First-World Problems...

Ah...the trials and tribulations of an old house. That's a steam valve on a 90-year-old radiator and, amazingly enough, it still works! For certain definitions of "work." As many of you know, the valves are sort-of-adjustable, so the steam warms each radiator in the desired order. Ideally the coldest room of the house has the fastest valve so it gets steam the quickest. And the radiators nearest the thermostat should probably get steam more slowly, otherwise the thermostat will detect the set temperature before the rest of the house is warmed up.

At least that's the plan.

But they are old and sticky from years of hard water (my town is famous for hard water!) and thousands of heating and cooling cycles that have done who-knows-what to the metal.

So, you say, "Hey Dildo, what are you, an idiot? Just swap out the valves for the good modern ones that are easy to adjust!"

Except, I have nightmares of cracking off the valve inside the radiator, or even worse, cracking the body of the radiator. And all of them are built into the walls...not one is free standing.

I could just hand the problem off to a plumber, but that would be admitting defeat, and I hate that! Plus, each radiator is several hundred dollars to replace, so I think I will just suffer the almost unendurable agony of rooms that are one degree apart!

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM

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Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 02:00 PM (xhxe8)

2 Works as long as parts are corrosion free

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 02:02 PM (xhxe8)

3 really?

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 09, 2022 02:02 PM (3CCua)

4 Oh, wise guy

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 02:02 PM (xhxe8)

5 Pulled the thread out from under me

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 02:03 PM (xhxe8)

6 Knock, knock. Does this thing work?

I like steam punk.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 09, 2022 02:03 PM (AiZBA)

7 i have never understood the dark magic that is steam thermostat valve technology..

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 09, 2022 02:04 PM (3CCua)

8 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 02:05 PM (T4tVD)

9 There really is no heat like steam heat.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 09, 2022 02:05 PM (BFigT)

10 i have never understood the dark magic that is steam thermostat valve technology..
Posted by: BifBewalski at October 09, 2022 02:04 PM (3CCua)

Steam technology is like Greek Fire. Nobody knows how it works now.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 09, 2022 02:05 PM (AiZBA)

11 i nooded the corgies

flashed the victims

bunged the otters

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 09, 2022 02:06 PM (3CCua)

12 FWP: one of the ewe toob channels I follow which has been pretty reliable has missed one and is late-ish for another update. I have been forced to watch older vids.

Also, I would expect things made about 90 years ago generally to be more reliable than things made more recently, if for no other reason than the old stuff doesn't have a shitload of computer chips.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2022 02:07 PM (llON8)

13 That's the valve you tap with a wrench.

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2022 02:08 PM (/RDPd)

14 By Christmas will we be in 2nd World Problems?

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 02:08 PM (xhxe8)

15 First world my ass. We're now Venezuela. Just went to the grocery store and left with nothing. Just walked around looking at the prices. I don't keep too much attention on prices, but I know a few. The lettuce WAS 1 buck according to memory. Now its $3. Coffee WAS 8-9 bucks. Now $16

Posted by: Jimco Industries at October 09, 2022 02:08 PM (buTO7)

16 Also, I would expect things made about 90 years ago generally to be more reliable than things made more recently, if for no other reason than the old stuff doesn't have a shitload of computer chips.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2022 02:07 PM (llON

"If you only knew..." -- Any software engineer.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 09, 2022 02:08 PM (AiZBA)

17 I just updated the post to the version I thought I published.

I love this system...really!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 09, 2022 02:08 PM (XIJ/X)

18 It still amazes me that steam turns turbines. A nuclear power plant is just another way to boil water.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 09, 2022 02:09 PM (jwTnm)

19 i nooded the corgies

flashed the victims

bunged the otters
Posted by: BifBewalski

Busy huh ?

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 02:09 PM (T4tVD)

20 Aldi is your friend, Jimco. If you're near one.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 09, 2022 02:10 PM (yFgCz)

21
Busy huh ?
Posted by: JT

gotta give apple something to upload, amirite?

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 09, 2022 02:11 PM (3CCua)

22 the only real progess in society is in porn

Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2022 02:11 PM (us2H3)

23 I moved into my first "old" house after my husband died. It's been a very expensive education.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 09, 2022 02:13 PM (+4oV5)

24 the almost unendurable agony of rooms that are one degree apart!

When it hurts enough you'll buy a fan.

Posted by: DaveA at October 09, 2022 02:13 PM (FhXTo)

25 I enjoy the show This Old House.
They encounter some real head scratcher problems.
Ultimately it's all tool envy, because those guys have everything. Or know someone who does.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, partly cloudy, clearing in the afternoon at October 09, 2022 02:14 PM (jTmQV)

26 Interesting we are talking about old technology, heat especially, as Europe faces a long, cold winter without power.

My family cabin on Vashon Island had a fireplace with a cast iron insert downstairs and a pot bellied iron stove upstairs. Both had a teapot filled with water to keep it from getting too dry. Downstairs had enough space to put a couple pans on it for cooking. Power was especially sketchy when a storm would blow through and knock down power lines. We typically lost power 5-6 times a season sometimes for days at a time. Never skipped a beat.

Grandpa would scavenge wood from the beach, and occasionally find a big log that had escaped a boom towed by a tugboat to a mill. That would last an entire season!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2022 02:15 PM (U2p+3)

27 Grandpa would scavenge wood from the beach, and occasionally find a big log that had escaped a boom towed by a tugboat to a mill. That would last an entire season!
Posted by: nurse ratched

How did he move it ?

Wuz yer Grandpa Popeye ?

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 02:17 PM (T4tVD)

28 No kidding on the grocery prices. I placed a Wally online order and was going to order some of the junk food snacks dad likes too. Prices are about 3x what the box still has for recommended price so I decided he if he wants that junk food he can pay for it himself. Maybe they had some shipping built into their prices but it was crazy.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 09, 2022 02:18 PM (3cGpq)

29 Hiya LadyL !

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 02:18 PM (T4tVD)

30 Charles Murray found that the most intelligent people had a 12 degree plus or minus comfort zone

Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2022 02:19 PM (us2H3)

31 The secret to old steam systems is don't screw with it.

Posted by: Naked, sitting in a sensory deprivation room, smoking crack. at October 09, 2022 02:20 PM (QY+6a)

32 "Hey Idiot, what are you, a dildo?"

Hey, it works either way! Or it rhymes. Or something.

Posted by: Corona at October 09, 2022 02:20 PM (nakGR)

33 Prices in my AO isnt as crazy as some you guys. I'm thankful for that.

But it is noticeable. Don't know how some are making it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 09, 2022 02:21 PM (yFgCz)

34 JT,
He'd spot a runaway log with binoculars from the deck. Then hop in the aluminum skiff and tow it to the beach. Process it into smaller chunks with a chainsaw, then split it on the bulkhead.

