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Krysten Sinema, Thom Tillis Now Circulating a Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill for "Dreamers"

Gotta ram this through before the new Congress comes to town.

Supposedly, the deal is:

*Some form of path to citizenship for 2 million dreamers.

* A large boost in resources to speed up the processing of asylum seekers, including new processing centers and more asylum officers and judges.

* More resources to expedite the removal of migrants who don't qualify for asylum.

* A continuation of the Title 42 covid-health-rule restriction on migrants applying for asylum, until the new processing centers are operational, with the aim of a one-year cutoff.

* More funding for border officers.

The idea behind this compromise is this: It gives Democrats protections for 2 million dreamers and beefed up defenses of the due process rights of some migrants. It gives Republicans faster removal of migrants who fail to qualify for asylum to prevent them from remaining in the country, a continued restriction on applications for the next year and more border security.

Why shouldn't Title 42 be permanent?

As far as "more funding to expedite asylum cases:" if Title 42 (remain in Mexico) were permanent, this wouldn't be as necessary. Also, this is more Democrat smoke and mirrors; so, you're going to get the process reduced from nine years to, what, seven? And note, during this period, they're allowed to stay in the US -- and have children, who are automatically citizens, aka "anchor babies."

What about the absurd rules that get people asylum if they just tell the right lies? What about requiring actual proof of these claims?

And again, what about just making Remain in Mexico the rule going forward, permanently?

But whatever, I'm totally sure we'll get the benefit of the bargain on this, like we always do, on all of these amnesty plans.

Basically Biden just wants to extend Title 42 for another year because he's afraid the overrun border will hurt him politically.

But he wants the Republicans to give him something in return for something he himself needs.

And the Republicans are just stupid enough to give him something in return for nothing.


Posted by: Ace at 04:41 PM




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1 First

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2022 04:41 PM (UK2bo)

2 Lies, all lies. There are no rules or laws.

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2022 04:42 PM (UK2bo)

3 What is this opposition party you are speaking of?

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at December 05, 2022 04:42 PM (2rmiY)

4 If this were a TV show, I'd change the channel.

Too unbelievable.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2022 04:44 PM (krQz2)

5 are just stupid enough

Give them time and they'll be stupider.

Posted by: DaveA at December 05, 2022 04:45 PM (FhXTo)

6 How about they go back to their countries and apply for citizenship like everyone else? I prefer to expedite citizenship for those trying to do it the right way. Also, if you are from Afghanistan, the answer is prob nopity nope.

Posted by: Piper at December 05, 2022 04:46 PM (ZdaMQ)

7 And this will get worse.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 05, 2022 04:46 PM (G/v5P)

8 It could just be failure theatre as usual.

It's probably packed with so many poison pills and contradictions that no Congressman or Senator will vote for it...Especially as they start campaigning for 2024.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 05, 2022 04:46 PM (YIVH2)

9 DHS today:
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“[Germany] remains in a heightened threat environment.” It seems that “lone offenders and small groups motivated by a range of ideological beliefs and/or personal grievances continue to pose a persistent and lethal threat to the [Father]land.”
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Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2022 04:46 PM (krQz2)

10 I thought we were all black pilled now.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2022 04:46 PM (3hSHB)

11 corgis called

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 05, 2022 04:47 PM (Mkvkw)

12 Alternate title. "Republicans Rush to Pass Democrats Priorities Before They Start Pretending to Care About Voters and Do Nothing".

Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2022 04:47 PM (pIKd9)

13 No, this isn't a coup.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 05, 2022 04:47 PM (G/v5P)

14 I've been expecting some sort of deal. The gop establishment wants it to appease the donor class, and I suspect that they hope to undercut Trump by presenting amnesty as done, so that he can't run on immigration and border security again.

Posted by: Amnesty at December 05, 2022 04:47 PM (vzDVp)

15 If every incumbent was voted out, would anything change? Honest question.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at December 05, 2022 04:47 PM (2rmiY)

16 Wait! I have another idea! We will give expedited citizenship to illegals from Cuba. That is it. That is our deal. The rest need to go home and fill out their paperwork in triplicate. We will get back with them.

Posted by: Piper at December 05, 2022 04:47 PM (ZdaMQ)

17 No.

Not just no. But, Fuck No.

Deport every last illegal alien.
THAT you can spend my money on.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2022 04:47 PM (eo2rU)

18 Supertramp is so 70s.

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 04:47 PM (sn5EN)

19 It's probably packed with so many poison pills and contradictions that no Congressman or Senator will vote for it...Especially as they start campaigning for 2024.

And I bet it includes the rail-workers' paid sick leave in an amendment

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2022 04:48 PM (3hSHB)

20 NIP SIP. You suck.

Posted by: golfman at December 05, 2022 04:48 PM (BLVc0)

21 Damn it. Off, sock.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 05, 2022 04:48 PM (vzDVp)

22 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 05, 2022 04:49 PM (T4tVD)

23 Amnesty the Dreamers and everyone else. Let's get it on.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 05, 2022 04:49 PM (oWBc3)

24 And the Republicans are just stupid enough to give him something in return for nothing.

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ShainS' Law: "Never attribute to ignorance, stupidity, loyalty, and/or incompetence what can be ascribed to corruption and/or evil ... but mostly evil."

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 05, 2022 04:49 PM (YE2oq)

25 I don't see a problem with this.

Posted by: Dick Sipper at December 05, 2022 04:49 PM (krQz2)

26 The answer as always to anything proposed by the left is NO. Why is this so fucking hard? (That question is rhetorical)

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2022 04:51 PM (MGB5H)

27 Never thought I would say this, and I hate Putin, but I despise the Ukraine right now. McConnell is the peg boy for the Pentagon military complex

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 04:51 PM (Cw0fX)

28 26 The answer as always to anything proposed by the left is NO. Why is this so fucking hard? (That question is rhetorical)
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2022 04:51 PM (MGB5H)

Because nobody can make them afraid enough.

Posted by: XTC at December 05, 2022 04:51 PM (UnA8+)

29 And the Republicans are just stupid enough to give him something in return for nothing.

You people here are always mocking us, purporting that we say "That's not who we are."

Well, this is exactly who we are! Put that in your pipes and smoke it!

Posted by: GOPe at December 05, 2022 04:51 PM (a3Q+t)

30 Kick them all right in the vag

Posted by: They don't have any balls to kick, so... at December 05, 2022 04:52 PM (V6LRK)

31 Tom Tillis definitely has a wide stance.

Posted by: Larry Craig at December 05, 2022 04:52 PM (sWM8x)

32 Come on, everyone knew this would be the ultimate outcome of the "dreamer" program. This is not a shock at least to me.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2022 04:52 PM (uNylN)

33 I'm gonna offer my own bill for Republicans to sponsor. It's called "The if You crossed to Border Illegally We Will Cut Off All Your Taxpayer Funded Handouts, and Kick Your Ass Back Across the Border to Get in Line" Act.

The working title is "BOHICA Mexico, You Duplicitous Motherfuckers".

Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2022 04:52 PM (pIKd9)

34 Ear wax, toe brushin', pimple poppin'! Dey too much hi-gene goin' on 'round hea.

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 04:52 PM (sn5EN)

35 Hey! We got a reduction in amnesty! They wanted 2.2 million, we got them down to 2. A 10% decrease!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 05, 2022 04:52 PM (t3/qz)

36 Wow. Busy dealing with, literally, on a personal level, absurd pernicious nonsense that is entirely the product of national decline that is the general topic today. (and I wrote this *before* this post went up)

The despicable damage to America of the GOP simply keeps piling up.

The elected leader of the Senate GOP caucus is as toxic to the country's well-being as any of the stupid, corrupt, alien, totalitarian, racist Dems. And GOP voters clearly are incapable of fixing things.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2022 04:52 PM (OTzUX)

37 "But he wants the Republicans to give him something in return for something he himself needs.
And the Republicans are just stupid enough to give him something in return for nothing."

Alternative option... the Republicans want that Chamber of Commerce money back and amnesty is the path?

Posted by: Inogame, in the rear with the gear at December 05, 2022 04:53 PM (53oGX)

38 Tillis... isn't that the country guy what's got the stutter?

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 05, 2022 04:53 PM (flINI)

39 Sure. Sure. Whatever, fuckers.

"When I was young, I thought that life was so wonderful...."

