Matt Gaetz: Kevin McCarthy Is Not the Man to Lead the Congress at this Dangerous Moment.

Despite the bloviations of Mark Levin and Sean "Mehmet Oz is my hero" Hannity that We Constitutional Conservatives must once again Do Our Patriotic Duty and Bend Over and Take Down Our Pants for the Cause of Liberty and Sodomy, it's time for conservatives to say, "Go Fuck Yourselves."

The administration is aiding and abetting an invasion of the Southern border. Our rights are being stripped away. We are at war and the enemy is within.

In response to this existential threat, we're told that we need to entrust a congressman previously recognized as the "tech industry's best friend" as our leader.

That's boneheaded. Kevin McCarthy is not the right leader for the moment. Fortunately, enough Republicans recognize that to stop him from being the next Speaker of the House. Five House Republicans, including myself, have announced that we will not vote for McCarthy during the January 3rd speaker election. As many have privately also informed McCarthy of their plans to vote for someone else.

McCarthy's allies are fretting and are pushing out a false narrative that opposition to the Paul Ryan endorsed McCarthy will embolden Democrats to elect a squish Republican as Speaker. It turns out that spin is right, just not the way the McCarthy camp sold it.

Semafor is reporting that "Leader-designate Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y. waved off the suggestion Democrats would help elect an alternative for speaker, while Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C. all but volunteered Democrats' support to help get McCarthy over the threshold of votes needed for speaker."

This is the uniparty in action and should let you know that McCarthy is not a threat to the system destroying America. How could he be? His closest adviser has represented Pfizer, Amazon, and a firm dedicated to giving out a path to American citizenship to wealthy Chinese. His roommate counts Google among his clients.

This is the moment for a fight and McCarthy's instinct is flight. In the days after January 6, McCarthy asked in a call with Liz Cheney whether Twitter can take away Conservative Congressman Barry Moore's Twitter account because Rep. Moore pointed out that the shooting of Ashli Babbit doesn't fit the left's narrative of January 6.

McCarthy, likewise, said I was endangering the safety of Rep. Cheney by criticizing her.

The defense of McCarthy is that he isn't an ideologue. He just wants to get along, they say, and moves with the times.

Rep. Matt Rosendale, one of the five Republicans standing athwart McCarthy, put it well when he said, "We don't need a weatherman, we need a leader." A leader would stand up to the Biden administration's demands to send tens of billions of dollars to protect Ukraine's border instead of ours.

A leader wouldn't wait until thousands of military service members have been kicked out due to a mandate to end it. That's the problem with living with Frank Luntz and making all of your decisions based on polling data. You will always be late.

But enough about Rep. McCarthy, now is the time for conservatives to come to terms with the fact that the Speakership is up for grabs. Five Republicans are enough to stop Kevin McCarthy from becoming Speaker.

In order to avoid chaos on January 3rd, Republicans need to embrace reality.

More at the link. He plans to vote for Andy Biggs for Speaker.

As I've mentioned, the Freedom Caucus has said they could support McCarthy -- if he agreed to some reforms that would move the House away from the "Imperial Speakership" model, in which the Speaker gets to decide alone what matters can even be voted on, in favor of how the House used to operate, to wit, like an actual democratic body, in which individual members could propose legislation and amendments and it would be voted up or down.

I think they also want the power to demand a vote to remove the Speaker from his position -- if he acts like he no doubt will.

Now I don't know about you, but I have not heard any news about McCarthy agreeing to any reforms in how the House will do its business going forward.

Which means McCarthy is attempting to ride roughshod over the conservatives, once again, and demand their votes while addressing precisely zero of their concerns. He wants to keep all the power in the House in his corrupt, liberal Luntz-caressed hands.

He wants them to vote him into power as Speaker, and then he never wants to hear from them again. All deals going forward will be worked out in back rooms with his coterie of liberals and with his Good Democrat Friends and then brought to the floor for a vote as faits accoplis. (LOL, I pluralized that just to be a prick and annoy people.)

Kevin McCarthy is saying, in the words of Freddie Mercury, "I Want It All."*

Well you shouldn't have it, Luntz Roommate.



Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2


Andy Biggs and Matt Gaetz are 2 of a tiny handful of GOP House members who've denounced DOJs abusive J6 prosecution and holding of political prisoners. McCarthy has been silent.

Sounds like a longshot run but a fight worth having.

* Actually, in the words of Brian May, who wrote the song, music and lyrics. But that would have been a little confusing.

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Posted by: Rex B at December 08, 2022 01:04 PM (ie65O)

2 good. how about someone NOT from an uber-lib state as Speaker?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 08, 2022 01:05 PM (w0NJk)

3 Top 10!

Posted by: Crusader at December 08, 2022 01:05 PM (ibQSj)

4 I have just folded space from Ken'tuki. Many new dams in Ken'tuki.

Posted by: Guild Navigator Mitch McConnell at December 08, 2022 01:06 PM (yQpMk)

5 Ace, here's some content fodder: Colonel Puppy Fetish: https://is.gd/sM5aPB

Posted by: Bert G at December 08, 2022 01:07 PM (aCgRi)

6 They should be prepared to burn it all down politically, in an effort to get reforms, so that we, later, don't have to burn it all down, literally.

Posted by: Can you put an irrigation system in for the tree of liberty? Is that doable? at December 08, 2022 01:07 PM (xuYZH)

7 Mark Levin is really supporting McCarthy?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:07 PM (fWMRJ)

8 Better take of the gloves. Hit way below the belt.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 08, 2022 01:07 PM (Q4IgG)

9 1 St. Who?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:08 PM (fWMRJ)

10 >>>7 Mark Levin is really supporting McCarthy?

yup

Posted by: ace at December 08, 2022 01:08 PM (C1Zwz)

11 it's time for conservatives to say, "Go Fuck Yourselves."

OK, finally something I am good at.

Go Fuck Yourselves! Twice. Fuckers.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 08, 2022 01:08 PM (c1mVn)

12 Come for the latest Uniparty betrayal, stay for the arcane musical trivia.

Posted by: Dr. T at December 08, 2022 01:08 PM (bhRsz)

13 McCarthy will win it. They always do. If he doesn't by some miracle, they'll totally destroy his replacement. It's irredeemable at this point.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 08, 2022 01:08 PM (H8QX8)

14 I heard the Speaker doesn't have to be a member? Bring back Ryan!...or Boehner!

Posted by: BignJames at December 08, 2022 01:09 PM (AwYPR)

15 >> Ace, here's some content fodder: Colonel Puppy Fetish: https://is.gd/sM5aPB

thanks, I have that in the queue for later.

Posted by: ace at December 08, 2022 01:09 PM (C1Zwz)

16 I'm not hopeful that we'll get reform but I definately want it to happen. It's just amazing to me how it seems impossible to topple the Uniparty.

Posted by: Iris at December 08, 2022 01:09 PM (NaH5I)

17 Doesn't much matter what Matt, you or anyone else wants.

I firmly believe that any 'vote' is now just an Oz smokeshow and the outcome has already been decided by whomever is pulling the strings.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 08, 2022 01:09 PM (6VKyY)

18 Mark Levin huffs his own gas.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 08, 2022 01:09 PM (Q4IgG)

19 Mark Levin has really lost me lately.
He supports McCarthy AND the war in Ukraine.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2022 01:09 PM (jTmQV)

20 Mark Levin is really supporting McCarthy?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:07 PM (fWMRJ)


Who's next, Hugh Hewitt???

Posted by: Dr. T at December 08, 2022 01:10 PM (bhRsz)

21 Semafor is reporting that "Leader-designate Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y. waved off the suggestion Democrats would help elect an alternative for speaker, while Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C. all but volunteered Democrats' support to help get McCarthy over the threshold of votes needed for speaker."
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So they *will* help elect a squish at speaker. Fine. Do it. It's time for the Party to fracture.

Worst outcome: Status quo because the Republicans all vote for McCarthy, no Dems needed. This is likely.
Better outcome: status quo because the Democrats install McCarthy.
Even Better outcome: McCarthy folds and the Republicans install someone better as speaker
Best outcome: Total gridlock, no speaker, the Democrats band together with some hyper-cucks to install a Democrat as speaker despite with Republican majority.

That last outcome - which is as least as big a longshot as getting a non-shitheel Speaker - would destroy the GOP, which is why I hope it happens.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2022 01:10 PM (t0OGg)

22 Mark Levin is really supporting McCarthy?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:07 PM (fWMRJ)


Who's next, Hugh Hewitt???
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Ok - that's a good one.

Posted by: Can you put an irrigation system in for the tree of liberty? Is that doable? at December 08, 2022 01:10 PM (xuYZH)

23 Mark Levin is really supporting McCarthy?


Golf ball through a garden hose.

Posted by: Mark Levin at December 08, 2022 01:10 PM (ESjRY)

24 >>>19 Mark Levin has really lost me lately.
He supports McCarthy AND the war in Ukraine.

maybe the two are related. I know Mitch McConnell is selling out America to make sure Ukraine gets funded. Can't have conservatives reducing a Ukrainian funding package!

Posted by: ace at December 08, 2022 01:11 PM (C1Zwz)

25 you want John McClane

you'll settle for Kevin

you'll get Luntz

Posted by: REDACTED at December 08, 2022 01:11 PM (us2H3)

26 Saw McCarthy on TV last weekend, he was oozing sleazeball.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 01:11 PM (v0R5T)

27 Newt is supporting McCarthy also. He's gaining a lot of support from places I wouldn't. Or ally believe he would.

BTW, Gaetz is a bit of a carnival barker.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 08, 2022 01:11 PM (tDEa7)

28 7 Mark Levin is really supporting McCarthy?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:07 PM (fWMRJ

Isn’t Trump as well?

Posted by: tofer732 at December 08, 2022 01:11 PM (fatpD)

29 He supports McCarthy AND the war in Ukraine.

Say what you want about Levin, but when he gets bought he stays bought

Posted by: Kevin McCarthy-Luntz at December 08, 2022 01:11 PM (ESjRY)

30 4 I have just folded space from Ken'tuki. Many new dams in Ken'tuki.
Posted by: Guild Navigator Mitch McConnell at December 08, 2022 01:06 PM (yQpMk)

Ew. That's Ixy.

Posted by: Spacing Guild Navigator #9 at December 08, 2022 01:11 PM (oTpPW)

31 Wish someone would audit where all this Ukraine money is going. We already know the weapons have ended up in Africa.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 08, 2022 01:12 PM (6VKyY)

32 I've decided that next week I'm going to town and change my registration from Republican. Seriously. I'm going to choose Independent, but only because Fuck All Of You is not an available option.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 08, 2022 01:12 PM (opypH)

33 I'm not sure how I feel about this. I'm no fan of McCarthy, but who else on the GOP side really has the votes to win? I'm worried that if McCarthy and the FC don't come to some kind of arrangement, then the GOP vote will be fractured and there's a good chance the Dums will align with the usual GOP sell-outs and elect a "moderate" who will really be a Dumocrap.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2022 01:12 PM (iFTx/)

34 Well, good. I won’t have to worry about listening to Mark Levin’s nasal diatribes ever again.

His was the most annoying voice on radio. I only listened to him for his content. Oh well.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:12 PM (fWMRJ)

35 I am willing to be....neutral on McCarthy. But only if he nuts up and fights the Democrats.

ONLY then.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 08, 2022 01:12 PM (pyVNc)

36 Mark Levin has really lost me lately.
He supports McCarthy AND the war in Ukraine.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2022 01:09 PM (jTmQV)
........

Me? I stand with the Peruvians.
*pile of cocaine emoji*

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 01:13 PM (v0R5T)

37 Wish someone would audit where all this Ukraine money is going. We already know the weapons have ended up in Africa.

Oh I don't know...

Posted by: Little Z snorting coke and banging hookers on his new yacht at December 08, 2022 01:13 PM (ESjRY)

38 I completely don't understand it.
Even Sen. Kennedy from Louisiana votes money for Ukraine. And claims it protects us in the USA.
One thing I know, Ukraine will be an uninhabitable wasteland by the time this is all over and we will have thrown $100B+ down a volcano.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2022 01:13 PM (jTmQV)

39 That's why Hannity calls him "The Great One".
Every night. Over and over.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 01:14 PM (v0R5T)

40
Mark Levin is really supporting McCarthy?

yup
Posted by: ace


He called those who didn't boneheads.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2022 01:14 PM (63Dwl)

41 I have just folded space from Ken'tuki. Many new dams in Ken'tuki.
Posted by: Guild Navigator Mitch McConnell at December 08, 2022 01:06 PM (yQpMk)

Ew. That's Ixy.
Posted by: Spacing Guild Navigator #9
===
Would you care for some refreshment, I have a delightfully spiced bourbon.

Posted by: Shaddam Corrino IV eighty-first and last Padishah Emperor of the Corrino Empire, and thus the Known at December 08, 2022 01:14 PM (FwmF4)

42 I heard the Speaker doesn't have to be a member? Bring back Ryan!...or Boehner!
Posted by: BignJames

What about Tall Brittney? She ain't doing anything right now. Another couple pluses she is a dyke and she could organize a House BB league which just might keep those mf'ers busy enough practicing 3 pointers so they aren't screwing us over all the time.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 08, 2022 01:15 PM (c1mVn)

43 The Freedom Caucus whose chairman voted for the anti-Christian, lawfare marriage bill. I would depend on them.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at December 08, 2022 01:15 PM (C35Jn)

44 Schumer: We Want Omnibus Bill for Whole Year ‘to Avoid the Problem’ of House GOP ‘Having Any Control’

//

well, yeah.

why don't we bind every future congress ever with a hastily written multi-trillion dollar inflationary boondoogle.

let's just name it something good tho, because that's what matters

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:15 PM (MLrvz)

45 Embrace the suck GOPers.

McDanial at RNC.

MConnell in the Senate.

McCarthy in the house.

It is to Mclaugh. Joke party, joke leaders, joke voters.

Posted by: DOYLE at December 08, 2022 01:15 PM (Z8Yh2)

46 >>> One thing I know, Ukraine will be an uninhabitable wasteland by the time this is all over and we will have thrown $100B+ down a volcano.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2022 01:13 PM (jTmQV)


Not all of it goes down the 🌋. A good amount is being spread around. Which is why there's so much support.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 08, 2022 01:15 PM (2oHWb)

47 Wish someone would audit where all this Ukraine money is going. We already know the weapons have ended up in Africa.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 08, 2022 01:12 PM (6VKyY)

Shut up! Zelensky is Time Humanoid Of the Year.

Are YOU the Time Humanoid Of the Year?

No. So don't question where the money went. Those pianos won't penis play themselves.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2022 01:16 PM (YV6PJ)

48 if McCarthy and the FC don't come to some kind of arrangement, then the GOP vote will be fractured and there's a good chance the Dums will align with the usual GOP sell-outs and elect a "moderate" who will really be a Dumocrap.

