Liberal RINO Corporate Gimp Asa Hutchinson Threatens Delusionary Vanity Run for President;<br>Reached for Comment, "Beto" O'Rourke Says, "<i>That</i> Limpdick? LOL Get F***ed"<br>Plus: Shut the Fuck Up, National Review

Liberal RINO Corporate Gimp Asa Hutchinson Threatens Delusionary Vanity Run for President;
Reached for Comment, "Beto" O'Rourke Says, "That Limpdick? LOL Get F***ed"
Plus: Shut the Fuck Up, National Review

"What, was there no Walmart board seat available?"

Jeff Zeleny
@jeffzeleny
On @CNNThisMorning, Arkansas Gov. @AsaHutchinson says he'll decide on a 2024 run by January. He said a big field won't be like 2016, telling @kaitlancollins: "People understand who Donald Trump is today... He's a known quantity now. We know the chaos that comes with him."

Note he made this announcement on Don LeMon's Morning Show -- you know, Where Conservatives Go to Wake Up.

Bonchie at RedState reacts to this non-event which has not shaken up DC:

Hopefully, Hutchinson's decision is that he's going to be taking that board seat with Wal-Mart he's been seeking over the last few years. Unfortunately, I doubt that's going to be the direction he goes. Vanity campaigns have become all the rage, and there's a lot of money to be made making a pointless presidential run that never garners over two percent in the polls.
Still, if the point here is to get rid of Trump, I couldn't think of a worse strategy. The former president relies on having foils to galvanize his base of support. That's why Ron DeSantis choosing not to engage him this early has been smart. The moment someone like Hutchinson jumps in the race (or Larry Hogan, Tim Scott, etc.), Trump immediately has his enemy to play off of.
And while there are growing numbers of Republicans who want to go a different direction in 2024 for practical reasons (i.e. they want to win), some can be won back over if the alternative is a guy who couldn't even stand up against the transgender lobby in Arkansas. In fact, a Hutchinson run is so asinine that Trump should be made to count it as an in-kind contribution.

This goes for all the NeverTrumpers who have, with their typical obsessiveness, gone into Swarm Mode on Trump. The New York Post ran a front-page attack on Trump the day after the election. Was it written by Victor Davis Hanson, a long-time Trump supporter who was cooling on Trump, whose words might have some actual sway with Trump voters?

No, of course not. It was written by liberal neocon grifter and movie reviewing pussy and longtime NeverTrumper Jon Podhoretz, who has been writing the same "essay" for the past seven fucking years.

There was, in fact, a coordinated pressure campaign mounted by all the Murdoch properties which started the day after the election. The Wall Street Journal, the New York Post, and Fox News all began pushing the "Dump Trump" line.

Conservative, Inc. grifter media like Commentary, the Washington Examiner, and National Review joined in because, well, they're naturally followers and they've always been hardcore anti-Trump anyway. They're all pretty cowardly and don't really like being the first to throw a punch. But if someone's being mobbed up on, they're run over to throw a sneak kick into the ribs.

That doesn't mean that people who actually supported Trump weren't also de-boarding the Trump Train. They -- we -- were. I was tired of all the losing, and tired of Everything Always Being All About Trump. And I was really bothered by everything always being at the very lowest gutter level ("I know things about Ron DeSantis that his wife doesn't know").

But absolutely, NeverTrump executed a coordinated pressure campaign to pressure everyone into dumping Trump.

And when they started doing this-- I felt my support for Trump increasing.

And I don't like Trump at this point!

But I hate them more. And when I see these people -- the people I supported Trump to vanquish -- start taking their victory laps and dancing on Trump's political grave, I start thinking, "Maybe we have to nominate Trump again because apparently you assholes didn't get the lesson after the first two black eyes."

But they can't shut the fuck up. They think they're smart -- in fact, they're among the dullest, middest wits in the world. They have been supported by a #Rigged system of favor-banking and patronage, and even so, have managed to claw their way up right to just below the middle.

They think they're "serious," and attack Trump for being on Twitter constantly and "owning the libs." And yet they themselves never get the fuck off Twitter and are constantly on that platform Owning the Cons.

"Empty lives," the guy who is literally on twitter at all hours of the day and night, spitting hatred and engaging in absurd braggartry, accuses others of having.

By the way: If you self-identify as a "conservative," but you think Owning the Cons is jolly good sport while Owning the Libs is just bad manners, I've got news for you.

Although I think DeSantis is a better candidate than Trump, I'm not pushing it. This isn't just because I don't want to pick a fight, although I also don't want to pick a fight.

It's also because I know that strong-willed people do not yield to pressure.

And right now, the NeverTrumpers and Corporate Media -- including the Conservative, Inc. Corporate Media -- are engaging in a flood-the-zone pressure campaign to pressure people to abandon Trump.

These people are fucking stupid.

If Trump voters were susceptible to that kind of pressure tactic, that kind of hardcore social terrorism, they wouldn't be Trump voters in the first place.

They would have been pressured to stop supporting him in March of 2015, when the whole world screamed "you can't support this racist" at them.

Or when the "pussy tape" was leaked, and the whole world screamed "you can't support this rapist" at them.

Or when Hillary Clinton's Russiagate Op was launched in 2017, when the whole world screamed "you can't support this Russian agent" at them.

Etc., etc., etc.

Oh, but they're going to bend to This Year's Model of the "You Can't Support This _____" pressure campaign, eh?

Hey Mid-Wit NeverTrumpers who think you're smart but don't know jack-shit -- let me introduce you to a very basic psychological concept you've obviously never heard of.

Reactance (psychology)

Reactance is an unpleasant motivational reaction to offers, persons, rules, or regulations that threaten or eliminate specific behavioral freedoms.< Reactance occurs when an individual feels that an agent is attempting to limit one's choice of response and/or range of alternatives.

Wait, you're saying that people react with hostility when they start to feel that other people are ganging up on them to limit their freedom and force them to do things they don't want to do?

Reactance can occur when someone is heavily pressured into accepting a certain view or attitude.

Heavily pressured?

You mean like the artless chumps of NeverTrump and Conservative, Inc. keep attempting with their "Against Trump" issues again and again and again and again, thinking, "This time it's got to work"?

Reactance can encourage an individual to adopt or strengthen a view or attitude which is indeed contrary to that which was intended -- which is to say, to a response of noncompliance -- and can also increase resistance to persuasion.

Wait wait wait wait wait -- you're blowing my fucking mind here, Wikipedia. Are you telling me that when you heavily pressure people to conform to a position, they sometimes not only refuse to conform, but in fact harden in their adherence to the exact opposite position?

Whew! Mind-blowing stuff! Like National Review, I've literally never heard of this or observed this in any living earth human beings!

Nanoo-nanoo!

...
Some individuals are naturally high in reactance, a personality characteristic called trait reactance.

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

Fuckin' whoa.

Are you now telling me that certain individuals might be especially high in opposition to pressure to conform, and react especially hostilely to such pressure, and harden especially in their prior beliefs when gangs of righteous Mid-Wit cunts attempt to pressure, shame, and bully them into changing their beliefs to conform with the Mid-Wit Cunts' preferred beliefs?

Whoa... if that's true -- hear me out -- if that's true, could it possibly be that very contrarian "leave me the fuck alone" conservatives are possessed of this especially high level of "trait reactance" which makes them particularly resistant to mass pressurization attempts by the media, whether of the leftwing or Conservative, Inc. cuckwing variety?

No way.

No.

Fucking.

Way.

Bonchie makes this point, sort of, with respect to Larry Hogan and Asa Hutchinson insisting on getting into the race:

I think Hutchinson knows that [he can only help Trump]. I also think Larry Hogan knows that. That they are signaling a willingness to jump into the fray anyway (and I think both will), having no base of support, shows how maniacal their egos are. They;d rather see Republicans lose the general election in 2024 than exit the spotlight and let real conservatives figure things out.
Because to be clear, there is no world where rabid Never Trumpers who abandoned their own voters have a say in the future of the Republican party at this point, and if they try to exert one, they will only push people back toward Donald Trump.

So that's why I'm not doing any kind of sell. I know you guys are not pushable. You can change your minds, but not when someone is attempting to force a change.

I'll bring up facts and arguments in a respectful way. No shouting. No pressure. Either you agree or your don't.

I know that pressure won't work, for the simple reason that the entire world -- literally, the entire world, the media of all other countries were screaming too -- has tried pressure for seven years and it hasn't worked.

I understand that because I have a lesser intellect that only grasps simple, practical truths.

I'm not a Thought Leader like the brain trust at Nation Review. I am unencumbered by the burden of genius that hunches their weary backs.

Alas, their intellects, which tend to operate in the rarefied heights of n-dimensional abstractions, sometimes fail to comprehend the Mindthoughts and Soulpatterns of the commoners and lower-order human beings they swan above like distrait angels.

So they have embarked upon another "Against Trump" campaign to Pressurize the Incompressible:

Because that worked out so well last time.

But they're the smart, sophisticated, "serious" thinkers. The smart, sophisticated, "serious" thinkers who are literally incapable of ever learning a god-damned thing and stupidly, oafishly proud of that.

Why does National Review think that leftward social pressure will work?

Why does Commentary think leftward social pressure will work? Why does the Washington Examiner think leftward social pressure will work?

For the most elemental of all reasons:

Because leftward social pressure always works on them.

Whenever their Very Good Friends on the Left start applying coordinated social pressure to them, they almost immediately bend the knee and conform to the left's demands.

So of course these narcissists and solipsists will imagine that everyone must be amenable to the same coordinated leftwing, womanly eighth-grade girl social-conformity pressure tactics.

It doesn't matter how many times the Actual Conservatives have shown the pussy fakers that they're entirely unlike them, and do not care about what the left thinks about them, or, for that matter, what the Very Good Friends of the left -- Conservative, Inc. -- thinks of them.

They continue not learning, not thinking, not updating their knowledge base, not imaging that anyone could be different, and continue insisting that this time, the same tactics that have endlessly failed will work.

They've got to work.

Just like they did in Iraq and Afghanistan.

These people just can't stop putting themselves front and center. They think they're the heroes in every story.

You're not the heroes, assholes. At worst, you're the villains. At best, you're the NPCs.

Now be good little NPCs and do what NPCs do -- fade into the background. For once.

Oh, This Just Occurred to Me: I get angry sometimes when Trump fans get super-aggressive about attempting to bully me into conforming with their pro-Trump position.

Guess what? That shit doesn't work on me either, or any of the people here who have drifted away from Trump. We're high in trait reactance too so stop attempting to pressure us to knuckle under. Immediately. Argue, sure, but pressure? Get the fuck out of here with that shit. I don't want to be your prison bitch the same way you don't want to be mine, so don't try to make me one.

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

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1 !

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 17, 2022 12:00 PM (CO3WZ)

2 Same as it ever was.

Posted by: XTC at November 17, 2022 12:01 PM (UnA8+)

3 Mornin' Ace. I'll go fetch 'em.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 17, 2022 12:01 PM (CO3WZ)

4 So many people are “deciding” whether to get embarrassed on the national stage. Hutchinson, Pence, Cristie, Hogan, Cheney, some random member of the Bush family etc…

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 17, 2022 12:01 PM (T6NRc)

5 not sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:01 PM (LvTSG)

6 Good Afternoon.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 17, 2022 12:02 PM (O1hw1)

7 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)

8 I think at some point maybe they should stop reacting to their imaginations about what they think trump is.

And also, maybe face reality that with open ballot drop boxes with zero ballot review, we could run joe biden against biden and he'd still lose. How else can a guy with 40% approval win his midterms?

Or, you know, maybe it's just a coincidence that trump won and the GOP won where there were secure elections? And maybe, gee...the left targetted a half dozen states during Covid with the intention of keeping the Senate and put these policies into place.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 17, 2022 12:03 PM (MLrvz)

9 I think Hutchinson knows that [he can only help Trump]. I also think Larry Hogan knows that. That they are signaling a willingness to jump into the fray anyway (and I think both will), having no base of support, shows how maniacal their egos are. They;d rather see Republicans lose the general election in 2024 than exit the spotlight and let real conservatives figure things out.
Because to be clear, there is no world where rabid Never Trumpers who abandoned their own voters have a say in the future of the Republican party at this point, and if they try to exert one, they will only push people back toward Donald Trump.

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Alternate theory: They know GOPe donors are fucking idiots and will throw them seven figures in the next few weeks without question.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

10 Asa who?

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2022 12:04 PM (4I/2K)

11 "I don't go on CNN because I would rather have my words heard from someone other than their mom's."

- - What R's SHOULD Say

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 12:04 PM (Zz0t1)

12 I've said it before, but DeSantis's greatest apparent weakness right now are some of the people pushing him. So long as they believe he can be used as the Anti-Trump silver bullet, they'll be pushing him. Not the sort of allies any (sensible) R candidate wants.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 12:04 PM (eYoxG)

13 ermergahd, trump actually wasn't a Russian spy...why would anyone think that...also he wasn't corrupt because the best we could do is say his condos in NYC were worth 1/100 market value. Also, he didn't really say anything that wild. Also, his policies worked.

But aside from that, just so icky.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 17, 2022 12:04 PM (MLrvz)

14
I am announcing my candidacy for the office of President of the United States. Please send lots of money and don't expect an accounting of where it went. I'm on your side, after all.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 17, 2022 12:04 PM (MoZTd)

15 National Review only appeals to Mitch McConnell's staffers.

Not even McConnell will read them anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

16 National Review. In better cucksheds everywhere.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2022 12:06 PM (4I/2K)

17 What chaos? Leftists doing their best to bring him down at every turn while he tried to deliver for the American people things they actually wanted like a great economy, no new wars and actual border security?

The establishment has their talking points and they haven't changed a bit since 2016.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2022 12:06 PM (ZLI7S)

18

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 17, 2022 12:06 PM (vwCZJ)

19 The only thing that makes the NR editorial board get "firm" is watching Paolo the pool boy railing their wives.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2022 12:06 PM (bW8dp)

20 I gotta tell you, it moved when Trump announced.

But I gotta tell you, he seemed to be rolled by a lot of people during his tenure. But...at least he tried, unlike every republican since ... uh Nizon

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 17, 2022 12:06 PM (MLrvz)

21 I'm not a Thought Leader like the brain trust at Nation Review. I am unencumbered by the burden of genius that hunches their weary backs.

Alas, their intellects, which tend to operate in the rarefied heights of n-dimensional abstractions, sometimes fail to comprehend the Mindthoughts and Soulpatterns of the commoners and lower-order human beings they swan above like distrait angels.

Snark achievement level: 11.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 17, 2022 12:07 PM (eOEVl)

22 I am announcing my candidacy for the office of President of the United States. Please send lots of money and don't expect an accounting of where it went. I'm on your side, after all.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 17, 2022 12:04 PM (MoZTd)

I'm in! Do you accept Brave Attention Tokens?

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2022 12:07 PM (4I/2K)

23 Reactance...It's what's for breakfast, lunch, and dinner in my house...With four cats, that's about what to expect.

Also, anyone who thinks I can be persuaded or forced to become a Leftist?

GFY.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 17, 2022 12:07 PM (YIVH2)

24 Tom Nichols: The next to be found with a homeless man rampaging his domicile with a hammer sticking from his ass.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)

25 17 What chaos? Leftists doing their best to bring him down at every turn while he tried to deliver for the American people things they actually wanted like a great economy, no new wars and actual border security?

///

they're ... get this...insane. They react to their imaginations.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 17, 2022 12:07 PM (MLrvz)

26 "I'll bring up facts and arguments in a respectful way. No shouting. No pressure."

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

Are you new here?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2022 12:07 PM (XIJ/X)

27 Gee, the lockstep media is telling me I should beware of "trait reactance"...

Posted by: t-bird at November 17, 2022 12:07 PM (CaJIi)

28 Here’s my question…is there not a Republican state sentator somewhere, preferably a Vet…who loves this country and with no blackmailable skeletons in their closet that could run?!? I don’t understand why we are still here.

Posted by: AmyRey at November 17, 2022 12:08 PM (YFaVp)

29 I hate to say anything since 2022 mid-terms went so "well" I'm finding it hard to believe there won't be the same kind of outcome for 2024....

Posted by: It's me donna at November 17, 2022 12:08 PM (bs+z0)

30 > I'm in! Do you accept Brave Attention Tokens?

What the hell are we supposed to do with those things, anyway? I've been collecting them for a while, but so far haven't give enough of a shit to find out what good they are. If any.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2022 12:08 PM (bW8dp)

31 Also, you know...our sacred national soul blah blah blah when you have Pelosi uttering blood libels against hte GOP every chance she gets. Your fucking husband gets whacked by a drifter and you blame your political enemies.

also, you know, your whole mainstreaming of leftist moderate looting.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 17, 2022 12:08 PM (MLrvz)

32 26 "I'll bring up facts and arguments in a respectful way. No shouting. No pressure."

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

Are you new here?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2022 12:07 PM (XIJ/X)

========

*thinks of Ace's new nickname for me*
*cries*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:08 PM (LvTSG)

33 Was it written by Victor Davis Hanson, a long-time Trump supporter who was cooling on Trump, whose words might have some actual sway with Trump voters?

No, of course not. It was written by liberal neocon grifter and movie reviewing pussy and longtime NeverTrumper Jon Podhoretz, who has been writing the same "essay" for the past seven fucking years.
________
I've been making this point at PowerLine. Scott Johnson and John Hinderaker* just say what they've said before. Whether right or wrong, it's still dull. I've cited Ace, Surber, and PL's own Lucretia among those who aren't Only Trumpers. But these guys don't get that no one is keen on hearing "Down with Trump, v.2,578.

Hell, NR hasn't figured that out yet.

*Who was to be fair, early to Trump in 2016. Don't know what got to him.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 17, 2022 12:09 PM (TgBWG)

34 Just about 3.5-3.75 hours until I can bug outta here.

What's that? "Bored at work?" Who, me?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 17, 2022 12:09 PM (J2vNu)

35 Bring on the loser Republican juggernauts. Tis the season, after all.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 17, 2022 12:09 PM (sVtYq)

36 "Plus: Shut the Fuck Up, National Review
—Ace"

I move that every post contain this amendment to the headline from now on.

All in favor?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 12:09 PM (/EuRN)

37 22 I am announcing my candidacy for the office of President of the United States. Please send lots of money and don't expect an accounting of where it went. I'm on your side, after all.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 17, 2022 12:04 PM (MoZTd)
--------------------------

What is your GoFundMe address.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 17, 2022 12:10 PM (gfCY0)

38 Fuck yeah, Ace.

Makes me want to play "Thunderstruck" at full blast.

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Posted by: Maria at November 17, 2022 12:10 PM (Impm5)

40 These stupid fuckers. They're creating a martyr and don't even comprehend the fact.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 17, 2022 12:10 PM (OUMaO)

41 Bring on the loser Republican juggernauts. Tis the season, after all.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 17, 2022 12:09 PM (sVtYq)

Cash in while you can.

Posted by: BignJames at November 17, 2022 12:11 PM (AwYPR)

42 Alternate theory: They know GOPe donors are fucking idiots and will throw them seven figures in the next few weeks without question.

Let them. They can talk to Jeb's donors about how well that worked out for them (although I'm sure there's lots of overlap)

Posted by: Archimedes at November 17, 2022 12:11 PM (eOEVl)

43 Who the fuck is National Retards Online talking to?

Their reader base is not Trump fans, they alienated his worshippers and pragmatists like me decided when they observed NRO machine gunning our coalition in the back that I would rather get oral gratification from a meth mouthed tranny on rodeo drive than a kiss on the cheek from Davey Fwench-NRO what the fuck do you exist for?

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2022 12:11 PM (Lzpvj)

44 Posted by: Maria at November 17, 2022 12:10 PM (Impm5)

You're trying to piss me off, aren't you......

Posted by: Sarah at November 17, 2022 12:11 PM (Zz0t1)

45 @4

>> So many people are “deciding” whether to get embarrassed on the national stage. Hutchinson, Pence, Cristie, Hogan, Cheney, some random member of the Bush family etc…

I think the principle reason for these runs is money, lot's of fungible, untraceable streams of money, that flows back and forth from the Cuckservative donor class to consultants to candidates and to hangers on.

