China's "White Paper Revolution:" A Possible Model for the United States

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Via Newsweek

I've read two different explanations -- or hints, really -- for the meaning of the white paper (also called "blank paper" or "A4 paper"). The first is that protesters are calling for a white revolution, as distinguished from the various "color revolutions" that Western spy agencies promote in countries they intend to destabilize. I guess the idea is that a "white revolution" would be a truly organic, real, native revolution, not a fake revolution crafted by the CIA and MI-6.

The other explanation is that the white paper symbolizes what citizens are permitted to disagree with the government about, which is to say, nothing at all. And also, what citizens are permitted to hide from China's surveillance network. Which is, again, nothing.

China continues cracking down on protesters -- many of whom only hold a blank sheet of paper.


The regime understands the blank paper is a challenge. Here, a student holding a blank piece of paper is carried away by the state police as he shouts out, "Give me liberty or give me death!"


The White House issued the most tepid of statements regarding Joe Biden's business partners in the Chinese Communist Party, who have -- what's that word again? -- kompromat on him.

The White House reacted to news of widespread protests of coronavirus lockdowns in China, issuing a mild statement supporting peaceful protests.

"We've long said everyone has the right to peacefully protest, here in the United States and around the world," read a statement from the White House National Security Council shared with reporters. "This includes in the PRC."

The statement was released Monday morning after critics pointed out that the White House had not said anything over the weekend to defend the protesters.

During the White House press briefing on Monday afternoon, National Security Council Coordinator for Strategic Communications John Kirby repeated a similar message, noting that the president supported the overarching right to peaceful protest.

"The president's not going to speak for protesters around the world, they're speaking for themselves," Kirby said when asked by reporters if he had a specific message to the protesters in China.

But Kirby and White House failed to condemn China's violent authoritarian crackdowns of the protests or their attempt to censor protesters online.

John Ratcliffe mentioned on Tucker Carlson that the protests started about covid but are now about anger with the Chinese communist regime generally. And that no protester has ever dared demand regime change before. Protesters have cautiously asked for "reforms" or "democracy" before -- they have not demanded "resign, Xi, motherf***er" as one man does in a video below the fold.

Ratcliffe also noted that few on the American neoliberal left have anything at all to say about this remarkable revolution -- or China's brutal repression of it. But they can't say anything about it -- because they all supported maximalism authoritarian forever lockdowns themselves. So what's Anthony Fauci going to say? What's Joe Biden going to say? What's Gretchen Whitmer going to say? What's Randi Weingartner going to say? What's Kathy Hochul going to say?

What's The Dispatch going to say, for that matter? What's The Bulwark going to say?

What's Allah "My Upper Middle College-Educated Laptop Class Authoritarian Goonsquad Twitter Palz are My Heroes" Pundit going to say?

What's Taylor Lorenz going to say?

No, don't bother guessing; she already attacked her own employer and defended the Chinse Communist Party's creation of new internment camps for those infected with covid.

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They all supported the lockdowns and mandates, and all supported the crushing of those opposing them, the theft of money from the accounts of the Canadian convoy truckers, for example.

Here's some extreme Xi-ism they can get behind. Content warning -- Chinese thugs force a woman to deliver a baby outside, in the snow, yards away from the hospital, because she doesn't have a negative covid test handy to gain entrance.

But Biden and Fauci and Co. can't criticize Xi -- they're all Disciples of Xi.

The Chinese government is emulating the US government and its corporate cronies, by which I mean it's censoring all messages that criticize the government's covid response. One way the protesters are trying to evade that censorship is by quoting Xi's past statements, out-of-context, repurposing them, making him sound like he's supporting the cause of freedom.

Here, they take an old quote where he supports "the people," and warns people that when "the people" organize themselves, nothing can stand against them.

Here's a cute exchange between protester and regime shill: A regime shill says that we shouldn't have any foreign interference in Chinese politics. A protester says, Foreign interference? You mean, like Marx and Engels?

The protests look pretty big here:

Echoes of Tianamin as the tanks begin rolling into the streets:

To hide the rising tide of protest from the public, China is deploying a bot army, of sorts. They're flooding social media in cities with a lot of unrest with a huge number of soft-core porn ads and ads for escort services, to bury political messaging under sleaze.

Numerous Chinese-language accounts, some dormant for months or years, came to life early Sunday and started spamming the service with links to escort services and other adult offerings alongside city names.

The result: For hours, anyone searching for posts from those cities and using the Chinese names for the locations would see pages and pages of useless tweets instead of information about the daring protests as they escalated to include calls for Communist Party leaders to resign...

The campaign was spotted by researchers at Stanford University and elsewhere. Stanford Internet Observatory Director Alex Stamos said his team is working to determine how widespread and effective it is...

"Fifty percent porn, 50 percent protests," said one U.S. government contractor and China expert, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence issues.

In other words, they're doing the same thing in Shanghai that they've been doing in America for eight years.

Tucker Carlson's report from last night is very good.

Posted by: Ace at 04:06 PM




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1 The world is a mess.

Posted by: Ann at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (rBu2O)

2 not first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (uNylN)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (Zz0t1)

4 #BringBackOurGhouls

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 04:07 PM (Zz0t1)

5 color revolution here. we're such pushovers.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 29, 2022 04:08 PM (MLrvz)

6
I doubt most Americans have the guts these Chinese do in standing up against "emergency powers".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 29, 2022 04:09 PM (MoZTd)

7 This is not going to end well for the Chinese people. Once the party decides this has gone on long enough, Tiananmen Square all over again.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 29, 2022 04:10 PM (uNylN)

8 In China, you're free to criticize the United States all you want but not the Chinese government.

In America, you can't criticize China or the US government.

Who is more free?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 29, 2022 04:10 PM (KMYsd)

9 Taylor Lorenz is stupid. There IS immunity to Covid. It's why those NOT vaxxed are NOT dying by the thousands.

And, if you were 'lucky' enough to have had SARS, you are immune to the BASE PROTIEN of the Coronavirus and are likely immune to the REST of them, showing only symptoms of a minor cold when infected.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 04:10 PM (Zz0t1)

10 How long before "8.5x11" is declared a dogwhistle?

Two days after 4chan decides that it would be super-funny.

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 29, 2022 04:11 PM (44ww/)

11 FJB

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 29, 2022 04:11 PM (JChPb)

12
ISO, feh.

ANSI standards are papers for winners. If you can't adjust for margin without a square root of 2, then you probably shouldn't have paper to begin with.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:11 PM (oINRc)

13 Military OCD kicking in, those are not tanks in the video above. They are armored personnel carriers (APC's). Huge difference.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 29, 2022 04:11 PM (uNylN)

14 I just watched a video of Italy immunity, where the findings showed vaccination largely did fuck all, while natural immunity as a result of 50% of the population getting the omicron variant caused a hugely dramatic drop in infection and mortality rates of the commie virus

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 04:11 PM (VTu1l)

15 In China, you're free to criticize the United States all you want but not the Chinese government. In America, you can't criticize China or the US government.. . .
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Those two entities are largely the same so. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2022 04:12 PM (qoGsy)

16 gotta love that the outgoing congress is going to saddle us with an inflationary, leftwing omnibus spending bill. At least our democracy isn't threatened by ballot harvesting, closing polling stations in the guise of malfunctions, and reelecting a party with a 20 percent approval rating.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 29, 2022 04:12 PM (MLrvz)

17 they have not demanded "resign, Xi, motherf***er" as one man does in a video below the fold.

Samuel L Jackson gets round, man

Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 04:12 PM (786Ro)

18
Lawyers like legal size paper because it resembles dollar bills.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 29, 2022 04:12 PM (MoZTd)

19 Hunter must not have put his crack pipe completely out. Biden's Secret Service rental cars catch fire:

shorturl.at/dikr8

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at November 29, 2022 04:12 PM (xxG/v)

20 I just finished teaching 1984 to my seniors. They are bonkers excited to watch the protests in China.
Down with Big Brother!

Posted by: Jmel at November 29, 2022 04:13 PM (bVhJi)

21 C DC, plug this

Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 04:13 PM (786Ro)

22 Yeah this will all go away and we'll go back to swimming in Chinese money.

Maybe we should release another virus

Posted by: globalist uniparty WEF lizard people at November 29, 2022 04:13 PM (bzpWH)

23 The old lady is wrong. You do get immunity from covid after recovery, presuming that you didn't get the shot.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 29, 2022 04:13 PM (yQpMk)

24 The regime understands the blank paper is a challenge. Here, a student holding a blank piece of paper is carried away by the state police as he shouts out, "Give me liberty or give me death!"
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Now contrast this with a certain GOPe-type that certified a fraudulent "vote" over going to jail.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:13 PM (isQS2)

25 "WHITE REVOLUTION" IS RACIST, YO

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (iFTx/)

26 The white paper method is not a proper model for the US. We have freedom of speech. Despite what our government and their big tech enforcers say.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (lTGtQ)

27 @6 Hadrian the Seventh-The streets of China in these pics is what our streets should have looked like counter protesting the antifa/BLM riots, the covid shutdown and the 2020 Election steal. I think if we had protested riots and shutdowns en masse the left would have thought twice about stealing 2020.

Posted by: JROD (Rick Perry/Scott Walker 2024) at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (IlL6s)

28 BTW, Fauci in his farewell speech the other day was trying to explain how hard he's always worked by saying he's "never left anything on the field".

Can someone please give him a swirly?

Posted by: Ian S. at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (ZGrMX)

29 just finished teaching 1984 to my seniors. They are bonkers excited to watch the protests in China.
Down with Big Brother!
Posted by: Jmel

Excellent. Poison the well when you can.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (vCY3B)

30 I guess the idea is that a "white revolution" would be a truly organic, real, native revolution, not a fake revolution crafted by the CIA and MI-6.
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Probably redundant. There is no chance Western intelligence would ever dare to consider the possibility of perhaps thinking about maybe at some point in the undefined future taking some action that would potentially have any anticommunist outcome, no matter how trivial such an outcome might be.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (t0OGg)

31 If it's endlessly evolving, then what's the point of a booster made for a variant that died out weeks, months, or even years ago?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (LvTSG)

32 I saw Goonsquad Palz open for Cocteau Twins in '89

Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (786Ro)

33 China claims they've only had a few thousand die from COVID. The US claims we've lost a million.

The left pretends both sets of numbers are real.

And yet - if the Chinese numbers are real we should ban the mRNA jabs and buy/steal the Chinese vaccine (which is a real vaccine). Of course Fauci and the FNM tell me the Chinese vaccine doesn't work.

So...here we are again with the left believing a whole head full of things that are in direction opposition to each other.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2022 04:15 PM (ESjRY)

34 White paper revolution? It should be symbolic of the people's wish not to be subjected to the rule of the vampires in DC, Brussels, Beijing.

Could it also be white paper to show the blood spatter when the protesters are killed? The authorities will not like that one.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 29, 2022 04:15 PM (3JfbU)

35 Every revolution in China ends the same way: with a pile of corpses and no changes. Yes, people are fed up and enraged, but the government does not care how many people have to die for them to remain in power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:15 PM (cP/Ah)

36 Xi would rather they go paperless.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2022 04:15 PM (63Dwl)

37 Even China is beset with White Supremacists of Color!!

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:16 PM (krQz2)

38 China teaching us how to fight for freedom. How we have fallen.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 29, 2022 04:16 PM (H8QX8)

39 WHITE paper?
Sounds rayciss

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 29, 2022 04:16 PM (Kd4bG)

40 You do get immunity from covid after recovery, presuming that you didn't get the shot.

The response addon at the bottom is more correct: you are greatly resistant to getting the Wuhan Flu in any variant once you've had it, much more than if you have not, and especially if you've had the shot.

Its not exactly "immunity" but that's not what the term "herd immunity" means anyway, its a way of expressing how if enough people in a community get a virus, then the community is very strongly protected against it spreading and infecting people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (cP/Ah)

41 Every revolution in China ends the same way: with a pile of corpses and no changes. Yes, people are fed up and enraged, but the government does not care how many people have to die for them to remain in power.

The strategies of Gandhi and King worked because the people they were using them on were Christians and had limits on what they would do.

The CCP...and the Biden administration..are not and do not.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (ESjRY)

42
Could it also be white paper to show the blood spatter when the protesters are killed? The authorities will not like that one.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 29, 2022 04:15 PM (3JfbU)

__________

Kill Whitey

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (MoZTd)

43 Chick in the middle has some sweater puppies.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (v0R5T)

44 White Paper Supremacy

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (63Dwl)

45 The white paper method is not a proper model for the US. We have freedom of speech. Despite what our government and their big tech enforcers say.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 29, 2022 04:14 PM (lTGtQ)
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We only have "free speech" on paper (i.e., the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution).

In practice, if I say the wrong word to the wrong person, I lose my job and possibly my entire ability to earn a living for the foreseeable future. Even commenting "anonymously" here is a risk.

How much free speech do we have again?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (YIVH2)

46 John Ratcliffe mentioned on Tucker Carlson that the protests started about covid but are now about anger with the Chinese communist regime generally. And that no protester has ever dared demand regime change before. Protesters have cautiously asked for "reforms" or "democracy" before -- they have not demanded "resign, Xi, motherf***er" as one man does in a video below the fold.
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They have, and it started recently (though before this). The current kerfuffle - if it's real, and if it's meaningful - is ostensibly about COVID but before this, back in September, there were some anti-Xi demonstrations. Not anti-Party or anti-CCP, but anti-Xi. The cynic in me says that it was a fake/astroturf operation by Xi's opponents ahead of the Party Congress. If it was, it failed.

