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Boston University Uses Gain-of-Function Genetic Manipulation to Create Deadly Variant of Covid with 80% Lethality Rate
Deb Heine:Boston University scientists have reportedly created a lethal new COVID strain by combining Omicron and the original Wuhan strain in a laboratory. According to the DailyMail.com, the hybrid virus managed to kill 80 percent of mice in a gain-of-function research study that critics say shouldn't have been allowed. The research has not been peer-reviewed, the Mail reported. Professor Shmuel Shapira, a leading scientist in the Israeli Government, told the Mail: "This should be totally forbidden, it's playing with fire." Gain-of-function is highly controversial research that involves making pathogens and viruses more lethal and virulent in a laboratory. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) director Anthony Fauci provided grants to the U.S.-based research organization EcoHealth Alliance to fund gain-of-function research at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology from 2014 to 2019. It is widely believed that this research is the origin of the COVID pandemic. Dr. Richard Ebright, a chemist at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, told DailyMail.com that: "The [Boston U] research is a clear example of gain of function research." He added: "If we are to avoid a next lab-generated pandemic, it is imperative that oversight of enhanced potential pandemic pathogen research be strengthened."
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 18, 2022 12:12 PM (SRAJ/)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 18, 2022 12:12 PM (CwQXo)
Posted by: tsj017 at October 18, 2022 12:12 PM (YcOm1)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 18, 2022 12:12 PM (SRAJ/)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 18, 2022 12:13 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 18, 2022 12:13 PM (zCJJe)
How about stopped? I am good with stopped.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 18, 2022 12:13 PM (CwQXo)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 18, 2022 12:13 PM (SRAJ/)
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 18, 2022 12:13 PM (hXXru)
That's right at the level of creating weaponized plutonium in bulk.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 18, 2022 12:14 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 18, 2022 12:14 PM (TN90X)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 18, 2022 12:14 PM (BFigT)
I know it will be some variation on "we have to do this to make sure we can more effectively fight future pandemics".
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:14 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (Lk0sn)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (906pl)
Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (tDAwn)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (L08P2)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (ppBhU)
It might be time to quote Cannibal Corpse lyrics.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (w0NJk)
Probably, but it's my guess that she still wins based on cup size.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (zCJJe)
Posted by: Chuck C at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (xttsV)
Posted by: Eeyore at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (TgBWG)
Posted by: Bill Gates at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (uG0tx)
Posted by: t-bird at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (amJF4)
China never has paid a price for any of this.
I really do think the world rallied around China because they didn't want to give any "aid" to Trump on this point.
Posted by: Blago at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (PwNLq)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (UjXdZ)
Posted by: Another Anon at October 18, 2022 12:17 PM (YkdcI)
Posted by: Eeyore at October 18, 2022 12:17 PM (TgBWG)
Posted by: Rbastid at October 18, 2022 12:17 PM (DzX3N)
Posted by: Anacleto Mitraglia at October 18, 2022 12:17 PM (tJC0X)
Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (AwYPR)
The Stand, maybe. Andromeda Strain, didn't just that one town get nuked?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 18, 2022 12:17 PM (CwQXo)
I know it will be some variation on "we have to do this to make sure we can more effectively fight future pandemics".
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:14 PM (eOEVl)
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"We didn't know it was going to be THAT bad!"
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 18, 2022 12:18 PM (cMXNt)
Posted by: Stu Podaso at October 18, 2022 12:18 PM (uG0tx)
Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 18, 2022 12:18 PM (bNf8H)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 18, 2022 12:17 PM
Boston can't be that great. Go ahead.
Posted by: huerfano, stochastic commenter at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (dTFZY)
Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (AwYPR)
The Stand was good until they get to the town. Then it got weird.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (CwQXo)
Posted by: Mitch The Bitch at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (VaSD4)
Nah, they've paid a big price. Their economy is in the tank right now because of all the lockdowns, and most of the international players are leaving for more responsible climes.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 18, 2022 12:17 PM (CwQXo)
End of Andromeda...the bug was out...and mutating.
Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (AwYPR)
These people need to be lamppost decorations. All of them. Every single one.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (u4CEu)
Accidents are bound to happen.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (7eZvF)
NIH: fuck you. We will fund it through a shell organization in China.
Us: No. absolutely not. Stop it.
NIH: Fuck you. How about we keep funding ecohealth AND fund research at BU.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (7vnj6)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (eOEVl)
interestingly, he seems to concede that the last one was lab-generated.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (Y2VIG)
Strzok: "What concerns me" is that their might be FBI agents whose political opinions lead them to think 1/6 was just "a riot that got out of control"
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (7vnj6)
Sorry. Still prone to reacting to events from an outmoded legacy perspective. Common sense, rule of law, responsibility, and some trace of insitutions that weren't garbage. Will try to be better!
Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (Qy7kP)
hey, I know, let's put the labs in China and Ukraine ... that way lab leaks will not reach our shores!
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Skip's phone at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (1YXG1)
That is another question. Why do we fund research labs in other countries especially ones that are antagonistic?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Pfizer's CEO at October 18, 2022 12:21 PM (gf7Ez)
Posted by: Pontifex Maximus at October 18, 2022 12:21 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (7vnj6)
It was not even a riot that got out of control.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 18, 2022 12:21 PM (CwQXo)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 18, 2022 12:21 PM (BFigT)
Hanging's too good for them.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 18, 2022 12:21 PM (pNxlR)
That is another question. Why do we fund research labs in other countries especially ones that are antagonistic?
And they would know that. I'm sure they have some explanation which (in their minds) justifies what they've done.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:21 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (AwYPR)
The Stand was good until they get to the town. Then it got weird.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (CwQXo)
The Stand is like two separate books. The apocalypse book is the better of the two. The second half doesn't live up to the first half...but it's the most pro-Christian book Stephen King ever wrote.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 18, 2022 12:21 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Frisch Storage emporium at October 18, 2022 12:21 PM (JTRqZ)
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 12:21 PM (krQz2)
Our "betters" are supposed to be smarter than I am. I mean, even I can see this has the potential to be Wuhan 2.0.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (AwYPR)
The Stand was good until they get to the town. Then it got weird.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (CwQXo)
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As long as there's a Laura San Giacomo type with huuuuuuuge tracts of land I won't complain.
Posted by: Augustine at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (BDZWU)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (Y2VIG)
Hanging's too good for them.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 18, 2022 12:21 PM (pNxlR)
They should be torn into itty pieces and buried alive?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 18, 2022 12:12 PM (CwQXo)
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"You can't make a trans-human Marxist utopian omelet without breaking an estimated 6.5 billion eggs, comrade!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War AND Hurricane Vaccines at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (K3TEc)
Posted by: DaveA at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (FhXTo)
It's Boston. Red Sox. Scrod. Weird accent.
'Nuff said.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Dr. Charles Emerson Winchester III
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (VaSD4)
Posted by: Darth Randall at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (p7HlW)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (ezeQL)
yeah that's what you get from "made in China"
so this time they're in-sourcing
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 12:23 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 18, 2022 12:23 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Another Anon at October 18, 2022
***
Yeah, I want to vitrify these people, all right.
Posted by: Pontifex Maximus at October 18, 2022 12:23 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (Y+l9t)
Kickbacks and funding.
No bucks, no Buck Henry.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 18, 2022 12:24 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: SomeRando at October 18, 2022 12:24 PM (1XrKe)
-- Some scientist, probably
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at October 18, 2022 12:24 PM (ezeQL)
Posted by: Blago at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (PwNLq)
Or they knew that the funding and direction came from the US.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 18, 2022 12:24 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Another Anon at October 18, 2022
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Yeah, I want to vitrify these people, all right.
Posted by: Pontifex Maximus at October 18, 2022 12:23 PM (J2vNu)
Veni, Vidi, Vitri
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 18, 2022 12:24 PM (906pl)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 18, 2022 12:24 PM (fs1hN)
Imprison.
Also imprison every Federal bureaucrat who signed off on the grant application.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 18, 2022 12:24 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: t-bird at October 18, 2022 12:24 PM (amJF4)
Posted by: Wally at October 18, 2022 12:25 PM (GHXTu)
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:25 PM (dSg0o)
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 12:25 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 18, 2022 12:26 PM (mE7cY)
Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 18, 2022 12:18 PM (bNf8H)
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In many ways, Boston is a shithole country.
