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DeSantis. Is. A. Genius.

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Breaking all precedents, Biden won't -- or more likely, can't -- talk to DeSantis to make arrangements for the coming hurricane.

President Joe Biden hasn't spoken with Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida about the state's forthcoming hurricane.

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Biden has called other Florida elected officials. He spoke over the phone with Tampa Mayor Jane Castor Tampa and St. Petersburg Mayor Ken Welsh -- both Democrats -- and with Clearwater Mayor Frank Hibbard, a centrist Republican. The storm is set to hit all three cities.

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Biden acknowledged the calls with mayors later in the day before kicking off a public event in the Rose Garden aimed at discussing healthcare costs. He did not mention DeSantis.

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Presidents and governors typically hold a phone call at a time of natural disasters so presidents can offer federal support and bipartisanship. The Florida governor's office didn't immediately respond to an Insider inquiry on the matter.

I don't think he's capable of having a fluid conversation. I don't think his handlers want him talking with someone who might talk about any mental infirmities he shows on the phone calls.

Maybe his fee-fees are just hurt from DeSantis making fun of him.

Matteo Renzi, who led the center-left coalition against Giorgia Meloni's center-right coalition, calls the American propaganda press' hyperventilation about a resurgence of fascism in Italy "absolutely fake news." Remember, he's a man of the left and he's saying this is complete bullshit.

But CNN refuses to report it, says Ed Morrissey.

He defended her from charges that she was a "danger to democracy:"

"Personally I was against Georgia Meloni. I'm not her best friend. We are rivals but she is not a danger to democracy. The idea there is a risk of fascism in Italy is absolutely fake news."

You know where you can't find that reported, however? CNN. A search for "Renzi" comes up with 195 results, but the most recent is from July. The clip does not appear in the transcripts for the last couple of days. The only real mention of this CNN interview by CNN comes up in an edited clip on yesterday's Connect the World, in video but not in print. Becky Anderson introduces part of her interview with Renzi, which may or may not have been the same as from this clip above....

Anderson's Twitter handle is in the above clip. Perhaps it's not the same interview, but at one time or another, Renzi told Anderson that a return to fascism is "absolutely fake news." Why not play that declaration, especially since it goes directly to the point Anderson made in this intro?

The lack of reporting on this rather newsworthy tidbit from the news organization that created it raises suspicions of narrative journalism surrounding the Italian election results.

It's pretty damning when you quote around the part of the interview that directly addresses the Main Narrative you've been shitting out of your mouths for 48 hours.

Biden's Miracle Economy is officially now a bear market. Because it's so Strong, you understand.


Flashback, July 6: Chrystia Freeland, the Deputy PM of Canada, announced that eight (Canadian) dollar a gallon gasoline was probably a good thing because it reminds us all of the importance of climate action.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's World Economic Forum-linked finance minister told Canadians on Tuesday that record-high fuel prices are a "reminder of why climate action is so important and why as a country we need to work even harder and move even faster towards a green economy."

"It's an insurance policy against higher energy prices," Liberal Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland said at a press conference.

She's such a leftwing Champagne Socialist c**** she could be Biden's Energy Secretary!

I think there should be a ban on World Economic Forum members ever flying in private planes again. I think they should be forced to take state-owned helicopters.


Karine Jean-Pierre's been having a time of it:

Posted by: Ace at 06:47 PM




Comments

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1 Is Nazi Pelosi riding a bicycle in the wind?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 27, 2022 06:49 PM (eGTCV)

2 >>I don't think he's capable of having a fluid conversation. I don't think his handlers want him talking with someone who might talk about any mental infirmities he shows on the phone calls.

Just a random idea, or is a link missing?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 27, 2022 06:49 PM (eto3W)

3 Was I first?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 27, 2022 06:49 PM (eGTCV)

4 oops, wrong paste.

I meant to paste the bit about the WEF and helicopters. Is a link missing?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 27, 2022 06:50 PM (eto3W)

5 Damn. Fred Ward died.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 27, 2022 06:50 PM (QSjkU)

6 My guess is Biden's handlers are just being bitchy. They seem to mistake that for strength.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:51 PM (dNqv+)

7 Take off the stupid mask, Michigan woman!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2022 06:51 PM (63Dwl)

8 I mean LOOK at Rings of Power.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:51 PM (dNqv+)

9 The Atlanta Gang Bangers has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: kraken at September 27, 2022 06:51 PM (Vr12I)

10 5 Damn. Fred Ward died.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 27, 2022 06:50 PM (QSjkU)

A couple months ago, right?

He was awesome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:52 PM (dNqv+)

11 Damn you Ace O'Spades and your stealth early edits!

I guess you caught it as the random text is now gone.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 27, 2022 06:52 PM (eto3W)

12 Chrystia Freeland - I'd compare her to Ilsa but the actress who played Ilsa was a physically attractive woman.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at September 27, 2022 06:52 PM (xxG/v)

13 >>>
I meant to paste the bit about the WEF and helicopters. Is a link missing?

i moved it down to where it's supposed to be, after the chrystia freeland flashback

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 06:52 PM (B3oWe)

14 The Atlanta Cowards works, especially if they cave and change the name.

Posted by: Roy at September 27, 2022 06:53 PM (Ti+Tv)

15 The Atlanta Gang Bangers has a nice ring to it.
Posted by: kraken at September 27, 2022 06:51 PM (Vr12I)

If they can't be Braves, they should become Pussies.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2022 06:53 PM (5s54T)

16 What possible use would Mush Head be in an emergency anyway?? DeSantis is fortunate.

Posted by: kraken at September 27, 2022 06:53 PM (Vr12I)

17 The financial gal in the hot pink top is kind of cute.

Tell me about depressions, baby.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:53 PM (dNqv+)

18 Boy, that Biden spokes idiot has to be the dumbest dunce to ever stand at that podium. You might as well be talking to a wooden tiki statue.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2022 06:53 PM (vBMpQ)

19 Didn't Chelsea Clinton once lament that her grandmother had not aborted her mother?

That is cold, man. Cold.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at September 27, 2022 06:54 PM (Kbz60)

20 Chrystia Freeland - I'd compare her to Ilsa but the actress who played Ilsa was a physically attractive woman.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at September 27, 2022 06:52 PM (xxG/v)

She's 200 pounds of shit stuffed into a hundred-pound sack, and a Nazi to boot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2022 06:54 PM (5s54T)

21 Down 7.6 Trillion dollars?? Guess that would be a record. Just not the kind the Resident meant.

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 27, 2022 06:54 PM (tQL7r)

22 Or, they are trying to force DeSantis to call Biden as groveling.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:54 PM (dNqv+)

23 So much stupid.

Posted by: SMH at September 27, 2022 06:54 PM (ijxcW)

24 18 Boy, that Biden spokes idiot has to be the dumbest dunce to ever stand at that podium. You might as well be talking to a wooden tiki statue.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2022 06:53 PM (vBMpQ)

Jim Henson would discard her.

Posted by: kraken at September 27, 2022 06:54 PM (Vr12I)

25 Psaki's face has been updated.

Posted by: Ktgreat at September 27, 2022 06:55 PM (ei7q6)

26 Reminder, Elsa Schneider

https://tinyurl.com/y8jdrfmp

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:55 PM (dNqv+)

27 7 Take off the stupid mask, Michigan woman!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2022 06:51 PM (63Dwl)
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1) Grosse Pointe
2) Person of Colour
3) Person of Oldness

That's a mask trifecta.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 27, 2022 06:55 PM (Dc2NZ)

28 10 5 Damn. Fred Ward died.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 27, 2022 06:50 PM (QSjkU)

A couple months ago, right?

He was awesome.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:52 PM (dNqv+)

He could kill graboids and those shriekers, that's for sure.

Posted by: Roy at September 27, 2022 06:56 PM (Ti+Tv)

29 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Jen Psaki, Former Interlocutus of the Republic & Still a Fake Redhead at September 27, 2022 06:56 PM (a3Q+t)

30 Just a random idea, or is a link missing?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 27, 2022 06:49 PM (eto3W)


can you imagine DeSantis on the line with Biden, and starting the basic cognative test?
We are starting to mobilize National Guard units, putting them on 24 hour notice on, um, Mr President, can you tell me what today's date is?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2022 06:56 PM (xhaym)

31 >>>Jim Henson would discard her.


hah.

She'd be a discount Chinese knockoff muppet. She'd be a Moopett.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 06:56 PM (B3oWe)

32 23 So much stupid.
Posted by: SMH at September 27, 2022 06:54 PM (ijxcW)

Hey! That hurts.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:56 PM (dNqv+)

33 I think Kamala should be the hurricane czar and point person for Joe.

She certainly knows how to blow and go.

Posted by: Czech Chick at September 27, 2022 06:56 PM (haWye)

34 She's 200 pounds of shit stuffed into a hundred-pound sack, and a Nazi to boot.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2022 06:54 PM (5s54T)

********

Yup. She has all the rest of Ilsa down pat.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at September 27, 2022 06:56 PM (xxG/v)

35 25 Psaki's face has been updated.
Posted by: Ktgreat at September 27, 2022 06:55 PM (ei7q6)

Peppermint Patty 2.1

Posted by: kraken at September 27, 2022 06:56 PM (Vr12I)

36
If they can't be Braves, they should become Pussies.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Squaws?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2022 06:56 PM (63Dwl)

37 why would deSantis want to talk to Biden about hurricanes? Biden at this point barely knows which end of the fork goes into the soup bowl.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 27, 2022 06:56 PM (kFrCu)

38 'Tomahawks', the 'Atlanta Tomahawks'. There's nothing racist-ty about that is there?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at September 27, 2022 06:57 PM (g6tw6)

39 >>>>I think there should be a ban on World Economic Forum members ever flying in private planes again. I think they should be forced to take state-owned helicopters.

////

Ace! Disappointed....where's your cruelty when we need it? Don't let the WEF go anywhere! Ground every last one of them!!

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 27, 2022 06:57 PM (tQL7r)

40 calls the American propaganda press' hyperventilation about a resurgence of fascism in Italy

==


Not just US, it's like the UK propaganda machine and the US propaganda machine are joined at the hit, I mean hip (see what I did there ?)...over there - "far right" , "fascist- adjacent" are just some of the monikers. "Ms Meloni, head of the far-right party " , every time her name is mentioned.

