Pre-Thanksgiving Thread before the Gardening Thread

From Dr_No
Are we living through the Grand Endumbening?

I'm sure you can think of some aspects of life in which it seems like our society has been endumbened.

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FTX - some family connections

This seems to be a story which gets more convoluted, stupid and bizarre the deeper people look into it, but Ed Driscoll put some items together related to the parenting of SBF, the originator of the disastrous FTX, via which SBF promised to do much good in the world:

Michael Shellenberger

Nine years ago, when crypto-fraudster @SBF_FTX was 19, his mother, a Stanford professor, wrote a very long article making the case that free will is a myth and that we should not blame people for committing crimes.

She describes a guy growing up in bad circumstances, and asks if he should be held responsible for his crimes. . .

How should we think about Smith's level of moral responsibility?"
She adds, "parental income and education are the most powerful predictors of whether a three-year-old will end up in the boardroom or in prison..."
According to Fried's own argument, we should hold her son *more* responsible for his fraud, given his rich, educated parents. . .

I'm sure she could think up other reasons why her son should not be held responsible.

Sam Bankman-Fried's father drafted tax legislation for Elizabeth Warren, donated thousands to Dems

How will that affect the congressional hearing on FTX, do you think?

This naturally leads to "conspiracy theories", too.

FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried's family boasts deep ties to Democrat power players

The Bankman-Fried brothers announced they were 'looking to make a splash' in the midterm elections in May

Do you think they did? SBF himself gave 38 million, according to the article. Details at the link. There's also a video discussing some of the possible legal fallout from the collapse of FTX.

"Decentralized" crypto?

Yesterday, in the car, I heard part of a radio program with guests from a start-up crypto company out of Fresno featuring "decentralized control". Interesting concept, and they promised that it bypasses all of the problems that beset FTX. Local exchanges of goods and services are emphasized.

With an undertone of desperation, I think. Though they are trying not to sound TOO worried. I think they could be wiped out, though. By the government behemoth.

Maybe their plan should be how "crypto" should function. I don't know enough to say. But how would it compare to our current monetary systems, or those promised by the WEF?

Do you have any ideas about how we could keep exchange of goods going if our monetary system collapsed?

Regulation is the big worry for them right now, after FTX. They know that some regulation is appropriate, but they fear a "one approach for all" mentality, which is the probably approach Washington will take.

I have no background in this stuff, but if you do, you can listen, starting at about 2:30 minutes, to the "Friday 11/18 - Get Anubit, FTX, University of Virginia" podcast (from the hour 3 broadcast) here.

They seem to know what they are talking about, in stark contrast to the people at FTX, who became the darlings of the high and mighty.

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Can we begin to reverse the Grand Endumbening?

Thanksgiving is coming up. Any topics of conversation below with visitors?

Interesting perspective in this thread! I've long thought the true goal of the hard Left could be best expressed as a War on Wives. Much of their rhetoric is stridently anti-male, but their real goal was to manufacture unmarried women who look to the State for protection. https://t.co/HYrAoZ6j5g
— John Hayward (@Doc_0) November 14, 2022

Depriving students of greatness. Do we need to start Classical Schools?:

Cambridge students have been told that the canon of classical music can be seen as an “imperial phenomenon” and, at Oxford, concerns have been raised about a classical “white hegemony”.

Chaucer and Shakespeare also dropped.https://t.co/pcKKaM9Gtj
— Wanjiru Njoya (@WanjiruNjoya) November 15, 2022

Re-programming Cuban-Americans to replace thankfulness with leftism. How to we counter-act this?:

When democrats tell you who they are, believe them pic.twitter.com/ceNQxZcIVv
— Christina Pushaw 🐊 🇺🇸 (@ChristinaPushaw) November 14, 2022

Bonus:

If Twitter survives after culling 90% of its workforce then I must insist, with great regret of course, that we do the same with the Federal government.
— Abraham Ash (@Historycourses) November 18, 2022

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Music

I need a dollar

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend. Will you be traveling this week? Stay safe.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread,November 12, Who gets to choose the experts?

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:23 AM

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1 According to Fried's own argument, we should hold her son *more* responsible for his fraud, given his rich, educated parents. . .
I'm sure she could think up other reasons why her son should not be held responsible.

Gary Gensler is practically family. SBF and Caro will probably get off

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:24 AM (Zzbjj)

2 if there is any part of lie that hasn't been endumbened, I sure can't think of it offhand.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 19, 2022 11:26 AM (AAm6o)

3 Brits are as stupid as we are? Canceling Shakespeare? WTF

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:26 AM (Zzbjj)

4 I figured it was a matter of time before they came after the classical music.

What will Julliard and Curtis Institute of Music teach if they accept this decoloniztion baloney? How will this affect the repertoire of the various orchestras?

Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2022 11:28 AM (dCxaZ)

5 I thought the comments from Dr. Christie left a lot out. The susceptibility to the myth of "gender confusion" in girls is multi layered. Before the current craze encouraged mutilation acceptance, it was usually a factor of appearance or trauma.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:29 AM (Zzbjj)

6 life, not lie

effing "f" key is malfunctioning

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 19, 2022 11:30 AM (AAm6o)

7 4. We need to get rid of the National Endowment for the Arts and any public subsidy, govt money leads to govt mandates of content

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:31 AM (Zzbjj)

8 I know nothing about crypto other than that my warning bells have been going off about it ever since I started hearing about it, reminiscent of the dot.com bubble/scam back in the late'90's where companies were selling nothing but air.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 19, 2022 11:31 AM (NAK3s)

9 The crypto nerd is the second largest Democrat donor.

That should be front and center of the story.

His ninesome lifestyle is just tabloid fluff.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 11:31 AM (NWBBy)

10 So you're saying that a guy raised by a mother who didn't think children should be held responsible for their actions, grew up thinking he would never be held responsible for his actions. Boy howdee, who could have seen that coming?

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2022 11:33 AM (F2blH)

11 My working assumption is that Bitcoin is a CIA op. It couldn't have been created by a solitary, anonymous Japanese guy.

Some years ago, Ron Paul acolytes were minting their own silver coins (In Ron We Trust), as an alternative to the dollar. The Feds shut them down tout sweet. Why not here?

Bitcoin's true purpose is to facilitate your doing things you wouldn't want your mother to see.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2022 11:33 AM (SJsWC)

12 9 Both of the main players have families with serious dem connections. I also want to see the GOP who are involved in this go down hard.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:34 AM (Zzbjj)

13 The crypto nerd is the second largest Democrat donor.

That should be front and center of the story...

He is nothing more than a scam artist and thus very emblematic of a Democrat.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 19, 2022 11:34 AM (NAK3s)

14 They're baaaaaaack...

@TheBabylonBee · 24m
‘Twitter Is Dead,’ 300 Million People Post On Twitter

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 19, 2022 11:35 AM (yikp0)

15 Cambridge, etc. Are simpky committing suicide, because the people there loath themselves. Within a couple years, those degrees will be worth less, in any real sense, than any "diploma" you can buy off the internet.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2022 11:36 AM (F2blH)

16 12. Caro's dad is Glenn Ellision, MIT economist, good friend and mentor to Gensler. These kids got high level "advice"

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:36 AM (Zzbjj)

17 Brits are as stupid as we are? Canceling Shakespeare? WTF
Posted by: CN

Clarification: British 'academics' are cancelling their own British history, just as US 'academics' hate the Founders and our history.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 19, 2022 11:36 AM (+dlWd)

18 The crypto nerd is the second largest Democrat donor.

That should be front and center of the story...
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He is nothing more than a scam artist and thus very emblematic of a Democrat.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 19, 2022 11:34 AM (NAK3s)

I've heard it said he was recruited.

By whom? For what? Don't know, but he was plucked out of obscurity on purpose.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 11:37 AM (NWBBy)

19 I said it yesterday...

Pelosi and Hoyer stepped down because they are up to their eyeballs in this FTX horse shit and because of their other scams that might come out.
Some people are lamenting that none of the ugly stuff that came out this week was known or admitted before the election. I see it as a good thing that its coming out now. If they thought they were safe, they wouldn't try to get out in front of the storm.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 19, 2022 11:37 AM (Wy1BU)

20 Added a bonus, federal government.

Posted by: KT at November 19, 2022 11:37 AM (rrtZS)

21 4 I figured it was a matter of time before they came after the classical music.

What will Julliard and Curtis Institute of Music teach if they accept this decoloniztion baloney? How will this affect the repertoire of the various orchestras?

Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2022 11:28 AM (dCxaZ)

I figure sooner or later the leftist music thugs will invent an entire repertoire of what they say they are certain is similar to African tribal music across the continent in pre-Colonial days, based on 'research' by a music professor race hustler or two.

We'll be forced to call it "uplifting, beautiful, and much better than Mozart and the white classical composers created." It will be lousy music.

Posted by: Gref at November 19, 2022 11:38 AM (AMIL/)

22 Depriving students of greatness. Do we need to start Classical Schools?

Princeton no longer requires that classics majors study Latin and Greek, and has a "woke" classics professor that explains that classics should be abolished anyway, since the Greeks and Romans had white skin.

Classics majors used to do well on the job market - there weren't many of them, and it was correctly viewed as a very demanding major.

That will change.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 19, 2022 11:38 AM (KCOCK)

23 By whom? For what? Don't know, but he was plucked out of obscurity on purpose.

Neither SBF or Caro come from obscure origins

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:39 AM (Zzbjj)

24 Do you have any ideas about how we could keep exchange of goods going if our monetary system collapsed?
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When it collapses, and in small, rural AOs, bartering will be a thing.

In the large urban ones, who knows.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 19, 2022 11:39 AM (Wo4FI)

25 First time I've heard Miss Kiddy and the Cads. That was awesome. I'm going to listen to much more of them.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 19, 2022 11:39 AM (eOEVl)

26 Forbes posted a ridiculous piece claiming that FTX was an "alt-right") Because - oh who cares, they didnt need no reasons.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2022 11:39 AM (F2blH)

27 3 Brits are as stupid as we are? Canceling Shakespeare? WTF
Posted by: CN

They will raze Stratford-Upon-Avon to the ground, for the Greater Good.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 19, 2022 11:39 AM (fWTJL)

28 Dropping Chaucer and Shakespeare...in England? Well, they already dropped the Bible long ago.

There better be some really good literature in the ancient Tibetan library we heard about this morning, like "BeoYak" and "MacYurt".

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2022 11:40 AM (dNNCD)

29 I said before that crypto should have continued to be limited to buying magic potions and super battle axes.

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2022 11:40 AM (f+KrF)

30 Added a bonus, federal government.
Posted by: KT

All hail Abraham Ash!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 19, 2022 11:41 AM (+dlWd)

31 I think I will have my study wallpapered with FTX and other documents that made me millions. I sure the other Hollywood elite will do the same. Senator Elizabeth Warren will now become a fighter for justice for all who lost millions. But I'm sure she enjoyed the generous donations from SBF.

Posted by: Colin at November 19, 2022 11:41 AM (8p0Zk)

32 Dropping Chaucer and Shakespeare...in England? Well, they already dropped the Bible long ago.

There better be some really good literature in the ancient Tibetan library we heard about this morning, like "BeoYak" and "MacYurt".
Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2022 11:40 AM (dNNCD)

Isn't the head of the Church of England an atheist?

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2022 11:41 AM (f+KrF)

33 25 my favorite is the drummer. He was so passionate!

Posted by: Piper at November 19, 2022 11:42 AM (ZdaMQ)

34 Math needs to drop the Pythagorean theorem, Euclidean geometry, and calculus, which are all the poisoned fruit of evil white men.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 19, 2022 11:42 AM (eOEVl)

35 26 Forbes posted a ridiculous piece claiming that FTX was an "alt-right") Because - oh who cares, they didnt need no reasons.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2022 11:39 AM (F2blH)

It is ridiculous. SBF's parents are very lib donk connected academics. Daddy is one of the leading tax law professors in the nations. Her dad is a donk MIT economist

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:42 AM (Zzbjj)

36 How will this affect the repertoire of the various orchestras?

The Chicago Symphonic Kettledrums.

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2022 11:42 AM (dNNCD)

37 Nice music.

We have perfectly viable alternative to crypto and to fiat money: gold. Traditionally used as a store of value, convertible almost anywhere to local scrip, and very portable. Almost impossible to counterfeit at any scale.

Big problem with crypto, is that even if you had an absolutely honest crypto platform, transaction all depend upon honest, and uninterrupted functioning if the Internet. Do you really want An EMP bomb or a Carrington Event wiping out the money economy?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 11:42 AM (f7xOM)

38 By whom? For what? Don't know, but he was plucked out of obscurity on purpose.
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Neither SBF or Caro come from obscure origins
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:39 AM (Zzbjj)

Obscure enough, in the sense that nobody would have expected these clowns to become bazillionaires. And then touted all over the cool places as geniuses.

This was some type of op. At first glance, not unlike Epstein.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 11:43 AM (NWBBy)

39 Those who refuse to study history are doomed to repeat it. Or forget about it.

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2022 11:44 AM (f+KrF)

40 Crypto is as far as I know the only alternative to a central bank digital currency which has the power to control your finances at the tap of a keyboard and literally track every single financial transaction you ever make.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 19, 2022 11:44 AM (VTu1l)

41 How will this affect the repertoire of the various orchestras?

Already happening. The Oregon Symphony, which I think is fairly typical, usually one of its classical programs with a "modern" piece or two, generally written by a racial or sexual minority, before playing the classical music that everyone showed up for.

