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THE MORNING RANT: The Science™ Regarding Climate Change and Hurricane Frequency Has Changed Again; More EV Towing Follies

It’s been a historically quiet hurricane season so far, but it may finally be picking up. For several decades, one of the apocalyptic predictions of the Sustainable Organic Church of the Carbon Apocalypse has been that there will be more hurricanes.

Here are a few blasts from the past:

Study Blames Climate Change for Hurricane Rise [Reuters – 7/29/2007]

The number of Atlantic hurricanes in an average season has doubled in the last century due in part to warmer seas and changing wind patterns caused by global warming, according to a study released on Sunday.

And here is your tax dollars at work, this is from The National Climate Change Assessment (“NCCA” of 2014

The intensity, frequency, and duration of North Atlantic hurricanes, as well as the frequency of the strongest hurricanes, have all increased since the early 1980s.

There has been a substantial increase in most measures of Atlantic hurricane activity since the early 1980s, the period during which high-quality satellite data are available. These include measures of intensity, frequency, and duration as well as the number of strongest (Category 4 and 5) storms.

The folks over at The Heartland Institute have put a lot of resources into debunking the climate hysteria. The chart below is from Heartland’s Climate At A Glance site. It tracks the total number of tropical storms every year since 1970, and also the subset of that total that were hurricanes. A few things stand out.

• The NCCA only referenced Atlantic hurricanes, not the global number of hurricanes. Perhaps their data was legitimate for that small section of the globe, but as shown in this chart, the lower line is the number of global hurricanes (or cyclones, or typhoons, or whatever you want to call them.) It has not trended upward in the past 50 years.

• The number of named tropical storms (top line) is increasing while the number of hurricanes is trending downward. I presume this is because of how aggressive the climatistas have been in slapping a name on every 39-mph gust of wind. It’s harder to fake the number of hurricanes though, because those require sustained winds of 74 mph.

Tropical Cyclone Frequence since 1970.JPG


With the frequency of hurricanes not behaving as The Science™ foretold, and now that we’re in a year in which there was an almost no tropical activity during the Atlantic’s peak hurricane season, The Science™ has changed!

This is from a New York Times article earlier this week about Hurricane Fiona.

A warming planet can expect stronger hurricanes over time and a higher incidence of the most powerful storms — though the overall number of storms may drop, because factors like stronger wind shear could keep some weaker storms from forming.

If the climatistas weren’t trying to destroy western civilization with their phony science, this evolving science to fit the current weather would be funny.

And ponder this, since global warning now results in fewer hurricanes according to the latest iteration of The Science™, taking the prescribed actions to reverse global warming would thus cause an increase in hurricanes.

Hey New Orleans, the Church of Greta Thunberg wants to save the world by inflicting more hurricanes on you.

Of course, this could still end up being a very busy hurricane season. If October has a steady parade of hurricanes, you can rest assured that The Science™ will have changed again, and that all those October hurricanes are also proof of global warming.

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Stories about the futility of using EV trucks to do long distance towing just never get old.

I don’t really want to laugh at the misfortune of a family getting stranded on the western plains because they made the foolish decision to tow a camper behind an electric pickup, but it’s important for these stories to get out, so that the reality (futility) of EVs is understood, especially as it relates to trucks that are engaged in heavy hauling.

A couple with three children known as “The Electric Family” decided to document their 500-mile journey from Lincoln, Nebraska to Denver on You Tube. They had an electric Ford F-150 Lightning towing an Airstream camper.

Family Towed Camper with EV Truck - It Died and Had to Be Towed to New Charger by Fuel-Powered Tow Truck [Western Journal – 9/12/2022]

When the Krivolavek family pulled up to the Electrify America charging station in Ogallala, Katie said all the chargers read “unavailable.”

Steve called EA, who attempted to reboot the charger. Even after the reboot, it did not work. In addition, Katie said neither Kampgrounds of America sites in the area had car charging available. She and her children decided to walk to a nearby restaurant, and Steve planned to drive 30 miles down the road to find a charger.

The family had to leave their camper unhooked in Ogallala because the truck did not have enough charge to pull it 30 more miles.

“When Steve got to Julesberg, he had 0 percent,” Katie said. “Eventually, we had to call a tow truck and have the truck towed back to Ogallalla…”

“And it was also 100 degrees, so we could not stay in the trailer in the Walmart parking lot. We had to go across the street and get a room in a hotel.”

Katie said the truck had enough charge to get to Julesburg in the morning, and the family was ultimately able to continue on their way. But she had a warning for fellow EV owners.

“In the end we made it, but beware of EA’s chargers and have a backup plan,” she said.

Being able to have a gasoline-powered tow truck rescue you is an OK backup plan, I suppose, but it’s scary to think about what might happen when gas-powered tow trucks are illegal, and there is no way to rescue a stranded family in the middle of nowhere.

*****

Songs of the Season

After several delightfully dry, cool weeks to start September, it got hot again around these parts. I guess that means we’re in an Indian Summer.

Speaking of which, here are Roy Orbison, Barry Gibb of the Bee Gees, and the Gatlin Brothers singing “Indian Summer.” They all have great voices, and it’s a great song, you have to wonder how it happened that those guys came together to sing this song.

Have a great weekend.

(buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com)

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM




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Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 23, 2022 11:00 AM (lf83v)

2 Howdy!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 23, 2022 11:00 AM (ngUCk)

3 There were no hurricanes before the gas engine.

Not one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 23, 2022 11:00 AM (LvTSG)

4 Objection. I see no munkey.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 23, 2022 11:02 AM (Wnv9h)

5 The number of Atlantic hurricanes in an average season has doubled in the last century due in part to warmer seas and changing wind patterns caused by global warming, according to a study released on Sunday.

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"The End of Snow?" -- NYT, 2014

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:03 AM (ylLOx)

6 Warmer, colder, wetter, drier, more storms, less storms.

Is there anything that Global Warming can't do?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 11:03 AM (yQpMk)

7 The insistence on AGW, despite all evidence to the contrary, reminds me of how people behaved when they were SURE the earth was at the center of the universe. No matter how much evidence was provided to the contrary, they simply refused to see it.

People don't change.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 23, 2022 11:04 AM (ayzS/)

8 Hurricanes aren't getting less common, they're just becoming more selective in their audience.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 23, 2022 11:04 AM (trdmm)

9 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

10 AGW is literally an unfalsifiable delusion.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 11:04 AM (yQpMk)

11 Humidity in my drawers seems to wildly fluctuate these days too. I thought it was an El Nino-like effect at first. But now I know that it is climate change.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 23, 2022 11:05 AM (KFhLj)

12 The number of named tropical storms (top line) is increasing while the number of hurricanes is trending downward. I presume this is because of how aggressive the climatistas have been in slapping a name on every 39-mph gust of wind.

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I've started naming dust devils here in AZ after Democrat pols ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:05 AM (ylLOx)

13 Can't you disqualify any EV truck from practical use by comparing the kWH it can hold to the same for an IC truck?
It can't even be close.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 23, 2022 11:05 AM (yvHe0)

14 Humidity in my drawers seems to wildly fluctuate these days too.

How about that - common ground with Biden.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 23, 2022 11:06 AM (ayzS/)

15 If current trends continue, my yard is going to be under a mile of ice by next August.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 11:06 AM (yQpMk)

16 The weather is racist. Hurricanes aren't coming around as much because they don't want ethnic names.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 23, 2022 11:06 AM (KFhLj)

17 So some moron brought up a really great point.

Let's say you and your family can afford more than one $65,000+ electric car. I know, but let's pretend you can.

Are you going to charge both simultaneously? Forget about it cost-wise. What would that require voltage-wise and permit-wise? That would be what, electricity for two or three additional houses plus the house you're living in, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 11:06 AM (Vx4B5)

18 And yet the deadliest Atlantic hurricane on record is from the 1780s that killed over 20,000.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 23, 2022 11:06 AM (dSiNM)

19 7 The insistence on AGW, despite all evidence to the contrary, reminds me of how people behaved when they were SURE the earth was at the center of the universe. No matter how much evidence was provided to the contrary, they simply refused to see it.

People don't change.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 23, 2022 11:04 AM (ayzS/)

Which i why (as you well know) all the talk about "Scientific Consensus" is total bullshit. "Scientific Consensus" at the time said Galileo was wrong. They said, how could one man think he was right and everyone else was wrong? And Galileo said "but it moves."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 23, 2022 11:06 AM (trdmm)

20 If current trends continue, my yard is going to be under a mile of ice by next August.

Not to mention we'll be entering into a permanent night.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 23, 2022 11:07 AM (ayzS/)

21 @3

>>There were no hurricanes before the gas engine.
Not one.

ACC/AGW is just so f**king stupid, it' all complete horse sh*t.

But let's play along with them, stipulated, hurricanes have increased in intensity since 1980, now tell me, what was the average intensity of hurricanes in the Atlantic 65 million years ago, or 250 million years ago or a billion years ago?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 23, 2022 11:07 AM (oJb1g)

22 Warmer, colder, wetter, drier, more storms, less storms.

Is there anything that Global Warming can't do?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 11:03 AM (yQpMk)

Make me a viable prospect [target] in the Sugar Daddy market?

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 23, 2022 11:08 AM (4I/2K)

23 All I know is there is less Stormy Daniels in the news.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 23, 2022 11:08 AM (FVME7)

24 21 But let's play along with them, stipulated, hurricanes have increased in intensity since 1980, now tell me, what was the average intensity of hurricanes in the Atlantic 65 million years ago, or 250 million years ago or a billion years ago?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 23, 2022 11:07 AM (oJb1g)

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No need to go that far back.

300 years ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 23, 2022 11:08 AM (LvTSG)

25 I don’t really want to laugh at the misfortune of a family getting stranded on the western plains because they made the foolish decision to tow a camper behind an electric pickup ...

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You're a better man than me, Buck.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:08 AM (ylLOx)

26 If we're going to base science on facts and dvidence, that'll set us back decades!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 23, 2022 11:09 AM (FVME7)

27 Towing through Nebraska using an EV is just stupid. Whole lots of nothing between Denver and Omaha.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at September 23, 2022 11:09 AM (q7YwT)

28 Everything is proof of AGW. Isn't that still true? I.e. the coldest winter in a century is proof of global warming. The election of Angry Old Man Who Shits Himself is proof of global warming. Everything is.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (eGTCV)

29 25 I don’t really want to laugh at the misfortune of a family getting stranded on the western plains because they made the foolish decision to tow a camper behind an electric pickup ...
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You're a better man than me, Buck.
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:08 AM (ylLOx)

Should be a musical. "The Hills are alive - with the Sound of Laughter. And Ridicule."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (trdmm)

30 Remember when Y2K was going to kill us all?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (Hn+0J)

31 If we're going to base science on facts and dvidence, that'll set us back decades!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 23, 2022 11:09 AM (FVME7)

... and that is how we know the Earth is banana shaped.

Posted by: Sir Bedevere at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (4I/2K)

32 Galileo was a pimp! He could never have outfought Copernicus.

Posted by: Donny Brook at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (NxzRk)

33 “In the end we made it, but beware of EA’s chargers and have a backup plan,” she said.

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Tow another electric vehicle behind you.

That's the best backup plan.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (LvTSG)

34 Speaking of climate change, my youngest child, who moved from Central Texas to Blacksburg, Virginia for college has discovered that something called winter exists. Given that fall has just started, I expect many tears.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (z99Zw)

35 EV's are fine if you live close to where you want / need to go.

Other than that, they're shit and just a tool to keep you corralled where the government wants you to be corralled.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:11 AM (Zz0t1)

36 One of the driving factors for hurricane formation in the Atlantic is the Mult-Decadal Oscillation which sees the Atlantic go into cool phases. This is a cycle that can happen every 60 to 80 years.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 23, 2022 11:11 AM (dSiNM)

37 30 Remember when Y2K was going to kill us all?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (Hn+0J)

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"Oh, gosh, those people in the late 90s were so gullible to believe an obvious panic from the media looking for ratings. Also, covid killed everyone on the planet. Mask up. We're in this together."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 23, 2022 11:11 AM (LvTSG)

38 I don’t really want to laugh at the misfortune of a family getting stranded on the western plains because they made the foolish decision to tow a camper behind an electric pickup ...
___________

They didn't plan ahead. If they bought the recommended solar panels and plugged them in, the truck would have been sufficiently recharged in 6 or 7. . . weeks.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 23, 2022 11:11 AM (lf83v)

39 We have always been at war with Eastasia

Posted by: Halfhand at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (/kjdB)

40 Science is Belief!
Skepticism Is Misinformation!

Posted by: Slogans for Our Time ! at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (fsV7e)

41 Speaking of climate change, my youngest child, who moved from Central Texas to Blacksburg, Virginia for college has discovered that something called winter exists. Given that fall has just started, I expect many tears.