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 06:57 PM (V13WU)

41 Fig 124. pg. 272. The Hurricane and Its Impact

The Tampa area averages 1 hurricane of over 120KpH every 17 years. For hurricanes over 200KpH, that is every 85 years.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 06:57 PM (Syqns)

42 >>>Ace! Disappointed....where's your cruelty when we need it? Don't let the WEF go anywhere! Ground every last one of them!!


i think sometimes people who fly on state-owned helicopters wind up meeting the ground

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 06:57 PM (B3oWe)

43 Atlanta Aztecs

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:57 PM (dNqv+)

44 Or, they are trying to force DeSantis to call Biden as groveling.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:54 PM (dNqv+)
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These people only think about winning the current news cycle. So if Florida takes a big hit, DeSantis will get wall-to-wall coverage reminding voters that Biden did not call him and did not offer aid, but HE, DARTH SANTIS HIMSELF, will save the day.

And he will use the Florida State Guard to do it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 06:58 PM (llXky)

45 10 5 Damn. Fred Ward died.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 27, 2022 06:50 PM (QSjkU)

A couple months ago, right?

He was awesome.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:52 PM (dNqv+)



Back around May 8th. Damn, time flies.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 27, 2022 06:58 PM (ZSK0i)

46 Someone really should have a talk with Psaki about her hair style.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at September 27, 2022 06:58 PM (g6tw6)

47 She certainly knows how to blow and go.
Posted by: Czech Chick at September 27, 2022 06:56 PM

*rimshot*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 27, 2022 06:58 PM (Wnv9h)

48 Willowed:

One conclusion we can draw from the pipeline story; we've been talking a lot about how Germany is going to have a bad, frozen winter with most of their industry shut down. Someone just pulled a black op with their military to guarantee it.

I was actually going to post a comment a couple of days ago noting that natural gas futures prices in Europe had come down quite a bit - still very high, but not as catastrophically high as they had been earlier.

With the sabotage of the pipeline, the natural gas futures prices have gone back to catastrophic.

This is quite deliberate.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2022 06:58 PM (I2/tG)

49 They really , really, really want you to get it in your head that Ms. Meloni is a second coming of Mussolini.

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 06:58 PM (V13WU)

50 Newsom had to admit that Trump called him at every emergency in California, said the government help was at his disposal. Trump made sure the process went smoothly.

This petty POS Biden is total white trash.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 27, 2022 06:59 PM (H8QX8)

51 Desantis is in cahoots with the Jews?

Posted by: fd at September 27, 2022 06:59 PM (sn5EN)

52 My guess is Biden's handlers are just being bitchy. They seem to mistake that for strength.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

////

Right? What a bunch of freaking whiners. Grates on my last nerve.

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 27, 2022 06:59 PM (tQL7r)

53 i think sometimes people who fly on state-owned helicopters wind up meeting the ground

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 06:57 PM (B3oWe)
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Do yourself a favor and read my book on Spain.

Timely plane crashes were involved there, too.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 06:59 PM (llXky)

54 Atlanta Vote Frauds

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2022 06:59 PM (xhxe8)

55 The WEF members should be forced to travel in an open mule-drawn buggy where all of the mules have a bad case of gas.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at September 27, 2022 07:00 PM (xxG/v)

56 Parlando con alcuni dei miei amici italiani, alcuni di sinistra, hey erano molto incazzati con gli americani per averli chiamati media chiamandoli fascisti. Non capiscono quanto siano odiati i fascisti in tutti i partiti.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2022 07:00 PM (vBMpQ)

57 46 Someone really should have a talk with Psaki about her hair style.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at September 27, 2022 06:58 PM (g6tw6)

"The Rachel" > "The Karen" > "The Psaki"

Posted by: Roy at September 27, 2022 07:00 PM (Ti+Tv)

58 KJP is a Floppet

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:00 PM (Syqns)

59 Atlanta Aztecs

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:57 PM (dNqv+)

Out: Tomahawk Chop

In: Ripping the hearts out of opposing players

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 27, 2022 07:00 PM (xPl2J)

60 This is petty Biden bullshit. He won't talk to DeSantis because he's a MAGA Republican and no way in the world he can associate with him.

Natural disaster? Screw them Floridians who have not risen up and jailed that Nazi yet.

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2022 07:00 PM (KANn/)

61 The left and the media are salivating over the death and destruction this hurricane is going to bring to Florida. They already have the articles written up on how desantis failed the state of Florida and is not up to the task of being president.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 27, 2022 07:00 PM (bVYXr)

62 Someone really should have a talk with Psaki about her hair style.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at September 27, 2022 06:58 PM

A. At least she isn't wearing bangs
II. Compared to the current Cabbage Patch doll?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 27, 2022 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)

63 KJP is DMV America in the White House. This is the future.

Posted by: Now she's retarded and NOT DUTCH at September 27, 2022 07:01 PM (ra9AY)

64 > Damn. Fred Ward died.

Shit.

I'm going to watch Remo Williams tonight, both in his honor and because Joel Grey playing a Korean character triggers the shit out of the communists.

I'll just pretend that Captain Janeway is not in it. At least she was reasonably decorative back then.

In other showbiz news: Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom has been revived. Please don't let it be woke... Please don't let it be woke...

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 27, 2022 07:01 PM (bW8dp)

65 Atlanta Vote Frauds
Posted by: Skip
--------

The Atlanta Leaky Toilets.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at September 27, 2022 07:01 PM (g6tw6)

66 49 They really , really, really want you to get it in your head that Ms. Meloni is a second coming of Mussolini.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 06:58 PM (V13WU)

https://tinyurl.com/23a4bzan

She has very striking eyes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:01 PM (dNqv+)

67 Biden acknowledged the calls with mayors later in the day before kicking off a public event in the Rose Garden aimed at discussing healthcare costs. He did not mention DeSantis.

bet the junta lets Florida citizens languish in an emergency situation for several days of needed assistance. DeSantis and his AG should start a death count and hold the junta civilly liable for each negligent death that could have been averted with proper assistance.

also of note. fartbok blocked a bunch of accounts today for election disinformation. the meme national news used was the old boyfriend looking at another girl over his shoulder while his girlfriend gives him the glare. only someone had photo shopped zelenski's head on the girlfrined and the taiwan leader on the other girl.

Posted by: BifBewalski - @ (3CCua) at September 27, 2022 07:01 PM (3CCua)

68 Thanks Skip !

Posted by: JT at September 27, 2022 07:02 PM (T4tVD)

69 And I thought B.O. was King Shit Midas.

Posted by: wth at September 27, 2022 07:02 PM (v0R5T)

70 Miss me yet?
Posted by: Jen Psaki, Former Interlocutus of the Republic & Still a Fake Redhead

////

Absolutely not!

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 27, 2022 07:02 PM (tQL7r)

71 I think there should be a ban on World Economic Forum members

FIFY

Posted by: Methos at September 27, 2022 07:02 PM (kOpft)

72 Damn. Fred Ward died.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

damnit. how is Remo Williams gonna stop the graboids in Nevada now?

RIP Fred.

Posted by: BifBewalski - @ (3CCua) at September 27, 2022 07:02 PM (3CCua)

73 My guess is Biden's handlers are just being bitchy. They seem to mistake that for strength.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:51 PM (dNqv+)
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In the original Battlestar Galactica, there was a mutiny on a prison ship and in the original, the leader boldly confronted them in person.

In the rebooted version, the leaders took all their families hostages and said they'd kill them unless they surrendered.

This was hailed as "tough" and "super-masculine" by the soyboys who watched the show.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:02 PM (llXky)

74 Saw some numb nuts comment today " I bet those people in the path of that hurricane wish they voted for Biden now" I mean wtf is that even supposed to mean?

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2022 07:03 PM (yezA1)

75 The US media cannot refer to Georgia Meloni's party without adding the "far-right" qualifier.

If your party gains the majority, it cannot be "far-right" by definition.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 27, 2022 07:03 PM (g1EEm)

76 think Kamala should be the hurricane czar and point person for Joe.

She certainly knows how to blow and go.
Posted by: Czech Chick

////

ISWYDT

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 27, 2022 07:03 PM (tQL7r)

77 I'm sorry, has anyone asked the Hurricane with what gender it identifies? For all we know, it should have a female name.

BIGOTS!!!! RACISTS!!!!! YANKEE FANS!!!! (that last one is a personal preference of insultation).

Posted by: Orson at September 27, 2022 07:04 PM (3XJSp)

78 https://tinyurl.com/23a4bzan

She has very striking eyes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:01 PM (dNqv+)

Also an example of how a simple smile can transform a woman, all other things being equal.

https://tinyurl.com/mr3ttpwt

Damn. I love women.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:04 PM (dNqv+)

79 "Chrystia Freeland, the Deputy PM of Canada, announced that eight (Canadian) dollar a gallon gasoline was probably a good thing because it reminds us all of the importance of widespread poverty"

fixed it for you

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 27, 2022 07:04 PM (kFrCu)

80 74 Saw some numb nuts comment today " I bet those people in the path of that hurricane wish they voted for Biden now" I mean wtf is that even supposed to mean?
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2022 07:03 PM (yezA1)
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I bet those people devastated by California wildfires wish they'd voted for Trump!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 27, 2022 07:04 PM (Dc2NZ)

81 I mean wtf is that even supposed to mean?
Posted by: steevy


It means if they'd voted for Biden, Biden would have stopped all the hurricanes dummy.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 27, 2022 07:04 PM (g1EEm)

82 Doocy asks some good questions, but KJP just has to sweat a bit for a couple of minutes shucking and jiving her way through a non-response. She mostly gets to cruise through the rest of the press conference with relative ease. The other reporters should be ashamed they can't make KJP work a bit. But, no, they have no shame.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 27, 2022 07:04 PM (fs1hN)

83 Hiya

Posted by: JT at September 27, 2022 07:05 PM (T4tVD)

84 European Fascism was all set to be The Future of the World if it weren't for that insane Austrian creep horning in on their action.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:05 PM (6FeV1)

85 They really , really, really want you to get it in your head that Ms. Meloni is a second coming of Mussolini.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 06:58 PM (V13WU)


When I was in school the joke was the Frat boys would sit around complaining about the chick they tried to hook up with who wouldn't put out and said no, they speculated that such chicks were lesbians

Fascism as far as I can tell now an accusation that means "some one, or some group that said no to the scheduled economic and political plans"

Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2022 07:05 PM (xhaym)

86 Juicy piece in Vanity Fair. Would love to see Trump answer these questions:

DeSantis tells donors that, if he takes on Trump, he would launch a full frontal attack on his record and competence, according to a GOP source briefed on the conversations. “DeSantis says the only way to beat Trump is to attack him head-on. He says he would turn to Trump during a debate and say, ‘Why didn’t you fire Fauci? You said you would build the wall, but there is no wall. Why is that?’ ”

Posted by: Valiant at September 27, 2022 07:05 PM (cy2xC)

87
This was hailed as "tough" and "super-masculine" by the soyboys who watched the show.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:02 PM (llXky)

THIS. THIS. FUCKING THIS!

