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Arizona Gives School Choice to All K-12 Students
This session, let's expand school choice any way we can," declared Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey in his State of the State address on Jan. 10, "Let's think big and find more ways to get kids into the school of their parents' choice. Send me the bills, and I'll sign them." The Arizona Legislature on Friday night answered Ducey's call, passing a bill to expand eligibility for the state's Empowerment Scholarship Accounts (also known as education savings accounts or ESAs) to all K-12 students. Once signed into law, Arizona will reclaim its title as the state with the "most expansive ESA" policy in the nation. Empowerment Scholarship Accounts empower families with the freedom and flexibility to customize their child's education. Arizona families can currently use ESAs to pay for private school tuition, tutoring, textbooks, homeschool curriculums, online courses, educational therapy, and more. The ESAs are funded with 90% of the state portion of Arizona's per-pupil funding, including the additional funds for students with special needs. Currently, about a quarter of elementary and secondary students in Arizona are eligible for an ESA, including students with special needs, students assigned to low-performing district schools, the children of active-duty military personnel, and a few other categories of students. The Arizona Senate passed HB 2853 on Friday night on a vote of 16 to 10. Earlier in the week, the Arizona House of Representatives passed it by a margin of 31 to 26.Break the teachers unions. Defund the government schools. End government payments to the institutions and organs of the left.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)excellent!
Posted by: portlandon at July 01, 2022 02:39 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty of BAD TRUMPY MANS! at July 01, 2022 02:39 PM (HnE9b)
Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2022 02:40 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2022 02:40 PM (N1tpc)
The Teachers Unions actively work to destroy our future by corrupting both teachers and students.
Posted by: portlandon at July 01, 2022 02:40 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 02:41 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Appycay at July 01, 2022 02:41 PM (zGcp1)
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 02:41 PM (nByzo)
Posted by: American Communist Lawyers Union at July 01, 2022 02:42 PM (a0KPx)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at July 01, 2022 02:42 PM (xPJvm)
AZ Morons: did any demorats join the GOP in passing this bill?
Posted by: kallisto at July 01, 2022 02:42 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 01, 2022 02:42 PM (NSWcw)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 01, 2022 02:42 PM (Ynyl9)
Posted by: American Communist Lawyers Union
Arbitrary and Capricious
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 01, 2022 02:43 PM (AutJR)
Posted by: Octochicken at July 01, 2022 02:43 PM (oCS0o)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 01, 2022 02:43 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: American Communist Lawyers Union
As if AZ will give 2 shits about how a HJ rules.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 02:43 PM (5LoLC)
Posted by: Hands at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (786Ro)
not as bad as the woman with the red boil on her back though
Posted by: kallisto at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (iFTx/)
This is really a big effing deal.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (nByzo)
Posted by: banana Dream at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (skf6d)
Defund the government schools.
End government payments to the institutions and organs of the left.
I'm down for all of this, but there's a nagging question. What do you do with the kids that are problem children? In gov't schools, they're very hard to kick out and even then, they're usually back in days.
With private and charter schools, those kids just get ejected.
Are we ready to let these kids completely leave the school system, or are we going to create alternative schools where it's basically juvenile detention with books?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (eyxn4)
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Why not 100%?
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (ZnbVj)
Posted by: Kirsten Sinema's closet at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at July 01, 2022 02:45 PM (Hh3y4)
As if AZ will give 2 shits about how a HJ rules.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 02:43 PM (5LoLC)
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You've been in AZ longer than I have. Do you think Democrats are going to get hammered in the general this year? Anything to indicate Democrats are nervous?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 02:45 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 01, 2022 02:45 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 01, 2022 02:45 PM (oWBc3)
This is absolutely incredible. My son graduates high school next May and we are finished with K-12 forever! Thank you God
Posted by: Jmel at July 01, 2022 02:45 PM (bVhJi)
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The shrieking and moaning by public school officials as enrollment falls is going to be EPIC. It won't even take much to completely detonate the school systems' budgets and capital positions. I'd bet that 10%-15% decline in enrollment would break most school districts.