A combination of Asa Hutchinson, Larry Hogan and Chris Sununu would garner less than 5pct of the votes but would generate billions of dollars in graft.

F**k the C**ks.

Trump is the only path forward.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 17, 2022 12:11 PM (up/3i)

46 > I'm in! Do you accept Brave Attention Tokens?

What the hell are we supposed to do with those things, anyway? I've been collecting them for a while, but so far haven't give enough of a shit to find out what good they are. If any.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2022 12:08 PM (bW8dp)

Same here. I've amassed a small plethora of the damned things.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2022 12:11 PM (4I/2K)

47 42 Alternate theory: They know GOPe donors are fucking idiots and will throw them seven figures in the next few weeks without question.

Let them. They can talk to Jeb's donors about how well that worked out for them (although I'm sure there's lots of overlap)
Posted by: Archimedes at November 17, 2022 12:11 PM (eOEVl)

=========

The GOPe is going to set at least a quarter of a billions dollars an fire in an effort to beat Trump over the next year, before Iowa.

I have no objection to this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:12 PM (LvTSG)

48 32 26 "I'll bring up facts and arguments in a respectful way. No shouting. No pressure."

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

Are you new here?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2022 12:07 PM (XIJ/X)

========

*thinks of Ace's new nickname for me*
*cries*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:08 PM (LvTSG)

Watch out or you're going to get a post about being some kind of crying movie nerd.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 12:12 PM (eYoxG)

49 Just call me Reactastabby

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 17, 2022 12:12 PM (EGSGm)

50 Liberal RINO Corporate Gimp Asa Hutchinson Threatens Delusionary Vanity Fun for President;
Reached for Comment, "Beto" O'Rourke Says, "That Limpdick? LOL Get F***ed"

Man...what a loser!

Posted by: Evan "Lloyd Chrismas" McMuffin at November 17, 2022 12:12 PM (JCZqz)

51 > Jon Podhoretz

Podhoretz, from the Polish for "pod whore", i.e., a man who will stick pea pods up his own ass and then eat them, in exchange for a 1 groszy coin.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2022 12:12 PM (bW8dp)

52 Nichols is sort of partly right: people vote for guys like Trump because they are angry and disgusted and frustrated with how things are going. Obama was a voice of "CHANGE THINGS YOU CORRUPT ASSHOLES" and Trump was an even louder voice.

The response of the establishment? Cheat an even bigger asshole into power to mock us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:12 PM (Ivdso)

53 48 Watch out or you're going to get a post about being some kind of crying movie nerd.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 12:12 PM (eYoxG)

=========

*hits "POST" at Twitter*
*is okay with it*
*waits for Kevin Feige to call*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:12 PM (LvTSG)

54 And I don't like Trump at this point!

But I hate them more.
________
That was me in 2016. I was for Walker, then Cruz. Prime material for Never Trump. But NRO was such a bunch of obnoxious phuckers they talked me out of it. There was one guy named Marc Antonio Wright who really pissed me off. He threatened that vengeance would fall on all conservatives who switched to Trump. Funny how that worked out.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (TgBWG)

55 I was mulling a run for President on the Constitution Party ticket.

So I typed in "How to run for President as a Constitution Party candidate" into my search bar.

Yahoo search engine returned this as the number one hit:

"Here's how Donald Trump could theoretically run for president in 2024 from prison and govern the US behind bars, according to 9 legal scholars"

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (6xbVH)

56 "Plus: Shut the Fuck Up, National Review
—Ace"
*
I move that every post contain this amendment to the headline from now on.

All in favor?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022

***
Ah! The 21st Century equivalent to "And in conclusion, I say to you that Carthage Must Be Destroyed!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (J2vNu)

57 A+++++++++++++++++, ralphie!

Posted by: dillholio at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (3qJyx)

58 Makes me want to play "Thunderstruck" at full blast.

Okay, but no British schoolboy outfits.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (eOEVl)

59 "I'll bring up facts and arguments in a respectful way. No shouting. No pressure."

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

Are you new here?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

No, but I hear tell he did get banned here once...

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (OUMaO)

60 If Trump is so clearly poisonous to the body politic, and his 'movement' truly is the powerless, impotent dead-ender set that the Democrats, MSM, NeverTrumpers and the GOPe think it is, why are they so publicly hell-bent on stopping it right now?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (y2RgW)

61 Asa looks like Sam Donaldson, kinda. That alone should put him over the top.

Posted by: micky at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (3byMq)

62 Americans no longer get to decide who to elect as president. It's hard to expend energy on who is running once that's realized. We get to select from candidates that are going to be "approved" by the deep state. We all know this now.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (sVtYq)

63 Reactance control surface reversal

NRO is obviously in a steep dive and experiencing adverse transonic effects as they approach their future crash site. A darn shame.

Posted by: Pelosi Folk Band Revival at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (PY/t0)

64 Shoot. I don't get to vote anymore.

Posted by: Shirtless Darrow at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (4I/2K)

65 How's all that standing athwart history yelling NO working out for you, nickelfuckers?

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 17, 2022 12:14 PM (44ww/)

66 Note he made this announcement on Don LeMon's Morning Show -- you know, Where Conservatives Go to Wake Up.

...in their underwear. Trust me, it's always a surprise when you find the hammer.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi at November 17, 2022 12:14 PM (CaJIi)

67 Great writeup on AZ voting numbers:

https://tinyurl.com/4yfwnvxe

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 17, 2022 12:14 PM (BRHaw)

68 57 A+++++++++++++++++, ralphie!
Posted by: dillholio at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (3qJyx)

Too early

Posted by: It's not even Thanksgiving at November 17, 2022 12:14 PM (bs+z0)

69 maybe...just maybe...a modern American political party needs to either:

1. stop ballot harvesting as an option.

or

2. start harvesting the ever living fuck of ballots.

You can't blame trump or pretend Biden is popular if the GOP performed normally (DeSantis winning Miami Dade, for example) in secure election states while somehow losing to bloated retards, like in PA.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 17, 2022 12:14 PM (MLrvz)

70 *waits for Kevin Feige to call*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah

I have yet to receive solid proof that name isn't pronounced "faggy".

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 17, 2022 12:14 PM (OUMaO)

71 Who the fuck is National Retards Online talking to?

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2022 12:11 PM (Lzpvj)

Preaching to the choir is very lucrative on the left.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 12:14 PM (Zz0t1)

72 Posted by: Maria at November 17, 2022 12:10 PM (Impm5)

Maria
I just met a girl named Maria.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 17, 2022 12:14 PM (AiZBA)

73 62 Americans no longer get to decide who to elect as president. It's hard to expend energy on who is running once that's realized. We get to select from candidates that are going to be "approved" by the deep state. We all know this now.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (sVtYq)

Trump remains an enjoyable fuck you directed at these people. Even if I don't think we're likely to win. Also I really do like how he keeps the issue of election fraud alive, it delegitimizes the regime.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM (eYoxG)

74 72 Posted by: Maria at November 17, 2022 12:10 PM (Impm5)

Maria
I just met a girl named Maria.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 17, 2022 12:14 PM (AiZBA)

=========

What do you do with a problem like Maria?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

75 The only way I will vote in 24 is for a candidate who will announce theyre running while standing next to 50 barrels of gasoline.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM (1XmFF)

76 Back to bananas

Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM (PY/t0)

77 Egg McMuffin: "What about me? I'm fit, tanned, and rested enough from my pissant attempt to throw the UT Senate election to start a 2024 run!"

Posted by: Thrawn at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM (Rl7KJ)

78 I'm in! Do you accept Brave Attention Tokens?
*
What the hell are we supposed to do with those things, anyway? I've been collecting them for a while, but so far haven't give enough of a shit to find out what good they are. If any.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2022

***
Are there also Brave "At ease" tokens and Brave "As you were" tokens?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM (J2vNu)

79 Chuy doing the good work

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 12:16 PM (V6f9+)

80 Is there a typo in the headline? Should "vanity fun" be "vanity run?"

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 17, 2022 12:16 PM (OSf7U)

81 En fuego!

Posted by: That Guy who shouts "En fuego!" at November 17, 2022 12:16 PM (a3Q+t)

82 What pomp will they play on the house stereo for the arrival on Nanzi? Hopefully her crab-claw hand is in working order. Bird bath and uh, privilege scrub.

Posted by: micky at November 17, 2022 12:16 PM (3byMq)

83 Huchinson & Hogan, just a wee bit more 'conservative' than your average democrat.

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2022 12:16 PM (/RDPd)

84 It is truly wonderful we have gone from the silly piece of shit that is Asa to Sarah Sanders, Gov, and Lisa Rutledge, Lt. Gov. Lisa was running for gov, saw the handwriting on the wall (which isn't a bad thing) and modified her campaign ads to Lt. Gov. We all know Sarah from her days as WH press secretary, and walking her post from flank to flank and not taking shit from any rank. Rutledge has ran as a gun totin, conservative, Christian mother. Best luck for both in their new offices.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 17, 2022 12:17 PM (lz5hY)

85 Here's a thought for the GOPe.

If we can't defeat the Democrats, we might pick a fight we can still win. We can defeat you.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2022 12:17 PM (6xbVH)

86 >>>80 Is there a typo in the headline? Should "vanity fun" be "vanity run?"

yes, thank you.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:17 PM (C1Zwz)

87 Ok picture this, Trump and DeSantis are on a debate stage, what is DeSantis going to say other than he was lucky enough to survive the Donks attempt to steal his election and had a state legislature that actually worked with him which he is not going?

His entire platform would essentially be a MAGA platform or a very closely hewed MAGA platform and remember, he's a military guy so do we actually know he wouldn't be one of them GOP Russia/War Hawks?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 17, 2022 12:17 PM (up/3i)

88 83 Huchinson & Hogan, just a wee bit more 'conservative' than your average democrat.
Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2022 12:16 PM (/RDPd)

They're the "Slowly" half of "Slowly, and then all at once".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 12:17 PM (/EuRN)

89 Seems like "all the right people" are either pissed off, scared or angry that Trump intends to run again.

Good.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 17, 2022 12:17 PM (Q4IgG)

90 We're high in trait reactance too so stop attempting to pressure us to knuckle under. Immediately.

ISWYDT.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2022 12:18 PM (a3Q+t)

91 Related, David French had this to say about Josh Shapiro winning office:

"I know he was a strong favorite but this was a welcome development. His opponent [Mastranio] was dangerously unhinged."

That's right, "conservative" French, "Christian" French is not just okay with, but cheering the election of a pro-abortion far left politician in full support of destroying Christianity and corrupting our culture.

This is what opposing Trump so hard leads you to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:18 PM (Ivdso)

92 “I would tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering — I know more about him than anybody — other than, perhaps, his wife,”

Maybe Marco, he has good manners.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 17, 2022 12:18 PM (gfCY0)

93 take heart

the AOS were big Cruz supporters but then they came around

I'm mean, after all, we are not communists (NTers)

Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2022 12:18 PM (us2H3)

94 And Ace is right, everything the McFailure wing is doing is to separate Trump from his supporters. They are afraid of anyone who might be uncontrollable, or Conservative or both, in their worst-case.

There are a LOT of people supposedly on the Right who are carrying water for the McFailure wing and it makes me sad/angry.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 12:19 PM (V6f9+)

95 88 83 Huchinson & Hogan, just a wee bit more 'conservative' than your average democrat.

///

hogan literal is cvck

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 17, 2022 12:19 PM (MLrvz)

96 Ace,

Thanks. And you are very welcome.
This is why you convinced me to vote for Trump in 2016. You made sense. Ted Cruz wasn't/isn't electable nationally. Trump was a long shot, but everyone else sucked a$$. There are good arguments against Trump and good arguments for him. It makes the most sense to see how things develop and go from there. There isn't going to be any sure thing candidate no matter what. And there is some value to running somebody who will at least call them out on their bullshit directly without worrying about "norms" that have been coopted to makes us servants to them.

Buckle up - its gonna be a wild ride.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 17, 2022 12:19 PM (imVnn)

97 Hall of Fame.

Also, Gay.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at November 17, 2022 12:19 PM (zdYK9)

98 Somebody ought to start (and maintain) a chronological graph with all the various putative GOP candidates depicting the time course of their candidacy from announcement to peak media coverage to decline to dropping out entirely. Some will be mere blips, some might trickle along with 0.5 to 1.0=% support. ¡Jeb! might even get a pixel or two.

Might be amusing.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2022 12:19 PM (ykeLU)

99 Posted by: Maria at November 17, 2022 12:10 PM (Impm5)

An "Imp" is one of the least-important servants of Stan, right?

Minx 1.0 is gonna be quite the AI, it seems.

Posted by: mikeski at November 17, 2022 12:19 PM (P1f+c)

100 What do you do with a problem like Maria?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM

Is she a pregnant sailor?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (a3Q+t)

101 Tom Nichols. Ol' salami nipples is at it again, eh?

Posted by: Purveyor of fine cured meats at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (pLSJi)

102 People here having Trump vs DeSantis fights are like two Jews arguing on a boxcar to Auschwitz.

Focus, people. Don't let the idiot trolls stir you up and set you off.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (Ivdso)

103 I am sure I will change as we get closer, but right now the RNC can sod right off. They put Mitch back in, he is drooling at his chance to pass all the liberal legislation he can before he goes to the senate in the sky. I have seen the enemy, etc etc.

Posted by: Piper at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (ZdaMQ)

104 98 Somebody ought to start (and maintain) a chronological graph with all the various putative GOP candidates depicting the time course of their candidacy from announcement to peak media coverage to decline to dropping out entirely. Some will be mere blips, some might trickle along with 0.5 to 1.0=% support. ¡Jeb! might even get a pixel or two.

Might be amusing.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2022 12:19 PM (ykeLU)

=========

Tangential thought:

Ben Carson raised over $70 million in his primary campaign in 2016.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (LvTSG)

105 Say what you will about communists, at least they believe in something.

Democrats and NTers are just emotionally stunted idiot children with no ethic or worldview greater than "Gimme Gimme Gimme I Hate You Daddy Buy Me A Toy".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (/EuRN)

106 I am a 29+ 'ette who used to prefer quiet, gentlemanly, we aren't like that candidates. Started to wonder a bit after seeing how Reagan was opposed by those types, often for the 'good of the party'. Yeah. Bill Clinton? Good ole boy, really? And the savaging of Bush, who kept a stiff upper lip. To what effect? McCain...phhhhtttt. Etc. Yeah, Trump. Big mouth, big ego. So what? He was pushing exactly what most Americans wanted, pushing into headwinds, often generated by his own party. Really?

So much pointing up his supposed shortcomings, even after the elections we just had. He's a wrecking ball, yep. Might be what's needed.

Posted by: Lirio100 at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (w/VHS)

107 They put zero effort into stopping mcconnell and mccarthy.

Likewise funnelling money to Cokebear.

But they demand that they and they alone pick the GOP candidate.

Fuck them. I don't say that it has to be Trump. But it will NOT be whatever they decide.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (JTRqZ)

108 It's a tell, isn't it, that the NevereverTrumpers don't have a word to say about election reform, Mitch McConnel spending 6 million bucks on Murkowski's INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE campaign AGAINST the Republican senate nominee, or any number of weaknesses in GOP election turnout models? No, none of those vital issues are to be addressed, it's just one big ragin' rant against conservatives. "Make America Great Again" melts them down into a toxic puddle of green goo.

Posted by: mrp at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (6eRlp)

109 Hooogan!

Posted by: Col. Wilhelm Klink at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (PiwSw)

110 "But I hate them more..."

Precisely. A thinking person cogitates on what's happening and thinks, if they are all against him- he must be doing something right.

If anything now I want Trump re-elected so he can tell McConnell, "Blow me".

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (ifHdv)

111 100 What do you do with a problem like Maria?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM

Is she a pregnant sailor?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (a3Q+t)
______
In today's navy, if pregnant, that should be "he".

Posted by: Eeyore at November 17, 2022 12:21 PM (TgBWG)

112 >>> I'm in! Do you accept Brave Attention Tokens?

What the hell are we supposed to do with those things, anyway? I've been collecting them for a while, but so far haven't give enough of a shit to find out what good they are. If any.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2022 12:08 PM (bW8dp)

Same here. I've amassed a small plethora of the damned things.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2022 12:11 PM (4I/2K)

They are currently worth about 20 cents / token and most exchanges will allow you to make that trade. There will be fees and wotnot.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2022 12:21 PM (PY/t0)

113 GOP pre-primaries = Neun und neunzig ~~Luft~~ trial balloons

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2022 12:21 PM (ykeLU)

114 What do you do with a problem like Maria?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

You dance with her.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 12:21 PM (V6f9+)

115 Damned good post. The sort that got me coming here regularly.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 17, 2022 12:21 PM (TgBWG)

116 Limp dick sucker of the cock Hutchinson would be first inline to vote for institutionalized gay marriage.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 17, 2022 12:21 PM (pb6ET)

117 2. start harvesting the ever living fuck of ballots.

And since No. 1 ain't happening...

Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at November 17, 2022 12:21 PM (zSyrn)

118 How's all that standing athwart history yelling NO working out for you, nickelfuckers?
Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 17, 2022

***
What a cool preposition!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 17, 2022 12:21 PM (J2vNu)

119 Blue Hen,

yup. They're determined to be made leaders of the GOP after six or seven years of defection to the Democrats. At least Kim Philby had the good taste to stay in Russia.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:21 PM (C1Zwz)

120 Trump is going to have to hire some new writers for this season of "Republican Primary" Little Marco, Low Energy Jeb, and "Your Dad Murdered Kennedy" Cruz were great, His DeSantis hit was weak, and we'll expect more this time, like Minature Cock Ring Asa, or 2 for 1 Handys Kinzinger.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 17, 2022 12:22 PM (O3H6G)

121 Might be amusing.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2022 12:19 PM (ykeLU)

Charlie Crist would be a ramrod straight orange line at the bottom of the graph.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 12:22 PM (/EuRN)

122 Ace, is there something other than rotundness that you've referred to Tom as 'area expert'?

Nancy does have her crab-claw with her today, I'm happy to report.

Posted by: micky at November 17, 2022 12:22 PM (3byMq)

123 A friend said to me this morning, "I would rather lose with Trump if that's the case, then win with most of these Republican gimps".

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:22 PM (ifHdv)

124 114 What do you do with a problem like Maria?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

You dance with her.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 12:21 PM (V6f9+)

=======

All night?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:22 PM (LvTSG)

125 Also you can designate to give bat to content providers. The triangle up there will show you if a site takes donations. The hq does not.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2022 12:23 PM (PY/t0)

126 Let's run soon to be former senator burr. He's groovy. Plus he's from the super, super red state of North Carolina. Sure fire winner!

Posted by: NCKate at November 17, 2022 12:23 PM (0R0Vd)

127 I'm backing Trump above all others, permanently. I was backing him permanently before he announced his 2016 run. Plus the fact that he's been through the NJ gaming commission and deemed PERFECTLY crime-free his entire life. Had dumbocrats crawling up his ass for 6 years trying to nab him for anything they can, and they failed. They can't even successfully frame him for a crime.

He's been a contractor his entire life. His one job was to do what he says he'll do. So even the things he never cared about, he delivers on his promise because it was a stipulation in the agreement with his supporters.

Let me know when Desantis rivals that resume.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at November 17, 2022 12:23 PM (buTO7)

128 Do you really think the week and a half vote 'counting' for the midterms assuaged the overwhelming majority of the country who think our elections are rigged?

It seems to be an un-discussed metric anywhere. The fact that Florida, Texas, and Ohio counted their votes on election day, and other, smaller states took so long to count is a dog that didn't bark.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 17, 2022 12:23 PM (lTGtQ)

129 I think the nomination wil mirror 2016

no serious threats to Trump and they just got mowe down one at a time

and I don't think Ron is running

Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2022 12:23 PM (us2H3)

130 Christopher Waller, one of six members of the Fed's board.

'Wage growth has been a contributing factor to inflation, especially in the service sector, so it is important to get the labor market into better balance to bring future wage growth down to a more sustainable level that will assist in moving overall inflation lower,' said Waller.

How does wage growth increase inflation? I will only receive a higher salary for 2 reasons: 1) My work labor product is worth more and/or 2) My production has increase the value of the company.

