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Lisbon, by Johannes Berger

He knows what's up.

Swozzled squirrel.

If I remember right, this is the Laura Craft: Tomb Raider ride, which has now been closed.

Lioness and cub cuddling.

Airplane-deployed naval smokescreen.

This is our beach, Foot-Walkers.

Zoo bully.

Rescuing a giant turtle who's got himself hopelessly (and lethally) trapped in a tree's root.

Interesting clip from the old Cosmos show, demonstrating the ancient mathematician Eratosthenes' method of proving that the earth was round, and then further establishing the actual circumference of the globe using only geometry, one key (correct) assumption about the sun's rays, and a couple of measurements of the angles formed by the shadows falling from sticks at noon and the measurement of the distance from one city (Syene) to Alexandria.

Note the distance between cities was measured just by paying a guy to literally measure it out in walking paces.

Eratosthenes then used this to calculate the circumference of the Earth to be about 250,000 stadia. Modern scholars disagree about the length of the stadium used by Eratosthenes. Values between 500 and about 600 feet have been suggested, putting Eratosthenes' calculated circumference between about 24,000 miles and about 29,000 miles. The Earth is now known to measure about 24,900 miles around the equator, slightly less around the poles.

He's okay. Don't even worry. Just a little roughed up.

This is interesting. And scary. But instructive.

Posted by: Ace at 07:35 PM




Comments

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1 Did I miss First by reading the content?

Posted by: Fox2! at July 27, 2022 07:36 PM (ueLz3)

2 First!

I will declare NOODand summon corgis.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 27, 2022 07:37 PM (ueLz3)

3 Lucky tres

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 07:37 PM (MGB5H)

4 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 27, 2022 07:37 PM (T4tVD)

5 Top 10 at least

Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2022 07:39 PM (k8B25)

6 The Chiroptophiles of AoSHQ remain underappreciated. Sad!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 27, 2022 07:41 PM (a3Q+t)

7 Lisbon, by Johannes Berger


What a beautiful city, now that those disgusting people are all gone.

Posted by: Klaus Schwab at July 27, 2022 07:41 PM (MFphb)

8 Turtle rescue...that's what I want to do for a living !

Posted by: runner at July 27, 2022 07:42 PM (V13WU)

9 The Laura Craft ride? No fkin way, upside down kills me

Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2022 07:42 PM (k8B25)

10 That fantastic cliff-climbing rescue also happened during the building of the Hoover Dam. A worker's line failed, he went into a free-fall, two other workers understood what was happening and dropped themselves to intercept him. Staggering courage.

Posted by: Wenda at July 27, 2022 07:42 PM (gPRZb)

11 The elephant is illustrative of the GOP, all show,no go.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 27, 2022 07:43 PM (oWBc3)

12 I think I shit my pants on the elephant video.

Easy Tembo !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 27, 2022 07:43 PM (M+Lyo)

13 The cable bridge over the little stream is neat.

Posted by: Tuna at July 27, 2022 07:44 PM (gLRfa)

14 Eratosthenes was a dude.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 07:44 PM (atmen)

15 That elephant sure was worked up.

Wonder what kinda rifle that Game Warden was toting?

FAL, G3 or an AK?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2022 07:44 PM (R/m4+)

16 the dog one I added at the end is cute

Posted by: ace at July 27, 2022 07:44 PM (B3oWe)

17 Where was that Lara Croft ride? Be the 3rd Lara Croft I'd choose to ride but def would.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 07:45 PM (MGB5H)

18 12 I think I shit my pants on the elephant video.

Easy Tembo !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 27, 2022 07:43 PM (M+Lyo)

Same. Except it was a bed.

Posted by: Amber Heard at July 27, 2022 07:45 PM (HVuiX)

19 Why is he wearing a mask? Loser.
No way on Sri Lanka: they have no gas to drive around.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at July 27, 2022 07:45 PM (b+v9B)

20 >>> 19 Why is he wearing a mask? Loser.
No way on Sri Lanka: they have no gas to drive around.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at July 27, 2022 07:45 PM (b+v9B)

Maybe it's from a year ago?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 27, 2022 07:46 PM (llON8)

21 >>>18 12 I think I shit my pants on the elephant video.

I did too except what elephant video

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 27, 2022 07:46 PM (B3oWe)

22 the dog one I added at the end is cute
Posted by: ace at July 27, 2022 07:44 PM (B3oWe)

Goldens are characters I tell ya.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (M+Lyo)

23 Not first, but I wanna take the opportunity to scream anyway.



Do people realize that Pedo Joe stood up in the Rose Garden today and talked about how he was morally superior to his opponent, who didn't have a choice of _working_ medicines for Covid, thanks to The Bureaucracy, and therefore morally superior to everyone else who didn't get his custom fucking designer drug version of ivermectin as well?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (qL3aU)

24 >>>6 The Chiroptophiles of AoSHQ remain underappreciated. Sad!


I forgot, I'll try to find a bat for you, Duncanthrax.

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (B3oWe)

25 I was told there would be no Eratosthenes on this blog.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (sWM8x)

26 don't like heights.

Al all.

Posted by: Zeera at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (Slj51)

27 Is that dog feeding piglets?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (atmen)

28 Stories about Columbus aside, from Eratosthenes on, pretty much every educated person knew the Earth was round.

Columbus actually did some pretty shitty math, arguing that the world was a lot smaller than it actually is.

If there hadn't been another continent in the way, he'd never have been heard from again.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (bW8dp)

29 Cable Bridge is awesome, shame not for a train set

Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2022 07:48 PM (k8B25)

30 The joke's on Eratosthenes. Everyone knows the earth is flat.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at July 27, 2022 07:48 PM (vcv8B)

31 The joke's on Eratosthenes. Everyone knows the earth is flat.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at July 27, 2022 07:48 PM (vcv8B)

Hollow earth FTW. With a little sun inside.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 07:49 PM (eoQWY)

32 >>>Columbus actually did some pretty shitty math, arguing that the world was a lot smaller than it actually is.


I think part of that was wishful thinking and "conning your investors," because he needed it to be smaller to have any hope of making it to asia.

Posted by: ace at July 27, 2022 07:49 PM (B3oWe)

33 He is in a jungle!

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at July 27, 2022 07:49 PM (b+v9B)

34 Save the Turtles! Outlaw trees!

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 07:49 PM (BJKQV)

35 Do people realize that Pedo Joe stood up in the Rose Garden today and talked about how he was morally superior to his opponent, who didn't have a choice of _working_ medicines for Covid, thanks to The Bureaucracy, and therefore morally superior to everyone else who didn't get his custom fucking designer drug version of ivermectin as well?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (qL3aU)

And yet there are more deaths under Joe than OrangeManBad.

#GrimMilestones

Posted by: Bete at July 27, 2022 07:49 PM (HVuiX)

36 Linda, linda, salvado!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 07:50 PM (xhaym)

37 13 The cable bridge over the little stream is neat.
Posted by: Tuna at July 27, 2022 07:44 PM (gLRfa)


Agreed. I was thinking of the guy's answer to the inevitable "why?" questions, and settled on "because I fucking can, that's why!" as the best response.

That mask, tho...

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at July 27, 2022 07:50 PM (v23vE)

38 Wonder what kinda rifle that Game Warden was toting?

FAL, G3 or an AK?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2022 07:44 PM (R/m4+)

Probably a big caliber like .375 HH or .416 Rigby minimum

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 27, 2022 07:50 PM (M+Lyo)

39 Hollow earth FTW. With a little sun inside.
Posted by: Oldcat at

That's where Kong is from. I saw it in a movie so it must be true.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 07:50 PM (MGB5H)

40 AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

Do people realize that Pedo Joe stood up in the Rose Garden today and talked about how he was morally superior to his opponent, who didn't have a choice of _working_ medicines for Covid, thanks to The Bureaucracy, and therefore morally superior to everyone else who didn't get his custom fucking designer drug version of ivermectin as well?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (qL3aU)

Don't know why you are even surprised, much less angry.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 07:50 PM (eoQWY)

41 Re: Eratosthenes

According to the book I read a couple of weeks ago, Civilization One, he suggested the Earth was around 130,650,335 Olympian feet in circumference. The "Greek foot" was a geodetic measurement, meaning it was directly related to the size of the Earth. Another calculation places the circumference at exactly 129,600,000 Greek feet, which is equivalent to the distance the Earth rotates in one day as measured against a known object in the sky. There's some wild stuff about ancient measurements...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 07:50 PM (K5n5d)

42 (Sri Lanka)

Is there a charging station anywhere on this stretch? I'm about out of juice.

Posted by: Electric Vehicle Owner at July 27, 2022 07:51 PM (Jg92y)

43 If there hadn't been another continent in the way, he'd never have been heard from again.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (bW8dp)

At the rate the left is going, with in 50 years no one will hear of him then either.

Posted by: Bete at July 27, 2022 07:51 PM (HVuiX)

44
FAL, G3 or an AK?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2022 07:44 PM (R/m4+)


Sporterized Enfield

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 07:52 PM (xhaym)

45 In the Wait for it video that is a piglet isn't it?

Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2022 07:52 PM (k8B25)

46 Evening.

Posted by: Robert at July 27, 2022 07:52 PM (gCoft)

47 No way on Sri Lanka road. I hate driving I70 over the rockies in the winter.

Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2022 07:53 PM (mn1Pi)

48 I wanted to see the guy walk across his bridge. Faker!

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at July 27, 2022 07:53 PM (b+v9B)

49 Stories about Columbus aside, from Eratosthenes on, pretty much every educated person knew the Earth was round.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (bW8dp)
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People knew the Earth was round long before Eratosthenes, as certain precise measurements used by the ancients can only be made by assuming a rotating Earth compared with known objects in the night sky.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 07:53 PM (K5n5d)

50 Sorry to willow previous thread.

Inflation Act - if passed and Inflation does not reduce significantly. Gives Rs opening once they take the house. As Dave in FL states: raising taxes during a recession is never a good idea.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 27, 2022 07:53 PM (NW9xb)

51 Since this the Café- I'm going to tell you that red wing blackbirds, meadowlarks and robins are all safe to eat and delicious. I have taste tested them all.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 07:54 PM (6HZ10)

52 In the Wait for it video that is a piglet isn't it?
Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2022 07:52 PM (k8B25)


By George, I think you're right.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at July 27, 2022 07:55 PM (AiZBA)

53 Sporterized Enfield
Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 07:52 PM (xhaym)

It did flash a shiny butt plate there for a second or two so you may be correct.

The Game Wardens carry to use on poachers, democrats and sodomites who are out for ivory if I remember right.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2022 07:55 PM (R/m4+)

54 Well duh Ben 4 and 20 blackbirds baked in a pie is supposed to be good.

I'll stick to chicken myself

Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2022 07:55 PM (k8B25)

55 The Earth. She's a round, likea yur head

Posted by: Columbus at July 27, 2022 07:55 PM (sn5EN)

56 People knew the Earth was round long before Eratosthenes, as certain precise measurements used by the ancients can only be made by assuming a rotating Earth compared with known objects in the night sky.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 07:53 PM (K5n5d)


I think Herodotus was not aware of that, he mentioned that the tale of the Carthaginians who went around Africa was unrealistic because it mentioned that the sun for the farthest parts stayed in the Northern sky

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 07:56 PM (xhaym)

57 I'd unravel ev'ry riddle
For my individdle
In trouble or in pain
With the thoughts
That I'd be thinkin'
I could be another Lincoln
If I only had a brain

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at July 27, 2022 07:56 PM (XfwRh)

58 The "Greek foot" was a geodetic measurement, meaning it was directly related to the size of the Earth. Another calculation places the circumference at exactly 129,600,000 Greek feet, which is equivalent to the distance the Earth rotates in one day as measured against a known object in the sky. There's some wild stuff about ancient measurements...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 07:50 PM (K5n5d)

If the Greeks had a foot measure, it would be based off the foot. If they had a "paces" measure, then it would be based off some sort of stride value. And a rule of thumb comes from a thumb.

The distance / time for a star to go from zenith to zenith is the siderial day and is somewhat shorter than a noon to noon day since the earth has moved on a bit in its orbit and has to spin a little longer to get the sun back to the same place. Difference is 4 minutes.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 07:56 PM (eoQWY)

59 In the Wait for it video that is a piglet isn't it?
----

Piglet noticed that even though he had a Very Small Heart, it could hold a rather large amount of Gratitude

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 07:57 PM (MGB5H)

60 Was watching Perry Mason last night.
Guy was pissed they cooked him a steak for dinner as it was a $1.63 a pound.

Inflation adjusted, that's $16 a pound.

No poor man was he. Was going to buy his stock back from Perry at $35k, or $350,000 today.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 27, 2022 07:57 PM (5ar9k)

61 And snowy mountain blows the margins. Nice job. Those of us on phones can now barely read the thread.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 27, 2022 07:57 PM (u73oe)

62 Eratosthenes was correct if you accept the definiton of stadia that makes him correct.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 07:57 PM (BJKQV)

63 Do people realize that Pedo Joe stood up in the Rose Garden today and talked about how he was morally superior to his opponent, who didn't have a choice of _working_ medicines for Covid, thanks to The Bureaucracy, and therefore morally superior to everyone else who didn't get his custom fucking designer drug version of ivermectin as well?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (qL3aU)


Do you get mad when the lot lizards are out at the truck stop making money? This is what whores do.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 07:58 PM (xhaym)

64 Heh. Sri Lanka video. That would be the death of my ex SIL. She was phobic about even crossing bridges. She got stuck on the Woodrow Wilson once when it went into drawbridge mode and about had a nervous breakdown.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 27, 2022 07:58 PM (lz5hY)

65 >>The Chiroptophiles of AoSHQ remain underappreciated. Sad!

https://tinyurl.com/2s3wrrbr

Posted by: JackStraw at July 27, 2022 07:58 PM (ZLI7S)

66 Skip, right up until you have no chicken.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 07:58 PM (6HZ10)

67 The only reason to have the GOPe win is to hang the collapse.on them.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at July 27, 2022 07:58 PM (b+v9B)

68 I think Herodotus was not aware of that, he mentioned that the tale of the Carthaginians who went around Africa was unrealistic because it mentioned that the sun for the farthest parts stayed in the Northern sky
Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 07:56 PM (xhaym)

Eh, there are always outliers in knowledge. Hell a bunch of people don't belive we went to the moon, that socialism can work and that Joe Biden is a decent man.

Posted by: Bete at July 27, 2022 07:58 PM (HVuiX)

69 People knew the Earth was round long before Eratosthenes, as certain precise measurements used by the ancients can only be made by assuming a rotating Earth compared with known objects in the night sky.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 07:53 PM (K5n5d)

Also, ships near the horizon would incrementally vanish, hull first. This was the same in every direction, so the curvature would be the same in all directions, so a sphere.