They do a bit of juggling of the program to obscure that - if the program was just "woke" music before intermission, with the real music after intermission, people would start showing up at intermission, which would be very embarrassing for them.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 19, 2022 11:44 AM (KCOCK)

42 Do you really want An EMP bomb or a Carrington Event wiping out the money economy?

You will own nothing and LOVE it.

Posted by: Klaus Schwab's creepy smile at November 19, 2022 11:45 AM (fWTJL)

43 Those who refuse to study history are doomed to repeat it. Or forget about it.
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And those of us who have studied it are doomed to watch it all happen.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 19, 2022 11:45 AM (Wo4FI)

44 This was some type of op. At first glance, not unlike Epstein.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 11:43 AM (NWBBy)

I think they're as likely as another well connected professors' kids, in fact their family connection helped them immeasurably. Op? Probably, and if so Gary Gensler is a huge part

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:45 AM (Zzbjj)

45 Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 19, 2022 11:44 AM (VTu1l)

We still have cash and it ain't going away in my lifetime.

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2022 11:46 AM (f+KrF)

46 Speaking of Shakespeare, I have my own method of judging Shakespeare's plays. Let's say you're comparing Henry V to Richard III. It's Henry up by II.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 19, 2022 11:46 AM (FVME7)

47 Crypto is the darling of the WEF

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:46 AM (Zzbjj)

48 Do you really want An EMP bomb or a Carrington Event wiping out the money economy?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

You don't need to wait for either of those: just go to California instead and wait until they start rolling blackouts again.
Those without the means to cook without electricity will be eating cold canned beans (if they stocked them before the registers stopped working).
Looking at LA and SanFrancisco for sure.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 19, 2022 11:47 AM (+dlWd)

49 Here is an idea for new House, INVESTIGATE MERRIC GARLAND, SUBPOENA MERRICK GARLAND, SUBPOENA MERRICK GARLAND's SUBORDINATES.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 11:47 AM (V13WU)

50 Do you really want An EMP bomb or a Carrington Event wiping out the money economy?

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You will own nothing and LOVE it.
Posted by: Klaus Schwab's creepy smile at November 19, 2022 11:45 AM (fWTJL)

That's the plan. It's probably a good idea to consider, whatever you "own" now, and will own in the near future, will be confiscated.

Either that, or we figure out how to defeat the NWO, who have decades of a head start on the rest of us.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 11:48 AM (NWBBy)

51 Admittedly I'm not a Shakespeare fan but to cancel him is redonkulous.

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2022 11:48 AM (f+KrF)

52 We'll be forced to call it "uplifting, beautiful, and much better than Mozart and the white classical composers created." It will be lousy music.

there is a composer called "the Black Mozart" who is getting a lot of play but evidently he's not even as good as Salieri. He was from French colony Guadeloupe.

Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2022 11:48 AM (dCxaZ)

53 To me it seems crypto is like one cat saying to another cat 'I'll hold on to your catnip for you. It'll be here anytime you need it. Perfectly safe and secure.'

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2022 11:48 AM (sBSqk)

54 49. And his CRT selling family.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:48 AM (Zzbjj)

55 I made some $ with crypto, years ago.
I put a modest amount in, closed my account when it was up 1000%.
It kept on climbing to ridiculous levels.
The whole thing was weird.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, overcast skies at November 19, 2022 11:48 AM (jTmQV)

56 They do a bit of juggling of the program to obscure that - if the program was just "woke" music before intermission, with the real music after intermission, people would start showing up at intermission, which would be very embarrassing for them.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 19, 2022 11:44 AM (KCOCK)

Well, I'm not a symphony-goer. But if I were, I'd simply walk out while the crap-fest was going on.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 11:49 AM (f7xOM)

57 Gary Gensler is practically family. SBF and Caro will probably get off
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:24 AM (Zzbjj)

yes folks

the phrasing dept at the AOS are getting off this weak end

Posted by: REDACTED at November 19, 2022 11:49 AM (us2H3)

58 All I know is the governments of the world will use this to make crypto illegal. Or at least highly regulated.

And no one will go to jail. No one will get their money back.

Hell, the Democrats will campaign on this in 2024. Because the American voter is a child who believes they deserve candy for Christmas and the dark places kept free of boogymen.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 19, 2022 11:49 AM (5EnGD)

59 Oh, and while you are at it, investigate that Smith guy; his ties to dem donors, FTX, Ukraine, his so called work in the Hauge.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 11:50 AM (V13WU)

60 Anyone say fuck the Canadian pussy Jordan Peterson for his first thing being back on twitter to beg Elon to not let anonymous non-verified people be seen by verified people? Because fuck that pussy Canadian that wants censorship to continue so he doesn't have to see people saying mean stuff to him.

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2022 11:50 AM (aRLgQ)

61 made some $ with crypto, years ago.
I put a modest amount in, closed my account when it was up 1000%.
It kept on climbing to ridiculous levels.
The whole thing was weird.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, overcast skies at November 19, 2022 11:48 AM (jTmQV)

Tulips

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2022 11:50 AM (f+KrF)

62 I don't understand crypto. And I sure don't understand the crypto ATM machine at one of the local gas stations, owned and operated by some mid east types. Can anybody give me a thumbnail rundown on crypto ATMs?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 19, 2022 11:50 AM (lz5hY)

63 49 Here is an idea for new House, INVESTIGATE MERRIC GARLAND, SUBPOENA MERRICK GARLAND, SUBPOENA MERRICK GARLAND's SUBORDINATES.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 11:47 AM (V13WU)

a certain someone just came in drunk from last night

Posted by: REDACTED at November 19, 2022 11:50 AM (us2H3)

64
Original Literature is Like Original Sin (They Both Happened Long Ago To People I Didn't Know) - a limerick

They're trying to cancel Shakespeare? Who knew?
And replace him with Maya Angelou
But when you ponder all these things
You'll see "Why The Caged Bird Sings"
Is just a re-write of "Taming of the Shrew"

Posted by: Muldoon at November 19, 2022 11:51 AM (ykeLU)

65 Endumbened? Thats being kind. Humankind is becoming useless meatbags.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 19, 2022 11:51 AM (VwHCD)

66 Forbes posted a ridiculous piece claiming that FTX was an "alt-right") Because - oh who cares, they didnt need no reasons.
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They were taken in by a 4chan-style op; and apparently "I think [Caroline] can be saved" is longtime meme.

https://twitter.com/jonst0kes/status/
1593663585967755264

Thread here as an ordinary, 'unrolled' webpage:
https://tinyurl.com/4xs36jzr

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 19, 2022 11:51 AM (yikp0)

67 The Oregon Symphony, which I think is fairly typical

Also, the resident conductor at the Oregon Symphony likes to start the concert by talking for a few minutes about the people whose works they will be performing.

Recently, the conductor talked about Tchaikovsky, and he talked about Tchaikovsky's place in Russian classical music, and the incredible culture of 19th Century Saint Petersburg that Tchaikovsky was a important part of.

JUST KIDDING - he only talked about the fact that Tchaikovsky was homosexual, of course.

Because the only interesting thing about Tchaikovsky is that he was homosexual.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 19, 2022 11:52 AM (KCOCK)

68 I am thankful that Merrick Garland has set his Special Prosecutor on Republican Congressmen.

Because now its all out in the open.

I don't think we are going to make it to elections in 2024.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 11:52 AM (pwExq)

69 Stupidity and wisdom are as easily grasped as infectious diseases, so choose your friends carefully.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 19, 2022 11:52 AM (anj39)

70 Here is an idea for new House, INVESTIGATE MERRIC GARLAND, SUBPOENA MERRICK GARLAND, SUBPOENA MERRICK GARLAND's SUBORDINATES.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 11:47 AM (V13WU)

Can the new GOP house impeach Garland, and if they do, is he enjoined from acting as Att. General while the impeachment is ongoing? Make the process the punishment.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 11:52 AM (f7xOM)

71 62 I don't understand crypto. And I sure don't understand the crypto ATM machine at one of the local gas stations, owned and operated by some mid east types. Can anybody give me a thumbnail rundown on crypto ATMs?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 19, 2022 11:50 AM (lz5hY)

they were going to go with Cryptic but thought that might to obvious

Posted by: REDACTED at November 19, 2022 11:52 AM (us2H3)

72 This was some type of op. At first glance, not unlike Epstein.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 11:43 AM (NWBBy)

I think they're as likely as another well connected professors' kids, in fact their family connection helped them immeasurably. Op? Probably, and if so Gary Gensler is a huge part
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:45 AM (Zzbjj)

So much of it is sleight of hand stuff. I hate to keep harping on Epstein, but the general public just accepts that Epstein is dead (is he?), and therefore the nastiness he was involved in is over. End of story.

Epstein was a small player in a larger scheme. That he was SO good at ingratiating himself into the Big Boy camps is probably what got him in trouble. Had he stuck to his basic role of blackmailing "obscure" professors and money men, rather than hobnobbing with Clintons and so many other public figures, he might still be on the job.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 11:53 AM (NWBBy)

73 What will Julliard and Curtis Institute of Music teach if they accept this decoloniztion baloney? How will this affect the repertoire of the various orchestras?
Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2022 11:28 AM (dCxaZ)

We will wind up with works comprised of klaxons and industrial noises as being "more familiar to the lives of the proletariat"

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 11:53 AM (xhaym)

74 I once abruptly quit a job over discovering that it was actually decaffeinated coffee. Then my boss cried about it. Real tears. Live and learn mf. Don't fk around with coffee.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at November 19, 2022 11:53 AM (buTO7)

75 Can anybody give me a thumbnail rundown on crypto ATMs?

*******

If you don't know who the mark is, YOU are the mark.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 19, 2022 11:53 AM (ykeLU)

76 I read some people in certain countries use crypto that is untraceable to pay for insulin illegally because they cant afford it otherwise. Its literally the only thing keeping them alive.

Crypto is flawed because it only works if it is truly decentralized and subject to free market conditions, and thus far we havent seen one that fits these two criterion yet

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 19, 2022 11:53 AM (VTu1l)

77 I don't understand crypto. And I sure don't understand the crypto ATM machine at one of the local gas stations, owned and operated by some mid east types. Can anybody give me a thumbnail rundown on crypto ATMs?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 19, 2022 11:50 AM

I don't *get* crypto currency either, it seems to be one gigantic ponzi scheme to me, but real businesses accept it in lieu of cash. There is a taco place in McKinney, Texas that has a sign up that they accept crypto.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2022 11:54 AM (uNylN)

78 Forbes posted a ridiculous piece claiming that FTX was an "alt-right") Because - oh who cares, they didnt need no reasons.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Well, Forbes is the magazine for business and finance geniuses.

https://bit.ly/3ghyuPG

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 19, 2022 11:54 AM (FVME7)

79 71 Crypto means "secret" too. It is the secret way the WEF plans on stealing everything they ca,

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:54 AM (Zzbjj)

80 If you don't know who the mark is, YOU are the mark.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 19, 2022 11:53 AM (ykeLU)

what's this mean ?

Posted by: Mark at November 19, 2022 11:54 AM (us2H3)

81 Speaking of the Oregon Symphony at the Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall, I hope it has a section set aside for the homeless, it seems only proper. Maybe for the preps as long as they check their guns before entering.
As they play their Woke music.

Posted by: Colin at November 19, 2022 11:54 AM (8p0Zk)

82 According to Fried's own argument, we should hold her son *more* responsible for his fraud, given his rich, educated parents. . .

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See also Hunter Biden.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 19, 2022 11:55 AM (FVME7)

83 "Crypto" was created to fund illegal purchases anonymously. That's all I know about it.
What value it has now compared to an actual basket of goods? More like how many tulip bulbs can I get for one of these beanie babies.

I hope not too many Morons got caught up in this because I don't see it ending well.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 19, 2022 11:55 AM (FCbAQ)

84 Anyone see the meme of the Rhinoceros's f'ing while the nature photographer is looking the other way clueless about what's going on?

The caption under the Rhinos is ' FTX losing billions of dollars of client funds'

The caption under the photographer is ' Senators calling for the FTC to investigate Twitter'

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2022 11:56 AM (f+KrF)

85 Can the new GOP house impeach Garland, and if they do, is he enjoined from acting as Att. General while the impeachment is ongoing? Make the process the punishment.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 11:52 AM (f7xOM)

Sure, why not. We're only a few steps away from one political party going on teevee after they get power, and eating the hearts of their opponents.

I mean, if we're going to devolve into savages, let's at least get some entertainment out of it. Hearings are boring.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 11:56 AM (NWBBy)

86 The caption under the photographer is ' Senators calling for the FTC to investigate Twitter'

Ace posted it yesterday, and Elon himself tweeted it out.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at November 19, 2022 11:58 AM (tVkka)

87 "Some people are lamenting that none of the ugly stuff that came out this week was known or admitted before the election."

People were talking about it back in October.
https://tinyurl.com/3sy58bmx

Hedgeye ... "Skip to the (36:00) minute mark to watch Marc Cohodes' blistering, excoriating attack of FTX to Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough MADE ON OCTOBER 11... a month before the shit hit the fan." He asks "where did he get his money?, and "the guy is a nobody".

But this is the power of MFM "Flood Strategy", where only their propaganda "Big News Cycle" gets seen, others are censored. So a priority of BigGov is to force Musk to censor when they say to censor. ... crazy

Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2022 11:58 AM (Cus5s)

88 Speaking of the Oregon Symphony at the Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall, I hope it has a section set aside for the homeless, it seems only proper.