Chris is a fucking idiot!!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 17, 2022 12:24 PM (BRHaw)

131 Ben Carson raised over $70 million in his primary campaign in 2016.

Imagine the stampede to give Asa Hutchinson money! His biggest donation may be in the Christmas card from his mom.

Posted by: t-bird at November 17, 2022 12:24 PM (CaJIi)

132 The government is corrupt and full of crooks from top to bottom. Trump was the outsider disrupting all the crooked scams and schemes.

Now the crooks want to get back to business as usual, as it was before Trump disrupted their business.

Trump 2024 is Disruptor II.

Posted by: davidt at November 17, 2022 12:24 PM (oTZbj)

133 Pentagon audit says Afghanistan war was $145 BILLION "total, epic, and predestined failure"

-
Now do the Biden administration.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 17, 2022 12:24 PM (FVME7)

134 123 A friend said to me this morning, "I would rather lose with Trump if that's the case, then win with most of these Republican gimps".
Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:22 PM (ifHdv)

Yup... Sounds like my Husband

Posted by: It's me donna at November 17, 2022 12:24 PM (bs+z0)

135 People here having Trump vs DeSantis fights are like two Jews arguing on a boxcar to Auschwitz.

Focus, people. Don't let the idiot trolls stir you up and set you off.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:20 PM (Ivdso)

Your point is valid, however the Auschwitz comparison is a bit much. I get it, tho.

The media still thinks that Trump was a fluke and THEY will dictate who our candidate is as they have for decades. They started the Trump v. DeSantis rift and they are fanning it. My disappointment is that Trump heard it, bought into it and went to the MEDIA and trashed DeSantis. I thought he knew and completely understood who the media were and knew to NOT listen to a fucking thing they say.

But, alas.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 12:24 PM (Zz0t1)

136 Sometimes you make a post, read a little more, then spend twenty minutes looking for the edit button.
You know?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 17, 2022 12:24 PM (gfCY0)

137 I don't know. Can you respect the opinion of people who can't even accomplish portion control?

I think not.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:24 PM (ifHdv)

138 Reactance. This is largely the story of my life.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist to the Stars at November 17, 2022 12:25 PM (Vu7A1)

139 "People understand who Donald Trump is today... He's a known quantity now. We know the chaos that comes with him."

Oh really Asa? The fact that you chose to spew this on the Don Le-Mon show, demonstrates what a discerning, brilliant mind you have. You and Pence can go whine and cry on his barely watched show with zero influence and then go get Tom Nichols to champion for you on his Mount Twitter of hatred.

Posted by: Cheri at November 17, 2022 12:25 PM (oiNtH)

140 What do you do with a problem like Maria?

Bang her senseless then wipe your dick on her wimple.

Posted by: Georg von Trapp at November 17, 2022 12:25 PM (pLSJi)

141 >>>There was, in fact, a coordinated pressure campaign mounted by all the Murdoch properties which started the day after the election. The Wall Street Journal, the New York Post, and Fox News all began pushing the "Dump Trump" line.

DeSanters are going to have a hard sell going with "I stand with Paul Ryan," if that be the case.

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:25 PM (JhU5U)

142 12 I've said it before, but DeSantis's greatest apparent weakness right now are some of the people pushing him. So long as they believe he can be used as the Anti-Trump silver bullet, they'll be pushing him. Not the sort of allies any (sensible) R candidate wants.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 12:04 PM (eYoxG)

He needs to stay in Florida considering he just ran and won a second term for governor. He's also not pushing hard on any of the things Trump ran on and won (no sending a busload of illegals to Martha's Vineyard doesn't count. If he really believed in limiting immigration he'd be pushing state legislation to ass rape corps who hire these people. Notice he's not doing that).

Ultimately Ace is correct that Trump needs to be supported again because we must keep pushing forward instead of retreating back to the culture war bullshit the elites use as a mask to cover their real agenda.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 17, 2022 12:25 PM (QRdjz)

143 Ace, there's no reason to dislike Trump at this point.

- That is, if you ever truly liked him in the first place.

There is only one serious alternative to Trump and that would be Desantis. Eventually, Desantis may declare. But if he's smart, that will only be to get his toes wet.

It's obvious that Desantis does not have the star power.
It's obvious that Desantis does not have the thick skin.
It's not yet clear whether Desantis will clearly distance himself from the establishment the way that Trump has.
The debates will make that clear. Until then, why should we dump Trump??
Oh, I know! Because the media and the GOPe insist we must! Yeah, that's the ticket. NOT.

Posted by: Bach in Black at November 17, 2022 12:25 PM (7ubmG)

144 BTW Google says it is National Transgender Awareness Week, so check inside your pants to see if you match your driver's license. If you do, disregard. That is all.

Posted by: azjaeger at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (lpp85)

145 If your threshold for freedom and individual rights can be "exhausted" simply by the media's full court press on Trump, well it worked, then.

Posted by: Dark Force Thirsting For Power at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (QY+6a)

146 A friend said to me this morning, "I would rather lose with Trump if that's the case, then win with most of these Republican gimps".
Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:22 PM (ifHdv)

That's just it: the establishment thinks that they can win a game of chicken, because the base will swerve at the last moment, vote for the Bush or Romney type, and things will return to normal. But, the base won't. They'll say "fuck it" and slam their foot down on the accelerator.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (wmDcS)

147 129 I think the nomination wil mirror 2016

no serious threats to Trump and they just got mowe down one at a time

and I don't think Ron is running
Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2022 12:23 PM (us2H3)

========

I think the only way Ron runs is if Trump looks vulnerable from anyone but DeSantis. That may sound off, but with DeSantis having just started his second (and last) term as governor, Trump is the only serious contender declared right now.

DeSantis could, potentially, announce a run today, but it's the sort of look that most politicians like to avoid. What becomes the cutoff point? Six months? A year? In a year, Iowa is weeks from happening. By that point, the idea of a DeSantis candidacy isn't taken seriously by many people because he's not actually in the race.

Rick Perry essentially tried to do it in 2012, but he fumbled it, and he wasn't up against someone like Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (LvTSG)

148 'Wage growth has been a contributing factor to inflation, especially in the service sector, so it is important to get the labor market into better balance to bring future wage growth down to a more sustainable level that will assist in moving overall inflation lower,' said Waller.

Posted by: rhennigantx

Waller has a plan that includes illegal aliens, slaves, or both.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (lTGtQ)

149 The whole "standing athwart history saying stop" thing was never conservatism anyway. Its preservationism.

Conservatism is not about picking a golden imaginary time and saying "keep it like this forever". Conservatives see problems with ALL times. You cannot pick a golden age.

Conservatism is about conserving certain principles, virtues, concepts, and truths. Its about promoting these concepts and protecting them in culture, like liberty, justice, truth, beauty, righteousness, and honor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (Ivdso)

150 Ivanka says she's sitting out this election. She will be busy attending to kids and smothering Jared with her enormous tata's.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (pb6ET)

151 Distrait, eh? Had to look that one up. Great word, though. And fuck Never-Trump with Pelosi’s hammer.

Posted by: James Brown at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (uXTLF)

152 64 Posted by: Shirtless Darrow at November 17, 2022 12:13 PM (4I/2K)

Nonsense Darrell you can fill out as many ballots as you like...

//Milwaukee Ward Heeler

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (Lzpvj)

153 Is it just me or are others now getting super obstructing pop ups on AoS? It’s not for pron so I don’t think it’s due to “unsafe browsing “ Ads are for normal stuff like vacations just a plague if then that quickly obscure the text.
At this point I suspect Official Interference.

Posted by: Zek at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (kupFC)

154 but DeSantis's greatest apparent weakness right now are some of the people pushing him. So long as they believe he can be used as the Anti-Trump silver bullet, they'll be pushing him. Not the sort of allies any (sensible) R candidate wants.
==
We are going to get a chance to see how smart a politician he is. I'm actually kind of excited about it. If he turns out to have the fortitude to play the long game, he could be a legit long term terminator post trump.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 17, 2022 12:27 PM (IJF4G)

155 @135

>>But, alas.

Again, why is everything Trumps fault?

DeSantis could clear things up any time he wants to, he's not because he's being just as big a d**k as Trump is.

It's like the nonsensical, Trumps a ball of chaos, it's chaos the media creates and echos to create a faux sense of things being CRAZY AND OUT OF CONTROL.

Do people really think that's not going to happen to DeSantis?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 17, 2022 12:27 PM (up/3i)

156 146 A friend said to me this morning, "I would rather lose with Trump if that's the case, then win with most of these Republican gimps".
Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:22 PM (ifHdv)

That's just it: the establishment thinks that they can win a game of chicken, because the base will swerve at the last moment, vote for the Bush or Romney type, and things will return to normal. But, the base won't. They'll say "fuck it" and slam their foot down on the accelerator.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (wmDcS)

=========

We're at the point where Marcus T (MARCUS T!) is making very strong pro-Trump noises with the expressed point of fucking over the GOPe.

That's an interesting turn of events.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

157 *thinks of Ace's new nickname for me*
*cries*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:08 PM

I thought you were embracing it. This site has a rich panoply of "That Guy" commentators, who are honored that Ace selected you to join them.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2022 12:28 PM (a3Q+t)

158 Gotta love how dumb that dude in the Law & Order video is. He readily admits he has sex with men (plural), but seems shocked to find out this makes him gay. I think I remember this episode. The guy is a football star or something?

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 17, 2022 12:28 PM (iFTx/)

159 Don't tell ME about Trans, hippy. I've been driving Trans-Ams all my life, Jack! Look it up!

Posted by: Spongebrain Shitpants at November 17, 2022 12:28 PM (/EuRN)

160 Remember this. The same Republicans running against Trump, are the same people who just helped the senate pass a gay marriage bill. They are also the same people who helped pass the phony infrastructure bill.

If that's the alternative, I'll take a trump any day based on his accomplishments.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:28 PM (ifHdv)

161 Maria
I just met a girl named Maria.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 17, 2022 12:14 PM (AiZBA)

She sounds like a flibbertigibbet.

Posted by: spindrift at November 17, 2022 12:28 PM (h5TKJ)

162 >>>Ultimately Ace is correct that Trump needs to be supported again because we must keep pushing forward instead of retreating back to the culture war bullshit the elites use as a mask to cover their real agenda.

i didn't say that. I said the opposite of that

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:28 PM (C1Zwz)

163 87 Ok picture this, Trump and DeSantis are on a debate stage, what is DeSantis going to say other than he was lucky enough to survive the Donks attempt to steal his election and had a state legislature that actually worked with him which he is not going?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 17, 2022 12:17 PM

You may as well envision them debating Karl Marx, too, because that's just as realistic. I can't imaging DeSantis running if Trump is in. You lose to Trump in the primaries, or you win, and a huge chunk of OnlyTrumpers don't turn out, and (as the mid-terms have shown), even in a election environment generally favorable to the Republicans, you're at a major disadvantage to start with, so you lose to Biden's corpse.

No, best to wait until 2028. If Trump loses this time, he can't/won't run then.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 17, 2022 12:28 PM (JCZqz)

164 150 which is probably why Melania is in. I am thinking we had a me or her discussion at some point. The princess lost.

Posted by: Piper at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (ZdaMQ)

165 Ivanka says she's sitting out this election. She will be busy attending to kids and smothering Jared with her enormous tata's.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (pb6ET)

Good. And may her tata's keep him as fucking far away from the Trump campaign and hopeful White House as possible.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (Zz0t1)

166 Again, why is everything Trumps fault?

///

they is hysterical bitches.

trump didn't collude
trump did good job as president
biden doubled food and gas prices
biden lost afghanistan in most humiliating stupid way possible
biden open the border to everyone because he hate america
oh, right, biden Is owned by China and Ukraine.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (MLrvz)

167 I saw Republican Gimp open for Mumford and Sons at Albert Hall in 2009.

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (44ww/)

168 DeSantis could, potentially, announce a run today, but it's the sort of look that most politicians like to avoid. What becomes the cutoff point? Six months? A year?

I've seen suggestions (here?) that he basically has to announce no later than early next year, and certainly by the end of the FL legislative session. Beyond that, everyone else will already be in the race, with donors and campaign staff lined up.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (wmDcS)

169 >>>But they can't shut the fuck up. They think they're smart -- in fact, they're among the dullest, middest wits in the world. They have been supported by a #Rigged system of favor-banking and patronage, and even so, have managed to claw their way up right to just below the middle.

Yeah, they are really do DeSantis a disservice here which is why I think that it is more of a Tea Party 2.0 op.

Dump Trump? Ryan wins.

Split the base and rule over the ashes? Ryan wins.

That's why it is probably best for DeSantis to wait for 2028, IMO.

Flame away.

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (JhU5U)

170 ...a personality characteristic called trait reactance.

*********

I checked.

There is no ICD-10 code for this.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (ykeLU)

171 124 114 What do you do with a problem like Maria?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

You dance with her.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 12:21 PM (V6f9+)

=======

All night?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:22 PM (LvTSG)

Well yeah, she's a fair lady

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (V6f9+)

172 >>> Ace, there's no reason to dislike Trump at this point.

- That is, if you ever truly liked him in the first place.

...

oh i'm a faker

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (C1Zwz)

173 This is way OT, but I just ran across an email on a listserv from someone who lists their job as "Accessibility and Inclusivity Crusader."

WTF?

Not very inclusive if you are leaving out the Muslim "Accessibility and Inclusivity Jihadists."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (YIVH2)

174 Back in 2016 I was not all-in for Trump. I seriously expected him to flame out like Ross Perot, but maybe leave a useful legacy. Instead, he wound up the candidate. Living in NY, that meant little, but I was still going to vote for him to flip the bird to Clinton.
Until around the end of September and beginning of October.
By that time, the NeverTrumper whining had gotten so far under my skin that I was now going to vote for Trump to flip them the bird.
I am getting that same feeling again.

Posted by: Sam at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (ohyxL)

175 I'm in! Do you accept Brave Attention Tokens?
*
What the hell are we supposed to do with those things, anyway? I've been collecting them for a while, but so far haven't give enough of a shit to find out what good they are. If any.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Are there also Brave "At ease" tokens and Brave "As you were" tokens?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

If you've got ADD or ADHD, can they be divided up into hundredths, like dollars-to-pennies? Or smaller?

I'm not sure I can pay attention long enough to earn a whole one.

Posted by: mikesk.....oh, shiny at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (P1f+c)

176 My mind read the headline as "gimp Ass Huchinson" and it wasn't until I got halfway through the article that I realized that wasn't what you wrote.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (fKIdX)

177 Again, why is everything Trumps fault?

Posted by: Thomas Bender

Everything is Trump's fault going back to 1975 or so. Note that they would not be attacking Trump if he wasn't a viable solution.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (lTGtQ)

178 Anybody else have Electrical Engineering flashbacks when reading the word 'reactance'? Can't think of the last time I saw that word.

Posted by: t-bird at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (CaJIi)

179
i didn't say that. I said the opposite of that
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:28 PM (C1Zwz)

Forget it, he's rolling.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)

180 A friend said to me this morning, "I would rather lose with Trump if that's the case, then win with most of these Republican gimps".
Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:22 PM (ifHdv)

That's just it: the establishment thinks that they can win a game of chicken, because the base will swerve at the last moment, vote for the Bush or Romney type, and things will return to normal. But, the base won't. They'll say "fuck it" and slam their foot down on the accelerator.
--
The last 10 days has been about their DENIAL state. They just got a very loud FCUK you message in response to their coordinated messaging op. They are in denial. They still think they can grift us.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (dfTzj)

181 Extremely well said Christopher R Taylor @comment #149.
I personally plan on using what you said there.

Posted by: Bach in Black at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (7ubmG)

182 149 The whole "standing athwart history saying stop" thing was never conservatism anyway. Its preservationism.

Conservatism is not about picking a golden imaginary time and saying "keep it like this forever". Conservatives see problems with ALL times. You cannot pick a golden age.

Conservatism is about conserving certain principles, virtues, concepts, and truths. Its about promoting these concepts and protecting them in culture, like liberty, justice, truth, beauty, righteousness, and honor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:26 PM (Ivdso)

It was intended to convey a particular attitude and view of history. More similar to today than most would think. Basically the destiny of all things, including the US, is to eventual decline and collapse(cyclical history rather than directional), and the standing athwart was the valorous if doomed effort to stop it.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (eYoxG)

183 This site has a rich panoply of "That Guy" commentators

Yeah here's the test: I was gone for six months one year, just stopped coming, even looking at the site, never commenting. I came back and nobody had even noticed I was gone. People NOTICE when some better, more engaging and likable commenters are gone and come back. They ask about "what happened to..." that person.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (Ivdso)

184 47 The GOPe is going to set at least a quarter of a billions dollars an fire in an effort to beat Trump over the next year, before Iowa.

I have no objection to this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:12 PM (LvTSG)

I wish a small percentage of this would wind up in my coffers, but I am not part of the political machine or a whore, but I repeat myself.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (qoLdL)

185 158 Gotta love how dumb that dude in the Law & Order video is. He readily admits he has sex with men (plural), but seems shocked to find out this makes him gay. I think I remember this episode. The guy is a football star or something?
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 17, 2022 12:28 PM (iFTx/)

Maybe he's part Arab. Or Greek.

Posted by: They're weird over there at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (pLSJi)

186 I saw Trait Reactance crush 40 Toyotas at Quad Cities Monster Jam in '87.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (+R5dc)

187 you can tell Ace is in a great mood today, a half dozen or so F bombs

As Rush said, the only person who can take out Trump, is Trump. And I was thinking he was doing a damn good job of that going after Ron D and Young-kin.

Had a very good self nomination speech, if only...he could just focus on winning , and only winning.

Posted by: ziggggeeee at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (kobgL)

188 I just hope we can talk Youngkin can be persuaded to take on Kaine in 2024

Mitch did a terrible job with Sununu

course, chris is a dickwad

Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (us2H3)

189 oh i'm a faker

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (C1Zwz)

That's what Garrett says.

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (JhU5U)

190 AtC and some others and I were going over reactance this morning in reference to why we MUST support more aid to Ukraine.

Posted by: spongeworthy at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (vZqvS)

191 "158 Gotta love how dumb that dude in the Law & Order video is. He readily admits he has sex with men (plural), but seems shocked to find out this makes him gay. I think I remember this episode. The guy is a football star or something?
Posted by: Elric Blade"

Now do ayrabs.

Posted by: Dark Force Thirsting For Power at November 17, 2022 12:31 PM (QY+6a)

192 168 DeSantis could, potentially, announce a run today, but it's the sort of look that most politicians like to avoid. What becomes the cutoff point? Six months? A year?

I've seen suggestions (here?) that he basically has to announce no later than early next year, and certainly by the end of the FL legislative session. Beyond that, everyone else will already be in the race, with donors and campaign staff lined up.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (wmDcS)

==========

He's got no time after having just won re-election. He could, but I don't think he's that guy.

His only hope is to come in last second, right before Iowa (in a year) when the entire primary race is in a morass and they need a savior. However, that's not going to happen since it's going to be Trump at a consistent 40-60% support in polls while everyone else flounders to be the flavor of the week hitting 15%.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

193 Guess what? That shit doesn't work on me either, or any of the people here who have drifted away from Trump. We're high in trait reactance too so stop attempting to pressure us to knuckle under. Immediately. Argue, sure, but pressure? Get the fuck out of here with that shit. I don't want to be your prison bitch the same way you don't want to be mine, so don't try to make me one.
___

lol!
This was a fun read, ace.
Thanks.

I agree 100%.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 17, 2022 12:31 PM (JvHea)

194 DeSanters are going to have a hard sell going with "I stand with Paul Ryan," if that be the case.
Posted by: flounder

No, because the play is 'stay the fuck out of the way and let Trump slam his own dick in a drawer and forget the key.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 17, 2022 12:31 PM (IyrhE)

195 What do you do with a problem like Maria?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvFsULpx0To

Posted by: R.B. Greaves at November 17, 2022 12:31 PM (PiwSw)

196 183 This site has a rich panoply of "That Guy" commentators

Yeah here's the test: I was gone for six months one year, just stopped coming, even looking at the site, never commenting. I came back and nobody had even noticed I was gone. People NOTICE when some better, more engaging and likable commenters are gone and come back. They ask about "what happened to..." that person.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (Ivdso)

People noticed, Chris

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 12:31 PM (V6f9+)

197 We're at the point where Marcus T (MARCUS T!) is making very strong pro-Trump noises with the expressed point of fucking over the GOPe.

