Wednesday Morning Rant [Joe Mannix]

Low Trust

A common theme in much of the news over the past several years is the insincerity, dishonesty and outright fiction masquerading as fact. As is often said about this here, "everything is fake." The phoniness extends to all things and permeates every facet of public life. Virtually everything is, in short, a lie.

When people realize this, it is often traumatic. As Naomi Wolf put it in her column:

But now, when I did the exact same thing for which they had long applauded me, I was cast immediately into social outer darkness.
Why? Because the times had changed.
And because the scale of the revenue generated for them by supporting flat out lies, had changed.

Sometimes it's a grift. Sometimes it's ideological. Sometimes it's just rank, reflexive dishonesty. Causes aside, deceit is now the norm and the high-trust civilization we have built over the past several centuries will not survive this shift from default trust.

We have gone from "trust unless you have reason not to" to "trust but verify" and now, increasingly, "distrust unless verified." Next up is "distrust, period" and then the transition from high trust to moderate trust to low trust to zero trust will be complete. What will that look like? We can look to other extant low-trust societies for examples.

What can we expect as trust continues to die? Self-defense, for one. A man's home is his castle, but in a low-trust society it must also become his literal fortress. Walls and gates, bars on windows and brick rather than wood construction will become more common. Crime is the norm and cops are at best unhelpful, so it's on you to man your own defenses. Vigilantism grows.

Defense against fraud becomes important, too. The price on the shelf isn't the price the computer rings up. You'll have to take notes and protest when the store tries to rob you. The ingredients list on the package won't reflect reality. Defending your money gets harder, too. The bank will steal it or just lock it up. So will the government. Cause? Evidence? Why do those matter? Cash usage will increase and the First Bank of Stearns & Foster will make a comeback.

Black markets will grow and thrive. Although people can be arbitrarily eliminated from the legal markets without cause, they still need to eat and wear clothes and so the black market will fill the void. It will fill that void at great expense and risk, but it will be effective.

And everything slows down under the weight of individual defense, protection and verification. Everything also gets more expensive. Low-trust societies are, in short, poor and inefficient. They have to be. You can't layer complexity - and broad-spectrum wealth - atop a foundation of sand.

There is a reason why honesty is one of the Ten Commandments. "Thou shalt not bear false witness" is there for a reason. As our transition to low-trust continues, we will all get a visceral reminder of why that is.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:00 AM

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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

2 Boom.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

3 Off to get the others.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

4 And everything slows down under the weight of individual defense, protection and verification. Everything also gets more expensive. Low-trust societies are, in short, poor and inefficient. They have to be. You can't layer complexity - and broad-spectrum wealth - atop a foundation of sand.

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Yeah, but it's great for graft.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 14, 2022 11:01 AM (LvTSG)

5 Trust, but verify.

Posted by: BignJames at September 14, 2022 11:02 AM (AwYPR)

6 Good rant Joe!

Posted by: Zeera. 'Nobody Cares, Drink Harder' at September 14, 2022 11:02 AM (Oak/b)

7 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at September 14, 2022 11:02 AM (TgHYU)

8 Top Ten

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 14, 2022 11:02 AM (ViCCR)

9 I think we can come back from the present societal degradation - we did in the 70s. It wasn't fun then, and it won't be fun now, but it can be done.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:02 AM (ayzS/)

10 6 months ago Trump said his BFF was a genius for sending peacekeepers troops into Ukraine
Biden disagreed

Posted by: Forrest gump at September 14, 2022 11:02 AM (tfidB)

11 Trust nothing you hear from the media and you'll be fine.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2022 11:02 AM (BFigT)

12 One of the things certain in life is the Left will eventually turn on each other. Criminals do the same.

Posted by: polynikes at September 14, 2022 11:03 AM (y60WL)

13 Most voters believe ultra radical extreme divisive President Joe Biden has divided the country despite promising to unite it, a survey from Convention of States Action/Trafalgar Group found.

Posted by: SMOD at September 14, 2022 11:03 AM (RHGPo)

14 OT, L A county supervisor Sheila kuehl bitching about being served a "bogus" search warrant.
WELCOME TO MAR A LAGO, DYKE!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty of BAD TRUMPY MANS! at September 14, 2022 11:03 AM (gjZql)

15 First!!! After Sponge, of course!

Posted by: Archer at September 14, 2022 11:03 AM (gmo/4)

16 If it's on the internet, it's true. Always. Do not question.

Posted by: Reliable Sources at September 14, 2022 11:03 AM (Zz0t1)

17 One of the things certain in life is the Left will eventually turn on each other. Criminals do the same.

I do enjoy the current spate of spats between trannies and lesbians.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:03 AM (ayzS/)

18 Why? Because the times had changed.

WRONG Naomi...hate to break it to you, but the politicians and academicians and journalistic elites you so admired, and who claimed you as their own...

just are doing what the agenda you supported would naturally morph into.

Ever hear of the term 'useful idiot"?

Posted by: kallisto at September 14, 2022 11:04 AM (dCxaZ)

19 The Troubleshooter motto from the tabletop roleplaying game Paranoia will become relevant:

"Stay alert. Trust no one. Keep your laser handy!"

P.S. The Computer is Your Friend, Citizen!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 14, 2022 11:04 AM (YIVH2)

20 Bill Clinton taught me one thing...if his mouth is moving...he's lying.

Posted by: BignJames at September 14, 2022 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

21 Damn, Sponge, two firsts in one day?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2022 11:04 AM (4p7Em)

22 I shall witness bare falsies.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

23 lol

Naomi Wolf then: writes an autobiography of her vag.

Naomi wolf now: THE TIMES HAVE CHANGED THEY HATE ME WHY WHY WHY IT'S NOT FAIR

Posted by: kallisto at September 14, 2022 11:05 AM (dCxaZ)

24 The other thing that is certain is retards like the Forest Gump troll will be miserable their entire lives and want to make others just as miserable.

Posted by: polynikes at September 14, 2022 11:05 AM (y60WL)

25 Damn, Sponge, two firsts in one day?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2022 11:04 AM (4p7Em)

Forget it, I'm rolling.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

26 WRONG Naomi...hate to break it to you, but the politicians and academicians and journalistic elites you so admired, and who claimed you as their own...

just are doing what the agenda you supported would naturally morph into.

Ever hear of the term 'useful idiot"?

Impossible! I went to Yale!

Posted by: Naomi Wolf at September 14, 2022 11:05 AM (ayzS/)

27 Posted by: Forrest gump at September 14, 2022 11:02 AM (tfidB)

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Biden said he was okay with Putin going into Ukraine, as long as it was limited.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 14, 2022 11:05 AM (LvTSG)

28 Bill Clinton taught me one thing...if his mouth is moving...he's lying.
Posted by: BignJames at September 14, 2022 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

If it's only oral, it isn't immoral.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

29 Keep saying Sponge doesn't need help getting a first

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 14, 2022 11:06 AM (l/est)

30 Posted by: Forrest gump at September 14, 2022 11:02 AM (tfidB)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at September 14, 2022 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)

31 Crime is the norm and cops are at best unhelpful, so it's on you to man your own defenses. Vigilantism grows.

Transition from defense to offense.
Defending to hunting.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:06 AM (Yb26N)

32 Next up is "distrust, period" and then the transition from high trust to moderate trust to low trust to zero trust will be complete."

I'm at "distrust, period" for anyone I don't know personally, and for at least half of those that I do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2022 11:06 AM (trdmm)

33 Transition from defense to offense.
Defending to hunting.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:06 AM (Yb26N)
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Back when I played roleplaying games, I used to say that the best defense is a dead opponent.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 14, 2022 11:07 AM (YIVH2)

34 I'm at "distrust, period" for anyone I don't know personally, and for at least half of those that I do.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2022 11:06 AM (trdmm)

Yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 14, 2022 11:07 AM (Oa1Nr)

35 Joe, while I agree with most of what you said, I'm beginning to think most of our civilization and its philosophical underpinning would be wiped out in a few weeks of blackouts.

Just turn the power off and watch us revert to panicked animals and vicious predators. Not all, but enough that you won't be able to tell.

Posted by: Buddy at September 14, 2022 11:08 AM (FCbAQ)

36 I do enjoy the current spate of spats between trannies and lesbians.

I posted a tw@tter bitchfight between some BIPOC whatever/whoever and an Atlantic writer who suddenly is on the hotseat for not being enough of an "ally".

*BUT I HAVE A BLM SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE!!
HATE HAS NO HOME HERE!!"

Posted by: kallisto at September 14, 2022 11:08 AM (dCxaZ)

37 I'm at "distrust, period" for anyone I don't know personally, and for at least half of those that I do.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2022 11:06 AM (trdmm)
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I suspect you're ahead of the curve. Most people, I think (based on no empirical data but on my own experience, so grains of salt and whatnot), are on the threshold between "trust but verify" and "distrust unless verified" and bouncing between them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:08 AM (t0OGg)

38 Democracy!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 14, 2022 11:08 AM (w2Z7l)

39
The Great American Shell Game, as I call it. Our country is is just one big ol' hustle.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 14, 2022 11:08 AM (oINRc)

40 Are you saying diversity isn't a strenght?

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2022 11:08 AM (ppL7t)

41 The end of high-trust means an end to tourism. Do you trust the hotel staff? Do you trust the restaurant staff? Or the law enforcement, when you have an out-of-state license?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 14, 2022 11:09 AM (naEeR)

42 I wouldn't even truss an inguinal hernia these days.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 14, 2022 11:09 AM (kXYt5)

43 39
The Great American Shell Game, as I call it. Our country is is just one big ol' hustle.
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Open Borders Barter Town?

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2022 11:09 AM (ppL7t)

44 The nation's leaders as well as teachers
Practice lies as a way of life, yes they do
So think before you speak
'Cause what you sow you reap
The truth will always be brought to light

- Lies by En Vogue (1990)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVpWes8MFm4

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:09 AM (xMdtr)

45 Is this the mRna jab pivot I've been hearing about?

https://tinyurl.com/43k5cywr

Posted by: kallisto at September 14, 2022 11:10 AM (dCxaZ)

46 Long live King Sponge the First!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 14, 2022 11:10 AM (atmen)

47 Back when I played roleplaying games, I used to say that the best defense is a dead opponent.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I never understood "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer".

No. Keep your friends close and your enemies dead.

Dead enemies are no longer an issue.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:10 AM (Yb26N)

48 - Lies by En Vogue (1990) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVpWes8MFm4 Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:09 AM (xMdtr)

En Vogue was awesome.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

49 Oddly, I am taking an Ethics test for annual training. Yeah, Imma laughing.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2022 11:11 AM (ppL7t)

50 Joe, while I agree with most of what you said, I'm beginning to think most of our civilization and its philosophical underpinning would be wiped out in a few weeks of blackouts.