Free wood!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2022 02:21 PM (U2p+3)

35 One degree difference between rooms? Luxury!
We have a room above the house with 7 4x5 glass windows, that room can be over 30F hotter than down stairs where the thermostat is set for 82F.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 09, 2022 02:23 PM (Dgmar)

36 Charles Murray found that the most intelligent people had a 12 degree plus or minus comfort zone
Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2022 02:19 PM (us2H3)

What does this have to do with dance studios?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 02:23 PM (xhaym)

37 He'd spot a runaway log with binoculars from the deck. Then hop in the aluminum skiff and tow it to the beach. Process it into smaller chunks with a chainsaw, then split it on the bulkhead.

Free wood!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2022 02:21 PM (U2p+3)

The Coast Guard should have paid him. He was clearing hazards to navigation.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 09, 2022 02:24 PM (AiZBA)

38 Yeah, I was saving my price griping for the food thread, but while I haven't seen much in the way of shortages the grocery prices will make you swoon.
I stocked up on non perishables during the lock down, very glad I did, coming in handy right about now.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, partly cloudy, clearing in the afternoon at October 09, 2022 02:24 PM (jTmQV)

39 With renovations, foundation, plumbing, windows, doors, etc. we have almost spent as much re-doing the house in the past two years as we did buying the damn thing.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 09, 2022 02:24 PM (RG7Wy)

40 I liked my radiant heat in my last home. I like the lack of murders on my block more though.
Get a nice penetrating oil, spray it on when the radiator is cold and then let it heat up, I've had luck with the heat drawing the oil down into the threads.
If you are not in a hurry... just hit all your radiators once a day for a while.
Then get a good wrench, something tight so you will know if it's turning and not stripping, try to loosen it, if you don't like how it feels give it a quarter turn tight. Then try to back it off. If you are still worried about it, add more oil and tray again later. Don't need to hurry.

Posted by: Inogame at October 09, 2022 02:25 PM (D/9Qo)

41 With renovations, foundation, plumbing, windows, doors, etc. we have almost spent as much re-doing the house in the past two years as we did buying the damn thing.
Posted by: Colonel Travis

This is the home-owners lament is it not?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 09, 2022 02:26 PM (Dgmar)

42 Free wood!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2022 02:21 PM (U2p+3)

Used to be if you had a saw and a pickup you could make side money by going to the timber company landings and cutting up the trash trees they loggers left behind because they weren't worth hauling to the mill.

I swear there is still money to find the slash piles and turning the limbs and tops into chips, but I can't figure out a buyer for the chips.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 02:26 PM (xhaym)

43 Pppfffttt!!!
90 year old steam vents.
That's nuthin'
Now coat hangers! There's a first world problem!
I look in my closet and one: I can't find one; and two, there are five different kinds holding jackets I haven't seen in years! And when I finally dig one out, its a cheap plastic POS and breaks when I try to use it.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2022 02:27 PM (anj39)

44 39 With renovations, foundation, plumbing, windows, doors, etc. we have almost spent as much re-doing the house in the past two years as we did buying the damn thing.
Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 09, 2022 02:24 PM (RG7Wy)

If you find yourself feeling ahead in the game

count yourself fortunate

Posted by: REDACTED at October 09, 2022 02:28 PM (us2H3)

45 If you are still worried about it, add more oil and tray again later. Don't need to hurry.

Sounds like a job for SeaFoam's Deep-Creep.
(no relation to LGBFJB)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 09, 2022 02:28 PM (Dgmar)

46 Now coat hangers! There's a first world problem!
I look in my closet and one: I can't find one; and two, there are five different kinds holding jackets I haven't seen in years! And when I finally dig one out, its a cheap plastic POS and breaks when I try to use it.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2022 02:27 PM (anj39)

check your desk drawers for paperclips, a good number indicate a hefty hatch soon enough.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 02:28 PM (xhaym)

47 hefty hatch of wire coat hangars.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 02:29 PM (xhaym)

48 I swear there is still money to find the slash piles and turning the limbs and tops into chips, but I can't figure out a buyer for the chips.
Posted by: Kindltot

If you have enough yard pile it up, wet it down and let it cook a year and then sell it as mulch.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 09, 2022 02:30 PM (Dgmar)

49 Willowed
Florida Surgeon General used a Israeli study
Posted by: Skip

*******

Actually I was looking at this earlier today. The source was Florida health department death certificates that included ICD10 codes I30 thru I50, which include myocarditis, pericarditis, dysrhythmias, sudden death, cardiomyopathy and a bunch of other conditions. Not necessarily autopsy confirmed. To see if there was a time link to vaccine, they compared a 4 week post vaccine period to a subsequent 21 week window, to see if there was an increase above background levels during the 4-week window. Long story short, there was a statistically significant elevation in risk for males in 18-39 y/o age range. 20 cases with one of those codes occurred in the first four weeks compared to 52 in the subsequent 21 weeks. The 4-wk risk was 1.84 times the baseline rate, with a quite wide 95% confidence interval. (i.e.relative risk might turn out to be substantially lower or higher) By comparison in the males >60 y/o there were over 4000 cases with those codes. The small numbers in the younger group are more likely to magnify apparent differences. Not a confirmed causal link. Statistically suggestive.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:30 PM (cPDW+)

50 Sounds like a job for SeaFoam's Deep-Creep.
(no relation to LGBFJB)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 09, 2022 02:28 PM (Dgmar)

That's a good product.

Posted by: Inogame at October 09, 2022 02:31 PM (D/9Qo)

51 check your desk drawers for paperclips, a good number indicate a hefty hatch soon enough.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 02:28 PM (xhaym)

*checks desk*
Crap! No drawers!
(Ikea special)

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2022 02:31 PM (anj39)

52
I swear there is still money to find the slash piles and turning the limbs and tops into chips, but I can't figure out a buyer for the chips.
Posted by: Kindltot

aren't the chips simply the base ingrediant for flower bed and landscape mulch?

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 09, 2022 02:32 PM (3CCua)

53 Is your house actually steam heat, i.e. boiler under considerable pressure, or is it hot water (boiler at essentially atmospheric pressure)?

I just did a sort of similar plumbing job on the old Flx motor coach. I broke a tee off the bottom of the engine, containing a drain valve and a nipple for a circulating block heater. Backed over a spruce tree, I did. The spruce was broken off, too. I found a screw extractor that just fit the 3/8" pipe nipple, tapped it in with a hammer, and put a wrench to it. The broken-off stub of the nipple backed right out, as nicely as you please. All fixed, now. Got 8 liters of antifreeze, and 8 of water in the rad now, and more is indicated. Definitely won't hurt the engine to get fresh anti-corrosion additives, either.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2022 02:32 PM (+n6ha)

54 I was going through some old boxes here in my office. I came across a couple of mini R/C helicopters I bought about a decade or more ago. The AA batteries in the controller of one had leaked all over everything it the box, nothing's salvageable.

