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Elon Musk Demands Employees Sign Up For "Hardcore" Work Mode and Commit To Working Long Hours, Or Else Accept a Three Month Severance

First, Musk fired the "human bloatware" of people who never should have been hired in any company hoping to make it a profit one day -- members of the "climate team," the "human rights team," and the Niceness Maestros aplenty.

Then he began firing the obvious internal saboteurs who hated him so much, and were so determined to be a part of an anti-Musk Twitter #Resistance, that they couldn't even hide their intentions.

"These tweets were posted one hour apart, noted Jason Howerton.

Announcement of unsuitability for employment:

announcementofresistance.jfif

Announcement of unemployment:

announcementoffiring.jfif

Leftwing tech "journalists" are whining that employees should be allowed to openly announce an intention to be insubordinate or even commit sabotage against a boss they hate without consequence... so long, of course, that boss is associated with the right. Leftwing bosses would never be expected to put up with "problematic" right-leaning employees.


Casey Newton
@CaseyNewton

NEW: Employees who have criticized Elon Musk in Twitter's Slack channels were fired overnight over email.

"We regret to inform you that your employment is terminated immediately," they're being told over email. "Your recent behavior has violated company policy."

Employees say it appears that around 20 people have been fired so far for their Slack posts.

Real response to someone whining about the firing of these Exceptional People:

firingeniuses.jfif

Elon Musk now tells his remaining employees to agree to "hardcore" work mode, or resign.

Elon Musk has reportedly given an ultimatum to workers: Commit to a "hardcore" Twitter or leave the company.

"If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below," Musk told employees in an email that was sent to them Wednesday morning. The existence of the email was reported by the Washington Post.

Those who fail to sign the pledge by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday were told that they would be dismissed with three months of severance pay.

Musk told employees that Twitter "will need to be extremely hardcore" moving forward, according to the message.

"This will mean working long hours at high intensity," he said. "Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade."

The ultimatum comes as Musk -- consumed with the fear that disloyal employees will sabotage the platform -- reportedly has ordered senior staff at Twitter to comb through internal Slack chats to identify disloyal employees to fire, according to Insider.

Ed Morrissey observes that this new tranche of firing relies on employees to self-sort themselves as either hard workers or poor workers, and "self-deport" if they're the latter.

Rather than just chop for chopping's sake again, as Musk did at first, this time he wants the low-motivation brigades to self-identify to clear out more of the deadwood, as he would see it. This kind of approach has its risks, though: usually the people who have the most marketable skills leave first, and the deadwood sticks around. However, right now the tech industry is shedding lots of jobs and perhaps is on the cusp of a bubble burst, which means the marketable Twitter employees may not have many options at the moment.

Musk has previously created personal emails with tiny differences for each addressee, with variations in whether each sentence ends in one space or two -- so that when the email is inevitably leaked to the media, he knows who leaked it:

muskhardcoremode.jpg

I first read about that style of leaker trap in Tom Clancy, who discussed it one of his books. Clancy discussed a variation of it -- I think Clancy knew the real technique, but changed the details in his novel in order to keep the secret safe-ish. (In the novel, documents were written with individually-identifying "spicy quotes;" the leaker could be identified according to which version of the spicy quote the press wound up printing. I bet it was really just the one-or-two-spaces trick he had actually been told about, though. Rethinking: Actually, the one-or-two-spaces trick can only be done with a copy/paste, which is only possible in a world in which everyone has a computer and uses email, which is not the world Clancy was writing in. So he must have been talking about a different trick. Maybe the "spicy quote" thing was real. I doubt it. Probably something like different choices in punctuation, whether double dashes, long dashes, semi-colons, colons, etc.)



Elon Musk
@elonmusk

As Twitter pursues the goal of elevating citizen journalism, media elite will try everything to stop that from happening

Mainstream media will still thrive, but increased competition from citizens will cause them to be more accurate, as their oligopoly on information is disrupted

Matt Taibbi just wrote about Biden's and the Deep State's increasing threats to investigate and prosecute Musk -- for crimes so heinous they cannot even speculate about what they might turn out to eventually be, but they'll get to that sometime post-trial.


We burn witches in America. When heathens won't convert, when the crop is bad, we still burn the village freethinker.

The Federal Trade Commission last week told The Hill it was "tracking recent developments at Twitter with deep concern," adding, "no CEO... is above the law," clearly referring to the company's despised new owner, billionaire Elon Musk.

Musk is the new bête noire of the American consensus. He is the Negative Current Thing, a role mostly played by Donald Trump since summer 2015, with occasional fill-ins (in no particular order, Vladimir Putin, Tucker Carlson, Novak Djokovic, J.K. Rowling, Jeremy Corbyn, Joe Rogan, Dave Chappelle, whatever they call Kanye West these days, and others have manned the slot). The coverage playbook for these heel-of-the-hour stories is rigid. Certain elements are always present.

Criminal investigations are instigated. Advocacy organizations issue denunciations (some combination of the Anti-Defamation League and the ACLU's Chase Strangio is found in nearly all cases). News organizations demand the person's muffling. Unions, guilds, and associations threaten walkouts. Even if the villain leans left, he or she begins to be described as "right wing," a term with little political meaning left, that's just code for heresy now.

It's different from cancel culture. Cancelations start with a transgression, or at least an accusation of one. The other story type starts with a broader offense called thinking for yourself, which triggers denouncers to work backward in search of wrongdoing. Musk is the paradigmatic example. He's achieved round-the-clock denunciation despite total confusion as to his core offense.

It was weird enough last week when Joe Biden said it was "worth looking into" whether Musk is a "national security threat" due to his "cooperations" and "relationships" with other countries, as if it were obvious how either translates to wrongdoing. For those who believe Biden just fumbled a surprise question, the issue had long before been leaked to Bloomberg, which in late October reported anonymous officials in the "intelligence community" were "weighing what tools, if any," were available to stop Musk. The leakers not only seemed uncertain of what bureaucratic weaponry they could use on Musk, but what excuse they could put forward. The groping was so clumsy they claimed to be concerned about the presence of "foreign investors," despite the fact that the previous Twitter regime had been taking money from the same foreigners.

After Biden spoke, National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan -- fast becoming the Madame DeFarge of the Biden administration -- all but rolled his eyes when asked if he could "offer anything about why" Musk might be investigated. "You heard the president," he chirped, not pausing his mental knitting. Public indifference to the madness of this was astonishing. We've had a secret grand jury system for centuries precisely to prevent this situation, i.e. the injustice of a person not charged with a crime having to live under public suspicion. Of course erstwhile progressives being indifferent to important civil liberties concerns has become routine in the Trump era.

Musk is accused of something bad, but what? The New York Times penned a basic indictment on October 26th, "How Elon Musk Became a Geopolitical Chaos Agent," but the piece read like a parent's deranged fantasy about the impact of a child's friend who has a nose ring. The paper mourned Musk's "influence and ability to cause trouble," reporting he's often "waded into situations even after he was advised not to" (again, was this a preschool report card?). They blasted him for "seeming to align himself with the Kremlin" via a peace plan in Ukraine, but were more quiet about Joint Chiefs Chair Mark Milley proposing something similar. People have complained about everything from Musk mistaking a Chris Farley sketch for a movie to firing a lot of people (including former Homeland Security advisory committee member Vijaya Gadde) to a plan to desecrate the sacred blue check mark inspired moral horror. From The Hill:

He slashed around half the workforce and rolled out a new Twitter Blue program that includes a verification check mark for $8 a month, which has led to widespread concerns over the impersonation of official accounts.

Musk voted for Barack Obama in 2012, Hillary Clinton in 2016, and Joe Biden in 2020, but he's not being denounced as a dangerous right-wing reactionary and traitor because of his politics. The real problem is he's a rich industrialist who has mild disagreements with Current Thing speech theology, and enough money to refuse to back down when threatened. This can't be tolerated. A bigger worry, as Walter Kirn and I discussed, is that Musk could probably explode the Washington blob just by airing all the dirty correspondence from governments, ours included, that sent censorship and surveillance dictates to Twitter over the years.

If he is indeed holding that grenade, he should pull the pin now. He would go down in history as an American hero, remembered as the man who used his billions to buy the unmasking of a corrupt political establishment.

Read the whole thing. There's more. He talks a lot about witch-hunting and the irrational mass moral panics that sweep through the, LOL, "elite" literally every two weeks.

As John Ekdahl asked a couple of years ago: Do you even remember what the last Elite Moral Panic was, the crisis so threatening and so consuming we had to focus obsessively on it for one day and expunge or jail all the wrongthinkers?

How about the one before that?

You can't, can you?

And yet the "Cognitive Elite" keep pushing these lunatic, juvenile hysterias every two weeks, completely forgetting that the last thing they said would literally Destroy Democracy, did not.

Posted by: Ace at 02:05 PM




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1 !

Posted by: wth at November 16, 2022 02:07 PM (v0R5T)

2 ""This will mean working long hours at high intensity,""

Crunch. Always the damn crunch.

Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:07 PM (24fqN)

3 You mean I gotta work at work? WTF?

Posted by: 496 at November 16, 2022 02:07 PM (YaKb6)

4 "Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade"

said CEO Queeg.

Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:08 PM (24fqN)

5 Such a boss!

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 16, 2022 02:08 PM (rbKZ6)

6 Bitching about your employer where your employer can hear it is called shooting yourself in the foot. It is an indicator that you are too stupid to work there.

Posted by: huerfano at November 16, 2022 02:08 PM (dTFZY)

7 I like this Musk fellow...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2022 02:08 PM (bs+z0)

8 "Undermine the owner!"
-Employee in public forum owned by employer

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:09 PM (LvTSG)

9 1 !
Posted by: wth at November 16, 2022 02:07 PM

Hi wth! I've been wondering how your chemo cream treatment worked out for you?

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 16, 2022 02:09 PM (rbKZ6)

10 I like the part where these geniuses are using Slack to badmouth the owner .... who can read every conversation

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 16, 2022 02:09 PM (5EnGD)

11 Read the content, like a rookie.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 16, 2022 02:09 PM (53oGX)

12 Why do I think the Grievance Studies folx will have Grievances?

Posted by: rd at November 16, 2022 02:10 PM (Z32m1)

13 OMG! Bellenger's badge picture is too perfect!

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 16, 2022 02:11 PM (rbKZ6)

14 Hey now, Elon did admit to being wrong about firing some people. He happily rehired Ligma and Johnson.

Posted by: buzzion at November 16, 2022 02:11 PM (aRLgQ)

15 That Bellenger guy looks like a real prize employee. Big loss to Twatter.

Why do all these leftwing twats look the same? You can spot them a mile away.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 02:11 PM (iFTx/)

16 "Their immense talent will no doubt be of great use elsewhere."
.......

Snap!

Posted by: wth at November 16, 2022 02:11 PM (v0R5T)

17 They're gonna run the Trump playbook on Musk, and why not?

Anybody get whacked for the whole phony Russia!Russia!Russia! hysteria? No?

Well, then, why not go whole hog?

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at November 16, 2022 02:11 PM (oedLL)

18 How about the one before that?

You can't, can you?

And yet the "Cognitive Elite" keep pushing these lunatic, juvenile hysterias every two weeks, completely forgetting that the last thing they said would literally Destroy Democracy, did not.

==========

It's why Twitter has been so important to them. It created the "groundswell" that authorities needed in order to take action in a way that would be convincing enough to sell to the public.

"There's an outrage on Twitter about not enough black people in football, so we need to fire some white kickers" or whatever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:11 PM (LvTSG)

19 due to his "cooperations" and "relationships" with other countries


Sounds a lot like the Bidens. Projection much?

Posted by: pookysgirl, just sayin' at November 16, 2022 02:12 PM (XKZwp)

20 Maybe I'm old fashioned, but the fact that so many of these former Twitter employees seem surprised when they get fired for publicly badmouthing the company/boss seems odd to me. In what other industry wouldn't you just expect to be fired for the crap they try to pull?

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:12 PM (BJKQV)

21 @CaseyNewton
NEW: Employees who have criticized Elon Musk in Twitter�s Slack channels were fired overnight over email.

"We regret to inform you that your employment is terminated immediately," they're being told over email. "Your recent behavior has violated company policy."

Employees say it appears that around 20 people have been fired so far for their Slack posts.

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The bloodletting at my company is going to be tremendous. We are likely to be acquired and many, many employees have been making their dissatisfaction with that likely occurrence very loudly known - both in internal forums and even in forums visible to the company that is likely to make a buyout offer.

I strongly suspect they will not be retained if it happens, and not one of them seems to consider the possibility of that outcome.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:12 PM (t0OGg)

22 "That Bellenger guy looks like a real prize employee."

NIiiiiiiiice pink hat on that fella.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at November 16, 2022 02:13 PM (oedLL)

23 I'm still recovering from the mass deaths and destruction of net neutrality.

Posted by: brak at November 16, 2022 02:13 PM (j5Tg0)

24 https://tinyurl.com/5ymt33x8

Welcoming back Ligma & Johnson!

Important to admit when I’m wrong & firing them was truly one of my biggest mistakes

Posted by: buzzion at November 16, 2022 02:13 PM (aRLgQ)

25 >>>Sounds a lot like the Bidens. Projection much?


i know, right?!

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2022 02:13 PM (C1Zwz)

26 12 Why do I think the Grievance Studies folx will have Grievances?
Posted by: rd at November 16, 2022 02:10 PM (Z32m1)

I know!

And the color guard is colored! Who made them the color guard?

Posted by: Homer Stokes, candidate for governor at November 16, 2022 02:13 PM (a/dOO)

27 Fucking rookie mistake, read the content to find the comments are empty. I'm a slow reader, let's see where I ended up.

Posted by: Oedipus at November 16, 2022 02:13 PM (yyaYU)

28 Musk for Galactic President!

Posted by: runner at November 16, 2022 02:14 PM (uXTLF)

29 Those ex-Twitter employees need to boycott that platform and open accounts over at Gab, where they can feel free to speak openly.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 16, 2022 02:14 PM (6xbVH)

30 Those who fail to sign the pledge by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday were told that they would be dismissed with three months of severance pay.

Musk told employees that Twitter "will need to be extremely hardcore" moving forward, according to the message.

"This will mean working long hours at high intensity," he said. "Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade."

The ultimatum comes as Musk -- consumed with the fear that disloyal employees will sabotage the platform -- reportedly has ordered senior staff at Twitter to comb through internal Slack chats to identify disloyal employees to fire, according to Insider.

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The Tech recession that is just getting started is going to be a boon to Musk. People who might not be inclined to stay will choose to do so, and replacing the people who go will be easier and done at lower cost courtesy of the purges that are ramping up elsewhere.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:14 PM (t0OGg)

31 21 I strongly suspect they will not be retained if it happens, and not one of them seems to consider the possibility of that outcome.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:12 PM (t0OGg)

==========

An advantage of having no real friends at work anymore. I have no one in the company to say stuff like this to. I'm just quietly doing my job.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:14 PM (LvTSG)

32 Hi wth! I've been wondering how your chemo cream treatment worked out for you?
Posted by: Moonbeam at November 16, 2022 02:09 PM (rbKZ6)
.........

Hi! It worked very good but it was a very, very miserable three weeks. I only did my forehead this time, all the keratosis are gone. It's very hard to keep it out of your eyes and nose, it makes you feel ill.

Posted by: wth at November 16, 2022 02:15 PM (v0R5T)

33 It's his company...he bought it. He can shut the doors if he wants. 3 months severance seems pretty generous.

Posted by: BignJames at November 16, 2022 02:15 PM (AwYPR)

34 The ultimatum comes as Musk -- consumed with the fear that disloyal employees will sabotage the platform

A legitimate concern.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2022 02:16 PM (KCOCK)

35 Rather than just chop for chopping's sake again, as Musk did at first, this time he wants the low-motivation brigades to self-identify to clear out more of the deadwood, as he would see it. This kind of approach has its risks, though: usually the people who have the most marketable skills leave first, and the deadwood sticks around.
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Sometimes, yes. And I disagree with the first statement (it wasn't chopping for chopping's sake), but that is beside the point.

What we don't know is what the incentive structure is. The people with the best skills absolutely will stick around if that "hardcore mode" stuff is tied to generous bonuses and other incentives. Musk isn't stupid, so I suspect that it is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:16 PM (t0OGg)

36 That Bellinger chap looks like he has Down's Syndrome.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 16, 2022 02:16 PM (eGTCV)

37 The next fight Twitter will have, is an international one. Most countries throughout the world embrace censorship. They have laws they ENFORCE about what you can say... whether political or religious.

Litmus test for if the US deserves to survive IMO, is will our government side with Musk and Free Speech? or go all in on censorship.

I'm betting the later.

Posted by: The Founding FATHERS at November 16, 2022 02:16 PM (oHd/0)

38 Musk is piqued today because Artemis didn't blow up on the pad.

Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:16 PM (24fqN)

39 34 The ultimatum comes as Musk -- consumed with the fear that disloyal employees will sabotage the platform

A legitimate concern.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2022 02:16 PM (KCOCK)

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Why on earth would he think that? It's not like his own employees are announcing their intentions to sabotage his company in public.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:16 PM (LvTSG)

40 Maybe I'm old fashioned, but the fact that so many of these former Twitter employees seem surprised when they get fired for publicly badmouthing the company/boss seems odd to me. In what other industry wouldn't you just expect to be fired for the crap they try to pull?
Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:12 PM (BJKQV)

_____________

Welcome to Generation Football Bat. We are Narcissism Defined!

Posted by: 20-Something Twitter Employees at November 16, 2022 02:16 PM (Z32m1)

41 "Musk for Galactic President!"

HEY! I won that fair and square!

Oh, look, it's second lunch-time already!

Posted by: Stacy "Tank With Extra Road-Hugging Weight" Abrams at November 16, 2022 02:16 PM (oedLL)

42 In what other industry wouldn't you just expect to be fired for the crap they try to pull?

Left-wing tech people have been living high on the hog for a long, long time.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2022 02:17 PM (KCOCK)

43 Musk has previously created personal emails with tiny differences for each addressee, with variations in whether each sentence ends in one space or two -- so that when the email is inevitably leaked to the media, he knows who leaked it:
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The next Republican that wins a major office should remember this. It is very smart and easy to do and lets you know precisely who your saboteurs are.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:17 PM (t0OGg)

44 28 Musk for Galactic President!
Posted by: runner at November 16, 2022 02:14 PM (uXTLF)

He will need a third arm to help with his ski-boxing.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:17 PM (BJKQV)

45 BURN.
IT.
TO.
THE.
GROUND.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 16, 2022 02:17 PM (wtvvX)

46 As to that method of identifying the leaker; althought it may have been used earlier (it's quite logical), the first instance I know of was by the KGB, trying to ID some high level leakers of confidential docs to the US. The Soviets had a reliable mole inside the US intelligence services (they always did) so they would create a memo that said "Top secret! for your eyes only, convey this to no one!" Of course a different memo was sent to every top level member under suspicion, and of course all of the stories were false. Then they just waited to see which one crossed the desk of the mole in D.C.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:17 PM (trdmm)

47 36....

The dipshit could be a stand in for Jim Varney in Ernest Goes to Camp.

Posted by: PacosMojo at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (jJGke)

48 Longer hours and intensity? No problem with that if I'm being compensated appropriately.

Posted by: polynikes at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (pAYE7)

49 What we don't know is what the incentive structure is. The people with the best skills absolutely will stick around if that "hardcore mode" stuff is tied to generous bonuses and other incentives. Musk isn't stupid, so I suspect that it is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:16 PM (t0OGg)

Funny thing... if you actually are able to reward those who do the hard work... you get more people willing to do the hard work.

Almost as if a Meritocracy has... merit...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (oHd/0)

50 "variations in whether each sentence ends in one space or two "

Note that AoSHQ has safeguards against two-space sentence bumpers.

Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (24fqN)

51
Maybe something like this will at least give us a fighting chance to get the road back.

Musk is far from ideal, but he's doing the right thing. So far.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (x0n13)

52 I dunno, but I have a pretty good rule of thumb: if an employee is so stupid that he or she doesn't know it's not a good idea to openly mock and shit on the boss, then that employee is obviously a shit employee and needs to go.

I'm not talking about DISAGREEMENTS with the boss. Most good bosses are willing to consider contrary ideas and even solicit them. I'm talking about just shitting on the boss.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (iFTx/)

53 The other slight problem many Twitter employees have is that they moved hundreds or thousands of miles from their jobs, never dreaming that they would actually have to go back to the office.

IT'S NOT FAIR!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (KCOCK)

54 I know he's not One Of Us, and will disappoint deeply at some point...but I'm really liking the cut of his jib.

He not only bought the Digital Town Square, but quite possibly the documentation of corruption if ace is correct.

The big thing I also note is that re-hiring of the two folks...the words "I'm wrong" actually exited his mouth. Wow.

Posted by: Oedipus at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (yyaYU)

55 The Federal Trade Commission last week told The Hill it was "tracking recent developments at Twitter with deep concern," adding, "no CEO... is above the law," clearly referring to the company's despised new owner, billionaire Elon Musk.
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Except all the ones who are.

What he meant was, "Everyone is a target if they don't fall in line with our diktats and policy goals." That doesn't sound as good, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (t0OGg)

56 This is great. Fire everyone and hire AoSHQ morons instead.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2022 02:19 PM (BJ1wF)

57 Sounds like its going back to being a tech company. Remember Apple and MS back in the 80's? It was "hardcore" mode then.

Posted by: redchief at November 16, 2022 02:19 PM (NK4Yv)

58 It really hasn't sunk in to their thick skulls that he owns the place and they are shitting on him in his own house...what a bunch of idiots.

Posted by: DaveX64 - AWFLs smell like dryer sheets at November 16, 2022 02:19 PM (QrFBC)

59 Using slight variations to identify leakers is also great strategy. The good news is that even if he hasn't done it for this or any particular email, the paranoia is there for the employees, which will either make the leakers hesitant to contact the media or the leakers will demand that the media paraphrase the contents. If the media paraphrases, first, that makes them work, even just a bit, and second, Elon can release actual text and show just how badly the media misconstrued the original message.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 16, 2022 02:19 PM (a/dOO)

60 A bigger worry, as Walter Kirn and I discussed, is that Musk could probably explode the Washington blob just by airing all the dirty correspondence from governments, ours included, that sent censorship and surveillance dictates to Twitter over the years.

If he is indeed holding that grenade, he should pull the pin now. He would go down in history as an American hero, remembered as the man who used his billions to buy the unmasking of a corrupt political establishment.

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He won't pull that pin now, because he has too much lose. He may well have it attached to a dead-man switch, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:19 PM (t0OGg)

61 56 This is great. Fire everyone and hire AoSHQ morons instead.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2022 02:19 PM (BJ1wF)

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I'm not gonna work that hard.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:19 PM (LvTSG)

62 20 Maybe I'm old fashioned, but the fact that so many of these former Twitter employees seem surprised when they get fired for publicly badmouthing the company/boss seems odd to me. In what other industry wouldn't you just expect to be fired for the crap they try to pull?
Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:12 PM (BJKQV)

And any tech hiring manager who is interviewing candidates surely will look for any social media posts. I passed on a candidate who had a wide open facebook account and stated that she didn't play well with others (and a lot worse). Needless to say, she didn't get a call back.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 16, 2022 02:19 PM (N39Ws)

63 17 They're gonna run the Trump playbook on Musk, and why not?

Anybody get whacked for the whole phony Russia!Russia!Russia! hysteria? No?

Well, then, why not go whole hog?
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma
------------------------------
Same reason that they never quite pushed Trump to the wall. Fear of what the target might reveal.

Posted by: whig at November 16, 2022 02:19 PM (CXr4y)

64 I don't put stickers on laptops, because I'm not lame.

But if I did, I'd place them top-aligned against the hinge like that Twitterfag did. The stickers are for me to enjoy, not passers-by.

The one that gets me is "I Voted."

Those stickers are propaganda. They are for others to see, and think "maybe I should vote, too."

Placing them facing *you,* on *your own desk* is extremely self-centered and masturbatory. You know you voted, Twitterfag. You're just trying to remind yourself how cool you are for casting your token in America's Pig Contest. It's so fucking lame that I can barely imagine the lameness of that fruit's life.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2022 02:20 PM (oINRc)

65 "I'm not gonna work that hard."

Me neither. My crunch days are over.

Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:20 PM (24fqN)

66 Most good bosses are willing to consider contrary ideas and even solicit them. I'm talking about just shitting on the boss.

And doing it publicly.

A few times, with the best boss I ever had, I walked into her office, closed the door, and said: "You are about to make a mistake."

I'd never dream of doing that in public.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2022 02:20 PM (KCOCK)

67 >>>That Bellinger chap looks like he has Down's Syndrome.
Posted by: That NLurker guy


TIMMAY!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2022 02:20 PM (BJ1wF)

68 60 He won't pull that pin now, because he has too much lose. He may well have it attached to a dead-man switch, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:19 PM (t0OGg)

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Like, a real dead man's switch? Or a Jeffrey Epstein dead man's switch that faults whenever it's used?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:20 PM (LvTSG)

69 "Elon Musk has reportedly given an ultimatum to workers: Commit to a "hardcore" Twitter or leave the company."


Too bad Trump couldn't have done that with the fed bureaucracy in 2017.

Posted by: Ripley at November 16, 2022 02:20 PM (MxEKc)

70 54 I know he's not One Of Us, and will disappoint deeply at some point...but I'm really liking the cut of his jib.

He not only bought the Digital Town Square, but quite possibly the documentation of corruption if ace is correct.

The big thing I also note is that re-hiring of the two folks...the words "I'm wrong" actually exited his mouth. Wow.
Posted by: Oedipus at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (yyaYU)

Those were actors and not actual employees weren't they? Afaik that was Musk just trolling.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 16, 2022 02:20 PM (eYoxG)

71 What's the current tally of tech workers who have been fired?

Close to 30k, now right?

It's going to cascade.

Also, these fired are not of the bootstraps and beans mold-- this job loss will crush their little butterfly wings into a dirty spiral of depression. Merry Christmas!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 16, 2022 02:20 PM (5EnGD)

72 OT-ish:

Anybody remember the webcomic "Sinfest"?

If, like me, you gave up on it when the author got too femmy-preachy, well, WOWZA!

He red-pilled the farg out, and is just slicing and dicing the usual lefty suspects like a berserk Veg-O-Matic set to 'slaughter'.

And he REALLY doesn't like Joe Biden.

Worth another look, peeps.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at November 16, 2022 02:20 PM (oedLL)

73 I'd like to be the closet conservative over at Twitter that contacted Musk via private channels early on and let him know that if he needs any help sorting out who the traitors are, to just let me know.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 16, 2022 02:21 PM (6xbVH)

74 I will say this, Elon going to war with his own workforce is pretty amusing and largely unprecedented.

I really blame John Stewart for everything wrong with this country over the last 15 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 02:21 PM (hj2D/)

75 I'm hoping Musk has some twit dirt on the McFailures.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 16, 2022 02:21 PM (pb6ET)

76 The big thing I also note is that re-hiring of the two folks...the words "I'm wrong" actually exited his mouth. Wow.
Posted by: Oedipus

Story I read was that Tweet was directed at the two fake Twitter employees engaged in a media stunt.

Elon was just trolling.

Posted by: whig at November 16, 2022 02:21 PM (CXr4y)

77 "Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade."

Exceptional, my ass!

Posted by: Matt Dillon at November 16, 2022 02:21 PM (ChAEn)

78 These people are amazing. They are so self-righteous and full of themselves.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 16, 2022 02:21 PM (sVtYq)

79 The other slight problem many Twitter employees have is that they moved hundreds or thousands of miles from their jobs, never dreaming that they would actually have to go back to the office.

IT'S NOT FAIR!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (KCOCK)
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Wait until he moves operations to TX. That will purge at least 500-1000 more.

Posted by: WisRich at November 16, 2022 02:21 PM (G0vdT)

80 Reading about these folks and their "jobs" there at Twitter is hilarious.

I've been in the IT corporate world for almost three and a half decades now. My office back in the early 90s had about 100 programmers from PhDs to fresh out of college newbies.

A 50 hour work week was a gift. We had sys admins who worked in the computer rooms who brought in sleeping bags because they stayed there all weekend to load tapes for the coming week's releases for testing and mods.

If you're on the "climate team" at a company like Twitter and the building catches on fire, the firefighters will grab the paintings in the lobby before they grab you.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 16, 2022 02:21 PM (wb1YC)

81 4 "Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade"

said CEO Queeg.
Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:08 PM (24fqN)
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Ahh, but the strawberries! That's—that's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes, but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with—geometric logic—that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist!

Posted by: Biden's Dog at November 16, 2022 02:21 PM (UK1vv)

82 The entitlement of people in tech is amazing, especially to someone like me who came from a non tech company.

For example, our main corporate office has an on-site gym and rock climbing wall. They're closing the office soon for construction and everyone is working from home.

Where will we rock climb???? they ask. I don't know, be an adult and go find a place. No, of course mgt doesn't say that. They pay a local rock climbing gym to let employees use it without charge during construction after the complaints.

I can only imagine a place like Twitter is 1000x worse.

It's work. It's a job. Playtime is over you overgrown children.

Posted by: guy in tech venting over a VPN at November 16, 2022 02:21 PM (uTIyR)

83 Joe Biden is everything the left warned us about Reagan, both Bushes, and Trump.

And the irony is completely lost on them.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (ESjRY)

84 I really want Musk to buy an internet search engine, and regress the code about 5 years.

Really tired of getting page after page of the same 15 moderated results.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (oHd/0)

85 >>>A few times, with the best boss I ever had, I walked into her office, closed the door, and said: "You are about to make a mistake."


The other day the captain came to my desk and asked how its going. I was in a mood and said, Well. I haven't shot up the place.

He laughed. Best captain I ever had.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (BJ1wF)

86 God chooses unlikely leaders shitposters.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (44ww/)

87 I would not want to work for Elon Musk. I've already served my time working 60+ hour weeks at Amazon.

That said, he works just as hard as everyone he employs. The man leads by example.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bang Amber Heard.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (xcxpd)

88 The big thing I also note is that re-hiring of the two folks...the words "I'm wrong" actually exited his mouth. Wow.
Posted by: Oedipus at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (yyaYU)

Um, you know that those two "workers" were the fake "fired Twitter employees" who trolled the media the day that Musk took over, correct? He's just playing along for fun.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 16, 2022 02:23 PM (a/dOO)

89 I'm not talking about DISAGREEMENTS with the boss. Most good bosses are willing to consider contrary ideas and even solicit them. I'm talking about just shitting on the boss.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 02:18 PM (iFTx/)
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And disagreements - especially big ones - are for behind closed doors. No boss, however open to disagreement, wants to be called out in front of the troops. I have done the former many times. The boss proposes something that I think is stupid, so I ask for a meeting with him and raise my concerns or objections and bring an alternative to the table with me. Sometimes I get my way, sometimes I don't - but shitting on the boss in a public forum is a great way to make sure you don't get your way and also get fired.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:23 PM (t0OGg)

90 @187

>>Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bang Amber Heard.

I think you're making that up.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 02:23 PM (hj2D/)

91 87 Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bang Amber Heard.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (xcxpd)

=========

She already hookin'?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:23 PM (LvTSG)

92 Former WaPo writers that Foxnews seems to be hiring at a record pace imply that Pompeo will challenge Trump for the GOP nomination.

Maybe Trump can respond with another ad hominem, or juvenile pejorative.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2022 02:24 PM (OTvdu)

93 Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bang Amber Heard.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (xcxpd)


That's a shitty idea

Posted by: Doof at November 16, 2022 02:24 PM (ChAEn)

94 The next round of screaming will be about "racism" in tech layoffs.

If you are a smart tech firm, you hire the best engineers that you can find, regardless of sex or skin color.

You load up HR, "marketing", and other secondary departments with the diversity hires to hit your racial and sexual quotas.

So, when you cut out the deadwood, guess who you cut?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2022 02:24 PM (KCOCK)

95 Story I read was that Tweet was directed at the two fake Twitter employees engaged in a media stunt.

Elon was just trolling.
Posted by: whig


Oh, gotcha. First I heard of it was in this thread. My bad.

Posted by: Oedipus at November 16, 2022 02:24 PM (yyaYU)

96 1. I am pretty sure the individualized messages trick goes back at least to WWII, and I am pretty sure I saw it in a mid century spy novel but I don't recall which one. I used to read a lot of them, but never Clancy.

2. Anyone know the vesting status of these twirps? I suspect they all got fully vested and well paid, and many may be looking to move on. Vesting is a curse in the Valley - it locks deadwood into their cubes with no incentive to do anything except vest.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 16, 2022 02:24 PM (F5Fig)

97 The next Republican that wins a major office should remember this. It is very smart and easy to do and lets you know precisely who your saboteurs are.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:17 PM (t0OGg)

In theory, a great plan. When the organization is institutionally hostile to you by the thousands- like the CIA and FBI inevitably are- then start over. Abolish, sever, arrest. Then rehire from reliable sources.

It's no coincidence that Trump's best successes came in trade and foreign policy. A small number of saboteurs could have scuttled the efforts, but were apparently excluded. Including all of the State Department, apparently. By contrast, at DoJu stice it would be harder to find people with any sympathy to the Trump agenda.

Posted by: trev006 at November 16, 2022 02:25 PM (igJSL)

98 All that work would cut into my AoSHQ time...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 16, 2022 02:25 PM (YIVH2)

99 "49 What we don't know is what the incentive structure is."

This is the Incentive Structure:

"As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac El Dorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:25 PM (trdmm)

100 Read the whole thing.
Posted by Ace at 02:05 PM

After reading the 11 or so paragraphs posted, I thought I already did?!

Posted by: Grimmy at November 16, 2022 02:25 PM (JCZqz)

101 Slave labor I tell you
Leftists every where

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 16, 2022 02:25 PM (eQNwF)

102 Musk thinks he's the first boss to come up with the idea "hey, I'll just force our salaried guys to work mandatory 90 hour weeks. This will increase productivity greatly."

I'm cool with him dumping wokesters, woke positions, deadwood, incompetents, non-techie leeches, but he seems to have a hard-on for his entire workforce as of now.

Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:25 PM (24fqN)

103 @92

>>Maybe Trump can respond with another ad hominem, or juvenile pejorative.

That's baked into the beautiful, magnificent, everybody says so, Trump Cake.

Pompeo will probably get 0.5 pct of GOP primary votes.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 02:25 PM (hj2D/)

104 "Bankman" CEO who stole about 2 billion from FTX customers, much of which probably ended up in Democrat or Ukrainian coffers, will be extradited to the US. Where probably nothing will happen to him because of his political connections.

https://tinyurl.com/4xbhk96n

Posted by: Thrawn at November 16, 2022 02:26 PM (Rl7KJ)

105 "Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade."

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So for the small variation to track down leaders, I suest he use "amazeballs" instead of "exceptional"

Posted by: 496 at November 16, 2022 02:26 PM (Ig98H)

106 ... If you are a smart tech firm, you hire the best engineers that you can find, regardless of sex or skin color. ...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2022 02:24 PM (KCOCK)
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Not in the truly woke tech firms.

During our 2nd quarter meeting this year, the GM of our division said on the topic of hiring, "It is not about getting the best person for the job, it's about getting the best person for the job who contributes to our diversity."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:26 PM (t0OGg)

107 Clancy called it a Canary Trap. Been ages since I read the book it was in. Maybe Cardinal in the Kremlin?

Posted by: Dipper in AL at November 16, 2022 02:26 PM (mb4fR)

108 I speak from experience that I knew many IT workers who were skilled at creating an illusion of always being "busy" supporting other people and avoiding being asked to meet deadlines, but the wit and intellect they brought to the company were truly indispensable, in their minds.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 02:26 PM (F5ekr)

109 Your morning smile:

Elon Musk @elonmusk · 22h
Welcoming back Ligma & Johnson!

Important to admit when I’m wrong & firing them was truly one of my biggest mistakes

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/
1592619267803185152

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 16, 2022 02:26 PM (yikp0)

110 >>>96 1. I am pretty sure the individualized messages trick goes back at least to WWII, and I am pretty sure I saw it in a mid century spy novel but I don't recall which one. I used to read a lot of them, but never Clancy.

yeah, probably it's old... maybe going back to Rome old.

well, *I* first read about it in Clancy and he made ME think he was giving away some new, hitherto-unknown mole-hunting tech!

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2022 02:26 PM (C1Zwz)

111 Whiny little bitches getting canned makes my day.

What dumbasses.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 16, 2022 02:26 PM (ufFY8)

112 I am pretty sure the individualized messages trick goes back at least to WWII, and I am pretty sure I saw it in a mid century spy novel but I don't recall which one. I used to read a lot of them, but never Clancy.
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Shoot, Tyrion Lannister used it to find out who on the council was tattling to Cersei.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (ykBBE)

113 In theory, a great plan. When the organization is institutionally hostile to you by the thousands- like the CIA and FBI inevitably are- then start over. Abolish, sever, arrest. Then rehire from reliable sources. ...
Posted by: trev006 at November 16, 2022 02:25 PM (igJSL)
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No disagreement from me. I had things like direct staff in mind, not institutional malefactors.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (t0OGg)

114 I read the whole thing!!!

Posted by: eleven at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (iziT8)

115 103 That's baked into the beautiful, magnificent, everybody says so, Trump Cake.

Pompeo will probably get 0.5 pct of GOP primary votes.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 02:25 PM (hj2D/)

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Apparently, DeSantis has about $200 million in his campaign warchest. He's the only one with the money and the base appeal who could possibly take on Trump, and he just got re-elected. He's not going to announce a campaign for at least six months.

I just don't see any kind of way anyone pushes Trump aside.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (LvTSG)

116 Canary Trap was in Patriot Games

Posted by: Dipper in AL at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (mb4fR)

117 Clancy called it a Canary Trap. Been ages since I read the book it was in. Maybe Cardinal in the Kremlin?
Posted by: Dipper in AL at November 16, 2022 02:26 PM


I think that one may have appeared in Red October.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (tTAGJ)

118 for crimes so heinous they cannot even speculate about what they might turn out to eventually be, but they'll get to that sometime post-trial.

Rudy Giuliani was just cleared by NY prosecutors who admitted they couldn't charge him with anything.

Posted by: kallisto at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (dCxaZ)

119 That said, he works just as hard as everyone he employs. The man leads by example.

A key characteristic of good management.

Working less hard than your subordinates doesn't work.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (KCOCK)

120 I'm a "computer guy." I mean, that's my job. And for some reason that has a number of people in awe of me, like I have some special knowledge or a gigantic brain.
I can understand that attitude twenty or thirty years ago, but so much IT stuff (including programming) has become so simplified that I figure one of these years all our jobs are going to be taken over by computer programs and their human drones.

All that to say - it's time we start thinking of IT Professionals the same way we think about plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, coal miners, oil riggers or any other kind of tradesman. But for some reason the press & a big portion of our society puts these people on a pedestal, like they're something special. It just ain't true. It hasn't been true for several decades now. *

*Except for Pixy, who should stood in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid, with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at him.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (BJKQV)

121 102 Musk thinks he's the first boss to come up with the idea "hey, I'll just force our salaried guys to work mandatory 90 hour weeks. This will increase productivity greatly."

