OUT: The FISA Court Only Issues Surveillance Warrants With Compelling Evidence<br>IN: Federal Judges Only Issue Warrants to Raid Presidents With Compelling Evidence

OUT: The FISA Court Only Issues Surveillance Warrants With Compelling Evidence
IN: Federal Judges Only Issue Warrants to Raid Presidents With Compelling Evidence

Below the fold, "Fusion Ken" Dilanian basically says the exact same things he did about how hard it is to get a FISA surveillance warrant, and how the very fact The Regime secured one against Trump proves that the evidence against him is bountiful, robust, and impeccable.

Excuse me, Fusion Ken, but we've heard all of this before, and heard it from you before, haven't we?

In the Empire of Lies, all citizens are required to forget everything The Regime did a month or more ago.

.@KenDilanianNBC is explaining the process of obtaining a search warrant for a former President in his home, what the FBI would have to establish to get a federal judge to authorize a warrant of this nature, and other details. pic.twitter.com/g5WOPtCF72
— TODAY (@TODAYshow) August 9, 2022

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I'll believe it when I see it. As Kyle Sheidler points out, the Senate Republicans rolled over when the Criminal Wray decided he was going to play hooky on their committee and take a jet they had given him to go on a weekend vacation.

After years of shrieking that it's too dangerous to the Republic to even talk about going after Hillary Clinton for her many crimes, NeverTrump is clapping like seals about Biden weaponizing the federal government to go after the likely 2024 GOP nominee.

Maybe it's time for governors and all right-thinking local governments to end all cooperation with the FBI.

I renew a suggestion for an action that all Americans can take to show their rejection of Oligarchic Rule: Automatic acquittal in all federal prosecution cases until the federal government is reformed. They can't prosecute and terrorize the population if jurors -- guaranteed in criminal trials by the Constitution -- automatically refuse to convict.

You can't trust a prosecution brought by a criminal gang, obviously.

It's always the same people -- and the same people cited for malfeasance by the IG:

Of course, they keep being put on these cases because they weren't guilty of "malfeasance." They did exactly what The Regime asked of them. And so they are rewarded.

Even this cvck gets it:

And this one, of course, does not:

Five hours ago, David was talking about how the IRS is used to unduly harass people, including himself.

What changed? The target. pic.twitter.com/gd8ln5BG8U
— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) August 9, 2022

#MuhPrinciples, amirite?

This is funny, but it makes a good point: There is obviously evidence that Hunter Biden has committed a lot of crimes, and yet there are no raids on his home.

There is also evidence that Joe Biden committed crimes with him.

Conclusive proof? No, not yet -- but that's why you issue warrants to conduct raids on people's homes. To get that proof.

Now, in the past, even though there is probable cause to believe Joe Biden committed crimes, we would say: "But we must restrain ourselves. This is a president we're talking about. We do not send the FBI over to raid his house because we have probable cause to suspect he was running a foreign influence-peddling operation with his dirtybag crackhead son."

But that was in the past.

What restrains us now?

If we see a Democrat -- any Democrat, including one running for any office -- for whom we have any probable cause of suspicion of committing any crime, send the police raiding parties, slap on the leg irons.

And what will NeverTrump say then about MuhNormzzz? They've blessed this tactic every single time it's been deployed against Trump or his people.

Is it time for them to decloak and admit simply that they are Democrats and urge a different rule for Democrats just because Democrats believe in a separate rule for Democrats?

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

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1 fuck these fucking fucks

burn

scatter

salt

Posted by: SturmToddler (po3vF) at August 09, 2022 12:02 PM (WhsXQ)

2 oh, and SPONGE!!!

Posted by: SturmToddler (po3vF) at August 09, 2022 12:02 PM (WhsXQ)

3 corgis called

Posted by: SturmToddler (po3vF) at August 09, 2022 12:02 PM (WhsXQ)

4 After years of shrieking that it's too dangerous to the Republic to even talk about going after Hillary Clinton for her many crimes, NeverTrump is clapping like seals about Biden weaponizing the federal government to go after the likely 2024 GOP nominee.
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Of course. Hillary is in the club.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 12:04 PM (WWh8n)

5 Sorry, Feds. Any credibility your forebears generated is long gone.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 09, 2022 12:04 PM (lTGtQ)

6 FJB

Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 09, 2022 12:04 PM (x/Zt2)

7 Breitbart said it best.

Posted by: Bosk at August 09, 2022 12:04 PM (v4L7Y)

8 Is it time for them to decloak and admit simply that they are Democrats and urge a different rule for Democrats just because Democrats believe in a separate rule for Democrats?

Oh pretty much everyone who isn't a demorat cult zombie knows this.

Last week though I opined that the IC just needs to stop playing and go install themselves in the Oval since that's who's *really* been running the show for decades.

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:05 PM (dCxaZ)

9 It's not the crime.. It's the seriousness of the "charge. "

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:05 PM (bs+z0)

10 I'll believe it when I see it. As Kyle Sheidler points out, the Senate Republicans rolled over when the Criminal Wray decided he was going to play hooky on their committee and take a jet they had given him to go on a weekend vacation.

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Committee hearings are pointless in general. They are definitionally theater.

You know what would make the DOJ actually scared?

Returning to regular budgetary order, passing individual budget and appropriations bills by department, and then halving the DOJ's budget while denying the left the ability to hold the DOD budget at the same time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 09, 2022 12:05 PM (LvTSG)

11 Yes...the warrant issued by a judge who used to be Epstein's best buddy. An intimate friend, as it were.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 12:05 PM (XvPQV)

12 How difficult would it be for a Hawaiian judge to approve a warrant?

Posted by: BignJames at August 09, 2022 12:05 PM (AwYPR)

13 what a farce.

So much drama.

Planet earf is just populated with drama queens and most of them butt ugly

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (dCxaZ)

14 Pointing out hypocrisy is fair, but you can't shame the shameless.

They actually believe in what they are doing and will die for it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (mZ3xv)

15 Regarding Kevin McCarthy's statement, they FIB and DOJ will quote Andrew Jackson if they take over in '23: "Congress has made its decision, not let them enforce it"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

16 Maybe it's time for governors and all right-thinking local governments to end all cooperation with the FBI.
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Ditto. Shadow the feds with local and state LE. If they step even one femtometer outside of their explicit jurisdiction or fail to cross a single "t" or dot a single "i" for any reason whatsoever, arrest them and throw them in state prisons. Sanctuary cities showed the way with ICE. Apply it to everyone.

I renew a suggestion for an action that all Americans can take to show their rejection of Oligarchic Rule: Automatic acquittal in all federal prosecution cases until the federal government is reformed. They can't prosecute and terrorize the population if jurors -- guaranteed in criminal trials by the Constitution -- automatically refuse to convict.
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Ditto. Jury nullification in all cases. If an FBI or SS man is providing testimony or evidence, assume it's a lie and throw the case out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (WWh8n)

17 Ah, the good ol' days, when Red Flag Laws were perfectly fine because a judge oversaw that stuff.

Shall we give them all the benefit of the doubt ?

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (/cCOr)

18 They = Repubs

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

19 Nobody with an IQ over 80 would believe the FBI if they said they 'found' evidence at Trump's house. Some might pretend it wasn't planted, but they would know.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (lTGtQ)

20 And hey, Mike....maybe you should have fucking raided Hillary's home.

Just a thought.

We are in the Will to Power game now, in the land of the wolves. Be a wolf, be a sheep, or get the fuck out of here.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (XvPQV)

21 11 Yes...the warrant issued by a judge who used to be Epstein's best buddy. An intimate friend, as it were.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 12:05 PM (XvPQV)

Judge probably though he would be "Epsteined" if he didn't cooperate

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (bs+z0)

22 Judge that approved warrant is undoubtedly on the Epstein list...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (ynpvh)

23 What restrains us now?
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State power and the total subversion of all state institutions. Go ahead and *try* to get a warrant for Hunter Biden. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (WWh8n)

24 Newe flash on my stock account: Courts just approved giving Trump's tax returns to the House Ways and Means committee.
This is it people. 87000 new IRS agents to hunt us down.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (Y+l9t)

25 19 Nobody with an IQ over 80 would believe the FBI if they said they 'found' evidence at Trump's house. Some might pretend it wasn't planted, but they would know.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (lTGtQ)

========

"I'd believe it."
-Ed Morrisey

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

26 In shocked that the lawyer who protected Epstein and his friends would rubber stamp a warrant against the guy who kicked Epstein out of his club (the club raided) when he found out Epstein was a pedo. Yeah no bias there at all.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (ApeEc)

27 Returning to regular budgetary order, passing individual budget and appropriations bills by department, and then halving the DOJ's budget while denying the left the ability to hold the DOD budget at the same time.

You are correct, sir!

Regarding Kevin McCarthy's statement, they FIB and DOJ will quote Andrew Jackson if they take over in '23: "Congress has made its decision, not let them enforce it"

See statement above.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (/NCI4)

28 Paging Franz Kafka

I think there is a new book you need to write.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (q7Stn)

29 19 Nobody with an IQ over 80 would believe the FBI if they said they 'found' evidence at Trump's house. Some might pretend it wasn't planted, but they would know.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (lTGtQ)

If its written in crayola, it's probably Joe's work.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (ynpvh)

30 >> and how the very fact The Regime secured one against Trump proves that the evidence against him is bountiful, robust, and impeccable.

Ah yes, to be investigated proves one's guilt -- no trial needed!

F%$# Fusion Ken and the rest of Team Coup, brazen lawlessness for at least 7 years now.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2022 12:08 PM (I/doM)

31 If you own the judge I don't expect getting any warrant is very difficult.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 12:08 PM (cTCuP)

32 it's past time for state governors to refuse to cooperate with the feds. I wish Ken would do so here in VA. how great would it be for VA to ONCE AGAIN be against the federal leviathan while on it's front porch pissing in the flowerbed...

Posted by: SturmToddler (po3vF) at August 09, 2022 12:08 PM (WhsXQ)

33 They actually believe in what they are doing and will die for it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (mZ3xv)

I disagree that they would put their lives on the line.

They're only as courageous as Gaslight Inc. allows them to be. If we had a legitimate media you couldn't get theze p*ssies to raid a crackhouse.

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:08 PM (dCxaZ)

34 "I'd believe it."
-Ed Morrisey

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

You just proved my point.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 09, 2022 12:08 PM (lTGtQ)

35 The alleged "Republican Senate" is just a division of nevertrump. McConnell is not on your side.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 09, 2022 12:08 PM (2hOms)

36 Corrupt judge ??? NOWAY!! Lol

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2022 12:08 PM (AVI/t)

37 Well Ken is a fucking idiot and a liar so that might explain why he is always wrong.

A federal judge did NOT sign off on this warrant. It was a US magistrate judge. Not nominated by a POTUS and not confirmed by the Senate.

He's a political hack.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (ZLI7S)

38 I'm surprised McCarthy's tweet didn't end with "Donate Now!"

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (DRSnL)

39 The Process IS the Punishment.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (rDJo+)

40 Trump should have stored his alleged documents where Hillary stored her bathroom email server.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (q7Stn)

41 Maybe they 'find' evidence that Trump colluded with Epstein.

Maybe they 'find' evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians.

Maybe they 'find' evidence that Trump ordered the election overturned.

Maybe they 'find' Bigfoot.

The possibilities are endless and the fact they just grabbed random closed boxes and left is intentional.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (mZ3xv)

42 And what will NeverTrump say then about MuhNormzzz? They've blessed this tactic every single time it's been deployed against Trump or his people.
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They will say that this is different, of course. It's an easy game to play.

"I think the FBI's actions against Trump are clear weaponization."
"No, it isn't, because we have checks and balances."

"This was a well-predicated raid against a Democrat candidate with a checkered criminal past."
"No, it isn't, because the courts were subverted by Trump and this red state is engaging in clear weaponization of law enforcement."

And call them hypocrites and call out their obvious double-standard all you like. They don't care.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (WWh8n)

43 You just proved my point.

That was HIS point.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (/NCI4)

44 I know everyone wants to "do" something. But what? I've been called once for jury duty in almost 20 years of living here, and I don't live near a fed courthouse; so I'm helpless with Ace's suggestion. Not a gov, not a pol, just an average human. People talk about average humans being LIV or "asleep," but I think we are just trying to survive.

Posted by: Catherine at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (ZSsrh)

45 28 Paging Franz Kafka

I think there is a new book you need to write.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (q7Stn)

Paging the God of the Old Testament.

When does the smiting start?

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (dCxaZ)

46 NYP says that the judge Reinhart that signed the warrant for Trump used to work for Epstein...

https://archive.ph/LjKz3

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (zB/T/)

47 IN: Federal Judges Only Issue Warrants to Raid Presidents With Compelling Evidence

or you get an affirmative action judge like Emmet Sullivan to issue a warrant with his low wattage brain.

Posted by: x at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (ZC2go)

48 The kicker is that the Stasi didn't even get a Federal Judge to sign off on the Warrant, they got a Magistrate Judge to sign off.

There is no going back to normal after this.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (t9WRg)

49 27 You are correct, sir!

Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (/NCI4)

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Thank you. I keep repeating it because people need to learn it.

A GOP Congress with a Biden presidency is not powerless. It is far from powerless. It is powerful. The base needs to understand how a GOP Congress is powerful, so they can hound their congresscritters for something that could lead to positive action, not more yelling at unfireable bureaucrats for Internet Points. Merrick Garland won't take any criminal referrals from GOP committees and do anything with them except wipe his ass with them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (LvTSG)

50 Nobody with an IQ over 80 would believe the FBI if they said they 'found' evidence at Trump's house. Some might pretend it wasn't planted, but they would know.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

Trump had WMDs!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (FVME7)

51 I renew a suggestion for an action that all Americans can take to show their rejection of Oligarchic Rule: Automatic acquittal in all federal prosecution cases until the federal government is reformed.

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"Not to worry, comrade -- we are excavating & expanding the Garland Archipelago where you will languish sans charges & trials until death do you depart!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (+lwg5)

52 David French is just the house eunuch for nevertrump. All holes bring glory.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (2hOms)

53 I will say this, though: any attempt to use these tactics against Democrats will be shut down by the all-Democrat DC juries. We need to disband the DC Circuit before we can ever get real justice again.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (x/Zt2)

54 You must be guilty! We arrested you!!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty of BAD TRUMPY MANS! at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (kPy0C)

55 Hot Air is sort of getting it, but they're still waiting to see how this turns out.

This is the actual headline...

Too good to check: Is the DoJ trying to disqualify Trump for 2024?

Written by Ed Morrissey of course. Head cuck.

Posted by: MJ at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (zwDuR)

56 39 The Process IS the Punishment.

Who said that?

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (AVI/t)

57 GOP candidate Kari Lake invoked the 10th Amendment in her statement about the raid at MAL.

Lake hasn't backed down and she didn't toss Trump under the bus.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (5pTK/)

58 So the fact that the FBI got warrants to wiretap MLK means that MLK was a bad guy?

Posted by: 29Victor at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (BJKQV)

59 If I had enough money to do it, I'd do billboard buys throughout the country that say very simply, "Federal Law Enforcement is corrupt. If you're on a jury where they're involved, vote to acquit."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (WWh8n)

60 They really need Judge Emmit Sullivan to be king of FISA warrants. District of Chazz Circuit Court is the Snizz.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (sVfvf)

61 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

IRS
FBI
Biden
The entire federal government

Posted by: mpfs, Trump 2024. That is all. at August 09, 2022 12:11 PM (HkqBs)

62 McCarthy is happy that he can use this as his rally cry for November, rather than invest the time into drawing up his own Contract With America.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at August 09, 2022 12:11 PM (TNyrE)

63 Regarding the two Mc's -- McCarthy and McConnell -- all I can say is it's too bad we outlawed tarring and feathering. Some people deserve it.

Posted by: red speck at August 09, 2022 12:11 PM (gS3OW)

64 >> The Process IS the Punishment.

Yup. How does Trump defend himself when they've carted off all of his docs, etc.?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2022 12:11 PM (I/doM)

65 They will find whatever the FBI needs them to find to remove Trump from running

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:11 PM (bs+z0)

66 When does the smiting start?
Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (dCxaZ)

Can you get in trouble for gloating when the rapture starts?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 09, 2022 12:11 PM (zB/T/)

67 I just got back from the barber, and she had some choice words about the IRS going Stasi. Barbers, as you can imagine, are in the top tier for getting audited, being a largely cash business. Also, she and her husband have a few rental properties, and that's fertile ground for audits (report a place vacant, fudge a little on repair costs). She is expecting a few of the newly minted auditors to be slithering around their businesses as soon as Retardo crayons his name on the bill.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 09, 2022 12:11 PM (lz5hY)

68 Yes...the warrant issued by a judge who used to be Epstein's best buddy. An intimate friend, as it were.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 12:05 PM (XvPQV)

Judge probably though he would be "Epsteined" if he didn't cooperate
Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (bs+z0)

he's probably very familiar with Hillary's handiwork, so to speak...

