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She Said, a Movie About Two New York Times "Journalists" Uncovering the Harvey Weinstein Story, Becomes One of the Biggest Box Office Flops In History

Industry mouthpiece Variety shrieks -- what is going on? Why won't the public watch our stupid crap any longer?

Now, let me point something out: Chris Gore of Film Threat, who is One of Us, says this is actually a good movie which is not super-woke and does not portray all men as bad. The movie, I think he said, goes out of its way to portray male characters, with the singular exception of Harvey Weinstein, in a positive light.

That makes the bombing of this movie all the more delicious, honestly.

Because it means the public is just broadly rejecting the entire genre of self-congratulatory woke filmmaking -- even if the movie in question isn't all that woke.

Take "She Said," a sturdily made look at the pair of crusading New York Times journalists who helped expose Harvey Weinstein's decades of sexual harassment and assault. The film earned strong reviews and awards buzz, but the Universal Pictures release bombed last weekend, opening to a dismal $2.2 million from 2,022 theaters. That ranks as one of the worst results for a major studio release in history.

The public now knows that "strong reviews" mean nothing, and that reviewers are all shills, especially for woke content.


Part of the problem, observers say, is that the movie's searing look at an abuse of power may not have been what audiences were hoping to see at a time when the headlines are -- let's be honest -- pretty bleak. From Ukraine to the economy, there's a lot to be upset about.

"It's a tough sell," says Shawn Robbins, chief analyst with Boxoffice Pro. "People are looking for escapism right now. Even adult audiences are looking for something that takes them away from reality."

"She Said" has a lot of company when it comes to well-reviewed movies that have collapsed on the shoals of audience indifference. One by one, this year's crop of Oscar contenders have flopped or, at best, under-performed. There's "Tár," a drama about sexual harassment in the world of classical music that has eked out $4.9 million in seven weeks of release; "Armageddon Time," a coming-of-age film that has only managed to generate $1.8 million after a month in theaters; and "Triangle of Sadness," a satirical look at the one-percent that has crawled to a $3.8 million gross since opening in mid-October. "The Banshees of Inisherin" and "Till" have done slightly better, earning $7.1 million and $8.5 million, respectively, but their results aren't exactly igniting the box office; they both will likely struggle to turn a profit in their theatrical runs.

"Across the board, it's a scary time for prestige films," says Jeff Bock, an analyst with Exhibitor Relations. "We may be witnessing a sea change in cinema. Ultimately, audiences decide what gets made and right now audiences aren't choosing to watch these films in theaters."

Privately, studio executives point to a number of culprits. They say this year's awards films are too arty, too depressing, too lacking in A-list talent to convince crowds to show up. And they note that there have been success stories earlier in the year -- notably "Elvis," which was aimed at adults and earned an impressive $286 million globally, and "Everything Everywhere All at Once," a multiverse head trip that has racked up $103 million worldwide while being perceived as artistically bold. But those films didn't have to compete with a glut of other prestige fare, which could be further fracturing an already shrinking audience base, one that may be wary of hitting up cinemas during COVID.

Variety fears the end of the so-called "prestige" film:


...

So unless movies like "She Said" start performing better at the box office, a whole sector of the theatrical movie business may be imperiled. Something needs to change fast.

I can think of several reasons this particular film would bomb:

1. The media has put #MeToo and Harvey Weinstein in our faces so much we don't need to know anything more about the story. I mean, honestly. Apart from St. George Floyd and the Accountability Arsons of 2020, I can't think of any story which has gotten more media attention already.

Do we really need more about this? No, not really, we don't.

2. The movie fails to delve into the one big juicy aspect of the story that does legitimately need further exposure -- Hollywood's knowing complicity. I think Chris Gore does say that the movie is "not a whitewash" of Hollywood's complicity -- it gets mentioned -- but the movie obviously doesn't focus on Hollywood's enabling and covering-up for Weinstein. That would be new matter that could interest the public, but instead we get the same-old same old. We already know all this.

3. The public no longer accepts "journalists" as heroes. I've always thought that Hollywood loves making movies about "journalists" because they see reporters as "the actors of publishing." You know what I mean? Reporters are glib manipulators; so are actors. I think actors look at reporters and think, "I could do that, if I were capable of cracking 400 on my SAT Verbal. I wear make-up. I read a script while on camera."

And also, reporters share actors' politics -- they've long been communist sympathizers.

So Hollywood has long put reporters forward as heroes, and the public has largely played along and accepted them as heroes.

But the public now holds newspaper and television reporters in the lowest esteem in history, according to Gallup, with only 16% and 11% of the public giving newspaper and television reporters, respectively, a great deal of approval.

So maybe the public just finds the concept of the Hero Reporter to be a science-fantasy premise they can no longer suspend their collective disbelief for.

4.Harvey Weinstein is a monster, but the #MeToo movement that he spawned went far too far and became, itself, a monster. #MeToo was -- is -- an aggressive opportunistic cancer on society that was started by the carcinogen of Harvey Weinstein. Harvey Weinstein did a great amount of damage to 20 or so women, but #MeToo has done damage on a society-wide scale. It's hard to separate the good of bringing Harvey Weinstein to justice from the evil of the #MeToo movement itself, and maybe the public just isn't in the mood to attempt to parse out one from the other.

I wish I could remember who said this -- I think it might have been Nerdrotic, Gary Boechler -- but, ironically enough, it might be #TimesUp for #MeToo, and that might have doomed She Said.

Posted by: Ace at 04:06 PM




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1 Another movie I'll never see.

Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 04:05 PM (U/8Mz)

2 But happiness comes from Hollywood

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2022 04:06 PM (xhaym)

3 You lost me at "crusading New York Times journalists"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 28, 2022 04:07 PM (FFsvT)

4 What was "uncovered" it was well known for decades right? Publicized maybe.

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:08 PM (yezA1)

5 NYT and journalist.....nah, not happening.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 28, 2022 04:08 PM (uNylN)

6 No Ficus was hurt during the filming of this movie

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at November 28, 2022 04:08 PM (OgrpQ)

7 Ace when are you go to get on Friday Night Tights?

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:08 PM (yezA1)

8 you wrote a lot here

but it's b/c the ads made it look like a chick flick

a boring, political chick-driven film

no one. NO ONE. wants to watch that

they need to cut it out with the lady leads

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:08 PM (w0NJk)

9 Do we really need more about this? No, not really, we don't."

Harvey Weinstein has a diseased penis and scrotum.

now you know

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 28, 2022 04:09 PM (M+Lyo)

10 even at Mt Holyoke they will only watch this film bc a lesbian professor of women's studies forces them to

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:09 PM (w0NJk)

11 Oooh, can we get a true story movie about George Floyd, the Gentle Giant guy or Trayvon/White Hispanic guy?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 28, 2022 04:09 PM (fs1hN)

12 "So unless movies like "She Said" start performing better at the box office, a whole sector of the theatrical movie business may be imperiled. Something needs to change fast."

Maybe if they gender swapped some of the characters, and also had a version aimed at China and India?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2022 04:09 PM (xhaym)

13 "Across the board, it's a scary time for prestige films," says Jeff Bock, an analyst with Exhibitor Relations. "We may be witnessing a sea change in cinema. Ultimately, audiences decide what gets made and right now audiences aren't choosing to watch these films in theaters."

Wow. Water is wet.

Perhaps "prestige" isn't just a synonym for more lefty BS.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:09 PM (eOEVl)

14 All sound reasons for why it would be a flop. It's playing near me. I have no desire to see it, and the last thing I want to see -because it would probably be in there is-Harvey Weinstein's face.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2022 04:10 PM (vH/6k)

15 I think part of the reason this did not do well is that nobody really believes the story will be told. Which, this movie isn't about the deep corruption and perverted horror in Hollywood, but instead about the heroic women who nailed the one and only evil man who no one knew about and was totally isolated.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:10 PM (cP/Ah)

16 TV and movies love their journalists as heroes and lawyers as totally hip and funny dudebros and coolchicks.

Posted by: ... at November 28, 2022 04:10 PM (aZ2zn)

17 I can think of several reasons this particular film would bomb:
.......

5. Ugly guys wanking it into ficus plants?

Posted by: wth at November 28, 2022 04:10 PM (v0R5T)

18 Even Harvey Weinstein's dog is disabled!

Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at November 28, 2022 04:10 PM (tM5h4)

19 "So unless movies like "She Said" start performing better at the box office, a whole sector of the theatrical movie business may be imperiled. Something needs to change fast."
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Maybe stop blaming the fans for your failures? Make content that movie-goers like to see? Tell GOOD STORIES?

That would do for a start...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 28, 2022 04:11 PM (YIVH2)

20 I was the real victim here
The Ficus in Harvey's office

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:11 PM (yezA1)

21 "Harvey Weinstein did a great amount of damage to 20 or so women"

Not to mention an unknown number of potted plants.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 28, 2022 04:11 PM (24fqN)

22 5. Ugly guys wanking it into ficus plants?

Well, that's only failed once. Who else can we get? I've got it! The PeeWee Herman story.

Posted by: Hollywood at November 28, 2022 04:11 PM (eOEVl)

23 The movie needed Weinstein smashing Tokyo and ejaculating on Mt. Fuji.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 28, 2022 04:11 PM (yQpMk)

24 18 Even Harvey Weinstein's dog is disabled!


this will never be not funny

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:11 PM (w0NJk)

25 I thought that Frank Sinatra's kid broke the Weinstein story. You know, the weird looking one.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 28, 2022 04:11 PM (Y5qcH)

26 The public has to choose how to spend their limited entertainment dollars and it isn't going to be on a lecture and browbeating B.S. anymore. Either be entertaining or don't bother at all. It's boring.

Posted by: Im Your Huckleberry at November 28, 2022 04:11 PM (Xpy+E)

27 What year do you set a movie where the journalist is the good guy?

(trick question, they've always been bad)

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 28, 2022 04:12 PM (44ww/)

28 Louis Till biopic might be interesting.

Posted by: mr tmz at November 28, 2022 04:12 PM (rJ48h)

29 Well, that's only failed once. Who else can we get? I've got it! The PeeWee Herman story.

I mean, is anyone else surprised we haven't seen a movie about Jeffrey Toobin?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:12 PM (eOEVl)

30 From end of previous thread. What's the Allah symbol? Crescent moon. Allah was the moon god. He got the nod from Mohamod.

Posted by: Eromero at November 28, 2022 04:12 PM (0OP+5)

31 Variety fears the end of the so-called "prestige" film:

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The prestige film is largely a creation of the 90s when Weinstein fronted the effort to make fake independent films specifically for awards. The English Patient and Shakespeare in Love are good examples. They got strong reviews, and made some decent money on their way to winning lots of awards.

It worked when it was a newish phenomenon and you had producers like Weinstein who wanted to make things sell (even if he wasn't all that much of a creative himself).

Throw in the need to stick on message over the past 20 years ever since W was president, and you've just a dilution of the brand of prestige cinema to the point where those making it and awarding it are clapping themselves on the back for making shit people don't want to see. Remember Moonlight? Practically no one does. Yeah, Hollywood made stuff like Guess Who's Coming to Dinner in the past (not exactly great stuff, if you ask me), but it at least performed well enough at the box office.

Now? The only way to get BO and awards consideration is with Black Panther, and even then, you know it's not winning much.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:12 PM (LvTSG)

32 25 I thought that Frank Sinatra's kid broke the Weinstein story. You know, the weird looking one.

yeah but he's male so!

this film was marketed SO BADLY

also it's just focusing on two girls I guess who are whoever journalists or something but no one knows and no one cares

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:12 PM (w0NJk)

33 I get all of the reasons for this film's failure, but nobody seems to have mentioned what to me is the biggest one: Who gives a shit about the entire thing?

Weinstein was a garden-variety sexual predator, and the only difference between him and some middle manager at the local supermarket chain was the women he was abusing.

But the story itself is nothing new.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2022 04:12 PM (XIJ/X)

34 "Yadda, Yadda, Yadda," she said.

Posted by: rd at November 28, 2022 04:13 PM (jSutt)

35 17 I can think of several reasons this particular film would bomb:
.......

5. Ugly guys wanking it into ficus plants?
Posted by: wth at November 28, 2022 04:10 PM (v0R5T)

It's not just a ficus, it's Hollywood's FIRST EVER GAY TEENAGE FICUS!

Posted by: XTC at November 28, 2022 04:13 PM (UnA8+)

36 27 Greatest journalist as villain movie Ace in the Hole. Great movie.

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:13 PM (yezA1)

37 She Said? How could she say anything, Harvey had his disfigured genitals bouncing off of her tonsils.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 28, 2022 04:13 PM (0ZEfs)

38 even at Mt Holyoke they will only watch this film bc a lesbian professor of women's studies forces them to
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:09 PM (w0NJk)

The Boswell spawn played their women's golf team in a college tournament more than a few times. She witnessed first-hand the love that shall not speak its name...

Posted by: Boswell at November 28, 2022 04:13 PM (+Cgut)

39 What year do you set a movie where the journalist is the good guy?

(trick question, they've always been bad)
Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 28, 2022 04:12 PM (44ww/)
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within the inverted morality of Hollywood, the journalist can *never* be the bad guy. Unless he's a white male heterosexual, of course...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 28, 2022 04:13 PM (YIVH2)

40 13 Wow. Water is wet.

Perhaps "prestige" isn't just a synonym for more lefty BS.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:09 PM (eOEVl)

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Prestige is now meant to mean unenjoyable and kind of miserable.

At least Shakespeare in Love was fun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:13 PM (LvTSG)

41 I am still puzzled that Pee Wee Herman was ruined for jacking it in a porn theater, which is the entire point of the place. Its not like he was sniffing little girls and grabbing their nipple on national TV.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:13 PM (cP/Ah)

42 Maybe stop blaming the fans for your failures? Make content that movie-goers like to see? Tell GOOD STORIES?

That would do for a start...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 28, 2022 04:11 PM (YIVH2)


This seems to fall in line with the Mt. Holyoke profs who indoctrinate their young, vulnerable charges with falsehoods: we are miserable; we are doing things that are unhealthy mentally, physically and spiritually; we want you to join in with us to assuage our guilt over all of it.

They know what we should watch, since they think themselves our 'betters."

