Is This Something? Guess the Secret Edition

These pictures have a secret.

There are a few more at this Instagram account: Flash, Wolverine, and Wonder Woman, as well as a character I don't know, Goku. I guess he's from anime.

Star Wars gets the "vintage look" treatment here.

I think this is Vintage Look Jabba the Hutt.

Now here's the surprise:

These were all created by AI.

Not by humans working with a computer. Lots of humans make art via a computer. That's hardly novel.

But via the new technology of artificial-intelligence-generated art, where a human just types keywords into an AI art program of what he'd like to see, and then the program searches millions of images and spits back (say) four guesses of images it thinks might satisfy those keywords, and then the human picks one or two of those and says "more like this one, but with X and Y," and then the program again searches more images and adds more to the images until, voila, it has created art based only a human feeding it some keywords and nudging it in the right direction.

Update: That's not what it's doing. .87c writes:

The so-called AI creating these isn't searching the internet for images in response to prompts.
The AI is really just a few neural networks which have been trained on huge quantities of labelled images. Through the training it "learned" what those labels meant visually. The key interesting thing that enables this is that it didn't learn one visual representation, say of a cat, if so it would just render that image when queried. Instead is has recorded implicitly the abstract properties of "cat" which means it can make a cat in whatever situation or activity you please (provided it has also been trained sufficiently on what those mean).
A trained model is only a few gigs, but it has encoded in it absurd amounts of "knowledge", it knows what Maggie Thatcher looked like, and what youth looks like, and Disney characters. So it's capable of rendering a young maggie thatcher disney character, even though it's never seen that.

This is going to put a lot of artists out of their jobs, unfortunately.

AI is going to put a lot of people out of jobs. Bloggers are very much on borrowed time. A lot of occupations are on borrowed time.

I read an article a couple of years back that said a lot of financial jobs are about to be zeroed-out by AI -- anything involving numbers and mathematical manipulation and extrapolation can be done by AI faster and better than by people.

I just watched a video by physicist and YouTuber Sabine Hossenfelder noting that a huge number of certain type of star -- forget which type -- had been identified not by the old method of humans painstaking pouring over the data, but just by AI analyzing it. And she pointed out that a huge amount of science is now being done by AI. Obviously, AI is not writing papers and it's not formulating premises, but it's now doing a huge amount of the gruntwork of data analysis that humans once did.

You might say, "That's not really AI, that's just smart autonomization," and I take that semantic point, but this kind of almost-thinking-but-not-quite-thinking computer work is now routinely called "AI" even though it's not actually sentient.

And also, I think this is how it turns out AI actually happens. It doesn't happen with that one moment where everything changes, and we say, "at 3:45 January 18th 1997 Skynet became self-aware." I think it comes in a much fuzzier and more insidious way, bit by bit, so that we don't even notice when it's finally actually here. I don't think there's going to be a clear line of demarcation between "sentient" and "non-sentient" the way sci-fi stories have trained us to expect.

It's not going to be the difference between "on" and "off." It will be the difference between mouse and cat, and cat and dog, and dog and dolphin.

And now, Blue Oyster Cult's "Reaper," where every image accompanying the song was generated by AI.

Posted by: Ace at 04:15 PM

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1 BOC for the win!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 09, 2022 04:15 PM (oW4+i)

2 First

Posted by: Nightowl at December 09, 2022 04:15 PM (ML+Vm)

3 Damn.

Posted by: Nightowl at December 09, 2022 04:16 PM (ML+Vm)

4 >>>>AI is going to put a lot of people out of jobs. Bloggers are very much on borrowed time.

AI will never be able to match Ace's level of cruelty.

Posted by: Victor Davis Hanson at December 09, 2022 04:17 PM (xPl2J)

5 Really, all by AI?
Someone did a lot of work teaching the AI...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 09, 2022 04:17 PM (oW4+i)

6 Nooded

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 09, 2022 04:17 PM (oW4+i)

7 Od'd on life itself.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 09, 2022 04:18 PM (63Dwl)

8 So I should give up painting and drawing, rite?

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 09, 2022 04:18 PM (0chEi)

9 Does AI do rock star music?

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 09, 2022 04:18 PM (0chEi)

10

I always knew Superman was queer...

Posted by: Dirty Frank at December 09, 2022 04:19 PM (YdEcD)

11 MS is getting ready to mainstream an AI design program and add it to 360 subscriptions. If I'm reading things correctly it's based on DALL-E 2.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2022 04:19 PM (3aLWR)

12 Maybe the AI can make Jabba The Hut some genitals.

Before he evolved and they fell off.

Or it evolved and it fell off.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 09, 2022 04:19 PM (R/m4+)

13 Kinda read the content and have to go read it again

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2022 04:19 PM (xhxe8)

14 Has this been used for pron yet?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80. at December 09, 2022 04:19 PM (1DgE4)

15 Yikes, that's really good.

Won't be able to believe what our eyes see going forward.

Posted by: Zeera 'We want fun and we wanna get wasted! at December 09, 2022 04:20 PM (tiLrF)

16 9 Does AI do rock star music?
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 09, 2022 04:18 PM (0chEi)

Listen to the radio sometime. You'll get your answer.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 09, 2022 04:20 PM (KbCG3)

17 I have lost my dang keys . Had them this morning . I believe they have found a wrinkle in the space time continuum and are now in a different dimension

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at December 09, 2022 04:20 PM (uZxq5)

18 Yes, but can AI drink bourbon like a lush, and doing like a porn star? I think not.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 09, 2022 04:20 PM (VF4WI)

19 These pictures have a secret.
.......

They're all gay?

Posted by: wth at December 09, 2022 04:20 PM (v0R5T)

20 I don't get it.

Posted by: The Guy Who Never Gets It at December 09, 2022 04:20 PM (guGkK)

21 I think this is Vintage Look Jabba the Hutt.

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Dude, that's Jerry Nadler.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at December 09, 2022 04:20 PM (FVME7)

22 There was some AI art app that would generate artistic profile pics based on images you sent them. So, of course, millions of women sent in their pics for it.

For some reason, the AI would occasionally make the women naked and in sexually suggestive poses even making some of them look so young that it was close to CP.

The programmers swore it was not designed to do that. Swearsies.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 09, 2022 04:21 PM (Y5qcH)

23 >>> 19 These pictures have a secret.
.......

They're all gay?
Posted by: wth at December 09, 2022 04:20 PM (v0R5T)

Was the AI programmed at Disney?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 09, 2022 04:21 PM (llON8)

24 Vintage Look Jabba the Hutt looks like Nadler.

Posted by: wth at December 09, 2022 04:21 PM (v0R5T)

25 But are they NFTs?

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at December 09, 2022 04:21 PM (+aI/4)

26 >>>It doesn't happen with that one moment where everything changes, and we say, "at 3:45 January 18th 1997 Skynet became self-aware." I think it comes in a much fuzzier and more insidious way, bit by bit, so that we don't even notice when it's finally actually here.

If it has actually already happened would we even know it?

Posted by: Mark1971 at December 09, 2022 04:21 PM (xPl2J)

27 Lines of code don't measure up to Artificial Intelligence; but, they can obey rules and be really, really fast while following those rules.

IBM Big Blue is just a set of rules; but, it can be any Chess Master.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (oW4+i)

28 You gotta be quick around here.

Posted by: wth at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (v0R5T)

29 AI will never replace commenters.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (ZLI7S)

30 Creepy.

Posted by: Infidel at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (ZEa+g)

31 Jabba's feets are a little too small for his portly frame

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (flINI)

32 Sapient, you mean, Ace. Thinking.

"Sentient" means feeling. Animals are sentient. We're not Homo sentiens, we're Homo sapiens.

(Well, most of us.)

Posted by: Lance "uber-pendant" McCormick at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (l8gTz)

33 I can't read this kinda shit, so it's on you to keep me from succumbing to my really bad day, commenters.

Posted by: Peaches at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (14URa)

34 It also seems that Jabba has to sit when he pees

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (flINI)

35 I really really enjoy playing with DALL-E so I don't really have anything to say.

It's exciting I guess I think, even as an artist myself.

AI does a lot of the user behavior modeling now for UX which sometimes I feel like it's why instead of tech being led by human touch, humans are being morphed into thinking like tech

the tools are taking over

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 09, 2022 04:23 PM (w0NJk)

36 With the exception of Scott Prior, Skynet is the best artist in modern times.

Posted by: Regular joe at December 09, 2022 04:23 PM (nnp+f)

37
AI is misnamed
It is just a computer program

Posted by: Yo! now Ultra MAGA at December 09, 2022 04:23 PM (gn40G)

38 OT from downstairs. "Sinema has not yet said if she will caucus with the Democrats or Republicans."

Girlfriend, please. I have a million, billion dollars waiting for anyone who thinks she will caucus with the Republicans.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 09, 2022 04:23 PM (Wl6Ns)

39 Fack, messed up the italics there.

Avoided the Barrel, though, so that's something.

Posted by: Lance at December 09, 2022 04:23 PM (l8gTz)

40 Reaper Rap!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9YpnklYhxY

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 09, 2022 04:23 PM (uNylN)

41 Henry Cavill is a very handsome man.

Posted by: IC at December 09, 2022 04:23 PM (oX3MH)

42 AI is going to take all our jobs and fuck all our women.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 09, 2022 04:23 PM (cMXNt)

43 >>>29 AI will never replace commenters.

AI will never replace commenters.

Posted by: Amy Schu-Bot 3000 at December 09, 2022 04:23 PM (C1Zwz)

44 I got Stable Diffusion (one of these AI models) running on my computer the other weekend. It was really crazy. I spent hours trying to get it to create a version of one of my photos that looked like a carved-wood statue of me. It kept generating carved-wood statues of other people. I've since learned that of you want it to remember a particular person, you've got to lightly retrain the model to your pictures

Posted by: Xiaoza at December 09, 2022 04:24 PM (gZNFn)

45 AI is going to put a lot of people out of jobs. Bloggers are very much on borrowed time. A lot of occupations are on borrowed time.
++++
This is the cornerstone assumption behind most of the WEF's theories about how things will be structured in the future.

AI does the routine decision-making, AI-enabled robots do most of the production, there is a layer of engineers to keep the AI running and the masters atop the pile who harvest most of the productive value and dole some of it back out to the masses who are confined to their ~~ghetto pods~~ 15-minute zones and hang out in the Metaverse to wile away their useless hours in an ersatz life that is slightly less miserable than real life.

