THE MORNING RANT: What Can We Do To Counter the Power of Billionaire Philanthropaths?

I just stumbled on the word “philanthropath,” and I am appropriating it for my ongoing use. It is the perfect word to describe the mega-rich global villains who are seeking to impose their evil agenda on us.

Now that we have a word that properly characterizes the sociopathy of activist billionaires, what can we do to stop them?

I don’t have the answer. I’m not sure I even have any good ideas. At the end of this piece I’ll offer up a few thoughts, but my objective in writing this is to get a conversation going among liberty-loving Americans.

Specifically, What can we do to defang the evil billionaire philanthropaths?

Look at how much evil is captured in this one WEF tweet quoting Klaus Schwab. He and his WEF buddies want to deny “humanity” such things as meat, property ownership, and carbon-based energy. And don’t forget that Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg are among his WEF buddies.

These sociopaths also believe that there are too many people on the planet, causing its destruction. Eating bugs and freezing in the dark is their “polite request” to save the planet. I am very afraid of their not-so-polite follow-up request to depopulate the planet.

There’s nothing to add to this recent – and very terrifying - comment from a WEF adviser: “We just don’t need the vast majority of the population in today’s world.”

Breirbat Yuval Harari - Excess People.JPG

It didn’t take long for our ruling class to move on from identifying “non-essential” businesses that must be shut down in the Covid era to now identifying “non-essential” people that shouldn’t be on this planet at all.

What else are these philanthropaths up to?

A Bill Gates Venture Aims To Spray Dust Into The Atmosphere To Block The Sun. What Could Go Wrong? [Forbes - January 2021]

Mark Zuckerberg – ‘We should explore universal basic incomes [WEF Forum – May 2017]

Jeff Bezos Commits $10 Billion to Address Climate Change [NY Times – Feb 2020]

What can we do? Here are some ideas, or maybe a combination of some of these. Obviously, most of these can’t happen until we have a populist conservative President in the White House. For others, it might be necessary for a temporary alliance among the Democrat left and the MAGA right. Never forget that in WWII we had to ally with Stalin to beat Hitler. If we have to have a situational alliance with Liz Warren to neutralize the billionaire philanthropaths of Monster Tech, so be it.

Trustbusting: Breaking up Microsoft, Facebook and other monopoly companies might not reduce the existing wealth of Gates and Zuckerberg, but it would be a strike at their legacies, and it would send the message that we are finally striking back against the breeding ground of tech oligarchs.

Block Major Mergers & Acquisitions: I know the names of too many CEOs because of their prominence in advocating woke politics. As for their business prowess, most of them sneer at building a business, they simply want to grow by doing mergers and acquisitions. Deny it to them. The smaller their companies, the smaller their stock options, and the smaller their potential influence.

State Attorney Generals / Special Prosecutors / Lawfare: Because of “my principals,” I used to be opposed to lawfare, but it isn’t going away and it’s constantly used against conservatives, so maybe it’s time we use lawfare against our foes. Donald Trump and a whole bunch of people associated with him are under constant investigation as Democrats play out Laventriy Beria’s famous line “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.” Maybe it’s our turn. We know who the evil philanthropaths are, so maybe we just need to investigate them to find out what crimes we can charge them with.

Release the Epstein Records: We already know that a lot of prominent people such as Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, and Bill Gates spent a great deal of time with Jeffrey Epstein at his various properties. Whatever awfulness is in the Epstein records, it would remove some prominent people from public life. By the way, if I were a 2nd tier 2024 Presidential candidate of either party, I would make it a sworn campaign promise to unseal and release the Epstein records. Across the political spectrum, people are outraged and disgusted that Epstein’s clients are being protected. This promise would get attention and help the candidate get traction.

One thing I remain opposed to is confiscating the philanthropaths’ wealth. At least for now. History has shown us that when government tries to tax the super-wealthy via inheritance tax or other means, it ends up punishing innocent hard-working people, such as farmers who have to sell their land to pay the inheritance tax.

But if I am chosen for removal from the planet by the WEF, or if Bill Gates tries to block out the sunlight that keeps us all alive, I could quickly become receptive to any action to stop these madmen. My principles adapt quickly when dealing with people who want me and my family dead.

So let’s get the discussion going. What can we do to stop the philanthropaths?

P.S. - It goes without saying that we will not be getting any ideas from “conservative” think tanks or establishment publications, since they receive much of their funding from various philanthropaths who are paying to receive favorable, right-of-center media coverage. You are more likely to read “The Conservative Case for Command and Control of the Global Economy” from Conservative, Inc. than you are to see a think piece from them on how to stop Klaus Schwab’s diabolical agenda.

(buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com)

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 Yeet

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 02, 2022 11:00 AM (CrsmZ)

2 "philanthropath," eh? I like it!

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at December 02, 2022 11:00 AM (Nmmyc)

3 Podium

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 02, 2022 11:00 AM (8L0GZ)

4 What to do?

Well, we can't say if we want Ace to keep his blog.

Posted by: XTC at December 02, 2022 11:02 AM (UnA8+)

5 Are public executions off the table?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 02, 2022 11:02 AM (uNylN)

6 Died Suddenly video has many of these saying there are too many people in the world

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 02, 2022 11:03 AM (8L0GZ)

7 I'd like to add...

Take all of their money.

This is where the far left could be useful. Pass a billionaire tax that confiscates all of the money over 1B.

Posted by: MJ at December 02, 2022 11:03 AM (zwDuR)

8 Eat more bugs!

Posted by: Yuval Harari, gay psychopath at December 02, 2022 11:03 AM (vcOmj)

9 I used to think the early James Bond movies were silly.

NAZI affiliated leaders of nebulous organizations and globocompanies implementing world wide schemes to just make life suck more for normal people while giving speeches about how its all for the greater good (somehow)?

And then I got to see Klaus Schwab.

I apologize Mr Fleming, you were actually underselling it to make it seem less ridiculous then it really is.

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Posted by: Jennifer at December 02, 2022 11:03 AM (8ZUuf)

12 While I despise people like Schwab, I agree that 9B people is probably too many for the planet. It results in the elimination of habitat for too many species.

I'd like to see a gradual, natural decline to something more like 2-3B, but unless something changes, it might even plummet beyond that, if people don't start having babies again.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:03 AM (eOEVl)

13 recent – and very terrifying - comment from a WEF adviser: “We just don’t need the vast majority of the population in today’s world.”

The people who say this kind of thing inevitably have no idea how the world actually works, how all the things that make up their world come to be. Laptop class "sophisticates" who would struggle to change a tire.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at December 02, 2022 11:03 AM (KFhLj)

14 Bullets. Lots and lots of bullets.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2022 11:04 AM (Q4IgG)

15 So let’s get the discussion going. What can we do to stop the philanthropaths?"

well I think we all know, but we can't talk about those kinds of things on a nice blog like this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 11:04 AM (trdmm)

16 You first.

Posted by: Halfhand at December 02, 2022 11:04 AM (vAH59)

17 I will follow the example made by said billionaire philanthrofags..

I will shiver in the dark and eat bugs when they do.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 02, 2022 11:04 AM (Kk8/0)

18 *considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:04 AM (LvTSG)

19
For some reason I just started humming La Marseillaise. Dangedest thing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 02, 2022 11:05 AM (oINRc)

20 Speaking of FJBs brain melting. Watch this stunning display of dementia.

https://tinyurl.com/mwkvbzad

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 10:51 AM (+hI+T)

Take a look at this photo taken several hours after that video:

https://tinyurl.com/ye29r7xa
Posted by: Gref at December 02, 2022 10:57 AM (AMIL/)

Holy crap. "Grandpa, remember when you and grandma used to take me to the lake house when I was a little boy?" "Yes! Yes! Such a lovely boy you are!"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:05 AM (+hI+T)

21 Klaus Schwab has no power.

He can come up with ideas, but in the end, it will be my neighbor the cop, my fellow resident the judge, or my friends son the military man that will try to impose these things on me.

It is my neighbors and my community that will oppress me for a paycheck, not Klaus Schwab.

We are a nation of government mercenaries.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2022 11:05 AM (6Dtba)

22 The left: There are too many people on the planet, if we don't get rid of most of them the world will be destroyed. This is an existential threat!

Also the left: You know we'd really be better off without you deplorables.

Also, Also the left: We made this jab to save your life scum. Seriously. Why don't you believe us?!? And if you don't take it we'll kill you.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 02, 2022 11:05 AM (ESjRY)

23 And still no lock&load.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at December 02, 2022 11:05 AM (ytSiK)

24 They never live by example, force them to.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 02, 2022 11:05 AM (AXxfu)

25
I'd like to see a gradual, natural decline to something more like 2-3B, but unless something changes, it might even plummet beyond that, if people don't start having babies again.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:03 AM (eOEVl)

Since white populations are already decreasing, the problem is how do the white people get rid of all of the surplus brown and black babies? Pharaoh had a similar problem about 4,000 years ago.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 11:06 AM (trdmm)

26 *considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*

Having mentioned Prometheus three times.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 02, 2022 11:06 AM (ZSK0i)

27 There's a line in Dickens about surplus population that these creatures might want to remember.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 02, 2022 11:06 AM (4olE8)

28 Confiscatory taxes of all wealth above a certain amount. This is not what I would prefer, and I have long recoiled at this idea, but I have come around to thinking it is necessary. At some point having so much money is just not needed. You don't see many with $50 million in wealth engaged in this lunacy, and yet, that is sufficient to enjoy an extravagant lifestyle for yourself and your family. These folks preach about the common good to justify their actions. OK, the common good now dictates that every penny you earn above $50 Million is confiscated and given to the government. And to be clear, every penny of that must go toward paying down any existing debt or deficit before it can be used for any other purpose.

Posted by: DPICM at December 02, 2022 11:06 AM (M2VUX)

29 The Twilight Zone episode 'The Obsolete Man' has crossed my mind for some reason.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 02, 2022 11:06 AM (Hudry)

30 Gentlemen, there must not be a bug supply gap.

The mouth breathers must be fed.

Bombing begins in 5 minutes.

Posted by: Bill Gates, an Epstein client at December 02, 2022 11:06 AM (vcOmj)

31 Anyone catch the data showing all the out of state unemployed donors to Warnok's campaign in GA? tune of like $24 Million

Wonder which billionaire is behind those, Zalinsky?

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at December 02, 2022 11:07 AM (53oGX)

32 The Davos billionaires club buys politicians, who legislate their way, and make their actions "perfectly legal". They can want what they want, but the ability to make it happen comes when you own people like Rishi, Justin, and Jacinda, as well as wannabes like Nikki, Crenshaw, and many others.

The Dutch government would not be seizing farmland if it was not for the WEF gang. Their big food distributor Picnic was created with Gates' money, and will probably focus on insects and plant based meats, and rationing.

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:07 AM (Zzbjj)

33 I hope Satan Klaus had a big heart attack that leaves him with a 15% ef. Suffer long and hard before he dies.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:07 AM (+hI+T)

34 It is my neighbors and my community that will oppress me for a paycheck, not Klaus Schwab.

I am reminded of that guy in AZ that certified the Steal and then said he only did it because they told him they'd arrest him if he refused.

Then: We Pledge Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor

Now: ITS A CLASS 6 FELONY PEOPLE

Posted by: 18-1 at December 02, 2022 11:07 AM (ESjRY)

35 I’m humming the Marcusaise.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 02, 2022 11:07 AM (Az2It)

36 What can we do to defang the evil billionaire philanthropaths?

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Where are the billionaire philanthropaths on our side?

I wish I was one, but I'm neither ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 11:07 AM (K3TEc)

37 Posted by: Jennifer at December 02, 2022 11:03 AM (8ZUuf)

Jennifer, I'm in!

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at December 02, 2022 11:07 AM (53oGX)

38 Mark Zuckerberg – ‘We should explore universal basic incomes’

You dumbfucks need to get your shit straight.

Why do you need universal basic incomes if you are wanting to depopulate the planet?
Why would you want to pay useless eaters? Why not just get rid of them?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2022 11:07 AM (9uCBG)

39 Speaking of FJBs brain melting. Watch this stunning display of dementia.

https://tinyurl.com/mwkvbzad

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022

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And yet the left made fun on Reagan and suggested he was too old to function as President. The standards, they are double, no?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2022 11:07 AM (J2vNu)

40 39 And yet the left made fun on Reagan and suggested he was too old to function as President. The standards, they are double, no?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2022 11:07 AM (J2vNu)

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"Who's Reagan?"
-The modern journalist

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:08 AM (LvTSG)

41 12 While I despise people like Schwab, I agree that 9B people is probably too many for the planet. It results in the elimination of habitat for too many species.
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Easy fix - nuke China, India and Africa.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 02, 2022 11:08 AM (xSnmX)

42 The problem with all the ideas listed, and they are good ideas, is that they're not something the average person has any say in. They all require the political will at very high levels and the progs have made it very clear they don't intend for us to ever have that power again.

Which leaves only bad, probably very bloody, options that not many sane people want to see happen.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 02, 2022 11:08 AM (nC+QA)

43 What can we do to defang the evil billionaire philanthropaths?

338 Lapua has entered the chat.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2022 11:09 AM (9uCBG)

44 I am very afraid of their not-so-polite follow-up request to depopulate the planet.

The CEO of Pfizer is among the WEF buddies. They've already put their plan into action. Also, it's important to note that young, healthy people dying suddenly of "no apparent cause" is perfectly normal and historically common.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at December 02, 2022 11:09 AM (1Z8zZ)

45 I liked it better when Bond villains were just in Bond movies.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at December 02, 2022 11:09 AM (FVME7)

46 It is my neighbors and my community that will oppress me for a paycheck, not Klaus Schwab.

We are a nation of government mercenaries.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2022 11:05 AM (6Dtba)

Schwab connects pols with billionaires, and together they work to oppress you. You can blame the neighbor making his house payments, but who's making the rules and laws he's enforcing? Purchased politicians.

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:09 AM (Zzbjj)

47 We should explore universal basic incomes - just not with my money.

Posted by: Mark Zuckerberg at December 02, 2022 11:09 AM (vAH59)

48
I met a retired pilot yesterday who used fly AF1 escort duty for Reagan. Very interesting guy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 02, 2022 11:09 AM (oINRc)

49 India and China have 3 billion combined, but I have to make sacrifices.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM (+hI+T)

50 People that say the planet is overpopulated never kill themselves and their own families.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM (6Dtba)

51
The CEO of Pfizer is among the WEF buddies. They've already put their plan into action. Also, it's important to note that young, healthy people dying suddenly of "no apparent cause" is perfectly normal and historically common.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at December 02, 2022 11:09 AM (1Z8zZ)

The CEO of Moderna is also a WEF leader.

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM (Zzbjj)

52 Since white populations are already decreasing, the problem is how do the white people get rid of all of the surplus brown and black babies? Pharaoh had a similar problem about 4,000 years ago.

I can't tell if this is a charge of racism. If so, I'll ignore it. Whites, asians, middle easteners, India, pretty much everywhere but sub-Saharan Africa and some parts of the Muslim world are at or below replacement. If current trends hold, which I doubt they will, Nigeria will have something like 800M people this century.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM (eOEVl)

53 Died Suddenly video has many of these saying there are too many people in the world

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 02, 2022 11:03 AM (8L0GZ)

We need to start inviting those saying this to 'say it in the original German'. Which is something Twitter is useful for.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM (nC+QA)

54 This will remain one of the greatest moments in the history of TV!!!

https://tinyurl.com/2s3numrk

Posted by: Katfish at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM (+Z2md)

55 You either rely on national/international laws they break, holding them ruthlessly accountable to those laws, or admit that’s why countries have special forces and black ops.

I admit to believing that when people use large amounts of money and/or excessive influence to place themselves beyond the law, measures beyond the law are called for.