Posted by: Moki at November 28, 2022 04:14 PM (JrN/x)

43 Superman was a journalist.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 28, 2022 04:14 PM (Y5qcH)

44 Amazing how they can turn a true life tale of the most vile aspects of their shitty party and culture into a treatise on heroic independent truth-hunting wahmen "journalists".

That itself *is* the whitewash. The story is a fucking dastardly tragedy with the worst of humanity on full display, and as anyone with half a brain knows, the names and characters change, but even to this minute, the song remains the same.

Posted by: ... at November 28, 2022 04:14 PM (aZ2zn)

45 19 Maybe stop blaming the fans for your failures? Make content that movie-goers like to see? Tell GOOD STORIES?

That would do for a start...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 28, 2022 04:11 PM (YIVH2)

==========

How about some diversity in the critical community?

We need movie critics that look like America. We need more non-college educated white guys writing movie reviews for the New York Times.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:14 PM (LvTSG)

46 Across the board, it's a scary time for prestige films," says Jeff Bock


Translation: "people are too stupid and undignified and inarticulate to appreciate what we have diligently and painfully put before them."

Hahahahahahaha

Drop dead.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2022 04:14 PM (JWYBQ)

47 And actually "strong reviews" means that I won't like it. Those movies are badly written polemics.

I only go to movies with audience likes.

Posted by: Ultra pj at November 28, 2022 04:14 PM (G1dq6)

48 30 From end of previous thread. What's the Allah symbol? Crescent moon. Allah was the moon god. He got the nod from Mohamod.
Posted by: Eromero at November 28, 2022 04:12 PM (0OP+5)

I think they mean "Allah" Written in Arabic Script.

Posted by: XTC at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (UnA8+)

49 I remember when the Iraq war was ongoing, and we were treated to a succession of movies about how evil the war and America were. Every single one of them bombed, but they made about a half dozen of them in a row.

They are REALLY slow learners.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (eOEVl)

50 Take "She Said," a sturdily made look at the pair of crusading New York Times journalists who helped expose Harvey Weinstein's decades of sexual harassment and assault.

Except that this was an open 'secret' in Hollywood for years, decades. How intrepid of these brave NYT! reporters to cover a decades old sewer.

Why, in 2042 they can finally get around to reporting on Hunter's laptop.

Pulitzers for everyone!

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (JOtiF)

51 Perhaps "prestige" isn't just a synonym for more lefty BS.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:09 PM (eOEVl)


Boats and Hoes - Prestige Worldwide

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (OgrpQ)

52 Prestige Film?

Somebody snarkily said, "You know what 'She Said' is missing? The Harvey Weinstein touch."

Posted by: rd at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (jSutt)

53 I do feel a bit sad this bombed, though, because it is an extremely rare example of Hollywood trying a fairly original story without being stupidly woke.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (cP/Ah)

54 Spiderman was a photojournalist

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (w0NJk)

55 Imma gonna wait for the Joe Bob Briggs review, especially focused on breast count and ficus count.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (+EFHY)

56 Meh. I'll watch it when it hits the library.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (24fqN)

57 Superman was a journalist.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 28, 2022 04:14 PM (Y5qcH)



Clark was the fastest typist I ever saw.

Posted by: Perry White at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (yQpMk)

58 I remember when the Iraq war was ongoing, and we were treated to a succession of movies about how evil the war and America were. Every single one of them bombed, but they made about a half dozen of them in a row.
___

Never seen one.
Was busy at the time.

Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (U/8Mz)

59 Across the board, it's a scary time for prestige films," says Jeff Bock

so you're saying we should postpone this big-budget gritty remake of "My Dinner with Andre"?

Posted by: Movie Execs at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (lO5WT)

60 49 I remember when the Iraq war was ongoing, and we were treated to a succession of movies about how evil the war and America were. Every single one of them bombed, but they made about a half dozen of them in a row.

They are REALLY slow learners.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (eOEVl)

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Tom Cruise starred in one of those: Lambs for Lions. It bombed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (LvTSG)

61 Curiously omitted from the catalogue of reasons:

5. The part of the public that is hungry for this film, wants to see an NC-17 version that graphically depicts Weinstein's ficus appreciation. Till then, no dice.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 28, 2022 04:16 PM (ppBhU)

62 Is there a Pitch Meeting video for this film?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 28, 2022 04:16 PM (yQpMk)

63 I'm just spitballing here. But what mook thought that a movie about journalists, the most hated group by the normal citizenry, who by the way are equally, openly despised in return, would make a blockbuster movie that thousands of people would want to see?

The only way an average person wants to see a member of The Democrat Media Division is roasted on a spit over a fire with fresh vegetables.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 28, 2022 04:16 PM (L9/32)

64 It's not just a ficus, it's Hollywood's FIRST EVER GAY TEENAGE FICUS!

Wrong! It's a cross dressing ficus. It identifies as a cactus.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:16 PM (eOEVl)

65 I remember when the Iraq war was ongoing, and we were treated to a succession of movies about how evil the war and America were. Every single one of them bombed, but they made about a half dozen of them in a row.

They are REALLY slow learners.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:15 PM (eOEVl)
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And ALL of their trailers had taglines from reviewers talking about how AWESOME those movies were...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 28, 2022 04:16 PM (YIVH2)

66 Weinstein was a garden-variety sexual predator, and the only difference between him and some middle manager at the local supermarket chain was the women he was abusing.

But the story itself is nothing new.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2022 04:12 PM (XIJ/X)

How about the fact that he was propped up and protected for decades by our ultramoralistic preening left? That makes it interesting if not new.

Posted by: ... at November 28, 2022 04:16 PM (aZ2zn)

67 "Perhaps "prestige" isn't just a synonym for more lefty BS."

Normal people call it "Oscar-bait".

Literally a film only made in order to win awards from other people in the acting industry.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 28, 2022 04:16 PM (A16qB)

68 I hate movies about Hollywood about as much as I hate rock and roll songs about rock and roll bands

Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2022 04:16 PM (RHGPo)

69 "Greatest journalist as villain movie Ace in the Hole. Great movie."

Recommended.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 28, 2022 04:16 PM (24fqN)

70 >>>7 Ace when are you go to get on Friday Night Tights?


ha... I don't know if I'd have anything to say, to be honest. I get my opinions from these guys so I would just repeat stuff they've said. I don't even watch this crap!

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:17 PM (C1Zwz)

71 Any Prestige Film vs Top Gun Maverick: Fuhgeddaboudit.

Posted by: WisRich at November 28, 2022 04:17 PM (G0vdT)

72 Behold thy field of fucks........

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 28, 2022 04:17 PM (89T5c)

73 She Said, a Movie About Two New York Times "Journalists" Uncovering the Harvey Weinstein Story, Becomes One of the Biggest Box Office Flops In History

So, a Horeywood movie about whores wishing they hadn't whored themselves out. And no one cares.

Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at November 28, 2022 04:17 PM (67zsv)

74 If you're going to drop $20 and 2+ hours to see a movie, it had better be damn well worth it. Entertain me. Don't preach at me. And don't have me sit there while you regurgitate the same things everyone already knows at me.

The reason why movies like Spotlight got butts in seats is because it offered an unblinking look at something that was covered up and people knew little about. That Hollywood has been a cesspool for generations is nothing new. And we all know Weinstein's a toad -- even his lawyer opened with that little factoid. So this movie is clearly out to bestow sainthood on these reporters as All The President's Men did for those two twats who are STILL riding nearly 50 years of stardom.

Posted by: red speck at November 28, 2022 04:17 PM (gS3OW)

75 Hey this candle smells like my vagina, won't you buy it?

Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at November 28, 2022 04:17 PM (OX9EW)

76 The only way an average person wants to see a member of The Democrat Media Division is roasted on a spit over a fire with fresh vegetables.
Posted by: Marcus T
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I'll settle for frozen veggies.

Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 04:17 PM (U/8Mz)

77 Whole lotta flopping going on in here. Like date night at Stacy Abrams place.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Laptop, Doomscroller at November 28, 2022 04:17 PM (CwQXo)

78 63 I'm just spitballing here. But what mook thought that a movie about journalists, the most hated group by the normal citizenry, who by the way are equally, openly despised in return, would make a blockbuster movie that thousands of people would want to see?

The only way an average person wants to see a member of The Democrat Media Division is roasted on a spit over a fire with fresh vegetables.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 28, 2022 04:16 PM (L9/32)

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I imagine they were expecting performance along the lines of Spotlight from 2015. Spotlight made about $50 million in the US and almost $100 internationally.

Those are not exactly Marvel numbers, but it's solid for a film like it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:17 PM (LvTSG)

79 Spiderman was a photojournalist

I liked the comic I read where he was chewed out by Jameson for having boring angles and lame shots (because he webbed his camera to a wall and had it take a picture every few seconds from a static position), and he lost out to a rival for a while. Yeah the rival wasn't there to get great spidey shots every time, but he was actually taking good images with skill.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:17 PM (cP/Ah)

80 I doubt that they included the most important part of all:

That if the left and Hollywood wasn't trying to pretend that vulgar braggadocio wasn't the Worst Thing Evar in an attempt to get Trump no one would have looked twice at Weinstein since they All Knew and Weinstein who had every expectation that "I will give my wealth to the gun control effort" would work for him...would have been right.

Posted by: Synova at November 28, 2022 04:18 PM (BD/yx)

81 I'll settle for frozen veggies.
Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 04:17 PM (U/8Mz)

MMmmmmm. Frozen sweet corn that was just cut off the cob.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Laptop, Doomscroller at November 28, 2022 04:18 PM (CwQXo)

82 The movie needed Weinstein smashing Tokyo and ejaculating on Mt. Fuji.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 28, 2022 04:11 PM (yQpMk)
........

gotta be a Bonsai tree joke in here somewhere.

Posted by: wth at November 28, 2022 04:18 PM (v0R5T)

83 "Take "She Said," a sturdily made look"

This is essentially calling the film boring and bland and Made-for-TV.

"Sturdily."

Almost "Turdily."

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:18 PM (C1Zwz)

84 The only way an average person wants to see a member of The Democrat Media Division is roasted on a spit over a fire with fresh vegetables.

I would settle for a 3-day sous vide followed by a nice sear with a torch.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:18 PM (eOEVl)

85 MeToo was just another leftist attack strategy.

They targeted Judge Moore and it worked so they tried to turn it on Trump and it failed.

I still remember the crazy coot that claimed Trump raped her then going on to say rape is sexy and Trump sexy raped her in a department store dressing room.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 28, 2022 04:18 PM (ESjRY)

86 I might go and see the movie where the interpid reporter are rebuffed by every Hollywood persona, the press and their "high minded" editors.

Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2022 04:18 PM (RHGPo)

87 31:Remember Moonlight?


Wasn't that like a 'Brokeback Compton' or something?

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 28, 2022 04:18 PM (sAmhv)

88 That list of prestige films contains not a single one I have heard of.

Posted by: Skynet at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (pwExq)

89 On the very very rare occasion that I go to a movie theater to see a show, I prefer to NOT watch something that is infuriating or depressing. I'll go see something fun instead.

Last two theater movies for me? Top Gun Maverick and Deadpool. Thought about seeing Bullet Train. The kids went and told me it was pretty good.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (Wy1BU)

90 Spotlight was about an interesting topic and had male leads

so there

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (w0NJk)

91 7 Ace when are you go to get on Friday Night Tights?
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:08 PM (yezA1)

Ace - seconded 100% - they have anonymous guests all the time!

Posted by: kjl291 at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (R6UJF)

92 >>>62 Is there a Pitch Meeting video for this film?


no but he did one for Don't Worry Darling

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (C1Zwz)

93 Black Adam only pulled in around 378 million, which is a crapload of money, but since it cost around $200 million to make, probably did not break even. Which is too bad, because its a good, bad movie. Its a silly story and isn't real great but its loads of fun, and should have done better.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (cP/Ah)

94 86 I might go and see the movie where the interpid reporter are rebuffed by every Hollywood persona, the press and their "high minded" editors.
Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2022 04:18 PM (RHGPo)

=========

"We're brave! We're attacking the one powerful Hollywood figure that all of Hollywood agrees we can attack!"

"Roman Polanski?"

"Oh, no. He's fine."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (LvTSG)

95 How about the fact that he was propped up and protected for decades by our ultramoralistic preening left? BECAUSE HE WAS A HUGE DONOR

That makes it interesting if not new.

also, what was the name of that new york sex cult - and their political affiliations . . .

Posted by: Sounds too familiar at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (4+yTw)

96 This movie was clearly not told in the same vein as Spotlight, this seems to have been a we got to do a film about this at some point so why not now and get it out of the way.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (rPJbe)

97 It's not just a ficus, it's Hollywood's FIRST EVER GAY TEENAGE FICUS!

Wrong! It's a cross dressing ficus. It identifies as a cactus.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:16 PM (eOEVl)

Ow, my balls!

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (v0R5T)

98 Do they have a scene of Meryl Streep calling him "god" and the audience of trained seal applauding like crazy? If not then it's a whitewash.

Posted by: ... at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (aZ2zn)

99 wax on tree, wax off tree.

Posted by: Mr Miyagi at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (89T5c)

100 I can’t imagine why I would go pay theater money to see this movie. Maybe a casual look at it for free. Who was their target audience anyway?? Probably not theater goers.

Posted by: kraken at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (Vr12I)

101 DailyMail: Next major COVID variant IS poised to be more deadly, doctors warn after studying patient who harbored Omicron for six months

.. I'll believe this when Tony Fauci dies of COVID

Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (RHGPo)

102 "Sturdily."


= Lesbo

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (w0NJk)

103 Read one review that while Hollywood was finally admitting that weinstein was a monster, none of the thousands who enabled him were implicated or criticized in the movie. If it were an indictment of the whole industry it might sell, but the industry protects its own ergo box office bomb

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (W1h4/)

104 The Don't Worry Darling pitch meeting is pretty good, although it misses a lot of what was wrong

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (cP/Ah)

105 68 >>>I hate movies about Hollywood about as much as I hate rock and roll songs about rock and roll bands


[golf-clap]

I loved hearing how Pete Townshend abhorred "Long Live Rock" as one of the most insipid things he'd ever written.