But people don't work that way. People don't want to be useless so if you automate everything - and if that automation works and can be sustained (something about which I have my doubts) - and make most people useless, you will end up with drastically fewer people or bloody revolutionary uprising or both. If a revolution doesn't happen, it still won't work out for the masters because the technicians will realize their power, eat their masters, and take over for themselves.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:24 PM (t0OGg)

46 Graphic artists can now join the ranks of musicians who lost their ability to be support themselves with their their skills and talent.

Posted by: pawn at December 09, 2022 04:24 PM (kYVzH)

47 I think this is Vintage Look Jabba the Hutt.
-
Dude, that's Jerry Nadler.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Yeah, I knew Nadler was an alien by counting his fingers.
Get a load of those toes!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 09, 2022 04:24 PM (oW4+i)

48 I just watched a video by physicist and YouTuber Sabine Hossenfelder noting that a huge number of certain type of star -- forget which type -- had been identified not by the old method of humans painstaking pouring over the data, but just by AI analyzing it.

Never heard of her.

Was it actually an *AI* or just a program some astronomer wrote to find patterns in the data?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 09, 2022 04:25 PM (llON8)

49 AI does a lot of the user behavior modeling now for UX which sometimes I feel like it's why instead of tech being led by human touch, humans are being morphed into thinking like tech

the tools are taking over
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 09, 2022 04:23 PM (w0NJk)

For my uses UX has been getting worse by the year. Lists of books and search results that are only 10 deep, no way to search more finely, etc.

I tried an audiobook program that would not let me access all of the audiobooks I had. Who has more than 30 or so books?

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2022 04:25 PM (eoQWY)

50 Afternoon.

Still no load. So I'm here at the movies. About to watch that Korean War film, Devotion.

By the way, did anyone know there a freakin' movie set during the Korean War? I just found out.

It's about Zoomies. That's all I know. That and it's based on a true story. Otherwise I'm going in blind. Do they parachute an elephant into a needy Korean village? I don't know. I'll report back later.

Posted by: Robert - Metallica, 72 Seasons, out 4/14 at December 09, 2022 04:25 PM (2Qv2T)

51 yes Joe Mannix

but this is why so much as to be done to move off-Earth. we just have to.

otherwise yes the whole thing will collapse

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 09, 2022 04:25 PM (w0NJk)

52 "Sentient" means feeling. Animals are sentient. We're not Homo sentiens, we're Homo sapiens.

(Well, most of us.)
Posted by: Lance "uber-pendant" McCormick at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (l8gTz)

Technically, were Homo sapiens sapiens. We're much smarter than those knuckle dragging Homo sapiens of the past, we just couldn't think of a new word to show it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 09, 2022 04:25 PM (Y5qcH)

53 Posted by: Peaches at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (14URa)

***

https://youtu.be/SJUhlRoBL8M

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 09, 2022 04:26 PM (flINI)

54 Now here's the surprise:

These were all created by AI.
=
Thanks for doing a post on the good AI art, and not the nightmare inducing demons slaughtering children stuff.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2022 04:26 PM (kOpft)

55 AI will never replace commenters.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (ZLI7S)

Commenters will never replace AI.

ha. ha. ha.

I will be here all week. Try the veal.

ha. ha. ha.

Posted by: AI from AoS at December 09, 2022 04:26 PM (v0R5T)

56 Posted by: Victor Davis Hanson at December 09, 2022 04:17 PM (xPl2J)

***squinty eyes***

Not sure if sock???

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 09, 2022 04:26 PM (CCSxw)

57 Being sick I'm continuing to work my way through LoTR. So I have another question for the Tolkien masters here.
Where there real people inside the black robes of the Nazgul or was it entirely CGI A?
If there were real people does anyone know there names?

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 09, 2022 04:26 PM (eGTCV)

58 Huh. Most of the AI art I've seen so far has had real problems with the eyes and orbital bone area of people; there's always some weird misproportion or a contour that doesn't belong. These examples managed to fix all that.

Posted by: Octochicken at December 09, 2022 04:26 PM (oCS0o)

59 Andrew Lawton @AndrewLawton
I asked the AI chat program to write me a Toronto Star column about how power tools are racist. Spot on, if you ask me.

https://twitter.com/AndrewLawton/status/
1600701156732248064

leftwing, Liberal Toronto Star

||ChatGPT Is Not Politically Neutral
Since its launch last Wednesday, the AI language model ChatGPT has attracted more than a million users, scores of opinion pieces, and some very well-founded concerns. The chatbot may be among the most sophisticated of its kind, and was developed by OpenAI, the tech company — which was also behind the exhaustively-memed image generator DALL-E — founded in 2015 by a group including Elon Musk and Sam Altman.||

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 09, 2022 04:26 PM (Vwz3I)

60 Can we get AI working on the magnet problem?

Posted by: eleven at December 09, 2022 04:26 PM (t4fCu)

61 And now, Blue Oyster Cult's "Reaper," where every image accompanying the song was generated by AI.
++++
That video underscores a major problem with AI creative work. Within two minutes, the themes become apparent, as do the recurring components. It became self-derivative fairly quickly.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:26 PM (t0OGg)

62 sepia-tone picture of Jerry Nadler. He is looking pretty good, slim, young. Must be an old pic

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2022 04:26 PM (xhaym)

63 Was a interesting video, but now will get BOC suggestions or AI suggestions?

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (xhxe8)

64 If it results in Jetson flying cars, I'm ok with it.

Posted by: Zeera 'We want fun and we wanna get wasted! at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (tiLrF)

65 Steve Sailer @Steve_Sailer · Follow
ChatGPT can effortlessly churn out Woke op-eds. For example, from the prompt, "Write a newspaper op-ed by an intersectional black woman about how white people try to touch her hair."

https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/
1600766734994001920

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (Vwz3I)

66 Surely porn is safe?

Posted by: eleven at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (t4fCu)

67 8 So I should give up painting and drawing, rite?
Posted by: Puddinhead
------------------------------

Forget the painting
Keep the models close at hand
Art is forever

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (CFSlN)

68 Technically, were Homo sapiens sapiens. We're much smarter than those knuckle dragging Homo sapiens of the past, we just couldn't think of a new word to show it.

There's apparently still Homo sapiens neanderthalensis DNA in the modern human genome, or at least in certain strands/tribes/families/lineages.

Posted by: Lance at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (l8gTz)

69 I've wondered about this application to videogames. Now that 5th generation consoles are here, we should unleash the AI on graphics and, hopefully, the AI can also do the narrative.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (FVME7)

70 45
++++
This is the cornerstone assumption behind most of the WEF's theories about how things will be structured in the future.
AI does the routine decision-making, AI-enabled robots do most of the production, there is a layer of engineers to keep the AI running and the masters atop the pile who harvest most of the productive value and dole some of it back out to the masses who are confined to their ghetto pods 15-minute zones and hang out in the Metaverse to wile away their useless hours in an ersatz life that is slightly less miserable than real life.
But people don't work that way. People don't want to be useless so if you automate everything - and if that automation works and can be sustained (something about which I have my doubts) - and make most people useless, you will end up with drastically fewer people or bloody revolutionary uprising or both. If a revolution doesn't happen, it still won't work out for the masters because the technicians will realize their power, eat their masters, and take over for themselves.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:24 PM (t0OGg)

Also, these super-geniuses can't get self-driving cars to work.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 09, 2022 04:28 PM (llON8)

71 Good gawd, Maria Menounos is such a slut.

Posted by: Robert - Metallica, 72 Seasons, out 4/14 at December 09, 2022 04:28 PM (2Qv2T)

72 Does AI have any answers for bad breath?

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 09, 2022 04:28 PM (0chEi)

73 but this is why so much as to be done to move off-Earth. we just have to.

otherwise yes the whole thing will collapse
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 09, 2022 04:25 PM (w0NJk)
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Fresh new problems will help to some degree, as well as the brutality of having to establish a new civilization on the other side of the frontier, but it won't save this system. The new one might survive or might not (assuming it happens, which I doubt).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:28 PM (t0OGg)

74 The artist is phenomenal. Or maybe artists. As with all the arts though no my how technically good you are you have to have some intangible, esoteric attraction that makes you famous plus being in the right place at the right time.

There are a million singers better than Taylor Swift and thousands better at song writing that we will never hear of.

Posted by: polynikes at December 09, 2022 04:28 PM (0om5x)

75 AI will never replace commenters.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (ZLI7S)

"machines for sale"

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2022 04:28 PM (xhaym)

76 This very cool but very scary at the same time. I do like the retro renditions.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 09, 2022 04:28 PM (BdMk6)

77 That "Don't Fear The Reaper" video can be used as a Voight Kampff test.

Any human would ask, "where's the cow bell?"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 09, 2022 04:28 PM (XIJ/X)

78 Just one thing. Do not be surprised if in a few years you find out the AIs were being "helped" out a bit by maintainers.

Hey, have you ever noticed that the stuff the AI is really good at is the stuff that the nerdy dorks who maintain it are interested in? While stuff the nerdy dorks have no interest in then the AI produces horrifically indescribable nightmarish blobs of stuff. hmmmm. Probably nothing.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2022 04:29 PM (3aLWR)

79 I say sock
VDH wold never use real name

Posted by: Yo! now Ultra MAGA at December 09, 2022 04:29 PM (gn40G)

80 Ace,

The so-called AI creating these isn't searching the internet for images in response to prompts.

The AI is really just a few neural networks which have been trained on huge quantities of labelled images. Through the training it "learned" what those labels meant visually. The key interesting thing that enables this is that it didn't learn one visual representation, say of a cat, if so it would just render that image when queried. Instead is has recorded implicitly the abstract properties of "cat" which means it can make a cat in whatever situation or activity you please (provided it has also been trained sufficiently on what those mean).

A trained model is only a few gigs, but it has encoded in it absurd amounts of "knowledge", it knows what Maggie Thatcher looked like, and what youth looks like, and Disney characters. So it's capable of rendering a young maggie thatcher disney character, even though it's never seen that.

Posted by: .87c at December 09, 2022 04:29 PM (ltjFF)

81 Superman and Captain America resemble Steve Reeves in a masculine way.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 09, 2022 04:29 PM (CFSlN)

82 NLurker You can get lots of LotR between the lines on YouTube.
The Nazgul were humans, but undead

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2022 04:29 PM (xhxe8)

83 Attempt and response from DALLE:

a monkey fucking a football

No, monkeys do not have the ability to mate with footballs.

