When paradise isn't paradise anymore

This essay is a little dated, but for some reason, it has received some attention in December. Have you ever been to Coronado Island? It really can be close to paradise there. Too bad that support for freedom of speech is waning at the University of San Diego School of Law:

I fell in love with the place my first week there. I was a Visiting Professor at the University of San Diego School of Law, taking a sabbatical from my home institution, the University of Queensland in Australia. That was back in January of 2013. My wife and I were to spend the first half of that year in San Diego and then, as we are both native-born Canadians, I had a second sabbatical post lined up at a university in Toronto. Of course, I knew back then that USD had some of America's best-known scholars of the theory of constitutional interpretation known as "originalism." I'd been invited to a few of their conferences already, and I had met Professors Larry Alexander, Maimon Schwarzschild, and Steven Smith at symposia and conferences in Australia.

It wasn't just the fact we walked out our door and ten seconds later were walking or jogging on one of the best beaches in America. Nor was it that an old-fashioned, single-speed granny bike, basket and all, could get you anywhere you wanted on Coronado. . .
All those factors were just icing on the cake, however. What really made my sabbatical visit were the academics at the USD law school. They were smart and nice, and very hospitable. Perhaps that is not all that unusual at any law school, but what I had not really expected was the wide range of views I found across the faculty. Say this sotto voce, and outside the earshot of any present-day university administrator, but the USD law school even had a critical mass of what you might classify as "conservative legal thinkers." As someone who had done his law degree in Canada, a Masters at the LSE in London, has taught around the anglosphere, and has seen first-hand the collapse of viewpoint diversity on campuses around the anglosphere, this was wholly unforeseen. In fact, with about a quarter of the then USD law faculty being right-of-centre types in all their various manifestations, I soon learned that the 2013 USD was probably the most conservative law school in the US (with the possible exception of George Mason, though there the iconoclasts are mostly libertarians). But everyone seemed to get along. Each Friday there was a staff seminar, and these crossed the gamut of topics and viewpoints and were excellent.

A quarter of the faculty were right-of-center??? Unheard of!

Things were changing by his second sabbatical in 2019.

When I got there, I learned that what you might describe as the conservative wing of the law school was now largely being kept off key law school committees, most importantly the hiring committee. For me, the 2019 sabbatical was as excellent as the one six years before. But I sensed this island of comparative tolerance for iconoclastic, nonconformist, dissident--save time and call it "conservative"--viewpoints had noticeably shrunk. And if future hires were to be judged through the prism of "diversity and inclusion" and not on straight-up merit, well, you could guess how many conservatives would be hired. The USD law school would slowly become like all the other 200-odd accredited US law schools where Democrat-donating and voting law profs outnumber Republicans by double figures to one. This little sanctuary of open-mindedness would wither and die.

2022:

A few weeks ago, I learned that some of the stalwarts of the USD law school, well-known and long-standing professors of law who certainly could not be described as "progressives," had all put in their notice to take up the three-year retirement option. USD was losing Larry Alexander. Losing Steve Smith. Losing former dean Kevin Cole. Losing Gail Heriot. All of them had endured enough. Yes, there are some nonconformists still there who haven't announced their take-up of the retirement pathway, and will battle on. But we can't kid ourselves. As that unexpected sanctuary for dissident conservative outlooks, USD was in its death throes.
Hiring was now to be done explicitly with an eye to "diversity" (though of course, not the sort that has anything to do with outlook). In the not-too-distant future, this small private law school will be much of a muchness with other like law schools. . . . The capture of law schools by one dominant outlook rolls on to the peripheral outliers, to that wonderful USD law school that gave me two magnificent sabbaticals. And I cannot tell readers how sad this all makes me. I thought of Shakespeare and Much Ado About Nothing.

That what we have we prize not to the worth
Whiles we enjoy it, but being lacked and lost,
Why, then we rack the value, then we find
The virtue that possession would not show us
While it was ours.

As our own J.J. Sefton reminded us yesterday in detail, many of our political problems stem from our educational system.

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The Woke Cult takes over psychology

Here's another leftist cult story, with some recommendations about how to fight back.

The psychologists are burning another witch. A mob of professors, graduate students, and miscellaneous luftmenschen denounced Klaus Fiedler, the editor of Perspectives on Psychological Science, for "racism, general editorial incompetence, and abuse of power." The Board of Directors of the Association for Psychological Science (APS), craven accomplices to the mob, swiftly told Fiedler to resign or be fired. Fiedler resigned.
The occasion? In 2020, one Steven Roberts of Stanford University published the usual farrago of identity-politics activism that passes for professional research among the woke, copy-pasted to apply to psychology. Fiedler, naif, arranged to publish a professional discussion of his article--which, naturally, thoroughly but politely dismantled his argument. Roberts' solicited response included the slanderous accusation that respondent Lee Jussim's citation of a line from Fiddler on the Roof ("Of course, there was the time when he sold him a horse, but delivered a mule.") somehow invoked a long-forgotten derogatory comparison of blacks to mules.
(Gentle reader, is there one living American in a thousand who knows that this comparison ever existed?)

Fiedler, solicitous of Roberts' professional reputation, asked him to withdraw that particular ad hominem. Roberts responded by withdrawing his article and publishing it as an open-access pre-print, publicly denouncing Fiedler and all his critics as proof that "systemic racism exists in science," and sparking the social-media frenzy that led to Fiedler's forced resignation.

And that was not the only demand of the woke mob. Read the whole piece.

Lee Jussim, distinguished professor of psychology at Rutgers University, has provided an extensive account of Roberts' writings and of this witch-hunt. More broadly, he has described the general behavior of the identity-politics mobs who seek to destroy psychology.
These mobs seek (in my language, not his) to destroy all the academic disciplines by staffing them with commissars and by forcing them to pursue such euphemistically defined goals as "social justice," "diversity, equity, and inclusion," and so-called "anti-racism." In other words, they seek to impose a radical-left-wing political agenda on every aspect of the university, and to suppress all professional and private expression to oppose, or even question, that agenda.
Jussim and his likeminded peers say, despairingly, that the woke subordination of psychology (and the other disciplines) will encourage all free and intelligent minds to exit the discipline--and will also encourage attempts by Americans outside the academy to defund psychology as politicized nonsense.

The statements above should encourage action. Still, the following is pretty strong. Good.

American policymakers are fully justified in using the powers of the states and the federal government to restore the academy, and in defunding those sections of the academy that have succumbed completely to the woke. Gangrene requires surgery.
I do not wish to enter into the details of how psychology should conduct itself professionally, although I note that John Staddon has published a trenchant critique of psychology in the National Association of Scholars's (NAS) journal Academic Questions, which challenges psychological practice more fundamentally than does Roberts.

These mobs seek (in my language, not his) to destroy all the academic disciplines by staffing them with commissars and by forcing them to pursue such euphemistically defined goals as "social justice," "diversity, equity, and inclusion," and so-called "anti-racism." In other words, they seek to impose a radical-left-wing political agenda on every aspect of the university, and to suppress all professional and private expression to oppose, or even question, that agenda.
Jussim and his likeminded peers say, despairingly, that the woke subordination of psychology (and the other disciplines) will encourage all free and intelligent minds to exit the discipline--and will also encourage attempts by Americans outside the academy to defund psychology as politicized nonsense.

WOW. Are The Woke ready to have psychology defunded?

Jussim and Maranto on the same topic at Real Clear Education. How Woke Critical Theory is Destroying Science

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A few comments on Twitter, Trump and Free Speech

As Ace noted yesterday, Part VI of the Twitter Files dropped on Friday Evening again, "So... the media has an easier time ignoring it -- bury news you don't want covered with a Friday evening dump -- and the only people who care about it, conservatives, have to blog about it Friday night."

I'm not going to go into a lot of detail, but a Fresno radio station has a podcast up of an interview with Devin Nunes. I feel kind of bad for Nunes. His interviewer starts out by asking him about the Trump trading cards. Not Nunes' thing. Surprise!

Nunes doesn't know if Trump will go back on Twitter, but he doesn't think so. He and Trump support Twitter's moves toward free speech (starting at about 7 minutes into the podcast), but he seems to think that Musk is somewhat unpredictable.

They spend some time talking about TikTok. Worse than the other social media outfits.

This is Bari Weiss with her Thursday story about the Twitter files, on her new platform. She seems to be trying to make it clear that she is not just working for the richest man in the world.

More journalists were invited in by Musk than I knew about at first.

In the days that followed, we--the journalist Matt Taibbi; investigative reporters connected to The Free Press, including Abigail Shrier, Michael Shellenberger and Leighton Woodhouse; plus Free Press reporters Suzy Weiss, Peter Savodnik, Olivia Reingold, and Isaac Grafstein--camped out in a windowless, fluorescent-lit room at Twitter headquarters and began looking through the company's vast archive of internal communications.

I've seen a piece by Shellenberger on cancelling Trump and by Shrier on real-time doxxing:

"What's the worst thing the activists ever did to you?" The question I've been asked most often is also the one I never answer. Because isn't it obvious? It's the times they managed to reach my children.

Musk is a strange man. A consummate jokester and an undeniable genius. He bought a company for which, by his own estimation, he paid three times what it was worth. "At least," he said, when I and Michael Shellenberger and Bari Weiss asked him about this.
"I thought this was important to the future of civilization," he said. "I told investors that too.... And I thought this was important to the future of civilization to have a digital Town Square that people thought was fair and a level playing field and that, I don't know, pro civilization essentially." He told us he bought Twitter to protect the "expansion of consciousness."

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Music

Caroling is not Southern. In fact, it may get you killed down here.

Don't misunderstand. We love our neighbors, but it never dawns on most folks around here to just show up at someone's front door unannounced and start crooning about lowing cattle or old king whathisface. pic.twitter.com/39LNMl7MLp
— Canon Theologian of the Bible Belt ⚓️ (@NoJesuitTricks) December 13, 2022

Do you have a favorite carol for caroling? With due precautions if you live in the South?

"Life can't be all bad when for ten dollars you can buy all the Beethoven sonatas and listen to them for ten years."

William F. Buckley Jr.

Ludwig van Beethoven born 16th December 1770 pic.twitter.com/YuwukK7LJr
— Mark W. (@DurhamWASP) December 16, 2022

Well, the 16th or 17th, as far as we know.

pic.twitter.com/PTFQ573G4E
— Radieschen 🍻 Radish (@radishthegreat) December 16, 2022

Ode to Joy

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, December Rodeo: Rodeos, identity politics, the NYT strike, magnets and the brain, education vs. think tanks and more.

Update: Remember the Obama Rodeo Clown double standard?

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:18 AM

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 17, 2022 11:22 AM (uNylN)

2 Dated but looks to be a warmer place to be

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2022 11:23 AM (xhxe8)

3 Mmm. Content.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 11:24 AM (Qzn2/)

4 Hiya

Posted by: JT at December 17, 2022 11:25 AM (T4tVD)

5 Dated but looks to be a warmer place to be
Posted by: Skip

We're not gonna get malaria today.

Posted by: JT at December 17, 2022 11:26 AM (T4tVD)

6 comparison of blacks to mules.
(Gentle reader, is there one living American in a thousand who knows that this comparison ever existed?)

Tallywhacker size?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 17, 2022 11:26 AM (ybxl8)

7 How in the hell can a conservative Constitutional originalist be a "iconoclastic, nonconformist, dissident" thinker? Oh, we have gone soooo deep into the rabbit hole!

Posted by: RobertM at December 17, 2022 11:27 AM (k6Gzc)

8 First four comments out of the box are shoo-ins (shoos-in?) for Comment of the Week.

It's going to be a great thread, I can feel it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 11:28 AM (Qzn2/)

9 What qualifies a song as an "ode"? Is it related to a paean?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 11:31 AM (Qzn2/)

10 My Dad liked Beethoven. He taught himself to play the first movement of Moonlight Sonata on the piano. I love that piece.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 17, 2022 11:31 AM (UQUAY)

11 Paradise isn't paradise because politicians on both sides are whores. They are whores who can get away with it. And by politician, I'll include the federal bureaucracy, none of whom are hired for their talent and devotion to country.

I will include Governor BookDeal in this category until he explains exactly what the Foxxies are getting for their money, and don't insult my intelligence by saying "a good book", because political book deals are money laundering these days. You may note, that Trump did NOT get a "book deal", and I suspect more people would have bought his than those of Barr, Pence, Comey and DeSanitizedbookdeal combined

Posted by: CN at December 17, 2022 11:32 AM (Zzbjj)

12 Shockingly, the otherwise-fine essay on the Hotel Del Coronado omits one of the more fun and interesting tidbits about the hotel, and its famous beach.

For the past fifty-plus years, the rock jetty that fronts the hotel and protects its beach, has been used for training by BUD/S, the SEAL training school, just one mile down the Strand. BUD/S trainees learn how to land rubber boats on those rocks, day and night, in all weather, during the training. And the timed runs that are a big part of training pass by those rocks and the hotel, every week. It's a source of local pride that the Hotel Del plays such a big part of the SEAL tradition.

Posted by: goatexchange at December 17, 2022 11:33 AM (APPN8)

13 Caroling is not Southern. In fact, it may get you killed down here.

We might think you are coming for our stills or our sister-wives.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 17, 2022 11:35 AM (yQpMk)

14 Gatekeep or die

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 17, 2022 11:36 AM (fS+AK)

15 Nice pic of Gen. Patton attempting to escape the murderous caroling of the hostile Sicilian natives.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 11:36 AM (Qzn2/)

16 Good morning again everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2022 11:37 AM (qoGsy)

17 It is in the high forties here and for some reason mosquitos are out. They are fat and slow though, no match for Southern mosquito-swatting reflexes.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 17, 2022 11:38 AM (yQpMk)

18 Yuletide Fun Fact: Good King Wenceslas was not a king at all. He was Duke of Bohemia.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 11:39 AM (Qzn2/)

19 The kids are all hopped up and they're ready to go...
Which is why I left Beethoven's Last Movement on the piano bench.

