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Washington Post Declares That Leftwing Matt Taibbi and Bari Weiss are "Conservative Journalists" In Order to Discredit Their Reporting to the Post's Neoliberal/Neofascist Audience

"Conservative" is now just an epithet flung by the Regime Left which only means "unwilling to reliably repeat and relay our propaganda."

The Washington Post was blasted for characterizing the center-left reporters behind the viral "Twitter Files" as being "conservative journalists."

Twitter owner Elon Musk tapped independent journalists Matt Taibbi and Bari Weiss to report on internal documents that have shed light on the company's controversial decisions like the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story and the deplatforming of former President Trump, as well as confirming long-held suspicions like the practice of shadow banning conservative users.

Taibbi, a Substack writer who used to be a scribe for Rolling Stone magazine, and Weiss, the editor of The Free Press and host of the "Honestly" podcast who used to be the opinion page editor at The New York Times, are widely seen as being left of center, although they have become thorns in the sides of traditional liberal outlets since going independent.

Despite their progressive views on a host of issues, the Post still labeled them "conservative."

But the Post still calls Jen Rubin and David French "conservatives," because that helps the left's propganda efforts.

In a report about Twitter dissolving its so-called "Trust & Safety Council" and the alleged harassment that former Twitter head of trust and safety Yoel Roth has been facing ever since Musk took over the company, the Post briefly mentioned Roth's role in the "Twitter Files" that has been reported by Taibbi and Weiss.

"As head of trust and safety at Twitter, Roth was involved in many of the platform's decisions about what posts to remove and what accounts to suspend. His communications with other Twitter officials have been posted in recent days as part of what Musk calls the Twitter Files, a series of tweets by conservative journalists Matt Taibbi and Bari Weiss," the Post wrote Monday evening.

Critics panned the "Democracy Dies in Darkness" paper for its "inaccurate" label for Taibbi and Weiss.

"Painfully embarrassing for the Post to print this," Grayzone host Aaron Maté reacted.

"Calling those two conservative is so patently ridiculous. Wacky WaPo gaslighting like crazy," Sky News host Rita Panahi exclaimed.

"It is rather insane that news publications are ascribing political ideologies to journalists that don't remotely fit because they want to discredit the journalism being done," conservative writer A.G. Hamilton tweeted.

"They are not interested in actually telling the truth. Everything is spin," National Review contributor Pradheep J. Shanker wrote.

"'Conservative' is just a smear to the MSM. It has no other meaning except to brand someone as unworthy. To signal to its readership that such a person can be safely ignored," journalist and author Abigail Shrier tweeted.

"We must understand how leftists and wokesters use words. They don't care that calling Taibbi and Weiss conservatives is a lie. WaPo uses that word to signal to its NPC readers that Taibbi/Weiss are the evil out-group and therefore everything they say should be ignored," The Federalist co-founder Sean Davis blasted the paper.

"There's almost a medieval quality to a lot of political discourse. If you don't agree with every mainstream liberal opinion, then you're a conservative? They see the world in black and white," The Intercept investigative reporter Lee Fang said.

Taibbi is used to it. The neoliberal/neofascist Regime has been deploying this tactic for a few years now:

"That is hilarious," Taibbi reacted to Fox News Digital, adding, "Anyone who steps out of line in any way is labeled conservative or pro-Trump now. It's automatic and predictable."

Glenn Greenwald has also been refashioned into a "conservative" by the neoliberal/neofascists, so he's seen the Regime's use of this deplatforming technique up close and personal.


Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald

The editorial policy of The Washington Post and many Brooklyn-based liberal digital sites is to falsely label people as "right-wing" as some weird punishment for deviating from liberal orthodoxy. All this term really means is: "one who sometimes rejects Dem Party orthodoxy."

There's not a single significant view Taibbi has changed since he was universally described as "left-wing" (same with @rustyrockets) [Russell Brand].

As for Bari Weiss: she is a fanatical supporter of US aid to Israel and the Israeli Govt generally, but so is almost all of the Dem Party.

These labels are now bereft of meaning. They're just in-group signifiers. It's sometimes necessary journalistically to refer to various political factions by the words most often used for them, but liberal journalists now weaponize these labels as vapid enforcement tools.

What this really is about is the inability of media liberals to understand the world except through the crudest and most primitive prism: you're either in their Dem-loyal clique, which means affirming every last one of their pieties, or you're a far-right fascist. Nothing else.

There are *millions* of Americans who twice voted for Obama, then voted for Trump.

Many (including @joerogan) said their 2 favorite candidates were Trump & Sanders.

Media liberals have no capacity to understand this, except to call all these people stupid and incoherent.

And this practice where major newspapers like the WPost publish something blatantly dishonest and false, then quietly remove it once there's backlash on Twitter or elsewhere, is pathetic. Own your mistakes. Add an Editor's Note explaining the change[.]

Sorry I'm fighting off what I hope is the last of this cold. I'm not capable of good work today.

Posted by: Ace at 05:00 PM




Comments

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2022 05:01 PM (uNylN)

2 Yeet!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2022 05:01 PM (ezvyW)

3 "Trust and Safety Council", even the names are dystopian.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 13, 2022 05:01 PM (eYoxG)

4 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:01 PM (Zz0t1)

5 anyone who counters this with facts and logic, like "but they're both liberals", doesn't understand where we're at

Posted by: Hands at December 13, 2022 05:02 PM (786Ro)

6 "Calling those two conservative is so patently ridiculous. Wacky WaPo gaslighting like crazy," Sky News host Rita Panahi exclaimed. "


Well they have to do something.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2022 05:02 PM (uNylN)

7 "Conservative" is like 'Fascist'...it means whatever Progressives hate.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 13, 2022 05:02 PM (xcxpd)

8 ** pushes chicken soup for Ace through USB port **

Posted by: Hands at December 13, 2022 05:03 PM (786Ro)

9 "Trust and Safety Council", even the names are dystopian.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

In keeping with the style guide of the Left, they always are the opposite of what they claim to be.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2022 05:03 PM (qoGsy)

10 I blame a lack of indigenous relational pedagogy.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 13, 2022 05:03 PM (PiwSw)

11
Taibbil, Greenwald and Naomi Wolf are heroes. I do not agree with many of their views but at least on both freedom of speech and not willing to just go along and be propagandists when they know what's what is what it's all about.

Good for them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2022 05:03 PM (x0n13)

12 Leftwing blogger Ace of Spades said...

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 13, 2022 05:03 PM (+hI+T)

13 So "ultra right wing fascist" is now defined as "anyone to the right of Mao or Stalin" I see at the WaPo.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at December 13, 2022 05:03 PM (Kbz60)

14
Yo!

There I did it

Posted by: Yo! now Ultra MAGA at December 13, 2022 05:03 PM (j0akQ)

15 Yeet!
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2022 05:01 PM (ezvyW)



That's hot.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:04 PM (Zz0t1)

16 All of the ads have gross stuff in them. It's very distracting.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2022 05:04 PM (iayUP)

17 And heal up, Chuy.

If you don't have your health, you don't have anything.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 13, 2022 05:04 PM (xcxpd)

18 Taibbil, Greenwald and Naomi Wolf are heroes. I do not agree with many of their views but at least on both freedom of speech and not willing to just go along and be propagandists when they know what's what is what it's all about.

Good for them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2022 05:03 PM (x0n13)



Dittos!

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:04 PM (O2Rtm)

19 MSM, such as WaPo.
They're not reporting the news.
They're marketing the Narrative.

Posted by: Hands at December 13, 2022 05:05 PM (786Ro)

20 But they *are* conservative journalists. So is Glenn Greenwald. There are various others.

It's the Left Pole problem. If you're standing on the north pole, *any* direction you walk is step. Take any step in any direction and you move south. So it is with contemporary politics. You're on the Left Pole, or you're Literally Hitler, and by extension a conservative.

Weiss and Taibbi and the rest *are* conservatives in the current structure, because they are not on the Left Pole. That the pole out from under them is irrelevant. Step off it or fail to keep up with its motion, and you're a fascist. Since all conservatives are also fascists, all fascists are conservative. It's nice and neat.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2022 05:05 PM (t0OGg)

21 16 All of the ads have gross stuff in them. It's very distracting.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2022 05:04 PM (iayUP)


Come to the bottom of the comments. We have cookies.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 13, 2022 05:05 PM (PiwSw)

22
David Horowitz was an actual red diaper commie. And now he's labeled as evil.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2022 05:05 PM (x0n13)

23 They are not of the body.

Posted by: Landroo at December 13, 2022 05:05 PM (iayUP)

24 "Trust and Safety Council", even the names are dystopian.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 13, 2022 05:01 PM (eYoxG)
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They can't be trusted. They are not at all about "safety" (whatever that means in this context). And more than likely there was only ONE person on the so-called "Council" who's opinion mattered--Roth.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2022 05:06 PM (YIVH2)

25 Feel better, Chuy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2022 05:06 PM (Wnv9h)

26 23 They are not of the body.
Posted by: Landroo at December 13, 2022 05:05 PM (iayUP)



"Beam us up, stat!!!!"

- - Crab Lice stranded on Mary Landrieux

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2022 05:06 PM (x0n13)

27 The Washington Post would have been welcomed in Joseph Stain's Soviet Union.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:07 PM (O2Rtm)

28 Actually was wondering if the Leftists were going to toss them out of the club when reading LI article

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 13, 2022 05:07 PM (xhxe8)

29 "Sorry I'm fighting off what I hope is the last of this cold. I'm not capable of good work today."

Really? You seem to have control of all your pitches? Even on an "off" day, you are still throwing strikes!

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at December 13, 2022 05:07 PM (7ZZOf)

30 But are they severely conservative?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 13, 2022 05:07 PM (z9kgd)

31 Come to the bottom of the comments. We have cookies.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 13, 2022 05:05 PM


Yes...come to the bottom...

