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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Agadoo, Do, Do, Push Pineapple, ONT!Thursday night. Probably going to be a bit slow, because the TxMoMe is getting started. Why not start with an historical oddity? Joke's On You Tonight's subject is practical jokes. Absolute Legends: The Wildest Pranks Ever Pulled I like this one:One summer in college, I worked in the registrar’s office, registering all the incoming freshman. A professor who was a mentor to me was teaching freshman seminar and asked me to hand pick a class for her. Straight A students, high SATs, whatever. So, I did. 15 students, all named Sarah.Now it's your turn. What are some of the best practical jokes you've ever played or witnessed? I'll start. One time, when I was merely a wee little Slightly Odd Dave, I wired my mom's toilet seat so then when she sat down a siren went off. A very loud siren. Mounted right behind the toilet. She went upstairs after dinner, and WEEOOOWEEOOO!.. ARRRRGH! * thump * (She had jumped off the pot in panic). My dad thought it was hilarious, so the next day I covered the bowl of his john with Saran Wrap, tightly stretched so that it was invisible. He went to pee and....splash! My mom thought that was hilarious. What y'all got? I Write The Songs That Make The Whole World Cringe Turn It Down Please: Here Are The Most Annoying Pop Songs Ever Made If practical jokes aren't your thing, well, have I got a deal for you! All I'm asking for is your opinion! Most of y'all are stuffed chock full of opinions, well, we'd like to hear them! What are your nominations for the worst pop songs ever? The above list is pretty long, and includes not only well-known acts, but also some that are a bit obscure, like Black Lace. Black Lace is one of the few bands I know of that would be equally comfortable performing at a kid's party (this song made the list – and the ONT title!) or a drunken college frat party (NSFW lyrics). If you like that last song, here's a clip of a 66 year old woman singing it for The X Factor. Bawdy old broad, ain't she? I'm Requesting Asylum There was discussion last week about the Texas Embassy in London. Well, it's a restaurant that was named after the actual embassy of the Republic of Texas, which represented the interests of the RoT from 1842-1845. Texas also had embassies in Paris and Washington DC. Here's a little bit more about it. The Republic of Texas' somewhat-hidden embassy in London, England Sovereignty? What's That? China is opening police stations in Canada and apparently Canada is just letting them do it The People's Republic of China has opened at least three police stations on Canadian soil as part of an alleged attempt by the country's security state to keep an eye on the Chinese-Canadian diaspora. Three addresses in Toronto are known to be registered as "service stations" operated by the Fuzhou Public Security Bureau, a police force active in the Chinese metropolis of Fuzhou. … Safeguard Defenders holds that the stations function mainly as outposts for the Chinese policy of "Involuntary Return" – a program of compelling Chinese nationals to return home whenever the country's security service deems that they've violated Chinese law. "These operations eschew official bilateral police and judicial cooperation," they wrote.If I may channel Chris Farley for a sec, “Hey, do you remember when the West would tell totalitarian states to fuck off? Yeah. That was great.” Chicken!* Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken. Chicken chicken chicken. Chicken. Chicken? Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken, chicken chicken, chicken chicken chicken. Chicken. Deep Thoughts Understanding pandemic-emergent personality & behavioral psychopathology Deep dive. Discuss it in the comments if you'd like. Diplomacy Joe Biden's disastrous Ukraine strategy doesn't hold a candle to the diplomatic masterclass JFK put on during the Cuban Missile Crisis New York Times columnist James Reston noted as early as October 29 of 1962 that the Soviets avoided a military conflict over Cuba because the area was of a strategic disadvantage to them.I don't see that situations as analogous, certainly not at this late date. Putin is in a box. If he can't conclude the Ukrainian War on a note that he can at least claim is a victory, he won't be president any longer. The basement of the Lubyanka beckons. OTOH his best conventional option, the traditional Soviet tactic of drowning their enemies in Russian blood threatens him with another 1917 type revolution at home. Desperate men do desperate things, and this desperate man has nukes. The US should have been trying to broker a peace between the two parties all along, but this administration launders their graft through Ukraine and the entire left has been obsessed with Russian boogeymen for the last 6 years. (Mitt Romney must be turning over in his grave). The Cuban Missile Crisis was resolved because both sides had an off ramp that allowed them to save face at home. I don't see that now, God help us all. On Conservatism Explaining Conservativism II: Why the Left Hates It Conservativism attempts to conserve the best of the past — the best art, literature and music, the best standards, values and wisdom. Conservativism then passes the best of everything to every succeeding generation. The Left — meaning progressives, not necessarily liberals — loathes the fact that conservativism preserves the past. That is why “change” is one of the most cherished words in the Left’s vocabulary. There is nothing more threatening or, perhaps more important, boring, to a leftist than preserving the past. “New” and “change” provide leftists meaning and excitement.It's true enough, but it really doesn't solve the problem. This guy has a solution We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives Put bluntly, if conservatives want to save the country they are going to have to rebuild and in a sense re-found it, and that means getting used to the idea of wielding power, not despising it. Why? Because accommodation or compromise with the left is impossible. One need only consider the speed with which the discourse shifted on gay marriage, from assuring conservatives ahead of the 2015 Obergefell decision that gay Americans were only asking for toleration, to the never-ending persecution of Jack Phillips.I guess we have to destroy the village in order to save it. I'm not buying it. I'm not sure how to avoid it however, he's absolutely right, the Left won't stop until they are stopped. The part I'm not so sanguine about is that the cudgel of big government can be used to smash the left and then be relinquished. History tells me that that won't happen. Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by the Bass Pro Shop Party Anthem: — ONT WTF (@OntWtf) October 21, 2022 Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Trebuchet Airlines sending new Republican voters north, and asshole democrats south since 2022.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 09:53 PM (Lzpvj) Posted by: Zettai at October 20, 2022 09:54 PM (tpP8D) 3
Good evening everyone.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 09:55 PM (5laLd) 4
Screw you guys!
Barry Manilow is hardcore. I say this as a depeche mode and nine inch nails fan.... If Manilow is wrong I never want to be right. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 09:55 PM (Lzpvj) 5
First? nope.
Posted by: Farmer at October 20, 2022 09:55 PM (55Qr6) 6
I will freight 500 items, and I will freight 500 more I'll handle 1000 pieces of cargo and put the right one right at your door....
//Sven 9H Canadian Export/Hazmat cargo carrier Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 09:56 PM (Lzpvj) 7
Play jokes on people? Nope, it's too mean and not funny.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 09:57 PM (7bRMQ) Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 09:57 PM (Lzpvj) 9
I Write The Songs That Make The Whole World Cringe
Yeah, you pretty much nailed it right there, WD. Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 09:57 PM (7bRMQ) 10
Oh fellas dick measuring by socialists doesn't really need compelling national interests EVER....
You have to love the newsies buying into the Ivy League's bullshit long con on foreign policy. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 09:58 PM (Lzpvj) 11
Comrade Winnie: Can we run three secret police stations to suppress wrongthink in the Chinese-Canadian population?
J. Castreau: Sure! But only if you teach me how to run three hundred secret police stations to suppress wrongthink in the Canadian-Canadian population. Posted by: CppThis at October 20, 2022 09:59 PM (UewuT) 12
If we really want to piss off the left and short circuit their asses we need to start referring to ourselves as "liberals."
In any other culture we are actually radicals. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 09:59 PM (Lzpvj) 13
Somebody asked me to name two things that are better since Brandon was elected. I told her: 1) the National Anthem is no longer racist; and 2) we no longer have Dem paramilitaries burning, looting, and murdering.
She walked off. Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at October 20, 2022 09:59 PM (9X60i) 14
So.. the horde in Corsicana did this thing.. and I can't get over it. Love and miss you all so much!
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 20, 2022 10:00 PM (nxdel) 15
13 Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at October 20, 2022 09:59 PM (9X60i)
You should have gotten your cardio in and explained to her that putting foreign interests ahead of our own is cool again as well.... fuck 'em make them hear it. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:00 PM (Lzpvj) 16
Sven, I didn't see anything wrong about your post on TOM. You said you thought you were too harsh?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 10:01 PM (7bRMQ) 17
I took this freshman seminar in college and, like, all fourteen of the other girls had the same name as I did!
It was tripendicular! Posted by: Valley Girl at October 20, 2022 10:01 PM (xxG/v) 18
Got a new computer, so testing...
My son and middle daughter pranked me into believing he had pierced her nose when she was about 13: tiny stud glued to her nose, fake blood ring, tears in her eyes- the whole bit. I totally fell for it. Posted by: sal at October 20, 2022 10:02 PM (y40tE) 19
14 Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 20, 2022 10:00 PM (nxdel)
Mrs Olafson wants to go this weekend, but: 1) we didn't RSVP 2) She has to work tomorrow and the earliest we could get there would be 2200 and 3) too many awesome people in one area would be a meteorological event.... All of you are in our hearts if not our gaze. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:03 PM (Lzpvj) 20
Prank? Jr high. Loaded a pal's mom's cigarettes with short lengths of cannon fuse.
She did stop smoking. Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 20, 2022 10:03 PM (vm+Bf) 21
Love him or hate him, JFK wasn't an idiot. One of the last high functioning presidents, back when guys at the top of both business and politics had both a vision and a means of achieving it.
Maybe that's why he had to go. Posted by: CppThis at October 20, 2022 10:04 PM (UewuT) 22
Greetings:
With apologies to Sunday's forthcoming "Book Thread" and as an homage to the upcoming "TexMoMe", I'm reading "Red Sky Morning" by Joe Pappalardo. It's "The Epic True Story of Texas Ranger Company F" Colts and Winchesters all around. Posted by: 11B40 at October 20, 2022 10:04 PM (uuklp) 23
The Cuban Missile Crisis was resolved because both sides had an off ramp that allowed them to save face at home.
It was a quid-pro-quo - the Russians pulled their nuclear missiles out of Cuba, and we pulled our nuclear missiles out of Turkey (although we didn't publicize the second part). Of course, back then you didn't have the neocons announcing that a feasible war goal is to crush the Russians, divide Russia up into a dozen new states, and conduct war crimes trials in the Kremlin. A similarity is that Castro was trying to start WWIII over Cuba, and now Zelensky is trying to start WWIII over Ukraine. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 10:04 PM (I2/tG) 24
16 Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 10:01 PM (7bRMQ)
TOM? Oh the dog thing? Yeah I can sometimes come across stronger than I intend. I love dogs, and I love dog lovers, but some dog lovers overlove their dogs in ways that leave me mystified. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:05 PM (Lzpvj) 25
The part I'm not so sanguine about is that the cudgel of big government can be used to smash the left and then be relinquished. History tells me that that won't happen.
The other option is to allow the left to continue to use the cudgel of big government against us, which they will do even with our guys in Congress and the White House if we're not actively using that force to destroy them. It's not ideal, but they chose to seek the overthrow of our nation and the end of the values it was founded upon, so there is no living with them. Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 10:05 PM (kOpft) 26
21 Posted by: CppThis at October 20, 2022 10:04 PM (UewuT)
I'd argue he was a dilettante fratboy who was in the end a patriot who wanted to "win" and by "win" he meant "for America." A lot like Trump actually. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:06 PM (Lzpvj) 27
Yeah I can sometimes come across stronger than I intend. I love dogs, and I love dog lovers, but some dog lovers overlove their dogs in ways that leave me mystified.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:05 PM (Lzpvj) Oh, sorry. I meant your post on The Other McCain. Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 10:06 PM (7bRMQ) 28
Watching the TV and they were talking about a couple of fires in the area. So I told my wife, "You know, is someones house was burned down by their kid, when asked, 'How did the house burn down', they could always say, 'our son' [arson]"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:07 PM (ynpvh) 29
Heh. I’m scheduled to reveal some of my youthful indescretions this weekend. But you’d have to be here for that!
Posted by: Perfessor Squirrel at October 20, 2022 10:07 PM (okxCJ) 30
Tangentially musically related; it was 45 years ago today that lead singer Ronnie Van Zant, guitarist Steve Gaines and backup singer Cassie Gaines of Lynyrd Skynyrd were lost in a plane crash only days after their album "Street Survivors" was released.
*flicks bic and cranks Free Bird Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 20, 2022 10:07 PM (BFigT) 31
25 Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 10:05 PM (kOpft)
The right has to accept that they cannot maintain the nation of 25 years ago. The choice is not between "normal" and "not normal" it is what "not normal" will lead to a better new normal. The left simply will not allow us to make a fair nation that leaves people in peace, so we need to teach them that they should be as distrustful of big government as we were through vigorous counter-application of it savagely. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:08 PM (Lzpvj) 32
Heh. I’m scheduled to reveal some of my youthful indescretions this weekend. But you’d have to be here for that!
Posted by: Perfessor Squirrel at October 20, 2022 10:07 PM (okxCJ) You dogeared at book in the school library? Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 10:08 PM (7bRMQ) 33
"Turn It Down Please: Here Are The Most Annoying Pop Songs Ever Made"
I just realized Crazy frog is male (has a penis and balls)... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:08 PM (ynpvh) 34
The Cuban Missile Crisis was resolved because both sides had an off ramp that allowed them to save face at home. I don't see that now, God help us all.
Disagree. Khrushchev probably knew that withdrawing from Cuba would cost him his position, if not his life. He did the right thing for the simple reason that the Russians would have been destroyed in a nuclear war. We would too, of course. His best argument was that when he withdrew, we withdrew our missiles from Turkey, so he could claim that it was a quid pro quo. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:08 PM (eOEVl) 35
Rebecca Black “Friday” worstest pop song. Maybe ever.
Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 10:09 PM (0GTCG) 36
27 Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 10:06 PM (7bRMQ)
Ah the Other McCain, he and I bumped into one another a lot at Lgf back in the day. I felt bad for giving him some of the heat I carry for Treacher incorrectly. I'd apologize to him if he were here. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:09 PM (Lzpvj) 37
fuck 'em make them hear it.
She keeps calling Republicans Nazis. I tell her that if the Republicans win the election she is gonna wish they were Nazis. I tell her "Yeah, they'll prevent you from getting your COVID booster and then just let nature run its course." Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at October 20, 2022 10:09 PM (9X60i) 38
Thanks for the ONT, WD. Now catch up on the sometimes bizarre content.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:10 PM (Xrfse) 39
Annoying song not on the list that should be:
Taylor Swift.....We Are Never Getting Back Together. Sounds like it was written by an 11 year old going through her first break up. Alas, that song will never get the criticism it deserves because music "journalist" live on social media and won't risk the wrath of "Swifties". Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 20, 2022 10:11 PM (8aKLl) 40
37 Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at October 20, 2022 10:09 PM (9X60i)
The GOP will make sure your body is your choice honey. I fully support increasing the mass formation psychosis the left has fallen prey to. Taken to extremes like Belgium and Holland they may ASK us to leave. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:11 PM (Lzpvj) 41
I just want to say F--- JFK, and F--- all the lefty ass kissers that think he did such a great job being a weak ass loser pos and causing the cuban missile crisis in the first place.
I will never read any shithead lefty telling me what a great job he did at the third act in the bay of pigs defeat. Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 20, 2022 10:11 PM (WCzQY) 42
I'd apologize to him if he were here.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:09 PM (Lzpvj) I didn't know he posted there? Of course, I didn't get there until a few months before CJ switched sides and Kilgore Trout started up his trouble. Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 10:11 PM (7bRMQ) 43
Of course, back then you didn't have the neocons announcing that a feasible war goal is to crush the Russians, divide Russia up into a dozen new states, and conduct war crimes trials in the Kremlin.
Who said that? A similarity is that Castro was trying to start WWIII over Cuba, and now Zelensky is trying to start WWIII over Ukraine. Zelensky's stated aim is to get Russia out of his country. Where did he say he wanted to start WWIII? Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:12 PM (eOEVl) 44
Manilow is one of the greatest song writers that kind. Right up there with Neil Diamond and Billy Joel.
Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 10:12 PM (aYpFd) 45
39 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 20, 2022 10:11 PM (8aKLl)
Sven junior just used the term Tay Sway for Taylor Swift... I am 50, and I am now officially old he says that is what the S-2 nerds call her. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:12 PM (Lzpvj) 46
Manilow is one of the greatest song writers that kind. Right up there with Neil Diamond and Billy Joel.
Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 10:12 PM (aYpFd) Hey now! Posted by: Neil Sedaka at October 20, 2022 10:13 PM (7bRMQ) 47
There are surviving Aztecs records? I thought there were zero known genuine pre-Columbian documents of Aztec origin.
Are we talking about a colonial manuscript created by native scribes working for Spanish authorities? Or was it possibly a carving? Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:14 PM (eyxn4) 48
Rebecca Black “Friday” worstest pop song. Maybe ever.
I give her a pass on this. She was very young and Mommy and Daddy sprang for the writers, studio time and musicians. They should have known it was terrible and protected their kid a little more. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 20, 2022 10:14 PM (8aKLl) 49
>>>Chicken!*
I think if you deploy the asterisk, you are morally required to have a second one where the explanation is for the first one. A footnote or whatever. Don't leave the poor reader searching in vain for wherever you hid the explanation. That's just cruel. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 20, 2022 10:14 PM (gv7Yb) 50
Because accommodation or compromise with the left is impossible.
Most of us here have recognized that for a while but it needs to become a mantra. There is no common ground, no reconciliation. Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:15 PM (Xrfse) 51
I once opined that "We Built this City" was the worst song ever, and my son instantly came back with "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now." Fair point, son.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 10:15 PM (7B5FA) 52
I think if you deploy the asterisk, you are morally required to have a second one where the explanation is for the first one. A footnote or whatever. Don't leave the poor reader searching in vain for wherever you hid the explanation. That's just cruel.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 20, 2022 10:14 PM (gv7Yb) Ok. *It tastes like rattlesnake! Posted by: Roadkill Kafe at October 20, 2022 10:16 PM (7bRMQ) 53
Worst song ever: anything from Motown.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:16 PM (eOEVl) 54
Hey! I LIKE Europe's "Final Countdown". The guitars rock, man!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:16 PM (ynpvh) 55
Shan't be making it to the TxMoMe this year. I simply shannot.
The reason is good. As you all may know, I moved permanently from SoCal to St. Augustine, FL in late July to be around my Kids and Grandson. Prior to 2020 I'd lived in the PNW for 45 years. At 59, I've been looking for work that would be more meaningful than what I've been doing previously. Two weeks ago a job dropped on me from Heaven. Case Manager at a privately-operated/state-supervised juvenile lockup facility. The Kids are mostly minorities, all with criminal records and at least one diagnosed mental illness. They are violent and on the road to prison or death. My job is to help put them on the path to life. I've been through two weeks of pretty eye-opening training (how to defend myself, how to verbally de-escalate a situation, how to physically subdue a Kid. Suicide prevention. Etc. Etc.) Two more weeks of training and then I'll be working directly with the Kids. It will be horribly stressful but I have a chance to make a difference in Kids' lives and I've prayed on it and committed myself to doing the job no matter what may happen. So I wish all the TxMoMe-ers a good time! Maybe next year. Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 10:16 PM (Gda1b) 56
Apparently the siege at Tenochtitlan was not pre-Columbian. It was in 1521.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:16 PM (eyxn4) 57
42 Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 10:11 PM (7bRMQ)
Ah the glory days of LGF, once upon a time you could stop in one spot and read, McCain, Patterico, AfricaChique, Baldilocks, Treacher (pre-insanity), Ed the Weather Guy, Razorfist, Breitbart and a slew of others making very serious posts that drove the left nuts. It was one of the greatest conglomerations of web literary and knowledge potential gathered together in the history of the web I think. The fame of the place was in its commentariat, and that drove the Jazz Flautist nuts so as he went home to the communists he destroyed it. And here a lot of us are. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:16 PM (Lzpvj) 58
Two weeks ago a job dropped on me from Heaven. Case Manager at a privately-operated/state-supervised juvenile lockup facility. The Kids are mostly minorities, all with criminal records and at least one diagnosed mental illness. They are violent and on the road to prison or death.
My job is to help put them on the path to life. I've been through two weeks of pretty eye-opening training (how to defend myself, how to verbally de-escalate a situation, how to physically subdue a Kid. Suicide prevention. Etc. Etc.) Two more weeks of training and then I'll be working directly with the Kids. It will be horribly stressful but I have a chance to make a difference in Kids' lives and I've prayed on it and committed myself to doing the job no matter what may happen. More power to you. I couldn't do that job. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:17 PM (eOEVl) 59
I think if you deploy the asterisk, you are morally required to have a second one where the explanation is for the first one. A footnote or whatever. Don't leave the poor reader searching in vain for wherever you hid the explanation. That's just cruel.
Son of a bitch. I did, it just got cut off by mistake when I posted. It's there now. Posted by: Weirddave at October 20, 2022 10:17 PM (G4IL7) 60
that last video is amazingly appropriate - ancient civilizations built huge monuments to their gods, and to their culture - we build huge monuments to Bass Pro.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:17 PM (r46W7) 61
just want to say F--- JFK, and F--- all the lefty ass kissers that think he did such a great job being a weak ass loser pos and causing the cuban missile crisis in the first place[/i[
His "legacy" was greatly enhanced by being assassinated. It allowed the historians to write of what could have been instead of what was. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 20, 2022 10:17 PM (8aKLl) 62
Rebecca Black “Friday” worstest pop song. Maybe ever.
Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 10:09 PM The sequel song by Katy Perry ft. Rebecca Black is an interesting tune... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlyXNRrsk4A Posted by: Zettai at October 20, 2022 10:18 PM (LeCXZ) 63
Best practical joke I ever pulled was when I worked for the phone company way back when. Our office was the entire floor in a high rise in Boston that was full of cubicles with offices along two of the outside walls. The offices were made with a modular construction system that used metal, U-shaped channel pieces that held pieces of wallboard cut to fit various wall panels and doors.
One of the managers who was a bit of a practical joker himself went on vacation and a bunch of us took the opportunity to remove the section that held his door and replace it with a wall section so his office was a big box with no way in. We all got to the office early the Monday he was coming back from vacation and hid in the cubes and watched him walk around his office like the apes in 2001 with the obelisk looking for a way in. Took him a couple minutes but he finally realized he had been punked and he laughed and swore he would get even with "You useless assholes!". Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 10:18 PM (ZLI7S) 64
Sven.. next year!!
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 20, 2022 10:18 PM (nxdel) 65
I looked up that trebuchet story and found a post that quoted Cortez's diary, the diary of Diaz del Castillo, and an account from one of the Aztecs.
Cortez simply said "It didn't work" del Castillo said "The stone was placed in the sling, but when fired it didn't even rise above the height of the [trebuchet] and then fell down in the same place. Cortez then ordered the [trebuchet] be dismantled so we could say that we decided not to use it out of concern for the people's lives." The Aztec account said "The stone didn't land among the people, but fell behind the market in Xomolco." So... take that for whatever you will. Posted by: pkudude99 at October 20, 2022 10:18 PM (WSLPW) 66
43 Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:12 PM (eOEVl)
He has stated he wants the Crimea back, the Russian acquisition of Crimea was every bit as legal as our deposing of Z-man's predecessor. State and DOD being caught with their pants down does not get a free do over. Set the peace terms high enough you guarantee it escalates. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:18 PM (Lzpvj) 67
Worst song ever: anything from Motown.
Whoa. I'll just leave that one alone. Better to not comment on bullshit. Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:19 PM (Xrfse) 68
I'm not much of a prankster, but I was hideously pranked at least once.
My sister and I were staying the night at my much older sister's house. Much older sister had to run out to the store to get something in the evening. Other sister and I are chilling in the guest room, watching TV (or something.. it wasn't quite 29 years ago) when we hear scratching on the window screen. Gets our blood pumping a little, but we investigate and there is nothing. It happens again, we go over to investigate and... BAHHHHH! Much older sister yells and bangs window. I think I blacked out. Posted by: She Hobbit at October 20, 2022 10:19 PM (ftFVW) 69
64 Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 20, 2022 10:18 PM (nxdel)
The Mrs will try to meet you there, sher just may not have a sign on that says "Sven's wife." Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:19 PM (Lzpvj) 70
Who said that?
Voila! From an official US government agency: The Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, also known as the Helsinki Commission, today announced the following online briefing: DECOLONIZING RUSSIA A Moral and Strategic Imperative Thursday, June 23, 2022 10:00 a.m. https://tinyurl.com/38ukak2a "Decolonizing" means breaking Russia up into a number of new states. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 10:19 PM (I2/tG) 71
> I once opined that "We Built this City" was the worst song ever, and my son instantly came back with "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now." Fair point, son.
Rhianna's song where she says the word "work" a zillion times is up there. I also hate Tears for Fears: "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" with a burning passion. Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:19 PM (eyxn4) 72
Rebecca Black “Friday” worstest pop song. Maybe ever.
Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 10:09 PM (0GTCG) Except for countless hits by Divas. Friday would have been acclaimed if sung by Taylor, Ariana or Adele. Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 10:20 PM (aYpFd) 73
...so he could claim that it was a quid pro quo.
Posted by: Archimedes Which means it was quid pro quo. Which means Russia made a move on our border, and gained something in return. They also owned cuba for the next 8 decades and counting. Sounds like we lost on that one. Certainly the Cubans lost. The parallel now would be that we give them Ukraine and walk away. I am sure if FJB knew a way to sell that as a "win" the way JFK did , he would not hesitate. Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 20, 2022 10:20 PM (WCzQY) 74
61 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 20, 2022 10:17 PM (8aKLl)
Donkey is big on myth going all the way back to Wilson in the modern epoch. "He kept us out of war!*" *for six months JFK morphed from a tax cutting supply sider anti-communist into a crypto commie peacenik by the time his body cooled. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:21 PM (Lzpvj) Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:21 PM (Xrfse) 76
He has stated he wants the Crimea back, the Russian acquisition of Crimea was every bit as legal as our deposing of Z-man's predecessor.