Posted by: SturmToddler (po3vF) at August 09, 2022 12:11 PM (WhsXQ)

69 36 Corrupt judge ??? NOWAY!! Lol

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2022 12:08 PM (AVI/t)

I saw a case where the judge went from being critical of the actions of one party to being extremely deferrential and finding for that same party, even as that party continued to thumb its nose at the court. I can't say if that litigant had dirt on the judge, but it makes you wonder...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:11 PM (ynpvh)

70 it's like I always say, if you let your party leaders surrender for 3 decades to leftwing lawfare, you're going to be in trouble.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 09, 2022 12:11 PM (OuH7W)

71 The article quoted in "More fantastic linking from ProgressivePundit" from the sidebar is absurd, stupid and childish enough to be offensive to a thinking man.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 12:11 PM (WWh8n)

72 I'm surprised McCarthy's tweet didn't end with "Donate Now!"
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (DRSnL)
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Dammit! I knew I was forgetting something.

Posted by: Kevin McCarthy at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (5pTK/)

73 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (Zz0t1)

74 Fusion Ken has a password on his laptop, which means he's collecting illegal images. Why else would someone password protect their laptop?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (mZ3xv)

75 It's really hard to read that Constitution with all the poo stains on it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (Zz0t1)

76 If the Rapture happens, you won't be on this Earth to gloat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (q7Stn)

77 I know everyone wants to "do" something. But what? I've been called once for jury duty in almost 20 years of living here, and I don't live near a fed courthouse; so I'm helpless with Ace's suggestion. Not a gov, not a pol, just an average human. People talk about average humans being LIV or "asleep," but I think we are just trying to survive.

Precinct strategy is a starting point.

https://precinctstrategy.com/

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (Bd6X8)

78 The Mattress tags were removed at Mar-a-Lago !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (S+j2h)

79 41 Maybe they 'find' evidence that Trump colluded with Epstein.
Maybe they 'find' evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians.
Maybe they 'find' evidence that Trump ordered the election overturned.
Maybe they 'find' Bigfoot.
The possibilities are endless and the fact they just grabbed random closed boxes and left is intentional.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (mZ3xv)

Supposedly they found evidence in Trump's toilet...no kidding.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (ynpvh)

80 "Federal Judges Only Issue Warrants to Raid Presidents With Compelling Evidence"

What should scare everyone is that federal judges are now part of the corruption. Anyone who believes the statement above is either a liar or to obtuse to realize the rules have changed. This is a Democrat Party conspiracy.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (2hOms)

81 Roberts is responsible for the FISA court, right? It would be nice if he called the FISA court judge in and started reading him the riot act.

I crack myself up.

Posted by: WiNO at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (EpDzw)

82 Anyone made the crack about this being a grand MAL seizure yet?

Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 12:13 PM (VJsqe)

83 and these clapping seal fascists just want to put trump in jail for crimes to be determined later. They don't care if the standard to do so would put themselves in jail.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 09, 2022 12:13 PM (OuH7W)

84

When Republicans take back the house > Wait until your father gets home

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 09, 2022 12:13 PM (63Dwl)

85 45 28 Paging Franz Kafka

I think there is a new book you need to write.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (q7Stn)

Paging the God of the Old Testament.
When does the smiting start?
Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (dCxaZ)

God of the New Testament could be smitey as well.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:13 PM (ynpvh)

86 Quick, someone green light six new shows about the FBI to show what great guys they are!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 09, 2022 12:13 PM (KbCG3)

87 66 When does the smiting start?
Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (dCxaZ)

Can you get in trouble for gloating when the rapture starts?
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Fuck smiting. Go full smote and be done with it.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 09, 2022 12:13 PM (sVfvf)

88 They'll never cheat in an election tho.

Posted by: I Mean at August 09, 2022 12:14 PM (9FBGz)

89 Who is the Foreigner? Do people ignore what FISA means?

Posted by: Fisht at August 09, 2022 12:14 PM (ZRarh)

90 The clowns at the FBI are never going to find those documents. Trump's security is better than theirs.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 12:14 PM (cTCuP)

91 The federal government cannot enforce any laws without the help of state and local.

The Obamacare decision was clear one one point: The federal government cannot force states to enforce its laws.

I said it at the time and I'll say it again: Any state can repeal any federal law within its borders with a single line.

"No state resources may be used, directly or indirectly, to enforce any provisions of ____ law"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 09, 2022 12:14 PM (hqgRM)

92 I will say this, though: any attempt to use these tactics against Democrats will be shut down by the all-Democrat DC juries. We need to disband the DC Circuit before we can ever get real justice again.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (x/Zt2)

Anything dealing with DC should be randomly assigned to another circuit court.

Posted by: WiNO at August 09, 2022 12:14 PM (EpDzw)

93 When Republicans take back the house > Wait until your father gets home

Kid, "but Daddy ran off with his secretary three years ago..."

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 09, 2022 12:14 PM (q7Stn)

94 I would hate to be Bill Barr's water bottle today.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at August 09, 2022 12:14 PM (VbI7r)

95 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE, KEVIN MCCARTHY BELIEVES THE BASE BELIEVES HE'LL ACTUALLY TAKE HIS PUD OUT OF LUNTZ'S BOTTOM FOR A MINUTE AND ACTUALLY GET TOUGH.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at August 09, 2022 12:14 PM (m7R0k)

96 49 27 You are correct, sir!

Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 12:07 PM (/NCI4)

=========

Thank you. I keep repeating it because people need to learn it.

A GOP Congress with a Biden presidency is not powerless. It is far from powerless. It is powerful. The base needs to understand how a GOP Congress is powerful, so they can hound their congresscritters for something that could lead to positive action, not more yelling at unfireable bureaucrats for Internet Points. Merrick Garland won't take any criminal referrals from GOP committees and do anything with them except wipe his ass with them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (LvTSG)

Which eGOP or RINOs is NOT going to split from the flock?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

97 If this "always acquit" strategy actually took off, they would just screen for it in voir dire. And likely start prosecuting jurors for lying...

Posted by: Liberty at August 09, 2022 12:14 PM (zvNIu)

98 Supposedly they found evidence in Trump's toilet...no kidding.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (ynpvh)

I saw that earlier - somebody took pics of perfectly placed "ripped up" notes just laying in the toilet. Not even a nice toilet - you know that Trump would have Toto's in his garage. Fucking nuts, but that's where we are now.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 09, 2022 12:14 PM (zB/T/)

99 What should scare everyone is that federal judges are now part of the corruption. Anyone who believes the statement above is either a liar or to obtuse to realize the rules have changed. This is a Democrat Party conspiracy.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (2hOms)
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Judge Sullivan was chastised and told to get it right with his persecution of General Flynn. He ignored those instructions. That's when I truly realized how corrupt our judiciary is.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (5pTK/)

100 I renew a suggestion for an action that all Americans can take to show their rejection of Oligarchic Rule: Automatic acquittal in all federal prosecution cases until the federal government is reformed. They can't prosecute and terrorize the population if jurors -- guaranteed in criminal trials by the Constitution -- automatically refuse to convict.

This right here is a no-brainer. Folks will not be avoiding jury duty anymore, especially not fed prosecutions.

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (dCxaZ)

101 Nobody with an IQ over 80 would believe the FBI if they said they 'found' evidence at Trump's house. Some might pretend it wasn't planted, but they would know.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (lTGtQ)

Exactly. No one is going to believe anything they "find."

Posted by: WiNO at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (EpDzw)

102 SturmToddler (po3vF) at August 09, 2022 12:08 PM (WhsXQ)

what the hell, when did my hash change?

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsX) at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (WhsXQ)

103 I know it would be hard for some but any liberal acquaintance that even hints at nothing being wrong with this raid is dead to me and I'll let them know in no uncertain terms.

I can't do anything about the Commie Dems doing this but I can cut off their useful idiots.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (sWbrH)

104 G Men = Garland Men

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (mZ3xv)

105 Supposedly they found evidence in Trump's toilet...no kidding.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (ynpvh)

Of course that "story" came out the same day as the raid... What a coincidence... If you look at the photo's of the toilet one has to wonder if the WH needs remodeling... The baseboards visible were dirty and the toilet itself was cheap.... I'm sure if Trump was so worried about certain papers that he flushed them down the toilet one would think he would make sure they actually went down

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (bs+z0)

106 Just because they got a warrant does not mean it was a legal warrant. (or so Mike Davis says, on with Bannon ... Rumble link) He says to get a legit warrant for such a raid, have to prove the person is not cooperating and could destroy records.

https://tinyurl.com/37mpabsc

Posted by: illiniwek at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (Cus5s)

107 David Axelrod@davidaxelrod
One thing is very clear.
Garland would not have authorized this raid, and no federal judge would have signed off on it, if there weren't significant evidence to warrant it.

-
Very clear. Very, very clear. Very damn clear!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (FVME7)

108 58 So the fact that the FBI got warrants to wiretap MLK means that MLK was a bad guy?

Posted by: 29Victor at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (BJKQV)

Well...supposedly he did some bad stuff, but not the reason he was wiretapped.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:16 PM (ynpvh)

109 God of the New Testament could be smitey as well.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:13 PM (ynpvh)

He hasn't really proved it yet though.

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:16 PM (dCxaZ)

110 Breitbart said it best.
Posted by: Bosk at August 09, 2022 12:04 PM (v4L7Y)

https://youtu.be/FhSy-6VqIww

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 12:16 PM (Zz0t1)

111 these fash lunatics have been convinced that trump's done something wrong for 5 years. They're "just fining" it while their party becomes a mafia enterprise selling the wires from our walls in late stage looting.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 09, 2022 12:16 PM (OuH7W)

112 That's one strongly worded letter from McCarthy. The Republic is saved!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 12:16 PM (U3uv2)

113 62 >>>McCarthy is happy that he can use this as his rally cry for November, rather than invest the time into drawing up his own Contract With America.

I can't remember who it was (Joe Concha?) but he was interviewing Matt Schlapp and suggested the GOP needs to do less talking about how bad Biden is or how unfair the election was and start talking up what they plan to DO -- to write up a quick list, like the Contract with America that people can connect with. Schlapp instantly dismissed that as a bad idea and returned to his Biden-Bad bullshit.

The GOP will never learn if it keeps listening to the Schlapps and McConnells and Roves and useless has-beens. Trump loved to dump on the failures of his enemies, but he also played out a vision of what the country *could be.*

Posted by: red speck at August 09, 2022 12:16 PM (gS3OW)

114 Exactly. No one is going to believe anything they "find."
Posted by: WiNO at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (EpDzw)

Unfortunately, half the population has double digit IQ's. And they're probably scarfing SSRI's like potato chips.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 09, 2022 12:17 PM (zB/T/)

115 You know they waited to execute the warrant after Brandon got his legislation passed. Good job GOPe. You failed, on purpose, again.

Posted by: WiNO at August 09, 2022 12:17 PM (EpDzw)

116 Silver lining...

Trump supporters aren't going to have to worry about being called for jury duty.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 12:17 PM (cTCuP)

117 I bet TRump wishes he had fulfilled his campaign promise to "lock her up!" regarding Hillary. So much of this is because he blinked on that with her Deep State operatives.

Same with the "draining the swamp!"promise, then makes Wray Director of the FBI (after asking Comey to stay on).

Trump doesn't deserve any of this, it's an American coup, but Trump is also the worst guy to "fix it".

Posted by: Victory at August 09, 2022 12:17 PM (cDOKD)

118 If we see a Democrat -- any Democrat, including one running for any office -- for whom we have any probable cause of suspicion of committing any crime, send the police raiding parties, slap on the leg irons.

This sounds great. Except for the fact that "the police" work exclusively for the progressives.

Posted by: Methos at August 09, 2022 12:17 PM (kOpft)

119 David Axelrod@davidaxelrod
One thing is very clear.
Garland would not have authorized this raid, and no federal judge would have signed off on it, if there weren't significant evidence to warrant it.

Die. Just die. Painfully.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)

120 Everyone, we need to trust the government on this one.

They would never do something to try to humiliate or discredit Donald Trump without a really, really good reason.

Posted by: MJ at August 09, 2022 12:17 PM (zwDuR)

121 75 It's really hard to read that Constitution with all the poo stains on it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (Zz0t1)

They look more like skid marks...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:17 PM (ynpvh)

122 The flaw to this argument is that assuming the GOP would be running the Justice Dept. even if they win the election. The bureaucracy is Democrat.

Posted by: DFCtomm at August 09, 2022 12:17 PM (OHy0b)

123 it would be great if by 2024 we gained enough senate seats to start impeaching some of these judges

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 09, 2022 12:17 PM (OuH7W)

124 The warrant is from a FISA court. I can understand why they went to that well again, it gave them a warrant last time as part of the Russiagate hoax BS.

And Fusion Ken, getting a warrant isn't all that hard. Getting it from a FISA court means even less oversight.

Posted by: Penfold at August 09, 2022 12:18 PM (Fbt5B)

125 No matter how much you doubt a Republican Congress there comes a point where even the most timid guy has had enough and will fight back. I'm definitely willing to give them a chance. What other choice do we have at this point other than actual war.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (sWbrH)

126 >>Anyone made the crack about this being a grand MAL seizure yet?

ROTFL

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (I/doM)

127 It would be funny if the FBI found nothing but pictures of Hunter-smoking crack and molesting girls.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (eGTCV)

128 102 SturmToddler (po3vF) at August 09, 2022 12:08 PM (WhsXQ)

what the hell, when did my hash change?
Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsX) at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (WhsXQ)

Did you power cycle anything recently? Router update maybe?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (XvPQV)

129 they have:

a groomer judge that rubber stamped a warrant.

we have:

witness and hunter's laptop certifying that biden sells influence to the chinese.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (OuH7W)

130 David Axelrod@davidaxelrod

One thing is very clear.
Garland would not have authorized this raid, and no federal judge would have signed off on it, if there weren't significant evidence to warrant it.

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"It's the SERIOUSNESS of the charge that mandates these actions!"

[h/t El Rushbo]

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (+lwg5)

131 The GOPe is always all Goober when it's time to fight back.

Ah shucks! Gooollleeey! Wish they was sumthin we kood do but gee whiz.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (mZ3xv)

132 119 David Axelrod@davidaxelrod
One thing is very clear.
Garland would not have authorized this raid, and no federal judge would have signed off on it, if there weren't significant evidence to warrant it.

Doesn't matter if he's guilty or not... It's the spectacle

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (bs+z0)

133 >I'm sure if Trump was so worried about certain papers that he flushed them down the toilet one would think he would make sure they actually went down

this is a detail about the whole affair that I find completely ridiculous- Trump, in the White House, flushing documents down a toilet

Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (geLO8)

134 I'm sure if Trump was so worried about certain papers that he flushed them down the toilet one would think he would make sure they actually went down
Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (bs+z0)

They sure AF wouldn't look like they'd just been placed face-up, and in roughly 4"x5" size. But the people who want to believe will, and the media will keep pushing it as long as somebody pays attention.

This is such a meme-able photo I can't wait to see turns up in the next few hours.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (zB/T/)

135 98 Supposedly they found evidence in Trump's toilet...no kidding.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (ynpvh)

I saw that earlier - somebody took pics of perfectly placed "ripped up" notes just laying in the toilet. Not even a nice toilet - you know that Trump would have Toto's in his garage. Fucking nuts, but that's where we are now.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 09, 2022 12:14 PM (zB/T/)

Well, it is fitting; it's all a bunch of shit.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (ynpvh)

136 This so called democratic epstein "Judge" is not a senate confirmed Federal Judge, but a locally appointed buyllshit federal political "Judge"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (FHzKS)

137
Trump had WMDs!!!

Hostess Yellow Cake

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (63Dwl)

138 Judge Reinhart warrant-signer is Epstein buddy:

Miranda Devine @mirandadevine
Sealed search warrant here signed by Bruce E Reinhart, magistrate judge for the Southern District of Florida

Links in thread from Ginger Jones include Epstein link info like this one:
https://twitter.com/DDenouncement/status/
1556977677097226243

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (yikp0)

139 And what will NeverTrump say then about MuhNormzzz?

They need to be aggressively ignored. Aggressively.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (IEa8U)

140 Silver lining...

Trump supporters aren't going to have to worry about being called for jury duty.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 12:17 PM (cTCuP)

lol

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (U3uv2)

141 Serious question, what exactly could the republicans do to wray after he lied to them and went on vacation?

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (bVYXr)

142 127 It would be funny if the FBI found nothing but pictures of Hunter-smoking crack and molesting girls.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (eGTCV)

Lolol

In a weird twist of events, the FBI now has the Hunter Biden laptop and many of Hillary's emails.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (mZ3xv)

143
Die. Just die. Painfully.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)

that old proverb about "only the good die young" gets proven every day

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (dCxaZ)

144 You must be guilty! We arrested you!!

Anybody else remember the days of "If you have nothing to fear, you have nothing to hide ?".