I am disappoint.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 09, 2022 02:34 PM (BFigT)

55 How did he move it ?

Wuz yer Grandpa Popeye ?
Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 02:17 PM (T4tVD)

Peavey or cant hook. Tools you can buy. They make it pretty easy to roll large logs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2022 02:35 PM (+n6ha)

56 Muldoon didn't also show Israeli statistics?

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 02:36 PM (xhxe8)

57 aren't the chips simply the base ingrediant for flower bed and landscape mulch?
Posted by: BifBewalski at October 09, 2022 02:32 PM (3CCua)

There is a composting place at the edge of town that specializes in that, and sawdust and barkdust.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 02:37 PM (xhaym)

58 >>> 42 Free wood!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2022 02:21 PM (U2p+3)

Used to be if you had a saw and a pickup you could make side money by going to the timber company landings and cutting up the trash trees they loggers left behind because they weren't worth hauling to the mill.

I swear there is still money to find the slash piles and turning the limbs and tops into chips, but I can't figure out a buyer for the chips.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 02:26 PM (xhaym)

In addition to mulch that other Morons suggested, you could offer the chips as livestock bedding.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2022 02:38 PM (llON8)

59 I swear there is still money to find the slash piles and turning the limbs and tops into chips, but I can't figure out a buyer for the chips.

*******

I did that once, just parked by the side of the road. An old local guy pulled up as I was wrapping up for the day, noted my prices and my empty truck and wryly muttered,

...wait for it...

"Good buy! Missed yer chips!"

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:39 PM (cPDW+)

60 15 First world my ass. We're now Venezuela. Just went to the grocery store and left with nothing. Just walked around looking at the prices. I don't keep too much attention on prices, but I know a few. The lettuce WAS 1 buck according to memory. Now its $3. Coffee WAS 8-9 bucks. Now $16
Posted by: Jimco Industries at October 09, 2022 02:08 PM (buTO7)

Took my spouse a few times recently so he could understand. Now, to save money, you don't make a list. You just walk around and buy the healthy food that's reasonably priced and you figure out how it all goes together with a few staples or sauces later...

Posted by: Nova local at October 09, 2022 02:39 PM (exHjb)

61 I bet Sarah can grind chips from home too.
Same as in town.

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2022 02:40 PM (gktX6)

62 didn't also show Israeli statistics?
Posted by: Skip

*******

Possibly, but not at the link I was poking around in.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:40 PM (cPDW+)

63 I heard a rumbling today that I'm getting gas service in my apt. Right now I have electric heat. If people are coming to work here, I'm gonna have to move some stuff. Right now I couldn't fit a good fart in here, If I wanna fart, I hafta go outside.

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 02:40 PM (T4tVD)

64 He'd spot a runaway log with binoculars from the deck. Then hop in the aluminum skiff and tow it to the beach. Process it into smaller chunks with a chainsaw, then split it on the bulkhead.

Free wood!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2022 02:21 PM (U2p+3)

The Coast Guard should have paid him. He was clearing hazards to navigation.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 09, 2022 02:24 PM (AiZBA)

Don't know how it worked, legal-wise in Washington, but in British Columbia, directly north, there were licensed log-salvage contractors who were paid by the timber companies to collect branded logs. The logs, as they were loaded into booms, were branded by being struck with big hammers on the end grain. That left an impression, and the hammers were also inked. It was illegal to possess a branded log if you were not the lawful owner of the brand, or a contractor.

There was also no scarcity of unbranded logs for firewood.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2022 02:41 PM (+n6ha)

65 ...wait for it...

"Good buy! Missed yer chips!"
Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:39 PM (cPDW+)

Ok.
I snorted out loud.
Now the dog is looking at me funny.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2022 02:42 PM (anj39)

66 You know.
If you're without power and it's cold and you don't have a fireplace.... tape off one room with plastic, tape off the windows with plastic and hang wool blankets and light a bunch of candles. It helps.

Ask me how I know.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2022 02:42 PM (U2p+3)

67 Peavey or cant hook. Tools you can buy. They make it pretty easy to roll large logs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I know what that is ! I even used one a time or two !

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 02:42 PM (T4tVD)

68 Muldoon I will see if I can find web page I was looking at

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 02:43 PM (xhxe8)

69 the problem, as I understand it, is there are few autopsies being done at the level of determining damage by the vaccine.

It is true there is no direct evidence for vaccine injuries causing this apparent excess death statistic claimed by reviews of vital statistics and reports by insurance companies that document the payouts they make, and it is probably true that the only actual data we have to go by is the types of death listed by the various MDs and coronors' offices, the VAERS and the military version of the VAERS, but it could also be true that it is very difficult to find direct evidence if no one is looking for it.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 02:43 PM (xhaym)

70 They make some pretty damn cool radiators these days. I'm talking epic, but man so is the price. I thought maybe that I would axe the baseboards in the family room and replace them with a few epic looking radiators to free up some wall space for my epic book cases that i have to build. Holy shit, we're talking probably 5-10K for the radiators. Yeah not doing that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 09, 2022 02:43 PM (VwHCD)

71 Git along litlle loggies!

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2022 02:43 PM (gktX6)

72 Why are you limiting yourself to only two heating systems that don't properly work? Get yourself a forced air furnace for the trifecta.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 09, 2022 02:43 PM (SmY7f)

73 >>>I think I will just suffer the almost unendurable agony of rooms that are one degree apart!

The horror.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 09, 2022 02:44 PM (yHsuS)

74 They used to sell bread for a buck a loaf. I used to buy it for the birds. Now its 2 for FIVE Bucks !

The birds can bake their own bread now !

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 02:44 PM (T4tVD)

75 It was illegal to possess a branded log if you were not the lawful owner of the brand, or a contractor.

There was also no scarcity of unbranded logs for firewood.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Yep. That's why grandpa processed logs as fast as he could.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2022 02:45 PM (U2p+3)

76 I didn't trust QAnon when I was told to trust the plan, and I don't much trust public health authorities that told me that wearing a cloth mask and walking one way only through supermarkets were a sure fire way to prevent a respiratory virus spread by aerosols.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 02:45 PM (xhaym)

77 https://www.revolver.news/the mrna covid vaccines are killingpeople plain and simple
https://tinyurl.com/nhdn3kjb

Australian and Israel statistics

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 02:46 PM (xhxe8)

78
Except, I have nightmares of cracking off the valve inside the radiator, or even worse, cracking the body of the radiator. And all of them are built into the walls...not one is free standing.

Ah, I see you have some real world experience with DIY repairs. When the 'worst case scenario' is only a turn of the wrench away.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2022 02:46 PM (y3pKJ)

79 In my old house I had a radiant heat system. It was a constant battle to bleed the air out of the system. It really took a lot of attention to keep it running as designed.