Posted by: Der Volkischer Beobachter at December 17, 2022 11:39 AM (dXilO)

20 First four comments out of the box are shoo-ins (shoos-in?) for Comment of the Week.

It's going to be a great thread, I can feel it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

What has 6 legs and a bra ? Peter,Paul and Mary.

Tip your weightperson.

Posted by: JT at December 17, 2022 11:39 AM (T4tVD)

21 The Wassellers are the ones we fear the most.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 17, 2022 11:40 AM (yQpMk)

22 Last year a group showed up on my neighbor's porch and started caroling. I had too many poinsettias in the house, so I took the biggest one and brought it out to them.

They then proceeded to pass it on to the homeowner!

Posted by: kallisto at December 17, 2022 11:41 AM (dCxaZ)

23 A tweet from our own Heather Radish! Will have to check it out when I get to the PC since my Kindle doesn't have Java Script so no Twitter for me.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 11:42 AM (nC+QA)

24 It's a source of local pride that the Hotel Del plays such a big part of the SEAL tradition.
Posted by: goatexchange

And the Sunday brunch. don't forget that. Expensive and expansive. Worth every penny. We took my son there when he was in SD for his C School. He thought he died and went to heaven.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2022 11:42 AM (qoGsy)

25 Good Duke Wenceslas was murdered by his own brother.

Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 11:42 AM (Qzn2/)

26 Paradise is lost...Mr. Peabody's coal train hauled it away.

Posted by: BignJames at December 17, 2022 11:43 AM (AwYPR)

27 Good Duke Wenceslas was murdered by his own brother.

Merry Christmas.
Posted by: Cicero

'Rosebud. . . '

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2022 11:43 AM (qoGsy)

28 22 Last year a group showed up on my neighbor's porch and started caroling. I had too many poinsettias in the house, so I took the biggest one and brought it out to them.

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Sounds like a clever way to get rid of old books and furniture.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 11:45 AM (Qzn2/)

29 I've had carolers show up at my house a few times and the very last thing I thought of was chasing them off. I thought it was quite pleasant and wholesome, and I'm a cynical bastard.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 17, 2022 11:45 AM (fS+AK)

30 I so WISH the academy would be defunded…. But then I wake up in the real world. It won’t happen. Is DeSantis talking about pulling state funding from any nonsense that is surely going on in Florida universities? Not that I’m aware and Heavy D is the most aggressive of governors on the side of sanity and civilization…. And he has a friendly legislature!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 17, 2022 11:46 AM (FOWWv)

31 How in the hell can a conservative Constitutional originalist be a "iconoclastic, nonconformist, dissident" thinker? Oh, we have gone soooo deep into the rabbit hole!

Posted by: RobertM at December 17, 2022 11:27 AM (k6Gzc)

Over ten years ago John ( first, late) Husband noted that being Christians, who also believed in the stated planks of the R platform, *we* were now the radicals.

About that same time I also came to understand that agreeing with the the stated planks of the R platform made us the RINOs. It was a very distressing revelation.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 11:47 AM (nC+QA)

32 Anytime paradise is lost, one should pave it and put up a parking lot-cut your losses.

Posted by: Der Volkischer Beobachter at December 17, 2022 11:47 AM (dXilO)

33 BTW…. Why is Linus not in that Peanuts strip? :-)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 17, 2022 11:47 AM (FOWWv)

34 A firm I know hired a law "prefesser" who also happened to be a militant lesbean and a man hater. She always got glowing reviews when she worked at her leftist law seminary and was considered the tops in her field which escapes my mind at the moment. As soon as the firm hired her, the problems began. She was lazy, entitled and wanted others to do all the leg work and actual work on any project. She mainly posted her lesbean adventures with her "wife" on fakebook during working hours.

Finally, after a few years of her nonsense, the firm moved her to a sinecure spot doing their "conferences". All her fellow lawyers avoided her like the plague less a hostile work environment case suddenly pop up with their dealings with her.

She never made the firm one single dime in profits but she did let them check the militant lesbean box.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 17, 2022 11:48 AM (R/m4+)

35 Linus, I recall that Scott Walker in WI, really the last notable sane governor in the Heavy D mold (at least prominent and well known, and in his case in a hostile environment) managed to get tenure at state universities ended, or greatly reformed. I don't know whether that has endured or not.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 17, 2022 11:48 AM (OTzUX)

36 It's funny that no matter how intelligent, well educated, far reaching world-traveled and credentialed you are, everything separates into these two tribes, - left and right.

People are fucking stupid. I have a left nut, and I have a right nut, and they both need servicing.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 17, 2022 11:49 AM (geVLo)

37 Not that I dwell on these kinds of things but one of the biggest mistakes of my life was not moving to SD when I had the chance in 1985. My best friend moved there and I visited all the time.

A place where I instantly felt and home. People walking around smiling all the time. No screens on the windows, people in the area I was in left there windows open all the time. All kinds of cool things to do.

I ended up in Cocoa Beach. But San Diego would have been much better. A lot more places to work as an engineer.

Damn!

Posted by: pawn at December 17, 2022 11:49 AM (kYVzH)

38 BTW…. Why is Linus not in that Peanuts strip? :-)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 17, 2022 11:47 AM (FOWWv)

He's in 4 panels...ck your glasses.

Posted by: BignJames at December 17, 2022 11:49 AM (AwYPR)

39 Classical Christmas music! Aaaahhhhhhh.

Posted by: Eromero at December 17, 2022 11:50 AM (z3WCn)

40 she did let them check the militant lesbean box.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

Ewwwwwww!!!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2022 11:50 AM (qoGsy)

41 40 she did let them check the militant lesbean box.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

Ewwwwwww!!!
Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2022 11:50 AM (qoGsy)

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The only job worse than giving prostate exams.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 11:51 AM (Qzn2/)

42
A few years ago, James Kibbie made his survey of the complete organ works of Johann Sebastian Bach available for free download. I snapped at that opportunity.

And happy 252nd burfday to LvB.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 17, 2022 11:51 AM (MoZTd)

43 Oh, and I ran over Bella Abzug on my bike at the Hotel Coranado, hat and all.

Posted by: pawn at December 17, 2022 11:51 AM (kYVzH)

44 I have a picture of my 'ol man tending bar at the Hotel Del Coronado taken in 1938. He was a sailor working a part-time job. Quite by chance I walked into that same bar in 1998. Got a picture of the same spot. sadly I've heard that part of the hotel has been completely renovated and the bar is gone.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 17, 2022 11:51 AM (anj39)

45 I'm just now scanning the tv listing for what kind of sports are on today, and at noon there's a college football bowl ganme called the "Crickets Celebration Bowl".
I gotta think this has something to do with the globalist let them eat crickets plot.
I'll pass on this one.

Posted by: From about that time at December 17, 2022 11:51 AM (4780s)

46 This country's education system is something Rush Limbaugh rarely talked about until his last few years. It's at the root of everything that's going wrong in this nation.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 17, 2022 11:53 AM (BdMk6)

47 What a wonderful post today.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 17, 2022 11:53 AM (JssSF)

48 Being an Insane Diego native, I'll weigh in a bit here.

They've paved Paradise; put up a parking log. Seems I heard that somewhere, before?

But instead of evil asphalt, they've paved it over with struggle sessions, conformity, regulation, taxation and an unceasing erosion of freedoms, liberties and wide swath of various pursuits of happiness.

Basically, CA has outlawed more enjoyments than you might imagine. TRY burning your own firewood in your fireplace in San Diego, now. Dirt-bike on the fire-roads in the foothills? Notsomuch, Guido. Live aboard on your forty-foot ketch? Yeah, get *that* permit from the City, if you've a decade's patience. And, the gun thing there is a minefield one trods at their own (often, great) risk. And conservative politics?

We have CA commentors here who can extend and wax eloquent about all this, and more. I love my birthplace, but have enjoyed Texas now, since 1976. And, I remain...

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 17, 2022 11:53 AM (e6UQI)

49
He taught himself to play the first movement of Moonlight Sonata on the piano. I love that piece.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 17, 2022 11:31 AM (UQUAY)

_________

Someone once said you shouldn't play the first movement of the Moonlight until you can play the third.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 17, 2022 11:53 AM (MoZTd)

50 I was aware of the island of sanity at the University of Spoiled Daughters law school. Sickening to hear it, too, is being obliterated.

Joan Kroc of MacDonald's $$$ dropped $50M (I think that's the number) on USD to establish, I kid thee not, a "peace studies" program. The combo of delusion, ignorance, and arrogance that is implicit in the very title of that institution is breath-taking. People with a clue have few options or institutions or support - vapid moral narcissist products of our degraded miseducated society have cushy "jobs" in a spectacular palace perched above Mission Valley with a view toward the ocean.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 17, 2022 11:53 AM (OTzUX)

51 When I was a kid in Colorado we always went caroling even though we lived in the country. My parents would get a bunch of our friends together in the family van and we'd go to the nicer neighborhoods in town and sing door to door for an hour or two. It is a great memory.

I tried taking the kids caroling in our neighborhood the first year we moved here. I was shocked at how everyone assumed we wanted something from them. One elderly lady was very happy to see us, but otherwise the reception was very hostile. Didn't try again, which makes me sad that they missed out on that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 11:54 AM (nC+QA)

52 This country's education system is something Rush Limbaugh rarely talked about until his last few years. It's at the root of everything that's going wrong in this nation.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 17, 2022 11:53 AM (BdMk6)

schrool?

Posted by: BignJames at December 17, 2022 11:54 AM (AwYPR)

53 Hadrian the Seventh

My birdbath was not frozen this AM.

Posted by: JT at December 17, 2022 11:54 AM (T4tVD)

54 35 - Rhomboid: I’d forgotten about Walker’s exploits. He really was a solid governor (he was my number one choice in the 2016 primaries). What happened to him, I wonder?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 17, 2022 11:54 AM (FOWWv)

55
Oh, and I ran over Bella Abzug on my bike at the Hotel Coranado, hat and all.
Posted by: pawn at December 17, 2022 11:51 AM (kYVzH)

__________

She's dead now, which is good. Ugly New York commie bitch.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 17, 2022 11:55 AM (MoZTd)

56 It's at the root of everything that's going wrong in this nation.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons

^^^
This.

Posted by: From about that time at December 17, 2022 11:55 AM (4780s)

57 Basically, CA has outlawed more enjoyments than you might imagine. TRY burning your own firewood in your fireplace in San Diego, now. Dirt-bike on the fire-roads in the foothills? Notsomuch, Guido. Live aboard on your forty-foot ketch? Yeah, get *that* permit from the City, if you've a decade's patience. And, the gun thing there is a minefield one trods at their own (often, great) risk. And conservative politics?

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To be fair, we will be handing big wads of cash to black people because Reasons.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 11:55 AM (Qzn2/)

58 38: BignJames - Wow, my 29 year old eyes are bad!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 17, 2022 11:56 AM (FOWWv)

59 Musk is unpredictable, eh? Seems to be a prerequisite if you are going to achieve any victories.

Posted by: Emmie at December 17, 2022 11:57 AM (Emce2)

60 Someone once said you shouldn't play the first movement of the Moonlight until you can play the third.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Someone said that the world is a stage and you must play a part.

Act I was where we met.
Then came the sneeze part, Act Too.

Posted by: JT at December 17, 2022 11:59 AM (T4tVD)

61 The idea that you'll get shot caroling is absurd.

You approach it the same way you approach taking your kids trick or treating. You're walking up and down neighborhood singing AS you walk. You sing in front of houses. If the the families hear you and come out, fine. if not, fine, too. And it's fantastic, especially when you get a group of people together with the ability to carry a tune and maybe carry some candles while they do it.

You don't go trying to jiggle the windows to climb into their living rooms, dummies.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:00 PM (nMXLX)

62 Someone said that the world is a stage and you must play a part.

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That was Jefferson, I'm pretty sure.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 12:00 PM (Qzn2/)

63 [I>To be fair, we will be handing big wads of cash to black people because Reasons.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

I expect this will not happen. Melanin is a tiny fraction of the CA population, many other groups would sooner bus all of them to Atlanta, and the behavior of this commission is only solidifying that.

Posted by: JEM at December 17, 2022 12:00 PM (8erNz)

64 "Nunes doesn't know if Trump will go back on Twitter, but he doesn't think so. He and Trump support Twitter's moves toward free speech (starting at about 7 minutes into the podcast), but he seems to think that Musk is somewhat unpredictable. "

Gee, who does that remind you of?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 17, 2022 12:00 PM (Mzdiz)

65 When my family moved to San Diego, Coronado (this was before the bridge, you took the ferry from downtown or drove all the way around down near the border and up the strand) was a "Navy slum". Colder and wetter than any other spot in the area (and its beaches face southwest more than others, the surf there is rougher and always seems colder). Mostly retired Navy brass living there. Many of the homes were seasonal, vacation rentals (no insulation, light construction). As recently as the 80s, young first-time home-buyers bought there for the low prices.

Well. Last time I saw the numbers (could be a decade) Coronado had a higher average home price than Rancho Santa Fe, one of the top income zip codes in the US.

And it is beautiful. The simpler houses are mostly now replaced by modern villas, the older classic ones fixed up. There are historical plaques on many homes denoting where notable naval aviators lived. Great place to bike or walk. The SEALs no longer (since 9/11) do their July 4th spectacular on Glorietta Bay near their base, but Coronado has a 4th of July parade out of the 1950s, it's terrific.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 17, 2022 12:01 PM (OTzUX)

66 Someone said that the world is a stage and you must play a part.

I'll be the barker out front...the one with a hip flask.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 17, 2022 12:01 PM (anj39)

67
To be honest, I do not recall a single instance of carolers showing up at an abode where I have lived during my 29 years ... it must have been an 80s' thing.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 17, 2022 12:01 PM (pNxlR)

68 My birdbath was not frozen this AM.
Posted by: JT

It's a big 12 degrees here.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 17, 2022 12:01 PM (FVME7)

69 62 Someone said that the world is a stage and you must play a part.