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (/cCOr)

145 101 Nobody with an IQ over 80 would believe the FBI if they said they 'found' evidence at Trump's house. Some might pretend it wasn't planted, but they would know.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 09, 2022 12:06 PM (lTGtQ)

Exactly. No one is going to believe anything they "find."

Posted by: WiNO at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (EpDzw)

The Democrat Base and the Corrupted Media (BIRM) will believe.

Posted by: Gref at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (AMIL/)

146 125 No matter how much you doubt a Republican Congress there comes a point where even the most timid guy has had enough and will fight back. I'm definitely willing to give them a chance. What other choice do we have at this point other than actual war.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (sWbrH)

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The GOPe gets richer and fatter by not fighting back. They're in this for the money and power and nothing else.

Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (VJsqe)

147 David Axelrod@davidaxelrod
One thing is very clear.
Garland would not have authorized this raid, and no federal judge would have signed off on it, if there weren't significant evidence to warrant it. ----

The Left have the memory of a gnat.

History only starts yesterday for them.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (sWbrH)

148 This is just raw power politics under the this veil of legal process. There will he no real explanations, as everyone knows the truth.

Trump should run in the old patronage system, as that is really the only peaceful path forward. We have probably gone beyond a truly peaceful existence as a nation though.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (TzR9i)

149 well, you know, it's been going on for a decade:

Tom Delay
Rick Perry
Wisconsin's John Doe raids
Ted Stevens
The IRS/OSHA harassment of tea party members
2020 riots being state protected actions

and a thousand other little paper cuts that never even made little conservative websites.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (OuH7W)

150 This is some epic fantasy from USA Today

[The inflation reduction act] To be slightly more explanatory: Record U.S. investment in climate and clean energy, expected to reduce carbon emissions 31% and 44% from 2005 levels by 2030 and energy costs over the long run. Overdue authority for Medicare to negotiate lower drug prices. A 15% minimum tax for corporations with profits of at least $1 billion. A cash infusion for an IRS so depleted that rich tax evaders aren’t getting caught. And about $300 billion in deficit reduction, which economists say creates downward pressure on inflation and helps the Federal Reserve do its job.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 12:21 PM (R8uWY)

151 Anyone made the crack about this being a grand MAL seizure yet?

Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 12:13 PM (VJsqe)

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* golfclap *

Hey, I just got an idea for a new dystopian video game ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 12:21 PM (+lwg5)

152 They might get rid Of Trump, but they will find it harder to get rid of Us

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:21 PM (bs+z0)

153 81 >>>Roberts is responsible for the FISA court, right? It would be nice if he called the FISA court judge in and started reading him the riot act.

Yeah... he'll get right on that as soon as he figures out who leaked the Alito decision.

Posted by: red speck at August 09, 2022 12:21 PM (gS3OW)

154 This is one of those days that I'll have to leave the Horde and go to my happy place to avoid stroking out.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 09, 2022 12:21 PM (FVME7)

155 106 Just because they got a warrant does not mean it was a legal warrant. (or so Mike Davis says, on with Bannon ... Rumble link) He says to get a legit warrant for such a raid, have to prove the person is not cooperating and could destroy records.

https://tinyurl.com/37mpabsc

Posted by: illiniwek at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (Cus5s)

He refused to admit his guilt, and had papers, therefore he COULD burn them and they were in danger!--FIB

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:21 PM (ynpvh)

156 @Thomas Paine
Their forberors did the same sort of thing (only to the president's men not to the president) Conservatives just forget history every generation. The second president sent feds after Jefferson's supporters. Lest you forget history, the federal government was born bad, it didn't become bad later.

Posted by: DocMerlin at August 09, 2022 12:21 PM (jRh4q)

157 Judge Reinhart warrant-signer is Epstein buddy:

https://twitter.com/DDenouncement/status/
1556977677097226243

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (yikp0)

Paul Sperry @PaulSperry30

BREAKING: FBI supervisory analyst who rubber-stamped the 2016 dossier w/o vetting and wrote 2020 "disinformation" assessment derailing Hunter Biden investigation is a leader in a DC-area church that was investigated for covering up child sex abuse inclg child rape & molestation

https://tinyurl.com/mrxxrta5

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 12:21 PM (U3uv2)

158 The kicker is that the Stasi didn't even get a Federal Judge to sign off on the Warrant, they got a Magistrate Judge to sign off.

There is no going back to normal after this.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 09, 2022 12:10 PM (t9WRg)

you know, that's a great point. i don't think it clicked for me until I read this.

so it's not enough that they raided MAL, BUT they used the DC office to do it AND they couldn't even convince a federal judge to sign off, they had to get a local guy.

who they JUST happen to know had ties to epstein...

yup, looks 100% above board to me...

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 09, 2022 12:21 PM (WhsXQ)

159 You all don't get it. This just became irrelevant. They are getting years and years worth of Trump's tax returns. The House Ways and Means Committee. They just have to leak innuendo about Trump's deals and associates, question every deduction etc. Do you have any how complex that stuff is?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 09, 2022 12:21 PM (Y+l9t)

160 yeah, that's why trump grabbed the wheel while grabbing the secret service agents' pussy because he had to get back to the white house to tear up documents that clearly show [note to self, try to figure out what crime we could be talking about].

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 09, 2022 12:22 PM (OuH7W)

161 Ken Dilanian purports to describe the established "process for getting a search warrant against a former President".

There is no process. It's without precedent in our history for a poorly polling politician to cause the FBI to raid his opponent in an upcoming Presidential election, as a fishing expedition.

Dilanian is a useless hack, a deep-state tool, an Obama employee seconded right now to MSDNC. It nauseates me to see these evil people cloaking themselves in legal process to somehow try justifying what everyone knows is an ongoing political jihad that has gone on non-stop since 2016. Fuck you, Democrats.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 12:22 PM (lFE5c)

162 109 God of the New Testament could be smitey as well.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:13 PM (ynpvh)

He hasn't really proved it yet though.
Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:16 PM (dCxaZ)

He will, one day...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

163 141 Serious question, what exactly could the republicans do to wray after he lied to them and went on vacation?
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (bVYXr)

They could do a lot........... if they had balls.

Posted by: DFCtomm at August 09, 2022 12:22 PM (OHy0b)

164 i don't see how we ever come back from this. they just opened a can of whoopass. civil war has begun.

Posted by: joe fingerblaster at August 09, 2022 12:22 PM (8RQir)

165 They will say that this is different, of course. It's an easy game to play.

"I think the FBI's actions against Trump are clear weaponization." "No, it isn't, because we have checks and balances."

"This was a well-predicated raid against a Democrat candidate with a checkered criminal past."
"No, it isn't, because the courts were subverted by Trump and this red state is engaging in clear weaponization of law enforcement."

And call them hypocrites and call out their obvious double-standard all you like. They don't care.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (WWh8n)
CORRECT SIR!

We need to play the game by their rules and that is all. The next conservative president needs to make this come back times 1000 on the destructocrats and the media and corporate heads.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 09, 2022 12:22 PM (u4CEu)

166 >> David Axelrod@davidaxelrod
One thing is very clear.
Garland would not have authorized this raid, and no federal judge would have signed off on it, if there weren't significant evidence to warrant it.

OK, now do overturning Roe.

We live in a world where the prominent voices contradict themselves daily and the MSM uncritically parrot it.

Which is it, Axe, judges are partisan hacks forcing personal values/politics on us or judges are reticent to take dramatic, unprecedented action unless there is overwhelming legal reason to?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (I/doM)

167 that dipshit biden is explaining that price controls for medical treatment is the anti-inflationary effect of the brokeback sniffer bill.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (OuH7W)

168 . People talk about average humans being LIV or "asleep," but I think we are just trying to survive.

Posted by: Catherine at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (ZSsrh)

In a way but there is also a lot of people asleep. Many politically astute and attentive people are more asleep than your average LIV.

I have marginally more respect for the people with "no opinion" because "both sides suck" than a lot of others. But neither they nor the others are particularly helpful.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (/6Rxy)

169 When do they just assassinate Trump? I’m not joking. They’ve done it before. They even murdered pregnant women and children at Waco and Ruby Ridge and nobody did nothing about it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (reQRc)

170 We're public guardians bold, yet wary
And of ourselves we take good care
To risk our precious lives we're chary
When anger looms, we're never there
But when we meet a helpless woman
Or little boys that do no harm
We run them in, we run them in
We run them in, we run them in
We show them we're the bold gendarmes

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (1Nxff)

171 That toilet story is so off the wall, it's funny. If PDT wanted to destroy documents, it would be done in a luxurious way. The Resolute desk probably has a shredder/pulverizer/Martian disintegrator in the bottom drawer. Retardo hasn't figured it out, just feeds the stuff to Major the dog.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (lz5hY)

172 Here's a fantasy scenario: when the Republicans take the House (ideally, the Senate, too), they instantly set all agencies' fund at 10% of the current level, and then bargain from there. A friend who used to work in the government told me that, if you set it at 0, you automatically get last year's level as the base to work from. But if you have an actual amount, that is the base.

Of course, we should call in the Rohirim while we're at it.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (TgBWG)

173 https://tinyurl.com/mrxxrta5

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 12:21 PM (U3uv2)

He wrote that in the present tense.

He "is" a leader...he's still there? What church is this?

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (dCxaZ)

174 127 It would be funny if the FBI found nothing but pictures of Hunter-smoking crack and molesting girls.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (eGTCV)

He'd be arrested for possession of child porn...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (ynpvh)

175 There are a bunch of videos of Hunter Biden snorting coke and having sex with hookers (both over and under age).

Presuming he didn't turn off geolocation on those videos you know where it happened.

Anyone know where Hunter spends most of his time? There is nothing stopping state police from arresting him if he did it in their state...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (ESjRY)

176 I think I'll rip up some papers, put names and messages on them, place them in a toilet, take pictures and in 2024 accuse the Biden/Harris administration of destroying evidence by sharing the pics on social media.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (NpAcC)

177 The time has come for the red states to start acting in concert as a power check against the increasingly lawless Democrat/Uniparty/Federal Bureaucracy/Media complex. This is not to be confused with succession but a vigorous defense of the US Constitution and through that assert the powers reserved to the individual states. Events have progressed so far now that no single state can check this out of control Federal government. 25 or so states acting in concert would be formidable opponent.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 09, 2022 12:24 PM (FF+On)

178 The GOPe gets richer and fatter by not fighting back. They're in this for the money and power and nothing else.
Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (VJsqe)

I don't hold that opinion in general but even if it were 100% accurate, the Left are jeopardizing it. If they can go after a former President they can go after any GOPe politician. That's the opposite of having power for the GOPe.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 09, 2022 12:24 PM (sWbrH)

179 141 Serious question, what exactly could the republicans do to wray after he lied to them and went on vacation?
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (bVYXr)

They could do a lot........... if they had balls.

Posted by: DFCtomm
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So nothing then

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 09, 2022 12:24 PM (u4CEu)

180 Mitch has had himself a pretty good week

passed the BBB bill while voting against it

got Trump's home raided without his fingerprints on it

and completely turn his new boy Scott into sniveling lackey

even that Machi guy would be impressed

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:24 PM (us2H3)

181 130 David Axelrod@davidaxelrod
One thing is very clear.
Garland would not have authorized this raid, and no federal judge would have signed off on it, if there weren't significant evidence to warrant it.
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"It's the SERIOUSNESS of the charge that mandates these actions!"
[h/t El Rushbo]
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (+lwg5)

So the FIB went from "Show us your papers" to "We're here to take your papers"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:24 PM (ynpvh)

182 well, look at it this way: they fucked up. They did this outside of DC. The new doj will have to prosecute these FBI guys in southern florida and not in dc. start throwing teh alphabets in jail.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 09, 2022 12:24 PM (OuH7W)

183 Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (I/doM)

Whoa. Hey. Are you back-back? Missed you.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:24 PM (/6Rxy)

184 They are getting years and years worth of Trump's tax returns.

...

Mueller already went through all of that.

His team went through everything.

Posted by: I Mean at August 09, 2022 12:24 PM (9FBGz)

185 Ric Grenell earlier today, the DOJ/FBI/State needs to be cleaned up, not eliminated. LOLGF

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 12:24 PM (m7R0k)

186 No matter how much you doubt a Republican Congress there comes a point where even the most timid guy has had enough and will fight back. I'm definitely willing to give them a chance. What other choice do we have at this point other than actual war.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (sWbrH)

Good grief, I feel like I did when I had to break it to my kids that there was no Santa Claus here. Like when I figured out that the whole "Rock 'n' Roll Express / Midnight Express" thing was a sham. Turns out, Robert Gibson really could talk, Jim Cornette turned the tennis racket sideways at the last moment, and the coughed up blood was fake.

Don't know what to tell you. It's all fake.

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (/cCOr)

187 134 I'm sure if Trump was so worried about certain papers that he flushed them down the toilet one would think he would make sure they actually went down
Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (bs+z0)

They sure AF wouldn't look like they'd just been placed face-up, and in roughly 4"x5" size. But the people who want to believe will, and the media will keep pushing it as long as somebody pays attention.

This is such a meme-able photo I can't wait to see turns up in the next few hours.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (zB/T/)

Probably left there by Cornbread

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (ynpvh)

188 Supposedly they found evidence in Trump's toilet...no kidding.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:12 PM (ynpvh)

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Donny Two Dumps!

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (+lwg5)

189 Former chair of the RNC: @MichaelSteele

Trump failed to return classified docs requested by the National Archives. A federal judge issued a search warrant for probable cause of a crime. This is not some rando move by the FBI so you shitforbrains Republicans calling for “defunding the FBI”for once try to be less stupid

Posted by: Whatamaroon at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (wwshG)

190 Show me the Republican and I'll show you the crime.

Posted by: Lavrenti Garland at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (lFE5c)

191 Maybe the Florida AG should open some investigations of her own on the local agents.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (mZ3xv)

192 @117

>>I bet TRump wishes he had fulfilled his campaign promise to "lock her up!" regarding Hillary.

Donald Trump is a scrupulously honest, honorable and law abiding man hence the demonic and illegitimate fashion the Junta/Deep State are going after him and his associates.

In fact he is easily the most scrupulously honest and law abiding President since Ike.

How do I know this, no President has faced the unprecedented panopticon of the arrayed forces of internal and external LE/IC apparatuses and come out as squeaky clean to the point that they are now fabricating literal garbage to take him out.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (t9WRg)

193 damn, holy fuck, even ANDREW CUOMO came out and said this is "whack as fuck, yo"

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (OuH7W)

194 Wray needs waterboarding.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (eGTCV)

195 Garland would not have authorized this raid, and no federal judge would have signed off on it, if there weren't significant evidence to warrant it.

Ok, then what was it?

We can't comment on an ongoing investigation

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (R8uWY)

196 Jury nullification ... but with a DC jury, they will convict on no evidence at all. (and the rumors that the jury pool itself is rigged sounds likely true)

Hard to guess what they seized, but possibly enough to fabricate some extra details using their various assets and liars, as with 6 years of Trump/Russia-gate. (like when they claimed one Trump guy had gone to Geneva or somewhere, but they must have gotten the wrong guy ... but they framed him as being there to pursue some crime ... he was never there)

Posted by: illiniwek at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (Cus5s)

197 So the judge who signed off on the raid was Jeffrey Epstein's defense attorney.

🤬😡🤬

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (ptqGC)

198 169 When do they just assassinate Trump? I’m not joking.

Because almost 60 years after JFK's assassination, we're now up to 80% of the American public who doesn't believe the Warren Commission fairytale, and those investigations never go away. It's too much work for them to have to cover up and suppress and intimidate and play-act all the time.

Plus it's so much more fun for them to watch Trump and family squirm, and us too. They hate us and are like little boys who pull the wings off flies.

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (dCxaZ)

199
Also, these are same FBI/DOJ cocksuckers who let off Mass-Sexual-Abuser Larry Nasser with no punishment.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (U8i3e)

200 Right about now I am patting myself on the back for lifetime of consistency.
I've hated the Feebs with a passion since I was about 19 years old, tv show notwithstanding.
Hint: I am far away from 19 now.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (jTmQV)

201 How is Durham doin'?

Sorry, can't indict. Too close to an election.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 12:26 PM (R8uWY)

202
Also, these are the same DOJ cocksuckers who couldn't find a single Epstein client to charge!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at August 09, 2022 12:26 PM (U8i3e)

203 The Federal Government is Amber Heard. We the People are the bed.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 09, 2022 12:26 PM (yBTz5)

204 breaking news

Trump to be indicted for having a pair of balls in his safe

autographed by Pete Rose

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:26 PM (us2H3)

205
J. Edgar Groomers, the lot of them

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at August 09, 2022 12:26 PM (U8i3e)

206 ormer chair of the RNC: @MichaelSteele

lol@ this corny AF loser.