Is this something similar? I have no idea. It might be, but it also might not. China's having serious problems and a lot of it is downstream from Xi's insane "Zero COVID" policy - or Zero COVID gets the blame for it. We get a lot of the blame for it, too - Chinese state media talks about how the sinister Americans are imperialists controlling chip supplies to harm China, in cahoots with a breakaway region.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (t0OGg)

47 Every revolution in China ends the same way: with a pile of corpses and no changes. Yes, people are fed up and enraged, but the government does not care how many people have to die for them to remain in power.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:15 PM (cP/Ah)
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Actually, many Chinese rulers have feared the "Judgment of Heaven", in which times real change is created.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (krQz2)

48
The other explanation is that the white paper symbolizes what citizens are permitted to disagree with the government about, which is to say, nothing at all.

this one

Posted by: Miklos, who was in Berlin in 1989 doing currency bidnis at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (NOVDU)

49 > To hide the rising tide of protest from the public, China is deploying a bot army, of sorts. They're flooding social media in cities with a lot of unrest with a huge number of soft-core porn ads and ads for escort services, to bury political messaging under sleaze.

Also, Apple changed their iOS Air Drop options so protesters can no longer pass each other information through spontaneous, direct connection wifi. This was one of the main methods of electronic communication the protesters were using.

American companies are assisting the CCP's crackdown on protestors.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (j2Xg6)

50 Now THOSE protestors are BRAVE. They are risking their LIVES to get a taste of freedom.

Fuck pAntifa and BLM.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 04:18 PM (Zz0t1)

51 >>>They have, and it started recently (though before this). The current kerfuffle - if it's real, and if it's meaningful - is ostensibly about COVID but before this, back in September, there were some anti-Xi demonstrations. Not anti-Party or anti-CCP, but anti-Xi. The cynic in me says that it was a fake/astroturf operation by Xi's opponents ahead of the Party Congress. If it was, it failed.

ah okay, thanks.

Posted by: ace at November 29, 2022 04:18 PM (C1Zwz)

52
Every revolution in China ends the same way: with a pile of corpses and no changes. Yes, people are fed up and enraged, but the government does not care how many people have to die for them to remain in power.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:15 PM (cP/Ah)

It's very unlikely to end in a regime collapse. But it's a non-zero chance. Here's praying for that.

Normally, I'd ask "who cares? Not Chinese, not my circus, not my monkeys."

But in this case, I think a regime change in China would go a long way towards destabilizing the evil regime in the United States, so hell yeah - bring China down, Chinese people! I think we'd follow shortly after.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:18 PM (oINRc)

53 Are we not going to talk about the first lady in the first picture in a cream colored shirt's vast tracts of land?

It's like I don't even know you people.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2022 04:18 PM (ekL79)

54 Chinese thugs force a woman to deliver a baby outside, in the snow, yards away from the hospital, because she doesn't have a negative covid test handy to gain entrance.
**

Horrible
Under the on child policy, they would chase pregnant women and force them into an abortion

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 29, 2022 04:18 PM (Kd4bG)

55 When was the last time the US backed the people over their own corrupt governments?

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (rbKZ6)

56 The Biden regime came out with lusty support of the Iran revolution going on now, supposedly to make up for the sins of the Obama years and how he refused to support them vocally then. All that "lead from behind"crap. They want to be on the right side of history this time.

The Biden regime's silence on China's white revolution shows they learned NOTHING. And they mean nothing. And they stand for nothing.

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (Pdtmp)

57 But Biden and Fauci and Co. can't criticize Xi -- they're all Disciples of Xi.
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They *love* Xi. All of the elites do. Am I the only one who remembers various Western officials and academics - from Europe to here to Australia - lamenting that Western populations are just so hard to control because they don't have a totalitarian hyperstate like those brilliant and effective Chinese do?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (t0OGg)

58 I have fb - should I change my profile pic to.a white paper in front of my face?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (Kd4bG)

59 Keep in mind that this started after people died in an apartment fire, when they were confined to their home. We haven't tried that yet in this country so we don't know what our reaction would be.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (uz3Px)

60 I think Xi was speaking Esperanto.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (v0R5T)

61 The Biden regime's silence on China's white revolution shows they learned NOTHING. And they mean nothing. And they stand for nothing.

Look fat, the Chairman's checks still cash ok? So he's alright in my books.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (ESjRY)

62 > Taylor Lorenz is stupid.

Are you talking about the elderly spinster Taylor Lorenz? Yes, she's very stupid.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (j2Xg6)

63 Well you know what the right's problem with Karl Marx *really* is.

Posted by: ... at November 29, 2022 04:20 PM (/HQcE)

64 Military OCD kicking in, those are not tanks in the video above. They are armored personnel carriers (APC's). Huge difference.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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Thank you.

Beat me to it.

If it doesn't have a turret and a cannon sticking out of it, it's not a tank.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:20 PM (isQS2)

65 The only reason I care about foreigners is to get their elites out of my pockets.

Viewed from that perspective, this is something I can care about and support.

Posted by: Oschisms at November 29, 2022 04:20 PM (0A5+1)

66 57 But Biden and Fauci and Co. can't criticize Xi -- they're all Disciples of Xi.
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They *love* Xi. All of the elites do. Am I the only one who remembers various Western officials and academics - from Europe to here to Australia - lamenting that Western populations are just so hard to control because they don't have a totalitarian hyperstate like those brilliant and effective Chinese do?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (t0OGg)

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I remember Obama waxing poetic about the powers of the Chinese government while he was president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:20 PM (LvTSG)

67 >>>53 Are we not going to talk about the first lady in the first picture in a cream colored shirt's vast tracts of land?


I see only two sad pimples.

Posted by: JAV Super Model Rin Aoki at November 29, 2022 04:20 PM (C1Zwz)

68
We haven't tried that yet in this country so we don't know what our reaction would be.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 29, 2022 04:19 PM (uz3Px

I know my countrymen.

The answer is: "slavish acquiescence," as it always is.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:20 PM (oINRc)

69 To hide the rising tide of protest from the public, China is deploying a bot army, of sorts. They're flooding social media in cities with a lot of unrest with a huge number of soft-core porn ads and ads for escort services, to bury political messaging under sleaze.
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There are armies of these guys. The CCP censors social media actively, but the online message-pushers are a big group. It ain't enough to censor opposition, you have to reinforce The Message at all times, however heavy-handed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:21 PM (t0OGg)

70 The White House issued the most tepid of statements

Why?

Because the President of the United States is a STOOGE OF THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2022 04:21 PM (Wl6Ns)

71 Taylor should get a bubble suit and live her tear stained life.

Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2022 04:21 PM (ZdaMQ)

72 Keep in mind that this started after people died in an apartment fire, when they were confined to their home. We haven't tried that yet in this country so we don't know what our reaction would be.

Remember the scene in The Patriot were the British looked a bunch of people in a building and set it on fire? The British didn't actually do that (though that leader DID kill men trying to surrender) and the left had a shit fit over Gibson putting it in the movie.

And here we have the Chinese literally doing the thing (as they say) and...crickets.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2022 04:21 PM (ESjRY)

73 This looks like the Fastimes Paper Sniff.

Posted by: JROD (Rick Perry/Scott Walker 2024) at November 29, 2022 04:21 PM (IlL6s)

74 53
Are we not going to talk about the first lady in the first picture in a cream colored shirt's vast tracts of land?

It's like I don't even know you people.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2022 04:18 PM (ekL79)
.......

see 43

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 04:21 PM (v0R5T)

75 "So what's Anthony Fauci going to say? What's Joe Biden going to say? What's Gretchen Whitmer going to say? What's Randi Weingartner going to say? What's Kathy Hochul going to say?

What's The Dispatch going to say, for that matter? What's The Bulwark going to say?

What's Allah "My Upper Middle College-Educated Laptop Class Authoritarian Goonsquad Twitter Palz are My Heroes" Pundit going to say?

What's Taylor Lorenz going to say?"

What's Mitch McConnell going to say?

Hunter?

Strange how the propaganda organs, which feed at the same pig trough, don't ask CCP stooges to denounce China.

Incidentally, this is how you can tell the "Ukraine war" is a money laundering operation in the United States. You NEVER will see any action taken against China. None, nada, zilch. The Junta will mutter something like "China had better punish Russia!" But there never is a consequence stated if they do not.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:21 PM (kJLpK)

76 Also, Apple changed their iOS Air Drop options so protesters can no longer pass each other information through spontaneous, direct connection wifi. This was one of the main methods of electronic communication the protesters were using.

American companies are assisting the CCP's crackdown on protestors.

Posted by: bonhomme



I wouldn't call Apple or Goolag American companies; in reality, they are anti-American.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 29, 2022 04:21 PM (lTGtQ)

77 You can get COVID over and over again

Really? From the way decrepit spinster crone Taylor acts, you'd think you get it the once and then you're dead.

Posted by: spindrift at November 29, 2022 04:22 PM (h5TKJ)

78 American companies are assisting the CCP's crackdown on protestors.
Posted by: bonhomme
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JPW
F**k Apple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uS8tUbdBNc

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:22 PM (isQS2)

79 "There is no lasting immunity to COVID; so get your vaccine, booster, booster, booster, and booster, haterz!"

Posted by: Catherine at November 29, 2022 04:22 PM (ZSsrh)

80 only problem is, she appears to be wearing a bra

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 04:22 PM (v0R5T)

81 But in this case, I think a regime change in China would go a long way towards destabilizing the evil regime in the United States

Yeah, the left views China not only as a money source, but an example of "good Communism" and believe it works there. Russia let them down, but they still have their hopes pinned on China.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:22 PM (cP/Ah)

82 Err, PJW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uS8tUbdBNc

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:22 PM (isQS2)

83 Sadly I don't think we're going to see much in the way of results from this in the short run.

Any sort of concessions by the government to more local governance does plant potential future seeds though.

The Chicom structure is basically an aristocratic republic, now run by primarily by the monarch.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 04:22 PM (eYoxG)

84 USA 1 - Iran 0

Gonna be a lot of dead Iranians.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2022 04:23 PM (ekL79)

85 How much free speech do we have again?

********

Liberty is never more than one generation away from extinction if you dont continue to fight for it.

I had my own meaningless battles but when push came to shove I voiced my objections, pushed back against the wokeness and I thankfully still remain employed and vax free. Even then I have to commit to the possibility that I can still lose my livelihood if I continue to push back.

That said, something about being willing to die on my feet than live on my knees, etc

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 04:23 PM (VTu1l)

86 I think it would be news when Taylor Lorenz got something correct. Because if she's written or opined on something, it's sure to be wrong.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 29, 2022 04:23 PM (a/dOO)

87 This looks like the Fastimes Paper Sniff.

LOL it does. Only people of a certain age really get that gag.

And yellow top girl only looks bosomy because she's 4' tall.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:23 PM (cP/Ah)

88 Her elbows are sticking out

Posted by: Hands at November 29, 2022 04:23 PM (786Ro)

89 NO!!! Steal technology, not musty old documents that are over 100 years old!

Posted by: CCP at November 29, 2022 04:23 PM (Sv58p)

90 The clot stops you from getting immunity to COVID.

So...no it isn't going away as long as people keep getting "boosters"

Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2022 04:23 PM (ESjRY)

91 There are armies of these guys. The CCP censors social media actively, but the online message-pushers are a big group. It ain't enough to censor opposition, you have to reinforce The Message at all times, however heavy-handed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:21 PM (t0OGg)

Exactly. If you listen to our propaganda organs, the only problem is Russian bots, though.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:23 PM (kJLpK)

92 Every revolution in China ends the same way: with a pile of corpses and no changes. Yes, people are fed up and enraged, but the government does not care how many people have to die for them to remain in power.

The strategies of Gandhi and King worked because the people they were using them on were Christians and had limits on what they would do.

The CCP...and the Biden administration..are not and do not.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2022 04:17 PM (ESjRY)

True enough but there is always the inflection point where some faction in the controlling side flips to the populace and suddenly it isn't a sure thing. It has happened many times before.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM (eoQWY)

93 You can get COVID over and over again


That's not how vaccines work.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM (ekL79)

94 But in this case, I think a regime change in China would go a long way towards destabilizing the evil regime in the United States, so hell yeah - bring China down, Chinese people! I think we'd follow shortly after.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:18 PM (oINRc)
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We'd certainly find out who's swimming naked.

The CCP doesn't control everything in our government (this administration's baffling China policy is, I think, a testament to that), but it controls a whole hell of a lot - especially in (but, of course, not limited to) Washington, DC and in California.

Would a CCP failure at home result in outright destabilization here? I kind of doubt it, but it would certainly have profound consequences and it would cause a shake-up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM (t0OGg)

95 I am loving the new reader added context on Twitter. It has to be making people like Lorenz batshit crazy.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM (5p7BC)

96 can't tell if she needs a paper bag

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM (v0R5T)

97 86 I think it would be news when Taylor Lorenz got something correct. Because if she's written or opined on something, it's sure to be wrong.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 29, 2022 04:23 PM (a/dOO)

Give Taylor time. She's only 23, you know.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM (kJLpK)

98 >>white revolution

I'm thinking that phrase is melting down filter algorithms all over the Western world.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM (5026n)

99 I wish I could photoshop that first photo to read "Kevin McCarthy's IQ". Maybe, "The number of times David French had an erection".

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM (82U+n)

100 77 You can get COVID over and over again

Really? From the way decrepit spinster crone Taylor acts, you'd think you get it the once and then you're dead.
Posted by: spindrift at November 29, 2022 04:22 PM (h5TKJ)

==========

Eventually the sniffles will kill you.

When you're frail and in your 80s, of course.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (LvTSG)

101 The Secret Police f'd up insisting on all those masks.

Posted by: DaveA at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (FhXTo)

102 the people in the pic at top are showing papers displaying all of lorenz taylor's original thoughts.

Posted by: gnat's local 678 at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (kFrCu)

103 Does anyone realize that a couple of months down the track there will be a real shortage of all good produced in China including pharmaceuticals? Do we have capacity to take up the slack?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (3JfbU)

104 I got told by a young gen z-er the other day that me calling Xi Winnie the Pooh is racist, because Pooh is yellow and has squinty eyes.

