The Morning Report

The Morning Report — 11/9/22

Good morning kids. I guess you can say it's one step forward and 99 44/100ths of a step back this morning. While one cannot automatically dismiss the stupidity of the average voter, and for sure we have an alarmingly high percentage of stupid people (the Democrat base has their innate stupidity "fortified" with cult-like, inflexible, brainwashed zealotry), there is just no way in hell a large number of the elections were not tampered with. Seriously, stupidity alone cannot account for a brain damaged goon, whose positions are so abhorrent, repugnant and financially ruinous to the average Pennsylvanian to win that Senate seat.

I have never in my life wanted to be more wrong about anything than to be proven wrong and eat a giant plate of crow than about what I stated yesterday:

. . . I’d be lying to you if I said I wasn’t even slightly concerned about the potential for the now patented and perfected Democrat voting fraud to throw, if not all of the key races that preserve Democrat control over Congress, then at least a few, so as to preserve the official line/meme that “Well, it’s the midterms and 99% of the time the party in power loses control of Congress, but in no way does it mean disaffection/disapproval of our agenda!”

I think it's safe to say that the Democrat cheat machine fouled up more than a few key races. Take a look at the results in states where election security is taken seriously and that the safeguards are generally reliable. QED.

As I also stated yesterday, it took the Democrat-Left (now "fortified" with the GOPe New Deal globalists as co-conspirators) a little over 100 years to essentially nullify the Constitution and get to a point where they are this close (place red pube between thumb and forefinger) to seizing absolute power. Key to that is creating the illusion that despite poverty, crime, misery, global instability via foreign policy cluelessness and general societal dissolution that everything they believe in once implemented has wrought, that they are the good guys who will create paradise on earth. A red wave of the kind that was expected would have exploded that myth perhaps for all time. You really think they're going to allow that to happen via the ballot box? They did it before in 2020 and they will continue to do it again and again.

Free and fair elections are an indicator of a healthy, functioning society and government. It is obvious to anyone who has a slightly higher brain function than Lumpy Festerman and Sponge-Brain Shits-Pants that we do not have that. The rigging or tampering with elections that were the hallmark of individuals like Richard Daley and LBJ goes beyond merely preserving a criminal enterprise that abused elective office for profit. Even with the Biden Crime Family, which ultimately involved jeopardizing our own national security by selling us out to corrupt foreign governments as well as global rivals and enemies, it was not ideological (Biden's brain is mush so the shit he spouts is coming from the mind of scum like Obama and Jon Meacham).

Not so today, at least not in the main. Top to bottom, those who are rigging these elections are the true believers that Eric Hoffer warned us about. Their hatred for us has been so ingrained, and their minds are so warped, that the rigging of elections and the subversion of our rights are seen as patriotic acts to preserve that by their own actions are destroying. "We have to destroy the Constitution to preserve it." That was the nub of Molly Ball's horrific admission and boasting about how the entire Deep State and media propaganda complex came together to sabotage and ultimately steal the 2020 election.

Psaki psircling back to yesterday, Mollie Hemingway back in June warned us that something was afoot.

[So-called quote-unquote "president"] Biden really does not want the public to know about his federal takeover of election administration. Dozens of members of Congress have repeatedly asked for details, to no avail. Good government groups, members of the media, and private citizens have filed requests under the Freedom of Information Act. Not a single one has been responded to. All signs indicate a concerted effort to keep the public in the dark until at least after the November midterm elections. The lack of transparency and responsiveness is so bad that the Department of Justice and some of its agencies have been repeatedly sued for the information.
When [so-called quote-unquote "president"] Biden ordered all 600 federal agencies to “expand citizens’ opportunities to register to vote and to obtain information about, and participate in, the electoral process” on March 7, 2021, Republican politicians, Constitutional scholars, and election integrity specialists began to worry exactly what was up his sleeve.
They had good reason. The 2020 election had suffered from widespread and coordinated efforts by Democrat activists and donors to run “Get Out The Vote” operations from inside state and local government election offices, predominantly in the Democrat-leaning areas of swing states. Independent researchers have shown the effect of this takeover of government election offices was extremely partisan and favored Democrats overwhelmingly.
At the time the order was issued, Democrats were also hoping to pass H.R. 1, a continuation of the effort to destabilize elections throughout the country via a federalized takeover of state election administrations.
Biden gave each agency 200 days to file their plans for approval by none other than Susan Rice, his hyperpartisan domestic policy advisor. Yet fully nine months after those plans were due, they are all being hidden from the public, even as evidence is emerging that the election operation is in full swing. . .
. . . It is unclear why Biden and his political appointees are being so secretive about the work that went into their plan to engage in a federal takeover of election administration.
Whatever the case, Americans have a right to know whether these bureaucracies that are meddling in elections have experts in for each state’s election laws, what type of training is going on to ensure that state laws are being followed, whether they are allowing inspections and oversight to ensure no illegal activity, how they are determining whether a third-party group is genuinely non-partisan, whether they are allowing state investigators to approve money, and how much is being spent on this federal takeover of elections.

I would hope Mollie Hemingway was being sarcastic vis a vis that emphasized sentence. In any case, starting with the horrendous "motor voter laws" dating back to the Clinton years, there has been a concerted and sustained effort to thoroughly degrade election integrity in the intervening years climaxing with the "crisis they couldn't let go to waste" of the General Tso's Sickness pandemic. No voter ID requirements. Mail-in ballots for everyone without any requirement for postmarks or verification of who cast them. Same day registration. Illegal aliens and foreigners being given the vote. Ballot harvesting. Poll watchers forcibly removed from ballot tabulation centers. The unprecedented halting of vote counts in key swing districts and states. And on and on and on. And of course, even before the pandemic, electronic voting machines that are connected to the internet and must be "programmed."

“Electronic voting machines didn’t allow people to vote apparently. And that, whatever you think of it, the cause of it, it shakes people’s faith in the system. That is an actual threat to democracy,” Carlson continued.
Republican gubernatorial candidates blasted Maricopa County over the malfunctions, saying, “I hope it isn’t malice” before vowing to fix Arizona’s election system if elected. Former President Donald Trump narrowly lost Arizona in the 2020 election, a result confirmed by a report by the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors.
“We’re not really very serious about democracy if we’re using electronic voting machines, or for not requiring photo ID to vote. We could have secure elections, we don’t because a small number of people don’t want them,” Carlson said. “But until we do, you’re going to have these moments where everybody in the country fears volatility, because one side doesn’t believe the result is real. And you’ve seen it on both sides. You saw it yesterday, Democrats suggesting that electronic voting machines could be hacked. Democrats. This ran in Politico. So, it’s not just the crazy right, it’s that everybody is losing faith in the system itself.”

We are a fundamentally unserious nation and in point of fact will remain a banana republic unless and until electronic voting machines are abolished, absentee ballots are limited only to military personnel stationed overseas, voting is limited to one day only, no same day registrations, voter ID at the polls, motor voter et al is abolished, voter rolls are purged every few years and many other things I'm leaving out.

One US citizen who is registered and legally qualified to vote can cast a ballot.

I'm also of the mind that anyone who violates the integrity of the franchise should face the death penalty. When you fuck with the franchise, you are committing a treasonous, terroristic act. At least that's my opinion. YMMV.

Of course all of this presupposes that the American governmental and political systems at the national and local levels rights itself, comes to its senses and passes these laws. It also presupposes that we have a national consensus across the political divide to to do this. Well, suffice it to say that, here too, we have neither and we are approaching a point in our history where we do not even have a nation. That lets me segue into the "positive" spin I have going forward. That word is in quotes for a reason.

I think the polls were right all along. I think the Democrats should have been wiped out all over the place and that's because I think they lost a shit-ton of their usually reliable constituents because of the disaster of the past two years inflicted on the latter by the former. Now, they too who perhaps accused us of sour grapes two years ago have had their eyes opened. If you think the past two years were hell, you ain't seen nothing yet, my friends.

When people start running out of food, fuel, shelter and clothing as well as the money to buy whatever meager stockpiles we have left of them, watch out. That is exactly where we are headed, on course to become the Haiti of Yugoslavias.

We simply cannot go on like this. It really is us or them. That said, I still believe that societally and politically we have undergone a sea change, regardless of what happened yesterday. Misery loves company and our ranks I predict will grow appreciably larger in that light. So at least there's that.

ABOVE THE FOLD, BREAKING, NOTEWORTHY

"In all the versions of Marxist regimes, one goal was to separate the children from the parents and own them by the state."
Your Children Belong to the State
Daniel Greenfield: "The ex-CIA officer’s company also worked for the Democratic National Committee."
FBI Contractor Spied on GOP Congressman to Protect Muslim Brotherhood

CIVIL WAR 2.0: J-6 FBI FALSE FLAG "RIOT" & AFTERMATH, LEFTIST PERSECUTIONS, DEMOCRAT PUTSCH, AMERICAN DISSOLUTION

"Louisiana Secretary of State Kyle Ardoin announced the change of the polling location from the Kenner Discovery Health Sciences Academy on Loyola Drive in Baton Rouge to Audubon Elementary School on Tuesday."
Bomb Threat at Louisiana Polling Location; Site Moved, Secretary of State Reports
"DEI bureaucrats aren’t shy about enforcing their dogmas across the government."
Meet Biden's Deep State DEI Enforcers
"Robbing Americans of their freedoms is the main chapter of the party's playbook."
The Democrats Told Us Who They Were When They Locked Us Down
Hat tip commenter MTF who says: ". . . he's establishment. This is as close as he will get to actually pouring gasoline on the doors of the building and flipping a match."
Can the FBI Be Saved from Itself—And Can We Be Saved from the FBI?
Robert Spencer: “'I know I’m an idiot. I’m sorry.' Perfect, Arcidiacono! I think men can become women, and vice versa, and that prepubescent children should be encouraged to make life-altering, irreversible decisions that they may (and probably will) bitterly regret once they’re old enough to know better. I know I’m an idiot. I’m sorry. I think having a country that guards its borders and protects its people is racist. I know I’m an idiot. I’m sorry! I think that Old Joe Biden is a capable, competent president who has been beset with bad luck, and that we need to elect more people who will further his hard-Left, socialist, America-Last agenda that will destroy large sectors of the American economy (oil and coal, for starters) in pursuit of a “solution” to a propaganda fantasy (climate change): I know I’m an idiot! I’m sorry!"
Guy Who Threw Hard Seltzer Cans at Ted Cruz Says What Every Leftist Should Say in the Mirror Every Morning
RED-GREENS, CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX, DEMOCRAT-LEFT WAR ON FOSSIL FUELS, JUNK SCIENCE, LYSENKOISM
"Now, it's possible that the president didn't realize where he was, or that his mic was live -- he actually appeared to stumble over his own shadow at one point during the rally -- but, seriously, is he not aware that his anti-resource policies, and the surging energy prices they've helped bring about, are killing his party in the polls just before an election?"
Biden Pledges 'No More Drilling' at Hochul Rally
"The United Nations put out another stern warning, this time about climate change."
Be Afraid! The Climate is Changing (As It Always Has)
AMERICA AND THE WORLD IMPRISONED: CHINESE CORONAVIRUS FICTIONS AND FACTS
"Chinese business elite now have a few regrets about how much power President Xi has been allowed to grab under covid rules."
China Sending Mixed Message on Ending “Zero Covid” Policy
"Any child older than ten and capable of reading the Bill of Rights and this bill can see without question the bill’s immoral illegality. And yet, this law is a perfect expression of what the Democrat Party now stands for."
Pushback: Doctors Sue to Kill California Law Making it Illegal to Disagree With Government
"You want forgiveness? There are certain conditions to meet. . . "
Chinese COVID Amnesty? How About Unconditional Surrender?
AMNESTY, IMMIGRATION, BORDER SECURITY
"Is this an important opening for newly-empowered Republicans?"
After the Midterms, Will Joe Biden Loose his Moderate Dogs on the Southern Border?
CRIME & PUNISHMENT, NON-DOSTOYEVSKY
"Fetterman pulled a shotgun on an unarmed black jogger nearly a decade ago."
Birds of a Feather: "Lumpy" Fetterman Touts Endorsement from Ex-Cop Sued for Accosting Innocent Black Man
FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES, CENSORSHIP, FAKE NEWS, MEDIA, BIG BROTHER TECH
"Democrats and the media ramped up their propaganda campaign to normalize delayed election results. Prepare for a ‘red mirage,’ they warned."
The Left’s ‘Red Mirage’ Narrative is Nothing More Than a Cover for Election-Rigging
SECOND AMENDMENT
"Nearly 50% of Americans today irrationally fear mass shootings, to the point they're willing to forgo the cornerstone tenet of this nation to avoid them."
Is There Room for More Than Tears in America's Gun Control Debate?
EDUCATION, AND WHAT PASSES FOR IT
"Moms and grandmothers have had enough."
Constraints on Educational Freedom Have Dems Fleeing the Party
THE 2020 ELECTION HEIST AND AFTERMATH
"Election Day 2022 has arrived and unsurprisingly, some Americans are already encountering a myriad of problems when going to cast their ballots at their local precinct."
Here’s a List of Counties Reporting Issues at the Ballot Box This Election Day
"Marc Elias has faced sanctions and condemnation over his efforts to undermine duly elected Republicans."
"Lumpy" Fetterman Taps Dirty Tricks Dem Lawyer in 11th-Hour Mail-In Ballot Bid
"The move would delay votes in the highest populated county in Pennsylvania, with the state having some of the most watched races in the country."
Philadelphia to Delay Counting Thousands of Ballots After Reinstating Process to Detect Duplicate Votes
". . . her story about the bag on the floor is what really got to me, because it shows how little election workers understand or care about the proper chain of custody and secure containment of absentee and mail-in ballots. Which is exactly the problem Republicans have been pointing out for years."
Sunny "Moonie" Hostin Accidentally Proves Everything That's Wrong With Mail-in Voting
"Election reform candidates are not the threat. The threat to democracy is to leave things the way they are."
The Partisan Rigging of the 2022 Election
"Actual threat to democracy." (along with any form of early voting and no proper voter ID - jjs)
Tucker Carlson Calls For End To Electronic Voting Machines
What "denial?" They're co-conspirators with Democrat political machines to steal elections in the first place.
The American Security and Intelligence Communities Are in Denial About Election Security
SHAMPEACHMENT 1.0, 2016 CLINTON/OBAMA COUP, CONGRESSIONAL PERSECUTION, SPYGATE, DEEP STATE, MUELLER DECEPTION
"The Ukrainian-born Vindman, who won the Purple Heart with the U.S. Army in Iraq, admitted that Ukraine approached him three times to offer him the post of defense minister. On social media, he often cheers Ukraine’s war effort against Russian invasion." (more like the Purple Nurple - jjs)
Obama Judge Tosses "Bearclaw" Vindman’s ‘Witness Intimidation’ Lawsuit Against Don Jr., Giuliani
2022 MIDTERMS AFTERMATH
The headline sums it up as of this morning.
Breitbart Recap: LOW TIDE: Republicans Favored to Take House / Senate Tight: Dems Win CO, NH, PA, WA / GOP Wins NC, OH, FL, WI, GA, NV Close/ Dems Ahead in AZ / Democrats Dominate Governor Races / Republicans Own Florida / Stars of Both Parties Headed for Defeat
Update 3:47 a.m: More votes are coming in from Maricopa County that seem to favor Kari Lake:
Arizona Leaning Blue, But Game Day Vote Drops Indicate Looming Red Upset
"DeSantis has been handsomely rewarded by the Sunshine State, showing that voters will enthusiastically reward the potent—though rare—combination of principle, courage, and competence."
DeSantis Is the Night’s Big Winner
If that race wasn't rigged, then none of them were. And now we have his psycho wife to contend with once Lumpy gets incapacitated, naturally or otherwise.
"Lumpy" Fetterman Wins Hotly Contested PA Senate Race Against Dr. Oz: Projection
". . . GOP challengers also appeared to have ousted two veteran Democratic members of the Assembly in a pair of stunning upsets."
Republicans Appear to Have Busted Up Democrat "Supermajority" in New York
Oh FFS!
Incumbent Democrat Edges Out Victory In Wisconsin Governor’s Race
Another likely steal. Well, Hochul is pro-crime . . .
New York Governor Kathy Hochul Holds On Against Republican Lee Zeldin: Projection
"The Republican candidate found herself struggling to respond while focusing on trying to raise campaign cash. The Republican Governors Association eventually said it would pour $3.5 million into Dixon’s campaign, but early voting had been going on for nearly two weeks by the time her ad campaign hit the airwaves in mid-October."
Wretched Whitmer Survives Late Surge by Tudor Dixon
"Fox News called the race in favor of Lee, who will enter his third term."
Sen. Mike Lee Wins Reelection, Defeats Never-Trumper Evan McMuffin
"GOP congressman will succeed retiring Republican senator Richard Burr."
Budd Smokes Beasley in North Carolina Senate Race
Jeb! sez, "With that kind of money, at least I got 2 electoral votes."
"Tank" Tanks: Abrams Wasted over $105 Million in Donor Money on Failed Campaign
"'Worn-out old donkey' is only candidate to lose as Democrat, Republican, and independent."
Charlie Crist Defends Historic Triple Crown Title
POLITICS
"[So-called quote-unquote "president"] Joe Biden called it a day at 11:24 a.m. on Election Day, with the White House saying there will be no more news coming out of the Oval Office."
Biden Hides On Election Day With No Public Events Scheduled
"Moylan defeated former Democrat Speaker Judi Won Pat in the delegates race to represent Gaum as a non-voting member of the U.S. House. At the time of the race being called by the local outlet, Moylan led by 1,648 votes: 17,075 (52.19 percent) votes to 15,427 votes (47.15 percent)."
Guam Elects First Republican to Congress Since 1993
"Several states are experiencing problems with voting machines as Americans continue to cast their ballots at polling centers across the country."
Voting Machine Issues Spread to Pennsylvania as Midterms Are Underway
"Approximately 204,500 registered voters live in Luzerne County. Former President Donald Trump won the county by 14 points in 2020, according to the New York Post."
PA Judge Extends Voting Hours In Luzerne County Due To Paper Shortage

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“I think he would be making a mistake, I think the base would not like it — I don’t think it would be good for the party.”
Trump Warns Ron DeSantis About Running in 2024: ‘Could Hurt Himself Very Badly’
Jeffrey Lord: "A vindicated ex-president begins The Return. Establishment elites are terrified."
Run President Trump, Run
"Here is how it will go. Sometime after the first of the year, Biden will resign for health reasons so that Democrats can claim the first minority female president before they get trounced in 2024. Nothing substantial will change policy-wise because Harris will not run the government any more than Biden has. In fact, it may get worse for the average American if enough of us vote incorrectly."
Joe Biden Is Done — Get Ready for President Harris After Election Day

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"Democrats seem to believe they can win by throwing their support behind pink-haired TikTok teachers/groomers bragging about how they are actively 'transing' young kids in the classrooms. This is a microcosm of American society, but they are loud, annoying, entitled, organized, and wildly unattractive."
The Top Five Excuses Democrats Will Use When They Get Annihilated on Election Day
Margot Cleveland: "The post-mortem on Virginia suggests Democrats across the country are about to be slaughtered at the ballot box."
Why a Virginia-Style Reckoning is Likely Awaiting Your State’s Democrats Today
"As we venture forth down the 2024 road to the White House, do not forget that the Establishment's most important goal is to obliterate MAGA."
The Establishment Is Trying to Divide and Conquer MAGA
Bankman-Fried had suggested he might donate as much as $1 billion in the midterms and 2024 election, a figure that would have made him the largest political donor in American history. While he started the 2022 election season doling out $37 million to liberal groups and candidates—he was the second-largest Democratic donor of the midterm elections behind liberal financier [and Nazi collaborator] George Soros—he closed his wallet in October, telling reporters that his plan to spend $1 billion was "a dumb quote on my part."
Hero to Zero: Dems’ ‘Newest Megadonor’ Faceplants on Election Day
THE UKRAINIAN "FRONT"
"Famine: an old mercenary specializing in mass slaughter."
Putin Declares War on the Starving
"Party leaders now have to listen to Tucker Carlson and the America First base."
The One Man Making the GOP Want a Sane Ukraine Policy
FOREIGN AFFAIRS, INTERNATIONAL
"The 'reunification' of the island nation with Communist China would be the crowning achievement of Xi Jinping's reign."
The Coming Invasion of Taiwan
"Qatar is a small Mideastern state with a highly inhospitable climate for playing soccer – the tournament was moved out of the summer months to protect players from playing in dangerous desert conditions – that boasts a deplorable human rights record. The success of its bid to host the tournament baffled and outraged many international observers, particularly since the competing bid came from the United States, which has successfully hosted the World Cup in the past." (their mind's in the "gutter" - jjs)
Officials Stop Interview as Qatar World Cup ‘Ambassador’ Likens Homosexuality to Brain Damage
BBC claimed Jewish victims used “anti-Muslim slurs” during 2021 Hanukkah bus attack.
UK’s Top Media Regulator: BBC Made ‘Serious Editorial Failings’ Covering Antisemitic Attack on Jewish Teens
BIDEN AFGHANISTAN BUG-OUT DISASTER AFTERMATH
"He gave our deadly enemies $1 billion. And it gets worse."
Biden’s Gift to the Taliban
DOMESTIC AFFAIRS, THE COURTS, WASTE/FRAUD/ABUSE
"A new book demonstrates the consequences of the endless war on poverty."
Impoverished by “Equality”
HEALTH AND HEALTH CARE
"Facing crushing healthcare costs, Britain and Canada should expand private responsibility for diagnostic services."
Up from Single-Payer
ACTUAL SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY
"Skyroot, India’s first startup private rocket company, has now scheduled the first test launch of a suborbital version of its Vikram rocket for sometime between November 12the and 16th, depending on weather."
India’s first private rocket company prepares for its first test suborbital launch
"Two stories today suggest that Richard Branson’s space empire continues to totter."
Bad news for Branson
CULTURE WARS, NATIONAL SUICIDE
"In twenty years, America has gone from the apogee of patriotism after 9/11 to a mire of discord, depravity, and the demise of faith."
Not Optimism, But Hope
“Some people who say the U.S. should be a Christian nation are thinking about the religious makeup of the population; to them, a Christian nation is a country where most people are Christians,” said Pew. “Others are simply envisioning a place where people treat each other well and have good morals.”
Pew: 45% of U.S. Adults Think America Should be a ‘Christian Nation’
"The descent into cultural mayhem has been a long, slow grind."
How the Left Obliterates Morality
Christian Toto: "'Funny always wins in the end,' says Bobby Kelly on Dillon's popular podcast."
Tim Dillon: "Making Woke Garbage Might Be Over"
"Turns out, there is nothing imaginative about Saul Alinsky’s method."
The Mediocre Communist Shit of Community Organizers
"Irish of a traditional bent need not apply."
The Radical Inclusive Church

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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at 07:30 AM

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1 hey

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 07:30 AM (us2H3)

2 In before the trolls

Posted by: Rex B at November 09, 2022 07:31 AM (tIeD9)

3 SMH

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 07:32 AM (Z1hlx)

4 I voted as hard as I could.

Posted by: bed head at November 09, 2022 07:32 AM (Y1sOo)

5 morning horde.

covfefe is ready.

i suppose many of my former contrymen want the current happenings. so i fervently pray they get what they want gooder and harder.

now on to the content...u

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 09, 2022 07:32 AM (WhsXQ)

6 if GOP wins the house, the lesson they will not learn is nibbling on economic issues will not presuade the voters

proving that the dims are crooks through tough, unrelenting investigations is the way to go

people don't like provavble crooks

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 07:33 AM (us2H3)

7 I got nothing.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at November 09, 2022 07:33 AM (1Z8zZ)

8 America doesn't trust either party and wants divided government. That's the upshot.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 07:33 AM (Z1hlx)

9 My heart and prayers are happily given in hope of at least partially reducing your disappointment in yesterday's election results.

[KURT: you can start by pulling your head out of the subway glory hole and returning it the upright and locked position in your sigmoid. Hit my tip jar - JJS]

Posted by: Paul [Kurt] at November 09, 2022 07:33 AM (NCRDA)

10 Biden admin vote of confidence...

@disclosetv · 1h
JUST IN - Zuckerberg cuts 11,000 jobs at Facebook owner Meta. [andy: 13% according to chyron here just now.]

... I wonder if the MFM will go ape over this as for Musk's Twitter?? BTW...

Ian Miles Cheong @stillgray · 13h
Media Matters admits that it is part of a coordinated activist campaign to get advertisers to drop Twitter because of @elonmusk.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 09, 2022 07:34 AM (yikp0)

11 For what it's worth, my local NBC News is projecting all the house races and has 220 Repub 215 Dems...not sure how they are projecting the REALLY tight ones, but...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 07:34 AM (exHjb)

12 Ah, they say + or - 10 to the numbers for the House...that's like cheating...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 07:34 AM (exHjb)

13 Good morning horde
Stop the Marxists at every step is my suggestion

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 09, 2022 07:35 AM (RPsMR)

14 well...i was concerned two months ago...i thought it was just ptsd....i put it aside as me just being old and cranky...i guess this is our lot in life...we are surrounded by very stupid and very evil people.

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 09, 2022 07:35 AM (CqHIp)

15 Court Packing is inevitable.

The "elites" want everyone else 6 feet under, and they won't rest until they get it.

Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 07:35 AM (UnA8+)

16 we should face the fact that there are many people in this country that put abortion above all else

yeah, it's pitiful but there you are

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 07:35 AM (us2H3)

17 The most amazing thing is Lumpy Fensterman is going to Washington. His maiden speech is scheduled to take an entire day and will require English subtitles.

At least his Mom and Dad can get him out of the basement.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 07:35 AM (Z1hlx)

18 Everybody needs to look on the bright side. The good news is we're only a few days away from Trump announcing his 2024 Presidential run. Then we get to make excuses for him every day for the next two years while he makes fools of us all again! Who isn't looking forward to that? Yay!

Posted by: Trump 2024 at November 09, 2022 07:35 AM (JyT+2)

19 JJ - take heart. At least (I believe) you have a Republican Congressional Representative this morning. I bet you didn't have that last election.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 07:36 AM (45fpk)

20 Whoa

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 07:36 AM (Do5/p)

21 Chuck Schumer told Biden on a hot mic that the cheat was comfortably in, and so it was.

ABC News ran an article yesterday morning saying to ignore any early Republican leads, because our democracy(tm) would ultimately be safe. Kind of an ahead-of-time version of the infamous Time magazine article.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2022 07:36 AM (zm+d5)

22 16 we should face the fact that there are many people in this country that put abortion above all else

yeah, it's pitiful but there you are
Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 07:35 AM (us2H3)

Thank you, Lindsay Grahamnesty.

*spit*

Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 07:36 AM (UnA8+)

23 Morning, the election results are awful, but I'm not shocked, I always felt like they weren't really campaigning like they were going to lose, skipping debates, hiding in the basement, avoiding press etc... All the same language was being used like in 2020. They have perfected the art of the steal. I also feel like the GOPe (looking at you Mitch) wanted to drag down anyone Trump endorsed, so they can claim he's over. All you have to do is look at the pre-selected headlines this morning with the the main theme being "Trump is a drag on GOP.

Maybe God feels there are still a lot of lessons for us to learn. I can only continue to pray that God will turn his face back towards our country and and show us mercy once again.

Posted by: spypeach at November 09, 2022 07:36 AM (UuB/1)

24 As anyone may have noticed, I have been silent on the whole Red Wave/Election prognostications since we live in propaganda times and the fact Everyone Lies™

I didn't even personally harbor any particular view of how it would go since in the end Congress doesn't really run anything - its all EOs and unelected bureaucrats.

We are lightyears away from a Constitutional Republic and I dare say that there isn't a single government school graduate in the past generation or three who even knows what one is, let alone able to comprehend the underlying principles that form the basis of one.

You can't value what you don't even know exists.
Business as usual. I really expected no matter what that the insanity will continue until they kill us all.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 09, 2022 07:37 AM (3hSHB)

25 "I'm also of the mind that anyone who violates the integrity of the franchise should face the death penalty. When you fuck with the franchise, you are committing a treasonous, terroristic act. At least that's my opinion. YMMV."

Love all Morons at AoS... From Lethal Weapon 2: "Who is the dickhead now, eh?"

They are laughing at us. Get off your asses and TAKE OVER YOUR FUCKING ELECTION PRECINCTS FOR GODSAKES!

Posted by: Danimal28 at November 09, 2022 07:38 AM (klw0w)

26 Five Solutions:

https://tinyurl.com/nhzv8eyw

Posted by: Augustine at November 09, 2022 07:38 AM (BDZWU)

27 So, is GOPe grinning like a pig in its own shit?

Posted by: davidt at November 09, 2022 07:38 AM (oTZbj)

28 As I stated on the Pixy thread, where the Dem urban centers can swing the election, they do. So, unless your state has solid election controls and the GOP is willing to enforce them, you end up with what you are seeing now. Anything statewide or national somehow has the Dems defying expectations. Even the lib pundits were expecting to get slaughtered yesterday. You have to think they thought the polls were accurate.

Posted by: WiNO at November 09, 2022 07:38 AM (EpDzw)

29 Ole Lockdown Don sure can pick 'em. And his announcing his announcement? So helpful.

Posted by: Candidus at November 09, 2022 07:38 AM (LtKhO)

30 At least the gop has the House. It is something.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 09, 2022 07:38 AM (TiGPW)

31 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 09, 2022 07:38 AM (T4tVD)

32 the Mexican Cartels must be partying like it's Cinco de Mayo

the American people just gave them the old green light

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 07:39 AM (us2H3)

33 19 JJ - take heart. At least (I believe) you have a Republican Congressional Representative this morning. I bet you didn't have that last election.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 07:36 AM (45fpk)

And Mandingo-Berry Barnes did not win, thank the Lord. But Tony Evers? WTF?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 07:39 AM (x0n13)

34 Pennsylvania:Approx 1,000,000 mail-in ballots, 80% for Fetterman. 4,000,000 in person ballots, mostly for Oz.

The fix was in months ago. Harvest a hundred thousand ballots in Philly and you can't lose.

Posted by: Grim at November 09, 2022 07:39 AM (ObVZD)

35 Disney is dropping like a rock, after mediocre earnings announced. It seems nobody goes to their resorts any more. At least we have that.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 07:40 AM (Z1hlx)

36 They are laughing at us. Get off your asses and TAKE OVER YOUR FUCKING ELECTION PRECINCTS FOR GODSAKES!
Posted by: Danimal28 at November 09, 2022 07:38 AM (klw0w)

Okay, you move to an urban hellhole and take over running a precinct. That's where the cheating is taking place.

Posted by: WiNO at November 09, 2022 07:40 AM (EpDzw)

37 At least the gop has the House. It is something.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 09, 2022 07:38 AM (TiGPW)

I'm not seeing House numbers that show a majority. Can I ask you where your information is from?

Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 07:40 AM (45fpk)

38
I read some from my late grandfather's Bible last night before bed. I cried a little but ultimately remembered that God is not shocked at all at what has transpired.

Posted by: jmel at November 09, 2022 07:40 AM (RWHIh)

39 Here in PA last night just minutes after the polls closed I checked the local news station's election returns web site and the Lump was ahead of Oz by 250, 000 votes with zero precincts reporting. How is that possible? Oz was catching up all night but never got ahead.

Posted by: Cosda at November 09, 2022 07:40 AM (8NK+a)

40 Oh and this is like the complaint about being election observers. We did that, promptly got removed so they could cheat and no one was punished.

Posted by: WiNO at November 09, 2022 07:41 AM (EpDzw)

41 And Mandingo-Berry Barnes did not win, thank the Lord. But Tony Evers? WTF?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 07:39 AM (x0n13)

Have they called it for Johnson? I don't have cable and the info I have doesn't seem to be up to date.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 07:41 AM (45fpk)

42 Maybe God feels there are still a lot of lessons for us to learn. I can only continue to pray that God will turn his face back towards our country and and show us mercy once again.
Posted by: spypeach

The Apostle John wrote:
"Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world. And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever."

James was a little stronger about it:
"You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 09, 2022 07:41 AM (3hSHB)

43 It appears it's going to be a red sweep in AZ and NV today.

Thank God for Kari Lake and her coattails in AZ.

Fuck Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 09, 2022 07:41 AM (pb6ET)

44 article in American Spectator
Maybe America Hasn't Suffered Enough

yes, I guess many of them have a higher tolerance to shit

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 07:42 AM (us2H3)

45 great essay JJ. but at this point, i'm going to take the opposite tack.

I believe that many of my former countrymen WANT what is happening to happen. or, at bare minimum, they do not care what happens. there's no way anyone can say with a straight face that fetterman should be in the senate, hell he shouldn't be out of hospice yet. and yet...

and arizona et al, yeah there's no way anyone looks at the "irregularities" and thinks "I see no issue with any of this". they either don't care, at beast, or as I said approve.

probably because they are convinced that we're nazis racists et cetera and we have to beaten.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 09, 2022 07:42 AM (WhsXQ)

46 Tony fucking Evers. And the SoS race is still too close to call.

The cheat is in for WI in 2024.

Posted by: davidt at November 09, 2022 07:42 AM (oTZbj)

47 At least the gop has the House. It is something.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 09, 2022 07:38 AM (TiGPW)

We will now negotiate corporate tax cuts for amnesty, open borders, and some enforcement to be named later. We will also fully fund the DOJ/FBI.

Posted by: GOPe at November 09, 2022 07:42 AM (EpDzw)

48 The uniparty had 2 years, after the Trump surprise landslide win in 2020 and the scrambling to fix the vote that followed, to come up with a more widespread and stealthy way to steal. They could only affect a few house races, but they were able to affect the statewide races where the R's underperformed significantly. Plus there is a growing number of Americans who prefer crime, open borders, abortion, genital mutilation for kids, fentynal overdoses, giving Ukraine whatever they want, giving Iran nukes and letting the WEF run everything.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 09, 2022 07:42 AM (fs1hN)

49 But Tony Evers? WTF?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 07:39 AM (x0n13)

Even I had a hard time voting for Michels. They should have run Rebecca Kleefish. But I think Trump endorsed Michels.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 07:43 AM (45fpk)

50 Thank God for Kari Lake and her coattails in AZ.

Fuck Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 09, 2022 07:41 AM (pb6ET)

don't know about her coat

but I do like the cut of her tail

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 07:43 AM (us2H3)

51 35 Disney is dropping like a rock, after mediocre earnings announced. It seems nobody goes to their resorts any more. At least we have that.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 07:40 AM (Z1hlx)

And we can stay home from their woke supers movie this weekend and keep sticking the shiv in.

Don't get mad - get even.

You know, that's another thing we need our 2024 candidate to do - don't be mad. Just get us even.

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 07:43 AM (exHjb)

52 So Wrong Track, Angry etc but vote for the status quo?

It may be a cheat, but my theory is that for this generation voting is a ritual that does not and cannot produce outcomes on the ground, like lower crime and lower inflation. There is no Cause and Effect

Posted by: Uncle Festermans Reverse Goiter at November 09, 2022 07:43 AM (o9gPs)

53 I should add that there are a lot of Republicans who prefer all the above bad effects rather than let the populists take control of the party.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 09, 2022 07:44 AM (fs1hN)

54 Tony fucking Evers. And the SoS race is still too close to call.

The cheat is in for WI in 2024.

Posted by: davidt at November 09, 2022 07:42 AM (oTZbj)

LaFollette will win SoS. Again. The LaFollettes have controlled the progressive movement since there was a progressive movement.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 07:44 AM (45fpk)

55 Posted by: Cosda at November 09, 2022 07:40

They precanvassed the mail in votes to separate the ballots from the unsigned/ undated envelopes. As planned.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 09, 2022 07:44 AM (TiGPW)

56 48 The uniparty had 2 years, after the Trump surprise landslide win in 2020 and the scrambling to fix the vote that followed, to come up with a more widespread and stealthy way to steal. They could only affect a few house races, but they were able to affect the statewide races where the R's underperformed significantly. Plus there is a growing number of Americans who prefer crime, open borders, abortion, genital mutilation for kids, fentynal overdoses, giving Ukraine whatever they want, giving Iran nukes and letting the WEF run everything.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 09, 2022 07:42 AM (fs1hN)

In the end, it comes down to punishing their neighbor or co-worker they don't like.

