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Body-Positive Biological Male Wins "Miss America" Pageant in New Hampshire

I believe this is just a feeder competition for the NH pageant, and if it is a feeder competition, ooh baby, did they get their man.


swimsuitbeauty.jpg

The swimsuit competition was... how best to say?... character-building. I think that's a Body Positive way to say it.

But he scored a 99.8 in the "Stunning" part of the competition and a perfect 100.0 in the "Brave" part. And that's all that really matters in a contest of feminine beauty, isn't it?


"There's nothing more beautiful than self-delusion." -- some Chinese wizard, probably

Posted by: Ace at 02:00 PM




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1 The shame is part of the kink.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 11, 2022 02:00 PM (/0Tm1)

2 YOU MEAN THAT'S NOT AN ACTUAL BEE-YOUTIFUL LADY?

Well, I'm just amazed!

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at November 11, 2022 02:00 PM (oedLL)

3
Foist!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 11, 2022 02:00 PM (n+4am)

4
Damnit.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 11, 2022 02:00 PM (n+4am)

5 Looks like shit

Posted by: MAC V SOG at November 11, 2022 02:00 PM (P4Pk9)

6 Hi ace!

This story is disgusting.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 11, 2022 02:01 PM (Wy1BU)

7 Oh my! Even I might look a tad better than that.

Posted by: Lola at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (NIYa7)

8 That bitch is ugly!

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (yHsuS)

9 Bow down and worship this paragon of beauty, peons!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (YIVH2)

10 Yeah...don't care.

The women standing with the dude are doing this to themselves.

Have fun, chicks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (LvTSG)

11 Dude looks like a fire hydrant in drag.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (Qzn2/)

12 All those little girls around zyt are smiling and understanding this is the New Normal.

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (dCxaZ)

13 They ought to all be scowling, not smiling on in approval. No complaining, ladies. You're right up there nodding along.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (t0OGg)

14 Dang, even by tranny standards that dude is ugly.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (Y5qcH)

15 No fat chicks, uh, dudes

Posted by: NCKate at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (0R0Vd)

16 Hahaha way to turn the knife ACE!... *claps*

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (OLVeZ)

17 Yeah, fat and ugly. Obvious male, but the dang judges voted HIM the winner. So, who's to blame?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (7bRMQ)

18 14 Dang, even by tranny standards that dude is ugly.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (Y5qcH)

==========

Part of the kink.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (LvTSG)

19 Really, why didn't they just slap all the other contestants and kick their dog, too? Why go half-measures?

"Thanks for taking the time to compete, now we'll award first place to some ugly man-shee that just finished up haunting a house in Olde Manchester."

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (oedLL)

20 Talk about elephant jokes…

Yuck.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (atmen)

21
Miss Greater Derry? As in one of Stephen King's small town Maine settings?

Well, he's got the Lovecraftian Innsmouth eldritch horror thing down pat.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (n+4am)

22 Dude looks like a fire hydrant in drag.

On it!!!

Posted by: Dogs at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (eOEVl)

23 It didn't help that "she" ate four of the competitors prior to the swimsuit round.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (Qzn2/)

24 Well we know why Bolduc lost New Hampshire. Live Free or Die has been replaced by Drag Queens or Death.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (CXr4y)

25 There's no rock-bottom to hit, in the game of sarcasti-ball.

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (44ww/)

26 Holy shit. It's Daniel Inouye back from the dead. And It looks like he's been eating good.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (eacmp)

27 He looks like a fat guy in a dress. Because he's a fat guy in a dress.

Posted by: huerfano at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (dTFZY)

28 Who are the judges? This is clearly an example of ruling just to score woke points. This isn't a passable tranny. It's not even an over-the-top female caricature drag queen. It's just a fat dude in a dress. He isn't even trying.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (t0OGg)

29 On the plus side, "she " won't have to get her dick lopped off because nobody's seen it in years.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (Qzn2/)

30 There's yer elephant joke, right there in that picture.

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (v0R5T)

31 Isn't there an age requirement on these things? Miss Portsmouth looks like she's 13.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (t0OGg)

32 I hope CBD doesn't see this. We will get a naked NH pageant winner on an ottoman in the Art thread.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (CXr4y)

33 The actual female who came in second should sue the competition for defrauding her.

Posted by: can of spam at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (7oNMO)

34 Miss Capital Area in the picture on the left has that, "Are you seeing this shit?" look on her face.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (eyxn4)

35 That's it. New Hampshire should be razed, and the rubble made to bounce. Pour le encourager . . .

Posted by: A modest proposal at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (cBaCg)

36 I'm torn. This seems superficial but I don't like seeing another slice of Americana utterly ruined.

No eye candy here. Just eye dung.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (TNyrE)

37 28 Who are the judges?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (t0OGg)

They thought they should show some compassion and maybe later on the guy would grow up a little bit and move on... its worked out great so far.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (OLVeZ)

38 You are a sick fucking ewok bastard whoreson, ace.

For the love of all that is holy I am considering beginning my life as a blind man.

Posted by: Aetius451AD, Doomscroller Emeritus at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (CwQXo)

39 Isn't the dude like 40 too? Don't they have an age range?

Guess he got to hang out in the changing rooms too.


Somebody always has to pay the price for Leftist "morals"

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (eoQWY)

40
Holy shit. It's Daniel Inouye back from the dead. And It looks like he's been eating good.
Posted by: Marcus T


Are you making fun of me again? Assholes.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (n+4am)

41 They're just mocking us now.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (LsEU/)

42 LMAO.

And here I thought Israel Kamakawiwoʻole had died some time ago ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (K3TEc)

43 Who are the judges? This is clearly an example of ruling just to score woke points. This isn't a passable tranny. It's not even an over-the-top female caricature drag queen. It's just a fat dude in a dress. He isn't even trying.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (t0OGg)

It worked, didn't it?

Posted by: Zombie Drag Queen Harry Reid at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (7bRMQ)

44 >>> Live Free or Die has been replaced by Drag Queens or Death.

I saw Drags Queens of Death open for The Neighborhoods at The Rat in 1989.

Posted by: fluffy at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (UqnOO)

45 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (t0OGg)

they'll lose all their IG followers if they do

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (dCxaZ)

46 I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: David French at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (9bp5t)

47 Shit, if that's the way things are going, maybe I should go on the pageant circuit.

I might be old, fat, and ugly, but I'm pretty sure I could still look better than that.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (bW8dp)

48 He looks like a fat guy in a dress. Because he's a fat guy in a dress.
Posted by: huerfano at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (dTFZY)
.......

Early Thread Winner?

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (v0R5T)

49 For the love of all that is holy I am considering beginning my life as a blind man.
Posted by: Aetius451AD, Doomscroller Emeritus at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (CwQXo)

Just identify as blind. Then you don't have to pay taxes.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (Y5qcH)

50 If I was one of those actual females you couldn't pay me enough to be in a photo with that mental case.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (Qzn2/)

51 28 Who are the judges? This is clearly an example of ruling just to score woke points. This isn't a passable tranny. It's not even an over-the-top female caricature drag queen. It's just a fat dude in a dress. He isn't even trying.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
------------------------
He identifies--that is all you know and all ye shall know.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (CXr4y)

52 Every time I look at that picture I think that all those young women who lost to that guy have nothing but useless fathers.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (qH6FZ)

53 Isn't there an age requirement on these things? Miss Portsmouth looks like she's 13.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (t0OGg)

Dude identifies as 12

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (eoQWY)

54 These aren't the bewbies I was looking for...

Posted by: Smart Ass at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (FjlUt)

55 I've also seen a pic showing the moment he was announced as winner. The looks on the girls faces - total happy, ecstatic. This tells me everyone knew the outcome from the start. They had to prepare their acting.

Posted by: Greg61 at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (99YkD)

56 I saw Drags Queens of Death open for The Neighborhoods at The Rat in 1989.
Posted by: fluffy

Heh. Nice one.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (CXr4y)

57 they'll lose all their IG followers if they do
Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (dCxaZ)
++++
Probably. If those IG followers are more important to them than femininity, then so be it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (t0OGg)

58 It looks pregnant... or it likes Natural Light a lot

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (flINI)

59 That's not a biological male. I don't know what that is. Some kind of extraterrestrial, I think.

But you know what? I shant give any shits about this whatsoever. I shant. Those silly girls on stage clapping like trained seals -- and others like them -- did this to themselves.

Besides, beauty pageants long ago ceased to be about beauty and talent. They became pandering and victim-hierarchy contests. So viewed in that light, the fact that a tranny won is not surprising at all.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (iFTx/)

60 Don't sell yourself short, Ace. You are stunning in red.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (/VE9+)

61 Don Ho's Embalmed Corpse.

Which would make a pretty good name for a Hawaiian surfpunk band.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (bW8dp)

62 Greater... yes. You nailed that part. Congrats.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (0fVbu)

63 10 Yeah...don't care.

The women standing with the dude are doing this to themselves.

Have fun, chicks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:02 PM (LvTSG)

Could not agree more. They did this to themselves -just like sports and locker rooms - sorry - we tried to warn you but you called us sexists and bigots and Neanderthals....

Well...suck it up, buttercups!

We have become an unserious and silly people.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (IKI7s)

64 I'll be in my bunk.
Posted by: David French
==
Wow. That's a first. Laugh and Vomit at the same time.

Posted by: thanks buddy at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (cBaCg)

65 I believe this is just a feeder competition for the NH competition, and if it is a feeder competition, ooh baby, did they get their man.
-ACE

Fresh from the stockyards.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (7bRMQ)

66 I use to wonder how a loving God could damn some one to eternal torment. I don't anymore.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (VbI7r)

67 "Miss Greater Derry"
==
Apt

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (2xlV3)

68 55 I've also seen a pic showing the moment he was announced as winner. The looks on the girls faces - total happy, ecstatic. This tells me everyone knew the outcome from the start. They had to prepare their acting.
Posted by: Greg61 at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (99YkD)

===

To be fair, that fake sincerity is drilled into all pageant girls from the time they get their first set of heels.

Posted by: can of spam at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (7oNMO)

69 And their parents went for Maggie Hanson, again.

Child abuse w/o the physical bruises, IMO.

Posted by: Lola at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (NIYa7)

70 Maybe this will end the beauty pageants. Why put your self or your daughter through all that primping and crap just to have some stupid commiecrat give the prize to an fugly dude 'to be nice'

No offense to anyone who did pageants and enjoyed the process. But this tomboy gal (no lesbo and certainly no ever thinking I was a boy in the wrong body) has just always thought that primping pre-teens with HW doos and makeup was creepy.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (3cGpq)

71 I was a judge at a kiddie beauty pageant once. What a fiasco. The event was nothing but a money grab by the promoters. At the end of the pageant, the female promoter came over to us to give us our checks. She had b.o. and dirty fingernails.

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (dCxaZ)

72 LMAO.

And here I thought Israel Kamakawiwoʻole had died some time ago ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (K3TEc)


His competitive edge was that none of the actual chicks knew how to play a ukulele.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (Qzn2/)

73 So today I learned something new. I am not sure how valuable it is yet, but it is new information.

Today I learned that I have what it takes to be a beauty queen.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (t0OGg)

74 Tell us the people clapped.

Posted by: North Korea at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (unk+j)

75 I feel sorry though for the other pretty women in that photo. They will never be able to put this photo on their wall for memories of the contest.

It would be a scorching reminder that even an ugly guy in a dress has been judged a better woman than them. Permanent humiliation.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (CXr4y)

76 Isn't there an age requirement on these things? Miss Portsmouth looks like she's 13.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (t0OGg)

She also has that "Biden arm guard" to keep the winner from copping a feel on her. Poor girl.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (eoQWY)

77 > 53 Isn't there an age requirement on these things? Miss Portsmouth looks like she's 13.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (t0OGg)

Pageant featured Joe Biden and Bill Clinton as Special Guest Judges.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (bW8dp)

78 53 Isn't there an age requirement on these things? Miss Portsmouth looks like she's 13.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM


Sniiiiiiiifff

I'll be in my bunk

Posted by: Biden at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (P5ydE)

79 Well, he blew everyone else out in the buffet eating portion, so to speak.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (eacmp)

80 > And here I thought Israel Kamakawiwoʻole had died some time ago ...

I love his Somewhere Over the Rainbow cover.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (eyxn4)

81 Those girls who agreed to be in the picture with the fat dude in a dress,

Choke on it, bitches. You want this. You celebrate this. Good for you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (+zMHf)

82 Told y'all. Uglier than hammered dog shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (OvB8Q)

83 Probably. If those IG followers are more important to them than femininity, then so be it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (t0OGg)

All the kids are being groomed for The Social Credit Score... no followers? no Credits and Crickets for you good sir!

Fortunately I'll either be crazy Grand Pa or dead when this lunacy settles in for the long haul.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (OLVeZ)

84 Who are the judges? This is clearly an example of ruling just to score woke points. This isn't a passable tranny. It's not even an over-the-top female caricature drag queen. It's just a fat dude in a dress. He isn't even trying.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (t0OGg)

-------

Even back when I was in high school (late 70's), there were attempts to write-in a dude for Homecoming Queen as a joke, and then at some point (maybe the 90's?) I saw a story where some guy actually won somewhere.

That's what this reminds me of, and don't forget: The Humiliation (or as Ace phrases it "Public Humiliation") is Part of The Kink.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (K3TEc)

85 "And as an EXTRA bonus prize to all the runners-up for being good sports, Queen Nutz-a-Plentee here is going to PERSONALLY stop by their house and deliver one of her signature upper-deckers in the toilet of their choice!"

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (oedLL)

86 Next, a Playboy centerfold with big ole hairy ladyballs.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (Y5qcH)

87 Besides, beauty pageants long ago ceased to be about beauty and talent. They became pandering and victim-hierarchy contests. So viewed in that light, the fact that a tranny won is not surprising at all.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (iFTx/)
++++
In the future, all shows will be Queen for a Day.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (t0OGg)

88 I feel sorry though for the other pretty women in that photo. They will never be able to put this photo on their wall for memories of the contest.

It would be a scorching reminder that even an ugly guy in a dress has been judged a better woman than them. Permanent humiliation.
Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (CXr4y)

If I were them I sure as hell would put it up - right over the machete sharpening desk....then I'd get to work.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (eoQWY)

89 He looks like Buddha in drag.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (eacmp)

90 Holy fuck.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (yFgCz)

91 About a third of the way through the display of children and their stage moms walking the runway, I thought: This is really stupid and annoying and dumb. It does not advance civilization in any way, shape or form. I must subvert this outrage against all humanity.

So I started awarding points for random stuff, like: oh, that little girl has the same name as mom!

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (dCxaZ)

92 Are we living out an Outer Limits or Twilight Zone episode, where headlines written by the Babylon Bee actually come into existence?

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (TNyrE)

93 I've lived in New Hampshire. I think he won fair and square.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (ZLI7S)

94 The redhead on the picture on the right in back looks the most based.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (eoQWY)

95 Miss America? More like King Yum.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (eacmp)

96 The looks on the girls faces - total happy, ecstatic. This tells me everyone knew the outcome from the start. They had to prepare their acting.
==
TBF typically there is a slate of finalists. So they would have KNOWN that this abomination in a dress was in the finalists, not for looks but to make a statement. Surely, if you are going to make THAT statement you are going to go all the way.

Posted by: those kids aren't stoopid, they're just lost at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (yCFQB)

97 Every time I look at that picture I think that all those young women who lost to that guy have nothing but useless fathers.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (qH6FZ)

It's the moms who do this.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (7bRMQ)

98 A fat man pretending to be a fat woman who tells real women to feel good about themselves no matter what size they are. Oooooooooh- kaaaaaayyy

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (NjAfK)

99 "Miss Greater Derry..."

Looks more like "Miss" Greater Derriere to me.

Great, where's the eye bleach?

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (ViC0A)

100 Looks like Margaret Cho after being trapped in a Twinkies warehouse overnight...

I'll show myself out.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (PiwSw)

101 It's gotta be a joke

Did he/she play for the Bears last year?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (dO/0d)

102 Ugh, I really didn't want to do more math, but here we go.

In Alaska the votes are:
Tshibaka 94,138
Murkowski 91,205
Chesbro (D) 20,265
Kelley 6,244

Assume Kelley voters put in Tshibaka as 2nd choice, because they also hate Murkowski, then Tshibaka goes to 100,382.

Then Tshibaka will hold a 9,177 lead on Murkowski. When the Chesbro votes are eliminated, you need 45% of those votes to not say Murkowski, and every vote that says Tshibaka reduces that percentage a tad.

So it is possible Murkoswki loses, but it all depends on how many Democrats listed her as a second choice.

Also there are 1,056 write-ins. Don't know if they get a 2nd choice or if they would even bother to put one in.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (5p7BC)

103 I was a judge at a kiddie beauty pageant once. What a fiasco. The event was nothing but a money grab by the promoters. At the end of the pageant, the female promoter came over to us to give us our checks. She had b.o. and dirty fingernails.
Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (dCxaZ)
++++
I find kid beauty pageants to be intensely creepy. I had no idea they were thing until the Jon-Benet Ramsey murder.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (t0OGg)

104 I've lived in New Hampshire. I think he won fair and square.

---------------

Live free or die!

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (sX1BW)

105 A tranny has purchased the Miss Universe pageant.

The lunatics control everything.

Posted by: You won't believe this at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (unk+j)

106 Ha Ha H a Ha Ha.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (zL564)

107 So, unhealthy body weight is now supposed to be a POSITIVE thing...

OK then... I guess all those guys who got kicked out of the military for being overweight should now sue to get their retirements? (I ran fat boy programs... more than one pretty senior person was booted...).

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (oHd/0)

108 I'd hit that...

with a 2x4.

Posted by: Candidus at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (469KY)

109 A tranny in the Portland area was denied entrance to a beauty competition - "she" took it to Federal court, of course, and lost.

Would you be surprised to discover that "she" was one of the major pro-Antifa "journalists" in Portland during the Summer 2020 riots?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (KCOCK)

110 Those girls who agreed to be in the picture with the fat dude in a dress,

Choke on it, bitches. You want this. You celebrate this. Good for you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (+zMHf)

--------

Yep. This right here has been, and is, the problem.

My rule (I think it's from Gandhi): NON-COOPERATION WITH ANYTHING THAT DIMINISHES HUMAN DIGNITY.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (K3TEc)

111 Miss Lemon Party, maybe.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (Qzn2/)

112 It would be a scorching reminder that even an ugly guy in a dress has been judged a better woman than them. Permanent humiliation.
Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (CXr4y)
++++
Worse. Not only was the dude in a dress judged to be a better woman than them, they are looking on in approval. Can't just chalk it up to the political style of the time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (t0OGg)

113 "41 They're just mocking us now.
Posted by: Tonypete "

My first thought too

Posted by: Tuna at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (gLRfa)

114 Oh and thank you ace for writing "he" repeatedly.

It seems so trivial but the worst gaslighting stuff today involves very trivial things like that. You stand apart by not giving in to accepted untruths.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (0fVbu)

115 "Miss Greater Derry"?

Isn't Stephen King's "It" set in Derry?

This is what happens when the killer clown comes out of the sewer and puts on a sparkly dress.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (bW8dp)

116 As for the swimsuit competition...

NO!! Don't Do IT! We suspend the rule, of "No Pic's, or didn't Happen". OK ok it happen, and we don't need to see .... proof.

Posted by: Paladin at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (5S+8W)

117 Are we living out an Outer Limits or Twilight Zone episode, where headlines written by the Babylon Bee actually come into existence?
Posted by: Curly Shuffle
==
Well I've been saying for years we are in the time of division, the end times. Where everything is turned upside down. I used to sound like a nut. Now people are like NO SHI+ Mr. Obvious.

Posted by: those kids aren't stoopid, they're just lost at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (jsj4H)

118 I think the sumo competition is what sealed the deal.

Posted by: Beau Biden at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (geVLo)

119 The redhead in the second picture has a look of "you've got to be shitting me"

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (5p7BC)

120 Then towards the end, when we had to tally our results, all my cards got mixed up, and as a result children who were poorly dressed and maybe not the cutest of the bunch won prizes. A really mad mom, she was AA, came over and accused us of racism because her beautifully turned out little boy had lost.

He *did* look adorable in his little tux, but you know, whatever. The whole thing is dumb and pointless.

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (dCxaZ)

121 I’d love to see Sofia Vergara and Test Fowler beat that guy to death with their boobs.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (atmen)

122 53 Isn't there an age requirement on these things? Miss Portsmouth looks like she's 13.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:04 PM (t0OGg)

Dude identifies as 12
Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (eoQWY)
______________________________

I have been to a few of these things. Some of the girls are very young or at least look very young. As an adult straight man, I was creeped out by the whole thing. And these were supposedly "adult" contests. Don't get me started on the blatant pedophilia of the kiddie contests.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (iFTx/)

123 Caligula, Nero, and Heliogabalus would be happy.

Posted by: James Smith at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (hvfJj)

124 He looks like a fat guy in a dress. Because he's a fat guy in a dress. Posted by: huerfano at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (dTFZY)

Early Thread Winner?

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (v0R5T)

Maybe, but I'd vote this:

I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: David French at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (9bp5t)

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (7bRMQ)

125 My daughter told me to watch the Netflix series "Derry Girls". Binged first season on a long plane flight recently. I had no idea it would end this way but kinda doesn't surprise me...

Posted by: Giles Overreach at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (rw5Gk)

126 This is odd, because the Miss USA pageant WON a lawsuit to keep a Trans out...

Is this a different organization?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (oHd/0)

127 107 So, unhealthy body weight is now supposed to be a POSITIVE thing...

OK then... I guess all those guys who got kicked out of the military for being overweight should now sue to get their retirements? (I ran fat boy programs... more than one pretty senior person was booted...).
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (oHd/0)

I feel Vindmancated. *strikes a pose*

Posted by: Lt Col. Alexander Vindman at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (PiwSw)

128 95 Miss America? More like King Yum.

Posted by: Marcus T at 

That sounds Chinese.

Posted by: Trump at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (unk+j)

129 How long will the drag queen emperor have no clothes?

Posted by: Shenanigans at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (ZR7kf)

130 41. "They're just mocking us now."

Yep. Getting those girls, their parents and everyone else involved to go along with it is how they get their kicks.

Posted by: spongeworthy at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (vZqvS)

131 Since the stupid young abortobiaches voted for this, they can stand by their, um, man.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (3d7eD)

132 Hearts- healthy at any size!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (NjAfK)

133 Oh and thank you ace for writing "he" repeatedly.

It seems so trivial but the worst gaslighting stuff today involves very trivial things like that. You stand apart by not giving in to accepted untruths.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (0fVbu)


Fox News people have standing orders to call them whatever they identify as.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (AiZBA)

134 Are we living out an Outer Limits or Twilight Zone episode, where headlines written by the Babylon Bee actually come into existence?
Posted by: Curly Shuffle

Yup

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (2xlV3)

135 We were told to vote for this or Maggie Hassan. What would you do?

Posted by: New Hampshire Beauty Pageant Judges at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (FJYfm)

136 Worse. Not only was the dude in a dress judged to be a better woman than them, they are looking on in approval. Can't just chalk it up to the political style of the time.
==
First make em tolerate

Second make em approve

Third make em participate.

Posted by: S-tan at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (yCFQB)

137 All of the other contestants have hemlines at or above the knee but it doesn't?

Show off them legs! Let's see the GAINZZZ!

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (TNyrE)

138 I'm not a pageant expert. But how do you fail the portion control competition and still win?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (eacmp)

139 I won't even ask what its pronouns are.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (Qzn2/)

140 Having all blind judges helps, I suppose.

I reject all other theories, including LSD in the water.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (JOtiF)

141 This sandy bikini brunette is grossed out by this, and offers herself as threadbabe in this time of need:
https://is.gd/Yr63eR

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (t0OGg)

142 If I was one of those actual females you couldn't pay me enough to be in a photo with that mental case.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 11, 2022 02:06 PM (Qzn2/)

Likely he was in your dressing room for the last several days.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (eoQWY)

143 My rule (I think it's from Gandhi): NON-COOPERATION WITH ANYTHING THAT DIMINISHES HUMAN DIGNITY.

yes, this exactly is why I had to subvert the kiddie beauty pageant

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (dCxaZ)

144 Why shouldn't this kind of gross absurdity be nationalized as an election campaign them and hung around the necks of the Democrats? I don't care if it's this, or faggoty little snowflakes crying about a 40-hour work week, or crazy feminists screaming in their cars over Ginsburg's death, or mass looting, rampant street crime, etc etc. Or just clips of Biden mumbling & wandering around on stage? Or a 30-second ad just showing Kamala Harris cackling with a simple caption that reads "Democrat Party?"

Why isn't the Republican Party making this part of it's strategy. "Democrats: this is what you're voting for"

PS - Phat Phuc isn't the problem here. The problem is every (average looking, btw) girl standing next to him who agreed to be part of this farce.

Posted by: SMFH at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (CEh/e)

145 He is one ugly motherfucker.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (BdMk6)

146 "Next, a Playboy centerfold with big ole hairy ladyballs."
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (Y5qcH)


They already had one, a post op tranny, no shit. I never searched out its picture.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (qH6FZ)

147 Head Judge was Fetterman.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (wtvvX)

148 And then one day, for no reason, they elected Hitler...

Posted by: brak at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (lO5WT)

149 > Don't know if they get a 2nd choice or if they would even bother to put one in.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (5p7BC)

There's only one write-in space on the ballot, but you can rank it 1st-5th, the same as the others.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 11, 2022 02:14 PM (bW8dp)

150 His competitive edge was that none of the actual chicks knew how to play a ukulele.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (Qzn2/)


Heh.

I love his Somewhere Over the Rainbow cover.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (eyxn4)


Same.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:14 PM (K3TEc)

151 I'll be in my bunk.
Posted by: David French at November 11, 2022 02:05 PM (9bp5t)


It's gonna be a rough night for The Paolo.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 11, 2022 02:14 PM (ZGrMX)

152 63 Could not agree more. They did this to themselves -just like sports and locker rooms - sorry - we tried to warn you but you called us sexists and bigots and Neanderthals....

Well...suck it up, buttercups!

We have become an unserious and silly people.
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at November 11, 2022 02:07 PM (IKI7s)

==========

Male only spaces were evil. So, some twisted dudes turned it on you and declared that they were allowed in female only spaces.

And the chicks cheered.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:14 PM (LvTSG)

153
130 41. "They're just mocking us now."


Well, sure, Katy Tur without shame was talking up Fetterman as a possible presidential nominee.

Posted by: James Smith at November 11, 2022 02:14 PM (hvfJj)

154 139 I won't even ask what its pronouns are.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (Qzn2/)

Hero/Hoagie?

Posted by: SMFH at November 11, 2022 02:14 PM (CEh/e)

155 SPEAKING OF ELEPHANT JOKES...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 11, 2022 02:14 PM (wtvvX)

156 ugly man-shee that just finished up haunting a house in Olde Manchester."
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma

Oh the huge manashee!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 11, 2022 02:15 PM (Wy1BU)

157 And he took a scholarship away from a real woman.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at November 11, 2022 02:15 PM (5HBd1)

158 121 I’d love to see Sofia Vergara and Test Fowler beat that guy to death with their boobs.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (atmen)

1) I would not want to sully those fine ladies with contact with that pedophile.