I thought it was Mongo.

Posted by: JEM at December 17, 2022 12:02 PM (8erNz)

70
That was Jefferson, I'm pretty sure.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 12:00 PM (Qzn2/)

__________

All quotes are Jefferson, Churchill, Einstein, Gandhi or the Dalai Lama.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 17, 2022 12:02 PM (MoZTd)

71 A group of us kids in the 6th grade went caroling in my city in Louisiana. Must have been 1973. I went because I had my eye on one of my classmates but alas she rejected me or at least it felt like it. Not a good memory of caroling .

Can't imagine today a bunch of 12 year olds going caroling by themselves. It's a totally different world.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 12:02 PM (dQoNW)

72 Favorite carol for outdoor caroling: "People Look East".

As for the South, I can't imagine people objecting to caroling. But then, I can't imagine caroling in my shirtsleeves, either.

Posted by: Nemo at December 17, 2022 12:02 PM (S6ArX)

73 Not that I dwell on these kinds of things but one of the biggest mistakes of my life was not moving to SD when I had the chance in 1985. My best friend moved there and I visited all the time.

A place where I instantly felt and home. People walking around smiling all the time. No screens on the windows, people in the area I was in left there windows open all the time. All kinds of cool things to do.

I ended up in Cocoa Beach. But San Diego would have been much better. A lot more places to work as an engineer.

Damn!

Posted by: pawn at December 17, 2022 11:49 AM (kYVzH)

I moved there in '96 and stayed for 7 years. It was a fine place in many ways. Been to the Hotel Del a few times, and got the "ghost tour" too.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 17, 2022 12:02 PM (Mzdiz)

74 Someone said that the world is a stage and you must play a part.

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That was Jefferson, I'm pretty sure.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

Well, it wasn't Archie Bunker.

Posted by: JT at December 17, 2022 12:02 PM (T4tVD)

75 Saw a yoo-toob vidya of a pretty young lady playing the 2nd (?) movement of Moonlight Sonata on her guitar. She friggin' killed.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 17, 2022 12:03 PM (UQUAY)

76
Haven't been to CA in 25 years. No reason to go there.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 17, 2022 12:03 PM (MoZTd)

77 To be honest, I do not recall a single instance of carolers showing up at an abode where I have lived during my 29 years ... it must have been an 80s' thing.
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If it was an 80s thing, it must have been a thing on the mainland, because it wasn't in Hawai'i.

Even when living in Cali in the 70s, never saw carolers except on TV in movies.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:03 PM (mgtvV)

78 Someone said that the world is a stage and you must play a part.

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And we strut and fart our hour upon the stage.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 17, 2022 12:04 PM (FVME7)

79 "I thought this was important to the future of civilization," he said. "I told investors that too.... And I thought this was important to the future of civilization to have a digital Town Square that people thought was fair and a level playing field and that, I don't know, pro civilization essentially." He told us he bought Twitter to protect the "expansion of consciousness."

There aren't a lot of people who would be willing to overspend by about $29B for a principle and an abstract good for all. Bravo, Elon!

Posted by: Archimedes at December 17, 2022 12:04 PM (eOEVl)

80 Someone said that the world is a stage and you must play a part.

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That was Jefferson, I'm pretty sure.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

Well, it wasn't Archie Bunker.
Posted by: JT at December 17, 2022 12:02 PM (T4tVD)

Pretty sure it was Weezie.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 17, 2022 12:04 PM (UQUAY)

81 I don't have any memory of living in San Diego, though sis was born there.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:05 PM (mgtvV)

82 Ode to Joy.

Thank you KT.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2022 12:05 PM (rTakZ)

83 In the Ode to Joy clip at the bottom, the conductor is having the audience sing along too, isn't he? That's wonderful if so and should be done more often.

I'd love to stumble into one of those performances.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:05 PM (nMXLX)

84 The idea that you'll get shot caroling is absurd.

You approach it the same way you approach taking your kids trick or treating. You're walking up and down neighborhood singing AS you walk. You sing in front of houses. If the the families hear you and come out, fine. if not, fine, too. And it's fantastic, especially when you get a group of people together with the ability to carry a tune and maybe carry some candles while they do it.

You don't go trying to jiggle the windows to climb into their living rooms, dummies.
Posted by: Press Juan For English

And don't go to Alec Baldwin's house.

Posted by: JT at December 17, 2022 12:06 PM (T4tVD)

85 "I thought this was important to the future of civilization," he said. "I told investors that too.... And I thought this was important to the future of civilization to have a digital Town Square that people thought was fair and a level playing field and that, I don't know, pro civilization essentially." He told us he bought Twitter to protect the "expansion of consciousness."
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When you think about it, that's Evil White Supremacy as f*ck.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:06 PM (nMXLX)

86 Saw a yoo-toob vidya of a pretty young lady playing the 2nd (?) movement of Moonlight Sonata on her guitar. She friggin' killed.

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My favorites are the ones killing it on the piano or with a drumset while wearing string bikinis.

Not that i noticed, I'm all about the music you see

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 17, 2022 12:06 PM (VTu1l)

87 We used to carol senior homes.

Haven't done in a while but might try to find a group...

Posted by: JEM at December 17, 2022 12:07 PM (8erNz)

88 Joan Kroc of MacDonald's $$$ dropped $50M (I think that's the number) on USD to establish, I kid thee not, a "peace studies" program.

I'd bet that Joan Kroc hasn't seen the inside of a McDonald's since her husband died, and that she turns up her nose at anyone that has.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 17, 2022 12:07 PM (eOEVl)

89 Posted by: Archimedes at December 17, 2022 12:04 PM (eOEVl)

Agree. I always assumed that was his intention because he is definitely smart enough to know he tremendously overpaid and would never get his investment back. Glad to have it confirmed.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 12:07 PM (dQoNW)

90 There aren't a lot of people who would be willing to overspend by about $29B for a principle and an abstract good for all. Bravo, Elon!
Posted by: Archimedes at December 17, 2022 12:04 PM (eOEVl)

There probably is a principle aspect here, but I suspect Musk also thinks something about Twitter will be of use on Mars. Detractors have started noting how wildly diverse Musk's interests are, but if you think about each company as part of a whole Mars colonization package it makes more sense.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 12:09 PM (nC+QA)

91 Musk is unpredictable, eh? Seems to be a prerequisite if you are going to achieve any victories.
Posted by: Emmie at December 17, 2022 11:57 AM (Emce2)

I define unpredictable as being a risk-taker. Another reason this country is swirling around the toilet bowl is the great majority of the population is on the insane side of risk-averse.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 17, 2022 12:09 PM (BdMk6)

92 There probably is a principle aspect here, but I suspect Musk also thinks something about Twitter will be of use on Mars.

Could be, but I'm not smart enough to know what it would be.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 17, 2022 12:09 PM (eOEVl)

93 Pity Musk will never get to Mars.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:09 PM (mgtvV)

94 Thank you for this thread btw.

I hadn't thought about it before, but caroling to shut-ins at this time of year would be a fantastic church ministry. I might see how to get that coordinated next season so that we do it each weekend between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Nursing homes would be a good place to visit as well, but especially for older churchgoers who can no longer leave their homes.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:09 PM (nMXLX)

95 Twitter on Mars?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 12:10 PM (Qzn2/)

96 Notwithstanding all the well-known idiocies inflicted on themselves by the populace here, there are still more great things to do than I have time or energy for.

Weather's the same (ridiculously perfect). Mexico (northern Baja, border area) isn't the wonderful uncrowded friendly casual place it was, of course. Mountains and deserts are basically the same.

Crowding, prices, and artificially inflated energy costs are actually the worst things affecting normal daily life. Some of that is a direct result of idiotic politics, but not all.

The area was in many ways probably close to paradise in the golden era (50s-70s). If you grew up here then and were the sort that loved all it had to offer, it's hard to imagine living anywhere else, even with the negative changes. Pretty much depends on your interests and activities.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 17, 2022 12:10 PM (OTzUX)

97 There probably is a principle aspect here, but I suspect Musk also thinks something about Twitter will be of use on Mars.
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Yep. I suspect that "town square" hint is part of it.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:10 PM (nMXLX)

98 76
Haven't been to CA in 25 years. No reason to go there.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

It is a sunny 60 fahrenheit outside right now.

Yeah much the rest is suckage. Family. Weather.

Posted by: JEM at December 17, 2022 12:11 PM (8erNz)

99
"Be Still My Soul" is another lovely hymn set to the main theme of Finlandia, by Jean Sibelius.

Be still, my soul: the Lord is on thy side;
bear patiently the cross of grief or pain;
leave to thy God to order and provide;
in ev'ry change He faithful will remain.
Be still, my soul: thy best, thy heav'nly Friend
thro' thorny ways leads to a joyful end.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 17, 2022 12:11 PM (MoZTd)

100 The top item compels me to point out that I stuff Gail Heriot into the same sort of box as Victor Davis Hanson; their messages come a generation or two too late to be effective. They see the causes but still don't grok the magnitude of the problems, and shy away from the sorts of solutions required. Pre-1968 America isn't coming back, and it shouldn't because the seeds of today were planted long prior to that.

We don't need Buckley, we need Franco.

Posted by: somedood at December 17, 2022 12:11 PM (EEVQU)

101 Some of my favorite memories of my junior high years. My church group (small town upper Midwest) would go to the homes of elderly in our town and sing 4-5 carols at each house standing outside. Always ended with “we wish you a merry Christmas”…. Even as a youngster I could see the joy in the eyes of those old folks. Turn back to the Church basement for chili and hot chocolate. Great memories…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 17, 2022 12:11 PM (FOWWv)

102 Crowding, prices, and artificially inflated energy costs are actually the worst things affecting normal daily life. Some of that is a direct result of idiotic politics, but not all.

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Chronic water shortages are a way of life. That's a political one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 12:12 PM (Qzn2/)

103 Caroling would think is a Victoria era tradition. Fondly remember as a teenager many years church group we would visit people shut in mostly but others and 10 -15 of us would drive around, sing a few carols and occasionally went in to wish the surprised have a Merry Christmas we didn't forget you. Often lots of goodies handed out or consumed in this evening or two.

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2022 12:12 PM (xhxe8)

104 This is rather self explanatory. Released by Maatt Taibbi:

https://tinyurl.com/329s9uyz

Posted by: Javems at December 17, 2022 12:12 PM (AmoqO)

105
Pretty sure the lag time on a Tweet to Mars is in the range of 15 minutes.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 17, 2022 12:12 PM (enJYY)

106 Yeah much the rest is suckage. Family. Weather.

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Sounds like Colorado, which is in keeping with the left's capacity to find the best places in the country and butt fuck it to hell

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 17, 2022 12:12 PM (VTu1l)

107 Didn't Buckley go tits up before digital downloads? How'd he get all of Beethoven's sonatas for $10.

Who did he have to blow to get them that cheap?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 12:12 PM (em/6J)

108 Pre-1968 America isn't coming back, and it shouldn't because the seeds of today were planted long prior to that.
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Never knew that America, since I was born in 1968, and most of what I was taught has been a lie.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:13 PM (mgtvV)

109 The Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery at Point Loma is one of the most beautiful settings I have ever seen. The monument to the men of Task Force Taffy III lost during the Battle of Leyte Gulf is stunning.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 17, 2022 12:13 PM (anj39)

110 Pretty sure the lag time on a Tweet to Mars is in the range of 15 minutes.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 17, 2022 12:12 PM (enJYY)

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And double if you're using a dial-up modem.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 12:13 PM (Qzn2/)

111 Yep. I suspect that "town square" hint is part of it.
Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:10 PM (nMXLX)

How is that a hint? I see nothing Twitter can offer regard to Mars . Doesn't mean there isn't. I just don't see it.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 12:13 PM (dQoNW)

112 My Mom and Dad were married at Santa Margarita Chapel aboard Camp Pendelton. They loved the weather but bolted after Dad was discharged in 55. Dad said CA was full of 'fruits and nuts' even back then.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2022 12:14 PM (qoGsy)

113 >>>I don't have any memory of living in San Diego, though sis was born there.

>My last memory of SD was when I was dancing and drinking with a couple of fine ladies and at closing time, some dude pulled a pistol out his glove box and took two shots at me as I fled from the parking lot. It was a good thing he couldn't aim for shit. Some people just don't have a sense of civility.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 17, 2022 12:15 PM (geVLo)

114 Didn't Buckley go tits up before digital downloads? How'd he get all of Beethoven's sonatas for $10.

Who did he have to blow to get them that cheap?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 12:12 PM (em/6J)

Columbia House for a penny.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 12:15 PM (dQoNW)

115 I never did the Christmas Carol thing, but I sang tenor in my Dad's Barbershop Quartet and we would do Valentine's Day songs at offices and such. It was fun and sometimes kind of weird.

Once we were waiting at a restaurant, and later the owner told us that one of his regulars said "You know there's a van full of Norwegians outside?"

My Dad was awesome.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 17, 2022 12:15 PM (UQUAY)

116 A quarter of the faculty were right-of-center??? Unheard of!

Things were changing by his second sabbatical in 2019.

Perception and perspective.
Things were changed last century when they allowed the government to take up their guns. They willingly gave up their sovereignty that day. It was over. Future events had just not been writ.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 17, 2022 12:15 PM (IjhTR)

117 I do suspect Musk wants to upgrade Twitter to become a decentralized blockchain (that actually works) that people can financially transact on.

Think being able to fundraise without lefty fuckholes trying to shut it down because you wont accept the the 500 million different genders we have now

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 17, 2022 12:15 PM (VTu1l)

118 Sounds like Colorado, which is in keeping with the left's capacity to find the best places in the country and butt fuck it to hell
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger

Part of the reason we moved where we did is leftist's will say about it: "Why would anyone want to go there?"