They don't care if it affects them too, as long as they get to watch someone they hate suffer.

Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 07:45 AM (UnA8+)

57 BBC claimed Jewish victims used “anti-Muslim slurs” during 2021 Hanukkah bus attack.

It seems the BBC faked that part entirely. Just made it up.

What a shock. When the news claims today is Wednesday, I double check my own calendar.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 07:45 AM (Z1hlx)

58 So, Time Magazine admits they stole it.

Bray-zen Jackasses.

[types deletes]

War.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at November 09, 2022 07:45 AM (MkuC5)

59 All my eyeballs can do is just briefly scan JJ's Herculean write-up and links. I guess the most positive thing I came come away with from last night is that maybe the voters in many of these hotly watched races are not all that stupid, but are victims of fraud. Too bad there will be no recourse once Democrats firmly embed themselves within their state's gov't apparatus and legally institute all the parlor tricks they've come to perfect from what appears to be a highly successful fraud machine.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 07:46 AM (sVtYq)

60 Good morning dear morons and happy birthday JJ

Everyone just take a breath

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2022 07:46 AM (EZebt)

61 Mind-boggling that Fetterman won, but Oz was a horrible candidate. Maybe pick a candidate who has lived in the state for more than a year.

Oh, and for those worried that the recent northeast transplants to Florida would bring their politics, I guess you can now see these were conservatives escaping. Most of the northeast is likely a lost cause at this point.

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 09, 2022 07:46 AM (fatpD)

62 Here is a feel good story, to overcome the shit night.

https://tinyurl.com/Gun-Control-Activist-Killed

A Baltimore Gun COntrol activist was shot and killed by BPD holding a knife on a woman....

the story fits on so many levels.

Posted by: sven at November 09, 2022 07:46 AM (Lzpvj)

63 41
Have they called it for Johnson? I don't have cable and the info I have doesn't seem to be up to date.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 07:41 AM (45fpk)

At Breitbart. They say asshole Decision Desk called it for RJ.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 07:46 AM (x0n13)

64 As I said on the other thread, I earned an "I told you so," but I take no pleasure in it.

I suppose now the thing to do is count the days until Trump is arrested, indicted or otherwise forced to sit out the next 'election.'

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 09, 2022 07:46 AM (AW0uW)

65 At least Iowa seems to be solidifying its Red status. As I'm tracking, easily retained Gov and Grassley (this needs to be his last term), replaced Dem state AG with a Republican, and 3 of 4 Reps are red. Looks like Central Iowa is still undecided between incumbent dem Axne and Republican Nunn.

We also amended the Constitution with more gun protections. Basically, the State Constitution is similar to the US 2nd amendment on guns, and Iowa voters added "any and all restrictions of this right shall be subject to strict scrutiny.". Kinda lame, as liberal courts will ignore it as they wish, but a good litmus test for gun rights support.

It passed by around 65% to 35%!

Posted by: Grimmy at November 09, 2022 07:47 AM (NCgXW)

66

Arrividerci, America.

Posted by: Father Guido Sarducci at November 09, 2022 07:47 AM (LTvtk)

67 Even I had a hard time voting for Michels. They should have run Rebecca Kleefish. But I think Trump endorsed Michels.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 07:43 AM (45fpk)
=================
Trump is yesterdays news, it seems. His endorsements failed.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 07:47 AM (Z1hlx)

68 63 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 07:46 AM (x0n13)

Good old CAC....

Posted by: sven at November 09, 2022 07:47 AM (Lzpvj)

69 58 Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at November 09, 2022 07:45 AM (MkuC5)

That was the 2020 election. But, agreed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 07:48 AM (x0n13)

70 I started writing in the last post, but truncated it as the page gets glitchy with so many posts. To expand.

Clearly Republicans are gathering more and more in the south (maybe GA might be the exception) but these states should start working with each other as if they were one country. Create industries that serve people on the right. Do everything possible to expel liberals making the country worse.

I think DeSantis started this with what he did with Disney. But for instance now he should actively start encouraging businesses that compete with Disney. Just like Polands film industry caters to Polish needs, and France to French needs, the south should work to build a system catering to southern needs.

Try to build agriculture and energy that stays within that groups sphere, instead of being exported north.

If DeSantis apparently had so many Republican billionaires in his corner, get them to move everything south and build up there over everywhere else, both with actual building and prioritizing investments in those businesses.

If there's ever going to be a split between left and right areas, the right needs to make sure they have everything they need befor

Posted by: Rbastid at November 09, 2022 07:48 AM (/xqqO)

71 47 At least the gop has the House. It is something.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 09, 2022 07:38 AM (TiGPW)

We will now negotiate corporate tax cuts for amnesty, open borders, and some enforcement to be named later. We will also fully fund the DOJ/FBI.

--

BOHICA. You know it's coming. They won't even bring themselves to defund NPR.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 07:48 AM (sVtYq)

72 Thanks PA for no longer making us the most embarrassing state, with our elected Venturas and Frankens. Kiss kiss!

Posted by: Minnesota at November 09, 2022 07:48 AM (+mkOR)

73 29 Ole Lockdown Don sure can pick 'em. And his announcing his announcement? So helpful.

This guy gets it!

Posted by: Liz Cheney at November 09, 2022 07:48 AM (o9gPs)

74 At Breitbart. They say asshole Decision Desk called it for RJ.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 07:46 AM (x0n13)

Thanks JJ. AP hasn't updated their numbers for a couple of hours now and Johnson is up by only 30,000 votes or so.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 07:49 AM (45fpk)

75 Takeaways
Polling is now totally useless, whether it’s about sentiment or senators
Concentrate not on politics but on the important bits of life. New babies. Weddings. Comfort to the ill or bereaved
Learn to resist the totalitarians quietly or anonymously
Twirl. Vex the killjoys. Find a craft or activity that gives personal satisfaction. Live and die gracefully

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at November 09, 2022 07:49 AM (PHxng)

76 Salute to JJ Sefton, for somehow writing and publishing a magnificent Morning Report even when the bombs are falling around our heads. Thank you, sir.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 07:49 AM (Z1hlx)

77 Mornin', all. MO shines like FL with the ability to count votes in one evening. Too bad the census was done here before the mass 2020 migration so we couldn't pick up a rep seat.

But then, we "decriminalized" marijuana. I have got to find me a range.

And I feel like I did in Nov 2020. Thank God I live in a sane red state, but I can't come up with anything I can do to change anything nationally.

Thanks for the newz, JJ!

Posted by: Catherine at November 09, 2022 07:49 AM (ZSsrh)

78 Did anyone really expect anything different?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 09, 2022 07:49 AM (p+1gI)

79 Went to bed and Slotkin was losing MI-7 and James was up pretty big in MI-10. Wake up to see they called the race for Slotkin in MI-7 (+13,000 vote, +3.6% win) and the MI-10 race is still not finished. Showing 99% counted, James up ~8,000 votes over Carl Marlinga.

Taking a look at all the Congressional races in Michigan and the Democrat female candidate won everywhere there was a Democrat female candidate on the ballot: Hillary Scholten (MI-3), Debbie Dingel (MI-6), Elissa Slotkin (MI-7), Haley Stevens (MI-11), Rashida Tlaib (MI-12). In MI-1, MI-2, MI-4, MI-5, male candidate vs male candidate, Republican won.

Either this state is full of left-wing Karens or this is what happens when the Deep State openly and brazenly rigs and steals the 2020 elections, faces zero consequences and every single person who rigged and stole the elections remains in position to do it again in 2022. Or it's a combination of both.

And I just saw Proposal 3 to enshrine abortion-on-demand in Michigan Constitution passed. So yeah, this is a radical left-wing Karen state. And Proposals 1 and 2 passed as well. Wonderful. What a fucking shitshow.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 07:49 AM (Do5/p)

80 For some reason I'm thinking about Pickett's Charge this morning

Posted by: DB at November 09, 2022 07:49 AM (geLO8)

81 The general sentiment toward people who have been saying we weren't going to vote our way out of this has been pretty shitty.

Posted by: McLurkerson at November 09, 2022 07:50 AM (wNDOJ)

82 >Did anyone really expect anything different?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm

I dared hope- never again

Posted by: DB at November 09, 2022 07:50 AM (geLO8)

83 Well the Uniparty appears to have gotten what they wanted. Some shuffling of deck chairs in the chambers of Congress, but no real power changing hands. Plus they ding up Trump by saying his picks sucked. To make the 24 cheat seem even more plausible. Unless something changes, we've now seen voting doesn't matter, especially in Blue states and only force/raw power gets anything.

Posted by: Iblis at November 09, 2022 07:50 AM (abOpZ)

84 75 Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at November 09, 2022 07:49 AM (PHxng)

How do you do exit polling for three months of mail in voting that is not backed by ID or paper trail?

Look tighten election security or understand the donks get essentially to wish vote their Mary Sue entertainment shit on the political realm.

It is election DAY not election season.

Posted by: sven at November 09, 2022 07:50 AM (Lzpvj)

85 We are still in the time in which weak men make tough times. We have not gotten to the point where tough times make tough men.

good line from AS

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 07:50 AM (us2H3)

86 If I was Trump, I wouldn't run. If I was DeSantis, I wouldn't run.
Trump is going to try, God Bless him but don't kid yourself into thinking we're going to vote our way out of this.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 09, 2022 07:51 AM (qH6FZ)

87 Everything I fled is now here. I hate my life

Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at November 09, 2022 07:51 AM (bfyic)

88 I also feel like the GOPe (looking at you Mitch) wanted to drag down anyone Trump endorsed, so they can claim he's over. All you have to do is look at the pre-selected headlines this morning with the the main theme being "Trump is a drag on GOP.

Posted by: spypeach at November 09, 2022 07:36 AM (UuB/1)

i was a little surprised at how early fox went this route as well. i mean before the first race was in they were sending "warnings" and talking about split tickets and such.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 09, 2022 07:51 AM (WhsXQ)

89 And I just saw Proposal 3 to enshrine abortion-on-demand in Michigan Constitution passed. So yeah, this is a radical left-wing Karen state. And Proposals 1 and 2 passed as well. Wonderful. What a fucking shitshow.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 07:49 AM (Do5/p)

Pretty much a worst case scenario as far as voting results...lurv our lockdowns and murdering babies!

Posted by: A dude in MI at November 09, 2022 07:51 AM (/6GbT)

90 Mind-boggling that Fetterman won, but Oz was a horrible candidate. Maybe pick a candidate who has lived in the state for more than a year.

--

Horrible Candidate A or Horrible Candidate B. Let's go with the guy who has clear, literal brain damage. Sure, why not!

Point being, they're both unsavory. Why go with the guy who quite literally can't form sentences? You're chosing to put that in the US Senate?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 07:51 AM (sVtYq)

91 Bastards and slits over at Drudge are on a natural high this morning. . . . . .and of course, no hint of any cheating whatsoever in the MSM InfoWhoreHouses. We know it happened, again. As pronounced by many, no authentic change happens without WAR. Breitbart was right.

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & Pennsylvania gargoyles at November 09, 2022 07:52 AM (8m/Xb)

92 81 Posted by: McLurkerson at November 09, 2022 07:50 AM (wNDOJ)

Fuck the blackpillers and the Liberaltarians....

even if they are correct and I am a borderline blackpiller their glee at what will wind up having to be done societally to scourge the communists from power enrages me more than the actual democrats.

Posted by: sven at November 09, 2022 07:52 AM (Lzpvj)

93 Oh, and for those worried that the recent northeast transplants to Florida would bring their politics, I guess you can now see these were conservatives escaping. Most of the northeast is likely a lost cause at this point.

We're self sorting. I've lived through this, regarding public school busing policies. Those who care vote with their feet. Others may bitch, but they'll go along to get along at the end of the day.

I don't know if the vote has to be rigged, by much, in places like New York. Because those who care vote with their feet.

Posted by: Jaguar at November 09, 2022 07:52 AM (go3dL)

94 Said for two years, they foutooth and nail and covered by the Democrats Propaganda Ministry there was no vote fraud so they could do it again.

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 09, 2022 07:52 AM (RPsMR)

95 Maybe I'll go live in a van down by the river

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 09, 2022 07:52 AM (BF0SU)

96 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 07:49 AM (Do5/p)
==================
Shut down Line 5 and hope for a really cold winter. Maybe the voters will start to connect some dots.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 07:52 AM (Z1hlx)

97 I think it is important to note this article from the Epoch Times, from a couple of days ago and written by a Biden voter by his own admission, about how Google can (and has) massively influenced voter choices via search result weightings:

https://tinyurl.com/zr77935v

Zuckerbux were minor league interference n comparison.

We fight against so many crookednesses, we sometimes lose sight of the biggest 'influencers'.

The deck is more than just stacked.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 09, 2022 07:52 AM (JOtiF)

98 90 Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 07:51 AM (sVtYq)

Ahem....madam have you looked at me lately?

//Joey Badfingerz

Posted by: sven at November 09, 2022 07:52 AM (Lzpvj)

99 I hate my life

Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at November 09, 2022 07:51 AM (bfyic)

There are so many beautiful things outside of politics. Chin up.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 07:53 AM (45fpk)

100 They say asshole Decision Desk called it for RJ.

Fucking CAC. Helping him was Ace's worst decision.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2022 07:53 AM (zm+d5)

101 Possible but unlikely scenario -
Tshibaka wins, but falls short of 50 giving the seat to Murkowski due to ranked choice voting
After all the ballots that are found in the trunks of Buicks, the Rs manage to get 50 seats; with the Warnock Walker race to decide control of the Senate (Kamala with tiebreak). Then Murkowski steps forward to announce she'll caucus with the Dems, depressing the R vote, Warnock wins, Ds take senate 51-49. McConnell is ecstatic.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 09, 2022 07:54 AM (fs1hN)

102 92 even if they are correct and I am a borderline blackpiller their glee at what will wind up having to be done societally to scourge the communists from power enrages me more than the actual democrats.
Posted by: sven at November 09, 2022 07:52 AM (Lzpvj)

While they keep attempting to incite someone else to do it first.

Talk big shit, do nothing, blame someone else.

Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 07:54 AM (UnA8+)

103 81 The general sentiment toward people who have been saying we weren't going to vote our way out of this has been pretty shitty.
Posted by: McLurkerson at November 09, 2022 07:50 AM (wNDOJ)

The Northeast hasn't suffered under a winter with Biden's oil and natural gas spikes yet...ask me next winter if we can vote our way out in 2024...

I mean, for now, the old voters there (Ds for life) have just had SS go up almost 9% to cover their extra food and their meds prices dropped...but they haven't had to pay for the power yet...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 07:54 AM (exHjb)

104 90 Mind-boggling that Fetterman won, but Oz was a horrible candidate. Maybe pick a candidate who has lived in the state for more than a year.

--

Horrible Candidate A or Horrible Candidate B. Let's go with the guy who has clear, literal brain damage. Sure, why not!

Point being, they're both unsavory. Why go with the guy who quite literally can't form sentences? You're chosing to put that in the US Senate?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 07:51 AM (sVtYq)
*******

The rather insane truth is that the DemoNcrats don't care that Uncle Fester has another stroke or dies in office because what they really want is his deranged wife to take the empty seat.

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & Pennsylvania gargoyles at November 09, 2022 07:54 AM (8m/Xb)

105 87 go to Idaho, TN, or WV. If you are going to do it to rid yourself of blue types, go all the way. I guess we could all go to FL, but a well respected Dem Congresscritter tells me it will tip over.

Posted by: Quint at November 09, 2022 07:55 AM (qsnKg)

106 If there is a silver lining, it's that the marginal gains by Republicans don't give them any real power to make changes. Therefore, EVERYTHING that happens between now and 2024 can be laid at the feet of of the Democrats.

If there had been a red wave, Republicans would still not have been able to make much change, but there would be enough of them so that Democrats could blame them for everything going wrong.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 07:55 AM (YIVH2)

107 There are so many beautiful things outside of politics. Chin up.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 07:53 AM (45fpk)

Amen.

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 07:55 AM (exHjb)

108 100 Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2022 07:53 AM (zm+d5)

CAC got the price desired for his integrity....I hope every nickel spends well.

Posted by: sven at November 09, 2022 07:55 AM (Lzpvj)

109 There are so many beautiful things outside of politics. Chin up.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 07:53 AM (45fpk)

give us a lil time, we will get to those

better soak em up, sweety

Posted by: DNC at November 09, 2022 07:55 AM (us2H3)

110 At least Republicans didn't wait until after the election to disappoint us this time.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 07:55 AM (9yUzE)

111 Lindsey Graham gets honorable mention for boldly stating that he wanted to Codified Federal Anti-abortion laws 1 month before a crucial midterm election. SC, you can do better.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 09, 2022 07:56 AM (pb6ET)

112 Did anyone really expect anything different?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 09, 2022 07:49 AM

I didn't. But the general attitude here among most people in the weeks leading up to the elections was to treat anyone who dared doubt the "red tsunami" as if they were a troll. So I rarely commented.

This is what happens when the Deep State rigs and steals numerous elections and then faces zero consequences and everyone is left in place to steal them again. And when people apparently don't care about the tyranny of people like Whitmer and Hochul. And Fetterman winning tells me that either the Democrat voting machine cannot be stopped or candidate quality means absolutely nothing. People will vote for a pet rock if it runs as a Democrat.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 07:56 AM (Do5/p)

113 Fucking CAC. Helping him was Ace's worst decision.
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Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 09, 2022 07:56 AM (yikp0)

114 If I was Trump, I wouldn't run. If I was DeSantis, I wouldn't run.
Trump is going to try, God Bless him but don't kid yourself into thinking we're going to vote our way out of this.

--

In 2 years, Dominion will still be around. There will still be mysterious glitches, insufficient ballot paper, ballots with no dates and no signature verification that will be allowed, likely "amnesty" of millions upon millions of illegals, thoroughly entrenched Democrat politicians in state gov't such as PA.

IOW, there will be no course correction to eradicate fraud. I'm not fooling myself one more time, ever again, into thinking things are going to get better. They really aren't, not in any appreciable way. Let's get this split over with. That remains my last vestige of hope for a decent country.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 07:56 AM (sVtYq)

115 Just got up.

Where do we stand countwise is the House and Senate?

I saw Fetterman won, which I can hardly believe in any time line. But, it's -

"The Miracle of the Lump"!!!!

Fetterman better rub baby oil on that thing daily and keep it well nourished. Maybe light a votive candle to it.

The Miracle of the Lump, people! Believe!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2022 07:56 AM (KLPy8)

116 The kerfuffle about "DeSanctimonious" is Trump's shot across the bow for the Turtle, the Bushies and other Rinos. DeSantis is not a RINO, but for him to become cooped by the UniParty would be a grave loss to MAGA.

They did it to the Tea Party and they want to do it to MAGA. These traitorous bastards are to be made radioactive and MAGA needs to be careful around them.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 09, 2022 07:56 AM (LaNzR)

117 104 The rather insane truth is that the DemoNcrats don't care that Uncle Fester has another stroke or dies in office because what they really want is his deranged wife to take the empty seat.
Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & Pennsylvania gargoyles at November 09, 2022 07:54 AM (8m/Xb)

Supposedly Shapiro wants the Mayor of Scranton in the seat, as opposed to Bride of FrankenFetter.

Not like it matters. Either one will still vote to destroy energy production.

Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 07:57 AM (UnA8+)

118 Huge demoralizing failure yesterday. I'm so glad we still have elections because it gives you a reality check every two years (the one in VA last year was kind of a mirage I guess). We're drinking our own bath water on the right. The country is generally fine with the following: open borders, state-led genital mutilation of children, decimation of US energy, state-endorsed racism, men competing in girls' sports, "experts" mandating injections of unproven vaccines, and mentally retarded men holding major elected office. All of that is shocking to me. But it is also undeniable, and yesterday's results force us to realize all of that and more.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 09, 2022 07:57 AM (Gu48G)

119 Also NY just makes all the other states seem so fishy.

Hochul got 54% of Biden's total (Schumer got the same amount) but Zeldin got 84% of Trump's.

Apparently out of NY, PA, MI only NYer's had a shift in regards to their complete trash leadership? It's not like Zeldin was running as a moderate, people knew he was a big Trump ally. So you'd think there would be similar outcomes in states that are very similar, if not more conservative.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 09, 2022 07:57 AM (/xqqO)

120 102 Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 07:54 AM (UnA8+)

I have had to sit across a federal agent explaining my political decision matrix....

I know what the stakes are, and I am not going to be the first person over the rampart or even the 1500th for people that cannot be assed to be bothered to vote.

America wants to be a third world country, I will help train what military we are allowed by budget and patriotism that is who I am.

Posted by: sven at November 09, 2022 07:57 AM (Lzpvj)

121 At least Republicans didn't wait until after the election to disappoint us this time.
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♪ ♫ ♪ Always look on the bright side of life! ♪ ♫ ♪

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 09, 2022 07:58 AM (yikp0)

122 75 Takeaways
Polling is now totally useless, whether it’s about sentiment or senators
Concentrate not on politics but on the important bits of life. New babies. Weddings. Comfort to the ill or bereaved
Learn to resist the totalitarians quietly or anonymously
Twirl. Vex the killjoys. Find a craft or activity that gives personal satisfaction. Live and die gracefully
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at November 09, 2022 07:49 AM (PHxng)

Yes and as Solzhenitsyn wrote “Live not by Lies.”

Posted by: 7man at November 09, 2022 07:59 AM (qwO6y)

123 Mike Dewine, who took the Xi Jingping approach to covid, easily won re--election and was able to drag JD Vance over the finish line. Doug Mastriano could not even get close enough to sniff a win, and held Oz back. Whitmer cheated her way into the win. The Great Lakes region is pretty stinky politically these days, Michigan and Pa especially.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 07:59 AM (Z1hlx)

124 And don't trust Dominion as far as I can spit

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 09, 2022 07:59 AM (RPsMR)

125 Thank you Dave in Fla for all your time and effort. It can't have been easy, and you did it all on your own time, your own dime. I appreciate it.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 08:00 AM (45fpk)

126 116 Posted by: Minuteman at November 09, 2022 07:56 AM (LaNzR)

Ah yes regale us some more about how Trump's verbal idiocy is in fact a thirty five dimensional chess genius move in a state where DeSantis kicked the unholy fuck out of the left by a wider margin than Trump's coat-tails....

I was a cruz guy who whipped behind Trump because "commies over there", I want ANYONE but Trump to be the 2024 nominee.

Leave cults of personality for the commies.

Posted by: sven at November 09, 2022 08:00 AM (Lzpvj)

127 More morning after observations from PA

Debates are meaningless. Hell public appearances and speeches are meaningless. All communication with voters is via propaganda outlets
Crime is not a political issue
The economy is not a political issue
Tribe trumps everything else

Seems like we are Yugoslavia.
Time to get out before the tribes start shooting.

Posted by: Senator Lump at November 09, 2022 08:00 AM (o9gPs)

128 Also NY just makes all the other states seem so fishy.

Hochul got 54% of Biden's total (Schumer got the same amount) but Zeldin got 84% of Trump's.

NY's likely a state they don't bother to cheat in.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2022 08:00 AM (zm+d5)

129 IOW, there will be no course correction to eradicate fraud. I'm not fooling myself one more time, ever again, into thinking things are going to get better. They really aren't, not in any appreciable way. Let's get this split over with. That remains my last vestige of hope for a decent country.
Posted by: Lady in Black

Split? Let's get this depression on that'll make 1929 look like a church social.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2022 08:00 AM (RvuYE)

130 Looking at a map in 2024, if we run: the south, the middle, and get VA, AZ, and NV, we win. Cheat be damned.

We can do that...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:00 AM (exHjb)

131 Gasoline prices going up. Inflation eating away savings. Ceaseless taxing, borrowing, and spending like there is no tomorrow. Ships at major ports waiting to be unloaded but cannot be because of one woke regulation or another. Mothers unable to get formula for their kids. Kids being groomed into deviancy. A rogue FBI. Borders wide open. Wars without end.

The dems are causing these things as a matter of policy. Last night I had hope we could vote our way out of their madness. Pennsylvania set my mind straight by electing a potato to office.

Posted by: James Smith at November 09, 2022 08:00 AM (hvfJj)

132 yes, we are a 50-50 country but we are not governed as such

Posted by: DNC at November 09, 2022 08:00 AM (us2H3)

133 There are so many beautiful things outside of politics. Chin up.

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Amen, grammie. Strange as it is, I'm relatively indifferent today regarding last night. America is toast and we're a deeply divided country and getting more so. We're not ever going to be what most of us here wish for, what most of us grew up with. It's dead, Jim.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:00 AM (sVtYq)

134 Pa Senator is just a vote, no imput needed to the Marxists plan

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 09, 2022 08:01 AM (RPsMR)

135 The math is that Lake will win in Arizona. It's going to be close for Masters. I told you counting in AZ would be like this.

Nevada looks like Lombardo and Laxalt will win, but Democrats need to get net 50K votes in unreturned mail-in votes to arrive by Friday to beat Laxalt.

Walker should win the runoff (though I'm not guaranting anything right now). So Senate should flip to 51 or 52.

The House has a lot of seats still to be decided. GOP has been called the winner on 199 seats to Democrats 178.

When we get a chance to have another podcast I can explain what I think happened. I warned about this in a post in July.

And yes, cheating was effective in PA and WI. Not sure it made a difference in MI, I think that state is now blue. My original take on MI from a few weeks ago looks to be right.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:01 AM (5p7BC)

136 Looking forward to some mea culpas and explanations from our favorite pollsters. Nobody is perfect. This gives them the opportunity to show the blue-tinted pollsters how it is done when you have egg on your face. Own it, turn introspective, make changes, and do it better next time.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 09, 2022 08:01 AM (Gu48G)

137 There are so many beautiful things outside of politics. Chin up.

Agreed. Let's keep our chins up and thank God for any blessings, big or small. Enjoy life. You only have one.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at November 09, 2022 08:02 AM (nxdel)

138 120 America wants to be a third world country, I will help train what military we are allowed by budget and patriotism that is who I am.
Posted by: sven at November 09, 2022 07:57 AM (Lzpvj)

I'm not saying that you were one of the ones talking shit.

Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 08:02 AM (UnA8+)

139 There are so many beautiful things outside of politics. Chin up.
Posted by: grammie winger

Amen!

Pray, hope and don't worry.
-- St. Padre Pio

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 08:02 AM (LsEU/)

140 What choice does DeSantis have in all honesty but to go with the GOPe? He is not a self funding billionaire like Trump.

Posted by: Floridachick at November 09, 2022 08:02 AM (Q87sy)

141 113 Fucking CAC. Helping him was Ace's worst decision.
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Ace, just like Trump, was always shitty at picking staff.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 09, 2022 07:56 AM (yikp0)

"I know, right?"

- - J.J. Sefton

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 08:02 AM (x0n13)

142
A couple things about Pennsylvania; as of 7:47 this morning 93% counted. A lot of counties that are hot for Oz have votes to count. But Philly 5 to 1 Festerman still have votes to count, too.

Second, I wonder if there is any mechanism in place to negate the mail-in ballots where the people ALSO showed up and voted in person. Is that why this is taking so long?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 08:02 AM (y3pKJ)

143 Thank you Dave in Fla for all your time and effort. It can't have been easy, and you did it all on your own time, your own dime. I appreciate it.
Posted by: grammie winger

What grammie said! X1000!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2022 08:02 AM (RvuYE)

144 CAC was weird from the get-go. I helped him in his first election night roundup in the WI special recall election with Scott Walker. I think grammie winger did also. That guy was fuck'n out there, I should have saved my emails and phone messages from that night. Wow.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 09, 2022 08:03 AM (qH6FZ)

145 Six years of Fetterman's Lump vomiting out gibberish from the Senate.... I'm sure that's not gonna have a long term drag on the popular view of the Fixocracy. No, not at all.

And the real kick in the nuts is that he's a straight white guy, so they can't hide his gibberings behind The Stack like they do with the rest of their mealy mouthed idiot Senators.

Posted by: Waraiotoko at November 09, 2022 08:03 AM (6FeV1)

146 It is also time to start counting the possible electoral votes for 2024. Taking into account that any state controlled by a Democrat Governor-AG-SoS will never be allowed to vote Republican. So that means Michigan will not flip back to Red as Trump did in 2016. Same goes for MN (Walz) and WI (Evers) and NM (Grisham). And PA (Shapiro) is definitely staying Blue, with all the corruption there.

Republican candidate should get AZ and GA back, pending the Dobbs/Lake race. But I don't think getting those two states back is enough. Won't matter if it's Trump or DeSantis in 2024. With once again no accountability or punishment for stolen elections and everyone remaining in position to do it again in 2024, the perfect candidate won't matter. American people have already accepted rigged and stolen elections for Democrats as the norm.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:03 AM (Do5/p)

147 126 I was a cruz guy who whipped behind Trump because "commies over there",

This guy gets it!

Posted by: Bitch McConnell at November 09, 2022 08:03 AM (o9gPs)

148 The majority of the country have had their brains snatched and voting is not the answer.

Posted by: Ziba at November 09, 2022 08:03 AM (4h9M3)

149 Jo reggelt, Sefton Ur.

Posted by: Miklos, consumer of Content at November 09, 2022 08:03 AM (SP4pi)

150 130 Looking at a map in 2024, if we run: the south, the middle, and get VA, AZ, and NV, we win. Cheat be damned.

We can do that...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:00 AM (exHjb)

Not feeling optimistic about VA. Although VA-10 was 15 points more red than last time, just not enough to pull off the win.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 09, 2022 08:03 AM (Gu48G)

151 Grammie winger and Tonypete thank you for the encouraging words.

Posted by: Floridachick at November 09, 2022 08:04 AM (Q87sy)

152 I helped him in his first election night roundup in the WI special recall election with Scott Walker. I think grammie winger did also.

I did! What a hoot.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 08:04 AM (45fpk)

153 Move to Montana. Help us get rid of Tester in 2024.

JJ, I have great respect for you, putting out a strong essay under such a black cloud. Many Thanks.

Posted by: Wenda at November 09, 2022 08:04 AM (5KpDr)

154 Doug Mastriano could not even get close enough to sniff a win,

Not a high energy guy by any means.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 09, 2022 08:04 AM (pb6ET)

155 Is that why this is taking so long?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 08:02 AM (y3pKJ)

*meme of JK Simmons bursting out laughing in that Spiderman movie*

Posted by: Waraiotoko at November 09, 2022 08:04 AM (6FeV1)

156 Abolish The Federal Government And Watch Those Problems Disappear.

Never Give Up Your Guns!

Rootin For Putin!

Free Buffalo Guy!

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 09, 2022 08:04 AM (QIOpg)

157 And I just saw Proposal 3 to enshrine abortion-on-demand in Michigan Constitution passed. Yes, DU is crowing pretty loudly about their victories last night...some which flew under the national radar.

The Michigan Senate just flipped to Democrats for the first time in 40 years All 3 props will pass. All 3 big state wide races stay blue. Supreme Court stays blue. US House delegation looking like 7-6 from 7-7. State Senate flips blue for first time in 40 years. State House still in the balance. Both US Senate seats already blue!

This was a Blue Wave Statewide of epic proportions.

Voters finally sick of traitors who support our adversaries and leave no future for our kids Yeah, it's about time!!!

Apparently, their "Prop 2" on the ballot had something to do with "expanding voting and making it easier", so I wouldn't expect and Republican gains for a long while.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at November 09, 2022 08:04 AM (NCgXW)

158 Not sure it made a difference in MI, I think that state is now blue. My original take on MI from a few weeks ago looks to be right.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:01 AM (5p7BC)

Not sure how, but I think we have gone full retard as well

Posted by: A dude in MI at November 09, 2022 08:04 AM (/6GbT)

159 Six years of Fetterman's Lump vomiting out gibberish from the Senate.... I'm sure that's not gonna have a long term drag on the popular view of the Fixocracy. No, not at all.

And the real kick in the nuts is that he's a straight white guy, so they can't hide his gibberings behind The Stack like they do with the rest of their mealy mouthed idiot Senators.

Posted by: Waraiotoko at November 09, 2022 08:03 AM (6FeV1)

If he even makes it to his inauguration. We're instead going to be stuck with his even more nasty and developmentally disabled wife.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 09, 2022 08:04 AM (/xqqO)

160 As bad as everything is right now Americans decided to shart in their undershorts last night. Great expectations heading into 2024 but I should temper them based on last nights results

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 09, 2022 08:04 AM (flINI)

161 Has anyone even tried to explain why places are still using the lockdown-year COVID-19 mail in ballot approach?

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:04 AM (bm04m)

162 When we get a chance to have another podcast I can explain what I think happened. I warned about this in a post in July.

And yes, cheating was effective in PA and WI. Not sure it made a difference in MI, I think that state is now blue. My original take on MI from a few weeks ago looks to be right.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:01 AM (5p7BC)

Dave, I have tremendous respect for you, your tireless work every election, and your honesty in self-assessment and reflection. Thank you.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 09, 2022 08:05 AM (Gu48G)

163 On the bright side we can now all point and laugh at Pennsylvania....

Posted by: steevy at November 09, 2022 08:05 AM (yezA1)

164 138 Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 08:02 AM (UnA8+)

Sorry to imply I thought you thought that.

Back in 2012 during God help me happier times, I had to tell a friend Sean Bannion I had nightmares about a civil war.

I have been around the force my whole life, and I never looked at Yugoslavia as a how to manual, I love soldiers on both sides of the political axis.

Posted by: sven at November 09, 2022 08:05 AM (Lzpvj)

165 146 It is also time to start counting the possible electoral votes for 2024. Taking into account that any state controlled by a Democrat Governor-AG-SoS will never be allowed to vote Republican. So that means Michigan will not flip back to Red as Trump did in 2016. Same goes for MN (Walz) and WI (Evers) and NM (Grisham). And PA (Shapiro) is definitely staying Blue, with all the corruption there.

Republican candidate should get AZ and GA back, pending the Dobbs/Lake race. But I don't think getting those two states back is enough. Won't matter if it's Trump or DeSantis in 2024. With once again no accountability or punishment for stolen elections and everyone remaining in position to do it again in 2024, the perfect candidate won't matter. American people have already accepted rigged and stolen elections for Democrats as the norm.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:03 AM (Do5/p)

I posted - we don't need any of them to win. We need AZ, NV, VA, NC, and GA - getting a candidate who wins those states is key...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:05 AM (exHjb)

166 Things are working about as I expected. No wave, but some gains. Other things seem to be turning around, twiter for one. A nice healthy depression might turn some minds. It's not enough to get 1/2 the country to wise up though, the other half has to give a shit.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2022 08:05 AM (sn5EN)

167 Biden's DOJ Election Plan was ignored by the media.
No one was paying attention except Tom Fitton.

Posted by: Ziba at November 09, 2022 08:05 AM (4h9M3)

168 The Great Lakes region is pretty stinky politically these days, Michigan and Pa especially.

Look at the ratio of Urban to Rural voters. I think thats the key. Not a simple red vs blue map. MI is a ton of mid sized cites. PA is mostly rural - but the bulk of the population lives in Pitt and Philly. Imagine Illinois with two Chicagos.

Urbanites will never - ever - vote for individual liberty. Its not in their DNA. To live Urban is to willingly cede your sovereignty to the collective.

We're fooling ourselves with the notion that, if things would only get bad enough, the Urbanites would come to their senses. It will never happen. You'll get them to vote for a Big Gov Republican, at best.