DIAF bitch

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (dCxaZ)

207 Much of the FBI should be in prison. Nobody but fellow thugs would ever consider joining such an obviously corrupt organization.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (QSjkU)

208 Same FIB who let Nassar get away with sexually abusing kids for ever.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (mZ3xv)

209 Because almost 60 years after JFK's assassination, we're now up to 80% of the American public who doesn't believe the Warren Commission fairytale, and those investigations never go away. It's too much work for them to have to cover up and suppress and intimidate and play-act all the time

Cover up what? They would do it openly and just refuse to indict.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (R8uWY)

210 201 How is Durham doin'?

Judith died

Durham's dead

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (us2H3)

211 >>This so called democratic epstein "Judge" is not a senate confirmed Federal Judge, but a locally appointed buyllshit federal political "Judge"

Even better, the federal judge who did appoint Rheinhart was appointed by George H W Bush and he is the same judge who sent Elian Gonzalez back to Cuba.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (ZLI7S)

212 People keep calling for impeaching these guys, and wimpy shit like that. How about red hot pokers up the butt?

Posted by: Eeyore at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (TgBWG)

213 Sadly, if the Republicans ever manage to get back into power, there will only be a few mumbled words of half threat. Instead of seizing every document pertaining to the Clintons, the Obamas, and the Bidens, there will be zip. There will be no trials, no questions asked, no nothing. "We're Republicans. We don't DO things like THAT! (Do you like us now, NYT?)".

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I wasn't particularly fond of the '70s the first time around at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (9SjWf)

214 My "fantasy" is that Republicans take the House and Senate and then immediately after the first session is called, a typedelete of typedeletes, typedeletes every typedelete until the typedeletes typedelete in a typedelete of typedeletes.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (/6Rxy)

215 Turning to Government contracting...the Army's timing couldn't have been worse.

On August 8, the U.S. Army posted a sources sought notice for criminal and threat intelligence coverage for the Joint Task Force – National Capital Region / Military District of Washington (JTF-NCR / MDW).
The contractor shall provide real-time 24/7/365 criminal, threat, and intelligence reporting for Joint Task Force-National Capital Region and the Military District of Washington. Daily Global Security Operations Center (GSOC) real time alerts, protest alerts, protest reporting, weekly JTF-NCR (MDW) intelligence reports, Extremist Intelligence Threat (EXIT) reports, global, national, and regional threat assessments, and when requested, Detailed Analysis in Real-Time (DART) report for requested events that The Joint Task Force-National Capital Region / Military District of Washington will participate in within the United States.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (anj39)

216 The GOPe gets richer and fatter by not fighting back. They're in this for the money and power and nothing else.

I'm tired of this argument. In the same breath it is argued that: 1) the GOPe wants only power, and 2) they won't fight back because they're only interested in money and power.

If the GOPe wants power, they'll do it by fighting to get themselves elected in a majority. If they want money, the best way to get it is to have power.

The GOPe is largely venal, but all of them would prefer a GOPe majority.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (/NCI4)

217 "Maybe it's time for governors and all right-thinking local governments to end all cooperation with the FBI."

Maybe? All field agents and their families have needed to be under 24-hour state police surveillance for decades. It is both for their protection and the protection of states where these fiends live.

Also, NeverTrump is Nevermore, sad to see you waste so much time with it. The most dangerous enemies are people like Graham and so forth who pretend to be on our side and ally with the police state elements.

Frankly, given these types dominate the Republican caucus in the Senate, if anyone chooses to vote it should be solely on the House side, which isn't much better but still.

The United States is now a totalitarian shithole and the rest of the world sees it. Let's hope it can be dismantled peacefully.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (nMx88)

218 Former chair of the RNC: @MichaelSteele

Trump failed to return classified docs requested by the National Archives. A federal judge issued a search warrant for probable cause of a crime. This is not some rando move by the FBI so you shitforbrains Republicans calling for “defunding the FBI”for once try to be less stupid.

That man is destined to be a forum moderator. He gets it.

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (/cCOr)

219 >>Whoa. Hey. Are you back-back? Missed you.

Finally fixed so I can comment again - woohoo!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (I/doM)

220 194 Wray needs waterboarding.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (eGTCV)

I'm okay for holding him underwater for 15 minutes...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (ynpvh)

221 second look at a Carly run ??

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (us2H3)

222 With all of the hundreds of problems in the country and the world, these people are still focused on Trump. They are insane. Totally fucking insane.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (WHt4f)

223 When do they just assassinate Trump? I’m not joking. They’ve done it before. They even murdered pregnant women and children at Waco and Ruby Ridge and nobody did nothing about it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (reQRc)

1. When he is in 'protective custody.'

2. When he announces he is running for POTUS.

His life expectancy will be counted in hours, if not days. There will be a lot of overwrought commentary and pearl-clutching, but the camel will lift its back and carry the new straw.

Trump will die and nothing will happen. I don't know about the rest of you, but I personally have given up.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (AW0uW)

224 Ghost all of your Lefty friends.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (sWbrH)

225 Mitch has had himself a pretty good week

passed the BBB bill while voting against it

got Trump's home raided without his fingerprints on it

and completely turn his new boy Scott into sniveling lackey

even that Machi guy would be impressed

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:24 PM (us2H3)
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Best of all, the checks from Chairman Xi into his offshore shell company accounts keep clearing! "America ... what a country."

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (+lwg5)

226 "the Empire of Lies" The Federation of Fibs. The Dominion of Deceit. Commonwealth of Canards.

Posted by: Filesystem /gp Corrupted at August 09, 2022 12:29 PM (qpX6U)

227
I saw where David Frenchs wife now has a one star review. Says her who-who now has more miles on it than a kardashian and is all wore out

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at August 09, 2022 12:29 PM (7E+Zt)

228 SturmToddler (po3vF) at August 09, 2022 12:08 PM (WhsXQ)

what the hell, when did my hash change?
Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsX) at August 09, 2022 12:15 PM (WhsXQ)

Did you power cycle anything recently? Router update maybe?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 12:19 PM (XvPQV)

well, it's the work internet, so i guess someone in austria cycled power or refreshed something...

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 09, 2022 12:29 PM (WhsXQ)

229 189:keep sucking that government dick.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 09, 2022 12:29 PM (W/9Bb)

230 David Axelrod@davidaxelrod
One thing is very clear.
Garland would not have authorized this raid, and no federal judge would have signed off on it, if there weren't significant evidence to warrant it

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🤣🤣🤣

I miss Rush's compilations of the media and pundit chorus saying the same things across the media spectrum . So predictable, started immediately, yesterday.

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2022 12:29 PM (AVI/t)

231 We need to play the game by their rules and that is all. The next conservative president needs to make this come back times 1000 on the destructocrats and the media and corporate heads.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 09, 2022 12:22 PM (u4CEu)

Voting at the Federal level is not going to solve this.

Posted by: WiNO at August 09, 2022 12:29 PM (EpDzw)

232 They will say that this is different, of course. It's an easy game to play.

"I think the FBI's actions against Trump are clear weaponization." "No, it isn't, because we have checks and balances."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (WWh8n)

Checks and balances, same as two party system and elections are a facade meant to support the illusion of representative government. I wish I was wrong, here. There are fleeting chances that I can be convinced otherwise.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 12:29 PM (U3uv2)

233 I have never shopped in any of their brick-and-mortar stores, but last night I tried looking online for a Banana Republic t-shirt. No luck. Will keep looking. It ought to be the right's unofficial uniform from here on out.

Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 12:29 PM (VJsqe)

234 All the liberals acting like this shit happened in a vacuum.

We have decades of proof of abuse and politicizing of the DOJ and the FIB.

But this one was all above board, right Michael?

Just like the FISA warrants.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (mZ3xv)

235 Digenes: is this posted in SAM?

Posted by: Iris at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (NaH5I)

236 Lots to catch up on

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (K2p6I)

237 >>> 218 Former chair of the RNC: @MichaelSteele

Trump failed to return classified docs requested by the National Archives. A federal judge issued a search warrant for probable cause of a crime. This is not some rando move by the FBI so you shitforbrains Republicans calling for “defunding the FBI”for once try to be less stupid.

That man is destined to be a forum moderator. He gets it.
Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (/cCOr)

What forum, Democratic Underground?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (llON8)

238 Trump will die and nothing will happen. I don't know about the rest of you, but I personally have given up.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfec

I expected nothing less. I'll take up your slack .

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (sWbrH)

239 MichaelSteele
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Ah yes another former up and coming GOP who might be president one day. Was particularly good at pwning the libs for a couple months, IIRC.

Fuck have we been through it. I just wish we had less amnesia.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (/6Rxy)

240 37 Well Ken is a fucking idiot and a liar so that might explain why he is always wrong.

A federal judge did NOT sign off on this warrant. It was a US magistrate judge. Not nominated by a POTUS and not confirmed by the Senate.

He's a political hack.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (ZLI7S)

I'm an idiot.
Can you tell me the difference?

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (53oGX)

241 The FBI has accomplished the remarkable feat of causing the only people in the country who believe in law and order and law enforcement to turn on them.

Posted by: Caliban at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (HgGBT)

242 Any idea if this is true?

Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
We now know the judge who signed off on the Mar-a-Lago raid was Jeffrey Epstein’s lawyer. Don’t question it!

Posted by: 29Victor at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (BJKQV)

243 Future President Trump or DeSantis need to pull this same shit. We have corroborated evidence that Kamala Harris traded sex for her job, time to throw that hooker in prison.

I wasn't them to lock Hunter up and let the world know it was Joe's fault, let the addled brain imbecile live out his last days knowing it's his fault his son is rotting in prison.

They're is no amount of pain that is too good for these scumbags.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (ApeEc)

244 Cover up what? They would do it openly and just refuse to indict.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (R8uWY)

No, no, their entire shtick is plausible deniability and all this passive aggressive smoke and mirrors bullshit.

It gets their puny dicks hard to know they're cheating and fooling a lot of the proles.

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (dCxaZ)

245 218 Former chair of the RNC: @MichaelSteele

Trump failed to return classified docs requested by the National Archives. A federal judge issued a search warrant for probable cause of a crime. This is not some rando move by the FBI so you shitforbrains Republicans calling for “defunding the FBI”for once try to be less stupid.

That man is destined to be a forum moderator. He gets it.

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (/cCOr)

Steele can suck his own dick...if he can find it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

246 Serious question, what exactly could the republicans do to wray after he lied to them and went on vacation?
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 09, 2022 12:20 PM (bVYXr)

Was this a senate hearing? Does the senate not have a marshal-at-arms? Could Cruz (ha! I kill myself!) order them to arrest Wray?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (AW0uW)

247 Former chair of the RNC: @MichaelSteele

Trump failed to return classified docs requested by the National Archives. A federal judge issued a search warrant for probable cause of a crime. This is not some rando move by the FBI so you shitforbrains Republicans calling for “defunding the FBI”for once try to be less stupid

Posted by: Whatamaroon at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (wwshG)

Such things are usually handled in court, not with FBI raids. But you do your grift, Steele.

Posted by: WiNO at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (EpDzw)

248 David French's wife has more gums than the Wrigley family

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (S+j2h)

249 If the GOPe wants power, they'll do it by fighting to get themselves elected in a majority. If they want money, the best way to get it is to have power.

The GOPe is largely venal, but all of them would prefer a GOPe majority.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (/NCI4)

The GOPe being in power doesn't mean they'll do anything. Because that's Not Who We Are.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (DRSnL)

250 242 Any idea if this is true?

Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
We now know the judge who signed off on the Mar-a-Lago raid was Jeffrey Epstein’s lawyer. Don’t question it!
Posted by: 29Victor at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (BJKQV

It's true.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (mZ3xv)

251 221 second look at a Carly run ??

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (us2H3)

I found her very irritating on her Disney show.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

252 185 Ric Grenell earlier today, the gloryhole needs to be cleaned up, not eliminated. LOLGF

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 12:24 PM (m7R0k)

fify

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (us2H3)

253 This slender brunette in her underwear will vote for anyone who has a "fuck with the feds and interfere with them through every available bit of officialdom and non-cooperation" platform:
https://is.gd/8rMd3B

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (WWh8n)

254 >>A federal judge issued a search warrant for probable cause of a crime

A federal judge didn't do shit. The warrant was signed by a magistrate.

Learn the difference you fucking halfwit.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (ZLI7S)

255 The GOPe gets richer and fatter by not fighting back. They're in this for the money and power and nothing else.

I'm tired of this argument. In the same breath it is argued that: 1) the GOPe wants only power, and 2) they won't fight back because they're only interested in money and power.

Then allow me to let you rest easier. Its hard work to be the majority political party. But if you cooperate, you can be the minority political party - still the second most powerful political entity in the country - with much, much less effort.

All you have to do is feed pablum to the rubes. You don't even have to win, in the macro sense. You'll still be the second most powerful party in a two party system where politics controls everything.

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (/cCOr)

256 Former chair of the RNC: @MichaelSteele

If shit was energy this guy would be a powerhouse

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (S+j2h)

257 He wrote that in the present tense.

He "is" a leader...he's still there? What church is this?

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:23 PM (dCxaZ)

I tried briefly yesterday to track down some details, but I came up against the search engine wall and was unable to come up with anything specific. So I am riding on Sperry's reputation for accurate reportage at the moment.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 12:31 PM (U3uv2)

258 He will, one day...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

God helps those who help themselves.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 12:32 PM (cTCuP)

259 Posted by: Diogenes at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (anj39)

I wonder which Pelosi or Biden will get the job. And, frankly, this will not work in an age of biological and chemical warfare. If D.C. had any sense it would de-escalate before the bodies there get piled up like cordwood. But, "if." This is very, very dangerous, and do these people think we would give a tinker's damn if Putin or Xi or Billy Bob reduced D.C. to fiery rubble? Hell, two-thirds of the country would applaud it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 09, 2022 12:32 PM (nMx88)

260 #157 Thanks, Comrade Flounder.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 09, 2022 12:32 PM (yikp0)

261
Ah yes another former up and coming GOP who might be president one day. Was particularly good at pwning the libs for a couple months, IIRC.

You know when I realized Steele was a loser? When I got mailings from the RNC that were disguised as IRS notices.

This is when I stopped donating to the RNC.

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:32 PM (dCxaZ)

262 242

He was the lawyer for Epstein's employees is what I read on Fox.

Posted by: Ziba at August 09, 2022 12:32 PM (4h9M3)

263 Just like Communist China and Ukraine for that matter... Shut down your political opponents

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:32 PM (bs+z0)

264 Here ya go. Bruce E. Reinhart, former Epstein defense attorney, signed off on the raid:

https://tinyurl.com/2fpsexkw

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 12:32 PM (ptqGC)

265 "Ric Grenell earlier today, the DOJ/FBI/State needs to be cleaned up, not eliminated. LOLGF"

he also noted that some documents got "classified" and Grenell confronted the guy, saying they should not be classified. He says the guy agreed, but he didn't do it, his boss did (and put his name on it)

So yeah, it might be an elite group of higher ups, yet that guy allowed his name to be used, did not blow a whistle, wants his pension more than upholding the oath.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 09, 2022 12:32 PM (Cus5s)

266 Margot Cleveland article-
Search Warrant Or Not, Americans Have No Reason To Believe The FBI Raid On Trump's Florida Home Was Justified

Americans do not need to defer to the court that already issued multiple falsified warrants against the former president.

https://tinyurl.com/4v7ssm26

Posted by: redridinghood at August 09, 2022 12:33 PM (NpAcC)

267 Fat, bloated, donut eating, nevertrump Obama dick taster Chris Christie defends the raid on Trump's home calling it, "fair game".

Posted by: Marcus T at August 09, 2022 12:33 PM (2hOms)

268 His life expectancy will be counted in hours, if not days. There will be a lot of overwrought commentary and pearl-clutching, but the camel will lift its back and carry the new straw.

Trump will die and nothing will happen. I don't know about the rest of you, but I personally have given up.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (AW0uW)

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Out: Brokeback Mountain.
In: Brokeback Camel.

I'm nearly as pessimistic, but the chance to maybe eventually get to justifiably kill some commies will continue to give me something to look forward to each morning ... hey, a man can dream.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 12:33 PM (+lwg5)

269 I have way too many opportunities to post this quote:
"Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against -- then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted -- and you create a nation of law-breakers -- and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

Posted by: blaster at August 09, 2022 12:33 PM (6TxNR)

270 Really, you morons who believe we will get to vote in someone even close to Trump again are delusional. When they destroy those candidates, you will rant impotently about how they have gone too far this time.

Posted by: WiNO at August 09, 2022 12:33 PM (EpDzw)

271 232 They will say that this is different, of course. It's an easy game to play.