2) We would need to test this method of execution. I volunteer as a live test subject.

3) No, you cannot substitute Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: Aetius451AD, Doomscroller Emeritus at November 11, 2022 02:15 PM (CwQXo)

159 Young woman: It has been my dream since I was a little girl to be Miss NH

Miss USA: Sorry, honey, we are going to award it to a middle aged fat dude who decided he was a woman yesterday because we are inclusive.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 11, 2022 02:15 PM (NjAfK)

160 Homer Simpson during his muumuu stage. Even Marge was repulsed at the time.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 11, 2022 02:15 PM (0fVbu)

161 What you are saying New Hampshire is that a FAT Man with Mental problems is a better woman than the rest of you? Maybe I can believe that.

Posted by: EllaMentary at November 11, 2022 02:15 PM (iFPST)

162 SPEAKING OF ELEPHANT JOKES...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 11, 2022 02:14 PM (wtvvX)


I once shot an elephant in my sequined evening gown!

Posted by: Capt. Spalding at November 11, 2022 02:15 PM (Qzn2/)

163 Even worse,
The dude keeps his name, Brian, hasn't chopped off his dick, yet uses she/her pronouns.


Therefore, he's qualified to be a girl.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 11, 2022 02:15 PM (+zMHf)

164 Bert Parks is spinning in his grave.

Can you imagine him crooning to this guy about Miss America?

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (CXr4y)

165 Well, having just blown lunch...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (ZSK0i)

166 Katy Tur without shame was talking up Fetterman as a possible presidential nominee.

Posted by: James Smith at November

Why not?

Do you doubt he could hit 270?

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (unk+j)

167 Here he/she is Miss America
Here he/she is your ideal......

If I remember the words to the song correctly

Posted by: Tuna at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (gLRfa)

168 > Would you be surprised to discover that "she" was one of the major pro-Antifa "journalists" in Portland during the Summer 2020 riots?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (KCOCK)

Wasn't one of the "innocent" convicted felons capped by Kyle Rittenhouse also a tranny?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (bW8dp)

169 Are all the other girls so skinny because he ate the entire buffet?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (eacmp)

170
What a sow (with profound apologies to sows everywhere).

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (pNxlR)

171 Changing the snowblower oil should be less disgusting.

Posted by: DaveA at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (FhXTo)

172 This was the Miss Teen version of the competition and it robs an actual girl of a scholarship, but hey!

This is what I posted about the other day, maybe yesterday, it’s all blending together right now - the patriarchy, red dress version. I called him as sporting the mini Lizzo physique and I stand by that description. Women, we are being erased by men who embrace and act out all the stereotypes of what feminists said they were fighting against. It’s ironic and hysterical and gross all rolled into one. Good news is this one at least looks like he knows how to make a sammich.

Posted by: Piper at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (ZdaMQ)

173 I find kid beauty pageants to be intensely creepy.

These children were not dolled up a la JonBenet. It was clear their moms were living out some fvcked up fantasy fulfillment scenario, though. The announcer would call out the 5 year old's aspirations in life by saying: "And Brittany's goal in life is to be a neurologist/Supermodel"

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (dCxaZ)

174 A really mad mom, she was AA, came over and accused us of racism because her beautifully turned out little boy had lost.

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:11 PM (dCxaZ)

"You didn't win because of the color of your skin, junior."

Really great lesson you are teaching your kid, there, "mom."

Posted by: flounder at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (yHsuS)

175 I am sick of this Trannie woke crap

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (tcekO)

176 PS - Phat Phuc isn't the problem here. The problem is every (average looking, btw) girl standing next to him who agreed to be part of this farce.

100%. Until the other participants speak up nothing will change.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (ZGrMX)

177 157 And he took a scholarship away from a real woman.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at November 11, 2022 02:15 PM (5HBd1)


He didn't take shit, the judges robbed the others of what was rightfully theirs.


THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE *barf*

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (OLVeZ)

178 All the girls said she seems like a really nice guy.

Posted by: huerfano at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (dTFZY)

179 157 And he took a scholarship away from a real woman.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
-----------------------
He is so brave!!!

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:17 PM (CXr4y)

180 As cruel as it sounds, the only way to stop this is to mock the girls who lost to this thing. "HA! You lost to THAT?!?"

Until women stand up and demand a stop to this, it will continue.

Posted by: Wally at November 11, 2022 02:17 PM (FJYfm)

181 86 Next, a Playboy centerfold with big ole hairy ladyballs.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (Y5qcH)

Sorry to break it to you, but it's already a thing.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at November 11, 2022 02:17 PM (W7Hie)

182 And he took a scholarship away from a real woman.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at November 11, 2022 02:15 PM (5HBd1)

Given colleges today that's the only benefit the poor girl gets out of all this

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:17 PM (eoQWY)

183 So... by either theory of how we are made (throwing out alien intervention)...

Either this is making a Mockery of God's intent in making Man and Woman different...

or, as Trans will not propagate, it's anti survival of the species, and thus Anti Darwinian...

Two fer.. so we are supposed to celebrate the destruction of the Human Race now... good to know.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:17 PM (oHd/0)

184 The Evil Association To Force Tranny-ism On The Non-Woke is daring the weak-willed normies to not support tranny-ism and individual trannies, to the max.

They're using the BLM playbook.

Posted by: Gref at November 11, 2022 02:17 PM (AMIL/)

185 PS - Phat Phuc isn't the problem here. The problem is every (average looking, btw) girl standing next to him who agreed to be part of this farce.

Refuse to participate in the farce, and transgender activists will doxx you and do their best to ruin your life.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 11, 2022 02:17 PM (KCOCK)

186 I won't even ask what its pronouns are.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (Qzn2/)

------

Ceta/Cean

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:17 PM (K3TEc)

187 Does this dress make my balls look big?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 02:17 PM (ZLI7S)

188 Are all the other girls so skinny because he ate the entire buffet?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (eacmp)

And picked his teeth with the one on the right

Posted by: flounder at November 11, 2022 02:17 PM (yHsuS)

189 Now the entire slate of competitors get to live with the resume enhancer that they were beaten in a beauty contest by a fat ugly dude in dress.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 11, 2022 02:18 PM (Qzn2/)

190 Does she have a resume? We're hiring at HHS.

Posted by: Rear Adm. Rachel Levine at November 11, 2022 02:18 PM (PiwSw)

191 The girls should have refused to participate, and walked out when he was announced the winner. Yes I know female social pressure and programming to always be happy, smiley, and nice no matter how they feel in order to win but... you didn't win and there's nothing to lose by flipping off this ridiculous festival of woke stupidity.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 02:18 PM (Ivdso)

192 Next, a Playboy centerfold with big ole hairy ladyballs.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 11, 2022 02:09 PM (Y5qcH)


That's not a centerfold, it's a buffalo shot.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 11, 2022 02:18 PM (ZSK0i)

193 Miss "Greater" Derry? At least the monicker fits. Tightly.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:18 PM (eacmp)

194 Omg. I saw this earlier.

This is ugly. If I was the dad of one of those girls….

Good going there NH. Very libertarian of you.

Posted by: Justin Castreau at November 11, 2022 02:18 PM (ai2Yq)

195 >>> Fox News people have standing orders to call them whatever they identify as.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 11, 2022 02:12 PM (AiZBA)

I identify as Fox News can go horse F%@!

Posted by: banana Dream at November 11, 2022 02:18 PM (0fVbu)

196 It takes a truly domesticated people to tolerate men substituting themselves for women.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 02:18 PM (xcd1u)

197 That is full on retarded. New Hampshire is a cesspool of morons.

Posted by: deadrody at November 11, 2022 02:19 PM (kYmXc)

198 TBF typically there is a slate of finalists. So they would have KNOWN that this abomination in a dress was in the finalists, not for looks but to make a statement. Surely, if you are going to make THAT statement you are going to go all the way.

Posted by: those kids aren't stoopid, they're just lost at November 11, 2022 02:10 PM (yCFQB)

Wait. We could go all the way with the winner?!

Posted by: The Lincoln Project at November 11, 2022 02:19 PM (7bRMQ)

199 Those girls who agreed to be in the picture with the fat dude in a dress,

Choke on it, bitches. You want this. You celebrate this. Good for you.

Posted by: nurse ratched
__

Yep.

Just another example of how evil is celebrated.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:19 PM (OCK3i)

200 180 As cruel as it sounds, the only way to stop this is to mock the girls who lost to this thing. "HA! You lost to THAT?!?"

Until women stand up and demand a stop to this, it will continue.
Posted by: Wally at November 11, 2022 02:17 PM (FJYfm)

Hmmm... maybe point out that with all these Men winning best Womenz contests... there may be a REASON women only supposedly make 70% of what a Man makes?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:19 PM (oHd/0)

201 "And he took a scholarship away from a real woman. "

He ate it. Along with everything else.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:19 PM (eacmp)

202 197 That is full on retarded. New Hampshire is a cesspool of morons.
Posted by: deadrody at November 11, 2022 02:19 PM (kYmXc)

========

Well, they were originally from Massachusetts...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:19 PM (LvTSG)

203 AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, BITCHEZ!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 11, 2022 02:19 PM (wtvvX)

204 Off topic, but Salem Media is now all-in on NeverTrump.

Already swore off HotGas a couple years ago. Now, RedState and even Instapundit.

What a bunch of assholes.

Posted by: deadrody at November 11, 2022 02:20 PM (kYmXc)

205 > every (average looking, btw) girl
Posted by: SMFH at November 11, 2022 02:13 PM (CEh/e)

Yeah, not exactly prime pageant material.

Girl in the green dress on the far right might be semi-cute, once she gets old enough to menstruate and grow some breasts.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 11, 2022 02:20 PM (bW8dp)

206 Wasn't one of the "innocent" convicted felons capped by Kyle Rittenhouse also a tranny?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
------------------------
Not sure. There was a multiple offender pedophile that somehow escaped lifetime punishment in AZ. That was kill no. 1. Another guy was apparently a domestic violence convict, and a third was the guy with his arm nearly shot off. He had some sort of record but cannot remember what.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:20 PM (CXr4y)

207 [Thank you to whomever deleted my comment -- intended as a compliment -- that revealed potentially personally-identifying information.

I'm goin' on three years of insomnia and not thinking as clearly these days ...]

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:20 PM (K3TEc)

208 I thought it was Vermont that was supposed to be full of stupid.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 11, 2022 02:20 PM (ZSK0i)

209 165 Well, having just blown lunch...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 11, 2022 02:16 PM (ZSK0i)

*straining... resisting... temptation...*

Posted by: Aetius451AD, Doomscroller Emeritus at November 11, 2022 02:20 PM (CwQXo)

210 Next, a Playboy centerfold with big ole hairy ladyballs.

Already happened. Why do you think every ad on YouTube is for the electric ball-shaver? I mean, besides that gay men are trying to force their preferences on straight men.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 11, 2022 02:20 PM (ZGrMX)

211 If you walk out, you will be banned from further competition. And we will sic the mob on your college and/or employer to cancel you.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 11, 2022 02:20 PM (NjAfK)

212 *straining... resisting... temptation...*
Posted by: Aetius451AD, Doomscroller Emeritus at November 11, 2022 02:20 PM (CwQXo)


You know you want to.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (ZSK0i)

213 A meth head in Sacramento took his girlfriend hostage. When the cops arrived, he told them he was going to shoot every cop he sees. He exited the house holding a shotgun with his girlfriend close by. SWAT saw an opening to shoot him without hitting the hostage, and lit him up like a Christmas tree.

https://bit.ly/3Uwn6OG

Posted by: bonhomme at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (eyxn4)

214 Women, we are being erased by men who embrace and act out all the stereotypes of what feminists said they were fighting against.

Nobody's erasing me and never will.

I'm HERE!

I'm QUEER!

I'm OUTTA BEER!

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (dCxaZ)

215 159 Young woman: It has been my dream since I was a little girl to be Miss NH

Miss USA: Sorry, honey, we are going to award it to a middle aged fat dude who decided he was a woman yesterday because we are inclusive.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 11, 2022 02:15 PM (NjAfK)
__________________

Yes, and there are money and scholarships for winning. It's not just about getting a trophy. The girls also spend a lot of money on prep and consultants and stuff like that. I dated Miss (redacted). She ended up as runner up or something in Miss New York, and then had a nice side hustle as a coach for girls still competing. The girls take this seriously because there is real financial and other upside to it. And some fat guy just stole it from them.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (iFTx/)

216 The thing I will always hate the left for, is they took women away from us.

I like women, I always have. And not in a romantic way, I have always just gotten along with them. They are fun to be around.

But now its feminists, and communists, and non-binary, and trans.

They have ruined women.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (5p7BC)

217 i am astonished that this didn't rate an ACE "is this something ?"

Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (us2H3)

218 There she is,
Miss Ameri WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING!?!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (u73oe)

219 Until women stand up and demand a stop to this, it will continue.
Posted by: Wally
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I demand we put a stop to this.

My work is done.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (OCK3i)

220 Refuse to participate in the farce, and transgender activists will doxx you and do their best to ruin your life.

This is a real thing.

The Portland cops no longer will release the names of cops involved in police shootings, because the home addresses of the cops will be immediately publicized by the Usual Suspects, and then their houses get vandalized.

Tranny activists are even more insane than Antifa activists (when they're not the same person, of course).

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (KCOCK)

221 Bebop your butt off:
youtube.com/watch?v=pYxU0bX4xKU

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (24fqN)

222 There's gotta be a play on words with Derry Air, but I'll defer to those more skilled in the art. Muldoon?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (DhOHl)

223 Not sure. There was a multiple offender pedophile that somehow escaped lifetime punishment in AZ. That was kill no. 1. Another guy was apparently a domestic violence convict, and a third was the guy with his arm nearly shot off. He had some sort of record but cannot remember what.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:20 PM (CXr4y)

Unarmed robbery???

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 11, 2022 02:22 PM (wtvvX)

224 Ok, "there's nothing more beautiful than self delusion" my be my new favorite Ace quote (also swipe text orginally wrote whore instead of quote, which seems appropriate)

Posted by: Rbastid at November 11, 2022 02:22 PM (Glq7j)

225 Those girls who agreed to be in the picture with the fat dude in a dress,

Choke on it, bitches. You want this. You celebrate this. Good for you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 11, 2022 02:08 PM (+zMHf)

Bingo!

Every single one of those young ladies is part of the problem. They put their seal of approval on this maniacal psycho's win. And next time it will be worse!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 02:22 PM (XIJ/X)

226 They have ruined women.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
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We're still around, mostly intact.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:22 PM (OCK3i)

227 Brian Nguyen is 19.
Shouldn't it be Brianna?
I'd say it was a half-assed tranny effort, but ...

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 11, 2022 02:22 PM (2xlV3)

228 I dated a girl who was a state beauty pageant winner and competed nationally. She was one of a few that didn't try to stab me. But I definitely wouldn't close my eyes around her. I think the whole circus made her a certifiable psychotic.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:22 PM (eacmp)

229 Good God! We're even beating them at beauty pageants now.

"Anything you can do, we can do bettaaaaaahh... we can do anything bettah than you"

"No ya can't"

"Yes WE CAAAAAAAAAANN"

Posted by: SMFH at November 11, 2022 02:22 PM (CEh/e)

230 When I'm Senator I gonna make her an Admiral or General.

Posted by: FETTERMAN at November 11, 2022 02:23 PM (z9V4B)

231 204 Off topic, but Salem Media is now all-in on NeverTrump.

Already swore off HotGas a couple years ago. Now, RedState and even Instapundit.

What a bunch of assholes.
Posted by: deadrody
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Their advertisers and GOPe party leaders told them to do it as a coordinated hit on Trump. NY Post, Daily Mail, etc.

Funny thing is that Salem was desperately trying to move people to the MVP gay pay to comment and for extra features from extraordinarily mediocre content providers. This will pretty much kill that I suspect as GOPe prefer mainstream media.

Hope the whole company and its properties sink beneath the waves.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:23 PM (CXr4y)

232 "We're still around, mostly intact.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:22 PM (OCK3i)"

Well, to be fair. You're above average.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:23 PM (eacmp)

233 "Lizzo is my Shero!"
Biden Oval Office visit scheduled in...9...8...7...

Posted by: birddog at November 11, 2022 02:23 PM (uAI4S)

234 191 The girls should have refused to participate, and walked out when he was announced the winner. Yes I know female social pressure and programming to always be happy, smiley, and nice no matter how they feel in order to win but... you didn't win and there's nothing to lose by flipping off this ridiculous festival of woke stupidity.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor a
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Female role in perpetuation of the species is accommodation
Male role in perpetuation of the species is stability
Many times these to roles are in conflict

If these events are errors it is the male's responsibility to correct them.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 02:23 PM (xcd1u)

235 What happens when 90% of the contestants in the next "beauty" pageant are fat, ugly trannies?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 11, 2022 02:23 PM (YIVH2)

236 229 Good God! We're even beating them at beauty pageants now.

"Anything you can do, we can do bettaaaaaahh... we can do anything bettah than you"

"No ya can't"

"Yes WE CAAAAAAAAAANN"
Posted by: SMFH
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Golden oldie.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:23 PM (CXr4y)

237 Off topic, but Salem Media is now all-in on NeverTrump.

Already swore off HotGas a couple years ago. Now, RedState and even Instapundit.

What a bunch of assholes.

Posted by: deadrody at November 11, 2022 02:20 PM (kYmXc)
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Yeah, even Prager -- who continues to call Trump the greatest and most effective President in the last 100 years -- believes Trump is "too toxic" now.

He may be right -- I dunno ... I just am instinctually against letting the Deep State, Progda MDM-MSM, and Junta bullies win by redefining reality & the battlefield (even if they do win in the end, which seems likely now).

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:23 PM (K3TEc)

238 every girl up there is like "I haven't eaten an actual meal for three months and Frank N. Beans over here looks like he's a Donut Quality Control Officer"

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:23 PM (C1Zwz)

239 Hmm... thinin on it a bitz. Evolution programmed us to be attracted to certain physical types, as they are healthy and could help survival of the species.

These folks want to subvert that mechanism... so... why do they hate Evolution? /tongue firmly planted in cheek

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (oHd/0)

240 I suspect this is another "Lia" Thomas - asian with grades not good enough for scholarships without a hook like being a fake tranny

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (2xlV3)

241 The world is mad.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (eGTCV)

242 Nineteen; pageant was open from age 17 to 24.

..hopes to create sustainable, ethical and inclusive products (clothing, cosmetics, etc.) & grow career modeling and social media.

Ok, I get it. Those real girls are also winners & shall continue to rise for outstanding achievements in scholastic aptitude, community service, etc. They're not completing in the competitive world of sports, and their parents are cool about the public exposure.

There's always something creepy about beauty pageants.

Posted by: Lola at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (NIYa7)

243 The Portland cops no longer will release the names of cops involved in police shootings, because the home addresses of the cops will be immediately publicized by the Usual Suspects, and then their houses get vandalized.

Tranny activists are even more insane than Antifa activists (when they're not the same person, of course).
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (KCOCK)
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Solution: make a "mistake" and list the name of some antifa shithead as that of the cop. Correct the "mistake" after said shithead gets his house vandalized.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (YqDXo)

244 Men make the best women.

Posted by: To quote Chris Plante at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (DhOHl)

245 The slippery slope gets steeper and slipperier every day

Posted by: steevy at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (yezA1)

246 Good God! We're even beating them at beauty pageants now.

"Anything you can do, we can do bettaaaaaahh... we can do anything bettah than you"

"No ya can't"

"Yes WE CAAAAAAAAAANN"
Posted by: SMFH
___

Have at it.

Let me know when you squeeze a baby through your dickhole. Video a plus.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (OCK3i)

247 Body-Positive Biological Male Wins "Miss America" Pageant in New Hampshire
______________

Starting at left tackle ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (YqDXo)

248 Honest question: I wonder what Kurt Vonnegut Jr. would have made of all this. This is kinda twisted up Harrison Bergeron stuff...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (PiwSw)

249 What happens when 90% of the contestants in the next "beauty" pageant are fat, ugly trannies?

The beauty pageant dies.

Sort of what would happen to women's professional soccer if they let trannies in.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (KCOCK)

250 I see every "girl" got a crown. Awwwwwwwww.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (Q4IgG)

251 I wonder if these 'brave trannies' have any idea that this aberration is as old as humanity. They probably think they invented it. I'm not enough of a scholar to date Leviticus where cross dressing is listed as one of the abominations.

But I know that was well before even Caligula and Caligula is close to 2K years ago. -yeah I know Caligula was not the cross dresser, he had some shepherd boy castrated and then married the eunuch because the boy looked like Caligula's dead wife according to historical fiction.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (3cGpq)

252 Men make the best women.
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of course you do.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (OCK3i)

253 >>>Their advertisers and GOPe party leaders told them to do it as a coordinated hit on Trump. NY Post, Daily Mail, etc.


stop it, stop it, stop it

enough of the fucking conspiracy theories

NOT EVERYONE LOVES FUCKING TRUMP

HE'S BEEN LOSING FOR THREE FUCKING CYCLES IN A ROW. ALLOW REALITY TO PERMEATE YOUR THINKING. STOP BLOCKING IT WITH CONSTANT DEFENSIVE CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (C1Zwz)

254 a third was the guy with his arm nearly shot off. He had some sort of record but cannot remember what.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:20 PM (CXr4y)

Unarmed robbery???

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 11, 2022 02:22 PM (wtvvX)

Well-played. I think the third was also a DV guy, which made him a prohibited person for that pistol with which he approached KR.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (yHsuS)

255 I think the official title is "Miss Dairy New Hampshire" or similar, Ace.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (yikp0)

256 Would pay money to see this thang wrestle to the finish with Stacey Abrams for sole control of the chocolate fountain at Golden Corral.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (xMxnO)

257 I don't care anymore.

@PhillyCrimeUpd

GUNPOINT HOME INVASION at 1330 N 15th Street.

Police sources tell us that 11 TEMPLE UNIVERSITY STUDENTS were tied up at gunpoint and held hostage in the basement for over an hour.

Taken was multiple items from the house including a Lincoln MKZ

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (ZLI7S)

258 Honest question: I wonder what Kurt Vonnegut Jr. would have made of all this. This is kinda twisted up Harrison Bergeron stuff...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (PiwSw)
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Harrison Bergeron was a model of sanity compared to the world we live in now.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (YIVH2)

259 "Let me know when you squeeze a baby through your dickhole. Video a plus."

I'd pay a dollar for that.

Posted by: Very Quick And Superficial gp at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (24fqN)

260 "Let me know when you squeeze a baby through your dickhole. Video a plus.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (OCK3i)"
😆😆😆😆

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (eacmp)

261 Funny thing is that Salem was desperately trying to move people to the MVP gay pay to comment and for extra features from extraordinarily mediocre content providers. This will pretty much kill that I suspect as GOPe prefer mainstream media.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:23 PM (CXr4y)

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Hey, I'm still here. And you can still find me on Twitter, too.

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (TNyrE)

262 251 I wonder if these 'brave trannies' have any idea that this aberration is as old as humanity. They probably think they invented it. I'm not enough of a scholar to date Leviticus where cross dressing is listed as one of the abominations.

But I know that was well before even Caligula and Caligula is close to 2K years ago. -yeah I know Caligula was not the cross dresser, he had some shepherd boy castrated and then married the eunuch because the boy looked like Caligula's dead wife according to historical fiction.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (3cGpq)

==========

There's a reason the commentariat left is getting all swoony over invented memories of Weimar Germany, and it wasn't the weather.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:25 PM (LvTSG)

263 Compared to that thing, Joan Crawford in her Gorgon phase looks like Ann-Margaret.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 02:26 PM (atmen)

264 I suspect this is another "Lia" Thomas - asian with grades not good enough for scholarships without a hook like being a fake tranny
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (2xlV3)

He hardly needs the scholarship, since any lib arts college will give him a free ride like Harvard let in "Boss" Hog to score points against the normies.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:26 PM (eoQWY)

265 I agree the real girls should have bailed out, get they want to win but it's a stacked deck against them sadly

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 11, 2022 02:26 PM (tcekO)

266 Miss Greater Dairy.

Posted by: Plum Duff, North America's newest cryptid at November 11, 2022 02:26 PM (QGO/0)

267 I wouldn't eat at a restaurant where she was a busboy


judgement call

Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 02:26 PM (us2H3)

268 235 What happens when 90% of the contestants in the next "beauty" pageant are fat, ugly trannies?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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It will die like the Boy Scouts, the Girl Scouts, the 4H in a lot of states now, churches, etc.

The aim is to destroy civil society so no opposition exists to the WEF nutjob plans.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:26 PM (CXr4y)

269 This creature is the best New Hampshire has to offer, h8trs!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 11, 2022 02:27 PM (Mzdiz)

270 Damn, andycanuck beat me to it.

Posted by: Plum Duff, North America's newest cryptid at November 11, 2022 02:27 PM (QGO/0)

271 That girl in background on the right does not seem to be cheering and smiling very enthusiastically. She probably needs to be investigated, or visited by some trannie thugs to help her get her mind right.

/s

Posted by: illiniwek at November 11, 2022 02:27 PM (Cus5s)

272 I have an urge to puke

Been getting that a lot lately

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2022 02:27 PM (dO/0d)

273 Don't underestimate the power of hormones and progressive sounding. Bigot.

Posted by: SMFH at November 11, 2022 02:27 PM (CEh/e)

274 What happens when 90% of the contestants in the next "beauty" pageant are fat, ugly trannies?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 11, 2022 02:23 PM (YIVH2)
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Then Fetterman throws his lump into the ring.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 11, 2022 02:27 PM (YqDXo)

275 Posted by: bonhomme at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (eyxn4)

I love happy endings!

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:27 PM (OLVeZ)

276 This seems to be fueled by hatred of women.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 11, 2022 02:27 PM (eGTCV)

277 Stunning.. I'm stunned I don't know about you

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (bs+z0)

278 248 Honest question: I wonder what Kurt Vonnegut Jr. would have made of all this. This is kinda twisted up Harrison Bergeron stuff...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 11, 2022 02:24 PM (PiwSw)

In the immortal words of Lazlo T. Hollyfeld, Real Genius... over 30 years ago...

Things are getting kinda weird around here.... ya know?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (oHd/0)

279 HE'S BEEN LOSING FOR THREE FUCKING CYCLES IN A ROW
==
Um, well three huh. Gee. I'm convinced. Can we get Romney back? Seemed like a good idea at the time.

Posted by: Not at all sarcastic at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (vwiXB)

280 Women used to know how to take care of this problem.
These girls are two generations removed from a great wealth of feminine knowledge.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (xcd1u)

281 Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:23 PM (C1Zwz)

I wasn't gonna say it, but since you brought up the subject...Miss Portsmouth looks like she has anorexia, the poor little thing.