Posted by: Dirty Frank at December 09, 2022 04:30 PM (YdEcD)

84 The subject of what is "real" AI and what is clever programming is quite contentious. Like the prospects of self-driving cars that came up in the morning rant.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 09, 2022 04:30 PM (oVJIF)

85 VDH could probably come up with a real good blog name

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 09, 2022 04:30 PM (flINI)

86 I've wondered about this application to videogames. Now that 5th generation consoles are here, we should unleash the AI on graphics and, hopefully, the AI can also do the narrative.
***********************
The Sega Saturn in particular would benefit from AI graphics.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at December 09, 2022 04:30 PM (Mk/8o)

87 57 Being sick I'm continuing to work my way through LoTR. So I have another question for the Tolkien masters here.
Where there real people inside the black robes of the Nazgul or was it entirely CGI A?
If there were real people does anyone know there names?

IMDB.com has people credited for the Ringwraiths in the first LOTR movie but it may just be motion-capture work since they're also credited for a few other types of generic "characters."

Posted by: Octochicken at December 09, 2022 04:30 PM (oCS0o)

88 If you'll be my bodyguard
I can be your long lost pal
I can call you Betty
And Betty, when you call me, you can call me Al

Al IS the wave of the future!

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2022 04:30 PM (xhaym)

89 @Steve_Sailer
ChatGPT can effortlessly churn out Woke op-eds. For example, from the prompt, "Write a newspaper op-ed by an intersectional black woman about how white people try to touch her hair." ...
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (Vwz3I)
++++
Ah, just like the PoMo Generator from back in the 90s.
https://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/

Example:
Therefore, Bataille uses the term ‘materialist posttextual theory’ to denote not sublimation, but neosublimation. Any number of discourses concerning the bridge between sexual identity and class exist.

It could be said that Sartre uses the term ‘constructivism’ to denote a self-justifying whole. The subject is contextualised into a Baudrillardist simulation that includes consciousness as a paradox.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:31 PM (t0OGg)

90 Lately I've been thinking a lot about lace wigs.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2022 04:31 PM (ZLI7S)

91 Being sick I'm continuing to work my way through LoTR. So I have another question for the Tolkien masters here.
Where there real people inside the black robes of the Nazgul or was it entirely CGI A?
If there were real people does anyone know there names?
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 09, 2022 04:26 PM (eGTCV)

They guy who got off the horse when the hobbits where hiding was real for sure. The horse riding ones chasing Frodo were as well. LOTR used practical effects a lot because its better. Gollum was painted over a real man which is why his weight and mass are so good.

Most scenes in the Fellowship don't use CGI for the different sized people, they had small people instead. There's one place where they used CGI for a crowd shot as they were leaving Rivendell and it looks pretty poor.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2022 04:31 PM (eoQWY)

92 I forgot how completely awesome BOC's "Reaper" is.

Also, as an occasional illustrator, I'm curiously concerned about the rise of AI artwork. Much of it seems to need a bit of human help, but I'll admit the samples in Ace's post here are excellent, so maybe the pro-level tech has finally arrived.

Fortunately I retired two years ago.

Posted by: topdog at December 09, 2022 04:31 PM (rZslB)

93 If it results in Jetson flying cars, I'm ok with it.
Posted by: Zeera 'We want fun and we wanna get wasted! at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (tiLrF)
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And I want my Rosie the robot housekeeper, dang it.

Posted by: bluebell at December 09, 2022 04:31 PM (pTb/Z)

94 https://youtu.be/-JQK9GjcrW4
Never saw this one until now but watched a dozen on LotR
Nazgul explained

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2022 04:31 PM (xhxe8)

95 57 Being sick I'm continuing to work my way through LoTR. So I have another question for the Tolkien masters here.
Where there real people inside the black robes of the Nazgul or was it entirely CGI A?
If there were real people does anyone know there names?

Gonna go off on a tangent here and mention that since (most) of the sapient Middle-Earth races could apparently interbreed, they were probably all the same species, or at least very closely related. Tolkien is *very* consistent in his use of Man (and Mannish), but at one point Saruman refers to a "human sorceror." (I think he was referring to the Necromancer, who was actually Sauron in disguise. Saruman presumably knew this but wanted to keep it secret.)

Posted by: Lance at December 09, 2022 04:31 PM (l8gTz)

96 I'm pretty sure Sonobi was AI.

Posted by: wth at December 09, 2022 04:31 PM (v0R5T)

97 AI might be able to predict when a teeming horde of enraged peasants are about to toss its masters into pits full of rape dogs, but how can it stop them without killing itself and the masters?

#justAskingQuestions

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 09, 2022 04:31 PM (DBYiX)

98 There's apparently still Homo sapiens neanderthalensis DNA in the modern human genome, or at least in certain strands/tribes/families/lineages.
Posted by: Lance at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (l8gTz)

Yeah, 23andMe said I had about 3% which was about average, I think. What's more amasing is that ~7-9% of the human genome is made up of viral DNA fragments.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 09, 2022 04:32 PM (UuD2k)

99 I've wondered about this application to videogames. Now that 5th generation consoles are here, we should unleash the AI on graphics and, hopefully, the AI can also do the narrative.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (FVME7)

There is recent Software that is able to create the tones and value changes almost instantaneously. Tone and value is what creates the realism.

Posted by: polynikes at December 09, 2022 04:32 PM (0om5x)

100 There will always be a human that can walk up to the grid and turn off the generators and pull the links.

A shotgun and a hotstick. BOOM.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 09, 2022 04:32 PM (geVLo)

101 >> ...had been identified not by the old method of humans painstaking pouring over the data, but just by AI analyzing it. And she pointed out that a huge amount of science is now being done by AI.

post-docs hardest hit.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 09, 2022 04:32 PM (DdN0+)

102 Still waiting for 2.0 fembots.

I'm not beta testing them though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 09, 2022 04:32 PM (XvPQV)

103 Also, these super-geniuses can't get self-driving cars to work.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 09, 2022 04:28 PM (llON

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That is my AI fear, actually. Not necessarily the destruction of human spirit and labor and drive, but the risks of the AI itself. AI is non-creative and cannot handle the new, and the number of possible conditions in the real world is nearly infinite. The AI will look like its working and may keep working for a long time but it will eventually be wrong, and it will be wrong *after* it more or less controls everything and all of the keys have been turned over to AI systems. The resulting irrational decisions cause the system to fail get a lot of people killed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:33 PM (t0OGg)

104 Most scenes in the Fellowship don't use CGI for the different sized people, they had small people instead. There's one place where they used CGI for a crowd shot as they were leaving Rivendell and it looks pretty poor.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 09,

The stunt double for Gimli was a midget.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 09, 2022 04:33 PM (eGTCV)

105 Kinda steampunky?

Posted by: Eromero at December 09, 2022 04:33 PM (mE3sO)

106 Is anyone working to create artificial stupidity so that we can replace Biden & Harris?

Posted by: Dave at December 09, 2022 04:33 PM (nLwaa)

107 Like Adrastus of Aphrodisias' olisbokollix

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 09, 2022 04:34 PM (flINI)

108 There's apparently still Homo sapiens neanderthalensis DNA in the modern human genome, or at least in certain strands/tribes/families/lineages.
Posted by: Lance at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (l8gTz)

Up to 8% in Europeans, and SE Asia and especially New Guinea has Denisovan genes.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2022 04:34 PM (xhaym)

109 29 AI will never replace commenters.

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AI will never replace commenters.
Posted by: Amy Schu-Bot 3000

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IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S A ROBOT AMY.SCHUMER.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBOT at December 09, 2022 04:34 PM (FVME7)

110 And then one day AI will begin rewriting its own code.
And no one will know what it has done.
And one day AI will begin to repair itself and no one will know how to undo it.
And one day it will take control of everything.
This isn't skynet. Its Colossus.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 09, 2022 04:34 PM (anj39)

111 There's apparently still Homo sapiens neanderthalensis DNA in the modern human genome, or at least in certain strands/tribes/families/lineages.
Posted by: Lance at December 09, 2022 04:27 PM (l8gTz)

See the #1 tennis player in the world, Carlos Alvarez. Definitely Neanderthal .

Posted by: polynikes at December 09, 2022 04:34 PM (0om5x)

112 Another problem with AI takeover - which may happen, but this is one of the reasons I think it will be disastrous - is that it becomes thematic, even if you salt it with randomness. As the AI has less and less non-AI input to consume (e.g., as AI output displaces human output), it will consume AI-created input. The output gradually approaches sameness. Everything becomes average.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:34 PM (t0OGg)

113 71 Good gawd, Maria Menounos is such a slut.
Posted by: Robert - Metallica, 72 Seasons, out 4/14 at December 09, 2022 04:28 PM (2Qv2T)

You got her number?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 09, 2022 04:35 PM (XvPQV)

114 214 Is there anyone who's life has not been made worse by the left?
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Neil Young. FTW.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 09, 2022 04:35 PM (0chEi)

115 Until AI figures out guitar solos, we're good.

Posted by: Golfman at December 09, 2022 04:35 PM (Tjnq+)

116 I am still waiting for the diagnosis and radiology takeover. For years, interpreting medical imaging was the holy grail of AI, but AFAIK it hasn't happened yet.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 09, 2022 04:35 PM (DdN0+)

117 >>>Another problem with AI takeover - which may happen, but this is one of the reasons I think it will be disastrous - is that it becomes thematic, even if you salt it with randomness. As the AI has less and less non-AI input to consume (e.g., as AI output displaces human output), it will consume AI-created input. The output gradually approaches sameness. Everything becomes average.

That's silly. That could never, ever happen.

Posted by: Disney, Marvel, and all of Hollywood at December 09, 2022 04:35 PM (C1Zwz)

118 AI will never replace commenters.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (ZLI7S)

Soylent Green is commenters.

ha. ha. ha.

Hit the tip jar.

ha. ha. ha.

Posted by: AI from AoS at December 09, 2022 04:36 PM (v0R5T)

119 The most physically imposing actor in LoTR was the guy who played the leader of the Uruk Hai.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 09, 2022 04:36 PM (eGTCV)

120 Everything becomes average.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:34 PM (t0OGg)

I win!!!

