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Scientists Say Fusion Reactor Produces More Energy Than It Consumes*
* Except It Totally Doesn't Do That, Science Writers Are Stupid and Have Been Lying to You For Years
Sorry to inform everyone, but this is fake news.
Oh, it produced 120% of the energy of the lasers hitting the pellet? So the energy being used on the lasers was the only energy going into the reactor? No. Not even close. As Sabina Hossenfelder (a physicist) explains below, science "journalists" -- probably being misled by researchers themselves, who want the public to think that fusion is closer to realization than it is -- have been playing a game (lying, I'd say) about what constitutes the "break-even point" of fusion power production, the point at which output of energy equals input of energy. Now you would naturally assume that articles like this must be talking about output of energy versus all energy used to produce this energy, not just some of it. It's only that comparison that could possibly result in a claim of a "break even" in term of output versus input. If the scientists are just saying output exceeded one of the lesser energy inputs required to get the output -- well that wouldn't be anything like what they're claiming, would it? But that is exactly what is going on. To produce energy through fusion through this method -- if I understand this right -- you need to confine the reaction with powerful electromagnets. This itself requires a huge amount of energy -- but this energy is never included in the comparison of output vs. input when science "journalists" say "we almost reached break-even" or, today, "we produced 120% of the energy that we put in." There are two ways of measuring the energy required to produce fusion. Q[total] would be the sum of all energy inputted into the system. That is, the number we all think they're talking about when they say "output exceeded input." But they're not talking about that. They're talking about Q[laser], which is only the energy used to power the lasers that are hitting the fuel pellet. This much smaller measure of energy is the energy they're talking about when they say "output exceeded input." As you can see in the article above, they hint at this, by specifying later in the article that the energy produced exceeded the energy required to power the lasers, but then do not go on to mention that there are other energy costs -- big ones -- beyond the lasers. For a fusion reactor to actually reach "the break-even point" where it's producing more energy than it's consuming, the energy produced must exceed Q[total], not just Q[laser]. But Q[laser] is the only thing these "science journalists" ever talk about, and the actual scientists running these fusion projects never seem to correct them. This is like claiming your company is running at a "profit" because revenues exceed the costs for materials -- without noting that there are some other costs, like labor, rent, insurance, etc., that must be included to determine if you're really running at a profit or not. And so the public remains misinformed, even lied to -- but misinformed and lied to in the right way, inclined to support The Science (TM). This doesn't mean that fusion isn't worth pursuing. It does mean that they're lying about being anywhere near the break-even point. This is going to take decades, if it's even achievable at all.
US government scientists have made a breakthrough in the pursuit of limitless, zero-carbon power by achieving a net energy gain in a fusion reaction for the first time, according to three people with knowledge of preliminary results from a recent experiment. Physicists have since the 1950s sought to harness the fusion reaction that powers the sun, but no group had been able to produce more energy from the reaction than it consumes -- a milestone known as net energy gain or target gain, which would help prove the process could provide a reliable, abundant alternative to fossil fuels and conventional nuclear energy. The federal Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory(opens a new window) in California, which uses a process called inertial confinement fusion that involves bombarding a tiny pellet of hydrogen plasma with the world's biggest laser, had achieved net energy gain in a fusion experiment in the past two weeks, the people said. Although many scientists believe fusion power stations are still decades away, the technology's potential is hard to ignore. Fusion reactions emit no carbon, produce no long-lived radioactive waste and a small cup of the hydrogen fuel could theoretically power a house for hundreds of years. ... The fusion reaction at the US government facility produced about 2.5 megajoules of energy, which was about 120 per cent of the 2.1 megajoules of energy in the lasers, the people with knowledge of the results said, adding that the data was still being analysed.
The US department of energy has said energy secretary Jennifer Granholm and under-secretary for nuclear security Jill Hruby will announce "a major scientific breakthrough" at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory on Tuesday. The department declined to comment further.Jennifer Granholm? Oh, in that case, ignore everything I wrote. Obviously this is legit.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Jordan61 at December 12, 2022 02:55 PM (DRSnL)
I'll believe it when I see it.
Posted by: a.moron at December 12, 2022 02:56 PM (tu3iY)
...we'll just have to wait a few years for them to get the kinks out.
Just like the past 50 years.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2022 02:57 PM (zjgNU)
Posted by: Biden's Dog, Front-Line Commenter Wannabee, at December 12, 2022 02:57 PM (joGaA)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 02:57 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 12, 2022 02:57 PM (BTgKJ)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 02:57 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 12, 2022
***
Ever since that line in Anchorman where Christina Applegate says that Ron's cologne "smells like a diaper filled with Indian food," I've been, uh, off the subcontinent chow.
Likely for good, as I never liked it much before the movie.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 12, 2022 02:58 PM (J2vNu)
Just collect ~1 solar mass of Hydrogen, move it close to one point and there you go in a few tens of thousands to millions of years.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 02:58 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 02:58 PM (LT8iN)
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SQUIRREL!!!
Shouldn't we trust the science?
Posted by: Biden's Dog, Front-Line Commenter Wannabee, at December 12, 2022 02:58 PM (joGaA)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 02:58 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: your High School English teacher at December 12, 2022 02:58 PM (P1f+c)
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2022 02:58 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 12, 2022 02:59 PM (R8uWY)
Posted by: spindrift at December 12, 2022 02:59 PM (h5TKJ)
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2022 02:59 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: your High School English teacher at December 12, 2022 02:59 PM (P1f+c)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 12, 2022 02:59 PM (3Lw3j)
Posted by: Biden's Dog, Front-Line Commenter Wannabee, at December 12, 2022 02:59 PM (joGaA)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 02:58 PM (LT8iN)
Cut him some slack, he has a cold.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 12, 2022 02:59 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: I am the Dr. Shadout Mapes, M.D. (Hollywood Upstairs Medical College) at December 12, 2022 02:59 PM (PiwSw)
It prompted the meme of "Energy too cheap to meter"
Of course, it was proven later that they didn't actually get fusion.
Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2022 02:59 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: JM in Florida at December 12, 2022 03:00 PM (96XPf)
Posted by: Dr. T at December 12, 2022 03:00 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2022 03:00 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (LT8iN)
-High Priests of The Science
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (dReA3)
I'll believe it when I see it.
Posted by: a.moron at December 12, 2022 02:56 PM (tu3iY)
And the problems are always the same problems. It isn't like they have solved any and moved on to another one.
And I am pretty skeptical of how even if everything works you get the heat out of the system in a sustained operation to keep it from melting everything after a few seconds to minutes of running.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: "Dr." Tony Fauci at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (CaJIi)
You know, like a coal or natural gas power plant.
No one today has any idea at all what that kind of plant would look like. Fusion power today is lab experiments that consume vast amounts of money and employ vast numbers of scientists and engineers for decades, without producing anything useful.
Posted by: a.moron at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (tu3iY)
Remember to show up early!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (Spg0+)
(Also, BUILDING THEM, but I realize that's just a pipe dream because we are, collectively, a profoundly stupid people.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (zjgNU)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (3Lw3j)
Musk changed his "pronouns" to prosecute/Fauci...
After seeing what Twitter has stored away on the guy.
This is going to be popcorn worthy when it finally drops.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (5p7BC)
Guess where the overwhelming majority of commercially available hydrogen comes from?
The petrochemical industry.
Save Gaia. Drill for more oil. Fucking morons.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (flINI)
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (sAmhv)
The kink is part of the shame.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2022 03:02 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Biden's Dog, Front-Line Commenter Wannabee, at December 12, 2022 03:02 PM (joGaA)
Posted by: Archer at December 12, 2022 03:02 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
The expat community calls that region 'The Indian Diet Plan'
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:02 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Dr. T
100 MPG carburetor too, right?
Posted by: tin-foil Klein bottle at December 12, 2022 03:02 PM (P1f+c)
I've been wondering if a theromnuclear device would absorb the lithium if the device went off near an EV with lithium batteries.
Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2022 03:02 PM (RHGPo)
Sure, of course.
Who is doing the experiments? Scientists. Who do scientists work for? Large institutions. Where are the large institutions located? In the West.
So, every word they say is an outright fuckin' lie. QED.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2022 03:02 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:02 PM (+sD5M)
*points to my own two eyes, then points back at ace*
watching you
Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2022 03:02 PM (p/6sa)
I know nobody cares, but my son's recruiting profile has just been followed by Baylor University. He was like "What???"
Posted by: jmel at December 12, 2022 03:03 PM (RWHIh)
Posted by: Archer at December 12, 2022 03:03 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 12, 2022 03:03 PM (VbI7r)
Posted by: Stanley Pons at December 12, 2022 03:03 PM (XIJ/X)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (Spg0+)
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Here I was thinking of Wimpy and a hamburger.
My head's not on straight.
Posted by: Biden's Dog, Front-Line Commenter Wannabee, at December 12, 2022 03:03 PM (joGaA)
Biomass is burning trees for heat. Just like the dark ages.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:03 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 12, 2022 03:03 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Doof at December 12, 2022 03:04 PM (ChAEn)
SiriusXM is doing a retrospective on "do they know it's Christmas" on first wave.
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 12, 2022 03:04 PM (Mkvkw)
A science magazine staple since 1972.