The fact that the stars moved relative to the sun in the sky meant that either the earth, or the sun was moving.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 07:59 PM (eoQWY)

70 51 Since this the Café- I'm going to tell you that red wing blackbirds, meadowlarks and robins are all safe to eat and delicious. I have taste tested them all.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 07:54 PM (6HZ10)


Red-wing blackbirds, aka Mexican blackbirds, are extremely difficult to take on the wing. I have, however killed 27 at once when they landed in a field while I was dove hunting.

Posted by: Ex-ex at July 27, 2022 07:59 PM (RU4sa)

71 Fun fact: In Russian, the equivalent expression to our “to reinvent the wheel” is “to discover America.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 07:59 PM (atmen)

72 DUI's in Sri Lanka resolve themselves.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at July 27, 2022 08:00 PM (TrNEq)

73 I think Herodotus was not aware of that, he mentioned that the tale of the Carthaginians who went around Africa was unrealistic because it mentioned that the sun for the farthest parts stayed in the Northern sky
Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 07:56 PM (xhaym)

A lot of modern historians are dopes about science too.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:00 PM (eoQWY)

74 Why does the senile, correct, pervert so determined to compare himself to DJT?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 08:01 PM (eGTCV)

75 Ya know, I've only ever seen *one* lot lizard and she was walking with a rather large black guy (like I think his name was Big McLargeHuge) to his truck.

Posted by: Robert at July 27, 2022 08:01 PM (f+EI1)

76 Red-wing blackbirds, aka Mexican blackbirds, are extremely difficult to take on the wing. I have, however killed 27 at once when they landed in a field while I was dove hunting.
Posted by: Ex-ex at July 27, 2022 07:59 PM (RU4sa)

They were pointing out the doves for you when you shot them.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:01 PM (eoQWY)

77 Probably a big caliber like .375 HH or .416 Rigby minimum
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 27, 2022 07:50 PM (M+Lyo)

.600 H&H Nitro Express, side by side double barrel.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 27, 2022 08:01 PM (ueLz3)

78 Corrupt not correct

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 08:01 PM (eGTCV)

79 The distance / time for a star to go from zenith to zenith is the siderial day and is somewhat shorter than a noon to noon day since the earth has moved on a bit in its orbit and has to spin a little longer to get the sun back to the same place. Difference is 4 minutes.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 07:56 PM (eoQWY)
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That's exactly correct. The sidereal day is a little bit shorter than the solar day that we use for our normal experiences. There is some very compelling evidence that the sidereal day *was* used to establish a fundamental unit of measurement called the "Megalithic Yard" that establishes base units for length, volume, weight, and even time.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 08:02 PM (K5n5d)

80 70 When I was a kid, Ohio had a bounty on red winged blackbirds. Two bits each, same as crows. You take your .22 and scissors to cut off the right wing to turn in, and could actually make a dollar or two.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 27, 2022 08:02 PM (lz5hY)

81 Columbus actually did some pretty shitty math, arguing that the world was a lot smaller than it actually is.
If there hadn't been another continent in the way, he'd never have been heard from again.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (bW8dp)


One school of thought was that he had a chart that someone made of a land fall in the new world from being blown off course to or from the Cape Verde Islands, which indicated land and that the Indies were closer than calculated.

Otherwise he was clearly off his calculations and in fantasyland, geographically speaking.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:02 PM (xhaym)

82 Fun fact: In Russian, the equivalent expression to our “to reinvent the wheel” is “to discover America.”
Posted by: B


which is funny because when America was discovered the indians did not even know what a wheel was

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:02 PM (usdNd)

83 Since this the Café- I'm going to tell you that red wing blackbirds, meadowlarks and robins are all safe to eat and delicious. I have taste tested them all.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 07:54 PM (6HZ10)

dinosaurs are dinosaurs.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:02 PM (eoQWY)

84 Ex-ex, Feast! Cooked in garlic and white wine they are fantastic.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:03 PM (6HZ10)

85 Heh. Sri Lanka video. That would be the death of my ex SIL. She was phobic about even crossing bridges. She got stuck on the Woodrow Wilson once when it went into drawbridge mode and about had a nervous breakdown.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 27, 2022 07:58 PM (lz5hY)
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Doesn't the Mackinac Bridge in Michigan employ "professional drivers" to help people cross the bridge who might have trouble with heights?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 08:03 PM (K5n5d)

86 FAL, G3 or an AK?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2022 07:44 PM

===

Sporterized Enfield
Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 07:52 PM


It wasn't the rifle that concerned the Loxodont. If you observe closely, you can see when he spotted the 9mm pistol on the guides left hip, and as U.S. President Joe Biden advised at the time, he wisely backed off, not wanting to get a lung blown out.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher, Ensign, UFP Starfleet at July 27, 2022 08:04 PM (a3Q+t)

87 Not bad for some geometry.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 27, 2022 08:04 PM (diceA)

88 Wasn't on that rd in Sri Lanka. Was on one not much better coming down the mountains from the tea fields.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 27, 2022 08:05 PM (89T5c)

89 the world is 10,000 years old, there were no donosaurs

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:05 PM (usdNd)

90 Doesn't the Mackinac Bridge in Michigan employ "professional drivers" to help people cross the bridge who might have trouble with heights?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 08:03 PM (K5n5d)

A lot of big bridges have high sides so it is hard to see off of them. I never liked that, but for someone afraid of heights it might be a real boon.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:05 PM (eoQWY)

91 I see Joe Manchin decided to buckle like a cheap belt while I was working.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 27, 2022 08:05 PM (diceA)

92 People knew the Earth was round long before Eratosthenes

Imagine how much faster science would have progressed if the Moon were to visibly rotate instead of being tidally locked to us.

Posted by: t-bird at July 27, 2022 08:06 PM (Q14hI)

93 >>>He knows what's up.

We took our oldest (then 3 or so) to Hooters before the food turned to absolute crap, and he knew.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 27, 2022 08:06 PM (U3uv2)

94 I first saw that clip from Part I of Cosmos when I was nine. That was one of Those Moments that pushed me to look at astronomy a great deal more.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 27, 2022 08:06 PM (CdZ4i)

95 Doesn't the Mackinac Bridge in Michigan employ "professional drivers" to help people cross the bridge who might have trouble with heights?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I dont know about the drivers, don't remember any being around the times Ive crossed it. But there are a number of people in the pilings that fell in while the bridge was being built. There is a museum there that has their names.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 08:06 PM (MGB5H)

96 Do people realize that Pedo Joe stood up in the Rose Garden today and talked about...
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain

Well shit, that's tragic. covid succumbed to the retard.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at July 27, 2022 08:07 PM (JHRMW)

97 And that right there's the reason Eromero don't rockclimb, and neither does Mrs E anymore.

Posted by: Eromero at July 27, 2022 08:07 PM (0OP+5)

98 I see Joe Manchin decided to buckle like a cheap belt while I was working.
Posted by: Aet


I would think a cheap belt would not do that

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:07 PM (usdNd)

99 Give a man a .410 and there will always be food on the table.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:07 PM (6HZ10)

100 Why does the senile, corrupt, pervert so determined to compare himself to DJT?
Posted by: N.L. Urker

Because he is as self-absorbed and insecure as they come.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 27, 2022 08:07 PM (6WCwE)

101 What is the bridge that there are videos of wild swinging? Tacoma?

Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2022 08:08 PM (mn1Pi)

102 Every fall, the deer congregate in the apple 'orchard' and eat fermented apples off of the ground and get shitfaced. This is one of the best times to blast them.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 27, 2022 08:08 PM (0ocXn)

103 Why does the senile, corrupt, pervert so determined to compare himself to DJT?


the pushup contest is next

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:08 PM (oW0CQ)

104 We took our oldest (then 3 or so) to Hooters before the food turned to absolute crap, and he knew.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 27, 2022 08:06 PM (U3uv2)

I went to one (and only time) in 94 cause I lost the vote.

It was borderline mediocre then.

Posted by: Bete at July 27, 2022 08:08 PM (HVuiX)

105 Columbus also relied on a passage from the Catholic Bible, from one of the books known as the Apocrypha to Protestants, to calculate a shorter circumference for the Earth, and thus convinced Isabella that the distance from Spain to the Orient was shorter than thought. If only that pesky New World had not been in the way…

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:08 PM (atmen)

106 101 What is the bridge that there are videos of wild swinging? Tacoma?
Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2022 08:08 PM (mn1Pi)

Tacoma Narrows(?) Galloping Gurdy?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 27, 2022 08:09 PM (diceA)

107 101 What is the bridge that there are videos of wild swinging? Tacoma?
Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2022 08:08 PM (mn1Pi)

Yep, Tacoma Narrows.

Posted by: Robert at July 27, 2022 08:09 PM (f+EI1)

108 There's an extremely high bridge at Golden, BC, but when you're on it you have no idea how far you are from the valley floor.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 08:09 PM (eGTCV)

109 If a picture paints a thousand words, than why can't I paint you???

Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:09 PM (u+Y3T)

110 Did I mention that I killed all those with one shot?

Posted by: Ex-ex at July 27, 2022 08:09 PM (RU4sa)

111 Do you get mad when the lot lizards are out at the truck stop making money? This is what whores do.
Posted by: Kindltot

Lot lizards at least provide a useful service.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at July 27, 2022 08:10 PM (JHRMW)

112 Columbus also relied on a passage from the Catholic Bible, from one of the books known as the Apocrypha to Protestants, to calculate a shorter circumference for the Earth, and thus convinced Isabella that the distance from Spain to the Orient was shorter than thought. If only that pesky New World had not been in the way…
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:08 PM (atmen)

The Spanish might have had more trouble with the Chinese than the Amerindian natives, though it would have saved the trouble of digging up/stealing gold yourself rather than buying spices with your own gold.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:10 PM (eoQWY)

113 110 Did I mention that I killed all those with one shot?
Posted by: Ex-ex at July 27, 2022 08:09 PM (RU4sa)

Each, or do you have the Warren Comission's magic bullets?

Posted by: Bete at July 27, 2022 08:11 PM (HVuiX)

114 Ex-ex, I'll clean birds for you any day.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:11 PM (6HZ10)

115 Late to the party. Spent the day at legoland.

All of FJBs quirks- Delirium, constipation, hallucinations, dilated pupils, tremors, slurred speech- are all anticholinergic side effects of high doses of aricept for dementia. Probably being bolused stimulants before events and another cocktail to mitigate the side effects, including stool softeners.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 08:11 PM (eC4Tv)

116 Time for bed
Everyone have a great evening
And have a glass of scotch

Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2022 08:12 PM (k8B25)

117 So you buy a voter list

And for a $1.10 you get their vote by changing address:

Completing a change-of-address with the U.S. Postal Service does not update your voter registration.

Access your auto-filled voter registration form and savings for your new home at MYMOVE.com.

Posted by: Capn Ned (Raging Queen) at July 27, 2022 08:12 PM (ex2Cx)

118 Did I mention that I killed all those with one shot?
Posted by: Ex-ex at July 27, 2022 08:09 PM (RU4sa)

with an 81 mm mortar?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:12 PM (eoQWY)

119 What is the bridge that there are videos of wild swinging? Tacoma?


Tacoma Narrows. Failed due to resonance frequency. A great example of how we engineers only make news when something catastrophically fails. Like the Challenger. Or the Mars Rover.

Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:13 PM (u+Y3T)

120 So...a federal judge would not acquit Bannon on charges of contempt and the press went wild in jubilation...until he suggested he might just dismiss the charges altogother.

And then there was much gnashing of teeth and rendering of garments. You see, even District Judge Nichols has an inkling that he's gonna get rebuked up the chain sense this wasn't a legal subpoena - and he'd just a soon save himself the embarrassment.

But I think the pressure is too great and he'll commit career suicide in a vain hope that some appeals court won't hand him his head...look to see him agree to convict Bannon to get the loving media laughs and then get scolded by his appeals court parents sometime in the future that his judicial career days are done.

Posted by: Boswell at July 27, 2022 08:13 PM (+Cgut)

121 Probably being bolused stimulants before events and another cocktail to mitigate the side effects, including stool softeners.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 08:11 PM (eC4Tv)
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So when he shits his pants at public events, that's just the medications he's taking?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 08:13 PM (K5n5d)

122 Late to the party. Spent the day at legoland
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How was LEGOLand? Ive never been but I do love LEGO.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 08:13 PM (MGB5H)

123 113 110 Did I mention that I killed all those with one shot?
Posted by: Ex-ex at July 27, 2022 08:09 PM (RU4sa)

Each, or do you have the Warren Comission's magic bullets?
Posted by: Bete at July 27, 2022 08:11 PM (HVuiX)


Got down on one knee and shot with a 20 ga. The spread's what got them.

Posted by: Ex-ex at July 27, 2022 08:14 PM (RU4sa)

124 How was LEGOLand? Ive never been but I do love LEGO.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 08:13 PM (MGB5H)

For god sakes don't go barefoot

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:14 PM (eoQWY)

125 I've been on a very narrow road, on a large bus, in Greece that was similar to that Sri Lanka one. The Greek driver should have raced in F1 or something. Impressive driving on a road that was built for donkeys.

And on that note, off to bed. 0300 comes around quickly.

https://youtu.be/v4G_0A8Cdkw
mid 80s Lou Gramm. His solo album, Midnight Blue. It was pretty good. I have it on CD.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 27, 2022 08:14 PM (sAmhv)

126 Lot lizards at least provide a useful service.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings

Unlike those filthy Visitors who just want to eat us and steal our water.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 08:14 PM (ftFVW)

127 "Spent the day at legoland."

I bet the kids loved it. Ours did. It's the old Cypress Gardens site so a lots of the plants and gardens are still there too.

Posted by: Columbus at July 27, 2022 08:14 PM (sn5EN)

128 How was LEGOLand? Ive never been but I do love LEGO.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 08:13 PM (MGB5H)
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I was able to go to the one in Denmark a long, long time ago...It was pretty neat!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 08:15 PM (K5n5d)

129 Off explorer sock

Posted by: fd at July 27, 2022 08:15 PM (sn5EN)

130 'Nite Skip !

Posted by: JT at July 27, 2022 08:16 PM (T4tVD)

131 Did I mention that I killed all those with one shot?
Posted by: Ex-ex

Yes; but you didn't mention what you were shooting .