Posted by: The Otters at December 13, 2022 05:07 PM (Wnv9h)

32 where major newspapers like the WPost publish something blatantly dishonest and false, then quietly remove it once there's backlash on Twitter or elsewhere, is pathetic. Own your mistakes.


"mistakes"

Posted by: Hands at December 13, 2022 05:08 PM (786Ro)

33 All of the ads have gross stuff

I've got the Sir Mix-a-Lot approved wardrobe series.

It's ReALLy distracting but I don't mind.

Posted by: DaveA at December 13, 2022 05:09 PM (FhXTo)

34 If you don't have your health, you don't have anything.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 13, 2022 05:04 PM


Listen to him, Chuy.

Posted by: The Six-fingered Man at December 13, 2022 05:09 PM (Wnv9h)

35 Joseph Stalins...sheesh. Although you could argue he was a stain on history.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:09 PM (O2Rtm)

36 Those radical conservative journalists are going to upset the applecart and RUIN EVERYTHING!!

Posted by: Bezos at December 13, 2022 05:09 PM (krQz2)

37 14
Yo!

There I did it
Posted by: Yo! now Ultra MAGA at December 13, 2022 05:03 PM (j0akQ)

Hell yeah

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 13, 2022 05:09 PM (xcxpd)

38 The help got uppity so they must be destroyed.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 13, 2022 05:10 PM (Z7Jj3)

39 Blue balls is often fatal. Reach out your hand to the man in need, 'cause that's what's it's there for.

Posted by: WaPo at December 13, 2022 05:10 PM (4I/2K)

40 @20 But they *are* conservative journalists. So is Glenn Greenwald. There are various others.

----

Only from the media's viewpoint. From the viewpoint of most of America - i.e. the group that WaPo claims to want as customers - they're left of center.

Posted by: junior at December 13, 2022 05:10 PM (PTw5h)

41 They are not of the body.
Posted by: Landroo at December 13, 2022 05:05 PM


+400 quatloos for the obscure Star Trek 1960s TV series reference.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2022 05:10 PM (uNylN)

42 All of the ads have gross stuff in them. It's very distracting.
Posted by: fd



How much did you order?

Posted by: Hands at December 13, 2022 05:10 PM (786Ro)

43 Just like that far right Andy Ngo character...

Posted by: steevy at December 13, 2022 05:10 PM (yezA1)

44
Matt Taibbi and Bari Weiss are, to put it bluntly, insufferable, annoying liberals.

But they're actually fighting to conserve some of our shared values, and that's more conservation than Conservative Inc. has ever done in their G-d cursed existence, may they all rot in hell.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 13, 2022 05:10 PM (oINRc)

45 Why do you think the "conservatives pounce, seize" line is so used?

Because they have trained their dogs to growl and bark "Lies! Lies! Lies!" at the tinkling bell "conservative."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 13, 2022 05:10 PM (z9kgd)

46 Only from the media's viewpoint. From the viewpoint of most of America - i.e. the group that WaPo claims to want as customers - they're left of center.
Posted by: junior at December 13, 2022 05:10 PM (PTw5h)
++++
Yes, of course. But for the Left Pole types, they are definitely not.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2022 05:10 PM (t0OGg)

47 https://youtu.be/FgLZMvnWxRU

RIP Adam.

Posted by: JEM at December 13, 2022 05:11 PM (8erNz)

48 by the time Elon is finished with all his reveals, these journalists will be known as ultra MAGA conservatives.

Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at December 13, 2022 05:11 PM (mnUzy)

49

Get better boss!

NyQuil is your friend.

Well, that and/or two 19-year-old Thai-French natural born vagina equipped masseuses hopped up on NyQuil...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at December 13, 2022 05:11 PM (UcCdF)

50 Sorry I'm fighting off what I hope is the last of this cold. I'm not capable of good work today.

Hey, Ace. Hope you get to feeling better. And I think you're doing good work today. Extra good, in fact

Posted by: Prime Sister at December 13, 2022 05:11 PM (tQL7r)

51 2d dose of poop juice!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 13, 2022 05:12 PM (atmen)

52 So "ultra right wing fascist" is now defined as "anyone to the right of Mao or Stalin" I see at the WaPo.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at December 13, 2022 05:03 PM (Kbz60)
---
"Fascism" is when you resist being forced to go with the crowd.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:12 PM (krQz2)

53 Critics panned the "Democracy Dies in Darkness" paper


You mean like with a pan? That would be terrible.

Posted by: Hands at December 13, 2022 05:12 PM (786Ro)

54 NyQuil is your friend.

Well, that and/or two 19-year-old Thai-French natural born vagina equipped masseuses hopped up on NyQuil...
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at December 13, 2022 05:11 PM (UcCdF)

*perks up, as much as NyQuil will let me*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 13, 2022 05:12 PM (V6f9+)

55 But they *are* conservative journalists. So is Glenn Greenwald. There are various others.

It's the Left Pole problem. If you're standing on the north pole, *any* direction you walk is step. Take any step in any direction and you move south. So it is with contemporary politics. You're on the Left Pole, or you're Literally Hitler, and by extension a conservative.

Weiss and Taibbi and the rest *are* conservatives in the current structure, because they are not on the Left Pole. That the pole out from under them is irrelevant. Step off it or fail to keep up with its motion, and you're a fascist. Since all conservatives are also fascists, all fascists are conservative. It's nice and neat.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2022 05:05 PM (t0OGg)

That's not a structure, it is just the skinsuit of one. They have no idea what Taibbi's views are, just that he is Not-US, and the label for that is Conservative. The US group contains a large faction of neoCon warmongers who on any spectrum would be to the right, but it doesn't matter because the US group is now in favor of foreign wars.

And if person X in the US group is expelled, they become THEM

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:12 PM (eoQWY)

56 2d dose of poop juice!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 13, 2022 05:12 PM (atmen)
---
It's not the 1st or 2nd dose that's bad.

It's the 20th that you strain to keep down.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:13 PM (krQz2)

57 2d dose of poop juice!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 13, 2022 05:12 PM (atmen)

Hold on tight to the doorframe for counter thrust.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 13, 2022 05:13 PM (4I/2K)

58 And if person X in the US group is expelled, they become THEM
Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:12 PM (eoQWY)
++++
Precisely. Expulsion doesn't even need to happen. They can just be left behind.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 13, 2022 05:13 PM (t0OGg)

59 If the left can redefine what a woman is, they can sure as heck redefine "right-wing."

Posted by: 29Victor at December 13, 2022 05:13 PM (L7tms)

60
*perks up, as much as NyQuil will let me*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 13, 2022 05:12 PM (V6f9+)



I can't do NyQuil more than once. If I drink it the 2nd night, I'm up all night. I'll get maybe 3 hrs of sleep, then it's restlessness for the rest of the night.

Damn tolerances.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:13 PM (Zz0t1)

61 Matt Taibbi and Bari Weiss are, to put it bluntly, insufferable, annoying liberals.

But they're actually fighting to conserve some of our shared values, and that's more conservation than Conservative Inc. has ever done in their G-d cursed existence, may they all rot in hell.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 13, 2022 05:10 PM (oINRc)

Enemy of my enemy.

And they seem to be sincere. These guys even were calling out the Trump Russiagate crap, and not because the liked Trump.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:14 PM (eoQWY)

62
The fact that a couple of borderline Communists are doing the work that our own, actual Communists won't do should give all of you pause.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 13, 2022 05:14 PM (oINRc)

63 Sniiff.... Reporters are now Fascists! Only Journalists are to be trusted!

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 13, 2022 05:14 PM (oHd/0)

64 And if person X in the US group is expelled, they become THEM
Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:12 PM (eoQWY)
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Indeed. And that's all it is. Being out of the group where the "wilderness" of the other is called "conservative".

However, that they want to *conserve* journalism is probably a case.

But it's kinda akin to the argument that everyone who doesn't want to legalize murder is "a stodgy old fogey who resists change".

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:15 PM (krQz2)

65 I can't do NyQuil more than once. If I drink it the 2nd night, I'm up all night. I'll get maybe 3 hrs of sleep, then it's restlessness for the rest of the night.

Damn tolerances.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:13 PM (Zz0t1)

Most sleep aids and pain killers keep me awake. When I had arm surgery I had to stop the exotic stuff so I could get some sleep after a day or so.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:15 PM (eoQWY)

66 51 2d dose of poop juice!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 13, 2022 05:12 PM (atmen)


Pro Tip. Be very near the bathroom.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 13, 2022 05:15 PM (PiwSw)

67 2d dose of poop juice!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 13, 2022 05:12 PM (atmen)



Did ya get ya some Boudreaux's Butt Paste? I'm told it does really well with the chaffing after you've been muddin' for a while.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:15 PM (Zz0t1)

68 46 Only from the media's viewpoint. From the viewpoint of most of America - i.e. the group that WaPo claims to want as customers - they're left of center.
Posted by: junior


I'm guessing that's why Elon put the finger on them.

Greenwald - not US based, controversial history. Farrow - shows glimpses of sanity but not reliablty honest. Miranda Devine would be good maybe too right for what he's trying to do.

Posted by: JEM at December 13, 2022 05:15 PM (8erNz)

69
Most sleep aids and pain killers keep me awake. When I had arm surgery I had to stop the exotic stuff so I could get some sleep after a day or so.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:15 PM (eoQWY)



Pain killers? Yeah....same thing there. They MAY stop the pain initially, then I'm up to 3x the dose to get a modicum of relief.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:16 PM (Zz0t1)

70 Is there an HQ Trust and Safety Council? If not, why not?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 13, 2022 05:16 PM (CgtKh)

71 >>2d dose of poop juice!