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War AND Hurricane Vaccines at October 18, 2022 12:26 PM (K3TEc)
oh agree
get ready for the paperwork-"Americans" brigade
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 12:26 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: huerfano, stochastic commenter at October 18, 2022 12:26 PM (dTFZY)
'Nuff said.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
*
Dr. Charles Emerson Winchester III
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 18, 2022
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Spenser, Susan, and Hawk. Patrick Kenzie and Angie Gennaro. Thomas Banacek.
Or, as Dennis Lehane had Patrick put it: "Boston. We're small, we're cold, we'll kill for a parking space. Come up and bring the kids."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 18, 2022 12:26 PM (J2vNu)
We've spared no expense.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 18, 2022 12:26 PM (44ww/)
We made up some stuff to kill 80% of the world's population.
That's nice.
Here dad, try some.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 18, 2022 12:26 PM (+cejL)
Posted by: redridinghood at October 18, 2022 12:26 PM (NpAcC)
But FUCK scientists at Boston U. With a chainsaw.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 18, 2022 12:27 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Darth Randall at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (p7HlW)
I read that as “crimes against Hannity” and was very confused.
Posted by: Joey Hairsniffer at October 18, 2022 12:27 PM (3cXfB)
Why?
That's The Question.
WHY?
Answer: Population Control
They figured out how to kill and Control and Silence the Population via viral outbreaks.
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:27 PM (dSg0o)
honestly! our major cities are barely really American any longer
I keep going back to my "cities of a certain size become independent areas not part of the Union" with different rules as city-states
they're destroying the actual states! and the union!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 12:27 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:25 PM (dSg0o)
Already printing the mail in ballots.
Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2022 12:27 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 18, 2022 12:28 PM (z+OQR)
The only crime against Hannity is finishing your sentence before he cuts you off and talks for three minutes straight
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at October 18, 2022 12:28 PM (ezeQL)
We paid for it. We directed it. We covered up the source of the pandemic for them. We denied people reasonable access to potentially effective therapeutics, while we killed countless with bad policies and forced an experimental "vaccine" on people for financial gain of a few, and while we still officially deny any connection to the sudden suddenitis with which all the young healthy guinea pigs are dropping dead.
Why would anyone expect China solely or partially to pay a price for something we (our government) did to ourselves?
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 12:28 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 18, 2022 12:28 PM (eGTCV)
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Then, establish who sponsored and supported it, round them all up and Hang Them in The Public Square.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 18, 2022 12:29 PM (+cejL)
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 12:29 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at October 18, 2022 12:29 PM (nC+QA)
Posted by: brak at October 18, 2022 12:30 PM (3wL5e)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2022 12:30 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (Cus5s)
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Fight bugs over there so we don't have to fight them here.
Posted by: George W. Bush, Probably at October 18, 2022 12:30 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 18, 2022 12:28 PM (eGTCV)
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NOOOOOO!
Posted by: Dr. Frederick Frankenstein at October 18, 2022 12:30 PM (BDZWU)
That's The Question.
WHY?
Answer: Population Control
The Georgia Guidestones said the correct human population of Earth was around 500 million. Covid didn’t work well enough to get there.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 18, 2022 12:31 PM (3cXfB)
Posted by: Eric at October 18, 2022 12:31 PM (EWlkm)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 18, 2022 12:31 PM (xeiug)
I truly admire this level of audacity - no joke.
These people in the CDC, EcoHealth Alliance, etc. got straight-up busted for fencing taxpayer cash to third-world shithole laboratories in countries that are enemies of the United States, so they could do GoF research forbidden by our own government.
None of them got in any trouble, and now government-funded research labs right here in the US are turning it up to 11, and weaponizing the shit right in the middle of Boston, FFS.
Wow.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 18, 2022 12:31 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 18, 2022 12:32 PM (5HBd1)
tl;dr: It was not as insane as it looks (but it was kinda dumb).
Posted by: MurphyzLaw at October 18, 2022 12:32 PM (eXzA1)
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 12:32 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at October 18, 2022 12:28 PM (ezeQL)
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Sean doesn't mind you trying to finish your sentences.
Posted by: George W. Bush, Probably at October 18, 2022 12:32 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 12:28 PM (yHsuS)
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Slight disagreement. You stated, "we (our government) as if we were part of our government. That's the way it's written but The Government no longer is part of us.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 18, 2022 12:32 PM (+cejL)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 18, 2022 12:32 PM (7eZvF)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 18, 2022 12:32 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: IanDeal at October 18, 2022 12:32 PM (MGjjz)
Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 18, 2022 12:32 PM (7NKxb)
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They're gonna have to test it on humans at some point just to make sure ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War AND Hurricane Vaccines at October 18, 2022 12:33 PM (K3TEc)
Boston Strong!
Boston with 80% of population dead: Boston Even Stronger!
/ It's funny how something Obama made illegal is still legal, is it not? Like insider Congressional trading. Resurrected!
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 18, 2022 12:33 PM (y3pKJ)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)
Because they're communist animals that don't value human life at all?
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 18, 2022 12:33 PM (xeiug)
do they do this on a separate campus far away from major population centers? or right there on the street where BU is?
because all I'm seeing here is a college that needs to shut down such research RIGHT NOW and if they want to continue it, do it on an island far off the coast.
also they are level 3 not 4
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 12:33 PM (w0NJk)
___________
We won't use this research for bioweapons, we did it just to show we can!
-BU Scientists
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 18, 2022 12:33 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix
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Hannity needs a minder with a twitch.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 18, 2022 12:33 PM (+cejL)
Posted by: t-bird at October 18, 2022 12:33 PM (hPvGe)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: torabora at October 18, 2022 12:34 PM (JH1tc)
I blame them for spreading it out, but not for making it
we made it
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 12:34 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 18, 2022 12:34 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:27 PM (dSg0o)
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And Ah Hay-elped!
Posted by: Bill Gates Dressed As the Shake And Bake Girl at October 18, 2022 12:34 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 18, 2022 12:34 PM (z+OQR)
Nonetheless, I don't trust these clowns with GAF research now, even if I think such research should be done albeit in very limited, very controlled ie in the US conditions.
Posted by: Thrawn at October 18, 2022 12:35 PM (Rl7KJ)
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 12:32 PM (Cus5s)
That's comforting.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 12:35 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: Boston U at October 18, 2022 12:35 PM (amJF4)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 18, 2022 12:35 PM (w9aVB)
A Breath of Frisch Air - a limerick
If you ain't tried it, don't impugn it
All the Coolest Kids are doin' it
Drop yer skivvies, get unpeeled
There on Grandma's Chesterfield
It's sex in a rental storage unit
Posted by: Muldoon at October 18, 2022 12:35 PM (kXYt5)
tl;dr: It was not as insane as it looks (but it was kinda dumb).
Good points. However, if you're doing research like that, why not do it in a more isolated location, say Ft. Dietrich, or even Dugway. Doing it in the middle of an major urban area is just nuts.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:36 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (zCJJe)
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Probably but these are the same class of people who think Orwell's 1984 is a How-To manual.
Posted by: Ciampino --- Here squirrel at October 18, 2022 12:36 PM (qfLjt)
That they are willing to court obvious disaster mere months from a previous disaster shows a level of evil I really didn't think could exist in seemingly normal humans.
Hate it when I'm wrong.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 18, 2022 12:36 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (Cus5s)
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Fight bugs over there so we don't have to fight them here.
Posted by: George W. Bush, Probably at October 18, 2022 12:30 PM (krQz2)
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"NO BUGS FOR OIL!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War AND Hurricane Vaccines at October 18, 2022 12:36 PM (K3TEc)
Yeah, they don't explain it very well in the article. The just say Omicron didn't kill the mice, and this modified strain (Omicron spike protein grafted onto the original strain) did, but don't say how mice fared against the unmodified original strain.
Situation normal, piss-poor reporting.
Posted by: spindrift at October 18, 2022 12:37 PM (h5TKJ)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 18, 2022 12:32 PM (+cejL)
Acceptable.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 12:37 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: torabora at October 18, 2022 12:37 PM (JH1tc)
Ban it. Destroy the labs. Burn the samples. Prosecute the scientists for Crimes Against Humanity.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 18, 2022 12:37 PM (kXYt5)
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Sounds ideal to me. This will have no negative consequences and is very useful and not all an affront against both G-d and man.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 18, 2022 12:37 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: NR Pax at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (4olE8)
This is outrageous.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (xeiug)
Probably, but it's my guess that she still wins based on cup size.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:16 PM (eOEVl)
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Two Congresswomen One Cup?