That's an interesting turn of events.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

Prior to 2020 I joked that the elections would be:

"Trump 2020: Because, fuck you, that's why."
"Trump Jr 2024: No, seriously. Fuck you."
"Barron Trump 2032: Admit it: you don't come here for the hunting."

People are furious, and the GOP establishment continues to insist that once Trump is gone everything will go back to the way it was before.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 17, 2022 12:31 PM (wmDcS)

198 172 oh i'm a faker

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (C1Zwz)

========

A midnight...taker?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

199 >>I don't want to be your prison bitch

That's not the feeling I am getting.

...just sayin'.

Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2022 12:31 PM (MaJGV)

200 If Hutchinson's already throwing his hat into the ring, we're probably going to have a record setting amount of grifting Also-rans during this next cycle.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 17, 2022 12:32 PM (/4vtq)

201 to give bat to content providers.

We are fortunate, on this site, if we've been very good and haven't disappointed Ace, that the content providers give bat to us on The Café.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2022 12:32 PM (a3Q+t)

202 189 oh i'm a faker

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:29 PM (C1Zwz)

That's what Garrett says.
Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (JhU5U)

Squirt gun. Yogurt. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Fakin' it at November 17, 2022 12:32 PM (pLSJi)

203 Pelosi out as Dem leader. Will she retire?

Posted by: WisRich at November 17, 2022 12:32 PM (G0vdT)

204 San Francisco Transgender Income Program Includes 97 Gender Options, 19 Sexual Orientations.

97 * 19=1843

Almost 2000 options!!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 17, 2022 12:32 PM (BRHaw)

205 Pig says, "WTF?"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QrxPuk0JefA

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 17, 2022 12:32 PM (FVME7)

206 >>>That's not the feeling I am getting.
...just sayin'.

I think we all see the world the way we'd like it to be.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:32 PM (C1Zwz)

207 People noticed, Chris

Nah, it didn't hurt my feelings or anything. Some people are a lot more dynamic and exciting and memorable, and that's their gift. I appreciate what they bring to the blog.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:32 PM (Ivdso)

208 "That's an interesting turn of events.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:27 PM (LvTSG)"

Don't get crazy now. There's still plenty of time for Trump to step on his dick or make untoward comments which will further alienate him from the electorate.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (ifHdv)

209 What do you do with a problem like Maria?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

If she looks like Julie Andrews, you take her in back and spank her vigorously like the bad girl she is.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (wmDcS)

210 Are there also Brave "At ease" tokens and Brave "As you were" tokens?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
___

Heh.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (JvHea)

211 They didn't take "No Fuck You" for an answer the 1st time.

Posted by: DaveA at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (FhXTo)

212 t's obvious that Desantis does not have the star power.
It's obvious that Desantis does not have the thick skin.
It's not yet clear whether Desantis will clearly distance himself from the establishment the way that Trump has.
The debates will make that clear.
Posted by: Bach in Black

None of that is 'obvious' or 'clear.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (IyrhE)

213 People NOTICE when some better, more engaging and likable commenters are gone and come back. They ask about "what happened to..." that person.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (Ivdso)

I was waiting 6 months and 1 day for you to come back before inquiring. You blinked.

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (JhU5U)

214 And when they started doing this-- I felt my support for Trump increasing.

And I don't like Trump at this point!

Yep. Trump and I have the same enemies.

Posted by: McBane at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (yQpMk)

215 194 DeSanters are going to have a hard sell going with "I stand with Paul Ryan," if that be the case.
Posted by: flounder

No, because the play is 'stay the fuck out of the way and let Trump slam his own dick in a drawer and forget the key.'
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 17, 2022 12:31 PM (IyrhE)

If the narrative settles into Trump vs NeverTrump and their assorted hopes to stop Trump, Trump wins easily. That's where the contest is heading at the moment.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (eYoxG)

216 I happen to be simpatico (I think) with Ace's reasoning here. I know in my head that Trump can't win as he's been too dirtied up, and it's not fair and blah, blah, blah....

But then I see the likes of NR grab a stick and get out in front of the band and pretend that they're the drum major, and I'm like, yeah, up yours, pal.....

Posted by: noneyouknowyouknow at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (QpUKb)

217 >>I came back and nobody had even noticed I was gone.

Anyone seen Mark A. Edwards around, lately?

Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (MaJGV)

218 What would the neverTrumpers do if Trump went away?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (eGTCV)

219 dammit

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (yQpMk)

220 Breaking news.

Nancy P. says she won't be part of the Democrat House leadership, but she will stay a member of the 118th Congress.

That means she resigns in Jan. after a goodbye tour that will rival the McCain funeral.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (qH6FZ)

221 Nun 1: How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?
Nun 2: She ain't a moonbeam she's just a bitch and I 'ate her.

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 17, 2022 12:34 PM (44ww/)

222 ace opts for nerf hammers

Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2022 12:34 PM (us2H3)

223 "But I hate them more"

That was my reason for voting DJT. As long as he hates the same hateful people that I hate, we're good.

Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata at November 17, 2022 12:34 PM (24fqN)

224 I was waiting 6 months and 1 day for you to come back before inquiring.

Missed it by THAT much!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:35 PM (Ivdso)

225 I personally think the real choice of the deep state and the GOP in particular is going to be Nikki Haley. Place your bets.

*throws down a $10*

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 17, 2022 12:35 PM (sVtYq)

226 this is also why ed driscoll's nevertrumper rehab campaign continues to not work. fuck those traitors, forever.

Posted by: x at November 17, 2022 12:35 PM (ZC2go)

227 tI don't want to be your prison bitch

Sounds like a lyric to a song.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 12:35 PM (Zz0t1)

228 ...a personality characteristic called trait reactance.
*********
I checked.
There is no ICD-10 code for this.
Posted by: Muldoon

If you only think you have it, do you have trait inductance?

Posted by: mikeski at November 17, 2022 12:35 PM (P1f+c)

229 215 If the narrative settles into Trump vs NeverTrump and their assorted hopes to stop Trump, Trump wins easily. That's where the contest is heading at the moment.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (eYoxG)

========

I've been calling that for a couple of years.

Trump seems to not have gobbled up all of the rightist donors right now, but he's going to get enough commitments so that any MAGA friendly candidate not named Ron DeSantis won't get the kind of money or attention to effectively be a pro-MAGA candidate in a race against King MAGA himself.

That leaves the GOPe desperately bringing in Trump killer after Trump killer. By June, they'll throw $50 million at Liz Cheney in one weekend just to see if it works.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:35 PM (LvTSG)

230 I have more respect for some of the people who shot at me than a lot of these Republicans. At least they had conviction and a set of balls.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:35 PM (ifHdv)

231 They would have been pressured to stop supporting him in March of 2015, when the whole world screamed "you can't support this racist" at them.
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It's stuff like this that made me not gaf about "mean tweets", as there is nothing worse than calling someone a racist, nazi (mass murderer) or rapist. Everything else is absolute nothing.

Is it Trump who wants to eliminate "useless eaters", no that's WEF's Harari.

Is it Trump who thinks watched people are compliant people? Nope Schwabbie.

Is it Trump who talks about all the great things technology can do for mankind but always follows up with "or it can be used by the state to control"? Nope, Klaus again. But it Klaus's work is referenced as something we are preparing for on the WH website, and those people love state control

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 12:36 PM (Zzbjj)

232 Asa got the Memo!

*whispery voiceover*

The Democrat talking points word for November is :

"chaos"

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2022 12:36 PM (ykeLU)

233 227 tI don't want to be your prison bitch

Sounds like a lyric to a song.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 12:35 PM (Zz0t1)

Think Foo Fighters, "Monkey Wrench"

Posted by: Try getting THAT out of your head at November 17, 2022 12:36 PM (pLSJi)

234 I've never said you were a faker, Ace. I sincerely do not believe you are.
But I have a vague memory-impression that you were more of a Cruz fan and were never really won over by Trump. - That Trump was more of a noisome default alternative for you. Which would explain why you're so eager to jettison him now.
Maybe I'm wrong.

Posted by: Bach in Black at November 17, 2022 12:36 PM (7ubmG)

235 I think we all see the world the way we'd like it to be.
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:32 PM (C1Zwz)

As Feynman noted, no one is easier to fool than yourself. It's when the experiment returns exactly what you were looking for that you have to double check it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2022 12:36 PM (yQpMk)

236 I don't want to be your prison bitch

Sounds like a lyric to a song.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Leave off the "I" at the start, and it scans to the tune of "Sledgehammer."

Posted by: mikeski at November 17, 2022 12:37 PM (P1f+c)

237 The left are followers desperately seeking social approval. They can't understand being independent and strong.

Posted by: brak at November 17, 2022 12:37 PM (cqa4j)

238 Reactance is also a tendency of inductors and capacitors to resist being forced by alternating current to do shit they don't necessarily want to do.

Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata at November 17, 2022 12:37 PM (24fqN)

239 Rush would have done a melange of talking heads saying "Trump causes chaos" by now.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2022 12:37 PM (ykeLU)

240 Posted by: Lady in Black at November 17, 2022 12:35 PM (sVtYq)

Yeah, Nikki is a WEF girl, so of course they want her for the GOP and WEF boy Newsom for donk. Klaus and Gates win either way.

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 12:37 PM (Zzbjj)

241 ========

Alternate theory: They know GOPe donors are fucking idiots and will throw them seven figures in the next few weeks without question.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey
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That's the ticket, give me the money, let the next generation sort it out.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 17, 2022 12:37 PM (gfCY0)

242 NRO needs to STFU. Agreed.

They need to know that they are more irrelevant than me, and I'm irrelevant. They are actually anti-relevant. The reverse of everything they seek happens and even if they tried some reverse psychology and promoted the opposite of what they seek, the opposite of that would still happen because they are dips who are so lightweight you can see right through them with 20/20 vision.

Posted by: Brian at November 17, 2022 12:37 PM (sOehV)

243 Nancypants is angling for her daughter to take her spot

will do next year

Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2022 12:37 PM (us2H3)

244 Reactance = when a actence goes back and does it again.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2022 12:37 PM (anj39)

245 225 I personally think the real choice of the deep state and the GOP in particular is going to be Nikki Haley. Place your bets.

*throws down a $10*
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 17, 2022 12:35 PM (sVtYq)

Gonna need you to double that, honey.

Posted by: Nikki Haley at November 17, 2022 12:37 PM (/EuRN)

246

People are furious, and the GOP establishment continues to insist that once Trump is gone everything will go back to the way it was before.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

McCains' corpse 2024: An impressive body.....of work

Posted by: GOPe at November 17, 2022 12:38 PM (JTRqZ)

247 162 Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:28 PM (C1Zwz)

We need to win, and we need to have the judgement to do what it takes to win.

I am so tired of winning by losing, let's try winning by winning a while.

I followed your reasoning, and I think it is cogent advice.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2022 12:38 PM (Lzpvj)

248 They'll say "fuck it" and slam their foot down on the accelerator.

LS2, it growls "You don't need that exit".

Posted by: DaveA at November 17, 2022 12:38 PM (FhXTo)

249 235. I don't want the world to be a fucking disaster and going downhill...but I see it that way.

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 12:38 PM (Zzbjj)

250 >>> I've never said you were a faker, Ace. I sincerely do not believe you are.
But I have a vague memory-impression that you were more of a Cruz fan and were never really won over by Trump. - That Trump was more of a noisome default alternative for you. Which would explain why you're so eager to jettison him now.
Maybe I'm wrong.

no that's fair. But I supported him. But I don't want to get into a Quien es mas macho pissing match about who was the more hardcore trump supporter. Obviously it's you. but there are a WHOLE LOT of trump supporters like me, so you can't just blow us off and say "Well you're not hardcore, you don't count."

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:38 PM (C1Zwz)

251 My never-ending amusement MSN newsfeed came up with this gem today: "No, an indictment wouldn’t end Trump’s run for the presidency — he could even campaign or serve from a prison cell" - Marketwatch

Posted by: mrp at November 17, 2022 12:38 PM (6eRlp)

252 National Review has two huge marks against it.

1) Its a magazine, a media left behind by time
2) They did not keep up with conservatism, or even really understand it

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (Ivdso)

253 No, because the play is 'stay the fuck out of the way and let Trump slam his own dick in a drawer and forget the key.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 17, 2022 12:31 PM (IyrhE)

You underestimate people's lack of interest in the details of day to day political fights. Not here. But generally. Only DeSantis and Youngkin fans really care about DeSanctimonius and "sounds like China."

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (JhU5U)

254 Forever true:
Asa Buchanan > Asa Hutchinson

Posted by: SFGoth at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (KAi1n)

255 218 be never DeSantis-ers

Posted by: Piper at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (ZdaMQ)

256 234 Posted by: Bach in Black at November 17, 2022 12:36 PM (7ubmG)

He was a pragmatic Cruz guy who made peace with Trump like a lot of us did.

Trump super fan is as insane to a lot of us as donkey super fan.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (Lzpvj)

257 they'll throw $50 million at Liz Cheney in one weekend just to see if it works.

Any George Mason frat boy could tell you that all you really need is a couple of Long Island iced teas, and a jukebox full of Journey songs.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (wmDcS)

258 Reactance is also a tendency of inductors and capacitors to resist being forced by alternating current to do shit they don't necessarily want to do.
Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata at November 17, 2022 12:37 PM (24fqN)

Ahhh...teenagers.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (anj39)

259 San Francisco Transgender Income Program Includes 97 Gender Options, 19 Sexual Orientations.

97 * 19=1843

Almost 2000 options!!
Posted by: rhennigantx

I'm giving up pronouns entirely end will henceforth be known only by a barcode.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (FVME7)

260 Right wing has been labeled 'reactionaries' forever. I'm fine with it.

Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (24fqN)

261 253 You underestimate people's lack of interest in the details of day to day political fights. Not here. But generally. Only DeSantis and Youngkin fans really care about DeSanctimonius and "sounds like China."
Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (JhU5U)

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How many, "this is the end of politician X" stories have we heard when something slightly embarrassing happens, and that politician is still around?

It's a lot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (LvTSG)

262 "Ace starts to settle in his comfortable, plush seat on the Never Trump Train. While trying to doze off, he is constantly interrupted by the inane babble of the nitwits sitting nearby and the annoying "tap tap tap" of fellow rider Tom Nichols who cannot rest from constantly posting his sick burn tweets. But when David French offers to teach him the secret anti-Trump handshake immediately after spending a good 30 seconds picking his nose, Ace knows he's made a mistake. Without saying a word, he quickly grabs his suitcase from the overhead and with a running leap, escapes from the train, rolls down the hill to freedom."

Posted by: LASue at November 17, 2022 12:40 PM (Ed8Zd)

263 Ace, there's no reason to dislike Trump at this point.
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I didn't "like" Trump when i voted for him in 2016. I had hope that I would like him if he tried to carry through on some of his promises. I started to warm to him when he beat on the press like the rented mules they are. He shook the whole thing up hard once he got in there. He stepped on a lot of mines and they throw everything at him but assassination. He did some fantastic stuff on the economy. He tried to actually build the wall. There was more peace and security and stability to foreign policy. It was a pretty fantastic presidency then they started with the impeachment bullshit which failed a couple times, and then desperately weaponized Fauci. That's how afraid they were of him. There's a lot that can happen but I remember what he did, tried to do, and how they fcuked with him. The whole damn thing was epic. As in Hero's journey. No shit. I get that there is Trump Fatigue. But if you are honest with yourselves, most of that is generated by the media, and only about 10% is Trump own fault. But some of it is indeed his own fault.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 17, 2022 12:40 PM (mHIPB)

264 >>> Reactance (psychology)
Reactance is an unpleasant motivational reaction to offers, persons, rules, or regulations that threaten or eliminate specific behavioral freedoms.

I so have this.

Also: oppositional defiance disorder. You order me to do something, my first guy reaction is eff you, eff off. I've learned to control this in work and family life so I can survive in society. but in politics? No.

Those ordering me for years how to vote, on social media and the press? Made me vote for Trump harder. Because eff them.

I don't know who I support yet for 2024, but I'm not dumping either Desantis or trump yet. Because the media is ordering me to choose sides and dump trump, and will intimately tell me to dump Desantis. And eff the media.

Posted by: LizLem at November 17, 2022 12:40 PM (+mkOR)

265 Ace - that was one of your best rants in a long time - and it is up against stiff competition! Bravo! Love the term "reactance".

I am a yuuge Trump supporter and am glad he is running and think his chances are a lot better than many think. But I agree about not picking a fight right now.

DeSantis is great and if nominated I will low-crawl over broken glass to vote for him.

I think that if the GOPe tries to make DeSantis the de facto nominee and successfuly sabotages Trump then 2024 will be a bad year for us. But I am still strangely optimistic right now. We will see.

FYI - started reading this blog in 2006 right before I went to war last time. Rarely a day has gone by that I haven't viewed it. Never change and please never die!

Posted by: LTC Graham at November 17, 2022 12:40 PM (HFHRa)

266 Which would explain why you're so eager to jettison him now.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Posted by: Bach in Black at November 17, 2022 12:36 PM (7ubmG)

I can't speak to anyone's personal motivations, but I think there were two species of "Trump supporter":

-People who saw him wrecking shit up and said "weeeee, neat!"
-People who saw him wrecking shit up and said "I mean, he's a douche and a tool, but, weeeee, neat!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 12:40 PM (/EuRN)

267 Nancypants is angling for her daughter to take her spot
will do next year
Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2022 12:37 PM (us2H3)

Yep, take a little time assure her kid is set up to win a special election.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 17, 2022 12:40 PM (qH6FZ)

268 Hutchinson forgets that Trump became popular in the first place because we loathed people like him. Then once elected, Trump actually delivered on his promises.

I think if the GOPe wants to make it Trump versus them, they're in for a big surprise. Combined with the next year which will be more hell for the American people, it's going to get interesting.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:40 PM (ifHdv)

269 McCains' corpse 2024: An impressive body.....of work
Posted by: GOPe at November 17, 2022 12:38 PM (JTRqZ)

How much do you want to bet that there were plans to shove his fat daughter into his vacated seat?

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 17, 2022 12:40 PM (wmDcS)

270 get into a Quien es mas macho pissing match

PPV cage match, Chuy?

Posted by: Beto at November 17, 2022 12:41 PM (a3Q+t)

271 I guess the idea that Trump is gonna be indicted has gone kaput

Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2022 12:41 PM (us2H3)

272 What this election cycle is gonna need is a new version of Q.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 17, 2022 12:41 PM (JMPQm)

273 271 I guess the idea that Trump is gonna be indicted has gone kaput
Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2022 12:41 PM (us2H3)

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I was assured that he'd be in jail and executed by February...of 2017.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:41 PM (LvTSG)

274 Anyone seen Mark A. Edwards around, lately?
Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (MaJGV)

Let me check

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 12:41 PM (V6f9+)

275 That leaves the GOPe desperately bringing in Trump killer after Trump killer. By June, they'll throw $50 million at Liz Cheney in one weekend just to see if it works.

Hmmmm, how about Bob Dole? SHit, he's gone green, and not that way.

Howz about Collins, cokebear, Haley and a cauldron?

Posted by: GOPe at November 17, 2022 12:41 PM (JTRqZ)

276 >>>Ultimately Ace is correct that Trump needs to be supported again because we must keep pushing forward instead of retreating back to the culture war bullshit the elites use as a mask to cover their real agenda.

i didn't say that. I said the opposite of that

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:28 PM (C1Zwz)

Forget it. He's rolling.

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (JhU5U)

277 272 What this election cycle is gonna need is a new version of Q.
Posted by: TexasDan at November 17, 2022 12:41 PM (JMPQm)

=========

John De Lancie was always the best Q.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (LvTSG)

278 This column is beautiful. Thank you.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (wscPk)

279 Asa, !Jeb, Mittels Rombley, and Eggs McNuthin - a Congress of Failure.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (B7+xN)

280 Hutchinson was GWB's loser, worthless Border Czar ... so he's got that going for him.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (K3TEc)

281 I was a Walker fan then Cruz... When Trump got the nod I voted for him and will do it again if he gets the nomination

Posted by: It's me donna at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (bs+z0)

282 Oh, I remember when drumpf would never clear the 3% hurdle. I remember when he would never be the nominee. I remember when he would never win the presidency.