Posted by: Auspex at December 12, 2022 03:04 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2022 03:04 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Biden's Dog, Front-Line Commenter Wannabee, at December 12, 2022 03:03 PM (joGaA)
Heh, so was I.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 12, 2022 03:04 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2022 03:04 PM (CaJIi)
There's a lot of money out there for getting it right, and some sloppy work being done but more significantly sloppy REPORTING being done.
I mean, scientists are bad about using sloppy language when they talk to reporters, saying things like this IS true rather than it appears this may be true or this is promising. And reporters don't like careful hedging language, they like sexy direct language.
Science has increasingly become sloppy and lazy with how they state things. You get statements like "this is 14 million years old" when they don't know that, they simply estimate with best information and it PROBABLY is that old, based on current data.
But you don't get grants and lab space being precise, so... you get the lazy sloppy language.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2022 03:04 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2022 03:05 PM (lc5cP)
Posted by: Buddy the elf at December 12, 2022 03:05 PM (ChAEn)
Posted by: tin-foil Klein bottle at December 12, 2022 03:02 PM (P1f+c)
Yeah! And the car companies and the oil companies are keeping it quiet because of PROFIT, man! *picks up bong*
Posted by: Dr. T at December 12, 2022 03:05 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2022 03:04 PM (63Dwl)
Nuke the whales!
Posted by: Nelson Muntz at December 12, 2022 03:05 PM (h5TKJ)
Posted by: JM in Florida at December 12, 2022 03:00 PM (96XPf)
Yeah, it's been a while since I got two in a row.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 12, 2022 03:05 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: SH
What about the right whale?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2022 03:04 PM (63Dwl)
That's whalin'. Not fishin'.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2022 03:05 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Biden's Dog, Front-Line Commenter Wannabee, at December 12, 2022 03:06 PM (joGaA)
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at December 12, 2022 03:06 PM (53oGX)
Just legislate fusion power into existence and freaking take a day off. This isn't hard!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 12, 2022 03:06 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2022 03:06 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Danimal28 at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (klw0w)
Posted by: a.moron at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM
I think you just described government.
Posted by: Beartooth at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (kts79)
Texas coal has limestone or something in it, so it's called something other than coal, which I don't remember. However, they've got the systems at those plants emitting less 'pollution' than gasoline engine cars. That didn't stop the Owebama administration from shutting them down and tearing them out because of "climate change."
When Texas had "Snowmageddon," the only plants that remained online and produced constant power were the coal burning plants. Even the natural gas plants shut down because the gas will freeze and become a goo that won't pump or burn properly.
None of this bullshit has anything to do with "climate change." We're being hornswoggled.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (+sD5M)
Posted by: wth at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (v0R5T)
Musk changed his "pronouns" to prosecute/Fauci...
After seeing what Twitter has stored away on the guy.
This is going to be popcorn worthy when it finally drops.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (5p7BC)
_____________________
Lead story on TMZ Live!
Elon Musk went to a Dave Chapelle Show in Frisco and got booed. "Not even Dave Chapelle could save Elon Musk."
Posted by: rd at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (Z32m1)
Anyone remember that nut Cathy Areyu ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (M+Lyo)
I'd recommend some warm green tea with raw honey
i'll do some green tea next.
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2022 02:08 PM (C1Zwz)
Hot Dr Pepper (or Coke) with lemon and ginger is great for clearing mucus and sore throats.
Heat DP in a pan with fresh lemon slices and fresh ginger slices. Bring to a boil. Drink when same temperature at which you'd drink coffee or tea.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (KLPy8)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (uNylN)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (3Lw3j)
You know, not like that dirty, radioactive fission power that we have 60 years of proven results.
Except for the some 93 million miles away, it's pretty deadly with a whole lot of radiation that's gonna require shielding as great as or greater than our current reactors.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (83vPj)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:08 PM (+sD5M)
I've been wondering if a theromnuclear device would absorb the lithium if the device went off near an EV with lithium batteries.
Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2022 03:02 PM (RHGPo)
Last I heard the pellets were deuterium/tritium frozen. These are isotopes of Hydrogen, one with an extra neutron, one with two. The latter is also radio active. Both freeze only near absolute zero.
The downside of using lithium is that with three protons in each nucleus that is three times the force you need to overcome with Hydrogen, or nine times for Li on Li action.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:08 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 12, 2022 03:08 PM (M+Lyo)
I know nobody cares, but my son's recruiting profile has just been followed by Baylor University. He was like "What???"
Posted by: jmel
Nice !
Congrats to he and ye !
Posted by: JT at December 12, 2022 03:08 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: eleven at December 12, 2022 03:08 PM (t4fCu)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 03:08 PM (sX1BW)
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And this time they moved on to the world's biggest laser
Posted by: JM in Florida at December 12, 2022 03:08 PM (96XPf)
Yeah that clean sun, so deadly we need 20 miles of atmosphere and to be 93 million miles away just to not be destroyed by its immense radiation.
Clean.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2022 03:08 PM (0hOvj)
Recommended reading for those interested in the topic.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (6JL3d)
Posted by: Archer at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Jewish Odysseus at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (bvp+i)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (83vPj)
if they are still using deuterium/tritium fuel, tritium Hydrogen is radioactive itsellf with half life of 12 days or so IIRC
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (eoQWY)
They're running the old Okey Doke on us.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (KLPy8 )
That sounds gross enough to actually work.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (DRSnL)
Only takes two ounces to do it!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (Blz2Y)
They are undoubtedly lying about this for religious reasons. But one excuse I've heard which I think might hold water if it came from someone more honest than a journalist, is that if the reaction itself produces a net surplus, then it's a matter of scale and engineering to meet all the other additional energy needs required to power the system. This is not a crazy idea, it's just impossible so far.
Posted by: Tom at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (xUK01)
It's sad that the corruption has reached even into the pure physics research.
Everyone just lies for the next grant check. The most advanced scientific establishment in world history, reduced to carnival barking shell-game operators.
Step right up, folks! Get yer fusion power RIIIIIIGHT HEAH! Guess which cup the power plant is under, win a functioning energy grid! Ooooh! Tough luck! Step right up..."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (oINRc)
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Only God knows, everything else is just a theory.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Sponge
It wasn't quite like that. The NG plants that were running were fine, and jacked up their output. The ones that weren't running could not be started in sub zero temperatures.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 12, 2022 03:08 PM (M+Lyo)
The liberal sherpa. Didn't she claim Tucker sexually harrassed her?
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM (VbI7r)
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM (BdMk6)
In July 2020, Areu and another woman filed a lawsuit against Fox News and some of its prominent contributors. The suit states that Areu was sexually harassed at Fox News, including by Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, and Howard Kurtz. The organization Times Up said in September 2020 that it was "providing PR support" to Areu. On November 15, 2021, the case was dismissed. The court provided an opportunity to file an amended suit, but Areu never did. The case was dismissed in November 2021 with prejudice.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM (lc5cP)
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Ah, grant renewal time in Old Vienna. Worried about getting your grant renewed? Mirabile dictu you've just had a great breakthrough, as luck would have it, and you wouldn't cancel/cut back funding for a project that just got favorable press, would you?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM (YqDXo)
Nadda.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 12, 2022 02:43 PM (Q4IgG)
Did you rule out dairy intolerance? Or other food intolerances? Dairy tends to be the biggest culprit...
Posted by: Nova local at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM (9+PxG)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM (/EuRN)
That headline no verb.
Posted by: your High School English teacher at December 12, 2022 02:58 PM (P1f+c) "
Fusion doesn't need verbs, man.
Posted by: eleven at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM (t4fCu)
Heat DP in a pan with fresh lemon slices and fresh ginger slices. Bring to a boil. Drink when same temperature at which you'd drink coffee or tea.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (KLPy
The vomiting really cleans out the mucus.
I know, because these days I do that if I get too much mucus in the throat even without Dr Pepper.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM (eoQWY)
In all cases, however : (1) It's a minuscule amount of energy, and (b) It's not a continuous process that can be harnessed to generate steam, to spin a turbine, to turn a generator to make electricity.
It's a one-shot deal, that takes weeks to set up, then generates a lot of power for a fraction of a second, with no way to do anything useful with the power.
Posted by: a.moron at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (tu3iY)
Posted by: red speck at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (gS3OW)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (LT8iN)
Posted by: Col. Puppythruster at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (AfS7D)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2022 03:04 PM (0hOvj)
Hey, we got a living to make. Still have 15 years to retirement
Posted by: Fusion Engineers at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (71yCL)
........
They going to show us their new and improved tits?
Posted by: wth at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (v0R5T)
My pronouns would be, were I on the twatters, Shoveit / Upyerass.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (+sD5M)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM (/EuRN)
I think that is what they DO use, though they might fudge it.
Likely they don't account for the work needed to make/freeze the fuel.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (eoQWY)
The Thermal Bottleneck
If the first law of thermodynamics says you can't win, then the Second Law of Thermodynamics says you can't even break even.
The First Law is essentially a statement of conservation of energy and asserts that you can't get more energy out of a heat engine than you put in.
But the Second Law says that no heat engine can use all the heat produced by a fuel to do work.
The Carnot cycle sets the ideal efficiency which can be obtained if there is no friction, mechanical losses, leakage, etc., but real machine efficiencies are much less.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2022 03:12 PM (9uCBG)
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The classic example of this was a colleague of mine who just had his Office of Naval Research grant not renewed. Later that week, he received the Nobel Prize for the work ONR had supported. Surprisingly, ONR decided to renew his grant. We had a good laugh over that one.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:12 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:12 PM (+sD5M)
Heat DP in a pan with fresh lemon slices and fresh ginger slices. Bring to a boil. Drink when same temperature at which you'd drink coffee or tea.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2022 03:07 PM (KLPy
Boil up some Mt. Dew. It works for me.