Just turn the power off and watch us revert to panicked animals and vicious predators. Not all, but enough that you won't be able to tell.

Posted by: Buddy at September 14, 2022 11:08 AM (FCbAQ)

It only took a few hours in that twilight zone episode.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2022 11:11 AM (VwHCD)

51 47 Back when I played roleplaying games, I used to say that the best defense is a dead opponent.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Dead Men Tell No Tales. Arrgh!

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2022 11:11 AM (ppL7t)

52
I heard being a building inspector in Pakistan is a good paying gig
Mostly tax free too

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at September 14, 2022 11:11 AM (xAAUL)

53 The end of high-trust means an end to tourism. Do you trust the hotel staff? Do you trust the restaurant staff? Or the law enforcement, when you have an out-of-state license?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 14, 2022 11:09 AM (naEeR)

Woman buys a sub sandwich, finds it has POO on it.

No. I don't trust the restaurant staff........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

54 It only took a few hours in that twilight zone episode.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2022 11:11 AM (VwHCD)
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The Monsters are Due on Maple Street. Great episode. And entirely possible, though I think it would take a *bit* more time than that absent lots of specific big threats.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:13 AM (t0OGg)

55 I've always had a range of trust. I trust when there was is consequences to a betrayal. I trust but verify when there may be consequences.. I distrust anything too good to be true . Overall I assume everyone will betray me.

Posted by: polynikes at September 14, 2022 11:13 AM (y60WL)

56 I see elsewhere that some are talking about the disastrously low ratings for the Emmy awards. I find that I have never even heard of any the shows that won so-called "awards". To me, it might as well be some tribe of cannibals in Borneo handing out best longpig-sticker feathers. Well wait, those guys would probably be a bit more talented.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2022 11:13 AM (trdmm)

57 Shut off EBT cards Mon. By Fri, there many smoldering ruins throughout the country.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 14, 2022 11:14 AM (Oa1Nr)

58 56 I see elsewhere that some are talking about the disastrously low ratings for the Emmy awards. I find that I have never even heard of any the shows that won so-called "awards". To me, it might as well be some tribe of cannibals in Borneo handing out best longpig-sticker feathers. Well wait, those guys would probably be a bit more talented.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2022 11:13 AM (trdmm)

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You think the Oscars are rewarding little-known entertainments that have no crossover appeal from the social justice art house to the mainstream?

Welcome to the Emmys.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 14, 2022 11:14 AM (LvTSG)

59 see elsewhere that some are talking about the disastrously low ratings for the Emmy awards. I find that I have never even heard of any the shows that won so-called "awards". To me, it might as well be some tribe of cannibals in Borneo handing out best longpig-sticker feathers. Well wait, those guys would probably be a bit more talented.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2022 11:13 AM (trdmm)
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Even when I watched contemporary entertainment, the awards shows didn't interest me. Now that I don't, they interest me even less. And maybe I'm missing out on good stuff, but Hollywood has been producing such dreck that I sort of doubt it. I don't consume their products, so why would I consume their industrial awards galas?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:15 AM (t0OGg)

60 Damn. Trust when NO consequences...

Posted by: polynikes at September 14, 2022 11:15 AM (y60WL)

61 Back when I played roleplaying games, I used to say that the best defense is a dead opponent.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

My motto for RPG's was always Weapons is life, ammo is life. I think Fallout 3 really reinforced that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2022 11:15 AM (VwHCD)

62 I see elsewhere that some are talking about the disastrously low ratings for the Emmy awards. I find that I have never even heard of any the shows that won so-called "awards".

Well, that's because you lack taste and refinement. Also, you resent being lectured about how evil you are.

Posted by: Your liberal betters at September 14, 2022 11:15 AM (ayzS/)

63 Amazing how fast the worm turns-Sponge is soaking up accolades and FIRSTs!, when just a week ago he was persona non grata, banished to the wilderness. What a country!

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at September 14, 2022 11:15 AM (PIlQh)

64 Woman buys a sub sandwich, finds it has POO on it.

*******

Christopher Robin hardest hit...

Posted by: Muldoon at September 14, 2022 11:15 AM (kXYt5)

65 Just turn the power off and watch us revert to panicked animals and vicious predators. Not all, but enough that you won't be able to tell.

Posted by: Buddy at September 14, 2022 11:08 AM (FCbAQ)

It only took a few hours in that twilight zone episode.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2022 11:11 AM (VwHCD)

As has been pointed out since the mid 19th century, no matter how far we "advance" society is never more than 9 meals away from anarchy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2022 11:15 AM (trdmm)

66
At any point in time civilization is 9 meals away from collapse

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at September 14, 2022 11:16 AM (xAAUL)

67 ~~Christopher Robin~~ Xi Jinping hardest hit...
Posted by: Muldoon at September 14, 2022 11:15 AM (kXYt5)
++++
FIFY

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:16 AM (t0OGg)

68 Excellent post as ever Joe (though, so far, no hard-bodied Asian bikini models, which would be nice).

I think the concept of trust has to include "respect" - as in, respect, or have reason to respect, the technical competence, seriousness, and responsibility of people who make up institutions/perform tasks.

So while I actually trust my doctor*, after one episode during The Great Idiocy, I don't see him as someone to rely on in a technical sense, sadly, for all medical issues. Of which, fortunately, I have about zero. He was thinking out loud/communicating when I entered his office and went through some routine like "let's see we've both had our shots so we don't need to wear a mask".

This was before it was clear the "vaccines" did not prevent transmission or infection, I think. But, of course, 70 years into research showing masks lacked benefit.

* guess he's "my doctor", have never really had one fortunately, he's the gatekeeper/primary, a good guy, we actually end up talking about other things more than the business at hand usually

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2022 11:16 AM (OTzUX)

69 To me, it might as well be some tribe of cannibals in Borneo handing out best longpig-sticker feathers. Well wait, those guys would probably be a bit more talented.
Posted by: Tom Servo

That was actually a great documentary!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:16 AM (Yb26N)

70 I see elsewhere that some are talking about the disastrously low ratings for the Emmy awards. I find that I have never even heard of any the shows that won so-called "awards".

People won't even watch their crappy shows, and they're surprised that people won't watch an even crappier awards show about their crappy shows.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:16 AM (ayzS/)

71 Berenson's lawyer's demand letter to Andy Slavitt, a demorat health policy embed, pimping all the jabs, all day, every day:

https://tinyurl.com/2tuawcyf

(Slavitt was at the White House meeting where Berenson's banning from the Tw@tts was discussed, and then slavitt further appears on national media claiming he don't know him no alex Berenson.)

Posted by: kallisto at September 14, 2022 11:16 AM (dCxaZ)

72 Trust no one.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2022 11:17 AM (A7urr)

73 I never dreamed Naomi Wolf would get red pilled. But she is red pilled, hard.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2022 11:17 AM (QSjkU)

74 I see elsewhere that some are talking about the disastrously low ratings for the Emmy awards. I find that I have never even heard of any the shows that won so-called "awards". To me, it might as well be some tribe of cannibals in Borneo handing out best longpig-sticker feathers. Well wait, those guys would probably be a bit more talented.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2022 11:13 AM (trdmm)

All I know about this years Emmys is that Jimmy Kimmel did something stupid and disrespectful.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)

75 70 People won't even watch their crappy shows, and they're surprised that people won't watch an even crappier awards show about their crappy shows.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:16 AM (ayzS/)

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Rewarding NCIS or something like that would be demeaning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 14, 2022 11:17 AM (LvTSG)

76 Leading a virtuous life is no longer a requirement when the social compact has been broken.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 14, 2022 11:17 AM (w2Z7l)

77 Shut off EBT cards Mon. By Fri, there many smoldering ruins throughout the country.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 14, 2022 11:14 AM (Oa1Nr)

You'll have smoldering ruins where there needs to be smoldering ruins.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2022 11:17 AM (VwHCD)

78 ~~Low~~ Zero Trust

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FIFM

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 14, 2022 11:18 AM (VlLnx)

79 Woman buys a sub sandwich, finds it has POO on it.

Christopher Robin hardest hit...
Posted by: Muldoon

Pooh is gonna miss Piglet, but he has to admit, that was one of the best damn ham sandwiches he's ever had.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:18 AM (Yb26N)

80 I never understood "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer".

No. Keep your friends close and your enemies dead.

Dead enemies are no longer an issue.
Posted by: rickb223

It's about enemies who are peers or stronger. Keeping them close while you gather strength and intelligence, lull them into complacency. Then when the time is right, come down on them like a ton of brick metaphors.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 14, 2022 11:18 AM (eFIuF)

81 Is everyone ready for the national rail strike on Friday?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:18 AM (lf83v)

82 40 Are you saying diversity isn't a strenght?
Posted by: Puddinhead
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This ^^^^.

A high-trust society can only flourish if the members of that society have shared aspirations and ethics. The beginning of hyphenated Americans and the elites' scorn for the concept of the melting pot started the downhill slide to the low-trust society.

Posted by: Furious George at September 14, 2022 11:19 AM (CkFy6)

83 I keep thinking the last 18 months have all been a bad dream and I'm going to wake up soon.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 14, 2022 11:19 AM (2h2Wy)

84 Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2022 11:17 AM (QSjkU)

In her forthcoming book, which is a continuation of the Life of her Vag, she will recount how "Pinky" met the wang of her dreams.

Posted by: kallisto at September 14, 2022 11:19 AM (dCxaZ)

85 Is everyone ready for the national rail strike on Friday?

The Biden administration pucker factor must be off the scale.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:19 AM (ayzS/)

86 Trust no one.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Some of us learned that lesson earlier than others.

This weekend, if the rail strike goes on, will be the beginning of school for many.

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:19 AM (xMdtr)

87 Shut off EBT cards Mon. By Fri, there many smoldering ruins throughout the country.
__________

It will kill the illegal narcotics business.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:19 AM (lf83v)

88 Those close to Hunter Biden think a second laptop, similar to the first one that spurred months of coverage and controversy, could be "out there" somewhere, according to a contributing editor for New York Magazine.

Andrew Rice appeared on CNN Monday to discuss his "months and months" of ongoing research into President Joe Biden's son's laptop. During that appearance, he was shown a clip of Hunter Biden being asked by a CNN reporter, "was that your laptop?" to which Biden answers, "for real, I don't know."

Posted by: SMOD at September 14, 2022 11:19 AM (RHGPo)

89 Trust no one.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

*********

Why should we trust this advice? Huh?

Posted by: Muldoon at September 14, 2022 11:19 AM (kXYt5)

90 Yup, I'm pretty low trust about any institution nowadays, even the military, which has always been my tribe.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at September 14, 2022 11:20 AM (XvPQV)

91 >>...and your enemies dead.