I also remember when us drumpf supporters were called "branch trumpidians" I also remember....

What evs.

Predictions and opinions were worthless back when I remembered and they have the same value now.

Unless cruz really is finishing up his second term as potus, like I some here said back when I remembered.

Pepperidge Farms would not endorse this comment.

Those bastards.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (1DgE4)

283 What do you do with a problem like Maria?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

The rain is Tess,
The fire Joe
And they call the wind Mar....

oh...shit.
Nevermind.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (anj39)

284 Asa was only tolerated in Arkansas.

He couldn't win a primary in his own state.

He's running a vanity campaign to suck money from...whom? No one in Arkansas is going to donate to him. That money is going to Trump and/or DeSantis.

Posted by: Shenanigans at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (qDLvN)

285 If Hutchinson's already throwing his hat into the ring, we're probably going to have a record setting amount of grifting Also-rans

********

The 500 Hats of Bartholomew Hutchinson (R-Ark)

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (ykeLU)

286 Asa Buchanan > Asa Hutchinson
Posted by: SFGoth at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (KAi1n)

OLTL or GTFO.

(oh, just kidding, I liked GH too)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (/EuRN)

287 275 Hmmmm, how about Bob Dole? SHit, he's gone green, and not that way.

Howz about Collins, cokebear, Haley and a cauldron?
Posted by: GOPe at November 17, 2022 12:41 PM (JTRqZ)

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They'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel when we get the Adam Kitzinger front page spread at National Review in August.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (LvTSG)

288 Is someone NeverTrump if they will consider other candidates? I have never bought that Trump and Trump alone can save the world.

I like Trump, and will vote for him if he is the nominee. I am undecided who I will support in the primary, though its a short list of possibilities.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (T6NRc)

289 Anyone seen Mark A. Edwards around, lately?
Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2022 12:33 PM (MaJGV)

Let me check

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 12:41 PM (V6f9+)

I'm glad that guy's gone. He made my kid cry.

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (JhU5U)

290 161 Maria
I just met a girl named Maria.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 17, 2022 12:14 PM (AiZBA)

She sounds like a flibbertigibbet.
Posted by: spindrift at November 17, 2022 12:28 PM (h5TKJ)

That's not my Maria...

Posted by: B. W. Stevenson at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (CCSxw)

291 Although I think DeSantis is a better candidate than Trump, I'm not pushing it.

1. We don't really have to have this fight unless and until Desantis says he's running, and he hasn't. 2. I'm not sure I want him to run because we need effective GOP governors, and right now we have Desantis and not too many others. 3. But if Desantis runs, he'd have my vote too for a variety of reasons.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (ppBhU)

292 How many, "this is the end of politician X" stories have we heard when something slightly embarrassing happens, and that politician is still around?

It's a lot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (LvTSG)

I think Bobby Jindal has suffered enough.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (JMPQm)

293 He's running a vanity campaign to suck money from...whom? No one in Arkansas is going to donate to him. That money is going to Trump and/or DeSantis.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (qDLvN)

it's money laundering. That money wasn't "going" anywhere but his pockets.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (/EuRN)

294 291 Although I think DeSantis is a better candidate than Trump, I'm not pushing it.

1. We don't really have to have this fight unless and until Desantis says he's running, and he hasn't. 2. I'm not sure I want him to run because we need effective GOP governors, and right now we have Desantis and not too many others. 3. But if Desantis runs, he'd have my vote too for a variety of reasons.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (ppBhU)

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You're right. Instead we should fight about who was the best short stop of all time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (LvTSG)

295 Entertaining, informative and based. Thanks Ace!

Posted by: AK at work at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (o+IHV)

296 Is someone NeverTrump if they will consider other candidates? I have never bought that Trump and Trump alone can save the world.

No. "Never Trump" mean just that, "I will never vote for Trump." That's different than, "I have other candidates whom I prefer more than Trump" which is a perfectly reasonable stance to take.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (wmDcS)

297 94 And Ace is right, everything the McFailure wing is doing is to separate Trump from his supporters. They are afraid of anyone who might be uncontrollable, or Conservative or both, in their worst-case.

There are a LOT of people supposedly on the Right who are carrying water for the McFailure wing and it makes me sad/angry.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water
------------------

They are deceptive bitches.
How many people did Trump go through that, originally, we thought were solid?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 17, 2022 12:44 PM (gfCY0)

298 I'm sure Hutchinson's principled objection to Trump has nothing to do with the fact that Trump refused to pardon his nephew over his conviction on bribery and tax fraud charges.

He's just too principled for that.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2022 12:44 PM (ZLI7S)

299 branch trumpidians....

Bet the FBI came up with that one.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at November 17, 2022 12:44 PM (sI15f)

300 I guess the idea that Trump is gonna be indicted has gone kaput

It was all nonsense from the beginning, even the members of the J6 committee said that it was never going to happen. It was always kabuki, the raid was illegal and the entire thing is a scam

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:44 PM (Ivdso)

301 Re: Trump vs The World. I'm not going to fret about it until primary day. And not much even then.

Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata at November 17, 2022 12:44 PM (24fqN)

302 ! Do you accept Brave Attention Tokens?

What the hell are we supposed to do with those things, anyway? I've been collecting them for a while, but so far haven't give enough of a shit to find out what good they are. If any.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2022 12:08 PM (bW8dp)

Same here. I've amassed a small plethora of the damned things.
Posted by: Count de Monet

What does this mean? I've never heard of this. Can anyone explain?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 17, 2022 12:44 PM (Wy1BU)

303 You're right. Instead we should fight about who was the best short stop of all time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (LvTSG)

Is there any doubt?

Posted by: Ozzy Smith at November 17, 2022 12:45 PM (yQpMk)

304 277 272 What this election cycle is gonna need is a new version of Q.
Posted by: TexasDan at November 17, 2022 12:41 PM (JMPQm)

=========

John De Lancie was always the best Q.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (LvTSG)

I meant QAnon, but I failed.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 17, 2022 12:45 PM (JMPQm)

305 Tom Nichols is fat and totally uncool

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 17, 2022 12:45 PM (iFTx/)

306 Instead we should fight about who was the best short stop of all time.

I don't follow soccer.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 17, 2022 12:45 PM (ppBhU)

307 I am a yuuge Trump supporter and am glad he is running and think his chances are a lot better than many think. But I agree about not picking a fight right now.

DeSantis is great and if nominated I will low-crawl over broken glass to vote for him.

I think that if the GOPe tries to make DeSantis the de facto nominee and successfuly sabotages Trump then 2024 will be a bad year for us. But I am still strangely optimistic right now. We will see.

DeSantis is smart enough to see who is against Trump, and the quality of any 'support' that he would get from GOPe. He can follow the exploits of cokebear better than we.

He would be their spoiler against Trump, not their champion. What is mitch the bitch going to say to him? I'll support you, the GOP candidate as well as the one in Alaska?

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 17, 2022 12:45 PM (JTRqZ)

308 I'm glad that guy's gone. He made my kid cry.
Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (JhU5U)

That monster. I hate him too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 12:45 PM (V6f9+)

309 Forever true:
Asa Buchanan > Asa Hutchinson
Posted by: SFGoth at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (KAi1n)

Asa Spades > Asa Bass > Asa Buchanan > Asa Hutchinson

Posted by: Doof at November 17, 2022 12:46 PM (ChAEn)

310 it's money laundering. That money wasn't "going" anywhere but his pockets.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (/EuRN)

He should just take a book deal, like I did. I'm even going to the NYT DealBook conference this month! On stage with Zuck and SBG! And the CEO of TikTok. And what conference would be complete without Zelensky??

Posted by: Mike Pence is rather dense. at November 17, 2022 12:46 PM (Zzbjj)

311 Before we choose a candidate I propose duels among hte contenders; survivor wins the nomination

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 12:46 PM (7hBFV)

312 You're right. Instead we should fight about who was the best short stop of all time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM

Lawrence Peter Berra is the most philosophical catcher of all time.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2022 12:46 PM (a3Q+t)

313 Cut it, Maria. Show me some of that Spanish dancing.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:46 PM (ifHdv)

314 i agree with almost all of 263 except I did actually like Trump by the time of the election. It's good to be reminded of all the good he did -- huge good. I forget that sometimes, because I have grown so exhausted with the endless me-me-me drama of it all.

I do think that Trump brings on a lot more of his trouble than we admit. His phone call to Ukraine was not "perfect." He has said -- correct me if I'm wrong -- that he wants a re-vote of 2020 or to just be installed as president. obviously there is no mechanism for that. that is absurd. I do not doubt that he was cheated, both practically and cosmically, but his *asks* have to be realistic, or people tune the fuck out. Realistic asks are about specific reforms, not just about complaining about what happened in 2020 and then suggesting that maybe we should just sort of put him in the White House using an unknown legal mechanism to do so.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:46 PM (C1Zwz)

315 Meanwhile has Poland invoked Article 5 and nuked Ukraine yet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 17, 2022 12:46 PM (B7+xN)

316 Well said, ace, all of it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 17, 2022 12:46 PM (p+1gI)

317 What do you do with a problem like Maria?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

What kind of a movie guy are you? It is ~ How do you solve a problem like Maria? Do you not hear it in your head?

Posted by: AK at work at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (o+IHV)

318 >>> I'm giving up pronouns entirely end will henceforth be known only by a barcode.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 17, 2022 12:39 PM (FVME7)

Prince was ahead of his time.

Posted by: LizLem at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (+mkOR)

319 He should just take a book deal, like I did. I'm even going to the NYT DealBook conference this month! On stage with Zuck and SBG! And the CEO of TikTok. And what conference would be complete without Zelensky??
Posted by: Mike Pence is rather dense. at November 17, 2022 12:46 PM (Zzbjj)

... where's Diogenes? I'mma need the link for that nuke-map he's always playing...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (/EuRN)

320 Excellent post. Very well balanced.

I think they are hoping to set up a collision between Trump and Desantis so one of their lizard people can slip through when they knock each other out.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (kVHiw)

321 Mark Andrew Edwards: History's Greatest Monster

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (yQpMk)

322 Is there any doubt?
Posted by: Ozzy Smith at November 17, 2022 12:45 PM (yQpMk)

Alan Trammell !!!...!!!!

Posted by: mrp at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (6eRlp)

323
I just get tired of having to defend so much. It's like having a big bruising fullback who pounds the ball upfield and scores lots of touchdowns and breaks tackles left and right... but who also fumbles constantly. At some point, you have to ask: Are the yards and points worth all the fumbles?

add to this that trump is in fact unpopular, and IS a drag on the ticket, and is just a huge lift to get elected. I just don't think we can elect him.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (C1Zwz)

324 Mah -reeeeee- ahhhhhh ahhhh ahhhh ahhhhh ahhhhh ahhh...

Thanks for the earworm.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (sI15f)

325 That monster. I hate him too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 12:45 PM (V6f9+)

lol

In fairness, Nurse did, too, and he needs toughening up.

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (JhU5U)

326 315 Meanwhile has Poland invoked Article 5 and nuked Ukraine yet?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 17, 2022 12:46 PM (B7+xN)

That would solve a lot

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (Zzbjj)

327 IMHO I think Governor DeSantis should hold off putting his hat in the ring for 2024. He just won re-election and can use the time to solidify Florida as a Red State. Bide his time and I can see him as a solid candidate for 2028.

Of course President Trump can come to his senses and do what he can to make DeSantis his running mate.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (4q/mG)

328 thank you, beckoningchasm!

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (C1Zwz)

329 317 What kind of a movie guy are you? It is ~ How do you solve a problem like Maria? Do you not hear it in your head?
Posted by: AK at work at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (o+IHV)

=========

I have only seen The Sound of Music one time.

I would not make William Shatner's list.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (LvTSG)

330 add to this that trump is in fact unpopular, and IS a drag on the ticket, and is just a huge lift to get elected. I just don't think we can elect him.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (C1Zwz)

This is also where I am with it.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (sI15f)

331 I happen to be simpatico (I think) with Ace's reasoning here. I know in my head that Trump can't win as he's been too dirtied up, and it's not fair and blah, blah, blah....

But then I see the likes of NR grab a stick and get out in front of the band and pretend that they're the drum major, and I'm like, yeah, up yours, pal.....
==
at the end of the day the GOPe doesn't really want to win and Trump does. He worked his ass off campaigning. Admittedly he has his own plan which helps. But if you think Jeb! was going to fly to 4 or 5 rallys a day for a solid month you'd better think again.

Trump wants to win AND he wants to change the status quo. Its not a grift. That much is undebatable at this point.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (vu383)

332 Finally and investigation into that corrupt old bag of bones id starting.....

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (B/7uq)

333 This post encapsulates why I love this place.

Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (3wNhr)

334 Silky Pony > Beta-off O'Rourke.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (B7+xN)

335 All of this trump vs Desantis talk is pointless unless you clean me up before 2024...

Posted by: Voter rolls in Arizona, Pennsylvania, Georgia, who else am I forgetting at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (+mkOR)

336 Meanwhile has Poland invoked Article 5 and nuked Ukraine yet?
Posted by: Anna Puma
__

Nah.

NATO went all, "Ooops, my bad. It was a Uke missile. But still Russia's fault, yaddayaddayadda."

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (JvHea)

337 I despise the GOP, especially after the midterms. That said, I'll vote for Trump or DeSantis is they are the nominee. If it's some RINO clown, no way.

I'd like to see Trump burn it all down, but the problem is the GOP and the Dems will stifle DeSantis at every turn as well.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (d2bW3)

338 I just hope Liz Cheney runs for president so we can watch Trump push her buttons.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (dqV58)

339 add to this that trump is in fact unpopular, and IS a drag on the ticket, and is just a huge lift to get elected. I just don't think we can elect him.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (C1Zwz)

Depends what happens in 2023.

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (Zzbjj)

340 Holy poop, Ace...
That was pretty awesome.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (53oGX)

341 "I don't want to be your prison bitch the same way you don't want to be mine"

Can I be your prison butler?

Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (24fqN)

342 >>>305 Tom Nichols is fat and totally uncool

can confirm

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (C1Zwz)

343 Uncle Joe was mighty proud of his "Black Marias". They even made 3 am house calls.

Posted by: mrp at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (6eRlp)

344 @291

>>I'm not sure I want him to run because we need effective GOP governors, and right now we have Desantis and not too many others.

We have exactly 1-1/2 competent GOP Governors, DeSantis and Abbot.

Lake would have been an excellent Governor, sadly those Donk ballots being found in every seat cushion, Buick and hidey hole they could beat them out of, did her in.

DeSantis should stay being Governor of Florida.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (up/3i)

345 The GOP platform should start with plank One:

"The entire FBI shall immediately be dispatched to the southern border, there to be put under the command of the Texas and Arizona National Guards. New Mexico and California can also participate if voters elect Republican governors whom the rest of the nation can trust."

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (7hBFV)

346 Excellent post. Very well balanced.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (kVHiw)

I'll have to read it later.

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (JhU5U)

347 I find it very unlikely that I will support anyone that the GOPe supports.

Posted by: AK at work at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (o+IHV)

348 Take a letter, Maria...

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (ykeLU)

349 332 Finally and investigation into that corrupt old bag of bones id starting.....
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (B/7uq)

==========

The media will ignore it, and the DOJ will refuse to take any action.

The conservative media will be all over it like it'll change anyone's mind, but its reach will be so limited as to not actually influence anyone not already steeped in the conservative media bubble.

It's going to end up a wet fart. Don't get your hopes up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (LvTSG)

350 I love "delusionary," I but see it as more of a noun. Like "visionary."

"He's a delusionary leader" or "He has delusionary ambitions."

Joe Biden is a delusionary!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (t0OGg)

351 How does Biden survive once the investigations get deep into the meat of Biden's corruption ???

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (B/7uq)

352 And while there are growing numbers of Republicans who want to go a different direction in 2024 for practical reasons (i.e. they want to win)

They want to win, but they don't want to clean up election shenanigans. Under those circumstances, they won't win unless they put up a candidate approved by the Deep State. And even then, the Deep State might only go along with a Republican candidate if they are planning on positioning the R to take the blame for disastrous Deep State policies.

Posted by: Emmie at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (Emce2)

353 So essentially we have to beat the Democrats [cheaters, sociopaths and increasingly mindless automatons], and we have to do it with a political party full of narcissistic midwits and backstabbers. Not a pretty picture.

And it is certainly LOL to see guys like Hogan criticize Trump as a narcissist, etc. Talk about delusions of grandeur.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (C48x4)

354 >Instead we should fight about who was the best short stop of all time.

Ed Brinkman

Posted by: DB at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (geLO8)

355 People forget I was the worst shortstop ever. It's i go ow I ended up in the outfield.

Posted by: Mickey Mantel at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (ifHdv)

356 I'm the same way about Olive Garden. I never much cared for the place until all these pompous midwits started telling me I was some kind of mouth breather for eating there. Now I go there once a quarter or so. It's OK, and it pisses off all the right people.

Posted by: Wally at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (nNnOk)

357 What kind of a movie guy are you?
Posted by: AK at work at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM

To be fair, he's been yclept That Prometheus Guy, not That Movie Guy. Don't put so much pressure on him.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (a3Q+t)

358 I'm giving up pronouns entirely end will henceforth be known only by a barcode.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Prince was ahead of his time.
Posted by: LizLem

Bob Dole was also in favor of doing away with pronouns.

Posted by: zombie Bob Dole at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (P1f+c)

359 thank you, AK!

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (C1Zwz)

360 "I don't want to be your prison bitch the same way you don't want to be mine."

Let's not be hasty, gentleman. I'm keeping an open mind.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (ppBhU)

361 This busty blonde in a one-piece has no delusions - she knows Hutchinson is just looking for some sweet, sweet Wal-Mart cash to launder out to family members that have "media companies:"
https://is.gd/6CWsY0

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (t0OGg)

362 NATO went all, "Ooops, my bad. It was a Uke missile. But still Russia's fault, yaddayaddayadda."
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (JvHea)
====================
But, then, didn't Ukraine deny it was theirs?

It's a Mystery Missile.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (7hBFV)

363 "How does Biden survive once the investigations get deep into the meat of Biden's corruption ???"

Same way he survives extensive video of him fondling little kids.

Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (24fqN)

364 NYT reports that the #2 guy in the Oathkeepers was FBI

was supposed to testify but had a heart attack that day

those fuckers

Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (us2H3)

365 352 They want to win, but they don't want to clean up election shenanigans. Under those circumstances, they won't win unless they put up a candidate approved by the Deep State. And even then, the Deep State might only go along with a Republican candidate if they are planning on positioning the R to take the blame for disastrous Deep State policies.
Posted by: Emmie at November 17, 2022 12:49 PM (Emce2)

==========

If the cleaning up of elections isn't going to happen in the next two years, then there's still no reason to cede the party to NT, giving them time to retrench and regain control of more of the party apparatuses that they've lost for a time.

It's a great time to push even harder, winning the fights we can.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (LvTSG)

366 I think the plan of the GOPe and NT and liberals (but I repeat myself) is clear: they want Trump gone (duh) because they can't control him and he's an existential threat to the GOPe. They are pushing DeathSantis only so far as it helps them get rid of Trump. They aren't sure if they can control or capture DS. If they can't, then suddenly they will turn on him with at least the ferocity they did on Trump.

There can be no peace with these GOPe and NT pricks. No common ground. No co-existence. It's either them or us. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (iFTx/)

367 I don't want to be your prison bitch

*******

Fair enough. I'LL never be YOUR beast of burden...

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (ykeLU)

368 351. Hahahaha…oh boy. You are kidding, right? As if this will even be allowed or the media will cover it.

Posted by: Piper at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (ZdaMQ)

369 add to this that trump is in fact unpopular, and IS a drag on the ticket, and is just a huge lift to get elected. I just don't think we can elect him.

Posted by: ace

I am wondering if anyone not of the uniparty could be.