I went there my freshman year. Damn, but it got cold walking across the quad in February.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (ayzS/)

42 ACC/AGW is just so f**king stupid, it' all complete horse sh*t.


This.
Pure poetry.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (anj39)

43 Joe Biden is so damn moderate that it's painful!

Posted by: 496 at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (VJsqe)

44 Bender, TJM

#18

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (dSiNM)

45 >>Everything is proof of AGW. Isn't that still true?


You gotta have Faith!

Posted by: Zombie George Michael at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (F7Oh5)

46 I prayed for no hurricanes while Pooky was training with JT The Wonder Dog in Florida this August, and my prayer was answered.

So you can blame me. And God, of course. But I'll take the blame if it makes you feel better.

Posted by: pookysgirl, Bel's primary source of heat at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (XKZwp)

47 479 I don’t really want to laugh at the misfortune of a family getting stranded on the western plains because they made the foolish decision to tow a camper behind an electric pickup ...


At least the children are tender. - Donner, Party of 12 11 10 9 ..

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (yQpMk)

48 As soon as you read "decided to document their journey on YouTube" you know that these are virtue-signaling idiots and I lose all sympathy for them.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (p+1gI)

49 Family Towed Camper with EV Truck - It Died and Had to Be Towed to New Charger by Fuel-Powered Tow Truck [Western Journal – 9/12/2022]

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I still envision a future for California freeways with a dead electric tow-truck towing a burned & charred Tesla -- itself being towed by a dead electric tow-truck, which is also being towed by a dead electric tow-truck, etc. etc.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (ylLOx)

50
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Tow another electric vehicle behind you.

That's the best backup plan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (LvTSG)



Tow your camper to the neighbor's house and camp there.

It's the best plan.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

51 You're a better man than me, Buck.
Posted by: ShainS

Same. I really, really do want to laugh at these people.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (M9XmQ)

52 34 Speaking of climate change, my youngest child, who moved from Central Texas to Blacksburg, Virginia for college has discovered that something called winter exists. Given that fall has just started, I expect many tears.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (z99Zw)

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When I moved back from Italy, I spent a few days at my dad's house in Blacksburg. I hadn't seen snow in two years. It had been great.

The night I came back, it snowed 16 inches. I got my dad's car stuck in a snowdrift a tenth of a mile from his house. I left it there for the night and went back in the morning a shovel to work it out (took a couple of hours).

I now live in South Carolina on purpose.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (LvTSG)

53 "Remember when Y2K was going to kill us all?"

Sorry I can't hear you. I'm still a bit groggy from that massive heart attack I had by following the Food Pyramid and taking Vioxx.

Posted by: Slogans for Our Time ! at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (fsV7e)

54 Why not the best?

Star Wars “Andor” Actress Says Her Performance Was Inspired by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez & Liz Cheney

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (FVME7)

55 Folks used to run into problems getting gas, when ICE first came out. But they didn't insist that horses be banned.

I really wanted to get an EV driver out on that stretch from Ogden to Laramie. Would love to see how long they can go.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (5HBd1)

56 -------

I still envision a future for California freeways with a dead electric tow-truck towing a burned & charred Tesla -- itself being towed by a dead electric tow-truck, which is also being towed by a dead electric tow-truck, etc. etc.
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (ylLOx)



I learned yesterday, in Denmark, they have a massive cover they use to put over burning Teslas in an effort to smother the flames.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

57 I remember a TIME magazine circa 1977 article declaring, "We're In" about the coming ice age. It was simply too cataclysmic and earth shattering to be neutral anymore in the face of such overwhelming evidence.

Then circa 1982 I remember watching a news broadcast that said within 10 years New York City could be as hot as Miami.

Now, they simply assert that any odd or extreme weather patterns are due to our abuse of earth and it is taken as gospel despite their being wrong previously.

And 10's of millions of people buy it hook, line, and sinker.

Posted by: RM at September 23, 2022 11:14 AM (0eYOS)

58 Joe Biden is so damn moderate that it's painful!
Posted by: 496 at

And decency must not forget decency.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 23, 2022 11:14 AM (eGTCV)

59 54 Why not the best?

Star Wars “Andor” Actress Says Her Performance Was Inspired by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez & Liz Cheney
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (FVME7)

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I remember how Meryl Streep's performance in The Manchurian Candidate was so obviously based on Hillary Clinton but she's insisted for years that it wasn't.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 23, 2022 11:14 AM (LvTSG)

60 Fauci didn't change his mind, the science changed.

a current mantra of our would be overlords.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 23, 2022 11:14 AM (Ynyl9)

61 >>Being able to have a gasoline-powered tow truck rescue you is an OK backup plan..

I would have loved to be their to see their faces as the, Oh shit/Light bulb moment washed up their spines like a white heat at what a monumentally stupid thing they had just done in purchasing their POS EV.

The funnier thing is going to be seeing the faces of all of the fools who bought the 100k Ford F150 Lightnings in about 10 years as they literally cannot drive farther than their driveways when their max Kwh battery can't hold a charge.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 23, 2022 11:14 AM (oJb1g)

62 Speaking of climate change, my youngest child, who moved from Central Texas to Blacksburg, Virginia for college has discovered that something called winter exists. Given that fall has just started, I expect many tears.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (z99Zw)

It gets danged cold there by the New River Valley. It only took this lunkhead 1 winter to learn to not schedule 8am classes during the winter trimester. Save that for the spring so you can have afternoons free to play slo-pitch softball.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 23, 2022 11:14 AM (4I/2K)

63 I get my Climate Science from a Palestinian agitator who has never heard the term "Celsius."

Posted by: Zek at September 23, 2022 11:15 AM (fsV7e)

64 “The Electric Family” decided to document their 500-mile journey from Lincoln, Nebraska to Denver

They're going to be sitting ducks for the Plains Indians. At least you can pull your own Conestoga Wagon if your horses die.

Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2022 11:15 AM (amJF4)

65
The funnier thing is going to be seeing the faces of all of the fools who bought the 100k Ford F150 Lightnings in about 10 years as they literally cannot drive farther than their driveways when their max Kwh battery can't hold a charge.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 23, 2022 11:14 AM (oJb1g)



And it costs them $34k to replace said battery.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

66 Let's say you and your family can afford more than one $65,000+ electric car. I know, but let's pretend you can.

Are you going to charge both simultaneously? Forget about it cost-wise. What would that require voltage-wise and permit-wise? That would be what, electricity for two or three additional houses plus the house you're living in, right?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 11:06 AM (Vx4B5)


Not to worry. After all the infrastructure to support fossil fuel vehicles is gone, we're planning on banning EVs for commoners. -- Your betters

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:16 AM (z99Zw)

67 Question.
The other day when I walked through the parking lot to the Y entrance I saw a parked car with no one inside running. When I came out over an hour later, it was still running. A couple of days later saw it again doing the same thing.
Is this something hybrids do to recharge? It just didn;t seem to make sense.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 23, 2022 11:16 AM (Y+l9t)

68 And it costs them $34k to replace said battery.

You're assuming China will continue to sell us lithium.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 23, 2022 11:16 AM (ayzS/)

69 The global warming lie has been around for over 20 years.

Not one of the models from 20 years ago accurately predicted today's temps.

Not one.

Because of there was one that was even close, ever article would refer to the "model that accurately predicted today's temperatures."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 23, 2022 11:17 AM (Zf0+a)

70 I learned yesterday, in Denmark, they have a massive cover they use to put over burning Teslas in an effort to smother the flames.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

Candle snuffers from church are tight!

Posted by: Count de Monet, former acolyte at September 23, 2022 11:17 AM (4I/2K)

71
Star Wars “Andor” Actress Says Her Performance Was Inspired by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez & Liz Cheney
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (FVME7)



"WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE ME!!???"

- - That Stupid Bitch

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)

72 1. Enforced scarcity
2. Rationing
3. Imprisoning Looters and Wreckers

Posted by: Zek at September 23, 2022 11:17 AM (fsV7e)

73 "The End of Snow?" -- NYT, 2014
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome


Getting close to season's end
I heard somebody say
That it might never snow again
In England

--Marillion, Season's End, 1989

Posted by: mikeski still likes the band at September 23, 2022 11:17 AM (P1f+c)

74 the government can print all the money it needs, and we will only need taxes to cure inflation. (an approximation of what the Modern Monetary Theory advocates will tell you)

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 23, 2022 11:17 AM (Ynyl9)

75 "Tell me Mr. Anderson. What use is gas-powered vehicle if you are unable to fuel it?"

Posted by: Agent Schwab at September 23, 2022 11:18 AM (/kjdB)

76 I don’t really want to laugh at the misfortune of a family getting stranded on the western plains because they made the foolish decision to tow a camper behind an electric pickup ...
*

It's the only effective way to defeat it.

They only understand being humiliated.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 11:18 AM (Vx4B5)

77 The global warming lie has been around for over 20 years.

Not one of the models from 20 years ago accurately predicted today's temps.

Not one.


Not quite. There was one outlier theory based on solar cycles. It came to a very different conclusion than the others. Guess which way.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 23, 2022 11:18 AM (ayzS/)

78 "Well, our electric truck videos didn't get me the kind of numbers I was hoping for--it's time to step up our game.

"Which one of you kids wants to go trans?"

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 23, 2022 11:18 AM (p+1gI)

79 *pulls from shelf The Hurricane and Its Impact by Robert H. Simpson and Herbert Riehl*

Interesting from 1958 to 1977, the busiest year for tropical cyclones to form across the globe was 1971.

A total of 97 storms that year. 14 in the NW Atlantic. 34 in the NW Pacific.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 23, 2022 11:18 AM (dSiNM)

80 Speaking of science changing, I just read that Sweden and a few other Eurotrash countries no longer have men's urinals in their public restrooms. Urinals make the Trans feel, well, inadequate. Pee sitting down science accepter.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 23, 2022 11:18 AM (ZCool)

81 The ironic thing about the EV towing fiasco is that part of their problem was due to the wind.

Posted by: Roy at September 23, 2022 11:19 AM (F7Oh5)

82 Are you going to charge both simultaneously?

Definitely, but only with Certified Green Electrons shipped from Canada by railcar.

Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2022 11:19 AM (Q14hI)

83 It gets danged cold there by the New River Valley. It only took this lunkhead 1 winter to learn to not schedule 8am classes during the winter trimester. Save that for the spring so you can have afternoons free to play slo-pitch softball.


it gets crazy cold! we went for a college tour last spring and I swear it was 20 degrees colder on the VaTech campus than where our hotel was. and windy!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 23, 2022 11:19 AM (w0NJk)

84 Nice chart there, Buck

NCCA- "Waaahhh!! You got biorhythms in my random number generator!!"

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2022 11:19 AM (cPDW+)

85 The nice thing about EV Pickup Truck is there is room for a gas powered generator in the bed.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 23, 2022 11:19 AM (Hudry)

86 I still envision a future for California freeways with a dead electric tow-truck towing a burned & charred Tesla -- itself being towed by a dead electric tow-truck, which is also being towed by a dead electric tow-truck, etc. etc.
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (ylLOx)


It's dead electric tow-trucks all the way down.

Posted by: The Ancients at September 23, 2022 11:19 AM (AiZBA)

87 I learned yesterday, in Denmark, they have a massive cover they use to put over burning Teslas in an effort to smother the flames.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden


Do like they do for oil-well fires. Boom!!!

Posted by: mikeski at September 23, 2022 11:19 AM (P1f+c)

88 The End of Snow?" -- NYT, 2014
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome

Sign me up!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 23, 2022 11:20 AM (FVME7)

89 Leftists have been making up fraud science for decades

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 23, 2022 11:20 AM (m1cRN)

90 Star Wars “Andor” Actress Says Her Performance Was Inspired by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez & Liz Cheney
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (FVME7)


So her performance was to have a big ass, donkey teeth and a butter face? Okay, whatever makes you happy I guess.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:20 AM (z99Zw)

91 Speaking of science changing, I just read that Sweden and a few other Eurotrash countries no longer have men's urinals in their public restrooms. Urinals make the Trans feel, well, inadequate. Pee sitting down science accepter.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 23, 2022 11:18 AM (ZCool)

Do what I would do, Pee on the floor or falls or in the sink

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2022 11:20 AM (dO/0d)

92 EVs are a fools errand. They are severely more damaging to the environment throughout their manufacture, use and disposal than any ICE vehicle.

Posted by: Archer at September 23, 2022 11:20 AM (gmo/4)

93 where do you charge your EV if you live in a big city? Maybe the pols can replace the parking meters with charging stations. They can make you pay for both. More winning.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 23, 2022 11:20 AM (Ynyl9)

94
So her performance was to have a big ass, donkey teeth and a butter face? Okay, whatever makes you happy I guess.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:20 AM (z99Zw)



Look at that big ass. Look at that juicy booty.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

95 Towing through Nebraska using an EV is just stupid. Whole lots of nothing between Denver and Omaha.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at September 23, 2022


***
Same between Denver and Salina, KS. You don't realize it, but going west you are actually going uphill very gradually; you're at 1000 ft. elevation at Kansas City and 4000 when you cross into CO. And there are long stretches between exits, and not every exit has a fuel station right there.