"I think the FBI's actions against Trump are clear weaponization." "No, it isn't, because we have checks and balances."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 12:09 PM (WWh8n)

Checks and balances, same as two party system and elections are a facade meant to support the illusion of representative government. I wish I was wrong, here. There are fleeting chances that I can be convinced otherwise.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 12:29 PM (U3uv2)

Checks from China, Balances for weighing the coke...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:33 PM (ynpvh)

272 This slender brunette in her underwear will vote for anyone who has a "fuck with the feds and interfere with them through every available bit of officialdom and non-cooperation" platform

Yowza.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 12:33 PM (/NCI4)

273 If there wasn't sufficient evidence, then obviously no judge would sign off on it. Also I am grateful I had my vaccine because my symptoms and chances of dying will be lessened greatly. She/Shim

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:33 PM (/6Rxy)

274 Michael Steele blows donkeys.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 09, 2022 12:33 PM (W/9Bb)

275
"Thank you for your service as a juror. Your nullification vote in the verdict has been duly noted, and agents from the FBI and IRS will follow up with you soon to make sure you were aware of what you were doing."

Posted by: Auspex at August 09, 2022 12:33 PM (j4U/Z)

276 Still no declaration of war from the MAGA crowd in Congress. They're going to get rick-rolled right out of a job unless they take this shit seriously.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 09, 2022 12:34 PM (BFigT)

277 Maybe the Florida AG should open some investigations of her own on the local agents.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (mZ3xv)

Very interesting point!!!!

They have a new one that is not tied to soros.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 09, 2022 12:34 PM (s3wLb)

278 He will, one day...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

that's so lame

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2022 12:34 PM (dCxaZ)

279 Fat, bloated, donut eating, nevertrump Obama dick taster Chris Christie defends the raid on Trump's home calling it, "fair game".

Posted by: Marcus T at August 09, 2022 12:33 PM (2hOms)

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A woman scorned ... which also explains the likes of Garland, Romney, et. al.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 12:34 PM (+lwg5)

280 The GOPe is largely venal, but all of them would prefer a GOPe majority.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (/NCI4)
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Well, some of them anyway. Not the Senate caucus. Not much of the House leadership.

Posted by: Lavrenti Garland at August 09, 2022 12:34 PM (lFE5c)

281 Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (/cCOr)

Wow. A perfect illustration of why the GOP kept losing every fight with Democrats. They wanted to.

Posted by: 29Victor at August 09, 2022 12:34 PM (BJKQV)

282 If I'm ever a juror on any federal crime trial, I will vote automatic acquittal...regardless of the evidence presented. My trust in our federal agencies, most especially those involving crimes, is set at negative zero.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 09, 2022 12:35 PM (sVtYq)

283 Larry O'Connor
@LarryOConnor
Attorney General Merrick Garland approved an FBI raid on the former president who personally revoked his nomination for the Supreme Court when he won the presidency.

Read that sentence a couple of times.

Posted by: SMOD at August 09, 2022 12:35 PM (RHGPo)

284 Abolish the FBI from the head to the last joined agent who just graduated from the Harvard Marxist Seminary

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 09, 2022 12:35 PM (K2p6I)

285 Much of the FBI should be in prison. Nobody but fellow thugs would ever consider joining such an obviously corrupt organization. Posted by: Xipe Totec

Nah, toss all of them prison and then let them attempt to use the Habeas corpus process to get out. That will keep them on ice for years.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 09, 2022 12:35 PM (FF+On)

286 Emphasizing this part:

You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against -- then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it.

We go around wondering how many Durham's can dance on the head of a pin, they just fucking do it.

Posted by: blaster at August 09, 2022 12:35 PM (6TxNR)

287 >>Trump failed to return classified docs requested by the National Archives. A federal judge issued a search warrant for probable cause of a crime. This is not some rando move by the FBI so you shitforbrains Republicans calling for “defunding the FBI”for once try to be less stupid.

Now do Obama, you fucking retard.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2022 12:35 PM (rDJo+)

288 277 Maybe the Florida AG should open some investigations of her own on the local agents.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (mZ3xv)

I saw her on Laura and she said she got no notification of this...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:35 PM (bs+z0)

289 Its not particularly telling since lawyers take jobs for scumbags all the time without being friends or even liking them, but the judge who signed off on this warrant formerly was an attorney for Jeffrey Epstein.

https://tinyurl.com/577zauhs

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:36 PM (Ivdso)

290 The left has convinced the GOPe that if they help getting rid of Trump

everything will return to business as usual

hook, line and sinker

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:36 PM (us2H3)

291 They're going to get rick-rolled right out of a job unless they take this shit seriously.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 09, 2022 12:34 PM (BFigT)

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As they should.

Voting for simp R's is slow painful death. I'd rather a quick, hopefully less-painful, Dem death.

I will not vote R again unless they are fighters like Trump was.

Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 12:36 PM (VJsqe)

292 267 Fat, bloated, donut eating, nevertrump Obama dick taster Chris Christie defends the raid on Trump's home calling it, "fair game".

Posted by: Marcus T at August 09, 2022 12:33 PM (2hOms)

I thought he was talking about his ass.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:36 PM (ynpvh)

293 I'm wondering if a $50 donation to the Hillary For President campaign isn't the best disguise to my ultimate designation...

Terrorist.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 09, 2022 12:36 PM (JOtiF)

294 288 277 Maybe the Florida AG should open some investigations of her own on the local agents.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM (mZ3xv)

I saw her on Laura and she said she got no notification of this...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:35 PM

Same. Wasn't surprised.

That's how you know this was all above board.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:36 PM (mZ3xv)

295 Trump failed to return de-classified docs requested by the National Archives.

Fixed it for you

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:36 PM (Ivdso)

296 A federal magistrate judge works for the district court judges handling lots of grunt work such as suppression hearings, discovery disputes, consensual bench trials, federal parking tickets at the local VA, and issuing subpoenas….but issuing a subpoena to search the residence of a former president would not be something left to a magistrate. This magistrate was hand picked as a pretext to show legal process.

Posted by: 7man at August 09, 2022 12:37 PM (qwO6y)

297 Dollar store burner phones and any Federal snitch line. Most entertainment dollar for dollar you can get.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 09, 2022 12:37 PM (lz5hY)

298 Michael Steele and John Bolton were cut from the same bolt of cloth.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 12:37 PM (cTCuP)

299 Former chair of the RNC: @MichaelSteele

I don't understand how the RNC let this Gem of a man get away. I mean that tweet!! That's HuffPost/Salon quality right there!

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 09, 2022 12:38 PM (sAmhv)

300 the Senate Republicans rolled over when Criminal Wray decided he was going to play hooky on their committee and take a jet they had given him to go on a weekend vacation.
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At that moment Wray knew that he could do whatever he wanted with no resistance from prone Senate Republicans.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 12:38 PM (WzJXd)

301 Order like this raid had to come from the top, Herr Garland or Sundowner's Puppeteers

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 09, 2022 12:38 PM (K2p6I)

302 The only (former?) FBI agent I support is Chase Bishop. At least he showed us how helpful the Bureau can be. Just keep on dancing!

Posted by: Baldy at August 09, 2022 12:38 PM (ujuqV)

303 Well one thing that will come out of this is Trump's support will solidify and the nomination is his if he wants it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 09, 2022 12:39 PM (bVYXr)

304 At that moment Wray knew that he could do whatever he wanted with no resistance from prone Senate Republicans.

He knew that years ago, but part of the job is making a token appearance before congress.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:39 PM (Ivdso)

305 Maybe the Florida Sheriffs should do a no-knock raid on the FiB HQ. Heard they may be dealing in drugs and illicit materials.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:39 PM (mZ3xv)

306 Here's the judge who ordered the raid:

https://tinyurl.com/426bukvr

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 12:39 PM (ptqGC)

307 Posted by: Diogenes at August 09, 2022 12:27 PM (anj39)

Deploying Army resources within the U.S. against American citizens? Say it ain't so.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 12:39 PM (U3uv2)

308 >>Trump failed to return classified docs requested by the National Archives. A federal judge issued a search warrant for probable cause of a crime. This is not some rando move by the FBI so you shitforbrains Republicans calling for “defunding the FBI”for once try to be less stupid.

Giggity...

Posted by: Zombie Sandy Berger at August 09, 2022 12:39 PM (sAmhv)

309 the dialed up pissiness of Merrick Garland has convinced me that Scalia was murdered

and Garland knows this and had been posing as a moderate all these years, just for that moment

and then it was jerked away

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:39 PM (us2H3)

310 304 Well one thing that will come out of this is Trump's support will solidify and the nomination is his if he wants it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 09, 2022 12:39 PM (bVYXr)

Which is why they have to "find" something to disqualify him from being able to run

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:39 PM (bs+z0)

311 Shain you are such a cut up with your crazy talk. I love your caricatures of "those" people. Spot on!!!!

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:40 PM (/6Rxy)

312 >>> I don't know about the rest of you, but I personally have given up.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (AW0uW)

Yes, we know. Please look up the Stockdale Paradox. You're hardly the only one who keeps saying "if THIS doesn't start things off..." as if that's how it works. *If* anything happens, it will be when we are well in to hyperinflation, near or real famine, and worse, because that's *always* what it takes to push people - including the LIV types who don't pay attention to things the way we do - over the edge.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 09, 2022 12:40 PM (llON8)

313 >>If there wasn't sufficient evidence, then obviously no judge would sign off on it.

In a warrant for search and seizure, the affidavit must spell out specifically what is to be taken and why. The federal magistrate can be sanctioned if 4th Amendment violation has occurred, and the judge had a reasonable idea it would.

Posted by: Boswell at August 09, 2022 12:40 PM (+Cgut)

314 Fat, bloated, donut eating, nevertrump Obama dick taster Chris Christie defends the raid on Trump's home calling it, "fair game".

Rush gets cancer, yet this oleaginous, sweat-stained, crusty-briefed slob remains above ground.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 09, 2022 12:40 PM (AW0uW)

315 Wow. A perfect illustration of why the GOP kept losing every fight with Democrats. They wanted to.
Posted by: 29Victor at August 09, 2022 12:34 PM (BJKQV)

Suspension of Disbelief is a great thing, in the right situation. Great for a movie or a play or good book.

Terrible idea when watching politics, when one side constantly loses - even when they control the House, Senate, and Presidency.

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:40 PM (/cCOr)

316 Under you cannot make this shit up

Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart approved the Trump Mar a Lago warrant request for the Feebs in the S. District of Florida. Before his appointment as magistrate judge, Reinhart worked for ------wait for it--------several of Epstein's workers in conjunction with the federal 2008 case against Epstein. Before that, Reinhart was a federal prosecutor.

Posted by: whig at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (CXr4y)

317 House Judiciary GOP
@JudiciaryGOP
1h
The IRS is coming for you.
The DOJ is coming for you.
The FBI is coming for you.

No one is safe from political punishment in Joe Biden's America.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (NpAcC)

318 Which is why they have to "find" something to disqualify him from being able to run

One of the penalties of mishandling classified documents is being barred from holding public office for 3 years.

Just saying.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (Ivdso)

319 Who touched Steele in his no-no place?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (R8uWY)

320 309 the dialed up pissiness of Merrick Garland has convinced me that Scalia was murdered

and Garland knows this and had been posing as a moderate all these years, just for that moment

and then it was jerked away

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:39 PM (us2H3)

He is a jerk...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

321 His life expectancy will be counted in hours, if not days.
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I'll say it again: Somewhere in 2020, Trump lost his nerve. He stopped fighting. I don't know if it was Covid or what. We went from "open by Easter" to "whatever you say, Fauci."

I maintain a threat was conveyed to him and his family. He bought some peace but stupidity expected them to keep the deal.

This feels like him going golfing while the Dems are stealing the election....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (hqgRM)

322 Well one thing that will come out of this is Trump's support will solidify and the nomination is his if he wants it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 09, 2022 12:39 PM (bVYXr)

Which is why they have to "find" something to disqualify him from being able to run

If they are successful, and I very much doubt they will be, DeSantis will have a perfect platform from which to start the purges, all provided by the Dems themselves. They're idiots and imbeciles.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (/NCI4)

323 Under you cannot make this shit up

Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart approved the Trump Mar a Lago warrant request for the Feebs in the S. District of Florida. Before his appointment as magistrate judge, Reinhart worked for ------wait for it--------several of Epstein's workers in conjunction with the federal 2008 case against Epstein. Before that, Reinhart was a federal prosecutor.

Posted by: whig at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (CXr4y)

Yes. This has been everywhere this morning.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (ptqGC)

324 Garrett how about Hildabeast turning the Staye Department into her personal computer server

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (K2p6I)

325 Maybe the Florida Sheriffs should do a no-knock raid on the FiB HQ. Heard they may be dealing in drugs and illicit materials.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:39 PM (mZ3xv)

I hear there is lots of illicit material containing minors.

Posted by: WiNO at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (EpDzw)

326 Yeah, it's a tad strange they just took boxes of stuff without opening them or figuring out which docs fulfilled the supposed warrant.

Should be a field day for any lawyer worth it's salt
And if they fucked up the warrant, none of it is admissible.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (mZ3xv)

327 This magistrate was hand picked as a pretext to show legal process.
Posted by: 7man at August 09, 2022 12:37 PM (qwO6y)

This magistrate was picked as an eff you to us. "See, rubes? We own it all. We don't even need the big guns."

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (cTCuP)

328 Has Sen. Miss Lindsey weighed in yet or is she busy with practicing making angry faces with the pool boy.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (FF+On)

329 MichaelSteele
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Ah yes another former up and coming GOP who might be president one day. Was particularly good at pwning the libs for a couple months, IIRC.

Fuck have we been through it. I just wish we had less amnesia.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (/6Rxy)
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In my adult political lifetime (about 40 years), I can't recall a single instance (there have likely been at least a couple back in the day before the D's went full Borg) of a prominent Dem stabbing his party, let alone President, in the back so publicly -- including tell-all books.

On the other hand, it seems like literally a thousand examples of we battered conservatives being betrayed over-and-over. Like you say, the only good thing about my memory starting to fade is the respite of amnesia.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (+lwg5)

330 *If* anything happens, it will be when we are well in to hyperinflation, near or real famine, and worse, because that's *always* what it takes to push people - including the LIV types who don't pay attention to things the way we do - over the edge.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 09, 2022 12:40 PM (llON

And there's the rub - that word "if."

Almost as horrible as the words "I wish."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (AW0uW)

331 the GOPe are the same dicks that bought into the Russia hoax

no one should be surprised that they believe this

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (us2H3)

332 317 House Judiciary GOP @JudiciaryGOP 1h
The IRS is coming for you.
The DOJ is coming for you.
The FBI is coming for you.
No one is safe from political punishment in Joe Biden's America.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (NpAcC)

Don't forget:
OSHA
EPA
ATF
and a whole host of other three and four letter agencies

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (ynpvh)

333 295 Trump failed to return de-classified docs requested by the National Archives.

Fixed it for you
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at
------------------

When Obama left office he took ALL of his papers and put them in a warehouse in Chicago.

The National Archives demanded he return them.

Crickets

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (WzJXd)

334 Polly Sigh @dcpoll
BREAKING: Did Jeffrey Epstein offer prosecutors anything in return for his sweetheart deal? Bruce Reinhart went from prosecuting Epstein to representing Epstein's accomplices who then also received immunity for trafficking underage girls. [andy: Miami Herald link here]

https://twitter.com/dcpoll/status/
1150174192454852608

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (yikp0)

335 >David Axelrod@davidaxelrod
One thing is very clear.
Garland would not have authorized this raid,...

This man is totally unmoored from reality- the American justice system has been corrupted

Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (geLO8)

336 Wray needs waterboarding.

It's not waterboarding if you use battery acid.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (m7R0k)

337 I saw where David Frenchs wife now has a one star review. Says her who-who now has more miles on it than a kardashian and is all wore out
Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at August 09, 2022 12:29 PM

That's not my fault.

Posted by: David French at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (a3Q+t)

338 Should be a field day for any lawyer worth it's salt
And if they fucked up the warrant, none of it is admissible.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (mZ3xv)

I'll allow it!

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (6TxNR)

339 Eat another donut, Fatty McCain.

@MeghanMcCain

This better be legit - or you're making him a martyr and just handing him 2024 on a silver platter.

------------

From your fat fingers to God's ears.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (ptqGC)

340 I don't know about the rest of you, but I personally have given up.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (AW0uW)

You, seriously, would be so much happier if you just moved out of the DC / Boston corridor. I wouldn't say south of the Mason / Dixon for you. But rural Wisconsin or something like that ? Be a complete life changer for you.

I'd help you pack for free. Even bring a trailer.

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (/cCOr)

341 The fake flushed papers is just another peed on the koran through a window bullshit.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (+ksY7)

342 Has Sen. Miss Lindsey weighed in yet or is she busy with practicing making angry faces with the pool boy.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (FF+On)

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That's no pool boy, it's Sean Hannity in a speedo!

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (+lwg5)

343 The current head of the zfBI was appointed by that shit head..... Donald Trump
Ace gave him high marks when Wray was appointed

Posted by: Paul at August 09, 2022 12:44 PM (QRDvF)

344 >>I'll say it again: Somewhere in 2020, Trump lost his nerve. He stopped fighting.

LOL, wut?