Posted by: Advo at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM (LcnVR)

56 Like a whole host of other European nations, Switzerland’s energy situation is being significantly stressed as a result of Russia largely pulling out of Europe’s energy market, with the country seeming particularly concerned about its supply of electricity.

As a result, according to a report by Swiss newspaper 20 Minuten, the country’s government has drawn up a raft of emergency measures aimed at reducing strain on the power grid for use in emergency scenarios.

While measures such as limiting the total speed of cars, reducing the opening hours of shops as well as the amount of heating permitted at nightclubs are also planned, included in the government’s power saving scheme is a ban on the use of electric cars for non-essential purposes.

.. Democratic Senator Debbie Stabenow should take note

Posted by: SMOD at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM (RHGPo)

57 taxation is pointless now - all of the money is fake, it's just ones and zeroes in a digital leger somewhere that can be quadrupled or deleted at the whim of some nameless bureaucrat. The only reason taxation still exists is try to keep up the public lie that somehow this is being paid for, rather than admitting that it's all run worse that Sam BankFraud's FTX was being run.

After it all crashes, we can talk about how to build something new and more honest. But we have to live through the crash first, sadly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM (trdmm)

58 People that say the planet is overpopulated never kill themselves and their own families.

On the plus side more and more of the left is going gay or tranny.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM (ESjRY)

59 I am very afraid of their not-so-polite follow-up request to depopulate the planet.

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Die pretty please!

- Kinder, Gentler Wokism

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at December 02, 2022 11:11 AM (FVME7)

60 Living under the bootheel of authoritarian psychopaths is what is unsustainable.

At least in the last century they might make some trains run on time; there is nothing in this proposed future for us peasants, and enough people know it that I don't think it's going to go down the way they think it's going to go down. The current (actual) powers that be seem to think they can direct and ride out a late bronze age level collapse, and I'm not buying it.

I suspect they're going to get the "collapse" part regardless, now, though. The birth figures and death rates speak for themselves, as their minions run around destroying industry and logistics.

Posted by: somedood at December 02, 2022 11:11 AM (QBv/U)

61 There aren't 9 billion people. There are less than 8 billion.

And all of the growth over the past few decades has been in the third and developing worlds. If we're going to be getting rid of people to get us to the "right" number, you have to kill a whole lot of brown people.

The first world is simply not growing anymore. The solution to unrestrained population growth is economic success to the point where people don't need a bunch of kids to help create personal wealth through their labor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:11 AM (LvTSG)

62 Watch this video. It's very topical to the current thread.

Conspiracy theories cease being theories when they are happening.

https://tinyurl.com/2dbnb65k

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:11 AM (ZLI7S)

63 You can blame the neighbor making his house payments, but who's making the rules and laws he's enforcing?

The bastard that will oppress his neighbor to make a house payment should stick a pistol in his mouth and blow his own brains out.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2022 11:11 AM (6Dtba)

64 People that say the planet is overpopulated never kill themselves and their own families.

Why should they? Why not simply let humanity's ongoing natural reduction in population occur?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:11 AM (eOEVl)

65 AstraZeneca's CEO veterinarian (Bourla is also a vet) is a WEF agenda contributor, too. This is not a coincidence.

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:11 AM (Zzbjj)

66 Did someone already mention that scum, Schwab, had a second heart attack?

So there is some good news.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 02, 2022 11:12 AM (DcKNO)

67 the country’s government has drawn up a raft of emergency measures aimed at reducing strain on the power grid for use in emergency scenarios.

Step 1: Create a fake emergency

Step 2: Enact draconian measures you've always wanted to do anyway because you are f*cking evil.

Step 3: Profit

Posted by: 18-1 at December 02, 2022 11:12 AM (ESjRY)

68 That fiend Ehrlich has a lot to answer for regarding this overpopulation bullshit.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 02, 2022 11:12 AM (Az2It)

69 43 What can we do to defang the evil billionaire philanthropaths?

338 Lapua has entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2022 11:09 AM (9uCBG)

416 Barrett has entered the chat.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at December 02, 2022 11:12 AM (53oGX)

70 Did someone already mention that scum, Schwab, had a second heart attack?

So there is some good news.
Posted by: Seems Legit at December 02, 2022 11:12 AM (DcKNO)
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Wouldn't surprise me if he started harvesting spare organs from third-world orphans...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (BpYfr)

71 So Klaus. Can you operate a shovel? No? Oh, you mean you won't operate a shovel? Take this number and go stand in the other line.

Posted by: Eromero at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (/knpl)

72 Well, there's really only one option when the time comes. Right?

Posted by: SaltyD at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (UohIj)

73 The very remedy for these bastards is what strikes at the heart of old school Republicans - and as such will never fly. But here it is ...

... the idea of the publicly owned corporation itself has to go. All it does it provide a legal shield of invincibility for the ultra-wealthy. As well as massive opportunities for graft.

Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (66r+l)

74 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:05 AM (+hI+T)

Yeah, his posture looks like my grandpa. Who's 98.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (nC+QA)

75 The Twilight Zone episode 'The Obsolete Man' has crossed my mind for some reason.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 02, 2022

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Fritz Weaver always made the perfect totalitarian bureaucrat or spy, didn't he? He played the villain Andrew Vulcan in the pilot for U.N.C.L.E., and the target of the Impossible Missions Force in their early script "Rogosh." Strangely, I think he also played Sherlock Holmes in the 1960s musical Broadway show.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (J2vNu)

76 If old Klaus did have another heart attack and was very disabled wouldn't he at 84 be one of those people who should be assisted with suicide?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (muTXm)

77 By the way, if I were a 2nd tier 2024 Presidential candidate of either party, I would make it a sworn campaign promise to unseal and release the Epstein records.

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"Presidential Candidate Buck Throckmorton Didn't Kill Himself."

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (K3TEc)

78 58 On the plus side more and more of the left is going gay or tranny.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM (ESjRY)

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This is the thing. The cultural push to make people gay and to castrate themselves in the name of custom sexual genders is largely affecting the left. It's killing their ability to create a new generation after this one.

The made up for their lifeless decisions through the 60s by taking over the education system, but that control seems to be somewhat curtailed and in retreat. I think they expect to be able to convert the whole of the American population to their thinking, but it's pretty obvious that it's not working. There's a difference between, "Just live your life for you," and, "You have to suck the tranny dick."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (LvTSG)

79 Well traditionally, the path goes from democracy to oligarchy to dictator (or tyranny). Only naked force and slaughter works against money.

Just need to pick a good tyrant and hope.
And then overthrow him or his descendants.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (xcxpd)

80 If current trends hold, which I doubt they will, Nigeria will have something like 800M people this century.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM

That's a whole lot of Nigerian Prince's that will want to send me money.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (uNylN)

81 Those evil monsters are actively planning dystopia. But they will make the world safe for billionaires.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 02, 2022 11:14 AM (eGTCV)

82 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:14 AM (vf0Uk)

83 Also;

Are we now officially over mocking my suggestion from a couple of years ago of at least 10k rounds per able bodied household member? I think we are.

Beans, bullets, and bandaids. And batteries... especially ones you can recharge easily with small solar setups. And radios, spare parts, fuel storage, water storage and filtration. Alternate heat sources is going to be a big one.

Shit is still available, do it.

Posted by: somedood at December 02, 2022 11:14 AM (QBv/U)

84 76 If old Klaus did have another heart attack and was very disabled wouldn't he at 84 be one of those people who should be assisted with suicide?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (muTXm)

The line of people wanting to provide that assistance would be a long one

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:14 AM (Zzbjj)

85

I invite Yuval Harari to take a leap into Kilauea. However, the reaction of the hottest thing in nature meeting one of the coldest - his heart - might be enough to crack the planet open and destroy it.

Bastard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (x0n13)

86 You really cant say what needs to be done with people like Soros, Schwab, Harari, et al in polite company.

But until that time comes, the best thing you can do is find out who is allied with them, and shun them and their products. These asshats thrive on public adoration and self-importance so make it clear by voice and deed that you reject everything and everyone they are associated with.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (tBR6g)

87 The Strategic Services S***** S******* Field Manual is a great read for times like this.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (OgrpQ)

88 John Kirby saying over and over again: Apple is private and can do what it wants (while investigating private company Twitter)….. big corporations and rich guys are generally my enemy. It’s almost like I belong in the old Dem party circa 1970s

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (xT8gx)

89 What Can We Do To Counter the Power of Billionaire Philanthropaths?

*types*

*remembers TGQI*

*thinks otherwise*

*deletes*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (vf0Uk)

90 Wouldn't surprise me if he started harvesting spare organs from third-world orphans...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM

Nah he buy's his replacement organs from the Chinese, much cheaper there.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (uNylN)

91 You camp out on their front lawns with a large crowd of people blasting loud music chanting. Make yourself appear to be a “threatening” presence so they’ll fear for their lives. Basically do a lot of what the left does. Put yourselves at risk.

Not what we do though. We come up with sound political /legislative solutions then project them on to non existent politicians or current flavor of the month pols. Then we choose sides of a particular politician in comment sections of blogs, talk shit and attack one another whether said politician actually harbors said beliefs of a particular commenter or not. Doesn’t matter, projection and fantasy is the rule.👍

Posted by: JROD at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (AtoNk)

92 62 Watch this video. It's very topical to the current thread.

Conspiracy theories cease being theories when they are happening.

https://tinyurl.com/2dbnb65k
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:11 AM (ZLI7S)

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Of course, JFK was killed by the CIA. Bush senior was not the director at the time, but he has been the director and he's a globalist butt buddy.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (DcKNO)

93 Lead by example WEF... depopulate yourselves and prove to the rest of us how much better life will be.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (Q4IgG)

94 There aren't 9 billion people. There are less than 8 billion.

That is correct, but peak planet pop is (or at least recently was) predicted as 9B.

And all of the growth over the past few decades has been in the third and developing worlds. If we're going to be getting rid of people to get us to the "right" number, you have to kill a whole lot of brown people.

Unless they do what other pops worldwide have done, and stop having lots of babies when women are educated and their economy improves. You're assuming we'll get rid of people in the short term, while I'm arguing that we are naturally limiting pop growth.

The first world is simply not growing anymore. The solution to unrestrained population growth is economic success to the point where people don't need a bunch of kids to help create personal wealth through their labor.

Agree.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (eOEVl)

95
Just need to pick a good tyrant and hope.

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In this case, a good tyrant should have pits full of specially trained rape dogs, thousands of professional knouters, and fleets of Oldsmobile Rocket 88s to use as black marias. Also, a white military uniform with a cool sash.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (oINRc)

96 the GOP is acting like they just saw the first forward pass

wut da fook uz dat ??

too late, sucker

Posted by: REDACTED at December 02, 2022 11:16 AM (us2H3)

97 Those evil monsters are actively planning dystopia. But they will make the world safe for billionaires.

I've seen a few analyses of how they plan to keep their private security forces in line after the great reset

I don't think its going to work.

Bezos and co think they are going to be the new nobility. I tend to think it was be Amoral Joe, Former Special Forces guy, that is heading up Jeff's Security team...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 02, 2022 11:16 AM (ESjRY)

98 We are a nation of government mercenaries.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2022 11:05 AM (6Dtba)

Becky needs braces, dontchaknow. And the latest iPhone? Gotta have it!

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at December 02, 2022 11:16 AM (l7Kbv)

99 In this case, a good tyrant should have pits full of specially trained rape dogs, thousands of professional knouters, and fleets of Oldsmobile Rocket 88s to use as black marias. Also, a white military uniform with a cool sash.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (oINRc)

sorry, I aint doing it

Posted by: REDACTED at December 02, 2022 11:16 AM (us2H3)

100
If only we had a hacker with the ability to drain his entire bank account and holdings and transfer title to a few million bank accounts across the planet.

Heh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 02, 2022 11:17 AM (x0n13)

101 94 That is correct, but peak planet pop is (or at least recently was) predicted as 9B.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (eOEVl)

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Didn't the Edwardians believe that the Earth couldn't support more than something like 500 million?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:17 AM (LvTSG)

102 That's a whole lot of Nigerian Prince's that will want to send me money.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 02, 2022 11:13 AM (uNylN)

Gonna need a bigger data center...

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 02, 2022 11:17 AM (MkuC5)

103 But if I am chosen for removal from the planet by the WEF, or if Bill Gates tries to block out the sunlight that keeps us all alive, I could quickly become receptive to any action to stop these madmen. My principles adapt quickly when dealing with people who want me and my family dead.

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It's not that your (our) principles are adapting so much as you (we) have -- and should have -- a value hierarchy, and that you (we) are choosing to protect higher values at the expense of lower ones in that hierarchy -- as you (we) should do.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 11:17 AM (K3TEc)

104 Easy fix - nuke China, India and Africa.
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 02, 2022 11:08 AM (xSnmX)

1. I believe that China's population is already decreasing, or plateauing.
2. All you have to do to Africa is leave them alone and any population issues they have will solve themselves.
3. Frankly, India's population issue would solve itself as well if we slowed the importation of them to the rest of the world.

No violence from us required at all.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at December 02, 2022 11:17 AM (1Z8zZ)

105 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Sorry I'm late. Quick answer here...5kt, no. Make it 10kt at the next Davos. Should do the trick.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2022 11:17 AM (anj39)

106 What is that movie where the rich live on a artificial platform circling earth? That is what they want

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 02, 2022 11:17 AM (dO/0d)

107 The solution comes straight from Obama: at some point you've made enough money. Just tax the living shit out of these motherfuckers until there's nothing left. Confiscate any "excess" wealth. I too am opposed to this. But you know what? FUCK THEM.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 02, 2022 11:17 AM (iFTx/)

108 Someone could start up a charter helicopter service to Davos.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 02, 2022 11:18 AM (Az2It)

109 101 94 That is correct, but peak planet pop is (or at least recently was) predicted as 9B.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (eOEVl)

You mean like a 1.7C temp rise in the next 100 years?

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 02, 2022 11:18 AM (MkuC5)

110
For some reason I just started humming La Marseillaise. Dangedest thing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

4th verse...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 02, 2022 11:18 AM (n+4am)

111 Didn't the Edwardians believe that the Earth couldn't support more than something like 500 million?

I don't know, but that sounds reasonable. Obviously they were wrong, but that doesn't mean the pop should grow indefinitely.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:18 AM (eOEVl)

112 - Since the world is greatly overpopulated there will ultimately be starvation and mass death.

- The only way to prevent future mass death is...

- Do it now!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2022 11:18 AM (B24oH)

113 106 What is that movie where the rich live on a artificial platform circling earth? That is what they want
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 02, 2022 11:17 AM (dO/0d)

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Elysium. I've been meaning to watch it again. I didn't like it the first time, but I'm not sure if I trust my reaction back then.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:18 AM (LvTSG)

114 Zelensky just banned the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

He has now banned political opposition parties, unfriendly media organizations and thrown political opponents in jail.

Remind me again why Putin is the bad guy and we are fighting to save liberal democracy.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (ZLI7S)

115 The solution comes straight from Obama: at some point you've made enough money. Just tax the living shit out of these motherfuckers until there's nothing left. Confiscate any "excess" wealth. I too am opposed to this. But you know what? FUCK THEM.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 02, 2022 11:17 AM (iFTx/)

The concept is great, but all this does is make GOVERNMENT more rich and powerful and THAT is a NEGATIVE for humanity.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (vf0Uk)

116 I think I see a path to agreement with the Klaus Klowns.

We eliminate the population who believes in killing us, forcing the survivors to eat bugs, and wants to make our world colder. Then, we eat meat and heat our homes, who thriving in a carbon-energy economy!