What will be even more delightful is when a bunch of teachers and virtually every administrator is unable to find work in the non-system schools. Who would take them?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:45 PM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Shiggz at July 01, 2022 02:45 PM (0SrVS)
Win-win unless you're a public school employee
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 01, 2022 02:45 PM (MFphb)
Posted by: Diogenes at July 01, 2022 02:46 PM (anj39)
Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2022 02:40 PM (RHGPo)
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Nor will they be. Get fucked.
Posted by: Federal DoEd at July 01, 2022 02:46 PM (WWh8n)
Posted by: banana Dream
Oklahoma, some of the worst public schools in the nation. There is however a very robust homeschooling system/network here. They even have their own sports ball teams
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 01, 2022 02:46 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: Shiggz at July 01, 2022 02:46 PM (0SrVS)
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (eyxn4)
That's their parents' problems and the teachers who thought that teaching CRT, pedo grooming, and commie indoctrination were their prime directives.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 02:46 PM (nByzo)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 01, 2022 02:46 PM (TNyrE)
Posted by: Hands at July 01, 2022 02:46 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 01, 2022 02:46 PM (AutJR)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:45 PM (WWh8n)
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"Here's my lesson plan from last year."
"This is just a picture of your cock."
"Oh, no. That's not mine. That's my lover's cock. I fucked him the classroom."
"Sir, this is a Wendy's."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 02:47 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: banana Dream at July 01, 2022 02:47 PM (skf6d)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:45 PM (WWh8n)
not even SBUX wants them
I guess they end up in a blue shithle tent city
Posted by: kallisto at July 01, 2022 02:47 PM (dCxaZ)
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Ohio has DeWine, who isn't good, isn't solid, and is only sometimes conservative.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 01, 2022 02:47 PM (fs1hN)
Military school.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 01, 2022 02:47 PM (NSWcw)
Posted by: Diogenes at July 01, 2022 02:46 PM (anj39)
Already signed by Gov. as I recall reading up yesterday.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 02:47 PM (nByzo)
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at July 01, 2022 02:47 PM (vN+oL)
AZ Morons: did any demorats join the GOP in passing this bill?
Posted by: kallisto
In the Senate:
"The Senate passed the bill on a 16-14 party-line vote"
Can't find the house vote.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 02:48 PM (5LoLC)
Call em liberty bucks.
Posted by: Shiggz at July 01, 2022 02:48 PM (0SrVS)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 01, 2022 02:48 PM (AutJR)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at July 01, 2022 02:48 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 02:48 PM (llsW/)
A lot of those kids don't have parents. They're at grandma's house while mom is trying to get clean. Dad's been gone since the pregnancy test turned out positive.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:48 PM (eyxn4)
Are we ready to let these kids completely leave the school system?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (eyxn4)
Ummmmmmmm....Yes.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 01, 2022 02:48 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: American Communist Lawyers Union at July 01, 2022 02:42 PM (a0KPx)
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"U.S. states have no standing. Next!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 01, 2022 02:48 PM (ZnbVj)
No. Most voted no. Some did not vote. All R's voted for.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 02:48 PM (Bd6X8)
It's something, maybe enough to get some kids into Catholic Schools, but it's not a true voucher system.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 01, 2022 02:49 PM (dQvv7)
Posted by: kallisto at July 01, 2022 02:49 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Eternity Matters at July 01, 2022 02:49 PM (OAOcb)
With private and charter schools, those kids just get ejected.
Are we ready to let these kids completely leave the school system, or are we going to create alternative schools where it's basically juvenile detention with books?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (eyxn4)
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Either, or something else. But if I have a class of 25 kids and one of them is making me unable to teach the rest because, he needs to be kicked out. Whether he's just out and thrust onto his parents or whether he goes to some sort of educational halfway house or something else, I don't know. If more states do what AZ is doing, we'll find out how to handle this because the states will probably try half a dozen different things and we'll figure out what works.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:49 PM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Hands at July 01, 2022 02:49 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 02:48 PM (Bd6X
well, let's look on the bright side...they're staying true to their brand!