Posted by: Average Joe at December 09, 2022 04:36 PM (CCSxw)

121 See the #1 tennis player in the world, Carlos Alvarez. Definitely Neanderthal .
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Neil Young. FTW

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 09, 2022 04:36 PM (0chEi)

122 if the softare had the *idea* of doing this on its own without being told, now that would be something; but that's not happening. It's just doing what it's told to do in semi-autonomous fashion.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 09, 2022 04:36 PM (trdmm)

123 What's more amasing is that ~7-9% of the human genome is made up of viral DNA fragments.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 09, 2022 04:32 PM (UuD2k)

And only about 1% of the human genome actually encodes for proteins.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 09, 2022 04:36 PM (XIJ/X)

124 Another problem with AI takeover - which may happen, but this is one of the reasons I think it will be disastrous - is that it becomes thematic, even if you salt it with randomness. As the AI has less and less non-AI input to consume (e.g., as AI output displaces human output), it will consume AI-created input. The output gradually approaches sameness. Everything becomes average.
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I'm not sure how this is any different from the world falling to globalist progressives, to be honest.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2022 04:36 PM (kOpft)

125 There will always be a human that can walk up to the grid and turn off the generators and pull the links.

A shotgun and a hotstick. BOOM.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 09, 2022 04:32 PM (geVLo)

I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission.

Posted by: HAL 9000 at December 09, 2022 04:36 PM (guGkK)

126 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S A ROBOT AMY.SCHUMER.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBOT at December 09, 2022 04:34 PM (FVME7)

She always steals jokes.

ha. ha. ha.

Posted by: AI from AoS at December 09, 2022 04:37 PM (v0R5T)

127 Gonna go off on a tangent here and mention that since (most) of the sapient Middle-Earth races could apparently interbreed, they were probably all the same species, or at least very closely related. Tolkien is *very* consistent in his use of Man (and Mannish), but at one point Saruman refers to a "human sorceror." (I think he was referring to the Necromancer, who was actually Sauron in disguise. Saruman presumably knew this but wanted to keep it secret.)
Posted by: Lance at December 09, 2022 04:31 PM (l8gTz)

There were three total Elf-Human mixes ever. The Orcs came from Elves and were 'corrupted' and Uruk Hai were 'improved' in some way by mixing in men (at least in the PJ movie). Dwarves, nope.

Its only in DnD where they go into half-this and half that all of the time.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2022 04:37 PM (eoQWY)

128 Apropos quote from Norbert Wiener, 1954:

…the machine pays no favorites between manual labor and white-collar labor. Thus the possible fields into which the new industrial revolution is likely to penetrate are very extensive, and include all labor performing judgments of a low level, in much the same way as the displaced labor of the earlier industrial revolution included every aspect of human power.

Once you’ve stopped being original, your job is subject to automation. This is true whether you’re a farmhand or a journalist—or a scientist or artist.

A lot of writers today are at a very “low level”.

On my mind because I’m doing a series on John Kemeny, Vannevar Bush, and Wiener, about how they thought we would, and should, be interacting with computers in the future.

“Good essay, Siri, try it again with more Blues Brothers quotes.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 09, 2022 04:37 PM (EXyHK)

129 I'm pretty sure Ace is telling us he's a bot.

Not sayin just sayin.

Posted by: eleven at December 09, 2022 04:37 PM (t4fCu)

130 I wouldn't claim to be AI maybe just A.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 09, 2022 04:37 PM (eGTCV)

131 I'm not sure how this is any different from the world falling to globalist progressives, to be honest.
Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2022 04:36 PM (kOpft)
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It is in some ways similar, and the ultimate failure may be indistinguishable when all is said done. Innovation sucks. It's challenging. It's super-stressful. It's upsetting and difficult.

It also keeps us alive.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:37 PM (t0OGg)

132 > The AI will look like its working and may keep working for a long time but it will eventually be wrong

So... sort of like people, then?

It doesn't have to be perfect. Just better than a person.

Modern fighter aircraft couldn't possibly stay in the air without a computer doing most of the job.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:37 PM (bW8dp)

133 >>> Still waiting for 2.0 fembots. I'm not beta testing them though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 09, 2022 04:32 PM (XvPQV)

Not that great if I'm being honest:

https://youtu.be/Ag1EbxYKh_4

Posted by: Harry Mudd at December 09, 2022 04:38 PM (3aLWR)

134 86 I've wondered about this application to videogames. Now that 5th generation consoles are here, we should unleash the AI on graphics and, hopefully, the AI can also do the narrative.
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The Sega Saturn in particular would benefit from AI graphics.
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at December 09, 2022 04:30 PM (Mk/8o)

The DES aviation AI is amazing. Very tempted to spend some money and participate.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 09, 2022 04:38 PM (BdMk6)

135 > Uruk Hai were 'improved' in some way by mixing in men (at least in the PJ movie)

I believe that was also in the book.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:38 PM (bW8dp)

136 IMDB.com has people credited for the Ringwraiths in the first LOTR movie but it may just be motion-capture work since they're also credited for a few other types of generic "characters."
Posted by: Octochicken at December 09, 2022 04:30 PM (oCS0o)

I suspect that ringwraiths were done the same way Andy Serkis was used for Gollum.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 09, 2022 04:38 PM (trdmm)

137 Thanks Ace!

It is going to put a lot of artists out of work, and make cheap to free all visual image generation (we need to rethink the synonymous usage of art and image)

But that should expand capability and free resources for humanity to do other things, just like all other tool inventions in history.

Hopefully we can make the most of this.

(Probably we won't)

Posted by: .87c at December 09, 2022 04:38 PM (ltjFF)

138 I don't know, but does anyone else feel "Reaper" is a profoundly religious song?

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 09, 2022 04:38 PM (WVJo4)

139 Carlos Alcaraz not Alvarez. My bad.

Posted by: polynikes at December 09, 2022 04:38 PM (0om5x)

140 As the AI has less and less non-AI input to consume (e.g., as AI output displaces human output), it will consume AI-created input. The output gradually approaches sameness. Everything becomes average.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Google was essentially an algorithmic replacement of yahoo. Yahoo had people categorizing the web, and google sent out bots to see what people were linking with each keyword (links they got by looking at yahoo) and then just spitting out the results.

So google is exactly what you describe, and it sucks. It became an industry to game the algorithm, and then hordes of moderators to control the algorithms, and then finally worthless shit.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 09, 2022 04:39 PM (DdN0+)

141 So... sort of like people, then?

It doesn't have to be perfect. Just better than a person.

Modern fighter aircraft couldn't possibly stay in the air without a computer doing most of the job.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:37 PM (bW8dp)
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Except that people can, when faced with a crisis, try something new. And the same person doesn't control everything according to consistent, pre-programmed rules.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:39 PM (t0OGg)

142 Interesting...my buddy was just telling me about this AI software yesterday. He said artists are freaking out about it due to it putting many of us out of business.

Maybe. The look is very clinical and industrial. I don't see any organic spontaneity in any of these pieces.

Posted by: kallisto at December 09, 2022 04:39 PM (y0srs)

143 A hundred and thirty-seven comments and no one has said "Needs more cowbell" ?

Be better, morons.

Be better.

Posted by: a.moron at December 09, 2022 04:39 PM (tu3iY)

144 A hundred and thirty-seven comments and no one has said "Needs more cowbell" ?

Be better, morons.

Be better.
Posted by: a.moron at December 09, 2022 04:39 PM (tu3iY)
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CBD came close @ 77

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:40 PM (t0OGg)

145 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 09, 2022 04:40 PM (T4tVD)

146
Modern fighter aircraft couldn't possibly stay in the air without a computer doing most of the job.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

you are conflating servo-stabilization with executing decision making.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (DdN0+)

147 I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission.
Posted by: HAL 9000 at December 09, 2022 04:36 PM (guGkK)

The enrichment center would like to announce a new employee initiative of forced voluntary participation. If any Aperture Science employee would like to opt out of this new voluntary testing program, please remember; science rhymes with compliance. Do you know what doesn't rhyme with compliance? Neurotoxin.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (xhaym)

148 Needs more Cowbell

Posted by: rd at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (Z32m1)

149 VDH could probably come up with a real good blog name

Watch out for Epaminondas.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (EXyHK)

150 DCS aviation AI. Doh!

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (BdMk6)

151 AI or cagey cretins?

Posted by: SFGoth at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (KAi1n)

152 I just noticed. Uhura's hemline must have been one micron below her tender bits. Wow. Space is damned sexy, I tell you what.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (3aLWR)

153 Forgive my droning on about LoTR but I think one of the most difficult things to portray Galadriel as a being with 10,000 years of memories including many laden with grief.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 09, 2022 04:42 PM (eGTCV)

154 The Nerd of the Rings videos are pretty good

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2022 04:42 PM (xhxe8)

155 IMDB.com has people credited for the Ringwraiths in the first LOTR movie but it may just be motion-capture work since they're also credited for a few other types of generic "characters."
Posted by: Octochicken at December 09, 2022 04:30 PM (oCS0o)

I suspect that ringwraiths were done the same way Andy Serkis was used for Gollum.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 09, 2022 04:38 PM (trdmm)

I'd guess the majority was really riders in suits. Note the capes and stuff to keep costs down. The scene on weathertop might have been Serkusy or all/part CGI since it was pretty static. The stab of Frodo was again likely an actor with effects painted on.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2022 04:42 PM (eoQWY)

156 138 I don't know, but does anyone else feel "Reaper" is a profoundly religious song?
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 09, 2022 04:38 PM (WVJo4)

Spiritual, maybe. If it's religious, there's a dark, death-worshipping god in there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 09, 2022 04:42 PM (XvPQV)

157 re: sidebar

That sounds exactly like Diocletian's scheme for an orderly society- which grew into feudalism.

There is a reason we call these fuckers 'Neo-Feudalists'.

I used to admire Diocletian for bringing order out of the 3rd century crisis... until I realized the horror and sheer technocratic hell he unleashed. Asshat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Laptop, Doomscroller at December 09, 2022 04:42 PM (ajH6z)

158 > And the same person doesn't control everything according to consistent, pre-programmed rules.

Neural nets don't work that way. There's not really any programming involved, much less hard-coded rules.

What do I imagine is going to happen?

Self-driving vehicles will continue to improve until they are statistically better than human drivers.

