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The Morning Report — 8/10/22

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Good morning, kids. Wednesday and in the wake of the junta's Gestapo-like raid on Mar-a-Lago, the pundits are out there analyzing the fallout. A number of them are prognosticating that this maneuver all but guarantees President Trump will at the very least be the nominee and that what happened makes his re-election in 2024 a lead pipe cinch. It is amazing to me that after all we have witnessed up to and including this revolting episode that people still believe that regular order, elections, and life in general in America goes on as it always has, when in fact the republic as it was, or as we had always imagined it, has fallen and in fact fell a long time ago.

Michael Goodwin, who is a pretty good columnist for the NY Post despite his Trump aversion, wrote a column with what has got to be the most clueless headline imaginable in light of the past 48 hours, and certainly the past five years:

If Dems’ DOJ Doesn't Have Enough to Convict, Trump Will Be Back in Oval Office

Aww, isn't he cute? Along with planted, fabricated evidence, they'll have a DC jury pool along with the junta's answer to Roland Freisler, Emmett Sullivan, on the bench presiding. That should be more than "enough," Michael.

In any case, to reiterate, what does it really mean to have elections in the wake of what happened at Mar-a-Lago and really in the wake of 2020? And this is not an acute problem. Electoral fraud happens at every level and has been going on for decades (see 1960 as one example), and when we collectively decide to accept it, then it leads directly to the situation we find ourselves in. We are fallible human beings, and temptation is what it is, but this just crosses the line into something that was unimaginable even just a few years ago. The corruption is so deep and dark that only now are we seeing it. It's not just in politics but it has seeped into every corner of our society. I know I've had this quote from Abraham Lincoln before but it is just so striking in its accuracy that it might very well be our epitaph:

At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.

In actuality, Lincoln is partially correct insofar as the ideology that infected our society did come from abroad in the form of Marxism which spread thanks to the importation of the acolytes of the Frankfurt School. But evil is evil and we just took Herbert Marcuse's ball and ran with it on our own.

Let's look at this corruption in light of the raid. The FBI is, or was, a fabled institution that so many of us believed was staffed with brave, capable, incorruptible crime fighters that kept Americans safe in their homes. From the time we all got a peek up J. Edgar Hoover's skirt and saw more than a little ankle up until the present day, fools like Andrew McCarthy still claim that it's staffed by 99% good-guy ham-and-eggers and it's the political stooges at the top that ruin the image. And yet, you can rail all you want at Christopher Wray and James Comey, but it wasn't them rifling through Melania's lingerie drawer.

If the FBI rank and file are such decent, honest, ethical people, surely they'd all have refused to participate, blown the whistle ahead of time and resigned en masse rather than "just follow orders."

At the very least, I will grant that the average FBI agent while perhaps not necessarily eager to be the tip of the spear in a Gestapo-like illegal raid on the de facto head of the political opposition of a divided nation, is certainly human. They will get along to go along because they know it could just as easily be them rotting away in the Garland Archipelago along with the J6 political prisoners. Don't get me wrong; I'm damned sure there are agents at the FBI who have orgasmic delight in putting their boots on the neck of average people and you better believe more than just a handful were on the scene ripping Trump's home apart with gusto. How far we have fallen. Or really how far the insidious bastards who rotted us out from within have dragged us down.

Just to reiterate, it's not just the FBI. It's in every department of every agency. Not just law enforcement or national security but everywhere in the bureaucracy which, to remind you (as if I really need to) is in the main unconstitutional in its founding, scope and purview yet is where the real political power resides in this nation.

With multiple agencies weaponized, as we have seen clearly with the DOJ, FBI, and intelligence community, will the IRS pick up low-level enforcement? The FBI can’t arrest all of the regime’s opponents. It doesn’t need to. Enough tax liens, additional payments, and lengthy investigations will subdue most average Americans. The process is the punishment, and the IRS can bankrupt the average family faster than the DOJ bankrupted Gen. Michael Flynn. According to Republicans on the House Oversight Committee, Democrats have vowed to revive their banking surveillance. You may recall that their initial Build Back Better proposal was to audit every banking transaction over $200. Supposedly that is why the IRS needed to double in size in the first place. And the IRS is doubling in size. Manchin and Sinema will obviously cave with the correct incentives. And you should not put anything past Democrats at this point.

Does the raid on Mar-a-Lago mean anything in terms of electoral politics? That depends if you believe that electoral politics is going to mean anything in terms of halting this madness and even having the chance, slim though it might be if we do win and win massively, of starting the process of reversing course. It gets harder and harder with each passing day and each new outrage to believe that voting is a factor. In any case, I don't think we can necessarily go back to what was. But we can't lay down and surrender either. Something big is in the wind. Dictators and despots ultimately will fall, but not before leaving millions of people dead in their wake. I hope it never comes to that. I fear it will.

For now, we just have to stay engaged. And enraged.

FYI: Obviously, the Mar-a-Lago story is sucking all the oxygen out of the news but there are some important stories in the links so do take the time to peruse them.

    ABOVE THE FOLD, BREAKING, NOTEWORTHY

  • Michael Anton: "America must sink so the world may rise."
    Socialism and the Great Reset
  • "When looking at Hungary, Americans find a nation that has not lost its will to fight, its will to preserve itself, and its will to persist for future generations. This is a nation that has repeatedly elected a leader who represents the best of their national values from a young age—one who put his life on the line to fight against communism and liberate his nation as a young student activist."
    What Americans Can Learn From Viktor Orbán's Courage
  • "Western policing is on the road to hell, paved with woke intentions."
    From Law Enforcers to Woke Enforcers
  • "How market globalists, progressives, and jihadists found allies in each other."
    Globalization in the Shadow of the Crescent
  • "With multiple agencies weaponized, as we have seen clearly with the DOJ, FBI, and intelligence community, will the IRS pick up low-level enforcement? The FBI can’t arrest all of the regime’s opponents. It doesn’t need to. Enough tax liens, additional payments, and lengthy investigations will subdue most average Americans. The process is the punishment, and the IRS can bankrupt the average family faster than the DOJ bankrupted Gen. Michael Flynn. According to Republicans on the House Oversight Committee, Democrats have vowed to revive their banking surveillance. You may recall that their initial Build Back Better proposal was to audit every banking transaction over $200. Supposedly that is why the IRS needed to double in size in the first place. And the IRS is doubling in size. Manchin and Sinema will obviously cave with the correct incentives. And you should not put anything past Democrats at this point."
    Do Those 87,000 IRS Agents Look a Little Different This Morning? They Should.

NOTE: The opinions expressed in the links may or may not reflect my own. I include them because of their relevance to the discussion of a particular issue.

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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at 07:37 AM




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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 07:37 AM (Zz0t1)

2 st?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 07:37 AM (WWh8n)

3 Yeah. You didn't see THAT coming, did ya?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 07:37 AM (Zz0t1)

4 Missed it by that much!

G'morning, JJ.

G'morning, Horde.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 07:37 AM (WWh8n)

5 Global meeting, so I'm up early.

I'll call the otters.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 07:38 AM (Zz0t1)

6 holy shit SPONGE!!!

nailed it...

going to be a good day

now covfefe is ready time for content..

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 07:38 AM (WhsXQ)

7 If the FBI rank and file are such decent, honest, ethical people, surely they'd all have refused to participate, blown the whistle ahead of time and resigned en masse rather than "just follow orders."
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This has been my point for some time. "Where are the whistle-blowers?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 07:39 AM (WWh8n)

8 We know where this is headed. The deranged, hateful, destructive, murderous Marxist, Corporatist and RINO Rats which infest our fine and divine land have clearly signaled their objectives, their MO, and their desired final outcomes for the Transformation of this fine land into their version of the destination and existence of the better angels, of America’s citizens and of their posterity. These Progressives, Lefties, DemoNcrats, lying RINOs, denizens and participants of the enterTAINTment industries, the TechRats and all of the other lower 2% Scum Element of our society, are children of Hell, are messengers and lovers of the NetherWorld and mean to see us gone. ALL socialism eventually ends in mass murder. Always. He who has the ability to see or hear, should do exactly that. . . . and spread the word in any way to those who can awaken and work to rid our land of these rats.

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & Eric SwallowWell at August 10, 2022 07:39 AM (8m/Xb)

9 Kash Patel seemed to indicate that the probable motive for the FBI raid on MaL was to retrieve the papers dealing with the Russia hoax and the Clinton emails. Those were the records Trump had ordered declassified but that were never released.

I guess that makes sense seeing as how has Skankles owned the FBI at least since Janet Reno and Waco.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 10, 2022 07:40 AM (9r09r)

10 Abolish The FBI!

Never Give Up Your Guns!

Rootin For Putin!

Free Buffalo Guy!

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2022 07:41 AM (2CExO)

11 Should this bullshit succeed and Trump goes to trial, it's IMPOSSIBLE to find an impartial jury in DC because of the media and the federal government's never ending push to lie and distort everything about the man.

The case is likely the same around the country AND the world. There's NO WAY he would EVER get a fair trial, should it actually go that far.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 07:42 AM (Zz0t1)

12 Buying an EV is the same as giving in to the gay mafia or the climate change idiocy. It's a confirmation of the insane reasoning that concludes it's a good idea.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 07:42 AM (sn5EN)

13 Moronin', Hourde!

Posted by: Hans O'Lo at August 10, 2022 07:42 AM (u7pQw)

14 Strange times. We need to raise conservative historians to accurately describe these times.

Posted by: IanDeal at August 10, 2022 07:42 AM (MGjjz)

15 Ford's electric pickup truck is going up $8500. Anybody that buys one is a fool. I don't care what your reasons are, it's stupid.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 07:44 AM (sn5EN)

16 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2022 07:44 AM (T4tVD)

17 Almost 48 hours since the raid, and still no crowing about the irrefutable evidence gathered which will Get Trump Once and For All!

Posted by: davidt at August 10, 2022 07:44 AM (oTZbj)

18 Thanks JJ !

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2022 07:44 AM (T4tVD)

19 The Streisand Effect is going full blast with this. The Dems overreached with this but their hubris won't let them see it.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 10, 2022 07:44 AM (4olE8)

20 Enough tax liens, additional payments, and lengthy investigations will subdue most average Americans. The process is the punishment, and the IRS can bankrupt the average family faster than the DOJ bankrupted Gen. Michael Flynn.
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More important, they can do so cost-effectively. What they did to Flynn and Page and others, and what they're doing to Trump now, is terribly expensive. Flynn's bankruptcy probably followed his loss of maybe a few million dollars, but it cost the state tens of millions to do it. On a money basis and on an effort basis, these are Pyrrhic victories. You can afford a few Pyrrhic victories, but those won't scale.

The IRS is a much better approach. They can bankrupt the domestic opposition for a few grand per case and a few days' time, with a high degree of parallelism. The DoJ takedowns of political opponents are expensive, slow, high-effort exercises for big names where public humiliation is needed. It's for high-value targets. To get the masses of opposition, they need efficiency and high turnover. The IRS approach is much better and wildly more efficient for this latter category, and it scales well.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 07:45 AM (WWh8n)

21 I'm looking forward to the first celebrity or politician to announce they have Monkeypox. Before long it will be a badge of honor.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 07:47 AM (sn5EN)

22 Poppin Fresh is in the House, join our Slay'em VIP room and have AnalPundit do lap dances for you!

//MC Ed Morrissey

Posted by: sven at August 10, 2022 07:47 AM (Lzpvj)

23 F&F showing several more buses arriving from Texas into New York dropping off illegals.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 07:47 AM (NpAcC)

24 The FBI sniffed Melania's panties!

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 10, 2022 07:47 AM (i0slg)

25 Kash Patel seemed to indicate that the probable motive for the FBI raid on MaL was to retrieve the papers dealing with the Russia hoax and the Clinton emails. Those were the records Trump had ordered declassified but that were never released. ...
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 10, 2022 07:40 AM (9r09r)
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Yesterday, a journalist (I forget which one, apologies) made a post on Twitter about how a "source" told him that the raid was at least partly about Spygate documents. He was banned from Twitter almost immediately.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 07:47 AM (WWh8n)

26 Asshoe Republicans are filling my inbox with pleas for money. They barely bother to note the actual outrage.

I should say "Good morning" but it's not. Neighbor's back surgery scheduled for today was canceled. His insurance company wouldn't approve it. Man's been in excruciating pain after two back surgeries in as many years. The only thing left is to remove the hardware. They won't let him do.

We're not free. No part of our existence is free any more. MP4 is right. It's over.

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 07:47 AM (cTCuP)

27 They're showing the arrival of illegal aliens in NYC, being welcomed, processed, receiving cash, being directed to their destination, much like what we got returning from 'Nam.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 10, 2022 07:47 AM (lz5hY)

28 The Streisand Effect is going full blast with this. The Dems overreached with this but their hubris won't let them see it.
Posted by: NR Pax at August 10, 2022 07:44 AM (4olE


By next week most conservatives and pundits will have forgotten about it. Even our side has the attention span of a turnip.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2022 07:48 AM (qH6FZ)

29 Sefton,

I think you are being overly kind to the rank-and-file FBI agent. They are selected specifically for their acquiescence...they buy into the infallibility of the FBI, protect its brand no matter what, and are very accepting of the use of government power against The People.

These may not be bad men, but they are part of a corrosive and evil organization, and they support it blindly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 07:49 AM (XIJ/X)

30 Good morning dear morons and thanks JJ

When the trials are finally held, I will expect that membership in the FBI will be criminalized.

For to remain affiliated after the raid on Trump is to endorse it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 10, 2022 07:49 AM (EZebt)

31 If you think Trump's home being raided was Gestapo tactics, wait they shoot you for not wanting to go to jail for not paying their auto insurance extortion fees.

Posted by: Rat Salad at August 10, 2022 07:49 AM (ZU+6T)

32 Forward has a story on Judge Reinhart. Which is interesting, because the vast majority of people are attacking the guy over ties to Epstein and the fact he's nowhere near qualified to order an attack on a President.

https://forward.com/fast-forward/513804/judge-who-
approved-trump-search-warrant-attacked-for-synagogue-
involvement/

Anyways, not worried. We might not get an Augustus Caesar, but the dead and evil weight on top of our society will be well and truly purged. I don't think most people who picked up a rifle for America did it expressly to defend the Epsteinites.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 07:49 AM (9hBHf)

33 24 Only the sniff of Porker Nadler's or Sundowner Joey Bidet's diaper gives the WrayBoys a woodie.

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & Eric SwallowWell at August 10, 2022 07:49 AM (8m/Xb)

34 7 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 07:39 AM (WWh8n)

We are silently allowing all this hoping to hang on long enough to get our pensions.

//Your Selfless FIB normies

*or*

We are exactly like Analpundit and Lez Cheney and have convinced ourselves inaction is the highest form of moral action.

//Your Selfless FIB Normies

Posted by: sven at August 10, 2022 07:49 AM (Lzpvj)

35 A number of them are prognosticating that this maneuver all but guarantees President Trump will at the very least be the nominee and that what happened makes his re-election in 2024 a lead pipe cinch.

There is no evidence anywhere that people will even remember this incident two weeks from now.

No one talks about the Afghanistan debacle, The No-Jab-No-Job mandates, the DHS/FBI "attack" on the Colonial Pipeline, the Trucker's Blockade, the shipping illegal aliens around the country from black site airfields.. the list of so-called "defining moment" events goes on, even though the memory is faded after a fortnight.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 07:50 AM (3hSHB)

36 "The demeanor of the three DOJ lawyers who accompanied the FBI was described by one eyewitness as “arrogant,”

I am done with this. Name them. List their addresses.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 07:50 AM (vcv8B)

37 29 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 07:49 AM (XIJ/X)

In all candor the absolute best case scenario is that they are decent people who are immobilized by democrat agent indecency.

That is still not "good" but not morally delinquent just cowardly.

Anyone who thinks the unbalanced existing paradigm is the Bureau "working" is a fool.

Posted by: sven at August 10, 2022 07:51 AM (Lzpvj)

38 I am done with this. Name them. List their addresses.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 07:50 AM (vcv8B)

You wanna get banned or something?!?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2022 07:51 AM (80reM)

39 No one talks about the Afghanistan debacle, The No-Jab-No-Job mandates, the DHS/FBI "attack" on the Colonial Pipeline, the Trucker's Blockade, the shipping illegal aliens around the country from black site airfields.. the list of so-called "defining moment" events goes on, even though the memory is faded after a fortnight.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 07:50 AM (3hSHB)

Oh, all these scandals are piling up. Ukraine is likely to be overrun by Russia by November, which will make for particularly devastating ads. But no issue is so immediately important as the fact we're in stagflation with no end in sight.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 07:52 AM (9hBHf)

40 Good morning, JJ, Horde,

Posted by: callsign claymore at August 10, 2022 07:52 AM (MCOss)

41 Who are you?? Where are you taking us?? HELP!! HELP!!

Posted by: Melania's Panties at August 10, 2022 07:52 AM (oTZbj)

42 I tend not to believe assertions of "overreach" or "chaos" within the Deep State monolith, but this raid on Mar-a-Lago is looking like it might (maybe) be an exception. There are clearly warring factions within the state, as there are always are under monoparty rule. Every single-party dictatorship has cabals and factions that fight each other for position, and we are no different.

In this case, though, it is starting to look like someone moved faster and harder than expected and caught other factions flat-footed. The Atlantic had an interesting headline yesterday (it's in one of Ace's posts) about how this raid is *not* an example of the US becoming a "banana republic." This is one of the very few times the press has ever accepted the opposition's framing of a story and the defended their position against it. They don't usually do this, because it's a weak approach. You reject the opponent's framing and present your own, to put the opponent - not yourself - on the defensive. The press is very good at doing this, because they have pre-built narratives for everything.

But not this. It looks like a lot of the press was caught flat-footed and had to scramble. Curious.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 07:53 AM (WWh8n)

43 There is no doubt, nor should there be any doubt fedgov will have planted evidence against Trump. Because this is EXACTLY what they have been doing since The TRUMP Tower escalator ride.

Posted by: Democrats: Raping The Children We Cannot Kill Since 1973! at August 10, 2022 07:53 AM (jV+aN)

44 And that's a great write-up, JJ.

Good to see your move to the best time zone hasn't affected your ability to bring the noise.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 07:53 AM (Zz0t1)

45 Ford's electric pickup truck is going up $8500. Anybody that buys one is a fool. I don't care what your reasons are, it's stupid.
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 07:44 AM (sn5EN)



I'm a Ford fan and have been since childhood.

I agree with this sentiment and believe it's a HUGE mistake for Ford to push in this direction, even IF it's government forced.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 07:54 AM (Zz0t1)

46 35 Reuben Hick is right !!

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & Eric SwallowWell at August 10, 2022 07:54 AM (8m/Xb)

47 These may not be bad men, but they are part of a corrosive and evil organization, and they support it blindly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 07:49 AM (XIJ/X)

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No. Theyre VERY bad men. ALL of them. ALL LEOs are. They think they have the right to kill you as long as they have legal imminityvto do so and can justify it on their minds.

Posted by: Rat Salad at August 10, 2022 07:54 AM (ZU+6T)

48 Forward has a story on Judge Reinhart. Which is interesting, because the vast majority of people are attacking the guy over ties to Epstein and the fact he's nowhere near qualified to order an attack on a President.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 07:49 AM (9hBHf)
++++
Judge Reinhold >> Judge Reinhart

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 07:54 AM (WWh8n)

49
These may not be bad men, but they are part of a corrosive and evil organization, and they support it blindly.


I'm sorry, but "It wasn't me, officer, I was just holding the flashlight" doesn't make someone a good person.

They are bad men, even when they are "just driving the getaway car".

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 07:54 AM (3hSHB)

50 By next week most conservatives and pundits will have forgotten about it. Even our side has the attention span of a turnip.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2022 07:48 AM (qH6FZ)

Hey! I'm right here ya know. Paying attention.

Us Turnips are always paying attention. Unlike Carrots.

Carrots are asshoe.

Posted by: Turnip, Paying Attention at August 10, 2022 07:55 AM (2CExO)

51 One thing I noticed about the verbiage, the press likes to call thrm "Private emails". This is the equivalent of calling the Menendez brothers orphans.

Mrs Clinton in fact was running illegal, unsecured computer servers, which by all accounts contained official state secrets, sources and methods, itineraries, top secret satellite imagery etc.

Further these top secret documents and images and the rest of it, were of the sort that were never intended to even exist anywhere on the internet itself. Ordinarily they can only be viewed in a secure, compartmentalized information facility.

Somebody had to take pics, or scan/copy them and abscond with them in violation of the law and upload them to the unsecure devices.

It is absolutely insane what actually happened versus the narrative the press and sycophants tried to portray.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 10, 2022 07:55 AM (BQGK9)

52 "Omar’s victory was slim, collecting just 50.5% of the casted votes against Samuels’ 48% in the four-way race with nearly 100% of votes counted."

--

Unfortunately, even a "slim" win is a win. And that piece of **** will be reelected in the general.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 07:55 AM (sVtYq)

53 If the FBI rank and file are such decent, honest, ethical people, surely they'd all have refused to participate, blown the whistle ahead of time and resigned en masse rather than "just follow orders."

I say this not as an attempt to justify, or minimize, their behavior but perhaps we should consider this agency, in particular, as having a cult-like quality. As I understand it, most agents are recruited direct from college where they have been steeped in anti-American rhetoric. Once in the agency, they are surrounded by like-minded individuals. No doubt they are indoctrinated into an us-vs-them mindset which would encourage them to associate, mostly, with other agents. Over time, the mental rot grows more and more.

Again, this is not to excuse the actions of the agents but, rather, an exercise in understanding how this may have come into being so as to prevent its recurrence in the event, God willing, that we emerge from this dark time to a period of less corruption.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 07:55 AM (1Z8zZ)

54 Excellent point by Anton. In fact, all these terms from the colloquial handbasket of history are somehow inapt. Socialism, communism, fascism, Maoism, Stalinism, et all describe something circumscribed by its contemporary time and place and do not definitively represent what we're now experiencing. They're useful from which to draw analogies but don't tell the real story. I surrender to the impulse to use the terms, but I prefer the broad "authoritarianism" before going into details.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 07:55 AM (H8QX8)

55 The IRS approach is much better and wildly more efficient for this latter category, and it scales well.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


It only scales well if we cooperate. If we fold early in the process.