Posted by: Dale Alvin Gribble at December 12, 2022 03:12 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: torabora at December 12, 2022 03:13 PM (FZWRZ)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 12, 2022 03:13 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: red speck at December 12, 2022 03:13 PM (gS3OW)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:13 PM (LT8iN)
anytime the Government runs something, it becomes corrupt. Period.
Science is no different.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2022 03:13 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Azathoth at December 12, 2022 03:13 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 12, 2022 02:59 PM (R8uWY)
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One problem. It's powered by cancer oil.
Posted by: Darth Randall at December 12, 2022 03:13 PM (zL564)
I know nobody cares, but my son's recruiting profile has just been followed by Baylor University. He was like "What???"
Posted by: jmel at December 12, 2022 03:03 PM (RWHIh)
sweet. what sport?
my son's profile has picked up so decent followers. he's a soccer goalie.
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 12, 2022 03:14 PM (Mkvkw)
Posted by: red speck at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (gS3OW)
it uses a different process - it uses its huge mass to overcome repulsion and compress the fuel and high temperatures to allow them to bang hard. It uses a Carbon nucleus to pass through a cycle of reactions that leads to some H turning to He and returns the Carbon back to doing it again.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:14 PM (eoQWY)
Nadda.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 12, 2022 02:43 PM (Q4IgG)
I put a couple nice air cleaners in my house, it seems to help me a lot
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 12, 2022 03:14 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: Minuteman at December 12, 2022 03:14 PM (LaNzR)
"... and the key element in this breakthrough was serendipitously discovered by deputy assistant secretary of Spent Fuel and Waste Disposition Sam Brinton ..."
Posted by: Chuck C at December 12, 2022 03:14 PM (xttsV)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 02:58 PM (sX1BW)
The rules about controlled fires in rangeland in the west are pretty complex now. Most of the leased land is not burned as a consequence.
. . . What?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNaMdnDP0Z8
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2022 03:14 PM (xhaym)
Foe some reason, their Solar Power Plants were blacked out too! /sarc
Posted by: rd at December 12, 2022 03:14 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 03:14 PM (D8mow)
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Look at the bright side. She hasn't been accused of stealing luggage. Though I suspect she wears men's clothing.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 03:14 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: a.moron at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (tu3iY)
450 Three assistant Principals in Bellingham, WA have been criminally cited for failing to report a child's sexual assault.
https://bit.ly/3Ffv2xm
Teachers and school staff are mandatory reporters.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2022 02:59 PM (eyxn4)
Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (p/6sa)
Artificial womb facilities!
https://tinyurl.com/3n95kafp
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (LI2tq)
Someone should suggest they build some near the north pole. Because in the summer they'll get 24 straight hours of sunlight!
Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (lc5cP)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (LT8iN)
Posted by: Jennifer Granholm at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (gf7Ez)
First rule of nature is the first law of Thermodynamics
"Energy can neither be created nor destroyed." Period. End of story. Anything else lies.
First rule of mechanical engineering: the efficiency of any machine can never be 1 or greater
Posted by: Chester Simms at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (e2IEo)
Posted by: Col. Puppythruster at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (AfS7D)
I saw Dick Hole Fusion open for The Circle Jerks at Sluggo's in Pensacola in 1989.
Wild In The Streets!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (Spg0+)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (eoQWY)
Yeah...probably more like 12 years....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2022 03:16 PM (XIJ/X)
Like a red-wave election, then.
Posted by: red speck at December 12, 2022 03:16 PM (gS3OW)
It wasn't quite like that. The NG plants that were running were fine, and jacked up their output. The ones that weren't running could not be started in sub zero temperatures.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM (lTGtQ)
Now, my info was 2nd hand from a guy that talked directly to one of the coal plant managers. If the running plants stayed running, that would be different. I was referred that the liquid natural gas used in the areas that received extreme cold failed because the liquid became goo due to the temps over the extended period and the plants failed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:16 PM (+sD5M)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 02:58 PM (sX1BW)
The rules about controlled fires in rangeland in the west are pretty complex now. Most of the leased land is not burned as a consequence.
. . . What?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNaMdnDP0Z8
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2022 03:14 PM (xhaym)
Build up the fuel inventory on grazing lands, so the fires burn hotter, and the hotter fires can actually sterilize the soil so nothing grows on it.
Posted by: rd at December 12, 2022 03:16 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (LT8iN)
Blech. Why would you want to?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:16 PM (+sD5M)
Also, ~10 yrs ago, Lockheed came out and said that MIINIATURE fusion reactors (the size of a small car ttailer) should be out in 10 years. I'm guessing they were slightly off
Posted by: jb at December 12, 2022 03:16 PM (MFMP+)
But the Second Law says that no heat engine can use all the heat produced by a fuel to do work.
The Carnot cycle sets the ideal efficiency which can be obtained if there is no friction, mechanical losses, leakage, etc., but real machine efficiencies are much less.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2022 03:12 PM (9uCBG)
You people need to watch more Marvel movies. Tony Stark and Hank Pym could set you straight.
Posted by: Wally at December 12, 2022 03:17 PM (FJYfm)
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Look at the bright side. She hasn't been accused of stealing luggage. Though I suspect she wears men's clothing.
Posted by: SH
She did give federal subsidies to a company she was a major stockholder of. Then, she used the governmental loophole to sell the stock at a huge price increase, and not pay taxes on it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:17 PM (lTGtQ)
Artificial womb facilities!
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We should breakthrough this facility with some artificial fusion bombs.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 03:17 PM (sX1BW)
Use fission reactors to power the magnets and lasers needed produce the net gain in electricity produced with fusion. It's still carbon neutral.
I'll write my thesis tonight.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2022 03:17 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: rd at December 12, 2022 03:16 PM (Z32m1)
Hooray!
Posted by: Bill Gates at December 12, 2022 03:17 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:17 PM (Y5qcH)
Better. Its still rough but I'm coming to terms with not having my brother around any more. Mostly its a struggle to not do too much and damage my health, too. There's so much to do but I have time to get it done slowly and steadily instead of my usual "blast through everything until its done and then collapse" approach.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2022 03:17 PM (0hOvj)
It's a one-shot deal, that takes weeks to set up, then generates a lot of power for a fraction of a second, with no way to do anything useful with the power.
Posted by: a.moron at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (tu3iY)
Well pulling some of the Energy is simple enough since you just have some heat exchange liquid grab heat and carry it to normal turbines to do work.
Of course in this case these heat exchange elements couldn't interfere with the lasers nor the magnetic containing field.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:17 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 12, 2022 03:17 PM (oWBc3)
Well, the climate change cargo cult. It’s infected all of science journalism; once you accept that cargo cult science is okay in one field, it inevitably spread to the rest of science reporting.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 12, 2022 03:18 PM (EXyHK)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:18 PM (LT8iN)
Fusion should take its place next to solar and wind power next week, as Granholm rolls out her plan to shutter the last oil refineries.
Posted by: red speck at December 12, 2022 03:18 PM (gS3OW)
Posted by: Sponge
It wasn't quite like that. The NG plants that were running were fine, and jacked up their output. The ones that weren't running could not be started in sub zero temperatures.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:10 PM
Plus some of the NG wellheads had not been *approved* to provide emergency gas supplies to power plants because some idiot did not check that block on the form when they applied for the permits and they could not route gas to other power plants that needed it. We have been assured that block has now been checked.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 12, 2022 03:18 PM (uNylN)
What are conditions like at the center of ol' Sol where the fusion takes place? Some basic numbers:
Temp = 27 million F.
Pressure = 3.8 trillion psi
If you're interested, the two reactions that dominate in the Sun are the proton-proton reaction, and the CNO cycle.
Both of these fuse 4 protons into one He-4 nucleus (note you've got to add two electrons in there as well, inverse beta reaction).
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 12, 2022 03:19 PM (Mzdiz)
We?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 03:08 PM (sX1BW)
Sure. You will get your energy from wind and solar whether you like it or not. They will tear out all the other plants and YOU WILL LIKE IT.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:19 PM (+sD5M)
Artificial womb facilities!
https://tinyurl.com/3n95kafp
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (LI2tq)
Great.
Women will be doomed first. Then the rest of us will be eliminated. Then the deviant queers who run our society will just use the machines to pump out rough trade rent boys for themselves. Maybe occasionally a girl here and there for the ones with outré hetero tendencies. The stronger males will be permitted to reach adulthood and be used as free labor once they're no longer attractive to people like Yoel Roth.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2022 03:19 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Lola at December 12, 2022 03:19 PM (NIYa7)
Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2022 03:19 PM (p/6sa)
.........
Dilithium crystals?
Posted by: wth at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (eoQWY)
Yeah...probably more like 12 years....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2022 03:16 PM (XIJ/X)
Closer than the fusion engineers! thanks for the correction
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (wscPk)
I've been wondering if a theromnuclear device would absorb the lithium if the device went off near an EV with lithium batteries.
Posted by: SMOD
H-bombs use Lithium Deuteride, a salt of lithium with deuterium, the isotope of Hydrogen that has a nucleus of one proton and one neutron. The fission bomb triggers the deuterium to undergo fusion.