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 05, 2022 04:53 PM (V6f9+)

40 Please buy my new book extolling the evils of capitalism, now available on Amazon!

Posted by: Greta at December 05, 2022 04:53 PM (a3Q+t)

41 It's premature to criticize this legislation. You have to pass it to find out what's in it.

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at December 05, 2022 04:53 PM (CkFy6)

42 Why bother winning the House. Fuckin Traitors. I agree with Ace. Spent so much time worrying about elections, and the GOP screws the conservative voters in a lame duck. F them all

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 04:53 PM (Cw0fX)

43 of course some smarmy cocksucker named Thom is involved. have to give cover.

even money Sinema decided to let him sniff her empty boots for 30 seconds to get him to go along...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 05, 2022 04:53 PM (Mkvkw)

44 Yeah. Judges. Processing centers. Sure.

Posted by: Holy Crap at December 05, 2022 04:53 PM (glGDV)

45 Why don't the dems ever request to increase the annual immigration quotas? Open it up to 10 million/yr? They act like adding more immigrants legally is totally impossible.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 05, 2022 04:53 PM (t3/qz)

46 They're gonna pass this in the next two weeks? Good luck.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 05, 2022 04:54 PM (Qy7kP)

47 Word of the day: Nacho
"This is nacho country anymore!"

Posted by: Fool Otto at December 05, 2022 04:54 PM (DB16e)

48 Also, add voter registration and a mail in ballot request to the amnesty form.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 05, 2022 04:54 PM (t3/qz)

49 36 The elected leader of the Senate GOP caucus is as toxic to the country's well-being as any of the stupid, corrupt, alien, totalitarian, racist Dems. And GOP voters clearly are incapable of fixing things.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2022 04:52 PM (OTzUX)

Mitch has his money, Mitch has his good life.

What can anyone do to make Mitch fear that they can take his hundreds of millions and his mansions away?

Posted by: XTC at December 05, 2022 04:54 PM (UnA8+)

50 Yeah. And Zulu as Kono. Aloha!

Posted by: Holy Crap at December 05, 2022 04:55 PM (glGDV)

51 And the illegals will be pouring in by the millions

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2022 04:55 PM (xhxe8)

52 Trust us, we will only send them a ballot once they are citizens!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 05, 2022 04:55 PM (t3/qz)

53 I just love how the eGOP/MSM were going on about how Krysten Sinema might be a closet conservative.
That wasn't the closet she uses...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 05, 2022 04:55 PM (ES7IQ)

54 So over the last few years we found out how little a vice president and his entire family can be purchased for. Then we find out the entire Republican establishment can be bought for virtually nothing.

Posted by: Rock Doc at December 05, 2022 04:55 PM (6I0gt)

55 I thought we were all black pilled now.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2022 04:46 PM (3hSHB)

---------

It comes in a slow, time-release capsule, and isn't fully effective until all of your mind's defenses have been destroyed ... which could take a long time for some of us.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 05, 2022 04:55 PM (YE2oq)

56 They can't at least get something in there to make Martha's Vineyard a permanent sanctuary site and holding center for illegals?

Posted by: Wally at December 05, 2022 04:55 PM (FJYfm)

57 53 I just love how the eGOP/MSM were going on about how Krysten Sinema might be a closet conservative.
That wasn't the closet she uses...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 05, 2022 04:55 PM (ES7IQ)

She's not a closet conservative. She's a closet GOPer, though.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 05, 2022 04:56 PM (KbCG3)

58 Why bother winning the House. Fuckin Traitors. I agree with Ace. Spent so much time worrying about elections, and the GOP screws the conservative voters in a lame duck. F them all
Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 04:53 PM (Cw0fX)

at this point, i'mma vote for trump or desantis in '24, and my local congess gal, provided she don't fuck up like this, and that's it on a national level.

not worth even expending the energy for more than that.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 05, 2022 04:56 PM (Mkvkw)

59 Almost to the point where Trump runs third party, and Perot's all these MFer GOPe bastards in House and Senate seats

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 04:56 PM (Cw0fX)

60

How about Miami Republican Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar's Dignity Act?

https://tinyurl.com/mvkmcsxn

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2022 04:56 PM (63Dwl)

61 Once again proving there is no use in voting Republican.

Tillis go nothing in this deal because the illegal aliens aren't even showing up to court. They get in, have to be released, and then that is it.

Posted by: Thatch at December 05, 2022 04:56 PM (A+k5G)

62 I saw Sniffen Her Boots open for Smell the Glove in LA, 1997

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 05, 2022 04:56 PM (flINI)

63 Rather than try to start a third party I think we should all join the Democrat party and fight this battle from inside the only party that will fight.

Posted by: Rock Doc at December 05, 2022 04:57 PM (6I0gt)

64 FFFFFFFFFF

Just talked to Thom Tillis' office in Greenville NC.

Asked the intern about the amnesty offer. She said he would ensure the border was secured first and then work on reforms. I asked her how that worked out for Reagan in 1986. She said that was before she was born. I asked what her degree was in, expecting history or political science.

Wait for it....

She said it was in social and economic justice reform.

I'm retired now. I will find time to call the same office again tomorrow.

Posted by: golfman at December 05, 2022 04:57 PM (BLVc0)

65 The only ones fighting are the Trump Judges. Only ones not afraid of McConnell.

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 04:58 PM (Cw0fX)

66 I am positive I said years ago illegals are not going to be to be tossed out. Oh maybe a few hundred but the millions are not ever going to leave except on own free will, and then return

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2022 04:58 PM (xhxe8)

67 We had to do the omnibus and the media cartel bills so that we could get the amnesty bill limited to only 2 million dreamers. You know I'm always working for you.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 05, 2022 04:58 PM (fs1hN)

68 "I asked her how that worked out for Reagan in 1986. She said that was before she was born."

So, it doesn't matter. Go it. Hitler anyone?

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 04:59 PM (sn5EN)

69
Stupid enough to give it to him? Or eager?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 04:59 PM (oINRc)

70 49. Mitch is 82 and cannot take it with him.

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:00 PM (Cw0fX)

71 Mitch has his money, Mitch has his good life.

What can anyone do to make Mitch fear that they can take his hundreds of millions and his mansions away?

Posted by: XTC at December 05, 2022 04:54 PM (UnA8+)

---------

Hire his wife to be Transportation Secretary?

Uhm, nevermind ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 05, 2022 05:00 PM (YE2oq)

72 "Got it", I mean. Anyway, what can history tell us? Nothing.
What does it matter at this point anyway?

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:00 PM (sn5EN)

73 She said that was before she was born. I asked what her degree was in, expecting history or political science.

Wait for it....

She said it was in social and economic justice reform.
Posted by: golfman

That tells you all you need to know about Tillis.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 05, 2022 05:00 PM (ES7IQ)

74 63 Rather than try to start a third party I think we should all join the Democrat party and fight this battle from inside the only party that will fight.
Posted by: Rock Doc at December 05, 2022 04:57 PM (6I0gt)

That's really not a bad idea.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 05, 2022 05:01 PM (BdMk6)

75 Rather than try to start a third party I think we should all join the Democrat party and fight this battle from inside the only party that will fight.
Posted by: Rock Doc at December 05, 2022 04:57 PM (6I0gt)


Actually, this isn't a horrible idea. We still wouldn't get our candidates elected, but we could really wreak some havoc in the meantime, which might be the only option we have.

Posted by: Wally at December 05, 2022 05:01 PM (FJYfm)

76 "Asked the intern about the amnesty offer. She said he would ensure the border was secured first.."

So Grandpa Diddlefingers opens up the border and continues to violate federal law, law made by Congress, and Republicans will ask him to actually obey the law, then reward him for doing his constitutional duty?

Did I get that right? These people are dunces.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2022 05:01 PM (pIKd9)

77 67 We had to do the omnibus and the media cartel bills so that we could get the amnesty bill limited to only 2 million dreamers. You know I'm always working for you.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 05, 2022 04:58 PM (fs1hN)

Look, I'd love to spend the money finishing the border wall and securing our country at home, but gull dern it, there's a war in Ukraine we must finance in perpetuity!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 05, 2022 05:01 PM (KbCG3)

78 "And the Republicans are just stupid enough to give him something in return for nothing."

Yeah, no. The Gormless Old Prats are not "stupid". They WANT this. The true aims of "both" "parties" are nearly 100% in alignment.

Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at December 05, 2022 05:02 PM (PWI4f)

79 Got it", I mean. Anyway, what can history tell us? Nothing.
What does it matter at this point anyway?
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:00 PM (sn5EN)

I guess I should've asked about slavery.

Posted by: golfman at December 05, 2022 05:02 PM (BLVc0)

80 Much legislation
Bills getting me excited
Where is big fat girl

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 05, 2022 05:02 PM (dwYx+)

81 Sherrod Brown, Tester, Manchin, Sinema all up in 2024.

And McConnell has already made secret deals with them, to screw their GOP nominees. Mitch the Bitch will also go after Rick Scott

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:02 PM (Cw0fX)

82 "Mitch has his money, Mitch has his good life."

It's not getting any longer either. The worst of them stay around forever to torment us though, partly because we buy them excellent health care.

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:02 PM (sn5EN)

83 70 49. Mitch is 82 and cannot take it with him.
Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:00 PM (Cw0fX)

Mitch likely does not believe in Hell (no matter what lies he tells us) and does not care.

Posted by: XTC at December 05, 2022 05:03 PM (UnA8+)

84 I mean, we are just making it up as we go along anyway. Why be burdened with the past?

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:03 PM (sn5EN)

85 If McCarthy were clever, he would go after McConnell right now hard. Might help him

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:03 PM (Cw0fX)

86 Anyone catching a whiff of the Dark Ages coming again?

Isn't part of the reason they were called "The Dark Ages" is because humanity as a whole forgot many of the advancements and lessons of history, and plunged into decline, violence, and political chaos?

