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The Intercept: Government -- the FBI, In Particular -- Is Pressuring Social Media Platforms to Push Official US Propaganda on Origins of Covid and Even the Afghanistan Withdrawal, and Censor Anything that Contradicts It

After a pressure session, one Microsoft executive texted the Department of Homeland Security: "Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov't."

Fired Twitter lawyer Vijaya Gadde met monthly with the DHS to discuss how she could better act as a government censor.

Lee Fang at the Intercept.

THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY is quietly broadening its efforts to curb speech it considers dangerous, an investigation by The Intercept has found. Years of internal DHS memos, emails, and documents -- obtained via leaks and an ongoing lawsuit, as well as public documents -- illustrate an expansive effort by the agency to influence tech platforms.


...

Behind closed doors, and through pressure on private platforms, the U.S. government has used its power to try to shape online discourse. According to meeting minutes and other records appended to a lawsuit filed by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, a Republican who is also running for Senate, discussions have ranged from the scale and scope of government intervention in online discourse to the mechanics of streamlining takedown requests for false or intentionally misleading information.


Key Takeaways

Though DHS shuttered its controversial Disinformation Governance Board, a strategic document reveals the underlying work is ongoing.

DHS plans to target inaccurate information on "the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic and the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines, racial justice, U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the nature of U.S. support to Ukraine."

Facebook created a special portal for DHS and government partners to report disinformation directly.

"Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov't. It's really interesting how hesitant they remain," Microsoft executive Matt Masterson, a former DHS official, texted Jen Easterly, a DHS director, in February.

In a March meeting, Laura Dehmlow, an FBI official, warned that the threat of subversive information on social media could undermine support for the U.S. government.

We can't have people losing faith in the government. When the government is acting incompetently and corruptly is when it is most crucial that people maintain faith in their government.

Otherwise they might start demanding fundamental change!


Dehmlow, according to notes of the discussion attended by senior executives from Twitter and JPMorgan Chase, stressed that "we need a media infrastructure that is held accountable."

The government needs to hold the media accountable.

This is fine.

And I suppose President Trump in his second term will also have this power, right?

This woman must be fired. Half of the FBI must be fired, and the CIA, NSA, and DOJ too.

...

There is also a formalized process for government officials to directly flag content on Facebook or Instagram and request that it be throttled or suppressed through a special Facebook portal that requires a government or law enforcement email to use. At the time of writing, the "content request system" at facebook.com/xtakedowns/login is still live. DHS and Meta, the parent company of Facebook, did not respond to a request for comment. The FBI declined to comment.

There, that's it. Game over.

Meanwhile, Conservative, Inc., almost all on the payroll either directly or indirectly of Monster Tech, continues defending them or remaining stone-silent about this massive government-corporate conspiracy to end the First Amendment.

They've got bean-shaped pools with infinity edges to put in their backyards. They're not here to fight for anyone's constitutional rights.

...

DHS's mission to fight disinformation, stemming from concerns around Russian influence in the 2016 presidential election, began taking shape during the 2020 election and over efforts to shape discussions around vaccine policy during the coronavirus pandemic. Documents collected by The Intercept from a variety of sources, including current officials and publicly available reports, reveal the evolution of more active measures by DHS.

According to a draft copy of DHS's Quadrennial Homeland Security Review, DHS's capstone report outlining the department's strategy and priorities in the coming years, the department plans to target "inaccurate information" on a wide range of topics, including "the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic and the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines, racial justice, U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the nature of U.S. support to Ukraine."

"The challenge is particularly acute in marginalized communities," the report states, "which are often the targets of false or misleading information, such as false information on voting procedures targeting people of color."

The inclusion of the 2021 U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan is particularly noteworthy, given that House Republicans, should they take the majority in the midterms, have vowed to investigate. "This makes Benghazi look like a much smaller issue," said Rep. Mike Johnson, R-La., a member of the Armed Services Committee, adding that finding answers "will be a top priority."

How disinformation is defined by the government has not been clearly articulated, and the inherently subjective nature of what constitutes disinformation provides a broad opening for DHS officials to make politically motivated determinations about what constitutes dangerous speech.

Understatement of the century.


The inherently subjective nature of what constitutes disinformation provides a broad opening for DHS officials to make politically motivated determinations about what constitutes dangerous speech.

DHS justifies these goals -- which have expanded far beyond its original purview on foreign threats to encompass disinformation originating domestically -- by claiming that terrorist threats can be "exacerbated by misinformation and disinformation spread online." But the laudable goal of protecting Americans from danger has often been used to conceal political maneuvering. In 2004, for instance, DHS officials faced pressure from the George W. Bush administration to heighten the national threat level for terrorism, in a bid to influence voters prior to the election, according to former DHS Secretary Tom Ridge. U.S. officials have routinely lied about an array of issues, from the causes of its wars in Vietnam and Iraq to their more recent obfuscation around the role of the National Institutes of Health in funding the Wuhan Institute of Virology's coronavirus research.

Intercept gonna Intercept. They also include DeSantis' "Stop WOKE Act" as part of this government "censorship."

Chalk it up to the Mission: Impossible of convincing rabid lefties that government censorship is bad.

You can't convince them of that, because censorship is now a holy sacrament in the Church of Transnational Socialism.

Note that Greenwald quit the Intercept because... they were censoring him in the outfit he started because he was offering Non-State Approved reportage.


The extent to which the DHS initiatives affect Americans' daily social feeds is unclear. During the 2020 election, the government flagged numerous posts as suspicious, many of which were then taken down, documents cited in the Missouri attorney general's lawsuit disclosed. And a 2021 report by the Election Integrity Partnership at Stanford University found that of nearly 4,800 flagged items, technology platforms took action on 35 percent -- either removing, labeling, or soft-blocking speech, meaning the users were only able to view content after bypassing a warning screen. The research was done "in consultation with CISA," the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.

Prior to the 2020 election, tech companies including Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Discord, Wikipedia, Microsoft, LinkedIn, and Verizon Media met on a monthly basis with the FBI, CISA, and other government representatives. According to NBC News, the meetings were part of an initiative, still ongoing, between the private sector and government to discuss how firms would handle misinformation during the election.

Note the CISA began in 2018 as a small group monitoring foreign disinformation.

Biden has transformed it into the censorship coordinating clearinghouse of the US, repressing the speech of US citizens.

...

Under President Joe Biden, the shifting focus on disinformation has continued. In January 2021, CISA replaced the Countering Foreign Influence Task force with the "Misinformation, Disinformation and Malinformation" team, which was created "to promote more flexibility to focus on general MDM." By now, the scope of the effort had expanded beyond disinformation produced by foreign governments to include domestic versions. The MDM team, according to one CISA official quoted in the IG report, "counters all types of disinformation, to be responsive to current events."


...

Jen Easterly, Biden's appointed director of CISA, swiftly made it clear that she would continue to shift resources in the agency to combat the spread of dangerous forms of information on social media.


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CISA has defended its burgeoning social media monitoring authorities, stating that "once CISA notified a social media platform of disinformation, the social media platform could independently decide whether to remove or modify the post." But, as documents revealed by the Missouri lawsuit show, CISA's goal is to make platforms more responsive to their suggestions.

In late February, Easterly texted with Matthew Masterson, a representative at Microsoft who formerly worked at CISA, that she is "trying to get us in a place where Fed can work with platforms to better understand mis/dis trends so relevant agencies can try to prebunk/debunk as useful."


Here's that Zero Hedge article on the growing transnational socialist global consortium to eradicate speech the transnational socialist globalists find "dangerous." I haven't read it yet, but Greenwald links it, so it's probably worth reading. (I'd planned to read it and excerpt it but this post is late as it is!)

Worth repeating: Every censorship regime in history has insisted it's not censoring speech, it's just protecting you from bad speech.

Lefties -- especially reporters -- are so un-educated they believe this is the first time in history that Perfect Excuse for Censorship has been offered! They think this is Gold! Finally, censorship is being done for the right and proper reasons!

Yes, that's what every censorship regime says. The Nazis said so too.

Greenwald again:

greenwaldcesorship1.jpg

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Every tyrant in history has said that his enemies were so subversive and dangerous that it was necessary to protect the public from their poisonous words by censoring them.

Stupid lefties, who collected degrees at college and never once opened a book, really think they're the first tyrants in history to ever face A Conspiracy So Vast filled with Enemies So Vile.

But don't you see? Our enemies really are so existentially threatening we have to reduce them to a state of peonage and serfdom! It's the only way they can be made to understand!

Don't you see -- We're the good guys! We're protecting you from Them!


Posted by: Ace at 01:26 PM




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1 it's a grey first!

SPONGE

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 31, 2022 01:26 PM (Mkvkw)

2 nailed it.

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 31, 2022 01:26 PM (Mkvkw)

3 1st!

Posted by: GF at October 31, 2022 01:26 PM (5yd1U)

4 going for it

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 31, 2022 01:26 PM (Mkvkw)

5 Jordan Peterson let out of Twitter Jail...

/pops popcorn

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 31, 2022 01:27 PM (oHd/0)

6 corgis called

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 31, 2022 01:27 PM (Mkvkw)

7 Totes okay, as Obama repealed the rule prohibiting gov't propaganda.

Oh, and gray!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 31, 2022 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

8 YOU VILL THINK ZEE RIGHT THOTZ!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 31, 2022 01:27 PM (wtvvX)

9 They are murdering people by fake Vax

Posted by: Skip's phonep at October 31, 2022 01:28 PM (r1yEd)

10 We didn't get a 'Harrumph' outta that guy...

Posted by: FBI at October 31, 2022 01:28 PM (FtySS)

11 Don't fence us in!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 31, 2022 01:28 PM (yikp0)

12 You can always count on the government to give you the straight poop give it to you straight up the poop chute.

Posted by: huerfano, stochastic commenter at October 31, 2022 01:28 PM (dTFZY)

13 The new gray theme is pretty spooky, ace.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 31, 2022 01:28 PM (wtvvX)

14 Bold move.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 31, 2022 01:28 PM (ynpvh)

15 Romeo 23 - out of champagne?

Posted by: Skip's phonep at October 31, 2022 01:28 PM (r1yEd)

16 Democracy Dies in Grey Boxes.

Posted by: XTC at October 31, 2022 01:29 PM (UnA8+)

17 This is exactly why the 1st amendment was written. This very thing, because its as old as human nature.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 01:29 PM (Ivdso)

18 I like the gray.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 31, 2022 01:29 PM (VXO1T)

19 Nailed the Update Ace.

Nailed it.

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2022 01:29 PM (FtySS)

20 Between all the disinformation and datinformation, I don't believe anything the MSM says.

Posted by: f'nstein at October 31, 2022 01:29 PM (sn5EN)

21 andycanuck with the save!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 31, 2022 01:29 PM (wtvvX)

22 I actually kind of like the gray aesthetic, personally.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 01:29 PM (Ivdso)

23 In a March meeting, Laura Dehmlow, an FBI official, warned that the threat of subversive information on social media could undermine support for the U.S. government. "

1) No, the duplicity and subversion BY the US government undermines support for the US government.


Dehmlow, according to notes of the discussion attended by senior executives from Twitter and JPMorgan Chase, stressed that "we need a media infrastructure that is held accountable.

2) Elon Musk: On it!

Posted by: Archimedes at October 31, 2022 01:29 PM (eOEVl)

24 This is totally what people that didn't rig an election would do.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (Y5qcH)

25 8 YOU VILL THINK ZEE RIGHT THOTZ!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 31, 2022 01:27 PM (wtvvX)

Eh, not interested in Thoths.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (ynpvh)

26 In before Josef Goebbels!

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (Z32m1)

27 Just for laughs, how much of COVID stuff labeled "misinformation" turned out to be correct?

Posted by: steevy at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (yezA1)

28 Second Look by all you who said Eric Snowden was a TRAITOR when he started? (yeah, admittedly he joined the 'enemy' after we had declared him OUR enemy... but).

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (oHd/0)

29 Wow, Ace broke everything. Is banning himself again far behind?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (ZGrMX)

30 The FedGov and their willing partners can claim all they want that this is a voluntary collaboration, but to this simple guy, it seems they're working as government agents and this is a direct violation of the first amendment.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (eyxn4)

31 People need to swing for this.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (G/v5P)

32 (willowed)

>>> 629 Is anyone other than Gateway Pundit carrying the ICU family story? Because they don't exactly have a flawless record of breaking news.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 01:26 PM (Ivdso)

How can you say this after reading all the funny comments from Morons speculating about the Pelosis???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (llON8)

33 >>This is totally what people that didn't rig an election would do.


Unrigged, but Highly Fortified.

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (FtySS)

34 I actually kind of like the gray aesthetic, personally.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 01:29 PM (Ivdso)


I agree!

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (Z32m1)

35 Apropos of nothing, I see that Communist Da Silva is going to be Brazil's President again. We know that this will hurt Brazil's economy and society overall but, I think that the poor peasants that voted for him figure that they can't be hurt much more and at least some of them might benefit to some degree. Also, fuck the overlords.

The moral of the story, I guess, is not to treat your poor underclass like just so much dog shit you scraped off your shoe.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (yQpMk)

36 29 Wow, Ace broke everything. Is banning himself again far behind?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (ZGrMX)

Well, no wide margins...so perhaps not.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (ynpvh)

37 In brief via Twatter:
[The Intercept investigative reporter] Lee Fang @lhfang · 1h
FBI agent Laura Dehmlow was in communications w Facebook that led to the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story in 2020 over the false allegation that it was “disinfo.” This year, she met w/ Twitter/DHS to stress “we need a media infrastructure that is held accountable.”

Facebook and Twitter created special portals for the government to rapidly request takedowns of content. The portals, along with NGO partners used to censor a wide range of content, including obvious parody accounts and content disagreeing w gov pandemic policy.

The emails and documents show close collaboration b/w DHS & private sector. Twitter's Vijaya Gadde (fired by @elonmusk last week) met monthly with DHS to discuss censorship plans. Microsoft exec texted DHS: "Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov't"

How does DHS justify its evolving mission from countering foreign terror groups to policing domestic "disinfo" on social media? Leaked planning docs show the agency argues false information is a source of radicalization & violence.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (yikp0)

38 The most reliable indicator someone is a fraud: they label themselves a "disinformation specialist" or working for an "anti-disinformation group": as if this is some new, apolitical, specialized term of art rather than a politicized farce to make censorship appear scientific.

Or that they call themselves a journalist.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (eOEVl)

39 Vijaya? Does she make candles?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 31, 2022 01:31 PM (3jOB7)

40 >>> 14 Bold move.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 31, 2022 01:28 PM (ynpvh)

I would like to point out that it was *not* me this time.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 01:31 PM (llON8)

41 In a March meeting, Laura Dehmlow, an FBI official, warned that the threat of subversive information on social media could undermine support for the U.S. government

Why is it anyone's job to guarantee support for the US government?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 31, 2022 01:31 PM (ZGrMX)

42 >>Ace broke everything. Is banning himself again far behind?


The wheels all falling off the shelves.

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2022 01:31 PM (FtySS)

43 Reading the Constitution is subversive these days...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 31, 2022 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

44 Bold & Grey! That's a bold strategy! Let's see if anyone notices.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 31, 2022 01:31 PM (a3Q+t)

45 Not a coup.

Ok. Sure.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 31, 2022 01:31 PM (G/v5P)

46 Apropos of nothing, I see that Communist Da Silva is going to be Brazil's President again.

WEF stealin' elections all over the world now.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 31, 2022 01:32 PM (ZGrMX)

47 There is also a formalized process for government officials to directly flag content on Facebook or Instagram

Guess the Twitter staff saved them the trouble.

Posted by: Golfman at October 31, 2022 01:32 PM (n6t7H)

48 40 >>> 14 Bold move.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 31, 2022 01:28 PM (ynpvh)

I would like to point out that it was *not* me this time.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 01:31 PM (llON

Well, my comment was originally unbolded, but magically became bolded afterwards. Was...interesting.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 31, 2022 01:32 PM (ynpvh)

49 It's not just social media the govt uses to shape the narative, they have been using print and tv and movies to do the same thing my whole life.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 31, 2022 01:32 PM (L08P2)

50 Why is it anyone's job to guarantee support for the US government?
Posted by: Ian S. at October 31, 2022 01:31 PM (ZGrMX)

Covid? No, Ukraine! Or is it white supremists? Damn it, I know this one.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (Y5qcH)

51 In a March meeting, Laura Dehmlow, an FBI official, warned that the threat of subversive information on social media could undermine support for the U.S. government. "
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Maybe if there were fewer assholes in government actively involved in destroying the lives of Americans, there would be more support for government policies.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (YIVH2)

52 In a March meeting, Laura Dehmlow, an FBI official, warned that the threat of subversive information on social media could undermine support for the U.S. government

Why is it anyone's job to guarantee support for the US government?
Posted by: Ian S.

Because that job pays very, very well - that's why.

-- The 'elite' that try to rule us

Posted by: Tonypete at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (LsEU/)

53 >>> 35 Apropos of nothing, I see that Communist Da Silva is going to be Brazil's President again. We know that this will hurt Brazil's economy and society overall but, I think that the poor peasants that voted for him figure that they can't be hurt much more and at least some of them might benefit to some degree. Also, fuck the overlords.