Posted by: Jaguar at November 09, 2022 08:05 AM (go3dL)

169 The country is generally fine with the following: open borders,

I suspect to the extent that the results actually reflect the real way people voted a critical mass voted D because they did NOT blame Biden for inflation and thought they'd get more money from the Dems then the Reps and...that's about it.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2022 08:05 AM (ESjRY)

170 "I know, right?"
- - J.J. Sefton
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You're the one of two good ones, JJ! [So Bannon??

]

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 09, 2022 08:05 AM (yikp0)

171 There are so many beautiful things outside of politics. Chin up.

And nothing beautiful within politics.

Put not your faith in princes.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 08:06 AM (9yUzE)

172 PS - That does mean, for VA, picking someone who will not turn feds out 90-10 blue...you have to split that 70-30 to win the state...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:06 AM (exHjb)

173 Listening to "happy" classical music so I don't knife anyone

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 09, 2022 08:06 AM (2xlV3)

174 Sen. Graham expresses disappointment about midterms

Posted by: DB at November 09, 2022 08:06 AM (geLO8)

175 We love shit. We can't get enough shit. We love to get screwed up the butt and have a dirty pecker smear shit right under our nose. AY CARUMBA!!! And the Big Road Apple loves shit even more because their nasty!

We eat shit and we vote for politicians to hold us down and shut in our mouths. Mmmmmmmm, shit.

Posted by: The Coprophageous State of New York at November 09, 2022 08:06 AM (LaNzR)

176 Looking at a map in 2024, if we run: the south, the middle, and get VA, AZ, and NV, we win. Cheat be damned.

That's definitely doable, especially once Kari Lake kicks Dominion to the curb.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2022 08:06 AM (zm+d5)

177 Forgive my ignorance but who is CAC?

Posted by: Floridachick at November 09, 2022 08:06 AM (Q87sy)

178 Looks like National Divorce is back on the menu, boys.

Posted by: Candidus at November 09, 2022 08:06 AM (LtKhO)

179 79. Clyde, my district here in Michigan was redrawn through the new citizen involved redistricting. The district is now three times as large and runs from down river Detroit all the way west past Saline and includes all of Ann Arbor. The much less populated farmland is now sandwiched in with heavily populated Dem areas that are either legacy Democrat from the days of industrial unions to the communist university denizens. The redistricting ensures I will never have Republican or moderate representation again.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 09, 2022 08:07 AM (0kICs)

180 Thanks Dave in Fla.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, hoarder and wrecker at November 09, 2022 08:07 AM (g03CO)

181 IF Lake pulls it out, needs to go decimation on AZ voting and clean it up..stat

Posted by: A dude in MI at November 09, 2022 08:07 AM (/6GbT)

182 116 the Desanctimonious Schtick was about Trump Wanting to take down his greatest Republican rival. I have years of defending Trump, supporting Trump, and just enjoying the way the guy works. But Trump can not stand Desantis. He doesn’t want anyone who can take him on his orbit. Let’s not forget, at his best, Trump took down one Dem and ten or more Repubs.

Posted by: Quint at November 09, 2022 08:07 AM (qsnKg)

183 173 Listening to "happy" classical music so I don't knife anyone
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 09, 2022 08:06 AM (2xlV3)

Wagner's "Gotterdammerung?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 08:07 AM (x0n13)

184 You know 2 states that seem to working really well these days? FL and TX. Businesses can't wait to move there. So does the rest of the country look at them and say, "Hmmm, what are they doing right? Voting GOP really seems to be working for them, let's try it!" No, instead they vote to become more like CA.

Western Civilization is dying of self-inflicted wounds. Of stupidity.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at November 09, 2022 08:07 AM (HabA/)

185 I live in an Atlanta suburb full of white women that supposedly were pissed about inflation and schools and crime. Also plenty of Hispanics that are moving to the right, as well as black men supposed doing the same. Yet gun grabbing Dem Lucy McBath easily wins with 62%. WTF? Is that all BS?

I'm not convinced fraud it the problem. That cannot account for those numbers and conceivably could be fixed. We have a much bigger problem of a dumbed down, easily manipulated citizenry.

Posted by: Ripley at November 09, 2022 08:08 AM (MxEKc)

186 177 Forgive my ignorance but who is CAC?
Posted by: Floridachick

backstabbing former cob

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 09, 2022 08:08 AM (2xlV3)

187 We simply cannot go on like this. It really is us or them. That said, I still believe that societally and politically we have undergone a sea change, regardless of what happened yesterday. ...
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That's a possible outcome, yes. Many red states got redder. Blue states held on. States with better mixes are being stolen as we speak or the cheat was already in place, so the blues will hold those, too.

It can't, and won't, be sustained. It will be sustained for a while. We'll make it to at least 2032, if I had to guess, if not beyond. But the divisions continue to grow. Even with cheating in places like PA and AZ and GA, last night's results don't make much sense in the context of the level of decline we've seen over the past 2-3 years and the level of discontentment among people everywhere. That leads me to one of two conclusions:
1. The cheat is more or less perfect and fully in control
2. Political partisanship is a stronger force than current conditions. They don't like the inflation and energy disaster and the like, but they like voting for the opposition even less.

It could be either or both, but I kind of suspect door #2 is bigger than I thought it was.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:08 AM (DU+/6)

188 Biden's DOJ Election Plan was ignored by the media.
No one was paying attention except Tom Fitton.
Posted by: Ziba at November 09, 2022 08:05 AM (4h9M3)

And Mollie Hen___way.

Posted by: Candidus at November 09, 2022 08:08 AM (LtKhO)

189 And the real kick in the nuts is that he's a straight white guy, so they can't hide his gibberings behind The Stack like they do with the rest of their mealy mouthed idiot Senators.

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Why would they hide him? It obviously doesn't matter because his health challenges were as plain as day to the PA voters, yet he won the seat.

Add the bolts to his neck, hook up the electricity supply in the Capitol and wheel him out in front of the cameras. Be sure not to criticize his verbal missteps...you abelist, you!

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:08 AM (sVtYq)

190 Philadelphia has always been a corrupt mess.

Posted by: Tom C at November 09, 2022 08:08 AM (UC9jk)

191 I hate my life

Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at November 09, 2022 07:51 AM (bfyic)

Right there with you. But it isn't politics that makes me feel like this.

O/T - is anyone else getting some mysterious 'autocorrect" (I don't know what else to call it) that is finishing their sentences for them on this site? It's annoying and creepy as fuck.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 09, 2022 08:08 AM (AW0uW)

192 On the bright side we can now all point and laugh at Pennsylvania....

And Michigan. I was born and raised there but live in Ohio now. Ohio may not be great, but at least the Karens aren't in charge yet.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 08:08 AM (9yUzE)

193 Mollie Hen___way. = Mollie Hemingway.

Posted by: Candidus at November 09, 2022 08:09 AM (LtKhO)

194 149 Jo reggelt, Sefton Ur.
Posted by: Miklos, consumer of Content at November 09, 2022 08:03 AM (SP4pi)

Az anya pitchaya to the Democrats.

And jo reggelt, dragam.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 08:09 AM (x0n13)

195 Wagner's "Gotterdammerung?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Hot damn, boy

Posted by: Preznit Joey B. at November 09, 2022 08:09 AM (SP4pi)

196 176 Looking at a map in 2024, if we run: the south, the middle, and get VA, AZ, and NV, we win. Cheat be damned.

That's definitely doable, especially once Kari Lake kicks Dominion to the curb.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2022 08:06 AM (zm+d5)

But if we have to win VA, it can NOT be Trump. He is unelectable in the state...completely unelectable. Feds will go 98-2.

If we can't have PA or WI or some other northern state as a replacement for VA, we have to move on to someone who can win here...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:09 AM (exHjb)

197
Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:00 AM (exHjb)

If the country can last long enough, 2024 looks very promising for the Senate, even outside of cheating.

All 10 Republican seats should be safe. Dems have 4-5 vulnerable seats if not more .

I really should find a way to better work to make stuff like that a reality. I was expecting a slight career shift come April, and while i really do enjoy walking around NYC, i suspect it's going to become undoable in the next few months . So maybe a change of scenery might be in the cards too.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 09, 2022 08:09 AM (/xqqO)

198 If elections are fixed, why worry about them? Installing a retard like Fetterman conclusively proves it's all a sham.

Posted by: trev006 at November 09, 2022 08:10 AM (igJSL)

199 So it seems the soccer world is about to have their World Cup, a big soccer tournament. Qater bribed everyone in sight, supposedly, and won the rights to the tournament. No idea why they wanted it, but I guess its a big deal. Anyway, the rainbow crowd is very upset about it because throwing gay people off buildings is the second favorite national sport there.

Qatar World Cup ambassador Khalid Salman got his own interview shut down Tuesday after saying homosexuality is "damage in the mind," warning a German broadcaster gay soccer fans have to "accept our rules" if traveling to the repressive Middle East monarchy.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 08:10 AM (5YMTI)

200 Looks like National Divorce is back on the menu, boys.

--

*slaps $5 on table*

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:10 AM (sVtYq)

201 I'm not convinced fraud it the problem. That cannot account for those numbers and conceivably could be fixed. We have a much bigger problem of a dumbed down, easily manipulated citizenry.

Posted by: Ripley at November 09, 2022 08:08 AM (MxEKc)

I agree. It's not the cheat. It's the chuckleheads.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 08:10 AM (45fpk)

202 How many of the candidates that Trump supported and endorsed won vs lost? I honestly didn't keep track but that seems to be a metric worth analysis.

I have a feeling that more than a few of the narrow losses were self inflicted. On purpose.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (Q4IgG)

203 I just knew I should not have gotten up today!

But, did I listen to my limbic brain...

Noooo!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (hOUT3)

204 Our shit's all retarded.

Posted by: The Coprophageous State of Pennsylvania at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (LaNzR)

205 Second, I wonder if there is any mechanism in place to negate the mail-in ballots where the people ALSO showed up and voted in person. Is that why this is taking so long?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 08:02 AM (y3pKJ)
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Technically, it wouldn't be that difficult. I doubt there is such a mechanism implemented.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (DU+/6)

206 Well, if voting our way out of this is off the table, then civil disobedience looks to be the alternative.

I keep stressing that there is my oath I took (with SO many of my brothers) that has no expiration date.

Once more, fulfilling it doesn't always mean picking up a weapon, though that's the final option when all else fails.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (KATBx)

207 Forgive my ignorance but who is CAC?

Former cob who started Decision Desk HQ with Ace's help, then took Soros money and said Ace and the commenters were all racists.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (zm+d5)

208 Dems have 4-5 vulnerable seats if not more .

I really should find a way to better work to make stuff like that a reality. I was expecting a slight career shift come April, and while i really do enjoy walking around NYC, i suspect it's going to become undoable in the next few months . So maybe a change of scenery might be in the cards too.
Posted by: Rbastid at November 09, 2022 08:09 AM (/xqqO)

Ballots already being stockpiled for those 4-5 vulnerable seats

Posted by: A dude in MI at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (/6GbT)

209 Walker should win the runoff (though I'm not guaranting anything right now). So Senate should flip to 51 or 52.

If the Senate hangs on the Georgia runoff, the Dems take it. If Republicans already have the Senate, Walker wins. Apparently the left is rabid this cycle, and GA doesn't have all the voter integrity measures needed, so the left will absolutely ensure they win GA if needed.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (NCgXW)

210 And jo reggelt, dragam.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Now see?

I have been trying to get all True Morons to learn some basic Hungarian.

It will be Our Secret Language in the Burning Times.

Posted by: Preppy Miklos at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (SP4pi)

211
The county by county map of Pennsylvania is still red. But the blue that was always Philly and Pittsburgh now includes Harrisburg/State College area and the east side up the Delaware River towards New York.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (y3pKJ)

212 If there is a silver lining, it's that the marginal gains by Republicans don't give them any real power to make changes. Therefore, EVERYTHING that happens between now and 2024 can be laid at the feet of of the Democrats.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 07:55 AM (YIVH2)

Of course, I mean see how CA has turned red after the Dems created a hellhole....oh that didn't happen. The Dems are solidifying their permanent control. Elections only will exist to vote for them to show them that we love them.

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (EpDzw)

213 Wagner's "Gotterdammerung?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Ha ha. That might make me pick up a sword or two.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (2xlV3)

214 199 So it seems the soccer world is about to have their World Cup, a big soccer tournament. Qater bribed everyone in sight, supposedly, and won the rights to the tournament. No idea why they wanted it, but I guess its a big deal. Anyway, the rainbow crowd is very upset about it because throwing gay people off buildings is the second favorite national sport there.

Qatar World Cup ambassador Khalid Salman got his own interview shut down Tuesday after saying homosexuality is "damage in the mind," warning a German broadcaster gay soccer fans have to "accept our rules" if traveling to the repressive Middle East monarchy.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 08:10 AM (5YMTI)

Wasn't the stadium they're hosting it in built entirely with Slave Labor?

Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (UnA8+)

215 HEADLINE FROM THE FUTURE:

"Electorate tells America: Drop Dead!"

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (vyrg8)

216 So, I know it is probably impossible to say for sure, but is Fetterman going to be a "Senator" because of fraud or because enough of PA is in the tank enough to make that baffling outcome happen?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (DU+/6)

217 Not sure it made a difference in MI, I think that state is now blue. My original take on MI from a few weeks ago looks to be right.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:01 AM

Michigan has been blue for decades. Trump flipped it in 2016 by only 11,000 votes. His win in 2016 in 3 key states was due to the Left's complete underestimation of (1) Trump's appeal and (2) people's dislike of Hillary. There was massive third party voting, mostly taking away from Hillary votes as her totals were down from Obama's 2012 votes, in 2016 in key states that Trump flipped. And because of (1), Hillary's campaign and the Democrat cheat machine did not go full bore.

2020 was then the Deep State using any means necessary to assure the victory for Democrats. They tested it in 2018 and got Democrat Governors / AGs / SoSs in key states, helped by funding from George Soros. And then 2020 was a given. Now 2022 the same.

And now 2024 is pretty much guaranteed a Democrat win, because the math for electoral vote victory does not add up for any Republican candidate. With WI, MN, NV and PA no longer options to flip, I don't see a path to win.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (Do5/p)

218 "In all the versions of Marxist regimes, one goal was to separate the children from the parents and own them by the state."

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"All Your Kids Are Belong To Us."

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (K3TEc)

219 Western Civilization is dying of self-inflicted wounds. Of stupidity.

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Celebrate diversity you racist homophobe.

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (bm04m)

220 Zero self reflection on the poor showing by the GOP

[Yes, Kurt. We didn't understand how much you and your paymasters instituted the cheat regime to thwart what should have been a huge GOP victory. Get back to that glory hole, fool. Those dicks don't suck themselves - JJS]

Posted by: Paul [KURT] at November 09, 2022 08:13 AM (NCRDA)

221 The county by county map of Pennsylvania is still red. But the blue that was always Philly and Pittsburgh now includes Harrisburg/State College area and the east side up the Delaware River towards New York.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (y3pKJ)

When votes are apportioned by landmass and not population, let me know. It is stupid to point out the county voting.

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 09, 2022 08:13 AM (EpDzw)

222 I'm going to concentrate on caring for my wife and family and try to ignore the BS around me. My life is infinitely better than it was when R. pulled me from the throwaway pile. I have enough to eat and a roof to keep the weather out. I am thankful for my many blessings - which have far outweighed my trials. I have enough to eat and a roof to keep the weather out.

Politics isn't real life. Certainly, it affects us but it is a distraction from the most important things.

My door is always open for any of you all. Stop in and say hi sometime, no kidding. I'll put the coffee pot on, bake some bread and tell Dad jokes. We'll laugh 'till we cry and then start over.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 08:13 AM (LsEU/)

223 198 If elections are fixed, why worry about them? Installing a retard like Fetterman conclusively proves it's all a sham.
Posted by: trev006 at November 09, 2022 08:10 AM (igJSL)

It is even worse when you do it in spite of the fact that you have an blatant exemplar of dementia "installed as pResident of these formerly united states.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:13 AM (hOUT3)

224 With WI, MN, NV and PA no longer options to flip, I don't see a path to win.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (Do5/p)

And why can't we flip NV?

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:13 AM (exHjb)

225 207 Forgive my ignorance but who is CAC?

Former cob who started Decision Desk HQ with Ace's help, then took Soros money and said Ace and the commenters were all racists.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM

What's it pay, selling out principles for cash? Seems pretty lucrative, seeing some of our politicians and talking heads...
Hey, George....call me!

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at November 09, 2022 08:14 AM (NCgXW)

226 And the real kick in the nuts is that he's a straight white guy, so they can't hide his gibberings behind The Stack like they do with the rest of their mealy mouthed idiot Senators.

The Lump identifies as colored.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2022 08:14 AM (zm+d5)

227 211 The county by county map of Pennsylvania is still red. But the blue that was always Philly and Pittsburgh now includes Harrisburg/State College area and the east side up the Delaware River towards New York.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (y3pKJ)

It always included the City of Harrisburg. It's where all the Government Workers are, which means Public Sector Unions, who 99% vote Demoncrat.

Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 08:14 AM (UnA8+)

228 If the country can last long enough, 2024 looks very promising for the Senate, even outside of cheating.

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I'm not falling for that ever again. But I admire people that still hold onto any optimism.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:14 AM (sVtYq)

229 if GOP wins the house, the lesson they will not learn is nibbling on economic issues will not presuade the voters

proving that the dims are crooks through tough, unrelenting investigations is the way to go
Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 07:33 AM

That's not who we are.

Posted by: GOPe at November 09, 2022 08:14 AM (a3Q+t)

230 "I think the polls were right all along."
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The polls were basically correct, within the margin of error. FiveThirtyEight's polls-only model had the GOP with a 51% chance of winning the Senate. So we flipped a coin, called heads, and it came up tails. Disappointing, but you shouldn't be suprised that when you put money on red on the roulette wheel and it comes up black.

The polls were wrong by a lot in 2016 and 2020. The best explanation for why the polls were wrong was the "shy Trump voter." But when Trump isn't on the ballot, as in 2018 and 2022, the pollsters more or less get it right.

There will be time to figure out what happened. Everyone's first explanation (and one that they stubbornly stick with for a while) is whatever aligns with their beliefs. All I'll say for now is that the GOP needs to take a hard look at candidate quality. Running candidates who don't suck in Pennsylvania and Georgia would likely have made a difference.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:14 AM (4QgJj)

231 And now 2024 is pretty much guaranteed a Democrat win, because the math for electoral vote victory does not add up for any Republican candidate. With WI, MN, NV and PA no longer options to flip, I don't see a path to win.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (Do5/p)

The math won't line up for anyone if the cheat is on, much less if the Department of Ju stice is determined to crack down to anyone to the right of McConnell. You can put your hopes in a rigged system, but it would be foolish.

Posted by: trev006 at November 09, 2022 08:14 AM (igJSL)

232 I swore I wouldn't be seduced by hopium again, but I was.

Posted by: Oedipus at November 09, 2022 08:14 AM (Gd8a9)

233 🤬🤐 I am biting my tongue right now.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2022 08:15 AM (NpAcC)

234 Wasn't the stadium they're hosting it in built entirely with Slave Labor?
Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (UnA8+)

Islam permits slavery. Homosexuality is not permitted but widely practiced.

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 09, 2022 08:15 AM (EpDzw)

235 I guess the takeaway is that LIVs and Dems like high gas prices, inflation and a horrible foreign policy.

I suspect we need to allow all the things they voted for to really take hold and give it to them good and hard.

Freezing in winter because there is no hearing oil and no food on the shelves will motivate a lot of people in 2024. But the cheat factor is probably something we cannot address unless Rs are in power.

I am really sad and disgusted this morning.

Posted by: Czech Chick at November 09, 2022 08:15 AM (6Tc2R)

236 216 So, I know it is probably impossible to say for sure, but is Fetterman going to be a "Senator" because of fraud or because enough of PA is in the tank enough to make that baffling outcome happen?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (DU+/6)

Depends what the final numbers come down to, PA may be operating with "normal fraud" margins which would only be 1% or so. We're seeing more abnormalities in Arizona and Georgia.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 09, 2022 08:15 AM (eYoxG)

237 And now 2024 is pretty much guaranteed a Democrat win, because the math for electoral vote victory does not add up for any Republican candidate. With WI, MN, NV and PA no longer options to flip, I don't see a path to win.

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It's pretty smart to secure victory AND prop it up with cheating. Remember, we know Trump won Arizona and Georgia. Those illegal votes from two (2) cities have been found and made public, and Biden lost by small margins in both states.

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:15 AM (bm04m)

238 Well, give credit where it's due...

Soros spent money for decades, since the 90's IIRC, to get AG's, etc voted into place to control the counting of votes and election results.

In fact, they weren't even quiet about it. Said the quiet part loud and proud for years. Even gave the effort a snazzy name.

It didn't work for the longest time and then it did. And went into overdrive with the election of Obama.

So, here we are.
With enough money and persistence you can destroy any nation. Good job???

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2022 08:15 AM (KLPy8)

239 Looks like Arkansas Issue 4, legalization of pot for recreational purposes failed.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 09, 2022 08:15 AM (lz5hY)

240 199 So it seems the soccer world is about to have their World Cup, a big soccer tournament. Qater bribed everyone in sight, supposedly, and won the rights to the tournament. No idea why they wanted it, but I guess its a big deal. Anyway, the rainbow crowd is very upset about it because throwing gay people off buildings is the second favorite national sport there.

Qatar World Cup ambassador Khalid Salman got his own interview shut down Tuesday after saying homosexuality is "damage in the mind," warning a German broadcaster gay soccer fans have to "accept our rules" if traveling to the repressive Middle East monarchy.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 08:10 AM (5YMTI)

They are warning ANY couples even if Married not to hold hands in case you will be arrested and thrown in jail. Budweiser is a sponsor and they won't allow beer sales.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 09, 2022 08:15 AM (dKiJG)

241 Message to the COBs:

you have to get a handle on the trolls. Stayed up late last night/this morning on the ONT and it was pretty bad. As far as I know there is no way to defeat VPNs. Would a subscription model work around that? Because I would sign up.

Posted by: DB at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (geLO8)

242 206 Well, if voting our way out of this is off the table, then civil disobedience looks to be the alternative.

Tamara Lich and the truckers tried that in Canada. As perfect a protest as could be done. Still the mounted RCMP trampled them, confiscated their rigs, and threw them in the klink.

Posted by: James Smith at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (hvfJj)

243 Of course, I mean see how CA has turned red after the Dems created a hellhole....oh that didn't happen. The Dems are solidifying their permanent control. Elections only will exist to vote for them to show them that we love them.
Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (EpDzw)
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The rest of the country serves as a safety valve for CA. What happens when that's closed off and the entire country is turned into CA?

It won't be pretty, but it might be necessary before sanity is restored.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (YIVH2)

244 69 58 Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at November 09, 2022 07:45 AM (MkuC5)

That was the 2020 election. But, agreed.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 07:48 AM (x0n13)

Yep, I was aware. My point, as you had made so deftly as per standard JJ procedure, is they did it again and the systems to do so in future are now fully "in production."

I suspected this would be the case, but honestly, I am shocked they are so confident in their capabilities they can now openly elect rutabagas at will in major swing states.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (MkuC5)

245 And why can't we flip NV?

You can consider the following states as colonies or vassals of California: NV, CO, AZ, OR, and WA.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (9yUzE)

246 During the primaries in 2016, before Trump looked to lock it up, Ace himself was very ANTI-TRUMP. He wrote a lot about what a disaster he would be. Everything he wrote then turned out to be pretty prescient.

Trump did pull an inside straight in 2016, but still only won about 46.5% of the popular vote. Yes, the popular vote doesn't count, but winning through threading the needle on states isn't a long term strategy.

Trump is an albatross. He lost in 2020 against a man with dementia. The BUT FRAUD types are essentially arguing that without fraud Trump could have pulled off another inside straight. Maybe so, but doesn't matter. He lost the real game being played. Whining like a teenage girl and talking about how everyone is so unfair to him doesn't change that.

DeSantis is a winner. Trump has lost us the Presidency and the Senate (twice).

Time to jettison the loser.

Again, ACE WAS RIGHT!

Posted by: Chris not rock at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (Yjadf)

247 Jimmy Failla
@jimmyfailla
If we’re being honest, the big winner in New York’s Governor race was UHAUL.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (NpAcC)

248
Technically, it wouldn't be that difficult. I doubt there is such a mechanism implemented.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM

When I voted yesterday, after showing proper ID I was handed a ballot which was numbered, the number was recorded, and some check mark was recorded. If I had also mailed in a ballot, which is opened today (for instance) I would hope that someone would notice that I was handed ballot #646 and shit can the mail-in.

But that all takes time. I imagine some locations might go to that effort, some not.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (y3pKJ)

249 Wasn't the stadium they're hosting it in built entirely with Slave Labor?
Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (UnA8+)
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Wouldn't surprise me. Slavery is kind of a big thing in those parts.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (5YMTI)

250 If there is a silver lining, it's that the marginal gains by Republicans don't give them any real power to make changes. Therefore, EVERYTHING that happens between now and 2024 can be laid at the feet of of the Democrats.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 07:55 AM (YIVH2)
++++
Power in name is power in fact. The coming disasters will be laid at the feet of the Republicans. Majority of one vote or majority of 30, it makes no difference.

But perhaps the key point is that it doesn't matter. Even with commanding, red-wave majorities, the next two years would look the same. The fed-level Republicans are not on a different team. Sure, I wanted to see a red wave because of the gnashing of teeth and lamentations of press whores, but I didn't think it would result in anything meaningful. It won't with smaller majorities, either.

As the state results get certified, we will see whether my actual hope was satisfied or not: whether there is net increase in state and local repudiation of the Dems. I suspect we are going to see that the red states got redder and the blue states got bluer.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (DU+/6)

251 I voted REALLY hard yesterday. Only had one race on the ballot. In the Red Wave, the Republican lost by 33 points.

Posted by: blaster at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (pwExq)

252
Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 08:13 AM (LsEU/)

Bingo. This is all just polishing brass on the Titanic. Don't let it get to you.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2022 08:17 AM (oINRc)

253
And now 2024 is pretty much guaranteed a Democrat win, because the math for electoral vote victory does not add up for any Republican candidate. With WI, MN, NV and PA no longer options to flip, I don't see a path to win.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (Do5/p)

Trump could probably win. What we're seeing in today's performance somewhat resembles the Obama problem, some R voters don't turn out if Trump isn't on the ballot. His personal popularity only carries over so much to the party.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 09, 2022 08:17 AM (eYoxG)

254 239. Sanity

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 08:17 AM (Zzbjj)

255 And why can't we flip NV?
Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:13 AM (exHjb)

I don't live in NV. Yet, I consistently get texts about where my polling place is in NV. I have notified the SOS about it. Still, I get texts. That's why.

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 09, 2022 08:17 AM (EpDzw)

256 Wagner's "Gotterdammerung?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Ha ha. That might make me pick up a sword or two.
Posted by: vmom

I want to be a winged Hussar when I grow up!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 08:17 AM (LsEU/)

257 Posted by: irongrampa at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM (KATBx)

I agree with you, but I am no longer sure of how many that once took that oath, still believe it has no time limit.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:17 AM (hOUT3)

258 >>181 IF Lake pulls it out, needs to go decimation on AZ voting and clean it up..stat
Posted by: A dude in MI

She said yesterday that many people will be going to jail and the new AG Hamadeh concurs.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 09, 2022 08:17 AM (pb6ET)

259 And thank you J.J. and Dave for all the work you guys have put in.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 08:17 AM (LsEU/)

260 I wonder if a Georgia runoff election will have early and mail-in voting? They make it too easy for the moochers and couch potatoes and stoners to vote. If so Warnock probably wins.

Posted by: Ripley at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (MxEKc)

261 Zero self reflection on the poor showing by the GOP

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I will concede that the GOP didn't offer much. They had no unified message (or any message at all?). But aside from that, the Democrats have thoroughly destroyed the economy and everybody knows it. At least, insofar as most polling reflected. Do you go with the party who is causing you massive financial harm, just because the other party has no message? Personally, I'm going with the no message, because I know that the other party is the one inflicting massive economic damage on the country. But that's just me...

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (sVtYq)

262 Running candidates who don't suck in Pennsylvania and Georgia would likely have made a difference.

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Republicans acting like it's an election year and discussing topics that voters are discussing instead of just sitting and waiting for votes because gas and food is expensive would have been nice, too.

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (bm04m)

263 Running candidates who don't suck in Pennsylvania and Georgia would likely have made a difference.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete

You've got my vote.

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (SP4pi)

264 234 Wasn't the stadium they're hosting it in built entirely with Slave Labor?
Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM (UnA8+)
YES

They are also paying fans for positive coverage when they attend games,

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (dKiJG)

265 I agree that Trump should not run.

They are just going to steal it from him, again.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (C1rbv)

266 135 Walker should win the runoff (though I'm not guaranting anything right now). So Senate should flip to 51 or 52.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:01 AM (5p7BC)
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I feel like I've seen this movie before. In case you need a preview:

Trump swans into the state, says the whole thing is rigged and the state GOP sucks, Republican voters stay home because they believe Trump, Democrat wins.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (4QgJj)

267 242 Tamara Lich and the truckers tried that in Canada. As perfect a protest as could be done. Still the mounted RCMP trampled them, confiscated their rigs, and threw them in the klink.
Posted by: James Smith at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (hvfJj)

Don't forget Chrystia Freeland seizing all their bank accounts.

Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (UnA8+)

268 I’d there is a Republican sec of state, the Republican wins.

Same goes for Dems.

Posted by: MJ at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (zwDuR)

269 The rest of the country serves as a safety valve for CA. What happens when that's closed off and the entire country is turned into CA?

It won't be pretty, but it might be necessary before sanity is restored.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (YIVH2)

Venezuela is what happens. If the people only run to the next better state, they will never fight.

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (EpDzw)

270 CAC puts syrup on his french toast

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (EZebt)

271 245 And why can't we flip NV?

You can consider the following states as colonies or vassals of California: NV, CO, AZ, OR, and WA.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (9yUzE)

Not this election - both are tight. And if we win AZ and NV this election, we can taken them both in 2024...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (exHjb)

272 Running candidates who don't suck in Pennsylvania and Georgia would likely have made a difference.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:14 AM (4QgJj)

This is going to be a major consultant class talking point- and it's bullshit. Fetterman was an absolute vegetable, and Oz not only dismantled him mentally but spoke well about major issues. If conservatives need some kind of magical unicorn to defeat a total retard, the race is too fixed to merit further investment. Democracy is not a casino.

Posted by: trev006 at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (igJSL)

273 I got yelled at by Pookette yesterday because I attacked the 2 putzes at Decision Desk as "ex-morons"; CAC and Jeff B.

Apparently she still provides them with free labor. I could be wrong. Anyhow, I asked her if she was on the Board of Directors or something at DD.

I again want to repeat that my animosity to the DD is focused on the Telescope Guy and Jeff B.

Fucking putzes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (JOtiF)

274 Looking at a map in 2024, if we run: the south, the middle, and get VA, AZ, and NV, we win. Cheat be damned.

We can do that...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:00 AM

I need to do the math and check to see. Starting with the 2020 results, I need to see which States are in play to flip and see how that adds up. With Democrats controlling VA and NV, I don't see a flip happening there. No Democrat-controlled state will be flipped. I think the only 2 states that are in play to flip are GA and AZ. And AZ only if Hobbs does not steal this election. If she does, AZ is blue for 2024. And the only flip is GA. And that definitely does not get a Republican candidate to an electoral win.

But I need to go confirm my assumptions...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (Do5/p)

275 Looks like Arkansas Issue 4, legalization of pot for recreational purposes failed.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 09, 2022 08:15 AM (lz5hY)
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*sigh* wish I could say the same for MO. We're about to fuck ourselves in the ass...THANKS YOU FUCKING MORONS IN KC, COLUMBIA, and STL!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (YIVH2)

276 Again, ACE WAS RIGHT!
Posted by: Chris not rock at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (Yjadf)

When ace threw his fit, he told us he was voting for Hillary, and that because us children wanted what we wanted - Trump - that the Presidency, the Congress, and the Supreme Court were LOST FOR A GENERATION.

What was he right about again?

Posted by: blaster at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (pwExq)

277 206 Well, if voting our way out of this is off the table, then civil disobedience looks to be the alternative. I keep stressing that there is my oath I took (with SO many of my brothers) that has no expiration date.

Once more, fulfilling it doesn't always mean picking up a weapon, though that's the final option when all else fails.
Posted by: irongrampa at November 09, 2022 08:11 AM

Yo! DM me! I have some exciting opportunities for you to be a TRUE patriot!

Posted by: Ray Epps at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (NCgXW)

278 Every state should adopt the Florida voting systems. There, you vote and can track your ballot through the process (if you care enough), and you are assured your vote counted. The results are available basically right away.

None of this "we'll let you know next week" or "yeah, we have no idea where those ballots came from or why they all have Biden's name and no one else's, but we are counting them anyway because EVEY VOTE COUNTS!"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (5YMTI)

279 Elections only will exist for them to vote for them to show us that we love them.
Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 09, 2022 08:12 AM

Suggested edit.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (a3Q+t)

280 We have a much bigger problem of a dumbed down, easily manipulated citizenry.

The "Greatest Generation" rewarded the party that turned a recession into a Great Depression with electoral victories in the House and Senate for decades.

This "easily manipulated citizenry" thing has been around a long time. Its not a social media thing. And its not a millennial or gen z thing.

Modern America, at its social core, is probably tilted more towards individual liberty and small govt than at any point since before the Depression Era. But its still, by a bigger majority than you care to see here, a country that prefers Big Govt Moderate Socialism, as long as thats called something else. And its nothing new.

Posted by: Jaguar at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (go3dL)

281
I feel like I've seen this movie before. In case you need a preview:

Trump swans into the state, says the whole thing is rigged and the state GOP sucks, Republican voters stay home because they believe Trump, Democrat wins.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (4QgJj)

It's more that Walker is on coattails, looking at returns...and there will be no coattails in the runoff...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (exHjb)

282 But the general attitude here among most people in the weeks leading up to the elections was to treat anyone who dared doubt the "red tsunami" as if they were a troll. So I rarely commented.

Fortunately, I've built a well-deserved reputation as a cynical, depressive, self-loathing asshole, so when I dismissed the fantasy of a 'red wave,' nobody cared. "Oh, that's just MP4. SOP for him."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 09, 2022 08:20 AM (AW0uW)

283 I want to be a winged Hussar when I grow up!
Posted by: Tonypete

I know some guys...

Posted by: Mikloszczyszczówski at November 09, 2022 08:20 AM (SP4pi)

284 I suspected this would be the case, but honestly, I am shocked they are so confident in their capabilities they can now openly elect rutabagas at will in major swing states.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (MkuC5)

Like Garland will stop it any more than Barr stopped it. And a rutabaga is a great fall guy

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 08:20 AM (Zzbjj)

285 *sigh* wish I could say the same for MO. We're about to fuck ourselves in the ass...THANKS YOU FUCKING MORONS IN KC, COLUMBIA, and STL!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (YIVH2)
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I should probably clarify that I *don't* mean members of the Moron Horde who live in those areas...But don't be surprised when crime soars through the roof because people are stealing to feed their now legal recreational use of marijuana...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 08:20 AM (YIVH2)

286 My door is always open for any of you all. Stop in and say hi sometime, no kidding. I'll put the coffee pot on, bake some bread and tell Dad jokes. We'll laugh 'till we cry and then start over.
Posted by: Tonypete

Do you have any idea what you are ;letting yourself in for?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:21 AM (hOUT3)

287 DeSantis is a winner. Trump has lost us the Presidency and the Senate (twice).

Time to jettison the loser.

Again, ACE WAS RIGHT!
Posted by: Chris not rock at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (Yjadf)

If the best argument for DeSantis is "electability" in a rigged system, you can bet lots more people will think he's an oligarch puppet.