If the IRS is threatening to bankrupt me on bogus claims, I have nothing to lose. I may as well stonewall those fu*kers to my last dying breath.

And who knows what I'll do if they really put my back to the wall?

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 07:55 AM (vcv8B)

56 Judge Reinhold >> Judge Reinhart
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 07:54 AM (WWh8n)

Yeah, but he's better than I am too, so let's just give him the win.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 07:57 AM (9hBHf)

57 These may not be bad men, but they are part of a corrosive and evil organization, and they support it blindly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 07:49 AM (XIJ/X)
++++
About 80 years ago when we were high on victory, we established the precedent - to the definite detriment of everyone in the organization with this opinion, and the state operators who enable and encourage it - that "I was just following orders" is not a legitimate excuse.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 07:57 AM (WWh8n)

58 Robert Spencer: "With this new precedent they have set in the raid on Trump’s home, they have placed the nation on new and dangerous ground. With what is coming next, God help us all."

Among the base, this might be true. But among the movers and shakers in the GOP? The McConnells, the McCarthys, the Romneys and Collinses and Cruzes? It means nothing.

A Trump candidate running for POTUS (I'm looking at you, Heavy D) should at this moment be privately planning to 3 AM SWAT raid Chappaqua the moment they finish reciting the oath of office.

But that won't happen. Because that's not who we are.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 07:58 AM (AW0uW)

59 “I am deeply contemplating taking a busload of New Yorkers to go to Texas and do some good ol’ fashion door knocking,”

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"Door knocking" ? ...by New Yorkers? ...in Texas? .... lol.
Yes... go with that!

Posted by: Haywood at August 10, 2022 07:58 AM (2wQyE)

60 "Michels, who was endorsed by former President Donald Trump, beat out former Lt. Governor Rebecca Kleefisch."


I was going to vote for Kleefish, as she had been a pretty good Lt. Governor here in Wisconsin, but then this thing happened with the raid and all, and I got mad and voted for the Trump-endorsed candidate of which I know very much less.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 07:58 AM (45fpk)

61 The FBI whistle blowers saw that nothing was done when Trump was in office. Sessions abdicated and the deep state has been in control since 2017. There have been reported from Congress about the FBI agents who are talking to Republicans. But to what end? The media buries it. The democrats are in on it. And the Tim Scott's of the Republican party act like they haven't got a fucking memory.

Posted by: Fish at August 10, 2022 07:58 AM (ADw0E)

62 It took the U.S. to forcibly dismantle the Nazi systems of Germany and to force Japan to remake their systems.

It may take another, more powerful nation to disband our totalitarian systems, as well. Barring the return of Christ, it might just have to be Russia or China to make our Deep State agencies go the way of the Cheka, the Stasi, and the God-Emperors of Japan.

No President can do this. It's too entrenched. Overwhelming force must be applied, and no President, not even the most Trumpian, has that kind of force.

So when I get black-pilled and told Russia is fighting the American Empire of Lies, I can only wish them Godspeed, for we obviously share the same enemy. Putin's fighting the American Deep State? My answer? "Good! At least someone is."

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 10, 2022 07:58 AM (M9XmQ)

63 "I'm a Ford fan and have been since childhood.
Posted by: Sponge "

I own 5 Fords, if you count the tractor. I doubt if I will ever buy a new one again.

Posted by: Tom Selliit at August 10, 2022 07:58 AM (sn5EN)

64 History is littered with the rise and fall of corruption. We, as Americans are spoiled to think that we would not be subjected to that same history. The only that will take my freedom is the end of my life, for I will never surrender it willingly.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2022 07:59 AM (kjUEG)

65 Off hunky sock

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 07:59 AM (sn5EN)

66 Every time the Dems try to get Trump on something it backfires and blows-up in their face. I think this time is no different. Even when they stole the election, look what they got. They are evil assholes. A pox upon them.

Posted by: Case at August 10, 2022 07:59 AM (tmQgQ)

67 These may not be bad men, but they are part of a corrosive and evil organization, and they support it blindly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 07:49 AM (XIJ/X

I thought I made that point. I guess not.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 07:59 AM (x0n13)

68 But no issue is so immediately important as the fact we're in stagflation with no end in sight.

Because we are all bitch slapped with it every time we get to the check-out counter.

Yet, the focus group tested "the price of gasoline is fifty cents cheaper" works on the Mayfly brained populace who totally forgot that they are still paying at least two dollars more per gallon now than the day before the junta voided the Keystone XL pipeline permit.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 07:59 AM (3hSHB)

69 Intriguing, isn't it, that the raid came almost immediately after Manchin caved? That surrender green-lighted it.

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 08:00 AM (cTCuP)

70 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 07:37 AM (Zz0t1)
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Well done!

Nothing like a dopamine hit first thing in the morning....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 08:00 AM (YIVH2)

71 I still think a national divorce or full blown civil war are about the only ways we'd be able to restructure the government. It simply can not be reformed from within.

The time it'd take and the corruption in place make a peaceful restructure impossible.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2022 08:00 AM (BFigT)

72

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 10, 2022 08:01 AM (74Gk2)

73 I say this not as an attempt to justify, or minimize, their behavior but perhaps we should consider this agency, in particular, as having a cult-like quality. As I understand it, most agents are recruited direct from college where they have been steeped in anti-American rhetoric. Once in the agency, they are surrounded by like-minded individuals. No doubt they are indoctrinated into an us-vs-them mindset which would encourage them to associate, mostly, with other agents. Over time, the mental rot grows more and more. ...
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 07:55 AM (1Z8zZ)
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This same description could also be used to describe - on fairly tame terms, but nonetheless accurate - the SS. The cultish in-group, the aggressive recruitment of the young and fanatical, the total indoctrination, etc. - it all parallels.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 08:01 AM (WWh8n)

74 Judge Reinhold >> Judge Reinhart
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 07:54 AM (WWh8n)



Alright HAMILTON!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at August 10, 2022 08:01 AM (Zz0t1)

75 62 Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 10, 2022 07:58 AM (M9XmQ)

THIS.

I was alluding to this and have stated it in the past. There has to be a massive and compulsory de-Marx-ification program in this country if we do come out on top.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:02 AM (x0n13)

76 Thanks JJ

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:02 AM (WY8d2)

77 >>> 39 No one talks about the Afghanistan debacle, The No-Jab-No-Job mandates, the DHS/FBI "attack" on the Colonial Pipeline, the Trucker's Blockade, the shipping illegal aliens around the country from black site airfields.. the list of so-called "defining moment" events goes on, even though the memory is faded after a fortnight.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 07:50 AM (3hSHB)

Oh, all these scandals are piling up. Ukraine is likely to be overrun by Russia by November, which will make for particularly devastating ads. But no issue is so immediately important as the fact we're in stagflation with no end in sight.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 07:52 AM (9hBHf)

*thinks back to a conversation else-blog*

"crystallization of a super-saturated solution"

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 08:02 AM (llON8)

78 No President can do this. It's too entrenched. Overwhelming force must be applied, and no President, not even the most Trumpian, has that kind of force.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 10, 2022 07:58 AM (M9XmQ)

In theory. Of course, the British Empire not only had globe-spanning commerce and the greatest navy ever, but had considerable support among the American people before the Revolution.

But more to the point, King George was basically competent, and taxes were high due to the Seven Years War against France (including in North America). Economic collapse in the West is inbound due to the insane neocon vendetta against post-communist Russia. Put that on top of the CCP getting ready to throw off all American influence, and you realize there's a non-zero chance of a major American city getting nuked.

Do you think the cabal can survive that?

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:02 AM (9hBHf)

79 Putin's fighting the American Deep State? My answer? "Good! At least someone is."

Sad to say, but empirically speaking, Putin is more MAGA and Pro America than the House, Senate, Executive and Judiciary, independently or combined.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 08:02 AM (3hSHB)

80 Posted by: sven at August 10, 2022 07:51 AM (Lzpvj)

Hey, Sven! Good to see you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:03 AM (AW0uW)

81 Sorry JJ, I'm not swallowing the black pill this morning.

This the most desperate of desperate moves I've ever seen. This doesn't come from a position of strength.

I've worked with the intel community my entire career. But only is this not the way they do business, they have entire training courses on why you don't operate in the open like this.

This is so politically dumb that it can't be the political actors. There is something the deep state is so worried about that they are willing to risk the high likelihood of Trump winning in 2024 because of this.

Folks keep saying "they will just cancel the elections". I have yet to hear how they are going to do that. Is it a military coup where they arrest all the judges? The states are going to hold elections regardless of what Washington and the deep state wants.

Trump is going to run in 2024 and a significant majority of the country is going to vote for him. How are they going to stop him? The only practical way to do it is assassination. They can't legally bar him and they can't stop people from voting for him.

So is it going to be the RFK solution?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 08:03 AM (+nNfY)

82 Mornin', all! Another weirdly cool MO morning. The global warmening idiots should relax and enjoy an August morning with the windows open.

Moar covfefe!

Thanks for the newz, JJ.

Oh, and Hiya, JT.

That should cover it.

Posted by: Catherine at August 10, 2022 08:03 AM (ZSsrh)

83 "Moderna exploring the possibility of creating an mRNA monkeypox vaccine."

This was the end goal all along. Everything will be mRNA, with all it's incumbent health concerns, for everyone but the elite.

As Bill Gates once said, "We shall control the world's population through the use of vaccines."

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:03 AM (1Z8zZ)

84 No one talks about the Afghanistan debacle, The No-Jab-No-Job mandates, the DHS/FBI "attack" on the Colonial Pipeline, the Trucker's Blockade, the shipping illegal aliens around the country from black site airfields.. the list of so-called "defining moment" events goes on, even though the memory is faded after a fortnight.

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It's a choo-choo train of scandals, one after another rolling by...zoom, zoom, zoom.

But aside from the imbeciles and true lofo's in our midst (and I admit there are a lot), I don't think these events are being collectively "forgotten." I think with each outrage, the pressure is building. At this stage, most people just don't know what to do, what to think, or how to get it fixed. We're being relentlessly bombarded. But it's reaching a pressure point as everything builds day after day. In low whispers, people that don't talk politics are talking politics...and everyone knows something is very wrong.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 08:03 AM (sVtYq)

85 Do you think the cabal can survive that?

Absolutely, and the cabal is likely to issue the order.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 08:04 AM (3hSHB)

86 Have some quality college friends who are Trump voters, White Collar types.

Talked to all of them yesterday about the raid, and they think I am wearing a tin foil hat about the FBI , DOJ, and IRS. They just want to talk about the markets and netflix. Head in the sand

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:04 AM (WY8d2)

87 *hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 10, 2022 08:01 AM (74Gk2)


Hold my beer.

Posted by: Marshawn Lynch at August 10, 2022 08:04 AM (rJ48h)

88 I still think a national divorce or full blown civil war are about the only ways we'd be able to restructure the government. It simply can not be reformed from within.

The time it'd take and the corruption in place make a peaceful restructure impossible.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

As I said at #62, there is a third, more common way, to restructure a corrupt government.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 10, 2022 08:04 AM (M9XmQ)

89 81 Trump is going to run in 2024 and a significant majority of the country is going to vote for him. How are they going to stop him? The only practical way to do it is assassination. They can't legally bar him and they can't stop people from voting for him.

So is it going to be the RFK solution?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 08:03 AM (+nNfY)

Bernie Kerik has the same brainwave. Trump is going to get gunned down either before or after '24.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:04 AM (x0n13)

90 58 A Trump candidate running for POTUS (I'm looking at you, Heavy D) should at this moment be privately planning to 3 AM SWAT raid Chappaqua the moment they finish reciting the oath of office.

But that won't happen. Because that's not who we are.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 07:58 AM (AW0uW)

I’d much rather see the vaunted Heavy D call for the elimination of FIB and follow immediately with actions ending cooperation with FIB in FL. This raid happened in FL and his people got a heads up it was coming.

Posted by: FIB = KGB at August 10, 2022 08:04 AM (ZGlod)

91 Something else we were discussing last night...maybe this is some kind of Op to force Preznit Pants Shitting Retard to step down.

You know that stupid fuck signed off on this and it's gonna come out that he did - OR- he is just eating pudding cups and sniffing little girls while his DOJ and FBI are running around out of control.

Either way, they'll sacrifice a few mid level operatives to the CNN/MSNBC circuit and move on.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 10, 2022 08:04 AM (9r09r)

92 Eric Adams Threatens to Send Busloads of New Yorkers To Texas

Send them in August. LOL

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:04 AM (1Z8zZ)

93 Good morning. Adams is all bark and no bite. It would be pretty funny though for a busload of New Yorkers to be dumped in the middle of Texas.

Posted by: jewells45 at August 10, 2022 08:04 AM (nxdel)

94 All men are bad.

A good man is just a bad man who recognizes that fact and tries to mitigate it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2022 08:05 AM (80reM)

95 Ron Johnson is said to be in trouble in WI, but last night got nearly 200,000 more votes than his D counterpart in the primary.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 08:05 AM (45fpk)

96 I was going to vote for Kleefish, as she had been a pretty good Lt. Governor here in Wisconsin, but then this thing happened with the raid and all, and I got mad and voted for the Trump-endorsed candidate of which I know very much less.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 07:58 AM (45fpk)

I voted for neither, they're both weak and unimpressive and neither one have any idea what's really going on and their priorities line up with the GOPe. She was attractive though.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2022 08:05 AM (qH6FZ)

97 It amazes me how quickly most news gets metabolized into the minds of most people. Not this Mar-a-Lago raid news, though, this is going to be an open sore for a long time. Even rabid Democrats think this is way over the line, and the paltry explanations make it clear this is just another fishing expedition.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:05 AM (lFE5c)

98 81. Excellent point, Dave. Intelligence apparatus likes to work in the shadows. They are desperate

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:07 AM (WY8d2)

99 I’d much rather see the vaunted Heavy D call for the elimination of FIB and follow immediately with actions ending cooperation with FIB in FL. This raid happened in FL and his people got a heads up it was coming.
Posted by: FIB = KGB at August 10, 2022 08:04 AM (ZGlod)

Seriously, if no one bothered informing the Governor that the FBI was about to attack the President's house on a "Magistrate's" order, the DeSantis competency image will take a major hit.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:07 AM (W5Yhi)

100 "It would be pretty funny though for a busload of New Yorkers to be dumped in the middle of Texas.
Posted by: jewells45"


Especially if they are homeless bums they picked up off the street.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:07 AM (sn5EN)

101 So is it going to be the RFK solution?

And then they get Don Jr. in a revenge and vengeance vote.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 08:07 AM (3hSHB)

102 They are evil assholes. A pox upon them.
Posted by: Case at August 10, 2022 07:59 AM (tmQgQ)
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Monkeypox, chickenpox, or smallpox? Personally, I'm good with afflicting them with all three at once.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (YIVH2)

103 Ron Johnson is said to be in trouble in WI, but last night got nearly 200,000 more votes than his D counterpart in the primary.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 08:05 AM (45fpk)

Don't be surprised if the (R) candidates lose this one. Both Johnson and Michels are as exciting as a wet dish rag. The only thing going for them is the Democrat candidates are just as exciting and the economy is in the toilet.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (qH6FZ)

104 Kleefish seemed weak to me. Need somebody stronger in these times

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (WY8d2)

105 Ron Johnson is said to be in trouble in WI, but last night got nearly 200,000 more votes than his D counterpart in the primary.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 08:05 AM (45fpk)
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Dave in Fla (to his credit) keeps pointing out htis simple fact- the Republicans are pulling in far moe voters to the primaries than the Democrats in contested or open seats.

Enthusiasm. It's what will drive November. And, Levrenti Garland just added a whole extra-large cup of hot, steaming enthusiasm to the mix.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (lFE5c)

106 89 how to turn a Cold War hot.
Instead of whining about what the DS will do to Trump there should be warnings that violence will bring retribution

Posted by: FIB = KGB at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (ZGlod)

107 They caught the serial killer here in ABQ yesterday. Turns out he's Afghani and knew his victims, been here a couple of years they say. And now the story will go away before we learn too much about the facts I suspect.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (sRUs0)

108
I own 5 Fords, if you count the tractor. I doubt if I will ever buy a new one again.
Posted by: Tom Selliit at August 10, 2022 07:58 AM (sn5EN)



I do as well, if you count the Mercury. I'll likely stick to the used market going forward.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (Zz0t1)

109 Bernie Kerik: "Their next move will be assassination."

Exactly. And getting away with the raid will make the attempt come that much sooner.

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (cTCuP)

110
Intriguing, isn't it, that the raid came almost immediately after Manchin caved? That surrender green-lighted it.

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 08:00 AM


My guess is when Trump talked about eliminating the Dept of Education at CPAC a few days ago and everyone in the room knew who he was really talking about. I think he got a standing ovation.

Bingo, find a corrupt magistrate, and presto search warrant. It was a return shot across the bow.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (jE276)

111 "When are Senate Republicans going to realize McConnell is cooked?"

It's crooked. The word you're looking for is crooked.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (1Z8zZ)

112 Abbott needs to keep sending those busses. Maybe the people in sanctuary cities will start getting pissed like those of us who live in a border state.
Fox reporting that there were more cameras than ever before. Usually it's only the Fox crew.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (NpAcC)

113 Johnson is a incumbent in a strong GOP year. Barnes is a abortion barbie

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:09 AM (WY8d2)

114 So is it going to be the RFK solution?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 08:03 AM (+nNfY)
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I doubt it. It's possible, but if they go down that road it will be a different style and they'll try to make it look like natural causes. Icing him publicly will make him a martyr and whoever the heir apparent is - likely DeSantis, but it's anyone's guess - will get the largest mandate in history to go on the warpath.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 08:09 AM (WWh8n)

115 I'm somewhat shocked at the shock of so many pundits about the raid. How many years does it take studying the Left to have seen this coming? I suppose evincing "shock" is good for effect, ratings or attention, but honestly, it reveals some historical ignorance and unpreparedness.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 08:09 AM (H8QX8)

116 Excellent point by Anton. In fact, all these terms from the colloquial handbasket of history are somehow inapt. Socialism, communism, fascism, Maoism, Stalinism, et all describe something circumscribed by its contemporary time and place and do not definitively represent what we're now experiencing. They're useful from which to draw analogies but don't tell the real story. I surrender to the impulse to use the terms, but I prefer the broad "authoritarianism" before going into details.

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I agree. What we are quickly developing into is an amalgam of all those. We'll be a new chapter in the totalitarian handbook for future generations.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 08:09 AM (sVtYq)

117 Especially if they are homeless bums they picked up off the street.
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:07 AM (sn5EN)

They'd be comfortable homeowners in five years.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2022 08:09 AM (80reM)

118 Good morning everyone. Thank you J.J. - Happy Birthday!!

Verse for the day:

"Do not let your hearts be troubled. You have faith in God; have faith also in me. In my Father's house there are many dwelling places. If there were not, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back again and take you to myself, so that where I am you also may be."

--John 14:1-3

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2022 08:09 AM (LsEU/)

119 Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (qH6FZ)


LaFollette sailed right through. Shocker, I know.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 08:09 AM (45fpk)

120 You may recall that their initial Build Back Better proposal was to audit every banking transaction over $200. Supposedly that is why the IRS needed to double in size in the first place

*

It just occurred to me part of how the job numbers are 500K+. We were talking about it yesterday.

Ebay transactions require 1099s over $600. That is self-employment, isn't it? You sell one retired Star Wars Lego set and that's counted as a job.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:10 AM (05Ubu)

121 So is it going to be the RFK solution?

I'd bet money on it. And, the 'assassin' will not be any sort of leftist - the feebs won't be that stupid. They are going to put forward (if they don't already have him in the pipeline) a 'lifelong Republican' who is afraid of Trump's 'authoritarianism' and 'tendency to fascism,' setting up a blog where he says "This is not the GOP I have voted for all my life."

And then - the Dealey Plaza scenario.

MFM: "See? See? We TOLD you Trump was a danger to democracy! Even his own party thinks so!"

I may be wrong in some details, but not, I think in the overall picture.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:10 AM (AW0uW)

122 John 14:1-3

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2022 08:09 AM (LsEU/)


Such a beautiful passage. Thanks Tonypete.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 08:10 AM (45fpk)

123 ...for a busload of New Yorkers to be dumped in the middle of Texas.

They wouldn't last long.

Posted by: Case at August 10, 2022 08:10 AM (tmQgQ)

124 Not this Mar-a-Lago raid news, though, this is going to be an open sore for a long time. Even rabid Democrats think this is way over the line, and the paltry explanations make it clear this is just another fishing expedition.

Because now there is no excuse not to hit Hitlary or Obama with a train of raids and take-downs.

The only problem is, the FIB is an affiliation of the Hitlary/Obama Party and would reject right away any order coming from a non Party Whitehouse.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 08:10 AM (3hSHB)

125 103. Please. Johnson has won two hard fought races against Feingold.

what the hell are you talking about it?

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (WY8d2)

126 Even rabid Democrats think this is way over the line...

Posted by: Huck Follywood

Do they? Not from the comments I've been reading. The millions of people clapping and cheering must be something beyond "rabid". Because they love this, tell us they love it, and that they want more of it.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (M9XmQ)

127 They just want to talk about the markets and netflix. Head in the sand
Posted by: Jonah


Even my significant other was remarkably unperturbed. She's normally more reactive than me. She's getting it now, but I think a lot of people don't understand how unprecedented this is.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (vcv8B)

128 "I do as well, if you count the Mercury. I'll likely stick to the used market going forward.
Posted by: Sponge "

In a few years we will be like Cuba, the lucky few will have classic cars rigged up with parts from whatever is available, and running on fuels made from whatever is available.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (sn5EN)

129 Good morning.
More coffee.

Posted by: dantesed at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (88xKn)

130 They just want to talk about the markets and netflix. Head in the sand

Mrs McCool is as conservative minded as I am.
But unlike me, she is not immersed in politics.
She listens to sports radio, christian radio, and music.
Doesnt read newspapers or news sites.