Even fewer for EVs. Heh, heh, heh. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 23, 2022 11:20 AM (J2vNu)

96 I think the "Electric Family" attempted a virtue-signalling stunt and then tripoed on their dicks. Pointing and laughing seems warranted, maybe necessary.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at September 23, 2022 11:21 AM (wBpKf)

97 “In the end we made it, but beware of EA’s chargers and have a backup plan,” she said.

Backup plan = A gasoline powered truck.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 23, 2022 11:21 AM (jyzkC)

98 Interesting from 1958 to 1977, the busiest year for tropical cyclones to form across the globe was 1971.

-
Well, Nixon was in office.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 23, 2022 11:21 AM (FVME7)

99 Has Wikidpedia changed the definition of "science" yet?
My bet is it will soon be something like: "A rational system of belief based upon a consensus of experts in the field. Ant. 'misinformation' and 'denialist' "

Posted by: Zek at September 23, 2022 11:21 AM (fsV7e)

100 4 Objection. I see no munkey.

it's the null monkey

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 23, 2022 11:21 AM (v3pYe)

101 Them guys there in the video gots pretty good voices.

Maybe they'll go someplace in that business. /s

All legends. Good song

Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 23, 2022 11:21 AM (FCbAQ)

102 The New River valley is pretty country.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 23, 2022 11:21 AM (W/9Bb)

103 The weather is racist. Hurricanes aren't coming around as much because they don't want ethnic names.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 23, 2022 11:06 AM (KFhLj)

-------

That tracks with the latest SCIENCE declaring that the sun is racist.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:22 AM (ylLOx)

104 You're assuming China will continue to sell us lithium.

And that they will still make your connectors and cases and chemical composition, or however they're shaped and configured.

Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2022 11:22 AM (Q14hI)

105 Some 10,000 years ago, the Sahara was a green savanna.

Somehow, primitive man survived that just fine.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 23, 2022 11:22 AM (Zf0+a)

106 The move towards EV's is a ruse. There's no indication that any effort's being made to accommodate them on the grid, service them when necessary at remote locations or provide any sort of routine maintenance at a reasonable price. Assuming you could afford one you'd be hard pressed to be able to keep it in service for consecutive days or months. Not because it's unreliable (maybe) but because of infrastructure changes that will never be made.

The idea is keep the population from moving about. I keep saying this; a mobile citizenry is difficult to subjugate.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 23, 2022 11:22 AM (BFigT)

107
Do what I would do, Pee on the floor or falls or in the sink
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2022 11:20 AM (dO/0d)



Continue to pee standing up, which will splash everywhere creating a need for workers to clean the toilet.

You've successfully helped the economy by creating a need for jobs.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)

108 I learned yesterday, in Denmark, they have a massive cover they use to put over burning Teslas in an effort to smother the flames.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden


***
Where, oh, where is OUR Red Adair?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 23, 2022 11:22 AM (J2vNu)

109 The ironic thing about the EV towing fiasco is that part of their problem was due to the wind.

Posted by: Roy at September 23, 2022 11:19 AM (F7Oh5)

The wind along there can greatly reduce mileage in an IC vehicle. Not surprised the effect was much worse for electric.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 23, 2022 11:22 AM (nC+QA)

110 The other day when I walked through the parking lot to the Y entrance I saw a parked car with no one inside running. When I came out over an hour later, it was still running. A couple of days later saw it again doing the same thing.
Is this something hybrids do to recharge? It just didn;t seem to make sense.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 23, 2022 11:16 AM (Y+l9t)


Was there an animal inside? I don't know about hybrids but Teslas will run the AC to keep it from getting too hot if it detects an animal.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:22 AM (z99Zw)

111 California is pushing to outlaw diesel semi tractors in the state. Mass starvation to follow.

Just to put this in perspective, to electrify one of these would require 8,000 pounds of battery.

Imagine trying to sell transportation services, where your vehicles cost twice as much as a diesel, carry 4 tons of deadweight per trip, and have a maximum range of 300 miles.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 23, 2022 11:22 AM (lTGtQ)

112 Look at that big ass. Look at that juicy booty.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

The moons of Andor...

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at September 23, 2022 11:22 AM (wBpKf)

113 Found out about an interesting climate change theory called the CLAW hypothesis. From wiki: "The hypothesis specifically proposes that particular phytoplankton that produce dimethyl sulfide are responsive to variations in climate forcing, and that these responses act to stabilize the temperature of the Earth's atmosphere."

Basically, they produce chemicals that get into the atm and promote cloud formation. Makes a lot of sense to me.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:23 AM (UuD2k)

114 Welcome to the Woke Guard.

RADM Jones, Commanding Officer Coast of Guard Base National Capital Region, also known as USCG HQ, apparently can't bring himself to say Columbus Day. This email went out to all CGHQ staff this morning-

-To the dedicated staff of U.S. Coast Guard Headquarters,
 
Within two weeks we will celebrate the Monday, 10 October 2022 Federal Holiday, an opportunity to spend time with family and friends as we enter the fall season. 
 
As a token of acknowledgement of your continued hard work and dedication, four (4) hours of special liberty/administrative leave is granted at supervisor discretion to all CG military and civilian personnel,...

Posted by: SnakePlizzken at September 23, 2022 11:24 AM (lnSKt)

115 Mad Max kicks the shit out of everyone!

https://bit.ly/3LGlMWc

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 23, 2022 11:24 AM (FVME7)

116 I saw a comment the other day (can't attribute) that sounds real, though I haven't seen any solid stats:

More people have already died in lithium battery fires than have ever died from operating nuclear power plants. Where's the outrage?


Posted by: GnuBreed at September 23, 2022 11:24 AM (JOtiF)

117 RM - I had the same experience, realizing these idiots had no idea what they were talking about. I was too young to comprehend the role graft and totalitarian objectives had behind the scenes.

Posted by: Kratwurst at September 23, 2022 11:24 AM (nIRE6)

118 The ironic thing about the EV towing fiasco is that part of their problem was due to the wind.

Posted by: Roy at September 23, 2022 11:19 AM (F7Oh5)

The wind along there can greatly reduce mileage in an IC vehicle. Not surprised the effect was much worse for electric.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 23, 2022 11:22 AM (nC+QA)

O-kla-homa! Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 23, 2022 11:24 AM (4I/2K)

119
The moons of Andor...
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at September 23, 2022 11:22 AM (wBpKf)



The best part about that is AOC LIED immediately after the 'incident.' Not one time did Stein say the word ass.

Also, she mentions that he did it IN FRONT OF A CAPITOL POLICE OFFICER who did NOTHING.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

120 I learned yesterday, in Denmark, they have a massive cover they use to put over burning Teslas in an effort to smother the flames.

*******

The circular polycarbonate fabric is known, in Dutch as a 'tuit'. The fire chief was quoted as saying, "We will extinguish the Tesla fire when we get a round Tuit!"

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2022 11:24 AM (cPDW+)

121 It gets danged cold there by the New River Valley. It only took this lunkhead 1 winter to learn to not schedule 8am classes during the winter trimester. Save that for the spring so you can have afternoons free to play slo-pitch softball.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 23, 2022 11:14 AM (4I/2K)


Apparently, they referred to this (43F) as "winter weather" when speaking to a classmate. Said classmate said, "that's just fall", and they replied "it's gonna be 97 back home". I wonder if they'll start to regret their decision.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:24 AM (z99Zw)

122 As soon as you read "decided to document their journey on YouTube" you know that these are virtue-signaling idiots and I lose all sympathy for them.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (p+1gI)

Exactly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2022 11:25 AM (Ol/i7)

123 When my son and I went on our tour of VT, it was April. Wife told us to take coats/jackets, but we blew that off. We froze our asses off in the wind.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 23, 2022 11:25 AM (Hn+0J)

124 According to Wiki, the Great Hurricane of 1780 killed between 20,000 to 27,000 people.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 23, 2022 11:25 AM (dSiNM)

125 I learned yesterday, in Denmark, they have a massive cover they use to put over burning Teslas in an effort to smother the flames.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

That's kind of cool, in a sad way. Necessity is the mother of invention, after all.

Posted by: pookysgirl, still with an engineer's heart at September 23, 2022 11:25 AM (XKZwp)

126 Well, Hurricane Sally wrecked the entire interior of my home two years ago. During the pandemic, of course. It was a complete shitshow first trying to find a general contractor to take on the project, then trying to find subs to do the work, all while there were supply chain issues on certain materials (windows took 10 months) causing delays.

We just moved back into our home in April. Not looking forward to the upcoming Hurricane Hermine coming into the Gulf, but at least there is no pandemic this time if my house gets hit again.

Posted by: bed head at September 23, 2022 11:25 AM (Y1sOo)

127 Should be a musical. "The Hills are alive - with the Sound of Laughter. And Ridicule."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (trdmm)

-------

LOL. The Von Trapped family ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:25 AM (ylLOx)

128 Thank you Buck for bringing this actual data to the discussion. So often, with Climate nuts, they start off with this mythical "storms are becoming increasingly dangerous and frequent" BS, when neither statement is true (as you show).

Then they move on to claiming, without evidence (heh!), that human economic activity cause some part of climate change. I'd be open to that claim if anyone could prove it, or find any evidence at all that supports it. Outside of fake models though, there is no such evidence (that I've ever seen).

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 23, 2022 11:25 AM (jyzkC)

129 "Tell me Mr. Anderson. What use is gas-powered vehicle if you are unable to fuel it?"

Posted by: Agent Schwab



Bravo

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 23, 2022 11:25 AM (lTGtQ)

130 Climate Change is the most convenient religion in the world. The presence or absence of anything is proof that it exists.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 23, 2022 11:26 AM (4olE8)

131 @92

>>EVs are a fools errand. They are severely more damaging to the environment throughout their manufacture, use and disposal than any ICE vehicle.

Exactly.

There are roughly 1 billion ICE cars in the world, an EVs battery pack has any where from 4000 to 7000 individual battery cells, that would mean at the high end, they would have to manufacture 7 trillion lithium ion cells just to replace existing cars, and trillions more into the future to support those cars.

Forget about PEAK OIL, we're probably already at PEAK LITHIUM already.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 23, 2022 11:26 AM (ShrZO)

132 I learned yesterday, in Denmark, they have a massive cover they use to put over burning Teslas in an effort to smother the flames.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

A dump truck loaded with dry sand would work fine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2022 11:27 AM (Ol/i7)

133 Question.
The other day when I walked through the parking lot to the Y entrance I saw a parked car with no one inside running. When I came out over an hour later, it was still running. A couple of days later saw it again doing the same thing. Is this something hybrids do to recharge? It just didn;t seem to make sense.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 23, 2022


***
I once worked with a lady who lived in Alaska for some years. She said that if you had a diesel vehicle, you would leave it running overnight in your garage so the fuel wouldn't gel and you could head right off to work in the morning. She told me it wasn't unusual in winter to see a diesel car or truck running in the parking lot of the grocery -- locked, but running.

What you saw, though, since it's still basically summer, I don't know.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 23, 2022 11:27 AM (J2vNu)

134 The collapse of science, whose most disastrous consequences are in the area of "climate" and public health, and its exploitation by totalitarian forces manipulating a far too submissive public, is the greatest threat to freedom and prosperity this era. Far eclipsing conventional threats, foreign or domestic.

Thus the relief when the House GOP unveiled its campaign agenda this week. Whose lead element is ...... wait for it .... *C19 vaccines*, and "beating this virus".

But not to worry. The rest of the "agenda" is vague, non-specific pablum and platitudes that do not mention a single urgent front of degradation.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2022 11:27 AM (OTzUX)

135 That's kind of the whole problem with long term climate things..there really aren't more than about 100 years of even slightly accurate observations and even radar and satellites didn't come into play til the 1960s. We really don't have any idea how many tropical storms there were before that per year.

Posted by: azjaeger at September 23, 2022 11:27 AM (9xJ16)

136 You have died of dysentery.

Posted by: The Electric Oregon Trail at September 23, 2022 11:27 AM (KFhLj)

137 California is pushing to outlaw diesel semi tractors in the state. Mass starvation to follow.

I predict big things for Consolidated Amish Freightways.

Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2022 11:27 AM (amJF4)

138 I can't link it because Doomberg is a paid subscription, but they found a major hard rock lithium deposit near Newry, Maine. But we can't develop it because Maine has the strictest anti-mining laws in the country.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at September 23, 2022 11:28 AM (5HBd1)

139 According to Wiki, the Great Hurricane of 1780 killed between 20,000 to 27,000 people.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 23, 2022


***
I guess none of them were listening to or watching the news.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 23, 2022 11:28 AM (J2vNu)

140 Question.
The other day when I walked through the parking lot to the Y entrance I saw a parked car with no one inside running. When I came out over an hour later, it was still running. A couple of days later saw it again doing the same thing. Is this something hybrids do to recharge? It just didn;t seem to make sense.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 23, 2022

Butt-dialed the Remote Start button of the key fob?