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (dCxaZ)

282 Ace - Trump won the 2018 cycle.

I'm going to STRONGLY urge you to listen to the podcast this week.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (5p7BC)

283 here's an alternate theory: A lot of us were worried about trump but were limping along with him hoping we could manage to win in 2024 with him but then came the losses of his candidates Mastriano, Bolduc, Oz, and possibly Walker, maybe even Lake (alas), and THEN Trump goes full Biden with these rambling and frankly deranged attacks on DeSantis, one a disgusting repulsive base BLACKMAIL threat, "don't run or I'll tell your wife what I know," Now he's saying Youngkin's name "sounds chinese" (Interesting fact, Trump says), and is bragging about having gotten more votes than DeSantis in a presidential year and is in all ways acting INSANE and like the most unbalanced, thin-skinned, attention-craving retard I've ever seen...

SOME OF US ARE JUST REALIZING: WE CANNOT GO ON LIKE THIS. HE'S GETTING WORSE. HE IS 76 YEARS OLD AND SEEMS TO BE SLIDING INTO HIS "BAD YEARS."

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (C1Zwz)

284 https://bit.ly/3Uwn6OG

Posted by: bonhomme at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (eyxn4)

That seemed to be rather well done. No screwing around with silly commands.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (XIJ/X)

285 Stuff an apple in its maw, and put it in the oven.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (xMxnO)

286 The delusional overweight male mental patient wearing womens' clothing is a tragic figure who needs serious mental health care to help him get in sync with reality.

The degenerate and nauseating cretins enabling this disgusting perverted evil deserve the death penalty for the damage they are doing to the youth of our nation.

Posted by: Pete at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (9uoO8)

287 Hey, I'm still here. And you can still find me on Twitter, too.
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt

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Too busy Hugh, I have to take out the trash GOPe left from election day.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (CXr4y)

288 also the local hot dog eating contest winner, i'd bet

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (kFrCu)

289 276 This seems to be fueled by hatred of women.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 11, 2022 02:27 PM (eGTCV)

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There was a Reddit post floating around earlier this year or last year written by a male to female tranny. It was all about how much he hated (HATED) the attractive, young, lithe Asian woman he worked with specifically because she was so naturally feminine. He was post-op, and he couldn't forgive her for his inability to be as feminine as her.

There's real sickness in a lot of these heads.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (LvTSG)

290 Hot Gas is the no check hub for Ukraine news

all in, no matter the cost

Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (us2H3)

291 Snatch the camel toe from my hand, Asshopper.

Posted by: a Chinese wizard at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (yikp0)

292 Where's RI Red? He's got a lot of 'splainin' to do. What the hell is wrong with New Hampshire?

This is straight-up Babylon Bee material , here.

Posted by: bluebell at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (pTb/Z)

293 Refuse to participate in the farce, and transgender activists will doxx you and do their best to ruin your life.

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Doxxing needs to be made at best a serious crime (it's on a par with conspiracy to attempt murder -- and should be conspiracy to commit murder if any physical harm comes to the doxxie) as well as, and at least, a civil tort that bankrupts & impoverishes these loons for a lifetime.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (K3TEc)

294 continued from the last thread:

I understand how Alaska's dumbass system works. What I don't understand is why they haven't yet figured out who won.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (TgBWG)

295 >>>Um, well three huh. Gee. I'm convinced. Can we get Romney back? Seemed like a good idea at the time.


right, because that's obviously who Trump's worried we're going to replace him with, Romney. Romney is the one he's babbling about every five minutes.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (C1Zwz)

296 This seems to be fueled by hatred of women.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 11, 2022 02:27 PM (eGTCV)

They hate everyone but women don't fight back as hard.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (eoQWY)

297 Calm down, ace.

Breathe in.
Breathe out.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (OCK3i)

298 Ana Navarro, Stacey Abrams, and Miss Greater Derry walk into an all-you-can-eat buffet...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (PiwSw)

299 276 This seems to be fueled by hatred of women.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 11, 2022 02:27 PM (eGTCV)
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And it's up to men to stop it.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (xcd1u)

300
Yeah these motherfuckers piss me off in a way few things do. Some big fat greasy dude pretending to be a chick and demanding that people go along with it is straight-up bullying and harassment toward everyone (but particularly chicks), and it's extremely insulting to actual women.

You think you're a woman, you fat fuckin' pig? Hardly. You can't bring my daughter into the world. You can't go through that agony, and then help me nurse her to health when she's dying, no matter how hard that may be. You can't care for my family when we're struggling at work or school.

You can't do that shit because you're not a woman. You're a g-d damned deranged faggot and you need to climb into an old school lighthouse and self-immolate so your copious fag-tallow can light the way for ships and make your life worth something.

/rant off

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (oINRc)

301 Semi related:

Prominent "detransition" activist Chloe Cole is suing the hospital that performed irreversible gender surgery on her when she thought she was a boy

https://bit.ly/3DYblK1

I really don't know whose side I'm on here.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (FVME7)

302 @PhillyCrimeUpd

GUNPOINT HOME INVASION at 1330 N 15th Street.

Police sources tell us that 11 TEMPLE UNIVERSITY STUDENTS were tied up at gunpoint and held hostage given a crash course in diversity]/b] in the basement for over an hour.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (YqDXo)

303 If ever there was a time when I really want Trump to open his mouthhole and start punching down, it's now. God what I wouldn't give to hear the King of Pageantry himself "weigh in" on this specimen of beauty, femininity, and gastronomic restraint

Posted by: SMFH at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (CEh/e)

304 >>I'm going to STRONGLY urge you to listen to the podcast this week.

Republicans got millions more votes this election than Democrats.

The real loser in this election was Mitch. His petulant refusal to fund candidates like Masters and instead send millions to ass clowns like Murkowski is a big reason that race is even close.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (ZLI7S)

305 YD, well done.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (PiwSw)

306 Ok this is some critical information about the az election that you should read. Of the outstanding votes that remain to be counted. 350k are drop off votes which will swing heavy for lake. Of the 350k 250k are from Maricopa. Take that how ever you want.

Posted by: Genzconservativist at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (pmoqr)

307 I understand how Alaska's dumbass system works. What I don't understand is why they haven't yet figured out who won.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (TgBWG)

probably because the wrong person won.

You could input the data into a program and figure out the winner in each stage instantly. It isn't a complex algorithm.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (eoQWY)

308 >>>Would pay money to see this thang wrestle to the finish with Stacey Abrams for sole control of the chocolate fountain at Golden Corral.

>You know the purification salt would be flying.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (geVLo)

309 Trump won 18 house seats in 2020

a helluva lot better than Kevin did this year

Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (us2H3)

310 The actual girls in that picture look young enough for Biden to sniff.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (TgBWG)

311 289 and it never once dawned on him there might be a really simple explanation for this?

Posted by: Piper at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (ZdaMQ)

312 Miss whatever (not scrolling back up to see) looks like she smells like ripe ass.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (buTO7)

313 >>>282 Ace - Trump won the 2018 cycle.

everytime Trump loses I'm told "he didn't really lose, he was cheated" or "he didn't really lose, he was sabotaged" or "he didn't really lose, it was a victory that just looked like a loss"

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (C1Zwz)

314 All those pretty woman on stag standing behind...

the creature from the black lagoon.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (VwHCD)

315 Short of vicious violence, this can't be stopped until women refuse to participate. My fear, though, is there are enough Pedocrat groomers out there that all the beauty pageants can be successfully transitioned into Tranny Pageants and just keep chugging alung.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (kWePN)

316 SOME OF US ARE JUST REALIZING: WE CANNOT GO ON LIKE THIS. HE'S GETTING WORSE. HE IS 76 YEARS OLD AND SEEMS TO BE SLIDING INTO HIS "BAD YEARS."

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (C1Zwz)

ACE! You said the quiet part out loud.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (XIJ/X)

317 Ace - Trump won the 2018 cycle.

I'm going to STRONGLY urge you to listen to the podcast this week.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
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Dave, you can't reason a man out of a position he wasn't reasoned into.

You don't go all caps on logic baby. Nope.

Posted by: Not at all sarcastic at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (g5JcM)

318 293 Refuse to participate in the farce, and transgender activists will doxx you and do their best to ruin your life.
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No, your life, your soul is ruined when you give in to this shit.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (xcd1u)

319 /rant off

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (oINRc)

Well done.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (yHsuS)

320 SOME OF US ARE JUST REALIZING: WE CANNOT GO ON LIKE THIS. HE'S GETTING WORSE. HE IS 76 YEARS OLD AND SEEMS TO BE SLIDING INTO HIS "BAD YEARS."

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (C1Zwz)


Our choices in 2024 - Two guys who have lost it. Great.

Posted by: Wally at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (FJYfm)

321 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (oINRc)

(Sniff) That was beautiful, man.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (YqDXo)

322 Police sources tell us that 11 TEMPLE UNIVERSITY STUDENTS were tied up at gunpoint and held hostage given a crash course in diversity]/b] in the basement for over an hour.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (YqDXo)

Hate has a home there.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (g03CO)

323 So...

Flame thread?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (LvTSG)

324 You think you're a woman, you fat fuckin' pig? Hardly. You can't bring my daughter into the world. You can't go through that agony, and then help me nurse her to health when she's dying, no matter how hard that may be. You can't care for my family when we're struggling at work or school.

You can't do that shit because you're not a woman. You're a g-d damned deranged faggot and you need to climb into an old school lighthouse and self-immolate so your copious fag-tallow can light the way for ships and make your life worth something.
___

I love you.

Newsletter?

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (OCK3i)

325 That big brown chick reminds me of my Arkansas runs through the ghetto.

Posted by: Willie Jeff C. at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (qu6IK)

326 https://bit.ly/3Uwn6OG

Posted by: bonhomme at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (eyxn4)

That seemed to be rather well done. No screwing around with silly commands.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (XIJ/X)



I commend them for providing all possible camera angles as well.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (ZSK0i)

327 Prominent "detransition" activist Chloe Cole is suing the hospital that performed irreversible gender surgery on her when she thought she was a boy


The Empress thinks that This Is The Way: make transing kids expensive for hospitals and the fever will break.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (ZGrMX)

328 Jamie Farr unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Corporal Klinger at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (DhOHl)

329 Fucking ridiculous. Bad things should happen to the "judges." Mysterious, unexplained, crazy as shit bad things.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (sWM8x)

330 "you need to climb into an old school lighthouse and self-immolate so your copious fag-tallow can light the way for ships"

Best thing I'm gonna read today. Pretty sure.

Posted by: Very Quick And Superficial gp at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (24fqN)

331 SOME OF US ARE JUST REALIZING: WE CANNOT GO ON LIKE THIS. HE'S GETTING WORSE. HE IS 76 YEARS OLD AND SEEMS TO BE SLIDING INTO HIS "BAD YEARS."

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (C1Zwz)

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Out: Orange Sunrise.
In: Orange Sundown?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (K3TEc)

332 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (LvTSG)

Almost like denying the physical reality of how you are made... is a sign of mental instability!

Who woulda thunk it!

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (oHd/0)

333 283 here's an alternate theory: A lot of us were worried about trump but were limping along with him hoping we could manage to win in 2024 with him but then came the losses of his candidates Mastriano, Bolduc, Oz, and possibly Walker, maybe even Lake (alas), and THEN Trump goes full Biden with these rambling and frankly deranged attacks on DeSantis, one a disgusting repulsive base BLACKMAIL threat, "don't run or I'll tell your wife what I know," Now he's saying Youngkin's name "sounds chinese" (Interesting fact, Trump says), and is bragging about having gotten more votes than DeSantis in a presidential year and is in all ways acting INSANE and like the most unbalanced, thin-skinned, attention-craving retard I've ever seen...

SOME OF US ARE JUST REALIZING: WE CANNOT GO ON LIKE THIS. HE'S GETTING WORSE. HE IS 76 YEARS OLD AND SEEMS TO BE SLIDING INTO HIS "BAD YEARS."

Posted by: ace
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We have the time to wait ace. If he continues, he takes himself out of the game regardless of what he does on Nov. 15th. Right now, no one much is paying attention as how many here can remember who he insulted in 2015.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:33 PM (CXr4y)

334 Semi related:

Prominent "detransition" activist Chloe Cole is suing the hospital that performed irreversible gender surgery on her when she thought she was a boy

https://bit.ly/3DYblK1

I really don't know whose side I'm on here.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (FVME7)

Oh I do. Every trans should be able to sue the hell out of someone who did that to them, even if they begged for it. They swore an oath at one time to not harm.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:33 PM (eoQWY)

335 continued from the last thread:

I understand how Alaska's dumbass system works. What I don't understand is why they haven't yet figured out who won.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (TgBWG)
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Big country. Mailed ballots. You thought AZ counting was bad.

Posted by: WisRich at November 11, 2022 02:33 PM (G0vdT)

336 OK, numerically, YD wins the thread, and it's not even close.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 11, 2022 02:33 PM (PiwSw)

337 (Sniff)

This one smells funny.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 11, 2022 02:33 PM (3Or4S)

338 Look at all the dumb ass girls cheering this nonsense and insanity.

Pretty Vacant.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 11, 2022 02:33 PM (R/m4+)

339 Its not like there aren't logical arguments against TRump.

Age is a good one.

So is vax baggage.

There are more.

If you want to actually move the needle, make people think, not mad.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 11, 2022 02:33 PM (fbBBq)

340 Snatch the camel toe from my hand, Asshopper.

Posted by: a Chinese wizard at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (yikp0)

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It would be camel hump for this pageant's winner.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 11, 2022 02:33 PM (TNyrE)

341 I hope those Temple Students were wearing their Fetterman shirts.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (g03CO)

342 "you need to climb into an old school lighthouse and self-immolate so your copious fag-tallow can light the way for ships"

Best thing I'm gonna read today. Pretty sure.
___

Drew a vivid picture in my mind, it did.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (OCK3i)

343 Let's start the 2024 election free for-alls at another time...I'm still pissed about the mid-terms

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (bs+z0)

344 >>> Trump won 18 house seats in 2020

and what about the, you know, presidency?

why did representatives and senators and governors run *ahead* of Trump, consistently?

are you aware of the weird metrics you have to select to find Trump "victories"?

Is everyone on the Trump train just determined to insist forever that Trump is as popular with the voting public as he is in the 30% of the country which is pro-Trump and that all evidence which contradicts this is "fake" or fraudulent? will there NEVER be any proof that is satisfactory to get anyone to admit that maybe trump is not popular?

If he loses in 2024, are you going to insist we run him in 2028 again? When will it end?

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (C1Zwz)

345 Oh good lord.
Madness.

Posted by: Bosk at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (geB2x)

346 Went to a bar with my wife, and the bartender was trans. Really obviously trans.

I just didn't want to see it, I've had enough of this shit. Drank the one drink and got the hell out. So cost the bar a few bucks of business.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (5p7BC)

347 is in all ways acting INSANE and like the most unbalanced, thin-skinned, attention-craving retard I've ever seen...

Holy shit. That's a high bar.

Posted by: Aetius451AD, Doomscroller Emeritus at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (CwQXo)

348 301 Semi related:

Prominent "detransition" activist Chloe Cole is suing the hospital that performed irreversible gender surgery on her when she thought she was a boy

https://bit.ly/3DYblK1

I really don't know whose side I'm on here.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (FVME7)
________________

Same here. I'm about done trying to police what people do to their bodies. I feel bad for girls like Chloe, but she did this to herself or at least allowed it to be done to her.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (iFTx/)

349 Bitch-boy needs some tats.

Posted by: Margaret Cho at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (sWM8x)

350 Trump's rants are really disconcerting to a lot of people who supported him. He's gone way too far at a very critical juncture for our country. That not leadership, it's political malpractice. A lot more people are positing it may be a good thing to have a healthy primary. If Trump believes this kind of garbage will get him through that process, he's dead wrong.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (eacmp)

351 Freakmurica

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (pb6ET)

352 Hate has a home there.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (g03CO)


*zing*

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (dCxaZ)

353 327 Prominent "detransition" activist Chloe Cole is suing the hospital that performed irreversible gender surgery on her when she thought she was a boy


The Empress thinks that This Is The Way: make transing kids expensive for hospitals and the fever will break.
Posted by: Ian S.
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I agree and red state legislatures should make it easy for transitioners to sue medical providers and their hospitals including pain and suffering and make the statute of limitations something like 20 years or so to sue.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (CXr4y)

354 OK, numerically, YD wins the thread, and it's not even close.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 11, 2022 02:33 PM (PiwSw)
__

*nods*

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (OCK3i)

355 Tell me this is from The Bee. Lie if you have to.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (yQpMk)

356 I will back anyone that is against sending those criminals in Ukraine anymore arms or cash

Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (us2H3)

357 "you need to climb into an old school lighthouse and self-immolate so your copious fag-tallow can light the way for ships"

Best thing I'm gonna read today. Pretty sure.

Posted by: Very Quick And Superficial gp at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (24fqN)
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+1

YD bringin' The Pure Poetry ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (K3TEc)

358 Of the 350k 250k are from Maricopa. Take that how ever you want.
Posted by: Genzconservativist at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (pmoqr)

Surely not all of those ballots are in good enough condition to be run through their scanners... I'm sure a good chunk of those ballots are going to need to be "Adjudicated" and "Cured."

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (OLVeZ)

359 I think the official title is "Miss Dairy New Hampshire" or similar, Ace.
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Sorry; "Miss Greater Dairy".

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 11, 2022 02:35 PM (yikp0)

360 Snatch the camel toe from my hand, Asshopper.
Posted by: a Chinese wizard at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (yikp0)
_____________

Chinese wizards don't do phrasing?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 11, 2022 02:35 PM (YqDXo)

361 350 Trump's rants are really disconcerting to a lot of people who supported him. He's gone way too far at a very critical juncture for our country. That not leadership, it's political malpractice. A lot more people are positing it may be a good thing to have a healthy primary. If Trump believes this kind of garbage will get him through that process, he's dead wrong.
Posted by: Marcus T


He's off the rails.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 11, 2022 02:35 PM (pb6ET)

362 ""You think you're a woman, you fat fuckin' pig? Hardly. You can't bring my daughter into the world. You can't go through that agony, and then help me nurse her to health when she's dying, no matter how hard that may be. You can't care for my family when we're struggling at work or school.

You can't do that shit because you're not a woman. You're a g-d damned deranged faggot and you need to climb into an old school lighthouse and self-immolate so your copious fag-tallow can light the way for ships and make your life worth something. ""


Not sure who wrote this, but damn.....I'm impressed.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 11, 2022 02:35 PM (VwHCD)

363 343 Let's start the 2024 election free for-alls at another time...I'm still pissed about the mid-terms
Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (bs+z0)

THIS

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 02:35 PM (iFTx/)

364 >>If Trump believes this kind of garbage will get him through that process, he's dead wrong.

That sounds familiar.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 02:35 PM (ZLI7S)

365 Is Sarah Palin also popular?

For years Palin's fans insisted that she was broadly popular and that anyone who said she wasn't was a liar.

She can't even win a race in Alaska. She's not popular. She's divisive. She is very popular with a minority of people, but broadly unpopular with the public.

She cannot win.

how many kicks from the mule do we need?

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:35 PM (C1Zwz)

366 I have to admit The Lincoln Project endorsing DeSantis is like finding a turd in my soup.
Ron better figure out how to handle thus.

(on topic coz ghey woke ftards)

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 11, 2022 02:35 PM (2xlV3)

367 If he loses in 2024, are you going to insist we run him in 2028 again? When will it end?

I don't know. But I never thought I'd live to see the day that you allcapped "whig".

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:35 PM (dCxaZ)

368 A lot of us were worried about trump but were limping along with him hoping we could manage to win in 2024 with him but then came the losses of his candidates Mastriano, Bolduc, Oz, and possibly Walker,

The doddering old man picked these candidates first choice?
How did they come about?
When they became supported were there other better, viable choices?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (xcd1u)

369 Our choices in 2024 - Two guys who have lost it. Great.
Posted by: Wally at November 11, 2022 02:32 PM (FJYfm)

That has been my fear for awhile now. I've been around multiple aging people the last few years, and watched how fast they can deteriorate.

That the US is ruled by McConnel, Schumer, Pelosi, Biden, or even Trump? Yeah... age is an issue IMO.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (oHd/0)

370 350 Trump's rants are really disconcerting to a lot of people who supported him. He's gone way too far at a very critical juncture for our country. That not leadership, it's political malpractice. A lot more people are positing it may be a good thing to have a healthy primary. If Trump believes this kind of garbage will get him through that process, he's dead wrong. Posted by: Marcus T
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I don't really care as it is self correcting unless there is any truth to what he says which none of us know. How many people thought his insults in 2015 were wild accusations about the GOP and its officeholders.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (CXr4y)

371 Let's start the 2024 election free for-alls at another time...I'm still pissed about the mid-terms
Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (bs+z0)
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I'm with you, Donna. I can't take two solid years of arguments. I just want to sit back and let politics play itself out for a while.

Posted by: bluebell at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (pTb/Z)

372 Fucking insane. These people are fucking insane.

I bet every one of those gals that lost feels cheated.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (I9VC/)

373 Trump won 219 of his 235 endorsements. THATS 93% SUCCESS RATE. so go ahead blame Trump for losing the senate. Its because of him we won a lot of state wide races including taking both state Supreme Courts of North Carolina and Ohio.

Posted by: Genzconservativist at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (pmoqr)

374 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM

*sniff*

That was pure fuckin' poetry, YD.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (Wnv9h)

375 LOL: for Veterans Day, Hillary posted a photo from the Bosnia trip where she's claimed she was under sniper fire.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (zm+d5)

376 >>>Prominent "detransition" activist Chloe Cole is suing the hospital that performed irreversible gender surgery on her when she thought she was a boy


thanks I want to put that up but I forgot about it

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (C1Zwz)

377 Ace - 2024 does not depend on Trump. Whether we win or lose hinges on things other than whether or not Trump is the nominee.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (5p7BC)

378 Not sure who wrote this, but damn.....I'm impressed.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 11, 2022 02:35 PM (VwHCD)
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YD.

Figures you'd be impressed. He's like a mini-me of you.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (OCK3i)

379 Prominent but indecisive "detransition" activist Chloe Cole is suing the hospital that performed irreversible gender surgery on her when she thought she was a boy

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (YqDXo)

380 Oh, and BTW. Trump's line of "I won twice, even bigger the second time" is another garbage dump. You want to legitimately question the election results in some places (and I do), say it in a meaningful way. Talk about election reform and what needs to be done because it's not always about you, jackass.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (eacmp)

381 213 A meth head in Sacramento took his girlfriend hostage. When the cops arrived, he told them he was going to shoot every cop he sees. He exited the house holding a shotgun with his girlfriend close by. SWAT saw an opening to shoot him without hitting the hostage, and lit him up like a Christmas tree.

https://bit.ly/3Uwn6OG

Posted by: bonhomme at November 11, 2022 02:21 PM (eyxn4)


1) I'm fine with the outcome of this case.

b) The linked news story makes it sound like he wasn't a threat to anyone (although he was recorded saying he wanted to kill cops), and that the police overreacted by shooting him. The only thing missing is a picture of him at his 6th grade graduation and a quote about how he was an aspiring rapper and was turning his life around.

Posted by: a.moron at November 11, 2022 02:37 PM (tu3iY)

382 There was an Andy Griffith Show episode where they held a town beauty contest and the judges threw the award to the ugliest woman on the panel out of pity.

Posted by: harrison bergeron at November 11, 2022 02:37 PM (WAIPr)

383 If he loses in 2024, are you going to insist we run him in 2028 again? When will it end?

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (C1Zwz)

He'll actually be too old in 2028. We can run Trump then run DeSantis but not really the reverse.

Saying Trump isn't popular is silly. He wasn't that popular in 2016, he was much more popular in 2020. He has leveraged his support to change the party in some measure.

Most of the DeSantis people are operating under the assumption that 2024 is a lock so we should run DeSantis and don't need many of Trump's voters. It's an incumbent race though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 11, 2022 02:37 PM (eYoxG)

384 377 Ace - 2024 does not depend on Trump. Whether we win or lose hinges on things other than whether or not Trump is the nominee.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (5p7BC)

Exactly.. We have to do some serious work on our ground game

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 02:37 PM (bs+z0)

385 Not sure who wrote this, but damn.....I'm impressed.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 11, 2022 02:35 PM (VwHCD)
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The other HQ poet laureate, YD.

Posted by: bluebell at November 11, 2022 02:37 PM (pTb/Z)

386 Prominent "detransition" activist Chloe Cole is suing the hospital that performed irreversible gender surgery on her when she thought she was a boy

https://bit.ly/3DYblK1

I really don't know whose side I'm on here.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:30 PM (FVME7)


Oh, I do. It's one thing to take advantage of idiots (A fool and his money, and all), but to take advantage of the mentally ill is despicable. These people need treatment, not "affirmation." Sue the doctors into oblivion.

Posted by: Wally at November 11, 2022 02:38 PM (FJYfm)

387 SOME OF US ARE JUST REALIZING: WE CANNOT GO ON LIKE THIS. HE'S GETTING WORSE. HE IS 76 YEARS OLD AND SEEMS TO BE SLIDING INTO HIS "BAD YEARS."

Posted by: ace

ace, Jared and Ivanka will be running the country until 2029 after Biden and the Glee cast running the country.
People are beginning to realize this in my Boomer parents circle... they want him go away. It's all the talk in the Deep South during weekend picnics and college football get togethers.

Posted by: Willie Jeff C. at November 11, 2022 02:38 PM (qu6IK)

388 Biological females who have top surgery seem strangely irrelevant.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 11, 2022 02:38 PM (eGTCV)

389 380 Oh, and BTW. Trump's line of "I won twice, even bigger the second time" is another garbage dump. You want to legitimately question the election results in some places (and I do), say it in a meaningful way. Talk about election reform and what needs to be done because it's not always about you, jackass.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (eacmp)

Nobody is going to listen to a lecture. Whining about soundbite politics just because it's Trump is dumb.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 11, 2022 02:38 PM (eYoxG)

390 NOT EVERYONE LOVES FUCKING TRUMP. HE'S BEEN LOSING FOR THREE FUCKING CYCLES IN A ROW.
-----Ace

I thought he had a 93% success rate for endorsements this cycle?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 11, 2022 02:38 PM (aW5/6)

391 Nuts to their beauty pageant. I'll go tell my wife she's beautiful, and appreciate all she does for me in my life, because she is, and she does, and none of this woke horse-shit can take anything away from that.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 11, 2022 02:38 PM (nRMeC)

392 If the other contestants accept it, who are we to judge?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2022 02:38 PM (OvB8Q)

393 365 Is Sarah Palin also popular?

For years Palin's fans insisted that she was broadly popular and that anyone who said she wasn't was a liar.

She can't even win a race in Alaska. She's not popular. She's divisive. She is very popular with a minority of people, but broadly unpopular with the public.

She cannot win.

how many kicks from the mule do we need?
Posted by: ace
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Palin may or may not be popular Ace in AK but

Ranked order voting crap and jungle primaries are not considered any rational test of popularity.