LOL. The theme for one recent Oregon Symphony season was "Coming Home", with commissioned works on the theme of homelessness.

Fortunately, there is an armed guard out front to keep the riff-raff out. (The guard used to be unarmed, but downtown Portland has deteriorated.)

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 19, 2022 11:58 AM (KCOCK)

89 The Woke do not attack racism, homophobia, sexism, bigotry or any of the other proclaimed "evils."

They are attacking achievement.

Because they have none.

Without the achievements of others to expose their failures, they become unique-- the first pansexual, two-spirit they/them to graduate from high school!--instead of the nobody that's done absolutely nothing that they really are.

Demand accomplishments, not credentials or self-named titles.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 19, 2022 11:58 AM (5EnGD)

90 I hope not too many Morons got caught up in this because I don't see it ending well.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 19, 2022 11:55 AM (FCbAQ)

Not one penny. Husband thinks it's a scam

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:59 AM (Zzbjj)

91 The caption under the photographer is ' Senators calling for the FTC to investigate Twitter'

Ace posted it yesterday, and Elon himself tweeted it out.
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at November 19, 2022 11:58 AM (tVkka)

I don't read the posts. Only the comments. 😀

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2022 11:59 AM (f+KrF)

92 I don't *get* crypto currency either, it seems to be one gigantic ponzi scheme to me, but real businesses accept it in lieu of cash. There is a taco place in McKinney, Texas that has a sign up that they accept crypto.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2022 11:54 AM (uNylN)

Well, their exposure is limited. They probably cash in their crypto as soon as they receive it, or use it to pay those suppliers that may also take crypto. But if the system crashes they are are only down by the fraction of the day's receipts that are in crypto. Kinda like if they were held up at gunpoint for the money in the till.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 11:59 AM (f7xOM)

93 Back to that crypto ATM, if you have 3 or 4 camel jockeys sitting around drinking tea, and their main product is glass products for the ganga and Newports, I dont think I would use my ATM card at the real ATM machine or pay for gas with it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 19, 2022 12:00 PM (lz5hY)

94 Big problem with crypto, is that even if you had an absolutely honest crypto platform, transaction all depend upon honest, and uninterrupted functioning if the Internet. Do you really want An EMP bomb or a Carrington Event wiping out the money economy?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 11:42 AM (f7xOM)

This is a problem with fiat currency as well. What proportion of US Dollars are printed and coined, versus the amount that is merely ledger entries?
A hard-core carrington event will create an incredible "haircut" for USD.

In theory, the dispersed nature of Bitcoin or Etherium's shared ledger means it would be preserved as long as the nodes are not actually destroyed

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:01 PM (xhaym)

95 Ace posted it yesterday, and Elon himself tweeted it out.
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at November 19, 2022 11:58 AM (tVkka)

That qualifies as "content."

Ain't nobody got time for that.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 12:01 PM (pwExq)

96 Liz Harrington: "One observer witnessed “Tabulator malfunction” for 22% of votes cast at their location"

Yeah, 'malfunction'.

"ERROR: Vote Does Not Comply With Results Target"

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2022 12:02 PM (hPvGe)

97 Remember the relatively young white guy who had started a crypto currency and lived in India. He died suddenly and he was the only one that knew the code to release the crypto funds.

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2022 12:02 PM (f+KrF)

98 Explaining Crypto - it's like that guy told Jack all those years ago, "Hey kid i got some absolutely incredible Magic Beans I'll give for that cow there!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2022 12:02 PM (q3gwH)

99 That's the plan. It's probably a good idea to consider, whatever you "own" now, and will own in the near future, will be confiscated.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 11:48 AM (NWBBy)

Well that's a good way to have "stuff" begin.
Lotsa folks won't take kindly to it. Those folks may "do some things".

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 19, 2022 12:03 PM (FCbAQ)

100 Two good essay sources this week:

Barnhardt explains money to the endumbened (there are several):
https://tinyurl.com/2p86sznn

And Frank Wright explains what is wrong with everyone:
https://tinyurl.com/2p9b5ffy

Posted by: sal at November 19, 2022 12:03 PM (y40tE)

101 Saw the reason for the Special Counsel (Steve McIntyre I believe).

Transfers all J6 docs, testimony, videos, etc. to Special Council - so unavailable to new Congress. "Under investigation" and all that.

Smart maneuver. These guys ain't stupid.

Posted by: phaedrus at November 19, 2022 12:03 PM (Oi8+x)

102 I also think that crypto is depressing the price of precious metals.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:03 PM (Zzbjj)

103 And that guy in India didn't "die" die, he just changed his name.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2022 12:03 PM (q3gwH)

104 What will Julliard and Curtis Institute of Music teach if they accept this decoloniztion baloney? How will this affect the repertoire of the various orchestras?
Posted by: kallisto

Bach should be safe. What with that curly wig he wore, I'm pretty he transitioned.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 19, 2022 12:04 PM (FVME7)

105 And that guy in India didn't "die" die, he just changed his name.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2022 12:03 PM (q3gwH)

Is that how the story ended up? I didn't follow it beyond the report of his death along with the code.

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2022 12:04 PM (f+KrF)

106 I imagine the new repertoire will have lots more cowbell...

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 19, 2022 12:05 PM (a/4+U)

107 We need to get rid of the National Endowment for the Arts and any public subsidy, govt money leads to govt mandates of content
Posted by: CN
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I used to overtly distinguish between National Education Association (NEA), and National Endowment For the Arts (NEA) when leveling criticism. It's no longer necessary to do so.

O'Sullivan's Law -- "All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2022 12:05 PM (XnsY+)

108 Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:01 PM (xhaym)

Crypto will be taken over by the Fed Bank... bank on it. They cannot allow an unfettered source of exchange they do not control, nor make money off of.

The current credit card system IS essentially crypto, backed by the full faith and credit of the largest debtor in the history of the world.... and on every transaction they make 2 -3 %. There is no actual money being printed, nor exchanged... its all digits in computers. NO HOW this is worth 2 - 3% of our entire retail economy to run.... $100s of Billions a year. Banksters will not allow that revenue stream to vanish.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 12:06 PM (oHd/0)

109 Crypto is the darling of the WEF
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 11:46 AM (Zzbjj)

WEF does not like Crypto, they love Central Bank Digital Currency, which is like fiat without the need to actually print bills, and can be tracked, monitored, rejected for any type of purchase desired, and turned off remotely.

CBDC is controlled centrally, crypto is run from dispersed nodes that you could run from . . . your bathroom closet, I suppose.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:06 PM (xhaym)

110 Tom Servo @ 103
So he dissapeared his ownself? The perfect crime?

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2022 12:06 PM (gktX6)

111 You can't prove its not true.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2022 12:06 PM (q3gwH)

112 Endumbened? Thats being kind. Humankind is becoming useless meatbags.

Remember the Meatpuppets? they were visionary

Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2022 12:07 PM (dCxaZ)

113 Something about crypto tells me there's a significant amount of money laundering going on.

And that several governments are running it.

I'm not smart enough to know, but I also think it's increasing the velocity of money; dirty money cleaned and back in the system faster.
Which indicates... high inflation.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 19, 2022 12:08 PM (5EnGD)

114 Can anybody give me a thumbnail rundown on crypto ATMs?
Posted by: bill in arkansas

I've seen coin sorting machines that give crypto too.
They take cold hard cash coins and give you virtual bits of electronic money.
Said virtual bits can and do disappear at someone's whim.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 19, 2022 12:08 PM (+dlWd)

115 "ERROR: Vote Does Not Comply With Results Target"

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2022 12:02 PM (hPvGe)

I downloaded and printed the deposition given by an Italian guy who worked at a defense contractor over there. He described how votes in the 2020 election were being changed to favor teh Bidet. I can't recall his name though.

Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2022 12:09 PM (dCxaZ)

116 62 I don't understand crypto. And I sure don't understand the crypto ATM machine at one of the local gas stations, owned and operated by some mid east types. Can anybody give me a thumbnail rundown on crypto ATMs?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the doo

I don't understand crypto either. When some rando is telling about how great crypto is they remind me of Amway salesmen or that stoner dude telling me I need to just smoke some dope.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 19, 2022 12:09 PM (KvJ5z)

117 And Frank Wright explains what is wrong with everyone.

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I ought to run for the White House in 2024 under the slogan Straighten Up and Fly Right.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 19, 2022 12:10 PM (FVME7)

118 Can the new GOP house impeach Garland, and if they do, is he enjoined from acting as Att. General while the impeachment is ongoing? Make the process the punishment.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 11:52 AM (f7xOM)

Yes, he can be em-peached. Garland boldly disclosed on camera to breaking the law, to conducting a political persecution of a presidential candidate because he felt like it. House has every right to go after his sorry ass.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:10 PM (V13WU)

119 One thing that concerns me about this SBF thing is, believe it or not, its effect on foreign perception of the USA. Most, if not all, other places look at some Thing and says, "Who stands to gain?" and goes with that answer, as the most likely entity responsible for whatever that Thing is.
This SBF Thing is so egregious, so obviously corrupt, it's impossible for outside countries not to do this.
It's the kind of thing that can sink countries from the outside. It's one thing for a political party to damage their rep inside a country, it's quite another for a regime to damage a country's rep so thoroughly nobody outside trusts it anymore.
In my experience, a lot of other places view USA as a 'young country' and therefore brash, and kind of obnoxious, making lots of mistakes, but not thoroughly corrupt like all the old places.
This thing, though... with Ukraine? IDK... It could change that perception, and once that shift is made, that's it.

Posted by: LenNeal at November 19, 2022 12:10 PM (43xH1)

120 FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried's family boasts deep ties to Democrat power players

To steal, as it were, from another Moron: What part of Democrat did you not understand?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 19, 2022 12:10 PM (yQpMk)

121 There is a taco place in McKinney, Texas that has a sign up that they accept crypto.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2022 11:54 AM (uNylN)

Well, their exposure is limited. They probably cash in their crypto as soon as they receive it, or use it to pay those suppliers that may also take crypto. But if the system crashes they are are only down by the fraction of the day's receipts that are in crypto. Kinda like if they were held up at gunpoint for the money in the till.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 11:59 AM (f7xOM)

Prolly rayciss of me to say, but I gotta think a taco place that's accepting crypto, they ain't REALLY a taco place, as in, their primary market is the other stuff they sell under the table.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 12:10 PM (XfBY/)

122 AOP no, a cabinet officer being impeached (equivalent of indicted) by the House does not technically limit that officer's actions in any way. Conviction by the Senate removes them from office. Of course is a country that appears to be long gone, impeachment alone would suffice, politically, for the cabinet officer to resign (these days, a GOP office-holder still would, probably).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2022 12:11 PM (OTzUX)

123 there is a Catholic prep school that is based on the classical education model. It's somewhere in the Berkshires, or Connecticut I think. The headmaster includes physical activity like daily hikes, not sportsball necessarily, and teaches skills and subjects that men should know. He includes teaching the all-male student body how to be chivalrous toward women.

Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2022 12:12 PM (dCxaZ)

124 Anyone say fuck the Canadian pussy Jordan Peterson for his first thing being back on twitter to beg Elon to not let anonymous non-verified people be seen by verified people? Because fuck that pussy Canadian that wants censorship to continue so he doesn't have to see people saying mean stuff to him.
Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2022 11:50 AM (aRLgQ)

I would hate to be Jordan Peterson. For his own reasons, he decided to take a stance against the University system of Canada's stance of "gender", got fired, got forced out of his career of therapy, and now has huge numbers of random people waking up in the morning deciding to fuck with him, his family, business associates, waitresses that serve him in restaurants, and probably are conspiring to kill his pets.
All he has to do to stop the continual attacks is to shut up and burn all his works, and turn his back on people who really need help.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:13 PM (xhaym)

125 How will this affect the repertoire of the various orchestras?

The Chicago Symphonic Kettledrums.
Posted by: t-bird

Looking forward to the emergence of the didgeridoo

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at November 19, 2022 12:13 PM (ymiae)

126 This is a problem with fiat currency as well. What proportion of US Dollars are printed and coined, versus the amount that is merely ledger entries?
A hard-core carrington event will create an incredible "haircut" for USD.

In theory, the dispersed nature of Bitcoin or Etherium's shared ledger means it would be preserved as long as the nodes are not actually destroyed
Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:01 PM (xhaym)

Well, the greenback dollars in the envelope under the mattress will continue to be greenback dollars, and may well gain value. Your own personal banking and investments? I guess that depends upon how and where the data is stored.

Here's an idea for software developers, call it "Bankshot". A little program for your home PC, that once a day, dials into any on-line bank accounts you own, and views and prints the summary page. Costs you a little printer ink and paper, but you have a daily hard copy of your holdings, and keeps your printer limbered up and working.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 12:13 PM (5s54T)

127 There was a resolution in the house - H.REs 743 Impeaching Merrick Brian Garland, Attorney General of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors. " This resolution impeaches Attorney General Merrick Garland for high crimes and misdemeanors relating to investigating threats against school personnel and to a conflict of interest." They need to revisit that one. Add a few more items.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:13 PM (V13WU)

128 Prolly rayciss of me to say, but I gotta think a taco place that's accepting crypto, they ain't REALLY a taco place, as in, their primary market is the other stuff they sell under the table.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 12:10 PM (XfBY/)

Gus Fring would like a word with you for disparaging his completely above board business.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 19, 2022 12:13 PM (FCbAQ)

129 They can impeach him.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:14 PM (V13WU)

130 Screwtape speaks loudly in SBF.

Posted by: Marooned at November 19, 2022 12:14 PM (w6hJ9)

131 Fidelity Investments is getting into crypto ... I haven't read up on it much, but seems a little "concerning". I've considered Fidelity on of the more "conservative/safe" of the giant brokerages, based on what some conservatives say. ... But every institution is being tested and pressured. ...