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 23, 2022 11:28 AM (4I/2K)

141 I believe the development of gas stations across the country was a private enterprise done via the companies that refined fuel. I do not know if any government subsidies were involved, but the refiners needed a way to sell their products. Few people are clamoring for EV. There is little to no incentive to build charging stations everywhere. Power mad politicians are demanding this fact of life and markets be ignored for their ideology.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 23, 2022 11:28 AM (6F+M3)

142 Everyone who says 'climate change' deserves a punch to the face.

Not saying you should do it, of course. But the deserve is there.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2022 11:29 AM (IyrhE)

143 What I observed from the tropical storm and hurricane frequency graph is they vary from year to year and that both are bounded by natural limits. Over the 50 year period of the graph, tropical storms range from a low of around 75 storms to a high of 115 while hurricanes range from around 35 to about 60. What I don't see is a climate crisis that claims both are increasing without limit. Lions, tigers, and hot air, oh my!

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 23, 2022 11:29 AM (/qNGG)

144 Back in 1985, we drove all the way from SC to Maine to go camping. Since it was late August I, of course, brought only shorts and tee-shirts. It got down to 36 degrees while we were on Mt. Desert Island.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 11:29 AM (yQpMk)

145 I learned yesterday, in Denmark, they have a massive cover they use to put over burning Teslas in an effort to smother the flames.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

A dump truck loaded with dry sand would work fine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


"Sir, I have bad news about the electric dump truck....."

Posted by: mikeski at September 23, 2022 11:29 AM (P1f+c)

146 Has Wikidpedia changed the definition of "science" yet?
My bet is it will soon be something like: "A rational system of belief based upon a consensus of experts in the field. Ant. 'misinformation' and 'denialist' "
Posted by: Zek at September 23, 2022 11:21 AM (fsV7e)


The high officiants (can't use gendered terms) of SCIENCE have finished examining the entrails of a lab grown chicken (no animal cruelty) and have determined that that sonogram reading do not actually evidence the existence of human life. All non-believers shall be put to death immediately.

All hail SCIENCE!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:30 AM (z99Zw)

147 I predict big things for Consolidated Amish Freightways.
Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2022 11:27 AM (amJF4)


No can do there friend. Methane!

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 23, 2022 11:30 AM (AiZBA)

148 Question.
The other day when I walked through the parking lot to the Y entrance I saw a parked car with no one inside running. When I came out over an hour later, it was still running. A couple of days later saw it again doing the same thing.
Is this something hybrids do to recharge? It just didn;t seem to make sense.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 23, 2022 11:16 AM (Y+l9t)

Hybrids don't recharge. It was just some idiot using his/her remote start to run the A/C to keep the car cool.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2022 11:30 AM (Ol/i7)

149 5 The number of Atlantic hurricanes in an average season has doubled in the last century due in part to warmer seas and changing wind patterns caused by global warming, according to a study released on Sunday.

-------

"The End of Snow?" -- NYT, 2014
Posted by: ShainS



"No More Winters" - The Guardian, 1999

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2022 11:30 AM (D8mow)

150 134
'House GOP unveiled its campaign agenda'
Useless bastards. They not only have no interest in helping their constituents they can't even be bothered to find out any of our concerns.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 23, 2022 11:31 AM (yvHe0)

151 The New River valley is pretty country.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 23, 2022 11:21 AM (W/9Bb)

That's what draws them in. Fun fact, the last words uttered by the Donner Party were "This is a pretty mountain pass."

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:31 AM (z99Zw)

152 People have backup chargers for phones but apparently not for vehicles yet?

Posted by: TexasDan at September 23, 2022 11:31 AM (bsXSq)

153 The main advantage of electricity is that it can be transported over vast distances with remarkable efficiency. It's biggest disadvantage is it's ability to be stored is limited.

EV's are essentially trying to exploit the biggest disadvantage of electricity.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:31 AM (UuD2k)

154 Definitely, but only with Certified Green Electrons shipped from Canada by railcar.
Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2022 11:19 AM (Q14hI)


Like the silly LEAD certifications for buildings, I think you are sensing a business opportunity here certifying electrons as Green Electrons!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 23, 2022 11:32 AM (o/bie)

155
Hybrids don't recharge. It was just some idiot using his/her remote start to run the A/C to keep the car cool.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2022 11:30 AM (Ol/i7)



They do, slightly, during the breaking process. But that doesn't really provide much.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)

156 I think my favorite example they love to use in support of their outlandish doomsday predictions of global warming is when they point to Venus--"that's what could happen here!"

I've seen Venus several times described as suffering"runaway global warming."

Such sound scientific hypothesis that ignores 1) is a lot closer to the Sun, and 2) it rotates barely once a year.

#2 would be enough to turn any planet in our orbit zone into hell.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 23, 2022 11:33 AM (Zf0+a)

157 Well Senator Cornyn (Republican!!! - TEXAS!!!!!) would presumably be pleased with the Coast Guard officer's unintentionally hilarious and idiotic compliance with the Gleichschaltung, erasing history.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2022 11:33 AM (OTzUX)

158 I had been looking at hurricane numbers only yesterday, and noted that NOAA made the Alarmist call earlier in the year, as they always do:
"NOAA predicts above-normal 2022 Atlantic Hurricane Season"

It's always 'above normal', every year.

https://tinyurl.com/45992mkf

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2022 11:33 AM (Wmbtn)

159 Isn’t most of northern Maine owned by some big lumber company? Maybe Big Lumber doesn’t want to let Big Mining in because it would interfere with lumbering.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 23, 2022 11:34 AM (Hn+0J)

160 People have backup chargers for phones but apparently not for vehicles yet?

Posted by: TexasDan at September 23, 2022 11:31 AM (bsXSq)



*smiles*

*waves*

Posted by: Your Local Generac Salesman at September 23, 2022 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)

161 Tansu YEĞEN @TansuYegen · 11h
When 2 groups of penguins meet on the road, they stop for a short exchange of information. When one of them moves in with the wrong group, a friend goes after him to bring him back🙂 🐧 🐧 🐧

https://twitter.com/TansuYegen/status/
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Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 23, 2022 11:34 AM (yikp0)

162 I think my favorite example they love to use in support of their outlandish doomsday predictions of global warming is when they point to Venus--"that's what could happen here!"...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 23, 2022 11:33 AM (Zf0+a)


Thank you, Carl Sagan.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 23, 2022 11:34 AM (AiZBA)

163 Forget about PEAK OIL, we're probably already at PEAK LITHIUM already.

Posted by: Thomas Bender



It isn't just lithium, there is not enough copper, manganese, zinc, or cobalt on the planet to produce a fraction of the first generation of EV. Look up Simon Michaux.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 23, 2022 11:34 AM (lTGtQ)

164 156 I've seen Venus several times described as suffering"runaway global warming."

Such sound scientific hypothesis that ignores 1) is a lot closer to the Sun, and 2) it rotates barely once a year.


3) it has a much more dense atmosphere

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 23, 2022 11:34 AM (v3pYe)

165 That's what draws them in. Fun fact, the last words uttered by the Donner Party were "This is a pretty mountain pass."
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:31 AM (z99Zw)

The true story is that the Donner party was following pamphlets from a sketchy real estate developer that advertised a short cut route that he had never been on and that very little people had ever used. They were acting on bad information.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:34 AM (UuD2k)

166 “In the end we made it, but beware of EA’s chargers and have a backup plan,” she said.

I find that everyone of the EV lovers who have issues in their long distance travels say this, but don't ever specify what exactly what that plan should be. There are 2 that I can think of an both highlight the issues with EV only travel:
1. Increase the number of charging stops - that way you can be sure to spend more time "refueling" than traveling.
2. Have some sort of gas powered rescue vehicle - that puts a damper in the pipe dream of total EV usage.

Posted by: scruboak at September 23, 2022 11:35 AM (I+dwr)

167 My favorite anecdata from the (non) climate crisis: At Glacier NP, the NPS posted signs showing that the park would be glacier free by 2020. They had to take all those signs down, b/c those darned glaciers persist.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 23, 2022 11:35 AM (lGrs1)

168 Hybrids don't recharge. It was just some idiot using his/her remote start to run the A/C to keep the car cool.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2022 11:30 AM (Ol/i7)


I am sure that they do recharge with the engine running. Girl928 has a Pius and she doesn't plug it in.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 11:35 AM (yQpMk)

169 150 134
'House GOP unveiled its campaign agenda'
Useless bastards. They not only have no interest in helping their constituents they can't even be bothered to find out any of our concerns. Posted by: Dr. Claw
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Luntz the Dunce is how they find out about constituent concerns. Curiously enough, Luntz finds the national GOP constituents' concerns are the same as Beltway GOPe surrender monkeys.

Posted by: whig at September 23, 2022 11:35 AM (CXr4y)

170 “In the end we made it, but beware of EA’s chargers and have a backup plan,” she said.

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Except you didn't, and my grandmother could have in her 2005 Buick without even having to think about it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 11:35 AM (Vx4B5)

171 it has a much more dense atmosphere
Posted by: kulak anachronda

Like Washington DC?

Posted by: Bruce at September 23, 2022 11:36 AM (vd8XM)

172 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2022 11:33 AM (Wmbtn)

And they are still going with that, even though the first few months of the season saw hardly any activity. They're saying the rest of season through 30 November is going to be very active. We'll see.

Posted by: bed head at September 23, 2022 11:36 AM (Y1sOo)

173 "Well, our electric truck videos didn't get me the kind of numbers I was hoping for--it's time to step up our game.

"Which one of you kids wants to go trans?"

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 23, 2022 11:18 AM (p+1gI)

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LOL. Modern Monetize Your Child Theory ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:36 AM (ylLOx)

174 People have backup chargers for phones but apparently not for vehicles yet?

Posted by: TexasDan



Most peoples' pockets are not rated to carry more than a ton.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 23, 2022 11:37 AM (lTGtQ)

175 I once worked with a lady who lived in Alaska for some years. She said that if you had a diesel vehicle, you would leave it running overnight in your garage so the fuel wouldn't gel and you could head right off to work in the morning.

OK, I can buy that reason. Now do the bubbas here in TX who leave their diesel pickups running outside McDonald's or while they're actually refueling because that's what big rigs do.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 23, 2022 11:37 AM (nfrXX)

176 147 I predict big things for Consolidated Amish Freightways.
Posted by: t-bird at September 23, 2022 11:27 AM (amJF4)

No can do there friend. Methane!


if you inject a spout into the anus and attach a balloon, you can capture the methane. it becomes a resource you can sell.

follow me for more top tips.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 23, 2022 11:37 AM (v3pYe)

177 The earth is warming. A big part of that is due to CO2 emissions. Humans thrive in warmth not cold. Plants grow better in higher concentration CO2.

It's a climate opportunity, not crisis.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 23, 2022 11:37 AM (g1EEm)

178 They got stranded in Ogallala? Why, they ought to Sioux somebody!

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2022 11:37 AM (cPDW+)

179 The Range Safety Officer at Cape Canaveral is reputedly hoping for a Hurricane, so he doesn't have to tell NASA to roll back to the hangar and change the fucking batteries!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 23, 2022 11:37 AM (peWy1)

180 Biden's last bill is spending $900 mil on EV chargers per year for the next 5 years.

Expect to see brokeass empty charging stations popping up all over the place.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:38 AM (UuD2k)

181 Friend of mine had rented 2 units in a building and used one as a home office (lawyer). When he was told the 2nd one was not rent-controlled (despite mgmt originally agreeing to its use as a home-office) and he was evicted from it, he was told he couldn't repaint it himself and would have to use the LL's super-expensive putz to repaint. OTOH, mockingly, he was told if he got EPA lead certified, he could repaint himself. He did. He repainted for a fraction of the cost and then pointed out to mgmt all of the EPA violations their guy was doing. Added these to the ongoing lawsuit he had against the building (on which I represented him). Wasn't worth a lot of money, but it did beget a nice insurance settlement. :->

Posted by: SFGoth at September 23, 2022 11:38 AM (KAi1n)

182 azjaeger, exactly. The laughable parody of "science" involved by even suggesting any reasonable inferences can be drawn from crude observations over a tiny period, for a system of systems that is *billions* of years old, is stupefying.

And Zek has a great observation. With so much of rational and modern and civilized standards just melting away or being tossed out, the de facto redefinition of "science" into the illogical nonsense that today *actually drives public policy, enabling incredible looting, vandalism, and destruction of freedom and opportunity*, is upon us.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2022 11:38 AM (OTzUX)

183 Back in 1985, we drove all the way from SC to Maine to go camping. Since it was late August I, of course, brought only shorts and tee-shirts. It got down to 36 degrees while we were on Mt. Desert Island.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 11:29 AM (yQpMk)

We used to go camping a lot when I was a kid, so my parents always insisted on: at least one pair of pants, socks, and extra underwear; and a sweatshirt. I still make my daughter pack that way, even if it's just an overnight at Grandma's.