Posted by: JT at July 27, 2022 08:16 PM (T4tVD)

132 Tacoma Narrows. Failed due to resonance frequency. A great example of how we engineers only make news when something catastrophically fails. Like the Challenger. Or the Mars Rover.
Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:13 PM (u+Y3T)

The out of focus Hubble was a good one, if less spectacular. Had to make a corrective lens.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:16 PM (eoQWY)

133 I was able to go to the one in Denmark a long, long time ago...It was pretty neat!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I would imagine the one in the home of LEGO would be pretty awesome.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 08:16 PM (MGB5H)

134 I forgot, I'll try to find a bat for you, Duncanthrax.
Posted by: ace at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM


Ace, thank you, and thank you for all that you provide here!

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Posted by: JackStraw at July 27, 2022 07:58 PM


Thank you, JackStraw!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 27, 2022 08:17 PM (a3Q+t)

135 Damn it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 27, 2022 08:17 PM (m0zqP)

136 Ah, so thanks to the idiotic voters of WV (Trump + 1 million %, or something, right? so truly idiotic also re-electing this pathetic worm of a non-entity Manchin), the cretins in power get to do some real damage. Exciting!


Posted by: rhomboid at July 27, 2022 08:17 PM (OTzUX)

137 Imagine driving that Sri Lanka roadway during a rainstorm. I'd be screaming in my car the whole wayTBH.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 27, 2022 08:17 PM (NpAcC)

138 Mail in allows much fuckery!

59,143 in-person voters on November 3, 2020. You can watch the segment I did with Mr. Cross in the video above.

On November 3, 2020, the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections called a special meeting to discuss the election thus far. In this live-streamed meeting that is still available here, Fulton County’s interim Elections Chief Dwight Brower said that as of about 5pm, “about 14,152 people have cast a ballot” in Fulton Co. At the 16:42 mark, Dr. Kathleen Ruth asks Dwight Brower to confirm that number of 14,152.

Posted by: Capn Ned (Raging Queen) at July 27, 2022 08:17 PM (ex2Cx)

139 Imagine driving that Sri Lanka roadway during a rainstorm. I'd be screaming in my car the whole wayTBH.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 27, 2022 08:17 PM (NpAcC)

It probably only rains there 2 or three times a day. Its an island smack on the equator.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:18 PM (eoQWY)

140 107 101 What is the bridge that there are videos of wild swinging? Tacoma?
Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2022 08:08 PM (mn1Pi)

Yep, Tacoma Narrows.
Posted by: Robert at July 27, 2022 08:09 PM (f+EI1)

Galloping Gertie. It buckled like that whenever the wind kicked up. People still drove on it though. The wind (and water) through the Narrows always is pretty darn fast. The day it fell, the wind was just a little too fast.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 08:18 PM (BJKQV)

141 the world is 10,000 years old, there were no donosaurs

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:05 PM (usdNd)


Good heavens, I loved that movie. Smilodons, Mammoths, terror birds, neolithic slaves building a pyramid for possible alien masters . . .Hot chick is furs, a terrible mixture of fauna, all in glorious cheesy CGI

It also pisses off the archeologists.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:18 PM (xhaym)

142 Was only in Lisbon twice, back in the 90s, but it was great. I hear tell some of the nice sleepy charm was washed away by EU integration, though.

The street cars were slow-motion, so you could sort of walk up to them and step on anywhere.

Little neighborhood restaurants, with their own house wine from the fazenda in the countryside.

Funny Portuguese accent, though.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 27, 2022 08:19 PM (OTzUX)

143 Blackbird singin' in the dead of night. Take those broken wings and make a sammich.

Posted by: That guy who always sings... at July 27, 2022 08:19 PM (Xrfse)

144 Boswell, shades of Rudy Contreras?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:19 PM (6HZ10)

145 ...all your life, you were only waiting for the mayo to arrive.

Posted by: That guy who always sings... at July 27, 2022 08:20 PM (Xrfse)

146 Actually, from what I’ve read, the American Indians did have wheels, but only as childrens’ toys. They never extrapolated the principle of the wheel to wider use.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:20 PM (atmen)

147 What is the bridge that there are videos of wild swinging? Tacoma?

Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2022 08:08 PM (mn1Pi)

Tacoma Narrows.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 27, 2022 08:20 PM (U3uv2)

148 Good heavens, I loved that movie. Smilodons, Mammoths, terror birds, neolithic slaves building a pyramid for possible alien masters . . .Hot chick is furs, a terrible mixture of fauna, all in glorious cheesy CGI

It also pisses off the archeologists.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:18 PM (xhaym)

You can always satisfy them by saying it has a religious significance. That's what they always say when they have no idea what something is.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:21 PM (eoQWY)

149 It was borderline mediocre then.

Posted by: Bete at July 27, 2022 08:08 PM (HVuiX)

It was always borderline mediocre, and it did not take much cost cutting to put it over the edge. Such is the cycle of chain restaurants.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 27, 2022 08:22 PM (U3uv2)

150 Actually, from what I’ve read, the American Indians did have wheels, but only as childrens’ toys. They never extrapolated the principle of the wheel to wider use.
Posted by: B


that is not any better

it is sort of the same as having fire, but not knowing what to do with it

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:22 PM (oW0CQ)

151 Ace should have posted a giant slithering snake in honor of Joe Manchin.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 27, 2022 08:22 PM (NpAcC)

152 Smileodons would be grinning as they ate you.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:23 PM (atmen)

153 Good heavens, I loved that movie. Smilodons, Mammoths, terror birds, neolithic slaves building a pyramid for possible alien masters . . .Hot chick is furs, a terrible mixture of fauna, all in glorious cheesy CGI

It also pisses off the archeologists.



in fairness, it is not just the archaeologists

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:23 PM (oW0CQ)

154 Actually, from what I’ve read, the American Indians did have wheels, but only as childrens’ toys. They never extrapolated the principle of the wheel to wider use.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:20 PM (atmen)

The Americas don't have any native large draft animals, so that's mostly why. No horses, no cows, etc...

There were the bison but, as a wise man once said, bison are assho.

Posted by: Robert at July 27, 2022 08:23 PM (Gd4La)

155 Tacoma Narrows. Failed due to resonance frequency. A great example of how we engineers only make news when something catastrophically fails. Like the Challenger. Or the Mars Rover.
Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:13 PM


It's also a testimony to how far bridge engineering has come. In 1883, the year that the Brooklyn Bridge opened (then known as the East River Bridge, and for some years the tallest structure in NYC), 25% of the bridges opened that year failed, as in fell down.

I would argue that Challenger and the Mars Rover were more systematic (or engineering system) failures, than engineering per se failures.

As one of my mentors, Jerry Weinberg, said "No matter whether it's a technical problem or a people problem, it's always a people problem."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 27, 2022 08:23 PM (a3Q+t)

156 that is not any better

it is sort of the same as having fire, but not knowing what to do with it
Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:22 PM (oW0CQ)

It is unclear if fire was first used to warm people, cook food, or set big ass fires that might kill something to take home.

It may also have had a religious significance.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:23 PM (eoQWY)

157 I knocked down two quail with my .22 semi-auto one day when I was a kid. Jumped a good sized covey and rattled off about ten rounds from the hip.

Posted by: Javems at July 27, 2022 08:24 PM (AmoqO)

158 Well you can sure tell the 1%'ers in Lisbon with their window A/C's.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:24 PM (6HZ10)

159 Legoland is brutal in the Orlando heat and humidity. Lots of stuff to do for all ages. Not alot of upsells. Even has a separate Peppa Pig resort.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 08:24 PM (eC4Tv)

160 >> Difference is 4 minutes.

>> The sidereal day is a little bit shorter than the solar day that we use for our normal experiences.

The sidereal day is the actual rotational period of the earth inertially.

The length of the true solar day actual varies a little bit over the course of the year due to the elliptical orbit and the changes in orbital speed. Another effect is the tilt of the axis.

Thus the solar day is actually the mean, over average of that. It varies from about 24 hrs and 30 seconds, to 24 hrs minus 18 secs. There are four nodes and four extrema per tropical year.

While that difference is small each day, it does add up, and the cumulative effect is such that the true sun can be ahead or behind the mean sun by 15 minutes. See the Equation of Time for the precise curve.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 27, 2022 08:24 PM (Mzdiz)

161 Columbus was a pimp...he could never out navigate Magellan.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2022 08:24 PM (R/m4+)

162 man, that Mitch really outsmarted those dims

3 cheers for the Turtle

Posted by: REDACTED at July 27, 2022 08:24 PM (us2H3)

163 Ace should have posted a giant slithering snake in honor of Joe Manchin.
Posted by: redridinghood

How about a giant python eating Joe Manchin?

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 08:24 PM (ftFVW)

164 The park is an hour from Orlando, though. Was not prepared for that drive.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 08:25 PM (eC4Tv)

165 hooters was always a stupid restaurant, who wants to go to a restaurant where sort of attractive girls are wearing sort of revealing outfits serving sort of something food?

who wants second rate food with second rate girls?

dine at a good restaurant then go to the titty bar.

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:25 PM (oW0CQ)

166 The Americas don't have any native large draft animals, so that's mostly why. No horses, no cows, etc...

There were the bison but, as a wise man once said, bison are assho.
Posted by: Robert at July 27, 2022 08:23 PM (Gd4La)

That's cause the indians killed them, what with their perfect balance with nature and all.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:26 PM (eoQWY)

167 132 Tacoma Narrows. Failed due to resonance frequency. A great example of how we engineers only make news when something catastrophically fails.
Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:13 PM (u+Y3T)

Resonance and putting up a soild bridge where winds regularly whip through at >30mph. But mostly the winds.

The darn thing "galloped" as soon as the bridge deck was built. Not just an error in engineering, but in government. The bridve never should have been completed once its weakness was known.

I have a piece of rebar from old Gertie in my garage. I wiggled it out of a broken concrete column on a field trip. It's twisted like a pretzel.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 08:26 PM (BJKQV)

168 Rather niece of my wife has turned into a left-wing progression Christian. I think the move that way started with a daughter who is lesbian or transsexual.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 08:26 PM (eGTCV)

169 It is unclear if fire was first used to warm people, cook food, or set big ass fires that might kill something to take home.

It may also have had a religious significance.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:23 PM (eoQWY)
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Prometheus could tell us, but he's a little tied up at the moment, having his liver pecked out by an eagle...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 08:26 PM (K5n5d)

170 How about a giant python eating Joe Manchin?
Posted by: She Hobbit

Thats a big joe manchin.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 08:26 PM (MGB5H)

171 It was the covid talking. Joe faced his mortality, and realized he needed to make his mark while there was still time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 08:26 PM (eC4Tv)

172 How about a giant python eating Joe Manchin?
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 08:24 PM (ftFVW)
*******
Even better!

Posted by: redridinghood at July 27, 2022 08:26 PM (NpAcC)

173 who wants second rate food with second rate girls?

dine at a good restaurant then go to the titty bar.

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:25 PM (oW0CQ)

You are supposed to be able to talk your wife into going to Hooters. Or letting you go.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:26 PM (eoQWY)

174 >>Columbus was a pimp...he could never out navigate Magellan.

Giovanni de Verrazzano.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 27, 2022 08:27 PM (ZLI7S)

175 It is unclear if fire was first used to warm people, cook food, or set big ass fires that might kill something to take home.

It may also have had a religious significance.


in fairness, whatever it was nobody just gave it to the kids to play with.

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:27 PM (oW0CQ)

176 Ben Had,

Today is National Scotch Day!

*pours Balvenie 12 Doublewood into USB port*

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 27, 2022 08:27 PM (PiwSw)

177
I see Joe Manchin decided to buckle like a cheap belt while I was working.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop


He wants you to work harder.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2022 08:27 PM (63Dwl)

178 in fairness, it is not just the archaeologists
Posted by: confederatefifth

What?! It contained the greatest love story ever told.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 08:27 PM (ftFVW)

179 157 Funny thing about taking out crows with a .22. Most birds take off when they hear a shot. Crows, and above mentioned red wing blackbirds seem to continue to feed and you can get one or two more before take off.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM (lz5hY)

180 Having otters go up your butt is a classic, but by no means the only, definition of otter butt rape.

Posted by: Splunge at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM (cm/80)

181 Our Study: Critical Race Theories Have “Established a Beachhead at the Military Service Academies”

https://tinyurl.com/mpe5tv2w

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM (RU4sa)

182 I would argue that Challenger and the Mars Rover were more systematic (or engineering system) failures, than engineering per se failures.


Mars Rover was a simple calculation failure. One of the first things I learned was to make sure the units were correct. Someone forgot that. Maybe it was systematic in the fact that no one checked the work. Challenger was more systematic, really more a management failure, but engineers still took the blame. Which anyone entering the field is/should be taught in Eng 101, but they usually learn it after they get the 95% useless paper and get a real job.

Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM (u+Y3T)

183 106 101 What is the bridge that there are videos of wild swinging? Tacoma?

Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2022 08:08 PM (mn1Pi)

Tacoma Narrows(?) Galloping Gurdy?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 27, 2022 08:09 PM (diceA)


Galloping Gertie. A Cocker Spaniel, named Tubby, was lost in the collapse, because his owner abandoned him when he lost control of the car in the final wind crisis. The replacement bridge, known as Sturdy Gertie, is still in place, along with an even stronger bridge built to handle traffic moving in the opposite direction.

Posted by: HTL at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM (meAg6)

184 dine at a good restaurant then go to the titty bar.
Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:25 PM


A strategy I'll be forever appreciative of.

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama, Esq. at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM (a3Q+t)

185 in fairness, whatever it was nobody just gave it to the kids to play with.
Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:27 PM (oW0CQ)

Nobody gives the kids the real fun stuff.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM (eoQWY)

186 in fairness, it is not just the archaeologists

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:23 PM (oW0CQ)


Who doesn't love watered down Madam Blavatsky confabulation.

I mean, Atlantis, and the diaspora of all knowledge to everywhere but Greece, Persia and Rome!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:29 PM (xhaym)

187 You are supposed to be able to talk your wife into going to Hooters. Or letting you go.


yeesh, rather just stay home

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:29 PM (oW0CQ)

188 Oldcat, ouch. The tribes never killed more than their needs. Buffalo hunters killed them, skinned them and left all that meat to rot.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:29 PM (6HZ10)

189 Ouroboros, with manchin clutching the tail, but being eaten from the feet up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 27, 2022 08:29 PM (diceA)

190 Is soiling yourself considered panicking?

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at July 27, 2022 08:30 PM (8xlOh)

191
That is the meaning of "mean" in mean time terminology, like the old Greenwich Mean Time. That means a solar day defined by the mean sun there.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 27, 2022 08:30 PM (Mzdiz)

192 Funny thing about taking out crows with a .22. Most birds take off when they hear a shot. Crows, and above mentioned red wing blackbirds seem to continue to feed and you can get one or two more before take off.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM (lz5hY)

"just how many flintlock muskets does this dude even HAVE"

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:30 PM (eoQWY)

193 There was an old wooden bridge near our place in WV. Rickety beyond belief. It crossed a small tributary into the Ohio River. IIRC a school bus was crossing years ago and ditched, killing a couple kids. It's now been rebuilt. Or more accurately was rebuilt some time ago to alleviate this sort of thing. I believe it took about 3 months.