I'm cool with him dumping wokesters, woke positions, deadwood, incompetents, non-techie leeches, but he seems to have a hard-on for his entire workforce as of now.
Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:25 PM (24fqN)

It's a software company so it's not like he's being unusually demanding.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (eYoxG)

122 >>> Clancy called it a Canary Trap. Been ages since I read the book it was in. Maybe Cardinal in the Kremlin?

no I didn't read that one. I stopped reading after Clear and Present Danger, so that one or the earlier ones, or Red Storm Rising.

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (C1Zwz)

123 I will say this, Elon going to war with his own workforce is pretty amusing and largely unprecedented.

I really blame John Stewart for everything wrong with this country over the last 15 years.
==
This amuses me. It is wrong, but still funny. He was a symptom, not the cause. The cause is very deep. He was part of the culture. One of its rotten fruits, if you will. The Culture, like a tree, grows in the soil of what people worship. When they worship created things and not the creator, the tree fruits rotten.

Posted by: think it through at November 16, 2022 02:28 PM (uCghL)

124 Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bang Amber Heard.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (xcxpd)
___________________

She already sold her likeness to a fuck doll company?

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 02:28 PM (iFTx/)

125 So, I guess no more wine bar?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at November 16, 2022 02:28 PM (8Sqzu)

126 I really want Musk to buy an internet search engine, and regress the code about 5 years.

Really tired of getting page after page of the same 15 moderated results.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (oHd/0)

That's what I don't get. You search for something and it is pages of the same few results. I don't mean political stuff. I mean technical. How can they not see the same URL repeated page after page?

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 16, 2022 02:28 PM (EpDzw)

127 yeah maybe Red October

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2022 02:28 PM (C1Zwz)

128 wow...from the mitch bitch post:

chumer, she pointed out, does the same thing with liberal judges, and delivers on liberal wish-list legislation, and manages to not wage war against most of the party and avoids spending money to defeat them in primaries and eschews working with the Deep State to undermine a President of his own party he doesn't like but whom the American people elected.

...you guys get things you want, said the republicans

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 16, 2022 02:28 PM (MLrvz)

129 122 no I didn't read that one. I stopped reading after Clear and Present Danger, so that one or the earlier ones, or Red Storm Rising.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (C1Zwz)

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He wrote more than The Hunt for Red October? The rest of his books weren't just random words for hundreds of pages?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:28 PM (LvTSG)

130 Former WaPo writers that Foxnews seems to be hiring at a record pace imply that Pompeo will challenge Trump for the GOP nomination.

Maybe Trump can respond with another ad hominem, or juvenile pejorative.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2022 02:24 PM (OTvdu)

Hey, those perjoratives sent countless people into career death spirals. Including the entire population of Germany this winter.

Anyways, Pompeo AND Pence challenging for the GOP nomination is so rich I'm starting to think Trump allies are funding them...

Posted by: trev006 at November 16, 2022 02:28 PM (igJSL)

131 >>>116 Canary Trap was in Patriot Games


ah okay. I did read that one.

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2022 02:29 PM (C1Zwz)

132 The bloodletting at my company is going to be tremendous. We are likely to be acquired and many, many employees have been making their dissatisfaction with that likely occurrence very loudly known - both in internal forums and even in forums visible to the company that is likely to make a buyout offer.

I strongly suspect they will not be retained if it happens, and not one of them seems to consider the possibility of that outcome.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:12 PM (t0OGg

That happened at the place I worked. So many surprised faces when they couldn't log onto the company computers. And then came the calling of names over the PA system.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2022 02:29 PM (BdMk6)

133 Space Daddy made it into the Wiki for Canary Trap lol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canary_trap

Posted by: Dipper in AL at November 16, 2022 02:29 PM (mb4fR)

134 Amazon needs to contract with Musk to clean out the Alexa Department and their $5B a year losses.

Posted by: polynikes at November 16, 2022 02:29 PM (pAYE7)

135 112 I am pretty sure the individualized messages trick goes back at least to WWII, and I am pretty sure I saw it in a mid century spy novel but I don't recall which one. I used to read a lot of them, but never Clancy.
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Shoot, Tyrion Lannister used it to find out who on the council was tattling to Cersei.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (ykBBE)

LOL. I noted that the Russians had used it, but it probably started with the Germans. During the Cold War years, even the Russians were amazed by how fiendishly good their East German allies were at the espionage game.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:29 PM (trdmm)

136
I'm cool with him dumping wokesters, woke positions, deadwood, incompetents, non-techie leeches, but he seems to have a hard-on for his entire workforce as of now.
Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:25 PM (24fqN)

Well, maybe everyone at Twitter will quit.

That would be a *disaster*.

I don't know if we could recover from such a blow to the body politic.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2022 02:29 PM (oINRc)

137 The other day the captain came to my desk and asked how its going. I was in a mood and said, Well. I haven't shot up the place.

He laughed. Best captain I ever had.

***

I had a performance review back in the early 00's and my manager of some years asked me the usual question at the end "Where do you see yourself in 5 years?" and being my usual sarcastic self I said "Buck naked on a water tower with a rifle the way things are going."

He went on mute and his admin came on and said he would be back on the line after he got through laughing.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 16, 2022 02:29 PM (wb1YC)

138 "He wrote more than The Hunt for Red October? The rest of his books weren't just random words for hundreds of pages?"

I took a day off work just to read RSR cover to cover. I felt dirty afterward.

Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:30 PM (24fqN)

139 Queeg was right -- the Mess Boys had been eating the canned strawberries.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 16, 2022 02:30 PM (yikp0)

140 Defense Secretary Austin:

"WHATEVER THE OUTCOME OF THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT IN POLAND, RUSSIA IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE."

And when we bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, that was ultimately Yugoslavia's fault.

Team World War Three isn't going to give up easily.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2022 02:30 PM (KCOCK)

141 "Matt Taibbi is now a Reichwinger who is brainwashed by Faux News!"

Posted by: kallisto, imagining what demo-dummies are saying at November 16, 2022 02:30 PM (dCxaZ)

142 Low Energy Mike Pompeo!

Posted by: Weasel at November 16, 2022 02:30 PM (0IeYL)

143 That Bellenger guy looks like a real prize employee. Big loss to Twatter.

Why do all these leftwing twats look the same? You can spot them a mile away.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 02:11 PM (iFTx/)

Old and busted: the Challenger explosion.

The new hotness: the Bellenger expulsion.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2022 02:30 PM (JoSoX)

144 Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 16, 2022 02:26 PM (yikp0)


You're so slow you can't beat a dead guy.


Comment 24

Posted by: buzzion at November 16, 2022 02:30 PM (aRLgQ)

145 Map makers protect their copyright by putting a fake town or some such out in the sticks

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 16, 2022 02:30 PM (5EnGD)

146 120 I'm a "tech priest."

All that to say - it's time we start thinking of IT Professionals the same way we think about plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, coal miners, oil riggers or any other kind of tradesman. But for some reason the press & a big portion of our society puts these people on a pedestal, like they're something special. It just ain't true. It hasn't been true for several decades now. *

*Except for Pixy, who should stood in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid, with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at him.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:27 PM (BJKQV)

The Machine God has to be appeased by someone! But seriously, it is a byproduct of a tendency for people to mystify things they don't understand. Sometimes it gets lampshaded by calling it wizardry, such as financial wizardry.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 16, 2022 02:30 PM (eYoxG)

147 but the piece read like a parent's deranged fantasy about the impact of a child's friend who has a nose ring.

Very interesting Matt, your judgement is suspect.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ Donald Trump is the heartbeat of MAGA at November 16, 2022 02:31 PM (Q3Fh/)

148 I had a performance review back in the early 00's and my manager of some years asked me the usual question at the end "Where do you see yourself in 5 years?" and being my usual sarcastic self I said "Buck naked on a water tower with a rifle the way things are going."

He went on mute and his admin came on and said he would be back on the line after he got through laughing.
Posted by: Azathoth

😂😂😂😂

Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:31 PM (6hrvY)

149 Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bang Amber Heard.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (xcxpd)

I guess if you're going to violate Man Rule #1, you might as well go all out.

Posted by: pookysgirl, just chilling (literally) at November 16, 2022 02:31 PM (XKZwp)

150 I, for one, do not appreciate the demonization of cut 'n paste presented in this post. I find it to be a great asset.

Posted by: The Barrel at November 16, 2022 02:31 PM (a3Q+t)

151 Maybe I'm just being stupid again, but what in the fuck does anyone at Twitter even have to do?

Posted by: eleven at November 16, 2022 02:32 PM (iziT8)

152 I speak from experience that I knew many IT workers who were skilled at creating an illusion of always being "busy" supporting other people and avoiding being asked to meet deadlines, but the wit and intellect they brought to the company were truly indispensable, in their minds.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO

The tech equivalent of the old mill guy that made a career out of walking around carrying an (empty) toolbox.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 16, 2022 02:32 PM (LsEU/)

153 Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bang Amber Heard.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,


This guy is gonna be in deep shit.

Posted by: Johnny Depp at November 16, 2022 02:32 PM (ESjRY)

154 That's what I don't get. You search for something and it is pages of the same few results. I don't mean political stuff. I mean technical. How can they not see the same URL repeated page after page?

Google wants you to click on an ad.

The worse the search results, the more likely it is that you'll click on an ad.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2022 02:32 PM (KCOCK)

155 The other day the captain came to my desk and asked how its going. I was in a mood and said, Well. I haven't shot up the place.

He laughed. Best captain I ever had.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (BJ1wF)
++++
Ages ago, I had just started a job. I was in my first week of training. At the end of the day, I was in the elevator to go down and head home when my Sr. Director got in. She asked, "Hey, Joe! How's it going so far?" I replied - in what I thought was funny - "I think it's okay. You haven't fired me yet!"

She suddenly got very serious and said, "that is not an acceptable standard for you to hold yourself to."

Whoops.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:32 PM (t0OGg)

156 Note that the Musk tweet about apologizing for firing those geniuses was followed by a picture of him with the the guys who identified themselves as Johnson and Ligma who pretended to be fired on day one to reporters...

Posted by: American Hawkman at November 16, 2022 02:32 PM (VfMhS)

157 >>>151 Maybe I'm just being stupid again, but what in the fuck does anyone at Twitter even have to do?

i dunno. They fired half their workers and there hasn't been a detectable glitch.

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2022 02:32 PM (C1Zwz)

158 149 Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bang Amber Heard.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (xcxpd)

I guess if you're going to violate Man Rule #1, you might as well go all out.
Posted by: pookysgirl, just chilling (literally) at November 16, 2022 02:31 PM (XKZwp)

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Thanks to her I now understand the meaning of the idiom, "shit the bed."

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 02:33 PM (F5ekr)

159 I really want Musk to buy an internet search engine, and regress the code about 5 years.

Really tired of getting page after page of the same 15 moderated results.
Posted by: Romeo13

That's what I don't get. You search for something and it is pages of the same few results. I don't mean political stuff. I mean technical. How can they not see the same URL repeated page after page?
Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud
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Shit, it's everything -- me looking for military history stuff; art thread stuff; even just this a.m. when I was looking for Bill the Cat stuff. It's all crap.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 16, 2022 02:33 PM (yikp0)

160 I want to see Twitter 2.0 to become a raging success. People will flock to a new open platform, monkey coders will have blisters on their fingers and black rings around their eyes because they worked so hard. Then have Musk fire the lot of them. I hate these people. All of them.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 16, 2022 02:33 PM (pb6ET)

161 That's what I don't get. You search for something and it is pages of the same few results. I don't mean political stuff. I mean technical. How can they not see the same URL repeated page after page?
Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 16, 2022 02:28 PM (EpDzw)

I used google (lazy mistake) to search for a State Agency a couple days ago, I just needed to download a form. I typed in the name of the agency clearly, but the first two pages of results (and I clicked on a couple not realizing the game at first) were all to private online companies promising to find what I want for a Fee (of course) But all you have to do is go the to actual agency website and you can get what you want for free.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:33 PM (trdmm)

162 "She suddenly got very serious and said, "that is not an acceptable standard for you to hold yourself to.""

That time of the month.

Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:33 PM (24fqN)

163 Bitching about your boss is a time-honored tradition at every workplace. One might argue it's necessary for cohesion, camaraderie, and mental health, especially when your boss is a stupid fucking asshole. However, one does it discreetly and avoids detection. Unless one is stupid.

Posted by: Gotta bitch smart yo at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (pLSJi)

164 158 149 Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bang Amber Heard.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (xcxpd)

I guess if you're going to violate Man Rule #1, you might as well go all out.
Posted by: pookysgirl, just chilling (literally) at November 16, 2022 02:31 PM (XKZwp)

----
Thanks to her I now understand the meaning of the idiom, "shit the bed."
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 02:33 PM (F5ekr)

Is it really an idiom if it means what it says?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (eYoxG)

165 I'm off to shit in MAE's bed.

Peace out, Morons.

Posted by: Amber Heard at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (oINRc)

166 Gets rather old waking up each morning wondering if you've made the Our Betters Threat List.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (Xrfse)

167 Maybe I'm just being stupid again, but what in the fuck does anyone at Twitter even have to do?

Software companies constantly make changes, nominally to meet customer needs.

Notice MS Office looks different every couple of years? Or how Facebook slowly gets better at listening into conversations from your phone and serves you ads based on them?

But twitter is a really simple product so I'm guessing most of the employees were either doing nothing or censoring people.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (ESjRY)

168 Red Storm Rising was a great book. Might be riddled with inaccuracies but I loved it.

Posted by: 496 at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (dwdts)

169 now that the GOP House is certain, Schumer calls for amnesty...you know of the probably 40 million illegals living here now

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (MLrvz)

170 @45
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 16, 2022 02:17 PM (wtvvX)

Seconded!


I keep thinking it would be ideal to let all of DC do their thing in an insane asylum far, far away from any influence on the populace. Like a zoo where the tour guide calms fears by telling everyone "we let them to their own devices, but we don't let them know we aren't being 'ruled' any longer".

Ixnay.
Zips lips, turns key, tosses key out into the hay field.

Okay folks, let's move on to the DOJ section and see what's a goin' on round there!

Posted by: micky at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (3byMq)

171 That Bellinger chap looks like he has Down's Syndrome.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 16, 2022 02:16 PM (eGTCV)

More like "Go down" syndrome at the glory hole.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (JoSoX)

172 Not that he should need it but this is the model for Trump or anyone should they ever be allowed near the halls of power (lol) ever again.

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (I5Xzi)

173 Anyways, Pompeo AND Pence challenging for the GOP nomination is so rich I'm starting to think Trump allies are funding them...
==
Or Trump cut outs.

Posted by: Revenge is a dish best served cold at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (1ibJt)

174 What you really gotta watch out for is the Cannery Trap.

Posted by: John Steinbeck at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (x8HKZ)

175 She asked, "Hey, Joe! How's it going so far?" I replied - in what I thought was funny - "I think it's okay. You haven't fired me yet!"

She suddenly got very serious and said, "that is not an acceptable standard for you to hold yourself to."

Whoops.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


I joke here and on Facebook. Not in meatspace. Too many people can't take a joke.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (6hrvY)

176 OK, I know that Musk is no conservative. He's no champion of anything other than his bottom line.

I don't care. He's making a bunch of bullies cry and frankly, Twitter is more interesting these days.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (4olE8)

177 157 >>>151 Maybe I'm just being stupid again, but what in the fuck does anyone at Twitter even have to do?

i dunno. They fired half their workers and there hasn't been a detectable glitch.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2022 02:32 PM (C1Zwz)

Regrettably a fair chunk of the fired will probably go into political activism.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (eYoxG)

178 And yet the "Cognitive Elite" keep pushing these lunatic, juvenile hysterias every two weeks, completely forgetting that the last thing they said would literally Destroy Democracy, did not.

No, they don't "forget" any of this. They know that the Herd Mind will. It's like that line from MIB movie: "A person is smart, but people are dumb, panicky beasts." This is their way to get the sheeple herd to go where they want to.

Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (PWI4f)

179 @115

>>I just don't see any kind of way anyone pushes Trump aside.

See, here's the hilarious thing about the whole Trump/Desanis divide.

If elections are hopelessly rigged, how is DeSantis going to get those Democrat Ballots to throw their panties at him?

If elections aren't hopelessly rigged, and "candidate quality" really is a thing, DeSantis is essentially a slightly more refined Trump, remember, Florida is where woke goes to die. And the media will paint him as the second coming of Trump. Are the same ballots that pulled the lever for a dead guy and a literal meat sack going to tabulate their ballots for DeSantis?

I say we run the genuine article Trump instead of the New Coke version of Trump and let New Coke remain being an awesome Governor of a Red State and act as a bulwark against a tyrannical, feral federal government.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (hj2D/)

180 Hey, Joe! How's it going so far?" I replied - in what I thought was funny - "I think it's okay. You haven't fired me yet!"

She suddenly got very serious and said, "that is not an acceptable standard for you to hold yourself to."

Whoops.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:32 PM (t0OGg)

I hope you later found out that she actually did have a sense of humor and did not take every comment literally.

Posted by: polynikes at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (pAYE7)

181 The journalist/pundit class of the revolutionary left are acting as evil as their predecessors of the French Revolution. They are actively stoking violence and insurrection against their claimed enemies.

What a lovely nation we would have if more of them would finally take a dirt nap?

Posted by: Spiff The Spaceman at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (lfSFb)

182 Musk for Galactic President!
Posted by: runner

THAT'S MY JOB!

Posted by: Stacy Abrams, SHE'S A PLANET! at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (vcOmj)

183 Software companies constantly make changes, nominally to meet customer needs.

Twitter does very little in the way of user-visible changes. They had an entire climate change team that Musk fired, however.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 02:36 PM (ZGrMX)

184 The way Pompeo took down Obama's intelligence guy was amazing. Unfortunately he was part of the swamp. You pick a side in DC and end up hating both.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 16, 2022 02:36 PM (44ww/)

185 the Bellenger expulsion.
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Sounds like an episode of The Big Bang Threory.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 16, 2022 02:36 PM (ykBBE)

186 The Machine God has to be appeased by someone! But seriously, it is a byproduct of a tendency for people to mystify things they don't understand. Sometimes it gets lampshaded by calling it wizardry, such as financial wizardry.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 16, 2022 02:30 PM (eYoxG)

When my son was going through diesel mechanic school he learned about automatic transmissions. I decided to learn along with him. I would rather repair a thousand Windows Vista installations than rebuild one automatic transmission.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:36 PM (BJKQV)

187 LA driver plows into sheriff's recruits during morning jog, injuring 22

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Is there nothing those mega MAGA maniacs won't do?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at November 16, 2022 02:36 PM (IUVyL)

188 That happened at the place I worked. So many surprised faces when they couldn't log onto the company computers. And then came the calling of names over the PA system.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2022 02:29 PM (BdMk6)

My fav IT lay off story? I was lead Instructor for a Tech Training Company in Denver, but I also ran the network... hired most of the subordinate trainers... then we got bought out. 1 year later they decided to cut costs and even though I was the Senior Trainer, they would get rid of my position (ie, wanted me personally gone). But first they KNEW I had been running the network for years, so asked me for a someone good to run a Security Audit of the Network.... gave them the name of a really good IT Security guy with great Credentials! They hired him, with the view to be able to lock me out.

Problem? Guy was an old Military friend of mine who was going through a Divorce... and was living at my house while doing so.

They then fired me... er... illegally downsized me (as my actual job title on my contract was Technical instructor... and they would have had to downsize Junior before Senior). But I let it go...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 16, 2022 02:36 PM (oHd/0)

189 I used google (lazy mistake) to search for a State Agency a couple days ago, I just needed to download a form. I typed in the name of the agency clearly, but the first two pages of results (and I clicked on a couple not realizing the game at first) were all to private online companies promising to find what I want for a Fee (of course) But all you have to do is go the to actual agency website and you can get what you want for free.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:33 PM (trdmm)

Oh yes. I have run into that too. Honestly, that should be considered fraud. Had to dig through a ton of links before finding the state site for license plate renewal.

