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NYT/Sienna Poll: Republicans Gain On Democrats in Closing Weeks; Independent Women Shift MASSIVELY to the GOP
Aww, you had to soften the blow. But a NYT poll showing Republicans ahead means you're in huge trouble. Important to note: Republicans lag in national polls, and do much better in polls in competitive districts. That is, Democrats are overrepresented in non-competitive districts and underrepresented in competitive districts actually in play. So any kind of national lead is a bigger lead in competitive districts -- nevermind the leftwing propaganda media constantly undercounting Republican voters, whether through malice, incompetence, or a characteristically toxic Regime Mix of the malice and incompetence.
Republicans enter the final weeks of the contest for control of Congress with a narrow but distinct advantage as the economy and inflation have surged as the dominant concerns, giving the party momentum to take back power from Democrats in next month's midterm elections, a New York Times/Siena College poll has found. The poll shows that 49% of likely voters said they planned to vote for a Republican on Nov. 8 to represent them in Congress, compared with 45% who planned to vote for a Democrat. The result represents an improvement for Republicans since September, when Democrats held a 1-point edge among likely voters in the last Times/Siena poll. (The October poll's unrounded margin is closer to 3 points, not the 4 points that the rounded figures imply.)
Democrats lead on some issues -- namely, the issues the public doesn't prioritize highly.
With inflation unrelenting and the stock market steadily on the decline, the share of likely voters who said economic concerns were the most important issues facing America has leaped since July, to 44% from 36% -- far higher than any other issue. And voters most concerned with the economy favored Republicans overwhelmingly, by more than a 2-1 margin. Both Democrats and Republicans have largely coalesced behind their own party's congressional candidates. But the poll showed that Republicans opened up a 10-percentage-point lead among crucial independent voters, compared with a 3-point edge for Democrats in September, as undecided voters moved toward Republicans.
A Harvard-HarrisX poll just demonstrated how much of an issues advantage Republicans enjoyed. The three issues the public cares about the most are, in order, price increases/inflation, the economy/jobs, and immigration.
While the share of voters focused on guns declined, those who identified abortion as the top issue remained flat, at 5%. There is a sizable gender split on the issue's significance: 9% of women rated it as the top issue compared with just 1% of men.
Republicans made massive gains with independent women in recent weeks as Democrats ramped up their messaging on abortion ahead of the midterm elections. ... Of particular note was a 32 point swing among independent women toward the GOP. In September's iteration of the poll, Democrats boasted a 14 point lead among that demographic, but by October, Republicans held an 18 point advantage. While Democratic officials and progressive commentators had suggested that the Supreme Court's overturning of Roe v. Wade might lessen the expected electoral blow of the midterms, the swing toward the GOP among independent women -- the group most heavily targeted by Democratic strategists -- suggests that their focus on abortion might be to their own detriment. In a TV segment last month, Republican operative Matt Gorman was rebuked by his fellow panelists for suggesting that abortion "is not in the top four of issues." Yamiche Alcindor of PBS and NBC insisted that on the campaign trail "abortion comes up 90 percent of the time" when she speaks with voters. Claire McCaskill, a Missouri Democrat and former senator who lost her re-election bid in 2016, shouted over other guests to declare "I hope Matt keeps saying that everywhere he goes -- that abortion isn't really an issue here in this election. I think it is exactly what infuriates women when they hear that."
WATCH: @mattsgorman tells the panel abortion "is not in the top four of issues." @Yamiche and @clairecmc fiercely disagree.@Yamiche: "Abortion comes up 90% of the time" on the campaign trail.@clairecmc: It "infuriates women when they hear that." pic.twitter.com/MR8jHQAnyz
— Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) September 11, 2022
According to a study conducted by AdImpact, Democrats spent 73 million on messaging ads about abortion in September, which is "about a third of all Democratic television ad spending," per NPR.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: GF at October 17, 2022 01:56 PM (5yd1U)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: brak at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (j5Tg0)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (f1WnY)
How much on grooming?
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (JOtiF)
Posted by: pookysgirl, small-town female voter at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (XKZwp)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (9yUzE)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (Zz0t1)
Will it make a difference? I do think its a slight headwind, mainly because Republicans cant seem to get unified on a single message. Here in AZ, they bungled passing a state law to address it.
But I do think much of the same people who really care about abortion were already voting that way regardless.
Posted by: Blago at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (PwNLq)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (8oyo2)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2022 01:59 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 17, 2022 01:59 PM (+bONN)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 17, 2022 01:59 PM (sX1BW)
I assert independent women have been leaning Republican for months, if not years, and pollsters have been intentionally hiding it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:59 PM (LvTSG)
Do the Dumocraps look scared to you? Ignore what they say. Watch what they do. They are double- and tripling-down on every terrible policy that supposedly will kill them in November, up to and including their child sexual perversions.
It’s almost like they know something we don’t. I think they do know something: they plan on stealing 2022 just like they did 2020. How are we gonna stop them? The GOP practically cheered on the steal in 2020.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
BULLSHIT
Two words
Corporate Tax Cuts.
Aw crap that's three. Just like the number of cabana boys Frank is having over tonight
Posted by: Kevin McCarthy-Luntz at October 17, 2022 01:59 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 17, 2022 02:00 PM (T4C1j)
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 02:00 PM (KY22T)
Posted by: jc at October 17, 2022 02:00 PM (N1WXz)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2022 02:00 PM (4I/2K)
It's all about the 401K. Those spa treatments are pricey yo. And let's not even talk about the price of Malbec lately
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 02:00 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 17, 2022 02:00 PM (+bONN)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (CwQXo)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (906pl)
Posted by: Darth Randall at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (zL564)
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This election is going to prove that abortion has been THE paper tiger of American politics for decades. "We can't attack it. We'll lose women voters!"
Roe gets overturned (an apocalypse-level event according to the mouthpieces of the left for the past 30 years), and women vote Republican?
What else have we been told is untouchable in politics?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (LvTSG)
I don't think abortion is even that important to them. It's just that they want to be the people who SAY abortion is critical, not because it is, but because it allows them to publicly preen their liberal feathers.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (9yUzE)
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We'd be lucky if they accomplished jack shit. They are more likely to actively sabotage efforts to reign in the demonic Dumocrap party.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (iFTx/)
Then, how many of them care more about abortion then they hyperinflation and economic depression we are in?
Doesn't seem a very large number to me...
Also, if you live in a blue state R v W's repeal will have NO effect on you. So its really how much do you want young black women in the south to kill their kids?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:02 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (9yUzE)
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Unfortunately, you are likely correct in the near term. The big thing is that thebnext couple cycles are bad for the dems in the Senate. If they lose 4-5 seats, then they're in bad shape for the next decade. 6-7 would be catastrophic.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 17, 2022 02:02 PM (T4C1j)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 17, 2022 02:02 PM (lTGtQ)
What *doesn't* infuriate your garden variety Karen?
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 02:02 PM (dCxaZ)
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There's going to be a Red Wave, that's undeniable.
I think it would have been bigger had
A) Roe vs Wade not been overturned
B) Trump had made better endorsements in these Senate races.
It's going to be a bad night for Democrats, but it could have been an Red Tsunami had a few things come out differently.
We'll see what happens in the Senate, but that is where I have the most pessimism.
Posted by: Blago at October 17, 2022 02:02 PM (PwNLq)
I don't think abortion is even that important to them. It's just that they want to be the people who SAY abortion is critical, not because it is, but because it allows them to publicly preen their liberal feathers.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (eOEVl)
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Abortion also generates a ton of money for a lot of people. They ain't giving that up without a fight.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:02 PM (iFTx/)
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Finally saw my first pro-Democrat ad in SC-1 (I just don't watch much that has ads in it, so it's an exposure thing for me, personally), and it's all abortion.
In South Carolina. I mean, I know this is SC-1. It's not exactly a rural county, but it sure ain't Columbia either.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:02 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:02 PM (Ivdso)
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I think in part because they believe (and probably rightly so) that a huge GOP swing will not slow down their progress. The only branch that matters to them (and probably rightly so) is the unelected 4th branch that actually controls everything. So why be concerned. Let the GOP and their base have their victory, but progress will march on. Maybe just a bit slower than we hoped. Until the GOP actually shows some signs of reversal, they have every reason to not fear a Red wave. The good news is I think we are sending better Republicans. The bad news is there are still a bunch of bad ones.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 17, 2022 02:03 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: These Fish Sticks Are Hard As Tits at October 17, 2022 02:03 PM (3AD8C)
Posted by: The Grand Old Party Emus at October 17, 2022 02:03 PM (CwQXo)
Yeah, I noticed that to. It's almost like they really don't care about alienating voters. Almost as if voting didn't matter.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 02:03 PM (9yUzE)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (9yUzE)
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Are you implying impeachment votes that don't lead to convictions are nothing?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:03 PM (LvTSG)
Unfortunately he may be right if Chicago has its way.
Posted by: Octochicken at October 17, 2022 02:03 PM (oCS0o)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 17, 2022 02:03 PM (W5wR3)
Posted by: greggers at October 17, 2022 02:03 PM (s9RWU)
Posted by: Independent Women at October 17, 2022 02:03 PM (+bONN)
Dave? You here man?
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:04 PM (BJKQV)
Look, rubes, it's very simple:
If we abort your kids now we won't have to cut your kids tits and dicks off later.
Got it?
Posted by: Your Globopedo Betters at October 17, 2022 02:04 PM (ntQL5)
She brings it up 100% of the time, unless she forgets. I wonder if she keeps records to support her assertion? 90% sounds very sciency.
Also, "Yamiche" sounds like the scientific name for a mutated yeast infection.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 17, 2022 02:04 PM (JOtiF)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (9yUzE)
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Unfortunately, you are likely correct in the near term. The big thing is that thebnext couple cycles are bad for the dems in the Senate. If they lose 4-5 seats, then they're in bad shape for the next decade. 6-7 would be catastrophic.
You are correct, CAIE. I'll accept a pause in the active destruction of the country for the next two years, followed by tumbrels and guillotines after '24.
But, you know, it's more fun to bitch and moan.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:04 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: GOPe at October 17, 2022 02:04 PM (PWvcU)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (9yUzE)
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Fattening our bank accounts isn't nothing, plebe.
Posted by: Bitch McConnell at October 17, 2022 02:04 PM (zL564)
Normies. They make up about 40% of PA voters
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 02:04 PM (dCxaZ)
Today I learned why we probably saw so many fields unharvested in South Dakota last week: They can't ship the harvested grain. Trucking shortage + high diesel prices + no fuel additive + looming rail strike + Mississippi going to record lows = farmers putting tarps on their harvested crops. This is going to get baaaaad.....
Posted by: pookysgirl, stocking up at October 17, 2022 02:04 PM (XKZwp)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (Zz0t1)
Any time I see you go, it make me feel bad
Red red wave, you make me feel so fine,
Monkey pox him Rizla pon the sweet.
Posted by: Prog Tears at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (3cGpq)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Independent Women at October 17, 2022 02:03 PM (+bONN)
Not if yer jabbed and fully boosted honey
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (dCxaZ)
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They've been avoiding debates, while the Biden admin pushes through desperate policy after desperate policy in hopes of stirring up the base.
Jesus fucking christ, there's absolutely nothing that they could do that would satisfy you that they are in a panic. Everything is an op. Everything is somehow proof that they've won it all.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (T4C1j)
Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Amy Schumer at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (flINI)
I assert independent women have been leaning Republican for months, if not years, and pollsters have been intentionally hiding it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
This. The only thing I can think of that might have accelerated the trend is the gas prices jumping back up. But no way do I believe a 32% jump in under a month. I think we are in the stage where pollsters try not to be so biased they look insane to their clients after the election.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp, Ultra Dark MAGA at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (rWFyW)
Because they're for strippers.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (Zz0t1)
Sponge not quoting Queensryche.
Sponge speak truth.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (CwQXo)
"But does anyone ask if they are planted questions, hmmm?
Isn't that cOnViEnIeNt!" - Church Lady voice.