When things mater, things get done.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 27, 2022 08:30 PM (BFigT)

194 SMH


is your better half hanging here?

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:30 PM (oW0CQ)

195 Skwerls don't have many brain cells. Methinks they must be a cheap drunk.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at July 27, 2022 08:30 PM (3Or4S)

196 28 Stories about Columbus aside, from Eratosthenes on, pretty much every educated person knew the Earth was round.

Columbus actually did some pretty shitty math, arguing that the world was a lot smaller than it actually is.

If there hadn't been another continent in the way, he'd never have been heard from again.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 27, 2022 07:47 PM (bW8dp)
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And everyone would have said he fell off the edge of the Earth as predicted.

Posted by: Ciampino - smart animals prefer to scare you rather than fight at July 27, 2022 08:30 PM (qfLjt)

197 Mars Rover was a simple calculation failure. One of the first things I learned was to make sure the units were correct. Someone forgot that. Maybe it was systematic in the fact that no one checked the work. Challenger was more systematic, really more a management failure, but engineers still took the blame. Which anyone entering the field is/should be taught in Eng 101, but they usually learn it after they get the 95% useless paper and get a real job.
Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM (u+Y3T)
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The Challenger situation is often used in technical writing classes as an example What Not To Do as a technical communicator. In addition to the engineering problems, there were major communication snafus that prevented The Powers That Be at the time from making the right calls.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 08:30 PM (K5n5d)

198 yeesh, rather just stay home

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:29 PM (oW0CQ)

You sound fun.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 27, 2022 08:30 PM (U3uv2)

199 Oldcat, ouch. The tribes never killed more than their needs. Buffalo hunters killed them, skinned them and left all that meat to rot.

this is myth

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:31 PM (oW0CQ)

200 The replacement bridge, known as Sturdy Gertie, is still in place, along with an even stronger bridge built to handle traffic moving in the opposite direction.
Posted by: HTL at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM (meAg6)

A stronger bridge that looks totally different than the one beside it. Because WA is dum.

P. S. It looks so stupid

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 08:31 PM (BJKQV)

201 is your better half hanging here?
Posted by: confederatefifth
___

Yeah, talking eating birds.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 27, 2022 08:31 PM (RU4sa)

202 Skwerls don't have many brain cells. Methinks they must be a cheap drunk.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at July 27, 2022 08:30 PM (3Or4S)
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Hey, now! We only drink the top-shelf Val-U-Rite!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 08:31 PM (K5n5d)

203 Sure, the Indians didn’t have traditional beasts of burden like oxen or horses. But they still had women.

*runs, hides*

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:32 PM (atmen)

204 You sound fun.
Posted by: Comrade flounder


standards are not always convenient

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:32 PM (oW0CQ)

205 I mean, Atlantis, and the diaspora of all knowledge to everywhere but Greece, Persia and Rome!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:29 PM (xhaym)

The poet, the physician, The farmer, the scientist,
The magician and the other so-called Gods of our legends.
Though Gods they were
And as the elders of our time choose to remain blind
Let us rejoice
And let us sing
And dance and ring in the new Hail Atlantis!
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be,
Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be...

Posted by: Donovan at July 27, 2022 08:32 PM (R/m4+)

206 Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM (RU4sa)

And because of it, military recruitment is way down and retention's going to hell. Most of the new employees where I work now are ex-military and trend libertarian. They're bailing because woke ideology is becoming more important than warfighting.

China's already winning WWIII, and the first shot hasn't been fired yet.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 27, 2022 08:32 PM (Unq4t)

207 Oldcat, ouch. The tribes never killed more than their needs. Buffalo hunters killed them, skinned them and left all that meat to rot.

this is myth
Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:31 PM (oW0CQ)

Indians would scare whole heards of buffalo off of cliffs to kill them.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 08:32 PM (BJKQV)

208 188 Oldcat, ouch. The tribes never killed more than their needs. Buffalo hunters killed them, skinned them and left all that meat to rot.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:29 PM (6HZ10)

Indian hunting method was to chase the herd off a cliff. Lot more rot that way.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 27, 2022 08:32 PM (b2nrj)

209 You can always satisfy them by saying it has a religious significance. That's what they always say when they have no idea what something is.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:21 PM (eoQWY)


One of the archeologists reviewing the site of Cahokia recently reported that the "town commons" area that was thought to be a meeting and ceremonial ground now appears to have been mostly underwater as a year round wetland.
She actually came out and said that water was important to the culture, and that it might have had religious significance.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:32 PM (xhaym)

210
Yeah, talking eating birds.
Posted by: SMH



you need to give him a dayglo vest that says SMH's something or other

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:33 PM (oW0CQ)

211 Shadout Mapes, Bless you. Holding glass in both hands awaiting arrival.

Even better, I gathered you have tried it!

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:33 PM (6HZ10)

212 Indians would scare whole heards of buffalo off of cliffs to kill them.
Posted by: 29Victor


THIS, is not a myth and they were savages

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:33 PM (oW0CQ)

213 Oldcat, ouch. The tribes never killed more than their needs. Buffalo hunters killed them, skinned them and left all that meat to rot.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:29 PM (6HZ10)

I am speaking of all the other large animals in the Americas, wiped out at the end of the last ice age by "climate change" as in a storm of spears and burn traps by hunters migrating in from the land bridge from Asia. Elephants, Camels, Sloths, all sorts of things wiped out.

Buffalo survived longer because without horses, the Amerinds couldn't make a go on the real Great Plains. When they got horses, they started on the Buffalo and likely would have gotten them if they'd had more than a few hundred years to work on it.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:33 PM (eoQWY)

214 Nobody gives the kids the real fun stuff.
Posted by: Oldcat

What? you never played with mercury balls when you were a kid?

Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2022 08:34 PM (mn1Pi)

215 I'm going to start applying for jobs tomorrow.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 08:34 PM (eGTCV)

216 211 Shadout Mapes, Bless you. Holding glass in both hands awaiting arrival.

Even better, I gathered you have tried it!
Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:33 PM (6HZ10)

Based on your suggestion. Thank you!!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 27, 2022 08:34 PM (PiwSw)

217 Can someone ask Joe Manchin who pays corporate income taxes? Because it isn't the corporations.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 08:34 PM (eC4Tv)

218 Mars Rover was a simple calculation failure. One of the first things I learned was to make sure the units were correct. Someone forgot that. Maybe it was systematic in the fact that no one checked the work. Challenger was more systematic, really more a management failure, but engineers still took the blame. Which anyone entering the field is/should be taught in Eng 101, but they usually learn it after they get the 95% useless paper and get a real job.
Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM


Mars Rover was the result of one team using metric units, and the other using English. Both assumed the other was using their units. There are a number of (paid-for) lessons therein. The engineers should have checked. There should have been sufficient integration and system testing to discover it. The ultimate lesson is probably the first one I had drummed into me by my manager in my first real job outside of school while I was going.

**Every** time I said "assume" or "I assumed" he would interrupt with "Assume makes an ass our of you and me."

And he was right.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 27, 2022 08:34 PM (a3Q+t)

219 Sure, the Indians didn’t have traditional beasts of burden like oxen or horses. But they still had women.

*runs, hides*
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:32 PM (atmen)

Might actually be a valid point.

I don't mean using women exactly, but slaves? It could have been doable.

Posted by: Robert at July 27, 2022 08:35 PM (XZ6X/)

220
What do you call inhabitants of Lisbon? Lisbonans?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 27, 2022 08:35 PM (1Nxff)

221 In addition to the engineering problems, there were major communication snafus that prevented The Powers That Be at the time from making the right calls.


I think much of that persists. Junior engineers are usually discouraged from speaking up. The culture in government (aka the Shuttle) is usually worse. It's like the pilots before CRM became a thing - the Captain was boss and the FO and FE were often too timid to speak up.

Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:36 PM (u+Y3T)

222
Might actually be a valid point.

I don't mean using women exactly, but slaves? It could have been doable.
Posted by: Robert at July 27, 2022 08:35 PM (XZ6X/)

They did have slavery.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 27, 2022 08:36 PM (b2nrj)

223 The buffalo hunters did waste the meat. It was a planned thing, designed to starve the Indians onto reservations. Sort of like the folks in charge are doing now.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at July 27, 2022 08:36 PM (5HBd1)

224 She actually came out and said that water was important to the culture, and that it might have had religious significance.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:32 PM (xhaym)

My theories are as malleable as gold sheet, watch me pound them into a new shape and claim nothing has changed.

I'd known that joke for decades, and it was a regular rib on Time Team by Tony the announcer, but it is more or less true. Sure, lots of things are religious, but they do use it all the time to cover up lack of information.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:37 PM (eoQWY)

225 220 Lisbos

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:37 PM (atmen)

226 47 No way on Sri Lanka road. I hate driving I70 over the rockies in the winter.

Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2022 07:53 PM (mn1Pi)
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You'd love crossing the Apennines (Italy) going East-West and back then. I did it by bus and the driver went like there was no tomorrow.

Posted by: Ciampino - who cares, tomorrow we die - yep like that at July 27, 2022 08:37 PM (qfLjt)

227 It's Lisboners believe it or not.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 27, 2022 08:38 PM (oWBc3)

228 Failed due to resonance frequency.

Must have been a pole in the right half plane.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 27, 2022 08:38 PM (ufFY8)

229 227 It's Lisboners believe it or not.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 27, 2022 08:38 PM (oWBc3)

Lis boners? Lez boners?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 27, 2022 08:38 PM (b2nrj)

230 Sure, lots of things are religious, but they do use it all the time to cover up lack of information.
Posted by: Oldcat

If i remember right that was kind of a running gag on third rick form the sun. Dr Albright was an anthropologist and was always claiming something had religious significance.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 08:39 PM (MGB5H)

231 A stronger bridge that looks totally different than the one beside it. Because WA is dum.

P. S. It looks so stupid

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 08:31 PM (BJKQV)


It does look stupid. I drive it every week and it just annoys me. The new bridge is probably stronger, and is wider, but the old bridge works and I would have just built to match that. Or, for an extra billion or so, I guess they could have built bridge #2 and then just rebuilt bridge #1 to match.

Posted by: HTL at July 27, 2022 08:39 PM (meAg6)

232 **Every** time I said "assume" or "I assumed" he would interrupt with "Assume makes an ass our of you and me."

Yep. I made a couple of assumptions in the course of my career that both made an ass out of me and bit me in mine, at the same time. Fortunately, they were early on and I learned a valuable lesson.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 27, 2022 08:39 PM (Xrfse)

233 Hadrian maybe I should know but I don't. Sometimes the name for residents of a city or place does not follow directly from the place name, as in Rio de Janeiro, whose inhabitants are known as "cariocas".

Posted by: rhomboid at July 27, 2022 08:39 PM (OTzUX)

234 It's Lisboners believe it or not.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 27, 2022 08:38 PM (oWBc3)

BOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOINNNGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: A Lisboner at July 27, 2022 08:39 PM (q8QJ9)

235 Boswell, shades of Rudy Contreras?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:19 PM (6HZ10)

Rudy is indeed done. He crossed and embarrassed Justice Roberts on the FISA. But that's different than ruling in accordance with the jadrools' caterwauling over at WAPO to convict Bannon on a completely illegal procedural subpoena to get some laughs and pat on the backs at the bar. Appeals court jurist actually like to think they'll get nominated for the supreme court someday (Kenji Kunte Jackson Brown aside) and think that behaving like a legal moron isn't gonna help.

Posted by: Boswell at July 27, 2022 08:39 PM (+Cgut)

236 220 Or ask Sarah about:

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:40 PM (atmen)

237 OK, I'll play. How many cliffs are there on the plains and how long are you going to chase that herd to find one?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:40 PM (6HZ10)

238 Might actually be a valid point.

I don't mean using women exactly, but slaves? It could have been doable.
Posted by: Robert at July 27, 2022 08:35 PM (XZ6X/)

The less organized tribes didn't have slavery, as they could'nt watch over them. So they either adopted you if you were young enough or a woman, or tortured you to death for fun. Singing defiant songs was big points to you while they did it.

More organized tribes did eventually have slaves - black slaves at least. I don't know if they had them before Columbus.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:40 PM (eoQWY)

239 Sarah Hoyt, I meant. Dammit.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:40 PM (atmen)

240 Oldcat, ouch. The tribes never killed more than their needs. Buffalo hunters killed them, skinned them and left all that meat to rot.
Posted by: Ben Had


Allow me to introduce you to Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump in Alberta.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 27, 2022 08:41 PM (IEa8U)

241 I think I'll take my first resume to a liquor store.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 08:41 PM (eGTCV)

242 What? you never played with mercury balls when you were a kid?
Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2022 08:34 PM (mn1Pi)

We had to break our own thermometers for that.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:41 PM (eoQWY)

243
What? you never played with mercury balls when you were a kid?
Posted by: Infidel


My dentist gave me a plastic bottle of waste mercury when I was a kid (60 years ago). Can't imagine anyone doing that today.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2022 08:41 PM (63Dwl)

244 If i remember right that was kind of a running gag on third rick form the sun. Dr Albright was an anthropologist and was always claiming something had religious significance.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 08:39 PM (MGB5H)
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The relationship between Mary and Dick was part of why that show worked so well. Mary's a shitty anthropologist at a shitty university. Dick is an alien anthropologist pretending to be a physicist (but he's a shitty professor). Great fun all around.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 08:42 PM (K5n5d)

245 In addition to the engineering problems, there were major communication snafus that prevented The Powers That Be at the time from making the right calls.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 08:30 PM


And foundational to that was a culture of fear where no one wanted to be the one to tell TPTB that launching was a bad idea.

I remember walking by a TV very early in the morning, and seeing a close-up of icicles on the launch vehicle, and thinking "well, that's going to scrub it". Later, I found it hard to believe they were launching, but I was cheering, in large part because I knew Ellison Onizuka.

We all know what happened next.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 27, 2022 08:43 PM (a3Q+t)

246 Allow me to introduce you to Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump in Alberta.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 27, 2022 08:41 PM (IEa8U)

Free Buffalo Guy!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2022 08:43 PM (R/m4+)

247 Good luck, NL Urker! Hope you find a good solid job soon.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at July 27, 2022 08:43 PM (5HBd1)

248 221 In addition to the engineering problems, there were major communication snafus that prevented The Powers That Be at the time from making the right calls.