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 16, 2022 02:36 PM (EpDzw)

190 I saw a comment on another website predicting Musk will destroy Twitter.
Too bad for him but that would be a net good for society.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 16, 2022 02:36 PM (eGTCV)

191 Or Trump cut outs.
Posted by: Revenge is a dish best served cold at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (1ibJt)

Don't be silly, the donor responsible is, ah, Donaldino El Trumpo?

Once again, I've been had.

Posted by: trev006 at November 16, 2022 02:37 PM (igJSL)

192 You're so slow you can't beat a dead guy.

Comment 24
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Here you go, smarty-pants!

||127 Elon Musk @elonmusk
Welcoming back Ligma & Johnson!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/
1592618665933156352

[includes photo]
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 15, 2022 08:19 PM (yikp0)||

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 16, 2022 02:37 PM (yikp0)

193 179 I say we run the genuine article Trump instead of the New Coke version of Trump and let New Coke remain being an awesome Governor of a Red State and act as a bulwark against a tyrannical, feral federal government.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (hj2D/)

=========

I think it's just time to give up on the federal government. We need strong governors who are willing to break with the federal government as much as possible.

One day, we may end up with a governor in a red state that floats the idea of state specific currency. That's when things get sporty.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:37 PM (LvTSG)

194 "the Bellenger expulsion."

by Robert Ludlum.

Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:37 PM (24fqN)

195 "...Musk -- consumed with the fear that disloyal employees will sabotage the platform ..."

I don't think he's consumed with fear...

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at November 16, 2022 02:37 PM (Rbu5d)

196 I hope you later found out that she actually did have a sense of humor and did not take every comment literally.
Posted by: polynikes at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (pAYE7)
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Power of and.

She did have a sense of humor and was actually a very good section chief. She didn't know me, and I didn't know her. I was new, and I was young. She didn't know if I meant it or not. I know this because a goodly while later, I brought it up for some reason and she started laughing about it.

It was a valuable lesson for me. Don't be a smartass before you've earned it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:38 PM (t0OGg)

197 I saw a comment on another website predicting Musk will destroy Twitter.

That's a common sentiment amongst the Acela class, but there's no metrics indicating that it's right.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 02:38 PM (ZGrMX)

198
Employees who have criticized Elon Musk in Twitter's Slack channels were fired overnight over email.

________

Helpful hint: if you're going to criticize your employer, don't use the employer's resources to do it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 16, 2022 02:38 PM (MoZTd)

199 He wrote more than The Hunt for Red October? The rest of his books weren't just random words for hundreds of pages?

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The worst part was when he made it REALLY big and started having other people write his books for his Brand or whatever while still pretending to be him. His first six or eight or so I really enjoyed (mainly the geeky weapon stuff), and then it was like reading a word generator produce subsequent books using sentences and paragraphs from the prior books.

You knew the words were different, but they really weren't. It's just robotic and weird.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 16, 2022 02:38 PM (Vr7n8)

200 Twitter does very little in the way of user-visible changes. They had an entire climate change team that Musk fired, however.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 02:36 PM (ZGrMX)

Yeah. Social media has pretty much been stagnant for at least a decade now. Once the big companies took over everything innovation went out the window.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:38 PM (BJKQV)

201 153 Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bang Amber Heard.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

I hear she does butt stuff-----to your bed.

Posted by: whig at November 16, 2022 02:38 PM (CXr4y)

202
The way Pompeo took down Obama's intelligence guy was amazing. Unfortunately he was part of the swamp. You pick a side in DC and end up hating both.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 16, 2022 02:36 PM (44ww/)

It comes down to rooting for whichever thug you've decided is better for you, personally.

If you have any beliefs about anything, the US government is not for you.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2022 02:38 PM (oINRc)

203 Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to bang Amber Heard.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM


Performance Evaluation criteria:

Exceptional: Donuts instead of skid marks.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 16, 2022 02:38 PM (a3Q+t)

204 Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 16, 2022 02:37 PM (yikp0)

Not this thread though

Posted by: buzzion at November 16, 2022 02:38 PM (aRLgQ)

205 One day, we may end up with a governor in a red state that floats the idea of state specific currency. That's when things get sporty.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:37 PM (LvTSG)
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GatorCoin

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (+WZ08)

206 Anyone else remember when the Internet was fun, innovative and free?

Good times.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (BJKQV)

207 As more people jump into the primary, it gives Trump more opportunities to show his ass. And he will Show his big, beautiful ass every chance he gets.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (OTvdu)

208 I saw a comment on another website predicting Musk will destroy Twitter.
Too bad for him but that would be a net good for society.
Posted by: That NLurker guy


You don't become the richest guy on the planet by being stupid.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (6hrvY)

209
I joke here and on Facebook. Not in meatspace. Too many people can't take a joke.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (6hrvY)

its a joke not a dick. don't take it so hard.

have had a meeting or two with HR over that one.

Posted by: Spiff The Spaceman at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (lfSFb)

210 Musk -- consumed with the fear that disloyal employees will sabotage the platform ..

Temba, his arms wide

Posted by: That one ST:TNG episode at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (pLSJi)

211 Defense Secretary Austin:

"WHATEVER THE OUTCOME OF THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT IN POLAND, RUSSIA IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE."

And when we bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, that was ultimately Yugoslavia's fault.

Team World War Three isn't going to give up easily.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

That guy Austin....he's a dick!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (vcOmj)

212 Twitter hasn't run a profit since 2019. If they go under it won't be because of Musk

Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (ESjRY)

213 I used google (lazy mistake) to search for a State Agency a couple days ago, I just needed to download a form. I typed in the name of the agency clearly, but the first two pages of results (and I clicked on a couple not realizing the game at first) were all to private online companies promising to find what I want for a Fee (of course) But all you have to do is go the to actual agency website and you can get what you want for free.
Posted by: Tom Servo

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I guarantee lots of elderly and ignorant young people are suckered in by those. They wouldn't do it otherwise.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (Vr7n8)

214 Gets rather old waking up each morning wondering if you've made the Our Betters Threat List.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (Xrfse)

You comment here. You're on on several lists.

Fuck them.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (Gibjk)

215 199 You knew the words were different, but they really weren't. It's just robotic and weird.
Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 16, 2022 02:38 PM (Vr7n

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I tried to get into Clancy's work in high school, and I gave up somewhere in the first fifty pages of The Sum of All Fears. I wasn't reading them in order, or anything, but I just couldn't take it anymore.

Of course, I did the same thing with Stephen King, and I've since revisited King and am now nearing the end of Cujo.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (LvTSG)

216 All these technobabies are on power trips with their imagined self-importance.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (sVtYq)

217 "Wow - these lay-off lists just write themselves" - E.M.

Posted by: Roy at November 16, 2022 02:40 PM (KQfR7)

218 205 GatorCoin
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (+WZ0

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CockDollars in South Carolina.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:40 PM (LvTSG)

219 Yeah. Social media has pretty much been stagnant for at least a decade now. Once the big companies took over everything innovation went out the window.
Posted by: 29Victor
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The innovation was how they sold user information to buyers. The users were already hooked by psychological conditioning.

Posted by: whig at November 16, 2022 02:40 PM (CXr4y)

220 166 Gets rather old waking up each morning wondering if you've made the Our Betters Threat List.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (Xrfse)

I stopped wondering when I realized I was probably on a few unknown threat lists. Stopping the worry and just accepting it takes a lot of the pressure off.


Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2022 02:40 PM (BdMk6)

221 ... "WHATEVER THE OUTCOME OF THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT IN POLAND, RUSSIA IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE." ...
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Ah, I see that Austin went to the DoJ School of Investigations.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:40 PM (t0OGg)

222 I'm laughing at that Bellenger wuss's picture. It's exactly like one would imagine. He probably went through 100 poses to find that very one.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 16, 2022 02:40 PM (sVtYq)

223
CockDollars in South Carolina.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:40 PM (LvTSG)

I'm game.

Posted by: Steve Spurrier at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (pLSJi)

224 I imagine the Twitter workforce will wind up considerably more male than it was previously.

The tech field is already going to be skewed male, as is. But I think the virtue-signaling class is going to be predominately female, save for the males that join it in an effort to ingratiate themselves to the ladies at work.

In the end, I think most men will put away their fake leftism when they realize it will not score them any snatch. They will have to score the old fashioned way, by going to bars and bragging how they know Elon Musk to the gold-diggers at the bar hoping to get free margaritas.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (6xbVH)

225 214 Gets rather old waking up each morning wondering if you've made the Our Betters Threat List.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (Xrfse)

You comment here. You're on on several lists.

Fuck them.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (Gibjk)

Donations will do it as well.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (eYoxG)

226 Anyone else remember when the Internet was fun, innovative and free?

-

I think that's part of what is so appealing about the HQ. It feels like pre-2005 internet. Back before Facebook homogenized everything.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (Vr7n8)

227 Regrettably a fair chunk of the fired will probably go into political activism.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (eYoxG)

probably not, they hardly have the skills there and no red wine on tap.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (eoQWY)

228 Maybe I'm old fashioned, but the fact that so many of these former Twitter employees seem surprised when they get fired for publicly badmouthing the company/boss seems odd to me. In what other industry wouldn't you just expect to be fired for the crap they try to pull? Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:12 PM (BJKQV)

that really cool Marxist prof that told you that dissent was golden and was a fundamental right of the thinking class.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (xhaym)

229 @201
Can she be trained to use a bed pan?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (F5ekr)

230 The Machine God has to be appeased by someone!
-------------------
The Sons of Martha
Rudyard Kipling
1865 (Mumbai) – 1936 (London)

The Sons of Mary seldom bother, for they have inherited that good part;
But the Sons of Martha favour their Mother of the careful soul and the troubled heart.
And because she lost her temper once, and because she was rude to the Lord her Guest,
Her Sons must wait upon Mary's Sons, world without end, reprieve, or rest.

It is their care in all the ages to take the buffet and cushion the shock.
It is their care that the gear engages; it is their care that the switches lock.
It is their care that the wheels run truly; it is their care to embark and entrain,
Tally, transport, and deliver duly the Sons of Mary by land and main.

https://tinyurl.com/taacsp5y

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (yikp0)

231 With your employees fking off most of the day, have a few hundred dollars lunch on the company, probably great vacation package how do you make a profit?

Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (xhxe8)

232 That happened at the place I worked. So many surprised faces when they couldn't log onto the company computers. And then came the calling of names over the PA system.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2022 02:29 PM (BdMk6)

I repeatedly ask my clients to inform me that an employee is being laid off before they inform the employee. It's just common sense.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (BJKQV)

233 This amuses me. It is wrong, but still funny. He was a symptom, not the cause. The cause is very deep. He was part of the culture. One of its rotten fruits, if you will. The Culture, like a tree, grows in the soil of what people worship. When they worship created things and not the creator, the tree fruits rotten.
Posted by: think it through at November 16, 2022 02:28 PM (uCghL)

Good point; this is the ultimate answer to why *everything* has gone bad over the last 30 years; our schools, our government, our professions - the country has lost its virtue. Our culture has become poisonous and has corrupted everything it touches.

Once a nation has lost its virtue, it is no longer possible for it to be a "good" country. There will be nothing but endless internal bickering about the flavor of bad that will dominate.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (trdmm)

234 I got pulled into HR once.

One of my coworkers had said something to me like, "We have to get this project done to the letter or the customer will f*ck us in the ass"

Another cow-worker reported him supposedly on my behalf for sexual harassment and HR had to follow up. I was...shocked. The guy wasn't hitting on me. He was giving me advice. It was so damn stupid.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (ESjRY)

235 Gets rather old waking up each morning wondering if you've made the Our Betters Threat List.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 16, 2022 02:34 PM (Xrfse)

I stopped wondering when I realized I was probably on a few unknown threat lists. Stopping the worry and just accepting it takes a lot of the pressure off.


Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons

I stopped worrying when I got my CHL.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (6hrvY)

236 231 With your employees fking off most of the day, have a few hundred dollars lunch on the company, probably great vacation package how do you make a profit?
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (xhxe

Volume.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (BJKQV)

237 "A person is smart, but people are dumb, panicky beasts."
==
I thought that was in the Fugitive, or maybe it was US Marshalls.

Anyway it was Def Tommy Lee Jones.

Posted by: Yup at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (WOF+X)

238 Firing employees for being disloyal? If only Republicans could do that in the government!

Posted by: Isophorone at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (/DCxd)

239
Gave up on Clancy when his books started stepping outside of the covert world (RSR excepted). That and the fact that they weren't written, just typed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (MoZTd)

240 "CockDollars in South Carolina.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:40 PM (LvTSG)"

Quick story. Two guys in my office went there. One guy walks into a meeting during the season, sees the other guy and says, you guessed it, "Go cocks!". A few women in the meeting were horrified .

Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (OTvdu)

241 Elon Musk is incredible smart. Politics makes a sport out of dismissing. Eisenhower was a big dummy, serious guys.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (44ww/)

242 I have a feeling that a lot of people who hate Musk today were fan boys pre his purchase of Twitter.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (eGTCV)

243 234 Another cow-worker reported him supposedly on my behalf for sexual harassment and HR had to follow up. I was...shocked. The guy wasn't hitting on me. He was giving me advice. It was so damn stupid.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (ESjRY)

=========

The proper response would have been to file a complaint against the guy who filed a complaint.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (LvTSG)

244 216 All these technobabies are on power trips with their imagined self-importance.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (sVtYq)

Technobabies... gonna steal that term.... I always find it amusing when they tell me, well, if you don't like the way the internet is going, create your own.

Uh, Network Engineer since before there was even a job title Network engineer... WE DID... you all just stole it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (oHd/0)

245 The moment I'm governor of I'm my state, priority #1 is yDollar, and priority #2 is yDefense Force. Then my transportation initiative, yDrive. The rest of it can twiat in the wind, along with our severed ties to the federal government.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (oINRc)

246 202
'If you have any beliefs about anything, the US government is not for you.'

Sadly, that is where you are wrong. If you have pro-BLM, pro-LBGT!#^, pro-COVID Hysteria, pro - government coercion beliefs, the US Government is very much for you.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 16, 2022 02:43 PM (T/s40)

247 "We have to get this project done to the letter or the customer will f*ck us in the ass"

You had that customer too?

Posted by: gp's Limited Interaction Potential at November 16, 2022 02:43 PM (24fqN)

248 A person is smart; people are dumb, dangerous, panicky animals, and you know it.

Posted by: Agent K at November 16, 2022 02:43 PM (pLSJi)

249 Men in Black Tommy Lee Jones

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 16, 2022 02:43 PM (44ww/)

250 I saw a comment on another website predicting Musk will destroy Twitter.

That's a common sentiment amongst the Acela class, but there's no metrics indicating that it's right.
Posted by: Ian S.

I don't see Elon Musk wanting to burn up $44 Billion dollars, which he spent to buy Twitter.
I think he has big plans for it, but it will not be quite what it was.
Part of it is turning it into a platform to sell and make it "sort of" like PayPal.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at November 16, 2022 02:43 PM (vcOmj)

251
I tried to get into Clancy's work in high school, and I gave up somewhere in the first fifty pages of The Sum of All Fears. I wasn't reading them in order, or anything, but I just couldn't take it anymore.

Of course, I did the same thing with Stephen King, and I've since revisited King and am now nearing the end of Cujo.

--

Ha. I had that same experience with King. Except for the gunslinger novels I realized I never really liked any of his stuff. His ideas were fine, but his writing style wasn't for me.

One thing I've learned over the years is to never, ever re-visit those books you enjoyed in high school and college. They were horribly bad. Just enjoy the memory.

(looking at you, Still Life With Woodpecker)

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 16, 2022 02:43 PM (Vr7n8)

252 I used google the other day to research my tricare options. I just wanted the Tricare Select main info page. I had to scroll down the whole first page to get to it. All the first links were marketplace links. Should have just typed in the link myself.

Posted by: Quirky bookworm at November 16, 2022 02:43 PM (gBvlU)

253 @CockDollars in South Carolina.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:40 PM (LvTSG)
---
How about CockPounds (ala pound sterling).

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 02:43 PM (F5ekr)

254 186 29 Victor, I wouldn't know where to start with an automatic transmission. A friend of mine worked for a sheltered workshop, mentally retarded (can we say that) kids, autistic, whatever as a counselor/production manager. There was a transmission shop that would hire some of them, giving training on one and only one type of transmission. Amazing stuff, the kids did a good job. Maybe just repetitive work.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 16, 2022 02:43 PM (lz5hY)

255 Another cow-worker reported him supposedly on my behalf for sexual harassment and HR had to follow up. I was...shocked. The guy wasn't hitting on me. He was giving me advice. It was so damn stupid.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (ESjRY)
++++
Heh. Happened to a coworker of mine. He was trying to explain to a particularly dense project manager why hurling more people at the problem wouldn't solve it one minute faster. After being asked to explain it for about the sixth time in the same meeting, he finally got frustrated and said, "because nine women can't make a baby in one month!"

Somebody in the meeting - still don't know who - reported him to HR for it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (t0OGg)

256 You comment here. You're on on several lists.

Fuck them.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 16, 2022 02:39 PM (Gibjk)

LOL. This is true.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (BdMk6)

257 Normie media is filled with stories claiming voters have rejected Trump, MAGA, and election deniers so they should just go away. It's conclusive. Well, even the numbers they post (if you believe them) show losses in the range of a percent or two. Gee, that's "conclusive"

Posted by: azjaeger at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (unORU)

258 Did anyone beside me think the ex-Twitter crybaby should spell his name James Bellend-ger?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (T/s40)

259 240 Quick story. Two guys in my office went there. One guy walks into a meeting during the season, sees the other guy and says, you guessed it, "Go cocks!". A few women in the meeting were horrified .
Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (OTvdu)

==========

I had a pair of workmates who went to San Francisco for a trip. The younger one was walking all around with his USC stuff on, including a hat that just said COCKS.

He could not understand why all the gay men were looking him...that way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (LvTSG)

260 @221

>>Ah, I see that Austin went to the DoJ School of Investigations.

Our thug LE/IC/Deep State apparatus essentially live by rule 13 of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.

Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.


It's essentially what we have lived through in the Trump years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (hj2D/)

261 Anyway it was Def Tommy Lee Jones.
Posted by: Yup at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (WOF+X)
++++
It was, and it was from Men in Black.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (t0OGg)

262 Yeah. Social media has pretty much been stagnant for at least a decade now. Once the big companies took over everything innovation went out the window.

Twitter bought Vine (the original version of TikTok/YouTube Shorts), integrated it into Twitter, and then almost immediately killed it. Which allowed TikTok to take off. They smothered innovation with a pillow and the ChiComs ate their lunch.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (ZGrMX)

263 Im a dumb drywaller so screw these tech fags. Learn to sheet rock soy bitches.

OT
https://tinyurl.com/2nz43yes

I tinyurl'd the link from Tommy Robinson Official Gab, so I hope it works here. Maricopa hears from a constituent.

Posted by: Fool Otto at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (DB16e)

264 It feels like pre-2005 internet. Back before Facebook homogenized everything.
Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy

Heh, he said 'homo'.
Heh heh, and 'Gay Anal' is in his nic.

Posted by: Bevis at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (LsEU/)

265 You comment here. You're on on several lists.

Oh, I have no doubt. I just don't grok why. I guess that doesn't matter anymore. Sigh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (Xrfse)

266 207 As more people jump into the primary, it gives Trump more opportunities to show his ass. And he will Show his big, beautiful ass every chance he gets. Posted by: Marcus T

So, the way things are going most people hate who is in government and people have even more contempt for former government types gone grifting.

I doubt Trump will start something but if they criticize him then they are fair game for being criticized. Bush style shit of grinning and bearing it is a negative nowadays.

Posted by: whig at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (CXr4y)

267 It is their care in all the ages to take the buffet
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM


I relieve them.