Posted by: Scott_T at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (2waQ7)
And that will continue until it doesn't. The trend is encouraging.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (eOEVl)
One slipped through of the democrat governor bad mouthing the republican. The ad showed a nice looking republican candidate. Someone who looks like a nice normal woman who would be fun to be around. The ad ends with a picture of the democrat candidate doing her best dyke/ Karen look asking to see your manager.
Posted by: Beartooth at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (IP9GB)
Posted by: PP is a chop shop for babies at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (FP2R9)
Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (kOpft)
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Rasmussen.
I don't believe it. Even if Rasmussen is right, I don't believe it when they say it. Rasmussen is dogshit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: In before the troll at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (n+4am)
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This is the story of California, and is why California is irrelevant in terms of national electoral politics. It's a rotten borough and the Democrat will win. Some local races in that state might matter, but the state itself is completely irrelevant.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Jen the original at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (gcNWh)
Posted by: Peter Buttplug at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (ntQL5)
time for another amnesty bill!
Posted by: GOP at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (j5Tg0)
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (BJKQV)
"But does anyone ask if they are planted questions, hmmm?
Isn't that cOnViEnIeNt!" - Church Lady voice.
Posted by: Scott_T at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (2waQ7)
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"I also campaign exclusively at places where rich, white, progressive women congregate."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (LvTSG)
Nothing that Republican congresses have a documented history of never accomplishing anything (aside from spending increases and tax cuts for cronies) is not bitching and moaning.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (9yUzE)
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 17, 2022
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And "Alcindor" was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's family name. Any relation?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (J2vNu)
So apply that filter when thinking about this poll.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (X1znj)
Today they had as a guest, Chelsea Manning, among others.
Not that there's anything wrong with that
Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (7NKxb)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (+bONN)
Look! I make vajayjay with my hands!
Posted by: New TV ad from Gruesome Gov Newsom at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (W5wR3)
Because there was never a 32 point swing.
That kind of change doesn't happen without a massive event. And there was none in the last 3 months.
No, the R support was always there. The pollsters drank a barrel of "Dobbs will hurt Republicans!" Kool-aid
What's delicious is, the Dems actually thought the polls were correct. And now, as mentioned, the ads are cut, the issues are locked in-- it's too late
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (Zf0+a)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (a3Q+t)
And that will continue until it doesn't. The trend is encouraging.
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Without a doubt. At some point, the GOP is going to have to deliver a blowback to the administrative state. Somehow, someway. There are many ways to do this, but we need a Doolittle Raid type attack that lets the base know they are ready for the fight.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (9yUzE)
i'm ok with that. it's 100 times better than the full on charge the commies have been leading in congress. and maybe we get lucky and something for us slips through...
Posted by: SturmToddler at October 17, 2022 02:08 PM (Mkvkw)
Posted by: GOPe at October 17, 2022 02:08 PM (DTZDT)
Jesus fucking christ, there's absolutely nothing that they could do that would satisfy you that they are in a panic. Everything is an op. Everything is somehow proof that they've won it all.
Tiresome, in'nt.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:08 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: The Democrats at October 17, 2022 02:08 PM (T0jQj)
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So this is how people answered the question, "what do you think the Democrats care about?"
This makes sense, if I understand it correctly. If you've seen the news, you can answer this question and get the same answer. Unless you're based, in which case your answer will be "trying to kill me."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:08 PM (t0OGg)
Call me crazy, but what if instead of having a red wave *or* a realignment election, we have a rd wave *and* a realignment election?
Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2022 02:08 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 02:08 PM (9yUzE)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (3cGpq)
Or they're just pissy because the price of wine keeps going up.
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:09 PM (BJKQV)
She brings it up 100% of the time, unless she forgets. I wonder if she keeps records to support her assertion? 90% sounds very sciency.
Also, "Yamiche" sounds like the scientific name for a mutated yeast infection.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 17, 2022 02:04 PM (JOtiF)
Who is the audience of PBS and Alcindor. 90% abortion fanatics. Very sciency there, mutated yeast infection.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 02:09 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 17, 2022 02:09 PM (W5wR3)
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This is the story of California, and is why California is irrelevant in terms of national electoral politics. It's a rotten borough and the Democrat will win. Some local races in that state might matter, but the state itself is completely irrelevant.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (t0OGg)
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It's also why CA wants to be earlier in the primary calendar. They know that they've hit the ceiling in terms of their effect on national politics, and with them potentially in the start of losing representation in Congress, it's one of the only avenues they have to actually increasing their influence anymore. They did lose one seat in the 2020 census, and they know they should have lost more.
If they can be first, then they can get someone like Newsom through the primaries easily. Having to send him out to interact with the hayseeds in Iowa is going to kill his candidacy like it killed Kamala's.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:09 PM (LvTSG)
Setting aside the obvious question - which is "what is a woman, anyway?" - how many women (however they are defined) are "independent?" How much of the electorate is it? The movement is interesting, but is it sizable all things considered?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:09 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (T4C1j)
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They've been avoiding debates, while the Biden admin pushes through desperate policy after desperate policy in hopes of stirring up the base.
Jesus fucking christ, there's absolutely nothing that they could do that would satisfy you that they are in a panic. Everything is an op. Everything is somehow proof that they've won it all.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (T4C1j)
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You have a much different definition of "panic" than I do. They are pushing full speed ahead with the exact same far-left agenda that the country is supposedly revolting against. That's not "panic" to me.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (lf83v)
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Well, that's unpossible . The best plush toys in the GOP told us for decades that focusing on social issues was Not The Hill To Die On©.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: Sarahw at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (g1vnC)
Any time I see you go, it make me feel bad
Red red wave, you make me feel so fine,
Monkey pox him Rizla pon the sweet.
Posted by: Prog Tears
I'm deeply sad that I recognize the song. That fucking thing was played over the PA every fucking day in high school for months.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (IyrhE)
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (9yUzE)
It took moving the "acceptable or not" line to bodily mutilation of pre-teens.
Karen would rather have cheaper food and gas.
Not sure that's a win, but here we are.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (UqahJ)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 17, 2022 02:11 PM (sX1BW)
She was right in 2018. Sadly, I think when the votes are all "counted" she will be right again.
Posted by: Orson at October 17, 2022 02:11 PM (mcqqR)
Of course, all this is dependent on what the D's do to fight it. And I don't believe anything is out of bounds to them. Anything.
The other bad news here is that I think, assuming a big win, the Rs may be facing total disaster if they go into their usual "Let's leave all the damage the Ds have done in place, and send fundraising letters." Which is what they always do. Maybe, just maybe, McCarthy will see the light here. Much as he dislikes the idea, he may realize he has to do something. Mitch never will. We need to replace him.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 17, 2022 02:11 PM (TgBWG)
I dunno. The voters of Iowa take their first in the nation responsibility very seriously. Just ask them.
/sarc
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:11 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (Zf0+a)
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This is what their donors want. They want to go whole hog on crazy social issues that obviously don't mesh with the people like abortions for all, cutting off the kids' dicks, and no miniature American flags for anyone.
These positions have to get so toxic that no matter how much money they spend, Democrats can't win with them. That's how this will end, when Democrats turn away this donor money. So, never.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:11 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 17, 2022 02:11 PM (X++p7)
Marist and Quinnipiac are the other two Northeast colleges that have recognized polls.
NYT usually hooks up with CBS News.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:11 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 17, 2022 02:11 PM (Ma7Lf)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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This doesn't apply to particular races which have their own dynamics but overall in US politics, your party's fate at the ballot box is set by presidential approval in May of the election year. Under 48 percent, you lose seats, and as it declines lower than 48 percent, you lose more seats. By Gallup, Biden's approval rating was 41 percent in May.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:11 PM (CXr4y)
The media is doing all it can to make sure this doesn't happen though, by not pressing Hochel to have debates, as she'll get trounced on every issue.
Posted by: Rbastid at October 17, 2022 02:11 PM (/HQcE)
Posted by: The Democrats at October 17, 2022 02:12 PM (T0jQj)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 02:12 PM (PWvcU)
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Hey what can go wrong if we just change the definition of marriage?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 17, 2022 02:12 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (iFTx/)
To me, I am just wondering if they will go whole hog here. My money is that they will. I will be happy to be surprised.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 17, 2022 02:12 PM (CwQXo)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 17, 2022 02:12 PM (8oyo2)
Remember when it was rayciss to talk about crime...then some Republicans did and it led to R mayors in even absurdly leftwing places like NYC?
And more recently most CA voters...CA VOTERS...voted to ban gay marriage.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:12 PM (ESjRY)
You're so cute. We'll still be here, fully funded and unwavering in our ambition
F You
Posted by: EPA Dept of Energy Supply Destruction at October 17, 2022 02:12 PM (UqahJ)
Abortion is an abstraction for them so they'll never really vote on it. Their husbands 401k? That's a real issue with tangible consequences.
Posted by: MJ at October 17, 2022 02:12 PM (zwDuR)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 17, 2022 02:13 PM (lTGtQ)
Despite, or because?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:13 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 02:12 PM (PWvcU)
I sure do hope so
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 02:13 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (lf83v)
Beautiful plumage. Sad day for music and fans.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2022 02:13 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 02:13 PM (KY22T)
Posted by: The Democrats at October 17, 2022 02:13 PM (T0jQj)
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:13 PM (CXr4y)
Also, "Yamiche" sounds like the scientific name for a mutated yeast infection.
Posted by: GnuBreed
I had a bad case of Yamiche Alcindor once but Penicillin cleared that right up.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2022 02:13 PM (bJxw1)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (lf83v)
Fifth Element, hands down.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 17, 2022 02:12 PM (8oyo2)
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Does anyone else want to negotiate?
Posted by: jc at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (N1WXz)
Setting aside the obvious question - which is "what is a woman, anyway?" - how many women (however they are defined) are "independent?" How much of the electorate is it? The movement is interesting, but is it sizable all things considered?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:09 PM (t0OGg)
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I've long thought that "independents" were a myth. Maybe at one time they existed, but the country has been too polarized for too long for any material number of people to still waffle on GOP vs Dem. I think it's fashionable to identify as "independent" to try to muffle the stench of party affiliation. So you get a lot of voters pretending they have no party bias or affiliation.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (iFTx/)
The normies don't like being preyed upon, who knew there would be accountability for pro-crime policies?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (y0Q2d)
Earth to Yamiche and Claire: The only segment of the population where abortion is the number #1 issue are AWLF, gender studies majors, and single black females. Pretty much every place else it is understood that legal abortions are available on a state by state basis and if your state restricts them, one is available a few hours away in another state. All you Yamiche and Clarie fans, knock yourselves out and make it a long weekend with a dinner, a show, and an abortion. For the rest of us, getting that lunatic out of office, so we can afford to live, is what matters.
The news about the "blue surge" over the summer was a political campaign in an attempt to suppress the looming red wave and hopefully reign it in. It never was going to work and this latest round of polling is showing that. Never bought that BS for one second.
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (3rD2r)
boobs
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (V6f9+)
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He has been dead since July.
Posted by: Puddinhead
Dusty Hill still dead at age 72?
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (bJxw1)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (n+4am)
I wonder if their new-school-year children just happened to mention the weekly Drag Queen contest or the new LGBTQ+ History Month for October.
Posted by: Chuck C at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (xttsV)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (PWvcU)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (906pl)
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You have to pay Ace extra to get into the champagne room
Posted by: Eeyore at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (TgBWG)
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Yes, a political monoculture makes CA irrelevant nationally. But they export Democracy, and now CO is irrelevant nationally. Other states are being colonized.
Their enormous population is another avenue... a few more of these turnarounds, and you're suddenly in charge of a powerful bloc of "nationally irrelevant" states.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 02:15 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: The Democrats at October 17, 2022 02:15 PM (T0jQj)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:09 PM (LvTSG)
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California might care about that, but the Party doesn't, at least not for presidential races. California lost a seat and should have lost at least two, maybe three.