Posted by: kallisto at July 01, 2022 02:49 PM (dCxaZ)
as well as now going to GIVE Medical care to illegals.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 01, 2022 02:50 PM (oHd/0)
"The Senate passed the bill on a 16-14 party-line vote"
Can't find the house vote.
Here you go: https://legiscan.com/AZ/rollcall/HB2853/id/1217731
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 02:50 PM (Bd6X8)
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Ok, were all a bunch of winners, howzit feel, do you feel like a winner, like everyone else?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 01, 2022 02:50 PM (fs1hN)
I'm fine with them just being left out of education entirely if that's their demented wishes. They'll end up in jail soon enough anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 02:50 PM (llsW/)
You've been in AZ longer than I have. Do you think Democrats are going to get hammered in the general this year? Anything to indicate Democrats are nervous?
Posted by: blake
The areas that elect libs are dyed in the wool libs. They are raised on the lib lies and never take the time to think for themselves.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 02:50 PM (5LoLC)
Posted by: banana Dream at July 01, 2022 02:47 PM (skf6d)
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This is essentially how it works. Budgets depend on enrollment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:50 PM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 02:51 PM (llsW/)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 02:50 PM (5LoLC)
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Tucson and Phoenix, then.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 02:51 PM (5pTK/)
Are we ready to let these kids completely leave the school system, or are we going to create alternative schools where it's basically juvenile detention with books?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (eyxn4)
We have 3 choices:
1. Recognize that these kids aren't getting an education now. Give a gallic shrug an move on.
B. Open juvvie centers to house them, provide "structure" to their lives and attempt to educate them. This would, in all likelihood, fail.
Γ. Continue as we have been despite the fact that it's already been shown to be a failure.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 02:51 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at July 01, 2022 02:51 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 01, 2022 02:51 PM (AutJR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 01, 2022 02:52 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 02:52 PM (Bd6X8)
Giving the girlfriend the heave ho does not mean you bed everything that wants into your bed
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 02:52 PM (0jho/)
Posted by: Legion of Boom at July 01, 2022 02:52 PM (CPe1/)
Now let's see how much these school systems engage in obstruction. How hard is it going to be to actually get the voucher?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:52 PM (WWh8n)
Many have never had any discipline at all.
Open a military academy for them and get them righted.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 01, 2022 02:52 PM (NSWcw)
When I was a kid, the 21st Century was going to have Moon colonies and manned missions to Jupiter and flying cars and Dick Tracy two-way wrist TVs.
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 01, 2022 02:52 PM (aaGzp)
I wish all states would do similar things, especially my state.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at July 01, 2022 02:52 PM (iDUT1)
Blue cities can create EXACTLY the schools they want, and parents can send their kids to them and celebrate the diversity and gayness. This benefits them more than anyone else.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is not enjoying the Amber Heard presidency at July 01, 2022 02:52 PM (etIVw)
"If everyone is a winner then nobody wins"
Syndrome
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 02:51 PM (llsW/)
Everyone's a winner, baby, that's the truth (yes, the truth)
Making love to you is such a thrill.
Everyone's a winner, baby, that's no lie (yes, no lie)
You never fail to satisfy (satisfy)
Posted by: Hot Chocolate at July 01, 2022 02:53 PM (R/m4+)
Did anyone else read that headline as "Arizona Gives School Kids Choice of AKs"?
Because that would be awesome.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 01, 2022 02:53 PM (n+4am)
Allowing gov't schools to do this would fix a lot of their problems. The second change that would probably fix the rest is putting kids in the grade that matches their ability. No more putting kids who are four grades behind in the slow class. If they're the age of a fourth grader and have the skills of a first grader, put them in first grade.
Before you ask, yes, there are loads of kids who are four or more grades behind.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:53 PM (eyxn4)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 01, 2022 02:53 PM (kf6Ak)
With private and charter schools, those kids just get ejected.