Years ago, I used to follow Dr. Robert Bussard and his development of his Polywell Fusion reactor. It seemed very promising. And then, Dr. Bussard died of lunch cancer (he was 70 - something). People were carrying on his work, but I don't know what happened to it.
Bussard had worked out how the Polywell reactor would work, and also how you get power out of it. It was elegantly simple in concept, actually.
Posted by: A face in the crowd...... at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: Jimco Industries at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (dFixR)
Posted by: flushed with pride at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (/ux4Y)
I'll write my thesis tonight.
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If you expect to get a PhD for your work, we suggest you include some gay sex.
- University Dissertation Committees everywhere
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2022 03:19 PM (oINRc)
I didn't realize I was supposed to root for the machines in the Terminator movies...
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (LT8iN)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (LT8iN)
Is that still made? It was all I would drink when I was a kid back in the 70's. I think I read the formula was changed at some point, though.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (BTgKJ)
Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (YmhcJ)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:18 PM (LT8iN)
Ah.....didn't spend a whole host of time watching that show. Explains that.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (+sD5M)
my son's profile has picked up so decent followers. he's a soccer goalie.
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 12, 2022 03:14 PM (Mkvkw)
So sorry to hear you won't be having grandchildren.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (zjgNU)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 02:58 PM (sX1BW)
Its renewable! Got to burn something if you want those electrons.
Posted by: Fusion Engineers at December 12, 2022 03:21 PM (3QKfN)
Posted by: Ciampino - let's go at December 12, 2022 03:21 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:16 PM (+sD5M)
There's not a place on earth where it's cold enough to turn LNG into goo.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2022 03:21 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 12, 2022 03:21 PM (flINI)
Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2022 03:19 PM (p/6sa)
Gary Ridgway was a quitter
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at December 12, 2022 03:21 PM (OgrpQ)
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
Michael Crichton
Posted by: Kevin at December 12, 2022 03:21 PM (8023W)
Posted by: red speck at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (gS3OW)
from the sharks obviously.
it's why we don't have fricken sharks with lasers on their heads...
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 12, 2022 03:21 PM (Mkvkw)
Posted by: pookysgirl hopes her favorite Radiation Safety Officer doesn't see this at December 12, 2022 03:22 PM (XKZwp)
Science has increasingly become sloppy and lazy with how they state things. You get statements like "this is 14 million years old" when they don't know that, they simply estimate with best information and it PROBABLY is that old, based on current data.
But you don't get grants and lab space being precise, so... you get the lazy sloppy language.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2022 03:04 PM (0hOvj)
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Actually, that's not fair. Scientists typically DO hedge their statements, because if they didn't, they'd be laughed at by other scientists, but reporters sharpen their comments to make a more dramatic story.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:22 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: red speck at December 12, 2022 03:11 PM (gS3OW)
Fusion is initiated when the pressure forces two atoms of hydrogen together so closely they fuse into Helium, liberating huge amounts of energy.
It is possible to do this with the pressure and heat created by a star's gravitation, or by heating things up really hot other ways.
The hard part is making it controllable. A hydrogen bomb has a surplus of energy for example, but it is hard to use that for much.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2022 03:22 PM (xhaym)
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2022 03:21 PM (BdMk6)
LNG is already basically NG that has been turned into goo...
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2022 03:22 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 03:22 PM (D8mow)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (/EuRN)
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Nobody could have guessed it.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2022 03:22 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (eoQWY)
Yeah...probably more like 12 years....
Posted by: Daniel Lapin
Tritium is the secret ingredient in Nuclear Weapons. It makes the nuclear reaction more efficient, as its fusion adds neutrons to the Plutonium Fission. On the down side? Its decay product, helium makes Nuclear Reactions fizzle out because it adsorbs neutrons.
Posted by: rd at December 12, 2022 03:22 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2022 03:23 PM (AW6rC)
Posted by: Sponge
The NG plants that use piped gas have dewatering processes to avoid ice buildup in cold weather. Freezing dry natural gas requires exceptionally low temperatures.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:23 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: butch at December 12, 2022 03:23 PM (quHKw)
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Have we tried finding a use over Washington DC?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 03:23 PM (sX1BW)
Don't let that bald-headed luggage stealing trans-freak anywhere NEAR it!!
Posted by: flushed with pride
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That influencer guy(?) with the long fingernails can handle the job while Brinton is on leave.
Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at December 12, 2022 03:23 PM (gf7Ez)
Nobody has been there and nobody has sun samples.
It's all made-up bullshit.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:24 PM (LI2tq)
There's not a place on earth where it's cold enough to turn LNG into goo.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2022 03:21 PM (BdMk6)
This is an interesting comment that I will take back to my friend and have him question those involved.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:24 PM (+sD5M)
Don't let that bald-headed luggage stealing trans-freak anywhere NEAR it!!
Posted by: flushed with pride at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (/ux4Y)
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On the contrary, I'd like to see him heft spent fuel rods on his shoulder. Problem solved.
In fact, now that I think about it, maybe he's been doing that, which would explain a lot.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:25 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (eoQWY)
Close... it's 12.32 years.
Funny thing is... the half-life of U235 is just shy of 704M years. Most "science" writers fail to grasp the idea and would rather than 10 pounds of H3 near them than the same amount of U235.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at December 12, 2022 03:25 PM (Vav/d)
Posted by: torabora at December 12, 2022 03:25 PM (FZWRZ)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (eoQWY)
Tritium sights on guns last many years....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2022 03:25 PM (XIJ/X)
Nobody has been there and nobody has sun samples.
It's all made-up bullshit.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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If we just had a spacecraft that could land at night . . .
Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at December 12, 2022 03:25 PM (gf7Ez)
A better use for all that time and money would be figuring out the formula for-
Orange Julius.
Then we could all make it at home and the world would be a better place.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2022 03:25 PM (KLPy8)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:25 PM (LT8iN)
Nobody has been there and nobody has sun samples.
It's all made-up bullshit.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:24 PM (LI2tq)
I have been working unconsciously to instill a strong sense of skepticism with my children.
Every time we see a "dino fact" or "universe fact" I always say, well, that's their best GUESS, not a fact, really. And then illustrate the amount of uncertainty they are guessing from.
I hope this prepares them for this insane world.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (zjgNU)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (iFTx/)
I will read more about it.
Posted by: PG at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (84jHt)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (Q4IgG)
cool info. I wonder if the new "dark energy and dark matter" will change any of those laws of thermodynamics. (because they used to think Big Bang would collapse back on itself, now some "free energy source" force is causing constant acceleration/expansion outward, they think).
Newtonian physics gets warped by relativity (they tell me). But the basic laws hold for most of us mere mortals.
The trick is to use "free energy" like wind or solar, but all the energy to produce those "magic free energy" machines is not free, and the "machines" don't last forever.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (Cus5s)
Neil Breen
https://tinyurl.com/2cuvkrc7
Sabina Hossenfelder
https://tinyurl.com/24ywxxu5
Now, for those of you who have experienced Mr. Breen's filmography, it's all you'll be able to see, too.
Posted by: Movie Moron at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: JM in Florida at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (fPMrg)
The NG plants that use piped gas have dewatering processes to avoid ice buildup in cold weather. Freezing dry natural gas requires exceptionally low temperatures.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:23 PM (lTGtQ)
I will ask again as my info is 3rd hand now and I may've fucked it up in my brain. I'll ask again and see what I missed, messed up or didn't remember quite right.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (+sD5M)
https://tinyurl.com/3n95kafp
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (LI2tq)
Great.
Women will be doomed first. Then the rest of us will be eliminated. Then the deviant queers who run our society will just use the machines to pump out rough trade rent boys for themselves. Maybe occasionally a girl here and there for the ones with outré hetero tendencies. The stronger males will be permitted to reach adulthood and be used as free labor once they're no longer attractive to people like Yoel Roth.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2022 03:19 PM (oINRc)
Lois Bujold wrote a story about a society that use devices like that to replace women - they were militant anti women homosexuals that had a collection of eggs donated by women to used as a genetic base. Some several 100 years later the old eggs were dying and their resupply order went lost.
Anyhow an interesting point was how horrified the man was that reproduction was so cheap on other worlds - how would anyone allow all child creating and rearing costs to be counted as free and gain no tax or social credit for it.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (eoQWY)
I don’t think natural gas turns to goo until you get far colder temperatures than what Texas was subjected to. Like, hundreds of degrees cooler.
What turned off the natural gas plants is that the pumps were connected to the grid. So when the grid in the Permian Basin was assigned a rolling blackout, the pumps stopped, and the flow stopped, and the plants had no fuel.
My understanding from people who work there is that the pumps used to be self-powered—they’re literally pumping a power source, after all. But subsidies and regulations strongly push producers into using the grid rather than their own power.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (EXyHK)
sub-freezing, yes; sub-zero, no.
Posted by: micky at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (3byMq)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at December 12, 2022 03:27 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2022 03:21 PM (BdMk6)
This is an interesting comment that I will take back to my friend and have him question those involved.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:24 PM (+sD5M)
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LNG is mostly methane, which melts at (looks up) -182 C. Pretty nippy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:27 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 12, 2022 03:17 PM (oWBc3)
God and Edward Teller.
Posted by: a.moron at December 12, 2022 03:27 PM (tu3iY)
That’s about 0.11 kWh. That takes into account the power to generate it.