See Cordocet's Theorem for that one.

Murkowski is obviously unpopular but she will probably win this one--again with a little help from ranked order voting.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:38 PM (CXr4y)

394 Trump is so divisive. We need Jeb! or Mitt, or Mike Huckaby, or Ted Cruz, or Jabba the Hutt, or Zombie John McCain, or anyone.

Really! Anyone but Trump!

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 11, 2022 02:39 PM (I9VC/)

395 I think the official title is "Miss Dairy New Hampshire" or similar, Ace.
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Sorry; "Miss Greater Dairy".
Posted by: andycanuck

Supercow?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:39 PM (FVME7)

396 Talk about election reform and what needs to be done because it's not always about you, jackass.

If you're explaining, you're losing.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 11, 2022 02:39 PM (zm+d5)

397 There was an Andy Griffith Show episode where they held a town beauty contest and the judges threw the award to the ugliest woman on the panel out of pity.
Posted by: harrison bergeron
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So this crap has been around for a while.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:39 PM (OCK3i)

398 I will say this again (not that anyone gives a flying fuck): I resist mass movements. Especially ones that show a massive preference change (apparently.) I can give a ton of examples within the past 20 years if needed.

On the other hand:
FOR FUCK'S SAKE, WE KEEP SAYING THAT VOTING IS FUCKING INSECURE AS HELL AND THE DEMS ARE RABIDLY CHEATING, WHAT FUCKING SENSE DOES IT MAKE TO MAKE CHANGES TO WHAT WE WANT BASED ON THOSE APPARENT (SUSPECT) WINS AND LOSSES?

I am just saying, do we just slavishly follow the weather vane here? Do we go with DeSantis until the media releases both barrels on him and all the coffee klatch set decide he is not acceptable either?

Trump is being weird, I'll grant, but as I continue to say- this is not really about Trump. There has to be a point at which your values do not 'change' with the weather.

Posted by: Aetius451AD, Doomscroller Emeritus at November 11, 2022 02:39 PM (CwQXo)

399 Ace - 2024 does not depend on Trump. Whether we win or lose hinges on things other than whether or not Trump is the nominee.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Demographics. Just wait until Dreamers get the right to vote.

Posted by: Willie Jeff C. at November 11, 2022 02:39 PM (qu6IK)

400 This idiotic story makes me think of a phrase I learned during the whole COVID overreaction: "being forced to live in someone else's delusion."

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 11, 2022 02:39 PM (DhOHl)

401 I just want to sit back and let politics play itself out for a while.

Posted by: bluebell at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (pTb/Z)

I'm sorry, but you have no standing here until you can prove that you have enough chocolate.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (XIJ/X)

402 390 yes he does.

Posted by: Genzconservativist at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (pmoqr)

403 It's like a young Chief Jay Strongbow in drag.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (g03CO)

404 Before I join this mounting No More Trump preference cascade, I want to see what DeSantis is going to do. If RD decides not to run 2024, the NMTs are going to be standing there with their dicks in their hands.

Posted by: Very Quick And Superficial gp at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (24fqN)

405 What a fucking joke. Tell me that the girls behind shim are not seething. He probably ate a few on the way up.

Posted by: deplorable me. Usntakim. at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (ZMPCu)

406 >>>Ranked order voting crap and jungle primaries are not considered any rational test of popularity.


totally accept that but when people voted for her Republican rival, their second choice was the Democrat, not her. that's why the Democrat wins. She is unacceptable to a lot of Republican voters (or r-leaning independents, who are crucial to Republican wins)

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (C1Zwz)

407 Anyway, to beat this guy one of the girls just needs to make it to 99.9% Stunning and 100% Brave.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (zm+d5)

408 is in all ways acting INSANE and like the most unbalanced, thin-skinned, attention-craving retard I've ever seen...
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His comment about Youngkin is as stupid as anything Puddinhead's ever said. He's really starting to piss me off with this stupid shit.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (sWM8x)

409 Is everyone on the Trump train just determined to insist forever that Trump is as popular with the voting public as he is in the 30% of the country which is pro-Trump and that all evidence which contradicts this is "fake" or fraudulent? will there NEVER be any proof that is satisfactory to get anyone to admit that maybe trump is not popular?

If he loses in 2024, are you going to insist we run him in 2028 again? When will it end?
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Your theory of his unpopularity, and/or mental decline and unfitness for office are testable. There is a process. Not sure why the shouting. If he doesn't win in 2024 - even if he wins a primary why would you think he be a consideration in 2028? I mean, I feel almost like this is a goof. You are so good at hyperbole. I dunno tho. I mean to be honest, you were one of the people that helped me consider him the first time, under the heading, what do we have to lose, these other schmoes have no shot. So whoever else has the shot - lets seem step up to the plate. I feel like there is something going on that we aren't seeing. Something behind the scenes. . .

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (jsj4H)

410 She can't even win a race in Alaska. She's not popular. She's divisive. She is very popular with a minority of people, but broadly unpopular with the public.

She cannot win.

how many kicks from the mule do we need?
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Maybe if she and Tshibaka got support from the GOP instead of kicks they would be winning. Maybe if we got our grass roots together we would control the machine instead of it controlling us and us looking at shadows for villains.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (xcd1u)

411 RE: Sarah Palin. What's wrong with you today, Ace? Palin is toxic because the media, the republican establishment, and pop culture made her toxic. Why do you think they went after her so viciously? Has Hunter Biden (or his child shower-bait sister) been subjected to 1/10th the kind of poison that was thrown at Bristol or Trig Palin?

Wait til you see what they do to Kari Lake. Will she be toxic too?

This pattern of "Pick, freeze, personalize, and polarize" is pure Alinsky. They'll do it to DeSantis too. And when the mail in votes are cast, he'll lose too.

I'm not defending or demeaning Trump. But have some perspective on what's at the root of these. The Democrats are monsters. They're a second amendment repeal away from being the Not Sees.

Posted by: SMFH at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (CEh/e)

412 If he loses in 2024, are you going to insist we run him in 2028 again? When will it end?

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:34 PM (C1Zwz)

If Ron loses in 2024, can we have Trump in 2028

oh wait

Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 02:41 PM (us2H3)

413 Who are the judges?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 11, 2022 02:03 PM (t0OGg)

And where do they live?

Posted by: Goon skwads for hire, but we'll do this for free. at November 11, 2022 02:41 PM (FCbAQ)

414 If it hasn't been said already, this person looks like the matchmaker in Mulan.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 11, 2022 02:41 PM (anj39)

415 I thought he had a 93% success rate for endorsements this cycle?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 11, 2022 02:38 PM (aW5/6)

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AZ will put a dent on that percentage, even if Lake makes it through.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 11, 2022 02:41 PM (TNyrE)

416 Don’t hate me for this, but if Trump didn’t run again, and he thought a bit harder about his messaging, he could go down in history as the person who changed the GOP. That is huge (yuge?). He gave us so much, he opened the door, and it sounds so hokey, but he gave us hope back. He can go out on a solid note - he was robbed of his second term, which is maddening. But he can relish in that he did what people said couldn’t be done, he can and should stay important, all while letting someone else pick up the baton. Someone who can have 2 terms to carry things out. Saying you put the country ahead of yourself would be an amazing message in and of itself. I am still working through my feelings on this as I am a strong Trump supporter, but I am also a realist on occasion.

Posted by: Piper at November 11, 2022 02:41 PM (ZdaMQ)

417 ace, try to understand where Trump is coming from. Yeah he's egotistical and not very smooth or polished and as subtle as a monkey wielding a blunderbuss, but this man had his Re-Election outright stolen from him. He knows because he was President when it happened and he DID have people on his side in the military and intelligence who were telling him he was being cheated in real time. He even said, "We Caught Them All." So he's been chomping at the bit waiting for his rematch and DeSantis was apparently cool with waiting until 2028-----until Ryan and the rest started whispering in his ear.
Trump caught wind of this and went ballistic

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 02:41 PM (mR6Gs)

418 SOME OF US ARE JUST REALIZING: WE CANNOT GO ON LIKE THIS. HE'S GETTING WORSE. HE IS 76 YEARS OLD AND SEEMS TO BE SLIDING INTO HIS "BAD YEARS."

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:28 PM (C1Zwz)

Ace, your concerns are valid and I have them as well. The problem is the rest of the GOPe has blown-up the base's trust. It seemed eerily familiar when all the typical one came out blasting Trump and abortion. All it said to everyone else was "The GOP wants to go back like it is 2002." There were few to no articles on cheating or needing to fix voting in blue states. It was an immediate pile-on on Trump. It is TDS on the right. And it has the feel of crushing Trump means crushing what the base wants. The Tea Party was easier because there never was one person to rally around.

Posted by: WiNO at November 11, 2022 02:41 PM (EpDzw)

419 You know this thing will win the Miss America crown. Because this country has lost its mind.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 11, 2022 02:41 PM (Mzdiz)

420 Miss USA New Hampshire 2022 and Miss New Hampshire 2022 were born female. They'll complete in the higher level pageants.
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Posted by: Lola at November 11, 2022 02:41 PM (NIYa7)

421 I do not agree with people who are always outraged by Palin or Trump for that matter but we cannot continue pretending that 1, these people do not exist, 2, these people are few in number, and 3, these people are going to change their mind, or even, most impossibly, that 4, Trump will change his behavior to not bother these people so much.

He's not going to change, they're not going to change, and yes, while it sucks, we DO have to take these people into consideration.

even I'm sick of Trump and I've been defending him like a good trooper for six years.

I think the disgusting blackmail threat was it for me. Yeah, that was it.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (C1Zwz)

422 The country’s already divided. I fail to see how being “divisive” is anything beyond a recognition of the status quo. It’s not like any Republican candidate is going to win over the loony left and reunite the country. So I say let Repub politicians be as divisive as they want and piss off the libs and squishes.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (atmen)

423 That prosthetic boob shop teacher should be Miss America.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (Mzdiz)

424 Ace - 2024 does not depend on Trump. Whether we win or lose hinges on things other than whether or not Trump is the nominee.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (5p7BC)

Exactly.. We have to do some serious work on our ground game

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 02:37 PM (bs+z0)

But first, the circular firing squad.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (yHsuS)

425 maybe we can get Mutt to guest host a AOS thread ?

Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (us2H3)

426 "being forced to live in someone else's delusion."
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 11, 2022 02:39 PM (DhOHl)

Thats a nice new hot take on Democracy...

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (OLVeZ)

427 Something about that photo makes it look like a still from a cartoon.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (eGTCV)

428 Supercow?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:39 PM


Superfreak.

Posted by: Rick James at November 11, 2022 02:43 PM (Wnv9h)

429 "I don't really care as it is self correcting unless there is any truth to what he says which none of us know. How many people thought his insults in 2015 were wild accusations about the GOP and its officeholders.
Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (CXr4y)"

Be serious, because you seem like a serious guy. Trump is starting to bleed support. That runoff has to do with him and nobody else. If you look at the demo that just won the last election and then look at his current support they don't match. In fact it gets to a point where it looks like he cannot win electorally. You can't go scorched earth on the most popular people in the party and expect that to end well. You build a coalition of people most of the voters support and move towards your common objective. Trump has been petty and infantile. Yeah everyone gets a chuckle out of his nicknames and pejoratives when it's someone like Jeb. But what he's doing now it's destructive to our common interests. Not everyone who supports the GOP supports Trump. I know that apostasy to some but it's the fucking honest truth. I'm sick of it to the point that if there is a primary I'll vote for someone else.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:43 PM (eacmp)

430 being forced to live in someone else's delusion
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This is a very good line.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 02:43 PM (5p7BC)

431 Trump won 219 of his 235 endorsements. THATS 93% SUCCESS RATE. so go ahead blame Trump for losing the senate. Its because of him we won a lot of state wide races including taking both state Supreme Courts of North Carolina and Ohio.

Posted by: Genzconservativist at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (pmoqr)


I'm getting tired of Trump's new attacks on everyone he sees as a rival, but when it comes to this cycle I don't see many failures for him.

Oz was probably ther best chance in PA, he was a moderate Taliban who Trump pulled votes for. I think A) any other Republican loses worse, B) Early voting that protected Fetterman's mental inability is what won this, if they debated earlier or didn't have unlimited early voting I think Fetterman loses by a decent margin.

Other candidates were screwed by McConnel in ther Senate. The second he pulls funding he's cutting his own guy if at thr knees in the eyes of the moderates/ independents. Masters certainly could have used the money, but the look of losing leaderships support was a killer (also while not enough, the 40K plus for the libertarian who endorsed Masters would have helped if they were close enough for a recount)

Posted by: Rbastid at November 11, 2022 02:43 PM (Glq7j)

432 Hey...remember that part of Predator where all the Jessie Venture said, "I ain't got time to bleed"?

Yeah, that was pretty awesome...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:43 PM (LvTSG)

433 I guess round is in

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2022 02:43 PM (dO/0d)

434 377 Ace - 2024 does not depend on Trump. Whether we win or lose hinges on things other than whether or not Trump is the nominee.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 02:36 PM (5p7BC)
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You can do a lot of things right and Trump will cancel them.

Posted by: WisRich at November 11, 2022 02:44 PM (G0vdT)

435 I'm sorry, but you have no standing here until you can prove that you have enough chocolate.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (XIJ/X)
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I have no chocolate, therefore I have no standing.

I will go lie down somewhere.

Posted by: bluebell at November 11, 2022 02:44 PM (pTb/Z)

436 CO psychedelic mushroom initiative passes

add tripping drivers to our already drunk and stoned drivers

Posted by: DB at November 11, 2022 02:44 PM (geLO8)

437 I think the disgusting blackmail threat was it for me. Yeah, that was it.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (C1Zwz)

Didn't Trump face the same in 2016? Stormy Daniels, maybe.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 02:44 PM (yHsuS)

438 Superfreak.
Posted by: Rick James at November 11, 2022 02:43 PM (Wnv9h)

I don't think thats what he was suggesting in that song.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:44 PM (OLVeZ)

439 You know this thing will win the Miss America crown. Because this country has lost its mind.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist

Expect strong competition from Michael Moore.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:44 PM (FVME7)

440 this kinda reminds me of when the AOS was all in for Cruz in 2016

that woulda worked out well

Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 02:44 PM (us2H3)

441 >>>Ace, your concerns are valid and I have them as well. The problem is the rest of the GOPe has blown-up the base's trust. It seemed eerily familiar when all the typical one came out blasting Trump and abortion.

it's not true. You keep pretending there is only Trump and GOPe and therefore we must pick GOPe. You continue ignoring there are people who are not trump and also not GOPe. Hawley, for example.

And DeSantis, for a more obvious example.

People who support Trump want to pretend he IS GOPe to continue this idea that "We can only choose Trump or GOPe."

that was the argument in 2015. It was a TRUE claim in 2015.

It is NOT true now.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:44 PM (C1Zwz)

442 If RD decides not to run 2024, the NMTs are going to be standing there with their dicks in their hands.
Posted by: Very Quick And Superficial gp at November 11, 2022 02:40 PM (24fqN)

A step up from having someone else's dick in your hands, unless you're the lincoln project.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (FCbAQ)

443 Don’t hate me for this, but if Trump didn’t run again, and he thought a bit harder about his messaging, he could go down in history as the person who changed the GOP. That is huge (yuge?). He gave us so much, he opened the door, and it sounds so hokey, but he gave us hope back. He can go out on a solid note - he was robbed of his second term, which is maddening. But he can relish in that he did what people said couldn’t be done, he can and should stay important, all while letting someone else pick up the baton. Someone who can have 2 terms to carry things out. Saying you put the country ahead of yourself would be an amazing message in and of itself. I am still working through my feelings on this as I am a strong Trump supporter, but I am also a realist on occasion.
Posted by: Piper at November 11, 2022 02:41 PM (ZdaMQ)

Sure, who doesn't want to be the guy who got the shy girl next door to come out of her shell and start being sociable and go to parties and be confident----only for some other guy to get the glory of deflowering her on Prom Night?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (mR6Gs)

444 It's important to trigger the Looney left into paroxysms of ultraviolence.

If things stay quiet the people on the fence won't fear the left and we lose votes because comity.

Posted by: torabora at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (z0aPa)

445 I have an urge to puke

Been getting that a lot lately
Posted by: Nevergiveup

I thought Captains had someone to puke for them ?

Posted by: JT at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (T4tVD)

446 If Trump is so toxic why is the media and the establishment working overtime to get rid of him? Why not just let him run against that dynamo Joe Biden who clearly got 81 million legal votes in 2020?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (ZLI7S)

447 Superfreak.
Posted by: Rick James at November 11, 2022 02:43 PM (Wnv9h)

I don't think thats what he was suggesting in that song.
Posted by: tryhardneckbeard

Well, you can't take her home to mother.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (FVME7)

448 440 this kinda reminds me of when the AOS was all in for Cruz in 2016

I still like Cruz and I like Noem.... I know neither one are popular here...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (bs+z0)

449 421 We might also ask, has anything DJT has done in the last week actually won any new votes to his or our side?

Posted by: Very Quick And Superficial gp at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (24fqN)

450 also: does every weekday thread devolve to 'Trump yes/no' thread?

discuss

Posted by: DB at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (geLO8)

451 It’s The Big Ugly, and We’re Here For It

https://tinyurl.com/5db7kn4f

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (OCK3i)

452 SOME OF US ARE JUST REALIZING: WE CANNOT GO ON LIKE THIS. HE'S GETTING WORSE. HE IS 76 YEARS OLD AND SEEMS TO BE SLIDING INTO HIS "BAD YEARS."

Posted by: ace

Geez,Ace. Not everyone that gets old gets dementia. I've had several in my family that lived into their 90's with their minds still sharp as a tack.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (BdMk6)

453 this kinda reminds me of when the AOS was all in for Cruz in 2016

that woulda worked out well

Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 02:44 PM (us2H3)

I think we've all learned a lot in the past 6 years.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 11, 2022 02:46 PM (Mzdiz)

454 The Granite State. Rock Solid. Conservative.

Posted by: Eromero at November 11, 2022 02:46 PM (kjgzd)

455 Think I'll just sit in a quiet corner and compare donor lists. See how many of Jeb!(please clap) donors show up on the candidates lists.

Then I think we'll know ooo's bought ooo.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at November 11, 2022 02:46 PM (1DgE4)

456 I thought Captains had someone to puke for them ?
Posted by: JT at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (T4tVD)

No, just someone to hold the bucket and tell us what great puke it is

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2022 02:46 PM (dO/0d)

457 294 continued from the last thread:

I understand how Alaska's dumbass system works. What I don't understand is why they haven't yet figured out who won.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (TgBWG)


Right. It involves math, but it's second-grade math, and shouldn't take any time at all to figure out who won, in any of the possible scenarios. You don't have to recount the votes, just apply a different function to the already counted vote totals.

Unless you're a retard.

Posted by: a.moron at November 11, 2022 02:46 PM (tu3iY)

458 The country’s already divided. I fail to see how being “divisive” is anything beyond a recognition of the status quo.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (atmen)

Sorry, but you are missing the point. Trump's last two broadsides were aimed at Republicans.

He should be savaging the Democrats and supporting MAGA and MAGA-curious politicians across the country, but instead he is acting like the bully on the playground; demanding fealty and attention.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 02:46 PM (XIJ/X)

459 450 also: does every weekday thread devolve to 'Trump yes/no' thread?

discuss
Posted by: DB at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (geLO

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I'm looking for contradictions...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:46 PM (LvTSG)

460 Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (C1Zwz)

You gotta go to war with what you have, right now we have Patton a la Italian Campaign. And DeSantis' with an absolutely horrendous PR team.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:46 PM (OLVeZ)

461 "If the Big Ugly arrives in a contest between President Trump and Governor DeSantis, well, great; it needs to happen.

The bottom line is we need this Big Ugly fight. Not only does the future of the GOP reside in the outcome, the future of a constitutional republic free from corporatism is contingent upon it." - Sundance

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:46 PM (OCK3i)

462 One begins to wonder if the limit of stupidity exists, or the limit of cowardice.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 11, 2022 02:46 PM (eJn7u)

463 426 "being forced to live in someone else's delusion."
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 11, 2022 02:39 PM (DhOHl)

Thats a nice new hot take on Democracy...
Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (OLVeZ)

Gaslighting by a Mob.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:47 PM (oHd/0)

464 Its raining pretty good here.....

Posted by: JT at November 11, 2022 02:47 PM (T4tVD)

465 Exactly.. We have to do some serious work on our ground game
Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 02

Truly. We must make it known that democrat election officials that if they cheat they will feel pain they cannot possibly imagine.

Wow. 3 theys in that sentence.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 11, 2022 02:47 PM (n2xrq)

466 parties and be confident----only for some other guy to get the glory of deflowering her on Prom Night?
Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (mR6Gs
*****
I think I'll brush my teeth now.

Posted by: Paolo at November 11, 2022 02:47 PM (z0aPa)

467 Are these DJT insults to DeSantis and Youngkin for real? Or an op.
Because it sure seems like an op.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, thanks vets at November 11, 2022 02:47 PM (jTmQV)

468 >>>ace, try to understand where Trump is coming from. Yeah he's egotistical and not very smooth or polished and as subtle as a monkey wielding a blunderbuss, but this man had his Re-Election outright stolen from him. He knows because he was President when it happened and he DID have people on his side in the military and intelligence who were telling him he was being cheated in real time

i understand all that but he is acting so emotionally and a little bit crazily and that's not the kind of person I want making decisions for the country.

seriously, we're knocking biden for this kind of thing.

>>>. He even said, "We Caught Them All." So he's been chomping at the bit waiting for his rematch and DeSantis was apparently cool with waiting until 2028-----until Ryan and the rest started whispering in his ear.
Trump caught wind of this and went ballistic


this is bullshit, you guys are hearing bullshit crap from a fucking shopping center employee who pretends he's totally plugged in and repeating it as if it's confirmed intel.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:47 PM (C1Zwz)

469 NO, we don't have to take the people who are outraged into consideration (in your context) these are the perpetually outraged. You could suck their dicks and they would be outraged at the way you did it.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 02:47 PM (xcd1u)

470 And by the way, no serious person in a leadership position ever says let's go scorch and insult all the lieutenants and then move toward the objectives divided. You bring everyone together, agree on a plan and execute as one unit.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:47 PM (eacmp)

471 So, nekkid lardass on an ottoman is now Miss America?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 11, 2022 02:47 PM (eJn7u)

472 467 Are these DJT insults to DeSantis and Youngkin for real? Or an op.
Because it sure seems like an op.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, thanks vets at November 11, 2022 02:47 PM (jTmQV)

Well it's a brain dead Op

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 02:48 PM (bs+z0)

473
A fat guy wins a women's contest?

How about a dead body, or a board, or a piece of dog shit. These contestants can be backed by an unseen committee, like Biden or Fetterman.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 11, 2022 02:48 PM (sMiFr)

474 De Santis NEEDS Trump's supporters to win in 2024 and if he's seen as the guy swooping in and taking the nomination from Trump, we get President Newsom in 2024

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 02:48 PM (mR6Gs)

475 Posted by: DB at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (geLO

Its either that or talk about chicks with dicks... thats why I had to step away for awhile. The mid-terms brought me back here but I'm thinking AoShq is still doing once a Dick Chick Threads?

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:48 PM (OLVeZ)

476 Geez,Ace. Not everyone that gets old gets dementia. I've had several in my family that lived into their 90's with their minds still sharp as a tack.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (BdMk6)

True

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 11, 2022 02:48 PM (Mzdiz)

477 I tell you what, I'd love to see the dangly blessings of liberty on that hottie!

Posted by: David French at November 11, 2022 02:48 PM (ESjRY)

478 If he loses in 2024, are you going to insist we run him in 2028 again? When will it end?

Posted by: ace
--------------------------
Let him run and go after the stupid political hit job by Conservative Media. If he keeps on, he will destroy his own base, not the party. If he repents, then not so much.

You want to keep Trump supporters on board, you eliminate him in a fair process without the coordinated hits, without the crappy old McConnells, Romneys, etc. spouting off, etc.

People are pretty sick of the whole GOPe party apparatus from Alpha to Zed. The conservative media are puppets for billionaires who hate us, the officeholders are weak kneed sluts who give slobbery blow jobs to every single big donor and big corporation but somehow cannot lift one finger to help those poor souls in DC jail for protesting.

So if the Donald says bad things about DeSantis, Youngkin, McConnell, etc, I don't care. It is either true then we should know, or false and he is going batty. Either way, the problem resolves itself and trying to manufacture a consensus will simply cause people to walk away so the left will win in default.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:48 PM (CXr4y)

479 294 continued from the last thread:

I understand how Alaska's dumbass system works. What I don't understand is why they haven't yet figured out who won.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (TgBWG)

Nobody knows how to put formulas into an Excel Spreadcheat? (yeah... spelled dat way on purpose).

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:48 PM (oHd/0)

480 >Are these DJT insults to DeSantis and Youngkin for real? Or an op.
Because it sure seems like an op.

Posted by: gourmand du jour


we need the commenter who says everything's an op to weigh in

Posted by: DB at November 11, 2022 02:49 PM (geLO8)

481 Ace, your concerns are valid and I have them as well. The problem is the rest of the GOPe has blown-up the base's trust. It seemed eerily familiar when all the typical one came out blasting Trump and abortion. All it said to everyone else was "The GOP wants to go back like it is 2002." There were few to no articles on cheating or needing to fix voting in blue states. It was an immediate pile-on on Trump. It is TDS on the right. And it has the feel of crushing Trump means crushing what the base wants. The Tea Party was easier because there never was one person to rally around.
Posted by: WiNO at November 11, 2022 02:41 PM (EpDzw)

ace, I hear your frustration. And as an AlwaysTrumper, I'll tell you that I went to a men's Bible study meeting this morning, and to a person this Leans-R group is tired of Trump as well. I can come up with reasons why they're wrong, of course, but the fact of the matter is that selling is 5% intellectual and 95% emotional. At least right now, with my relatively small in-person sample set, there is a visceral reaction against Trump. It's going to take time - and some silence and some more Bad Luck - to get a lot of people to think differently.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 11, 2022 02:49 PM (Zqchx)

482 Another Daily Daddario, because I am bored:

https://tinyurl.com/bdfmnc2

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:49 PM (LvTSG)

483 That prosthetic boob shop teacher should be Miss America.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (Mzdiz)
______________

And win "Miss Dairy" by acclamation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 11, 2022 02:49 PM (YqDXo)

484 458 The country’s already divided

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (atmen)

We left divided about 2 election cycles back and are deep inside Polarized territory.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:49 PM (OLVeZ)

485 I'm also tired of hearing the unfounded bullshit that it's Trump or we lose. Sure. That's why the man-baby is throwing rocks at anyone who might challenge him.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (eacmp)

486 DeSantis NEVER SAID HE WASN'T RUNNING. This is something that pro-Trump people wishcast.

DeSantis refused to say in his debate that he would serve all four years of his terms. Would have been the easiest thing to make that promise. He refused to make it.