Are we ready to let these kids completely leave the school system, or are we going to create alternative schools where it's basically juvenile detention with books?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (eyxn4)
What's wrong with juvenile detention with books? That's a great idea.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 01, 2022 02:53 PM (Qhnrt)
When I was a kid, the 21st Century was going to have Moon colonies and manned missions to Jupiter and flying cars and Dick Tracy two-way wrist TVs.
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 01, 2022 02:52 PM (aaGzp)
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Third world industrial development and the breaking of our high-value economic monopoly combined with internal cultural decay and rising central corruption?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:53 PM (WWh8n)
Rumours are that Mark will be taking the retirement package
Posted by: SMOD at July 01, 2022 02:53 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Moron Robbie is not enjoying the Amber Heard presidency at July 01, 2022 02:54 PM (etIVw)
You meant to say "roblem kids have the potential of being the some of the most talented , even as talented as whites"
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 02:54 PM (0jho/)
--painful truth of life
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 02:54 PM (llsW/)
Posted by: blake
The areas that elect libs are dyed in the wool libs. They are raised on the lib lies and never take the time to think for themselves.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 02:50 PM (5LoLC)
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I expect to see Raul Grijalva successfully reelected by a comfortable margin. No need to go rummage up votes in his district.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 01, 2022 02:54 PM (TNyrE)
Posted by: bonhomme
That's their parents' problems and the teachers who thought that teaching CRT, pedo grooming, and commie indoctrination were their prime directives.
Posted by: Comrade flounder,
No, actually they become your problem when they're hanging outside robbing and breaking shit. They're not just going to go home and reflect on their choices in life.
There may be only so much a public system can do but thinking that 100k of reprobates aren't going to turn to gangs and crime is kinda well, asking for disaster.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2022 02:54 PM (IEa8U)
You won't see this again, folks.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 01, 2022 02:54 PM (Y5qcH)
Before you ask, yes, there are loads of kids who are four or more grades behind.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:53 PM (eyxn4)
And don't mix English speakers, with non English speakers. Its one of the biggest hurdles education has in Calif.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 01, 2022 02:54 PM (oHd/0)
This would be better than what they currently have, where public schools (for them) are basically just juvenile detention without books.
That said, that’s a problem we won’t know how to solve until we see both the extent and who is affected. Currently, those children are completely abandoned by the educational system, assuming that the system is meant to educate.
By identifying who they are, we’ll have a much better idea of what to do to actually help them become educated.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 01, 2022 02:55 PM (U+Oxn)
Posted by: mikeski at July 01, 2022 02:55 PM (P1f+c)
How will programs like AZ's ESA affect property taxes in "good" school districts
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 01, 2022 02:55 PM (kf6Ak)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:53 PM (WWh8n)
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Turning health care into a political handout didn't help, either.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 02:55 PM (LvTSG)
There are no white problem children in your fantasy world? I went to school where we all knew the two black kids. There were problem kids and they were -- get this -- not the black kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 02:55 PM (llsW/)
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You literally described the majority of high school seniors who are graduating from urban schools in blue cities.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is not enjoying the Amber Heard presidency at July 01, 2022 02:55 PM (etIVw)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 01, 2022 02:55 PM (rzOL9)
Posted by: Blanco Basura
Thank you for that site.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 02:55 PM (5LoLC)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 01, 2022 02:53 PM (kf6Ak)
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School choice polls particularly well and is quite popular with a core Democrat demographic: black single mothers in the inner city. It turns out, unsurprisingly, that black mothers in the 'hood care about their kids, too, and if they could get them out of the gangland disaster of the inner city schools, a lot of them would do so.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:56 PM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Moron Robbie is not enjoying the Amber Heard presidency at July 01, 2022 02:56 PM (etIVw)
Posted by: Diogenes at July 01, 2022 02:46 PM (anj39)
Already signed by Gov. as I recall reading up yesterday.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 02:47 PM (nByzo)
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That's what I thought too but you can bet someone is going to file and injunction and screw it up.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 01, 2022 02:56 PM (anj39)
Does that mean public funds could go to private, religious schools? Separation of Church and State! REEEEEEE!!!