But first, beat any intel they may have out of them.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2022 11:20 AM (A7urr)

92 I talked some new Yankee neighbors into taking down their HHNHH sign. I told them that it offended me since it suggested that their neighbors were haters.

Hate may have no home there but smug holds the mortgage.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2022 11:20 AM (yQpMk)

93 Is everyone ready for the national rail strike on Friday?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:18 AM (lf83v)

Reagan showed how to deal with that shit.

It's a shit economy. The cost of doing business is higher than it's ever been. You want MORE MONEY? Fuck yourself. We ain't got time for dat shit.

Fire. Hire new.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

94 Is everyone ready for the national rail strike on Friday?

The Biden administration pucker factor must be off the scale.

Although it will be interesting to hear how it's all Trump's fault.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:20 AM (ayzS/)

95 And the "respect" thing of course, while already greatly damaged the last 15 years or so, has been battered pretty badly the last 5. For the country generally. The triple-whammy of C19, the racist-totalitarian street festival, and the election, of course, just about vaporized whatever was left.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2022 11:20 AM (OTzUX)

96 Excellent rant.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at September 14, 2022 11:20 AM (kouBO)

97 A high-trust society can only flourish if the members of that society have shared aspirations and ethics. The beginning of hyphenated Americans and the elites' scorn for the concept of the melting pot started the downhill slide to the low-trust society.

Posted by: Furious George at September 14, 2022 11:19 AM (CkFy6)

Those people w/hyphenated names as well.

Posted by: BignJames at September 14, 2022 11:21 AM (AwYPR)

98 The NYC blackout in the 70's would be a party compared to what would happen now,

Posted by: polynikes at September 14, 2022 11:21 AM (y60WL)

99 Look!

Naomi Wolf wants to teach you to f*ck just like her!

https://tinyurl.com/2v44akth

*link goes to goodreads*

Posted by: kallisto at September 14, 2022 11:21 AM (dCxaZ)

100 Some people I only trust after they're dead and cremated. You could say trust has to be urned!

Posted by: Muldoon at September 14, 2022 11:21 AM (kXYt5)

101 Is everyone ready for the national rail strike on Friday?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:18 AM (lf83v)

I need to go get some more canned meat.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2022 11:21 AM (yQpMk)

102 NPR has become Anti-Ultra-MAGA Central. Not even showing a pretense of objectivity.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 14, 2022 11:21 AM (peWy1)

103 Black markets will grow and thrive. Although people can be arbitrarily eliminated from the legal markets without cause, they still need to eat and wear clothes and so the black market will fill the void. It will fill that void at great expense and risk, but it will be effective.

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"And we're living here in Bartertown ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 14, 2022 11:22 AM (VlLnx)

104 I remember seeing a clip from a 2018 (I think) news story about how voting machines could be manipulated. They brought in 10 everyday people to just input a vote and keep track of their individual vote. Within minutes, a hacker had manipulated the results right in front of them.

One of the women who participated started tearing up. It was overwhelming to her to see how little agency she really had in a system that seems designed to enable this type of fraud.

This is how I feel about almost everything I believed throughout the bulk of my adult life. I've voted for W, knocked on doors for Romney, pulled a lever for McCain, and now realize I was just a dupe and always have been.

What will it take to regain my trust? Nothing. Which is fine because they don't really want it anyway. They just want my compliance.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 14, 2022 11:22 AM (KbCG3)

105 Although it will be interesting to hear how it's all Trump's fault.
Posted by: Archimedes

And climate change.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 14, 2022 11:22 AM (R8uWY)

106 >>>Is everyone ready for the national rail strike on Friday?

>Cadaver Joe is going to create good paying union jobs for 5 year apprentices. The next decade will be a decade of EV battery charger fires.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 14, 2022 11:22 AM (w2Z7l)

107 And the "respect" thing of course, while already greatly damaged the last 15 years or so, has been battered pretty badly the last 5. For the country generally. The triple-whammy of C19, the racist-totalitarian street festival, and the election, of course, just about vaporized whatever was left.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2022 11:20 AM (OTzUX)
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Respect is gone, and trust is tightly intertwined with it, as you mentioned. I don't trust someone I don't respect. Even if I don't like someone, if I trust his professional judgement then I'll be more inclined to trust his professional findings or opinions.

But respect is *earned,* not arbitrarily granted. And respect, like trust, is very hard to earn again once it has been lost or destroyed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:22 AM (t0OGg)

108 anyway, Naomi Wolf met a non-Leftoid man and that, my friends is how she got "red-pilled".

She even retired all her sex toys!

Posted by: kallisto at September 14, 2022 11:23 AM (dCxaZ)

109 The Biden administration pucker factor must be off the scale.
Posted by: Archimedes
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From what I've been reading, it's definitely off the scale.

Three unions are holding out for whateverver reason, and if they concede, well, we're gonna be paying a lot more for...everthing.
If they strike, the pain happens much faster.

So it's down to no strike=deep, long-lasting pain in the wallet, that eventually people will accept, or a strike, which will bring it all crashing down (if brandon doesn't send the Army in, like Truman did).

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:23 AM (xMdtr)

110
I need to go get some more canned meat.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2022 11:21 AM (yQpMk)

Oh my.

Posted by: George Takei at September 14, 2022 11:23 AM (N8avY)

111 I worked for Persians who came out of the Shah era once - a guy who had worked with them longer said that in our culture, we fail open - i.e., we automatically assume that a person is trustworthy until they prove themselves otherwise, and in their culture, they fail closed - they assume a person is untrustworthy until they prove themselves otherwise.

In an informer culture, failing closed is a safety item. Over the course of a dozen years we have become an informer culture. And we are learning to fail closed.

Posted by: blaster at September 14, 2022 11:23 AM (6TxNR)

112 Pfizer wants you to take know that their 'ordinary' flu shot that's mRNA as well is on the way... 58-second montage of athletes and one referee having heart attacks...

https://twitter.com/InvestingMerc/status/
1570058483495768068

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 14, 2022 11:24 AM (yikp0)

113 Is everyone ready for the national rail strike on Friday?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:18 AM (lf83v)

I'm ready to pull a train!!!!

Posted by: Pete Buttplug at September 14, 2022 11:24 AM (gmo/4)

114 NPR has become Anti-Ultra-MAGA Central. Not even showing a pretense of objectivity.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 14, 2022 11:21 AM (peWy1)

It's in their mission statement.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

115 I generally might be inclined to trust my grandmother, but I would require photo ID.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 14, 2022 11:24 AM (kXYt5)

116 Reagan fired the PATCO air controllers because it was against the law for them to strike.

In the case of the rail workers, Biden can't do that, but it will still be a nightmare.

Back in 1950, Truman issued an executive order putting the railways under the control of the Army.

Very volatile issue.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:24 AM (lf83v)

117 I'm kinda of slow...does First Bank of Stearns and Foster mean something?

Posted by: Mishdog at September 14, 2022 11:24 AM (uwW33)

118 Word to the wise, when you are forced to live off your food stash, make sure to lose plenty of weight like everyone else, just less. A fat guy in the Burning Time is suspicious.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2022 11:25 AM (yQpMk)

119 Reagan showed how to deal with that shit.

It's a s*** economy. The cost of doing business is higher than it's ever been. You want MORE MONEY? Fuck yourself. We ain't got time for dat shit.

Fire. Hire new.

Not the same thing, though.
1) PATCO employees were not allowed to strike. I don't think the same applies to railway employees.
2) There are a LOT more railway employees, so they'd be harder to replace in adequate numbers/
3) PATCO and other unions were not part of Reagan's voting bloc. The last thing Biden wants to do is torpedo a union action.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:25 AM (ayzS/)

120 Pity, the inescapable attentions of Bob at (youknowwhere) and the other feebs, is making it impossible to coordinate security measures. "Conspiracy", they'll call it, and lock our asses away, extra-judicially if they must.

It's going to come down to individual initiative, individual actions. Wizard of Id, "Lurking Lurker what Lurks by Night", will be our stock in trade.

Being out too late at night was fun to "get away with it" when we were teens. Now, we're being forced into it without alternatives, in our later years. Oh well, signing up for the "Pissed Off Geezers Brigade" wasn't in my retirement plans, but YOLO, right?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 14, 2022 11:25 AM (e6UQI)

121 Is everyone ready for the national rail strike on Friday?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:18 AM (lf83v)

I'm ready to pull a train!!!!

Posted by: Pete Buttplug at September 14, 2022 11:24 AM (gmo/4)

Sounds Sexy!!!!

Posted by: Pedo Joe at September 14, 2022 11:25 AM (gmo/4)

122 Very volatile issue.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
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Truman was somewhat competent.

Brandon, not so much.

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:25 AM (xMdtr)

123 Just Joe should put Hunter on the rail strike business. Buttigieg's word salad isn't going to help anything. Hunter knows how to get stuff done with unions - money, hookers, and blow, with 10% for the Big Guy.

Posted by: blaster at September 14, 2022 11:25 AM (6TxNR)

124 I want smoldering ruins!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 14, 2022 11:25 AM (Oa1Nr)

125 118 Word to the wise, when you are forced to live off your food stash, make sure to lose plenty of weight like everyone else, just less. A fat guy in the Burning Time is suspicious.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2022 11:25 AM (yQpMk)

And far too edible

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2022 11:26 AM (QSjkU)

126 There is also a reason why theft is theme of many of the Ten Commandments. As our transition to zero-trust kleptocracy continues, we will all also get a visceral reminder of why that is.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 14, 2022 11:26 AM (VlLnx)

127 But respect is *earned,* not arbitrarily granted. And respect, like trust, is very hard to earn again once it has been lost or destroyed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:22 AM (t0OGg)

Respect/trust may be over rated....fear on the other hand....

Posted by: BignJames at September 14, 2022 11:26 AM (AwYPR)

128 Pfizer wants you to take know that their 'ordinary' flu shot that's mRNA as well is on the way... 58-second montage of athletes and one referee having heart attacks...

https://twitter.com/InvestingMerc/status/
1570058483495768068
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 14, 2022 11:24 AM (yikp0)

That will be found to violate twatter's terms in 3......2......1......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

129 Those close to Hunter Biden think a second laptop, similar to the first one that spurred months of coverage and controversy, could be "out there" somewhere, according to a contributing editor for New York Magazine.
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Yabbut. This could be the disinformation. The actual laptop has now been admitted to be real, but they can still deflect from it and name call as conspiracy theorists if they can "debunk" a new laptop.

This is where the "trust no one" stuff gets fun, if you're Stan.

Posted by: Buddy at September 14, 2022 11:26 AM (FCbAQ)

130 Slightly drier weather here. Still hot, but humidity is noticeably lower. After my time in CO I laugh at what the "news" clones call "dry" weather -- but it's an improvement, as almost anything short of a hurricane would be.