The moral of the story, I guess, is not to treat your poor underclass like just so much dog shit you scraped off your shoe.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (yQpMk)

Given the topic of this post, are we sure that election wasn't also "fortified" by some of our three-letter agencies?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (llON8)

54 I'd just like to point out that those of us in the younger generation are perfectly okay with this.

Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (eOEVl)

55 #11 Ha, ha. My sock close-tags fixed the boldface but, alas, do nothing for the boxing!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (yikp0)

56 The FedGov and their willing partners can claim all they want that this is a voluntary collaboration, but to this simple guy, it seems they're working as government agents and this is a direct violation of the first amendment.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (eyxn4)


Aren't there several outstanding Federal lawsuits alleging this very thing?

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (Z32m1)

57 46 Apropos of nothing, I see that Communist Da Silva is going to be Brazil's President again.

WEF stealin' elections all over the world now.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 31, 2022 01:32 PM (ZGrMX)

Someone wants moar Hugo Chavez in South America...
funny enough, those regions where the Venezuelans managed to escape voted heavily for the other guy; I wonder why...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (ynpvh)

58 Well, I guess it's no mystery who the Nazis in America are any longer.

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (krQz2)

59 I believe a guy named Benito had a name for this sort of corporate, public-private rulership.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by the Holy Ghost at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (YJwUM)

60 >>>Fired Twitter lawyer Vijaya Gadde met monthly with the DHS to discuss how she could better act as a government censor.

Interesting timeline with that hamfisted attempt at creating a government appointed misinformation she-czar in April 2022. My guess is she was part of that effort, and the effort undoubtedly continues, but without the ugly public face of Nina Jankowicz.


DHS creates 'disinformation governance board,' appoints leader who peddled disinformation about Hunter Biden laptop, Trump dossier

The Blaze.

https://tinyurl.com/5cheertp

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 01:34 PM (yHsuS)

61 Busy little bees they have been over the decades.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 31, 2022 01:34 PM (G/v5P)

62 The easiest solution is to stop using social media.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 31, 2022 01:34 PM (oyfLT)

63 I would like to point out that it was *not* me this time.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 01:31 PM


This failure is likely to be noted on your annual performance appraisal.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 31, 2022 01:34 PM (a3Q+t)

64 >>> 54 I'd just like to point out that those of us in the younger generation are perfectly okay with this.
Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (eOEVl)

Oh, they'll figure it out... when it's too late for them...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 01:34 PM (llON8)

65 Someone wants moar Hugo Chavez in South America...
funny enough, those regions where the Venezuelans managed to escape voted heavily for the other guy; I wonder why...


Democrats are stupid. It's why they're Democrats.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (ZGrMX)

66 I do not understand throw knowing something we've known for years me means game over for the thing. Have we not tired of this game? Oh so. Now the normies know the thing we know? Like they are reading The Intercept. They've been hearing for years that the thing we knew was true wasn't true. One story is going to change those years of conditioning?

I remember when Sam Donaldson said that if the Monica Lewinsky story were proven true that Clinton's presidency was over. We all knew it was true, but it wasn't PROVEN true. Until later. After we had all been told it wasn't true.

Clinton left office with the highest approval ever, they told us.

Posted by: blaster at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (pwExq)

67 Eh, not interested in Thoths.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (ynpvh)

What...you don't like my tits???

https://www.instagram.com/ itsgracecharis/

Posted by: A Pillow In Texas at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (BgMrQ)

68 if Republicans would stop inciting violence crime might go down

— Jennifer "Pro-privacy" Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) October 30, 2022

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (UuD2k)

69 Reading the Constitution is subversive these days...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 31, 2022 01:31 PM (ynpvh)
---
The Constitution is misinformation these days.

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (krQz2)

70 I guess subversion now is in the eye of the beholder.

Like Biden, et. al. blaming the violent/divisive rhetoric on mega monsters that ended up causing the hammering of Paul Pelosi. Never mind the daily violent rhetoric used by the left and their political and media toadies, it is only when mouth breathing troglodytes use it, i.e., Trump supporters say anything against this regime it is now considered violence!

Posted by: Cheri at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (oiNtH)

71 The dead twitter thread (which I will note was posted at 12:00PM on the dot, looks to have been lit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 31, 2022 01:36 PM (CwQXo)

72 How knowing.

Not throw knowing.

Thanks auto cucumber.

Posted by: blaster at October 31, 2022 01:36 PM (pwExq)

73 >>The easiest solution is to stop using social media.


Easier still to never have started.

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2022 01:36 PM (FtySS)

74 "Bash the Fash", right, Aunt Tifa? Isn't that how it goes? That's what all good people are supposed to do, right?

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by the Holy Ghost at October 31, 2022 01:36 PM (YJwUM)

75 /off deadly pillow sock

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 31, 2022 01:36 PM (BgMrQ)

76 Emperor for Life Xi Jinping looks on and smiles.

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 01:36 PM (Z32m1)

77 I'd just like to point out that those of us in the younger generation are perfectly okay with this.
Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (eOEVl)


Yes, greetings fellow kids.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 31, 2022 01:36 PM (AiZBA)

78 I hate to be a downer but do you know what we're going to get after we win control of the Senate and Congress?
We're going to get lectures from Mitch, Kevin and 90% of our elected officials about how we're dangerous for wanting to dismantle the deep state.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 31, 2022 01:36 PM (qH6FZ)

79 The Constitution is misinformation these days.
Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (krQz2)

They need to settle on something. Mis or dis? I want to be very fucking clear on what I get shot in the head for.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 31, 2022 01:36 PM (CwQXo)

80 The easiest solution is to stop using social media.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

For many, it's the cheapest addition they have going. Big Govt knows this.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 31, 2022 01:36 PM (LsEU/)

81 >>> 68 if Republicans would stop inciting violence crime might go down

- Jennifer "Pro-privacy" Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) October 30, 2022
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (UuD2k)

Can we stop asking if we've reached "peak stupid" now?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 01:37 PM (llON8)

82 I'm guessing only Congress can reign in the scope of these out of control agencies? In other words, nothing will be done as they expand to reaches far beyond their original mission. Reaches being, of course, going after the American public.

Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 01:37 PM (sVtYq)

83 The peasants are revolting!

Posted by: m at October 31, 2022 01:37 PM (0ixKl)

84 Can we stop asking if we've reached "peak stupid" now?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 01:37 PM (llON



It's stupids, all the way down.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 31, 2022 01:37 PM (yQpMk)

85 We don't even want suppression on the barrels of our weapons. The noise needs to terrify the enemy before they die.

Posted by: Roy at October 31, 2022 01:38 PM (Ti+Tv)

86 They need to settle on something. Mis or dis? I want to be very fucking clear on what I get shot in the head for.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Might just be for "mal". True but wrong to say.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by the Holy Ghost at October 31, 2022 01:38 PM (YJwUM)

87 Title 18 USC 242. Taking away a Civil Right (speech) under cover of Law.

If BODILY INJURY results (Bad Vax Response) it becomes a felony.

Can a State AG sue under Title 18 242? I know 'some' things a State can enforce.... anyone know?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 31, 2022 01:38 PM (oHd/0)

88 After a pressure session, one Microsoft executive texted the Department of Homeland Security: "Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov't."
++++
An implication being, "like we did."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 31, 2022 01:38 PM (/jZNa)

89 I remember when Sam Donaldson said that if the Monica Lewinsky story were proven true that Clinton's presidency was over. We all knew it was true, but it wasn't PROVEN true. Until later. After we had all been told it wasn't true.

Clinton left office with the highest approval ever, they told us.
Posted by: blaster at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (pwExq)
---
They weren't prepared for how much digging in they would do if it turned out it was true.

Plus, Democrats do not use words to represent reality. This was Donaldson making the case that these were "really serious accusations" you are making against the President--so you'd better have all your ducks in the row

...

Oh, it's just about sex! Why do you care so much?

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 01:38 PM (krQz2)

90 The peasants are revolting!
Posted by: m at October 31, 2022 01:37 PM (0ixKl)



They stink on ice.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 31, 2022 01:38 PM (yQpMk)

91 For reference:

Congress shall make *no law* respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 01:38 PM (yHsuS)

92 Making TV news sound honest.

Posted by: BignJames at October 31, 2022 01:38 PM (AwYPR)

93 Though DHS shuttered its controversial Disinformation Governance Board, a strategic document reveals the underlying work is ongoing.
++++
No one - and I mean nobody - could have possibly seen that coming.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 31, 2022 01:38 PM (/jZNa)

94 @27

>>Just for laughs, how much of COVID stuff labeled "misinformation" turned out to be correct?

Well, we sussed out COVID within 6 months of the Plandemic being instituted, so we pretty much had their number from jump street.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 31, 2022 01:39 PM (E5pxJ)

95 Can we stop asking if we've reached "peak stupid" now?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 01:37 PM (llON

It's a positive feedback loop. The peak stupid of yesterday is the foundation for the peak stupid of tomorrow.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 31, 2022 01:39 PM (UuD2k)

96 Given the topic of this post, are we sure that election wasn't also "fortified" by some of our three-letter agencies?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (llON

Almost certainly was stolen.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 31, 2022 01:39 PM (CL4kO)

97 This woman must be fired. Half of the FBI must be fired, and the CIA, NSA, and DOJ too.

Just half?

Posted by: Hungry Moron at October 31, 2022 01:39 PM (nbJyt)

98 I saw the headline at Insty that Weinstein evidently had a wank on a dirty dancing actresses face and immediately thought of... whoever that was? One of the Jennifer Something Lee women?

But it was DD: Havana Nights.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 31, 2022 01:39 PM (CwQXo)

99 Now this is the kind of fascism I can get behind. It's like the other fascism where I just disagree with someone.

Posted by: typical leftist at October 31, 2022 01:39 PM (4n6fw)

100 It's really obvious where this is heading, and has been heading for a long time. It's also really obvious Congress will do nothing to stop it.

Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 01:39 PM (sVtYq)

101 Wait. Jennifer Grey?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 31, 2022 01:39 PM (CwQXo)

102 The peasants are revolting!
Posted by: m at October 31, 2022


***
I know, I've seen 'em. Merchant class is no bargain either.

Posted by: King Arglebargle IV at October 31, 2022 01:39 PM (J2vNu)

103 It sounds extreme, but for the rest of my life, I'm always going to assume a liberal-leftist doesn't mean what they say. They might mean it in some one-time-only sense, but they haven't really considered it, so they don't actually mean it.

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (krQz2)

104 The easiest solution is to stop using social media.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 31, 2022 01:34 PM (oyfLT)


Isolate yourself. Ignore your neighbors. Maybe the NKVD will not knock on your apartment door tonight.

Posted by: Alexandr Solzhenitsyn at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (Z32m1)

105 if Republicans would stop inciting violence crime might go down

- Jennifer "Pro-privacy" Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) October 30, 2022
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (UuD2k)

Can we stop asking if we've reached "peak stupid" now?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 01:37 PM (llON

Somehow, I suspect she has deeper depths to plumb.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (yHsuS)

106 There is also a formalized process for government officials to directly flag content on Facebook or Instagram and request that it be throttled or suppressed through a special Facebook portal that requires a government or law enforcement email to use. At the time of writing, the "content request system" at facebook.com/xtakedowns/login is still live. DHS and Meta, the parent company of Facebook, did not respond to a request for comment. The FBI declined to comment.
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And what are they warrant requirements for that? None, you say?

Well then. That means, of course, that it is flatly illegal. The government is not allowed to solicit non-government entities to do on its behalf that which it itself is forbidden by law from doing.

But we're post-law, and so here are.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (/jZNa)

107
1. The dilithium crystal that powers all conspiracy theories is the belief that the authorities are running a cover up - a lie.

I wonder why conspiracy theories are tending recently.

2. related - There was discussion recently about the subway pusher "being allowed back on the subway when he gets out of prison." and asking "why are criminals even allowed to ride the subway."

What surprised me was how much support this argument got from people I would have thought more of. This is how they get their foot in the door - first justify the safety need, then add the facial recognition hardware, then the apps on phones.... They always need a justification.

Trump and Jan 6 were pumped up as justification for all this in the post. (maybe Ace said that, i haven't read it all yet.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (LuJTM)

108 Though DHS shuttered its controversial Disinformation Governance Board, a strategic document reveals the underlying work is ongoing.

Surprising exactly zero people with functioning cortexes. This does leave out most liberals however.

They've got bean-shaped pools with infinity edges to put in their backyards. They're not here to fight for anyone's constitutional rights.

I believe it was The Rick Wilson that described the Lincoln Project as "an opportunity to generate generational wealth". For LP members only.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (JOtiF)

109 97 Roman Decimation,to encourage the others...

Posted by: steevy at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (yezA1)

110 "facebook.com/xtakedowns/login"

Need to be an 'onboarded partner' to get in. Nuts.

Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (24fqN)

111 >>Given the topic of this post, are we sure that election wasn't also "fortified" by some of our three-letter agencies?


Now with 81M Essential Votes!

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (FtySS)

112 56 The FedGov and their willing partners can claim all they want that this is a voluntary collaboration, but to this simple guy, it seems they're working as government agents and this is a direct violation of the first amendment.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (eyxn4)

Aren't there several outstanding Federal lawsuits alleging this very thing?
Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (Z32m1)

As I've pointed out... 37% of the GDP is spent by either Local, State, or Fed, Government. No company can 'ignore' the wishes of a client that large.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (oHd/0)

113 I am still exceedingly pissed off that the Pharma-Government Complex murdered my Brother-in-Law.

When will the day of reckoning come?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (yQpMk)

114 This woman must be fired. Half of the FBI must be fired, and the CIA, NSA, and DOJ too.
*
Just half?
Posted by: Hungry Moron at October 31, 2022


***
Half, then half of the remainder.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 31, 2022 01:41 PM (J2vNu)

115 In late February, Easterly texted with Matthew Masterson, a representative at Microsoft who formerly worked at CISA, that she is "trying to get us in a place where Fed can work with platforms to better understand mis/dis trends so relevant agencies can try to prebunk/debunk as useful."
++++
1. Whoever came up with "prebunk" should spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement for crimes against language.

2. Gotta love them backdoors.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 31, 2022 01:41 PM (/jZNa)

116 It sounds extreme, but for the rest of my life, I'm always going to assume a liberal-leftist doesn't mean what they say. They might mean it in some one-time-only sense, but they haven't really considered it, so they don't actually mean it.

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (krQz2)

If it appears against their interests, this is a safe bet. If against your interest, believe what they say and grid your loins.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 01:41 PM (yHsuS)

117 I remember a time when lefties decried R rating for movies as threatening their freedom but think shutting down free speech of people with whom you disagree is protecting the truth.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 31, 2022 01:41 PM (3JfbU)

118 1. Whoever came up with "prebunk" should spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement for crimes against language.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 31, 2022 01:41 PM (/jZNa)

Or at least one night in the box.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 01:42 PM (yHsuS)

119 Did Musk get rid of that stupid "get the latest COVID19 info" clickbait at the bottom of Twitter messages? If so, that is a major step forward.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at October 31, 2022 01:42 PM (TNyrE)

120 They ate " pre bunking " the gay pickup angle about Paul Pelosi right now....

Posted by: steevy at October 31, 2022 01:42 PM (yezA1)

121 Half, then half of the remainder.

There is no natural stopping point. Well, until you get to one employee. That would be acceptable.

Posted by: Xeno's Paradox at October 31, 2022 01:42 PM (eOEVl)

122 Oh, it's just about sex! Why do you care so much?
Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 01:38 PM (krQz2)


What you are describing is the defense in depth.

I wasn't there, and if I did, I didn't do it, and if I did, I didn't mean to, and if I did it was because it was a good thing to do.

They do this every time. If the word is now that government is infringing your speech through the tech companies, then it's for your safety.

Posted by: blaster at October 31, 2022 01:42 PM (pwExq)

123 Congress shall make *no law* respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 01:38 PM (yHsuS)

Congress didn't pass a law allowing us to do this... we did it on our own...

Posted by: DHS. at October 31, 2022 01:43 PM (oHd/0)

124 Congress shall make *no law* respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

--

Congress, sure. But what about those unaccountable bureaucracies? The ones who write their own rules and do as they please, regardless of consitutional constraint? Bureaucracies, I might add, whose budgets and departments have grown exponentially with no end in sight to their parameters.

Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 01:43 PM (sVtYq)

125 Fired Twitter lawyer Vijaya Gadde
........

We should be able to have some fun with this name.

Posted by: wth at October 31, 2022 01:43 PM (v0R5T)

126 Is “prebunking” when you get into the bunk before you have the appropriate…reading material?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 31, 2022 01:43 PM (3jOB7)

127 >>Given the topic of this post, are we sure that election wasn't also "fortified" by some of our three-letter agencies?


Now with 81M Essential Votes!

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (FtySS)

The call was coming from inside the house.

Posted by: DOJ at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (yHsuS)

128 What you are describing is the defense in depth.

I wasn't there, and if I did, I didn't do it, and if I did, I didn't mean to, and if I did it was because it was a good thing to do.

They do this every time. If the word is now that government is infringing your speech through the tech companies, then it's for your safety.