Posted by: Justices Sotomayor, Breyer and Kagen at July 01, 2022 02:56 PM (mQj5A)
Until then, I think the nearest one is NMMI in Roswell, NM.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 02:56 PM (Bd6X8)
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This is essentially how it works. Budgets depend on enrollment. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:50 PM (WWh8n)
Step 2 is your local school board. With declining enrollment, the local public school system will need to lay some people off (especially administrators) and perhaps close some schools. No one but the elected school board will do that, and only if you elect school board members who answer to taxpayers and are not a rubber stamp for the administration. Otherwise, you will have the perverse result of the revenues from property taxes staying flat or increasing while enrollment declines -- so the state money overall may go down, but the local money per pupil increases.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 01, 2022 02:56 PM (OYRm4)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 02:52 PM (Bd6X
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Yeah, forgot about them.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 02:56 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 01, 2022 02:56 PM (TgBWG)
when my lib co-worker got all spun up about the roe v wade decision, I had to tell her that she's been fed nothing but lies all this time.
and I had the receipts.
Posted by: kallisto at July 01, 2022 02:57 PM (dCxaZ)
"To crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women."
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 01, 2022 02:57 PM (Y5qcH)
A part of me agrees, but they're kids. Our side correctly states that kids aren't wise enough to make all sorts of decisions. They're not old enough for puberty blockers. They're not old enough to vote. Adults have to override kids' decisions all the time, because they're stupid and inexperienced.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:57 PM (eyxn4)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 01, 2022 02:56 PM (OYRm4)
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"Wait...you think we're getting laid off? No, sir. The kindergarten teacher can teach 40 kids before my salary gets slashed by a cent."
-DEI administrator
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 02:57 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Iris at July 01, 2022 02:57 PM (foa6+)
Posted by: kallisto at July 01, 2022 02:42 PM (dCxaZ)
Short answer: No.
10 voted no, 4 didn't vote, and 0 voted yes.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 01, 2022 02:57 PM (nRMeC)
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AL had a similar bill proposed in the last session. It was reported out by the relevant Senate committee, then died an ignominious death in a House committee.
That's what's been happening to meaningful school choice for years here.
AL has had zero Democrats in any statewide office for several years. Republicans hold super-majorities in both houses. No Republican officeholder expresses support for the AEA, but somehow the AEA always gets its bills passed.
How can this be? It's a mystery wrapped in a confuzzlement topped with a light dusting of fuck you.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 01, 2022 02:57 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:56 PM
This, you eeeevil white supremacist, is why school choice must die.
- Teachers' Unions Everywhere
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2022 02:57 PM (RkC6l)
Schools are for reading writin and rithmitic, not civilizing the errors of baby mommys and daddys
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 02:57 PM (0jho/)
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 02:54 PM (0jho/)
No, I said what I meant to say.
I live in the rural south. Most of our problem kids are white kids. But most from broken homes. Most need a firm hand and discipline that they've never received from the "brave, single mom".
But I've watched many a one succeed when given direction either in the military or in a jobs training program.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 01, 2022 02:57 PM (NSWcw)
A lot of those kids don't have parents. They're at grandma's house while mom is trying to get clean. Dad's been gone since the pregnancy test turned out positive.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:48 PM (eyxn4)
I am familiar with the phenomenon, having coached little league.
This is part of the reason we choose to home school. They can have the teaching to lowest common denominator. I won't be part of it, and until the teachers and unions can be turned back to their original role of teaching, there is not much I can do for those kids by fretting about their situation. I will continue welcoming them into BSA and little league and will attempt to provide a positive role model and feedback.
They would frown on me going into public schools and enforcing behavioral standards with an iron fist.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 02:58 PM (nByzo)
Tucson and Phoenix, then.