Thanks to the Great Colonization that kicked off in the aftermath of the tech wreck and during the housing bubble, the Left has flipped several states. They picked up Colorado and that will likely be a permanent flip. They picked up New Mexico and will probably keep it. They will likely get to keep Nevada, too. That's 9, 5 and 6 electoral votes, respectively. They lost 1 and picked up 20. +19 is pretty good. Even if CA lost 3 EVs, it's still +17.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:15 PM (t0OGg)
Abortion is an abstraction for them so they'll never really vote on it. Their husbands 401k? That's a real issue with tangible consequences.
Posted by: MJ
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Often it is a vote regarding their daughters and also college educated women are much more concerned about because colleges tie abortion as the keystone of women's rights.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:15 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (V6f9+)
My hero.
*fistbump*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: MJ at October 17, 2022 02:12 PM (zwDuR)
I disagree- their self-satisfaction for "supporting women" by advocating for child murder is overwhelming, plus it's way easier to understand abortion (either for or against) than to get educated on fiscal policy , trade, taxes and its implications.
Posted by: LASue at October 17, 2022 02:15 PM (Ed8Zd)
Very wierd.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:15 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 17, 2022 02:16 PM (X++p7)
Ditch Biden BEFORE the elections hoping that all the glowing "First Female President!!" coverage rubs off on the Democrats?
Ditch Biden AFTER the elections so they can blame everything on Republicans being too racist to work with the "First Female President!" to "fix" our problems?
Posted by: JoeF. at October 17, 2022 02:16 PM (mR6Gs)
They want career-path politics; safe, nice.
Not anger and ugly.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 17, 2022 02:16 PM (Zf0+a)
And child mutilation. Elections, like war, are motivated by three factors: hunger, economic poverty, and child mutilation. And porous borders...
I'll come in again.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:16 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 17, 2022 02:16 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: Eeyore
"There is no sex in the champagne room."
-- Chris Rock
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2022 02:16 PM (bJxw1)
Posted by: Eeyore at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (TgBWG)
Moose out front shoulda told me!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 17, 2022 02:16 PM (906pl)
Posted by: torabora at October 17, 2022 02:16 PM (JH1tc)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (V6f9+)
My hero.
*fistbump*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)
:fistbump:
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:16 PM (V6f9+)
Posted by: Rbastid at October 17, 2022 02:11 PM (/HQcE)
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Upstaters love joos from Longuyland. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 17, 2022 02:16 PM (y0Q2d)
Officer Begs School Not to Unlock Doors for Armed Men, But Vice Principal Did the Unthinkable.
https://is.gd/Ltx9yh
Posted by: Ciampino is gobsmacked at October 17, 2022 02:17 PM (qfLjt)
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He has been dead since July.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 02:13 PM (KY22T)
Well, he's really dead, then.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 02:17 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall
To me at least, that depends. Which way are they going?
It matters.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2022 02:17 PM (bJxw1)
Posted by: Cheri at October 17, 2022 02:17 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM
But our O.G. Electric Vehicle Guy (Hi, Joe!) has told us time and again that voting is useless and that we are all doomed. I'm so confused.
Posted by: Electric Vehicle Guy at October 17, 2022 02:17 PM (xttsV)
Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 02:17 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (V6f9+)
My hero.
*fistbump*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)
:fistbump:
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:16 PM (V6f9+)
*double finger point*
Posted by: Isaac, your bartender at October 17, 2022 02:17 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (iFTx/)
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:: raises hand ::
That's me. I despise the GOP and am not a Party member, nor do I declare myself as such.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:17 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 17, 2022 02:18 PM (+bONN)
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He has been dead since July.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 02:13 PM (KY22T)
Well, he's really dead, then.
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We found a voter!
- Dem Voting Strategist
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 17, 2022 02:18 PM (sX1BW)
C'mon man!
The economy is roaring!
Ice Cream tastes great!
FOX has me at 47%!
Little Girls love me!
Posted by: Auspex at October 17, 2022 02:18 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: Linda Sina at October 17, 2022 02:18 PM (Yrvb3)
HA! Just kidding. You won't get that either. Somebody has to pay for all the money we'll send to Ukraine. And more planes, more bombs and more bullets for IRS agents.
Posted by: Gormless Old Prats at October 17, 2022 02:18 PM (PWI4f)
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He has been dead since July.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 02:13 PM (KY22T)
Well, he's really dead, then.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 02:17 PM (yHsuS)
Really and most sincerely dead.
Posted by: Munchkin ME at October 17, 2022 02:18 PM (4I/2K)
Crime is big. I've mentioned quite a few cases here that have occurred in my area. I know there's some homeless camp behind a local grocery store that appears to be the epicenter of the assaults.
I went to the state liquor monopoly store today which is within a couple hundred feet of the camp. Nobody in the store except the clerks. As I'm paying some old disheveled white dude wanders in and gets right in line behind me. Protip: If they're buying just a couple ounce bottle that's what they do - no need to shop. Seconds later a disheveled looking, hoody wearing black dude gets immediately in line behind him.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 17, 2022 02:18 PM (y3pKJ)
Never mind.......... I will go back to Saving the Gay Hamsters as my number one issue this election..
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 17, 2022 02:18 PM (X++p7)
Thanks to the Great Colonization that kicked off in the aftermath of the tech wreck and during the housing bubble, the Left has flipped several states. They picked up Colorado and that will likely be a permanent flip. They picked up New Mexico and will probably keep it. They will likely get to keep Nevada, too. That's 9, 5 and 6 electoral votes, respectively. They lost 1 and picked up 20. +19 is pretty good. Even if CA lost 3 EVs, it's still +17.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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That is a static analysis. The black swan event is realignment and historically we are overdue. The New Deal coalition more or less went kaput in 1968 and the competitive era of 1968-2020 has been considered its own era of dealignment from any majority party. Due to foreign and domestic crises (some forced by the regime, others not), there is a considerable chance that we are at the brink of a realigningment because the current Uniparty is simply not capable of governing anymore.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (PWvcU)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (LvTSG)
Are politicians stupid, craven, liars or all three?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:17 PM (t0OGg)
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The only party I hate more than the GOP are the Dumocraps
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (iFTx/)
independent Woman swing by 36 points the GOP!
but...abortion! but....Climate change!...but....transgenderism!...but...Hunter Biden's 9" cock!
Posted by: AOC & the Squad at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (X++p7)
Just 2 days ago, he was in Nether Providence along with U.S. Rep. Mary Gay Scanlon; the Delaware County Council Chair; a state representative, and the local District Attorney, Jack Stollsteimer. Reportedly, a large photo of a Wawa store hung behind the podium and "once Fetterman appeared," he joked about of his love of the county institution and discussed his stroke. (Emphasis added.) Oct 7th, Sens. Bob Casey & Sherrod Brown stumped with John Fetterman at a rally in Erie, PA. Again, little publicity statewide.
Dave in Fl. has been outstanding.
Posted by: Lola at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (NIYa7)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Sarahw at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (g1vnC)
I live in this district, and I concur. Vega's toast due to completely avoidable errors.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (cvNl1)
Posted by: sidney at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (Uy/WF)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (9yUzE)
I should probably invest in millstones and rope.
Posted by: pookysgirl, looking for the nearest ocean at October 17, 2022 02:20 PM (XKZwp)
I will vote straight Republican her in NV. Some of our candidates are not great, but the Dem is worse.
Posted by: Czech Chick at October 17, 2022 02:20 PM (haWye)
Obligatory Laurie Dhue on a stripper pole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-DdDEoc1rI
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2022 02:14 PM (n+4am)
**checks off another item on bucket list**
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 17, 2022 02:20 PM (sjdRT)
Especially New Mexico. The Dems have this state by the balls and they run it like a mafia, The current governor, expanded the state budget by 40% over the last 4 years to "invest" in salaries and pensions for government workers, and free college tuition to name but 2 payoffs. In return we got and 49th place education system that and economy that ranks 44th nationally.
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 17, 2022 02:20 PM (3rD2r)
Posted by: portlandon at October 17, 2022 02:20 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (LvTSG)
Are politicians stupid, craven, liars or all three?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (zhLdt)
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I think they are rulers of small fiefdoms and will throw anyone and everyone under the bus to extend their power by another few metaphorical inches. Otto Preminger's Advise and Consent, in particular, shows this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:20 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (LvTSG)
Are politicians stupid, craven, liars or all three?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM
(zhLdt)
Yes
Posted by: JoeF. at October 17, 2022 02:20 PM (mR6Gs)
Fifth Element, hands down.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 17, 2022 02:12 PM (8oyo2)
I love that movie.
I am a meat popsicle.
Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (gmo/4)
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He has been dead since July.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 02:13 PM (KY22T)
Well, he's really dead, then.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 02:17 PM (yHsuS)
Really and most sincerely dead.
Posted by: Munchkin ME at October 17, 2022 02:18 PM (4I/2K)
Pockets already gone through for loose change?
Posted by: Miracle Max at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (1Nzxv)
Posted by: Chevy Chase at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (+bONN)
Very wierd.
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Don't feel bad, I got a story here that said Ann Wilson had died. She had but it wasn't the Ann Wilson of Heart I grew up with.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (KY22T)
We will see on November 9th, but none of the available data supports your belief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (X1znj)
Yes.
Abortion forever has been on eof those third rail topics, but the bottom line is that the great majority of Americans believe that it should not be utterly legal at all times and places. The biggest group of Americans are fine with banning abortion past the first trimester. A large minority is fine with banning it for EVERYTHING except rape and the life of the mother.
I'm in the smaller group that cannot support murdering a helpless, innocent baby for the evil of its father's act.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (Ivdso)
This new version has plenty.
Posted by: E. A. Blair at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (6b60r)
Posted by: Lola
Smart move by Fetterman's campaign staff. Next to Brown, Fetterman seems warm, intelligent and gracious - by comparison.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (bJxw1)
Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 02:22 PM (us2H3)
Do the Dumocraps look scared to you? Ignore what they say. Watch what they do. They are double- and tripling-down on every terrible policy that supposedly will kill them in November, up to and including their child sexual perversions.
It’s almost like they know something we don’t. I think they do know something: they plan on stealing 2022 just like they did 2020. How are we gonna stop them? The GOP practically cheered on the steal in 2020.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 01:59 PM (iFTx
Agree. This is also my fear. And the cheating will be in-your-face blatant.
And they know there will be nothing we can do about it. No standing.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 17, 2022 02:22 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:22 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (CXr4y)
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Time will tell. There appear to be black swans all over the place, but the first thing these people do when they take over is pervert elections. That makes shaking things out much, much harder. The political realignment will have no bearing on the political system if the people have no means to put their candidates into place. "We're in charge, the people be damned" is the operating model for the Democrats and for big chunks of the GOP. That will still eventually end, of course, but the mechanisms will be much, much worse than elections.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:22 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 17, 2022 02:22 PM (lz5hY)
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Sure. Read "A Conflict of Visions." This is the endpoint of the unconstrained vision of humanity.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 02:22 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: deadrody at October 17, 2022 02:22 PM (kYmXc)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (Ivdso)
I'm still trying to figure out why they did that whole "remastering" thing and seemingly replaced Frank Beard with a drum machine.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Chevy Chase
Is that our top story tonight?
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2022 02:22 PM (bJxw1)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 17, 2022 02:22 PM (X++p7)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 02:23 PM (oINRc)
I haven't seen ANY polling on Hung Cao vs. Jennifer Wexton in the 10th. Have you?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:23 PM (eOEVl)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-DdDEoc1rI
Laurie Dhue is hot, and 6' 3", oof
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 17, 2022 02:23 PM (M+Lyo)
Its not that this is based on evidence or data, its a deep mistrust of the available data and having been burned too many times in the past, particularly 2020, to trust anything electoral any more.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:23 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (LvTSG)
Abortion is the top issue with upper middle class women--nearly all Democrat and a majority of GOP-- who want and expect their offspring to rule.
The last thing they want is for precious Emily to have to take Tyrone's baby to term, or Ethan to knock up the maid.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 17, 2022 02:23 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2022 02:23 PM (IyrhE)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 17, 2022 02:22 PM (X++p7)
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The Senate GOP ain't getting any conservative justices on any court over the next two years, even with a mythically large majority.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Elric Blade
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True independents, the last I checked, were about 5-10 percent of the electorate. Soft partisans about half of each party's coalition. But, often the soft partisans are the ones most affected by negative information about their own leaning party id and often sit out midterms.