Posted by: trev006 at November 09, 2022 08:21 AM (igJSL)

288 I don't Understand why the Jews of NY don't get out and get out now. Find a Red State and move.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 09, 2022 08:21 AM (dKiJG)

289 242 Tamara Lich and the truckers tried that in Canada. As perfect a protest as could be done. Still the mounted RCMP trampled them, confiscated their rigs, and threw them in the klink.
Posted by: James Smith at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (hvfJj)

Don't forget Chrystia Freeland seizing all their bank accounts.
Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (UnA8+)
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Never give up your guns. Ever.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 08:21 AM (5YMTI)

290 Republicans acting like it's an election year and discussing topics that voters are discussing instead of just sitting and waiting for votes because gas and food is expensive would have been nice, too.
Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (bm04m)

One of those "you have to run to actually win"...Dems may get to sit in basements, but we never can.

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:21 AM (exHjb)

291 270 CAC puts syrup on his french toast
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM

CAC puts syrup on David French.

I'll spare you the details on how they lick it off.

Posted by: Oh my! at November 09, 2022 08:21 AM (NCgXW)

292 Trump swans into the state, says the whole thing is rigged and the state GOP sucks, Republican voters stay home because they believe Trump.

And Trump gets scapegoated by a lazy and feckless GOP that sat on their butts while Democrats out-hustled them.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 08:22 AM (9yUzE)

293 I'm not smart enough to do election analysis.

For me it's a faith issue. Generations raised outside of the church and with no particular training in American history don't have the same moral and patriotic views as those that preceded them.

I saw some statistic that Democrats were +30 among 18-29 year olds.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2022 08:22 AM (xLqhd)

294 227, now do Virginia, Northern Virginia. To ask them to vote Republican is to ask them to vote for a pay reduction or less power. They run VA and MD. They absorb the tears of economic migrants from PA and NY. When the rest of the country loses, they win.

Posted by: Quint at November 09, 2022 08:22 AM (qsnKg)

295 When I voted yesterday, after showing proper ID I was handed a ballot which was numbered, the number was recorded, and some check mark was recorded. If I had also mailed in a ballot, which is opened today (for instance) I would hope that someone would notice that I was handed ballot #646 and shit can the mail-in.

But that all takes time. I imagine some locations might go to that effort, some not.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 08:16 AM (y3pKJ)
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It takes time, but the time taken is less than second in all probability, and likely much less than a second. Tabulation is done electronically. "Has a serial number for this voter already been registered?" It isn't difficult. Then there are design questions around precedence (which ballot should count - the earlier or the later, the mail-in or the in-person, etc.?), but detecting the condition and arbitrating it is not a difficult problem.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:22 AM (DU+/6)

296 246 Chris not rock

What he said. Ole Lockdown Down is now and has always been about one thing: Donald Trump.

Time for new conservative leadership that knows how to fight and WIN: Ron DeSantis.

Posted by: Candidus at November 09, 2022 08:22 AM (LtKhO)

297 I need to do the math and check to see. Starting with the 2020 results, I need to see which States are in play to flip and see how that adds up. With Democrats controlling VA and NV, I don't see a flip happening there. No Democrat-controlled state will be flipped. I think the only 2 states that are in play to flip are GA and AZ. And AZ only if Hobbs does not steal this election. If she does, AZ is blue for 2024. And the only flip is GA. And that definitely does not get a Republican candidate to an electoral win.

But I need to go confirm my assumptions...
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (Do5/p)

VA is an R state at the top...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:22 AM (exHjb)

298 I think this was a major blow for Trump. Come 2024 the nomination is likely DeSantis's if he wants it.

And looking at people like Vance I suspect that we are looking at "Trumpism without Trump" as the future.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2022 08:22 AM (ESjRY)

299 Modern America, at its social core, is probably tilted more towards individual liberty and small govt than at any point since before the Depression Era. But its still, by a bigger majority than you care to see here, a country that prefers Big Govt Moderate Socialism, as long as thats called something else. And its nothing new.
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Yep.

I want some of your stuff and don't you dare take any of my stuff is the American way, from the bluest antifa member to the MAGA retiree on SS.

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:23 AM (bm04m)

300 Happy Wednesday, All.

I’m done being cautiously optimistic. Now I’m fervently pessimistic.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 09, 2022 08:23 AM (DceKn)

301 279
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (a3Q+t)

I love the nuance!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:23 AM (hOUT3)

302 So we narrowly won the House (maybe) and did not win the Senate. It wasn’t hard to predict. It only took a basic, honest awareness both of the Left, of who they are and what they have achieved, and of who we are not and what we have allowed them to achieve.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 09, 2022 08:23 AM (H8QX8)

303 Think Fetterman will need his voice to text translator at his chair in the Senate? I don't, like it never happened.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 09, 2022 08:23 AM (BF0SU)

304 Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 09, 2022 08:08 AM

I had that auto-correct thing happen once. I was browser-connected.

Posted by: KT at November 09, 2022 08:23 AM (rrtZS)

305 Keep in mind the best non-Trump R presidential total we've seen is 62M.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (eYoxG)

306 Trump could probably win. What we're seeing in today's performance somewhat resembles the Obama problem, some R voters don't turn out if Trump isn't on the ballot. His personal popularity only carries over so much to the party.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 09, 2022 08:17 AM

I disagree. He won in 2020, but the election was rigged and stolen. Voters turned out for him in record numbers and the Deep State just executed a record rig and cheat operation to get rid of him. They will do the same thing again in 2024. Same if DeSantis runs. With zero consequences for the 2020 and 2022 election fraud, 2024 is guaranteed to be stolen.

This has nothing to do with popularity or well-run campaigns or campaign messages or quality of candidate anymore. 2016 was the last free and fair election. If nothing is done between now and 2024 about the rigged and stolen 2020 election and people are not punished with prison time, 2024 results will be a repeat of 2020.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (Do5/p)

307 Our county voters also easily approved a 1% sales tax for more graft and raises. Also parks, green space, roads and buildings. But mostly graft and raises.

Posted by: Ripley at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (MxEKc)

308 McConnell and Rove fucked this up once again.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (pb6ET)

309 Walker should win the runoff (though I'm not guaranting anything right now). So Senate should flip to 51 or 52.
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I guess no one is biting on my theory of Murkowski switching to D in order to prevent R control of the Senate (possibly with blessing from McConnell).

Posted by: Chuck at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (fs1hN)

310 Excluding Texas, I had someone I know from whats called the conservative left pitch a great case for returning the Cali west to Mexico, with the caveat being the people are included. At this point, its hard to say no to.
Oh...and some Austrian guy once said about the soviet union that: "All thats required is to kick down the door and the entire rotten structure will collapse." People. It feels like we are that structure, now. I'm not giving up, yet. But, man....the feeling that things are beyond a point of no return are hard to resist.

Posted by: Skeptical Schnauzer at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (h+7ej)

311 Red states got more red, blue states got more blue.

Right or wrong, Trump was the head coach of yesterday. He should get the blame. I was 100% on him running in 2024, last night was his chance to prove he could win.
I don't know, did he flip the states he has to have, specifically a R gov, SOS and legislature to clean up the election?
No, not even close.

I feel, and I could be wrong, all Trump did was his endorsement and a few rallies. Good enough to get them the nomination. Pitiful to get the win. The Nickel and Dime Billionaire strikes again. AFAIK, he was stingy with his PAC money (did he backstop a single race McConnell pulled funds?) and even more stingy with consulting and imaging (even more important for his 1st-time candidates). He ran the same plays from 2016, 2018, and 2020 in 2022-- he's now lost 3 in a row.
I'm just not seeing where Trump fixed what lost him the last 3 elections. So maybe AZ and GA go back red, but he still needs one more state-- and all three (PA, MI, WI) are now even farther out of reach.
Disappointing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (5EnGD)

312 So....

Considering that Florida and the Gulf Coast are likely the core of the New United States - who wins the Presidency there? Trump or DeSantis?

Posted by: blaster at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (pwExq)

313 294 227, now do Virginia, Northern Virginia. To ask them to vote Republican is to ask them to vote for a pay reduction or less power. They run VA and MD. They absorb the tears of economic migrants from PA and NY. When the rest of the country loses, they win.

Posted by: Quint at November 09, 2022 08:22 AM (qsnKg)

Youngkin 2024. He did not belittle feds or scare feds, so he split them enough to win. In a "we're all in this together, to bring common sense back to VA, way"...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (exHjb)

314 Posted by: trev006 at November 09, 2022 08:19 AM (igJSL)

True. Dems don't need tolerable candidates.

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (Zzbjj)

315 I will concede that the GOP didn't offer much. They had no unified message (or any message at all?). But aside from that, the Democrats have thoroughly destroyed the economy and everybody knows it. At least, insofar as most polling reflected. Do you go with the party who is causing you massive financial harm, just because the other party has no message? Personally, I'm going with the no message, because I know that the other party is the one inflicting massive economic damage on the country. But that's just me...
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:18 AM (sVtYq)
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The Dems had weak messaging, too - but it was consistent, I guess.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (DU+/6)

316 I am suspicious that what happened in MI is that a lot of GOP voters fled the state during Covid, accelerating the Great Sort.

There is a path that the GOP can win without the midwest and PA, but as said you need AZ, NV, GA, NC, and VA. VA seems hard, especially with Trump.

On the other hand, Trump would have won WI last night even with cheating.

Its too early to be having this conversation. We have two very strong dogs in Trump and DeSantis, and both will beat Witmer when she gets the nomination. If they are in the same ticket, it's a strong one.

That is why starting today everything will be trying to neutralize Trump (and probably DeSantis) Ron can't start a campaign immediately after winning reelection.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (5p7BC)

317 /sock fail

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (fs1hN)

318 I am just happy that the conservative legal immigrants won for our school board and odious Tom Malinowski lost and I can now toss out some of his "abortion is on the ballot " signs which I see on the roads.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (SOpdM)

319 I think this was a major blow for Trump. Come 2024 the nomination is likely DeSantis's if he wants it.

And looking at people like Vance I suspect that we are looking at "Trumpism without Trump" as the future.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2022 08:22 AM (ESjRY)
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Yeah, I think this is likely.

I'm most disappointed that the Democrats aren't viciously attacking each other this morning.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 08:25 AM (5YMTI)

320 One nice thing to come out of this:

It will be fun to see Mitch McConnell have to dance like a monkey on TikTok in 2026 to keep his seat.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2022 08:25 AM (xLqhd)

321 The Junta and MDM-MSM will declare this a mandate for doubling down on the intentional destruction of the past two years.

We ain't seen nothin' yet ... prepare accordingly.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 09, 2022 08:25 AM (K3TEc)

322 Disney is dropping like a rock, after mediocre earnings announced. It seems nobody goes to their resorts any more. At least we have that.

Posted by: Huck Follywood

When you're eating chef boyardee, there is no money for Disney.

People may want to, but at ~$150 per ticket (250 if you want hopper tickets) the crowds will be few and far between.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 09, 2022 08:25 AM (NW9xb)

323
It always included the City of Harrisburg. It's where all the Government Workers are, which means Public Sector Unions, who 99% vote Demoncrat.

Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 08:14 AM

Centre County PA 99% counted (Closer then I might have expected)

Fetterman (D) 32,076 52.2%
Oz (R) 27,820 45.3%

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 08:25 AM (y3pKJ)

324 298 I think this was a major blow for Trump. Come 2024 the nomination is likely DeSantis's if he wants it.

And looking at people like Vance I suspect that we are looking at "Trumpism without Trump" as the future.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2022 08:22 AM (ESjRY)

That would be a hilarious way for the Republican party to die. Sure being dependent on Trump's coattails isn't a sign of health, but lose Trump and you don't even have the coattails anymore.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 09, 2022 08:25 AM (eYoxG)

325 The Nickel and Dime Billionaire strikes again. AFAIK, he was stingy with his PAC money (did he backstop a single race McConnell pulled funds?)
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So about the leader of the Senate...

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:26 AM (bm04m)

326 Do you have any idea what you are ;letting yourself in for?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar

LOL - oh yeah. My wife never swears - except that one time at the MoMe.

"Jeebus, these f*ckers are crazy. I love them!! Can I take Berserker home?"

(His wife thought about it a long time. Then said "Better not.")

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 08:26 AM (LsEU/)

327 The Democrats ran Fetterman, and I hear that the Republicans picked a terrible candidate.

Huh.

Posted by: blaster at November 09, 2022 08:26 AM (pwExq)

328 272 This is going to be a major consultant class talking point- and it's bullshit. Fetterman was an absolute vegetable, and Oz not only dismantled him mentally but spoke well about major issues.
Posted by: trev006

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Oz was from New Jersey and only won in the primary because Trump endorsed him. The GOP doesn't get to win with carpetbaggers the way the Democrats do. Is it fair? No, of course not, but that's the reality.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:26 AM (4QgJj)

329 Tom Malinowski, trust fund red baby, is indeed a POS. But Tom Kean is Kevin McCarthy all over again. Comme ci, comme ca.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 08:26 AM (5YMTI)

330 It will be fun to see Mitch McConnell have to dance like a monkey on TikTok in 2026 to keep his seat.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2022 08:25 AM (xLqhd)

He'll retire.

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 08:26 AM (Zzbjj)

331
Perhaps now might be the time to reassess the value of the Republican Party as a political tool? I mean something has to eventually bring about a serious discussion about ridding ourselves of this Party.

I always hope it's their latest disaster, but so far, it always comes up snake-eyes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2022 08:26 AM (oINRc)

332
Considering that Florida and the Gulf Coast are likely the core of the New United States - who wins the Presidency there? Trump or DeSantis?
Posted by: blaster

The evidence strongly suggests itd be DeSantis country. Hard to see it any other way.

Posted by: Skeptical Schnauzer at November 09, 2022 08:27 AM (h+7ej)

333 Fetterman (D) 32,076 52.2%
Oz (R) 27,820 45.3%

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It's my understanding Fetterman's Monster got more votes than Biden. Who got more votes than Obama. Because population increases or something.

Go ahead and square that circle.

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:27 AM (bm04m)

334 Unless something changes, the forces allied against Trump in R party will not let him win, no matter what sacrifices they have to make. It's an existential threat to their power if populists take over the party. I'd love to vote for Trump in 2024 to shove it in their wrinkled corrupted faces, but I'm thinking that's a losing proposition.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 09, 2022 08:27 AM (fs1hN)

335 He'll retire.

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 08:26 AM (Zzbjj)

.....

Most likely.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2022 08:28 AM (xLqhd)

336 Oz was from New Jersey and only won in the primary because Trump endorsed him. The GOP doesn't get to win with carpetbaggers the way the Democrats do. Is it fair? No, of course not, but that's the reality.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:26 AM (4QgJj)
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His major competitors in the primary are from Connecticut and California, so residency wasn't the issue. The issue was Mastriano dragged the PA ticket into the gutter.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 08:28 AM (5YMTI)

337 On the other hand, Trump would have won WI last night even with cheating.

Posted by: Dave in Fla

Evers re-elected?

Posted by: Miklos no comprende at November 09, 2022 08:28 AM (SP4pi)

338 This has nothing to do with popularity or well-run campaigns or campaign messages or quality of candidate anymore. 2016 was the last free and fair election. If nothing is done between now and 2024 about the rigged and stolen 2020 election and people are not punished with prison time, 2024 results will be a repeat of 2020.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton

The GOPe writ large just lost us TWO EFFING YEARS of time to research, document, expose, and correct voting fraud.
Forget it Clyde, 2024 is in the bag and it is NOT our bag!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:28 AM (hOUT3)

339 VA is an R state at the top...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:22 AM

You're right, thanks. Youngkin is now Governor. So that flips 13 electoral votes. AZ would flip another 11 electoral votes. GA would flip another 16 electoral votes. That's 40.

Which brings the count from 306-232 to 266-272.

So you're right. Flip GA, VA and AZ and it's possible. Which is probably why the Deep State is fighting so hard to steal AZ right now.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:28 AM (Do5/p)

340 The appeal of DeSantis is his age, which he has less of than Trump, and his discipline, which he has a great deal more.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 08:28 AM (9yUzE)

341 I don't get the World Cup soccer. It's a bunch of guys running around and falling down. Sorry, not interested.

Posted by: dantesed at November 09, 2022 08:29 AM (88xKn)

342 "If the best argument for DeSantis is "electability" in a rigged system, you can bet lots more people will think he's an oligarch puppet."

This "DeSantis is an oligarch puppet" take is deranged. What he is is very popular, very effective governor and politician. He rebuilt and grew the Republican Party in Florida. He took on the press and won. He took on big business and won.

The reason he's electable (and elected) is he's really, really good at the job.

Trump wasn't. Everybody HE CHOSE was always failing him. Jeffries, his choice, failed him (according to Trump). Barr, his choice, failed him. Pence, his choice, failed him. Tillerson, his choice, failed him. ...

Posted by: Chris not rock at November 09, 2022 08:29 AM (Yjadf)

343 Also a big thanks to Dave in Florida.

Same as last time and in any endeavor (sports comes to mind), you can get the data right but can't account for the cheating. Thanks for the hard work.

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:29 AM (bm04m)

344 This has nothing to do with popularity or well-run campaigns or campaign messages or quality of candidate anymore. 2016 was the last free and fair election. If nothing is done between now and 2024 about the rigged and stolen 2020 election and people are not punished with prison time, 2024 results will be a repeat of 2020.

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This can't be stressed enough. And let me assure you, nothing will be done between now and '24. I acknowledge some inroads in some states have been made to tamp down on cheating. But as I said earlier, Dominion will still rule the day, along with a host of other bag of tricks Democrats use to "fortify" the results.

I don't know what it truly will portend for 2024 and beyond, but in all honesty and with as much optimism as I can muster, it doesn't look promising. The swing states are forming up to be blue havens for SOS, Gov, and legislatures and we all know what that means in a presidential election.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:29 AM (sVtYq)

345 I am suspicious that what happened in MI is that a lot of GOP voters fled the state during Covid, accelerating the Great Sort. ...
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (5p7BC)
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There has been a ton of internal migration over the past several years. I still don't know what flavor it was and whether the blue-to-red outflow were colonists or refugees.

I was a refugee. I made my state redder by moving here, and my old state bluer by leaving. If the refugees outnumber the colonists by a reasonable margin, then the red states stay red and get redder while the blue states stay blue and get bluer. The swing states go one way or the other and the idea of a swing state essentially vanishes, which stabilizes - for better or worse - the electoral vote math.

Assuming that demography is the key factor, anyway.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:29 AM (DU+/6)

346 311 Red states got more red, blue states got more blue.

yep. and I went to sleep in a purple state, that just recently went red, and woke up in California.

funny, that.

but clarifying. we plan on retiring in two years, and were definitely going to stay here in PA. we have a home in the central-north area and we love it there.

but nah. now we will liquidate and head to Florida where both of us have family. I was hoping for Arizona but we don't know anyone there and at this point I think things are destined to get very sporty, soon. Would rather be with kin nearby.

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 09, 2022 08:30 AM (w0NJk)

347 GP seems to be the only one with his head on straight this morning. We did not have terrible candidates, but, like illegal immigration, fraud is legal in a lawless land.

Have a nice day.

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 08:30 AM (Zzbjj)

348 The math is that Lake will win in Arizona. It's going to be close for Masters. I told you counting in AZ would be like this.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:01 AM (5p7BC)

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Before I went to bed, I grabbed numbers from a few races on the election results webpage for Maricopa County. I wanted to have a baseline to see how far the gap would close from the initial dump, which as Dave mentioned, was the expected behavior. Below is the election for county attorney. The update time displayed was 9:51PM.

This morning, I grabbed the updated numbers, showing an update time of 1:54AM).

21:30 11-8
GUNNIGLE, J (D) Votes: 429,248 53%
MITCHELL, R (R) Votes: 374,521 47%

01:30 11-9
MITCHELL, R (R) Votes: 531,016 52%
GUNNIGLE, J (D) Votes: 485,790 48%

If the process plays out similarly to November 2020 and the August 2022 primary, Republican totals should continue to increase until the voting is done. I remain hopeful as long as that that pattern continues.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 09, 2022 08:30 AM (TNyrE)

349 So Dems cheated...again.

I'm shocked.

And out of fucks.

Posted by: creeper at November 09, 2022 08:30 AM (/41A7)

350 The cheat is on!

Oh-oh-whoa-oh, oh-oh-whoa-oh
Tell me can you feel it? Tell me can you feel it? Tell me can you feel it?

Posted by: Glenn Frey at November 09, 2022 08:30 AM (4I/2K)

351 I see the Trump/DeSantis wars have started up. Catch you later, everybody.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2022 08:30 AM (SOpdM)

352 ... Ron can't start a campaign immediately after winning reelection.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (5p7BC)
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Yes he can, by doing his job as he has been doing it and continuing to move the ball. That isn't formal campaigning, but it adds to his resume, gives him more talking points, keeps him in the press, and keeps his name known for when he does start campaigning if he chooses to.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:30 AM (DU+/6)

353 The country is generally fine with the following: open borders, state-led genital mutilation of children, decimation of US energy . . ."

Posted by: Mad Max in VA

I disagree. Had there been film of border crossing once a week by the MSM, people would have changed their mind. Tapping SPR to lower prices from June's high also played a big part IMHO.

With presidential election in two years, hopefully there is more focus nationwide on these things and the others you list.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 09, 2022 08:30 AM (NW9xb)

354 (His wife thought about it a long time. Then said "Better not.")
Posted by: Tonypete a

TXMoMe wisdom!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:30 AM (hOUT3)

355 Sad morning. How a man with a baseball size tu-ma attached to his neck gets elected shows how ingrained the process is to destroy our society. Plans for my retirement will now be drastically revamped.

Posted by: sidney at November 09, 2022 08:31 AM (Uy/WF)

356 Not voting is done, counting is done. Sheesh.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 09, 2022 08:31 AM (TNyrE)

357 322 Disney is dropping like a rock, after mediocre earnings announced. It seems nobody goes to their resorts any more. At least we have that.

Posted by: Huck Follywood

For a family of 4 to eat at Crystal Palace it's 194.00 dollars. It's over priced and not worth it anymore.

I use to go every year and meet up with my Brother and his family we have a lot of good memories of our Kids growing up and you can don't worry about driving when you had a drink now you HAVE to buy genie plus at midnight then at 7am get your rides in and pay 20 per person for the rides you want,

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 09, 2022 08:31 AM (dKiJG)

358 299, I was a Rand Paul guy in 2014. I had the sticker on my truck long before he entered the race. Now most Repubs love him after he proved his loyalty.

SoMe rando mentioned Paul to me recently as a presidential contender. I laughed and told him no chance, no way. On both sides you have to promise free stuff. Paul has nothing to give 51 percent, so he has no chance to be pres.

Posted by: Quint at November 09, 2022 08:31 AM (qsnKg)

359 I'm most disappointed that the Democrats aren't viciously attacking each other this morning.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 08:25 AM (5YMTI)
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Why would they? In their hive mentality, yesterday was an amazing success for them. It's incredible to witness, actually. No independent thinking at all.

"We are Legion" indeed...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 08:31 AM (YIVH2)

360 If you haven't recognized the truth, the election of Fetterman is the ultimate in Smell The Glove. I laughed when Spanberger was able to find a loose thumb drive with enough votes to save her win when she had lost it. The wonderful thing about mail in voting is you can mail in as many votes as you need. Remember Murphy won re election after losing his race by a found thumb drive in Newark. Its very simple what needs to happe and that is every Pubbie running for office should just, wink nod, mail themselves a winning amount of ballots.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 08:31 AM (xSnmX)

361 I will not accept that much of the Democrat wins last night were due to cheating. That is the lazy excuse. The wins IMO are because we do not have a politically educated voting populace and we have several generations now who live comfortable lives with very fluid moral compasses. And they vote. Here in Michigan businesses are still begging for employees, salaries are still rising, restaurants are full even during the week, sports stadiums are full and people seem to be doing fine. Tudor Dixon was a radio personality who worked as a marketing rep for a foundry and was a exec director for a metals business org before she was diagnosed with breast cancer and left. Emerged back on radio. She had no name recognition for months until the Dems found and spliced a radio interview of her saying no abortion even if the mothers life in danger. That commercial played daily for two months now.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 09, 2022 08:31 AM (0kICs)

362 I disagree. Had there been film of border crossing once a week by the MSM, people would have changed their mind. Tapping SPR to lower prices from June's high also played a big part IMHO.
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Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal a

Better fill up today!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:31 AM (hOUT3)

363 By 2024 it is likely that we will be Florida residents.

So, yes, making a red state redder and a mostly blue state bluer.

Posted by: blaster at November 09, 2022 08:32 AM (pwExq)

364 I disagree. He won in 2020, but the election was rigged and stolen. Voters turned out for him in record numbers and the Deep State just executed a record rig and cheat operation to get rid of him. They will do the same thing again in 2024. Same if DeSantis runs. With zero consequences for the 2020 and 2022 election fraud, 2024 is guaranteed to be stolen.

This has nothing to do with popularity or well-run campaigns or campaign messages or quality of candidate anymore. 2016 was the last free and fair election. If nothing is done between now and 2024 about the rigged and stolen 2020 election and people are not punished with prison time, 2024 results will be a repeat of 2020.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (Do5/p)

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This is and has been my position since The Steal, articulated much better than I could. Thanks (and right-turn), Clyde ... ;-)

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 09, 2022 08:32 AM (K3TEc)

365 322 Disney is dropping like a rock, after mediocre earnings announced. It seems nobody goes to their resorts any more. At least we have that.

Posted by: Huck Follywood
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In a few months no one will be able to afford to go to a Disney resort, except for the "elite" of course...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 08:32 AM (YIVH2)

366 334 All propositions are losing ones right now, for us.

The only winning proposition is the Lord’s return.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 09, 2022 08:32 AM (DceKn)

367 Read something in one of the blogs that the Dems were promising monetary handouts for people to heat their homes in some of the cities up north? Didn't pay much attention to the specifics. Then we have the increase % in social security pmts and the promise to eliminate some student debt.

Again we cannot compete with the Dems handing out our taxpayer money as bribes

Posted by: Floridachick at November 09, 2022 08:32 AM (Q87sy)

368 Fetterman (D) 32,076 52.2%
Oz (R) 27,820 45.3%

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This goes beyond fraud. PA wanted Fetterman. Letting that sink in is...is...oh hell, I don't even have the right word.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:32 AM (sVtYq)

369 Looking at Biden, Fetterman, Veep Throat, (the list can go on and on until Pixy says 'stop') - Is it fair to say that mental impairment is a condition of running as a Dem?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 08:32 AM (LsEU/)

370 "I'm not smart enough to do election analysis.
For me it's a faith issue. Generations raised outside of the church and with no particular training in American history don't have the same moral and patriotic views as those that preceded them.
I saw some statistic that Democrats were +30 among 18-29 year olds."
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2022 08:22 AM (xLqhd)

You're obviously correct. Which is why I'm not optimistic on the immediate fate of our nation. We have no national figures that understands any of this much less can speak on it. Right or wrong, good and evil are just vague concepts to our youth. The individuals leading the church are failing us, have been for decades and here we are.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 09, 2022 08:32 AM (qH6FZ)

371 I will not accept that much of the Democrat wins last night were due to cheating. That is the lazy excuse. The wins IMO are because we do not have a politically educated voting populace

and we have several generations now who live comfortable lives with

welfare

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM (RvuYE)

372 298 I think this was a major blow for Trump. Come 2024 the nomination is likely DeSantis's if he wants it.

And looking at people like Vance I suspect that we are looking at "Trumpism without Trump" as the future.

Can't just look at state capitals as feeders for Washington. America's problems are at the state level too and need fixing there. Who's the guy that supposed to replace DeSantis?

Posted by: James Smith at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM (hvfJj)

373 IIRC today or the 14th is the last day of however oil is sold from the strategic reserves.

Just in time for the holiday crush.

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM (bm04m)

374 I'm in NEPA and there is no way uncle Fester won by a large margin.

I will never trust elections again. 2020 was bad, this was way worse.

Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM (qIZar)

375 Here's a consideration: OR has had mail-in voting for well long enough to figure out how to beat it.
All the blue states that can are now going to go to full mail ballots.
Meanwhile, the GOP is running a Power-I offense in a passing league.
I mean, we lose before a single ballot is cast.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM (5EnGD)

376
I disagree. Had there been film of border crossing once a week by the MSM, people would have changed their mind. Tapping SPR to lower prices from June's high also played a big part IMHO.

With presidential election in two years, hopefully there is more focus nationwide on these things and the others you list.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 09, 2022 08:30 AM (NW9xb)

I agree with you - the Dems went all in to prop the economy, so that it could torch under Rs (raiding the SOP, passing bennies left and right)...now, they forgot to let Rs win...so it's all on them...

They have made their own bed for the next 2 years...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM (exHjb)

377 With zero consequences for the 2020 and 2022 election fraud, 2024 is guaranteed to be stolen.

We are literally at Vote From The Rooftops scenario if you don't like the current corrupt power structure.

I think in Red States that went through the trouble of reducing opportunities for fraud elections have some value yet there isn't a congress critter in all of the FUSA who represents We The People.

The point being, people in power don't want to disrupt the mechanism that got them into power.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM (3hSHB)

378 Morning.

Considering last night's results...Guess maybe we should start seeking more support from pink haired TikTokkers and big booty'd Instagram sluts.

Posted by: Robert at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM (vtqXc)

379 319 I'm most disappointed that the Democrats aren't viciously attacking each other this morning.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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The Dems are feeling good because they overperformed, but objectively they still lost (assuming that the GOP now has the House). Biden can't pass anything anymore; the Squad goes to the back bench. If they want to do victory laps, great! They're not going to fix any of their problems. When the dust settles on this election cycle, the consensus will be that the GOP blew it, for a variety of reasons, not that the Dems won. Hopefully we'll fix those problems, but the Democrats don't stand a chance of fixing theirs.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM (4QgJj)

380 2016 was the last free and fair election. If nothing is done between now and 2024 about the rigged and stolen 2020 election and people are not punished with prison time, 2024 results will be a repeat of 2020.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (Do5/p)
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I strongly disagree that 2016 was a "free and fair" election. It's just that Trump overcame their shenanigans.

I have my doubts about "free and fair" elections going back to at least 2000...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM (YIVH2)

381 Lycoming county definitely pulled some shady shit.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM (TiGPW)

382 I got absolutely smoked on PredictIt last night. At this point, my only chance to break even is a Senate win in AZ. Terrible night in the betting markets for team R.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2022 08:34 AM (s1Y5g)

383 Generations raised outside of the church and with no particular training in American history don't have the same moral and patriotic views as those that preceded them.

Nope. I give you The Greatest Generation. All the patriotism and church going you would ever want out of a cohort. And they voted staunchly Democrat. Even through Korea and Vietnam.

They were the first generation of Big Government. Big Government can blend quite well with Religion and Patriotism.

Posted by: Jaguar at November 09, 2022 08:34 AM (go3dL)

384 357 322 Disney is dropping like a rock, after mediocre earnings announced. It seems nobody goes to their resorts any more. At least we have that
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A trip to Disney was expensive. Now with Bidenflation its more than 20% more expensive. All that money to be asshole to elbow with diversity crazies really isn't too appetizing.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 08:34 AM (xSnmX)

385 I'm grateful for your post this morning, J.J., and I agree with your take 100%. To be honest, I fully expected to see "This is Trump's Fault."

Posted by: IrishEi at November 09, 2022 08:34 AM (3ImbR)

386 Think it's time to retire.

I ain't cleaning up the Senate shitter after Old Lumpy gets done using it.

Posted by: LeRoy Washington, Senate Custodian at November 09, 2022 08:34 AM (QIOpg)

387 Well the Rugby World Cup is coming to America which I am looking forward too.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 09, 2022 08:34 AM (dKiJG)

388
You're obviously correct. Which is why I'm not optimistic on the immediate fate of our nation. We have no national figures that understands any of this much less can speak on it

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This is not true. Democrats and Democrat candidates for office speak about it in black churches constantly.

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:35 AM (bm04m)

389 Now CO has legal weed AND legal psychedelic mushrooms.

Posted by: DB at November 09, 2022 08:35 AM (geLO8)

390 Ron can't start a campaign immediately after winning reelection.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (5p7BC)
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Yes he can, by doing his job as he has been doing it and continuing to move the ball. That isn't formal campaigning, but it adds to his resume, gives him more talking points, keeps him in the press, and keeps his name known for when he does start campaigning if he chooses to.

_____________

Yup, political achievements are a much stronger selling point. Trump, was and still is short on political achievements. DeSantis has been scoring victory after victory in all the things most people (not just conservatives) care about. Results matter, and he delivers.

Trump, bless him, and I can't get on board that this was his fault, but what luster he had is gone and its time for him to step aside. He tried. He really did.

Posted by: McLurkerson at November 09, 2022 08:35 AM (wNDOJ)

391 This goes beyond fraud. PA wanted Fetterman. Letting that sink in is...is...oh hell, I don't even have the right word.

it's humiliating. I can't stay here.

he's young, he'll be in the Senate for ages and ages.

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 09, 2022 08:35 AM (w0NJk)

392 I have my doubts about "free and fair" elections going back to at least 2000...

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Can I sit here?

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:36 AM (bm04m)

393 >I guess no one is biting on my theory of Murkowski switching to D in order to prevent R control of the Senate (possibly with blessing from McConnell).

Posted by: Chuck

I floated it last night

Posted by: DB at November 09, 2022 08:36 AM (geLO8)

394 Perhaps now might be the time to reassess the value of the Republican Party as a political tool? I mean something has to eventually bring about a serious discussion about ridding ourselves of this Party.

I always hope it's their latest disaster, but so far, it always comes up snake-eyes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2022 08:26 AM (oINRc)

The Republican Party is too damaged and too self-sabotaged to function. A house divided against itself cannot stand, and the Beltway establishment faction is certainly divided against its voter base.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 09, 2022 08:36 AM (MIb2C)

395 While the stupid fuckers freeze this winter in NEPA think about the vote you cast for the brain damaged Fetterman. Let that sink in tou dumb fucking idiots.

Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2022 08:36 AM (fuCr+)

396 387 Well the Rugby World Cup is coming to America which I am looking forward too.

oh that is cool! good news

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 09, 2022 08:36 AM (w0NJk)

397 he's young, he'll be in the Senate for ages and ages.

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That's not true and you know it. Stop being cruel to that poor sick man.

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:36 AM (bm04m)

398 393 >I guess no one is biting on my theory of Murkowski switching to D in order to prevent R control of the Senate (possibly with blessing from McConnell).

Posted by: Chuck

I floated it last night
Posted by: DB at November 09, 2022 08:36 AM (geLO

She may not win yet...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:36 AM (exHjb)

399 372 298 I think this was a major blow for Trump. Come 2024 the nomination is likely DeSantis's if he wants it.

And looking at people like Vance I suspect that we are looking at "Trumpism without Trump" as the future.

Can't just look at state capitals as feeders for Washington. America's problems are at the state level too and need fixing there. Who's the guy that supposed to replace DeSantis?
Posted by: James Smith at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM (hvfJj)

I'm a huge Trump superfan, but last night was a loss for him. Yes, we see the cheat in full effect, but the siren song of Trumpism without Trump will be too great for DeSantis to abandon. It's a shame, because I don't know the DeSantis heir that will continue what has been started there. With a strong Trump, it could be done. With DeSantis called in to save the national GOP, not so sure.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2022 08:37 AM (s1Y5g)

400 I see the same seeds of defeat over and over. You don't get it. Fetterman wins but Oz was a bad candidate. No, Fetterman was a bad candidate too but that didn't stop the Left. They got out the vote to elect him. Trump is more experienced, better name recognition, less reliant on big donors. So let's run DeSantis instead.