You have trod on a pet peeve of mine and something that insanely pisses me off. In all the sturm and drang about J6, NOT ONE OF THESE FUCKING CONGRESS CRITTERS WENT OUT TO THEM AND CONFRONTED THE RIOTEERS.

That says, more than anything, two things:
-we are ruled by a bunch of fucking cowards
-they were ALSO all in on the Reichstag fire

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:06 PM (dNqv+)

88 "The Rachel" > "The Karen" > "The Psaki"

Posted by: Roy at September 27, 2022 07:00 PM (Ti+Tv)
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Given the attention to the original story, I thought ace would find it funny that Rachel Dolezal's been reduced to an OnlyFans peepshow, but the wily ewok has shown that none shall know what truly interests him.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:06 PM (llXky)

89 Eight dollars a gallon for gas and/or diesel.

Won't that put a lot of farmers and ranchers out of business, if not immediately, very soon in the future? Just another way in which these a*****es are attacking our food system. They really do want to kill us off.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at September 27, 2022 07:06 PM (xxG/v)

90 Saw some numb nuts comment today " I bet those people in the path of that hurricane wish they voted for Biden now" I mean wtf is that even supposed to mean?
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2022 07:03 PM (yezA1)

They are advance-hyping this hurricane so much, I expect it will just fizzle out. Blow down a few trees, flood a few Democrat-infested trailer parks. No biggie.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2022 07:06 PM (5s54T)

91 >>>>I think sometimes people who fly on state-owned helicopters wind up meeting the ground
Posted by: ace



Ooooooohh, got ya. Chuy does not disappoint! 👏

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 27, 2022 07:06 PM (tQL7r)

92 I'm sorry, has anyone asked the Hurricane with what gender it identifies?
Posted by: Orson


I know, right? People are so insensitive. Ian is my deadname.

Posted by: Hurricane Loretta at September 27, 2022 07:06 PM (g1EEm)

93 I get why everyone focuses on the stock market, your 401's are bleeding . Meanwhile, the bond market is going to shit. 10 yr treasuries will probably hit 4 % this week. That should concern people. Foreign buyers have been walking away for awhile . Now I think they are running

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 27, 2022 07:07 PM (XY2CK)

94 I trust Vanity Fair like a trust this glass of prune juice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:07 PM (dNqv+)

95 Juicy piece in Vanity Fair.

Posted by: Valiant at September 27, 2022 07:05 PM (cy2xC)
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I'm sure you spilled a lot of your juices while reading it, too.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:07 PM (llXky)

96 We prefer to call it... "Express Disembarkation".

Posted by: Cpt. Warai-otoko, Pinochet Airlines at September 27, 2022 07:07 PM (6FeV1)

97 https://tinyurl.com/23a4bzan

She has very striking eyes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:01 PM (dNqv+)
........

She looks like she knows exactly what she wants.
"You ready for this?"

Posted by: wth at September 27, 2022 07:07 PM (v0R5T)

98 When Biden is finally out of Washington, will he have been the worst President ever or will he have been the worst President fo evah evah?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (mZ3xv)

99 Posted by: Valiant at September 27, 2022 07:05 PM (cy2xC)

The one-trick pony turns his trick again. Ho, hum.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (5s54T)

100 Far right, hard right, extreme right we like to mix things up to keep it fresh
The Press

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (yezA1)

101 Good lord. Imagine being Renzi or any other foreign leader looking at a nuclear superpower turned banana republic, whose population is in the grips of a mind virus, and whose leadership is so corrupt that Noriega would turn his face in shame, running around the world attacking gas pipelines without provocation, pointing the finger of blame at *your* country, and calling *you* authoritarians, over a routine shift of power in your own elections...

This is chilling, and appalling. If America could see what it looked like, it would get in the bathtub with a fuckin' toaster.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (oINRc)

102 European Fascism was all set to be The Future of the World if it weren't for that insane Austrian creep horning in on their action.

If Mussolini hadn't been an idiot, he would have died of old age, like Franco.

And we would have happily admitted Mussolini's Italy into NATO, like Franco's Spain.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (I2/tG)

103 If there was an independent media one thing they would focus on endlessly is exactly what if any abortion restrictions leftwing figures support.

But the FNM won't because it would force those Dem pols to adopt more moderate positions.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (ESjRY)

104 European Fascism was all set to be The Future of the World if it weren't for that insane Austrian creep horning in on their action.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:05 PM (6FeV1)

...or Socialism...explains the war , no ?

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (V13WU)

105 Call them MAGA Extremist Italians

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (yezA1)

106 I really started to fear dementia with my mother when she would misspeak and if I asked her to clarify she would either get angry, or reveal a deep confusion about basic things like what year it was.

She could play if off really well as long as you overlooked those simple slips. I am convinced that people's brains are evolved to hide cognitive shortcomings so they appear smart to others, and dementia patients leverage that.

DeSantis would not overlook the shortcomings and would pry on details. I doubt anyone else FJB talks to would be as challenging.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (eto3W)

107 Doocy asks some good questions, but KJP just has to sweat a bit for a couple of minutes shucking and jiving her way through a non-response.

Doocy will eventually be charged with cruelty to animals.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (KFhLj)

108 re 86: quoting Vanity Fair is like quoting Keith Olbermann. Green shit and brown shit are still, you know.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (kFrCu)

109 "Under President Biden’s leadership, we’ve fought to restore the soul of this nation and unite the country.

But if MAGA Republicans take power, women could lose the right to choose. The right to contraception and marriage equality could be at risk.

Democrats are fighting back to make sure that doesn’t happen, but we need your help.

We need to hit Friday’s goal. Read President Biden’s message, and be one of the 21 more supporters we need from XXXXXX to chip in $7 ahead of our fundraising deadline."

The amount ($7) is constant, but the number of supporters seems to vary from email to email. When asked, the Magic 8-Ball said of the probability of that number being something they just make up: "It is certain."

Also, Beto (now 50 years and 1 day old) wants $3 to fight back against NRA radio ads smearing Beto.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (a3Q+t)

110 77 I'm sorry, has anyone asked the Hurricane with what gender it identifies? For all we know, it should have a female name.

-----
Corporal Bearclaw's wife is on it:

Rachel Vindman 🌻
@natsechobbyist
We should use they/them pronouns for hurricane Ian to annoy DeSantis.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (9bp5t)

111 Desantis is in cahoots with the Jews?
Posted by: fd

"Kiss the Wall or Take the Fall" said every post WWII candidate and meteorologist ever.

Posted by: AIPAC at September 27, 2022 07:09 PM (ra9AY)

112 Vanity Fair? How can I tell you are gay?

Posted by: fd at September 27, 2022 07:09 PM (sn5EN)

113 the world is a mess

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:09 PM (V13WU)

114 Parlando con alcuni dei miei amici italiani, alcuni di sinistra, hey erano molto incazzati con gli americani per averli chiamati media chiamandoli fascisti. Non capiscono quanto siano odiati i fascisti in tutti i partiti.

so i'm not an esperto or anything but here are some corrections. First, what's "hey" doing in there?

"parlando" should be "sto parlando"

"alcuni di sinistra" = "alcuni essendo di sinestra", I think, Or it should be "some of whom on the left" but I can't think of how to say "of whom" right now. "di cui," maybe?

"per averli chiamati media chiamandoli" there are too many verbs here, you repeat "called" and then "calling them." "per averli chiamti i fascisti." or just maybe just leave it in the infinitive: "per chiamarli i fascisti."



Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:09 PM (B3oWe)

115 https://tinyurl.com/23a4bzan

She has very striking eyes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:01 PM (dNqv+)


I wish she'd stop giving me those come Hitler eyes!

*oops, hither. I mean hither!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:09 PM (mZ3xv)

116 Bought Wendy's breakfast today for first time in a couple years. Tastes nasty, and way too expensive.

Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at September 27, 2022 07:09 PM (24fqN)

117 They are advance-hyping this hurricane so much, I expect it will just fizzle out. Blow down a few trees, flood a few Democrat-infested trailer parks. No biggie.

They desperately, desperately, want a world-class disaster.

The more dead, the better.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2022 07:09 PM (I2/tG)

118 Waiting for MTG to introduce a bill banning WEF and Soros groups from operating in the USA. Not sure exactly how to do it to pass constitutional muster, but it needs to be done.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 27, 2022 07:09 PM (fs1hN)

119 "alcuni di cui della sinestra," forse

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:10 PM (B3oWe)

120 This is chilling, and appalling. If America could see what it looked like, it would get in the bathtub with a fuckin' toaster.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (oINRc)

If America finally gets the full on Pariah status it deserves, it's basically a hop skip and a jump away from full on Juche.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:10 PM (6FeV1)

121 It means if they'd voted for Biden, Biden would have stopped all the hurricanes dummy.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 27, 2022 07:04 PM (g1EEm)
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It's part of the Yard Sign Calvinism of the left. If a hurricane trashes a red state, well, they had it coming. "Where are your thoughts and prayers NOW?!" they mock.

But if their DoorDash is 10 minutes late, it's a crime against humanity and their suffering is on par with the greatest of the saints.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:10 PM (llXky)

122 Leftists but Europeans mostly love the "Utra Right" lable to mean Fascists or Nazis, following the Communists definition.

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2022 07:10 PM (xhxe8)

123 really, the only thing 'fascism' means is a dictator or some sort or other. It's become an otherwise meaningless term.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 27, 2022 07:10 PM (kFrCu)

124 26 Reminder, Elsa Schneider

https://tinyurl.com/y8jdrfmp

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 06:55 PM (dNqv+)

She reminds me of a story. Maybe in the ONT, after a scotch or two, I'll relate it.

She was a real beauty.