No HVAC guys around here wanted to touch it. Radiant systems are very unusual in this area.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 09, 2022 02:47 PM (LsEU/)

80 it could also be true that it is very difficult to find direct evidence if no one is looking for it.
Posted by: Kindltot

*******

Yep. And who knows what sort of rigor (pun not intended) is used in coding the death certificates. My guess is that incidence of cardiac inflammatory side effects is substantially higher than we suspect.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:47 PM (cPDW+)

81 The birds can bake their own bread.

Was at the grocery store the other day and wanted english muffins. The Thomas brand was over $5 for a pkg. I bought orowheat.

Posted by: Infidel at October 09, 2022 02:48 PM (Ur3ox)

82 He'd spot a runaway log with binoculars from the deck. Then hop in the aluminum skiff and tow it to the beach. Process it into smaller chunks with a chainsaw, then split it on the bulkhead.
***

Ya know Clem. The best way to head off a runaway log is to get in front of it and try to turn it. Then the whole herd will follow. Used to ride my pony, Skif. A good horse. Best one I even rude.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2022 02:48 PM (anj39)

83 Patti Page has steam heat:

https://youtu.be/b1YHL2E2sR4

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2022 02:50 PM (+n6ha)

84 https://www.independentsentinel.com/florida will not-be-silent-84-increase in cardiac related deaths in boys

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 02:50 PM (xhxe8)

85 Look into Dresser couplings. I had to replace some steam pipes whose fittings could not be loosened. I love my steam heat. Best is no moving parts.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at October 09, 2022 02:50 PM (b+v9B)

86 Muldoon, this has been a nightmare for me, and my life. I want to go back to fighting with people about the right way to plant potatoes since that is the most important thing evar.

I probably won't discuss it any more, sorry.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 02:51 PM (xhaym)

87 Speaking of plumbing issues and FWP, does anybody have suggestions regarding the various types of water softening house systems? Our well water turns out to be substantially harder than we previously suspected.

Specifically, does a salt system result in reversal of lime scale deposits throughout the pipes, or that irreversible?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:52 PM (cPDW+)

88 but it could also be true that it is very difficult to find direct evidence if no one is looking for it.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 02:43 PM (xhaym)
____________

I call this the "ants on a picnic" phenomenon. Sitting on the ground, looking casually to one side you see an ant. Then looking more carefully you see a couple ants. Then you jump and yell, "Jesus, they're all over the place!" and go somewhere else.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 02:52 PM (YqDXo)

89 Such as this one. Dressers can be used anywhere.
https://tinyurl.com/7vh363rb

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at October 09, 2022 02:52 PM (b+v9B)

90 I probably won't discuss it any more, sorry.
Posted by: Kindltot

******

No apology needed. I am right there myself.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:53 PM (cPDW+)

91 AOP how ever did you remember that one

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 02:55 PM (xhxe8)

92 but it could also be true that it is very difficult to find direct evidence if no one is looking for it.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 02:43 PM (xhaym)

It's not just "not looking for it"; it's actively suppressing any attempt to look for it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2022 02:55 PM (+n6ha)

93 Sorry for dragging the vax stuff in to this thread CBD. Uncalled for.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:56 PM (cPDW+)

94 Halloween question for CBD:
Any ghosts in your old house?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 09, 2022 02:57 PM (2xlV3)

95
I love my steam heat. Best is no moving parts.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at October 09, 2022 02:50 PM

Steam heat is hydrating the air. Moist air feels warmer then dry air. I recently replaced a room size fan-forced heater with an oil filled radiator. Exact same btu capability, but the difference in comfort is noticeable. There is no 'wind chill factor' as no fan. There is almost no noise. As the air remains moist, there is no static charge in the carpet. Yes, a few bucks more, but worth it.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2022 02:57 PM (y3pKJ)

96 AOP how ever did you remember that one
Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 02:55 PM (xhxe

Well, I misrembered it. I searched for the song by Manhattan Transfer, but they didn't do it; the Pointer Sisters did. And then I saw that Patti Page did it, and Bingo!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2022 02:57 PM (+n6ha)

97 but I can't figure out a buyer for the chips.

I read that Germany wants your chips.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at October 09, 2022 02:58 PM (C1rbv)

98 Sorry for dragging the vax stuff in to this thread CBD. Uncalled for.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:56 PM (cPDW+)

Hey, learned there may be a wrong way to plant potatoes.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2022 02:58 PM (anj39)

99 Sorry for dragging the vax stuff in to this thread CBD. Uncalled for.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:56 PM (cPDW+)

Pretty much a defining case of First-World problem, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2022 02:59 PM (+n6ha)

100 Making chile for supper so better get on it

And yes, cowboy chile has beans as every cowboy meal had

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 03:00 PM (xhxe8)

101 I thought you just bang on the pipe and yell at the super to send more steam. That is what all the NYC based tv shows did.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 09, 2022 03:02 PM (AsdHF)

102 I thought you just bang on the pipe and yell at the super to send more steam. That is what all the NYC based tv shows did.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 09, 2022 03:02 PM (AsdHF)

The Honeymooners?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2022 03:02 PM (Irn0L)

103 Getting myocarditis from the Clot-shot IS a First-World problem.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at October 09, 2022 03:03 PM (C1rbv)

104 The Honeymooners?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2022 03:02 PM (Irn0L)

Tony Orlando???

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2022 03:03 PM (anj39)

105 Born in Oklahoma in the middle of the last century (hint: 29 years ago). When we finally got modern, we had central heat (gas) and a/c.

Never even saw a radiator in the flesh until my Chicago-born lady and I visited up there. We later moved there for fourteen winters. Our building had steam radiators. On those merciless Chicago winter nights, the hissing of the radiators, even the occasional banging, meant comfort.

(Steam radiators were the modernization there; the basement still had a room that clearly had been the coal dump in the past.)

Escaped back to Oklahoma almost three decades ago. The roar of central heat kicking on may not bring quite the same feeling of comfort, but I don't miss futzing with boilers and radiators. And winters are much milder.

Posted by: mindful webworker - YouTube cancelled my YT channel at October 09, 2022 03:03 PM (LzOhn)

106 Our system is pretty tight, very dry in the house. My wife cooking all day steams the place up. We use one 20" box fan in front of a 3' radiator to even out the heat.
My FWP is getting my little lawns to be 90% fescue.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at October 09, 2022 03:04 PM (b+v9B)

107 Re: Stirling: Having two long-haired cats, my first go-to would be a dose of Petromalt if there are no other symptoms.
Posted by: Socratease at October 09, 2022

***
Socratease, I didn't see this until just now. Stirling isn't really longhaired, sort of medium, with a plushy sort of ruff and a fluffy tail. But you're right, it could be hairballs. Though my longhaired black cat Wolf would regularly hork his up onto the carpet.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 09, 2022 03:06 PM (c6xtn)

108 Statistically suggestive.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:30 PM (cPDW+)

thanks for the explanation, Muldoon!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 09, 2022 03:06 PM (2xlV3)

109 Our place is heated by propane. We have one electric, oil filled radiator that sits in the master bathroom all winter set on "low." It's the coldest room in the house during the winter and the Mrs does not like a frosty toilet seat.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 09, 2022 03:07 PM (BFigT)

110 Speaking of First-World problems, a currently recommended article on Twitter:

I used a dating app to meet millionaires. I got to travel the world, get fancy gifts, and learn a lot from my relationships.