***

Funny how the choice is always between a shit sandwich and a shit sandwich with urine.

A smarter person would say the game is rigged.

On the other hand the GOP has really freed up my schedule for November 2024 going forward. Not giving a shit about whether or not I vote any more is very relaxing.



Posted by: Azathoth at December 08, 2022 01:16 PM (wb1YC)

49 Well, my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory is still viable.

All the money and weapons being sent to Ukraine from all these countries is actually funding the WEF group for the coming stage two or three of this new world order shit (great reset).

In other words, it's about at the lively shooting phase. So all the puppet masters are pulling cash and weapons into the groups hands for the coming push to whatever stage this is.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 08, 2022 01:16 PM (6VKyY)

50 Willowed:

"Saudi crown prince, UAE president led mediation in US basketball star Griner, Russia’s Viktor Bout prisoner swap"

https://tinyurl.com/2hpnmfnf
Posted by: Thrawn at December 08, 2022 12:55 PM (Rl7KJ)


So the Saudis can now get this guy to give them weapons to use against Iran, while Biden continues to try and give Iran pallets of cash. Brilliant.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2022 01:16 PM (ZGrMX)

51 That's not true about Levin. He was a Cruz guy and did not like Trump at all in 2016, but when Cruz lost in the primaries he backed Trump all the way. I think he still is a Trump guy.

Posted by: Jaimo at December 08, 2022 01:16 PM (DBrN4)

52 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2022 01:16 PM (T4tVD)

53 Imma starting to get the idea that GOPe likes taking it in the ass.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:16 PM (ifUkZ)

54 Well, a “dam” is the term for the mother of a horse, so there are indeed a lot of those in Kentucky.

A lot of horse’s asses, as well.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:16 PM (fWMRJ)

55 ...Best outcome: Total gridlock, no speaker, the Democrats band together with some hyper-cucks to install a Democrat as speaker despite with Republican majority.

That last outcome - which is as least as big a longshot as getting a non-shitheel Speaker - would destroy the GOP, which is why I hope it happens.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2022 01:10 PM (t0OGg)



This is what I want. Seriously. I've been betrayed by the Republican Party almost my entire life. Say what you will about the demonic democrats but they do get their shit done. Our side doesn't and never has. Time for them to end.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 08, 2022 01:16 PM (opypH)

56 It's either Mitch and Jeb's party or it's ours.

The GOP has betrayed the base so much since 1997 or so that there's really not much of an America left to worry about.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:16 PM (MLrvz)

57 One thing I know, Ukraine will be an uninhabitable wasteland by the time this is all over and we will have thrown $100B+ down a volcano.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2022 01:13 PM (jTmQV)
........

Then we'll have to pay Putin to rebuild it.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 01:17 PM (v0R5T)

58 He called those who didn't boneheads.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2022 01:14 PM (63Dwl)

Levin makes money off of the status quo.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at December 08, 2022 01:17 PM (C35Jn)

59 I think we can have honest disagreement on Ukraine. Personally I don't agree with the war. Ukraine is a corrupt autocracy and our first priority is the US. That and the fact I'm tired of fighting everyone else's wars lead me to be against it. But there is an argument to be made that we are degrading Russia as an adversary and diverting them with a proxy battlefield.

My argument against the latter is that should be a negotiation. Make no mistake, the Russian government are scumbags and not our friends. But I think there is a lot of common ground Democrats have trampled with their antics. If we could restore that we could focus on the real enemy, China. But that would hurt Democrats and the establishments best friend and benefactor.

So I partially agree with Levin, and his reasoning is sound. But in the end I see it a different way.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 08, 2022 01:17 PM (tDEa7)

60 Newt? The Flute? Toot Toot!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 08, 2022 01:17 PM (ZNbXG)

61 Wish someone would audit where all this Ukraine money is going. We already know the weapons have ended up in Africa.
--
WWIII needs to be armed. And you can't arm you enemy directly. You need a cut out. So you gin up a war with a bad guy, between bad guy and third party. Then you "support" the third party. So you send them a trillion, over the course of the "war". They spend that money in the arms market, making you domestic makers happy and a bunch of allies happy. THey also kick back to you. Making you happy. They then sell off arms to other parties and those weapons wind up in the hand of Opfor - on the plains of Armaggedon. Have fun storming that!!!

Posted by: Shaddam Corrino IV eighty-first and last Padishah Emperor of the Corrino Empire, and thus the Known at December 08, 2022 01:18 PM (xuYZH)

62 55 ...Best outcome: Total gridlock, no speaker, the Democrats band together with some hyper-cucks to install a Democrat as speaker despite with Republican majority.

///

well, yeah. that was the outcome even if we got a red wave (you know, in a year where GOP candidate quality didn't doom the GOP while, you know, the democrats are immune to quality concerns blah blah blach).

Even if we got my dream results, House +50 and Senate +6, we'd still be facing lockdowns and budget battles. which we'd lose with the old leadership.

now...with a House +3...yeah, NGMI

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:18 PM (MLrvz)

63 There is no cocaine emoji.

But there is a bear emoji.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 08, 2022 01:18 PM (44ww/)

64 48 - I've never had to care if I vote or not. I live in Connecticut. I vote all the time but it doesn't really matter. Maybe I'll have to rethink 2024. We'll see who the slime bags cough up to run and if it's worth it to get up early and vote.

Posted by: Jaimo at December 08, 2022 01:18 PM (DBrN4)

65 I agree with the Tree of Liberty (not Sodomy) upthread: Burn it down metaphorically so we don't have to do it literally.

Posted by: pookysgirl would like a nice bonfire to warm her toes at December 08, 2022 01:18 PM (XKZwp)

66 I heard the Speaker doesn't have to be a member? Bring back Ryan!...or Boehner!

Posted by: BignJames

What about Tall Brittney? She ain't doing anything right now. Another couple pluses she is a dyke and she could organize a House BB league which just might keep those mf'ers busy enough practicing 3 pointers so they aren't screwing us over all the time.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 08, 2022 01:15 PM (c1mVn)

sure!

Posted by: BignJames at December 08, 2022 01:18 PM (AwYPR)

67 This is what I want. Seriously. I've been betrayed by the Republican Party almost my entire life

The last time the R party fought the Ds on domestic policy was Welfare Reform in the mid 90s

Which means something like 20-30% of the US population has never seen an opposition party to the Democrats.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2022 01:19 PM (ESjRY)

68 Levin has always been a loudmouth but he’s often thoughtful. Not sure what he’s been smoking to just go nuts of this McCarthy Vs Biggs thing….. how could any conservative not be at least a little suspicious of McCarthy??

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 08, 2022 01:19 PM (xT8gx)

69 Mark Levin has really lost me lately. He supports McCarthy AND the war in Ukraine. Posted by: gourmand du jour

I will start getting concerned when he starts talking up Kanye.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 08, 2022 01:19 PM (c1mVn)

70 49 Well, my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory is still viable.

All the money and weapons being sent to Ukraine from all these countries is actually funding the WEF group for the coming stage two or three of this new world order shit (great reset).

In other words, it's about at the lively shooting phase. So all the puppet masters are pulling cash and weapons into the groups hands for the coming push to whatever stage this is.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 08, 2022 01:16 PM (6VKyY)

Do I really have enough ammo?
No, no I don't.
*Heads to SGAMMO*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 08, 2022 01:19 PM (pyVNc)

71 As a wise man once said, "I'm sorry that's happening to you. Best of luck."

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 08, 2022 01:19 PM (Vwz3I)

72
"Saudi crown prince, UAE president led mediation in US basketball star Griner, Russia’s Viktor Bout prisoner swap"

https://tinyurl.com/2hpnmfnf
Posted by: Thrawn at December 08, 2022 12:55 PM (Rl7KJ)

So the Saudis can now get this guy to give them weapons to use against Iran, while Biden continues to try and give Iran pallets of cash. Brilliant.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2022 01:16 PM (ZGrMX)


==================

Iran is now Russia's High tech Arms dealer. Iran is supplying Russia with their Shithead 136 drones. I can just imagine what happens if Russia gets Iranian Ballistic missiles too.

Posted by: rd at December 08, 2022 01:19 PM (Z32m1)

73 is all over and we will have thrown $100B+ down a volcano.
==
Check me if I'm wrong Sandy, but we are well past 100B marker. We'll be looking at trillion next year easy.

Posted by: Shaddam Corrino IV eighty-first and last Padishah Emperor of the Corrino Empire, and thus the Known at December 08, 2022 01:20 PM (FRmcW)

74 Biggs is a good guy and his heart is on the right place. But he's not leadership material. Sorry.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 08, 2022 01:20 PM (tDEa7)

75 56 It's either Mitch and Jeb's party or it's ours.


trolling the AOS gets me so stiff

Posted by: Turtle at December 08, 2022 01:20 PM (us2H3)

76 Are Republicans from NY and CA a product of their environment? Are there any GOP reps from those States that are members of the Freedom Caucus?

Actually there are more GOP Reps from CA ( 11) and NY ( than I thought.

Posted by: polynikes at December 08, 2022 01:20 PM (0om5x)

77 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 08, 2022 01:20 PM (44ww/)

78 33 I'm not sure how I feel about this. I'm no fan of McCarthy, but who else on the GOP side really has the votes to win? I'm worried that if McCarthy and the FC don't come to some kind of arrangement, then the GOP vote will be fractured and there's a good chance the Dums will align with the usual GOP sell-outs and elect a "moderate" who will really be a Dumocrap.
Posted by: Elric Blade
------------------------------
Last time there was a leadership issue was when Uncle Joe Cannon was neutered by a coalition of Progressive Republicans and Democrats.

What is interesting about the House is that it has no continuing rules and has to vote on the rules for the following session at the beginning of each Congress. No rules, and you basically have a free for all in the House, no leadership means that committee assignments are up in the air, and so on.

Posted by: whig at December 08, 2022 01:20 PM (bDjBG)

79 How much of our money sent to Ukraine ends up back in Manhattan?

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:20 PM (ifUkZ)

80 AlextheChick for Speaker of the House!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2022 01:20 PM (/7Sa4)

81 Ryan as speaker makes total sense. The humiliation of voters is the kick.

Long live the GOP.

Posted by: DOYLE at December 08, 2022 01:21 PM (Z8Yh2)

82 58 He called those who didn't boneheads.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2022 01:14 PM (63Dwl)

Levin makes money off of the status quo.
Posted by: Crom Laughs at December 08, 2022 01:17 PM (C35Jn)

Like the NRA, GOPe make money off the slow grinding defeat of their constituents. They know this and embrace it.

Since the mouthpieces are assuring us that RUS is suffering a slow grinding defeat and running out of money and missiles and men and shells, I am assuming the opposite is the case.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:21 PM (1ais2)

83 Trump "supports" Kevin presumably for the same reason he's ended up backing other people - the menu is short, terrible, but he has to order something. Only he and Trump know, but it's reasonable to assume that Trump realized re-engineering the House GOP leadership was something he couldn't do and wasn't going to happen. So maybe he got some (worthless?) commitments from Kevin, who has gone to Mar a Lago several times to consult.

Again the problem isn't McCarthy, or even almost the entirety of the GOP caucus that is happy to back him and like him do nothing of consequence. It's the electorate that has created this disaster and is happy to keep sending back these people. Yes there are ample grounds for disengagement, such as the behavior of the GOP during Trump (and now) and the effective negation of a true voter revolt (2010).

But these useless (actually, disastrous) nothings in office didn't get there without being voted in. Most of them, over and over and over.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2022 01:21 PM (OTzUX)

84 3 I'm not sure how I feel about this. I'm no fan of McCarthy, but who else on the GOP side really has the votes to win? I'm worried that if McCarthy and the FC don't come to some kind of arrangement, then the GOP vote will be fractured and there's a good chance the Dums will align with the usual GOP sell-outs and elect a "moderate" who will really be a Dumocrap.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2022 01:12 PM (iFTx/)

as noted above, i'm starting to support this outcome.

how else to destroy the GOP to to show how much of a shitshow they really are by NOT being able to elect a speaker when the control the house...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 08, 2022 01:21 PM (nXhwP)

85 We can turn around this awful mess if conservative voters stop listening to the eGOP and clean house.
The eGOP is queued up to replace the "immoderate left" and give us more of the uniparty.
The trap is set. Beware the eGOP pushing out a smartly groomed candidate who knows what to say to our faces, and how to act behind our backs.

Posted by: Coki at December 08, 2022 01:21 PM (Bg/TD)

86 Is this Biggs guy a worthy opponent? Is he really a Maga guy or just some guy who thinks he's all that?

Posted by: Jaimo at December 08, 2022 01:21 PM (DBrN4)

87 The humiliation of voters is the kick.

//

trump was a 4 year abberation, the GOP wants Jeb!

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:21 PM (MLrvz)

88 80 AlextheChick for Speaker of the House!
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2022 01:20 PM (/7Sa4)

*endorsed*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 08, 2022 01:21 PM (pyVNc)

89 Coki, that groomed candidate is DeSantis. Just sayin.

Posted by: Jaimo at December 08, 2022 01:22 PM (DBrN4)

90 "Look guys, the only way we're going to get this country out of this mess is by keeping the same people that got us into this mess in charge and in power so they can continue to promise you they'll get us out of this mess."

- GOP LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of Gov Inc

Posted by: Azathoth at December 08, 2022 01:22 PM (wb1YC)

91 What happens if 5 Republicans just decide not to vote for McCarthy?

Sort of like the principled stand the GA Lt, Governor made against Herschel Walker?

Posted by: rd at December 08, 2022 01:22 PM (Z32m1)

92 79 How much of our money sent to Ukraine ends up back in Manhattan?
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:20 PM (ifUkZ)

A lot. But less than in the City of London. And from thence parts unknown

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:22 PM (1ais2)

93 Mark Levin is really supporting McCarthy?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:07 PM (fWMRJ)

Who's next, Hugh Hewitt???
Posted by: Dr. T at December 08, 2022 01:10 PM (bhRsz)

I won't really know what to think until Mort Kondracke weighs in on it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2022 01:22 PM (YV6PJ)

94 8 reps from NY

( autocorrect is now deleting in addition to correcting)

Posted by: polynikes at December 08, 2022 01:22 PM (0om5x)

95 McCarthy needs to be kicked in the cunt.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 08, 2022 01:22 PM (ufFY8)

96 I agree with the Tree of Liberty (not Sodomy) upthread: Burn it down metaphorically so we don't have to do it literally.
==
Thank you dear, you always were a smart one. It is where we are at. If they won't go to the mattresses, eventually we will have to do it. So they need to get off their assess before shit gets real.

Posted by: Can you put an irrigation system in for the tree of liberty? Is that doable? at December 08, 2022 01:23 PM (xuYZH)

97 A true Operator would already have a foolproof plan to shank McCarthy before he opens his mouth.

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2022 01:23 PM (UnA8+)

98 I fucking hate Queen.

Almost as much as I hate RiNOs.

Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2022 01:23 PM (jr/Q9)

99 Levin got hammered for his flip-flop on McCarthy. Levin had me listening to his radio show on the way home for years, but that was years ago.

Blowhard.

Posted by: JM in Florida at December 08, 2022 01:23 PM (vVguR)

100 "We'll be looking at trillion next year easy."
Gonna need a bigger volcano...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2022 01:23 PM (jTmQV)

101 >>McCarthy needs to be kicked in the cunt.


What did I ever do to you!?

Posted by: Frank Luntz at December 08, 2022 01:23 PM (jr/Q9)

102 I like the bear emoji.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 01:24 PM (v0R5T)

103 96 Thank you dear, you always were a smart one. It is where we are at. If they won't go to the mattresses, eventually we will have to do it. So they need to get off their assess before shit gets real.
Posted by: Can you put an irrigation system in for the tree of liberty? Is that doable? at December 08, 2022 01:23 PM (xuYZH)

OK. But how do you _force them to do it_?

That's always been the question without an answer.

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2022 01:24 PM (UnA8+)

104 Levin is a member of the elite media. He gets invited to cocktail parties and wears nice suits, no tie. People ask his opinion on matters of state. He's impotent. Important.

Whatever.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 08, 2022 01:24 PM (Q4IgG)

105 Since the mouthpieces are assuring us that RUS is suffering a slow grinding defeat and running out of money and missiles and men and shells, I am assuming the opposite is the case.
----------------
There was a reason no American was allowed to buy GAZPROM at fifty cents a share.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:24 PM (ifUkZ)

106 Levin jumped the Slava Ukraine Shark.

Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2022 01:24 PM (jr/Q9)

107 whig - help me out here. I thought the House has always/long been the "dictatorship" model. Basically the Speaker runs the place, nothing happens without their OK.

Unlike the Senate, which is 100 city-states that have reserved lots of power to each individual member (and has enduring rules that are changed rarely).

So ace's reference to a top-down House struck me as sort of off. Thought it had always been that way. Surely was back in my days on the Hill.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2022 01:24 PM (OTzUX)

108 "AlextheChick for Speaker of the House!
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2022 01:20 PM (/7Sa4)

*endorsed*"

Dual hat her with Sergeant at Arms at the same time.

And authorize deadly force.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2022 01:24 PM (1n+EO)

109 I think it would be awesome for the GOP if we somehow ended up with Hakeem Jeffries as speaker. Biden level awesome.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:24 PM (MLrvz)

110 I've never had to care if I vote or not. I live in Connecticut. I vote all the time but it doesn't really matter. Maybe I'll have to rethink 2024. We'll see who the slime bags cough up to run and if it's worth it to get up early and vote. Posted by: Jaimo

I have lived in three states: Washington, Minnesota, and New Mexico. This affords me the luxury of never having to hold my nose and vote for a rhino asshoe just to keep the latest commie democrat miserable.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 08, 2022 01:24 PM (c1mVn)

111 Is there anything the base can do to help block.McCarthy ?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 08, 2022 01:25 PM (Kd4bG)

112 faits accoplis. (LOL, I pluralized that just to be a prick and annoy people.)

Shoulda' made it plural with an apostrophe for full effect.

Posted by: Oedipus at December 08, 2022 01:25 PM (YeToG)

113 I'm worried that if McCarthy and the FC don't come to some kind of arrangement, then the GOP vote will be fractured and there's a good chance the Dums will align with the usual GOP sell-outs and elect a "moderate" who will really be a Dumocrap.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2022 01:12 PM (iFTx/)



I'm not seeing the difference.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 08, 2022 01:25 PM (yQpMk)

114 74 Biggs is a good guy and his heart is on the right place. But he's not leadership material. Sorry.
Posted by: Marcus T

He is a bargaining chip for his caucus to force a reversion to the Hastert rule (majority of the caucus must support major legislation to be brought to the floor) and a privileged vacate the chair motion that brought down Boehner.

McCarthy certainly is even less of a leader than Biggs or McConnell by that measuring stick because he literally is the rent boy of a influence peddler.

Posted by: whig at December 08, 2022 01:25 PM (bDjBG)

115 Mark Levin is the Trey Gowdy of conservative journalism.

Posted by: Azathoth at December 08, 2022 01:25 PM (wb1YC)

116 Only Democrats let the base run their party.. the GOP is above such things.

Posted by: Inogame, in the rear with the gear at December 08, 2022 01:25 PM (53oGX)

117 Let the Dems elect a speaker. Hell, give the old bag another term. Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 08, 2022 01:25 PM (NgqoH)

118 I can't bear queen

Posted by: far hairy fag at December 08, 2022 01:25 PM (us2H3)

119 101 >>McCarthy needs to be kicked in the cunt.


What did I ever do to you!?
Posted by: Frank Luntz at December 08, 2022 01:23 PM (jr/Q9)

oral stuff?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 08, 2022 01:25 PM (pyVNc)

120 I just hope this doesn’t backfire like supporting the witch in Delaware

Posted by: Avi at December 08, 2022 01:25 PM (KBtuW)

121 111 Is there anything the base can do to help block.McCarthy ?
Posted by: vmom

If you have a GOP member of Congress as your representative, call them to politely ask them to dump McCarthy.

Posted by: whig at December 08, 2022 01:26 PM (bDjBG)

122 let's not forget about the repubs who helped the dems take down gingrich in the 1990s.

our motto (since the time of fdr): socialism is inevitable so let's take the money while we can.

Posted by: gnat's local 678 at December 08, 2022 01:26 PM (kFrCu)

123 Putting on my riot gear, but we do not have 230 seats. We got 222. I get both sides on this. If Gaetz and Biggs can do this without screwing up and getting a dem supported Speaker, great. But I do not see it.

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:26 PM (gwrBY)

124 "That's the problem with living with Frank Luntz"

Gaetz should have stopped right there.

Matt for Speaker!

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 08, 2022 01:26 PM (kJLpK)

125 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻
Posted by: BourbonChicken


An impressive display of forbearance.

Posted by: mikeski at December 08, 2022 01:26 PM (P1f+c)

126 I just hope this doesn’t backfire like supporting the witch in Delaware
Posted by: Avi

Thank you for your blowjob

Posted by: Sen Mike Castle (smrtst man in DE) at December 08, 2022 01:26 PM (5Al3g)

127 >>> In the days after January 6, McCarthy asked in a call with Liz Cheney whether Twitter can take away Conservative Congressman Barry Moore's Twitter account

So Cheney had the keys to the executive toilet, as well as the dems, but McCarthy didn't?
I guess that was obvious. It sounds like a cult where at each level you gain more access.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2022 01:27 PM (gfbgX)

128 Thank you dear, you always were a smart one. It is where we are at. If they won't go to the mattresses, eventually we will have to do it. So they need to get off their assess before shit gets real.
Posted by: Can you put an irrigation system in for the tree of liberty? Is that doable? at December 08, 2022 01:23 PM (xuYZH)

OK. But how do you _force them to do it_?

That's always been the question without an answer.
==
Five or six reps have to make it crystal clear that they will NEVER vote for McCarthy unless he agrees to reforms that put him at risk of removal if he backstabs us. This is the problem with the turtle as well. He's got too much power and no fear of reprisal.

Posted by: Can you put an irrigation system in for the tree of liberty? Is that doable? at December 08, 2022 01:27 PM (FgNd1)

129 Reforms in the House? Hah! Several members are talking about bringing back earmarks, an important tool to encourage waste, fraud and corruption.

Posted by: JM in Florida at December 08, 2022 01:28 PM (vVguR)

130 Since the mouthpieces are assuring us that RUS is suffering a slow grinding defeat and running out of money and missiles and men and shells, I am assuming the opposite is the case. Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:21 PM (1ais2)

I suspect we will have a good idea about that by the end of December.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2022 01:28 PM (xhaym)

131 But these useless (actually, disastrous) nothings in office didn't get there without being voted in. Most of them, over and over and over.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2022 01:21 PM (OTzUX)

Facially preposterous. This is a preposterous thing to believe. It requires one to completely disregard ones own experience and logic. It is not theoretically impossible, but it is preposterous.

Lindsay Graham's career is preposterous. I do not believe in preposterous things that preposterous people tell me are so. Same with Nancy Pelosi etc etc. Same with Stacey Abrams. Same with a maj Mexican California voting for Slavery Reparations.

I simply will not believe these ridiculous things.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:28 PM (1ais2)

132 113 I'm worried that if McCarthy and the FC don't come to some kind of arrangement, then the GOP vote will be fractured and there's a good chance the Dums will align with the usual GOP sell-outs and elect a "moderate" who will really be a Dumocrap.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2022 01:12 PM (iFTx/)


I'm not seeing the difference.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Essentially, the reality is the majority rules in the House and the Speaker is the voice of that majority. So, either the majority hangs together by making concessions that are a no brainer or the House becomes where adhoc coalitions and a weak speaker will rule the day.

Posted by: whig at December 08, 2022 01:28 PM (bDjBG)

133 The GOP House needs to feel the wrath of ranked choice voting.

Posted by: polynikes at December 08, 2022 01:28 PM (0om5x)

134 Idiotic post of the day from Power Line:

I wish National Review would let Andrew McCarthy’s columns out from behind its paywall, but it is not to be.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2022 01:28 PM (KCOCK)

135 Mark Levin is really supporting McCarthy?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:07 PM (fWMRJ)

Who's next, Hugh Hewitt???
Posted by: Dr. T at December 08, 2022 01:10 PM (bhRsz)

They all read from the same script.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 08, 2022 01:28 PM (kJLpK)

136 Is there anything the base can do to help block.McCarthy? Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion

How about sending him a stern letter. I have time today to come up with a draft.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 08, 2022 01:28 PM (c1mVn)

137 Biden To Hold Meeting With American Oil And Gas Producers To Ask Them To Help Ukraine​

.. has anybody mention to Joe that he is the (acting) President of the United States of America .. not Ukraine

Posted by: SMOD at December 08, 2022 01:28 PM (RHGPo)

138 AlextheChick for Speaker of the House!
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2022 01:20 PM (/7Sa4)

I fully support this. especially if there's para-llamas and flammenwuferen...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 08, 2022 01:28 PM (nXhwP)

139 Would love to someday have the mystery rock of Ukraine lifted for all to see. Can't imagine what's festering under there to elicit this level of fealty.

Posted by: DaisyB at December 08, 2022 01:29 PM (AbL8c)

140 Ironically, the biggest fundraiser state in the GOP is Cal.

McCarthy is great on bringing in money for the House races, but how he allocates, sucks for sure. Did a horrible job in Va, Penn, and Mich.

I get some want to burn down Rome, but how would you feel like with a Rino like Fitzpatrick of Penn as Speaker?

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:29 PM (gwrBY)

141 I don't trust McCarthy, and I don't trust Mark Levin, either.
He banned me from his FB page after I pointed out that "my buddy, Jake Tapper" (his words, a few years back) was married to a big Planned Parenthood exec. He's also shrill.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2022 01:29 PM (Zzbjj)

142 The truly astonishing (even by today's standards) spectacle/debacle of the GOP not being able to elect one of their own as Speaker does have a certain appeal.

But I doubt the educational or change-inducing value of the Nth kick of the mule that such a spectacle would represent.

You never know, but apart from the black swan/aberration of Trump's first term, there's been no learning curve apparent for years.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2022 01:29 PM (OTzUX)

143 I'm worried that if McCarthy and the FC don't come to some kind of arrangement, then the GOP vote will be fractured and there's a good chance the Dums will align with the usual GOP sell-outs and elect a "moderate" who will really be a Dumocrap.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2022 01:12 PM (iFTx/)


I'm not seeing the difference.


I'm at the point where I think it's necessary to do something dramatic to make the point to the GOPe leadership that we aren't going to play the old game any more. If that means we lose the SoH, so be it.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2022 01:29 PM (eOEVl)

144 sorry guys, Biden just too popular for this to matter

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:29 PM (MLrvz)

145 Honest question for the Horde: Did Rush have the effect of forcing a more or less uniform outlook on the conservative talk-radio hosts? Is the reason so many are going off the rails because Rush isn’t around to covertly enforce messaging discipline?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:29 PM (fWMRJ)

146 We can't have Gaetz for speaker...he had a BIG scandal!

You don't remember? The scandal was that Gaetz had sex with a woman he wasn't married to. No, no he wasn't married at the time either. He just had consensual sex with a woman he was dating.

No, seriously, this is what that big scandal was a couple of years ago.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2022 01:30 PM (ESjRY)

147 111 Is there anything the base can do to help block.McCarthy ?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 08, 2022 01:25 PM (Kd4bG)

Elect Kobachs in the few secure red states. Begin the cascade.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:30 PM (1ais2)

148 Biden Admin Will Ban Fossil Fuel Use In New Federal Buildings By 2030

.. why don't they ban air conditioning as well

Posted by: SMOD at December 08, 2022 01:30 PM (RHGPo)

149 I'm at the point where I think it's necessary to do something dramatic to make the point to the GOPe leadership that we aren't going to play the old game any more. If that means we lose the SoH, so be it.


The fact that McCarthy isn't willing to step aside for the good of the party, and hence the country, tells me that they still think the old ways are operative.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2022 01:30 PM (eOEVl)

150 I think it would be awesome for the GOP if we somehow ended up with Hakeem Jeffries as speaker. Biden level awesome.
==
Pretty hard to maintain DENIAL in the face of that. . . oh no we just need to vote harder! have better quality candidates! respect bortions! and we'll win elections. We might as well have voted for democrats with what we get from the GOPe anyway. They need to know that they MUST change, or they will be finished as a party.

Posted by: Can you put an irrigation system in for the tree of liberty? Is that doable? at December 08, 2022 01:30 PM (+dAOC)

151 What did Biggs do to help Kari Lake and Masters?

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:31 PM (gwrBY)

152 Interesting--faits accomplis really is the plural of fait accompli. I would have thought that one or the other of the two words would be pluralized, but not both.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 08, 2022 01:31 PM (S7une)

153 Whether McCarthy wins this thing, maybe after agreeing to a laundry list of past-due reforms, or not he still just pisses me off.

Americans are political prisoners right down the street from McCarthy's Luntz love nest and he never says boo about it. Not One Word.

I can't stand the guy.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2022 01:31 PM (8jGbt)

154 It doesn't have to be a Congressman.

We want Prince Heinrich XIII Reuss of Greiz!!!
👑

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 08, 2022 01:32 PM (Vwz3I)

155 140 Ironically, the biggest fundraiser state in the GOP is Cal.

McCarthy is great on bringing in money for the House races, but how he allocates, sucks for sure. Did a horrible job in Va, Penn, and Mich.