Posted by: red speck at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (gS3OW)

106 I liked The Prestige, though.

Posted by: spindrift at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (h5TKJ)

107 It's not just a ficus, it's Hollywood's FIRST EVER GAY TEENAGE FICUS!
Posted by: XTC at November 28, 2022 04:13 PM


Even the ficus was disabled!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (4p7Em)

108 I still remember the crazy coot that claimed Trump raped her then going on to say rape is sexy and Trump sexy raped her in a department store dressing room. Posted by: 18-1
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Due to NY's change of liability laws, she is pursuing the claim again.

Posted by: whig at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (bDjBG)

109 102 "Sturdily."
= Lesbo

lol

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (C1Zwz)

110 NXIUM.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (89T5c)

111 So unless movies like "She Said" start performing better at the box office, a whole sector of the theatrical movie business may be imperiled. Something needs to change fast.


Let's not be fooled. Its not going away. These have always been money losers. The problem is that Hollywood has decided they need to shove all this garbage into every other type of movie out there and it is hurting those as well. And when your grocery bill has doubled you can't really see going to movies as often as you were when their prices have doubled too.

Ryan Kinel has pointed out that yeah Wakanda Forever is doing ok at the box office, and isn't that much of a drop from Black Panther. Except ticket prices have climbed higher and if you account for that you are looking at a loss of 40% of the audience.

Posted by: buzzion at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (aRLgQ)

112 81 I'll settle for frozen veggies.
Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 04:17 PM (U/8Mz)

MMmmmmm. Frozen sweet corn that was just cut off the cob.

My Mammaw always froze the sweet corn after they bought it from whatever stand they passed on the road (or when she sent Pappaw out to get it.) She could cut corn off in these perfect strips- never touching a kernel- then crumble them off the bit of cob into a bowl. She'd do that for about an hour, we'd eat fresh, fried sweet corn and she would freeze the rest.

Dear Lord, I miss them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Laptop, Doomscroller at November 28, 2022 04:21 PM (CwQXo)

113 >>>106 I liked The Prestige, though.

i love that movie. Now that i what I call a Prestige film.

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:21 PM (C1Zwz)

114 "Sturdily."


Workmanlike direction.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 28, 2022 04:21 PM (yQpMk)

115 95 also, what was the name of that new york sex cult - and their political affiliations . . .
Posted by: Sounds too familiar at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM (4+yTw)

NXIVM.

Posted by: XTC at November 28, 2022 04:21 PM (UnA8+)

116 Damn, Irene Cara dead at 63 with no cause of death? Of course there isn't. Nobody knows what anybody dies of anymore these days. A real mystery it seems.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2022 04:21 PM (VwHCD)

117 If it were an indictment of the whole industry it might sell

Maybe. But its not exactly a story anyone really cares about. Yeah, Hollywood is full of scum. Get back to us when the entire place is in flames and heads are on pikes. Until then its just another story of injustice framed as some great heroic win.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:21 PM (cP/Ah)

118 I loved hearing how Pete Townshend abhorred "Long Live Rock" as one of the most insipid things he'd ever written. Posted by: red speck
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That being said, that song was the inspiration for the Quadrophenia album.

Posted by: whig at November 28, 2022 04:21 PM (bDjBG)

119 Golly, you mean powerful men leverage their power to get laid? When did that start? I mean, it couldn't possibly be true, could it?

gack

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 28, 2022 04:22 PM (okGHj)

120 Posted by: kjl291 at November 28, 2022 04:19 PM

Feed me!

Posted by: The Barrel at November 28, 2022 04:22 PM (4p7Em)

121 I heard Brian Dennehy did a very compelling job as the Potted Plant.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue surrounded by boobs and booze at November 28, 2022 04:22 PM (IIE/R)

122 Am I misremembering? I thought journalists were themselves as implicated as anyone other group, including hollywood. Matt lauer, charlie rose, garrison keilor, tavis smiley, etc.?

Posted by: snarfblaat at November 28, 2022 04:22 PM (aETdl)

123 In Spotlight they perpetuated the propaganda wokeaganda that boys were chosen not because the predators were *gay*, but because the boys would find it embarrassing. The implication of course being that girls wouldn't be shamed by being molested.

All to prop up their precious "narrative".

Sick twisted demented satanic unholy fucks.

Posted by: ... at November 28, 2022 04:22 PM (aZ2zn)

124 I'll go see it if those two young actresses lay down on the couch, get comfortable and take off their tops.

Posted by: Ripley at November 28, 2022 04:22 PM (MxEKc)

125 Birmingham Mayor’s Common-Sense Proposal: Just Regulate Guns in Cities

https://tinyurl.com/e5cjbjfc

Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 04:22 PM (U/8Mz)

126 I can't understand ANYBODY seeing Wakanda Forever but I know Marvel Disney bots myself who just consume any shit that gets put out.

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (yezA1)

127 111 Ryan Kinel has pointed out that yeah Wakanda Forever is doing ok at the box office, and isn't that much of a drop from Black Panther. Except ticket prices have climbed higher and if you account for that you are looking at a loss of 40% of the audience.
Posted by: buzzion at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (aRLgQ)

========

That math doesn't make sense. Average ticket price in 2018 was $9.11 while average ticket price in 2022 is $9.17. Considering inflation, ticket prices are probably lower in terms of real value in 2022 than in 2018.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (LvTSG)

128 I thought the "All Quiet on the Western Front" German movie was good

totally OT but it was pretty ok

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (w0NJk)

129 I did like The Prestige a lot, that was a mystery that was well done. It really kept me guessing for a long time. Nolans are really gifted at telling a story, but apparently its a massive editing project because they film tons of crazy stuff then try to turn it into a story, and sometimes it shows.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (cP/Ah)

130 NXIUM.
==
Speaking of lesbians . . .

Posted by: Coinkydink? at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (dp6zy)

131 That Prometheus Guy must be reveling in all this cinematic content!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (a3Q+t)

132 Who plays Weinstein?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (atmen)

133 116 Damn, Irene Cara dead at 63 with no cause of death? Of course there isn't. Nobody knows what anybody dies of anymore these days. A real mystery it seems.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2022 04:21 PM (VwHCD)


Unless they weren't vaccinated and caught covid. Then you know, they make sure you know.

Posted by: buzzion at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (aRLgQ)

134 >>>Let's not be fooled. Its not going away. These have always been money losers.

well not exactly. The concept of a prestige film has changed. it used to be a middlebrow movie often with overseas locations like Out of Africa or Saving Private Ryan or Chariots of Fire that would be expected to make pretty decent money. Now their oscar bait is all about gay minorities who take cello lessons from retarded pedos and make NO MONEY.

But that's their choice. No one forced them to redefine prestige picture like that.

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (C1Zwz)

135 >Sturdily

>workmanlike

Madesome

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (44ww/)

136 Read one review that while Hollywood was finally admitting that weinstein was a monster, none of the thousands who enabled him were implicated or criticized in the movie. If it were an indictment of the whole industry it might sell, but the industry protects its own ergo box office bomb
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (W1h4/)


I want to know the complete Weinstein story - the women who DID welcome his advances and got favorable treatment as a result of it.

Posted by: Wally at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (FJYfm)

137 68 >>>I hate movies about Hollywood about as much as I hate rock and roll songs about rock and roll bands

---------------------------------
Try John Enwistle's contribution to the Who by Numbers album: Success Story.

Hilarious.

Posted by: whig at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (bDjBG)

138 119 Golly, you mean powerful men leverage their power to get laid? When did that start? I mean, it couldn't possibly be true, could it?

gack
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at November 28, 2022 04:22 PM (okGHj)

I'd do the strike through thing, but I prefer not to tempt the barrel with black sorcery.

"Golly, you mean men leverage their power to get laid? When did that start? I mean, it couldn't possibly be true, could it?"

Well, assholes do anyway.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Laptop, Doomscroller at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (CwQXo)

139 Golly, you mean powerful men leverage their power to get laid? When did that start? I mean, it couldn't possibly be true, could it?


Did you also know that (hold onto your hat) there are women out there who are willing to trade sexual favors for other kinds of favors from powerful men?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (eOEVl)

140 123 In Spotlight they perpetuated the propaganda wokeaganda that boys were chosen not because the predators were *gay*, but because the boys would find it embarrassing. The implication of course being that girls wouldn't be shamed by being molested.


seriously?!?! THAT is the spin, three dots?!?!

holy hell that's like a other level of torment DO THEY EVEN CARE about the victims

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (w0NJk)

141 Hollywood and the New York Times are both vile.

Great idea for a movie.

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (CaJIi)

142
But Harvey employed Obama's daughter, and opposed the NRA so he's a sympathetic villain, right?

Posted by: Auspex at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (fs6R/)

143 117 yup and therefore box office bomb. Couldn't happen to a bigger bunch of a-holes

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (W1h4/)

144 132 Who plays Weinstein?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (atmen)

John Fetterman????

Posted by: kraken at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (Vr12I)

145 That math doesn't make sense. Average ticket price in 2018 was $9.11 while average ticket price in 2022 is $9.17. Considering inflation, ticket prices are probably lower in terms of real value in 2022 than in 2018.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (LvTSG)



He had a different average ticket price.

Posted by: buzzion at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (aRLgQ)

146 Damn, Irene Cara dead at 63 with no cause of death? Of course there isn't. Nobody knows what anybody dies of anymore these days. A real mystery it seems.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2022 04:21 PM (VwHCD)
__

"Unknown cause" is the leading cause of death nowadays.

Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (U/8Mz)

147 gay minorities who take cello lessons from retarded pedos

ok who is leaking scripts to this guy???

Posted by: Movie Execs at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (lO5WT)

148 Who plays Weinstein?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (atmen)
........

Fetterman?

Posted by: wth at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (v0R5T)

149 Who plays Weinstein?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (atmen)



Danny Devito would have been perfect.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 28, 2022 04:25 PM (yQpMk)

150 Old news

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2022 04:25 PM (xhxe8)

151 Wasn't that Drummer movie an example of a non-woke prestige (oscar-bait) film? A few years ago. Spin cycle or something like that? Had J Jonah Jameson in it?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Laptop, Doomscroller at November 28, 2022 04:25 PM (CwQXo)

152 >>>at telling a story, but apparently its a massive editing project because they film tons of crazy stuff then try to turn it into a story, and sometimes it shows.

he does tons of cross-editing, where people are speaking in one scene but he's showing you the visuals of another, to compress multiple scenes down into as short a time as possible

he really needs to just write a script of a proper shooting length (that is, one where he doesn't have to go crazy in the editing bay to get it down to 2 hours and 25 minutes, which is still long)

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:25 PM (C1Zwz)

153 I hate movies about Hollywood

Are there that many?

I like Altman's The Player.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 28, 2022 04:25 PM (ppBhU)

154 "Unknown cause" is the leading cause of death nowadays.


I like to call it "coincidentitis"

did you see her post to Twitter about how EXCITED she was to get boosted, right away!

what a feeling!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:26 PM (w0NJk)

155 ficus -- a tree, shrub, or climbing plant of a large genus that includes the figs and the rubber plant.

Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2022 04:26 PM (RHGPo)

156 How about the fact that he was propped up and protected for decades by our ultramoralistic preening left? That makes it interesting if not new.

Posted by: ... at November 28, 2022 04:16 PM (aZ2zn)

That's a fair point. But the entire entertainment industry is treated that way.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2022 04:26 PM (XIJ/X)

157 I heard Brian Dennehy did a very compelling job as the Potted Plant.

I...don't want to talk about it.
*shudders*

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at November 28, 2022 04:26 PM (eOEVl)

158 Hi, SMH.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:26 PM (atmen)

159 Whiplash

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:26 PM (yezA1)

160 Apparently they also borrowed one of those shot up penis prosthetics from the Robocop Remake Dickageddon video to do a lifelike impersonation of Harvey's real life little friend.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue surrounded by boobs and booze at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (IIE/R)

161 Also old #Me Too turned out to be only some not all

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (xhxe8)

162 159 Whiplash
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:26 PM (yezA1)

That's the one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Laptop, Doomscroller at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (CwQXo)

163 Who plays Weinstein?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (atmen)
.........

I don't know, but if you hum a few bars...

Posted by: wth at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (v0R5T)

164 151 Wasn't that Drummer movie an example of a non-woke prestige (oscar-bait) film? A few years ago. Spin cycle or something like that? Had J Jonah Jameson in it?


Whiplash

FANTASTIC film. God I loved that.

my kids were in this super intense sport-related club and everyone thought we were nuts to put them thru that. it was .. wow that movie spoke to us. so much the same.

BUT ... that is how you get to be something more than you would otherwise. sometimes it has to hurt a little bit hmm

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (w0NJk)

165 Seattle City Council Set to Make Mayor’s New ‘Defund the Police’ Cuts Permanent

https://tinyurl.com/4prtdxkm

Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (U/8Mz)

166 When Jaws, Star Wars and other summer blockbusters started coming out in the 70's (another period of low national esteem and high stress), there was the same alarmism about the end of prestige films. Instead, the writing and acting for such films improved. We'll see if history repeats.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (HmZuC)

167 well not exactly. The concept of a prestige film has changed. it used to be a middlebrow movie often with overseas locations like Out of Africa or Saving Private Ryan or Chariots of Fire that would be expected to make pretty decent money. Now their oscar bait is all about gay minorities who take cello lessons from retarded pedos and make NO MONEY.
But that's their choice. No one forced them to redefine prestige picture like that.
Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (C1Zwz)


Ok so the term prestige film has changed. But I hold that the type of movie this is has always been a loser. It's the self congratulatory bullshit or the "we're sending a message!" type movies.

Posted by: buzzion at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (aRLgQ)

168 ficus -- a tree, shrub, or climbing plant of a large genus that includes the figs and the rubber plant.

Posted by: SMOD at November 28, 2022 04:26 PM (RHGPo)

uh huh, he said rubber plant

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (OgrpQ)

169 I hate movies about Hollywood

Are there that many?

I like Altman's The Player.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 28, 2022 04:25 PM (ppBhU)


I liked Bowfinger, but mostly for the shots it took at Scientology at a time when Scientology was pretty powerful in Hollywood.