Nobody, absolutely nobody, has been fighting harder than Trump for the last 6 years. You might not like him but pretending he hasn't sacrificed a ton to bring this fight when nobody else would is ridiculous.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 12:44 PM (ZLI7S)

345 The gaslighting is part of the kink.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at August 09, 2022 12:44 PM (6TxNR)

346 What is a "federal magistrate judge"? I don't understand the terminology.

Posted by: Caliban at August 09, 2022 12:44 PM (HgGBT)

347 It's not waterboarding if you use battery acid.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (m7R0k)

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How bout just a 2x4? Maybe with the accessory nail?

Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 12:44 PM (VJsqe)

348 Is that a silver lining? The fact that the judge they found was low and connected enough to be Epstein's lawyer? Like how many judges said nah bro?

Am I looking too deep? Maybe they're just laughing at us.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:44 PM (/6Rxy)

349 And yet, a court today says IRS must turn Trump's tax returns over to Congress...

It's now clear what I suspected after the Russiagate crap, the COURTs are part of the Deep State.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 09, 2022 12:44 PM (oHd/0)

350 Digenes: is this posted in SAM?
Posted by: Iris at August 09, 2022 12:30 PM (NaH5I)

Yes.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 09, 2022 12:44 PM (anj39)

351 Off pineappple sock

Posted by: blaster at August 09, 2022 12:44 PM (6TxNR)

352 Ripped up papers in the toilet? Russian hookers peeing on a bed?

It's almost like the Democrats have a pee fetish.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:45 PM (mZ3xv)

353 332 That wannabe dictator fag running Canuckistan will probably volunteer the RCMP. And Garland will accept, liking the cut of their jib after the truck driver troubles.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 09, 2022 12:45 PM (lz5hY)

354 I don't know about the rest of you, but I personally have given up.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (AW0uW)

don't let CBD get you down

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:45 PM (us2H3)

355 From your fat fingers to God's ears.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (ptqGC)

LOL

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:45 PM (/6Rxy)

356 I just love all the comments about the rule of law, black letter law, etc.
That fig leaf has completely fallen.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 09, 2022 12:45 PM (jTmQV)

357 I saw where David Frenchs wife now has a one star review. Says her who-who now has more miles on it than a kardashian and is all wore out
Posted by: Yo!

Shove a 10 lb ham up her twat and pull out the bone.

Chapter 3 from "How to Re-tread An Old Whore"

Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2022 12:45 PM (Am657)

358 347 It's not waterboarding if you use battery acid.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (m7R0k)

---------
How bout just a 2x4? Maybe with the accessory nail?

Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 12:44 PM (VJsqe)

There are methods much less enjoyable to the recipient due to their discomfort and duration.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 12:46 PM (ynpvh)

359 >>> 340
==
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (AW0uW)

You, seriously, would be so much happier if you just moved out of the DC / Boston corridor. I wouldn't say south of the Mason / Dixon for you. But rural Wisconsin or something like that ? Be a complete life changer for you.

I'd help you pack for free. Even bring a trailer.
Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (/cCOr)

I think you'd get lots of help.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 09, 2022 12:46 PM (llON8)

360 328 Has Sen. Miss Lindsey weighed in yet or is she busy with practicing making angry faces with the pool boy.
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (FF+On)

Graham was last seen heading to his primary care physician to have them look at a rash.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 09, 2022 12:46 PM (N39Ws)

361 Warrant? Where we're going, we don't need... warrants.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:46 PM (/6Rxy)

362 So they raided the house yesterday of the last POTUS and no one has come forward from the regime to explain why? And Rs just gonna tweet?

Posted by: jhawk90 at August 09, 2022 12:46 PM (9Np+H)

363 349 And yet, a court today says IRS must turn Trump's tax returns over to Congress...

Of course

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 12:46 PM (bs+z0)

364 The fake flushed papers is just another peed on the koran through a window bullshit

Remember the week-long scandal under Bush where some soldiers supposedly flushed a Koran down the toilet? I mean... you cannot fit even a little one down a toilet drain but supposedly these guys just folded it up somehow and shoved it down there.

Of courser that never happened it was yet another stringer special from some radical Muslim attempting to stir up rage against the coalition forces.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:46 PM (Ivdso)

365 Deploy the trolls!

We have some whoppers today!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 09, 2022 12:47 PM (WHt4f)

366 You, seriously, would be so much happier if you just moved out of the DC / Boston corridor. I wouldn't say south of the Mason / Dixon for you. But rural Wisconsin or something like that ? Be a complete life changer for you.

I'd help you pack for free. Even bring a trailer.
Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (/cCOr)

That's a hell of a deal.

Posted by: trev006 at August 09, 2022 12:47 PM (yJWaZ)

367 323 Under you cannot make this shit up

Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart approved the Trump Mar a Lago warrant request for the Feebs in the S. District of Florida. Before his appointment as magistrate judge, Reinhart worked for ------wait for it--------several of Epstein's workers in conjunction with the federal 2008 case against Epstein. Before that, Reinhart was a federal prosecutor.

Posted by: whig at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (CXr4y)

And he is NOT a Senate confirmed Federal Judge. He is a locally democratically appointed federal judge. BIG difference

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2022 12:47 PM (FHzKS)

368 Now remember, things look bad and it looks like you’re not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. ‘Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2022 12:47 PM (Am657)

369 >>Really, you morons who believe we will get to vote in someone even close to Trump again are delusional. When they destroy those candidates, you will rant impotently about how they have gone too far this time.

Yeah, I mentioned it in the last thread, but David Plouffe on CNN last night was saying "Trump was a key endorser in the primaries, and this raid will* make people think twice about voting for a Trump-endorsed candidate..."

* "will" used in place of "should" or "may" because: narrative being established. Everyone associated with Trump is just as bad/guilty/cancelled, you guys.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2022 12:47 PM (I/doM)

370 Read numerous professional opinions the Constitution has no clause to allow one branch to make rules on another branch as far as candidates.
That's why they tried to impeach DJT private citizen as it was their only shot if questionable

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 09, 2022 12:47 PM (K2p6I)

371 Shove a 10 lb ham up her twat and pull out the bone.

Chapter 3 from "How to Re-tread An Old Whore"
Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2022 12:45 PM (Am657)

hey !!

good tip

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:47 PM (us2H3)

372 The talking point has gone out that Trump appointed the judge who issued the warrant.

Never mind that magistrate judges are not Article III judges and thus are not Presidential appointments but are appointed by agreement of the judges for that district.

I am having fun playing whack an idiot on twitter with people about this.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 09, 2022 12:47 PM (5zO3p)

373 >>>If they are successful, and I very much doubt they will be, DeSantis will have a perfect platform from which to start the purges, all provided by the Dems themselves. They're idiots and imbeciles.
Posted by: Archimedes
-------------------------------

Possibly they want DeSantis up there.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (WzJXd)

374 352 Ripped up papers in the toilet? Russian hookers peeing on a bed?

It's almost like the Democrats have a pee fetish.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:45 PM (mZ3xv)

Someone publishes pictures of papers torn up and in a toilet bowl. Could have been anybody's toilet. Label it as Trump's and the whole world loses their mind.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (N39Ws)

375 I posted this downstairs but McConnell really, really hates Trump. The feeling is obviously mutual. Since the DoJ went after "Trump, the man" and not "Trump the Republican" it's totes cool. Had the DoJ, the junta or even the FBI or Garland put out a statement incriminating "Republicans" the commentary by the milquetoast GOP would be a little bit more spirited.

But most of the GOP hates Trump too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (BFigT)

376 DeSantis needs to start investigating federal agents in FL. UnpaId parking tickets? Improper permit on that deck you built? Everything.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (HS04+)

377 I'd help you pack for free. Even bring a trailer.
Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (/cCOr)

I think you'd get lots of help.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 09, 2022 12:46 PM (llON

I'm not kidding in the slightest. He needs to get away from the heavy handed, all up in your grill culture that is the Acela Corridor. He would be so, so much happier.

I'd be miserable too living there.

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (/cCOr)

378 358 347 The EE8 field telephone comes in handy for many uses.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (lz5hY)

379 DeSantis statement was weak. What is a MAL? And why trivialize the raid by comparing it to hiring IRS agents? I have a bad feeling about Desantos.

Posted by: Dumbo Shrimp` at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (SKkKl)

380 Where is the sign-up list to help MP4 pack?

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (cTCuP)

381 That's a hell of a deal.
Posted by: trev006 at August 09, 2022 12:47 PM (yJWaZ)

--------
It is.

I'm moving from deep blue VT to a very red western state by late fall. Anyone who wants to help is welcome!

Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (VJsqe)

382 After Trump announces for 2024, you can count his remaining days on the finger of one hand. If they let him get that far

Posted by: megthered at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (AdxHD)

383 334 Polly Sigh @dcpoll
BREAKING: Did Jeffrey Epstein offer prosecutors anything in return for his sweetheart deal? Bruce Reinhart went from prosecuting Epstein to representing Epstein's accomplices who then also received immunity for trafficking underage girls. [andy: Miami Herald link here]

https://twitter.com/dcpoll/status/
1150174192454852608
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (yikp0)

And that man, holding all the Epstein dirt, is then hired by the district judges. Magistrate judge can be a plum gig and unlike his bosses, the district judges, does not require consent of Congress. It stinks.

Posted by: 7man at August 09, 2022 12:49 PM (qwO6y)

384 Pompeo's tweet is the key here: this sets an extremely unpleasant precedent, using the office of president to attack political rivals and destroy the person who ran against you? That's Putin-style behavior.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:49 PM (Ivdso)

385 Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart approved the Trump Mar a Lago warrant request for the Feebs in the S. District of Florida. Before his appointment as magistrate judge, Reinhart worked for ------wait for it--------several of Epstein's workers in conjunction with the federal 2008 case against Epstein. Before that, Reinhart was a federal prosecutor.

Posted by: whig at August 09, 2022 12:41 PM (CXr4y)

Supreme Court has the authority to chastise and punish lower courts... if they do not do so???? Their authority, like the Queen of Englands.... is moot. Authority not used, soon ceases to exist.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 09, 2022 12:49 PM (oHd/0)

386 I'll say it again: Somewhere in 2020, Trump lost his nerve. He stopped fighting.

++++

I liked it when he played golf the day after saying the election was stolen.

That's when I threw in the towel on Trump.

I barely have time with a normal job to play golf. How about taking a few days off and spend it with your lawyers coming up with a legal strategy?

Posted by: Victory at August 09, 2022 12:49 PM (cDOKD)

387 DC might as well be a different country

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 09, 2022 12:49 PM (gbzeC)

388 >>So they raided the house yesterday of the last POTUS and no one has come forward from the regime to explain why? And Rs just gonna tweet?

Apparently.
Talk about a big FU to all of us Americans -- we don't even deserve a statement or explanation, just raw, unaccountable power being demonstrated.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2022 12:49 PM (I/doM)

389 >>> 369 >>Really, you morons who believe we will get to vote in someone even close to Trump again are delusional. When they destroy those candidates, you will rant impotently about how they have gone too far this time.

Yeah, I mentioned it in the last thread, but David Plouffe on CNN last night was saying "Trump was a key endorser in the primaries, and this raid will* make people think twice about voting for a Trump-endorsed candidate..."

* "will" used in place of "should" or "may" because: narrative being established. Everyone associated with Trump is just as bad/guilty/cancelled, you guys.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2022 12:47 PM (I/doM)

The commies have been shrieking at us for years about being rayciss white nationalist supremacist whatever the fck pops into their puny minds, so this shouldn't be a surprise.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 09, 2022 12:49 PM (llON8)

390 >> I don't know about the rest of you, but I personally have given up.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

I console myself with the thought that I'm old enough to probably die before the US's final collapse and subsequent occupation by foreign armies

Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 12:49 PM (geLO8)

391 Boy you can smell the troll desperation. They really got him this time. Lololol. Yep.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 09, 2022 12:50 PM (2hOms)

392 I doubt this raid helps military recruitment.

Posted by: mr tmz at August 09, 2022 12:50 PM (rJ48h)

393 I am having fun playing whack an idiot on twitter with people about this.
Posted by: alexthechick

I fear you are going to be extremely busy.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2022 12:50 PM (Am657)

394 >>I'm not kidding in the slightest. He needs to get away from the heavy handed, all up in your grill culture that is the Acela Corridor. He would be so, so much happier.

>>I'd be miserable too living there.

I live in the corridor and I'm not miserable in the least. It's not about location.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 12:50 PM (ZLI7S)

395 If DeSantis does manage to get into the WH, I sure hope he has the stomach and cajones to form a task force solely focused on settling family business.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 09, 2022 12:50 PM (N39Ws)

396 "Trump was a key endorser in the primaries, and this raid will make people think twice about voting for a Trump-endorsed candidate..."

I suspect rather the opposite myself. We'll see.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:50 PM (Ivdso)

397 I don't know about the rest of you, but I personally have given up.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 09, 2022 12:28 PM (AW0uW)

Voting isn't the solution. Really don't want violence. Putting Humpty Dumpty together again isn't an option. Rebuilding locally is the only choice. That means lots of local work, self-respect, and actually telling people "we don't do that here." It also means Irish democracy.

Posted by: WiNO at August 09, 2022 12:50 PM (EpDzw)

398 275

Two, TWO ! Republican senators, Barrasso and Scott, have spoken out against the raid.

This is why...I wonder if I should even vote.

Posted by: Ziba at August 09, 2022 12:51 PM (4h9M3)

399 the Chinese will probably get onshore first

Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 12:51 PM (geLO8)

400 Anyone seen dark fake Biden handshaking the air yet? The dark is definitely where that guy is.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:51 PM (/6Rxy)

401 Michael Steele -- HotAir's choice as GOP Party President! Our cool ~~black~~ Black friend!

You know, the guy who let himself literally be called literally a house nig-er live on CNN without fighting back. [By another guest not the CNN host who did nothing either.]

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 09, 2022 12:51 PM (yikp0)

402 But most of the GOP hates Trump too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (BFigT)

GOPe sees their power slipping away... not to Dems, but to Trump.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 09, 2022 12:51 PM (oHd/0)

403 We need to play the game by their rules and that is all. The next conservative president needs to make this come back times 1000 on the destructocrats and the media and corporate heads.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 09, 2022 12:22 PM (u4CEu)

Won't work. Deep state will actively subvert any R administration (that is not secretly part of the deep state (but even them to some lesser degree)).

Posted by: iron308 at August 09, 2022 12:51 PM (jAxSK)

404 I am having fun playing whack an idiot on twitter with people about this.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 09, 2022 12:47 PM (5zO3p)

I have a lance and spare horse if you'd like them.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 12:51 PM (cTCuP)

405 well, Joe Kent won

lets see if his hate for Kevin is real

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:52 PM (us2H3)

406 Pompeo's tweet is the key here: this sets an extremely unpleasant precedent, using the office of president to attack political rivals and destroy the person who ran against you? That's Putin-style behavior.

--

An obvious point apparently lost on Chris Chrispy and Michael Steele.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 09, 2022 12:52 PM (sVtYq)

407 >>> 402 But most of the GOP hates Trump too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (BFigT)

GOPe sees their power slipping away... not to Dems, but to Trump.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 09, 2022 12:51 PM (oHd/0)

I think you meant "graft". ;P

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 09, 2022 12:52 PM (llON8)

408 I suspect rather the opposite myself. We'll see.

This is an unprecedented red pill event. Red Tsunami. Ride the wave.

Posted by: Squid at August 09, 2022 12:52 PM (wkzCN)

409 The Russians might get Alaska back- they're comfortable with cold

Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 12:52 PM (geLO8)

410 This is why...I wonder if I should even vote.
Posted by: Ziba at August 09, 2022 12:51 PM (4h9M3)

--------
They just don't see it coming do they? The McCarthy's and the McConnells and the Grahams. So many people are no longer willing to pull the lever just because there's an R.

Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 12:52 PM (VJsqe)

411
Yeah, it's a tad strange they just took boxes of stuff without opening them or figuring out which docs fulfilled the supposed warrant.

Should be a field day for any lawyer worth it's salt
And if they fucked up the warrant, none of it is admissible.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:42 PM (mZ3xv)

They're not interested in using any of this stuff in court. It's all going to be strategically leaked at the appropriate time to fuck Trump's 2024 campaign.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2022 12:52 PM (n+4am)

412 You, seriously, would be so much happier if you just moved out of the DC / Boston corridor. I wouldn't say south of the Mason / Dixon for you. But rural Wisconsin or something like that ? Be a complete life changer for you.

It's more than that. I would probably be happier if I simply self-lobotomized and became a lo-fo mofo whose biggest thrill of the day is watching a new The Family Chantel episode. But I can't leave here because of personal considerations which cannot be changed. Ever.