They don't want DeSantis to win; they want him to block Trump. They will not support a viable candidacy. They need sacrificial lambs, and the first ones appearing are the ones that will raise money and flame out and cash in.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (JTRqZ)

370 284 Asa was only tolerated in Arkansas.

He couldn't win a primary in his own state.

He's running a vanity campaign to suck money from...whom? No one in Arkansas is going to donate to him. That money is going to Trump and/or DeSantis.

Posted by: Shenanigans at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (qDLvN)

"Folks, you can get your authorized "Asa for President!" t-shirts, sweaters, hats, and socks at your local Wal-Mart! Now let me address the vicious rumor that the money from merchandise sales at Wal-Mart goes to me. False, False, False! Only 90 percent goes directly into my bank account! My Presidential Campaign gets 10 percent! So, can I count on your vote in 2024?"

Posted by: Asa Hutchinson at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (AMIL/)

371 This busty blonde in a one-piece has no delusions - she knows Hutchinson is just looking for some sweet, sweet Wal-Mart cash to launder out to family members that have "media companies:"
https://is.gd/6CWsY0
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (t0OGg)
=================
Good golly, Miss Molly

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (7hBFV)

372 As Feynman noted, no one is easier to fool than yourself. It's when the experiment returns exactly what you were looking for that you have to double check it.
Posted by: G'rump928
--------

This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: Fleischmann and Pons at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (1O1T3)

373 Take a letter Maria
Address it to my wife
Tell her she's a cheating hoe
I'm gonna ruin her life

Posted by: R.B. Greaves at November 17, 2022 12:52 PM (pLSJi)

374 The delusion itself is delusionary. The person having the delusion is delusional.

Son of a whore, now i'm dead certain that those are all spelled wrong.

Crap.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 12:52 PM (/EuRN)

375 Keep in mind that Democrats want to run against Trump. Think about- why? It's why they are allegedly backing off some of the things they had planned that would potentially keep him from running.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:52 PM (ifHdv)

376 363 "How does Biden survive once the investigations get deep into the meat of Biden's corruption ???"

Same way he survives extensive video of him fondling little kids.
Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (24fqN)

=========

People thinking that Republican run congressional committee hearings will damage...at all...sitting Democratic members of the government flabbergasts me.

Have these people not been paying ANY attention over the past 15 years?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:52 PM (LvTSG)

377 It's not so much about directly pressuring voters, it's about the veneer and atmosphere of negativity they must constantly swirl around Trump, which is supposed to itself scare and repulse people. If they didn't manufacture it, then Trump would control the message and story with pinpoint accuracy, and that is ultimately what they are fighting against.

Posted by: ... at November 17, 2022 12:52 PM (AveMB)

378 If you only think you have it, do you have trait inductance?
Posted by: mikeski at November 17, 2022 12:35 PM (P1f+c)
-------
Don't ask about resistance or capacitance.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (ykBBE)

379 371 This busty blonde in a one-piece has no delusions - she knows Hutchinson is just looking for some sweet, sweet Wal-Mart cash to launder out to family members that have "media companies:"
https://is.gd/6CWsY0
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (t0OGg)
=================
Good golly, Miss Molly
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (7hBFV)

She sure likes to ball?
#GoodNews

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (V6f9+)

380 NYT reports that the #2 guy in the Oathkeepers was FBI

was supposed to testify but had a heart attack that day

those fuckers
Posted by: REDACTED

They are releasing this shit now, prior to the House changing in January.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (JTRqZ)

381 Nancy Peolosi and Mitch McConnell can't live forever. . . . Can they ??

Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (dqV58)

382 Posted by: Blue Hen at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (JTRqZ)

McConnell is unpopular, a disaster, and the GOP just threw their arms around him and wept with joy to be under his thumb.

How come "unpopular" only works with Trump, the populist leader?

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (Zzbjj)

383 >>Realistic asks are about specific reforms, not just about complaining about what happened in 2020 and then suggesting that maybe we should just sort of put him in the White House using an unknown legal mechanism to do so.

I think the mistake people make when evaluating Trump is to take everything he says literally. He's a promoter at heart, a New Yawk real estate developer. Everything he has done his entire life as been the best thing ever! That's just how he rolls.

Now you might not like his style and that's fair. I find it a bit irritating and over the top at times but I try to remember he's not always being literal, he's driving narratives. And it works.

I don't think he's thought he was going to overturn the election since Jan 6th but he also thought election integrity is the single biggest issue in American politics today and he is right. Look at where we are and now everyone is talking about it.

Trump delivered on what he promised more than any president in my lifetime. I can live with the PT Barnum stuff even if I don't love it.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (ZLI7S)

384
add to this that trump is in fact unpopular, and IS a drag on the ticket, and is just a huge lift to get elected. I just don't think we can elect him.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (C1Zwz)

This is something we disagree on.

In 2016 Trump put up very typical R numbers, but had a better voter distribution as he lost with some ordinary R voters and brought on others.

In 2020 Trump put up very strong R numbers as most of those people who didn't vote for him in 2016 did in 2020, and he got lots of crossover as people realized he wasn't the Nazi etc. the media was calling him.

If he was unpopular 2020 would've been a slaughter for Rs.

Additionally he has next to no impact either way in mid-terms (similar to Obama).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (eYoxG)

385 This is about us, isn't it?
Posted by: Fleischmann and Pons
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I hope so.

Posted by: Felisa Wolfe-Simon at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (1O1T3)

386 This busty blonde in a one-piece has no delusions - she knows Hutchinson is just looking for some sweet, sweet Wal-Mart cash to launder out to family members that have "media companies:"
https://is.gd/6CWsY0

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (t0OGg)

Yum. Eligible for floundercare.

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (JhU5U)

387 @363

>>Same way he survives extensive video of him fondling little kids.

Or his daughters diary saying she showered with her father or him being on tape bragging about getting a prosecutor fired or he would withhold a billion dollars in aid, or serially lying on and hourly basis about everything from his biography, his families biographies or simply just making up fantastical bullshit stories...

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (up/3i)

388 Don't ask about resistance or capacitance.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (ykBBE

Ohm my God, not this nonsense.

Posted by: The puns are positively electric at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (pLSJi)

389 Ed Brinkman
Posted by: DB at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (geLO

Steady Eddie. Best fielding shortstop in the game.

Posted by: mrp at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (6eRlp)

390 >>> Without saying a word, he quickly grabs his suitcase from the overhead and with a running leap, escapes from the train, rolls down the hill to freedom."

Posted by: LASue
------------------

heh

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (gfCY0)

391 Excellent point, Ace @ comment#250.
I am indeed a hardcore Trump supporter. I was originally pro-Cruz. But after a couple of debates and speeches, (and quite to my surprise) Trump utterly won me over.

[By the way, Ace, for some reason the response time when I type comments in the comments field is extremely slow and staggered. Don't know whether any body else is having a similar problem. Just thought you should know.]

Posted by: Bach in Black at November 17, 2022 12:54 PM (7ubmG)

392 No Br'er Trump, don' trow me in dat der briar patch!!

Posted by: Will Power at November 17, 2022 12:54 PM (ez9rS)

393 >>>It's going to end up a wet fart. Don't get your hopes up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Agreed. How many times were we told the walls are closing and literally nothing happens?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 17, 2022 12:54 PM (d2bW3)

394 Wait wait wait wait wait -- you're blowing my fucking mind here, Wikipedia. Are you telling me that when you heavily pressure people to conform to a position, they sometimes not only refuse to conform, but in fact harden in their adherence to the exact opposite position?
++++
If they're making a rational play - and I don't think they are - they are counting on a couple years' worth of dictatorial compliance to have softened up the population to the point that the people who are now stony in their opposition (a part of which is support for Trump) are a distinct minority that can be "managed" out of the system.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 12:54 PM (t0OGg)

395 add to this that trump is in fact unpopular, and IS a drag on the ticket, and is just a huge lift to get elected. I just don't think we can elect him.
==
I think even if you are right which I would debate, this is not an argument in favor of anyone else. Its the same choice as in 2016. Which one of these other guys is viable. Desantis may be, and I may vote for him, but I'mma have to see some primary showings in various other states that cement the notion that Desantis is someone who can turn out voters or that Trump no longer can. If Desantis can't, then he can't win either. If he can, he might be a viable alternative. I think he grows into a formidable successor, if he plays his cards right. I hope he does. I hope he doesn't take the bait and literally get hooked by the GOPe.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 17, 2022 12:54 PM (NoAOK)

396 >>> I can't speak to anyone's personal motivations, but I think there were two species of "Trump supporter":

-People who saw him wrecking shit up and said "weeeee, neat!"
-People who saw him wrecking shit up and said "I mean, he's a douche and a tool, but, weeeee, neat!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 12:40 PM (/EuRN)

A lot of people saw Trump as unpredictable and liked that as a counter to the Democrat unstoppable juggernaut. But he was not unpredictable just very different. He is I believe very predictable and our enemies are getting better at manipulating him. DethSanta is more inscrutable which people might also see as an advantage. But that's just as likely to fail too. We're all still grasping for things based on the flimsiest of evidence. But we have no better than a fool's hope.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2022 12:54 PM (PY/t0)

397 thank you, AK!
Posted by: ace

*tilts head, smiles* You're welcome boss

Posted by: AK at work at November 17, 2022 12:54 PM (o+IHV)

398 I just hope Liz Cheney runs for president so we can watch Trump push her buttons.
Posted by: Sphynx

I'll be needing an eleven-foot pole.

Posted by: D. Trump at November 17, 2022 12:54 PM (P1f+c)

399 oooooh .... hot off the presses.

Pelosi just announced she won't seek the Democrat leadership slot in the House next year.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2022 12:54 PM (ZLI7S)

400 I think Hutchinson knows that [he can only help Trump]. I also think Larry Hogan knows that. That they are signaling a willingness to jump into the fray anyway (and I think both will), having no base of support, shows how maniacal their egos are. They;d rather see Republicans lose the general election in 2024 than exit the spotlight and let real conservatives figure things out.
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Well, that and get rich by campaigning.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 12:54 PM (t0OGg)

401 Mah -reeeeee- ahhhhhh ahhhh ahhhh ahhhhh ahhhhh ahhh...

Thanks for the earworm.
Posted by: Miss Issippi

I flashed back to a dial up modem.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (tfjlC)

402 Trump delivered on what he promised more than any president in my lifetime. I can live with the PT Barnum stuff even if I don't love it.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (ZLI7S)

Yep.

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (JhU5U)

403 I just hope Liz Cheney runs for president so we can watch Trump push her buttons.
Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2022 12:48 PM (dqV5

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She's so obsessed and annoying that Trump wouldn't have to say anything at all. Just let her talk, and eventually he'll get every single vote.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (7hBFV)

404 add to this that trump is in fact unpopular, and IS a drag on the ticket, and is just a huge lift to get elected. I just don't think we can elect him.

Posted by: ace

It's all bullshit. So there's no point explaining or feel compelled to say anything.

Besides either Trump or the GOPe will fuck up bigly before the election and it won't matter. My money's on Trump fucking himself into a corner.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (IyrhE)

405 comment not found

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (LvTSG)

406 402. Count me in.

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (Zzbjj)

407 Hutchinson? I'm old enough to remember someone with that same last name testifying against Trump to the J6 Committee. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, although it's impossible to know... since there is literally no background information on her available on the internet.

Posted by: Mark at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (yqHNg)

408 Why does National Review think that leftward social pressure will work?
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Because they look around their offices and look back across their own institutional and personal histories and know that it worked on *them.*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (t0OGg)

409 322 Is there any doubt?
Posted by: Ozzy Smith at November 17, 2022 12:45 PM (yQpMk)

Alan Trammell !!!...!!!!
Posted by: mrp at November 17, 2022 12:47 PM (6eRlp)

Bitch pleaz...

Posted by: Omar Vizquel at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (CCSxw)

410 Is there any doubt?
Posted by: Ozzy Smith

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I doubt. Gotta factor hitting.

Posted by: Earnie Banks at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (SIZS3)

411 >>>Pelosi just announced she won't seek the Democrat leadership slot in the House next year.

oh

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (C1Zwz)

412 "They want to win" so they will run a bunch of losers that will drop out after the first state in the primaries.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (5HBd1)

413 add to this that trump is in fact unpopular, and IS a drag on the ticket, and is just a huge lift to get elected. I just don't think we can elect him.

Posted by: ace
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You said the same thing in 2015. Let the race play out if trump doesn't get the nomination he will get out and back the nominee. You labeling him as a drag and unelectable

Posted by: MikeN at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (n3TWS)

414 This busty blonde in a one-piece has no delusions - she knows Hutchinson is just looking for some sweet, sweet Wal-Mart cash to launder out to family members that have "media companies:"
https://is.gd/6CWsY0
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 12:50 PM (t0OGg)

When I think of a sultry come-higher look, it is a lot like this.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (anj39)

415 ace, sweetie, you just need to calm down.

And you should hate Trump with your whole heart or you are not going to belong to the betters of humanity.

Is that how this is supposed to work?

Posted by: blaster at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (pwExq)

416 Posted by: Blue Hen at November 17, 2022 12:51 PM (JTRqZ)

McConnell is unpopular, a disaster, and the GOP just threw their arms around him and wept with joy to be under his thumb.

How come "unpopular" only works with Trump, the populist leader?
Posted by: CN

Same reason biden and clinton are still allowed on any stage. Things like rape or being unpopular only matter wehn power brokers want them to.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (JTRqZ)

417 Because they look around their offices and look back across their own institutional and personal histories and know that it worked on *them.*
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (t0OGg)

I think that was mostly that Persian guy's money

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (Zzbjj)

418
Think Foo Fighters, "Monkey Wrench"
Posted by: Try getting THAT out of your head at November 17, 2022 12:36 PM (pLSJi)

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (Zz0t1)

419 Nancy Peolosi and Mitch McConnell can't live forever. . . . Can they ??
Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM

As long as there's a supply chain, yes.

Posted by: Baby's blood at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (a3Q+t)

420 Besides either Trump or the GOPe will fuck up bigly before the election and it won't matter. My money's on Trump fucking himself into a corner.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (IyrhE)

My money is on stolen election.

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:57 PM (JhU5U)

421 [Also, this is a new computer w/ excellent ethernet connection. And I only encounter this problem when typing in this website's comments field. - FYI]

Posted by: Bach in Black at November 17, 2022 12:57 PM (7ubmG)

422 287 275 Hmmmm, how about Bob Dole? SHit, he's gone green, and not that way.

Howz about Collins, cokebear, Haley and a cauldron?
Posted by: GOPe at November 17, 2022 12:41 PM (JTRqZ)

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They'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel when we get the Adam Kitzinger front page spread at National Review in August.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (LvTSG)
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Could be worse. Could be the Liz Cheney centerfold.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 17, 2022 12:57 PM (TgBWG)

423 "add to this that trump is in fact unpopular, and IS a drag on the ticket,"

After the midterms, I admit I don't know WTF people will vote for, or WTF they do. So I will refrain from assessing political popularity and electability for awhile.

Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata at November 17, 2022 12:57 PM (24fqN)

424 417 Because they look around their offices and look back across their own institutional and personal histories and know that it worked on *them.*
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (t0OGg)

I think that was mostly that Persian guy's money
Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (Zzbjj)

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The one that gets every so slightly richer with every eBay purchase done to avoid giving Bezos money through Amazon?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:57 PM (LvTSG)

425 At TGP

“This Is An Investigation of Joe Biden” – BREAKING: House Republicans Announce Investigation of Joe Biden and Biden Crime Family (VIDEO)
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Tomorrow: BREAKING: DOJ, IRS, FBI, OSHA, EPA, FCC, FTC, ATF, HHS to investigate all House Republicans

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 17, 2022 12:57 PM (YJwUM)

426
405 comment not found
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:55 PM (LvTSG)

HAHAHA.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)

427 The GOP, especially the senate, is determined to stick it to the electorate. That alone is going to make 2024 a heavy lift.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2022 12:57 PM (ifHdv)

428 > Also you can designate to give bat to content providers. The triangle up there will show you if a site takes donations. The hq does not.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2022 12:23 PM (PY/t0)

I'd be willing to give all of mine to Ace, if he can get Pixy to set it up.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2022 12:57 PM (bW8dp)

429 "I'll have to read it later."

Oh, I didn't read it. I meant the way the letters were laid out on the screen. Very feng shui.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 17, 2022 12:58 PM (kVHiw)

430 Pelosi just announced she won't seek the Democrat leadership slot in the House next year.

oh
Posted by: ace

If the stupid party wasn't, theyb would deny her any committee seats, just as she did. She or whomever replaces her and sit and shit.

But again, they are eager to fight trump. not her.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 17, 2022 12:58 PM (JTRqZ)

431 "Why does National Review think that leftward social pressure will work?

Why does Commentary think leftward social pressure will work? Why does the Washington Examiner think leftward social pressure will work?

For the most elemental of all reasons:

Because leftward social pressure always works on them."

Sharp take there.

I wish Trump would start a new political party. I would waste a vote on it because it will be really hard to pull the lever with an "R" beside it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 17, 2022 12:58 PM (kJLpK)

432 Trump's foreign policy accomplishments were astounding: The Abraham Accords, moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, immigration agreement with Mexico, and forcing our NATO allies to increase their defense spending.

Posted by: mrp at November 17, 2022 12:58 PM (6eRlp)

433 Nice rant, ace.

You're not the boss of me.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 17, 2022 12:59 PM (Ja3qS)

434 TJM,

sorry, I didn't know That Prometheus Guy was a sore spot for you.

I'll call you That Coherence Guy.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:59 PM (C1Zwz)

435 "I'll have to read it later."

Oh, I didn't read it. I meant the way the letters were laid out on the screen. Very feng shui.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 17, 2022 12:58 PM (kVHiw)

lol

Posted by: flounder at November 17, 2022 12:59 PM (JhU5U)

436 This has been one of the best "Trump/other" discussions lately, imo.

Ace started with a well balanced post that invited all sides to participate equally and so many great comments and opinions followed.

Posted by: old chick at November 17, 2022 12:59 PM (sOete)

437 >>>Pelosi just announced she won't seek the Democrat leadership slot in the House next year.

Posted by: JackStraw

Maybe. Sounds good, but she is addicted to power.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 17, 2022 12:59 PM (d2bW3)

438 Could be the Liz Cheney centerfold.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 17, 2022 12:57 PM (TgBWG)
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You take that back! I was innocently just reading along through comments, and boom!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 12:59 PM (7hBFV)

439 434 TJM,

sorry, I didn't know That Prometheus Guy was a sore spot for you.

I'll call you That Coherence Guy.
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 12:59 PM (C1Zwz)

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It's not! I was just trying to make a funny. I even took the name in my last movie thread:

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/401712.php#401712

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:59 PM (LvTSG)

440 Trump is popular. DeSantis is popular. The Mc's are about as popular as a cabbagey fart in an elevator. Asa Hutchinson makes people ask if they could have a cabbagey fart in an elevator, instead.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 12:59 PM (/EuRN)

441 > I would not make William Shatner's list.

Sort of like Schindler's List, but, with, many, more, dramatic, pauses.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (bW8dp)

442 Same reason biden and clinton are still allowed on any stage. Things like rape or being unpopular only matter wehn power brokers want them to.
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (JTRqZ)

All the bullshit about Trump is bullshit. The GOP doesn't give a fuck about "unpopular" McConnell is proof.

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (Zzbjj)

443 399 oooooh .... hot off the presses.

Pelosi just announced she won't seek the Democrat leadership slot in the House next year.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2022 12:54 PM (ZLI7S)

She said she's not retiring and will serve out her next term. I don't think Vegas would post odds on this one. What's she going to do if she stays-on as a plain old Representative? Serve on one or more committees as ranking minority member? I can't see it happening.

Posted by: Gref at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (AMIL/)

444 Has Trump become unpopular with people who was not unpopular with before?

I don't think so.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (gfCY0)

445 I thought I was over Trump. Thought the mid-terms sealed it for me.

Then he announced.