"Ryan whispering in his ear." This is just yet another attempt by a shopping center clerk pretending he's some kind of serious intel officer to create a fake narrative whereby DeSantis -- who founded the Freedom Caucus to OPPOSE the establishment -- is directed and controlled by the establishment.

That is just to create the same 2015 dynamic: "We have to support Trump because EVERYONE ELSE IS GOPe."

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (C1Zwz)

487 476 Geez,Ace. Not everyone that gets old gets dementia. I've had several in my family that lived into their 90's with their minds still sharp as a tack.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (BdMk6)

True
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 11, 2022 02:48 PM (Mzdiz)

But would they have the energy needed to fight battles day in and day out, to make substantive change in an entire country?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (oHd/0)

488 This is all fascinating, but ya'll think I should order Lobster in Black Bean sauce tonight or something else?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (dO/0d)

489 446 If Trump is so toxic why is the media and the establishment working overtime to get rid of him? Why not just let him run against that dynamo Joe Biden who clearly got 81 million legal votes in 2020?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (ZLI7S)
__________________

THIS THIS THIS. I made a similar comment yesterday and advised not to take advice from your enemies. But the usual GOP circular firing squad is in place and firing away. And we don't even have the election results all in yet. The in-fighting over Trump or Not Trump is premature and counterproductive. It's what the left WANTS us to do, and we are falling into their trap.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (iFTx/)

490 I think the disgusting blackmail threat was it for me. Yeah, that was it.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (C1Zwz)


Especially given the blackmail attempts on Cruz and his marriage from 2016. I didn't let that stop me from voting for Trump because a) Hillary; and b) Maybe Trump didn't have anything to do with it.
But after that threat on the DeSantis marriage, I'm done with Trump, unless my only other choice is Biden.

Posted by: Wally at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (FJYfm)

491 After that, there's little left to do but sing a hymn to SMOD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkTgYiMDRHY&t=151s

Posted by: Rowsdower Believes Epps Is A Fed at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (Jo6nR)

492 A fat guy wins a women's contest?

How about a dead body, or a board, or a piece of dog shit. These contestants can be backed by an unseen committee, like Biden or Fetterman.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 11, 2022 02:48 PM (sMiFr)

Someday in the future, people will point at us and laugh and ask why fat ugly men won beauty contests designed for beautiful young women and brain dead politicians were elected to high office

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (mR6Gs)

493 Is General Milley's counterpart going to ring him up before 💩 Tin nukes Ukraine?

Posted by: torabora at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (z0aPa)

494 Nobody knows how to put formulas into an Excel Spreadcheat? (yeah... spelled dat way on purpose).
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:48 PM (oHd/0)
____________

Shoulda been INcel Spreadcheat.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (YqDXo)

495 The country’s already divided. I fail to see how being “divisive” is anything beyond a recognition of the status quo.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

James Woods@RealJamesWoods
Only one clear truth emerged from this election: this country is evenly divided and each side thinks the other is literally insane.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (FVME7)

496 At least right now, with my relatively small in-person sample set, there is a visceral reaction against Trump. It's going to take time - and some silence and some more Bad Luck - to get a lot of people to think differently.
==
The solution to this angst is primaries.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 11, 2022 02:51 PM (10MMo)

497 I give Trump credit for his successes, and the work he has put in and I give DeSantis credit for his, and all down the line. The problem is that it bottoms out quickly after that. I don't hear anyone else in the GOP leadership saying anything except for the usual nothing talk, and I don't see their slate of candidates winning election. If you want Trump to lose influence, start your own rallies, show you can achieve my goals faster and better.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:51 PM (eoQWY)

498 Critical Drinker has thoughts about Black Panther, Wakanda Forever:

https://youtu.be/VPRUAqraFFY

Even RogerEbert.com only gave this piece of dogshit ond and a half stars.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 11, 2022 02:51 PM (H+3IP)

499 Suggestion, we create one Trump v DeSantis thread a day and ban discussion of it outside of that thread.

I've got my opinions but...we aren't quite done with the '22 election and we are spending way to much time on this one topic.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2022 02:51 PM (ESjRY)

500 If the dude was a woman, it would never have been allowed to "compete. " too fat, too ugly.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at November 11, 2022 02:51 PM (Rbu5d)

501 So she's "Miss Dairy?" That explains a lot.

Moo.

Posted by: bluebell at November 11, 2022 02:51 PM (pTb/Z)

502 I think we should settle the midterms before we begin the fratricide.

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at November 11, 2022 02:51 PM (AexoC)

503 Someday in the future, people will point at us and laugh and ask why fat ugly men won beauty contests designed for beautiful young women and brain dead politicians were elected to high office
Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (mR6Gs)
________________

So you're saying I'm ahead of my time?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 11, 2022 02:51 PM (YqDXo)

504 OT, last topic.

Ron Johnson, Mike Lee and Rick Scott join Marco in calling for a delay in leadership vote.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 11, 2022 02:51 PM (qH6FZ)

505 but ya'll think I should order Lobster in Black Bean sauce tonight or something else?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (dO/0d)


that sounds good, NGU

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (dCxaZ)

506 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:49 PM (LvTSG)

That is actually sort of strange. She is contorting and gyrating in a distinctly unsexy way.

Are you sure she isn't a dude?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (XIJ/X)

507 >>I still like Cruz and I like Noem.... I know neither one are popular here...

I like them both. And Noem won by a bigger margin than Ron this year. In fact, 4 governors had bigger margins than Ron. And I like him too.

My guess is Trump thought he had a deal with Ron. He helped him get the governors job and expected his backing for a run in 2024 in return and to date Ron has not complied. Trump values loyalty over everything. I don't think he needed to come out with such a strong statement but it's not rocking my world. I'm old enough to remember when Bush supporters spread a rumor about McCain's daughter in South Carolina. Politics is a rough business.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (ZLI7S)

508 450 also: does every weekday thread devolve to 'Trump yes/no' thread?

discuss

Posted by: DB at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (geLO


The answer to your question is yes. This trend is making me feel unappreciated by the Horde. I used to be discussed, or at least mentioned, in EVERY thread, damn it!

Posted by: Adolf H. at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (AMIL/)

509 From a previous thread:
"But the other problem is national messaging. There needs to be a unified, 50-state message for the republican party which on one hand promotes the economy, security, and freedom, while also UNRELENTINGLY vilifies the Democrats as the lying, corrupt, fascist, out-of-touch, elitist, racist, violent party that they are. If the Dems can win big by selling women on the idea that we want to turn America into the handmaids tale, then by-God I have no problem linking the Democrats straight back to the KKK, the communist party, and every other godawful thing they've ever done.
Posted by: SMFH"
THIS. X/1,000.
Ron Johnson ran the lamest, shittiest campaign imaginable. 'Big Government! Liberal Spending! Old Respectable White Guy In A Suit!' FUCK all that.
I want to see full-on, vicious, unhinged ATTACKS on Democrats. I want to see publicized freak shows like this. I want to go as low as possible, I want boots to balls. I want anyone voting Democrat to face what the fuck they're really voting for.

Posted by: LenNeal at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (U11/V)

510 But would they have the energy needed to fight battles day in and day out, to make substantive change in an entire country?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (oHd/0)

I have no doubts whatsoever about Trump's energy.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (Mzdiz)

511 The doddering old man picked these candidates first choice? How did they come about? When they became supported were there other better, VIABLE choices?
===Braenyard

Excellent question and one I would like the answer to.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (aW5/6)

512 Ivanka.

Posted by: MJ at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (vFdoG)

513 That person's parents must be proud.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (sVtYq)

514 THIS THIS THIS. I made a similar comment yesterday and advised not to take advice from your enemies. But the usual GOP circular firing squad is in place and firing away. And we don't even have the election results all in yet. The in-fighting over Trump or Not Trump is premature and counterproductive. It's what the left WANTS us to do, and we are falling into their trap.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (iFTx/)

And I remain convinced that the Ryans and McConnells and CoC types don't want Trump OR De Santis to be the nominee.
They would prefer a Youngkin or Tim Scott or Nicki Haley

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (mR6Gs)

515 >>>, I'll tell you that I went to a men's Bible study meeting this morning, and to a person this Leans-R group is tired of Trump as well. I can come up with reasons why they're wrong, of course, but the fact of the matter is that selling is 5% intellectual and 95% emotional.

thanks for saying that. I'm glad I have someone witnessing that this is not just an establishment "Bat Signal" going out -- I'm hearing this from EVERYONE. It's a preference cascade. This is just one loss too many and Trump is acting, frankly, insane right now. If it were just the loss, that would be one thing, but he's acting like a lunatic and people are recoiling from it.

meanwhile DeSantis says nothing, which is the 100% perfect play, and Trump keeps babbling because he doesn't even realize that he sounds crazy and not-in-control-of-himself with his ranting and raving.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (C1Zwz)

516 443 I get it, but this isn’t prom with a pretty girl, this is the best nation on God’s green earth we stand to lose. Something’s are bigger than self.

As I said, I am still working through my thoughts on this. I just know when we are faced with losing to Kamala Harris, and we can’t let that happen.

Posted by: Piper at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (ZdaMQ)

517 But would they have the energy needed to fight battles day in and day out, to make substantive change in an entire country?
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (oHd/0)

Maybe not, but so far few GOPers seem to be working even a few days in.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 02:53 PM (eoQWY)

518 498 Critical Drinker has thoughts about Black Panther, Wakanda Forever:

https://youtu.be/VPRUAqraFFY

Even RogerEbert.com only gave this piece of dogshit ond and a half stars.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 11, 2022 02:51 PM (H+3IP)

===========

Heh. I finally checked out a recent Marvel movie in the form of Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. Without Sam Raimi making things interesting visually, there'd be nothing to grasp onto. It was a mess, but Raimi worked his ass off to make it look fun, at least.

And these movies still make, like, $800 million without sweating. Ugh...I like my old, financial bombs, of violent revisionist westerns, I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:53 PM (LvTSG)

519 Lobster in Black Bean sauce

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (dO/0d)


Northerners.... *shakes head*

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:53 PM (OLVeZ)

520 I've got my opinions but...we aren't quite done with the '22 election and we are spending way to much time on this one topic.
Posted by: 18-1
___

Considering that the 2022 election is still ongoing in some places, not surprising that it is still being talked about.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:53 PM (OCK3i)

521 DeSantis has proven he's a competent executive, but not on a federal level. He's operating on a state level which is the JV team. Trump has been on the federal, varsity team and through experience can talk smack.

I like them both. DeSantis could run and win, but if he does he should make Trump his VP and Trump could be a force of nature behind the scene if he could temper his ego and not vocalize his desire to butt heads with everybody.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 11, 2022 02:53 PM (geVLo)

522 A guy I'm with just pointed out that it looks like even the NY Post is now dunking on Trump. They're calling him Trumpty Dumpty. Lol

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:53 PM (eacmp)

523 For record, girl in green on the left should have won out of all we see

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 11, 2022 02:54 PM (xhxe8)

524 506 That is actually sort of strange. She is contorting and gyrating in a distinctly unsexy way.

Are you sure she isn't a dude?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (XIJ/X)

==========

Further investigation is necessary! I volunteer as tribute!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:54 PM (LvTSG)

525 446 If Trump is so toxic why is the media and the establishment working overtime to get rid of him? Why not just let him run against that dynamo Joe Biden who clearly got 81 million legal votes in 2020?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (ZLI7S)

THIS. It's too close to the events of Tuesday, but this is where it's going to end up. If you think our side has problems, the Dems have absolutely *nobody* if Biden doesn't run.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 11, 2022 02:54 PM (Zqchx)

526 James Woods@RealJamesWoods
Only one clear truth emerged from this election: this country is evenly divided and each side thinks the other is literally insane.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (FVME7

I wonder how that ends?

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at November 11, 2022 02:54 PM (I05J2)

527 479 294 continued from the last thread:

I understand how Alaska's dumbass system works. What I don't understand is why they haven't yet figured out who won.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 11, 2022 02:29 PM (TgBWG)

Nobody knows how to put formulas into an Excel Spreadcheat? (yeah... spelled dat way on purpose).
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:48 PM (oHd/0)
________
When I was taught spreadsheets, it was Lotus. Which I preferred.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 11, 2022 02:54 PM (TgBWG)

528 How long before Monopoly has to remove/edit the "You have won second prize in a beauty contest. Collect $10" card?

Posted by: Chuck C at November 11, 2022 02:54 PM (xttsV)

529 A guy I'm with just pointed out that it looks like even the NY Post is now dunking on Trump. They're calling him Trumpty Dumpty. Lol
Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:53 PM (eacmp)

Post is also owned by Murdoch

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2022 02:54 PM (dO/0d)

530 Trump didn’t even have the JV experience and look what he did…

Posted by: Piper at November 11, 2022 02:54 PM (ZdaMQ)

531 meanwhile DeSantis says nothing, which is the 100% perfect play, and Trump keeps babbling because he doesn't even realize that he sounds crazy and not-in-control-of-himself with his ranting and raving.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (C1Zwz)

yes... This is what turned me off of Trump...The outrageous attacks especially against Youngkin.. Doesn't mean I won't vote for him if he gets the nod...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 02:54 PM (bs+z0)

532
But would they have the energy needed to fight battles day in and day out, to make substantive change in an entire country?
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (oHd/0)

At age 76, my mother would have.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 11, 2022 02:54 PM (BdMk6)

533 I wonder how that ends?
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at November 11, 2022 02:54 PM (I05J2)
___

Not good.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (OCK3i)

534 And I remain convinced that the Ryans and McConnells and CoC types don't want Trump OR De Santis to be the nominee.
They would prefer a Youngkin or Tim Scott or Nicki Haley
==
Tanned Ready and Rested

Posted by: Jeb! at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (cBaCg)

535 I've always been a big supporter of Donald Trump but now he's gone too far. It's time we look at alternatives to lead the Party, like Evan McCullin or a remorseful Liz Cheney.

Posted by: Andrew McCarthy at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (lm3XL)

536 My guess is Trump thought he had a deal with Ron. He helped him get the governors job and expected his backing for a run in 2024 in return and to date Ron has not complied. Trump values loyalty over everything. I don't think he needed to come out with such a strong statement but it's not rocking my world. I'm old enough to remember when Bush supporters spread a rumor about McCain's daughter in South Carolina. Politics is a rough business.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (ZLI7S)

I definitely agree that Don thought he had an understanding with Ron about 2024

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (mR6Gs)

537 meanwhile DeSantis says nothing, which is the 100% perfect play, and Trump keeps babbling because he doesn't even realize that he sounds crazy and not-in-control-of-himself with his ranting and raving.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (C1Zwz)

Sometimes, the only way to win, is not to play

Posted by: JOSHUA at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (oHd/0)

538 Trump values loyalty over everything. I don't think he needed to come out with such a strong statement but it's not rocking my world. I'm old enough to remember when Bush supporters spread a rumor about McCain's daughter in South Carolina. Politics is a rough business.
Posted by: JackStraw

I also value loyalty. Trump has earned mine many times over.I think DeSantis is great but I don't live in Florida.
I know that's not a completely rational argument but it's how I am.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (2xlV3)

539 "His last two broadsides were aimed at Republicans."

Why?

Did it have anything to do with interference with forward motion. He spent a fortune, his every day, and blood, and sweat to move the Party into winning shape.

So he punches a Lincoln Project friend, one who would not be governor if not for him, a turn coat. Ron needs to "get in line".


Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (xcd1u)

540 meanwhile DeSantis says nothing, which is the 100% perfect play, and Trump keeps babbling because he doesn't even realize that he sounds crazy and not-in-control-of-himself with his ranting and raving.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (C1Zwz)

Bush-style politics. Just saying.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (eYoxG)

541 I've got my opinions but...we aren't quite done with the '22 election and we are spending way to much time on this one topic.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2022 02:51 PM (ESjRY)


You don't like Glorious Flamewar?

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (OLVeZ)

542 Ok, going to risk having Ace yell at me. Preface that I don't disagree with you Ace, I'm just a realist.

Oz lost PA because Trump voters didn't vote for him. Go look at the votes in SW PA, the T, and NE PA. The Trump working class didn't turn out.

There is a large group of working class voters, especially in the rust belt, that doesn't trust the GOP. Right now, they will vote for Trump, or they won't vote. Before 2016, they didn't vote.

So if you want their votes, you can either run Trump, or you need to find someone else that they trust. I get being tired of Trump, I'm tired of him too. I hate they way he attacks other Republicans who should be his allies, I've hated that crap since 2015.

But the reality is he brings in votes that the GOP can't get any other way, right now. So if we are going to get rid of Trump, there is a price to pay for that.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (5p7BC)

543 Ace, I'm sitting here with a bunch of guys, veterans, who have been complete Trump supporters and they are agreeing with everything you've written.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (eacmp)

544 And DeSantis, for a more obvious example.

People who support Trump want to pretend he IS GOPe to continue this idea that "We can only choose Trump or GOPe."

that was the argument in 2015. It was a TRUE claim in 2015.

It is NOT true now.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:44 PM (C1Zwz)

I never said DeSantis was GOPe. Although, there are concerns based on what one of his big donors said. That though is balanced against the good he has done in Florida. My point is that piling on of Trump looks bad. It feels more like a proxy to attack what the base wants. That's why there is pushback. There aren't reasoned articles out there going "Trump is past his prime to run in 2024. He did a lot of good. He opened the door. It is time for some younger blood to continue the fight." Then though you get to the problem that there isn't much younger blood to continue the fight. DeSantis, probably. Younkin, doubtful. ???

Posted by: WiNO at November 11, 2022 02:56 PM (EpDzw)

545 Sorry, but you are missing the point. Trump's last two broadsides were aimed at Republicans.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
------------------------------
I don't particularly care and I don't think most voters do. It is the political class that cares deeply about these issues because they invest in it. GOP is worse about tone policing than the Dems but the GOP is really sloppy about it with their patented Conservative Media hitjob the day after the election. No one really seems to say much about that now. Who funded it?, who coordinated it?, how was the GOP party officials involved? No one seems at all curious about that.

There is an old courtroom common law saying--he who comes to court must have clean hands.

Conservative and Main St. Media don't. GOP officeholders by and large don't, and neither do party officials, etc. So they can take their opinion and blow it out their ass for all I care. So
I will wait and see in Dec. 2023 who to support and I am ignoring the rest of it until then.

Actions over words.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:56 PM (CXr4y)

546 >>> THIS THIS THIS. I made a similar comment yesterday and advised not to take advice from your enemies. But the usual GOP circular firing squad is in place and firing away. And we don't even have the election results all in yet. The in-fighting over Trump or Not Trump is premature and counterproductive.

i actually do not want to fight about it which is why i am avoiding putting up anti-trump stuff -- evne just his rants, without commentary, would be "anti-trumP because it needs no commentary to be negative -- because I don't want to stir the shit.

I know people dig in when they feel pressured , and I do know there is a lot of PRESSURE coming from the NEverTrump/"elite" GOP media right now.

BTW, yes, that is happening. But it's not the ONLY thing that's happening. Apart from that coordinated Murdoch/NT/GOPe hit, there is a big shift from pro-trump to anti-trump in the Trump/maga grassroots.

i want to give people space to process all this but when I hear people making up conspiracy theories I'm not going to let that go.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:56 PM (C1Zwz)

547 Hawley, for example.

I thought she went squishy on something, just like Cruz and Crenshaw and Noem....

This whole Trump/DeSantis discussion is just reminding me of the days when R's were all about attracting the pro-abort wine moms because it was the pro-life position that was losing us votes...(and how pro-lifers got screwed because the GOPe never had any intention of actually defunding PP)

Posted by: Iris at November 11, 2022 02:56 PM (foa6+)

548 I definitely agree that Don thought he had an understanding with Ron about 2024
Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (mR6Gs)

But what set Trump off? DeSantis has made no public statements about running that I can find... especially after just getting re elected.

Posted by: JOSHUA at November 11, 2022 02:56 PM (oHd/0)

549 the Dems have absolutely *nobody* if Biden doesn't run.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 11, 2022 02:54 PM (Zqchx)

Anyone with a D can hit 270.

Easily.

Posted by: Fetterman at November 11, 2022 02:56 PM (I05J2)

550 Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:42 PM (C1Zwz)

I think when Trump went after Rubio (who was an AceHQ favorite not long before that) Cruz & Bush, he was more or less playing the character, & knew he was just doing it to insult & dismiss those he would beat. It was a way of getting attention, & honestly he had pretty funny lines.

His new attacks seem more like he's scared, as if someone is in his ear (Kushner or Roger Stone) telling him to start flailing wildly at everyone who could be a threat. I mean the Youngkin line is just dumb. He's going from the funny insult comic, to Michael Richards facing off with hecklers.

This seems desperate, & it's not going to do him any good in the primary, or general, because I'm not sure this time around a big enough group will hold their nose and vote for him. Maybe he'll pull all those Trump voters he got in 2016 who didn't vote Republican in 2012, but he'll lose just as much.

I'll still vote him over any Dem, but it's time he become the elder statesman of the party, pick young people who can take MAGA past 2030. (Also if he's indicted he's basically f'd the whole party if he starts kneecapping everyone)

Posted by: Rbastid at November 11, 2022 02:56 PM (Glq7j)

551 548 I definitely agree that Don thought he had an understanding with Ron about 2024
Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 02:55 PM (mR6Gs)

But what set Trump off? DeSantis has made no public statements about running that I can find... especially after just getting re elected.
Posted by: JOSHUA at November 11, 2022 02:56 PM (oHd/0)

It's all the people attacking Trump on DeSantis's behalf. IE surrogates.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 11, 2022 02:57 PM (eYoxG)

552 >>>Actions over words.

blackmail is an action

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 02:57 PM (C1Zwz)

553 The Donks' problem with messaging is they've been going with iron fist in an iron fist and it's supposed to be iron fist in a velvet glove.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:57 PM (FVME7)

554 also: does every weekday thread devolve to 'Trump yes/no' thread?

discuss

Posted by: DB at November 11, 2022 02:45 PM (geLO

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The HQ is always on the bleeding edge of conservative thought nationwide ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:57 PM (K3TEc)

555 Some people have realized the best way to respond to Trump's rankings is not at all. In fact that's the way you play an egomaniac. You don't give him the attention he craves. Baby.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 02:57 PM (eacmp)

556 DeSantis has made no public statements about running that I can find

No public statements. Politics is a sausage factory. Except worse because not only do you not want to see it being made, you don't like the final product either.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 11, 2022 02:57 PM (rHXb7)

557 445 I have an urge to puke

Been getting that a lot lately
Posted by: Nevergiveup


Are you pregnant?

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 11, 2022 02:58 PM (VYFTW)

558 I see miracles all around me
Stop and look around, it's all astounding
Water, fire, air and dirt
F'king beauty pageants, how do they work?

Posted by: Juggalo at November 11, 2022 02:58 PM (F5ekr)

559 Heh. I finally checked out a recent Marvel movie in the form of Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. Without Sam Raimi making things interesting visually, there'd be nothing to grasp onto. It was a mess, but Raimi worked his ass off to make it look fun, at least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:53 PM (LvTSG)
____________________________

I thought that was pretty good, better than most of the Marvel and other super-hero movies. But too much super-woke bullshit and a weak villain. And I was creeped out by how tight the girl's pants were. She was supposed to be what, like 15? Her pants were basically painted on, like they were trying to make a sexual object out of an underage girl. Weird and creepy.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 02:58 PM (iFTx/)

560 He won the hot dog eating contest, that must've put him over the top.

Posted by: DaveX64 - AWFLs smell like dryer sheets at November 11, 2022 02:58 PM (QrFBC)

561 The best thing for Trump right now is a suspension from his own website.. He is his own worst enemy

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 02:58 PM (bs+z0)

562 556 DeSantis has made no public statements about running that I can find

No public statements. Politics is a sausage factory. Except worse because not only do you not want to see it being made, you don't like the final product either.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 11, 2022 02:57 PM (rHXb7)

==========

"That's not a sausage...that's a piece of shit."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 02:58 PM (LvTSG)

563 They would prefer a Youngkin or Tim Scott or Nicki Haley.


Exactly.

Posted by: Lola at November 11, 2022 02:58 PM (NIYa7)

564 The HQ is always on the bleeding edge of conservative thought nationwide ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of The Kink at November 11, 2022 02:57 PM (K3TEc)

Used to be a smart Military Blog, but 'smart military' has become an oxymoron.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 02:58 PM (oHd/0)

565 Perusing the comments here, I decided that it would be best that I don't. When I take that route, it's a win for everybody involved. Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 11, 2022 02:58 PM (Xrfse)

566 Of course, exactly 3 days after a shitty midterm, the GOP engages in carpet bombing itself.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 11, 2022 02:59 PM (NjAfK)

567 iron fist in a velvet glove.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:57 PM (FVME7)

Rule by the Iron Sniff

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 02:59 PM (OLVeZ)

568



How many contestants did s/hit eat in the dressing room?

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 11, 2022 02:59 PM (91+c5)

569 Seems that Ben Shapiro's sugar daddy Jeremy Boering, and Dave Rubin are showing their elitist establishment asses about twitter. Not shocking.

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2022 02:59 PM (aRLgQ)

570 545 Sorry, but you are missing the point. Trump's last two broadsides were aimed at Republicans.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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And what do we do here on a daily basis?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 11, 2022 02:59 PM (BdMk6)

571 Da Plane Boss! Da Plane!

Posted by: Tattoo at November 11, 2022 02:59 PM (R/m4+)

572 - I'm hearing this from EVERYONE. It's a preference cascade.
==
If that is true, then this is a self correcting problem. No reason even for a bit of angst, let alone all caps attacks. The cascade will work its magic and Trump will fade of his own accord. No point in getting ahead of that which will happen on its own. So maybe you aren't convinced it will happen on its own.

Not sure why this is the time to declare your love. I mean at one point you were shagging rubio's garbage. Hold your fire.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 11, 2022 02:59 PM (QSuDT)

573 Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 02:56 PM (CXr4y)

I like your style, whigman

Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 02:59 PM (us2H3)

574 566 Of course, exactly 3 days after a shitty midterm, the GOP engages in carpet bombing itself.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 11, 2022 02:59 PM (NjAfK)

That goes without saying

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 02:59 PM (bs+z0)

575 James Woods@RealJamesWoods
Only one clear truth emerged from this election: this country is evenly divided and each side thinks the other is literally insane.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (FVME7

I wonder how that ends?
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic

Badly unless either Jesus or Klaatu comes down.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 11, 2022 02:59 PM (FVME7)

576 BOMBSHELL ALERT BOMBSHELL ALERT FROM ARIZONA Big news in lakes Twitter go watch it immediately.

Posted by: Genzconservativist at November 11, 2022 03:00 PM (pmoqr)

577

Rule of the Iron Snizz

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 11, 2022 03:00 PM (91+c5)

578 And what do we do here on a daily basis?

Look at Alex Daddario's big....blue eyes?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2022 03:00 PM (ESjRY)

579 559 I thought that was pretty good, better than most of the Marvel and other super-hero movies. But too much super-woke bullshit and a weak villain. And I was creeped out by how tight the girl's pants were. She was supposed to be what, like 15? Her pants were basically painted on, like they were trying to make a sexual object out of an underage girl. Weird and creepy.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 02:58 PM (iFTx/)

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I didn't think it was all that concerned with being woke or anything. The stuff about Dr. Strange playing second fiddle to America Chavez were overblown (America is literally tied up for most of the finale).