Posted by: Michael Moore at November 16, 2022 02:45 PM (a3Q+t)

268 234 Another cow-worker reported him supposedly on my behalf for sexual harassment and HR had to follow up. I was...shocked. The guy wasn't hitting on me. He was giving me advice. It was so damn stupid.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (ESjRY)
---
That's the modern sexual harassment standards for you. Even if someone overheard you talking and could potentially, maybe, remotely interpret your comment as "offensive" they are obligated to report it to HR. Even if they weren't part of the conversation and have no context for what was said.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 16, 2022 02:45 PM (YIVH2)

269 Anyone else remember when the Internet was fun, innovative and free?


96 - 99 Usenet bulletin boards.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:45 PM (6hrvY)

270 The innovation was how they sold user information to buyers. The users were already hooked by psychological conditioning.
Posted by: whig at November 16, 2022 02:40 PM (CXr4y)

You're so right. Any innovation went in to monetizing the user base and securing their monopiles.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:45 PM (BJKQV)

271 238 Firing employees for being disloyal? If only Republicans could do that in the government!
Posted by: Isophorone at November 16, 2022 02:42 PM (/DCxd)

That's fascists!
-Democrats

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 16, 2022 02:45 PM (eYoxG)

272 Not this thread though
Posted by: buzzion
--------------
Barrack-room lawyer!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 16, 2022 02:45 PM (yikp0)

273 Anyone else remember when the Internet was fun, innovative and free?

I've told young-ins about when the internet was basically completely unmoderated.

But weren't there NAZIs and racists? Yeah and we told them to f*ck off and went on our merry, free way.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:46 PM (ESjRY)

274 "WHATEVER THE OUTCOME OF THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT IN POLAND, RUSSIA IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE." ...
Posted by: The ARC of History!
++++
Ah, I see that Austin went to the DoJ School of Investigations.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:40 PM (t0OGg)

He already knows the outcome or he would not be this... strident. Thus.. Ukrainian missile.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 16, 2022 02:46 PM (oHd/0)

275 227 Regrettably a fair chunk of the fired will probably go into political activism.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 16, 2022 02:35 PM (eYoxG)

probably not, they hardly have the skills there and no red wine on tap.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (eoQWY)

there was a very good piece from a writer in Sweden a couple days ago (misplaced the link) in which he compared our current problem to that France faced in the 18th century; they had thousands of entitled, but penniless, members of the nobility who had no actual talents whatsoever, but the State felt the need to find ways to support them on the backs of the working classes.

We now have to figure out as a society what we do with tens of thousands of socially well connected wokesters who have no actual job skills of any kind, but who feel incredibly entitled.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:46 PM (trdmm)

276 One of my coworkers had said something to me like, "We have to get this project done to the letter or the customer will f*ck us in the ass"

Another cow-worker reported him supposedly on my behalf for sexual harassment and HR had to follow up. I was...shocked. The guy wasn't hitting on me. He was giving me advice. It was so damn stupid.

***

I worked on a military classified contract the first 12 years of my career. At our weekly status meetings, every third response to the current status request was " Like a monkey f****** a football.". Other acceptable responses were "it's a goat rope", "Chinese fire drill", and "clusterfuck".

Posted by: Azathoth at November 16, 2022 02:46 PM (wb1YC)

277 Let's start a fight with the guy who can make his own rocket propelled self driving IEDs.

Posted by: DOJ Genius 3.14 at November 16, 2022 02:46 PM (FhXTo)

278
Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:46 PM (ESjRY)

Uh huh.

I remember when everything worked right, too.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2022 02:47 PM (oINRc)

279 Anyone else remember when the Internet was fun, innovative and free?

--

Back when you'd click on a website in December and snow would cascade down the pages.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 16, 2022 02:47 PM (sVtYq)

280 This is great. Fire everyone and hire AoSHQ morons instead.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Wyatt, you are in Philly right? Speaking of firings, any chance that DA Krasner gets the boot?

Posted by: Cheri at November 16, 2022 02:47 PM (oiNtH)

281 The "corrupt political establishment" has already been unmasked. And that story was suffocated by the mass media, and will never get popular traction.

Posted by: T C at November 16, 2022 02:47 PM (6aZ5k)

282 269 Anyone else remember when the Internet was fun, innovative and free?


96 - 99 Usenet bulletin boards.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:45 PM (6hrvY)

Alt newsgroups. So much pr0n. So. Much. Pr0n.

Posted by: Glory days at November 16, 2022 02:47 PM (pLSJi)

283 They smothered innovation with a pillow and the ChiComs ate their lunch.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (ZGrMX)

They smother anything that may lower their user base, which is their source of revenue. They're not social media companies anymore, they're user farms.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:47 PM (BJKQV)

284 That's the modern sexual harassment standards for you. Even if someone overheard you talking and could potentially, maybe, remotely interpret your comment as "offensive" they are obligated to report it to HR.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I do know that it is monumentally beneficial to be holding a piece of fruit when you say "Nice pair!"

Posted by: Tonypete at November 16, 2022 02:47 PM (LsEU/)

285 If you comment here, you are on a list. You will eventually get an ear worm. Every time there's a knock on the door, you'll hear the theme music from the movie "Z".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 16, 2022 02:47 PM (lz5hY)

286 I can not read the text "Hey Joe" without finishing the sentence in my head.... "where you going with that gun in your hand."


My favorite layoff story was when HR just turned off their key cards so they could not get into the building to find out they were laid off. When they got in their phones didn't work and they couldn't log onto their computers. .... HR had to go around the buildings hunting for these people to fire.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 16, 2022 02:47 PM (F5Fig)

287 @269

>>96 - 99 Usenet bulletin boards.

I ran numerous BBS's in the 80's, that sure was fun.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 02:48 PM (hj2D/)

288 One guy walks into a meeting during the season, sees the other guy and says, you guessed it, "Go cocks!". A few women in the meeting were horrified .
==
You ain't lived a full life, until you've gone to a S. Carolina home game and heard the crowd chanting You Cain't Lick Our Cocks!!!

Posted by: Yup at November 16, 2022 02:48 PM (mBBFB)

289 I worked on a military classified contract the first 12 years of my career. At our weekly status meetings, every third response to the current status request was " Like a monkey f****** a football.". Other acceptable responses were "it's a goat rope", "Chinese fire drill", and "clusterfuck".
Posted by: Azathoth at November 16, 2022 02:46 PM (wb1YC)
---
Those are all codewords for "nukes," right?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 16, 2022 02:48 PM (YIVH2)

290 Leftwing bosses would never be expected to put up with "problematic" right-leaning employees.

Being a freewheeling free-thinker is right-leaning? Sure, I'll take it.

Posted by: t-bird at November 16, 2022 02:48 PM (hPvGe)

291 96 - 99 Usenet bulletin boards.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:45 PM (6hrvY)
++++
And that was *after* Eternal September, which turned Usenet into an unmitigated hellscape per the Usenet veterans.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:48 PM (t0OGg)

292 Anyone else remember when the Internet was fun, innovative and free?

USENET before Tim Berners-Lee invented HTML. alt.flame was glorious.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 02:48 PM (ZGrMX)

293
96 - 99 Usenet bulletin boards.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:45 PM (6hrvY)

__________

rec.sports.baseball: sober opinions backed by solid analysis.

rec.music.opera: queens and assorted fags screaming anti-Semitic insults at each other.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 16, 2022 02:48 PM (MoZTd)

294 Back when you'd click on a website in December and snow would cascade down the pages.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 16, 2022 02:47 PM (sVtYq)


Heh. Airliners.net still does that ...

Posted by: spindrift at November 16, 2022 02:48 PM (h5TKJ)

295 Anyone else remember when the Internet was fun, innovative and free?



Back when you'd click on a jpeg in December and bewbs might show up by January?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:48 PM (6hrvY)

296 State scrip is a sure sign of a strong Union.

Posted by: Mitch McFailure at November 16, 2022 02:49 PM (x8HKZ)

297 If you were a newsgroup, you'd be alt.total.loser

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:49 PM (t0OGg)

298
To all who worry about lists: you're on one.

Ferpetessake's... we've known for years that our government monitors even the hobby sites for political wrongthink.

"Mapping the human terrain," they call it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2022 02:49 PM (oINRc)

299 It's amazing that these twatter morons don't understand that Musk is desperate to drastically cut the workforce and is just looking for excuses to fire people. What these idiots are doing are fireable offenses on their own, but in this climate you'd think employees would be doubly or triply careful not to do or say anything that might give the boss an excuse to fire them.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 02:49 PM (iFTx/)

300 there was a very good piece from a writer in Sweden a couple days ago (misplaced the link) in which he compared our current problem to that France faced in the 18th century; they had thousands of entitled, but penniless, members of the nobility who had no actual talents whatsoever, but the State felt the need to find ways to support them on the backs of the working classes.

We now have to figure out as a society what we do with tens of thousands of socially well connected wokesters who have no actual job skills of any kind, but who feel incredibly entitled.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:46 PM (trdmm)

The original deal with the lower nobility to curtail the upper nobility (No more Dukes of Burgundy!) involved them getting reliable jobs (including in the military). Problem is, each of these lower nobles have a bunch of kids who also need government jobs and this rapidly becomes unsustainable.

The Frondeurs were right!(maybe, honestly things probably would've gone bad just in some other fashion in the end)

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 16, 2022 02:50 PM (eYoxG)

301 Really bad lay off story was Youngstown Sheet and Tube, early 70s (Tonypete, you around?) . 5K laid off overnight, no notice, no nuttin.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 16, 2022 02:50 PM (lz5hY)

302 Usenet bulletin boards.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:45 PM


Perhaps my least favorite part of the early Internet.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at November 16, 2022 02:50 PM (a3Q+t)

303 >>>Anyone else remember when the Internet was fun, innovative and free?



Those days are gone forever. The Internet turned into a toxic cesspool, with people scouting at each other, pay walls for sites we never liked, and Overlords who hate conservatives.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2022 02:50 PM (d2bW3)

304 rec.sports.baseball: sober opinions backed by solid analysis.

rec.music.opera: queens and assorted fags screaming anti-Semitic insults at each other.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


misc.suvivalism (Y2k) & tx.guns (gun issues in Texas)

Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:50 PM (6hrvY)

305 Maybe I'm old fashioned, but the fact that so many of these former Twitter employees seem surprised when they get fired for publicly badmouthing the company/boss seems odd to me. In what other industry wouldn't you just expect to be fired for the crap they try to pull? Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:12 PM (BJKQV)

that really cool Marxist prof that told you that dissent was golden and was a fundamental right of the thinking class.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 16, 2022 02:41 PM (xhaym)

Ha. You dissent in a marxist cell and they find you with a bullet in your head.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 02:50 PM (eoQWY)

306
Oh, I have no doubt. I just don't grok why. I guess that doesn't matter anymore. Sigh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 16, 2022 02:44 PM (Xrfse)

There is no "why", for Devils have no reason.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:50 PM (trdmm)

307 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 02:51 PM (Zz0t1)

308 269 Anyone else remember when the Internet was fun, innovative and free?

It was like a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

Posted by: Roy at November 16, 2022 02:51 PM (KQfR7)

309 Oh, I have no doubt. I just don't grok why. I guess that doesn't matter anymore. Sigh.

The American you want is at odds with the one they want. And that alone makes you a political enemy far worse then a run of the mill murderer or rapist.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:51 PM (ESjRY)

310 This suburbanite doubts Krasner will have to go anywhere

Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2022 02:51 PM (xhxe8)

311 Elon Musk relies on the US government for income. He relies on the Chinese government for income. This is all theater. Musk will end up making Twitter worse for free speech. AOS has gone downhill.

Posted by: SayHelloWaveGoodbye at November 16, 2022 02:51 PM (tUfjF)

312 To all who worry about lists: you're on one.

I'm on at least two in China: DOD employees and PA voters.

Posted by: t-bird at November 16, 2022 02:51 PM (hPvGe)

313 Ha. You dissent in a marxist cell and they find you with a bullet in your head.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 02:50 PM (eoQWY)

It's kind of funny, as Evil as Stalin was, I have to admit that he was actually right in executing all of the old Bolsheviks.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:51 PM (trdmm)

314 96 - 99 Usenet bulletin boards.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2022 02:45 PM (6hrvY)
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And that was *after* Eternal September, which turned Usenet into an unmitigated hellscape per the Usenet veterans.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


I remember before and after. I can draw the line between the two and am not convinced anything much changed but volume.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 16, 2022 02:51 PM (OUMaO)

315 307 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 02:51 PM (Zz0t1)

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Every time Sponge announces First, the comment thread must start over and only discuss the topic of the post.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (LvTSG)

316 215
'Of course, I did the same thing with Stephen King, and I've since revisited King'

I have mostly stopped reading King but that had more to do with his proclaiming his hatred for people like me.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (T/s40)

317 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 16, 2022 02:22 PM (xcxpd)

I guess if you're going to violate Man Rule #1, you might as well go all out.
Posted by: pookysgirl, just chilling (literally) at November 16, 2022 02:31 PM (XKZwp)

Every one of us will violate rule #1, if given the opportunity. If we claim we won't, we better HOPE we're never tested on it.

Because we will. We do. I did.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (YV6PJ)

318 Those are all codewords for "nukes," right?

***

I tried to refrain from joking around when I was working in those areas, at least around the security people. The guys in charge of guarding that stuff have the sense of humor of your average NOW meeting. I found that out fairly early on.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (wb1YC)

319 @273

And USENET/NetNews before websites were a thing. There were groups for every topic I dared to look for (at least it seemed that way) and every group had it's own charter about covering the rules of conversation and topics allowed. If there was a group discussing conspiracies for example, and you were offended by it, well you didn't subscribe to it. No one got taken down because it wasn't decentralized (much like DNS) and not controlled by any single entity or company, though some ISPs that started hosting netnews servers excluded some groups from being updated on their servers (comcast).

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (F5ekr)

320 Well, James Bellenger is a douche. You were an employee of a company hired to do a job. You turned that job into a dictator of all that is what your brain demanded of others.

Fuck off. Find a new job. Hope The Lord has mercy on your soul. That's all I have.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (Zz0t1)

321 During our 2nd quarter meeting this year, the GM of our division said on the topic of hiring, "It is not about getting the best person for the job, it's about getting the best person for the job who contributes to our diversity."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:26 PM (t0OGg)

Wow. Was that one of the times that you realized it would be a good idea to make sure your resume was up to date? Because that's a statement that tells me the ship is listing and will be sunk quickly.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (a/dOO)

322 This is how Musk rolls at SpaceX too, from the engineers I know that have worked there. Straight 40 hours doesn't cut it.

Posted by: Halfhand at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (pfuHB)

323 It's amazing that these twatter morons don't understand that Musk is desperate to drastically cut the workforce and is just looking for excuses to fire people. What these idiots are doing are fireable offenses on their own, but in this climate you'd think employees would be doubly or triply careful not to do or say anything that might give the boss an excuse to fire them.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 02:49 PM (iFTx/)

Modern day youth have few survival skills of any type, social or physical or business.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (eoQWY)

324 To all who worry about lists: you're on one.

People like Dave Reaboi that are on the FBI's radar link Ace frequently, so if the HQ wasn't monitored before it definitely is now.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (ZGrMX)

325 >>>Ferpetessake's... we've known for years that our government monitors even the hobby sites for political wrongthink.

"Mapping the human terrain," they call it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


When the Feebs said the Betsy Ross flag and the Gadsden flag were verboten, I decided I'd get one of both.

My city, my flag. If you don't like it, take it up with Betsy.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (d2bW3)

326 Maybe I'm old fashioned, but the fact that so many of these former Twitter employees seem surprised when they get fired for publicly badmouthing the company/boss seems odd to me. In what other industry wouldn't you just expect to be fired for the crap they try to pull? Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:12 PM


Reality has not really sunk in for the majority of twatter employees. Now it is hitting them like a literal brick to the head. Sucks to be them, but the man that signs the paychecks makes the rules. Iffn you don't like those rules leave or get fired.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (uNylN)

327 Posted by: SayHelloWaveGoodbye at November 16, 2022 02:51 PM (tUfjF)

Well...bye.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (OUMaO)

328 I remember before and after. I can draw the line between the two and am not convinced anything much changed but volume.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 16, 2022 02:51 PM (OUMaO)
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I wasn't, so I will take your word for it. I was part of Eternal September - an AOL user with Usenet access. I just remember hearing about how it all went to shit once the AOL influx started.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (t0OGg)

329 This is all theater. Musk will end up making Twitter worse for free speech. AOS has gone downhill.
Posted by: SayHelloWaveGoodbye at November 16, 2022 02:51 PM (tUfjF)

I disagree; because Twitter as it was had gotten so bad that it could not POSSIBLY have gotten any worse for free speech. Ay change of any kind will, by definition, have to be an improvement. It won't be perfect, but it will be better.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (trdmm)

330 319 @273

And USENET/NetNews before websites were a thing. There were groups for every topic I dared to look for (at least it seemed that way) and every group had it's own charter about covering the rules of conversation and topics allowed. If there was a group discussing conspiracies for example, and you were offended by it, well you didn't subscribe to it. No one got taken down because it wasn't decentralized (much like DNS) and not controlled by any single entity or company, though some ISPs that started hosting netnews servers excluded some groups from being updated on their servers (comcast).
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (F5ekr)
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it WAS decentralized like DNS I meant. Ugh.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (F5ekr)

331 Alt.startrek.vs.starwars

Yes, I was a big dork.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (+WZ08)

332 We now have to figure out as a society what we do with tens of thousands of socially well connected wokesters who have no actual job skills of any kind, but who feel incredibly entitled.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:46 PM (trdmm)


Well, having them regain their dignity by hand digging a canal is probably inefficient

Posted by: Kindltot at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (xhaym)

333 And USENET/NetNews before websites were a thing. There were groups for every topic I dared to look for (at least it seemed that way) and every group had it's own charter about covering the rules of conversation and topics allowed. If there was a group discussing conspiracies for example, and you were offended by it, well you didn't subscribe to it. No one got taken down because it wasn't decentralized (much like DNS) and not controlled by any single entity or company, though some ISPs that started hosting netnews servers excluded some groups from being updated on their servers (comcast).
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (F5ekr)

The interesting part was when you found a group that had been occupied by an entirely different group hiding from the trolls.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (eoQWY)

334 Not me.

Posted by: A Truck at November 16, 2022 02:54 PM (x8HKZ)

335 I wasn't, so I will take your word for it. I was part of Eternal September - an AOL user with Usenet access. I just remember hearing about how it all went to shit once the AOL influx started.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (t0OGg)

LOL, I remember Eternal September - it's been a long time since I heard that phrase.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:54 PM (trdmm)

336 I guess if you're going to violate Man Rule #1, you might as well go all out.
Posted by: pookysgirl, just chilling (literally) at November 16, 2022 02:31 PM (XKZwp)

Every one of us will violate rule #1, if given the opportunity. If we claim we won't, we better HOPE we're never tested on it.

Because we will. We do. I did.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (YV6PJ)

Rated as True... key is not to keep them around afterwards.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 16, 2022 02:54 PM (oHd/0)

337 Really bad lay off story was Youngstown Sheet and Tube, early 70s (Tonypete, you around?) . 5K laid off overnight, no notice, no nuttin.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

Hey Bill - Oh yeah. I was there then in the IT dept. We were untouched. We were all pretty young (20-30) and most of us drove Hondas and Datsuns. They sent a security guard down to make sure we got out of the parking lot without a hassle. THAT was a day. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at November 16, 2022 02:54 PM (LsEU/)

338 Alt.startrek.vs.starwars

Yes, I was a big dork.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (+WZ0

alt.westley-crusher.die.die.die

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 02:54 PM (eoQWY)

339 This is how Musk rolls at SpaceX too, from the engineers I know that have worked there. Straight 40 hours doesn't cut it.