I think much of that persists. Junior engineers are usually discouraged from speaking up. The culture in government (aka the Shuttle) is usually worse. It's like the pilots before CRM became a thing - the Captain was boss and the FO and FE were often too timid to speak up.
Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:36 PM (u+Y3T)

Nothing has changed. About 20 years ago the same Tacoma and the same WA State replaced the Hwy 16 overpass over Nalley Valley. They had two teams building it. One building from the east side of the valley and the other from the west. It was already halfway build before someone standing on the partially-constructed overpass noticed that one team was building three lanes and the other was only building two.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 08:43 PM (BJKQV)

249 OK, I'll play. How many cliffs are there on the plains and how long are you going to chase that herd to find one?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:40 PM (6HZ10)

Pretty much every river and creek bank has a bluff big enough to break a leg for a buffalo if driven off it, and kill it when more fell on top. If it doesn't its probably swampy, which will trap large animals just as well.

The creek behind my house growing up certainly did, where it was cutting through the soil.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:43 PM (eoQWY)

250 I think I'll take my first resume to a liquor store.
Posted by: N.L. Urker

I've often thought that it would be nice to work in a liquor store in my area. The staff at the ones I go to always seem so chill. Prolly not in the big city, though.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 08:44 PM (ftFVW)

251 As someone on this very board pointed out yesterday, nobody ever got pregnant from gay sex.

Gay Sex is Safe Sex!
Gay Sex is Protected Sex!

Posted by: The CDC at July 27, 2022 08:44 PM (6THwK)

252 It was already halfway build before someone standing on the partially-constructed overpass noticed that one team was building three lanes and the other was only building two.
Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 08:43 PM (BJKQV)
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Ladies and gentlemen! Your highway tax dollars at work!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 08:45 PM (K5n5d)

253 " I sure would like me some buffalo tongue right now".
" Beans is safer, I like my scalp".

Two old cavalrymen in "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon" viewing a buffalo herd.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 27, 2022 08:45 PM (lz5hY)

254 Good luck, NL Urker! Hope you find a good solid job soon.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at July 27, 2022 08:43 PM

Thank you

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 08:45 PM (eGTCV)

255 My dentist gave me a plastic bottle of waste mercury when I was a kid (60 years ago). Can't imagine anyone doing that today.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Did the local firemen give you asbestos to throw in the air like confetti?

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 08:45 PM (ftFVW)

256 It was already halfway build before someone standing on the partially-constructed overpass noticed that one team was building three lanes and the other was only building two.


Drive to the merge point, dammit!!!

Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:46 PM (u+Y3T)

257
Mike Lindell is selling coffee now, I just saw. My Coffee, the richest, most flavorful coffee you'll ever taste! Certified organic and non-GMO. My Cofffee.

You can spill My Coffee on My Pillow and clean it up with My Towel.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 27, 2022 08:46 PM (Mzdiz)

258 Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump sounds like a dance craze.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2022 08:46 PM (63Dwl)

259 >>>OK, I'll play. How many cliffs are there on the plains and how long are you going to chase that herd to find one?

>Shit, man, there were cliffs on every rez. Get with the program, 'cause killin' bison is like riding high speed rails.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 27, 2022 08:46 PM (0ocXn)

260 I am so looking forward to the Mississippi-California Canal.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:46 PM (atmen)

261 August polls
Send me home
To the place
I belong

West Virginia
I'm a wussbag
Send me home

Posted by: Joe Manchin at July 27, 2022 08:47 PM (cm/80)

262 weft cut. Alberta ain't N Dakota, S Dakota, or Oklahoma. Did what you say happen yes but on the whole it didn't.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:47 PM (6HZ10)

263 What? you never played with mercury balls when you were a kid?
Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2022 08:34 PM (mn1Pi)
We had to break our own thermometers for that.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:41 PM (eoQWY)

As a ute, my older brother asked the Old Man why didn't they put a big ball of mercury in ships and roll them back and forth to propel the ship along as he played with some in the garage.

The Old Man told him that was the stupidest thing he ever heard and to try and not be a dumb ass.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2022 08:47 PM (R/m4+)

264 Oldcat, ouch. The tribes never killed more than their needs. Buffalo hunters killed them, skinned them and left all that meat to rot.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:29 PM (6HZ10)


This is not historically or archeologically correct.

However, I think you are talking about the megafauna die-off during the lower Dryas glaciation. (archeologist have massive cognative dissonance in that the Paleo and Pre-Columbian Indians were good and decent
Personally I would love to have wild horses native to the Americas, because that would mean the survival of some of the Litopterns, Gomphotheres and the Giant Sloths

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:47 PM (xhaym)

265 The new bridge is probably stronger, and is wider, but the old bridge works and I would have just built to match that.
Posted by: HTL at July 27, 2022 08:39 PM (meAg6)

I've heard that the new bridge is supposed to look like Gertie, as a tribute or something. I don't know if that's accurate but it sounds dumb enough to be true.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 08:47 PM (BJKQV)

266 Plenty of gullies in OK and both SD and ND have badlands.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at July 27, 2022 08:48 PM (5HBd1)

267 " I sure would like me some buffalo tongue right now".


Buffalo gals go round the outside, round the outside, round the outside...

Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:49 PM (u+Y3T)

268 Engineer: This O-ring should be good enough to keep the shuttle from exploding on launch. Just don't fire the rocket below 32 degrees and you should be fine.

Management: below 32? So 32 is fine? Its probably fine. No need to ask.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 08:49 PM (eC4Tv)

269 229 227 It's Lisboners believe it or not.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 27, 2022 08:38 PM (oWBc3)

Lis boners? Lez boners?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 27, 2022 08:38 PM (b2nrj)


Liz boners. Is that so hard to understand? It's a bit of family history best forgotten.

Posted by: Liz Cheney at July 27, 2022 08:49 PM (cm/80)

270 Values between 500 and about 600 feet have been suggested, putting Eratosthenes' calculated circumference between about 24,000 miles and about 29,000 miles. The Earth is now known to measure about 24,900 miles around the equator, slightly less around the poles.

*

Dumbass honkey miscalculating motherf*cker.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at July 27, 2022 08:50 PM (e0y0z)

271 And yet the Paleo-indians also massacred all the giant animals because they are cruel humans who cannot live with the Earf.


I think it was a die off due to a series of meteorite hits massively affecting the local climates and kicking off a second glaciation

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:50 PM (xhaym)

272 Oldcat, ouch. The tribes never killed more than their needs. Buffalo hunters killed them, skinned them and left all that meat to rot.
Posted by: Ben Had

Also, from an ecologic standpoint that could be perfectly true and still the burden of the efficient hunting and quick breeding of men could put a continuous stress on large animals. If the population goes down, you learn better techniques. And instead of dying down when the prey drops like animals might, you start growing crops, harvesting berries and hunt as well, keeping the pressure on.

Even our modern ecologists make horrid miscalculations introducing new plants/animals. I don't expect someone trying to survive without knowledge to do better.

What saved some large animals was domestication, at least in Eurasia.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:50 PM (eoQWY)

273 179 157 Funny thing about taking out crows with a .22. Most birds take off when they hear a shot. Crows, and above mentioned red wing blackbirds seem to continue to feed and you can get one or two more before take off.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 27, 2022 08:28 PM (lz5hY)

Legend had it that crows could tell whether you had a shotgun or a rifle and would keep just out of range.

Posted by: Javems at July 27, 2022 08:50 PM (AmoqO)

274 255 Used to keep a small bottle of mercury in the shop. Got it from my buddy who worked in the lab at the steel mill. Use it for deleading firearms barrel. Cap one end, a few drops of mercury, cap other end and let it go up and down inside the barrel. Really attracts and removes lead.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 27, 2022 08:50 PM (lz5hY)

275 Alberta ain't N Dakota, S Dakota, or Oklahoma. Did what you say happen yes but on the whole it didn't.
Posted by: Ben Had

Shit we got turner falls and the arbuckle and the whichitas and the ouachita and the glass and kiamchi. Lots of things to runs animals off of.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 08:50 PM (MGB5H)

276 Isn't Buffalo Tongue a brand of bourbon?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 08:50 PM (eGTCV)

277 Buffalo gals go round the outside, round the outside, round the outside...
Posted by: Mookie

Trailer park girls won't you come out tonight.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 08:50 PM (ftFVW)

278 Somebody mentioned the movie “She Wore a Yellow Ribbon.”

Joanne Dru. Hubba hubba:

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:50 PM (atmen)

279 Ca is going to put up a giant tarp over KS, NE, IA and MO to capture the rainfall and funnel it to CA.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 08:51 PM (eC4Tv)

280 Gibson's Bakery is pretty much boned.

https://tinyurl.com/mryt9kfp

Looks like Oberlin is still doing everything they can to destroy them.

Posted by: A Lisboner at July 27, 2022 08:51 PM (q8QJ9)

281 What? you never played with mercury balls when you were a kid?
Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2022 08:34 PM (mn1Pi)

I played with Jupiter's. Close enough?

Posted by: Ganymede at July 27, 2022 08:51 PM (BJKQV)

282 Oldcat, A buffalo can jump off a thirty foot cliff and never miss a stride. The other 500 in the herd will just keep right on runnin.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:51 PM (6HZ10)

283 You can't roller skate in a buffalo herd.

Posted by: Roger Miller at July 27, 2022 08:52 PM (63Dwl)

284 Management: below 32? So 32 is fine? Its probably fine. No need to ask.


Also Management: Damn engineers always add too many factors of safety. I'm sure it's good down to 20.

Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 08:52 PM (u+Y3T)

285 Management: below 32? So 32 is fine? Its probably fine. No need to ask.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 08:49 PM


I thought you were a Doctor, not an Engineer.

How do you know Engineering Management so well, Bones?

Posted by: James T. Kirk, Captain, UFP at July 27, 2022 08:53 PM (a3Q+t)

286
this is myth
Posted by: confederatefifth at July 27, 2022 08:31 PM (oW0CQ)


I mean, there was a drive in the 1880s to kill the buffalo herds to deprive the plains Indians of their food and force them onto the reservations. On the other hand, the reason for that were all the settlers being killed.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:53 PM (xhaym)

287 And yet the Paleo-indians also massacred all the giant animals because they are cruel humans who cannot live with the Earf.


I think it was a die off due to a series of meteorite hits massively affecting the local climates and kicking off a second glaciation
Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:50 PM (xhaym)

Didn't kill the naked Amerindians tho.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:53 PM (eoQWY)

288
Management: below 32? So 32 is fine? Its probably fine. No need to ask.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
-------

Allow me a demonstration that even Congressmen can understand...

Posted by: Richard Feynman at July 27, 2022 08:54 PM (4E7Sa)

289 Ca is going to put up a giant tarp over KS, NE, IA and MO to capture the rainfall and funnel it to CA.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 08:51 PM (eC4Tv)

Dude...stop giving them ideas.

Posted by: Robert at July 27, 2022 08:55 PM (q8QJ9)

290 251 As someone on this very board pointed out yesterday, nobody ever got pregnant from gay sex.

Gay Sex is Safe Sex!
Gay Sex is Protected Sex!

Posted by: The CDC at July 27, 2022 08:44 PM (6THwK)

What about a trans-woman with a trans-man?

Posted by: Javems at July 27, 2022 08:55 PM (AmoqO)

291 And yet the Paleo-indians also massacred all the giant animals because they are cruel humans who cannot live with the Earf.


I think it was a die off due to a series of meteorite hits massively affecting the local climates and kicking off a second glaciation
Posted by: Kindltot

But what about the Adkins-indians?

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 08:55 PM (MGB5H)

292 215 I'm going to start applying for jobs tomorrow.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 08:34 PM (eGTCV)

Good luck!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 27, 2022 08:55 PM (gbzeC)

293 You can't roller skate in a buffalo herd.
Posted by: Roger Miller at July 27, 2022 08:52 PM


You can if you have a brand new key.

Posted by: Melanie at July 27, 2022 08:55 PM (a3Q+t)

294 I'd known that joke for decades, and it was a regular rib on Time Team by Tony the announcer, but it is more or less true. Sure, lots of things are religious, but they do use it all the time to cover up lack of information.
---------------------------
Ritual!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 27, 2022 08:55 PM (yikp0)

295 Buffalo Trace is a good bourbon named after the old trails in the east they travelled. And not to pile on, but Buffalo like white men, can't jump.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 27, 2022 08:55 PM (oWBc3)

296 Oldcat, A buffalo can jump off a thirty foot cliff and never miss a stride. The other 500 in the herd will just keep right on runnin.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:51 PM (6HZ10)

a 1500 pound buffalo would leave a damn crater off a 30 foot cliff. Not to mention 4 broken legs

And they have actually found ancient hunting drive kill sites and excavated them, so something killed a mess of buffalo.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:56 PM (eoQWY)

297 287 And yet the Paleo-indians also massacred all the giant animals because they are cruel humans who cannot live with the Earf.


I think it was a die off due to a series of meteorite hits massively affecting the local climates and kicking off a second glaciation
Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:50 PM (xhaym)

Didn't kill the naked Amerindians tho.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:53 PM (eoQWY)

Or the buffalo.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 27, 2022 08:56 PM (b2nrj)

298 288 Allow me a demonstration that even Congressmen can understand...
Posted by: Richard Feynman at July 27, 2022 08:54 PM (4E7Sa)


Exactly. Only a tiny subset of geniuses know how to talk to idiots, and he was one of the few.

Posted by: Splunge at July 27, 2022 08:56 PM (cm/80)

299 And they have actually found ancient hunting drive kill sites and excavated them, so something killed a mess of buffalo.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:56 PM (eoQWY)
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Mega-lemmings chased them off the cliffs...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 08:57 PM (K5n5d)

300 137 Imagine driving that Sri Lanka roadway during a rainstorm. I'd be screaming in my car the whole wayTBH.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 27, 2022 08:17 PM (NpAcC)

I wonder how often landslides and rockslides happen there

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 27, 2022 08:57 PM (gbzeC)

301 300th!

Posted by: Robert at July 27, 2022 08:57 PM (q8QJ9)

302 Gay Sex is Safe Sex!
Gay Sex is Protected Sex!
Posted by: The CDC

What about a trans-woman with a trans-man?
Posted by: Javems

Well, you know, it's Gay Sex. So not the front hole.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 08:57 PM (ftFVW)

303 Allow me a demonstration that even Congressmen can understand...
Posted by: Richard Feynman at July 27, 2022 08:54 PM


If you've read that story, it's clear how the manipulated the situation so that Dr. Feynman would be the court jester who could speak truth to power.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 27, 2022 08:58 PM (a3Q+t)

304 Bruce Wayne, wasn't a buffalo within 50 miles of the Arbuckles or Turner Falls. Buffalo don't graze on the side of a cliff.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:58 PM (6HZ10)

305 296 And they have actually found ancient hunting drive kill sites and excavated them, so something killed a mess of buffalo.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:56 PM (eoQWY)


Toxic farts from an ancestor of Eric Swallwell?