It's ridiculous and I ignored it, but it made me laugh.

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (Pdtmp)

105 sweater could be a little tighter

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (v0R5T)

106 You can get COVID over and over again
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Damn. Too bad there wasn't something like a vaccine for that.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (krQz2)

107 Any sort of concessions by the government to more local governance does plant potential future seeds though.

Sure. Change 6000 years of uninterrupted totalitarianism. We'll get right on that.

Posted by: CCP at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (yZlY6)

108 23- I have had Covid twice, both mild cases, but I know I got protection from it. I have been exposed a lot, I should have been sick every other week. No shot!

Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (ZdaMQ)

109 93 You can get COVID over and over again


That's not how vaccines work.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM (ekL79)

===========

"We can never develop a vaccine to the common cold because it changes too much and too quickly."
-My elementary school teachers

"We will make a vaccine for covid and it will work 100%."
-My government

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (LvTSG)

110 Potato Joe is a stupid SOB, but he's not insane. He's not going to release any kind of strong statement against his masters the CCP.


Posted by: Archer at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (gmo/4)

111 @87 Christopher R Taylor-Everybody thinks it's some political statement and all it is is a paper that just went through a mimeograph.

Posted by: JROD (Rick Perry/Scott Walker 2024) at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (IlL6s)

112
Yeah, the left views China not only as a money source, but an example of "good Communism" and believe it works there. Russia let them down, but they still have their hopes pinned on China.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:22 PM (cP/Ah)

Much of our "elected" government takes its orders directly from Beijing. All of our large corporations do. All of our academic institutions do. The Pentagon does - they're quite proud of it, in fact.

If they suddenly quit being a going concern, our evil regime would be thrashing around in pain and confusion for quite awhile.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (oINRc)

113 Sadly I don't think we're going to see much in the way of results from this in the short run.

Any sort of concessions by the government to more local governance does plant potential future seeds though.

The Chicom structure is basically an aristocratic republic, now run by primarily by the monarch.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 04:22 PM (eYoxG)

Xi already was unpopular because he was rolling back concessions made over the last generation. He has been purging other factions who might have had different views. Going back on that is neither easy nor safe for him, and a good way to get turfed out.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (eoQWY)

114 Exactly. If you listen to our propaganda organs, the only problem is Russian bots, though.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:23 PM (kJLpK)
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They *are* the "Russian Bots." Not literally, but practically. Our media runs the same way the CCP operations run, just at smaller human scale. They suppress opposition, yes, but that isn't enough. Every media company, sports league, reporter and public figure is pushing The Message. The Western media complex is a pure propaganda operation. The state and Big Tech crack down on opposition and the media complex pushes The Message.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (t0OGg)

115 see 43
Posted by: wth


Yeah. Saw that. It was posted while I was typing. Still. 43 in before mention?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (ekL79)

116 Does anyone realize that a couple of months down the track there will be a real shortage of all good produced in China including pharmaceuticals? Do we have capacity to take up the slack?
Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (3JfbU)

I hope we try.

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (44ww/)

117 I am loving the new reader added context on Twitter. It has to be making people like Lorenz batshit crazy.

People have complained for years about false stories getting way more reach than their corrections. This is how you start to solve that.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (ZGrMX)

118
Looks like there is no way to stop getting colds and flues.

Goodbye, flu world....

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (krQz2)

119 That poor woman who was forced to give birth outside of a hospital, in front of a crowd of people without the benefit of any privacy.

No different from an animal.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:27 PM (isQS2)

120 wow, you see things and wonder...how did the world get so fucked. I blame W. I wonder how much worse a Gore presidency would've been.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 29, 2022 04:27 PM (MLrvz)

121 I got told by a young gen z-er the other day that me calling Xi Winnie the Pooh is racist, because Pooh is yellow and has squinty eyes.

So this alleged non-racist's view of Chinese is that they have yellow skin and squinty eyes? Let me guess, they all are sinister and inscrutable as well? With long fingernails and constantly mispronounce R's?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:27 PM (cP/Ah)

122 104 nothing at all to do with his tummy!

Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2022 04:27 PM (ZdaMQ)

123 They're like extreme inkblot tests.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (FVME7)

124 90 The clot stops you from getting immunity to COVID.

So...no it isn't going away as long as people keep getting "boosters"
Posted by: 18-1

And that's the whole point of the "vaccine". That along with health and reproductive issues.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (Wy1BU)

125 The Secret Police f'd up insisting on all those masks.
Posted by: DaveA

What country are you referring to? Be more specific please.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (qoGsy)

126 Does anyone realize that a couple of months down the track there will be a real shortage of all good produced in China including pharmaceuticals? Do we have capacity to take up the slack?
Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (3JfbU)

I hope we try.
Posted by: Bourbonchicken
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You best pray, because we don't have the manufacturing capacity to do so.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (isQS2)

127 So much bullshit on china today. The blank paper is just to protest censorship. It's been going on for a while.

China Uncensored/Unscripted has been following this since the summer. Protests have gradually been growing over months.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (piNn3)

128 i bet taylor gives vindman a woody

Posted by: gnat's local 678 at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (kFrCu)

129 They *are* the "Russian Bots." Not literally, but practically. Our media runs the same way the CCP operations run, just at smaller human scale. They suppress opposition, yes, but that isn't enough. Every media company, sports league, reporter and public figure is pushing The Message. The Western media complex is a pure propaganda operation. The state and Big Tech crack down on opposition and the media complex pushes The Message.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (t0OGg)
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The Dems were the Russian bots before there was Twitter.

Many a moderate Dem had dinner with pro-Castro Dems in those days.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (krQz2)

130 That's not a spatula.

Giant spoon.

Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (t4fCu)

131 I got told by a young gen z-er the other day that me calling Xi Winnie the Pooh is racist, because Pooh is yellow and has squinty eyes.

It's ridiculous and I ignored it, but it made me laugh.
Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (Pdtmp)

Pooh doesn't have squinty eyes. As a stuffed bear they are round and made of glass. Revisionists can't stop the lies.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (eoQWY)

132 Isn't this kind of the opposite of: "Hey, my eyes are up HERE."

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (v0R5T)

133 I don't think people truly understand how brutal the Chinese government is. Read the account of the man who was helping with the forced organ donation program and escaped China. They were taking out prisoners organs while they were still alive, without anesthesia.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 04:29 PM (82U+n)

134 One of the differences between now and the past several decades is that Xi has greatly concentrated power central to himself. Xi put a target on himself and therefore if he's the government the people will protest against him specifically instead of for "democracy" or "justice" or "the will of the heavens". Even Mao tried to hide behind the will of the people for the protection of his power. Xi wants to be seen as THE power. So this is what he gets.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2022 04:29 PM (cqFb3)

135 The left's non-racism is so constantly based on an incredibly racist, stereotypical view of non-whites its shocking.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:29 PM (cP/Ah)

136 >>> Also, Apple changed their iOS Air Drop options so protesters can no longer pass each other information through spontaneous, direct connection wifi. This was one of the main methods of electronic communication the protesters were using. American companies are assisting the CCP's crackdown on protestors. Posted by: bonhomme

I know. It might be last straw for me as far as having an iPhone, because that's just evil, but what do I do, go to Android and the equally evil Google? There are no good choices.

I hope Elon announces he's building a phone soon, so at least there is some other choice besides the dreaded phone duopoly we currently have.

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 04:29 PM (Pdtmp)

137 You best pray, because we don't have the manufacturing capacity to do so.
Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (isQS2)

Any many of our fellow citizens can't even change a tire.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 29, 2022 04:29 PM (Y5qcH)

138 it is is a paper that just went through a mimeograph.



As my thoughts drift off to the smell of freshly mimeographed papers in high school. Mmmmmmm.

Posted by: Archer at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM (gmo/4)

139 Xi already was unpopular because he was rolling back concessions made over the last generation. He has been purging other factions who might have had different views. Going back on that is neither easy nor safe for him, and a good way to get turfed out.
Posted by: Oldcat

Well, real communism has never been tried.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM (FVME7)

140 Xi already was unpopular because he was rolling back concessions made over the last generation. He has been purging other factions who might have had different views. Going back on that is neither easy nor safe for him, and a good way to get turfed out.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (eoQWY)
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It would have been, and many tried. He finished seizing power last month.

Now losing control of a popular revolutionary movement can make all of that not worth a hill of beans, but I wouldn't bet on it. Xi is prepared to shove economic privation and outright slavery down their throats. Dengism is over in Red China. Xi is much more Mao than Deng, and he means it. That's going to cause major problems in Red China, especially with a fiscal crisis rearing up at the same time (it is).

I hope that this is genuine revolt and that they're ultimately successful, but Xi isn't powerless.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM (t0OGg)

141 There is a tech developer writer I've been following who swears that there are modern Chinese LED street lights that can be programmed to, among other things, make you puke.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, now with 50% less content at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM (jTmQV)

142 Pooh doesn't have squinty eyes. As a stuffed bear they are round and made of glass

Well, and Chinese people are not literally yellow, like they have jaundice either.

Its like changing the name of Monkeypox, because its racist? Only to a leftist.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM (cP/Ah)

143 Actually you don't even always get lasting immunity to the strain you had. What you do get is a constant dribble of cross-immunity due to exposures to other coronaviruses. (this was one of the lessons of the Diamond Princess experiment, which will eventually be remembered as a high profile breach of medical ethics and violation of the Nuremburg code... not that the code means fuckall anymore)

Those normal non-sarscov-2 strains aren't crammed full of nasty shit from lab engineering, of course.

All bets are off if you got the jab and now have a shit immune system in general.

Posted by: somedood at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM (P+D9B)

144 Give Taylor time. She's only 23, you know.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM (kJLpK)

Same age as Nick Fuentes, I think. Has anyone set these two up on a blind date? Might be they cancel each other out, set up an Airbnb somewhere and leave the rest of us alone.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM (YV6PJ)

145 Did y'all see this?

Chronic exposure to delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol impacts testicular volume and male reproductive health in rhesus macaques

All those soi boys who are dosing themselves with THC are shrinking their balls and testosterone levels.

https://bit.ly/3OJtAb7

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM (j2Xg6)

146 I am loving the new reader added context on Twitter. It has to be making people like Lorenz batshit craziery.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM


FIFY.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 29, 2022 04:31 PM (Wnv9h)

147 It might be last straw for me as far as having an iPhone, because that's just evil, but what do I do, go to Android and the equally evil Google? There are no good choices.

Apple has always been consistently more evil than Google, but they're both terrible.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:31 PM (cP/Ah)

148 The China Show (from the ADV China guys) has the best coverage that I've seen. These guys lived in China for 10+ years and left a couple of years ago because of the growing repression.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRDLqggwQU

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at November 29, 2022 04:31 PM (piNn3)

149 They were taking out prisoners organs while they were still alive, without anesthesia.
Posted by: Marcus T

Coming to a country near you.

Posted by: Infidel at November 29, 2022 04:31 PM (ZEa+g)

150 They were taking out prisoners organs while they were still alive, without anesthesia.


What's wrong with that? - Dr. Fauci


Posted by: Archer at November 29, 2022 04:31 PM (gmo/4)

151 Xi Winnie the Pooh

*********

I would never equate a psychopath tyrant with a cuddly bear who loves honey.

Instead I refer to Xi as Zhou Bai Wang Fung Chi, which in ancient Chinese dialect roughly translated, means one who fucks diseased bats

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 04:31 PM (VTu1l)

152 Isn't this kind of the opposite of: "Hey, my eyes are up HERE."
Posted by: wth

I know! That's why I'm looking down at your bewbies!!

Sheeesh.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2022 04:31 PM (qoGsy)

153 And many of our fellow citizens can't even change a tire.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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Yep.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:31 PM (isQS2)

154 I wouldn't call Apple or Goolag American companies; in reality, they are anti-American.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

They are a part of the global corporate technocracy.

Globo-home-pedo corporatists. They will come to rule us.

And...this is what America will be like when they finally start taking away our gubs. How would this look if 1 in 5 Chinese owned a 9 mm gub, or something similar?
That's why our betters in the Fedgov haven't quite pulled this crap yet.
I lost all my gubs when the canoe on Lake St. Clair tipped over. And that water was cold.

We live in interesting times, and the FedGov and big tech know exactly who you are. Ponder that.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at November 29, 2022 04:32 PM (vcOmj)

155 So much bullshit on china today. The blank paper is just to protest censorship. It's been going on for a while.

China Uncensored/Unscripted has been following this since the summer. Protests have gradually been growing over months.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know

Whose Slogan Is It Anyway?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 04:32 PM (FVME7)

156 Thank you.

Beat me to it.

If it doesn't have a turret and a cannon sticking out of it, it's not a tank.
Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:20 PM (isQS2)

A big cannon. Don't Bradleys have a turret with a smaller gun, or a missile launcher.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:32 PM (eoQWY)

157 And plenty of Dems were in American boosting "Uncle Joe's" claim that the only thing that opposed socialism was "fascism" and he was just being the World's Champion Against Fascism.

Meanwhile, I learned last night of a case that the wider adoption of fascism is something that forced the Winner of WWII out. Churchill was forced out for his opposition to social medicine.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:32 PM (krQz2)

158 Does anyone realize that a couple of months down the track there will be a real shortage of all good produced in China including pharmaceuticals? Do we have capacity to take up the slack?
Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (3JfbU)
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It's already begun, and it began during the COVID stupids worldwide. We can't take up the slack, and neither can anyone else. If Red China goes tits up, it's going to take years to shake out. Nothing they do cannot be replaced, but replacing it will take time and money. On balance, it will be a good thing, because that industrial capacity is going to be distributed across SE Asia, India, Latin American and probably even some stuff will go back home to the US, Europe and Japan - but shortages will be the norm for years.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:32 PM (t0OGg)

159 They were taking out prisoners organs while they were still alive, without anesthesia.

"Thank you Chinese Uyghur Death Camps!"
--Disney credits in Shang Chi

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:32 PM (cP/Ah)

160 My nickname has been Whitey since I was 4 yrs old. When I hear "kill Whitey" my first thought is "what did I do to you?"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2022 04:32 PM (5+3xu)

161 As my thoughts drift off to the smell of freshly mimeographed papers in high school. Mmmmmmm.

Posted by: Archer at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM


Mmm...mimeographs. Sweet, purple mimeographs.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (Wnv9h)

162
I would never equate a psychopath tyrant with a cuddly bear who loves honey.

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Eh, he hates the comparison enough to censor it. That's fine by me.