If it lasted an hour. It likely lasted a millisecond or less.
NIF has been described as the most complex piece of machinery ever built by man. I remember colleagues calculating that the lab would never keep all the lasers focused on target before loosing one, but they kept hammering away at it.
But NIF will never be the true path to fusion. Too much of a Rube Goldberg machine. It’s a brute force approach that isn’t “sustainable” as the libs like to say.
The best path would be plasma fusion but that’s hard too. The path to controlling it is complex, and highly nonlinear. Earlier this year googles deep mind successfully kept tokamak fusion (laser fusions competitor) going beyond the nonlinear point calculated That was a real success.
Unlike NIF, it produced a respectable 16 kWh for 5 seconds. Which shows promise for the cheaper more elegant AI/tokamak technology.
Posted by: waveguy at December 12, 2022 03:27 PM (ai2Yq)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM
Tritium half life is about 12.3 years.
Pro tip...don't buy really old surplus compasses.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2022 03:27 PM (YgIxk)
Posted by: The King in the Bugs Bunny cartoon at December 12, 2022 03:27 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Have you ever talked to a reporter? They know more about the Kardashians and Taylor Swift than they know about F. Joe Biden or their own Senators or Congressman. They can barely find where to put the gasoline into their own car, and only know that because almost every gas station is self service.
Posted by: rd at December 12, 2022 03:27 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 12, 2022 03:27 PM (Blz2Y)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 12, 2022 03:27 PM (flINI)
https://tinyurl.com/3n95kafp
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:15 PM (LI2tq)
Great.
Women will be doomed first. Then the rest of us will be eliminated. Then the deviant queers who run our society will just use the machines to pump out rough trade rent boys for themselves. Maybe occasionally a girl here and there for the ones with outré hetero tendencies. The stronger males will be permitted to reach adulthood and be used as free labor once they're no longer attractive to people like Yoel Roth.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2022 03:19 PM (oINRc)
huh, so who knew the future would be Battletech? i hope we get 'mechs soon.
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 12, 2022 03:28 PM (Mkvkw)
Rubber band powered cars!
Posted by: Jennifer Granholm at December 12, 2022 03:28 PM (v0R5T)
....
I think Aldous Huxley also wrote a novel that involved lab grown babies.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:28 PM (LI2tq)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2022 03:19 PM (oINRc)
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You make this sound like a bad thing...
Posted by: Brave New World at December 12, 2022 03:28 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 12, 2022 03:29 PM (CecP5)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:29 PM (+sD5M)
the Sun is made up of two compounds which don't exist on Earth,
Glowium and Heatergon.
This has been known for years. Fusion can't happen here people.
The Science is settled.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2022 03:29 PM (KLPy8)
Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (wscPk)
Not interested in the juice.
Just get the towel and the oranges, Lilly.
Posted by: Bobo Justice at December 12, 2022 03:29 PM (xhaym)
If the first law of thermodynamics says you can't win, then the Second Law of Thermodynamics says you can't even break even.
....
You can't build a self perpetuating machine. But fusion isn't that. It's putting fuel into a furnace. You can get lots of power out of that.
When you have to make the fuel then that first statement comes into play. You can't split water atoms to get hydrogen then oxidize the hydrogen back into water and come out ahead.
But if you make the hydrogen into tritium you can maybe have a net gain in power.
Posted by: TexasDan at December 12, 2022 03:29 PM (9n12B)
Orange Julius.
Then we could all make it at home and the world would be a better place.
Posted by: naturalfake
1 can frozen orange juice
1 can water
4 scoops vanilla ice cream
2 handfuls of ice
Put ingredients into a blender and run on setting 4 for 1 minute.
You're welcome.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:29 PM (lTGtQ)
Bonuses for everyone! Awards galore!
It's what the Communists SAY happened -- not what actually happened that matters . ...... like the new , improved Dominion controlled 'elections' where the Communists often receive more ' votes' than voters available to ' vote'.
Vote fusion if you will.
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at December 12, 2022 03:29 PM (wReBR)
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What is the purpose of a 1 iron?
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (D8mow)
Rubber band powered cars!
Posted by: Jennifer Granholm at December 12, 2022 03:28 PM (v0R5T)
My uncle once built a rubber band powered model plane that few over 2 miles.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (+sD5M)
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SMOD has been a disappointment, but Canada now has a service for you.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (Cus5s)
I am very suspicious that after all these years of dark matter / energy / whatever there is no explanation about what it is / might be and how it works and they don't even seem to be thinking of one. Look Dark Matter is needed to make Galaxies work. On Look, here's a galaxy that *doesn't* have any. Cool, right?
Quantum Mechanics was odd enough, but in about 20 years they had the basic mechanics down and could work through the implications.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (eoQWY)
Glowium and Heatergon.
This has been known for years. Fusion can't happen here people.
The Science is settled.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2022 03:29 PM (KLPy
I heard the undercover Feds power their cars with Glowium.
Posted by: Wally at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:28 PM (LI2tq)
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Although they're delicious, there is no substitute for the real thing
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (flINI)
Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (ZdaMQ)
Then we could all make it at home and the world would be a better place.
Posted by: naturalfake
1 can frozen orange juice
1 can water
4 scoops vanilla ice cream
2 handfuls of ice
Put ingredients into a blender and run on setting 4 for 1 minute.
You're welcome.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:29 PM (lTGtQ)
I'm very intrigued by this.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:31 PM (+sD5M)
I tried for years with several associates to secure funding for him to mass produce his technology, but never got any serious bites. Nobody believes such a thing is possible, but I sawnit in action and it was real. Sad that the tech will go to the grave with him.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 12, 2022 03:31 PM (yRThY)
sub-freezing, yes; sub-zero, no.
Posted by: micky
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Ahem.
Posted by: Amarillo at December 12, 2022 03:31 PM (gf7Ez)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (zjgNU)
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This. Those assertions are not really science, as they are generally unfalsifiable. Certain fields - geology and astronomy leap to mind - are purely observational, as no controlled experiments can be done.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:32 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Bobo Justice at December 12, 2022 03:29 PM (xhaym)
But Bobo, I won't shit right for a month!
Posted by: Lilly, Grifting Whore at December 12, 2022 03:32 PM (Spg0+)
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (D8mow)
To crush your golf game before your enemies, and to cause you to lament like a woman.
Posted by: Conan the Golfer at December 12, 2022 03:32 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at December 12, 2022 03:25 PM (gf7Ez)
There's a team already working on that. Reassigned from keeping Guam from sinking.
Posted by: Erik In Texas at December 12, 2022 03:32 PM (aGGj6)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:28 PM (LI2tq)
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Although they're delicious, there is no substitute for the real thing
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (flINI)
That's pretty easy. Stick a pregnant woman in a lab...wait some months.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:32 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (0R0Vd)
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (D8mow)
To crush your golf game before your enemies, and to cause you to lament like a woman.
Posted by: Conan the Golfer at December 12, 2022 03:32 PM (FJYfm)
John Daly had a 0 iron in his bag for a spell.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (+sD5M)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (F5ekr)
Posted by: Tom at December 12, 2022 03:09 PM (xUK01)
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Them's fightin' words!
But we are in complete agreement on this one.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (xxG/v)
Glowium and Heatergon.
This has been known for years. Fusion can't happen here people.
The Science is settled.
Posted by: naturalfake
But, Mr. Smartypants, if we had Unobtanium & Dilithium Crystals, we could go at night and get some.
Sheesh!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (9uCBG)
And I am pretty skeptical of how even if everything works you get the heat out of the system in a sustained operation to keep it from melting everything after a few seconds to minutes of running.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (eoQWY)
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That's been my question for ever, particularly the Tokamak process with the magnetic bottle - how do ypu transfer the heat to an externally connected medium?
Posted by: Ciampino - runs for a microsecond then explodes at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (qfLjt)
This method can also be used to trap hobos, with minimal damage to the hides.
Posted by: Failure At gp Juncture at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (24fqN)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:28 PM (LI2tq)
Turn those machines back on !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (LT8iN)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (D8mow)
To crush your golf game before your enemies, and to cause you to lament like a woman.
Posted by: Conan the Golfer at December 12, 2022 03:32 PM (FJYfm)
I was never good at hitting with woods. Once I somehow got the driver to make the ball go straight up.
I did pretty well with a driving iron though.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:34 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Ice-T at December 12, 2022 03:34 PM (HwoXV)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:32 PM (eoQWY)
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What?
Posted by: A lab at December 12, 2022 03:34 PM (flINI)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:34 PM (LI2tq)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at December 12, 2022 03:34 PM (Vav/d)
Posted by: Scott 1M at December 12, 2022 03:34 PM (O9uxk)
They are a good substitute for tire irons.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (LT8iN)
Confirmed.
Posted by: Elin Woods at December 12, 2022 03:35 PM (+sD5M)
We need a power source based on stupidium, of which we have a super-abundance.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:35 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Ciampino - runs for a microsecond then explodes at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (qfLjt)
Heat would radiate out to other absorption mediums...but everything else would get damn hot.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:35 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: fd at December 12, 2022 03:35 PM (sn5EN)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (+sD5M)
Perhaps that explains why he drank so much.
Posted by: Conan the Golfer at December 12, 2022 03:35 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (D8mow)
To crush your golf game before your enemies, and to cause you to lament like a woman.