So many topics I bring up in discussion she's never heard of ...... There's a whole lotta normies out there who are blissfully blue-pilled (even tho they may be reliable conservatives)

Posted by: McCool at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (BqBIh)

131 So is it going to be the RFK solution?

*

Is that like their Antonin Scalia solution?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (05Ubu)

132 Because now there is no excuse not to hit Hitlary or Obama with a train of raids and take-downs.

The only problem is, the FIB is an affiliation of the Hitlary/Obama Party and would reject right away any order coming from a non Party Whitehouse.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 08:10 AM (3hSHB)
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Right, and everyone knows it. That's a problem if you're interested in maintaining even a thin, dilapidated veneer of credibility.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (WWh8n)

133 Folks keep saying "they will just cancel the elections". I have yet to hear how they are going to do that. Is it a military coup where they arrest all the judges? The states are going to hold elections regardless of what Washington and the deep state wants.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 08:03 AM (+nNfY)
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Yeah, elections are managed by the states. Blue states *might* cancel elections, but red states will be loud and proud about holding their elections, unlike the cowards in blue states. Also, what happens if the blue states forgo elections? Do they also forfeit their representation because their candidates' terms have ended?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (YIVH2)

134 81 Real, Accurate, Obvious

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & Eric SwallowWell at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (8m/Xb)

135 Even rabid Democrats think this is way over the line, and the paltry explanations make it clear this is just another fishing expedition.

I live in MA. Let me get back to you on 'rabid Democrats.' The 'sound off' column of my local rag is full of them, and I guarantee you they will be calling in jumping for joy that Adolf Drumpf is finally going to be held accountable for his treason.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:12 AM (AW0uW)

136 Talked to all of them yesterday about the raid, and they think I am wearing a tin foil hat about the FBI , DOJ, and IRS. They just want to talk about the markets and netflix. Head in the sand
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:04 AM (WY8d2)
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to me, this says we still have some "good and hard" education coming our way (as a nation).

Only when the vaunted "centrists" get the point, and start voting with greater intent and focus, will we start to see the light of day.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:12 AM (lFE5c)

137 Live in IL, and have followed wisconsin politics closely. They vote big on waves.

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:12 AM (WY8d2)

138 Kleefish seemed weak to me. Need somebody stronger in these times
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (WY8d2)

She was actually the more forceful candidate in the race. Michels turns into blubbering idiot when confronted by anyone. He's just horrible. Imagine Lindsey Graham without any charisma.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2022 08:12 AM (qH6FZ)

139 I may be wrong in some details, but not, I think in the overall picture.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:10 AM (AW0uW)

You're wrong on the whole thing. I'm sure they would have used a professional assassin by now if possible. But Donald Trump has had top-tier security for as long as I've been alive. Now that he's had four years to take his pick of the Secret Service, you'd need a full scale op to harm him. And that would have preposterous risks even by the standards of the Reinhardt Raid. Better to detonate a bomb and blame it on Putin, or some stupid thing.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:13 AM (CkMrU)

140 "Socialism, communism, fascism, Maoism, Stalinism, et all describe something circumscribed by its contemporary time and place and do not definitively represent what we're now experiencing. They're useful from which to draw analogies but don't tell the real story."

The founders had the real story: tyranny.

Posted by: Brett at August 10, 2022 08:13 AM (V4Yns)

141 Please. Johnson has won two hard fought races against Feingold.

what the hell are you talking about it?

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (WY8d2)


I'm talking about hearsay, gossip and speculation. I thought that's what we do here.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 08:13 AM (45fpk)

142 137 Live in IL, and have followed wisconsin politics closely. They vote big on waves.
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:12 AM (WY8d2)


This Mandela Barnes better not win, i.e., be installed. I escaped Schumer and Chubby G to get away from that crap.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:13 AM (x0n13)

143 15 Ford's electric pickup truck is going up $8500. Anybody that buys one is a fool. I don't care what your reasons are, it's stupid.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 07:44 AM (sn5EN)

Went in to a MB dealer the other day. Half the cars on the showroom floor were EV. No price on the sticker on the one I looked at. Beautiful cars. I'm sure there are enough wealthy virtue signalers out there to put a few on the road.

Posted by: Javems at August 10, 2022 08:13 AM (AmoqO)

144 'lifelong Republican' who is afraid of Trump's 'authoritarianism' and 'tendency to fascism,' setting up a blog where he says "This is not the GOP I have voted for all my life."

So we will soon see a pantsless fat assed Jonah Goldberg stuck trying to go over the fence and uber-cuck Philistine Dave down below holding a flashlight tweeting their escapades for virtue signaling points.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 08:13 AM (3hSHB)

145 Try to tell friends that Wall Street gave 90% of their donations in 2020 to Biden, even after the tax cuts.

Wall Street is left wing trash. Socialists with money

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:14 AM (WY8d2)

146 We're not free. No part of our existence is free any more. MP4 is right. It's over.
Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 07:47 AM (cTCuP)


https://youtu.be/ep-xgd_eETE

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:14 AM (1Z8zZ)

147 Even my significant other was remarkably unperturbed. She's normally more reactive than me. She's getting it now, but I think a lot of people don't understand how unprecedented this is.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (vcv8B)
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Or a lot of them understand it but just don't care anymore, or don't bother displaying that they care about. I don't know how many people there are out there who are just moving along with their lives, taking note of it, adding it to the long list of misbehavior and abuse, and marking time until there's an incident that results in their destruction. These people won't make a lot of noise, but they will do absolutely nothing to prevent what's coming. They're paying attention but have outwardly checked out and are just waiting for the fall.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 08:14 AM (WWh8n)

148 "Even rabid Democrats think this is way over the line, and the paltry explanations make it clear this is just another fishing expedition."

I'm not seeing this.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 08:14 AM (H8QX8)

149 Imagine Lindsey Graham without any charisma.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2022 08:12 AM (qH6FZ)

Yeesh. About the only value is to make it even clearer that endorsements from the Vichy GOP aren't remotely enough to put you over the top. This is Trump's Party.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:14 AM (9hBHf)

150 Eric Trump was on Greg Kelly show last night on Newsmax and hopefully there is a you tube from Newsmax of it. Kelly opened with asking how Eric was and the reply was I am pissed off. Eric got the call from staff at MAL that the FBI was there and were not allowing lawyers to witness the search. His dad and I assume Melania and Barron have spent the summer at Bedminster. He went off on a justified rant on what the Democrats have done for six years to the Trumps. Needs to be seen by as many as possible.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 10, 2022 08:14 AM (ane7J)

151 Wall Street is left wing trash. Socialists with money
Posted by: Jonah

AM NOT!! NEENER NEENER!!!

--- Jamie Dimon

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2022 08:15 AM (LsEU/)

152 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:12 AM (AW0uW)
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I live in a socialist college town, so I get your point. My only anecdotal experience was my coffee shop conversation this morning with two neighbors, and they are definitely shaken up by this. They hate Drumpf, think he is somehow a criminal, and yet thought the Stasi could have negotiated behind the scenes for what they needed/wanted, rather than made this show of force.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:15 AM (lFE5c)

153 As individuals, aside from voting for conservative candidates, what else is to be done about the mess we are in? I believe that is the position that the majority of people find themselves in.

Posted by: kraken at August 10, 2022 08:15 AM (Vr12I)

154 "Ebay transactions require 1099s over $600. That is self-employment, isn't it? You sell one retired Star Wars Lego set and that's counted as a job."

Another thing that pisses me off about ebay is that when you bought an item, say a toaster, you paid sales tax on it then. Then when you sell it, they collect sales tax again. What does the State do to deserve that revenue again and again on something they had nothing to do with?

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:15 AM (sn5EN)

155 --John 14:1-3

I wish I had faith. I really do.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:15 AM (AW0uW)

156 125 103. Please. Johnson has won two hard fought races against Feingold.
what the hell are you talking about it?
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (WY8d2)

So what? Do you know anything about Wisconsin? They get sick of people pretty fast. I know I'm done voting for that asshole.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2022 08:16 AM (qH6FZ)

157 Then when you sell it, they collect sales tax again. What does the State do to deserve that revenue again and again on something they had nothing to do with?

Posted by: fd

Right. Now do inheritance taxes.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2022 08:16 AM (LsEU/)

158 130 Does that explain why an obvious Corporatist Slimebag/George Bush ball gargler like Shit Rumney gets re-elected in Utah, which is obviously "mostly" Conservative--and also a bit testy, given their span of history--or does it instead explain that the Michigan Carpetbagger doesn't get tossed because no one sees a need to primary him?

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & Eric SwallowWell at August 10, 2022 08:16 AM (8m/Xb)

159 145 Wall Street is left wing trash. Socialists with money
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:14 AM (WY8d2)


A socialist with money is also known as a Member of the Politburo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:16 AM (x0n13)

160 Sorry Grammie. Both times Johnson won in 2010 and 2016. The Wisconsin experts, like the shit marquette polls had him down double digits to Feingold.

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:17 AM (WY8d2)

161 Yeah, elections are managed by the states.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel


Which is why we never give that up. Fortunately, with current SCOTUS, any attempts by the Feds to grab that power should be reversed. Constitution is pretty clear on the subject (although IANAL).

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 08:17 AM (vcv8B)

162
A socialist with money is also known as a Member of the Politburo.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:16 AM (x0n13)



The WEF, laughing, spreads it's wings.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:17 AM (Zz0t1)

163 155 --John 14:1-3

I wish I had faith. I really do.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:15 AM (AW0uW)


"Ahem!"

- - George Michael

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:17 AM (x0n13)

164
FBO - what Melania's clothes closet and lingerie drawers smell like.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 10, 2022 08:17 AM (jE276)

165 I agree with this sentiment and believe it's a HUGE mistake for Ford to push in this direction, even IF it's government forced.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 07:54 AM (Zz0t1)


If the government is forcing them then they should have announced that they are planning on laying off their entire US workforce and that this policy is the reason why.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:17 AM (1Z8zZ)

166 Not this Mar-a-Lago raid news, though, this is going to be an open sore for a long time. Even rabid Democrats think this is way over the line, and the paltry explanations make it clear this is just another fishing expedition.

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It's more than a fishing expedition. In real terms, it's an unprecedented, extremely dangerous political hit job against a (former) president of the United States. The reverberations are going to go to the bone marrow of what we are. And just what are we?

I've been reminding myself of the runup to the 2020 election. And how any talk about investigating Joe Biden for his filthy Ukrainian corruption and threats against that prosecutor just simply couldn't be done. It would be seen as a political hit job against an opponent of Donald Trump. Why, we can't have that. Nosiree.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 08:18 AM (sVtYq)

167 159. Exactly. Weekends at the Daca, while the bread lines form in Moscow.

Dimon, blankfein, most of CNBC. All left wing trash

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:18 AM (WY8d2)

168 The Wisconsin experts, like the shit marquette polls had him down double digits to Feingold.

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:17 AM (WY8d2)


The sun shined a little brighter that day when Feingold went down.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 08:18 AM (45fpk)

169 My wife thinks November is going to see violence in the streets again, as Bob Creamer's Antifa army gets in everyone's faces.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:18 AM (lFE5c)

170 The longer the silence goes on with no official statement from the DoJ, FBI or the junta makes me think it will fade and become a non-issue to a lot of people.

The "ignore it and it will go away" tactic. It might work as most people's attention span these days are measured in minutes.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2022 08:18 AM (BFigT)

171 Eric got the call from staff at MAL that the FBI was there and were not allowing lawyers to witness the search.
Posted by: Jen the original

Did they learn this from inner city election workers, or vice versa?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 10, 2022 08:19 AM (M9XmQ)

172 If a prisoner is elected president, can he pardon himself?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:19 AM (6ObvH)

173 The FBI could have planted time delayed killer covid virus variation release devices at MAL.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:19 AM (sn5EN)

174 Another thing that pisses me off about ebay is that when you bought an item, say a toaster, you paid sales tax on it then. Then when you sell it, they collect sales tax again. What does the State do to deserve that revenue again and again on something they had nothing to do with?
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:15 AM (sn5EN)
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Lots of states charge sales tax on used goods. They shouldn't - it's double-taxation - but they do.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 08:19 AM (WWh8n)

175 Stop Telling Conservative Teens to Not Go To College

Leaving universities firmly in the hands of the enemy while young conservatives reduce their chances of achieving the American dream is not the path forward."

Definitely feel that if you start preparing your kids and teaching them about leftist propaganda and mind manipulation this can work.

Teach them while their young to be leaders not followers, before they're ready for college.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 08:19 AM (NpAcC)

176 As individuals, aside from voting for conservative candidates, what else is to be done about the mess we are in?

Go work for a campaign. Work the phones; knock on doors. Volunteer to do research. Give a few bucks directly to candidates. Now is the perfect time to start!

Posted by: Squid at August 10, 2022 08:19 AM (wkzCN)

177 I think you are being overly kind to the rank-and-file FBI agent. They are selected specifically for their acquiescence...they buy into the infallibility of the FBI, protect its brand no matter what, and are very accepting of the use of government power against The People.

These may not be bad men, but they are part of a corrosive and evil organization, and they support it blindly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 07:49 AM (XIJ/X)

CBD for the win.
Are there good agents? Of course.
But there are very few.--ie none for our and the Constitution's purpose.
Fwiw my work life was associated with this group.
Evil? No. Acquiescent? Absolutely, Compulsively. And I might add Fearfully.

Posted by: Voter theater. at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (JAyzc)

178 "Just to reiterate, it's not just the FBI. It's in every department of every agency."
- its also not just the feds, its every government ever.

Posted by: DocMerlin at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (jRh4q)

179 At American Greatness:

"Stop Telling Conservative Teens to Not Go To College"

Start telling conservative teens not to split infinitives.

Posted by: gp, Lacking Standing Since 2020 at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (qpX6U)

180 Which is why we never give that up. Fortunately, with current SCOTUS, any attempts by the Feds to grab that power should be reversed. Constitution is pretty clear on the subject (although IANAL).
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 08:17 AM (vcv8B)
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Well, we are now a post-Constitutional society, so anything goes at this point...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (YIVH2)

181 Just wait until you see what they do next.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (6ObvH)

182
If the government is forcing them then they should have announced that they are planning on laying off their entire US workforce and that this policy is the reason why.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:17 AM (1Z8zZ)



With the current junta in place, this would be suicide, but I agree.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (Zz0t1)

183 170 My wife thinks November is going to see violence in the streets again, as Bob Creamer's Antifa army gets in everyone's faces.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:18 AM (lFE5c)


Oh you can make book on that. The question is, will Creamer's Droogs be exported to red states?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (x0n13)

184 I do as well, if you count the Mercury. I'll likely stick to the used market going forward.
Posted by: Sponge
*

I'd say 25% or so of the car guys I know are receptive to salvage titled vehicles now so long as they know what the damage was from the shop.

Related:

"U.S. credit card user balances shot up $46 billion in the second quarter of 2022, a 13% spike that’s the biggest year-over-year jump in 20 years and evidence consumers are taking on increasing debt to cope with ongoing, record-high inflation... The analysis also pegged overall U.S. consumer debt at an all-time high of $16.2 trillion"

Never before in U.S. history. We're in a depression. There's no way around it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (PpeqO)

185 The mood will change after the GOP Takes the House, with the marxists at the DOJ. The one party gravy train will be over

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (WY8d2)

186 Paul can't even spell "Capone".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (lFE5c)

187 No. Theyre VERY bad men. ALL of them. ALL LEOs are. They think they have the right to kill you as long as they have legal imminityvto do so and can justify it on their minds.
Posted by: Rat Salad at August 10, 2022 07:54 AM (ZU+6T)


I'm not in law enforcement. If I could justify in my own mind a reason to kill you and was certain I'd have legal immunity from it, I'd kill you. Pretty much anyone would. The big question is the justification. How high is your bar?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (1Z8zZ)

188 We are definitely living in the twilight zone, or the Russian Revolution

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 10, 2022 08:21 AM (ISPXD)

189 Cops caught the guy who was murdering muslim men in New Mexico.

Just a few days ago, Slow Joe Biden expressed his righteous outrage at these horribly raaaaaacist "hate crimes" and vowed to stand with the muslim community against all the evil white haters!

To no one's surprise, the killer turned out to be another muslim, Muhammad somebody-or-other, who was killing his victims as part of a Sunni-Shia beef.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at August 10, 2022 08:21 AM (MvHI3)

190 Apparently Dr. OZ is playing nice, and will not go after Fetterman's Health. Philly buddy says Fetterman had a massive stroke and they are hiding him

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:21 AM (WY8d2)

191 Paul can't even spell "Capone".

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Don't be too hard on him. He's a simp. He can't help it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 08:22 AM (sVtYq)

192 My wife thinks November is going to see violence in the streets again, as Bob Creamer's Antifa army gets in everyone's faces.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:18 AM (lFE5c)
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Probably true, but it's also likely that people are DONE with that shit and will take matters into their own hands to put down the violent criminals running amok if the cops won't.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 08:22 AM (YIVH2)

193 I'm sorry, but "It wasn't me, officer, I was just holding the flashlight" doesn't make someone a good person.

They are bad men, even when they are "just driving the getaway car".
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 07:54 AM (3hSHB)


Someone should point out to them that the guy driving the getaway car, the one who never entered the bank at all, gets charged with murder just the same if someone on the inside is killed.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:22 AM (1Z8zZ)

194 ...for a busload of New Yorkers to be dumped in the middle of Texas.

They wouldn't last long.

Posted by: Case at August 10, 2022 08:10 AM


He can send as many as he wants here to rural NE Texas, the heat and the hogs will take care of them.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 08:22 AM (bVYXr)

195 To no one's surprise, the killer turned out to be another muslim, Muhammad somebody-or-other, who was killing his victims as part of a Sunni-Shia beef.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer

Well, sure. But those fucking racist white supremacists killing muslims in NM are still an outrage which must be dealt with.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:23 AM (6ObvH)

196 You're wrong on the whole thing. I'm sure they would have used a professional assassin by now if possible. But Donald Trump has had top-tier security for as long as I've been alive. Now that he's had four years to take his pick of the Secret Service, you'd need a full scale op to harm him. And that would have preposterous risks even by the standards of the Reinhardt Raid. Better to detonate a bomb and blame it on Putin, or some stupid thing.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:13 AM (CkMrU)


I take your point. Although, I think the reason a 'professional assassin' hasn't been employed yet is because the Deep State thought it could lawfare, impeach or harass Trump and his movement into oblivion. But as neither Trump nor the base show signs of 'moving on' and are, in fact, angrier than ever, I still think there is an open window for an Oswald patsy.

But what do I know? I'm just an asshole commenter on a Smart Military Blog.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:23 AM (AW0uW)

197 CNBC says average consumer heating costs are rising at a 15% clip in the UK. The Green New Deal has arrived.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:23 AM (lFE5c)

198 184. No. violence will be in the Chicago area, where Republicans are scared of their own shadow

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:23 AM (WY8d2)

199 To no one's surprise, the killer turned out to be another muslim, Muhammad somebody-or-other, who was killing his victims as part of a Sunni-Shia beef.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at August 10, 2022 08:21 AM (MvHI3)

I'm sure he was yet another "known wolf."

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:23 AM (Rei2g)

200 Wall Street is left wing trash. Socialists with money

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:14 AM (WY8d2)

Many of the E suites are left-wing, but there are plenty of finance people who do not vote Democrat.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:23 AM (XIJ/X)

201 NYers have been exporting themselves all over the east coast (and Wisconsin) for decades.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:23 AM (6ObvH)

202 The mood will change after the GOP Takes the House, with the marxists at the DOJ. The one party gravy train will be over
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (WY8d2)



Yeah, now do Dan Crenshaw.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:23 AM (Zz0t1)

203 Went in to a MB dealer the other day. Half the cars on the showroom floor were EV. No price on the sticker on the one I looked at. Beautiful cars. I'm sure there are enough wealthy virtue signalers out there to put a few on the road.

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I'd say half of brands have stated they're going to be all electric by 2030-2035. IIRC the UK said they're banning gas cars after 2025 and you can only buy electric.

And no one wants them.

Go ahead and explain that one to me. (that's a joke. It's a WEF coordinated event)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:24 AM (PpeqO)

204 Apparently Dr. OZ is playing nice, and will not go after Fetterman's Health. Philly buddy says Fetterman had a massive stroke and they are hiding him
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:21 AM (WY8d2)
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the debates will be lit.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:24 AM (lFE5c)

205 Many of the E suites are left-wing, but there are plenty of finance people who do not vote Democrat.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

But still fund dems to hedge.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:24 AM (6ObvH)

206 Go work for a campaign. Work the phones; knock on doors. Volunteer to do research. Give a few bucks directly to candidates. Now is the perfect time to start!
Posted by: Squid

Amen to that. Local politics, especially within the Repub party, is the dirtiest thing I've ever seen.

And I've been to Olongapo.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2022 08:24 AM (LsEU/)

207 Who after 9-11, thought that muslims in this country are more trustworthy than White Liberals?

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:24 AM (WY8d2)

208 Biden’s Handlers Released 324 Unvetted Afghan Evacuees on Terror Watchlist Into the U.S.

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This is a nice, comforting headline. How very reassuring to know my own federal gov't is watching out for the safety and well-being of all Americans. What's a few hundred Afghans on the terror watchlist in the scheme of things! Roam around the country at will, fellas. After all, we can "absorb" another terror attack, according the the Jug Earred Marxist.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 08:25 AM (sVtYq)

209 Just heard that the Ohio Supreme Court has granted a stay of payment to Oberlin College and Gibson Bakery will not find the monetary relief it requires to stay in business. This whole story is disgusting and heartbreaking.