But yeah, I'd prefer to just call him "that dead Commie cocksucker who got torn to shreds by his own citizens" a lot more.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (oINRc)

163 All those soi boys who are dosing themselves with THC are shrinking their balls and testosterone levels.
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It's not like they were gonna be of any use anyway.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (isQS2)

164 OT

Check it out:

You know "the Left can't meme". The Right even *vandalizes* with higher quality than the left. This is some high quality vandalism, SABO would approve.

TGP link. https://is.gd/f35RNO

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (YJwUM)

165 Chronic exposure to delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol impacts testicular volume and male reproductive health in rhesus macaques

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Mine go to 11.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (Y5qcH)

166 It might be last straw for me as far as having an iPhone, because that's just evil, but what do I do, go to Android and the equally evil Google? There are no good choices.

Apple has always been consistently more evil than Google, but they're both terrible.

--------------

The best thing would probably be to ditch the smart phone. Easier said than done. But we would all probably benefit.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (sX1BW)

167 Chronic exposure to delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol impacts testicular volume and male reproductive health in rhesus macaques

All those soi boys who are dosing themselves with THC are shrinking their balls and testosterone levels.

https://bit.ly/3OJtAb7
Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM (j2Xg6)
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The gene pool is probably better off without their contributions...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (YIVH2)

168 Mentioned the blank page, a fellow comment Mentioned Russians did it first, though not I know of at least in history

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (xhxe8)

169 A Chinese Civil War would be so nice.

Warlords running around whacking each other, surplus and illicit weapons of all kinds flowing here and there, opium dens for relaxation, whores, new food recipes, a nuke tossed about hither and dither, maybe even get the Japs involved for a little rape.

Maybe we can send a gunboat or two up the Yellow River.

A man can dream.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (0ZEfs)

170 116 Does anyone realize that a couple of months down the track there will be a real shortage of all good produced in China including pharmaceuticals? Do we have capacity to take up the slack?
Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (3JfbU)

I hope we try.
Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (44ww/)

Look at the majority of young females in the United States and imagine a world without psychotropics. This is the crisis the Neoliberals, in cooperation with the Neocons, have created.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (kJLpK)

171 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (T4tVD)

172 The Chinese Jews are insidious. Beware their Latke of Consternation.

Posted by: M'aiq The Liar at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (x8HKZ)

173 64 Military OCD kicking in, those are not tanks in the video above. They are armored personnel carriers (APC's). Huge difference.
Posted by: Mister Scott
___

Thank you.

Beat me to it.

If it doesn't have a turret and a cannon sticking out of it, it's not a tank.
Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:20 PM (isQS2)

Real question is whether a tank is a hot dog.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (eYoxG)

174 Yeah. 43 comments and no mention of the Chinese Chest?
It is surprising.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (v0R5T)

175 Caption for a Chinese chick holding up a blank sheet:

[Swalwell, Call Me!]

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (krQz2)

176 Maybe the Taliban can sell the Chinese people a few guns. I hear they've got a few they picked up on the cheap.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (82U+n)

177 That Lorenz creature is absolutely insufferable. How she keeps a job is beyond me.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (5+3xu)

178 The involuntary removal of organs started in the 1980s and picked up in the 1990s. It's been full industrial scale since about 2000.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (piNn3)

179 Chronic exposure to delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol impacts testicular volume and male reproductive health in rhesus macaques

Meh. A pox upon them.

Posted by: The Hyenas at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (a3Q+t)

180 That's not a spatula.

Giant spoon.
Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (t4fCu)

At some point, depending on its size and concavity, doesn't a spoon become a spatula?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (YV6PJ)

181 When I hear "kill Whitey" my first thought is "what did I do to you?"

"Tell me about it"
--Whitey Bulger

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (cP/Ah)

182 169 A Chinese Civil War would be so nice.

Warlords running around whacking each other, surplus and illicit weapons of all kinds flowing here and there, opium dens for relaxation, whores, new food recipes, a nuke tossed about hither and dither, maybe even get the Japs involved for a little rape.

Maybe we can send a gunboat or two up the Yellow River.

A man can dream.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (0ZEfs)

Look, if the Chinese don't have a civil war, we can always have one right here in the states.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (eYoxG)

183
That Lorenz creature is absolutely insufferable. How she keeps a job is beyond me.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (5+3xu)

Daddy's rich AF, and her crybullying routine takes care of the rest.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (oINRc)

184
I know. It might be last straw for me as far as having an iPhone, because that's just evil, but what do I do, go to Android and the equally evil Google? There are no good choices.

********

Android is actually open source as far as I know, so as long as you dont get a Google owned phone, you can get a phone with an Android OS not operated by Google. Samsung is a good example, they have their own proprietary Android OS and this will likely be my next phone

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (VTu1l)

185 On balance, it will be a good thing, because that industrial capacity is going to be distributed across SE Asia, India, Latin American and probably even some stuff will go back home to the US, Europe and Japan - but shortages will be the norm for years.

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A more decentralized world would be a welcome thing. I'll take any shortages that may come. I doubt there will be anything crucial. Just more of an inconvenience.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (sX1BW)

186 Oklahoma ADA arrested for child pr0n.

https://bit.ly/3EO8cwH

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (j2Xg6)

187 China finds itself in a similar quandary as we do.

If Xi steps down, he'll just be replaced by another communist bastard. Wouldn't be surprised if he was named Xii.

Just as we simply replace one D.C. bastard with another D.C. bastard.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (g4JKw)

188 150 They were taking out prisoners organs while they were still alive, without anesthesia.


What's wrong with that? - Dr. Fauci


Posted by: Archer at November 29, 2022 04:31 PM (gmo/4)

Right? Eric!!

Posted by: Liver Donor Card Enforcers at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (906pl)

189 Would a CCP failure at home result in outright destabilization here? I kind of doubt it, but it would certainly have profound consequences and it would cause a shake-up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM (t0OGg)

It wouldn't make a bit of difference. Our empire is on a level not seen before. China is peripheral.

Posted by: JmT at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (ZoOLl)

190 Idiocy is infecting China? Those people don't know the good that they have.

Posted by: Sid, now with Aviators at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (2O3jP)

191 116 Does anyone realize that a couple of months down the track there will be a real shortage of all good produced in China including pharmaceuticals? Do we have capacity to take up the slack?
Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (3JfbU)

I hope we try.
Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 29, 2022 04:26 PM (44ww/)

Biden to introduce his signature response, Operation Derp Speed!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (KbCG3)

192 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (0ZEfs)

If the CCP gets into trouble, the United States military and intelligence services will intervene to prop it up. Bank that.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (kJLpK)

193 Did the Romans establish a settlement in China? Some think they did.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 04:36 PM (VdGjU)

194 All those soi boys who are dosing themselves with THC are shrinking their balls and testosterone levels.

https://bit.ly/3OJtAb7

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM (j2Xg6)
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That would explain the push for wide acceptance, despite 5x the tar of a all-but-banned cigarette.

Everything the the "Council of the World's Betters" backs is about population.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:36 PM (krQz2)

195 A more decentralized world would be a welcome thing. I'll take any shortages that may come. I doubt there will be anything crucial. Just more of an inconvenience.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (sX1BW)
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I'm much more worried about food and energy shortages manufactured by our own government than a shortage of cheap knockoff crap made in China. I mean, I already got my Chinese-made purple pimp hat. What more do I need?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (YIVH2)

196
I hope that this is genuine revolt and that they're ultimately successful, but Xi isn't powerless.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM (t0OGg)

Perhaps, but you have to have someone running other parts of the country / other state organizations. And after the purges, the new ones know just how to do to you what you ordered done to the other guy.

Xi isn't powerless, but neither are the protestors and the worse it gets the bigger the temptation to use Xi's head to rise that one level higher in the food chain.

Happens often in Coups. There was a thing going around in African states where Colonels toppled Generals, Majors toppled Colonels until the head of state was a Flight Lt.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (eoQWY)

197 And also, what citizens are permitted to hide from China's surveillance network. Which is, again, nothing

You're welcome.

Posted by: Apple at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (xttsV)

198 The involuntary removal of organs started in the 1980s and picked up in the 1990s. It's been full industrial scale since about 2000.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM (piNn3)
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And according to some Russian troops, it's going on in Ukraine, with the harvesting of organs from trafficked children.
I don't want to believe this, but where are all the children crossing the border here going?

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (isQS2)

199 If it doesn't have a turret and a cannon sticking out of it, it's not a tank.
Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:20 PM


It does if it identifies as a tank.

Posted by: Stacey Abrams at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (a3Q+t)

200 I would never equate a psychopath tyrant with a cuddly bear who loves honey.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 04:31 PM (VTu1l)


If you do it in China. Instant organ donor.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (piNn3)

201 If the CCP gets into trouble, the United States military and intelligence services will intervene to prop it up. Bank that.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (kJLpK)
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Vassals have to come to the aid of their feudal lords.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (krQz2)

202 193 Did the Romans establish a settlement in China? Some think they did.
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 04:36 PM (VdGjU)

Seems kind of unlikely. There's a whole empire in between them before you get to more fragmented central asia.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (eYoxG)

203 Maybe we can send a gunboat or two up the Yellow River.


Main stem stop walue.

Posted by: Ho Han at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (gmo/4)

204 I missed the last thread about that idiot Kanye West, and I think Trump needs to disassociate himself from that kook and any of the other charlatans who might try to worm there way into his orbit by using flattery.
Flattery is Trump's fentanyl.

That said, that roll call of Republicans all rushing to go on record --starting with traitor McConnell and the smarmy and odious Romney is so fucking typical of the weasel GOP.

There is not one of any of these guys who didn't buy into --to one degree or another --any of the lies and hoaxes the Democrats and media spun about Trump for the past five years, so OF COURSE they are going to take another shot at him the one time he might deserve a little.

Fuck them.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 29, 2022 04:38 PM (mR6Gs)

205 I am headed in to teach and take a class from one of my instructors. I need the work out, has been a very lazy day. See y’all later.

Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2022 04:38 PM (ZdaMQ)

206 183 knew about daddy ,but she's screwed over coworkers and has opened her employer up to various forms of liability. Not a model employee

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2022 04:38 PM (5+3xu)

207 They were taking out prisoners organs while they were still alive, without anesthesia.

"Thank you Chinese Uyghur Death Camps!"
--Disney credits in Shang Chi
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

The did this to followers of Falun Gong over 20 years ago. Falun Gong was a derivative faction of Buddhism. The Chinese who founded Epoch Times were Falun Gong believers, who are staunchly Anti-communist.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at November 29, 2022 04:38 PM (vcOmj)

208 If Taylor Lorenz thought her life was actually in danger, she'd move to a place like China.

She doesn't, so she doesn't.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 29, 2022 04:38 PM (KbCG3)

209 A more decentralized world would be a welcome thing. I'll take any shortages that may come. I doubt there will be anything crucial. Just more of an inconvenience.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (sX1BW)
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Don't kid yourself. If China falls and *can't* produce (or does a general embargo, but I don't think they will because that might cause them to collapse anyway), it is far more than merely inconvenient.

We can't make most prescription drugs with China-manufactured precursors. We can't build machinery without circuit boards manufactured in China (even if the chips are from the West or Taiwan or Philippines). They have some fairly important markets cornered.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:38 PM (t0OGg)

210 I would never equate a psychopath tyrant with a cuddly bear who loves honey.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 04:31 PM (VTu1l)
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He loves honey and adrenochrome.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:38 PM (krQz2)

211 N antibiotics > S antibodies

This is why natural immunity is broader and more adaptable.

Posted by: Max Power at November 29, 2022 04:38 PM (Hucnr)

212 Did the Romans establish a settlement in China? Some think they did.
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 04:36 PM (VdGjU)

Possibly some traders got there, but the Silk Road states were very down on direct contact.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:38 PM (eoQWY)

213 Ever since from day 1 of Sundowner, I have taken every note where a person of member of our government cow tow to China. The Leftists love the Chinese government running over their population and the business handouts they can get from them.

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 29, 2022 04:38 PM (xhxe8)

214 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 29, 2022 04:33 PM (0ZEfs)

If the CCP gets into trouble, the United States military and intelligence services will intervene to prop it up. Bank that.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat


We MUST Have Stability in International Relationships!!!

Instability is bad for the Economy and the Banks and the Established Rich Elites.

Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 04:38 PM (Z32m1)

215 I'm much more worried about food and energy shortages manufactured by our own government than a shortage of cheap knockoff crap made in China. I mean, I already got my Chinese-made purple pimp hat. What more do I need?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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You do realize that China manufactures most of the meds, right?

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (isQS2)

216 207 They were taking out prisoners organs while they were still alive, without anesthesia.

"Thank you Chinese Uyghur Death Camps!"
--Disney credits in Shang Chi
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

========

I think that was Mulan, but it did happen. They filmed within sight of one of the camps.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (LvTSG)

217
At some point, depending on its size and concavity, doesn't a spoon become a spatula?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2022 04:34 PM


and at some point, as concavity increases, the spoon becomes a ladle

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (ENBF0)

218 The Left loved Mussolini before the war
The Left loved Hitler before the war
The Left loved Stalin before the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact
The Left loved Castro
The Left loves China

Central planers make the train cars full of dissidents run on time.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (BJKQV)

219 Would a CCP failure at home result in outright destabilization here? I kind of doubt it, but it would certainly have profound consequences and it would cause a shake-up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:24 PM (t0OGg)

It wouldn't make a bit of difference. Our empire is on a level not seen before. China is peripheral.