*counts spoons*

Posted by: Archimedes at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (eOEVl)

129 Fired Twitter lawyer Vijaya Gadde
........

We should be able to have some fun with this name.
Posted by: wth at October 31, 2022 01:43 PM (v0R5T)


No fun. Too obvious.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (AiZBA)

130 Homeland Security: "Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov't."

JUST LIE BACK AND ENJOY IT!!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (KXsGl)

131 109 97 Roman Decimation,to encourage the others...
Posted by: steevy at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (yezA1)

One in ten is fewer people than half!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (CwQXo)

132 1. Whoever came up with "prebunk" should spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement for crimes against language.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 31, 2022 01:41 PM (/jZNa)


"Prebunk" is when you tell me there's a Daddario pic about to be posted, and I still haven't seen it, but thought I better start getting ready.

Posted by: Wally at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (FJYfm)

133 This woman must be fired. Half of the FBI must be fired, and the CIA, NSA, and DOJ too.

Natural conservatism hesitates sometimes right at the precipice. How far is "too far"? But this is just a silly half measure that would defeat its own purpose: Firing and prosecution for treason are the obvious policy.

Posted by: David French at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (TwFKJ)

134 2. related - There was discussion recently about the subway pusher "being allowed back on the subway when he gets out of prison." and asking "why are criminals even allowed to ride the subway."

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (LuJTM)

Why put them in prison? Just shoot them in the head, throw the corpse on the tracks, and let the trains mulch 'em up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (CL4kO)

135 Half of the FBI must be fired, and the CIA, NSA, and DOJ too.

But that's both halves!

Posted by: Dept. of Homeland Security at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (vNbzm)

136 Half, then half of the remainder.

There is no natural stopping point. Well, until you get to one employee. That would be acceptable.
Posted by: Xeno's Paradox at October 31, 2022 01:42 PM (eOEVl)


Christopher Wray.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (AiZBA)

137 Half, then half of the remainder.

There is no natural stopping point. Well, until you get to one employee. That would be acceptable.
Posted by: Xeno's Paradox at October 31, 2022 01:42 PM (eOEVl)



You can always split that one in half, then in quarters, and so on.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (yQpMk)

138 I wonder how long the Swamp will let Glenn Greenwald live. Or Elon Musk for that matter. They are becoming very dangerous to their plans.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (3JfbU)

139 Back in the early 90s many conservatives argued for one, very specific carve out to the first amendment, regarding flag burning. The argument was it was an act so incendiary that doing so would actually protect the flag burning leftists from the harm they invited. Plus, you can say, "I hate America" without burning a flag all you want. Interesting how we've gone from that, rejected vigorously (the trope used to be, "I disagree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" to indirect government sponsored significant censorship on actual speech on social media to protect from some ephemeral "harm" (most likely disruption/inconvenience to the junta).

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (UUCk+)

140 When will the day of reckoning come?
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Sadly, for us at least, Our Good Lord alone knows.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 31, 2022 01:45 PM (LsEU/)

141 126 Is “prebunking” when you get into the bunk before you have the appropriate…reading material?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 31, 2022 01:43 PM (3jOB7)

Premature bunkification.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 31, 2022 01:45 PM (CwQXo)

142 oops, I forget comments made in French are Ace's province.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 31, 2022 01:45 PM (TwFKJ)

143 The moral of the story, I guess, is not to treat your poor underclass like just so much dog shit you scraped off your shoe.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (yQpMk)


Fortunately, throughout human history, communists have never mistreated the underclass. Also, and more seriously, the underclass never seems to learn this lesson.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 31, 2022 01:45 PM (GYIa4)

144 95 Can we stop asking if we've reached "peak stupid" now?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 01:37 PM

Can we stop or limit any of 'let that sink in' (though that's now chief twit's thang), 'big if true', 'sources familiar with'...

and...

TheBigLie

#thebiglieisthelie

almost like Charlie the movie
that that is, is, that that is not, is not, is that it? it is.

Posted by: micky at October 31, 2022 01:46 PM (3byMq)

145 Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (UUCk+)

Well observed and said.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 31, 2022 01:46 PM (CwQXo)

146 They are working overtime to ensure that the truth about 2016, 2020, A'stan and Covid never comes out-- and this makes my blood boil.
But the truth WILL come out

Posted by: JoeF. at October 31, 2022 01:46 PM (mR6Gs)

147 In late February, Easterly texted with Matthew Masterson, a representative at Microsoft who formerly worked at CISA, that she is "trying to get us in a place where Fed can work with platforms to better understand mis/dis trends so relevant agencies can try to prebunk/debunk as useful."

--

Isn't it funny how quickly "disinformation" and "misinformation" came out of nowhere to permeate all political discussions? It's obvious the left came up with both terms to use as cudgels to shutting up and shutting down errant Americans. The word went out. Now that's all you hear. Kind of like a coordinated plan or something...

Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 01:46 PM (sVtYq)

148 I'm so old I remember when the Secret Police had the common decency to be, y'know, secret. These bastages like to rub our noses in it.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 31, 2022 01:46 PM (cupoy)

149 142 oops, I forget comments made in French are Ace's province.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 31, 2022 01:45 PM (TwFKJ)

Don't you mean Provence?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 31, 2022 01:46 PM (CwQXo)

150 And National Review, Bulwark, Washington Examiner, Free Beacon, etc. never broke stories like this?

Huh.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (pLppt)

151 America is a farce. Democrats are the culprits.

They want to "crack down" on election year misinformation, but Hillary Clinton, the woman who put the IC in motion in spreading misinformation is still walking around free.

And you can't even get the guy spreading the lies for Hillary Clinton for lying to the FIB, because the FIB gave him a salary, and that turned a plot against the president as just "mismanagement".

Nobody involved in backing up waves of dump trucks and dumping misinformation on the American people will probably spend as much time in prison as somebody who posts something it is not in the government's interest to acknowledge on their Facebook page.

The latest regulations of "misinformation" suggests that you don't even need an intent to deceive to "commit a crime".

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (krQz2)

152 Who would have thought in mid to late 00s that Glenn Greenwald will turn out to be one of 5he good guys. I remember him being lampooned here for sockpuppeting.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (3JfbU)

153 You prebunkers remember to change the sheets. Have a little consideration for the postbunkers and rebunkers.

Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (24fqN)

154 98 I saw the headline at Insty that Weinstein evidently had a wank on a dirty dancing actresses face and immediately thought of... whoever that was? One of the Jennifer Something Lee women?

Nobody puts Baby (batter) in the corner!

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (hXXru)

155 I remember when Sam Donaldson said that if the Monica Lewinsky story were proven true that Clinton's presidency was over. We all knew it was true, but it wasn't PROVEN true. Until later. After we had all been told it wasn't true.
...
Posted by: blaster at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (pwExq)


That was when I finally realized we did not live in a "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" world. I was so happy and cheerful in my oblivious naivete.

Posted by: Alexandr Solzhenitsyn at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (Z32m1)

156 106 Well then. That means, of course, that it is flatly illegal. The government is not allowed to solicit non-government entities to do on its behalf that which it itself is forbidden by law from doing.

But we're post-law, and so here are.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (/jZNa)


Yahbut, according to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, these Monster Tech companies were going to censor these people anyway so it's totally not fascistic. Seriously; that's the EFF's stated position on the matter. It'll be "fun" watching them tie themselves into an even tighter knot defending Biden's fascism following this most recent informational drop.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 31, 2022 01:48 PM (DTX3h)

157 "Behind closed doors, and through pressure on private platforms, the U.S. government has used its power to try to shape online discourse."

Is anyone surprised by this?

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at October 31, 2022 01:48 PM (Rbu5d)

158 In a March meeting, Laura Dehmlow, an FBI official, warned that the threat of subversive information on social media could undermine support for the U.S. government
---

And here I thought it was the government's own actions that made me less supportive of it. Cut and run in Afghanistan. FBI overkill raids against nonviolent "offenders". Gain of function research here in the States. Their poor handling of the economy and crime. It's not a short list.

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 31, 2022 01:48 PM (greSx)

159 153 You prebunkers remember to change the sheets. Have a little consideration for the postbunkers and rebunkers.
Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (24fqN)

Except for those Tantric Bunkers- because fuck those guys.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 31, 2022 01:48 PM (CwQXo)

160 Homeland Security: "Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov't."

And this was said by a guy hired by Microsoft---after he left the DHS

Posted by: JoeF. at October 31, 2022 01:48 PM (mR6Gs)

161 "You can always split that one in half, then in quarters, and so on."

That's how I'd do it.

Posted by: Xeno at October 31, 2022 01:48 PM (24fqN)

162
Fired Twitter lawyer Vijaya Gadde Vajayjay Giddyup.


My work here is done.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 31, 2022 01:48 PM (KLPy8)

163 I noted some Euroweenie censorship queef named Thierry attempted to bat down Elon's quote about freedom, saying Twitter would play by his rules. Some bureaucrat twit who doesn't understand that Continentals can just get a VPN to access the American version. Neo-maoist garbage you are, Thierry.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 31, 2022 01:48 PM (UUCk+)

164 You know, I would be fine if all of these government directed censorship actions carried with them a disclosure of the agency and person responsible for making the censorship directive.

But then, you know that they would just farm it out to some government contractor to further insulate themselves from transparency and accountability, a la FISA 702 "about" queries.

MFers.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 01:49 PM (yHsuS)

165 "... that requires a government or law enforcement email to use"....

They do realize that anybody can spoof any "from" address they like on an email, right?

Is that literally the only metric for their supposed security on this seemingly rather potent back-door?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 31, 2022 01:49 PM (6FeV1)

166 How about we fire anyone connected to DHS, try for treason anyone connected with efforts to infringe on the Rights of American citizens, and only hire for government jobs those who can prove their loyalty to the nation and its founding values.

Posted by: Methos at October 31, 2022 01:49 PM (kOpft)

167 Kamala Harris' comment supporting Antifa violence applies neatly to Democrat leadership support for security services obvious treasons.

But they're not going to stop. They're not going to stop. They're not. This is a movement. I'm telling you. They're not going to stop, and everyone, beware. Because they're not going to stop. They're not going to stop before election day in November, and they are not going to stop after Election Day. And everyone should take note of that on both levels. That they're not going to let up. And they should not, and we should not.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 31, 2022 01:49 PM (TwFKJ)

168 So Ace is the only one allowed to sock-puppet David French?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 31, 2022 01:49 PM (3jOB7)

169 153 You prebunkers remember to change the sheets. Have a little consideration for the postbunkers and rebunkers.
Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (24fqN)


...to say nothing of "hotbunkers".

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 31, 2022 01:50 PM (BgMrQ)

170 Then out spake brave Horatius, The Captain of the Gate: "To every man upon this earth Death cometh soon or late. And how can man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his gods."



Getting closer to that time...


Posted by: Archer at October 31, 2022 01:50 PM (gmo/4)

171 Except for those Tantric Bunkers- because fuck those guys.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 31, 2022 01:48 PM (CwQXo)

oOooOOOOhhhhh AaaaaAAAAAaaarchie!

Posted by: A happy Edith Bunker at October 31, 2022 01:50 PM (6FeV1)

172 And we're suppose to believe that if the Hunter laptop story had been the Don Jr. laptop story, the FIB would have intervened to stop it. Surrre.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 31, 2022 01:50 PM (NpAcC)

173 Posted by: Methos at October 31, 2022 01:49 PM (kOpft)

DHS, another lasting Bush Family Legacy.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 31, 2022 01:50 PM (oHd/0)

174 Well, I guess it's no mystery who the Nazis in America are any longer.
Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 01:33 PM (krQz2)
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Please, please. Get your left wing totalitarian sects described properly. I realize it's difficult with the many out there. Fascists!

Posted by: Black JEM at October 31, 2022 01:50 PM (xWZcb)

175 27 Just for laughs, how much of COVID stuff labeled "misinformation" turned out to be correct?
Posted by: steevy at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (yezA1)

Well, nowadays: what's the difference between conspiracy theory and truth?

#twoweeks

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at October 31, 2022 01:51 PM (Rbu5d)

176 ...to say nothing of "hotbunkers".
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 31, 2022 01:50 PM (BgMrQ)

They use those visqueen covers on the beds.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 31, 2022 01:51 PM (CwQXo)

177 What a fucked up society. So many eager to let corrupt, mal-educated assholes run every aspect of their lives.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 31, 2022 01:51 PM (G/v5P)

178 You prebunkers remember to change the sheets. Have a little consideration for the postbunkers and rebunkers.
Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (24fqN)

Sorry, I have to go on watch. But I left it warm for you.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 01:51 PM (yHsuS)

179 "The extent to which the DHS initiatives affect Americans' daily social feeds is unclear."

Phew, sure am glad I stayed off those 'daily feeds.'

Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at October 31, 2022 01:51 PM (24fqN)

180 This is in no way a direct violation of the First Amendment.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 31, 2022 01:51 PM (u4CEu)

181
So Ace is the only one allowed to sock-puppet David French?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 31, 2022 01:49 PM (3jOB7)

French is a sock-puppet for whoever funds the Cuckpatch. That guy owns the rights to the Rt. Rev. David French™.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 31, 2022 01:51 PM (oINRc)

182 Can I be the first to post - "Alex Jones was right, again!"

Posted by: JakeSpeed at October 31, 2022 01:51 PM (Vu1jV)

183 Sam Donaldson is still alive...wonder why he doesn't have a show?

Posted by: BignJames at October 31, 2022 01:52 PM (AwYPR)

184 Isn't it funny how quickly "disinformation" and "misinformation" came out of nowhere to permeate all political discussions? It's obvious the left came up with both terms to use as cudgels to shutting up and shutting down errant Americans. The word went out. Now that's all you hear. Kind of like a coordinated plan or something...
Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 01:46 PM (sVtYq)
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It's even almost like it's hard to see if the concept called "free speech" that was so important to the Democrats in the 20th century is within the Overton Window.

So much has the disinformation of the Democrats has convinced people that the main criteria of speech is whether it avoids being some authority's definition of "misinformation" or "disinformation".

And these people will insist they are not "authoritarian". No, that's conservative.

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 01:52 PM (krQz2)

185 So Ace is the only one allowed to sock-puppet David French?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 31, 2022 01:49 PM (3jOB7)
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nah brah, it was a bad play on words while changing socks. Please ignore.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 31, 2022 01:52 PM (TwFKJ)

186 ... I saw the headline at Insty that Weinstein evidently had a wank on a dirty dancing actresses face ...


Pffft!

Posted by: Jennifer Lawrence at October 31, 2022 01:52 PM (KLPy8)

187 Congress, sure. But what about those unaccountable bureaucracies? The ones who write their own rules and do as they please, regardless of consitutional constraint? Bureaucracies, I might add, whose budgets and departments have grown exponentially with no end in sight to their parameters.
Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat


I think we're quickly approaching a Supreme Court case in which the administrative departments argue they aren't part of Congress or the Executive so the Constitution doesn't inhibit them. Tra-la-la, off we go to disappear some citizens~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 31, 2022 01:52 PM (IyrhE)

188 153 You prebunkers remember to change the sheets. Have a little consideration for the postbunkers and rebunkers.
Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (24fqN)

LOL, talk about timing... just put my sheets in the washin machine...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 31, 2022 01:52 PM (oHd/0)

189 Back in the early 90s many conservatives argued for one, very specific carve out to the first amendment, regarding flag burning. The argument was it was an act so incendiary that doing so would actually protect the flag burning leftists from the harm they invited. Plus, you can say, "I hate America" without burning a flag all you want. Interesting how we've gone from that, rejected vigorously (the trope used to be, "I disagree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" to indirect government sponsored significant censorship on actual speech on social media to protect from some ephemeral "harm" (most likely disruption/inconvenience to the junta).
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 31, 2022 01:44 PM (UUCk+)


My view on Flag Burning was less nuanced. Flag Burning was a physical act, not act of speech. You can burn the Flag as long as I can burn you too.

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 01:52 PM (Z32m1)

190 22 I actually kind of like the gray aesthetic, personally.

could use a few more shades

Posted by: anastasia at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (gu2bt)

191 So Elon Musk is in possession of a lot of internal communications between Twitter and the FBI? Interesting.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (86L66)

192 The easiest solution is to stop using social media.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 31, 2022 01:34 PM (oyfLT)

Isolate yourself. Ignore your neighbors. Maybe the NKVD will not knock on your apartment door tonight.
Posted by: Alexandr Solzhenitsyn at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (Z32m1)


Ignoring the insipid bullshit that constitutes ~150% of social media is not the same as ignoring what's happening around you. Be better, Alex.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (GYIa4)

193 How about we fire anyone connected to DHS, try for treason anyone connected with efforts to infringe on the Rights of American citizens, and only hire for government jobs those who can prove their loyalty to the nation and its founding values.

Posted by: Methos at October 31, 2022 01:49 PM (kOpft)

All we can offer is this recycled Fast and Furious sternly worded letter.

Posted by: GOPe Pawn Stars at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (yHsuS)

194 My 7 year old kid caught Covid again.

If it weren't for the fact that we know his teacher got it, then one of his classmates caught it, we wouldn't have tested him. He had a headache for a couple of hours, and now he has some sniffles.

It's bullshit, but we're not going to let him go trick or treating because it's the big skeery Covid. Ugh.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (eyxn4)

195 This is in no way a direct violation of the First Amendment.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 31, 2022 01:51 PM (u4CEu)


Good thing you said that. We've still got our eyes on you.

Posted by: Marrick Garland at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (AiZBA)

196 This is in no way a direct violation of the First Amendment.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 31, 2022 01:51 PM (u4CEu)
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No "chilling effect" on speech, eh?