Posted by: Ciampino --- Here squirrel squirrel at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (qfLjt)
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And strictly illegal. Let's not forget that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (t0OGg)
Or they expect some grid down scenario, and need a way to kill off the masses, who will be trying to break into the elites' bunkers?
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (Cus5s)
These people in the CDC, EcoHealth Alliance, etc. got straight-up busted for fencing taxpayer cash to third-world shithole laboratories in countries that are enemies of the United States, so they could do GoF research forbidden by our own government.
None of them got in any trouble, and now government-funded research labs right here in the US are turning it up to 11, and weaponizing the shit right in the middle of Boston, FFS.
Wow.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 18, 2022 12:31 PM (oINRc)
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Mean tweets grabbed her by the pussy.
Don't forget it.
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Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (+cejL)
But....then nobody will know how smart we are.
Posted by: Super smart scientists at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (ytSiK)
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 12:32 PM (Cus5s)
That's comforting.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 12:35 PM (yHsuS)
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Yup. 80% more lethal would be a 0.85% lethality rate.
So, like 100 times less deadly than this one.
Posted by: Bill Gates Dressed As the Shake And Bake Girl at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (iFTx/)
Former top lawyers at the gun control advocacy organization Brady have formed a new gun policy venture. And they're registering as foreign agents of the Mexican government as part of it.
The new advocacy group, Global Action on Gun Violence which has not yet formally launched, intends to represent foreign governments or others rallying against the gun industry in lobbying and litigation. Lowy explained that the goal was to go beyond litigation, suggesting that the group would lobby around legislation and regulation of gun companies on behalf of foreign governments or people outside the U.S.
Earlier this month, Global Action on Gun Violence quietly filed paperwork with the DOJ under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, with Lowy and Elizabeth Burke, who was also an attorney at Brady, registering as agents of Mexico.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (MFZ8i)
You know who is an alum of Boston University?
Sandy Cortez.
You know who else?
Take a guess.
Hint: he's also a "latinx." And you're on his blog.
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:39 PM (dSg0o)
Posted by: Czech Chick at October 18, 2022 12:39 PM (haWye)
This is fake news. He NEVER STOPPED.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 12:39 PM (lf83v)
_____________
We got the government grant. *shrugs*
- BU Scientist
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 18, 2022 12:39 PM (fs1hN)
+++++
Fixed it for him.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 18, 2022 12:39 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: George W. Bush, Probably at October 18, 2022 12:30 PM (krQz2)
lol
Is this gonna be a stand-up fight, sir, or another bug hunt?
Posted by: PFC Hudson at October 18, 2022 12:39 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 18, 2022 12:39 PM (I/doM)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 18, 2022 12:28 PM (eGTCV)
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Sort of... Reading the paper in this case, it looks like they were trying to see how Omicron differs from the original Wuhan strain, specifically in the spike protein. So they weren't doing gain-of-function research in the sense of trying to make Covid more lethal, but rather trying to shuffle existing mutations back into the ancestral type to see how the virus changed in function over time (which is not illegal, or even necessarily unethical). The massively increased lethality seems to be entirely accidental and unanticipated (omicron is way less lethal than the Wuhan strain).
This is as much an optics issue as anything. BU's NIEID institute is one of the places that works on things like Ebola vaccines, so if anyone is qualified to work on this kind of question, it's this group. However, they should *not* have published this on bioarxiv.
Posted by: MurphyzLaw at October 18, 2022 12:40 PM (eXzA1)
Wow.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 18, 2022 12:31 PM (oINRc)
++++
Law? Law's for chumps.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 18, 2022 12:40 PM (t0OGg)
also they are level 3 not 4
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022
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How about they do it on an island off the *Indian* coast? Say, Christmas Island?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 18, 2022 12:40 PM (J2vNu)
Word.
Posted by: Aliens from War of the Worlds at October 18, 2022 12:40 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 18, 2022 12:40 PM (kXYt5)
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at October 18, 2022 12:41 PM (vCY06)
We had to create new bugs in order to save the means to kill new bugs.
-- another doltish GWB saying
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 18, 2022 12:41 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Jaimo at October 18, 2022 12:41 PM (DBrN4)
This work was supported by Boston University startup funds (to MS and FD), National Institutes of Health, NIAID grants R01 AI159945 (to SB and MS) and R37 AI087846 (to MUG), NIH SIG grants S10- OD026983 and SS10-OD030269 (to NAC), Peter Paul Career Development Award (to FD), and BMBF SenseCoV2 01KI20172A (AE) and DFG Fokus COVID-19, EN 423/7-1 (AE). We thank the Clinical & Translational Science Institute (CTSI; 1UL1TR001430) and Evans Center for Interdisciplinary Biomedical Research at Boston University School of Medicine for their support of the Affinity Research Collaborative on ‘Respiratory Viruses: A Focus on COVID-19’.
Posted by: Candidus at October 18, 2022 12:41 PM (469KY)
This is outrageous.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (lf83v)
It's really hard to get hookers and blow with all that sweet, sweet crude (aka tax dollars) granted by the government from an island in the middle of the ocean.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 12:41 PM (Zz0t1)
Take a guess.
Hint: he's also a "latinx." And you're on his blog.
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:39 PM (dSg0o)
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Hitler?!
Posted by: Bill Gates Dressed As the Shake And Bake Girl at October 18, 2022 12:41 PM (krQz2)
Wait. Has this been done already?
Posted by: Marcus T at October 18, 2022 12:41 PM (vBMpQ)
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Yup, they never even stopped accelerating the program, it seems. This is crazy to watch. One global disaster happened, and they just say "ok, at least that proves it'll work. On to Phase II."
Our ruling classes are completely decoupled from reality...
"War with Russia? Hell yeah! Weaponized COVID? Sure, whatever; YOLO, bruh!"
It's all pretty fuckin' surreal, at this point.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 18, 2022 12:42 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Augustine
Where's my love?
Posted by: Molly Ringwald at October 18, 2022 12:42 PM (vCY06)
This is outrageous.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (lf83v)
DHS? Those nutsacks would try to create super-coof and accidentally cure cancer instead.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 18, 2022 12:42 PM (6FeV1)
Comparing Muslims to HITLER’: Lefties are trying to get Muslim parents fired for speaking out against sexually explicit books in schools (thread)
https://tinyurl.com/3mrz5ajs
Posted by: redridinghood at October 18, 2022 12:42 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Buck Turgidson at October 18, 2022 12:42 PM (w9aVB)
Don't forget it.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 18, 2022 12:38 PM (+cejL)
Mean tweets grabbed a lot of people by the pussy. And still has not let go.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 12:42 PM (yHsuS)
Mouseville. It's a real place.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (qZdIZ)
Posted by: browndog on his cellphone at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (Z1c8s)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (vBMpQ)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (BdMk6)
These people in the CDC, EcoHealth Alliance, etc. got straight-up busted for fencing taxpayer cash to third-world shithole laboratories in countries that are enemies of the United States, so they could do GoF research forbidden by our own government.
None of them got in any trouble, and now government-funded research labs right here in the US are turning it up to 11, and weaponizing the shit right in the middle of Boston, FFS.
Wow.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 18, 2022 12:31 PM (oINRc)
My opinion, of course, but let's get this out of the way right now, so we don't get disappointed when it doesn't happen:
China's role in unleashing COVID-19 will never - never - be addressed. Why? Because they know (and we know) that the USA was just as involved in its creation as China was in the unleashing. As such, the USA is potentially on the hook for at least one trillion dollars - if not even more. Fauci, Biden, the CDC et al know this, and as such the truth will never, ever see the light of day. Ever.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: SMOD at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward
With President Mushbrain? Not likely.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (6P4hL)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 18, 2022 12:24 PM (fs1hN)
I believe that GoF cannot be FUNDED by the US government which is why Fauci funds research groups who fund it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 18, 2022 12:44 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Furious George at October 18, 2022 12:44 PM (CkFy6)
Posted by: redridinghood at October 18, 2022 12:42 PM (NpAcC)
Interesting marker. Everything Muslims have been up to up to this point is fine. Objecting to the left's child grooming is not.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 12:44 PM (yHsuS)
Mouseville. It's a real place.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (ZLI7S)
"Well, I was about seventeen and some mates and me went to a party, and, er... we had quite a lot to drink and then some of the fellows there... started handing... cheese around... and well just out of curiosity I tried a bit... and well that was that."
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 18, 2022 12:45 PM (906pl)
Having the zombie apocalypse roll thru MontCo on the way to DC is just a bonus.