The script was just all over the place, didn't really use its multiverse concept very well, and didn't really have any kind of core to guide the action through the plot. Raimi alone, through sheer force of will, made it watchable. I love zombie Dr. Strange and Wanda's tear through the Illuminati.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 03:00 PM (LvTSG)

580
It's all the people attacking Trump on DeSantis's behalf. IE surrogates.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 11, 2022 02:57 PM (eYoxG)


If that's the case it makes Trump seem even worse, because he's falling for every trap put in his way. Want to make Trump pload or take out every viable conservative candidate, then just trickle out little lies about that candidate saying something mean about Trump and he'll go scorched earth on them.

I mean for the love of God, he was President but still had the thinnest skin of anyone on earth. If someone says something bad about you, suck it up and remember it later if they come for favors (like he did with Romney) don't make yourself look like an unhinged ass to people you need to vote for you.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 11, 2022 03:00 PM (Glq7j)

581 {491} After that, there's little left to do but sing a hymn to SMOD...

Posted by: Rowsdower Believes Epps Is A Fed at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (Jo6nR)


That was brilliant.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 11, 2022 03:00 PM (nRMeC)

582 >>> Ace, I'm sitting here with a bunch of guys, veterans, who have been complete Trump supporters and they are agreeing with everything you've written.

i'm plugged in with several big grassroots organizations and I'm hearing this a lot. I've been telling myself "this stuff doesn't matter, the public isn't bothered by it" but I don't think I can keep saying that.

and I really do not like the lowness, the absolute baseness, the vileness, of blackmail, or how giddily enthusiastic trump is about going there.

btw I don't care about what he thinks he knows. The public gave him a pass on multiple allegaions of rape, and gave Hershel Walker a pass (largely) on lots of allegations. Trump has created an environment in which this stuff gets shrugged at -- but he thinks the public is going to go crazy if "Ron DeSanctimonious" is alleged to have once stuck his dick in strange?

But it's so low to be blackmailer. It's so repulsive.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:00 PM (C1Zwz)

583 Trump should spend his time organizing the base. His people will be more motivated to change than Club GOPe. He should not run for anything.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at November 11, 2022 03:00 PM (b+v9B)

584 What blackmail thing?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 11, 2022 03:01 PM (2xlV3)

585 I have an urge to puke

Been getting that a lot lately
Posted by: Nevergiveup


Are you pregnant?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 11, 2022 02:58 PM (VYFTW)



LOL, no. Actually I am 18 pounds under Max Allowable weight. I am slim and trim and ready to rock and roll

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2022 03:01 PM (dO/0d)

586 Gallagher heard about this and it killed him.
"Comedian Gallagher, famously known for smashing watermelons as part of his legendary act, has died ... his longtime manager tells TMZ."

Posted by: Rhet Waif at November 11, 2022 03:01 PM (dzZCL)

587 But the usual GOP circular firing squad is in place and firing away. And we don't even have the election results all in yet. The in-fighting over Trump or Not Trump is premature and counterproductive. It's what the left WANTS us to do, and we are falling into their trap.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 02:50 PM (iFTx/)
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This in-fighting is not brought on by the Left. It was by Trump. He wants it.

Posted by: WisRich at November 11, 2022 03:01 PM (G0vdT)

588 " I hate they way he attacks other Republicans who should be his allies, I've hated that crap since 2015."

If they were his allies he wouldn't attack them.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:01 PM (xcd1u)

589 Although, there are concerns based on what one of his big donors said.

I mean, taking someone's money, winning, and then fucking them over is a long proud tradition in American politics.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 11, 2022 03:01 PM (ZGrMX)

590 Kevin Conroy epic voice of Batman in games and the Animated Series (as well as other work) has, sadly, died at age 66

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:01 PM (Ivdso)

591 Whom did Trump try to blackmail? I haven’t heard about this.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (atmen)

592 445 I have an urge to puke

Been getting that a lot lately
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Are you pregnant?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 11, 2022 02:58 PM (VYFTW)
........

Looks like the guy in the pageant photo is.

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (v0R5T)

593 It's all the people attacking Trump on DeSantis's behalf. IE surrogates.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 11, 2022 02:57 PM (eYoxG)

Yeah, but Trump WELL knows the media lies all the damn time... makes false allegations. He KNOWS he is constantly attacked with lies... and he KNOWS other politicians are as well (look at his statements about Kari Lake). Ane he also knows the Media is trying to divide us.

This attacks towards DeSantis seem out of proportion to me. Someone got to Trump.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (oHd/0)

594 I voted for Trump twice, and I like DeSantis a lot. It would be nice if Trump would turn positive, telling the people what he would do, rather than slinging mud. If he shut up for a while, went away, let whoever wants to announce do so, then came in much later, like he did on the escalator, he would have a better chance. What he is doing now is not helping and is turning people like me off.

Posted by: DJ at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (O3/K+)

595 589 I mean, taking someone's money, winning, and then fucking them over is a long proud tradition in American politics.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 11, 2022 03:01 PM (ZGrMX)

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It has been forgotten over the past few decades, though. It is a lost art.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (LvTSG)

596 >>BTW, yes, that is happening. But it's not the ONLY thing that's happening. Apart from that coordinated Murdoch/NT/GOPe hit, there is a big shift from pro-trump to anti-trump in the Trump/maga grassroots.

I don't know thats true. I know some of the people who were already moving on from Trump have increased their volume but they don't speak for everyone.

I want to win in 2024 and I want to win with someone who I am confident will do virtually everything I want. Right now that person is Trump. If DeSantis or someone else, again, DeSantis is not the only other person besides Trump who could run, turns out to be a better option then so be it, I will support them.

DeSantis has done a great job. In Florida. I've seen no evidence his influence is anywhere near Trump's on a national basis and he sure didn't help himself by endorsing the most anti-Trump Republican not named Liz Cheney who ran this cycle.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (ZLI7S)

597 498...Even RogerEbert.com only gave this piece of dogshit ond and a half stars.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 11, 2022 02:51 PM (H+3IP)

If the trailer is boring and of- putting, you know it's a dog.

But we don't go are movies anymore. Why give money to those who hate me and mine?

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (Rbu5d)

598 There is a large group of working class voters, especially in the rust belt, that doesn't trust the GOP. Right now, they will vote for Trump, or they won't vote. Before 2016, they didn't vote.
__

Hooah.

And as a commenter stated as drove through Texas and the Midwest from the TxMoMee, he was gobsmacked by all the Trump signs everywhere. These people will stay home rather than vote for another squish.

IMHO, Trump is tapdancing on his own dick with cleats on. It's sad to see.
That said, there will be no fair elections with VBM, early voting, and ballot harvesting, but like Dave has stated, it's a Catch-22.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (OCK3i)

599 The only ones happy about trump feuding with other republicans are biden pelosi and schumer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (dO/0d)

600 591 Whom did Trump try to blackmail? I haven’t heard about this.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (atmen)

DeSantis

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (bs+z0)

601 And what do we do here on a daily basis?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 11, 2022 02:59 PM (BdMk6)

There is a huge difference between the cobloggers writing their opinions (on an opinion blog!) and Donald Trump taking shots at two of the three highest profile and successful Republican governors in the country.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (XIJ/X)

602 BTW, Youngkin is definitely running against Trump in 2024.

At the Stefanowski fundraiser I went to in CT last month, both Bob and the host brought up the possibility, and Youngkin didn't demur. At all.

He's one and done in VA, and he has a very visible bench that he can leave to finish the work he's started.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (Zqchx)

603 if you ditch trump

fine

but take responsibilty for it when it craters

Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (us2H3)

604 Guys staying silent in the face of accusations is never a winning play in politics. You need to change the narrative. We don't need people pretending everything DeSantis does or doesn't do is genius politics.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (eYoxG)

605 The stuff about Dr. Strange playing second fiddle to America Chavez were overblown (America is literally tied up for most of the finale).

Right, he's second fiddle to The Scarlet Witch, who drives the plot and is the main character.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:03 PM (Ivdso)

606 LOL, no. Actually I am 18 pounds under Max Allowable weight. I am slim and trim and ready to rock and roll
Posted by: Nevergiveup


That's hot.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 11, 2022 03:03 PM (VYFTW)

607 China was ruled by Octogenarians before Marxism took over. Wonder if this is a repeatable pattern throughout history of dying empires and countries.

Posted by: Willie Jeff C. at November 11, 2022 03:03 PM (qu6IK)

608 597 If the trailer is boring and of- putting, you know it's a dog.

But we don't go are movies anymore. Why give money to those who hate me and mine?
Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (Rbu5d)

=========

The trailer is all about people grieving over Boseman's death. It assumed a connection to an actor in the audience that I find questionable.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 03:03 PM (LvTSG)

609 We obviously need to nominate someone with brain damage or Dementia or possibly dead since what's important is the quality of the candidate.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 11, 2022 03:03 PM (lm3XL)

610 576 BOMBSHELL ALERT BOMBSHELL ALERT FROM ARIZONA Big news in lakes Twitter go watch it immediately.
Posted by: Genzconservativist at November 11, 2022 03:00 PM (pmoqr)

Lake and pretty much everyone knew how they did it... They Adjudicate and "Cure."

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 03:03 PM (OLVeZ)

611 Actually I am 18 pounds under Max Allowable weight. I am slim and trim and ready to rock and roll
Posted by: Nevergiveup


That's hot.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 11, 2022 03:03 PM (VYFTW)

Nah at my age things are sagging a wee bit LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (dO/0d)

612 556 DeSantis has made no public statements about running that I can find

No public statements. Politics is a sausage factory. Except worse because not only do you not want to see it being made, you don't like the final product either.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire
------------------------------

Slipping out the window and sleeping around.

Just like Billy Jeff when he was Gov of AR.
DeSantis security could tell you a tale of
duplicity.



Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (xcd1u)

613 But what set Trump off? DeSantis has made no public statements about running that I can find... especially after just getting re elected.

Posted by: JOSHUA at November 11, 2022 02:56 PM (oHd/0)

Again, DeSantis has said "no plans to run against Trump in 2024," in January 2022, IIRC. At the same time, he appears to be amassing a 2024 warchest, while the Paul Ryan GOPers are chanting no Trump in 2024. DeSantis could clear things up real quick.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (yHsuS)

614 >>>If that is true, then this is a self correcting problem. No reason even for a bit of angst, let alone all caps attacks. The cascade will work its magic and Trump will fade of his own accord. No point in getting ahead of that which will happen on its own.

do you not get that when someone says, broadly, that everyone "attacking Trump" is doing so because they've been activated as part of a GOPe coordinated hit, that includes me? That I'm being included in this nefarious conspiracy?

Do you see why I'd like to rebut that and say, "No, there are, believe it or not, sensible and organic reasons to be getting off the Trump Train that don't involve bribery from the GOPe"?

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (C1Zwz)

615 I was surprised that Grace Curley was exasperated by the Desanctimoniuos comment.
DeSantis is what we want Trump to be: polished, coherent and focused.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (b+v9B)

616 591 Whom did Trump try to blackmail? I haven’t heard about this.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (atmen)

DeSantis
Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (bs+z0)
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Is this the "I know things that wouldn't look good for DeSantis" comment?

Posted by: WisRich at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (G0vdT)

617 605 The stuff about Dr. Strange playing second fiddle to America Chavez were overblown (America is literally tied up for most of the finale).

Right, he's second fiddle to The Scarlet Witch, who drives the plot and is the main character.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:03 PM (Ivdso)

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And people complained that Scarlet Witch threw away all the character growth from the show. I didn't mind that. Scarlet Witch was an evil bitch in the show, and her feeling sorry for it at the end didn't absolve her of anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (LvTSG)

618 SNOPES, Fact Check, 11/11:

Kari Lake Did Not Concede on Twitter, Despite Tweet from 'Verified' Parody Impersonation Account

"It is with heavy heart that I must concede to my opponent, Katie Hobbs," the parody tweet read.

Posted by: Lola at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (NIYa7)

619 I don't think it is Kushner or Stone. I think the Deep State knows exactly how to trigger Trump, and he is falling for it.

Sad, but it is one of the big downsides of Trump, and I would love there to be an alternative that Trump wouldn't try to destroy.

The only good thing so far is that DeSantis and Youngkin aren't taking the bait.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 03:05 PM (5p7BC)

620
Is this the "I know things that wouldn't look good for DeSantis" comment?
Posted by: WisRich at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (G0vdT)

I think so

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 03:05 PM (bs+z0)

621 This whole Trump/DeSantis discussion is just reminding me of the days when R's were all about attracting the pro-abort wine moms because it was the pro-life position that was losing us votes...(and how pro-lifers got screwed because the GOPe never had any intention of actually defunding PP)

Posted by: Iris at November 11, 2022 02:56 PM (foa6+)

Notice, they went all "abortion cost us the election" on Wednesday. They would probably vote with the Dems on a Federal law to enshrine abortion.

Posted by: WiNO at November 11, 2022 03:05 PM (EpDzw)

622 i dunno, maybe I'm not supposed to take the conspiracy theories literally or seriously? Maybe they're just meant more vaguely?

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:05 PM (C1Zwz)

623 Even RogerEbert.com only gave this piece of dogshit ond and a half stars.

The problem for Wakanda Forever is that they bought into their own hype, and think that everyone really did like Black Panther as much as they pretended to, so the sequel had to be huge when all those fans returned.

Except they weren't that enthusiastic, Black Panther was a 2 3/4 stars out of 5, and this movie doesn't even HAVE the Black Panther in it, just his kid sister in a costume 2 hours into the movie.

This is like having Jar Jar Binks be the main pull for the second prequel, then not even be there, and someone wears a Jar Jar onesie but the film is too long and nobody cares.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:05 PM (Ivdso)

624 "It is with heavy heart that I must concede to my opponent, Katie Hobbs," the parody tweet read.
Posted by: Lola at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (NIYa7)

I doubt she would give up that easily

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 03:05 PM (bs+z0)

625 520 I've got my opinions but...we aren't quite done with the '22 election and we are spending way to much time on this one topic.
Posted by: 18-1
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You are aware of who's driving this conversation?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:05 PM (xcd1u)

626 Normally I have chicken and cheddar sammich.
Today is salami and provolone. mmm.

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2022 03:05 PM (v0R5T)

627 Fox is now braodcasting from the Maricopa County Election Center and Nail Salon and Tire Wholesaler.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 11, 2022 03:06 PM (lz5hY)

628 Heh. I finally checked out a recent Marvel movie in the form of Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness.

What in the world are you talking about, young man?

I have no recollection at all of being in a movie by that name.

...

Unless...

Maybe you're talking about that time I showed up at Marvel Studios for about 5, maybe 6 minutes and...

Well, seriously I can barely remember being there...if that was a movie...well, okay, whatever you say.

I think I was talking to Porthole Girl...she was bottomless except for some acrylic spray on paint that looked like pants.

Is that it? It's all a vague blur, man.

Posted by: Dr Strange at November 11, 2022 03:06 PM (KLPy8)

629 603 if you ditch trump

fine

but take responsibilty for it when it craters
Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (us2H3)
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What's the "it"?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 11, 2022 03:06 PM (F5ekr)

630 Kevin Conroy epic voice of Batman in games and the Animated Series (as well as other work) has, sadly, died at age 66
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022


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I first spotted him as a regular on the old daytime soap Search For Tomorrow in about '84-'85. That was 38 years ago (gulp!). So back then he was 28? Makes sense, as the majority of soap actors and actresses are youngish. Though SFT was a bit different: Not everybody on the show was perfect and glossy or has perfect white teeth, and two of the old regulars from the 1950s still showed up from time to time.

Conroy was impressive even then. When I saw his name linked with the Batman series, I knew it had to be the same guy.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 11, 2022 03:06 PM (J2vNu)

631 What did Trump say to/about DeSantis that constitutes blackmail?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 03:06 PM (atmen)

632 Sorry, I didn't know what this thread was actually about.

I'm saying this as someone who voted Trump twice, and won't vote for anyone next time, but for reasons unrelated to "candidate quality," as the new euphemism goes. This is just an observation from someone with no skin in the game.

I know I like Trump, and so far, I think I like DeSantis. And ace is right about DeSantis keeping quiet in this case being the right play.

But what the hell else would you expect from Trump? His whole thing is always just going straight to the mattresses any time someone challenges him. I think ace is wrong about him being insane - this is who Trump's always been. I liked it in the past and still like it today.

That said, DeSantis seems good. Particularly because he belled the Disney rat. That was really, really cool. Humbling those freaks was a highlight of the last year.

I wish they could get along, but Trump probably can't countenance the competition. He could end up making amends, but I doubt DeSantis, for his part, will kiss the ring like Cruz did.

They'd be better together than as enemies. But it is what it is.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 11, 2022 03:06 PM (oINRc)

633 616 591 Whom did Trump try to blackmail? I haven’t heard about this.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (atmen)

DeSantis
Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (bs+z0)
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Is this the "I know things that wouldn't look good for DeSantis" comment?
Posted by: WisRich at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (G0vdT)

Which is contrary to what people have been saying, not an own goal. Trump's tax returns. Russia. PeePee hookers. These didn't help Trump, they hurt him, though he fought them reasonably effectively.

It doesn't magically become an advantage for DeSantis to be smeared.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 11, 2022 03:06 PM (eYoxG)

634 Looks like Haas is going to get an F1 pole for the Brazilian GP sprint race in rain-affected qualifying.

Posted by: spindrift at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (h5TKJ)

635 I voted for Trump twice, and I like DeSantis a lot. It would be nice if Trump would turn positive, telling the people what he would do, rather than slinging mud. If he shut up for a while, went away, let whoever wants to announce do so, then came in much later, like he did on the escalator, he would have a better chance. What he is doing now is not helping and is turning people like me off.

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You gotta take the good with the bad regarding Trump. He's what he is, and sometimes he's great and sometimes he makes me cringe and I just wish he'd shut his mouth. He's a package deal when it comes to his personality.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (sVtYq)

636 527 479 294 continued from the last thread:

I understand how Alaska's dumbass system works. What I don't understand is why they haven't yet figured out who won.

Posted by: Eeyore
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I think, this is from memory of previous races, that any mail ballot postmarked on election day counts (and no, the Dem still has no chance of winning)--it will be Murk or Murk version II according to Rodrigo. They cannot start the whole process until the votes are received. Last election, I think it was technically near December before Alaska certified.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (CXr4y)

637 MY take on the Trump Blathering? IF he thinks he gets to go uncontested straight to the Presidential GE then he is Greatly mistaken.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (OLVeZ)

638 The only good thing so far is that DeSantis and Youngkin aren't taking the bait.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 03:05 PM (5p7BC)

And no one is claiming Trump is playing eleventy chess with this bullshit.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (mR6Gs)

639 >>> At least right now, with my relatively small in-person sample set, there is a visceral reaction against Trump. Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 11, 2022 02:49 PM (Zqchx)


People don't like losers. Fair or unfair doesn't have anything to do with it. It's the instinct to avoid eye contact and look down around a person that has lost big. You can't break that deep instinct without owning the media and the public square. Yes trump was robbed and treated horribly. And yes many conspired to try completely destroy him. And maybe they were successful. Yes Biden is also a loser and has been pantsed on the national stage many times. But we're not playing on a level field.

A large portion of Trump's support came from the belief he was unstoppable in spite of all the left's advantages. Those days are gone. A large fraction of leftist support for whatever muppet they put up is based on the belief that they are unstoppable. With lots of direct proof to back up that belief. Again things aren't level.

We need a type of assymetrical warfare to win and I don't think Trump can provide that anymore.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (0fVbu)

640 Again, DeSantis has said "no plans to run against Trump in 2024," in January 2022, IIRC. At the same time, he appears to be amassing a 2024 warchest, while the Paul Ryan GOPers are chanting no Trump in 2024. DeSantis could clear things up real quick.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (yHsuS)

Yeah, you do know DeSantis is a bit busy? Just had an election THIS WEEK... and another hurricane just hit?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (oHd/0)

641 Sure seems that there are a lot of men pushing women out of their spaces and back towards the kitchen. But as long as the men says they are women I guess it is ok to ask the woman to make them a samich.

Posted by: Bete at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (amJqM)

642 Not sure ever saw Gallagher do something that was funny

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (xhxe8)

643 This happen two towns over from where I live. I weep for this once great State.

Posted by: Freedomlost at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (izSU0)

644 also: does every weekday thread devolve to 'Trump yes/no' thread?

discuss
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Yes; three years -- even if DeSantis says "I'm staying Gov. for four years", and a year after the 2024 election.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (yikp0)

645

Is the Scarlet Witch a good witch or a bad witch?

Posted by: Pimp Glenda at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (91+c5)

646 Kari Lake Did Not Concede on Twitter, Despite Tweet from 'Verified' Parody Impersonation Account

Someone set up a fake Eli Lilly account and paid $8 for the checkmark and then posted that going forward, insulin would be free. All of the Big Pharma stocks immediately crashed. I love it.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (ZGrMX)

647
Is Ace going LGF?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (xcd1u)

648 The threat:

But Mr. Trump added, in remarks published on Tuesday by The Wall Street Journal, "If he did run, I will tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering. I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife, who is really running his campaign."

The former president, preparing to announce a rare candidacy for the White House after a defeat, was thus openly threatening to smear the person who would be considered his leading rival, should he choose to run.

...

He did say this. 1, Maggie Haberman reported it, who Trump is on the phone with most nights. He won't stop talking to her. 2, He said it to a bunch of reporters, one of whom is someone you all know and trust and in fact love, who confirmed it to me the day it was leaked, days ahead of the election. (It was supposed to be embargoed until after the election.)

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (C1Zwz)

649 It assumed a connection to an actor in the audience that I find questionable.

It also assumes that people who liked the CHARACTER of Black Panther felt that connection and love of the ACTOR that played the character.

Dude. James Bond has been played by six actors (seven, if you include the David Niven portrayal in the spoof). Audiences are okay if you change the actor, he's not sacred. Nobody even blinked when they swapped Terence Howard out for Don Cheadle in Iron Man.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (Ivdso)

650 What's the "it"?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO

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I think he means massive GOP losses.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (CXr4y)

651 >>Again, DeSantis has said "no plans to run against Trump in 2024," in January 2022, IIRC. At the same time, he appears to be amassing a 2024 warchest, while the Paul Ryan GOPers are chanting no Trump in 2024. DeSantis could clear things up real quick.

He was asked point blank in his debate with Crist if he would commit to serving his term as governor and not run for president and he didn't answer. Well he didn't answer that question, he answered a question that wasn't asked.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (ZLI7S)

652 Is the Scarlet Witch a good witch or a bad witch?
Posted by: Pimp Glenda at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (91+c5)

i'm going with naughty...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (Mkvkw)

653 MY take on the Trump Blathering? IF he thinks he gets to go uncontested straight to the Presidential GE then he is Greatly mistaken.
Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (OLVeZ)

Yup, and this bugs him.

But whoever gets the nomination is going to need Trump's supporters. Remember, Trump brought people into the process who never voted before

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (mR6Gs)

654 I love Trump, but DeSantis is pretty good.

I mean whether you want Trump or not, you have to admit DeSantis is the greatest governor we've had in a long time.

Probably the greatest ever. In fact, probably the greatest politician ever.

Probably, and I don't want to sound hyperbolic here, but he just might be the greatest human being that has ever walked the face of the planet, if not the greatest life force in the entire universe.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (vwMFL)

655
We obviously need to nominate someone with brain damage or Dementia or possibly dead since what's important is the quality of the candidate.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 11, 2022 03:03 PM


It's an interesting hypothesis that more than 50.1% of the population is voting for chaos. Which again hypothetically accounts for Trumps first success. People thought he would bring chaos and they wanted to be entertained.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (y3pKJ)

656 not a good sign for Kari

Cook calls the race for Kelly

Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (us2H3)

657 617 605 The stuff about Dr. Strange playing second fiddle to America Chavez were overblown (America is literally tied up for most of the finale).

Right, he's second fiddle to The Scarlet Witch, who drives the plot and is the main character.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:03 PM (Ivdso)

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And people complained that Scarlet Witch threw away all the character growth from the show. I didn't mind that. Scarlet Witch was an evil bitch in the show, and her feeling sorry for it at the end didn't absolve her of anything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 03:04 PM (LvTSG)
____________________

The wokeness I was referring to was also the gratuitous lesbianism, the race- and gender-swapping of established characters, the "single moms are awesome" theme, and that overall the male characters were mostly impotent or comic relief. But as my comment above indicated, I thought overall the movie was pretty good.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 03:09 PM (iFTx/)

658 646 Someone set up a fake Eli Lilly account and paid $8 for the checkmark and then posted that going forward, insulin would be free. All of the Big Pharma stocks immediately crashed. I love it.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (ZGrMX)

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Good.

Not because Big Pharma hurt (that's just a bonus), but because Twitter should be looked at with extreme suspicion at all times.

Something happening on Twitter should mean nothing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 03:09 PM (LvTSG)

659 There is a huge difference between the cobloggers writing their opinions (on an opinion blog!) and Donald Trump taking shots at two of the three highest profile and successful Republican governors in the country.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (XIJ/X)

So you're saying because Trump has more readership, it should preclude him from expressing an opinion?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 11, 2022 03:09 PM (BdMk6)

660 DeSantis has done a great job. In Florida. I've seen no evidence his influence is anywhere near Trump's on a national basis and he sure didn't help himself by endorsing the most anti-Trump Republican not named Liz Cheney who ran this cycle.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (ZLI7S)

And the guy lost bigly. Put it in the tally box for the later total. So far Trump wins a lot, and loses a few because the Dems spend huge resources and cheat to boot. But whoever wins is going to have to come to MAGA and placate that wing somehow, because if the MSM and Dems can't bully them out of existence nobody can. A way to do that is come up with a platform and start working on candidates that many can accept, and get rid of the current GOPe leadership

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 03:09 PM (eoQWY)

661 Eh, not much sympathy fo0r those girls.

If they all walk out at showtime until the mental patient is escorted out of the studio and refused entry.

Then the show goes on as normal.

They cooperated in their own beclowning.

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (KLPy8)

662 I think trump lost the popular vote in 2020. And I think he lost it, not because people voted FOR biden, but because they wanted the screeching to stop.

Trump will not win. Because people don't want to hear the screeching again.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (If76Y)

663 and her feeling sorry for it at the end didn't absolve her of anything.

And the red flash at the end was her surviving the collapsing tons of stone. She'll be back, somehow, and dozens will care.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (Ivdso)

664 649 It also assumes that people who liked the CHARACTER of Black Panther felt that connection and love of the ACTOR that played the character.