Posted by: Conan the Golfer at December 12, 2022 03:32 PM (FJYfm)
There was a time a one iron was all I could hit off the tee. I was known around the course as the guy with no woods. In the woods plenty but didn't carry any.
Posted by: Javems at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (AmoqO)
The Science is settled.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2022 03:29 PM (KLPy
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Why was I so stupid as to read the other comments?
Posted by: JM in Florida at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (fPMrg)
I've seen the retards driving on the roads these days. I don't want them sporting a suitcase sized fusion generator with plasma temps hitting in the realm of 100 Million Celsius while they balance a bottle of Thunderbird in one hand and a blunt in the other. That just seems like common sense.
Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (mnKug)
I did pretty well with a driving iron though.
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Use a 5 iron. You will max your iron distance. As I said, what is the purpose of a 1 iron. Dittos for 2 and 3 iron.
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (D8mow)
Guess where the overwhelming majority of commercially available hydrogen comes from?
The petrochemical industry.
Save Gaia. Drill for more oil. Fucking morons.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (/EuRN)
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I don't think they use hydrogen, instead more likely will be tritium or Deuterium.
Posted by: Ciampino -- runs for a microsecond then explodes at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (D8mow)
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"Why is everyone looking at me?" - Michael Skakel
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (YqDXo)
The whole point of the Lawrence experiment was to see if they could do all of these ignition events and actually have more power come out than went in for ignition.
Posted by: mikethemoose at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (T/vhV)
sub-freezing, yes; sub-zero, no.
Posted by: micky
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Ahem.
Posted by: Amarillo
-13 Dalhart has entered the chat. (Feb 2021)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (9uCBG)
First it'll be the robowomb. Next thing you know, they'll be poking holes in Alphabet Corporation T-1000s' condoms when they're on leave from enslaving humans, and suing them for child support. We'll have a hundred million braindead biomechanical androids sucking up as much Bitcoin from the welfare system as they can.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2022 03:37 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Ciampino - runs for a microsecond then explodes at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (qfLjt)
It will eventually be solved with the intelligent use of duck tape and Gorilla Glue.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2022 03:37 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Sponge
If it is too thick, add some milk until you get the consistency right.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:37 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Movie Moron at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (JCZqz)
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There's a reason why I said I like most of Sabine's videos.
She did one that I admit I'm oversimplifying when I sum it: "There is no freewill, 'cause Differential Equations".
Apparently, Euler had no choice but to emit Differential Equations into the world. People had no choice but to accept the validity of DiffEQ, and thus, we can't really tell how fit they are to measure the Universe, because we couldn't not describe the Universe through DiffEQ.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2022 03:37 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Puddinhead
For removing the windows in Tiger Wood's SUV.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2022 03:37 PM (9uCBG)
Posted by: wth at December 12, 2022 03:38 PM (v0R5T)
To embarrass other golfers using those $500 fat drivers to hit the ball just beyond the ladies' tee.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 12, 2022 03:38 PM (HmZuC)
Posted by: Javems at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (AmoqO)
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I didn't wear golf cleats, I wore hiking boots, for the same reason.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:38 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Failure At gp Juncture at December 12, 2022 03:38 PM (24fqN)
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 03:30 PM (D8mow)
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"Why is everyone looking at me?" - Michael Skakel
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (YqDXo)
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HAHAHAHA
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 12, 2022 03:38 PM (flINI)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2022 03:39 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (0R0Vd)
Because right wingers didn't do it.
Not that it ought to stop the FBI...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 12, 2022 03:39 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: wth at December 12, 2022 03:38 PM (v0R5T)
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Only if I can take some fuckin' beagles with me!
Posted by: Dr. Anthony Fraudci at December 12, 2022 03:39 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:37 PM (lTGtQ)
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Can confirm
Posted by: Peter North at December 12, 2022 03:39 PM (flINI)
We've been gaslighted forever, and you can't get people to see the truth even when you tell them.
The whole thing is an op.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:39 PM (LI2tq)
So you're saying the Future is Female.
Posted by: Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose at December 12, 2022 03:39 PM (HwoXV)
sub-freezing, yes; sub-zero, no.
Posted by: micky
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Ahem.
Posted by: Amarillo
-13 Dalhart has entered the chat. (Feb 2021)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (9uCBG)
Yup. It can get pretty damn cold here in the southern plains.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2022 03:39 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:29 PM (+sD5M)
I'd shove my Parmesan Garlic Triscuits into my USB port for you, but I think it'd clog up your system even further.
Posted by: pookysgirl, checking alternate heat sources at December 12, 2022 03:39 PM (XKZwp)
Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2022 03:40 PM (ZdaMQ)
Posted by: Ziba at December 12, 2022 03:40 PM (4h9M3)
Posted by: Javems at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM
What a coincidence! That's what my wife's boyfriend calls me, and I don't even golf!
Posted by: David French at December 12, 2022 03:40 PM (JCZqz)
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Isn't Dalhart closer to the Canadian border than the Gulf Coast?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 12, 2022 03:40 PM (sX1BW)
Every time we see a "dino fact" or "universe fact" I always say, well, that's their best GUESS, not a fact, really. And then illustrate the amount of uncertainty they are guessing from.
I hope this prepares them for this insane world.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2022 03:26 PM (zjgNU)
https://youtu.be/w2ppyMUlXfM?t=30
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at December 12, 2022 03:41 PM (Vav/d)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at December 12, 2022 03:41 PM (OZjDX)
Use a 5 iron. You will max your iron distance. As I said, what is the purpose of a 1 iron. Dittos for 2 and 3 iron.
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM
The golf pros hit 1 and 2 irons when they can't hit their driver, or they are hitting their driver 350 yards in the wrong direction.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2022 03:41 PM (QOU0Y)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2022 03:41 PM (twB0H)
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2022 03:21 PM (BdMk6)
This is an interesting comment that I will take back to my friend and have him question those involved.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:24 PM (+sD5M)
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LNG is mostly methane, which melts at (looks up) -182 C. Pretty nippy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:27 PM (YqDXo)
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Natural Gas contains impurities, like butane, propane, and other hydrocarbons. Too many of those can gum up any natural gas compression or metering process when it is very cold. They can actually freeze up and plug the gas lines if it gets cold enough and enough impurities both.
Also have you seen power plants in the South? They don't even put the power turbines inside a building. How well will they start up in freezing temperatures if the lubricating oil is too cold? Turbine Bearings support hundreds of tons of rapidly rotating steel and are really touchy.
Posted by: rd at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Failure At gp Juncture at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (24fqN)
Posted by: Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose at December 12, 2022 03:39 PM (HwoXV)
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The world ends with two women yelling, "FINE!" at each other. And then the mushroom clouds start.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Biden's Dog, Front-Line Commenter Wannabee, at December 12, 2022 03:02 PM (joGaA)
Actually, if you buy the current iteration of the Farnsworth Fusor, you can do that. It's a big net energy negative, but fusion does occur, and neutrons are emitted. Which is why they make them: to be used as a neutron source.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (tkR6S)
I'm certain it is not far off.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (qoGsy)
Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (mnKug)
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I've played enough Fallout 3 and 4 to know how that can go...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Lee Trevino at December 12, 2022 03:43 PM (HwoXV)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 12, 2022 03:43 PM (Blz2Y)
Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2022 03:43 PM (wscPk)
Posted by: Ciampino -- runs for a microsecond then explodes at December 12, 2022 03:36 PM (qfLjt)
Deuterium is an isotope of Hydrogen. You filter it out of the regular stuff. Possibly some tritium too, but likely you have to make that from Deuterium.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:43 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 12, 2022 03:43 PM (M+Lyo)
I'd shove my Parmesan Garlic Triscuits into my USB port for you, but I think it'd clog up your system even further.
Posted by: pookysgirl, checking alternate heat sources at December 12, 2022 03:39 PM (XKZwp)
The thought is greatly appreciated, however no food allowed in the datacenter.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:44 PM (+sD5M)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (YqDXo)
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Would that be considered a whimper?
Posted by: T. S. Elliot, Crossing Fingers at December 12, 2022 03:44 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: wth at December 12, 2022 03:44 PM (v0R5T)
And that's not all. In addition to the Qlaser and Qmagnetic you have to input, there is the problem of transferring the released energy into a working medium, typically water, to produce steam that can be used in a turbine generator, with all of its supporting systems, the lighting and auxiliary systems for the containment structure, and so on, before you ever get to the break even point.
I applaud advancements in fusion, but no need to oversell it.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 12, 2022 03:44 PM (hgD8w)
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Butane freezes at -140 to -130 C, depending on the isomer. So, again, pretty nippy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:44 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2022 03:44 PM (twB0H)
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The youtuber Practical Engineering went throgh the Texas powet outage and put together a good video: "What really happened..."
Posted by: JM in Florida at December 12, 2022 03:45 PM (fPMrg)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2022 03:45 PM (9UlRk)
I'm certain it is not far off.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (qoGsy)
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Pfffft
Posted by: Rumplestiltskin at December 12, 2022 03:45 PM (flINI)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Would that be considered a whimper?
Posted by: T. S. Elliot
I thought Elliot's thing was the women come and go, speaking of Michelangelo.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2022 03:45 PM (qoGsy)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (qoGsy)
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So, breath after you 'bated.
Posted by: Frito at December 12, 2022 03:45 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:46 PM (LI2tq)
Sounds like the story of Henry Moray.