Posted by: blake
When you see a map at election time you'll find the Indian Reservations are deep dem.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 02:58 PM (5LoLC)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 01, 2022 02:58 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2022 02:58 PM (2JoB8)
See them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the pension fund managers.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2022 02:58 PM (RkC6l)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 01, 2022 02:54 PM (TNyrE)
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Gosar is our representative. Seems to be very solid.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 02:59 PM (5pTK/)
At the bottom left, there's a button: "Show Senate THIRD" (click that) and then you can use the dropdown in the lower left to show votes by party.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 01, 2022 02:59 PM (nRMeC)
Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at July 01, 2022 02:59 PM (zB/T/)
When I was a kid, the 21st Century was going to have Moon colonies and manned missions to Jupiter and flying cars and Dick Tracy two-way wrist TVs.
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!
Posted by: Captain Obvious
Well, you almost got the two-way wrist TVs. If you don't mind the FBI, NSA, and Chinese government (but I repeat myself twice) recording everything you say on your cellphone Zoom call.
Posted by: mikeski at July 01, 2022 02:59 PM (P1f+c)
There are no white problem children in your fantasy world? I went to school where we all knew the two black kids. There were problem kids and they were -- get this -- not the black kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 02:55 PM (llsW/)
You have to be fucking joking right?
Wth
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 02:59 PM (0jho/)
Sounds like a RINO infestation.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 02:59 PM (Bd6X8)
Posted by: kallisto at July 01, 2022 02:59 PM (dCxaZ)
The Teachers Unions actively work to destroy our future by corrupting both teachers and students.
Posted by: portlandon at July 01, 2022 02:40 PM
Public teachers are our friends and family. Neighbors and coworkers. We should be supporting them, and their attempts to broaden the educational opportunities of our children in line with the times.
I mean, what 10 year old boy DIDN'T want to go to the local gay bar during lunch and dance on stage with the drag queens? We've all been there, right?
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at July 01, 2022 03:00 PM (mQj5A)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 02:59 PM (5pTK/)
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And I live in Biggs' district. I consider myself quite blessed to have him as my rep.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 01, 2022 03:00 PM (TNyrE)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:00 PM (llsW/)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:56 PM (WWh8n)
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Even in deep blue cities like NYC the charter schools are slowly but surely making in-roads, despite the absolutely hysterical opposition of teachers' unions and their assorted shills and pimps. When given a choice, parents of all races -- including specifically blacks -- chose the charter schools over the hellscape of inner-city public schools every single time. It's evil and should be criminal to even operate a public school nowadays.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 01, 2022 03:00 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: blake
Does he refer to himself as Gosar the Gosarian? Could be a Moron, if so.
Posted by: mikeski at July 01, 2022 03:01 PM (P1f+c)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:01 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 02:45 PM (WWh8n)
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"Hey, those electric cattle cars, concentration camps, and executions aren't going to run themselves, you know ..."
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 01, 2022 03:01 PM (ZnbVj)
How would this work in a school choice system? If you can't get into your schools of choice, you have to go to the juvie detention school? Or would there be some sort of blackball system where you are forced to go there if you've been blackballed from enough of the other schools?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 03:01 PM (eyxn4)
With private and charter schools, those kids just get ejected.
Are we ready to let these kids completely leave the school system, or are we going to create alternative schools where it's basically juvenile detention with books?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (eyxn4)
Somewhere in line the student and or the family must intervene to have success.
School is not and never should have been a replacement for raising a child.
Kids drop out and still can likely get a BA from Goucher to write about hotdogs and sandwiches if that coding gig doesn't work out.
Posted by: Inogame at July 01, 2022 03:02 PM (53oGX)
He's on Gab, so you could ask him yourself. Might not get an answer, but you can ask.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 03:02 PM (Bd6X8)
Posted by: Diogenes at July 01, 2022 02:56 PM (anj39)
Tanned, rested and ready!
Posted by: Judge Kahananui at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM (La6gB)
No.