Posted by: Javems at September 27, 2022 07:10 PM (AmoqO)

125 They desperately, desperately, want a world-class disaster.

The more dead, the better.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2022 07:09 PM (I2/tG)

These idiots will just run Katrina footage and dare anyone to notice.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:10 PM (6FeV1)

126 (cy2xC)

The sick cyst is back

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:11 PM (Syqns)

127 European Fascism was all set to be The Future of the World if it weren't for that insane Austrian creep horning in on their action.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:05 PM (6FeV1)


Italian fascism was supposed to be the third way to mediate between the communist and anarcho-syndicalist movements and Italian industry to resolve the riots and violence to have all the parties consulted. It was in a way a cartelization of industry with workers overseen by the Italian government, and like all such plans, the government wound up in total control.

"When governments can determine what can be bought and sold, the first thing bought is the government itself"

Ralph Raico, a deep historian of Fascism and other majoritarian systems of the 20th Century viewed Italian Fascism with contempt, and stated that it was, in his opinion, unable to successfully run a Gelato stand.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2022 07:11 PM (xhaym)

128 I noted that one of the definitions of "fascism" on dictionary.com was "right wing." Don't they even look at what Mussolini said/wrote? "All within the State, Nothing outside the State, Nothing against the State." Yeah, sounds like a real "small government" kinda guy.

Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at September 27, 2022 07:11 PM (zSyrn)

129 And we would have happily admitted Mussolini's Italy into NATO, like Franco's Spain.

I thought Spain was excluded until after Franco, but I could be mistaken.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 27, 2022 07:11 PM (KFhLj)

130 25 Psaki's face has been updated.

Posted by: Ktgreat at September 27, 2022 06:55 PM (ei7q6)


The MSNBC makeup troops also glue her hair so she does not have to use her hands to brush it out of her face every 5 seconds.

Posted by: Gref at September 27, 2022 07:11 PM (AMIL/)

131 118 Waiting for MTG to introduce a bill banning WEF and Soros groups from operating in the USA. Not sure exactly how to do it to pass constitutional muster, but it needs to be done.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 27, 2022 07:09 PM (fs1hN)

Soros is wanted by nations we have extradition treaties with.

I truly don't know how this is difficult.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:12 PM (6FeV1)

132 > Also, Beto (now 50 years and 1 day old) wants $3 to fight back against NRA radio ads smearing Beto.


"Smearing" Betx how? Claiming that he wants to take away people's guns when he's on motherfucking video threatening to take away people's guns?

I wonder how many failed runs he has before his FIL gets tired off footing the bill for the shiftless layabout.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 27, 2022 07:12 PM (bW8dp)

133 Is it makeup, lighting or a tan?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 27, 2022 07:12 PM (PAY0n)

134 If Mussolini hadn't been an idiot, he would have died of old age, like Franco.

And we would have happily admitted Mussolini's Italy into NATO, like Franco's Spain.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2022 07:08 PM (I2/tG)
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Lots of truth here. All he had to do was stay neutral - as Franco did - and the Brits would have rewarded him handsomely. Churchill would have insisted on it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:12 PM (llXky)

135 Steve Ducey is great. He goes right at the Biden spokesmouths. Their double talk is so heinous and bizarre that if people actually saw it, they'd see the Biden administration for what it is.

Posted by: portlandon at September 27, 2022 07:13 PM (+oR7L)

136 re: Biden and stopping hurricanes

As I related in JJ's morning thread there was a former head of the DNC who boasted that 'god was on the side of the Democrats' because of where Hurricane Gustav was going to make landfall.

Democrats are EVIL.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:13 PM (Syqns)

137 European Fascism was all set to be The Future of the World if it weren't for that insane Austrian creep horning in on their action.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:05 PM (6FeV1)

Our betters liked the Austrian version just fine until he invaded the USSR.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 27, 2022 07:13 PM (eoQWY)

138 Stavo parlando con alcuni dei miei amici italiani, alcuni di cui della sinistra, ehi, erano molto incazzati con gli americani per chiamarli fascisti. Non capiscono quanto i fascisti siano odiati in tutti i partiti.

I changed "sto parlando" (I am speaking) to "stavo parlando" (I was speaking)

i might have missed your meaning on "media e fascisti."

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:13 PM (B3oWe)

139 "They desperately, desperately, want a world-class disaster. The more dead, the better."

October Nuclear War. I'm hoping that when it happens, the internet will stay up for a few seconds so I can post a 'told you so' comment.

Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at September 27, 2022 07:13 PM (24fqN)

140 5 They really , really, really want you to get it in your head that Ms. Meloni is a second coming of Mussolini.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 06:58 PM (V13WU)

If she was the second coming of Mussolini, she would have to be a radical Marxist who didn't think other Marxists went far enough.

They have historically switched Fascism to right wing like they switched the racist Democrat party to Republican.

Posted by: polynikes at September 27, 2022 07:13 PM (ml8cs)

141 I'd be a fan for life of the Atlanta Redskins...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at September 27, 2022 07:13 PM (IPShe)

142 In other showbiz news: Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom has been revived. Please don't let it be woke... Please don't let it be woke...
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

"Just as the wild Karen's in their natural habitat kvetch and moan to protect their fragile egos, you too can protect your family with Mutual of Omaha."

Posted by: Tonypete at September 27, 2022 07:13 PM (LsEU/)

143 119 "alcuni di cui della sinestra," forse
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:10 PM (B3oWe)

Google translate made a hash of that, chuy. Italian?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:13 PM (dNqv+)

144 Jen Psaki looks like an over angry pimple that's about to pop.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:14 PM (mZ3xv)

145 Churchill on Italy siding with the Germans in World War II. "Only fair as we had them in the Great War."

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:14 PM (Syqns)

146 It means if they'd voted for Biden, Biden would have stopped all the hurricanes dummy.


Kind of like the way Obama stopped Sandy (2012)

Posted by: Glenn John at September 27, 2022 07:14 PM (M3hSG)

147 >>>Google translate made a hash of that, chuy. Italian?

si

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:14 PM (B3oWe)

148 Yeah I mean a hurricane during the strangely named " hurricane season" hitting Florida is unknown...

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2022 07:15 PM (yezA1)

149 Fascism was just a murderous socialist slave state with Mussolini in charge (hence, "national socialism") rather than a murderous slave state with Stalin in charge ("international socialism").

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 27, 2022 07:15 PM (bW8dp)

150 *deep breath, musters Italian vocabulary*

Si.

Posted by: wth at September 27, 2022 07:15 PM (v0R5T)

151 "Just as the wild Karen's in their natural habitat kvetch and moan to protect their fragile egos, you too can protect your family with Mutual of Omaha."
Posted by: Tonypete at September 27, 2022 07:13 PM (LsEU/)

********

"As Karen wrestles with that 30-foot anaconda..."

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (xxG/v)

152 Churchill on Italy siding with the Germans in World War II. "Only fair as we had them in the Great War."
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:14 PM (Syqns)


that's kinda funny !

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (V13WU)

153 123 really, the only thing 'fascism' means is a dictator or some sort or other. It's become an otherwise meaningless term.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 27, 2022 07:10 PM (kFrCu)

Or just people you just don't like.

Posted by: Javems at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (AmoqO)

154 Never let it be said Joe Biden and the democrats are not ferocious Freedom Fighters.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (IPShe)

155 Translate did much better with the paragraph.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (dNqv+)

156 I thought Spain was excluded until after Franco, but I could be mistaken.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 27, 2022 07:11 PM (KFhLj)
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Yes, NATO was skittish about Franco, but Spain was part of bilateral defense treaties during his lifetime and of course the CETME/G3 was a mainstay of NATO forces. That and the FAL were pretty much icons of the Cold War.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (llXky)

157 DC will probably be the safest place to be in the event of nuclear war. The Russkies would dare not bomb the place, and end all the destruction the Donks are doing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (5s54T)

158 The WEF members should be forced to travel in an open mule-drawn buggy where all of the mules have a bad case of gas.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at

I have a more permanent solution for their travel.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (3p4cr)

159 European Fascism was all set to be The Future of the World if it weren't for that insane Austrian creep horning in on their action.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:05 PM (6FeV1)

Hitler thought Mussolini was the bees knees. He had a big man crush on him. Mussolini thought Hitler was an idiot but to be fair that over the top narcissist thought everyone was an idiot.

Posted by: polynikes at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (ml8cs)

160 I noted that one of the definitions of "fascism" on dictionary.com was "right wing." Don't they even look at what Mussolini said/wrote? "All within the State, Nothing outside the State, Nothing against the State." Yeah, sounds like a real "small government" kinda guy.
Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at September 27, 2022 07:11 PM (zSyrn)

The idea that fascism is right wing comes from the Communists, who wanted that label for themselves.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (eoQWY)

161 124 26 Reminder, Elsa Schneider
________

Pic looks like Catherine Deneuve. (Les Parapluies De Cherbourg, tres belle)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (fs1hN)

162 Kind of like the way Obama stopped Sandy (2012)
Posted by: Glenn John at September 27, 2022 07:14 PM (M3hSG)


There are those who say that Sandy was Trump's fault.

Posted by: Preznit Pantload I at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (AiZBA)

163 Il primo ministro italiano mi fa eccitare!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (mZ3xv)

164 Whelp... this will be all the insurrectionists have...

Nice try however.

Go harass a tranny. Front page newz.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 27, 2022 07:17 PM (BFigT)

165 Psaki's face has been updated.
Posted by: Ktgreat

...to the Zuckerberg model?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at September 27, 2022 07:17 PM (IPShe)

166 154 Never let it be said Joe Biden and the democrats are not ferocious Freedom Fighters.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (IPShe)

"We will fight it on the beaches, we will fight it on ...."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:17 PM (6FeV1)

167 Churchill on Italy siding with the Germans in World War II. "Only fair as we had them in the Great War."
Posted by: Anna Puma

omg, i so needed that laugh. thank you.

Posted by: BifBewalski - @ (3CCua) at September 27, 2022 07:17 PM (3CCua)

168 i think the *adjective* for fascist probably isn't fascisti, I think that's the plural noun. the adjective is probaly fascististi or something.

no, it's the same. I got confused as to whether you were using the adjective or noun. You were using the adjective, I kept changing it to "i fascisti," the plural noun form. an unnecessary/wrong correction.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:17 PM (B3oWe)

169 Franco and Mussolini were two such different men that it's hard to compare them. Even politically, they were really very different people. Certainly religiously.

But from a personal standpoint? Just in different worlds. One key example: Benito was always being bullied or flattered by Adolf. Adolf was always being bullied or flattered by Francisco.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 27, 2022 07:17 PM (oINRc)

170 Juicy piece in Vanity Fair.

Posted by: Valiant
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I'm sure you spilled a lot of your juices while reading it, too.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

////

Oh. My. That's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 27, 2022 07:17 PM (tQL7r)

171 I changed "sto parlando" (I am speaking) to "stavo parlando" (I was speaking)

i might have missed your meaning on "media e fascisti."