I'm trying to buy local, and buy "stuff" .. stuff that is functional for making money, or at least holds value.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2022 12:14 PM (Cus5s)

132 And that guy in India didn't "die" die, he just changed his name.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2022 12:03 PM (q3gwH)

Is that how the story ended up? I didn't follow it beyond the report of his death along with the code.
Posted by: polynikes

I don't think anybody really knows.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 19, 2022 12:14 PM (FVME7)

133 Here's an idea for software developers, call it "Bankshot". A little program for your home PC, that once a day, dials into any on-line bank accounts you own, and views and prints the summary page. Costs you a little printer ink and paper, but you have a daily hard copy of your holdings, and keeps your printer limbered up and working.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 12:13 PM (5s54T)

Not a bad idea. There's some hacking and exposure risk there but you're right, and dead on with keeping your printer ink from turning to shit.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 19, 2022 12:15 PM (FCbAQ)

134 Scored two books by Henrik van Loon at the thrift store and will add them to the Western Civ collection.
One is "The Arts" and the other is about music.

Grabbed them up before they could be discarded due to age. He died in 1944, so they're elderly.

Posted by: sal at November 19, 2022 12:16 PM (y40tE)

135 Tulips

Posted by: polynikes at November 19, 2022 11:50 AM (f+KrF)

You have been saying that for a week, as if it is an actual argument. I would love to hear your analysis of the Dutch Tulip Frenzy as mapped against crypto. It is an interest of mine, and I find the standard argument of "excess animal spirits and base greed" to be a Paul Krugman level of hand-waving.

Do you have a better analysis of the economic and social drivers of the phenomenon?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:16 PM (xhaym)

136 Here's the boys' classical academy, it's in Elmhurst PA, not the Berkshires:

https://tinyurl.com/3sknhyj4

Tuition: $17,500k/year

Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2022 12:18 PM (dCxaZ)

137 No, Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury is probably not an Atheist. He's just a left leaning clergyman.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2022 12:18 PM (vH/6k)

138 Said virtual bits can and do disappear at someone's whim.
---
The Law we are about to learn good and hard:
If you can't stand in front of it with a gun and keep another from taking it, you don't own it.

That includes your bank account, retirement account, Social Security ....

How are you going to pay your bills when the internet is down?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 19, 2022 12:18 PM (5EnGD)

139 Any constitutional officer can be impeached by the House, at any time, for any reason (or no reason, as with Trump, twice). The Senate is under no obligation to take up any impeachment, just as with anything else that the House does. And the passage of a resolution of impeachment does not affect the powers of the officer in their office.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2022 12:18 PM (OTzUX)

140 Maybe the reason the FED is so hot and heavy for a digital dollar is SBF's successful transfer of wealth via such a model to himself.

Posted by: Marooned at November 19, 2022 12:18 PM (w6hJ9)

141 How will this affect the repertoire of the various orchestras?

The Chicago Symphonic Kettledrums.
Posted by: t-bird

Looking forward to the emergence of the didgeridoo
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable

Concerto For Hollow Log Beaten On By a Stick.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 19, 2022 12:19 PM (FVME7)

142 All he has to do to stop the continual attacks is to shut up and burn all his works, and turn his back on people who really need help.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:13 PM (xhaym)

And who are a lot of people that likely feel the need to post anonymously online?

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2022 12:19 PM (aRLgQ)

143 Saw the reason for the Special Counsel (Steve McIntyre I believe).

Transfers all J6 docs, testimony, videos, etc. to Special Council - so unavailable to new Congress. "Under investigation" and all that.

Smart maneuver. These guys ain't stupid.

Posted by: phaedrus at November 19, 2022 12:03 PM

Plus the new congress can't even ask for anything because "an ongoing criminal investigation" so the doj can legally stonewall a sitting congress.

The only thing republicans can do is refuse to fund the special counsel which will lead to a government shut down $hit show.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2022 12:19 PM (uNylN)

144 131 Fidelity Investments is getting into crypto ... I haven't read up on it much, but seems a little "concerning". I've considered Fidelity on of the more "conservative/safe" of the giant brokerages, based on what some conservatives say. ... But every institution is being tested and pressured. ...

I'm trying to buy local, and buy "stuff" .. stuff that is functional for making money, or at least holds value.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2022 12:14 PM (Cus5s)

Had not heard that... it is concerning. Wonder if it will be fund specific because I want NO CRYPTO funds... gonna have to talk to my guy there.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 12:20 PM (oHd/0)

145 Also, bought AH Lloyd's 'LONG LIVE DEATH' book about the military aspect of the Spanish Civil War. It has the all-time best dedication I've ever seen. Ha!
Unusually, I sat down and read the entire thing cover-to-cover.
That's rare for me. It's an excellent book and I highly recommend it; despite (you saw it coming) a lot of proofreading issues.
But it's very well done. Succinct, to-the-point, no rambling, well organized. Good stuff. And, also highly unusual, I paid actual full price for it brand new. Well done.

Posted by: LenNeal at November 19, 2022 12:20 PM (43xH1)

146 Costs you a little printer ink and paper, but you have a daily hard copy of your holdings, and keeps your printer limbered up and working.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 12:13 PM (5s54T)

Why would anyone want to do that?

Posted by: Maricopa Co. Election Board at November 19, 2022 12:21 PM (XfBY/)

147 There's apparently a real lack of interest by the administration to find out what happened to the funds FTX was responsible for. Had it been a crypto scheme to funnel money into, say, Trump's war chest I imagine there would have been dozens of 3AM no-knock FBI and SWAT raids by now.

And non-stop media coverage at Mar-a-Lago as the press awaits an arrest.

It's also interesting that the main players here, these weirdo kids, are more or less hung out to dry by the left.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2022 12:21 PM (Q4IgG)

148 I like my wimmens barefoot and in the kitchen heating up whatever fast food DoorDash has dropped off when theys not be making babies from their next baby daddy for the taxpayers to pay for and voting for our democrat buffers in the deep state.

Posted by: The Federal Government at November 19, 2022 12:21 PM (R/m4+)

149 Plus the new congress can't even ask for anything because "an ongoing criminal investigation" so the doj can legally stonewall a sitting congress.

The only thing republicans can do is refuse to fund the special counsel which will lead to a government shut down $hit show.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2022 12:19 PM (uNylN)

Actually, no comment on ongoing investigations is just a Policy, not law. It does not supersede Congress's authority UNLESS they want it to.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 12:21 PM (oHd/0)

150 More important to me than crypto is my egg supply. Been getting them through the barber shop. Barber's neighbor raises birds. Seems the chickens are on strike.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 19, 2022 12:22 PM (lz5hY)

151 Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:13 PM (xhaym)

Plus he suffers from anxiety disorder, I imagine brought on by the shitstorm that arose from him speaking truth to powyr.

I heard a bit of his podcast where he said that prior to him becoming a target for all the SJW anti-christs, his lectures were regularly highly rated by the students on their end-of-semester reviews. He said one of the frequent comments was: "Professor Peterson taught me to think in a different way"

Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2022 12:22 PM (dCxaZ)

152 A solid sign of endumbing to me has been to total ineptitude of any large project undertaken in this country in the past 25 years. Rampant cost overruns, flat out failure of designs, you name it. For example:
- The Artemis moon rocket which finally launched
- The F-35, Crusader SP Howitzer, Littoral Combat Ship, Zumwalt class cruiser.
_ Just today the Corps of Engineers announced the budget for the new lock between Lakes Superior and Huron needs $3.8 billion - over three times initial projections. "...some of the assumptions ... early in the design process just did not fully capture the cost implications of constructing a lock along the northern boundary of our country, on an island that can only be accessed by crossing a very active commercial navigation channel."
In other words, they totally f#$ked up the planning

Posted by: George V at November 19, 2022 12:22 PM (ugbqN)

153 Geraldo Rivera@GeraldoRivera
Republicans get control of the House & the first they do is…No not explore how to tame inflation or crime etc. They launch an investigation of President & Hunter Biden.
Boring. Divisive. Retro. Unwanted. Zero positive impact on the lives of Americans. Is this the real Red Wave?

-
Yeah, what do Hunter and Joe have to do with crime and inflation

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 19, 2022 12:24 PM (FVME7)

154 More important to me than crypto is my egg supply. Been getting them through the barber shop. Barber's neighbor raises birds. Seems the chickens are on strike.

It's winter. They stop in the winter. (Although I think you can mess with them with bright lights)

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2022 12:24 PM (Ac9bb)

155 That Twitter thread by Dr. Christie is heartbreaking because it's so true. "Princess to doormat in 2 seconds" was a good observation.

Pookette fights any compliment given to her, so she's not really a princess personality. She's more of a barbarian.

Posted by: pookysgirl, mother of a cat warrior at November 19, 2022 12:24 PM (XKZwp)

156 Later kids.
I'm packing for Austin! Off to see the Grandkids of Diogenes, #s 1-4!
Woohoo!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 19, 2022 12:25 PM (anj39)

157 More Great Thoughts From Geraldo.

Geraldo Rivera@GeraldoRivera
For the good of the nation, Ford pardoned Nixon.
For the good of the nation, Biden should pardon Trump.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 19, 2022 12:25 PM (FVME7)

158 But to KT's post theme and logo, absolutely the country has been dumbed down, as I say here all the time. This applies mostly to the "soft" but critical and central things like values, standards, especially civic culture - so that amidst all that, you still have amazing advances in a narrow, technical sense (medicine, technology).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2022 12:26 PM (OTzUX)

159 Not a bad idea. There's some hacking and exposure risk there but you're right, and dead on with keeping your printer ink from turning to shit.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 19, 2022 12:15 PM (FCbAQ)

One way to do that would be to require that the user manually enter the password, via an on-screen prompt. The user would set the program to offer the on-screen prompt on several occasions during the day, until it was fulfilled for that day. Or, if the banks wanted to cooperate, allow for two levels of passwords, one just lets you view your holdings, the second level lets you move money around.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 12:26 PM (5s54T)

160 Comedian Pete Barbutti used a broom striking a microphone.
Note the broom "gig bag".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MkrGDRrA3g

Posted by: gourmand du jour, overcast skies at November 19, 2022 12:26 PM (jTmQV)

161 Chess anal bead cheating. Fishing tournament cheating. There was some other competition that was cheating.

Everything is fake and gay.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 12:27 PM (pwExq)

162 More important to me than crypto is my egg supply. Been getting them through the barber shop. Barber's neighbor raises birds. Seems the chickens are on strike.

It's winter. They stop in the winter. (Although I think you can mess with them with bright lights)

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2022 12:24 PM

Chickens here in NE Texas lay eggs throughout the winter. Granted we don't get week after week where the temps stay below freezing but we do get occasional periods of freezing or below temps.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2022 12:27 PM (uNylN)

163 The can't impeach if they are not in power. They can impeach now. And then Democrats have to explain why an impeached AG is still to be trusted. And then they can run on it.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:27 PM (V13WU)

164 Investment in tangibles can be risky. I'll watch Antiques Road Show when they have value then and now, and lately it seems value is depressed. We always half way kid about it, but guns and to a lesser degree ammunition are getting to be the only safe bet. You will always get your money back, and usually profit.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 19, 2022 12:27 PM (lz5hY)

165 Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 19, 2022 11:55 AM (FCbAQ)

Crypto has a shared ledger that tracks each "coin" back to its "mining" and every transaction til today, it is indelible on the blockchain. That is how you know it is a real coin and not a random bit of code.
all transfers can be seen and tracked, once the coin is identified, since everyone has a ledger.

The benefit to crypto is that it can be transferred and the debt cleared without involving a bank.

If you make a credit card purchase or write a check to cash, the information of the purchase goes to the credit card company or bank, which can take a week to complete, with the cost of about 3% to 5% of the purchase to fund the transfer. The CC pays the vendor out of their own funds, until the transfer is completed - this is why it is possible to have charge backs by the way.
The only way banks are more traceable is because the regulators can force the banks to take the position and spread 'em on a whim.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:27 PM (xhaym)

166 They launch an investigation of President & Hunter Biden.

==

to start. does not mean they should not be looking at economy.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:28 PM (V13WU)

167 Plus he suffers from anxiety disorder, I imagine brought on by the shitstorm that arose from him speaking truth to powyr.

I heard a bit of his podcast where he said that prior to him becoming a target for all the SJW anti-christs, his lectures were regularly highly rated by the students on their end-of-semester reviews. He said one of the frequent comments was: "Professor Peterson taught me to think in a different way"
Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2022 12:22 PM (dCxaZ)

Peterson is one of the good guys. He's an intellectual, he takes complex concepts and makes them understandable to anyone willing to listen.