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2022 12:15 PM (qoGsy)

119 Sounds like Colorado, which is in keeping with the left's capacity to find the best places in the country and butt fuck it to hell

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 17, 2022 12:12 PM (VTu1l)

Doesn't it just? I loved many things about growing up in Colorado. Don't think I could live there now. It's not anything like the place I grew up in.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 12:16 PM (nC+QA)

120 My last memory of SD was when I was dancing and drinking with a couple of fine ladies and at closing time, some dude pulled a pistol out his glove box and took two shots at me as I fled from the parking lot. It was a good thing he couldn't aim for shit. Some people just don't have a sense of civility.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 17, 2022 12:15 PM (geVLo)

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Lynyrd Skynyrd wrote a song about this.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 17, 2022 12:16 PM (Qzn2/)

121 Caroling would think is a Victoria era tradition. Fondly remember as a teenager many years church group we would visit people shut in mostly but others and 10 -15 of us would drive around, sing a few carols and occasionally went in to wish the surprised have a Merry Christmas we didn't forget you. Often lots of goodies handed out or consumed in this evening or two.
Posted by: Skip

Its not polite to sing with your mouth full.

Posted by: JT at December 17, 2022 12:16 PM (T4tVD)

122 I once visited Stockton, MA where they reenact the Norman Rockwell painting every year as part of the holiday celebration.

I find it ironic that such reenactments are done by the very same lefttarded fuckwit atheist piss fuckers who vote against everything the paintings generally depict.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 17, 2022 12:18 PM (VTu1l)

123 I lived in Alameda and San Diego in the 70s, and I have lttle memory of it beyond snippets of when my siblings were born and a few memories of when I was 9 and 10, going on field trips, but even those are hazy.

Older I get, the less I remember of my childhood.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:18 PM (bvH+0)

124 Yep. I suspect that "town square" hint is part of it.
Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:10 PM (nMXLX)

How is that a hint? I see nothing Twitter can offer regard to Mars . Doesn't mean there isn't. I just don't see it.
Posted by: polynikes
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I don't have the genius or foresight, but I can certainly see it a foundation of a tool for communication and news on a place where people can't physically gather together.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:18 PM (nMXLX)

125 Chronic water shortages are a way of life. That's a political one.
Posted by: Cicero

Google Data Center Used Nearly 300 Million Gallons of Oregon's City Water Amid Draught, Tried to Keep It Secret

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 17, 2022 12:18 PM (FVME7)

126 Why did those modest abodes turn into mansions?
Highest concentration of retired admirals: Coronado Island.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2022 12:18 PM (rTakZ)

127 Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 17, 2022 12:15 PM (geVLo)
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That's nice.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:19 PM (bvH+0)

128 I'd bet that Joan Kroc hasn't seen the inside of a McDonald's since her husband died, and that she turns up her nose at anyone that has.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 17, 2022 12:07 PM (eOEVl)

No need to worry further. She snuffed it in 2003, aged 75.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 17, 2022 12:19 PM (ZSK0i)

129 It never occurs to the leftists that if all of the non leftists are gone , the only thing they can do is eat each other.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 17, 2022 12:19 PM (11zNb)

130 The land of fruits and nuts

Steers, Queers, & Hot Rods

and where there are Hot Rods there are hot chics

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 17, 2022 12:20 PM (IjhTR)

131 hahaha, I'd forgotten about the Columbia House mailers.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:20 PM (nMXLX)

132 My Mom and Dad were married at Santa Margarita Chapel aboard Camp Pendelton. They loved the weather but bolted after Dad was discharged in 55. Dad said CA was full of 'fruits and nuts' even back then.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2022 12:14 PM (qoGsy)

My Dad indicated the same. He went to boot at Pendleton . After he retired from the service he went to work for Lockheed in Louisiana. When they shut down the operation when the Vietnam War was winding down they offered him a job in CA. He went to CA on a six month temp assignment but refused the offer of a permanent job because he didn't want to raise me in CA.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 12:20 PM (dQoNW)

133 When we moved to Colorado two decades +/- ago it was the place to be. Hell, even the Democrat Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell switched to GOP.

Now? Can't wait to get the hell out. One step closer, because we just did the last payment on our house.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 17, 2022 12:20 PM (UQUAY)

134 @61 You don't go trying to jiggle the windows to climb into their living rooms, dummies.

Once upon a time..."celebrating" Christmas was severely frowned upon, and part of that was the time-honored practice of the underprivileged literally barging into the homes of the wealthier and making off with silver, candlesticks and the like. The original "War on Christmas," documented in the words of the song "The World Turn'd Upisde Down," stemmed from attempts in the 18th century to end the custom. Naturally we are all ooey-gooey about our memories of Christmas, but part of its history had a nasty edge.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 17, 2022 12:21 PM (jYCXf)

135 Doesn't it just? I loved many things about growing up in Colorado. Don't think I could live there now. It's not anything like the place I grew up in.

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One of my friend's friends knew a couple from NY that moved there. Conservative and MAGA people, i think they only managed to survive a year there before they gave every lefty Coloradan the finger and moved again to Kentucky.

From what I understand, they smelled pot everywhere, got sick of the politics, could not relate to the locals, and felt most of the "conservatives" were too listless, cowardly and Bush-like to effectively fight back, so they left.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 17, 2022 12:22 PM (VTu1l)

136 Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 12:12 PM (em/6J)

Columbia House for a penny.
Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 12:15 PM (dQoNW)

Columbia House is a racket. You send that card in ONE DAY late and you get the "greatest hits" of Kenny G for $46.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 12:22 PM (em/6J)

137 No need to worry further. She snuffed it in 2003, aged 75.

Pity. Anyway...

Posted by: Archimedes at December 17, 2022 12:23 PM (eOEVl)

138 Diogenes Fort Rosecrans is indeed a spectacular place. All of Point Loma is really. The views and feel of the place. The least known/visited yet one of the top spots in SD for visitors. Always tell people to make sure to go there. We hike or bike out at the Cabrillo national monument at the tip all the time. Besides the beauty and ocean air, often some interesting views of Navy ships or subs leaving or returning.

Have been to several memorial services at the little shelter next to the Taffy III monument you mention. Can't imagine a better setting and view for such a thing.

FYI, there's an even larger and more detailed memorial to Taffy III and the Battle Off Samar down next to the USS Midway museum.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 17, 2022 12:23 PM (OTzUX)

139 and will also encourage attempts by Americans outside the academy to defund psychology as politicized nonsense.

Something tells me he meant "dismiss" which we should do judiciously, but "defund" is what is ultimately needed across the entire Academy.

Defunding the Marxist Madrasas is necessary to pull up from this nose-dive.
Tax endowments, tie all government loans/funding to civil rights requirements subject to re-occuring audits/, subject all universities to enhanced EEOC requirements, and sue for injunctions.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 17, 2022 12:24 PM (IyrhE)

140 Now? Can't wait to get the hell out. One step closer, because we just did the last payment on our house.

*************

Excellent! I hope you find true happiness where you move

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 17, 2022 12:24 PM (VTu1l)

141
I just priced three different sets of burnishing tools for jewelry working that I had priced back in April. Now, eight months later, their prices are higher by 48%, 30% and 51%.

The price-weighted increase for my order is 43% over the eight month time span. No inflation / inflation is under control!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 17, 2022 12:24 PM (pNxlR)

142 Don't carol about Figgy Pudding on Castro Street might be a wise move.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 17, 2022 12:26 PM (XSAJB)

143 go to the homes of elderly in our town and sing 4-5 carols

A few 29s ago did same with Boy Scout troop.

Posted by: DaveA at December 17, 2022 12:26 PM (FhXTo)

144 Doesn't it just? I loved many things about growing up in Colorado. Don't think I could live there now. It's not anything like the place I grew up in.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 12:16 PM (nC+QA)

Wish I could have stayed longer, but among other things, Lauren Boebert just won the district by about 550 votes.

Denver will not let that happen again.

Lots of natural beauty, I suspect Western Slope is about to lose whatever separate identity it once had.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 12:26 PM (em/6J)

145 Psychology has always been staffed and advanced mostly by those with their own psychological issues.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 12:27 PM (dQoNW)

146 Don't carol about Figgy Pudding on Castro Street might be a wise move.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Heh, yep.

Not a thing that was done in some of the places I lived.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:29 PM (lTC1F)

147 The price-weighted increase for my order is 43% over the eight month time span. No inflation / inflation is under control!
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It's been noted here often, but people who go to the grocery store and mostly just buy day to day stuff know that real-world inflation is 50%.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:29 PM (nMXLX)

148 I worked at the University of San Diego (not the School of Law) for the last two decades of my working career, and got to see some of the forums and presentations that the School of Law put on.

It really is a small “small private Catholic university”. And a beautiful campus (in a beautiful city).

But the takeover by wokeness is part of a larger slide to mediocrity; as part of the web team, I had the “privilege” of listening in on their slogan design, where they made fun of other small private Catholic universities such as Azusa Pacific’s, which has (and had) God right on the web page.

AP’s God line was also a simple line, and I suggested we attempt to come up with a simple, short line that would describe USD. The result was a long, meandering, and meaningless bit of bureaucratese; that’s one of the things that got me seriously making sure I had my retirement plans lined up.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 17, 2022 12:29 PM (EXyHK)

149 Excellent! I hope you find true happiness where you move
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at December 17, 2022 12:24 PM (VTu1l)

Our plan is to move to one of them places where people say "why the hell would you want to live there?"

*taps nose*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 17, 2022 12:29 PM (UQUAY)

150 Students at elite, woke NYC university have occupied campus and are demanding A-grades for everyone

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Lots of other ~~insane~~ progressive demands as well at link that are good for a chuckle.

https://bit.ly/3FA3AuI

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 17, 2022 12:30 PM (FVME7)

151 Naturally we are all ooey-gooey about our memories of Christmas, but part of its history had a nasty edge.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 17, 2022 12:21 PM (jYCXf)

Pretty much all my fond memories of Christmas are from my childhood. Adult Christmas has been underwhelming at best. Like we all tried to recreate that warmth and wonder of the season, and it didn't quite take.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 12:31 PM (em/6J)

152 Our plan is to move to one of them places where people say "why the hell would you want to live there?"

*taps nose*
Posted by: Pug Mahon
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Heh...exactly.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:31 PM (lTC1F)

153 AP’s God line was also a simple line, and I suggested we attempt to come up with a simple, short line that would describe USD. The result was a long, meandering, and meaningless bit of bureaucratese; that’s one of the things that got me seriously making sure I had my retirement plans lined up.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

There was/is no bigger waste of time and effort than that expended crafting 'mission statements' at any level of an organization.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2022 12:32 PM (qoGsy)

154 Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:29 PM (nMXLX)

I'm one of those that's shops as needed. And yes I noted the increase in everything but the one item that just slapped me in the face was a bottle of ketchup.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 12:32 PM (dQoNW)

155 Pretty much all my fond memories of Christmas are from my childhood. Adult Christmas has been underwhelming at best. Like we all tried to recreate that warmth and wonder of the season, and it didn't quite take.
Posted by: BurtTC
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I remember my children's Christmas' more than my own.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:32 PM (lTC1F)

156 Students at elite, woke NYC university have occupied campus and are demanding A-grades for everyone
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I don't blame them.

Why should Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc. be the only ones to do it?

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:32 PM (nMXLX)

157 My last memory of SD was when I was dancing and drinking with a couple of fine ladies and at closing time, some dude pulled a pistol out his glove box and took two shots at me as I fled from the parking lot. It was a good thing he couldn't aim for shit. Some people just don't have a sense of civility.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 17, 2022 12:15 PM (geVLo)

Never stand between a polygynist and his wives.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 17, 2022 12:32 PM (uia9V)

158 Rhomboid: I’d forgotten about Walker’s exploits. He really was a solid governor (he was my number one choice in the 2016 primaries). What happened to him, I wonder?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 17, 2022 11:54 AM (FOWWv)

He told us that if we opposed unlimited immigration that he didn't want our votes.

He went the full Jeb!.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 17, 2022 12:32 PM (yQpMk)

159 Dr. Bone, had a similar experience except no drinking but a glass sweet tea, no dancing except me trying to heep a kitchen table between me and a jealous husband, no gun just a 12" carving knife. And ten minutes prior I was driving down the street, and this woman's mom invited me in for tea. Guy said 'somebody's running with my wife.' I said 'that may be true but it won't me.'

Posted by: Eromero at December 17, 2022 12:32 PM (/RDPd)

160 Once upon a time..."celebrating" Christmas was severely frowned upon, and part of that was the time-honored practice of the underprivileged literally barging into the homes of the wealthier and making off with silver, candlesticks and the like.

Heh. A Blackadder Christmas Carol touched upon that with everybody and their uncle bleeding Ebenezer Blackadder dry.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 17, 2022 12:33 PM (ZSK0i)

161 USS Midway museum has a new unique exhibit.

They have a 1/1 scale replica TBD-1 Devastator on display.

No actual TBDs exist on land. 11 are with the Lexington wreck in the Coral Sea, two are at Jaluit, and one is off Florida.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 17, 2022 12:33 PM (XSAJB)

162 Used to always go to the Del at least once around Christmas to see the decorations and lighting. They have an outdoor ice rink set up in the back, on the beach side, which makes for good weird photos. Not sure what it's like now, but a few years ago stopped bothering - waaay too crowded. The explosion in travel (and wealth), globally, has sort of ruined lots of things due to volume. Coronado at Christmas was, maybe still is, one of them. Wasn't just Chinese - lots of Euros.

This goes back decades, but it's a shame more people don't/didn't get the memo on how bad things are here, as crowding has been the main negative change for most parts of regular life.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 17, 2022 12:34 PM (OTzUX)

163 Our plan is to move to one of them places where people say "why the hell would you want to live there?"

*taps nose*
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 17, 2022 12:29 PM (UQUAY)

I think, had things gone differently, our dream was to move somewhere with land, not off the grid exactly, but away from the bustle.

The wife wasn't really capable of waiting, and it's hard for me to even look back on those discussions without seeing how unrealistic it all was.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 12:34 PM (em/6J)

164 I'm one of those that's shops as needed. And yes I noted the increase in everything but the one item that just slapped me in the face was a bottle of ketchup.
Posted by: polynikes
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And it's gonna get much, much worse, especially in early '23.