Part of that is baked into the cake of two party government (see Downsian analysis of elections). Massive continuous crises and a government that can effectively respond to them can forge a new dominant majority for a time though. This is what is called a realignment. During the 30's, for example, the rural agrarian populist Democrats held key positions in Congress due to seniority and often fought bitterly with new urban Democrats until the 70's where the urbanites won.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (X++p7)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (Ivdso)
And not to be unsympathetic, but "date rape" frequently is morning-after regret, not rape.
Posted by: LASue at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Hear! Hear!
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (bJxw1)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (lz5hY)
You were never funny, ever.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2022 02:23 PM (IyrhE)
Fletch
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (V6f9+)
Posted by: Cheri at October 17, 2022 02:17 PM (oiNtH)
Add in pissing off allies, dumping billions into Ukraine and now threats of nuclear war.
Posted by: Beartooth at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (IP9GB)
Posted by: Electric Vehicle Guy
Family's home in Florida survived the hurricane only to have it burnt to the ground when their electric vehicle in the garage caught on fire which ended up demolishing the home. God has some sense of humor.
Posted by: Cheri at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (oiNtH)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-DdDEoc1rI
Laurie Dhue is hot, and 6' 3", oof
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 17, 2022 02:23 PM (M+Lyo)
She's got legs
And knows how to use them
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (4I/2K)
It's all about the 401K. Those spa treatments are pricey yo. And let's not even talk about the price of Malbec lately
Posted by: kallisto
What's Malbec ?
Posted by: JT at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (3rD2r)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (PWvcU)
I think its him playing but they sweetened and boosted the drums with echo etc to make it sound like bombs going off. I like the sound on Six Pack, but it wasn't necessary, his work was perfectly fine.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (Ivdso)
Since you imply Ohio, can I just say that JD Vance's YouTube ads fckg suck? Tim Ryan's ads brag about supporting Trump and don't even mention his party affiliation. Vance just calls him "Taxing Tim Ryan" which is weaksauce. I imagine Cocaine Mitch is paying for a beltway consultant to make Vance's ads, and beltway insider Repubbos cannot think of another issue besides taxes to run on.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 02:25 PM (9yUzE)
This shift is in the polling company, not the real country.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 02:25 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2022
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Like Franco, continuing his valiant fight to remain dead
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 02:25 PM (J2vNu)
We will see on November 9th, but none of the available data supports your belief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (X1znj)
There you are. You tell em Dave!
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:25 PM (BJKQV)
This new version has plenty.
Posted by: E. A. Blair at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (6b60r)
Was it . . . roomy?
Posted by: Hannbal Lecter at October 17, 2022 02:25 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 02:22 PM (us2H3)
Dusty's cousin Hank won "West Texas Propane Salesman of the year" 6 times.
Posted by: Rbastid at October 17, 2022 02:25 PM (/HQcE)
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 02:25 PM (eoQWY)
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But, we'll be back to believing the polls in summer of 2024.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:26 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 17, 2022 02:26 PM (9yUzE)
I'll believe Uncle Festtermans chances are gone when they drag Obama out to campaign with him.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 17, 2022 02:26 PM (y3pKJ)
Why the need for infant butchering?
Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 17, 2022 02:26 PM (7NKxb)
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I agree with you but I think it's an abstraction that's totally eclipsed when they can't get the LV bag they want or can't go the Caribbean with their girls for a quick vacay.
Posted by: MJ at October 17, 2022 02:26 PM (zwDuR)
Posted by: Furious George at October 17, 2022 02:26 PM (CkFy6)
My hair. I have no need of any outside encouragement for balls deep.
Posted by: Kamala Harris at October 17, 2022 02:26 PM (EHcEg)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 17, 2022 02:26 PM (cPemv)
I think it would have been bigger had
A) Roe vs Wade not been overturned
B) Trump had made better endorsements in these Senate races.
Posted by: Blago at October 17, 2022 02:02 PM (PwNLq)
If a smaller electoral victory is the price that must be paid for lessening, slightly, the greatest evil perpetuated in this country - and I do not except slavery - then I am willing to pay that price.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:26 PM (zhLdt)
I don't think that has any relation to their electoral prospects, Democrats are also acting like they think they are going to lose. How can both of these things be true?
Because unlike wildly optimistic predictions of "Democrats out of power for a generation" and the kind of stuff Carville was saying about Republicans not that long ago, voters are fickle and have short memories. They get mad at whoever is in power and throw them out after a while.
Democrats understand this, Republicans do not. Democrats know they'll be back in power in a little while, Republicans fear its their only shot every election. Democrats know they can ram through whatever insane crap they want, no matter how much people hate it, because even if they are punished for it by being thrown out of power... they'll be back in a few election cycles.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:27 PM (Ivdso)
A: From panels like the one linked where "abortion comes up 90% of the time."
Asking, "are they acting worried/scared?" is the wrong question.
They have intentionally cut themselves off from honest data. They don't know what they don't know. And, now they are getting a knowing.
None of them were polling in July/August. All of them were relying upon the media--chock full of "gas is down, economy issue is fading; abortion is still top issue" reporting.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 17, 2022 02:27 PM (Zf0+a)
It's all about the 401K. Those spa treatments are pricey yo. And let's not even talk about the price of Malbec lately
Posted by: kallisto
What's Malbec ?
Posted by: JT at October 17, 2022 02:24 PM (T4tVD)
It's a red grape variety in South America from which wine is made in. But that's not important right now.
Posted by: Dr. Rumack at October 17, 2022 02:27 PM (4I/2K)
It’s almost like they know something we don’t. I think they do know something: they plan on stealing 2022 just like they did 2020. How are we gonna stop them? The GOP practically cheered on the steal in 2020.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 01:59 PM (iFTx
While i wouldn't put it past them to TRY, I think there are just too many races to try to fix with cheating.
I think the doubling down on the madness is just that --madness. They are grabbing with both hands everything that's not nailed down
Posted by: JoeF. at October 17, 2022 02:27 PM (mR6Gs)
the unassailable logic of #Woke NEA
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 02:27 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 02:27 PM (NlFlr)
It's a suburban woman/gay man thing. You wouldn't understand.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
$20, same as in town.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2022 02:27 PM (bJxw1)
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Just Wondering at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM (+bONN)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 01:59 PM (iFTx
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They are flipping the heck out. I don't know what metrics you're looking at, but they're incapable of a course correction because they pushed all their chips on ABORTION. The ads are cut, the mailers have been printed and posted.
It's locked in, so all they can do is try to juice the base as best they can.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM (llXky)
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM (BJKQV)
Now I think everyone here should be familiar with my contempt and dismissal of polls, but its not impossible that this poll is one of those late October "we gotta get the polls closer to the reality" shifts reflecting what was generally true in the past but ignored by polling companies paid to give specific results.
Time will tell.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM (Ivdso)
If the margin is closer to 3 points, then the rounded value would be 3, not 4.
That the NYT (or maybe the poll people) does not understand how rounding works is completely unexpected.
Posted by: Tar Bae at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM (wgRY3)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:23 PM (eOEVl)
I've not, despite actually digging for actual data a week or so back. Maybe Dave in Fl knows something?
I know the press calls the Vega and Cao races the 'most competitive' races in Virginia.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 17, 2022 02:29 PM (cvNl1)
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM (RHGPo)
And he is 100% correct
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:29 PM (BJKQV)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 17, 2022 02:26 PM (cPemv)
Best line in the movie wasn't uttered by his character: The family truckster, you think you hate it now, just wait until you drive it.
Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 02:29 PM (gmo/4)
Do the Dumocraps look scared to you? Ignore what they say. Watch what they do. They are double- and tripling-down on every terrible policy that supposedly will kill them in November, up to and including their child sexual perversions.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
1990s Bill Clinton pivoted in response to mistakes, but those kind of politicians are long dead. The current set of ideologues *are* running scared and doubling down is the only way they know how to behave. They want to get their perversions in and hope that inertia in the GOP will let them get into the system and be impossible to remove.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 02:29 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 17, 2022 02:29 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM (BJKQV)
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Agreed. People need to accept good news when they get it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:29 PM (llXky)
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Any chance he will defund Crapperdick?
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 02:29 PM (KY22T)
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Damn straight. Now get out there and vote for Lisa Murkowski, you filthy ice encrusted, salmon smelling, gun toting rubes.
Posted by: Cocaine Mitch (R-CCP) at October 17, 2022 02:30 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 17, 2022 02:04 PM (JOtiF)
Nah. 90% sounds like bullshit. 91.753%. not that's sciency.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:30 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 17, 2022 02:30 PM (cPemv)
We will see on November 9th, but none of the available data supports your belief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (X1znj)
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I don't disagree that the polling numbers support a red wave. But with all due respect, polling numbers are just things some randos tell a guy interrupting their dinner. It's speculation. I trust things that have already happened. And what already happened is a blatant, in-your-face steal of the presidency, at least three Senate seats, at least one governorship, and dozens of House seats. I see little reason why this won't happen again. As I said above, who is gonna stop them?? You think they're not gonna just keep counting in Philly until Ogreman wins??
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Not necessarily. The politics of the Dems is based on the big cities that they rule but the economy, crime, education, transportation, etc. affect the majority of the electorate. Essentially, we have a Uniparty elite that more or less believe in the same things--these are the staffers, donors, and activists that have been miseducated in college. It is more likely we end up getting a Chavez or a Pinochet simply to strike down the corrupt oligarchy than a revolution. Coups are never popular for long.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:30 PM (CXr4y)
>>This shift is in the polling company, not the real country.
Happens every election although it does appear to be getting more blatant.
Two pollsters who don't play this game, Trafalgar and People's Pundit.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 02:31 PM (ZLI7S)
I am betting they go full crazy, which will be glorious to see.
Posted by: Czech Chick at October 17, 2022 02:31 PM (haWye)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2022 02:31 PM (IyrhE)
I haven't seen ANY polling on Hung Cao vs. Jennifer Wexton in the 10th. Have you?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:23 PM (eOEVl)
We were redistricted this year from the 10th to the 11th, which means my vote against Connolly is going to be completely useless.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 17, 2022 02:31 PM (906pl)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM (llXky)
Freshly squeezed abortion juice. Ugh.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 02:31 PM (yHsuS)
Don't forget, this Thursday is the super team of Biden & Fetterman. Should be a barn burner! It will be but not for the reasons they hope.
Posted by: Cheri at October 17, 2022 02:31 PM (oiNtH)
1) Who will play the part of Peter Jennings in the media to conclude that "the American people threw a temper tantrum tonight"?
and 2) Who is going to tell GOP leadership that crime/immigration/economy are the issues consuming peoples' thoughts -- not 1/6 or improper use of pronouns?
Posted by: red speck at October 17, 2022 02:32 PM (gS3OW)
https://tinyurl.com/23v46fnx
Woman (contributing writer at Boston Globe) claims she would have died at age 11 under current TX law. She claims to have had at least six abortions despite having never been pregnant. In reality she apparently has had several dilation and curettage (D & C) procedures, not because of pregnancy, but because of a medical condition that caused abnormal uterine bleeding. D & C for hemorrhage is a standard medical procedure and is not an abortion by any definition of the term. She is either plug stupid or blatantly lying. Or both.
I used to think the female reproductive system was a deep dark mystery or like a foreign country to men, but apparently it also is to women.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2022 02:32 PM (kXYt5)
Posted by: That NLurker guy
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Endorsements are one of the more useless things in politics as are celebrities spouting off. A few yutes are affected by such but most people never find out about it.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:32 PM (CXr4y)
Either she's (he's?) only talking to people who have "shout your abortion" tshirts on, or he's (she's?) counting "I don't care about abortion, I can't pay my bills" as "abortion coming up".
Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 17, 2022 02:32 PM (BlLaE)
But I'm hopeful that Masters might pull out a win based on the enthusiasm for Lake.
There really isn't a contrast in this election like Lake v Hobbs.
Lake is confident, polished, smart, attractive, and effective.