Posted by: Halfhand at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (pfuHB)

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Was going to mention the same thing; read a biography of Musk a few years ago, and he was a brutal boss -- but respected, as he walked the walk and led by example: nobody works harder day-in and day-out than him.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 16, 2022 02:54 PM (S6jDH)

340 People like Dave Reaboi that are on the FBI's radar link Ace frequently, so if the HQ wasn't monitored before it definitely is now.

Posted by: Ian S.


Between all the particulars of my otherwise unnoteworthy existence I figure I've been on some or another "list" for thirty years at least. So have most of us, I suppose.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 16, 2022 02:54 PM (OUMaO)

341 Some interesting stuff going on with the new Wakanda film. Hispanics are... not happy. Not only was any ethnic character of the hispanic (central American/Mexicans) characters in the film were erased other than some decorative trappings, but Namor is a wetback.

Seriously, when Namor was a white dude, him requiring to be wet to have all his power was just a feature of being a sea hero. When he's wet or recently in the water, he's hulk-level Strength.

But when you make him a quasi-Mayan, and have him cross a river to invade a technological superpower, and have him lose his power when his back is no longer wet... its a bit too on the nose. They literally show him from the back rising out of the water, dripping wet, and burned the moisture off his back, steaming away to defeat him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 02:55 PM (Ivdso)

342 Unless Musk can dig deep and find those that are just, loyal and committed, he's screwed. He'll have to review all the code, or have someone he really trusts do it, or they'll continue to attempt sabotage. Every. Single. Day.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 02:55 PM (Zz0t1)

343 Alt.startrek.vs.starwars

May the force be with you Harry --Gandalf

Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:55 PM (ESjRY)

344 People like Dave Reaboi that are on the FBI's radar link Ace frequently, so if the HQ wasn't monitored before it definitely is now.
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But Bob from the NSA would never turn us in!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 16, 2022 02:55 PM (yikp0)

345 The Criterion Collection laid off 20% of its workforce in a "reorganization" about 3 weeks ago. It was only about 30 people because the company isn't really that big, but it's still another sign.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:55 PM (LvTSG)

346 Ha. You dissent in a marxist cell and they find you with a bullet in your head.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 02:50 PM (eoQWY)


Not in the 200 level class in uni. Remember, you have to recruit, THEN mold, THEN discipline

Posted by: Kindltot at November 16, 2022 02:55 PM (xhaym)

347
Every time Sponge announces First, the comment thread must start over and only discuss the topic of the post.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (LvTSG)
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Sponge + 100 Comment Rule

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 16, 2022 02:55 PM (ykBBE)

348 Alt.startrek.vs.starwars

Yes, I was a big dork.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (+WZ0

alt.westley-crusher.die.die.die

Posted by: Oldcat


alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork

And I was there when Suicide Squid was birthed on rec.arts.comics.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at November 16, 2022 02:56 PM (OUMaO)

349 I wasn't, so I will take your word for it. I was part of Eternal September - an AOL user with Usenet access. I just remember hearing about how it all went to shit once the AOL influx started.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (t0OGg)

LOL, I remember Eternal September - it's been a long time since I heard that phrase.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:54 PM (trdmm)

I remember when compuserve and aol were coming along and the angst was so pervasive it was condensed down to one line you could post

"imminent death of the web predicted"

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 02:56 PM (eoQWY)

350 If you were a newsgroup, you'd be alt.total.loser
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:49 PM (t0OGg)

What kind of chip you got in there, a Dorito?

Posted by: trev006 at November 16, 2022 02:56 PM (igJSL)

351 292 Anyone else remember when the Internet was fun, innovative and free?

USENET before Tim Berners-Lee invented HTML. alt.flame was glorious.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 02:48 PM (ZGrMX)
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and all the "(insert topic).die.die.die" groups. The alt.barney.dinosaur.die.die.die group always got my attention, but I never looked at it.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 02:56 PM (F5ekr)

352 They literally show him from the back rising out of the water, dripping wet, and burned the moisture off his back, steaming away to defeat him.

Don't forget the black people using spears and hooting like apes.

This is a Marvel film Woodrow Wilson could really schedule for a White House screening.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:56 PM (ESjRY)

353 The Criterion Collection laid off 20% of its workforce in a "reorganization" about 3 weeks ago. It was only about 30 people because the company isn't really that big, but it's still another sign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:55 PM (LvTSG)
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A different sign, but yes, a sign.

Criterion is in the middle-class luxury goods market, and it's probably hurting. I expect to see layoffs in similar areas - like decent (but not top-end) Hi-Fi companies.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:57 PM (t0OGg)

354 I remember when the only way to send naughty pictures was by teletype.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2022 02:57 PM (BdMk6)

355 What kind of chip you got in there, a Dorito?
Posted by: trev006 at November 16, 2022 02:56 PM (igJSL)
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I was hoping somebody would recognize it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:57 PM (t0OGg)

356 IOW: Working groups in US intelligence agencies are monitoring your embroidery and motorcycling enthusiasts' boards, in case someone might be thinking about motorcycles or embroidery at the same time as wrongthink.

That's how obsessed they are.

If you come to a place like this, where the nails deliberately poke up, you better expect to get hammered down like a human Paul Pelosi.

You either learn to accept that you're on a list, or you shut up altogether.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2022 02:57 PM (oINRc)

357 I remember an Internet that grew and evolved. Natural selection killed AOL, MySpace and Yahoo. I refuse to believe that Twitter, Facebook and "scroll down two screens to see actual search results" Google are the pinnacle of that evolution.

The social media companies are the Vogons of the Internet. Blowing up any Mostly Harmless company make way for their bypasses. They are an evolutionary dead-end that survives by shear force of evil will (and government help).

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:57 PM (BJKQV)

358 Now, I wouldn't give a lot of credence to the "wetback Nahmorrrr" theory, but blacks have for quite a while been a bit negative toward and the racism has been strong through American history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 02:57 PM (Ivdso)

359 331 Alt.startrek.vs.starwars

Yes, I was a big dork.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (+WZ0

I went into a "vampire" chat room once.

Once.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2022 02:57 PM (YV6PJ)

360 As more people jump into the primary, it gives Trump more opportunities to show his ass. And he will Show his big, beautiful ass every chance he gets. Posted by: Marcus T
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IDK, I saw him cut down the best and brightest the GOP had to offer 6 years ago.
Including the former governor of a must-win state who had a $100 million warchest, near universal name recognition and every single major endorsement....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 16, 2022 02:58 PM (5EnGD)

361 331 Alt.startrek.vs.starwars

Yes, I was a big dork.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (+WZ0



Red Shirts vs Stormtroopers.

The stoppable force meets the movable object.

Posted by: buzzion at November 16, 2022 02:58 PM (aRLgQ)

362 Joe Biden said it was "worth looking into" whether Musk is a "national security threat" due to his "cooperations" and "relationships" with other countries

Joe Biden then jets to Bali where he brags about his "Relationships and cooperations" with foreign countries...much of it pertaining to Trade deals, IE: Private/Independent American Companies doing big business overseas...often in Command economy countries where the "Leader" of that country also controls the Businesses. Something near and dear to Bidens heart of hearts....Hunter.

Posted by: birddog at November 16, 2022 02:58 PM (uAI4S)

363 I remember when the only way to send naughty pictures was by teletype.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2022 02:57 PM (BdMk6)
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At low baud. It takes a good long time for the line printer to make the complete ASCII image...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:58 PM (t0OGg)

364 But Bob from the NSA would never turn us in!

As long as Ace keeps updating his, uh, special thespian shelving folder you guys are all getting filed as "too dumb to cause trouble" on my official reports.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2022 02:58 PM (ESjRY)

365 For the life of me I can not figure out how these idiots have not learned the most important rule in corporations. Never criticize management in a way that leaves a paper trail. Especially on corporate owned systems.

The #resist nonsense is easy when your target can't fight back. It a bit different when the target is signing your paycheck.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at November 16, 2022 02:58 PM (ZCxxu)

366 there were a lot of fun usenet groups, and one of my early favorites was alt.fan.wesley.crusher.die.die.die

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 02:58 PM (trdmm)

367 But when you make him a quasi-Mayan, and have him cross a river to invade a technological superpower, and have him lose his power when his back is no longer wet... its a bit too on the nose.

I heard about that and it's fucking hilarious. It's all written by white women who've never left California and don't do any research, and it's *so* obvious.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 02:58 PM (ZGrMX)

368 The individualized identifiable phrase thing has been around a long time. The space thing is likely just because it's easy to automate with code.

Midway was won because of a variant of that trick; we had cracked Japanese codes but couldn't identify their target, as it had a code name; the solution was to let the bases leak information about (unique and fictitious) problems they were having and then waiting for the Japanese to talk about the problems at their target.

Posted by: Locarno at November 16, 2022 02:58 PM (ITVPE)

369 That's the modern sexual harassment standards for you. Even if someone overheard you talking and could potentially, maybe, remotely interpret your comment as "offensive" they are obligated to report it to HR. Even if they weren't part of the conversation and have no context for what was said.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 16, 2022


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I got reported for "bias." The facilities people sent over a work crew that didn't understand or speak any English, and I needed to tell them something on orders from my boss. I called their main office and politely asked that they send someone who could speak English. The clerk at the main office didn't complain to me, didn't complain to my boss, but went to *his* boss. My supervisor simply told me, "From now on, when you speak to those people, be extra careful," and that was the end of it.

Still: A request for at least one English speaker in a work crew constitutes "bias"????

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2022 02:59 PM (J2vNu)

370 337 Yep. Bad news because it got the ball rolling, and really destroyed some lives that should have planned ahead. Imagine having 18 years in, top dollar roller with 10 years operating the pulpit, and you get that breakfast surprise. And realize you have no place to go.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 16, 2022 02:59 PM (lz5hY)

371 Every one of us will violate rule #1, if given the opportunity. If we claim we won't, we better HOPE we're never tested on it.

Because we will. We do. I did.
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Well, they are all crazy. So are we. Life does that to you.

You try not to wind up with Amber Heard tho.

Posted by: Jonny Depp with regrets at November 16, 2022 02:59 PM (qOmV0)

372 "...Then he began firing the obvious internal saboteurs who hated him so much, and were so determined to be a part of an anti-Musk Twitter #Resistance, that they couldn't even hide their intentions..."

Late to the thread, so no chance to read comments. Just wanted to say that if God saw fit to put GEOTUS back into the White House, he should follow the Musk playbook to clean out the Deep State*

*yeah, I know about government worker protections and all that, but a guy can dream, no?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2022 02:59 PM (BqEDy)

373 Glad to see Musk doing the Lord's work (up to a point).

In grimmer news, I see that Field Marshal of Fail, Mitch McConnell, has managed to squeeze his wrinkled old ass back into the leadership chair. The Republican version of failure theater is in danger of having a longer run than Cats.

Posted by: Paco at November 16, 2022 02:59 PM (njExo)

374 Don't forget the black people using spears and hooting like apes.

Yeah ... yeah, I still cannot really get past that. The hooting scene was baffling. And they use drums and a DJ kit to create their barrier that ... apparently did not stop Namor and his blue Mayans

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 02:59 PM (Ivdso)

375 @324

>>People like Dave Reaboi that are on the FBI's radar link Ace frequently, so if the HQ wasn't monitored before it definitely is now.

The revelation of Echelon showed that the LE/IC apparatus, hoovers up just about all signals communication and stores it for later inspection and leveraging.

If you don't think they have you six ways to Sunday, they have you six ways to Sunday.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 03:00 PM (hj2D/)

376 353 A different sign, but yes, a sign.

Criterion is in the middle-class luxury goods market, and it's probably hurting. I expect to see layoffs in similar areas - like decent (but not top-end) Hi-Fi companies.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:57 PM (t0OGg)

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There's more going on about it as well. About 3 years ago, the NYT ran an article accusing the company of racism because they didn't release enough black films. It was a thing.

Criterion (which had just gone through an ownership change from its founder, who retired, to new, younger, woker owners) went overboard trying to "correct" this. They hired some minor BLM personality to run some curation, and they've been releasing black stuff on overdrive pretty much ever since. The funniest thing is that it's mostly stuff that already have in-print releases on home video, and some of it isn't even made by black people, just starring them.

Combine that with the streaming channel which may or may not be making money, and it's a company in the middle of a few different inflection points while trying to placate "stakeholders" who have no actual stock in the company.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:00 PM (LvTSG)

377 Not sure how Twitter survived with so many deadbeats on the job ... I guess they sucked up all the stock money ... where "investors" or the funds just keep pouring in cash? What is starting pay for a normal associate/employee? $50k?

Posted by: illiniwek at November 16, 2022 03:00 PM (Cus5s)

378 I remember an Internet that grew and evolved. Natural selection killed AOL, MySpace and Yahoo. I refuse to believe that Twitter, Facebook and "scroll down two screens to see actual search results" Google are the pinnacle of that evolution. ...
Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2022 02:57 PM (BJKQV)
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Broadband killed AOL. Facebook and Band Camp mortally wounded MySpace and News Corp finished the job (Facebook was "grown up" and hip for the college kids to whom it was initially restricted, and Band Camp sniped the extremely valuable "band page" business by being better-suited to it). Google destroyed its competition by actually being a good search engine.

All of that is long gone now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 03:00 PM (t0OGg)

379 my job industry is completely kerfluffly

Amazon lays off 10,000+, but then I get a job offer from them to work under a 9 month contract (which may or may not be extended) at roughly half the pay I'm working at now. I was thinking of taking it on as a second job but given the environment and the likely stress of being tasked to work with minimal support I'm thinking nah.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - A Man Without A Country at November 16, 2022 03:00 PM (VTu1l)

380 I used to work for a place where you basically couldn't/wouldn't be fired (guess - I will neither confirm nor deny). But a genius coworker decided to call out specific non-departmental colleagues on her personal MySpace page. And shortly after it was discovered, she was let go.

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2022 03:01 PM (kFZbr)

381 Combine that with the streaming channel which may or may not be making money, and it's a company in the middle of a few different inflection points while trying to placate "stakeholders" who have no actual stock in the company.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:00 PM (LvTSG)
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HAHAHAHAHA. I didn't know the inside baseball. That's hilarious.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 03:01 PM (t0OGg)

382 As more people jump into the primary, it gives Trump more opportunities to show his ass. And he will Show his big, beautiful ass every chance he gets. Posted by: Marcus T

Anyone fighting for the GOP nomination is fighting for the 75M votes Trump got in 2020 and they won't want to piss them off. There are people who will not vote if Trump is not the nominee.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 16, 2022 03:01 PM (mR6Gs)

383
Because we will. We do. I did.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (YV6PJ)

Rated as True... key is not to keep them around afterwards.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 16, 2022 02:54 PM (oHd/0)

You mean like don't marry them and have them screw you over on their way out the door and continue to screw you over until you can finally divorce them and have them out of your life forever?

Yeah, don't do that.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2022 03:01 PM (YV6PJ)

384 This is much more fun than the election.

Posted by: Anti-Fauci at November 16, 2022 03:01 PM (ik/65)

385 I remember when the only way to send naughty pictures was by teletype.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2022 02:57 PM (BdMk6)


I used to love to code "B O O" and then pause, before sending that last B. Ah, the good old days!

Posted by: Samuel FB Morse at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (H4YDz)

386 Maybe this could be on tomorrow's Art Thread:

https://tinyurl.com/3sttk2kv

*elon-related*

Posted by: kallisto, imagining what demo-dummies are saying at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (dCxaZ)

387 Criterion is in the middle-class luxury goods market, and it's probably hurting. I expect to see layoffs in similar areas - like decent (but not top-end) Hi-Fi companies.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 02:57 PM (t0OGg)
___________________

I think all Hi-Fi is at risk. So many of these companies survive by selling crazy overpriced stuff to people with more money than sense. Even the lower-end companies survive by customers constantly upgrading their stuff. But that happens more in a Trump Economy.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

388 Didn't Elon bang Amber Heard?

So even geniuses are susceptible to breaking Rule #1

Posted by: jmel at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (RWHIh)

389 The Criterion Collection laid off 20% of its workforce in a "reorganization" about 3 weeks ago.

Yeah but that was a business that inevitably was going to finish its job. Do we really want Criterion versions of stuff like "Stop or my Mother Will Shoot" and "Earnest Goes To Camp"? You eventually run out of the best films to put out a premium edition of, especially with how few really great movies are coming out now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (Ivdso)

390 Not sure how Twitter survived with so many deadbeats on the job ... I guess they sucked up all the stock money ... where "investors" or the funds just keep pouring in cash? What is starting pay for a normal associate/employee? $50k?

Twitter had 29 (!) rounds of VC funding to keep it afloat. By all accounts they sued to force Musk to buy them because they were going out of business otherwise.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (ZGrMX)

391 381 HAHAHAHAHA. I didn't know the inside baseball. That's hilarious.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 03:01 PM (t0OGg)

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On the movie board I frequent, the Criterion defenders are borderline insane in their defense of the company releasing films that already have solid releases while adding nothing new. "It's righting a wrong."

And then there's me and a few other guys going, "What happened to all the Japanese movies?"

We're racist, by the way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:03 PM (LvTSG)

392 Those Bellenger Tweets are priceless... LOL

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2022 03:03 PM (yezA1)

393 Commies are paranoid fuckers and love their lists.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 16, 2022 03:03 PM (y3pg4)

394 People still hating on barney in the netnews:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.barney.dinosaur.die.die.die

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 03:03 PM (F5ekr)

395 I remember AOL Dating when it started. Almost every girl on there was smoking hot and I would get responses from almost all of them.

Now we have Tinder.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - A Man Without A Country at November 16, 2022 03:03 PM (VTu1l)

396 Every time Sponge announces First, the comment thread must start over and only discuss the topic of the post.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 02:52 PM (LvTSG)
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Sponge + 100 Comment Rule
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 16, 2022 02:55 PM (ykBBE)



This is actually funny.

I would need CBD rights, however, to police things. And NO ONE would trust me with that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:03 PM (Zz0t1)

397 387 I think all Hi-Fi is at risk. So many of these companies survive by selling crazy overpriced stuff to people with more money than sense. Even the lower-end companies survive by customers constantly upgrading their stuff. But that happens more in a Trump Economy.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

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That Vinegar Syndrome even exists, much less thrives in its little niche, flummoxes me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:04 PM (LvTSG)

398 Loyal Twitter Employees To The Left....And Hard Rewarding Work!

Commie Dirtbag Layabouts To The Right....And Unemployment And Homelessness!

Forward March!

Posted by: Elon Musk, Harbinger Of Sanity at November 16, 2022 03:04 PM (wpHwF)

399 I would need CBD rights, however, to police things. And NO ONE would trust me with that.
Posted by: Sponge

I trust you to be FIRST among equals.

Posted by: whig at November 16, 2022 03:04 PM (CXr4y)

400
By all accounts they sued to force Musk to buy them because they were going out of business otherwise.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (ZGrMX)

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That would be too bad.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 16, 2022 03:04 PM (MoZTd)

401 I think all Hi-Fi is at risk. So many of these companies survive by selling crazy overpriced stuff to people with more money than sense. Even the lower-end companies survive by customers constantly upgrading their stuff. But that happens more in a Trump Economy.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (iFTx/)
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The high end will be fine. Those are Veblen Goods and they move more product when prices are higher. When Magneplanar came out with their new midrange speakers, the dealers nearly rebelled because they were only about $2,200 per pair and the dealers didn't think they could move them. They wanted a refresh of the high-end speakers that were closer to $30k per pair.