I get some want to burn down Rome, but how would you feel like with a Rino like Fitzpatrick of Penn as Speaker?
Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:29 PM (gwrBY)

Much much better. They hate ppl like me and are more open about it. And it forces the contradictions more. And we'd prob get the same stuff anyway.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:32 PM (1ais2)

156 I hate McConnell with a thousand fires, but somebody tell me what McCarthy did factually, to deserve this scorn? any specific races?

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:32 PM (gwrBY)

157 Biden To Hold Meeting With American Oil And Gas Producers To Ask Them To Help Ukraine​
........

I was thinking maybe he should go to the Euroweenies first.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 01:32 PM (v0R5T)

158 139

“They turned the stone and looked beneath it.
‘Peace on Earth’ was all it said.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:32 PM (fWMRJ)

159 This could all end tomorrow if McCarthy would do what is best of the country, step aside and allow Scalise or Jordan to run. Either would get enough votes.

But he won't, which tells you all you need to know about Kevin.

He brought it on himself. Everyone knew he was tanking races on purpose, it is an open secret. And this is the payback, he didn't win enough of a cushion and 5 members of the Freedom Caucus can now force him to rely on Democrat votes to win.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 08, 2022 01:32 PM (5p7BC)

160 Putting on my riot gear, but we do not have 230 seats. We got 222. I get both sides on this. If Gaetz and Biggs can do this without screwing up and getting a dem supported Speaker, great. But I do not see it.
Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:26 PM (gwrBY)
++++
Dem support is likely. I'd like to see an actual Dem speaker, though. McCarthy in particular needs to be punished for what he did. He wanted this shitty outcome of a razor-thin majority, and he got it. He should not be rewarded for it with the Speaker's gavel. I would much rather see the Democrats and the hyper-cucks get together and elect a "moderate" Democrat to that position, so the GOP can go ahead and implode and join the ash heap of history where it belongs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2022 01:32 PM (t0OGg)

161 >>Biden Admin Will Ban Fossil Fuel Use In New Federal Buildings By 2030


The Feds don't own buildings. They rent them.

It's part of the scam.

Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2022 01:32 PM (jr/Q9)

162 142 The truly astonishing (even by today's standards) spectacle/debacle of the GOP not being able to elect one of their own as Speaker does have a certain appeal.

///

you know, I guess it's doomerism.

Like Cotton told Kroger. Good luck you cucks. Fuck off because you've been worse than useless.

And if the American Ballot Population doesn't care, then 2024 will be the same. and who cares? How much more ghey and fascist can Biden go anyway?

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:32 PM (MLrvz)

163 Is that Griner thing really even a woman? Any of you guys had the, uh...pleasure? IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 08, 2022 01:32 PM (S7une)

164 I like Pelosi back better than Ryan. Bitch gets shit done.

In addition, it appears Americans like the Democrat way better. Win, win.

Posted by: DOYLE at December 08, 2022 01:33 PM (Z8Yh2)

165 We live in Clown World so seeing a Donk elected as SOH of an ostensibly GOP controlled congress would be wildly amusing.

It's not like the GOP actually has an agenda to do anything, so I don't really care at this point one way or the other.

It's a joke, it's a all a joke.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 08, 2022 01:33 PM (3Wwxz)

166 Margerie Taylor Green or Lauren Bohbert, yo.

Posted by: Eromero at December 08, 2022 01:33 PM (mE3sO)

167 Mark Levin always did sound like the Jim Cramer of politics. Support Kevin (Jenny's boob) McCarthy and Bear Stearns.

Posted by: Marooned at December 08, 2022 01:33 PM (w6hJ9)

168 Since the mouthpieces are assuring us that RUS is suffering a slow grinding defeat and running out of money and missiles and men and shells, I am assuming the opposite is the case.

The new Russian general is using mini-Verdun tactics: after pulling out the Russian troops from exposed positions around Kherson back to the east side of the Dnieper, he's fighting a war of attrition around Bakhmut, where the Ukrainians are in an inferior position and are taking heavier casualties.

Couple that with continuing to destroy Ukrainian electrical infrastructure, and the Russian position is strengthening, not weakening.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2022 01:33 PM (KCOCK)

169 Biden To Hold Meeting With American Oil And Gas Producers To Ask Them To Help Ukraine​ ...
Posted by: SMOD at December 08, 2022 01:28 PM (RHGPo)
++++
How about stepping off their throats so they can help *Americans,* Joe?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2022 01:33 PM (t0OGg)

170 Biden Admin Will Ban Fossil Fuel Use In New Federal Buildings By 2030

***

I guess on the plus side a wooden and porcelain laptop doesn't use as much electricity.

Posted by: Azathoth at December 08, 2022 01:33 PM (wb1YC)

171 I hate McConnell with a thousand fires, but somebody tell me what McCarthy did factually, to deserve this scorn? any specific races?
----
CA-13, WA-3, MI-3 ...

I can go on if you like.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 08, 2022 01:33 PM (5p7BC)

172 He just had consensual sex with a woman he was dating.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2022 01:30 PM (ESjRY)

That should disqualify him from holding public office!

Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at December 08, 2022 01:33 PM (XIJ/X)

173 What did Biggs do to help Kari Lake and Masters?
Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:31 PM (gwrBY)
===============
What we know for a fact is that McCarthy does zippo for Jan 6 prisoners of conscience. No, wait! He did something just the other day: He handed out medals to their executioners.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2022 01:34 PM (8jGbt)

174 I don't know if Rush enforced message discipline. I just know he set the standard.

And that I miss him terribly.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 08, 2022 01:34 PM (wSrM+)

175 Pretty hard to maintain DENIAL in the face of that. . . oh no we just need to vote harder! have better quality candidates! respect bortions! and we'll win elections. We might as well have voted for democrats with what we get from the GOPe anyway. They need to know that they MUST change, or they will be finished as a party.

///

we're going into a Great Depression anyway, the SPOR is almost empty and we've already printed $10 trillion dollars while we flood the country with illegals.

who fucking cares. The country I grew up in is dead.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:34 PM (MLrvz)

176 Zombie Genghis Khan for SOH. That dude got shit done.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 08, 2022 01:34 PM (S7une)

177 Zalensky is a grifter. World Human rights commission ranks Kiev as the Human trafficking capital of the world.

WTF

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:34 PM (gwrBY)

178 The Feds don't own buildings. They rent them.

Sometimes. The Feds definitely own the courthouses, along with many other Federal buildings.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2022 01:34 PM (KCOCK)

179 Couple that with continuing to destroy Ukrainian electrical infrastructure, and the Russian position is strengthening, not weakening.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

You never tire of saying this.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2022 01:35 PM (5Al3g)

180 Sometimes you just do what is right and let the chips fall where they may. Overthinking things frequently leads to a worse outcome.

Posted by: polynikes at December 08, 2022 01:35 PM (0om5x)

181 Honest question for the Horde: Did Rush have the effect of forcing a more or less uniform outlook on the conservative talk-radio hosts? Is the reason so many are going off the rails because Rush isn’t around to covertly enforce messaging discipline?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:29 PM (fWMRJ)

More likely, Rush meant the things he said. Some (not all) of these others are charlatans, mouthing words to get ratings without believing anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2022 01:35 PM (YV6PJ)

182 Biden Admin Will Ban Fossil Fuel Use In New Federal Buildings By 2030
........

Maybe all the fed employees will quit and go to work someplace warm.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 01:35 PM (v0R5T)

183 145 Honest question for the Horde: Did Rush have the effect of forcing a more or less uniform outlook on the conservative talk-radio hosts? Is the reason so many are going off the rails because Rush isn’t around to covertly enforce messaging discipline?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:29 PM (fWMRJ)

Ppl will have to come to terms with the fact that Rush's career is not one unified whole. The beginning was incredible and the mid to end was compromised. That's just the truth. He made a large step toward forgiveness with his Trump backing. I suppose he did what he could with the exposure to destruction he had over him.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:35 PM (1ais2)

184 "sorry guys, Biden just too popular for this to matter"


Sheer beauty. Understated and concise. Well done.

Posted by: DOYLE at December 08, 2022 01:35 PM (Z8Yh2)

185 166 Margerie Taylor Green or Lauren Bohbert, yo.
Posted by: Eromero at December 08, 2022 01:33 PM (mE3sO

Has the race for Boebert even been called yet ?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 08, 2022 01:35 PM (bs+z0)

186 The one thing that I find interesting about this discussion is that I surmise I have exactly as much control over who gets selected to be speaker as who was selected to be president or senator or representative. A very familiar feeling.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 08, 2022 01:36 PM (2oHWb)

187 All deals going forward will be worked out in back rooms with his coterie of liberals and with his Good Democrat Friends and then brought to the floor for a vote as faits accoplis. (LOL, I pluralized that just to be a prick and annoy people.)

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Prick Ace is best Ace.

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 08, 2022 01:36 PM (UQEkW)

188 >>Sometimes. The Feds definitely own the courthouses, along with many other Federal buildings.


Yes. But read closlier : New Federal Buildings.


They are going to break with previous rental agreements and enter into agreements with Women / Minority owners and then Subsidize their construction.

Bank on it. I know this portion of the Government Scam intimately.

Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2022 01:36 PM (jr/Q9)

189 I'm worried that if McCarthy and the FC don't come to some kind of arrangement, then the GOP vote will be fractured and there's a good chance the Dums will align with the usual GOP sell-outs and elect a "moderate" who will really be a Dumocrap.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2022 01:12 PM (iFTx/)


I'm not seeing the difference.
==
The GOPe vote is already fractured. They are the uniparty. There are very few actual conservative republicans. You are being fooled. You "think" you have the house, but you don't the uniparty still has it. So you aren't losing anything - you can't lose something you don't have. If you can't coerce him into a situation where he puts himself at risk, then he'll do whatever the uniparty wants once he is safe. Might as well have a Demo speaker to own the shit that happens next and not a putative Republican. (Trust me, the shit show that is coming is going to be epic)

Posted by: Can you put an irrigation system in for the tree of liberty? Is that doable? at December 08, 2022 01:36 PM (ZtznF)

190 @185

>>Has the race for Boebert even been called yet ?

Was going to go to a mandatory recount but her challenger conceded rather that the recount expose the massive fraud that made the race close.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 08, 2022 01:36 PM (3Wwxz)

191 173. Thanks Huck. That is valid, and pisses me off. But he was not Speaker. did have the juice to do anything to free them.

McCarthy should fire the capital police, and then bring in the Guardian angels. They would do better

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:37 PM (gwrBY)

192 146 We can't have Gaetz for speaker...he had a BIG scandal!

You don't remember? The scandal was that Gaetz had sex with a woman he wasn't married to. No, no he wasn't married at the time either. He just had consensual sex with a woman he was dating.

No, seriously, this is what that big scandal was a couple of years ago.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2022 01:30 PM (ESjRY)

Isn't Ryan, and God knows what gets him off, the only sober heterosexual Republican speaker since Newt was banging side pieces?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 08, 2022 01:37 PM (kJLpK)

193 Couple that with continuing to destroy Ukrainian electrical infrastructure, and the Russian position is strengthening, not weakening.


For most of the war it looked like both sides were avoiding destroying infrastructure unnecessarily. And then the Ukrainians blew up the bridge to Crimea. I think that ended the agreement.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 08, 2022 01:37 PM (yQpMk)

194 107 whig - help me out here. I thought the House has always/long been the "dictatorship" model. Basically the Speaker runs the place, nothing happens without their OK.
Posted by: rhomboid

Not really, the imperial Speaker role has waxed and waned. Thomas Reed and his protege Joe Cannon had the imperial speaker role to a degree not seen in modern times. Then Joe was effectively deprived of his power by a coalition of progressive GOP members and Dems.

Later GOP and Dem speakers were solicitous of membership and were often dominated by seniority picked committee chairs that ran their committees with an iron fist. That was deposed in the 1970's by liberal Dems frustrated by senior Southern Dems as chairs in key committees. Then the power moved to the caucus under Albert, Tip O Neill, and then Jim Wright (strong) and Foley (weak). The Gingrich win in 94 led to the reversion to a strong speakership with a term limit rule on committee chair and ranking memberships. Hastert was a reversion to a weak speaker and Pelosi, Boehner, and Ryan back to strong.

It is a complicated story but basically the Speaker's power waxes and wanes based on the membership in the House.

Posted by: whig at December 08, 2022 01:37 PM (bDjBG)

195 >165 It's not like the GOP actually has an agenda to do anything, so I don't really care at this point one way or the other.
--
^This. Except they do have an agenda, which is to grift as hard and as long as possible on that sweet K Street crack.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 08, 2022 01:37 PM (NgqoH)

196 Zalensky is a grifter. World Human rights commission ranks Kiev as the Human trafficking capital of the world.
........

Mail Order Brides FTW

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 01:37 PM (v0R5T)

197 I like Matt Gaetz but he really does look like Butthead

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 08, 2022 01:37 PM (M+Lyo)

198 Paul Ryan is endorsing McCarthy?

Good enough for me - he's got my vote!

Posted by: 496 at December 08, 2022 01:37 PM (W5nQ+)

199 >>> 62 55 ...Best outcome: Total gridlock, no speaker, the Democrats band together with some hyper-cucks to install a Democrat as speaker despite with Republican majority.

///

well, yeah. that was the outcome even if we got a red wave (you know, in a year where GOP candidate quality didn't doom the GOP while, you know, the democrats are immune to quality concerns blah blah blach).

Even if we got my dream results, House +50 and Senate +6, we'd still be facing lockdowns and budget battles. which we'd lose with the old leadership.

now...with a House +3...yeah, NGMI
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:18 PM (MLrvz)

It's cute that some of you still think "candidate quality (as defined by the commie-whore press)" is still a thing.

Posted by: Massive Fcking Election Fraud at December 08, 2022 01:38 PM (llON8)

200 You never tire of saying this.

Happens to be true. It's why the Ukrainians are desperately trying to escalate the war - by attacking Russian strategic nuclear bomber bases, for example.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2022 01:38 PM (KCOCK)

201 can't some COB banhammer our latest Kurt incarnation and save us from his milliKohns of stupid?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2022 01:38 PM (8jGbt)

202 You don't remember? The scandal was that Gaetz had sex with a woman he wasn't married to. No, no he wasn't married at the time either. He just had consensual sex with a woman he was dating.

///

But the Kate McKinnon News Hour with Musical Guest Variety Show said it was a super big deal

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:38 PM (MLrvz)

203 I thought Duarte won the Cal 13 Dave

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:38 PM (gwrBY)

204 Moment of WTF

"Democrats who are naturally suspicious of mega corporations " _ the Blaze.
Article on Kroger merger

Posted by: Braenyard's phone at December 08, 2022 01:38 PM (CQ7Ov)

205 Sometimes. The Feds definitely own the courthouses, along with many other Federal buildings.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2022 01:34 PM (KCOCK)

I wish a state would announce that all Federal buildings in their state must remove AC and never run the heat above 62 degrees. It is all part of the state's global warming initiative.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at December 08, 2022 01:38 PM (C35Jn)

206 Biden To Hold Meeting With American Oil And Gas Producers To Ask Them To Help Ukraine​ ...Posted by: SMOD

Is it asking to much to hope that they will tell FJB to "Go Fuck Yourself."