And now I am alone with my cats.

Lots and lots of cats.

I may have added that last part.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 09, 2022 03:07 PM (I2/tG)

111 I went to a private boarding school. My junior year,I lived in the school's original building. We all had steam heat. Some rooms froze and others had their windows open at night.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at October 09, 2022 03:08 PM (b+v9B)

112 I thought you just bang on the pipe and yell at the super to send more steam. That is what all the NYC based tv shows did.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 09, 2022 03:02 PM (AsdHF)

The Honeymooners?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

And cuss words! Lots of & * # % swearing!!

-Ralphie Parker’s Dad

Posted by: Rex B at October 09, 2022 03:09 PM (z94BK)

113 I used a dating app to meet millionaires. I got to travel the world, get fancy gifts, and learn a lot from my relationships.

And now I am alone with my cats.

Lots and lots of cats.

I may have added that last part.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 09, 2022 03:07 PM (I2/tG)

Harry Windsor is a cat? Who knew?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2022 03:11 PM (+n6ha)

114 ESPN Referred to Cleveland Guardians as ‘Indians’ in Promotional Graphic

LOL...Good

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2022 03:11 PM (Irn0L)

115 Wolfus @ 108, get out a Sunday shirt on the iorning board and Stirling will jump up there and hark a hairball, if that's the problem. Bonus if he knocks the iron on the floor.

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2022 03:12 PM (/RDPd)

116 We have baseboard heating here in Casa Nevergiveup. Gas fired boiler. No problems. Usually to hot for me and I have open the windows to get cool cold air

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2022 03:12 PM (Irn0L)

117 My junior year, I lived in the school's original building. We all had steam heat. Some rooms froze and others had their windows open at night.

Soviet-era apartment buildings have no thermostats.

What you do have is a small window within the window (a fortochka) that you can open to let a limited amount of outside air in to cool down your overheated apartment.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 09, 2022 03:13 PM (I2/tG)

118 "Boss, they's carrots in this chile!"

"Get a rope."

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 09, 2022 03:13 PM (tXZnU)

119 ESPN Referred to Cleveland Guardians as ‘Indians’ in Promotional Graphic

LOL...Good
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2022 03:11 PM (Irn0L)

The Guardians (heh) should adopt Paul Blart, mall detective, as their mascot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2022 03:14 PM (+n6ha)

120 I wonder if Cleveland asked the USCG how they liked their name being use by a sportsball team?

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2022 03:17 PM (/RDPd)

121 A Christmas Story, in which Darren McGavin was the cussing father, fending off not only the house furnace but the Bumpus' hounds too.

From Jean Shepard's 'In God We Trust...All Others Pay Cash'

Posted by: Lola at October 09, 2022 03:17 PM (NIYa7)

122 Any ghosts in your old house?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 09, 2022 02:57 PM (2xlV3)

Nope! Although when it is very cold (below 5 degrees) the pipes in the kitchen make an interesting noise that alternates between gurgling and thumping. Maybe that is a ghost reenacting his hanging?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 09, 2022 03:18 PM (XIJ/X)

123
87,000 future IRS agents will be checking the returns carefully of those making purchases of heating oil or propane this winter. I know damn well every purchase through your bank is 'coded' with a number indicating purpose.

Heat or eat. Choose carefully. Choosing 'both' might get you an audit.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2022 03:21 PM (y3pKJ)

124 My junior year, I lived in the school's original building. We all had steam heat. Some rooms froze and others had their windows open at night.

Soviet-era apartment buildings have no thermostats.

What you do have is a small window within the window (a fortochka) that you can open to let a limited amount of outside air in to cool down your overheated apartment.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 09, 2022 03:13 PM (I2/tG)
____________

My office in an East Coast university was overheated in the winter (I brought a thermometer from the lab; my office was at 90 F), and overcooled in the summer (45 F). I left my window open a bit all year 'round.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 03:21 PM (YqDXo)

125 Lola @ 122, Shepherd wrote an article for Playboy about his bomber training in Florida end of WW II. Hilarious.

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2022 03:22 PM (/RDPd)

126 Specifically, does a salt system result in reversal of lime scale deposits throughout the pipes, or that irreversible?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:52 PM (cPDW+)

Yes. At least from my experience. And the chemistry suggests that I am correct.

[And Jay Guevara is in the house! He can answer better than I!]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 09, 2022 03:23 PM (XIJ/X)

127 so I think I will just suffer the almost unendurable agony of rooms that are one degree apart!

To be fair, they're one degree apart because they're right next to each other.

Remember, Kevin Bacon, in all his glory, tolerates six degrees.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 09, 2022 03:26 PM (a3Q+t)

128 Making chile for supper so better get on it

And yes, cowboy chile has beans as every cowboy meal had
Posted by: Skip

Don't forget the carrots !

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 03:26 PM (T4tVD)

129 Steam heat is hydrating the air.
I don't even know how to tell you this, but if your steam heat is hydrating anything, you're in trouble.

Hydronic systems with expansion tanks were notorious for picking up a bubble in a fitting that could stay there for years. My hot-water radiators all had a bleed cap. When we did away with the expansion tank, we installed this little "whizzer" just upstream of the (return-side) pump that sizzled a few times, and has now been quiet for years.

I open all the circuits all the way for an hour or so at the start of the season, then set the proportioning valves and don't have to worry about air any more.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 09, 2022 03:26 PM (x61Im)

130 Woke Broadway Revival of Classic ‘1776’ Musical Casts Transgender, ‘Non-Binary’ Actors: ‘Trans People Have Always Existed — They Existed in 1776’

HORSESHIT
Hopes it flops and NO BODY goes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2022 03:27 PM (Irn0L)

131 Give me some steam!

Posted by: Peter Gabriel at October 09, 2022 03:27 PM (EZebt)

132 I went to the big city(Hays) and shopped at Dillons (aka Kroger). It was a wonderment! Looked like a Costco. I spent too much but I have some stuff in the freezer now. And they carry my favorite yogurt.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 09, 2022 03:28 PM (uz3Px)

133 On reading all these steam radiator squawks, I'm so glad we have forced air heating.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 03:29 PM (YqDXo)

134 Our first flat in Noe Valley had one electric radiator in the living room that was supposed to heat a large 1BR apartment. So yeah the bedroom had no heat and 100 year old windows.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2022 03:30 PM (EZebt)