Voila. Everyone gets what they want.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (SdTBz)

117 Frankly, India's population issue would solve itself as well if we slowed the importation of them to the rest of the world.

I read this morning that their current fertility rate is 2.2. Replacement is 2.1.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (eOEVl)

118 CNN is still 24/7 on the wheels are closing in

Posted by: REDACTED at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (us2H3)

119 The concept is great, but all this does is make GOVERNMENT more rich and powerful and THAT is a NEGATIVE for humanity.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (vf0Uk)

Oh they will just pay down the deficit... promise.

lol, lol, lol, lol, lol

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (53oGX)

120 111 Didn't the Edwardians believe that the Earth couldn't support more than something like 500 million?

I don't know, but that sounds reasonable. Obviously they were wrong, but that doesn't mean the pop should grow indefinitely.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:18 AM (eOEVl)

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"But this time, the science is right."

The simple fact of the matter is we don't know how many people will be able to feed with future advances in technology.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (LvTSG)

121 The solution to unrestrained population growth is economic success to the point where people don't need a bunch of kids to help create personal wealth through their labor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:11 AM (LvTSG)

Yeah. And the overlooked key to general economic success is security of property. Knowing that the next passing pol or thug won't simply take what you worked for encourages people to do the work.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (nC+QA)

122 Schwab and Yuval What's his name might not experience the New Heaven and the new earth when it comes.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (eGTCV)

123 114 Zelensky just banned the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

He has now banned political opposition parties, unfriendly media organizations and thrown political opponents in jail.

Remind me again why Putin is the bad guy and we are fighting to save liberal democracy.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (ZLI7S)

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We are simpatico today.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (DcKNO)

124 104 Easy fix - nuke China, India and Africa.
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 02, 2022 11:08 AM (xSnmX)

1. I believe that China's population is already decreasing, or plateauing.
2. All you have to do to Africa is leave them alone and any population issues they have will solve themselves.
3. Frankly, India's population issue would solve itself as well if we slowed the importation of them to the rest of the world.

No violence from us required at all.
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That requires patience and self discipline. Have you ever seen patience and self discipline?

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (xSnmX)

125 Please people, just stop with any wealth tax ideas. These mega billionaires own the lawmakers and will have carve-outs that protect THEM, while the gub'mint drones get authorized to confiscate the lifetime wealth accumulation of ordinary small business owners.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (3cGpq)

126 included in the government’s power saving scheme is a ban on the use of electric cars for non-essential purposes.

Ich lach mich kaputt!

Posted by: spindrift at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (h5TKJ)

127 Are we now officially over mocking my suggestion from a couple of years ago of at least 10k rounds per able bodied household member? I think we are.

I never mocked it - but I don't see how you move 10k rounds of ammunition. And if you have to fire 10k rounds of ammunition, you're not going to make it. Neither is your house. Or anything short of an armor faced bunker.

But look around. Just imagine everything stopping for thirty days. I'm going longer on beans and water and wood, and a little lighter on the ammo.

Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (66r+l)

128 CNN is still 24/7 on the wheels are closing in
Posted by: REDACTED at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (us2H3)

Meh. Let me know when the walls start falling off. THEN I'll care.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (vf0Uk)

129 Archimedes - What do you mean by “naturally” limiting population? I don’t like the sound of that at all…. Why should we think we can control world population any more than we can control world climate?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (xT8gx)

130 121 Yeah. And the overlooked key to general economic success is security of property. Knowing that the next passing pol or thug won't simply take what you worked for encourages people to do the work.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (nC+QA)

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They didn't overlook it. They're not looking for a slowdown in growth. They're looking for an active decrease.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (LvTSG)

131 You mean like a 1.7C temp rise in the next 100 years?

Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Good one.
*rolls eyes*

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (eOEVl)

132 On the plus side more and more of the left is going gay or tranny.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 02, 2022 11:10 AM (ESjRY)

And we need more migrants because Americans aren't having babies. -- the Left

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (1Z8zZ)

133 Elysium. I've been meaning to watch it again. I didn't like it the first time, but I'm not sure if I trust my reaction back then.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:18 AM (LvTSG)

Ya, just watched last week. Whole different response to the movie now as apposed to when it first came out.
*looks to see if Airburst rounds are available in 7.62x39*

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at December 02, 2022 11:21 AM (OgrpQ)

134 And, for fun, objections to Buck’s list of solutions:
Trustbusting - Requires a non-compromised Justice system. The Oligarchs have proven able to subvert or avoid the law by simply donating cash to Democrats

Block Major Mergers & Acquisitions - Once again the problem is money. Lobbying or regulatory capture can and do neuter control. Frankly they don’t need to merge companies, it’s useful for ‘keeping score’ but they’re already a multinational menace as is.

State Attorney Generals / Special Prosecutors / Lawfare: - Again, requires just officials. And again, subverted by just donating money to Democrats.

Release the Epstein Records: - requires media and intel agencies to be just and honest. I’ll just wait here, holding my breath for that. More, the worst offenders of the Oligarchs aren’t in Epstein’s books. They have their own sources for trim or young ass.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 02, 2022 11:21 AM (xcxpd)

135 There will always be men who view themselves as gods.

Knock down these tyrants, new tyrants will emerge.

All you can do is handle your day-to-day business in a manner befitting of your values and morals.

The strong do as they will, the weak endure what they must.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:22 AM (KbCG3)

136 I apologize Mr Fleming, you were actually underselling it to make it seem less ridiculous then it really is.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 02, 2022 11:03 AM (ESjRY)

Quantum of Solace disaster was about half as bad as what actually happened to Bolivia a few years later. Now they don't do plots that threaten the King's government.

Of course Ian Fleming was a generation that thought that money being inflated would be a grave crime and a terrible sin, unlike current pols.

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at December 02, 2022 11:22 AM (44ww/)

137 You are more likely to read “The Conservative Case for Command and Control of the Global Economy” from Conservative, Inc. than you are to see a think piece from them on how to stop Klaus Schwab’s diabolical agenda.

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*types* *deletes*

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (K3TEc)

138 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 02, 2022 11:15 AM (tBR6g)

The Schwab Harari connection is a weird one. I wonder how old Harari was when Schwab "deflowered" him? I suspect Schwab is a sexual pedo as well as interested in the Conboy Lab School of blood transfusions.

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (Zzbjj)

139
Tax tables are tied to income already earned. Every year they go up one percent on earnings over ten million dollars. At the age of 60 the effective tax rate is ~50% on people who have already earned ten million.

Adjusted for inflation every year so it never effects the middle class.

Posted by: Ned Beatty at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (enJYY)

140 Didn't the Edwardians believe that the Earth couldn't support more than something like 500 million?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Back when it took a week to plow 40 acres? Probably.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (9uCBG)

141 111 Didn't the Edwardians believe that the Earth couldn't support more than something like 500 million?

I don't know, but that sounds reasonable. Obviously they were wrong, but that doesn't mean the pop should grow indefinitely.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:18 AM (eOEVl)
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I've seen estimates that the world could support up to 100 billion people. We have VAST areas of untapped agricultural potential, but don't have the distribution network to feed that many at the moment.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (BpYfr)

142 The entire goal of the WEF is population control. These are the same eugenics enthusiasts that came up with the global warming/climate change scam for the same purpose, shrink the population because the earth can't sustain our current growth pace. They are also behind the pandemic response, vaccines, travel passports and soon digital currency.

If you support limiting the population growth you are doing it wrong.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (ZLI7S)

143 Archimedes - What do you mean by “naturally” limiting population? I don’t like the sound of that at all…. Why should we think we can control world population any more than we can control world climate?

Nothing nefarious. What I mean is people choosing to limit the size of their families, so that the population doesn't continue to grow, and in fact gradually declines. The tricky bit is to achieve population equilibrium.

The simple fact of the matter is we don't know how many people will be able to feed with future advances in technology.

Quite right. My point was that we've destroyed much of the animal habitat worldwide in order to feed ourselves. I'd like to see a better balance.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (eOEVl)

144 Buy guns and buy ammo. The time is coming at an accelerated pace.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (u4CEu)

145 Nukes, the cause of, and the solution to, all of our problems.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (FVME7)

146
The strong do as they will, the weak endure what they must.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:22 AM (KbCG3)

Fuck that shit, knock down these tyrants!

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (Zzbjj)

147 I think I just got Jehovah Witnessed. Usually I have time to tell them I'm Catholic but these were fast.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (+3jTj)

148 To decrease the population you have to get as many people into the middle class as possible. Birth rates drop when this occurs. Thearrogant elite want it to be them and everyone else, only two classes.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 02, 2022 11:24 AM (muTXm)

149 Interestingly, Warren Buffett wrote something that was right on target regarding philanthropies; they shouldn't be perpetual, because the wealth generated by future generations should be enough to take care of the problems that spring up then. For now, all the money should be given away - and given out - as close to the donor's lifetime as possible. Perpetual philanthropic organizations shouldn't exist.

His actions since writing that, of course, put the lie to everything he said then. Still doesn't mean that he's wrong, but that he couldn't follow through with his initial convictions.

Much, much worse than the actual philanthropath is the organization left behind. The conservative Olin Foundation dissolved after disbursing its funds, but that's pretty much the only one. All others want to live - and harm - forever.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 11:24 AM (9miN6)

150 "Ad" between the content and comments asks "Who was the better first lady?" with pictures of Michelle Obama and Barry Obama.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 02, 2022 11:24 AM (a3Q+t)

151 But look around. Just imagine everything stopping for thirty days. I'm going longer on beans and water and wood, and a little lighter on the ammo.

Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (66r+l)

Not that hard to move 10,000 rounds, bruh.

Unless we're talking .88s.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 02, 2022 11:25 AM (MkuC5)

152 When the Germans briefly had a colony in South West Africa (now Namibia) they were also very concerned about the natives despoiling the landscape and ruining the habitat. In what turned out to be practice for what was to come, the German Colonial Administration in 1904 began the first great Genocide of the 20th century, exterminating about 100,000 of the Herero and Namaqua peoples, mainly for the crimes of existing and annoying their new German overlords. Similarly, in what is now Tanzania, the Germans instituted a "war (the Maji-Maji uprising) in which there were 15 white casualties and possibly 300,000 African dead. (the Germans didn't bother counting)

wanting to get rid of those pesky Africans is nothing new for the Euros.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 11:25 AM (trdmm)

153 Can't we just kill all the Democrats to save the Planet?

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 02, 2022 11:25 AM (xSnmX)

154 ----
I've seen estimates that the world could support up to 100 billion people. We have VAST areas of untapped agricultural potential, but don't have the distribution network to feed that many at the moment.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (BpYfr)

God told us to go forth and dominate the Earth as it was his gift to us. The Earth has infinite resources for us to use. As it provides, we learn how to get it to provide more.

It's the ego of the rich and powerful that will destroy US so they can have MORE of what Earth provides because THEY are the Seven Deadlies incarnate.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:25 AM (vf0Uk)

155 I thought all the records Brian Epstein produced had already been released.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 02, 2022 11:25 AM (Az2It)

156 I think I just got Jehovah Witnessed. Usually I have time to tell them I'm Catholic but these were fast.
Posted by: banana Dream

You have to move faster with that cross. Next time it could be a vampire.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2022 11:25 AM (9uCBG)

157 Cill my landlord!

C-I-L-L!!

Posted by: Eddie Murphy at December 02, 2022 11:25 AM (Y/dpY)

158 If you support limiting the population growth you are doing it wrong.

Depends on what you mean by "limiting". If you mean artificially or by force, I agree. If, like me, you think there are too many people, and a natural, voluntary decline in pop is desirable, there is nothing sinister about it.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:25 AM (eOEVl)

159 "Because of “my principals,” I used to be opposed to lawfare, but it isn’t going away and it’s constantly used against conservatives, so maybe it’s time we use lawfare against our foes."
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YES.
The same principle should apply to vote harvesting. An awful lot of conservatives are appalled at the idea we should use either tactic. To my mind, they are like those who thought we shouldn't use crossbows or submarines.

In general, a lot of the above can be found in G K Chesterton. Note that he always thought of himself as leftwing. But his brother came to the conclusion, early on, that Gilbert was really a kind of old fashioned Tory.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (TgBWG)

160 146
The strong do as they will, the weak endure what they must.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:22 AM (KbCG3)

Fuck that shit, knock down these tyrants!
Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (Zzbjj)

Will the world ever be free of tyrants?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (KbCG3)

161
Quite right. My point was that we've destroyed much of the animal habitat worldwide in order to feed ourselves. I'd like to see a better balance.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (eOEVl)

And we'll destroy a lot more by denying the use of fossil fuels and fertilizers. The wood will go to heat and many more acres of habitat will be needed to farm "organically".

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (Zzbjj)

162 125 Please people, just stop with any wealth tax ideas. These mega billionaires own the lawmakers and will have carve-outs that protect THEM, while the gub'mint drones get authorized to confiscate the lifetime wealth accumulation of ordinary small business owners.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (3cGpq)

Trusts already exist as a carveout for the wealthy.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (eYoxG)

163 127 Are we now officially over mocking my suggestion from a couple of years ago of at least 10k rounds per able bodied household member? I think we are.

I never mocked it - but I don't see how you move 10k rounds of ammunition. And if you have to fire 10k rounds of ammunition, you're not going to make it. Neither is your house. Or anything short of an armor faced bunker.

But look around. Just imagine everything stopping for thirty days. I'm going longer on beans and water and wood, and a little lighter on the ammo.

Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (66r+l)

You don't have a car?
And if you're fighting from your home, you're doing it wrong. Or you're living in the wrong place (get out of the cities)

That aside, yes, food and water is just as important as ammo for a 30 day interregnum.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (xcxpd)

164 I never mocked it - but I don't see how you move 10k rounds of ammunition. And if you have to fire 10k rounds of ammunition, you're not going to make it. Neither is your house. Or anything short of an armor faced bunker.

But look around. Just imagine everything stopping for thirty days. I'm going longer on beans and water and wood, and a little lighter on the ammo.

Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM

If you got stuff the hungry mob wants they are going to get it. You might take a bunch of them out before they get you but if you got stuff they want, they are eventually going to get it. Plus one molotov cocktail and all of your stuff and yourself probably are gone.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (uNylN)

165 154 Absolutely right. Preach it, Sponge.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (Az2It)

166 143 - Yes, any solution/approach should be freedom-based. No coercion. I honestly have never worried about overpopulation…. Didn’t some nit publish a book in the 70s “The Population Bomb” which turned out to be totally wrong? 50 years ago…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (xT8gx)

167 160 Will the world ever be free of tyrants?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (KbCG3)

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No, and to think otherwise is Utopian.

We cannot create paradise on earth. We should not try.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (LvTSG)

168 >>Depends on what you mean by "limiting". If you mean artificially or by force, I agree. If, like me, you think there are too many people, and a natural, voluntary decline in pop is desirable, there is nothing sinister about it.

And why do you think there are too many people?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (ZLI7S)

169
Will the world ever be free of tyrants?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (KbCG3)

Only when there's no one left.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:27 AM (vf0Uk)

170 We can't fight billionaires but they can fight each other.
Turn a negative into a positive. Think of old time *Robber Barons*.

Elon Musk is also a philanthropath in the old tradition.
Promote and environment that encourages more Musk's.
Let emulating him become a fad - other billionaires who are now in the closet become players.

Let the duels begin.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 11:27 AM (5TmO/)

171 This evil is right out in the open.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 02, 2022 11:27 AM (eGTCV)

172 The strong do as they will, the weak endure what they must.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:22 AM (KbCG3)

Fuck that shit, knock down these tyrants!
Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (Zzbjj)

Will the world ever be free of tyrants?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (KbCG3)

Well they're like insects. They will be around as long as the world is around. But you still need to swat them when they bite you.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 02, 2022 11:27 AM (xcxpd)

173 167 160 Will the world ever be free of tyrants?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (KbCG3)

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No, and to think otherwise is Utopian.