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:13 PM (B3oWe)
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What a showoff.

Never change, ace.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:18 PM (llXky)

172 >>> Il primo ministro italiano mi fa eccitare!

Lei me fa toccarme!

"Lei" as in "she," not "Lei" as in Formal You

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:18 PM (B3oWe)

173 > Spain was part of bilateral defense treaties during his lifetime

Sure, the big U.S. naval base at Rota dates back to the '50s.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 27, 2022 07:19 PM (bW8dp)

174
"As Karen wrestles with that 30-foot anaconda..."
Posted by: Sasquatch

when did Paolo get an upgrade?

Posted by: BifBewalski - @ (3CCua) at September 27, 2022 07:19 PM (3CCua)

175 I did a comment on the old plumbbob blog about my breakdown of fascism vs communism vs collectivism (or real world soviet communism.)

My point was that Fascism was not unlike the NEP period during the beginning of the Soviet Union- using free market practices in order to finance the revolution (because communism sucks.)

I think this was naive. The corporatism of the chinese, Germans or even us now is not even really a free market or even elements thereof except in that they both involve money.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:19 PM (dNqv+)

176 Dov'e Ciampino, eh?

I'm sure he'd be getting a kick out of this thread...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:19 PM (6FeV1)

177 >>> but the wily ewok has shown that none shall know what truly interests him.

>Big juicy booty.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 27, 2022 07:19 PM (w2Z7l)

178 "Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:13 PM (B3oWe)"
"Stavo" works. I was rushing.

Stavo cercando di dire che i media hanno la storia italiana ignorante. Probabilmente non sanno nemmeno che Mussolini era un giornalista.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (voHIS)

179
I trust Vanity Fair like a trust this glass of prune juice.
Posted by: Aetius451AD


Almost as much as I trust new, one-name commenters who say something provocative...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (n+4am)

180 >>>What a showoff.

hey if someone is going to open the door, i'm going to walk on through!

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (B3oWe)

181 128 I noted that one of the definitions of "fascism" on dictionary.com was "right wing." Don't they even look at what Mussolini said/wrote? "All within the State, Nothing outside the State, Nothing against the State." Yeah, sounds like a real "small government" kinda guy.
Posted by: CtHillary,

Right wing is a relative term. In their world socialism is a given and that centers their perspective. To the Left is marx, and to the right are those who want a nationalistic form.

It is absurd to equate "right wing socialism" and US right wing small government conservatism.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (eto3W)

182 Churchill on Italy siding with the Germans in World War II. "Only fair as we had them in the Great War."
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:14 PM (Syqns)


that's kinda funny !
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:16 PM (V13WU)

they were actually part of the Triple Alliance with Germany before the war, but were a bit afraid of the Royal Navy and was bought off by promises of chunks of Austria Hungary. Like Romania a year later, the cost of this avarice was very high indeed as they would face their opponents alone and when the Germans themselves were brought it it went very badly.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (eoQWY)

183 Is Ms. Meloni related to Thornton Meloni?

"Remember. You're a Meloni"

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (uPgE/)

184 Fascism = authoritarian socialism
Communism = totalitarian socialism

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (bW8dp)

185 I noted that one of the definitions of "fascism" on dictionary.com was "right wing." Don't they even...

*

They have to say that kind of stuff so that there is SOME kind of "right wing" bad thing.

Because there's really not.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (ikWko)

186 When I think of the Italian Army, it always brings Captain Corelli's Mandolin to mind.

Posted by: kraken at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (Vr12I)

187 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 27, 2022 07:17 PM (oINRc)

Mussolini was also a serial rapist.

Posted by: polynikes at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (ml8cs)

188 The sick cyst is back
Posted by: Anna Puma

You'll never hear Mike Tyson say that.....

Posted by: JT at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (T4tVD)

189 Jen Psaki looks like an over angry pimple that's about to pop.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:14 PM (mZ3xv)
.......

She looks like a head to toe keratosis.

Posted by: wth at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (v0R5T)

190 Churchill on Italy siding with the Germans in World War II. "Only fair as we had them in the Great War."
Posted by: Anna Puma


Kind of. Italy switched sides in both wars. S

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2022 07:21 PM (pwExq)

191 Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita
mi ritrovai per una selva oscura,
ché la diritta via era smarrita.

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:21 PM (V13WU)

192 Be nice if that stock market cutie was down 50%...on me.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2022 07:21 PM (ufFY8)

193 >>>"Stavo" works. I was rushing.
Stavo cercando di dire che i media hanno la storia italiana ignorante. Probabilmente non sanno nemmeno che Mussolini era un giornalista.

ma dai!

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:21 PM (B3oWe)

194 Lots of truth here. All he had to do was stay neutral - as Franco did - and the Brits would have rewarded him handsomely. Churchill would have insisted on it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:12 PM (llXky)


Italy is said to ally with whoever can promise it fuel for its industries, and right now that is not the EU.
Italy invented realpolitik

Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2022 07:21 PM (xhaym)

195 Doocy is a wonder.

Posted by: Ultra pj at September 27, 2022 07:21 PM (G1dq6)

196 But from a personal standpoint? Just in different worlds. One key example: Benito was always being bullied or flattered by Adolf. Adolf was always being bullied or flattered by Francisco.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 27, 2022 07:17 PM (oINRc)
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Franco met with Hitler just once, in the summer of 1940. It did not go well. Franco was famously reticent, but on this occasion decided to chat a bit and one of his favorite topics of conversation was...fighting in Morocco. Franco was a charter member of the Spanish Foreign Legion, and so he liked tell stories of being on campaigns and stuff.

By all accounts, he did go on...

Hitler never met with him again.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:21 PM (llXky)

197 Mussolini was also a serial rapist.
Posted by: polynikes at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (ml8cs)

Like Bill Clinton?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2022 07:22 PM (5s54T)

198 Model building news

HK Models is releasing next month a 1/48 scale B-25J glass nose Mitchell. Except for the recessed panel lines and two full R-2600 engines not seeing any reason to plop down $100 and shipping for it. The Revell/Monogram B-25J for a third of the price is still pretty decent if you don't mind raised panel lines.

https://tinyurl.com/5n8dbb4s

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:22 PM (Syqns)

199 willowed; still relevant:
"297 meh, nordstream is not scrap metal, there are ways of repairing it ... not easy, nor cheap, but totally doable.
... if the will to do it exists, lol.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at September 27, 2022 07:10 PM (8oyo2) "

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at September 27, 2022 07:22 PM (8oyo2)

200 hey if someone is going to open the door, i'm going to walk on through!
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (B3oWe)

Watch that first step !

Posted by: polynikes at September 27, 2022 07:22 PM (ml8cs)

201 191 Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita
mi ritrovai per una selva oscura,
ché la diritta via era smarrita.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:21 PM (V13WU)

I DON'T GET IT

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISSBERGER at September 27, 2022 07:22 PM (6FeV1)

202 grazie mille

Posted by: Hurricane Loretta at September 27, 2022 07:22 PM (g1EEm)

203 oops - desock

Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 27, 2022 07:22 PM (g1EEm)

204 An Italian song for you, Ace:

https://tinyurl.com/yck7pyx3

Posted by: Gref at September 27, 2022 07:23 PM (AMIL/)

205 Pizza, pizza.

Posted by: wth at September 27, 2022 07:23 PM (v0R5T)

206 Mi chiedo se russa.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:23 PM (mZ3xv)

207 Franco and Mussolini were two such different men that it's hard to compare them. Even politically, they were really very different people. Certainly religiously.

But from a personal standpoint? Just in different worlds. One key example: Benito was always being bullied or flattered by Adolf. Adolf was always being bullied or flattered by Francisco.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 27, 2022 07:17 PM (oINRc)

Franco needed a war to take power in Spain and luckily for that country had seen enough of it and resisted entry into WWII entirely. He did send a division of 'volunteers' to Russia, which probably helped get the more zealous people who wanted to fight far away from him.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 27, 2022 07:23 PM (eoQWY)

208 Desantis is in cahoots with the Jews?
----------------------
All the cool kids say "Khazars" now.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 27, 2022 07:23 PM (yikp0)

209 184 Fascism = authoritarian socialism
Communism = totalitarian socialism

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (bW8dp)

They are both totalitarian, it is just that fascism as we think of it classically has usualy been successful with charismatic one person rule. But what about Stalin? Mao? China now is almost my perfect definition of fascist. Xi was definitely trying to make himself that charismatic leader, but the system survived the fall of Mao as a headless bureaucracy. And that really is the key to all of these commie asshole shitstorms- they are bureaucratic hells.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:23 PM (dNqv+)

210 "Lei" as in "she," not "Lei" as in Formal You
Posted by: ace

I wish only to be an ever rust-proof screw in the great machine of Chairman Mao.

Posted by: Emulate Lei Feng! at September 27, 2022 07:23 PM (d+wXR)

211 Advice to Republicans - cut a LONG series of ads with Biden and KJP, and any other Biden officials simply lying though their teeth.

hell, just play portions of any Biden speech, and call it an ad. You don't have to explain it, or exaggerate it. Just make Americans LISTEN to his idiocy.

Posted by: Inspector kemp at September 27, 2022 07:23 PM (+DS2f)

212 Stocks are in a bubble still, but yeah, Biden wants credit when they bubbled up, and the massive spending is still a problem ...

"Lacy and Danielle (DiMartino) spent many years working at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, where Lacy was Senior Economist."

Good interview, can be sped up, cuz he talks "deliberately". He thinks rates go up till 1st or 2nd quarter 2023. Then thinks inflation will be 2-3%, and that inflation is peaking even now. He lays out a lot of the absurdities, lots of detail

https://tinyurl.com/3tv2j5bd

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2022 07:24 PM (Cus5s)

213 hey if someone is going to open the door, i'm going to walk on through!

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:20 PM (B3oWe)
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The Paolo, he have many doors opened to him and he walk through many times. Some of the doors, they always stay open, though.

Posted by: The Paolo at September 27, 2022 07:24 PM (llXky)

214 thanks, gref. I'll listen to that. I listen to "Meglio Stasera" from the Pink Panther (the first one) a lot. That's one of those things that stuck in my head and made me curious about Italian. Good song.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:24 PM (B3oWe)

215 192 Be nice if that stock market cutie was down 50%...on me.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2022 07:21 PM (ufFY

Your bellybutton?