135 Woke Broadway Revival of Classic ‘1776’ Musical Casts Transgender, ‘Non-Binary’ Actors: ‘Trans People Have Always Existed — They Existed in 1776’
___________

If they existed then, they at least had the good breeding to keep their mouths shut.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 03:30 PM (YqDXo)

136 Be sure to seek medical help if you have steam for more than four hours.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 09, 2022 03:30 PM (a3Q+t)

137 Back in the day, we used to run 1,200psi boilers, going into 35,000 Shaft horsepower marine steam turbines.
And reducers to get steam pressure down to 'Hotel Steam' pressure for steam heating coils around the ship
Steam can do some amazing stuff.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2022 03:31 PM (1n+EO)

138 I'm waiting to see if anyone shows up to work on my central heat this week. They said they might. I am tempted to get stove pipe and set up my tent heater in the laundry room. But then I'd need to find firewood.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 09, 2022 03:32 PM (uz3Px)

139 I wonder if Cleveland asked the USCG

You're trying too hard. Coast Guardsmen are not known as "Guardians." However, the Space Force...are. "By choice."

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 09, 2022 03:33 PM (x61Im)

140 Don't forget the carrots !
Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 03:26 PM

It used to be that (All_Morons - 1) were united in declaiming carrots had any place in chili.

It is sad to see this last remaining bastion of Moron Unity crumble.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 09, 2022 03:33 PM (a3Q+t)

141 I've never eaten yogurt in my life; never even tasted it.

Aaaaannnnnd I'm gonna keep my streak goin' !

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 03:34 PM (T4tVD)

142 the Mrs does not like a frosty toilet seat.

That is unusual.

Posted by: clutch at October 09, 2022 03:35 PM (9UmRs)

143 Nike co-founder donates $1M to Republican running for governor in Oregon
Oregon hasn't elected a Republican governor in decades, but Christine Drazan is leading in polls

When your lose the left wing Nike Company, you are in deep shit on the left LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2022 03:36 PM (Irn0L)

144 Back in the day, we used to run 1,200psi boilers, going into 35,000 Shaft horsepower marine steam turbines.
And reducers to get steam pressure down to 'Hotel Steam' pressure for steam heating coils around the ship
Steam can do some amazing stuff.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

We were taught to hunt for steam leaks with a wooden mop handle on the aircraft carrier.
We were told we found one if the handle gets cut off by the high pressure steam.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 09, 2022 03:36 PM (Dgmar)

145 CBD

You have mail

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2022 03:36 PM (1n+EO)

146 And yes, cowboy chile has beans as every cowboy meal had
Posted by: Skip

*********

Chile?
Never mind the debate about beans or carrots. I maintain that there should not be any e's in chili.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 03:37 PM (cPDW+)

147 Specifically, does a salt system result in reversal of lime scale deposits throughout the pipes, or that irreversible?
Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 02:52 PM (cPDW+)

Yes. At least from my experience. And the chemistry suggests that I am correct.

[And Jay Guevara is in the house! He can answer better than I!]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 09, 2022 03:23 PM (XIJ/X)
______________
Interesting question. I assume the softening salt is NaCl, used to convert dissolved the poorly soluble calcium carbonate/bicarbonate to the corresponding sodium salts, which are soluble.

Once the calcium salts are deposited, the exchange would probably still happen, albeit much more slowly. because heterogeneous reactions are typically kinetically slow to reach equilibrium.

Short version, I suspect the answer is "yes, eventually."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 03:37 PM (YqDXo)

148 >>> 100 Making chile for supper so better get on it

And yes, cowboy chile has beans as every cowboy meal had
Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2022 03:00 PM (xhxe

"You boys have had enough beans!"

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2022 03:38 PM (llON8)

149
It is sad to see this last remaining bastion of Moron Unity crumble.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

'last remaining'?
I think there is Moron Unity on 'I would like to go to Texas next week'.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 09, 2022 03:38 PM (Dgmar)

150 "We were taught to hunt for steam leaks with a wooden mop handle on the aircraft carrier.
We were told we found one if the handle gets cut off by the high pressure steam. "

Mop, or broom.

If you used the old brooms, the stalks might smoke or even ignite if you got it right at the leak.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2022 03:38 PM (1n+EO)

151 Nike co-founder donates $1M to Republican running for governor in Oregon
Oregon hasn't elected a Republican governor in decades, but Christine Drazan is leading in polls

When your lose the left wing Nike Company, you are in deep shit on the left LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2022 03:36 PM (Irn0L)
___________
Judgment Day must be nigh.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 03:38 PM (YqDXo)

152 >>> 143 Nike co-founder donates $1M to Republican running for governor in Oregon
Oregon hasn't elected a Republican governor in decades, but Christine Drazan is leading in polls

When your lose the left wing Nike Company, you are in deep shit on the left LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2022 03:36 PM (Irn0L)

Not if you deliberately destroy the feedback mechanism!

Posted by: Stalin's Vote Counters at October 09, 2022 03:40 PM (llON8)

153 Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 09, 2022 03:28 PM (uz3Px)

How do you like the plains? ND is one of my favorite states.

Posted by: clutch at October 09, 2022 03:41 PM (9UmRs)

154 141 I've never eaten yogurt in my life; never even tasted it.

Aaaaannnnnd I'm gonna keep my streak goin' !
Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 03:34 PM (T4tVD)
---------------

Was looking for some ranch dip at the store because I was too lazy to make it. I bought yogurt ranch dip by mistake. The first-world disappointment I felt was obnoxious. I shouldn't have taken it that bad but dammit I did not want that crap. I wanted straight up ranch.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 09, 2022 03:41 PM (RG7Wy)

155 Short version, I suspect the answer is "yes, eventually."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

******

Thanks. I' hope that's the case. Hopefully we won't have to replace the tankless water heater, dishwasher, washing machine and suchlike.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 03:43 PM (cPDW+)

156 Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 09, 2022 03:41 PM (RG7Wy)

WTH is yogurt ranch dip? Yogurt instead of sour cream?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 09, 2022 03:43 PM (2xlV3)

157 125. Thanks! I'll search for it; he was a funny guy. He suggested listeners visit bookstores and ask for I, Libertine which led to booksellers attempting to purchase the book from their distributors. Of course, there was no such book.