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 08, 2022 01:38 PM (c1mVn)

207 Former Israeli Ambassador to the U.N. Danny Danon told Breitbart News on Thursday a peace deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia would likely be signed within a year.

Danon made his remarks from the First Annual Abraham Accords Global Leadership Summit in Rome, which was attended by world leaders, diplomats and others from more than 30 countries.

Posted by: SMOD at December 08, 2022 01:38 PM (RHGPo)

208 Yes Joe Kent got screwed. for sure.

Palin moving to phoenix destroyed her

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:38 PM (gwrBY)

209 Dave in Fla, what form did Kevin's f***ery take in those races? Denied them $$? Leaned in to try and have someone else win the primaries, then abandon the race? Just curious.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (OTzUX)

210 Yes. But read closlier : New Federal Buildings.

Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2022 01:36 PM (jr/Q9)


Yep, I caught that too.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (DRSnL)

211 It's cute that some of you still think "candidate quality (as defined by the commie-whore press)" is still a thing.

///

I had no idea candidate quality mattered until it apparently made us lose every race that mattered (in places with ballot harvesting and open air ballot boxes) during a red wave election.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (MLrvz)

212 Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:35 PM (1ais2)

Not a big Rush fan ( really not a fan of any pundit) but it aggravates me when people accuse others of selling out as soon as they have a different opinion on things.

Posted by: polynikes at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (0om5x)

213 I find "Go fuck yourselves" to be undiplomatic, unhelpful and the wrong response, ace.

Instead I would recommend the phrase:

"Go fuck your dead mother's dick, McCarthy"

to be more appropriate and accurately reflecting the world we now live in.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (VTu1l)

214 I hate McConnell with a thousand fires, but somebody tell me what McCarthy did factually, to deserve this scorn? any specific races?

Exactly. What did McCarthy ever do? What would you say he does here?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (eOEVl)

215 so yeah, candidate quality is a smokescreen by the gaslighters guild

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (MLrvz)

216 Great info here today, on both sides of the topic.

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:40 PM (gwrBY)

217 174 I don't know if Rush enforced message discipline. I just know he set the standard.

And that I miss him terribly.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 08, 2022 01:34 PM (wSrM+)

On some level, it feels like Rush was the one holding the Right together.

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2022 01:40 PM (UnA8+)

218 The irony here is that the Republicans wanting new leadership are finding out that the rank and file GOP doesn't give a shit about them anymore then they give a shit about their base.

Oh, and vote harder. That'll work.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 08, 2022 01:40 PM (Q4IgG)

219 It's why the Ukrainians are desperately trying to escalate the war - by attacking Russian strategic nuclear bomber bases, for example.

Doing that was sufficiently egregious that we publicly came out and said that we had nothing to do with the Ukrainians doing that, and that we had deliberately limited the range of the missiles that we had supplied Ukraine so they couldn't do that with American equipment.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2022 01:40 PM (KCOCK)

220 The one thing that I find interesting about this discussion is that I surmise I have exactly as much control over who gets selected to be speaker as who was selected to be president or senator or representative. A very familiar feeling.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 08, 2022 01:36 PM (2oHWb)

----------

Not to mention how much control you will have in your future food, shelter, and transportation choices. #Soon, comrade!

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 08, 2022 01:40 PM (UQEkW)

221 212 Not a big Rush fan ( really not a fan of any pundit) but it aggravates me when people accuse others of selling out as soon as they have a different opinion on things.
Posted by: polynikes at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (0om5x)

It would frustrate me, but I don't want to be thrown on the ash-heap with the sellouts.

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2022 01:41 PM (UnA8+)

222 These fuckwits can do whatever they want, come time to vote again, I am voting for the D in the race just to get rid of the shit stains.

Posted by: TC at December 08, 2022 01:41 PM (FjlUt)

223 Has the race for Boebert even been called yet ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 08, 2022 01:35 PM (bs+z0)

Legally mandated recount is happening as we speak. I don't think anyone expects the result to change... but nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition either.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2022 01:41 PM (YV6PJ)

224 I want it
I want it
I want it

You caaaaaan't have it!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 08, 2022 01:41 PM (AuTCi)

225

Per the quote, McCarthy isn't an "ideologue." The fuck does that mean?

What's the ideology in question; sanity, the free market and America first principles and the Constitution?

I hate these bastards.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 08, 2022 01:41 PM (x0n13)

226 Couple that with continuing to destroy Ukrainian electrical infrastructure, and the Russian position is strengthening, not weakening.


For most of the war it looked like both sides were avoiding destroying infrastructure unnecessarily. And then the Ukrainians blew up the bridge to Crimea. I think that ended the agreement.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Russia was heaving shit into populated areas since day 1.
Hospitals and nuclear power plants were hit and/or seized.

Now that Russia isn't as capable of projecting power and taking (and holding) ground, they are hitting power and water with the onset of winter.

Ukraine had few weapons to reach longe range targets, and was being pressured to NOT hit Russian or Belarus territory.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2022 01:41 PM (5Al3g)

227 And here it is. The reason Biden chose Griner over the Marine:

@greg_price11

KJP: "The choice was bring Brittney home or no one. The president will never stop working to secure Paul Whelan's release. On a personal note, Brittney is an important role model, an inspiration to millions of Americans particularly the LGBTQI+ Americans and women of color."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (ptqGC)

228 212 Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:35 PM (1ais2)

Not a big Rush fan ( really not a fan of any pundit) but it aggravates me when people accuse others of selling out as soon as they have a different opinion on things.
Posted by: polynikes at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (0om5x)

He changed dude. Ask: to what? and why? and when?

Listen to early shows and his later stuff. He became Milquetoast .

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (1ais2)

229 I had no idea candidate quality mattered until it apparently made us lose every race that mattered (in places with ballot harvesting and open air ballot boxes) during a red wave election.

*****************

I can't vote for Herschel Walker, he's too extreme on being pro-life

***sits out election so extreme pro abortionist up to birth Warnock wins instead***

Posted by: Stupid Fucking Georgian Voters Who Can Go Fuck Their Dead Mother's Dicks at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (VTu1l)

230 139 Would love to someday have the mystery rock of Ukraine lifted for all to see. Can't imagine what's festering under there to elicit this level of fealty.
Posted by: DaisyB at December 08, 2022 01:29 PM (AbL8c)

I suspect it all goes back to 1939-1943. A metric craptop of bad blood then (100,000 dead Poles at the hands of Ukrainian militia, who also were generally nasty to the Russians when the Germans came through on their way into Russia) and I'm certain it hasn't gone forgotten.

What I can't figure out is the Poles siding with the Utes, unless the Poles just hate the Russians more. Maybe simple as that.

And clearly, the Poles still have a beef with the Germans.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (MkuC5)

231 How about AOC as Speaker if she shows us her tits?

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (ifUkZ)

232 whig thanks, very helpful.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (OTzUX)

233 It's me Donna @ 185-
I'd furnish Margerie and Lauren with canes and authority to thrash at the slightest orovocation.

Posted by: Eromero at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (mE3sO)

234 Exactly. What did McCarthy ever do? What would you say he does here?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (eOEVl)
==================

"Office Space" references are always appropriate for Congress.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (8jGbt)

235 And if the American Ballot Population doesn't care, then 2024 will be the same. and who cares? How much more ghey and fascist can Biden go anyway?
==
Today I signed an executive order requiring all males in the U.S. over the age of 40 to wear in public, gym shoes, a jock strap, a feather boa, sunglasses and nothing else.

Posted by: President Grabby Hands and Stinky Pants at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (xt5JI)

236 The new Russian general is using mini-Verdun tactics: after pulling out the Russian troops from exposed positions around Kherson back to the east side of the Dnieper, he's fighting a war of attrition around Bakhmut, where the Ukrainians are in an inferior position and are taking heavier casualties.

Couple that with continuing to destroy Ukrainian electrical infrastructure, and the Russian position is strengthening, not weakening.


What's the source for your claim that the Ukes are taking heavier casualties?

You never tire of saying this.

Yeah, he seems to just enjoy starting s***. We have a name for people like that. I think I'll just stop responding to him. He's getting boring.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (eOEVl)

237 Can we give Russia something to take McCarthy and Squish Incorporated off our hands? Like I mean actually give them something of value?

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (yb11p)

238 craptop... CRAPTON

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (MkuC5)

239 One thing that gets forgotten here, is McCarthy was leader in 2020, when we won 12 house seats against all odds. We were supposed to lose 15 to 20. I think would Dave would agree with that.

That makes 22 in two years. Not great, but enough

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (gwrBY)

240 Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (ptqGC)

Inspiration to millions of Americans ? BS

Posted by: It's me donna at December 08, 2022 01:43 PM (bs+z0)

241 Kevin and Frank, just two dudes who like hanging out. Roomies just having some dude time going to Subway and splitting a foot long.

Posted by: Mm ishdog at December 08, 2022 01:43 PM (91Pn5)

242 163 Is that Griner thing really even a woman? Any of you guys had the, uh...pleasure? IYKWIMAITTYD.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 08, 2022 01:32 PM (S7une)

well. at least we know he's a eunuch now after spending some time in a labot camp

Posted by: REDACTED at December 08, 2022 01:43 PM (us2H3)

243 KJP: "The choice was bring Brittney home or no one. The president will never stop working to secure Paul Whelan's release. On a personal note, Brittney is an important role model, an inspiration to millions of Americans particularly the LGBTQI+ Americans and women of color."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (ptqGC)
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The first sentence was a throwaway. Only the second sentence matters.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2022 01:44 PM (8jGbt)

244 How about AOC as Speaker if she shows us her tits?
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM

And her big juicy booty?

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 08, 2022 01:44 PM (yb11p)

245 Oh, and vote harder. That'll work.

*********************

Maybe we should go beyond that and try voting harderer?

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger Who We Do Not Speak Of at December 08, 2022 01:44 PM (VTu1l)

246 "...and splitting a foot long."

Is that like a meat cannon?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at December 08, 2022 01:44 PM (aW5/6)

247
Not a big Rush fan ( really not a fan of any pundit) but it aggravates me when people accuse others of selling out as soon as they have a different opinion on things.
Posted by: polynikes at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (0om5x)

He changed dude. Ask: to what? and why? and when?

Listen to early shows and his later stuff. He became Milquetoast .
Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (1ais2)

Fwiw, I do not think he "sold out". I think history shows he toned it waaaaaay down after undergoing some " life experiences" if you will.

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:44 PM (1ais2)

248 244 How about AOC as Speaker if she shows us her tits?
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM

And her big juicy booty?
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That would work.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:44 PM (ifUkZ)

249 Per the quote, McCarthy isn't an "ideologue." The fuck does that mean?
==
when we scratch him behind the ear, he purrs. . . he is our pet.

Posted by: Ernst Stavros Blofeld at December 08, 2022 01:44 PM (UMi9o)

250 One thing that gets forgotten here, is McCarthy was leader in 2020, when we won 12 house seats against all odds. We were supposed to lose 15 to 20. I think would Dave would agree with that.

That makes 22 in two years. Not great, but enough


Is it though? What specific thing did McCarthy do to even accomplish this weak sauce? From where I'm sitting, all I see him doing is p***ing off the base.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2022 01:44 PM (eOEVl)

251 Wow. Much defense, So freedom.

@ChadPergram 38s

House approves defense bill, 350 to 80

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (IyrhE)

252 9 1 St. Who?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:08 PM (fWMRJ)

Doctor...

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (Rbu5d)

253 Gaetz nails it.

McCarthy is like Ronna Romney. Only worse.

McCarthy's DNA is to lose and to lose bigly.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (wReBR)

254 239 One thing that gets forgotten here, is McCarthy was leader in 2020, when we won 12 house seats against all odds. We were supposed to lose 15 to 20. I think would Dave would agree with that.

That makes 22 in two years. Not great, but enough
Posted by: Jonah

The 2020 results were marred by fraud and primarily due not to McCarthy but Trump as maligned as he was. Gaining 11 million votes from 2016 is unprecedented increase of turnout and no one is seriously suggesting that McCarthy and McConnell did that for GOP candidates.

Posted by: whig at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (bDjBG)

255 On some level, it feels like Rush was the one holding the Right together.

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2022 01:40 PM (UnA8+)

--------

I've said it before: Rush single-handedly saved conservatism after Reagan ... until he could hand it off to Trump.

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (CVM2N)

256 I remain indifferent as to whether Ukraine is run by Ukrainian gangsters or Russian gangsters. I just want us out of it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (yQpMk)

257 >>> How about AOC as Speaker if she shows us her tits?
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (ifUkZ)


That's like, totally not cool. She hasn't even shown me and I'm her totally tubular main shopping buddy.

Posted by: Riley Nonuts at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (2oHWb)

258 I hate McConnell with a thousand fires, but somebody tell me what McCarthy did factually, to deserve this scorn? any specific races?
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He leaves the toilet seat up

Posted by: Frank Luntz at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (gfbgX)

259 That is what happens in the wealthy burbs in IL. The Karen's and their wimpy men, are the first ones to bitch about inflation, gas, and property taxes. Many are so called moderate Republicans.

But then they vote dem due to right to kill Babies

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (gwrBY)

260 At this point, does it really matter who the speaker is? I mean, really?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (BdMk6)

261 218 The irony here is that the Republicans wanting new leadership are finding out that the rank and file GOP doesn't give a shit about them anymore then they give a shit about their base.

Oh, and vote harder. That'll work.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 08, 2022 01:40 PM (Q4IgG)

Exactly. I did not vote in November and it felt good. Granted, neither of my senators were up, the House incumbent was a lock, yadda, yadda, so it was a low cost thing to do. And both of my senators, who seem not to be cucks, elected McConnell again as leader and my MoC is solidly in McCarthy's camp. Staying home will be even easier come 2024.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (kJLpK)

262 Happens to be true. It's why the Ukrainians are desperately trying to escalate the war - by attacking Russian strategic nuclear bomber bases, for example.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

So much stupidity here.

The country is fighting off another, larger invading country. And they are escalating the invasion.

If they protest loss of civilian life, that would also be an escalation?

Ukraine never should have given up its nuclear weapons. Your statement is proof of this.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2022 01:46 PM (5Al3g)

263 Yeah, he seems to just enjoy starting s***. We have a name for people like that. I think I'll just stop responding to him. He's getting boring.

Do you still think that eastern Ukrainians should be treated as a conquered people, deprived of all civil rights?

So, when is the Ukrainian blitz starting to retake all of the conquered territories, plus Crimea?