Posted by: Wally at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (FJYfm)

170 Did Whoreywood actresses let Harvey grab em by the p***y? Weinstein was collateral damage in the get Trump effort as mentioned above.

Sucks to be on the wrong side of leftism, they'll take your money, protect you until it becomes useful to throw you under the bus.

It is a lie that they care about his abuse of power. They don't care about Warnock's assholery either, as long as it helps the cause.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (fs1hN)

171 145 He had a different average ticket price.
Posted by: buzzion at November 28, 2022 04:24 PM (aRLgQ)

=========

Got mine from here:

https://tinyurl.com/w8ur8xrp

Be wary of news declaring Hollywood or Disney in freefall. They're hurting, but it's not a disaster area...yet.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (LvTSG)

172 Rapists. Mass murderers. Cartoon fags. Who wants to see this shit?

I couldn't tell you the last time I bought popcorn in a theater.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (geVLo)

173 I am trying to remember if Christian Bale gained, or lost, 50 pounds for his role in The Prestige - had to be one or the other.

Posted by: kraken at November 28, 2022 04:28 PM (Vr12I)

174 Any time someone dies I pretty much assume it was clot shot unless it definitely wasn't

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:28 PM (yezA1)

175 160 Apparently they also borrowed one of those shot up penis prosthetics from the Robocop Remake Dickageddon video to do a lifelike impersonation of Harvey's real life little friend.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue surrounded by boobs and booze at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (IIE/R)

I would... NOT buy that for a dollar!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Laptop, Doomscroller at November 28, 2022 04:28 PM (CwQXo)

176 but apparently its a massive editing project because they film tons of crazy stuff then try to turn it into a story, and sometimes it shows.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (cP/Ah)

The first trailer for Inception has Levitt running in the yellow hotel, and is suddenly falling straight forward. I was pissed it wasn't in the movie. Maybe someone got injured.

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 28, 2022 04:28 PM (44ww/)

177 I heard Brian Dennehy did a very compelling job as the Potted Plant.

If Verne Troyer weren't dead, he'd have been perfect to play Harvey's micro-penis. Hell, maybe he'd still be perfect for the role.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 28, 2022 04:28 PM (ppBhU)

178 A movie about a pair of people whose profession wants me defenseless and unemployed heroically investigating a man who wants me defenseless and unemployed for the evil he inflicted on a different set of people who also want to see me defenseless and unemployed.

Where do I get tickets?

Posted by: Chuck C at November 28, 2022 04:28 PM (xttsV)

179 155 Oops! There goes another rubber tree plant.

— Harvey Weinstein

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:28 PM (atmen)

180 Hey, Bulg.

Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 04:28 PM (U/8Mz)

181 If it were an indictment of the whole industry it might sell, but the industry protects its own ergo box office bomb
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (W1h4/)


I want to know the complete Weinstein story - the women who DID welcome his advances and got favorable treatment as a result of it.
Posted by: Wally at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (FJYfm)
---------

A real journalist would dig into all aspects of devient Hollywood including this one.

Posted by: WisRich at November 28, 2022 04:28 PM (G0vdT)

182 152 he really needs to just write a script of a proper shooting length (that is, one where he doesn't have to go crazy in the editing bay to get it down to 2 hours and 25 minutes, which is still long)
Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:25 PM (C1Zwz)

==========

I think that's just how Nolan likes to make movies. I don't think he's going to change.

I expect lots of it in Oppenheimer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:28 PM (LvTSG)

183 The good thing for the producers of She Said is that they only have one other competitor in the Oscar field for documentaries in 2022: Wakanda Forever.

Posted by: red speck at November 28, 2022 04:29 PM (gS3OW)

184 154 "Unknown cause" is the leading cause of death nowadays.


I like to call it "coincidentitis"

did you see her post to Twitter about how EXCITED she was to get boosted, right away!

what a feeling!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:26 PM (w0NJk)

Owie!!! Lol!

Posted by: kraken at November 28, 2022 04:29 PM (Vr12I)

185 Who plays Weinstein?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (atmen)

Bill Clinton.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2022 04:29 PM (XIJ/X)

186 136 that would be interesting. Evidence of that begins with all of the woman who after his first act of disgusting behavior willingly went to his hotel room to discuss possible "acting roles"(see Mrs Newsome)

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2022 04:29 PM (W1h4/)

187 # MeToo became a tool for female executives to get promoted. The guy need not have actually been guilty...

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:29 PM (yezA1)

188 but the Universal Pictures release bombed last weekend, opening to a dismal $2.2 million from 2,022 theaters. That ranks as one of the worst results for a major studio release in history.

Pffft. Hold my Appletini.

Posted by: Bros at November 28, 2022 04:29 PM (guGkK)

189 Birmingham Mayor’s Common-Sense Proposal: Just Regulate Guns in Cities

If you banned gun ownership for anyone who ever had a ballot cast in their name for a Democrat presidential candidate you'd pretty much end "gun crime" in America

Posted by: 18-1 at November 28, 2022 04:29 PM (ESjRY)

190 Now their oscar bait is all about gay minorities who take cello lessons from retarded pedos and make NO MONEY.

But that's their choice. No one forced them to redefine prestige picture like that.

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:23 PM (C1Zwz)
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South Park had this pegged a long time ago (very early season) when they had a film festival where the movies were mostly about gay cowboys eating pudding...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 28, 2022 04:29 PM (YIVH2)

191 so the Knives Out sequel is "indebted" to The Last of Sheila, okay, I like that movie, and then, just to make sure he pleases his Blue Audience, Benoit Blanc is revealed as gay and his "partner" is in the movie

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:30 PM (C1Zwz)

192 And by the way, who really gives a shit about Harvey Weinstein wagging his Johnson at starlets? Does most of the country know who he is- or care?

And by the way, if they don't know who he is, do you really think they care about the so-called journalists who "uncovered" OMG!! the story.

You know, the story that everyone including the "journalists" knew about but were too afraid for their careers to say so. Until it was in the open and they knew Weinstein couldn't hurt them anymore because. Talk about self serving bullshit.

I think the only brave one was Rose McGowan. And look how they treated her until her story was proven true.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 28, 2022 04:30 PM (L9/32)

193 153 I hate movies about Hollywood

Are there that many?

I like Altman's The Player.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 28, 2022 04:25 PM (ppBhU)

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Most of them seem to portray Hollywood as an awful place, like Get Shorty or The Player.

Remember when House of Cards was first started and there were these reports of politicians loving the portrait it showed of DC? These are all awful people, and they all kind of know it, loving to see the seedier side of their lives brought to screen. I suspect Hollywood is little different.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:30 PM (LvTSG)

194 Just when you think that you've used one too many Brazzers socks, along comes Hollywood with yet another Harvey Weinstein flop!

Posted by: Brazzers at November 28, 2022 04:30 PM (xxG/v)

195 a drama about sexual harassment in the world of classical music

I had to fight not to fall asleep just reading that. Do better, Hollywood.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 28, 2022 04:30 PM (ZGrMX)

196 Seattle City Council Set to Make Mayor’s New ‘Defund the Police’ Cuts Permanent

Posted by: SMH

In other news: Seattle continues to be a shi*hole.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 28, 2022 04:31 PM (jsTDj)

197 i kinda wanted to see the knives out sequel but now i'm very meh on it

it's not that it's such a big deal if there's one gay detective. (And Daniel Craig has been dying to "play" gay forever.)

it's just... of course he's gay. everything's gay. gay gay gay gay gay.

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:31 PM (C1Zwz)

198 John Fetterman????
Posted by: kraken

He is acting as a senator for a six year gig unless replaced by an understudy.

Posted by: whig at November 28, 2022 04:31 PM (bDjBG)

199 That math doesn't make sense. Average ticket price in 2018 was $9.11 while average ticket price in 2022 is $9.17.

I think it depends how you do the math. Ticket prices are routinely $13 or higher in big cities, where I suspect most of the moviegoing public exists. If you add up all the total ticket prices and divide by the number of theaters, you're going to get a bit unhelpful number. If you sell 500 tickets in Manhattan and 57 in Scio, Oregon, the average price of a ticket doesn't tell you much.

A better metric would be to add up the total earnings and divide by tickets SOLD to get a realistic rating of how much people are paying to see films. The real test for Wakanda is legs: will it stay in theaters long and will people keep going back? I doubt it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:31 PM (cP/Ah)

200 195 a drama about sexual harassment in the world of classical music


what is that, Tar?

lesbos again

box office poison, unless you do it the right away. with pretty blonde ones that don't talk a lot

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:31 PM (w0NJk)

201 large genus that includes the figs and the rubber plant.


Oops, he fucks another rubber tree, oops he fucks another rubber tree plant.

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2022 04:32 PM (gmo/4)

202 Bring back war movies with high body counts!

Posted by: ALH at November 28, 2022 04:32 PM (yXkbV)

203 I am trying to remember if Christian Bale gained, or lost, 50 pounds for his role in The Prestige - had to be one or the other.
Posted by: kraken at November 28, 2022 04:28 PM (Vr12I)
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He lost insane weight for The Machinist, and then gained insane weight for Batman Begins...I think he had to slim down a bit for The Prestige as it didn't make sense for the character to be as muscular as Bruce Wayne/Batman...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 28, 2022 04:32 PM (YIVH2)

204 Whiplash

FANTASTIC film. God I loved that.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:27 PM (w0NJk)

Me too! But they cheated by having J.K. Simmons in it...he is great in every role he does.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2022 04:32 PM (XIJ/X)

205 174 Any time someone dies I pretty much assume it was clot shot unless it definitely wasn't
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:28 PM (yezA1)

A guy I worked with for years just passed away last week. I had spoken to him like two weeks ago and he had said he was having issues. They were looking to put in a pacemaker/defib thing. I never think clot shot because I just do not think like that, but it does make me wonder.

He was a good guy. We'd argue until we were red in the face. He seemed to lose his fire a couple years ago. He was in his early 60s though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Laptop, Doomscroller at November 28, 2022 04:32 PM (CwQXo)

206 191 so the Knives Out sequel is "indebted" to The Last of Sheila, okay, I like that movie, and then, just to make sure he pleases his Blue Audience, Benoit Blanc is revealed as gay and his "partner" is in the movie

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:30 PM (C1Zwz)

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It also made a shit ton of money on few screens.

Netflix's strategy really is to just to draw people to its subscription service. Making money is a secondary concern.

Whatever. Not my money. I'm just hoping Rian Johnson has a clause in his contract requiring a physical disc release for purchase at some point (Netflix has partnered with Criterion for releases like The Irishman and Okja).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:32 PM (LvTSG)

207 it's just... of course he's gay. everything's gay. gay gay gay gay gay.


Someone has to volunteer to comfort his wife. Okay, I'll take the bullet.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:33 PM (eOEVl)

208 I liked the one where Hollywood fell into the ocean.

Posted by: fd at November 28, 2022 04:33 PM (sn5EN)

209 187 # MeToo became a tool for female executives to get promoted. The guy need not have actually been guilty...
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:29 PM (yezA1)


Nerdrotic should start referring to it as the J.J. Abrams promotion project. Since it seems that him, his wife, and his company were the ones that most benefited from it.

Posted by: buzzion at November 28, 2022 04:33 PM (aRLgQ)

210 Starring Brianna Wu as Alyssa Milano as the aspiring casting couch "actress".

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue surrounded by boobs and booze at November 28, 2022 04:33 PM (IIE/R)

211 > Birmingham Mayor’s Common-Sense Proposal: Just Regulate Guns in Cities

I absolutely HATE this phrase. Guns are very regulated in America. There are tens of thousands of laws regulating guns. The phrase, "just regulated guns" implies that guns are completely unregulated.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 28, 2022 04:33 PM (eyxn4)

212 199 A better metric would be to add up the total earnings and divide by tickets SOLD to get a realistic rating of how much people are paying to see films. The real test for Wakanda is legs: will it stay in theaters long and will people keep going back? I doubt it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:31 PM (cP/Ah)

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That's what the link from The-Numbers does:

https://tinyurl.com/w8ur8xrp

(reposted from earlier in thread)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:33 PM (LvTSG)

213 a drama about sexual harassment in the world of classical music


Another take on, "Rock me Amadeus?"


Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2022 04:33 PM (gmo/4)

214 SMH, how did your granddaughter enjoy the Museum of Play?

(Apologies if I asked this on an earlier thread.)

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:33 PM (atmen)

215 it's just... of course he's gay. everything's gay. gay gay gay gay gay.

"Everyone has AIDS! AIDS AIDS AIDS!" - Gary Johnson

Posted by: Ian S. at November 28, 2022 04:33 PM (ZGrMX)

216 Me too! But they cheated by having J.K. Simmons in it...he is great in every role he does.

He's especially good in the Farmer's Insurance ads.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:34 PM (eOEVl)

217 I like to call it "coincidentitis"

did you see her post to Twitter about how EXCITED she was to get boosted, right away!

what a feeling!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:26 PM (w0NJk)

Why am I not surprised. Everybody is just giddy about lining up for "Carousel".

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2022 04:34 PM (VwHCD)

218 202 Bring back war movies with high body counts!
Posted by: ALH at November 28, 2022 04:32 PM (yXkbV)

Just saw the new All Quiet on the Western Front.

Was excellent though don't expect to go to bed feeling all that cheery. The landscape throughout the fighting is probably the most depressing thing that has ever captivated me.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 28, 2022 04:34 PM (KbCG3)

219 Next hero reporter movie... ",The Khashoggi Dossier!".

Posted by: Beartooth - DC delenda est at November 28, 2022 04:34 PM (kts79)

220 My belief is that the MeToo moment was created by a DEM PR firm expressly for the purpose of taking the focus off of Weinstein by allowing wine moms throughout America to put the focus instead onto themselves and "the patriarchy." It was all done to protect the Clintons since Weinstein was a big donor and friend.

Hollywood women jumped on the bandwagon because they had enabled and even relied on people like Weinstein. They had been part of the abusive environment, and this allowed them to instead be heroes and victims.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 28, 2022 04:35 PM (BJKQV)

221 I've heard the Guillermo del Toro Pinocchio stop motion movie is great. My mother caught a screening (I think she was in Denver) and just had to text me about it.

I'm looking forward to that one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:35 PM (LvTSG)

222 216 Me too! But they cheated by having J.K. Simmons in it...he is great in every role he does.