Weirdo.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:24 PM (mZ3xv)

216 Actually in World War II, north Italy stayed a Nazi ally

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:24 PM (Syqns)

217 By the way - any morons know where the word "facist" originally came from? Hint - you can see one on about half of the public flagpoles in NYC.

Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at September 27, 2022 07:25 PM (zSyrn)

218 Doocy is just toying with KJP like a cat that caught a gopher.

Posted by: wth at September 27, 2022 07:25 PM (v0R5T)

219 116 Bought Wendy's breakfast today for first time in a couple years. Tastes nasty, and way too expensive.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at September 27, 2022 07:09 PM (24fqN)

------------------------------------

I had a Jimmy Dean's Southwestern Breakfast Bowl for dinner. It was pretty good for something out of the microwave.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 27, 2022 07:25 PM (uPgE/)

220 Gah, I had a Bidet moment today. Couldn't figure out why the laptop wasn't charging.


I forgot to plug it in. *head/palm*

Posted by: Infidel at September 27, 2022 07:25 PM (+J0HH)

221 Lacy thinks just MAYBE "they" are figuring out inflation is bad for the workers, good for the rich ... and bailouts for the banks was terrible, let them take the loss, no TooBigToFail (or jail).

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2022 07:25 PM (Cus5s)

222 Pizza, pizza.

*

I saw a commercial for Little Caesars and they're still using that. Except you only get a single pizza when you order, so it makes no sense unless you're 50+ years old, and 50+ year olds probably aren't shopping there first.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 27, 2022 07:25 PM (ikWko)

223 216 Actually in World War II, north Italy stayed a Nazi ally
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:24 PM (Syqns

Never trust anyone from Milan, I always say.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:26 PM (mZ3xv)

224 I'm usually against these change the team name things, but I've never liked the Braves much. I look forward to the next edition of a team with a name nobody can root for.

And my team was named for the color of its socks (Red Stockings, soon shortened down to Reds because who has time for that)

Posted by: Oldcat at September 27, 2022 07:26 PM (eoQWY)

225 Juicy piece in Vanity Fair. Would love to see Trump answer these questions:

DeSantis tells donors that, if he takes on Trump, he would launch a full frontal attack on his record and competence, according to a GOP source briefed on the conversations. “DeSantis says the only way to beat Trump is to attack him head-on. He says he would turn to Trump during a debate and say, ‘Why didn’t you fire Fauci? You said you would build the wall, but there is no wall. Why is that?’ ”
Posted by: Valiant at September 27, 2022 07:05 PM (cy2xC)


I started laughing at "Vanity Fair".

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 27, 2022 07:26 PM (yQpMk)

226 Has anybody heard from Madison Cornbread? One day she was a twinkly bright star and now she's gone. Serial killer? Or Democrats? Is there a difference?

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 27, 2022 07:26 PM (mSifz)

227 By the way - any morons know where the word "facist" originally came from? Hint - you can see one on about half of the public flagpoles in NYC.
Posted by: CtHillary

*

I suspect it would be easier to ask how many don't, honestly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 27, 2022 07:26 PM (ikWko)

228 Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita
mi ritrovai per una selva oscura,
ché la diritta via era smarrita.

thank you. I figured that was Dante. One thing I know is that he gets quoted a lot, and that he uses antique language like "Cammin." The modern word is "camino." That was a hint that it was Dante. Whenever a word is *almost* Italian, I think maybe it's Dante. (Or maybe some other older italian writer but I don't know any others except Dante so he's my only Guess.)

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:26 PM (B3oWe)

229 Fascism as all authoritarian ideologies requires a strong state.

American conservativism opposes a strong state.

So the notion of right wing fascism is a joke. Imagine Hitler advocating Jews be allowed to own guns or Mussolini demanding that the people of Libya can leave the Italian state if they want.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2022 07:26 PM (ESjRY)

230 I always tell people that to define fascism. look at the word itself.

It is a bundle of sticks to make an axe strong. Bound with leather.

The sticks represent the sticks used to enslave people. Or, the people themselves.

The axe is the ultimate punishment to those who went against Rome, or against the state, or against The State in their objective (usually war with others)

The strapping is what unites them for a cause - which makes the state powerful. This requires a common enemy.

Now look at all fascist states (ussr, Nork, nazis, USA today, EU,....) and pixy requests that I leave to to you all to identify their enemy and how those elements apply.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 27, 2022 07:26 PM (eto3W)

231 145 Churchill on Italy siding with the Germans in World War II. "Only fair as we had them in the Great War."
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:14 PM (Syqns)

Say what you will about Italy in WW II but the Alpine front between Italy and Austria during WW I was just as or worse than the trenches in France

Posted by: Beartooth at September 27, 2022 07:26 PM (3p4cr)

232 Damn it honey, where's the remote?

The damn laptop is stuck on Italian, again!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2022 07:26 PM (PGGFI)

233 Well food time.

Ciao amica!

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:27 PM (Syqns)

234 I don't know. I'm not sure but I think I despise the media.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 27, 2022 07:27 PM (eGTCV)

235 Stavo cercando di dire che i media hanno la storia italiana ignorante. Probabilmente non sanno nemmeno che Mussolini era un giornalista.

ma dai!

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:21 PM (B3oWe)
---
At this rate, Ace is going to be like Charles V, who spoke multiple languages. When asked how he kept them straight, he replied:

"When talking to God I use Spanish; when talking to men I use French; when talking to women I use Italian; and when talking to my horse, I use German."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:27 PM (llXky)

236 >>>By the way - any morons know where the word "facist" originally came from? Hint - you can see one on about half of the public flagpoles in NYC.

sure it's the bundle of sticks gripped in one of the talons of the eagle. "Fasces."

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:27 PM (B3oWe)

237 Fasces is the name for the symbol of office for a roman consul. Kind of a bundle of sticks tied around an axe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:28 PM (dNqv+)

238 222 Pizza, pizza.
*
I saw a commercial for Little Caesars and they're still using that. Except you only get a single pizza when you order, so it makes no sense unless you're 50+ years old, and 50+ year olds probably aren't shopping there first.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

That's fucking crazy. That's fucking crazy.

Posted by: Jimmy Two Times at September 27, 2022 07:29 PM (eto3W)

239 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcpB6lXXeXM

Learning with Lucrezia -- expressions from Dante

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:29 PM (B3oWe)

240 I started laughing at "Vanity Fair".
=========
Why don't you and him fight?

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 27, 2022 07:29 PM (yikp0)

241 Model building news

HK Models is releasing next month a 1/48 scale B-25J glass nose Mitchell. Except for the recessed panel lines and two full R-2600 engines not seeing any reason to plop down $100 and shipping for it. The Revell/Monogram B-25J for a third of the price is still pretty decent if you don't mind raised panel lines.

https://tinyurl.com/5n8dbb4s

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:22 PM


There are zero reasons for a 1/48 plastic model kit to cost $100. With CAD and new thermoplastic molding techniques the cost of making plastic model kits has fallen in the last decade.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 27, 2022 07:29 PM (bVYXr)

242 AH Lloyd's book is helpful on Franco.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at September 27, 2022 07:29 PM (AaLDK)

243 Actually in World War II, north Italy stayed a Nazi ally
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:24 PM (Syqns

Never trust anyone from Milan, I always say.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:26 PM (mZ3xv)

Well, by then the Germans had taken over the entire control of the area, disarmed all Italian troops and the Government was out of the picture, so it is probably better described as 'German Occupied'

Posted by: Oldcat at September 27, 2022 07:29 PM (eoQWY)

244 'The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him.'

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (mZ3xv)

245 Has anybody heard from Madison Cornbread? One day she was a twinkly bright star and now she's gone. Serial killer? Or Democrats? Is there a difference?
Posted by: Lost In Space

If there's justice in the world, she's been reduced to $5 handies under the overpass.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (IPShe)

246 Fasces is the name for the symbol of office for a roman consul. Kind of a bundle of sticks tied around an axe.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:28 PM (dNqv+)

There's one on the dime, is there not?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (5s54T)

247 Fasces is the name for the symbol of office for a roman consul. Kind of a bundle of sticks tied around an axe.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:28 PM (dNqv+)


"Stronger together!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (hOUT3)

248 Actually in World War II, north Italy stayed a Nazi ally

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 27, 2022 07:24 PM (Syqns)
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At least part of that was because the German Army was physically occupying it.

Churchill's quip aside, his memoirs confirm that the British begged Mussolini to stay out of the war. He himself sent a frankly grovelling letter seeking Italy's neutrality.

So yeah, sick burn later, but if Italy had stayed out of the war, Mussolini would have been a respected elder statesman.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (llXky)

249 Fasces is the name for the symbol of office for a roman consul. Kind of a bundle of sticks tied around an axe.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Fasces were the sign of the Tribunes of the People, who had some veto rights over the Roman Senate.

Posted by: Miklosius Caroliniensis at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (d+wXR)

250 'The idea there is a risk of fascism in Italy is absolutely fake news."'
That's a perfectly sensible reply from Renzi. Italy's been living down their fascist past for 80 years. Renzi doesn't want it brought up even if it might benefit him politically.
I.E. he's an Italian patriot first and a partisan second.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (roH4R)

251 There are zero reasons for a 1/48 plastic model kit to cost $100. With CAD and new thermoplastic molding techniques the cost of making plastic model kits has fallen in the last decade.

There is one reason. People will pay.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at September 27, 2022 07:31 PM (Bd6X8)

252 244 'The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him.'

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (mZ3xv)

Or any leader really.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:31 PM (dNqv+)

253 >>>At this rate, Ace is going to be like Charles V, who spoke multiple languages

hopefully. I am picking up Spanish as a bonus language.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:31 PM (B3oWe)

254 ....viewed Italian Fascism with contempt, and stated that it was, in his opinion, unable to successfully run a Gelato stand.
Posted by: Kindltot


////

So, basically like the current US "administration"?

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 27, 2022 07:31 PM (tQL7r)

255 The WEF members should be forced to travel in an open mule-drawn buggy where all of the mules have a bad case of gas.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at

I have a more permanent solution for their travel.
Posted by: Beartooth

Let them fly their private jets across the Atlantic with enough jet fuel to make it halfway

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 27, 2022 07:31 PM (XY2CK)

256 There's one on the dime, is there not?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (5s54T)

Also in the chair arms of the Lincoln Memorial.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:31 PM (dNqv+)

257 Sono Pazzi Questi Romani!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 27, 2022 07:31 PM (yikp0)

258 The more I hear about this Joe Biden fella, the less I like him.

(RIP, Norm)

Posted by: DB at September 27, 2022 07:31 PM (geLO8)

259 Your bellybutton?

Weirdo.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:24 PM (mZ3xv)

57%?