Dude. James Bond has been played by six actors (seven, if you include the David Niven portrayal in the spoof). Audiences are okay if you change the actor, he's not sacred. Nobody even blinked when they swapped Terence Howard out for Don Cheadle in Iron Man.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (Ivdso)

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I'll avoid my normal rant about movie stars being a myth, and I'll just say that today's audience seems connected to brands more than any individual actor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (LvTSG)

665 656 not a good sign for Kari

Cook calls the race for Kelly
Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (us2H3)

He was way behind

Posted by: It's me donna at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (bs+z0)

666 >>>Again, DeSantis has said "no plans to run against Trump in 2024," in January 2022, IIRC. At the same time, he appears to be amassing a 2024 warchest, while the Paul Ryan GOPers are chanting no Trump in 2024. DeSantis could clear things up real quick.

you are taking "no plans to run" as a promise not to run?

Jesus.

Here Jack Let me clear this up for you: He is running. Okay?

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (C1Zwz)

667 Lincoln Project's Steve Schmidt's wife filed a restraining order against him.
https://tinyurl.com/2ygwqe94

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (lm3XL)

668 637 MY take on the Trump Blathering? IF he thinks he gets to go uncontested straight to the Presidential GE then he is Greatly mistaken.
Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (OLVeZ)

He's politicking precisely because he doesn't think he will be uncontested. Duh.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (eYoxG)

669 He did say this. 1, Maggie Haberman reported it, who Trump is on the phone with most nights. He won't stop talking to her. 2, He said it to a bunch of reporters, one of whom is someone you all know and trust and in fact love, who confirmed it to me the day it was leaked, days ahead of the election. (It was supposed to be embargoed until after the election.)

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (C1Zwz)

Why the fuck does he talk to Haberman?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (mR6Gs)

670 We obviously need to nominate someone with brain damage or Dementia or possibly dead since what's important is the quality of the candidate.

Eh, any lump will do.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 11, 2022 03:11 PM (Xrfse)

671 Not because Big Pharma hurt (that's just a bonus), but because Twitter should be looked at with extreme suspicion at all times.

Something happening on Twitter should mean nothing.


100%. They needed to learn that 5 years ago, but if this works, great.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 11, 2022 03:11 PM (ZGrMX)

672
Notice, they went all "abortion cost us the election" on Wednesday. They would probably vote with the Dems on a Federal law to enshrine abortion.
Posted by: WiNO at November 11, 2022 03:05 PM (EpDzw)

I kinda doubt it'll be federal legislation, given the nature of the Dobbs decision. Though, it's possible. Why not? We're in YOLO territory.

My expectation is that the GOP will cut state-level deals piecemeal, to resurrect RvW. This whole thing is a nightmare for them - they never in a million years expected that to happen, and they'll be backpedaling their half-century of cheap virtue signaling as hard as they can.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 11, 2022 03:11 PM (oINRc)

673 Cook calls the race for Kelly

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That's just peachy...

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 11, 2022 03:11 PM (sVtYq)

674 Lincoln Project's Steve Schmidt's wife filed a restraining order against him.

Let me guess, can't keep his hands off the kids?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:11 PM (Ivdso)

675 "Again, DeSantis has said "no plans to run against Trump in 2024," in January 2022, IIRC. At the same time, he appears to be amassing a 2024 warchest, while the Paul Ryan GOPers are chanting no Trump in 2024. "

That's a dishonest conflation and you know it. It's exactly the kind of garbage devoid of facts and meant to obfuscate that some people are trying to push.

Yes, everyone but Trump is somehow connected to the establishment. It's troll level crap that's not even worthy of comment.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2022 03:11 PM (eacmp)

676 It looks like the fat four-eyed alien from Lilo and Stitch in a red muu-muu.

Posted by: David Gillies at November 11, 2022 03:11 PM (Jipp3)

677 Sure seems that there are a lot of men pushing women out of their spaces and back towards the kitchen. But as long as the men says they are women I guess it is ok to ask the woman to make them a samich.

You have to laugh. Women apparently fought to be liberated from men. For this. Enjoy your freedom, ladies.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 11, 2022 03:11 PM (KFhLj)

678 657 The wokeness I was referring to was also the gratuitous lesbianism, the race- and gender-swapping of established characters, the "single moms are awesome" theme, and that overall the male characters were mostly impotent or comic relief. But as my comment above indicated, I thought overall the movie was pretty good.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 03:09 PM (iFTx/)

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Who was gender swapped in this one? I just haven't heard of it, if so. I didn't really see a "single moms are awesome" theme going on. I didn't see anything about how Scarlet Witch alone would raise her children better than with Vision, or anything.

I'm defending this movie more than I want...I did like Scarlet Witch as the bad guy, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 03:12 PM (LvTSG)

679 Ace didn't want Trump the first time and he's trying to bludgeon Trump this time. Some things never change.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:12 PM (xcd1u)

680 Old and busted: "boys can like and play with girly stuff, and girls can like and play with boys stuff and that's okay, it doesn't mean anything"

New and Hot: "if a boy likes dolls they're secretly a girl and we should mangle them with drugs and surgery and call them Sue"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:12 PM (Ivdso)

681 DeSantis said he wasn't going to run if Trump did, yet Trump seems like he is trying to bait him like Obama did to Trump causing Trump to go all out.

This is like a movie where one character creates their own opponent, but the only lossers will be Republicans cause that battle will scar everyone. Hell, after that fight Joe could possibly win with (minimal) cheating rather than the all out needed Las time.

Posted by: Bete at November 11, 2022 03:12 PM (amJqM)

682 663 and her feeling sorry for it at the end didn't absolve her of anything.

And the red flash at the end was her surviving the collapsing tons of stone. She'll be back, somehow, and dozens will care.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (Ivdso)

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"Death means nothing! Next week, on the Marvel Show..."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 03:12 PM (LvTSG)

683 >>>Why the fuck does he talk to Haberman?


dude... I dunno. I think maybe just because he knows her from NY, I guess he used to talk to her before he was a politician. Also, and I know this is a point of contention, but Trump really does want establishment validation. He is an older guy; he still believes in brand names like the NYT.

there is an old joke about leaks from the Trump administration, and the joke is: "We know who the leaker is, it was Trump, talking to Maggie Haberman"

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (C1Zwz)

684 I nominate the fella in the pic at the top of the thread as "Miss Trump/DeSantis War"

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (fs1hN)

685 648 The threat:

But Mr. Trump added, in remarks published on Tuesday by The Wall Street Journal, "If he did run, I will tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering. I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife, who is really running his campaign."

The former president, preparing to announce a rare candidacy for the White House after a defeat, was thus openly threatening to smear the person who would be considered his leading rival, should he choose to run.

...

He did say this. 1, Maggie Haberman reported it, who Trump is on the phone with most nights. He won't stop talking to her. 2, He said it to a bunch of reporters, one of whom is someone you all know and trust and in fact love, who confirmed it to me the day it was leaked, days ahead of the election. (It was supposed to be embargoed until after the election.)

Posted by: ace
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Trump said it no doubt. But the question is whether or not it is true.
As far as the wife calling the shots, that came from an article--Daily Mail, I think that discussed here. https://tinyurl.com/42htwrs5

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (CXr4y)

686 669 He did say this. 1, Maggie Haberman reported it, who Trump is on the phone with most nights. He won't stop talking to her. 2, He said it to a bunch of reporters, one of whom is someone you all know and trust and in fact love, who confirmed it to me the day it was leaked, days ahead of the election. (It was supposed to be embargoed until after the election.)

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (C1Zwz)

Why the fuck does he talk to Haberman?
Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (mR6Gs)
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5-D chess, my man.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (F5ekr)

687 > New and Hot: "if a boy likes dolls they're secretly a girl and we should mangle them with drugs and surgery and call them Sue"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:12 PM (Ivdso)

Twitter meme: "Dear Mom and Dad: please don't cut my dick off just because I like the color pink."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (bW8dp)

688 not a good sign for Kari

Cook calls the race for Kelly
Posted by: REDACTED at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (us2H3)

What did Hobbs get one more vote and then they stopped counting?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (mR6Gs)

689 Yeah, you do know DeSantis is a bit busy? Just had an election THIS WEEK... and another hurricane just hit?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (oHd/0)

I'm not attacking the guy. I am just pointing out that this whole thing appears to be a political ploy to divide and conquer, and everyone is falling over their own dicks to gobble it up.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (yHsuS)

690 THERES BOMBSHELL IMFORMATION FRON ARIZONA. GO ON LAKES Twitter to see. But the tldr is we could pick up 51% of the remaining vote in Pima County.

Posted by: Genzconservativist at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (pmoqr)

691 Why the fuck does he talk to Haberman?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (mR6Gs)

Because he used to be able to control his narcissism, but his age has degraded his self-control to the point that he simply does not care who he talks to as long as they say the right things...and Haberman says the right things.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (XIJ/X)

692
Not because Big Pharma hurt (that's just a bonus), but because Twitter should be looked at with extreme suspicion at all times.

Are you implying that Jesus Christ - who has the blue check mark of authenticity on Twitter - may not actually have returned?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (y3pKJ)

693 And no one is claiming Trump is playing eleventy chess with this bullshit.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (mR6Gs)

All those people are congregated on patriots.win They have a home of their own now. Polarization all the way down the board.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (OLVeZ)

694 Alrighty then. I score 110 in the gynormous asshole category...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (4KZTi)

695 And no one is claiming Trump is playing eleventy chess with this bullshit.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 03:07 PM (mR6Gs)

I have to say I am fond of the theory that he is insulting Youngkin and DeSantis to increase their status with the nonTrump loving Rs because I don't like the idea that he's gone nuts. But this theory really doesn't seem his personality at all.

Posted by: Iris at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (foa6+)

696 Apparently, Schmidt's wife needed more "big dick energy" and instead got "preteen level fondling and farting".

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (lm3XL)

697 507 >>I still like Cruz and I like Noem.... I know neither one are popular here...

I like them both. And Noem won by a bigger margin than Ron this year. In fact, 4 governors had bigger margins than Ron. And I like him too.

My guess is Trump thought he had a deal with Ron. He helped him get the governors job and expected his backing for a run in 2024 in return and to date Ron has not complied. Trump values loyalty over everything. I don't think he needed to come out with such a strong statement but it's not rocking my world. I'm old enough to remember when Bush supporters spread a rumor about McCain's daughter in South Carolina. Politics is a rough business.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 02:52 PM (ZLI7S

You are not honestly trying to compare the electorate in South Dakota to Florida, are you? The victory DeSantis had in Florida was historic for a Republican.

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (fatpD)

698 there is an old joke about leaks from the Trump administration, and the joke is: "We know who the leaker is, it was Trump, talking to Maggie Haberman"
Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (C1Zwz)

Well, then he IS an idiot

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (mR6Gs)

699 THERES BOMBSHELL IMFORMATION FRON ARIZONA. GO ON LAKES Twitter to see. But the tldr is we could pick up 51% of the remaining vote in Pima County.
Posted by: Genzconservativist at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (pmoqr)


If it's that important, how about a working link?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (ZSK0i)

700 So a Vietnamese boar is now Miss Piggy NH? Honk Honk, MFers!

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (l7Kbv)

701 Y'all are missing the giant fly in the 2024 ointment.
Neitger DeSantis nor Trump can win unless we can somehow neutralize the cheating.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (2xlV3)

702 What did Hobbs get one more vote and then they stopped counting?
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They've already stopped counting.

It's Veteran's Day. Counting resumes Monday, I think.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (OCK3i)

703 692
Are you implying that Jesus Christ - who has the blue check mark of authenticity on Twitter - may not actually have returned?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (y3pKJ)

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Anything I read on Twitter that validates my preconceived notions is true. Anything I read on Twitter that challenges my preconceived notions is false.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (LvTSG)

704 Body-Positive Biological Male Wins "Miss America" Pageant in New Hampshire

Gawd, she's hot...

Posted by: Biological Whale at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (CaJIi)

705 New and Hot: "if a boy likes dolls they're secretly a girl and we should mangle them with drugs and surgery and call them Sue"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:12 PM (Ivdso)



If I had a son, before he was old enough for kindergarten, I'd teach him that if he plays with girls dolls the teacher will make them cut his penis off and there is nothing daddy will be able to do to stop them.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (vwMFL)

706 Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 03:03 PM (OLVeZ)

Was the bombshell about the adjudication, or the 350,000 ballots they haven't counted, that they think are almost all for Lake?

Posted by: Rbastid at November 11, 2022 03:15 PM (Glq7j)

707 The Lake news appears to be just ballot counting numbers about classification of which ballots appear to belong to which buckets.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:15 PM (yHsuS)

708 I guess Trump is going after Youngkin now. What the fuck is going on?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 11, 2022 03:15 PM (g03CO)

709 699 i tried and was temporarily banned.

Posted by: Genzconservativist at November 11, 2022 03:15 PM (pmoqr)

710 I did like Scarlet Witch as the bad guy, though.

I like Scarlet Witch in the comics, but she has gone nutso and done horrible things in that, too. She was a bad guy almost her entire MCU run with a very brief "well I guess I'll fight the threat to me" run.

And yet the writers kept going out of their way to portray her as unfairly attacked and every character tried to tell her she was just fine despite her many, many evil deeds.

Her motivations in the Dr Strange movie were very puzzling. She no longer cares about Vision, when the entire character arc up to that point was her undying perfect overwhelming love never shown in the movies for a robot? That she then totally forgets and obsesses over her invented fantasy children?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:15 PM (Ivdso)

711 As far as the wife calling the shots, that came from an article--Daily Mail, I think that discussed here. https://tinyurl.com/42htwrs5

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (CXr4y)

For fuck's sake! Trump's Democrat daughter and his democrat Son-in-law called the shots for most of his four years in office.

Trump has no right to criticize anyone.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 03:15 PM (XIJ/X)

712 Why the fuck does he talk to Haberman?
Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (mR6Gs)
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For the fair and balanced reporting, of course!

Posted by: WisRich at November 11, 2022 03:15 PM (G0vdT)

713 676 It looks like the fat four-eyed alien from Lilo and Stitch in a red muu-muu.
Posted by: David Gillies at November 11, 2022 03:11 PM (Jipp3)

Don't you dare talk about Project 626 like that!

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 03:15 PM (OLVeZ)

714 Nood.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:16 PM (yHsuS)

715 678 I didn't hate the movie like others did but I didn't go in looking for a fight. I liked an arrogant Strange as we've seen before showing growth in questioning his decisions.

Plus I am just happy to see Sam Rami doing some horror stuff again. So that probably colored my view a bit.

Posted by: Bete at November 11, 2022 03:16 PM (amJqM)

716 I'd hit it.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 11, 2022 03:16 PM (TU8Tj)

717 Y'all are missing the giant fly in the 2024 ointment.
Neitger DeSantis nor Trump can win unless we can somehow neutralize the cheating.
Posted by: vmom
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Yep.

Unfortunately, you gotta get the people in who will neutralize the various cheats, but how do you do that when the system itself is corrupt?

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 11, 2022 03:16 PM (OCK3i)

718 Because he used to be able to control his narcissism, but his age has degraded his self-control to the point that he simply does not care who he talks to as long as they say the right things...and Haberman says the right things.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 03:13 PM (XIJ/X)

She lets him grab her by the pussy

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 03:16 PM (mR6Gs)

719
Here Jack Let me clear this up for you: He is running. Okay?

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:10 PM (C1Zwz)

I think I'll wait until the actual announcement before I start considering my allegiance.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 11, 2022 03:16 PM (BdMk6)

720 Are you implying that Jesus Christ - who has the blue check mark of authenticity on Twitter - may not actually have returned?

"all I know is he cannot help me hit the curve ball"
--Serrano

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:16 PM (Ivdso)

721 This Trump/ DeSantis stuff is going to be like Lewis and Martin, and they'll say they're best buds. Or pistols for two, coffee for one on the field of honor.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 11, 2022 03:16 PM (lz5hY)

722 He did say this. 1, Maggie Haberman reported it, who Trump is on the phone with most nights. He won't stop talking to her. 2, He said it to a bunch of reporters, one of whom is someone you all know and trust and in fact love, who confirmed it to me the day it was leaked, days ahead of the election. (It was supposed to be embargoed until after the election.)

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (C1Zwz)
Why the fuck does he talk to Haberman?
Posted by: JoeF.
I thought Ivanka was talking to her daily since Bannon was thrown out.

Posted by: Willie Jeff C. at November 11, 2022 03:17 PM (qu6IK)

723 On my flight to Tampa right now - wtf is that thing in red? It's not even a trannie who is trying to look attractive!

Posted by: IC at November 11, 2022 03:17 PM (CQAPg)

724 Something happening on Twitter should mean nothing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 03:09 PM (LvTSG)


Excellent point.
Perfect example of disinformation.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 11, 2022 03:17 PM (anj39)

725
681 DeSantis said he wasn't going to run if Trump did, yet Trump seems like he is trying to bait him like Obama did to Trump causing Trump to go all out.
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Go back and read what DeSantis actually said. It is much more vague and DeSantis never said like Sherman did--no way, no how, etc.

DeSantis had reason do that with his reelection coming up but if he wants to run, he should stop with the fan dance and either announce he is exploring his options (running) or say specifically he is sitting this one out.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:17 PM (CXr4y)

726 THERES BOMBSHELL IMFORMATION FRON ARIZONA. GO ON LAKES Twitter

I dunno, it seemed like bombshell speculation.

Posted by: t-bird at November 11, 2022 03:17 PM (CaJIi)

727 Everybody is losing their shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 11, 2022 03:17 PM (g03CO)

728 > Dude. James Bond has been played by six actors (seven, if you include the David Niven portrayal in the spoof).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (Ivdso)

Semi-related:

I maintain that the best Jack Ryan *movie* was The Hunt for Red October, while the best Jack Ryan *character* was Harrison Ford. Mainly because neither Alec Baldwin nor Ben Affleck is anywhere near smart enough to be a plausible Jack Ryan as portrayed in the books.

Horde Mind: what say you?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 11, 2022 03:17 PM (bW8dp)

729
nood

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 11, 2022 03:18 PM (ENBF0)

730 710 Her motivations in the Dr Strange movie were very puzzling. She no longer cares about Vision, when the entire character arc up to that point was her undying perfect overwhelming love never shown in the movies for a robot? That she then totally forgets and obsesses over her invented fantasy children?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2022 03:15 PM (Ivdso)

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Within the context of this film itself, it made sense. This is a problem with these big, connecting movies. It's hard to make all the connecting pieces stick all the time.

So, they're effectively just episodes in a big, elaborate television show, but it might be better to just view them as individual stories on their own.

There's a reason I prefer movies to television, and it's not because I think movies need more interconnectedness to other movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, drinking whiskey and getting into fights with Sam Peckinpah at November 11, 2022 03:18 PM (LvTSG)

731 She lets him grab her by the pussy

Posted by: JoeF. at November 11, 2022 03:16 PM (mR6Gs)

:-)

And...that's disgusting.

https://is.gd/eyAqRC

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2022 03:18 PM (XIJ/X)

732 You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see Yourself Become the villain, so they say.

Posted by: Harvey Dent at November 11, 2022 03:18 PM (F5ekr)

733 701 Y'all are missing the giant fly in the 2024 ointment.
Neitger DeSantis nor Trump can win unless we can somehow neutralize the cheating.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 11, 2022 03:14 PM (2xlV3)
_________________

THIS. I think the Trump or Not Trump thing is a distraction and our efforts should be at calling out the obvious cheating and idiocy in the election processes. Without election integrity, we are going to lose in 2024 no matter who or what. I believe the AZ and NV elections are being stolen right under our noses while we argue about 2024.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 11, 2022 03:18 PM (iFTx/)

734 344..."Is everyone on the Trump train just determined to insist forever that Trump is as popular with the voting public as he is in the 30% of the country which is pro-Trump and that all evidence which contradicts this is "fake" or fraudulent? will there NEVER be any proof that is satisfactory to get anyone to admit that maybe trump is not popular?

If he loses in 2024, are you going to insist we run him in 2028 again? When will it end?"

As much as Trump did us deplorables...Gotta admit Ace is right on this!

Posted by: Giles Overreach at November 11, 2022 03:18 PM (rw5Gk)

735 708 I guess Trump is going after Youngkin now. What the fuck is going on?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 11, 2022 03:15 PM (g03CO)

Some Loyalty thing that Trump has... he's making sure "His People" stay in line. I think he knows they've been meeting with other GOP Party members in their offices and its got him perturbed.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 03:19 PM (OLVeZ)

736 Trump got fvcked with so much I don't blame him for taking a few wild swings once in awhile.

Posted by: dartist at November 11, 2022 03:19 PM (9X/y4)

737 ...
He did say this. 1, Maggie Haberman reported it, who Trump is on the phone with most nights. He won't stop talking to her. 2, He said it to a bunch of reporters, one of whom is someone you all know and trust and in fact love, who confirmed it to me the day it was leaked, days ahead of the election. (It was supposed to be embargoed until after the election.)

Posted by: ace at November 11,
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I'm shocked

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:19 PM (xcd1u)

738 >>>679 Ace didn't want Trump the first time and he's trying to bludgeon Trump this time. Some things never change.

I didn't but supported him completely after he secured the nomination. I have defended him to the hilt for six years. I've done my part. A competent candidate shouldn't need this much defending from his supporters.

People are allowed to prefer other candidates, you know. The problem with NeverTrump was that they defected to Democrats rather than support Trump, not that they supported other people in the *primaries.* Most Trump supporters supported other people in the *primaries.* Most Trump supporters here supported someone else in the primaries.

I don't see what Trump is fighting for now. You say he's fighting the establishment. I don't see it. I see him fighting for personal vindication, and, while he is owed that -- he was screwed, definitely -- that's not a big enough cause for me to sign up for, especially when his devotion to that cause alone jeopardizes all the more important causes.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:19 PM (C1Zwz)

739 Go back and read what DeSantis actually said. It is much more vague and DeSantis never said like Sherman did--no way, no how, etc.

DeSantis had reason do that with his reelection coming up but if he wants to run, he should stop with the fan dance and either announce he is exploring his options (running) or say specifically he is sitting this one out.
Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:17 PM (CXr4y)

That's not a requirement, and shouldn't be. Nor is it unexpected that he work on a warchest. If Trump goes down due to age, or fading popularity or whatever we would need DeSantis to be ready. If the DeSantis act fades, we will need Trump, or someone else that nobody can see.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 03:20 PM (eoQWY)

740 >>You are not honestly trying to compare the electorate in South Dakota to Florida, are you? The victory DeSantis had in Florida was historic for a Republican.

I'm stating a fact. It gets stated here constantly that DeSantis is the most successful and most popular governor in the country. That happens largely because nobody really talks about any other states but the big media markets. There were other very successful Republican governors.

You aren't honestly saying the electorate in Florida hasn't changed dramatically in the last decade or so and that Republicans haven't benefited dramatically from cleaning up the voting, something DeSantis gets a lot of credit for, are you?

1000 people per day have been pouring into FL on a daily basis, largely from blue states, and making FL redder. Rubio also had a huge win and he wasn't riding DeSantis coattails. Florida is now a ruby red state, the days of swing state status are over.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 03:20 PM (ZLI7S)

741 Never forgive, and never forget. For everyone involved, the day of reckoning will come. Soon I hope.

Posted by: Johnny Anditmightbeasin at November 11, 2022 03:20 PM (kB4cQ)

742 What the fuck is going on?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 11, 2022 03:15 PM (g03CO)

Some Loyalty thing that Trump has... he's making sure "His People" stay in line. I think he knows they've been meeting with other GOP Party members in their offices and its got him perturbed.
Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 11, 2022 03:19 PM (OLVeZ)
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Reason they are all squealing like little girls.

They do it behind closed doors.
Trump does it at a rally before God and everyone.
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:21 PM (xcd1u)

743 682 In fairness, death means nothing is the most comics faithful thing they could do.

Posted by: Bete at November 11, 2022 03:21 PM (amJqM)

744 If I understand the Lake news, it means they got some insight into which ballots haven't been counted in Pima. They are likely to favor her, instead of favoring Hobbs like you would expect from Pima.

Lake is still going to win on the 300K uncounted ballots in Maricopa, but the Pima news means she won't bleed any of her lead from Pima votes.

I think there is still some votes to come in from the rural counties too. But the 300K in Maricopa is the most important.

This may be more important to Masters, Cook may have called the race too soon if they were making an assumption on Kelly vote share in Pima.

Also, pretty sure that Masters will sue if he loses.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 03:21 PM (5p7BC)

745 Eh, that threat sounds like weak sauce to me.

Trump is belligerent by nature. But I think he channels that belligerence, for the most part, against his domestic political opponents.

Hell’s bells, the guy met with Kim Jung-un and didn’t cause WWIII.

Politics is a nasty business. But better that it should be nasty on the domestic stage and not the international.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 03:22 PM (atmen)

746 1000 people per day have been pouring into FL on a daily basis, largely from blue states, and making FL redder. Rubio also had a huge win and he wasn't riding DeSantis coattails. Florida is now a ruby red state, the days of swing state status are over.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 03:20 PM (ZLI7S)

Jack, I usually like your stuff, but you have a soft spot for Trump. Remind me again how much Trump won Florida by 2 years ago?

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 11, 2022 03:22 PM (fatpD)

747 Perusing the comments here, I decided that it would be best that I don't. When I take that route, it's a win for everybody involved. Heh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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Pussy!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 11, 2022 03:23 PM (yikp0)

748 744 If I understand the Lake news, it means they got some insight into which ballots haven't been counted in Pima. They are likely to favor her, instead of favoring Hobbs like you would expect from Pima.

Lake is still going to win on the 300K uncounted ballots in Maricopa, but the Pima news means she won't bleed any of her lead from Pima votes.

I think there is still some votes to come in from the rural counties too. But the 300K in Maricopa is the most important.

This may be more important to Masters, Cook may have called the race too soon if they were making an assumption on Kelly vote share in Pima.

Also, pretty sure that Masters will sue if he loses.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2022 03:21 PM (5p7BC)
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Someone further up claimed they had stopped counting. Is that not correct?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 11, 2022 03:23 PM (F5ekr)

749 For fuck's sake! Trump's Democrat daughter and his democrat Son-in-law called the shots for most of his four years in office.

Trump has no right to criticize anyone.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Doesn't work that way CBD, a lot of people did criticize Trump for it to the extent that in 2020, it may have lost him some votes particularly from anti-semites. Wives with ambition have been criticized forever more (hillary and bill, Marc sanford and his wife, and fdr, and eleanor, what's his name in VA and his wife who were charged with corruption but Scotus killed it.

Basically, the GOP has a lot of people that believe you do not criticize each other except in the back room where the visitors cannot hear.

The Democrats, used to do their brawls in public but nowadays with their nouveau riche prefer to do it GOP style with shivs.

Open debate, criticism, etc. is just what this country needs--not maintaining viability of candidates through backdoor games. Fight the shit in the open. Let DeSantis speak for himself and his wife. That is the cure--more speech is better speech.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:23 PM (CXr4y)

750 >>>THIS. I think the Trump or Not Trump thing is a distraction and our efforts should be at calling out the obvious cheating and idiocy in the election processes.

okay I pretty much agree with you but I don't think Trump is a good persuader on the issue. For one thing, he is not a policy guy, and does not talk specific reforms. For another thing, he mostly just talks about his specific election, and doesn't talk about what he should be emphasizing, elecitons going forward.

lastly, trump is unpopular, so when he links his own loss to election integrity, he actually hurts the case of election integrity.

trump speaks only in conclusions. He does not provide step-by-step persuasion for the unconvinced. So if you *already agree with him*, well, you already agree with him.

but if you don't? Then what? When does he even give a speech were he makes a point-by-point case for his policy?