We are as blind to it as the Left is about their messaging. Stop worrying about the quality of the candidate. We do a poor job of getting out the vote. We need a thousand Scott Presslers, and somehow the money never goes for that. At this point, we are headed for bad times and they are removing the peaceful ways to change that.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 09, 2022 08:37 AM (uz3Px)

401 he's young, he'll be in the Senate for ages and ages.
Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 09, 2022 08:35 AM (w0NJk)

Uh, he's a 400 lb homunculus who has already had 1 stroke, he won't be around for long.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2022 08:37 AM (UuD2k)

402 I am suspicious that what happened in MI is that a lot of GOP voters fled the state during Covid, accelerating the Great Sort. ...
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (5p7BC)

I think he same has happened in NY and PA.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 09, 2022 08:37 AM (pb6ET)

403
This goes beyond fraud. PA wanted Fetterman. Letting that sink in is...is...oh hell, I don't even have the right word.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:32 AM

The numbers that you posted (which I initially posted) were just for Centre County, Pa - not the entire state. Oz has not conceded yet, nor should he.

Shapiro (D), though is our next Governor.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 08:37 AM (y3pKJ)

404 I want some of your stuff and don't you dare take any of my stuff is the American way, from the bluest antifa member to the MAGA retiree on SS.

One real problem we have is that D voters get PAID for voting D. No, not the LIVs, they get Biden-flation but...they apparently don't understand that.

Vote R and you get corporate tax cuts, which yes in the long term benefit most people. But as we've seen for 20 years now that message doesn't resonate. You know what would? Cash payouts for people forced to get the clot shot. For people victimized by illegals. For people buying a gun in a high crime neighborhood. For people putting their kids in a private school.

Find a way to PAY right leaning people. Give them an immediate and concrete reason to vote R.

And if you do win on this platform raise taxes on D aligned voting blocks to pay for it to keep inflation in check.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2022 08:38 AM (ESjRY)

405 We ain't voting our way out of this.

DeSantis will not be allowed to win either.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 09, 2022 08:38 AM (C1rbv)

406 Stop being cruel to that poor sick man.
Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:36 AM (bm04m)
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Why should we stop being cruel to him?

He's now in a position to inflict intolerable cruelty on the rest of us *spit*

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 08:38 AM (YIVH2)

407 For up from the ashes of disaster
Grow the roses of success!

Posted by: GOPe at November 09, 2022 08:38 AM (4I/2K)

408

Many of these hotly contested races lost well outside the margin of steal because over 50% of the country is made up of mentally ill perverts, heavily indocinated communists and sniveling cowards who would rather be told what to think eat drive and speak than live free, irrationally furious because they loath themselves and must redirect their justifiable self-contempt at us.

Their soulless hate drives them to drag us to doom with them, and they laugh as they do so.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 09, 2022 08:38 AM (jPBC0)

409 Right now, it appears that all the 'collar counties' are deep Cook County blue. Voting took over an hour in a traditionally quiet time. Very few masks and only on younger people, and nobody chatted to neighbors in line.

Pritzker Plantation peons delivered. Really sad.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 09, 2022 08:38 AM (MIKMs)

410 Thank God I'm leaving PA. I am so ashamed.

Posted by: mpfs at November 09, 2022 08:39 AM (fuCr+)

411 The Fetterman thing is a curiosity. Sort of a big FU to the normals. He is a guaranteed, reliable vote for the Democrats.

But any Dem would have been. Weird.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2022 08:39 AM (Q4IgG)

412 Correct me if I am wrong, and hope I am, isn't Cali now holding the cards as to who controls the house? Aren't they still counting votes for a week or two?

Posted by: Floridachick at November 09, 2022 08:39 AM (Q87sy)

413 They have made their own bed for the next 2 years...
Posted by: Nova local

It is nice that you think there will be consequences...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:39 AM (hOUT3)

414 This goes beyond fraud. PA wanted Fetterman. Letting that sink in is...is...oh hell, I don't even have the right word.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:32 AM (sVtYq)
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It's absolutely fraud. 10,000 votes is nothing to them. Hell, they created millions in 2020, with hundreds of thousands of them in PA alone.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 09, 2022 08:40 AM (3ImbR)

415 This is and has been my position since The Steal, articulated much better than I could. Thanks (and right-turn), Clyde ... ;-)

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Should add that I also believe they tried to rig the 2016 election for Hillary, but Trump unexpectedly crushed the Margin of Fraud -- which they determined would NEVER be allowed to happen again, and hence the installation of the Vegetable Puppet in 2020.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 09, 2022 08:40 AM (K3TEc)

416 "The worst possible midterm outcome for the administration is to keep enough seats to still own the events till 2024 while losing enough to make domestic strong-arming impossible.

They have lost all strategic flexibility and are stuck with barely defensible positions with the same command personnel. And 2024 coming at the end of 2 likely rough years."

That said, WHY is our national politics organized to keep as many people as mad at each other for as long as possible?

Posted by: Piercello at November 09, 2022 08:40 AM (ajoh7)

417 410 Thank God I'm leaving PA. I am so ashamed.

me too mpfs

this sucks

I look around and love my state but clearly it's lost its mind

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 09, 2022 08:40 AM (w0NJk)

418 The next thing to watch for is the CIA/FBI/Manhattan Privlidge/California Kow Tow Machine going after DeSantis. I would imagine DOJ will find some reason to investigate DeStantis for something. Our Masters can not stand being questioned.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 08:40 AM (xSnmX)

419 313 Youngkin 2024. He did not belittle feds or scare feds, so he split them enough to win. In a "we're all in this together, to bring common sense back to VA, way"...
Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (exHjb)

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True. He made the wine moms that infest this area "comfortable" as opposed to Trump who they & their Facebook friends wouldn't dare vote for. That said, credit also goes to Harmeet Dhillon and groups that worked diligently to monitor the election. It also helped that jurisdictions far from NoVa held back their tallies until Fairfax & other blue areas, which were ripe for fraud, reported in.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at November 09, 2022 08:41 AM (V66kM)

420 Why should we stop being cruel to him?

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It was a sarcastic joke making fun of his health and potential for a ruptured lump at any moment. See me calling him "Fetterman's Monster" in 333

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:41 AM (bm04m)

421 This is not true. Democrats and Democrat candidates for office speak about it in black churches constantly.
Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:35 AM (bm04m)

Teaching a false faith, leading people not to salvation but to ruin. And no national figures in the church call them out, because they don't want to be racist or something. The vast majority of black church's now preach CRT, not Christianity. And David French and his ilk wave their boney fingers at us..

Posted by: lowandslow at November 09, 2022 08:41 AM (qH6FZ)

422 311 Trump was the head coach of yesterday. He should get the blame. I was 100% on him running in 2024, last night was his chance to prove he could win.
I don't know, did he flip the states he has to have, specifically a R gov, SOS and legislature to clean up the election? No, not even close... He ran the same plays from 2016, 2018, and 2020 in 2022-- he's now lost 3 in a row. I'm just not seeing where Trump fixed what lost him the last 3 elections. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Trump doesn't learn. He still thinks it's 2016 and he's running against Hillary Clinton.

It should be obvious from his presidency that Trump simply doesn't learn. He didn't grow in office. He didn't become better at negotiating with Congress. He didn't make any progress against the deep state. He slunk out of Washington with his tail between his legs, unable to get the Pentagon to obey his orders to leave Afghanistan.

The deep state and the establishment got caught off-guard in 2016, but they learned. They figured out how to beat Trump. And he's too stubborn or stupid to adapt.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:41 AM (4QgJj)

423 That said, WHY is our national politics organized to keep as many people as mad at each other for as long as possible?
Posted by: Piercello at November 09, 2022 08:40 AM (ajoh7)

Mad and gives us the false impression that we have any control over how we are governed.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2022 08:42 AM (UuD2k)

424 Good morning. Or not.

We’ll, yay for Vance I guess.

Posted by: lizzy at November 09, 2022 08:42 AM (I/doM)

425 Anyway, Trump was not even on the radar as the nominee in 2014.
And none of the known names at that time made it either.

So I'm hopeful that repeats, that the eventual nominee hasn't been revealed for 2024.

Course, that's catching lightning in a bottle twice.

And we're not even close to the country that elected him the first time anyway.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2022 08:42 AM (5EnGD)

426 My family will be contributing three Walker run-off votes in December. We are in one of the Atlanta suburb counties (Not Fulton but still blue). Any opinions on whether we should use a dominion machine or a drop-box to vote? Very sad that I don't have confidence in our votes being fairly counted but that's where we are and I want the best chance for it.

Posted by: SamIam at November 09, 2022 08:42 AM (oasF3)

427 I want some of your stuff and don't you dare take any of my stuff is the American way, from the bluest antifa member to the MAGA retiree on SS.

At least the MAGA retiree on SS actually PAID something in, unlike Pantyfa, WIC & EBT recipients.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2022 08:42 AM (RvuYE)

428 Cont. Whitmer meanwhile was shown sashaying around light industrial businesses that she claimed to help bring to Michigan along with a chip manufacturer and new auto research. The Democrat message was one of freedom from oppressive religious and government restrictions on abortion, that we survived the pandemic due to their difficult but necessary decisions on masks etc.(still reinforced daily in medical facilities here) and reversing business destruction from the pandemic. The Republicans had almost no message.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 09, 2022 08:42 AM (0kICs)

429 he's young, he'll be in the Senate for ages and ages.

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He'll probably die from another stroke sometime in the future. Nonetheless, once he's 6ft under, you get Cruella De Fetterman as a replacement. Which Joey Choo Choo let out of the bag a couple weeks back.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:42 AM (sVtYq)

430 DeSantis may be allowed to win. Depends on how savvy he is vis a vis institutional DC. Navy lawyer once upon a time. That's a good start.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 09, 2022 08:42 AM (CgtKh)

431 She had no name recognition for months until the Dems found and spliced a radio interview of her saying no abortion even if the mothers life in danger. That commercial played daily for two months now.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 09, 2022 08:31 AM

Yep and despite the tyranny of Wretched-Nessel-Benson for 2+ years from Plandemic policies to destroying the state's energy industry to pushing gender dysphoria and child sexual mutilation and child sexual exploitation in schools, among plenty of other bad policies, Michigan voted en masse for everything Whitmer and Democrats wanted. The only good thing that I have left to root for is John James becoming my Congressman. But that's it. Everything here in Michigan was an utter disaster.

And I called this summer of 2021. I stated that Wretched would get re-elected in a landslide, because this state is full of radical Karens (and has radical Karens in charge of the voting process).

I am a broken record, but this is what happens when the left's long march through the institution succeeds. They control everything and they are not giving power back to the peasants.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:43 AM (Do5/p)

432 It was a sarcastic joke making fun of his health and potential for a ruptured lump at any moment. See me calling him "Fetterman's Monster" in 333
Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:41 AM (bm04m)
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As far as I'm concerned, he, FJB, and any other Democrat cretin now in office has well and truly earned any of the cruel verbal barbs Ace and the rest of us can throw their way.

They are EVIL and they mean to see the rest of us DEAD.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 08:43 AM (YIVH2)

433 Boebert lost thanks to redistricting.

Posted by: lizzy at November 09, 2022 08:43 AM (I/doM)

434 413 They have made their own bed for the next 2 years...
Posted by: Nova local

It is nice that you think there will be consequences...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:39 AM (hOUT3)

I'm betting Repubs didn't think there'd be consequences on Nov 5, 1930, after they held on, either...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:43 AM (exHjb)

435 Complete lunacy that Fetterman could have been elected. Crime enablers are very happy this morning in PA, MI, and NY.

Posted by: Ziba at November 09, 2022 08:43 AM (4h9M3)

436 That said, WHY is our national politics organized to keep as many people as mad at each other for as long as possible?
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Why did the CIA warn Bolsonaro not to contest the outcome of Brazil's presidential election weeks before the election?

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 08:43 AM (xSnmX)

437 Yes he can, by doing his job as he has been doing it and continuing to move the ball. That isn't formal campaigning, but it adds to his resume, gives him more talking points, keeps him in the press, and keeps his name known for when he does start campaigning if he chooses to.
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I should have added in the backdrop of Trump declaring next week, which he will. DeSantis can't start an active campaign, he has to wait for Trump to somehow fail.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (5p7BC)

438 Correct me if I am wrong, and hope I am, isn't Cali now holding the cards as to who controls the house? Aren't they still counting votes for a week or two?

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That whole lottery thing was probably a coincedence.

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (bm04m)

439 Sorry to hear about boebert. She said alot of good stuff, but visiting leftwing we sites she had some real doozeys if stupid tweets.

Trump,Elon,Boebert, etc all desperately need a smart filter between their own thoughts and social media. Just an extra minute in the brain oven, a second thought pass can really tighten up the point and shave off the rough edges where the left can shove crowbars.

Credit where it's due, the right is getting smarter about how we respond and deal with the media but we are starting from a real low point.

If you want to say stupid shit on Twitter and still get reelected you need to join the party of AOC. It is not a luxury we have.

Posted by: Shiggz (defective slave) at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (0SrVS)

440 181 IF Lake pulls it out
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 09, 2022 08:07 AM (/6GbT)

dude looks like a lady

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (us2H3)

441 I again want to repeat that my animosity to the DD is focused on the Telescope Guy and Jeff B

Not gonna hold it against anyone, but I don’t get how anyone here volunteers for DDHQ after CAC went on national media and said Ace, the cobs, and the commenters are racist. Especially since he was actually mad that we made fun of a picture of a rock he’d posted.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (zm+d5)

442 Thank God I'm leaving PA. I am so ashamed.
Posted by: mpfs

You'll be glad you did. I've told this story before: Sold the family farm there. Eight years, $400,000 in taxes, licenses, fees, penalties, permits, and payoffs (did I say that part out loud?) later - it was accomplished and the scraps were distributed to the beneficiaries.

Never going back.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (LsEU/)

443
In the "Life Goes On" department, while watering the plants on the porch this morning, I saw a newly hatched Monarch drying its wings.

We have had an outstanding crop of butterflies born here at Schloss Hadrian this fall. We've encouraged milkweed plants in the garden, which the caterpillars love. Lots of places for the chrysales to grow. This morning's arrival is about the 10th we're aware of.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (MoZTd)

444 435 Complete lunacy that Fetterman could have been elected. Crime enablers are very happy this morning in PA, MI, and NY.
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Fetterman is the glove you must smell. Our betters are quite kinky.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (xSnmX)

445 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:41 AM (4QgJj)

Exactly. He was a great president, but now he has become an albatross. His ego prevents him from seeing that.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (HabA/)

446 It's absolutely fraud. 10,000 votes is nothing to them. Hell, they created millions in 2020, with hundreds of thousands of them in PA alone.

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You could be right, IrishEi. I was just looking at the percentages there. Still, there are a lot of people that wanted him, which frightens my soul to its core.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (sVtYq)

447 With DeSantis called in to save the national GOP, not so sure.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

So.

Desantis for Prez, Trump for Governor.

Posted by: Miklos, zee probleme she ees sol-ved at November 09, 2022 08:45 AM (SP4pi)

448 I have a serious, not at all snarky question, on the "the GOP needs to pick better candidates" angle. What traits would this candidate have and does he exist? Would any of the other GOP possibilities have done better against Festerman or Warnock?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 08:45 AM (9yUzE)

449 Hah!
The DOJ is already investigating Desantis

Posted by: Floridachick at November 09, 2022 08:45 AM (Q87sy)

450 Until more states adopt meaningful electoral reform (still worth fighting for), national elections will remain as they have become: co-opted into the array of panem et circenses used to distract and entertain while the real business is done elsewhere.

Posted by: Rowsdower Believes Epps Is A Fed at November 09, 2022 08:45 AM (klwnl)

451 I should have added in the backdrop of Trump declaring next week, which he will. DeSantis can't start an active campaign, he has to wait for Trump to somehow fail.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (5p7BC)

Trump will lose if he declares next week. The timing for him would be terrible. His only shot now is as savior when everything goes to sh&t...and no one is feeling that apparently in numbers that he would need to win yet...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:46 AM (exHjb)

452 My door is always open for any of you all. Stop in and say hi sometime, no kidding. I'll put the coffee pot on, bake some bread and tell Dad jokes. We'll laugh 'till we cry and then start over.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 08:13 AM (LsEU/)

I'd love to take you up on that offer. Someday, perhaps. My sadness has nothing to do with elections.

GODDAMMIT, THIS AUTOFILL IS PISSING ME THE FUCK OFF!!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 09, 2022 08:46 AM (AW0uW)

453 I'm not surprised, saddened, but not surprised. I've sat on juries. There are a lot of stupid people out there.

Posted by: BignJames at November 09, 2022 08:46 AM (AwYPR)

454 We do a poor job of getting out the vote. We need a thousand Scott Presslers, and somehow the money never goes for that. At this point, we are headed for bad times and they are removing the peaceful ways to change that.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Nst, you are spot on. For some reason, the R's never seem to play a really comprehensive attack game, maybe it is too much like work?
And having the media stacked against you doesn't help, but if an R candidate was making daily pointed reasoned speeches some of that would have to leak through to the few sentient beings left that still vote!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:46 AM (hOUT3)

455 At least the MAGA retiree on SS actually PAID something in, unlike Pantyfa, WIC & EBT recipients.
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Yeah, I don't disagree.

It's telling that NO ONE says anything about "hey guys, we're going to need to figure out this social security problem, and it might involve a 3% cut."

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:46 AM (bm04m)

456 In fairness, everybody needs to relax with the hot taks, watch how things unfoldd and be thoughtful

Posted by: Y5 at November 09, 2022 08:46 AM (hABRf)

457 I strongly disagree that 2016 was a "free and fair" election. It's just that Trump overcame their shenanigans.

I have my doubts about "free and fair" elections going back to at least 2000...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 08:33 AM

Point taken. 2016 was the Democrat cheat machine dropping the ball, because they completely underestimated Trump's appeal and Hillary's lack of it among Democrat voters (a good portion of whom voted 3rd party and flipped 3 deep blue states to barely red, WI, PA and MI). Hillary had less votes in those states than Obama's 2012 total. Trump was basically around the same totals as Romney from 2012, maybe slight increase. But had Hillary simply held Obama's 2012 totals, she would be President.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 08:46 AM (Do5/p)

458 399 I don't know the DeSantis heir that will continue what has been started there. With a strong Trump, it could be done. With DeSantis called in to save the national GOP, not so sure.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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I can't think of a more Loser Republican attitude than "we shouldn't run the best guy for president because then who will run Florida."

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:46 AM (4QgJj)

459 Hochul the Beaver Face is probably already planning on when to announce "vax" mandates on NY's kiddies. I'll eat my shoe if I'm wrong.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:47 AM (sVtYq)

460 It could be either or both, but I kind of suspect door #2 is bigger than I thought it was.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Possibly true. But, things have not gotten bad enough yet. However, it may be that identity politics that the Dems use is impervious to change of voting habits until a system collapse.

A brief perusal of House races indicate what you say is what happened---red states are now down to one or two House members, purple states have a few more Dems in maj. minority districts, and the blue states have islands of GOP but difficult to move beyond the islands due to district drawing.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 08:47 AM (CXr4y)

461 I'm not surprised, saddened, but not surprised. I've sat on juries. There are a lot of stupid people out there.
Posted by: BignJames at November 09, 2022 08:46 AM (AwYPR)

*NextDoor has entered the chat*

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2022 08:47 AM (4I/2K)

462
Sorry if this sounds like an insult (I'm a native of the state) but almost anyone with common sense moved out of PA a long time ago. What's left are activists, AWFLs and senescent union retirees.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2022 08:47 AM (MoZTd)

463 Personally I am Cruz or Rand Paul for 2024. Desantis will benefit from more time in the oven.

Don't make the mistake of rushing the rookie.

Posted by: Shiggz (defective slave) at November 09, 2022 08:47 AM (0SrVS)

464 So looking at PA...would Barnette have won?

Evil Shrek campaigned as "pro-woman" and "pro-black".

Sure his campaign people could have changed how they ran but...that strategy worked against Oz and was unlikely to work against Barnette

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2022 08:48 AM (ESjRY)

465 401 he's young, he'll be in the Senate for ages and ages.
Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 09, 2022 08:35 AM (w0NJk)

Uh, he's a 400 lb homunculus who has already had 1 stroke, he won't be around for long.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2022 08:37 AM (UuD2k)

"Yup!"

- - Giselle Frankenstein the wife

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 08:48 AM (x0n13)

466 We have had an outstanding crop of butterflies born here at Schloss Hadrian this fall.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

We need common sense butterfly control!!

Wait a minute. No we don't !!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 08:48 AM (LsEU/)

467 I think Trump would make a good Speaker assuming we retain the house. But what do I know. Plus his ego

Posted by: Floridachick at November 09, 2022 08:48 AM (Q87sy)

468 I'm not surprised, saddened, but not surprised. I've sat on juries. There are a lot of stupid people out there.

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At least we're in a red state...for now, BignJames. Did those 2 amendments of ours pass?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:48 AM (sVtYq)

469 Things would be better if we could annex Philly to NJ or DE.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 09, 2022 08:48 AM (TiGPW)

470 *NextDoor has entered the chat*

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(yahoo commenter struggles to figure out how to sign up for NextDoor)

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 08:48 AM (bm04m)

471 Per Dr Siegel on Fox, Fetterman will almost certainly have another event or die in the next 5 years. The stroke was from a blood clot in his heart, and Fetterman was instructed to go on heart meds 3+ years ago and never did. He is the proverbial horse sent to the Senate, a meat sack with a pulse — for now.

Posted by: lizzy at November 09, 2022 08:49 AM (I/doM)

472 A person a day could be stabbed, pushed onto the subway tracks, assaulted with a weapon of one kind or another, raped, you name it and the dumb fuvks who live in NY would still vote for Hochul...because women's rights and abortion. Let NY burn.

Posted by: Ziba at November 09, 2022 08:49 AM (4h9M3)

473 Look around you at the wreckage of the United States of America.

Next look at who remains in control.

Now tell me there's hope. I'll wait.

Posted by: creeper at November 09, 2022 08:49 AM (/41A7)

474 DeSantis doesn't have to declare anything. He won hugely yesterday and now, more than ever, has a national platform. He's been talking about and taking on every issue with national resonance, and for now he can advance a campaign by doing nothing more than what he's already doing.

I don't believe that Trump lost big yesterday or that his appeal or "luster" is gone. The midterms are a sprawling affair, not like special elections, and people aren't going to blame him for his endorsements failing. This will all be forgotten if and when he officially declares.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 09, 2022 08:50 AM (H8QX8)

475 Ranked voting going to turn Alaska's house seat blue.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 09, 2022 08:50 AM (lzd36)

476 Yeah, I don't disagree.

It's telling that NO ONE says anything about "hey guys, we're going to need to figure out this social security problem, and it might involve a 3% cut."
Posted by: Gray Man
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Social security is the easier fix--the retirement age will have to be increased--partial at 65 and full at 70. That would basically put solvency problems off until 30-40 years. But, if you do, you will also get more disability costs.

Medicare is the one in serious trouble so taxes will have to be raised and/or benefits cut.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 08:50 AM (CXr4y)

477 That said, WHY is our national politics organized to keep as many people as mad at each other for as long as possible?
Posted by: Piercello at November 09, 2022 08:40 AM (ajoh7)
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If you're not mad at your neighbor, you might be mad at them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:50 AM (DU+/6)

478 419 313 Youngkin 2024. He did not belittle feds or scare feds, so he split them enough to win. In a "we're all in this together, to bring common sense back to VA, way"...
Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (exHjb)

he didn't help the down ballot much last night

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 08:50 AM (us2H3)

479 MP4, which browser are you using?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:50 AM (DU+/6)

480 But at least if we had run Barnette against Shrek, I could have accepted our loss with dignity. Instead I forever have the taint of stooping to another forced choice stooge.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at November 09, 2022 08:50 AM (TiGPW)

481 Now tell me there's hope. I'll wait.
Posted by: cre

In fairness, that is how we got here

Posted by: Y5 at November 09, 2022 08:50 AM (hABRf)

482 Listen I have voted for Trump twice. I am ready to move on. Even if he won nom, I am hesitant to vote for him again. Listen if you Trump supporters want to persuade me you have to address my two biggest concerns.

Trump who gets out of check and he says stupid stuff
Trump and his followers fell into every trap the left set.

I don't want another four years of Mr Magoo.

Posted by: Shiggz (defective slave) at November 09, 2022 08:50 AM (0SrVS)

483
As of 8:41 AM 93.33% counted

Fetterman (D) 2,601,135 50.3%
Oz (R) 2,445,169 47.3%

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 08:50 AM (y3pKJ)

484 sure ok actual Fetterman might die. but either the mayoress of Scranton or his wife will take the seat. either way it's a D acquisition (thanks Toomey you ASSHOLE) and we will have two Leftist Senators. here in PA for ... a really long time. Until the collapse probably.

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 09, 2022 08:51 AM (w0NJk)

485 Per Dr Siegel on Fox, Fetterman will almost certainly have another event or die in the next 5 years. The stroke was from a blood clot in his heart, and Fetterman was instructed to go on heart meds 3+ years ago and never did. He is the proverbial horse sent to the Senate, a meat sack with a pulse — for now.
Posted by: lizzy at November 09, 2022 08:49 AM (I/doM)

"More butter for your biscuits, darling? And I crisped the fat on your ribeye just the way you like it. Enjoy, sweetheart!"

Posted by: Mrs. Fetterman at November 09, 2022 08:51 AM (4I/2K)

486 Unserious population + vote fraud= 2022 election shitpit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, hoarder and wrecker at November 09, 2022 08:51 AM (g03CO)

487 In 2024, tell me the R who can win VA and GA, and that's who we go with. You have to appeal to Hollywood East and non-crazy Fed land, and split those 2 sets enough to let the red districts carry the states. Neither should have a ton of vote fraud, so we'd just need to win...

Trump can't do it, Cruz can't do it...Paul probably can't do it (but I'd love him)...I think Youngkin can...I'm not certain on DeSantis for VA (but I think he'd roll in GA)...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:51 AM (exHjb)

488 Who=ego

Posted by: Shiggz (defective slave) at November 09, 2022 08:52 AM (0SrVS)

489 This result is going to rip apart the party.

There's now three factions.

The loathesome NTers.
The Always Trumpers.
I supported Trump and voted for him but his time has come and gone.

Some of you may be wanting to lump #1 and #3 together however I think there's a clear difference between the two. #1 was paid to betray their convictions even when Trump was accomplishing everything they had wished for years.
#3 simply sees him as not being a positive influence on candidate selection and endorsements. And certainly won't win in 2024 even against Biden.

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 09, 2022 08:52 AM (PZRIG)

490 I don't know enough about youngkin but I am open.

Posted by: Shiggz (defective slave) at November 09, 2022 08:52 AM (0SrVS)

491 person a day could be stabbed, pushed onto the subway tracks, assaulted with a weapon of one kind or another, raped, you name it and the dumb fuvks who live in NY would still vote for Hochul...because women's rights and abortion. Let NY burn.
Posted by: Z

In fairness, fair enough, but you just described every city and most have more crime than ny

Posted by: Y5 at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (hABRf)

492 I can't think of a more Loser Republican attitude than "we shouldn't run the best guy for president because then who will run Florida."
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:46 AM (4QgJj)

I get what you're saying, but as far as I can tell, FL has no bench. As we also know, POTUS is a poisoned chalice if you don't have a devoted cadre of people who will execute your will and fight the Deep State. Last I checked, while DeSantis is doing a great job, he hasn't had the time to canvass the country to look for that crew. If he becomes POTUS without that infrastructure, you'll simply get DeSantis without an administration - just like Trump had.

If you want to know what it's like not to have decent people left behind to run things, look at CA. We went from Reagan to Newsom in no-time flat. Or NY, where Pataki had multiple terms to change things, proceeded not to, and now we have Hochul.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (s1Y5g)

493 Medicare is the one in serious trouble so taxes will have to be raised and/or benefits cut.
Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 08:50 AM (CXr4y)

They just added benefits, so good luck with that...

Instead, we'll probably get Dem death panels or the German "only palliative care after 80" plan...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (exHjb)

494
Would anyone else have done better in PA? Fetterman's clone could have run as a Republican against Fetterman and still lost, likely by a larger margin.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (MoZTd)

495 At least the MAGA retiree on SS actually PAID something in, unlike Pantyfa, WIC & EBT recipients.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2022 08:42 AM (RvuYE)

Thanks for posting that.
I would add that the MAGA retirees receiving SS actually paid something into the system UNDER PENALTY OF LAW, totes unlike the grifter class most of whom paid nothing in EVER!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (hOUT3)

496 Possibly true. But, things have not gotten bad enough yet. However, it may be that identity politics that the Dems use is impervious to change of voting habits until a system collapse. ...
Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 08:47 AM (CXr4y)
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I suspect that it will take extreme privation to meaningfully shift the playing field. The loss of the reserve currency, major war effort that drags on, something like that. Even setting the cheat aside.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (DU+/6)

497 Cheating and fortifying does little to dispel the fact that no matter what, there is a large and seemingly growing faction of our fellow Americans that are either supportive of or willing to suffer through runaway inflation, lockdowns and vax mandates, high taxes, open borders, smut in our schools, abortion up till birth, grooming, and a host of other liberal treats that will ensure an accelerated end to our once wonderful country.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (KbCG3)

498 437 I should have added in the backdrop of Trump declaring next week, which he will. DeSantis can't start an active campaign, he has to wait for Trump to somehow fail.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (5p7BC)

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Trump won't have to fail. He'll likely be hauled off in handcuffs by the Feds - probably in the middle of a speech or rally. What do they have to lose? It would be red meat for the left and signal to the country that the end of MAGA is nigh so everyone else better fall in line.

Also - sincere thanks Dave in FL for your tireless election work and to J.J. for the stellar morning reports. Not sure how you gentlemen keep your sanity wading through this stuff, but it's much appreciated.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (V66kM)

499 448 I have a serious, not at all snarky question, on the "the GOP needs to pick better candidates" angle. What traits would this candidate have and does he exist? Would any of the other GOP possibilities have done better against Festerman or Warnock?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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Here are your minimum traits:

(1) No carpetbaggers. Especially no carpetbaggers from New Jersey.

(2) No celebrities dropping into the race out of nowhere. If you're going to run a celebrity in a top-level race, he's got to start smaller, and prove that he can campaign, persuade, and win.

There are more, but those two are the absolute minimum.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (4QgJj)

500 I appreciated your work, Dave. You did a yeoman's job once again and I hope your analysis in AZ and NV holds up and we place GOPers in those four offices.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (xxG/v)

501 Houston voted for more of the same.

As a moral victory, the Dems didn't get their usual 100k+ wins across the board. Only 15k to 25k.

So, yay?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (5EnGD)

502 454 We do a poor job of getting out the vote. We need a thousand Scott Presslers, and somehow the money never goes for that. At this point, we are headed for bad times and they are removing the peaceful ways to change that.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Nst, you are spot on. For some reason, the R's never seem to play a really comprehensive attack game, maybe it is too much like work?
And having the media stacked against you doesn't help, but if an R candidate was making daily pointed reasoned speeches some of that would have to leak through to the few sentient beings left that still vote! Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar
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GOTV receives low priority from GOP campaign types because they get much higher commissions by running ads and printing flyers plus don't have to deal with smelly people. They also use robocalls which probably lose more votes than it gains.

That being said, I don't think in an identity politics world that speeches will matter if there is no commonality between citizens.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 08:54 AM (CXr4y)

503 I think this should disabuse you of any notion that our elections are free and fair. In too many of these states, people can vote for days (early voting), register the same day, mail in their "ballot" and other shenanigans that ensure the usual suspects win every time. It's rigged.

And even if the usual BS wasn't happening, demographics and the movement of people from the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic to places like Georgia and North Carolina and from California to Arizona and Nevada are putting these states under the control of alien rulers who care not a tinker's cuss about the majority of the population who finds their depravity and issue positions abhorrent.

But here's something to consider: Any system that would give you the choice in Georgia (brain-damaged football player vs. whitey-hating Communist "preacher") or Pennsylvania (Sling Blade stroke victim Frankenstein's monster vs. carny trash Turk TV doctor) is not workable. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on supper and 50-plus one is not a rational basis for a system of governance.

Things are about to get a LOT worse before they get better.

Posted by: dr_mantis_toboggan_md at November 09, 2022 08:54 AM (elA6d)

504 Tim Scott will be the nominee

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 08:54 AM (us2H3)

505 478 419 313 Youngkin 2024. He did not belittle feds or scare feds, so he split them enough to win. In a "we're all in this together, to bring common sense back to VA, way"...
Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:24 AM (exHjb)

he didn't help the down ballot much last night
Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 08:50 AM (us2H3)

A - he wasn't on the ballot
B - every VA district went more red
C - we flipped an incumbent - how many other states outside FL have?

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 08:54 AM (exHjb)

506 well put Defenestratus

I'm in group 3 now and I'm so sorry. like a previous poster said - he doesn't change. he doesn't change his mind. this isn't just age - he's always been like this. it's a double edged sword but recently it definitely has led him into some really stupid traps.

eh.... politics, especially machine politics which we now have nationally... is a snake pit

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 09, 2022 08:54 AM (w0NJk)

507 Thank you to all my generous supporters for allowing me to serve them as their next senator from the great state of Pennsylvania! Soon you will have enough illegal aliens, fentanyl and EBT cards to live a life of luxury! Work will now be a thing of the past.

I would also like to thank John for carrying me around lo these past 18 months. I could not have succeeded without him!

Posted by: Mr. Neck Lump, US Senator at November 09, 2022 08:54 AM (QIOpg)

508 At least we're in a red state...for now, BignJames. Did those 2 amendments of ours pass?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2022 08:48 AM (sVtYq)

Appears they did, I voted for 'em.

Posted by: BignJames at November 09, 2022 08:54 AM (AwYPR)

509 The individuals leading the church are failing us, have been for decades and here we are.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 09, 2022 08:32 AM (qH6FZ)

There is definitely some of that, for sure. It's difficult to pin down in one area though.

I mean I hate to admit it, but much of my generation (X) were so cynical that we threw off our parents religion when we got of age and saw it as an unnecessary part of life. The preacher can be inside spitting fire and brimstone straight from the Bible (or love and forgiveness, if you prefer), but if the ears will not listen and the eyes will not see, we will be deaf and blind.

And then the odds of the generation following the teachings of Scripture are even more remote, as their parents rejected it and of course society, writ large, rejects and mocks it. The church is not a building or an organization, it's the people.

I remember suggesting once here that we might have a weekly thread here akin to the food thread or pet thread that was centered on Judeo-Christian topics, and it was resoundingly mocked and rejected even in this refuge of good people. If it's a point of contention here, imagine how much disdain elsewhere.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2022 08:54 AM (xLqhd)

510 WI, MI and PA will be near impossible in 2024 as the dems cement their Sec of State election cheat operations no matter if itsTrump, Desantis or Christ himself.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 09, 2022 08:55 AM (ggZgv)

511 last nights results will definitely stop the illegals

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 08:55 AM (us2H3)

512 Fetterneck Fetterneck, stumble and drool
Blaster run Bartertown, who is the fool?

Posted by: Colbert's Dancing USB Drives of Voting Data at November 09, 2022 08:55 AM (6NaEE)

513 Youngkin is not a Maga conservative, he is a Rino with one good thought.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 09, 2022 08:55 AM (DBrN4)

514 (2) No celebrities dropping into the race out of nowhere. If you're going to run a celebrity in a top-level race, he's got to start smaller, and prove that he can campaign, persuade, and win.