I thought that was going to happen any day now.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2022 01:46 PM (KCOCK)

264 Honest question for the Horde: Did Rush have the effect of forcing a more or less uniform outlook on the conservative talk-radio hosts? Is the reason so many are going off the rails because Rush isn’t around to covertly enforce messaging discipline?

Rush wasn't kidding when he said he was the show prep for everyone else.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2022 01:46 PM (ZGrMX)

265 Biden is set to announce a $36 billion bailout for the Central States Pension Fund – one of the nation’s biggest multi-employer plans.

Posted by: SMOD at December 08, 2022 01:46 PM (RHGPo)

266 How about AOC as Speaker if she shows us her tits?
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (ifUkZ)
........

Does she have to speak?

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 01:46 PM (v0R5T)

267 251 Wow. Much defense, So freedom.

@ChadPergram 38s

///

right? this is the omnibus bill that basically negates the new GOP House?

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:46 PM (MLrvz)

268 241 Kevin and Frank, just two dudes who like hanging out. Roomies just having some dude time going to Subway and splitting a foot long.
Posted by: Mm ishdog

*4.25 inches long

Posted by: Frank Luntz at December 08, 2022 01:47 PM (gfbgX)

269 The coffee and beans inspired farting in "Blazing Saddles" wasn't the only well-thought-out homage to famous bouts of flatulence in history. The character of Governor LePetomane’s name was actually a spin on famous French entertainer Joseph Pujol.
Pujol’s stage name was “Le Pétomane”, which actually meant Fartomaniac, because he performed hilarious feats of flatulence with his extremely talented abdominal muscles. He blew out candles and even made music from farts!

Posted by: SMOD at December 08, 2022 01:47 PM (RHGPo)

270 Kevin and Frank, just two dudes who like hanging out. Roomies just having some dude time going to Subway and splitting a foot long.
Posted by: Mm ishdog at December 08, 2022 01:43 PM (91Pn5)

What would it take for Kevin and Frank to enjoy a footlong together?

Invite two more fellas over.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2022 01:47 PM (YV6PJ)

271 Biden is set to announce a $36 billion bailout for the Central States Pension Fund – one of the nation’s biggest multi-employer plans.
Posted by: SMOD at December 08, 2022 01:46 PM

Who bails me out if I make shitty decisions? Oh, that's right. Nobody. FJB.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 08, 2022 01:47 PM (yb11p)

272 I remain indifferent as to whether Ukraine is run by Ukrainian gangsters or Russian gangsters. I just want us out of it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (yQpMk)
.........

Go long on men's track suits.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (v0R5T)

273 Rush used to refuse to talk about one world gov.

He knew where his line was.

Posted by: DOYLE at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (Z8Yh2)

274 Yes Whig, But he was leader in 2020. You cannot deny that. No doubt Trump on the ticket helped, does well on house seats. Senate. Meh

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (gwrBY)

275 Happens to be true. It's why the Ukrainians are desperately trying to escalate the war - by attacking Russian strategic nuclear bomber bases, for example.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

So much stupidity here.

The country is fighting off another, larger invading country. And they are escalating the invasion.


In fact, the Ukes are doing quite well. At least they have proper winter kit for their soldiers.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (eOEVl)

276 251 Wow. Much defense, So freedom.

@ChadPergram 38s

//////

so the new GOP congress doesn't even matter.

why not lose hard and we can sift through the ashes of 2024. I mean, sure, there won't be any quality candidates for the GOP in 2024 but maybe the smoking ash heap that remains will eventually overcome the ballot harvesting advantage the left has and do something interesting.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (MLrvz)

277 31 Wish someone would audit where all this Ukraine money is going. We already know the weapons have ended up in Africa.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 08, 2022 01:12 PM (6VKyY)

Some went to the dems, Z, and the big guy via FTX .

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (Rbu5d)

278 right? this is the omnibus bill that basically negates the new GOP House?
==
you say that like it was planned . . .

*continues petting Kevin McCarthy*

Posted by: Ernst Stavros Blofeld at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (IIL8K)

279 266 How about AOC as Speaker if she shows us her tits?
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:42 PM (ifUkZ)
........

Does she have to speak?
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A Speaker with a ball gag might work here.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (ifUkZ)

280 One thing that gets forgotten here, is McCarthy was leader in 2020, when we won 12 house seats against all odds. We were supposed to lose 15 to 20. I think would Dave would agree with that.

That makes 22 in two years. Not great, but enough
Posted by: Jonah

I think Gaetz would agree with you but what he's saying is McCarthy is not the right guy for the job at this point in our fight. Same argument many use for Trump who otherwise might not support him.

Posted by: polynikes at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (0om5x)

281 232 whig thanks, very helpful.
Posted by: rhomboid

Glad it helped. It really requires almost essay length but you either have a strong Speaker model that uses handpicked task forces, the rules cmte, and the stick or conditional party government where the majority of the caucus or seniority rules makes staffing and agenda decisions. The House has wavered between the two models over the last 120 years or so.

Posted by: whig at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (bDjBG)

282 I don't know is that was an excerpt from Gaetz, but in the even not, he left out McCarthy making the vote re Cheney's leadership role private. That was a real fuck you moment, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (kJLpK)

283 Kevin and Frank, just two dudes who like hanging out. Roomies just having some dude time going to Subway and splitting a foot long.
Posted by: Mm ishdog at December 08, 2022 01:43 PM


Sounds a bit like this, in fact.

https://youtu.be/_gEpQW8myBM

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (Wnv9h)

284 The country is fighting off another, larger invading country. And they are escalating the invasion.

It's clear Ukraine means something entirely different to our globalist masters than it does to either its citizens or ours. I'm just surprised none of them have let slip what that is.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (ZGrMX)

285 265 Biden is set to announce a $36 billion bailout for the Central States Pension Fund – one of the nation’s biggest multi-employer plans.

//

just $35B? that's like one month of Ukraine war

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:49 PM (MLrvz)

286 I think that Rush became a lot more cautious about what he said after he backed down in the Sandra Fluke kerfuffle. I thought he should have stuck to his guns. His surrender on that seemed to take a certain of the wind out of his sails, and the fire out of his belly.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2022 01:49 PM (fWMRJ)

287 Biden just traded the guy that inspired “Lord of War” for Brittney Griner, who didn’t even make the cut for “Space Jam 2”

pretty good shit there

Posted by: REDACTED at December 08, 2022 01:49 PM (us2H3)

288 >
Exactly. I did not vote in November and it felt good. Granted, neither of my senators were up, the House incumbent was a lock, yadda, yadda, so it was a low cost thing to do. And both of my senators, who seem not to be cucks, elected McConnell again as leader and my MoC is solidly in McCarthy's camp. Staying home will be even easier come 2024.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (kJLpK)

I did vote. I had the choice of voting for a gubernatorial candidate who likes to cosplay as a Confederate soldier and a carpetbagging TV charlatan. The PA GOP could fuck up a one car funeral.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 08, 2022 01:49 PM (NgqoH)

289 (LOL, I pluralized that just to be a prick and annoy people.)

The Académie française will certainly not be pleased by this conjugation error.

Posted by: Sjg at December 08, 2022 01:49 PM (gDSJf)

290 256 I remain indifferent as to whether Ukraine is run by Ukrainian gangsters or Russian gangsters. I just want us out of it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (yQpMk)

US gangsters perhaps.

Posted by: Golfman at December 08, 2022 01:49 PM (Tjnq+)

291 In fact, the Ukes are doing quite well. At least they have proper winter kit for their soldiers.

So when is the Great Ukrainian Winter Offensive Starting?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2022 01:50 PM (KCOCK)

292 One thing that gets forgotten here, is McCarthy was leader in 2020, when we won 12 house seats against all odds. We were supposed to lose 15 to 20. I think would Dave would agree with that.

That makes 22 in two years. Not great, but enough
Posted by: Jonah

The 2020 results were marred by fraud and primarily due not to McCarthy but Trump as maligned as he was. Gaining 11 million votes from 2016 is unprecedented increase of turnout and no one is seriously suggesting that McCarthy and McConnell did that for GOP candidates.
Posted by: whig at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (bDjBG)
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These two facts alone would -- which pale in comparison to the others -- would lead when to conclude that the presidency was stolen from soft coup was finally successful & Junta installed to overthrow Trump.

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 08, 2022 01:50 PM (CVM2N)

293 So much stupidity here.
Posted by: Blue Hen

I think the attacks deep into Russia are mostly intended to keep Russian air defense in place and not moved to the front. That's a good strategy even if they don't hit anything.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2022 01:50 PM (gfbgX)

294 I thought Duarte won the Cal 13 Dave
Posted by: Jonah
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Barely, and only because hispanics in Merced didn't turn out to vote for Gray. That won't happen in 2024, that seat will be Dem. McCarthy seriously fucked over David Gilio (sp?) in the primary, who had already secured the endorsement of the hispanic community in the district. Gilio would have won the district by a safe 3 or 4 points and been able to hold it for years.

Rhomboid - Combination of things, he tried to fuck over Kent in the primary and ended up losing the seat as a result. In MI-3 he forced Gibbs to fire his entire campaign staff before he would give any money, and didn't give a dime for a month after the primary. Then his hand picked staff for Gibbs screwed up royally.

Those are three of the top of my head, but I can go on. VA-7, MD-6, more if I think on it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 08, 2022 01:50 PM (5p7BC)

295 Trump lost 35 house seats in 2018, and then won 12 in 2020

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:50 PM (gwrBY)

296 272 I remain indifferent as to whether Ukraine is run by Ukrainian gangsters or Russian gangsters. I just want us out of it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (yQpMk)
.........

Go long on men's track suits.
---------------
That and those elf shoes with pointy toes. No idea how they climb stairs.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2022 01:50 PM (ifUkZ)

297 “On a personal note, Brittney is an important role model, an inspiration to millions of Americans particularly the LGBTQI+ Americans and women of color."

Biden needed Griner to put the lbgtq star atop the WH Christmas tree?

Posted by: Rex B at December 08, 2022 01:50 PM (zpJdl)

298 284 The country is fighting off another, larger invading country. And they are escalating the invasion.

It's clear Ukraine means something entirely different to our globalist masters than it does to either its citizens or ours. I'm just surprised none of them have let slip what that is.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (ZGrMX)

Search up "world island geopolitics"

Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:50 PM (1ais2)

299 If freedom caucus holds out and Dems actually help McCarthy across the line, he'll be owned by the Dems, well more than usual anyway. I'm a fan of letting stuff crash but having the GOPe complicit doesn't help the conservative cause, simply because there are not enough conservatives. Let the Dems cause all the crashes then clean up the mess

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 08, 2022 01:50 PM (mP+mW)

300 I think Gaetz would agree with you but what he's saying is McCarthy is not the right guy for the job at this point in our fight. Same argument many use for Trump who otherwise might not support him.

Posted by: polynikes


Good point, although I wouldn't give McCarthy the credit for anything. He's zelig.

I don't know is that was an excerpt from Gaetz, but in the even not, he left out McCarthy making the vote re Cheney's leadership role private. That was a real f*** you moment, too.

Yup. That was a pivotal moment, and he utterly failed the test.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2022 01:51 PM (eOEVl)

301 Does she have to speak? A Speaker with a ball gag might work here.

********************

You need it, after all one loses the desire to boink big titty-juicy booty when she looks like a braying donkey every time she opens her mouth

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger Who We Do Not Speak Of at December 08, 2022 01:51 PM (VTu1l)

302 In fact, the Ukes are doing quite well. At least they have proper winter kit for their soldiers.

So when is the Great Ukrainian Winter Offensive Starting?
Posted by: The ARC of History!

You would consider them to be nasty for 'escalating the invasion'.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2022 01:51 PM (5Al3g)

303 Vanguard Group Inc. is walking out of the world’s largest climate-finance alliance, marking the coalition’s biggest defection to date as US Republicans step up their threats against firms deemed hostile toward the fossil-fuel industry.

Vanguard’s decision followed a “considerable period of review,” according to a company statement Wednesday. Withdrawing from the Net Zero Asset Managers initiative, which is a sub-unit of the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero, “will help provide the clarity our investors desire” about everything from the role of index funds, to financial risks in the context of climate change, the firm said.

Closely held Vanguard did not make executives available for comment. But its statement addresses a criticism from some investors and U.S. Republican officials that efforts like NZAM go against antitrust rules. That concern that had already led NZAM’s U.N.-affiliated parent to soften a policy on fossil fuel financing.

Posted by: SMOD at December 08, 2022 01:51 PM (RHGPo)

304 Former Israeli Ambassador to the U.N. Danny Danon told Breitbart News on Thursday a peace deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia would likely be signed within a year.

Posted by: SMOD at December 08, 2022 01:38 PM (RHGPo)

That god-damned Trump! Is there anything he can't fuck up?

Posted by: Jew-Hating Democrats at December 08, 2022 01:51 PM (XIJ/X)

305 The 2020 results were marred by fraud and primarily due not to McCarthy but Trump as maligned as he was. Gaining 11 million votes from 2016 is unprecedented increase of turnout and no one is seriously suggesting that McCarthy and McConnell did that for GOP candidates.
Posted by: whig at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (bDjBG)

I rate this as very fucking true

Posted by: REDACTED at December 08, 2022 01:51 PM (us2H3)

306 I remain indifferent as to whether Ukraine is run by Ukrainian gangsters or Russian gangsters. I just want us out of it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (yQpMk)

It certainly won't matter which, once the Nooks start flying.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2022 01:51 PM (YV6PJ)

307 256 I remain indifferent as to whether Ukraine is run by Ukrainian gangsters or Russian gangsters. I just want us out of it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (yQpMk)

US gangsters perhaps.
Posted by: Golfman at December 08, 2022 01:49 PM (Tjnq+)
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tanned, rested, and ready!

Posted by: Jim, Hunter, and the Big Guy at December 08, 2022 01:51 PM (8jGbt)

308 McCarthy didn't win those 12 seats in 2020, Trump did.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 08, 2022 01:51 PM (5p7BC)

309 295 Trump lost 35 house seats in 2018, and then won 12 in 2020
Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:50 PM (gwrBY)

And that was "helped" in 2018 by a bunch of Rep retirements (60, IIRC?).

Posted by: Thrawn at December 08, 2022 01:52 PM (Rl7KJ)

310 256 I remain indifferent as to whether Ukraine is run by Ukrainian gangsters or Russian gangsters. I just want us out of it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 08, 2022 01:45 PM (yQpMk)

US gangsters perhaps.
Posted by: Golfman at December 08, 2022 01:49 PM (Tjnq+)
.......

The Mexicans?