That he isn't the greatest warrior on the battle lines is not really something I would fault him for, he's human after all. And if he said something somebody doesn't like on "our side" on twatter, I would be willing to bet he's as likely as anybody to be considering whether what he said was right or not, and will make a correction if it wasn't.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 12:28 PM (XfBY/)

168 "Had not heard that... it is concerning. Wonder if it will be fund specific because I want NO CRYPTO funds... gonna have to talk to my guy there." Posted by: Romeo13

I may have read it wrong, but they call it Fidelity Crypto. BUT maybe it is just set up to trade the various cryptos, not their own "money". It says "who can join the Fidelity Crypto early access list?" so I thought it would be their own thing ... probably not.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2022 12:29 PM (Cus5s)

169 I would not dismiss House's ability to impeach Merrick Garland.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:29 PM (V13WU)

170 Total spent on midterm elections 16,700,000,000
8,000,000 spent by Brinkmann
Does anyone think that was significant?

Posted by: Paul at November 19, 2022 12:29 PM (MCtJQ)

171 I don't understand crypto either. When some rando is telling about how great crypto is they remind me of Amway salesmen or that stoner dude telling me I need to just smoke some dope.
Posted by: CaliGirl

Crypto is just the newest version of an exotic financial instrument used as lucre in the high stakes poker game played with our money . Any one remember credit default swaps?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at November 19, 2022 12:30 PM (ymiae)

172 LenNeal,

I bet he'd appreciate your review in the Book Thread.
Also, thanks for 119- something I had not considered.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at November 19, 2022 12:30 PM (y40tE)

173 Annasaurous Wrecks @ 157-
Goraldo Rovera needs to stick a trout in it. President Trump don't need no pardon from nobody, especially the guy that stole the 2020 election.

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2022 12:31 PM (gktX6)

174 Chess anal bead cheating. Fishing tournament cheating. There was some other competition that was cheating.

Everything is fake and gay.
Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 12:27 PM (pwExq)

Cornholing. So yeah, fake and teh ghey.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 12:31 PM (XfBY/)

175 163 The can't impeach if they are not in power. They can impeach now. And then Democrats have to explain why an impeached AG is still to be trusted. And then they can run on it.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:27 PM (V13WU)

They aren't in power now. They won't be until January.

And the Democrats will just say its partisan, that Republicans are trying to overhtrow someone who was properly appointed. They will also note that McConnell and 18 other Republicans voted to approve Garland's appointment.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 12:31 PM (pwExq)

176 Ewww... HuffPo (saw it on MSN) has a hit piece out that Alito leaked the Hobby Lobby decision 8 years ago. 'Report' leaked to them.... Alito says no... but headline makes it look like Fact.

Bet they know who the Roe leaker is, and are prepping the battlefield for the release of that info, with Alito did it first... even if untrue.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 12:32 PM (oHd/0)

177 Chickens molt 2x a year (summer / winter) and quit laying eggs for awhile while they go through this process. Our neighbors have chickens and this is what they told me the other day.

I had been under the impression they just went dormant during the winter, but apparently that's not entirely true. They can slow down if it's really, really cold. But as mentioned, they can be "tricked" with heat lamps, lights, etc.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2022 12:32 PM (Q4IgG)

178 I recommend "Dumbing Down: Essays on the Strip-Mining of American Culture" -- it's a couple years old but still relevant.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 19, 2022 12:32 PM (X+Ku8)

179 169 I would not dismiss House's ability to impeach Merrick Garland.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:29 PM (V13WU)

I think they dismissed it without you.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:33 PM (Zzbjj)

180 "And just to be clear, Fidelity Crypto is not a new coin."

"At launch, bitcoin and ethereum will be the only cryptocurrencies offered because, as of today, they are the top cryptocurrencies by market cap. That means they hold the highest total value among all circulating cryptocurrencies. Additional cryptocurrencies are being evaluated to expand trading opportunities over time."

sorry, I was wrong ... not sure if they are holding crypto for trade if that means more, or less, risk for the individual. Kinda takes away the anonymity part of crypto.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2022 12:33 PM (Cus5s)

181 Rivera's obviously an idiot, always has been, but the House focusing on impeachments or investigations would be typical and pointless, including very much pointless politically, for them.

And it's hilarious to imagine the House GOP focusing on inflation. What would they do? Return to the rhetoric - and actual politics and votes - of 20-30 years ago, when government spending and deficits were a central issue? That would require a complete transformation of the people just elected or re-elected.

The current hyperinflation has its roots in a lot more than the policies adopted since January 2021 (and the GOP of course has its stupid fingerprints all over the biggest one of those, in this respect - "infrastructure").

It will actually be darkly humorous to see what the House does pretend to attempt to do. As they "successfully" ran on nothing, apart from pathetic blather about "restoring the American Dream", they of course are obligated to nothing in particular.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2022 12:34 PM (OTzUX)

182 Just today the Corps of Engineers announced the budget for the new lock between Lakes Superior and Huron needs $3.8 billion - over three times initial projections. "

Some general is not going to become Chief of Engineers.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 19, 2022 12:34 PM (KCOCK)

183 Prolly rayciss of me to say, but I gotta think a taco place that's accepting crypto, they ain't REALLY a taco place, as in, their primary market is the other stuff they sell under the table.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 12:10 PM (XfBY/)

could be an El Salvadoran place, or have lots of Salvadoreño customers. El Salvador uses Crypto as an official currency.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:34 PM (xhaym)

184 >>>"decentralized control"

Of crypto? That always one of the biggest selling points of crypto zealots, yes? Never mind that to get in and out of crypto, there was always .gov there waiting to say hello.

Posted by: flounder at November 19, 2022 12:34 PM (1IjJM)

185 House should not impeach Garland according to a few on this thread. Noted. Thank you for your opinion.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:34 PM (V13WU)

186 I may have read it wrong, but they call it Fidelity Crypto. BUT maybe it is just set up to trade the various cryptos, not their own "money". It says "who can join the Fidelity Crypto early access list?" so I thought it would be their own thing ... probably not.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2022 12:29 PM (Cus5s)

sounds like a separate fund you can join... I'm OK with that... as long as it does not get into MY funds (which are pretty conservative, although it looks like I need to get out of my Canada funds).

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 12:34 PM (oHd/0)

187
And the Democrats will just say its partisan, that Republicans are trying to overhtrow someone who was properly appointed. They will also note that McConnell and 18 other Republicans voted to approve Garland's appointment.
Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 12:31 PM (pwExq)

This just shows the bipartisanship of corruption.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:35 PM (Zzbjj)

188 177 Yeah, the barber's friend explained that. I think the lady with the chickens is into that free range stuff, don't mess with the chickens. Very good eggs, but sadly, it's back to Braums for me until they start laying again.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 19, 2022 12:35 PM (lz5hY)

189 Yes we are getting dumber. Critical thinking has been wrung out of generations in stages by organized religion, culture, and the educational system. Emotion and herd behavior rule the day. We really are all Devo.

Posted by: Are we not men? at November 19, 2022 12:35 PM (pLSJi)

190 The US dollar is crypto. 97% of dollars in the world are digital.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2022 12:36 PM (8GBH4)

191 "decentralized control"

You can't get more decentralized than a ten-way orgy in the Bahamas with no record-keeping.

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2022 12:36 PM (Sv58p)

192 I think they dismissed it without you.
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:33 PM (Zzbjj)

Who are they ? The House ? I don't know about that. Garland is sloppy and vindictive. Used to having cover. He does not have as of it much now.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:37 PM (V13WU)

193 185 House should not impeach Garland according to a few on this thread. Noted. Thank you for your opinion.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:34 PM (V13WU)

I think they should, I just think they won't. A lot of the house is dem or corrupt and in on the grifts. McCarthy has hinted all along that he will not impeach, just have show trials and show investigations

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:37 PM (Zzbjj)

194 "Yesterday, in the car, I heard part of a radio program with guests from a start-up crypto company out of Fresno featuring "decentralized control". Interesting concept, and they promised that it bypasses all of the problems that beset FTX. Local exchanges of goods and services are emphasized.

With an undertone of desperation, I think. Though they are trying not to sound TOO worried. I think they could be wiped out, though. By the government behemoth."

I think you're mis-undertanding this. Most crypto is decentralized by default; that's the whole point. All of these problems with FTX and other exchanges are because they are adding a layer of opacity and required trust in order to allow centralization to make things more convenient or grokkable for some people: generally if your stuff is on an exchange, **you don't hold the keys and don't actually own it**. And there isn't anything the feds can do to actually stop a properly constructed crypto other than burn shoe leather, kick doors, and jail people - although a ban would certainly affect crypto market values.

Posted by: somedood at November 19, 2022 12:37 PM (qVRSW)

195 FTX & Bankman = Chicago Mercantile Exchange & John Corzine

Posted by: April's clock at November 19, 2022 12:37 PM (u+/Fy)

196 That Twitter thread by Dr. Christie is heartbreaking because it's so true. "Princess to doormat in 2 seconds" was a good observation.
------

I'll have to look up thread to figure out what that is about, but Ellison immediately came to mind. In her case, of course, she undoubtedly has 10's of millions stashed away somewhere. Softens the blow somewhat, I imagine.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2022 12:37 PM (SbsCg)

197 185 House should not impeach Garland according to a few on this thread. Noted. Thank you for your opinion.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:34 PM (V13WU)

Maybe. I think they should impeach him.

But nothing will happen. Senate won't convict. So what does that leave?

BTW the Special Prosecutor has in his brief to investigate Republican members of Congress.

Shit status getting real.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 12:38 PM (pwExq)

198 More important to me than crypto is my egg supply. Been getting them through the barber shop. Barber's neighbor raises birds. Seems the chickens are on strike.
Posted by: bill in arkansas,

Not on strike, just resting . Consider that the most productive laying breeds pop out between 250 and 300 eggs a year . That's hard work . My chickens normally take several months off. I waterglass eggs so I have eggs all year round . I currently have about 8 dozen left in the pantry room.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at November 19, 2022 12:38 PM (ymiae)

199 Who are they ? The House ? I don't know about that. Garland is sloppy and vindictive. Used to having cover. He does not have as of it much now.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:37 PM (V13WU)

McCarthy will not do more than gnaw around the edges and make a loud noise

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:38 PM (Zzbjj)

200 Shit status getting real.
Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 12:38 PM (pwExq)

Maybe their Special Prosecutor will be as totally cosmetic as Durham? No, they mean what they say, unlike the Shakespearean Failure Theatre of the GOP

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:39 PM (Zzbjj)

201 Crypto has a shared ledger that tracks each "coin" back to its "mining" and every transaction til today, it is indelible on the blockchain. That is how you know it is a real coin and not a random bit of code.
all transfers can be seen and tracked, once the coin is identified, since everyone has a ledger.

The benefit to crypto is that it can be transferred and the debt cleared without involving a bank.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:27 PM (xhaym)

Unless I have the skills, knowledge, and resources to independently replicate all that mathematicking, I'm going to have to take it on trust, aren't I?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 12:40 PM (5s54T)

202 McCarthy will not do more than gnaw around the edges and make a loud noise
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:38 PM (Zzbjj)

Houses Miss Lindsey... talk big... and do nuttin.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 12:40 PM (oHd/0)

203 Calling it now. Any calls for impeachments or investigations will be met with cries of "But we're better than that!"

Posted by: NR Pax at November 19, 2022 12:40 PM (DiLht)

204 195 FTX & Bankman = Chicago Mercantile Exchange & John Corzine
Posted by: April's clock at November 19, 2022 12:37 PM (u+/Fy)

And will have the same ending. Gensler will protect SBF and Caro. It will all be chalked up to lack of regulation and caveat emptor.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:41 PM (Zzbjj)

205 think crypto is weird, look at NFTs. They have people buying stuff that everybody else can get for free.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2022 12:41 PM (8GBH4)

206 And who are a lot of people that likely feel the need to post anonymously online?
Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2022 12:19 PM (aRLgQ)

I find it amazing the number of totally committed social justice warriors post anonymously, and use multiple anonymous accounts to pressure a target.

I would hate to have a blue-check bot net chasing me. Well, not me, I don't do twitter, but it could destroy a business, unverified botnets have already done that.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:42 PM (xhaym)

207 Maybe their Special Prosecutor will be as totally cosmetic as Durham? No, they mean what they say, unlike the Shakespearean Failure Theatre of the GOP
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:39 PM (Zzbjj)

They do not play tick tock games. They are going to leak derogatory info and indict.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 12:42 PM (pwExq)

208 203 Calling it now. Any calls for impeachments or investigations will be met with cries of "But we're better than that!"
Posted by: NR Pax at November 19, 2022 12:40 PM (DiLht)

Honesty and Transparency in Government? It's not who we are.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:42 PM (Zzbjj)

209 As a continuation of my previous point about exchanges; one might view a crypto exchange vs DIY/controlling your own wallet as very similar to owning gold or gold certs on a precious metals exchange, rather than having actual bars stuffed in your closet.

Effects of government regulation on both is also very similar. The feds can't realistically keep you from squirreling away tiny bits of gold here or there, or small crypto wallets, short of physically showing up and digging through your shit.

Posted by: somedood at November 19, 2022 12:42 PM (qVRSW)

210 If you make a credit card purchase or write a check to cash, the information of the purchase goes to the credit card company or bank, which can take a week to complete, with the cost of about 3% to 5% of the purchase to fund the transfer. The CC pays the vendor out of their own funds, until the transfer is completed - this is why it is possible to have charge backs by the way.
The only way banks are more traceable is because the regulators can force the banks to take the position and spread 'em on a whim.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:27 PM

Our credit card processing vendor who takes 2.9% of the total sale we charge told me that when we upgraded to a chip enabled card reader we would no longer be subject to charge backs if our bartenders ran all chips cards through their reader. They lied.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2022 12:43 PM (uNylN)

211 185 House should not impeach Garland according to a few on this thread. Noted. Thank you for your opinion.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:34 PM (V13WU)

He should get a neck stretching. Along with a great many of his cohorts.