He's especially good in the Farmer's Insurance ads.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:34 PM (eOEVl)

He was in some movie where he had IBS. He exploded onto the screen!!

Posted by: kraken at November 28, 2022 04:35 PM (Vr12I)

223 Figs use rubbers? Thought they just prepped with Descovy.

Posted by: wth at November 28, 2022 04:35 PM (v0R5T)

224 I think you could make a movie about a truly great reporter without having it focus on the ghey. I'm thinking Shepherd Smith.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (eOEVl)

225 Musk promises he will release, "The Twitter files on free speech suppression" on the Twitter platform.

https://bit.ly/3in5nLH

Posted by: bonhomme at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (eyxn4)

226 The last honest reporter was Carl Kolchak.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (atmen)

227 By the pricking of my thumb, something awesome this way comes:

@elonmusk 25m
The Twitter Files on free speech suppression soon to be published on Twitter itself. The public deserves to know what really happened ...

Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (HmZuC)

228 Evening.

Small character dramas and Oscar bait will fail at the box office because no one wants to pay $15 to $20 bucks a head to see something that's more easily appreciated on home video or streaming. In high definition. Without the annoying audience chatter.

If I'm paying $15 to $20 bucks for a movie then that shit better gave big fucking explosions. Or titties. Or big fucking exploding titties.

Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (ZCxxu)

229 Just saw the new All Quiet on the Western Front.

Was excellent though don't expect to go to bed feeling all that cheery. The landscape throughout the fighting is probably the most depressing thing that has ever captivated me.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
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WWI experience in the trenches inspired JRR Tolkien's description of Mordor in the Lord of the Rings.

Posted by: whig at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (bDjBG)

230 MeToo became a tool for female executives to get promoted.

I think that was what it always was: a way to clear out the old guard in Hollywood that cared about profits, quality writing, and pleasing customers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (cP/Ah)

231 221 I've heard the Guillermo del Toro Pinocchio stop motion movie is great. My mother caught a screening (I think she was in Denver) and just had to text me about it.

I'm looking forward to that one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:35 PM (LvTSG)

So who is Gay?? Pinocchio or Geppetto?

Posted by: kraken at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (Vr12I)

232 The last honest reporter was Carl Kolchak.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (atmen)


Yeah, and all he got was one season.

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2022 04:37 PM (gmo/4)

233 >>My belief is that the MeToo moment was created by a DEM PR firm expressly for the purpose of taking the focus off of Weinstein by allowing wine moms throughout America to put the focus instead onto themselves and "the patriarchy." It was all done to protect the Clintons since Weinstein was a big donor and friend.

could be. Gary boechler is always saying that J.J. Abrams' wife created it as a vehicle to get her and her fellow harpies jobs in Hollywood.

but there could be multiple uses.

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:37 PM (C1Zwz)

234 Anyone remember right after this when these studios came out and said that they would be removing ol' Harvey's name from the credits?

Not sure what's ballsier, thinking that whitewashing his name out of their projects without giving any money back makes them less culpable or asking us to pay them money to see a movie about a monster they enabled. It's a close one.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 28, 2022 04:37 PM (KbCG3)

235 231 Jiminy Cricket

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:38 PM (atmen)

236 229 WWI experience in the trenches inspired JRR Tolkien's description of Mordor in the Lord of the Rings.
Posted by: whig at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (bDjBG)

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The Tolkien movie (titled Tolkien, of course) was very good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:38 PM (LvTSG)

237 By the pricking of my thumb, something awesome this way comes:

@elonmusk 25m
The Twitter Files on free speech suppression soon to be published on Twitter itself. The public deserves to know what really happened ...
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (HmZuC)

I've got an erection that could cut a diamond.

Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2022 04:38 PM (ZCxxu)

238 I cant to see the new sitcoms, especially, "The George Lopez Show", all about those crazy Mexicans.

Posted by: Javems at November 28, 2022 04:38 PM (AmoqO)

239 @elonmusk 25m
The Twitter Files on free speech suppression soon to be published on Twitter itself. The public deserves to know what really happened ...
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (HmZuC)
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*popcorn, popping*

Posted by: WisRich at November 28, 2022 04:38 PM (G0vdT)

240 232 The last honest reporter was Carl Kolchak.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (atmen)


Yeah, and all he got was one season.

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2022 04:37 PM (gmo/4)

Did not realize that Joss Whedon produced it.

Posted by: kraken at November 28, 2022 04:38 PM (Vr12I)

241 >>>232 The last honest reporter was Carl Kolchak.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (atmen)


Yeah, and all he got was one season.

...

Be here Friday.

That was the fun post that got pushed back last week.


Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:38 PM (C1Zwz)

242 233 could be. Gary boechler is always saying that J.J. Abrams' wife created it as a vehicle to get her and her fellow harpies jobs in Hollywood.

but there could be multiple uses.
Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:37 PM (C1Zwz)

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And Kathleen Kennedy just sits back and smiles...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:38 PM (LvTSG)

243 Guillermo del Toro. has a horror anthology on Hulu or something? Cabinet of Curiosities?

anyone see?

ace omg

del Toro does a little intro thing to each ep

let me know what you think it reminds you of!!! I laugh thru every intro (not that you can understand what he's saying anyway)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:38 PM (w0NJk)

244 Musk promises he will release, "The Twitter files on free speech suppression" on the Twitter platform.

Yeah I am looking forward to that -- if he goes through with it. He promised to release the discussions on Hunter Biden Laptop as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:38 PM (cP/Ah)

245 221 I've heard the Guillermo del Toro Pinocchio stop motion movie is great. My mother caught a screening (I think she was in Denver) and just had to text me about it.

I'm looking forward to that one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:35 PM (LvTSG)

So who is Gay?? Pinocchio or Geppetto?
Posted by: kraken at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (Vr12I)


They don't have to try too hard to gayify this one. Geppetophile just wanted to make a real boy. Of all the things he could make, he wanted a real boy.

Posted by: Wally at November 28, 2022 04:38 PM (FJYfm)

246 The Tolkien movie (titled Tolkien, of course) was very good.

Pretty good movie with about as much historical accuracy as Braveheart.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue surrounded by boobs and booze at November 28, 2022 04:39 PM (IIE/R)

247 i watched half of the first ep and it was too woke, too much White Man Bad, I stopped watching before they got to the monster.

Or did I...? I guess the real monster was White Man Bad.

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:39 PM (C1Zwz)

248 Birmingham Mayor’s Common-Sense Proposal: Just Regulate Guns in Cities

https://tinyurl.com/e5cjbjfc
Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 04:22 PM (U/8Mz)


====================

How about regulating criminals in Cities?

After they commit a crime, we could have a department that tracks them down and gathers evidence of their crimes, and then another department could take them to court, and convince a judge and jury to "Convict" the criminal. Then the criminal could be sequestered away from the city and the law abiding citizens for a long period of time. How about that?

Posted by: rd at November 28, 2022 04:39 PM (jSutt)

249 They don't have to try too hard to gayify this one. Geppetophile just wanted to make a real boy. Of all the things he could make, he wanted a real boy.

Wood jokes in 3..2...1...

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:40 PM (eOEVl)

250 "Just saw the new All Quiet on the Western Front. "

The adaptation of Der Weg zuruck is also good. Remarque was truly an interesting person and based those books on his own personal experience in the Imperial Army. He was later deemed to be unpatriotic by Goebbles and the Nazis, fleeing first to Switzerland and then the U.S.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 28, 2022 04:40 PM (L9/32)

251 247 i watched half of the first ep and it was too woke, too much White Man Bad, I stopped watching before they got to the monster.

Or did I...? I guess the real monster was White Man Bad.

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:39 PM (C1Zwz)

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His literal fascist antagonist in Pan's Labyrinth is more sympathetic than the Christian white American man antagonist in The Shape of Water.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:40 PM (LvTSG)

252 MeToo became a tool for female executives to get promoted.

I think that was what it always was: a way to clear out the old guard in Hollywood that cared about profits, quality writing, and pleasing customers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:36 PM (cP/Ah)

A reasonable presumption.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 28, 2022 04:40 PM (BdMk6)

253 It is not enough for a film to eschew wokeness. It must embody anti-wokeness.

Posted by: Skeptic at November 28, 2022 04:41 PM (CT9rY)

254 Geppeto had just lost his real life son and was trying to replace him with a puppet, its really sad not queer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:41 PM (cP/Ah)

255 I think actors look at reporters and think, "I could do that, if I were capable of cracking 400 on my SAT Verbal. I wear make-up. I read a script while on camera."

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"We got the bubble headed bleach blonde who comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye"

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 28, 2022 04:41 PM (+EFHY)

256 247 i watched half of the first ep and it was too woke, too much White Man Bad, I stopped watching before they got to the monster.


oh yeah the anthology eps are not that good. and quite woke especially the first one

some were good however. the one with Crispin Glover is pretty interesting.

BUT - the intro?!?! is it not very Garth Merenghi-esque!?!?

maybe it's just me lol

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:41 PM (w0NJk)

257 I good buddy of mine that sometimes wastes his hard-earned money on these films as an "associate producer" told me he just wants to see a great premise/beginning and a great ending - the middle can be filled in with crap from the movie writing pool.

Yeah, he doesn't make any money of this shit. He just pays to hang out on red carpets.

Posted by: Boswell at November 28, 2022 04:41 PM (+Cgut)

258 >>.253 It is not enough for a film to eschew wokeness. It must embody anti-wokeness.

lol

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:41 PM (C1Zwz)

259 Geppetophile just wanted to make a real boy. Of all the things he could make, he wanted a real boy.
Posted by: Wally at November 28, 2022 04:38 PM (FJYfm)

I know what this group of degenerates would make.

Posted by: Big Tittied Cat Girl Holding A Bottle of Scotch at November 28, 2022 04:41 PM (ZCxxu)

260 How about regulating criminals in Cities?

After they commit a crime, we could have a department that tracks them down and gathers evidence of their crimes, and then another department could take them to court, and convince a judge and jury to "Convict" the criminal. Then the criminal could be sequestered away from the city and the law abiding citizens for a long period of time. How about that?


Nah, it's more fun to pretend that crime doesn't exist, citizen.



Posted by: rd at November 28, 2022 04:39 PM (jSutt)

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2022 04:41 PM (gmo/4)

261
The Tolkien movie (titled Tolkien, of course) was very good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

---------------------------
Good to know. You are far more reliable as a movie critic than what internet searches or streaming service blurbs put out.

Posted by: whig at November 28, 2022 04:41 PM (bDjBG)

262 I think the only brave one was Rose McGowan. And look how they treated her until her story was proven true.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 28, 2022 04:30 PM (L9/32)


She's paid a heavy career price, too. Her IMDB filmography only has like 6 entries. Blackballed, I believe the term is.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 28, 2022 04:42 PM (JOtiF)

263 >>>BUT - the intro?!?! is it not very Garth Merenghi-esque!?!?


oh i didn't really notice, I was just looking at the cabinet model, admiring that prop

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:42 PM (C1Zwz)

264 thanks to #MeTOO, every damn NFL show has to be helmed by some insufferable "just one of the guys" broads, while the professional chucklers around her guffaw uncomfortably, as she tells them when they can speak.

Then they go toss the "ole pigskin" around in their "sneaker dress shoes and suits" while practically yelling, "HOW DO YOU DO FELLOW YOUNGSTERS?"

Posted by: Tasty Burger at November 28, 2022 04:42 PM (N/oGZ)

265 261 Good to know. You are far more reliable as a movie critic than what internet searches or streaming service blurbs put out.
Posted by: whig at November 28, 2022 04:41 PM (bDjBG)

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*considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:42 PM (LvTSG)

266 elonmusk 25m
The Twitter Files on free speech suppression soon to be published on Twitter itself. The public deserves to know what really happened ..


===

Yes! Yes it does!

Posted by: runner at November 28, 2022 04:42 PM (CJyOE)

267 >>>Geppetto had just lost his real life son and was trying to replace him with a puppet, its really sad not queer.

Not YET.

Posted by: Hollywood at November 28, 2022 04:42 PM (HmZuC)

268 oh i didn't really notice, I was just looking at the cabinet model, admiring that prop


it's probably the best thing about the show. then after Del Toro does his Garth M impression it goes into a half-assed Westworld intro rip off (I assume done by the same studio)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:43 PM (w0NJk)

269 His literal fascist antagonist in Pan's Labyrinth is more sympathetic than the Christian white American man antagonist in The Shape of Water.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:40 PM (LvTSG)

Anyone who washes his hands *before* he takes a piss is simply un-American.

Posted by: Big Tittied Cat Girl Holding A Bottle of Scotch at November 28, 2022 04:43 PM (ZCxxu)

270 You know who else based his book on his experiences in the trenches of WW1?

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (gmo/4)

271 I cant to see the new sitcoms, especially, "The George Lopez Show", all about those crazy Mexicans.
Posted by: Javems

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Did the last George Lopez sitcom even run more than a single season? It was so long ago.

Posted by: rd at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (jSutt)

272 it's probably the best thing about the show. then after Del Toro does his Garth M impression it goes into a half-assed Westworld intro rip off (I assume done by the same studio)

I started it but then got bored and turned it off. It seems I bore easily.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (eOEVl)

273 That first Kolchak tv movie us really good . Except the vampire does nothing but snarl.

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (yezA1)

274 every damn NFL show has to be helmed by some insufferable "just one of the guys" broads, while the professional chucklers around her guffaw uncomfortably, as she tells them when they can speak.

The worst part is when they try to do commentary, say something really dumb or repetitive or cliche and the other announcers uncomfortably help cover for her. I got tired of softball girl on ESPN doing baseball after about fifteen minutes.

can we go back to actual major league pitchers and catchers doing color again? At least they've suited up on a field.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (cP/Ah)

275 Stupid question, but what is the plural form of the word "index"?

Posted by: gourmand du jour, now with 50% less content at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (jTmQV)

276 In the past prestige films were The English Patient, Remains of The Day or Atonement, now they are pieces of garbage like Moonlight, The Green Book and The Help.