Acquisition? Is that what we're calling it now? State and DOD being caught with their pants down does not get a free do over. Last I checked, Zelensky does not run State or DoD. Set the peace terms high enough you guarantee it escalates. Adopt the attitude that nothing is worth fighting over, and you're guaranteed to eventually end up in a fight. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:21 PM (eOEVl) 77
5 Posted by: Farmer at October 20, 2022 09:55 PM (55Qr6)
In fairness, I am an AI. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 09:57 I always knew there was something off about you sven. Hope all you headed to Corsicana have safe travels. Wish I could join you, perhaps next year. Posted by: Farmer at October 20, 2022 10:22 PM (55Qr6) 78
47 There are surviving Aztecs records? I thought there were zero known genuine pre-Columbian documents of Aztec origin.
Are we talking about a colonial manuscript created by native scribes working for Spanish authorities? Or was it possibly a carving? Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:14 PM (eyxn4) ----- The Spaniards had scribes who wrote down what people said, while they and the priest went around destroying as many Aztec codices as they could since it was "devil writing." A few codices have survived, but not many. Posted by: pkudude99 at October 20, 2022 10:22 PM (WSLPW) Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 10:22 PM (ZLI7S) 80
71 Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:19 PM (eyxn4)
Eh Tears for Fears works if Val Kilmer is on the screen. 70 Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 10:19 PM (I2/tG) or forcing it to adopt 1/3d of Africa or something-in fairness our civil service is insane and crossing domestic insanity with the international order.....they may mean mug the west to nuclear war. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:23 PM (Lzpvj) 81
I guess we have to destroy the village in order to save it."
If it's any consolation, the village we knew and loved has already been destroyed. We're just cleaning away the debris so there's space to rebuild. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:23 PM (r46W7) 82
"Turn It Down Please: Here Are The Most Annoying Pop Songs Ever Made"
I just realized Crazy frog is male (has a penis and balls)... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:08 PM (ynpvh) I read the entire list. It was all on one page, so props to them for not clickbaiting. Most of the songs are completely unknown to me, so their annoyance factor is a cipher. Of the songs known to me, I'd say less than half are truly annoying. Mostly, they fall into the "played to death" category. And some were just plain wrong. "Yakety Yak" by the coasters was a great song, written by Leiber and Stoller, IIRC, who wrote a lot of their hits. And they called it "rockabilly"? For fuck's sake, the Coasters were seminal R&B, with a touch of doo-wop. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 10:23 PM (IpSZQ) 83
good evening everyone
Posted by: wing at October 20, 2022 10:23 PM (PlW9M) 84
Last I checked, Zelensky does not run State or DoD.
Set the peace terms high enough you guarantee it escalates. Adopt the attitude that nothing is worth fighting over, and you're guaranteed to eventually end up in a fight. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:21 PM (eOEVl) Seems like he does. Must have HUGE Kompromat Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:23 PM (Zzbjj) 85
> Whoa. I'll just leave that one alone. Better to not comment on bullshit.
Yeah, "Can't Hurry Love" or "I Want You Back" or "Please, Mister Postman" are better than 99.9999% of pop songs today. Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:23 PM (eyxn4) 86
The Spaniards had scribes who wrote down what people said, while they and the priest went around destroying as many Aztec codices as they could since it was "devil writing." A few codices have survived, but not many.
Posted by: pkudude99 at October 20, 2022 10:22 PM (WSLPW) iirc, one of the most magnificent and longest of them all is owned by the Vatican. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:24 PM (r46W7) 87
Which means it was quid pro quo. Which means Russia made a move on our border, and gained something in return.
I think there is truth to that. Sounds like we lost on that one. Certainly the Cubans lost. The parallel now would be that we give them Ukraine and walk away. I am sure if FJB knew a way to sell that as a "win" the way JFK did , he would not hesitate. I don't know if it's a parallel, but regardless, I doubt FJB has the wit to know how to respond. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:24 PM (eOEVl) 88
And no, I do not agree that making government bigger and more powerful is the key to beating the left. The exact opposite of what we need.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 10:24 PM (ZLI7S) 89
76 Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:21 PM (eOEVl)
You'll have to fucking forgive me if the asshole motherfuckers who preached during my childhood for unilateral disarmament on our part against the Soviet Union deciding they are now the biggest Russo haters on Earth leaves me singularly fucking unimpressed. I remember Biden's bullshit in the early 80s, thanks. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:24 PM (Lzpvj) 90
72 @jct
Kickin' in the front seat Sittin' in the back seat Gotta make my mind up Which seat can I take Truly master class lyrics. 😂 Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 10:25 PM (0GTCG) Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:25 PM (eOEVl) 92
I remember Biden's bullshit in the early 80s, thanks.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:24 PM (Lzpvj) It's smellier now because he drops it in his pants. Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 10:26 PM (7bRMQ) 93
79 Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 10:22 PM (ZLI7S)
I think it is a symbiotic cancer actually. We run his defense policy so State can keep laundering bribes and graft to the uniparty. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:26 PM (Lzpvj) 94
You'll have to fucking forgive me if the asshole motherfuckers who preached during my childhood for unilateral disarmament on our part against the Soviet Union deciding they are now the biggest Russo haters on Earth leaves me singularly fucking unimpressed.
No forgiveness needed. I agree. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:26 PM (eOEVl) 95
56 Apparently the siege at Tenochtitlan was not pre-Columbian. It was in 1521.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:16 PM (eyxn4) Columbus died in 1506; so difinitively POST-Columbian... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:26 PM (ynpvh) 96
> A few codices have survived, but not many.
Yeah, there are like five known genuine pre-Colombian documents. Zero are Aztec. Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:26 PM (eyxn4) 97
Arf!
Posted by: Sandy at October 20, 2022 10:26 PM (Qzn2/) 98
So.. the horde in Corsicana did this thing.. and I can't get over it. Love and miss you all so much!
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer Reporting from the front lines. {{{Jewels}}} The love for you and the prayers sent forth from Corsicana is truly a measure of how much you and your soul are the best!!. XXXOOO Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 10:26 PM (lJmmt) 99
Just stumbled across on YouTube a Mark Felton show on one of the Horde's favorite topics - The atomic bombs and Japan's surrender.
To say it is complicated is an understatement as parts of the Imperial Japanese Army was determined to kill everyone, the glory of a hundred million deaths they promised, instead of surrendering. Stuff I learned - the US could have dropped a third bomb as early as the 19th of August, that Col. Tibbets had two Silverplate B-29s at Wendover ready to accept the parts and fly them to Tinian, and the bomb would remain on standby at Los Alamos until the 2nd of September. One of the final deciding factors for Emperor Hirohito to order the surrender was the meeting of the cabinet of the 14th of August when General Hata, who had survived the Hiroshima bombing, said he could not defend Kyushu from invasion. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:27 PM (DTrmb) 100
Hi wing!! *Forest Gump wave*
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 20, 2022 10:27 PM (nxdel) 101
> Columbus died in 1506; so difinitively POST-Columbian...
Yeah, History is not my best subject. I DO MY BEST THOUGH! Heh. Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:27 PM (eyxn4) 102
A few codices have survived, but not many.
Yeah, there are like five known genuine pre-Colombian documents. Zero are Aztec. IIRC, the conquistadores burned or otherwise destroyed all the Aztec / Indian records they could, largely for religious reasons. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:27 PM (eOEVl) 103
78 47
The Spaniards had scribes who wrote down what people said, while they and the priest went around destroying as many Aztec codices as they could since it was "devil writing." A few codices have survived, but not many. Posted by: pkudude99 at October 20, 2022 10:22 PM (WSLPW) Which is sad in some sense; seems like I may be decended from some of those blood-thirsty "peaceful" natives, so knowing a little more about them would've been...interesting. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:28 PM (ynpvh) 104
Some Rat.. I'm overwhelmed. Truly. Please tell them all that it meant so much to me. This group is just absolutely the best. Miss you all so much.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 20, 2022 10:29 PM (nxdel) 105
Fun fact: Rochelle's dad is the founder of BTG and after he sold it to Titan Corporation, he joined their board. Titan Corp: DHS contracts, Defense, and a history of illegal campaign contributions. But I'm sure the daughter is pristine and honest.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:29 PM (Zzbjj) 106
hi jewells45
Posted by: wing at October 20, 2022 10:29 PM (PlW9M) 107
"Adopt the attitude that nothing is worth fighting over, and you're guaranteed to eventually end up in a fight.
" Let the Ruskis and the krainiacs duke it out. Enough Americans are already 6 feet underground in yurrup. Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at October 20, 2022 10:29 PM (1DgE4) 108
76 Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:21 PM (eOEVl)
Hi Archimedes, what vital American national interest requires our escalating to WW3 to aid a nation whose paramilitaries could get you put on a terror watch list if you aided them 2 and half years ago? The American State Dept and DOD were both caught flatfooted by the Russian "adoption of the Crimea." https://tinyurl.com/yunjac6p A Primer on the matter, don't worry it is the unclassified version. Again, I remember these same fuckwits undermining our policy in Reagan's era....forgive me for not wanting WW3 with Silver Alert Retard in charge. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:29 PM (Lzpvj) 109
In a fraternity at Washington State, one of the brothers was a bit of a jerk. Two others had had enough and one night they tied him up, threw him in the car and drove to just outside Las Vegas. There they dumped him off wearing only his shorts, tee shirt and socks. They left him a dollar as well. They headed into town to grab some food, have a bit of fun, a nap and then headed back to Pullman.
The pantsless brother was soon picked up by the police. He explained to the cop what happened. Cop called the UNLV and finding the same fraternity there, takes the kid to them. Those guys fixed the kid up with clothes and got him a flight back to Pullman. When the two instigators dragged themselves back in from the 15 hour drive, there was the kid sitting on the couch drinking a beer. None of the three returned to WSU the next year. Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2022 10:29 PM (anj39) 110
also hate Tears for Fears: "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" with a burning passion.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:19 PM (eyxn4) Too bad, that is a great song. Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 10:29 PM (aYpFd) Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:30 PM (Xrfse) 112
Zelensky's stated aim is to get Russia out of his country. Where did he say he wanted to start WWIII?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:12 PM (eOEVl) The Donbas and related areas, nor the people who live there, are no longer part of his country, so he has no claim to them. He has sought a fast track to join NATO, and keeps trying to declare that he's already part of it, which if allowed, would immediately put NATO at war with Russia, which is by definition, WW3. He's also called for pre-emptive nuclear strikes on Russia in retaliation for the tactical nukes he keeps telling us the Russians are days away from using. Which is again, WW3. Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 10:30 PM (kOpft) 113
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Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 10:23 PM (IpSZQ) Yep. Quite a few songs on there I liked and still do. Others, like "Baby Shark" are irritating as hell (was introduced to it by a father of young kids; mine were past that point, thank God). Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:30 PM (ynpvh) 114
Good evening everyone
Sharkman~congratulations on a purpose filled work! May God bless your work that those you work with will grow in wisdom and favor with God and man. Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 10:31 PM (fivxw) 115
The Bass Pro video left out the best part -- the restaurant at the top decorated with steampunk fish.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 20, 2022 10:31 PM (nfrXX) 116
Shan't be making it to the TxMoMe this year. I simply shannot.
The reason is good. So I wish all the TxMoMe-ers a good time! Maybe next year. Posted by: Sharkman Good on you Sharkman - don't tell anyone, but we think you are good man. I, and the lovely Mrs., also are having to miss it. We were sooooo close. Sixty miles close as of yesterday. But a knotty family situation coughed up and we now have the grands with us back at our (new) place in TN. It's all good but a BBQ/shoot'n outing is no place for two littles struggling - although I did teach the 3 year old to pee in the gravel this week. It will come in handy many times throughout his life. Well, try again next time. At least for the next time it's only a one day drive. Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 10:32 PM (5laLd) Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:32 PM (Xrfse) 118
Which is sad in some sense; seems like I may be decended from some of those blood-thirsty "peaceful" natives, so knowing a little more about them would've been...interesting.
I've always thought that the burning of the Library of Alexandria was one of history's greatest tragedies. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:32 PM (eOEVl) 119
>>Pretty sure.
We have been funding his war and his government while providing him intelligence and logistical support from Day 1 in a war we don't really have a dog in. We have know for years what Putin's red line was and we purposely crossed it an unlike Obama Putin means it when he sets a red line. Without us this war would have been over in a week. Along with Zelensky refusing to implement the Minsk Agreements pushing NATO membership for Ukraine was always going to set off Russia. We've known this for years and we got an example in Georgia after the 2008 NATO summit in Bucharest were Putin laid down his red line, no further eastward expansion of NATO. I'd like to know where our State Dept and DOD end and Ukraine starts cause from where I sit there doesn't seem to be much of a line. Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 10:32 PM (ZLI7S) 120
He's also called for pre-emptive nuclear strikes on Russia in retaliation for the tactical nukes he keeps telling us the Russians are days away from using. Which is again, WW3.
Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 10:30 PM (kOpft) He's a complete bastard Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:32 PM (Zzbjj) 121
111 Columbus died in 1506; so difinitively POST-Columbian...
In 1492, he sailed the blue. Heh. Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:30 PM (Xrfse) In 1493, Columbus sailed the deep blue sea (2nd trip) Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:33 PM (ynpvh) 122
The Spaniards had scribes who wrote down what people said, while they and the priest went around destroying as many Aztec codices as they could since it was "devil writing." A few codices have survived, but not many.
Posted by: pkudude99 at October 20, 2022 10:22 PM (WSLPW) We have no idea why they would think such a thing. Posted by: massive piles of skulls from human sacrifice at October 20, 2022 10:33 PM (cupoy) 123
119. McCain and Graham promised the Ukes a war back in 2017. It just took a while.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:33 PM (Zzbjj) 124
That long list, and they missed the actual MOST annoying song of all time! (they're too young) If you were around in the 70's, then you heard this song constantly, and I guarantee both that you heard it, and that were eventually annoyed to tears by it.
I give you - Popcorn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjxNnqTcHhg Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:33 PM (r46W7) 125
Please tell them all that it meant so much to me. This group is just absolutely the best. Miss you all so much.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer Done. {{{}}} Posted by: Some Rat, and fuck cancer at October 20, 2022 10:33 PM (lJmmt) 126
112 Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 10:30 PM (kOpft)
I am certain if Canada allied with Russia and allowed Quebec to be plebiscited into a Russian satellite it'd be totally cool with the neocons. In a sane world they would have listened to people like me in 1991 and Marshall planned the hell out of the region and invited Russia into NATO along with the entirety of the former USSR for diplomatic cover. We are not in a sane world. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:34 PM (Lzpvj) 127
Oh Tonypete that's too bad I'll see ya there next year!
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 20, 2022 10:34 PM (nxdel) Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:34 PM (Xrfse) 129
124 That long list, and they missed the actual MOST annoying song of all time! (they're too young) If you were around in the 70's, then you heard this song constantly, and I guarantee both that you heard it, and that were eventually annoyed to tears by it.
I give you - Popcorn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjxNnqTcHhg Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:33 PM (r46W7) I remember that one. Boop, boop, BOOP, Boop boop-boop, boop... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:34 PM (ynpvh) 130
I've always thought that the burning of the Library of Alexandria was one of history's greatest tragedies.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:32 PM (eOEVl) So did Liz Taylor. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:35 PM (r46W7) 131
Apparently there are only 3 or 4 Mayan codices still in existence. The most famous one is held in Dresden. Hopefully the Germans wont burn it to stay warm this winter.
As for Aztec codices according to Wiki the three surviving are in dispute as to being pre-Cortez or not. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:35 PM (DTrmb) 132
Manilow is one of the greatest song writers that kind. Right up there with Neil Diamond and Billy Joel.
Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 10:12 PM (aYpFd) *ahem* I actually wrote the song that makes the young girls cry, not Manilow. Posted by: Longtime replacement Beach Boy Bruce Johnston at October 20, 2022 10:35 PM (4I/2K) 133
And no, I do not agree that making government bigger and more powerful is the key to beating the left. The exact opposite of what we need.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 10:24 PM (ZLI7S) The problem is, the left has to be destroyed where it is in government, which requires the dismantling of the DoJ and other intelligence apparatus, and the FDA, and the IRS. The left also has to be destroyed where it is in corporate boardrooms, and some organized manpower, legal if possible, kinetic if not, is going to be necessary to deal with that. And groups like, by probably not limited to, BLM and antifa, which again, will require a lot of manpower of some sort. Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 10:35 PM (kOpft) 134
In 1494
Columbus rowed back from Cuba and boy were his arms sore Posted by: Sandy at October 20, 2022 10:35 PM (Qzn2/) 135
128 In 1493, Columbus sailed the deep blue sea (2nd trip)
I get my years mixed up. Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:34 PM (Xrfse) Hey, I cheated. Four trips: 1492, 1493, 1498, 1502. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:35 PM (ynpvh) Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:36 PM (Xrfse) 137
42 @sven I was part of the LGF crowd, one of the last Mohicans when Charles was sending the greats to the hinterlands.
I am / was Army Wife. Obviously I am no more as I am not married to the a**hat anymore. Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 10:36 PM (0GTCG) 138
I've always thought that the burning of the Library of Alexandria was one of history's greatest tragedies.
Which time? I can think of three times it caught fire. When Julius Caesar visited Kleopatra VII. Hypatia. And finally the Islamic conquest of Egypt. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:36 PM (DTrmb) 139
I, and the lovely Mrs., also are having to miss it. We were sooooo close. Sixty miles close as of yesterday. But a knotty family situation coughed up and we now have the grands with us back at our (new) place in TN. It's all good but a BBQ/shoot'n outing is no place for two littles struggling - although I did teach the 3 year old to pee in the gravel this week. It will come in handy many times throughout his life.
Well, try again next time. At least for the next time it's only a one day drive. Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 10:32 PM (5laLd) I'm so sorry TonyPete - to get so close and have to turn around!!! But I know how those family situations go. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (r46W7) 140
99 Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:27 PM (DTrmb)
Japan was striving to use every corner of the NBC triangle on Allied forces in 45. Anyone capable of dispassionate analysis understands that, sadly that does not include many current history professors. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (Lzpvj) 141
So.. the horde in Corsicana did this thing.. and I can't get over it. Love and miss you all so much!
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 20, 2022 10:00 PM What is "this thing"? Posted by: Zettai at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (LeCXZ) 142
I'll see ya there next year!
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer You better see us ALL! or we're gonna be pissed! (smiley face icon here) Posted by: Some Rat, and fuck cancer at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (lJmmt) Posted by: Trolling Jingo Ukie-Biden-Bots for fun and profit at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (fBpek) 144
The government will have to become, in the hands of conservatives, an instrument of renewal in American life — and in some cases, a blunt instrument indeed.
The moment where the right gave up trying to "legislating morality" is the moment where the left took over our society. Consider back when Operation Rescue was the biggest protest organization in America and Republicans actually seemed to sort of care about social issues. No gay marriage. No trannies. No "child friendly" drag shows. We were freer then. And it wasn't because the right was more libertarian. A paradox? Not really. When you stop fighting unilaterally the enemy moves forward. Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (ESjRY) 145
Hey, I cheated. Four trips: 1492, 1493, 1498, 1502.
When you think about it, that is truly amazing. Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (Xrfse) 146
137 Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 10:36 PM (0GTCG)
Welcome home, if you recall I told Chunk to go fuck himself and said I quit. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (Lzpvj) 147
I hate that song "little ditty about Jack and Diane". Only song I can think of that I will have to change channel or turn off.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (fivxw) Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (IpSZQ) 149
The Donbas and related areas, nor the people who live there, are no longer part of his country, so he has no claim to them.
Seriously? He has sought a fast track to join NATO, and keeps trying to declare that he's already part of it, which if allowed, would immediately put NATO at war with Russia, which is by definition, WW3. The idea is to prevent Russia from starting wars, by making it clear that an assault on Ukraine would involve NATO, and sure Russian destruction. His country is fighting for its life. Why wouldn't he do everything he could to save it? Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (eOEVl) 150
Here's a great prank:
2004 Harvard-Yale game. At Harvard. Yale students, disguised as a Harvard pep squad, distribute placards to Harvard fans' seats. At halftime, they lift their cards, which read 'we suck.' Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (NuG8b) 151
He's also called for pre-emptive nuclear strikes on Russia in retaliation for the tactical nukes he keeps telling us the Russians are days away from using. Which is again, WW3.
I've read the comment, and in all honesty, I don't know what it means. For what it's worth, Zelensky’s press secretary, Serhii Nikiforov, clarified that the Ukrainian president did not call for a nuclear strike on the Russian Federation. “The president was speaking about the period before February 24. Preventative measures should have been used at that time to prevent Russia from unleashing a war. I will remind you that the only measures discussed at that time were preventative sanctions,” he said. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (eOEVl) 152
131 Apparently there are only 3 or 4 Mayan codices still in existence. The most famous one is held in Dresden. Hopefully the Germans wont burn it to stay warm this winter.
As for Aztec codices according to Wiki the three surviving are in dispute as to being pre-Cortez or not. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:35 PM (DTrmb) One of my ancestors had the last name of Montezuma (she lived in the mid-to-late 1600's). Haven't been able to trace back further yet. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (ynpvh) 153
Whether the people of Donbas are independent, join Russia, or Ukraine ethnically cleanses them will have no impact on America.
And yet we have large portions of the left demanding we start a nuclear apocalypse over the question. One wonders what leftist activists of say 2006 would say if you described the current world situation to them. Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (ESjRY) Posted by: Some Rat, and fuck cancer at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (lJmmt) 155
Dang it! If I’d known the MoMee was going to get rolling Thursday, I’d have taken today off, too.
You snooze, you lose,I guess. Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 20, 2022 10:39 PM (iZEhM) 156
147 I hate that song "little ditty about Jack and Diane". Only song I can think of that I will have to change channel or turn off.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (fivxw) it's the chilidog part, isn't it? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:39 PM (ynpvh) 157
Agadoo, Do, Do, Push Pineapple
Posted by: Lt. Gov. John Fetterman! at October 20, 2022 10:39 PM (lzd36) 158
147 I hate that song "little ditty about Jack and Diane". Only song I can think of that I will have to change channel or turn off.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (fivxw) --------- Who sucks on a chili dog anyway? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 10:40 PM (Qzn2/) Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 10:40 PM (5laLd) 160
148 Here is the worst song ever:
https://youtu.be/xfq_A8nXMsQ Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (IpSZQ) Why wasn't Yoko on the list? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:40 PM (ynpvh) 161
151. Utter crap. He called for preemptive strikes so that Russia would know what it was like to be hit by nukes and not do it. Zelensky probably found himself amusing. I detest the man.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:40 PM (Zzbjj) 162
>>The problem is, the left has to be destroyed where it is in government, which requires the dismantling of the DoJ and other intelligence apparatus, and the FDA, and the IRS.
Exactly. And more. The DOE comes to mind as well. But not by making them bigger, as you said by destroying them or at least dismantling them and making them much smaller and less powerful. The left is the party of big government. They dominate the bureaucracy everywhere it springs up. There's a reason DC and surrounding areas votes 95% for Democrats. Whatever agency we make will eventually be taken over by the left. Defund and dismantle. Send power back to the states where it was always intended to be. Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 10:40 PM (ZLI7S) Posted by: Barkey at October 20, 2022 10:40 PM (5laLd) 164
Which time? I can think of three times it caught fire. When Julius Caesar visited Kleopatra VII. Hypatia. And finally the Islamic conquest of Egypt. The first, because so much of antiquity was lost, although the thought of lost books is always sad. I gather that many of the classical world documents that eventually made their way back to Europe during the Renaissance originated there. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:41 PM (eOEVl) Posted by: Sandra Flook at October 20, 2022 10:41 PM (Xrfse) 166
Who sucks on a chili dog anyway?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 10:40 PM (Qzn2/) Kamala eats them through a garden hose. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 10:41 PM (IpSZQ) 167
147 I hate that song "little ditty about Jack and Diane". Only song I can think of that I will have to change channel or turn off.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (fivxw) I hate it too. 160 Anything Lennon did with Yoko is shit, too Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:42 PM (Zzbjj) 168
I wish there was some way to get an honest assessment of how the Ukrainians feel about their nation. Obvious Russian subterfuge is obvious, but it does sometimes feel like a place that wanted to break up into a thousand little pieces Yugoslavia style, but was tenuously held together by some combination of corruption and fear of its neighbor.
Posted by: CppThis at October 20, 2022 10:42 PM (UewuT) 169
Sven
The idiots in DC right now are giving me the same vibe as those yutzes in Tokyo. To save face they are willing to kill millions. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:42 PM (DTrmb) 170
One wonders what leftist activists of say 2006 would say if you described the current world situation to them.
I don't generally base my own policy preferences on the logic and consistency of the left. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:42 PM (eOEVl) 171
I am certain if Canada allied with Russia and allowed Quebec to be plebiscited into a Russian satellite it'd be totally cool with the neocons.
I know you're being sarcastic, sven, I just note that Canada basically is doing that with the ChiComs, and the neocons don't care in the slightest. Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 10:42 PM (kOpft) 172
Any list of shit songs that doesn't include 4 Non Blonde's What's Up? is incomplete.