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2022 07:31 PM (ufFY8)

260 cammino ?

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:32 PM (V13WU)

261 >>>Sono Pazzi Questi Romani!

these people called romans, they go out of their homes?

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:32 PM (B3oWe)

262 sure it's the bundle of sticks gripped in one of the talons of the eagle. "Fasces."
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:27 PM (B3oWe)

It's also all over Washington DC.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:32 PM (mZ3xv)

263 118 Waiting for MTG to introduce a bill banning WEF and Soros groups from operating in the USA. Not sure exactly how to do it to pass constitutional muster, but it needs to be done.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 27, 2022 07:09 PM (fs1hN)

Declare them to be economic terrorists. Freeze their assets. Easy peezy.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at September 27, 2022 07:32 PM (BdMk6)

264 Fasces is the name for the symbol of office for a roman consul. Kind of a bundle of sticks tied around an axe.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:28 PM (dNqv+)

The axe was only outside the city of Rome. It symbolized the power to deliver summary death penalties. In Rome itself the magistrates had to go to the courts, and even then they went for exile primarily. It shows the strength of numbers - you can break one stick, but not when tied in a bundle.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 27, 2022 07:32 PM (eoQWY)

265 Fasces is the name for the symbol of office for a roman consul. Kind of a bundle of sticks tied around an axe.

Also the symbol of the Seargeant at Arms of the Roman Senate. If the Senators were misbehaving, he would bring it in to give them a warning to calm down. After that, he was able to kick butt. So it is a symbol of good order which is why you see it on so many pre-war buildings and other structures such as flagpoles.

Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at September 27, 2022 07:32 PM (zSyrn)

266 Miklos !

Posted by: JT at September 27, 2022 07:32 PM (T4tVD)

267 'The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him.'

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (mZ3xv)


Old boss of mine (but probably not original):

"First class managers hire first class people;
Second class managers hire third class people!"

He'd be fired for saying that today!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at September 27, 2022 07:32 PM (hOUT3)

268 There are zero reasons for a 1/48 plastic model kit to cost $100. With CAD and new thermoplastic molding techniques the cost of making plastic model kits has fallen in the last decade.
--------------------
I'm guessing 80% goes to the aircraft company after that copyright case a long time ago.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 27, 2022 07:32 PM (yikp0)

269 259 Your bellybutton?

Weirdo.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:24 PM (mZ3xv)

57%?
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2022 07:31 PM (ufFY8


Hung like a horse was the correct answer. Lol

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:33 PM (mZ3xv)

270 Heh. Everything's in Italian tonight.

So, of course, the wife and I are having weisswurst at dinner tonight.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 27, 2022 07:33 PM (ZSK0i)

271 Tu se’ lo mio maestro e ’l mio autore,
tu se’ solo colui da cu’ io tolsi
lo bello stilo che m’ha fatto onore.

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:33 PM (V13WU)

272 Fasces were the sign of the Tribunes of the People, who had some veto rights over the Roman Senate.
Posted by: Miklosius Caroliniensis at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (d+wXR)

I think... you are wrong there. I remember a story about... Bibilus(sp?) who was Co-Consul the first time with Caesar. He went to a rally to try to break it up when Caesar was agitating for land for Pompey's veterans(?) Caesar's supporters attacked him, broke his fasces and dumped manure on his head.

He would not go outside until the civil war.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:33 PM (dNqv+)

273 Hung like a horse was the correct answer. Lol
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:33 PM (mZ3xv)

I DID think about responding in a similar way...

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2022 07:34 PM (ufFY8)

274 For a while the fasces was mostly a symbol of state authority so it is found in a lot of neo-classical architecture. I don't think the designer of the Lincoln Memorial was trying to imply anything there. (look under his hands...)

So don't read too much into it's use as a symbol. The word though does have a meaning, and I think that meaning is retained in how we define fascism today. (except on the left - for them it just means someone I don't like.)

Posted by: Jimmy Two Times at September 27, 2022 07:34 PM (eto3W)

275 Fasces were the sign of the Tribunes of the People, who had some veto rights over the Roman Senate.

Posted by: Miklosius Caroliniensis at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (d+wXR)
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The fasces were carried by lictors, and represented the authority of the state. The axes represented the power of life and death, and thus were not always present.

Thus, if hauled before the consuls and the axes were present, that was a bad sign.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:34 PM (llXky)

276 JT

Posted by: Miklosius in the Ablative Absolute at September 27, 2022 07:34 PM (d+wXR)

277 > really, the only thing 'fascism' means is a dictator or some sort or other. It's become an otherwise meaningless term.

Have you read Mussolini's "Doctrine of Fascism?" Fascism is anti-individualistic, opposed to Socialism, opposed to trade unionism. It's not Reformist, revolutionary, or centrist. It's different than all other political doctrines. It's not just a regime, but also a doctrine. It's spiritual. It doesn't believe in the doctrine of perpetual peace. It denies the "materialistic conception of happiness." Fascism rejects monarchy v republic. It rejects reactionary acts. Its conception of the State is unique and everything is a part of it, but the State isn't what you think, it's "ethica." It's not strictly political, it's not there to guarantee anything, it's a spiritual and ethical entity for securing organization.

It isn't this, it isn't that, it's a thing that can't be succinctly described.

What are its central tenets? What are its undergirding philosophies? It's vaguery, smoke and mirrors, and refuses to be nailed down.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 27, 2022 07:34 PM (eyxn4)

278 273 Hung like a horse was the correct answer. Lol
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:33 PM (mZ3xv)

I DID think about responding in a similar way...
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2022 07:34 PM (ufFY

I softballed that one.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:34 PM (mZ3xv)

279 Italians love their Dante.

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:35 PM (V13WU)

280 >>>260 cammino ?
Posted by: runner a

yes! Camino is spanish. And in italian, it turns out, "camino" is "chimney."

Cammino with two m's.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:35 PM (B3oWe)

281 What are its central tenets? What are its undergirding philosophies? It's vaguery, smoke and mirrors, and refuses to be nailed down.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 27, 2022 07:34 PM (eyxn4)

It's a national cult.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:35 PM (6FeV1)

282 Fasces is the name for the symbol of office for a roman consul. Kind of a bundle of sticks tied around an axe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:28 PM (dNqv+)


The fasces was representational of all the families of Rome bound together through the element of the state supporting the state's power, and comes from a very old story about a father having all his sons first break a single stick and then to break a bundle of them. The sticks are the various clans or families, the axe the power of the state, and the binding strip the government.

There are other interpretations, each one more wonderful than the last, but that is the traditional one.
The Fasces was chosen for the Senate building in DC because it was an example of individual elements uniting to be strong.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2022 07:35 PM (xhaym)

283 The axe was only outside the city of Rome. It symbolized the power to deliver summary death penalties. In Rome itself the magistrates had to go to the courts, and even then they went for exile primarily. It shows the strength of numbers - you can break one stick, but not when tied in a bundle.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 27, 2022 07:32 PM (eoQWY)

Huh. So it was kind of like a symbol of Imperium (life and death) for the office holder?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:35 PM (dNqv+)

284 Mussolini describing Fascism is like a College Sophomore trying to describe the Matrix in the limited Philosophical terms he knows.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 27, 2022 07:36 PM (eyxn4)

285 Their double talk is so heinous and bizarre that if people actually saw it, they'd see the Biden administration for what it is.
Posted by: portlandon



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Wish I could agree. But I don't think people would understand what's going on ~ unless they'd had their eyes and ears opened first.

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 27, 2022 07:36 PM (tQL7r)

286 willowed:

Buon giorno, cittadini della libertà
È bello essere qui. Il presidente Meloni è fonte di ispirazione quanto il presidente Trump.
Lei mi fa cantare il cuore

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 27, 2022 07:36 PM (PAY0n)

287 279 Italians love their Dante.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:35 PM (V13WU)


And their machismo.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:36 PM (mZ3xv)

288 sock off!

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 27, 2022 07:36 PM (AiZBA)

289 258
He sounds like a real jerk.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 27, 2022 07:36 PM (roH4R)

290 hopefully. I am picking up Spanish as a bonus language
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With my reasonable French for reading and mediocre Italian from high school, I can do about 40% Spanish although even that 'high' might be because I only used it for reading military history and uniform books.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 27, 2022 07:36 PM (yikp0)

291 Saw some numb nuts comment today " I bet those people in the path of that hurricane wish they voted for Biden now" I mean wtf is that even supposed to mean?
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2022 07:03 PM (yezA1)
******
Idiots, these people are idiots. smh

Posted by: redridinghood at September 27, 2022 07:37 PM (NpAcC)

292 Churchill's quip aside, his memoirs confirm that the British begged Mussolini to stay out of the war. He himself sent a frankly grovelling letter seeking Italy's neutrality.

So yeah, sick burn later, but if Italy had stayed out of the war, Mussolini would have been a respected elder statesman.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM


No way Italy could stay out of any European war as they needed mister hilter to bail them out in North Africa when Il Duce decided to recreate the Roman empire and got his a$$ handed to him in Ethiopia and other places in North Africa. They had to go along with whatever Germany did to get bailed out in Africa.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 27, 2022 07:37 PM (bVYXr)

293 i meant, yes, I was wrong about the spelling of cammino, i confused it with the spanish camino.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:37 PM (B3oWe)

294 284 Mussolini describing Fascism is like a College Sophomore trying to describe the Matrix in the limited Philosophical terms he knows.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 27, 2022 07:36 PM (eyxn4)

He was trying to get laid?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:37 PM (dNqv+)

295 Bevi più Ovaltina.

Posted by: Ralphicino at September 27, 2022 07:37 PM (a3Q+t)

296 I never men an Italian who could not either: sing well/have an ear for music, paint/or be good at something artistic like that, or play an instrument.