Found out, I ain't as over him as I thought.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (KbCG3)

446 They'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel when we get the Adam Kitzinger front page spread at National Review in August.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:42 PM (LvTSG)
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Could be worse. Could be the Liz Cheney centerfold.
Posted by: Eeyore

Hey, it's a great fundraising tool: "pay us or we send that to you AGAIN"

Posted by: GOPe at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (JTRqZ)

447 Huck Follywood tells Eeyore to take the back, apparently wants the front

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (kVHiw)

448 How does Biden survive once the investigations get deep into the meat of Biden's corruption ???"

Same way he survives extensive video of him fondling little kids.
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The FBI LOVES him. If you were the director of the FBI and he had a laptop with enough evidence to send the pResident and half his family to prison, you ask yourself: "WHAT WOULD J. EDGAR HOOVER DO?" The FBI has total veto power over anything the admin might consider doing to the FBI as long as Biden is president. Wray can literally do anything he wants or nothing at all, as long as he holds the laptop.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (9cy2Q)

449 "Why does National Review think that leftward social pressure will work?"

Because it seems to be working?

Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (24fqN)

450 >>>It's not! I was just trying to make a funny. I even took the name in my last movie threa

i know i was just playing along

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (C1Zwz)

451
Late to the thread but good rant. Even though I had psych 101 to 441 I learned a new term today.

This is gonna play out the way it will play out. I'm America First whoever is carrying the ball.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (y3pKJ)

452 >>Pelosi just announced she won't seek the Democrat leadership slot in the House next year.

Posted by: JackStraw
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hammer that down, before it moves

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (7hBFV)

453 >>>Trump is popular. DeSantis is popular. The Mc's are about as popular as a cabbagey fart in an elevator.

McConnell doesn't go to GOP events because he's universally hated.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (d2bW3)

454 450 >>>It's not! I was just trying to make a funny. I even took the name in my last movie threa

i know i was just playing along
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (C1Zwz)

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Joking is hard on the internets...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (LvTSG)

455 The one that gets every so slightly richer with every eBay purchase done to avoid giving Bezos money through Amazon?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:57 PM (LvTSG)

Him. Omidyar, right

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (Zzbjj)

456 10 Asa who?
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2022 12:04 PM (4I/2K)

My first thought too.

Posted by: Roy at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (Ij6g3)

457 Pelosi just announced she won't seek the Democrat leadership slot in the House next year.
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*shit! that means the bitch will be here more of the time*

Posted by: Paul 'Hammer' Pelosi at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (6d1ps)

458 Actually people disappear from here all the time and it goes unnoticed. Sometimes it takes me months to realize someone I really like isn't around.

Also I'm literally the cartoon skull guy - does it get any bigger than that? - and with the exception of prayer asks, which frankly makes this place absolutely *rule* because I've seen it work on multiple occasions - only a select few appear to generally give a fuck if I live or die. It's not personal, it's the nature of a free flowing forum like this one.

Posted by: ... at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (gd1ZH)

459 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE LIZ CHENEY HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO FOLD IN THE CENTER SINCE SHE WAS LIKE 9 YEARS OLD OR SOMETHING BECAUSE FATTY FATTY FAT FAT

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISSBERGER at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (/EuRN)

460 I think Pelosi has some "cleaning up" to do before she vacates her political office.

IYKWIM

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (Q4IgG)

461 444 Has Trump become unpopular with people who was not unpopular with before?

I don't think so.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (gfCY0)

He's also had 4 years in the seat, which ought neutralize any incumbency advantage. Alternative candidates start as an unknown that is easier to smear. Trump saw massive improvements in his numbers in 2020 because people knew who he was.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (eYoxG)

462 >>>Because it seems to be working?
Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata

on me? Sure, anyone who finds fault with trump must be doing so because they're weak and cowardly, no one could have good reasons for doing so.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (C1Zwz)

463 Could be worse. Could be the Liz Cheney centerfold.
Posted by: Eeyore

Special four page fold out.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (tfjlC)

464 405 comment not found
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

HAHAHA.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HTTP ERROR CODE 405 IS "METHOD NOT ALLOWED," AND COMMENT 404 DISALLOWED THIS JOKE.

Posted by: BEN ROFLCOPTER at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (P1f+c)

465 She said she's not retiring and will serve out her next term. I don't think Vegas would post odds on this one. What's she going to do if she stays-on as a plain old Representative? Serve on one or more committees as ranking minority member? I can't see it happening.
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Her stepping down was part of some deal she brokered. POssibly setting up her kid to run when in her spot when her term expires.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (ChdTr)

466 444 Has Trump become unpopular with people who was not unpopular with before?

I don't think so.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (

half the blog is saying so

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (C1Zwz)

467 Ace started with a well balanced post that invited all sides to participate equally and so many great comments and opinions followed.
Posted by: old chick at November 17, 2022 12:59 PM (sOete)
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WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE?!?!?!?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (ykBBE)

468 One hopes that Trump has spent some of the past 2 years looking for reliable people to help him clean out the swamp, because he ended up with too many GOPe approved insiders that did him and us no favors.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (9aeKW)

469 Pelosi just announced she won't seek the Democrat leadership slot in the House next year.

Posted by: JackStraw
===============
hammer that down, before it moves
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (7hBFV)

Too soon.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (Zz0t1)

470 462 on me? Sure, anyone who finds fault with trump must be doing so because they're weak and cowardly, no one could have good reasons for doing so.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (C1Zwz)

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We must all remember the great unsaid truth, though:

DeSantis likes Nickelback.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (LvTSG)

471 I don't want to live under Democrat rule one second longer than I have to, and will vote for Trump if he is the nominee. But there's the little matter of the Georgia runoff to get through first, and I'd like to see Trump be more of a team player on that. Say what you will about Mitch McConnell, but the old coot spent over $20 million supporting Herschel Walker (or, rather, attacking Warnock), and has committed another $16 million to the runoff. Trump raised over $100 million and spent less than half of it, so he has over $60 million available for get out the vote and/or attack ads. He's even still fundraising in GA based on the runoff. Getting back to 50/50 in the Senate is important, and remember that Walker was endorsed by Trump so he should be willing to help his own candidate. It will also give him another swing state victory to take credit for.

Posted by: HTL at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (O9S2+)

472 "Why does National Review think that leftward social pressure will work?"

Because it seems to be working?
Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (24fqN)
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How could it be working, if no one reads it? Except for Mrs David French's bulls, I mean, while they wait in line.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (7hBFV)

473 I voted for Cruz in the primary, then Libertarian for the election. I didn't believe that a man who was a Democrat all his life before the election like Trump wouldn't govern as a Democrat.

I was wrong, and I happily voted to re-elect Trump.

This time, I will vote for Trump if he is the nominee, but not to be the nominee. I am assuming DeSantis is running, but this is likely going to be my vote even if he doesn't.

Trump can only have 1 term, will be 78 in 2024, will face overwhelming obstruction if elected (last time was nothing in comparison), and would be a huge contribution-in-kind to the Democrat's get out the vote efforts. In my mind, he is sure to lose, even to Biden, because those that hate him, and that's probably at least half the country, cannot be reconciled to him.

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (3DTwf)

474

Statement by President Joe Biden On Speaker Nancy Pelosi Stepping Down from Democratic Leadership in the House of Representatives

When I think of Nancy Pelosi, I think of dignity.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (63Dwl)

475 They're absolutely terrified of Trump running. Have been since the steal. Does that mean they think he can win? Have no idea. But he has my support because he terrifies them and drives them mad.

Posted by: Biergood at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (FQWHA)

476 473 I voted for Cruz in the primary, then Libertarian for the election.
Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (3DTwf)

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Are you me?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (LvTSG)

477 Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (eYoxG)

It all depends on what further damage Biden does, and if the Mitt types join him. Dems and failure theater GOP might be at the nadir in 2024.

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (Zzbjj)

478 I like Trump AND I like DeSantis. I like them both. I would be happy with either. I think DeSantis has a better chance to win. So, I'd prefer DeSantis to win in the primary, but I still like Trump and would be happy if he won.

What I do NOT like is the DeSantis people who no longer like Trump and the Trump people who no longer like DeSantis. We are on the same fucking team. Stakes are too high for this bullshit.

Let's have a friendly professional primary. No low blows. No animosity. Who ever wins, we rally behind... TOTALLY.

Posted by: tommylotto at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (6QQM8)

479 I think that was mostly that Persian guy's money
Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (Zzbjj)
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I don't think so. They're all gay for play to some degree and they run some specific lines in response to their money men (their staunch refusal to besmirch any aspect of Big Tech comes to mind), but I think the cocktail party effect (and not the auditory effect, but the social milieu that breeds their type of compliance) is a much more fundamental driver.

The money is nice, and they'll happily suck dick for it, but it isn't the main motivator. If Peter Thiel were to walk into NR headquarters and say, "I'll subsidize your operation at 100%, pay off your mortgages and double your salaries, but you have to pivot this magazine into a populist, pro-Trump platform right now," he wouldn't walk out victorious.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (t0OGg)

480 "One hopes that Trump has spent some of the past 2 years looking for reliable people to help him clean out the swamp."

After five years, he's not. He's either a perpetual dupe or in on the gag.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 17, 2022 01:04 PM (kVHiw)

481 466 444 Has Trump become unpopular with people who was not unpopular with before?

I don't think so.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (

half the blog is saying so
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (C1Zwz)

How many people here wouldn't vote for Trump in the general but would for DeSantis(or any other candidate)?

The electability argument comes down to net gains or net losses in vote totals (as well as distribution but that requires a lot of analysis first).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 01:04 PM (eYoxG)

482 McConnell doesn't go to GOP events because he's universally hated.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (d2bW3)

But we love him anyway!!!

Posted by: Joni, Mitt, Thune, etc at November 17, 2022 01:04 PM (Zzbjj)

483 As the one true reactionary here, I say "Honus Wagner."

Posted by: Eeyore at November 17, 2022 01:04 PM (TgBWG)

484 "on me?"

Nope, I meant the culture and polity generally.

"i know i was just playing along"

You came back at me with a Paul Anka once, and I didn't recognize it, and I cried.

Posted by: gp's Uncured Ballot Soppressata at November 17, 2022 01:04 PM (24fqN)

485 Oh man! I came hear to read about Asa Hutchinson and now all the talk is about other people.
JK. No one outside the Hutchinson house wants to talk about Asa Hutchinson.

Posted by: Wally at November 17, 2022 01:04 PM (nNnOk)

486 As I said yesterday, the Dump Trump people are the same that disingenuously demanded he resign the nomination after the pussy tape-- not just ceding the Presidency to Hillary but ensuring a bloodbath down ticket.

They want that. So, so badly. To teach us who is in charge.

That is the beginning, middle and end of Dump Trump/NeverTrump. Every other reason they say is a lie.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 17, 2022 01:04 PM (5EnGD)

487 Too soon.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (Zz0t1)
=================
Sorry! I owe everyone a gourmet ice cream cone. Or a bourbon. Your choice.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (7hBFV)

488 DeSantis likes Nickelback.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (LvTSG)

Well shit, might as well be voting for Justine Castreaux's left beef curtain, then.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (/EuRN)

489 Statement by President Joe Biden On Speaker Nancy Pelosi Stepping Down from Democratic Leadership in the House of Representatives

When I think of Nancy Pelosi, I think of dignity.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (63Dwl)

Tales from the Crypt

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (M+Lyo)

490 487 Too soon.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (Zz0t1)
=================
Sorry! I owe everyone a gourmet ice cream cone. Or a bourbon. Your choice.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (7hBFV)

=========

I'll take my bourbon as a Pappy Van Winkle.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (LvTSG)

491 . I just don't think we can elect him.

Posted by: ace

We can't elect anyone that is not 100% compromised. The deep state will not allow it. No Republican will win the President office unless they are willing to loot the country for the globalist cause. No conservative will win that office. Period. Ever.

Trump is a fighter. I really wish we could elect him again and watch in awe as he goes all out wrecking ball on the deep state. They will never allow that to happen. We had a good run as a republic. Too bad we couldn't keep it.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (Wy1BU)

492 Fucking awesome post, Ace.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (YJwUM)

493 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (t0OGg)

I disagree. I think they could whiplash that way for the right payoff

Posted by: Joni, Mitt, Thune, etc at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (Zzbjj)

494 >>>How many people here wouldn't vote for Trump in the general but would for DeSantis(or any other candidate)?

oh everyone here would vote for Trump in the general. but i'm pushing back against the claim that no one's getting sick of trump who wasn't already sick of trump.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (C1Zwz)

495 433 Posted by: nurse ratched at November 17, 2022 12:59 PM (Ja3qS)

congrats, you have learned all there is to learn here...

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (Lzpvj)

496 Of assholean senators sock

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 01:06 PM (Zzbjj)

497 San Francisco to give free "Universal Basic Income" to trannies.

Unrelated: I'm wondering if Value Village has any dresses that would fit me.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2022 01:06 PM (bW8dp)

498 =================
Sorry! I owe everyone a gourmet ice cream cone. Or a bourbon. Your choice.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (7hBFV)

I will take both, throw the ice cream over the shoulder and down the bourbon.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:06 PM (Zz0t1)

499 One hopes that Trump has spent some of the past 2 years looking for reliable people....

Yes, one does. But "hope" isn't actually a plan, is it?

Posted by: Oddbob at November 17, 2022 01:06 PM (lfHbI)

500 #39 Maria: Go back to giving blow jobs at the truck stops, it is better suiting to your character.

Posted by: Ligma Balzak from Fuggencrass, Vulgaria at November 17, 2022 01:06 PM (JNTt1)

501 Asa who?
Posted by: Count de Monet

Is it pronounced Assa ?

Posted by: JT at November 17, 2022 01:06 PM (T4tVD)

502 @466

>>half the blog is saying so

I would say the majority of the people that don't like him now are the same people that didn't like him in 2016 and caught the vapors every step along the way of his Presidency.

Unless the Junta indicts him, he's going to be the 2024 GOP nominee, nobody is going to beat him.

So, Gird Your Loins, it's going to be a bumpy ride from here on out.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 17, 2022 01:06 PM (up/3i)

503 Welp, brace yourselves for the endless stories about the Historic First Black Leader of a Party in the House of Representatives! Hakeem Jefferies.

Posted by: Gref at November 17, 2022 01:07 PM (AMIL/)

504 I too have announced my candidacy in the hopes the Trump will recognize me, give me an amusing nick name, and then the Press can suck my cock.
And they will too.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 17, 2022 01:07 PM (hfkc/)

505 half the blog is saying so
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 01:02 PM (C1Zwz)
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Nah, he's very popular. I just don't think he wins, and I want to win. Then I want to go all Sulla on the leadership of a certain unnamed agency who treasonously conspired against the people of the United States.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 01:07 PM (7hBFV)

506 >>>I would say the majority of the people that don't like him now are the same people that didn't like him

majority, sure, but it only takes a shift of 5% to change the course of an election.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 01:07 PM (C1Zwz)

507 I'm surprised Nanzy hasn't said she'll be stepping down to 'spend time with her family' after the recent happenings in her personal trainwreck.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:07 PM (Zz0t1)

508 --------------------
Nah, he's very popular. I just don't think he wins, and I want to win. Then I want to go all Sulla on the leadership of a certain unnamed agency who treasonously conspired against the people of the United States.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 01:07 PM (7hBFV)

Who wins, if not Trump?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)

509 They're absolutely terrified of Trump running. Have been since the steal. Does that mean they think he can win? Have no idea. But he has my support because he terrifies them and drives them mad.
Posted by: Biergood

No, they are not. They are locked into paroxysms of hatred. It's not fear. It's psychosis. And that's not a guide post or signal for us to do anything.

"They hate him, we must suck his dick now harder," isn't the slogan you might think it is.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 17, 2022 01:08 PM (IyrhE)

510 507 I'm surprised Nanzy hasn't said she'll be stepping down to 'spend time with her family' after the recent happenings in her personal trainwreck.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:07 PM (Zz0t1)

"I am illegally usurping this elected position to stay the high holy fuck away from my family"

...

I would actually respect her for saying that, I think.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 01:08 PM (/EuRN)

511
"I am illegally usurping this elected position to stay the high holy fuck away from my family"

...

I would actually respect her for saying that, I think.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 01:08 PM (/EuRN)

I'd support her re-election, maybe.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:09 PM (Zz0t1)

512 Who ever wins, we rally behind... TOTALLY.

I understand this concept, but my perception of the uniparty will not allow me to give my support to a group that states the right views and then works with the enemy.

Posted by: AK at work at November 17, 2022 01:09 PM (o+IHV)

513 Who wins, if not Trump?

With the Democrat machine in place nationally? No Republican.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 01:09 PM (Ivdso)

514 NRO - sucking the dicks Americans just won't suck

Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2022 01:09 PM (ESjRY)

515 508 Who wins, if not Trump?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)

========

Without serious cleanup of electoral processes across the country: no Republican.

The time, now, is to continue the work of taking control of the GOP from the people like Mitch McConnell at every level possible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

516 When I think of Nancy Pelosi, I think of that time I nailed her in the Senate Cloakroom back in '73. She was a hot piece of ass back then, Jack.

Posted by: Joe Biden on Nancy Pelosi at November 17, 2022 01:09 PM (bW8dp)

517 Trump delivered on what he promised more than any president in my lifetime. I can live with the PT Barnum stuff even if I don't love it.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2022 12:53 PM (ZLI7S)
^ This is where I am.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 17, 2022 01:10 PM (V6f9+)

518 Sorry TJM, your bourbon got consumed.

https://i.___ur.com/wlrEA4W.jpg

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 01:10 PM (7hBFV)

519 Statement by President Joe Biden On Speaker Nancy Pelosi Stepping Down from Democratic Leadership in the House of Representatives

When I think of Nancy Pelosi, I think of dignity.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (63Dwl)
***

I think of an old lady sneaking around getting her hair done in the covid times.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2022 01:10 PM (anj39)

520 National Review, crouching astride history like an angry toddler whimpering "noooooo", gesticulating defiantly with chubby clenched Jonah Goldberg-like fists.

Posted by: Scoundrel what found the last refuge. at November 17, 2022 01:10 PM (tF/Gf)

521 512. I will not vote for a Mitt, Jeb or some permutation of Gov Catshit. No.

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 01:10 PM (Zzbjj)

522 Who wins, if not Trump?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)
++++
If the GOP doesn't get its act together, shore up its messaging and action in a way that the disaffected normals like, target ballot/vote drives effectively and fight tooth and nail in the cheat-by-mail states?

Nobody.

The problem in 2024 is much bigger than Trump or non-Trump. He's a factor, and an important one - especially for that disaffected normals vote - but the GOP has to want to win for any of it to have any relevance at all.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 01:10 PM (t0OGg)

523 I'm surprised Nanzy hasn't said she'll be stepping down to 'spend time with her family' after the recent happenings in her personal trainwreck.

She will. Any day now. "I am stepping back to spend more time with my expensive ice cream, gay husband, the drifters he's fucking, and hammers."

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 17, 2022 01:10 PM (ppBhU)

524 With the Democrat machine in place nationally? No Republican.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 01:09 PM (Ivdso)

Or a kept Republican. If Mike Pence magically wins the R nomination, you'll know it's officially Go Time.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 01:11 PM (/EuRN)

525 Sorry TJM, your bourbon got consumed.

https://i.IMGur.com/wlrEA4W.jpg
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 01:10 PM (7hBFV)

Mmmmm....nipples......

Oh, and corrected so others can enjoy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:11 PM (Zz0t1)

526 Has Trump become unpopular with people who was not unpopular with before?

I don't think so.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (

half the blog is saying so
==
and if he is the nominee only 4 people here are saying they wouldn't vote for him, and you aren't one of them.

Which I get is not your point, but it is a counterpoint to the Trump is a bad choice argument. You can't evaluate any "choice" until you can compare it to the alternatives. You may again convince me that there is a better alternative to someone who appears to be popular in the party but not to the population like you did with Ted Cruz. I have an open mind about it. I thought you made sense in 2016 and BY GOD YOU DID. Didn't you?

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 17, 2022 01:11 PM (y9qn1)

527 518 Sorry TJM, your bourbon got consumed.

https://i.___ur.com/wlrEA4W.jpg
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 01:10 PM (7hBFV)

========

I believe I introduced you to that picture.

I would have done a Daily Gemma if I could have found as many pictures of her as I could of the Daddario.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 01:11 PM (LvTSG)

528 I'm surprised Nanzy hasn't said she'll be stepping down to 'spend time with her family' after the recent happenings in her personal trainwreck.