I may change the wiper blades on the car today ahead of Saturday's "safety" inspection, and work out again tomorrow, to take advantage of the lower dampness.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 14, 2022 11:26 AM (J2vNu)

131 That mole removal ad is really distracting.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 14, 2022 11:26 AM (sI15f)

132 'Thou shalt not bear false witness' is the Commandment. Not 'don't lie'. "Santa Clause is coming" is a lie. "Just the tip, i promise!" Iis a lie. Bearing false witness is more sinister and destructive. False accusations for the intent purpose of harming the person is 'bearing false witness' and this is what the godless, heathen left is doing to Trump.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at September 14, 2022 11:27 AM (3Or4S)

133 In an informer culture, failing closed is a safety item. Over the course of a dozen years we have become an informer culture. And we are learning to fail closed.
Posted by: blaster at September 14, 2022 11:23 AM (6TxNR)
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Failing open is systemic, for now. That is changing.

For an example, I used to work for a credit card processing firm. They take the transaction, log and record it, hand it off to the network (Visa, etc.) for validation against the issuing bank, log the result, return the result to the terminal, all of the backend processing, etc.

When a connection to the network (like Visa) went down, the default behavior was to blindly approve. Most people aren't over the limit and most transactions aren't fraud, so blind approval was an acceptable risk. Fraud or limit violations would be arbitrated later.

As that kind of thing changes, those processes and systems become more brittle because they can no longer assume trust to overcome faults.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:27 AM (t0OGg)

134 I want smoldering ruins!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 14, 2022 11:25 AM (Oa1Nr)

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Make Smiting Great Again!

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 14, 2022 11:27 AM (VlLnx)

135 Being out too late at night was fun to "get away with it" when we were teens. Now, we're being forced into it without alternatives, in our later years. Oh well, signing up for the "Pissed Off Geezers Brigade" wasn't in my retirement plans, but YOLO, right?

Jim
___

lol

Yeah, I'm none too happy about it myself.

It seems I have little choice in the matter.

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:27 AM (xMdtr)

136 I heard the Upper East Side in Manhattan has plenty of food, liquor, and rich peeps.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2022 11:28 AM (A7urr)

137 Friday morning I take Stirling the Evil Black Kitten of War and Pestilence to the vet to be snipped. He's grown so much since his July visit, I expect them to say, "Are you sure this is the same kitten?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 14, 2022 11:28 AM (J2vNu)

138 False accusations for the intent purpose of harming the person is 'bearing false witness' and this is what the godless, heathen left is doing to Trump.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid
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Yep

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:28 AM (xMdtr)

139 A fat guy in the Burning Time is suspicious.
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And delicious.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 14, 2022 11:28 AM (yikp0)

140 101 Is everyone ready for the national rail strike on Friday?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:18 AM (lf83v)

It better happen, or else I'm gonna be real disappointed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2022 11:28 AM (trdmm)

141 There's a fat man, on the ottoman, with the blues..

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2022 11:29 AM (yQpMk)

142 I'm kinda of slow...does First Bank of Stearns and Foster mean something?
Posted by: Mishdog at September 14, 2022 11:24 AM (uwW33)

Stuffing cash in the matress

Posted by: Buddy at September 14, 2022 11:29 AM (FCbAQ)

143 Back in 1950, Truman issued an executive order putting the railways under the control of the Army.

Very volatile issue.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:24 AM (lf83v)

I know some fellas that work for Buffetts choo choos. A lot of those guys are national guard. What would happen if they got mobilized to take over the railroads...question on their minds.

Posted by: Mishdog at September 14, 2022 11:29 AM (uwW33)

144 >> NPR has become Anti-Ultra-MAGA Central. Not even showing a pretense of objectivity.

They havev never even so much as nodded towards objectivity.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2022 11:30 AM (L14qM)

145 'Thou shalt not bear false witness' is the Commandment. Not 'don't lie'. "Santa Clause is coming" is a lie. "Just the tip, i promise!" Iis a lie. Bearing false witness is more sinister and destructive. False accusations for the intent purpose of harming the person is 'bearing false witness' and this is what the godless, heathen left is doing to Trump.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at September 14, 2022 11:27 AM (3Or4S)
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Yes, it is. I have a fairly liberal interpretation of that commandment, and I view it as a demand for general honesty. But even taken literally, false accusations, specifically, are one of the most damaging forms of deceit and its specific prohibition makes a lot of sense. It's also the core of a lot of our problems at the moment. False accusations abound in all things.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:30 AM (t0OGg)

146 Cross-dressing is a sin because the Bible teaches us "You shall not bear falsies against your neighbor."

Posted by: Archie Bunker at September 14, 2022 11:30 AM (lf83v)

147 NPR is literally State Media.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2022 11:30 AM (yQpMk)

148 Look, jack. Anyone can drive a train. Just fire it up and hit the gas. It is on rails, so you ain't gotta steer it!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 14, 2022 11:30 AM (R8uWY)

149 I find your lack of faith distracting.

Posted by: Darth Mole-r at September 14, 2022 11:31 AM (yikp0)

150 I was looking forward to hunting, fishing, gardening and farming with some lite machinist work in my golden years. Fighting a damn civil war was not in my plans.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2022 11:31 AM (QSjkU)

151 I'm kinda of slow...does First Bank of Stearns and Foster mean something?
Posted by: Mishdog at September 14, 2022 11:24 AM (uwW33)
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Stearns and Foster is a mattress manufacturer. It just means "stashing your money under your bed." Akin to the "First National Sock" and other tongue-in-cheek descriptions.

Apologies if that failed to land. I went with "First Bank of Sealy" in the first draft, but I thought "Stearns & Foster" rolled off the tongue better.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:31 AM (t0OGg)

152 Woman buys a sub sandwich, finds it has POO on it.

No. I don't trust the restaurant staff........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

That's a delicacy around these parts. My wife loves that shit...

Posted by: Beto O'Rourke at September 14, 2022 11:31 AM (BgMrQ)

153 NPR is awful. It's creepy people with terrible voices reading articles. It's like a job program for shut-ins and cat ladies.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 14, 2022 11:32 AM (Y5qcH)

154 That mole removal ad is really distracting.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 14, 2022 11:26 AM (sI15f)

Heh, yes it is.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 14, 2022 11:32 AM (DRSnL)

155 I was looking forward to hunting, fishing, gardening and farming with some lite machinist work in my golden years. Fighting a damn civil war was not in my plans.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2022 11:31 AM (QSjkU)

Me either. On the bright side, I probably won't survive the first skirmish.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2022 11:32 AM (yQpMk)

156 I find myself mostly confused these days. In the last 5 years, here are things I find myself saying that my younger self would not have:

I don't trust big corporations, they oppress society
I don't believe in foreign wars, they serve the MIC
America's foreign conflicts are due to our robbing and exploiting of resources from other countries
The vaxxine causes health problems
My skin color faces systemic oppression

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 14, 2022 11:32 AM (8dkFO)

157 50 Joe, while I agree with most of what you said, I'm beginning to think most of our civilization and its philosophical underpinning would be wiped out in a few weeks of blackouts.

Just turn the power off and watch us revert to panicked animals and vicious predators. Not all, but enough that you won't be able to tell.

Posted by: Buddy at September 14, 2022 11:08 AM (FCbAQ)

It only took a few hours in that twilight zone episode.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2022 11:11 AM (VwHCD

See Nightfall, Asimov

Posted by: Fox2! at September 14, 2022 11:32 AM (qyH+l)

158
The price on the shelf isn't the price the computer rings up.

I've run into that sometimes in the past but it's happening a lot now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 14, 2022 11:32 AM (63Dwl)

159 I know some fellas that work for Buffetts choo choos. A lot of those guys are national guard. What would happen if they got mobilized to take over the railroads...question on their minds.
Posted by: Mishdog
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We had to guard part of a rail hub in northern Iraq that lead to a refinery. That thing was a nightmare to protect.

Then again, it was near Tikrit, Saddam's hometown.

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:32 AM (xMdtr)

160 ikp0)

140 101 Is everyone ready for the national rail strike on Friday?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:18 AM (lf83v)

Supposedly, Mr Mudpants called for a 60 day "cooling off period" to get everyone back at the table. Who the fuck knows, though. 60 days will be up after the "election".

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 14, 2022 11:32 AM (Oa1Nr)

161 It is better if you don't fight. The guards don't want to keep us here any more than we want to be here. Don't hassle them. They are just doing their jobs.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 14, 2022 11:32 AM (R8uWY)

162 NPR is awful. It's creepy people with terrible voices reading articles. It's like a job program for shut-ins and cat ladies.
_________

And male feminists.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:33 AM (lf83v)

163 Reagan fired the PATCO air controllers because it was against the law for them to strike.

In the case of the rail workers, Biden can't do that, but it will still be a nightmare.

Back in 1950, Truman issued an executive order putting the railways under the control of the Army.

Very volatile issue.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Rail is a national defense issue.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:33 AM (Yb26N)

164 Congressman Tim Ryan (D-olt) says:
“We have to kill and confront [the MAGA] movement,” Ryan told host Willie Geist, adding that only “normal mainstream Republicans” are worth working with. He said this moments after (laughably) proclaiming that he’s “one of the most bipartisan members of Congress” and insisting, “I want to work across the aisle.”

I can't wait to hear how this is not divisive and a call to violence. I'm sure he'll say he wants to kill the MAGA movement, but not the actual people. Sorry, dude, the people ARE the movement.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:33 AM (ayzS/)

165 Personally, I'm already in the zero trust phase.

Posted by: Biergood at September 14, 2022 11:33 AM (FQWHA)

166 It only took a few hours in that twilight zone episode.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2022 11:11 AM (VwHCD
__

Read One Second After.

Youngest daughter is reading it, and to say she's shook is an understatement.

She's much more into prepping now.

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:34 AM (xMdtr)

167 164 I can't wait to hear how this is not divisive and a call to violence. I'm sure he'll say he wants to kill the MAGA movement, but not the actual people. Sorry, dude, the people ARE the movement.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:33 AM (ayzS/)

=========

"We have to kill and confront antifa."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 14, 2022 11:34 AM (LvTSG)

168 Supposedly, Mr Mudpants called for a 60 day "cooling off period" to get everyone back at the table. Who the fuck knows, though. 60 days will be up after the "election".
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

According to the news, the 60 days is up on Friday.
Hence the strike possibility.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:34 AM (Yb26N)

169 Muldoon, you are having an excellent day. Thank you.

Posted by: French Jeton at September 14, 2022 11:34 AM (Eauxv)

170 >>Woman buys a sub sandwich, finds it has POO on it.