We cannot create paradise on earth. We should not try.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (LvTSG)

Thank you.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:27 AM (KbCG3)

174 When the Germans briefly had a colony in South West Africa (now Namibia) they were also very concerned about the natives despoiling the landscape and ruining the habitat.

Riiiiight. Those that hadn't invented the wheel in 50,000 years were somehow going to spoil the landscape.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2022 11:27 AM (9uCBG)

175 147 I think I just got Jehovah Witnessed. Usually I have time to tell them I'm Catholic but these were fast.
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Pull out a Ouija Board next time.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 02, 2022 11:27 AM (xSnmX)

176 Will the world ever be free of tyrants?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (KbCG3)

Probably not, but I'd like to go back to more local tyrants, like Castro, not this globally organized international type. The local ones are easier to isolate and destroy.

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:27 AM (Zzbjj)

177
Bezos and co think they are going to be the new nobility. I tend to think it was be Amoral Joe, Former Special Forces guy, that is heading up Jeff's Security team...
Posted by: 18-1

Which reminds me, I need to re-read John Ringo's Black Tide Rising series...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (n+4am)

178 Absolutely right. Preach it, Sponge.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (Az2It)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (vf0Uk)

179 Nikolai and his old lady didn't know either. Until the fucked around and found out.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (pOlJX)

180 162 Trusts already exist as a carveout for the wealthy.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (eYoxG)

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I have a trust, and I'm not that wealthy. I had to get it in SC because it makes estate planning a whole lot easier. If Dolley and I died without the trust, everything goes through probate courts, even with a will.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (LvTSG)

181 TJM, you live in Charleston, right? Ever make it to Columbia? Would love to grab a beer sometime.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (KbCG3)

182 And why do you think there are too many people?

I've already answered that twice. Because I think we've compromised the ability of other species to share the planet.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (eOEVl)

183 170 We can't fight billionaires but they can fight each other.
Turn a negative into a positive. Think of old time *Robber Barons*.

Elon Musk is also a philanthropath in the old tradition.
Promote and environment that encourages more Musk's.
Let emulating him become a fad - other billionaires who are now in the closet become players.

Let the duels begin.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 11:27 AM (5TmO/)

Yes, an Oligarch can fight an Oligarch. But that's just another way of finding or supporting a tyrant/king. Too much overthrow of power and people will yearn for stability over freedom.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (xcxpd)

184 The foot solders for the philanthropathes are the students and fresh-out-trust babies.

The universities and colleges have to be convinced that their job is to teach not to indoctrinate.

Take all endowments and give them to their State's general fund.
Yes, this will fuel the blue States, but, only for a short time given their spend rates. The long term results will be schools that teach and unemployed academics/groomers.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (sOWoL)

185 181 TJM, you live in Charleston, right? Ever make it to Columbia? Would love to grab a beer sometime.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (KbCG3)

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I have driven through that ugly little strip of Hwy 1 that connects 26 to 20 a bunch of times. That's about the only time I get to Columbia.

I wouldn't mind a beer, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:29 AM (LvTSG)

186 They didn't overlook it. They're not looking for a slowdown in growth. They're looking for an active decrease.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (LvTSG)

Oh, I didn't mean overlooked by the WEF types. Especially since they're the exact people everyone else needs to be protected from.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 02, 2022 11:29 AM (nC+QA)

187 180 162 Trusts already exist as a carveout for the wealthy.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (eYoxG)

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I have a trust, and I'm not that wealthy. I had to get it in SC because it makes estate planning a whole lot easier. If Dolley and I died without the trust, everything goes through probate courts, even with a will.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (LvTSG)

In most places they're too much work/expense to be worth doing for most people.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:29 AM (eYoxG)

188 for all the bloodletting at CNN, I fail to see any difference in their coverage

Posted by: REDACTED at December 02, 2022 11:29 AM (us2H3)

189 As humanity moves further toward a post-carbon future[,] people must accept that things like eating meat and property ownership is simply unsustainable.
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Just like it was in the pre-carbon past where the peasants lived on the estate and couldn't afford protein, huh?

I love statements like this. "It's happening. There is nothing you can do. Accept it. Love it. Bow to your masters." Well I have two things to say to Klaus Schwab:
1. You first
2. Fuck you

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 11:29 AM (t0OGg)

190 Didn’t some nit publish a book in the 70s “The Population Bomb” which turned out to be totally wrong? 50 years ago…
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It worked on white people who read it and watched it discussed on TeeVee. Not so much on the rest of the world.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 02, 2022 11:30 AM (xSnmX)

191 Justin Castreau has a part time job as Schwab's pool boy.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 02, 2022 11:30 AM (eGTCV)

192 Please people, just stop with any wealth tax ideas. These mega billionaires own the lawmakers and will have carve-outs that protect THEM, while the gub'mint drones get authorized to confiscate the lifetime wealth accumulation of ordinary small business owners.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 02, 2022 11:20 AM (3cGpq)

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The Alternative Millionaire Tax sounds great ... until hyperinflation raises the minimum wage to $10,000/hour.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 11:30 AM (K3TEc)

193 As I've said numerous times here, the ultimate goal of the Left is the complete eradication of humankind from the face of the Earth. They see humans as a blight upon nature. They just want to be the last ones to go.

The flaw in their argument is that three million years later, cats evolve to take over the world. Nobody wants to see that happen.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 11:30 AM (BpYfr)

194 Didn’t some nit publish a book in the 70s “The Population Bomb” which turned out to be totally wrong? 50 years ago…

Paul Ehrlich.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:30 AM (eOEVl)

195 A Bill Gates Venture Aims To Spray Dust Into The Atmosphere To Block The Sun. What Could Go Wrong? [Forbes - January 2021]
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My biggest fear is that they try something like this. It could possibly work, and it would destroy the planet. If you think heat is bad, try cold.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 11:30 AM (t0OGg)

196 187 In most places they're too much work/expense to be worth doing for most people.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:29 AM (eYoxG)

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One meeting with a lawyer who set it up, then we just had to make the trust the beneficiary of our retirement accounts.

At least in SC, it seemed easy enough.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:30 AM (LvTSG)

197
I have a trust, and I'm not that wealthy. I had to get it in SC because it makes estate planning a whole lot easier. If Dolley and I died without the trust, everything goes through probate courts, even with a will.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM

Same here and I don't consider the two of us "wealthy" by any means. But I don't want the friggin government siphoning off money from our estate just because they can. What we have, we want our son to get it, all of it and not have to have some Judge skim off the top before he gets the $$$.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 02, 2022 11:30 AM (uNylN)

198 ==========

I have a trust, and I'm not that wealthy. I had to get it in SC because it makes estate planning a whole lot easier. If Dolley and I died without the trust, everything goes through probate courts, even with a will.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (LvTSG)

This. Everyone should have a trust. But then the government would figure out that it benefits the people and change the laws. Probating of wills, which requires a judge, takes 12 to 18 months currently, at least in Texas. Screw that.

We just created a trust for my dad and step-mom. It was a one time up front cost that will benefit the beneficiaries tremendously when the time comes.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:31 AM (vf0Uk)

199 What can we do against these people?

Stop thinking that they are people. And not only make them not relevant any longer, cause future generations of tyrants to walk softly and not draw attention to themselves.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 02, 2022 11:31 AM (4olE8)

200 What to do?

Well, we can't say if we want Ace to keep his blog.
Posted by: XTC at December 02, 2022 11:02 AM (UnA8+)
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This.
Although a great "practical joke" would be to fly several hundred drones over their private jets as they all get ready to leave the next WEF forum. Watch 'em shit their pants.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2022 11:31 AM (anj39)

201 I love statements like this. "It's happening. There is nothing you can do. Accept it. Love it. Bow to your masters." Well I have two things to say to Klaus Schwab:
1. You first
2. Fuck you
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 11:29 AM (t0OGg)

Yes! And I hope he dies from his heart attacks, then Soros, then a few more. Harari and his husband are still young, but without Schwab, he's some weird gay guy hating on "breeders"

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:31 AM (Zzbjj)

202 Most people have no use according to the WEF.

They need to find G-d. *Every* person has a use, of some kind, to someone - even if only to himself. Economically, some people are more valuable than others but that doesn't mean the economically less-valuable have no human worth. A man's actions can degrade his state of worth (murderers, dictators, etc), but his state of being is not valueless.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (t0OGg)

203 In most places they're too much work/expense to be worth doing for most people.
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Is there any advantage in creating a trust for yourself to side step IRAs and other approved government savings plans/tax law?

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (xSnmX)

204 Call in an airstrike next time they meet in Davos.

Posted by: mr tmz at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (rJ48h)

205 @194 Archimedes-you have kids and a spouse?

Posted by: JROD at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (AtoNk)

206 TJM, you live in Charleston, right? Ever make it to Columbia? Would love to grab a beer sometime.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (KbCG3)

Just don't ask him if he'll drive to Myrtle Beach to get one.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (vf0Uk)

207 Paul Erlich, Obama's science advisor.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (AXxfu)

208 I've seen estimates that the world could support up to 100 billion people. We have VAST areas of untapped agricultural potential, but don't have the distribution network to feed that many at the moment.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 11:23 AM (BpYfr)

The earth is really, really big. We don't get perspective on that because there are many planets and systems which are so much bigger. I read somewhere that if the current world's population was packed as densely as a city like Hong Kong, we could fit everyone in an area the size of one of the US states. If that's the case, there are a lot of resources left to be utilized here on planet Earth.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (9miN6)

209 Zelensky just banned the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

He has now banned political opposition parties, unfriendly media organizations and thrown political opponents in jail.

Remind me again why Putin is the bad guy and we are fighting to save liberal democracy.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (ZLI7S)
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"He may be a corrupt, dictatorial, WEF clownworld puppet ... but dammit, he's OUR corrupt, dictatorial, WEF clownworld puppet!"

/

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (K3TEc)

210 The flaw in their argument is that three million years later, cats evolve to take over the world.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 11:30 AM (BpYfr)

Ya think so, huh?

Posted by: The Otters at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (cupoy)

211
I think in the end (again as I always say, in about forty more years), these people will find they've made a terrible mistake.

These plutocrats are of the same Left who's demonized them for a hundred years. They think they can keep that internal tension under control, but they are WRONG.

And in the meantime, they have managed to alienate the political Right and the middle classes who once supported their interests to the the point where we, too, are saying "ok nevermind bring out the tumbrils."

There will come a time when people like Schwab, Soros, et. al. will see Birnam Wood come to Dunsinane and find they don't have a friend in the world.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (oINRc)

212 206 Just don't ask him if he'll drive to Myrtle Beach to get one.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (vf0Uk)

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I'd go for Doof.

Because Doof must be destroyed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:33 AM (LvTSG)

213 There are plenty of other species on this planet. They’re discovering new ones all the time, even large ones. This whole idea of an ongoing manmade extinction event is horseshit.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 02, 2022 11:33 AM (Az2It)

214 To stop the robber barons? Enforcing monopoly law (on your list) and prosecuting criminality among the elite (on your list) would do it.

But they bought the agencies and offices that enforce monopoly law or prosecute crime.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 11:33 AM (t0OGg)

215 Now that we have billions off of the billions of Earth's inhabitants, you can all die. You are no longer needed.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 02, 2022 11:33 AM (lf83v)

216 Oh, so Mother Nature needs a favor?! Well, maybe she should have thought of that when she was besetting us with droughts and floods and poison monkeys. Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing? Well, I say hard cheese.

Posted by: Monty Burns at December 02, 2022 11:33 AM (h5TKJ)

217 Justin Castreau has a part time job as Schwab's pool boy.
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 02, 2022 11:30 AM (eGTCV)

That's a strange way to spell 'butt.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:33 AM (vf0Uk)

218 "I apologize Mr Fleming, you were actually underselling it to make it seem less ridiculous then it really is." Posted by: 18-1

Except the other part is, there are no white hats (Qanons?) in government working to save us ... No 007s ... or if they exist, they are Navy Seals sent off on dangerous missions, eliminated if necessary. (as in how DeepState is going after Oathkeepers?).

The "true blue" are eliminated from government, as we see how the real demons went after Trump and any associated with him, breaking every law and every standard (as in raiding his attorneys, or torturing guys like Manafort in solitary to force them to read a false story of "Trump crimes")

BigGov goes after heroes before they can get established, like they did to True the Vote from the outset. A few have survived, but are still persecuted by IRS and other "agencies" of the left.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 11:33 AM (Cus5s)

219 203 In most places they're too much work/expense to be worth doing for most people.
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Is there any advantage in creating a trust for yourself to side step IRAs and other approved government savings plans/tax law?
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (xSnmX)

It's mostly used to sidestep estate taxes afaik.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:33 AM (eYoxG)

220 >>> annoying their new German overlords. Similarly, in what is now Tanzania, the Germans instituted a "war (the Maji-Maji uprising) in which there were 15 white casualties and possibly 300,000 African dead. (the Germans didn't bother counting)

wanting to get rid of those pesky Africans is nothing new for the Euros.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Give it to the Brits.
Almost every nation of the Empire was left better off than before the Brits came. One might say that they are able to bitch today because of the Brits they survived and prospered.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 11:34 AM (5TmO/)

221
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I'd go for Doof.

Because Doof must be destroyed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:33 AM (LvTSG)

I suddenly feel better about you rejecting my invite.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:34 AM (vf0Uk)

222 Archimedes-you have kids and a spouse?

I do. It's people like me who are preventing the American birthrate from falling off a cliff. When I look at my extended family, without us, we wouldn't be anywhere close to replacement.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:34 AM (eOEVl)

223 Not that hard to move 10,000 rounds, bruh.

100 rounds of 5.56x45 weighs a little over 2.5 pounds. 10K rounds of the same would weight a little over 250 pounds.

So you're not going to back-pack it. Which means you're going to keep it in one place - your home or your bug-out spot. And if you're at a point where you really think you might use 10k rounds - I'd suggest you won't be jumping in the half-ton truck or jeep much, driving around, drawing attention to yourself, moving that shit around.

And if you're holed up in one spot, and get found, such that you need to cook off 10k rounds ... you're already screwed, bruh.

Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 11:34 AM (66r+l)

224 I have driven through that ugly little strip of Hwy 1 that connects 26 to 20 a bunch of times. That's about the only time I get to Columbia.

I wouldn't mind a beer, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:29 AM (LvTSG)

It's no Charleston but it does have beer.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (KbCG3)

225 30 caliber and above seems to be a good choice.

Posted by: Just John at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (M2PjX)

226 114 114 Zelensky just banned the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

He has now banned political opposition parties, unfriendly media organizations and thrown political opponents in jail.

Remind me again why Putin is the bad guy and we are fighting to save liberal democracy.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (ZLI7S)

There is no good guy.

They're both shit.

Posted by: XTC at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (UnA8+)

227 Quick comment so as not to turn this into a gun thread. I've maintained keeping double for each gun that you would use on a range visit, replace as used. If the SHTF, a standard battle load X3 for your AR or whatever, and replace as used. .22 rimfire, as much as you can afford. If you don't need it, someone else will.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (lz5hY)

228 175 147 I think I just got Jehovah Witnessed. Usually I have time to tell them I'm Catholic but these were fast.
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Pull out a Ouija Board next time.

need a ouija board doormat for the front porch

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (v3pYe)

229
God told us to go forth and dominate the Earth as it was his gift to us. The Earth has infinite resources for us to use. As it provides, we learn how to get it to provide more.

It's the ego of the rich and powerful that will destroy US so they can have MORE of what Earth provides because THEY are the Seven Deadlies incarnate.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:25 AM (vf0Uk)

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Nailed it.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (DcKNO)

230 How do you defeat these people? Say No to them. And keep saying No, no matter what happens.

"Eeet zee boogs!" No.