Posted by: pookysgirl was listening, believe it or not at September 23, 2022 11:38 AM (XKZwp)

184 And remember, you shouldn't charge your battery above 90% or discharge it below 10%.

So any range starts at 80% of the estimates and decreases every year. (and doesn't take pesky things like winter into account)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 11:38 AM (Vx4B5)

185 Speaking of science changing, I just read that Sweden and a few other Eurotrash countries no longer have men's urinals in their public restrooms. Urinals make the Trans feel, well, inadequate. Pee sitting down science accepter.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 23, 2022 11:18 AM (ZCool)

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"We are all Sitzpinklers now."

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:39 AM (ylLOx)

186 I'm waiting for 5 years of EVs to start crapping out due to battery wear

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 23, 2022 11:39 AM (m1cRN)

187 EV's are essentially trying to exploit the biggest disadvantage of electricity.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:31 AM (UuD2k)
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What greenies may not realize is battery chemistry has been well-known for a hundred years. The physics of the charge/discharge cycle can be honed with better software, better construction, better cathode materials, and better electrolyte solutions, but you're still limited. Figuring out a solid state electrolyte helps, and figuring out a foldable form of lithium certainly helped, but we keep bumping up against the limits of chemistry.

Storing electricity for massive uses, like a city, is impractical (ie, crazy). Without storage, renewable energy sources are hugely expensive failures.

Instead, and stay with me here, how about producing enough electricity to power demand??? Huh?! 'Cause we can do that!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 23, 2022 11:39 AM (o/bie)

188 Biden's last bill is spending $900 mil on EV chargers per year for the next 5 years.

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So $20M will be spent on studies to see where chargers could potentially be placed, and the rest will be consulting fees.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 11:40 AM (Vx4B5)

189 They got stranded in Ogallala? Why, they ought to Sioux somebody!
Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2022 11:37 AM (cPDW+)



You asked for it.

https://is.gd/VujYrj

Posted by: Your Local Generac Salesman at September 23, 2022 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)

190 Speaking of science changing, I just read that Sweden and a few other Eurotrash countries no longer have men's urinals in their public restrooms. Urinals make the Trans feel, well, inadequate. Pee sitting down science accepter.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 23, 2022 11:18 AM (ZCool)

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"We are all Sitzpinklers now."
Posted by: ShainS

As a guy, sinks are in play too.

Posted by: Bruce at September 23, 2022 11:40 AM (vd8XM)

191 Didn't Uncle Joe drive a EV pickup and give it the thumbs up? I remember it had 2 steering wheels in case he forgot what he was doing.
Just hookup a gas generator behind the camping trailer, people do that with small cars.
Don't forget 2 cycle motors are going to be illegal also, tough on loggers who use chainsaws.

Posted by: Colin at September 23, 2022 11:40 AM (XqwVq)

192 Who can forget the hilarious, "the heat our models predicted were not observed. The heat must be hiding in the deep ocean."

You mean the deep, that is barely above freezing because it still hasn't warmed from the last ice age hundred of thousands of years ago?

Yes, yes, tell me more about how a 1 degree average annual increase will permanently irrevocably change the "climate."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 23, 2022 11:40 AM (Zf0+a)

193 H/t to whoever posted this here awhile ago, but one of the best questions that is never asked of these climate dolts is:

Just what is the optimal temperature for our globe?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 23, 2022 11:40 AM (KbCG3)

194 There was an episode of Top Gear (or Grand Tour) where Richard Hammond wrecked a Croatian built EV "hyper car" because it malfunctioned and went over the side of a mountain. He survived, barely. The batteries burned for 3 days before the Swiss fire department could extinguish the fire.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 23, 2022 11:40 AM (lGrs1)

195 Like the comet in Lucifer's Hammer, tropical depression nine is gathering its energy in the maelstrom of the warm southern Caribbean waters. It will soon advance into the inner Gulf of Mexico and curl northwards, probably making landfall on Hot Fudge Tuesdae.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 23, 2022 11:40 AM (4I/2K)

196 "The earth is warming. A big part of that is due to CO2 emissions."

Incorrect. And implausible, while also managing to be un-falsifiable. Respectively.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2022 11:40 AM (OTzUX)

197 And remember, you shouldn't charge your battery above 90% or discharge it below 10%.

Posted by: Moron Robbie


Supposedly, current day battery chargers moderate that golden middle. Yes, batteries are still a shit solution, but that trickle vs hard charge thing is gone now.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2022 11:41 AM (IyrhE)

198 I'm waiting for 5 years of EVs to start crapping out due to battery wear
Posted by: Skip's phone at September 23, 2022 11:39 AM (m1cRN)



Most will be putting their cars on the "super" chargers for the rapid charge. This will wear the batteries down even faster, cutting the lifespan significantly.

They will be screwed. A car, sitting in the driveway, dead, that they still owe $20 grand on.

Posted by: Your Local Generac Salesman at September 23, 2022 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)

199 The running vehicle in the parking lot.... it might have been remote started by the owner so it could cool down or heat up before they get in it. I think most vehicles with this feature will only idle for about 15 minutes then shut themselves off. I use this feature when it's really hot/cold outside and we're about ready to leave. Seats, steering wheel, everything that's heated or cooled comes on.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 23, 2022 11:41 AM (BFigT)

200 Nice chart there, Buck

NCCA- "Waaahhh!! You got biorhythms in my random number generator!!"

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2022 11:19 AM (cPDW+)

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"Those are fake biorhythms being generated by the measuring devices!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:41 AM (ylLOx)

201 Urinals make the Trans feel, well, inadequate. Pee sitting down science accepter.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 23, 2022 11:18 AM (ZCool)
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A message from Swedish women: "We aim to please all you trannies, so will you aim too, please?"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 23, 2022 11:41 AM (o/bie)

202 They do, slightly, during the breaking process. But that doesn't really provide much.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)

Well, in a hybrid, the charge/recharge cycle is constantly ongoing, countless times per trip. There is never a need to run the gas engine to recharge the battery.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2022 11:42 AM (Ol/i7)

203 We have high inflation, a broken supply chain and shortages, unaffordable energy costs, CRT and sexual groomers in our public schools, a contracting economy and layoffs, an unmanageable debt, Fascist LE Agencies, and rigged elections.

So the GOP's main campaign item is fighting a cold virus from three winters ago.

No one is this stupid. They want to lose.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 11:42 AM (yQpMk)

204 Do what I would do, Pee on the floor or falls or in the sink

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2022 11:20 AM (dO/0d)

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LOL.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:42 AM (ylLOx)

205 Ford is down to $12.09 a share. Seems inflation is kicking their EV ass.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 23, 2022 11:42 AM (Hudry)

206 Biden's last bill is spending $900 mil on EV chargers per year for the next 5 years.

Expect to see brokeass empty charging stations popping up all over the place.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe


Except in Tesla owners' garages! The supply of "personal use" chargers is expected to be rather limited due to Uncle Sam buying them all.

Posted by: mikeski at September 23, 2022 11:43 AM (P1f+c)

207 I'm waiting for 5 years of EVs to start crapping out due to battery wear
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There's a pretty darn good reason you can buy low mileage Nissan Leafs for $12K-$15K all day long.

https://tinyurl.com/2qa7bgtb
https://tinyurl.com/2khrhndp
https://tinyurl.com/2mz6myer

"Goes about 35 miles on a full charge, if you drive 70 on the highway the whole time, I've found you're more likely to get just under 30"

hahahaha

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 11:43 AM (Vx4B5)

208 DOW down 500+.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 23, 2022 11:43 AM (Hudry)

209 Some EV fanatic was trying to justify the government to fund all the chargers. Argument was something along the lines of "But those gas stations didn't all just pop up at once. Someone had to build them out ahead of gas car usage otherwise ICE cars would not have been adopted." Went dead silent when I pointed out that there are such things as gas.

Posted by: scruboak at September 23, 2022 11:44 AM (I+dwr)

210 So the GOP's main campaign item is fighting a cold virus from three winters ago.

No one is this stupid. They want to lose.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 11:42 AM (yQpMk)


Hold my beer, and yes we do want to lose. Adultin' is haaaarrrrrd. -- Mitch McConnell

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 23, 2022 11:45 AM (AiZBA)

211 Who can forget the hilarious, "the heat our models predicted were not observed. The heat must be hiding in the deep ocean."

Deep ocean heat is the dark matter of climate science. "We can't find it but it must exist because if it doesn't, all our beautiful equations are wrong."

Posted by: Oddbob at September 23, 2022 11:45 AM (nfrXX)

212 The earth is warming. A big part of that is due to CO2 emissions. Humans thrive in warmth not cold. Plants grow better in higher concentration CO2.

It's a climate opportunity, not crisis.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 23, 2022 11:37 AM (g1EEm)


Anything can be a crisis if the voters will give you more power as a result IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:45 AM (z99Zw)

213 such things as gas *cans*.

Posted by: scruboak at September 23, 2022 11:45 AM (I+dwr)

214 Added these to the ongoing lawsuit he had against the building (on which I represented him). Wasn't worth a lot of money, but it did beget a nice insurance settlement. :->
Posted by: SFGoth at September 23, 2022 11:38 AM (KAi1n)
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Plus, the sheer joy lawyers get from torturing a bad guy with legal processes.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 23, 2022 11:45 AM (o/bie)

215 Them guys there in the video gots pretty good voices.

Maybe they'll go someplace in that business. /s

All legends. Good song

Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 23, 2022 11:21 AM (FCbAQ)

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Most enjoyable, even if no stand-up bass in sight. Kind of interesting to see Barry Gibb restrained ... all amazing voices.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:45 AM (ylLOx)

216 209 Some EV fanatic was trying to justify the government to fund all the chargers. Argument was something along the lines of "But those gas stations didn't all just pop up at once. Someone had to build them out ahead of gas car usage otherwise ICE cars would not have been adopted." Went dead silent when I pointed out that there are such things as gas.
Posted by: scruboak at September 23, 2022 11:44 AM (I+dwr)

Also, the govt didn't do anything to promote ICE car usage. No gas stations were built with tax money.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:45 AM (UuD2k)

217 Supposedly, current day battery chargers moderate that golden middle. Yes, batteries are still a shit solution, but that trickle vs hard charge thing is gone now.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

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So you can't fully discharge your battery any longer? The "zero percent" the silly towing EV family mentions in their video was really 10%, and the manufacturers aren't allowing users the extra range in emergencies?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 11:46 AM (Vx4B5)

218
Let's see if I can guess the GOPe platform

- Corporate tax cuts
- Immigration reform, "to open the American Dream to all"
- Investigations, including sternly-worded memos

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2022 11:46 AM (1Nxff)

219 Who can forget the hilarious, "the heat our models predicted were not observed. The heat must be hiding in the deep ocean."


Damn sneaky heat

Posted by: Bruce at September 23, 2022 11:46 AM (vd8XM)

220 Star Wars “Andor” Actress Says Her Performance Was Inspired by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez & Liz Cheney

So she plays the character as a batshit insane backstabbing retard?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at September 23, 2022 11:46 AM (Bd6X8)

221 "Indian Summer" was wonderful. Thanks, Buck.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2022 11:47 AM (cTCuP)

222 I have come to believe the people working towards making fossil fuels illegal all live in the primary urban areas and the furthest they have ventured from them approaches never. If they had actually went and took the time to understand the American West they would realize that modern agriculture runs on oil and given the limited of range of EVs, the minimal electrical infrastructure in these primarily rural areas, and the amount of time to recharge a EVs leads directly to reduced output from farms and ranches. That will definitely work out well. The proverbial canary in the coal mine here is passenger EVs that can't make a normal western USA trip without getting stranded or taking twice as long or more than fossil fuel transportation. If the climate authoritarians and their phony climate crisis are successful at scale, they will cause catastrophic agricultural, economic, and social disasters that undo the last 500 years of technological advancement. Party like it is 1200 again.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 23, 2022 11:47 AM (/qNGG)

223
Not enough minerals for EVs? Just get used to driving less.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2022 11:47 AM (1Nxff)

224 Who can forget the hilarious, "the heat our models predicted were not observed. The heat must be hiding in the deep ocean."

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And "the water levels aren't rising because gravity is different at different places on the planet and it's making water pool in other places rather than every coastline everywhere."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 11:47 AM (Vx4B5)

225 They had an electric Ford F350 Lightning towing an Airstream camper.

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F350?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 23, 2022 11:47 AM (3vQN0)

226 Oops. I just checked with Stirling's vet. Seems a snip does not fully "take" until about 2 weeks afterward. It's only been a week today. They didn't tell me that when I picked him up; their only advice to me was to reduce his exercise and check for redness or swelling or infection -- not morning wood!

If he's gone and gotten Dagny preggers --!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 23, 2022 11:47 AM (J2vNu)

227 Lithium has a home here!!! *hic*

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at September 23, 2022 11:47 AM (Xrfse)

228 Also, the govt didn't do anything to promote ICE car usage. No gas stations were built with tax money.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:45 AM (UuD2k)

I might be misremembering, but I recall reading somewhere that the "EV vs. ICE" battle had already been fought out way back then. Before either was adopted as ubiquitous, both existed and had their proponents. Uncle Sam wanted EVs to be the new horseless-carriage standard. The people actually buying the things said otherwise.