Hold on loosely
But don't let it go
If you cling too tightly
You're gonna lose control

Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2022 05:17 PM (ZLI7S)

72 If the left can redefine what a woman is, they can sure as heck redefine "right-wing."
Posted by: 29Victor at December 13, 2022 05:13 PM (L7tms)
---
They redefine every word. It doesn't necessarily say they "can".

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:17 PM (krQz2)

73 Is there an HQ Trust and Safety Council? If not, why not?
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 13, 2022 05:16 PM (CgtKh)



Cuz Ace ain't no fag.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:17 PM (Zz0t1)

74 The Washington Post would have been welcomed in Joseph Stain's Soviet Union.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:07 PM (O2Rtm)

I thought it was the Times that backed Stalin's murder of farmers and military types in the 1930.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:17 PM (eoQWY)

75 " Is there an HQ Trust and Safety Council?"

It's crowdsourced.

Posted by: Landroo at December 13, 2022 05:17 PM (iayUP)

76 ** pushes chicken soup for Ace through USB port **
Posted by: Hands at December 13, 2022 05:03 PM (786Ro)
_________________

**pushes scotch for Ace through USB port**

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2022 05:17 PM (YqDXo)

77 Speaking of the ads...do the gums really go under the teeth like that?

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2022 05:17 PM (t4fCu)

78 They MAY stop the pain initially, then I'm up to 3x the dose to get a modicum of relief.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:16 PM (Zz0t1)


I think you mean emoticon of relief.

Posted by: Juggs McCain at December 13, 2022 05:18 PM (h5TKJ)

79 off dead ol sock

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2022 05:18 PM (iayUP)

80 I'm Ace-old-enough-to-'member joking on Greenwald with Patterico (of all people, now) over his sockpuppetry.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at December 13, 2022 05:19 PM (WMA72)

81 30 But are they severely conservative?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 13, 2022 05:07 PM (z9kgd)
_____________

They're out of the mainstream!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2022 05:19 PM (YqDXo)

82 Yes...come to the bottom...


mmmmmmmm... yez

Posted by: Shep! at December 13, 2022 05:19 PM (Vu7A1)

83 Should have given them to Metokur , Malkin, SomeBitchIKnow (L).
Who is this Bari Weiss creature and that cross dresser Talibi? Fail to the top
Seriously, Malkin should have led a team she picked.

Posted by: It's over at December 13, 2022 05:21 PM (YlPX8)

84 Makes sense to me, since true conservatives are now labeled terrorists, why can't center-left be the new conservatives?

Posted by: scruboak at December 13, 2022 05:21 PM (jjH9L)

85 Ace of Spades

The Prostate Zone

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2022 05:21 PM (t4fCu)

86 I'm Ace-old-enough-to-'member joking on Greenwald with Patterico (of all people, now) over his sockpuppetry.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at December 13, 2022 05:19 PM (WMA72)

Now sockpuppets vote out all our candidates.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:21 PM (eoQWY)

87 you underestimate the power of our baseless name calling

Posted by: MSM at December 13, 2022 05:21 PM (us2H3)

88 I can't do NyQuil more than once. If I drink it the 2nd night, I'm up all night. I'll get maybe 3 hrs of sleep, then it's restlessness for the rest of the night.

Damn tolerances.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:13 PM (Zz0t1)
_____________

Check to make sure nothing you take includes pseudoephedrine. If I take that I'd need a half dozen double espressos to chill out again, a common reaction.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2022 05:22 PM (YqDXo)

89 Greenwald's no hero, but he's been consistent through the years as a media critic. "Institutioal media is full of shit and serves power". Gotta give him that.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 13, 2022 05:22 PM (CgtKh)

90 I thought it was the Times that backed Stalin's murder of farmers and military types in the 1930.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:17 PM (eoQWY)



It was and their reporter...er, um...liar, Joseph Duranty won the Pulitzer for his lies. But there was always room for more in the Soviet Union. I mean they had not only Pravda but TASS and Izvestia as well. So the WP would have been welcome too, as soul mates.


Fuck the WP and Bezos its owner. If the mob came for his riches and his head, I would cheer them on.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:22 PM (O2Rtm)

91 Everything for the State nothing against the State
Bye bye Matt, Bari was nice seeing you
Leftists everywhere

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2022 05:23 PM (xhxe8)

92 Maybe it was Walter Duranty. I don't remember...

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:23 PM (O2Rtm)

93 Should have given them to Metokur , Malkin, SomeBitchIKnow (L).
Who is this Bari Weiss creature and that cross dresser Talibi? Fail to the top
Seriously, Malkin should have led a team she picked.
Posted by: It's over at December 13, 2022 05:21 PM (YlPX

I imagine giving it to leftist types gives it credibility to those who are not wholly lost to the Borg, and nobody else will win them over.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:23 PM (eoQWY)

94 Everything is fake and an op.

Posted by: The Christmas Donkey at December 13, 2022 05:23 PM (yQpMk)

95 Um, how about just posting the documents, if needed with some mechanical/technical annotations to explain who's who/what's what, and let the world figure it out?

Why the need for gatekeepers?

There isn't any. Many recent episodes have shown there is an abundance of independent (often just people doing it in their spare time) observers and analysts, most of them with a lot more heft than any "journalist", "progressive" (lol) or "conservative".

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2022 05:24 PM (OTzUX)

96 If the COVID don't get you the gaslighting will.

Posted by: Golfman at December 13, 2022 05:24 PM (BLVc0)

97 Ace with a cold >anyone or anything at the propaganda ministries. Feel better Ace

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2022 05:24 PM (+JqVd)

98 Everything is fake and an op.

Posted by: The Christmas Donkey at December 13, 2022 05:23 PM (yQpMk)
---
And phony and crumby!

Posted by: Holden Caufield at December 13, 2022 05:24 PM (krQz2)

99 71 >>2d dose of poop juice!

Hold on loosely
But don't let it go
If you cling too tightly
You're gonna lose control
Posted by: JackStraw


I just UPSed my crap to a colon-screening outfit earlier...

Posted by: JEM at December 13, 2022 05:24 PM (8erNz)

100 Um, how about just posting the documents, if needed with some mechanical/technical annotations to explain who's who/what's what, and let the world figure it out?

Why the need for gatekeepers?

There isn't any. Many recent episodes have shown there is an abundance of independent (often just people doing it in their spare time) observers and analysts, most of them with a lot more heft than any "journalist", "progressive" (lol) or "conservative".
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2022 05:24 PM (OTzUX)

he might, but most need someone to summarize the pages on pages of crap in the records.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:25 PM (eoQWY)

101
Fuck the WP and Bezos its owner. If the mob came for his riches and his head, I would cheer them on.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:22 PM (O2Rtm)



You do have to give the man props. I mean, he put William Shatner on a cock rocket and launched him into the outer atmosphere.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:25 PM (Zz0t1)

102 Maybe it was Walter Duranty. I don't remember...
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:23 PM (O2Rtm)

yeah it was Duranty.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:25 PM (eoQWY)

103 If you don't have your health, you don't have anything.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 13, 2022 05:04 PM (xcxpd)


And this chair. If you don't have your health and this chair you don't have anything.

And this ashtray. All you need is your health, this chair, and this ashtray. And this paddle ball game.

Posted by: Navin Johnson at December 13, 2022 05:25 PM (guGkK)

104 Umm anyone know where I can get me some trimmed foreskin?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at December 13, 2022 05:26 PM (u4CEu)

105 It seems like there are a few cracks breaking in the ice the left is standing on.

Each day just a tiny bit more truth seeps out and they scream louder like a toddler throwing a tantrum at the supermarket.

Posted by: RM at December 13, 2022 05:26 PM (0eYOS)

106 There is also a class issue here.

Genuinely popular journalists, like Taibbi, Greenwald, and Weiss, can make a good living selling subscriptions on Substack - at $50/year, you only need 2,000 subscribers to gross $100,000 a year.

Ordinary "journalists" working at the Washington Post have no ability to get people to directly pay for their work, and are doubtless burning with envy and resentment directed at the people who can.

Speaking of which, I wonder how many people have signed up for Taylor Lorenz's Substack?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2022 05:26 PM (KCOCK)

107 "Conservative" is the go-to pejorative used by the left nowadays.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2022 05:27 PM (Q4IgG)

108 Soon they will be called revanchist, dissident, and be accused of anti-American agitation and propaganda.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2022 05:27 PM (XIJ/X)

109
Speaking of which, I wonder how many people have signed up for Taylor Lorenz's Substack?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2022 05:26 PM (KCOCK)



Knitting with Grandma?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:27 PM (Zz0t1)

110 104 Umm anyone know where I can get me some trimmed foreskin?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger


You mean your own? search 'mohel'.

Someone else's? check ebay I guess.

Posted by: JEM at December 13, 2022 05:27 PM (8erNz)

111 Musk saw Tabbi at a debate and was impressed.
Command of facts, skill, honesty, and he won the debate. Conjuring that is was in Canadia.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 13, 2022 05:27 PM (d4edd)

112 There is also a class issue here.

Genuinely popular journalists, like Taibbi, Greenwald, and Weiss, can make a good living selling subscriptions on Substack - at $50/year, you only need 2,000 subscribers to gross $100,000 a year.

Ordinary "journalists" working at the Washington Post have no ability to get people to directly pay for their work, and are doubtless burning with envy and resentment directed at the people who can.

Speaking of which, I wonder how many people have signed up for Taylor Lorenz's Substack?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2022 05:26 PM (KCOCK)

Print is Dead.

Elon from Ghostbusters.

We already don't need or care about what paper if any a Journo is on if they enough good. These days we are a mm away from being on a paper being a BAD thing.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:28 PM (eoQWY)

113 Umm anyone know where I can get me some trimmed foreskin?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at December 13, 2022 05:26 PM (u4CEu)
-----------
I can make you a deal...