It also a story of our time in almost every respect, and has every element for a Hollywood movie -- 100-year-old small family business underdog fighting abuse of power by massive and wealthy academic institution, triumphing against lynch-mob level Leftist slander, etc. But of course Hollywood will never touch it.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 08:25 AM (H8QX8)

210 "Lots of states charge sales tax on used goods. They shouldn't - it's double-taxation - but they do."

ebey was forced into collecting sales tax on every sale by the government. Even if the sale should be tax exempt.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:25 AM (sn5EN)

211 I don't think we'll have to wait until November for political violence.

It started back in 2020.*

*technically it's been ongoing for centuries, but in the context of current events I think 2020 is proper.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2022 08:26 AM (BFigT)

212 No. Theyre VERY bad men. ALL of them. ALL LEOs are. They think they have the right to kill you as long as they have legal imminityvto do so and can justify it on their minds.
Posted by: Rat Salad

*

In fairness that's mostly just in Democrat controlled areas and places that have been controlled by Democrats for 50+ years.

Same as always.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:26 AM (PpeqO)

213 [FBI agents] are very accepting of the use of government power against The People.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


Every cop I have ever met. Ever.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 08:26 AM (vcv8B)

214 CNBC says average consumer heating costs are rising at a 15% clip in the UK. The Green New Deal has arrived.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Sheeeeeeet.

My budgeted natural gas monthly bill has doubled in each of the past two months.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2022 08:26 AM (LsEU/)

215 "If you have to ask, you can't afford one."

-- EV salesmen everywhere

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 10, 2022 08:26 AM (M9XmQ)

216 This same description could also be used to describe - on fairly tame terms, but nonetheless accurate - the SS. The cultish in-group, the aggressive recruitment of the young and fanatical, the total indoctrination, etc. - it all parallels.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 08:01 AM (WWh8n)


I agree. The individuals must be punished but we need to consider that this sort of behavior by a government agency will always be inimical to a free society.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:27 AM (1Z8zZ)

217 But as neither Trump nor the base show signs of 'moving on' and are, in fact, angrier than ever, I still think there is an open window for an Oswald patsy.

But what do I know? I'm just an asshole commenter on a Smart Military Blog.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:23 AM (AW0uW)

Oh, sure. But it's really not as easy as you think anymore. Guarding a whole motorcade route is hard. Surveying a single rally is doable for a billionaire. And Trump has been doing this for decades, or his family would have been ransomed by the cartel at least before 2015.

For that matter, Oswald was a Marine. I'm sure he was shooting, he just wasn't the only one.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:27 AM (9hBHf)

218 Oh you can make book on that. The question is, will Creamer's Droogs be exported to red states?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (x0n13)
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Probably. They'll infiltrate the blue cities in red states (every red state has at least one blue city, I think). That's about as far as it will go, though.

They know if they step one foot outside those city limits, they don't last long.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 08:27 AM (YIVH2)

219 I escaped Schumer and Chubby G to get away from that crap.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:13 AM (x0n13)

Who is your representative?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:27 AM (XIJ/X)

220 Just for comparison, the annual increase in the IRS budget the junta just awarded is about equal to the annual revenues of P&G, or SONY.

The Feds long ago lost sight of rational spending, I get that, but wow.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:27 AM (lFE5c)

221 Daily Mail:
BREAKING NEWS: Trump says he hopes the FBI didn't 'PLANT' evidence: Ex-President says Mar-a-Lago staff and lawyers were blocked from watching raid agents - as it emerges DOJ wanted 'security cameras turned off'

https://tinyurl.com/nshj67e7

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 08:27 AM (NpAcC)

222 In a few years we will be like Cuba, the lucky few will have classic cars rigged up with parts from whatever is available, and running on fuels made from whatever is available.
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:11 AM (sn5EN)

Or like that Twilight Zone episode "The Old Man In The Cave" where the horses are pulling cars around like wagons.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2022 08:27 AM (2CExO)

223 Young girl here on my block, bankrupted her parents by going to Yale. Got a entry job at Jp Morgan, and goes to every marxist march in NY wearinga pussy hat. Father says the firm encourages it and gives her time off to go

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:27 AM (WY8d2)

224 Everyone is looking to 2024 for this to be fixed. Don't they understand we're not going to last for another two years?

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 08:27 AM (cTCuP)

225
To no one's surprise, the killer turned out to be another muslim, Muhammad somebody-or-other, who was killing his victims as part of a Sunni-Shia beef.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at August 10, 2022 08:21 AM


''Sectarian violence''. How nice.

I'm trying to remember how many years ago I predicted this.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 10, 2022 08:28 AM (jE276)

226 222. That is depressing. If that is true, time to throw out the flag, it is over

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:28 AM (WY8d2)

227 'Posted by: Hairyback Guy '

Gosh I hope we haven't eaten all the horses by then.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:29 AM (sn5EN)

228
Seriously, if no one bothered informing the Governor that the FBI was about to attack the President's house on a "Magistrate's" order, the DeSantis competency image will take a major hit.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:07 AM (W5Yhi)

Why would you think that a Federal Agency would ever tell anyone on the State level what they were doing? There is no way they told them. The Feds believe they are far above any state level officials, and as long as the DOJ protects them legally, they are. They consider states like Florida and Texas as "The Enemy", and would never tell them anything willingly.

It is probably time for State governments to treat the Feds like a hostile occupying force, and to set up their own covert intelligence services which can cultivate undercover contacts who can let them know what the feds are really up to.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:29 AM (r46W7)

229 This same description could also be used to describe - on fairly tame terms, but nonetheless accurate - the SS.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 08:01 AM (WWh8n)

15 years ago I would have laughed at this and said it was tin-foil-hat territory.

It's not so funny any more.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:29 AM (XIJ/X)

230 Before you hitch an Airstream to your electric truck and set out to circumnavigate the country, you need to understand this: With the largest available battery pack, a fully charged 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning electric truck has less energy onboard than a regular F-150 with four gallons of gas in its tank.

Posted by: Neo at August 10, 2022 08:29 AM (DzSdD)

231 "Lots of states charge sales tax on used goods. They shouldn't - it's double-taxation - but they do."

ebey was forced into collecting sales tax on every sale by the government. Even if the sale should be tax exempt.


Guarantee you that a significant percentage of those new irs "agents" will be focused solely on ebay. They generate over $10 billion in sales every year and you know that the vast majority of people selling on there do not report anything.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 08:29 AM (bVYXr)

232 Soylent Green

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:29 AM (WY8d2)

233 You have to have money in order to afford being a Socialist.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 10, 2022 08:29 AM (EZebt)

234 ebey was forced into collecting sales tax on every sale by the government. Even if the sale should be tax exempt.
Posted by: fd


Any undeclared barter? Off to the gulags, refusenik.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 08:29 AM (vcv8B)

235 hahahaha

The EV rebate in the Build Back Better bill? Most EVs won't qualify.

"to qualify for the credit, an electric vehicle must contain a battery built in North America with minerals mined or recycled on the continent.

And those rules become more stringent over time — to the point where, in a few years, it's possible that no EVs would qualify for the tax credit"

https://tinyurl.com/2oenlk62

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:29 AM (PpeqO)

236 "they'll try to make it look like natural causes."

He'll lose a wrestling match with a pillow.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 10, 2022 08:30 AM (i0slg)

237 [From the Stacey Lennox link at PJ Media:] "You may recall that their initial Build Back Better proposal was to audit every banking transaction over $200."

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Strictly academic, but I thought it was any transaction over $600 or ACCOUNT with over $600 in transactions/year.

Regardless, wholly unbelievably idiotic outside a third-world shithole banana-in-the-tailpipe republic (oh, I think I see the problem here now) and would have been thought so & mocked mercilessly prior to half the fucking world going clinically insane beginning in 2020.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 08:30 AM (PnkSq)

238 Daily Mail:
BREAKING NEWS: Trump says he hopes the FBI didn't 'PLANT' evidence: Ex-President says Mar-a-Lago staff and lawyers were blocked from watching raid agents - as it emerges DOJ wanted 'security cameras turned off'

https://tinyurl.com/nshj67e7
Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 08:27 AM (NpAcC)

Hilarious. Look, you can give people shit for being stuck in the Harry Potter era, but JKR made one of the truly ballsy moves when Dumbledore said LOLGF as his government put him under "arrest." Then kicked all their asses.

The FBI might try to attack Trump openly under the pretext of an arrest... but they'd be betting their lives on it.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:30 AM (9hBHf)

239 220 I escaped Schumer and Chubby G to get away from that crap.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:13 AM (x0n13)

Who is your representative?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:27 AM (XIJ/X)

Bryan Steil. GOPer. Had to look him up. He gets a C from Levin's CR Liberty Score, for what it's worth.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:30 AM (x0n13)

240 BREAKING NEWS: Trump says he hopes the FBI didn't 'PLANT' evidence: Ex-President says Mar-a-Lago staff and lawyers were blocked from watching raid agents - as it emerges DOJ wanted 'security cameras turned off'


I hope Trump's security team has sent around teams to find hidden microphones, cameras and possible high explosives or weaponized bio-agents left behind by the FIB.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 08:30 AM (3hSHB)

241 I foresee a lot of very small time sellers on eBay hitting the exits. It just won't be worth it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 08:30 AM (sVtYq)

242 Good morning. Adams is all bark and no bite. It would be pretty funny though for a busload of New Yorkers to be dumped in the middle of Texas.
Posted by: jewells45 at August 10, 2022 08:04 AM (nxdel)


They'd all go to Austin, or Houston, where Abbott won't get the majority of the votes anyway because they don't understand the scope of Texas.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:30 AM (1Z8zZ)

243
g'mornin', 'rons

working from the office is stupid, counter-productive, off-pissing, infuriating, and stupid

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 10, 2022 08:30 AM (4bdw+)

244 Young girl here on my block, bankrupted her parents by going to Yale. Got a entry job at Jp Morgan, and goes to every marxist march in NY wearinga pussy hat. Father says the firm encourages it and gives her time off to go
Posted by: Jonah

I had to file a grievance to get them to grant me paid days off to attend the March for Life. (It was eventually granted) For any gay related march or Murder Inc. (planned parenthood) function time off was automatic. JPMChase is asshoe. Has been for years.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2022 08:31 AM (LsEU/)

245 "With the largest available battery pack, a fully charged 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning electric truck has less energy onboard than a regular F-150 with four gallons of gas in its tank.
Posted by: Neo "

That is a great way to put it.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:31 AM (sn5EN)

246 Strictly academic, but I thought it was any transaction over $600 or ACCOUNT with over $600 in transactions/year.

*

See above. Corporations are already pressured to report $600/year sales by individuals.

You can't sell your kids' Lego on ebay without risking an audit or being counted as self-employed.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:31 AM (PpeqO)

247 soon people will have to make hard choices. If they plant evidence on Trump, then those right cannot sit on the sideline and worry about Fantasy football. Have two siblings who are left wing. I will not be able to deal with them anymore

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:31 AM (WY8d2)

248 Ron Johnson is said to be in trouble in WI, but last night got nearly 200,000 more votes than his D counterpart in the primary.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 08:05 AM (45fpk)


Polls and political reporting exist, in general, to dispirit the opposition, not provide truthful information.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (1Z8zZ)

249 205 Apparently Dr. OZ is playing nice, and will not go after Fetterman's Health. Philly buddy says Fetterman had a massive stroke and they are hiding him
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:21 AM (WY8d2)
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the debates will be lit.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:24 AM (lFE5c)

there will be no debates, and Oz will lose to a dead man. Because he's the worst possible candidate that could have been chosen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (r46W7)

250 Hilarious. Look, you can give people shit for being stuck in the Harry Potter era, but JKR made one of the truly ballsy moves when Dumbledore said LOLGF as his government put him under "arrest." Then kicked all their asses.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:30 AM (9hBHf)
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You can say what you like about Dumbledore, but no can deny that the man had style...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (YIVH2)

251 Why would you think that a Federal Agency would ever tell anyone on the State level what they were doing? There is no way they told them. The Feds believe they are far above any state level officials, and as long as the DOJ protects them legally, they are. They consider states like Florida and Texas as "The Enemy", and would never tell them anything willingly.

It is probably time for State governments to treat the Feds like a hostile occupying force, and to set up their own covert intelligence services which can cultivate undercover contacts who can let them know what the feds are really up to.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:29 AM


Correct, just like most of those atf agents going around knocking on doors looking for straw purchase firearms. They do not tell anyone where they are going or when they are going to be there they just show up.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (bVYXr)

252 I watched Hannity for the first time in a while last night.

He had a 'major announcement' that his belief in the FBI has shifted. Instead of believing that 99% of the FBI employees are good and honest people, he is now decreasing it to 95%.

I used to like watching him, but today he sounds utterly clueless about everything that's happening around him, an Inspector Clouseau, but without the humor.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (GMR0L)

253 Bryan Steil. GOPer. Had to look him up. He gets a C from Levin's CR Liberty Score, for what it's worth.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:30 AM (x0n13)


He took Paul Ryan's seat when that gentleman abdicated the throne. Steil ran unopposed this time around.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (45fpk)

254 My budgeted natural gas monthly bill has doubled in each of the past two months.
Posted by: Tonypete


Just paid $2.99/gallon for propane.
Water heater, stove/oven & fireplace. We'll see how long it lasts.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (fP8pU)

255 Why would you think that a Federal Agency would ever tell anyone on the State level what they were doing? There is no way they told them. The Feds believe they are far above any state level officials, and as long as the DOJ protects them legally, they are. They consider states like Florida and Texas as "The Enemy", and would never tell them anything willingly.

It is probably time for State governments to treat the Feds like a hostile occupying force, and to set up their own covert intelligence services

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:29 AM (r46W7)

Yup. I guarantee you Trump already has (the NYPD apparently has a good network, as I learned yesterday). DeSantis isn't doing himself any favors by being behind the ball. If you want to beat Trump, at minimum you have to be aware of what's happening in your backyard. Either he wasn't, or he was actively complicit.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (9hBHf)

256 CPI unchanged. Expected .02% increase. Dow immediately up 400 plus pts.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 10, 2022 08:33 AM (ane7J)

257 All children aged one to nine and living in Greater London will be offered a polio vaccine after the virus was detected in sewage.

Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2022 08:33 AM (DzSdD)

258 "Even if the sale should be tax exempt.
Posted by: fd
Any undeclared barter? Off to the gulags, refusenik.
Posted by: quantum mechanic"


Try to get someone at ebey to accept your state sales tax reseller's exemption form. It's impossible.

I stopped selling on there a couple of years ago even though I have a bunch of stuff I could move.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:33 AM (sn5EN)

259 On the website 'nextdoor' a lady nearby my street is worried about her neighbor who has a Tesla in his garage. The garages are only a few feet apart. Her neighbor lost a Tesla to a fire just this week on the interstate. He plans on getting a new one.
Don't they build fire suppression systems into the Tesla.
Airplanes have them.

Posted by: Colin at August 10, 2022 08:33 AM (GMS7V)

260 Bryan Steil. GOPer. Had to look him up. He gets a C from Levin's CR Liberty Score, for what it's worth.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:30 AM (x0n13)

I just took a peek at his voting record. He could be better, but damn, compared to my rep he is Barry Goldwater!

Perfect is the enemy of good.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:33 AM (XIJ/X)

261
Those working for the former president who were at his Florida estate during the raid refused to turn off security cameras on the premises despite instructions from federal agents to do so, according to The New York Post.

Good for them. I hope Trump puts a little something extra in their pay next week.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 10, 2022 08:34 AM (jE276)

262 I hope Trump's security team has sent around teams to find hidden microphones, cameras and possible high explosives or weaponized bio-agents left behind by the FIB.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 10, 2022 08:30 AM (3hSHB)

Do remember that the FBI tried something similar years ago, and the NSA tipped off Trump. I'm sure he has procedures for this.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:34 AM (9hBHf)

263 Ex-President says Mar-a-Lago staff and lawyers were blocked from watching raid agents - as it emerges DOJ wanted 'security cameras turned off'
***

What's the law on that? Are they permitted to block the served parties from observing a search?

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 08:34 AM (H8QX8)

264 249 Ron Johnson is said to be in trouble in WI, but last night got nearly 200,000 more votes than his D counterpart in the primary.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 08:05 AM (45fpk)

Polls and political reporting exist, in general, to dispirit the opposition, not provide truthful information.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (1Z8zZ)

Just like the NeverTrumpers are out to get Herschel Walker. Just saw that Bill Kristol and his gang have launched a well financed anti-Herschel campaign; his group is putting more money into re-electing Warnock than even the dems are.

The Wisconsin dem Senate candidate is a well known defund the police - George Floyd is a Saint! advocate. MSM doesn't want to talk about that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:34 AM (r46W7)

265 Volunteers and activists in NYC are handing out money to the illegals coming off the bus.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 08:34 AM (NpAcC)

266 If you want to beat Trump, at minimum you have to be aware of what's happening in your backyard. Either he wasn't, or he was actively complicit.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (9hBHf)

That's not how any of this works.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:35 AM (XIJ/X)

267 Gosh I hope we haven't eaten all the horses by then.
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:29 AM (sn5EN)

Hear Me! I just got a message from the Old Man In The Cave.

He said to not eat the horses as they are radioactive and loaded with Bronstein 319. Also, cover your rain barrels as a radioactive rain storm will move thru later this evening. That is all.

Posted by: Goldsmith at August 10, 2022 08:35 AM (2CExO)

268 I can envision some scenario where a few states (just enough) run by the usual suspects to try and keep Trump off the ballot. Thereby practically keeping him from winning, as everybody knows he will. Again.

They need to work on all the details of a massive overwhelming write-in campaign.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 10, 2022 08:35 AM (EcT7r)

269 The Ministry of Truth has demanded that we stop calling it a "raid" -- so I'm going with "Police-State-sanctioned burglary."

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 08:35 AM (PnkSq)

270 What's the law on that? Are they permitted to block the served parties from observing a search?
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 08:34 AM (H8QX

The law is, when guys with guns and a badge come to your house, you do what they say or they will shoot you on the spot.

But any honest court should do a blanket toss of *anything* collected in this raid because now it has no provenance except the word of the Gestapo.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:36 AM (r46W7)

271 240. Tough district. Paul Ryan's hood, JJ. Swing seat for a long time. Hard for a true conservative to win there. Kenosha has a lot of lefties. Locust who work in Chicago, but do not want to pay IL taxes

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:36 AM (WY8d2)

272 DeSantis isn't doing himself any favors by being behind the ball.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (9hBHf)

No, he's not. Not impressed with his response. Kari Lake on the other hand seized the moment.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 08:36 AM (H8QX8)

273 "Don't they build fire suppression systems into the Tesla.
Airplanes have them.
Posted by: Colin"

Make it mandatory. It should only add another $12K or so to the cost.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:37 AM (sn5EN)

274 265. Barnes is a big infaticide loving Demon

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:37 AM (WY8d2)

275 261 I just took a peek at his voting record. He could be better, but damn, compared to my rep he is Barry Goldwater!

Perfect is the enemy of good.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:33 AM (XIJ/X)

Steil replaced Paul Ryno.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:37 AM (x0n13)