Would you count Vance as a "celebrity candidate"?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2022 08:55 AM (ESjRY)

515 Per Dr Siegel on Fox, Fetterman will almost certainly have another event or die in the next 5 years. The stroke was from a blood clot in his heart, and Fetterman was instructed to go on heart meds 3+ years ago and never did. He is the proverbial horse sent to the Senate, a meat sack with a pulse — for now.
Posted by: lizzy at November 09, 2022 08:49 AM (I/doM)

"More butter for your biscuits, darling? And I crisped the fat on your ribeye just the way you like it. Enjoy, sweetheart!"
Posted by: Mrs. Fetterman

Just give him another mRNA booster shot.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2022 08:55 AM (RvuYE)

516 I find it amusing that Trump's endorsement of losing candidates will be trumpeted loudly, but nary a word will be said or printed about the Dogeater's endorsement of Beto.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2022 08:55 AM (a3Q+t)

517 Well I guess we found out how full of shit we were.

Posted by: pawn at November 09, 2022 08:56 AM (wsHtO)

518 471. Lizzy Fetterman has an implanted pacemaker to counteract his AFib now and he certainly is now on blood thinners and other meds. He will live with this for decades.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 09, 2022 08:56 AM (0YcX1)

519 Everything was pointing to a Fetterman loss. Everyone expected it.

And then 2 days before the election he blasted Rs, saying they wouldn't accept the election results.

Draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at November 09, 2022 08:56 AM (VA0jS)

520 Tim Scott will be the nominee? That's the black dude senator? Didn't he step on his dick not too long ago and agree with liberals on some stupid issue that I can't even put my finger on right now?

Posted by: Jaimo at November 09, 2022 08:56 AM (DBrN4)

521 "Would any of the other GOP possibilities have done better against Festerman or Warnock?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo "

Maybe the GOP needs to put up a werewolf.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2022 08:56 AM (sn5EN)

522
I remember suggesting once here that we might have a weekly thread here akin to the food thread or pet thread that was centered on Judeo-Christian topics

I'm generally up for discussions on theology but that can easily end up in major flame wars.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (ESjRY)

523 Ranked voting going to turn Alaska's house seat blue.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson

Almost like the libs have been plotting and scheming for years to accomplish this...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (hOUT3)

524 Cheating and fortifying does little to dispel the fact that no matter what, there is a large and seemingly growing faction of our fellow Americans that are either supportive of or willing to suffer through runaway inflation, lockdowns and vax mandates, high taxes, open borders, smut in our schools, abortion up till birth, grooming, and a host of other liberal treats that will ensure an accelerated end to our once wonderful country.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (KbCG3)
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The probably aren't voting for those things, they are just unwilling to vote against them. Partisanship is more deeply meaningful. "I don't like the high taxes and bums and inflation and crime, but voting for the other guy would be icky" is probably a bigger factor than I thought.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (DU+/6)

525 I don't believe that Trump lost big yesterday or that his appeal or "luster" is gone. The midterms are a sprawling affair, not like special elections, and people aren't going to blame him for his endorsements failing. This will all be forgotten if and when he officially declares.
=====

I want Trump in 2024 for his foreign policy wins and expertise. DeSantis is not matured enough yet and I don't want to burn an excellent prospect.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (MIKMs)

526 Beto! Beto! He's our man!
If he can't do it
His wife Amy can!

Seriously, I just saw a headline that floats the idea of his wife picking up the flag and charging ahead.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (4I/2K)

527 I remember suggesting once here that we might have a weekly thread here akin to the food thread or pet thread that was centered on Judeo-Christian topics

No

Posted by: Y5 at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (hABRf)

528 Re: 448. Candidates should look like DeSantis, Lake, Masters and Vance — fighters. McConnells picks are always mealy mouthed wimps, which we have enough of in DC already.

Posted by: lizzy at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (I/doM)

529 Instead, we'll probably get Dem death panels or the German "only palliative care after 80" plan...
Posted by: Nova local
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Already happening. Medical science is on the verge of some great breakthroughs in cancer and probably some other diseases through monoclonal antibodies. Medicare will probably not cover them because 'experimental' treatment.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (CXr4y)

530 These asshats gloating today, are they independently wealthy that shit brains(have to get specific as there are now 2)policies don't affect them?

Posted by: A dude in MI at November 09, 2022 08:58 AM (/6GbT)

531 518 471. Lizzy Fetterman has an implanted pacemaker to counteract his AFib now and he certainly is now on blood thinners and other meds. He will live with this for decades.

agree Jen he will be fine

unless he slips and does some coke again

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 09, 2022 08:58 AM (w0NJk)

532
Voting in my town was in a gymnasium sized room. I didn't see a single person wearing a mask. Probably a hundred people in the room.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 08:58 AM (y3pKJ)

533 I remember suggesting once here that we might have a weekly thread here akin to the food thread or pet thread that was centered on Judeo-Christian topics

I'm generally up for discussions on theology but that can easily end up in major flame wars.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (ESjRY)

Agree. I'd prefer a Car Thread.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2022 08:58 AM (s1Y5g)

534 Oh but Medicare will cover the experimental Covid vax 50 or 60 times in a year.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 09, 2022 08:58 AM (DBrN4)

535 Back of the envelope, Masters needs 60% of the outstanding vote to win.

Lake has it much easier, less than 52%.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:59 AM (5p7BC)

536 It's not panic time, yet.

As far as I am concerned, we have two years to get it right. The state of Florida has shown us how it's done, and states like Oklahoma and Texas remind us that there are locales that can have populations of differing world views and still hold elections that are secure and reflective of the people who legally participate.

Don't expect the Ruling Class to take anything for granted. They will do what is needed to maintain power. We have to be dynamic, and not static to what comes next.

Posted by: itzWicks at November 09, 2022 08:59 AM (sVfvf)

537 Almost like the libs have been plotting and scheming for years to accomplish this...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar
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It was explicitly Murkowski and the aging pioneer class of AK politics that did this in order to protect graft. Oil corrupted that state essentially.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 08:59 AM (CXr4y)

538 To be honest, I fully expected to see "This is Trump's Fault."
Posted by: IrishEi at November 09, 2022 08:34 AM (3ImbR)
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I'm guessing that's on the noon lunch menu

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 08:59 AM (8CMl+)

539 520 Tim Scott will be the nominee?

They may try, but not a chance.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 09, 2022 08:59 AM (H8QX8)

540 that we survived the pandemic due to their difficult but necessary decisions on masks etc.(still reinforced daily in medical facilities here)

I said over a year ago that Whitmer would win in a landslide, partially because she would claim to have saved the state from Trump and the Science! Deniers. I was told "you're insane, voters will remember the bitch locked them down!"

Who's insane now?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 09, 2022 08:59 AM (AW0uW)

541 "I don't like the high taxes and bums and inflation and crime, but voting for the other guy would be icky" is probably a bigger factor than I thought.

This describes many of the lefty LIVs I know.

They vote for D candidates and mostly hate what the candidates do (outside of give them money) but will NOT vote R no matter what.

I thought Biden-flation would be the final straw but...maybe not.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2022 08:59 AM (ESjRY)

542 I remember suggesting once here that we might have a weekly thread here akin to the food thread or pet thread that was centered on Judeo-Christian topics

- - - -

I would like that.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 09, 2022 08:59 AM (cNLy6)

543 "The Fetterman thing is a curiosity. Sort of a big FU to the normals. He is a guaranteed, reliable vote for the Democrats.

But any Dem would have been. Weird.

Posted by: Martini Farmer"

I'm thinking the Dems could put up Hannibal Lecter and he would win in most blue states.

He's so intelligent!

Posted by: Ripley at November 09, 2022 08:59 AM (MxEKc)

544 btw another problem in PA is we have a shit ton of colleges here

and we've been keeping the graduates around more than we used to

and they get jobs in Pharma and Healthcare and education

our numbers here were heavily 20-30 year olds going Dem. they are voting for their jobs.

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 09, 2022 08:59 AM (w0NJk)

545 I remember suggesting once here that we might have a weekly thread here akin to the food thread or pet thread that was centered on Judeo-Christian topics, and it was resoundingly mocked and rejected even in this refuge of good people. If it's a point of contention here, imagine how much disdain elsewhere.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2022 08:54 AM (xLqhd)

I would like that.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 08:59 AM (45fpk)

546 Thanks for posting that.
I would add that the MAGA retirees receiving SS actually paid something into the system UNDER PENALTY OF LAW, totes unlike the grifter class most of whom paid nothing in EVER!

--

The point about the ponzi scheme remains, though.

Give me your stuff, and don't touch mine.

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 09:00 AM (bm04m)

547 520 Tim Scott will be the nominee? That's the black dude senator? Didn't he step on his dick not too long ago and agree with liberals on some stupid issue that I can't even put my finger on right now?
Posted by: Jaimo at November 09, 2022 08:56 AM (DBrN4)

saying he is black guy who stepped on his dick is a tautology

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 09:00 AM (us2H3)

548 Do all you people dumping on Trump’s ego ever stop to think that it’s precisely his ego that kept him from being mentally and emotionally destroyed by the Left was his ego? How many of us would still be out there campaigning if we had been through what Trump has?

I’m not saying that he hasn’t had errors of judgment, but I don’t blame that on his ego. His ego is what keeps him afloat.

And, though he has a big ego, he doesn’t have the narcissism that rules the thoughts and actions of most leftists. That’s been far more destructive to this country than Trump’s ego.

So please give it a rest, already.

So give it a rest already.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 09, 2022 09:00 AM (DceKn)

549
I remember suggesting once here that we might have a weekly thread here akin to the food thread or pet thread that was centered on Judeo-Christian topics

__________

Just so long as I don't have to listen to a bunch of anathemized heretics and perdition-bound schismatics

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2022 09:00 AM (MoZTd)

550 person a day could be stabbed, pushed onto the subway tracks, assaulted with a weapon of one kind or another, raped, you name it and the dumb fuvks who live in NY would still vote for Hochul...because women's rights and abortion. Let NY burn.
Posted by: Z

In fairness, fair enough, but you just described every city and most have more crime than ny
Posted by: Y5

Except, in a lot of cities, you can carry a concealed firearm to protect yourself with.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2022 09:00 AM (RvuYE)

551
I would like that.
Posted by: W

In fairness, that is what church is for

Posted by: Y5 at November 09, 2022 09:00 AM (hABRf)

552 So, Fetterman goes to the Senate saying he's for fracking when really he's against it. Well, he'll fit right in Congress. Bunch of damn grifters.

More coffee...

Posted by: dantesed at November 09, 2022 09:00 AM (88xKn)

553 How could there be such a huge discrepancy between Kemp and Walker. Are we really to believe that many people split their ballot?

Posted by: IrishEi at November 09, 2022 09:00 AM (3ImbR)

554 I want Trump in 2024 for his foreign policy wins and expertise. DeSantis is not matured enough yet and I don't want to burn an excellent prospect.
Posted by: mustbequantum at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (MIKMs)
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I don't want to waste a meaningful candidate on the presidency. I've said that before and taken heat for it, but I think that the presidency is a false prize. Trump - even taking into account his personnel - demonstrated that. If you're not on Team Uniparty, the Congress and the deep state will interfere with you, investigate you, impeach you, disobey your orders and commit any variety of crime to thwart you.

Why waste a decent person on that office? Even if he gets in, he won't be successful.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 09:00 AM (DU+/6)

555 492 They went from Reagan to Pete Wilson and others. Repubs represented the state as long as the state wanted them. They even flirted with the Rino Arnie. But the state chose to become hard left. I recall in the 70s legit conservatives fleeing to Idaho. Even back then CA was statist, anti 2A, and had the worst public schools. This was known in the military as many were stationed there. The standing order was get out.

Posted by: Quint at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM (qsnKg)

556 ---------------------
Already happening. Medical science is on the verge of some great breakthroughs in cancer and probably some other diseases through monoclonal antibodies. Medicare will probably not cover them because 'experimental' treatment.
Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (CXr4y)

To be fair, when I start treatment, those monoclonals are currently the only working treatments for my type of cancer...and just one med per month (of which I'd take several) is $13K...so you'd be adding $156K for a cancer patient like me for my 1st pill - and only charging me $2K...the Math doesn't work for monoclonals right now.

It's why I told my spouse he's never retiring...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM (exHjb)

557 Of course all of this presupposes that the American governmental and political systems at the national and local levels rights itself, comes to its senses and passes these laws.
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There is no mechanism for that to happen.

The foreigners in DC, many state capitols, corporate boardrooms, academia, and the media have simply declared themselves to be government, with no legitimate claim to the position. They will not change their ways.

And their ways are among other things to defy God's command to "Go fill the Earth" by engaging in massive depopulation, through starvation, economic collapse, fake medicine, and war where they can manage it.

Posted by: Methos at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM (kOpft)

558 Posted by: Jaimo at November 09, 2022 08:56 AM (DBrN4)

No...the other Tim Scott....Fla.

Posted by: BignJames at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM (AwYPR)

559 ‘Anyone who violates the integrity of the franchise should face the death penalty.’
In the public square…

Posted by: Theo at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM (LkCx0)

560 The probably aren't voting for those things, they are just unwilling to vote against them. Partisanship is more deeply meaningful. "I don't like the high taxes and bums and inflation and crime, but voting for the other guy would be icky" is probably a bigger factor than I thought.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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That in a way is the genius of identity politics because if you can get a person to substitute their identity for thought, the personal becomes the political. The downside is eventually it will lead to governing collapse possibly civil war but that is another story.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM (CXr4y)

561 This may mean the "For The People Act" might pass, where to government will run elections. And that means the GOP will never win another election.

I apologize for my POS state, and sincerely hope all the PA wine moms enjoy all the new violence co,ing their way when the Lump releases a third of our criminals.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM (d2bW3)

562 334 Unless something changes, the forces allied against Trump in R party will not let him win, no matter what sacrifices they have to make. It's an existential threat to their power if populists take over the party. I'd love to vote for Trump in 2024 to shove it in their wrinkled corrupted faces, but I'm thinking that's a losing proposition.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 09, 2022 08:27 AM

What a coincidence! Unless something changes, I'm not interested in supporting a GOPe that actively hampers my political priorities, and required me to support Trump. Last night made me think the populace as a whole has soured on Trump, and important states for 2024 will not be on the up-and-up, so Trump is doomed if he runs.

I'll be damned if I'll vote for Rubio, Romney, or any other RINO, though. McCain, Romney and the whole cast of 2016 lovers taught me a lot.

Posted by: Grimmy at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM (JCZqz)

563 MP4, which browser are you using?

When I open Ace on Firefox, I get slammed with pop-ups for McAfee and "Trump-endorsed" vitamin products. Only browser this happens on. I'm on Brave now.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM (9yUzE)

564 I remember suggesting once here that we might have a weekly thread here akin to the food thread or pet thread that was centered on Judeo-Christian topics

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I would like that.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf?

Me too! A more on the body of Great Works regarding Western Civ.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM (LsEU/)

565 499 448 I have a serious, not at all snarky question, on the "the GOP needs to pick better candidates" angle. What traits would this candidate have and does he exist? Would any of the other GOP possibilities have done better against Festerman or Warnock?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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Here are your minimum traits:

(1) No carpetbaggers. Especially no carpetbaggers from New Jersey.

(2) No celebrities dropping into the race out of nowhere. If you're going to run a celebrity in a top-level race, he's got to start smaller, and prove that he can campaign, persuade, and win.

There are more, but those two are the absolute minimum.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM (4QgJj)

________________

Not saying you're wrong. You're not. And I found it annoying Oz would only surrender his Turkish citizenship if he won office. However Oz should have won nonetheless. I don't believe the grifter and potato that is Fetterman is a better, more accomplished man than he.

Posted by: James Smith at November 09, 2022 09:02 AM (hvfJj)

566 Personally I am Cruz or Rand Paul for 2024.

Cruz called January 6 an 'insurrection.'

He and Paul both voted to award medals of bravery to Ashli Babbitt's killers.

They can both FOAD.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 09, 2022 09:02 AM (AW0uW)

567 Big balls, big ego. We need someone who can take it without breaking, and then get on with the smiting.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2022 09:02 AM (sn5EN)

568 These asshats gloating today, are they independently wealthy that shit brains(have to get specific as there are now 2)policies don't affect them?
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 09, 2022 08:58 AM (/6GbT)

Ummmmmm....Yes.

The wealthy like things the way they are and it will continue until it doesn't.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 09, 2022 09:02 AM (QIOpg)

569 Except, in a lot of cities, you can carry a concealed firearm to protect yourself with.
Posted by: r

In fairness, yes, but the crime is the same

Posted by: Y5 at November 09, 2022 09:02 AM (hABRf)

570 The probably aren't voting for those things, they are just unwilling to vote against them

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Well said. And likely don't see them with the same lens.

"It's art, not porn. Why don't you want children exposed to those books? Do you hate literature?"

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 09:02 AM (bm04m)

571 In fairness, that is what church is for

Posted by: Y5 at November 09, 2022 09:00 AM (hABRf)

I don't think you can confine talk of morals and ethics to the inside of the church, particularly when they so very much impact politics and culture.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 09, 2022 09:02 AM (45fpk)

572 Things are about to get a LOT worse before they get better.
Posted by: dr_mantis_toboggan_md at November 09, 2022 08:54 AM (elA6d)

...

Things are about to get a lot worse. Period. FIFY

Posted by: Ziba at November 09, 2022 09:02 AM (4h9M3)

573 492 POTUS is a poisoned chalice if you don't have a devoted cadre of people who will execute your will and fight the Deep State. Last I checked, while DeSantis is doing a great job, he hasn't had the time to canvass the country to look for that crew. If he becomes POTUS without that infrastructure, you'll simply get DeSantis without an administration - just like Trump had.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM
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I don't know why DeSantis would be at more of a disadvantage in terms of putting a Washington-savvy team together than GWB was. And if DeSantis was disadvantaged, he'd at least be aware of it.

Trump huge early error was not knowing what he didn't know. He pulled a campaign out of his ass, and somehow it worked. But that's not the way Washington works. Trump got rolled by Congress and the Deep State at every turn because governing isn't primarily about showmanship and tweeting.

What Trump should have done is to have gone to the GOP Establishment and say: "You don't like me and I don't like you. But I'm the guy with the pen. I'll give you what you want, but you need to give me the Wall and these other priorities, including the right people."

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 09:02 AM (4QgJj)

574 "...on course to become the Haiti of Yugoslavias."

Wow, that good, eh.
Our county offices went bright red, but pelosi-creature Frank Mrvan squeeked past Jennifer-Ruth Green, 52.8 to 47.2. It saddens me.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (Rbu5d)

575 Ugh, Fetterman for decades?
Get used to the Lump wearing a hoodie in the Senate chambers I guess …

Posted by: lizzy at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (I/doM)

576 To be fair, when I start treatment, those monoclonals are currently the only working treatments for my type of cancer...and just one med per month (of which I'd take several) is $13K...so you'd be adding $156K for a cancer patient like me for my 1st pill - and only charging me $2K...the Math doesn't work for monoclonals right now.

It's why I told my spouse he's never retiring...
Posted by: Nova local
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That is also a way to get more work from the productive while not letting them get to retire.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (CXr4y)

577 As some have pointed out; had the "red wave" materialized every bad thing that has happened and will happen between 2020 and 2024 and beyond would become the Republican's fault and/or problem. There is a non-zero chance the GOPe realized this. What they may have done with that info is debatable, but I'm pretty sure the leadership was not prepared to deal with the economic disaster currently underway.

The Republican party today isn't proactive. It's barely reactive. It "just is." Like a blob.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (Q4IgG)

578 And, though he has a big ego, he doesn’t have the narcissism that rules the thoughts and actions of most leftists.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 09, 2022 09:00 AM (DceKn)

Dead on right.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (H8QX8)

579 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 09, 2022 09:02 AM (AW0uW)

yep

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (us2H3)

580 MP4, which browser are you using?

Regular MS Edge.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (AW0uW)

581 Kari Lake made a mistake. While votes were still being counted, she says again she will go after the steal, and jail people. And this causes the villains running the cheat machine to crank it up. You save comments like that until the last vote is counted.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (lz5hY)

582 I remember suggesting once here that we might have a weekly thread here akin to the food thread or pet thread that was centered on Judeo-Christian topics, and it was resoundingly mocked and rejected even in this refuge of good people. If it's a point of contention here, imagine how much disdain elsewhere.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2022 08:54 AM (xLqhd)

I understand, that's why I have no faith in anything getting better in this nation for a long time, if ever.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (qH6FZ)

583 I remember suggesting once here that we might have a weekly thread here akin to the food thread or pet thread that was centered on Judeo-Christian topics

__________

Just so long as I don't have to listen to a bunch of anathemized heretics and perdition-bound schismatics
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2022 09:00 AM (MoZTd)

Or mackerel snappers, or snake handlers, or Methodists, or . . . 😉

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (4I/2K)

584 "How could there be such a huge discrepancy between Kemp and Walker. Are we really to believe that many people split their ballot?
Posted by: IrishEi "

I thought it was odd too. Mrs fd says it's because people voted for Kemp but left the Walker / Warnock boxes blank.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (sn5EN)

585 "The Fetterman thing is a curiosity. Sort of a big FU to the normals. He is a guaranteed, reliable vote for the Democrats.

But any Dem would have been. Weird.

Posted by: Martini Farmer"
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Biden: "Oh, I'm so running in 2024"

Posted by: WisRich at November 09, 2022 09:04 AM (G0vdT)

586 Personally I am Cruz or Rand Paul for 2024.

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I suspect either would be great choices, and they'd be allowed to almost win and it would be just close enough to maintain the facade.

Then they could accept their challenge coin, same as Pence.

Posted by: Gray Man - Look for rainbow books at your kids library, press charges against librarians at November 09, 2022 09:04 AM (bm04m)

587 I should have added in the backdrop of Trump declaring next week, which he will. DeSantis can't start an active campaign, he has to wait for Trump to somehow fail.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (5p7BC)
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That happened already, in 2020, and we got the Meat Puppet and the Junta. Not real interested in seeing Act 2.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 09:04 AM (KPjEa)

588 "Learn to do right; seek justice.
Defend the oppressed.
Take up the cause of the fatherless;
plead the case of the widow."

Isaiah 1:17

Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2022 09:04 AM (eacmp)

589 This is why I don't vote.

The oligarchy is not going back to letting the plebes have a say, preserve the status quo so nobody is too upset and keep marching toward tyranny.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2022 09:05 AM (8GBH4)

590 I'm generally up for discussions on theology but that can easily end up in major flame wars.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (ESjRY)

I'm not trying to rehash that suggestion, I'm simply pointing out that this people's general feeling about the topic.

Even in a place that should be, in theory, receptive, it's perceived as too contentious......in a place that focuses on politics!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2022 09:05 AM (xLqhd)

591 Things are about to get a LOT worse before they get better.
Posted by: dr_mantis_toboggan_md

Things are about to get a lot worse. Period. FIFY
Posted by: Ziba

I'm praying they do. A lot of people need to feel real pain for their choices.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2022 09:05 AM (RvuYE)

592 Untold story in PA is that of Sean Parnell who was submarined as a candidate probably by Rove in order to put McCormick in there.

A lot of these lifestyle hits are being financed by GOPe operatives and Conservative Media Tm that promotes them.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:05 AM (CXr4y)

593 In fairness, the hq is not everything for everybody

Posted by: Y5 at November 09, 2022 09:05 AM (hABRf)

594 I turned everything off at 10 last night, and just started looking. Apparently Texas and Florida are going to have to secede.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2022 09:05 AM (r46W7)

595 >>>I don't believe the grifter and potato that is Fetterman is a better, more accomplished man than he.

Posted by: James Smith

Fetterman wasn't, even before the stroke. The problem is the suburban wine moms whose only condition is abortion all day, every day. Not to mention the rampant fraud in big cities like Philly, Pitt, and Erie.

I said this last night, and it's true. With the exception of the Trump miracle in 2016, PA is a deep blue state.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:05 AM (d2bW3)

596
The probably aren't voting for those things, they are just unwilling to vote against them. Partisanship is more deeply meaningful. "I don't like the high taxes and bums and inflation and crime, but voting for the other guy would be icky" is probably a bigger factor than I thought.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (DU+/6)

Exactly.

Virtually nobody is happy with the state of affairs in this mess of a country, or either of its disgusting parties. But if you're a Democrat your choice is to cross over and vote (R), and vice-versa.

Few people are going to do those things, because both of these parties are patently evil, and its easier to convince yourself that the one you've been supporting is the lesser of them, when it's actually a single, evil unit.

An exception to this was, of course, Trump. Essentially, *all* of his votes were crossovers. There's an obvious desire for something different in this country.

I think as soon as a viable Party rises, the GOP collapses entirely, and the Dems lose a huge chunk of their own voters to it. But they will hang on to them as long as the GOP's ruined brand is the alternative.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2022 09:05 AM (oINRc)

597 Seriously?
"RSBN- TRUMP TOUTS ‘GREAT EVENING’ WITH 174 WINS AND 9 LOSSES"

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2022 09:05 AM (NpAcC)

598 566 Personally I am Cruz or Rand Paul for 2024.

They tried. Cruz came off like Nixon on steroids, and Paul wimped out in his first media confrontation. Not going to happen for either.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 09, 2022 09:06 AM (H8QX8)

599 Obviously, candidate quality has absolutely nothing to fucking do with electability.

Our tribe votes for our guys. Your tribe doesn’t vote for its guys

Posted by: Senator Festerman at November 09, 2022 09:06 AM (YTBIQ)

600 When I open Ace on Firefox, I get slammed with pop-ups for McAfee and "Trump-endorsed" vitamin products. Only browser this happens on. I'm on Brave now.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM (9yUzE)

At home, I get ad overload on Brave. At work, I get nothing on Chrome. Makes no sense.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2022 09:06 AM (UuD2k)

601 If the Democrats hold the house, then the j6 committee continues for two more years. Lots of political opponents going to prison.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at November 09, 2022 09:06 AM (VA0jS)

602 The Republican party today isn't proactive. It's barely reactive. It "just is." Like a blob.

The entire GOP campaign this year was "Democrats are bad, and we're not them." They thought it would be enough. Cocaine Mitch specifically instructed Republican candidates not to run on anything.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 09:06 AM (9yUzE)

603 Maybe God feels there are still a lot of lessons for us to learn. I can only continue to pray that God will turn his face back towards our country and and show us mercy once again.

You haven't read the book of Revelation recently, have you? You don't recognize the morning sickness that leads to the birth of the Apocalypse? Pestilence, famine, any of that sound familiar? The good news is the oh so smart, atheistic left, is exactly following the course Revelation lays out. Yes they will get their one world government. Things start going badly for them after that though.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 09, 2022 09:06 AM (CecP5)

604 We have had an outstanding crop of butterflies born here at Schloss Hadrian this fall. We've encouraged milkweed plants in the garden, which the caterpillars love. Lots of places for the chrysales to grow. This morning's arrival is about the 10th we're aware of.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2022 08:44 AM (MoZTd)
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Threadwinner.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 09:06 AM (KPjEa)

605 589 This is why I don't vote.

The oligarchy is not going back to letting the plebes have a say, preserve the status quo so nobody is too upset and keep marching toward tyranny.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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Well, at some point, you will face the choice of submit or die in a tyranny. Voting, even if ineffective at times, is a bit better than that.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:06 AM (CXr4y)

606 Just so long as I don't have to listen to a bunch of anathemized heretics and perdition-bound schismatics
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Or mackerel snappers, or snake handlers, or Methodists, or . . . 😉
Posted by: Count de Monet

Combine it with a food thread! Lime jello with fruit in it as a sacrament.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 09:07 AM (LsEU/)

607
I apologize for my POS state, and sincerely hope all the PA wine moms enjoy all the new violence coming their way when the Lump releases a third of our criminals.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM

I don't think a Senator has any great say in the matter of who gets let out of jail. But the fact that he's okay with that happening and he still got 50% of the vote is shocking.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 09:07 AM (y3pKJ)

608 565 I don't believe the grifter and potato that is Fetterman is a better, more accomplished man than he.
Posted by: James Smith
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Pennsylvania is a blue state. It's not the darkest possible blue state. It's not California, but it's royal blue. That means that, like it or not, the GOP candidate has to run a near-flawless race to win. He doesn't have to be the most conservative candidate; in fact, that may be a disadvantage. But he can't have any glaring negatives. Oz would have won in South Carolina or Iowa, but this was Pennsylvania. Wrong guy in the wrong state.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 09:07 AM (4QgJj)

609 Correct me if I am wrong, and hope I am, isn't Cali now holding the cards as to who controls the house? Aren't they still counting votes for a week or two?

Posted by: Floridachick at November 09, 2022 08:39 AM (Q87sy)

Republicans need 19 of 64 uncalled race. Possibles appear to be 2 CO, 1 CT, 4 AZ, 1 IL, 1 Md, 1 IO, 11 Ca (only went up to maryland when checking results)

So thats 21 possible wins, though they are all close and not sure what the outstanding amount is.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 09, 2022 09:07 AM (/xqqO)

610 535 Back of the envelope, Masters needs 60% of the outstanding vote to win.

Lake has it much easier, less than 52%.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 09, 2022 08:59 AM (5p7BC

If the outstanding is Election Day and/or rural he stands a good chance. Any clue what is still out?

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 09, 2022 09:07 AM (fatpD)

611 602 The Republican party today isn't proactive. It's barely reactive. It "just is." Like a blob.

The entire GOP campaign this year was "Democrats are bad, and we're not them." They thought it would be enough. Cocaine Mitch specifically instructed Republican candidates not to run on anything.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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Yes it was.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:07 AM (CXr4y)

612 600 When I open Ace on Firefox, I get slammed with pop-ups for McAfee and "Trump-endorsed" vitamin products. Only browser this happens on. I'm on Brave now.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 09:01 AM (9yUzE)

At home, I get ad overload on Brave. At work, I get nothing on Chrome. Makes no sense.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2022 09:06 AM (UuD2k)

Those ads help pay the bills. With that said, there are extensions you can get for Firefox and Chrome based browsers that will block ads. Take a look at AdBlock.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 09, 2022 09:07 AM (EUwGL)

613 "I don't like the high taxes and bums and inflation and crime, but voting for the other guy would be icky" is probably a bigger factor than I thought.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM (DU+/6)

Absolutely.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 09, 2022 09:07 AM (H8QX8)

614 Lizzy Fetterman has an implanted pacemaker to counteract his AFib now and he certainly is now on blood thinners and other meds. He will live with this for decades.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 09, 2022 08:56 AM (0YcX1)
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The regular doc on FOX said that because the clot that caused his stroke came from his heart, the life expectancy for that type of thing is 5 years max.

But I did not stay at a Holiday Inn last night, so...

Posted by: IrishEi at November 09, 2022 09:08 AM (3ImbR)

615 This is why I don't vote.

The oligarchy is not going back to letting the plebes have a say, preserve the status quo so nobody is too upset and keep marching toward tyranny.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2022 09:05 AM (8GBH4)
*******
I was happy to vote in Texas. Would crawl over broken glass to do it.
Today Beto is not my governor.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2022 09:08 AM (NpAcC)

616 584 "How could there be such a huge discrepancy between Kemp and Walker. Are we really to believe that many people split their ballot?
Posted by: IrishEi "

I thought it was odd too. Mrs fd says it's because people voted for Kemp but left the Walker / Warnock boxes blank.
Posted by: fd at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (sn5EN)

Kemp looks like he has some sort of corrupt bargain with Abrams. I think he'll be a long-term mainstay of Georgia politics while other statewide offices will be "blue".

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 09, 2022 09:08 AM (eYoxG)

617 544 tell that to Nova. Nova is full of people from PA and NY. I would guess ten from PA and NY move to Nova for one Virginian who moves there.

Not bragging about Nova, but it is the statism. People are going to gravitate to an ever growing state.

Posted by: Quint at November 09, 2022 09:08 AM (qsnKg)

618 Beto! Beto! He's our man!
If he can't do it
His wife Amy can!

Seriously, I just saw a headline that floats the idea of his wife picking up the flag and charging ahead.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2022 08:57 AM

He still has almost $50 million left over in his campaign. Anything is possible.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 09, 2022 09:09 AM (bVYXr)

619 >>>I'm praying they do. A lot of people need to feel real pain for their choices.

Posted by: rickb223

Seconded. PA is already violent, especially in the cities, and I know for a fact Philly crime is spreading out to the suburbs. I'm all for that, and for the pain the wine moms will soon enjoy.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:09 AM (d2bW3)

620 The probably aren't voting for those things, they are just unwilling to vote against them. Partisanship is more deeply meaningful.

Most Dems and Repubs alike vote on faith rather than reason. Make a fair criticism of Trump here. Watch the reaction by many. Its a reaction based upon faith and emotion, not logic. Until thats accepted, prepare for more disappointment.

The other problem here is this continued view of prior America through this lens of Norman Rockwell. 20th Century America was an America of Big Govt - fully supported by the vast majority of D and R alike. The argument always revolved around what that Big Govt should look like - but never around how big was too big. And no - not even during Reagan. Reagans talk did not match Reagans actions.

Why is anyone surprised that 21st Century America still leans that way ? And more church or history lessons or whatever will not change that. Its in our collective DNA. Changing shit like that takes generations.

Posted by: Jaguar at November 09, 2022 09:09 AM (go3dL)

621 I admit to a sick fascination with watching the Lumpy Fensterman drama play out. My expectation: His doctor will revoke his medical A-OK, and Shapiro/Wolf will appoint Unibrow to the Senate.

If she raises her skirt three inches and shows some cleavage, I can live with her AOC imitations. That's what the "mute" button is for.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 09:09 AM (KPjEa)

622 Right now people can still believe that everything will be the same. The reality of the situation is not apparent to them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 09, 2022 09:09 AM (CwQXo)

623 The entire GOP campaign this year was "Democrats are bad, and we're not them." They thought it would be enough. Cocaine Mitch specifically instructed Republican candidates not to run on anything.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 09, 2022 09:06 AM (9yUzE)

That was a mistake - people vote for excitement, not duty - at least on the R side...

Last minute polls might have also been intended to get our side to do its normal stupidity of either staying home or considering a race a done deal and not voting for our non-perfect candidate, but throwing the vote away 3rd party...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 09:09 AM (exHjb)

624 595 The problem is the suburban wine moms whose only condition is abortion all day, every day.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022
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I'm willing to be convinced of this, but from what I've seen of the pre-election and exit polls, abortion wasn't anywhere near anyone's top issue.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 09:09 AM (4QgJj)

625 What Trump should have done is to have gone to the GOP Establishment and say: "You don't like me and I don't like you. But I'm the guy with the pen. I'll give you what you want, but you need to give me the Wall and these other priorities, including the right people."
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 09:02 AM (4QgJj)

He basically did just that. Reince Priebus was Trump's first Chief of Staff just because that was the message that needed to be delivered. He had no intention to go to war with the GOPe in the beginning. The GOPe, however, didn't get over their other 16 candidates getting smoked by Trump. They were in no mood to compromise with him.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2022 09:09 AM (s1Y5g)

626 Well morning folks look on the bright side. It could have been a lot worse. Also the 24 senate map is more in our favor. Az is back along with pa for their second senator, and the dem from wva is up along with the dem from Mt. We have to get our shit together if we are to save this country. But as the old saying goes it has to get worse before it gets better,America will rise from the ashes like a phoenix.

Posted by: Genzconservativist at November 09, 2022 09:09 AM (pmoqr)

627 486 Unserious population + vote fraud= 2022 election shitpit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, hoarder and wrecker at November 09, 2022 08:51 AM (g03CO)

Unserious population = Free Shit Army + AWFL's + Middle Class White Females Susceptible to Lib Propaganda + Beta Males + More and More Public School- and College-Indoctrinated Young People + People Who Vote Democrat Because Their Family Always Voted Democrat + Blacks Voting Against Their Economic and Educational Interests + Huge Majority of Union Members and Their Family and Close Friends + many splinter groups the Dems have bought or brainwashed.

Add some cheating and you get quite a lot of real and fraudulent votes that opponents have to exceed. Have we reached the tipping point?