Posted by: David, son of Jesse at December 13, 2022 05:28 PM (AuTCi)

114 "Conservative" is the go-to pejorative used by the left nowadays.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2022 05:27 PM (Q4IgG)
---
While they simultaneously accuse us of trying to uproot the American system and maintain systemic racism in the system.

There's a reason nobody on the left should be trusted to use words.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:28 PM (krQz2)

115 Should have given them to Metokur , Malkin, SomeBitchIKnow (L).
Who is this Bari Weiss creature and that cross dresser Talibi? Fail to the top
Seriously, Malkin should have led a team she picked.
Posted by: It's over at December 13, 2022 05:21 PM (YlPX

I imagine giving it to leftist types gives it credibility to those who are not wholly lost to the Borg, and nobody else will win them over.
Posted by: Oldcat

Many people on the Right don't know or trust Matt Talibi and Bari Weiss.
Best way with this stuff is to drop it on the chans and let anons crowdsource the shit to get it out there.

Posted by: It's over at December 13, 2022 05:28 PM (YlPX8)

116 It seems like there are a few cracks breaking in the ice the left is standing on.

Each day just a tiny bit more truth seeps out and they scream louder like a toddler throwing a tantrum at the supermarket.

Posted by: RM at December 13, 2022 05:26 PM


The pendulum always swings back. It may seem to take forever but it always swings back.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2022 05:28 PM (uNylN)

117 From BBC News:
Brazil's left-wing president elect Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, who recently beat far-right incumbent Jair Bolsonaro in his country's presidential election, got emotional during a ceremony ratifying his election victory.
After a divisive campaign which saw two bitter rivals on opposite sides of the political spectrum go head to head, Lula won 50.9% of the votes.

Jair gets "far-right" label and Lula only gets "left-wing" label, and yet the very next sentence they are on the opposite sides of the political spectrum. The dishonesty in labeling couldn't be any more transparent.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 13, 2022 05:29 PM (fs1hN)

118
... who used to be a scribe for Rolling Stone magazine

I have a relative (by marriage) who writes for Rolling Stoned. A sadder example of masculinity is not to be found on this planet.

The only thing 'toxic' about his masculinity is the scent of piles of unwashed underwear covering ever inch of his habitat.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 13, 2022 05:29 PM (enJYY)

119 ""Conservative" is now just an epithet"

What does it even mean anymore? I'd settle for "anti-woke."

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at December 13, 2022 05:29 PM (24fqN)

120 Soon they will be called revanchist, dissident, and be accused of anti-American agitation and propaganda.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2022 05:27 PM (XIJ/X)

wreckers, Cosmopolites. The Soviets did have the best names for those they hated.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:29 PM (eoQWY)

121 [H]ow many people have signed up for Taylor Lorenz's Substack?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2022 05:26 PM (KCOCK)
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Bots are deadbeats.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:29 PM (krQz2)

122 91 Everything for the State nothing against the State
Bye bye Matt, Bari was nice seeing you
Leftists everywhere
Posted by: Skip
----------------------

Have they been replaced?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 13, 2022 05:30 PM (d4edd)

123 I just UPSed my crap to a colon-screening outfit earlier...
Posted by: JEM


I hope they did some crash testing. Like those fuel-rod casks.

Posted by: DaveA at December 13, 2022 05:31 PM (FhXTo)

124 Many people on the Right don't know or trust Matt Talibi and Bari Weiss.
Best way with this stuff is to drop it on the chans and let anons crowdsource the shit to get it out there.
Posted by: It's over at December 13, 2022 05:28 PM (YlPX

Send Elon a note and maybe he will include you on the data dump.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:31 PM (eoQWY)

125
Print is Dead.

Elon from Ghostbusters.

We already don't need or care about what paper if any a Journo is on if they enough good. These days we are a mm away from being on a paper being a BAD thing.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:28 PM (eoQWY)



Elon?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:31 PM (Zz0t1)

126 Watched Nancy Mace bitch slap a trans activist in congressional hrg with her own tweets calling for violence against SC justices. Commenters on Twitter actually argued that there was a Roman emperor who was a tranny. Yup , Elogabalus was a tranny and ended up with his head cut off and body thrown in the Tiber. Works for me

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2022 05:32 PM (+JqVd)

127 Many people on the Right don't know or trust Matt Talibi and Bari Weiss.
Best way with this stuff is to drop it on the chans and let anons crowdsource the shit to get it out there.
Posted by: It's over at December 13, 2022 05:28 PM (YlPX

But we trust Elon more or less, so it isn't that useful to placate us.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:32 PM (eoQWY)

128 at $50/year, you only need 2,000 subscribers to gross $100,000 a year.

According to a source I just looked at, Taibbi and Greenwald each have tens of thousands of subscribers to their Substacks.

OTOH, the Bulwark and the Dispatch do well too:

Here are top the 5 paid political newsletters on Substack:

Letters from an American Tens of thousands of subscribers, $5/month
The Dispatch Tens of thousands of subscribers, $10/month
TK News by Matt Taibbi Tens of thousands of subscribers, $5/month
Bulwark+ Tens of thousands of subscribers, $10/month
Glenn Greenwald Tens of thousands of subscribers, $5/month

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2022 05:32 PM (KCOCK)

129 Elon?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:31 PM (Zz0t1)
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Forget it, he's on a roll.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:32 PM (krQz2)

130 If you don't have your health, you don't have anything.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 13, 2022 05:04 PM (xcxpd)

And this chair. If you don't have your health and this chair you don't have anything.

And this ashtray. All you need is your health, this chair, and this ashtray. And this paddle ball game.
Posted by: Navin Johnson at December 13, 2022 05:25 PM (guGkK)

And this fried chicken. Oh yeah, and this tv.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2022 05:32 PM (BdMk6)

131 Umm anyone know where I can get me some trimmed foreskin?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at December 13, 2022 05:26 PM


How much do you need, a mountain or a mo' hlll?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 13, 2022 05:32 PM (a3Q+t)

132 Elon?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:31 PM (Zz0t1)

Egon

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:32 PM (eoQWY)

133 "I'm not capable of good work today."

Somebody's been impersonating you today and slipping in a whole bunch of good stuff.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at December 13, 2022 05:33 PM (24fqN)

134 They’re not fascists, neo or otherwise. They’re communists.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at December 13, 2022 05:33 PM (NlnAn)

135 "Many people on the Right don't know or trust Matt Talibi and Bari Weiss."

Conservative Treehouse / The Last Refuge has little good to say about this.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at December 13, 2022 05:34 PM (24fqN)

136 >>> 134 They’re not fascists, neo or otherwise. They’re communists.
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at December 13, 2022 05:33 PM (NlnAn)

Only good for one thing.

Posted by: Zombie Pinochet at December 13, 2022 05:34 PM (llON8)

137 I have a relative (by marriage) who writes for Rolling Stoned. A sadder example of masculinity is not to be found on this planet.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 13, 2022 05:29 PM


So, doucheknot?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 13, 2022 05:35 PM (a3Q+t)

138 Soon they will be called revanchist, dissident, and be accused of anti-American agitation and propaganda.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2022 05:27 PM (XIJ/X)



Or the dreaded...Counter Revolutionary.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:35 PM (O2Rtm)

139 Many people on the Right don't know or trust Matt Talibi and Bari Weiss.

Taibbi was also one of the first people to call bullshit on the Steele Dossier. He lived in Moscow for a decade, speaks and writes Russian, and knows how the Russian government operates.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2022 05:35 PM (KCOCK)

140 Yup , Elogabalus was a tranny and ended up with his head cut off and body thrown in the Tiber. Works for me
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2022 05:32 PM (+JqVd)
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I can quote in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus.

Posted by: MG Stanley at December 13, 2022 05:35 PM (AuTCi)

141 114 "Conservative" is the go-to pejorative used by the left nowadays.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Good thing Im a racist anti-Semite troonphobic Nazi because Im White. I just own it. It's the only way to win. It renders their words meaningless and IRL when some Normie White calls you something, when you laugh and blow it off as you say "if you aay so faggot", other Whites around and Blacks will laugh at the name caller as well.
It's literally meaningless at this point.

Sometimes I go balls deep and claim "X minorities" bones are magic and I bury them under the house for good luck (Ancient Borderer custom).

Posted by: It's over at December 13, 2022 05:36 PM (YlPX8)

142 Ace is correct to start calling this merged power of state and industry a fascist hivemind.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 13, 2022 05:36 PM (MLrvz)

143 wreckers, Cosmopolites. The Soviets did have the best names for those they hated.
Posted by: Oldcat
_____

I always liked 'running dogs'. Says more about the commies than their enemies, who doesn't love dogs?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 13, 2022 05:36 PM (fs1hN)

144 Top four cold/flu treatments:

LSD

Dolly Gee

DDT

A Wowie

Posted by: The Ramones at December 13, 2022 05:36 PM (dXilO)

145 But we trust Elon more or less, so it isn't that useful to placate us.
Posted by: Oldcat


Funny, because Elon's not particularly right.

He's just like a few others, recognizing the left is herding everyone else off a cliff.

Posted on pixy's morning about Sh0e. And not just 'cause I popped when she mentioned wearing a bondage harness

There are people we can find common ground with and those we can't. Unfortunately, too much of what's in our government now is the latter.

Posted by: JEM at December 13, 2022 05:36 PM (8erNz)

146
How much do you need, a mountain or a mo' hlll?
Posted by: Duncanthrax


Mohel Hill?

Then again, if you need a mountain, just rub it for a little bit.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 13, 2022 05:36 PM (n+4am)

147 I always liked 'running dogs'. Says more about the commies than their enemies, who doesn't love dogs?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 13, 2022 05:36 PM (fs1hN)
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"Capitalist roader" is another good one.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 13, 2022 05:37 PM (AuTCi)

148 And this chair. If you don't have your health and this chair you don't have anything.

I thought the chair was against the wall?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 13, 2022 05:38 PM (a3Q+t)

149 The pendulum always swings back. It may seem to take forever but it always swings back.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2022 05:28 PM (uNylN)



It all ends in tears.