And. That's when the killing started, your honor.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2022 11:34 AM (L14qM)

171 Supposedly, Mr Mudpants called for a 60 day "cooling off period" to get everyone back at the table. Who the f*** knows, though. 60 days will be up after the "election".

What a coincidence.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:34 AM (ayzS/)

172 160 140 101 Is everyone ready for the national rail strike on Friday?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:18 AM (lf83v)

Supposedly, Mr Mudpants called for a 60 day "cooling off period" to get everyone back at the table. Who the fuck knows, though. 60 days will be up after the "election".

i was under the impression that friday was the end of the cooling off period, thus the impending strike.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 14, 2022 11:35 AM (sGtp+)

173 I can't wait to hear how this is not divisive and a call to violence. I'm sure he'll say he wants to kill the MAGA movement, but not the actual people. Sorry, dude, the people ARE the movement.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:33 AM (ayzS/)

=========

"We have to kill and confront antifa."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Newsletter please.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:35 AM (Yb26N)

174 From now on, just consider everything coming out of Joe Biden's mouth to be 'bearing false witness.'

He is a windup machine with a microphone.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 14, 2022 11:35 AM (w2Z7l)

175 I saw Smoldering Ruins open for Caesar and Cleo at the Hollywood Bowl in '65.

Posted by: Quinn Martin (Irwin Cohn) at September 14, 2022 11:35 AM (PIlQh)

176 Nancy Pelosi channels her inner Jeb Bush, reminds crowd "that's an applause line" when no one claps.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)

177 Rail is a national defense issue.
Posted by: rickb223
___

Yep.

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:35 AM (xMdtr)

178 Haven't heard 10 seconds of NPR in ..... 10 years? Very little prior to that. Literally cannot even imagine what dumbed-down propaganda it must be now.

And it appears to play a key role in the ecosystem for the Coastal Clueless, "educated" non-stupid people who, when it comes to public policy, are as helpless as hamsters. Several people in my occasional/extended family circle, perfect CC members, who literally will start half of their statements with "I hear on NPR this morning .....".

Of course 95% of all other "news" is also garbage, an Idiot Marinade for the sadly dumbed-down populace. But NPR appears to be the choice for those who actually (without any reason) consider themselves somehow sophisticated. It's astonishing and sickening.

Last time I was on their air, the host told his producer "no calls". I'm 96% certain it was because his largely stupid listener base would call in their idiotic delusions and get disemboweled in response.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2022 11:35 AM (OTzUX)

179 The people applauding the lawlessness of the FBI have no reason to trust that the FBI won't turn against them sometime. They've established that they have no honor.

It's kinda like the woman who married the man who cheated on his wife to be with her.
He's a cheater. Unless proven otherwise he will cheat again.

The FBI is dishonorable.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 14, 2022 11:35 AM (eGTCV)

180 Me either. On the bright side, I probably won't survive the first skirmish.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

I'm confident that you will vigorously defend our way of life, even if it kills you.

Or anyone else, for that matter.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 14, 2022 11:36 AM (eFIuF)

181 >>"We have to kill and confront antifa."

Be nice to see ANTIFA rooted out of the University System.

Near 100% of them are organised through and supported by Universities.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2022 11:36 AM (L14qM)

182 Woman buys a sub sandwich, finds it has POO on it.

No. I don't trust the restaurant staff........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)
_____________

If the civil war begins, I fear that Antifa and their ilk will poison people from affluent neighborhoods with fentanyl at restaurants and grocery stores.

And, no, I am not giving them that idea. I am sure the bastards have already thought about it. See the Tylenol poisonings, which the FBI never solved.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 14, 2022 11:36 AM (lf83v)

183 Look, jack. Anyone can drive a train. Just fire it up and hit the gas. It is on rails, so you ain't gotta steer it!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 14, 2022 11:30 AM (R8uWY)

Right? Almost as simple as farming.

Posted by: Mayor Bloomberg at September 14, 2022 11:36 AM (FCbAQ)

184 I always found NPR to be the most boring thing on the radio. Slow and monotonal. Better than NyQuil for putting one to sleep.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 14, 2022 11:36 AM (atmen)

185 hmm. i'm seeing rumors there may a second hunter biden laptop out there somewhere. is the guy who wrote hitler's diary available?

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 14, 2022 11:37 AM (sGtp+)

186 Read One Second After.

Youngest daughter is reading it, and to say she's shook is an understatement.

She's much more into prepping now.
Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:34 AM (xMdtr)

That book actually kinda depressed me, because it made me feel like no matter how prepared I think I am, it won't be enough.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 14, 2022 11:37 AM (DRSnL)

187 China says it will work with Russia to create new international order

what could go wrong?

Posted by: DB at September 14, 2022 11:37 AM (geLO8)

188 this is the tw@tter fight between the BIPOC and the Atlantic writer who

https://tinyurl.com/2v8ffevu

Seems to be about racism and retaliation at the Guggenheim Museum...

lolol

UES is a Ground Zero for AWFLs, but I guess they too, are rayciss

Posted by: kallisto at September 14, 2022 11:37 AM (dCxaZ)

189 Better than NyQuil for putting one to sleep.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
___

Nyquil is less toxic.

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:37 AM (xMdtr)

190 What would the world do without organized labor?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2022 11:37 AM (A7urr)

191 So the army could take over the rail lines? Somehow I don’t find that comforting.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2022 11:38 AM (u73oe)

192 Girl928 believes what the whispery voices of NPR tell her.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2022 11:38 AM (yQpMk)

193 Being out too late at night was fun to "get away with it" when we were teens. Now, we're being forced into it without alternatives, in our later years. Oh well, signing up for the "Pissed Off Geezers Brigade" wasn't in my retirement plans, but YOLO, right?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 14, 2022 11:25 AM (e6UQI)

Puts a dent in my plans. I figured by the time I got up there in age I would be in a viking metal band called Oldenbald. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2022 11:38 AM (VwHCD)

194 China says it will work with Russia to create new international order

what could go wrong?

I wonder who will be #1 in that relationship?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:38 AM (ayzS/)

195 I always found NPR to be the most boring thing on the radio. Slow and monotonal. Better than NyQuil for putting one to sleep.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 14, 2022 11:36 AM (atmen)
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I would not want to listen to NPR while I'm falling asleep. It's probably chock full of subliminal programming to convert you to a Leftist while you are dreaming...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 14, 2022 11:38 AM (YIVH2)

196
Apologies if that failed to land. I went with "First Bank of Sealy" in the first draft, but I thought "Stearns & Foster" rolled off the tongue better.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

First Bank of My Pillow

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 14, 2022 11:39 AM (63Dwl)

197 Thanks Joe and Buddy! Like I said a little slow...

Posted by: Mishdog at September 14, 2022 11:39 AM (XKNuX)

198 That book actually kinda depressed me, because it made me feel like no matter how prepared I think I am, it won't be enough.
Posted by: Jordan61
___

Without Jesus, yes it is.

But since those in Christ will reside with Him for all eternity, what happens to this old, evil world means little when He's going to Build Back Better.

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:39 AM (xMdtr)

199 >>Girl928 believes what the whispery voices of NPR tell her.

I used to be one of those whispering voices back in my college days.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2022 11:39 AM (L14qM)

200
Puts a dent in my plans. I figured by the time I got up there in age I would be in a viking metal band called Oldenbald. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2022 11:38 AM (VwHCD)

There was a Norwegian death metal band that used a skeleton as a stage prop/decoration.

That was all well and good until someone discovered that it was their bass player that had disappeared several months before.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

201 College is a Communist Cult. Girl928 was level headed until she went off to the university.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2022 11:39 AM (yQpMk)

202 Naomi Wolf just needs to have a conversation with her c*nt, i.e. someone/thing that might actually care.

Posted by: Roy at September 14, 2022 11:40 AM (Ti+Tv)

203 Fortunately my trust in Him is on a solid foundation, as opposed to the shifting sands of man's will.

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:40 AM (xMdtr)

204 Is Dave in FL. Here ? Is Vance really behind Ryan in Ohio ?

Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2022 11:40 AM (bs+z0)

205 Commentary on Masking in Germany.

from www.eugyppius.com

https://tinyurl.com/328nxpje

Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2022 11:40 AM (xhaym)

206 So the army could take over the rail lines? Somehow I don’t find that comforting.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Run by Seabees or Army Corps of Engineers.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:40 AM (Yb26N)

207 Apologies if that failed to land. I went with "First Bank of Sealy" in the first draft, but I thought "Stearns & Foster" rolled off the tongue better.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

First Bank of My Pillow
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. a

Coffee Can Trust

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2022 11:41 AM (A7urr)

208 Girls can do anything boys can do; girls can do anything boys can do, better; girls and boys is arbitrary; boys are girls.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 14, 2022 11:41 AM (DPTAy)

209 College is a Communist Cult. Girl928 was level headed until she went off to the university.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
___

Neither of mine went.

One decided to go the motherhood route, the other a tradeschool.

Both still have their minds intact, for the most part.

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:41 AM (xMdtr)

210 There was a Norwegian death metal band that used a skeleton as a stage prop/decoration.

That was all well and good until someone discovered that it was their bass player that had disappeared several months before.
Posted by: Sponge

I thought the Weegies were all for recycling?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:41 AM (Yb26N)

211 If there is a strike, I think it will be short. Management will cave, right on cue, everything will cost more, which is happening anyway...

Posted by: gourmand du jour on shaky ground at September 14, 2022 11:41 AM (jTmQV)

212
First Bank of My Pillow
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 14, 2022 11:39 AM (63Dwl)

That gives me an idea......

Posted by: David Hogg at September 14, 2022 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)

213 194 "China says it will work with Russia to create new international order

what could go wrong?"

I wonder who will be #1 in that relationship?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:38 AM (ayzS/)

China. Which is why it's unfortunate we weren't able to triangulate with Russia against China.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 14, 2022 11:42 AM (b2nrj)

214 171 Supposedly, Mr Mudpants called for a 60 day "cooling off period" to get everyone back at the table. Who the f*** knows, though. 60 days will be up after the "election".

What a coincidence.
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What table and who is everybody?

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2022 11:42 AM (ppL7t)

215 Is Vance really behind Ryan in Ohio ?

The gist of the article from which I took the quote above is that Ryan is desperate, so that's why he's resorting to insane rhetoric. Bad move.

https://tinyurl.com/2kufa6we

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:42 AM (ayzS/)

216
I thought the Weegies were all for recycling?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:41 AM (Yb26N)

They are, but murder is reserved for the womb.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)

217 I used to be one of those whispering voices back in my college days.
Posted by: garrett
___

Why doesn't this surprise me?

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:42 AM (xMdtr)

218 Neither of mine went.

One decided to go the motherhood route, the other a tradeschool.