There is nothing new yadda yadda yadda.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 23, 2022 11:47 AM (/EuRN)

229 "No one is this stupid. They want to lose."

I don't think so. They just are content to win by one seat, vs. 37, and are absolutely fanatically opposed to being accountable for any specific goals.

This jaw-droppingly idiotic "agenda" is clearly the result of surveys and focus groups. It is a laughable non-agenda that they hope will not interfere with the natural process of a mid-term election, in horrendous national conditions, just coming to them without any effort.

The pathetic platitudes about the economy - minus any specifics of course - are as predictable as they are contemptible. The C19 vaccine thing, and the trademark scientifically illiterate "beat this virus", are bizarre. Seems impossible that those were "issues" that emerged from the surveys.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (OTzUX)

230 Being able to have a gasoline-powered tow truck rescue you is an OK backup plan, I suppose, but it’s scary to think about what might happen when gas-powered tow trucks are illegal, and there is no way to rescue a stranded family in the middle of nowhere

Will the sign warning travelers in the Mojave that the next gas station is 250 miles away be replaced by one warning EV drivers that you can't get there (the nearest charger) from here even with a full charge?

Posted by: Fox2! at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (qyH+l)

231 Also, the govt didn't do anything to promote ICE car usage. No gas stations were built with tax money.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:45 AM (UuD2k)

Exactly. And when the gas stations weren't yet there, everyone carried a couple of full gas cans to get where they needed.

Posted by: scruboak at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (I+dwr)

232 Speaking of climate change, my youngest child, who moved from Central Texas to Blacksburg, Virginia for college has discovered that something called winter exists. Given that fall has just started, I expect many tears.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (z99Zw)

I watched the football game last night, most of the crowd were wearing coats/jackets.

Posted by: BignJames at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (AwYPR)

233 Well, if Imma reading the charts correctly, the market will start seeing a lift. Shorts have spike a high and now are looking to cash out.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (Hudry)

234 Average new car in 2021 was $48k. I find it funny how a $40k Tesla 3 is too expensive for the “common man” but $48k apparently is affordable.

Lol

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (3vQN0)

235 Incorrect. And implausible, while also managing to be un-falsifiable. Respectively.
Posted by: rhomboid


Sorry, but the science is not that complicated. CO2 is measurably increasing. It's clearly increasing due to human activity. CO2 absorbs in the infrared and hence enhances the greenhouse effect.

But it really doesn't matter anywhere near as much as the high priests of climate science claim. Why? Because the effect on temperature is logarithmic in CO2 concentration.

Let's say the earth warms 2C from a doubling of CO2. You have to double it again to get another 2C. And so on.

2C is no big deal and we are very unlikely to go much beyond that (IPCC thinks its higher but the actual data doesn't support their models).

Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (g1EEm)

236 @207

>>hahahaha

There's a British dude who did a ten year review of his leaf, said he loved it, except the range is now shit and that when he wants to drive long range he either uses his new Tesla Model 3 or his Kona EV.

BRILLIANT!!!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 23, 2022 11:49 AM (ShrZO)

237 There was an episode of Top Gear (or Grand Tour) where Richard Hammond wrecked a Croatian built EV "hyper car" because it malfunctioned and went over the side of a mountain. He survived, barely. The batteries burned for 3 days before the Swiss fire department could extinguish the fire.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 23, 2022 11:40 AM (lGrs1)


That was, IIRC, a Rivian. Not to worry, though, their new pickups are totally safe.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:49 AM (z99Zw)

238 Next time I'm at the Y, going to look inside the vehicle. It did not look like an electric car which is why I made note. Just a standard look SUV. Not one to be a Karen but it did seem odd to me especially after I saw it a second time. It also had kind of a smashed up DC license plate on the front. Just odd.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 23, 2022 11:49 AM (Y+l9t)

239 208 DOW down 500+.
Posted by: Puddinhead



Climate Change using different tactics!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2022 11:49 AM (D8mow)

240 Flatter than a table top / Makes you wonder why they stopped here / Tesla must have lost its charge / Or they lacked ambition one

In the great migration west / Separated from the rest / Though they might have tried their best / They never caught the sun

So they sunk some roots down in this dirt / To keep from blowin' off the earth / Built a town right here / When the dust had all but cleared

They called it Levelland

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2022 11:49 AM (cPDW+)

241 My rule is never RV or pull a 5th wheel without having a motorcycle hooked to the back.

Posted by: polynikes at September 23, 2022 11:50 AM (NVQas)

242 Tony Heller smelt it, then dealt it: https://realclimatetools.com/hurricanes.html

Posted by: Marooned at September 23, 2022 11:50 AM (w6hJ9)

243 234 Average new car in 2021 was $48k. I find it funny how a $40k Tesla 3 is too expensive for the “common man” but $48k apparently is affordable.

Lol
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (3vQN0)

$40k is cheap for a new car, but I suppose the argument is that people are afraid of being forced into the "new car market" when they otherwise wouldn't be.

$180k for a house isn't a lot, but if you are being forced to do so because the Alcalde said your house is condemned for no reason....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 23, 2022 11:50 AM (/EuRN)

244 Croatian EV = Rimac not Rivian

Posted by: scruboak at September 23, 2022 11:50 AM (I+dwr)

245 234 Average new car in 2021 was $48k. I find it funny how a $40k Tesla 3 is too expensive for the “common man” but $48k apparently is affordable.

Lol
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (3vQN0)

The cheapest Model 3 is $46,990.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:50 AM (UuD2k)

246 Found out about an interesting climate change theory called the CLAW hypothesis. From wiki: "The hypothesis specifically proposes that particular phytoplankton that produce dimethyl sulfide are responsive to variations in climate forcing, and that these responses act to stabilize the temperature of the Earth's atmosphere."

Basically, they produce chemicals that get into the atm and promote cloud formation. Makes a lot of sense to me.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:23 AM (UuD2k)

-------

One of the most convincing rational arguments to me for the proof of God is the tremendous number of "Goldilocks Conditions" necessary for life on Earth -- and that sound like it could be another one.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:51 AM (ylLOx)

247 Star Wars “Andor” Actress Says Her Performance Was Inspired by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez & Liz Cheney
_______

So, it's a comedy?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2022 11:51 AM (fs1hN)

248 245 The cheapest Model 3 is $46,990.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:50 AM (UuD2k)

=========

And you can still buy brand new Camrys for about $25,000.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 23, 2022 11:51 AM (LvTSG)

249
Puppies like blueberry glazed donuts.

Puppies and sugar. *shudders*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2022 11:52 AM (1Nxff)

250 Just what is the optimal temperature for our globe?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 23, 2022 11:40 AM (KbCG3)

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I ask that question all the time. I precede it by explaining that glaciers in the Alps receded about 10+ years ago uncovering lost villages.

So what is the correct temperature? The one we had 30 years ago? The one that those Swiss villagers lived in? Who the hell are we to say?

Posted by: 496 at September 23, 2022 11:52 AM (VJsqe)

251 218
'- Corporate tax cuts
- Immigration reform, "to open the American Dream to all"
- Investigations, including sternly-worded memo'

You're killing me.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 23, 2022 11:52 AM (yvHe0)

252 232 Speaking of climate change, my youngest child, who moved from Central Texas to Blacksburg, Virginia for college has discovered that something called winter exists. Given that fall has just started, I expect many tears.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:10 AM (z99Zw)

I watched the football game last night, most of the crowd were wearing coats/jackets.
Posted by: BignJames



It's chilly up thar in the hills. It's chilly in the burbs of Babylon DC.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2022 11:52 AM (D8mow)

253 Exactly. And when the gas stations weren't yet there, everyone carried a couple of full gas cans to get where they needed.
Posted by: scruboak at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (I+dwr)

Hardware stores and general stores sold gasoline by the 5-gallon can.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2022 11:52 AM (Ol/i7)

254 Hadrian, oh no. Much worse than that.

Literally no mention whatsoever of any of those things. No specifics, apart from the jaw-dropping emphasis and priority of "vaccine!" and C19.

They manage to take credit for the Trump economic boom*, which is absurd, and promise - without details - to restore it. And of course to restore the "American dream". Not literally a word from any of them about any of the actual, obvious, specific disasters ongoing, which the public of course opposes and wants to see action on.

* Only time Trump's name appears is in connection with the vaccines, which of course is his worst failure/mistake, by far, in his first term, though entirely based on trusting his incompetent technical advisers and their collapsed institutions

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2022 11:52 AM (OTzUX)

255 If there's any truth to the headlines Google is feeding me, Donald Trump is going to be imprisoned.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2022 11:53 AM (cTCuP)

256 "177 The earth is warming. A big part of that is due to CO2 emissions. Humans thrive in warmth not cold. Plants grow better in higher concentration CO2.

It's a climate opportunity, not crisis."

I think I've only ever seen one science/humanities commentator even broach a discussion of potential benefits of warning... that would be James Burke, who got everything else right.

Posted by: Sarahw at September 23, 2022 11:53 AM (g1vnC)

257 "There has been a substantial increase in most measures of Atlantic hurricane activity since the early 1980s, the period during which high-quality satellite data are available."
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Well yeah. Last centuries satellites just weren't up to snuff.

Posted by: Javems at September 23, 2022 11:53 AM (AmoqO)

258 234 Average new car in 2021 was $48k. I find it funny how a $40k Tesla 3 is too expensive for the “common man” but $48k apparently is affordable.

But a Model 3 won't haul around my family of 7 + 2 dogs.

Posted by: scruboak at September 23, 2022 11:54 AM (I+dwr)

259 Will the sign warning travelers in the Mojave that the next gas station is 250 miles away be replaced by one warning EV drivers that you can't get there (the nearest charger) from here even with a full charge?
Posted by: Fox2!

I am waiting for a Donner Party EV Edition to occur. I can imagine DOTs in the EV age will have crews to scoop up those who died because their EVs couldn't complete a trip. Don't want to scare the climate authoritarians.

Posted by: Lost In Spaceto at September 23, 2022 11:54 AM (/qNGG)

260 Are there any new vehicles sold without additional dealer markup?

Posted by: mr tmz at September 23, 2022 11:54 AM (rJ48h)

261 There was an episode of Top Gear (or Grand Tour) where Richard Hammond wrecked a Croatian built EV "hyper car" because it malfunctioned and went over the side of a mountain. He survived, barely. The batteries burned for 3 days before the Swiss fire department could extinguish the fire.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 23, 2022 11:40 AM (lGrs1)



https://youtu.be/A0MYr3IqZAY

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 11:54 AM (Zz0t1)

262
So what is the correct temperature? The one we had 30 years ago? The one that those Swiss villagers lived in? Who the hell are we to say?
Posted by: 496 at September 23, 2022 11:52 AM (VJsqe)

________

When the earth reaches the correct temperature, women will still complain that it's too cold. Or too hot.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2022 11:54 AM (1Nxff)

263 it’s scary to think about what might happen when gas-powered tow trucks are illegal, and there is no way to rescue a stranded family in the middle of nowhere

I am 100% ALL IN on Darwin taking charge and issueing awards to progtard lefty motherfuckers with EV wheels. Do it again. But in Death Valley. In August.

Posted by: BifBewalski's Phone at September 23, 2022 11:54 AM (3CCua)

264 Only the Scorpions could rock me like a hurricane.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 23, 2022 11:54 AM (anj39)

265 Croatian EV = Rimac not Rivian
Posted by: scruboak at September 23, 2022 11:50 AM (I+dwr)


TY for the correction.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 23, 2022 11:55 AM (z99Zw)

266 Average new car in 2021 was $48k. I find it funny how a $40k Tesla 3 is too expensive for the “common man” but $48k apparently is affordable.

Lol
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (3vQN0)

You know you aren't addressing stupid lefties right? What you think is a gotcha is an asinine, easily refuted statement.

Posted by: polynikes at September 23, 2022 11:55 AM (NVQas)

267 257 Well yeah. Last centuries satellites just weren't up to snuff.
Posted by: Javems at September 23, 2022 11:53 AM (AmoqO)

=========

So, the 1920s scientists weren't able to accurately track hurricanes that formed off the edge of Africa and never made it close to mainland America, dissipating in the middle of the Atlantic?

That's just crazy talk. It's just that there are more hurricanes now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 23, 2022 11:55 AM (LvTSG)

268 Sorry, but the science is not that complicated. CO2 is measurably increasing. It's clearly increasing due to human activity. CO2 absorbs in the infrared and hence enhances the greenhouse effect.

2C is no big deal and we are very unlikely to go much beyond that (IPCC thinks its higher but the actual data doesn't support their models).
Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (g1EEm)

C02 is measurably increasing, whether that has an impact on the temperature is dubious, it doesn't track tightly and expected increases in temperature have not occurred. Models that rely on C02 increasing temperature have consistently failed by large margins.
Ancient historical data for C02 is fuzzy at beast.