Hobbs is weak, undisciplined, flighty, ugly, and talks in a baby girl voice.
Posted by: MJ at October 17, 2022 02:32 PM (zwDuR)
Posted by: JT at October 17, 2022 02:32 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: Lola at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (NIYa7)
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Yes, he has.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 17, 2022 02:32 PM (sWM8x)
I am betting they go full crazy, which will be glorious to see.
Posted by: Czech Chick at October 17, 2022 02:31 PM (haWye)
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These sorts of races knock out moderates, especially at the lower levels of governance like state.
So many progressives are going to have won their safe seats while running abortion ads all the time, and they'll still be in power. Yes, it's going to get worse, especially with their insane donor class.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:33 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 02:33 PM (uLr+K)
Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (kOpft)
Assuming the Republicans take at least one side of Congress, I hope for 1 thing... an actual budget. Shut down the government, if necessary. In fact, I'd prefer that it shuts down but give us an actual budget.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:33 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: The Paolo at October 17, 2022 02:33 PM (flINI)
1) Who will play the part of Peter Jennings in the media to conclude that "the American people threw a temper tantrum tonight"?
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No one will have the ear of the American people as that era is gone, gone, gone. Half the population already discounts everything in the media anyway--by becoming overtly partisan, they end up only as cheerleaders for their faction in government.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:33 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
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You're ignoring that the environment in which that happened was pandemic-justified emergency decrees that are almost everywhere no longer in place.
You're also looking past the fact that those elections were stolen in a handful of big cities. It's hard to steal hundreds of congressional districts, especially since redistricting.
Put simply, dumping 200,000 ballots in Detroit is a lot easier than holding Congress against a national wave.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:33 PM (llXky)
If it is at ALL close we are looking at the high 200s for R Representatives.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:34 PM (ESjRY)
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Because they are about revolution and civil war, and not elections.
Losing the elections will inspire them to civil war, which they want.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:34 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: TheInverseAgonist at October 17, 2022 02:34 PM (yA1mk)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:34 PM (Ivdso)
A family member had a D & C done at a local Catholic hospital. As long as it's not for abortion, it's not a problem.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 17, 2022 02:34 PM (I2/tG)
Involuntary Misogynist - don't wanna hate the wimminz, but they keep electing Dems and commies (birm).
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 17, 2022 02:34 PM (peWy1)
she's just doing what commies have done forever, which is lie through her teeth
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 02:34 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: An American at October 17, 2022 02:34 PM (FjlUt)
2014 was...+5 I think?
+7 would be...wonderful
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:34 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Czech Chick at October 17, 2022 02:31 PM (haWye)
I'm betting they'll use executive orders to push their agenda and the administrative state and the DOJ to go after Republican politicians.
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:34 PM (BJKQV)
SUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKEEEEDDDDDDDDD Dick.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2022 02:31 PM (IyrhE)
Now THAT'S a movie review.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Barack Obama at October 17, 2022 02:35 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2022 02:35 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Cheri at October 17, 2022
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Which one will be playing with lit matches in the hayloft?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 02:35 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: vic /s at October 17, 2022 02:35 PM (mZwKe)
Posted by: TheInverseAgonist
What about the one's that like their vodka right out of the freezer?
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (3rD2r)
The only problem this election is the '12 men on the field' rule. They're going to have to exceed the number of voters to win. Then claim that the 12th guy you can plainly see is a figment of your imagination.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (y3pKJ)
Right. They cannot really afford to pay for and man a cheat in every congressional election across the country. Its just not viable. But they can do so in key elections in specific areas, targeted carefully to ensure keeping the Senate (or effectively so, like in 2020), and keeping the most hated candidates out of office.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,
SUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKEEEEDDDDDDDDD Dick.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2022 02:31 PM (IyrhE)
Well...he did get an anal probe and sang a little Andy Williams.
But tastes vary, I find Fletch to be endlessly quotable.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (V6f9+)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: vic /s at October 17, 2022 02:35 PM (mZwKe)
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Oh, gosh...imagine if all domestic policy were like this...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (t0OGg)
Are enough Republicans running to flip the state even if they all win? Useless fucks.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:33 PM (llXky)
= = =
Challenge accepted.
Posted by: Democrat Poll Workers at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (AD14M)
Crime and drugs are #7 on Republican lists, and #4 with the public. A spread of just 3. It is #16 with the dems, a spread of 12.
Look at the spreads for each issue and you see the dems are wildly out of alignment.
Posted by: Inspector kemp at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (+DS2f)
We will see on November 9th, but none of the available data supports your belief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2022 02:21 PM (X1znj)
There you are. You tell em Dave!
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:25 PM (BJKQV)
It's a self defense mechanism...
As a Bills fan, Indians fan, Browns v1.0 fan, I completely understand. You won't let yourself believe in the "possible".
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: The Paolo
As long as it's from a tree.
Same way as I love my coffee. Ground up and in the freezer.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (NlFlr)
Election Night 1994, I listened to the election coverage on the insane far-Left radio station in Berkeley. The commentators sounded as if they were going to hang themselves on the air, as the Red Wave rolled across the country.
With social media, it is going to be much, much better than that.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (I2/tG)
According to you, that was impossible - especially given its proximity to DC.
My take is that the tech overlords who actually pulled it off are going to sit this one out because governors just aren't that important - and if they fail, the DOJ won't be in charge of the investigation but angry red state AGs.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (+1Ie+)
Posted by: AA at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (DTZDT)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (V6f9+)
Spend the next two years campaigning on how the Republicans are destroying America and democracy!
Posted by: Fool Otto at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: Count de Monet
"Everybody Wang Hung tonight!!"
- 1986 calling
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (bJxw1)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (8oyo2)
Pretty high wave in the Great Lake State, I'm afraid.
Posted by: clutch at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (9UmRs)
Posted by: ... at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (3n7z/)
Posted by: John Cocktostin at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (lf83v)
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You mean like he is doing in Georgia for Warnock right now?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (X1znj)
Thought they all wanted their kids to be Trannie
Posted by: Skip's phone at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (P4ODk)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (OgrpQ)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (V6f9+)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,
SUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKEEEEDDDDDDDDD Dick.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2022 02:31 PM (IyrhE)
Well...he did get an anal probe and sang a little Andy Williams.
But tastes vary, I find Fletch to be endlessly quotable.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (V6f9+)
I didn't see the movie though I read the books. Good stories.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (4I/2K)
yep JoeF
progs gotta prog.
raiding is what they do
while no one is stopping them they will go hog wild. it doesn't really mean anything. they'll do that until someone physically stops them. they're like "urban yutes" in that way.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (V6f9+)
That's the funniest part. Abortion activists kept saying stuff like "it shouldn't be left up to 9 judges, the federal government should stay out of my womb!"
Well honey, that's just what happened. You got exactly what you wanted.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:19 PM (CXr4y)
Plus if hispanics and women and blacks are really shifting to any extent, the Dem's baseline is in real trouble and all calculations need to be redone.
Another issue is the old style inner city fixer generation is dead or dying, and I don't know that the zealot leftist generation can swing the same coalition. To see the Bernie / progressive revolt of the last few years and now minorities, it could well be that these new folk can't keep their troops in line going forward, which will impact even fraud.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (eoQWY)
Privately I'm very disappointed with Sen Warnock. Mike's cock is bigger...and uncut.
Posted by: Barack H Obama at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (uz3Px)
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Social sciences in general always deal with uncertain information and bad data. However, it is always able to be analyzed probabilistically using even biased sources. History, candidate information (you can rate candidates on whether they are a 'good' candidate or not pretty well), and other information can play a part. Essentially, the Dems are limited in cheat to whatever the registered voter base is and very liable to challenged if exceeding that in votes other than a few precincts in those urban areas. So, you can actually do the math to determine whether a candidate in PA for example can 'beat the cheat'.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Dr Rosen Rosen at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (vN+oL)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (V6f9+)
You're also looking past the fact that those elections were stolen in a handful of big cities. It's hard to steal hundreds of congressional districts, especially since redistricting.
Put simply, dumping 200,000 ballots in Detroit is a lot easier than holding Congress against a national wave.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:33 PM (llXky)
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I agree that we will likely retake the House for the reasons you mention. But I am pessimistic about the Senate also for the reasons you mention. There are big, heavily minority, deep-blue cities in PA and GA that will just keep counting -- no matter what -- until Ogreman and Worncock win. Covid emergency or no covid emergency. Ditto for NY governor.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (iFTx/)
Add on to that, for many, abortion laws didn't change much anywhere, so it was another "cry wolf" by the democrats...
And some women probably were finally willing to admit they were voting R...and single women do tend to move in packs...
Posted by: Nova local at October 17, 2022 02:38 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (Zf0+a)
In fairness, the sudden narrative that, when you think about it, nuclear war is actually a good thing is in the last three months... right?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:39 PM (zhLdt)
Thought they all wanted their kids to be Trannie
Posted by: Skip's phone at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (P4ODk)
But to grow up a trannie you can't abort them. Blue on Blue conflict.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 02:39 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:39 PM (V6f9+)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (DTZDT)
Agree. He had his moments in that one.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2022 02:39 PM (4I/2K)
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Malcompetence? Not to mention Discompetence and Miscompetence ... all forms of Soulless Incontinence. confidence
Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 02:39 PM (lNr4i)
Fire! BAD!!
Ice cream! Put out fire!!!!
Posted by: Festerman at October 17, 2022 02:40 PM (EHcEg)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:37 PM (llXky)
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My take is the GOPe let 2020 go. I also assert that there was a fundraising crisis in late January 2021. Mitch went from "Trump is dead" to "Trump has a place in the party, of course, why would you ask me that?" over the course of about a week.
So, Trump essentially made it known that he was going to control the money as much as he possibly could. He was going to fundraise himself and do everything he could to make is so that the RNC couldn't use his name without permission.
That changed how the GOPe and RNC approached elections from a legal perspective. They fought in VA like they refused to fight anywhere in 2020. They put up token resistance in 2020, but 2021 was an actual fight. I think it'll fight more like 2021 than 2020 in 2022.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:40 PM (LvTSG)
Congratulations Ted! keep up the good work!
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Me? Drug free for 237 days.
Posted by: Brittany Griner at October 17, 2022 02:40 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:39 PM (zhLdt)
If that were the trigger foreign policy would likely be higher on the overall radar. Instead its all domestic.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 02:40 PM (eoQWY)
The LIVs want to LIV. But they are seeing the bills go up and up and up.
You can't hide what Biden and co are doing when you see it every time you pay a bill or go to the store.
But the Dems got greedy...literally.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:40 PM (ESjRY)
>>As a Bills fan, Indians fan, Browns v1.0 fan, I completely understand. You won't let yourself believe in the "possible"
I'm a lifelong Jets fan and yesterday they went into Lambeau and kicked the ever living shit out of Rogers and the Packers.
Sometimes good things happen.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 02:40 PM (ZLI7S)
this is so true
the kids are lazy and incompetent
they can light fuses that's about it
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 17, 2022 02:40 PM (w0NJk)
I think the Dims because they know that they're going to lose are going all YOLO on their creepy destroy America policies. Whatever they pass now is guaranteed locked in for two more years.
Biden will veto any legislation the Reps might pass, so I think the Dims are going to play the waiting game here and rely on the MSM.
I expect the MSM to constantly blame the Reps for anything that goes wrong, even Biden's hokey-pokey style nuclear war gambit.
And more important, they will blame the Reps for nothing happening, as in "See, you voted for MAGA and look!!! Inflations even worse!!! The dollar has collapsed!!! ETC!!!"
Which is why the Reps need to turn into pipe-hard bastards. If the Turtle was one quarter to legislating, knife-shivving genius some people think he is, he could definitely use the red wave as motivation to get some legislation over Biden by co-opting some Dims.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 17, 2022 02:40 PM (KLPy8)
Congratulations Ted! keep up the good work!
Posted by: AA
He's stable.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (NlFlr)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: ... at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (3n7z/)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (DTZDT)
https://www.outlookindia.com/ international/us-president-joe-biden-brings-back -trump-era-title-42-policy-to-expel-venezuelan -migrants-news-230404
Posted by: Nova local at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (w0NJk)
I think the LIVs aren't seeing lefty activists talking positively about nuclear war.