Both still have their minds intact, for the most part.
Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:41 AM (xMdtr)

Son went for a year and didn't like it. He much prefers working outside and with his hands.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 14, 2022 11:43 AM (DRSnL)

219 This busty bikini brunette has been in enough bars that she's learned to trust no one but herself:
https://is.gd/0T2epJ

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:43 AM (t0OGg)

220 >>College is a Communist Cult. Girl928 was level headed until she went off to the university.

Depending on how much of reality she has to experience after graduation, she will likely correct herself.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2022 11:43 AM (L14qM)

221 I wonder who will be #1 in that relationship?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:38 AM (ayzS/)

China. Which is why it's unfortunate we weren't able to triangulate with Russia against China.

I was being facetious. China will absolutely be #1, at least until there's a nuclear exchange between them.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:43 AM (ayzS/)

222 Washington DC is built on a throne of lies.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 14, 2022 11:43 AM (YScEb)

223 >>>So the army could take over the rail lines? Somehow I don’t find that comforting.

>They'll be as skilled at running freight trains as they were at running the supply chain with 18 wheelers or administering COVID vaccines and boosters.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 14, 2022 11:44 AM (w2Z7l)

224 Why would the FIB take the My pillow guys phone ? I know he's annoying, but this seems a bit much

Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2022 11:44 AM (bs+z0)

225 You don't get to call for a cooling off period when you are the one leading the putsch and knocking people's heads in.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 14, 2022 11:44 AM (iXo85)

226 China. Which is why it's unfortunate we weren't able to triangulate with Russia against China.
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Bill Clinton was the one that segregated Ukraine from Russia during the Yeltsin looting party. Bill knows how to manufacture a grift center and full employment for the CIA.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2022 11:44 AM (ppL7t)

227 Why would the FIB take the My pillow guys phone ? I know he's annoying, but this seems a bit much
Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2022 11:44 AM (bs+z0)

He supports Trump. Period.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)

228 OH keeps re electing Sherrod. They are monsters who are capable of anything.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (R8uWY)

229 He supports Trump. Period.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)
___

This^

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (LClE5)

230 They'll be as skilled at running freight trains as they were at running the supply chain with 18 wheelers or administering COVID vaccines and boosters.

Well, there's always the Navy guys. They never hit anything.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (ayzS/)

231 Germany is talking about nationalizing their energy companies.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (UuD2k)

232 I imagine a rail strike would be an excellent excuse for the junta to nationalize the railroads. It's been done before.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (BdMk6)

233 228 OH keeps re electing Sherrod. They are monsters who are capable of anything.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (R8uWY

I forgot about that puke

Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (bs+z0)

234 What table and who is everybody?
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2022 11:42 AM (ppL7t)

RR companies and various labor unions (Teamsters being a big one)

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (Oa1Nr)

235 See Nightfall, Asimov

Posted by: Fox2! at September 14, 2022 11:32 AM (qyH+l)

Festival!!!

Posted by: Archer at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (gmo/4)

236 158 The price on the shelf isn't the price the computer rings up.

I've run into that sometimes in the past but it's happening a lot now.

usually it just means that diode d-14 needs to be replaced.

Posted by: future cop at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (sGtp+)

237 >>219 This busty bikini brunette has been in enough bars that she's learned to trust no one but herself:
https://is.gd/0T2epJ
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Is that a mole on her lower abdomen or a bullseye?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2022 11:46 AM (A7urr)

238 Excellent.

Posted by: Marcus Gravey at September 14, 2022 11:46 AM (GK0XW)

239 There was a Norwegian death metal band that used a skeleton as a stage prop/decoration.

That was all well and good until someone discovered that it was their bass player that had disappeared several months before.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

Those Norwegian black metal bands are in a league of their own, I'll say that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2022 11:46 AM (VwHCD)

240 150 I was looking forward to hunting, fishing, gardening and farming with some lite machinist work in my golden years. Fighting a damn civil war was not in my plans.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2022 11:31 AM (QSjkU)

for generations, my family has told the story of an old Scots ancestor of ours, who came to America in the mid 1700's after he was cheated out of all of his lands in the home country. He and both his sons volunteered to go fight with Washington in the American Revolution, even though he was approaching 80 years of age at the time. Everyone he met asked him what a man of his years was doing out there, and he always replied "I've waited me whole life for the chance to kill Englishmen, I'm not gonna let a foolish thing like me age stop me now!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2022 11:46 AM (trdmm)

241 I'm still waiting for Joe's Wehrmacht to stock the shelves with baby formula.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 14, 2022 11:46 AM (w2Z7l)

242 Lotsa interesting interactions lately. Didn't expect Alex Jones to be a guest on Steven Crowder's podcast/show.

Posted by: Catherine at September 14, 2022 11:46 AM (ZSsrh)

243 This busty bikini brunette has been in enough bars that she's learned to trust no one but herself:
https://is.gd/0T2epJ
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:43 AM (t0OGg)

and yet she still ends up in a bedroom taking nearly-nudes! Lots to learn.

*I half expected a picture of Lauren Boebert at her place*

Posted by: Buddy at September 14, 2022 11:46 AM (FCbAQ)

244 Why would the FIB take the My pillow guys phone ? I know he's annoying, but this seems a bit much
Posted by: It's me donna

They are trying to make the price of supporting trump high. Don't even think about it or you are next. And nobody says shit about it because they are just going after the extremists, anyway.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 14, 2022 11:46 AM (R8uWY)

245 >>219 This busty bikini brunette has been in enough bars that she's learned to trust no one but herself:
https://is.gd/0T2epJ
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

She shouldn't trust that bikini top.

Posted by: Roy at September 14, 2022 11:47 AM (Ti+Tv)

246 So the army could take over the rail lines? Somehow I don’t find that comforting.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Run by Seabees or Army Corps of Engineers.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:40 AM (Yb26N)

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They'll outsource it to the armies of Pantyfa, BLM, MS-13, and the Mexican Cartels.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 14, 2022 11:47 AM (VlLnx)

247 Biden: "Were-macht?"

Fetterwoman: "There macht."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 14, 2022 11:47 AM (iXo85)

248 They'll outsource it to the armies of Pantyfa, BLM, MS-13, and the Mexican Cartels.
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 14, 2022 11:47 AM (VlLnx)
++++
The cartels could probably run a railroad with a bit of training. They already run major trucking and logistics operations. The amount of freight "shrinkage" would be extremely high and costs would skyrocket, but I bet the trains would run...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:48 AM (t0OGg)

249 The price on the shelf isn't the price the computer rings up.

I've run into that sometimes in the past but it's happening a lot now.

Order online. Pay online. Get to the store and find out they are out of stock. And not just recently.

Fucking pissed me off Lowe's. Really weak shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2022 11:48 AM (Yb26N)

250 >>Why would the FIB take the My pillow guys phone ? I know he's annoying, but this seems a bit much

I seem to recall he put out a video about the voter fraud after the 2020 election. He was one of the biggest people talking about (and documenting?) all of the voter fraud.
For this, he MUST be destroyed.

Posted by: Paul Bunyan at September 14, 2022 11:48 AM (I/doM)

251 >>She shouldn't trust that bikini top.

She got a fivehead.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2022 11:48 AM (L14qM)

252 I was being facetious. China will absolutely be #1, at least until there's a nuclear exchange between them.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:43 AM (ayzS/)

I don't know.

Russia and China are much more pragmatic than Western society. Both have built/rebuilt empires by using the West's insatiable greed against it. They are nationalist states, willing to set aside ideological differences for practical gain, all the while positioning themselves as indispensable to their foes.

The West depends almost entirely on China for manufacturing. Most of Europe and Africa depends entirely on Russia for energy and food. When famine hits Africa, the mass migration will finish off Europe with no missiles necessary.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 14, 2022 11:49 AM (8dkFO)

253 That book actually kinda depressed me, because it made me feel like no matter how prepared I think I am, it won't be enough.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 14, 2022 11:37 AM (DRSnL)

That is exactly correct. You won't be. Nobody will be.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2022 11:49 AM (QSjkU)

254 I need to get my paycheck at noon so that I can run down and buy some bread before the price goes up again.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 14, 2022 11:49 AM (R8uWY)

255 The root cause of vanishing trust IMO: The media…. The media has been lying for decades; the lies have become more overt (thank you PDJT). If the media magically started to tell the truth and be neutral purveyors of facts, trust might start to return. If they don’t stop lying (I I can’t imagine they’ll stop lying) trust will continue to degrade.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 14, 2022 11:49 AM (aZEbd)

256 There something called the "Railway Labor Act." Mostly has to do with labor relations, mediation... that sort of shit. But I believe it's implied the feds can step in to avert a general strike.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2022 11:50 AM (BFigT)

257 Drive to the port of long beach.

Bust open a container.

Get your crap.

Profit!

Posted by: Archer at September 14, 2022 11:50 AM (gmo/4)

258 This busty bikini brunette has been in enough bars that she's learned to trust no one but herself:
https://is.gd/0T2epJ
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Is that a mole on her lower abdomen or a bullseye?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2022 11:46 AM (A7urr)

I can't bring my eyes to look that low for some reason.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2022 11:50 AM (VwHCD)

259 When famine hits Africa, the mass migration will finish off Europe with no missiles necessary.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
___

Already hitting.

Somalia especially.

Posted by: SMH at September 14, 2022 11:50 AM (LClE5)

260 231 Germany is talking about nationalizing their energy companies.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 14, 2022 11:45 AM (UuD2k)

And they're going to find out, to their surprise, that shuffling the paperwork as to who owns what won't create a single molecule of additional heat this winter.

Energy - you've either got it, and that takes good planning far in advance - or you don't. And when you don't, you freeze.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2022 11:50 AM (trdmm)

261 >> Lotsa interesting interactions lately. Didn't expect Alex Jones to be a guest on Steven Crowder's podcast/show.

He had the top-selling book last week, despite the NYT finessing the book sales numbers to not admit that.

The book is about the Great Reset, which is a total conspiracy theory, you guys.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2022 11:50 AM (I/doM)

262 Papa Joe, can you make the trains run on time?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 14, 2022 11:50 AM (R8uWY)

263 There something called the "Railway Labor Act." Mostly has to do with labor relations, mediation... that sort of shit. But I believe it's implied the feds can step in to avert a general strike.

They can, but there will be a very steep political price to pay.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:51 AM (ayzS/)

264
She got a fivehead.
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2022 11:48 AM (L14qM)

That's erosion.