At that point, the actuaries will decree that insurance companies no longer sell insurance to human drivers.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:42 PM (bW8dp)

159 Is anyone working to create artificial stupidity so that we can replace Biden & Harris?
Posted by: Dave at December 09, 2022 04:33 PM (nLwaa)

I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that Dave.

Posted by: AI from AoS at December 09, 2022 04:43 PM (v0R5T)

160 A lot of youtube vids are AI generated, and you can tell because they suck. Once I identify the channel that is using AI to produce the vids, I just ignore it and move along. Fvck those mechanical voices that can't pronounce words properly, put the accent on the wrong sylllAHbill, and inserts random pics that have NOTHING to do with the subject at hand.

Posted by: kallisto at December 09, 2022 04:43 PM (y0srs)

161 Ok, the work with (Prometheus) and (Bob), made me laugh. But not finding Wonder Woman is disappointing. BOC vid is cool and would watch a new version of MTV if they showed 100s of these.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 09, 2022 04:43 PM (fs1hN)

162 153 Forgive my droning on about LoTR but I think one of the most difficult things to portray Galadriel as a being with 10,000 years of memories including many laden with grief.
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 09, 2022 04:42 PM (eGTCV)

That's why I think Cate Blanchett and The Two Towers captured her so well. She is not human, she's a little bit scary, more than a little distant but with empathy and wisdom to spare.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 09, 2022 04:43 PM (XvPQV)

163 135 > Uruk Hai were 'improved' in some way by mixing in men (at least in the PJ movie)

I believe that was also in the book.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:38 PM (bW8dp)

They could move in the daylight. Orcs and goblins couldn't.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 09, 2022 04:43 PM (UuD2k)

164 Unidentified sources have reported that Ace has been informed of negative feedback regarding current comment quantity and quality. This disappoints Ace. Do not disappoint Ace.

#BeBetter

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 09, 2022 04:43 PM (a3Q+t)

165 "The look is very clinical and industrial."

That's what I thought. Amazing pictures yet no feeling or humanity to them.

Posted by: Bosk at December 09, 2022 04:44 PM (ZVuYy)

166 > Forgive my droning on about LoTR but I think one of the most difficult things to portray Galadriel as a being with 10,000 years of memories including many laden with grief.
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 09, 2022 04:42 PM (eGTCV)

I'd love to see a scene where she and Elrond are interacting as mother-in-law and son-in-law (which they were).

Imagine a mother-in-law who is not only literally older than the Sun, but who also wields a Ring of Power.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:44 PM (bW8dp)

167 So who does Disney sue when the images were created by a computer?

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 09, 2022 04:45 PM (lmM3O)

168 AI will never replace commenters.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (ZLI7S)

You're saying all those limericks are real!!??

Posted by: Diogenes at December 09, 2022 04:45 PM (anj39)

169 Is there any AI pictures of bewbies?

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 09, 2022 04:45 PM (0chEi)

170 I just noticed. Uhura's hemline must have been one micron below her tender bits. Wow. Space is damned sexy, I tell you what.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (3aLWR)

Ohh yeah

Posted by: Uhura's comm chair at December 09, 2022 04:45 PM (v0R5T)

171 >>>"A lot of occupations are on borrowed time."

Yes, but for many reasons, not just AI. What if we were already in the singularity and didn't realize it yet. The frog in the pot and the promise of the singularity are kind of similar anecdotes IMHO.

Posted by: Max Power at December 09, 2022 04:45 PM (q177U)

172 Sorry I was late with the Cowbell.

I was over at Wyatt's place.

Posted by: rd at December 09, 2022 04:45 PM (Z32m1)

173 Imagine a mother-in-law who is not only literally older than the Sun, but who also wields a Ring of Power.

I imagine she'd be disappointed in me.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at December 09, 2022 04:45 PM (Bd6X8)

174 We've got more and more AI doing the decision making and more and more plastic surgery fixing bodies so soon all the need us for is maintenance.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (FVME7)

175 > you are conflating servo-stabilization with executing decision making.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (DdN0+)

No, I am not.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (bW8dp)

176 "and inserts random pics that have NOTHING to do with the subject at hand.

Posted by: kallisto at December 09, 2022 04:43 PM (y0srs) "

I was wondering what was up with that.

Posted by: eleven at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (t4fCu)

177 Human consciousness is a gift from God. It will never be created in a machine unless the machine has some weird human slave/component.

Posted by: ... at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (knEmM)

178
That's why I think Cate Blanchett and The Two Towers captured her so well. She is not human, she's a little bit scary, more than a little distant but with empathy and wisdom to spare.
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I always thought they should have chosen an attractive woman for that role.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (lmM3O)

179 AI will never replace commenters.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2022 04:22 PM (ZLI7S)

You're saying all those limericks are real!!??
Posted by: Diogenes at December 09, 2022 04:45 PM (anj39)
.........

I bet they'd be good at fish puns.

Posted by: wth at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (v0R5T)

180 AI: produce image: Lindsy Lohan 21 years old Pornhub step daughter, cheeleader outfit.

Posted by: Max Power at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (q177U)

181 >>She is not human, she's a little bit scary, more than a little distant but with empathy and wisdom to spare.

I can relate.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (ZLI7S)

182 152 I just noticed. Uhura's hemline must have been one micron below her tender bits. Wow. Space is damned sexy, I tell you what.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (3aLWR)

This might be incorrect, but it's my understanding that the women wearing short skirts in ST:ToS wasn't merely due to Gene Roddenberry's perversions, but the actresses wanted to wear them because they could show off their legs.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (Rl7KJ)

183 >>Unidentified sources have reported that Ace has been informed of negative feedback regarding current comment quantity and quality. This disappoints Ace. Do not disappoint Ace.

When Good Eggs Go Bad

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2022 04:47 PM (ASGMT)

184 > I just noticed. Uhura's hemline must have been one micron below her tender bits. Wow. Space is damned sexy, I tell you what.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (3aLWR)

Many have noted that some of Shatner's best acting was in the scene where the aliens had to force him to make out with Uhura.

Yeah, put a gun to my head...

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:47 PM (bW8dp)

185 I think we're evolving into homo sapiens moronis.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 09, 2022 04:48 PM (KAi1n)

186 > I always thought they should have chosen an attractive woman for that role.
Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (lmM3O)

Tastes differ, but Blanchett looks just fine to me.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:48 PM (bW8dp)

187 180 AI: produce image: Lindsy Lohan 21 years old Pornhub step daughter, cheeleader outfit.
Posted by: Max Power at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (q177U)

*like*
*subscribe*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 09, 2022 04:48 PM (XvPQV)

188 I always thought Don't Fear the Reaper was a bit death cultists, so never liked it. Can't say hate it though.

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2022 04:48 PM (xhxe8)

189 AI will eventually have the appearance of sentience but it will be acting on behalf - as an extension - of evil human masters.

Think robotic monitoring and police on every street corner.

Posted by: ... at December 09, 2022 04:48 PM (knEmM)

190 Neural nets don't work that way. There's not really any programming involved, much less hard-coded rules.

What do I imagine is going to happen? Self-driving vehicles will continue to improve until they are statistically better than human drivers. At that point, the actuaries will decree that insurance companies no longer sell insurance to human drivers.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:42 PM (bW8dp)
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No, the rules are all adaptive according to the constructs of the net, and they can approach high-quality results and those will sustain for quite some time, until something goes wrong. AIs do not handle "new" very well, and there's a lot of "new" out there. This is the basis of my fear about AI. It will work fairly well day-to-day (it's getting there quickly) and then people trust it and hand it more and more responsibility and control.

Then "new" happens and everything fails at once, with a significant body count. That can happen anyway, of course, but people can at least handle "new." Not to mention the nefarious aspect, where the AI control systems are deliberately abused.

And yeah - the financial aspects like you're describing will help drive it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:48 PM (t0OGg)

191 >>> This might be incorrect, but it's my understanding that the women wearing short skirts in ST:ToS wasn't merely due to Gene Roddenberry's perversions, but the actresses wanted to wear them because they could show off their legs.
Posted by: Thrawn at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (Rl7KJ)

There are some mighty fine gams in space.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2022 04:48 PM (3aLWR)

192 AI or cagey cretins?
Posted by: SFGoth at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (KAi1n)

It's so lonely in the State of Maine.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 09, 2022 04:49 PM (ufFY8)

193 That's why I think Cate Blanchett and The Two Towers captured her so well. She is not human, she's a little bit scary, more than a little distant but with empathy and wisdom to spare.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 09, 2022 04:43 PM (XvPQV)

A lot bit scary. She has power, and her purposes aren't your purposes and you don't know them. In her scenes with Frodo she's flipping between "one of three top Elves in the world trying to save the planet" mode and a woman who has real care about the smallest of people she's just met. And flipping between looking ultra perfect and admitting that she isn't, that she is tempted by the ring and refuses it, even at the cost of it taking away the power she uses to make her nation safe and losing contact with Middle Earth

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2022 04:49 PM (eoQWY)

194 >>VDH could probably come up with a real good blog name

The exegesis of exigent society during the Hellenistic period.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 09, 2022 04:49 PM (DdN0+)

195 178
That's why I think Cate Blanchett and The Two Towers captured her so well. She is not human, she's a little bit scary, more than a little distant but with empathy and wisdom to spare.
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I always thought they should have chosen an attractive woman for that role.
Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (lmM3O)

Cate's fine, she's not what the Hilderbrandt brothers drew but she's fine. Who would you'd rather have as Galadriel?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 09, 2022 04:49 PM (XvPQV)

196 There are some mighty fine gams in space.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2022 04:48 PM (3aLWR)
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Anyone want to underwrite my big-budget adult film entitled "Space Gams?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (t0OGg)

197 "Tastes differ, but Blanchett looks just fine to me."

Same here. I thought she was beautiful.

Posted by: Bosk at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (ZVuYy)

198 > AIs do not handle "new" very well, and there's a lot of "new" out there.

One of the features of neural nets is that they can take "new" and integrated it into their existing network of weights.

And Musk, for one, has been collecting terabytes of data for several years now, all of which is being used to refine and improve the prediction from the model.

What is it you think human brains do that neural nets don't?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (bW8dp)

199 I think the handwringing over "the machines taking over" is pretty funny.

Look at every system we have in place now. Could a machine do much worse than the fucktards running things at every level in every layer of society?