Posted by: Splunge at July 27, 2022 08:58 PM (cm/80)

306 Now there's great herds of transsexuals roaming the planes.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 08:58 PM (eGTCV)

307 >>> On the other hand, the reason for that were all the settlers being killed.
Posted by: Kindltot
----------------------------

No one talks about the truces they broke and how they did it.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 27, 2022 08:58 PM (Ui1jv)

308 A mile or two from here is Vache Gras Creek. Some Frenchie Voyageur is said to have killed a buffalo there, and named it Fat Cow.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 27, 2022 08:58 PM (lz5hY)

309 So not the front hole.
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 08:57 PM


Not interested, then.

Posted by: Candiru at July 27, 2022 08:58 PM (a3Q+t)

310 I've seen many elk slaughtered on the freeway by tracker-trailers and not once did I think, "that road-kill looks delicious."

Why would anybody make it a habit to drive their food off of a cliff?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 27, 2022 08:59 PM (0ocXn)

311 Animal hunting frequently suffered from a tragedy of the commons through most of human history. There is no incentive for an individual to be particularly careful, and there usually wasn't much understanding of taxing the ecology too hard.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 27, 2022 08:59 PM (b2nrj)

312 The Mayas and Aztecs built advanced (if bloodthirsty) civilizations without the buffalo.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 08:59 PM (atmen)

313 How much farting did buffalo herds do?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 08:59 PM (eGTCV)

314 The new bridge is probably stronger, and is wider, but the old bridge works and I would have just built to match that.
Posted by: HTL at July 27, 2022 08:39 PM (meAg6)

I've heard that the new bridge is supposed to look like Gertie, as a tribute or something. I don't know if that's accurate but it sounds dumb enough to be true.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 08:47 PM (BJKQV)


The new bridge looks like an updated imitation of the replacement for the original. Let's call Galloping Gertie #1. The replacement #2. And the expanded bridge #3. So #3 was built to sort of look like #2 which was built to sort of look like #1.

All I can say is that #2 has been standing for about 72 years without incident, so I guess the new base structure is sound.

Posted by: HTL at July 27, 2022 08:59 PM (meAg6)

315 I've seen many elk slaughtered on the freeway by tracker-trailers and not once did I think, "that road-kill looks delicious."

*

We will look back on these days with fondness.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at July 27, 2022 09:00 PM (e0y0z)

316 No one talks about Jackson allowing the Cherokee to take their slaves with them or that more slaves than Cherokee died on the trail.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 27, 2022 09:00 PM (Ui1jv)

317 310 Why would anybody make it a habit to drive their food off of a cliff?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 27, 2022 08:59 PM (0ocXn)


Ask McDonald's. They stopped cooking their fries in beef tallow.

Posted by: Splunge at July 27, 2022 09:00 PM (cm/80)

318 Bruce Wayne, wasn't a buffalo within 50 miles of the Arbuckles or Turner Falls. Buffalo don't graze on the side of a cliff.
Posted by: Ben Had

I don't know nothing bout know buffalo, just saying we do have some tall shit

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:00 PM (MGB5H)

319 310 I've seen many elk slaughtered on the freeway by tracker-trailers and not once did I think, "that road-kill looks delicious."

Why would anybody make it a habit to drive their food off of a cliff?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 27, 2022 08:59 PM (0ocXn)

Weapon availability was primitive and you don't have much in the way of alternatives. Better than the limited small game available.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 27, 2022 09:00 PM (b2nrj)

320 Also worth noting that whole lack of things to hunt issue was addressed by some tribes with cannibalism.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 27, 2022 09:01 PM (b2nrj)

321 It happened before they had horses. You couldn't get a lot of buffalo hunting them on foot with spears. It would be more convenient to kill or cripple them in mass, then just finish them off. They did it when they could.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at July 27, 2022 09:01 PM (5HBd1)

322 The closest thing to buffalo herds of yore might be the caribou herds in the arctic.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:01 PM (eGTCV)

323 Americans often romanticize the American Indians. And some it is actually justified. They were small, tribal, they had "elders" who had to justify to the tribe they were working on their behalf. It wasn't a bad system...for the BC 500.

But they could have made immediately made peace with an obvious superior force that actually would have made peace if approached, worked out land usage and representation in government, joined forces as it were, and helped their tribes immensely. But pre-BC behavior always gets in the way of thinking beyond next week - and the tribes today still suffer. The casino idea is actually quite good for them. Its helped resurrect them.

Posted by: Boswell at July 27, 2022 09:01 PM (+Cgut)

324 Looks like Oberlin is still doing everything they can to destroy them.
Posted by: A Lisboner at July 27, 2022 08:51 PM

Oberlin and all its works can get fucked by the barbed cock of Satan.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 27, 2022 09:02 PM (RkC6l)

325 Why would anybody make it a habit to drive their food off of a cliff?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 27, 2022 08:59 PM


Simple. They were assisting in their transitioning; in this case from bison at the top of the cliff to food at the bottom.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 27, 2022 09:02 PM (a3Q+t)

326 323 The casino idea is actually quite good for them. Its helped resurrect them.
Posted by: Boswell at July 27, 2022 09:01 PM (+Cgut)


Even better for them if Biden succeeds in his quest to remove 90+% of the nicotine from cigarettes.

Posted by: Splunge at July 27, 2022 09:03 PM (cm/80)

327 311 Animal hunting frequently suffered from a tragedy of the commons through most of human history. There is no incentive for an individual to be particularly careful, and there usually wasn't much understanding of taxing the ecology too hard.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy -
----------------------

If these Gaia lovers really had a brain or cared they wouldn't over tax our food supply.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 27, 2022 09:03 PM (Ui1jv)

328 Wow, a whole thread hijacked by buffalo!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 09:03 PM (atmen)

329 More organized tribes did eventually have slaves - black slaves at least. I don't know if they had them before Columbus.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:40 PM (eoQWY)


Most of the Northwest tribes had slaves, and slaving was normal for the Creek and other Eastern tribes.
Daniel Boone was held that way for a while, and a number of sailors who wrecked on the Pacific coast wound up slaves too.
Slaves are a good thing to have when your economy is run on Dentalia shells, salmon and bear grease, because someone has to harvest salmon and bears and sea critters, and your labor force is your women who have other duties as well.
There are a lot of studies (from before our time) that considered the economic value of slavery in history.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 09:03 PM (xhaym)

330
Management: below 32? So 32 is fine? Its probably fine. No need to ask.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 08:49 PM (eC4Tv)

____________

Management wants things to hold together long enough so that they'll be promoted before the SHTF.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 27, 2022 09:03 PM (1Nxff)

331
Mr. Feynman's famous ice water demonstration:

https://tinyurl.com/236bdtp7

And he indeed later realized that some of the NASA engineers knew what the problem was, and made sure he would look at the seals and temperature. They were afraid to buck their superiors, but made sure he would discover it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 27, 2022 09:03 PM (Mzdiz)

332 Oldcat, I respectfully disagree. What you say is true of a cow but not a buffalo. Cannon bone structure on a buffalo is even less than a cow and can withstand a threefold more amount of impact..

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 09:04 PM (6HZ10)

333 What about a trans-woman with a trans-man?
Posted by: Javems

Well, you know, it's Gay Sex. So not the front hole.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 08:57 PM (ftFVW)

I still get confused with who is what. Good thing I'm not in the dating scene anymore.

Posted by: Javems at July 27, 2022 09:04 PM (AmoqO)

334 Why would anybody make it a habit to drive their food off of a cliff?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 27, 2022 08:59 PM (0ocXn)


Here, have a spear and go stab that buffalo to death.

I will wait over there on the bluff, besides that really tall tree.

(My neice's daughter got a buck on a salvage tag last year, it was pretty tasty)

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 09:05 PM (xhaym)

335 Many people forget that there were a shitload of grizzlies and buffalo wolf packs that roamed the plains years ago.

Humans probably had half of their work done for them by fucking monster wolves alone.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 27, 2022 09:05 PM (0ocXn)

336 323 Americans often romanticize the American Indians. And some it is actually justified. They were small, tribal, they had "elders" who had to justify to the tribe they were working on their behalf. It wasn't a bad system...for the BC 500.

But they could have made immediately made peace with an obvious superior force that actually would have made peace if approached, worked out land usage and representation in government, joined forces as it were, and helped their tribes immensely. But pre-BC behavior always gets in the way of thinking beyond next week - and the tribes today still suffer. The casino idea is actually quite good for them. Its helped resurrect them.
Posted by: Boswell at July 27, 2022 09:01 PM (+Cgut)

While the Indians had more primitive tech and society than 500 BC, their diplomacy wasn't particularly dumb. Their relatively decentralized set up in North America and looser cultural standards regarding conflict meant they got into wars not always of the intention of leadership.

Comparatively, the more organized and sedantary natives in South America and Mexico essentially had more of a change in management when the Spanish arrived.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 27, 2022 09:05 PM (b2nrj)

337 Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 07:54 PM (6HZ10)

Do they taste like a dove?

Posted by: Clutch at July 27, 2022 09:06 PM (9UmRs)

338 I've been told buffalo are easier to raise thsn cattle. For one thing they graze on anything.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:06 PM (eGTCV)

339 Some of the Northeastern tribes did that. And it worked out pretty well till they got decimated by disease.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at July 27, 2022 09:07 PM (5HBd1)

340
Europeans are accused of genocide of Indians, but most Indians were dead from disease long before they saw a European.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 27, 2022 09:07 PM (1Nxff)

341 I still get confused with who is what. Good thing I'm not in the dating scene anymore.
Posted by: Javems at

First date-
Hi it's nice to meet you. Do you now or have you ever had a penis?

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:07 PM (MGB5H)

342 TBH... buffalo is tasty.

And lean. Over a cliff or not.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 27, 2022 09:07 PM (BFigT)

343 I've been told buffalo are easier to raise thsn cattle. For one thing they graze on anything.
Posted by: N.L. Urker

The hard part is keeping them in an enclosure of any type. Barbed wire is a mere suggestion to them.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 27, 2022 09:07 PM (6WCwE)

344 That guy definitely knew his shit building that bridge but him wearing a mask took a lot of the cool factor away.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 27, 2022 09:08 PM (YglAn)

345 Frustrated that the guy built that bridge over a perfectly peaceful creek. Super pissed that he did it wearing a mask.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at July 27, 2022 09:08 PM (zjVy3)

346 Bruce Wayne, hugs to you and your Mom and Dad. For reality sake, I don't care to be within 10 miles of a buffalo.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 09:08 PM (6HZ10)

347 The dude that was bitten by a seal in Oahu will probably be hit with a fine for harassing wildlife.

I spent 5 days in Kauai years ago and they did not take that stuff lightly.
IIRC, the fine could be as high as 25k.
Personally witnessed the locals yelling and taking pics of some lady who got too close to some nesting birds just to take pics in violation of clearly posted signs.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at July 27, 2022 09:09 PM (8xlOh)

348 Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:06 PM (eGTCV)

Pigs with fur

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 27, 2022 09:10 PM (YglAn)

349
The hard part is keeping them in an enclosure of any type. Barbed wire is a mere suggestion to them.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 27, 2022 09:07 PM (6WCwE)

_________

"Buffalo-Free Zone" signs. That ought to stop them

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 27, 2022 09:10 PM (1Nxff)

350 The Nuge singing Great White Buffalo: https://bit.ly/3zfAJbR

Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2022 09:10 PM (u+Y3T)

351 I prefer the threads where we talk about Ann-Margaret and Victoria Principal.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 09:10 PM (atmen)

352 Did y’all know that ribs regenerate?

Posted by: Miss Issippi at July 27, 2022 09:10 PM (zjVy3)

353 I've been told buffalo are easier to raise thsn cattle.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:06 PM


Aside from certain factors, such as being more osterperous and cantankerous than cattle and needing much stronger and robust fencing (if a bison can get its nose over or under a fence, it will get everything over or under, assuming it can't just 'punch' through).

Basically the bison ranchers I know say "You can make a bison do anything it wants to do."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 27, 2022 09:11 PM (a3Q+t)

354 17 Where was that Lara Croft ride? Be the 3rd Lara Croft I'd choose to ride but def would.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 07:45 PM (MGB5H)

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As a younger man I'd have been all over that ride. Now I'd be sick as a dog inn less that 10 seconds. Woof

Posted by: 496 at July 27, 2022 09:11 PM (U1eOr)

355 Buffalo meat is wonderful. Buffalo socks and gloves are the warmest you will ever wear. Me, I still want a Yak.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 09:11 PM (6HZ10)

356 weft cut. Alberta ain't N Dakota, S Dakota, or Oklahoma. Did what you say happen yes but on the whole it didn't.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 08:47 PM (6HZ10)


Look up "buffalo jump" and see where they are at in the US, generally that is where that sort of thing went on.

The open plains did need horses to build a buffalo hunting culture. There was no way to box them in or surround them quickly. I think the Sioux or another tribe (can't remember) appear to be an Eastern group that adopted horses and buffalo hunting when the moved to the plains and abandoned agriculture.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 09:13 PM (xhaym)

357 355 Alpaca

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 09:13 PM (atmen)

358 If the GOPe had the backbone of some Indian tribes, we would be OK. Albany "We need to tax your cigarettes". Seneca Nation "No, and we'll just shut down this road for a little bit until you figure the meaning of the word No". Albany "We want the state gaming commission to monitor your casino activity". Seneca Nation "Don't you listen? Shut down the road, boys".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 27, 2022 09:13 PM (lz5hY)

359 Indians burned down whole forests in Western KY trying to lure Buffalo over the Ohio river. The area is now know an the "Barrens". There is a Barren County. There were down in KY but not many

Posted by: Javems at July 27, 2022 09:13 PM (AmoqO)

360 Geez. I calculated the circumference of the earth with sticks, and you guys can't figure out how many genders there are?

Posted by: Eratosthenes at July 27, 2022 09:13 PM (/NCI4)

361 I know ace posted abut the LIV golf tour earlier. They have just announced they are upping their payouts. For the 2023 season they will pay out 405m over 14 events. The PGA will pay out approximately 440m over 49 events.

Add in the massive guaranteed contracts and it's no wonder more and more are making the switch.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:14 PM (MGB5H)

362 360 LOL

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 09:14 PM (atmen)

363 Did y’all know that ribs regenerate?

Posted by: Miss Issippi at July 27, 2022 09:10 PM (zjVy3)

Hmm I guess I have been going to the wrong barbecue.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 27, 2022 09:15 PM (VwHCD)

364 348 Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:06 PM (eGTCV)

Pigs with fur
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 27, 2022 09:10 PM (YglAn)

Idk. Pigs are smart. And mean.