Yeah, catching a whiff. "That was before I was born" indeed.

Posted by: Oldstoke at December 05, 2022 05:03 PM (z7sfH)

87 of course

unlimited third world immigration forever until this nation collapses

Posted by: brak at December 05, 2022 05:04 PM (lO5WT)

88 Mitch likely does not believe in Hell (no matter what lies he tells us) and does not care.
Posted by: XTC at December 05, 2022 05:03 PM (UnA8+)


He'll get promoted. He'll be Majority Leader there.

Posted by: Wally at December 05, 2022 05:04 PM (FJYfm)

89 They're making it up as they go along and quickly, as the uniparty realizes that with the new Republican house it will be impossible to get through. No principles, no thoughts as to either culture or history, just raw power . The hell with the country , forward!

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 05, 2022 05:04 PM (mP+mW)

90 Congress is in session this week and next. No way to get this passed before then.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 05, 2022 05:04 PM (Qy7kP)

91 First of all, any legislator using that infantilizing term "Dreamers" should be stripped of office.

I get less patient from there....

Posted by: Zek at December 05, 2022 05:04 PM (5FPX4)

92 Why the rush? Republicans were going to pass amnesty if they won.

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at December 05, 2022 05:04 PM (sHRkV)

93 That tells you all you need to know about Tillis.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 05, 2022 05:00 PM (ES7IQ)

Thus the Nip Sip reference. He was NC GOPe and pledged Tillis was on the up and up. I pledged I'd hold Nip's feet to the fire.

He was gone from here by summer of '15 or so.

*spit

Posted by: golfman at December 05, 2022 05:04 PM (BLVc0)

94 We had to do the omnibus and the media cartel bills so that we could get the amnesty bill limited to only 2 million dreamers. You know I'm always working for you.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 05, 2022 04:58 PM (fs1hN)

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Mitch could write a book entitled The Art of "The Kneel."

/A good book name about the 2020 election would be "The Art of the Steal."

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 05, 2022 05:05 PM (YE2oq)

95 >>> Republicans will ask him to actually obey the law, then reward him for doing his constitutional duty?

Did I get that right? These people are dunces.
Posted by: Marcus T
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Neeeeerk

Foul on the thought.

Republicans will reward Dems for saying that they will enforce the law. They are not going to actually do anything they agree to with the Pubbies.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 05, 2022 05:05 PM (dwYx+)

96 Twitter owner Elon Musk said Saturday that Apple is resuming its ad spending on his social media platform.

In a Twitter Spaces conversation, Musk said Apple had “fully resumed” its advertising, according to Bloomberg.

Posted by: Azathoth at December 05, 2022 05:05 PM (wb1YC)

97 Note, except for emergency matters, lame duck sessions are no longer legitimate. Might have been when 120 days separated an election and the departure of the outgoing Congress, when Congress was not in session 40% of the time, and when 13 months typically elapsed between the election of a new Congress and the convocation of its 1st session. Might have been then, not now. These people are leaving office in 28 days.

Posted by: Art Deco at December 05, 2022 05:05 PM (1BrBu)

98 What a pathetic old man McConnell is. Like soros and Buffett, he cannot give up the game at 82. Like Scummy old Romans

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:05 PM (Cw0fX)

99 67 We had to do the omnibus and the media cartel bills so that we could get the amnesty bill limited to only 2 million dreamers. You know I'm always working for you.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 05, 2022 04:58 PM (fs1hN)
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When Mitch has been up for reelection, how much Dem support and cheating has he got? After all it's in the Dems interest that he win his race.

Posted by: Ciampino at December 05, 2022 05:05 PM (qfLjt)

100 This proposed immigration deal is a flat no. These asylum processing changes are utter rubbish. All they change is exactly not a damn thing - the border will still be wide open with the illegals being released into country never to be seen again. And how is it that we suddenly have something approaching 10 million people all seeking asylum? Asylum is a code word to illegal immigration opponents that now means "we will cut your balls off if you oppose us."

To me, this reeks of giving the Democrats an "immigration reform" talking point for the 2024 election and buying more time until the number of illegals is so overwhelming the Democrats are going to come howling that the only solution to the problem they intentionally created is to grant citizenship to every last illegal.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 05, 2022 05:05 PM (c1mVn)

101 First of all, any legislator using that infantilizing term "Dreamers" should be stripped of office.

I get less patient from there....
Posted by: Zek at December 05, 2022 05:04 PM (5FPX4)


We should make them listen to the god-awful caterwauling of Supertramp's "Dreamer" until they all break and vote the bill down.

Posted by: Wally at December 05, 2022 05:06 PM (FJYfm)

102 Has anyone heard from Vic lately?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 05, 2022 05:06 PM (uz3Px)

103 98 What a pathetic old man McConnell is. Like soros and Buffett, he cannot give up the game at 82. Like Scummy old Romans
Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:05 PM (Cw0fX)

Leave the Halls of Power, lose the Foetal Blood Transfusions they get.

Posted by: XTC at December 05, 2022 05:07 PM (UnA8+)

104 Some form of path to citizenship for 2 million dreamers.

******

I take it this means Congress has some plan for determining the present whereabouts of the 2 million?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 05, 2022 05:07 PM (ykeLU)

105 Having failed to save the Republic, our legislators now just want rifle through its pockets.

Posted by: Zek at December 05, 2022 05:08 PM (5FPX4)

106 None of these people are very bright, ace, it's about intent, recklessness, irresponsibility, and of course $$.

This would be the second time a GOP "amnesty" initiative had been mooted, AFAIK, during this Congress. Unbelievable. Though actually now sort of SOP.

Note that "gun control" and marriage redefinition - oh and "infrastructure" - were already carried through by the Senate GOP. During an election cycle.

Which is exactly what you'd expect from the group that baby-sat and coddled the broad front coup and dismantlement of our system undertaken to prevent, neuter, and then remove Trump.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2022 05:08 PM (OTzUX)

107 In other countries, 10 GOP Senators would have embarrased McConnell, by switching to Indpendent. Still Caucus with the GOP, but it would make things much more tenious

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:08 PM (Cw0fX)

108 First of all, any legislator using that infantilizing term "Dreamers" should be stripped of office. I get less patient from there....Posted by: Zek

Amen.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 05, 2022 05:08 PM (c1mVn)

109 Look on the bright side, at the rate they're destroying the economy, the illegals will go elsewhere.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 05, 2022 05:08 PM (Qy7kP)

110 103. Well Said, XTC. Spot on

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:09 PM (Cw0fX)

111 Two million my ass. It's two million now, but by the time they are done it will be 25 million.

Posted by: huerfano at December 05, 2022 05:09 PM (dTFZY)

112 Look on the bright side, at the rate they're destroying the economy, the illegals will go elsewhere.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 05, 2022 05:08 PM (Qy7kP)
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They almost used that argument for Obama.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2022 05:09 PM (krQz2)

113 I take it this means Congress has some plan for determining the present whereabouts of the 2 million?
Posted by: Muldoon at December 05, 2022 05:07 PM (ykeLU)

They need an address for the welfare checks

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at December 05, 2022 05:09 PM (FN401)

114 No mention of the Democrat's favorite border security false promise for the last 15 years, an "Electronic Border Wall"? (An Electronic Border Wall that provides a secure border by magical means I've never understood.)

Boy howdy, they aren't even bothering to pretend any longer.


Also, this is a nuclear land mine:
"On the flip side, if migrants fail the initial interview determining whether they have a "credible fear" of persecution by being returned to their home countries, they’d be removed much more quickly."

OK, now tell me what the definition of "credible fear" is in this context. I bet the Secretary of DHS will be empowered to define that term.

Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2022 05:10 PM (AMIL/)

115 And where is Mark "Secure the Border" Kelly on this? Oh, right, he's probably helping Sinema draft this abomination.

And people think Lake telling McCain voters to go away was a mistake. Umm, no, this is what the McCain machine wants and, by extension, McCain voters.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at December 05, 2022 05:10 PM (5pTK/)

116 Two million my ass. It's two million now, but by the time they are done it will be 25 million.
Posted by: huerfano at December 05, 2022 05:09 PM (dTFZY)
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They'll see how much they need to cheat in the next election.

It will be like cooking, they'll add some and taste, add some and taste....

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2022 05:10 PM (krQz2)

117 111 Two million my ass. It's two million now, but by the time they are done it will be 25 million.
Posted by: huerfano at December 05, 2022 05:09 PM (dTFZY)

It'll be as many as it takes to turn Ohio, Florida, and Georgia permanently blue, and Texas purple.

Posted by: XTC at December 05, 2022 05:11 PM (UnA8+)

118 Mitch is Elaines bitch
Chinas consul pro tem
China buy US cheap

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 05, 2022 05:11 PM (dwYx+)

119 "if migrants fail the initial interview determining whether they have a "credible fear" of persecution by being returned to their home countries, they’d be removed much more quickly.""