Posted by: DaveA at October 18, 2022 12:45 PM (FhXTo)
Shitty weather all the way down I90
Gas and grub
Posted by: browndog on his cellphone
Is this a Country song?? I like it.
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:45 PM (dSg0o)
Posted by: Molly Ringwald at October 18, 2022 12:42 PM (vCY06)
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You went woke and now you go broke. Woooooo!
Posted by: Ric Flair at October 18, 2022 12:45 PM (BDZWU)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 18, 2022 12:45 PM (z+OQR)
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 12:45 PM (krQz2)
But, biowarfare agents blow the other two away. And that is what these fuckers are playing with.
Even being generous about some national defense need to study these bioagents, that shit should be classified more heavily than detailed blueprints for the latest thermonuclear warheads. Sigh. Experts.
Do you know that there are DIY gene splicing kits for sale right now. $130. You're welcome.
But what if that at-home science allows novices to dabble in some serious stuff, like splicing genes? One Bay Area scientist has done just that: He's marketing a $130 gene-editing kit that could bring the popular technology CRISPR into kitchens, basements and garages nationwide.
https://tinyurl.com/yc8fkvsj
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 18, 2022 12:45 PM (JOtiF)
We cannot have a gain of function gap!
Posted by: Buck Turgidson at October 18, 2022 12:42 PM
Sure we're gonna get our hair mussed a bit, maybe six billion dead if it breaks right.
Posted by: General Buck Turgidson at October 18, 2022 12:45 PM (y3pKJ)
Good points. However, if you're doing research like that, why not do it in a more isolated location, say Ft. Dietrich, or even Dugway. Doing it in the middle of an major urban area is just nuts.
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Oh yeah, the BSL-4 labs at Ft. Dietrich got shut down back in like 2018 by the CDC because they were being horribly mismanaged (Obama appointed director forced out everybody competent who knew what they were doing).
There aren't really any (publically aknowledged) BSL-4 labs in really remote areas at this point. Probably in part because of the reputation of places like the Soviet bioweapons lab Aralsk 7 on Vozrozhdeniya Island, which had a number of 'field tests' go awry with basically no oversight.
Posted by: MurphyzLaw at October 18, 2022 12:45 PM (eXzA1)
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:39 PM (dSg0o)
I thought Ed Driscoll was a white guy....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 18, 2022 12:45 PM (6FeV1)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
And fence them in.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at October 18, 2022 12:46 PM (vCY06)
Well, at least they all earned their Mengele Merit Badge!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 18, 2022 12:46 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: spindrift at October 18, 2022 12:46 PM (h5TKJ)
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 12:44 PM (yHsuS)
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Your idiots have to be useful.
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 12:46 PM (krQz2)
They seem to be rather tone deaf.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:46 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 12:46 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Ripley at October 18, 2022 12:46 PM (MxEKc)
Where the geodes are?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 18, 2022 12:47 PM (w9aVB)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (/iWhV)
Agreed @106.
Let's remember the rallying cry of the Benghazi hearings.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 12:47 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 18, 2022 12:47 PM (L08P2)
Posted by: torabora at October 18, 2022 12:47 PM (JH1tc)
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 18, 2022
***
Truman Capote?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 18, 2022 12:47 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:46 PM (eOEVl)
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We just fixed the glitch.
Posted by: Jim and Jim From Boston University at October 18, 2022 12:48 PM (krQz2)
A Breath of Frisch Air - a limerick
If you ain't tried it, don't impugn it
All the Coolest Kids are doin' it
Drop yer skivvies, get unpeeled
There on Grandma's Chesterfield
It's sex in a rental storage unit
Posted by: Muldoon at October 18, 2022 12:35 PM (kXYt5)
When my wife and I moved out of NYC almost 20 years ago, we had to get our stuff out of a storage unit in Brooklyn, to move it to our bigger place in Westchester (Yonkers, to be exact). As we were clearing out our stuff, a light went on in the storage unit 20 ft away from us. Then it went off. Then there was some moaning. Eventually, the light went back on. Turns out that a hooker rented out a unit for her 'business'. We ended up telling the receptionist as we were leaving, and they were shocked. They knew she visited her locker a lot, but couldn't definitively put it together until we told them.
Much hilarity ensued, I bet.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 18, 2022 12:48 PM (/iWhV)
Shitty weather all the way down I90
Gas and grub
Posted by: browndog on his cellphone
Columbus, Ohio? On I 90?....you lost?
Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2022 12:48 PM (AwYPR)
hmm ... since the new strains were less lethal, it did seem odd that combining those two would be so much more lethal. They'll just have to release it (as they did with the first one) to get data for humans ... It's SCIENCE!
Also, since we likely have herd immunity, people would likely be more resistant now, even to the original covid?
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 12:48 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 18, 2022 12:48 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 18, 2022 12:47 PM (L08P2)
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They can shove monkeypox up their asses!
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 12:49 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 18, 2022 12:49 PM (7eZvF)
Posted by: Paladin at October 18, 2022 12:49 PM (3YWub)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 18, 2022 12:49 PM (+cejL)
_________
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Mickey Mouse at October 18, 2022 12:49 PM (lf83v)
There aren't really any (publically aknowledged) BSL-4 labs in really remote areas at this point.
Yeah, I forgot that bit about FD, but I thought they'd been reopened. As to Dugway, if there isn't a BSL4 there, there should be. I suppose the problem is that if you want the best researchers, you have to put the lab in a place where they're willing to live. Dugway ain't it.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:49 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 18, 2022 12:50 PM (kX6Uw)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 18, 2022 12:48 PM (63Dwl)
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There must be *some* nursing home we can send them to!
Posted by: Governor Whitless at October 18, 2022 12:50 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 18, 2022 12:45 PM (JOtiF)
I was promised a flying car. And a pony.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 12:50 PM (yHsuS)
100% agreed. As usual, I blasted off a comment before doing the ol'Ctrl-F. Thanks!
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 18, 2022 12:50 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: Zed's Gimp before Butch got him at October 18, 2022 12:50 PM (w9aVB)
also they are level 3 not 4
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022
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How about they do it on an island off the *Indian* coast? Say, Christmas Island?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 18, 2022
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I take that back. How about the Kerguelen Islands?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 18, 2022 12:50 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
And fence them in.
******
The virus goes right through a fence. Poo Tin might nuke those Ukrainian 'laboratories' to stop the virus mfg.
Posted by: torabora at October 18, 2022 12:51 PM (JH1tc)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:49 PM (eOEVl)
Then again, the very best researchers are the ones who are willing to live anywhere so long as they can get into the lab.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 18, 2022 12:51 PM (6FeV1)
Posted by: wth at October 18, 2022 12:51 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 18, 2022 12:51 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 18, 2022 12:51 PM (nC+QA)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 18, 2022 12:43 PM (/iWhV)
This needs to be repeated!
Posted by: rd at October 18, 2022 12:51 PM (Z32m1)
Arguing that's it's not Gain of Function is like saying, "Just because I happened to walk into the bank with a shotgun doesn't mean I was robbing the place."
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 18, 2022 12:51 PM (y3pKJ)
They seem to be rather tone deaf.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:46 PM (eOEVl)
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Exactly. On the one hand, publishing this is like white-hat hackers who publish security vulnerabilities to that everyone can take precautions. On the other, Bioarxiv is not the place for this.
They should have published it coordinated with a press release using BU's PR team where they emphasize that this was an accidental discovery, made in one of the safest buildings in the world for this kind of work.
Dumping it on bioarxiv was fucking stupid.
Posted by: MurphyzLaw at October 18, 2022 12:51 PM (eXzA1)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
And fence them in.
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I'm against that.
Posted by: Roy Rogers at October 18, 2022 12:52 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Regular joe at October 18, 2022 12:52 PM (nnp+f)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 18, 2022 12:52 PM (eGTCV)
OTOH, can we maybe not make ANY derivatives of pathogenic viruses to "see what makes them tick" ever again? That didn't really work out well last time, assuming that was what they were really trying to do in Wuhan. I actually don't believe that last, because I think this was a "squib" bioweapon that got out of hand, but even if you did believe it, it's an amazingly bad idea.
Posted by: Dread at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (Ivxyi)
Posted by: SMOD and Yellowstone Caldera at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (CkFy6)
Hanging's too good for them.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 18, 2022 12:21 PM (pNxlR)
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Woodchipper slowly, feet first? Fire ants on a hot day? Chinese water torture of acid drops all over the body? Slow roasting on a spit? Tossed into a pen of hungry hogs?
I could go on. . . . .
Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (JNTt1)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:49 PM (eOEVl)
Then again, the very best researchers are the ones who are willing to live anywhere so long as they can get into the lab.
It's a nice thought, but even the best researchers have families and want a life in a pleasant place. I doubt you really want a BSL4 lab staffed exclusively with asocial moody loners.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (eOEVl)
I’m working under the assumption that all y’all know that I 271/I 71 gets you to Cbus
#sheesh
And with that, I’m back on the road … on I-71
Posted by: browndog on his cellphone at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (Z1c8s)
________
The ski mask in July was a tip off as well.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (lf83v)
Truman Capote?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 18, 2022 12:47 PM (J2vNu)
Soopy Sales.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 18, 2022
***
Truman Capote?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Fatty Arbuckle?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (z+OQR)
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 18, 2022 12:45 PM (JOtiF)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqurxi4PPIo
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 18, 2022 12:54 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:49 PM (eOEVl)
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Yup.
Posted by: MurphyzLaw at October 18, 2022 12:54 PM (eXzA1)
Defund. -Ace
C'mon, man! What's the worst that could happen? What are the odds a super deadly virus escapes a laboratory and causes a global pandemic? Besides, earth is way overpopulated, and the only way to reduce carbon emissions is through culling humanity!
80% sounds like a good start..
Posted by: Earth Libertarian Front at October 18, 2022 12:54 PM (qJL8o)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at October 18, 2022 12:54 PM (w9aVB)
Posted by: wth at October 18, 2022 12:54 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 12:54 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Leon S. Kennedy at October 18, 2022 12:55 PM (xEe87)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 18, 2022 12:55 PM (kXYt5)
Much hilarity ensued, I bet.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 18, 2022 12:48 PM (/iWhV)
I volunteered for the GOP during an election mumbledy years ago, and they put me up in some crumby chain motel in a crappy strip of town. One night I noticed a door ajar in a room and that the back door was also left ajar.
I am pretty sure they were renting out rooms by the hour there. I had already went and bought my own blankets to sleep on, because the place stank of Chorizo and cigarettes.
Thanks, GOPe.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 12:55 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 18, 2022
***
Truman Capote?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Fatty Arbuckle?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (z+OQR)
Ron Howard's brother?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 18, 2022 12:55 PM (w9aVB)
Posted by: browndog on his cellphone at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (Z1c8s)
Well I've never been to Cbus,
but I've been to Oklahoma.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 18, 2022 12:56 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
Step right up! Get your monkeypox, now with violently exploding pustules.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at October 18, 2022 12:56 PM (vCY06)
Posted by: Earth Libertarian Front at October 18, 2022 12:54 PM (qJL8o)
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Especially because it's racist to think that viruses can escape from labs!!
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 12:56 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 18, 2022 12:51 PM (nC+QA)
This.
When I first read Revelation, I thought it was in the far, far distant future - none of those things could ever happen in my lifetime.
Posted by: Moki at October 18, 2022 12:56 PM (JrN/x)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:49 PM (eOEVl)
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Yup.
WTF?!?! NO!
no it should make more sense to make it ILLEGAL to have any level 3 or 4 labs ANYWHERE near population centers, or ONLY legal offshore (I don't care if they are on a boat or rig). and that is IT
if the researchers want to do their projects that's where they go.
IDC if they want to live in the hip part of Boston! they can work in seasonal shifts. t
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 12:56 PM (w0NJk)
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Too easy. Put it next his daughters' house and their children.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 12:56 PM (lf83v)
These researchers could be arrested tomorrow.
But there is no will to do so.
And until there is a will to arrest them they will continue.
Look at Fauci - made COVID yet gets credit for "fighting COVID" in the public sphere
Posted by: 18-1 at October 18, 2022 12:56 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Fatty Arbuckle?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (z+OQR)
Ron Howard's brother?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 18, 2022 12:55 PM (w9aVB)
Henry Gibson
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)
Why Is Chuy Anti-Science?
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:57 PM (dSg0o)
Posted by: 20% of the Mice at Boston University at October 18, 2022 12:57 PM (CkFy6)
Piedmont was not nuked because they realized nuclear energy would have supercharged Andromeda.
And for such an alien virus it did follow Farr's Law and mutated until it rained into the Pacific Ocean.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 18, 2022 12:57 PM (kX6Uw)
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It's a nice thought, but even the best researchers have families and want a life in a pleasant place. I doubt you really want a BSL4 lab staffed exclusively with asocial moody loners.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (eOEVl)
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Yeah, the stereotype that great scientists sleep in the lab to do *more science!* (at least after grad school) is kinda bullsh*t.
You don't want the kind of person who forgets to sleep because "it's just so interesting" working on lethal pathogens.
Posted by: MurphyzLaw at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (eXzA1)
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (krQz2)
Def: a Fauci, a fraud committed by changing the definition of words, to bypass the clearly stated intent of a Law, or Government Policy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: MurphyzLaw at October 18, 2022 12:40 PM
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If a scientist wants to know the differences in the variants the examine the variants. Merging different variants is just stupid. Because as they have discovered, they made the more dangerous virus more contagious as well.
Posted by: Darth Randall at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (p7HlW)
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (5pTK/)
Anybody Remember George C. Scott in "Rage"?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069158/
Posted by: rd at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 18, 2022 12:55 PM (w9aVB)
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He has some lovely Tranya.
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Shiggz (defective slave) at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (SY3/7)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (eOEVl
Ever been to the desert in New Mexico. But yet scientists were more than willing to live there to research atomic fission.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:59 PM (dSg0o)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 18, 2022 12:59 PM (kX6Uw)
if the researchers want to do their projects that's where they go.
That sounds good, but that's not really how it works. Most of the people who make the place run have to be full timers. Sure, you can have visiting scientists, but without a full time staff, nothing gets done, and if something is accidentally done, it's usually a mistake. Look at places like Brookhaven Synchrotron as an example.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:59 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (Y2VIG)"
They all know it was. Remember, the media != reality. Not only have there been a couple slam dunk papers, one of them demonstrated that a bit of genetic sequence not found in any other virus in nature in the orignal strain is created by a sequence from a genetic toolkit patented by Moderna specifically intended for making such alterations.
Lot of people need a rope. There is no doubt that it was manmade, and that they then covered it up. Worse yet it's now clear they also ran dosing experiments with the jab on the public.
Posted by: somedood at October 18, 2022 12:59 PM (t0O2k)
brb, virusin'!
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:59 PM (dSg0o)
also they are level 3 not 4
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022
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How about they do it on an island off the *Indian* coast? Say, Christmas Island?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 18, 2022
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I take that back. How about the Kerguelen Islands?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
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How about the not do it at all?
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 18, 2022 12:59 PM (+cejL)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 18, 2022 12:50 PM (/iWhV)
You closed strong. You get coffee.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 12:59 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: Moki
>You should have suspected the jig was up when we got Pope Francis.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 18, 2022 01:00 PM (z+OQR)
Posted by: Plague at October 18, 2022 01:00 PM (oHd/0)
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For diseases and mutations that would never occur naturally.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 18, 2022 01:00 PM (yikp0)
I am never getting another jab in my life unless I am already dying of an incurable disease. I cannot believe that this sham President and all the supposedly educated doctors are being quiet. My friend just died and I am damn sure his fourth shot was his killer. He refused to believe that it was a bad thing when he had side effects and had ridiculed anyone who did not get a shot or wear masks. And now he leaves behind four kids, 3 grandbabies. And the grands have had the effing shot. Follow the money...we have Frankensteins for doctors and the ones who told the truth are losing their livelihoods.
Posted by: DefendUSA at October 18, 2022 01:00 PM (QwnRn)
CDC accidentally mailed around the country live samples of anthrax.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 18, 2022 12:59 PM (kX6Uw)
That was Covid 0.8 beta.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 18, 2022 01:00 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (5pTK/)
Kelly Johnson worked for Lockheed. He probably complained more about the government than we do.
Posted by: rd at October 18, 2022 01:00 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:59 PM (dSg0o)
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Just a song before I go,
A lesson to be learned:
Travelling twice the Speed of Science
It's easy for everything to get burned.
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 01:00 PM (krQz2)
The ski mask in July was a tip off as well.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 12:53 PM (lf83v)
C'mon, man, that's just a makeshift anti covid mask - the N-95's just weren't enough!
Posted by: Moki at October 18, 2022 01:00 PM (JrN/x)
Arguing that's it's not Gain of Function is like saying, "Just because I happened to walk into the bank with a shotgun doesn't mean I was robbing the place."