That's the standard I have been told (by a bunch of liars) the Government has.

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (krQz2)

197 Civil rights violations under color of law.

And they were doing this while Trump was their boss ....

I'll bet they're still protected from firing under the civil service laws.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (5EnGD)

198 Where is the fucking Supreme Court as the first amendment gets torched and government takes over privately held organs of public communication? These motherfuckers celebrate themselves regularly as the guardians of liberty, but they are so far fucking behind the curve, So fucking slow to respond, that they are for all intents and purposes useless to the cause of protecting liberty.

Posted by: Drooling Joe at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (YTBIQ)

199 Kinda turns out that anything called a conspiracy theory, or 'Fact Checked' as negative...

ends up being a spoiler alert.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (oHd/0)

200 What are the odds that we get to hear from DePape?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (flINI)

201 Somehow, I suspect she has deeper depths to plumb.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (yHsuS)


And yet, no one will volunteer to plumb them.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 31, 2022 01:54 PM (GYIa4)

202 The man who shot Steve Scalise Was not motivated by the words, deeds and actions of Democrats or Liberals. He was motivated by the words, deeds and actions of Republicans and conservatives.

The man who attacked Mr Pelosi was not motivated by the words, deeds and actions of Democrats and Liberals. He was motivated by the words, deeds and actions of Republicans and Conservatives.

Evil resides on only one side of the aisle.


Democrats would have prevented the guy from getting a gun in the first place if they could

Did Bernie Sanders urge him to shoot anybody? Did Bernie Sanders rail about election integrity? Did Bernie urge him to stop the steal and blame Jewish space lasers for whatever? Did Bernie make commercials firing a rifle at a range at a target showing a democrat?

The ugly truth is that a lot of those so-called "Bernie-Bros" were really QMAGAts in disguise.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 31, 2022 01:54 PM (nbJyt)

203 27 Just for laughs, how much of COVID stuff labeled "misinformation" turned out to be correct?
Posted by: steevy at October 31, 2022 01:30 PM (yezA1)
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Let's just assume all of it and work backwards, if any contrary facts come out.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 31, 2022 01:54 PM (TwFKJ)

204 You can always split that one in half, then in quarters, and so on.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Don't make me separate you!

(that's a pinky and the brain joke.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 31, 2022 01:54 PM (LuJTM)

205 Sorry, I have to go on watch. But I left it warm for you.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 01:51 PM (yHsuS)



and sticky.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 31, 2022 01:54 PM (yQpMk)

206 What are the odds that we get to hear from DePape?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (flINI)

Frankie Fabulous??

Pretty good.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 31, 2022 01:54 PM (mR6Gs)

207 I cringe every time i hear or read 'homeland' in the 'homeland security'.

We had a Civil Defense. Needed a phrase worthy of the commie office it is, i suppose.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 31, 2022 01:54 PM (3Or4S)

208 49 It's not just social media the govt uses to shape the narative, they have been using print and tv and movies to do the same thing my whole life.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 31, 2022 01:32 PM (L08P2)

There's a reason they call it "programming."

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at October 31, 2022 01:54 PM (Rbu5d)

209 IF the Department of Homeland Security was only what it was sold as - a clearinghouse that coordinated all other intelligence services to make sure they aren't being Gorelicked apart.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 01:55 PM (Ivdso)

210 you know, this seems a tad inappropriate. Too bad the country is so gone that no one fucking cares. "Oh, the FI is censoring speech. But 1/6!"

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 31, 2022 01:55 PM (MLrvz)

211 dangerous forms of information = TRUTH

Truth is very dangerous to the liars.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 31, 2022 01:55 PM (u4CEu)

212 the FBI are the dogs; the CIA are the handlers

they really prefer working on domestic stuff, the foreign stuff wasn't that fun for them

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at October 31, 2022 01:55 PM (w0NJk)

213 They use those visqueen covers on the beds.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

If there's a bustle in your hedgerow
Don't be alarmed now
It's just a spring clean for the visqueen


-- Whadda think Robert?
Not quite there Jimmy.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 31, 2022 01:55 PM (LsEU/)

214 With great power comes great opportunity to shit on others.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 31, 2022 01:55 PM (LuJTM)

215 My daughter's boyfriend works for a dem in congress, he slipped up while he was drinking and started to talk about a new responsibility he was giving. He said he was tasked with doing fact checking on fakebook, I started to ask him some questions and my daughter told him to shut up. She was not happy that he let that slip. SMH
Lots of shenanigans going on.

Posted by: spypeach at October 31, 2022 01:55 PM (UuB/1)

216 Actress from Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights apparently some later low cost sequel?

Posted by: steevy at October 31, 2022 01:55 PM (yezA1)

217 207 I cringe every time i hear or read 'homeland' in the 'homeland security'.

We had a Civil Defense. Needed a phrase worthy of the commie office it is, i suppose.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 31, 2022 01:54 PM (3Or4S)

Homeland, Fatherland, same deal

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 31, 2022 01:55 PM (6FeV1)

218 You prebunkers remember to change the sheets. Have a little consideration for the postbunkers and rebunkers.
Posted by: gp Resides Above Ordinary Subjectivity at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (24fqN)

LOL, talk about timing... just put my sheets in the washin machine...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 31, 2022 01:52 PM (oHd/0)


This prebunker is welcome to stick around.

https://bit.ly/3gU1v3Y

Posted by: GOPe Pawn Stars at October 31, 2022 01:55 PM (yHsuS)

219 It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Elon ends up dead.

He's sort of reckless anyway, it would be very easy to get near him. If you don't think someone would kill Musk to get control of the "narrative", you're naive.

The people that were saying "who cares about Twitter, I don't use it!" really have no idea just how important a communication tool it has become.

Posted by: Blago at October 31, 2022 01:56 PM (9AU9Y)

220 The ACLU is all over this, right?

Posted by: mr tmz at October 31, 2022 01:56 PM (rJ48h)

221 I still maintain that the whole thing is crumbling and about to fall. The problem with the global feudal lord scum set is that they forgot there were a bunch of other really rich people who might have a different idea and didn't want to follow the current convention.

The American Revolution was fought for just such a reason. A bunch of rich and powerful people tired of getting forced to do a far off capital's bidding without being able to play in the game. Lexington and Concord were their rallying cry.

Funny to think that Twitter's taking down of the Babylon Bee satire account, was the trigger that made Musk finally say enough. Now Meta is on the ropes, and probably about to become MySpace.

If the GOP fails to do what they are running on - not the GOPe, we know what they will do - then it probably gets really ugly. Forcing the entire GOP to support a formal budgeting process is the first and very difficult step.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 31, 2022 01:56 PM (xWZcb)

222 Another conspiracy theory confirmed.

Posted by: squid_hunt at October 31, 2022 01:57 PM (iJVoP)

223 The ACLU is all over this, right?
Posted by: mr tmz at October 31, 2022 01:56 PM (rJ48h)

Their baby batter is

Posted by: JoeF. at October 31, 2022 01:57 PM (mR6Gs)

224 This woman must be fired. Half of the FBI must be fired, and the CIA, NSA, and DOJ too.
*
Just half?
Posted by: Hungry Moron at October 31, 2022
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Half, then half of the remainder.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 31, 2022 01:41 PM (J2vNu)


Three groups need to be fired:
1. Anyone who violated the Constitution/laws.
2. Anyone who knew/suspected someone was in group 1 and did nothing about it.
3. Anyone who was too stupid to realize that a significant fraction of their agency fell into groups 1/2.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 31, 2022 01:57 PM (GYIa4)

225 What are the odds that we get to hear from DePape?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (flINI)


Why is he still in jail? If you're going to get rid of bail, don't you have to get rid of it for everyone (he asks rhetorically and sarcastically)?

Posted by: Wally at October 31, 2022 01:57 PM (FJYfm)

226 62 The easiest solution is to stop using social media.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 31, 2022 01:34 PM (oyfLT)

^^^^
(But where would we get all the cute bat videos?)
😁

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at October 31, 2022 01:57 PM (Rbu5d)

227 I guess, to me, the interesting thing about prebunking/debunking via censorship, it that it isn't. That's called debate, you address the counterpoint and demonstrate its weakness (if any) using facts. This is, "shut up, they explained." And it's so terribly wrong because, in the end, it turns out their explanations, (covid origin, efficacy of masks, shutdowns. Vaccines, virtual schools) the ones implemented with no argument considered or allowed, were the one's debunked. Now the Atlantic wants forgiveness. Correct answer is ropes and lampposts, because this was Rahmesque crisis opportunism for political power, not genuine mistakes made out of goodwill and concern.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 31, 2022 01:57 PM (UUCk+)

228 I started to ask him some questions and my daughter told him to shut up. She was not happy that he let that slip. SMH
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She was concerned you might get the wrong impression, that Democrats are censoring speech on Fakebook and Big Tech generally. You obviously need some "context" to really understand, before being trusted with bald-faced facts.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 31, 2022 01:58 PM (TwFKJ)

229 And we're suppose to believe that if the Hunter laptop story had been the Don Jr. laptop story, the FIB would have intervened to stop it. Surrre.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 31, 2022 01:50 PM (NpAcC)


The Donald Trump Jr., was a criminal mastermind being bribed by foreign governments was a recurring news story for the entire previous five years.

Any Trump laptop would have been THE PROOF WE ALL KNEW EXISTED!!!!!! , not some Russian Disinformation.

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 01:58 PM (Z32m1)

230 The ACLU is all over this, right?

Who do you think is telling the .gov folks where to look for badthink?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 31, 2022 01:58 PM (Bd6X8)

231 154 98 I saw the headline at Insty that Weinstein evidently had a wank on a dirty dancing actresses face and immediately thought of... whoever that was? One of the Jennifer Something Lee women?

Nobody puts Baby (batter) in the corner!
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (hXXru)

Now we know why she went in for the face lift.

Weinstein's spunk was toxic...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 31, 2022 01:58 PM (BgMrQ)

232
My view on Flag Burning was less nuanced. Flag Burning was a physical act, not act of speech. You can burn the Flag as long as I can burn you too.
Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 01:52 PM (Z32m1)

cut, jib, etc....!

Posted by: Moki at October 31, 2022 01:58 PM (JrN/x)

233 Why is he still in jail? If you're going to get rid of bail, don't you have to get rid of it for everyone (he asks rhetorically and sarcastically)?
Posted by: Wally at October 31, 2022 01:57 PM (FJYfm)

I don't think bail matters if they lock you in a looney bin.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 31, 2022 01:58 PM (6FeV1)

234 Too bad the country is so gone that no one fucking cares. "Oh, the FI is censoring speech. But 1/6!"

Almost nobody except in congress is talking about January 6th. Most people don't even remember it or know what happened then. It does not move the meter except with the most extreme zealots

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 01:58 PM (Ivdso)

235 just want to say, Gleen has been awesome on this

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at October 31, 2022 01:58 PM (w0NJk)

236 I cringe every time i hear or read 'homeland' in the 'homeland security'.

We had a Civil Defense. Needed a phrase worthy of the commie office it is, i suppose.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom!

Tim Ryan, Dem candidate for the Senate from Ohio has the slogan 'Workers First!" on his campaign materials.

Communist much Tim?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 31, 2022 01:58 PM (LsEU/)

237 211 dangerous forms of information = TRUTH

Truth is very dangerous to the liars.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 31, 2022 01:55 PM (u4CEu)

Problem is they redefined Truth... it no longer has to be based on Fact, or even Reality...

YOUR Truth is what is important.. they say...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 31, 2022 01:58 PM (oHd/0)

238 The people that were saying "who cares about Twitter, I don't use it!" really have no idea just how important a communication tool echo chamber it has become.
Posted by: Blago at October 31, 2022 01:56 PM (9AU9Y)

Posted by: BignJames at October 31, 2022 01:59 PM (AwYPR)

239 These motherfuckers celebrate themselves regularly as the guardians of liberty,

Courts are only the guardians of liberty when they need more funding for personal security.

Posted by: Methos at October 31, 2022 01:59 PM (kOpft)

240 219- I expect we'll all end up that way. It's really a question of timing.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 31, 2022 01:59 PM (UUCk+)

241 I figure that if you let Swinestein cum on your face you'd get more than a peripheral role.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 31, 2022 01:59 PM (flINI)

242 Musk is trolling the liberals into hysterics over at Twitter by allowing free speech.

Facebook's Zuckerberg has lost $100 BILLION dollars of personal wealth in just 13 months. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Posted by: cjhmhch at October 31, 2022 01:59 PM (FF8MW)

243 DHS's mission to fight disinformation,

Then DHS must be shut down and the officers need to be jailed for conspiracy to deprive citizens of their civil rights.

A cabinet level organization dedicated to stomping out the US Constitution, in particular the 1st Amendment is abhorrent and like the BATF (which exists to stamp out the 2nd Amendment) needs to be banished.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 31, 2022 01:59 PM (3hSHB)

244 Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison

What a fooking retard.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (3CCua) - at October 31, 2022 02:00 PM (3CCua)

245 What are the odds that we get to hear from DePape?

David Depape did not kill himself.

Posted by: Methos at October 31, 2022 02:00 PM (kOpft)

246 A new, even more disgusting meaning for the phrase "Weinstein film"

*hurrrrk*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 31, 2022 02:00 PM (6FeV1)

247 The War on Terror has come home to roost.

And the left is beside themselves with glee.

Because, they have never read a history book where the totalitarians killed the intellectuals.

So they are sure that they are safe ....

And the bad guys (us evil conservatives) always lose in the books they read ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 31, 2022 02:00 PM (5EnGD)

248 The government gets NO say, except through its own mouthpieces.

The government may not regulate speech, and it can not do indirectly what it cannot do directly.

Anything else's is total abandonment of essential liberty that defines our nation.

If this goes, there is nothing left

There should be an absolute bar , a Chinese wall, between a platform' speech policy and a government message.

Posted by: Sarahw at October 31, 2022 02:01 PM (g1vnC)

249
I don't doubt that the Party & State will lean on any number of people to fund and build a new walled-garden platform for the media (this is who Twitter is for).

It probably won't even take long. They already have the tech knowledge from Twitter, and soon they'll have a large number of its ideological enforcers on the market after layoffs.

But until then - they can't just get off Twitter. For both professional reasons, and because they are addicts. And it'll be fun to see these dull-normal hothouse flowers have to contend with alternate viewpoints for the first time in 15 years.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 31, 2022 02:01 PM (oINRc)

250 Else not else's

Posted by: Sarahw at October 31, 2022 02:01 PM (g1vnC)

251 Here's that Zero Hedge article on the growing transnational socialist global consortium to eradicate speech the transnational socialist globalists find "dangerous." I haven't read it yet, but Greenwald links it, so it's probably worth reading.


And if I find this consortium to be dangerous, can it be eradicated too?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 31, 2022 02:01 PM (anj39)

252 68 if Republicans would stop inciting violence crime might go down

— Jennifer "Pro-privacy" Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) October 30, 2022
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (UuD2k)

Is there anyone more inconsequential than that Rubin creature?

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at October 31, 2022 02:01 PM (Rbu5d)

253 Well then. That means, of course, that it is flatly illegal. The government is not allowed to solicit non-government entities to do on its behalf that which it itself is forbidden by law from doing.

But we're post-law, and so here are.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 31, 2022 01:40 PM (/jZNa)
==
We are worried about Musk's health. Best be worried about Thomas'. This first amendment case is right up his alley. He could drive a stake through the entire city of DC. And I think he might want to.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 31, 2022 02:01 PM (xWZcb)

254 Fucking pigs.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 31, 2022 02:01 PM (9inf2)

255 After next Tuesday we'll never hear "Pelosi Attack" again

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at October 31, 2022 02:02 PM (dzZCL)

256 Facebook's Zuckerberg has lost $100 BILLION dollars of personal wealth in just 13 months. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

He went all-in on creating a VR interface for facebook and shopping that maybe 10% of the population are remotely interested in using. Facebook never had to advertise because it was word of mouth and people were interested in a way to connect with family and friends. And do creepy stuff like look up that girl from high school.

Meta almost nobody wants, and they have to advertise for it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:02 PM (Ivdso)

257 it was Barack Obama on the campaign trail who suggested to his supporters to confront their adversaries and "Get in their faces."

And Obama gave further advice about such confrontations, saying: "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun."


The new normal is "audit their taxes! make public their addresses! send James Hodgkinson or Antifa to do the Fibbies work!"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 31, 2022 02:02 PM (TwFKJ)

258 252 68 if Republicans would stop inciting violence crime might go down

— Jennifer "Pro-privacy" Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) October 30, 2022
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 31, 2022 01:35 PM (UuD2k)

Is there anyone more inconsequential than that Rubin creature?
Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at October 31, 2022 02:01 PM (Rbu5d)

If Jen Rubin would stop being so catastrophically ugly, volcanoes would stop erupting.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 31, 2022 02:03 PM (6FeV1)

259 "What are the odds that we get to hear from DePape?"

After Nov. 8th? 5% chance.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 31, 2022 02:03 PM (qH6FZ)

260 every US Attorney needs to be fired and then prosecuted for conspiring to deny civil rights.