That bottle of ketchup is gonna double or triple in price.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:34 PM (lTC1F)

165 "Twitter CEO Elon Musk reinstated a handful of left-wing journalists who had been booted from Twitter days ago for violating the social media platform's "doxxing" policies.

Shortly after midnight, Musk tweeted, "the people have spoken ... accounts who doxxed my location will have their suspension lifted now." "
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Might be the best thing.
He's publicly humiliated/exposed them now he's allowed them back. A merciful act. Now, that attention is upon them their next acts will be critically viewed, for better or worse.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 17, 2022 12:34 PM (IjhTR)

166 I still don't understand the Friday evening Twitter dumps. Is this Musk's idea? Apparently he has entrusted the information to left-leaning people on purpose, maybe to forestall being dismissed as right-wing hysterics? Are the lefties trying to downplay the revelations? Is musk okay with this?

Posted by: Emmie at December 17, 2022 12:34 PM (Emce2)

167 Someone said that the world is a stage and you must play a part.

Posted by: JT at December 17, 2022 11:59 AM

"We don't read and write poetry because it's cute. We read and write poetry, because we are members of the human race. And the human race is filled with passion.

Medicine, law, business, engineering... these are noble pursuits and necessary to sustain life. But poetry... beauty... an old man's love. These are what we stay alive for.

To quote from Whitman... 'Oh me, oh life, of the questions of these recurring. Of the endless trains of the faithless. Of cities filled with the foolish. What good amid these, oh me, oh life? Answer: that you are here. That life exists and identity. That the powerful play goes on and you may contribute a verse.'

What will your verse be?"

http://bit.ly/3uX5gt9

Posted by: Dead Poets Society at December 17, 2022 12:35 PM (Do5/p)

168 So how long did Musk suspend the doxxers anyway? Did they get the seven day treatment?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 17, 2022 12:35 PM (ZSK0i)

169 What will your verse be?
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God willing, "Well done, My good and faithful servant."

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:37 PM (lTC1F)

170 Pretty much all my fond memories of Christmas are from my childhood. Adult Christmas has been underwhelming at best. Like we all tried to recreate that warmth and wonder of the season, and it didn't quite take.
Posted by: BurtTC
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I remember my children's Christmas' more than my own.
Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:32 PM (lTC1F)

When my kids were little, we kinda hurried the process at home, then had to get loaded up and go places. It was quite the hassle, and for a few years there I was "on call" for good portions of the day.

Then the wife got sick when the kids were still young, and ended up dying days before Christmas. The holiday has been... different ever since.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 12:37 PM (em/6J)

171 >>>That's nice.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid

>That's the kind of misunderstanding people have when you're hanging with your buddies in the band.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 17, 2022 12:38 PM (geVLo)

172 That the powerful play goes on and you may contribute a verse.'

What will your verse be?"

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Something about a man from Nantucket.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 17, 2022 12:38 PM (FVME7)

173 God willing, "Well done, My good and faithful servant."
Posted by: SMH

Amen!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2022 12:39 PM (qoGsy)

174 One thing about USD (University of Spoiled Daughters) - it went from sleepy and casual and not at all fancy to "where the hell did all THIS money come from?".

Played some water polo games there in high school. Campus was pretty, but simple, and classic. The new facilities are pretty sumptuous, to say the least. The high school was moved/expanded to a new, very ritzy campus miles north, east of Del Mar. First time I rode my bike past it, was puzzling over which college it was. Was shocked to learn later it was a high school.

A guy at the shooting matches works at USD. His stories are amusing.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 17, 2022 12:39 PM (OTzUX)

175 And it's gonna get much, much worse, especially in early '23.

That bottle of ketchup is gonna double or triple in price.
Posted by: SMH
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They want to wash us out. Barron's round table said possible market drop 16 to 20%.

Don't know how that's going to affect prices but it can't be good.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 17, 2022 12:39 PM (IjhTR)

176 Don't carol about Figgy Pudding on Castro Street might be a wise move.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Heh, yep.

Not a thing that was done in some of the places I lived.
Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:29 PM (lTC1F)

When I was growing up in my small town, one of the churches would sponser a youth (16-19 years old) caroling night on Christmas Eve. We'd go to farmers that lived waaay out in the hinterlands of northwest Oklahoma from about 7pm until around 3 or 3:30am Christmas morning. So much fun.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 17, 2022 12:39 PM (BdMk6)

177 Then the wife got sick when the kids were still young, and ended up dying days before Christmas. The holiday has been... different ever since.
Posted by: BurtTC
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I can see why you'd have less pleasant memories of Christmas, my condolences.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:40 PM (lTC1F)

178 I still don't understand the Friday evening Twitter dumps. Is this Musk's idea? Apparently he has entrusted the information to left-leaning people on purpose, maybe to forestall being dismissed as right-wing hysterics? Are the lefties trying to downplay the revelations? Is musk okay with this?
Posted by: Emmie at December 17, 2022 12:34 PM (Emce2)

I could be wrong, but it seems to me the "news cycle" is a construct that serves the powers that be, and if you release this stuff on a Tuesday afternoon, the evening shows get to do their thing, the morning shows do theirs, and all of the newspapers will spend the week spinning it their way.

A Friday dump means the "news" gleaned from it will be mostly online. On twitter itself. So maybe the thought is, the resulting narrative is less spun by corporate media.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 12:40 PM (em/6J)

179 Historically, San Diego in general was a fairly conservative area due to the strong military influence. But it's my understanding that this is changing, as it is in most of the remaining functional cities.

Posted by: CppThis at December 17, 2022 12:41 PM (UewuT)

180 Thanks for the tip, Anna. Haven't been to the Midway in forever. Used to get in free thanks to a related volunteer gig that's ended (actually an ugly story directly related to the rot in command of another service). Pretty expensive, the Midway. Have considered becoming a docent there, maybe will.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 17, 2022 12:42 PM (OTzUX)

181 Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 17, 2022 12:39 PM (BdMk6)
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That's nice.

My folks grew up in southside Chicago, so they didn't exactly encourage us kids to go out caroling.

Saw it on TV though.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:42 PM (lTC1F)

182
We don't need Buckley, we need Franco.
Posted by: somedood
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*cough*

Gen. Pinochet

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2022 12:42 PM (eZV9h)

183 This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: The Man From Nantucket at December 17, 2022 12:42 PM (DhOHl)

184 Our plan is to move to one of them places where people say "why the hell would you want to live there?"

*taps nose*
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at December 17, 2022 12:29 PM (UQUAY)

Ooh! That's already happened to us! Couple of snooty Boulderites took it to the next level.

Posted by: Emmie at December 17, 2022 12:43 PM (Emce2)

185 {{{SMH}}}
* Respectful tip of the hat to Ex-Ex. *

May the true meaning of Christmas surround you and yours.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at December 17, 2022 12:43 PM (u82oZ)

186 Thanks, Salty. : )

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:43 PM (sHJwp)

187 KT

Thank you for that Albert Hall link. Amazing.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at December 17, 2022 12:43 PM (u82oZ)

188 I got yer figgy pudding right here, pal.

Posted by: Your neighbor who grew up in Brooklyn at December 17, 2022 12:44 PM (DhOHl)

189
Students at elite, woke NYC university have occupied campus and are demanding A-grades for everyone

That's just another route, besides "free college for everyone", that'll make any college diploma fit for nothing more than wiping one's ass in a very short time from now.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 17, 2022 12:44 PM (pNxlR)

190 Ex-Ex is working, installing some data ports somewhere.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:44 PM (sHJwp)

191 Historically, San Diego in general was a fairly conservative area due to the strong military influence. But it's my understanding that this is changing, as it is in most of the remaining functional cities.
Posted by: CppThis at December 17, 2022 12:41 PM (UewuT)

As I recall, Filthy Filner was a Republican, the mayor who got caught doing... I don't remember exactly what now. I assume he wasn't really a "conservative," but he did have an R behind his name.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 12:44 PM (em/6J)

192 Oh, and yes I've been to the Hotel Del Coronado a time or two, but never stayed there.

Posted by: CppThis at December 17, 2022 12:44 PM (UewuT)

193 Only time I ever went caroling or even saw carolers was when I was a kid living in Mississippi. Of course, that may or may not have been more than 29 years ago, but nobody wanted to kill us, no matter how bad our singing was.

It was an awesome way to get food.

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 17, 2022 12:44 PM (wNDOJ)

194 They want to wash us out. Barron's round table said possible market drop 16 to 20%.
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It really, truly is the plan. Great Reset and all that.

And it's working. 63% of households are now living paycheck to paycheck, including households earning more than $100K/year.

And, like you said, it's just getting started.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:45 PM (nMXLX)

195 Oh, I love Coronado island - and the Del Mar hotel is quite spectacular and very expensive but a nice splurge.

Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at December 17, 2022 12:45 PM (oX3MH)

196 A Friday dump means the "news" gleaned from it will be mostly online. On twitter itself. So maybe the thought is, the resulting narrative is less spun by corporate media.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 12:40 PM (em/6J)

Well, that makes sense.

Although, by the time Monday rolls around, the mainstream media can downplay it and the average American remains in the dark.

Posted by: Emmie at December 17, 2022 12:46 PM (Emce2)

197 Elon Musk's following grew by 500k in the past week.

Posted by: kallisto at December 17, 2022 12:46 PM (dCxaZ)

198 This country's education system is something Rush Limbaugh rarely talked about until his last few years. It's at the root of everything that's going wrong in this nation.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 17, 2022 11:53 AM (BdMk6)

As an article from FrontPageMag J.J. linked to yesterday said "burn it all down to the ground and start over".

Like I've said numerous times, when you're drinking poison, the first thing to do when you realize it, is to stop drinking the poison, FFS. And that's what our education system today is.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 17, 2022 12:46 PM (4oBWf)

199 I grew up in the South. At Christmas time, a group of us went around the block caroling. In retrospect, the odd thing is that there were no adults involved. I suspect that the older girls in the neighborhood organized it.

We're talking 10-16 year-olds. It was a different time, of course, and everyone knew everyone. Probably half of the neighborhood had a kid who was one of the group. What I recall is the crisp night winter air, and how much we all enjoyed the spirit of the thing.

I suppose that now, there is an app for that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2022 12:47 PM (d9q+b)

200 Emmie

You all settled in?

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at December 17, 2022 12:47 PM (u82oZ)

201 "Are The Woke ready to have psychology defunded?"

Are you ready to have your Second Amendment rights stripped from you by woke psychologists using "red flag" laws?

Posted by: SDN at December 17, 2022 12:47 PM (roWCJ)

202 So how long did Musk suspend the doxxers anyway? Did they get the seven day treatment?

My guess is that he told each of them that if they did it again, they would be permabanned.

Lib: I won't do it again
Musk: I believe you, but it's not going to save you. (guess the movie)

Posted by: Archimedes at December 17, 2022 12:47 PM (eOEVl)

203 I don't understand the thinking of those who call doxxing free speech.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 17, 2022 12:48 PM (eGTCV)

204 Coronado Island is nice, but Navy berthing is cheaper LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 17, 2022 12:49 PM (Irn0L)

205 stop drinking the poison, FFS. And that's what our education system today is.
Posted by: Chairborne!
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Agreed, the problem is how, realistically, to regain normalcy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2022 12:49 PM (d9q+b)

206 Are you ready to have your Second Amendment rights stripped from you by woke psychologists using "red flag" laws?
Posted by: SDN
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Some of us have been ready for quite some time.

Fortunately for some of us, we gonna defend ourselves regardless of what some shrink says.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:49 PM (sHJwp)

207 Musk: I believe you, but it's not going to save you. (guess the movie)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 17, 2022 12:47 PM (eOEVl)

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Musk has a particular set of skills.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 17, 2022 12:49 PM (u73oe)

208 No actual TBDs exist on land. 11 are with the Lexington wreck in the Coral Sea, two are at Jaluit, and one is off Florida.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 17, 2022 12:33 PM (XSAJB)

Being at the bottom of the ocean seemed to be their natural habitat (sadly, for their crews).

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 17, 2022 12:50 PM (4oBWf)

209 I don't understand the thinking of those who call doxxing free speech.
Posted by: That NLurker
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That's the crux of the problem. These people are psychologically damaged. There is no way of reaching them using logic, or argument.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2022 12:51 PM (d9q+b)

210 Whoa! Is that our own Heather Radish who tweeted the Peanuts cartoon?

And is she still "our own" if she never comments here anymore?

Posted by: Emmie at December 17, 2022 12:51 PM (Emce2)

211 https://www.thenewneo.com /robert barnes what crimes-are revealed by the twitter files and what issues are raised in kari lakes lawsuit
https://tinyurl.com/mpvh5k9t

Bottom of the 2 videos is very informative

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2022 12:52 PM (xhxe8)

212 Had our company Christmas party at the KC Curling club last night where I learned how to curl. It was fun, but I’m feeling it today.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 17, 2022 12:53 PM (u73oe)

213 Singer songwriter Shirley Eikhard, best known for 1991 Grammy hit "Something to Talk About", dies at age 67.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 17, 2022 12:53 PM (Vwz3I)

214 That's the crux of the problem. These people are psychologically damaged. There is no way of reaching them using logic, or argument.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2022 12:51 PM (d9q+b)

Agreed. The only way to reach them is with an actual Hammer, IMO. Pun intended Mike. Heh.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 17, 2022 12:53 PM (4oBWf)

215 90 There probably is a principle aspect here, but I suspect Musk also thinks something about Twitter will be of use on Mars. Detractors have started noting how wildly diverse Musk's interests are, but if you think about each company as part of a whole Mars colonization package it makes more sense.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 12:09 PM (nC+QA)

Musk has stated that he wants humanity to become a multi-planetary species. That can't happen if the ones that remain on Earth end themselves at the behest of an aggressively self destructive strain of social collectivism that old Twitter was amplifying. Plus, the whole Mars thing falls apart if the said mob mentality brings everything down before he gets there and the powers that be are eagerly searching for another p(l)andemic to finish what they started in 2020.