Posted by: The Christmas Donkey at December 13, 2022 05:38 PM (yQpMk)

150
Mohel Hill?

Then again, if you need a mountain, just rub it for a little bit.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 13, 2022 05:36 PM (n+4am)


Mohel Hill > Jemele Hill

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 05:38 PM (Zz0t1)

151
They’re not fascists, neo or otherwise. They’re communists.
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger


Commie cocksuckers.

Because aside from it's actual definition, the word cocksucker just SOUNDS dirty and sordid.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 13, 2022 05:39 PM (n+4am)

152 Imagine telling some leftwing activist in 2002 that Taibbi, Greenwald, and Weiss are officially labeled "conservative" for reporting things the government doesn't want them to.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 13, 2022 05:39 PM (lc5cP)

153 Ace is correct to start calling this merged power of state and industry a fascist hivemind.


That merger is the classic, textbook definition of fascism. The only thing they're missing is the German accent.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:39 PM (O2Rtm)

154 Well all we're really getting is details for the most part, the suppression of actual info or reasonable analysis has been obvious and known all along. So I probably wouldn't bother to look into them anyway, but it's pretty pre-1990s to not just post the documents. Let people see them. There will be a dozens of people, most of them smarter or with more relevant direct experience or knowledge than any "journalist", to do the scut work of context and annotation.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2022 05:39 PM (OTzUX)

155 People might not trust Taibbi or Weiss , but Musk owns the company and he can put it out how he wants. Taibbi and Greenwald are consistent in their contempt for the corporate media and Weiss has an axe to grind against her former employer NYT. Those factors will keep them from shading the truth.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2022 05:39 PM (+JqVd)

156 I'm still a reactionary.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 13, 2022 05:39 PM (yQpMk)

157 That merger is the classic, textbook definition of fascism. The only thing they're missing is the German accent.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:39 PM (O2Rtm)

Or italian.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:39 PM (eoQWY)

158 Musk saw Tabbi at a debate and was impressed.
Command of facts, skill, honesty, and he won the debate. Conjuring that is was in Canadia.
---------------
The Munk Debates in Toronto.
NOVEMBER 30, 2022

Mainstream Media: Be it resolved, don't trust mainstream media.

PRO
Douglas Murray; Matt Taibbi

CON
Malcolm Gladwell; Michelle Goldberg

RESULT
PRO wins with a 39% vote gain. [andy: the biggest audience swing in the debates' history]

https://munkdebates.com/
debates/mainstream-media

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 13, 2022 05:40 PM (Vwz3I)

159 They’re not fascists, neo or otherwise. They’re communists.
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at December 13, 2022 05:33 PM (NlnAn)
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I see people get this confused all the time. They have more adherence to the tenets of fascism than they do to a communal structure where there is no hierarchy of people.

Lenin knew that the USSR was not a commune, instead he specifically said that "Communism" was aspirational and an indication that they wanted to get to the international commune in Marx (however Stalin did in their most ardent internationalist Trotsky).

They adhere closer to: EISNOSNAS: Everything In the State; Nothing Outside of the State; Nothing Against the State.

And every Marxist revolution has avoided losing the power of the national unit to merge into an established quasi-Marxist regime.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:40 PM (krQz2)

160 Funny, because Elon's not particularly right.

He's just like a few others, recognizing the left is herding everyone else off a cliff.


According to the FNM, if you believe the things that leftwing President running for re-election Obama claimed to believe in 2012 you are now a "far rightwing NAZI extremist".

Its yet another thing the left got from 1984 (which is supposed to be a warning not a guide book)

Posted by: 18-1 at December 13, 2022 05:40 PM (lc5cP)

161 You know, if 20 years ago someone told me that I would be virtually holding the hand of a virtual stranger while they prepped for a colonoscopy, I would given them a quizzical look.

Posted by: Javems at December 13, 2022 05:40 PM (AmoqO)

162 "Conservative" is the new "fascist"?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 13, 2022 05:40 PM (KSNKu)

163 I actually came to like Taibbi after I read his book "Vampire Squid".
It was well done and named all the names of those who set up the financial crash of '08.

Posted by: Gunslinger at December 13, 2022 05:41 PM (R2gO3)

164
That merger is the classic, textbook definition of fascism. The only thing they're missing is the German accent.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above!


And the bitchin' Hugo Boss uniforms. Say what you will about the Nazis, but they were natty as hell.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 13, 2022 05:41 PM (n+4am)

165 The pendulum always swings back. It may seem to take forever but it always swings back.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2022 05:28 PM (uNylN)



Call me a cynic but I think it is stuck in the far left-hand position (and has been for quite a while) and will need some pretty powerful kinetic force to get it to swing again.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:41 PM (O2Rtm)

166 146 How much do you need, a mountain or a mo' hlll?
Posted by: Duncanthrax


There once was a lady from Wohl's Hill
Who happened to sit on a mole hill
The resident mole
Popped his head up her hole
The lady's alright but the mole's ill

(this is a very old one)

Play me my song...here it comes again...

Posted by: JEM at December 13, 2022 05:41 PM (8erNz)

167 Taibbi was also one of the first people to call bullshit on the Steele Dossier. He lived in Moscow for a decade, speaks and writes Russian, and knows how the Russian government operates.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2022 05:35 PM (KCOCK)
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Ah. So a Putin Stooge, just like Tucker!

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:42 PM (krQz2)

168 They’re not fascists, neo or otherwise. They’re communists.
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger


Commie cocksuckers.

Because aside from it's actual definition, the word cocksucker just SOUNDS dirty and sordid.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 13, 2022 05:39 PM (n+4am)

It's all the regressive "k" sounds.

Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at December 13, 2022 05:42 PM (4I/2K)

169 Mussolini started off as an Italian socialist. He broke with the rest of the Italian socialists over whether you could support your nation in WWI. Hence "national socialist" vs "international socialism"

While there are certainly differences in the rule of the various types of socialist regimes, from the perspective of a free living American there is no difference.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 13, 2022 05:42 PM (lc5cP)

170
“Simply put, your ability to see what can be, unburdened by what has been.”
-- Kamala Harris (D)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 13, 2022 05:42 PM (a3Q+t)

171 Recognizing the "Steele dossier" as ridiculous nonsense, comical, required an IQ of 85 and a nano-quantity of real world experience.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2022 05:43 PM (OTzUX)

172 Cosmopolites. The Soviets did have the best names for those they hated.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:29 PM (eoQWY)

Ooh! I like that one!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2022 05:43 PM (XIJ/X)

173 Recognizing the "Steele dossier" as ridiculous nonsense, comical, required an IQ of 85 and a nano-quantity of real world experience.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2022 05:43 PM (OTzUX)
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And yet, this wasn't the widespread reaction of his "tribe" in media.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:44 PM (krQz2)

174 >Genuinely popular journalists, like Taibbi, Greenwald, and Weiss, can make a good living selling subscriptions on Substack

Greenwald's 'System Update' premiered on Rumble last night. 20K+ were streaming it. He was making a little bank last night. You can see when someone donates and how much. He had a questions and answers discussion after SU that is limited to subscribers. I am curious how that went. Good for these guys

Posted by: Fool Otto at December 13, 2022 05:44 PM (DB16e)

175 It's also simply the Overton Window, Ace. Which is why I'm sure Bill Maher is considered a right-wing whacko by the same gatekeepers.

It's moving pretty fast lately.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 13, 2022 05:44 PM (YJwUM)

176 Recognizing the "Steele dossier" as ridiculous nonsense, comical, required an IQ of 85 and a nano-quantity of real world experience.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2022 05:43 PM (OTzUX)

So that leaves out the media. And the uniparty.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:44 PM (eoQWY)

177 It just snowed 3 more inches and dropped to 17 deg F. It was like the Iditarod to get to the liquor store.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 13, 2022 05:44 PM (geVLo)

178 Taibbi was also one of the first people to call bullshit on the Steele Dossier. He lived in Moscow for a decade, speaks and writes Russian, and knows how the Russian government operates.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2022 05:35 PM (KCOCK)
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Ah. So a Putin Stooge, just like Tucker!
Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:42 PM (krQz2)

Oh! A wise guy! Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

Posted by: Curly Howard at December 13, 2022 05:44 PM (4I/2K)

179
To put this in terms WaPo would understand -
WaPo is to journalism as fish are to bicycles

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 13, 2022 05:44 PM (pNxlR)

180 “Simply put, your ability to see what can be, unburdened by what has been.”
-- Kamala Harris (D)
Posted by: Duncanthrax


"WTF?" - JEM (Roundhead)

Posted by: JEM at December 13, 2022 05:45 PM (8erNz)

181 Cosmopolites. The Soviets did have the best names for those they hated.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:29 PM (eoQWY)

Ooh! I like that one!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2022 05:43 PM (XIJ/X)

I think that translated to "Jews" in practice.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:45 PM (eoQWY)

182 Montana Law That Bars COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates In Health Care Settings Is Unconstitutional: Judge

Time to see how brave the governor of Montana is.

Announce publicly that anyone that enforces the mandate in Montana will be arrested and see how it plays out.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 13, 2022 05:45 PM (lc5cP)

183 "So that leaves out the media. And the uniparty."

And a significant portion of the American people, and most of the Beltway.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2022 05:46 PM (OTzUX)

184 Fascists are anti-International Banking and Finance . Commies are pro Central Banks and International-Banking and Finance.

They are Bolsheviks and Trotskyites. They aren't Fascists. They are just Globalist Totalitarians who have derived their power through several centuries of usury through International-Banking and Finance and have been subverting institutions here and the rest of Europe beginning in the late 1800's.