Pretty sure that is the last thing Paul and his collection of well lubricated hammers wants.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2022 01:11 PM (ESjRY)

529 but it only takes a shift of 5% to change the course of an election.

Then I recommend the legal ballot harvesting that is being used by the enemy.

Posted by: AK at work at November 17, 2022 01:11 PM (o+IHV)

530 513 "Who wins, if not Trump?"

With the Democrat machine in place nationally? No Republican.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 01:09 PM (Ivdso)

Which is definitely a big factor in the calculation. Why potentially alienate Trump's working class supporters? We can at least show we gave him a shot. It might be a different matter if we were giving up an easy Presidential win, but this looks like anything but.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2022 01:11 PM (eYoxG)

531 I'd be willing to give all of mine to Ace, if he can get Pixy to set it up.

There is a site I've used for some Twitchers and Rumblers who are even more 'problematic' than Ace for whom PayPal wasn't even an option, it's buymeacoffee.com. I don't the percentages that get thru or anything.

Posted by: t-bird at November 17, 2022 01:12 PM (CaJIi)

532 "I'm in! Do you accept Brave Attention Tokens?

What the hell are we supposed to do with those things, anyway? I've been collecting them for a while, but so far haven't give enough of a shit to find out what good they are. If any."

Donate them to Ace, if he or Pixy or whoever would become a Brave Verified Creator, which is easy (I've done it).

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at November 17, 2022 01:12 PM (JCZf/)

533 I'm surprised Nanzy hasn't said she'll be stepping down to 'spend time with her family' after the recent happenings in her personal trainwreck.

Why should she? She had the big gavel, then was turfed out, and in a few years, got back into the office. She knows what the republicans do not: eventually the pendulum swings back the other way.

Especially if you control the elections.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 01:12 PM (Ivdso)

534 I can live with the PT Barnum stuff even if I don't love it.

Can I live with it? Yes.

Do I want to live with it? Not really.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 17, 2022 01:12 PM (ppBhU)

535
I think of an old lady sneaking around getting her hair done in the covid times.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2022 01:10 PM (anj39)

Then attempting to destroy the life and livelihood of the person that ratted her out.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:12 PM (Zz0t1)

536 oh everyone here would vote for Trump in the general. but i'm pushing back against the claim that no one's getting sick of trump who wasn't already sick of trump.
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (C1Zwz)

Everything has a shelf life. I think he overexposes himself.

I am sort of getting tired of his antics. If he gets nominated I will vote for him.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 17, 2022 01:12 PM (M+Lyo)

537 516 When I think of Nancy Pelosi, I think of that time I nailed her in the Senate Cloakroom back in '73. She was a hot piece of ass back then, Jack.

Posted by: Joe Biden on Nancy Pelosi at November 17, 2022 01:09 PM (bW8dp)

That was a mink stole, Joe.

Turn the light on next time.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 17, 2022 01:12 PM (/EuRN)

538 Trump delivered on what he promised more than any president in my lifetime. I can live with the PT Barnum stuff even if I don't love it.
Posted by: JackStraw

^ This is where I am.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

I honestly love the PT Barnum bit because it drives the left and 1/2 of the right nuts.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 17, 2022 01:12 PM (tfjlC)

539 I'm surprised Nanzy hasn't said she'll be stepping down to 'spend time with her family' after the recent happenings in her personal trainwreck.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2022 01:07 PM (Zz0t1)

There are some things that need hammering out at home.

Posted by: Wally at November 17, 2022 01:12 PM (vMWVi)

540 506 >>>I would say the majority of the people that don't like him now are the same people that didn't like him
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majority, sure, but it only takes a shift of 5% to change the course of an election.
----------------------------------

2023 we'll have a lot better perspective.
The day day Trump announce my hair went alight I was Cruz all the way. Not that crude barbarian.

I wasn't long in the primary debates that Trump was the obvious one, "up to the task".

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 17, 2022 01:13 PM (gfCY0)

541 476 473 I voted for Cruz in the primary, then Libertarian for the election.
Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (3DTwf)

========

Are you me?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 01:03 PM (LvTSG)

It's too soon after lunch to think about philosophical questions like that. Maybe?

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 17, 2022 01:13 PM (3DTwf)

542 NOOD: media doesn't matter(s).

Posted by: mikeski at November 17, 2022 01:13 PM (P1f+c)

543 I think they also use illegal ballot harvesting. They're very versatile, and a Hawaiian judge would probably issue an injunction against a GOP harvest.

Posted by: CN at November 17, 2022 01:13 PM (Zzbjj)

544 No, they are not. They are locked into paroxysms of hatred. It's not fear. It's psychosis. And that's not a guide post or signal for us to do anything.

"They hate him, we must suck his dick now harder," isn't the slogan you might think it is.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Disagree. Yes, the hate is off the chart. But, there's fear there too. A lot of it. In many ways, he is unpredictable, and that is what I think they're really afraid of.

Posted by: Biergood at November 17, 2022 01:13 PM (FQWHA)

545 damn, I always forget Pixy doesn't like ___ur, so here is the tinyurl of my favorite TJM-posted photo of all time

https://tinyurl.com/2awehtev

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2022 01:13 PM (7hBFV)

546 We should be listening to Trump and any other contender talk about their plans to beat the fraud, and the permanent bureaucracy if they get to that point.

And if they don't have a plan they shouldn't run.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2022 01:13 PM (ESjRY)

547 497 San Francisco to give free "Universal Basic Income" to trannies.

Unrelated: I'm wondering if Value Village has any dresses that would fit me.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

just identify as a tranny bull dyke and keep your current wardrobe. maybe add some more flannel.

Posted by: x at November 17, 2022 01:14 PM (ZC2go)

548 I've been saying since last week when Ace dropped the "private" quote from Trump about having oppo info on DeSantis, that there was a coordinated attack going on. Mainly because it is an anonymous source and given without any context. Stuff we have seen over and over again.

It's nice to have it confirmed by Ace that it was an op.

Note I'm not saying Trump didn't say that but that is sorta irrelevant.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 17, 2022 01:14 PM (cMXNt)

549 Or a kept Republican.

One of my concerns was that Trump would be coopted by the GOPe. With them shrieking like they are, I feel more comfortable, thinking it unlikely that he has been coopted. But I will still watch for that!

Posted by: AK at work at November 17, 2022 01:14 PM (o+IHV)

550 The problem in 2024 is much bigger than Trump or non-Trump. He's a factor, and an important one - especially for that disaffected normals vote - but the GOP has to want to win for any of it to have any relevance at all.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2022 01:10 PM (t0OGg)

They don't want to with any candidate that truly supports what the base wants. You guys can argue Trump vs DeSantis. I'm sitting out the joke of Fed elections. Get the best local and state candidates elected. Let the national GOP burn.

Posted by: WiNO at November 17, 2022 01:14 PM (frOp8)

551 I will not rally behind any eventual candidate who demonstrates that they really don't want to win, and that the other guy would actually make a great president.

I made that idiotic mistake with McCain, and then I doubled down on my idiocy with Romney.

"Oh, my dad didn't really want to win." -- Tagg Romney

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 17, 2022 01:15 PM (YJwUM)

552 Heh. Nice rant Ace.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 17, 2022 01:15 PM (13LWD)

553
I wanted the giant sucking sound to stop and got Clinton. I wanted _____ and got McCain. I wanted _____ and got Romney.

I'm not gonna want anybody anymore. Pretty close to perfect failure. Though I did want Trump. But initially wanted Cruz.

So no drama or argumenting on my part. It will be what it will be. Same as it ever was.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 17, 2022 01:15 PM (y3pKJ)

554 I believe I introduced you to that picture.

I would have done a Daily Gemma if I could have found as many pictures of her as I could of the Daddario.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 01:11 PM (LvTSG)

Let's not go all crossbow vs longbow

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 17, 2022 01:16 PM (M+Lyo)

555 >>>It's not! I was just trying to make a funny. I even took the name in my last movie threa

i know i was just playing along
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 01:00 PM (C1Zwz)

=========

Joking is hard on the internets...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 01:01 PM (LvTSG)

His real name is James Monroe !

Posted by: JT at November 17, 2022 01:16 PM (T4tVD)

556 These leftists project that right wingers will bend to social pressure because that is how they function.

I want to move on from Trump. These constant lies and pressuring need confronting keep pulling me back into defending Trump.

Note. I voted for Trump in 2016 primary and both elections. In unlikely event it's him I will be voting for third party in 2024.

Posted by: Shiggz (defective slave) at November 17, 2022 01:16 PM (0SrVS)

557 @517

>>I can live with the PT Barnum stuff even if I don't love it.

The dude has been in the public Zeitgeist for over 40 years, he's always been a known quantity.

I mean, he had a highly rated television show for almost a decade, he was routinely on WWE doing crazy sh*t.

It's not like the crazy was very well hidden.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 17, 2022 01:16 PM (up/3i)

558 This is why I visit this site everyday. God damn, what a post.

Posted by: Fletch at November 17, 2022 01:16 PM (u6HcX)

559 No, they are not. They are locked into paroxysms of hatred. It's not fear. It's psychosis. And that's not a guide post or signal for us to do anything.
==
Remember where the hate comes from. It comes from the fact that they CREATED him. He got a soft ride through the primaries and was boosted by the MSM because they thought he was a patsy -- any easy beat for Hillary. They don't HATE you until you beat them or can threaten them. They don't hate Mitt Romney or Liz Cheney now do they. The haters are zombies. They do what they are told.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 17, 2022 01:17 PM (XGQOE)

560 Argue, sure, but pressure? Get the fuck out of here with that shit. I don't want to be your prison bitch the same way you don't want to be mine, so don't try to make me one.

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

Since you're new to this prison I'll make it easy on you.
Do you want to be the husband or the wife?

Posted by: Bubba has a nasty tasting punchline for you at November 17, 2022 01:17 PM (FCbAQ)

561 Tomorrow: BREAKING: DOJ, IRS, FBI, OSHA, EPA, FCC, FTC, ATF, HHS to investigate all House Republicans
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 17, 2022 12:57 PM (YJwUM)

They've been doing that for as long as those agencies have existed.

Posted by: Beartooth - DC delenda est at November 17, 2022 01:17 PM (4+bFW)

562 Trump has lost support because he's essentially been idle. Outside of some statements and rallies here and there, he doesn't appear to have been very active in the first half of his political exile. Trump's bluster and schtick only lands when he's in the ring. A boxer who hasn't had a fight in two years talking mad trash online is gonna look like a palooka no matter how great he is. Now that he has an official candidacy, we'll have to see how things go. Maybe he's great, maybe he's not. Maybe RonDee flames out over some scandal real or imagined. Maybe the bagmen decide Haley is gonna be It this time around. Who the hell knows.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2022 01:20 PM (/EuRN)

563 432 Trump's foreign policy accomplishments were astounding: The Abraham Accords, moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, immigration agreement with Mexico, and forcing our NATO allies to increase their defense spending.
Posted by: mrp at November 17, 2022 12:58 PM (6eRlp)

Exactly. And he kept us out of wars. My blood boils everytime I see a Wounded Warrior ad because it reminds me of all the needless suffering. Trump is an example of other ways to skin a cat.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at November 17, 2022 01:21 PM (C48x4)

564 "oh i'm a faker"

Fake, fake, fake, fake!

Posted by: Elane Bennes at November 17, 2022 01:21 PM (ZVuYy)

565 Gentlemen, I despise each and every one of you.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 17, 2022 01:21 PM (aW5/6)

566 I think Ace doth protest too yugely about not wanting to be my prison bitch

I keed I keed

Or do I

Posted by: Deepelemblues at November 17, 2022 01:22 PM (fuJH0)

567 I am half in on Trump, half-in on DeSantis. I think DeSantis looks “too good to be true” because conservatives with a spine know that based on the binary choice between each candidate, questions arise about whether the corporatist NR AEI set can infect DeSantis with the DC-uniparty flu. I also don’t think winning in 2024 with DeSantis as the nominee is a foregone conclusion, based on the fact elections since COVID have been gamed to favor the last team with the ball, ie…Democrats with mail in ballot harvest dumps.

Trump is a long shot, that said, the prospect of a NeverTrump Jonestown occurring, live on MSNBC/CNN election night 2024 gets me hard.

Posted by: Tj at November 17, 2022 01:27 PM (7PQAW)

568 This busty blonde in a one-piece has no delusions - she knows Hutchinson is just looking for some sweet, sweet Wal-Mart cash to launder out to family members that have "media companies:"
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Posted by: Joe Mannix

we still talking about prison bitches? 'cause she'll do.

Posted by: BifBewalski at November 17, 2022 01:27 PM (3CCua)

569 With blatant election corruption being codified into law in so many states, I'm convinced that only the leftist/deep state approved candidates will win on the national level. It's why I can't get excited about any candidate for prez. They already know who the next president is going to be.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 17, 2022 01:29 PM (BdMk6)

570 I think this is why I always got so put off by O'Reilly's "who's looking out for you?" schtick. I am, asshole, and I see your attempt to foist yourself upon me as my protector as an affront.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 17, 2022 01:31 PM (H2UjM)

571 No matter how many times Friday Night Tights runs that clip "I got news for ya, it means your gay." it never gets old. Been thinking about making it my ringtone.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 17, 2022 01:32 PM (nBCCt)

572 I think this is why I always got so put off by O'Reilly's "who's looking out for you?" schtick. I am, asshole, and I see your attempt to foist yourself upon me as my protector as an affront.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 17, 2022 01:31 PM (H2UjM)
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I couldn't stand it when he'd make some off-hand remark like, "Of course you need the public school system," and with a wave of his hand he's off to fiddling at the edges of a major cultural battleground, instead of attacking the concept at the root. Bill's perfectly fine with big government programs, as long as the money is diverted from your pocket into his pet issues.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 17, 2022 01:35 PM (nBCCt)

573 This is the rant I pay money for, Ace!! Love it and AoS.

"These people are fucking stupid." Yes. That simple. The problem is they are very dangerous in terms of their narcissism and influence(not with us).

I love DeSantis, but if you think the media won't Mitt Romney him perhaps even worse than Trump... They will take him much more seriously than they did Trump in 2016. Right now I am still in Trumps camp as he is only reacting like usual to the non-stop vitriol from everyone, especially DeSantis' donor base.

Posted by: Danimal28 at November 17, 2022 01:36 PM (klw0w)

574 I'm just happy to see that National Review used commas instead of periods when trying to make a dramatic point.

Posted by: RPK at November 17, 2022 01:39 PM (M4/BD)

575 That shit doesn't work on me either, or any of the people here who have drifted away from Trump. We're high in trait reactance too so stop attempting to pressure us to knuckle under. Immediately. Argue, sure, but pressure? Get the fuck out of here with that shit.

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Very much THIS. I would vote for Trump, yes, but I also want to see what others may have to say. What kills me about Trump is he has to fight EVERYONE. Why not come out and say "I look forward to a lively and productive debate with all other possible candidates, including Ron DeSantis should he decide to run, to help shape the future of the Republican Party." No, he's gotta go straight scorched earth out of the gate. I love the fight in him, but I think he wades into this type of shit for no reason at all, and it drives me nuts. Focus on the shitbags who are getting us here- not someone who may be more popular than you at the moment. He wastes so much energy on just going scorched earth as opposed to staying on point with the real threats to US, not your stupid fucking campaign that we now have to sit through for 2 years.

Posted by: kotter at November 17, 2022 01:43 PM (RMtE9)

576 Trump didn't fight for a complete border wall. At every turn he bowed to pressure from the Swamp he said he would eradicate. Then he poisoned the entire country with his "warp speed" vaccine.

If after this galling evil and dereliction you're still a Trump Supporter, congrats you're of the same mindset of people who vote in the Democrat cult.

Posted by: SayHelloWaveGoodbye at November 17, 2022 01:54 PM (tUfjF)

577 Well said Ace. I did not vote for Trump in the primary in 2016, but happily voted for him in the general both times, because Fuck You. I will likely not vote for him in the primaries this year but I will happily vote for him in the general because Double Fuck You.

Posted by: Milquetoast mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at November 17, 2022 01:56 PM (RTFfA)

578 Say is that a car transport pulling up the driveway?

VROOM VROOM BITCHES!!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 17, 2022 01:59 PM (hj2D/)

579 I'm a faker too!

Posted by: Mrs. Newsom at November 17, 2022 02:06 PM (Y274z)

580 I think they are promoting DeSantis, hoping that Hogan/Romney/Cheney can win plurality victories.

Question is, who wins the winner take all Florida primary?

Posted by: MikeN at November 17, 2022 02:10 PM (HVIzT)

581 People NOTICE when some better, more engaging and likable commenters are gone and come back. They ask about "what happened to..." that person.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2022 12:30 PM (Ivdso)

You missed the weekly "Where is Christopher R Taylor" posts every Thursday? Thousands of comments of speculation

Posted by: Oldcat at November 17, 2022 02:18 PM (eoQWY)

582 oh everyone here would vote for Trump in the general. but i'm pushing back against the claim that no one's getting sick of trump who wasn't already sick of trump.
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2022 01:05 PM (C1Zwz)

Good.

Posted by: runner at November 17, 2022 02:19 PM (uXTLF)

583 All politicians are bought. The questions are - by who and how much, and do the purchaser's goals benefit the voter?

Meanwhile, McCarthy and McConnell keep on keepin' on.

Posted by: Dr. Titanium Whitey, J.D. at November 17, 2022 02:20 PM (i6shs)

584 I don't like Donald Trump, but that's not the fuckin' point. I voted for him twice now (I guess 3 times if you count the 2020 primary). I'd rather have DeSantis, who I see as having Trump's positives without his negatives. But, if he wins the 2024 primary, I'll vote for him in Nov '24 and sleep like a baby afterwards.

Posted by: Jarrod at November 17, 2022 02:25 PM (Oow32)

585 You're right. Instead we should fight about who was the best short stop of all time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 17, 2022 12:43 PM (LvTSG)

Honus Wagner.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 17, 2022 02:25 PM (eoQWY)

586 add to this that trump is in fact unpopular, and IS a drag on the ticket, and is just a huge lift to get elected. I just don't think we can elect him.

Posted by: ace
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You said the same thing in 2015. Let the race play out if trump doesn't get the nomination he will get out and back the nominee. You labeling him as a drag and unelectable
Posted by: MikeN at November 17, 2022 12:56 PM (n3TWS)

Ninety seconds after someone not GOPe becoming more popular than Trump is the attack dogs trying to make them unpopular and a drag on the ticket.

Look at Lake, for example.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 17, 2022 02:34 PM (eoQWY)

587 I'm going to exert pressure on all you people and try to force you to refuse to give me a bottle of bourbon.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at November 17, 2022 02:40 PM (GD2xa)

588 I don't think a Trump run in 2024 would be the best thing we could do.

But fuck Bitch McConnell and his crop of RINOs that are desperate for Trump to not run.

These fucks just intentionally sabotaged winnable races because they didin't want to let Trump win.

So fuck the RINOs, that shit goes both ways.

The days of Pierre Delecto and Songbird McCain are LONG over.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at November 17, 2022 03:03 PM (setIA)

589 Larry Hogan is a complete tool. His wife has corrupted him. Involved in some unsavory shit that would not make it through grade school vetting.

He lowered tolls immediately after winning governor and then proceeded to carry the torch for every anti conservative cause. I will never forgive him for the bullshit he did during covid and the lecture he gave to 20 somethings out having a life prior to lockdowns.

He is a dick and as far as I can tell he doesn't have a book to sell

Posted by: mogsmash at November 17, 2022 03:54 PM (/CwcA)

590 News flash to the" growing numbers of Republicans who want to go a different direction in 2024 for practical reasons". There will be no path to a win for whoever is the Republican nominee for president in 2024. Democrats used Election Steal 1.0 in 2020, perfected Election Steal 2.0 in the 2022 Midterm Election and have Election Steal Permanent 1000.0 ready to roll in the 2024 Presidential Election.

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Liberal RINO Corporate Gimp Asa Hutchinson Threatens Delusionary Vanity Run for President;
Reached for Comment, "Beto" O'Rourke Says, "That Limpdick? LOL Get F***ed"
Plus: Shut the Fuck Up, National Review