Posted by: x at October 31, 2022 02:03 PM (ZC2go)

261 Civil Rights Violations under color of authority ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 31, 2022 02:03 PM (M+Lyo)

262 >>>The extent to which the DHS initiatives affect Americans' daily social feeds is unclear. During the 2020 election, the government flagged numerous posts as suspicious, many of which were then taken down, documents cited in the Missouri attorney general's lawsuit disclosed.

It was part and parcel.

Twitter suspended The New York Post just ahead of the 2020 election for publishing the story about the existence Hunter Biden’s laptop as per AndyCanuck @37.

Posted by: GOPe Pawn Stars at October 31, 2022 02:03 PM (yHsuS)

263 What are the odds that we get to hear from DePape?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 31, 2022 01:53 PM (flINI)

Why is he still in jail? If you're going to get rid of bail, don't you have to get rid of it for everyone (he asks rhetorically and sarcastically)?
Posted by: Wally at October 31, 2022 01:57 PM (FJYfm)


Rules are for the little people.

Posted by: Speaker of the House Pelosi at October 31, 2022 02:03 PM (Z32m1)

264 Lose faith in the government?
Heaven forfend.
That was me 50 years ago...
At least 1969 or so.

Posted by: gourmand du jour on the eastern seaboard at October 31, 2022 02:03 PM (/6wX0)

265
The new normal is "audit their taxes! make public their addresses! send James Hodgkinson or Antifa to do the Fibbies work!"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 31, 2022 02:02 PM (TwFKJ)

The new one I heard this morning was "Exile this suspicious foreigner back to Africa where he belongs!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 31, 2022 02:04 PM (oINRc)

266 The woman needs to be fired? Don't make me laugh, I have a weak kidney.

Federal Government employees are among the most protected on earth. The get that kind of protection in exchange for not receiving the salaries of their private counterparts.....wait a minute, there goes that kidney again.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 31, 2022 02:04 PM (E6kmg)

267 Speaking of evil:

Breaking: As ordered by Federal Judge Kenneth Hoyt, US Marshals have just taken into custody True the Vote's Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips for contempt of court, due to their refusal to release the name of a confidential informant.

- Ivory Hecker (@IvoryHecker) October 31, 2022

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 31, 2022 02:04 PM (IyrhE)

268 It's really obvious where this is heading, and has been heading for a long time. It's also really obvious Congress will do nothing to stop it.
Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 01:39 PM (sVtYq)
==
I agree.

But something tells me they may not be able control what is coming. At some point you just have to ride with the flow. Realize there are lots of really wealthy powerful people who are just as interested in wiping out other rich and powerful types. The current DC elite has created a huge opening for their own demise. We've all heard about swimming with sharks? Well, the DC elite are now gushing blood in a shark tank.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 31, 2022 02:04 PM (xWZcb)

269 Can always object or strenuously object if that doesn't work.

I can hear the howls of GOPe (BigK and McTurtle) about shuttering *ALL OF THEM* -- the agencies

Posted by: micky at October 31, 2022 02:04 PM (3byMq)

270 The government thought the cost of a table was worth censoring via redaction to "protect sources and methods." I'm sure the misinformation crew is totally righteous in their quest to save democracy.

Posted by: Fool Otto at October 31, 2022 02:04 PM (DB16e)

271
If there's a bustle in your hedgerow
Don't be alarmed now
It's just a spring clean for the visqueen


-- Whadda think Robert?
Not quite there Jimmy.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 31, 2022 01:55 PM (LsEU/)

For just $39.99 you can order our finest MyBustle made from 100% Egyptian Cotton.

Posted by: Mike Lindell at October 31, 2022 02:04 PM (cupoy)

272
What a fooking retard.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (3CCua) - at October 31, 2022 02:00 PM (3CCua)


Bif, i might be mistaken, but I think the Intrepid Democratic guy is on our side. I remember him saying once that he willingly goes into those forums to report what they are saying about the topics we are reading. My blood pressure can barely handling reading our stuff, there is no way I would read any of their material.

Posted by: Moki at October 31, 2022 02:05 PM (JrN/x)

273 It's kind of surreal and Peak 2020 to be citing Glenn Greenwald when a decade or more back, I was right along with the others on this blog, making fun of him and his sock puppets at Glenn's site.

Posted by: Blanco at October 31, 2022 02:05 PM (Ay9RF)

274 Fucking pigs.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 31, 2022 02:01 PM (9inf2)

Threadwinner.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 02:05 PM (yHsuS)

275 I like legal flag burning - i want to know who the traitors are.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 31, 2022 02:05 PM (LuJTM)

276 After Nov. 8th? 5% chance.
Posted by: lowandslow at October 31, 2022 02:03 PM (qH6FZ)
=============
In his suicide note maybe

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 31, 2022 02:05 PM (TwFKJ)

277 The ugly truth is that a lot of those so-called "Bernie-Bros" were really QMAGAts in disguise.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 31, 2022 01:54 PM (nbJyt)
---
And the parties switched in 1968!

And...and...whatever convenient reclassification we need to blame you!

I called it!

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 02:06 PM (krQz2)

278 One idea is to allow gov. actors to add comment on posts - like that shit youtube and twitter do telling you to suck WHO dick whenever you say something about covid.

It would be nice to see what gov. thinks is a lie, just to confirm what truths they are afraid of.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 31, 2022 02:07 PM (LuJTM)

279 The new one I heard this morning was "Exile this suspicious foreigner back to Africa where he belongs!"
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 31, 2022 02:04 PM (oINRc)
===============
Yeah, there is no "too far" for the left. Ace is being overly polite up top.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 31, 2022 02:07 PM (TwFKJ)

280 My view on Flag Burning was less nuanced. Flag Burning was a physical act, not act of speech. You can burn the Flag as long as I can burn you too.
Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 01:52 PM (Z32m1)


I see it a bit differently.
I pledged allegiance to the flag. But if someone wants to burn it, they become someone I will never like, befriend, or trust.
But if they burn a copy of the Constitution, they become my enemy.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 31, 2022 02:07 PM (anj39)

281 >>But something tells me they may not be able control what is coming. At some point you just have to ride with the flow. Realize there are lots of really wealthy powerful people who are just as interested in wiping out other rich and powerful types. The current DC elite has created a huge opening for their own demise. We've all heard about swimming with sharks? Well, the DC elite are now gushing blood in a shark tank.

One of them is named Elon. Anyone who thinks he didn't know he was not just buying a company but going to war with the DC elite is kidding themselves. He picked this fight because he actually seems to believe in free speech a lot more than many of our so called elites.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2022 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)

282 Poor poor girl who willingly went to HW's room (after a previous encounter), willingly took her clothes off, willingly laid on his bed, and willingly let him jizz on her face and tits (because, as she stated, it worked out so well for Gwyneth). Poor, poor girl. The check bounced.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 31, 2022 02:08 PM (UUCk+)

283 I am totally a free-speech hero and example to others!

Just don't ask Roseanne Barr....

Posted by: Glen Greenwald at October 31, 2022 02:09 PM (AD14M)

284 I like legal flag burning - i want to know who the traitors are.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 31, 2022 02:05 PM (LuJTM)

Some flags are more equal than others.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 02:09 PM (yHsuS)

285 Kate Upton - 'Bunker Fuel'.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 31, 2022 02:09 PM (3Or4S)

286 We have caught up to the Russian Communists

Posted by: Skip's phonep at October 31, 2022 02:09 PM (xhxe8)

287 "facebook.com/xtakedowns/login"

Need to be an 'onboarded partner' to get in. Nuts.


4chan was probably in minutes after the existence was made public.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 31, 2022 02:10 PM (nfrXX)

288 So, this is just the tip of the iceberg, isn't it?

I mean, this is preliminary discover.

We've not even gotten to the targeted discovery based on these responses.

And depositions are looming...

Watch for a huge wave of "you are innocent even if you plead the Fifth!" stories to flip on a dime the Trump years narrative.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 31, 2022 02:10 PM (5EnGD)

289 Lose faith in the government?
Heaven forfend.
That was me 50 years ago...
At least 1969 or so.
Posted by: gourmand du jour on the eastern seaboard at October 31, 2022 02:03 PM (/6wX0)


This.
Who got relieved after Tet?
Who got relieved after Afghanistan?
A shitload of three and four stars have a lot to answer for.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 31, 2022 02:10 PM (anj39)

290 Red state governors and AGs better start prepping for battle.

Posted by: mr tmz at October 31, 2022 02:10 PM (rJ48h)

291 The government is not allowed to solicit non-government entities to do on its behalf that which it itself is forbidden by law from doing.

@Joe: Unfortunately, it's not that big a deal. What this boils down to is two things: admissibility of evidence and Section 1983. If someone (like a cellmate) is working with the police and the police have him interrogate a suspect in a manner that would violate Miranda if they did it, then the person's testimony against that suspect might be ruled inadmissible at a criminal trial. That's it. On Section 1983, the government can violate someone's civil rights by acting through a non-government actor; the penalty is that the government (i.e., the taxpayers) might pay damages and there might be an injunction that they could violate pretty much with impunity. Reaching any of these government actors personally is theoretically possible, but very unlikely. So there's not really much to stop a government official from doing whatever the hell he wants to do.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 31, 2022 02:10 PM (7B5FA)

292 And it'll be fun to see these dull-normal hothouse flowers have to contend with alternate viewpoints for the first time in 15 years.

that it will

Posted by: kallisto at October 31, 2022 02:10 PM (dCxaZ)

293 All the TopMen that pushed the BigLie of Trump Russia for 5-6 years knew damn well it was not a "noble lie", it was a lie to retain power and damage (if not convict on their false charges) a duly elected president.

Their fear is that their criminal acts will become so well known that someone might stop them. That someone might have been Donald Trump, but the FBI/MFM/DOJ and foreign governments and banksters all agree with Strzok ... "we will stop him".

Posted by: illiniwek at October 31, 2022 02:10 PM (Cus5s)

294 If Jen Rubin would stop being so catastrophically ugly, volcanoes would stop erupting.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 31, 2022 02:03 PM (6FeV1)


Finally, someone gets it!

Posted by: Volcanoes at October 31, 2022 02:11 PM (FJYfm)

295 Remember to not burn the Mexico flag because that will get you thrown in jail.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 31, 2022 02:11 PM (u4CEu)

296 DHS's mission to fight disinformation,
---
What's their track record been against the FIB?

I don't think so.

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 02:11 PM (krQz2)

297 One of them is named Elon. Anyone who thinks he didn't know he was not just buying a company but going to war with the DC elite is kidding themselves. He picked this fight because he actually seems to believe in free speech a lot more than many of our so called elites.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2022 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)

This, by all appearances. But he has the capacity to be converted. If his vision for his X platform proves to be all that he hopes, it could be a Trojan Horse for China style social credit. So trust, but verity, on steroids.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 02:11 PM (yHsuS)

298 The Intercept: Government -- the FBI, In Particular -- Is Pressuring Social Media Platforms to Push Official US Propaganda on Origins of Covid

When you talk about fundamental things that are *known* to be true like the lab origins of COVID, a lot of LIVs say things to me like, "What is there some sort of conspiracy to censor people that say what you are telling me now?"

Well. Yes. Yes there is.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 31, 2022 02:11 PM (ESjRY)

299 Heh, She Hulk got nominated for a People's Choice award, all part of the publicity package.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:11 PM (Ivdso)

300 DHS issued an terror advisory over the weekend, fretting about lefty political violence after the election. Well, really, they talk about "domestic political violence" as if there is some me-too sides to it, but we all know who shoots and who gets shot, at least so far.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 31, 2022 02:12 PM (TwFKJ)

301
The new normal is "audit their taxes! make public their addresses! send James Hodgkinson or Antifa to do the Fibbies work!"
Posted by: Huck Follywood
---------

I.e., deploy the flying monkeys.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 31, 2022 02:12 PM (BqFOC)

302 Sound files of the DePapening:

https://tinyurl.com/4y4rhe7k

Posted by: kallisto at October 31, 2022 02:12 PM (dCxaZ)

303 We here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom; and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Sumdood Lincoln

Well that notion should be soundly put to rest since at least 2009 but certainly in the revelations of what has transpired during Trumps years.

There is the Government.
There is US.
There is no connection between the two other than that we occupy space that the government considers theirs.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 31, 2022 02:12 PM (FCbAQ)

304 They interviewed his pedophile girlfriend at whatever correctional facility she was locked up in. She agreed DePape was a crazy leftist POS.

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 02:13 PM (Z32m1)

305 This is totally what people who won an election fairly and honestly would do, isn't it?

Truth doesn't need censorship to protect it: Lies do.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 31, 2022 02:13 PM (5EnGD)

306 Remember to not burn the Mexico flag because that will get you thrown in jail.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 31, 2022 02:11 PM (u4CEu)

Mexico flag, Buggistan flag, what's the difference?

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 02:13 PM (yHsuS)

307 It's funny that #pelosigaylover is trending on Twatterz and has been for a while. Pre-Elon, never would they let that happen.

Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 02:13 PM (sVtYq)

308 "The United States government is the bravest, kindest, warmest, most wonderful government I've ever known in my life" said no one but an NPC ever. The main reason not to burn this shithouse to the ground these days is the pure humor factor. Clown World is freaking hilarious, a non-stop open mic night.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 31, 2022 02:13 PM (nMx88)

309 It's kind of surreal and Peak 2020 to be citing Glenn Greenwald when a decade or more back, I was right along with the others on this blog, making fun of him and his sock puppets at Glenn's site.

The question in looking at a news source is "are they getting it right?" and...Greenwald's recent record is solid.

Its also amusing to see one of the other top news sources of the last few years is...ZeroHedge

Posted by: 18-1 at October 31, 2022 02:13 PM (ESjRY)

310 Another hobbyhorse.

On a grander level, the US has disintegrated families and communities, and that makes social platforms more important. You can't hear reality at the dinner table or corner pub.

Other countries are much less affected by this problem

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 31, 2022 02:14 PM (LuJTM)

311 Heh, She Hulk got nominated for a People's Choice award, all part of the publicity package.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:11 PM (Ivdso)

Unless "She Hulk" has Tank Abrams in the title role, it's inauthentic.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 31, 2022 02:14 PM (CL4kO)

312 Remember to not burn the Mexico flag because that will get you thrown in jail.

--

Or a BLM flag. Or a LGBTQ flag.

Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 02:15 PM (sVtYq)

313 The problem we face is that everything is WW2 against Nazis for the left.

They see that as the structure for world power and action, for politics and survival. And the radical left has become convinced that climate change is the DOOM OF THE FUTURE unless we ALL TAKE ACTION NOW for our survival! This is a conflict that transcends law and ethics! It is all or nothing!

For such a dire, desperate absolute struggle, there are no holds barred, we must do everything to survive and put off this vague, undefined, nebulous future doom that always is 100 years out. LOOK AT THE SACRIFICES THE GREATEST GENERATION MADE TO FIGHT HITLER, can you not make the same sacrifices to save our children from climate doom? Look at what FDR did to fight the evil of the Nazis, WE ARE IN THE SAME STRUGGLE NOW and his deeds were justified by the end goal just like their deeds now!!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:15 PM (Ivdso)

314 272
What a fooking retard. (Referring to me)
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (3CCua) - at October 31, 2022 02:00 PM (3CCua)


Bif, i might be mistaken, but I think the Intrepid Democratic guy is on our side. I remember him saying once that he willingly goes into those forums to report what they are saying about the topics we are reading.
Posted by: Moki at October 31, 2022 02:05 PM

Moki is correct. I post snippets of the most extreme insanity from the left for our amusement, and so we never forget how much they hate us. The mental hoops to go through to blame the Scalise shooting AND Pelosi hammering on Republicans is...frightening. Heads I win, tails you lose levels of nonsense.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 31, 2022 02:15 PM (JCZqz)

315
The question in looking at a news source is "are they getting it right?" and...Greenwald's recent record is solid.

. . .

Posted by: 18-1 at October 31, 2022 02:13 PM (ESjRY)


I've been watching his posts and reading him now and again.. He's been on target despite being a liberal (but not a progressive, as odd as that may sound)

Posted by: Blanco at October 31, 2022 02:16 PM (Ay9RF)

316 They interviewed his pedophile girlfriend at whatever correctional facility she was locked up in. She agreed DePape was a crazy leftist POS.

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 02:13 PM (Z32m1)

Was she locked up for pedophilia? NYPost mentioned something about pedophilia friend, but they did not elaborate, nor did they link to something substantiating it.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 02:16 PM (yHsuS)

317 And if I find this consortium to be dangerous, can it be eradicated too?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 31, 2022 02:01 PM (anj39)
==
We took a vote. It passed. Let us know how it turns out.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 31, 2022 02:16 PM (xWZcb)

318 If you go to the FBI's FB page it's still mostly about 1/6.
They are probably colluding with ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC to keep pushing 1/6 .
Up until last week you couldn't get on those pages without being inundated with 1/6 stories. Now it's mostly the midterms with a few 1/6 stories sprinkled in.
No doubt 1/6 stories will be back after next week.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 31, 2022 02:16 PM (NpAcC)

319 The funny thing is that the British, in the end, became so cruel lipped and vicious to the colonialist that they didn't even try and pretend that outlawing the right to assemble and curbing free speech was for their own good - in the end it was, get this, "treason and insurrection!"

You can finally get to the point where you don't think you have to be nice about it, you feel so disconnected from those you hate that you get past the excuses and go straight for the thrill of being a tyrant to your enemies. That cruelty, more than anything else in my opinion - led to our rebellion against them.