Heck, I have a credible fear of persecution here.

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:12 PM (sn5EN)

120 The GOP Senate minority means nothing to a GOP Speaker. Filibuster does not matter in 2023

A clever Speaker, would bypass McConnell and only speak to Ron Johnson or Hawley

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:12 PM (Cw0fX)

121 The GOP needs to channel Don Vito C: "My offer is nothing." Enforce the law.
And shame (and impeachment) for those who have abetted criminal human trafficking.

Posted by: Zek at December 05, 2022 05:13 PM (5FPX4)

122 From the WashPo.

"Advocates tell me they think 10 GOP senators are gettable for these reforms, mostly Republicans who are retiring or are willing to challenge the GOP's Trump wing."

Posted by: lowandslow at December 05, 2022 05:13 PM (76Foq)

123 Trump's breath is so bad it could kill the batteries on a Chevy Volt EV !!!@!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at December 05, 2022 05:14 PM (KuCHZ)

124 "Immigration reform" is to a country what "fire" is to a house.

Posted by: Zek at December 05, 2022 05:14 PM (5FPX4)

125 Wife and I cancelled our trip to AZ for spring training. She is more irate than I am about Kari Lake. Her best friend lives there, and yelled at me on the phone for not going.

Fort Myers it is

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:14 PM (Cw0fX)

126 Some form of path to citizenship for 2 million dreamers.
******

I take it this means Congress has some plan for determining the present whereabouts of the 2 million?
Posted by: Muldoon

I take this to mean the Democrats want to normalize and set a precedent for granting citizenship to illegals. Today its the 2 million so called "Dreamers." Next up it will be granting citizenship to the other 40 million using whatever BS focus group, endorphin inducing term the Democrats will call them. Hard no on the 2 million.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 05, 2022 05:14 PM (c1mVn)

127
GOP = OK
GOP TRUMP WING = NOT OK

Posted by: In case you missed it at December 05, 2022 05:15 PM (sn5EN)

128 Please tell me the bill will not fund free college for all amnestied Dreamers, and cancel any existing college education loan debt they have. Lie if needed.

Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2022 05:15 PM (AMIL/)

129 It's now merely another footnote in the headlong collapse and disgrace that is the country, but hijacking the concept and policies for "asylum" is sickening and outrageous.

The US for decades was a leader in providing exactly what the initial intent was - asylum - for people actually being persecuted for political or other beliefs. It was a great moral policy.

Now it's been trashed and replaced with a ridiculous transparently dishonest "system" that is just mass illegal migration. Just a footnote, at this point.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2022 05:15 PM (OTzUX)

130 109 Look on the bright side, at the rate they're destroying the economy, the illegals will go elsewhere.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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America soft
The Illegals have sharp teeth
There will be conflict

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 05, 2022 05:15 PM (dwYx+)

131 Now would be a good time for DeSantis and Abbot to kick the busing program into high gear. Ten buses a day into Martha's Vinyard or a similar locale.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 05, 2022 05:15 PM (Qy7kP)

132 Of course the Republicans will give him something for nothing.

Posted by: Skynet at December 05, 2022 05:16 PM (pwExq)

133 A clever Speaker, would bypass McConnell and only speak to Ron Johnson or Hawley
Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:12 PM (Cw0fX)

This.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 05, 2022 05:16 PM (BdMk6)

134 "Trump's breath is so bad it could kill the batteries on a Chevy Volt EV !!!@!
Posted by: Dorcus Blimline"

You're one to talk!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline's Dildo at December 05, 2022 05:16 PM (sn5EN)

135 From Mollie Heminway on this bill.

"The GOP establishment is micturating on their voters’ faces and not even pretending to call it rain. The humiliation seems to be the point."

Posted by: lowandslow at December 05, 2022 05:16 PM (76Foq)

136 between this and 'there is no path to 270 in 2024', i am depressed.

Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at December 05, 2022 05:16 PM (mnUzy)

137 Gee, I can't make up my mind if I should learn Mexican or Chinese... or Russian.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 05, 2022 05:16 PM (Rbu5d)

138 If Fool's gold were a profit maker, I would be a billionaire. Tired of trying to prop up the GOP during election season.

As Ace said, I am done

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:17 PM (Cw0fX)

139 Though I am surprised this is kind of weak sauce for the Dems I thought they would be passing bills to put us into camps in the lane duck session but nah they will do that with executive orders.

Posted by: Skynet at December 05, 2022 05:17 PM (pwExq)

140 OK, now tell me what the definition of "credible fear" is in this context. I bet the Secretary of DHS will be empowered to define that term.

Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2022 05:10 PM (AMIL/)

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"The ACLU, ADL, & SPLC lawyers told me to say that White Supremacist Cisheteropatriarchical Oppressive Nazism Hate is being spread from the United States UltraMAGA Movement now all over the world, and specifically to Central and South America! Credible fear! REEEEEEEEEE!"

/"You're asylum request has been approved ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 05, 2022 05:18 PM (tP18f)

141 Hey, the GOPe wants to destroy the Trump win fine. Put up romney etc... They would be lucky to get Goldwater 1964 numbers in 2024

Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:18 PM (Cw0fX)

142 A clever Speaker, would bypass McConnell and only speak to Ron Johnson or Hawley
Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:12 PM (Cw0fX)


Yeah but we are going to get McCarthy.

Posted by: Skynet at December 05, 2022 05:18 PM (pwExq)

143 131 Now would be a good time for DeSantis and Abbot to kick the busing program into high gear. Ten buses a day into Martha's Vinyard or a similar locale.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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Notice that DeSantis has done nothing since the foiled plane trip.
'

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 05, 2022 05:19 PM (dwYx+)

144 Now would be a good time for DeSantis and Abbot to kick the busing program into high gear. Ten buses a day into Martha's Vinyard or a similar locale.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Send them Sinema's home address.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 05, 2022 05:19 PM (t7RX7)

145 It doesn't matter what the law is. Some Hawaiian judge will perve on it.

Posted by: torabora at December 05, 2022 05:19 PM (aGlce)

146 33...and Kick Your Ass Back Across the Border to Get in Line" Act. ...
Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2022 04:52 PM (pIKd9)

Utilizing a trebuchet, yes?

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 05, 2022 05:19 PM (Rbu5d)

147 From Mollie Heminway on this bill.

"The GOP establishment is micturating on their voters’ faces and not even pretending to call it rain. The humiliation seems to be the point."

Posted by: lowandslow at December 05, 2022 05:16 PM


Bonus points to Mollie for knowing the medical term for pissing.

Posted by: huerfano at December 05, 2022 05:20 PM (dTFZY)

148 The head of the Israel Bar Association warned Monday against legal reforms being pushed by members of the expected new religious-right coalition that would sharply curb the authority of the courts and allow politicians to determine judicial appointments.

The horror, the horror.

Supreme Court Judges are appointed by the President of Israel, from names submitted by the Judicial Selection Committee, which is composed of nine members: three Supreme Court Judges (including the President of the Supreme Court), two cabinet ministers (one of them being the Minister of Justice), two Knesset members, and two representatives of the Israel Bar Association. Appointing Supreme Court Judges requires a majority of 7 of the 9 committee members, or two less than the number present at the meeting.

In other words, existing Supreme Court members and the Israel Bar Association have a majority of the votes on the committee, not people who have actually been elected.

Remember, allowing elected representatives to choose judges is a way-station on the road to fascism!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 05, 2022 05:20 PM (KCOCK)

149 NeverMind the border betrayal, who’s up for some fun speculation about the 2024 GOP primaries !! We got a deep bench and you are sure to find a dreamy GOPish candidate

Posted by: Ex-GOP at December 05, 2022 05:20 PM (qPZhe)

150 These people are leaving office in 28 days.
Posted by: Art Deco at December 05, 2022 05:05 PM (1BrBu)

Now do ObamaCare.

Posted by: Golfman at December 05, 2022 05:20 PM (BLVc0)

151 "The GOP establishment is micturating on their voters’ faces ...."

Posted by: lowandslow at December 05, 2022 05:16 PM (76Foq)
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Some people pay good money for that action.

Posted by: Igor Danchenko at December 05, 2022 05:20 PM (krQz2)

152 well, why would the leftist demon lizards let their color revolution go to waste?

The GOP has ceased to be a political party. It's now Mitch's personal fleshlight. and he loaned it to Biden for the weekend.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 05, 2022 05:21 PM (MLrvz)

153 42 Why bother winning the House. ...
Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 04:53 PM (Cw0fX)

the new congress isn't seated until January.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 05, 2022 05:21 PM (Rbu5d)

154 From Mollie Heminway on this bill.

"The GOP establishment is micturating on their voters’ faces and not even pretending to call it rain. The humiliation seems to be the point."

Posted by: lowandslow at December 05, 2022 05:16 PM (76Foq)

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And one could say: part of the kink.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 05, 2022 05:22 PM (z5Neb)

155 49...What can anyone do to make Mitch fear that they can take his hundreds of millions and his mansions away?
Posted by: XTC at December 05, 2022 04:54 PM (UnA8+)

Well, evidently SOMEONE can make him fear this .