If Biden lights one off, either first or in response to Vlad they'll notice though.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (ESjRY)
I think that Dems will repeatedly push for bailouts or other handouts to "fix" things and Republicans will reject them. Then the president and the MSM will blame Republicans for intentionally hurting the poor and prolonging the economic agony to make Biden look bad.
The fight for control of Congress is about over, get ready for the fight for the 2024 presidential election. It's gonna be ugly.
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (BJKQV)
Posted by: Tar Bae at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (wgRY3)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (bJxw1)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (DTZDT)
"Commanche Indian"
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (V6f9+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:36 PM (Ivdso)
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But doing that means they will have to significantly scale up their operations from last time.
I mean you get that the Democrats didn't steal the election, right? Their operatives are too dim for that - it was Zuckerberg and his ilk. Those guys have almost nothing to gain from who is governor of Michigan and since they own Cocaine Mitch, flipping the Senate isn't that much of a problem for them.
You know what's a problem? Angry state AGs pursuing criminal charges. Remember that last time the AGs in the states that they targeted were either Dem or GOPe. Those people are up for election as well, and it's going to be a lot harder to print 200,000 ballots with a half dozen offices filled in than just one X for Biden.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (llXky)
Joe Biden is demanding to speak to Don Henley personally. garf garfg
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (MLrvz)
.. just wait until they look at the Biden Administration
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (RHGPo)
Sometimes good things happen.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 02:40 PM (ZLI7S)
Yes, yes they did...and Aaron Rogers looks OLD.
Might be that stupid fucking hair cut, but I think not...
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (+bONN)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (wPLaW)
Another issue is the old style inner city fixer generation is dead or dying, and I don't know that the zealot leftist generation can swing the same coalition. To see the Bernie / progressive revolt of the last few years and now minorities, it could well be that these new folk can't keep their troops in line going forward, which will impact even fraud. Posted by: Oldcat
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What you are seeing is that the Dem Party, despite its rhetoric, is the insider party and as such reflects the interest of party donors and activists--which are those of the college class. The GOPe dinosaurs, by and large, as Ace has shown, want the approval of those insiders and hate populists with a passion. The newer GOP members are turning away from corporations and toward constituents and this risks the entire grifter structure of GOPe incorporated--the campaign staff, professional party types, and well heeled donors. So, what will happen, wait and see after Nov.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (T4C1j)
A bigger problem for the Dems is that, should they start losing power, the groups within their coalition will start killing each other.
The Dem party only works as long as they can loot from the other side.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: ... at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (3n7z/)
You really think they will be able to do better this year?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (X1znj)
what can be done?
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 02:43 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 02:43 PM (V6f9+)
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:43 PM (BJKQV)
Now...they might not release it...but they'd have it.
I feel pretty sure the only plan the Republicans have right now is a corporate tax night and for the incoming majority leader some recreational penis at casa de Luntz.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:43 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:43 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 17, 2022 02:43 PM (bkf/+)
>>Might be that stupid fucking hair cut, but I think not...
Guy has more hairdos than Trey Gowdy.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 02:43 PM (ZLI7S)
The announcement comes a day before analysts had expected Beijing to publish some of its weakest quarterly growth figures since 2020 with the economy hobbled by Covid-19 restrictions and a real estate crisis.
.. sounds like the Biden Administration
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 02:44 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 17, 2022 02:44 PM (lz5hY)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at October 17, 2022 02:44 PM (vN+oL)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 02:44 PM (NlFlr)
--John "Lump" Fetterman
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:44 PM (Ivdso)
His latest ad is him sitting on a couch with his wife. Saying when we disagree we have a glass of wine. They kiss after clinking wine glasses together.
Its sickening. He's a cuck, married to a wine mom. I'd feel sorry for him, but he's trying to wreck havoc on my state.
Posted by: I never watch ads, but saw a sporting event live recently at October 17, 2022 02:44 PM (tSNhz)
Posted by: ... at October 17, 2022 02:44 PM (3n7z/)
Posted by: bill in arkansas
Baby formula is in Mexico.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 02:45 PM (NlFlr)
Part of the freakout that led to the steal in 2020 was seeing their lead with black men crater and hispanics flirting with a 50/50 split.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:45 PM (ESjRY)
Many prefer to surrender preemptively so they can get out of the parking lot before the rush.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:45 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: ... at October 17, 2022 02:45 PM (3n7z/)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at October 17, 2022 02:45 PM (vN+oL)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:45 PM (Ivdso)
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Yeah. What's up with that? Serious drunen haircut/Deliverance shit going on there.
Ya done fucked up A-A-A-ron.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:46 PM (lf83v)
.. then I must have about 10X average retirement savings
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 02:46 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:46 PM (ESjRY)
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some of these have been fixed, I think but others haven't. The key was for them to steal the senate via AZ, WI, GA, PA, and a couple of others. Those are the big gets.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 02:46 PM (MLrvz)
Turlock was American Graffiti, right?
Posted by: clutch at October 17, 2022 02:46 PM (9UmRs)
The Dem party only works as long as they can loot from the other side.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (zhLdt)
Communism is all fun and games until someone winds up with an ice ax protruding from their noggin.
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:46 PM (BJKQV)
When me and my wife disagree, we each have an iron goblet full of infant's blood. Then we murder a couple of people and fly to a rape island.
Pretty standard stuff for older couples.
Posted by: Bill at October 17, 2022 02:47 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:39 PM (zhLdt)
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"The nuclear war will be transitory and boost the economy!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 02:47 PM (Na2pn)
Turn off EBT cards for a day and the cities burn.
Turn them off for a month and I don't think Democrats would ever get elected, anywhere, again.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:47 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Clair McCaskill, at October 17, 2022 02:47 PM (grpr/)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and
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Michigan's GOP has trained thousands of new poll-watchers and GOP allies have aggressively been suing for access to the polls. That terrain is going to be heavily contested this time.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:47 PM (llXky)
Posted by: H Badger at October 17, 2022 02:47 PM (n/0Nw)
You really think they will be able to do better this year?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (X1znj)
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Please see my comment above. I expect to win the House for the reasons you and others have mentioned. It's everything else I'm skeptical about. You can't have a big red wave if all you win is the house. I don't see how we stop the cheat in the big, deep-blue cities that will decide the Senate and governorships.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:47 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:30 PM (CXr4y)
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Right, I think we're saying the same things. The ruling class is incompetent and destructive but they've also taken over and perverted every traditional mechanism. The typical result of that is eventually a coup or a revolution and the typical result of *that* is a dictator.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:48 PM (t0OGg)
.... okayyyy
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:45 PM (Ivdso)
This is where quoting someone without context is really really not good. At least quote what he said next.
Posted by: ... at October 17, 2022 02:48 PM (3n7z/)
Posted by: Minuteman at October 17, 2022 02:48 PM (LaNzR)
The Dem party only works as long as they can loot from the other side.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Even if they are in power, like California, the majority party inevitably fragments--see the kerfluffle involving the LA Council president resigning--Latinos in office versus gay white man with black adopted son.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:48 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022
Is he still uttering death threats against people of differing opinion?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 17, 2022 02:48 PM (eGTCV)
White upper class MARRIED women tend to be pro-life...
Posted by: Nova local at October 17, 2022 02:48 PM (exHjb)
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You're right. The turmoil in 1968 was driven by divisions between Democrats and not necessarily Americans. Americans disagreed on the issues, but Democrats rioted and killed and it was the unions and campus liberals of the Democrat Party behind it.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:49 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: ... at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (3n7z/)
If they got that, they would lose bigly. Because then there would be nothing to drive wymns groups to frothing madness over and their foot soldiers would start to fall away.
abortion, and guns too have to stay unsettled, its to useful for them.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 02:49 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
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We'd be lucky if they accomplished jack shit. They are more likely to actively sabotage efforts to reign in the demonic Dumocrap party.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (iFTx/)[/i
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All true. The problem is that how the incompetent GOP actually "governs" in control of congress will drive the abysmal approval of Congress down even lower and be a yoke around the neck of the GOP nominee in 2024, be it Trump or DeSantis. I fully suspect that to be the single greatest effect of the 2022 red wave.
Posted by: deadrody at October 17, 2022 02:49 PM (kYmXc)
"Vote for us and we'll bring EBT cards back from the evil racist Repbulicans!"
--Democrat politicians
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:49 PM (Ivdso)
*******
Arrrrgh! 'uttin' ah da Ritz!
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2022 02:49 PM (kXYt5)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 02:49 PM (DTZDT)
Axshually, they do have a plan. McCarthy announced it a couple weeks ago. Supposedly Newt helped craft the plan. The Commitment to America.
https://tinyurl.com/4u9y9823
Not sure how they plan to get this done with Biden in the WH but at least its something.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 02:49 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at October 17, 2022 02:50 PM (hafio)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (llXky)
Dana Lessen is angry, but she won't pursue Dems, I assure you.
Posted by: clutch at October 17, 2022 02:50 PM (9UmRs)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at October 17, 2022 02:50 PM (C1rbv)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at October 17, 2022 02:44 PM (vN+oL)
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I'm sure $5/gallon gas and the fact that they can't afford to eat at their favorite restaurant also had something to do with it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:50 PM (llXky)
His latest ad is him sitting on a couch with his wife. Saying when we disagree we have a glass of wine. They kiss after clinking wine glasses together.
Its sickening. He's a cuck, married to a wine mom. I'd feel sorry for him, but he's trying to wreck havoc on my state.
Posted by: I never watch ads, but saw a sporting event live recently at October 17, 2022 02:44 PM (tSNhz)
Almost every Dem in Ohio is running without saying they are Dems and how they oppose Biden. Anyways, I saw that ad and all I could think was "you just showed your wife as a Karen."
Posted by: WiNO at October 17, 2022 02:50 PM (EpDzw)
It's gotta be a turn-off for anyone that considers themself an "independent."
Posted by: Mr Gaga at October 17, 2022 02:50 PM (4ZE6o)
Posted by: Brittany Griner at October 17, 2022 02:40 PM (lf83v)
*claps*
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 17, 2022 02:51 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: deadrody at October 17, 2022 02:49 PM (kYmXc)
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Nah. Congress' approval is always in the toilet. It's, "Congress sucks, but my guy is pretty awesome." Every year. That why incumbency ends up winning races.
For the voting public, the "party in power" is always the party that controls the White House, a side effect of the imperial presidency.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:51 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:39 PM (zhLdt)
Also, how many have done the number of people significantly affected by covid / number of people significantly affected by the shot and come up with an answer not friendly to the Dems?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 02:51 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Sometimes it actually results in the bastards being thrown out of office if enough of the people have had enough. Romania is at one end of the deal, Ukraine (the original orange Revolution not the second), Philippine Islands, Argentina, and some others are examples where the baduns got chucked out.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:51 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 02:51 PM (dCxaZ)
It just got stupider after that, by leaps and bounds. Social Media did not steal the election. Zuckerberg was not shutting down the vote counting and locking elections watchers out, covering up windows, and trucking crates of ballots in the dead of the night. Zuckerberg "and his ilk" did not hire thousands of mules to fill voting drop boxes with ballots. That was Democrats and their operatives.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:51 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 17, 2022 02:52 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:51 PM (CXr4y)
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Those were revolutions. They got new governments and new governing systems as a result of it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:52 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 17, 2022 02:52 PM (lz5hY)
The Los Angeles city council fracas was only the start.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 17, 2022 02:52 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Brittany Griner at October 17, 2022 02:40 PM (lf83v)
Is Ms Griner is actually a man (and...I'm coming around to that position now) isn't it going to be really obvious when he comes back without the hormones for so long?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:52 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:51 PM (Ivdso)
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The Zuckerbucks sure did have an impact, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:52 PM (LvTSG)
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You mean on November 8th, and 3 a.m. on November 9th, and November 10th, 11 and 14th.