Posted by: CppThis at December 17, 2022 12:53 PM (UewuT)

216 @rawsalerts · 16h
🚨#BREAKING: Shots fired reported at Ford Assembly

📌#Wayne l #Michigan

Police are on scene to reports of shots fired at the Ford Assembly Plant unconfirmed reports say a female fired multiple times at a vehicle because he was cheating on her and ran into into the factory

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 17, 2022 12:53 PM (Vwz3I)

217 Musk has a particular set of skills.

Heh. I just noticed that what he says is grammatically incorrect.

"What I do have are a very particular set of skills." Set is singular, so it should be "What I do have IS a very particular set of skills".

Posted by: Archimedes at December 17, 2022 12:53 PM (eOEVl)

218 Singer songwriter Shirley Eikhard, best known for 1991 Grammy hit "Something to Talk About", dies at age 67.
Posted by: andycanuck

Waaay too young.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2022 12:54 PM (qoGsy)

219 You all settled in?
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at December 17, 2022 12:47 PM (u82oZ)

Hi, Salty! Yes, the former house is sold and we are busy settling into our new home town. Our family is colonizing the area, but the natives do not seem alarmed.

Posted by: Emmie at December 17, 2022 12:55 PM (Emce2)

220 One curious thing I do remember from early childhood; the nomenclatures of US Navy fighting ships, for some reason, especially the ones my dad served on.

The last one, the USS Worden (CG-1

is now currently sitting on the bottom of the Pacific off the coast of Hawai'i.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 12:55 PM (sHJwp)

221 Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:45 PM (nMXLX)

Those making over 100k having trouble must be in San Fran or NYC. Live within your means is the best advice you can give to young people today. Unfortunately I bet less than 10% do. I actually grew up with philosophy of live beneath your means. Far less stress.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 12:56 PM (dQoNW)

222 Musk: I believe you, but it's not going to save you. (guess the movie)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 17, 2022 12:47 PM (eOEVl)

—————-

Musk has a particular set of skills.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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"He should have armed himself... If he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2022 12:56 PM (ej/KZ)

223 Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 12:40 PM (em/6J)

Well, that makes sense.

Although, by the time Monday rolls around, the mainstream media can downplay it and the average American remains in the dark.
Posted by: Emmie
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On the other hand they don't get to spin it before those that care have had the opportunity, while they are in the Hampton's, to glean it.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 17, 2022 12:56 PM (IjhTR)

224 That's the crux of the problem. These people are psychologically damaged. There is no way of reaching them using logic, or argument.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2022 12:51 PM

"You cannot reason someone out of an opinion they did not first reason themselves into."

And this applies to the vast majority of Leftist women, who seem to control everything nowadays, including the school system, so they have passed on their culture of lack of reason and accountability to the past two generations:

("How do you write women so well?")

"I think of a man. And then I take away reason and accountability."

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 17, 2022 12:57 PM (Do5/p)

225 Police are on scene to reports of shots fired at the Ford Assembly Plant unconfirmed reports say a female fired multiple times at a vehicle because he was cheating on her and ran into into the factory
Posted by: andycanuck
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Bought a Chevy?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2022 12:57 PM (ej/KZ)

226 I actually grew up with philosophy of live beneath your means. Far less stress.
Posted by: polynikes

That's madness!!

-- Far too many of the younger crowd

Posted by: Tonypete at December 17, 2022 12:57 PM (qoGsy)

227 As I recall, Filthy Filner was a Republican…

Nope, Democrat. Hard to blame you for not knowing, though, as the newspapers kept that out of the articles about his offenses or at least hidden to the end. (See link in nic.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 17, 2022 12:57 PM (EXyHK)

228 222 "He should have armed himself... If he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2022 12:56 PM (ej/KZ)

Bari Weiss may not deserve Musk's ire, but deserve's got nothin' to do with it.

Posted by: CppThis at December 17, 2022 12:58 PM (UewuT)

229 Police are on scene to reports of shots fired at the Ford Assembly Plant unconfirmed reports say a female fired multiple times at a vehicle because he was cheating on her and ran into into the factory
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 17, 2022 12:53 PM (Vwz3I)

It's the Detroit way of ending a relationship.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 17, 2022 12:58 PM (BdMk6)

230 Those making over 100k having trouble must be in San Fran or NYC. Live within your means is the best advice you can give to young people today. Unfortunately I bet less than 10% do. I actually grew up with philosophy of live beneath your means. Far less stress.
Posted by: polynikes
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I can absolutely understand it. We do okay, but we've got two teenagers. The youngest hasn't started eating like a teenager yet, but he will be, soon. And groceries have doubled in price in the last two years.

I can absolutely see how folks have moved from saving money to hand to mouth, especially if they are having to buy cars or fix HVAC units or something similar. Even setting money aside for a rainy day can't account for doubling and trebling of prices almost overnight.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:58 PM (nMXLX)

231 Ode to Joy flash mob. Pretty cool.

https://tinyurl.com/3b4jv2t3

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 17, 2022 12:59 PM (Xrfse)

232 I know what you’re thinking. Did he tweet six times or only five?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 17, 2022 12:59 PM (u73oe)

233 We're talking 10-16 year-olds. It was a different time, of course, and everyone knew everyone. Probably half of the neighborhood had a kid who was one of the group. What I recall is the crisp night winter air, and how much we all enjoyed the spirit of the thing.

I suppose that now, there is an app for that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

When my oldest son was in Scouts, there were a couple of Christmases when they went around and caroled, and tried to identify and go to the homes of the old and shut in folks who couldn't get out. The singing wasn't great, but there was a lot of heart in it.
We've all lost a lot in the ensuing years.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at December 17, 2022 01:01 PM (tjZg/)

234 You can't handle the tweets!

Posted by: Archimedes at December 17, 2022 01:01 PM (eOEVl)

235 The really crappy part is knowing people aren't able to save right now, or are even dipping into their seed corn, just to tread water.

Two years after the best economy in 50 years.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 01:01 PM (nMXLX)

236 Bari Weiss may not deserve Musk's ire, but deserve's got nothin' to do with it.
Posted by: CppThis
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Heh. Nice.

Posted by: Bill Munny at December 17, 2022 01:01 PM (clWQn)

237 I'm just now scanning the tv listing for what kind of sports are on today, and at noon there's a college football bowl ganme called the "Crickets Celebration Bowl". I gotta think this has something to do with the globalist let them eat crickets plot. I'll pass on this one.

Posted by: From about that time at December 17, 2022 11:51 AM

Looked it up. It's Cricket (singular) Celebration Bowl.

Why is a college football bowl celebrating the sport of cricket?

(In all seriousness, Cricket is the sponsor company, Cricket Wireless)

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 17, 2022 01:01 PM (Do5/p)

238

A mule is an animal with long funny ears
He kicks up at anything he hears
His back is brawny but his brain is weak
He's just plain stupid with a stubborn streak
And by the way, if you hate to go to school
You may grow up to be a mule

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 17, 2022 01:01 PM (63Dwl)

239 Ode to Joy flash mob. Pretty cool.

https://tinyurl.com/3b4jv2t3
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 17, 2022 12:59 PM (Xrfse)

There's a Hallelujah Chorus flash mob I enjoy.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 17, 2022 01:01 PM (eGTCV)

240 Late to the thread but that Ode To Joy in English was great. I never knew the meaning of the German. Understanding the words makes a superb song even superber.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at December 17, 2022 01:02 PM (AiZBA)

241 "Who was Beethoven?"

Well, he was no Frank Zappa.

Posted by: fd at December 17, 2022 01:02 PM (iayUP)

242 215 90 There probably is a principle aspect here, but I suspect Musk also thinks something about Twitter will be of use on Mars. Detractors have started noting how wildly diverse Musk's interests are, but if you think about each company as part of a whole Mars colonization package it makes more sense.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
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Yup.

If there is a Mars place for Twitter it may be as his experiment in governance. His allowing a vote on those who tried to physically harm his family is very democratic.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 17, 2022 01:02 PM (IjhTR)

243 Fill your timeline, you son of a bitch!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 17, 2022 01:03 PM (u73oe)

244 Why is a college football bowl celebrating the sport of cricket?
(In all seriousness, Cricket is the sponsor company, Cricket Wireless)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 17, 2022 01:01 PM (Do5/p)

Kollege football would celebrate genital warts if it makes them money.

The First Anal Poulon Weed Whacker Genital Warts Bowl has a nice rung to it...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 17, 2022 01:04 PM (R/m4+)

245 A mule is an animal with long funny ears
He kicks up at anything he hears
His back is brawny but his brain is weak
He's just plain stupid with a stubborn streak
And by the way, if you hate to go to school
You may grow up to be a mule
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 17, 2022 01:01 PM (63Dwl)

I occasionally chat with a guy who was, maybe still is, a hunting guide. He believes mules are on the trails than horses.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 17, 2022 01:04 PM (eGTCV)

246 And is she still "our own" if she never comments here anymore?
Posted by: Emmie at December 17, 2022 12:51 PM (Emce2)

Yes, that's our Heather Radish. As to not being "our" Radish if she doesn't comment, the Horde is like a gang. You're only out if *we* say you're out, and I for one say she isn't out.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 01:04 PM (nC+QA)

247 A mule is an animal with long funny ears
He kicks up at anything he hears
His back is brawny but his brain is weak
He's just plain stupid with a stubborn streak
And by the way, if you hate to go to school
You may grow up to be a mule
Posted by: Bertram Cabot
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My favorite verse:

Or would you like to swing on a star
Carry moonbeams home in a jar
And be better off than you are
Or would you rather be a pig?

Always seemed like an easy call to me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2022 01:05 PM (S5P0o)

248 There probably is a principle aspect here, but I suspect Musk also thinks something about Twitter will be of use on Mars. Detractors have started noting how wildly diverse Musk's interests are, but if you think about each company as part of a whole Mars colonization package it makes more sense.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 12:09 PM

Yep. I posted yesterday a link to the YouTube video talking about Musk/Tesla involvement with the Tiny Smart House movement. It states in the video that they are engineered to be used also on Mars.

https://bit.ly/3uVYIuN

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 17, 2022 01:05 PM (Do5/p)

249 221 Those making over 100k having trouble must be in San Fran or NYC. Live within your means is the best advice you can give to young people today. Unfortunately I bet less than 10% do. I actually grew up with philosophy of live beneath your means. Far less stress.
Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 12:56 PM (dQoNW)

Not just those cities, most of the places the 100k jobs can be found are hugely expensive now. I was paying almost $1800/month for a fairly basic apartment in suburban Minnesota, food etc. prices bumped up too. I actually didn't notice the inflation all that much because it coincided with moving away from rich boy land. MN is like CA, really great if you got when the getting was good in the 80s or have dynastic connections but fuck you boi if you're just starting out.

If these guys were smart they'd be pushing remote work hard because they can give their employees a 10% pay cut but 40-50 percent increase in standard of living by just not living within 10 miles of a major city. Come in once or twice a week for meetings if need be, a 90 minute commute's not so bad then.

Posted by: CppThis at December 17, 2022 01:05 PM (UewuT)

250 Our family is colonizing the area, but the natives do not seem alarmed.
Posted by: Emmie

Good plan, get them all moved in and settled before the natives notice you're taking over...
Congrats!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 17, 2022 01:05 PM (qTFh+)

251 >>> Bari Weiss may not deserve Musk's ire, but deserve's got nothin' to do with it.
Posted by: CppThis
-------------------------

Did he fire the smart ass?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 17, 2022 01:05 PM (IjhTR)

252 Looked it up. It's Cricket (singular) Celebration Bowl.
Why is a college football bowl celebrating the sport of cricket?
(In all seriousness, Cricket is the sponsor company, Cricket Wireless)
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Even worse?

Look more closely. Cricket Wireless, the pay as you go, no credit check, market to poor and low-rent consumers, etc. cell phone service (owned by AT&T, but not meant for AT&T consumers who need to pass a credit check) is sponsoring...

A bowl game for HBCUs.

Black schools.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 01:06 PM (nMXLX)

253 Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 12:58 PM (nMXLX)

I was a kid during our last Stagflation period in the 70's. I learned from my father to always prepare for the bad times.

But I agree that it's contrary to part of what has made us a superpower. Being a consumer based economy. But I also understand that If everyone thought like me , we would have never reached the heights we have.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 01:06 PM (dQoNW)

254 Bought a Chevy?
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A newer model!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 17, 2022 01:06 PM (Vwz3I)

255 I don't understand the thinking of those who call doxxing free speech.
Posted by: That NLurker
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That's the crux of the problem. These people are psychologically damaged. There is no way of reaching them using logic, or argument.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

there was a facebook censor about 3 years ago that doxxed a conservative. she was a dot not feather injun in Orlando. she openly joked about how she hoped people would go confront the doxxee. so i doxxed her, her car, her house, and her parents, whom her 30 year old self still lived with on twatter. i doxxed her two mug shots and her maiden name before she divorced and moved back into her mom's house without changing her name. i told her to cut it out, or i'd doxx her work address too. she really pissed me off.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 17, 2022 01:06 PM (3CCua)

256 Hallelujah Chorus flash mob

https://youtu.be/SXh7JR9oKVE

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 17, 2022 01:07 PM (eGTCV)

257 230 My ex ran into a wife of one of the guys I worked with at the grocery. They had five boys, all in their teens, and the poor lady had two shopping carts. She told my ex they were like wolves, throw a box of cereal and some milk on the table and then, gone. I don't know how folks with family and even a decent paying job are making it these days. That was back in the good days when she had problems with food prices.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 17, 2022 01:08 PM (lz5hY)

258 NotoriousBFD, thank you for the Joy.

Posted by: creeper at December 17, 2022 01:09 PM (cTCuP)

259 confront the doxxee. so i doxxed her, her car, her house, and her parents, whom her 30 year old self still lived with on twatter. i doxxed her two mug shots and her maiden name before she divorced and moved back into her mom's house without changing her name.