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 18, 2022 12:51 PM (y3pKJ)
It wasn't gain-of-function-gain-of-function.
Posted by: Whoopsi Goldberg, Super Genius at October 18, 2022 01:00 PM (llON8)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 18, 2022
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I take that back. How about the Kerguelen Islands?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
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How about the not do it at all?
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 18, 2022 12:59 PM (+cejL)
DING DING DING..... We HAVE a WINNAH!
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 18, 2022 01:01 PM (oHd/0)
But until people pay a criminal price for that this crap will continue
Posted by: 18-1 at October 18, 2022 01:01 PM (ESjRY)
Two radical Islamist brothers. Never.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 01:01 PM (lf83v)
We live in an insane asylum.
Posted by: sven at October 18, 2022 01:01 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 18, 2022 01:02 PM (7eZvF)
Remember Boston Stwonk?
Tflashbang and Tspeedbump remember....
Posted by: sven at October 18, 2022 01:02 PM (Lzpvj)
I have.
1) Parts of it, including Los Alamos, are absolutely beautiful.
2) There was something happening at the time, I don't remember what, but it seems that it was highly motivating and for a relatively short period.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 01:02 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: wth at October 18, 2022 12:54 PM (v0R5T)
Because they're too stupid to realize that it takes *a lot* of people working off stage to make their comfortable modern life possible. They see see themselves as Lords of the Manor (but with good medical care, clean water, and abundant food) and will find out too late that they've destroyed the people that run the infrastructure that makes all those wonders possible.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 18, 2022 01:02 PM (nC+QA)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 18, 2022 12:59 PM (+cejL)
Sometimes the only winning move, is not to play.
Posted by: Joshua at October 18, 2022 01:02 PM (oHd/0)
>You should have suspected the jig was up when we got Pope Francis.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 18, 2022 01:00 PM (z+OQR)
Lol! True, that should have been the leaf on the fig tree.
Posted by: Moki at October 18, 2022 01:03 PM (JrN/x)
Comparing Muslims to HITLER’: Lefties are trying to get Muslim parents fired for speaking out against sexually explicit books in schools (thread)
https://tinyurl.com/3mrz5ajs
Posted by: redridinghood at October 18, 2022 12:42 PM (NpAcC)
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I loved that the condescending clueless liberal NPC dude was wearing a Michigan hat.
I hope OSU trounces them as payback for last year.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 18, 2022 01:03 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 18, 2022 01:03 PM (kX6Uw)
ok then fuck it. don't do it at all
are there not researchers right now in Antarctica? I guess they're all just losers?
the cool kid scientists with families can NOT DO THIS. because this cannot be done NEAR POPULATED AREAS
Jesus Christ this is not hard to understand
people who work in science are really bullheaded, are they? seems so.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 01:03 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: MurphyzLaw at October 18, 2022 12:40 PM
Denying it is gain-of-function research is weasel word bullshit. GOF research does not happen ONLY when you make the most virulent strain.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 01:03 PM (yHsuS)
Any trust in the Federal Government and any trust in the "Health Care" Industry.
Posted by: rd at October 18, 2022 01:03 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (krQz2)
It's about a pound heavier.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 18, 2022 01:03 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 01:04 PM (lf83v)
Inductive, deductive, and abductive reason all pointed to man made origin of it...
Fauci rhapsodized about Trump facing a Pandemic and it turns out he had the receipts.
Posted by: sven at October 18, 2022 01:04 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (Qy7kP)
A hundred tons of thermite spread through the lab buildings, and then ignited ought to do the trick. Lock all the doors.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 18, 2022 01:04 PM (frS+9)
And now, magically, we are required to believe them. I often criticize the use of the word "incredible", which people misuse to convey a positive experience, but the origin of the word means "having no credibility".
Incredible.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 18, 2022 01:04 PM (7NKxb)
Yeah......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 01:04 PM (Zz0t1)
oh bullcrap
it's because back then people weren't selfish asshats, in the main. those scientists actually had integrity and character. unlike the endless-student types we're saddled with today
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 01:04 PM (w0NJk)
Hanging's too good for them.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 18, 2022 12:21 PM (pNxlR)
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Woodchipper slowly, feet first? Fire ants on a hot day? Chinese water torture of acid drops all over the body? Slow roasting on a spit? Tossed into a pen of hungry hogs?
I could go on. . . . .
Posted by: Bonecrusher
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Get out the Leroy Neiman paintings.
Posted by: Furious George at October 18, 2022 01:04 PM (CkFy6)
Posted by: Barney Rubble at October 18, 2022 01:05 PM (qiUw+)
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (krQz2)
It's about a pound heavier.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 18, 2022 01:03 PM (XvPQV)
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Get yourself a bigger dug.
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 01:05 PM (krQz2)
brb, virusin'!
Posted by: Soothie at October 18, 2022 12:59 PM
You okay?
You sound a little vaccinated.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 18, 2022 01:05 PM (y3pKJ)
Posted by: rickb223
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My suggestion would be a slow steady burn of all of the facilities. If there is collateral damage, well...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 18, 2022 01:05 PM (S5jV/)
Any trust in the Federal Government and any trust in the "Health Care" Industry.
and soon, any trust in research scientists
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 01:05 PM (w0NJk)
people who work in science are really bullheaded, are they? seems so.
Posted by: BlackOrchid
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just telling people what the variables are.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 01:05 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: "Patches" O'Doul, BU '78 at October 18, 2022 01:05 PM (amJF4)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 18, 2022 01:05 PM (7eZvF)
Correct, like Brooks in Waukesha "watch me use a magic combination of words to change reality"....
Well "no" let's stop trying to fuck this particular door knob as a species.
We are not God, we have no business playing at this level.
Posted by: sven at October 18, 2022 01:05 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 01:06 PM (lf83v)
It's creepy.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)
fify
Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2022 01:06 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 01:03 PM (w0NJk)
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Ayn Rand may have been on to something when some of her main characters also had philosophy degrees. It's the old "Just because you can do something doesn't mean it should be done" phrase.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 18, 2022 01:06 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 01:04 PM (lf83v)
........
I doubt Fen would want us speculating about her weight.
Posted by: wth at October 18, 2022 01:06 PM (v0R5T)
I loved that the condescending clueless liberal NPC dude was wearing a Michigan hat.
I hope OSU trounces them as payback for last year.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 18, 2022 01:03 PM (fs1hN)
Nah. There's a moderate sense of joy that comes from the pure dejection on the face of an Ohio State football fan when they lose. ESPECIALLY to Michigan.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 01:06 PM (Zz0t1)
*********
*shifty eyes*
The Horde
Posted by: Muldoon at October 18, 2022 01:07 PM (kXYt5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD4GbGmvNRc
Posted by: Augustine at October 18, 2022 01:07 PM (BDZWU)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 18, 2022 01:07 PM (7eZvF)
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We're a couple years late for that, if not more.
Is this gov funded research? Of course it is. We live in clown world.
Posted by: ... at October 18, 2022 01:07 PM (T1bM6)
ha ha ha just read that and not impressed with their spin AT ALL
oh and I was right - Level 3
and semantics on whether it's GOF. just ass covering by BU
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 01:07 PM (w0NJk)
In other words, this story is really no big deal. The new strain is the same as the old strain ... no change.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 01:07 PM (Cus5s)
fify
Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2022 01:06 PM (AwYPR)
That's how THEY want it said. I will not capitulate.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 01:07 PM (Zz0t1)
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I just automatically read this out loud with a Schwarzenegger accent.
Get to the choppah!
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 01:07 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 18, 2022 01:08 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2022 01:08 PM (bkUtD)
**
"...an investment firm led by Hunter Biden was a key financial collaborator with Peter Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan Institute of Virology."
https://tinyurl.com/2kcx5egb
Almost like it was all planned out by politicians and political families.
Posted by: Gray Man at October 18, 2022 01:08 PM (KQUPm)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 18, 2022 12:48 PM (/iWhV)
If you go to the TX MoMee *do not* stay At the Super 8, especially Saturday night. Usually Super 8s are fine hotels, but this one needs investigated.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 18, 2022 01:08 PM (nC+QA)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (ppBhU)
It might be time to quote Cannibal Corpse lyrics.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at
Shit, it's time for Manowar lyrics.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 18, 2022 01:08 PM (FPfW8)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 18, 2022 01:08 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 01:07 PM (lf83v)
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Bringing it online now.