C02 is just a trace gas in the atmosphere anyways, absent the proposed positive feedback mechanism the greenhouse effect would be tiny.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 23, 2022 11:55 AM (eYoxG)

269 254 Hadrian, oh no. Much worse than that.

Literally no mention whatsoever of any of those things. No specifics, apart from the jaw-dropping emphasis and priority of "vaccine!" and C19.


fox seems to be all over mccarthy's updated "contract for america", without asking him how he's going to get anything done, since biden will just veto it.

they also don't ask us why we should trust him this time after the "we'll repeal obamacare, trust us" fiasco.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 23, 2022 11:55 AM (v3pYe)

270 When the earth reaches the correct temperature, women will still complain that it's too cold. Or too hot.
Posted by: Hadrian

Did you leave the toilet seat up again?

Posted by: BifBewalski's Phone at September 23, 2022 11:55 AM (3CCua)

271 $40k is cheap for a new car
____________

Really? I was in a cold sweat signing the purchase docs on a $26k Korean made mid-sized sedan.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 23, 2022 11:56 AM (fs1hN)

272 Average new car in 2021 was $48k. I find it funny how a $40k Tesla 3 is too expensive for the “common man” but $48k apparently is affordable.

Lol
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (3vQN0)

The cheapest Model 3 is $46,990.

+++
Until I retired, always made good money, and owned a house but never once bought a brand new car. usually drove them over 100,000 miles.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 23, 2022 11:56 AM (Y+l9t)

273 The cheapest Model 3 is $46,990.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:50 AM (UuD2k)


Shh. He's rolling.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 11:56 AM (yQpMk)

274 268 C02 is just a trace gas in the atmosphere anyways, absent the proposed positive feedback mechanism the greenhouse effect would be tiny.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 23, 2022 11:55 AM (eYoxG)

========

Isn't the prevalent theory that increased CO2 creates increased water vapor which then leads to the increased temperatures?

The problem being that there's never been any proof that the CO2 to water vapor connection actually exists?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 23, 2022 11:56 AM (LvTSG)

275 255 If there's any truth to the headlines Google is feeding me, Donald Trump is going to be imprisoned.

Posted by: creeper
--------------------
Google lies, censors, and snoops on its customers on a regular basis to 'nudge' them to vote the right way--why should you believe what google puts on your news feed?

Posted by: whig at September 23, 2022 11:56 AM (CXr4y)

276 Puppies like blueberry glazed donuts.

Puppies and sugar. *shudders*


I love that you spoil your dogs. Makes me feel less guilty about mine.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 23, 2022 11:57 AM (nfrXX)

277 I think I've only ever seen one science/humanities commentator even broach a discussion of potential benefits of warning... that would be James Burke, who got everything else right.
Posted by: Sarahw at September 23, 2022 11:53 AM (g1vnC)

Bjorn Lomborg, who believes there is a degree of AGW, but says that efforts to mitigate it wasteful, and doomed to failure, and that it would be better to simply adapt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2022 11:57 AM (Ol/i7)

278 I remember when there was horse and donkey poop all over the streets and they banned the sale of horse and donkey to get rid of the poop.

Posted by: torabora at September 23, 2022 11:58 AM (Y274z)

279 258 234 Average new car in 2021 was $48k. I find it funny how a $40k Tesla 3 is too expensive for the “common man” but $48k apparently is affordable.

But a Model 3 won't haul around my family of 7 + 2 dogs.


buy a can opener and turn it into a pickup

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 23, 2022 11:58 AM (v3pYe)

280 I think I've only ever seen one science/humanities commentator even broach a discussion of potential benefits of warning... that would be James Burke, who got everything else right.
Posted by: Sarahw


Richard Tol. But you're correct - they're very few and far between. There's a couple of generations now of scientists and bureaucrats that would be superfluous without the climate "crisis".

Not to mention that it has become essentially a religious, not scientific issue.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 23, 2022 11:58 AM (g1EEm)

281 The lack of EVs being able to go long range is a feature not a bug.

They want us unable to move and dependent on the government.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclopes at September 23, 2022 11:59 AM (PbwT0)

282 C02 is just a trace gas in the atmosphere anyways, absent the proposed positive feedback mechanism the greenhouse effect would be tiny.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 23, 2022 11:55 AM (eYoxG)

The CO2 warming effect saturates. It takes a doubling of CO2 concentration to get the same effect. And there is only so much incoming radiation. It's not a linear, no threshold situation.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 11:59 AM (Y5qcH)

283 Holy cats, that song is killer. Best falsettos in the business, right there.

Posted by: huerfano at September 23, 2022 11:59 AM (dTFZY)

284 The average new car price is $45,000, so it's crazy that people balk at a $25,000 motorcycle.

Same difference.

People don't have a use for a golf cart. People need real cars and trucks. EVs aren't real cars or trucks any more than motorcycles are. They can't function as real cars or trucks no matter how much people want to pretend that they can.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 11:59 AM (Vx4B5)

285 Good rant.

ICYMI, see also Pixy's

>>>Does green hydrogen cause brain damage? (Robert Zubrin)

>>>A great takedown on just how stupid the green hydrogen idea is from an actual rocket scientist.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 23, 2022 11:59 AM (yHsuS)

286 Really can’t get any lighter than an airstream. I have an old ad for airstream showing a Road bike towing one.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at September 23, 2022 11:59 AM (jqgXg)

287 275
My work PC browser has almost nothing but pro-left propaganda in my news feed. I keep requesting to remove it and it keeps coming back like roaches.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 23, 2022 12:00 PM (yvHe0)

288 Not to mention that it has become essentially a religious, not scientific issue.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 23, 2022 11:58 AM (g1EEm)

Research money.

*Bulletboys enter the chat*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 23, 2022 12:00 PM (W/9Bb)

289 @235
>>Sorry, but the science is not that complicated.

They have not proven that CO2 is the main driver of "warming," whatever the fuck that means because they have not defined a point or optimum to measure from.

CO2 has been demonstrated to be lagging while solar output has been demonstrated to be leading.

Solar Output goes up, temperatures go up, measured CO2 increases ever so slightly.

Atmospheric CO2 comprises a mere four one hundredths of a percent of atmospheric gases, mans contribution is minuscule, essentially a rounding error in a 5 quadrillion ton atmosphere.

These f**king jackasses think a complex, narrowly chaotic earth climate, driven by natural processes ,volcanic activity and extraterrestrial solar cycles and sunspot activity can be distilled to a f**king greenhouse where you grow tomatoes.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 23, 2022 12:00 PM (ShrZO)

290 quantum mechanic, even sorrier, but yes the science isn't that complicated, but you seem to have missed it.

CO2 concentration does not determine "earth temperature" by itself as the geologic record and paleoclimatology easily show. Even non-quantitative history confirms this.

Exactly what does combine to do so, and whether that changes or is constant, is not known or understood.

So there's just two tiny problems with all this. One, there's no basis for it (CO2 does not = temperature), and two, absolutely unclear that small temperature changes (which have occurred a zillion times) matter.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2022 12:01 PM (OTzUX)

291 Don't launch your boat with your Ford Lightning EV, btw.

"LAUNCHING OR RETRIEVING A BOAT OR PERSONAL WATERCRAFT
When backing down a ramp during boat launching or retrieval:
• Do not allow the static water level to rise above the bottom edge of the rear bumper."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 12:01 PM (Vx4B5)

292 Very nice tune, Buck, thank you. I'm glad that I got to hear it before I die in a hurricane.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 23, 2022 12:01 PM (a4EWo)

293
Research money.

*Bulletboys enter the chat*
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 23, 2022 12:00 PM (W/9Bb)



You asked for it......

https://youtu.be/GqxaCG9PBOs


And I thank you for it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 12:01 PM (Zz0t1)

294
I remember how Meryl Streep's performance in The Manchurian Candidate was so obviously based on Hillary Clinton but she's insisted for years that it wasn't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster


Then who did she base it on? Because her whole career hasn't been about acting, but about doing impressions.

As I keep saying, she's Rich Little with tits.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 23, 2022 12:01 PM (n+4am)

295
I love that you spoil your dogs. Makes me feel less guilty about mine.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 23, 2022 11:57 AM (nfrXX)

__________

It was only some tiny pieces. They (and Mama) get little tidbits of what we have. It's good training for them, so that in the show ring they focus on bait. Plus, they - unlike most people - are grateful and happy when they get a treat.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2022 12:01 PM (1Nxff)

296
These f**king jackasses think a complex, narrowly chaotic earth climate, driven by natural processes ,volcanic activity and extraterrestrial solar cycles and sunspot activity can be distilled to a f**king greenhouse where you grow tomatoes.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 23, 2022 12:00 PM (ShrZO)



Because Al Gore said so.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 12:02 PM (Zz0t1)

297 but that trickle vs hard charge thing is gone now.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2022 11:41 AM (IyrhE)

It's the worst part of waking up early.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 23, 2022 12:02 PM (44ww/)

298 These f**king jackasses think a complex, narrowly chaotic earth climate, driven by natural processes ,volcanic activity and extraterrestrial solar cycles and sunspot activity can be distilled to a f**king greenhouse where you grow tomatoes.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 23, 2022 12:00 PM (ShrZO)



First, posit an infinite atmosphere..

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 12:02 PM (yQpMk)

299
"LAUNCHING OR RETRIEVING A BOAT OR PERSONAL WATERCRAFT
When backing down a ramp during boat launching or retrieval:
• Do not allow the static water level to rise above the bottom edge of the rear bumper."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 12:01 PM (Vx4B5)



Woof.

That seems significant.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)

300 These f**king jackasses think a complex, narrowly chaotic earth climate, driven by natural processes ,volcanic activity and extraterrestrial solar cycles and sunspot activity can be distilled to a f**king greenhouse where you grow tomatoes.

*

The same people can't explain how bicycles work.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 12:03 PM (Vx4B5)

301 Re the ETR RSO: NASA is hoping he* won't waive the FTS batteries (again) so they can blame him for having to roll the vehicle back to the VAB to replace them. And work on the leaking valves on the first stage.

May be a she. I'm only a 20xx, not a biologist.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 23, 2022 12:03 PM (qyH+l)

302 294 Then who did she base it on? Because her whole career hasn't been about acting, but about doing impressions.

As I keep saying, she's Rich Little with tits.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 23, 2022 12:01 PM (n+4am)

=========

She says Peggy Noonan, Condoleezza Rice, and Dick Cheney.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 23, 2022 12:03 PM (LvTSG)

303 The average new car price is $45,000, so it's crazy that people balk at a $25,000 motorcycle.

Same difference.

People don't have a use for a golf cart. People need real cars and trucks. EVs aren't real cars or trucks any more than motorcycles are. They can't function as real cars or trucks no matter how much people want to pretend that they can.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022


***
*I* balk at $25K for a car and would never consider something at almost 2x that. Especially not something as niche and impractical as an EV. True, I paid about $22K for my LaCrosse in '19 -- but it's almost the top-of-the-line model, was lightly used with low miles, and has been one of the best bargains I ever struck.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 23, 2022 12:03 PM (J2vNu)

304 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 23, 2022 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)

305 These f**king jackasses think a complex, narrowly chaotic earth climate, driven by natural processes ,volcanic activity and extraterrestrial solar cycles and sunspot activity can be distilled to a f**king greenhouse where you grow tomatoes.
_______________

HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!

Posted by: Disturbed Scandi Teenager at September 23, 2022 12:03 PM (fs1hN)

306 Comparing the lowest price of a Tesla ( even that's incorrect) to the average price of all IC cars is first an illogical comparison.

Posted by: polynikes at September 23, 2022 12:03 PM (NVQas)

307 Nutcase sets himself on fire to protest global.enwarmening then chickens out.

https://bit.ly/3Uzo7WF

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 23, 2022 12:03 PM (FVME7)

308 My work PC browser has almost nothing but pro-left propaganda in my news feed. I keep requesting to remove it and it keeps coming back like roaches.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 23, 2022 12:00 PM (yvHe0)

What is a "news feed"? I have never had a browser with a news feed. And I have not used a "home page" for decades.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2022 12:04 PM (Ol/i7)

309
As I keep saying, she's Rich Little with tits.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 23, 2022 12:01 PM (n+4am)

________

Meryl Streep doesn't play a role, she plays Meryl Streep playing a role (see also, Katharine Hepburn).

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2022 12:04 PM (1Nxff)

310 Don't launch your boat with your Ford Lightning EV, btw.

"LAUNCHING OR RETRIEVING A BOAT OR PERSONAL WATERCRAFT
When backing down a ramp during boat launching or retrieval:
• Do not allow the static water level to rise above the bottom edge of the rear bumper."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 12:01 PM


You know some idiot is going to do that. I await the YouTube video.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 23, 2022 12:05 PM (Wnv9h)

311 Greenhouses are a terrible analogy. They really only use it to relate to dumdums. Greenhouses block conductive and convective heat transfer. The so called "greenhouse effect" is radiative heat transfer.