Many manufacturers (not Magenplanar and various others, though) have spent the past 15 years responding to that shift. It's the players still going after that "middle-class audiophile" market that will get their lunches eaten by what's about to happen.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 03:04 PM (t0OGg)

402 Still: A request for at least one English speaker in a work crew constitutes "bias"????[/]

Hey, it's 2022 and everything's going to hell in a handbasket.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 16, 2022 03:04 PM (Xrfse)

403 389 Yeah but that was a business that inevitably was going to finish its job. Do we really want Criterion versions of stuff like "Stop or my Mother Will Shoot" and "Earnest Goes To Camp"? You eventually run out of the best films to put out a premium edition of, especially with how few really great movies are coming out now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (Ivdso)

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They still haven't upgraded Kurosawa's Red Beard to Blu-ray, but they've just announced Hollywood Shuffle, which has an in-print release from Olive right now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (LvTSG)

404 Actually, the one-or-two-spaces trick can only be done with a copy/paste, which is only possible in a world in which everyone has a computer and uses email, which is not the world Clancy was writing in. So he must have been talking about a different trick.

No, computers were exactly how his patented Canary Trap worked. The computer would substitute words or punctuation on each printing of the same document.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (yQpMk)

405 I remember AOL Dating when it started. Almost every girl on there was smoking hot and I would get responses from almost all of them.

Now we have Tinder.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger

And Grinder!!

YooHoo!!!

Posted by: Buttigig at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (LsEU/)

406 We're racist, by the way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:03 PM (LvTSG)

Nah you're just total nerds. Gotta up your game, before you're racist nerds.

Posted by: Bobby Fisher at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (oINRc)

407 The interesting part was when you found a group that had been occupied by an entirely different group hiding from the trolls.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 02:53 PM (eoQWY

Sort of like the migration of folks from LGF to AoS.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (BdMk6)

408 Fun Fact:

I was a post-production engineer that worked at a facility that did most of the color correction and mastering for The Criterion Collection and MiraMax.

My office was a film vault.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (hj2D/)

409 Google destroyed its competition by actually being a good search engine.

Alta Vista was a good search engine, but Google really was a lot better, and had image search. They took the whole idea to a new level and were a great company until they decided they needed to Change The World (c)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (Ivdso)

410 But when you make him a quasi-Mayan, and have him cross a river to invade a technological superpower, and have him lose his power when his back is no longer wet... its a bit too on the nose.
==
C.Taylor - if anyone else had typed this description I would have thought it was a joke. What can't Clownworld do?

Posted by: Slavery back on the table? at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (imVnn)

411 408 Fun Fact:

I was a post-production engineer that worked at a facility that did most of the color correction and mastering for The Criterion Collection and MiraMax.

My office was a film vault.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (hj2D/)

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I want that job.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (LvTSG)

412 Didn't Elon bang Amber Heard?

So even geniuses are susceptible to breaking Rule #1
Posted by: jmel at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (RWHIh)



Well, he's not the most stable in the room either, so what's the rule about cray dipping stick in cray?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)

413 and for Tom Servo:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (F5ekr)

414 "For the life of me I can not figure out how these idiots have not learned the most important rule in corporations. Never criticize management in a way that leaves a paper trail. Especially on corporate owned systems."

But in college we complained about professors ALL THE TIME and got them fired and stuff, and we like protested having to take finals during COVID, and we screamed at the police and we all got gold Stars from the university!

Posted by: Illennial Dimwit at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (ik/65)

415 The revelation of Echelon showed that the LE/IC apparatus, hoovers up just about all signals communication and stores it for later inspection and leveraging.

Right, I remember when that happened and the writers of Person of Interest said "Well, fuck, our science fiction is real now".

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (ZGrMX)

416 "The ultimatum comes as Musk -- consumed with the fear that disloyal employees will sabotage the platform -- reportedly has ordered senior staff at Twitter to comb through internal Slack chats to identify disloyal employees to fire, according to Insider."

Why didn't Trump do something similar after taking office? He damn sure had plenty of disloyal employees seeking to sabotage his Presidency. It's probably his single greatest failure as President.

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (3DTwf)

417 Came very close to an embarreling there.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (Xrfse)

418 Do you even remember what the last Elite Moral Panic was, the crisis so threatening and so consuming we had to focus obsessively on it for one day and expunge or jail all the wrongthinkers?


Heinlein's quote about 'Bad Luck' comes to mind, for some reason.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (g/54t)

419 One thing I've learned over the years is to never, ever re-visit those books you enjoyed in high school and college. They were horribly bad. Just enjoy the memory.

(looking at you, Still Life With Woodpecker)
Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 16, 2022 02:43 PM (Vr7n

I still like pretty much all of them and reread them pretty often. SF mostly.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (eoQWY)

420 Earnest Goes To Camp
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The three and a haf hour Directors Edition of Earnest Goes to camp is a supposed to be a fucking cinematic masterpiece. Too bad it will never see the light of day.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (Wf74B)

421 Not sure how Twitter survived with so many deadbeats on the job ... I guess they sucked up all the stock money ... where "investors" or the funds just keep pouring in cash? What is starting pay for a normal associate/employee? $50k?
Posted by: illiniwek at November 16, 2022 03:00 PM (Cus5s)


About 3x that at twitter for a base level engineer, and paper pushers a bit less. $150k is pretty much borderline poverty in Silicon Valley, and typical starting point for most, give or take $25k.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (zB/T/)

422
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I want that job.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (LvTSG)



You'd never be seen again.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)

423 422 I want that job.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (LvTSG)


You'd never be seen again.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)

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Your point?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (LvTSG)

424 Why didn't Trump do something similar after taking office? He damn sure had plenty of disloyal employees seeking to sabotage his Presidency. It's probably his single greatest failure as President.
Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (3DTwf)

he was under investigation as a Russian Asset.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (eoQWY)

425 They still haven't upgraded Kurosawa's Red Beard to Blu-ray, but they've just announced Hollywood Shuffle, which has an in-print release from Olive right now.

Yeah there's a lot of stuff out there to do still, I was just thinking that they have to be looking at winding down, eventually.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (Ivdso)

426 I saw Stagecoach on Criterion Collection this week. I was a bit disappointed. Ford is a legend and the movie is a classic of the genre, but overall the direction and film technique were miles behind what Lang was doing 10-15 years earlier in Metropolis and M. Lang had a much more modern style, with moving cameras and innovative shot-reverse-shot style and editing. Ford could compose a scene, though.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (iFTx/)

427 I would need CBD rights, however, to police things. And NO ONE would trust me with that.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:03 PM (Zz0t1)



Give it to me and commenters will be terrified.



I will be terrified..

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (yQpMk)

428 @411

>>I want that job.

Can you tweak the dihedral on the head of a 2 inch machine?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (hj2D/)

429 Back in the Wild West online days, the "experts" told us we all needed a "portal" to the internet. Get the weather! Get the news! See your interests! All in one convenient place!!

Then they established those portals and immediately used them tk study our behavior, monitor our lives, influence our emotions, control our minds and deny us content.

Next time the "experts" tell us we need something maybe we should tell them to stick it up their ass, if there's any more room.

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (WWnom)

430 Alta Vista was a good search engine, but Google really was a lot better, and had image search. They took the whole idea to a new level and were a great company until they decided they needed to Change The World (c)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (Ivdso)
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Yup. Plus, Google's system was automated and AltaVista's (and Yahoo!'s, in the earlier days) were mechanical turks that needed a ton of manual tuning.

Google's ranking scheme worked brilliantly and ran more or less on its own. Then they got money and power.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (t0OGg)

431 425 They still haven't upgraded Kurosawa's Red Beard to Blu-ray, but they've just announced Hollywood Shuffle, which has an in-print release from Olive right now.

Yeah there's a lot of stuff out there to do still, I was just thinking that they have to be looking at winding down, eventually.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (Ivdso)

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They'll wind down after the March of Dimes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (LvTSG)

432 My office was a film vault.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (hj2D/)

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I want that job.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (LvTSG)

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Better start learning about lookup tables. It sucks.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2022 03:08 PM (oINRc)

433 and for Tom Servo:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (F5ekr)



I had no idea that newsgroups were still a thing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

434 388 Didn't Elon bang Amber Heard?

So even geniuses are susceptible to breaking Rule #1
Posted by: jmel at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (RWHIh)

From what I read at the time, it was Amber Heard, Elon Musk and...Cara Delevingne. At Johnny Depp's house. While he was away.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2022 03:08 PM (BqEDy)

435 "Because we will. We do. I did. "


That would be an awesomely confusing bumper sticker.

Posted by: eleven at November 16, 2022 03:08 PM (iziT8)

436 Didn't Elon bang Amber Heard?

So even geniuses are susceptible to breaking Rule #1
Posted by: jmel at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (RWHIh)


Well, he's not the most stable in the room either, so what's the rule about cray dipping stick in cray?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)

He didn't marry her did he? That's where you get in trouble when they can get a hook in your stuff or if you really love them.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 03:08 PM (eoQWY)

437 My office was a film vault.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 03:05 PM (hj2D/)


I love the Criterion Collection stuff, they're some of the only ones that keep quality cinema alive. Think I'll watch Mon Oncle tonight!

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at November 16, 2022 03:08 PM (zB/T/)

438 Every one of us will violate rule #1, if given the opportunity. If we claim we won't, we better HOPE we're never tested on it.

Because we will. We do. I did.
==
Well, they are all crazy. So are we. Life does that to you.

You try not to wind up with Amber Heard tho.
Posted by: Jonny Depp with regrets at November 16, 2022


***
Man Rule No. 1 = "Don't f*** around with Crazy"?

Noted. Though I have to ask, does sociopathic count? Because she wasn't *crazy* crazy, but . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2022 03:08 PM (J2vNu)

439 IRC was my thing back in the day.

Is that even a thing anymore?

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 16, 2022 03:08 PM (OCK3i)

440 My office was a film vault.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Didja have a neat combination lock to your office and a huge vault door? /jk.

Actually pretty cool and all that.

Posted by: whig at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (CXr4y)

441 Combine that with the streaming channel which may or may not be making money.

The Twitter account that tracks what shows are being cancelled has said repeatedly he doesn't think any streaming services are profitable.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (ZGrMX)

442 426 I saw Stagecoach on Criterion Collection this week. I was a bit disappointed. Ford is a legend and the movie is a classic of the genre, but overall the direction and film technique were miles behind what Lang was doing 10-15 years earlier in Metropolis and M. Lang had a much more modern style, with moving cameras and innovative shot-reverse-shot style and editing. Ford could compose a scene, though.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (iFTx/)

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Orson Welles watched Stagecoach constantly while filming Citizen Kane. John Ford took the foundational work by Griffith and pretty much invented standard Hollywood visual filmmaking.

It's hard to get more basic and important to the development of the world of film than Ford.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (LvTSG)

443 I still like pretty much all of them and reread them pretty often. SF mostly.

Sci FI and Fantasy holds up well yeah, although not all of it. Thieves' World was a lot cooler when I was 20 than it is at 56.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (Ivdso)

444 413 and for Tom Servo:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (F5ekr)

I looked for fun, was relieved to see immediately that every Trek fan on that board (probably the same old bunch) agrees that New Trek sucks donkey dicks.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (trdmm)

445
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Your point?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (LvTSG)



Think of the children.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)

446 I loved working here.

Try "speaking truth to power" to your manager at McDonald's and see if that works any better.

Posted by: t-bird at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (CaJIi)

447 428 @411

>>I want that job.

Can you tweak the dihedral on the head of a 2 inch machine?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (hj2D/)

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I will learn!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (LvTSG)

448 412 and then that Grimes chick. But she at least looks fun.

Posted by: Piper at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (ZdaMQ)

449 Google stole all of Altavista's good ideas. Nature of the beast but Altavista was a world beating search engine for five or six years.

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (rmUMU)

450 Why didn't Trump do something similar after taking office? He damn sure had plenty of disloyal employees seeking to sabotage his Presidency. It's probably his single greatest failure as President.

**********************

I wonder what would happen if Trump 2: Judgment Day actually did that and literally fired everyone then dared the courts to overturn it since it would be a violation of civil service laws that essentially makes 99% of the government unfireable, which in itself has to be unconstitutional.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - A Man Without A Country at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (VTu1l)

451 IRC was my thing back in the day.

Is that even a thing anymore?
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 16, 2022 03:08 PM (OCK3i)
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The last place I used IRC was a company that ran an internal relay for company chat instead of paying for one of the mainline products. It eventually vanished, replaced by more modern chat utilities that hoover up memory like it's going out of style and generate so much noise that you can't keep any of it straight.

I'm looking at you, Slack.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 03:10 PM (t0OGg)

452 As more people jump into the primary, it gives Trump more opportunities to show his ass. And he will Show his big, beautiful ass every chance he gets. Posted by: Marcus T

Anyone fighting for the GOP nomination is fighting for the 75M votes Trump got in 2020 and they won't want to piss them off. There are people who will not vote if Trump is not the nominee.
Posted by: JoeF

i 100% will write in my damned cat's name to split the vote if Trump isn't the GOPe McFailure nominee, or in a 3rd party as that party's nominee..

Posted by: BifBewalski at November 16, 2022 03:10 PM (3CCua)

453 351
'alt.barney.dinosaur.die.die.die'

You missed some hilarious messages then.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 16, 2022 03:10 PM (T/s40)

454 389 Yeah but that was a business that inevitably was going to finish its job. Do we really want Criterion versions of stuff like "Stop or my Mother Will Shoot" and "Earnest Goes To Camp"? You eventually run out of the best films to put out a premium edition of, especially with how few really great movies are coming out now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (Ivdso)

I shan't brook this besmirching of Jim Varney's good name.

I Shannot.

Dr. Otto and the Riddle of the Gloom Beam is a great time, and some of the Ernest movies are more enjoyable than you'd think, unless you're just a grump who takes himself way too seriously.

Posted by: XTC at November 16, 2022 03:10 PM (UnA8+)

455 Hey look my hash in 449 is a tribute to "Xiden"

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2022 03:11 PM (3fmag)

456 It's hard to get more basic and important to the development of the world of film than Ford.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM


Et tu, TJM?

Posted by: Ridley Scott at November 16, 2022 03:11 PM (a3Q+t)

457 416 "The ultimatum comes as Musk -- consumed with the fear that disloyal employees will sabotage the platform -- reportedly has ordered senior staff at Twitter to comb through internal Slack chats to identify disloyal employees to fire, according to Insider."

Why didn't Trump do something similar after taking office? He damn sure had plenty of disloyal employees seeking to sabotage his Presidency. It's probably his single greatest failure as President.
Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 16, 2022 03:06 PM (3DTwf)

Most of the bureaucracy can't be fired thanks to laws from the early 1900s that would supposedly give us a non-partisan and professional civil service. He was trying to see if he could use a potential loophole to fire a good chunk late in his presidency though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 16, 2022 03:11 PM (eYoxG)

458 441 Combine that with the streaming channel which may or may not be making money.

The Twitter account that tracks what shows are being cancelled has said repeatedly he doesn't think any streaming services are profitable.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (ZGrMX)

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Criterion doesn't make new content. It doesn't have that huge cost. It licenses a curated collection while heavily relying on its brand name.

It's probably significantly cheaper (per capita, or whatever) than something like HBO Max. It may make money.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:11 PM (LvTSG)

459 Anyone fighting for the GOP nomination is fighting for the 75M votes Trump got in 2020 and they won't want to piss them off. There are people who will not vote if Trump is not the nominee.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 16, 2022 03:01 PM


And there are people who wont vote if Trump is the nominee.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2022 03:11 PM (uNylN)

460 456 It's hard to get more basic and important to the development of the world of film than Ford.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM

Et tu, TJM?
Posted by: Ridley Scott at November 16, 2022 03:11 PM (a3Q+t)

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Scott is probably the best commercial to film director out there, at least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:12 PM (LvTSG)

461 Defense Secretary Austin:

"WHATEVER THE OUTCOME OF THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT IN POLAND, RUSSIA IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE."
........

Trump is bombing Poland?

Posted by: wth at November 16, 2022 03:12 PM (v0R5T)

462 Former WaPo writers that Foxnews seems to be hiring at a record pace imply that Pompeo will challenge Trump for the GOP nomination.

Maybe Trump can respond with another ad hominem, or juvenile pejorative.
Posted by: Marcus T
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If true, that means the idea of push DeSantis or Youngkin as the Golden Child with a clear path to nomination failed. Instead they are going to flood with smaller names.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at November 16, 2022 03:12 PM (ZCxxu)

463 Ford is a legend and the movie is a classic of the genre, but overall the direction and film technique were miles behind what Lang was doing 10-15 years earlier

The thing is, that's part of why I love John Ford's work. He has a style, but its subtle and the story is what moves the movie, not his imprint. Guys like Lang who I respect and love, have such a style its stamped onto the film and makes it what it is. That's fine in one sense: Hitchcock, Spielberg, Coen Brothers all have strong styles you can identify easily, but it isn't something I would teach people to study for storytelling even if their name is DePalma.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 03:12 PM (Ivdso)

464 This bikini girl on the beach at golden hour is amused by the drama:
https://is.gd/4cOCjY

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (t0OGg)

465 By all accounts they sued to force Musk to buy them because they were going out of business otherwise.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (ZGrMX)

__________

That would be too bad.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 16, 2022 03:04 PM (MoZTd)

They would have gone out of business due to their shareholders suing their pants off by denying such a good deal. Elon and they knew it would come to that so it was just a short dance to slow down the inevitable.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (eoQWY)

466 Commies are paranoid fuckers and love their lists.

--

This describes Nicholae and Elena Ceausescu to a T.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (sVtYq)

467 He didn't marry her did he? That's where you get in trouble when they can get a hook in your stuff or if you really love them.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Alpha males like Musk get away with it. Situational alphas like Johnny Depp get their bed shit on, domestic abuse allegations, and she sues you post relationship for defamation.

Posted by: whig at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (CXr4y)

468 Musk has previously created personal emails with tiny differences for each addressee, with variations in whether each sentence ends in one space or two -- so that when the email is inevitably leaked to the media, he knows who leaked it:

I like it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (ppBhU)

469 Scott is probably the best commercial to film director out there, at least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:12 PM (LvTSG)

*sniff*

Posted by: Michael Bay at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (BqEDy)

470 Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:02 PM (iFTx/)
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The high end will be fine. Those are Veblen Goods and they move more product when prices are higher. When Magneplanar came out with their new midrange speakers, the dealers nearly rebelled because they were only about $2,200 per pair and the dealers didn't think they could move them. They wanted a refresh of the high-end speakers that were closer to $30k per pair.

Many manufacturers (not Magenplanar and various others, though) have spent the past 15 years responding to that shift. It's the players still going after that "middle-class audiophile" market that will get their lunches eaten by what's about to happen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 03:04 PM (t0OGg)
______________

Yes, but you need lots of people with tons of disposable income to fund those higher prices, and especially to upgrade one crazy-expensive good to another. Lots of rich people are looking at their stock portfolios and having second thoughts about that new WAMM set.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

471 @440

>>Didja have a neat combination lock to your office and a huge vault door? /jk.

The doors on a film vault are typically dutch doors, film and other elements are quickly retrieved and provided to tape ops and assistants for them to load on telecines and tape machines for playback and correction and then mastered to a tape or digital format.

Thoooseee.... were some fun days.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (hj2D/)

472 NOOD

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (t0OGg)

473 469 Scott is probably the best commercial to film director out there, at least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:12 PM (LvTSG)

*sniff*
Posted by: Michael Bay at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (BqEDy)

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I was expecting a Zach Snyder sock, to be honest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (LvTSG)

474 CockDollars in South Carolina.

How about CockPounds (ala pound sterling).
Posted by: Chairman LMAO


If you name your currency after a chicken, I'm calling it BuckBuck Bucks.