Must really sukk to be her, she can't even keep a husband past age 30. Did she fall apart *that* quickly?

Posted by: kallisto at December 17, 2022 01:09 PM (dCxaZ)

260 Musk is trying (and has a plan) to "re-invent" Twitter. I don't know any of the details, but...
1) Get rid of the old employees who were part of the problem
2) There was probably no "AI" algorithm to monitor tweets. There were likely thousands of people working to watch tweets and had directions about what to delete or censor. Stop that shit.
3) He wants it to be a more honest and open platform. As people excercise more responsibility, there need to be fewer rules. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people now that WANT chaos and anarchy to tear down our so-called civilization.
4) And one of the symptoms of this is what KT wrote about USD Law School. When may points of view are tolerated and honestly discussed, you can have some freedom. But when one side ones to dominate and censor the "dialogue" and does not even recognize the need for a dialogue of different view points, then civilization decays.
Which is where we are at now.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at December 17, 2022 01:10 PM (tjZg/)

261 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 17, 2022 01:05 PM (Do5/p)

Still what's the connection to Twitter? I believe Twitter was purchased only to pursue Musk's belief in the equal sharing of ideas and opinions, not some technical aspect for Mars colonization.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 01:10 PM (dQoNW)

262 Even worse?

Look more closely. Cricket Wireless, the pay as you go, no credit check, market to poor and low-rent consumers, etc. cell phone service (owned by AT&T, but not meant for AT&T consumers who need to pass a credit check) is sponsoring...

A bowl game for HBCUs.

Black schools.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 01:06 PM

Geez, what are they selling at stadium concession stands... chicken, watermelon and kool-aid?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 17, 2022 01:10 PM (Do5/p)

263 Yes, that's our Heather Radish. As to not being "our" Radish if she doesn't comment, the Horde is like a gang. You're only out if *we* say you're out, and I for one say she isn't out.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 01:04 PM (nC+QA)
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Who is Heather Radish?

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 01:11 PM (sHJwp)

264 BTW, MFM is trying to tie this to fracking...

@rawsalerts · 17h
🚨#BREAKING: A Rare magnitude 5.3 earthquake shakes parts of Texas
📌#Midland | #TX

A rare magnitude 5.3 earthquake has struck near Midland TX with multiple reports of Shaking has been reported in numerous nearby towns with Power outages are occurring in the affected areas

🚨#UPDATE: The USGS is reporting a Magnitude 5.3 Earthquake that was centered just about 10 miles north of Midland, in western Martin County. Officials say this is the 4th strongest quake ever recorded in the state history in Texas

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 17, 2022 01:12 PM (Vwz3I)

265 Look more closely. Cricket Wireless, the pay as you go, no credit check, market to poor and low-rent consumers, etc. cell phone service (owned by AT&T, but not meant for AT&T consumers who need to pass a credit check) is sponsoring...

A bowl game for HBCUs.

Black schools.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 01:06 PM
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lol
Figures.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 01:12 PM (sHJwp)

266 Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 17, 2022 01:08 PM (lz5hY)

Back not too long ago those teen boys would be working and help providing for the family if they were struggling financially,

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 01:12 PM (dQoNW)

267 She told my ex they were like wolves, throw a box of cereal and some milk on the table and then, gone.

I hear this same story over and over from moms of boys. Two women I know who had 3 sons now detest going food shopping, thank God for all the delivery services.
Even the friend who had just one boy also had to feed the hordes who used to show up after sportsball practice. When she informed me the mass quantities they consumed, I was stunned.

Posted by: kallisto at December 17, 2022 01:12 PM (dCxaZ)

268 A bowl game for HBCUs.

Black schools.

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Geez, what are they selling at stadium concession stands... chicken, watermelon and kool-aid?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton

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It's fine. They use "Celebration" in the title so it's not racist to have the no credit check / rent-to-own companies be the sponsor.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 01:13 PM (nMXLX)

269 As our own J.J. Sefton reminded us yesterday in detail, many of our political problems stem from our educational system.

J.J. has his thumb on part, and only part, of the problem. The other part - the worst, to be honest - is the baked in the cake instinct to obey authority that defines Contemporary Conservatism.

As the law givers continue to show their contempt for the citizenry, that many in the citizenry still seem to find virtue in not only a blind obedience to the law ... but celebrate those who enforce the law upon them ... does not bode well for a people that wish to be free.

Posted by: Telecaster at December 17, 2022 01:13 PM (Hm1TO)

270 262 I can guarantee you they're not serving fried chicken and watermelon at my concession stands.

Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann, USMC

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 17, 2022 01:14 PM (lz5hY)

271 256 Hallelujah Chorus flash mob

https://youtu.be/SXh7JR9oKVE
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 17, 2022 01:07 PM (eGTCV)

It moves me to tears. I love the response of the audience.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 17, 2022 01:14 PM (eGTCV)

272 I'll be mentioning this from time to time. If you would enjoy some traditional carols/hymns in the background during the Christmas days, try FBC radio. There may be the occasional sermonette interspersed, but the music is wonderful.
https://www.fbcradio.org/listen/

Here's the play list from the last 20 min. or so:
Time Title Duration
13:12:54 The First Noel 2:56
13:12:36 Station ID 0:19
13:10:29 All Through the Night 2:07
13:06:38 While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks 3:52
13:02:15 O Little One Sweet 4:23
12:58:41 We Three Kings 3:34
12:56:41 Lo, How a Rose E’er Blooming 1:60
12:52:14 I Wonder As I Wander

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 17, 2022 01:15 PM (XsjQp)

273 It's fine. They use "Celebration" in the title so it's not racist to have the no credit check / rent-to-own companies be the sponsor.
Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 01:13 PM (nMXLX)
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Funnily enough, don't have either in my small town.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 01:15 PM (sHJwp)

274 You're only out if *we* say you're out, and I for one say she isn't out.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 01:04 PM (nC+QA)

Same here!

Posted by: Emmie at December 17, 2022 01:15 PM (Emce2)

275 Still what's the connection to Twitter? I believe Twitter was purchased only to pursue Musk's belief in the equal sharing of ideas and opinions, not some technical aspect for Mars colonization.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 01:10 PM

Yeah, in my opinion, Twitter is something completely off of Musk's overall plan for the rest of his companies (EVs, rockets, inexpensive smart homes).

That said, he has been accused of wanting to implant microchips or something in people, for what reason I don't know. Put that together with what he is rumored to want to do with expanding Twitter -- supposedly do better than what Zuckerberg is trying to do with Facebook and Meta -- and I think we need to pay close attention to how Musk evolves Twitter.

I personally think he genuinely is interested in free speech - or at least balancing the playing field - but I think absolutely no one should be trusted. I watch him with skeptical optimism or optimistic skepticism.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 17, 2022 01:15 PM (Do5/p)

276 As the law givers continue to show their contempt for the citizenry, that many in the citizenry still seem to find virtue in not only a blind obedience to the law ... but celebrate those who enforce the law upon them ... does not bode well for a people that wish to be free.
Posted by: Telecaster
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Good point.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 01:16 PM (sHJwp)

277 Are there jobs for teen boys?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 17, 2022 01:16 PM (IjhTR)

278 Geez, what are they selling at stadium concession stands... chicken, watermelon and kool-aid?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 17, 2022 01:10 PM (Do5/p)

Was in New Orleans once for the Bayou Classic.

The bar owners on Bourbon Street were pissed because all the urban utes would party out in the street, smoking weed and slurping purple drank and not spending any money in the bars, clubs and restaurants.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 17, 2022 01:17 PM (R/m4+)

279 I can guarantee you they're not serving fried chicken and watermelon at my concession stands.

I'm so white I'm clear - and I love fried chicken and watermelon.

Posted by: Telecaster at December 17, 2022 01:17 PM (Hm1TO)

280 Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 01:11 PM (sHJwp)

'Ette who used to comment frequently a decade ago. Married a German guy and moved to Germany. Mostly tweets now, and even that isn't super frequent. Mostly about quilting, cats, and beer.

She was kind enough to send me her stash if yarn when she moved, so I have a personal interest.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 01:18 PM (nC+QA)

281 I could go for a big plate of fried chicken right now.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 17, 2022 01:19 PM (u73oe)

282 SMH , Heather Radish is one of The Elder Ones.

Posted by: Eromero at December 17, 2022 01:19 PM (/RDPd)

283 Colts up early on the Vikings 10-0.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 17, 2022 01:20 PM (u73oe)

284 279 Heh. Never saw the movie.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 17, 2022 01:20 PM (lz5hY)

285 I personally think he genuinely is interested in free speech - or at least balancing the playing field - but I think absolutely no one should be trusted. I watch him with skeptical optimism or optimistic skepticism.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 17, 2022 01:15 PM (Do5/p)

Yup. The wait-and-see attitude is good to have. But I gotta admit, it's been fun watching this unfold so far.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 17, 2022 01:20 PM (BdMk6)

286 I could go for a big plate of fried chicken right now.

When can a free man not ? Its cheap, and when done right, friggin' delicious.

Anybody else remember those electric skillets - marketed to be a big surface for frying chicken - back in the early 80s ? My grandma' had one. You could fry a damn good load of chicken in one go on one of those.

Posted by: Telecaster at December 17, 2022 01:21 PM (Hm1TO)

287 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 17, 2022 01:15 PM (Do5/p)

Completely agree about keeping an eye on everyone that may effect you personally. I don't mean mistrust everyone but merely don't concede your trust.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 01:22 PM (dQoNW)

288 I'm so white I'm clear - and I love fried chicken and watermelon.

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*fistbump*

Southern food is good food. I don't know why bigots think "black" is some crucial element in it.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 01:22 PM (nMXLX)

289 Colts up early on the Vikings 10-0.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 17, 2022 01:20 PM (u73oe)

Guys playing for jobs now.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 17, 2022 01:23 PM (anj39)

290 Thanks Polliwog and Eromero.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 01:23 PM (sHJwp)

291 The capture of law schools by one dominant outlook
No. This is NOT the problem. The problem is the dominant outlook is no longer Christian. Only Christianity (out of the three "Western" religions - Progressivism, Islam, Christianity - and paganism) allows for true debate.

Anyone in the "Progressive" religion will not ultimately allow debate on fundamentals of Western civilization.

Posted by: GWB at December 17, 2022 01:24 PM (xwOj+)

292 278 Hairyback, a friend of mine had a little corner store in downtown Erie, PA. Anytime they had some festival or other bullshit, his business would drop through the floor because everybody was patronizing the gypsy ops set up in the park.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 17, 2022 01:24 PM (lz5hY)

293 One of the first Popeyes Fried Chicken opened across the street from us when I was a young teen. It was to me what I imagine crack was to some people.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 01:24 PM (dQoNW)

294 Completely agree about keeping an eye on everyone that may effect you personally. I don't mean mistrust everyone but merely don't concede your trust.
Posted by: polynikes
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Trust but verify.

Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 01:24 PM (sHJwp)

295 Anybody else remember those electric skillets - marketed to be a big surface for frying chicken - back in the early 80s ? My grandma' had one. You could fry a damn good load of chicken in one go on one of those.
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I use a similar one to this day. There are lots of things I prefer using it for, too.

Oil-frying anything is one, in large part because I can take it outside and not stink up the house with the smell of whatever I'm cooking.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 01:24 PM (nMXLX)

296 mmmm, Fried chicken, I could eat half a chicken right now.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 17, 2022 01:24 PM (IjhTR)

297 I'm just now scanning the tv listing for what kind of sports are on today, and at noon there's a college football bowl ganme called the "Crickets Celebration Bowl".
I gotta think this has something to do with the globalist let them eat crickets plot.
I'll pass on this one.

Cricket is a mobile phone company, they sponsor that bowl game. Still more prestigious than the Jimmy Kimmel Bowl, where all of the players have to fellate an anatomically correct statue of Joe Biden before the kickoff.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 17, 2022 01:25 PM (zm+d5)

298 As I recall, Filthy Filner was a Republican…

Nope, Democrat. Hard to blame you for not knowing, though, as the newspapers kept that out of the articles about his offenses or at least hidden to the end. (See link in nic.)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 17, 2022 12:57 PM (EXyHK)

Oh interesting! I wonder why I thought he was an R. I don't think I mixed him up with someone else. There must have been something that threw my brain off. Either at the time, or since.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 01:26 PM (em/6J)

299 Yes, that's our Heather Radish. As to not being "our" Radish if she doesn't comment, the Horde is like a gang. You're only out if *we* say you're out, and I for one say she isn't out.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 01:04 PM (nC+QA)

I don't recall why she left, I think there was a reason. I hope it wasn't Trump.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 01:27 PM (em/6J)

300 Oh interesting! I wonder why I thought he was an R
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Another successful media effort.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 01:27 PM (nMXLX)

301 Anybody else remember those electric skillets - marketed to be a big surface for frying chicken - back in the early 80s ? My grandma' had one. You could fry a damn good load of chicken in one go on one of those.
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My father made Swiss Steak ( round steak) in that electric skillet . Set on low and allowed to simmer for awhile. I guess this was before crock pots became a thing. Only way to make round steak tender. Man was it good.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2022 01:27 PM (dQoNW)

302 NotoriousBFD, thank you for the Joy.

My pleasure. Brings a tear to me curmudgeonly eye every time I watch it.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 17, 2022 01:28 PM (Xrfse)

303 Electric skillets are really great for making one-pot red beans and rice or dirty rice or other similar rice-based dishes. Brown the meat and whatever else you want in it, add the rice and water or broth, cover and wait. Turns out great pretty much every time.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 01:29 PM (nMXLX)

304 #264 Update:

@AP · 16h
BREAKING: One of the strongest earthquakes in Texas history has struck in a western region of the state that's home to oil and fracking activity. There were no immediate reports of damage or injuries in the quake near Midland.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 17, 2022 01:29 PM (Vwz3I)

305 Vikings are getting walloped.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 17, 2022 01:30 PM (u73oe)

306 Cricket is a mobile phone company, they sponsor that bowl game. Still more prestigious than the Jimmy Kimmel Bowl, where all of the players have to fellate an anatomically correct statue of Joe Biden before the kickoff.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 17, 2022 01:25 PM (zm+d5)

I love Jimmy Kimmel's "Christmas Time In The LBC".