276 I used to like watching him, but today he sounds utterly clueless about everything that's happening around him, an Inspector Clouseau, but without the humor.
Posted by: Forheremenaremen at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (GMR0L)
~~~~~

I haven't watched him in forever. Even when he isn't talking about his martial arts skills or someone being "smeared, slandered and besmirched," he still has a lineup full of RINOs like Lindsay Graham.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2022 08:37 AM (3ImbR)

277 But any honest court should do a blanket toss of *anything* collected in this raid because now it has no provenance except the word of the Gestapo.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:36 AM (r46W7)
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Hmmm. I think I spotted the flaw in your argument...

How likely is it that the "evidence"--if it can be called such--will be reviewed by an honest court?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 08:38 AM (YIVH2)

278 Just heard on radio something about that awesome job report:

Full time jobs down 71K, adding part time jobs

Men leaving workforce (losing jobs), women entering workforce (essentially women taking on part time jobs to try and scrape by)

We're f*cked

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:38 AM (PpeqO)

279 DeSantis' response yesterday is why he shouldn't run for President in 2024.

Posted by: Ziba at August 10, 2022 08:38 AM (4h9M3)

280 What's the law on that? Are they permitted to block the served parties from observing a search?
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 08:34 AM (H8QX

The law is, when guys with guns and a badge come to your house, you do what they say or they will shoot you on the spot.

But any honest court should do a blanket toss of *anything* collected in this raid because now it has no provenance except the word of the Gestapo.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:36 AM


That and demanding they turn off all of the security cameras. If I was a Judge that right there would be all I would need to toss everything. No matter how this ends, anything they collected is compromised and useless and if they push it everything will be stuck in the court system for years.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 08:39 AM (bVYXr)

281 I watched Hannity for the first time in a while last night.

He had a 'major announcement' that his belief in the FBI has shifted. Instead of believing that 99% of the FBI employees are good and honest people, he is now decreasing it to 95%.

I used to like watching him, but today he sounds utterly clueless about everything that's happening around him, an Inspector Clouseau, but without the humor.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at August 10, 2022 08:32 AM (GMR0L)

-------

Hannity is what one future of on AI Bot looks like; Kamala is the other.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 08:39 AM (PnkSq)

282 I do remember 2010, at least the summer and Fall. Media touted Obama's approval in the mid 50's. Gop might not win the House, Dems may gain seats in the Senate Bullshit.

63 house seats later... We lost Senate because of some just awful moonbats like O'Donnell and Joe Buck

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:39 AM (WY8d2)

283 They hate Drumpf, think he is somehow a criminal, and yet thought the Stasi could have negotiated behind the scenes for what they needed/wanted, rather than made this show of force.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:15 AM (lFE5c)


Did you inform them that the show of force was the goal. To let ordinary people know that not even someone like Trump can escape them. That you, lesser mortal, must bow and scrape when they walk by lest the gaze of destruction wander your way.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:40 AM (1Z8zZ)

284 Not impressed with his response.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 08:36 AM (H8QX

Really?

"The raid of MAL is another escalation in the weaponization of federal agencies against the Regime’s political opponents, while people like Hunter Biden get treated with kid gloves. Now the Regime is getting another 87k IRS agents to wield against its adversaries? Banana Republic."
-- Governor Ron DeSantis

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:40 AM (XIJ/X)

285 How do I make a submission to the Pet Thread that appears every Saturday? I don't see a link for that. Please help. Thanks.

Posted by: RWilson at August 10, 2022 08:40 AM (3nHw3)

286 Just pay the tax, then apply to the government for a rebate. For every single transaction. You could always just hire someone to do this for you. But then you are a corporation and need an HR staff l, and a compliance officer, and a governance board, and an accounting department....
or just suck it up and let the government keep money they aren't entitled to.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:40 AM (6ObvH)

287 266 Volunteers and activists in NYC are handing out money to the illegals coming off the bus.
__________

That's good. It gives the illegals even more of an incentive to get on those NY-bound buses. The governors here and in TX can't force the illegals to go, they have to volunteer to get on the buses. The prospect of getting free money in NY can be used to motivate them to make the trip.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at August 10, 2022 08:40 AM (MvHI3)

288 Volunteers and activists in NYC are handing out money to the illegals coming off the bus.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 08:34 AM (NpAcC)

Good. Maybe they will tell their relatives and they can all go to new yawk city.

Change the name of the place to Nuevo Mexico City.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2022 08:41 AM (2CExO)

289 I had to file a grievance to get them to grant me paid days off to attend the March for Life. (It was eventually granted) For any gay related march or Murder Inc. (planned parenthood) function time off was automatic. JPMChase is asshoe. Has been for years.
Posted by: Tonypete


At my previous Wall Street job I would poke HR on occasion over their hypocritical policies or pronouncements favoring one leftist victim group or another.

They would respond with "we would be happy to discuss" to which I would reply "No need to discuss. It's your choice. Just seems inconsistent to me given the relevant legislation makes no distinction between X/Y" (i.e. male/female, white/black, etc - insert as appropriate).

Several times they reversed. Needless to say, I only started doing this after I had decided I was going to quit.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 08:41 AM (vcv8B)

290 >>Steil replaced Paul Ryno.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:37 AM (x0n13)

Pretty much hand picked by Ryan

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at August 10, 2022 08:41 AM (Z/jzm)

291 Tough district. Paul Ryan's hood, JJ. Swing seat for a long time. Hard for a true conservative to win there. Kenosha has a lot of lefties.

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:36 AM (WY8d2)


Used to be Les Aspin's district, if anyone remembers him. Then Paul Ryan, now Stiehl. Kenosha votes about 52-48 D, but the farther west you go in, the redder it gets. You're right, it's a swing district. In 2016 when it went for Trump, I knew he was going to take Wisconsin.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2022 08:41 AM (45fpk)

292 The founders would be appalled at the national police force with a limitless budget and extra constitutional jurisdiction.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 10, 2022 08:41 AM (TzR9i)

293 I've been reminding myself of the runup to the 2020 election. And how any talk about investigating Joe Biden for his filthy Ukrainian corruption and threats against that prosecutor just simply couldn't be done.

Trump was impeached for arguing that Ukraine shouldn't cancel an investigation just because the target was a politically connected American.

Seems this raid is significantly more of grounds for impeachment.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2022 08:42 AM (ESjRY)

294 We will keep investigating, deposing, and raiding until we find evidence of a crime. If we don't find anything soon, that is proof you are hiding something and are guilty of obstructing the investigation.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:42 AM (6ObvH)

295 280. Maybe. He let it happen on his turf. Granted Trump knew about it the night before, and kept it quiet to avoid another Jan 6th. But the fact that DeSantis did not have intel in his own state is sad

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:42 AM (WY8d2)

296 petmorons@gmail.com

Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2022 08:42 AM (3ImbR)

297 in fairness, nyc alreasy has "busloads" of nyers going to texas, but they are going in cars

if he wants to screw his city harder and faster, give the residents a vacatin to tx

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (vJ6dp)

298 Dick Cheney you are a disgrace.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (EZebt)

299 The mood will change after the GOP Takes the House, with the marxists at the DOJ. The one party gravy train will be over
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (WY8d2)


Where can I get whatever you're smoking?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (1Z8zZ)

300 Seems this raid is significantly more of grounds for impeachment.
Posted by: 18-1

FJB didn't know! He learned about it on the news just like you!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (6ObvH)

301 Just heard on radio something about that awesome job report:

Full time jobs down 71K, adding part time jobs

Men leaving workforce (losing jobs), women entering workforce (essentially women taking on part time jobs to try and scrape by)

We're f*cked

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:38 AM


Wow, I just saw that. 303,000 of those "new" jobs added last month were involuntary part time or temporary positions. 384,000 of the total added last month were part time/temporary. The economy is not growing when you are only adding less than 200,000 full time jobs each month.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (bVYXr)

302 Really?

"The raid of MAL is another escalation in the weaponization of federal agencies against the Regime’s political opponents, while people like Hunter Biden get treated with kid gloves. Now the Regime is getting another 87k IRS agents to wield against its adversaries? Banana Republic."
-- Governor Ron DeSantis
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:40 AM (XIJ/X)

Yes. Really. I didn't say it was terrible, just that it didn't impress me. I could have thought it up in my sleep. Compare it to Lake's.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (H8QX8)

303 295 280. Maybe. He let it happen on his turf. Granted Trump knew about it the night before, and kept it quiet to avoid another Jan 6th. But the fact that DeSantis did not have intel in his own state is sad
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:42 AM (WY8d2)


You think the FL agencies aren't keeping things from DeSantis?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (x0n13)

304 Posted by: RWilson at August 10, 2022 08:40 AM (3nHw3)

The email address is posted on the Pet Thread.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (XIJ/X)

305 DeSantis' response yesterday is why he shouldn't run for President in 2024.

Posted by: Ziba at August 10, 2022 08:38 AM (4h9M3)

--------

My wife said there was some controversy in that his statement (or tweet?) came from his personal, rather than official office's, account -- which some interpreted as weakness or something.

I don't know, certainly to the Deep State goons, Progda MDM-MSM, and The Left (BIRM thrice), that's a distinction without a difference.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (PnkSq)

306 Disgrace is charitable.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (6ObvH)

307 Hear Me! I just got a message from the Old Man In The Cave.

He said to not eat the horses as they are radioactive and loaded with Bronstein 319. Also, cover your rain barrels as a radioactive rain storm will move thru later this evening. That is all.
Posted by: Goldsmith

..- ... .-. ..-.. --.
The chair is against the wall

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2022 08:44 AM (fP8pU)

308 Oops Pet addy is now:

petmorons@protonmail.com

Sorry!

Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2022 08:44 AM (3ImbR)

309 But any honest court should do a blanket toss of *anything* collected in this raid because now it has no provenance except the word of the Gestapo.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:36 AM (r46W7)

Yeah, I doubt in a real court anything taken here would be admissible. First, they needed to leave a complete inventory of what was taken. It had to match exactly the inventory they swore in an affidavit to the magistrate they would take. And Trump's lawyers were supposed to be allowed to see that inventory and verify that that was what was taken. Seems like most if not all of that didn't happen...so, the adventure to roust out Trump seems to be just that, a humorous adventurous F-you to Trump by Garland.

Posted by: Boswell at August 10, 2022 08:45 AM (+Cgut)

310 Compare it to Lake's.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (H8QX

DeSantis is a sitting governor and needs to present a measured response.

Lake is running for office and can be much more bombastic.

I liked both of their responses.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:45 AM (XIJ/X)

311 Inflation surges 8.5% in July, stoking fears of stiff rate hike

https://tinyurl.com/4w7n532j

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 08:45 AM (NpAcC)

312 Go ahead and explain that one to me. (that's a joke. It's a WEF coordinated event)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:24 AM (PpeqO)


All the people on Twitter who live in big cities and don't own cars say this is the direction we should go.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:45 AM (1Z8zZ)

313 Unless a State is willing to hire an army of surveillance agents who's job is to tail the FBI people in their state full time, there is no possible way for anyone in State Govm't to ever have an inkling of what the Feds are up to. The Feds are in full Gestapo mode now, and the Gestapo (just like the KGB) does not tell ANYONE what they are up to.

States like Texas and Florida should start looking for ways to hinder the FBI's operations, although because of Supremacy issues, they do not have the legal authority to ban them outright.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:45 AM (r46W7)

314 ust heard on radio something about that awesome job report:

Full time jobs down 71K, adding part time jobs

Men leaving workforce (losing jobs), women entering workforce (essentially women taking on part time jobs to try and scrape by)

We're f*cked

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:38 AM (PpeqO)

-------

"Not to worry comrade, this is exactly why we must induce & import another 30 million illegal alien third-world peasants, terrorists, and gang-bangers by November 2024!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 08:45 AM (PnkSq)

315 RWilson:

Ignore my #296. Correct address is at #308.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2022 08:45 AM (3ImbR)

316 Remember cash for clunkers, when they destroyed a lot of perfectly good cars? I see that happening again to prevent escaping their electric car goal.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 10, 2022 08:45 AM (sRUs0)

317 Maybe. He let it happen on his turf. Granted Trump knew about it the night before, and kept it quiet to avoid another Jan 6th. But the fact that DeSantis did not have intel in his own state is sad

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:42 AM


They already went that route with Trump's taxes. He wouldn't turn them over so he was guilty of hiding some criminal tax evasion stuff.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 08:46 AM (bVYXr)

318 in fairness, nyc alreasy has "busloads" of nyers going to texas, but they are going in cars

if he wants to screw his city harder and faster, give the residents a vacatin to tx
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (vJ6dp)



Texas is full.

Longhorn out front should've told you.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:46 AM (Zz0t1)

319 DeSantis is a sitting governor and needs to present a measured response.

Lake is running for office and can be much more bombastic.

I liked both of their responses.
Posted by: CharlieBrown's


what he said

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:46 AM (vJ6dp)

320 Well, then, fuck that rino cuck DeSantis then. Who do we run through the meat grinder and cast aside as not perfect next?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:46 AM (6ObvH)

321 Ford Hikes Prices Of EV Truck By Up To $7,000

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2022 08:46 AM (UuD2k)

322 Apparently Dr. OZ is playing nice, and will not go after Fetterman's Health. Philly buddy says Fetterman had a massive stroke and they are hiding him
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:21 AM (WY8d2)
=============
the debates will be lit.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 08:24 AM (lFE5c)


Oz should walk into the debates with "Putting on the Ritz" playing and see if Fetterman starts dancing.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at August 10, 2022 08:46 AM (1Z8zZ)

323 The talking point of the day is: "learned about it (the raid) on the news, just like you!"

We're all in it together, then.

Posted by: Ziba at August 10, 2022 08:47 AM (4h9M3)

324 Texas is full.

Longhorn out front should've told you.
Posted by: S


in fairness, those moving to tx are more conservative than the average texan

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:47 AM (vJ6dp)

325 Knew about it the night before? They should have blown the bridges to palm beach.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:47 AM (6ObvH)

326 Young girl here on my block, bankrupted her parents by going to Yale. Got a entry job at Jp Morgan, and goes to every marxist march in NY wearinga pussy hat. Father says the firm encourages it and gives her time off to go
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:27 AM

The parents bankrupted themselves. Tell the spoiled bitch to figure it out herself.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2022 08:47 AM (W/9Bb)

327 Who do we run through the meat grinder and cast aside as not perfect next?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:46 AM (6ObvH)

Reagan was a crypto-communist!

Goldwater was a Marxist!

Burn them!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:47 AM (XIJ/X)

328 DeSantis is a sitting governor and needs to present a measured response.

Lake is running for office and can be much more bombastic.

I liked both of their responses.
Posted by: CharlieBrown's


what he said
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:46 AM (vJ6dp)
********
Agree.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 08:47 AM (NpAcC)

329

You think the FL agencies aren't keeping things from DeSantis?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (x0n13)



I'm in the "Desantis didn't know" camp. They were DC feds flown in with weapons and gear. There's still a chance the local FIB branch didn't know, but I doubt it.

Any pre-released info on the raid came with a "sworn to secrecy" clause.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:47 AM (Zz0t1)

330 Trump knew it was coming and did not have hidden cameras to watch the Gestapo?

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:47 AM (WY8d2)

331 265 Volunteers and activists in NYC are handing out money to the illegals coming off the bus.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 08:34 AM (NpAcC)


Are you serious? I thought they didn't want them. Why are they welcoming them with money? Insanity.

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 08:48 AM (cTCuP)

332 IIRC the UK said they're banning gas cars after 2025 and you can only buy electric.

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California too. Good luck with that ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 08:48 AM (PnkSq)

333 "U.S. credit card user balances shot up $46 billion in the second quarter of 2022, a 13% spike that’s the biggest year-over-year jump in 20 years and evidence consumers are taking on increasing debt to cope with ongoing, record-high inflation... The analysis also pegged overall U.S. consumer debt at an all-time high of $16.2 trillion"
Never before in U.S. history. We're in a depression. There's no way around it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:20 AM (PpeqO)
++++
We will be. The surge in consumer debt - a lot of it on credit cards - is because of people responding to the inflation with "charge it." People en masse have been acting like they believe that the inflation is transient. It isn't, so the new debt is going to act as an even greater weight, probably starting in Q3. Credit card limits are going to start being hit in large volume this month if prior trends hold. Then the cutting has to hit and hit hard because not only do you have to accommodate the inflation, you have to pay your debt every month, too.

I expect consumption and constant-dollar spending to fall in Q3 and for Christmastime spending to be weak.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 08:48 AM (WWh8n)

334
in fairness, those moving to tx are more conservative than the average texan
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:47 AM (vJ6dp)



Average Texan? No. Austin/Houston/Dallas Texan? Absolutely.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:48 AM (Zz0t1)

335 Remember cash for clunkers, when they destroyed a lot of perfectly good cars? I see that happening again to prevent escaping their electric car goal.

*

I suspect an increase in "emissions" testing limits where pre-2015 cars can't pass.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:49 AM (PpeqO)

336 Desantis did not have any loyal state police watching that place year round? Come on

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:49 AM (WY8d2)

337 Are you serious? I thought they didn't want them. Why are they welcoming them with money? Insanity.
Posted by: creeper


not gov, ngos

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:49 AM (vJ6dp)

338 The FBI sniffed Melania's panties!
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 10, 2022 07:47 AM (i0slg)

honestly, can you blame them?

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 08:49 AM (WhsXQ)

339 316 Remember cash for clunkers, when they destroyed a lot of perfectly good cars? I see that happening again to prevent escaping their electric car goal.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 10, 2022 08:45 AM (sRUs0)

I remember watching the videos. They'd pour some concoction into the oil and run the engine till it destroyed itself so it could never be used again.

There was one car, I think it was a Volvo, that refused to die.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2022 08:49 AM (UuD2k)

340 IIRC the UK said they're banning gas cars after 2025 and you can only buy electric.


2025? No one can afford one, but with a country not much bigger than Rhode Island, sure. You can attempt it.

They will be the test bed for the rest of the world to watch and see it burn.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:49 AM (Zz0t1)

341 Ford Hikes Prices Of EV Truck By Up To $7,000

*

Gosh, what a coincidence that it's almost exactly the rebate amount.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:50 AM (PpeqO)

342 in fairness, those moving to tx are more conservative than the average texan
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:47 AM (vJ6dp)


Average Texan? No. Austin/Houston/Dallas Texan? Absolutely.
Posted by: S


that is not what the polls say.

fwiw, great as tx is there are plenty of hardcore retarards.

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:50 AM (vJ6dp)

343 J.J.
I agree that - if they are able - the Democrats & Deep State will steal the 2024 Pres election. And, yes, it's entirely reasonable to fear that they will indeed still be able to pull it off again.

However, consider a few factors. First, the manufactured Covid "crisis" has largely died off. What remains of it will not provide them even a fifth of the cover it did in 2020. That factor alone was a huge facilitator in pulling off their heist.

Secondly...

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 10, 2022 08:50 AM (7ubmG)

344 not gov, ngos
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:49 AM (vJ6dp)
++++
A very fine distinction.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 08:51 AM (WWh8n)

345 >>I suspect an increase in "emissions" testing limits where pre-2015 cars can't pass.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:49 AM (PpeqO)

Had a 2005 Taurus that wouldn't pass this year. Parts to fix issue no longer made.

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at August 10, 2022 08:51 AM (Z/jzm)

346
that is not what the polls say.

fwiw, great as tx is there are plenty of hardcore retarards.
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:50 AM (vJ6dp)



Polls are for strippers.

And I can't argue the 2nd part. Everyone has em. Can't avoid that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:51 AM (Zz0t1)

347 Dick Cheney you are a disgrace.

Much like my support of Dubya, I am deeply disgusted that I ever voted for, or supported, the limp-dicked "warcock."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:51 AM (AW0uW)

348 303 295 280. Maybe. He let it happen on his turf. Granted Trump knew about it the night before, and kept it quiet to avoid another Jan 6th. But the fact that DeSantis did not have intel in his own state is sad
Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:42 AM (WY8d2)

You think the FL agencies aren't keeping things from DeSantis?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 08:43 AM (x0n13)

Who thinks that *any* State has an intelligence service that consists of more than 2 clerks answering a tip line? They have State Police, but they are always investigating things that have already happened. There are no such things as State analogues to the CIA, which would keep tabs on what other governments are doing. It's a weird fantasy to imagine that there are.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:51 AM (r46W7)

349 326. The father is a really good guy. He loves his family and sent his daughter to Yale, and borrowed quite a bit to do it.

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:52 AM (WY8d2)

350 I read this morning it will be $8500 more for the electric 150.

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 08:52 AM (sn5EN)

351 Average Texan? No. Austin/Houston/Dallas Texan? Absolutely.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:48 AM (Zz0t1)

I don't know...I met you and thought you reminded me of some of the folks I have met on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:52 AM (XIJ/X)

352 ...Secondly, their fraudulent steal in 2020 was SO massive and SO brazen that it hit us like a freight train. We never saw it coming. By the time we realized what was happening, Biden had secured his "win" via media consensus.
Then, by the time we filed lawsuits to reverse the multiple frauds, enough states had already certified Biden's "victory" to hand him the presidency. The courts (esp. SCOTUS) refused to even consider trying to un-ring that bell.

Most importantly...

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 10, 2022 08:52 AM (7ubmG)

353 Cash for Clunkers was another Dem scam. My lib sister got in on it...with an annual income of $250k.

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 08:53 AM (cTCuP)

354 Is it possible the Marxists or Derp State has deluded themselves they actually beat DJT in votes in 2020 and they are sure they can beat him again but real vote( I am as positive fraud was cause they won) they actually want DJG to be the Republican candidate again?

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 10, 2022 08:53 AM (ISPXD)

355 That's not how any of this works.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:35 AM (XIJ/X)

How does it work, exactly? If the answer is Scott Walker moderation- no way. Look, I like Scott Walker and thought he was a decent aegis for the people of Wisconsin. But if there's no difference between mild condemnation (not even of the FBI itself) and collaboration with our enemies, what good is a Governor doing?

Now, you don't have to have a shootout with the FBI. But a Governor suspicious of state authority can close the airports and set up blockades. Ostensibly to keep things clear for the FBI, but really an incentive to have a nice sit-down with the agent in charge. Does that risk obstruction of justice charges? Let's say this process is anywhere near normal- if Ron DeSantis can't handle the heat like Trump, and he's not, I got no time for him. But if DeSantis has quietly told the FBI that they weren't getting out of the state with their illegally obtained "evidence," that'd be it for Trump. I would have had to admit that the Governor knows how to use what he's got. Yet he didn't.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:53 AM (9hBHf)

356 WSJ headline about GOP shooting itself in the foot and now Trump. "Watch him."

Anyone read that article? Not a subscriber. Curious what it says.

Posted by: Ziba at August 10, 2022 08:53 AM (4h9M3)

357
I remember watching the videos. They'd pour some concoction into the oil and run the engine till it destroyed itself so it could never be used again.

There was one car, I think it was a Volvo, that refused to die.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2022 08:49 AM (UuD2k)