Posted by: JmT


Well yes, but also, no. I mean, aside from the fact that too much of our manufacturing is sourced there, plus the fact that they're publicly all-in on the CCP model, so if it goes splat they look very publicly like fools.

They used to say the West depended on cheap oil...well the ugly truth is, it actually depends on cheap foreign labor. And with the clowns in power, a massive all-sectors scarcity shock would create chaos the likes of which none of us has seen.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (OUMaO)

220 They drag Taylor Twat out to troll people.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (vCY3B)

221 Happens often in Coups. There was a thing going around in African states where Colonels toppled Generals, Majors toppled Colonels until the head of state was a Flight Lt.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (eoQWY)
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Yup. Revolutions and coups get sporty. If that's what this is (or what it becomes), then look out below - none of anyone's assumptions hold.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (t0OGg)

222 until the head of state was a Flight Lt.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM


2nd Lieutenants know it all. Just ask us.

Posted by: Butterbars at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (a3Q+t)

223 126 Does anyone realize that a couple of months down the track there will be a real shortage of all good produced in China including pharmaceuticals? Do we have capacity to take up the slack?
Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 29, 2022 04:25 PM (3JfbU)

I hope we try.
Posted by: Bourbonchicken
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You best pray, because we don't have the manufacturing capacity to do so.
Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:28 PM (isQS2)

This is the theme of the book "China Rx: Exposing the Risks of America's Dependence on China for Medicine".

TL;DR - we're in trouble.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (9miN6)

224 Did the Romans establish a settlement in China? Some think they did.
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 04:36 PM (VdGjU)

I've read that the Romans and the Chinese were dimly aware of each other's existence, but had no real contact with each other.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (mR6Gs)

225 201 If the CCP gets into trouble, the United States military and intelligence services will intervene to prop it up. Bank that.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:35 PM (kJLpK)
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Vassals have to come to the aid of their feudal lords.
Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (krQz2)

The vassals are "our" "elected" "representatives" and the feudal lords are the WEF.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:40 PM (kJLpK)

226 218 The Left loved Mussolini before the war
The Left loved Hitler before the war
The Left loved Stalin before the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact
The Left loved Castro
The Left loves China

Central planers make the train cars full of dissidents run on time.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (BJKQV)

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But all them people you list are on the right!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:40 PM (LvTSG)

227 It does if it identifies as a tank.
Posted by: Stacey Abrams
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Shut up, loser.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:40 PM (isQS2)

228 If it's endlessly evolving, then what's the point of a booster made for a variant that died out weeks, months, or even years ago?
==
There's no point in being ignorant, if you can't be passionately ignorant.

Posted by: Rosie, Fire Can't Melt Steel, O Donnell at November 29, 2022 04:40 PM (tuUmv)

229 the spoon becomes a ladle
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (ENBF0)

Why does EVERYTHING have to be about this trans business these days?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2022 04:40 PM (YV6PJ)

230 They were taking out prisoners organs while they were still alive, without anesthesia.

"Thank you Chinese Uyghur Death Camps!"
--Disney credits in Shang Chi
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
---
The Meaning of Life
Part V

Organ Transplants

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:40 PM (krQz2)

231 Central planers make the train cars full of dissidents run on time.

Posted by: 29Victor


Y'know, if the railroad unions strike, how do they get us to the camps? /srednop

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 29, 2022 04:40 PM (OUMaO)

232 I wonder what Fun Bags face looks like.
Ah, who am I kidding?

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 04:40 PM (v0R5T)

233 Wishing the Chinese protestors all the luck in the world. "Superbrother", the man with the Superman backpack who was quoting Patrick Henry, is my current hero.

I still can't believe they protested at Xi's alma mater... the balls on all these protestors are wheelbarrow sized. Even the ladies.

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 04:41 PM (Pdtmp)

234 Hm.

Listened to the new Metallica release "Lux Aetera," its okay. Its missing the edge and creativity of their early stuff, though. I like a lot of later Metallica but I have to admit its not like their first albums. I can't even put a finger on why.

https://youtu.be/_u-7rWKnVVo

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:41 PM (cP/Ah)

235 What's Gretchen Whitmer going to say?

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WORLD · NOV 28, 2022 · 117
China Taps Governor Gretchen Whitmer To Lead Lockdown Enforcement

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From the Bee. Also from the Bee . . .

Anti-Science Right-Wingers Protest Common Sense COVID Restrictions
WORLD · NOV 29, 2022 · 89

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 04:41 PM (FVME7)

236 Central planers make the train cars full of dissidents run on time.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (BJKQV)
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Well, Biden did say the trains would run on time...

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:41 PM (isQS2)

237 US Govt and big tech will save Xi and the mullahs in Iran. At what point does it become clear to the majority of the country that they are not on our side?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 29, 2022 04:41 PM (fs1hN)

238
On balance, it will be a good thing, because that industrial capacity is going to be distributed across SE Asia, India, Latin American and probably even some stuff will go back home to the US, Europe and Japan - but shortages will be the norm for years.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:32 PM (t0OGg)

Yup. But that's true no matter what - this economy is fuckin' doomed. Idiot country run by idiots and for idiots. Painful shortages are coming, without regard to any of this, and much of it will be intentional.

If I get shortages + flailing, masterless client regime + potential for seeing US regime apparatchiks whipped to death on television, I'll take that all day and twice on Sunday.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:41 PM (oINRc)

239 They used to say the West depended on cheap oil...well the ugly truth is, it actually depends on cheap foreign labor. And with the clowns in power, a massive all-sectors scarcity shock would create chaos the likes of which none of us has seen.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (OUMaO)
++++
They'd be fine with a scarcity shock. They think - and might be right - that they can manage it and make themselves even *more* important and make the people even more dependent on the state. It's an ideal outcome (unless, of course, they can't control it).

But the direct CCP shot-calling and all those dollars that the CCP pumps into Western officials would end, and that would likely be fairly disruptive.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:41 PM (t0OGg)

240 202 193 Did the Romans establish a settlement in China? Some think they did.
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 04:36 PM (VdGjU)

Seems kind of unlikely. There's a whole empire in between them before you get to more fragmented central asia.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (eYoxG)

I have a vague recollection in the back of my mind of a story that the survivors of some major Roman defeat on the eastern frontier eventually made their way as far as Western China, but can't remember any more detail than that.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 29, 2022 04:41 PM (906pl)

241 @169

>>A Chinese Civil War would be so nice.

The vast majority of the stuff we buy and the components that go in to goods, are manufactured and shipped from China up to and including good that our MIC uses.

So a Chinese Civil War would more than likely result in a world wide depression the likes of which haven't been seen in a millennium.

The upside is that, much like the aftermath of WWII, we may be the last man standing after the carnage has subsided.

So, yay for us, I suppose.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2022 04:42 PM (5026n)

242 213 Ever since from day 1 of Sundowner, I have taken every note where a person of member of our government cow tow to China.

cameltoe > cow tow

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at November 29, 2022 04:42 PM (v3pYe)

243 They were taking out prisoners organs while they were still alive, without anesthesia.

"Thank you Chinese Uyghur Death Camps!"
--Disney credits in Shang Chi
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


===============
Are we any better with our own in vivo dismemberment and sales of aborted baby parts?

Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 04:42 PM (Z32m1)

244 They were taking out prisoners organs while they were still alive, without anesthesia.
==
We have done likewise, although technically not prisoners.

Posted by: PP at November 29, 2022 04:42 PM (wjlga)

245 2nd Lieutenants know it all. Just ask us.
Posted by: Butterbars at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (a3Q+t)

Where are we, sir?

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 29, 2022 04:42 PM (44ww/)

246 The Left loved Mussolini before the war
The Left loved Hitler before the war
The Left loved Stalin before the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact
The Left loved Castro
The Left loves China

Central planers make the train cars full of dissidents run on time.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (BJKQV)
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And the Dems have dined with the lot of them.

*makes jack-off motion*

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:42 PM (krQz2)

247 Pete Buttigieg can't make anything run on time.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (a3Q+t)

248 241 The upside is that, much like the aftermath of WWII, we may be the last man standing after the carnage has subsided.

So, yay for us, I suppose.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2022 04:42 PM (5026n)

==========

The Pax Americana was one of the best things to happen to the world before it degraded into a farce.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (LvTSG)

249 We MUST Have Stability in International Relationships!!!

Instability is bad for the Economy and the Banks and the Established Rich Elites.
Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 04:38 PM (Z32m1)

Said by our betters who blow up a pipeline sending them gas to heat their homes and factories.

And the entry to China wasn't fueled by stability, but by guys wanting to make a quick buck while screwing over local workers.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (eoQWY)

250 I hope that this is genuine revolt and that they're ultimately successful, but Xi isn't powerless.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:30 PM (t0OGg)


It's not a revolt. It's a spontaneous general uprising. But it's not just against Xi either. It's against the party. People are being rescued from the cops, which *never* happens in china (see my link above to "The China Show' coverage). And it's all sectors of society in the streets. If the regime wins the crackdown will be unbelievably brutal.


Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (piNn3)

251 Lord come back soon.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (g4JKw)

252 I know the Roman's had representation in India. There's a Roman site there that's 2000 years old.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (Y5qcH)

253 For those of y'all that rely of prescription drugs to keep you alive, I strongly suggest you stock up.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (isQS2)

254 So a Chinese Civil War would more than likely result in a world wide depression the likes of which haven't been seen in a millennium.
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So the financial system is going to crash. This is one of the ways it happens, without a full on nuclear war.

Posted by: YMMV at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (29UUx)

255 Justin Castreau's legal father loved the Red Chinese.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (VdGjU)

256 The Meaning of Life
Part V

Organ Transplants


You signed the organ donor card, didn't you?

I've read that the Romans and the Chinese were dimly aware of each other's existence, but had no real contact with each other.

There was some trade. Romans got silk, I have no idea what the Chinese got. Slaves maybe, Rome had a ton of slaves.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:44 PM (cP/Ah)

257 Well, Biden did say the trains would run on time...
Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:41 PM (isQS2)
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Fixed.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:44 PM (krQz2)

258 Considering it has been my thesis that it is the meds that have been making American women batshit insane here, this could be a net plus for us

Imagine Taylor Lorenz waking up one morning and suddenly having conservative thoughts because she finally stopped taking the 80 different kinds of Chinese made birth control pills she is on despite nobody being willing to fuck her

It could be a beautiful world then

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 04:44 PM (VTu1l)

259 Lord come back soon.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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Maranatha.

Amen.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:44 PM (isQS2)

260 Was Normalizing relations with China during a proxy war in SE Asia was a terrible idea???...
My bad guys.

Posted by: Zombie Dick Nixon at November 29, 2022 04:44 PM (dI4uN)

261 256 There was some trade. Romans got silk, I have no idea what the Chinese got. Slaves maybe, Rome had a ton of slaves.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:44 PM (cP/Ah)

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And all of them were African American.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (LvTSG)

262 Are we any better with our own in vivo dismemberment and sales of aborted baby parts?

I am reasonably sure the Chinese do that TOO, so yes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (cP/Ah)

263 It's not a revolt. It's a spontaneous general uprising. But it's not just against Xi either. It's against the party. People are being rescued from the cops, which *never* happens in china (see my link above to "The China Show' coverage). And it's all sectors of society in the streets. If the regime wins the crackdown will be unbelievably brutal.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (piNn3)
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The difference between a revolt and a general uprising is not always very large.

And starting back in the late spring/summer, much of the protest action was against Xi himself, rather than the Party. If the tenor of that is changing, that's a fairly important change. I haven't checked them out recently, but will add 'em back into the rotation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (t0OGg)

264 @234

>>I can't even put a finger on why.

They, like you, are not 18 years old and listening to a wholly new and exciting genre of music literally being conjured into existence before your very ears.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (5026n)

265 237 US Govt and big tech will save Xi and the mullahs in Iran. At what point does it become clear to the majority of the country that they are not on our side?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 29, 2022 04:41 PM (fs1hN)

I'm not certain about Iran, but the "United States" will at least covertly attempt to keep the CCP propped up. 'Cause Klaus and the Gang want it, that's why.

Again, this country is a few months from running out of psychotropics. Imagine what that will be like.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (kJLpK)

266 I have a vague recollection in the back of my mind of a story that the survivors of some major Roman defeat on the eastern frontier eventually made their way as far as Western China, but can't remember any more detail than that.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 29, 2022 04:41 PM (906pl)

There was a legend that the legions captured when Crassus was defeated at Carrhae in 54 BC or so were sent to the eastern part of Persia and then ... ?

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (eoQWY)

267 I expect whatever China does to quell the protests will be emulated by our junta here. They followed China's lead with the lockdowns in 2020 so this is more of a "how to" sort of thing in my mind. All the schmart kids want to emulate the ChiComs.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (Q4IgG)

268 258 Considering it has been my thesis that it is the meds that have been making American women batshit insane here, this could be a net plus for us

Imagine Taylor Lorenz waking up one morning and suddenly having conservative thoughts because she finally stopped taking the 80 different kinds of Chinese made birth control pills she is on despite nobody being willing to fuck her

It could be a beautiful world then
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 29, 2022 04:44 PM (VTu1l)

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Sure, the anti-psychotic stuff that people have become addicted to, but there's also a bunch of antibiotics and other many life-saving things that would go out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (LvTSG)

269 I know the Roman's had representation in India. There's a Roman site there that's 2000 years old.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (Y5qcH)
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The Vedes regularly kicked the asses of Mediterranean European interlopers.