Posted by: It's over at December 13, 2022 05:46 PM (YlPX8)

185 “Simply put, your ability to see what can be, unburdened by what has been.”
-- Kamala Harris (D)
Posted by: Duncanthrax

"WTF?" - JEM (Roundhead)
Posted by: JEM at December 13, 2022 05:45 PM (8erNz)

If she can see what had been, she could make bank in archaeology

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:46 PM (eoQWY)

186 Can't find the quote but when Musk started this venture he put out an ad for lawyers saying something like

I don't want DC shoe shiners
I want sharks
Who did you kill
Send me your resume.



Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 13, 2022 05:46 PM (d4edd)

187 While there are certainly differences in the rule of the various types of socialist regimes, from the perspective of a free living American there is no difference.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 13, 2022 05:42 PM (lc5cP)
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There is also the fact that in every case the stage called "The Dictatorship of the Proletariat" looked a lot like a normal dictatorship with collectivistic spirit which has aped fascism pretty closely.

Also, no Marxist-inspired state has broken out of this "stage" of government to be anything more than a "nation" itself with a slightly different bent.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:47 PM (krQz2)

188 Hitler has to be laughing his ass off that almost everyone is literally him

Posted by: x at December 13, 2022 05:47 PM (qHzv4)

189 CBD, the spicy version is "rootless cosmopolites", which refers to you know who.

"bezkoriniye kosmopoliti"

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2022 05:47 PM (OTzUX)

190 I am Legion.

Posted by: A. Hitler at December 13, 2022 05:48 PM (yQpMk)

191 Call me a cynic but I think it is stuck in the far left-hand position (and has been for quite a while) and will need some pretty powerful kinetic force to get it to swing again.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 13, 2022 05:41 PM (O2Rtm)

We were talking about nuclear fusion earlier. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2022 05:48 PM (BdMk6)

192 177 It just snowed 3 more inches and dropped to 17 deg F. It was like the Iditarod to get to the liquor store.
Posted by: Dr. Bone


If my Quigley van weren't in serious deferred maintenance mode I might like that. It's been below freezing overnight routinely here in the SF Peninsula but no snow, I almost miss it...

Posted by: JEM at December 13, 2022 05:48 PM (8erNz)

193 Dear New York Times,

Which Pulitzer Prize do you consider more shameful? Your 1932 award to Walter Duranty for covering up the Genocidal Holodomor and killing of 3 Million Ukrainians by Josef Stalin; or your 2018 award for covering "Russian Collusion" which was a story fabricated by the Corrupt FBI and spoon fed to your willing and gullible reporters?

Which one? Or Both? Why haven't the Sulzbergers repudiated these awards for the shameful prevarications you published in your paper?

Posted by: rd at December 13, 2022 05:48 PM (shoLh)

194 Hitler has to be laughing his ass off that almost everyone is literally him
Posted by: x at December 13, 2022 05:47 PM (qHzv4)

he did say his reich would last 1000 years. Well its starting century 2 in a little bit.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:49 PM (eoQWY)

195 I'm totally ostrichsized

Posted by: REDACTED at December 13, 2022 05:50 PM (us2H3)

196

One good thing you can say about Hitler, he's the guy that killed Hitler!

Posted by: Wait, What... at December 13, 2022 05:50 PM (UcCdF)

197
"Simply put, your ability to see what can be, unburdened by what has been.”
-- Kamala Harris (D)
Posted by: Duncanthrax


Oh, yeah, Kamala knows a lot about "unburdening". An awful lot ... heh, heh!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 13, 2022 05:50 PM (pNxlR)

198 175 It's also simply the Overton Window, Ace. Which is why I'm sure Bill Maher is considered a right-wing whacko by the same gatekeepers.

It's moving pretty fast lately.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus


The Overton French Door?

It's moving on some issues but not others.

Posted by: JEM at December 13, 2022 05:50 PM (8erNz)

199 Hitler has to be laughing his ass off that almost everyone is literally him
Posted by: x at December 13, 2022 05:47 PM (qHzv4)
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Nah, it's kind of like Gentile and Mussolini being proved right about the relative stability of State vs. yearnings of international communes and the "melting away of The State".

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:50 PM (krQz2)

200 Which one? Or Both? Why haven't the Sulzbergers repudiated these awards for the shameful prevarications you published in your paper?
Posted by: rd at December 13, 2022 05:48 PM (shoLh)

Don't think the Black Sox in 1919 gave back the World Series Title.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:51 PM (eoQWY)

201 I imagine giving it to leftist types gives it credibility to those who are not wholly lost to the Borg, and nobody else will win them over.
Posted by: Oldcat

That was the idea anyway. Whoopsie. Who could possibly have foreseen that "winning them over" wasn't actually possible?

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 13, 2022 05:51 PM (YJwUM)

202 181 Cosmopolites. The Soviets did have the best names for those they hated.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:29 PM (eoQWY)

Ooh! I like that one!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2022 05:43 PM (XIJ/X)

I think that translated to "Jews" in practice.


not "people that politely read cosmo"?

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda and totally not chatgpt at December 13, 2022 05:51 PM (oY6Yp)

203 @200...uh,

Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 13, 2022 05:51 PM (CgtKh)

204 192 177 It just snowed 3 more inches and dropped to 17 deg F. It was like the Iditarod to get to the liquor store.
Posted by: Dr. Bone

If my Quigley van weren't in serious deferred maintenance mode I might like that. It's been below freezing overnight routinely here in the SF Peninsula but no snow, I almost miss it...
Posted by: JEM

_______________

34F and Rain so far here in the Twin Cities. More Rain tomorrow, turning to 2-4 inches of Snow by Friday.

Uggh!

Posted by: rd at December 13, 2022 05:52 PM (shoLh)

205 That was the idea anyway. Whoopsie. Who could possibly have foreseen that "winning them over" wasn't actually possible?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 13, 2022 05:51 PM (YJwUM)

he isn't after the acolytes. Its everyone else.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:52 PM (eoQWY)

206 20th century "Communists": The Stateless Commune of Equals is in the mail.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:52 PM (krQz2)

207
Don't think the Black Sox in 1919 gave back the World Series Title.
Posted by: Oldcat


That is because they actually LOST the World Series.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 13, 2022 05:52 PM (pNxlR)

208 Mmm. Reichsburgers.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 13, 2022 05:53 PM (Vwz3I)

209 "Conservative", "white supremacist", and "fascist" all basically mean "anyone who isn't a communist" nowadays.

Posted by: Rodigo Borgia at December 13, 2022 05:53 PM (bW8dp)

210 Posted by: rd at December 13, 2022 05:48 PM (shoLh)
___

That question should be the lead off question posed to the interviewer from the NY Times, every single time.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 13, 2022 05:53 PM (fs1hN)

211 Listen to him, Chuy.
Posted by: The Six-fingered Man at December 13, 2022 05:09 PM (Wnv9h)

He's pre-med.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at December 13, 2022 05:54 PM (Zvtjl)

212 If my Quigley van weren't in serious deferred maintenance mode I might like that. It's been below freezing overnight routinely here in the SF Peninsula but no snow, I almost miss it...
Posted by: JEM


I will note that it's fiftyish and sunny now, wife is home and wants to do the five mile dog death-march.

Our 13yo skunk-killer tangled with a raccoon back in Feb, coonhound paralysis, carried him everywhere for four months. $10K in vet bills, he better last a while.

Posted by: JEM at December 13, 2022 05:54 PM (8erNz)

213 >Many people on the Right don't know or trust Matt Talibi and Bari Weiss.
Best way with this stuff is to drop it on the chans and let anons crowdsource the shit to get it out there.
Posted by: It's over at December 13, 2022 05:28 PM (YlPX

The right isn't the primary audience for this. The center-left is. Taibbi and Weiss are good choices given that. Still, I do agree that a simultaneous raw drop for chan autist consumption would also be excellent.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 13, 2022 05:55 PM (0D0Oa)

214 Don't think the Black Sox in 1919 gave back the World Series Title.
Posted by: Oldcat

That is because they actually LOST the World Series.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 13, 2022 05:52 PM (pNxlR)

I should have recalled that being from Cincy. Back to analogy jail for a while.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:55 PM (eoQWY)

215 freezing overnight routinely here in the SF Peninsula

Think it was 20 some odd years ago we had a freeze/frost in the San Fernando valley, remember front yards with withered tropical gardens.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 13, 2022 05:55 PM (xmxy/)

216 When the Black Sox lost on purpose, did the League punish them by awarding them the W.S. anyway??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 13, 2022 05:55 PM (Vwz3I)

217 It's so weird here. The high yesterday was 57 but that was at night! It kept getting warmer and warmer till daylight, then the temperature started dropping. Now 31 degrees and 25mph wind. supposed to get even colder later in the week.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2022 05:55 PM (uz3Px)

218 "The right isn't the primary audience for this."

Bingo. We *know* what happened, how it happened, and why.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 13, 2022 05:56 PM (jTmQV)

219 >>34F and Rain so far here in the Twin Cities. More Rain tomorrow, turning to 2-4 inches of Snow by Friday.

>>Uggh!

Buckle up. Joe Bastardi says we are going to see more cold and snow this winter than any time since 2000.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2022 05:56 PM (ZLI7S)

220 I would really doubt if Xi spends much time wondering how he's going to oversee and put in place the "withering away of the State".

I doubt that the Han Chinese leaders want to be counted in number with the non-Han masses. I doubt they want to give up their positions as "managers" and "planners" as if their country no longer needed their guidance.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 05:56 PM (krQz2)

221 So we're told how much smarter liberals are then the rest of us. They are the scions of intellect. The geniuses of acumen. The kings and queens of truth telling. Yet their response to material arguments is- ad hominems? I guess that's probably their patrician class retort as it seems the plebes on Twitter prefer memes.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2022 05:56 PM (Y45pj)

222
You know who headed the "naughty" list for every year from 1933 to 1944?

Sure you do!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 13, 2022 05:57 PM (pNxlR)

223
Doesn't look like any global warming is in store for the next eight weeks so time to clean out the wood stove and start a fire. Tomorrow.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 13, 2022 05:57 PM (enJYY)

224 Don't know if this has already been addressed, but Biden vomited out some insanity at the Disparaging of Marriage Law signing event about "gays getting thrown out of restaurants" stellar level projection considering a whole group of people were recently thrown out of a restaurant for being Christian.