Posted by: Are we not men? at November 19, 2022 12:43 PM (pLSJi)

212 198 I should have stocked up. They still have the bloom on them and I have a cool place in the apartment.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 19, 2022 12:43 PM (lz5hY)

213 I have a strong suspicion that nobody understands how crypto works...

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:44 PM (V13WU)

214 201 Crypto has a shared ledger that tracks each "coin" back to its "mining" and every transaction til today, it is indelible on the blockchain. That is how you know it is a real coin and not a random bit of code.
all transfers can be seen and tracked, once the coin is identified, since everyone has a ledger.

The benefit to crypto is that it can be transferred and the debt cleared without involving a bank.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:27 PM (xhaym)

So, whoever (Government) has access to the key of the block chain... which is needed by both buyer and seller so they can ensure its real... will be able to see what transactions it was involved in.

Thus, by tracking coins, which are crossing the net, and breaking into the key, a Government could track every transaction ever made by said coin... a large enough database (like oh, the server farm in Nevada)... could track the underground market.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 12:44 PM (oHd/0)

215 "201 Crypto has a shared ledger that tracks each "coin" back to its "mining" and every transaction til today, it is indelible on the blockchain. That is how you know it is a real coin and not a random bit of code.
all transfers can be seen and tracked, once the coin is identified, since everyone has a ledger.

The benefit to crypto is that it can be transferred and the debt cleared without involving a bank.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:27 PM (xhaym)

Unless I have the skills, knowledge, and resources to independently replicate all that mathematicking, I'm going to have to take it on trust, aren't I?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 12:40 PM (5s54T)"

Not really. Some are designed to be rather private intentially; the rest are fairly open by default. Watching the movement of coins/wallets trying to infer who owns them and what they're doing to get a window into currency movements (like identifying wallets belonging to the major exchanges) is a fairly common activity.

Posted by: somedood at November 19, 2022 12:45 PM (qVRSW)

216 He should get a neck stretching. Along with a great many of his cohorts.
Posted by: Are we not men? at November 19, 2022 12:43 PM (pLSJi)

Hillary seemed to imply that half of DC was corrupt and criminal. I suspect the percentage is higher now.

I'd like to see them all in prison

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:45 PM (Zzbjj)

217 194 "Yesterday, in the car, I heard part of a radio program with guests from a start-up crypto company out of Fresno featuring "decentralized control". Interesting concept, and they promised that it bypasses all of the problems that beset FTX. Local exchanges of goods and services are emphasized.

With an undertone of desperation, I think. Though they are trying not to sound TOO worried. I think they could be wiped out, though. By the government behemoth."

I think you're mis-undertanding this. Most crypto is decentralized by default...

SNIP

Posted by: somedood at November 19, 2022 12:37 PM (qVRSW)

This is true, but the crypto financiers are sweating right now. Tim Draper, for instance, has been yelling from the rooftops about decentralization being the key to crypto. He really, really doesn't want the government to crack down on this. Most of his wealth right now is tied up in it, by his admission.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 19, 2022 12:46 PM (5jGJ9)

218 My approach to life is, keep it simple. Crypto is nothing but a complicated mess. No way am I going to get caught up in that scam.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 19, 2022 12:46 PM (BdMk6)

219 Buzzion, I find Peterson's discussions on people and why they do what they do to be fascinating, and when I was doing public contact work I found the insight to be very useful.

I think politically he is still a university elite, liberal weenie who would fall in line with his persecutors if he could square it with his principles. So I honor him for his insights and his principles, and ignore his politics

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:46 PM (xhaym)

220 Have you seen Alex Jones' response to Elon not allowing him back on Twitter?

Genius.

Jones says that Musk needs to spend his time getting in control of Twitter before he bothers with restoring his account. Then pitches the alt-economy and tells people to go there. And reiterates that Musk needs to get in control of Twitter first.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 12:47 PM (pwExq)

221 "Total spent on midterm elections 16,700,000,000
8,000,000 spent by Brinkmann
Does anyone think that was significant?"

Why yes. Yes I do.

Much of the total was, by definition, spent in relatively less competitive and less important races. If you spend several million dollars in the key, contested races (particularly in close Senate elections) then yes, you can be incredibly significant. Sort of how five key (corrupt) city election machines in five swing states could be "significant" to a national election.

Posted by: Death by Unga Bunga at November 19, 2022 12:48 PM (GVdNr)

222 Emotion and herd behavior rule the day. We really are all Devo.
Posted by: Are we not men? at November 19, 2022 12:35 PM (pLSJi)

When was it not so? Even that old Tory Dr. Johnson noted that among the people (the rabble as he calls them) "opinions are not propagated by reason, but caught by contagion".

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 19, 2022 12:48 PM (yQpMk)

223 A Special Prosecutor with a portfolio of Republicans sounds sketchy. However the GOP needs to feel the boot too. They've been cozying up to the Democrats far too long and it's about time they get a taste of the heel.

Might wake a few of them up.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2022 12:48 PM (Q4IgG)

224 think crypto is weird, look at NFTs. They have people buying stuff that everybody else can get for free.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2022 12:41 PM (8GBH4)

There was word that some of the folks who heard FTX was about to collapse, were able to trade their crypto for NFTs. Things that were close to worthless, suddenly were worth millions, and the trade would go something like 10 million dollar sale, nine for me, and one million for you, the holder of that previously worthless NFT.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 12:49 PM (XfBY/)

225 She adds, "parental income and education are the most powerful predictors of whether a three-year-old will end up in the boardroom or in prison..."

Morality has nothing to do with income or education. Moral people are taught to be moral by their families. Poor people are not inherently stupid and immoral. Also, a lot of people who are in boardrooms belong in prison. Her son is a prime example.

Posted by: huerfano at November 19, 2022 12:49 PM (dTFZY)

226 /crud, off timekeeping sock

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 19, 2022 12:49 PM (u+/Fy)

227 The government certainly doesn't want crypto to go away.
See whitehouse dot gov, September 16, 2022 - Fact Sheet: White House Releases First-Ever Comprehensive Framework for Responsible Development of Digital Assets (Briefing room, Statements and Releases)

How very convenient! Read it and see the fairly wishy-washy list and agency assignments to create "steps to foster responsible digital asset innovation."

And while I don't understand it at all, since it can be purchased and used at a local gas station, I'll not put a nickel into it as I suspect it allows certain groups to build wealth, while sucking up the investments & earnings of others and/or certain individuals.
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Cause and effect. That intersectionalism for some individuals is complete nonsense. Even most pets know they are wrong doing their business in unapproved areas.

Posted by: Lola at November 19, 2022 12:49 PM (NIYa7)

228 "So, whoever (Government) has access to the key of the block chain... which is needed by both buyer and seller so they can ensure its real... will be able to see what transactions it was involved in.

Thus, by tracking coins...
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 12:44 PM (oHd/0)"

This is not really all that accurate. Crypto != "internet money" The transactions don't have to involve the internet, although they're not going to ultimately be able to hide the ledger (or important info you can gain from it) unless the currency is specifically designed for additional privacy. This is why you have hundreds of millions of stolen Bitcoin, etc, still unrecovered; it's in a limbo similar to cash that needs laundered, except to launder it you need to either find a bag holder before the theft is known or find one later that is exceptionally dumb. It's not clear yet how successful the feds can be at declaring blocks of crypto to be tainted funds; they've tried.

Posted by: somedood at November 19, 2022 12:51 PM (qVRSW)

229 227. I understand "Uncle" Gary Gensler is helping draft legislation to keep the kids out of jail and the cryptocon going

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:52 PM (Zzbjj)

230 TCM is playing a Doris Day movie "I'll See You In My Dreams" at the moment. Just before the movie started the presenter WARNED the audience that the movie contains a scene in which Doris performs in blackface.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2022 12:52 PM (63Dwl)

231 Crypto Kitties...let that sink in. Virtual cats.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:52 PM (V13WU)

232 Boring. Divisive. Retro. Unwanted. Zero

but enough about me

Posted by: Jerry Rivers at November 19, 2022 12:52 PM (us2H3)

233 Also, a lot of people who are in boardrooms belong in prison. Her son is a prime example.
Posted by: huerfano at November 19, 2022 12:49 PM (dTFZY)

Money and professor parents will keep you out of jail is the message here

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:53 PM (Zzbjj)

234 Any investigation into crypto abuse will go stale before anything hits the courts. Too many people of importance, real or imagined, involved. What I would like to see is an investigation into class action suits, be it talcum powder or lousy drinking water. Billions awarded in some cases, but how much to the plaintiff?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 19, 2022 12:53 PM (lz5hY)

235 231 Crypto Kitties...let that sink in. Virtual cats.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:52 PM (V13WU)

WEF also advocates virtual children.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:54 PM (Zzbjj)

236 The CC pays the vendor out of their own funds, until the transfer is completed - this is why it is possible to have charge backs by the way.
The only way banks are more traceable is because the regulators can force the banks to take the position and spread 'em on a whim.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:27 PM

Now... go look at who actually owns those Credit card companies? Visa? Bank of America, half of the stock in an IPO, bought by... other banks.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 12:54 PM (oHd/0)

237 223 A Special Prosecutor with a portfolio of Republicans sounds sketchy. However the GOP needs to feel the boot too. They've been cozying up to the Democrats far too long and it's about time they get a taste of the heel.

Might wake a few of them up.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 19, 2022 12:48 PM (Q4IgG)

Those aren't the Republicans who are the targets.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 12:54 PM (pwExq)

238 219 Buzzion, I find Peterson's discussions on people and why they do what they do to be fascinating, and when I was doing public contact work I found the insight to be very useful.

I think politically he is still a university elite, liberal weenie who would fall in line with his persecutors if he could square it with his principles. So I honor him for his insights and his principles, and ignore his politics
Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:46 PM (xhaym)

Well I didn't say to fuck him for his efforts to help people. I'm fine with that. I said fuck him for his call to censor and block people that are anonymous. Because that is never the only step. Next it becomes banning them. And then it becomes that you cannot have any sort of anonymity on the net period.

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2022 12:55 PM (aRLgQ)

239 So Holmes gets 11 yrs for fraud.

The leftwing atty in NYC that firebombed a police car during riots gets

1 yr 3 months.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at November 19, 2022 12:55 PM (Pi2Vs)

240 How should we think about Smith's level of moral responsibility?" She adds, "parental income and education are the most powerful predictors of whether a three-year-old will end up in the boardroom or in prison..."
************

OK, then explain the Kennedys. "shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves, in three generations."

Posted by: Noam Sayen at November 19, 2022 12:56 PM (Wn+Cb)

241 "This is true, but the crypto financiers are sweating right now. Tim Draper, for instance, has been yelling from the rooftops about decentralization being the key to crypto. He really, really doesn't want the government to crack down on this. Most of his wealth right now is tied up in it, by his admission.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 19, 2022 12:46 PM (5jGJ9)"

Governments continuing to allow centralized exchanges is pretty central to a lot of peoples' ability to continue raking in money, as well as to keep the value they currently own.

I think we are still at the point where crypto is more useful as a medium of exchange than as a store of wealth. Too many speculators and too much hostile government action. I'd rather store shiny metal (and I do - enough to relocate and live a few years anywhere in the world). I also keep dollars but with the understanding they could evaporate next week - and don't have leftover wealth to dick around with crypto.

Posted by: somedood at November 19, 2022 12:56 PM (qVRSW)

242 Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 19, 2022 12:53 PM (lz5hY)

I don't care if Tom Brady gets his money back, I want them in prison and their complicit parents. Strong likelihood that Glenn Ellison and Joe Bankman are involved. Joe was raising funds before the collapse.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:56 PM (Zzbjj)

243 Thought I was about to leave work and find I have a flst

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 19, 2022 12:56 PM (hRKpF)

244 239 So Holmes gets 11 yrs for fraud.

The leftwing atty in NYC that firebombed a police car during riots gets

1 yr 3 months.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at November 19, 2022 12:55 PM (Pi2Vs)

Holmes victims were the monied class. She defrauded institutional investors... ie Wallstreet itself..... ie... the Elite.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 12:57 PM (oHd/0)

245 Unless I have the skills, knowledge, and resources to independently replicate all that mathematicking, I'm going to have to take it on trust, aren't I?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 12:40 PM (5s54T)

There is a book out called The Bitcoin Standard by Saifadean Ammous which is supposed to be the best economic analysis of crypto.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:57 PM (xhaym)

246 >>> His ninesome lifestyle is just tabloid fluff.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2022 11:31 AM (NWBBy)

You got me. At first I thought oh an old archaic term I've never heard of before! So I tried looking it up but couldn't find anything. Still I kept scrolling down to, theesome foursome..., ah ok I get it now.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 19, 2022 12:58 PM (0fVbu)

247 12.4 million votes in the Musk poll asking YES/NO to President Trump reinstated to Twitter.

52.3% YES - 47.7% NO.

http://bit.ly/3USmKCa

QUESTION: With 116.6 million followers, your polls are starting to become statistically significant. What if Twitter had an "All Users" poll that you could push to every single twitter account to find out what the entire network is thinking, with no particular adverse selection?