No wonder Hitler wanted to claim them.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (krQz2)

270 Ive been thinking that a nationwide protest on July 4th could not be ignored.
We have the symbolism of Independence Day. It's a day many Americans already have off work.
Of course we'd have to give up our beer and hot dogs, so probably wouldn't happen.
But we have to do something. Voting is dead.

Posted by: Fool Otto at November 29, 2022 04:46 PM (DB16e)

271 Again, this country is a few months from running out of psychotropics. Imagine what that will be like.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (kJLpK)

They can't get that much shriller and less sensible.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:46 PM (eoQWY)

272 So the financial system is going to crash. This is one of the ways it happens, without a full on nuclear war.
Posted by: YMMV
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Yep.

Just a matter of when.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:46 PM (isQS2)

273 Whatever happened to Red China?

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 04:46 PM (VdGjU)

274 My bad guys.

Posted by: Zombie Dick Nixon at November 29, 2022 04:44 PM (dI4uN)


Clinton was the real culprit.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at November 29, 2022 04:46 PM (piNn3)

275 Where are we, sir?
Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 29, 2022 04:42 PM


Right here, Corporal.

* points to ground *

Posted by: Lt. Butterbar at November 29, 2022 04:46 PM (a3Q+t)

276 Again, this country is a few months from running out of psychotropics. Imagine what that will be like.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (kJLpK)

They can't get that much shriller and less sensible.
Posted by: Oldcat
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But they will get much more violent.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:46 PM (isQS2)

277 180 At some point, depending on its size and concavity, doesn't a spoon become a spatula?

finally, the matrix is explained: there is no spoon, there is only spatula.

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at November 29, 2022 04:47 PM (v3pYe)

278 I know the Roman's had representation in India. There's a Roman site there that's 2000 years old.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (Y5qcH)
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The Vedes regularly kicked the asses of Mediterranean European interlopers.

No wonder Hitler wanted to claim them.
Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (krQz2)

yes Roman traders regularly sailed from ports in Ethiopia / South Arabia on the monsoon to India and back

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:47 PM (eoQWY)

279 Did the Romans establish a settlement in China? Some think they did.

I think the story was that the Persians captured Roman soldiers and used them to fight the Chinese, who it turn captured them and settled them somewhere near the western Chinese border.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2022 04:47 PM (ESjRY)

280 People are going to die. But they don't care cause they have plenty of people.

Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2022 04:47 PM (0OP+5)

281 Was Normalizing relations with China during a proxy war in SE Asia was a terrible idea???...
My bad guys.
Posted by: Zombie Dick Nixon at November 29, 2022 04:44 PM (dI4uN)
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I have long thought that Nixon opening China was a catastrophic error.

That said, the problems didn't really start growing like mushrooms on Taylor Lorenz's gross, smelly bathmat until they were granted Most Favored Nation status and allowed into the WTO and then allowed to run unchecked through Western economies with direct subsidies from Wall Street. We can thank Clinton and Bush 43 for that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:47 PM (t0OGg)

282 "Real question is whether a tank is a hot dog."

Of course not.

It's a sandwich.


No....wait!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 29, 2022 04:47 PM (uLr+K)

283 But we have to do something. Voting is dead.
Posted by: Fool Otto
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Pray.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:47 PM (isQS2)

284 Biden isn't going to issue any support for China's slant eyed Deplorbles. Hell, that system they are fighting is identical to what he and his scrotum lice want to install here.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 29, 2022 04:47 PM (QSjkU)

285 Of only we had more than 2 parties who were not 100% controlled and dominated by the same donor class every single time.
-Ye

Posted by: Tim Fool who pals around with pedos at November 29, 2022 04:47 PM (dI4uN)

286 There was a legend that the legions captured when Crassus was defeated at Carrhae in 54 BC or so were sent to the eastern part of Persia and then ... ?
Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (eoQWY)

That could be it. I've an idea there's a reference to this in one of the Flashman Chronicles.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 29, 2022 04:48 PM (906pl)

287 People are going to die. But they don't care cause they have plenty of people.
Posted by: Eromero
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A lot of people are going to die here, too.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:48 PM (isQS2)

288 Well yes, but also, no. I mean, aside from the fact that too much of our manufacturing is sourced there, plus the fact that they're publicly all-in on the CCP model, so if it goes splat they look very publicly like fools.

They used to say the West depended on cheap oil...well the ugly truth is, it actually depends on cheap foreign labor. And with the clowns in power, a massive all-sectors scarcity shock would create chaos the likes of which none of us has seen.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (OUMaO)

We'll find the cheap labor in other places and go chugging on. The fall will come from within but it is going be long at least in modern terms. Maybe half the time of Rome.

Posted by: JmT at November 29, 2022 04:48 PM (ZoOLl)

289 ace, I believe that would be the easily re-elected and contemptuous Hochul, and Whitmer, you are referring to. And the easily non-recalled Newsom in CA, and the same-as-the-old-boss newly elected governor of PA. And the wealthy, incompetent, histrionically megalomaniacal, untouchable, widely lionized Fauci. And the completely unpunished, unreformed, uninvestigated CDC, and FDA, and .....

I think you see the pattern.

And the idea that any of these repugnant, pernicious entities would have trouble saying anything at any time about any topic, as if they would be subject to any kind of consequences or push-back or even public questioning - um, huh? Dude, that was the world you *used* to live in. Not the one we are stuck in now.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 29, 2022 04:48 PM (OTzUX)

290 I know the Roman's had representation in India. There's a Roman site there that's 2000 years old.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 29, 2022 04:43 PM (Y5qcH)


The Romans discovered the Monsoons in the Indian ocean and used that to travel back and forth to trade in India. However I think silks and spices travelled the Silk road

Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2022 04:49 PM (xhaym)

291 Posted by: Fool Otto at November 29, 2022 04:46 PM (DB16e)

I can skip a hot dog sammich and some beer. I'm in.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at November 29, 2022 04:49 PM (z0DEK)

292 Do you hear the People Honk?!

Kulvinder Kaur MD @dockaurG
Hear that in Beijing, China @JustinTrudeau?

Sounds like the universal language of freedom. #HonkHonk

https://twitter.com/dockaurG/status/
1597586986646540288

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 04:49 PM (Vwz3I)

293 If we run out of antibiotics we can just go down to Tijuana right? They're trustworthy.

Posted by: dartist at November 29, 2022 04:49 PM (9X/y4)

294 That said, the problems didn't really start growing like mushrooms on Taylor Lorenz's gross, smelly bathmat until they were granted Most Favored Nation status and allowed into the WTO and then allowed to run unchecked through Western economies with direct subsidies from Wall Street. We can thank Clinton and Bush 43 for that.

Yeah, that was the beginning of the end. Then Obama's inviting Chinese in to run schools at our major universities, etc. Its been one long line of idiotic and obvious stupid moves.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:49 PM (cP/Ah)

295 Not voting. Mass opt out. That's the way through.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 29, 2022 04:49 PM (CgtKh)

296 Was Normalizing relations with China during a proxy war in SE Asia was a terrible idea???...
My bad guys.

Posted by: Zombie Dick Nixon at November 29, 2022 04:44 PM (dI4uN)

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I always figured the Kissinger and Nixon strategy was to create a rift between the Soviet Union and China, and keep China closer.

We probably should have backed off after the Soviet Union collapsed, but it was undoubtedly too late and a lot of people were making a lot of money -- especially the grifters in DC and the Deep State looking for a new source of revenue other than the Kremlin.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 04:49 PM (kEjR6)

297 -
Whatever happened to Red China?

Posted by: That NLurker guy -
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Sunscreen.

Posted by: irright at November 29, 2022 04:49 PM (SchQD)

298 They, like you, are not 18 years old and listening to a wholly new and exciting genre of music literally being conjured into existence before your very ears.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

I remember driving my car when Hendrix' All Along the Watchtower came on the radio. Blew my mind!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 04:49 PM (FVME7)

299 295 Not voting. Mass opt out. That's the way through.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 29, 2022 04:49 PM (CgtKh)

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It certainly turned Venezuela around.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:50 PM (LvTSG)

300 Was Normalizing relations with China during a proxy war in SE Asia was a terrible idea???...
My bad guys.

Posted by: Zombie Dick Nixon at November 29, 2022 04:44 PM (dI4uN)
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I always figured the Kissinger and Nixon strategy was to create a rift between the Soviet Union and China, and keep China closer.

We probably should have backed off after the Soviet Union collapsed, but it was undoubtedly too late and a lot of people were making a lot of money -- especially the grifters in DC and the Deep State looking for a new source of revenue other than the Kremlin.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 04:50 PM (kEjR6)

301 finally, the matrix is explained: there is no spoon,


ONLY ZUUUL!

Posted by: Archer at November 29, 2022 04:50 PM (gmo/4)

302 Not voting. Mass opt out. That's the way through.
Posted by: occam's brassiere
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Hooah.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:50 PM (isQS2)

303 But that's true no matter what - this economy is fuckin' doomed. Idiot country run by idiots and for idiots. Painful shortages are coming, without regard to any of this, and much of it will be intentional.
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It was intentional. Globalists and Do-Gooders thought that if everybody traded with everybody else, no one would ever wage wars again.

Instead, now when there are Wars, trade is interrupted, and billions suffer. Russia-Ukraine? Food Shortages, Food Shortages, Pesticide and Herbicide Shortages, Europe short of gas and energy, Europeans literally freezing in the dark this Winter.

But the powerful and the Pretty People will not Suffer. Us Peasants will.

Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 04:50 PM (Z32m1)

304 I remember driving my car when Hendrix' All Along the Watchtower came on the radio. Blew my mind!

Alice In Chains' "Man in the Box" did that to me. It was like a bomb going off in my ears, I could not believe what I was hearing and had to hear more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:50 PM (cP/Ah)

305 I always figured the Kissinger and Nixon strategy was to create a rift between the Soviet Union and China, and keep China closer.

We probably should have backed off after the Soviet Union collapsed, but it was undoubtedly too late and a lot of people were making a lot of money -- especially the grifters in DC and the Deep State looking for a new source of revenue other than the Kremlin.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 04:49 PM (kEjR6)

That was the purpose yes.

Kissinger appears to be an advocate presently of doing a similar strategy in reverse, partnering with the Russians against the Chinese.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 04:50 PM (eYoxG)

306 As with everything hot dog-related here, it all comes down to ketchup.

Tanks get their's from crunchies.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 29, 2022 04:51 PM (a3Q+t)

307 It certainly turned Venezuela around.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 04:50 PM (LvTSG)
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Whatevers.

It's all about ballots, not votes.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:51 PM (isQS2)

308 Oh FFS.

Are we all doomed now?

Go home. Hug your loved ones. Call a friend. Tell them You appreciate them. Turn off the news. Wrote a letter. Go for a walk.

I'll hug my cat.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2022 04:51 PM (h01er)

309 Biden isn't going to issue any support for China's slant eyed Deplorbles. Hell, that system they are fighting is identical to what he and his scrotum lice want to install here.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 29, 2022 04:47 PM (QSjkU)
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I understand that some have said that the World Council of Betters has determined that "China is the model".

Unless the Chinese are "the REAL Jews", I don't think that fits with the Jews controlling the world thing.

And I accept that China might be the "paper dragon" that a lot of its critics suggest it is. However, it doesn't matter if the Cabal for World Government believe the paper and have decided it's the model.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:51 PM (krQz2)

310 But the direct CCP shot-calling and all those dollars that the CCP pumps into Western officials would end, and that would likely be fairly disruptive.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 04:41 PM (t0OGg)

This is why, if it is at all possible, D.C. and to a lesser degree the EU will assist Xi and the CCP, likely covertly. The totalitarianism that has descended on us is, in part, necessary to maintain this grift. China collapsing would in fact be horribly painful from an economic standpoint, but it might be the one thing that could break the current trajectory.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:51 PM (kJLpK)

311 A lot of my meds are manufactured in India.


That place has high standards of cleanliness, right?


Posted by: Archer at November 29, 2022 04:52 PM (gmo/4)

312 There was a legend that the legions captured when Crassus was defeated at Carrhae in 54 BC or so were sent to the eastern part of Persia and then ... ?
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Sold to space aliens; see Ranks of Bronze.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 04:52 PM (Vwz3I)

313 @298

>>I remember driving my car when Hendrix' All Along the Watchtower came on the radio. Blew my mind!

Absolutely.

That dude stood up next to a mountain and chopped it down with the edge of his hand.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2022 04:52 PM (5026n)

314 258 Considering it has been my thesis that it is the meds that have been making American women batshit insane here, this could be a net plus for us

Been going on for a long time. Stones even did a song about it in the mid 60's called "Mothers Little Helper". I grew up during that time, the song was fairly accurate.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at November 29, 2022 04:52 PM (mVMcL)

315 Are we all doomed now?

___


Without Jesus, yes.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:52 PM (isQS2)

316 The Romans discovered the Monsoons in the Indian ocean and used that to travel back and forth to trade in India. However I think silks and spices travelled the Silk road
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2022 04:49 PM (xhaym)

Now another story I read was that this lasted until, during the reign of Justinian, some silkworms were smuggled out of China and brought to Byzantium, thus breaking up the monopoly. (I read that in Robert Graves' Count Belisarius.)

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 29, 2022 04:53 PM (906pl)

317 Not necessarily stoned,
But beautiful.

Posted by: dartist at November 29, 2022 04:53 PM (9X/y4)

318 *apologies for the occasional double posts -- on the move & on the road with spotty broadband ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 04:53 PM (kEjR6)

319 What's Gretchen Whitmer going to say?

..

Probably LOLGF bc she just won reelection.

Take MI out of your 2024 swingstate 270 calculation.

Oh and PA and AZ too.

Why, that makes 270 impossible. You don't say, you don't say.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at November 29, 2022 04:53 PM (bzIRf)

320 Again, this country is a few months from running out of psychotropics. Imagine what that will be like.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (kJLpK)
........