He's just not interested in that. And that is NOT some minor part of the job you can just blow off.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:23 PM (C1Zwz)

751 >>>Florida is now a ruby red state, the days of swing state status are over.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Dem strategistishions pucker while adding up electoral college votes.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:24 PM (xcd1u)

752 You aren't honestly saying the electorate in Florida hasn't changed dramatically in the last decade or so and that Republicans haven't benefited dramatically from cleaning up the voting, something DeSantis gets a lot of credit for, are you?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 03:20 PM (ZLI7S)

Similar situation in Ohio. A good slug of middle class voters switched sides and made the state red. Thing is, these voters flip isn't just about Trump the man, but is also about the way he was fighting the system that had ruined them. If you want to keep those folks interested, you have to keep fighting that fight about reindustrializing. You go back to elite team A versus elite team B and they won't come in for you.

Even if you get rid of Trump you need to back his issues strongly, possibly more strongly than he would have to.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 03:25 PM (eoQWY)

753 2, He said it to a bunch of reporters, one of whom is someone you all know and trust and in fact love, who confirmed it to me the day it was leaked, days ahead of the election. (It was supposed to be embargoed until after the election.)

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:08 PM (C1Zwz)
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"someone you all know and trust and in fact love" can only mean Mollie.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 11, 2022 03:25 PM (TgBWG)

754 Neitger DeSantis nor Trump can win unless we can somehow neutralize the cheating.

This is true. But one of these two is far more likely to mobilize the opposition, which will have consequences in other races across the country. For example: in 2018, there was a Dem wave of appellate judges elected in the Houston area. Since then the GOP has been very competitive in those appellate races, snagging six of the last eight. But if Trump is on the ballot in 2024, there'll be another Dem appellate wave in the Houston area because Trump has high negatives and motivates the opposition bigly. I'm not anti-Trump because of that, but it is something to consider. If we are going to lose the presidency no matter what in 2024, salvaging what we can is not an unreasonable strategy.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 11, 2022 03:25 PM (KFhLj)

755 Whom did Trump try to blackmail? I haven’t heard about this.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 11, 2022 03:02 PM (atmen)

DeSantis
==
Suppose there is stuff on DeSantis. Would not the Democrats use it gleefully if he were the NOM? Is there service to the party in letting this stuff get aired out BEFORE its too late? I mean I don't like to dirty my skirts anymore than the next gal, but why would you not want to test it in a primary. That's what they are for right?

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 11, 2022 03:26 PM (cBaCg)

756 I suppose if I had expended money, influence and political capital on 200-some odd candidates only to see the Democrats dilute my efforts due to cheating that the GOP either couldn't or wouldn't confront AND tanked some of the races because "the wrong candidate" was running you know what... I'd be bitter.

Trump's bitter and I get it. But he was trying to get a Congress he would be able to work with and get some of his aborted agenda back on track.

He's beginning to drift into unhinged territory. I've no idea what the story is between him and DeSantis but it's looking pretty weird.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 11, 2022 03:26 PM (Q4IgG)

757 Kari Lake Did Not Concede on Twitter, Despite Tweet from 'Verified' Parody Impersonation Account
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Kari Lake in the e-address is lowercase -- Karilake -- in the when the real one is capitalized -- KariLake. Pointed it out to leftist troll "Johnny" at Insty's.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 11, 2022 03:26 PM (yikp0)

758 lastly, trump is unpopular, so when he links his own loss to election integrity, he actually hurts the case of election integrity. ...ace

I agree, we should sweep it under the rug.
'Cause if loudmouth Trump would shut up
IT WOULD GO AWAY

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:28 PM (xcd1u)

759 If you want to keep those folks interested, you have to keep fighting that fight about reindustrializing. You go back to elite team A versus elite team B and they won't come in for you.
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I'm just the man for the Job!!!

Posted by: mitt rombley at November 11, 2022 03:28 PM (mXkzK)

760 And that is NOT some minor part of the job you can just blow off.
________

Hey, I'm right here you know!

Posted by: Kamala at November 11, 2022 03:29 PM (fs1hN)

761
Posted by: Oldcat
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Riddle me this--how long did people know Jeb!! was running in 2016--at least by 2014 they did. How many people knew Romney was running in 2012, they knew at least four years earlier. Bob Dole, ditto, etc.

That sort of timeline prevents someone from slipping through the vetting that is necessary. Even Trump announced in 2015. So stop the fan dance as a practical matter of politics--it fools no one and DeSantis, if he hopes to win cannot play a secret king--he will have to take it if he wants it not draft behind Trump like Cruz did.

You want a piece of Trump, go at it DeSantis--defend your woman, etc. Won't make me think anything less of DeSantis that he is being disloyal etc. The backroom shit does. Notice, Tom Cotton announced unequivocally he was not running for prezzie a couple of weeks ago. That is how you do it. It takes roughly two years to set up.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:29 PM (CXr4y)

762 >>I agree, we should sweep it under the rug.
'Cause if loudmouth Trump would shut up
IT WOULD GO AWAY


or maybe we could have a party leader who is capable of speaking about policy

but no, what I really meant was "we should just shut up about it"

or what was the other one? "We should just nominate Romney."

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:30 PM (C1Zwz)

763 NY Post is not indicating any change from this morning which iirc hasn't changed since the ballot drop last night.

Haven't been able to pull up the latest from Charlie Kirk

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:31 PM (xcd1u)

764 He's beginning to drift into unhinged territory. I've no idea what the story is between him and DeSantis but it's looking pretty weird.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 11, 2022 03:26 PM (Q4IgG)

If I had to guess, DeSantis' wife is pressing him to reach for the brass ring in 2024, which explains why Trump would triangulate toward her and that dynamic with the comment about stuff your wife doesn't know.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:32 PM (yHsuS)

765 he is not a policy guy, and does not talk specific reforms. For another thing, he mostly just talks about his specific election, and doesn't talk about what he should be emphasizing, elecitons going forward.
trump speaks only in conclusions. He does not provide step-by-step persuasion for the unconvinced. So if you *already agree with him*, well, you already agree with him.
but if you don't? Then what? When does he even give a speech were he makes a point-by-point case for his policy?
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I'm just the candidate you're looking for!!!! More bigger policy wonk than me!!! Let me put my logic in you.

Posted by: mitt rombley at November 11, 2022 03:32 PM (dKvN2)

766 He's beginning to drift into unhinged territory. I've no idea what the story is between him and DeSantis but it's looking pretty weird.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Targeted hit to take Trump out and Trump believes that DeSantis has bent the knee to GOPe in order to get their total all in support to do it.

Dunno whether DeSantis was informed about it, required to approve it by telling them he was running, etc. but Trump certainly believes it.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:32 PM (CXr4y)

767 Ever see that "How Beauty Has Changed Through The Ages" meme -- or whatever -- that shows I think a Miss Iraq or some such? She's a spittin' image of our gal, Brian, here.

Seriously -- any parent or contestant who wouldn't immediately leave this "competition" waving two birds in the direction of the judges is part of the problem.

Posted by: red speck at November 11, 2022 03:32 PM (gS3OW)

768 NY Post is not indicating any change from this morning which iirc hasn't changed since the ballot drop last night.

Haven't been able to pull up the latest from Charlie Kirk

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:31 PM (xcd1u)

Check Lake's feed, which has Kirk's show with the election worker describing the ballot numbers.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:32 PM (yHsuS)

769 Ace's opinion is a big hammer and
he's busting a lot of glass today.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:33 PM (xcd1u)

770 >>Jack, I usually like your stuff, but you have a soft spot for Trump. Remind me again how much Trump won Florida by 2 years ago?

I absolutely favor Trump over DeSantis right now. Not because I don't like DeSantis, I do. I think Trump has a much better shot which is why their seems to be a coordinated effort by the establishment to take Trump down right now. I'm not saying you DeSantis supporters, and you are, don't be coy, are establishments but the entire media along with people like the Lincoln Project are out promoting DeSantis and the left is still urging the DOJ to charge Trump with something, anything, to take him out. They aren't doing this because they think he will be easy to beat.

But if DeSantis beats Trump then I will enthusiastically support him. Not sure the voters in FL will be that happy but we shall see.

As I said, Florida is not the same state today it was even 2 years ago when it was considered a swing state. It's a red state today. And yes, Trump easily won Florida in 2020.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 03:33 PM (ZLI7S)

771 or maybe we could have a party leader who is capable of speaking about policy

but no, what I really meant was "we should just shut up about it"

or what was the other one? "We should just nominate Romney."
Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:30 PM (C1Zwz)

I'd prefer that everyone in office or trying get in office to speak up about policy, seems like few actually do.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 03:34 PM (eoQWY)

772 If I had to guess, DeSantis' wife is pressing him to reach for the brass ring in 2024, which explains why Trump would triangulate toward her and that dynamic with the comment about stuff your wife doesn't know.
Posted by: Comrade flounder

Daily Mail story about DeSantis' wife. She apparently is like Nancy Reagan and the enforcer in the governor's mansion.
https://tinyurl.com/42htwrs5

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:35 PM (CXr4y)

773 r maybe we could have a party leader who is capable of speaking about policy

but no, what I really meant was "we should just shut up about it"

or what was the other one? "We should just nominate Romney."
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You forgot:"your so-called preference cascade will solve this "problem" for you before we even get to the primaries, so stop shouting already."

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 11, 2022 03:35 PM (yCFQB)

774 If I had to guess, DeSantis' wife is pressing him to reach for the brass ring in 2024, which explains why Trump would triangulate toward her and that dynamic with the comment about stuff your wife doesn't know.
Posted by: Comrade flounder

Daily Mail story about DeSantis' wife. She apparently is like Nancy Reagan and the enforcer in the governor's mansion.
https://tinyurl.com/42htwrs5
Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:35 PM (CXr4y)

The wicked wife or grandmother trope has been around since Ancient Rome so at least it has a long and proud history.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 11, 2022 03:37 PM (eoQWY)

775 Check Lake's feed, which has Kirk's show with the election worker describing the ballot numbers.
Posted by: Comrade flounder,
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OK, you're ahead of me. What is Lake's feed?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:37 PM (xcd1u)

776 "What blackmail thing? ..."

ha, yeah I missed that as well. And who is the shopping center employee? I need Cliff Notes, and just want to wake up tomorrow hearing Lake and Masters have won.

Something tells me the criminals are still trying to steal the House as well as the Senate ... but I guess House is mostly assured?

Posted by: illiniwek at November 11, 2022 03:38 PM (Cus5s)

777 >>>m not saying you DeSantis supporters, and you are, don't be coy, are establishments but the entire media along with people like the Lincoln Project are out promoting DeSantis

right, that's a real endorsement, Jack, and not one of the "endorsements" Democrats have repeatedly used to get the GOP to pick against their stronger candidates to choose the weaker candidates the Democrats actually want to run against

Oh and if they're really endorsing him, why did Rick Wilson trash him the day they released that?

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:39 PM (C1Zwz)

778
He's just not interested in that. And that is NOT some minor part of the job you can just blow off.
Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:23 PM (C1Zwz)

I tried to watch a Trump rally the other day but it just wasn't as uplifting because I felt so beleagured. I agreed with his points but no longer felt like I was winning.

Explaining is a DeSantis strong point - the way he derailed the "don't say gay" narrative with "ok, groomer". THAT is something we need.

Posted by: Iris at November 11, 2022 03:39 PM (foa6+)

779 Daily Mail story about DeSantis' wife. She apparently is like Nancy Reagan and the enforcer in the governor's mansion.
https://tinyurl.com/42htwrs5

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:35 PM (CXr4y)

And that's all well and good, if she is the good behind the man. But if she is the source of a potential backstabbing DeSantis, that could be a serious miscalculation.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:39 PM (yHsuS)

780 771 or maybe we could have a party leader who is capable of speaking about policy

but no, what I really meant was "we should just shut up about it"

or what was the other one? "We should just nominate Romney."
Posted by: ace
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Read Aristotle regarding political argumentation. Most people only think in rhetoric regarding politics which is why emotions and narratives will always matter more to the general electorate than facts and rational thinking. That is dialectic because you are trying to use facts plus logic to persuade others of teh correctness of your thinking. If either your facts or your logic is wrong, you correct your statements.

The best rhetoric is one that is in general accordance with the truth but like any heuristic, it will necessarily have caveats, deviations, etc. necessary to comply with the situation on the ground. The best dialectic is simply the closest representation to reality that can be reached by logic and facts. Dialectic does not do well on the campaign trail.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:39 PM (CXr4y)

781 I know Lake probably isn't going to win, but goddamn it's depressing to be waiting on that announcement. She was the candidate I was most excited about.

Posted by: SMFH at November 11, 2022 03:40 PM (CEh/e)

782 They aren't doing this because they think he will be easy to beat.
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Its the fcuk you vote. The normal dem voters who will cross over to give a fcuk you. This is a problem. First, they can't model it, it doesn't show up in the primaries. So its hard to know when and how much to cheat. Second, it makes cheating harder because there aren't as many undervotes - those people show up voting for the repubs and you get too many to reasonable then attribute to the dem candidate. It screws up the cheating if there is a big Fcuk you vote. Not that is a theory. Its not provable or verifiable beforehand. Either way, we need to primary this sucka and see what happens. We also need to do things, that we don't normally do in blue states.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 11, 2022 03:40 PM (vwiXB)

783 That Trump comment, I didn't take it that he was disparaging Mrs. DeSantis in any way.
He was telling DeSantis, I know your every secret.

People who are saying Trump was putting down the Mrs. are projecting.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:40 PM (xcd1u)

784 And that's all well and good, if she is the good behind the man. But if she is the source of a potential backstabbing DeSantis, that could be a serious miscalculation.
Posted by: Comrade flounder
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Some are taking it as a criticism like Ace is. I read the statement as a statement of fact--DeSantis is in fact running now due to his wife's counsel and she will be a power in a future DeSantis administration.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:41 PM (CXr4y)

785 OK, you're ahead of me. What is Lake's feed?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:37 PM (xcd1u)

Sorry. Kari Lake said big news on Twitter, follow for more. Then 16 minutes later posted a clip of Kirk's show, with an interview of some election worker explaining all the ballot numbers.

I'll tinyurl a link.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:41 PM (yHsuS)

786 779 Daily Mail story about DeSantis' wife. She apparently is like Nancy Reagan and the enforcer in the governor's mansion.
https://tinyurl.com/42htwrs5

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:35 PM (CXr4y)

And that's all well and good, if she is the good behind the man. But if she is the source of a potential backstabbing DeSantis, that could be a serious miscalculation.
Posted by: Comrade flounder,

oh my god, is this where we are now?

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:41 PM (C1Zwz)

787 OK, you're ahead of me. What is Lake's feed?

Her coat is shiny, so I'm assuming it's oats.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 11, 2022 03:42 PM (KFhLj)

788 Because he used to be able to control his narcissism, but his age has degraded his self-control...
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So the Goldwater Rule is dead now too.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 11, 2022 03:42 PM (yikp0)

789 Braenyard.

https://tinyurl.com/c4f7pvjt

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:43 PM (yHsuS)

790 oh my god, is this where we are now?

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:41 PM (C1Zwz)

Be better, Ace.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:43 PM (yHsuS)

791 The best rhetoric is one that is in general accordance with the truth but like any heuristic, it will necessarily have caveats, deviations, etc. necessary to comply with the situation on the ground. The best dialectic is simply the closest representation to reality that can be reached by logic and facts. Dialectic does not do well on the campaign trail.
==
He knows this already. You can't reason a man out of a position that he hasn't been reasoned into. Is something that he himself has used several times over the years. He isn't even using logic in his arguments against Trump its mostly emo. Because he knows what is persuasive already. As i have said many times, there are logical reasons to be against Trump, he's too old, he's got vax baggage, he did a poor job of hiring, he's a fish out of water. No. He's a crazy blackmailer is rhetoric.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 11, 2022 03:44 PM (4b8lm)

792 >>right, that's a real endorsement, Jack, and not one of the "endorsements" Democrats have repeatedly used to get the GOP to pick against their stronger candidates to choose the weaker candidates the Democrats actually want to run against

I know you keep saying DeSantis is a stronger candidate but I've seen no evidence of that. And no, I'm no saying you are establishment or LP. I'm saying those groups obviously view Trump as the stronger candidate which is why they are pushing him because they want the Democrat to win in the general.

Until Trump's ill advised but not nearly as big a deal as some are trying to pretend it is statement those same groups have been trying to start a fight between Trump and DeSantis for months. Now they are escalating. They love the infighting and the orgasm over anything that hurts Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 03:44 PM (ZLI7S)

793 "backstabbing desantis"

reality check: No one owes Trump the "loyalty" he thinks he is owed, and you all seem to think he is owed

DeSantis also campaigned for Trump in FLA and won it for him. He supported him in Congress. Does Trump owe DeSantis loyalty? Oh, let me guess -- this "loyalty" only flows in one direction, right?

this is a transactional thing. They both supported each other. Trump is not DeSantis' father brother or friend. Stop with this crazy hyperpersonalization of everything, just because trump can only see the world that way

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:44 PM (C1Zwz)

794 >>>The best rhetoric is one that is in general accordance with the truth but like any heuristic, it will necessarily have caveats, deviations, etc. necessary to comply with the situation on the ground. The best dialectic is simply the closest representation to reality that can be reached by logic and facts. Dialectic does not do well on the campaign trail.
Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:39 PM (CXr4y)
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Such as R. Reagan Policy

WE WIN, THEY LOSE

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:44 PM (xcd1u)

795 I know Lake probably isn't going to win, but goddamn it's depressing to be waiting on that announcement. She was the candidate I was most excited about.

Posted by: SMFH at November 11, 2022 03:40 PM (CEh/e)

Same here.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:44 PM (yHsuS)

796 helped win it for him, I meant.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:45 PM (C1Zwz)

797 oh my god, is this where we are now?

Right? If only the cancer had gotten her. We need the president's insiders to be the right sort. Like Ivanka.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 11, 2022 03:45 PM (KFhLj)

798 Stop with this crazy hyperpersonalization of everything

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:44 PM (C1Zwz)

I thought that's what we were doing here.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:47 PM (yHsuS)

799 Dammit Ace, I would hammer that chick with the intensity of 10,000 suns.

Posted by: Joe Fingerblaster at November 11, 2022 03:47 PM (W+TLY)

800 Grandpa Trump's schedule of the past year:
https://tinyurl.com/mr4x6krh

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 11, 2022 03:47 PM (yikp0)

801 What's going to happen here if this place,
Ownership and Management turn into another NeverTrump outlet?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:48 PM (xcd1u)

802 >>>No. He's a crazy blackmailer is rhetoric.

"Young Kin, sounds Chinese, interesting take, I won his election for him" (by staying away when they begged me not to come)

this is all normal stuff to say publicly right?

The prior defense would be, "Well it's crude but it's effective."

But you know this isn't effective, right? He sounds mental. So what's the usefulness of it? It's literally all downside.

And what's the beef with Youngkin? Did he hear through backchannels that Youngkin wasn't supporting him? Is this another "disloyal" person?

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:49 PM (C1Zwz)

803 Such as R. Reagan Policy

WE WIN, THEY LOSE

Posted by: Braenyard
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Great rhetoric, Reagan was very effective at it. Trump can be but often lacks concentration and speaks too long (in rallies that is). Dunno about DeSantis.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:50 PM (CXr4y)

804 Stop with this crazy hyperpersonalization of everything, just because trump can only see the world that way
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Seriously. These are the kinds of things he's been tossing out that make say, hmmm, is this whole 3 day diatribe against the "crazy old blackmailer" who doesn't care about policy a tribute to Norm McDonald? I KNOW that's not the case, but there have been a few howlers.

Nobody has my vote yet. We'll see what happens. If there is dirt on Desantis, the MSM won't sit on it. Remember how hurt McCain was when the NYT ran the story on his girlfriend after he got the NOM?

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 11, 2022 03:51 PM (g5JcM)

805 308 >>>Would pay money to see this thang wrestle to the finish with Stacey Abrams for sole control of the chocolate fountain at Golden Corral.

>You know the purification salt would be flying.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 11, 2022 02:31 PM (geVLo)

The Shinto priests overseeing the match would all commit seppuku in the middle of the ring.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 11, 2022 03:51 PM (qyH+l)

806 In fairness, I knew a Chinese guy named Young Kim.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 03:51 PM (yHsuS)

807 DeSantis supported Trump
Trump pulled DeSantis across the line

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:51 PM (xcd1u)

808
this is a transactional thing. They both supported each other. Trump is not DeSantis' father brother or friend. Stop with this crazy hyperpersonalization of everything, just because trump can only see the world that way

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2022 03:44 PM (C1Zwz)

Why do you say Trump sees it that way when he's just doing politics? It's DeSantis's supporters whining about Trump doing political attacks.

For people who are unfamiliar with DeSantis, one politician attacking another is not particularly offputting. Saying "See how mean Trump is!" doesn't do anything for DeSantis. When an accusation or attack comes in, people first wonder "Is it true?". Ground has been lost relative to no accusation.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 11, 2022 03:52 PM (eYoxG)

809 I hope some of those girls are just acting and will be future conservatives after this.

Posted by: SamIam at November 11, 2022 03:52 PM (oasF3)

810 Remember how hurt McCain was when the NYT ran the story on his girlfriend after he got the NOM?
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After editorializing that urged Republicans to vote for his nomination.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 11, 2022 03:54 PM (yikp0)

811 WE WIN, THEY LOSE

Posted by: Braenyard
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Great rhetoric, Reagan was very effective at it. Trump can be but often lacks concentration and speaks too long (in rallies that is). Dunno about DeSantis.
Posted by: whig
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Yeah, it was in reference to the espoused necessity of deep policy exposition.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 03:54 PM (xcd1u)

812 One thing that we can all be happy about is the growing revolt against Mitch. Now Cynthia Lummis from Wyoming is joining in the fight against a quick vote for Majority Leader.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2022 03:54 PM (ZLI7S)

813 And what's the beef with Youngkin? Did he hear through backchannels that Youngkin wasn't supporting him? Is this another "disloyal" person?
==
You are doing the same thing he is doing, arguably because you think it is the most persuasive tactic. Which arguably he does too. I get it. I understand it. I use it myself in my job.
Does Youngkin have China ties? I dunno. Maybe there's a reason for that remark. To be fair, there's no way I would have believed a congressman was banging a chinese spy, or that a senator was being driven around by one for decades.
There's a LOT of shit in the game. And we all know that now. Nobody has my vote. We'll see what happens.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 11, 2022 03:55 PM (fbBBq)

814 BTW, I think it's a reference to "Chun King", fellow Einsteins.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 11, 2022 03:55 PM (yikp0)

815 Whoever the media blesses as McCain's "Maverick" successor will suffer the same fate: Maverick until the balloons drop at the RNC, then racists/Hitler/etc until the balloons drop at the Dem nominee's victory part on Election Day night, then Maverick again until the next election. Bonus points if he exacts petty revenge in whatever there office he holds (see McCain's thumbs down for the repeal of 0bama care).

Posted by: Fox2! at November 11, 2022 03:56 PM (qyH+l)

816 I honestly want to see him crowned Miss New Hampshire and go on to the Miss America pageant. I want as much common knowledge of this crap going on as possible.

Posted by: SamIam at November 11, 2022 03:56 PM (oasF3)

817 reality check: No one owes Trump the "loyalty" he thinks he is owed, and you all seem to think he is owed
Posted by: ace

Depends on what DeSantis told Trump in private if anything. Trump is big on going after people that break their word to him.

DeSantis is a careful calculating disciplined politician who has been very effective as governor of Florida. Far better than most. I also think he is probably has a genius level iq. But, whether he is appealing to the nation at large, dunno. Will Trump be in 2024, dunno. Who would win a contest in primaries? Dunno. Would Youngkin or someone else be even better? Dunno.

That is why we have a process and trying to short circuit the process and jam the door shut on Trump when he waited on his announcement until Nov. 15th, that is the sort of thing that could doom DeSantis or any GOP presidential candidate if they were involved in orchestrating a hit on Trump.
If they did it, then step up and be proud of it and explain why. Hide it, and it stinks of something rotten.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:56 PM (CXr4y)

818 What's going to happen here if this place,
Ownership and Management turn into another NeverTrump outlet?
==
*Checks the AOS styleguide*

"appeal becoming more selective"

"transitioning to LGF"

I don't like either one of those. Nope.

Posted by: tell me why you like somebody better, not why you hate somebody at November 11, 2022 03:59 PM (cBaCg)

819 Disgust is the only word that comes to mind regarding this obese male freak entering in and winning a so-called women's "beauty pageant". This lard ass butterball needs to be rolled in dough, fried in cooking oil, and sent to the cannibals inhabiting New Guinea as a Thanksgiving Treat.

Disgusting.

P.S. What about the parents who allowed their daughters to participate in this travesty. Assholes.

Disgusting.

Posted by: Junius at November 11, 2022 04:00 PM (ZAerh)

820 Yeah, it was in reference to the espoused necessity of deep policy exposition.

Posted by: Braenyard
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Well, there is a place for that--in private meetings. At a rally, not so much because it is boring.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 04:02 PM (CXr4y)

821 So Brian just won the title -- so that makes him The Greater Derry Heir?

Posted by: red speck at November 11, 2022 04:05 PM (gS3OW)

822 Reality check for the Casey DeSantises: No one owes DeSantis "loyalty" if he's going to be the GOPe tool to take Trump out.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 04:06 PM (yHsuS)

823 If they did it, then step up and be proud of it and explain why. Hide it, and it stinks of something rotten.

Posted by: whig at November 11, 2022 03:56 PM (CXr4y)

Or maybe we could stop slitting each other's throw over a pol who hasn't even announced anything other than "no plans to challenge Trump in 2024."

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 11, 2022 04:09 PM (yHsuS)

824 So...body-positive means you're ugly but you don't care?

Posted by: Ultra pj at November 11, 2022 04:12 PM (G1dq6)

825 Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon,

Thanks

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 04:13 PM (xcd1u)

826 Depends on what DeSantis told Trump in private if anything. Trump is big on going after people that break their word to him.

and Trump is big on sticking with people that are loyal to him.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 11, 2022 04:18 PM (xcd1u)

827 I learned the truth at 17...

Posted by: MikeN at November 11, 2022 04:37 PM (HVIzT)

828 What in the World have those Judges been smoking from their Hookahs?

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at November 11, 2022 05:34 PM (FLiOE)

829 To put it in perspective, none of those chicks is particularly attractive. In fact, he almost compares favorably to the one on the top left.

Posted by: go get your fuckin shine box at November 11, 2022 11:47 PM (WusEB)

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