Posted by: Lola at October 09, 2022 03:44 PM (NIYa7)

158 I've never eaten yogurt in my life; never even tasted it.

Aaaaannnnnd I'm gonna keep my streak goin' !
Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 03:34 PM (T4tVD)

You ain't missing much

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 09, 2022 03:45 PM (2xlV3)

159 VIA @ 137-
How long between cold iron and cast off?

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2022 03:45 PM (/RDPd)

160
Steam heat is hydrating the air.
....
I don't even know how to tell you this, but if your steam heat is hydrating anything, you're in trouble.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 09, 2022 03:26 PM

Yes, to be more accurate, a 'tight' steam heat system does not hydrate the air. It just warms the air up, moist or dry. Forced air systems, space-heaters, etc. do take the water out of the air, leaving it less comfortable at low temps (not too mention the 'wind chill factor'). I have a hydroponic system (occasionally) heated with home heating oil. It is the absolute best, but uses a shitload of energy. I'm a little uncertain about the 'science' behind running all the baseboards on the outside walls. It seems to be a system designed by people who sell home heating oil.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2022 03:45 PM (y3pKJ)

161 Pro Tip for all you Northern US folks living in 150 year old houses or whatever -

Central Air is the shiznizzle!

Posted by: naturalfake at October 09, 2022 03:47 PM (KLPy8)

162 Thanks. I' hope that's the case. Hopefully we won't have to replace the tankless water heater, dishwasher, washing machine and suchlike.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 03:43 PM (cPDW+)
___________

I hope so, too. I wouldn't chisel my opinion above into stone, but I think there's a good chance this will work out.

Re vaccines and sequelae, what time frame would you expect for, e.g., myocarditis to appear?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 03:47 PM (YqDXo)

163 Way way downriver, so it was Space Force, the SECOND attempt of the Army Air Corps to take over America's military?

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2022 03:48 PM (/RDPd)

164 A Beto streetwalker just roused me from a nap to panderhandle for my vote. I told her, "Of course I'm going to vote for Beto. Isn't EVERYONE in this neighborhood?"

Ah,
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

P.S. She drives a Porshe Cayenne. Loser.

Posted by: Marooned at October 09, 2022 03:48 PM (w6hJ9)

165 156
WTH is yogurt ranch dip? Yogurt instead of sour cream?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 09, 2022 03:43 PM (2xlV3)
-------------

I believe that is the switch, yes. A container of pure disgust.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 09, 2022 03:50 PM (RG7Wy)

166 Brown Cow Cream Top Whole Milk yogurt, Maple flavor. It is so good.

I like the plains. I'm at 2100 ft so it feels a lot like the top of the world. There is a small lake on one side of town and a state fishing lake the other direction. The dog is enjoying it. I love having clear nights, almost every night. I am taking it slow, have met a few neighbors. And the local hardware store is great too.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 09, 2022 03:51 PM (uz3Px)

167 I've never eaten yogurt in my life; never even tasted it.

Aaaaannnnnd I'm gonna keep my streak goin' !
Posted by: JT at October 09, 2022 03:34 PM (T4tVD)

You ain't missing much
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 09, 2022 03:45 PM (2xlV3)

Not that I want to be one of those guys, but I guess I'm gonna be.

While over in the the Olde Country a couple of weeks ago, I had French yoghurt, which was better than any I've had in the US. So, I made it part of my daily breakfast. Just plain. Tasted great and wasn't loaded with a bunch of crap either.

Italian plain yoghurt was no slouch as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 09, 2022 03:52 PM (KLPy8)

168 All heating systems dehydrate the air. It's built into the physics. Warm air has a greater capacity for moisture than does cold air. That's what relative humidity is all about.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2022 03:52 PM (+n6ha)

169 I believe that is the switch, yes. A container of pure disgust.
Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 09, 2022 03:50 PM (RG7Wy)
____________

Speaking of disgust, we watched the Crimson Tide game yesterday, and noticed how so many of the food-related commercials - which were in abundance - portrayed what looked and sounded like utterly disgusting concoctions. Anyone else have that reaction?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 03:53 PM (YqDXo)

170 Hot water baseboard heat, works just like radiators. Fan running on low speed 24/7 has worked ever since buying the house. No problemo.

Posted by: Lump the Chump at October 09, 2022 03:54 PM (YSa8T)

171 You could trade up to my old place. At least 210 years old with all the eccentricities you might expect.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 09, 2022 03:54 PM (VImi7)

172 "How long between cold iron and cast off?"

Typically 48-72 hours for routine underway/deployment.

Emergency sortee 4-6 hours, with no guarantee that you wouldn't blow flexes or worse.

Personal best was six hours on 9-12-2001 after putting the plant back together overnight to get out of Geata harbor and get under an air defense umbrella.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2022 03:55 PM (1n+EO)

173 Geata=Gaeta

Sheesh

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2022 03:57 PM (1n+EO)

174 Those oil filled radiators are nice. I bought two for the old house, when the last wall heater died. They used less electricity than the 220 wall heaters. The cat likes to sleep next to them. I would like to get the central heat going, as I suspect natural gas heat will be nice.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 09, 2022 03:57 PM (uz3Px)

175 Since Jay is here: could you flush a water system with dilute nitric acid to get rid of the scale, say in your water heater? Dilute it down to 5 or 10 percent. I understand that nitrate salts of pretty much all common cations are readily soluble.

I expect one would have to neutralize with a mild base, and then flush several times with plain water.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2022 03:58 PM (+n6ha)

176 Speaking of disgust, we watched the Crimson Tide game yesterday, and noticed how so many of the food-related commercials - which were in abundance - portrayed what looked and sounded like utterly disgusting concoctions. Anyone else have that reaction?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 03:53 PM (YqDXo)
***

Well the refs in the USC-WSU game created some ugly And disgusting concoctions in some of their calls. WSU hasn't had an honestly called game at USC in years.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2022 03:58 PM (anj39)

177 As with everything but especially old stuff, if it is working don't fuck with it. Particularly don't think you can make it marginally better because you won't and most likely will break it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 09, 2022 03:58 PM (u4CEu)

178 Hey CBD my home IP is banned I guess. Don't know why or what I did. Can you help me please? (sn5EN)

Posted by: fd at October 09, 2022 03:59 PM (uH1zk)

179 sounded like utterly disgusting concoctions. Anyone else have that reaction?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 03:53 PM (YqDXo)

Disgusting concoctions such as ????

Posted by: naturalfake at October 09, 2022 04:00 PM (KLPy8)

180 Nope! Although when it is very cold (below 5 degrees) the pipes in the kitchen make an interesting noise that alternates between gurgling and thumping. Maybe that is a ghost reenacting his hanging?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 09, 2022 03:18 PM (XIJ/X)

Um, that would be me...

Posted by: Zombie David Carradine at October 09, 2022 04:00 PM (PiwSw)

181 Get cleaned up and upstairs
FOOD NOOD

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 09, 2022 04:01 PM (xhxe8)

182 I'm hoping to beat the rush and convert from natural gas to burning tires for heat this winter.

Posted by: Weasel at October 09, 2022 04:01 PM (0IeYL)

183 I guess those commercials featuring weird little recipes featuring Kraft products are a lost part of Americana now.

It seems like something that would still work cuz people are lazy as hell, but I suppose Kraft figures not.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 09, 2022 04:02 PM (KLPy8)

184 Charlie, you do have some steam heat...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pZXjb6aCy8

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 09, 2022 04:02 PM (aurj9)

185 Re vaccines and sequelae, what time frame would you expect for, e.g., myocarditis to appear?

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My assumption would be based on a model of typical viral myocarditis, such as coxsackie virus, in which the virus enters the body, viral particles invade myocytes, multiply, then enter the blood stream (viremia) and the resulting immune system response causes the inflammatory damage to the myocytes. That time course is perhaps 1 to 3 weeks give or takee.