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 01:52 PM (v0R5T)

311 294. Thanks Dave. Kent was bad. Chabot in Ohio also

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:52 PM (gwrBY)

312 They also found that ESG funds have violated more labor and environmental laws than non-ESG firms.

Posted by: SMOD at December 08, 2022 01:52 PM (RHGPo)

313 McCarthy did give the middle finger to Pelosi when he pulled the GOP support for the Jan. 6 committee...

Posted by: A person afraid of the LGBTQ lobby at December 08, 2022 01:52 PM (5DTn7)

314 https://youtu.be/_gEpQW8myBM
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2022 01:48 PM (Wnv9h)

Lol, I'll have to watch it with the sound on when I'm not in the office.

Posted by: Mishdog at December 08, 2022 01:52 PM (91Pn5)

315 I see no advantage in getting along with my enemies.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 08, 2022 01:52 PM (qVln6)

316
Well. we are morons after all.

Why isn't it clear to you that humiliation is the kink and time to climb on the short bus and enjoy it?

Posted by: Auspex at December 08, 2022 01:52 PM (j4U/Z)

317 309. Good point, and Paul Ryan is a POS

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:53 PM (gwrBY)

318 287 Biden just traded the guy that inspired “Lord of War” for Brittney Griner, who didn’t even make the cut for “Space Jam 2”

pretty good shit there
Posted by: REDACTED at December 08, 2022 01:49 PM (us2H3)

"Juwanna Mann" was right there.

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2022 01:53 PM (UnA8+)

319 You would consider them to be nasty for 'escalating the invasion'.

Attacking the Russian strategic nuclear bomber bases was enough of an escalation that we had to release a statement publicly saying that we had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2022 01:53 PM (KCOCK)

320 just $35B? that's like one month of Ukraine war

***************

One week, you forgot to adjust for inflation

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger Who We Do Not Speak Of at December 08, 2022 01:53 PM (VTu1l)

321 275 In fact, the Ukes are doing quite well. At least they have proper winter kit for their soldiers.

when i was in france ukraine with the army
one day i looked into my kit
i thought i would find me a sandwich snowball
but the darn thing was loaded with
shaving cream
be nice and clean
shave every day and you'll always look keen

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at December 08, 2022 01:53 PM (v3pYe)

322 I remain indifferent as to whether Ukraine is run by Ukrainian gangsters or Russian gangsters. I just want us out of it.

If someone in Uke wants to send all the financial records to Matt Taibbi that'd be great too. Ideally before they get nuked.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2022 01:53 PM (ZGrMX)

323 So much stupidity here.
Posted by: Blue Hen

I think the attacks deep into Russia are mostly intended to keep Russian air defense in place and not moved to the front. That's a good strategy even if they don't hit anything.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest

Makes sense. And they are clearly military targets, so even an errent launch isn't likely to cause civilian casualties.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2022 01:53 PM (5Al3g)

324 Yellowstone and the Biden administration have the same script writers. The drama never stops.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 08, 2022 01:54 PM (7AOc2)

325 HEEE-HAAW HEEE-HAAW

Posted by: Speaker AOC at December 08, 2022 01:54 PM (v0R5T)

326 McCarthy also told pencil neck, Salewell, and Burka girl they were off the intel committee

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:54 PM (gwrBY)

327 I'm okay with having the Democrats help McCarthy become Speaker. It will crystalize what McCarthy and the GOPe is. I hope MTG doesn't help him. But oh well. Let the chips fall.
McCarthy knows the score. This is either about Him Or America.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2022 01:54 PM (aGlce)

328 I think the attacks deep into Russia are mostly intended to keep Russian air defense in place and not moved to the front. That's a good strategy even if they don't hit anything.

Correct. The airbases they hit are the ones from which the Russians operate bombers which launch the ALCMs they're using to destroy civilian infrastructure.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2022 01:54 PM (eOEVl)

329 308 McCarthy didn't win those 12 seats in 2020, Trump did.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 08, 2022 01:51 PM (5p7BC)

if you and whig are going to be totally factual

you're going to ruin the AOS

Posted by: REDACTED at December 08, 2022 01:54 PM (us2H3)

330 Makes sense. And they are clearly military targets, so even an errent launch isn't likely to cause civilian casualties.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2022 01:53 PM (5Al3g)



*Poland has entered the chat*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 08, 2022 01:54 PM (yQpMk)

331 Always confused McCarthy with McCauliff.

Posted by: Braenyard's phone at December 08, 2022 01:55 PM (idLdf)

332 274 Yes Whig, But he was leader in 2020. You cannot deny that. No doubt Trump on the ticket helped, does well on house seats. Senate. Meh
Posted by: Jonah

McCarthy did little if nothing other than raise money and play dead for Pelosi. He is quite literally a corporate Republican that is out of step with the majority of his caucus. If you care to remember, McCarthy stepped aside for Ryan after Boehner had a crying jag because of a vacate the chair motion. He stepped aside allegedly because he had an inappropriate relationship with Renee Ellmers, a GOP member from NC (now out of office). He lives with a living breathing influence peddler that is a) a person expelled for bad ethics in survey research, b) hates conservatives, and c) sells himself out to corporate cash to keep his palatial residences. McCarthy is a living breathing Ethics Committee violation and as part of the Gang of 8, has quite literally rolled over and played dead for the intel community.

I don't believe in rewarding people for just being there and this GOP idea of promoting losers just because they are next in line or some shit.

Posted by: whig at December 08, 2022 01:55 PM (bDjBG)

333 On a personal note, Brittney is an important role model, an inspiration to millions of Americans particularly the LGBTQI+ Americans and women of color."

***

If you were to round up every "woman of color" who watches the WNBA, you couldn't get to a four digit number.

Posted by: Azathoth at December 08, 2022 01:55 PM (wb1YC)

334 275 In fact, the Ukes are doing quite well. At least they have proper winter kit for their soldiers.
.......

Plus they learned to do Tik Tok dancing to stay warm.

Posted by: Speaker AOC at December 08, 2022 01:55 PM (v0R5T)

335 323. Wait until the snow falls in Ukraine. Then access

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:55 PM (gwrBY)

336 oops donkey sock off

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 01:55 PM (v0R5T)

337 You would consider them to be nasty for 'escalating the invasion'.

Attacking the Russian strategic nuclear bomber bases was enough of an escalation that we had to release a statement publicly saying that we had nothing to do with it.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

OMG Delaware's Own Joe Biden released something other than a turd.

Will Ukrainian escalation never cease!?!

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2022 01:55 PM (5Al3g)

338 227 On a personal note, Brittney is an important role model

you know who else is an important roll model?

Posted by: the kaiser, model of rolls at December 08, 2022 01:56 PM (v3pYe)

339 I see no advantage in getting along with my enemies.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 08, 2022 01:52 PM (qVln6)

--------

They interpret our kindness as weakness, which further emboldens them in their sociopathic cruelty.

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 08, 2022 01:56 PM (9WaV6)

340 Levin lost me when he was campaigning for Lindsay Graham who he used to call "Goober Graham" all the time.

Posted by: Fed Up at December 08, 2022 01:56 PM (uZn/X)

341 338 you know who else is an important roll model?
Posted by: the kaiser, model of rolls at December 08, 2022 01:56 PM (v3pYe)

Ach du Lieber!

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2022 01:56 PM (UnA8+)

342 Biden is set to announce a $36 billion bailout for the Central States Pension Fund – one of the nation’s biggest multi-employer plans.
Posted by: SMOD
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Out of which appropriation?

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 08, 2022 01:57 PM (5p7BC)

343 Trump won the seats in 2018. Ok, but did he lose them in 2018?

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:57 PM (gwrBY)

344 Rush had to deal with hearing loss, painkiller addiction (which the left gloated about - using the same bad-faith sanctimony they would use when swaths of middle America got hooked on the same drugs - and yet he beat the addiction) and finally cancer, on top of the MSM trying to destroy him on a near-weekly basis. I can’t bring myself to say “oh, he didn’t do enough”. I just can’t.

Posted by: Ponsonby Britt IV, O.B.E., heir to the Bullwinkle fortune at December 08, 2022 01:57 PM (7kSOl)

345 hen the GOP vote will be fractured and there's a good chance the Dums will align with the usual GOP sell-outs and elect a "moderate" who will really be a Dumocrap.

***********************

I get it but I'm also tired of the "this is not the hill to die on" argument.

Burn it down

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger Who We Do Not Speak Of at December 08, 2022 01:57 PM (VTu1l)

346 19 Mark Levin has really lost me lately.
He supports McCarthy AND the war in Ukraine.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2022 01:09 PM (jTmQV)

So he's "Rootin for Putin" like old JJ?
Must be, since Putin's the only one who has any choice in the war.

Posted by: Word to your mother at December 08, 2022 01:57 PM (X/BMQ)

347 Rush had to deal with hearing loss, painkiller addiction (which the left gloated about - using the same bad-faith sanctimony they would use when swaths of middle America got hooked on the same drugs - and yet he beat the addiction) and finally cancer, on top of the MSM trying to destroy him on a near-weekly basis. I can’t bring myself to say “oh, he didn’t do enough”. I just can’t.

Same. He set the example, and too few followed.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2022 01:57 PM (ZGrMX)

348 339 They interpret our kindness as weakness, which further emboldens them in their sociopathic cruelty.
Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 08, 2022 01:56 PM (9WaV6)

Why aren't we better at cruelty than they are?

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2022 01:57 PM (UnA8+)

349 325 HEEE-HAAW HEEE-HAAW
Posted by: Speaker AOC


pickin' and grinnin'

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at December 08, 2022 01:58 PM (v3pYe)

350 Dems are Godless. GOPe never gets that

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:58 PM (gwrBY)

351 I think the attacks deep into Russia are mostly intended to keep Russian air defense in place and not moved to the front. That's a good strategy even if they don't hit anything.

Correct. The airbases they hit are the ones from which the Russians operate bombers which launch the ALCMs they're using to destroy civilian infrastructure.
Posted by: Archimedes

Did not know that.

But that would mean that the escalation was initiated by Russia, not Ukraine.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2022 01:58 PM (5Al3g)

352 Paul Whelan will be a sweetner in the impending Ukraine-Russia peace deal

Posted by: REDACTED at December 08, 2022 01:58 PM (us2H3)

353 Lol, I'll have to watch it with the sound on when I'm not in the office.
Posted by: Mishdog at December 08, 2022 01:52 PM


It's disturbing, yet funny. A good parody video.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 08, 2022 01:58 PM (Wnv9h)

354 At the end of the day, this is what the GOPe leadership wanted. To punish us.

well, fine. you showed us. Good luck with whatever it is you're trying to do.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:58 PM (MLrvz)

355
Mark Levin is really supporting McCarthy?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus


My late stepdad used to call Levin the "demented bullfrog" and rush to switch off the radio when his show started. Liked what he said, but hated to listen to his froggy voice.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 08, 2022 01:58 PM (n+4am)

356 DOJ press release on 2011 conviction of Viktor Bout
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Sure it's been said, but that sounds like an insurrectioist to me.

Posted by: ... at December 08, 2022 01:59 PM (fu3s0)

357 Why aren't we better at cruelty than they are?

They bought our leaders?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2022 01:59 PM (ESjRY)

358 When Levin is bought he stays bought.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 08, 2022 01:59 PM (pb6ET)

359 Make no mistake, the Russian government are scumbags and not our friends. But I think there is a lot of common ground Democrats have trampled with their antics.
_______

One thing that puzzles me, the Dems have to know the whole Russia stole 2016 was a Hilary/FBI/CIA op. So why is that an excuse to go after Russia? Deaths of thousands (100s of thousands through starvation if this keeps going) just to keep up appearances in front of the home audience of deranged Dem voters? It wasn't long ago that Obama was offering to be flexible on giving up American interests to Putin. Has to be something else driving Dem action.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 08, 2022 01:59 PM (fs1hN)

360 >>In fact, the Ukes are doing quite well.


This is hysterical.

Posted by: garrett at December 08, 2022 01:59 PM (jr/Q9)

361 212 Posted by: Thesokorus at December 08, 2022 01:35 PM (1ais2)

Not a big Rush fan ( really not a fan of any pundit) but it aggravates me when people accuse others of selling out as soon as they have a different opinion on things.
Posted by: polynikes at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (0om5x)

This is a good point and it's important to point out much of the rage is at changing a position and not explaining what circumstances led to a change. Many of the grifters do this as a result conservatives are very sensitive to this.

Posted by: Inogame, in the rear with the gear at December 08, 2022 01:59 PM (53oGX)

362 I have just folded space from Ken'tuki. Many new dams in Ken'tuki.
Posted by: Guild Navigator Mitch McConnell

The mental image and comparison....it works.
Guild navigator McConnell then continues,"I see plans within plans. If you guys are screwing over Duke MAGA, the Guild wants a taste of the action, too!"

Posted by: Skeptical Schnauzer at December 08, 2022 01:59 PM (h+7ej)

363 >>> 211 It's cute that some of you still think "candidate quality (as defined by the commie-whore press)" is still a thing.

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I had no idea candidate quality mattered until it apparently made us lose every race that mattered (in places with ballot harvesting and open air ballot boxes) during a red wave election.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 01:39 PM (MLrvz)

Yeah, *that's* what did it.

Go back to sleep.

The crickets are tasty, you'll love them.

Posted by: Massive Fcking Election Fraud at December 08, 2022 02:00 PM (llON8)

364 Didn't Zelensky want to the West preemptively nuke Russia? Couple months ago?


Posted by: DOYLE at December 08, 2022 02:00 PM (Z8Yh2)

365 Is Tom Delay still alive?

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 02:00 PM (gwrBY)

366 Everyone is exactly right about how unimportant Ukraine is to the US. Why should we care which thugs are in charge?

And we also need a strong Russia to keep China and Islam from spreading into that territory - and they are bigger global threats.

But. IMHO Russia has been the source of division all over the civilized world for decades. As bad as our other problems, we can not afford Russia to dominate energy and grain in Europe, and continue its influence operations. They are big funders for the anti-gmo and anti-fracking movements in Europe for a reason.

The smart move would have been to prevent the war, but now I don't think it is smart to let Russia win. Unfortunately. This is our war only because we (the West) can not afford to have Russia and Germany push the US and UK out of Europe since then it will only feed power to those bigger enemies. And remember, all this woke shit always starts in Europe and then comes here. Russia and Germany in control of Europe will only feed that deviancy since both want to see the West destroyed.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2022 02:00 PM (gfbgX)

367 if you and whig are going to be totally factual

you're going to ruin the AOS
Posted by: REDACTED

I get irate when people use talking points from their favorite media source instead of actually trying to grapple with complicated situations.

Corporate America wants McCarthy along with GOP whale donors and its handmaiden Conservative Media TM. That is enough to condemn him. But what is really going on here is that McCarthy is literally a weak leader so the progressive GOP members want him because he will give them cover to vote with the Dems, those on the right will allow him to take office but only if he shuts the progressive GOP surrender caucus down from voting with Dems on their favorite issues or risks being deposed in office for allowing that to happen.