Posted by: Gref at November 09, 2022 09:09 AM (AMIL/)

628 Its probably not insignificant to realize that the results of yesterday could not be more perfect for the deep state rallying cry of Trump is over.

Id vote for desantis in a heartbeat but lets realize that yesterday was a hugely successful psyop for the deep state.

The fact they are saying trump needs to retire and made the election reflect
It only strengthens my resolve that voting for trump is exactly what needs to be done.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 09, 2022 09:10 AM (ggZgv)

629 People buy prescription medications because of ads with smiling faces and soothing music. Why would you expect differences in politics? You need good marketing, consistent themes and personable candidates. Yes the spirit-of-the-times moves the window of possibilities. It creates headwinds and favorable currents --pick your metaphor.

But it won't take a milquetoast campaign with a nice but charisma-free candidate over the top against a generation of well-oiled propaganda (plus margin of cheat).

A better candidate would have won in NY. Zeldin is a good guy and "deserved" to win. But we were playing Division II against Top Ten Div I.

Posted by: Zek at November 09, 2022 09:10 AM (fsV7e)

630 What... frah-king?

Posted by: Fetterlump's giant mutant steed at November 09, 2022 09:10 AM (6NaEE)

631 Can we just give New England back to England?

Posted by: Reforger at November 09, 2022 09:10 AM (CoiML)

632 Regular MS Edge.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (AW0uW)
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Try this:
1. Navigate to the following page in Edge:
edge://settings/languages
2. Locate the 'Use Writing Assistance' section
3. Turn off 'Use text prediction'

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 09:10 AM (DU+/6)

633 This is why I don't vote.

The oligarchy is not going back to letting the plebes have a say, preserve the status quo so nobody is too upset and keep marching toward tyranny.
=

I think I'm there now, too.

It's amazing after the open election fraud we've seen in now four national cycles in a row, that people still think strategy or candidates matter at all, when there's no connection between voters and election outcomes.

Except in the reddest of states. Which aren't enough to win the Presidency.

Posted by: Methos at November 09, 2022 09:11 AM (kOpft)

634 Untold story in PA is that of Sean Parnell who was submarined as a candidate probably by Rove in order to put McCormick in there.
A lot of these lifestyle hits are being financed by GOPe operatives and Conservative Media Tm that promotes them.
Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:05 AM (CXr4y)
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This. Absolutely this.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 09, 2022 09:11 AM (3ImbR)

635
Threadwinner.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2022 09:06 AM (KPjEa)

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Thanks. Like I said, life goes on.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2022 09:11 AM (MoZTd)

636 >>>The regular doc on FOX said that because the clot that caused his stroke came from his heart, the life expectancy for that type of thing is 5 years max.

Posted by: IrishEi

Types... deletes... maybe smiling.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:11 AM (d2bW3)

637 The problem is the suburban wine moms whose only condition is abortion all day, every day.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022
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I'm willing to be convinced of this, but from what I've seen of the pre-election and exit polls, abortion wasn't anywhere near anyone's top issue.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 09:09 AM (4QgJj)
*****
Evidently, it was.
Women want to murder their babies.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2022 09:12 AM (NpAcC)

638 At least Abbott won by over 10. Beto hit the default generic Dem number at 43%. Looks like republicans are now getting 44% of the hispanic vote, better than before, but not enough to win close races.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2022 09:12 AM (r46W7)

639 I get what you're saying, but as far as I can tell, FL has no bench. [ . . . ]

If you want to know what it's like not to have decent people left behind to run things, look at CA. We went from Reagan to Newsom in no-time flat. Or NY, where Pataki had multiple terms to change things, proceeded not to, and now we have Hochul.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM

And don't forget that DeSantis barely won Florida Governor race in 2018. +13,000 votes, +0.4%. So Florida is truly a toss-up state seemingly every Presidential election and every Governor election.

Regarding how quickly things can change, another state to look at is Illinois. It had Republican Governors for decades, but just within the last 15-20 years has it gone deep blue and deeply corrupt.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 09:12 AM (Do5/p)

640 Personally I am Cruz or Rand Paul for 2024.

They tried. Cruz came off like Nixon on steroids, and Paul wimped out in his first media confrontation. Not going to happen for either.
Posted by: Ordinary American
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Both appeal to the intellect but not to the gut. The fact that Cruz ran a close race in TX to Beto is a sign he is not a retail politician. Paul is also one that appeals to the intellect but the interest groups in the GOP umbrella would take him out in the primaries (defense and nat sec crew).

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:12 AM (CXr4y)

641 Untold story in PA is that of Sean Parnell who was submarined as a candidate probably by Rove in order to put McCormick in there.
A lot of these lifestyle hits are being financed by GOPe operatives and Conservative Media Tm that promotes them.
Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:05 AM (CXr4y)

And Parnell would have romped to victory.

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 09, 2022 09:12 AM (fatpD)

642 >>>I'm willing to be convinced of this, but from what I've seen of the pre-election and exit polls, abortion wasn't anywhere near anyone's top issue.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete

Pete, I can't imagine what else drove them. They cannot possibly think Fetterman was a smart choice. I mean, they can, but that's stupid even for Democrats.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:13 AM (d2bW3)

643 From Forward Observer:

"2024 TRUMP INTRIGUE ACCELERATES: Former President Donald Trump continues to tout a 'big announcement' for next week, following widespread speculation that he would officially launch his 2024 presidential campaign. In an interview last night, Trump threatened Florida Governor Ron DeSantis with releasing damaging information if DeSantis ran for president in 2024. 'If he runs, he could hurt himself very badly. I would tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering - I know more about him than anybody, other than, perhaps, his wife.'"

...

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at November 09, 2022 09:13 AM (MkuC5)

644 639 I get what you're saying, but as far as I can tell, FL has no bench. [ . . . ]

If you want to know what it's like not to have decent people left behind to run things, look at CA. We went from Reagan to Newsom in no-time flat. Or NY, where Pataki had multiple terms to change things, proceeded not to, and now we have Hochul.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM

Good thing we have Sears and Miyares here, both who probably also want our top seat...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 09:13 AM (exHjb)

645 I am moving to WV. No chance they will vote Dem in my lifetime for Pres. my guess is the Manchin schtick has worn its course. The Dems are not even trying here for good red reason. If the shit ever happens, at least I can say I was well situated.

Posted by: Quint at November 09, 2022 09:13 AM (qsnKg)

646 Combine it with a food thread! Lime jello with fruit in it as a sacrament.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2022 09:07 AM (LsEU/)

I see you've been reading Lutheran Church Basement Women for the recipes.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (4I/2K)

647 Agree. I'd prefer a Car Thread.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Hungarian language thread

Posted by: Hi, I'm Miklos and I'll be your Hungarian server at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (SP4pi)

648 Fetterman For President!

Posted by: Aw fuck it at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (sn5EN)

649 Well, if this doesn't cheer you up, nothing will:

"WNBA star Brittney Griner has been transferred to a forced labor colony to serve out a nine-and-a-half year sentence"

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (Y5qcH)

650 And don't forget that DeSantis barely won Florida Governor race in 2018. +13,000 votes, +0.4%. So Florida is truly a toss-up state seemingly every Presidential election and every Governor election.

Regarding how quickly things can change, another state to look at is Illinois. It had Republican Governors for decades, but just within the last 15-20 years has it gone deep blue and deeply corrupt.
Posted

Florida is in a vastly different place than 2018. Combination of a more conservative electorate, and voting integrity.

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (fatpD)

651 648 Fetterman For President!
Posted by: Aw fuck it at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (sn5EN)

yesssss..... yessssss.........

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (MkuC5)

652
It's amazing after the open election fraud we've seen in now four national cycles in a row, that people still think strategy or candidates matter at all, when there's no connection between voters and election outcomes.

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It's why I say a new Party must be a *movement* Party, and more movement than Party. The electoral politicking is not effective. It needs to be done, it provides an air of legitimacy, but if any movement is to succeed in derailing the regime, it must have a heavy, palpable presence in the streets. Voters can't scare the regime into changing or going away. But angry mobs surely can.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (oINRc)

653 I posted a bit about this in the earlier thread, but when I went to vote near Racine (WI) yesterday, there were three cars with out-of-state plates. Sure, they could be rentals, and I tend to think the one with the TX plates may have been as there were two white-haired men who stepped out of the car (one who seemed to be pushing 90, which is NOT the typical profile for shenanigans) but right out in front were two cars plated with IL plates. It's one of the oldest games in the book - bringing IL people up to WI to vote - and though it may be nothing, I got a picture of the cars & forwarded it on to the county sheriff, as he seems to be one of the only county sheriffs who seems to deeply care about this type of stuff. (Christopher Schmaling, who did the big investigation of and national press conference about the nursing home shenanigans in 2020).

Posted by: Katja at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (GDvjU)

654 My garments are rent, but they were already like that before yesterday. We tried.

Posted by: gp Embraces The Suck at November 09, 2022 09:15 AM (24fqN)

655 >>>I am moving to WV. No chance they will vote Dem in my lifetime for Pres. my guess is the Manchin schtick has worn its course.

Posted by: Quint

My middle son was recruited to a college in WV. Gorgeous state, good people for the most part.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:15 AM (d2bW3)

656 Cruz makes Oz look like walter Pidgeon

he is truly unlikeable

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 09:15 AM (us2H3)

657 In fairness, where we are was ot somethig that happened within a presidency or two it happened since the 70s

Posted by: Y5 at November 09, 2022 09:15 AM (hABRf)

658 >>>"WNBA star Brittney Griner has been transferred to a forced labor colony to serve out a nine-and-a-half year sentence"

Posted by: sniffybigtoe

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:16 AM (d2bW3)

659 617 544 tell that to Nova. Nova is full of people from PA and NY. I would guess ten from PA and NY move to Nova for one Virginian who moves there.

Not bragging about Nova, but it is the statism. People are going to gravitate to an ever growing state.
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Its the sugar bowl. You don't divvy up trillions of $ every year in the same locale and not attract cockroaches.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 09:16 AM (ppL7t)

660 So did we not take the House ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2022 09:16 AM (bs+z0)

661 I am a little surprised to hear people lamenting the apparent Fetterman win over Oz. Seriously, we're talking about a state where the GOP practically fell over themselves to avoid considering, let alone actually accusing the state's legislature of election fraud despite ample evidence. The same is true of Georgia, so don't be surprised when Warnock triumphs over Walker.

The GOPe is compromised and they're not going to do anything lest their complicity in the 2020 election be brought to light.

The idea that we're gonna vote our way out of this, or that Trumpism is somehow the resolution to vote fraud is silly.

Nothing meaningful will happen until 2020 is resolved and those responsible are held accountable.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 09, 2022 09:16 AM (tBR6g)

662
The Teen Gauleiter got through in Harris County, TX. Enjoy, Houston!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (MoZTd)

663 So did we not take the House ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2022 09:16 AM (bs+z0)
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Don't know yet. I was expecting to, that's for sure. I wasn't confident in taking the Senate, but I was confident in taking the House.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (DU+/6)

664 Te: Kari Lake comments on voter fraud — you think that they wouldn’t have stolen it if she had been quiet about that? Really??

Posted by: lizzy at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (I/doM)

665 655 >>>I am moving to WV. No chance they will vote Dem in my lifetime for Pres. my guess is the Manchin schtick has worn its course.
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I wouldn't count on that.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (ppL7t)

666 I am moving to WV. No chance they will vote Dem in my lifetime for Pres. my guess is the Manchin schtick has worn its course.

Bad news. Eastern part of the state is slowly trending blue. Too close to NOVA.

Posted by: Jaguar at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (go3dL)

667 Fetterman has an implanted pacemaker to counteract his AFib now and he certainly is now on blood thinners and other meds. He will live with this for decades.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 09, 2022 08:56 AM (0YcX1)
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Is Eliquis and Meterolol covered under the Senate plan, does anyone know.

I should have checked before the election but I never thought I'd win, so help a dude out here.

Posted by: Lumpy Fenstermonster at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (GGn75)

668 And don't forget that DeSantis barely won Florida Governor race in 2018. +13,000 votes, +0.4%. So Florida is truly a toss-up state seemingly every Presidential election and every Governor election.

Regarding how quickly things can change, another state to look at is Illinois. It had Republican Governors for decades, but just within the last 15-20 years has it gone deep blue and deeply corrupt.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 09:12 AM (Do5/p)
*******
Imagine how different things would look if Andrew Gillum had won.
Elections matter and things can turn around rapidly.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (NpAcC)

669 So did we not take the House ?
Posted by: It's me donna

And it WAS Lupus

Posted by: House Dr. Miklos at November 09, 2022 09:18 AM (SP4pi)

670 So did we not take the House ?

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We've got to wait for the Democrats to stop counting.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 09, 2022 09:18 AM (hub+L)

671 666 I am moving to WV. No chance they will vote Dem in my lifetime for Pres. my guess is the Manchin schtick has worn its course.

Bad news. Eastern part of the state is slowly trending blue. Too close to NOVA.
Posted by: Jaguar at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (go3dL)

WV has been actively recruiting feds to move there...

Thus, why I encourage reds to move to VA - we have more red areas and ballot security. And with Rs at the top, less desire for feds to stay here vs MD (and now WV with the recruiting)...

Posted by: Nova local at November 09, 2022 09:19 AM (exHjb)

672 Scott Pressler said on Twitter that no one from the Republican party has acknowledged his GOTV efforts. It's why we lose. Registering new voters and showing them Repubs aren't evil should be a priority.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 09, 2022 09:19 AM (uz3Px)

673 I am moving to WV. No chance they will vote Dem in my lifetime for Pres. my guess is the Manchin schtick has worn its course.

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That's the cool part. They don't have to. Not really.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 09, 2022 09:19 AM (hub+L)

674 People want substance over hyperbole. They already know you're not the other guy. They want to know how you will specifically fix things. What will you do? How will you do it?

Largely, the people who answered those questions won last night.

Politics are also local. The failure of some to see that is really inexcusable. Many of the local races reflect end that dynamic. Where people tried to inject national political issue, they either lost or squeaked it out.

People are also tired of the current political environment and the players. That includes Trump. It's time for him to ride off into the sunset with the rest of these relics.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2022 09:19 AM (eacmp)

675 >>>The GOPe is compromised and they're not going to do anything lest their complicity in the 2020 election be brought to light.

The idea that we're gonna vote our way out of this, or that Trumpism is somehow the resolution to vote fraud is silly.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

Agreed. PA is gone. With a few exceptions, we've had Democrat governors for most of my life. We also usually have a GOP legislature who cannot do anything to fix this awful state because the governors veto everything.

Shapiro will be galactically worse than Wolf. Heard it here first.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:19 AM (d2bW3)

676 Hey, Wyatt, are you surprised by Fetterman as Senator?

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 09:19 AM (ppL7t)

677 last night was like I was riding shotgun and get stopped for speeding

and I got the ticket

Posted by: REDACTED at November 09, 2022 09:19 AM (us2H3)

678 It's probably not insignificant to realize that the results of yesterday could not be more perfect for the deep state rallying cry of Trump is over. I'd vote for desantis in a heartbeat but lets realize that yesterday was a hugely successful psyop for the deep state. The fact they are saying trump needs to retire and made the election reflect. It only strengthens my resolve that voting for trump is exactly what needs to be done.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 09, 2022 09:10 AM

This was exactly my first thought this morning as I woke up reading a number of people on the right on Twitter saying this, that this election result means Trump must go.

That is the absolute perfect result for the Deep State and GOPe. The Deep State and GOPe don't want just Trump gone, they want the entire MAGA movement gone as well. So everything Trump stands for, the Deep State and GOPe reject.

I very much believe that if the right dumps Trump, the Left will use that to say that everything that Trump stood for is now being dumped as well. Remember, the Deep State and GOPe have labeled 74+ million Trump voters as domestic terrorists. They want us all gone, not just Trump.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 09:19 AM (Do5/p)

679 Kemp looks like he has some sort of corrupt bargain with Abrams. I think he'll be a long-term mainstay of Georgia politics while other statewide offices will be "blue".
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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He is term limited. The rest of the state executive branch won their races by about the same or a bit less than Kemp 51-52 percent.

Walker underperformed versus the rest of the GOP ticket and I think part of that is GOPe ticket splitters of the professional classes. He got 100k less votes than the Republican Lt. Governor got and 200k less than Kemp. Have to do a specific precinct by precinct analysis for that.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:19 AM (CXr4y)

680 668 Imagine how different things would look if Andrew Gillum had won.
Elections matter and things can turn around rapidly.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (N

It took 75 years for the Soviet Union to collapse. And the Chi-Coms are now nearing that mark. Once you go red - and I mean commie - you don't go back. Look at California.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 09:20 AM (x0n13)

681 The Teen Gauleiter got through in Harris County, TX. Enjoy, Houston!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (MoZTd)

BOHICA chica!

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2022 09:20 AM (4I/2K)

682 Things are about to get a LOT worse before they get better.
Posted by: dr_mantis_toboggan_md

Things are about to get a lot worse. Period. FIFY
Posted by: Ziba

I'm praying they do. A lot of people need to feel real pain for their choices.
Posted by: rickb223
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I generally agree. There are still a lot of people who've not felt any sort of financial pain from the recession. I haven't. I know gas and diesel is 3, 4 or 5 times more expensive than it was 2 years ago. I know that certain foods are more expensive than I care to pay. But sometimes I do anyway. My utilities are 2X what they were last year.

The bigger question is whether people will connect the dots.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2022 09:20 AM (Q4IgG)

683 Fuck all this soul searching.
We got robbed.

Posted by: espinostifer at November 09, 2022 09:20 AM (mcAgZ)

684
As of 9:04 am 49.7% of Pennsylvania voters DID NOT vote for Festerman.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 09:21 AM (y3pKJ)

685 678 It's probably not insignificant to realize that the results of yesterday could not be more perfect for the deep state rallying cry of Trump is over. I'd vote for desantis in a heartbeat but lets realize that yesterday was a hugely successful psyop for the deep state. The fact they are saying trump needs to retire and made the election reflect. It only strengthens my resolve that voting for trump is exactly what needs to be done.

Posted by: Eli Cash
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Psyops only work if you believe in them. Always ground yourself to facts rather than opinions and you'll go through their illusions like tissue paper.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:21 AM (CXr4y)

686 "WNBA star Brittney Griner has been transferred to a forced labor colony to serve out a nine-and-a-half year sentence"

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That poor man. All because he thought he could carry his pot into Russia.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 09, 2022 09:21 AM (hub+L)

687 WV has been actively recruiting feds to move there...
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There are quite a number of Spook operations there (Spooks meaning Intel Ops).

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 09:21 AM (ppL7t)

688 Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2022 09:04 AM (eacmp)
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Amen, Marcus.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at November 09, 2022 09:21 AM (5pTK/)

689 BOHICA chica!
Posted by: Count de Monet

I don't even know what "BOHICA" means.

Does that make me a bad person?

Posted by: Mystified Miklos at November 09, 2022 09:21 AM (SP4pi)

690 Last night was far and away more terrifying than 2020. I strongly suspect there was NOT much cheating beyond the normal Democrat fuckery. Slightly more than half of the country approves of what is going on. That raises the question of what they will not accept. My gut is a helluva lot more.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 09, 2022 09:22 AM (kJLpK)

691 The bigger question is whether people will connect the dots.

The history of 20th century America says no.

Posted by: Jaguar at November 09, 2022 09:22 AM (go3dL)

692 I know that certain foods are more expensive than I care to pay. But sometimes I do anyway. My utilities are 2X what they were last year.

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Food and energy are both 2x what they were under Trump.

But Democrats need to kill black babies.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 09, 2022 09:22 AM (hub+L)

693 >>>Hey, Wyatt, are you surprised by Fetterman as Senator?

Posted by: Puddinhead

Honestly, no. The steal was in, and Oz was not a great candidate. Central PA is pretty red, but not red enough, and the east and west are uber-blue.

I don't care about the senate race, because the governorship will be much worse. Fetterman is a moron, but Shapiro is evil.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:23 AM (d2bW3)

694 647 Agree. I'd prefer a Car Thread.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Hungarian language thread
Posted by: Hi, I'm Miklos and I'll be your Hungarian server at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (SP4pi)

I only know the curse words but what else would one need?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 09:23 AM (x0n13)

695 The bigger question is whether people will connect the dots.

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I ain't learn to read no dots, yo.
- Atlanta and Philadelphia voters

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 09, 2022 09:23 AM (hub+L)

696 We will be punished and we will thank our masters for thier firm hand. Now Smell the Glove gimp.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 09:23 AM (ppL7t)

697 Old and busted: There’s no such thing as a free lunch

New hotness: Coloradoans vote for free public school lunch for all.

I suppose I should be happy we didn’t vote to give free lunch to all the kids in Ukraine, too?

Posted by: lizzy at November 09, 2022 09:23 AM (I/doM)

698 690 Last night was far and away more terrifying than 2020. I strongly suspect there was NOT much cheating beyond the normal Democrat fuckery. Slightly more than half of the country approves of what is going on. That raises the question of what they will not accept. My gut is a helluva lot more.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 09, 2022 09:22 AM (kJLpK)

AZ or GA were the only ones that had the appearance of above average fuckery. It's plausible most other areas were back to the 1% normal margin.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 09, 2022 09:23 AM (eYoxG)

699 514 (2) No celebrities dropping into the race out of nowhere. If you're going to run a celebrity in a top-level race, he's got to start smaller, and prove that he can campaign, persuade, and win.

Would you count Vance as a "celebrity candidate"?
Posted by: 18-1
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Yes. Vance underperformed the governor by a considerable margin, which demonstrates the risk of running celebrities. Fortunately Ohio is red enough to absorb the ticket-splitting. So I'm happy to amend my rule to say that you can run a celebrity in a strong red state.

I actually considered adding something to my original rules that would have captured Vance (and Ronad Reagan!). If your celebrity has established credibility as a serious political thinker and persuader, the maybe you can roll the dice. What I really don't want is the nomination of a celebrity purely because of name recognition. Walker is a sportsball hero. Great. That's fucking useless.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 09:23 AM (4QgJj)

700 I ain't learn to read no dots, yo.
- Atlanta and Philadelphia voters
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I believe this should be signed by Ballot Harvesters and Civil Servants in each Secretary of State running elections.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 09:25 AM (ppL7t)

701 >>>As of 9:04 am 49.7% of Pennsylvania voters DID NOT vote for Festerman.

Posted by: Divide by Zero

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette endorsed Oz after a blistering story about Fetterman's inability to work in the senate. They never endorse a GOP candidate, which is very fishy.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:25 AM (d2bW3)

702 650 And don't forget that DeSantis barely won Florida Governor race in 2018. +13,000 votes, +0.4%.
Posted by: Tofer732 at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (fatpD)

After taking office, Desantis entered the valley of Republican death in South Florida and slew the Jackasses with their own jawbones, overthrowing the tables of the vote manipulators.

Last night was reflective of an honest election in Florida, and the results would have been the same in 2018 had the results been honest.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at November 09, 2022 09:25 AM (MkuC5)

703
I'm praying they do. A lot of people need to feel real pain for their choices.
Posted by: rickb223

100% agree. Until people start feeling pain - not able to adequately heat their home, can't afford food, etc. - then they won't wake up.

And then they will start saying they want amnesty for their mistakes (Just like we saw last week with COVID). And the reply should be same as we all agreed on last week regarding COVID.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 09, 2022 09:25 AM (EUwGL)

704 Hobbs over Lake.. Shows campaigning from your basement works

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2022 09:25 AM (bs+z0)

705 642 >>>I'm willing to be convinced of this, but from what I've seen of the pre-election and exit polls, abortion wasn't anywhere near anyone's top issue.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete

Pete, I can't imagine what else drove them. They cannot possibly think Fetterman was a smart choice. I mean, they can, but that's stupid even for Democrats.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:13 AM (d2bW3)
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Your right Wyatt. They drove it into the ground in WI and Evers won and Johnson barely survived. I know because the circle of conservative women I know said it was "The" issue. It didn't help that WI laws on the books after Dobbs didn't allow for any abortions with no exceptions.

Posted by: WisRich at November 09, 2022 09:25 AM (G0vdT)

706 I only know the curse words but what else would one need?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Basz Meg shall be our greeting

(proper response for recognition-Az Anyad, basz meg)

Posted by: Magyar with Miklos at November 09, 2022 09:25 AM (SP4pi)

707 I don't even know what "BOHICA" means.

Does that make me a bad person?
Posted by: Mystified Miklos at November 09, 2022 09:21 AM (SP4pi)

Bend
Over
Here
It
Comes
Again

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2022 09:25 AM (4I/2K)

708 Not bragging about Nova, but it is the statism. People are going to gravitate to an ever growing state.
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The sugar bowl also offers sanctuary near the castle walls.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 09, 2022 09:25 AM (MIKMs)

709 Roe, Roe, Roe my wife! Serve!

Posted by: Lumpy Fenstermonster at November 09, 2022 09:26 AM (GGn75)

710 To continue

1 MI, 1 Mt, 2 Nv, 1 NJ, 1 NM, 5 Ny, 3 OR, 1WI,

So while the hopes don't rest 100% on CA, it'll be hard without a few there

Posted by: Rbastid at November 09, 2022 09:26 AM (2ROZf)

711
I only know the curse words but what else would one need?
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A superior goulash recipe.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 09:26 AM (ppL7t)

712 454 Nst, you are spot on. For some reason, the R's never seem to play a really comprehensive attack game, maybe it is too much like work?
And having the media stacked against you doesn't help, but if an R candidate was making daily pointed reasoned speeches some of that would have to leak through to the few sentient beings left that still vote!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at November 09, 2022 08:46 AM (hOUT3)

Conservatives and Republicans are generally supposed to be Responsible Self-Starters.

Not just that, getting constantly hounded by a candidate to vote for them is more likely to foster annoyance and resentment in an independent-minded person than anything else.

Posted by: XTC at November 09, 2022 09:26 AM (UnA8+)

713 674 People want substance over hyperbole. They already know you're not the other guy. They want to know how you will specifically fix things. What will you do? How will you do it?

Largely, the people who answered those questions won last night.

Politics are also local. The failure of some to see that is really inexcusable. Many of the local races reflect end that dynamic. Where people tried to inject national political issue, they either lost or squeaked it out.

People are also tired of the current political environment and the players. That includes Trump. It's time for him to ride off into the sunset with the rest of these relics. Posted by: Marcus T
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I am not sure that is true. When identity (your tribe) becomes more important than reason, a whole lot of bad results come from that.

At some point in the near future, we will see a massive spike in unemployment, perhaps a new foreign policy headache, and large increases in the price of fuel. There will be product shortages of all sorts like Amoxicillin is right now.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:26 AM (CXr4y)

714 LMAO!!!! All the you people that said Trump needs to not run in 2024 and be a king maker because that is what he is good at and let DeSantis be the nominee are now conveniently forgetting what you said and laying it all at Trumps Feet? BWAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAA.

Posted by: JROD at November 09, 2022 09:26 AM (0jZnq)

715 Kari Lake comments on voter fraud — you think that they wouldn’t have stolen it if she had been quiet about that? Really??

Yeah, it seems like the better time to let your voters know you believe the election was stolen is when you still have cameras on you.

Once the steal is completed, she'll be unpersonned.

Posted by: Methos at November 09, 2022 09:26 AM (kOpft)

716 We're out..we passed voting rights and drop boxes, not sure what other fraud is baked into the amendment

Posted by: A dude in MI at November 09, 2022 09:26 AM (/6GbT)

717 I understand, that's why I have no faith in anything getting better in this nation for a long time, if ever.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 09, 2022 09:03 AM (qH6FZ)

Well don't be too bummed.

We are the ones that have hope. We carry the Good News!

That's why I had to, at laborious length, post my diatribe to JJ the other morning that win, lose or draw, our hope is not in politics or men, but in the Word, who was in the beginning, is in our present hour and will be with us throughout all of time in a world made new that is free of all the wretchedness of our current circumstances.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2022 09:27 AM (xLqhd)

718 There is a different kind of voter fraud that has been occurring more and more.

The person you vote for is NOT the person who will serve. It is a staffer or a ghost staff.

Joe Biden was inaugurated to the office, but he is not the President.

John Fetterman is going to the Senate, but he is incapable of meeting with lobbyists, or negotiating politically with colleagues or rivals. He will not be a Senator. His Chief of Staff will.

Diane Feinstein in California is absolutely incapable of functioning. Her office is run by a Chief of Staff no one elected.

This is the real election fraud and it is intolerable.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 09, 2022 09:27 AM (lf83v)

719 Youngkin/DeSantis 2024?

Posted by: Floridachick at November 09, 2022 09:27 AM (Q87sy)

720 The sugar bowl also offers sanctuary near the castle walls.
Posted by: mustbequantum

John has a long mustache.
Snoopy loves his doghouse.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2022 09:27 AM (RvuYE)

721 Conservatives and Republicans are generally supposed to be Responsible Self-Starters.

Not just that, getting constantly hounded by a candidate to vote for them is more likely to foster annoyance and resentment in an independent-minded person than anything else.
Posted by: XTC
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GOTV is best done by traditional door knocking and humans, not robocalls or texts.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:27 AM (CXr4y)

722 I only know the curse words but what else would one need?
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A superior goulash recipe.
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 09:26 AM (ppL7t)

Smoked paprika

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2022 09:27 AM (4I/2K)

723 By the way, we need a healthy Republican primary. I'm not ready to coronate any candidate, no matter who they are. I also already did't trust the polls and never will. I'm not ready to concede any candidate is the popular favorite until they've faced the ultimate test- the voters.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2022 09:27 AM (eacmp)

724 Here are your minimum traits:

(1) No carpetbaggers. Especially no carpetbaggers from New Jersey.

(2) No celebrities dropping into the race out of nowhere. If you're going to run a celebrity in a top-level race, he's got to start smaller, and prove that he can campaign, persuade, and win.

There are more, but those two are the absolute minimum.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 08:53 AM

Almost sounds like no more Trumps. The GOPe agrees.

Posted by: Grimmy at November 09, 2022 09:28 AM (KDTUY)

725 I don't care about the senate race, because the governorship will be much worse. Fetterman is a moron, but Shapiro is evil.

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Shapiro will ensure the fraud will get even bigger (if possible).

I've said before, but I just don't get PA. I guess it is much closer to Illinois than I imagined.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at November 09, 2022 09:28 AM (sX1BW)

726 Hungarian language thread
Posted by: Hi, I'm Miklos and I'll be your Hungarian server at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (SP4pi)

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soha ne mond hogy soha...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2022 09:28 AM (YIVH2)

727 705 642 >>>I'm willing to be convinced of this, but from what I've seen of the pre-election and exit polls, abortion wasn't anywhere near anyone's top issue.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete
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Umm it sort of worked for Spannberger but the real reason she won is she is a former CIA operative. Remember, Obama is scion of two generations of CIA and State Department Operatives. Seems the Company is the man behind the curtain.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 09:28 AM (ppL7t)

728 I'm 81. Fuck it all. I'm going to become a Dim and suck up all the Biden bucks I can get and kill babies.

BTW, Trump's threatening DeSantis with scandal revelations is dumb. May have to hang up my red cap.

Posted by: Dingbat at November 09, 2022 09:28 AM (U09tN)

729 Well I believe we will win in the long term. Here's why, conservativists are having 30% more kids than liberals. Conservativists are having those kids a lot younger than liberals aswell. 80% of these kids will keep their conservative values and vote red when they become adults. Here's a kicker around 30% of LIBERAL kids will flip red when they become adults and vote red. This means that in the year 2030 the demographics will flip to the favor of the conservatives and do so for long time.

Posted by: Genzconservativist at November 09, 2022 09:28 AM (pmoqr)

730 719 Youngkin/DeSantis 2024?
Posted by: Floridachick
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Too early. DeSantis is just entering his second term and Youngkin has been governor for about one year. So, we will see in 2024 if Youngkin continues to govern well and ditto for DeSantis.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (CXr4y)

731 The Teen Gauleiter got through in Harris County, TX. Enjoy, Houston!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (MoZTd)

Who are we talking about?

Posted by: MAC V SOG at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (P4Pk9)

732 The person you vote for is NOT the person who will serve. It is a staffer or a ghost staff.

Joe Biden was inaugurated to the office, but he is not the President.

John Fetterman is going to the Senate, but he is incapable of meeting with lobbyists, or negotiating politically with colleagues or rivals. He will not be a Senator. His Chief of Staff will.

Diane Feinstein in California is absolutely incapable of functioning. Her office is run by a Chief of Staff no one elected.

This is the real election fraud and it is intolerable.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Go deeper. Deep state. THEY are the real ones to run the country. Department heads are just that. A figurehead.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (RvuYE)

733 Diane Feinstein in California is absolutely incapable of functioning. Her office is run by a Chief of Staff no one elected.

This is the real election fraud and it is intolerable.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 09, 2022 09:27 AM (lf83v)

I mean, Trump's term was a four-year demonstration on how powerless a president is against a vast number of unelected bureaucrats.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (KbCG3)

734 710 To continue

1 MI, 1 Mt, 2 Nv, 1 NJ, 1 NM, 5 Ny, 3 OR, 1WI,

So while the hopes don't rest 100% on CA, it'll be hard without a few there
Posted by: Rbastid at November 09, 2022 09:26 AM (2ROZf)

Which districts in CA? Orange County has had serious issues for a while.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (eYoxG)

735
GOTV is best done by traditional door knocking and humans, not robocalls or texts.
Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:27 AM (CXr4y)

NONSENSE, whig! If you donate $5 to STOP BIDEN & PELOSI's radical agenda, the RNC will provide $200b yuan in matching funds - this is OUR FINAL OFFER!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (oINRc)

736 WV has been actively recruiting feds to move there...
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There are quite a number of Spook operations there (Spooks meaning Intel Ops).

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 09:21 AM (ppL7t)

There are a fair # that commute to DC

Posted by: BignJames at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (AwYPR)

737 I only know the curse words but what else would one need?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 09:23 AM (x0n13)
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I went to school with an Indian guy from an absurdly wealthy family (they were tea barons). He, like many Indians of his class, was mutlilingual. He spoke an odd assortment of languages. He spoke German but not French. He spoke Russian. He spoke Vietnamese but not Mandarin. Various others. I once asked him why he chose to learn the languages he did.

He replied, "the first thing I did was to learn to swear. If the swearing is excellent, the language is worth learning." He told me that English and Russian were the best swearing languages.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (DU+/6)

738 >>>Your right Wyatt. They drove it into the ground in WI and Evers won and Johnson barely survived. I know because the circle of conservative women I know said it was "The" issue.

Posted by: WisRich

And these super smart leftist women don't realize the matter went to the states. But hey, enjoy losing your IRA accounts with Democrat majorities, and see how that works out for ya.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (d2bW3)

739 Central PA is super Red. They don’t have many squishy areas like some states. I was in PA in the lead up to the 2016 election. Now way I ever saw a more pro Trump region, and I am talking a huge region.

PA is about Philly and Pittsburgh. My guess is most of the cheating comes from Philly, dead relatives, voting for those who just want to be left alone, that kind of crooked shit.

Posted by: Quint at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (qsnKg)

740 It
Comes
Again
Posted by: Count de Monet

Thanks.

I'll try to stick with this part.

Posted by: Miklos thinks the bars will be full off cute unhappy right-minded chicks who need Comforting at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (SP4pi)

741 GOTV is best done by traditional door knocking and humans, not robocalls or texts.
Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:27 AM (CXr4y)

Or email spam.

[Donald, you are blocked]

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (MkuC5)

742 The person you vote for is NOT the person who will serve. It is a staffer or a ghost staff.

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Increasingly you are just electing a vote for the party and that is all. To be honest, that is what it has been for a very long time. We just had a pretense of also electing an individual. That pretense is gone - at least on the Democrat side.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at November 09, 2022 09:30 AM (sX1BW)

743 Imagine how different things would look if Andrew Gillum had won.
Elections matter and things can turn around rapidly.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (N

It took 75 years for the Soviet Union to collapse. And the Chi-Coms are now nearing that mark. Once you go red - and I mean commie - you don't go back. Look at California.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 09:20 AM (x0n13)

It turns out the elections are the opiate of the masses.