In the case of the mRNA vaccine, the production of spike protein is probably faster, so inflammatory changes might show up sooner perhaps as early as one week. The duration of inflammation varies.

And as with viral myocarditis, it's a little bit like the tip of the iceberg, as folks with subclinical cardiac involvement may be many times more than those that are clinically diagnosed. At what point does cardiac inflammation become "significant"? If a tree falls in the forest

It is also complicated by potential priming of the immune system by vaccine, with a later virus exposure triggering activation perhaps months later. Vax => COVID => myocarditis.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 04:02 PM (cPDW+)

186 I'm waiting to see if anyone shows up to work on my central heat this week. They said they might. I am tempted to get stove pipe and set up my tent heater in the laundry room. But then I'd need to find firewood.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 09, 2022 03:32 PM (uz3Px)

You are on the plains, now. Try buffalo chips!

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 04:02 PM (xhaym)

187 There are some yogurt brands that taste sour (Nancy's Yogurt comes to mind). I was able to get a Greek yogurt, sweetened with honey, locally and that one is not sour. I don't usually substitute yogurt for anything. I have it for breakfast with blueberries.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 09, 2022 04:02 PM (uz3Px)

188 The buffalo are elusive out here!

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 09, 2022 04:04 PM (uz3Px)

189 NOOD FOOD

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2022 04:04 PM (llON8)

190 Chile?
Never mind the debate about beans or carrots. I maintain that there should not be any e's in chili.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 03:37 PM (cPDW+)

Truly, Bernardo O'Higgins made Chile what it is today.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2022 04:05 PM (xhaym)

191 Jay Guevara, never watch the commercials! Not healthy.

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2022 04:05 PM (/RDPd)

192 Since Jay is here: could you flush a water system with dilute nitric acid to get rid of the scale, say in your water heater? Dilute it down to 5 or 10 percent. I understand that nitrate salts of pretty much all common cations are readily soluble.

I expect one would have to neutralize with a mild base, and then flush several times with plain water.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2022 03:58 PM (+n6ha)
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You're right, nitrate salts are almost all soluble, but ... I'd be leery of putting nitric acid onto anything I'd want to keep. The course you're proposing could well work, but whether you just created another problem would depend critically on the nitric acid concentration. For my part, I wouldn't do this, because I have no idea what concentration of nitric acid would be low enough not to cause problems.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 04:08 PM (YqDXo)

193
Water softeners work by complexing calcium cations on an ion-exchange resin. The sodium in the salt is used in the recycle to replace the calcium with sodium ions. The calcium chloride is then flushed out of the system.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2022 04:17 PM (k63Z3)

194 It is also complicated by potential priming of the immune system by vaccine, with a later virus exposure triggering activation perhaps months later. Vax => COVID => myocarditis.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 09, 2022 04:02 PM (cPDW+)
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Thanks! I was suspected of having had a heart attack last year, five months after the vaccine, but after extended testing (incl. cardioangiography and echocardiography) my cardiologist said my ticker was fine (no blockages, or elevation of troponin levels, but ... elevated D-dimer levels, suggestive of a dissolved clot, I understand). My cardiologist thinks I had COVID, and pooh-poohs my testing negative for it. I'm still gradually recovering, but we're still trying to figure what the hell happened that put me in bed for a month (and included overnight stints for observation in the ER).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 04:20 PM (YqDXo)

195 Squirrels keep eating my pansies. Little bastards.

Posted by: jewells45 at October 09, 2022 04:21 PM (nxdel)

196 Muldoon, bringing professional knowledge and wisdom to the Horde. What a blessed place this is.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 09, 2022 04:22 PM (aurj9)

197 Muldoon, bringing professional knowledge and wisdom to the Horde. What a blessed place this is.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 09, 2022 04:22 PM (aurj9)
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Yes, indeed, on both counts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 09, 2022 04:23 PM (YqDXo)

198 Central Heating is NOT the same as a forced air furnace.

Central heating is ONE gas heater in the middle of the house.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at October 09, 2022 04:27 PM (C1rbv)

199 Boiler supply shops used to stock solutions to put into the circuit and dissolve scale. Probably not for first-timers, and the shit that comes out is an awful mess. Lots of rump-engineers will tell you that no closed system should ever have tap water in it. Real steam systems distill their water first; I've known hot-water systems that ran antifreeze mixes just to avoid what's in water. I expect it's different in the Navy...

If your real concern is keeping interior air moist, the best you can do is a ventless gas burner. Some may not trust these. One big room on our property has a thermostat-controlled gas fire log. Natural gas has a yuuge amount of water in it, released on combustion. Forced-air gas furnaces have those heat exchangers that force that nice moisture out the flue.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 09, 2022 04:40 PM (x61Im)

200 Natural gas has a yuuge amount of water in it, released on combustion. Forced-air gas furnaces have those heat exchangers that force that nice moisture out the flue.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver

A little carbon monoxide never hurt anybody.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 09, 2022 04:44 PM (AsdHF)

201 What you do have is a small window within the window (a fortochka)
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Sounds like Mexican slang

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 09, 2022 04:45 PM (aurj9)

202 A little carbon monoxide never hurt anybody.

Ventless gas heater. Look it up if you don't believe me.

Gas ranges used to require an exhaust hood and a vent. They don't anymore. Think that's an oversight?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 09, 2022 04:52 PM (x61Im)

203 135 Woke Broadway Revival of Classic ‘1776’ Musical Casts Transgender, ‘Non-Binary’ Actors: ‘Trans People Have Always Existed — They Existed in 1776’
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If they existed then, they at least had the good breeding to keep their mouths shut.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist
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VDH as part of his last podcast discusses sexual dysphoria and cites a poet (you knew it) from antiquity on the subject.

Sexual deviancy existed then as now but in the normal percentile of the population as it was here (

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205 I had no idea there were actual pit snipes onboard this horde. 'Steamin' Demons.

Posted by: madtom at October 09, 2022 05:46 PM (go+84)

206 There is a website that explains all about steam radiator systems and their "care and feeding".
These systems were all engineered by the "dead men".
Get the book titled: We Got Steam Heat!: A Homeowner's Guide to Peaceful Coexistence.

The website is www.heatinghelp.com

Posted by: boilermaker81 at October 09, 2022 08:56 PM (i9SsZ)

207 If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Taking old equipment apart can cause a lot of mi$ery!

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