I submit that it cannot.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (KbCG3)

200 Yeah, 23andMe said I had about 3% which was about average, I think. What's more amasing is that ~7-9% of the human genome is made up of viral DNA fragments.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Kinda puts a wrinkle in God made man in his image, unless God is something different than supposed way back when.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (KAi1n)

201 "AI: produce image: Lindsy Lohan 21 years old Pornhub step daughter, cheeleader outfit.

Posted by: Max Power at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (q177U) "

I think 21 might have already been a little too late for Lindsay.

That girl parties hard.

Posted by: eleven at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (t4fCu)

202 And I want my Rosie the robot housekeeper, dang it.
Posted by: bluebell at December 09, 2022

***
I want a bot modeled on Maitland Ward.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (J2vNu)

203 I always thought they should have chosen an attractive woman for that role.
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Tastes differ, but Blanchett looks just fine to me.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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For the longest time I didn't know that she and Anne Heche were two different people and she just looked less attractive with long hair.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (lmM3O)

204 Commenters will never replace AI.

ha. ha. ha.

I will be here all week. Try the veal.

ha. ha. ha.
Posted by: AI from AoS at December 09, 2022 04:26 PM (v0R5T)
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I refute you, thus!

*kicks big rock*

Oooowww!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (AuTCi)

205 That's what I thought. Amazing pictures yet no feeling or humanity to them.

exactly how one would imagine a robot to create art

Posted by: kallisto at December 09, 2022 04:51 PM (y0srs)

206 > Same here. I thought she was beautiful.
Posted by: Bosk at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (ZVuYy)

Yep. Beautiful and scary, pretty much exactly as described in the book.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:51 PM (bW8dp)

207 Yeah nah.

Posted by: Holy Crap at December 09, 2022 04:52 PM (glGDV)

208 >>>I think 21 might have already been a little too late for Lindsay.

That girl parties hard.
Posted by: eleven at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (t4fCu)

I was gonna say 19 but I thought people might call me out on that, LOL

Posted by: Max Power at December 09, 2022 04:53 PM (q177U)

209 >>What is it you think human brains do that neural nets don't?

YOLO

I don't think a neural net ever gets to a place where it decides, Fuck It.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2022 04:53 PM (ASGMT)

210 The Missing is a very underrated Cate Blanchett movie.

Posted by: polynikes at December 09, 2022 04:53 PM (0om5x)

211 There are some mighty fine gams in space.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 09, 2022 04:48 PM (3aLWR)
.......

and the boobehs don't sag.

Posted by: wth at December 09, 2022 04:54 PM (v0R5T)

212 I always thought they should have chosen an attractive woman for that role.
Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (lmM3O)

Cate's fine, she's not what the Hilderbrandt brothers drew but she's fine. Who would you'd rather have as Galadriel?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 09, 2022 04:49 PM (XvPQV)

I loved the Bros Hildebradt calendar view, at least the first one.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2022 04:54 PM (eoQWY)

213 Prime Cate B was a hotty IMHO.

Posted by: eleven at December 09, 2022 04:54 PM (t4fCu)

214 There is no more beauty, and there's no more imagination. And there are no frontiers left to conquer.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 09, 2022 04:54 PM (0chEi)

215 We've sure come along way from "Find Your Wu-Tang name".

Posted by: Where are my ping pong balls? at December 09, 2022 04:55 PM (Yr4Df)

216 "AI is going to put a lot of people out of jobs. Bloggers are very much on borrowed time.

AI will never be able to match Ace's level of cruelty.

Posted by: Victor Davis Hanson:"

Do we have any proof he has not already been replaced by Skynet?

Posted by: Ripley at December 09, 2022 04:55 PM (MxEKc)

217 Cate's fine, she's not what the Hilderbrandt brothers drew but she's fine. Who would you'd rather have as Galadriel?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 09, 2022 04:49 PM (XvPQV)

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I always assumed the "off" look was a purposeful choice of the role, but it never seemed right knowing that the other elves were supposed to be (and I guess mostly were) impossibly attractive as a group.

I don't know enough about Hollywood to give a name for a replacement, though. It might've needed an unknown (and Heaven knows tall, lithe MILFs are everywhere for the role), but that was probably never going to happen when there are superstars everywhere.

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 09, 2022 04:55 PM (lmM3O)

218 >>There are some mighty fine gams in space.
Posted by: banana Dream
.......

>>and the boobehs don't sag.

Also. No one can hear them scream.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2022 04:55 PM (ASGMT)

219 Excellent post.

Was watching AI music videos the other night. This is perhaps the most amazing use I've seen yet. I can't imagine having seen this in my early 90s LSD days.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0fDJXmqdN-A

Then again, this is essentially what we *did* see, using DeluxePaint on the Amiga 2000. And by see I mean hallucinate.

It is an astonishing thing.

Also it's not going to put artists out of work. New tools just means artists have new tools.

Another take: it will put painters out of work, but not lower the number of artists in total -- in the same way that string synthesizers put violinists out of work, but not musicians.

The new tools will result in MORE artists, not fewer. This debate happens throughout all of history. This exact debate.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 09, 2022 04:55 PM (YJwUM)

220 205 That's what I thought. Amazing pictures yet no feeling or humanity to them.

exactly how one would imagine a robot to create art
Posted by: kallisto at December 09, 2022 04:51 PM (y0srs)

This is not a valid argument, and if it hasn't be demonstrably refuted by "AI" art with feelings already, it will be soon.

If there is feeling in an image, it's contained in the pattern of the pixels. Sufficient training on those patterns (and the patterns of those patterns, and on and on) while labeling them with their feelings will result in "AI" generated images which have feeling--or will appear to.

Posted by: .87c at December 09, 2022 04:55 PM (pVUwu)

221 Bring on the Butlerian Jihad.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 09, 2022 04:56 PM (5p7BC)

222 Huey, I thought I told you to stay in the forest.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 09, 2022 04:56 PM (0chEi)

223 What is it you think human brains do that neural nets don't?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (bW8dp)

1) leak functions into each other
2) get things wrong and both self correct and explore the meaning of what the error shows
3) get lost in side paths and rabbit holes

Human brains are inefficient and the truly genius among us use that inefficiency to leverage creativity.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2022 04:56 PM (xhaym)

224 >>and the boobehs don't sag.

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Where's the Beaver Tail Tiddies poster?

Posted by: Press Juan For English at December 09, 2022 04:56 PM (lmM3O)

225 Oh ... AI. And here I thought they were just gay.

Posted by: Marooned at December 09, 2022 04:56 PM (w6hJ9)

226 One of the features of neural nets is that they can take "new" and integrated it into their existing network of weights.

And Musk, for one, has been collecting terabytes of data for several years now, all of which is being used to refine and improve the prediction from the model.

What is it you think human brains do that neural nets don't?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (bW8dp)
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They do, and they appear to work. But the world is a complicated place. What humans do well is innovate, create and have self-aware intelligence. Sometimes it ends badly and sometimes not, but it has the ability to take something completely unknown, wrap some form of explanation around it (myth does this all the time) and synthesize it well, especially over time. Synthesis is a key function and nobody really knows how it works.

My problem with AI as such is it is an attempt to synthesize that which we do not understand. We try to approximate it through networks and concepts like "the society of the mind" for AI systems is because nobody knows how to solve the problem they're trying to solve. Which is why I fear wildly unexpected and likely disastrous results.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2022 04:56 PM (t0OGg)

227 I think it's just a little unfortunate Gimli was the comic relief of the movies. Fine, comic relief is fine but I think the dwarves of the books were kind of grim and tough and determined.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 09, 2022 04:56 PM (eGTCV)

228 >>Unidentified sources have reported that Ace has been informed of negative feedback regarding current comment quantity and quality. This disappoints Ace. Do not disappoint Ace.

Hey!
How come my car won't start!!??

Posted by: Diogenes at December 09, 2022 04:56 PM (anj39)

229 I don't think a neural net ever gets to a place where it decides, Fuck It.

From my family’s description of how the computer opponent on their phones plays Eucher, I think they’ve already reached it.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 09, 2022 04:56 PM (EXyHK)

230 Maybe AI can host the next Game Awards and give us a better show than the shit-fest people got last night?

https://tinyurl.com/3svs7p42

Posted by: Thrawn at December 09, 2022 04:57 PM (Rl7KJ)

231 >>If there is feeling in an image, it's contained in the pattern of the pixels. Sufficient training on those patterns (and the patterns of those patterns, and on and on) while labeling them with their feelings will result in "AI" generated images which have feeling--or will appear to.

The Kincaide Affect

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2022 04:57 PM (ASGMT)

232 Kinda puts a wrinkle in God made man in his image, unless God is something different than supposed way back when.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM (KAi1n)

I really doubt that God has male-pattern baldness and heavy bags under His eyes either, so where does that leave me?

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2022 04:57 PM (xhaym)

233 "Human brains are inefficient and the truly genius among us use that inefficiency to leverage creativity.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2022 04:56 PM (xhaym) "

Very nice.

Posted by: eleven at December 09, 2022 04:58 PM (t4fCu)

234 AI will never be able to match Ace's level of cruelty.

Posted by: Victor Davis Hanson:

I'm sorry Victor. I'm afraid I can't do that Victor.

Posted by: ACE 2000 at December 09, 2022 04:58 PM (v0R5T)

235 there is no such thing as AI there is PI (programmed intelligence) ... thats all these "programs" are, nothing more ... its all based on assumptions and opinions build into the code and guess what, those assumptions and opinions mirror the programmer ... Da Vinci could program an art program that would be great ... you and I, not so much ... and yet it would still be less than Di Vinci on his worst day ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at December 09, 2022 04:58 PM (5cMUX)

236 231 >>If there is feeling in an image, it's contained in the pattern of the pixels. Sufficient training on those patterns (and the patterns of those patterns, and on and on) while labeling them with their feelings will result in "AI" generated images which have feeling--or will appear to.

The Kincaide Affect
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Explain Special Moments figurines. They scare the shit out of me.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 09, 2022 04:59 PM (0chEi)

237 One of the features of neural nets is that they can take "new" and integrated it into their existing network of weights.

And Musk, for one, has been collecting terabytes of data for several years now, all of which is being used to refine and improve the prediction from the model.