Joseph Newman from Alabama had a different energy machine
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 12, 2022 03:46 PM (3hSHB)
I'm certain it is not far off.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (qoGsy)
........
It's actually easy, but first you have to turn the lead into Bitcoin.
Posted by: wth at December 12, 2022 03:46 PM (v0R5T)
I'm certain it is not far off.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (qoGsy)
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Would you settle for turning gold into lead? Because I think they do that routinely, every funding period.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:46 PM (YqDXo)
I'm certain it is not far off.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (qoGsy)
I can tell you from experience, don't start fucking around with Philosopher's Stones.
Posted by: Edward Elric at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (HwoXV)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (twB0H)
Posted by: x at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (bcOq4)
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The earth's magnetic field is ~ 0.4 G. A typical refrigerator magnet is ~100 G.
'Nuff said.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: rd at December 12, 2022 03:42 PM (Z32m1)
The engine lube problem is probably what TX natural gas plants have. If it gets cold enough (below zero), lube will have the consistency of hard tar.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Ziba at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (4h9M3)
Joseph Newman from Alabama had a different energy machine
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 12, 2022 03:46 PM
You're saying that's a Moray?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2022 03:48 PM (YgIxk)
The golf pros hit 1 and 2 irons when they can't hit their driver, or they are hitting their driver 350 yards in the wrong direction.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2022 03:41 PM (QOU0Y)
I could hit a 5 iron, years ago, 225 to 230. I have an older Ping 2 iron that I hit slightly shorter than that. I carried it, but there was no reason to.
The 3 iron wasn't an option as I couldn't hit that thing to save my life.
NOW, I occasionally hit the 3 iron 220, but that's rare.
I AM old now, so I don't turn like I used to.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:48 PM (+sD5M)
Posted by: Eric Swalwell at December 12, 2022 03:48 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
I told my wife this. The Saker was predicting this a while back, since Russians think of the Serbs as their little brothers. Beating up the little brother is a time honored way to get the older brother to come out and fight.
Posted by: Justin Castreau at December 12, 2022 03:48 PM (ai2Yq)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:46 PM (YqDXo)
Turning chicken salad into chicken shit. Making silk purses into sows ears. The reverse Midas touch.
Posted by: Mangling the metaphors at December 12, 2022 03:48 PM (HwoXV)
Posted by: JM in Florida at December 12, 2022 03:48 PM (fPMrg)
Posted by: x at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (bcOq4)
Gay men and dudes that want to bang the 1998 version of her?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 12, 2022 03:48 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: x at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (bcOq4)
***
You can bet your bottom dollar it wasn't me...
Posted by: Jesus at December 12, 2022 03:49 PM (flINI)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 12, 2022 03:49 PM (LT8iN)
Posted by: x at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (bcOq4)
She has that one song that's been downloaded more than any other song on earth, I think.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:49 PM (+sD5M)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2022 03:49 PM (9UlRk)
Only then can the "real science" start.
Oh, and only allow blacks, women, and trannies to work on it. By committee. From home. Via Zoom.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 12, 2022 03:49 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2022 03:33 PM (0R0Vd)
Because right wingers didn't do it.
Not that it ought to stop the FBI...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water
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They would be blaming me, if I was still alive.
Posted by: Richard Jewell at December 12, 2022 03:49 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: polynikes at December 12, 2022 03:49 PM (dQoNW)
Posted by: Justin Castreau at December 12, 2022 03:48 PM (ai2Yq)
The sun never sets on American intervention.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:50 PM (LI2tq)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM
That's rather gauss to point out.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2022 03:50 PM (a3Q+t)
Otherwise, they'd melt the glass to a sufficient degree that the amplifiers would no longer work
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 12, 2022 03:50 PM (xxG/v)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 12, 2022 03:50 PM (ykeLU)
Posted by: Lola at December 12, 2022 03:50 PM (NIYa7)
Posted by: x at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (bcOq4)
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The Archbishop of Christmas?
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2022 03:50 PM (krQz2)
NOW, I occasionally hit the 3 iron 220, but that's rare.
I AM old now, so I don't turn like I used to.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December
My husband and I are friends with a golf pro (he's a kid) and that guy has the best turn and hits it a mile. I've played with him and he gets on every par 5 in 2 and 3 putts, he's a head case.
When I grow up I want to swing like him.
I can't hit a 2 iron. Never could.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2022 03:51 PM (QOU0Y)
Burning them returns some of the carbon to the surface to be recycled. Drill baby drill. Hydrocarbons are carbon neutral.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2022 03:51 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 12, 2022 03:51 PM (PWvcU)
https://bit.ly/3WdcEMu
Looks like they have word pairs they consider to be highly corollated to claims of ballot fraud. I'm guessing there would be a score attached to different word pairs or phrases and there would be a threshold for de-boosting or lowering visibility of the tweet.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2022 03:51 PM (eyxn4)
She has that one song that's been downloaded more than any other song on earth, I think.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:49 PM (+sD5M)
She is starting to look like Santa Claus?
Posted by: anon at December 12, 2022 03:51 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: x at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (bcOq4)
She has that one song that's been downloaded more than any other song on earth, I think.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:49 PM
But not the song that has been most listened to, even if unintentionally...
Posted by: Rick Astley at December 12, 2022 03:51 PM (JCZqz)
Ahem. E = mc^2
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2022 03:39 PM (a3Q+t)
That does not violate the law. That equation just states that there is a tremendous amount of energy stored in matter.
Fission converts some amount of matter to some lesser amount of matter and a lot of energy. It does not, however, produce energy from nothing. TANSTAAFL
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at December 12, 2022 03:52 PM (Vav/d)
Posted by: Ziba at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (4h9M3)
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I think that when I hear the UN or UK talk about the "High Commissioner" of something. Who's the "Low Commissioner?" If there isn't one, shouldn't the former just be called "THE Commissioner?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:52 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2022 03:53 PM (twB0H)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2022 03:53 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:46 PM (LI2tq)
do what now?
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 12, 2022 03:53 PM (Mkvkw)
Biomass is burning trees for heat. Just like the dark ages.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2022 03:03 PM (lTGtQ)
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Now biomass could also be burning bodies, particularly fat ones (see auto-combustion). Fat farms would acquire a new meaning.
Posted by: Ciampino --- runs for a microsecond then explodes at December 12, 2022 03:53 PM (qfLjt)
If you talk to physicists privately, they will admit that the "Law of conservation of energy" is wrong on at least cosmic scales. The problem is that the cosmic red shift means energy is constantly being destroyed; the photons being emitted contain more energy than the red shifted photons we receive. (The shorter the wavelength of light, the more energy in each photon.) In addition, an accelerated rate of expansion (dark energy) can't possibly conserve energy.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 12, 2022 03:53 PM (CecP5)
Posted by: polynikes at December 12, 2022 03:49 PM (dQoNW)
We are pretty annoyed at alchemists and people who supported phlogiston too.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:53 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 12, 2022 03:51 PM (PWvcU)
Isn't that the back story to the movie About a Boy?
( man what an unfortunate title for a movie these days)
Posted by: polynikes at December 12, 2022 03:54 PM (dQoNW)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 12, 2022 03:50 PM
You can't run a half cup of oxidane through the electrolysis apparatus for him?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2022 03:54 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: x at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (bcOq4)
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Some judge said "So sorry, Mariah", not on my watch
Posted by: JM in Florida at December 12, 2022 03:54 PM (fPMrg)
For those of you who don't follow college football, Leach is the coolest and funniest coach in all of major college sports, bar none. He's one of the good guys and it would be a real tragedy to lose him.
https://tinyurl.com/5bta4ukr
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 12, 2022 03:54 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:53 PM (eoQWY)
You think everything is alchemy when it's not.
Posted by: polynikes at December 12, 2022 03:54 PM (dQoNW)
Posted by: Rick Astley
I wonder if Astley's kids know what 'Rick-rolled' is. Seriously - kids can easily ignore the elephant in the room.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2022 03:54 PM (qoGsy)
Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2022 03:51 PM (Cus5s)
Carbon Dioxide is Plant Food.
Water + Carbon Dioxide + Sunlight + Chlorophyl = Growing Plants + Oxygen
Posted by: anon at December 12, 2022 03:55 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Edward Elric at December 12, 2022 03:47 PM (HwoXV)
I need to watch Brotherhood sometime. The kid who did Al's voice in the original FMA still does voice acting, and you almost can't tell it's him, except when he gets excited and almost squeaky.
Posted by: pookysgirl, slightly otaku at December 12, 2022 03:55 PM (XKZwp)
I AM old now, so I don't turn like I used to.
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That's why they built woods. Softer swing with a longer reach. My Dad carried 5 or 6 woods. I would play with irons cuz I was young a strong. If I swing an iron now like I did then I can't make a fist with my left hand a day later.
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 03:55 PM (D8mow)
Posted by: polynikes at December 12, 2022 03:49 PM (dQoNW)
It's not anger at the attempts, it's anger at the lies about what's been achieved, and lies about the prospects for near-term useful results.
I hope fusion can be made useful, but I've been hearing about it being 10 or 15 years away from being harnessed, since the 1960s, so by now I'm a bit skeptical.
Posted by: a.moron at December 12, 2022 03:55 PM (tu3iY)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:48 PM (+sD5M)
Last time I swung a club I fell down.