Posted by: Ganymede at July 27, 2022 09:15 PM (BJKQV)

365 The open plains did need horses to build a buffalo hunting culture. There was no way to box them in or surround them quickly. I think the Sioux or another tribe (can't remember) appear to be an Eastern group that adopted horses and buffalo hunting when the moved to the plains and abandoned agriculture.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 09:13 PM (xhaym)

I thin the Comanche were the quickest to adopt a horse culture.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:15 PM (eGTCV)

366 *throws Bulgaroctonus a 2' BUFFALO FILET*

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 09:15 PM (6HZ10)

367 Do any of you know the exact location of that stream with the tiny bridge over it?

Posted by: California - still looking for water at July 27, 2022 09:15 PM (U1eOr)

368 Geez. I calculated the circumference of the earth with sticks, and you guys can't figure out how many genders there are?
Posted by: Eratosthenes

The significance of sticks is a construct of the patriarchy.

Posted by: Gender Studies Professor at July 27, 2022 09:15 PM (ftFVW)

369 qiviut (musk ox)

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at July 27, 2022 09:15 PM (5HBd1)

370 Anyone here actually raise buffalo? For sale? Meat wise. Not as pets.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 27, 2022 09:15 PM (BFigT)

371 359 Indians burned down whole forests in Western KY
Posted by: Javems at July 27, 2022 09:13 PM (AmoqO)

They were just painting with all the colors of the wind.

Posted by: Ganymede at July 27, 2022 09:16 PM (BJKQV)

372 It happened before they had horses. You couldn't get a lot of buffalo hunting them on foot with spears. It would be more convenient to kill or cripple them in mass, then just finish them off. They did it when they could.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
--------
Obligatory Dark Side cartoon, laterally relevant:
https://tinyurl.com/4w9tr9fm

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 27, 2022 09:16 PM (FJCnW)

373 Didn't kill the naked Amerindians tho.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 08:53 PM (eoQWY)


Ancestors came across Beringia and had fire and dogs.
Also, they could live on fish and prairie dogs.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 09:16 PM (xhaym)

374 I wonder who the first person to think it would be a good idea to jump on the back of a horse.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:17 PM (eGTCV)

375 233 Hadrian maybe I should know but I don't. Sometimes the name for residents of a city or place does not follow directly from the place name, as in Rio de Janeiro, whose inhabitants are known as "cariocas".

Posted by: rhomboid at July 27, 2022 08:39 PM (OTzUX)
----
Similarly but not quite: people from Glasgow are Glaswegians.

Posted by: Ciampino - what is a person from Cairo? at July 27, 2022 09:17 PM (qfLjt)

376 366 Bulgaroctonus: Nom nom

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 09:17 PM (atmen)

377 I was thinking about Little Big Man, where the lazy Indian kills one with a spear.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at July 27, 2022 09:17 PM (5HBd1)

378 Ribs regenerate?
Chernobyl Farms ribs?
Everytime you take a bite the part grows back.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at July 27, 2022 09:18 PM (8xlOh)

379 wonder who the first person to think it would be a good idea to jump on the back of a horse.
Posted by: N.L. Urker

Dollars to donuts it was a drunk dude.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:18 PM (MGB5H)

380 Hmm.

Tyler Carditis @TyCardon; 1h
Bizarre that the State Department rented out a five-story upper East Side mansion to Jeffrey Epstein from 1992 to 1996. Does the State Department rent out property to private citizens often? Seems weird.

https://nitter.net/TyCardon/status/
1552445995396767744#m

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 27, 2022 09:18 PM (yikp0)

381 I prefer the threads where we talk about Ann-Margaret and Victoria Principal.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Handcuffed together. Wearing only tee-shirts. Slathered in baked beans.

What? We can all have our own dream.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 27, 2022 09:19 PM (6WCwE)

382 Dollars to donuts it was a drunk dude.

Hold my fermented mare's milk.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 27, 2022 09:19 PM (/NCI4)

383 I wonder who the first person to think it would be a good idea to jump on the back of a horse.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:17 PM (eGTCV)

Somebody who was late, or tired of walking.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 27, 2022 09:19 PM (VwHCD)

384
Dollars to donuts it was a drunk dude.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:18 PM (MGB5H)

__________

"Hold my mead and watch this!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 27, 2022 09:20 PM (1Nxff)

385 >>Some of the Northeastern tribes did that. And it worked out pretty well till they got decimated by disease.

It's kind of interesting that most people associate Indians, feather, with the west when some of the most vicious and deadly Indian/settler wars took place in the east.

King Philip's War almost ended the colonies before the country was founded. No buffalos were harmed.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 27, 2022 09:20 PM (ZLI7S)

386 Bruce Wayne, hugs to you and your Mom and Dad. For reality sake, I don't care to be within 10 miles of a buffalo.
Posted by: Ben Had

Thanks Ben Had. Ill tell em you said hi, pops is actually coming up for a few weeks tomorrow.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:20 PM (MGB5H)

387 wonder who the first person to think it would be a good idea to jump on the back of a horse.
Posted by: N.L. Urker

Dollars to donuts it was a drunk dude.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:18 PM (MGB5H)

I would say florida man, but horses weren't native to the US

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 27, 2022 09:20 PM (VwHCD)

388

Sneak in at night and blow the bridge over the Creek Kwai.

Madness

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2022 09:21 PM (63Dwl)

389 Elephants are big ole softies. Except when they kneel on your head.

Check out albino orphan elephant Khanyisa at HERD Elephant Orphanage South Africa on yootoob. (She was found in 2020 cut up badly by razor sharp snares that poachers set up to trap elephants.)

The hoomans go walking around with a herd of elephants every day, filming it so you get the whole "you are there" experience.

Posted by: JuJuBee at July 27, 2022 09:21 PM (WL1q5)

390 I wonder who the first person to think it would be a good idea to jump on the back of a horse.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:17 PM (eGTCV)

I wonder who got the bright idea to start sucking on cow titty.

I've got a nagging suspicion it was a perverse bet between two cavemen.

Posted by: Robert at July 27, 2022 09:21 PM (WP6j0)

391 I wonder who the first person to think it would be a good idea to jump on the back of a horse.
Posted by: N.L. Urker

Lady Godiva?

Since she rode side-saddle, I'm pretty certain I know the origin of the cheer "Hurrah for our side!"

Posted by: Tonypete at July 27, 2022 09:22 PM (6WCwE)

392 Here's the ugly truth: Indians aren't, and never have been, "Noble Savages." They don't follow the "Jungle Law." They're human, just like the rest of us. And humans do what they feel they need to to survive. If that means killing animals you don't really need to kill, then so be it. The difference between Indians and the settlers was technology and means of food production. If pre-Columbian Planes Indians had had horses and guns, or if they had developed agriculture and needed land for farming, I'm sure there would have been a lot more Indians and a lot fewer buffalo.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 09:22 PM (BJKQV)

393 I believe people first domesticated horse for mean and milk. Riding came later. I don't know where chariots fit in.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:23 PM (eGTCV)

394 Lady Godiva?

Since she rode side-saddle, I'm pretty certain I know the origin of the cheer "Hurrah for our side!"
Posted by: Tonypete

Catherine the great rode it in a different kind of saddle.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:23 PM (MGB5H)

395 Smoke screen...1st american use was the RE Lee, using it against the iraquois to run a blockade. At Anzio allied forces deployed a "Light screen" ..enough to allow marine operations but obscure precise observations/targeting... 19 miles long, during all daylight hours...for Two Months.

Posted by: Birddog at July 27, 2022 09:23 PM (uAI4S)

396 What the Plains Indians were really good at exterminating was the Indian tribes that had previously inhabited the Great Plains before they showed up and "stole" their land.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 09:24 PM (BJKQV)

397 Generally enjoy his stuff and nod along, but Critical Drinker's latest is 9 minutes of absolute fire.

Marvel Phase 5: The Sludge Must Flow
https://tinyurl.com/2p85zxch

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2022 09:24 PM (onj90)

398 Awww... the doggie taking the treat and sharing with the kitty and then taking the small one for himself!! So cute!

Posted by: Iris at July 27, 2022 09:26 PM (foa6+)

399 Awww... the doggie taking the treat and sharing with the kitty and then taking the small one for himself!! So cute!
Posted by: Iris

That's not a kitty...

Posted by: She Hobbit (look at the cute piglet) at July 27, 2022 09:27 PM (ftFVW)

400 I just read this yesterday in Pliny's Natural History

"Bellerophon was the first who mounted the horse;bridles and saddles for the horse were invented by Pelethronius. The Thessalians, who are called Centauri, and who dwell along Mount Pelion, were the first to fight on horse-back. The people of Phrygia were the first who used chariots with two horses; Erichthonius first used four."

Posted by: fd at July 27, 2022 09:27 PM (sn5EN)

401 Martini Farmer, I bought two to train my cow horses on. Upside, they never got sour and wouldn't work. I kept them in a 5' pipe and cable fence. they were calves,. Would never have a full grown one.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 09:27 PM (6HZ10)

402 Plains Indians were a lot more nomadic. East and Midwest Indians not so much.

Posted by: Javems at July 27, 2022 09:27 PM (AmoqO)

403 And who the hell had the bright idea of climbing on the back of a camel or elephant.?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:28 PM (eGTCV)

404 Awww... the doggie taking the treat and sharing with the kitty and then taking the small one for himself!! So cute!
--------------------------
Actually, it's a piglet!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 27, 2022 09:28 PM (yikp0)

405 I am always amazed at the passion surrounding the Younger Dryas megafauna extinction.

The critters aren't coming back and the claimed villains are dead and even their kids are gone and buried.
The Archeologists that focus on that period act like to discuss it is like the mainstream church's attitude about Traditional Mass, and if you ever heard someone start screaming about micro-diamonds and whether the Pilauco carbon layer has anything to do with anything but climate change, well, you may one day be in for a treat

I have seen arguments for and against, I like the meteorite proposal, but the over-hunting is interesting too, my problem is that population levels of the paleo-indians seem low for that much effect.

My two bits.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 09:28 PM (xhaym)

406 I think they used them to pull travois. They used dogs for that originally.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at July 27, 2022 09:28 PM (5HBd1)

407 393 I believe people first domesticated horse for mean and milk. Riding came later. I don't know where chariots fit in.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:23 PM (eGTCV)

Originally, horses were much smaller than they are currently. They were good for pulling chariots though, but chariots were used for bringing fighters into battle more quickly or as a platform for archers. You couldn't ride a horse and fight without stirrups, which weren't invented until the first century BC. The Chinese later came out with a better model that Europeans adopted.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 09:29 PM (BJKQV)

408 398 I thought it was a piglet that the dog was was sharing with.

Ace, can we get a ruling from the judges here?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 09:29 PM (atmen)

409 can we get a ruling from the judges here?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 09:29 PM (atmen)

Thou hast sinned greatly against the LORD! Thou shalt be cast into the burning eternal fires of HELL!

Posted by: Judges at July 27, 2022 09:32 PM (WP6j0)

410 Generally enjoy his stuff and nod along, but Critical Drinker's latest is 9 minutes of absolute fire.

Marvel Phase 5: The Sludge Must Flow
https://tinyurl.com/2p85zxch
Posted by: ... at July 27, 2022 09:24 PM (onj90)
---
Yep. I watched that earlier. Disney (and other streaming platforms) have a bit of a problem when it comes to content. The law of diminishing returns is really starting to catch up to them. They just push out crap and hope enough people are suckered into watching the spectacle through monthly subscription fees. The shows are bland, meaningless pap.

Reminds me of the content pumped into houses in Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, actually.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 09:33 PM (K5n5d)

411 Similarly but not quite: people from Glasgow are Glaswegians.
Posted by: Ciampino - what is a person from Cairo? at July 27, 2022 09:17 PM


People from AoSHQ are Morons.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 27, 2022 09:33 PM (a3Q+t)

412 Originally, horses were much smaller than they are currently. They were good for pulling chariots though, but chariots were used for bringing fighters into battle more quickly or as a platform for archers. You couldn't ride a horse and fight without stirrups, which weren't invented until the first century BC. The Chinese later came out with a better model that Europeans adopted.
Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 09:29 PM (BJKQV)

You could fight from horseback without stirrups, though they're helpful.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 27, 2022 09:33 PM (b2nrj)

413 Originally, horses were much smaller than they are currently. They were good for pulling chariots though, but chariots were used for bringing fighters into battle more quickly or as a platform for archers. You couldn't ride a horse and fight without stirrups, which weren't invented until the first century BC. The Chinese later came out with a better model that Europeans adopted.
Posted by: 29Victor at July 27, 2022 09:29 PM

The Mongolian horses were small I believe.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:34 PM (eGTCV)

414 In the Iliad, chariots were used to transport the warriors to the battlefield, and then the warriors would dismount and fight on foot. Weird.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 09:34 PM (atmen)

415 I have seen arguments for and against, I like the meteorite proposal, but the over-hunting is interesting too, my problem is that population levels of the paleo-indians seem low for that much effect.

My two bits.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 09:28 PM (xhaym)
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Until someone finally invents a T.A.R.D.I.S. and we can go back in time to find out what actually happened, a lot of our suppositions and hypotheses are just a form of mental masturbation.

Interesting thought experiments, but largely unfulfilling in the long run until we have more definitive evidence...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 27, 2022 09:35 PM (K5n5d)

416 255 My dentist gave me a plastic bottle of waste mercury when I was a kid (60 years ago). Can't imagine anyone doing that today.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Did the local firemen give you asbestos to throw in the air like confetti?

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 08:45 PM (ftFVW)
----
It's only blue asbestos that is bad, not all of it. Today that word is considered dirty.

Posted by: Ciampino - the hazard of mercury metal is exaggerated at July 27, 2022 09:35 PM (qfLjt)

417 >>Plains Indians were a lot more nomadic. East and Midwest Indians not so much.