Fat Santa in a sleigh giving shits away...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 17, 2022 01:30 PM (R/m4+)

307 Completely agree about keeping an eye on everyone that may effect you personally. I don't mean mistrust everyone but merely don't concede your trust.
Posted by: polynikes
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Trust but verify.
Posted by: SMH that God hasn't lobbed a Texas-sized asteroid at us yet at December 17, 2022 01:24 PM (sHJwp)

Yeah, on a personal level, I can look back and see what my gut was telling me, and ignored it or looked at it as benign.

Why? Because I wanted what I wanted.

This happens in personal relationships, as well as macro/political ones.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 01:30 PM (em/6J)

308 Oh interesting! I wonder why I thought he was an R
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Another successful media effort.
Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 01:27 PM (nMXLX)

Not necessarily. I was mostly paying attention here as that story unfolded, and got very little if any information from corporate media.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2022 01:32 PM (em/6J)

309 Are there jobs for teen boys?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman

If help wanted signs are anything to judge by, fast food joints are desperate for workers. Not a glamour profession but I myself was formerly a McWorker.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 17, 2022 01:32 PM (FVME7)

310 If they had been fracking there would have been no earthquake. That reinjected solution greases the skids and cuts the friction.

It could be CA's lifesaver but they'll never take it.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 17, 2022 01:32 PM (IjhTR)

311 Anybody else remember those electric skillets - marketed to be a big surface for frying chicken - back in the early 80s ? My grandma' had one. You could fry a damn good load of chicken in one go on one of those.
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My father made Swiss Steak ( round steak) in that electric skillet . Set on low and allowed to simmer for awhile. I guess this was before crock pots became a thing. Only way to make round steak tender. Man was it good.
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My mom's chicken cacciatore. Same comments. [BTW, four boys in our family.]

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 17, 2022 01:32 PM (Vwz3I)

312 GARDEN NOOD IS BLOOMING

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2022 01:33 PM (xhxe8)

313 Vikings have always played a late season Saturday game, was way more fun to watch in a snow storm

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2022 01:34 PM (xhxe8)

314 Vikings are getting walloped.
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Well, when you're fighting a guy named Alfred the Great, you should be expecting a tougher fight.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 17, 2022 01:34 PM (Vwz3I)

315 That said, he has been accused of wanting to implant microchips or something in people, for what reason I don't know.

The advertised plan is to allow paraplegics the ability to move their limbs by thinking, so even if it's not automatic it's less cumbersome than using a joystick or something.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 17, 2022 01:34 PM (zm+d5)

316 My ex could cook an entire Thanksgiving meal in a big electric skillet with one of those high dome lids. Very practical cooking appliance. I picked up a Thermidor range, like a Jen Air and installed it and she did some of her best cooking with the skillet. I think the dent on the Thermidor when it fell off the back of a truck disturbed her.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 17, 2022 01:35 PM (lz5hY)

317 The advertised plan is to allow paraplegics the ability to move their limbs by thinking, so even if it's not automatic it's less cumbersome than using a joystick or something.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Rerouting neural pathways.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 17, 2022 01:36 PM (IjhTR)

318 If Kirk Cousins is the answer, it was a stupid question.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 17, 2022 01:40 PM (u73oe)

319 Back not too long ago those teen boys would be working and help providing for the family if they were struggling financially

Yep.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 17, 2022 01:40 PM (Xrfse)

320 The Ode to Joy sort of flashmob is great, but it's a shame that the little girl seem (and was*) scripted. Imagine if a little kid that was unrelated to it was involved.

* IIRC it was done as a commercial for a bank.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 17, 2022 01:45 PM (nMXLX)

321 If Kirk Cousins is the answer, it was a stupid question.
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"Who doesn't Captain Kirk bang?"??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 17, 2022 01:48 PM (Vwz3I)

322 Duke Mayonnaise is sponsoring a bowl game.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 17, 2022 01:50 PM (n1JsZ)

323 The Friday Cafe did disappear off the chart

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2022 01:52 PM (xhxe8)

324 BTW, MFM is trying to tie this to fracking...

@rawsalerts · 17h
🚨#BREAKING: A Rare magnitude 5.3 earthquake shakes parts of Texas
📌#Midland | #TX]/i]

Speaking as a local resident, there's a good chance the fracking angle's true. As best I can tell, there are no significant fault lines in the area, but a stress-strain map tells a different story.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 17, 2022 01:58 PM (ZSK0i)

325 >>I personally think he genuinely is interested in free speech - or at least balancing the playing field - but I think absolutely no one should be trusted. I watch him with skeptical optimism or optimistic skepticism.

Despite the lack of media coverage Musk has just revealed the largest violation of 1st Amendment rights by the government in US history and they did it using a lie they helped Hillary invent and propagate. If the FBI had done this on behalf of Republicans the country would be on fire right now.

I don't know if Musk is sincere in his claim that he is doing this to preserve free speech and pretty much the country as we know it or he's doing it for selfish reasons but he's done more to expose the corruption in this country than anyone I can think of at great personal cost. I'm sure he will do something I don't like but he's earned a ton of respect from me.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 17, 2022 01:59 PM (ZLI7S)

326 On the Cafe disappearance, I clean out my history often and did this morning. But if I didn't wonder if you could go to it by that?
For all the playing I do when the blog breaks still not sure if it would work or a blank would show up.

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2022 02:07 PM (xhxe8)

327 Definitely the Eff Bee Eye was breaking wholesale the 1st Amendment by proxy

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2022 02:09 PM (xhxe8)

328 I don't know if Musk is sincere in his claim that he is doing this to preserve free speech and pretty much the country as we know it or he's doing it for selfish reasons but he's done more to expose the corruption in this country than anyone I can think of at great personal cost. I'm sure he will do something I don't like but he's earned a ton of respect from me.

I have become such a cynic that a wait-and-see attitude is ingrained in me. I agree that on the surface, his actions so far are admirable. I have no way of knowing what the underpinnings are and won't even try to speculate. Gonna let this one play out. Heh, I have little choice.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 17, 2022 02:21 PM (Xrfse)

329 Definitely the Eff Bee Eye was breaking wholesale the 1st Amendment by proxy
Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2022 02:09 PM (xhxe

By proxy? The FIB was having meetings twice a week with them.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 17, 2022 02:22 PM (BdMk6)

330 ...and thanks much for the thread, K.T.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 17, 2022 02:25 PM (Xrfse)

331 By proxy? The FIB was having meetings twice a week with them.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons
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and first name basis telephone calls

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 17, 2022 02:29 PM (IjhTR)

332 Cool thread KT

Our Gleichschaltung has been slower than their Gleichschaltung but it will eventually be as complete.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 17, 2022 02:30 PM (EZebt)

333 Yes, they met, told Twitter what they wanted and Twitter did their dirty work.
Fascism at its purest

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2022 02:30 PM (xhxe8)

334 Definitely the Eff Bee Eye was breaking wholesale the 1st Amendment by proxy
Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2022 02:09 PM (xhxe

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I broke this news to my idiot lib friends back east and they did not have much to say.

Oh, wait. They said, "OrangeManBad!"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 17, 2022 02:34 PM (EZebt)

335 Oh, wait. They said, "OrangeManBad!"

Somewhere in there is a "denial is not a river" meme.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 17, 2022 02:36 PM (Xrfse)

336 Yes, that's our Heather Radish. As to not being "our" Radish if she doesn't comment, the Horde is like a gang. You're only out if *we* say you're out, and I for one say she isn't out.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 17, 2022 01:04 PM (nC+QA)

I don't recall why she left,

IIRC she got married and moved to Germany.

Posted by: DaveA at December 17, 2022 02:52 PM (FhXTo)

337 Lib little sister lived in San Diego for a few years, there is a photo of us taken in front of Hotel del Coronado on my mantel

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 17, 2022 02:54 PM (EZebt)

338 I don't know if Musk is sincere in his claim that he is doing this to preserve free speech and pretty much the country as we know it or he's doing it for selfish reasons but he's done more to expose the corruption in this country than anyone I can think of at great personal cost. I'm sure he will do something I don't like but he's earned a ton of respect from me.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 17, 2022 01:59 PM

Exactly. This is my opinion of Musk and also my opinion of President Trump and Ron DeSantis. I do not consider any of them perfect or correct on everything and definitely do not hold them up as saviors or whatever else. They are simply people who are doing certain things with which I agree. When they do things with which I do not agree, I will call them out on it. When they do things with which I agree, I will praise them for it.

But I will not praise them in general or smear them in general. I will judge their individual actions and treat them as people, not celebrities or gods. I wish more people would do the same. Too much hero-worship among society today. Such that if someone is great in one area, they are treated as infallible in all areas.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 17, 2022 03:07 PM (Do5/p)

339 From what I understand, they smelled pot everywhere, got sick of the politics, could not relate to the locals, and felt most of the "conservatives" were too listless, cowardly and Bush-like to effectively fight back, so they left.
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Heh. Sounds like the Puget Sound.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at December 17, 2022 03:19 PM (Qrct5)

340 PET NOOD

Posted by: Skip at December 17, 2022 03:32 PM (xhxe8)

341 Academics who want honest discussions without fear of reprisal are beginning to find each other through independent chat rooms using anonymous handles to protect identities. I recently read about a group of anthropologists who are networking this way. They can have open discussion of all kinds of perspectives and viewpoints, discussing recent archeological finds minus the need to couch them in woke terms. Sadly, if they attempted to do this in their own departments or circles, they would be branded and burned at the stake for heresy. We must have each others’ backs and speak out in support of those even when they have different viewpoints. We must not allow the bullies to wiin and shut down honest opinions and discussion.

Posted by: Annie Rose at December 17, 2022 03:48 PM (c+Du/)

342 It is important to remember that all teachers are Marxists. Now, as has been recently demonstrated by the drive of teachers to change your child's gender, all teachers are perverts.
Now, I realize the temptation of Republicans to point out the fallacy of universal statements. But, if they can restrain themselves from bashing somebody they agree with on most things for just one second. Teachers who belong to a union and work for a government make that their primary concern. When the Union wants to talk about sex with kiddies, teachers go along. So even though they are not personally perverts, the agree with right of the Union to force perversion down kiddie's throats, so to speak.
Thus, all teachers are Marxists and Perverts.

Posted by: william ferrin at December 17, 2022 03:50 PM (trhVQ)

343 San Diego used to be a great place, I thought about wanting to retire there....now not so much. Speaking of how the mighty have fallen, a great read on the history of Europe at zerohedge.

https://tinyurl.com/y59kw8b6

Posted by: computerguydave at December 17, 2022 03:53 PM (tahWp)

344 Also, one thing I admire about the USD Law School conversion to Marxism is that it highlights the talent that Republicans have to always avoid the fight, always avoid standing up for principles, and run. Run as fast as you can to a place where you think you will be sheltered from having to defend your principles. Republicans will always quit rather than confront a Democrat.
Consider that the NRO crowd, the most fervent element of anti-Trumpism, spent years defining and discussing Republican principles. Then as soon as a candidate emerged who would embrace those principles, they ran as fast as they could to oppose him.
Now again, we are seeing Republicans run as fast as they can to avoid confrontation. "McConnell is corrupt!", they cry. But nobody wants to confront McConnell. Has anybody at least called his office? If Democrats are indeed Marxists and Perverts, at what point should a Christian refuse to be accommodating to them?

Posted by: william ferrin at December 17, 2022 04:00 PM (30GVr)

345 Now again, we are seeing Republicans run as fast as they can to avoid confrontation. "McConnell is corrupt!", they cry. But nobody wants to confront McConnell. Has anybody at least called his office? If Democrats are indeed Marxists and Perverts, at what point should a Christian refuse to be accommodating to them?
Posted by: william ferrin at December 17, 2022 04:00 PM (30GVr)

Yep they reelected one of the most hated and corrupt pols in the country as minority leader. Sickens me

Posted by: CN at December 17, 2022 04:50 PM (Zzbjj)

346 Had to wait to comment #32 for that analogy? God you people are sleeping on the job.

Posted by: go get your fuckin shine box at December 17, 2022 05:02 PM (WusEB)

347 Late to the party, but yes, we loved on special occasions to go to the Hotel Del for their Sunday brunch, and scope out the gift shops on the ground-floor level/basement. The food was always scrumptious. The year that I was stationed in Korea, I had my holiday halfway through - my daughter and I took the car ferry across to Coronado Island, rented bikes, and rode through the Island, before stopping for lunch at the Hotel Del. A lovely place.
We also used to love going to the Horton Plaza Mall, when it was in it's prime. https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/62595.html

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 17, 2022 05:28 PM (xnmPy)

348 KT thanks for that USD piece. One of my kids went to law school there and confirms. She had two classes with Gail Heriot who she absolutely loved. No longer there but occasionally writes for instapundit.

Posted by: keena at December 17, 2022 05:59 PM (RiTnx)

349 "That what we have we prize not to the worth
Whiles we enjoy it, but being lacked and lost,
Why, then we rack the value, then we find
The virtue that possession would not show us
While it was ours."

Joni Mitchell said it better.

Posted by: go get your fuckin shine box at December 17, 2022 06:03 PM (WusEB)

350 Unusual earthquake in Texas, you say?

Isaiah 24:20
"The earth staggers like a drunkard and sways like a shack. Earth’s rebellion weighs it down, and it falls, never to rise again."

Maybe fracking is a factor, or maybe our flipping off G-d, methinks Sodom and Gomorrah got nothin' on us.

What's that you say? There's a massive caldera in Yellowstone, too?

Dang.

Posted by: Ju at December 17, 2022 07:39 PM (aTmM/)

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