We'll need music

https://tinyurl.com/5n83dafc

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 04:53 PM (v0R5T)

321 A lot of my meds are manufactured in India.
That place has high standards of cleanliness, right?
Posted by: Archer at November 29, 2022 04:52 PM


Some say better than mine.

Posted by: The Barrel at November 29, 2022 04:54 PM (a3Q+t)

322 295 Not voting. Mass opt out. That's the way through.
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No worries, we're harvesting your ballot for you, no need to get off the couch. Haven't you heard? It's ballots, not votes that decide elections now.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 29, 2022 04:54 PM (fs1hN)

323 People are going to die. But they don't care cause they have plenty of people.
Posted by: Eromero
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A lot of people are going to die here, too.
Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:48 PM (isQS2)
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And that's a good thing.

Posted by: The Georgia Guidestones and Bill Gates at November 29, 2022 04:55 PM (krQz2)

324 There was a legend that the legions captured when Crassus was defeated at Carrhae in 54 BC or so were sent to the eastern part of Persia and then ... ?
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Sold to space aliens; see Ranks of Bronze.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 04:52 PM (Vwz3I)

They should be coming back in their captured interstellar ship any time now if you read the full novel.

The pilot is telling them that the Earth is very different, two thousand years have passed, the commander just replies "We remember that we are Romans"

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:55 PM (eoQWY)

325 There was a legend that the legions captured when Crassus was defeated at Carrhae in 54 BC or so were sent to the eastern part of Persia and then ... ?

How many lost legions were there?

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 04:55 PM (VdGjU)

326 My bad guys.

Posted by: Zombie Dick Nixon at November 29, 2022 04:44 PM (dI4uN)


Clinton was the real culprit.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know

Clinton took the next logical step and both parties wanted this (to drain our country resources and move onto China).
Zero excuse in Nixon normalizing relations with an enemy we were fighting on the ground. My dad was over there for 6 years as an officer. He would count 1000s of Chinese troops on recon and be told by suits in front of Gen. Westmorland that soldier did not see what he saw. The General got pissed when that happened.
The Chinese are special, see? There were plans made after WWII.

Posted by: Antarctic Zombie Virus at November 29, 2022 04:55 PM (dI4uN)

327 All kinds of manufacturing and other economic activity can be, has been, is being moved out of Chy-nah. It's a big world. Disruptions are not end-states, they're bumps along the way.

Even a "depression", which is usually short-lived - UNLESS DEEPENED AND PROLONGED BY IDIOTIC ECONOMIC POLICY - would be but a blip compared to the ongoing systemic universal impoverishment and malinvestment (with future impoverishment implications) of "climate" idiocy.

The burning times are now, "civil war" is very unlikely and is also not needed for ruination, real life rarely resembles bad fiction set in a 48-minute time limit for TV.

Escapism takes several forms, but all of them are escapism.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 29, 2022 04:55 PM (OTzUX)

328 Pray.
Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA

I regularly do. I pray for wisdom however things may shake out. God knows, I don't. -disclaimer for Bob- I am not calling for a violent revolution here, but many of our Founders did pray and at some point, more was required.

Posted by: Fool Otto at November 29, 2022 04:55 PM (DB16e)

329 Trump's stinky breath is the major cause of climate change!!@@

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at November 29, 2022 04:55 PM (Htl4B)

330 >>> You do realize that China manufactures most of the meds, right? Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (isQS2)

Puerto Rico used to be a drug manufacturing hub for us, before globoevil shipped it away. One of Trump's last acts was to get it back there, bless him. But I don't know if Biden canceled that.

Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2022 04:56 PM (Pdtmp)

331 311 A lot of my meds are manufactured in India.

That place has high standards of cleanliness, right?

Posted by: Archer at November 29, 2022 04:52 PM (gmo/4)

Heh. In manufacturing? They kinda do.

But i'd still stay far, far away from the break-room shitter.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 29, 2022 04:56 PM (6FeV1)

332 Metallica are retirement age multi millionaires. At some point it gets hard to keep being metal

Posted by: brak at November 29, 2022 04:56 PM (kthct)

333
Again, this country is a few months from running out of psychotropics. Imagine what that will be like.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:45 PM (kJLpK)

About a hundred million chemically imbalanced basketcase NPCs, roaming the streets in mobs, fueled to the gills on box-wine and Twitter-rage, searching pharmacies for scattered doses of Xanax and Adderall, and feasting on the flesh of The Managers.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:56 PM (oINRc)

334 Now another story I read was that this lasted until, during the reign of Justinian, some silkworms were smuggled out of China and brought to Byzantium, thus breaking up the monopoly. (I read that in Robert Graves' Count Belisarius.)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 29, 2022 04:53 PM (906pl)

This is so, by Byzantine times they could make silk themselves.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 04:56 PM (eoQWY)

335 The answer is more socialism!

Amanda Marcotte@AmandaMarcotte
As Elon Musk continues to destroy Twitter in his quest to be the King of the Losers (which he was without Twitter!), I take a longer look on what it would take to save Twitter: Socialize the platform. Take the profit motive out of it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 04:57 PM (FVME7)

336 Now another story I read was that this lasted until, during the reign of Justinian, some silkworms were smuggled out of China and brought to Byzantium, thus breaking up the monopoly. (I read that in Robert Graves' Count Belisarius.)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 29, 2022 04:53 PM (906pl)


That actually happened, there was a silk production industry in Southern Italy until travel around Africa made silk much cheaper.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2022 04:57 PM (xhaym)

337 Take MI out of your 2024 swingstate 270 calculation.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at November 29, 2022 04:53 PM (bzIRf)
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Take MI out forever. That's what Proposal 1 did.

Only the SoS can protest the vote count.

She happens to be a Dem right now (ad infinitum).

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 04:57 PM (krQz2)

338 I regularly do. I pray for wisdom however things may shake out. God knows, I don't. -disclaimer for Bob- I am not calling for a violent revolution here, but many of our Founders did pray and at some point, more was required.
Posted by: Fool Otto
___

When privation and starvation is staring most people in the face, only then will people rise up, as in China.

But right now, more people are concerned with being entertained and store shelves are still full for the most part.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 04:57 PM (isQS2)

339 Great Advice for every day.

Go home. Hug your loved ones. Call a friend. Tell them You appreciate them. Turn off the news. Wrote a letter. Go for a walk.

I'll hug my cat.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 04:57 PM (Z32m1)

340 I'm pretty certain that metformin is made in China due to the runny trots it provides to the user.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at November 29, 2022 04:58 PM (xxG/v)

341 I'm not as hopeful as many when it comes to this Chinese revolution. For a few years now Ive watched a lot having to do with China, and many of these people separate the ruling party with the communist party, even though they're one in the same. They push for the ouster of Xi, but also fully support communism, as they're like the communist lefties here, who believe that communism isn't bad, instead it's just that the people running the communist party aren't actually running it like communist should.

So they'll demand Xi leave office, and if he does they'll vote in Xi 2.0, expecting different results but getting the same. Most haven't had freedom and don't know what they're missing, so they'll just fight to get back to the China of 2018, instead of fighting to be like thre Hong Kong of 2018 or the Taiwan of today.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 29, 2022 04:58 PM (CM2Sa)

342 335 The answer is more socialism!

Amanda Marcotte@AmandaMarcotte
As Elon Musk continues to destroy Twitter in his quest to be the King of the Losers (which he was without Twitter!), I take a longer look on what it would take to save Twitter: Socialize the platform. Take the profit motive out of it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 04:57 PM (FVME7)

When did leftist cat ladies all start adopting Trump's style in their tweets? It's so delightfully mad I can't get over it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 29, 2022 04:58 PM (6FeV1)

343 finally, the matrix is explained: there is no spoon,
----

ONLY ZUUUL!
Posted by: Archer at November 29, 2022 04:50 PM (gmo/4)

You're crossing the streams!!

Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2022 04:58 PM (YV6PJ)

344 About a hundred million chemically imbalanced basketcase NPCs, roaming the streets in mobs, fueled to the gills on box-wine and Twitter-rage, searching pharmacies for scattered doses of Xanax and Adderall, and feasting on the flesh of The Managers.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:56 PM (oINRc)


And you sir, just got an Executive Producer Credit for the movie!

Posted by: Archer at November 29, 2022 04:58 PM (gmo/4)

345 About a hundred million chemically imbalanced basketcase NPCs, roaming the streets in mobs, fueled to the gills on box-wine and Twitter-rage, searching pharmacies for scattered doses of Xanax and Adderall, and feasting on the flesh of The Managers.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:56 PM (oINRc)

George Romero came close.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (kJLpK)

346 Reading about how SBF and FTX bought political influence and it was noted that of the$40+ million donated 92% went to democratic pols while 8% went to the gop. The
GopE is willing to sell out for 8%. And they wonder why they are hated

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (5+3xu)

347 Microdosing psilocybin mushrooms FTW!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (Ql5Kr)

348 Mitch is piling on RE Trump's dinner guests.

https://bit.ly/3ufXLwU

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (j2Xg6)

349 We'll find the cheap labor in other places and go chugging on. The fall will come from within but it is going be long at least in modern terms. Maybe half the time of Rome.

Posted by: JmT


Rome didn't have the sublime stupidity that is "Just-In-Time" logistics. Or instantaneous mass media.

I predict a sudden shock with massive disruptions, severity depending upon location; then things will settle into a general level of shittiness, with local efforts towards recovery. The key is whether the self-appointed Powers That (Shouldn't) Be interfere successfully with those recovery efforts, or they lose enough power that it happens despite them.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (OUMaO)

350 I have a guilty pleasure in watching voice coaches, opera singers etc watch and react to Queensryche videos.

And its so much fun watching the women react to watching Unchained Melody sung live, and every single one of them falling helplessly in love with Bobby Hatfield.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (cP/Ah)

351 AmandaMarcotte
As Elon Musk continues to destroy Twitter in his quest to be the King of the Losers (which he was without Twitter!), I take a longer look on what it would take to save Twitter: Socialize the platform. Take the profit motive out of it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 04:57 PM (FVME7)
++++
She's aware that Twitter isn't profitable, right? If there's one thing can be said about Twitter with perfect accuracy, it's that it has never been sullied with the reputation of being a profit-making enterprise.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 05:00 PM (t0OGg)

352 There was a legend that the legions captured when Crassus was defeated at Carrhae in 54 BC or so were sent to the eastern part of Persia and then ... ?

How many lost legions were there?
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 04:55 PM (VdGjU)

Plutarch says some 20000 were killed and 10000 captured.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 05:00 PM (eoQWY)

353 344 About a hundred million chemically imbalanced basketcase NPCs, roaming the streets in mobs, fueled to the gills on box-wine and Twitter-rage, searching pharmacies for scattered doses of Xanax and Adderall, and feasting on the flesh of The Managers.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:56 PM (oINRc)

=========

And all they can score is fentanyl laced fakes that kill them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 29, 2022 05:00 PM (LvTSG)

354 I'm not over fond of pop Christmas music.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 05:00 PM (VdGjU)

355 Amanda Marcotte@AmandaMarcotte
As Elon Musk continues to destroy Twitter in his quest to be the King of the Losers (which he was without Twitter!),

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 29, 2022 04:57 PM (FVME7)
---
That's funny, because before he talked about buying Twitter and reforming it, he was a rank-and-file Dem.

Oh, Musk you EV-pioneering loser! -- No one on the left.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 05:00 PM (krQz2)

356 What does the Horde have against box wine?

Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 05:00 PM (t4fCu)

357 The
GopE is willing to sell out for 8%. And they wonder why they are hated
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (5+3xu)

They wouldn't want to insult The Big Guy in asking for 10%.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 29, 2022 05:01 PM (6FeV1)

358 349 We'll find the cheap labor in other places and go chugging on. The fall will come from within but it is going be long at least in modern terms. Maybe half the time of Rome.

Posted by: JmT

Rome didn't have the sublime stupidity that is "Just-In-Time" logistics. Or instantaneous mass media.

I predict a sudden shock with massive disruptions, severity depending upon location; then things will settle into a general level of shittiness, with local efforts towards recovery. The key is whether the self-appointed Powers That (Shouldn't) Be interfere successfully with those recovery efforts, or they lose enough power that it happens despite them.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (OUMaO)

Rome did put price controls on grain a few times though. Strangely resulted in supply shortages in cities and consequent deurbanization.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 05:01 PM (eYoxG)

359 356 What does the Horde have against box wine?
Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 05:00 PM (t4fCu)

They're too small.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 29, 2022 05:01 PM (6FeV1)

360 348 Mitch is piling on RE Trump's dinner guests.

https://bit.ly/3ufXLwU
Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (j2Xg6)

What do you expect Mitch to discuss, China?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:01 PM (kJLpK)

361 @350

>>Bobby Hatfield.

No homo here, but that man was handsome and if I were a chick, I'd defiantly throw my panties at him.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2022 05:01 PM (5026n)

362 "Don't Vote 2024"

"I Would Prefer Not To"

"Their Game, Not Mine"

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 29, 2022 05:01 PM (CgtKh)

363 Mitch is piling on RE Trump's dinner guests.

https://bit.ly/3ufXLwU
Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (j2Xg6)
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Of course he is. Joining in on the two-minute hate is a good way to distract from your legacy of decades of failure theater.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 05:02 PM (krQz2)

364 359 356 What does the Horde have against box wine?
Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 05:00 PM (t4fCu)

They're too small.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 29, 2022 05:01 PM (6FeV1)

Even if the PRC goes tits up, we'll still have box wine.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:02 PM (kJLpK)

365 About a hundred million chemically imbalanced basketcase NPCs, roaming the streets in mobs, fueled to the gills on box-wine and Twitter-rage, searching pharmacies for scattered doses of Xanax and Adderall, and feasting on the flesh of The Managers.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:56 PM (oINRc)

Lol, we can only hope.