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 05, 2022 05:22 PM (Rbu5d)

156 Tee hee!

Posted by: McConnells Lieutenants at December 05, 2022 05:23 PM (hXzdW)

157 Does Kentucky have a Recall option? I don't even care if it won't succeed. I just want to make that jackass suffer.

Posted by: Wally at December 05, 2022 05:23 PM (FJYfm)

158 Yes, Ace, to get asylum you just need to tell the right lies. Even the New Yorker admits it. This story is just sickening. It's repeated millions of times.
https://tinyurl.com/2tv4hfv6

Posted by: Ultra pj at December 05, 2022 05:23 PM (G1dq6)

159 So, while Biden may be a senile husk of a fool, he has accomplished every legislative goal of the comsymp far super ultra mega left.

1. gheyboi marriage
2. abortion everywhere
3. gun bans
4. amnesty
5. killing oil
6. killing the American economy
7. a new era of racial animosity and tribalism
8. I mean, like really killing the American economy
9. using high tech platforms to kill free speech
10. political reprisals against political foes
11. Goddamn fucking trannies everywhere.
12. The IRS is a new goddamned fucking army

I guess the only thing we're waiting to lose next is covid passports, eliminating cypto, and ending cash transactions.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 05, 2022 05:24 PM (MLrvz)

160 What a pathetic old man McConnell is. Like soros and Buffett, he cannot give up the game at 82. Like Scummy old Romans
Posted by: Jonah at December 05, 2022 05:05 PM (Cw0fX)

A huge opportunity faces conservatives as these old GOPe Senate geezers die off in the next 5 years - until then, they'll hang on, basically because the Senate is a retirement community already and they're living at the public paid old folks' home. But die they will, and then - what is the RNC going to replace them with? Conservative MAGAs better have their donors and candidates lined up. Mitch is not going to be like that Galapagos turtle and live for 200 years - he's dead in 5.

Posted by: Boswell at December 05, 2022 05:24 PM (+Cgut)

161 well, why would the leftist demon lizards let their color revolution go to waste?

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Has anybody come up with the color for this internal revolutionary coup?

Perhaps the Rainbow Revolution would be most descriptive ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 05, 2022 05:24 PM (z5Neb)

162 Gee, I can't make up my mind if I should learn Mexican or Chinese... or Russian.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 05, 2022 05:16 PM


I went to the grocery store yesterday and there was a family of our new little brown brothers and sisters who looked like they might have been from Guatemala and spoke a language that might have been Mayan.

Posted by: huerfano at December 05, 2022 05:24 PM (dTFZY)

163 Yes, Ace, to get asylum you just need to tell the right lies. Even the New Yorker admits it. This story is just sickening. It's repeated millions of times.
https://tinyurl.com/2tv4hfv6
Posted by: Ultra pj

Like sweet little lies?

Posted by: Fleetwood Mac at December 05, 2022 05:25 PM (ftFVW)

164 rom Mollie Heminway on this bill.

"The GOP establishment is micturating on their voters’ faces and not even pretending to call it rain. The humiliation seems to be the point."

/////////

Call it Jebs revenge. 2016 was supposed to be the year the GOP shits on the base. It turns out 2022 was the perfect year to do so.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 05, 2022 05:25 PM (MLrvz)

165 A Uniparty Trebuchet into the sun seems appropriate.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 05, 2022 05:25 PM (eGTCV)

166 Yes, Ace, to get asylum you just need to tell the right lies. Even the New Yorker admits it. This story is just sickening. It's repeated millions of times.
https://tinyurl.com/2tv4hfv6
Posted by: Ultra pj at December 05, 2022 05:23 PM (G1dq6)


Look at Ilhan Omar. Her family gets to come over because Somalia was a hellhole. Forget the fact that her family was a big reason why Somalia was a hellhole.

Posted by: Wally at December 05, 2022 05:25 PM (FJYfm)

167 vote harder

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 05, 2022 05:25 PM (MLrvz)

168 learn to shelter in place

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 05, 2022 05:25 PM (MLrvz)

169 86...Yeah, catching a whiff. "That was before I was born" indeed.
Posted by: Oldstoke at December 05, 2022 05:03 PM (z7sfH)

I guess we can stop taking about slavery, now, right?

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 05, 2022 05:26 PM (Rbu5d)

170
This is accelerating and will all accelerate more. It has to.

You can't do the things these people did three years ago and ever try to go back one step. The Dems *own* these motherfuckers outright, now.

The GOP will now help strip out everything left of this country as fast as it can before the Party's over, as it were.

The best part is when they come out in favor of comprehensive live-birth reform next year. (R)enfield's gonna have to help (D)racula fix that oopsie.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:26 PM (oINRc)

171 145 It doesn't matter what the law is. Some Hawaiian judge will perve on it.
Posted by: torabora at December 05, 2022 05:19 PM
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My thoughts exactly!

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at December 05, 2022 05:27 PM (MFZ8i)

172 it's fucking bizarre how badly we lost.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 05, 2022 05:27 PM (MLrvz)

173 We're taking everything and you'll like it.

Posted by: Democrats at December 05, 2022 05:28 PM (aGlce)

174 >>Yes, Ace, to get asylum you just need to tell the right lies.


The State Department distributes Cheat Sheets and Coaches to help them tell the right lies at the right times.

They fucking advertise the service in Central America and Mexico.
UN is balls deep in this as well.

Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2022 05:28 PM (eo2rU)

175 Anybody ready to swear off the GOP for a couple of election cycles? That means no dough and no votes.

Yeah I didn’t think so. You are owned

Posted by: Ex-GOP at December 05, 2022 05:28 PM (qPZhe)

176 Will Mark Levin call me a bonehead if I oppose this?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2022 05:28 PM (63Dwl)

177 Advertisers are now returning to Twitter after Tim Cook crawled into a fetal position shortly after talking to Musk.

I guess the idea of a Muskaphone was all Tiny Tim needed to hear before he wet himself.

Posted by: Boswell at December 05, 2022 05:29 PM (+Cgut)

178 Oh, how surprising...

@TomFitton 3m

Dr. Fauci's daughter worked at
@Twitter until about a year ago...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 05, 2022 05:29 PM (IyrhE)

179 175 Anybody ready to swear off the GOP for a couple of election cycles? That means no dough and no votes.

////

that's the thing, there's never been any comeuppance for any political betrayal. Oh what are going to do, not vote? not donate? not volunteer?

they don't care, fuck you. They're paid and laid.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 05, 2022 05:30 PM (MLrvz)

180 Come back to theese country and we will keel you!

Posted by: Juan's Reference Letter at December 05, 2022 05:30 PM (sn5EN)

181 It is amazing how Democrat senators never sellout when they are retiring during a lame duck session to get some conservative priority passed.

It is almost like DC is a one progressive party kind of town.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at December 05, 2022 05:30 PM (MFZ8i)

182 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!11!!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBUNGLER at December 05, 2022 05:30 PM (jl+mR)

183 vote harder
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 05, 2022 05:25 PM (MLrvz)
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I'm going to continue to vote about the same strength, probably for Republican candidates, even though I haven't been a "Republican" in about 15 years.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2022 05:31 PM (krQz2)

184 Depressing....

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2022 05:31 PM (UK2bo)

185 "vote harder
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner "

What if I just vote hard?

Posted by: Guy with a suspicious bulge at December 05, 2022 05:31 PM (sn5EN)

186 Now would be a good time for DeSantis and Abbot to kick the busing program into high gear. Ten buses a day into Martha's Vinyard or a similar locale.

Take a page from medieval warfare:

Find all of those with C19, drug resistant TB, leprosy, polio, small pox, heck, even import some people with ebola.

Ship them however humanely possible to their new homes.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2022 05:32 PM (3hSHB)

187 The federal government is beyond saving. The states will have to reassert their rights under federalism. The it gets sporty.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 05, 2022 05:32 PM (Qy7kP)

188 >>> A huge opportunity faces conservatives as these old GOPe Senate geezers die off in the next 5 years - until then, ...
Posted by: Boswell a
--------------------------

You think China's not going to own the young punks?

hahahahahahahahah

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 05, 2022 05:32 PM (dwYx+)

189
Advertisers are now returning to Twitter after Tim Cook crawled into a fetal position shortly after talking to Musk.
====
Honestly, I have no idea what leverage Musk could really have. Cook has a whole, whole lot more power than Musk has. I doubt, for instance, he feels threatened by a phone manufacturing competitor. I doubt even Samsung would feel threatened by Musk in that arena, and they're the distant second in the market.