Posted by: Methos at November 09, 2022 09:30 AM (kOpft)

744
For every 1 Oz vote in Philadelphia, Festerman got 5. Take Philly out of the totals and Oz wins easily. Free shit army will always vote for free shit.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 09, 2022 09:30 AM (y3pKJ)

745 Diane Feinstein in California is absolutely incapable of functioning. Her office is run by a Chief of Staff no one elected.
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Yes. Just like Ron Klain.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 09:30 AM (ppL7t)

746 nood

Posted by: gp Embraces The Suck at November 09, 2022 09:30 AM (24fqN)

747 Nothing meaningful will happen until 2020 is resolved and those responsible are held accountable.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 09, 2022 09:16 AM (tBR6g)

Well, we already know that isn't going to happen.
We are doomed. If last night wasn't evidence of that, what was it?

Posted by: Ziba at November 09, 2022 09:30 AM (4h9M3)

748 Free shit army will always vote for free shit.
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Free shit army actually doesn't vote. Their masters do it for them.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 09, 2022 09:30 AM (ppL7t)

749 Noodus gratia artis.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 09, 2022 09:31 AM (DceKn)

750 In fairness, Trump is running so get used to it now

Posted by: Y5 at November 09, 2022 09:31 AM (hABRf)

751 The Teen Gauleiter got through in Harris County, TX. Enjoy, Houston!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2022 09:17 AM (MoZTd)

Who are we talking about?
Posted by: MAC V SOG at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM (P4Pk9)

Lina Hidalgo, Columbian communist via Stanford as chief executive of Harris County for another 6 year term.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2022 09:31 AM (4I/2K)

752 So, here in New York, when someone in New York City gets killed or a family is wiped out in a fire because a met lab explodes or a drunk illegal alien drives into a minivan and kills everyone inside, or a Asian woman is attacked with a hatchet on the subway, IDGAF. IDGAFF. NFTG. None.

New York City can burn. You want Hochul and Letitia James so you want crime and death and rapes and corruption.

Good luck, you third-world hell hole.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 09, 2022 09:32 AM (lf83v)

753 He told me that English and Russian were the best swearing languages.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I am so polite, I will not mention either of your parents for the first 6 minutes.

Posted by: Miklos can cuss fluently in several languages, and does so to Jugdish from Bangalore at November 09, 2022 09:32 AM (SP4pi)

754 723 By the way, we need a healthy Republican primary. I'm not ready to coronate any candidate, no matter who they are. I also already did't trust the polls and never will. I'm not ready to concede any candidate is the popular favorite until they've faced the ultimate test- the voters.
Posted by: Marcus T
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I am not sure that a 'healthy' primary system exists anymore. I personally favor caucuses or even the old convention system run by a federated (not national) state party system and a revival of bottom up state parties. That system exists on paper as a relic of the past but reinvigorating it would be a large step to revitalizing American politics.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:32 AM (CXr4y)

755 I don't believe the grifter and potato that is Fetterman is a better, more accomplished man than he.

I gather the data says Lump won because of women voters. That gets disturbing in a hurry if you combine it with the conventional wisdom that women vote for who they most want to have sex with.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2022 09:32 AM (ZGrMX)

756 "I don't care about the senate race, because the governorship will be much worse. Fetterman is a moron, but Shapiro is evil.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp"
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THIS!

Posted by: Cosda at November 09, 2022 09:33 AM (8NK+a)

757 with the conventional wisdom that women vote for who they most want to have sex with.

Oh Fetterman show me your lump. No, not your penis your sexy sexy lump!

Posted by: Some AWFL at November 09, 2022 09:33 AM (ESjRY)

758 Great points, Sefton. Schmitt beat Bush by 17 points.

Last few days, people here treat me like a Doomer. I'm not. But 2020 really woke me up to the hard reality, and I've watched the terrible 5 states closely ever since.

We're way passed using the system to fix the system. The federal gvt is fully illegitimate. It's completely in the hands of the enemy. We only have individual states, now. We must keep Free States as free as we can until the violence goes fully hot.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 09, 2022 09:34 AM (q5EoS)

759 733 Diane Feinstein in California is absolutely incapable of functioning. Her office is run by a Chief of Staff no one elected.

This is the real election fraud and it is intolerable.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
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The Senate has had vegetables in the past serving which is why the greatest deliberative body would be well served by having a horse as a member. They already now have Frankenstein's Monster.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:34 AM (CXr4y)

760 Well, on the bright side, winter is coming, fuel prices are about to skyrocket, inflation is here for the foreseeable future, and we will be in a full blown recession next year. Sounds like a good record for Biden to run on in 2024.

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 09, 2022 09:35 AM (fatpD)

761 In 2016, Trump had a killer theme: Make America Great Again.
He then secretly honed his messages in a Twitter lab in San Antonio, scores of folks testing what worked.

In 2024, he'll have the same theme-- you could argue rejected in 2018, 2020 and 2022-- and no testing.

His endorsements look more like branding than building now.

He's same guy who went golfing the day after Election Day 2020. Not the guy to gather a war cabinet to lay siege upon all Democrats everywhere.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2022 09:36 AM (5EnGD)

762 "Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:26 AM (CXr4y)"

There is a certain amount of tribe voting. That's what has killed NY. People ultimately vote against their own self interest, like they just did, because the people in charge have convinced them it's a team sport. Very few people understand simple facts such as abortion is simply now a states right, not federal, and it will be decided by the voters. They've also, like a cult, full bought into every lie about the opposition. You can't fight all of that, but the most effective counter strategy is to be specific in what you will do, and how you will do it. People can digest that in a material way and (often) make a cogent decision. Incidentally, candidate who make most of their arguments with pathos pleas feed into that short circuiting. They give credence to the lie with a lack of specificity and hyperbole. They are often also grievance peddlers and political harlequins more interested in the sound of their own voice and ego than anything else. It has to stop for us to win.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2022 09:36 AM (eacmp)

763 Go deeper. Deep state. THEY are the real ones to run the country. Department heads are just that. A figurehead.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2022 09:29 AM

Even deeper, in my opinion. Every Deep State in every Western nation is controlled or compromised by the WEF and China and George Soros. You note that all these radical left-wing policies are pushed in every single Western nation in the world.

"Climate change" policies, illegal alien invasion policies, child sexual exploitation and mutilation policies, gender dysphoria policies, CRT policies, DIE policies, etc etc etc. All of this is being pushed on every Western nation in the world. Not to mention every institution and corporation in the world.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 09:36 AM (Do5/p)

764 @674

>>People are also tired of the current political environment and the players. That includes Trump. It's time for him to ride off into the sunset with the rest of these relics.

There was always going to be a time to contemplate Trumpism without Trump, this result is as good a time as any.

With the country apparently half full of insane maniacs, abortion and trans enthusiasts, I really don't see where we go from here.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2022 09:36 AM (vx0T+)

765 >>>IDGAF. IDGAFF. NFTG. None.

New York City can burn. You want Hochul and Letitia James so you want crime and death and rapes and corruption.

Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2022 09:36 AM (d2bW3)

766 694...Hungarian language thread
Posted by: Hi, I'm Miklos and I'll be your Hungarian server at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (SP4pi)

I only know the curse words but what else would one need?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 09:23 AM (x0n13)

I used to play cards in Hungarian. But the aunties wouldn't teach me the rest because they wanted to be able to gossip around the kids...

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at November 09, 2022 09:37 AM (Rbu5d)

767 Regarding how quickly things can change, another state to look at is Illinois. It had Republican Governors for decades, but just within the last 15-20 years has it gone deep blue and deeply corrupt.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 09:12 AM (Do5/p)

Well, in IL even the GOP isn't really. They have a corrupt bargin with the Dem machine in chicago for the scraps.
Right up until 20 or so years ago when the Dems decided they didn't need to pretend anymore and set up the cheat machine.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 09, 2022 09:37 AM (53oGX)

768 Fuck Tony Evers. That POS was never elected let alone re-elected.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist to the Stars at November 09, 2022 09:38 AM (Vu7A1)

769 Anyone else find it interesting it appears the DNC didn't really need to cheat in order to win?

They got plenty of votes, in an off year election where GOP enthusiasm is high.

That's not to say there was no cheating, because we know there was. However, it truly appears the DNC didn't have to cheat that much in order to win.

We've long suspected we've got a lot of people in this country we can no longer live with. Guess what? It appears our suspicions have been confirmed. I'd also point out those citizens who hate us are also the very same people who think state sanctioned goons showing up at our doorstep is a good thing.

Gird your loins, people. It truly appears it's going to get worse.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at November 09, 2022 09:38 AM (5pTK/)

770 2024?

Wow.

Some don't realize there is no path to 270.

PA WI MI are gone.

Maybe AZ.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at November 09, 2022 09:38 AM (Y4KgT)

771 "The Senate has had vegetables in the past serving which is why the greatest deliberative body would be well served by having a horse as a member. They already now have Frankenstein's Monster."
********
Veggie brained Joey Bite-me was in the senate for decades.

Posted by: Cosda at November 09, 2022 09:39 AM (8NK+a)

772 It's why I say a new Party must be a *movement* Party, and more movement than Party. The electoral politicking is not effective. It needs to be done, it provides an air of legitimacy, but if any movement is to succeed in derailing the regime, it must have a heavy, palpable presence in the streets. Voters can't scare the regime into changing or going away. But angry mobs surely can.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2022 09:14 AM (oINRc)

Trump could have done this, and it would have hurt this election but would have had 4 years to build to something in 2024 that could have forced the GOP into sometihng.
Thinking he could turn the GOP to MAGA just let them run the Tea Party playbook and add the new cheat skills to it. I don't think they fix elections I know it.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 09, 2022 09:41 AM (53oGX)

773 There was always going to be a time to contemplate Trumpism without Trump, this result is as good a time as any.

With the country apparently half full of insane maniacs, abortion and trans enthusiasts, I really don't see where we go from here.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2022 09:36 AM (vx0T+)

So here's the apparent problem with Trumpism without Trump. The Trump coalition is not stable. Not all of the voters that Trump brings in become R voters. The Rs need to put together a coherent platform that appeals to the working class (and wouldn't therefore be reliant on personal trust in Trump).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 09, 2022 09:41 AM (eYoxG)

774 So here's the apparent problem with Trumpism without Trump. The Trump coalition is not stable. Not all of the voters that Trump brings in become R voters. The Rs need to put together a coherent platform that appeals to the working class (and wouldn't therefore be reliant on personal trust in Trump).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 09, 2022 09:41 AM (eYoxG)

So just running as not as terrible as they are isn't a good idea?
Even with that we have candidate refusing to debate or show in public but still win races? How is this possible without theft?

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 09, 2022 09:43 AM (53oGX)

775 You can't fight all of that, but the most effective counter strategy is to be specific in what you will do, and how you will do it. People can digest that in a material way and (often) make a cogent decision. Incidentally, candidate who make most of their arguments with pathos pleas feed into that short circuiting. They give credence to the lie with a lack of specificity and hyperbole. They are often also grievance peddlers and political harlequins more interested in the sound of their own voice and ego than anything else. It has to stop for us to win. Posted by: Marcus T
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If the GOP had actually ran a message campaign, it might have given us a natural experiment but essentially I think people deep down know something is badly wrong, drastic changes need to be made, but instead hold their tribal identities even tighter as a way of reassuring themselves it will be all right.

It won't be but I am sure a lot of passengers on the Titanic were simply denying what was happening until they were in the water. They simply moved to higher points of the ship until that was no longer possible.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:43 AM (CXr4y)

776 I think an important fact to consider is that in Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, and other large cities, the number of votes counted is 4 or 5 times higher than the votes cast by voters. This is a huge fraudulent advantage. The ballots are filled out and counted by the machine employees. There is no way those votes were cast in person by the voters.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 09, 2022 09:43 AM (lTGtQ)

777 Off year election with a terrible economy, record inflation, highest crime since 82', disastrous social changes, fresh off a theft of liberty using COVID as a tool, plus who knows what else, and the national GOP can't pull off a decisive victory.

The conditions don't get any better than that. Anyone excusing this as some type of anomaly isn't being honest. In order to win in a meaningful way things need to change.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2022 09:43 AM (eacmp)

778 So just running as not as terrible as they are isn't a good idea?
Even with that we have candidate refusing to debate or show in public but still win races? How is this possible without theft?
Posted by: Inogame
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Tribalism.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:44 AM (CXr4y)

779 Well, I'm now officially part of the "vote harder" crowd.

I'll vote in local and state races, but, national races? Yeah, I think that's over and done with.

Which is fine, as I need to remember my salvation lies not with man, but with Jesus Christ.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at November 09, 2022 09:45 AM (5pTK/)

780 "Judeo-Christian theology" threads are a sure winner.

One of the weak spots in Sunni v Shia is that they don't see enough daily evidence of just how much Christians hate each other. It's right to the bone. Go for it.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 09, 2022 09:45 AM (x61Im)

781 I think the Dem voters are so brainwashed agaisnt Trump and MAGA that they voted the way they did to get rid of him and us.

Posted by: Floridachick at November 09, 2022 09:46 AM (Q87sy)

782 So if the 18-29 crowd went for Dems by 30 points nationwide I'd like to know how they voted in Fl

Posted by: Floridachick at November 09, 2022 09:47 AM (Q87sy)

783 Well we dumped Sean Patrick Baloney, but I think the Dems were punishing him rather than us beating the cheat.

I'll take any bright spot I can.
And boy are they trying to pin all this on Trump. They're terrified.
But honestly, given what we've just witnessed, how is '24 going to be any different? No one in the GOP is serious about stopping fraud. They like being controlled opposition. They can play gold, eat fancy meals on our dime, and not have to do any of the hard work of governing.

Posted by: Iblis at November 09, 2022 09:48 AM (QJYfj)

784 Why the yammering about Trump and 2024?

Breathe deep and let 2022 sink in.

Posted by: Ziba at November 09, 2022 09:48 AM (4h9M3)

785 So here's the apparent problem with Trumpism without Trump. The Trump coalition is not stable. Not all of the voters that Trump brings in become R voters. The Rs need to put together a coherent platform that appeals to the working class (and wouldn't therefore be reliant on personal trust in Trump).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 09, 2022 09:41 AM (eYoxG)

This. It may be impossible ever again to catch lightning in a bottle, but the coalition Trump assembled is the only way to win. Enough people are OK enough with how things now are that it takes a coalition like 2016 even to have a chance. As it stands right now, Trump is the only person who can assemble that coalition. Someone else may be able to pull it off but I don't see who can.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 09, 2022 09:49 AM (kJLpK)

786 777 Off year election with a terrible economy, record inflation, highest crime since 82', disastrous social changes, fresh off a theft of liberty using COVID as a tool, plus who knows what else, and the national GOP can't pull off a decisive victory. Posted by: Marcus T
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People need to be honest with themselves is what needs to change. For team Red, there is an image problem that may not be fixable but they need to try and that requires popular enthusiasm for what they propose and deliberately building that support over time for those changes.

Team Blue has its own issues and the coalition falls apart when MORE is simply no longer possible. Money is what binds the disparate parts together and money is going to be getting a bit scarce through inflation and economic slowdown. Government running the printing presses has a natural end point and loss of reserve currency status means no floating debt to the rest of the world. Our imports will be cut massively to match our exports

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:49 AM (CXr4y)

787 "It won't be but I am sure a lot of passengers on the Titanic were simply denying what was happening until they were in the water. They simply moved to higher points of the ship until that was no longer possible.
Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:43 AM (CXr4y)"

Agree completely my friend. I think here in NY, in PA, MI and IL, they are about to find that out. Notwithstanding the severe economic times we will be facing in the next 12-18 months, and the fact that in places like this state the governments fiscal situation is going to get much worse (and the voters will be the saps,again) their pro crime policies and fealty to liberal politics will not only keep the deadly status quo and force further flight to the South, it will be ruinous to the communities who can least afford it. That serves no one. Irrespective of politics those are ultimately my brothers, sisters and our collective future dying in the streets, being failed by the education system and being launched into life long poverty. It is unforgivable. But they will learn this the hard way.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2022 09:49 AM (eacmp)

788 I wrote this in Pixy's thread:

1. There are more of them than there are of us. It’s just a fact. You don’t get an electorate that says the country is headed in the "wrong direction" by upwards of 75% and then votes to keep the same people in charge unless the party in charge has reliably entrenched voters that simply can’t be persuaded. All this talk about Dems cheating... I’m not discounting it, but that huge of a disparity between "wrong track" and these results can’t be explained just by ballot stuffing. There are more of them than there are of us now, and expecting them not to turn out is not a strategy. This is not a "center-right" country and it hasn’t been for over a decade, possibly two.

2. Trump is done. Look, I voted for him, I’ve even fantasized about him coming back in 2024 and getting revenge… but if his endorsements can’t win handily with concerns about the economy and crime so heavily in their favor, then he sure as hell isn’t getting a comeback himself. I’ve been on the fence between him and DeSantis in '24 but these results seal the deal for DeSantis in my mind. Assuming DeSantis even runs.

Posted by: Caiwyn at November 09, 2022 09:50 AM (+dHQK)

789 3. Pennsylvania is a blue state and we shouldn't be surprised. It has ALWAYS been the Republican white whale. Trump winning PA narrowly in 2016 was stunning, but it should be obvious now that it was a fluke. Any Republican presidential candidate needs to forge a path to victory without it. If PA votes for a brain-dead career politician over an erudite, well-spoken candidate who gets all the issues right, simply because of party affiliation (and the whether he says "crudités" or "veggie trays" then we don’t have a chance in PA.

4. Abortion was the top issue for Democrats in exit polling. The Dobbs decision did have an impact. The pro-life movement finally won the big court battle, but all that means is that the ballot box is where that war will be waged from now on, and blanket criminalization of abortion does. not. sell. New York and California will never see any limits on abortion. Total bans in states like Texas will remain for now, but they could easily turn into an albatross and cause us to lose races we should otherwise win. Time will tell, but national candidates would be wise to keep far, far away from any attempt to federalize the issue.

Posted by: Caiwyn at November 09, 2022 09:50 AM (+dHQK)

790 777 Off year election with a terrible economy, record inflation, highest crime since 82', disastrous social changes, fresh off a theft of liberty using COVID as a tool, plus who knows what else, and the national GOP can't pull off a decisive victory.

The conditions don't get any better than that. Anyone excusing this as some type of anomaly isn't being honest. In order to win in a meaningful way things need to change.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2022 09:43 AM (eacmp)

Agreed. McConnell and McCarthy also sat on a non-existent lead. They need to go.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 09, 2022 09:51 AM (kJLpK)

791 P.S. - if I was DeSantis, I wouldn't run. Two young kids, a wife who just had a big cancer scare... that's an awful lot to bring into a nasty fight against an entrenched incumbent with the sort of built-in electoral support we saw last night. I'd keep my powder dry for '28.

But if he runs, I'll absolutely vote for him.

Posted by: Caiwyn at November 09, 2022 09:51 AM (+dHQK)

792 So what happened with all those "polls" showing a "massive shift" from +10 D to +15 R for women right before the election that people were going crazy over, assuming that they predicted a "red tsunami"?

I really hope this is the end of people making predictions based on "polls". They are used for nothing other than psyops and messaging. In this case, it seems they were pushed to make conservative voters complacent, thinking this election was in the bag. And it worked.

After 2020, absolutely no one should have been predicting "red wave" or "red tsunami" or anything of the sort. The default always should have been that the Deep State is going to go full bore on rigging and stealing elections from here on out. 2020 was just the first of many. People should have learned that in 2020. I hope after these 2022 elections, the lesson is finally sinking in and learned.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 09:51 AM (Do5/p)

793
2. Trump is done. Look, I voted for him, I’ve even fantasized about him coming back in 2024 and getting revenge… but if his endorsements can’t win handily with concerns about the economy and crime so heavily in their favor, then he sure as hell isn’t getting a comeback himself. I’ve been on the fence between him and DeSantis in '24 but these results seal the deal for DeSantis in my mind. Assuming DeSantis even runs.
Posted by: Caiwyn at November 09, 2022 09:50 AM (+dHQK)

Apply this this thesis to Obama. Obama endorsements are worthless, he as a candidate was not.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 09, 2022 09:51 AM (eYoxG)

794 Yes, we did good down ticket on some local races. I've met Lawler, and it will be good after all these years to have someone who actually represents us.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2022 09:52 AM (eacmp)

795 What I'm seeing on Decision Desk HQ is that:

1) 49 R in the Senate so far, undoubtedly plus one for AK, R ahead in NV so far, and there's no reason to believe Walker can't win a runoff in GA.

So it looks like a really good chance of a Republican Senate.

2) 200 R in the house so far, with Dems at 180. 218 needed. Sarah Palin likely to add one for AK, and there are other races that really seem like they should have been called R.

So it looks like it will be a Republican House.

Not as big a wave, perhaps, as expected, but it still looks good for a Republican Congress, and that's a Big Deal.

3) NOT on the Decision Desk is the fact that election fraud has been made even more obvious. Also, we don't know what the white hats may have up their sleeves in that regard.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 09, 2022 09:52 AM (hOOi9)

796 792 I agree.

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 09:53 AM (Zzbjj)

797 781 I think the Dem voters are so brainwashed agaisnt Trump and MAGA that they voted the way they did to get rid of him and us.
Posted by: Floridachick
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The Dems are a coalition. It is the college educated pseudo elites that hate Trump and his deplorables. BTW, voters with those characteristics are also the ones that were the loudest about Covid lockdowns and now abortion. The FSA don't care as long as they get paid and many of their 'votes' are either harvested or forged in their name.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:53 AM (CXr4y)

798 Its interesting how in these states with Republican legislatures, and Dem governors, that they claim that they can't do anything to get reforms because the Gov will veto them, as Wolf did in PA.
But why aren't they playing hard ball? The first bill they send should be a comprehensive election reform bill, and refuse to send anything else until its signed. Let everything grind to a halt until they get their reforms. But they don't do it. They don't fight at all. They just roll over. Its pathetic.

Posted by: Iblis at November 09, 2022 09:53 AM (QJYfj)

799 795. There are no white hats.

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 09:54 AM (Zzbjj)

800 "Agreed. McConnell and McCarthy also sat on a non-existent lead. They need to go.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 09, 2022 09:51 AM (kJLpK)"

Both need to go. They are relics of the past. McCarthy has been trying, but he's just not up to the job. None of it seems to come natural to him and the fact he thought people would buy in with a bunch of platitudes and no specifics on what would be done legislatively is a pathetic joke and shows he has terrible instincts and clouded judgment.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2022 09:54 AM (eacmp)

801 788 and you're probably going to write it in every other thread.

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 09:55 AM (Zzbjj)

802 Agree completely my friend. I think here in NY, in PA, MI and IL, they are about to find that out. Notwithstanding the severe economic times we will be facing in the next 12-18 months, and the fact that in places like this state the governments fiscal situation is going to get much worse (and the voters will be the saps,again) their pro crime policies and fealty to liberal politics will not only keep the deadly status quo and force further flight to the South, it will be ruinous to the communities who can least afford it. That serves no one. Irrespective of politics those are ultimately my brothers, sisters and our collective future dying in the streets, being failed by the education system and being launched into life long poverty. It is unforgivable. But they will learn this the hard way.
Posted by: Marcus T
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Well said.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:56 AM (CXr4y)

803 Abortions R Us! the winning ticket.

Posted by: Ziba at November 09, 2022 09:56 AM (4h9M3)

804 800 platitudes worked well in the days of failure theater. Those two want a revival of that show.

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 09:57 AM (Zzbjj)

805 If the GOP had actually ran a message campaign, it might have given us a natural experiment but essentially I think people deep down know something is badly wrong, drastic changes need to be made, but instead hold their tribal identities even tighter as a way of reassuring themselves it will be all right.

It won't be but I am sure a lot of passengers on the Titanic were simply denying what was happening until they were in the water. They simply moved to higher points of the ship until that was no longer possible.
Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 09:43 AM (CXr4y)

We have to accept the brainwashing is so pervasive that even the prospect of drowining doens't matter much. A substantial portion of the electorate won't even move the chair to higher ground.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 09, 2022 09:57 AM (kJLpK)

806 So I guess when the polls show 78% of the voters think that we are on the wrong track a significant fraction of them mean that we aren't communist enough.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 09, 2022 09:58 AM (yQpMk)

807 Now a larger number of national races are not decided on election day. First world countries like France and Canada use paper ballots and decide on election day.

Corrupt countries like ours are all about the cheat.

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 09, 2022 09:59 AM (a2yyF)

808 It took 75 years for the Soviet Union to collapse. And the Chi-Coms are now nearing that mark. Once you go red - and I mean commie - you don't go back. Look at California.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2022 09:20 AM (x0n13)

Agreed, JJ. As long as the cubicle is heated enough to avoid freezing, and there are sufficient bugs to eat, people will put up with totalitarianism.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 09, 2022 09:59 AM (kJLpK)

809 Both need to go. They are relics of the past. McCarthy has been trying, but he's just not up to the job. None of it seems to come natural to him and the fact he thought people would buy in with a bunch of platitudes and no specifics on what would be done legislatively is a pathetic joke and shows he has terrible instincts and clouded judgment.
Posted by: Marcus T
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I think mediocre leaders are the result of mediocre members selecting them. What congress critter with any clout can you name on the GOP side as actually effective as a leader? Closest I see is Ron Johnson and he barely won. Cruz is a disappointment, all bark, no bite and Paul is a one man band with no one following.

The House is even more depressing. Boebert and MTG are about the only shining stars there. The good guys like Nunes, Gohmert, etc. left.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 10:00 AM (CXr4y)

810 769. They banked their cheat votes before election day, and added them throughout the day. They knew a big blowout after the pills closed looked bad, so they incrementalized it. Sad but smart. And here we are saying our candidates were shit...they weren't.

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 10:01 AM (Zzbjj)

811 799 The white hats are becoming less and less secretive about their existence all the time - especially in the last few weeks.

Ask yourself why Zeldin hasn't conceded in NY? Is he just being stubborn? That seems unlikely. Seems more likely that he knows something we don't know.

Same goes for Kari Lake, who still seems to be talking like somebody who won.

Even the Witmer opponent has not conceded (which has me scrathing my head, actually). Does SHE know something?

Posted by: Optimizer at November 09, 2022 10:02 AM (hOOi9)

812 809 and isn't Boebert gone?

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 10:02 AM (Zzbjj)

813 We have to accept the brainwashing is so pervasive that even the prospect of drowining doens't matter much. A substantial portion of the electorate won't even move the chair to higher ground.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat
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The West coast and the post industrial NE/Midwest will go under water first. Prediction--massive fentanyl deaths, widespread unemployment, crime skyrocketing, and governments raising taxes and regulations to cook what is left of the golden goose meal.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 10:03 AM (CXr4y)

814 There are no white hats.
Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 09:54 AM (Zzbjj)
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#conservatism has a serious problem when grown-ass adults have a belief that agents of the State are going to come rescue them from agents of the State.

This is the projection of My daddy loved me, and Uncle Sugar is like my daddy, and I want him to love me, too.

Government checks create dependence on the government. Dependence creates loyalty.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 09, 2022 10:03 AM (q5EoS)

815 807. I am flying the banana flag again today

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 10:03 AM (Zzbjj)

816 813 Video games and fentanyl. WEF wins

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 10:05 AM (Zzbjj)

817 812 809 and isn't Boebert gone?
Posted by: CN
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Not apparently from RCP. She is behind about 3400 votes right now but mail in ballots. So dunno.

Perfect example of creepdom as her opponent was involved in a sordid sex scandal involving a storage unit.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 10:05 AM (CXr4y)

818 I am flying the banana flag again today
Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 10:03 AM (Zzbjj)
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Been flying my state flag from my house since January 7, 2021.

I don't know if an American flag will ever go back up and if it does what it might look like after the fighting ends.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 09, 2022 10:06 AM (q5EoS)

819 807 Decision Desk HQ has called 380 House races, which leaves 55 UNCALLED. Seems kind of outrageous.

It seems to me that an unusually high number of those uncalled races are in NY, the same place Zeldin is not conceding. Sounds to me like some serious election fraud is going on there, in particular.

People are saying all is lost because people are still voting for Dems despite how much they are hurting the country, but it's pretty obvious that people are NOT really voting for these Dems. It's fraud.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 09, 2022 10:06 AM (hOOi9)

820 Government checks create dependence on the government. Dependence creates loyalty.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus
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It creates resentment too. Employees dependent on a paycheck from their employer often resent that very same employer and themselves because deep down they know that they are useless wankers by and large.

Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 10:07 AM (CXr4y)

821 Next time anyone says 'red wave' I'm shooting them in the face with a car.

Posted by: Corona at November 09, 2022 10:07 AM (nakGR)

822 Violence it shall be, now and forever more. Start the purge with the liberal progressive communist territories. All who come to their defense are traitors. Expendable.

Posted by: Raynbo Hyppo at November 09, 2022 10:07 AM (U3NYt)

823 817. Donks have it down pat now. 2016 was an important lesson: plan early.

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 10:08 AM (Zzbjj)

824 NE/Midwest will go under water first. Prediction--massive fentanyl deaths, widespread unemployment, crime skyrocketing, and governments raising taxes and regulations to cook what is left of the golden goose meal.
Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 10:03 AM (CXr4y)
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OH, PA, WI, MI, MN, IN, IL are all lost. Maybe there are some good folks in the rural areas...maybe. But the culture is very East Coast, in my experience.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 09, 2022 10:09 AM (q5EoS)

825 I hope the donks take lots of vaxes.

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 10:11 AM (Zzbjj)

826 792 So what happened with all those "polls" showing a "massive shift" from +10 D to +15 R for women right before the election that people were going crazy over, assuming that they predicted a "red tsunami"?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2022 09:51 AM (Do5/p)
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The polls were basically correct. The polls put the Senate as a coin-flip, and we lost the coin flip. Women did come back to the GOP. If they hadn't, we would have gotten our asses handed to us. As it stands, it looks like we have the House.

People were predicting a red wave because they assumed that GOP momentum in the polls would continue through election day. It didn't. It stalled a week ago, right around 50%.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 09, 2022 10:12 AM (4QgJj)

827 824. Hunger and freezing still = pitchforks and those things in the canoe

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 10:13 AM (Zzbjj)

828 Somebody who says there are no white hats explain to me why the military didn't send a plane to pick up Biden at his "inauguration", and the nuclear football took off for Mara Largo that day, instead of being handed over as the swearing in took place. Or why Biden's first trip on "Air Force One" was clearly not aboard a 747, which means that it wasn't actually the Presidential aircraft. There have been plenty of signs the whole time that something is going on behind the scenes.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 09, 2022 10:13 AM (hOOi9)

829 https://tinyurl.com/3tbrszpz

A candidate for "The Morning After" art thread.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 09, 2022 10:14 AM (x61Im)

830 828. That was incoherent

Posted by: CN at November 09, 2022 10:15 AM (Zzbjj)

831 The West coast and the post industrial NE/Midwest will go under water first. Prediction--massive fentanyl deaths, widespread unemployment, crime skyrocketing, and governments raising taxes and regulations to cook what is left of the golden goose meal.
Posted by: whig at November 09, 2022 10:03 AM (CXr4y)

The regions where this is not the case--largely the South and lower Midwest--are staring at a state of constant siege. Important elections now are governors and local leaders.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 09, 2022 10:15 AM (kJLpK)

832 JJ, I have great respect for you, putting out a strong essay under such a black cloud. Many Thanks.
Posted by: Wenda at November 09, 2022 08:04 AM (5KpDr)

I second the emotion. Thank you for all you do. At least you have a dental plan.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at November 09, 2022 10:19 AM (Zvtjl)

833 What I'm seeing on Decision Desk HQ is that

Who the fuck would give that gigantic asswipe and his shitty garbage site even a minute's time?

Fuck CAC.

Posted by: spindrift at November 09, 2022 10:31 AM (h5TKJ)

834 You know whose ass Ace should kiss? Allahpundit's ass.

That's who.

AP has been pointing out what a disastrous heap of garbage this current, Trump iteration of the GOP has been and Ace has been wetting his pants about it because he doesn't have the balls to tell the truth himself. All Ace can do is massage the shoulders of the incels who are regulars here and tell them how fucking awesome they are.

AP was right. GOP better adjust or they will be losing a lot more elections.

Posted by: Sarah Palin at November 09, 2022 10:43 AM (V43mi)

835 Posted by: Sarah Palin at November 09, 2022 10:43 AM (V43mi)

(Fuck self + Steak knife + Neck)*10

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 09, 2022 10:45 AM (53oGX)

836 Well, that night sucked.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at November 09, 2022 10:53 AM (VOHuN)

837 Well that didn't take long!

Bonchie over at RedState.com is blaming DONALD TRUMP for last night's bad showing. Should we be surprised?

No.

RedState.com is virulently anti-Trump and instead of placing the blame on the true culprits of MASSIVE VOTE FRAUD and the GOPe, Bonchie insits on blaming Trump.

I would think that's unbelievable until I consider the source.

FUCK REDSTATE!!!

Posted by: Tracy at November 09, 2022 11:08 AM (x58Cx)

838 We are doomed. There is no way around this. This should have been the biggest repudiation of the current federal government since the Civil War, and we may even lose the senate in a Kemp/Raffensberger-produced runoff, which will most likely result in Walker's loss.

Posted by: Jonah Kyle at November 09, 2022 11:21 AM (R4j1g)

839 837 Bonchie over at RedState.com is blaming DONALD TRUMP for last night's bad showing. Should we be surprised?

No.

RedState.com is virulently anti-Trump and instead of placing the blame on the true culprits of MASSIVE VOTE FRAUD and the GOPe, Bonchie insits on blaming Trump.
Posted by: Tracy at November 09, 2022 11:08 AM (x58Cx)

Mike Miller is the virulent anti-Trumper over at RedState, not Bonchie. Bonchie is just telling it like it is. Trump's endorsements underperformed.

Look, I'm not discounting vote fraud, but like I said before, it's not enough to explain Democrats' support level right now. Even if fraud was the deciding factor in places like Arizona or Pennsylvania, you can't tell me it explains how Tiffany Smiley significantly underperformed compared to the polls. Yes, it's Washington, but that's my point -- Dems don't need to stuff ballot boxes in Washington. They've been focused on states where they actually need it to win.

Republicans underperformed *everywhere* and voter fraud isn't enough to explain it. Trump's unlikeability was a factor. I voted for him, I'd love to see him make a comeback, but his personal likeability is underwater.

Posted by: Caiwyn at November 09, 2022 11:33 AM (+dHQK)

840 This is the last comment I'll post here.

This country is over. Either elections are easily stealable, half the country are either evil enough to prioritize abortion over food prices or irredeemably stupid, or we finally just reached critical mass of soft men from good times.

Either way I'm 40 and I'm not about to spend any time tryin to revitalize a GOP that works against itself in the vague hope it figures things out. I'm fortunate to live in a red state so I can keep my head down, stock up, and protect mine when the shit hits the fan but I'm not about to waste any more energy or psychological wellbeing on the rest of these idiots.

"A republic, if you can keep it"

Narrator: they could not keep it.

Posted by: RJ at November 09, 2022 11:35 AM (kLlSa)

841 "DeSantis has been handsomely rewarded by the Sunshine State, showing that voters will enthusiastically reward the potent—though rare—combination of principle, courage, and competence."

Correct, and he spent the first two years of his admin cleaning out voter rolls and strengthening voting laws. Contrast that with his equal - Kari Lake - and how the Arizona republican party(REPUBLICAN DOUG DUCEY) allowed her opponent to 'oversee' elections rather than recuse herself. There is no way Kari Lake loses without election rigging.

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