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:38 PM (V13WU)

297 Fasces is the name for the symbol of office for a roman consul. Kind of a bundle of sticks tied around an axe.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Fasces were the sign of the Tribunes of the People, who had some veto rights over the Roman Senate.
Posted by: Miklosius Caroliniensis at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (d+wXR)

Tribunes did not carry fasces, as they were not ministers of the state. Not sure if they had any particular object to show their status, but they could not be stopped by any magistrate, and if they chose they could free any prisoner and carry him out. This extended to the ability to stop *any* activity by crying "Veto!" (I deny it!") They were a check by the Plebean class against abuse by the Patricians.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 27, 2022 07:38 PM (eoQWY)

298 hopefully. I am picking up Spanish as a bonus language.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:31 PM (B3oWe)


I speak Spanish, and when I watch Italian video with Italian sub titles, I always think, "THAT'S not how you spell that word"

Posted by: Kindltot at September 27, 2022 07:38 PM (xhaym)

299 Italians love their Dante.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:35 PM (V13WU)


And their machismo.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

And Sophia Loren.

Posted by: JT at September 27, 2022 07:38 PM (T4tVD)

300 hopefully. I am picking up Spanish as a bonus language.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:31 PM (B3oWe)
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That's cool. I had ambitions of getting my German back up to par, but I just don't have a lot of motivation. Writing books is more rewarding.

I'll comp you a copy of Long Live Death if you want. Email's on the web site in the nic.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:39 PM (llXky)

301 There's a hurricane vs. but first joke here somewhere.

Posted by: DaveA at September 27, 2022 07:39 PM (FhXTo)

302 And their machismo.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:36 PM (mZ3xv)

machismo is far worse in my experience with Hispanics than Italians. YMMV. To me, the machismo in hispanics is more class based, where italians (or even more so sicilians) it is that emotion is let off the leash at the drop of a hat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:39 PM (dNqv+)

303 And Sophia Loren.

Posted by: JT at September 27, 2022 07:38 PM


she had a big butt.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 27, 2022 07:40 PM (bVYXr)

304 i meant, yes, I was wrong about the spelling of cammino, i confused it with the spanish camino.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:37 PM (B3oWe)

Capisco !

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:40 PM (V13WU)

305 these people called romans, they go out of their homes?
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They're crazy these Romans!

Italian riffing on the Roman-Latin SPQR.

There was a weird Italian musical variety show with the performers and guests wearing togas and the like with that title I saw a few times on Toronto's Italian TV station but it was too weird for me like the Simpsons riffing on how weird Mexican TV variety shows are.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 27, 2022 07:40 PM (yikp0)

306 Before leaving the subject of the lovely Ms Christia Freeland of Canada fame...

I'd like to note that she's one of the elite who actually is vaxxine injured. She drank the Kool-aid for real.

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 27, 2022 07:40 PM (tQL7r)

307 A 15mm wagon and team in metal will set you back $20

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2022 07:40 PM (xhxe8)

308 > He was trying to get laid?

He was trying to get more sex, money, and power, yes.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 27, 2022 07:40 PM (eyxn4)

309 she had a big butt.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 27, 2022 07:40 PM (bVYXr)

Kardashians have a big butt, Ms. Loren had/has hips.

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:41 PM (V13WU)

310 mille grazie for having let me gotten some italian in

noodles

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2022 07:41 PM (B3oWe)

311 Huh. So it was kind of like a symbol of Imperium (life and death) for the office holder?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:35 PM (dNqv+)

Yes - and the number of lictors you had carrying them showed your status
Consul 12
Praetor 6
Quaestor 4
Aedile 2
Dictator 24

Posted by: Oldcat at September 27, 2022 07:41 PM (eoQWY)

312 hell, just play portions of any Biden speech, and call it an ad. You don't have to explain it, or exaggerate it. Just make Americans LISTEN to his idiocy.
Posted by: Inspector kemp at September 27, 2022 07:23 PM (+DS2f)

"This message paid for by.... you. Whether you like it or not."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:42 PM (6FeV1)

313
No way Italy could stay out of any European war as they needed mister hilter to bail them out in North Africa when Il Duce decided to recreate the Roman empire and got his a$$ handed to him in Ethiopia and other places in North Africa. They had to go along with whatever Germany did to get bailed out in Africa.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 27, 2022 07:37 PM (bVYXr)
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No.

Italy conquered Ethiopia without any foreign help.

Italy only got involved in North Africa after declaring war on France and Britain. Italy didn't invade Greece until after it was part of the war.

So if Italy had just sat there, doing nothing, it would have been a lucrative transit point between east and west. The UK would not dared to blockade it lest it go to war, just as the British suffered Franco to sell arms to Germany.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:42 PM (llXky)

314 My line of work wondering if Portuguese isn't the most important

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2022 07:42 PM (xhxe8)

315 Yes - and the number of lictors you had carrying them showed your status
Consul 12
Praetor 6
Quaestor 4
Aedile 2
Dictator 24
Posted by: Oldcat at September 27, 2022 07:41 PM (eoQWY)

Very cool. I did not know that bit. Thanks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:42 PM (dNqv+)

316 I speak three languages. Canadian, Australian and English. And a little Scottish but it's hard to understand.

Posted by: polynikes at September 27, 2022 07:43 PM (ml8cs)

317 *is ace calling nood ??? that's a first - primo as they say

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:43 PM (V13WU)

318 Mussolini was known to seduce wimmens in his office and have sex on his big old desk when he wasn't making the trains run on time or pouring castor oil down a commie's throat until they shit themselves.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 27, 2022 07:44 PM (R/m4+)

319 317 *is ace calling nood ??? that's a first - primo as they say
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2022 07:43 PM (V13WU)

I know, that's what I thought too!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2022 07:44 PM (6FeV1)

320 275 Fasces were the sign of the Tribunes of the People, who had some veto rights over the Roman Senate.

Posted by: Miklosius Caroliniensis at September 27, 2022 07:30 PM (d+wXR)
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The fasces were carried by lictors, and represented the authority of the state. The axes represented the power of life and death, and thus were not always present.

Thus, if hauled before the consuls and the axes were present, that was a bad sign.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 27, 2022 07:34 PM (llXky)


Lictors to an official who held imperium were permitted to carry the fasces with axe head inside the Rome city boundary. To signify the man they were guarding had the power of life and death. They were the only people permitted to carry a weapon inside the city boundary.

Posted by: Gref at September 27, 2022 07:44 PM (AMIL/)

321 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 27, 2022 07:44 PM (R/m4+)

Seduce /Rape

220 /221

Posted by: polynikes at September 27, 2022 07:45 PM (ml8cs)

322 Stone the crows, poly. Don't we all, china?

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 27, 2022 07:45 PM (yikp0)

323 Do not disappoint Ms Meloni.

https://tinyurl.com/2aadb9r6

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:45 PM (dNqv+)

324 Lictor? Damn straight I did! WOOO! *ptttttththhhhh*

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 27, 2022 07:46 PM (6FeV1)

325 Italy's mistakes in WWII are worthy of volumes

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2022 07:46 PM (xhxe8)

326 Cafe is open, yo.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 27, 2022 07:46 PM (OX9vb)

327 I speak British English, Northern US midwestern English, Some Pennsylvania Dutch, Southern English, Cajun, some Spanish and some Italian. A little German and some Russian.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2022 07:46 PM (mZ3xv)

328 I'd like to learn Portuguese but Spanish I have little interest in, just based on the stiff and simple dopey high school Spanish classes of my era.

Swedish is a fun language for a spare.

Posted by: Sarahw at September 27, 2022 07:46 PM (g1vnC)

329 324 Lictor? Damn straight I did! WOOO! *ptttttththhhhh*
Posted by: Joe Biden at September 27, 2022 07:46 PM (6FeV1)

I get the feeling that Joe Biden is not a generous lover.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 27, 2022 07:47 PM (dNqv+)

330 Yes, the Café is open.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 27, 2022 07:48 PM (yikp0)

331 "Personally I was against Georgia Meloni. I'm not her best friend. We are rivals but she is not a danger to democracy. The idea there is a risk of fascism in Italy is absolutely fake news."

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You'll find far more fascism at the DOJ & FBI Headquarters than you will in Italy.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 27, 2022 07:48 PM (ylLOx)

332 Lictors to an official who held imperium were permitted to carry the fasces with axe head inside the Rome city boundary. To signify the man they were guarding had the power of life and death. They were the only people permitted to carry a weapon inside the city boundary.
Posted by: Gref at September 27, 2022 07:44 PM (AMIL/)

Except for a dictator, an official with imperium could not enter the city of Rome. If he did, his imperium ended. Hence episodes where generals and armies had to hang out near the city trying to arrange a triumphal parade into the city to end your official job with a bang.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 27, 2022 07:52 PM (eoQWY)

333 Today: Stocks have lost $7.6 trillion in value since Biden took office.

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Nothing that another multi-trillion dollar Congressional spending bill can't remedy before the elections ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 27, 2022 07:52 PM (ylLOx)

334 5 Damn. Fred Ward died.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 27, 2022 06:50 PM (QSjkU)
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Back in May.

Posted by: Ciampino ---The Biden Admin is at fault at September 27, 2022 07:56 PM (qfLjt)

335 "He spoke over the phone with Tampa Mayor Jane Castor Tampa and St. Petersburg Mayor Ken Welsh -- both Democrats -- and with Clearwater Mayor Frank Hibbard"

None of whom can request federal help, nor coordinate directly with FEMA, without the state being in the middle.

But who gives a f*** about the law and rules, anymore?

Posted by: GWB at September 27, 2022 08:02 PM (vRPav)

336 305 these people called romans, they go out of their homes?
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They're crazy these Romans!

Italian riffing on the Roman-Latin SPQR.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 27, 2022 07:40 PM (yikp0)
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Hey watch who you're calling crazy.
/s

Posted by: Ciampino -At school I was the Mad Chemist at September 27, 2022 08:06 PM (qfLjt)

337 We chuckle, but if the pending hurricane travels up the east coast, it just might make a bit of a mess in both Rehoboth, DE and Martha's Vineyard.

Cheers.

Posted by: Lola at September 27, 2022 08:07 PM (NIYa7)

338 I thought Spain was excluded until after Franco, but I could be mistaken.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 27, 2022 07:11 PM (KFhLj)

They were. Western pubs were upset that the Nationalists beat the Republicans and couldn't get over it.

Francisco Franco is still dead.

Posted by: Satai Dalen at September 27, 2022 08:30 PM (NnEYE)

339 224 "And my team was named for the color of its socks (Red Stockings, soon shortened down to Reds because who has time for that)"

Between the "Red Stockings" and the "Reds", they were for many years known as the "Redlegs", and to many older fans, probably still are.

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