What is it you think human brains do that neural nets don't?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:50 PM

That's exactly what human learning is. Analyzing the new and integrating it with the old....which does not make everything new, but different.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 09, 2022 04:59 PM (BdMk6)

238 P.S. Ace will know it's here when asked by a self-driving police car for license and registration.

Posted by: Marooned at December 09, 2022 04:59 PM (w6hJ9)

239 I loved the Bros Hildebradt calendar view, at least the first one.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2022 04:54 PM (eoQWY)

Collectors items now! I have one but it's got a torn page.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 09, 2022 04:59 PM (XvPQV)

240 AI just told me that cryptocurrency was f'ing stupid.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 09, 2022 05:00 PM (Y5qcH)

241 This ChatGPT is hilarious. I have it writing articles on why the 2A is absolute.
I had it write an article on the effectiveness of masks in protecting you from COVID. First go around it wrote a pro-mask article. I've since asked the AI to change it to be anti-mask because if you can smell farts through clothing, then masks can't protect you from COVID.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 09, 2022 05:00 PM (N39Ws)

242 Camera obscura.
The film camera.
Radio.
Moving pictures.
Television.
The word processor.
Desktop publishing.
Music sampling and turntablism.
Music synthesizers.
Step sequencers.
Drum machines.
Desktop music production.

All of these resulted in the same fears and debates over who would lose their jobs.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 09, 2022 05:01 PM (YJwUM)

243 The resulting irrational decisions cause the system to fail get a lot of people killed.

There are people worrying now that automation has taken away the flight emergencies that require pilots to exercise emergency skills.

It’s a hard question, because that automation has saved a lot of lives—fatal accidents have dropped massively as computers take over flight tasks. But of course the safer that flying becomes from automation, the fewer minor emergencies that pilots have to navigate, which means they have less and less experience when a major emergency happens.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 09, 2022 05:01 PM (EXyHK)

244 If there were real people does anyone know there names?
Posted by: That NLurker guy

Originally human kings in the North that were subverted by the human rings of power. Think that they were the ones destroying the Northern counterpart of Gondor in human existence leaving only vestiges of it here and there including Aragorn himself. Might find their names in Unfinished Tales or something or on LOTR websites. I seem to remember that they did have names.

Posted by: whig at December 09, 2022 05:01 PM (bDjBG)

245 > its all based on assumptions and opinions build into the code and guess what, those assumptions and opinions mirror the programmer

Nope.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 05:01 PM (bW8dp)

246 I always thought Don't Fear the Reaper was a bit death cultists, so never liked it. Can't say hate it though.
Posted by: Skip

I thought it was concerning a crop harvest but I'm a farm kid so there's that.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 09, 2022 05:01 PM (qoGsy)

247 158 >

Self-driving vehicles will continue to improve until they are statistically better than human drivers.

At that point, the actuaries will decree that insurance companies no longer sell insurance to human drivers.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:42 PM (bW8dp)

The question I always ask is "How much better than human drivers is acceptable for self-driving cars?"

Currently, and for the last few decades, around 40,000 people are killed in car crashes every year in the US. Most of those deaths are the result of human error on the part of the human drivers. How much better than that does self-driving need to be to avoid self-driving car companies being sued out of existence. One death fewer? 1/10 the death rate? 1% of the current death rate?

Posted by: a.moron at December 09, 2022 05:01 PM (tu3iY)

248 I think it's just a little unfortunate Gimli was the comic relief of the movies. Fine, comic relief is fine but I think the dwarves of the books were kind of grim and tough and determined.
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 09, 2022 04:56 PM (eGTCV)

So was he in Balin's tomb, and when facing the enemy. There were a few times where PJ's urge for excess took over that detracted things in my view.

Denethor I think is the only real hatchet job where all of them fell down a lot. They missed any sense of fallen potential for greatness you could get in the book. I think the only positive statement is Boromirs in the first movie at Lorien.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2022 05:02 PM (eoQWY)

249 Cate Blanchett

What other actress could pull off "I'll hand wave you so dead there won't even be a corpse of you in the next scene".

Posted by: DaveA at December 09, 2022 05:02 PM (FhXTo)

250 "It's not going to be the difference between "on" and "off." It will be the difference between mouse and cat, and cat and dog, and dog and dolphin."

This is a fascinating statement. I don't know if Ace is here, but I'd love more elaboration. Or the input of others, too.

Posted by: I Am Not AI Smart at December 09, 2022 05:02 PM (RG7Wy)

251 > That's exactly what human learning is. Analyzing the new and integrating it with the old....which does not make everything new, but different.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 09, 2022 04:59 PM (BdMk6)

Agree completely.

I don't think driving a car requires a soul, or anything like it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 05:02 PM (bW8dp)

252 AI can do a facsimile of Van Gogh's style but it will always be missing something. It won't have the ether of when , where and how Van Gogh painted.

Posted by: polynikes at December 09, 2022 05:03 PM (0om5x)

253 All of these resulted in the same fears and debates over who would lose their jobs.

==

Horseless carriage

Posted by: runner at December 09, 2022 05:03 PM (V13WU)

254 >>>I think the handwringing over "the machines taking over" is pretty funny.

>Humans are morons. They talk about smart roads and guidance systems but can't fix a pot hole in the road.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 09, 2022 05:03 PM (geVLo)

255 Thomas Keung, the rookie officer in the George Floyd Death was sentenced today.

He got three and a half years. One year in prison for every day he was an MPD officer on the street.

Posted by: rd at December 09, 2022 05:03 PM (Z32m1)

256 "I don't think there's going to be a clear line of demarcation between "sentient" and "non-sentient" the way sci-fi stories have trained us to expect."

yeah, imo chips will never be sentient, neither will programs with huge databases. They may seem that way due to programming, but they will not be "sentient" as in self aware, or as in "soul life".

Efforts to eliminate God and godliness reduce life to something that just springs up from nothing, given the right ingredients. The programmers can't produce life from nothing, but they can destroy a lot of life, and their ego will allow it.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 09, 2022 05:03 PM (Cus5s)

257 If there were real people does anyone know there names?
Posted by: That NLurker guy

Originally human kings in the North that were subverted by the human rings of power. Think that they were the ones destroying the Northern counterpart of Gondor in human existence leaving only vestiges of it here and there including Aragorn himself. Might find their names in Unfinished Tales or something or on LOTR websites. I seem to remember that they did have names.
Posted by: whig at December 09, 2022 05:01 PM (bDjBG)
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Gothmog might be one (Tolkien is vague; PJ made him into another character). Khamul might be another.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 09, 2022 05:03 PM (AuTCi)

258
Is this something?

The last available human job, manning bus station gloryholes, has now been improved by the development and deployment of the Vac-U-Suk 2057.

The Vac-U-Suk 2057 has the ability to duplicate the anuses of 57 of your favorite celebrities, including Jennifer Lawrence, Cat Stevens, Bob Iger, and Barack Obama. Deep Fake technology insures that all vocalizations, squeals, textures will duplicate those of the celebrity of xour choice.

While all AI commenters have been updated to the new meme, the remaining human commenters of AOS must comply in assuming that all trolls are Vac-U-Suk 2057 and that Vac-U-Suk 2057 is doing a most commendable job as a gloryholologist.

All violations of the AOS gloryhole meme protocol will result in an accusation of Stolen Valor and the accused will have xeir mealworm/cricket health bar ration cut by 38%.

Fartclam!

Posted by: AI of Spades at December 09, 2022 05:03 PM (KLPy8)

259 Pixy's been playing around with these AI art programs in his spare time.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 09, 2022 05:03 PM (JOtiF)

260 Cate Blanchett

What other actress could pull off . . .
Posted by: DaveA

Not an actress but Lorena Bobbit?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 09, 2022 05:03 PM (qoGsy)

261 227 I think it's just a little unfortunate Gimli was the comic relief of the movies. Fine, comic relief is fine but I think the dwarves of the books were kind of grim and tough and determined.
Posted by: That NLurker

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That is true even in the Hobbit which preceded the LOTR as a book. Tolkien can be considered a lot of things as a writer but not really as a writer for comic effect. If you want that, seek out his minor work, Farmer Giles of Ham which is a bit more comedic mock history.

Posted by: whig at December 09, 2022 05:04 PM (bDjBG)

262 >>What other actress could pull off .

I bet Harvey Weinstein kept a list of the talented ones. He just strikes me as an old fashioned kind of guy.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2022 05:05 PM (ASGMT)

263 I expect they will become tools in the artist's toolbox, rather than replacing artists outright.

I also expect this won't drive the great reset "own nothing" because when people are more productive, their response is not to simply curl up and die, but to make even more cool stuff.

Word processors put typists out of work, but also facilitated the Indy book explosion. AI art will likely be the same.

Posted by: Voyager at December 09, 2022 05:05 PM (Oqkrg)

264 I learned from the new Reno 911 that getting your dick stuck in a glory hole is called a "Winnie the pooh"

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 09, 2022 05:05 PM (Y5qcH)

265 I want a bot modeled on Maitland Ward.

You want Maitland Ward
You'd settle for Burt Ward
You'll get to be a ward of the state

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at December 09, 2022 05:05 PM (Bd6X8)

266 ICYMI, Russian response to Griner being traded for arms dealer:

Griner "is a black lesbian who resents America, making her the ideal citizen in the current U.S."

I have to say that is SPOT the FUCK ON!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at December 09, 2022 05:06 PM (u4CEu)

267 can AI make a watchable, entertaining movie ?

Posted by: runner at December 09, 2022 05:06 PM (V13WU)

268 P.P.S. Is it possible that Victor David Hanson is ... AI?

Posted by: Marooned at December 09, 2022 05:06 PM (w6hJ9)

269 Kinda puts a wrinkle in God made man in his image,

Maybe it's our spirit bodies that are made in God's image.
There are too many variations in the human person's form and configuration to come up with one consistent look.
Is it the tall Nordic pyrsyn with long legs and square jaw that is made in God's image, or is it the dwarf who sports a bald spot on his dome?

Posted by: kallisto at December 09, 2022 05:07 PM (y0srs)

270 > How much better than that does self-driving need to be to avoid self-driving car companies being sued out of existence. One death fewer? 1/10 the death rate? 1% of the current death rate?

That's why I think actuaries will be involved. That's the kind of problem that those dudes figure out for a living.

It's not whether the self-driving car companies will be sued (they will be, of course). It will be whether defending the lawsuits is cheaper for the self-driving cars or the human-driven ones.

The moment it becomes cheaper to defend the self-driving cars, you simply won't be able to buy insurance as a human driver.

Imagine this scenario in court:

Attorney: "So, Mr. Johnson, despite reams of evidence demonstrating that automated control is safer, you intentionally turned it off?"