Wasn't a big need here in the east. Narragansett Bay is named for the Narragansett tribe that lived all around the bay and had a relatively stable society that thrived on hunting, fishing and raising crops, mainly maze or what you white people call "corn". They made the tragic mistake of showing white people how to survive in the new world instead of building a wall.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 27, 2022 09:36 PM (ZLI7S)

418 I've spent an awful lot of time (post retirement) reading everything I can get my hands on about the sometimes tragic interactions between the whites and the native Americans. There are so many sad stories. The thing that interests me are the whites who were kidnapped or captured by the the natives as youngsters, later repatriated to the whites, and then ran off to be with the natives again.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, geting hungry at July 27, 2022 09:36 PM (jTmQV)

419 Will not thread jack on the evolution and domestication of the horse.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 09:36 PM (6HZ10)

420
The Mongolian horses were small I believe.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:34 PM (eGTCV)

Steppe horses, stocky and with stamina. The large and heavy chargers that were bred for knight charges tire easily by comparison.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 27, 2022 09:36 PM (b2nrj)

421 367 Do any of you know the exact location of that stream with the tiny bridge over it?
Posted by: California - still looking for water at July 27, 2022 09:15 PM (U1eOr)

------------------------------------

It's over by that dude in the black armor.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 27, 2022 09:37 PM (CAJOC)

422 In the Iliad, chariots were used to transport the warriors to the battlefield, and then the warriors would dismount and fight on foot. Weird.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I saw Brad Pitt do that in Troy.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:37 PM (MGB5H)

423 The Mongolian horses were small I believe.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:34 PM (eGTCV)

Still are.

Posted by: Javems at July 27, 2022 09:38 PM (AmoqO)

424 Wasn't a big need here in the east. Narragansett Bay is named for the Narragansett tribe that lived all around the bay and had a relatively stable society that thrived on hunting, fishing and raising crops, mainly maze or what you white people call "corn". They made the tragic mistake of showing white people how to survive in the new world instead of building a wall.
Posted by: JackStraw

I like their cheap beer.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:38 PM (MGB5H)

425 The Pope recently apologized to the Canadian natives about some thing or other, but he forgot his checkbook, so the natives are like "where's the $???".

Posted by: gourmand du jour, geting hungry at July 27, 2022 09:39 PM (jTmQV)

426 In the Iliad, chariots were used to transport the warriors to the battlefield, and then the warriors would dismount and fight on foot. Weird.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 09:34 PM (atmen)

The earliest chariots were basically four-wheeled carts, which turned like absolute shit. Useless as anything but transport or a semi-mobile archery platform.

It wasn't until the two-wheeled chariot came into play that they became the kings of the battlefield.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at July 27, 2022 09:40 PM (Unq4t)

427 Cable bridge. I doubt the tiny rebar is required.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at July 27, 2022 09:40 PM (vcv8B)

428 They made the tragic mistake of showing white people how to survive in the new world instead of building a wall.
Posted by: JackStraw

ISWYD

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2022 09:40 PM (onj90)

429 >>I like their cheap beer.

Hi Neighbor!

Posted by: JackStraw at July 27, 2022 09:40 PM (ZLI7S)

430 The earliest chariots were basically four-wheeled carts, which turned like absolute shit. Useless as anything but transport or a semi-mobile archery platform.
Posted by: Cato


They could have used them as battering rams, if they'd put the cart before the horse.

Posted by: mikeski at July 27, 2022 09:41 PM (P1f+c)

431 Hi Neighbor!
Posted by: JackStraw

Hah not anymore, but for a time. But I still like their cheap beer.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:41 PM (MGB5H)

432 You couldn't ride a horse and fight without stirrups,
----------------

Tell that to the Comanche.


Posted by: Braenyard at July 27, 2022 09:46 PM (Ui1jv)

433 If I'm not mistaken the earliest example of a wheel used for transport was found in the ancient city of Kish, south of Baghdad. It was dug in 1938 by the U. of Chicago and the Fields Museum. By son spent a year there guarding a com tower and keeping a section of the "Highway of Death" open.

Posted by: Javems at July 27, 2022 09:46 PM (AmoqO)

434 Figuring out how to get a horse to do something has been job security for thousands of years.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 09:47 PM (6HZ10)

435 I wonder who the first person to think it would be a good idea to jump on the back of a horse.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:17 PM (eGTCV)


Bored pre-Yamnaia kid, out tending the herds. The horses were herded as meat animals.

When I was a little kids, we would go over to the Dierdorfs and try to ride on the sheep, until Mrs Dierdorf told us to quit since the sheep would panic and run to hid under the house where the foundation was being repaired.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 09:47 PM (xhaym)

436 "Will not thread jack on the evolution and domestication of the horse."

Do it. You know you want to and we would find it most interesting.

Posted by: Tuna at July 27, 2022 09:47 PM (gLRfa)

437 One thing that stands out about Empire of the Summer Moon, which was a history/biography of Quanah Parker. The Comanche would rope a wild horse, strangle it until it was nearly dead, then breathe into its nostrils. The horse became very docile to its new human, and easily trained.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A Pox on Your Minkey at July 27, 2022 09:47 PM (x8Wzq)

438 Looks like Pelosi is pulling the assault weapons bill due to lack of votes.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 27, 2022 09:48 PM (a3Q+t)

439 Looks like Pelosi is pulling the assault weapons bill due to lack of votes.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

Find it hard to believe they dont have the votes in the house.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:51 PM (MGB5H)

440 I believe the Egyptians invented a chariot that was maneuverable in battle.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:51 PM (eGTCV)

441 381 Thanks, Tonypete. Now I’m never going to get to sleep.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 09:51 PM (atmen)

442 >>Hah not anymore, but for a time. But I still like their cheap beer.

That's actually Narragansett beer's tag line. Walk into any liquor store around here and you will see the Hi Neighbor! signs.

Rumor going around that everyone in RI knows is no more than 2 degrees of separation from anyone else so we are all kind of neighbors. Might be related. Guy who lives down the street only has one eye in the center of his head. Could be just a coincidence.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 27, 2022 09:51 PM (ZLI7S)

443 Looks like Pelosi is pulling the assault weapons bill due to lack of votes.

Looks like Adam Kinzinger is pulling his pud due to lack of testosterone.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 27, 2022 09:52 PM (/NCI4)

444 Find it hard to believe they dont have the votes in the house.
Posted by: BruceWayne

I'd sooner believe she was pulling it to add more restrictions and indignities.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 09:52 PM (ftFVW)

445 435 I wonder who the first person to think it would be a good idea to jump on the back of a horse.

Posted by: N.L. Urker
-------------------------

My uncle tried that. Did it exactly like the movies; bounded and coming up, placed hands on horse's rump, horse takes one step forward, uncle's face in dirt.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 27, 2022 09:54 PM (Ui1jv)

446 Pug, throwing a horse on the ground and covering it with a tarp is the fastest known method of subjugating a horse.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 09:54 PM (6HZ10)

447 Tucker Carlson: "schlong covid"

Was this one of you guys suggestion?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 27, 2022 09:54 PM (ybIRR)

448 "People assume that because I'm a teenager that I am naive or sensitive [but] I fully saw this as an opportunity," she tells PEOPLE.

Asked if she has a message for the lawmaker, Julianna said it would be, "Something along the lines of, 'Why are you concerned with what a teenager looks like, you creep?'"

I am not just some teenager, OMG I am just a teenager!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 09:54 PM (eC4Tv)

449 So allow me to end.

America, "The Rebublic" as was created, is about to be destroyed by Marxists who have ensconced themselves so deeply into the Democrate party, that there may be no other way to remove them without a 2nd Civil War.

Mid-Terms and 2024 aside. The Republic lives or dies in the next months...not years.

Sleep on that Horde...sleep on that.

Posted by: Nightwatch at July 27, 2022 09:54 PM (J00IM)

450 She is a 19 year old "activist" who "does work for" an abortion no profit. And looks exactly like someone who does activist work for a nonprofit, which was Gaetz' point.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 09:55 PM (eC4Tv)

451 Pug, throwing a horse on the ground and covering it with a tarp is the fastest known method of subjugating a horse.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 09:54 PM (6HZ10)

I cannot wait to meet you in October.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A Pox on Your Minkey at July 27, 2022 09:56 PM (x8Wzq)

452 Tyler Carditis @TyCardon; 1h
Bizarre that the State Department rented out a five-story upper East Side mansion to Jeffrey Epstein from 1992 to 1996. Does the State Department rent out property to private citizens often? Seems weird.

https://nitter.net/TyCardon/status/
1552445995396767744#m
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 27, 2022 09:18 PM (yikp0)

Why does State own a mansion anywhere? They can stay at hotels and boost the economy instead. NO, instead they have to rent it to criminals to do crimes.

Toss anyone involved in that into jail.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 09:57 PM (eoQWY)

453 So, you are saying that is what Gaetz should do with that abortion activist? Throw her to the ground and cover her with a tarp?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 09:57 PM (eC4Tv)

454 Just don't throw me to the ground and cover me with a tarp. I'll behave.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A Pox on Your Minkey at July 27, 2022 09:57 PM (x8Wzq)

455 Rumor going around that everyone in RI knows is no more than 2 degrees of separation from anyone else so we are all kind of neighbors. Might be related. Guy who lives down the street only has one eye in the center of his head. Could be just a coincidence.
Posted by: JackStraw

Thats funny. It took me, no lie, like 7 months of living up that way to finally be able to pronounce that name properly at the bar to get a beer.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:58 PM (MGB5H)

456 Sleep on that Horde...sleep on that.
Posted by: Nightwatch

Ah, Sleep, perchance to dream of rumbling across the wasteland with Mad Max.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 09:58 PM (ftFVW)

457 Pug, throwing a horse on the ground and covering it with a tarp is the fastest

And the first time I read this I was imagining a pug throwing a horse to the ground.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 09:59 PM (eC4Tv)

458 Ah, Sleep, perchance to dream of rumbling across the wasteland with Mad Max.
Posted by: She Hobbit

What about Chris Hemsworth's version of Imorton Joe?

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:59 PM (MGB5H)

459 Last week we were discussing different versions of hell.

I decided that when you get to hell, you are really hungry and they give you beautiful food.

But it's in tamper proof packaging and you get to try to open it for eternity.

And then you get raped by the devil.

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2022 10:00 PM (onj90)

460 to get a beer.
Posted by: BruceWayne

7 months to learn to say 'beer'?
Are you a moron or not?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 27, 2022 10:01 PM (StBu4)

461 Sleep, that knits up the day’s raveled sleeve of care

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 10:01 PM (atmen)

462 And the first time I read this I was imagining a pug throwing a horse to the ground.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 27, 2022 09:59 PM (eC4Tv)

Pugs got drunkard strength, and a fuckitall attitude.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A Pox on Your Minkey at July 27, 2022 10:01 PM (x8Wzq)

463 Seriously who invented this shit. I ordered this on Amazon. It's a fucking flash card. The only person that's gonna tamper with it is me. It's in this giant impossible to open cardboard that peels every which way, and refuses to release its contents. I am going to go vmom on it in a minute.

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2022 10:01 PM (onj90)

464 The Mongolian horses were small I believe.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 27, 2022 09:34 PM (eGTCV)

Still are.
Posted by: Javems at July 27, 2022 09:38 PM (AmoqO)

All the proto horses were smaller before domestication, hence the need for chariots in the early days before horses were bred up to be able to carry an armored man all day without breaking down.

Once that worked horse troops were a lot more flexible and useful in rough terrain. Still not as good as light infantry with ranged weapons there, but with chariots it was impossible.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 10:01 PM (eoQWY)

465 >>Thats funny. It took me, no lie, like 7 months of living up that way to finally be able to pronounce that name properly at the bar to get a beer.


Roof top deck at the Coast Guard House in Narragansett. Drinking a Gansett or 6 and eating from the raw bar.

Summer is good.

https://thecoastguardhouse.com

Posted by: JackStraw at July 27, 2022 10:02 PM (ZLI7S)

466 Pug , fear not.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2022 10:02 PM (6HZ10)

467 What about Chris Hemsworth's version of Imorton Joe?
Posted by: BruceWayne

Oh that gives me the sads.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 10:02 PM (ftFVW)

468 I cannot wait to meet you in October.

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If I may be so bold, you will be surprised.

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Posted by: She Hobbit

It MIGHT not be true. But it almost most certainly is sure to be.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 10:03 PM (MGB5H)

470 Rumor going around that everyone in RI knows is no more than 2 degrees of separation from anyone else so we are all kind of neighbors. Might be related. Guy who lives down the street only has one eye in the center of his head. Could be just a coincidence.
Posted by: JackStraw

Thats funny. It took me, no lie, like 7 months of living up that way to finally be able to pronounce that name properly at the bar to get a beer.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 09:58 PM (MGB5H)

Could be the Innsmouth look, flatfish version.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 10:04 PM (eoQWY)

471 It MIGHT not be true. But it almost most certainly is sure to be.
Posted by: BruceWayne

Could explain how he starts the harem.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 27, 2022 10:04 PM (ftFVW)

472 In the Iliad, chariots were used to transport the warriors to the battlefield, and then the warriors would dismount and fight on foot. Weird.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 27, 2022 09:34 PM (atmen)

In the civil war, nearly all the time the cavalry was in serious action they sent one man in 4 off with 4 horses, and three men fell in line to hold the area. With repeaters or breechloading carbines, they could do serious damage to regular infantry, at least for a while.

You really can't do much damage on a horse with a gun - bad seat, horse moves oddly, and with a saber its even worse. It was a lot worse trying to take on an armored man with a sword.

And it is very hard to really charge a line of men with a horse. They are smart enough to stop if they see a large obstacle like formed troops. Only if they run before you get there do you have a chance

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 10:09 PM (eoQWY)

473 Nood

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 27, 2022 10:11 PM (MGB5H)

474 You could fight from horseback without stirrups, though they're helpful.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 27, 2022 09:33 PM (b2nrj)

There's a story that in the first battle between the Romans and Hannibal in North Italy it started with a cavalry clash for some time, and every single man in the fight on both sides was unhorsed before it was over.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 10:12 PM (eoQWY)

475 the chariot is different from a wagon, the chariot is configured more like a travois, with the weight supported between the wheels and the horse. They are built to be quite flexible but manageable so they don't bounce everyone out going across rough ground, and the wheels and axles have to be very sturdy.

In that configuration they are quite handy and turned well, where a cart of that period was not.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 10:13 PM (xhaym)

476 I think it was a die off due to a series of meteorite hits massively affecting the local climates and kicking off a second glaciation
Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2022 08:50 PM (xhaym)

When I was in grad school there was a huge fad to try and explain every single aspect of mass extinctions and global changes by meteors. This was only a few years after they really demonstrated that *any* were by finally showing the KT boundary was meteoric in origin.

So I have a very jaundiced view - I mean there have been times when much of Washington/Oregon/Idaho area was getting a mile of lava on top of it and it was still "meteor or nothing"

Similarly, I have heard lots of documentaries talking about these extinctions, when men arrived and looking for all sorts of obscure climate/parasites/disease vectors to explain the death of large animals in that plains area and not moose in the north woods or deer in the midwest and somehow never mention that men could do the job. After all, we know they did it on all the other continents pretty much too.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 27, 2022 10:19 PM (eoQWY)

477 "WNBA's Brittney Griner Drops Bombshell Claim About What Was Done to Her After She Was Cuffed"

They checked for a dick?

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