Posted by: Boswell at October 31, 2022 02:16 PM (+Cgut)

320 294 If Jen Rubin would stop being so catastrophically ugly, volcanoes would stop erupting.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 31, 2022 02:03 PM (6FeV1)

Has she demonstrated insanity again?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 31, 2022 02:16 PM (eGTCV)

321
Greenwald was and remains a silly person. Listen to him talk at length, and it's pretty obvious that he's no deep thinker.

But in this day and age, it doesn't take much to stand out from the pack in the media, and it basically comes down to being "not a piece of shit." Not being a piece of shit takes a measure of moral courage in that environment.

So Greenwald stands out. So does Taibbi. Liberals of yore, *juuust* dumb enough to have meant what they said about civil liberties, but not see that none of their friends did.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 31, 2022 02:17 PM (oINRc)

322 Forgotten 80's Mystery Click...

https://tinyurl.com/y35khmvz

This Frozen Ghost almost hit is more relevant now than it ever was then!!!

Posted by: Mr. Right at October 31, 2022 02:17 PM (Rewwz)

323 Moki is correct. I post snippets of the most extreme insanity from the left for our amusement, and so we never forget how much they hate us. The mental hoops to go through to blame the Scalise shooting AND Pelosi hammering on Republicans is...frightening. Heads I win, tails you lose levels of nonsense.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison


Our version of "Libs of TikTok". Slogging through the stupid so we don't have to.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at October 31, 2022 02:17 PM (OUMaO)

324 YOU VILL THINK ZEE RIGHT THOTZ!!!
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 31, 2022 01:27 PM (wtvvX)

Thots?!? I'm gonna need pictures, preferably with some sideboob and very tight undergarments. A back story would be nice too.

Posted by: Thirsty thirsty Incel at October 31, 2022 02:17 PM (FCbAQ)

325 285 Kate Upton - 'Bunker Fuel'.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 31, 2022 02:09 PM (3Or4S)

I realize the play on words, but...

She's high octane dragster fuel!

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 31, 2022 02:17 PM (BgMrQ)

326 Sound files of the DePapening:

https://tinyurl.com/4y4rhe7k
Posted by: kallisto at October 31, 2022 02:12 PM (dCxaZ)


The tape I really want to hear is the original 911 call from Pelosi or whoever actually called.

The local news here seem to be able to get and broadcast a copy of ours in a news story within 24-72 hours. You think someone would have it by now in a "National" news story?

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 02:17 PM (Z32m1)

327 My view on Flag Burning was less nuanced. Flag Burning was a physical act, not act of speech. You can burn the Flag as long as I can burn you too.
Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 01:52 PM (Z32m1)

---
Well, I agree--up to the point about burning other people.
But I think that why can't I have the "free expression" of starting a fire with my lunch bag in a public place?

In order to create the "free expression" by burning, they had to silence not-as-likely "free expressions" of people burning things that weren't symbolic.

Which means that at the same time as arguing that burning was "free expression", they were still drastically limiting those things you could burn *as* expression.

Why can't public urination be "free expression"? Why can't you piss on a flag as well as burn it? Then why can't I piss on city hall? The cop station? A stop sign?

The fuzzy-headedness of Democratic politics has been putting us on a course for destruction.

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 02:17 PM (krQz2)

328 Try burning a rainbow flag and see how free your speech really is.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 31, 2022 02:18 PM (5+oWt)

329 The tape I really want to hear is the original 911 call from Pelosi or whoever actually called.

--

Was a wellness check called on him...or was he calling for a wellness check for his underweared "friend?"

Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 02:18 PM (sVtYq)

330 319 The funny thing is that the British, in the end, became so cruel lipped and vicious to the colonialist that they didn't even try and pretend that outlawing the right to assemble and curbing free speech was for their own good - in the end it was, get this, "treason and insurrection!"

You can finally get to the point where you don't think you have to be nice about it, you feel so disconnected from those you hate that you get past the excuses and go straight for the thrill of being a tyrant to your enemies. That cruelty, more than anything else in my opinion - led to our rebellion against them.
Posted by: Boswell at October 31, 2022 02:16 PM (+Cgut)

The guys making the calls lived on an island an ocean away.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 31, 2022 02:19 PM (eYoxG)

331 Broken Peach - The Night Of The Halloween Specials

https://youtu.be/UjdSoCdWe58

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 02:19 PM (yHsuS)

332 So Greenwald stands out. So does Taibbi. Liberals of yore, *juuust* dumb enough to have meant what they said about civil liberties, but not see that none of their friends did.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 31, 2022 02:17 PM (oINRc)
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Well said.

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 02:19 PM (krQz2)

333 But in this day and age, it doesn't take much to stand out from the pack in the media, and it basically comes down to being "not a piece of shit." Not being a piece of shit takes a measure of moral courage in that environment.

Right. Its like people praising films such as Maverick or Black Adam. Its not that they are so outstanding in and of themselves, its that they didn't suck and didn't offend and attack their audience (mostly).

Guys like Gleen aren't superior in and of themselves, but by comparison, its like comparing the average guy in Idiocracy with the retards he woke up surrounded by.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:19 PM (Ivdso)

334 Try burning a rainbow flag and see how free your speech really is.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 31, 2022 02:18 PM (5+oWt)
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(Mic drop)

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 02:20 PM (krQz2)

335 >>> 152 Who would have thought in mid to late 00s that Glenn Greenwald will turn out to be one of 5he good guys. I remember him being lampooned here for sockpuppeting.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 31, 2022 01:47 PM (3JfbU)

What's wrong with using socks?

Posted by: Not Glenn Greenwald at October 31, 2022 02:20 PM (llON8)

336 Thots?!? I'm gonna need pictures, preferably with some sideboob and very tight undergarments. A back story would be nice too.
Posted by: Thirsty thirsty Incel at October 31, 2022 02:17 PM (FCbAQ)

https://tinyurl.com/3hxcbpjy

No back story needed...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 31, 2022 02:20 PM (BgMrQ)

337 The guys making the calls lived on an island an ocean away.

Hey I saw The Patriot and RRR, Brits are the most evil people on the planet, completely cartoonish moustache-twirling villains for no purpose or meaning, without any goals except how to be terrible to colonials a new way.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:20 PM (Ivdso)

338 Yeah, burning the flag is a right, but what about that preacher burning the Koran in Florida?

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 02:20 PM (krQz2)

339 CBS is pushing this-
Poll finds broad support in battleground states for legalizing unauthorized immigrants

https://tinyurl.com/4s9rhb99

Posted by: redridinghood at October 31, 2022 02:20 PM (NpAcC)

340 Try burning a rainbow flag and see how free your speech really is.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 31, 2022 02:18 PM (5+oWt)

Well, I'd have to steal one to burn it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 31, 2022 02:20 PM (CL4kO)

341 >>> 323 Moki is correct. I post snippets of the most extreme insanity from the left for our amusement, and so we never forget how much they hate us. The mental hoops to go through to blame the Scalise shooting AND Pelosi hammering on Republicans is...frightening. Heads I win, tails you lose levels of nonsense.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison

Our version of "Libs of TikTok". Slogging through the stupid so we don't have to.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at October 31, 2022 02:17 PM (OUMaO)

*holds up card*

2.1

Zees comment is nein gut.

Posted by: East German Judge at October 31, 2022 02:21 PM (llON8)

342 323
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison

Our version of "Libs of TikTok". Slogging through the stupid so we don't have to.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at October 31, 2022 02:17 PM

You'll notice in my first post, they shit on Bernie supporters a lot. It's amazing how much the hardcore Dems, just as far left as Bernie, hate him because he's not a Democrat.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 31, 2022 02:21 PM (JCZqz)

343 Poll finds broad support in battleground states for legalizing unauthorized immigrants

Aka: How can we fool candidates into pushing for amnesty today?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:22 PM (Ivdso)

344 337 "The guys making the calls lived on an island an ocean away."

Hey I saw The Patriot and RRR, Brits are the most evil people on the planet, completely cartoonish moustache-twirling villains for no purpose or meaning, without any goals except how to be terrible to colonials a new way.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:20 PM (Ivdso)

It's easy to be thoughtlessly terrible to abstract people at a great distance. Doesn't mean they're not being terrible, though it does put a crimp in the mustache-twirling.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 31, 2022 02:22 PM (eYoxG)

345
Was a wellness check called on him...or was he calling for a wellness check for his underweared "friend?"
Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 02:18 PM (sVtYq)


How humiliating it would be if one of the house staff called the cops to say "the boss is arguing with a prostitute again, and this time I think it is serious, can you check it out?"

Posted by: Kindltot at October 31, 2022 02:22 PM (xhaym)

346 Kills me burn a Intersectionaly Flag and it's prison
Burn mine and it's free speech

Posted by: Skip's phonep at October 31, 2022 02:22 PM (xhxe8)

347 342 You'll notice in my first post, they shit on Bernie supporters a lot. It's amazing how much the hardcore Dems, just as far left as Bernie, hate him because he's not a Democrat.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 31, 2022 02:21 PM (JCZqz)

=========

He cost them 2016 somehow, even though Putin worked with Trump to change vote totals in Michigan voting machines.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 31, 2022 02:23 PM (LvTSG)

348 Well, I'd have to steal one to burn it.

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Since he's tied up at the moment, maybe you can borrow Depape's.

Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 02:23 PM (sVtYq)

349 You'll notice in my first post, they shit on Bernie supporters a lot. It's amazing how much the hardcore Dems, just as far left as Bernie, hate him because he's not a Democrat.

A lot of Dems are in it for the will to power aspects rather than as a coherent ideology.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 31, 2022 02:23 PM (ZGrMX)

350 DOOM OF THE FUTURE unless we ALL TAKE ACTION NOW for our survival!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Speech given during some 10k mile junket to a "conference" at a 5 star resort.

Sure, you first.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 31, 2022 02:23 PM (LuJTM)

351 Try burning a rainbow flag and see how free your speech really is.

A guy took someone else's rainbow flag and burned it in...Kansas?...and he got 19 years in jail.

Average sentence in the US for murder is about 6 years.



Posted by: 18-1 at October 31, 2022 02:23 PM (ESjRY)

352 Was she locked up for pedophilia? NYPost mentioned something about pedophilia friend, but they did not elaborate, nor did they link to something substantiating it. Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 02:16 PM (yHsuS)

She was locked up for kidnapping. I think the gist of the story is that the teenager she had the hots for finally came over (weed may have been involved) and she wouldn't let him leave.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 31, 2022 02:23 PM (7B5FA)

353 >>The people that were saying "who cares about Twitter, I don't use it!" really have no idea just how important a communication tool echo chamber it has become.
Posted by: Blago


well I used to use it up to a couple years ago, when it just got so ugly. Plus Twitter was shoving so much unwanted content into my feed, it just became a hassle to use it. Don't miss it at all.

Posted by: DB at October 31, 2022 02:23 PM (geLO8)

354 The funny thing is that the British, in the end, became so cruel lipped and vicious to the colonialist that they didn't even try and pretend that outlawing the right to assemble and curbing free speech was for their own good - in the end it was, get this, "treason and insurrection!"

You can finally get to the point where you don't think you have to be nice about it, you feel so disconnected from those you hate that you get past the excuses and go straight for the thrill of being a tyrant to your enemies. That cruelty, more than anything else in my opinion - led to our rebellion against them.
Posted by: Boswell at October 31, 2022 02:16 PM (+Cgut)

I have a different take, that the Boston Massacre for example was to the FF descriptive of who the British were, and to the British it was a one-time temporarily embarrassing event.

Not even disagreement whether they were good or bad, just whether they were to be quickly forgotten, or held for years as demanding an answer.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 31, 2022 02:24 PM (44ww/)

355 The question in looking at a news source is "are they getting it right?" and...Greenwald's recent record is solid.

Its also amusing to see one of the other top news sources of the last few years is...ZeroHedge
Posted by: 18-1 at October 31, 2022 02:13 PM (ESjRY)


Ten years before That? It was "The National Enquirer." They broke the Monica Lewinsky Blue Dress story. They broke the John Edwards Baby Mama Story too.

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 02:24 PM (Z32m1)

356 CBS is pushing this-
Poll finds broad support in battleground states for legalizing unauthorized immigrants

https://tinyurl.com/4s9rhb99
Posted by: redridinghood at October 31, 2022 02:20 PM (NpAcC)
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No way do I believe that. There has been so much polling on that topic - no one except rich lefties social posturing for their friends wants them to remain.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 31, 2022 02:24 PM (xWZcb)

357 Thar be dragons amongst us.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 31, 2022 02:24 PM (Xrfse)

358 The Greenwald piece is outstanding. I think there is a second reason as to why there is a frenzy to censor so much, though: the United States government is worried allies and adversaries might realize how shoddy, corrupt and shaky it has become. The fact they think this isn't already apparent outside our borders is terrifying.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 31, 2022 02:24 PM (nMx88)

359 You'll notice in my first post, they shit on Bernie supporters a lot. It's amazing how much the hardcore Dems, just as far left as Bernie, hate him because he's not a Democrat.

A lot of Dems are in it for the will to power aspects rather than as a coherent ideology.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 31, 2022 02:23 PM (ZGrMX)

Bernie/Leftists is of the same manner of schism as MAGA/GOPe. Bernie bros would put the softer leftists against the wall first.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 02:25 PM (yHsuS)

360 I have a different take, that the Boston Massacre for example was to the FF descriptive of who the British were, and to the British it was a one-time temporarily embarrassing event.

Not even disagreement whether they were good or bad, just whether they were to be quickly forgotten, or held for years as demanding an answer.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 31, 2022 02:24 PM (44ww/)

It'd be different if it happened in the middle of London. This mentality is pretty common though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 31, 2022 02:25 PM (eYoxG)

361
A lot of Dems are in it for the will to power aspects rather than as a coherent ideology.


You've got hardcore "antiwar" leftists from the 00s calling for a nuclear first strike on Russia right now.

These people believe in *NOTHING* outside of power.

Oh, and remember Cindy Sheehan? Obama threw her in jail when she wouldn't stop protesting after he got elected.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 31, 2022 02:25 PM (ESjRY)

362 Since he's tied up at the moment, maybe you can borrow Depape's.
Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 02:23 PM (sVtYq)

DePape tied up? Kinky!

Posted by: Paul Pelosi at October 31, 2022 02:25 PM (CL4kO)

363 Poll finds broad support in battleground states for legalizing unauthorized immigrants
________

New term is "unauthorized immigrants". Update your Newspeak dictionary accordingly.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 31, 2022 02:25 PM (fs1hN)

364 I have a different take, that the Boston Massacre for example was to the FF descriptive of who the British were, and to the British it was a one-time temporarily embarrassing event.

Not even disagreement whether they were good or bad, just whether they were to be quickly forgotten, or held for years as demanding an answer.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 31, 2022 02:24 PM (44ww/)


A lot of people look at Waco and Ruby Ridge the same way today.

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 02:26 PM (Z32m1)

365 The gaslighting is at eleventy.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 31, 2022 02:26 PM (Xrfse)

366 "We have never denied elections! Also, W stole 2000 and 2004! And Trump stole 2016! And the 2010 elections were definitely suspect!"
-The Left

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 31, 2022 02:26 PM (LvTSG)

367 One of the greatest evils ever perpetrated in the justice system was the creation of "hate crime" laws. These laws not only made penalties worse for acts against some people, but made other legal actions illegal if they upset certain people.

In other countries this is called royalty: people for whom different rules apply and new rules are created to protect them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:26 PM (Ivdso)

368 She was locked up for kidnapping. I think the gist of the story is that the teenager she had the hots for finally came over (weed may have been involved) and she wouldn't let him leave.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 31, 2022 02:23 PM (7B5FA)

Thanks. No depravity would surprise me. I just wondered how much was confirmed.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 02:26 PM (yHsuS)

369
Am I the only guy on the plant that found RRR boring?

I fell asleep trying to watch it twice. Maybe the good parts came later, but -

between the endless talking and whinging and the cartoon villainy of the Limeys, I'd get about 20 minutes in and nod off.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 31, 2022 02:26 PM (KLPy8)

370 I don't understand why neverTrumpers went straight from not liking Donald Trump to being too far left crazy for Pol Pot.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (eGTCV)

371 I watched this special on Snowden, recently.

And I kind of buy that he saw this government collusion with social media and 24-7 blanket *spying*, and saw it as his *patriotic* duty to narc on the federal government.

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (krQz2)

372 plant = planet

Stupid fingers!

Posted by: naturalfake at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (KLPy8)

373 A lot of people look at Waco and Ruby Ridge the same way today.

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 02:26 PM (Z32m1)

1/6 is looking that way.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (yHsuS)

374 356 CBS is pushing this-
Poll finds broad support in battleground states for legalizing unauthorized immigrants

https://tinyurl.com/4s9rhb99
Posted by: redridinghood at October 31, 2022 02:20 PM (NpAcC)
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No way do I believe that. There has been so much polling on that topic - no one except rich lefties social posturing for their friends wants them to remain.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 31, 2022 02:24 PM (xWZcb)

Hispanics, especially, perhaps, want borders controlled and illegals stopped. CBS realizes the easily fooled and thoroughly corrupt GOP is about to take power and is signaling the Republicans can and should grant a mass amnesty. The GOP is stupid and venal enough to do that, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (nMx88)

375 what is RRR

Posted by: DB at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (geLO8)

376 Straight out of the leftist playbook.

(1) Our opponents are not just wrong, they are evil.