I guess I'm finally burned out from all the cries of "This far and no farther!" which become smeared-away chalk lines.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 09, 2022 12:52 PM (AW0uW)

413 Nobody, absolutely nobody, has been fighting harder than Trump for the last 6 years. You might not like him but pretending he hasn't sacrificed a ton to bring this fight when nobody else would is ridiculous.
---
I don't disagree with that at all. Maybe better put as "he stopped landing blows."
Like De la Hoya against Mayweather, he was winning that fight, didn't stop until the final bell, but just .... ran out of punching power/steam.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 09, 2022 12:53 PM (hqgRM)

414 Who is Joe Kent? Who is Kevin?

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 12:53 PM (HS04+)

415 I remember the day Steele agreed with CNN that there were a lot of racists at CPAC or the RNC right after he ass appointed. This was at the height of his "popularity".

Beware any "Republican" who shit talks the base. That includes Phony Bitch Kristi and Fightin' Cock Massager Cruz.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:53 PM (/6Rxy)

416 >I am having fun playing whack an idiot on twitter with people about this.
Posted by: alexthechick

what is your weapon- flail? mace? claymore? halberd?

Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (geLO8)

417 >>>Someone publishes pictures of papers torn up and in a toilet bowl. Could have been anybody's toilet. Label it as Trump's and the whole world loses their mind.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (N39Ws)
------------------------

How clear the pictures were.
Notice the paper had absorbed no water and the ink was not blurred. Picture perfect you might say.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (WzJXd)

418 >>>I'm moving from deep blue VT to a very red western state by late fall. Anyone who wants to help is welcome!

Posted by: 496

>If you make french toast with maple syrup every morning I might consider it.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (WHt4f)

419 Even this cvck gets it:

That's the key here. EVERYONE gets it. No matter how you feel about the president, having him being attacked feels like an attack on us all.

I didn't like Reagan at the time, I was terrified he'd get us into nuclear war and destroy the world. I thought he was a lunatic. But when he was shot, I was enraged.

Non-political types and those on the left who aren't lunatic zealots all dislike this and are uncomfortable with it, at best. I think the Biden administration stomped on yet another rake here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (Ivdso)

420 Re Voting: You do you. But remember that 33,000 votes separated DeathSantis from sheet shitter Gillum.

Posted by: mr tmz at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (rJ48h)

421 The people thinking this was done to "take out Trump" are exactly the low IQ people the Deep State wants to fool.

This was done to make Trump a martyr and they hope we Trump in as the 2024 nominee. They would rather run against Trump than the crumbling America we have right now under Democrats.

Dont take the bait.

Posted by: Victory at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (cDOKD)

422 MAL is the abbreviation for Mar A Lago.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (5zO3p)

423 DeSantis statement was weak. What is a MAL? And why trivialize the raid by comparing it to hiring IRS agents? I have a bad feeling about Desantos.
Posted by: Dumbo Shrimp` at August 09, 2022 12:48 PM (SKkKl)

MAL is Mar-a-lago. I question if your nimble enough to make this kind of statement about Desantis.

It is not a trivial thing for the citizenry to have the IRS doubled. Especially if the DOJ weaponized. The IRS will have access to your financials and money. You think the weaponization of the IRS is trivial?

Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 09, 2022 12:55 PM (s3wLb)

424 it's gonna take a helluva lot of boating to fix this shit

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:56 PM (us2H3)

425 It's true.
--------------------
It's twue! It's twue!!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 09, 2022 12:56 PM (yikp0)

426 >>I suspect rather the opposite myself. We'll see.

Yes, this was coming from Obama's campaign manager, so it was wishcasting or telling people what they *should* think about this, not an accurate insight into how Trump/Trump-endorsed 2022 candidate supporters think.

We were watching CNN and MSNBC to identify what the narrative was.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2022 12:56 PM (I/doM)

427 This was done to make Trump a martyr and they hope we Trump in as the 2024 nominee. They would rather run against Trump than the crumbling America we have right now under Democrats.

English isn't your first language, is it? Soros is dredging the bottom of the barrel

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:56 PM (Ivdso)

428 Sen. Marsha Blackburn- @MarshaBlackburn

The FBI flew agents from Washington, D.C. to Mar-a-Lago for the sole purpose of advancing the bureau's years-long campaign to take down President Trump.

The FBI's raid of President Trump's home is a political witch hunt, and partisan federal prosecutions will only increase now that the Democrats just voted to give the IRS 87,000 more agents.

The Obama FBI began spying on President Trump as a candidate.

This isn't how a justice system should operate, and it should outrage every American.
If they can do this to Trump, they will do it to you!

Posted by: redridinghood at August 09, 2022 12:56 PM (NpAcC)

429 The republicans always buy the lefts narrative.

Republicans are racist!

Not all of us!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 12:56 PM (R8uWY)

430 Nothing more dangerous than a criminal organization that thinks it's above the law. And now ALL of America gets to see what's been going on behind closed doors for years.

This isn't the tip of the spear. It's the fuzzy shit at the end

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 12:56 PM (mZ3xv)

431 If they are successful, and I very much doubt they will be, DeSantis will have a perfect platform from which to start the purges, all provided by the Dems themselves. They're idiots and imbeciles.
Posted by: Archimedes
-------------------------------

Possibly they want DeSantis up there.

Maybe. They also wanted Trump to be the nom in '15. How'd that work out for them?

We need to stop acting like these losers are 10' tall. They're idiots.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (/NCI4)

432 I think the big takeaway is that J6 turned up jack shit

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (reQRc)

433 I can't wait to read "The conservative case for weaponizing the justice department against the opposition party." What's David French doing now?

Posted by: Tom at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (xUK01)

434 Rep. Anthony Sabatini
@AnthonySabatini
·
16h
It’s time for us in the Florida Legislature to call an emergency legislative session & amend our laws regarding federal agencies

Sever all ties with DOJ immediately

Any FBI agent conducting law enforcement functions outside the purview of our State should be arrested upon sight

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (m7R0k)

435 Endorsed. Fed investigates, testifies, handled evidence - acquit on any charges supported by the Feds.

I'll still believe the county deputies, and to some extent the state investigators, but no Feds.

Posted by: Ozborn at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (SNPUp)

436 Iris,
Did you see my response @350?

Yes, from SAM.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (anj39)

437 422 MAL is the abbreviation for Mar A Lago.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (5zO3p)

Mal. Bad. In the Latin.

Posted by: 29Victor at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (BJKQV)

438 Republicans pounce on FBI raid!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (R8uWY)

439 Lotta one-named concern trolls out today LOL

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (Ivdso)

440 Wray needs waterboarding.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 09, 2022 12:25 PM

You know, it's technically not waterboarding if you use diesel.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (PJ3De)

441 But I can't leave here because of personal considerations which cannot be changed. Ever.

OK. Fine. But if you ever change your mind, pop a flare. Before self-lobotomizing, consider a change of address.

Seeing everything fall to shit, and saying so, while mocking those chanting "everything is fine" is one thing. I enjoy it. Quitting is another. Don't quit.

I am telling you - because I've been here since the Romney days - where you live is absolutely part of the problem. That problem can be solved.

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (/cCOr)

442 >>>Someone publishes pictures of papers torn up and in a toilet bowl. Could have been anybody's toilet. Label it as Trump's and the whole world loses their mind.

Sure it wasn't the Koran and a Gitmo toilet???

Posted by: TIME magazine goosing up Jihadi rage at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (I/doM)

443 421 The people thinking this was done to "take out Trump" are exactly the low IQ people the Deep State wants to fool.

This was done to make Trump a martyr and they hope we Trump in as the 2024 nominee. They would rather run against Trump than the crumbling America we have right now under Democrats.

Dont take the bait.
Posted by: Victory at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (cDOKD)

I have a Cannaloupe Haze cart going. What are YOU smoking?

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (cTCuP)

444 This was done to make Trump a martyr and they hope we Trump in as the 2024 nominee. They would rather run against Trump than the crumbling America we have right now under Democrats.

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You really believe that? He already had a better-than-not chance of winning the nomination in '24. If he wanted it, it was practically his for the taking...barring anything unforeseen. Why make him a martyr to talk us into nominating him? Doesn't make sense.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (sVtYq)

445
second look at a Carly run ??

She's so vain

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 09, 2022 12:58 PM (63Dwl)

446 If the gop were serious, they would stop all business in the senate for the rest of the year in protest.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 12:58 PM (HS04+)

447 >.>>>I'm moving from deep blue VT to a very red western state by late fall. Anyone who wants to help is welcome!

Posted by: 496

I'm thinking Wyoming, sometime the next 2 years- scenery to rival Colorado and the state's politics will be much closer to mine

Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 12:58 PM (geLO8)

448 Sulla-Pinochet 2024

My new bumper sticker

Posted by: Eeyore at August 09, 2022 12:58 PM (TgBWG)

449 I just love all the comments about the rule of law, black letter law, etc.
That fig leaf has completely fallen.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
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The Democrats have ripped the blindfold off of Lady Justice, and used it to wipe their ass.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2022 12:58 PM (gMoVp)

450 What's David French doing now?
Posted by: Tom at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM

Fapping to MSNBC?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 09, 2022 12:58 PM (PJ3De)

451 This was done to make Trump a martyr and they hope we Trump in as the 2024 nominee. They would rather run against Trump than the crumbling America we have right now under Democrats.

Dont take the bait.

Posted by: Victory at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (cDOKD)

The nomination was already Trump's to take. Ease back on the dose, broheim.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 12:58 PM (/6Rxy)

452 They won't get a conviction. The idea is to tie up
Trump and put him on defense during the campaign. It's meant to try and hurt his credibility. But it's only going to make him more popular. They are trying to give Grandpa Shit My Pants and can't speak or whatever tool they put in to replace him a leg up. It won't work. The only thing they are doing is making sure more people vote for Trump.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (2hOms)

453 the DOJ has got to indict or it will look like overkill

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (us2H3)

454 "What restrains us now?"

Vote harder, see what happens.

Nothing changes until violence forces it.

Posted by: RedWhiteAndTrue at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (4pLQR)

455 Rep. Anthony Sabatini
@AnthonySabatini
·

Any FBI agent conducting law enforcement functions outside the purview of our State should be arrested upon sight

I guess shoot on sight is too provocative.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (lTGtQ)

456 >If you make french toast with maple syrup every morning I might consider it.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (WHt4f)

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There is no other way to make French toast

Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (y/Pmf)

457
I remember the day Steele agreed with CNN that there were a lot of racists at CPAC or the RNC right after he ass appointed. This was at the height of his "popularity".

Steele talked a good game on FNC when he was a LTGOV. I got schnookered just like a lot of other folks. Within hours of being given the RNC chair, he started shit-talking the Party and conservatives.

That guy is nothing more than a traitorous Donk mole. He's the Elbonian Defense Minister, buying up Jagdtigers for the Elbonian Army in 1946.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (n+4am)

458 No intelligent person would believe for a nanosecond that BS about the docs in the toilet. That the story has any attention at all is the height of stupidity.

Posted by: Ziba at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (4h9M3)

459 MP4, if you're absolutely, positively stuck there, bloom where you're planted. You're wasting precious time.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (cTCuP)

460 Sometimes it's just better all around if I don't post comments.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (sWM8x)

461 419 Non-political types and those on the left who aren't lunatic zealots all dislike this and are uncomfortable with it, at best. I think the Biden administration stomped on yet another rake here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (Ivdso)

Hopefully anally penetrated by said rake and infected with Monkey Pox.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 01:00 PM (ynpvh)

462 I would like to move to Wyoming; if I made enough money and my mom wasn't here I would.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 01:00 PM (Ivdso)

463 The Democrats have given Lady Justice puberty blockers

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 01:00 PM (/6Rxy)

464 That fig leaf has completely fallen.

I've talked with people whose job involved getting FISA surveillance warrants. It's not supposed to be super easy, and they get a lot of coaching on how to jump through the hoops legally. Talk to anybody who has to obtain warrants, and they all have a beef. The process is subjective, and involves a lot of trust in the judgment of the authorities. Some jurisdictions have long been famous for cutting corners. When the system works, it works pretty well.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at August 09, 2022 01:00 PM (x61Im)

465 Sometimes it's just better all around if I don't post comments.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (sWM8x)

Not pointing at you, but there are a few here that should take this advice and heed it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 01:00 PM (Zz0t1)

466 @SenatorTimScott says the American public needs to let the FBI’s search and DOJ investigation of former Pres. Trump “play out” before jumping to conclusions

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 01:00 PM (m7R0k)

467 Posted by: Marcus T at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (2hOms)

I hope you're right

but they probably feel the inverse of the Sussman's verdict

is true

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 01:01 PM (us2H3)

468 The FBI sent 30 ham-and-eggers to pick up 15 boxes?

They needed two retards for each box? Nice gig if you know somebody on the inside.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 09, 2022 01:01 PM (WHt4f)

469 I could buy that one of the Trumps tore up like a Time Magazine and flushed part of it just to F with the shock troopers, though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 01:01 PM (Ivdso)

470 I would like to move to Wyoming; if I made enough money and my mom wasn't here I would.

Lots of places I like. Just made a trip through Western Nebraska. Liked the views.

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 01:01 PM (/cCOr)

471 >>No intelligent person would believe for a nanosecond that BS about the docs in the toilet. That the story has any attention at all is the height of stupidity.

I know, right?

Posted by: MSM and people who believed Trump's Russian hotel piss-play at August 09, 2022 01:01 PM (I/doM)

472 Meanwhile, Nazi Pelosi is calling China one of the freest countries in the world:

https://youtu.be/mf0KUGnX0eQ

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 09, 2022 01:01 PM (Bd6X8)

473 You really believe that? He already had a better-than-not chance of winning the nomination in '24. If he wanted it, it was practically his for the taking...barring anything unforeseen. Why make him a martyr to talk us into nominating him? Doesn't make sense.

I do believe it. The flaw in your argument is in that last sentence. These people are really, really stupid. They can't think a couple of steps ahead. They're so blinded by their hatred of Trump that they make idiotic mistakes.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 01:01 PM (/NCI4)

474 @447: same. No income tax, constitutional carry, beautiful scenery, and lots of wind!

Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 01:02 PM (y/Pmf)

475 Posted by: Dumbo Shrimp`

Apt nic.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 09, 2022 01:02 PM (IEa8U)

476 We've been going to Wyoming in the summer for almost 30 years. I love it there but I would not live there full time. The winters can be brutal and I'm not a cold weather person.

Posted by: megthered at August 09, 2022 01:02 PM (AdxHD)

477 Yesterday after the raid I saw an interview with a Republican representative from Oklahoma who is on the intelligence committee. He also owns the largest plumbing company in Oklahoma. He said the toilet document flushing story is 100% implausible because after the first flush the pipes would have been almost fully blocked and the second would have blocked and backed up.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 09, 2022 01:02 PM (L8PU5)

478 @SenatorTimScott says the American public needs to let the FBI’s search and DOJ investigation of former Pres. Trump “play out” before jumping to conclusions
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 01:00 PM (m7R0k)

That is a reasonable statement...but hey Tim, the clock is ticking.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 09, 2022 01:02 PM (anj39)

479 Any FBI agent conducting law enforcement functions outside the purview of our State should be arrested upon sight
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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The ATF agent put-down should be the textbook.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2022 01:02 PM (pPheI)

480 Sometimes it's just better all around if I don't post comments.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (sWM8x)

Not pointing at you, but there are a few here that should take this advice and heed it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 01:00 PM (Zz0t1)

You will make a fantastic forum moderator one day. I'm sure of it.

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 01:02 PM (/cCOr)

481 Ogg play with fire once. Ogg got burned.

Posted by: Ogg at August 09, 2022 01:02 PM (oTZbj)

482 @SenatorTimScott says the American public needs to let the FBI’s search and DOJ investigation of former Pres. Trump “play out” before jumping to conclusions

I somewhat agree; we can't know exactly what the FBI was doing and why, or what the end result of that will be yet.

But I don't have to wait for the end of the trials to know that attacking a former president like this is an extremely sketchy and ill-considered idea. I don't have to wait for all the facts to come out to know that an FBI raid on the home of the president's opponent is third world dictator crap.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 01:02 PM (Ivdso)

483 MP4, if you're absolutely, positively stuck there, bloom where you're planted. You're wasting precious time.
Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (cTCuP)

Creeper, I actually bought a sign that says this; it's on a shelf in my living room. I am also stuck where I am for the time being and need reminding to make the best of things.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 09, 2022 01:02 PM (DRSnL)

484 466 @SenatorTimScott says the American public needs to let the FBI’s search and DOJ investigation of former Pres. Trump “play out” before jumping to conclusions
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 01:00 PM (m7R0k

Fool me once...

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (mZ3xv)

485 No intelligent person would believe for a nanosecond that BS about the docs in the toilet. That the story has any attention at all is the height of stupidity.

IF Trump was flushing documents that had anything incriminating on them, does ANYONE think he wouldn't flush, then STAND there watching to see if it all went down?