Posted by: Buddy at September 14, 2022 11:51 AM (FCbAQ)

265 256 There something called the "Railway Labor Act." Mostly has to do with labor relations, mediation... that sort of shit. But I believe it's implied the feds can step in to avert a general strike.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2022 11:50 AM (BFigT)

=========

"Oh, it was legal to break up the strike? Okay, we're fine with that."
-Labor Leaders who were due to make a whole lot more

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 14, 2022 11:51 AM (LvTSG)

266 254 I need to get my paycheck at noon so that I can run down and buy some bread before the price goes up again.

you're gonna need a bigger wheelbarrow

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 14, 2022 11:52 AM (sGtp+)

267 I can't bring my eyes to look that low for some reason.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 14, 2022 11:50 AM (VwHCD)
++++
:: sighs ::
:: kicks dirt ::

Posted by: That dude from "The Crying Game" at September 14, 2022 11:52 AM (t0OGg)

268 Good stuff, Mannix.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 14, 2022 11:52 AM (yHsuS)

269
Is that a mole on her lower abdomen or a bullseye?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2022 11:46 AM (A7urr)

Landing point.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:52 AM (Zz0t1)

270 I note that my Savings interest rate has increased. It's up to a whole .70%. Woo Hoo !!

Posted by: polynikes at September 14, 2022 11:52 AM (9pcIx)

271 The root cause of vanishing trust IMO: The media…. The media has been lying for decades;
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Media has always been an extortion/protection racket. It worked when we had lots of independent media competing. We no longer have a competitive media or any objective standard of what is reporting. Remember, News is what your editor tells you it is unless he is informed otherwise by the owner.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2022 11:52 AM (ppL7t)

272 >>They can, but there will be a very steep political price to pay.

Really?

Like what. The Unions suddenly start supporting Republicans?

I doubt it.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2022 11:52 AM (L14qM)

273 We took a tour a few years ago of BNSF's Network Op Center in Ft. Worth, it was like NASA mission control. If inexperienced people take that over, it will make Gomez Adams train wrecks look like a walk in the park.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2022 11:53 AM (A7urr)

274 [snip]

Everyone he met asked him what a man of his years was doing out there, and he always replied "I've waited me whole life for the chance to kill Englishmen, I'm not gonna let a foolish thing like me age stop me now!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2022 11:46 AM (trdmm)

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Since high school, I've literally been saying the same thing -- except about killing Commies. And that does seem to be all I have to look forward to now in my golden years ....

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 14, 2022 11:53 AM (VlLnx)

275 It's a shit economy. The cost of doing business is higher than it's ever been. You want MORE MONEY? Fuck yourself. We ain't got time for dat shit.

Fire. Hire new.

Good luck with that, when they are unable to fill their hire needs now.

Posted by: AK at work at September 14, 2022 11:53 AM (o+IHV)

276 I still have community. I am more cognizant of who is part of my community. As the thread of society unravels, the importance of those communities grows. As for trust, it is my job first, to not be the fool. What is evolving,and not for the better, is my reactions to those who violate my trust.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 14, 2022 11:54 AM (jGuoF)

277 240 Sounds a little like Samuel Whittemore, a real Brit killer. Got shot up and bayoneted many times, left for dead, and still lived into his 90s. When you Google him, they have American Farmer next to the little picture. Because Google.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 14, 2022 11:54 AM (lz5hY)

278 We took a tour a few years ago of BNSF's Network Op Center in Ft. Worth, it was like NASA mission control. If inexperienced people take that over, it will make Gomez Adams train wrecks look like a walk in the park.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2022 11:53 AM (A7urr)

It can all be done by computers.

- Dr. Strangelove

Posted by: Archer at September 14, 2022 11:54 AM (gmo/4)

279 What was the interest rate at it's height in the Carter years? 15% or something like that? A little bit before I was ... politically aware.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2022 11:54 AM (5JqIf)

280 In the comments of the awesome Alex Stein video, Mark Dice dropped some knowledge: Dan "Eyepatch McCain" Crenshaw has a glass eye, so he wears the eyepatch purely to look tacticool. Everything about him is fake.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 14, 2022 11:54 AM (ZGrMX)

281
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Since high school, I've literally been saying the same thing -- except about killing Commies. And that does seem to be all I have to look forward to now in my golden years ....
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 14, 2022 11:53 AM (VlLnx)

A Polish general was asked what it was like to kill another human being. "I don't know. I've only killed communists."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:54 AM (Zz0t1)

282 Like what. The Unions suddenly start supporting Republicans?

I doubt it.

Many of the rank and file already do, but the heads of the Unions will be less inclined to provide campaign money and "volunteers" to the Dems. Gotta teach them a lesson about who really runs things.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 14, 2022 11:54 AM (ayzS/)

283 >>The root cause of vanishing trust IMO: The media…. The media has been lying for decades;

MSM + Social Media appointing themselves as "fact-checkers" and suppressors of "disinformation."

Wanna let everyone know you're lying? Talk about how you are the one true speaker of truth and then actively silence others.

It's a tell with individuals, and it sure as heck is a tell with these two institutions.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2022 11:55 AM (I/doM)

284 "If inexperienced people take that over, it will make Gomez Adams train wrecks look like a walk in the park."

Union Pacific got backed up in the 90's, it took them months to achieve fluidity again...the CEO was apologizing to everyone for having failed.

This would be much worse than that.

Posted by: DaveX64 - AWFLs smell like dryer sheets at September 14, 2022 11:55 AM (MnwkE)

285 If the strike happens, watch for a trillion dollar subsidy from the fed to keep the trains running.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at September 14, 2022 11:55 AM (BdMk6)

286 We took a tour a few years ago of BNSF's Network Op Center in Ft. Worth, it was like NASA mission control. If inexperienced people take that over, it will make Gomez Adams train wrecks look like a walk in the park.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2022 11:53 AM (A7urr)

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Atlas Shrugged 2: Railway Strike Boogaloo.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 14, 2022 11:55 AM (VlLnx)

287 This busty bikini brunette has been in enough bars that she's learned to trust no one but herself:
https://is.gd/0T2epJ

There we go. My type.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at September 14, 2022 11:55 AM (XvPQV)

288 >>The root cause of vanishing trust IMO: The media…. The media has been lying for decades; the lies have become more overt (thank you PDJT). If the media magically started to tell the truth and be neutral purveyors of facts, trust might start to return. If they don’t stop lying (I I can’t imagine they’ll stop lying) trust will continue to degrade.

I mostly agree. The reason the left has been able to get away with as much as they have is largely because the media runs cover for them as their propaganda arm. Everything from the BLM/antifa riots to the virus to stolen election to government corruption.

And while I don't think they will willingly stop lying they might be forced to if they want to survive. CNN is being trashed by the left right now for moderating a little and the WaPo is having serious financial problems. Fewer people are listening to them everyday.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2022 11:55 AM (ZLI7S)

289 Why would the FIB take the My pillow guys phone ? I know he's annoying, but this seems a bit much
Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2022 11:44 AM (bs+z0)

He supports Trump. Period.
Posted by: Sponge

Lindell, in addition to spending millions of his own money supporting pro-life and Trump, also rose from the ashes when every single retailer cancelled orders and their commitments to his company and to the pro-American dream that he provides for his employees.
It's not just that he supports President Trump 100%, it's that he and his company have survived the swamp, just like Trump. Not many others could say the same or have fought as hard for America First, as Mike Lindell.

Posted by: old chick at September 14, 2022 11:55 AM (sOete)

290 Biden: "Were-macht?"

Fetterwoman: "There macht."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 14, 2022 11:47 AM

Biden: You must be Fetterman, Jack!

Fetterman: It's pronounced Fetterwoman.

Biden: Not a joke?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2022 11:56 AM (4p7Em)

291 Why would the FIB take the My pillow guys phone ? I know he's annoying, but this seems a bit much
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He organized a group investigating voter/voting fraud in one of the states that we all know is a crime.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 14, 2022 11:56 AM (yikp0)

292 In the grand scheme of things I think removing the media at large from the public domain would go a long way towards improving things.

Removing... by any means necessary.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2022 11:57 AM (BFigT)

293
Biden: You must be Fetterman, Jack!

Fetterman: It's pronounced Fetterwoman.

Biden: Not a joke?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2022 11:56 AM (4p7Em)

Biden: Woman, huh? *sniffs hair*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)

294 273 I worked with a guy in the steel mill who took an early vested retirement from the railroad. He worked in an operations center and said it could be as trying as being an air traffic controller.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 14, 2022 11:57 AM (lz5hY)

295 Why would the FIB take the My pillow guys phone ? I know he's annoying, but this seems a bit much

Lindell has been vocal about the 2020 election being stolen. "TRUMPWON" is one of the discount codes he gives out.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 14, 2022 11:57 AM (ZGrMX)

296 What was the interest rate at it's height in the Carter years? 15% or something like that? A little bit before I was ... politically aware.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2022 11:54 AM (5JqIf)

I don't remember exactly but I do know specifically that it was 5% in 1990.

Posted by: polynikes at September 14, 2022 11:58 AM (9pcIx)

297 292 In the grand scheme of things I think removing the media at large from the public domain would go a long way towards improving things.

Removing... by any means necessary.
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If it goes hot, the media are your first target. Kneecap them and their bosses no longer have a voice. Stuff you learn from union guys.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2022 11:58 AM (ppL7t)

298
Lindell has been vocal about the 2020 election being stolen. "TRUMPWON" is one of the discount codes he gives out.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 14, 2022 11:57 AM (ZGrMX)

Showing they'll investigate ANYTHING BUT the election.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:58 AM (Zz0t1)

299 >> Unions will be less inclined to provide campaign money and "volunteers" to the Dems. Gotta teach them a lesson about who really runs things.

Color me doubtful. Unions are Democrat entities and have little to no leverage to bring to the table.

They will agitate and get some crumbs....but that's about it.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2022 11:59 AM (L14qM)

300 57
'By Fri, there many smoldering ruins throughout the country.'

Prove it.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 14, 2022 11:59 AM (YohY1)

301 We took a tour a few years ago of BNSF's Network Op Center in Ft. Worth, it was like NASA mission control. If inexperienced people take that over, it will make Gomez Adams train wrecks look like a walk in the park.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2022 11:53 AM (A7urr)

Train Wreck at Montparnasse x 1000

https://tinyurl.com/2nrphjk7

Posted by: spindrift at September 14, 2022 11:59 AM (h5TKJ)

302 The root cause of vanishing trust IMO: The media…. The media has been lying for decades; the lies have become more overt (thank you PDJT). If the media magically started to tell the truth and be neutral purveyors of facts, trust might start to return. If they don’t stop lying (I I can’t imagine they’ll stop lying) trust will continue to degrade.

I mostly agree. The reason the left has been able to get away with as much as they have is largely because the media runs cover for them as their propaganda arm. Everything from the BLM/antifa riots to the virus to stolen election to government corruption.

And while I don't think they will willingly stop lying they might be forced to if they want to survive. CNN is being trashed by the left right now for moderating a little and the WaPo is having serious financial problems. Fewer people are listening to them everyday.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2022 11:55 AM (ZLI7S)

But didn't they always lie to us? But the proliferation of alternative sources just made us aware of it?