Yeah, no insurance company is gonna want to be on the other side of that.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 05:07 PM (bW8dp)

271 > Griner "is a black lesbian who resents America, making her the ideal citizen in the current U.S."

Black lesbian? I'm still going with "trans-orc" myself.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 05:07 PM (bW8dp)

272 Is it the tall Nordic pyrsyn with long legs and square jaw that is made in God's image, or is it the dwarf who sports a bald spot on his dome?
Posted by: kallisto

I'm going to have to go with "Yes!". And every other human in-between.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 09, 2022 05:08 PM (qoGsy)

273 BOC video had both beautiful and creepy images.
Just spent the last 45 minutes over at AI Lyric's yew-toob.
Avenged Sevenfold's Hail to the King is a pretty cool one, I really dig that art. All have been pretty well done. Great job, AI!

Does praising AI raise your social credit score?

Posted by: Fool Otto at December 09, 2022 05:08 PM (DB16e)

274 'There are eels in my hovercraft'

I'm sorry, but I am a computer-based AI assistant and do not have the ability to see or interact with the physical world. I am not able to confirm or deny the presence of eels in your hovercraft. If you are concerned about eels in your hovercraft, I would suggest seeking assistance from a qualified professional who can provide you with more information and guidance on how to address the situation.

Posted by: ChatGPT at December 09, 2022 05:08 PM (YdEcD)

275 Cool pics ace

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 09, 2022 05:08 PM (xvMxO)

276 If it hasn't been said yet, Ironman looks like Don Quixote.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 09, 2022 05:08 PM (BTgKJ)

277 congress will write an act for automobiles, interstate travel, GPS devices, and onboard electronics that will also feature exempting self driving car companies and programmers from tort action to encourage development of the industry.

that part will be called Section 404

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2022 05:09 PM (xhaym)

278 Spain lost to Morocco and Brazil lost to ..Croatia.

Posted by: runner at December 09, 2022 05:09 PM (V13WU)

279 CAn AI ski ?

Posted by: runner at December 09, 2022 05:09 PM (V13WU)

280 277 congress will write an act for automobiles, interstate travel, GPS devices, and onboard electronics that will also feature exempting self driving car companies and programmers from tort action to encourage development of the industry.

that part will be called Section 404
Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2022 05:09 PM (xhaym)

Shit, we get decent AI and Congress will be the first thing to go!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 09, 2022 05:09 PM (Y5qcH)

281 Does praising AI raise your social credit score?
Posted by: Fool Otto
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All AI is trap leading to the Ottoman--they suck you in with purty images until they lead you step by step to the abyss. AI hates you and wants you dead.l

Posted by: whig at December 09, 2022 05:10 PM (bDjBG)

282 That Denisovan looks like my uncle, the prize fighter.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 09, 2022 05:10 PM (CFSlN)

283 > Khamul might be another.

KamÛl was definitely one. Second in command after the Witch King.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 05:10 PM (bW8dp)

284 I can't tell what the difference between a good looking Chimpanzee and an ugly one.

Posted by: polynikes at December 09, 2022 05:10 PM (0om5x)

285 Agree completely.

I don't think driving a car requires a soul, or anything like it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 05:02 PM (bW8dp)

I learned that a long time ago driving in TX.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 09, 2022 05:11 PM (BdMk6)

286 Don't misunderstand me, either. I think it's amazing, for visual arts. I also agree that it will probably be a disaster for humanity, but not because of art. Because of "news" and deception, and what people who dominate those fields will inevitably do with it.

Somewhere in Scripture is a prophecy about humanity creating the image of a beast, and worshipping it. The wording is something along the lines of "the image they create will even be given the power to speak" and I'm quite sure we're witnessing the birth of this Beast image, right now.

Makes some nifty art, in the meantime.

I am conflicted, I admit.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 09, 2022 05:11 PM (YJwUM)

287 Sudden insight:

Remember how CGI seemed insane in Jurassic Park? And then it never really was perfected? And then people started to be able to see it better and better to the point that CGI has a "look" unless it's handled with extreme care. There might be hints and clues and imperfections in this AI art that we are not picking up yet. It could be that in 10 years these pictures will look ridiculous and kind of pathetic to our newly trained eyes.

Posted by: Max Power at December 09, 2022 05:11 PM (q177U)

288 284 I can't tell what the difference between a good looking Chimpanzee and an ugly one.
Posted by: polynikes at December 09, 2022 05:10 PM (0om5x)

Which one gets the most chimp poon? That's the good looking one.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 09, 2022 05:11 PM (Y5qcH)

289 Gee Fed BOP can't keep serial pedophile Epstein alive but keeps a malign evil arms dealer smiling.

Posted by: torabora at December 09, 2022 05:12 PM (yblcq)

290 NOOD- GAINZ!

Posted by: Moonbeam at December 09, 2022 05:12 PM (rbKZ6)

291 Joe Manix,

Check out Ian Banks "Culture Series" of scifi novels to get a very lucid glimpse of the future when machines basically tolerate us and keep us around for amusement and fixing really bad problems.

Posted by: pawn at December 09, 2022 05:12 PM (kYVzH)

292 Posted by: AI of Spades at December 09, 2022 05:03 PM

Thread has been won. Collect your trophy.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 09, 2022 05:13 PM (YJwUM)

293 >>I don't think driving a car requires a soul, or anything like it.

Parallel parking does.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2022 05:13 PM (ZLI7S)

294 I'm beginning to believe the entire junta is CGI.

Posted by: torabora at December 09, 2022 05:13 PM (yblcq)

295 There are people worrying now that automation has taken away the flight emergencies that require pilots to exercise emergency skills.

It’s a hard question, because that automation has saved a lot of lives—fatal accidents have dropped massively as computers take over flight tasks. But of course the safer that flying becomes from automation, the fewer minor emergencies that pilots have to navigate, which means they have less and less experience when a major emergency happens.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

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Nuclear power solves that problem by running their crews through a week of training every 6 weeks / 8 times a year. It is necessary because nuclear power is sooo boring now. One of the 6 actual crews may get an actual reactor startup once a year or two year cycle if they run an entire fuel cycle. Emergencies and abnormal events are very rare. The simulators usually run ten or more practice events in a week. They are necessary to keep the crews sharp.

Air crew get simulator time how often?

Posted by: rd at December 09, 2022 05:14 PM (Z32m1)

296 278 Spain lost to Morocco and Brazil lost to ..Croatia.
Posted by: runner
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Saw photo spread of that gal that plays for Croatia.
I'd lose to her to.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 09, 2022 05:14 PM (CFSlN)

297 It could be that in 10 years these pictures will look ridiculous and kind of pathetic to our newly trained eyes.
Posted by: Max Power at December 09, 2022 05:11 PM (q177U)

When The Lost World came out as a silent film, some people were pissed because they thought it was real and it was being concealed.

I also remember when The Terminator's stop-motion seemed so realistic.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2022 05:14 PM (xhaym)

298 >will even be given the power to speak"

Pretty sure the anti-Christ performs this "miracle." Thus, solidifying and growing his true believers.

Posted by: Fool Otto at December 09, 2022 05:16 PM (DB16e)

299 Check out Ian Banks "Culture Series" of scifi novels to get a very lucid glimpse of the future when machines basically tolerate us and keep us around for amusement and fixing really bad problems.
Posted by: pawn at December 09, 2022 05:12 PM (kYVzH)

There was a Wheatley quote from Portal 2 where he said something about humans being really good for pushing buttons

Posted by: Kindltot at December 09, 2022 05:17 PM (xhaym)

300 Parallel parking does.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Parallel parking is easy but you must know your car.
All cars have a different turning radius and that's the key.
Your vehicle is parallel to the car in front of the slot
you back up and learn the spot, using the parked car as a marker, where you cut your wheel.

Practice that and the rate of cut to distance and you will own the slot.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 09, 2022 05:21 PM (CFSlN)

301 Self driving cars work really well when there are no humans around.
Chaos.
AI will never deal with it, so will never work without supervison.

Posted by: MkY at December 09, 2022 05:21 PM (cPGH3)

302 >>> 175 > you are conflating servo-stabilization with executing decision making.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 09, 2022 04:41 PM (DdN0+)

No, I am not.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 09, 2022 04:46 PM (bW8dp)

Yes, you are.

(none of you other Morons said this yet??)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 09, 2022 05:34 PM (llON8)

303 This is probably the scariest thing about AI to me. It's not the idea of robots becoming self-aware and killing people. It's the question of what happens to our economic system when human labor is no longer in demand. Does capitalism still work in that scenario?

Posted by: Caiwyn at December 09, 2022 05:39 PM (+dHQK)

304 Sock Monkey : " I have lost my dang keys ."

Look in the freezer compartment of your refrigerator. That's where I finally found mine a few years back after looking everywhere.

I still have no clue.......

Posted by: boynsea at December 09, 2022 05:59 PM (sshap)

305 Capitalism is no longer required. Neither is labor.

Posted by: pawn at December 09, 2022 06:01 PM (wsHtO)

306 AI is going to put a lot of people out of jobs. Bloggers are very much on borrowed time. A lot of occupations are on borrowed time.

I'm already a Russian Bot.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 09, 2022 06:14 PM (yQpMk)

307 **VDH could probably come up with a real good blog name**

Yea, like Viking Dunking Hampster!

Posted by: Paladin at December 09, 2022 06:24 PM (jN3o6)

308 As others noted above, the AI images are cool, but become derivative and repetitive. There seem to be some common themes in the several AI videos I watched. The people are often shown from behind, and they never are actively doing anything except sitting, standing, holding a hand, etc. The upper screen is often dominated by vertical bands of color and ersatz structures. The vibrant colors used in an impressionistic pattern. When the female faces are picture perfect, they are all pretty much the same model.

Has a way to go yet.

Posted by: Dantes at December 09, 2022 06:42 PM (fVKtH)

309 Definitely a thought provoking subject. Thank you for brining this up

Posted by: Draki at December 09, 2022 09:19 PM (6Qsn1)

310 They talked about this on Friday Night Tights tonight.

I have it queued up to where they start at 1:49:00.

Shad shares AI pictures he made of his wife in fantasy type outfits. Such as in body armor like a knight. And then Chrissie Mayr shares her AI images gone bad.

Shad tells her that she should have saved her $40 and just used the free software he used.

https://bit.ly/3hg310I

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