Posted by: Vanderbilt University Medical Center at October 18, 2022 01:09 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 18, 2022 01:09 PM (fs1hN)
Rancher decided to use his Vegan, as in alien civilization, gene splicer to rid the world of coyotes. Unfortunately his bug then jumped to dogs.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 18, 2022 01:09 PM (kX6Uw)
You are not telling us anything, hell CUOMO19 was first broached in some ways in Houston.
Urkle X made a big show of "outlawing it" but like a lot of things there is what the law says and what "law" does and they are not the same thing.
Posted by: sven at October 18, 2022 01:09 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 01:07 PM (Cus5s)
If it's nothing, then what exactly the fuck is the point of what they are doing, then?
Posted by: ... at October 18, 2022 01:09 PM (T1bM6)
Trying to make a 79% lethal strain (and failing) shouldn't count as GAINZ-of-function research!
Posted by: Boston U at October 18, 2022 01:09 PM (amJF4)
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They're denying doing something illegal and that 85% of the nation knows screwed up the economy, the country, and our election?
Posted by: Gray Man at October 18, 2022 01:09 PM (KQUPm)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 18, 2022 12:15 PM (ppBhU)
It might be time to quote Cannibal Corpse lyrics.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at
Shit, it's time for Manowar lyrics.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 18, 2022 01:08 PM (FPfW8
There are some types of fire that just should NOT be played with.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 01:09 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Barney Rubble at October 18, 2022 01:05 PM (qiUw+)
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Best part after reading those denials at that site? A link at the end of the page entitled:
"Boston lab approved to study world's deadliest microorganisms" [last updated Dec 6, 2017]
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War AND Hurricane Vaccines at October 18, 2022 01:10 PM (K3TEc)
Posted by: Gray Man at October 18, 2022 01:08 PM (KQUPm)
Look at the years. 2014-.
It was intended to happen under Hillary.
Posted by: ... at October 18, 2022 01:10 PM (T1bM6)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 18, 2022 01:09 PM (fs1hN)
It IS a free country, after all. Sort of.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 18, 2022 01:11 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: wth at October 18, 2022 01:11 PM (v0R5T)
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BU also gave a baccalaureate diploma to Alexandra Ocasio Cortez, so. . .
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 01:11 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Captain Trips at October 18, 2022 01:11 PM (PWI4f)
Probably to insulate her from being able to be voted out.
Posted by: sven at October 18, 2022 01:11 PM (Lzpvj)
people who work in science are really bullheaded, are they? seems so.
Posted by: BlackOrchid
Some of the most bullheaded you'd meet.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 01:11 PM (yHsuS)
"Boston lab approved to study world's deadliest microorganisms" [last updated Dec 6, 2017]
Posted by: ShainS
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Shut up those are biological weapons labs in Ukraine, they're biological DEFENSE labs, dummy!
Posted by: Gray Man at October 18, 2022 01:11 PM (KQUPm)
not exactly
they took what made Omi more "catchy" and added that to the original SARS II
which wasn't as catchy as reported at the time
so now it's a very very catchy but more virulent SARS II, oh and lab-created
also, the negative affects on the animals were more neurological then respiratory, which is worrying. so it acted differently on the mice than the OG strain
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 01:11 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: Soothsayer the Senile TV Encyclopedia at October 18, 2022 01:11 PM (EypRx)
Posted by: Holy Crap at October 18, 2022 01:11 PM (glGDV)
Which Michigan, quarterbacked by Jim Harbaugh, won.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 18, 2022 01:11 PM (7eZvF)
It sounded like it was 100 times more lethal, since we assumed that applied to humans.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 01:12 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 18, 2022 01:06 PM (lf83v)
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That is Neil DeGrasse Tyson level reasoning.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 18, 2022 01:12 PM (to2dd)
These people not only need to be defunded. They need to go to prison for a long time.
There is no clear, clean path for evolution. It doesn't work that way at all. You cannot predict ahead of time with any exactitude what the new variant of anything will be.
Look how often the CDC fucks up the flu vaccine and misses the type entirely. And that's a process that occurs every freaking year with a very well-known agent.
Seen in hindsight, the path of evolution may be clear. And yet there's no clear way to predict things ahead of time.
The creation of super deadly viruses has no function beyond the creation of super deadly viruses.
Ladies and gentlemen, here's your new Andromeda Strain!
This is dangerous, feckless criminality with a potential death toll of billions. These people need to be imprisoned.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 18, 2022 01:13 PM (KLPy8)
Posted by: TexasDan at October 18, 2022 01:13 PM (atj+1)
Posted by: sven at October 18, 2022 01:11 PM (Lzpvj)
Yup. And also to get us to the "new normal"... err great leap forward. .
The national lockdowns and daily lectures would have been 1,000 times more insane, with no one able to "dissent".
Posted by: ... at October 18, 2022 01:13 PM (T1bM6)
*shifty eyes*
The Horde
Posted by: Muldoon
>There's one of those in Hamilton, Montana. Population: 4,659
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 18, 2022 01:13 PM (z+OQR)
Posted by: Barney Rubble at October 18, 2022 01:05 PM (qiUw+)
What did they DENY?
They said they did it! They said the Mouse Fatality data was "Taken out of Context." They never denied that 80% of the mice died when exposed to that one virus mutation.
They also pulled a Fauci and said their Gain of Function Research was not Gain of Function Research.
I see total confirmation of the story in their press releases.
Posted by: rd at October 18, 2022 01:13 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 18, 2022
Ron Howard's brother?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 18, 2022 12:55 PM
Don't look at me...please!
Posted by: John Fetterman's Lump at October 18, 2022 01:13 PM (2sJhu)
If it's nothing, then what exactly the fuck is the point of what they are doing, then?
Posted by: ... at October 18, 2022 01:09 PM (T1bM6)
Follow the money.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 18, 2022 01:13 PM (BdMk6)
Rubbish like this is just agitprop to get the poors quaking again and to queue up to receive the latest, greatest vaxxine...
It's an op... Don't be fooled, again...
Posted by: Zettai at October 18, 2022 01:13 PM (+fYTj)
Posted by: Edward Teller at October 18, 2022 01:14 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 18, 2022 01:09 PM (fs1hN)
It's the Kissinger dilemma for me.
Posted by: Roy at October 18, 2022 01:14 PM (lETaQ)
Posted by: ... at October 18, 2022 01:14 PM (T1bM6)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 18, 2022 01:14 PM (kX6Uw)
Dead on, people who openly jerk off to the idea of there only being allowed to be 500 million people on Earth at any given time have no business being anywhere near anything deadlier than a dishwasher.
Posted by: sven at October 18, 2022 01:14 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 18, 2022 12:17 PM
Boston can't be that great. Go ahead.
Posted by: huerfano, stochastic commenter at October 18, 2022 12:19 PM (dTFZY)
Boston ain't the kind of place
To raise a kid
Posted by: m at October 18, 2022 01:14 PM (GkGYg)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 18, 2022 01:15 PM (lz5hY)
Follow the money.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 18, 2022 01:13 PM (BdMk6)
That plus they are lying.
Posted by: ... at October 18, 2022 01:15 PM (T1bM6)
Posted by: That's One Post Today at October 18, 2022 01:15 PM (SmFPm)
________
Pray with me, Henry. Get on your knees and pray with me.
Posted by: Zombie Dick Nixon at October 18, 2022 01:15 PM (lf83v)
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She doesn't really mean that. Not really.
Posted by: Gray Man at October 18, 2022 01:15 PM (KQUPm)
Posted by: M&M at October 18, 2022 01:15 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: ... at October 18, 2022 01:15 PM (T1bM6)
Posted by: ... at October 18, 2022 01:07 PM (T1bM6)
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Future Death Certificate Cause of Death: "Your taxpayer dollars."
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War AND Hurricane Vaccines at October 18, 2022 01:16 PM (K3TEc)
There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.
Posted by: Dubya at October 18, 2022 01:16 PM (Vu7A1)
Stop! My eyes are becoming glassy.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:20 PM (eOEVl)
That's mind-shattering.
Posted by: m at October 18, 2022 01:17 PM (GkGYg)
........
So you're eligible for a loan bailout?
Posted by: wth at October 18, 2022 01:17 PM (v0R5T)
We got the UP, full of hawt Scandi women.
I think we know who won the Toledo War.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 18, 2022 01:17 PM (7eZvF)
Oh, I neglected to mention that public acceptance of the latest, greatest vaxxine has been much less than anticipated so far, less than 15 million doses bestowed upon the little people thus far...