Posted by: JmT at November 29, 2022 05:02 PM (ZoOLl)

366
What does the Horde have against box wine?
Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 05:00 PM (t4fCu)

It is a totem of the Karens. Like ugly eyeglasses and the Prius.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 05:03 PM (oINRc)

367 Great Advice for every day.

Go home. Hug your loved ones. Call a friend. Tell them You appreciate them. Turn off the news. Wrote a letter. Go for a walk.

I'll hug my cat.
Posted by: nurse ratched
Posted by: rd at November 29, 2022 04:57 PM (Z32m1)

I got a big bag of the cat treat goop the other day so now a new ritual is to get all four of them standing on back feet trying to get their share of the goodies.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 05:03 PM (eoQWY)

368 She's aware that Twitter isn't profitable, right? If there's one thing can be said about Twitter with perfect accuracy, it's that it has never been sullied with the reputation of being a profit-making enterprise.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 29, 2022 05:00 PM (t0OGg)

To be fairrrrrr.... it's been very very profitable for certain people in it. Also for the people riding the share price with the right guidance at their disposal.

The company itself? Yeah, nah.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 29, 2022 05:03 PM (6FeV1)

369 Yo, yo, Ma!!

Forbes @Forbes · 6h Official
Elusive Chinese Billionaire Jack Ma Living In Tokyo, Report Says

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 05:03 PM (Vwz3I)

370 I predict a sudden shock with massive disruptions, severity depending upon location; then things will settle into a general level of shittiness, with local efforts towards recovery. The key is whether the self-appointed Powers That (Shouldn't) Be interfere successfully with those recovery efforts, or they lose enough power that it happens despite them.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (OUMaO)


Rome centralized production and ran most trade through Rome, when the disruptions came it isolated most of the areas forcing the areas to depend on themselves for security and whatever food and industry available. This accelerated the collapse of the empire into the manorial system of the middle ages.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2022 05:04 PM (xhaym)

371 Has anyone mentioned Taylor Lorenz completely misunderstood the meaning of "critical flaw"?

Posted by: espinostifer at November 29, 2022 05:04 PM (/Scgq)

372 Box wines are what juice boxes turn into after their expiration date.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at November 29, 2022 05:04 PM (xxG/v)

373 > ONLY ZUUUL!

O-nly ZUUUL, can make all this world seem right
Oonly ZUUL, will come claim hiiiis birthright

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:04 PM (j2Xg6)

374 No homo here, but that man was handsome and if I were a chick, I'd defiantly throw my panties at him.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2022 05:01 PM (5026n)

The other brother wasn't so pretty, but the duets seem to be just as popular in the reactor circles. Then there are the collections of reactors where someone shows about a dozen reactors melting at the same time!

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 05:05 PM (eoQWY)

375 @364

>>Even if the PRC goes tits up, we'll still have box wine.

China is the largest manufacturer of cardboard and paper products as well as plastics and vinyl products, so no, we will not have box wine.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2022 05:05 PM (5026n)

376 https://youtu.be/nyXfCq1ix3g

She's fun to watch as she's watching Bobby Hatfield

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 29, 2022 05:05 PM (fs1hN)

377 Elusive Chinese Billionaire Jack Ma Living In Tokyo, Report Says

Is he also inscrutable?

Posted by: spindrift at November 29, 2022 05:05 PM (h5TKJ)

378 371 Has anyone mentioned Taylor Lorenz completely misunderstood the meaning of "critical flaw"?
Posted by: espinostifer at November 29, 2022 05:04 PM (/Scgq)

She lives it. Has the entirety of her 23 or34 years in this world.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:05 PM (kJLpK)

379 Reading about how SBF and FTX bought political influence and it was noted that of the$40+ million donated 92% went to democratic pols while 8% went to the gop. The
GopE is willing to sell out for 8%. And they wonder why they are hated
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (5+3xu)
---
There is some scuttlebutt that the start to this Ponzi scheme was a Patsy scheme, where the Deep State and Dems needed somebody to launder Epstein's extortion money through. It probably could have been the Ukraine laundry distribution network as well.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 05:05 PM (krQz2)

380 375 @364

>>Even if the PRC goes tits up, we'll still have box wine.

China is the largest manufacturer of cardboard and paper products as well as plastics and vinyl products, so no, we will not have box wine.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2022 05:05 PM (5026n)

Oh, God. Who will tell Karen?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:06 PM (kJLpK)

381 If you don't like box wine you can always take the bag out of the box and have bag wine

Posted by: espinostifer at November 29, 2022 05:06 PM (/Scgq)

382 2nd Lieutenants know it all. Just ask us.
Posted by: Butterbars at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (a3Q+t)
-----
Where are we, sir?
Posted by: Bourbonchicken

which one of you dumb sons of bitches let the LT have the damned compass?
- Bif's Platoon Sgt, circa 1981 while on a platoon confidence training exercise walk about.

Posted by: BifBewalski at November 29, 2022 05:06 PM (3CCua)

383 So, if post 169 happens, then post 333 follows.

Will it be televised for those of us out in the countryside?

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at November 29, 2022 05:07 PM (xxG/v)

384 I wish Boone's Farm came in a box.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 05:07 PM (g4JKw)

385
She lives it. Has the entirety of her 23 or34 years in this world.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:05 PM (kJLpK)

That's a weird looking plus sign you put in there.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2022 05:07 PM (YV6PJ)

386 About a hundred million chemically imbalanced basketcase NPCs, roaming the streets in mobs, fueled to the gills on box-wine and Twitter-rage, searching pharmacies for scattered doses of Xanax and Adderall, and feasting on the flesh of The Managers.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 04:56 PM (oINRc)

----------

The Walking Dread.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 05:07 PM (N0nui)

387 someone said this morning that the dinner was a set up and the more the GOPe keeps piling on make me believe that is the case. Especially Pence. It is everyone you'd expect. The only problem for them is that this is a little early in the cycle. Notice they aren't calling Trump an anti semite which is pretty hard to prove so they are going with White Supremacist which has a more genric racism attached.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 29, 2022 05:07 PM (Y+l9t)

388 TBH my wife drinks box wine. Her name's not Karen tho'.

I'm doing gin and tonics tonight. And saying a little prayer that the storms predicted for us are not severe.

In the grand scheme of things what's happening in China isn't even on my radar.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2022 05:08 PM (Q4IgG)

389 Rome centralized production and ran most trade through Rome, when the disruptions came it isolated most of the areas forcing the areas to depend on themselves for security and whatever food and industry available. This accelerated the collapse of the empire into the manorial system of the middle ages.

Posted by: Kindltot


The Bronze Age Collapse may be a more useful model. There's a lot of good reading on that subject that starts to sound all too familiar after a while.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 29, 2022 05:09 PM (OUMaO)

390 Did the Romans establish a settlement in China? Some think they did.
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 04:36 PM (VdGjU)

Seems kind of unlikely. There's a whole empire in between them before you get to more fragmented central asia.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 04:37 PM (eYoxG

One theory is they were captured legionaries by the Parthians at the battle of Carrhae. Some of the legionaries were "gifted" to a Chinese emperor.

Posted by: Beartooth - DC delenda est at November 29, 2022 05:09 PM (kts79)

391 >>>Metallica are retirement age multi millionaires. At some point it gets hard to keep being metal

>I figured these guys would have OD'd or crashed a car years ago. Posers. Let them show us the way to sublime serenity.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 29, 2022 05:09 PM (geVLo)

392 Boy BC, Boone's Farm brings back memories. I think that Boones Farm apple wine and Mateus were my first taste of wine as a naive college freshman.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 29, 2022 05:09 PM (Y+l9t)

393 Nood Trump

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2022 05:10 PM (Do5/p)

394 " If you don't like box wine you can always take the bag out of the box and have bag wine

Posted by: espinostifer at November 29, 2022 05:06 PM (/Scgq) "


I like you. You think outside the bag.

Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2022 05:10 PM (t4fCu)

395 2nd Lieutenants know it all. Just ask us.
Posted by: Butterbars at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (a3Q+t)
-----
Where are we, sir?
Posted by: Bourbonchicken

which one of you dumb sons of bitches let the LT have the damned compass?
- Bif's Platoon Sgt, circa 1981 while on a platoon confidence training exercise walk about.
Posted by: BifBewalski at November 29, 2022 05:06 PM (3CCua)
***

Well, at least he didn't get the map!
2LT Diogenes has that...all is well!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2022 05:10 PM (anj39)

396 I'm pretty certain that metformin is made in China due to the runny trots it provides to the user.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at November 29, 2022 04:58 PM (xxG/v)

Me play joke!

Posted by: Chinee Big Pharma slave at November 29, 2022 05:10 PM (v0R5T)

397 Too bad Americans have been gelded.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (cMXNt)

398 387 someone said this morning that the dinner was a set up and the more the GOPe keeps piling on make me believe that is the case. Especially Pence. It is everyone you'd expect. The only problem for them is that this is a little early in the cycle. Notice they aren't calling Trump an anti semite which is pretty hard to prove so they are going with White Supremacist which has a more genric racism attached.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 29, 2022 05:07 PM (Y+l9t)

If the GOPe weren't so damned disgusting and despicable, their "this time we've got him!" would be even funnier.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (kJLpK)

399 "It is everyone you'd expect."

Risky topic here.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (OTzUX)

400 Elusive Chinese Billionaire Jack Ma Living In Tokyo, Report Says

Is he also inscrutable?
Posted by: spindrift at November 29, 2022 05:05 PM (h5TKJ)


Nope. Xi proved that. He scruted the hell out of poor Jack Ma.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (guGkK)

401 In other news; Liver King had his cycle leaked. Guy was taking almost 12k of HGH/month. There was other drugs too lol.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (YglAn)

402 Amanda is hitting on Musk. It is obvious.

Posted by: runner at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (CJyOE)

403 Mitch is piling on RE Trump's dinner guests.

https://bit.ly/3ufXLwU
Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 04:59 PM (j2Xg6)


As if Mitch--and Romney and the rest--would need a reason to pile on Trump

Posted by: JoeF. at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (mR6Gs)

404 https://youtu.be/nyXfCq1ix3g

She's fun to watch as she's watching Bobby Hatfield
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 29, 2022 05:05 PM (fs1hN)

She's very good because she can explain what's going on better. But the random black guy, gal or couple are also good because they first are shocked that they are white, then are more open about enjoying it than your normal european type like me.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (eoQWY)

405 It is a totem of the Karens. Like ugly eyeglasses and the Prius.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

I mock the boxed wine, even as I drink more than my share of it.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (OX9vb)

406 The most famous lost legion was the 9th which disappeared in Britain.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (VdGjU)

407 The Bronze Age Collapse may be a more useful model. There's a lot of good reading on that subject that starts to sound all too familiar after a while.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 29, 2022 05:09 PM (OUMaO)

Do we get to be the Sea People? We got boats.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 05:12 PM (eoQWY)

408 Nood Trump
------------------
Finally! Something to calm the Horde.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 05:13 PM (Vwz3I)

409 The most famous lost legion was the 9th which disappeared in Britain.
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (VdGjU)

I think the three lost in Germany under Varus are more famous, but their fate was known. For the 9th we don't know what happened to them. I read a book that had theories that they were shipped off to the East, even and got wiped out somehow.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 05:14 PM (eoQWY)

410 Amanda is hitting on Musk. It is obvious.

Posted by: runner at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (CJyOE)

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Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (N0nui)

411 I don't believe hardly any "news" anymore. We (Americans) and they (Chinese, Europe, etc) are totally fooked.

I just pray "on Earth peace to people of good will."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 29, 2022 05:18 PM (I9VC/)

412 The 9th Legion was destroyed by SCP-682.

I mean doesn't everyone know this?

Posted by: Some SCP Researcher at November 29, 2022 05:20 PM (ESjRY)

413 2nd Lieutenants know it all. Just ask us.
Posted by: Butterbars at November 29, 2022 04:39 PM (a3Q+t)
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Posted by: Bourbonchicken

Directly above the center of the earth, private.

Posted by: Thanatopsis at November 29, 2022 05:23 PM (V2gKI)

414 /sock

Posted by: Oddbob at November 29, 2022 05:40 PM (nfrXX)

415 PinePhone and a few others are literally just Linux for ARM processors on a smartphone. That's an option for using neither Google nor Apple smartphones, and PinePhone literally has hard switches to turn off the camera/microphone/etc for people who are worried about privacy with those. Probably requires a bit of technical courage to try though.

Posted by: Locarno at November 29, 2022 05:41 PM (8RcY0)

416 Lets move the whole rotten United Nations to Moscow without America to push a round let the Bear and the Dragon destroy each other and the Eagle should have nothing to do with in other then helping out after a Disaster

Posted by: Tamaa the DrongoBird at November 29, 2022 06:29 PM (wGqjj)

417 "A Possible Model for the United States"

does that include kidnapping public officials that are using the power of the state to act like terrorists? (under color of law?)

Really, kidnapping is too burdensome .. they declared war on the American people ... they overthrew an election, after four years of acting like terrorists against Trump, waging war from within against a duly elected president.

No civil war, no fighting fellow Americans in the streets (as they wish) ... no, take it right to their homes, as they took it to ours? Well not me ... I'm old and settled, but if the younger generations plan to use China as a model ... it might be about having but one life to give ... or give me freedom or give me death. (but don't give them your death too easily)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 29, 2022 06:51 PM (Cus5s)

418 China hasn't won a war against a foreign power in >500 years.

But it has managed to beat the living shit out of itself on several occasions.

Posted by: Inspector kemp at November 29, 2022 07:25 PM (+DS2f)

419 I think the point of the white paper is that it doesn't matter what slogan I use, or what I say, or do, you'll still arrest me unless I comply.

A blank sheet of copy paper is sufficient to prompt an arrest. The next wave of protest will hold up a chopstick. Or a shoe.

The symbol doesn't matter.

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