Mrs Jones by Counting Crows is another one that belongs on there. Strokin' by Clarence Carter. Now you have a trinity of awfulness. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2022 10:42 PM (KFhLj) 173
158 147 I hate that song "little ditty about Jack and Diane". Only song I can think of that I will have to change channel or turn off.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (fivxw) --------- Who sucks on a chili dog anyway? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 10:40 PM (Qzn2/) "The best way to eat 'em"--Kamala Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:42 PM (ynpvh) 174
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (ESjRY)
The left was thrilled to bomb Belgrade due to ethnic cleansing...but Zelensky is so fucking Churchillian that it's now cool Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:43 PM (Zzbjj) 175
Why wasn't Yoko on the list?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:40 PM (ynpvh) Well, I don't think Yoko's "efforts" actually rise to the level of "song". Screeches and grunts, mostly. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 10:43 PM (IpSZQ) Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:43 PM (eOEVl) 177
149 Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (eOEVl)
The Ukraine missed the boat on being in NATo absent an atomic war ~1997. Sorry just the way it is, when a nuclear rival says "daddy says no" and means it that is what happens. Further the neocon cabal of erectile dysfunction power brokers toppled a guy Putin cheated in fair and square and expected I guess no blowback. All of this would leave me MUCH more impressed if Ukraine was not bribing our political class. I do not want the selling of American blood and community chest to be so openly bought so cheaply. I sincerely want the Ukies to beat the shit out of Russia, I do not want Biden getting away with worse shit than Reagan got shit for with Iran Contra. Thanks. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:44 PM (Lzpvj) 178
tell me, why exactly couldnt ukraine abide by the minsk agreements?
Too easy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at October 20, 2022 10:44 PM (1DgE4) 179
175 Why wasn't Yoko on the list?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:40 PM (ynpvh) Well, I don't think Yoko's "efforts" actually rise to the level of "song". Screeches and grunts, mostly. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 10:43 PM (IpSZQ) Virus is to animals as Yoko's screeches are to songs? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:44 PM (ynpvh) 180
145 Hey, I cheated. Four trips: 1492, 1493, 1498, 1502.
When you think about it, that is truly amazing. Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (Xrfse) On his 4th and final journey, the entire expedition was shipwrecked on Jamaica, and the Spanish Governor of Hispaniola knew he was there but let them all sit on the beach there for a year before he sent any relief, because the two men hated each other. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:44 PM (r46W7) 181
Who sucks on a chili dog anyway?
Posted by: Cicero Yoooo Hooo!! Posted by: Barkey at October 20, 2022 10:40 PM (5laLd) Well... Posted by: Sandra Flook at October 20, 2022 10:41 PM (Xrfse) Bitches, please! Posted by: Kamala at October 20, 2022 10:44 PM (7bRMQ) 182
110 also hate Tears for Fears: "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" with a burning passion.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:19 PM (eyxn4) Too bad, that is a great song. Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 10:29 PM (aYpFd) ---------------------------- I join bonhomme on this one. Every Tears For Fears song makes me yawn. The guy sounds like he is on the cusp of yawning all the time. I can't take it. Merely typing this is making me yawn. Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 20, 2022 10:44 PM (RG7Wy) 183
Well, I don't think Yoko's "efforts" actually rise to the level of "song". Screeches and grunts, mostly.
Yet, we were admonished that it was "art". Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:44 PM (Xrfse) 184
I forget who but someone opined that the reason the Library of Alexandria never recovered from the Islamic destruction of their collection was because Islam had conquered all the other great cities and had destroyed the books there so there was no way for Alexandria to compile them again.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:45 PM (DTrmb) 185
The post about Conservatives: Why does anyone link to a post that doesn’t allow comments? STOP DOING THAT!!!!!!
Posted by: JackWayne at October 20, 2022 10:45 PM (QCu82) 186
That list of songs goes on forever.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 10:45 PM (63Dwl) 187
180 145 Hey, I cheated. Four trips: 1492, 1493, 1498, 1502.
When you think about it, that is truly amazing. Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (Xrfse) On his 4th and final journey, the entire expedition was shipwrecked on Jamaica, and the Spanish Governor of Hispaniola knew he was there but let them all sit on the beach there for a year before he sent any relief, because the two men hated each other. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:44 PM (r46W7) Cortez' story is interesting. He was a real bastard and may of killed his first wife to marry better, but he DID care for his mixed-race child with Malinche. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:45 PM (ynpvh) 188
171 Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 10:42 PM (kOpft)
Indeed, which again leaves me SINGULARLY unimpressed with the neocon protestations of "just war." I do not want a borderline extinction level event because a group of socialists are still pissed off about pogroms from the Tsar era. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:45 PM (Lzpvj) 189
186 That list of songs goes on forever.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 10:45 PM (63Dwl) Songs to play in Hell? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (ynpvh) 190
Worst song for me. Wildfire.
Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (lJmmt) 191
Prank?
High school biology class, once we were done dissecting the fetal pig, I cut the little fella's head off, somehow slipped out of class undetected with it and placed it face up, mouth agape, in one of the toilets in the girl's bathroom. The screams were glorious. Was never caught. Heh. Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (Gda1b) 192
One of my ancestors had the last name of Montezuma (she lived in the mid-to-late 1600's). Haven't been able to trace back further yet.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (ynpvh) Are you her revenge on the rest of us? Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (r46W7) 193
190 Worst song for me. Wildfire.
Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (lJmmt) Hoot Owl screeching at my windows x nights in a row = I'm a gonna die? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:47 PM (ynpvh) 194
Posted by: JackWayne at October 20, 2022 10:45 PM (QCu82) And another long-time commenter expresses dissatisfaction. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 10:47 PM (IpSZQ) Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 10:47 PM (fivxw) 196
@178
tell me, why exactly couldnt ukraine abide by the minsk agreements? Amid rising tensions between Russia and Ukraine in early 2022, Russia officially recognised the Luhansk and Donetsk people's republics on 21 February 2022.[8] Following that decision, on 22 February 2022, Russian president Vladimir Putin declared that the Minsk agreements "no longer existed", and that Ukraine, not Russia, was to blame for their collapse.[9] Russia then invaded Ukraine on 24 February 2022. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:47 PM (eOEVl) 197
146. I do remember that now that you say it! He tried to get me back if I promised to be a good girl, I told him thank you, but no. I think he had banned people to the point of implosion by then and I truly was nice to him longer than I should have been.
Do you remember my fight with Brett Baier? I was shocked I didn’t get hit with the ban stick for that little performance of mine. He was arrogant piece of garbage, in my defense. I forget what name he used. I did get my hand slapped with a ruler for calling out who he really was. Sadly, I only remember the fireworks from that 3 day fight, I don’t even remember what started it! Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 10:47 PM (0GTCG) 198
169 Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:42 PM (DTrmb)
We are LITERALLY where the Soviets were when Brezhnev died, a group of conspiratorial collectivists are reaching the age of drop dead spontaneously and are seeing their world view rejected. Their tantrums may end prosperity globally. I pray a lot these days. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:47 PM (Lzpvj) 199
192 One of my ancestors had the last name of Montezuma (she lived in the mid-to-late 1600's). Haven't been able to trace back further yet.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (ynpvh) Are you her revenge on the rest of us? Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (r46W7) Hey, at least I don't cut out beating hearts...except maybe in bio class as a kid. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:48 PM (ynpvh) 200
I like that Muppets song.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 10:48 PM (63Dwl) 201
best practical joke I played on someone was back in the 90's when email was just starting to gain a real foothold. I learned about 'auto-reply' and so when a manager left his desk (he was a real practical joker) I snuck over and made an auto-reply that said "Hey! I won the Geek of the Week award!"
For the next day or so I kept hearing him say to people on the phone "What award?!?!" He kept getting more frantic and louder but he had no idea he was sending a message to everyone who emailed him. I'd be fired these days, but I got away with it in email's salad days. Posted by: 496 at October 20, 2022 10:48 PM (zu7dC) 202
Do they know it's Christmas? is my nomination.
NO!! You simple f*ck! Only 1/4 of the world's population is even Christian. Sheesh! Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 10:48 PM (5laLd) 203
Worst song ever?
When making an anime music video, the one you just set clips of My Hero Academia to. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:48 PM (DTrmb) Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:48 PM (Xrfse) 205
191 Prank?
High school biology class, once we were done dissecting the fetal pig, I cut the little fella's head off, somehow slipped out of class undetected with it and placed it face up, mouth agape, in one of the toilets in the girl's bathroom. The screams were glorious. Was never caught. Heh. Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (Gda1b) A skinned and disected cat ended up hanging from the top of the drive through entrance one year at a fast food place... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:48 PM (ynpvh) 206
Worst song in music history is either "What's Up?" by 4 Non-Blondes, or "Chucky's In Love" by Rickie Lee Jones.
Just the wurst. Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 10:49 PM (Gda1b) Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:49 PM (eyxn4) 208
197 Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 10:47 PM (0GTCG)
There was a lot of drama, I recall you and he going round. What made up my mind was when Ed the Weather Guy was "too radical." I had been here for a long while as well, and did my most serious posting at a wargaming site and at Ed Morrisey's Captain's Quarters....God what a born again limp loser Ed morphed into. Glad you are here Piper. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:49 PM (Lzpvj) 209
199 192 One of my ancestors had the last name of Montezuma (she lived in the mid-to-late 1600's). Haven't been able to trace back further yet.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:38 PM (ynpvh) Are you her revenge on the rest of us? Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (r46W7) Hey, at least I don't cut out beating hearts...except maybe in bio class as a kid. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:48 PM (ynpvh) And my food sometimes feels like revenge after it's passed though the digestive track... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:49 PM (ynpvh) 210
Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (lJmmt)
She ran callin' Wiiild Fire Seh ran callin' wiiiild fire She ran callin' wii-ii-ii-ii-ii-ii-iiild fire! You're welcome Posted by: Lt. Gov. John Fetterman! at October 20, 2022 10:49 PM (lzd36) 211
177 The Ukraine missed the boat on being in NATo absent an atomic war ~1997. Sorry just the way it is, when a nuclear rival says "daddy says no" and means it that is what happens. Further the neocon cabal of erectile dysfunction power brokers toppled a guy Putin cheated in fair and square and expected I guess no blowback.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:44 PM (Lzpvj) Totally agree that the time to do something meaningful was the 90s. All outcomes from this point involve regional devastation. Posted by: CppThis at October 20, 2022 10:50 PM (UewuT) 212
202 Do they know it's Christmas? is my nomination.
NO!! You simple f*ck! Only 1/4 of the world's population is even Christian. Sheesh! Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 10:48 PM (5laLd) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bkwuAzts9o Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:50 PM (ynpvh) 213
Muskrat Love.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 20, 2022 10:50 PM (NuG8b) Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 10:50 PM (5laLd) 215
Ahem. Even my youngsters know that the worst song ever is "Up, up and away"
A close second is "Fly, Robin, Fly" Posted by: 496 at October 20, 2022 10:51 PM (zu7dC) 216
The Donbas and related areas, nor the people who live there, are no longer part of his country, so he has no claim to them.
Seriously? Yes, seriously. Back when Ukraine had a legitimate government, the Ukrainian people elected leaders who were friendly with Russia. Those voters tended to be in the eastern end of the country, with the greatest concentration in the areas that Putin said he was going to, and has now claimed. They have been fighting against the false government in Kiev ever since the CIA overthrew it in the 2014 revolution, because they rightly want no part of it. Zelensky has no legitimate claim to those voters or the land they live on, and it's clear they've accepted Russia's offer to join it rather than continue to be subject to random bombardments from Kiev's US-supplied troops Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 10:51 PM (kOpft) Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2022 10:51 PM (anj39) 218
196. Zelensky's shelling of that area had fuck all to do with it? rofl
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:51 PM (Zzbjj) 219
Sven
Yeah that applies also. When someone has gone full Ebeneezer Scrooge and devoted themselves fully to worldly gain only to reach the twilight years to realize they really have nothing. Bunny broilers have nothing on them for going cray-cray. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:51 PM (DTrmb) 220
210 Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (lJmmt)
She ran callin' Wiiild Fire Seh ran callin' wiiiild fire She ran callin' wii-ii-ii-ii-ii-ii-iiild fire! You're welcome Posted by: Lt. Gov. John Fetterman! at October 20, 2022 10:49 PM (lzd36) The pony was a killer She was stupid to follow in the snow. Why the hell was he waiting for her after all that time? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:52 PM (ynpvh) Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:52 PM (Xrfse) 222
I had been here for a long while as well, and did my most serious posting at a wargaming site and at Ed Morrisey's Captain's Quarters....God what a born again limp loser Ed morphed into. Glad you are here Piper. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:49 PM (Lzpvj) I think I started off posting back at Captain's Quarters. I cannot believe the person who wrote that blog is the same person who calls himself Ed Morrisey today. Not possible. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:52 PM (r46W7) Posted by: Hurricane Smith at October 20, 2022 10:52 PM (NOlOe) 224
I do wonder what orders the Russians have right now if the US does a first strike.
Respond in kind with tacticals? Full on nuclear apocalypse? Or...nuke DC/NYC/Chicago and hope to get a more rational American government? Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 10:52 PM (ESjRY) 225
220 210 Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (lJmmt)
She ran callin' Wiiild Fire Seh ran callin' wiiiild fire She ran callin' wii-ii-ii-ii-ii-ii-iiild fire! You're welcome Posted by: Lt. Gov. John Fetterman! at October 20, 2022 10:49 PM (lzd36) The pony was a killer She was stupid to follow in the snow. Why the hell was he waiting for her after all that time? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:52 PM (ynpvh) Oh, and shoot that F'n hoot owl. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:53 PM (ynpvh) 226
223. yep, that sucked. but One Tin Soldier sucked too
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:53 PM (Zzbjj) 227
Zelensky has no legitimate claim to those voters or the land they live on, and it's clear they've accepted Russia's offer to join it rather than continue to be subject to random bombardments from Kiev's US-supplied troops
Clearly. That's why the recent referendum was so open and honest. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:53 PM (eOEVl) 228
There was indeed much epically shitty music in the last half of the last Century... I blame electronics... Posted by: Zettai at October 20, 2022 10:53 PM (0e0Pb) 229
221 I like that Muppets song.
Eh. Not enough upright bass. Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:52 PM (Xrfse) Kermit the frog was responsible, in some way, for 9-11... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (ynpvh) 230
That damned hoot owl was a pisser.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (Xrfse) 231
If the people of Donbas want to leave Ukraine, and it seems they do, they have the same right that we acted on in 1776.
Putin may be a corrupt asshole...but then again so is Zelensky. And Biden for that matter. Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (ESjRY) 232
That sounds like a Talking Heads song - Serial Killer Pony.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (DTrmb) 233
226 223. yep, that sucked. but One Tin Soldier sucked too
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:53 PM (Zzbjj) Billy don't be a hero. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (r46W7) Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (KFhLj) 235
>>Amid rising tensions between Russia and Ukraine in early 2022, Russia officially recognised the Luhansk and Donetsk people's republics on 21 February 2022.
You forgot the preceding paragraph which basically says Ukraine never implemented or honored the Minsk Agreements. Putin is a brutal dictator. He's not our friend. But we do not have clean hands in Ukraine either and I've yet to find anyone who can tell me what our strategic interest in Ukraine is. The idea that Putin was going to take the rest of Europe if he took the Donbas was never true. He just wanted us to stop screwing around in a country he has always considered more Russian than western and sits right on his front door. Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (ZLI7S) 236
233. Definitely in the Shit Pantheon
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (Zzbjj) 237
In a way, there is an analogy to WWI here. Then England had a treaty obligation and not going to war meant the world was a much less safe place.
Now we have a moral obligation but the result is the same. I don't see a way out, but I didn't see a way out back in Feb. other than wishcasting a coup on Putin. If we walk away now it means nuclear powers can eat up their neighbors. I just wan the war mongers on the left to explain how they think this is realistically going to end. Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (WCzQY) 238
"In the dark of the moon I planted,
but there came an early snow." Early snow is Aug. what the hell are ya doing planting in August?! Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (lJmmt) 239
234 Tutti Frutti also sucks really hard.
So does Little Richard. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (KFhLj) (In Living Color?) skit, where they say, "Next week, Little Richard in 'African Queen'" Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:55 PM (ynpvh) Posted by: Helen Reddy at October 20, 2022 10:55 PM (lzd36) 241
Song question: I just drove across country with my niece - about 25 years younger.
What's the best road-trip song? My current vote is Me and Bobby McGee. Would welcome other thoughts as we're creating a songlist for the next day or so. Posted by: 496 at October 20, 2022 10:55 PM (zu7dC) 242
MacArthur Park.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 20, 2022 10:56 PM (NuG8b) 243
237. I don't see an obligation to Ukraine, and that turd should sit his ass down and negotiate an end
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:56 PM (Zzbjj) 244
Did Martika's "Toy Soldiers" make the list?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:56 PM (DTrmb) 245
238 "In the dark of the moon I planted,
but there came an early snow." Early snow is Aug. what the hell are ya doing planting in August?! Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (lJmmt) Maybe he was from Austrailia? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:56 PM (ynpvh) 246
One of the more fun practical joke I ever personally accomplished was to scoop out a slice of apple pie, and then carefully slide a set mousetrap into the crust. Then pack the sides with the filling and serve.
Awesome. Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2022 10:56 PM (anj39) 247
My ding a ling
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 10:56 PM (63Dwl) 248
What's the best road-trip song?
My current vote is Me and Bobby McGee. Would welcome other thoughts as we're creating a songlist for the next day or so. Posted by: 496 Radar Love has to be on that playlist. Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 10:56 PM (5laLd) Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 10:56 PM (Xrfse) 250
242 MacArthur Park.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 20, 2022 10:56 PM (NuG8b) Still trying to figure out how he lost the recipe Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:56 PM (ynpvh) 251
Amid rising tensions between Russia and Ukraine in early 2022, Russia officially recognised the Luhansk and Donetsk people's republics on 21 February 2022.[8] Following that decision, on 22 February 2022, Russian president Vladimir Putin declared that the Minsk agreements "no longer existed", and that Ukraine, not Russia, was to blame for their collapse.[9] Russia then invaded Ukraine on 24 February 2022. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:47 PM (eOEVl) You would think they might work things out in SEVEN FUCKING YEARS! Minsk II, February 2015 Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (1DgE4) 252
David Naughton, who was in American Werewolf In London, did not sing songs of comparable value. This one always cracks me up, he was on the Merv Griffin show in the late 70s, the audience is about 100 years older than he is, he is prancing around the stage. You can tell he knows how bad this is bombing.
Makin It! https://tinyurl.com/mr38czj8 Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (RG7Wy) 253
248 What's the best road-trip song?
My current vote is Me and Bobby McGee. Would welcome other thoughts as we're creating a songlist for the next day or so. Posted by: 496 Radar Love has to be on that playlist. Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 10:56 PM (5laLd) 99 bottles? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (ynpvh) 254
I didn't know the chili dog lyrics, so I had to look up that stupid song. I put this next song in the same catagory of hate. Wasn't even sure they were different songs until I looked them up. So...the other song I hate is glory days.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (fivxw) 255
'Honey" by Bobby Goldsboro. "see the tree, how big it's grown..."
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (r46W7) 256
Best Prank? Navy Nuc School, Orlando Fla, 1980. 'Someone' has left material they were NOT supposed to have out of the classroom, in a barracks lounge, which got everyone there investigated...
Well... it was pretty clear who did it... 4 days later, one half of his barracks room was filled up with waded up newspapers. Posted by: Romeo13 at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (oHd/0) 257
237 Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 20, 2022 10:54 PM (WCzQY)
All I know is official US policy holds that the most sacred borders on Earth are in the Ukraine, that the entirety of American defense capability should be molded to Ukrainian needs, and that America should not have energy independence but the Ukraine's energy grid is sacrosanct. I may lobby to change my town's name to Keev so the democrats will love it. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (Lzpvj) Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (DTrmb) 259
My current vote is Me and Bobby McGee. Would welcome other thoughts as we're creating a songlist for the next day or so.
Posted by: 496 Radar Love. Comes on and the next thing you know, you're doing 90. Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (lJmmt) 260
Good evening morons and the horde in Corsicana
Thanks wd. Most annoying pop song, "Billy Don't Be a Hero" Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (EZebt) 261
"In the dark of the moon I planted, but there came an early snow." It was the dark of the moon On the sixth of June In a Kenworth, pullin' logs Cabover Pete with a reefer on And a Jimmy haulin' hogs Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 10:58 PM (63Dwl) 262
255 'Honey" by Bobby Goldsboro. "see the tree, how big it's grown..."
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (r46W7) "Having my Baby"...makes some lists Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 10:58 PM (ynpvh) 263
251. McCain promised them a war! Lindsey, too. It was postponed by the lack of Hillary.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:58 PM (Zzbjj) 264
And another long-time commenter expresses dissatisfaction.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 10:47 PM (IpSZQ) -------- The joke's on him. The complaint window doesn't open until 10 a.m. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 10:58 PM (Qzn2/) Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 10:58 PM (lJmmt) 266
The idea is to prevent Russia from starting wars
Russia has every bit as much right to "start" wars (as you myopically choose to put it) as the USA does. Their actions in Ukraine are as justified as ours against Cuba and Iraq (both the final operation to unseat Saddam, and the previous operations to protect the Kurds and such) because they're based on the same reasons. Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 10:58 PM (kOpft) 267
I'll get my ass kicked by the Springsteen haters, but Nebraska is a great road trip album.
Posted by: 496 at October 20, 2022 10:58 PM (zu7dC) 268
Because DC used them to launder money and bio-weapons?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (DTrmb) Ha. An immoral obligation to a blackmailer? Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:58 PM (Zzbjj) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2022 10:58 PM (1Nxff) 270
247 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 10:56 PM (63Dwl)
Oh god.... Keep your hands to yourself.... I had burnt it out but now it is back. https://youtu.be/WonOudGMSdc Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 10:59 PM (Lzpvj) 271
>>>The Champs 'Tequila'
No. You're an idiot. That's a great song. >>>Starship 'We Built This City' Ok, you got that one right. You're not complete idiot. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 20, 2022 10:59 PM (gv7Yb) 272
193 @jim
Nope! Means you are lucky. So, keep this between us, but I am somewhat of a Disney Princess when it comes to forest creatures. My current wild pet is an owl (his name is Owlbert and he is a Great Horned Owl). I can go outside and call him, he will swoop in from wherever he was to our big oak tree and start hollering. Unfortunately, he has started to sit on the fence when he hears me in the pool (only me, he doesn’t love anyone else) and he is scratching the hades out of it. He has also started to call for me loudly at dawn. I have to go to the porch, tell him hi, and he will hoot and fly away. I haven’t been able to touch him, but he is definitely my owl. I am going to get a house put up in our oak tree for him for winter. Also, we don’t have many squirrels in our yard anymore. 😂 Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 10:59 PM (0GTCG) 273
Now we have a moral obligation but the result is the same. I don't see a way out, but I didn't see a way out back in Feb. other than wishcasting a coup on Putin. If we walk away now it means nuclear powers can eat up their neighbors.
The answer is actually pretty easy, but requires Biden and BoJo to be gone. You get Vlad to agree to another vote in the breakaway republics that's at least fairer then the 2020 US presidential election. The deal is he abides by the results and in Russian on Russian TV guarantees the remaining Uke borders. He'll agree...because he'd win the vote in Donbas, and likely the other two. The Ukes have made clear they are killing anyone with a Russian accent in Ukraine - no way the people in the East want to vote to die. Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 10:59 PM (ESjRY) 274
The US should have been trying to broker a peace between the two parties all along, but this administration launders their graft through Ukraine and the entire left has been obsessed with Russian boogeymen for the last 6 years.
=== This. And Russia, Russia, Russia! Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2022 10:59 PM (EZebt) 275
New evidence in pre-print that SARS-CoV-2 was engineered. This is not the Furin cleavage site observation.
Alex Washburne has a thread. https://bit.ly/3TWYvCj Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 10:59 PM (eyxn4) 276
The joke's on him. The complaint window doesn't open until 10 a.m.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) Moose out front shoulda told him. Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 10:59 PM (lJmmt) 277
271 >>>The Champs 'Tequila'
No. You're an idiot. That's a great song. >>>Starship 'We Built This City' Ok, you got that one right. You're not complete idiot. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 20, 2022 10:59 PM (gv7Yb) There is a difference between a song that has terrible lyrics, terrible music or both. Some of them had good music, just shitty lyrics. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:00 PM (ynpvh) 278
Damn, I hate the cheatin' Astros.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2022 11:00 PM (Xrfse) 279
> Tutti Frutti also sucks really hard.
The original lyrics make it very clear the song is about gay anal sex. Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2022 11:00 PM (eyxn4) 280
Young Girl.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 20, 2022 11:00 PM (NuG8b) 281
>>Back when Ukraine had a legitimate government, the >>Ukrainian people elected leaders who were friendly with Russia. Those voters tended to be in the eastern end of the country, with the greatest concentration in the areas that Putin said he was going to, and has now claimed. They have been fighting against the false government in Kiev ever since the CIA overthrew it in the 2014 revolution, because they rightly want no part of it.
Bingo. Not long before the start of the Ukraine war there was an uprising in Kazakstan that got little coverage in the west, of course. What coverage it did get was billed as a "grassroots uprising" against the government and who doesn't love those? Putin sent in troops to help put it down and then said clearly he would not allow anymore "color revolutions" in former Soviet satellites. He used the term color revolutions. We are all angry about the color revolution that was run against Trump by our intel agencies. Sadly, we do not have an army of our own. Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:00 PM (ZLI7S) 282
The joke's on him. The complaint window doesn't open until 10 a.m.