"We'll make it so the only thing you can eat is zee boog!" Then I will starve.

"We will force feed you zee boog!" Then I will force you to stop.

"You will fail!" So then I fail.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (6FeV1)

231 If Klaus dies, there is another Klaus.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (+hI+T)

232
The earth is really, really big. We don't get perspective on that because there are many planets and systems which are so much bigger. I read somewhere that if the current world's population was packed as densely as a city like Hong Kong, we could fit everyone in an area the size of one of the US states. If that's the case, there are a lot of resources left to be utilized here on planet Earth.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (9miN6)

Was going to mention this. The global population has been said to be able to house in Texas, almost comfortably. To say we've overpopulated it is, well, selfish and greedy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (vf0Uk)

233 231 If Klaus dies, there is another Klaus.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (+hI+T)

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The Santa Klaus?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:36 AM (LvTSG)

234
They're both shit.
Posted by: XTC at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (UnA8+)

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One is laundering our money, one is not.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 02, 2022 11:36 AM (DcKNO)

235 "If we have to have a situational alliance with Liz Warren to neutralize the billionaire philanthropaths of Monster Tech, so be it."

Gracchus : Politics is a practical profession. If a criminal has what you want, you do business with him.

Posted by: Corona at December 02, 2022 11:36 AM (nakGR)

236 >>There is no good guy.

>>They're both shit.

You're leaving out the people responsible for the war in the first place, our garbage government.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:36 AM (ZLI7S)

237 In most places they're too much work/expense to be worth doing for most people.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:29 AM (eYoxG)
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It costs virtually nothing and is merely a document added to your will construction. Everyone should have one, lest you die and force your estate into probate. The only inconvenience is re-titling ownership of bank accounts, house title etc. If you let your estate go through probate it takes forever and probably gets looted by the court and its friendly lawyers.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2022 11:36 AM (GiLEJ)

238 I don't think it'd make sense to use a trust as an alternative to tax-deferred/tax-exempt retirement accounts, you'll just end up blasting yourself with additional taxes.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:36 AM (eYoxG)

239 231 If Klaus dies, there is another Klaus.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (+hI+T)

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Same with Soros. His son is a POS too.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 02, 2022 11:36 AM (DcKNO)

240 166 143 - Yes, any solution/approach should be freedom-based. No coercion. I honestly have never worried about overpopulation…. Didn’t some nit publish a book in the 70s “The Population Bomb” which turned out to be totally wrong? 50 years ago…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (xT8gx)

That idiot Paul Erlich wrote it. He was a subpar economics student, not smart enough to go into business, but he found a copy of the long discredited theories of Thomas Malthus from the early 19th century. He did a hackneyed rewrite of them and tossed in all of the trendy left wing buzzwords and ideas of the late 60's, naming it "The Population Bomb". And he's lived as a lefty darling ever since.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 11:36 AM (trdmm)

241 21
'It is my neighbors and my community that will oppress me for a paycheck, not Klaus Schwab.'

This is my perspective too. Schwab will never be where I can shoot him but his minions will.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 02, 2022 11:37 AM (JTztk)

242 If Klaus dies, there is another Klaus.
__________

You can say the same thing about forest fires, floods, diseases and such.

You fight them where you find them even though you will never eradicate them.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 02, 2022 11:37 AM (lf83v)

243 Ian Miles Cheong tweeted that Z banned the church, then stealth deleted and reposted that Z is "preparing" to ban the church.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:37 AM (+hI+T)

244 Dear Yuval Harari,

You first.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 02, 2022 11:37 AM (I9VC/)

245 239 231 If Klaus dies, there is another Klaus.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (+hI+T)

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Same with Soros. His son is a POS too.
Posted by: Seems Legit at December 02, 2022 11:36 AM (DcKNO)

Apparently it is okay for them to have kids; just not the poor people.

Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at December 02, 2022 11:37 AM (mnUzy)

246

A reparations committee in California has suggested that descendants of slaves in the state could be compensated $223,200 each for 'housing discrimination'.

The nine-member Reparations Task Force was formed by California Governor Gavin Newsom as part of the country's largest ever effort to address reparations for slavery.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2022 11:37 AM (63Dwl)

247 239 231 If Klaus dies, there is another Klaus.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (+hI+T)

Klaus needs to be eaten by Krampus.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 11:38 AM (trdmm)

248 204 Call in an airstrike next time they meet in Davos.
Posted by: mr tmz at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (rJ48h)

I'm amenable to a Sodom Class rock delivered from the hand of the Most High.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 02, 2022 11:38 AM (MkuC5)

249 There is no good guy.

They're both shit.
Posted by: XTC at December 02, 2022 11:35 AM (UnA8+)

US is not paying one of them billions every month, to continue financing a lawless junta. There is that.

Posted by: runner at December 02, 2022 11:38 AM (V13WU)

250 Gracchus : Politics is a practical profession. If a criminal has what you want, you do business with him.
Posted by: Corona at December 02, 2022 1

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Yeah, but look what happened to the Gracchi brothers --!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2022 11:38 AM (J2vNu)

251 Who doesn't want to make the real world into his/her vision of their fantasy world?

Who wouldn't try if they had the money to make a realistic try?

Human nature is the bane of human societies. This is why people who rise to have absolute power over a society they are making into their fantasy will eliminate threats one way or another. The only remedy is for the society to remove the totalitarian fantasists who are a realistic threat, as soon as they are identified. Execution, very long imprisonment, banishment, or exile were used by early republics and democracies, and have always been used by totalitarian regimes including monarchies. Maybe the old ways were the best.

Posted by: Gref at December 02, 2022 11:38 AM (AMIL/)

252 The good thing about Hitler is that there was no other Hitler to take over.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:38 AM (+hI+T)

253
Same with Soros. His son is a POS too.
Posted by: Seems Legit at December 02, 2022 11:36 AM (DcKNO)

Sometimes, a bloodline eraser is required.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:39 AM (vf0Uk)

254 Zelensky just banned the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

What I've read so far is very different. He's addressing religious organizations with ties to Russia, and which are providing material support for the invasion.

Ukraine bans religious organizations with links to Russia

Ukraine has banned the activities of religious organizations “affiliated with centers of influence” in Russia and says it will examine the links between the Ukrainian and Russian Orthodox churches

https://tinyurl.com/4pndk7kz

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:39 AM (eOEVl)

255 Yes, an Oligarch can fight an Oligarch. But that's just another way of finding or supporting a tyrant/king. Too much overthrow of power and people will yearn for stability over freedom.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (xcxpd)

Another problem with oligarchs is that they tend to use armies to fight each other. Result is a lot of innocents get killed.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2022 11:39 AM (anj39)

256 The good thing about Hitler is that there was no other Hitler to take over.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:38 AM (+hI+T)

Democrats, laughing, spread their collective wings.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:39 AM (vf0Uk)

257 >>>And we'll destroy a lot more by denying the use of fossil fuels and fertilizers. The wood will go to heat and many more acres of habitat will be needed to farm "organically".
Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:26 AM (Zzbjj)
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Disney, FL iirc, cut down 100 acres of forest to put up solar panels. For a little more money they could have put them over the parking lot, created covered parking and saved the forest.

I vote for more farmers, and habitat land so we don't loose that which may be our best part.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 11:39 AM (5TmO/)

258 Yeet
Posted by: nurse ratched

Yoot !

Posted by: JT at December 02, 2022 11:40 AM (T4tVD)

259 Anyone who owns more than one house needs to forfeit ownership and gift it to a homeless family.

Any bedrooms not being used needs to be used as a homeless shelter.

You can only purchase enough "food" to sustain yourself for one week at a time.

No privately owned vehicles.

No privately owned boats or airplanes.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 02, 2022 11:41 AM (FwAW+)

260 One thing that could be done to limit the power of the left and their billionaire elite would be to get rid of the not for profits. Money is hidden and transferred through them at a rapid rate and they're quite profitable for those who work for them and are on their boards

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 02, 2022 11:41 AM (muTXm)

261 Our root problem, however, is the massive administrative state in the US that answers to itself. Klaus isn't a problem for us without it.

Posted by: Don at December 02, 2022 11:41 AM (Q7knO)

262
Klaus needs to be eaten by Krampus.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 11:38 AM (trdmm)

This will have to do......

https://youtu.be/Fcrj4szgTjc

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:41 AM (vf0Uk)

263 Once heard that something like 75% of America is unpopulated.

Unless you've driven cross country, it's hard to imagine how big America actually is.

People have absolutely zero sense of scale.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:41 AM (KbCG3)

264 Yes, an Oligarch can fight an Oligarch. But that's just another way of finding or supporting a tyrant/king. Too much overthrow of power and people will yearn for stability over freedom.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 02, 2022 11:28 AM (xcxpd)
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Those 19th century competitors became our benefactors.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 11:41 AM (5TmO/)

265 Yeet
Posted by: nurse ratched

Yoot !
Posted by: JT at December 02, 2022 11:40 AM (T4tVD)

Yort

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:41 AM (vf0Uk)

266 What does the world need with more than one government, anyway?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 02, 2022 11:41 AM (6FeV1)

267 God told us to go forth and dominate the Earth as it was his gift to us. The Earth has infinite resources for us to use. As it provides, we learn how to get it to provide more.

We've spent many months justifiably mocking the left for trying to implement a "green" economy, when nobody can say where the materials needed for it will be found. Perhaps, just perhaps, we ought to identify those sources before we just assume they'll be available.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:42 AM (eOEVl)

268 My husband also says there are way too many people on this planet. Problem is all the people making babies are in countries that can't afford them and we end up footing the bill.

Posted by: Jaimo at December 02, 2022 11:42 AM (DBrN4)

269 220 Erie PA received a lot of Iraqis. Working on houses for my landlady's SIL, I encountered a few of these guys he would hire as labor. The ones from Basra in particular were very fond of Brits, having heard tales from their elders that at least the Brits knew how to run things. Having said that, you haven't lived until you are on top of a 40' shaky ladder, and the Iraqis supposed to be holding it are suddenly sitting on a blanket drinking tea.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2022 11:42 AM (lz5hY)

270 "What can we do to defang the evil billionaire philanthropaths?"

Release the naturopaths!

Posted by: Receive gp's Free No-Obligation Information Packet at December 02, 2022 11:42 AM (24fqN)

271 >>> Ian Miles Cheong tweeted that Z banned the church, then stealth deleted and reposted that Z is "preparing" to ban the church.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:37 AM (+hI+T)

I looked up some news on it. It's a little bit of both. He decreed the ban. Now some guys have to go somewhere and dance around with chicken bones while singing the I'm a little teapot song. When that's done it's super duper decreed.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2022 11:42 AM (+3jTj)

272 The earth is really, really big. We don't get perspective on that because there are many planets and systems which are so much bigger. I read somewhere that if the current world's population was packed as densely as a city like Hong Kong, we could fit everyone in an area the size of one of the US states. If that's the case, there are a lot of resources left to be utilized here on planet Earth.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (9miN6)
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Yup. I did this exercise once back when I was a kid. Forget Hong Kong. Take a relatively less-dense city like Chicago. Chicago has 12,000 people per square mile. There are 8 billion people in the world. At Chicago population density, they would require 666,667 square miles. That's a city the size of Texas, CA, MT, NM and AZ (land area only). That's big, but remember that the rest of the planet is empty.

At Hong Kong density (17,500 per sq. mi), it would only require a city the size of TX, MT and MN - with plenty of room to spare.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 11:42 AM (t0OGg)

273 Ewwww. I just got an email exhorting me to get a flu shot. from cdphe.vaccine.registry @state.co.us via amazonses.com

But case in point. State health dept is using Amazon to track my vaccination status. The state is NEVER going to be my ally against this or any other mega corporation.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 02, 2022 11:42 AM (3cGpq)

274 Ukraine has banned the activities of religious organizations “affiliated with centers of influence” in Russia

Why would they need to do that? From everything I've heard out of our propaganda mouthpieces, they're rolling into Moscow next week. Vladivostok by Christmas!

Posted by: spindrift at December 02, 2022 11:42 AM (h5TKJ)

275 "We replaced nurse ratched's mindset with communism. Let's see if she notices."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:42 AM (vf0Uk)

276 I see the jobs numbers came out and it's exactly like I said yesterday.. ADP says a low number and miracle of miracles the Biden Junta releases large numbers

Posted by: It's me donna at December 02, 2022 11:43 AM (bs+z0)

277 There is more than enough land.

Posted by: runner at December 02, 2022 11:43 AM (V13WU)

278 Showing this another way, there were 158.458 million employed workers in March 2022... and 158.470 million in November 2022 an increase of just 12,000 over 8 months, a period in which the number of payrolls (which as a reminder is the number the market follows) reportedly increased by 2.7 million!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:43 AM (+hI+T)

279 I read somewhere that if the current world's population was packed as densely as a city like Hong Kong, we could fit everyone in an area the size of one of the US states.

True. Now feed them.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:43 AM (eOEVl)

280 There will come a time when people like Schwab, Soros, et. al. will see Birnam Wood come to Dunsinane and find they don't have a friend in the world.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 02, 2022 11:32 AM (oINRc)

I hope the time is near. Musk has helped with this. Pre-Elon you rarely read a word about Schwab, or Soros, or Gates, except for praise. Now it's filled with hatred.

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:43 AM (Zzbjj)

281 260 One thing that could be done to limit the power of the left and their billionaire elite would be to get rid of the not for profits. Money is hidden and transferred through them at a rapid rate and they're quite profitable for those who work for them and are on their boards
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 02, 2022 11:41 AM (muTXm)

I haven't thought about this too much, but my gut impulse is to eliminate all nonprofitability - including those of the Church - and maybe municipalities as well. Everyone should pay taxes.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 11:43 AM (9miN6)

282 266 What does the world need with more than one government, anyway?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 02, 2022 11:41 AM (6FeV1)

Especially when there are only 20,000 to 25,000 people in the world!

Posted by: You Know Who at December 02, 2022 11:44 AM (AMIL/)

283 .22 rimfire, as much as you can afford. If you don't need it, someone else will.

If we get down to having to hunt to live for a bit, I can see it. You can eat a lot more often off what you kill with a .22. And it'll trade well.

Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 11:44 AM (66r+l)

284 True. Now feed them.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:43 AM (eOEVl)

Use the rest of the land to grow crops, cattle, pigs, chickens, etc.

We'll be fine.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:45 AM (vf0Uk)

285 263 Once heard that something like 75% of America is unpopulated.

Unless you've driven cross country, it's hard to imagine how big America actually is.

People have absolutely zero sense of scale.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 02, 2022 11:41 AM (KbCG3)

We should strive to keep it that way.

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:45 AM (Zzbjj)

286 NPFs are abused. But the concept is a good one.

Posted by: runner at December 02, 2022 11:45 AM (V13WU)

287 One of the bigger values of a trust is if a loved one has dementia. Durable power of attorney works best for temporary issues or specifically health issues but often changing asset types, lack of reporting requirements, etc. can be a big problem leading to the need for guardianship or conservatorship with ensuing hassles and cost.

Often, the need for a trust to avoid probate can be avoided because beneficiary deeds/provisions for financial assets or real property and/ or co-ownership of things like bank accounts can reduce the size of an estate to the 'easy' form rather than the more expensive type.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2022 11:45 AM (bDjBG)

288 True. Now feed them.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:43 AM (eOEVl)
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That's a logistics problem, not a capacity problem.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 11:45 AM (BpYfr)

289 268 My husband also says there are way too many people on this planet. Problem is all the people making babies are in countries that can't afford them and we end up footing the bill.
Posted by: Jaimo at December 02, 2022 11:42 AM (DBrN4)

The problem there is in us deciding we have to "foot the bill". We don't. It also has something to do with immigration control. Let other countries and peoples do whatever they want, just make sure they keep it inside their own borders and we don't pay them to do it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 11:45 AM (trdmm)

290 263 Once heard that something like 75% of America is unpopulated.