That is what is going on in DC. Sort of like War of the Roses and it would not happen if McCarthy was a strong leader in the first place.

Posted by: whig at December 08, 2022 02:00 PM (bDjBG)

368 357 Why aren't we better at cruelty than they are?

They bought our leaders?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2022 01:59 PM (ESjRY)

I mean, where are some Horde-level "Fuck You. WAR." hardliners actually running for office to make them all fall in line?

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2022 02:01 PM (UnA8+)

369 On a personal note, Brittney is an important role model

Oh wait, so she isn't a self-important, poorly-educated, overly-tattooed, mentally ill, drug criminal who can barely string a sentence together, she is a "role model" for the White House Press Secretary!

Houston, we have a problem.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2022 02:01 PM (OfDbA)

370 Zalensky wants to thank the West for his new Villa in Nice, and his fat bank account in Zurich

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 02:01 PM (gwrBY)

371 What I don’t understand is why Trump is being so silent on all the issues

If he wants to be our leader, he needs to lead

Posted by: Gonzotx at December 08, 2022 02:01 PM (t4poC)

372 The Mueller Inquisition was a dem sponsored black cloud to many voters in the run up to the 2018 election.

Posted by: Rex B at December 08, 2022 02:01 PM (zpJdl)

373 BREAKING House passes defense bill that rescinds military Covid vaccine mandate

CNN
https://tinyurl.com/yvt6v53y

Posted by: m at December 08, 2022 02:01 PM (RtN13)

374 Great board today. Adios

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 02:02 PM (gwrBY)

375 Didn't Zelensky want to the West preemptively nuke Russia? Couple months ago?


Posted by: DOYLE

He most certainly did. And still does, one can be sure. Its nice when we back a proxy to fart around with Russia, unwise beyond measure, that is a freaking psychopath.

Posted by: Skeptical Schnauzer at December 08, 2022 02:02 PM (h+7ej)

376 Kevin McCarthy is from Bakersfield. I think I'd rather have Dwight Yoakam.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2022 02:02 PM (v0R5T)

377 In my completely uninformed opinion I would think I'd want a party leader with a backbone and firm conservative, pro-American convictions. And someone who despises the media.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 08, 2022 02:02 PM (eGTCV)

378 McCarthy did little if nothing other than raise money and play dead for Pelosi. He is quite literally a corporate Republican that is out of step with the majority of his caucus. If you care to remember, McCarthy stepped aside for Ryan after Boehner had a crying jag because of a vacate the chair motion. He stepped aside allegedly because he had an inappropriate relationship with Renee Ellmers, a GOP member from NC (now out of office). He lives with a living breathing influence peddler that is a) a person expelled for bad ethics in survey research, b) hates conservatives, and c) sells himself out to corporate cash to keep his palatial residences. McCarthy is a living breathing Ethics Committee violation and as part of the Gang of 8, has quite literally rolled over and played dead for the intel community.

---------

Now, that's what I call a closing statement and summation.

/If whig is not a lawyer, he could play one on TV.

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 08, 2022 02:02 PM (9WaV6)

379 "Following passage in the House, the measure will next need to go to the Senate to be approved before it can be sent to President Joe Biden to be signed into law."

Posted by: m at December 08, 2022 02:02 PM (RtN13)

380 369 On a personal note, Brittney is an important role model

Oh wait, so she isn't a self-important, poorly-educated, overly-tattooed, mentally ill, drug criminal who can barely string a sentence together, she is a "role model" for the White House Press Secretary!

Houston, we have a problem.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2022 02:01 PM (OfDbA)


the balls on her

Posted by: REDACTED at December 08, 2022 02:03 PM (us2H3)

381 NOODLUM

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 08, 2022 02:03 PM (MkuC5)

382 365 Is Tom Delay still alive?
Posted by: Jonah
-------------------------

Problem is, he no longer has a grip (literally) on their hearts.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 08, 2022 02:03 PM (gfCY0)

383 World Human rights commission ranks Kiev as the Human trafficking capital of the world.

WTF

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2022 01:34 PM (gwrBY)

Fuck and all this time I assumed it was just about cash. Should've known.

Posted by: ... at December 08, 2022 02:03 PM (fu3s0)

384 "In a statement Tuesday night, House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy said, “the end of President Biden’s military COVID vaccine mandate is a victory for our military and for common sense.”"

Posted by: m at December 08, 2022 02:03 PM (RtN13)

385 Why aren't we better at cruelty than they are?


They control the courts.

Because I could make Vlad Tepes blush.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 08, 2022 02:03 PM (gKNhs)

386 Attacking the Russian strategic nuclear bomber bases was enough of an escalation that we had to release a statement publicly saying that we had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2022 01:53 PM (KCOCK)

How the fuck does a country "escalate" when they were the ones invaded?

Stop being a cheerleader for Putin.

It's fine not giving a shit. It's fine to hope for casualties on both sides. But being an avid supporter of Russia is totalitarian-cock-sucking nonsense.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 08, 2022 02:03 PM (XIJ/X)

387 "McCarthy for Speaker, and no one goes to jail. Deal?"

DNC HQ to RNC HQ

Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 08, 2022 02:03 PM (CKQ4I)

388 No, Trump didn't lose the seats in 2018, other than being a first term incumbent which is always a drag on the midterm.

That was a case of Ryan losing the seats because they kept dicking around on healthcare, which was the top priority for the voters. Couple that with the McCain sellout, and there you go.

Democrats also rolled out their new ballot harvesting machine and used it to flip 5 seats in California weeks after those Reps were already in DC.

Trump personally saved 3 Senate seats and was directly responsible for DeSantis win.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 08, 2022 02:04 PM (5p7BC)

389 Rush had to deal with hearing loss, painkiller addiction (which the left gloated about - using the same bad-faith sanctimony they would use when swaths of middle America got hooked on the same drugs - and yet he beat the addiction) and finally cancer, on top of the MSM trying to destroy him on a near-weekly basis. I can’t bring myself to say “oh, he didn’t do enough”. I just can’t.

Same. He set the example, and too few followed.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2022 01:57 PM (ZGrMX)

Ace, JJ, and the other COBs did. And I'm thankful.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2022 02:04 PM (BdMk6)

390 Didn't Zelensky want to the West preemptively nuke Russia? Couple months ago?

Posted by: DOYLE at December 08, 2022 02:00 PM (Z8Yh2)

Team Biden has its hand up Zelensky's arse, so whatever words he says, it's basically official American policy.

But yes. Yes he did. When his soldiers who couldn't bit the broadside of Russia bombed Poland, he said it was time to get more Nooks in the mix.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2022 02:04 PM (YV6PJ)

391 What I don’t understand is why Trump is being so silent on all the issues

*****************

I was going to suggest the same but checked his feed and he is currently ripping the WNBA tranny exchange

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger Who We Do Not Speak Of at December 08, 2022 02:04 PM (VTu1l)

392 ewww the nood is

The Dean of Students at Chicago's Super-Pricey Francis W. Parker School Brags About Teaching Minors About "Queer Sex," Handing Out Dildos to Them So They Can "Play" With The Sextoys
—Ace

Posted by: m at December 08, 2022 02:04 PM (RtN13)

393 >>> 379 "Following passage in the House, the measure will next need to go to the Senate to be approved before it can be sent to President Joe Biden to be signed into law."
Posted by: m at December 08, 2022 02:02 PM (RtN13)

Gosh, it's too bad the GOPe had a bunch of poor-quality candidates, otherwise they might have a Senate majority.

Posted by: Massive Fcking Election Fraud at December 08, 2022 02:04 PM (llON8)

394 appparently...the Greiner deal gets better and better. Biden used the Saudis to do the deal, so to get the Saudi's on board, they dropped their bitching about the great martyr Kashshogihi

which means...everything about Saudis was also bullshit.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 02:05 PM (MLrvz)

395 Posted by: Inogame, in the rear with the gear at December 08, 2022 01:59 PM (53oGX)

Don't disagree with this at all. And to be clear I'm not saying pundits don't sell out. I'm saying a difference of opinion ( not a change) should not be the sole basis to accuse someone of selling out. But I do agree that a 180 on a position is suspicious.

Posted by: polynikes at December 08, 2022 02:05 PM (0om5x)

396 350 Dems are Godless. GOPe never gets that
Posted by: Jonah

GOPe does because they run in the same social class and attend the same schools and share the same socially liberal views on society. The only difference is that GOPe is greedy for money and dislike taxation and regulation that affects their investments, not that they care about their erstwhile constituents. GOPe's true constituents are the donor class of the GOP which is both socially liberal and tax hating but borrowing friendly. Average GOP voters are not and cannot be members of that club.

Posted by: whig at December 08, 2022 02:05 PM (bDjBG)

397 >>> Fuck and all this time I assumed it was just about cash. Should've known.
Posted by: ... at
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They are probably counting people who will do anything to get away from the war.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 08, 2022 02:06 PM (gfCY0)

398 How can we be more cruel than them? Force people to watch the WNBA

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 08, 2022 02:06 PM (mP+mW)

399 McCarthy is a living breathing Ethics Committee violation and as part of the Gang of 8, has quite literally rolled over and played dead for the intel community.


Who's a good boy? Yes, who's the best boy?
*Rubs McCarthy's belly. McCarthy licks his ass.*

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2022 02:07 PM (eOEVl)

400 394 appparently...the Greiner deal gets better and better. Biden used the Saudis to do the deal, so to get the Saudi's on board, they dropped their bitching about the great martyr Kashshogihi

which means...everything about Saudis was also bullshit.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 08, 2022 02:05 PM (MLrvz)
---------------------------------

Would like to see results of DNA test.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 08, 2022 02:09 PM (gfCY0)

401 Semafor took bribes from FreakyFraudsterBankmanFried so assume they are corrupt and dirty. Gaetz was investigated by the FBI then miraculously one day it was gone. Also assume that Matt Gaetz is working for the Fascist FBI. What else could explain Matt Gaetz leading a movement to turn the House of Representatives over to the Marxist Hakeem Jeffries.

Posted by: william ferrin at December 08, 2022 02:10 PM (81F6U)

402 370 Zalensky wants to thank the West for his new Villa in Nice, and his fat bank account in Zurich
Posted by: Jonah
------------------------

Zalensky's fucked and he knows it.
Remember him denying Biden's exit plane?
Today, look in his eyes - dead man walking.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 08, 2022 02:11 PM (gfCY0)

403 Stop being a cheerleader for Putin.

I hope that Putin is removed from office in an orderly fashion after a negotiated settlement, and replaced with someone better.

It's fine not giving a shit. It's fine to hope for casualties on both sides. But being an avid supporter of Russia is totalitarian-cock-sucking nonsense.

I merely observed that:

a) Currently, the Russians are winning and the Ukrainians are losing.

b) The Ukrainians know that they are losing, and are trying to escalate the war as a consequence.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2022 02:15 PM (KCOCK)

404 "faits accoplis"


You bastard ace!

Posted by: Eddie Spaghetti at December 08, 2022 02:17 PM (ECHKg)

405 Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2022 02:00 PM (gfbgX)

If the vast majority of Europe doesn't care about Russia manipulating Europe's agriculture and energy market to their own benefit, then we sure as hell shouldn't be concerned.

The soviet threat is long gone, we're now just getting played by western Europe by acting as their shield at our own cost. NATO should've ended decades ago when our allies were failing to meet their treaty commitments. Why should they ever even pretend to bother now that they see us funneling tens of billions (if not hundreds, since the Pentagon doesn't even know where it's money goes) to a defend a country that isn't even allied with us? Just put a bit of money in the right politicians' pockets and the reap the rewards.

Posted by: Sjg at December 08, 2022 02:20 PM (gDSJf)

406 AND the war in Ukraine.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2022 01:09 PM (jTmQV)

So does Prager because freedom is what we do or something something.

Posted by: Eddie Spaghetti at December 08, 2022 02:20 PM (ECHKg)

407 >>> They should be prepared to burn it all down politically, in an effort to get reforms, so that we, later, don't have to burn it all down, literally.

Tomato, tomahto

Posted by: fluffy, flickin' his Bic at December 08, 2022 02:20 PM (UqnOO)

408 elections mean nothing as long as we can't get rid of worms like McCarthy and McConnell

Posted by: Shoey77 at December 08, 2022 02:21 PM (fcWVN)

409 I merely observed that:

a) Currently, the Russians are winning and the Ukrainians are losing.

b) The Ukrainians know that they are losing, and are trying to escalate the war as a consequence.


And when I asked you to provide support for your assertion, you didn't. At all.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 08, 2022 02:30 PM (eOEVl)

410 I'm okay with having the Democrats help McCarthy become Speaker. It will crystalize what McCarthy and the GOPe is. I hope MTG doesn't help him. But oh well. Let the chips fall.
McCarthy knows the score. This is either about Him Or America.
Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2022 01:54 PM (aGlce)

Think your post is called a direct hit in the targeting bidness.
Let the Dems put the POS in.
McCarthy a greasy, spineless, two faced coward. .... except when it comes to The Freedom Caucus. McCarthy is hell on The Freedom Caucus.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at December 08, 2022 02:34 PM (wReBR)

411 I will be writing my Congresscritter to urge voting against him. He's been a stand-up Tea-Partier guy.

Posted by: Paladin at December 08, 2022 02:37 PM (GsJMP)

412 "408 elections mean nothing as long as we can't get rid of worms like McCarthy and McConnell"

There's no comparison between the two. McCarthy at least seems to not completely hate his base.

Posted by: Mountain Walker at December 08, 2022 03:44 PM (9fPs0)

413 Couldn't agree more with you, Ace!

Like that tune by Juice Newton goes - "Love's been a little bit hard on me."

How many times have when put our votes out there to support a party who simply is *not* going to do a damn thing to advance the cause?
And when we FINALLY get a guy into office who's under the Republican banner, what do they do? They feed him to the sharks and join in the frenzy.
I have nothing left but hatred seasoned with loathing for the G.O.P. McCarthy most certainly does not deserve to be in charge. I like Andy Biggs but really don't give a shit anymore.

My only hope is to see the Republican Party walk the plank before the ship sinks. If we are going down, I want to see them perish first.

Posted by: Tracy at December 08, 2022 04:44 PM (IPU2B)

414 Has anybody asked themselves why the FBI stopped prosecuting Matt Gaetz? Sure, everybody on this site knows that corrupt US Attorneys could have gotten a conviction if the case was prosecuted in DC. So what caused the Justice Department to drop the case in an election year? Has anybody noticed how quiet Gaetz has been for the last year? But now, all of sudden he pipes up and demands Hakeem Jeffries be voted Speaker so Fascist Democrats can add two states, mandate Federal elections, expand the Supreme Court, and send Republicans to the gulags. Ace is just speeding up the Fascist Democrat Dictatorship.

Posted by: william ferrin at December 08, 2022 05:05 PM (EfjUK)

415 F u c k i n g A

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