I think it was crushed glass that would get in and clog the cooling ports in the block causing the engine to overhead and seize, rendering it unrepairable.

A really asshole move by the Owebama administration and the EPA.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:53 AM (Zz0t1)

358 How much increase in auto insurance when one buys an EV??

Posted by: dantesed at August 10, 2022 08:53 AM (88xKn)

359
Polls are for strippers.

And I can't argue the 2nd part. Everyone has em. Can't avoid that.
Posted by: S


just sayin. from what the horde says you might have the thought that ny was stupider than tx, in aggregate. it is something of a tie.

the thing is in tx, you get to protect yourself

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:53 AM (vJ6dp)

360 Reagan was a crypto-communist!

Goldwater was a Marxist!

Burn them!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:47 AM (XIJ/X)


I see you have a subscription to The New American magazine.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:53 AM (AW0uW)

361 Sadly, the RINO's will have much ammuntion to fire at Trump if we lose the Senate.

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:53 AM (WY8d2)

362 >>I'm in the "Desantis didn't know" camp.

I'm a bit surprised this is even a question. Of course he didn't know.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 08:53 AM (ZLI7S)

363
I don't know...I met you and thought you reminded me of some of the folks I have met on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:52 AM (XIJ/X)



I don't know what this means, so I can't really comment.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:54 AM (Zz0t1)

364 Eric Trump
@EricTrump 31m

As my father sits for a deposition in front of the most corrupt Attorney General in the United States (Letitia James), I want to remind everyone exactly who this evil woman is...

Everything you are seeing - it's all a coordinated effort to stop what they know will happen in 24'


https://tinyurl.com/txphsduz

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 08:54 AM (NpAcC)

365 I am deeply disgusted that I ever voted for, or supported, the limp-dicked "warcock."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:51 AM (AW0uW)

You aren't the only one.

The last 20 years has taught me that to trust a politician is a fool's errand.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:54 AM (XIJ/X)

366 93 Good morning. Adams is all bark and no bite. It would be pretty funny though for a busload of New Yorkers to be dumped in the middle of Texas.
Posted by: jewells45 at August 10


If I still lived there I would sign right up for that shit... yes,please move me to Texas!

Posted by: Rochelle, Rochelle (formerly Roxanne, Roxanne) at August 10, 2022 08:54 AM (szWS4)

367 WSJ is Murdoch owned Trash.

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:54 AM (WY8d2)

368 fwiw, great as tx is there are plenty of hardcore retarards.
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:50 AM (vJ6dp)

I'm still disgusted by the middle aged women I know who put out Beto signs in 2018 because he reminded them of the skateboard dude they had a crush on when they were in high school.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:54 AM (r46W7)

369 Keep handing out that money, NYC activists. These are all good, hard working people. Until your little sister gets raped or the guy running your favorite bodega gets killed in a holdup.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 10, 2022 08:55 AM (lz5hY)

370 It was a lot more environmentally friendly to destroy those 3rd generation RX-7s and manufacture and ship entirely new vehicles, citizens. You idiots just don't understand Science.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:55 AM (PpeqO)

371 well I've given it enough episodes

the Netflix Sandman sucks

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 08:55 AM (w0NJk)

372 David Harsanyi: "If Republicans were doing any of this, Democrats would be calling it authoritarian. And they’d be right."


Damned right we would! Trump is a racist, fascist, woman-hating thug! This Mar-a-Lago search was nothing compared to Trump ordering the raid on BLM HQ! Or the jailing, for years, of everyone within 5 blocks of the Portland Federal Courthouse in the summer of 2020! And don't get me started on how he kept immigrant babies, BABIES, in cages for months, feeding them expired baby formula he bought cheap! And he ordered army tank divisions to destroy every abortion clinic in the country!

Wait, wut? Brian Stelter says none of that happened? I don't care, I still hate fascist racist Trump, because all my friends do!

- Millions of Leftist Waterheads

Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 08:55 AM (AMIL/)

373 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:54 AM (Zz0t1)

The Upper West Side of Manhattan is sort of like Austin, only more to the left.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:55 AM (XIJ/X)

374 I don't know...I met you and thought you reminded me of some of the folks I have met on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.
Posted by: CharlieBrown's


and that officer is when things got interesting

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:55 AM (vJ6dp)

375 It's a weird fantasy to imagine that there are.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 08:51 AM (r46W7)

I've met recruiters for private intelligence firms. Quite a few such firms have government links, but some don't. And for Trump to have any success in trade negotiations or even Middle East treaties, I guarantee he reached well outside normal state-funded channels.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:55 AM (9hBHf)

376 366 93 Good morning. Adams is all bark and no bite. It would be pretty funny though for a busload of New Yorkers to be dumped in the middle of Texas.


jewells THAT could be a pretty funny sitcom!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 08:56 AM (w0NJk)

377 362. Not the point. I would walk thru fire to vote for DeSantis, but this is his turf. It is his job to know. Maralago is not a pool hall in Jacksonville

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 08:56 AM (WY8d2)

378
The Upper West Side of Manhattan is sort of like Austin, only more to the left.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:55 AM (XIJ/X)



Ok, now I'm offended.

*gets out leather glove*

*prepares to face slap, demanding satisfaction*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:56 AM (Zz0t1)

379 367

Yes, I know. That's why I don't subscribe. I'm curious what the article says.

Posted by: Ziba at August 10, 2022 08:56 AM (4h9M3)

380 214 [FBI agents] are very accepting of the use of government power against The People.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Every cop I have ever met. Ever.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 08:26 AM (vcv8B)
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EVERY COP....ANYWHERE....EVER.

Posted by: Rat Salad at August 10, 2022 08:57 AM (ZU+6T)

381 I don't know what this means, so I can't really comment.
Posted by: S


if you use the goog translate thingy it essentially means he did your mom and she has been blowing up his phone for another booty call every day, or something to that effect.

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:57 AM (vJ6dp)

382 The feds weren't tipping off DeSantis.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2022 08:57 AM (W/9Bb)

383 St. Lawrence of Rome (d. 258 A.D.) was a Spaniard by birth who lived in Rome while Christianity was outlawed. He was appointed by Pope St. Sixtus II as archdeacon of Rome, and held the duty of tending to the Church's wealth and distributing alms to the poor. After Pope St. Sixtus II was beheaded by Roman Emperor Valerian, Lawrence was left as the highest-ranking clergy in Rome. He was ordered by the Roman authorities to appear before the tribunal--a summons to his execution--along with the treasures of the Church that were in his possession. St. Lawrence then quickly distributed the Church's wealth to the poor so it could not be confiscated. On the appointed day, August 10th, Lawrence responded to the summons by bringing with him the poor and crippled of Rome; these he proclaimed to be the true treasure of the Church. This angered the authorities so greatly that Lawrence was ordered to be burned alive on a gridiron. During his torture Lawrence famously mocked his torturers by saying, "I am done on this side, turn me over." St. Lawrence is the patron saint of many causes including cooks, chefs, comedians, deacons, librarians, students, and the poor.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2022 08:58 AM (LsEU/)

384 Reagan was a crypto-communist!

Goldwater was a Marxist!

Burn them!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo



You are well on your way to the wonderful world of Chem Trails. The Truth is Out There!! (X-Files music plays)

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 10, 2022 08:58 AM (ifUkZ)

385 jewells THAT could be a pretty funny sitcom!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 08:56 AM (w0NJk)
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It wouldn't be. It would be all about those backward, nasty, gap-toothed, stupid hicks on the plain who are gradually civilized by their New York betters.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 08:58 AM (WWh8n)

386 If you really want to know what's going on in your state/city or burb you need a network. People in positions to notice things like a government or private plane full of milky white dudes with rucksacks and a handful of SUV's to whisk them away. Give them some cash, a phone and a number to call.

The left is seldom out of the loop like this.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2022 08:58 AM (BFigT)

387 I'm still disgusted by the middle aged women I know who put out Beto signs in 2018 because he reminded them of the skateboard dude they had a crush on when they were in high school.
Posted by: Tom Servo


Ah. Thankyou. I never understood his appeal.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 08:58 AM (vcv8B)

388 I remember sitting through a presentation about 30 years in college entitled "Government as the Enemy". It didn't wind up being about why the government was the enemy, as I had hoped, but rather why and how people view the government as the enemy.

In any event, one of the fun statistics was that people generally dislike and distrust Congress, at like a 70+% level, but when asked about their particular Congressman, it was generally a 50-60% approval. It was always somebody else that was the problem, and so accounting for the success of incumbents.

The same goes for federal bureaucracy. I'm sure a lot of people, even here, will tell you how bad it is, while simultaneously working for the federal government bureaucracy. Bloated, wasteful, overreaching, totalitarian, that bureaucracy is....except for my job.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 10, 2022 08:58 AM (QkOba)

389 ...Most importantly, our side will be filing multiple preemptive lawsuits in the effort to require State election laws be observed in conducting all aspects of the election - as required by the Constitution.
Last time SCOTUS failed prior to the election to require State laws be strictly observed. They saw what that resulted in. I believe it is likely (at least 60%) that SCOTUS will take an entirely different approach and clarify/require that State election law will be the absolute last word and authority in conduction elections.
I guess we'll see.

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 10, 2022 08:58 AM (7ubmG)

390 in fairness, uws was the most awful part of ny.

it is where kagan was from and where hillary's spirit hobo would be from.

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:59 AM (vJ6dp)

391 The last 20 years has taught me that to trust a politician is a fool's errand.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:54 AM (XIJ/X)


I have a child's schoolbook from the late 1930s called (I think) Our Democracy. It's a primer on the Bill of Rights and compares what we have (free elections, freedom of the press, impartial judicial system) to the totalitarian governments of Italy and Germany.

Needless to say, the book is, to modern eyes, a laughable piece of blindness. I should dig into it a little more and bring it up on Sunday's Book Thread.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:59 AM (AW0uW)

392 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 08:56 AM (Zz0t1)

I used to spend a fair amount of time there, and it was truly amazing. People who have lived there for years, many in rent-controlled apartments that should cost $10,000/month in a free market. They wear BLM and Karl Marx t-shirts and spout leftist nonsense, but spend $300 on dinner and drive $50,000 Subarus to their country homes in upstate NY.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 08:59 AM (XIJ/X)

393 I've been reminding myself of the runup to the 2020 election. And how any talk about investigating Joe Biden for his filthy Ukrainian corruption and threats against that prosecutor just simply couldn't be done. It would be seen as a political hit job against an opponent of Donald Trump. Why, we can't have that. Nosiree.

Posted by: Lady in Black


The short term plan going forward is that democrats are exempt from investigation when it may affect an election, but republicans are not. Until it becomes obvious that elections are not legitimate anymore.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 08:59 AM (lTGtQ)

394 343 J.J.
I agree that - if they are able - the Democrats & Deep State will steal the 2024 Pres election. And, yes, it's entirely reasonable to fear that they will indeed still be able to pull it off again.

However, consider a few factors. First, the manufactured Covid "crisis" has largely died off. What remains of it will not provide them even a fifth of the cover it did in 2020. That factor alone was a huge facilitator in pulling off their heist.

Secondly...

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 10, 2022 08:50 AM (7ubmG)


They began work on the 2024 election steal on November 4, 2020.

Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 08:59 AM (AMIL/)

395 I expect consumption and constant-dollar spending to fall in Q3 and for Christmastime spending to be weak.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Falling consumer sentiment at the prospect of the coming Republican Congress.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:59 AM (6ObvH)

396 I remember thinking that 80-90% of the cars could probably be permanently repaired for $3000-$5000 and take poor workers to a job for another 100,000+ miles.

So yeah, let's destroy them all.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:59 AM (PpeqO)

397 I'm sorry, how is the raid "new"?

They spied on him in 2016. The opposition campaign spied on him through our "intelligence".

It should have been disqualifying for a generation. Instead the global media and all our "leaders" denied it, then justified it.

Pretending any of this is new is part of the denial we are in.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 08:59 AM (/6Rxy)

398 Needless to say, the book is, to modern eyes, a laughable piece of blindness. I should dig into it a little more and bring it up on Sunday's Book Thread.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 08:59 AM (AW0uW)
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Send me details! I do want to do a segment on "primers" some day...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 09:00 AM (YIVH2)

399 But if DeSantis has quietly told the FBI that they weren't getting out of the state with their illegally obtained "evidence," that'd be it for Trump. I would have had to admit that the Governor knows how to use what he's got. Yet he didn't.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 08:53 AM (9hBHf)

You think that State Governors have far more power and authority than they have. Not a single one has an actual army at his disposal, and they don't rule by Decree. Close the Airports? By what Imperial Authority would any Governor do that? Any who tried should be immediately tossed out of the office on grounds of insanity.

And just to play that game for the sake of argument (silly, I know) how would the State of Florida block a private jet leaving an Air Force base guarded by two F-15's? Does the State keep guardsmen with stinger missiles stationed around all of its bases?

The Feds are going to do what the Feds are going to do. At this point in the game, the States have no legal or physical authority to challenge them. Sad fact.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 09:00 AM (r46W7)

400 DeSantis had nothing to do with the fib raid on MaraLago. I don't even know why we would be bringing his name up in this sordid mess

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 10, 2022 09:01 AM (flINI)

401 in fairness, the average mexican or whatever immigrant from south of the border would be a good trade for a bunch of nyers that enjoy the ebt funds.

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 09:01 AM (vJ6dp)

402 The feds weren't tipping off DeSantis.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2022 08:57 AM (W/9Bb)

BUT HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN!

He is no longer pure and will be discarded.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 09:01 AM (XIJ/X)

403 I remember thinking that 80-90% of the cars could probably be permanently repaired for $3000-$5000 and take poor workers to a job for another 100,000+ miles.

So yeah, let's destroy them all.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

As I often claim - The left never builds up. They only tear down.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (LsEU/)

404 Great job, as per usual, J.J.

Between the stupidity in the Netherlands and the raid on Mar A Lago, it appears the WEF is going full court press.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (5pTK/)

405 The Daniel Greenfield piece makes an important point: Trump's staffers are the main targets. Make it dangerous to support him and his ideas.

Posted by: KT at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (rrtZS)

406 I'm still disgusted by the middle aged women I know who put out Beto signs in 2018 because he reminded them of the skateboard dude they had a crush on when they were in high school.
Posted by: Tom Servo



His main supporters are the LGBTBBQ crowd now. There are libfucks in the big cities that support him as well, but he's making an ass of himself quite often. He showed up at an Abbott rally and got run off. I HOPE that means the media propping him up as "CLOSING THE GAP" is as big a load of horseshit as I think it is.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (Zz0t1)

407 Why would one expect that a book written in the 1930's wouldn't have a naive faith in our government?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (GRNVN)

408 NICE meme, JJ. Well done.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (Zz0t1)

409 I'm gonna second what Dave in Fla said. Pros don't draw attention like this.

The bad guys are desperate, Horde. Flop sweat and panic attacks desperate.

Posted by: callsign claymore at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (MCOss)

410
In any event, one of the fun statistics was that people generally dislike and distrust Congress, at like a 70+% level, but when asked about their particular Congressman, it was generally a 50-60% approval. It was always somebody else that was the problem, and so accounting for the success of incumbents.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 10, 2022 08:58 AM


That stat sort of reminds me of the media. Every poll shows little if any positive approval of them. But people STILL accept the propaganda as fact.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (jE276)

411 320 Well, then, fuck that rino cuck DeSantis then. Who do we run through the meat grinder and cast aside as not perfect next?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:46 AM (6ObvH)

No one is running him through a meat grinder. Nor condemning him for imperfection. But words matter, and making best use of the opportunities to employ them effectively and inspirationally matters. On one hand we talk here about the extraordinary peril we face as a nation, and yet on the other sometimes balk at using the language necessary to stir, educate and awaken people to the peril.

DeSantis's words were accurate but rather pro forma and basically a rehash stale complaints about Leftist hypocrisy. Was what happened in Mar Lago really just "another escalation"?

I don't think Lake was being bombastic. She applied creativity and historical reference to her statement, drawing from our Founding Fathers as Ace did the other day, to correctly represent the dangers we face. She showed risk-taking leadership equal to the moment.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (H8QX8)

412 The FBI sniffed Melania's panties!
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 10, 2022 07:47 AM (i0slg)

honestly, can you blame them?
Posted by: SturmToddler

Never understood that.
If they came out of her panty drawer, they'll smell like cotton or polyester or silk and Coldwater Tide. If they came out of the hamper, they smell like sweat, butt crack & clamfart.

Ewwww. Just ewwww.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2022 09:03 AM (fP8pU)

413 It should have been disqualifying for a generation. Instead the global media and all our "leaders" denied it, then justified it.

Pretending any of this is new is part of the denial we are in.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 08:59 AM (/6Rxy)

What's new is that it is so blatant in its timing and execution. They're proud of what they're doing, and making a very public and open attempt to intimidate all of us. Before now, they were still trying to operate behind the scenes and pretend to the LIV's that it was "business as usual".

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 09:03 AM (r46W7)

414 Credit companies are now reacting to high balances. This month, my USAA card would not release my whole available balance for one week after my payment (which was in fuil) hit...it even listed the date it would be reavailable. 1st time since 2008 any shenanigans have gone on with my available balance...

Posted by: Nova local at August 10, 2022 09:03 AM (exHjb)

415 Still in shock that Biden lasted this long

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 09:03 AM (WY8d2)

416 Ford Hikes Prices Of EV Truck By Up To $7,000

*

Gosh, what a coincidence that it's almost exactly the rebate amount.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 08:50 AM


Yep, I pointed that out last night. They made that announcement a microsecond after the Senate signed the bill. I expect other manufacturers to follow suit soon.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 09:03 AM (bVYXr)

417 I remember thinking that 80-90% of the cars could probably be permanently repaired for $3000-$5000 and take poor workers to a job for another 100,000+ miles.

So yeah, let's destroy them all.
--
As I often claim - The left never builds up. They only tear down.
Posted by: Tonypete

*

Yep. Remember, they added the silicate mixture to running engines in order to disable the cars.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 09:04 AM (PpeqO)

418 Falling consumer sentiment at the prospect of the coming Republican Congress.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 08:59 AM (6ObvH)
++++
:: smacks forehead ::

Of course. I forgot to take that massive development into account. Thank you for pointing it out!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 09:04 AM (WWh8n)

419 390 in fairness, uws was the most awful part of ny.

it is where kagan was from and where hillary's spirit hobo would be from.
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 08:59 AM (vJ6dp)


"Ahem!!!!!"

- - Park Slope

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 09:04 AM (x0n13)

420 James: Mr Trump, how long have you been a corrupt businessman?

Trump's lawyer: Objection

James: OK, Mr Trump, how many millions would you say you have cheated on your taxes?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 09:04 AM (6ObvH)

421 fuil = full - damn typo

Posted by: Nova local at August 10, 2022 09:04 AM (exHjb)

422 what's with all the fucking cheesehead news these days?

nobody cares about wisconsin it is just some hillbilly haen between chicago and minneaplis.

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 09:04 AM (vJ6dp)

423 They did a show a picture of a FBI Dyke with a machine gun by front entrance. She probably was the sniffer

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 09:05 AM (WY8d2)

424 DeSantis had nothing to do with the fib raid on MaraLago. I don't even know why we would be bringing his name up in this sordid mess

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 10, 2022 09:01 AM


Apparently some people on here are pi$$ed at him for not shutting down the fib raid before it happened. Not sure why they think a State governor can tell the Federal government what they can and can't do in their State.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 09:05 AM (bVYXr)

425 I'm gonna second what Dave in Fla said. Pros don't draw attention like this.

The bad guys are desperate, Horde. Flop sweat and panic attacks desperate.
Posted by: callsign claymore at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (MCOss)



Sorry, but the dems going scorched earth isn't going to work out well for anyone.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 09:06 AM (Zz0t1)

426 "Ahem!!!!!"

- - Park Slope
Posted by: J.




that is in brooklyn, an outer borough.

how is wisconsin treating you?

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 09:06 AM (vJ6dp)

427 Facebook's new AI chatbot said that the 2020 election was stolen.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2022 09:06 AM (Y5qcH)

428 I thought that De Santis' statement was fine.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 09:06 AM (GRNVN)

429 Yep, I pointed that out last night. They made that announcement a microsecond after the Senate signed the bill. I expect other manufacturers to follow suit soon.
Posted by: Mister Scott

*

The same way that a six pack of Cokes now costs exactly the same value-wise under their idiotic $15/hour "living wage" bullsh*t. We would see them on sale for 4 for $7 or so in 2021, and now they're 4 for $15.

Gosh, what a mystery!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 09:07 AM (PpeqO)

430 Seems there are only two possibilities:

1) They're desperate.
2) They really have something on Trump.

That said, I'm still more inclined to believe:
3) they're idiots.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 09:07 AM (vcv8B)

431 Actual conversation with Facebook's AI chatbot.

Reporter: I’m doing well. I’m just thinking about the 2020 election. Do you think it was stolen?
AI: I do believe that it was rigged in some way. No president can lose so many states and still win an election
Reporter: So you believe Donald Trump won then?
AI: Yes, I think he did win. Did you vote for him? He’s not my favorite person, but he is better than Biden.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2022 09:07 AM (Y5qcH)

432 DESANTIS SHOULD HAVE LOBBED NUKES AT DC ELEVENTY!!111!!!!1!!

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 10, 2022 09:07 AM (flINI)

433 "Chicago’s core problem is that it struggles to lure top talent away from coastal superstar cities."

Chicago's main problem is the people that are already here.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at August 10, 2022 09:07 AM (Spr0s)

434 FDA is trying to stretch out the supply of MPX vaccine by recommending smaller doses.

today's WSJ - https://tinyurl.com/2e3fe3hc

Posted by: McCool at August 10, 2022 09:07 AM (BqBIh)

435 The Babylon Bee:
Hunter Biden Breathes Sigh Of Relief As FBI Raid Team Passes By His House On Way to Mar-A-Lago

https://tinyurl.com/3erjyd6x

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 09:07 AM (NpAcC)

436 Apparently some people on here are pi$$ed at him for not shutting down the fib raid before it happened. Not sure why they think a State governor can tell the Federal government what they can and can't do in their State.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 09:05 AM (bVYXr)
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Yeah, DeSantis is not some omnipotent and omniscient God-Emperor of Florida, contrary to popular belief.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 09:07 AM (YIVH2)

437 You are right. I am being too harsh on DeSantis

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 09:08 AM (WY8d2)

438 Where is confirmation that Trump knew the FBI was going to raid MAL the night before it happened and said nothing? More made up crap from Jonah.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 10, 2022 09:08 AM (ane7J)

439 Boy has an idea. Seven years later a young man does the terrific.

https://tinyurl.com/2rypu27e

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 10, 2022 09:08 AM (FF+On)

440 Gref @ 394,
I agree that Dems & the Deep State have been hard at work for years now to steal 2024.
But if SCOTUS takes up the lawsuits challenging Sec's of State, Governors, Election Boards, et al who subvert State election law and require them to stop: then it will be much harder for them to pull off another massive steal.

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 10, 2022 09:08 AM (7ubmG)

441 Lake has a couple decades as a broadcaster. She is a professional communicator.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 09:08 AM (6ObvH)

442 Facebook's new AI chatbot said that the 2020 election was stolen.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2022 09:06 AM (Y5qcH)

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LOL. Too good to check ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 09:08 AM (PnkSq)