These are known as Ballot Harvesting Days.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:53 PM (lf83v)
And I'm voting against Connolly b/c I'm hoping for a REALLY big red wave...bringing 2 other votes against with me to the poll...
Posted by: Nova local at October 17, 2022 02:53 PM (exHjb)
The Lyft driver was black. A father driving to earn money to keep his daughter in college. Solid witness.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2022 02:53 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Skip's phone at October 17, 2022 02:53 PM (Ywbrn)
Posted by: Neel Yong from Portland, Oregan at October 17, 2022 02:53 PM (snpvX)
I basically pray every day for Putin to release current photos of him
would be amusing
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 17, 2022 02:53 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: East Bay Jay at October 17, 2022 02:53 PM (DePyg)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 02:52 PM (LvTSG)
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Less than a half-million dollars' worth of Russian ad buys flipped the 2016 election. Zuckerbucks were at significantly larger scale.
I don't make the rules.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:54 PM (t0OGg)
Sure, it enabled the Democrats to pay for the work that was done and slip the money to judges to get them to decide not to hear or rule against fraud cases. But that was done by Democrats, with the help of GOPe in all likelihood.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:54 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 02:54 PM (dCxaZ)
Example:
Secure the Border and Combat
Illegal Immigration
Fully fund effective border enforcement strategies, infrastructure, and advanced technology
to prevent illegal crossings and trafficking by cartels
Look hard. What word is missing? Hint; it's 4 letters long and starts with "w".
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:54 PM (eOEVl)
Well, Zuckerberg *is* a Democrat operative, just like SV's pet legislators are their operatives. It's just a Party.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 02:54 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: WiNO at October 17, 2022 02:50 PM (EpDzw)
It's the same way in WNY...in terms of no party affiliation being stated.
#chickenshits
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 17, 2022 02:54 PM (BgMrQ)
Using Zuckerberg's money and even some of his people.
And the absolute embargo on the Hunter/Joe corruption story did influence the outcome of the election. How much, hard to say, but they wouldn't have done if they didn't think it would help.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 02:54 PM (ZLI7S)
would be amusing
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She's the tallest mobik in Ukraine.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Bosk at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (v4L7Y)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:51 PM (Ivdso)
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Um, look up Zuckerbucks and get back to me.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (llXky)
Statues most people in the city don't even remember or know had a name, if they were even aware of them.
They could have gone with Spiders, but nOOOOOOooo.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (Ivdso)
A bigger problem for the Dems is that, should they start losing power, the groups within their coalition will start killing each other.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland
Any trolling that we do on commie cocksucker Donk sites needs to have this goal in mind. Don't argue the conservative line, question the loyalty and commitment of their fellow travelers.
Sow discord in their ranks.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (n+4am)
There was a video in Instagram I saw of Griner hooping shirtless.
I’m 99% Griner is a dude. No scars in the chest area and even looks like a skinny guys chest.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (YglAn)
NottheBee -
Has the media told you about the MASSIVE protests happening all over Europe right now?
No, our media hasn't reported on this.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (R8uWY)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 17, 2022 02:42 PM (wPLaW)
That's the effect of the new trans lobby moving in on the man-hating feminists in the universities and elite institutions. Its Stalin versus Trotsky again with jobs and power on the line. And men in dresses are better at power politics that actual women, more ruthless.
So, again, in older days these would have been papered over and both sides mobilized to elect dems that would have done little for both groups. Now, one side is getting purged and no matter who wins their side is weaker.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Nova local at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (exHjb)
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Posted by: ... at October 17, 2022 02:45 PM (3n7z/)
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He must have set up an elaborate dead man's switch that would trigger the release of where her bodies are buried in case of being Arkancided or death from Post-Traumatic Hyoid Disorder -- because I think he would have been dead for a long time now.
As Old El Rushbo used to call her: "The most cheated on woman in the world."
Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (Na2pn)
So, yes, make it harder for them to manufacture votes, but they're still going to do it.
/doom
Posted by: Harbinger of Doom at October 17, 2022 02:56 PM (T0jQj)
Who were Democrats working for the Democratic party. Saying the Democrats didn't steal the election is just silly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:56 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:56 PM (lf83v)
Brittany, now that you are back in the US, you need to shave and schedule a prostate exam.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 02:56 PM (NlFlr)
*******
Arrrrgh! 'uttin' ah da Ritz!
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2022 02:49 PM (kXYt5)
I shouldn't laugh at this, but I do. Every time.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 17, 2022 02:56 PM (BdMk6)
A US recession is effectively certain in the next 12 months in new Bloomberg Economics model projections, a blow to President Joe Biden’s economic messaging ahead of the November midterms.
The latest recession probability models by Bloomberg economists Anna Wong and Eliza Winger forecast a higher recession probability across all timeframes, with the 12-month estimate of a downturn by October 2023 hitting 100%, up from 65% for the comparable period in the previous update.
Lol...still hasn't hit yet, but guaranteed now. Sometime after November 2022...
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 17, 2022 02:56 PM (ZJlxc)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 02:56 PM (R8uWY)
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM
Quite possibly the most factual endorsement I've ever seen.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 17, 2022 02:57 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:54 PM (Ivdso)
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No, it was done by Zuckerberg to keep his allies in power.
Seriously, those were not the traditional "Dem machine" operatives, which is why Biden's team was caught flatfooted. None of them knew the scale of the op because they compartmentalized it.
Core Dem leadership is utterly incompetent - Big Tech ran that op.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 02:57 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 02:57 PM (R8uWY)
Curb wasteful government spending that is raising the price of groceries, gas, cars, and housing, and growing our national debt
McCarthy delenda est.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:57 PM (eOEVl)
I’m 99% Griner is a dude. No scars in the chest area and even looks like a skinny guys chest.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (YglAn)
_____________________________
Dude, please. I gotta eat in a few hours! LOL.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 02:57 PM (iFTx/)
In fact she reminds me of my lovely wife...though Ms Griner is unfortunately circumcised.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at October 17, 2022 02:57 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: The Democrats! at October 17, 2022 02:57 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: H Badger at October 17, 2022 02:47 PM (n/0Nw)
Huge tracts of land!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2022 02:58 PM (4I/2K)
It's that time of year again: Medicare Enrollment
Could the commercials being any more patronizing, or ubiquitous.
It's a fight for eyeballs now between Camp Lejeune victims, and Medicare
#whoyagot
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 17, 2022 02:58 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 17, 2022 02:58 PM (lz5hY)
1) based on a religion so it transcends reason and logic
2) religious people are always banded together against a rival faith. Muslims will kill each other over trivial disagreements but will ride side by side to slaughter the infidel.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:58 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:54 PM (eOEVl)
Wimp?
Posted by: clutch at October 17, 2022 02:58 PM (9UmRs)
https://tinyurl.com/4u9y9823
Not sure how they plan to get this done with Biden in the WH but at least its something.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 02:49 PM (ZLI7S)
It's pretty weak sauce because they likely won't do any of it. Some of it is the standard GOPe pablum. They had the entire Fed gov't and did nothing about healthcare. Ditto with the border. Also, what do the Feds have to do with hiring local police? Saw nothing about nuking the FBI/DOJ. They might has well announce "WE BE BETTE' THAN THEM DEMS."
Posted by: WiNO at October 17, 2022 02:58 PM (EpDzw)
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:58 PM (CXr4y)
I’m 99% Griner is a dude. No scars in the chest area and even looks like a skinny guys chest.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (YglAn)
I am less inclined just because an actual dude would be crushing women to a greater extent. Look at what the swimmers and runners do, even when they throw games. Never heard of Griener before this.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 02:58 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 17, 2022 02:59 PM (wptpM)
You mean on November 8th, and 3 a.m. on November 9th, and November 10th, 11 and 14th.
These are known as Ballot Harvesting Days.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 02:53 PM (lf83v)
Let's all meet under the ballot harvesting moon!
Posted by: Miracle Max at October 17, 2022 02:59 PM (1Nzxv)
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 02:59 PM (RHGPo)
The GOPe will spend less then the Dems but they won't stop deficit spending either.
The good news for them is LIVs blame the President for everything so...
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:59 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Fox News at October 17, 2022 02:59 PM (eRVYd)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 17, 2022 02:59 PM (cPemv)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2022 02:49 PM (kXYt5)
I shouldn't laugh at this, but I do. Every time.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 17, 2022 02:56 PM (BdMk6)
Biden: English speaking you trummmimprazure fuckermother?
Fetterman: Argle Bargle argel bregl
Biden: Listen Fat, I hear you !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 17, 2022 02:59 PM (M+Lyo)
The media is doing all it can to make sure this doesn't happen though, by not pressing Hochel to have debates, as she'll get trounced on every issue.
Posted by: Rbastid at October 17, 2022 02:11 PM (/HQcE)
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Not to mention that bitch AG in NY could lose (pray to God it happens).
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 17, 2022 02:59 PM (cMXNt)
Watched Das Boot over the weekend.
I would recommend it as mandatory.
Posted by: Bosk at October 17, 2022 02:55 PM (v4L7Y)
and The Sands of Iwo Jima. Just watched it last night again. Damn.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:54 PM (eOEVl)
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"wine?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (t0OGg)
Mass arrests by the FBI? Fire bombings of every pro-life assistance center, GOP party and elected official's office, and Christian church outside of black neighborhoods? Political assassinations?
Posted by: Gref at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (AMIL/)
I'm sure he/she did...
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (ESjRY)
Even assuming its a good plan and they have the slightest inclination of following through, the time to announce and run with that was like April.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (Ivdso)
well he's not the only dude in the WNBA first of all
honestly maybe he's just not a great player? he does a lot of drugs, that we know, so he's a chill stoner guy. not Michael Jordan or anything!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (eGTCV)
I think that Dems will repeatedly push for bailouts or other handouts to "fix" things and Republicans will reject them. Then the president and the MSM will blame Republicans for intentionally hurting the poor and prolonging the economic agony to make Biden look bad.
The fight for control of Congress is about over, get ready for the fight for the 2024 presidential election. It's gonna be ugly.
Posted by: 29Victor at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (BJKQV)
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That's my contention as well. Democrats (in or out of power) are going to force the economy down the shitter just so they can blame Republicans for their own disasters. Then somehow use that to sweep to victory in 2024.
It's a plan worthy of Pinky and the Brain, with less "Zort!"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (YIVH2)
I’m 99% Griner is a dude. No scars in the chest area and even looks like a skinny guys chest.
I am jealous because she, it, her, him, them, they has a better mustache then me ....
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (snpvX)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:58 PM (Ivdso)
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Nope.
Check out the Lebanese Christians allied with Hezbullah. Or the Most Catholic King of France siding with the Protestants to take on Austria and Spain.
Heck, the leftist factions in Spain couldn't even wait for the Civil War to end before killing each other wholesale.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (R8uWY)
Posted by: Voter theater. at October 17, 2022 03:01 PM (/5Who)
So, yes, make it harder for them to manufacture votes, but they're still going to do it.
/doom
Posted by: Harbinger of Doom
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That is because the left coast went to the proven fraudulent mail ballot system along with vote harvesting. Arizona's was contaminated in 2020 and quite a bit has been done to stop some of the obvious ways to cheat. I think only Colorado has adopted that system since.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 03:01 PM (CXr4y)
Of course they stole it but they did it with a lot of help from Zuckerberg, some of his operatives and other social media types. Zuckerberg and his wife gave Democrats nearly $500 million much of which was used to put unsupervised dropboxes all over Democrat areas. One of his hand picked operatives took over much of the election process in Wisconsin.
Information is crucial during an election and they control the flow of a lot of it and $500 million buys a lot of Democrat nefarious tricks.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 03:01 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (eGTCV)
It's one of Alinsky's rules that never got published.
Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2022 03:01 PM (XselA)
1) based on a religion so it transcends reason and logic
2) religious people are always banded together against a rival faith. Muslims will kill each other over trivial disagreements but will ride side by side to slaughter the infidel.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:58 PM (Ivdso)
Its not "a" religion its many religions. and we can see how nasty religious warfare can get.