I thought it was sublime that Grace Randolph could not supress her hatred of Jessica Chastain for her role in The Help.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (up/3i)

277 Ace is doing a post on Kolchak, the Night Stalker?

Other than the Michigan-Ohio State game, this may be the most awesome thing I will have witnessed all year.

(Sorry if I crossed the streams of grammatical tenses there.)

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (atmen)

278 275 Stupid question, but what is the plural form of the word "index"?


indices

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (w0NJk)

279 Any time Hollywood tells me a film is "important", I always wonder "to whom?". The answer is always the same, and it's not "to me".

And yeah, I agree - journalists (few actually qualify for the title) are not heroes, as badly as most of them want us to believe they are. Ace is spot on as to why the movie is flopping.

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (3DTwf)

280 You know who else based his book on his experiences in the trenches of WW1?

Posted by: Archer


Hemingway?

Posted by: rd at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (jSutt)

281 >>>273 That first Kolchak tv movie us really good . Except the vampire does nothing but snarl.


i'm about the second. As I said, i have that post coming up on Friday.

Posted by: ace costanza at November 28, 2022 04:45 PM (C1Zwz)

282 Did the last George Lopez sitcom even run more than a single season? It was so long ago.
Posted by: rd at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (jSutt)

Yeah, it went a few.

Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2022 04:45 PM (ZCxxu)

283 She's paid a heavy career price, too. Her IMDB filmography only has like 6 entries. Blackballed, I believe the term is.

In fairness, she's a terrible actress.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 28, 2022 04:45 PM (ppBhU)

284 Hollywood mattered when it was glamorous and made you think you could look like them and get a good looking guy like them. Now it's all about ugliness so nobody wants it.

For the guys, Hollywood was about adventure but now there is nothing there for them. Goodbye and good riddance.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 28, 2022 04:45 PM (3JfbU)

285 Stupid question, but what is the plural form of the word "index"?

Posted by: gourmand du jour, now with 50% less content at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (jTmQV)

Pompous? Indices.

Real? Indexes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2022 04:45 PM (XIJ/X)

286 Indices. Thank you. I thought so.
Why I am seeing the word "indexes" in print so often now?

Posted by: gourmand du jour, now with 50% less content at November 28, 2022 04:46 PM (jTmQV)

287 >>>You know who else based his book on his experiences in the trenches of WW1?

You're going to make me blush.

Posted by: Brian Williams at November 28, 2022 04:46 PM (HmZuC)

288 Seattle could hire Antifa to patrol the streets., should work out fine

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2022 04:46 PM (xhxe8)

289 Across the board, it's a scary time for prestige films," says Jeff Bock

Jeff Beck > Jeff Bock

Wow. 277 in?

Posted by: Golfman at November 28, 2022 04:46 PM (stE6n)

290 Why I am seeing the word "indexes" in print so often now?


idiocracy

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:46 PM (w0NJk)

291 The two biggest money losers are "associate producer" of any new film production - or "associate producer" of any new Broadway play production - guaranteed. Enjoy your small talk at the opening cocktail event of some losing woke monstrosity...

Posted by: Boswell at November 28, 2022 04:46 PM (+Cgut)

292 George Lopez used to have great standup then he went full woke and stupid, kinda like where Bill Burr is heading.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:46 PM (cP/Ah)

293 every damn NFL show has to be helmed by some insufferable "just one of the guys" broads, while the professional chucklers around her guffaw uncomfortably, as she tells them when they can speak.


This occurs on all sportsball shows now. Even sportspuck shows.

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2022 04:46 PM (gmo/4)

294 #MeToo was just another empty leftist hammer to further their evil. Like masks and social distancing it applied when convenient to the cause.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 28, 2022 04:47 PM (WnIQd)

295 293 every damn NFL show has to be helmed by some insufferable "just one of the guys" broads, while the professional chucklers around her guffaw uncomfortably, as she tells them when they can speak.


this too is the story of Chris Collingsworth

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 28, 2022 04:47 PM (w0NJk)

296 *does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

To quote the ending of Some Like it Hot--"Well, nobody's perfect."

Posted by: whig at November 28, 2022 04:47 PM (bDjBG)

297
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

And fails.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 28, 2022 04:47 PM (jsTDj)

298 Lopez show did pretty well eventually dropped in the ratings and was canceled. He then blamed racism of course.

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:48 PM (yezA1)

299 The adaptation of Der Weg zuruck is also good. Remarque was truly an interesting person and based those books on his own personal experience in the Imperial Army. He was later deemed to be unpatriotic by Goebbles and the Nazis, fleeing first to Switzerland and then the U.S.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 28, 2022 04:40 PM (L9/32)

Has anyone read Johnny Got his Gun by Dalton Trumbel?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 28, 2022 04:48 PM (BdMk6)

300 I cant to see the new sitcoms, especially, "The George Lopez Show", all about those crazy Mexicans.
Posted by: Javems


Lopez hates hates hates Trump. In fact, he 'joked' that he would collect Trump's head for the Iranian bounty money.

The Secret Service took a dim view of this 'joke'.

Fuck that bozo in particular.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 28, 2022 04:48 PM (JOtiF)

301 Was “ Believe All Women” a spinoff of “ Me Too” ?

Posted by: kraken at November 28, 2022 04:48 PM (Vr12I)

302 >> The public no longer accepts "journalists" as heroes. I've always thought that Hollywood loves making movies about "journalists" because they see reporters as "the actors of publishing."


Heh, THIS.

Also, hard to laud reporters when all of the entertainment media happily covered up the open secret of Weinstein's behavior for many, many years.

Was Ronan Farrow credited at all in this film, or would that have conflicted with the obvious Grrrrrl Power theme of it?



Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2022 04:48 PM (I/doM)

303 295 293 every damn NFL show has to be helmed by some insufferable "just one of the guys" broads, while the professional chucklers around her guffaw uncomfortably, as she tells them when they can speak.


this too is the story of Chris Collingsworth
Posted by: BlackOrchid

Oh, be nice.

Posted by: Bob Costas at November 28, 2022 04:49 PM (ZtIkv)

304 293 Increasingly in play by play and color commentator roles too

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:49 PM (yezA1)

305 I haven't seen modern movies about journalists. "The Front Page" and the remake "His Girl Friday" with Cary Grant and Rosalind Russell are very good old movies. They are comedies but don't paint a very good picture of journalists on the whole.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2022 04:49 PM (vH/6k)

306 Only caught Tolkien bits twice, yet to see beginning. Looks very good

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2022 04:49 PM (xhxe8)

307 Corey Feldman was very early in yelling foul about molestation and rape in Hollywood but his problem is that he never really cared about stopping it, he was just trying to blackmail Hollywood so he could continue his lifestyle.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:49 PM (cP/Ah)

308 A movie focusing on how Weinstein blackballed Mira Sorvina would be interesting ... and provocative ... and be pro-woman ... so it probably wouldn't get made.

Of course it would have had a better chance if Paul Sorvino wacked Weinstein.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at November 28, 2022 04:49 PM (sX1BW)

309 “indexes” is for the list of words used in a book.
“indices” is for the other uses, e.g., in economics.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:49 PM (atmen)

310 EVEN THE DOG IS A RAPIST

-John Flynt

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at November 28, 2022 04:49 PM (fS+AK)

311 full woke and stupid, kinda like where Bill Burr is heading.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:46 PM (cP/Ah)


Agree. Bill Burr was once funny. Not much anymore.

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2022 04:49 PM (gmo/4)

312 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at November 28, 2022 04:42 PM (LvTSG)

"Alien: Covenant" is even better.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2022 04:49 PM (XIJ/X)

313 Pretty Woman is when it all started to go south. Average or normal girls couldn't be heroines and get the great guy, they had to be a hooker. But even then the plot had to be sanitised so that she did it for love and not the money and great shopping.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 28, 2022 04:50 PM (3JfbU)

314 273 That first Kolchak tv movie us really good . Except the vampire does nothing but snarl.
Posted by: steevy

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The vampire is a McGuffin as it is really not about vampires but a tabloid reporter stumbling across an unbelievable story and his attempts to follow it.

Posted by: whig at November 28, 2022 04:50 PM (bDjBG)

315 This past November, The Mrs and I have had to watch the Marvel movies because 4 children and one on the way. It hasn't been bad as it leaves plenty of adult time for us while we do "parental homework".

Holy Fukc, Captain Marvel is worse than descriptions I've heard and read. Worst actress and prolly worst big budget film ever. I have zero idea what the fuck was going on in that tranny poopshute of a movie.

Posted by: Nerd Locker Storage at November 28, 2022 04:50 PM (AlLT5)

316 306 Only caught Tolkien bits twice, yet to see beginning. Looks very good

this post made my tokien bits tingle

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at November 28, 2022 04:50 PM (v3pYe)

317 Why would I want to watch a movie about two "journalists" uncovering something blindingly obvious to any normal person--to wit, most of Hollywood are depraved degenerates?

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 28, 2022 04:50 PM (S7une)

318 Pretty good movie with about as much historical accuracy as Braveheart.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue surrounded by boobs and booze at November 28, 2022 04:39 PM (IIE/R)

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Wait, are you saying that William Wallace didn't father the Future King of England?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 28, 2022 04:50 PM (+EFHY)

319 315 Holy Fukc, Captain Marvel is worse than descriptions I've heard and read. Worst actress and prolly worst big budget film ever. I have zero idea what the fuck was going on in that tranny poopshute of a movie.
Posted by: Nerd Locker Storage at November 28, 2022 04:50 PM (AlLT5)

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Meh. It's better than Ant Man and the Wasp.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:51 PM (LvTSG)

320 Oh, be nice.

Posted by: Bob Costas at November 28, 2022 04:49 PM (ZtIkv)

huh?

Posted by: Booger McFarland at November 28, 2022 04:51 PM (XIJ/X)

321 NBC reports stocks closing lower and uses "indexes".
Bunch of cretins...

Posted by: gourmand du jour, now with 50% less content at November 28, 2022 04:51 PM (jTmQV)

322 EVEN THE three legged DOG IS A RAPIST

-John Flynt
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at November 28, 2022 04:49 PM (fS+AK)
........

minor addendum

Posted by: wth at November 28, 2022 04:51 PM (v0R5T)

323 Indices. Thank you. I thought so.
Why I am seeing the word "indexes" in print so often now?
Posted by: gourmand du jour, now with 50% less content

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A bunch of loosers that dont no how to spel! /sarc

Posted by: rd at November 28, 2022 04:51 PM (jSutt)

324 318 Wait, are you saying that William Wallace didn't father the Future King of England?
Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 28, 2022 04:50 PM (+EFHY)

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Wait...there was a bridge present at the Battle of Sterling Bridge?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:51 PM (LvTSG)

325 Wait, are you saying that William Wallace didn't father the Future King of England?
Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 28, 2022 04:50 PM (+EFHY)

Don't tell me that Longshanks throwing that twink out of the window was made up. Lie to me if you have too.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 28, 2022 04:51 PM (Y5qcH)

326 Pretty Woman is when it all started to go south.

I loved the post I saw where someone worked out the math, and she'd have earned more per hour than she did hanging out with this tool for a week for a lump sum.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:51 PM (cP/Ah)

327 every damn NFL show has to be helmed by some insufferable "just one of the guys" broads, while the professional chucklers around her guffaw uncomfortably, as she tells them when they can speak.
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what if they dressed like Mexican weathergirls?

Posted by: Harvey W. at November 28, 2022 04:51 PM (fs1hN)

328 This past November, The Mrs and I have had to watch the Marvel movies because 4 children and one on the way.
___

Had to?

Did the kids force you to?

Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 04:52 PM (U/8Mz)

329 Wait, are you saying that William Wallace didn't father the Future King of England?

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Crap, blew an opportunity to use the pun "sired" there ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 28, 2022 04:52 PM (+EFHY)

330 TLDR
The subject is not worth ACE's time to analyze or our time to comprehend.

Just ignore the trolls.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at November 28, 2022 04:52 PM (tA1/w)

331 Mira Sorvino was quite the hottie back in the day, IIRC.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:52 PM (atmen)

332 I would like to see a Peter Pan directed by Werner Hertzog.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 28, 2022 04:52 PM (yQpMk)

333 How about we don't care what happened to awful people doing awful things for money as a reason it's failing?

Everyone knows that everyone knew and no one cared until they saw a chance to smear Trump.

Then, they pretended to be outraged at powerful men obtaining sexual favors from women in exchange for career advancement.
But, they didn't really care. Because they all acted like Weinstien was the only one.

We prosecuted the Nazi prison guards but pretend Epstien and Maxwell were the only ones involved....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 28, 2022 04:52 PM (Su/C7)

334 Holy Fukc, Captain Marvel is worse than descriptions I've heard and read. Worst actress and prolly worst big budget film ever. I have zero idea what the fuck was going on in that tranny poopshute of a movie.
Posted by: Nerd Locker Storage at November 28, 2022 04:50 PM (AlLT5)
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I watched all of the Marvel movies in chronological order prior to Avengers: Endgame. Captain Marvel is the only movie I rented rather than purchase on DVD/Blu-Ray because it was just that bad...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 28, 2022 04:52 PM (YIVH2)

335 I turned off the NFL over the weekend at another persons house to watch a movie called Danger Close, about the ANZAC battle in Vietnam at Long Tan. At first I was called a bunch of names, but after the movie they were glad we watched it.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 28, 2022 04:53 PM (L9/32)

336 314 I know but it detracts from the story imo. Just give him a bit more characterization

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:53 PM (yezA1)

337 Re journalists as heroes--I won't watch any TV show or movie that portrays lawyers, politicians, or journalists as heroes/the-good-guys. Fuck that noise...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 28, 2022 04:53 PM (S7une)

338 Speaking of promoting certain professions held in broad disdain...anyone notice how many FBI-as-Heroes shows there are? I believe there's a reason for that.

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 28, 2022 04:53 PM (3DTwf)

339 Don't tell me that Longshanks throwing that twink out of the window was made up. Lie to me if you have too.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 28, 2022 04:51 PM (Y5qcH)

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LOL.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 28, 2022 04:53 PM (+EFHY)

340 Test

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 28, 2022 04:53 PM (rl2lu)

341 Don't tell me that Longshanks throwing that twink out of the window was made up. Lie to me if you have too.

I want to believe (tm)

It's better than Ant Man and the Wasp.