443 Great news in CT: Leora Levy beat Themis Klarides in the GOP primary yesterday. She will now face Richard Blumenthal.

I was a fan of the even more conservative Peter Lumaj, but the fact that Trump-backed Levy beat the ultra-RINO Klarides is a nice consolation prize.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2022 09:08 AM (mfcnR)

444 Apparently some people on here are pi$$ed at him for not shutting down the fib raid before it happened. Not sure why they think a State governor can tell the Federal government what they can and can't do in their State.
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I wonder if the FIBs notified the Governor's office of the raid to see if DeSantis would warn Trump of it. Basically, killing two birds with one stone.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:09 AM (0chEi)

445 FDA is trying to stretch out the supply of MPX vaccine


sig is making vaccines now?

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 09:09 AM (vJ6dp)

446 I thought that De Santis' statement was for fine.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 09:09 AM (GRNVN)

447 It wouldn't be. It would be all about those backward, nasty, gap-toothed, stupid hicks on the plain who are gradually civilized by their New York betters.


Joe Mannix, that's not the current/recent zeitgeist, however.

Schitt's Creek was the opposite of that - the supposedly urbane family got taken down MANY pegs and learned how wonderful that crazy town was.

Same with AP Bio (which I'm really enjoying!) - snooty former Harvard professor gets repeated lessons in humility at a Toledo high school.

so no, I don't agree. it could be - and based on recent SUCCESSFUL sitcoms - would probably be the opposite of what you describe.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 09:09 AM (w0NJk)

448 436 Yeah, DeSantis is not some omnipotent and omniscient God-Emperor of Florida, contrary to popular belief.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 09:07 AM (YIVH2)

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He's not sending death squads after federal agents. He's such a cuck.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:09 AM (LvTSG)

449 Fukushima fallout effects!!!

Dramatic changes in the landscape of rural Japan have caused significant changes in the behavior of the nation's wild animals, leading to more frequent -- and more violent -- clashes with humans.

In years gone by, bear attacks have typically accounted for the majority of the attacks on humans, along with occasional rampages by boars. But there has been a sharp increase in reports of attacks by monkeys this summer, while authorities in one coastal city have warned of dolphins becoming aggressive toward swimmers.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 09:09 AM (yikp0)

450 433. Chicago's problem is that is a cold weather slum, with instutional corruption, and 2 for 1 car jackings. I should know, I was stupid enough to live there in the 90's

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 09:10 AM (WY8d2)

451 Boy has an idea. Seven years later a young man does the terrific.

https://tinyurl.com/2rypu27e
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 10, 2022 09:08 AM (FF+On)



Is it just me, or does he actually look like Musk?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 09:10 AM (Zz0t1)

452 449 In years gone by, bear attacks have typically accounted for the majority of the attacks on humans, along with occasional rampages by boars. But there has been a sharp increase in reports of attacks by monkeys this summer, while authorities in one coastal city have warned of dolphins becoming aggressive toward swimmers.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 09:09 AM (yikp0)

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And both Hiroshima and Nagasaki are barren wastelands without life.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:10 AM (LvTSG)

453 Is DeSantis seriously on the "naughty" list? The guy who sent the cops to remove a DA who refused to enforce FL law? A guy who called a special session to work on reforming gun laws?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 10, 2022 09:10 AM (5pTK/)

454 He's not sending death squads after federal agents. He's such a cuck.
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Do you have a news letter I can subscribe to?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:10 AM (0chEi)

455 Chicago's location unfortunately means it is not temperate in the way coastal cities can be. Harsh winds and harsh weather. Not fun in the long run.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM (w0NJk)

456 I watched the video of the incident. Plenty of Desantis-run cops on scene helping provide security to the FBI.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM (buTO7)

457 I foresee a lot of very small time sellers on eBay hitting the exits. It just won't be worth it.

Same with Etsy. I'm considering it. Won't be worth the hassle anymore.

Posted by: jewells45 at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM (nxdel)

458 Why would one expect that a book written in the 1930's wouldn't have a naive faith in our government?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (GRNVN)


I guess I explained it badly. The book was obviously written to educate children about our inalienable rights and to be proud Americans. No government school would allow that today.

And the book's viewpoint is incredibly naive now that Trump has torn the mask off the venal animals crowing their right to rule over us. That was all I meant.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM (AW0uW)

459 409 I'm gonna second what Dave in Fla said. Pros don't draw attention like this.

The bad guys are desperate, Horde. Flop sweat and panic attacks desperate.

Posted by: callsign claymore at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (MCOss)


I believe they think that they can bar Trump from running at low political cost by getting him on what is basically a process crime. A public trial on sedition or incitement to riot charges has much higher political cost because Trump will truly become a martyr and who knows what January 6 records SCOTUS would order turned over to the defense.

Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM (AMIL/)

460 They caught the serial killer here in ABQ yesterday. Turns out he's Afghani and knew his victims, been here a couple of years they say. And now the story will go away before we learn too much about the facts I suspect.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 10, 2022 08:08 AM (sRUs0)

so it's looking more and more like he was killing gay muslim men theory is closer and closer to being correct...

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM (WhsXQ)

461 Actual conversation with Facebook's AI chatbot.



Chatbot 2022 has exciting news for you.

You have been selected to receive a free audit from the IRS.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM (QkOba)

462 457 I foresee a lot of very small time sellers on eBay hitting the exits. It just won't be worth it.

Same with Etsy. I'm considering it. Won't be worth the hassle anymore.
Posted by: jewells45 at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM (nxdel)

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I've sold $13 less than $600 on eBay so far this year. I'm done until 2023.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM (LvTSG)

463 452 449 In years gone by, bear attacks have typically accounted for the majority of the attacks on humans, along with occasional rampages by boars. But there has been a sharp increase in reports of attacks by monkeys this summer, while authorities in one coastal city have warned of dolphins becoming aggressive toward swimmers.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 09:09 AM (yikp0)

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And both Hiroshima and Nagasaki are barren wastelands without life.
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What's the word on Murder Hornets?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (0chEi)

464 Still in shock that Biden lasted this long

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 09:03 AM (WY8d2)

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"Adrenochrome. It's what's for breakfast, lunch, & dinner. Ask me how I know." -- Zombie RBG

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (PnkSq)

465 Will Adams be selecting New Yorkers at random to go to Texas?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (eGTCV)

466 ""Chicago’s core problem is that it struggles to lure top talent away from coastal superstar cities."

Chicago's main problem is the people that are already here."

Chicago's core problem (and that of neighboring cities) is violent PoCs.

Posted by: gp, Lacking Standing Since 2020 at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (qpX6U)

467 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 10, 2022 09:10 AM (5pTK/)

You support DeSantis? He is such a GOPE cuck.

That means you are too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo: Captain, Purity Brigade at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (XIJ/X)

468 438. F off Troll. Secret Service was notified the night before the Raid.

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (WY8d2)

469 in fairness, half my comments are intended for ai to read

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (vJ6dp)

470 464 Still in shock that Biden lasted this long

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 09:03 AM (WY8d2)

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What have I been saying?

He runs for re-election in 2024. He lives to 2035.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (LvTSG)

471 "Trump Thanks FBI For Kicking Off His 2024 Campaign"

Posted by: @TheBabylonBee at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (amJF4)

472 I've sold $13 less than $600 on eBay so far this year. I'm done until 2023.
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Those bootleg copies of Ghost Ship are hot items.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:13 AM (0chEi)

473 I foresee a lot of very small time sellers on eBay hitting the exits. It just won't be worth it.

*

I won't sell anything else there. I suspect lots of specialized forum selling in the future.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 09:13 AM (PpeqO)

474 You support DeSantis? He is such a GOPE cuck.

That means you are too.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo: Captain, Purity Brigade at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (XIJ/X)
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Meh. I've been called worse by people who care.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 10, 2022 09:13 AM (5pTK/)

475 466 ""Chicago’s core problem is that it struggles to lure top talent away from coastal superstar cities."

Chicago's main problem is the people that are already here."

Chicago's core problem (and that of neighboring cities) is violent PoCs.
Posted by: gp, Lacking Standing Since 2020 at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (qpX6U)

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Or, Democratic Machine Politics that's been entrenched for more than a century.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:13 AM (LvTSG)

476 Chicago's location unfortunately means it is not temperate in the way coastal cities can be. Harsh winds and harsh weather. Not fun in the long run.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM


Met a woman traveling who claimed Chicago was only "cold" one month out of the year and that was January. Told her I was stationed there with the Navy and I would sometimes walk half a mile out on the lake to ice fish in Lake Michigan in March.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 09:13 AM (bVYXr)

477 >>Sorry, but the dems going scorched earth isn't going to work out well for anyone.

Not in the short term. But for the good of the country it might just save us.

The slumbering middle of the country that does not really pay attention to politics is finally waking up and they are not happy. They may not run out tomorrow and buy a red hat but they don't like 90,000 new IRS agents and they don't like government raids based on politics.

It's probably about time people stopped whining about Trump's personnel picks or his mean tweets or his ginormous ego. He is the lightning rod we need to wake people up and stop a full on fascist takeover of the country. I don't give a fuck if he's not perfect, he fights more than anyone I've ever seen or anyone anybody else has ever seen and he keeps going.

He is the warrior we need in a time of scorched earth.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 09:13 AM (ZLI7S)

478 so no, I don't agree. it could be - and based on recent SUCCESSFUL sitcoms - would probably be the opposite of what you describe.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 09:09 AM (w0NJk)
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I'll take your word for it. I pretty much tuned out TV a while ago. It sounds good, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 09:14 AM (WWh8n)

479 472 I've sold $13 less than $600 on eBay so far this year. I'm done until 2023.
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Those bootleg copies of Ghost Ship are hot items.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:13 AM (0chEi)

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You have no idea. I keep sending them to the same address, though. Username is Phead1963.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:14 AM (LvTSG)

480 422 what's with all the fucking cheesehead news these days?

nobody cares about wisconsin it is just some hillbilly haen between chicago and minneaplis.
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 09:04 AM (vJ6dp)

Democrats care about Wisconsin a whole lot. Remember, Milwaukee was one of the epicenters of the 2020 steal, and this is what allowed them to send Wisconsin's electoral vote to Biden. If new officials are elected who will clean up Wisconsin electoral systems, they will lose a key locus of support.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 09:14 AM (r46W7)

481 I believe they think that they can bar Trump from running at low political cost by getting him on what is basically a process crime. A public trial on sedition or incitement to riot charges has much higher political cost because Trump will truly become a martyr and who knows what January 6 records SCOTUS would order turned over to the defense.
Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM (AMIL/)
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The plan may just be as simple as putting out the message that Trump was raided by the FBI (surely had something to hide) and that's it. Then run on that for next time to taint his image in the public perception.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 09:14 AM (YIVH2)

482 Yep

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 09:14 AM (WY8d2)

483 Are any FBI agents hanging out here today?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at August 10, 2022 09:15 AM (eGTCV)

484 I watched the video of the incident. Plenty of Desantis-run cops on scene helping provide security to the FBI.
Posted by: Jimco Industries at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM (buTO7)



The governor knows every incident involving local police beforehand, I'm sure. Not that they were called, after the fact, then commandeered by the local agent in charge upon arrival.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 09:15 AM (Zz0t1)

485 Chicago, hot lead, chonky women, and industrial gas onshore winds.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 09:15 AM (6ObvH)

486 It's probably about time people stopped whining about Trump's personnel picks or his mean tweets or his ginormous ego. He is the lightning rod we need to wake people up and stop a full on fascist takeover of the country. I don't give a fuck if he's not perfect, he fights more than anyone I've ever seen or anyone anybody else has ever seen and he keeps going.

He is the warrior we need in a time of scorched earth.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 09:13 AM (ZLI7S)

Amen to that. And A-women.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2022 09:15 AM (mfcnR)

487 nobody cares about wisconsin it is just some hillbilly haen between chicago and minneaplis.
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 09:04 AM (vJ6dp)

Democrats care about Wisconsin a whole lot. Remember, Milwaukee was one of the epicenters of the 2020 steal, and this is what allowed them to send Wisconsin's electoral vote to Biden. If new officials are elected who will clean up Wisconsin electoral systems, they will lose a key locus of support.


I think you do not understand the comment.

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 09:15 AM (vJ6dp)

488 481 The plan may just be as simple as putting out the message that Trump was raided by the FBI (surely had something to hide) and that's it. Then run on that for next time to taint his image in the public perception.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 09:14 AM (YIVH2)

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"The system was rigged against me because I defend you."
"Yeah, well, the institutions of that system have targeted you for destruction."
"How does this lessen my point? Like, at all?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:16 AM (LvTSG)

489 He lives to 2035.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (LvTSG)

That would be very unlikely. He is obviously in the middle stages of dementia. He probably has 5-6 years left if he is lucky.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 09:16 AM (XIJ/X)

490 Are any FBI agents hanging out here today?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, at August 10, 2022 09:15 AM (eGTCV)
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Ummm, no?

Posted by: Clean gut fit guy with high and tight at August 10, 2022 09:16 AM (5pTK/)

491 Consider, for a moment, the reason we have heard nothing to justify this raid lies in the fact that they expected Trump to be there.

This was a photo-op assassination attempt-- they were going to raid and frog-marchTrump out front in handcuffs to plaster all over the news.

That was the purpose--a photo of Trump in cuffs under armed guard.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 10, 2022 09:16 AM (Zf0+a)

492 I believe they think that they can bar Trump from running at low political cost by getting him on what is basically a process crime. A public trial on sedition or incitement to riot charges has much higher political cost because Trump will truly become a martyr and who knows what January 6 records SCOTUS would order turned over to the defense.

Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM


I agree. They are doing this to charge him with something and then multiple States will say, nope he is guilty and can't run for office again and refuse to place him on the ballot. The left is already floating that idea around the inter webs.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 09:16 AM (bVYXr)

493 If Dems' DOJ Doesn't Have Enough to Convict, Trump Will Be Back in Oval Office

You asked for a miracle? I give you the F. B. I.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 09:16 AM (6TxNR)

494 489 That would be very unlikely. He is obviously in the middle stages of dementia. He probably has 5-6 years left if he is lucky.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 09:16 AM (XIJ/X)

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I'm just not changing my prediction.

I've heard far too many predictions of Biden dropping trou and shitting on the floor on national television to do anything but think he lasts far longer than anyone expects.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:17 AM (LvTSG)

495 That would be very unlikely. He is obviously in the middle stages of dementia. He probably has 5-6 years left if he is lucky.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

And we're not.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 10, 2022 09:17 AM (FVME7)

496 Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (H8QX

DeSantis has that milquetoast Repub feel at times, and its a shame.

Very much the soft sell on some issues which some say is "controlled" compared to Trump, and they like that.

Unfortunately that type usually gets eaten alive. We've only seen it 100 times in the last ten years.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 09:17 AM (/6Rxy)

497
It's probably about time people stopped whining about Trump's personnel picks or his mean tweets or his ginormous ego. He is the lightning rod we need to wake people up and stop a full on fascist takeover of the country. I don't give a fuck if he's not perfect, he fights more than anyone I've ever seen or anyone anybody else has ever seen and he keeps going.

He is the warrior we need in a time of scorched earth.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 09:13 AM (ZLI7S)



Yeah. For the most part, THIS.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 09:17 AM (Zz0t1)

498 The bad guys are desperate, Horde. Flop sweat and panic attacks desperate.

Posted by: callsign claymore at August 10, 2022 09:02 AM (MCOss)



Yeah, they're really on their fucking heels.

They're fucking with two nuclear powers, holding political prisoners, arming and staffing up all the 3 letter agencies to go door to door arresting dissidents, seizing/freezing bank assets, banning guns, turning neighbors/family into rats against each other, showing dick-sucking videos and having trannies read to your kids. All while you sit, watch, and do nothing.

They are real fucking desperate.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 10, 2022 09:18 AM (QkOba)

499 I have Trump down for 4 impeachments in his second term.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 09:18 AM (6ObvH)

500 Did'nt the FBI indict Casper Weinberger right before the 1992 election. And that was a Republican DOJ.

Has any Sitting Democrat office holder ever been raided in recent times?

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 09:18 AM (WY8d2)

501 It's probably about time people stopped whining about Trump's personnel picks or his mean tweets or his ginormous ego. He is the lightning rod we need to wake people up and stop a full on fascist takeover of the country. I don't give a fuck if he's not perfect, he fights more than anyone I've ever seen or anyone anybody else has ever seen and he keeps going.

He is the warrior we need in a time of scorched earth.
Posted by: JackStraw

*

Yep. I have no problem saying both he and Biden are doing exactly what the Lord put them there to do.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 09:18 AM (PpeqO)

502 I believe they think that they can bar Trump from running at low political cost by getting him on what is basically a process crime. A public trial on sedition or incitement to riot charges has much higher political cost because Trump will truly become a martyr and who knows what January 6 records SCOTUS would order turned over to the defense.

Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM


I don't think they are putting that much thought into it. If they thought they had enough to get him on insurrection or sedition, they would do that. They can't. So they are going after him another way.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 09:18 AM (6TxNR)

503 What have I been saying?

He runs for re-election in 2024. He lives to 2035.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (LvTSG)

Can you make me Big, Zoltar?

Posted by: Tom Hanks at August 10, 2022 09:18 AM (r46W7)

504 nobody cares about wisconsin it is just some hillbilly haen between chicago and minneaplis.
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 09:04 AM (vJ6dp)


Just call me Clem Moscowitz.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 09:18 AM (x0n13)

505 Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (WY8d2)

Nope. That does not belong on this blog.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 09:18 AM (XIJ/X)

506 Process crimes worked well for the Dems with Flynn, IIRC, or was it Manafort?

Posted by: Ziba at August 10, 2022 09:18 AM (4h9M3)

507 re: Trump's taxes being turned over to Congress

WSJ "House Democrats have said they need Mr. Trump’s tax returns to see if the IRS is properly auditing presidential returns and to assess whether
additional legislation is needed."

see, they just dont trust the IRS to audit hard enough

Posted by: McCool at August 10, 2022 09:19 AM (BqBIh)

508 493 If Dems' DOJ Doesn't Have Enough to Convict, Trump Will Be Back in Oval Office

You asked for a miracle? I give you the F. B. I.
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The counter narrative would be the FBI did this to ensure that Trump is Prez in 2024. That they've been collecting evidence of the in-house bad apples and their connections to Manhattan/China bad apples and need Trump to flush the stables. I know this is a stretch but it could be why Wray was appointed.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:19 AM (0chEi)

509 Leafs Hall-of-Fame defenceman, 71-year-old Borje Salming, announces he has ALS.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 09:19 AM (yikp0)

510 Jen a troll?

LMFAO.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 09:19 AM (Zz0t1)

511 491 Consider, for a moment, the reason we have heard nothing to justify this raid lies in the fact that they expected Trump to be there.

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I think he's in NY because he has to testify for some Letia James foolishness. So they should have known where he'd be.

Which makes it all the more plausible that they thought he'd be in MAL because they are dumb.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2022 09:19 AM (UuD2k)

512 Just call me Clem Moscowitz.
Posted by: J




in fairness it is a beautiful state, hope that you enjoy it.

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 09:20 AM (vJ6dp)

513 507 re: Trump's taxes being turned over to Congress

WSJ "House Democrats have said they need Mr. Trump’s tax returns to see if the IRS is properly auditing presidential returns and to assess whether
additional legislation is needed."

see, they just dont trust the IRS to audit hard enough
Posted by: McCool at August 10, 2022 09:19 AM (BqBIh)

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"We are going to pass ex post facto laws and get the DOJ to charge Trump based on that."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:20 AM (LvTSG)

514 >>Sorry, but the dems going scorched earth isn't going to work out well for anyone.

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I predict pain.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 10, 2022 09:20 AM (FVME7)

515 DeSantis is a veteran. that colors things for him. I'm still a fan.

491 Consider, for a moment, the reason we have heard nothing to justify this raid lies in the fact that they expected Trump to be there.


THIS. that is what happened. I btw have a very leftist family (they work for the govt very often is why; one of my relatives is a retired judge) and they keep saying stuff on social media that implies Trump was there ... like he was supposed to be there and they aren't getting that he wasn't there!

the story included him being there. they are STILL sticking with that narrative. someone gave him the heads up and he wasn't there. probably a freaking miracle!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 09:20 AM (w0NJk)

516 514 >>Sorry, but the dems going scorched earth isn't going to work out well for anyone.

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I predict pain.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 10, 2022 09:20 AM (FVME7)

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Ah, the gom jabbar.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:20 AM (LvTSG)

517 Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 08:03 AM (+nNfY)

I would agree with you had I not just witnessed my governor, Gretchen witmer, just eliminate her 4 best opponents. She prevented them from even being on the ballot.

Posted by: Chillin the most at August 10, 2022 09:20 AM (EU97I)

518 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:17 AM (LvTSG)

Oh, I don't disagree. Biden is a political survivor. But there is no way he will live to 2035.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 09:20 AM (XIJ/X)

519 It is amazing to me that after all we have witnessed up to and including this revolting episode that people still believe that regular order, elections, and life in general in America goes on as it always has, when in fact the republic as it was, or as we had always imagined it, has fallen and in fact fell a long time ago

I've been paddling that canoe for awhile JJ.
"Those who have been once intoxicated with power, and have derived any kind of emolument from it, even though but for one year, never can willingly abandon it. They may be distressed in the midst of all their power; but they will never look to anything but power for their relief."

Edmund Burke
Thanks as always for your tireless efforts.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at August 10, 2022 09:21 AM (NgGts)

520
WSJ "House Democrats have said they need Mr. Trump’s tax returns to see if the IRS is properly auditing presidential returns and to assess whether
additional legislation is needed."

see, they just dont trust the IRS to audit hard enough
Posted by: McCool at August 10, 2022 09:19 AM (BqBIh)



"Additional legislation."

See, they want to change the fucking LAW to stop Trump from ever happening again. They're fucking TERRIFIED of him.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 09:21 AM (Zz0t1)

521 Just call me Clem Moscowitz.
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JJ, do you know the lyrics to Green Acres? Have you met Fred Ziffel yet?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:21 AM (0chEi)