(2) Ergo, by any means neccesary.

Posted by: RM at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (0eYOS)

377 > Hey I saw The Patriot and RRR, Brits are the most evil people on the planet, completely cartoonish moustache-twirling villains for no purpose or meaning, without any goals except how to be terrible to colonials a new way.

Yeah, that scene where they locked people in a church and burned them alive? The Brits never did that.

NAZIs did it in WWII.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (eyxn4)

378 This woman must be fired. Half of the FBI must be fired, and the CIA, NSA, and DOJ too.

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You misspelled "All."

Just to be sure ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (Lz2BG)

379 I have a different take, that the Boston Massacre for example was to the FF descriptive of who the British were, and to the British it was a one-time temporarily embarrassing event.

The thing is, many British people, including those in power and in nobility, were outraged and horrified by that event. Its super easy to just figure every single part of a group is evil because some of them are, because that makes it easier in human minds and souls to attack and fight them. But its almost never the case.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:28 PM (Ivdso)

380 369
Am I the only guy on the plant that found RRR boring?

I fell asleep trying to watch it twice. Maybe the good parts came later, but -

between the endless talking and whinging and the cartoon villainy of the Limeys, I'd get about 20 minutes in and nod off.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 31, 2022 02:26 PM (KLPy

Didn't watch the show but read some of the books. The conspiracies and drama/tension around them could be interesting but otherwise not too remarkable.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 31, 2022 02:28 PM (eYoxG)

381 CBS realizes the easily fooled and thoroughly corrupt GOP is about to take power and is signaling the Republicans can and should grant a mass amnesty. The GOP is stupid and venal enough to do that, too.

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Oh, I expect worse. I expect mass amnesty in the period oh, say, November 2022 to January 2023.

Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 02:28 PM (sVtYq)

382 I watched this special on Snowden, recently.

And I kind of buy that he saw this government collusion with social media and 24-7 blanket *spying*, and saw it as his *patriotic* duty to narc on the federal government.

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (krQz2)

I have come around on Snowden from my initial patriotic "traitor" assessment.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 02:28 PM (yHsuS)

383 I have a different take, that the Boston Massacre for example was to the FF descriptive of who the British were, and to the British it was a one-time temporarily embarrassing event.

Not even disagreement whether they were good or bad, just whether they were to be quickly forgotten, or held for years as demanding an answer.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 31, 2022 02:24 PM (44ww/)
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That was pushed totally for propaganda purposes. Of course lots of things were. John Adams defended them in trial at Boston and got most of them off, demonstrating to Britain the rule of law worked here. And he took lots of flack for doing it.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 31, 2022 02:28 PM (xWZcb)

384 Just for laughs, how much of COVID stuff labeled "misinformation" turned out to be correct?

Misinformation in 2021: The jab doesn't stop the spread

Misinformation in 2022: Anyone that claims that we said the jab stops the spread

Posted by: 18-1 at October 31, 2022 02:28 PM (ESjRY)

385 >>> 224 This woman must be fired. Half of the FBI must be fired, and the CIA, NSA, and DOJ too.
*
Just half?
Posted by: Hungry Moron at October 31, 2022
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Half, then half of the remainder.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 31, 2022 01:41 PM (J2vNu)

Three groups need to be fired:
1. Anyone who violated the Constitution/laws.
2. Anyone who knew/suspected someone was in group 1 and did nothing about it.
3. Anyone who was too stupid to realize that a significant fraction of their agency fell into groups 1/2.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 31, 2022 01:57 PM (GYIa4)

I used to have a different nic Johnson is right!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 02:28 PM (llON8)

386 Poll finds broad support in battleground states for legalizing unauthorized immigrants
________

New term is "unauthorized immigrants". Update your Newspeak dictionary accordingly.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 31, 2022 02:25 PM (fs1hN)
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Meanwhile, some people are still held in jail for not being authorized to be on Capitol grounds....

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 02:29 PM (krQz2)

387 I have a different take, that the Boston Massacre for example was to the FF descriptive of who the British were, and to the British it was a one-time temporarily embarrassing event.

Not even disagreement whether they were good or bad, just whether they were to be quickly forgotten, or held for years as demanding an answer.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 31, 2022 02:24 PM (44ww/)

It'd be different if it happened in the middle of London. This mentality is pretty common though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 31, 2022 02:25 PM (eYoxG)


Because it happened in a "colony." It could have been India (and it was dozens of times), Canada, or the Caribbean. No big deal. It was not "Real Englishmen."

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 02:29 PM (Z32m1)

388
Space Daddy just dissolved Twitter's Board of Directors, making himself sole director. Or Chief Twit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 31, 2022 02:29 PM (Mzdiz)

389 The man who shot Steve Scalise Was not motivated by the words, deeds and actions of Democrats or Liberals. He was motivated by the words, deeds and actions of Republicans and conservatives.

The man who attacked Mr Pelosi was not motivated by the words, deeds and actions of Democrats and Liberals. He was motivated by the words, deeds and actions of Republicans and Conservatives.

Evil resides on only one side of the aisle. ...
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 31, 2022 01:54 PM (nbJyt)
++++
Heads I win, tails you lose. I wonder if the person who posted that understands the logical problem he just created, or that he's the equivalent of the wife-beater who's punching his woman in the face while screaming, "WHY DO YOU KEEP MAKING ME DO THIS TO YOU?!?!?!?!"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 31, 2022 02:29 PM (/jZNa)

390 Of course, the Deep State is real.

Of all the conspiracy theories to deny that one was the least "far-fetched."

FTR, I don't think any conspiracies are far-fetched.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 31, 2022 02:29 PM (DcKNO)

391 Bernie/Leftists is of the same manner of schism as MAGA/GOPe. Bernie bros would put the softer leftists against the wall first.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 02:25 PM (yHsuS)


A lot of the Bernie Bros seem to have voted for Ron Paul previously, and I think it had a lot to do with thinking the system was rigged and they needed someone or something different.
So very much like MAGA/GOPe split but remember the hardcore leftists are the core of the Democrats, not the Bernie Bros who are left out in the cold

Posted by: Kindltot at October 31, 2022 02:30 PM (xhaym)

392 RRR is a very enjoyable, spectacular action film out of India. As typical for Indian movies they ignore physics at least part of the time and its over the top, but you'll see sequences you have never seen before, and its really beautiful and amazing to watch. Its one of those "switch off your brain and grin" movies that Hollywood used to know how to make and it has some pretty clever plot twists.

It does feel kinda queer in some parts, but I think that's a cultural disconnect.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:30 PM (Ivdso)

393 Meanwhile, some people are still held in jail for not being authorized to be on Capitol grounds....

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Unauthorized paraders!

Posted by: Lady in a Black Hat at October 31, 2022 02:30 PM (sVtYq)

394 >> how much of COVID stuff labeled "misinformation" turned out to be correct?

Pretty much all of it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 31, 2022 02:30 PM (Mzdiz)

395 Three groups need to be fired:
1. Anyone who violated the Constitution/laws.
2. Anyone who knew/suspected someone was in group 1 and did nothing about it.
3. Anyone who was too stupid to realize that a significant fraction of their agency fell into groups 1/2.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 31, 2022 01:57 PM (GYIa4)
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Scott Friend IS the FBI!

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 02:30 PM (krQz2)

396 The man who attacked Mr Pelosi was not motivated by the words, deeds and actions of Democrats and Liberals. He was motivated by the words, deeds and actions of Republicans and Conservatives.

I think he was motivated by Paul asking him if he could smell his hair.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 31, 2022 02:30 PM (ESjRY)

397 In 2020 Alex Berenson self-published a book critical of some of the steps being taken by government against the virus. He didn't deny that there was a virus just gave his opinion that some of the steps being taken were at best counterproductive and at worse harmful.

Amazon refused to sell it. They sell all sorts of books including Mein Kampf but a book critical of the US government was a step to far.

This has been going on for a long time. The CIA helped fund Google as a startup, do you think they ever went away?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2022 02:30 PM (ZLI7S)

398 John Adams defended them in trial at Boston and got most of them off, demonstrating to Britain the rule of law worked here. And he took lots of flack for doing it.

Yeah, because he was a man of integrity, who believed in what he taught and fought for.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:30 PM (Ivdso)

399 370 I don't understand why neverTrumpers went straight from not liking Donald Trump to being too far left crazy for Pol Pot.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (eGTCV)

Freak Flags are harder to fold than a fitted silk sheet.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 31, 2022 02:30 PM (6FeV1)

400 I thought Turn was pretty good in terms of the Revolutionary War era history. A little soap operaish, but a lot of those people actually existed.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 31, 2022 02:31 PM (7B5FA)

401 By April of 2020 it was clear that

1) COVID was primarily a threat to the elderly and not at all a threat to kids

2) COVID was created at the WIV, by the scientists Daszak and Fauci had been working with.

3) Lockdowns did not "stop the spread"

Posted by: 18-1 at October 31, 2022 02:31 PM (ESjRY)

402 >>> 264 Lose faith in the government?
Heaven forfend.
That was me 50 years ago...
At least 1969 or so.
Posted by: gourmand du jour on the eastern seaboard at October 31, 2022 02:03 PM (/6wX0)

Hey.... that's *way* more than 29 years ago....

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 31, 2022 02:32 PM (llON8)

403 what is RRR
Posted by: DB at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (geLO
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It's a sound I used to make with matchbox cars.

Posted by: Axeman at October 31, 2022 02:32 PM (krQz2)

404 The FBI declined to comment.

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Hey, it's not like they work for the American people.

DEFUND. DEFUND. DEFUND.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at October 31, 2022 02:32 PM (Lz2BG)

405 Space Daddy just dissolved Twitter's Board of Directors, making himself sole director. Or Chief Twit.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 31, 2022 02:29 PM (Mzdiz)

I wonder where he found a really big vat of acid?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 31, 2022 02:33 PM (CL4kO)

406 That was pushed totally for propaganda purposes. Of course lots of things were. John Adams defended them in trial at Boston and got most of them off, demonstrating to Britain the rule of law worked here. And he took lots of flack for doing it.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 31, 2022 02:28 PM (xWZcb)

I love John Adams, but he was very naïve in that goal.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 31, 2022 02:33 PM (44ww/)

407 >>I don't understand why neverTrumpers went straight from not liking Donald Trump to being too far left crazy for Pol Pot.

They didn't move their views, they just stopped lying.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2022 02:33 PM (ZLI7S)

408 I wonder where he found a really big vat of acid?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 31, 2022 02:33 PM (CL4kO)

Or a really small vat of acid and a lot of patience...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 31, 2022 02:33 PM (6FeV1)

409 389 Heads I win, tails you lose. I wonder if the person who posted that understands the logical problem he just created, or that he's the equivalent of the wife-beater who's punching his woman in the face while screaming, "WHY DO YOU KEEP MAKING ME DO THIS TO YOU?!?!?!?!"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 31, 2022 02:29 PM (/jZNa)

========

"There is no happenstance! Everything is connected, man!"
-Not a conspiracy theorist

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 31, 2022 02:33 PM (LvTSG)

410 Space Daddy just dissolved Twitter's Board of Directors, making himself sole director.

Smart move. Its the only way to get done the work that has to be done to rebuild and fix a sick business. Now he doesn't have to wrangle votes or deal with meetings, he can just do the work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:34 PM (Ivdso)

411 406 That was pushed totally for propaganda purposes. Of course lots of things were. John Adams defended them in trial at Boston and got most of them off, demonstrating to Britain the rule of law worked here. And he took lots of flack for doing it.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 31, 2022 02:28 PM (xWZcb)

I love John Adams, but he was very naïve in that goal.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 31, 2022 02:33 PM (44ww/)

Kind of why parliamentary representation was important. The colonies had no real way to negotiate or communicate with the people who made decisions.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 31, 2022 02:34 PM (eYoxG)

412 Yeah, that scene where they locked people in a church and burned them alive? The Brits never did that.

NAZIs did it in WWII.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 31, 2022 02:27 PM (eyxn4)


Ahem...

Posted by: 20+ Children in Waco TX at October 31, 2022 02:34 PM (Z32m1)

413 405 I wonder where he found a really big vat of acid?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 31, 2022 02:33 PM (CL4kO)

=========

He has a portal gun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 31, 2022 02:34 PM (LvTSG)

414 RRR? I haven't a clue what that is.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 31, 2022 02:34 PM (Xrfse)

415 DHS's mission to fight disinformation ...

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Thanks, W! *spits*

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at October 31, 2022 02:34 PM (Lz2BG)

416 I think lye works faster

Posted by: Kindltot at October 31, 2022 02:35 PM (xhaym)

417 I love John Adams, but he was very naïve in that goal

He and other founders like Franklin and Monroe were trying to fix things rather than break free entirely. Sam Adams wanted to break free, crucify every Brit, and burn down the British Isles.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:35 PM (Ivdso)

418 414 RRR? I haven't a clue what that is.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 31, 2022 02:34 PM (Xrfse)

I mistook it as referring to RR Martin's stuff.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 31, 2022 02:35 PM (eYoxG)

419 I have a different take, that the Boston Massacre for example was to the FF descriptive of who the British were, and to the British it was a one-time temporarily embarrassing event.

Not even disagreement whether they were good or bad, just whether they were to be quickly forgotten, or held for years as demanding an answer.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 31, 2022 02:24 PM (44ww/)

John Adams himself defended the troops at the Massacre, so even those who were working for independence didn't see that event as something that could not be treated within normal procedures.

The main and cruicial divinging point was that to win the French and Indian war, the British viceroy used the colonial governments as means to raise money and troops, which gave them the means to discuss what was possible and how the deed would be done.

Post war, Parliament decided to scrap this and not even give the colonies representatives to argue their side, and this removal of a right they were de-facto given did not go over well. Most other provocations stemmed from this.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 31, 2022 02:35 PM (eoQWY)

420 I think Greenwald is wrong that "nobody wants to see themselves as a censorship supporter"

The truly vile censorship comes from regimes that see the public as subhuman that must be controlled. They have no problem with censoring scum. That is where we are today.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 31, 2022 02:35 PM (LuJTM)

421 After looking into the influence of social media platforms start looking into the influence of financial institutions: no lending to oil & gas, tracking of legitimate purchases of firearms & ammunition, lending money to Political groups….

Posted by: Bang-a-gong at October 31, 2022 02:36 PM (Qc+Wp)

422 Thanks, W! *spits*

9/11 begat 1/6.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 31, 2022 02:36 PM (Xrfse)

423 414 RRR? I haven't a clue what that is.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 31, 2022 02:34 PM (Xrfse)

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A bunch of YouTube movie people went nuts for it all about 6 months ago. I think the first might have been Patrick H. Willems.

It was huge in India, and then Netflix acquired it, let it run in its NYC theater, and people have discovered Indian film for the first time.

Indian film is weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 31, 2022 02:36 PM (LvTSG)

424 For the life of me no idea what RRR is

Posted by: Skip at October 31, 2022 02:36 PM (xhxe8)

425 I love John Adams, but he was very naïve in that goal.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 31, 2022 02:33 PM (44ww/)
== That steadfastness of purpose made him indispensable to starting the country. It also hampered his effectiveness as president.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 31, 2022 02:36 PM (xWZcb)

426 I think Greenwald is wrong that "nobody wants to see themselves as a censorship supporter"

The truly vile censorship comes from regimes that see the public as subhuman that must be controlled. They have no problem with censoring scum. That is where we are today.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 31, 2022 02:35 PM (LuJTM)
++++
Agreed. They're barely even pretending to be opposed to censorship anymore, and a lot of them are open about it now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 31, 2022 02:36 PM (/jZNa)

427 Space Daddy just dissolved Twitter's Board of Directors, making himself sole director. Or Chief Twit.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 31, 2022 02:29 PM (Mzdiz)

I wonder where he found a really big vat of acid?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 31, 2022 02:33 PM (CL4kO)


Some Rocket Fuels were pretty nasty. Ever heard of RFNA - Red Fuming Nitric Acid?

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 02:37 PM (Z32m1)

428 The truly vile censorship comes from regimes that see the public as subhuman that must be controlled

If you talk to them they'll tell you something to the effect of, "I'm not censoring free speech or anything like that - I'm stop hate speech and lies which are literally violent! I have no problem with people engaging in honest discussion."

Do they believe that though? Well...some of them. As a person told me once "Almost no one thinks of themselves as the villain"

Posted by: 18-1 at October 31, 2022 02:37 PM (ESjRY)

429 Only saw a few episodes of Turn, was already going and had idea what was happening

Posted by: Skip at October 31, 2022 02:37 PM (xhxe8)

430 Trailer for RRR

https://youtu.be/AVVO3Yat_Bw

Its one of the better movies of this year, at least in the dumb action movie category.