That movie at least had some neat visuals with the use of shrinking tech, but yeah. The first was just fun and likable, the second was a mess, it was one of the first MCU movies where it wasn't about the story or characters, it was about setting up the BIG STORY later on. And Ant Man was a sidekick in his own movie.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:54 PM (cP/Ah)

342 It seems I bore easily.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 28, 2022 04:44 PM (eOEVl)


Just like an Ikea drill!

Posted by: spindrift at November 28, 2022 04:54 PM (h5TKJ)

343 The public now sees the problem when "It's so brave to be gay" movies are everywhere, when it isn't brave at all.

It's brave to say "I don't like gays." Say that and watch your livelihood disappear.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 28, 2022 04:54 PM (rl2lu)

344 341 That movie at least had some neat visuals with the use of shrinking tech, but yeah. The first was just fun and likable, the second was a mess, it was one of the first MCU movies where it wasn't about the story or characters, it was about setting up the BIG STORY later on. And Ant Man was a sidekick in his own movie.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:54 PM (cP/Ah)

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It's three movies in one, and they all suck.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:55 PM (LvTSG)

345 Saw George Lopez show promo. His shirt was buttoned at the neck and his head looked like an enormous balloon. Fascinating that someone's noggin can get to be so large.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 28, 2022 04:55 PM (fs1hN)

346 313 Pretty Woman is when it all started to go south. Average or normal girls couldn't be heroines and get the great guy, they had to be a hooker. But even then the plot had to be sanitised so that she did it for love and not the money and great shopping.
Posted by: President Select Decaf
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Well, the modern version will have a future Julia Roberts type role as having an Only Fans website. A few years later Only Fans work will probably be on Hallmark as a storyline as it is now actively pursuing the YOLO corporation path blazoned by Disney.

Posted by: whig at November 28, 2022 04:55 PM (bDjBG)

347 Mira Sorvino was quite the hottie back in the day, IIRC.

Yeah she really was. Not much of an actress but easy on the eyes, which is surprising given her parents.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:55 PM (cP/Ah)

348 I would like to see a Peter Pan directed by Werner Hertzog.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 28, 2022 04:52 PM (yQpMk)

Never Never Land is the place Wendy goes to in her mind while being raped by a drug addicted vagrant named Peter.

Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2022 04:55 PM (ZCxxu)

349 Variety manages, however unwittingly, to identify the movie's problem at the very beginning of its article: it features a "pair of crusading New York Times journalists." 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Super Genius at November 28, 2022 04:55 PM (ZOUg2)

350 It's three movies in one, and they all suck.

Wait for Quantumania where its Ant Man... and FOUR other better, stronger, smarter women, and probably Pym dies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:56 PM (cP/Ah)

351 Have they made a live-action Johnny Quest movie yet?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:56 PM (atmen)

352 Clint Eastwood almost made a Werner Herzog movie in White Hunter Black Heart.

That ending is right out of a Herzog movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:56 PM (LvTSG)

353 Never Never Land is the place Wendy goes to in her mind while being raped by a drug addicted vagrant named Peter.
Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2022 04:55 PM (ZCxxu)
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oddly, that sums up the plot of both Sucker Punch and American McGee's Alice: Madness Returns...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 28, 2022 04:56 PM (YIVH2)

354 Test
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 28, 2022 04:53 PM (rl2lu)

Sorry, you failed. You must now repeat junior high *and* high school.

Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2022 04:57 PM (ZCxxu)

355 *considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood

We need the trilogy we were promised. Alien Covenant was great even as a 2nd, and we need a 3rd after that ending with David doing the ole switcheroo. I want the 3rd Prometheus/Aliens on earth for the 3rd.

Posted by: Nerd Locker Storage at November 28, 2022 04:57 PM (AlLT5)

356 I think Sucker Punch is a deep dive into the horrific swamp that is Zach Snyder's soul.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:57 PM (cP/Ah)

357 350 It's three movies in one, and they all suck.

Wait for Quantumania where its Ant Man... and FOUR other better, stronger, smarter women, and probably Pym dies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:56 PM (cP/Ah)

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I have had little to no interest in the MCU for a while, but I, of course, checked out the trailer. "Strange new world!" And they're going to what essentially looks like futuristic Earth again?

Whatever. The promise of the craziness of Phase 4 is a joke.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:57 PM (LvTSG)

358 It's brave to say "I don't like gays." Say that and watch your livelihood disappear.
_____

Is it ok if you say, "I don't mind gays, but the whole butt sex thing is absolutely disgusting"

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 28, 2022 04:57 PM (fs1hN)

359 Whitehouse responds to China crackdown
Rumble link
https://rumble.com/v1xpi4y-johnxirby.html
(it's a funny)

Posted by: Fool Otto at November 28, 2022 04:58 PM (DB16e)

360 Never Never Land is the place Wendy goes to in her mind while being raped by a drug addicted vagrant named Peter.
Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2022 04:55 PM (ZCxxu)
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oddly, that sums up the plot of both Sucker Punch and American McGee's Alice: Madness Returns...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 28, 2022 04:56 PM (YIVH2)


And Pan's Labyrinth.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 28, 2022 04:58 PM (AiZBA)

361 352 Have you seen Ace in the Hole? Great but depressing movie.

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:58 PM (yezA1)

362 Variety manages, however unwittingly, to identify the movie's problem at the very beginning of its article: it features a "pair of crusading New York Times journalists." 'Nuff said.

Right. A Weinstein movie would work a lot better if it was actually about Weinstein and Hollywood. Making it about the urinalists feels like they're doing a character swap on a Watergate movie.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 28, 2022 04:58 PM (ZGrMX)

363 355 We need the trilogy we were promised. Alien Covenant was great even as a 2nd, and we need a 3rd after that ending with David doing the ole switcheroo. I want the 3rd Prometheus/Aliens on earth for the 3rd.
Posted by: Nerd Locker Storage at November 28, 2022 04:57 PM (AlLT5)

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I do too. David was such a fantastic bad guy.

Oh well. Disney is resquelbooting the whole franchise.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 04:58 PM (LvTSG)

364 >>>I want to know the complete Weinstein story - the women who DID welcome his advances and got favorable treatment as a result of it.
Posted by: Wally

That was to be the "She Said" sequel, "Pound Me Too".

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 28, 2022 04:59 PM (F3gjz)

365 I clapped when Jussie Smollett got Alien-et in Covenant. Was that wrong?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 28, 2022 04:59 PM (PiwSw)

366 Dear Heavenly Father,

Thank you for my husband, who has ZERO interest in comic book movies, or movies in general.

Amen.

Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 04:59 PM (U/8Mz)

367 Oh well. Disney is resquelbooting the whole franchise.

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So short Disney? Is it too late?

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at November 28, 2022 04:59 PM (sX1BW)

368 Way off topic and more 2 posts ago... but if Trump is so unelectable and the GOP can't get anyone to beat him, why is that the primary voters problem and not the GOP's problem?
They have openly disdained their voters for what? 20 years now? (I said openly)

Why are they surprised at a credibility problem?
If I were a Republican strategist that was into winning as much as grifting, I'd have the Mcs play ball and actually spend two years doing real things the base wants... the real base, and get "more electable" candidates also fighting the fights.
Then there is a real possibility to take Trump out due to baggage.
Right now they stand for nothing and tell the base to eat shit sammiches.
Of course a huge portion of that base is going to side with the guy that at least pretends to care.
Idiots.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 28, 2022 05:00 PM (53oGX)

369 It doesn't matter how good the movie is, how good the acting is, etc etc. I don't care about the subject matter. I don't care. I'll never watch. It doesn't matter if it's a fair and even-handed examination or a hatchet job; either way, the subject matter isn't something I want to spend money to watch a two-hour story about, under any circumstances.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at November 28, 2022 05:00 PM (31l4A)

370 354 Sorry, you failed. You must now repeat junior high *and* high school.
Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2022 04:57 PM (ZCxxu)

And you can't graduate until you've exterminated and eaten another student.

Posted by: XTC at November 28, 2022 05:00 PM (UnA8+)

371 361 352 Have you seen Ace in the Hole? Great but depressing movie.
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 04:58 PM (yezA1)

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The movie made as his break from his first major writing partner Charles Brackett.

It was a horrible failure financially (the studio ended up re-releasing it under the title The Big Circus and still made no money), but it's one of my favorite Wilder movies.

Absolutely uncompromising in its vision of a corrupt press, the sheep who let themselves be manipulated by it, and the victims at the center of it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 05:00 PM (LvTSG)

372 "but if Trump is so unelectable and the GOP can't get anyone to beat him, why is that the primary voters problem and not the GOP's problem?"


What if they don't want to win?

Posted by: fd at November 28, 2022 05:01 PM (sn5EN)

373 >>I want to know the complete Weinstein story - the women who DID welcome his advances and got favorable treatment as a result of it.

Heh, that would be no one, the same as how we're supposed to slide past who Epstein and Maxwell pimped to.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2022 05:01 PM (I/doM)

374
Harvey Weinstein is a monster, but the #MeToo movement that he spawned went far too far and became, itself, a monster.

__________

That is, it showed how horrible men in left-wing organizations were, mouthing progressive principles to get into a woman's pants.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 28, 2022 05:01 PM (MoZTd)

375 I clapped when Jussie Smollett got Alien-et in Covenant. Was that wrong?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 28, 2022 04:59 PM (PiwSw)

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* Spoiler Alert *

The highlight of The Joker for me was DeNiro getting brains blown out. I wish I had been in a theater, where I would have done a big victory dance up and down the aisles ... and ending it by spiking my popcorn and soda.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 28, 2022 05:02 PM (+EFHY)

376 I want to know the complete Weinstein story - the women who DID welcome his advances and got favorable treatment as a result of it.

-------------

The Ashley Judd story?

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at November 28, 2022 05:02 PM (sX1BW)

377 Wait for Quantumania where its Ant Man... and FOUR other better, stronger, smarter women, and probably Pym dies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 04:56 PM (cP/Ah)


This one will be even worse about The Set Up. It's all about introducing Kang, so he can be the next Big Baddy in what will essentially be Infinity War 2.

Posted by: Wally at November 28, 2022 05:02 PM (FJYfm)

378 371 I'm sure the depressing ending hurt it at the box office. Like Will Penny....

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 05:02 PM (yezA1)

379 Sorry, but changing the channel at another person's home is an asshole move.

Posted by: Bob Costas at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (VDe78)

380 I clapped when Jussie Smollett got Alien-et in Covenant. Was that wrong?

Scene would have doubled in value if the Xeno was carrying a Subway sandwich and wearing a MAGA Hat.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue surrounded by boobs and booze at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (IIE/R)

381 I've seen All the Presidents Men.

That's enough movies about journalism for me for a lifetime.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (5xURv)

382 I want to know the complete Weinstein story - the women who DID welcome his advances and got favorable treatment as a result of it.

So, basically, Meryl Streep, who inexplicably was in a ton of Oscar bait movies in the early 2000s? (It was inexplicable until it came out that she was banging Weinstein, anyway).

Posted by: Ian S. at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (ZGrMX)

383 372 "but if Trump is so unelectable and the GOP can't get anyone to beat him, why is that the primary voters problem and not the GOP's problem?"


What if they don't want to win?
Posted by: fd at November 28, 2022 05:01 PM (sn5EN)

Valid, and if true that is a perfect time to dissolve the party.
Well, perfect time would have been Dec 2020... but that was wen we had to read 100 commentaries on why a third party is bad, go Team GOP! Most written on the same day... by coincidence of course.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (53oGX)

384 Take "She Said," a sturdily made look at the pair of crusading New York Times journalists who helped expose Harvey Weinstein's decades of sexual harassment and assault.


Does the film have a plot? What is it? Two people doing their assigned jobs? Movies showing people doing their work-a-day jobs, in this case interviewing people and writing newspaper stories, are called documentaries. Documentaries are not big box-office money makers.

Posted by: Gref at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (AMIL/)

385 I wish someone would explain to me why public opinion polling on issues and institutions all weighs so heavily against the Democrats, yet the public favors them in most elections.

Are polls that useless? Are elections that fraudulent? Or is there that much disconnect between the public perception of them as a party and the public's opinion of their actions, constituencies, and policies?

Posted by: SMFH at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (CEh/e)

386 378 371 I'm sure the depressing ending hurt it at the box office. Like Will Penny....
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 05:02 PM (yezA1)

==========

Mass audiences don't like to leave a theater feeling bad.

It's just kind of a thing. They can feel sad, but not bad. They'll largely reject that experience.

There's a reason Wilder made feel-good stuff for a decade after that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (LvTSG)

387 Ooof. Sock off

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (VDe78)

388 353 Never Never Land is the place Wendy goes to in her mind while being raped by a drug addicted vagrant named Peter.
Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2022 04:55 PM (ZCxxu)
---
oddly, that sums up the plot of both Sucker Punch and American McGee's Alice: Madness Returns...


as well as the place sam lowry goes while being interrogated in brazil. it's not clear whether he departs quickly enough to save his credit rating.

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (v3pYe)

389 We wuz Kangs

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (yezA1)

390 That is, it showed how horrible men in left-wing organizations were, mouthing progressive principles to get into a woman's pants.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 28, 2022 05:01 PM (MoZTd)

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* And an idea was born in the head of Sham Bankman-Fraud ... *

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (+EFHY)

391 Gee, I wonder what could be the problem??

Posted by: Top Gun Maverick at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (4I/2K)

392 Are polls that useless? Are elections that fraudulent?
___

Yes.

Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (U/8Mz)

393 "So maybe the public just finds the concept of the Hero Reporter to be a science-fantasy premise they can no longer suspend their collective disbelief for."

Well said, Ace!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (AAm6o)

394 >> I want to know the complete Weinstein story - the women who DID welcome his advances and got favorable treatment as a result of it.


Best guess is any women who appeared in more than one Weinstein movie, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (I/doM)

395 Peter Pan Directed by Martin Scorsese.

Peter and his lost boys crew, loan sharking, gambling, robbing Lufthansa.


Wait. Wasn't that Goodfella's?

Posted by: Archer at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (gmo/4)

396 I can think of another reason it bombed: nobody cares about what cocks some bimbo had to suck to get paid millions of dollars as a movie star. Most people might think they didn’t suck enough to get their underserved fame and fortune.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (kqDGr)

397 381 I've seen All the Presidents Men.