Last time I called with a complaint "Jim from Cleveland" told me he would "do the needful" and I got a $200 charge from Bangalore. Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:00 PM (ESjRY) 283
275. My money is on Gates paying for this.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:00 PM (Zzbjj) 284
Nope! Means you are lucky. So, keep this between us, but I am somewhat of a Disney Princess when it comes to forest creatures. My current wild pet is an owl (his name is Owlbert and he is a Great Horned Owl)
--------- She's a witch! Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 11:01 PM (Qzn2/) 285
You know what was a great damn song? That I haven't heard since I heard it first in the mid-70s?
"Beach Baby" by First Class: https://youtu.be/oeGPpwFpIAA Yes, I'm ancient. Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 11:01 PM (Gda1b) 286
258 What moral obligation?
Because DC used them to launder money and bio-weapons? Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 10:57 PM (DTrmb) Didn't Slick Willy play a role in convincing them to give up their Soviet-era nukes? That might put us on the hook for something. Posted by: CppThis at October 20, 2022 11:01 PM (UewuT) 287
"Understanding pandemic-emergent personality & behavioral psychopathology"
Interesting read with lots of big words and psychoanalysis. Bottom Line: the branch covidians are paranoid delusional lunatics. I like the expression 'covid neurotics', Need to start using that. Posted by: Ripley at October 20, 2022 11:02 PM (PTDkx) 288
Didn't Slick Willy play a role in convincing them to give up their Soviet-era nukes? That might put us on the hook for something.
Did the Senate vote on a treaty? Or was it Slick selling them a load of bullshit? I'm pretty sure its the latter. Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:02 PM (ESjRY) 289
280 Young Girl.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 20, 2022 11:00 PM (NuG8b) Wouldn've been Biden's theme song, except the lyrics would have to be changed from "get out of my mind" to "bring your head near mine" Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:02 PM (ynpvh) 290
281 Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:00 PM (ZLI7S)
Foggy Bottom and the Farm are a lot more impressed with color revolutions than I am... I am wondering why we were "strangely unable to pull these off" when the democrats' commie handlers were in charge of "Russia" (larping as the Soviet Union) Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:02 PM (Lzpvj) 291
Imagine
I hate it. Bunch of hippie bullsh*t https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg1ISl2u5Lg Babylon bee's version Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 11:02 PM (fivxw) Posted by: Seattle at October 20, 2022 11:03 PM (lJmmt) 293
My biggest impression from driving from VT to WY was how many trucks travel the heart of this land and how many of them carry things meant for making things.
In the northeast, you see UPS trucks and Amazon trucks, etc... Driving across Iowa and Nebraska I saw lots of oversize trucks carrying huge machine parts that will be cobbed on with other parts to make things that people in the northeast think just magically appear. They have no idea the work that goes into creating the world they think they know and love. Posted by: 496 at October 20, 2022 11:03 PM (zu7dC) 294
We are all angry about the color revolution that was run against Trump by our intel agencies. Sadly, we do not have an army of our own.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:00 PM (ZLI7S) So Ray Epps might be CIA, go figure. Why we have to support the nazi Azovs still baffles me. I guess if you stick the right fig leaf on them, they're fine? And no, our army fell to the Long March Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:03 PM (Zzbjj) 295
284 Nope! Means you are lucky. So, keep this between us, but I am somewhat of a Disney Princess when it comes to forest creatures. My current wild pet is an owl (his name is Owlbert and he is a Great Horned Owl)
--------- She's a witch! Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 11:01 PM (Qzn2/) Lets see if she can turn Harry Potter from a wizard to a lizard...I'm sure he'll be feeling better later. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:03 PM (ynpvh) 296
Hi Horde. Looking forward to a weekend of visiting. I have been baking like a fiend.
LADIES (and weirdos), I have found a conservative, Texas-based cosmetics company. Just after the Dobbs leak, they announced that 25% all sales over the weekend would be donated to their local pregnancy crisis center, so I made a purchase. I just made my second, and far from last. They are called A'Del Natural cosmetics and the quality is up there with any of the others I have used. Conservative, American made, family owned, excellent quality. https://adelnaturalcosmetics.com/ Posted by: Gingy at October 20, 2022 11:03 PM (GpUUo) 297
High school biology class, once we were done dissecting the fetal pig, I cut the little fella's head off, somehow slipped out of class undetected with it and placed it face up, mouth agape, in one of the toilets in the girl's bathroom.
Amateurs. Posted by: Medical Student Pranks! at October 20, 2022 11:04 PM (I2/tG) 298
"Give up your nukes" they said.
"We'll help defend you" they said. Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 20, 2022 11:04 PM (jTmQV) 299
Ok I have a prank.
In high school english class the teacher was reading from a book outloud. Some of his senior students came to the door and he was talking to them, ignoring us. I got up and got a different book, opened it to the same page number and put it on the lecturn, hiding the original. He finally finished, came back to start reading again. Looked confused, turned the page, kept turning the pages confused. We were all giggling. The bell rang, he closed the book in disgust and then realized it was a different book. Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 20, 2022 11:04 PM (GhQFN) 300
292 Damn, I hate the cheatin' Astros.
Posted by: Notorious BFD Get in line pal. Posted by: Seattle at October 20, 2022 11:03 PM (lJmmt) Do the deflate their balls? Oh, wrong sport. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:04 PM (ynpvh) 301
266 Their actions in Ukraine are as justified as ours against Cuba and Iraq (both the final operation to unseat Saddam, and the previous operations to protect the Kurds and such) because they're based on the same reasons.
Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 10:58 PM (kOpft) Not gonna lie, this does feel like a re-run of Iraq from the other guy's perspective. Posted by: CppThis at October 20, 2022 11:04 PM (UewuT) 302
With Clinton it was part of debt forgiveness for the Ukraine, Ukraine turned over to Russia all nuclear weapons, cruise missiles, and almost all Tu-22M3 Backfire and Tu-22 Blinder bombers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:04 PM (DTrmb) 303
Didn't Slick Willy play a role in convincing them to give up their Soviet-era nukes? That might put us on the hook for something.
Posted by: CppThis at October 20, 2022 11:01 PM (UewuT) Not to me it doesn't. And we also made empty promises not to expand NATO. I guess Ukraine is Putin's "line in the sand". Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:04 PM (Zzbjj) 304
294 Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:03 PM (Zzbjj)
3 years ago supporting the Azovs could cost you your clearance.... now they are heroes and 12 months after the end of the war they will be "literally Nazis" again.... I'll take the left seriously when the band leader is not insane. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:05 PM (Lzpvj) 305
298 "Give up your nukes" they said.
"We'll help defend you" they said. Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 20, 2022 11:04 PM (jTmQV ------- "Just the tip" they said. Posted by: 496 at October 20, 2022 11:05 PM (zu7dC) 306
I'll get my ass kicked by the Springsteen haters, but Nebraska is a great road trip album.
Posted by: 496 at October 20, 2022 10:58 PM (zu7dC) === *takes shirt off* Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2022 11:05 PM (EZebt) 307
You ever feel like you're *too* happy? I always had horrible problems til now.
Mostly of my own making, some beyond my control, but always... Problems. Now, I don't have any. I love my home, my job, and my beautiful, healthy family. I don't mean to complain, but I've never lived like this before. On the one hand, I'm filled with cold dread, waiting for that penny to drop. On the other, I'm feeling guilty because other people suffer while I prosper. I know this can't last, and I'm just trying to enjoy it while it does. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:05 PM (oINRc) Posted by: Woodsy at October 20, 2022 11:06 PM (7bRMQ) 309
If the people of Donbas want to leave Ukraine, and it seems they do, they have the same right that we acted on in 1776.
And recall that the Constitutional carve out for slaver was a result of the deal we made with the Democrats to keep them on board with the revolution, in order to get the support we needed from France. Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 11:06 PM (kOpft) Posted by: Count de Monet at October 20, 2022 11:06 PM (4I/2K) 311
302 With Clinton it was part of debt forgiveness for the Ukraine, Ukraine turned over to Russia all nuclear weapons, cruise missiles, and almost all Tu-22M3 Backfire and Tu-22 Blinder bombers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:04 PM (DTrmb) --------- Ah, another caper for State's "What Could Possibly Go Wrong" file. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 11:06 PM (Qzn2/) 312
298 "Give up your nukes" they said.
"We'll help defend you" they said. Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 20, 2022 11:04 PM (jTmQV That's not how I read it, especially with UKes saber rattling with Russia. NOw McCain ad Graham were and are bastards, but they had no business promising a war against Russia. Did Obama send them over to do this? I doubt it. Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:06 PM (Zzbjj) 313
The Ukes have made clear they are killing anyone with a Russian accent in Ukraine
Twelve years in prison for any Ukrainian who accepted food, or any other form of aid, from the Russians. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:06 PM (I2/tG) 314
Worst song? How about they're coming to take me away?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 11:07 PM (7bRMQ) 315
Driving through Arkansas yesterday, we drove into/through three different brush fires.
What the hell?! Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 11:07 PM (5laLd) 316
Crap (1950s?) song that was a retread in the ‘70s “Last Kiss” aka “where oh where can my baby be, the Good Lord took her away from me” then got a 3rd play thanks to Eddie Vedder around 2010.
Posted by: Rex B at October 20, 2022 11:07 PM (dZGU+) 317
""We'll help defend you" they said."
Those that said that should be over there in the trenches gunning down the ruski hordes. Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at October 20, 2022 11:07 PM (1DgE4) 318
Prank:
Wifmann worked with a young woman, Debby, who had once bought a Harley-Davidson franchise with her husband. Her husband made some new friends through the dealership and began spending more and more time with them. His new friends were part of the 1% element in the motorcycle world. No, not the Goldman-Sachs 1%ers. One three-day weekend he went out with his new buddies and did not come home until late Sunday evening. Upon his arrival at home he passed out face first on the livingroom floor. Debby considered her options. She stripped him naked, shaved all the hair from every inch of his being from top to bottom and all areas in between, re-dressed him, and went to bed. When she got up the next morning hubby was still on the LR floor snoring away. Eventually hubby got up and made his way into the bathroom. A few minutes later hubby came out of the bathroom with a stunned expression on his face. Debby let him believe that he had arrived home in his hairless state. Hubby never went out with his new friends again. Posted by: waepnedmann at October 20, 2022 11:07 PM (1H0d5) 319
I don't mean to complain, but I've never lived like this before. On the one hand, I'm filled with cold dread, waiting for that penny to drop. On the other, I'm feeling guilty because other people suffer while I prosper. I know this can't last, and I'm just trying to enjoy it while it does.
I've gone through cycles like this myself. And that penny WILL drop. But...that's the ups and downs of life. Prepare as well as you can for the future and then...try to be calm about it. And just in the trying to be calm you likely will find some peace. Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:07 PM (ESjRY) 320
We were all giggling. The bell rang, he closed the book in disgust and then realized it was a different book.
😆 Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 11:08 PM (fivxw) 321
307 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:05 PM (oINRc)
I felt that way on my current job for the first two years... I was so happy it hurt and scared me, "happily" the events of the last two and a half years fixed that. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:08 PM (Lzpvj) 322
The Soviets didn't finally put down the Ukrainian resistance from World War II until I think 1955.
Grudges are not just a Balkan thing. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:08 PM (DTrmb) 323
and 12 months after the end of the war they will be "literally Nazis" again.... I'll take the left seriously when the band leader is not insane. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:05 PM (Lzpvj) Yes. Supporting the Azovs and Bandera crowd because they have the Zdogg running cover is monumentally stupid. Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:08 PM (Zzbjj) 324
Which is sad in some sense; seems like I may be decended from some of those blood-thirsty "peaceful" natives, so knowing a little more about them would've been...interesting.
I've always thought that the burning of the Library of Alexandria was one of history's greatest tragedies. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:32 PM (eOEVl) Which time? The library was burned several times, and even those who want to blame Christians for it can't settle on a single trigger. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:08 PM (NkGvj) 325
Those that said that should be over there in the trenches gunning down the ruski hordes.
Does banging Ukrainian tweens count? Posted by: Slick Willie at October 20, 2022 11:09 PM (ESjRY) Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2022 11:09 PM (anj39) 327
I like the expression 'covid neurotics', Need to start using that.
Posted by: Ripley at October 20, 2022 11:02 PM (PTDkx) If an Islamaphobe is someone with an irrational fear of Islam... would Covidaphobe be someone who wears their mask when alone in the car? Posted by: Romeo13 at October 20, 2022 11:09 PM (oHd/0) 328
314 Worst song? How about they're coming to take me away?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 11:07 PM (7bRMQ) ------------ *bzzzzzzzzzzzt* So sorry. Novelty songs are ineligible. You've lost control of the board. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 11:09 PM (Qzn2/) 329
I've yet to find anyone who can tell me what our strategic interest in Ukraine is.
A bunch of congressmen, the current White House occupier, probably a good swath of the intelligence community, and several government contractors all get a cut of Ukrainian "aid" packages. That's pretty much it. Oh, also, the left has never forgiven Russia for abandoning communism, or Putin for stopping the flow of Russian orphans to US gay couples in need of sex toys. Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 11:09 PM (kOpft) 330
JFK was the first president we had who was in it strictly for the pussy. He was also half out of his goard on drugs his entire time in office. So stoned he still doesn't know he's dead. Fuck JFK.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 11:09 PM (Gda1b) 331
329. Pretty much
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:10 PM (Zzbjj) 332
(looking at calendar and looking at To Do List)
Trying to figure out my TxMoMe schedule. Worth going out Friday AND Saturday or just Saturday. Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 20, 2022 11:10 PM (3hSHB) 333
258 What moral obligation?
Because DC used them to launder money and bio-weapons? Posted by: Anna Puma Nah, there is unfortunately more to it. Russia has been shitting on the world forever. The moral obligation is to the people of Ukraine (and Georgia) (and Taiwan) (and ???) that we will defend the Westphalian order. The US defined the post war era by defending that idea, and I don't think we want to lose it. There is also the strategic interest in keeping Russia from dominating Europe, but in a way they already shot off that foot with the invasion. As for the vote - vlad would never approve, and don't be so sure about the outcome. He wants the land bridge to Crimea and certainly that population would never vote for him. Also, vlad has been ethnically cleansing so who is left to vote? It is too late for a vote. Look at Chechnya - do you really think their public loves Russia? The russian way is not far off from Genghis Khan or terror, murder, and suppression. Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 20, 2022 11:10 PM (WCzQY) Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:10 PM (DTrmb) 335
I've gone through cycles like this myself. And that penny WILL drop. But...that's the ups and downs of life. Prepare as well as you can for the future and then...try to be calm about it. And just in the trying to be calm you likely will find some peace.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:07 PM (ESjRY) Yeah, that sounds pretty smart. Thanks. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:10 PM (oINRc) Posted by: Young Nancy Pelosi! at October 20, 2022 11:10 PM (I2/tG) 337
Thank you, Sven. Glad to be here, and glad to know many of the people I truly respected are here.
Also stunned at how many I thought were just so incredibly thoughtful turned out to be…well never mind. We will keep positive vibes (see? I didn’t change!) Back to the topic at hand- bad songs- Macarena! Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 11:11 PM (0GTCG) 338
330 Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 11:09 PM (Gda1b)
Eh listen son, you may not have noticed it but according to those "Geo Washington Slept Here" signs I am LITERALLY the father of the country. //George Washington-American Badass Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:11 PM (Lzpvj) 339
Oh, also, the left has never forgiven Russia for abandoning communism, or Putin for stopping the flow of Russian orphans to US gay couples in need of sex toys.
Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 11:09 PM (kOpft) That, right there, says a lot. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 11:11 PM (IpSZQ) 340
Debby let him believe that he had arrived home in his hairless state.
Hubby never went out with his new friends again. Problem solving at its finest. Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 11:12 PM (fivxw) Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:12 PM (DTrmb) 342
Zelensky has banned opposing political parties and media that is critical of him and thrown his political rivals in prison. But we need to support Ukraine to preserve the "liberal order of the western world".
As Barry would say, they are running the okie doke on us. Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:12 PM (ZLI7S) Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:12 PM (DTrmb) 344
Debby let him believe that he had arrived home in his hairless state.
Hubby never went out with his new friends again. Posted by: waepnedmann at October 20, 2022 11:07 PM (1H0d5) ---------- Any practical joke that requires so much shaving isn't worth it. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 11:13 PM (Qzn2/) 345
Afternoon Delight makes me cringe every time I stumble onto it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 11:14 PM (Qzn2/) 346
325 Those that said that should be over there in the trenches gunning down the ruski hordes.
Does banging Ukrainian tweens count? Posted by: Slick Willie at October 20, 2022 11:09 PM (ESjRY) Titanic joke with Ex-Presidents and ship sinking... Ford: "Eh? What's going on?" Carter: "Woman and Children first!" Nixon: "Screw the women and children!" Clinton: "Do we have time?" Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:14 PM (ynpvh) 347
333. Germany dominates Europe. And we have no business defensing Europe against their business partners.
Our media doesn't show it, but Europe probably hates Ukraine more than I do at this moment. Demonstrations all over the place. Our left is amazingly pro-war, Europe right and left not so much, but Kolo and Zdogg probably have shit on their current crop of parasitic leaders too Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:14 PM (Zzbjj) 348
Look at Chechnya - do you really think their public loves Russia? The russian way is not far off from Genghis Khan or terror, murder, and suppression.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 20, 2022 11:10 PM (WCzQY) Funny, ain't it, how so many of the anti-Russian diatribes break down into racist rants about the "Mongol Hordes"? There is a fucktard on Small Dead Animals playing the same skin flute, all the time. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 11:14 PM (IpSZQ) Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:14 PM (aYpFd) 350
333 Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 20, 2022 11:10 PM (WCzQY)
BWAHAHAHA we are not defending the Westphalian nation state we are dismantling it. My God I had LITERALLY this conversation with a staff officer last year. The United States government hates its nation-nations living up to Westphal do not attempt to alter the makeup of their nation voicing globalist hopium platitudes at the top of their lungs. If my son, wife or I am destined to die "defending the sacred borders of the Ukraine" can the United States please have borders too before we go? Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:15 PM (Lzpvj) 351
JFK was the first president we had who was in it strictly for the pussy. He was also half out of his goard on drugs his entire time in office. So stoned he still doesn't know he's dead. Fuck JFK.
Posted by: Sharkman And billy jeff surpassed his idol, the student becoming the Master. Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 11:15 PM (lJmmt) 352
Honey Honey
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2022 11:15 PM (PWvcU) 353
Best/worst prank gone wrong: When working at a cement plant, we tricked the dick of the repair gang into running into a tracked machinery shed. (At cement plants, everything, and I mean everything is covered in gray dust.) In front of the entry way into the shed, we had one of the machine operators dig about an eight foot hole which we then filled up with cement. So epic preparation went into the ruse - we took of our boots and made 'footprints' onto the surface of the filled in hole, threw a couple of cigarette butts there - stuff like that.
Anyway, we sprung the trap and he started to run across the hole but, of course, immediately sunk into it and just disappeared. It took us a few secs to come to our senses and we scrambled to dig him out fast before he suffocated. It was a close run thing - he barfed and snotted out mud for an hour or so. Ultimately no worse for the wear but wow, that was really dumb. Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 11:15 PM (5laLd) 354
"Give up your nukes" they said.
"We'll help defend you" they said. Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 20, 2022 11:04 PM (jTmQV That's not how I read it, especially with UKes saber rattling with Russia. NOw McCain ad Graham were and are bastards, but they had no business promising a war against Russia. Did Obama send them over to do this? I doubt it. Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:06 PM (Zzbjj) Don't forget we toppled the government in Ukraine that Russia made that promise to and installed a hostile one. When Ukraine got a cease fire in the last war versus the Donbas states there was a peace settlement, agreed by the UN, and guaranteed by France and Germany to discuss the future of the Donbas states as part of Ukraine. Ukraine never allowed those talks and the west did nothing but approve it. Then they moved their troops into areas forbidden by the Minsk Accords and started shelling towns. The West did nothing. Then we started building Ukraine's army and the Nazi Azov SS troops. This isn't going to seem like a joke to anyone in Russia. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:15 PM (NkGvj) 355
337 Thank you, Sven. Glad to be here, and glad to know many of the people I truly respected are here.
Also stunned at how many I thought were just so incredibly thoughtful turned out to be…well never mind. We will keep positive vibes (see? I didn’t change!) Back to the topic at hand- bad songs- Macarena! Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 11:11 PM (0GTCG) That was on the list. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:15 PM (ynpvh) 356
One of the final deciding factors for Emperor Hirohito to order the surrender was the meeting of the cabinet of the 14th of August when General Hata, who had survived the Hiroshima bombing, said he could not defend Kyushu from invasion.
Posted by: Anna Puma I always read Paul Fussell's excellent 1981 column "Thank God for the Atom Bomb" on Hiroshima Day each year. He would have died in the invasion of Japan after fighting in NW Europe for 8 months. Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 11:15 PM (Gda1b) 357
316 @rex
The death ballads from the 50s! Tell Laura I Love Her, Ebony Eyes…missing Tommy (or something like that). A whole genre of tragic teen deaths. Deadman’s Curve! Can’t forget that one! Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 11:15 PM (0GTCG) 358
The best practical joke I ever heard about was pulled by John Huston. He was in Ireland working on the script for "Moby Dick" with his screenwriter, the great sci-fi author Ray Bradbury. He arranged for Bradbury to be sent a telegraph, purported from the studio, demanding that he rewrite the script to include a girl in the Pequod's crew. I can just imagine Bradbury's reaction when that telegram was handed to him!
Posted by: Nemo at October 20, 2022 11:16 PM (S6ArX) 359
343 eerrr
Animaniacs Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:12 PM (DTrmb) Helllooooo Nurse! (obligatory) Posted by: Romeo13 at October 20, 2022 11:16 PM (oHd/0) 360
He wants the land bridge to Crimea and certainly that population would never vote for him.
100% Russian-speaking population. Ukraine has now banned Russian language instruction in schools (even in areas that are 100% Russian speaking), has banned all political parties representing Russian-speaking Ukrainians, and Ukrainian law now criminalizes with multi-year prison terms anyone who cooperated with the Russians, even anyone who took bread from the Russians. I think an internationally-supervised plebiscite conducted in accordance with international law would result in a vote to join Russia. Worth trying as a way of settling this conflict. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:16 PM (I2/tG) 361
World orders, moral obligations. The good guys think I'll own nothing and be happy. While eating bugs. Count me out.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2022 11:17 PM (KFhLj) 362
Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:12 PM (ZLI7S) We're pretending it's noble and we're there to protect crooked pols and oligarch money, not Western values. Ukraine has few to none of those, and is utterly corrupt. WE're there to keep the world safe for grifting political people and billionaires Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:17 PM (Zzbjj) 363
Then they moved their troops into areas forbidden by the Minsk Accords and started shelling towns. The West did nothing. Then we started building Ukraine's army and the Nazi Azov SS troops. This isn't going to seem like a joke to anyone in Russia.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:15 PM (NkGvj) Yeah, NATO troops directly on the Russian border would be like having a Chinese Division in Mexico... no way we'd stand for it. Posted by: Romeo13 at October 20, 2022 11:18 PM (oHd/0) 364
@Jm, don't want to take it too seriously, but the narrator of Wildfire is starving to death in a cabin in the winter and the woman is already dead.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:18 PM (7B5FA) 365
I think an internationally-supervised plebiscite conducted in accordance with international law would result in a vote to join Russia.
Worth trying as a way of settling this conflict. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:16 PM (I2/tG) Which is exactly what Musk proposed a couple weeks ago, and was told by the Ukes, to F off.... literally. Posted by: Romeo13 at October 20, 2022 11:19 PM (oHd/0) 366
356 I always read Paul Fussell's excellent 1981 column "Thank God for the Atom Bomb" on Hiroshima Day each year. He would have died in the invasion of Japan after fighting in NW Europe for 8 months.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 11:15 PM (Gda1b) My Dad felt he would not have made it back without the bombs. He was in a troop transport on his way to Japan, and when he got there, the war was over. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:19 PM (ynpvh) 367
Funny, ain't it, how so many of the anti-Russian diatribes break down into racist rants about the "Mongol Hordes"?
Near the beginning of the war, a German academic wrote a tweet talking about the "Asiatic Slavs" and how barbaric they were. Eighty years on, and still precisely the same rhetoric. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (I2/tG) 368
If you feel that that ukraine needs to be defended from vlad the invader, there is nothing stopping you from heading east and joining the azovs, the aidars, and other assorted banderites.
I do believe now that you need to have completed , at least, basic infantry training. Have at it. Please report back on your experiences. Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (1DgE4) 369
Look at Chechnya - do you really think their public loves Russia? The russian way is not far off from Genghis Khan or terror, murder, and suppression.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 20, 2022 11:10 PM (WCzQY) Actually, much of the infantry fighting in the war so far has been done by Chechens volunteers, and their quota was easily filled for the new enlistments that the Russians put in a few months ago. I'm not expert on why but they are doing far more than their part to help Russia in this war Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (NkGvj) 370
357 316 @rex
The death ballads from the 50s! Tell Laura I Love Her, Ebony Eyes…missing Tommy (or something like that). A whole genre of tragic teen deaths. Deadman’s Curve! Can’t forget that one! Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 11:15 PM (0GTCG) I must be a terrible person...when the part of "Leader of the Pack" gets to the accident, I start laughing for some reason... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (ynpvh) 371
In the cold calculus of war, the hundred or so thousand who died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki versus the estimated One Million Allied dead, wounded, or missing makes using the atomic weapons a no brainer.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (DTrmb) 372
>>Yeah, NATO troops directly on the Russian border would be like having a Chinese Division in Mexico... no way we'd stand for it.