BY GAYS.

Posted by: DaisyB at December 13, 2022 05:58 PM (AbL8c)

225 Political Satanism.

Easier if they wear zz top sunglasses while handling you a cup of Kool-Aide plus death.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 13, 2022 05:58 PM (Ha80i)

226 When the Black Sox lost on purpose, did the League punish them by awarding them the W.S. anyway??
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 13, 2022 05:55 PM (Vwz3I)

A lot of Baseball writers seem to have canonized them. Look at that movie Field of Dreams.

always annoyed me since the Reds had a better record than them the automatic assumption of superiority.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 05:59 PM (eoQWY)

227 I missed the marriage /drag queen thread but they had to write a law protecting the right to mixed marriages ? I bet Clarence Thomas was surprised it was in jeopardy

Posted by: It's me donna at December 13, 2022 05:59 PM (bs+z0)

228 What Ace needs to do is flush his sinuses with warm salt water laced with a few drops of iodine. I haven't had a cold in years and thats the first thing I do when I suspect I'm coming down with one.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 13, 2022 05:59 PM (QSjkU)

229 >>>> You know who headed the "naughty" list for every year from 1933 to 1944?


Also works without the question mark

Posted by: x at December 13, 2022 05:59 PM (qHzv4)

230 219 >>34F and Rain so far here in the Twin Cities. More Rain tomorrow, turning to 2-4 inches of Snow by Friday.

>>Uggh!

Buckle up. Joe Bastardi says we are going to see more cold and snow this winter than any time since 2000.
Posted by: JackStraw



wiNtrZ r a ThINg oF Da pAzT!!

Posted by: The Guardian, smurt newzpaper at December 13, 2022 06:00 PM (sAmhv)

231 And finally, saying that there was any "Communism" out of Marxists in the 20th century is like saying that the reign of the Jacobins was all about Liberty, Equality and Brotherhood (of, of, and with) the Girondists, another strain of Jacobins with which the Montagnards had a disagreement.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 06:00 PM (krQz2)

232 >182 Montana Law That Bars COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates In Health Care Settings Is Unconstitutional: Judge

That's an amazing pretzel of logic there. Well done, legal guild.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 13, 2022 06:00 PM (0D0Oa)

233 Stolen from elsewhere:

The Biden administration is interviewing potential replacements for Sam Brinton.

They're looking for a candidate with less baggage.

Posted by: Rodigo Borgia at December 13, 2022 06:00 PM (bW8dp)

234 "...they had to write a law protecting the right to mixed marriages ?"

So you could be called a racist if you were against it.
These people are children in adult bodies.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 13, 2022 06:00 PM (jTmQV)

235 I missed the marriage /drag queen thread but they had to write a law protecting the right to mixed marriages ? I bet Clarence Thomas was surprised it was in jeopardy

The left has been pretending there is some movement against "mixed race" marriages since gay marriage came up back in 2012. And yes they claim Clarence Thomas is one of the leaders of that movement.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 13, 2022 06:00 PM (lc5cP)

236 > And finally, saying that there was any "Communism" out of Marxists in the 20th century is like saying that the reign of the Jacobins was all about Liberty, Equality and Brotherhood

North Korea: totally a "democratic republic".


Posted by: Rodigo Borgia at December 13, 2022 06:01 PM (bW8dp)

237 >>> The right isn't the primary audience for this. The center-left is. Taibbi and Weiss are good choices given that. Still, I do agree that a simultaneous raw drop for chan autist consumption would also be excellent.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 13, 2022 05:55 PM (0D0Oa)
--------------------

^^^

Thread Winner

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 13, 2022 06:01 PM (d4edd)

238 So we're told how much smarter liberals are then the rest of us. They are the scions of intellect. The geniuses of acumen.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2022 05:56 PM (Y45pj)

sure, by liberals.

You have to go back a ways when it was popular to point out the shrewdness of regular folk over the elite.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 06:01 PM (eoQWY)

239
The left has been pretending there is some movement against "mixed race" marriages since gay marriage came up back in 2012. And yes they claim Clarence Thomas is one of the leaders of that movement.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 13, 2022 06:00 PM (lc5cP)

His White wife must be nervous

Posted by: It's me donna at December 13, 2022 06:01 PM (bs+z0)

240 Per Sundance, Axios has a "glowing review" of Bari Weiss' new website. Very nice review, including an obligatory mention of her wife.

This is all very interesting.

Also Bill Barr is involved with the site. Hmm.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 13, 2022 06:01 PM (YJwUM)

241
They're looking for a candidate with less baggage.

Posted by: Rodigo Borgia


Has to be crate trained, too, I hear.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 13, 2022 06:02 PM (pNxlR)

242
wiNtrZ r a ThINg oF Da pAzT!!
Posted by: The Guardian, smurt newzpaper at December 13, 2022 06:00 PM (sAmhv)



New York / New Jersey built their new football stadium with no roof with the full expectation that global warmening was a thing and it would never snow there in February and they would have super bowls there every year.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 06:02 PM (Zz0t1)

243 BUY PILLOW @JackPosobiec · 1h
Wow there haven't been this many drag queens at the White House since the founder of the FBI was around

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 13, 2022 06:02 PM (Vwz3I)

244 >>Buckle up. Joe Bastardi says we are going to see more cold and snow this winter than any time since 2000.


It has been cold and snowing since a week or more before thanksgiving. Forecast says more snow and colder next week.

Hopefully this chases out a bunch of the assholes from Texas and California that have relocated, here.


Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2022 06:02 PM (XUfqk)

245 So we're told how much smarter liberals are then the rest of us. They are the scions of intellect. The geniuses of acumen. The kings and queens of truth telling.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2022 05:56 PM (Y45pj)
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They mainly excel at narcissism and collecting flattering descriptions of themselves.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 06:02 PM (krQz2)

246 The left has been pretending there is some movement against "mixed race" marriages since gay marriage came up back in 2012. And yes they claim Clarence Thomas is one of the leaders of that movement.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 13, 2022 06:00 PM (lc5cP)

There is.....by liberals. I've heard rumblings about black women not wanting their men marrying outside the group, and of course the average liberal is racist as the day is long like any good Democrat.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 06:03 PM (eoQWY)

247 I put sardines, garlic, and stinky French cheese in the blender, then wear the mixture in a sack around my neck.

Haven't had a cold since, since no one will come close enough to infect me.

Posted by: Rodigo Borgia at December 13, 2022 06:03 PM (bW8dp)

248 228 What Ace needs to do is flush his sinuses with warm salt water laced with a few drops of iodine. I haven't had a cold in years and thats the first thing I do when I suspect I'm coming down with one.

ah. the old "frighten it off" ploy. second time i've seen it this week.

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda and totally not chatgpt at December 13, 2022 06:03 PM (oY6Yp)

249 227 I missed the marriage /drag queen thread but they had to write a law protecting the right to mixed marriages ? I bet Clarence Thomas was surprised it was in jeopardy
Posted by: It's me donna



That was thrown in there so anybody who voted against this depraved crap can be accused as racist. Everything is an op. Everything is broken.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 13, 2022 06:03 PM (sAmhv)

250 New York / New Jersey built their new football stadium with no roof with the full expectation that global warmening was a thing and it would never snow there in February and they would have super bowls there every year.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 06:02 PM (Zz0t1)

if they believed that it would be underwater so it should have airlocks and scuba gear.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 06:04 PM (eoQWY)

251 Probably just me, but after being in the PNW all those years, I find old guys bundled up in Carhart to be sexy as hell.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2022 06:04 PM (uz3Px)

252 That was thrown in there so anybody who voted against this depraved crap can be accused as racist. Everything is an op. Everything is broken.
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 13, 2022 06:03 PM (sAmhv)

They can do that without a clause. It the go-to response.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 06:06 PM (eoQWY)

253 *puts on Carhart jacket*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 13, 2022 06:06 PM (3Lw3j)

254 >>>Our 13yo skunk-killer tangled with a raccoon back in Feb, coonhound paralysis, carried him everywhere for four months.

>Last time my skunk-killer got into a skirmish at the rubbish bins, I pulled him off and got sprayed and he got away scent free. I was force to ride in the bed of the truck that day.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 13, 2022 06:07 PM (geVLo)

255 I guess SBF let a few hundred dollars go to GOP candidates...

Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 3h
BREAKING: US prosecutors: FTX founder Bankman-Fried made illegal campaign donations totaling in the 'tens of millions of dollars.' - AP

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 13, 2022 06:08 PM (Vwz3I)

256 Given my hypothesis that the Twitter Files is not primarily aimed at the right (although it does bolster us), then I think it's easy to claim that Sundance at Conservative Treehouse is either a General Ripper-level crank, or he's a demoralization agent. I have my suspicions, given some of his other targets lately.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 13, 2022 06:08 PM (0D0Oa)

257 Doesn't look like any global warming is in store for the next eight weeks so time to clean out the wood stove and start a fire. Tomorrow.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 13, 2022 05:57 PM (enJYY)

Check the stove pipe too.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2022 06:08 PM (BdMk6)

258 >>>Our 13yo skunk-killer tangled with a raccoon back in Feb, coonhound paralysis, carried him everywhere for four months.

>Last time my skunk-killer got into a skirmish at the rubbish bins, I pulled him off and got sprayed and he got away scent free. I was force to ride in the bed of the truck that day.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 13, 2022 06:07 PM (geVLo)

Your dog drove you home? Good Boy!!