Basic plot: cruel British governor's wife kidnaps a child because she's cruel and evil and British. Guy who acts as protector of the village tries to get her back. Fighting against him is an equally capable Indian man who works in the British police service but is not all he seems.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:38 PM (Ivdso)

431 RRR? I haven't a clue what that is.

Indian movie where lots of shit explodes a lot, is my understanding. Very well regarded by a ton of people, including Critical Drinker.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 31, 2022 02:38 PM (ZGrMX)

432 Just another day in metro Denver:

Woman shot, killed in possible carjacking attempt

Man shoots, kills 4 people then gets away

Early Sunday shooting leaves 2 dead in Denver

Truck driver says he shot woman for throwing rocks

Posted by: DB at October 31, 2022 02:38 PM (geLO8)

433 It was huge in India, and then Netflix acquired it, let it run in its NYC theater, and people have discovered Indian film for the first time.

The film is actually titled 'RRR'?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 31, 2022 02:38 PM (Xrfse)

434 I wonder where he found a really big vat of acid?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 31, 2022 02:33 PM (CL4kO)

Or a really small vat of acid and a lot of patience...
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 31, 2022 02:33 PM (6FeV1)


Walter White: [after Jesse's ceiling caves in] I'm sorry, what were you asking me? Oh, yes, that stupid plastic container I asked you to buy. You see, hydrofluoric acid won't eat through plastic; it will however dissolve metal, rock, glass, ceramic. So there's that.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at October 31, 2022 02:38 PM (ZSK0i)

435 3) Lockdowns did not "stop the spread" Posted by: 18-1 at October 31, 2022 02:31 PM (ESjRY)

Everybody forgets, but the justification for the first 2-week lockdown was to slow the spread so that the hospital system didn't get overwhelmed and you had people dying because there weren't ICU beds for them. At the time, most people weren't saying that it would stop the disease, just that it would slow down its transmission. The same total number of people would wind up getting it, but just not all at once. That was the stated theory, anyway.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 31, 2022 02:38 PM (7B5FA)

436 How many clicks of the chain drive up-ramp are remaining before the ride 'allofasudden' begins in earnest?

Posted by: micky at October 31, 2022 02:38 PM (3byMq)

437 After looking into the influence of social media platforms start looking into the influence of financial institutions: no lending to oil & gas, tracking of legitimate purchases of firearms & ammunition, lending money to Political groups….
Posted by: Bang-a-gong at October 31, 2022 02:36 PM (Qc+Wp)


lending money to the wrong political groups

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 02:39 PM (Z32m1)

438
When Space Daddy's final "Corporate HQ" is fully operational, it will just be simpler to airlock, rather than dissolve.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 31, 2022 02:39 PM (Mzdiz)

439 https://youtu.be/FC6jFoYm3xs
Nosferatu

Is its 100th Halloween, started it last night

Posted by: Skip at October 31, 2022 02:39 PM (xhxe8)

440 The main and cruicial divinging point was that to win the French and Indian war, the British viceroy used the colonial governments as means to raise money and troops, which gave them the means to discuss what was possible and how the deed would be done.
Post war, Parliament decided to scrap this and not even give the colonies representatives to argue their side, and this removal of a right they were de-facto given did not go over well. Most other provocations stemmed from this.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 31, 2022 02:35 PM (eoQWY)


This is pretty much the genesis of the Spanish colonies' revolutions as well, post Napoleonic war the new king decided he wanted less regional control. Which pissed off the regional control.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 31, 2022 02:39 PM (xhaym)

441 oops?

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 02:39 PM (Z32m1)

442 The movie is called RRR, here's what the name stands for:

RRR is an acronym for "Roudram Ranam Rudhiram," which can be roughly translated from Telugu as "Fierce Death Blood," or to follow the original title's alliteration, "Rise Roar Revolt."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 31, 2022 02:39 PM (Ivdso)

443 433 It was huge in India, and then Netflix acquired it, let it run in its NYC theater, and people have discovered Indian film for the first time.

The film is actually titled 'RRR'?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 31, 2022 02:38 PM (Xrfse)

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Yeah. It was a placeholder title that they've said means different things in different markets. It just stuck, it seems.

Here's the Patrick H. Willems video. He explains the background a bit before getting to the actual movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPU2D5Ftjbw

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 31, 2022 02:40 PM (LvTSG)

444 The film is actually titled 'RRR'?
_________

Is it pronounced "ar, ar, ar", or a long "arrrrr" or a rolled "rrrrr"?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 31, 2022 02:40 PM (fs1hN)

445 The film is actually titled 'RRR'?

Yes. It's an acronym (via one of the less known Indian languages) for "Rage, War, Blood".

Posted by: Ian S. at October 31, 2022 02:40 PM (ZGrMX)

446 I'm filing a lawsuit today!

Posted by: George R.R.R.R.R. R. Martin at October 31, 2022 02:40 PM (Xrfse)

447 This is pretty much the genesis of the Spanish colonies' revolutions as well, post Napoleonic war the new king decided he wanted less regional control. Which pissed off the regional control.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 31, 2022 02:39 PM (xhaym)

This is why the Spanish Crown had long been so averse to granting noble titles to people in their colonies. Didn't stop many from larping as aristocrats though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 31, 2022 02:41 PM (eYoxG)

448 When Space Daddy's final "Corporate HQ" is fully operational, it will just be simpler to airlock, rather than dissolve.

He already said he's moving it to Texas, it's just a matter of figuring out if anyone currently there will be making the move.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 31, 2022 02:41 PM (ZGrMX)

449
It has become clear that all the anti-Covid measures were failures and made it worse, all of them.

From what I've been reading, enough data is in to say this. Coof was going to be a two-wave respiratory pandemic. These things are usually two or three wavers. Coof was going to be a 2-waver, and would've been over by the end of Winter 2021.

Excess mortality, overall, wasn't going to be that much. Coof mostly killed very old and very sick people who were likely to die of something else soon. This pull forward effect can now be clearly seen.

Then they started trying to 'save us". They made things far, far, worse.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 31, 2022 02:41 PM (Mzdiz)

450 Sometimes, you wonder if you are raising just another entitled, self centered, trust fund baby and unleashing them into this fallen world. Baby Sip is a freshman in college and all of her friends are dropping like flies with the flu. So this sweet girl is going to Fresh Market to buy chicken noodle soup and ginger ale for them and delivering it to them; she asked me to wire her some money to her account so she could do it. She is taking one particularly sick friend to the doctor this afternoon. I raised a good momma, and I am sitting here proud as peacock!

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 31, 2022 02:41 PM (sI15f)

451 446 I'm filing a lawsuit today!
Posted by: George R.R.R.R.R. R. Martin at October 31, 2022 02:40 PM (Xrfse)

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I think he's already tied up in court from JRR Tolkien's lawsuit. Here's a clip of the proceedings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAp_luluo0

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 31, 2022 02:42 PM (LvTSG)

452 IMHO:

Only so may high echelon positions, persons can be protected.

There's not enough of anything to pay reparations for covid-19.

Fear is a great motivator, until it's not.

It seems it could be virtually impossible to defeat those highly familiar with their environment. And in terrible times, many realize they still love, or at least respect, 'family' holding different views &/or lifestyles, and that they'll fight to protect them.

"Just smile and wave boys, smile and wave"





Posted by: Lola at October 31, 2022 02:42 PM (NIYa7)

453 Media accountability under Trump: "That's fake news!"

Media accountability under Biden: Insider positions at Gurgle, Twatter, Insty, TicTuk, et al must remand all user information to Disinformation Czar for referral to AG Garland. MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS to act as amplifiers of approved narratives. Any other opinions will be seen as Enemies of the State.

Posted by: red speck at October 31, 2022 02:42 PM (gS3OW)

454 Thanks, all. Learn something new here every day.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 31, 2022 02:42 PM (Xrfse)

455 SW radio. 1970s. Listening to the USSR English broadcast. The government was perfect in every act. And we were evil in every act.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 31, 2022 02:42 PM (hcOhQ)

456 So Greenwald stands out. So does Taibbi. Liberals of yore, *juuust* dumb enough to have meant what they said about civil liberties, but not see that none of their friends did.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


I think that falls under the label of 'wilfull ignorance.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 31, 2022 02:43 PM (IyrhE)

457 Everybody forgets, but the justification for the first 2-week lockdown was to slow the spread so that the hospital system didn't get overwhelmed and you had people dying because there weren't ICU beds for them. At the time, most people weren't saying that it would stop the disease, just that it would slow down its transmission. The same total number of people would wind up getting it, but just not all at once. That was the stated theory, anyway.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 31, 2022 02:38 PM (7B5FA)

And it turned out that many of the stories of overwhelmed ER's and double-stacked ICU's, were, get this, fiction.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 31, 2022 02:43 PM (CL4kO)

458 446 I'm filing a lawsuit today!
Posted by: George R.R.R.R.R. R. Martin at October 31, 2022 02:40 PM (Xrfse)
_________

Get in line, buddy!

Posted by: J.R.R. Tolkien (Estate of) at October 31, 2022 02:43 PM (fs1hN)

459 When Space Daddy's final "Corporate HQ" is fully operational, it will just be simpler to airlock, rather than dissolve.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz)


You mean like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5TqD5xf0ic

Posted by: rd at October 31, 2022 02:43 PM (Z32m1)

460 Nood.

Apparently, get this, the media lies by omission also.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 31, 2022 02:44 PM (GYIa4)

461 Indian film is weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 31, 2022 02:36 PM (LvTSG)

And yet Dances With Wolves won Best Picture Oscar.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 31, 2022 02:44 PM (YV6PJ)

462 #59:
As it happens, the "guy named Benito" was named Prime Minister of Italy 100 years ago today, after his March on Rome. If Trump were even half the 'Fascist' the Left claims he is, he would be solemnly commemorating the occasion, but he's not.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at October 31, 2022 02:45 PM (oucAo)

463
Birx admitted that she pulled the "two weeks to stop the spread" thing right out of her ass, like the 6' distance rule.

They knew the public would object to extended lockdowns, the 2-week thing was a "just the tip" move.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 31, 2022 02:45 PM (Mzdiz)

464 And it turned out that many of the stories of overwhelmed ER's and double-stacked ICU's, were, get this, fiction. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 31, 2022 02:43 PM (CL4kO)

As was the 2-week lie, which according to Birx was based just on what they thought they could sell, not on any analysis at all.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 31, 2022 02:45 PM (7B5FA)

465 I think he's already tied up in court from JRR Tolkien's lawsuit. Here's a clip of the proceedings:

I shall legally multitask!

Posted by: George R.R.R.R.R.R. Martin at October 31, 2022 02:45 PM (Xrfse)

466 "Yeah, that scene where they locked people in a church and burned them alive? The Brits never did that"

Perhaps, but they committed regular atrocities including rape and plundering against civilians, including the indiscriminate bombing of coastal towns. Just ask descendants of the people of Falmouth. They also routinely executed captured soldiers. Read the Congress' commission report from 1777. While some pass it off as propaganda, it was largely verified. The British especially went scorched earth against the South. I grew up with a guy whose great grandfather told us stories about how their ancestors chased the Hessian's into the mountains and killed every one they could find due to the brutality they inflicted on civilians during the war. There is a lot that goes untold from our Revolution.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 31, 2022 02:45 PM (VpIIl)

467 Ventilators!!!! Getcher Ventilators Here!!! Ventilators!!!! 2020 and 2021 models! Never used - factory fresh from China!!! Ventilators!!!!

Posted by: kraken at October 31, 2022 02:46 PM (Vr12I)

468 This is why the Spanish Crown had long been so averse to granting noble titles to people in their colonies. Didn't stop many from larping as aristocrats though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 31, 2022 02:41 PM (eYoxG)


To hold any important position in the Colonies you had to be born and appointed in Spain, or at least of Spanish parents, to be "Criollo" was to be born in the colonies. That had been breaking down, but Simon Bolivar went to Spain for his education in part to find a Spanish wife, who unfortunately died of yellow fever.

Partially it was to make sure the rulers in the colonies had close ties to Spain, and partially to have a dumping ground for all the children of important people who didn't have a place in limited spots available to the upper class and minor nobility in Spain.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 31, 2022 02:46 PM (xhaym)

469 Can’t wait for the house hearings on this. Jim Jordan is gonna be sooooo mad.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 31, 2022 02:48 PM (OalnH)

470 I have a different take, that the Boston Massacre for example was to the FF descriptive of who the British were, and to the British it was a one-time temporarily embarrassing event.

Not even disagreement whether they were good or bad, just whether they were to be quickly forgotten, or held for years as demanding an answer.


I honestly don't think the Brits deserve much hate for the Boston Massacre. A local asshole, known for being an asshole, went and taunted some Brits. He got a smack for his trouble. The asshole then went and got a mob to defend his honor. About 50 people attacked their sentinel, so Capt Preston brought out some guys to disperse the crowd. Capt Preston was standing between his men and the crowd, trying to calm things down. His men panicked and fired over the crowd. Preston did NOT give the order. Unfortunately, the crowd was large enough that some people in the back were killed and some were hurt.

I'm glad for the eventual outcome of course.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 31, 2022 02:49 PM (eyxn4)

471 SW radio. 1970s. Listening to the USSR English broadcast. The government was perfect in every act. And we were evil in every act.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 31, 2022 02:42 PM (hcOhQ)


Radio Yerevan responds . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at October 31, 2022 02:49 PM (xhaym)

472 DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Agency, had a program called LifeLog that was basically an attempt to track people's online communication.

It was canceled in 2004 over concerns of privacy. The day after it was cancelled Facebook was launched.

Still wondering why Congress won't reel in Big Tech?

https://tinyurl.com/52wb3f7f

Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2022 02:51 PM (ZLI7S)

473 NYT, Daniel E. Slotnick, March 25, 2021 - Up to a tenth of New York City’s coronavirus dead may be buried in a potter’s field. An analysis found that more than 2,334 adults were buried on Hart Island last year, up from 846 in 2019.

In part, "In addition to the burials, the city medical examiner’s office is storing the unclaimed bodies of more than 700 people who died at the height of the pandemic, according to Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the office. She said the exact causes of death for many of them may not be clear."

Posted by: Lola at October 31, 2022 02:51 PM (NIYa7)

474 So, what is it exactly you say you do here?

Posted by: The Two Bobs from CISA and NSA at October 31, 2022 02:51 PM (EHcEg)

475 There is a lot that goes untold from our Revolution. Posted by: Marcus T at October 31, 2022 02:45 PM (VpIIl)

We're already willowed, but I am very curious about the period from 1781 (Yorktown surrender) to 1783 (Treaty of Paris). You had 3 sides -- patriot, loyalist, and leave me alone, plus the Indians and the slaves. Things must have been very interesting for a while there.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 31, 2022 02:52 PM (7B5FA)

476 Oblig., "Are we the baddies?":

https://youtu.be/8JOpPNra4bw

Posted by: Sharkman at October 31, 2022 02:59 PM (Gda1b)

477 " The government needs to hold the media accountable.

This is fine."
----
No this is not fine.
The People can hold the Media accountable via individual pocketbooks.
The People can hold government accountable via elections, recalls and the Courts. If all that fails then there is the constitutional fallback of a radical government change as a last resort. 1776.

Posted by: Ciampino - no trust and definitely no pride in the FEEB at October 31, 2022 03:11 PM (qfLjt)

478 >>Not even disagreement whether they were good or bad, just whether they were to be quickly forgotten, or held for years as demanding an answer.

The local British army faced the animosity that they did because the Crown passed some pretty intolerable stuff (Stamp act, the Townson Act) after already extracting a lot from the colonists with our loyal cooperation in the French and Indian War - bottom line - we were a source of ready cash to pay back war debts, a cash source that was in short supply to the Crown - and insolence from upstart subjects in faraway colonies rankled them to the point of deciding upon confiscation.

To get your pockets picked to pay for adventures you had no right to dispute over and be treated as less than any other subject of the Crown was just too much - but add on the final late stage oppression enforced by occupying troops - Rebellion!

Posted by: Boswell at October 31, 2022 03:13 PM (+Cgut)

479 I'm glad for the eventual outcome of course.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 31, 2022 02:49 PM (eyxn4)

People from Boston have always been assholes. Only thing that surprises me is that they haven't started many other wars/

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 31, 2022 03:29 PM (UuD2k)

480 "Behind closed doors, and through pressure on private platforms, the U.S. government has used its power to try to shape online discourse."
--
By 'The U.S. Government' someone is really saying 'The Bureaucracy' or better, 'The Deep State'. I am curious what changes at the White House between a D and an R President. Overt control versus covert control?

Posted by: Ciampino -- no trust and definitely no pride in the FEEB at October 31, 2022 03:45 PM (qfLjt)

481 It's been a long time since we had a 'Talk Like a Pirate' day.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 31, 2022 03:47 PM (95EcE)

482 CISA," the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency

Another agency?

Bet not one congress person can name all the agencies.
Bet they ought to start saving their paycheck because Donald Trump is coming and they will be gone.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 31, 2022 03:50 PM (qleR6)

483 I knew that was going to happen.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 31, 2022 03:57 PM (qleR6)

484 Angry Ace is cruel

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Cruel Ace is best Ace.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 31, 2022 04:10 PM (yHsuS)

485 Forgive and forget? Not bloody likely.

https://is.gd/vKzZMs

Hasn't California passed a law that you can't question government.

Posted by: Ciampino --- no trust and definitely no pride in the FEEB at October 31, 2022 04:53 PM (qfLjt)

486 Late to comment, but if Vajayjay Gooywog was meeting with fed.gov officials on a regular basis, then Twitter was acting under the color of law. Case law is very clear that government agents cannot purposely use private citizens to circumvent civil rights.

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