I mean, shit. It's embarrassing how STUPID everyone in the media things everyone ELSE is.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)

486 We have to raid political opponents. That is how we defeat fascism. Only fascists fear government agent raids!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (R8uWY)

487 >>I don't disagree with that at all. Maybe better put as "he stopped landing blows."
Like De la Hoya against Mayweather, he was winning that fight, didn't stop until the final bell, but just .... ran out of punching power/steam.

He's one guy who stood up to and exposed the Deep State and they have been fighting him and his family non-stop for 6 years. They have thrown every state power at him and he's still fighting.

I do not understand the urge to denigrate and find fault with the one person who has had the balls to risk his fortune to fight on our behalf. He's far from perfect, all of us are, but at least he fights and as long as he does the least I can do is support him.

Trump has brought us to a place where nobody can ignore the corruption and tyranny of our government any longer. People need to make a choice, they will either fight alongside Trump even if they don't like him or give up an accept tyranny because the fantasy of an armed insurgency is just that, a fantasy. This is where things get decided and if we throw in the towel now then we've lost.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (ZLI7S)

488 468 The FBI sent 30 ham-and-eggers to pick up 15 boxes?

They needed two retards for each box? Nice gig if you know somebody on the inside.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 09, 2022 01:01 PM (WHt4f)

Somewhere I saw said 100 agents...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (ynpvh)

489 Lotta one-named concern trolls out today LOL

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:57 PM (Ivdso)

*one-finger waives to all the concern trolls, mobies, controlled opposition and glowies*

You're #1!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (U3uv2)

490 On a lighter note: every Ferrari sold since 2005 is being recalled for potential brake failure.

That’s a big a meat-ball.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (HS04+)

491 466 @SenatorTimScott says the American public needs to let the FBI’s search and DOJ investigation of former Pres. Trump “play out” before jumping to conclusions

wait that asshat actually said this?!?!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (w0NJk)

492 @SenatorTimScott says the American public needs to let the FBI’s search and DOJ investigation of former Pres. Trump “play out” before jumping to conclusions
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 01:00 PM (m7R0k

Senator Tim Scott is now the guy running for mayor of Detroit in Robocop 2.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)

493 @SenatorTimScott says the American public needs to let the FBI’s search and DOJ investigation of former Pres. Trump “play out” before jumping to conclusions

--

Almost verbatim the horse squeeze that came out of Trey Gowdy's mouth years ago re: Russia.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (sVtYq)

494 "I am having fun playing whack an idiot on twitter with people about this.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 09, 2022 12:47 PM (5zO3p)"

That's a full time job. How do you find time to lawyer?

By the way, what are you wearing?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (2hOms)

495 Nood

Posted by: Furious George at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (CkFy6)

496 472 Meanwhile, Nazi Pelosi is calling China one of the freest countries in the world:

https://youtu.be/mf0KUGnX0eQ

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 09, 2022 01:01 PM (Bd6X

If things keep going on here, maybe as free as us...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (ynpvh)

497 I do believe it. The flaw in your argument is in that last sentence. These people are really, really stupid. They can't think a couple of steps ahead. They're so blinded by their hatred of Trump that they make idiotic mistakes.

If you doubt that, consider what kind of people would think that a Biden steal, or a J6 committee, or an Impeachment 2 Boogaloo was a good idea. They're going to lose HUGELY in November, and they have only themselves to blame.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 01:04 PM (/NCI4)

498 Meanwhile, Nazi Pelosi is calling China one of the freest countries in the world:

https://youtu.be/mf0KUGnX0eQ
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 09, 2022 01:01 PM (Bd6X

++++
It's ambiguous AF to figure out whether she's talking about the PRC or the RoC as being a fairly free country with a strong democracy. Given the context clues about the "One China Policy" it would appear to refer to the PRC although it is applicable only for the RoC.

As usual. she's clear as mud.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 01:04 PM (WWh8n)

499 They're going to lose HUGELY in November, and they have only themselves to blame.

Sorry, meant to say YUGELY.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 09, 2022 01:04 PM (/NCI4)

500 No intelligent person would believe for a nanosecond that BS about the docs in the toilet. That the story has any attention at all is the height of stupidity.

IF Trump was flushing documents that had anything incriminating on them, does ANYONE think he wouldn't flush, then STAND there watching to see if it all went down?

I mean, shit. It's embarrassing how STUPID everyone in the media things everyone ELSE is.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)

It's barely more believable that Russian pee-hookers. Kudos on the personal growth, leftists.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 01:04 PM (U3uv2)

501 Sometimes it's just better all around if I don't post comments.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 09, 2022 12:59 PM (sWM8x)

Same here.

I try to keep my cynicism and depression in check, but on days like this, it flows like the mighty Mississippi.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 09, 2022 01:04 PM (AW0uW)

502 I worry for Trump.

It's clear he's been forced to a horrible choice he never wanted--lead this country to civil war or die a broken man in prison watching as the totalitarian state grinds down everyone everywhere.

There are only two courses now: Fight or live on your knees.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 09, 2022 01:04 PM (hqgRM)

503 The winters can be brutal and I'm not a cold weather person.

The climate isn't ideal (its awful hot in the summer as well) but I don't get out much anyway and cold does not bother me nearly as much as heat.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 01:04 PM (Ivdso)

504 Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (ZLI7S)

A++

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2022 01:04 PM (us2H3)

505 IF Trump was flushing documents that had anything incriminating on them, does ANYONE think he wouldn't flush, then STAND there watching to see if it all went down?

I mean, shit. It's embarrassing how STUPID everyone in the media things everyone ELSE is.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)

No shit. Yeah, I'm gonna flush these and walk away, so they're just laying there all neat for someone to come along and see them. WTF.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 09, 2022 01:04 PM (DRSnL)

506 If DeSantis does manage to get into the WH, I sure hope he has the stomach and cajones to form a task force solely focused on settling family business.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 09, 2022 12:50 PM (N39Ws)

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Outsource it to the Cartels. Promise them they'll get back their tens of millions paid to the Biden Crime Family for partnering in the human, drug, & sex trafficking operations.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 01:04 PM (+lwg5)

507 What is a "federal magistrate judge"? I don't understand the terminology.
Posted by: Caliban at August 09, 2022 12:44 PM (HgGBT)

Hired help...

Posted by: Boswell at August 09, 2022 01:04 PM (+Cgut)

508 Of courser that never happened it was yet another stringer special from some radical Muslim attempting to stir up rage against the coalition forces.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 12:46 PM (Ivdso)

Everybody knows the way to deal with korans is to burn them. Toilets get enough shit as it is.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 09, 2022 01:05 PM (BtqOp)

509 >I am having fun playing whack an idiot on twitter with people about this.
Posted by: alexthechick

what is your weapon- flail? mace? claymore? halberd?
Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 12:54 PM (geLO

Polish Nadziak?

Posted by: mrp at August 09, 2022 01:05 PM (6eRlp)

510
and those on the left who aren't lunatic zealots all dislike this and are uncomfortable with it

All four of them...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2022 01:05 PM (n+4am)

511 >> We've been going to Wyoming in the summer for almost 30 years. I love it there but I would not live there full time. The winters can be brutal and I'm not a cold weather person.

Posted by: megthered

well I was also thinking Utah or Arizona, but those states seem to be flirting with purple syndrome

Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 01:05 PM (geLO8)

512 Blackburn's statement is a good one. It's the model of a decent statement if you're not looking for something too fiery. Witch hunt is correct, and the bare minimum which should be said.

Note well she refers to him as "President Trump" not "former President Trump" a la cunty Kristi Noem. Yes, word choice matters in these things. The choices tell you everything you need to know.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 01:06 PM (/6Rxy)

513 A magistrate IS NOT a "judge"

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 09, 2022 01:06 PM (HMTci)

514 >>> 462 I would like to move to Wyoming; if I made enough money and my mom wasn't here I would.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 01:00 PM (Ivdso)

This is never an easy situation. I know most older people won't want to leave their homes the longer they've lived there, and/or may have health issues making it difficult or almost impossible to move. On the other hand, depending on where you live, your neighbors could make you wish you moved.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 09, 2022 01:06 PM (llON8)

515 If the gop were serious, they would stop all business in the senate for the rest of the year in protest.
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No.
Announce they are no longer honoring the power sharing agreement.
No longer recognizing Schumer as Leader, no longer the Dems as "majority."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 09, 2022 01:07 PM (hqgRM)

516 477 Yesterday after the raid I saw an interview with a Republican representative from Oklahoma who is on the intelligence committee. He also owns the largest plumbing company in Oklahoma. He said the toilet document flushing story is 100% implausible because after the first flush the pipes would have been almost fully blocked and the second would have blocked and backed up.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 09, 2022 01:02 PM (L8PU5)

Markwayne Mullin. He can be a bit of a loose cannon but he fights. He flew to Afghanistan to rescue some of those left behind.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 01:07 PM (cTCuP)

517 491 466 @SenatorTimScott says the American public needs to let the FBI’s search and DOJ investigation of former Pres. Trump “play out” before jumping to conclusions

wait that asshat actually said this?!?!
Posted by: BlackOrchid
Si.

Shortly after he endorsed Murklutzky (D-AK)

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 01:07 PM (m7R0k)

518 They're so blinded by their hatred of Trump that they make idiotic mistakes.
Posted by: Archimedes
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The problem, or a problem, is that historically, a free press would have loudly protested such overtly political abuses, conveying that perspective to the masses. Now, not at all. The sundry (actually Corporate, now) media actually convey a tacit approval of such abuses... let's call it 'corruption'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2022 01:07 PM (PoAMp)

519 What level of sally kohn stupidty and gullibility do you have to have in order to believe the toilet flushing of documents actually happened.

The man is a billionaire with hundreds of people at his disposal to shred or burn documents and instead he takes them to a dirty bathroom, barely rips them up and tries to flush them. In multiple toilets.

Gtfo here

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 09, 2022 01:08 PM (Q0CH5)

520 379 DeSantis statement was weak. What is a MAL? And why trivialize the raid by comparing it to hiring IRS agents? I have a bad feeling about Desantos.
Posted by: Dumbo Shrimp`

Your concern is very concerning. Thank you for bringing up your concerning concern, Mr. Concern McConsernican.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 09, 2022 01:09 PM (sAmhv)

521 Diogenes - thanks. Looking for the RFP.

Posted by: Iris at August 09, 2022 01:09 PM (NaH5I)

522 what exactly do they think he was flushing?

evidence of which noncrime?

these loons are like "trump guilty, squawk, repeat the line." but of what?

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 09, 2022 01:09 PM (OuH7W)

523 well I was also thinking Utah or Arizona, but those states seem to be flirting with purple syndrome
Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 01:05 PM (geLO

Oklahoma. But for God's sake, don't tell anyone.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 01:09 PM (cTCuP)

524 What level of sally kohn stupidty and gullibility do you have to have in order to believe the toilet flushing of documents actually happened.
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You do understand that we are talking about Democrat voters, right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2022 01:10 PM (PoAMp)

525 The Russians might get Alaska back- they're comfortable with cold
Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 12:52 PM (geLO

That would be a huge shot in the arm for the drilling industry there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 09, 2022 01:10 PM (BtqOp)

526 336 Wray needs waterboarding.
It's not waterboarding if you use battery acid.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 12:43 PM (m7R0k)

I guess wet concrete is right out, then?

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 09, 2022 01:11 PM (MkuC5)

527
Note well she refers to him as "President Trump" not "former President Trump" a la cunty Kristi Noem. Yes, word choice matters in these things. The choices tell you everything you need to know.
Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 01:06 PM (/6Rxy)

She should stick to servicing her stallions on her SD ranch.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 09, 2022 01:11 PM (m7R0k)

528 Dems have us discussing toilet mechanics. I'm past that.

Posted by: mrp at August 09, 2022 01:11 PM (6eRlp)

529 well, you see...trump's hiding evidence that he uh wanted to overturn the election by using legal avenues to find voter fraud and count votes properly.

ah hah! wait, so?

lib minds don't remember their 2016 and 2000 vote truthism. nor do they remember their 2020 riots when they bemoan the peaceful parading of 1/6,

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 09, 2022 01:12 PM (OuH7W)

530 Supreme Court has the authority to chastise and punish lower courts... if they do not do so???? Their authority, like the Queen of Englands.... is moot. Authority not used, soon ceases to exist.

Posted by: Romeo13
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Yep. When Robert's led Scotus ignored the Pa Sup. Ct. stiffing Justice Alito's hold on illegal changes to the election laws just before the 2020 election, it indicated that Scotus could be rolled. Fortunately, the stupid left tried their leaking of the Dobbs abortion decision to make the court cowardly again. That was a wet fizzle except for the triggered leftist would be assassin.

Court needs to take a page from desegregation days when the Court routinely overturned state and lower court decisions with no opinion other than citing its precedent and then remanded it to the lower courts to get it right. Lower court judges hate having to redo their homework.

Posted by: whig at August 09, 2022 01:12 PM (CXr4y)

531 Two and a quarter inches of rain so far this morning. The world may go to hell but it'll be green when it does.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2022 01:13 PM (cTCuP)

532 lib minds don't remember their 2016 and 2000 vote truthism. nor do they remember their 2020 riots when they bemoan the peaceful parading of 1/6,

Posted by: Doctor sockamster
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They do remember, they just lie about it. Essentially, they are not liberals anymore but leftists. Lying is a feature not a bug about anything that advances the cause.

Posted by: whig at August 09, 2022 01:13 PM (CXr4y)

533 A magistrate IS NOT a "judge"
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 09, 2022 01:06 PM (HMTci)

The distinction in a lot of areas is too small to matter.

Posted by: Boswell at August 09, 2022 01:13 PM (+Cgut)

534 Bottom line: Dems can't afford regime change. It doesn't matter who gets the 2024 GOP presidential nomination.

Posted by: mrp at August 09, 2022 01:16 PM (6eRlp)

535 Rumor has it that Adam Schiff could be heard having an orgasm clear out in the hall outside his DC office yesterday.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 09, 2022 01:16 PM (FF+On)

536 The problem, or a problem, is that historically, a free press would have loudly protested such overtly political abuses, conveying that perspective to the masses. Now, not at all. The sundry (actually Corporate, now) media actually convey a tacit approval of such abuses... let's call it 'corruption'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer
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This is an end product of Republican administrations and Congresses allowing media concentration in the name of free enterprise. Monopolies and oligopolies are always about restricting market access and partnering with government to go about doing that.

Large is almost always bad from an efficiency and political standpoint whether it is big city government, a monopoly or oligopolistic firm, school systems, or an ngo. To the extent that hippies were right--small is beautiful.

Posted by: whig at August 09, 2022 01:18 PM (CXr4y)

537 Meanwhile, Pelosi waves away McCarthy's hearings tweet, explaining that the GOP will not win the House in 2022.

Posted by: mrp at August 09, 2022 01:21 PM (6eRlp)

538 Diogenes: you left off the best part:

The U.S. Government currently intends to award a contract for 24/7/365 criminal, threat, and intelligence reporting on a SOLE SOURCE basis,

Favored grifter already selected. This is just a fig leaf.

Posted by: Iris at August 09, 2022 01:23 PM (NaH5I)

539 507 What is a "federal magistrate judge"? I don't understand the terminology.
Posted by: Caliban
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Magistrate judges do not have lifetime appointments and are basically there to process routine matters. Same in the medical system as APRNs or physician's assistants. Like those medical professionals order screening tests, renew drug prescriptions, gather information, etc., federal magistrate judges issue routine search warrants, handle misdemeanor cases, low dollar civil cases, and so forth.

Given the complex politics and legal issues of issuing a search warrant on a former president, this is like a physician's assistant suddenly cracking open their patient for open heart surgery in the examination room.

Posted by: whig at August 09, 2022 01:24 PM (CXr4y)

540 Monopolies and oligopolies are always about restricting market access and partnering with government to go about doing that.

Large is almost always bad from an efficiency and political standpoint whether it is big city government, a monopoly or oligopolistic firm, school systems, or an ngo. To the extent that hippies were right--small is beautiful.
Posted by: whig
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See: The Affordable HealthCare Act. The entities pulling for that were the large hospital corporations and insurance companies. Medicine and the practice of medicine have been severely damaged in consequence. But hey, $$$!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2022 01:25 PM (BlQBM)

541 Court needs to take a page from desegregation days when the Court routinely overturned state and lower court decisions with no opinion other than citing its precedent and then remanded it to the lower courts to get it right. Lower court judges hate having to redo their homework.
Posted by: whig at August 09, 2022 01:12 PM (CXr4y)

We need this for all the stupid laws that Dems just do in spite of the Supreme Court ruling. Too much process - just slap them down and they can spend years in the court getting their law on the books rather than us getting the law off the books.

Posted by: Iris at August 09, 2022 01:26 PM (NaH5I)

542 Can we do DeSantis for pres, Trump for speaker?

Posted by: boynsea at August 09, 2022 01:35 PM (cx155)

543 Stop blaming Republicans for this mess. We have more than our share of two-faced shit bags; Boehner, Ryan, McCain, Romney....oh wait, forget it.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at August 09, 2022 01:53 PM (B4q3t)

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