MUSK: When polls are about a significant question, even those who don't follow me tend to hear about it. That said, I agree with the idea of an all-user poll. Should also be an all-user by country poll.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 19, 2022 12:58 PM (Do5/p)

248 Dear Aloe Blacc

I'm so sorry they did that to your song.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 19, 2022 12:58 PM (YJwUM)

249 The latest Special Prosecutor is yet another Bill of Attainder, by yet another name.

But due to the Endumbening does this even resonate with the public any more?

Posted by: Death by Unga Bunga at November 19, 2022 12:59 PM (GVdNr)

250 Posted by: somedood at November 19, 2022 12:56 PM (qVRSW)

Money has not been a way to 'store' wealth for a generation. Once % of interest was lower than BUILT IN inflation... it does not story wealth, but looses it.

Once banks did not need YOUR account balance, to fund their fractional Lending, they had no need give you a good interest rate, and thus the old idea of a savings account was history.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 01:00 PM (oHd/0)

251 QUESTION: With 116.6 million followers, your polls are starting to become statistically significant. What if Twitter had an "All Users" poll that you could push to every single twitter account to find out what the entire network is thinking, with no particular adverse selection?

MUSK: When polls are about a significant question, even those who don't follow me tend to hear about it. That said, I agree with the idea of an all-user poll. Should also be an all-user by country poll.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 19, 2022 12:58 PM (Do5/p)

Only once Bots are gone...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 01:02 PM (oHd/0)

252 235 231 Crypto Kitties...let that sink in. Virtual cats.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2022 12:52 PM (V13WU)

WEF also advocates virtual children.
Posted by: CN

You know, a few years ago, I would have chuckled at this. Funneh! Now? WEF and the UN have me longing for the benevolent grace of Dr. No. They're a bunch of evil lunatics drunk on there own virtue so this is very plausible now.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2022 01:02 PM (ifUkZ)

253 I think one of the targets of the the Special Counsel will be Matt Gaetz. He’s been victorious on everything thrown at him in FL-1: a supposedly hero former military opponent, an FBI investigation, and nothing makes him less popular w his constituency. Being able to try him in DC for bogus J6 charges and imprison him would finally do the trick. Who knows? The noisy Congress folks the D’s hate might be the actual target of this, not PDT; he’s just a bonus.

Posted by: EveR at November 19, 2022 01:02 PM (ZRoxk)

254 I dropped by the Fiesta Mart this morning, a local Mexican themed supermercado that was convenient. I knid of like it, reminds me of grocery stores when i was a kid, before everything got so frou-frou. They have this big votive for candle section, very Catholic, and i always walk because sometimes there's some really bizarre stuff.

Found the best one ever this morning, had to buy it, I'm it's intended as a focus of sincere prayer. Has this scene of a policeman and a guy behind bars and the caption, in bold letters, LAW STAY AWAY!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2022 01:02 PM (F2blH)

255 >>> Well I didn't say to fuck him for his efforts to help people. I'm fine with that. I said fuck him for his call to censor and block people that are anonymous. Because that is never the only step. Next it becomes banning them. And then it becomes that you cannot have any sort of anonymity on the net period.
Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2022 12:55 PM (aRLgQ)

Vox Day wrote a whole book against JP if you're interested. I haven't read it. Vox can be a bit contrarian and intense. I'm only familiar with his fiction which I enjoy alot.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 19, 2022 01:03 PM (0fVbu)

256 Garlands SC will jail as many House Rs as needed to flip control.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at November 19, 2022 01:04 PM (Pi2Vs)

257 At least wish me luck I can replace it on a timely fashion

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 19, 2022 01:04 PM (hRKpF)

258
Holmes victims were the monied class. She defrauded institutional investors... ie Wallstreet itself..... ie... the Elite.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 12:57 PM (oHd/0)

___________

Her crime was making them look like gullible idiots.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2022 01:05 PM (rseWl)

259 253 I think one of the targets of the the Special Counsel will be Matt Gaetz. He’s been victorious on everything thrown at him in FL-1: a supposedly hero former military opponent, an FBI investigation, and nothing makes him less popular w his constituency. Being able to try him in DC for bogus J6 charges and imprison him would finally do the trick. Who knows? The noisy Congress folks the D’s hate might be the actual target of this, not PDT; he’s just a bonus.
Posted by: EveR at November 19, 2022 01:02 PM (ZRoxk)

Count the whole of the Freedom Caucus in.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 01:05 PM (pwExq)

260 You know, a few years ago, I would have chuckled at this. Funneh! Now? WEF and the UN have me longing for the benevolent grace of Dr. No. They're a bunch of evil lunatics drunk on there own virtue so this is very plausible now.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2022 01:02 PM (ifUkZ)

They're drunk on money and power, virtue is only an illusion here. The fucking "planet" is a cover for more and more control.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 01:05 PM (Zzbjj)

261 256 Garlands SC will jail as many House Rs as needed to flip control.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at November 19, 2022 01:04 PM (Pi2Vs)

That number is, what, 7?

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 01:06 PM (pwExq)

262 Thus, by tracking coins, which are crossing the net, and breaking into the key, a Government could track every transaction ever made by said coin... a large enough database (like oh, the server farm in Nevada)... could track the underground market.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 12:44 PM (oHd/0)

Once again, this is already done to commercial banking and credit card purchases. The fact that Congress is floating the idea of tracking $600 and above transactions indicates that they are already doing so.

the benefit is that you can't be unbanked like Alex Jones

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 01:06 PM (xhaym)

263 Oh, and I check the bank account. My bank went on the two day early deposit kick. My social security, due on Wednesday, is there today due to the bank's posting rules. Can't tell me they're cruising for overdraft fees at $35 a pop. "These geezers are bound to make a mistake".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 19, 2022 01:06 PM (lz5hY)

264 **Depriving students of greatness.**

Thanks, new math.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at November 19, 2022 01:07 PM (x00Ds)

265 the benefit is that you can't be unbanked like Alex Jones
Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 01:06 PM (xhaym)

Going to be hard to pay a billion and a half dollars without a bank...

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 01:07 PM (pwExq)

266 It appears Dem, Inc. is working overtime to turn FTX into a Republican problem child.

Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2022 01:07 PM (6eRlp)

267 She adds, "parental income and education are the most powerful predictors of whether a three-year-old will end up in the boardroom or in prison..."
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SBF apparently embraced the power of "and"

Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2022 01:08 PM (kOpft)

268 266 It appears Dem, Inc. is working overtime to turn FTX into a Republican problem child.
Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2022 01:07 PM (6eRlp)

They can try, but Gensler if a total dem and are the Ellison and Bankman Fried tribes.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 01:08 PM (Zzbjj)

269 McCarthy will not do more than gnaw around the edges and make a loud noise
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:38 PM (Zzbjj)

Concur.

Posted by: Trey Gowdy, Nothing Burger King at November 19, 2022 01:09 PM (R/m4+)

270 is, not if. And Gensler gave FTX favorable status.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 01:10 PM (Zzbjj)

271 McCarthy will not do more than gnaw around the edges and make a loud noise
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:38 PM (Zzbjj)

Pretty bold assertion there. He'll barely nibble, and squeak like a church mouse.

Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2022 01:11 PM (aRLgQ)

272 Back in the day Hillary's finance guy, Gensler, now head of the SEC, allegedly moved the millions that paid for the Russian Collusion game.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 01:11 PM (Zzbjj)

273 When was it not so? Even that old Tory Dr. Johnson noted that among the people (the rabble as he calls them) "opinions are not propagated by reason, but caught by contagion".
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 19, 2022 12:48 PM (yQpMk)

"high animal spirits" as an economic analysis is about as useful as it would have been for Isaac Newton to have concluded that "things fall because it is in their nature to fall, no further conclusions can be drawn"

Most extreme economic choices are made out of high hopes or under great economic stress.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 01:12 PM (xhaym)

274 Pretty bold assertion there. He'll barely nibble, and squeak like a church mouse.
Posted by: buzzion at November 19, 2022 01:11 PM (aRLgQ)

I stand by the noise part, he'll sprint to the cameras and act as if he has achieved greatness.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 01:13 PM (Zzbjj)

275 The single best predictor of whether you'll have basic success (graduate HS, have a job) is whether or not your parents were married when you were born. More predictive than race.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2022 01:13 PM (SJsWC)

276 Gizmodo:

"A Broken Twitter Means Broken Disaster Response

The loss of this crucial rapid-response platform could be crippling as climate change makes disasters worse."
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LOL 😂

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 19, 2022 01:14 PM (YJwUM)

277
When was it not so? Even that old Tory Dr. Johnson noted that among the people (the rabble as he calls them) "opinions are not propagated by reason, but caught by contagion".
Posted by: G'rump928
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I tremendously admire Dr. Johnson.

As an aside, regarding the above, The MSM = Superspreader.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2022 01:15 PM (gUQwJ)

278 One thing I should stop doing is calling SBF and Caro "kids", they're 30yo adults, and must be treated accordingly even if their parents paid for the amphetamines and start up cash.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 01:15 PM (Zzbjj)

279

A bank in Canada has become the first in the country to launch a credit card that tracks a customer’s carbon emissions, amid concerns that such a scheme could one day be used to restrict purchases.

In an effort by the credit union to display its commitment to ‘climate action’, Vancity will offer a credit card that links purchases to carbon emissions, allowing customers to compare their monthly carbon footprint to the national average.

The bank will also advise customers on how to limit their carbon footprint.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2022 01:15 PM (63Dwl)

280 279. May they go very broke very soon

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 01:16 PM (Zzbjj)

281 Department of Justice, Office of Public Affairs
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE, Friday, November 18, 2022

In part, "Appointment of a Special Counsel Special Counsel Smith has resigned as the chief prosecutor for the special court in The Hague charged with investigating and adjudicating war crimes in Kosovo."

I think it's interesting the U. S. is not a State Party to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (Rome Statute) which founded the International Criminal Court in 2002.

Former President Cliniton said he would not submit it to the Senate for advice & consent for ratification until the
U. S. had the opportunity to assess its functioning.

Once the statute reached the requisite ratifications in 2002, Former President Bush (W) then informed the UN Secretary General the U.S. didn't intend to ratify & recognized no obligation to it.

Criticism and support of the ICC through those administrations (Clinton, W, Obama, Trump) AND through the present (Biden) is interesting.

Posted by: Lola at November 19, 2022 01:16 PM (NIYa7)

282 266 It appears Dem, Inc. is working overtime to turn FTX into a Republican problem child.
Posted by: mrp

Except that under every rock and in every crevice, they just find another Democrat. Bless there hearts.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 19, 2022 01:16 PM (ifUkZ)

283 At least wish me luck I can replace it on a timely fashion
Posted by: Skip's phone

Good luck Skip !

Posted by: JT at November 19, 2022 01:17 PM (T4tVD)

284 "250 Posted by: somedood at November 19, 2022 12:56 PM (qVRSW)

Money has not been a way to 'store' wealth for a generation. Once % of interest was lower than BUILT IN inflation... it does not story wealth, but looses it.

Once banks did not need YOUR account balance, to fund their fractional Lending, they had no need give you a good interest rate, and thus the old idea of a savings account was history.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 01:00 PM (oHd/0)"

I know this; most people do it anyways. How many people do you know that actually do anything other than sit on a pile of USD and some stocks/401k stuff?

I sit on a big pile of USD simply because I'm going to be needing a big pile of USD shortly, after which I'll be sitting on less. But damn near nobody in the middle or upper-middle classes actually thinks about storing wealth long-term.

One of the core goals of most cryptos is that they can't be arbitrarily inflated away.

Posted by: somedood at November 19, 2022 01:18 PM (qVRSW)

285 The bank will also advise customers on how to limit their carbon footprint.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2022 01:15 PM (63Dwl)

Not the way to do it. Send me money and for every ten thousand in cash I will issue you an AlGore Carbon Credit which you can then redeem in FTX cryptocurrency and use all the carbon you and your lifestyle is used to.

Act now as I can't do this all day...are you getting this camera guy? Release my chakra!

Posted by: Al Gore, Rapist Climate Warrior at November 19, 2022 01:19 PM (R/m4+)

286 It appears Dem, Inc. is working overtime to turn FTX into a Republican problem child.

Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2022 01:07 PM

Thirty-eight million to dems is greater than 2.2 million to repubs, but math is hard and people are stupid. Thankfully.

Posted by: Maxine Waters at November 19, 2022 01:20 PM (dTFZY)

287 There is a book out called The Bitcoin Standard by Saifadean Ammous which is supposed to be the best economic analysis of crypto.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 12:57 PM (xhaym)

Thanks for the tip.

Posted by: flounder at November 19, 2022 01:20 PM (1IjJM)

288 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 19, 2022 01:20 PM (T4tVD)

289 "One of the core goals of most cryptos is that they can't be arbitrarily inflated away."

Why not just use gold.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2022 01:21 PM (SJsWC)

290 Skip, here's hoping you get your flst fixed!
(Sorry, I couldn't resist...)

Posted by: gourmand du jour, clear and cool at November 19, 2022 01:22 PM (jTmQV)

291 A Broken Twitter Means Broken Disaster Response

Remember when the reason we paid all those taxes was for security and safety? Good times, those.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2022 01:22 PM (xhaym)

292 The law seems to be doing a pretty good job of staying away all on its own, without any imprecations and prayers.

But yes, it is a darkly amusing sort of votive candle.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2022 01:23 PM (ffjiB)

293 20 minutes not bad on my way

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 19, 2022 01:27 PM (hRKpF)

294 " Send me money and for every ten thousand in cash I will issue you an AlGore Carbon Credit which you can then redeem in FTX cryptocurrency and use all the carbon you and your lifestyle is used to."

right ... I have some woods I am not burning/bulldozing ... when/where do I collect my carbon credit check?

Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2022 01:27 PM (Cus5s)

295 Skip, here's hoping you get your flst fixed!
(Sorry, I couldn't resist...)
Posted by: gourmand
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I see commercials on late night TV for supplements that claim to take care of that. Seem to be made from the extracts of exotic New Zealand pond scum.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2022 01:29 PM (uUKp3)

296 MUSK: When polls are about a significant question, even those who don't follow me tend to hear about it. That said, I agree with the idea of an all-user poll. Should also be an all-user by country poll.
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It seems somewhat noteworthy to me that yesterday, before there was much time to retweet the poll, Trump was much farther ahead. Which suggests something about Musk's followers.

Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2022 01:33 PM (kOpft)

297 It seems somewhat noteworthy to me that yesterday, before there was much time to retweet the poll, Trump was much farther ahead. Which suggests something about Musk's followers.
Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2022 01:33 PM (kOpft)

It takes a little time to redirect bots.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 01:34 PM (oHd/0)

298 right ... I have some woods I am not burning/bulldozing ... when/where do I collect my carbon credit check?
Posted by: illiniwek
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I was looking at a proposal for the installation of solar panels at a local charity office. What caught my eye was an entry, 'Trees Saved: 8,000'.
WTF?

Turns out, there are 'Calculators' out there that can magically convert Kw to trees. Who knew?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2022 01:35 PM (gUQwJ)

299 nood

plants

Posted by: banana Dream at November 19, 2022 01:36 PM (I8nLU)

300 Know a place to get tire fixed, hope it's open

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 19, 2022 01:37 PM (hRKpF)

301 Also, a lot of people who are in boardrooms belong in prison. Her son is a prime example.
Posted by: huerfano at November 19, 2022 12:49 PM (dTFZY)

Money and professor parents will keep you out of jail is the message here
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 12:53 PM (Zzbjj)

Being connected to the Democrat Party is what limits your prison exposure.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 19, 2022 01:38 PM (yQpMk)

302 If people have no free will then those trying to hold them responsible for bad actions are merely following their own bioelectrical evolutionary programming so why interfere with that? It is as inevitable as the offense supposedly was. There is no agency or moral structure to adhere to, just a script indexed to some perceived stimuli and executed without reason or sentience.

Posted by: EM at November 19, 2022 01:38 PM (194HV)

303 Posted by: Lola at November 19, 2022 01:16 PM (NIYa7)

Interesting they chose a guy whose expertise is 'International Law' (an oxymoron) to lead this.

As this is extremely involved in Constitutional Questions, wouldn't an expert on the Constitution be a better choice?

Unless, like Mueller, the result is already dictated.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 01:39 PM (oHd/0)

304 279. May they go very broke very soon

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2022 01:16 PM (Zzbjj)

Probably Willowed, but Vancity is a credit union, not a bank. Agree they should fail for this stunt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2022 01:39 PM (2pgMG)

305 Being connected to the Democrat Party is what limits your prison exposure.
Posted by: G'rump928
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Well, it certainly limited mine.

Posted by: Jeffery Epstein at November 19, 2022 01:40 PM (gUQwJ)

306 I was looking at a proposal for the installation of solar panels at a local charity office. What caught my eye was an entry, 'Trees Saved: 8,000'.
WTF?

Turns out, there are 'Calculators' out there that can magically convert Kw to trees. Who knew?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2022 01:35 PM (gUQwJ)

Interesting, in order to use Trees as a unit of measure, is there now a standard Tree? What size? how many board feet? Hardwood or Softwood? Evergreen?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 01:41 PM (oHd/0)

307
Interesting, in order to use Trees as a unit of measure, is there now a standard Tree? What size? how many board feet? Hardwood or Softwood? Evergreen?
Posted by: Romeo13
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Yes. They actually rationalize density, height, type, etc.
I was so...surprised by it that I didn't delve too deeply.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2022 01:44 PM (WTJmT)

308 There is no agency or moral structure to adhere to, just a script indexed to some perceived stimuli and executed without reason or sentience.
Posted by: EM at November 19, 2022 01:38 PM (194HV)

Free will can overcome the programing IMO... but... unless you KNOW that programing is there? Yes... you will probably act on it.

Training can also overcome programming, as the military has known for thousands of years... so when you are surprised, and your normal biologic programing would take over, your training does instead.

Other problem is though... and I have this in my own life, when your training contradicts your base programming, it creates friction in your 'operating system'... which shows up as either stress, or unhappiness.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 01:45 PM (oHd/0)

309 Garlands SC will jail as many House Rs as needed to flip control.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at November 19, 2022 01:04 PM (Pi2Vs)

Luckily Pelosi instituted proxy voting so they can still vote from their jail cells, or rather, McCarthy can vote for them.

Oh wait ...

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 19, 2022 01:45 PM (yQpMk)

310 Interesting, in order to use Trees as a unit of measure, is there now a standard Tree? What size? how many board feet? Hardwood or Softwood? Evergreen?
Posted by: Romeo13
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Their operative word, of course, is 'Saved'. That is never quite explained.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2022 01:45 PM (WTJmT)

311 Lumpy ran for Lt Governor just to unleash the prisons onto the citizens

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 19, 2022 01:46 PM (hRKpF)

312 That was a really good twitter thread on trans

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 19, 2022 01:48 PM (5rBf5)

313 311 Lumpy ran for Lt Governor just to unleash the prisons onto the citizens
Posted by: Skip's phone at November 19, 2022 01:46 PM (hRKpF)

Give the people what they want

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2022 01:49 PM (pwExq)

314
Interesting, in order to use Trees as a unit of measure, is there now a standard Tree? What size? how many board feet? Hardwood or Softwood? Evergreen?
Posted by: Romeo13
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Their operative word, of course, is 'Saved'. That is never quite explained.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Just like jobs "saved or created"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2022 01:54 PM (63Dwl)

315 12.4 million votes in the Musk poll asking YES/NO to President Trump reinstated to Twitter.

52.3% YES - 47.7% NO.

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Donkey Chompers is worried.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez@AOC
Idk man, last time he was here this platform was used to incite an insurrection, multiple people died, the Vice President of the United States was nearly assassinated, and hundreds were injured but I guess that’s not enough for you to answer the question.

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Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... MASS HYSTERIA!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 19, 2022 01:56 PM (FVME7)

316 Here's some neat pictures of Snowmaggedon in Buffalo:

https://tinyurl.com/y5y7f3fs

https://tinyurl.com/mr85wxzm

All is well here in North Buffalo, but 5 miles south is what those pictures are: 70 inches since Thursday night, and more on the way.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 19, 2022 02:02 PM (CCSxw)

317 I've lived in the lake effect area near Buffalo and the snow situation is hellish for endless months of darkness.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2022 02:05 PM (EZebt)

318 "Their operative word, of course, is 'Saved'. That is never quite explained." Posted by: Mike Hammer

Right, and unless they give them eternal life, they will die in time. They will burn or rot in due time, even if used for building. Trees are a renewable resource.

But more CO2 has supported more green stuff globally ... a conundrum for those that think CO2 is killing us all.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2022 02:08 PM (Cus5s)

319 Closed at 1, guess will have to wait until Monday, home at least

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 19, 2022 02:15 PM (hRKpF)

320 331. Penn Live: Kim Kardashian visits Harrisburg to hang out with her friend, Pa.'s second lady, Updated: Jul. 25, 2019, 11:34 a.m.

The plan might be that Mrs. F breaks a barrier like Debbie Dingell did in Congress. (When Dingell was sworn in, she became the first U.S. non-widowed woman in Congress to succeed her husband. ) And it could be all the more juicer because Mrs. Fetterman entered the U.S. illegally as a child with her alleged PhD mother and young brother.

Another barrier that could be challenged might be Constitutional, too, in the not so distant future.

Posted by: Lola at November 19, 2022 02:20 PM (NIYa7)

321 Sorry, Skip. Meant 311.

Posted by: Lola at November 19, 2022 02:21 PM (NIYa7)

322 The picture of the people with Musk in the Twitter code review shows two women who look Asian or Indian, so I guess all the women employees weren't AWFL blue haired social justice warriors who did nothing but stifle free speech unless these women are saboteurs.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2022 02:27 PM (vH/6k)

323 Once home checked all tires for air pressure I like and filled the one that was flat, couldn't see any reason it was flat catastrophic as going to work had no tire pressure warning.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2022 02:37 PM (xhxe8)

324 152 A solid sign of endumbing to me has been to total ineptitude of any large project undertaken in this country in the past 25 years.

Yesterday I was musing and realized that there is the same amount of time between the P-26 Peashooter and the F-15 Eagle as there is between the F-15 Eagle and right now. Everything except computer stuff has stalled or gotten worse in the last 50 years.

Posted by: azjaeger at November 19, 2022 02:42 PM (3/XaG)

325 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez@AOC
Idk man, last time he was here this platform was used to incite an insurrection, multiple people died, the Vice President of the United States was nearly assassinated, and hundreds were injured but I guess that’s not enough for you to answer the question.

Not really "the last time Trump was on Twitter", Sandy, more like " the last time the uniparty stole a presidential election"

Posted by: azjaeger at November 19, 2022 02:44 PM (3/XaG)

326 Lumpy is I am certain a Marxist, he wants to unload prisons, is a BLM backer, he will vote to shut down fossil fuels I would bet. I do plan to keep track of what he votes for

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2022 02:52 PM (xhxe8)

327 Huh, Twitter seems to be working just fine.

Leftists lied. Go figure.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2022 03:02 PM (ZLI7S)

328 There is no agency or moral structure to adhere to, just a script indexed to some perceived stimuli and executed without reason or sentience.
Posted by: EM at November 19, 2022 01:38 PM (194HV)

Progressives believe they are nothing more than a clump of cells and behave accordingly.

Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2022 03:10 PM (kOpft)

329 She describes a guy growing up in bad circumstances, and asks if he should be held responsible for his crimes...
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Classic Marxist perspective: blame society, not the criminal.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2022 03:11 PM (A68IW)

330 PET NOOD IF STIIL LURKING HERE

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2022 03:36 PM (xhxe8)

331 Leftist are sad to see their mouthpiece silenced

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2022 03:37 PM (xhxe8)

332 322 The picture of the people with Musk in the Twitter code review shows two women who look Asian or Indian, so I guess all the women employees weren't AWFL blue haired social justice warriors who did nothing but stifle free speech unless these women are saboteurs.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2022 02:27 PM (vH/6k)

Almost all Asian countries, and India, have no respect for Freedom of Speech. Most are very controlled societies, with very strict social sturctures.

One of the reasons Big Tech has gone 'Left'... most of the CEOs now were not raised by families who were culturally American.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 03:42 PM (oHd/0)

333 Almost all Asian countries, and India, have no respect for Freedom of Speech. Most are very controlled societies, with very strict social sturctures.

One of the reasons Big Tech has gone 'Left'... most of the CEOs now were not raised by families who were culturally American.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 03:42 PM (oHd/0)

Great point, and it seems that Indians from higher "castes' have a particular problem understanding--or respecting--the concept of "freedom of speech."
The guy who owns the gas station or 7-11 down the street might get it, but the elites don't

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2022 04:07 PM (mR6Gs)

334 Great point, and it seems that Indians from higher "castes' have a particular problem understanding--or respecting--the concept of "freedom of speech."
The guy who owns the gas station or 7-11 down the street might get it, but the elites don't
Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2022 04:07 PM (mR6Gs)

Did Medical IT work as a contractor for a few years... meeting ANY new client, we had to be careful of what culture they were from... If Indian or Pakistani? First Meet HAD TO BE WEARING A NICE SUIT. Otherwise, they would treat you like crap for the entire contract.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2022 04:30 PM (oHd/0)

335 About that crypto "thing". If you happen to be like me and don't know jack about crypto I'd highly suggest that you start boning up but quick. That's what I have been doing obsessively for the past 10 days or so. Why? Because I was ignorant. But, it's fascinating I've found. Also, as you start the journey keep an eye open for our own government's plan to go digital with CBDC. (Central Bank Digital Currency.) Absolutely frightening! Suggestion: perhaps there needs to be a weekly Crypto section in the AOSHQ - for morons only of course. Ha!

Posted by: Ring O' Fire at November 19, 2022 05:07 PM (J/pqx)

336 My very real fear was my x would push my kids into this to drive a wedge between me and them and make herself more relevant. She tried to push my son into a gay lifestyle, but that failed. Luckily I'm pretty sure my kids are beyond this. But she's enabling her friend's daughter to trans. It's as messed up as you might think. Trans is the new skinhead, and lonely Karens are using them.

Posted by: Tom at November 19, 2022 08:05 PM (6Rt5L)

337 FTX is the mechanism, or one of them, for laundering US aid money to Ukraine back to the gangsters who sent it.

BOTH Parties are stealing it by the billions, but they used some to help rig elections.

In business, they say you have to spend money to make money. In the Occupation Government, you have to spend some stolen money to steal even more money.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 19, 2022 08:14 PM (Ndje9)

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