What % of that is useless land?
What % of that is farmland?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 11:45 AM (5TmO/)

291 What can we do to defang the evil billionaire philanthropists?

Reportedly, S. initially focused on introducing European firms to U.S. management practices, and he developed and promoted the "stakeholder" management approach. The WEB is a non-profit organization.

Its offices include WEF Headquarters in Switzerland; (Headquarters) WEF LLC, NY, NY; WEF Beijing Representative Office, Beijing, China; WEF Japan Office, Tokyo, Japan; (Headquarters) Centre for the 4th Industrial Revolution Network, San Francisco, CA; Center for the 4th Industrial Revolution India, Navi Mumbai, India, and the Center for the 4th Industrial Revolution Japan, Tokyo, Japan.

Reportedly, the U.S. has the largest number of members including, but not limited to, Walmart, Linked In, Pay Pal, The LEGO Brand Group, Underwriters Lab, Toyota, Coca Cola, Tyson Foods, NBC Universal, NYT, J & J, Jefferson Health, AARP, American Heart, Volvo Group, Sony, Deloitte, Pepsi Co, Williams-Sonoma, and UPS. (I was surprised.)

Is defanging still possible, especially with so many willing to, or needing to, support so many involved businesses?

Posted by: Lola at December 02, 2022 11:45 AM (NIYa7)

292 279 I read somewhere that if the current world's population was packed as densely as a city like Hong Kong, we could fit everyone in an area the size of one of the US states.

True. Now feed them.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:43 AM (eOEVl)

I think it could be done. In fact, it would be orders of magnitude easier with everyone in one place, than dealing with the logistics of feeding a scattered population. We already have enough food produced today to do it - the problem is a logistical one.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 11:46 AM (9miN6)

293 It's interesting that Elon Musk is on the other side of the population question - he has no issues with 8 billion people (he seems to be trying to father as many kids as possible), and doesn't buy the population control WEF scumbags.

Posted by: Big Star at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (Modkf)

294 Use the rest of the land to grow crops, cattle, pigs, chickens, etc.

We'll be fine.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:45 AM (vf0Uk)
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Just throw some dirt over it and add some water. It'll be fine.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (t0OGg)

295 >>True. Now feed them.

We have been. When the climate change fanatics first made up this scam back in the early 70s they claimed they needed to come up with a plan to limit population growth because the earth couldn't feed more people.

They were completely wrong. We developed new agricultural processes because that's what humans do, they adapt. We have so much frigging corn we are sticking it in gasoline.

They problem has never been the ability to adapt, it's people who arrive at a bad conclusion and then try to force their world view on the rest of us.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (ZLI7S)

296 "if the current world's population was packed as densely as a city like Hong Kong"

Sounds really unpleasant. YMMV.

Posted by: Receive gp's Free No-Obligation Information Packet at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (24fqN)

297 The GOPe did a number on us by convincing us that to be a good American we had to agree with trickle down tax policies. If you have a problem with billionaires, tax them until they are only millionaires. Maybe Obama was on to something, "At some point you have enough money."

This is a larger point. The GOP needs to be more like the DEMs. They need to use public policy to enrich their friends and punish their enemies. We need to make them fear to be outed as a progressive like we fear to be outed as a conservative.

Posted by: tommylotto at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (CRqTc)

298 I read this morning that their current fertility rate is 2.2. Replacement is 2.1.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (eOEVl)

And?

Eventually India will fill up, or the infant mortality rate will go down, and they'll stop.

Once you accept that:

1. Every super-duper problem that TPTB are bitching about is BS,
2. Humanity isn't going to destroy the planet,
3. If 2 were wrong, that would solve the issue of humanity,
4. Every major worldwide issue will either solve itself, or not, but not in your lifetime,
5. It's not your fucking place to decide how other people live.

Then everything suddenly comes into perspective.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (1Z8zZ)

299 The problem isn't that there's 8 billion people.

The problem is that 7.5 billion of them are assholes.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (6FeV1)

300 Died Suddenly video has many of these saying there are too many people in the world
Posted by: Skip's phone

One cannot get to Page 2 in an Ars Technica comment thread without seeing this sentiment. Also in Steam forums. And the gaming sites like Polygon, Rock Paper Shotgun, and a dozen others.

It's like the whole tech commentariat is fully misanthropic or Satanist or both. They really, really hate humans, and whenever they find a chance, they make sure to mention it.

Except themselves, of course. They love themselves. It's everyone else that's the problem in need of a final solution.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 02, 2022 11:48 AM (YJwUM)

301 What can we do to defang the evil billionaire philanthropaths?

..

First we must understand that they do not actually hold the power. It's like a prison system, the inmates hold the true power. In the case of our society, the workers hold the true power. Shut the country down with a general strike.

Posted by: Here, let me help at December 02, 2022 11:48 AM (HapqG)

302 ++++
Just throw some dirt over it and add some water. It'll be fine.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (t0OGg)

The cure for all that ails ya.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:48 AM (vf0Uk)

303 @263 The Central Scrutinizer-Flown a few times coast to coast SF to NY. Twice on clear sunny days once during winter and once during summer.

We are insignificant.

Posted by: JROD at December 02, 2022 11:48 AM (AtoNk)

304 295 They were completely wrong. We developed new agricultural processes because that's what humans do, they adapt. We have so much frigging corn we are sticking it in gasoline.

They problem has never been the ability to adapt, it's people who arrive at a bad conclusion and then try to force their world view on the rest of us.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (ZLI7S)

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One of the far left's most hated people is the guy who genetically engineered rice to be far more nutritious so that less rice fed more people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:48 AM (LvTSG)

305 I think it could be done. In fact, it would be orders of magnitude easier with everyone in one place, than dealing with the logistics of feeding a scattered population. We already have enough food produced today to do it - the problem is a logistical one.

Oh, the benefits of everyone herded into the cities would be too numerous to count. Archimedes could have his balance restored with nature, so all the wild animals could run free and the fauna could grow - without our nasty asses tramping upon their sacred turf.

And we'd all be easier to control, and feed, and control, and manage, and control .... did I mention we'd be so much easier to keep docile ? And under control ?

Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 11:48 AM (66r+l)

306 302 ++++
Just throw some dirt over it and add some water. It'll be fine.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (t0OGg)

The cure for all that ails ya.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:48 AM (vf0Uk)

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I don't even see a hot iron recommendation. It's like I don't know you people anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

307 272

Nailed it.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 02, 2022 11:49 AM (MkuC5)

308 >>> I see the jobs numbers came out and it's exactly like I said yesterday.. ADP says a low number and miracle of miracles the Biden Junta releases large numbers
Posted by: It's me donna at December 02, 2022 11:43 AM (bs+z0)

Something Is Rigged: Unexplained, Record 2.7 Million Jobs Gap Emerges In Broken Payrolls Report (A ZH article)
tinyurl.com/fjbfakecon

Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2022 11:49 AM (+3jTj)

309 There was a time the tuna population around Australia was nearly depleted. So what did they do? They invented a new way of farming them and now they have more tuna than they know what to do with.

Look for the video about the tuna cowboys of Australia. Those guys are crazy but they sure do know how to grow a tuna population.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:49 AM (ZLI7S)

310 The problem isn't that there's 8 billion people.

The problem is that 7.5 billion of them are assholes.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (6FeV1)

This needs to be on a bumper sticker.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:49 AM (vf0Uk)

311 308 Something Is Rigged: Unexplained, Record 2.7 Million Jobs Gap Emerges In Broken Payrolls Report (A ZH article)
tinyurl.com/fjbfakecon
Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2022 11:49 AM (+3jTj)

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It's all fake and America at large doesn't care.

So, I have stopped caring.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

312 293 It's interesting that Elon Musk is on the other side of the population question - he has no issues with 8 billion people

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Because he thinks and he's apparently not in their creepy pedo-death cult

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 02, 2022 11:49 AM (EGSGm)

313
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I don't even see a hot iron recommendation. It's like I don't know you people anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

That's for cauterizing after the dirt is applied.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 02, 2022 11:50 AM (vf0Uk)

314 I looked up some news on it. It's a little bit of both. He decreed the ban. Now some guys have to go somewhere and dance around with chicken bones while singing the I'm a little teapot song. When that's done it's super duper decreed.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2022 11:42 AM (+3jTj)

If he wants to go back in Orthodox History, he could look back to the 8th Century Iconoclast crisis, when the Byzantine Emperor (there was an Empress involved too, I think) briefly banned traditional Orthodox practices and essentially ordered everyone to become radical Primitive Baptists. That would be amusing to see again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 11:50 AM (trdmm)

315 People like Schwab, Soros, and Gates would likely be pissed off to no end to find out one of their own was working at cross purposes to them. A massive "disinformation" program designed to sow unrest and doubt among these types would be an interesting plan. This concept has been used to turn entire countries so a properly designed and run one would likely have the desired results on these assholes.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2022 11:50 AM (Q4IgG)

316 Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 11:46 AM (9miN6)

Sri Lanka was feeding itself until the greenies got to them. Then they banned the fertilizers and are starting to starve. But that is the plan.

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:50 AM (Zzbjj)

317 Often, the need for a trust to avoid probate can be avoided because beneficiary deeds/provisions for financial assets or real property and/ or co-ownership of things like bank accounts can reduce the size of an estate to the 'easy' form rather than the more expensive type.
Posted by: whig
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Yes, a simple, don't know the technical term, transfer of authority. Checking accounts instead of X re configure them to X and Y, other accounts can have POD or beneficiary. Much can be made into a simple clear transfer.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 11:50 AM (5TmO/)

318 316 Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 11:46 AM (9miN6)

Sri Lanka was feeding itself until the greenies got to them. Then they banned the fertilizers and are starting to starve. But that is the plan.
Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:50 AM (Zzbjj)

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Famine went from a natural disaster to a man-made one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:51 AM (LvTSG)

319 @299 Warai-otoko. I land firmly in the asshole camp but I’m not the problem.

Posted by: JROD at December 02, 2022 11:51 AM (AtoNk)

320 295 >>True. Now feed them.

We have been. When the climate change fanatics first made up this scam back in the early 70s they claimed they needed to come up with a plan to limit population growth because the earth couldn't feed more people.

They were completely wrong. We developed new agricultural processes because that's what humans do, they adapt. We have so much frigging corn we are sticking it in gasoline.

They problem has never been the ability to adapt, it's people who arrive at a bad conclusion and then try to force their world view on the rest of us.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (ZLI7S)

There's a lot of capacity for improvement in existing farmlands in much of the world with existing knowledge.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:51 AM (eYoxG)

321 I read this morning that their current fertility rate is 2.2. Replacement is 2.1.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (eOEVl)

And?

Eventually India will fill up, or the infant mortality rate will go down, and they'll stop.

That was exactly my point.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:51 AM (eOEVl)

322 And don't let the institutions take any taxes. That's for your tax man to do.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 11:51 AM (5TmO/)

323 The GOPe did a number on us by convincing us that to be a good American we had to agree with trickle down tax policies. If you have a problem with billionaires, tax them until they are only millionaires. Maybe Obama was on to something, "At some point you have enough money."

Yep. Muh Corporations. And lower tax rates for those that use every spare dime to their name to lobby Government to implement policy against us. Not to mentioned those loud and proud "Free Traders" who clapped loudly - still do - as more jobs are sent to China.

Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 11:52 AM (66r+l)

324 >>People like Schwab, Soros, and Gates would likely be pissed off to no end to find out one of their own was working at cross purposes to them. A massive "disinformation" program designed to sow unrest and doubt among these types would be an interesting plan. This concept has been used to turn entire countries so a properly designed and run one would likely have the desired results on these assholes.

Time to watch Yuri Bezmenov again.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:52 AM (ZLI7S)

325 Oh, the benefits of everyone herded into the cities would be too numerous to count. Archimedes could have his balance restored with nature, so all the wild animals could run free and the fauna could grow - without our nasty asses tramping upon their sacred turf.

And we'd all be easier to control, and feed, and control, and manage, and control .... did I mention we'd be so much easier to keep docile ? And under control ?
Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 11:48 AM (66r+l)

Ok, every plan has a downside. This is a big one for having everyone in one place. That, however, is a political problem, not a logistics or capacity one.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 11:52 AM (9miN6)

326 254 Zelensky just banned the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

What I've read so far is very different. He's addressing religious organizations with ties to Russia, and which are providing material support for the invasion.

Ukraine bans religious organizations with links to Russia

Ukraine has banned the activities of religious organizations “affiliated with centers of influence” in Russia and says it will examine the links between the Ukrainian and Russian Orthodox churches

https://tinyurl.com/4pndk7kz
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:39 AM (eOEVl)

Ukraine may ultimately prove that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" theory is bogus.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (N39Ws)

327 One of the far left's most hated people is the guy who genetically engineered rice to be far more nutritious so that less rice fed more people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:48 AM (LvTSG)
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Norman Borlaug is credited for saving no fewer than 1 BILLION lives through his agricultural revolution...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (BpYfr)

328 Confiscatory taxes of all wealth above a certain amount. This is not what I would prefer, and I have long recoiled at this idea, but I have come around to thinking it is necessary. At some point having so much money is just not needed. You don't see many with $50 million in wealth engaged in this lunacy, and yet, that is sufficient to enjoy an extravagant lifestyle for yourself and your family. These folks preach about the common good to justify their actions. OK, the common good now dictates that every penny you earn above $50 Million is confiscated and given to the government. And to be clear, every penny of that must go toward paying down any existing debt or deficit before it can be used for any other purpose.
Posted by: DPICM at December 02, 2022 11:06 AM (M2VUX)

dissolution of ALL charities and foundations will have to occur as well. with minor possible exceptions for food banks, salvation army, and homeless shelters.

I'm not entirely sure how you structure the wording on that, but you can't have them hiding their wealth in their wholly owned and controlled "charity"

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (Mkvkw)

329 304 295 Would you rather die from some GMO caused condition, real or imagined at 79 instead of 80, or starve to death at age 40?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (lz5hY)

330 319 @299 Warai-otoko. I land firmly in the asshole camp but I’m not the problem.
Posted by: JROD at December 02, 2022 11:51 AM (AtoNk)

Yeah, me too.

It's a team effort, really.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (6FeV1)

331 327 Norman Borlaug is credited for saving no fewer than 1 BILLION lives through his agricultural revolution...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (BpYfr)

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That's the dude.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (LvTSG)

332 >Eventually India will fill up,

Yes but will it tip over?

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (44ww/)

333 Rhetorical question: What is your recourse when society turns against the will of the people and turns against their interests?

Posted by: Brian at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (nczzS)

334 "The good thing about Hitler is that there was no other Hitler to take over. ---
Democrats, laughing, spread their collective wings."

ha, yeah, I was gonna say "CIA was more of a collective, but they seemed to pull in a lot of enemy talent, and the 'globalist march' continued"?

Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (Cus5s)

335 I agree wholeheartedly.

I’d include the following;

A 10 year time limit and size of foundations

A new category called “foreign influenced American business” for corporations that do more business oversees than in the USA. Those companies would not be allowed to lobby Congress.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (YGv+W)

336 Disastrous morning on lichess, lost 150 rating points. I keep forgetting Finegold's Rule 1: don't blunder.

Posted by: Receive gp's Free No-Obligation Information Packet at December 02, 2022 11:54 AM (24fqN)

337 They problem has never been the ability to adapt, it's people who arrive at a bad conclusion and then try to force their world view on the rest of us.