Also, greenhouses are kept warm by the CO2 generator they use to increase plant growth. Usually a gas burner.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 23, 2022 12:05 PM (Y5qcH)

312 ×tips hat*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 23, 2022 12:05 PM (W/9Bb)

313 I remember a TIME magazine circa 1977 article declaring, "We're In" about the coming ice age. It was simply too cataclysmic and earth shattering to be neutral anymore in the face of such overwhelming evidence.

Then circa 1982 I remember watching a news broadcast that said within 10 years New York City could be as hot as Miami.

Now, they simply assert that any odd or extreme weather patterns are due to our abuse of earth and it is taken as gospel despite their being wrong previously.

And 10's of millions of people buy it hook, line, and sinker.
Posted by: RM at September 23, 2022 11:14 AM (0eYOS)

The 1974 Times article on Global Cooling.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1663607/posts

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at September 23, 2022 12:05 PM (Zvtjl)

314 C02 is measurably increasing, whether that has an impact on the temperature is dubious, it doesn't track tightly and expected increases in temperature have not occurred. Models that rely on C02 increasing temperature have consistently failed by large margins.
Ancient historical data for C02 is fuzzy at beast.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy


The sign of the impact of CO2 on temperature is not in dispute. That's basic physics. The models fail in magnitude, not sign. Primarily because because they fail to correctly account for all the other atmospheric processes.

Paleo (historical) data is useful. But it has been misused by the high priests of climate science as well.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 23, 2022 12:06 PM (g1EEm)

315 The 1974 Times article on Global Cooling.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1663607/posts

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at September 23, 2022 12:05 PM (Zvtjl)

It was all just an elaborate ploy to outlaw hairspray.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 23, 2022 12:06 PM (/EuRN)

316 Senile Joe is too thick to even remotely understand any of this. He's obviously just a puppy.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 23, 2022 12:06 PM (eGTCV)

317
He's obviously just a puppy.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 23, 2022 12:06 PM (eGTCV)

_________

Puppies are capable of learning.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2022 12:08 PM (1Nxff)

318 Except for acceleration, would a comparable ICC to a Tesla be a Toyota Corolla?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 12:08 PM (yQpMk)

319 >>>Being able to have a gasoline-powered tow truck rescue you is an OK backup plan, I suppose, but it’s scary to think about what might happen when gas-powered tow trucks are illegal, and there is no way to rescue a stranded family in the middle of nowhere.

The dumb abounds. Doing an EV stunt is one thing, if you're looking to get likes or social media cred and virtue. But stranding your family on the side of the road due to foreseeable circumstances is the height of responsibility.

$100-150K in camper and vehicle, and you can't add a generator and a gas can to your kit. F that guy in particular.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 23, 2022 12:08 PM (yHsuS)

320 Maybe a Hundi Sonata.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 12:09 PM (yQpMk)

321 187 Storing electricity for massive uses, like a city, is impractical (ie, crazy). Without storage, renewable energy sources are hugely expensive failures.

i don't understand how the villain's evil plot from a comic book movie (batman returns) became the amazing green plan to save us all.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 23, 2022 12:09 PM (v3pYe)

322 some interesting anomalies in that graph...
in 2000 "named storms" plummeted dramatically, but actual hurricane/cyclones remained nearly flat.
Top and bottom lines at least somewhat follow each other EXCEPT in '07-2010,where they totally diverge and named storms skyrocket while actual hurricanes/cyclones drop significantly...
as far as what Month is the worst, The "Big One", americas worst hurricane that hit Galveston on sept 8th 1900...it then ran due north through the US actually hitting Iowa...Chicago had many deaths and 85mph winds, steam ships capsized and sunk on Lake Erie, deaths in NY, 77mph winds in Toronto, ...Montreal...thence up through Newfoundland...it caused more than 232 deaths in 6 Canadian provinces. Perhaps many more as hundreds of "Missing" were never found. On Lake Champlain it caused 10ft plus storm surges, drying out the western end of the lake and causing 20ft waves on the Vermont side.

Posted by: birddog at September 23, 2022 12:09 PM (uAI4S)

323 Issue isn't Biden or his bimbette replacement vetoing anything. It's that there's nothing to veto. They won't veto any idiotic additional $ poured down the vaccine hole. They'll double it.

The GOP hasn't mentioned any specifics and won't because it has no intention of even attempting to do anything about any important issue.

Contract with America was a list of specifics. Even Boehner's last-second hostage-video "agenda" stunt in 2010 had specifics (which of course weren't pursued). This is meaningless pablum that would embarrass a kid running for high school class government.

And, almost my favorite part - half of these non-entities *wore masks!*, *outside on the Capitol steps!*, for this event. The GOP - and its voters - are beyond parody.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2022 12:09 PM (OTzUX)

324 WUTT??

Posted by: D. Parton at September 23, 2022 12:09 PM (Zvtjl)

325 height of irresponsibility

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 23, 2022 12:09 PM (yHsuS)

326
California is pushing to outlaw diesel semi tractors in the state. Mass starvation to follow.

Posted by: Thomas Paine


Mass starvation nationwide. Just the LA/Long Beach port complex alone handles a bit over 30% of all US shipping container traffic, both import and export.

Without diesel semis to move it out of the port or even WITHIN the port complex to load onto trains, all that traffic stops. The fact that Bai-Den hasn't immediately put Newsome's head on a spike over this attempt to destroy the US economy proves that they're all motivated by destruction and death.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 23, 2022 12:10 PM (n+4am)

327 243 234 Average new car in 2021 was $48k. I find it funny how a $40k Tesla 3 is too expensive for the “common man” but $48k apparently is affordable.

Lol
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 23, 2022 11:48 AM (3vQN0)

$40k is cheap for a new car, but I suppose the argument is that people are afraid of being forced into the "new car market" when they otherwise wouldn't be.

$180k for a house isn't a lot, but if you are being forced to do so because the Alcalde said your house is condemned for no reason....

Posted by: Warai-otoko
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FWIW, the median household is now spending about 71k per year up from 60 K or so in 2020. So effectively, the Biden junta has made everyone poorer by about 11k in two years. So yes, 46k is probably not affordable for a majority of households especially as that does not include tradein value, cost of rewiring house for rapid charging, and so on.

Posted by: whig at September 23, 2022 12:10 PM (CXr4y)

328 It was all just an elaborate ploy to outlaw hairspray.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 23, 2022 12:06 PM (/EuRN)

WUTT?? Those bastages!!

Posted by: D. Parton at September 23, 2022 12:11 PM (Zvtjl)

329 I always fall back to my baseline position:

EVs exist. You can buy one if you want one. You can not if you don't.

The problem isn't this car or that car, or its merits or demerits relative to something else. The problem is lying hucksters drafting bullshit regulations that force you into buying something you neither want nor need. Or force you to not buy something you both want and need.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 23, 2022 12:13 PM (/EuRN)

330 George Carlin said it best: "Save The Planet? Pleaaassseee. All these white liberals trying to make the planet safe for their Volvos make me sick!"

https://tinyurl.com/4r6ja59b

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 23, 2022 12:14 PM (fjj/W)

331 If there's any truth to the headlines Google is feeding me, Donald Trump is going to be imprisoned.

Same Google feeds that said he was going to be removed from office during both impeachment proceedings?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at September 23, 2022 12:15 PM (Bd6X8)

332 Hurricane Fiona wanted nothing to do with Shrek, in fact she described him to her friends as 'a big fat thunderstorm with no wind, unable to rain more than a dribble'. She left him after meeting Hurricane Paolo in Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Eromero at September 23, 2022 12:16 PM (gktX6)

333 And, almost my favorite part - half of these non-entities *wore masks!*, *outside on the Capitol steps!*, for this event. The GOP - and its voters - are beyond parody.

Posted by: rhomboid
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I don't blame the GOP voters in this case--it is more the fact that GOPe is reflecting the preferences of its donor class which are socially left but economically allergic to taxation but not government spending/borrowing. There is also significant evidence that GOPe is involved deeply in rigging races like primaries (see Murkowski and ranked order voting which screwed Palin recently). So the voters are faced with letting the insane run the asylum or the corrupticans.

Posted by: whig at September 23, 2022 12:17 PM (CXr4y)

334 In other words, there's no need to insist that everyone despise electric vehicles as the stupidest invention ever created by human hands to hold the position that forcing the mass adoption of *any* product is counterproductive and morally wrong.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 23, 2022 12:17 PM (/EuRN)

335 Texans response? Raise the entire city of Galveston, in ONE YEAR, some areas by 17ft, no such problem since. with PRIVATE money...not federal.
NY/NJ folks are still trying to get the feds to clean up after Sandy(oct 22-Nov2nd 2012) TEN YEARS later instead of just doing it themselves

Posted by: birddog at September 23, 2022 12:19 PM (uAI4S)

336 The "zero percent" the silly towing EV family mentions in their video was really 10%, and the manufacturers aren't allowing users the extra range in emergencies?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 23, 2022 11:46 AM (Vx4B5)

If they did, everyone would put it in that mode all the time and dead would really be dead.
Much like motorcyclists that leave their petcock in reserve mode, have the bike pushed a few miles to fill up and then have a very hard time getting it to start.
This is because they are stupid and don't put it in prime mode, but there'd be an EV equivalent to that.
Also, batteries don't like being dead dead. They only come back a few times from that.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 23, 2022 12:21 PM (FCbAQ)

337 That's kind of the whole problem with long term climate things..there really aren't more than about 100 years of even slightly accurate observations and even radar and satellites didn't come into play til the 1960s. We really don't have any idea how many tropical storms there were before that per year.

The coast from South America, through the Caribbean and Gulf, up to Nova Scotia, is littered with the wrecks of ships caught by hurricanes. Unexpectedly and by surprise.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 23, 2022 12:33 PM (qyH+l)

338 Boy howdy,. Having driven an EV for well over a year one thing is a constant, Electrify America sucks ass. 2 weeks ago
between Florence SC and Jacksonville Florida we saw at least 60 percent of their chargers our of service. Some locations only 1 of 4 some 2 of 4 , the one in Pooler Ga was 1 good one of the 6 stations.

Posted by: Garyfl at September 23, 2022 12:37 PM (zT4pr)

339 "Climate change" has nothing to do with science, and everything to do with political power.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 23, 2022 12:38 PM (p+1gI)

340 I grew up in eastern North Dakota. Blacksburg is tropical in comparison.

Posted by: free tibet at September 23, 2022 12:49 PM (Qq7oc)

341 179 The Range Safety Officer at Cape Canaveral is reputedly hoping for a Hurricane, so he doesn't have to tell NASA to roll back to the hangar and change the fucking batteries!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 23, 2022 11:37 AM (peWy1)


No doubt about it. Last night Space Force Range Safety did approve NASA's waiver request to go with the installed batteries to at least Sept. 27th. I am sure no pressure from above was imposed. NOT.

Posted by: Gref at September 23, 2022 12:51 PM (AMIL/)

342 If there are very few or no hurricanes hitting the coasts of North and Central America this season, you can bet everything you possess that the climatistas will find a way to declare that it was solely due to CO2-driven climate change and it is bad. Some major hurricanes pummeling North and Central America every year will suddenly be deemed necessary for some reason.

Posted by: Gref at September 23, 2022 12:58 PM (AMIL/)

343 Ford F-150 Lightning

Electrify America charging station

Have problems <- Expectations met!

Posted by: ObeliskToucher at September 23, 2022 01:04 PM (DUu0q)

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Posted by: Sarah at September 23, 2022 01:15 PM (STTOv)

345 Back in 1985, we drove all the way from SC to Maine to go camping. Since it was late August I, of course, brought only shorts and tee-shirts. It got down to 36 degrees while we were on Mt. Desert Island.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 23, 2022 11:29 AM (yQpMk)


And this is why the confederacy would never have successfully invaded the north!

That and long bows.



Posted by: Archer at September 23, 2022 01:16 PM (gmo/4)

346 A minor coda to those EV towing follies:

Heading westward across Nebraska, it is not really all that evident that you are going uphill. Whatever mpg or mpkw you're supposed to be getting is being severely strained by that lengthy uphill climb. I've watched my typical highway gas mileage drop from 31 mpg to 24 mpg over the 70 mile stretch between Ogallala and Sydney.

If you're driving westward across the Great Plains, drop your mileage expectations by at least 1/3.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at September 23, 2022 01:23 PM (K58O6)

347 86 I still envision a future for California freeways with a dead electric tow-truck towing a burned & charred Tesla -- itself being towed by a dead electric tow-truck, which is also being towed by a dead electric tow-truck, etc. etc.
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 23, 2022 11:12 AM (ylLOx)

It's dead electric tow-trucks all the way down.

Posted by: The Ancients at September 23, 2022 11:19 AM (AiZBA)
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Eventually you'll get to the hamsters.

Posted by: Ciampino at September 23, 2022 02:25 PM (qfLjt)

348 I LOVE that video Buck

Posted by: Summer at September 23, 2022 03:24 PM (vlnPF)

349 If Al Gore was realy serious about this Global Warming/Climate Change he would live in a Grass Hut and Obama would be living further inland

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