Posted by: Javems at December 12, 2022 03:56 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 12, 2022 03:56 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2022 03:50 PM (krQz2)
I'm thinking maybe it was King of the Popes
Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2022 03:56 PM (p/6sa)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2022 03:53 PM (guGkK)
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Yeah, if you want to compress the fusion fuel, just put it underneath a footbridge they designed and await developments.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:56 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Lola at December 12, 2022 03:56 PM (NIYa7)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 03:49 PM
She sang Jingle Bells?
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2022 03:57 PM (BdMk6)
TX had temperatures below 0 in 2021.
shuffling my way out of the room and...
on to Buffalo
Posted by: micky at December 12, 2022 03:57 PM (3byMq)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:46 PM (LI2tq)
do what now?
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 12, 2022 03:53 PM (Mkvkw)
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*Consults FAFO chart*
I think we find out.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2022 03:57 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Scott 1M
Just 192 of them. With mirrors and lenses that cost a small fortune and are constantly being burned up.
NIF is a Rube Goldberg machine and it will never be useful for fusion.
Posted by: Justin Castreau at December 12, 2022 03:57 PM (ai2Yq)
Posted by: Megthered at December 12, 2022 03:57 PM (f1xtl)
Posted by: wth at December 12, 2022 03:57 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 12, 2022 03:53 PM (Mkvkw)
NATO getting ready to start shooting Serbs.
Elon hasn't tweeted about it yet, but as soon as he does it will be news.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:57 PM (LI2tq)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:57 PM (YqDXo)
Isn't that the back story to the movie About a Boy?
( man what an unfortunate title for a movie these days)
Posted by: polynikes at December 12, 2022 03:54 PM (dQoNW)
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Yeah, and a shame that uncles and grandfathers have to concerned about appearances of being with the young uns
Posted by: JM in Florida at December 12, 2022 03:57 PM (fPMrg)
I lost all faith in science when phrenology was discredited.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2022 03:58 PM (guGkK)
IOW they may have actually had a new energy out of the reaction. Going from a microsecond of net energy fusion to any kind of useable generator for the grid sounds like a 20 year project with a serious society focused on trying to solve it to me. IOW our current clown car world aint never getting there.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 12, 2022 03:58 PM (3cGpq)
When underlings of the fucking President do it in their official capacity as underlings, it's an embarrassment.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2022 03:58 PM (9UlRk)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:53 PM (eoQWY)
You think everything is alchemy when it's not.
Posted by: polynikes at December 12, 2022 03:54 PM (dQoNW)
As stated at the top, these approaches have been in progress at the same point for generations. It might just be that some different use might be found for the billions burned on this.
Look how stagnant NASA got after its first heady years as a program. It basically took Elon and private interest to get it off the deck where NASA put it.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:58 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 12, 2022 03:58 PM (oWBc3)
I lost all faith in science when phrenology was discredited.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2022 03:58 PM (guGkK)
Its because of that bump pattern on your head you feel that way.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 03:59 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 12, 2022 03:59 PM (Blz2Y)
Posted by: Mr. Fabulist at December 12, 2022 04:00 PM (UhA8S)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2022 04:00 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: fd at December 12, 2022 04:00 PM (sn5EN)
__________________
Now there is a woman that made it all on her own natural talents and dating the head of Sony Records, but mostly dating the head of Sony Records.
Posted by: rd at December 12, 2022 04:00 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 12, 2022 04:00 PM (oWBc3)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2022 03:57 PM (YqDXo)
First you use a powerful array of lasers to smash Koreans and Mexicans together....
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 04:00 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 12, 2022 04:00 PM (Mkvkw)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 12, 2022 04:00 PM (p+1gI)
Bussard had worked out how the Polywell reactor would work, and also how you get power out of it. It was elegantly simple in concept, actually.
Posted by: A face in the crowd...... at December 12, 2022 03:20 PM (vcOmj)
I used to follow that, too. Bussard was a real genius, and in no way any kind of crank. Last I heard, he and his team figured that if a commercial-scale Polywell reactor were built, it would work just fine. But smaller ones can't work at a net positive, because of scaling factors. And IIRC, the Polywell design took the energy out of the reaction by magnetic induction, so generated electric current directly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2022 04:01 PM (tkR6S)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 12, 2022 03:51 PM (PWvcU)
I would LOVE to see those, FWIW.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 04:01 PM (+sD5M)
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 12, 2022 03:58 PM (oWBc3)
The "You mad, bro?" attitude.
Posted by: a.moron at December 12, 2022 04:01 PM (tu3iY)
Elon hasn't tweeted about it yet, but as soon as he does it will be news.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 12, 2022 03:57 PM (LI2tq)
Whose troops are going to get the duty? Luxemburg? Belgium?
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 04:01 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: fd at December 12, 2022 04:02 PM (sn5EN)
Posted by: Tom Morrow at December 12, 2022 04:02 PM (U5zPf)
It's the vax. People down here who are vaxxed are getting sick unable to fight off major and even very minor things.
Posted by: It's over at December 12, 2022 04:02 PM (YlPX8)
After seeing what Twitter has stored away on the guy.
...
Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 12, 2022 03:01 PM (5p7BC)
We certainly live in interesting times, don't we.
Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 12, 2022 04:02 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 12, 2022 03:51 PM (PWvcU)
I would LOVE to see those, FWIW.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 12, 2022 04:01 PM (+sD5M)
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I would like to try them out. My brand is on the line!
Posted by: Mike Lindell at December 12, 2022 04:02 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: x at December 12, 2022 04:02 PM (bcOq4)
Posted by: Mr. Fabulist
What would the temperature be if we handcuffed three or four women together all experiencing hot flashes? In theory, they could easily reach 10,000 K.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2022 04:03 PM (qoGsy)
Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 12, 2022 04:05 PM (FUBfX)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2022 04:03 PM (qoGsy)
That's why we leave the toilet seats up. Warms the house for hours when they get mad about it.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 12, 2022 04:05 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 12, 2022 03:59 PM (Blz2Y)
Home of the Crossed Swords.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2022 04:06 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 12, 2022 04:07 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 04:08 PM (D8mow)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2022 04:09 PM (twB0H)
Posted by: Durak Kazyol at December 12, 2022 04:09 PM (4zxRq)
Same reason globull warmening is so popular: MONEY in very large amounts. There are many scientists deeply entrenched in the status quo, if they admit they are wrong they lose their falsely acquired status, and they can't get grants. That is why skepticism in its worst incarnations, is designed to make progress non existent, or at least very slow. It is not to "Protect the integrity of science", it is to protect the scientist's rice bowls.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 12, 2022 04:11 PM (CecP5)
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 12, 2022 03:58 PM (oWBc3)
Tone and intent matters. It's all in how you do it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 12, 2022 04:12 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2022 04:12 PM (twB0H)
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 12, 2022 04:08 PM (D8mow)
And let all the sap run out?
I'm assuming, of course, the center of the Earth is the strategic maple syrup reserve.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 12, 2022 04:13 PM (xcxpd)
It's not skepticism I'm talking about. It's the declarative statements that something can't be done.
At least it's not a continued discussion on hating some Christmas songs.
Posted by: polynikes at December 12, 2022 04:14 PM (dQoNW)
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Posted by: Ciampino - kitties love lasers at December 12, 2022 04:17 PM (qfLjt)
Your NASA buddy with the super generator probably stole it from Area 51 and couldn’t replicate it. I feel his pain and hear his rage.
Seriously though, if it had worked all he had to do was set it up in multiple locations. if he’s dead now I advise you to go get it and the horde here will find it at the next mome
Posted by: Justin Castreau at December 12, 2022 04:20 PM (ai2Yq)
Posted by: fd at December 12, 2022 03:35 PM (sn5EN)
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Since Fauci IS the self-anointed The Science (TM), snopes.com rated this as "mostly true."
Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 12, 2022 04:29 PM (E4ybN)
Posted by: Mirror Universe Phill Collins at December 12, 2022 04:46 PM (xk3M4)
Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2022 06:04 PM (xwOj+)
You understand it wrong. This is inertial confinement based fusion, not plasma based. No magnets are used, only lasers. Though no doubt there is some loss converting electricity into laser output.
Posted by: Ed at December 12, 2022 06:05 PM (fYoJ2)
Laser inertial confinement
Magnetic confinement (tokamak)
You don't do both at the same time. Laser inertial confinement beams a bunch of high-powered lasers at the target pellet from all directions, this compresses it, the compression heats it, the compression and heat get it to the point where some of the material can fuse.
Tokamaks take a plasma and pinch it periodically to do the same thing.
But you don't use both at the same time as they're different methods of doing the same thing.
Posted by: Agammamon at December 12, 2022 06:09 PM (pVh/l)
As if these mother fuckers have any idea what "powers the sun".
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Posted by: Alicia Dickerson at December 12, 2022 10:39 PM (6gHzP)
Energy is stored over a period of 60 seconds in 3,840 high-voltage capacitors before being released in a 400-microsecond burst."
The headline-making shot generated about 2.5 million joules total energy of various types (not just thermal). This is less than 1% of the energy used to drive the laser pulse.
The need to cool the optics between shots to prevent optical distortion leading to hotspots that would damage the optics, limits NIF to fewer than a handful of max power shots per day.
Neglecting other losses (such as throwing away nearly 100 times the energy it produces), the 2.5MJ output is equivalent to about 25W over 24 hours.
To be scaled to commercial power plant levels, that output would need to be scaled up about seven orders of magnitude.
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