Again, I'm not in favor of forcing anything. Yes, people adapt, and we will do things better, but are there no limits at all? I think that's unlikely. For example, see my question about green energy and the required materials at 267.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:54 AM (eOEVl)

338 The good thing about Hitler is that there was no other Hitler to take over.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 02, 2022 11:38 AM (+hI+T)

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Do we know for a fact that Klaus "Barbie" Schwab isn't the illegitimate spawn of Hitler?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 11:54 AM (K3TEc)

339 Late to the thread, but I would like to point out an important fact:

Schwab provides nothing of value to anyone on the planet.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2022 11:54 AM (lTGtQ)

340 There's a lot of capacity for improvement in existing farmlands in much of the world with existing knowledge.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:51 AM (eYoxG)
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At least until asshole governments decide to take them over in the name of "saving the planet." Just ask the Dutch how that's working out for them...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 11:54 AM (BpYfr)

341 >>Ukraine may ultimately prove that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" theory is bogus.

Probably wasn't such a good idea for us to run a color revolution in Ukraine and depose a duly elected leader who was friendly with Putin and replace him with someone we could control.

That whacky CIA once again.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 11:54 AM (ZLI7S)

342 Oh, the benefits of everyone herded into the cities would be too numerous to count. Archimedes could have his balance restored with nature, so all the wild animals could run free and the fauna could grow - without our nasty asses tramping upon their sacred turf.

Speaking of asses...

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:55 AM (eOEVl)

343 297 The GOPe did a number on us by convincing us that to be a good American we had to agree with trickle down tax policies. If you have a problem with billionaires, tax them until they are only millionaires. Maybe Obama was on to something, "At some point you have enough money."

This is a larger point. The GOP needs to be more like the DEMs. They need to use public policy to enrich their friends and punish their enemies. We need to make them fear to be outed as a progressive like we fear to be outed as a conservative.
Posted by: tommylotto at December 02, 2022 11:47 AM (CRqTc)

There was never such a theory as trickle down. The claim is nearly always aimed at taxes on income anyways, which is not a major source of wealth for billionaires.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:55 AM (eYoxG)

344 TJM, you live in Charleston, right? Ever make it to Columbia? Would love to grab a beer sometime.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

No, he dances the Charleston.

Posted by: JT at December 02, 2022 11:55 AM (T4tVD)

345 What can we do to stop the philanthropaths?"

well I think we all know, but we can't talk about those kinds of things on a nice blog like this.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Arkhaven Comics has a web comic called "The Awakener" that I would understand if it inspired a few hundred people.

I would totally understand, even though I of course don't condone emulating this comic's great hero of humanity.

www.arkhaven.com/comics/action/the-awakener

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 02, 2022 11:55 AM (YJwUM)

346 321 I read this morning that their current fertility rate is 2.2. Replacement is 2.1.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:19 AM (eOEVl)

And?

Eventually India will fill up, or the infant mortality rate will go down, and they'll stop.

That was exactly my point.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:51 AM (eOEVl)

What you're saying, then, is that human population is working toward equilibrium, and that we haven't quite found where that is. Does that mean that the 'problem' you've identified will solve itself eventually, no matter what we do?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 11:56 AM (9miN6)

347 Ukraine bans religious organizations with links to Russia

Ukraine has banned the activities of religious organizations “affiliated with centers of influence” in Russia and says it will examine the links between the Ukrainian and Russian Orthodox churches

https://tinyurl.com/4pndk7kz
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:39 AM (eOEVl)

There are currently two Ukrainian Orthodox Churches. One is tge old lone, recognizing the Moscow Patriarchy as kind of an older brother. Tge second, recently granted autonomous status by the Ecumenical Patriarch, is independent of Moscow. And not recognized as legitimate by Moscow. Plus the Russian Orthodox Church in ethnically Russian areas, Latin and Uniate Catholic Churches (I know, not supposed to say "Uniate" any more). And various Evangelical Churches.

Moscow and the Moscow leaning Ukrainian Church don't recognize theme new independent Ukrainian Orthodox Church. Of course, they wish the "Little Father" (or his Soviet replacement) was still in charge.

Posted by: Fox2! at December 02, 2022 11:56 AM (i9tuZ)

348
If Klaus dies, there is another Klaus.

Mini-me

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2022 11:56 AM (63Dwl)

349 A John Deere, sunflower seeds, sunshine, water, some assembly required.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at December 02, 2022 11:57 AM (tA1/w)

350 290 263 Once heard that something like 75% of America is unpopulated.

What % of that is useless land?
What % of that is farmland?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 11:45 AM (5TmO/)

I don't know, but a lot of foodstuffs could be grown on land now used as tree farms, sugar cane fields, and for other non-subsistence crops. Add to that the huge areas of unused farmland in the US, and a lot more food can be grown if needed. If the need is strong enough, rolling terrain not used for farming today can be put into production using terracing or grading. Not cheap, but it could be done.

Posted by: Gref at December 02, 2022 11:57 AM (AMIL/)

351 337

Again, I'm not in favor of forcing anything. Yes, people adapt, and we will do things better, but are there no limits at all? I think that's unlikely. For example, see my question about green energy and the required materials at 267.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:54 AM (eOEVl)

Green energy is a radical shift they're attempting to do in a very short period of time with a thousand unsolved problems. We're not really strongly pressed to shift away from carbon fuels at present, and moreover nuclear can replace a decent chunk of it.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:57 AM (eYoxG)

352 What you're saying, then, is that human population is working toward equilibrium, and that we haven't quite found where that is. Does that mean that the 'problem' you've identified will solve itself eventually, no matter what we do?

It's certainly moving in that direction, although at this point, I'm also concerned about depopulation. IMHO, a goldilocks zone is 2-3B people. YMMV.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:57 AM (eOEVl)

353 I hate it when a holding starts running in a good up trend.

Then I have to worry about it all weekend...

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 02, 2022 11:57 AM (MkuC5)

354 I'll invoke the Darth Randall "you first" clause. Can't own property? You first. Gotta eat bugs? You first. People have to die to save the planet?...

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 02, 2022 11:58 AM (CQTg2)

355 There is no "right" number of people. Is there supposed to be some kind of tracking system put in place? One in, One out? How are we gonna do this? What if someone is pronounced dead, and you let some pleb take her birth-allow pill and get knocked up, but the bastard actually wasn't dead? You force the woman to abort the kid? You kill Little Mr. Almost Dead with a swift and judicious machine-that-goes-ping across the noggin? What's the protocol here?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 02, 2022 11:58 AM (6FeV1)

356 95 >>True. Now feed them.

We have been. When the climate change fanatics first made up this scam back in the early 70s they claimed they needed to come up with a plan to limit population growth because the earth couldn't feed more people."

Thomas Malthus started all that crap with a widely noticed essay on Population published in 1798. Everyone who's tossed those ideas around since is totally derivative of him, even though David Ricardo almost immediately showed why Malthus was wrong.

One of Malthus "points" was the Food Charity was wrong, because the people who's lives were saved would just breed more. He can be credited with why many Englishmen a generation or two later thought it was better to let the Irish starve in 1848 than to provide any relief for them. Just decreasing the surplus population, in the words Dickens gave to Scrooge.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 11:58 AM (trdmm)

357 Neil Oliver says it well.
And i agree with him. The "great reset" has already occurred.
https://youtu.be/CuVl0pn_ko0

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 02, 2022 11:58 AM (Rbu5d)

358 Rhetorical question: What is your recourse when society turns against the will of the people and turns against their interests?
Posted by: Brian at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (nczzS)
don't know a peaceful solution

Posted by: MAC V SOG at December 02, 2022 11:58 AM (P4Pk9)

359 The local Zelensky nut-hugger thinks there's too many little brown people. Shocking.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 02, 2022 11:58 AM (fS+AK)

360 So now he's banning religions that weaken Ukraine, or that weaken his hold on Ukraine and that of the people supplying launderable money?

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 11:58 AM (Zzbjj)

361 Ukraine may ultimately prove that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" theory is bogus.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (N39Ws)

Russia stopped being MY enemy long ago. Ukraine was never my friend. They're pretty tight with the people raping my country though.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at December 02, 2022 11:59 AM (1Z8zZ)

362 Ok, every plan has a downside. This is a big one for having everyone in one place. That, however, is a political problem, not a logistics or capacity one.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 11:52 AM (9miN6)

Darrell ... I'm really not picking on you. Don't take it like that. But I am making a point, that you conveniently put on the table.

Every damn modern infringement on the common man, from the Twentieth Century on, has been made in the name of efficiency. Just give up a little autonomy - it'll be worth it, you see - because everything will just work so much better. Come on, be part of the team, be a Good American, go with the flow.

Fuck efficiency. I value personal freedom first. Chaos is the price of it. I'll accept that chaos. Efficiency is the way you suddenly find yourself as part of a herd. Hell, the Third Reich was efficient.

Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 11:59 AM (66r+l)

363 >>> If he wants to go back in Orthodox History, he could look back to the 8th Century Iconoclast crisis, when the Byzantine Emperor (there was an Empress involved too, I think) briefly banned traditional Orthodox practices and essentially ordered everyone to become radical Primitive Baptists. That would be amusing to see again.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 11:50 AM (trdmm)

The periods of Russian history where there was great attraction towards Asceticism was interesting along with the conflict that brought with factions that wanted to bring foreign influence in.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2022 11:59 AM (+3jTj)

364 Green energy is a radical shift they're attempting to do in a very short period of time with a thousand unsolved problems. We're not really strongly pressed to shift away from carbon fuels at present, and moreover nuclear can replace a decent chunk of it.

Agreed. All I said was that perhaps we should solve the problems first, and not just assume solutions.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:59 AM (eOEVl)

365 359 The local Zelensky nut-hugger thinks there's too many little brown people. Shocking.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 02, 2022 11:58 AM (fS+AK

Someone here?

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (Zzbjj)

366 I read somewhere that if the current world's population was packed as densely as a city like Hong Kong, we could fit everyone in an area the size of one of the US states.

True. Now feed them.

Posted by: Archimedes

If you filled Texas with housing (roughly 100 ft2 p.p.), you could house the entire world population. If you dedicated Kansas and Nebraska to grain and cattle, you could feed them.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (lTGtQ)

367 "Yes, people adapt, and we will do things better, but are there no limits at all? I think that's unlikely."

I agree. I understand the anti-Malthusian arguments, but I think what you'll ultimately end up with a different quality of life, not objectively 'worse,' but unpleasant by today's status quo.

Posted by: Receive gp's Free No-Obligation Information Packet at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (24fqN)

368 There's a lot of capacity for improvement in existing farmlands in much of the world with existing knowledge.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:51 AM (eYoxG)
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But not without oil...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (t0OGg)

369 Things are getting frisky in the Netherlands.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (ZLI7S)

370 Eventually India will fill up,

Yes but will it tip over?
Posted by: Bourbonchicken at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (44ww/)

For a small grant of $15M I can do a study showing that the Himalayas are an indication of this very phenomena.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (1Z8zZ)

371 Seems the philantropaths have no interest in using science to find new reliable energy sources to replace the carbon-based ones the entire economy is built on. They are basically talking about solutions that could be sustainable if our population was one fifth of what it is now.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (F5ekr)

372 The USA has so much available crop land that our government pays farmers not to plant to benefit climate change, etc, blah blah blah. (CRP)
Stop paying the short term contracts and return the land to production.

Posted by: old chick at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (sOete)

373 tight with the people raping my country though.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at December 02, 2022 11:59 AM (1Z8zZ)
They are, indeed.

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (Zzbjj)

374 368 There's a lot of capacity for improvement in existing farmlands in much of the world with existing knowledge.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 11:51 AM (eYoxG)
++++
But not without oil...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (t0OGg)

Well yeah, without oil we're all screwed sideways today.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (eYoxG)

375 And a physicist on the CO2 scam so beloved of Gates and his henchmen
https://youtu.be/KGn-6kGoD0c

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 02, 2022 12:01 PM (Rbu5d)

376 369 Things are getting frisky in the Netherlands.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (ZLI7S)

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Good.

They need to, "educate" their leadership. And by "educate" I mean run out of the country.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 02, 2022 12:01 PM (DcKNO)

377 Klaus Schwab has no power.
He can come up with ideas, but in the end, it will be my neighbor the cop, my fellow resident the judge, or my friends son the military man that will try to impose these things on me.
It is my neighbors and my community that will oppress me for a paycheck, not Klaus Schwab.
We are a nation of government mercenaries.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2022 11:05 AM (6Dtba)

And they will. Time to get Willowed, but here goes anyways.
When billionaires buy farmland and let it go fallow, or send the food grown on it somewhere to feed elites while plebes starve, the courts will affirm that he has the right to do as he wishes with private property. The police will enforce the laws on theft if you try to interdict the food from leaving the area.
The Law can be an Ass, and so can those who enforce them. Everything the Third Reich did was "legal".
So it will be again.

Posted by: Kermit sips his tea at December 02, 2022 12:01 PM (FCbAQ)

378 312 293 It's interesting that Elon Musk is on the other side of the population question - he has no issues with 8 billion people
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Because he thinks and he's apparently not in their creepy pedo-death cult
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 02, 2022 11:49 AM (EGSGm)
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Repeating myself

We have four great men on our side today
Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Ron DeSantis

No other men on our side have the power with one declarative sentence to set DC's hair on fire.
They are all family men with children. They are all good fathers and husbands and all of them detest the pedo world.

We are in the middle of WWIII/CWII.
We are not losing.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 12:02 PM (5TmO/)

379 The U.S. was a founding member of the UN, is the host country and largest contributor. The US Ambassador & the representatives for the General Assembly, appointed by the B administration, are also some interesting folks.

Posted by: Lola at December 02, 2022 12:02 PM (NIYa7)

380 Rhetorical question: What is your recourse when society turns against the will of the people and turns against their interests?
Posted by: Brian at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (nczzS)

don't know a peaceful solution
Posted by: MAC V SOG

There are no peaceful solutions, but there ARE permanent solutions.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2022 12:02 PM (9uCBG)

381 They need to, "educate" their leadership. And by "educate" I mean run out of the country.
Posted by: Seems Legit at December 02, 2022 12:01 PM (DcKNO)

on chains.

Behind a New Holland T8.

Or in front. I'm not picky.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 02, 2022 12:02 PM (6FeV1)

382 369 Things are getting frisky in the Netherlands.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (ZLI7S)

I'd like to see their government go down, and get rid of Gates' friends

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 12:03 PM (Zzbjj)

383 Things are getting frisky in the Netherlands.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (ZLI7S)
++++
In what respect?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 12:03 PM (t0OGg)

384 12...I'd like to see a gradual, natural decline to something more like 2-3B, but unless something changes, it might even plummet beyond that, if people don't start having babies again.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 11:03 AM (eOEVl)

Populations naturally flow and ebb.
The west is already past the replacement point. If i have read correctly, so is...China.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 02, 2022 12:04 PM (Rbu5d)

385 When billionaires buy farmland and let it go fallow, or send the food grown on it somewhere to feed elites while plebes starve, the courts will affirm that he has the right to do as he wishes with private property. The police will enforce the laws on theft if you try to interdict the food from leaving the area.
The Law can be an Ass, and so can those who enforce them. Everything the Third Reich did was "legal".
So it will be again.
Posted by: Kermit sips his tea

You don't have to steal the food to keep it from leaving the area.

Just sayin.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2022 12:04 PM (9uCBG)

386 More than a few sci-fi writers have speculated that we could built habitats in LEO (low earth orbit) which could be powered by solar energy and fed by hydroponics and other methods. The setup for Elysium is based on something like this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 12:04 PM (trdmm)

387 How good is their security?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 02, 2022 12:04 PM (7hGTC)

388 383 Things are getting frisky in the Netherlands.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 12:00 PM (ZLI7S)
++++
In what respect?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 12:03 PM (t0OGg)

=========

It's evening, so the middle class is getting around to having their occasional sex adventures.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at December 02, 2022 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

389 Communism just hasn't been done right yet.

That's why it hasn't worked yet.