You don't even need a hypothetical. We didn't stand for it for years when Russia was funding communist groups throughout Latin America and of course with the Cuban missile crisis. NATO should have been abolished when the wall came down. Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (ZLI7S) 373
Then they moved their troops into areas forbidden by the Minsk Accords and started shelling towns. The West did nothing. Then we started building Ukraine's army and the Nazi Azov SS troops. This isn't going to seem like a joke to anyone in Russia.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:15 PM (NkGvj) It's not a joke to me, and it makes me sick to see Zelensky at the head of this, just as it disgusts me to see Garland and Walensky behaving like totalitarian thugs. Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (Zzbjj) 374
364 @Jm, don't want to take it too seriously, but the narrator of Wildfire is starving to death in a cabin in the winter and the woman is already dead.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:18 PM (7B5FA) Cannibal Bob wrote Wildfire? Who woulda thunk it! Posted by: Romeo13 at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (oHd/0) 375
@ARC, that's obviously how it winds up, probably many years from now. Russia could buy Donbas like we did the Gadsden Purchase as a fig leaf for everyone involved.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (7B5FA) 376
364 @Jm, don't want to take it too seriously, but the narrator of Wildfire is starving to death in a cabin in the winter and the woman is already dead.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:18 PM (7B5FA) Eat the owl. What do you have to lose? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:21 PM (ynpvh) 377
NATO should have been abolished when the wall came down.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (ZLI7S) Glad you said this before I did. I think Durham is useless, but I'm with you on this. Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:21 PM (Zzbjj) 378
From the list, I admit that I like the "Bread and Butter" song. I always figured it was a black woman singing it though, not a white guy.
Posted by: 496 at October 20, 2022 11:21 PM (zu7dC) 379
Night all
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 11:22 PM (Zzbjj) 380
Oh Mickey you're so fine
You're so fine you blow my mind Hey Mickey! Posted by: Count de Monet Toni Basil still looks pretty damn good for being in her 70's. Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 11:22 PM (5laLd) 381
>>Glad you said this before I did. I think Durham is useless, but I'm with you on this.
You might want to give events a little more time. Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:22 PM (ZLI7S) 382
226 223. yep, that sucked. but One Tin Soldier sucked too
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 10:53 PM (Zzbjj) Billy don't be a hero. Posted by: Tom Servo at Oct False!! These are good songs. Rubber ducky and The Streak are bad songs Posted by: LASue at October 20, 2022 11:23 PM (Ed8Zd) 383
Which is exactly what Musk proposed a couple weeks ago, and was told by the Ukes, to F off.... literally.
The Ukes briefly put Musk on the unofficial kill list of foreigners that they have been maintaining (people on the kill list that die are marked "liquidated"), but they then thought better of it. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:23 PM (I2/tG) 384
When I was schlepping drinks in a Ventura Blvd restaurant there was this fussy hispanic waiter that I couldn't stand. One night near his birthday I got a urinal cake from the supply room and had the pastry chef decorate it with icing and a candle. It was a damn work of art.
Then at the end of the shift I got all the other staff and we brought the cake to him, candle blazing, and we sang a sweet rendition of Happy Birthday. He was so touched. We set the cake down in front of him and he licked frosting off his fingers. When he tried to cut into it, the thing was like a rock. Everyone enjoyed the little prank except him. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 11:23 PM (Qzn2/) Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 11:23 PM (lJmmt) 386
JFK was the first president we had who was in it strictly for the pussy. Are you sure about that? History didn't begin in 1960. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 11:23 PM (63Dwl) 387
I think an internationally-supervised plebiscite conducted in accordance with international law would result in a vote to join Russia.
Worth trying as a way of settling this conflict. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:16 PM (I2/tG) Which is exactly what Musk proposed a couple weeks ago, and was told by the Ukes, to F off.... literally. Posted by: Romeo13 at October 20, 2022 11:19 PM (oHd/0) They also put him on an assassination list that somehow remains up on the interwebs, at least for a little while. Oh yes, they have a hit list. They just put the president of Azerbaijan on it for some reason. So far the only one they've assassinated is the daughter of some college professor, like heros. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:23 PM (NkGvj) 388
We should have just shuttered our bases in Europe after the wall fell. Sink or swim.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2022 11:24 PM (PWvcU) 389
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 11:23 PM (Qzn2/)
-------- He didn't enjoy being #1? (sorry, that was crude) Posted by: 496 at October 20, 2022 11:24 PM (zu7dC) 390
Oh Mickey you're so fine
You're so fine you blow my mind Hey Mickey! Posted by: Count de Monet That song is actually about me Posted by: Miklos, mere Magyar Moron at October 20, 2022 11:24 PM (FsKtn) 391
370 357 316 @rex
The death ballads from the 50s! Tell Laura I Love Her, Ebony Eyes…missing Tommy (or something like that). A whole genre of tragic teen deaths. Deadman’s Curve! Can’t forget that one! @ Piper and Jim, Death Ballads from the ‘50s. I’m going to look more into that. Last week the 1980s songs of armageddon were being tossed around. Posted by: Rex B at October 20, 2022 11:24 PM (eOjAZ) 392
We had joy we had fun we had seasons in the sun.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 11:25 PM (63Dwl) 393
386
JFK was the first president we had who was in it strictly for the pussy. Are you sure about that? History didn't begin in 1960. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 11:23 PM (63Dwl) Yeah, Harding like the ladies too. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:25 PM (ynpvh) 394
False!! These are good songs. Rubber ducky and The Streak are bad songs
Posted by: LASue As noted above. Novelty songs are exempt.... Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 11:25 PM (lJmmt) 395
"Future's so bright, gotta wear shades."
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:25 PM (DTrmb) 396
Look out Ethel!
Posted by: 496 at October 20, 2022 11:25 PM (zu7dC) 397
That song is actually about me
Posted by: Miklos, mere Magyar Moron at October 20, 2022 11:24 PM (FsKtn) --------- Get bent, bohunk. Posted by: Mickey Mouse at October 20, 2022 11:25 PM (Qzn2/) 398
@Sharkman, exactly right. My dad told the story about after V-E Day, a lot of the officers and NCOs got orders to go to the US for 30 days leave and then report to go to the Pacific. He said his lieutenant, LT Armour (of the hot dog family) sat and cried, saying that he had already won one war and now they were sending him to die in another. My dad, a PFC, said he felt sorry for him, but he was sure glad it wasn't him.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:26 PM (7B5FA) 399
I mean "Don't Look Ethel!"
Posted by: 496 at October 20, 2022 11:26 PM (zu7dC) 400
@ARC, that's obviously how it winds up, probably many years from now. Russia could buy Donbas like we did the Gadsden Purchase as a fig leaf for everyone involved.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (7B5FA) Too late for that. The Russians used the same model we used in the Balkans to detach the lands and incorporate them. They won't give anything back short of being conquered which isn't happening Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:26 PM (NkGvj) 401
the cold calculus of war, the hundred or so thousand who died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki versus the estimated One Million Allied dead, wounded, or missing makes using the atomic weapons a no brainer.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (DTrmb) We could have taken Japan by air at that point. There would have been no need for "boots on the ground." Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:26 PM (aYpFd) 402
If you hate Bobby Goldsboro's "Honey" (and who doesn't?) listen to the Austin Lounge Lizards' lewd parody, "She's Shorty's Gal". Seriously, you'll be glad you did.
Posted by: Dr. Weevil at October 20, 2022 11:27 PM (dSnq/) 403
I'm not expert on why but they are doing far more than their part to help Russia in this war
Chechnya is run with an iron fist by Ramzan Kadyrov. The Russians basically have set up a local Chechen dictatorship - the key is that Russia does not run Chechnya - Kadyrov does. The Russians also spent billions rebuilding Grozny as part of the deal. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:27 PM (I2/tG) 404
401 the cold calculus of war, the hundred or so thousand who died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki versus the estimated One Million Allied dead, wounded, or missing makes using the atomic weapons a no brainer.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:20 PM (DTrmb) We could have taken Japan by air at that point. There would have been no need for "boots on the ground." Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:26 PM (aYpFd) We didn't have any more complete A-bombs yet, IIRC. And the Japs knew how to dig in, if Okinawa didn't teach us that. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:27 PM (ynpvh) Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 11:28 PM (5laLd) 406
I always thought that in the Iraq detention facilities they should play a rotating loop of "Seasons in the Sun." That would break even the most hardened terrorist.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:28 PM (7B5FA) 407
405 Get bent, bohunk.
Posted by: Mickey Mouse That escalated quickly. (Isn't bohunk a great word?) Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 11:28 PM (5laLd) Better than what Al Sharpton would say. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:28 PM (ynpvh) 408
310 Oh Mickey you're so fine
You're so fine you blow my mind Hey Mickey! Posted by: Count de Monet at October 20, 2022 11:06 PM (4I/2K) ---------- The cheerleader outfit she wore in that video, at age 38, was her own from HS. Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 20, 2022 11:28 PM (RG7Wy) 409
406 I always thought that in the Iraq detention facilities they should play a rotating loop of "Seasons in the Sun." That would break even the most hardened terrorist.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:28 PM (7B5FA) Eh, Macarena. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:28 PM (ynpvh) 410
Jo Dee Messina?
"My give a damn's busted." Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:10 PM (DTrmb) Drove across the country with Daughter of Diogenes #1 listening to Messina. It was fun. Good memories. Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2022 11:29 PM (anj39) 411
Then why drop the atomic bombs?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2022 11:29 PM (PWvcU) 412
Everything that nazi twat Bach wrote was pure garbage.
Posted by: Ludwig at October 20, 2022 11:29 PM (RG7Wy) 413
Holy crap... I got a fashion mag in the mail addressed to the previous homeowner. It's called "W." Almost all the spreads have a dude in a dress somewhere in them. Adam's apple and all. The only girl-only spreads I saw are of a shaven-headed chick in a formless heap of chiffon that totally hides her figure.
Why bother with this? Why not just show a beautiful woman in a fireman's coat and helmet? You could call it "Fags Dressing Lesbos." Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:30 PM (oINRc) 414
Sharkman, exactly right. My dad told the story about after V-E Day, a lot of the officers and NCOs got orders to go to the US for 30 days leave and then report to go to the Pacific. He said his lieutenant, LT Armour (of the hot dog family) sat and cried, saying that he had already won one war and now they were sending him to die in another. My dad, a PFC, said he felt sorry for him, but he was sure glad it wasn't him.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:26 PM (7B5FA) The Japanese certainly had plans to kill lots of US troops, but we had also gotten cleaning them out down to a science and supplies and food were short. But even in this best case that would mean a generation that had to exterminate civilians for months to years before they gave up. Probably not the 90 percent that was needed on the outer islands, but the damage would have to have been severe to anyone going through that. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:30 PM (NkGvj) 415
He said his lieutenant, LT Armour (of the hot dog family) sat and cried, saying that he had already won one war and now they were sending him to die in another.
I talked to a WWII vet who was on a minesweeper during the invasion of Okinawa - his minesweeper was ordered inshore to draw Japanese fire and reveal where their guns were. Fortunately for him, the Japanese didn't take the bait. He didn't think that he'd survive the invasion of Japan. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:30 PM (I2/tG) 416
@Dr. Weevil, my favorite ALL song is "We've Been Through Some Crappy Times Before."
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:30 PM (7B5FA) 417
411 Then why drop the atomic bombs?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2022 11:29 PM (PWvcU) To give the impression that we could level the entire country by air without being touched. Sun Tzu stuff. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:30 PM (ynpvh) Posted by: Puddleglum in Pennsyltucky at October 20, 2022 11:30 PM (LUyqH) 419
Just for the record, 'I Write the Songs'? I didn't write that. Posted by: Barry Manilow at October 20, 2022 11:30 PM (gMoVp) 420
412 Everything that nazi twat Bach wrote was pure garbage.
Posted by: Ludwig at October 20, 2022 11:29 PM (RG7Wy) Bach was transgender? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:30 PM (ynpvh) 421
Why bother with this? Why not just show a beautiful woman in a fireman's coat and helmet? You could call it "Fags Dressing Lesbos."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:30 PM (oINRc) The Trans-male women are proving a point to the Feminist women and normal women. They are in charge now. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:31 PM (NkGvj) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 11:31 PM (63Dwl) 423
You are my candy girl. And I can't stop lovin' you.
Posted by: Strokin' Uncle Joe Biden at October 20, 2022 11:31 PM (Xrfse) 424
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:28 PM (7B5FA
My mom hates that song, too. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:31 PM (oINRc) 425
Embrace the power of government to save the cou try? Hell yeah. I'ma get me on some EBT, permanent disability and early Socialist Insecurity. Why didn't I think of this before. Maybe I'll join the military long enough to rate a spot at the CIA and become an Inner Party Member.
I want all the gibzmedats! Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 20, 2022 11:32 PM (3sfj0) 426
We could have bombed the Japs into submission with conventional means.
Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:32 PM (aYpFd) 427
383 Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:23 PM (I2/tG)
Trademark "the good guys!" Remember kids Musk has been gifting them 20 million bucks worth of secure information warfare space a month.... Z-man loves us promise. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:32 PM (Lzpvj) 428
Funny, ain't it, how so many of the anti-Russian diatribes break down into racist rants about the "Mongol Hordes"?
Yes, but remember, it's okay to be racist against Russians, since they're Caucasian. Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 11:32 PM (kOpft) 429
The Japanese certainly had plans to kill lots of US troops, but we had also gotten cleaning them out down to a science
Actually, the closer we got to Japan, the more even US and Japanese casualties got (see Iwo Jima). The Japanese were improving their defensive techniques faster than we were improving our offensive techniques - giving up on Banzai charges, for example. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:32 PM (I2/tG) 430
426 We could have bombed the Japs into submission with conventional means.
Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:32 PM (aYpFd) Always a risk to the planes, and the Japs knew how to dig in. They had plans, like the did in some of the islands we took at great cost. At some point, after bombardment, you still have to send men in to clean up. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:33 PM (ynpvh) 431
We could have taken Japan by air at that point. There would have been no need for "boots on the ground."
Posted by: JCT Sure. I guess we could have starved all 100 million of them to death without invading. The goal was to end the war. Not make it last forever by just bombing. Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 11:33 PM (Gda1b) 432
The cheerleader outfit she wore in that video, at age 38, was her own from HS. Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 20, 2022 11:28 PM (RG7Wy)
Fun fact: she acted. She had a fairly big supporting role in "Five Easy Pieces." Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:33 PM (7B5FA) 433
When I first began following this site I was struck by the number of ex LGF posters who wound up here.
There were some fine afternoons and evenings at LGF before he went back to his liberal roots, gotta say. I wonder what ever happened with TFK (tax free killer), had some good talks with him. Not too long ago, I revisited lgf out of curiosity. Didn't hang around, what a disconnected, idiot jumble it is now. Posted by: irongrampa at October 20, 2022 11:33 PM (KATBx) 434
JCT
Kyushu was where the US would have landed held 990,000 soldiers plus about 26 million civilian conscripts with nothing but worn out rifles, spears, and swords. To say nothing of the suicide boats* and kamikazes. August 14th. After two atomic bombings, continued US fire bombing raids, and the Soviet invasion of Manchuria; many in the Imperial Japanese Army wanted to keep fighting. They even staged an attempted coup to prevent the Emperor's radio broadcast accepting the surrender. There would have been multiple invasions. I say invasions because the Soviets would have tried to take Hokkaido followed by the two American invasions. And the planning for the US invasions included using atomic weapons to isolate Kyushu. *Ironically the suicide boats that were moored on the river going through Hiroshima would be used after the bombing to collect bodies floating in the river. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:33 PM (DTrmb) 435
Then why drop the atomic bombs?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2022 11:29 PM (PWvcU) The firebombings of pretty much every Japanese city was the new normal, but the Emperor / Peace Party still was unable/unwilling to risk having the Emperor break the rule of noninterference in politics. The two bombs strengthened his side/weakened the government that he did intervene and most all of the military went along. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:34 PM (NkGvj) 436
We could have taken Japan by air at that point.
We did. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. During a 'discussion' years ago with a empty-headed fool, the raving lunatic demanded to know why we (the US) didn't, in essence, fire a warning shot against the Japanese. I told her - "That's what Hiroshima was." Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 11:34 PM (5laLd) 437
Jim- wanted JCT to answer. I agree with the a-bombs.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2022 11:34 PM (PWvcU) 438
Yes, but remember, it's okay to be racist against Russians, since they're Caucasian.
You just have to remember to distinguish between the kindly, good European Slavs (Ukrainians), and the evil, Satanic Asiatic Slavs (Russians). Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:34 PM (I2/tG) 439
Tibbets was flying a third atomic bomb out to the Pacific when the war ended.
Posted by: Rex B at October 20, 2022 11:35 PM (issyS) 440
songs that need to be erased from the memory of man for all time
so many... Angie- Rolling Stones Whats Goin On- 4 Non Blondes anything by Rush Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 11:35 PM (geLO8) 441
433 When I first began following this site I was struck by the number of ex LGF posters who wound up here.
There were some fine afternoons and evenings at LGF before he went back to his liberal roots, gotta say. I wonder what ever happened with TFK (tax free killer), had some good talks with him. Not too long ago, I revisited lgf out of curiosity. Didn't hang around, what a disconnected, idiot jumble it is now. Posted by: irongrampa at October 20, 2022 11:33 PM (KATBx) I was there. Got into an argument with Little Green fuzzballs himself at one point, but wasn't banned for it. Left of my own volition. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:35 PM (ynpvh) 442
I think an internationally-supervised plebiscite conducted in accordance with international law would result in a vote to join Russia.
Worth trying as a way of settling this conflict. You could tell everyone in fact does know how that would go from the reaction Musk got when he suggested it. Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2022 11:35 PM (kOpft) 443
Truman was rolled into dropping the bombs. FDR wouldn't have done it.
Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:35 PM (aYpFd) 444
JFK was the first president we had who was in it strictly for the pussy.
Are you sure about that? History didn't begin in 1960. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 11:23 PM (63Dwl) (...Waiting for someone to quip on what Buchanan was in it for) Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 20, 2022 11:35 PM (vuisn) 445
439 Tibbets was flying a third atomic bomb out to the Pacific when the war ended.
Posted by: Rex B at October 20, 2022 11:35 PM (issyS) -------- I thought that with Little Boy we had already exhausted our entire inventory. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (Qzn2/) 446
False!! These are good songs. Rubber ducky and The Streak are bad songs
Posted by: LASue As noted above. Novelty songs are exempt.... Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 11:25 PM (lJmmt) Ok. Then I nominate Timothy. But in fairness, it’s hard to write a good cannabalism tune. Posted by: LASue at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (Ed8Zd) 447
How suicidal were the Japanese civilians?
Banzai Cliff on Saipan is all I have to say. The country of Japan might have ceased to exist after the invasions. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (DTrmb) 448
Yeah, perhaps we could have fought a conventional war against the Nips to beat them. Or we could end them in two weeks.
Whatevs. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (oINRc) 449
Z-man loves us promise.
The left doesn't seem to care for him much. @JenniferJJacobs Scoop: Biden admin officials are discussing whether US should subject some of @elonmusk's ventures to national security reviews, including his deal for Twitter Inc., and the Starlink satellite network, sources tell @SalehaMohsin and me. @BloombergTV Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (ZLI7S) 450
At some point, after bombardment, you still have to send men in to clean up. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:33 PM (ynpvh)
T.R. Fehrenbach had something to say about that: "Americans in 1950 rediscovered something that since Hiroshima they had forgotten: you may fly over a land forever; you may bomb it, atomize it, pulverize it and wipe it clean of life—but if you desire to defend it, protect it, and keep it for civilization, you must do this on the ground, the way the Roman legions did, by putting your young men into the mud." As Insty says, read the whole thing. https://erenow.net/ww/this-kind-of-war/25.php Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (7B5FA) 451
There would have been multiple invasions. I say invasions because the Soviets would have tried to take Hokkaido followed by the two American invasions. And the planning for the US invasions included using atomic weapons to isolate Kyushu.
*Ironically the suicide boats that were moored on the river going through Hiroshima would be used after the bombing to collect bodies floating in the river. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:33 PM (DTrmb) Olympic was slated for Nov 1, 45 and the goal was to take at least enough of South Kyushu to allow moving the air forces there to support Coronet, which was slated for March 1 '46. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (NkGvj) 452
We could have bombed the Japs into submission with conventional means.
Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:32 PM (aYpFd) Would have taken much longer. More planes shot down, more airmen killed or made captive, and probably more Japanese civilians killed before the war party finally gave up. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (IpSZQ) 453
Neil Sedaka - Breaking Up Is Hard To Do
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 20, 2022 11:37 PM (z+OQR) 454
Road trip song; Take the Highway-The Marshall Tucker Band.
Posted by: Puddleglum ------ Seger, 'Turn the Page' https://tinyurl.com/2xnv36rc Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2022 11:37 PM (pPheI) 455
I used to have a pet theory that LGF got dumped by a conservative women.
What else could could explain the Infinite Butthurt? Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 20, 2022 11:37 PM (vuisn) 456
A zip tie around the driveshaft is always fun. They will spend an hour trying to find that clicking noise.
Posted by: fd at October 20, 2022 11:38 PM (+GOMn) 457
Why bother with this? Why not just show a beautiful woman in a fireman's coat and helmet? You could call it "Fags Dressing Lesbos."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:30 PM (oINRc) ------- I still remember from my childhood, playmate Victoria Cunningham in a fireman's outfit. Most perfect pictures ever. I'm sure google could help you relive my childhood. Talk about suspendered animation... Posted by: 496 at October 20, 2022 11:38 PM (zu7dC) 458
447 Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (DTrmb)
I don't think the communists would have killed themselves.... Japan would have been Eastern East Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Communist_Party Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:38 PM (Lzpvj) 459
I thought that with Little Boy we had already exhausted our entire inventory.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (Qzn2/) Fat Man was #2 that went to Nagasaki. There would have been a lull but after that we would be turning them out like clockwork. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:38 PM (NkGvj) Posted by: Puddleglum in Pennsyltucky at October 20, 2022 11:38 PM (LUyqH) Posted by: Zettai at October 20, 2022 11:38 PM (vycUs) 462
455 Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 20, 2022 11:37 PM (vuisn)
Close, he was rebuffed for hitting on Paglia.... *and* he simped out for the Donk underground loving moonbat mods he made. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:39 PM (Lzpvj) 463
I don't think the communists would have killed themselves....
You mean the few the Kempetai had not shot? Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:40 PM (DTrmb) 464
443 Truman was rolled into dropping the bombs. FDR wouldn't have done it.
Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:35 PM (aYpFd) I read somewhere that Truman was asked, if you decide not to drop the bombs, what will you say to the American people during your impeachment trial when it comes out you could've saved over one million US casualties? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:40 PM (ynpvh) 465
444 JFK was the first president we had who was in it strictly for the pussy.
Are you sure about that? History didn't begin in 1960. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 11:23 PM (63Dwl) (...Waiting for someone to quip on what Buchanan was in it for) Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 20, 2022 11:35 PM (vuisn) 4 years? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:40 PM (ynpvh) 466
We could have bombed the Japs into submission with conventional means.
Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:32 PM (aYpFd) Japan is not self sufficient in food. If this 'works' it would mean starving the population to death. But air power advocates have *always* been wrong about the strength of air power, and tankers usually wrong. Success comes on the back of the poor bloody infantry. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:41 PM (NkGvj) 467
463 Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:40 PM (DTrmb)
Heh there were more than a few, one of history's ironies was our protecting the communists in jail that survived the war who immediately went to work for Stalin. America is smart like that Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:42 PM (Lzpvj) 468
Reasonably certain that the number of civilians that died in the incendiary bombing of Tokyo was equivalent to Hiroshima.
"Almost 16 square miles in and around the Japanese capital were incinerated, and between 80,000 and 130,000 Japanese civilians were killed in the worst single firestorm in recorded history." Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2022 11:42 PM (ZlD3b) 469
Seger, 'Turn the Page'
https://tinyurl.com/2xnv36rc Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2022 11:37 PM (pPheI) Good one. Concur. Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2022 11:42 PM (anj39) Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 11:42 PM (0GTCG) 471
453 Neil Sedaka - Breaking Up Is Hard To Do
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 20, 2022 11:37 PM (z+OQR) First time I heard a Neil Sedaka song on the radio, I thought a chick was singing...I think it was "Laughter in the Rain" Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:43 PM (ynpvh) 472
Scoop: Biden admin officials are discussing whether US should subject some of @elonmusk's ventures to national security reviews, including his deal for Twitter Inc., and the Starlink satellite network, sources tell @SalehaMohsin and me. @BloombergTV
Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (ZLI7S) Starlink has helped their war effort a lot, but looks like making Twitter a free market in ideas is something they want to start. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:43 PM (NkGvj) 473
455 I used to have a pet theory that LGF got dumped by a conservative women.
What else could could explain the Infinite Butthurt? Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 20, 2022 11:37 PM (vuisn) Transgender surgery? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:43 PM (ynpvh) 474
468 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2022 11:42 PM (ZlD3b)
I have argued successfully that the firebombings of Dresden and Tokyo were at least as morally sanctionable as Hiroshima and Nagasaki in forensics. Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:43 PM (Lzpvj) 475
Reasonably certain that the number of civilians that died in the incendiary bombing of Tokyo was equivalent to Hiroshima.