But it's apparently *something.*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:32 PM (oINRc)

190 I guess the idea of a Muskaphone was all Tiny Tim needed to hear before he wet himself.

Posted by: Boswell at December 05, 2022 05:29 PM (+Cgut)
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I'd bet he had access to Apple DMs.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2022 05:33 PM (krQz2)

191 This Is Real: Florida Man Attempts Walmart Robbery On "Shop With A Cop" Day -- pictures.
https://is.gd/dmOtHf

Posted by: Ciampino - Yeah a real winner at December 05, 2022 05:33 PM (qfLjt)

192 Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 05, 2022 05:24 PM

You forgot letting in a invasion

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2022 05:33 PM (xhxe8)

193 Too bad Nip Sip isn't around to tell us what a swell guy Thom Tillis is.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2022 05:33 PM (rxUKk)

194 Crime is up nearly across the board in Ilhan Omar's district. But we're sure that sooner than later her district will be just like the one she left in Somalia. Melting pots are racist.

Posted by: Democrats at December 05, 2022 05:34 PM (aGlce)

195 Are some places so dangerous you have to shop with a cop?

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:34 PM (sn5EN)

196 OT but funny: a Tasmanian tribunal has ruled that lesbian groups are not allowed to exclude "transwomen" who also claim to be lesbian.

If I've worked this out correctly, these people are guys with dicks who claim to be women, but also claim to be lesbians because they still want to have sex with women.

I'm old enough to remember when "male lesbian" was a Rush Limbaugh joke.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:34 PM (bW8dp)

197 Who buys the donuts?

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:34 PM (sn5EN)

198 Cook is a well paid administrator, Musk is the richest man on earth. And on Mars.

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2022 05:34 PM (UK2bo)

199 Listen, the GOP/Uniparty has wanted to do this since 2004, they have the biggest case of political blue balls in the history of politics.

They are going to nut, they won't be stopped.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2022 05:35 PM (up/3i)

200
Are some places so dangerous you have to shop with a cop?
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:34 PM (sn5EN)

I used to eat at a McD's that was sufficiently dangerous that they posted a DPD officer in the dining room after 5pm.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:35 PM (oINRc)

201 https://www.breitbart.com/lightfoots chicago over 3200-people-shot january-through-november 2022

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2022 05:35 PM (xhxe8)

202 Can anyone answer this: Who is representing us in Washington?

They have all-but appointed officers who are "certified" after plainly fraudulent elections as our "representatives."

The poor dirt farmer in colonial Pennsylvania had better representatives in Parliament than any rural or conservative American today. And far less taxes and regulations.

What are we getting out of this "Grand Bargain?" A hundred men rot in the DC prisons for speaking up while we're told this is a free democracy.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2022 05:35 PM (yHJof)

203 I saw Tasmanian Lesbians open for Men at Work in '87.

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:35 PM (sn5EN)

204 Sure, why not?

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 05, 2022 05:36 PM (hgD8w)

205 > Cook has a whole, whole lot more power than Musk has.

Nope. Cook has to answer to stockholders. Musk's Twitter does not.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:36 PM (bW8dp)

206 But it's apparently *something.*
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:32 PM (oINRc)

By the fact that Cook backed down, immediately, is proof the leverage happened. A smart phone is just not that hard to develop any more - certainly not for Musk who lands booster rockets on floating docks in the middle of the ocean and has no problem floating risk capital. And has a brand and a name. Without the stupid black turtleneck.

Posted by: Boswell at December 05, 2022 05:36 PM (+Cgut)

207 Watching a Blondie concert from 2017 . Deborah Harry is 72 years old at the time. If you close your eyes you can see the 35 year old Harry singing the songs. Damn I'm old. ( she doesn't look bad at all for 72)

Posted by: polynikes at December 05, 2022 05:36 PM (l4ZPt)

208 What are we getting out of this "Grand Bargain?" A hundred men rot in the DC prisons for speaking up while we're told this is a free democracy.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2022 05:35 PM (yHJof)

One of the best lines in Mel Gibson's "The Patriot", regardless of what you think of the movie overall, was the line Gibson's character gives earlier as the colonies debate succession: "Why would I trade one tyrant 4,000 miles away for 4,000 tyrants one mile away?". Great line, dunno if it was based on what someone said at the time or just made up in a Hollyweirdo script.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 05, 2022 05:38 PM (Rl7KJ)

209
Nope. Cook has to answer to stockholders. Musk's Twitter does not.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:36 PM (bW8dp)

Cook runs a company with a $2.3T market cap and every legislator in the country in its pocket.

Musk can't tell him what to do, at least on the face of things. Hell, he could probably have Musk killed if he wanted to.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:38 PM (oINRc)

210 "I used to eat at a McD's that was sufficiently dangerous that they posted a DPD officer in the dining room after 5pm.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice "

People should look out because they might get McShot by a McCop.

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:38 PM (sn5EN)

211 People should look out because they might get McShot by a McCop.
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:38 PM (sn5EN)
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Ashli Babbit did.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2022 05:40 PM (krQz2)

212 The federal government is beyond saving. The states will have to reassert their rights under federalism. The it gets sporty.
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I .... just don't see it.
Abbott is spineless.
DeSantis dreams of fitting drapes in the Oval Office.
The rest are pipsqueak dwarfs who'd pimp their mother for $7 in federal greenbacks.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2022 05:40 PM (yHJof)

213
Maybe it was as simple as "I have your DMs, bee-yotch. I know it was you got gay with Paul and beat him with a hammer."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:40 PM (oINRc)

214 Weird how all our elder congressmen seem to have been spared the SADS.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 05, 2022 05:40 PM (F5ekr)

215 FFS you guys are starting to sound like that doom peddling cocksucker JROD in fact he morning threads.

Posted by: Chad Thundercock at December 05, 2022 05:40 PM (AtoNk)

216 Passing the "credible fear" screening for asylum is comically easy. So expedited removal for those that fail that low hurdle will do nothing to reduce the amount of bogus asylum claims.

Posted by: Gahiggidy at December 05, 2022 05:40 PM (kfRGj)

217 Remember, if Elon actually calls his phone a muskaphone, he owes me royalties. I will share, obviously.

Posted by: Piper at December 05, 2022 05:41 PM (ZdaMQ)

218 Can anyone answer this: Who is representing us in Washington?

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Q and The Anons!

#TrustThePlan
#ItHadToBeThisWay
#TheWhiteHatsAreComing
#SteinerWillCome
#twoweeks

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 05, 2022 05:41 PM (z5Neb)

219 > Cook runs a company with a $2.3T market cap and every legislator in the country in its pocket.

Doesn't alter the fact that he still has to answer to stockholders, who are by no means all "woke". In fact, the majority probably are not.

If Musk cut into the iPhone market by only 15%, Cook would be sitting on the curb rattling a tin cup.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:41 PM (bW8dp)

220 I'm old enough to remember when "male lesbian" was a Rush Limbaugh joke.

I believe it was "A lesbian trapped in a man's body"

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2022 05:42 PM (3hSHB)

221 Mitch is not going to be like that Galapagos turtle and live for 200 years - he's dead in 5.
Posted by: Boswell at December 05, 2022 05:24 PM (+Cgut)
****
I'm trying to help you people out. This one has some kind of specialized immunity. Like stuff I've seen in Chi nah.

Posted by: Chi nah Virus at December 05, 2022 05:42 PM (aGlce)

222 > I believe it was "A lesbian trapped in a man's body"
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2022 05:42 PM (3hSHB)

I think you're right. Thanks. That was a long time ago.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:42 PM (bW8dp)

223 Well, we did get rid of Pelosi and I thought we would never see the end of her. Maybe there is a chance someone will put the turtle on a post soon.

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:43 PM (sn5EN)

224 As the symbol of the Roman Empire was a two-headed eagle, ours should be a two-headed vulture. Our "two" political parties are a single establishment that play-fights over hotbutton social issues, in a manner every bit as scripted as professional wrestling.

Our only hope at this point, in my opinion, is an Article V Convention that goes one of three ways:

1. Congressional Term Limits to shatter the stranglehold of the establishment.

2. Modifying the "first past the post" system to be less hostile to third parties, such as with runoff elections in cases where candidates in local or statewide races get less than 50%. This would make it easier for voters to vote their conscience in the general election, knowing that a runoff between the top two was likely.

3. Implementation of a national referendum system for a "Zero Confidence" referendum that could dismiss all elected and appointed officials in the Executive and Legislative branches with prejudice (where nobody who was removed in such a manner could run for office again), as well as all management-level Federal employees.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 05, 2022 05:43 PM (MIb2C)

225 Musk can't tell him what to do, at least on the face of things. Hell, he could probably have Musk killed if he wanted to.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:38 PM (oINRc)

The fact that Musk did tell him what to do is evidence in itself that he can. We could have all said this about Twitter and its CEO just last year, and now?

When 50% of the world market could care less about your ideology and just wants a product that gives them everything that they thought it would, and Musk would do that as opposed to Apple, it's the end of the world for the lefty corporate Cook types - at least he was smart enough to figure that out in one meeting.

Posted by: Boswell at December 05, 2022 05:43 PM (+Cgut)

226 218 Can anyone answer this: Who is representing us in Washington?
***
What am I? Controlled opposition? Tik tock

Posted by: Hannity at December 05, 2022 05:44 PM (aGlce)

227 201 https://www.breitbart.com/lightfoots chicago over 3200-people-shot january-through-november 2022

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2022 05:35 PM (xhxe
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Skip, that link is a 404
Can you fix it?