That's enough movies about journalism for me for a lifetime.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (5xURv)


Absence of Malice.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (PiwSw)

398 It was inexplicable until it came out that she was banging Weinstein, anyway

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Would she get into character when doing so?

I wonder which character was his favorite.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (sX1BW)

399 This one will be even worse about The Set Up. It's all about introducing Kang, so he can be the next Big Baddy in what will essentially be Infinity War 2.

Yeah, Kang. I mean... I guess yes he's a major Avengers villain, but he's always been lame. Even the terrific Earth's Mightiest Heroes animated series couldn't make him interesting. He's just a dude from the future, there's nothing exciting or great about him.

I have been a comics fan since the 70s, I mean, we sold them all but my brother and I collected over 30 long boxes of comics. No matter who wrote him or what the story was, or how they adjusted it, Kang is just yawn.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 05:05 PM (cP/Ah)

400 Have they made a live-action Johnny Quest movie yet?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 28, 2022 04:56 PM (atmen)


Starring Mike Pence as Race Bannon.

Posted by: rd at November 28, 2022 05:05 PM (jSutt)

401 394 Best guess is any women who appeared in more than one Weinstein movie, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (I/doM)

=========

Remember, Jennifer Lawrence called her nude picture leaks sexual assault, but she has never said anything bad about Harvey Weinstein.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 05:05 PM (LvTSG)

402 I've seen All the Presidents Men.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (5xURv)

The whole thing?

I'm impressed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2022 05:05 PM (XIJ/X)

403 Meh. It's better than Ant Man and the Wasp.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood

Dawg, Captain Marvel was the absolute worse movie I've ever seen. Nothing made sense. It was a bunch of random clips thrown together like a monkey flinging poo. And my goodness, that boy Brie Bonkers acted like she had to take a shit and was holding it back in every scene. Like take a dump, Brie, maybe do some poppers idk.

And for the record I hated Ant-Man and the sequel. The realism of a non violent white felon trying to get a job so he could see his kid (illegal btw), was one of the many Anti-Male themes in both films. Basically Ant-Man is a cuck.

Posted by: Nerd Locker Storage at November 28, 2022 05:05 PM (AlLT5)

404 @377

>>This one will be even worse about The Set Up. It's all about introducing Kang, so he can be the next Big Baddy in what will essentially be Infinity War 2.

See, I thought they would go cosmic and get all Jack Kirby on us and make Galactus the next big bad enemy.

I mean Kang?

Why not a fully blown out Kree/Skrull war?

And I know they are going to do the Secret Wars but something tells me they are going to F**k it all up with nonsense.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 28, 2022 05:05 PM (up/3i)

405 nood

Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2022 05:06 PM (U/8Mz)

406 Never Never Land is the place Wendy goes to in her mind while being raped by a drug addicted vagrant named Peter.

That's my dad!

Posted by: Hunter Biden at November 28, 2022 05:06 PM (ESjRY)

407 >> That is, it showed how horrible men in left-wing organizations were, mouthing progressive principles to get into a woman's pants.

Yes. And there was/is something so offputting about Hollywood making a self-congratulatory movie about a Hollywood dude who was allowed to sexually abuse Hollywood people for a few decades -- like, you want adulation for finally cleaning your own house?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2022 05:06 PM (I/doM)

408 I want to know the complete Weinstein story - the women who DID welcome his advances and got favorable treatment as a result of it.

-------------

The Ashley Judd story?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at November 28, 2022 05:02 PM (sX1BW)


She's always been one I've suspected of that. Sin City and Spy Kids have some suspects in them as well.

Posted by: Wally at November 28, 2022 05:06 PM (FJYfm)

409 Did you see what they did with the Skrull? Innocent illegal aliens...

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 05:06 PM (yezA1)

410 Would she get into character when doing so?

I wonder which character was his favorite.
Posted by: SH

Using Method Acting?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 28, 2022 05:07 PM (jsTDj)

411 The whole thing?

I'm impressed.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 28, 2022 05:05 PM (XIJ/X)

I was hoping the CIA was gonna smoke both of them. Am disappoint.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 28, 2022 05:07 PM (5xURv)

412 What was "uncovered" it was well known for decades right? Publicized maybe.
Posted by: steevy

Growing up in Southern CA it was widely known that Weinstein and his brother were creeps and pervs and used their industry power to get whatever they wanted. I knew that and was in no way connected to the industry. This was widely known but his power in the industry made the monster that he was tolerable.

Gavin Newsome's wife will testify in the LA trial as Doe #4 as she has alleged that Weinstein raped her and there was forced oral copulation between 2004 & 2005. The defense attorney brought up friendly emails that she sent Weinstein after the initial rape. She said that she was just trying to survive as a young actress. As horrible as he was, they tolerated it until it was finally spoken out loud by crazy-pants Rose McGowen and Ashley Judd.

Posted by: Cheri at November 28, 2022 05:07 PM (oiNtH)

413 Remember, Jennifer Lawrence called her nude picture leaks sexual assault, but she has never said anything bad about Harvey Weinstein.

IRC the story with Paltrow is that she let Weinstein pleasure *her* while stroking his own fish monster. I'd guess Lawrence was the same?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 28, 2022 05:08 PM (ESjRY)

414 Harvey Weinstein did a great amount of damage to 20 or so women

And several hundred more women quietly put up with Harvey, figuring that that was just the price of success in Hollywood.

Harvey couldn't have functioned without the whole system being complicit.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 28, 2022 05:08 PM (KCOCK)

415
One by one, this year's crop of Oscar contenders have flopped or, at best, under-performed.



Because audiences have realized that "Oscar contender" films aren't made for the people paying for a seat in the theater, they're made for other filmmakers as fodder for bragging rights.

These films will keep tanking until the filmmakers go back to balancing their Oscar aspirations with pleasing the crowds who actually shell out money. The Oscar-bait films that become successful will generally nod towards that balance.

I'm reminded of screenwriter William Goldman's observation that art films are without exception pretentious, unwatchable dreck, while the best studio/popular films easily stand as art.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 28, 2022 05:08 PM (n+4am)

416 See, I thought they would go cosmic and get all Jack Kirby on us and make Galactus the next big bad enemy.

They originally said that Phase 4 was going to be all about cosmic, then changed directions and claimed it was about the multiverse, which sucks every time someone tries it anyway.

You do Starlin's wild and freaky cosmic stuff from the 70s and I'll sign on, but this? Its just awful. And you've either killed or ruined every single great character that BUILT YOUR FRANCHISE.

its like doing a James Bond film and making it about the Bond Girls, with James dying in Moonraker.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 05:08 PM (cP/Ah)

417 379 Sorry, but changing the channel at another person's home is an asshole move.
Posted by: Bob Costas
_______

Oh yea, sorry about that Bob. I didn't realize you were watching yourself. By the way, thanks for having us over, we had a great time, right up until you ripped the remote from my grandson's hand.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 28, 2022 05:09 PM (fs1hN)

418 >> I want to know the complete Weinstein story - the women who DID welcome his advances and got favorable treatment as a result of it.


Best guess is any women who appeared in more than one Weinstein movie, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (I/doM)

#MeToo was destined to accomplish jack shit unless they named and shamed the women who put out and got paid. I mean, they're just enabling the system.

Look at it like this...women who *ahem* "collaborated" with Nazi occupiers all got shamed. Heads were shorn, among other things.

Posted by: Robert at November 28, 2022 05:09 PM (GRhko)

419 I wish someone would explain to me why public opinion polling on issues and institutions all weighs so heavily against the Democrats, yet the public favors them in most elections.

Are polls that useless? Are elections that fraudulent? Or is there that much disconnect between the public perception of them as a party and the public's opinion of their actions, constituencies, and policies?

Posted by: SMFH at November 28, 2022 05:03 PM (CEh/e)
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Yeah, good question.

Supposedly 80% say the country is heading in the wrong direction, yet supposedly nearly 50% vote for MOAR Gooder & Harder?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 28, 2022 05:09 PM (+EFHY)

420 Last Oscar winner I watched was Birdman in 2014. It was entertaining.

The last REALLY good oscar winner was LotR in 2003.

That's a lot of misses in 20 some years

Posted by: 18-1 at November 28, 2022 05:10 PM (ESjRY)

421
OK, c'mon... who *ever* saw journalists as "heroes?"

Guttenberg invented the press. Then everyone realized journalists are pieces of shit who deserve to be thrown into a pit full of Rape Dogs, approximately 5 seconds later.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 28, 2022 05:10 PM (oINRc)

422 I do too. David was such a fantastic bad guy.

Oh well. Disney is resquelbooting the whole franchise.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood

Underrated bad guy.
And Disney has bought the rights and are rebooting it. Fahq me.

Posted by: Nerd Locker Storage at November 28, 2022 05:11 PM (AlLT5)

423 422 Underrated bad guy.
And Disney has bought the rights and are rebooting it. Fahq me.

Posted by: Nerd Locker Storage at November 28, 2022 05:11 PM (AlLT5)

========

Well, Disney bought Fox. It was in the news.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 28, 2022 05:11 PM (LvTSG)

424 @416

>>it was about the multiverse, which sucks every time someone tries it anyway.

See, I think the multi-verse bullsh*t is a device that let's them deviate from canon and allows wide latitude to recover from bad scripts and be able to write around plot holes.

I mean, there is so much material that could be mined from Marvel's catalog and all we get is pretty weak tea.

Sad.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 28, 2022 05:11 PM (up/3i)

425 "She said" = woke shit.

Sorry, but it's the title of the film that is the problem. If it had been titled "the Trouble with Harvey" or "Bully Boy" it would have done better.

"Because audiences have realized that "Oscar contender" films aren't made for the people paying for a seat in the theater, they're made for other filmmakers as fodder for bragging rights."

dead on correct - you want your prestige product, have at it. Just don't expect me to enjoy it.

Posted by: Inspector kemp at November 28, 2022 05:13 PM (+DS2f)

426 Are polls that useless? Are elections that fraudulent? Or is there that much disconnect between the public perception of them as a party and the public's opinion of their actions, constituencies, and policies?


its a mix.

Trump won in 2020...but Biden still got something like 60m real votes.

So when the public disagrees with just about everything the left does why do they vote for them?

Vanilla LIVs have no idea what the policies of the people they vote for are. They vote for "change" by voting for "the other guy" which is...sometimes the guy doing the things they don't like.

Left leaning LIVs want a check. They might not like what the left is doing but if they think the Left is going to pay them they will vote D.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 28, 2022 05:13 PM (ESjRY)

427 Best guess is any women who appeared in more than one Weinstein movie, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2022 05:04 PM (I/doM)

You got that right. Meryl Streep first and foremost.

I mean, you want to discuss these issues, then by all means, let's DISCUSS them.

Posted by: Inspector kemp at November 28, 2022 05:16 PM (+DS2f)

428 Alternate universes and time travel are props for dumb writers

Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2022 05:16 PM (yezA1)

429 'Prestige films' are those Hollywood hopes will make the normies ashamed of being, well, normal. While picking their pockets, of course.

Posted by: aelfheld at November 28, 2022 05:21 PM (Zy9Yy)

430 "I have been a comics fan since the 70s, I mean, we sold them all but my brother and I collected over 30 long boxes of comics. No matter who wrote him or what the story was, or how they adjusted it, Kang is just yawn."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 28, 2022 05:05 PM (cP/Ah)

Yeah, Kang. I used to see his stupid mug on an Avengers comic and say, "oh well". I'd still buy it. But most of the time...bleh. They did some neat stuff with the council of Kangs at one point. Then the Kangiest Kang of them all killed all the rest, and we were back to "I am Kang, from the future, and I have come to conquer the Earth!"

Posted by: Inspector kemp at November 28, 2022 05:22 PM (+DS2f)

431 "I'm skilled in the art of war, and military tactWUHHHHHHHHHH UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"

Posted by: Tasty Burger at November 28, 2022 05:35 PM (N/oGZ)

432 It appears that the Karen brigades are over. Ovah,
I say

Posted by: Linda Sina at November 28, 2022 05:40 PM (Yrvb3)

433 103 Read one review that while Hollywood was finally admitting that weinstein was a monster, none of the thousands who enabled him were implicated or criticized in the movie. If it were an indictment of the whole industry it might sell, but the industry protects its own ergo box office bomb
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2022 04:20 PM (W1h4/)

^^That's my take as well. PLUS all those pictures of politicians with Harvey. Democrat Politicians consorting with a sexual predator. Now there's a story.

Posted by: Iris at November 28, 2022 05:40 PM (foa6+)

434 @431. “Splat”. Mu haha

Posted by: Linda Sina at November 28, 2022 05:41 PM (Yrvb3)

435 If Hollywood burned to the ground tomorrow, I'd get drunk for a week, sober up and then get drunk for another month.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 28, 2022 05:42 PM (TU8Tj)

436 A Hollywood movie about Harvey Weinstein? Tell me, who played Jennifer Lawrence? Who played Oprah? Who played Hillary?

If the answer is that no one played them, because the movie didn't cover that, then it's not hard to see the problem.

Posted by: Splunge at November 28, 2022 05:47 PM (2Nn0L)

437 `The death of the prestige film? You know who did prestige fillms? Hit—arvy Weinstein.

Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 28, 2022 05:50 PM (hKVWr)

438 262 I think the only brave one was Rose McGowan. And look how they treated her until her story was proven true.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 28, 2022 04:30 PM (L9/32)

She's paid a heavy career price, too. Her IMDB filmography only has like 6 entries. Blackballed, I believe the term is.
Posted by: GnuBreed



Though she was right all along, she's a bit of a lunatic. Not entirely her fault. Her parents were involved in some weird cult. Then she goes to Hollywood. She's never had normal, ever. If feel sorry for her.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 28, 2022 05:50 PM (sAmhv)

439 Thats not all a Disney Film Strange World is Bombing Big Time

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at November 28, 2022 06:06 PM (wGqjj)

440 #metoo ended the day Biden won the nomination

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33 I get all of the reasons for this film's failure, but nobody seems to have mentioned what to me is the biggest one: Who gives a shit about the entire thing?

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Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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