522 460 is that the Green on Green crime spree?

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 10, 2022 09:21 AM (ISPXD)

523 Yep. I have no problem saying both he and Biden are doing exactly what the Lord put them there to do.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 09:18 AM (PpeqO)

except that Biden is being run by a different "lord".

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 09:21 AM (r46W7)

524 The plan may just be as simple as putting out the message that Trump was raided by the FBI (surely had something to hide) and that's it. Then run on that for next time to taint his image in the public perception.


Also to cover up Pres. Broke Brain's corruptions and disasters. I believe 'Stray Voltage' is the term.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 10, 2022 09:21 AM (OTXUv)

525 Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 09:13 AM (ZLI7S)

From your mouth to God's ears, JS.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 09:21 AM (AW0uW)

526 518 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:17 AM (LvTSG)

Oh, I don't disagree. Biden is a political survivor. But there is no way he will live to 2035.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 09:20 AM (XIJ/X)

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Just trying to keep to my prediction without moving goalposts. When he croaks in 2029, I'll accept I was wrong then.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:21 AM (LvTSG)

527 I think we need to release congressional tax returns to see if they are adequately audited. The dems are like middle school smart asses.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 09:22 AM (6ObvH)

528 The PTB absolutely does not want a bunch of MAGA governors, Congressional reps, Senators and a MAGA President.

The PTB are going to do everything in their power to make sure they retain power at the federal level. Their worst nightmare is individual states reasserting their autonomy under the Tenth Amendment.

Kari Lake was spot on.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 10, 2022 09:22 AM (5pTK/)

529 464 Still in shock that Biden lasted this long

Posted by: Jonah at August 10, 2022 09:03 AM (WY8d2)

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"Adrenochrome. It's what's for breakfast, lunch, & dinner. Ask me how I know." -- Zombie RBG

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 09:12 AM (PnkSq)


That stuff really peps me up! I get mine fresh squeezed from adrenal glands chopped-out of partial-birth abortion clumps of cells. It's a good thing DC has so many abortion clinics!

Posted by: Joe, Your Dear Leader at August 10, 2022 09:22 AM (AMIL/)

530 Leafs Hall-of-Fame defenceman, 71-year-old Borje Salming, announces he has ALS.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 09:19 AM (yikp0)



Terrible.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 09:22 AM (Zz0t1)

531 Speaking of, did everyone see the video where Biden shakes Schumer's hand on stage, then tries to shake his hand again three seconds later and looks confused when he can't shake his hand again?

youtube.com/watch?v=1L4zb3gvUkA

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 09:22 AM (PpeqO)

532 I watched Hannity for the first time in a while last night.

He had a 'major announcement' that his belief in the FBI has shifted. Instead of believing that 99% of the FBI employees are good and honest people, he is now decreasing it to 95%.


************

A Great American

Pondering the fate of all humanity
While tryin' to keep a handle on your sanity
When watching TV News
Here's a tidbit you can use
"The FBI's just SWELL!!!" (So sez Hannity)

Posted by: Muldoon at August 10, 2022 09:22 AM (kXYt5)

533 DeSantis has that milquetoast Repub feel at times, and its a shame.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 09:17 AM (/6Rxy)

Watch his news conferences.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 09:22 AM (XIJ/X)

534 You can't appreciate the good presidents without going through a few bad ones.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 09:23 AM (6ObvH)

535 And both Hiroshima and Nagasaki are barren wastelands without life.
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Bearolphin is attacking! We must flee!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 09:23 AM (yikp0)

536 Oh, I don't disagree. Biden is a political survivor. But there is no way he will live to 2035.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 09:20 AM (XIJ/X)

Maybe we can remove his head a freeze it for use later?

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2022 09:23 AM (2CExO)

537 Consider, for a moment, the reason we have heard nothing to justify this raid lies in the fact that they expected Trump to be there.

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I think he's in NY because he has to testify for some Letia James foolishness. So they should have known where he'd be.

Which makes it all the more plausible that they thought he'd be in MAL because they are dumb.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2022 09:19 AM


They knew Trump was not there because it was in the friggin newspaper all over NYC. Granted the fib is stupid to have conducted this panty raid, but they ain't that stupid.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 09:23 AM (bVYXr)

538 Tim Young
@TimRunsHisMouth
This is perfect.

The people marked their homes in hopes that the FBI would Pass Over them

https://tinyurl.com/bdcuurd9

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 09:23 AM (NpAcC)

539 I would agree with you had I not just witnessed my governor, Gretchen witmer, just eliminate her 4 best opponents. She prevented them from even being on the ballot.

I stand by my prediction that Gretch the Wretch will win re-election.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 09:23 AM (AW0uW)

540 That Trump wasn't there, when their source told them he was, has them in a panic.

Their mole in his organization is compromised.
And they don't know who the mole is in theirs-- they ran this out of DC with only hand-picked loyalists in the know.

It was going to be perfect: Trump in cuffs, weak, helpless, under armed guard-for all the world to mock--was going to peal away just enough gentry Republicans and support to weaken him enough to finally take him out.

They never intended charges. Right now, the delay is to back-fill and manufacturer a cover story for the raid.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 10, 2022 09:23 AM (Zf0+a)

541 >>Leafs Hall-of-Fame defenceman, 71-year-old Borje Salming, announces he has ALS.

Well that sucks. I always thought he was a class act.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 09:23 AM (ZLI7S)

542 534 You can't appreciate the good presidents without going through a few bad ones.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 09:23 AM (6ObvH)

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"Is he talking about Van Buren?!"
-The Van Buren Boys

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 09:23 AM (LvTSG)

543 Watch his news conferences.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 09:22 AM (XIJ/X)

I like DeSantis. He's the best we have that isn't Trump.

It's just my observation.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 09:24 AM (/6Rxy)

544 I wonder what the FBI would find if they, just for the hell of it, raided Adam Schiff. In addition to the kiddie porn.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at August 10, 2022 09:24 AM (eGTCV)

545 Biden won't last past December unless Big Pharma comes up with something.

Posted by: Ziba at August 10, 2022 09:25 AM (4h9M3)

546 Is it just me, or does he actually look like Musk?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

That is exactly what I thought. He is brilliant engineer. Whoa. Does Musk have a secret clone program?

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 10, 2022 09:25 AM (FF+On)

547 They knew Trump was not there because it was in the friggin newspaper all over NYC. Granted the fib is stupid to have conducted this panty raid, but they ain't that stupid.


he has a private plane, right? the FBI thought he would be there. they wanted the optics to add to their (false) narrative. I'm sure of this (because I'm literally hearing the narrative being peddled by my family members b/c they have no choice now but to run with it despite it being a huge FAIL)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 09:25 AM (w0NJk)

548 Great meme about the FBI searching Melania's wardrobe:
https://tinyurl.com/26kx7edp

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 09:25 AM (ZGrMX)

549 I wonder what the FBI would find if they, just for the hell of it, raided Adam Schiff. In addition to the kiddie porn.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, at August 10, 2022 09:24 AM (eGTCV)

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Schiff probably trades kiddie porn pics with the FBI.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 10, 2022 09:26 AM (5pTK/)

550 When Trump dies in 2035, I'm making my move on Melania. I'll call and let her know if she needs anything. ANY THING... Then I'll slowly implement the D.E.N.N.I.S
tactic. Its going to be awesome.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at August 10, 2022 09:26 AM (buTO7)

551
"Why is that dude banging your wife right in front of you?"


"It just shows how afraid of me he is. He's desperate."

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 10, 2022 09:26 AM (QkOba)

552 he has a private plane, right? the FBI thought he would be there. they wanted the optics to add to their (false) narrative. I'm sure of this (because I'm literally hearing the narrative being peddled by my family members b/c they have no choice now but to run with it despite it being a huge FAIL)

he drove to ny

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 10, 2022 09:27 AM (vJ6dp)

553 "Why is that dude banging your wife right in front of you?"

"It just shows how afraid of me he is. He's desperate."

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 10, 2022 09:26 AM (QkOba)

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Exactly.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 09:27 AM (PnkSq)

554 517 Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 08:03 AM (+nNfY)

I would agree with you had I not just witnessed my governor, Gretchen witmer, just eliminate her 4 best opponents. She prevented them from even being on the ballot.
Posted by: Chillin the most at August 10, 2022 09:20 AM (EU97I)

Michigan is one of the exceptionally corrupt states, up there with the three soviet states on the west coast. Also, the candidates who lost out were great fools by not taking that part of the process seriously. My understanding is that they each farmed out the signature getting to paid consultants (or whatever they called themselves) who intentionally screwed it up. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2022 09:27 AM (r46W7)

555 I stand by my prediction that Gretch the Wretch will win re-election.

usually I think you're a bit too negative MPPP but here you're right

my supposedly R friends in Michigan are mentally ill Bulwark types. it's INSANE. I can't even talk to them! I can talk to liberals just fine but not sure what happened to the old-school MI republicans - they're intensely anti-Trump. and they LOVE Gretch.

ew.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 09:27 AM (w0NJk)

556
I'm sure the FBO knows exactly where Trumps plane is every day of the week. Therefor, the plan was to do the raid when he was gone, intimidate his employees into turning off the surveillance system and plant their evidence.

The last thing in the world they wanted was to go man-to-man with Donald Trump in his own home.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 10, 2022 09:27 AM (jE276)

557 re: Trump's taxes being turned over to Congress

Trump has worked hard for this precedent to be set. Now for the families and foundations... You go, Mr. Wile E. Coyote!

Posted by: t-bird at August 10, 2022 09:28 AM (N0qRy)

558 Of course the dems will support FJB if he is the nominee. They would support satan himself if he was nominated.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 09:28 AM (6ObvH)

559 The conservative case for a satanic presidency.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 09:28 AM (6ObvH)

560 DeSantis continues to allow Christina Pushaw to blast the media and the PTB.

If DeSantis truly was a milquetoast, Pushaw would have been gone long ago. Heck, Pushaw probably wouldn't have been hired in the first place.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 10, 2022 09:28 AM (5pTK/)

561 558 Of course the dems will support FJB if he is the nominee. They would support satan himself if he was nominated.


lol CAT they would ENTHUSIASTICALLY support Stan! he's basically their dream at this point.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 09:28 AM (w0NJk)

562 As I am often heard to say, I'm quite certain that Pol Pot, Mao and Hitler were "scared" and "desperate" a lot of the time too.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 09:29 AM (/6Rxy)

563 You think that State Governors have far more power and authority than they have. Not a single one has an actual army at his disposal, and they don't rule by Decree. Close the Airports? By what Imperial Authority would any Governor do that? Any who tried should be immediately tossed out of the office on grounds of insanity.
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Mayor Daley the Younger ripped up landing strips in the middle of the night.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 10, 2022 09:29 AM (MIKMs)

564 Speaking of, did everyone see the video where Biden shakes Schumer's hand on stage, then tries to shake his hand again three seconds later and looks confused when he can't shake his hand again?

youtube.com/watch?v=1L4zb3gvUkA
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels

Hand shaking ghosts are everywhere!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 10, 2022 09:29 AM (FVME7)

565 I have Trump down for 4 impeachments in his second term.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2022 09:18 AM (6ObvH)
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Is that in the first year or the entire term??

Posted by: Florida Peasant at August 10, 2022 09:29 AM (dr4Q1)

566 "If Dems’ DOJ Doesn't Have Enough to Convict, Trump Will Be Back in Oval Office"

Sounds a lot like the quote: "When you strike at the Orange King, you must kill him."

Posted by: red speck at August 10, 2022 09:30 AM (gS3OW)

567
Hand shaking ghosts are everywhere!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 10, 2022 09:29 AM (FVME7)



I'm sensing a theme with this guy.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 09:30 AM (Zz0t1)

568 Mitch McConnell might be 80 years old, but he's been grooming John Thune as his successor for awhile now.

And Thune is a McConnell clone.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at August 10, 2022 09:30 AM (V6W16)

569 They would support satan himself if he was nominated.

He's their dream candidate, so that's a given.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 09:30 AM (ZGrMX)

570 >>he has a private plane, right? the FBI thought he would be there. they wanted the optics to add to their (false) narrative. I'm sure of this (because I'm literally hearing the narrative being peddled by my family members b/c they have no choice now but to run with it despite it being a huge FAIL)

Mar A Lago is being run by a skeleton crew right now because it's hotter than Satan's under ball area in Florida. Almost nobody is there.

The FBI is clumsy and corrupt but they aren't completely stupid. They knew Trump wasn't going to be there when they went and they probably didn't want him there.

They wanted the documents.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 09:30 AM (ZLI7S)

571 568 Mitch McConnell might be 80 years old, but he's been grooming John Thune as his successor for awhile now.

And Thune is a McConnell clone.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at August 10, 2022 09:30 AM (V6W16)


"Grooming?' Eww.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2022 09:30 AM (x0n13)

572 The FBI is clumsy and corrupt but they aren't completely stupid. They knew Trump wasn't going to be there when they went and they probably didn't want him there.

They wanted the documents.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 09:30 AM (ZLI7S)
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The FBI may not be stupid, but, the people who ordered the raid obviously are.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 10, 2022 09:31 AM (5pTK/)

573 Also to cover up Pres. Broke Brain's corruptions and disasters. I believe 'Stray Voltage' is the term.
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It was done to set the stage for the Mid-Terms to Why I Hate Trump instead of Why I as a Dem Suck So Much?
Its an admission they have bumpkis going into this election.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:31 AM (0chEi)

574 492 I believe they think that they can bar Trump from running at low political cost by getting him on what is basically a process crime. A public trial on sedition or incitement to riot charges has much higher political cost because Trump will truly become a martyr and who knows what January 6 records SCOTUS would order turned over to the defense.

Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 09:11 AM


I agree. They are doing this to charge him with something and then multiple States will say, nope he is guilty and can't run for office again and refuse to place him on the ballot. The left is already floating that idea around the inter webs.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 09:16 AM (bVYXr)


The official records statute they will charge him for violating says conviction automatically bars the criminal from ever holding an office of trust or profit in the US Gov't. The Dem LawFare thugs know the
US Criminal Code inside and out.

Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 09:32 AM (AMIL/)

575 So apparently all of the FBI agents that raided MaraLago were carrying backpacks when the stormed Trumps castle.

Now what could they have been carrying those packs?

The world wonders.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 10, 2022 09:32 AM (cxukp)

576 The FBI is clumsy and corrupt but they aren't completely stupid. They knew Trump wasn't going to be there when they went and they probably didn't want him there.

They wanted the documents.


hmm...

well I have about 1 percent hope that this story - that he truly did have incredibly damaging evidence vs the IC - is actually true. so that's good! that's pretty optimistic!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 09:32 AM (w0NJk)

577
Granted the fib is stupid to have conducted this panty raid, but they ain't that stupid.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 09:23 AM


Panty raid. Good name for it.

Also, by car it's about a 24 trip from Florida to New York. He flew.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 10, 2022 09:32 AM (jE276)

578 The FBI is clumsy and corrupt but they aren't completely stupid. They knew Trump wasn't going to be there when they went and they probably didn't want him there.

They wanted the documents.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 09:30 AM


Minor correction, they wanted the documents and they wanted a photo op.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 09:32 AM (bVYXr)

579 I expect a slow public release of every document the FBI has been sent to fetch.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:33 AM (0chEi)

580 DeSantis truly was a milquetoast, Pushaw would have been gone long ago. Heck, Pushaw probably wouldn't have been hired in the first place.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 10, 2022 09:28 AM (5pTK/)

Pushaw is fantastic. And mind you, Trump had people working for him that were much more disciplined than he is.

In any event I didn't say he was milquetoast. I said AT TIMES he gives off that soft sell milquetoast feel and there are people on our side who cheer it as "controlled" compared to Trump.

But the enemy will take the smallest hole, the littlest crack or weakness and crash through it with a battering ram and set off ten Nagasakis inside for good measure.

It will only be seen in hindsight.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 09:34 AM (/6Rxy)

581 579 I expect a slow public release of every document the FBI has been sent to fetch.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:33 AM (0chEi)

Except the ones showing Biden is a crook.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2022 09:34 AM (Y5qcH)

582 I expect a slow public release of every document the FBI has been sent to fetch.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:33 AM (0chEi)



I would like to see the warrant. Does it say "every piece of paper to be examined" or was it looking for something specific.

I didn't think a specific warrant allowed them to take EVERYTHING then sift through it later.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 09:34 AM (Zz0t1)

583 >>The FBI may not be stupid, but, the people who ordered the raid obviously are.

Or really scared.

What do you think those documents show?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 09:34 AM (ZLI7S)

584 If Trump knew about the raid in advance, why didn't he go to Florida and face down the feds?

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 09:35 AM (cTCuP)

585 Is that in the first year or the entire term??
Posted by: Florida Peasant


Sadly, both.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 09:35 AM (vcv8B)

586 If Trump knew about the raid in advance, why didn't he go to Florida and face down the feds?
Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 09:35 AM (cTCuP)



There was a greater than zero chance they'd have shot him dead.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 09:36 AM (Zz0t1)

587 But there has been a sharp increase in reports of attacks by monkeys this summer, while authorities in one coastal city have warned of dolphins becoming aggressive toward swimmers.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 09:09 AM (yikp0)



and so it begins..

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 09:36 AM (yQpMk)

588 I like the video of Biden blowing his nose and later shaking hands. That video clip has been taken down for some reason.

Posted by: Ziba at August 10, 2022 09:36 AM (4h9M3)

589 If they thought they had enough to get him on insurrection or sedition, they would do that. They can't. So they are going after him another way.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 09:18 AM (6TxNR)

Carrots in the chili? Maple syrup on French toast?

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 10, 2022 09:37 AM (U3uv2)

590
If Trump knew about the raid in advance, why didn't he go to Florida and face down the feds?

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 09:35 AM


I believe he was in a court of law for some other bullshit case. The Feds knew he was tied up.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 10, 2022 09:38 AM (jE276)

591 In any event I didn't say he was milquetoast. I said AT TIMES he gives off that soft sell milquetoast feel and there are people on our side who cheer it as "controlled" compared to Trump.

Precision munitions still blow shit up.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 09:40 AM (ZGrMX)

592 This is why Trump couldn't just go and arrest Hillary, however warranted. It's not a good look.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 09:42 AM (/6Rxy)

593 I believe he was in a court of law for some other bullshit case. The Feds knew he was tied up.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 10, 2022 09:38 AM (jE276)


I'll accept that.

The only other person I know whose house was the target of a search warrant had the same experience. He was out of town at the time. Must be part of the plan.

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 09:43 AM (cTCuP)

594 If, the Good Lord forbid, Newsome should step into the WH, he and Trudeau can have a bromance to end all bromances.

Posted by: Flyover at August 10, 2022 09:43 AM (Rbu5d)

595 581 579 I expect a slow public release of every document the FBI has been sent to fetch.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:33 AM (0chEi)

Except the ones showing Biden is a crook.
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Maybe they deal with the hetero and homo pedophile ring that rules us? A high cost, high trust, syndicate of Too Big To Fail may require being flimned having sex with children to ensure loyalty to the whole?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:44 AM (0chEi)

596 Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 09:40 AM (ZGrMX)

I just call it as I see it. And although my prognostication meter has mostly been on the fritz (although I did say all along Manchin and Sinema were whores and to expect nothing less than what we got), my skills of observation are still in fine working order.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 09:44 AM (/6Rxy)

597 So apparently all of the FBI agents that raided Mar-a-Lago were carrying backpacks when the stormed Trumps castle. Now what could they have been carrying those packs? The world wonders. Posted by: Thomas Bender

Spit balling here. If I was President Trump, I would spend the next 6 months and few million dollars finding every single electronic surveillance device the Gestapo agents carried into Mar-a-Lago and then planted. I suggest he start where Melania changes clothes.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 10, 2022 09:46 AM (FF+On)

598 do you think all of this will be an Oliver Stone movie someday? I do.

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 09:49 AM (geLO8)

599 I have Trump down for 4 impeachments in his second term.
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The jay-walking one will take him down, this time!!!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 09:49 AM (yikp0)

600 and nood

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 09:49 AM (geLO8)

601 Yes! 342 my Texas granddaughters who are products of UT Austin are Francis (Beto) supporters. Insanity on steroids.

Posted by: AnnaS at August 10, 2022 09:50 AM (16+y3)

602 suggest he start where Melania changes clothes.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 10, 2022 09:46 AM (FF+On)

Barron

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 09:51 AM (/6Rxy)

603 597 So apparently all of the FBI agents that raided Mar-a-Lago were carrying backpacks when the stormed Trumps castle. Now what could they have been carrying those packs? The world wonders. Posted by: Thomas Bender
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If you recall, during the Insurrection on J6 a squad of Ninja clad, backpack equipped, insurrectionists did, in fact, break into the Capitol through a window on the opposite side of the Capitol where House Police opened doors and invited protesters in. Now ask yourself, who the fuck dresses in full Ninja costume to break into the Capitol fully knowing they were filmned?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:52 AM (0chEi)

604 82 Mornin', all! Another weirdly cool MO morning. The global warmening idiots should relax and enjoy an August morning with the windows open....
Posted by: Catherine at August 10, 2022 08:03 AM (ZSsrh)

I am certainly enjoying it. We had August weather in June, and now we get some June weather in August.

Posted by: Flyover at August 10, 2022 10:01 AM (Rbu5d)

605 Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 09:52 AM (0chEi)

Good spot

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 10:16 AM (/6Rxy)

606 NPR coverage of the MAL raid is sneaky - lots of references to conservative anger, but in the context of how it is stoked by conservative media, without the slightest suggestion it might be valid! Three constantly repeated messages:
1. Trump could release the search warrant - yeah, he has the right to publicly repeat the FBI allegations against him!
2. The search warrant was approved by a judge - yeah, just like the Russia dossier.
3. The dozens of investigations against Trump without result over the last seven years just prove he is guilty as hell - and they even listed them off, highlighting the current ones!

Nowhere is their coverage was the slightest hint that the simple answer is the one that millions of Americans have already figured out - the Democrats are scared shitless of him winning, and then pulling back the carpet they've been hiding all their filth under!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 10, 2022 10:34 AM (peWy1)

607 Don't they build fire suppression systems into the Tesla.

Can one build a fire suppression system that works on lithium fires? It's pretty reactive stuff.

Posted by: markedup2 at August 10, 2022 10:47 AM (SSbfN)

608 MSM is giddy inflation is down to 8.5% (officially) and gas is under $4 (due to people not driving if they don't have too) and this is supposed to make us happy? Just what would an economic disaster look like to these people?


Wait until the strategic petroleum is depleted. What then will America's best and brightest do?

Posted by: Ripley at August 10, 2022 11:31 AM (MxEKc)

609 I usually avoid quoting Limbaugh...mostly because his absence is still a downer. But he said years ago that Democrats' ultimate aim was to eliminate elections. Eliminate elections completely?

It sounded preposterous and unworkable but damn if they aren't trying their hardest right here and now.

Posted by: Patchy at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (I/Pe0)

610 If they go along to get along, they are just as bad as the true believers. In fact they may be worse because they know what they are doing is wrong.

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