Posted by: mikeski at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (lQzWp)

475 Actually got a copy for myself of a library book read in 8th or 9th grade, maybe reread it sometime soon.
Hell in a Very Small Place

Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (xhxe8)

476 Nood, freaking Emmet Sullivan pops into the news again.

Posted by: t-bird at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (CaJIi)

477 I was thinking about congresscritters. Most are very ambitious, jumping at the first chance to get in on the grift. Even without that, it's a pretty damn good job if you don't piss off the voters. Say you represent Bumfuck, WVA. Driving range to get home for the weekend. You're making over 14K a month, playing it smart and staying in your office or even a 2K studio. Constituents are knocking down 6K a month at best. You vote for them to keep their guns and not raise taxes (movie Charlie Wilson's War) and you're a lifer. Great job.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (lz5hY)

478 Yes, but you need lots of people with tons of disposable income to fund those higher prices, and especially to upgrade one crazy-expensive good to another. Lots of rich people are looking at their stock portfolios and having second thoughts about that new WAMM set.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (iFTx/)
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You need a small number of people with unlimited disposable income, and that's the market that's going to survive.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 03:14 PM (t0OGg)

479 Defense Secretary Austin:

"WHATEVER THE OUTCOME OF THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT IN POLAND, RUSSIA IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE."
........

Trump is bombing Poland?
Posted by: wth at November 16, 2022 03:12 PM (v0R5T)

Look what you made me do, right Lloyd?

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 03:14 PM (eoQWY)

480
And there are people who wont vote if Trump is the nominee.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2022 03:11 PM (uNylN)



And these people are why we're fucked. You can't sit back and NOT vote for Trump, if he's the nominee as that means the commies take over and we will NEVER recover if 2024 isn't R. NEVER.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

481 From what I read at the time, it was Amber Heard, Elon Musk and...Cara Delevingne. At Johnny Depp's house. While he was away.
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It was kind of like a game of musical chairs, and when the music stopped Amber was still at my house. I lost. Obvs.

Posted by: Jonny Depp with regrets at November 16, 2022 03:14 PM (qOmV0)

482 some of the Ernest movies are more enjoyable than you'd think, unless you're just a grump who takes himself way too seriously.

Hey, I like a lot of movies that are objectively terrible, I am not saying they cannot be fun. I'm just saying something like Hawk the Slayer does not deserve super high definition special packaging and release.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 03:15 PM (Ivdso)

483 Elon should run for President.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 16, 2022 03:15 PM (6xbVH)

484 DeSantis had a great response today. he said everyone has to chill which is 100% correct.

And we have to stop these fratricide attacks on other Republicans. Yes I hate RINOs and think they are almost as bad as democrat, but that word "almost" is an important one.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 16, 2022 03:15 PM (xDh35)

485 It's hard to get more basic and important to the development of the world of film than Ford.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (LvTSG)

I've watched some Jean Renoir films recently, and he was also groundbreaking in most areas. not just the storytelling, but the cinematography.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 03:15 PM (trdmm)

486 Alpha males like Musk get away with it. Situational alphas like Johnny Depp get their bed shit on, domestic abuse allegations, and she sues you post relationship for defamation.

Sigh. You shit the bed a single time in anger, and you are forever labeled that lady who angrily shit the bed.

Posted by: Angry Bed Shitter at November 16, 2022 03:15 PM (ppBhU)

487 Sci FI and Fantasy holds up well yeah, although not all of it. Thieves' World was a lot cooler when I was 20 than it is at 56.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (Ivdso)

Yeah, Elric of Melnibone was REALLY cool when I was a teen... pretty much unreadable now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 16, 2022 03:15 PM (oHd/0)

488 Defense Secretary Austin:

"WHATEVER THE OUTCOME OF THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT IN POLAND, RUSSIA IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE."




This is how it works in liberal fantasy land. It's why they can now sue gun manufacturers in California for someone getting shot by a gun they made 30 years ago.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)

489 485 I've watched some Jean Renoir films recently, and he was also groundbreaking in most areas. not just the storytelling, but the cinematography.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2022 03:15 PM (trdmm)

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William Wyler...maybe the most sophisticated visual storyteller ever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:16 PM (LvTSG)

490 By the way fuck twitter and all these left wing cupcakes who do not want to work, not long hours, but normal hours

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 16, 2022 03:16 PM (xDh35)

491 You vote for them to keep their guns and not raise taxes (movie Charlie Wilson's War) and you're a lifer. Great job.
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You forgot the pension, medical and drug coverage. Gym membership and free postage.

Posted by: Hey its a living at November 16, 2022 03:16 PM (oAfee)

492 484 DeSantis had a great response today. he said everyone has to chill which is 100% correct.

And we have to stop these fratricide attacks on other Republicans. Yes I hate RINOs and think they are almost as bad as democrat, but that word "almost" is an important one.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 16, 2022 03:15 PM (xDh35)

Yup, he turned a Fight Trump question into an anti MSM answer. Well played.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 16, 2022 03:16 PM (oHd/0)

493 442 426 I saw Stagecoach on Criterion Collection this week. I was a bit disappointed. Ford is a legend and the movie is a classic of the genre, but overall the direction and film technique were miles behind what Lang was doing 10-15 years earlier in Metropolis and M. Lang had a much more modern style, with moving cameras and innovative shot-reverse-shot style and editing. Ford could compose a scene, though.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:07 PM (iFTx/)

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Orson Welles watched Stagecoach constantly while filming Citizen Kane. John Ford took the foundational work by Griffith and pretty much invented standard Hollywood visual filmmaking.

It's hard to get more basic and important to the development of the world of film than Ford.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (LvTSG)
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Yes, in America. But there is no doubt Lang was well ahead in terms of visual style and technique. Watch Metropolis if you haven't already. You won't believe it was filmed when it was.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:17 PM (iFTx/)

494 Interesting watching the pro-trump and anti-trump battlelines form.

A few surprises so far.

Gonna be an interesting 2 years.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at November 16, 2022 03:17 PM (ZCxxu)

495 The doors on a film vault are typically dutch doors, film and other elements are quickly retrieved and provided to tape ops and assistants for them to load on telecines and tape machines for playback and correction and then mastered to a tape or digital format.

Thoooseee.... were some fun days.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Complicated stuff. Sounds like a very busy place.

Posted by: whig at November 16, 2022 03:17 PM (CXr4y)

496 Sci FI and Fantasy holds up well yeah, although not all of it. Thieves' World was a lot cooler when I was 20 than it is at 56.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 03:09 PM (Ivdso)

Read a few of those, thought they were meh to, as you say, uncool. Now the Garrett, PI series..at least the first 10 or so are good. Think hard boiled detective in a fantasy setting.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 03:17 PM (eoQWY)

497 This bikini girl on the beach at golden hour is amused by the drama:
https://is.gd/4cOCjY
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (t0OGg)

she should be given a Golden Globe award.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2022 03:18 PM (aiOeb)

498 Interesting watching the pro-trump and anti-trump battlelines form.

A few surprises so far.

Gonna be an interesting 2 years.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at November 16, 2022 03:17 PM (ZCxxu)

Not sure I'd want to be on the side with the Bulwark crew.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 03:18 PM (eoQWY)

499 Gonna be an interesting 2 years.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at November 16, 2022 03:17 PM (ZCxxu)


With THIS, I agree.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:19 PM (Zz0t1)

500 Interesting watching the pro-trump and anti-trump battlelines form.


I already got my arguing out of the way.

Just went ahead and argued with myself so no one would get mad at me.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 16, 2022 03:19 PM (6xbVH)

501 And there are people who wont vote if Trump is the nominee.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2022 03:11 PM (uNylN)


And these people are why we're fucked. You can't sit back and NOT vote for Trump, if he's the nominee as that means the commies take over and we will NEVER recover if 2024 isn't R. NEVER.
==
But MUH Principles and Norms!!! My sacred honor compels me to cast my lot against the puthy grabber.

Posted by: Angry Never Trump ranters at November 16, 2022 03:19 PM (e+Ga9)

502 The anti-Musk employees remind me of something I learned fairly recently.

When I was growing up, a lot of General Motors employees had cottages and summer homes around us. I loved having more kids to play with and my parents were friends with a lot of the adults.

But my father remarked that he had been flabbergasted that these multi-generational GM workers, whose union jobs paid them good wages and whose kids got GM car discounts and even college scholarships, HATED the company. They would fake timecards, take tools from work, and even sabotage machines.

These former Twitter employees have the same attitude.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 16, 2022 03:19 PM (fxCK2)

503 she should be given a Golden Globe award.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2022 03:18 PM (aiOeb)
.......

Can I be the one who gives it to her?

Posted by: wth at November 16, 2022 03:19 PM (v0R5T)

504 Shouldn't Musk have waited a few months to accumulate more tweets. now the employees will be on their best behavior

Posted by: avi at November 16, 2022 03:20 PM (cBCwV)

505 After three days of hearing her stories about setting neighborhood property on fire and how many people she'd cut, I thought maybe I shouldn't be fucking this chick anymore.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2022 03:20 PM (BdMk6)

506 Natural selection killed AOL,


AOL won. I worked for a dot.com on both sides of the bubble (the way up was thrilling). AOL sold its worthless paper for Time/Warner.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 16, 2022 03:20 PM (e+csY)

507 Unless Musk can dig deep and find those that are just, loyal and committed, he's screwed. He'll have to review all the code, or have someone he really trusts do it, or they'll continue to attempt sabotage. Every. Single. Day.

Many software companies have a PR policy that requires more than 1 peer review the code and make comments a/o approve/disapprove of the code.

The person who made the PR (submitted new code) and the reviewers would all have to be in on the scam, and now you have an audit on who the saboteurs are.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 16, 2022 03:20 PM (3hSHB)

508 Shouldn't Musk have waited a few months to accumulate more tweets. now the employees will be on their best behavior
Posted by: avi at November 16, 2022 03:20 PM (cBCwV)



You're giving the liberal mentals a bit too much credit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)

509 493 Yes, in America. But there is no doubt Lang was well ahead in terms of visual style and technique. Watch Metropolis if you haven't already. You won't believe it was filmed when it was.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:17 PM (iFTx/)

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I did a whole thing on Lang, actually.

Lang was more of a physical production kind of guy. His German period was defined by an ever-increasing series of elaborate sets until Metropolis, which was a financial bomb, when he had to take a step back to make Spies and then return somewhat to his form in Woman in the Moon.

Once he came to Hollywood, he essentially lost his directorial voice, and he ended up aping both Ford (Western Union) and Hitchcock (House on the River).

Ford's influence was greater pretty much because he was American. Lang's influence was actually more about extending the influence of German Expressionism (I think he's only tangentially part of it, that's more Murnau's realm) to people like Hitchcock (making the later aping of Hitchcock ironic) and even Ford to some limited degree.

But, the influence in standard visual film language definitely belongs to Ford.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 16, 2022 03:21 PM (LvTSG)

510 After three days of hearing her stories about setting neighborhood property on fire and how many people she'd cut, I thought maybe I shouldn't be fucking this chick anymore.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2022 03:20 PM (BdMk6)



This sounds like an episode of Criminal Minds.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

511 478 Yes, but you need lots of people with tons of disposable income to fund those higher prices, and especially to upgrade one crazy-expensive good to another. Lots of rich people are looking at their stock portfolios and having second thoughts about that new WAMM set.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:13 PM (iFTx/)
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You need a small number of people with unlimited disposable income, and that's the market that's going to survive.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2022 03:14 PM (t0OGg)
___________________

A small number of people with unlimited disposable income who want the status of insanely expensive hi-fi. That's a subset of people with UDI. So you're gonna need a lot of people with UDI from which to draw from. We are saying the same thing. But I have no doubt that the insane high end is selling less now than it did a few years ago -- if any of these systems ever were actually sold. Some of this shit seems like vaporware or maybe one-offs.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 16, 2022 03:22 PM (iFTx/)

512 Now the Garrett, PI series..at least the first 10 or so are good.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2022 03:17 PM


Doesn't hold a candle to the Garrett, Crocs series here.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 16, 2022 03:22 PM (a3Q+t)

513 494 Interesting watching the pro-trump and anti-trump battlelines form.

A few surprises so far.

Gonna be an interesting 2 years.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
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If the stakes were not so grave, it would be amusing. Now, the laughter at the absurd peacocks that are our elected leaders is forced.

Posted by: whig at November 16, 2022 03:22 PM (CXr4y)

514 Did the current United States Secretary of Defense honestly just Tweet out in all caps something salient about an active military concern in a war in which we are more than slightly involved in?

Or am I misinterpreting events?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2022 03:23 PM (6FeV1)

515 They literally show him from the back rising out of the water, dripping wet, and burned the moisture off his back, steaming away to defeat him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2022 02:55 PM (Ivdso)

Great googly-moogly...

Posted by: trev006 at November 16, 2022 03:23 PM (igJSL)

516 Now the Garrett, PI series..at least the first 10 or so are good.

I've got some omnibus versions of these on the shelves that are on my to-read list. Not even really my kind of thing, but I bought them on the strength of Cook's Black Company series figuring I'd probably like anything he wrote.

Posted by: Angry Bed Shitter at November 16, 2022 03:25 PM (ppBhU)

517
One thing I've learned over the years is to never, ever re-visit those books you enjoyed in high school and college. They were horribly bad. Just enjoy the memory.

(looking at you, Still Life With Woodpecker)
Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy



Any Ludlum except for Rhinemann, Holcroft, Ostermann and the first Bourne. I'm actually afraid to re-read those four novels for exactly this reason.

I actually learned that early on, with The Matarese Circle. Two main characters, mortal enemies, the top assassins from the KGB and CIA. And both had "signature" weapons (which is fucking stupid for assassins). A Stechkin machine pistol and a "Browning Grade 4". A crude Slavic bullet hose, and Ludlum obviously thought that the Browning was a refined version of the High Power, when in fact the Grade 4 is a high-end engraved semi-auto hunting rifle that isn't supposed to actually be shot, but is supposed to remain on display in some oil tycoon's gun cabinet.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 16, 2022 03:25 PM (n+4am)

518 Get off me, crazed pooper sock.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 16, 2022 03:25 PM (ppBhU)

519 Did the current United States Secretary of Defense honestly just Tweet out in all caps something salient about an active military concern in a war in which we are more than slightly involved in?

Or am I misinterpreting events?
==
If you are suggesting that deeply unserious hipster doofs are in cabinet level positions, then you interpretation is accurate. If you are likewise suggesting that these adult children are in need of supervision since their smart alec hot-take tweets could lead to serious real consequences, you would also be dead on, balls accurate.

Posted by: The verification service at November 16, 2022 03:26 PM (oAfee)

520 Interesting watching the pro-trump and anti-trump battlelines form.

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Nobody's right if everybody's wrong.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at November 16, 2022 03:27 PM (IUVyL)

521 Got to be honest here, gang. I work hard for the guy who writes my paychecks. But if he sent me this email, I'd be stuck in a position to not know whether to hit "yes" or not based solely on the lack of full information.

Because if I'm expected to double my productivity without some compensation for that, I'm fucking out.

I don't mind working hard, that's not the problem. But Twitter, and Elon Musk, don't need my charity. If they want more, they can pay for it. And they can afford that.

Posted by: Goober at November 16, 2022 03:27 PM (Hgvgt)

522
I don't mind working hard, that's not the problem. But Twitter, and Elon Musk, don't need my charity. If they want more, they can pay for it. And they can afford that.
Posted by: Goober at November 16, 2022 03:27 PM (Hgvgt)



We don't know what the twatter pricks were making for a salary. I'd need to know that first. I will work, hard, if the money's right.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 16, 2022 03:29 PM (Zz0t1)

523 Because if I'm expected to double my productivity without some compensation for that, I'm fucking out.
==
Meaning you have something else lined up that is either on parity or an upgrade. If you are just "out" because you think its unfair. You might not be 29.

Posted by: Imma need to see your ID at November 16, 2022 03:30 PM (qOmV0)

524 My favorite layoff story was the "Fire Drill", where they rang the alarm, evacuated the building, then HR came to the front door and started calling names...names called went back inside...those not called got their "Personals" delivered to their homes.
Next favorite was the "Parking Lot" story...went through the lot and every Obama sticker got the boot.

Posted by: birddog at November 16, 2022 03:30 PM (uAI4S)

525 Because if I'm expected to double my productivity without some compensation for that, I'm fucking out.

I don't mind working hard, that's not the problem. But Twitter, and Elon Musk, don't need my charity. If they want more, they can pay for it. And they can afford that.
Posted by: Goober at November 16, 2022 03:27 PM (Hgvgt)

I'm going with the assumption that Musk is not demanding double the work a given amount of pay. He's demanding and end to half of the work for that same amount of pay. Those who already earn their paycheck probably have little to fear.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2022 03:31 PM (6FeV1)

526 "And there are people who wont vote if Trump is the nominee.

And these people are why we're fucked. You can't sit back and NOT vote for Trump, if he's the nominee as that means the commies take over and we will NEVER recover if 2024 isn't R. NEVER."

The real reason we are fucked is because both groups exist - those who will withhold their vote if Trump's not the nominee, and those who will withhold their vote if he is.

I want to be wrong about that, but I don't think I am.

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 16, 2022 03:31 PM (3DTwf)

527 Interesting watching the pro-trump and anti-trump battlelines form.

A few surprises so far.

Gonna be an interesting 2 years.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

We should NOT allow the msm or other agitators to make us kill each other with friendly fire.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 16, 2022 03:31 PM (xDh35)

528 Well, she's not a biologist.

https://bit.ly/3ObIAOx

On the other hand, I'm only an amateur but I think I know.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at November 16, 2022 03:33 PM (IUVyL)

529 We should NOT allow the msm or other agitators to make us kill each other with friendly fire.
==
I'm not dead yet. I don't want to go on the cart.

Posted by: Mike Pence at November 16, 2022 03:33 PM (L2zbC)

530
Because if I'm expected to double my productivity without some compensation for that, I'm fucking out.

I don't mind working hard, that's not the problem. But Twitter, and Elon Musk, don't need my charity. If they want more, they can pay for it. And they can afford that.
Posted by: Goober


Except that it's obvious that most of Twatter's workforce has been sitting around drinking latte's, pounding their pud, and going to free Namibian-school yoga classes while on company time rather than actually working and writing code. And being overpaid shitloads of money for it.

He's just insisting on an actual productive work ethic rather than a paid extension of their college experience.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 16, 2022 03:35 PM (n+4am)

531 I'd have been President in 2024. Or sooner, if you get my drift. *starts fapping*

Posted by: Mike Pence at November 16, 2022 03:36 PM (1ibJt)

532 A debate with both Trump and Pence participating would be a hoot.

How could Pence attack Trump's presidency without Trump saying, "Gee Mike, that's not you told me at the time."

Posted by: JoeF. at November 16, 2022 03:42 PM (mR6Gs)

533 Late to the thread, but the constant AND continually-changing "moral panics" by the Ruling Class is actually part of the menticide that Joost Meerloo describes in The Rape of the Mind published in 1956. Keeping the populace continually in fear is one of the techniques of creating a Mass Formation Psychosis. While some of the Laptop Class are stupid, the people pulling the strings are smart, evil psychopaths.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 16, 2022 03:52 PM (pJWtt)

534 Boy, it's a real shame that those former Twitter employees are finding out what happens when one's Twitter access can be revoked for seemingly no reason. Now they know what it feels like to be a Twitter user.

Posted by: Octochicken at November 16, 2022 04:01 PM (oCS0o)

535 Bellenger = cocksukker. . .(by definition)

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & other assorted LibCuck azzwipes at November 16, 2022 04:14 PM (5DfsO)

536 33. "3 months severance seems pretty generous."

There will surely be a full release attached and probably a non-disparagement requirement as well. Musk can also include non-compete (limited in time and geography) if he wants to grind their face in it.

Posted by: Martin Tell at November 16, 2022 04:53 PM (Fi8mM)

537 "The beatings will continue until morale improves!"

Posted by: gourmand du jour, sunny and cool at November 16, 2022 05:18 PM (jTmQV)

538 The bloodletting at Twitter has been very enjoyable to watch.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at November 16, 2022 05:23 PM (ouc/v)

539 If you want a tip from a software engineer
Throw in some Unicode characters. Once spent too many hours of my life finding a unicode hyphen that someone had copy pasted out of word.

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Posted by: Tom at November 17, 2022 12:53 AM (VvJCK)

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