Posted by: Zettai at October 18, 2022 01:17 PM (Aar8Z)
also, the negative affects on the animals were more neurological then respiratory, which is worrying. so it acted differently on the mice than the OG strain" Posted by: BlackOrchid
OK, I didn't read all that. But the "80% Lethality" headline is misleading. That is no change from the others, which were also 80% lethality. If they are trying to make it more dangerous, that sounds bad, and would be "gain of bad function".
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 01:17 PM (Cus5s)
||RESEARCH PANEL, INCLUDING BU’S GERALD KEUSCH, SAYS PANDEMIC CAME FROM NATURE, NOT A LAB
Original article from Science by Jon Cohen. October 10, 2022
The acrimonious debate over the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic flared up again this week with a report from an expert panel concluding that SARS-CoV-2 likely spread naturally in a zoonotic jump from an animal to humans—without help from a lab.
“Our paper recognizes that there are different possible origins, but the evidence towards zoonosis is overwhelming,” says co-author Danielle Anderson, a virologist at the University of Melbourne. The report, which includes an analysis that found the peer-reviewed literature overwhelmingly supports the zoonotic hypotheses, appeared in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) on 10 October.||
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 18, 2022 01:17 PM (yikp0)
Future Death Certificate Cause of Death: "Your taxpayer dollars."
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War AND Hurricane Vaccines at October 18, 2022 01:16 PM (K3TEc)
Technically -those who have died over the last 2 years should have that on their death certificate as well.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 18, 2022 01:17 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: MurphyzLaw
There are certain ventures or activities in which you shouldn't make mistakes. This is one of them. They all should be introduced to another profession.
The end product was still a novel virus; excusing as a genetic precursor study only is aggravated obtuseness. Their research is extremely dangerous and they fucked up. Fire them and everyone like them.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 18, 2022 01:17 PM (IyrhE)
We got the UP, full of hawt Scandi women.
I think we know who won the Toledo War.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 18, 2022 01:17 PM (7eZvF)
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Well that might be but we don't have the White Witch running things down here at least.
Posted by: Augustine at October 18, 2022 01:18 PM (BDZWU)
To raise a kid
__________
I looked out this morning and the sun was gone
Turned on some music to start my day
I lost myself in a familiar song
I closed my eyes and I slipped away.
Posted by: Boston Blackie at October 18, 2022 01:18 PM (lf83v)
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Including 10,000 papers alone from China proving it wasn't manmade or altered!!
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 18, 2022 01:19 PM (yikp0)
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 18, 2022 01:19 PM (ik/65)
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 01:12 PM (Cus5s)
You are doing GOF techniques. You are using the precursors for COVID19 and other mutated strains. You are splicing things together and observing their function in GOF targets.
You are doing GOF research. The outcome (X% more or less lethal) is completely irrelevant to the question of whether you are doing GOF research.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 01:19 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 18, 2022 01:19 PM (hXXru)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 18, 2022 01:19 PM (HmZuC)
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Stop! My eyes are becoming glassy.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 18, 2022 12:20
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That's mind-shattering.
Posted by: m at October 18, 2022 0
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A transparent ruse
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 18, 2022 01:19 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2022 01:19 PM (VWp7G)
Posted by: Darth Randall at October 18, 2022 12:22 PM (p7HlW)
A poem!!
Posted by: m at October 18, 2022 01:20 PM (GkGYg)
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 18, 2022 01:20 PM (yHsuS)
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PNAS? Are we not doing phrasing anymore?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 18, 2022 01:20 PM (906pl)
How many papers has Lancet had to withdraw in the past five years?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 18, 2022 01:20 PM (kX6Uw)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 18, 2022 01:20 PM (7eZvF)
Seen in hindsight, the path of evolution may be clear. And yet there's no clear way to predict things ahead of time.
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But, but ... but, they've got computer models for that!
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War AND Hurricane Vaccines at October 18, 2022 01:20 PM (K3TEc)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 18, 2022 01:21 PM (lz5hY)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 18, 2022 01:21 PM (+cejL)
The Final Solution to Human Pollution is Dissolution. They will create their little population control bug and release it upon us. And as we die in the millions and billions they & their families will be safe in their fortified and fully stocked bunkers until it finally burns itself out and they will emerge in a pristine world where they will rule over the dregs that survive.
Posted by: Captain Trips at October 18, 2022 01:21 PM (PWI4f)
How many papers has Lancet had to withdraw in the past five years?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 18, 2022 01:20 PM (kX6Uw)
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Peer-review? That's what the Twitter Experts are for ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War AND Hurricane Vaccines at October 18, 2022 01:21 PM (K3TEc)
“Our paper recognizes that there are different possible origins, but the evidence towards zoonosis is overwhelming,” says co-author Danielle Anderson, a virologist at the University of Melbourne. The report, which includes an analysis that found the peer-reviewed literature overwhelmingly supports the zoonotic hypotheses, appeared in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) on 10 October.||
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 18, 2022 01:17 PM (yikp0)
Follow the money.
Oh, and how do they account for the various cleavage sites pointing to artificial origins?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 18, 2022 01:21 PM (N39Ws)
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I'd read recently that there's quite a bit of discussion on COVID being a blood and/or vascular disease and not a respiratory disease. Which makes sense.
Speaking of, did you hear that Pfizer's Covid drug Paxlovid causes deadly blood clots?
hahahaha
Posted by: Gray Man at October 18, 2022 01:22 PM (KQUPm)
Posted by: m at October 18, 2022 01:23 PM (GkGYg)
that is the question. Were they trying to make it more lethal, or less lethal, or looking for better cures? idk. Maybe just sucking up free Covid Bucks.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2022 01:23 PM (Cus5s)
“Our paper recognizes that there are different possible origins, but the evidence towards zoonosis is overwhelming,” says co-author Danielle Anderson...
**
Everyone who has compensated us to insist that it didn't come from where it obviously came from assures us that it didn't come from where it clearly came from!
Posted by: Gray Man at October 18, 2022 01:23 PM (KQUPm)
.@SpeakerPelosi: "I don't agree" w/ polls showing Americans care about soaring crime & inflation
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Yeah, what kind of screwball cares about crime and inflation when the Republicans are trying to take away your constitutional right to chop your son's penis off and transgender your daughter's arm to make a girl penis?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Smarter Than Lumpy Fetterman! at October 18, 2022 01:25 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: rd at October 18, 2022 01:25 PM (Z32m1)
The Final Solution to Human Pollution is Dissolution. They will create their little population control bug and release it upon us. And as we die in the millions and billions they & their families will be safe in their fortified and fully stocked bunkers until it finally burns itself out and they will emerge in a pristine world where they will rule over the dregs that survive.
Posted by: Captain Trips at October 18, 2022 01:21 PM (PWI4f)
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I'll never forget watching the movie Outbreak in a theater, and at the end of the movie there was some text put up on the screen that said something to the effect that "Humans are the deadliest virus on the planet" or some such idiocy. In-your-face Malthusianism ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War AND Hurricane Vaccines at October 18, 2022 01:27 PM (K3TEc)
Posted by: Axeman at October 18, 2022 01:05 PM (krQz2)
Nazi Pelosi's got a set of humdingers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 18, 2022 01:27 PM (Wne3B)
Posted by: Toni at October 18, 2022 01:28 PM (PjNh5)
“Just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should”.
Posted by: Zombie Ronald Reagan, please save us at October 18, 2022 01:28 PM (75Vow)
Posted by: TexasDan at October 18, 2022 01:30 PM (bP3er)
https://mol.im/a/11325881
Posted by: Ciampino - - - Here squirrel squirrel at October 18, 2022 01:32 PM (qfLjt)
because all I'm seeing here is a college that needs to shut down such research RIGHT NOW and if they want to continue it, do it on an island far off the coast.
also they are level 3 not 4
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 18, 2022 12:33 PM (w0NJk)
They're level 4. See Boston University's press release:
https://www.bu.edu/articles/
2017/neidl-bsl-4-lab-approved
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at October 18, 2022 01:43 PM (ZSK0i)
You mean we should send them to China and not let them come back?
I dwell dead-atwixt 'em, so that's an every year thing.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 18, 2022 01:59 PM (x61Im)
Posted by: Goatweed at October 18, 2022 02:20 PM (0Q/6W)
but playing with ANY GOF work is insane ...
Posted by: The Dark Lord at October 18, 2022 02:21 PM (5cMUX)
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in the given stat processing system…..__www.homecash1.com
Posted by: 3456 at October 18, 2022 06:58 PM (Nrii2)
I did what they did not - I actually read the paper.
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