Posted by: Ciampino - Yeah a real winner at December 05, 2022 05:44 PM (qfLjt)

228 @222 can one be a non-binary man? I deal only in analogues.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 05, 2022 05:44 PM (F5ekr)

229 Musk has a partnership with T-moblie, Sprint.
He just got authorization to launch another 2700 low-orbit satellites to expand into cell phone.

You think a smartphone not tied to the nearest cell tower isn't leverage?

What Cook bought was time. But the phone is coming.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2022 05:44 PM (yHJof)

230
If Musk cut into the iPhone market by only 15%, Cook would be sitting on the curb rattling a tin cup.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:41 PM (bW8dp)

Not gonna happen. 15% would be a shocking marketshare for non-Apple-or-Samsung, and most would come from that heap, not Apple's.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:44 PM (oINRc)

231 Musk didn't tell him what to do, he told him what he would do..
Big difference, one is an order, the other a promise.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 05, 2022 05:45 PM (t7RX7)

232 "two million"
-- Dr Evil airquotes

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 05, 2022 05:45 PM (Vwz3I)

233 I believe it was "A lesbian trapped in a man's body"
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2022 05:42 PM (3hSHB)
_________

I had a roommate who used that line in the EARLY 70s.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 05, 2022 05:46 PM (TgBWG)

234 107 In other countries, 10 GOP Senators would have embarrased McConnell, by switching to Indpendent. Still Caucus with the GOP, but it would make things much more tenious
___________

Yes, but unlike Schumer and his "independents", Mitch would strip them of committee assignments.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 05, 2022 05:46 PM (fs1hN)

235 > "I used to eat at a McD's that was sufficiently dangerous that they posted a DPD officer in the dining room after 5pm.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice "

I stayed at an "extended stay" motel that was that way (you know, one of the ones that have kitchenettes... typically a good deal if you're going to be in an area for more than a day or two).

I noticed that there were always a few cop cars parked in the lot, day and night. I asked around and found out that the management had found it expedient to give free rooms to cops just to have them on the premises.

Not particularly comforting.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:46 PM (bW8dp)

236 Unconditional surrender is not a winning strategy. Republicans are useless at the federal level but our system is designed to insure that the federal level is not all we have.

Focus you energy and activities on local and state politics. Support only state representatives and governors that will aggressively defend states rights and won't be shy about engaging in nullification.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at December 05, 2022 05:46 PM (6tDeH)

237 The way I see it-

As long as McConnell or one of his pals is essentially in control of the Republican Party even winni9ng at a national level makes no difference.

And voting against someone in the primary, like say Cornyn, never works cuz they're all hooked into the GOPe apparatus.

So, the simplest idea is to turn to using the Democrat Party to put a conservative in place against a RINO candidate.

This wouldn't be like Rush's operation whatever. A mass switch of Rep voters to Democrat could be enough to put a real conservative in place against the RINO by winning the primary.

A clever conservative could also find enough points of agreement to possibly get a bunch of Dim votes anyway.

The logistics of a mass switch might be too much to overcome, but the Democrats used to have a reasonably conservative faction until they went full commie. It's possible that the yellow dog Dims would vote for whoever was on the Democrat ticket.
Even a conservative.

The idea is to get enough conservatives in Congress of whatever party to block stuff.

Otherwise, the only option is a third party, which...is very unlikely to succeed without massive help financially.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2022 05:46 PM (KLPy8)

238 I turned on Tillis just weeks after I voted for the ^&()_&^.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 05, 2022 05:46 PM (TgBWG)

239 Well, we did get rid of Pelosi and I thought we would never see the end of her. Maybe there is a chance someone will put the turtle on a post soon.
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2022 05:43 PM (sn5EN)

No positive posts allowed. This is aos .

Posted by: polynikes at December 05, 2022 05:46 PM (l4ZPt)

240 Look at Ilhan Omar. Her family gets to come over because Somalia was a hellhole.

Actually, no - Omar's actual family name is Nur. She and her relatives pretended to be part of another family to get into the United States. Her actual family was never admitted into the United States.

At some point, the State Department started doing DNA testing of Somali refugees and discovered that most Somali "families" were bringing in non-family members along with family members.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 05, 2022 05:47 PM (KCOCK)

241 The federal government is beyond saving. The states will have to reassert their rights under federalism. The it gets sporty.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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I made a note last night of a comment made by a poster,

"The Russian speaking separatists of eastern Ukraine were trying to secede and take part of Ukraine with them. When the South tried that here, we prevented it and treated them as a defeated population."

I wasn't too surprised to see the comment, just disgusted with the point of view.

That is the current perspective, you see. States Rights, and Federalism just are not meaningful, or relevant to the current population. 'WE prevented it...',

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2022 05:47 PM (59Ws+)

242 > Not gonna happen.

Ask the ghosts of Blackberry and Nokia whether dominance in cell phones can be relied upon in the long term.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:47 PM (bW8dp)

243 What Cook bought was time. But the phone is coming.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2022 05:44 PM (yHJof)

Satellite smart phones are the wave of the future - Musk knows this - Cook was smart enough to bend the knee or get eaten.

Posted by: Boswell at December 05, 2022 05:47 PM (+Cgut)

244
You've got to remember - you could market the best phone in the world and put a $200 pricetag on the thing, and most of Apple's customers would stay put.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:47 PM (oINRc)

245 https://www.breitbart.com/lightfoots chicago over 3200-people-shot january-through-november 2022

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2022 05:35 PM (xhxe
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Skip, that link is a 404
Can you fix it?
Posted by: Ciampino

https://is.gd/c02DmF

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 05, 2022 05:47 PM (t7RX7)

246 https://tinyurl.com/4fwy4wz9
Lightfoot's Chicagoland on a free fire zone

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2022 05:47 PM (xhxe8)

247 Otherwise, the only option is a third party, which...is very unlikely to succeed without massive help financially.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2022 05:46 PM (KLPy

Maybe we should ask Musk and Thiel to take a look at doing the Reform Party thing. They've got money.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 05, 2022 05:48 PM (MIb2C)

248 Does anyone know if there will be an opportunity to filibuster this stuff? Maybe the old fashioned way with the hours long speeches? It seems to me, this is the only time when the Senate is in session and isn't actively screwing us.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 05, 2022 05:48 PM (fs1hN)

249 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:47 PM (oINRc)

Musk has a huge cult following in other countries. They would drop their I phones in a heartbeat.

Posted by: polynikes at December 05, 2022 05:48 PM (l4ZPt)

250 > Does anyone know if there will be an opportunity to filibuster this stuff?

It would be a lot easier if the GOPe weren't determined to help the Dems put "Reverend" Warlock from the Ebenezer Scrooge Baptist Church in office.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:49 PM (bW8dp)

251 Otherwise, the only option is a third party, which...is very unlikely to succeed without massive help financially.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2022 05:46 PM (KLPy
_______
Still, if we beat a RINO, it's something.

How long ago did Ace suggest the Shit List? I definitely nominate Tillis for a spot on it. We just pick out some, and go all out to kill their careers, not matter whom the D's nominate.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 05, 2022 05:49 PM (TgBWG)

252 Samsung seems to reliably hold between 20-30% of the market to Apple's half, with the rest carving up the scraps. And it's been that way for a long time. I figure once Android found it's place, Apple lost as much share as it is likely to in the medium term, at least.

The remaining customers would rather pluck out their eyes than use a Peasantphone.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:50 PM (oINRc)

253 Well, RBG finally shuffled off; Pelosi retired; maybe in another 5 years, we will get rid of the turtle. of course, we may all be in gulags eating bugs by then.

Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at December 05, 2022 05:50 PM (mnUzy)

254 > Satellite smart phones are the wave of the future - Musk knows this -

And Musk is just the man who's prepared to exploit that.

Last I checked, Apple didn't have any launch capability.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:50 PM (bW8dp)

255 most of Apple's customers would stay put.
Posted by: Yudhishthira

Right. Well except if you took away their Twitter...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 05, 2022 05:51 PM (t7RX7)

256 Ask the ghosts of Blackberry and Nokia whether dominance in cell phones can be relied upon in the long term.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:47 PM (bW8dp)

Tim Cook, the CEO of the largest smart phone manufacturer in the world, disagrees with you. If he thought Musk had no leverage at all, Musk would be right now begging some knock off smart phone brands to download the Twitter App. Satellite smart phones are coming, and Apple knows it - and Musk controls that universe, not Apple.

Posted by: Boswell at December 05, 2022 05:51 PM (+Cgut)

257 The remaining customers would rather pluck out their eyes than use a Peasantphone.

Musk has demonstrated that he is perfectly capable of creating a popular luxury brand from scratch.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 05, 2022 05:51 PM (KCOCK)

258
I'm sure that one of you jackwagons has pointed out that "dreamers" already have a path to US citizenship: Take your ass home, go to the local US consulate and request the paperwork for emigration.