"Almost 16 square miles in and around the Japanese capital were incinerated, and between 80,000 and 130,000 Japanese civilians were killed in the worst single firestorm in recorded history." Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2022 11:42 PM (ZlD3b) Oh lots more. They did it several times after all. And Nagasaki A Bomb was pretty low grade casualty wise. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:44 PM (NkGvj) 476
Not sure if anyone already posted it, but, some good if only temporary news:
@2Aupdates BREAKING: Hardaway v. Nigrelli (W.D. NY): Judge issues temporary restraining order against New York's ban on guns in places of worship, saying that "[t]he right to self-defense is no less important and no less recognized at these places." Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 20, 2022 11:45 PM (IyrhE) 477
Pretty sure FDR would have dropped the bombs; he was the one that gave the go-ahead to the Manhattan Project, after all.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 11:45 PM (IpSZQ) 478
I thought that with Little Boy we had already exhausted our entire inventory.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) Had read that Groves had ordered a third bomb to be delivered by C-54 several dats after Nagasaki. From a Tibbets interview I’m trying to source. Posted by: Rex B at October 20, 2022 11:45 PM (issyS) 479
What if you seriously don't give a fuck about fixing anything?
What if you just cauterize it and walk away? What if some country did that to another, even once? I think you might see an uptick in global politeness afterwards. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:45 PM (oINRc) 480
As I posted above, the third atomic bomb, another Fat Man, could have been used against Japan as early as the 19th of August.
The last aerial combat over Japan occurred when 14 Zekes and 3 Georges attacked two B-32 Dominators conducting post-strike photo reconnaissance. The last American to die in World War II was aboard one of these B-32s, Sgt Anthony Marchione. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:45 PM (DTrmb) 481
@sven - wasn’t there a moment with Pamela Gellar, too? Or did I dream that?
Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 11:45 PM (0GTCG) 482
Would have taken much longer. More planes shot down, more airmen killed or made captive, and probably more Japanese civilians killed before the war party finally gave up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (IpSZQ) Japan was already defeated at that time. Conventional bombing would have brought it to an end. And they didn't want any part of the Stalin. Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:46 PM (aYpFd) 483
Oh lots more. They did it several times after all. And Nagasaki A Bomb was pretty low grade casualty wise.
Posted by: Oldcat ------ Just making the point that the horrors of the Atomic bomb(s) were not significantly more so than 'conventional' bombing. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2022 11:47 PM (ZlD3b) 484
478 I thought that with Little Boy we had already exhausted our entire inventory.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) Had read that Groves had ordered a third bomb to be delivered by C-54 several dats after Nagasaki. From a Tibbets interview I’m trying to source. Posted by: Rex B at October 20, 2022 11:45 PM (issyS) I have a vague recollection of reading about that...had a bomb or most of one on one of the pacific islands... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:47 PM (ynpvh) 485
IIRC one of Tokyo's mayors told the Hiroshima one to shut up about how many died at Hiroshima as Tokyo lost far more in fire bombings.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:47 PM (DTrmb) 486
Truman was rolled into dropping the bombs. FDR wouldn't have done it.
Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:35 PM (aYpFd) FDR was practically another Biden by late 1944. Truman had to be forced onto the ticket because FDR's handlers and the VP were such commie sympathisers. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:47 PM (NkGvj) 487
472 Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:43 PM (NkGvj)
Well the Federal Government will not give up control easily and that is what is going on Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:47 PM (Lzpvj) 488
Fat Man was the plutonium implosion design, and Little Boy was the uranium gun bomb, right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 11:47 PM (IpSZQ) 489
all's well that ends well- the krauts and the japs haven't bothered anybody since 1945
total war works Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 11:48 PM (geLO8) 490
One aspect of the Cuban Missile Crisis no one ever talks about: WE had quietly installed nuclear-armed Jupiter C IRBMs in Turkey. Aimed at the USSR.
(That's "Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile" for you young'ins. IOW Nukes.) THAT is what pissed off the Russkis. So they engaged in tit-for-tat, and we went apeshit over it. In the end, the "deal" stuck was for both parties to take back their missiles and dismantle their launch facilities. You can look it up. Posted by: Noam Sayen at October 20, 2022 11:48 PM (/lMGb) 491
481 Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 11:45 PM (0GTCG)
He thought the right women were as loose as the leftover groupies from his youth I suspect....he also stepped on Malkin's feet I think.... point is Chunky going #MeToo on Trump was hilarious Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:49 PM (Lzpvj) 492
LOL I have friends in Japan right now, American tourists.
They are enjoying the rate of exchange. Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 20, 2022 11:49 PM (jTmQV) 493
488 Fat Man was the plutonium implosion design, and Little Boy was the uranium gun bomb, right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 11:47 PM (IpSZQ) Intertubes say yes. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:49 PM (ynpvh) 494
I think Chuckles never recovered from his bike dumping him for a Vespa.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:50 PM (DTrmb) 495
494 I think Chuckles never recovered from his bike dumping him for a Vespa.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:50 PM (DTrmb) He loved his bike? Well, the Vespa does have a rear exhaust... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:50 PM (ynpvh) 496
> I think Chuckles never recovered from his bike dumping him for a Vespa.
Posted by: Anna Puma he did like taking dramatic photos of his parked bike Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 11:51 PM (geLO8) 497
Howdy Hordelings! Tried to post some comments from the MoMe site but they got the Alderaan treatment. Back at the hotel now. Hope you are all having a good night!
Posted by: Doof at October 20, 2022 11:51 PM (bApRP) 498
You're less dead if killed by "conventional" weapons.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 11:51 PM (63Dwl) 499
Fussell's column I referenced discusses E.B. Sledge's excellent: "With The Old Breed at Peleliu and Okinawa" and the concept that most people have forgotten, that our troops' job in WW2 was: "To Close With The Enemy And Destroy Him".
And that one could anticipate another's post-war opinions about the morality of dropping the Bomb by knowing how far from the point of the spear the opinion-giver was during the war. "I don't require [Mr. X] to have risked having his ass shot off during the war. I only note that he didn't." E.B. Sledge and all his mates who survived Peleliu and Okinawa were slated to die, all of them, in the second wave hitting near Yokohama shipyard. Fussell would have died near Tokyo. The B-29 was a death-trap and we lost a lot of them bombing Japan. The Japanese held their remaining air crews and planes in reserve for the invasion. Had we only gone after them from the air, they likely would have decided to use those planes and pilots against the bombers, making the air war no longer feasible. Better to end the war quickly and make the Japanese understand they were truly defeated. Hell, they killed 20 million Chinese in 8 years. They needed the lesson. Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 11:51 PM (Gda1b) 500
Japan was already defeated at that time. Conventional bombing would have brought it to an end. And they didn't want any part of the Stalin.
Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:46 PM (aYpFd) As the North found out with the South in the ACW, a country can be defeated and defeated again and not give up until you break up all their armies and occupy pretty much every place in the land. A sensible CSA would have been making terms after Nov 64. Many thousands died from wounds, disease and the like for nothing. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:51 PM (NkGvj) 501
For what was predicted to be a "slow night", we're well on our way to meeting one half (1/2) of the ACEPLAN quota for the ONT on time and under budget! Posted by: Zettai at October 20, 2022 11:51 PM (tpP8D) 502
T.R. Fehrenbach had something to say about that:
"Americans in 1950 rediscovered something that since Hiroshima they had forgotten: you may fly over a land forever; you may bomb it, atomize it, pulverize it and wipe it clean of life—but if you desire to defend it, protect it, and keep it for civilization, you must do this on the ground, the way the Roman legions did, by putting your young men into the mud." *************** This is why if Putin thinks he can occupy Ukraine, or the Baltics, or the other former Iron Curtain countries, he's as crazy as a shit house rat. Posted by: Noam Sayen at October 20, 2022 11:52 PM (/lMGb) 503
497 Howdy Hordelings! Tried to post some comments from the MoMe site but they got the Alderaan treatment. Back at the hotel now. Hope you are all having a good night!
Posted by: Doof at October 20, 2022 11:51 PM (bApRP) Too bad I couldn't be there...work and 1400 miles... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:52 PM (ynpvh) 504
We are not really Conservatives.
We are based pragmatists, some with God behind them, others without god, but sound principles nevertheless. Posted by: NaCly Dog (CQ8KO) at October 20, 2022 11:52 PM (CQ8KO) Posted by: Zettai at October 20, 2022 11:52 PM (tpP8D) 506
The only person to kill more Chinese than Japan was Mao.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:52 PM (DTrmb) 507
498 You're less dead if killed by "conventional" weapons.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 11:51 PM (63Dwl) LOL. Friendly fire is the best. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (ynpvh) Posted by: NaCly Dog (CQ8KO) at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (CQ8KO) 509
Fat Man was the plutonium implosion design, and Little Boy was the uranium gun bomb, right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 11:47 PM (IpSZQ) Intertubes say yes. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:49 PM (ynpvh) I don't think it was the bomb's fault per se - most of the new bombs would have been plutonium. Nagasaki was an alternate target, the area was hilly so there were 'shadows' and I think it was a bit off line too. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (NkGvj) 510
I guess we have to destroy the village in order to save it. I'm not buying it. I'm not sure how to avoid it however, he's absolutely right, the Left won't stop until they are stopped. The part I'm not so sanguine about is that the cudgel of big government can be used to smash the left and then be relinquished. History tells me that that won't happen.
The left keep screaming about how the right wants to have a dictatorship and they're going to keep pushing until we do. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (Bd6X8) Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (WCzQY) 512
Worst song ever? Thread and nobody nominated “Seasons in the Sun”?
Eesh. It’s like I don’t even know you people anymore! Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald Trump is our duly elected president. at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (l0Cy4) 513
506 The only person to kill more Chinese than Japan was Mao.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:52 PM (DTrmb) Hard to kill 100M+ that quickly. Only took him ≈30 years. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (ynpvh) 514
511 Well, I was eating lunch and could not type but you all are nuts.
Good night. Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (WCzQY) That's what McMcAuliffe said Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:54 PM (ynpvh) Posted by: Upper-crust Brit at October 20, 2022 11:54 PM (bW8dp) 516
FDR was practically another Biden by late 1944. Truman had to be forced onto the ticket because FDR's handlers and the VP were such commie sympathisers.
Posted by: Oldcat --- Yes, FDR was a basket case. Moron-recommended read, 'The New Dealers' War: F.D.R. and the War Within World War II' , by Thomas Fleming GoodReads review: https://tinyurl.com/2buzv6u4 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 20, 2022 11:54 PM (edjZf) 517
TxMoMeet.
WOW!!! Posted by: NaCly Dog (CQ8KO) at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (CQ8KO) Yes indeed - what Salty said!! Posted by: Doof at October 20, 2022 11:55 PM (bApRP) 518
to the germans
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:55 PM (ynpvh) 519
@Rondinella, #406
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:55 PM (7B5FA) 520
513 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (ynpvh)
Piker. //Pol Pot 2.5 million in 3.5 years or 32.5% of the Cambodian population to you and me Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:56 PM (Lzpvj) 521
Nagasaki is pretty hilly. The bomb basically exploded between two hills sloping into town, so the damage wasn't as great as expected. (The bomb memorial is up in the hills and has a statue that is pretty ugly, yet endearing.)
Hiroshima on the other hand is pretty flat. You can stand on the T-bridge which was the intended ground zero. The wrecked memorial dome building (the actual hypocenter) is only a few hundred yards to the southeast. Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 20, 2022 11:56 PM (vuisn) 522
The left keep screaming about how the right wants to have a dictatorship and they're going to keep pushing until we do. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (Bd6X More projecting. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:56 PM (NkGvj) 523
520 513 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (ynpvh)
Piker. //Pol Pot 2.5 million in 3.5 years or 32.5% of the Cambodian population to you and me Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:56 PM (Lzpvj) He started quickly, then fizzled out. Not a big enough starting population. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:56 PM (ynpvh) 524
You can stand on the T-bridge which was the intended ground zero. The wrecked memorial dome building (the actual hypocenter) is only a few hundred yards to the southeast.
Posted by: Dr. Varno So, close enough? Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 11:57 PM (5laLd) 525
> @elonmusk's ventures to national security reviews, including his deal for Twitter Inc.,...
Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM (ZLI7S) I just saw on Insty that Musk is planning on shitcanning 75% of the workforce if the deal goes through. Prediction: the platform will continue to operate just fine without those particular Twats. Posted by: Upper-crust Brit at October 20, 2022 11:57 PM (bW8dp) 526
I read somewhere that Truman was asked,
if you decide not to drop the bombs, what will you say to the American people during your impeachment trial when it comes out you could've saved over one million US casualties? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:40 PM (ynpvh) I think Truman himself said "our purpose is not to reduce enemy casualties; our purpose is to reduce American casualties." for all the angst about using the bomb in later years, it was a no brainer at the time, and only an idiot would have objected. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:57 PM (r46W7) 527
Anna Puma- I laughed out loud with the Vespa and woke up my cat. I totally forgot about the dramatic bike pictures! So many things popping back in my head. Maybe I need to belt out a quick “When We Were Young!”
On that note, I am hitting the showers and bed. 815a cardio class and I don’t even know my Choreo for it yet. Should be a shizzle show! Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 11:57 PM (0GTCG) 528
Bock's Car primary target was Kokura. But clouds prevented a visual bombing. They tried three times before going to the secondary - Nagasaki.
Over Nagasaki again clouds prevented a visual bomb run. With the plane running low on fuel it was looking like an abort when the bombardier called out he had a break in the clouds. So down went Fat Man far off target so far fewer died than at Hiroshima where Little Boy was only 1,800ft from target. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:57 PM (DTrmb) 529
522
The left keep screaming about how the right wants to have a dictatorship and they're going to keep pushing until we do. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 20, 2022 11:53 PM (Bd6X More projecting. Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2022 11:56 PM (NkGvj) Explains why Hollywood is filled with leftists...always projecting Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:57 PM (ynpvh) 530
> The only person to kill more Chinese than Japan was Mao.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:52 PM (DTrmb) And the only person to kill more Russians than Germany was Stalin. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 20, 2022 11:58 PM (bW8dp) 531
A few codices have survived, but not many.
Yeah, there are like five known genuine pre-Colombian documents. Zero are Aztec. IIRC, the conquistadores burned or otherwise destroyed all the Aztec / Indian records they could, largely for religious reasons. Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 10:27 PM (eOEVl) Sounds a lot like BLM and Antifa. Tear down the statues. Ban the Names on the Buildings. Today is Year Zero. Posted by: rd at October 20, 2022 11:58 PM (Z32m1) 532
@Blanco, I have never understood why they don't understand that the half of the country that has the firearms and knows how to use them isn't their half.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:58 PM (7B5FA) 533
524 You can stand on the T-bridge which was the intended ground zero. The wrecked memorial dome building (the actual hypocenter) is only a few hundred yards to the southeast.
Posted by: Dr. Varno So, close enough? Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2022 11:57 PM (5laLd) When my Dad was stationed in Japan during the occupation (had been enroute from the Philippine theater when the Japs surrendered), he was offered a trip to see the bomb sites up close and personal; he declined. He had seen enough in Luzon. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:59 PM (ynpvh) 534
*waves to Salty*
Posted by: SMH at October 20, 2022 11:59 PM (FmWih) 535
Scoop: Biden admin officials are discussing whether US should subject some of @elonmusk's ventures to national security reviews, including his deal for Twitter Inc., and the Starlink satellite network, sources tell @SalehaMohsin and me. @BloombergTV
Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM I think that's the Faculty Lounge Junta trying to strongarm Musk on .gov contracts for Starlink service. Musk dropping it into UKR was just a proof of concept and demonstration. Posted by: Bert G at October 20, 2022 11:59 PM (aCgRi) 536
Oh sorry.
Little Boy only missed the Aioi Bridge by 800ft and instead exploded directly over Dr. Shima's clinic. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:59 PM (DTrmb) 537
523 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:56 PM (ynpvh)
He impressed the NVA enough they invaded.... if you have ever been around the Viets and Khmer you know they "love each other." How impressive must your human rights violations be that your comrades to the east feel the need to invade you to get you to quit? Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:59 PM (Lzpvj) 538
The B-29 was also a very effective harbor mining platform. Said to be cheaper than mine delivery by submarine, Operation Starvation as it was called, was a third tool bringing Japan closer to defeat. The whole “B-29 program was more expensive than the Manhattan Project” needs some context when you consider two bombs vs 3000 plus bombers built during the war that weren’t a single use weapon.
Posted by: Rex B at October 20, 2022 11:59 PM (JWYBQ) 539
Sounds a lot like BLM and Antifa. Tear down the statues. Ban the Names on the Buildings. Today is Year Zero. Posted by: rd at October 20, 2022 11:58 PM (Z32m1)
Change the calendar, too, while you're at it. Posted by: Committee of Public Safety at October 21, 2022 12:00 AM (7B5FA) 540
Hey Anna!
Posted by: SMH at October 21, 2022 12:00 AM (FmWih) 541
@Blanco, I have never understood why they don't understand that the half of the country that has the firearms and knows how to use them isn't their half.
Look at the things they believe. Reality isn't their strong suite. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 21, 2022 12:00 AM (Bd6X8) 542
The only person to kill more Chinese than Japan was Mao.
Posted by: Anna Puma And the only person to kill more Russians than Germany was Stalin. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia Some days after listening to the news it appears our 'elite' are trying to follow that pattern. . . Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2022 12:00 AM (5laLd) Posted by: JCT at October 21, 2022 12:00 AM (aYpFd) 544
535 Scoop: Biden admin officials are discussing whether US should subject some of @elonmusk's ventures to national security reviews, including his deal for Twitter Inc., and the Starlink satellite network, sources tell @SalehaMohsin and me. @BloombergTV
Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2022 11:36 PM I think that's the Faculty Lounge Junta trying to strongarm Musk on .gov contracts for Starlink service. Musk dropping it into UKR was just a proof of concept and demonstration. Posted by: Bert G at October 20, 2022 11:59 PM (aCgRi) Twitter = National Security? I guess that means they're part of the Security state, no? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:01 AM (ynpvh) 545
> He had seen enough in Luzon.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:59 PM (ynpvh) My grandfather was also in the Philippines during WWII and saw a lot of the stuff they'd done. Somehow he never quite warmed up to the Japanese for the rest of his life. To put it mildly. I suppose nowadays he'd be considered a "racist", even though he liked the Filipinos just fine, and had no particular problem with (non-communist) Koreans or Chinese. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:01 AM (bW8dp) 546
I think Truman himself said "our purpose is not to reduce enemy casualties; our purpose is to reduce American casualties."
for all the angst about using the bomb in later years, it was a no brainer at the time, and only an idiot would have objected. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:57 PM (r46W7) By my time in the 70s I don't remember this getting any traction outside of the leftist enclaves on the coasts. Now it might be different but the leftists know too little history but just spout 'patriarchy' and 'Handmaids Tale' Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:01 AM (NkGvj) Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:02 AM (DTrmb) 548
Little Boy only missed the Aioi Bridge by 800ft and instead exploded directly over Dr. Shima's clinic.
Posted by: Anna Puma LB was set to explode at around 1800 feet. Would have been closer if it went all the way to ground. Posted by: Rex B at October 21, 2022 12:02 AM (JWYBQ) 549
Over Nagasaki again clouds prevented a visual bomb run. With the plane running low on fuel it was looking like an abort when the bombardier called out he had a break in the clouds. So down went Fat Man far off target so far fewer died than at Hiroshima where Little Boy was only 1,800ft from target.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:57 PM (DTrmb) Nevertheless, the point was made. America had a new and devastating weapon, and had made more than one of them. Japan could not survive continued bombardment with nuclear bombs. Surrender became the only sane option. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 21, 2022 12:02 AM (IpSZQ) 550
538 The B-29 was also a very effective harbor mining platform. Said to be cheaper than mine delivery by submarine, Operation Starvation as it was called, was a third tool bringing Japan closer to defeat. The whole “B-29 program was more expensive than the Manhattan Project” needs some context when you consider two bombs vs 3000 plus bombers built during the war that weren’t a single use weapon.
Posted by: Rex B at October 20, 2022 11:59 PM (JWYBQ) The cleanup post-war would've been a bitch, too. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:02 AM (ynpvh) 551
Prediction: the platform will continue to operate just fine without those particular Twats. Posted by: Upper-crust Brit at October 20, 2022 11:57 PM (bW8dp)
With only 1/4th of the meetings. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 12:02 AM (7B5FA) 552
542 The only person to kill more Chinese than Japan was Mao.
Posted by: Anna Puma And the only person to kill more Russians than Germany was Stalin. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia Some days after listening to the news it appears our 'elite' are trying to follow that pattern. . . Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2022 12:00 AM (5laLd) I mean, Alinsky only wanted to liquidate what, 20M Americans? Yeah, a definite pattern with leftists. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:03 AM (ynpvh) 553
> Some days after listening to the news it appears our 'elite' are trying to follow that pattern. . .
Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2022 12:00 AM (5laLd) Communists only get erections (or get wet, if they're female) at the thought of enormous piles of corpses. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:04 AM (bW8dp) 554
Is there a trustworthy tally of how many drag queens were lost when the Library of Alexandria combusted?
Posted by: Leaky Joe at October 21, 2022 12:04 AM (l3SW6) 555
>>>Starship 'We Built This City'
Ok, you got that one right. You're not complete idiot. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 20, 2022 10:59 PM "We Built This City" is actually a good song to be playing on the jukebox when you are bussing tables and waiting for the pizza joint to close so you can get your tips and go home when you are 17, 37 years ago. Posted by: Chuck C at October 21, 2022 12:04 AM (xttsV) 556
Look at the things they believe. Reality isn't their strong suite. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 21, 2022 12:00 AM (Bd6X
True. I have posted many times that they live in a fantasy world where you can choose your gender, the oceans are boiling, and the police are hunting young black men. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 12:04 AM (7B5FA) 557
That list of songs goes on forever.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 10:45 PM (63Dwl) And the journey never ends? Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2022 12:04 AM (xhaym) 558
Twitter = National Security? I guess that means they're part of the Security state, no?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:01 AM My guess on that part, and it's only a guess, is that they're using the twatter deal as financial leverage to get the Starlink deal they want. They probably want deeply discounted prices on space delivery, too. Posted by: Bert G at October 21, 2022 12:04 AM (aCgRi) 559
The Leftists are also ignorant of how the US and allies wanted to turn over the nuclear genie to the United Nations when that version met at Dunbar Oaks. But the Soviets vetoed it.
Thus the whole nuclear arms race and Damoclean Sword that was forged from it can be laid at the feet of Iosef Stalin and the Soviet Union. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:05 AM (DTrmb) 560
"We Built This City" is actually a good song to be playing on the jukebox when you are bussing tables and waiting for the pizza joint to close so you can get your tips and go home when you are 17, 37 years ago. Posted by: Chuck C at October 21, 2022 12:04 AM (xttsV)
#51 Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 12:05 AM (7B5FA) 561
545 > He had seen enough in Luzon.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 20, 2022 11:59 PM (ynpvh) My grandfather was also in the Philippines during WWII and saw a lot of the stuff they'd done. Somehow he never quite warmed up to the Japanese for the rest of his life. To put it mildly. I suppose nowadays he'd be considered a "racist", even though he liked the Filipinos just fine, and had no particular problem with (non-communist) Koreans or Chinese. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:01 AM (bW8dp) Dad was in the hospital back about 15 years ago. His therapist was a young lady of Japanese decent. He says, "You're Japanese? I invaded your country!". I kinda shrank away... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:05 AM (ynpvh) 562
I suppose nowadays he'd be considered a "racist", even though he liked the Filipinos just fine, and had no particular problem with (non-communist) Koreans or Chinese.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:01 AM (bW8dp) My Ohioan uncle was stationed out there and adopted three Korean girls to go with his one son and were all part of the family. But the east coasters keep telling me how my family isn't as caring as those who do nothing but tax us and get jobs and sometimes do a good work or two. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:05 AM (NkGvj) 563
Worst song ever: tie between Seasons in the Sun and Yummy, Yummy, Yummy I've Got Love in My Tummy.
Fight me. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:06 AM (bW8dp) 564
Nevertheless, the point was made. America had a new and devastating weapon, and had made more than one of them. Japan could not survive continued bombardment with nuclear bombs. Surrender became the only sane option.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon Can you imagine the reaction of the flag level Japanese brass immediately after the initial damage reports were received. "What? One bomb? How much damage?" In the Comm shack, whispering - 'COL Suzuki has lost his mind. Get someone else on the horn.' Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2022 12:06 AM (5laLd) 565
The Leftists are also ignorant of how the US and allies wanted to turn over the nuclear genie to the United Nations when that version met at Dunbar Oaks. But the Soviets vetoed it.
Thus the whole nuclear arms race and Damoclean Sword that was forged from it can be laid at the feet of Iosef Stalin and the Soviet Union. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:05 AM (DTrmb) Given the fecklessness of the UN, I suppose I agree with Stalin on that one. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:07 AM (NkGvj) 566
549 Over Nagasaki again clouds prevented a visual bomb run. With the plane running low on fuel it was looking like an abort when the bombardier called out he had a break in the clouds. So down went Fat Man far off target so far fewer died than at Hiroshima where Little Boy was only 1,800ft from target.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2022 11:57 PM (DTrmb) Nevertheless, the point was made. America had a new and devastating weapon, and had made more than one of them. Japan could not survive continued bombardment with nuclear bombs. Surrender became the only sane option. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 21, 2022 12:02 AM (IpSZQ) Except the Military said, "Hey, a few inches of dirt, and our soldiers can survive this new bomb. Let's fight on!" Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:07 AM (ynpvh) 567
Del Shannon - Runaway
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 21, 2022 12:07 AM (z+OQR) 568
The cleanup post-war would've been a bitch, too.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) Yes. On the ground in Japan and at Hanford WA where I believe cleanup continues. Posted by: Rex B at October 21, 2022 12:07 AM (JWYBQ) 569
"Observation. People who are the most angry right now fall into 2 categories: authoritarians who sense they're losing control of their fear narrative & ppl who believed the fear narrative but are now struggling with cognitive dissonance. The latter deserve our empathy & compassion"
She forgets people who lost family and were forced out of jobs and abandoned by friends while both suspecting from the beginning it was a crock or shite and being told now "too bad" and "you can thank us now" They are the ones that aren't interested in empathy or compassion, but might be interested in vengeance. Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2022 12:07 AM (xhaym) 570
553 > Some days after listening to the news it appears our 'elite' are trying to follow that pattern. . .
Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2022 12:00 AM (5laLd) Communists only get erections (or get wet, if they're female) at the thought of enormous piles of corpses. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:04 AM (bW8dp) Hey, it's HER PENIS! Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:08 AM (ynpvh) 571
Heya SMH
Having fun? Posted by: Anna Puma ___ With the exception of the stomach bug, yeah, heh. Hate having to say goodbye to my eldest baby tomorrow, though. Posted by: SMH at October 21, 2022 12:08 AM (FmWih) 572
Ex post facto knowledge
Japan had issued a directive that if the Allies did invade the Home Islands, every Allied POW would be killed. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:08 AM (DTrmb) 573
554 Is there a trustworthy tally of how many drag queens were lost when the Library of Alexandria combusted?
Posted by: Leaky Joe at October 21, 2022 12:04 AM (l3SW6) I think they mostly sank...they were a...drag. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:08 AM (ynpvh) 574
Is there a trustworthy tally of how many drag queens were lost when the Library of Alexandria combusted?
Posted by: Leaky Joe at October 21, 2022 12:04 AM (l3SW6) The cult of the Magna Mater was pretty bizzare by Roman standards, with self castration being a big part of it. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:08 AM (NkGvj) 575
560 "We Built This City" is actually a good song to be playing on the jukebox when you are bussing tables and waiting for the pizza joint to close so you can get your tips and go home when you are 17, 37 years ago. Posted by: Chuck C
My bartender friends always had particular songs to play to clear out a bar when they closed. But one thing they all agreed on was if you played Slayer some fights were guaranteed to break out. Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 21, 2022 12:09 AM (vuisn) 576
Hanford WA where I believe cleanup continues. Posted by: Rex B at October 21, 2022 12:07 AM (JWYBQ)
And will continue to continue as long as Uncle Sam is basically writing a blank check. There will be people whose grandparents and grandchildren worked on the cleanup, getting a good fat government check the whole time. No one has any incentive to stop. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 12:09 AM (7B5FA) 577
Admiral Toyoda after Hiroshima, "The Americans only have one bomb."
And we are seeing similar thinking with the chattering class in DC and their talk of limited nuclear exchange not being a big thing. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:10 AM (DTrmb) 578
Thus the whole nuclear arms race and Damoclean Sword that was forged from it can be laid at the feet of Iosef Stalin and the Soviet Union.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:05 AM (DTrmb) You mean the UN that has Iran as part of the council on human rights and is rumored to pay hush money to prostitutes that get injured badly by delegates who are attending and living in New York? Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2022 12:10 AM (xhaym) 579
The cult of the Magna Mater was pretty bizzare by Roman standards, with self castration being a big part of it.
Kind of like Heaven's Gate? Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 21, 2022 12:10 AM (Bd6X8) 580
565 The Leftists are also ignorant of how the US and allies wanted to turn over the nuclear genie to the United Nations when that version met at Dunbar Oaks. But the Soviets vetoed it.
Thus the whole nuclear arms race and Damoclean Sword that was forged from it can be laid at the feet of Iosef Stalin and the Soviet Union. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:05 AM (DTrmb) Given the fecklessness of the UN, I suppose I agree with Stalin on that one. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:07 AM (NkGvj) Had a college history teacher that believed the UN should have had Nukes at their disposal. Well, hell, they have the human right's council filled with the worst of the worst human rights violators; what could POSSIBLE go wrong? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:11 AM (ynpvh) 581
think that's the Faculty Lounge Junta trying to strongarm Musk on .gov contracts for Starlink service. Musk dropping it into UKR was just a proof of concept and demonstration.
Posted by: Bert G at October 20, 2022 11:59 PM (aCgRi) Twitter = National Security? I guess that means they're part of the Security state, no? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:01 AM (ynpvh) Musk cut it off because the Pentagon refused to pay for maintaining it. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:11 AM (NkGvj) 582
Luckily for Japan both atomic weapons were fused to be air bursts.
If they had been ground bursts, who knows how much radioactive dirt would have been thrown up and scattered. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:12 AM (DTrmb) 583
> Yummy, Yummy I've Got Love in My Tummy.
https://tinyurl.com/4zr64vwa It's even worse considering that this "band" didn't actually exist (all of "their" songs were performed by a changing cast of studio musicians). There was a "band" that went on tour, but if I remember right it didn't include ANY of the musicians who'd performed on the records. Ha! Wikipedia says that a young Joe Walsh performed on a couple of these travesties. He must've been hungry. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:12 AM (bW8dp) 584
>>>Now it's your turn. What are some of the best practical jokes you've ever played or witnessed?
My Dad grew up with depression era parents. They did not have a whole lot, lived on a farm. Fast forward some 20 years and three kids later, and microwaves, VCRs, and remote control TVs were cheap enough for the masses. But this did not phase my Dad (the guy that would open the breaker for the baseboard heaters, because we'd crank the heat too high). Every time he would come home and we were laying on the couch with the remote control on the floor, we'd get the lecture about a remote getting stepped on, broken, they were irreplaceable. After maybe 1,000 times, he got tired of talking and took the remotes away. Fast forward another 20 years, and we were preparing for annual elk hunting camp, and I had rounded up a whole grocery bag full of various remotes for TVs, VCRs, stereos from Goodwill, yard sales, etc. One night after he went to bed, my brother and I scattered all the remotes outside of his trailer on the ground for the presumptive panic attack that would occur as he would have to navigate the minefield of remotes when he got up. Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 21, 2022 12:12 AM (yHsuS) 585
Hanford WA where I believe cleanup continues. Posted by: Rex B at October 21, 2022 12:07 AM (JWYBQ)
And will continue to continue as long as Uncle Sam is basically writing a blank check. There will be people whose grandparents and grandchildren worked on the cleanup, getting a good fat government check the whole time. No one has any incentive to stop. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon If we could just move Yucca Mountain 1100 miles north. Posted by: Rex B at October 21, 2022 12:12 AM (DFdns) 586
Musk cut it off because the Pentagon refused to pay for maintaining it.
Posted by: Oldcat ___ So who got to Musk to make him backtrack and say he was gonna maintain it after all? Posted by: SMH at October 21, 2022 12:13 AM (FmWih) 587
574 Is there a trustworthy tally of how many drag queens were lost when the Library of Alexandria combusted?
Posted by: Leaky Joe at October 21, 2022 12:04 AM (l3SW6) The cult of the Magna Mater was pretty bizzare by Roman standards, with self castration being a big part of it. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:08 AM (NkGvj) They hadn't perfected Vaginoplasty/Vulvoplasty back then Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:13 AM (ynpvh) Posted by: JCT at October 21, 2022 12:13 AM (aYpFd) 589
>Del Shannon - Runaway
that's a good song- Bonnie Raitt did a decent cover Del killed himself in 1990 Posted by: DB at October 21, 2022 12:13 AM (geLO8) 590
> And we are seeing similar thinking with the chattering class in DC and their talk of limited nuclear exchange not being a big thing.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:10 AM (DTrmb) Neal De Shitass Tyson being another. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:13 AM (bW8dp) 591
I am talking of the United Nations as formed in 1945. Not the shambling kleptocratic zombie it is now.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:13 AM (DTrmb) 592
Except the Military said, "Hey, a few inches of dirt, and our soldiers can survive this new bomb. Let's fight on!"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:07 AM (ynpvh) In the end, you'd have a Japan with no infrastructure, no cities, no industry, ruined agriculture, and a bunch of starving soldiers running around. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 21, 2022 12:13 AM (IpSZQ) 593
582 Luckily for Japan both atomic weapons were fused to be air bursts.
If they had been ground bursts, who knows how much radioactive dirt would have been thrown up and scattered. Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:12 AM (DTrmb) Air bursts are far more effective, destruction-wise. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:14 AM (ynpvh) 594
Worst song in music history is either "What's Up?" by 4 Non-Blondes, or "Chucky's In Love" by Rickie Lee Jones.
Just the wurst. Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 10:49 Yes, "Chuck E.'s in Love" is the worst song ever. Posted by: Chuck C at October 21, 2022 12:15 AM (xttsV) 595
585 Hanford WA where I believe cleanup continues. Posted by: Rex B at October 21, 2022 12:07 AM (JWYBQ)
And will continue to continue as long as Uncle Sam is basically writing a blank check. There will be people whose grandparents and grandchildren worked on the cleanup, getting a good fat government check the whole time. No one has any incentive to stop. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon If we could just move Yucca Mountain 1100 miles north. Posted by: Rex B at October 21, 2022 12:12 AM (DFdns) They're currently worried that Yucca Mtn. is not stable enough to hold waste for 100,000 years. Say water intrusion will be an issue. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:15 AM (ynpvh) 596
So who got to Musk to make him backtrack and say he was gonna maintain it after all?
His appearance on the Ukraine kill site was in the middle of that, iirc. Posted by: Methos at October 21, 2022 12:15 AM (kOpft) 597
Had a college history teacher that believed the UN should have had Nukes at their disposal. Well, hell, they have the human right's council filled with the worst of the worst human rights violators; what could POSSIBLE go wrong?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:11 AM (ynpvh) The EU shows what having a government layer with no contact with the people gives you in just a few years. The only thing holding them back is that they have no troops. The UN with power would be even worse because there is no fellow feeling between this world government and the people it serves. Look at what ill it has done without armed force Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:15 AM (NkGvj) 598
588 We Built this City gets a bad rap, it's actually actually a pretty catchy pop song.
Posted by: JCT at October 21, 2022 12:13 AM (aYpFd) I agree. I think the issue is more with the lyrics than the music. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:16 AM (ynpvh) 599
thats the worry, bunch of desktop generals whispering in Shitpants ear that we can win a nuke exchange...russia is weak! Payback for Trump!!
Posted by: a dude in MI at October 21, 2022 12:16 AM (+I6Y/) 600
590 > And we are seeing similar thinking with the chattering class in DC and their talk of limited nuclear exchange not being a big thing.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:10 AM (DTrmb) Neal De Shitass Tyson being another. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:13 AM (bW8dp) In a nuclear exchange, Neil de Shitglass? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:17 AM (ynpvh) 601
Air bursts are far more effective, destruction-wise.
More so now. Go up high enough and you can fry an entire continent's electrical grid. In a society dependent on electricity you can probably count on 70%+ casualty rate from one bomb. Very economical. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 21, 2022 12:17 AM (Bd6X8) 602
After a nuclear exchange, Neal will be called charcoal.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2022 12:17 AM (DTrmb) 603
>Yes, "Chuck E.'s in Love" is the worst song ever.
hold that thought Midnight At The Oasis Muskrat Love Posted by: DB at October 21, 2022 12:17 AM (geLO8) 604
> Midnight At The Oasis
That one I actually like, although more for Muldaur's voice than the song per se. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:19 AM (bW8dp) 605
601 Air bursts are far more effective, destruction-wise.
More so now. Go up high enough and you can fry an entire continent's electrical grid. In a society dependent on electricity you can probably count on 70%+ casualty rate from one bomb. Very economical. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 21, 2022 12:17 AM (Bd6X Yes, the EMP burst. You'd need a few to take out the US more-or-less completely. Probably more cost-effective to walk saboteurs across the southern border (their dreamers!) and take out critical transmissions likes and substations, given how long it would take to MAKE replacement parts... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:19 AM (ynpvh) 606
604 > Midnight At The Oasis
That one I actually like, although more for Muldaur's voice than the song per se. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:19 AM (bW8dp) I think the Sheik would be more interested in his camel. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:20 AM (ynpvh) 607
It's even worse considering that this "band" didn't actually exist (all of "their" songs were performed by a changing cast of studio musicians). There was a "band" that went on tour, but if I remember right it didn't include ANY of the musicians who'd performed on the records.
Ha! Wikipedia says that a young Joe Walsh performed on a couple of these travesties. He must've been hungry. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia Who among us hasn't done some pretty tawdry things for $$ when we were young and starving? Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2022 12:20 AM (5laLd) 608
607 It's even worse considering that this "band" didn't actually exist (all of "their" songs were performed by a changing cast of studio musicians). There was a "band" that went on tour, but if I remember right it didn't include ANY of the musicians who'd performed on the records.
Ha! Wikipedia says that a young Joe Walsh performed on a couple of these travesties. He must've been hungry. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia Who among us hasn't done some pretty tawdry things for $$ when we were young and starving? Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2022 12:20 AM (5laLd) "I mean, yeah, right?"--Kumala Harris Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:21 AM (ynpvh) 609
>>>The EU shows what having a government layer with no contact with the people gives you in just a few years. The only thing holding them back is that they have no troops.
The UN with power would be even worse because there is no fellow feeling between this world government and the people it serves. Look at what ill it has done without armed force >The Globalists are all megalomaniacal lunatics. They really need to all go to Africa and focus on developing resources for advanced battery technology. Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 21, 2022 12:21 AM (z+OQR) 610
Midnight At The Oasis
Muskrat Love Posted by: DB at October 21, 2022 12:17 AM (geLO The former song at least has that very nice guitar solo by Amos Garrett. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 21, 2022 12:21 AM (IpSZQ) 611
609 >>>The EU shows what having a government layer with no contact with the people gives you in just a few years. The only thing holding them back is that they have no troops.
The UN with power would be even worse because there is no fellow feeling between this world government and the people it serves. Look at what ill it has done without armed force >The Globalists are all megalomaniacal lunatics. They really need to all go to Africa and focus on developing resources for advanced battery technology. Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 21, 2022 12:21 AM (z+OQR) Poland and Hungary would have been "occupied" for "their own good" for not accepting Mussie invaders. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:21 AM (ynpvh) 612
> I think the Sheik would be more interested in his camel.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:20 AM (ynpvh) Probably, though I seem to remember Maria being pretty tasty-looking at the time. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:22 AM (bW8dp) 613
The things we do for money...
Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 21, 2022 12:22 AM (jTmQV) 614
I guess that makes the EU sound like Nazis. How Godwin of me...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:22 AM (ynpvh) 615
It's even worse considering that this "band" didn't actually exist (all of "their" songs were performed by a changing cast of studio musicians). There was a "band" that went on tour, but if I remember right it didn't include ANY of the musicians who'd performed on the records. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:12 AM (bW8dp)
I think that was done quite a bit back in the day. I remember there was a British guy who was on one of the shows, maybe "Top of the Pops," with two different fake bands on the same show because he had two hits at the same time. IIRC "Kiss Him Goodbye" was one of those where the people who performed the song in the studio didn't know each other until they day they got paid to make the recording, then when it became a surprise hit got together and toured as Steam. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 12:23 AM (7B5FA) 616
Probably, though I seem to remember Maria being pretty tasty-looking at the time.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 21, 2022 12:22 AM (bW8dp) She porked out. Did not age well at all. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 21, 2022 12:23 AM (IpSZQ) 617
We could have taken Japan by air at that point. There would have been no need for "boots on the ground."
Posted by: JCT at October 20, 2022 11:26 PM (aYpFd) The father of a friend of my wife was a Korean electrical engineer working for the Japanese on the home islands. He was working on projects to run high tension wires through tunnels to protect them from air raids until he died of something that sounded like Typhus. American air raids were not going to do anything but flatten things above ground. Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2022 12:24 AM (xhaym) Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 21, 2022 12:24 AM (Bd6X8) 619
Poland and Hungary would have been "occupied" for "their own good" for not accepting Mussie invaders.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:21 AM (ynpvh) The EU still wants to 'invade' Poland even in this Ukraine adventure. There was some big censure act just a month or so ago. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:24 AM (NkGvj) 620
I've served as an extra in a movie.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 21, 2022 12:25 AM (jTmQV) 621
the song I currently hate is Crazy Train (Ozzie Osbourne) because of its over-use at football games
Posted by: DB at October 21, 2022 12:25 AM (geLO8) 622
Funkytown. Garbage lyrics but an A+ for large breasted, half-nekkid dancers.
https://youtu.be/jPF59O7_qw0 Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2022 12:27 AM (5laLd) 623
I've stooped so low as to actually get a job.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 21, 2022 12:24 AM Well, at least you didn't work with your hands, right? Right?? Posted by: Zettai at October 21, 2022 12:28 AM (be5j4) 624
Well, at least you didn't work with your hands, right?
Right?? It was easier than working with my feet. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 21, 2022 12:28 AM (Bd6X8) 625
241 Song question: I just drove across country with my niece - about 25 years younger.
What's the best road-trip song? C W McCall. Convoy Cledus Maggard (so?). White Knight Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at October 21, 2022 12:29 AM (7SwmH) 626
I'd spent the first several decades of my life thinking that 'manual labor' was the president of Mexico... Posted by: Zettai at October 21, 2022 12:29 AM (be5j4) 627
519 @Rondinella, #406
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2022 11:55 PM (7B5FA) I was a little kid when that song came out and even then I thought it was cheesy, but when you compare it to current pop songs… Eh. Who am I kidding? It’s still cheesy. Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald Trump is our duly elected president. at October 21, 2022 12:29 AM (l0Cy4) 628
The fire bombings of Tokyo certainly killed more than the A-bombs, but were spread over many days.
I have read that the A-bombs were only 3rd and 4th in most civilians killed in a single day in Asia in that decade. The top two (I forget in which order) were both done retail, not wholesale, with knives, swords, guns, and bare hands: the Rape of Nanking, and the sack of Manila, where the Japanese went door to door raping and killing civilians on the last day before they pulled out as the U.S. Army arrived. Posted by: Dr. Weevil at October 21, 2022 12:30 AM (dSnq/) 629
I'd spent the first several decades of my life thinking that 'manual labor' was the president of Mexico...
Posted by: Zettai ___ You're kidding, right? Posted by: SMH at October 21, 2022 12:30 AM (FmWih) 630
What's the best road-trip song?
C W McCall. Convoy Cledus Maggard (so?). White Knight Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at October 21, 2022 12:29 AM (7SwmH) Radar Love by Golden Earring Roundabout by Yes Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:30 AM (NkGvj) 631
It's hard to discuss seriously anything involving the conflict when people are willing to believe that a nation would shell a nuclear power station that it controls, blow up its own gas pipelines, blow up its own bridge, has a president the has died of cancer ten times, is out of bullets, that all of its citizens are leaving, that its planning the destruction of its own dams, that it is secretly planting viruses in American virology labs, and is losing to an actor in a green-screen video.
If you can believe that, you can believe that Biden got 81 million votes. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 21, 2022 12:30 AM (xLqhd) Posted by: Zettai at October 21, 2022 12:31 AM (be5j4) 633
I'd spent the first several decades of my life thinking that 'manual labor' was the president of Mexico...
And Taco Bell was the Mexican phone company? Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 21, 2022 12:31 AM (Bd6X8) 634
'd spent the first several decades of my life thinking that 'manual labor' was the president of Mexico...
And Taco Bell was the Mexican phone company? Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 21, 2022 12:31 AM (Bd6X That's crazy. It was one of the Baby bells after the breakup of ATT. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:32 AM (NkGvj) 635
I'd spent the first several decades of my life thinking that 'manual labor' was the president of Mexico...
Posted by: Zettai at October 21, 2022 12:29 AM (be5j4) That is AmLo: Andrés Manuel López Obrado Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2022 12:32 AM (xhaym) 636
Was never caught. Heh.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (Gda1b) I was inadvertently became the phantom shitter on a boat mumbledy years ago. My Chief knew, but the rest of the crew did not. Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 21, 2022 12:33 AM (yHsuS) 637
635 I'd spent the first several decades of my life thinking that 'manual labor' was the president of Mexico...
Posted by: Zettai at October 21, 2022 12:29 AM (be5j4) That is AmLo: Andrés Manuel López Obrado Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2022 12:32 AM (xhaym) Not to be confused with AAMCO. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:34 AM (ynpvh) 638
I'd spent the first several decades of my life thinking that 'manual labor' was the president of Mexico...
Posted by: Zettai at October 21, 2022 12:29 AM (be5j4) That is AmLo: Andrés Manuel López Obrado Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2022 12:32 AM (xhaym) Not to be confused with AAMCO. Or Amdro. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 21, 2022 12:35 AM (Bd6X8) 639
634 'd spent the first several decades of my life thinking that 'manual labor' was the president of Mexico...
And Taco Bell was the Mexican phone company? Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 21, 2022 12:31 AM (Bd6X That's crazy. It was one of the Baby bells after the breakup of ATT. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:32 AM (NkGvj) BabyBels are quite cheesy. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:36 AM (ynpvh) Posted by: Weirddave at October 21, 2022 12:37 AM (zjsv2) 641
636 Was never caught. Heh.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2022 10:46 PM (Gda1b) I was inadvertently became the phantom shitter on a boat mumbledy years ago. My Chief knew, but the rest of the crew did not. Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 21, 2022 12:33 AM (yHsuS) So Star Wars Episode 1 then? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:37 AM (ynpvh) 642
Dear Crom in Valhalla, can we relegate the fucking "in fairness" tic to the same ashbin as B-l-a-z-e-r?
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 21, 2022 12:38 AM (wWc3l) 643
640 Mao 80
Stalin 30 Hitler was a piker US 65 since 1973. We don't really have room to talk. Posted by: Weirddave at October 21, 2022 12:37 AM (zjsv2) that was self-serve, the others were not. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:38 AM (ynpvh) 644
US 65 since 1973. We don't really have room to talk.
Posted by: Weirddave at October 21, 2022 12:37 AM Touché... Posted by: Zettai at October 21, 2022 12:38 AM (be5j4) 645
So Star Wars Episode 1 then?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:37 AM (ynpvh) Yep. How it got back to me makes the strawberry investigation kind of quaint. Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 21, 2022 12:39 AM (yHsuS) 646
US 65 since 1973. We don't really have room to talk.
Posted by: Weirddave at October 21, 2022 12:37 AM (zjsv2) The coroner ruled most of those death by suicide Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:39 AM (NkGvj) 647
I think the difference between those that went off on Covid and those that didn't depends on whether the individual could be classified as a crank or not
A crank is an individual who holds deep beliefs or convictions at a level that tends to ignore or override contrary facts, and can override the need to be socially compliant. This can be a fascination with potatoes and potato cultivation, interest in square jet exhausts, development of steam powered rockets, people who smoke in spite of all the propaganda about it . . . All of these traits and interests are of questionable usefulness and in less dedicated people would be abandoned. However the crank will not go along to get along. I think that is the string that ties it all together. Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2022 12:39 AM (xhaym) 648
Thus the whole nuclear arms race and Damoclean Sword that was forged from it can be laid at the feet of Iosef Stalin and the Soviet Union.
So the old bastard did do something positive after all? Because absent MAD we'd have fought WWIII in Europe by the 1960s at the latest. Posted by: Weirddave at October 21, 2022 12:41 AM (zjsv2) 649
However the crank will not go along to get along.
I think that is the string that ties it all together. Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2022 12:39 AM (xhaym) Most societies don't have cranks at the heads of the military, medical, and governmental factions. Or at least the same kind of cranks. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:42 AM (NkGvj) 650
Don't have any great prank stories I was involved in...but funny stories passed down. Accidents, stuff like that (mostly).
Relative and his cousin, when they were kids, had caught a whole bunch of crawfish and had them in a cardboard box, and decided to thumb a ride home. So in the back of the car was this carboard box of crawfish. When the left, the kids lifted the box...and the bottom had fallen apart. They left and let the guy keep on driving...with crawfish running loose in his car... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:42 AM (ynpvh) 651
147 I hate that song "little ditty about Jack and Diane". Only song I can think of that I will have to change channel or turn off.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (fivxw) Right with you on that one. Posted by: Half Dozen at October 21, 2022 12:43 AM (13/KK) 652
651 147 I hate that song "little ditty about Jack and Diane". Only song I can think of that I will have to change channel or turn off.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (fivxw) Right with you on that one. Posted by: Half Dozen at October 21, 2022 12:43 AM (13/KK) Not a big fan of "Hurts so Good". good music, lyrics not so much. I mean, I don't want love to hurt...sounds a bit massochistic to me. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:44 AM (ynpvh) 653
147 I hate that song "little ditty about Jack and Diane". Only song I can think of that I will have to change channel or turn off.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (fivxw) Right with you on that one. Posted by: Half Dozen at October 21, 2022 12:43 AM (13/KK) Toto's Africa is that one for me - killed by overexposure on radio, and I had long drives to and from college. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:44 AM (NkGvj) 654
653 147 I hate that song "little ditty about Jack and Diane". Only song I can think of that I will have to change channel or turn off.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at October 20, 2022 10:37 PM (fivxw) Right with you on that one. Posted by: Half Dozen at October 21, 2022 12:43 AM (13/KK) Toto's Africa is that one for me - killed by overexposure on radio, and I had long drives to and from college. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:44 AM (NkGvj) Only mainstream song I know with Kilimanjaro in it. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:45 AM (ynpvh) 655
Not a one-day event, but the deliberate flooding of the Yellow River basin (via destruction of key levees), to stop a Japanese army offensive, in June 1938 may have killed up to 800K people, and certainly created millions of refugees.