Someone needs to work the trades.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM (5pTK/)
Supreme Court lifts lower court rulings blocking Down syndrome abortion bans, other pro-life laws
Anna Navarro hardest hit (apparently)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 02:58 PM (5LoLC)
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O/T question to anyone who knows. What's the rationale behind extending suffrage to the Indian reservations? The reservations are semi-sovereign and get to set their own rules and are allowed to ignore a lot of laws. They're in their own political category and aren't fully subject to US law and it's always struck me as odd that they get included in the electoral vote. They're US citizens (like people who are from the Territories are), but not exactly in a state. Or is it part of the treaties that formed the reservations, or is it because they're inside the greater borders and so it all is treated universally or am I missing something or something else?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:01 PM (5pTK/)
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I am cautiously optimistic that the flawed copy of Lex Luthor is out in November, just due to the fact that FJB is so far underwater.
But after 2020, I will always have doubt on what will transpire at state wide elected offices.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM (TNyrE)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:00 PM (llsW/)
Isn't that an actual law now? They'd have to find it unconstitutional.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 03:02 PM (Bd6X
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Maybe we ask him about the Twinkie.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:04 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:00 PM (llsW/)
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Yep. It started with JFK allowing Federal employees to unionize, then became enshrined in law. A ruling that needs to go the way of Roe v. Wade.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:04 PM (Fao6g)
If it's truly a red wave Blake Masters is Kelly's most likely replacement.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 03:04 PM (Bd6X8)
Supreme Court lifts lower court rulings blocking Down syndrome abortion bans, other pro-life laws
Anna Navarro hardest hit (apparently)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM (fs1hN)'
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$5 says she spits on her mentally challenged relatives, cursing the day they were born.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 03:04 PM (LvTSG)
There may be only so much a public system can do but thinking that 100k of reprobates aren't going to turn to gangs and crime is kinda well, asking for disaster.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 01, 2022 02:54 PM (IEa8U)
Call me heartless, but if jail is what they are headed for, why spoil the whole bunch. Let them.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 03:04 PM (nByzo)
Sounds like a RINO infestation.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 02:59 PM
Dear Conservative Voter,
Like you, we are furious about the lack of educational choice in Alabama, and are determined to change it...but we need your help. With only three thirds of government under majority control, we desperately need to elect more Republicans to state office to keep fighting for the conservative priorities Alabama voters want! With a simple $50 donation, you can help make Alabama a true Republican state!
Posted by: AL GOP at July 01, 2022 03:05 PM (mQj5A)
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Has anyone pointed out to AOC that it was the Dodo who came up with the idea of a caucus race. And what happened to Dodos?
Posted by: Eeyore at July 01, 2022 03:05 PM (TgBWG)
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:05 PM (0jho/)
Are we ready to let these kids completely leave the school system, or are we going to create alternative schools where it's basically juvenile detention with books?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (eyxn4)
My wife teaches Special Ed students at a Catholic school, so you're a little bit mistaken.
Posted by: Clutch at July 01, 2022 03:05 PM (9UmRs)
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 01, 2022 03:05 PM (H8QX8)
Sounds like a RINO infestation.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 02:59 PM (Bd6X
Posted by: Miss Issippi - TRANSparent-Pronouns Who/Where at July 01, 2022 03:06 PM (sI15f)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 03:04 PM (Bd6X
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Well, hmm, can't fault him for his name. And, if he's conservative, that means he's not dragging our mutual moniker through the mud.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:06 PM (5pTK/)
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I hate that rubbish. The top 10% of high school graduates going on to college? Great. But most people don't benefit from college, except for the partying.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:06 PM (Fao6g)
No.
Someone needs to work the trades.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM (5pTK/)
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The only reason we have a bunch of bullshit degrees is to house the dummies who couldn't hack it in a real major.
I'd guess more than half of the students in college shouldn't be there.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 01, 2022 03:06 PM (DcKNO)
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 03:01 PM (eyxn4)
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No one knows how such a thing would work yet. I would imagine something of a cascade hierarchy.