Besides, they already have citizenship... in their home countries.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2022 05:51 PM (n+4am)

259 Remember, if Elon actually calls his phone a muskaphone, he owes me royalties. I will share, obviously.

Posted by: Piper at December 05, 2022 05:41 PM (ZdaMQ)

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He could lock the Deep State spies and name it the HyperSnoop.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 05, 2022 05:52 PM (z5Neb)

260 > Tim Cook, the CEO of the largest smart phone manufacturer in the world, disagrees with you.

I think you are misreading.

Cook blinked, because Musk holds all the cards in the long run.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:52 PM (bW8dp)

261 well if no one mentioned this already, here is some happy news, from cnn via twitchy:

"Disgraced attorney Michael Avenatti sentenced to 14 years in prison for obstruction and embezzling millions of dollars from his clients."

Posted by: gnat's local 678 at December 05, 2022 05:52 PM (kFrCu)

262 Yeah, because our Government can AFFORD to spend more money on people who should not be here in the first place.

/spit.

Government spending is what is driving inflation... so of course, the governments solution is to spend more money.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2022 05:52 PM (oHd/0)

263 *MOCK the Deep State spies ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 05, 2022 05:52 PM (z5Neb)

264
Tim Cook, the CEO of the largest smart phone manufacturer in the world, disagrees with you. If he thought Musk had no leverage at all, Musk would be right now begging some knock off smart phone brands to download the Twitter App.

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I don't doubt that he does. I do doubt that it's an ill-defined threat about an awesome new satphone.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:52 PM (oINRc)

265 Nancy isn't retired. She'll still be pulling strings.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 05, 2022 05:53 PM (SJsWC)

266 You've got to remember - you could market the best phone in the world and put a $200 pricetag on the thing, and most of Apple's customers would stay put.
Posted by: Yudhishthira'
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Heh, could lead to a version of the old Ford vs. Chevy contretemps, iDoodle vs. Muskphone.

By their phone ye shall know them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2022 05:53 PM (clWQn)

267
Ocho ballots, por favor.

Posted by: The Future of our Country at December 05, 2022 05:54 PM (enJYY)

268 I'm sure that one of you jackwagons has pointed out that "dreamers" already have a path to US citizenship: Take your ass home, go to the local US consulate and request the paperwork for emigration.

Besides, they already have citizenship... in their home countries.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2022 05:51 PM (n+4am)

Its clear from the Constitution that Congress controls the laws about immigration and naturalization... when the Supremoes ruled that Dual Citizenship was AOK, it was CLEARLY overstepping its powers.

That is the first step to cleaning up immigration IMO, get rid of dual citizenship.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2022 05:54 PM (oHd/0)

269 The greatest trick the Republicans ever pulled was convincing man that they are stupid.

Posted by: ... at December 05, 2022 05:54 PM (B1OdU)

270 Government spending is what is driving inflation... so of course, the governments solution is to spend more money.
Posted by: Romeo13
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See: The Inflation Reduction Act

'We have to spend money in order to balance the budget'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2022 05:55 PM (clWQn)

271 Cook blinked, because Musk holds all the cards in the long run.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 05, 2022 05:52 PM (bW8dp)

Sorry RB - you are right - I didn't read your comment correctly - you have the right train of thought - sorry!

Posted by: Boswell at December 05, 2022 05:55 PM (+Cgut)

272 re filibuster: dems can probably use the reconciliation process to get what they want. they can almost always get what they want when a couple of would-be mccains want to get a word of praise from the ny times and the washington post and weekend arsewipe.

Posted by: gnat's local 678 at December 05, 2022 05:56 PM (kFrCu)

273 Besides, they already have citizenship... in their home countries.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2022 05:51 PM (n+4am)


This has been a point of contention in our church. The Pope wants us to welcome the illegals with open arms, and open wallets. Many have noted that there are Catholic churches in Mexico, too, and the illegals are already citizens there. Maybe those churches need to step up.

Posted by: Wally at December 05, 2022 05:56 PM (FJYfm)

274 nood

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 05, 2022 05:56 PM (PWvcU)

275
"Disgraced attorney Michael Avenatti sentenced to 14 years in prison for obstruction and embezzling millions of dollars from his clients."
Posted by: gnat
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Wait...I thought that he was Presidential timber.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2022 05:57 PM (clWQn)

276 118 Mitch is Elaines bitch
Chinas consul pro tem
China buy US cheap
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 05, 2022 05:11 PM (dwYx+)

You here long time. You go now, mitch.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 05, 2022 05:57 PM (Rbu5d)

277 Musk has a huge cult following in other countries. They would drop their I phones in a heartbeat.

When the ship hits the sand and the junta decides to switch off cell phone towers to control the people, those thousands of LO commsats are going to be mighty handy to those the junta seeks to silence and eliminate.

We are already in a communist country without rule of law, its not that long before the ferals understand that and join the Left in the game of total economic/social destruction.

Some dinged bats already are shooting out power substations for kicks.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2022 05:57 PM (3hSHB)

278 Wait...I thought that he was Presidential timber.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2022 05:57 PM (clWQn)

He is.

Posted by: ... at December 05, 2022 05:58 PM (B1OdU)

279 "Disgraced attorney Michael Avenatti sentenced to 14 years in prison for obstruction and embezzling millions of dollars from his clients."

Now do Sam Bank Fraud

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2022 05:58 PM (3hSHB)

280 I used to eat at a McD's that was sufficiently dangerous that they posted a DPD officer in the dining room after 5pm.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:35 PM (oINRc)
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Chicken Shack on the way home from work.
Fat black man in the corner, leaning back in his chair, shotgun laying across his lap.

He meant it too.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 05, 2022 05:58 PM (dwYx+)

281 258
I'm sure that one of you jackwagons has pointed out that "dreamers" already have a path to US citizenship: Take your ass home, go to the local US consulate and request the paperwork for emigration.

Besides, they already have citizenship... in their home countries.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2022 05:51 PM (n+4am)

But they are being forced to live in the shadows!!

Oh wait, no one is forcing them to stay. They can still go home. Oh well.

Posted by: Javems at December 05, 2022 05:58 PM (AmoqO)

282 Can anyone answer this: Who is representing us in Washington?

*raises hand*

China.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at December 05, 2022 05:59 PM (nxdel)

283 144...Send them Sinema's home address.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 05, 2022 05:19 PM (t7RX7)

This.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 05, 2022 06:00 PM (Rbu5d)

284 277 Musk has a huge cult following in other countries. They would drop their I phones in a heartbeat.
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Ian Miles Cheong Nov 26

If Elon Musk makes a new smartphone as an alternative to the iPhone and Android to fight censorship, will you get one?

Yes, I’ll get one . _ 71.3%
Yes, I’ll get multiple _13.6%
No, . . . . _ 15.1%

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 05, 2022 06:00 PM (dwYx+)

285 "Disgraced attorney Michael Avenatti sentenced to 14 years in prison for obstruction and embezzling millions of dollars from his clients."


What's that in California years? One?

Posted by: lowandslow at December 05, 2022 06:01 PM (76Foq)

286
Remember, if Elon actually calls his phone a muskaphone, he owes me royalties. I will share, obviously.
Posted by: Piper


His phone company should be MuskaTel.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2022 06:01 PM (63Dwl)

287 265 should be interesting to watch Pelosi try and pull strings and not be called racist. "Nancy's whitesplaining " will be fun to hear and couldn't happen to a nicer person

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 05, 2022 06:03 PM (mP+mW)

288 >>>Some dinged bats already are shooting out power substations for kicks.
Posted by: Reuben Hick
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There was a well orchestrated practice run in CA some several years ago.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 05, 2022 06:03 PM (dwYx+)

289 @200 In the 60's McD's used to hire off-duty cops for the parking lot, to chase the "hot rodders" away. Fifteen years later they desperately wanted to be remembered as part of the youth culture. They suck.

@208 Patrick Henry, I think. But it was 3000 miles.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 05, 2022 06:04 PM (jYCXf)

290 161...
Has anybody come up with the color for this internal revolutionary coup?

Perhaps the Rainbow Revolution would be most descriptive ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 05, 2022 05:24 PM (z5Neb)

I believe the overthrow of the USA was assigned the color purple. https://tinyurl.com/bdzj3feb

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 05, 2022 06:05 PM (Rbu5d)

291 >You've got to remember - you could market the best phone in the world and put a $200 pricetag on the thing, and most of Apple's customers would stay put.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2022 05:47 PM (oINRc)

Yep. Apple's a lifestyle brand, not a tech company.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 05, 2022 06:05 PM (fS+AK)

292 Mitch and the rest of the Bend Over and Take It Caucus will be lining up to vote for it.

Posted by: Stacy0311 at December 05, 2022 06:05 PM (VfLe7)

293
How long ago did Ace suggest the Shit List? I definitely nominate Tillis for a spot on it. We just pick out some, and go all out to kill their careers, not matter whom the D's nominate.
Posted by: Eeyore

i'm in.

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