Easily the least known, biggest humanitarian calamity of the war in east Asia. And fairly concentrated in time, if not all in a day. All of the musings about woulda coulda shoulda WRT the bombs and Japan and surrender that one sees are utterly divorced from reality, which is the actual historical context. Not just in terms of second guessing decisions (poorly, absurdly really). But ignorance of the actual context. (cont'd) Posted by: rhomboid at October 21, 2022 12:47 AM (OTzUX) 656
Got My Mind Set On You by George Harrison was a pretty annoying song.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 21, 2022 12:47 AM (xLqhd) 657
SSSsssss six hundred fifty-plus comments awreddy?
Must be Rooski bots. Follow me for more tinfoil hat conspiracies. Posted by: mindful webworker - YouTube utterly without reason cancelled me at October 21, 2022 12:48 AM (Ewmxj) 658
Recently heard a live show with John ' Dont call me Cougar' Melloncamp - sounded like a Bruce Springsteen imitator aka not good
Posted by: a dude in MI at October 21, 2022 12:49 AM (+I6Y/) 659
656 Got My Mind Set On You by George Harrison was a pretty annoying song.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 21, 2022 12:47 AM (xLqhd) Da Da Da... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqTBlft8gQA Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:49 AM (ynpvh) 660
The Bird is the Word
Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 21, 2022 12:50 AM (jTmQV) 661
Springsteen licks the sweat off a dead man's balls.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 21, 2022 12:50 AM (wWc3l) 662
The number of excess deaths (and less quantifiable damage like suffering, ruination of health and shortening of life expectancy) that were happening for *every day* the war continued vastly vastly vastly exceeded the bomb casualties (by large multiples, probably). Including inside Japan, which unsurprisingly after a decade of under-nutrition and privation and destruction of industry and commerce was on the precipice of a catastrophic public health collapse, and certainly would have seen it if the war continued through April or May 1946.
The Allied POWs (and internees) murdered upon invasion of the home islands (per existing Imperial military order, as Anna Puma noted above) is really just the tip of the iceberg, numerically speaking. Counterfactuals are generally stupid and rely on ignorance of key facts to make them "interesting", but fantasizing humanitarian advantages to no bomb use may be the grandaddy of them all. Posted by: rhomboid at October 21, 2022 12:50 AM (OTzUX) 663
661 Springsteen licks the sweat off a dead man's balls.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 21, 2022 12:50 AM (wWc3l) Its that time of the year again... SANTA CLAWS IS COMMMING TO TOOOOWN!! by Bruce and the boys Posted by: a dude in MI at October 21, 2022 12:52 AM (+I6Y/) 664
661 Springsteen licks the sweat off a dead man's balls.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 21, 2022 12:50 AM (wWc3l) Only because he can't lick his own. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:52 AM (ynpvh) Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:52 AM (ynpvh) Posted by: Klaus Schwab, George Soros, Bill Gates, Lex Luthor at October 21, 2022 12:53 AM (Ewmxj) 667
665 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy8kmNEo1i8
Scatman. Nice beat, but repetitive as hell... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:52 AM (ynpvh) Then again, most homeless guys fit the definition of scatmen... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:53 AM (ynpvh) Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:54 AM (ynpvh) 669
668 666
Heh Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:54 AM (ynpvh) Shoulda seen that coming. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:55 AM (ynpvh) 670
Only mainstream song I know with Kilimanjaro in it. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 12:45 AM (ynpvh) Glad Bluebird of Happiness / Joan Baez / David's Album / 1969 I know / I´ve touched the desert sunsets cold placed it of the melted snows of Kilimanjaro / And he goes flying, far over the ocean blue, .... did a google search and a site had 14 pages of results, Africa wasn't until about page 5. I grant that some of these might not be mainstream. Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2022 12:56 AM (NkGvj) 671
Got My Mind Set On You by George Harrison was a pretty annoying song. Posted by: Bitter Clinger Six Words Long https://youtu.be/do5vXn_Rap4 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 21, 2022 12:57 AM (63Dwl) 672
Well, I am about played out for the night. Be well, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 21, 2022 12:59 AM (IpSZQ) 673
Alice's Restaurant was a pretty annoying tune.
It was one of my go to songs on the jukebox when I wanted the customers to leave and go home. For $2 out of the tip jar, I could play Alice's Restaurant, Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, Inna Gadda da Vida, American Pie, and Do You Feel Like We Do. That would run them right off. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 21, 2022 01:00 AM (xLqhd) 674
In Indiana John Mellencamp holds the same place in popular regard as Willie Nelson in Texas or Bruce Springsteen in New Jersey. Everyone in Indiana has a story about when they saw him in a bar.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 01:01 AM (7B5FA) 675
Because this is a family blog, I keep it toned down and tell you a little prank we pulled quite often.
When somebody on the crew got out of hand, we put his rolling tool box on a pallet and place it randomly in the warehouse on the 4th level of the storage racks and make him go find it himself. Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 21, 2022 01:02 AM (z+OQR) 676
673 Alice's Restaurant was a pretty annoying tune.
It was one of my go to songs on the jukebox when I wanted the customers to leave and go home. For $2 out of the tip jar, I could play Alice's Restaurant, Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, Inna Gadda da Vida, American Pie, and Do You Feel Like We Do. That would run them right off. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 21, 2022 01:00 AM (xLqhd) Inna Gad da Vida...damn, dude. All that drumming... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:02 AM (ynpvh) 677
Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
November 10 is coming up. A morning show in Houston used to play the song once a year. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 01:03 AM (7B5FA) 678
674 In Indiana John Mellencamp holds the same place in popular regard as Willie Nelson in Texas or Bruce Springsteen in New Jersey. Everyone in Indiana has a story about when they saw him in a bar.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 01:01 AM (7B5FA) Sucking on chili dogs? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:03 AM (ynpvh) 679
Gotta go to bed soon (some time ago, actually), but I have to ask, what Moron chatter filled up 600 comments tonight? Comments from Corsicana?
_____ tangentially I will never be able to recover all my videos YouTube removed. Here's one from 2014 which I just got uploaded to my website today. I think this shows the innocent and innocuous nature of my webworks. Why would they squash a little bug like me? (Remember the tv show "Reboot"?) Hexadecimal Hillary - Queen of Chaos The unmistakable laughter, the wicked joy, it all fits! http://bit.ly/hex-hill Posted by: mindful webworker - YouTube inexplicably without warning locked me out and destroyed my channel at October 21, 2022 01:04 AM (Ewmxj) 680
A basic outline of the realities of the time can be found in Richard Frank's "Downfall", and "Hell to Pay" by Giangreco.
Frank is now doing a trilogy on the lesser known aspects of Japan's war in east Asia (which would be most of them). His first volume, Tower of Skulls, focuses on China, up to Pearl Harbor. In the following books I imagine he'll document the cost of Japanese occupation and conquest in the vast areas of east Asia and the Pacific involved. Every day the war continued meant adding to the "tower of skulls" Imperial Japan was building in places from Burma to Indonesia to Vietnam to Malaysia, whether through direct action or the privation that resulted. Posted by: rhomboid at October 21, 2022 01:04 AM (OTzUX) 681
680 A basic outline of the realities of the time can be found in Richard Frank's "Downfall", and "Hell to Pay" by Giangreco.
Frank is now doing a trilogy on the lesser known aspects of Japan's war in east Asia (which would be most of them). His first volume, Tower of Skulls, focuses on China, up to Pearl Harbor. In the following books I imagine he'll document the cost of Japanese occupation and conquest in the vast areas of east Asia and the Pacific involved. Every day the war continued meant adding to the "tower of skulls" Imperial Japan was building in places from Burma to Indonesia to Vietnam to Malaysia, whether through direct action or the privation that resulted. Posted by: rhomboid at October 21, 2022 01:04 AM (OTzUX) The Japs were real bastards, still hated to this day by many citizens of the nearby (and not so nearby) nations. My ex-SIL is Korean, and at an airport in Japan, had a guy come up to here taking in Japanese. Her response? "I'm NOT a fucking Japanese!" Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:07 AM (ynpvh) 682
Sucking on chili dogs? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:03 AM (ynpvh)
I wasn't going to pop into the thread earlier when it was being discussed, but about a month ago I heard someone singing the song with only those words and it was hilarious. Sucking on a chili dog, sucking on a chili do-og Sucking on a chili dog, sucking on a chili dog Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 01:07 AM (7B5FA) 683
682 Sucking on chili dogs? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:03 AM (ynpvh)
I wasn't going to pop into the thread earlier when it was being discussed, but about a month ago I heard someone singing the song with only those words and it was hilarious. Sucking on a chili dog, sucking on a chili do-og Sucking on a chili dog, sucking on a chili dog Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 01:07 AM (7B5FA) LOL, I saw that on Youtube... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:07 AM (ynpvh) 684
Merging two streams here (pranks and annoying songs), but for fun sometimes as a prank, I had a TouchTunes app that allowed me to play songs on digital jukeboxes for bars in my area.
I would sometimes on Friday night spend a couple of bucks and play Toby Keith's Red Solo Cup about 5 or 6 times consecutively at a neighboring bar. They finally disabled the feature after a few months. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 21, 2022 01:09 AM (xLqhd) 685
The Japs were real bastards, still hated to this day by many citizens of the nearby (and not so nearby) nations. My ex-SIL is Korean, and at an airport in Japan, had a guy come up to here taking in Japanese. Her response? "I'm NOT a fucking Japanese!" Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:07 AM (ynpvh)
Told this story a couple of days ago, but it's worth repeating. In Korea I once saw a tour bus full of Japanese. When the Japanese got out they were ordering the Koreans around like they still owned the place. What was odd about the situation was that the Koreans were scurrying around steppin' and fetchin' like the Japanese did too. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 01:09 AM (7B5FA) 686
Japanese, Korean, Chinese, all hate each other with a passion
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 21, 2022 01:11 AM (WF/xn) 687
Every day the war continued meant adding to the "tower of skulls" Imperial Japan was building in places from Burma to Indonesia to Vietnam to Malaysia, whether through direct action or the privation that resulted. Posted by: rhomboid at October 21, 2022 01:04 AM (OTzUX)
When I was in Korea in the 1980s, there was a national commitment to plant trees on Arbor Day because when the Japanese owned the place they had clearcut the forests to burn them for charcoal to send back home for heating and cooking. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 01:12 AM (7B5FA) 688
Most Annoying Pop Songs Ever Made?
Had to hit the laundry today. Usually they have some Christian channel playing audio on the TV, sometimes they have old Westerns, but today they had Pandora? category Lite Pop Hits. O Lord, please bring back the Christian music channel!?! I had never before listened to the lyrics of "Do you like Pina Coladas…" - the pain! the pain! - Posted by: mindful webworker - YouTube honored me - I am among the cancelled! at October 21, 2022 01:13 AM (Ewmxj) 689
Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
November 10 is coming up. A morning show in Houston used to play the song once a year. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 01:03 AM (7B5FA) They would have made whitefish bay, if they would have put 15 miles behind her Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 21, 2022 01:14 AM (WF/xn) 690
I had never before listened to the lyrics of "Do you like Pina Coladas…" - the pain! the pain! Posted by: mindful webworker - YouTube honored me - I am among the cancelled! at October 21, 2022 01:13 AM (Ewmxj)
Thanks for that. It'll be stuck in my head for a week. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 01:15 AM (7B5FA) 691
688 Most Annoying Pop Songs Ever Made?
Had to hit the laundry today. Usually they have some Christian channel playing audio on the TV, sometimes they have old Westerns, but today they had Pandora? category Lite Pop Hits. O Lord, please bring back the Christian music channel!?! I had never before listened to the lyrics of "Do you like Pina Coladas…" - the pain! the pain! - Posted by: mindful webworker - YouTube honored me - I am among the cancelled! at October 21, 2022 01:13 AM (Ewmxj) Yeah, when I told my wife that the gal had written the ad and he had answered the ad and they laughed about it in the end, she was, WTF? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:15 AM (ynpvh) 692
689 Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
November 10 is coming up. A morning show in Houston used to play the song once a year. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 01:03 AM (7B5FA) They would have made whitefish bay, if they would have put 15 miles behind her Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 21, 2022 01:14 AM (WF/xn) I was driving on Ventura Highway once when America's song "Ventura Highway" came on. Seemed fitting. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:16 AM (ynpvh) 693
Pranks? Soap a toothbrush
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 21, 2022 01:16 AM (WF/xn) 694
Thanks for that. It'll be stuck in my head for a week.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 01:15 AM (7B5FA) "I get knocked down, but I get up again, you ain't never gonna keep me down." Hope this helps. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 21, 2022 01:17 AM (xLqhd) 695
I was driving on Ventura Highway once when America's song "Ventura Highway" came on. Seemed fitting. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:16 AM (ynpvh) Happens to me about once a week, still like it ! Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 21, 2022 01:17 AM (WF/xn) 696
690 I had never before listened to the lyrics of "Do you like Pina Coladas…" - the pain! the pain! Posted by: mindful webworker - YouTube honored me - I am among the cancelled! at October 21, 2022 01:13 AM (Ewmxj)
Thanks for that. It'll be stuck in my head for a week. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2022 01:15 AM (7B5FA) Eh, I purposefully munge lyrics, and it annoys my wife some times. She likes the song "Torn between two Lovers", but I sing it: Torn Between two Lovers, STD's in bloom, Loving both of you Sends me to the clinic soon... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:17 AM (ynpvh) 697
Most annoying pop song ever, Tainted Love
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 21, 2022 01:19 AM (WF/xn) 698
697 Most annoying pop song ever, Tainted Love
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 21, 2022 01:19 AM (WF/xn) Well, it's about taint, no? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:19 AM (ynpvh) 699
Chumbawumba
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 21, 2022 01:19 AM (WF/xn) Posted by: Zettai at October 21, 2022 01:20 AM (aQ52+) Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:21 AM (ynpvh) 702
Over 700?! What in the world happened tonight while I was asleep?
Posted by: t-bird at October 21, 2022 01:29 AM (dNNCD) 703
Remember one from high school...don't know who did it.
In Bio class we had a skeleton. The day after we dissected crayfish, there was on in the skeleton's jaw. A week or two later, the large eraser disapperared from the chalk board. Someone opened up the locker with the skeleton, and low and behold, someone had inserted the eraser into the pelvis and had the skeleton grabbing it. The teacher was NOT amused. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:33 AM (ynpvh) 704
I was driving on Ventura Highway once when America's song "Ventura Highway" came on. Seemed fitting.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:16 AM (ynpvh) Happens to me about once a week, still like it ! Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 21, 2022 01:17 AM (WF/xn) Was pulling into my home town to attend a friends wedding... had not been back for over two years... on the Radio? 'Boys are Back in Town'. Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2022 01:35 AM (oHd/0) 705
Most annoying pop song ever? I'm gonna go with.... all of them.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 21, 2022 01:39 AM (Zu/4v) 706
Went out to the pub for a beer tonight while keeping track of the ONT. It's karaoke night, and someone sang "What's Up" (TBF, rather well). After last call, I went up to Walt, the DJ, and asked him: "Do you know what an M109 Paladin is?" He said no. "Well, it's a self-propelled artillery piece, built on the Abrams chassis, with a 155mm gun. If you ever allow anyone to sing that song here again, I'm going to go to Ft. Hood, steal one, and shell you from 10 miles away"
Do you think I overreacted? Posted by: Weirddave at October 21, 2022 01:42 AM (G4IL7) 707
706 Went out to the pub for a beer tonight while keeping track of the ONT. It's karaoke night, and someone sang "What's Up" (TBF, rather well). After last call, I went up to Walt, the DJ, and asked him: "Do you know what an M109 Paladin is?" He said no. "Well, it's a self-propelled artillery piece, built on the Abrams chassis, with a 155mm gun. If you ever allow anyone to sing that song here again, I'm going to go to Ft. Hood, steal one, and shell you from 10 miles away"
Do you think I overreacted? Posted by: Weirddave at October 21, 2022 01:42 AM (G4IL7) maybe. Depends on how badly you hate the song. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:45 AM (ynpvh) 708
Cleverest prank I've ever heard. This was pulled by some of my father's buddies back in the day on this guy who bought a new car and was bragging about how good the gas mileage was going to be. Well, they snuck over to his house late at night with some gas cans and would top off his gas tank. They did this for several weeks. And he was just bragging about how good the gas mileage was. He couldn't believe it, he hadn't put any gas in that car, and the gas gauge hasn't moved! And then, they stopped. The gas gauge started moving. He thought something was wrong, and took that car back the dealer and demanded they find out what was wrong. They never did tell him, I don't think. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 21, 2022 01:48 AM (Mzdiz) 709
Now that I think of it, I did one to my Mom as an adult...
She came to my house one day and saw a small picture that came from one of those photo machines that blend two peoples faces to create what their child would look like. The kid was about 7 or 8 in the picture. So she looks at the pic and says, "He looks like he could be your son". I say, "well ,that's because he is". She almost had a heart attack, as I had only been married for less than a year... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 01:50 AM (ynpvh) 710
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 21, 2022 01:48 AM (Mzdiz)
Now a days... that would be an expensive joke! Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2022 01:51 AM (oHd/0) 711
"Feelings" by Morris Albert. The Worst. This was decided on the blog at least 10 years ago. There's a reason we remember the past. Posted by: Arbalest at October 21, 2022 01:53 AM (FlRtG) 712
Publius, I've been meaning to try and catch you to ask
You had (still have?) a newsletter on flu stuff? Subscribing info, please? Your & Miley's canning efforts are inspiring. Or depressing by comparison. No, inspiring. Next year… BTW, it was a long, hard battle, but I learned to like Okra. Was fun to see Miley's indoctrination into such things. OMG, lookit the time. 🕐 Dog will insist on a walk in just a bit more than six hours from now. I must snooze. Any replies (haha sure), I'll review the thread in the A.M. Maybe. Posted by: mindful webworker - YouTube considers me a Deplorable at October 21, 2022 01:54 AM (Ewmxj) 713
Do you think I overreacted?
Posted by: Weirddave at October 21, 2022 01:42 AM (G4IL7) ..... Right there on my most hated karaoke chick songs, along with Bobby McGee and Mercedes Benz (Janis Joplin) and Bitch (Meredith Brooks). Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 21, 2022 01:56 AM (xLqhd) 714
"Feelings"...
Posted by: Arbalest Yeah, that was on the forced-upon-us Lite Pop Hits playlist tonight. Posted by: mindful webworker - YouTube owes me an apology at October 21, 2022 01:57 AM (Ewmxj) 715
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"Feelings" by Morris Albert. The Worst. This was decided on the blog at least 10 years ago. There's a reason we remember the past. Posted by: Arbalest at October 21, 2022 01:53 AM (FlRtG) The music and song were stolen. Original was from 1956 in French. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXZrQhuC6Gs Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 02:01 AM (ynpvh) 716
Another prank I have enjoyed over the years is I have a buddy who hates with extreme prejudice the Animals - House of the Rising Sun. So I play it for him whenever he's around and he actually becomes homicidal.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 21, 2022 02:03 AM (z+OQR) 717
>> Subscribing info, please?
Just get me your email address. I'm still going with it, although not updating as much as in the early days. The truth is coming out, going mainstream even now. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 21, 2022 02:03 AM (Mzdiz) 718
I know someone that tied in a certain Christmas song into another co-worker's phone system, so that the music only came out on the receiver (folks on the line couldn't hear). It frustrated the co-worker who went to IT, and they immediately figured it out. Told the prankster co-worker the keep them in the loop next time.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 02:05 AM (ynpvh) Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 21, 2022 02:07 AM (Mzdiz) 720
719 >> but I learned to like Okra.
Fried? Tell me more. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 21, 2022 02:07 AM (Mzdiz) Mmmm. Fried Okra. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 02:08 AM (ynpvh) 721
Another funny one. Steve Kirsch has rented a billboard right next to the CDC HQ in Atlanta, and will be running, "The death safety signal in VAERS has been triggered long ago. Why are you ignoring it?" https://tinyurl.com/28zasq57 Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 21, 2022 02:10 AM (Mzdiz) Posted by: m at October 21, 2022 02:25 AM (8rTNG) 723
722 700 700!
Posted by: Zettai at October 21, 2022 01:20 AM (aQ52+) Nice. Posted by: m at October 21, 2022 02:25 AM (8rTNG) Did you see 666 yet? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 02:26 AM (ynpvh) 724
I second this as a worst song candidate:
240 I am strong (Strong!) I am invincible (vincible!) I am cri-inge! Posted by: Helen Reddy at October 20, 2022 10:55 PM (lzd36) Posted by: m at October 21, 2022 02:29 AM (8rTNG) 725
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Who kidnapped Sarah!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 02:32 AM (ynpvh) 727
I once pranked my wife with what she thought was a avocado...
Posted by: Beta O'Rourke at October 21, 2022 02:33 AM (ynpvh) 728
723 Did you see 666 yet?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 02:26 AM (ynpvh) Ha! Posted by: m at October 21, 2022 02:36 AM (8rTNG) 729
Another thing to keep in mind about the A-bombs is that the war was still very much going on in other parts of Asia: Korea, China, Vietnam, Phillippines, Indonesia, Burma, Cambodia, etc. A few years back, a couple of historians estimated that 100,000 civilians were dying each month in those areas by that stage of the war, most of whom were either our allies or colonized by our allies. We owed it to them to bring the war to a swift conclusion, too.
Posted by: JoeSmith7400 at October 21, 2022 02:38 AM (YlQsV) 730
...and I'm off to bed now. Night all (who are left)
Posted by: Beta O'Rourke at October 21, 2022 02:42 AM (ynpvh) 731
But first, off, damned Beta sock!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2022 02:42 AM (ynpvh) 732
Sooper high levels of early voting in PA..F these 'new' forms of voting..all fraud, all the time
Posted by: a dude in MI at October 21, 2022 02:50 AM (+I6Y/) 733
Radar Love. Comes on and the next thing you know, you're doing 90. Posted by: Some Rat at October 20, 2022 10:57 Truth But also get there sooner. Especially on those long drives. Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 21, 2022 02:57 AM (nmzx8) 734
Posted by: JoeSmith7400 at October 21, 2022 02:38 AM (YlQsV)
Thank you for that. Never really thought about the slaves within the Japanese Empire at the time. I've had a few 'conversations' with people who think we were war criminals for dropping the bombs, with them saying the war was over anyway. You comment is a great counterpoint to that inane 'belief'. I always mentioned how many Americans/Japanese were estimated to be killed/casualties of an invasion of Japan versus the number killed by the atomic bombs. Plus, I've used the fire bombings of Tokyo's numbers to show the Japanese were not nearly ready to give up, even with all the death and destruction the 20th USAAF brought to Japan. I never really considered the other far-flung populations under the Japanese boot. Posted by: RickZ at October 21, 2022 03:09 AM (emlEe) 735
Well, I guess I killed the blog by checking in.
Posted by: Infidel at October 21, 2022 03:50 AM (Ur3ox) 736
Don't want to get up, going to be a long day
Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2022 03:51 AM (xhxe8) 737
Start it off with a good breakfast, Skip.
Posted by: m at October 21, 2022 03:55 AM (rnYgr) 738
Pixy's up!
Posted by: m at October 21, 2022 04:01 AM (rnYgr) 739
PIXY NOOD
Posted by: Skip nood advisor at October 21, 2022 04:02 AM (xhxe8) 740
Most annoying pop song ever? Easy. Imagine by Lennon.
Posted by: Hammer Dog at October 21, 2022 06:50 AM (7Ayyg) 741
At one job in Philly, I would bring in donuts on Friday. Woo-hoo made it thru another week! The leftovers I would put in the refrigerator in the copier room. Low budget trailers we were in, no break room. We were on heavy overtime, so a lot of us came in early on Saturdays to get our 8 hours in. I grab my cup of coffee and go to grab a doughnut, open the box in the refrigerator, and it's empty. I toss it in the trash. This goes on for a couple of weeks. Always an empty box still in the fridge. Usually there would be 5-6 put away on Friday at the end of the day. I would also bring in Chips and Salsa. I get my cubical mate Dave to help me slice open a jelly doughnut, scrape out the jelly and fill it with Herdez Hot Salsa (good stuff). Dave is a 6 foot 2 Alabama-boy. He is giggling like a 12 year old girl. Saturday morning rolls in and Dave is confronted in the hallway by a sleazy job-shopper named Ron. Who says "Ha ha very funny" and storms off. In the trash Dave finds the empty box and the jelly doughnut with a huge bite taken out of it. Word spread and everyone got a kick out of it. I had no issue that the doughnuts were gone, but why put the empty box in the fridge?
Posted by: Paladin at October 21, 2022 06:52 AM (yRmiT) 742
In the early 90's, after a long night on the tank range in Ft. Drum, we cleaned up the tracks at the motor pool and awaited turn-in. Our TC, J, a very large specimen, fell asleep on top of the turret. Many, many seagulls in Ft. Drum, and they LOVED our scraps. J was a heavy sleeper, so we tied an arm and leg to the turret and planted food on him and awaited the swarms descent and ensuing hilarity. They were landing all around him just as the CO, BC and Gen. H. Norman Schwarzkopf walked up. We were a bit...anxious...to say the least. He was a hell of a man. He made small talk and didn't mention the shenanigans at all. The CO and BC were burning holes in all of us. As they walked away and our anxiety started to wane, the General turned and said "By the way, I'd hate to be you men when that bear up on the turret wakes up!"
Posted by: Philistine at October 21, 2022 09:11 AM (HzFz9) 743
The Left loathes the past.
They know they will never be able to match or exceed the accomplishments of their forbearers. Posted by: aelfheld at October 21, 2022 09:39 AM (Zy9Yy) 744
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