Duh.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 02, 2022 12:04 PM (diVr5)

390 >>> rolling terrain not used for farming today can be put into production using terracing or grading. Not cheap, but it could be done.
Posted by: Gref
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I think the rolling terrain is pasture.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 12:04 PM (5TmO/)

391 Populations naturally flow and ebb.
The west is already past the replacement point. If i have read correctly, so is...China.

If you mean that their pop is going to plummet, you are correct. It's already unavoidable.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 12:04 PM (eOEVl)

392 In what respect?
Posted by: Joe Mannix

The government nixing 3000 farms.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2022 12:04 PM (9uCBG)

393 379 The U.S. was a founding member of the UN, is the host country and largest contributor. The US Ambassador & the representatives for the General Assembly, appointed by the B administration, are also some interesting folks.

Posted by: Lola at December 02, 2022 12:02 PM (NIYa7)

The UN and its predecessor the League of Nations were both US babies. A mixture of attempt to assert authority over the world and genuine (stupid and naive) internationalist belief.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 12:05 PM (eYoxG)

394 More than a few sci-fi writers have speculated that we could built habitats in LEO (low earth orbit) which could be powered by solar energy and fed by hydroponics and other methods. The setup for Elysium is based on something like this.

I've long been an advocate of space-based solar. I think we ultimately will depend on it.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 02, 2022 12:05 PM (eOEVl)

395 Yes, a simple, don't know the technical term, transfer of authority. Checking accounts instead of X re configure them to X and Y, other accounts can have POD or beneficiary. Much can be made into a simple clear transfer.

Posted by: Braenyard

Most 'real' property, retirement and investment accounts, etc. allow beneficiary deeding that bypasses probate in most if not all states.

States have different monetary maximums on 'small estates' but probate and its onerous rules is often easier and simplified for 'small' estates. One complication though is ownership of real property in a number of states--that really introduces problems in probate.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2022 12:05 PM (bDjBG)

396 >>In what respect?

The farmers have taken to the roads again in their tractors to demonstrate. The government has sent out heavy equipment like frontend loaders to turn them over and push them out of the roads and are arresting the farmers.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 12:06 PM (ZLI7S)

397 Love, love, love Philanthropath. Dead on correct.

Posted by: sidney at December 02, 2022 12:06 PM (Uy/WF)

398 376 369 The Dutch farmers go into open, armed rebellion. The Dutch government claims it's under attack, and calls for NATO to intervene under Article Five. The 82nd Airborne lands, and promptly has a Heineken Kegger.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2022 12:06 PM (lz5hY)

399 nood

Posted by: Receive gp's Free No-Obligation Information Packet at December 02, 2022 12:06 PM (24fqN)

400 388. Urban people tend to be very stupid about farming and agriculture. Bloomberg is an example, but there are millions who seem to think the food they buy just materializes somehow. I recall a group of women pondering this question and saying "who need these farmers, I can get all the food I want at Waldbaums"

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 12:06 PM (Zzbjj)

401 >> “We just don’t need the vast majority of the population in today’s world.”

Well, that's queer, because, literally the entire Western World's economic system is predicated on limitless growth.

Sounds like the WEF is looking to fix that glitch with something reminiscent of a, Final Solution.

I very much fear trouble in the fuselage Frederick.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 02, 2022 12:06 PM (up/3i)

402 Bullets. Lots and lots of bullets.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Newsletter?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at December 02, 2022 12:06 PM (Bd6X8)

403 Darrell ... I'm really not picking on you. Don't take it like that. But I am making a point, that you conveniently put on the table.

Every damn modern infringement on the common man, from the Twentieth Century on, has been made in the name of efficiency. Just give up a little autonomy - it'll be worth it, you see - because everything will just work so much better. Come on, be part of the team, be a Good American, go with the flow.

Fuck efficiency. I value personal freedom first. Chaos is the price of it. I'll accept that chaos. Efficiency is the way you suddenly find yourself as part of a herd. Hell, the Third Reich was efficient.
Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 11:59 AM (66r+l)

Trust me - I appreciate your point, and the spirit in which it was given. I think my response minimized the seriousness of your criticism, and I agree with you, actually. While the problem is 'political', it is by no means a small problem. In fact, it's probably the biggest one, by far. It's why technocratic solutions will *never* get implemented. They may be 'right', but they go against human nature and reality. It's why we'll never have philosopher kings. They just don't work.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 12:07 PM (9miN6)

404 More than a few sci-fi writers have speculated that we could built habitats in LEO (low earth orbit) which could be powered by solar energy and fed by hydroponics and other methods. The setup for Elysium is based on something like this.

I used to be interested in that kind of stuff. But I don't believe in it. Because I've never seen how they're going to figure out the problem of water.

Water is the key. More than food, and more than soil. Its the most important substance on Earth, and it's finite. It's only not valuable because we luckily have so damn much of it.

But, if you don't already do so - try this. Throw everything on your back, in a pack, and go out in the woods. Stay as long as you can. The limiting factor, always, is water.

Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 12:07 PM (66r+l)

405 You force the woman to abort the kid? You kill Little Mr. Almost Dead with a swift and judicious machine-that-goes-ping across the noggin? What's the protocol here?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 02, 2022 11:58 AM (6FeV1)

Get on the cart, old man!

Posted by: Monty Python sees the future at December 02, 2022 12:07 PM (FCbAQ)

406 380 Rhetorical question: What is your recourse when society turns against the will of the people and turns against their interests?
Posted by: Brian at December 02, 2022 11:53 AM (nczzS)

There's a very famous answer that you should know:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, - That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 12:07 PM (trdmm)

407 I recall a group of women pondering this question and saying "who need these farmers, I can get all the food I want at Waldbaums"
Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 12:06 PM (Zzbjj)

That, or they think "farming" is just throwing some seed on the ground and waiting.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 02, 2022 12:07 PM (6FeV1)

408 The west is already past the replacement point. If i have read correctly, so is...China.
Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 02, 2022 12:04 PM (Rbu5d)
++++
China is in a demographic death spiral. The 1-child policy was implemented at precisely the wrong time and cut down what was to be China's last gigantic generation. Now it's been reversed (it's now a 3-child policy) but they're getting no takers. Their birthrate is well into "fertility trap" territory and their population is going to collapse, not decline. Korea will be behind them, but not by much. The West will follow on a slower decline.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 12:07 PM (t0OGg)

409 The farmers have taken to the roads again in their tractors to demonstrate. The government has sent out heavy equipment like frontend loaders to turn them over and push them out of the roads and are arresting the farmers.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 12:06 PM (ZLI7S)

World Economic Fascists

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2022 12:07 PM (Zzbjj)

410 100
If only we had a hacker with the ability to drain his entire bank account and holdings and transfer title to a few million bank accounts across the planet.

Heh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 02, 2022 11:17 AM (x0n13)

SBF, the planet turns it's lonely eyes to you...and your caterpillar girlfriend.

Posted by: Just Lily at December 02, 2022 12:08 PM (GhADz)

411 But, if you don't already do so - try this. Throw everything on your back, in a pack, and go out in the woods. Stay as long as you can. The limiting factor, always, is water.
Posted by: Jaguar at December 02, 2022 12:07 PM (66r+l)

Recycled urine can have a very spritzy taste, I'm told.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 12:09 PM (trdmm)

412 What's the protocol here?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 02, 2022 11:58 AM (6FeV1)

"Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; nor about the body, what you will put on. Life is more than food, and the body is more than clothing. Consider the ravens, for they neither sow nor reap, which have neither storehouse nor barn; and God feeds them. Of how much more value are you than the birds? And which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature? If you then are not able to do the least, why are you anxious for the rest? Consider the lilies, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; and yet I say to you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. If then God so clothes the grass, which today is in the field and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, how much more will He clothe you, O you of little faith?

And do not seek what you should eat or what you should drink, nor have an anxious mind. For all these things the nations of the world seek after, and your Father knows that you need these things. But seek [first] the kingdom of God, and all these things shall be added to you."

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 02, 2022 12:09 PM (MkuC5)

413
"Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead."

Die, Davos, die!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 02, 2022 12:09 PM (pNxlR)

414 ...And do not seek what you should eat or what you should drink, nor have an anxious mind. For all these things the nations of the world seek after, and your Father knows that you need these things. But seek [first] the kingdom of God, and all these things shall be added to you."
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at December 02, 2022 12:09 PM (MkuC5)

For me, this is the real solution. Not a philosopher-king. But the Lord.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2022 12:10 PM (9miN6)

415 It infuriates me how people don't realize how much of our actual freedom depends on the ICE automobile.

Our entire society (and distances involved) have evolved around it, such that if all forced into EVs, we are effectively cut off from our customary "range" of activities (and family, friends, weekend houses, etc) which in our current lives are often hundreds of miles away.

I hate people invoking Nazi's casually, but it always struck me at how my father, who came here as a boy from Nazi occupied Europe would often marvel to me what a wonderful freedom we had to just be able to get in a car and drive where and when you wanted. Right now in Europe we're just beginning to see the "Environmental Emergency" flex in restricting charging in countries to designated times, conditions etc (apart from the inherent limitations in the range of EVs in the first place).

The degree of government/institutional control over your movement (including creeping imposition of social credit control) is exponentially greater for EVs as compared to the ICE. Yet here we are...

Posted by: Zek at December 02, 2022 12:10 PM (5FPX4)

416 Carnegie built libraries.

These guys are giving us the Soylent Green new deal. So generous of them.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 02, 2022 12:10 PM (fs1hN)

417 The government nixing 3000 farms.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2022 12:04 PM (9uCBG)

Actually it is nixing 3k farms through forced sales at the EU's demand so the land can be used to put in worker's housing for the BeNeLux countries since they want to focus on manufacturing.

And of course those workers will be coming from Africa and Turkey to live in controlled environments far nicer than the ones the Chinese offer.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2022 12:10 PM (xhaym)

418 UK (whistleblower funeral director about strange clots inside every vaccinated corpse) John O'looney states in an interview that our overlords *want* an uprising amongst the great unwashed, the better to march (UK) deplorables into one of *six* newly constructed mega prison compounds.

One of the mega prisons has it's own crematorium.

(I'll wager UN troops from China help out with hand-cuffs and teargas...well, yes; rifles too.)

Posted by: Ju at December 02, 2022 12:11 PM (aTmM/)

419 The Dutch farmers had already protested some time ago. They are not wimps. I hope they protest even more and I'm asking St. Titus Brandsma, the recently canonized Dutch priest who was killed in a concentration.camp for speaking against the Nazis to intercede for them. I don't think Fr. Titus would be any happier with authoritarians in the WEF or EU who want to "decrease the surplus population" either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2022 12:11 PM (Y5exi)

420 weforum.org › people › yuval-noah-harari
Yuval Noah Harari | World Economic Forum
Yuval Noah Harari.

Professor, Department of History, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Historian, philosopher and the author of the bestseller
----------------------

There's a job for the Mossad.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 12:11 PM (5TmO/)

421 The farmers have taken to the roads again in their tractors to demonstrate
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I hate that it has come to this, but the farmers need to use guns. And shame on their fellow citizens operating the equipment to push the farmers tractors off the roads.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 02, 2022 12:14 PM (fs1hN)

422 396 >>In what respect?

The farmers have taken to the roads again in their tractors to demonstrate. The government has sent out heavy equipment like frontend loaders to turn them over and push them out of the roads and are arresting the farmers.
Posted by: JackStraw
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The Netherlands is the 2nd largest food exporter in the whole fucking world.

Crazy

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 12:15 PM (5TmO/)

423 38..Why do you need universal basic incomes if you are wanting to depopulate the planet?
Why would you want to pay useless eaters? Why not just get rid of them?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2022 11:07 AM (9uCBG)

Slight of hand.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 02, 2022 12:16 PM (Rbu5d)

424 so how come we both have a soaring 8 Billion population soon AND a demographic crash of fewer births and negative replacement rates?

Can't have both

Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2022 12:16 PM (xhaym)

425 Time for Dutch flags and tractors icons in twotter bios?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 02, 2022 12:16 PM (fs1hN)

426 The Netherlands is the 2nd largest food exporter in the whole fucking world.

Crazy
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 12:15 PM (5TmO/)
++++
That means they have farms to spare for the grand experiment, comrade!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2022 12:18 PM (t0OGg)

427 Okay, okay... I'll probably get righteously roasted for this, but what the hell.

I was bored the other night, and while scrolling through Amazon Prime, "Left Behind" popped up. Yeah... the Kirk Cameron cheesy movie based on some guy's books on how Revelation could come to pass. Christian fear mongering at its best, right?

But holy hell -- substitute in a couple of the elements and the whole silly enterprise starts looking like the post-covid outbreak world. Swap the WEF for the UN and it gets downright spooky. It's like the biblical version of They Live.

And here I thought Revelation was going to be a long way off.

Posted by: red speck at December 02, 2022 12:19 PM (gS3OW)

428
Nood -- Ye gods

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 02, 2022 12:21 PM (pNxlR)

429 What about the Biden crime family? And use them to take down the leaders of both parties who are paid agents or blackmail targets of the Chinese!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 02, 2022 12:47 PM (oVJIF)

430 "The UN and its predecessor the League of Nations were both US babies. A mixture of attempt to assert authority over the world and genuine (stupid and naive) internationalist belief.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 02, 2022 12:05 PM (eYoxG)"

I don't believe for a second that the real decision-makers had good intentions with either the League of Nations or the UN.

Posted by: somedood at December 02, 2022 12:52 PM (QBv/U)

431 "What Can We Do To Counter the Power of Billionaire Philanthropaths?"

ole Tom Jefferson's quote rings more TRUE (IMHO) every minute, hour, and Day:
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Posted by: Katfish at December 02, 2022 01:05 PM (+Z2md)

432 Without Trump or a some other unknown outsider firebrand none of that is possible. Desanctimonious certainly can't do this. His handlers will never allow it. Sorry. Get over your NeverTrump vapors or you're stuck with the party of Fail. It's that simple.

Posted by: MikeN at December 02, 2022 01:08 PM (J/795)

433 Rand Paul is probably our only hope.

Posted by: MikeN at December 02, 2022 01:11 PM (J/795)

434 >What can we do to stop the philanthropaths?

Helicopters.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at December 02, 2022 01:58 PM (/0tPK)

435 lead vitamins ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at December 02, 2022 02:14 PM (5cMUX)

436 A projectile at 1,450 fps in each of these dogs. . . .

Posted by: Despise Corporatist Dogs at December 02, 2022 03:30 PM (5DfsO)

437 The only viable thing I can think of is to decimate corporate legal protections. They are an artificial, man made construct that may have been valuable at one time, but seem to have become more destructive to the world over time.

Maybe time to reform political gift giving as well. Just like with Zuck bucks, you cannot give targeted donations. You can donate to the state, local, county, or federal GENERAL FUND only. Like giving more tax dollars.

Posted by: deadrody at December 02, 2022 04:29 PM (kYmXc)

438 Imagine a horrible behavior used against you and your friends. Call it "lawfare". If you stand on principle and refuse to participate, it is working and you invite more of it. This new thing exists in the world and your principles won't stop it. If you want to control it, you have to seize it and use against your enemies. Think about mail-in balloting. Lawfare. Non-violent protesting. Standing on principles may get you applause but mostly it just gets you hurt - or dead.

Posted by: richard at December 02, 2022 06:11 PM (xGLnO)

439 Barry Soetero stated that Yuval Noah Harari was his favorite author.

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