Posted by: Wally at September 14, 2022 12:00 PM (FJYfm)

303 What was the interest rate at it's height in the Carter years? 15% or something like that? A little bit before I was ... politically aware.

--

I was only in high school at that time, but years later in the 1990s, I was working with an older woman who told me she and her husband had a mortgage then with a 21% interest rate!

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 14, 2022 12:00 PM (sVtYq)

304 294 273 I worked with a guy in the steel mill who took an early vested retirement from the railroad. He worked in an operations center and said it could be as trying as being an air traffic controller.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 14, 2022 11:57 AM (lz5hY)

That's on a good day. Now add in a New Orleans hurricane or a Chicago snowstorm. Shit gets fucked up real fast.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 14, 2022 12:00 PM (Oa1Nr)

305 My wife and I bought our first home in 1986, after I got out of the Navy. We got a great deal on an 1-year ARM. The initial interest rate was 8.50% with 2 points.

Posted by: Archer at September 14, 2022 12:01 PM (gmo/4)

306 296 What was the interest rate at it's height in the Carter years? 15% or something like that? A little bit before I was ... politically aware.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2022 11:54 AM (5JqIf)

I had non-working cash bringing in 12-13 % interest in the early 80's

I wasn't leveraged and the antique market in Europe was depressed, so it was a good time for me

Posted by: OX at September 14, 2022 12:01 PM (us2H3)

307 They had apparently tracked him all the way to Iowa and back through his cellphone.

Lindell said he cooperated fully with the agents.

“I said, ‘I’ve been wondering why you haven’t come to bash down my door because I have all the evidence [of machine voting fraud],” Lindell said he told the agents, as he recounted the experience to broadcaster Brannon Howse Tuesday night at Frankspeech.com.

“We start talking and they’re asking questions about Colorado. I said ‘are you going to arrest me, because this will make international news.'”

He asked, “could you please arrest me? If you’ve been watching my show, I’ve been wanting you to arrest me so I can show you all the evidence I have (about election fraud).”

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 14, 2022 12:02 PM (yikp0)

308 But didn't they always lie to us? But the proliferation of alternative sources just made us aware of it?
Posted by: Wally at September 14, 2022 12:00 PM (FJYfm)
++++
I think it's twofold. One element is what you described, but the amount of routine deceit also increased. Prior to the coming of television and then the consolidation of the newspaper business, there was a ton of competition. They all lied a lot, but they weren't all telling the *same* lies at all times.

The media monolith has no competition anymore, and they all tell the same lies at the same time now. That makes identifying and exposing those lies easier, which the alternative media have done.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 12:02 PM (t0OGg)

309 >>The root cause of vanishing trust IMO: The media….

Academia is the root of our ills, imo.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2022 12:02 PM (L14qM)

310 >>If it goes hot, the media are your first target. Kneecap them and their bosses no longer have a voice. Stuff you learn from union guys.

Heh, Matt Bracken - What I saw at the coup:

https://tinyurl.com/nhdnbfvx

Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2022 12:02 PM (I/doM)

311 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 12:02 PM (Zz0t1)

312 Posted by: Lady in Black at September 14, 2022 12:00 PM (sVtYq)

Yes I think 21% was the height of the prime rate.

Posted by: polynikes at September 14, 2022 12:02 PM (9pcIx)

313 Good article Mannix - thanks.

Good to be as mentally prepared for the future as possible.

Posted by: AK at work at September 14, 2022 12:02 PM (o+IHV)

314 But respect is *earned,* not arbitrarily granted. And respect, like trust, is very hard to earn again once it has been lost or destroyed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2022 11:22 AM (t0OGg)

For me, respect is built on the foundation of trust. No trust, no respect. But you still have to earn respect, beyond showing that I can trust you.

And any respect given goes out the window once it is proven I can't trust you.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 14, 2022 12:03 PM (yHsuS)

315 >>> Germany is talking about nationalizing their energy companies.

>All of those pipelines running thru Ukraine and from Russia and not a therm of NG to spare.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 14, 2022 12:03 PM (w2Z7l)

316 >>I had non-working cash bringing in 12-13 % interest in the early 80's

You could get 16+% on a Savings Account!

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2022 12:03 PM (L14qM)

317 Also, my ex's cousin worked for CSX on a wreck investigation team. He showed up at a wedding reception with a bag phone and a Motorola radio, not drinking being on call. I ask him if they really have that many wrecks. He said "we wreck 'em all the time, you only hear about the big ones".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 14, 2022 12:04 PM (lz5hY)

318 Running by diversity means your looking for equal not the best

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 14, 2022 12:04 PM (l/est)

319 But didn't they always lie to us? But the proliferation of alternative sources just made us aware of it?
Posted by: Wally at September 14, 2022 12:00 PM (FJYfm)

I think this is largely correct. But the media at least was not the sole property of the left in years past. So the lies and propaganda has reached saturation.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2022 12:04 PM (QSjkU)

320 >>But didn't they always lie to us? But the proliferation of alternative sources just made us aware of it?

Not to this extent. They literally have become an extension of the Democrat party not just fan boys.

Look at the MAL raid. The same DOJ that leaked and lied to the media about the Russia hoax to shape a narrative is doing the same thing with the MAL raid. They are selectively leaking to their media partners information to shape public opinion to justify an illegal raid they did to prevent Trump from releasing documents he had already declassified and has every right to have.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2022 12:05 PM (ZLI7S)

321 more FEEBy sukkcoccery on New Thread

Posted by: kallisto at September 14, 2022 12:05 PM (dCxaZ)

322 Unstoppable is the best train movie I've ever seen.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2022 12:05 PM (QSjkU)

323
306 296 What was the interest rate at it's height in the Carter years? 15% or something like that? A little bit before I was ... politically aware.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 14, 2022 11:54 AM (5JqIf)

Bought my house at 8% fixed. Was able to make my payments and even pay it off early.

Higher interest rates will NOT hurt the economy.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at September 14, 2022 12:06 PM (BdMk6)

324 >>The media monolith has no competition anymore, and they all tell the same lies at the same time now. That makes identifying and exposing those lies easier, which the alternative media have done.

No, I think it's that they've always lied/had a rigid narrative, but for a decade there with the internet/social media enabling truth to slip out, independent journalists strike major blows to a narrative again and again.

In response, the MSM desperately amped up the gatekeeping, and in recent years, the over-the-top fact-checking and targeting people and upstart journalists for cancellation. They inadvertently drew attention to their ruthless, obsessive need to push the narrative, but hard - harder in the face of dissent.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2022 12:06 PM (I/doM)

325 hmm. i'm seeing rumors there may a second hunter biden laptop out there somewhere. is the guy who wrote hitler's diary available?
Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 14, 2022 11:37 AM (sGtp+)

There were three of them brought to the repair shop, they were water damaged. Apparently Hunter has a thing about tubs and electronics.
Crackheads break and lose things I am sure.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2022 12:09 PM (xhaym)

326 I had non-working cash bringing in 12-13 % interest in the early 80's

You could get 16+% on a Savings Account!
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2022 12:03 PM (L14qM)

That was when CD's were the big thing to buy. Great way to make some money on investment.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at September 14, 2022 12:10 PM (BdMk6)

327 What was the interest rate at it's height in the Carter years? 15% or something like that? A little bit before I was ... politically aware

I remember 18% for the higher risk borrowers. Being young and dumb at the time? I fit that category. In hindsight, I think those early years , along with a couple of the wise people I had in my life, helped shape my attitude towards debt. One of the attractive things about young Mrs. Sock was that she shared that attitude of debt avoidance.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 14, 2022 12:10 PM (jGuoF)

328 I mean to do what I can to ensure my country endures, it's a huge part of my heritage and that of the rest of you.

Exactly what will become clear as events unfold, but there'll be no quitting.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 14, 2022 12:10 PM (KATBx)

329 So after years of reliable service, my internet went out this morning. I ran diagnostics, disconnected and cleaned everything, then left a fan on to dry everything out. Finally it came up.

Moral of the story: Don't spill iced tea on your Ethernet jack.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at September 14, 2022 12:14 PM (sWM8x)

330 If there was an opposition party they might look at what brought Wolf to the right and see if they can use it to broadly bring people over.

If...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2022 12:14 PM (ESjRY)

331 192
Yeesh. Sorry, man.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 14, 2022 12:15 PM (YohY1)

332 319 I think this is largely correct. But the media at least was not the sole property of the left in years past. So the lies and propaganda has reached saturation.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 14, 2022 12:04 PM

I think the media has always served at the behest of the left without any shred of ethics or objectivity. I just think the problem now is that the left has never been this radical and full of hatred---for the country, and for those who disagree with them. And so the messaging from the media becomes more vitriolic, more inflammatory, and even more dishonest than ever.

Posted by: E. A. Blair at September 14, 2022 12:19 PM (+xjfh)

333 “We start talking and they’re asking questions about Colorado. I said ‘are you going to arrest me, because this will make international news.'”
He asked, “could you please arrest me? If you’ve been watching my show, I’ve been wanting you to arrest me so I can show you all the evidence I have (about election fraud).”
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 14, 2022 12:02 PM (yikp0)

Lindell is a badger, and won't stop. He is also a complete and utter madman who found recovery when his dealer cut him off, and his dealer brought in all the other dealers and told him they weren't going to sell to him either.
Some of those dealers apparently now work for him

Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2022 12:23 PM (xhaym)

334 >>> 281
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Since high school, I've literally been saying the same thing -- except about killing Commies. And that does seem to be all I have to look forward to now in my golden years ....
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 14, 2022 11:53 AM (VlLnx)

A Polish general was asked what it was like to kill another human being. "I don't know. I've only killed communists."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 14, 2022 11:54 AM (Zz0t1)

Not a general, but maybe he should have been:
https://military-history.fandom.com /wiki /Rafa%C5%82_Gan-Ganowicz
There's a Moron who has this as the nic.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2022 12:26 PM (llON8)

335 And it all crystalized when a big presidential election was stolen and the supposed opposition party (Republicans) stood by willingly and did nothing, despite controlling the legistlatures of 6 of the 7 battleground states.
Speaks volumes about who the Republicans are really for in all this mess. They are an opposition party in name only. NOT ONE DAMN THING WILL CHANGE IF THEY WIN CONGRESS IN 2022.
Fuck the G.O.P.!

Posted by: Tracy at September 14, 2022 12:31 PM (ias+u)

336 >>>Unstoppable is the best train movie I've ever seen.

>I always liked Runaway Train. Very entertaining..

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 14, 2022 12:33 PM (w2Z7l)

337 Funny how "leaned" people who claim to be on our side willing attack Mike Lindell, without ever looking at the evidence he's accured.

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