Posted by: Oldcat at December 13, 2022 06:09 PM (eoQWY)

259 The left has been pretending there is some movement against "mixed race" marriages since gay marriage came up back in 2012. And yes they claim Clarence Thomas is one of the leaders of that movement.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 13, 2022 06:00 PM (lc5cP)
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They should get the yellow card for diving.

However, it is illustrative of the two-way thinking on these things. Dobbs specifically says nothing should be construed to be a basis for any challenge to interracial marriage.

So, what is the fact? It says that it isn't about interracial marriage. So, shouldn't lefties believe this?

On the other hand if conservatives worry about some sort of ruling that something says it would never imply that outcome is USED as the reason that conservatives are "making things up" and "spreading fear".

"Calm down. It says it won't do that." (Just like Affirmative Action said it would never compel association, mind you.)

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 06:09 PM (krQz2)

260 That question should be the lead off question posed to the interviewer from the NY Times, every single time.
Posted by: Chuck Martel


First Day of the Trump Press Briefing. The Press Secretary comes out with a big thick binder full of questions for every news organization. "Hey Everyone! New Format. You identify yourself and your organization. I ask you a question, then you get to ask me a question."

"Mr. WAPO Reporter, did the WAPO ever correct the false story about XYZ? Why Not? Oh, you cannot answer that question? How about we get an answer tomorrow?"

Next Day: "Mr. WAPO Reporter, what is WAPO's Answer? No answer? Sit Down! You don't get to ask a question today!"

Posted by: rd at December 13, 2022 06:10 PM (shoLh)

261 Given my hypothesis that the Twitter Files is not primarily aimed at the right (although it does bolster us), then I think it's easy to claim that Sundance at Conservative Treehouse is either a General Ripper-level crank, or he's a demoralization agent. I have my suspicions, given some of his other targets lately.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen

It's only information. Is Barr not involved with Weiss' project? Did Axios not write a glowing review? Or is this just Mal-information? That is, true but shouldn't be talked about?

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 13, 2022 06:11 PM (YJwUM)

262
Check the stove pipe too.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2022 06:08 PM


A mere 1/2" of creosote on it. I TSP every fire anymore. Dry the hell out of the wood, split it down to mere fragments. Still get creosote.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 13, 2022 06:13 PM (enJYY)

263 >>>> xios has a "glowing review" of Bari Weiss' new website. Very nice review, including an obligatory mention of her wife.

This is all very interesting.
...
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled
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Have you seen her? She's more butch than Buttiegig.
oh, that's right, he's the wife
what a world

hahahaha

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 13, 2022 06:14 PM (d4edd)

264 The American left believed that Dodd was a slippery slope.

It's good enough to poo-pooh conservatives and cite them the technical point that Slippery Slope is a fallacy (and "fallacy" never means "impossible") when conservatives see an argument leading elsewhere.

But if abortions go back to the states, so do interracial marriages. Because apparently, the lack of a right to abort means the lack of legitimacy for the central government to restrict a state's infringement on other rights via the 14th amendment (and it doesn't).

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2022 06:14 PM (krQz2)

265 Love is love.

Blasphemy is for eternity.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 13, 2022 06:15 PM (Zz0t1)

266 Just saw a story on TV. Local successful suburban HS Coach is in BIG! trouble. He was giving a class on social media pitfalls. He was reading off examples of bad, problematic social media posts verbatim, and uttered the full, unadulterated N* word as it was written in a post.

Students complained, pearls were clutched, now the School Board is meeting to fire his ass.

Posted by: rd at December 13, 2022 06:18 PM (shoLh)

267 @Breaking911 · 1h
BIDEN: "When a person can be married in the morning, and thrown out of a restaurant for being gay in the afternoon, this is still wrong."
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Because wedding cakes and webpages are public accommodations like restaurants and hotels.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 13, 2022 06:19 PM (Vwz3I)

268 Buckle up. Joe Bastardi says we are going to see more cold and snow this winter than any time since 2000

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Damn this global warming!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2022 06:19 PM (FVME7)

269 A mere 1/2" of creosote on it. I TSP every fire anymore. Dry the hell out of the wood, split it down to mere fragments. Still get creosote.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

============
Do those "Creosote Sweeping Logs" work?

Posted by: rd at December 13, 2022 06:20 PM (shoLh)

270 WTF???

@Breaking911 · 2h
REPORTER: “Will the President return that donation [from FTX, SBF]?”

KJP: “I am covered here by the Hatch Act.”

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 13, 2022 06:21 PM (Vwz3I)

271 In Satanism, some words have magical barbs that can give your sex mojo sex disease.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 13, 2022 06:21 PM (f1USB)

272 >It's only information. Is Barr not involved with Weiss' project? Did Axios not write a glowing review? Or is this just Mal-information? That is, true but shouldn't be talked about?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 13, 2022 06:11 PM (YJwUM)

Frankly, IDC. I'm so blackpilled, it's all a joke. Shit on the people doing more than Con Inc because purity.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 13, 2022 06:22 PM (0D0Oa)

273 "It was and their reporter...er, um...liar, Joseph Duranty won the Pulitzer for his lies."

5-10 million starved to death in Ukraine, iirc. Thing is, interviews I saw months ago of random (?) Russians, many kinda felt "hey they are dirty Ukrainians, let them all die".

And many nations are still like that, except the West, which instead is suicidal ... or at least the "leadership" of the West is murderous, and many Woke are willing to be submissives.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2022 06:23 PM (Cus5s)

274 A mere 1/2" of creosote on it. I TSP every fire anymore. Dry the hell out of the wood, split it down to mere fragments. Still get creosote.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
==========

Need a bigger pipe?
Need a hotter pipe?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 13, 2022 06:24 PM (d4edd)

275 non nooding cunts

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 13, 2022 06:25 PM (Vwz3I)

276
Do those "Creosote Sweeping Logs" work?

Posted by: rd at December 13, 2022 06:20 PM


I couldn't say one way or another. I buy tri-sodium-phosphate (the ingredient in the 'Sweeping Logs' and include it in every burn. But the initial couple feet of my stove pipe still collects too much creosote for my liking.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 13, 2022 06:25 PM (enJYY)

277 Here's some common sense hate speech.

https://bit.ly/3Hz6VMU

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2022 06:25 PM (FVME7)

278 271 In Satanism, some words have magical barbs that can give your sex mojo sex disease.
Posted by: humphreyrobot
-----------------------------

Traded for an eternity of swimming in a molten lake of sulfur.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 13, 2022 06:27 PM (d4edd)

279 WTF???

@Breaking911 · 2h
REPORTER: “Will the President return that donation [from FTX, SBF]?”

KJP: “I am covered here by the Hatch Act.”
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I)


==================\

She is an idiot. The correct answer is, "That is a question for Candidate Biden's Political Campaign Committee. The White House does not deal with political campaign issues."

Posted by: rd at December 13, 2022 06:27 PM (shoLh)

280 "A mere 1/2" of creosote on it. I TSP every fire anymore. Dry the hell out of the wood, split it down to mere fragments. Still get creosote."

I have about five feet horizontal going into the old chimney which is about 30' straight up. The horizontal part gets the creosote, but the vertical stays clean. I do dump in a little of the anti-creosote stuff (and have not burned the last two years) ... but so much easier to clean the low pipes.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2022 06:28 PM (Cus5s)

281 Don't BBQ in the fireplace. Unless you are a cannibal

Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 13, 2022 06:28 PM (f1USB)

282 KJP: “I am covered here by the Hatch Act.”
---------------------

Did Biden transport her over the border. You know?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 13, 2022 06:29 PM (d4edd)

283 The horizontal is not hot enough for the creosote to burn off so it collects. The run sounds long, perhaps an upward angle to increase evacuation speed.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 13, 2022 06:31 PM (d4edd)

284
I have about five feet horizontal going into the old chimney which is about 30' straight up. The horizontal part gets the creosote, but the vertical stays clean. I do dump in a little of the anti-creosote stuff (and have not burned the last two years) ... but so much easier to clean the low pipes.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2022 06:28 PM


That's exactly my issue, the horizontal part, about three to four feet long. The chim, chimneney is fine.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 13, 2022 06:32 PM (enJYY)

285 I've tagged every thread today.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 13, 2022 06:32 PM (d4edd)

286 "The horizontal is not hot enough for the creosote to burn off so it collects. The run sounds long, perhaps an upward angle to increase evacuation speed." Posted by: Braenyard

Maybe, but I like that I can easily clean this low part, cleaning the other would a big pain. Old bricked in ... would have to get it from about probably (an opening in the basement, not sure I could bend the fiberglass poles through the angle.)

And not sure about angle increasing speed, seems speed would be same throughout, because of the draw. And pipe is smaller, so should be even faster through pipe. Don't really understand all the dynamics. (unless some air is being drawn through the basement opening which is supposedly closed)

For now, firewood is the back up ... air gets too dry burning the wood stove. Thanks for your idea.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2022 06:43 PM (Cus5s)

287 from above, not about.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2022 06:44 PM (Cus5s)

288 We're an unserious country with deep spiritual sickness if a creep like Roth was ever allowed to be in society, much less become the head censor at Twitter.
I'm unsurprised about the meltdown by the left. The lies and danger council was one of the most powerful weapons they've lost. Regular people's eyes are bulging at just how ludicrous, creepy, unhinged the inquisition behaved. It lived and worked in a parareality.

The simps' arguments it's a private company and can do whatever is totally repuidated.

Posted by: Xavier Basora at December 13, 2022 06:52 PM (w8x0O)

289
Buckle up. Joe Bastardi says we are going to see more cold and snow this winter than any time since 2000

___________

What about Europe? Maybe they'll be burning Greens to stay warm.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2022 07:11 PM (MoZTd)

290
KJP: “I am covered here by the Hatch Act.”

_________

Shouldn't that be the Mann Act?

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