And religious people don't always band together. France allied with the Ottomans against the Hapsburgs in the 1500 or 1600s
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 03:01 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 02:59 PM (RHGPo)
WTF does that even mean?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 03:01 PM (Zz0t1)
"Our new continuing resolution only raises spending by 87% as much as the Democrats! Donate now to help us fight against Joe Biden's reckless spending!"
--Republican Party email
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 03:01 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 17, 2022 03:01 PM (lz5hY)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 03:01 PM (R8uWY)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 03:01 PM (uLr+K)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:54 PM
Wang?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 17, 2022 03:02 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 03:02 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Floridachick at October 17, 2022 03:02 PM (Uk/+L)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 17, 2022 03:02 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: Joey Biden at October 17, 2022 03:02 PM (QYPq3)
Politico: Kinzinger: Not clear what will happen if Trump refuses to testify
Cheez-n-rice, numbnuts, this is not hard to figure out. You'll continue to sit around with your thumbs jammed up your ass for another 2-1/2 months until your term ends and you are asked to vacate your office and leave the building.
Fall on your knees and thank your Creator for having a functioning autonomous nervous system, because that is as far as tour giftedness goes.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 17, 2022 03:02 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 03:03 PM (R8uWY)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 02:54 PM
Wang?
I'm beginning to think you guys aren't really trying.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 03:03 PM (eOEVl)
And that was for?
Political power.
And the historical norm is as I stated it no matter what exceptions you pluck from history.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 03:03 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (T0jQj)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 03:02 PM (eOEVl)
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That's hilarious. He will be more circumspect because he got a talking to about it. Meta already *is* a monopoly and it doesn't matter at all. The FTC is on Team Monopoly and has been for a long time. Big Tech is immune to monopoly laws.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (t0OGg)
Remember when Newt did the Contract With America?
It was announced 6 weeks before the election in 1994, pretty much exactly the same time as this one. That worked out pretty well.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (ZLI7S)
It's a plan worthy of Pinky and the Brain, with less "Zort!"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 17, 2022 03:00 PM (YIVH2)
its a very, very tall order to get the people to blame Congress over the President for economic and/or foreign affairs issues. Especially if they propose something and it gets vetoed or slow-rolled.
The Congressional GOP may be bad at PR, but so far Biden and the Dems are far worse at it.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:51 PM (Ivdso)
Not my point. The missing context made it look like he was saying the election wasn't stolen.
Posted by: ... at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (3n7z/)
It's pretty weak sauce because they likely won't do any of it. Some of it is the standard GOPe pablum. They had the entire Fed gov't and did nothing about healthcare. Ditto with the border. Also, what do the Feds have to do with hiring local police? Saw nothing about nuking the FBI/DOJ. They might has well announce "WE BE BETTE' THAN THEM DEMS." Posted by: WiNO
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Better King Log than King Stork.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)
Philly is always politically interesting. Shapiro will be a big factor, as he is statewide. Then there's Johnny Doc, the Philly powerhouse, with federal charges against him. His lawyers, from Scalon's (she represents PA's 5th District) husband's law firm, have - reportedly - asked to quit the case. And then there's his brother Kevin, a Democratic Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice, but with little to nothing thus far that may be hinky & brother associated.
Guess we'll see.
Posted by: Lola at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (NIYa7)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (cMXNt)
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM (RHGPo)
Window lickers unite!
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (VwHCD)
Just get rid of the mascot entirely and leave the background like Land O Lakes did. Keep the land, eliminate the Indian.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (Ivdso)
___________
MAGA Ken,
A lot of Andrew Cuomo's people here in the Capital District want her gone for what she did to him.
I think she is in trouble. I could be wrong, but a lot of people detest her.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 03:05 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at October 17, 2022 03:05 PM (qZdIZ)
I'm optimistic, but the GOP can still lose. The best way to do it is to start in with the same old disingenuous blather that says nothing, and reminds the voters why they hate the GOPe.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 03:05 PM (eOEVl)
First clue: the cutesy stripper name. Trannies almost always pick a name that comes from a pole dancer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 03:05 PM (Ivdso)
Wife went to a playoff game last week Cleveland v. Tampa Bay.
They showed a picture of Sherrod Brown on the Jumbotron.
Everyone booed. Loudly.
Posted by: I never watch ads, but saw a sporting event live recently at October 17, 2022 03:06 PM (X81ac)
The CDC figured out what caused all the bad and unscientific pronouncements during Covid and it's Trump.
I think Trump has moved from Lefty's head to the entire body, down to their filthy toenails. Lefty needs an exorcist, not the NYTs.
Posted by: East Bay Jay at October 17, 2022 03:06 PM (DePyg)
Posted by: Chuck C at October 17, 2022 03:06 PM (xttsV)
https://is.gd/Z5BSgG
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)
Holy shit, it IS a man.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2022 03:06 PM (VwHCD)
#whoyagot
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 17, 2022
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Lessee, we've had Jimmie "JJ" Walker, Joe Namath, and even William Shatner hawking these Medicare supplement plans. Somebody new (i.e., old) showed up the other day for one program; I can't hink who.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 03:07 PM (J2vNu)
but that's just me. I don't like that if Biden had actually not fucked everything up, the gop and the electorate would be ok with the full on fascism the left is doing right now.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 03:07 PM (MLrvz)
I'm beginning to think you guys aren't really trying.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 03:03 PM
So we're wong?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 17, 2022 03:07 PM (a3Q+t)
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That's hilarious. He will be more circumspect because he got a talking to about it. Meta already *is* a monopoly and it doesn't matter at all. The FTC is on Team Monopoly and has been for a long time. Big Tech is immune to monopoly laws. Posted by: Joe Mannix
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The down market is more likely to affect what Zuck is doing. He has lost paper worth recently more than a lot of billionaires whole fortunes. Fakebook is also under a two way pincer attack from Apple and Google in ad dollars--that is likely to accelerate during economic downturn and scarcer corporate ad spending. Plus, the Metaverse right now is proving to be Second Life redux and a huge money sink for Meta.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 03:07 PM (CXr4y)
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Consider whether the middle class--excluded from but paying for every prior "help for the poor"--will have an appetite for this ploy.
You're not poor, you can't afford food, you don't want a handout, and the Dems are ... demanding handouts for the poor.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 17, 2022 03:07 PM (Zf0+a)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 02:41 PM (ESjRY)
Didn't Neil deGrasse Tyson, one of THE oracles of SCIENCE, say that a few tactical nukes were no biggie?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 03:07 PM (zhLdt)
https://is.gd/Z5BSgG
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)
we like tits here at AOS, but not those kind
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 17, 2022 03:07 PM (M+Lyo)
https://is.gd/Z5BSgG
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)
Holy shit, it IS a man.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2022 03:06 PM (VwHCD)
Well so he is.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 03:08 PM (eoQWY)
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yeah, tucker made fun of this a few weeks back on the first "blame trump for the vaxxines" trial balloon that went up.
no one is saluting that flag being run up the flagpole.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 03:08 PM (MLrvz)
____________
Chuck Woolery?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 03:08 PM (lf83v)
Didn't Neil deGrasse Tyson, one of THE oracles of SCIENCE, say that a few tactical nukes were no biggie?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 03:07 PM (zhLdt)
Putting the ass in Tyson.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 17, 2022 03:08 PM (+1Ie+)
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 03:07 PM (CXr4y)
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Yup, that too. He has way less hypothetical wealth now than he did then.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 03:09 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 03:03 PM (Ivdso)
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You used the term "always," which was objectively false.
If you're now going to say "well, if they can profit politically" then that undermines your entire point because the various Dem factions can and will sell each other out to profit politically.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 03:09 PM (llXky)
Absolutely true. They have several areas they don't give a crap about and big tech and entertainment are two of the biggest. Why? My guess is they either think it doesn't matter who is in charge of them, or they get huge dump truck fulls of cash to overlook these sectors.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 03:09 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 03:09 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 17, 2022 03:09 PM (cPemv)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 17, 2022 03:09 PM (kFrCu)
I'm optimistic, but the GOP can still lose. The best way to do it is to start in with the same old disingenuous blather that says nothing, and reminds the voters why they hate the GOPe. Posted by: Archimedes
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Most people are retrospective voters that punish the in party rather than prospective voters believing what a party pushes out. The 1980 slogan for the GOP in Congress was 'Had Enough' and a Tip O'Neill lookalike running a car out of gas ad. GOP gained twelve Senate seats to take the majority and over 20-25 seats in the House.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 03:10 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 03:05 PM (eOEVl)
The best way to avoid that is to purge the GOPe from the leadership ranks of the party.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 03:10 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: gnats local 678
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Zero Hedge is okay on economics and some foreign issues but pretty shitty on political coverage.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 03:11 PM (CXr4y)
You're right, I retract the always and replace it with "historically the greatest percentage of the time" added to "because we're talking about politics, using examples where people band together to get more power politically is irrelevant to the discussion."
because if Democrats lose tons of power and align with Republicans to retain power, nothing has been changed or harmed about the Democratic Party. They have not fractured or been destroyed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 03:11 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: That's pretty freaking bad at October 17, 2022 03:11 PM (aA8DL)
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 02:28 PM (RHGPo)
Window lickers unite!
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2022 03:04 PM (VwHCD)
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"You have nothing to lose but your panes!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 03:11 PM (G8dTy)
Majority of women voters are responsible people and can take care of themselves. Abortion is another aspect of the internationalize of women and they resent it. They know it's not choice for them but control by others.
Let the Democrats talk, it's a loss for them.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 17, 2022 03:12 PM (6WsnZ)
AMERICANS BLAME BIDEN AND THE FED FOR INFLATION
55% of Americans blame Biden for inflation – including 42% of Democrats.
58% are not confident in the Biden administration's ability to keep inflation at bay.
Americans are worried about the Fed: 74% think the Fed will cause a recession.
84% of voters think the US is in a recession now or will be in one by next year.
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 03:13 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 03:10 PM (CXr4y)
That was surely a disaster, but most of that was a pro-Reagan anti-Carter coattail effect. It flushed out a lot of crap - one of my college roommates had been a senate Page for a bit and was exulting in the heads being collected - but the next big shift in Congressional politics was the South deserting the Dems because of liberalism.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 03:13 PM (eoQWY)
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I told you I was going to teach Republicans how to win
_Donald Trump
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 17, 2022 03:14 PM (6WsnZ)
I always thought the progressives had to pick & well place him politically during B's administration. It's only unraveled a bit with Fetterman suffering the stoke. But if FJB's around, and his son, Beau, was also still in government following a stroke, it stands to reason this administration would be required to push Fetterman.
Posted by: Lola at October 17, 2022 03:14 PM (NIYa7)
Just get rid of the mascot entirely and leave the background like Land O Lakes did. Keep the land, eliminate the Indian.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Funny, I always thought that the Donks and woke types were friends to the First Peoples, now you tell me that they want to eliminate them.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2022 03:14 PM (n+4am)
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Posted by: The Dark Lord at October 17, 2022 03:26 PM (5cMUX)
Hugs and kisses,
Piper
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Posted by: MaureenTheTemp, Ultra Dark MAGA at October 17, 2022 02:06 PM (rWFyW)
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Well RCP did say they were re-evaluating how polls get rated in their aggregation.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 17, 2022 03:36 PM (xWZcb)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (sX1BW)
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Justice Alito concurs.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 17, 2022 03:37 PM (xWZcb)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 02:15 PM (t0OGg)
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Joe - Joe - Joe
Nevada is flipping red. The hispanics have voted on closing down Vegas during covid. They have indicated they weren't pleased. I'm struggling to find any but the craziest leftist polling saying anything different.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 17, 2022 03:44 PM (xWZcb)
Posted by: Don at October 17, 2022 03:48 PM (Q7knO)
You idiots gave us Biden , because Trump was too mean .
Go eff yourselves.
Posted by: Gobagoo at October 17, 2022 04:40 PM (p6YZo)
then it all appears legit... to them.
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Funny, I always thought that the Donks and woke types were friends to the First Peoples, now you tell me that they want to eliminate them.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2022 03:14 PM (n+4am)
******
I want my Indian back.
My butter package just looks bare.
I'd even settle for a spirit animal.
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