1. School of your choice.
2. If you can't get into any of your choices, or get kicked out of them, or don't make a choice, you land in a government school
3. If you can't be managed at the government school because you're either chronically disruptive or violent or because you're mentally disabled, you get shunted into either a special-needs school or a reform school.
The problem in such a scheme would be in step #2, since it would require reforms within the public school system.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:06 PM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Clutch at July 01, 2022 03:05 PM (9UmRs)'
That's different than a student on a career criminal track.
Posted by: Miss Issippi - TRANSparent-Pronouns Who/Where at July 01, 2022 03:07 PM (sI15f)
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The public school system would still exist. If a student is rejected elsewhere or doesn't want to apply elsewhere, he goes to his local public school, just as at present.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 01, 2022 03:07 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Axeman at July 01, 2022 03:07 PM (krQz2)
Most American Indians are apolitical because they feel that both sides screw them over and you can't trust any politician. They vote Democrat because Democrats show up with ballots and cash.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:07 PM (llsW/)
Gosar is our representative. Seems to be very solid.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 02:59 PM (5pTK/)
He's also the Keeper of the Gate.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 01, 2022 03:07 PM (Qhnrt)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 03:04 PM (LvTSG)
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$10 says she spends less time and money helping out her mentally challenged relatives than the rest of her family.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:08 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 02:50 PM (5LoLC)
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Tucson and Phoenix, then.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 02:51 PM (5pTK/)
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And those smaller populations, Flagstaff (there's nearly a one-to-one correspondence between University towns and blue shitholes, natch) and the Reservations.
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 01, 2022 03:08 PM (ZnbVj)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 03:08 PM (Bd6X8)
Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM (2JoB
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It showed a lot more than that. The lockdowns showed that the public schools are subversion factories that are poisoning the students' minds while teaching them nothing of any value whatsoever.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:08 PM (WWh8n)
Posted by: D
This is true
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:08 PM (0jho/)
Posted by: MikeN at July 01, 2022 03:08 PM (Can9q)
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (eyxn4)
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Either, or something else. But if I have a class of 25 kids and one of them is making me unable to teach the rest because, he needs to be kicked out. Whether he's just out and thrust onto his parents or whether he goes to some sort of educational halfway house or something else, I don't know. If more states do what AZ is doing, we'll find out how to handle this because the states will probably try half a dozen different things and we'll figure out what works.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
new look at dignity canal employees? disruptive little gangsters can be welded into their lifetime jail cell and lwft to rot, live, or die eased singularly on their own family's dedication to keeping them fed and watered.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at July 01, 2022 03:08 PM (UgAdJ)
Posted by: Axeman at July 01, 2022 03:07 PM (krQz2)
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don't give them ideas!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:08 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:09 PM (llsW/)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Or frightful, that they do take them.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 01, 2022 03:09 PM (6dI0k)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 01, 2022 03:09 PM (0ocXn)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 01, 2022 03:09 PM (NSWcw)
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 01, 2022 03:06 PM (DcKNO)
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At least half.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:09 PM (Fao6g)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 03:08 PM (Bd6X
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Ray will have to tell you about that.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:09 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 01, 2022 02:58 PM (ppBhU)
You can be my Secretary of Education.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 03:09 PM (nByzo)
$15 says she spends no time or money on anyone but herself
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:09 PM (llsW/)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:09 PM (llsW/)
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"That's fine. It could work, but hear me out here. Massive wars need cannon fodder."
-Bill Kristol
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 03:10 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 03:04 PM (Bd6X
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GOPe Message Control has been furiously texting me messages about Masters for weeks. I hope he is the real deal, but these spam texts are testing my patience.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 01, 2022 03:10 PM (TNyrE)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:10 PM (llsW/)
Posted by: Mr. Right at July 01, 2022 03:10 PM (Rewwz)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:10 PM (llsW/)
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Yes. They are shockingly expensive.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:10 PM (WWh8n)
$15 says she spends no time or money on anyone but herself
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:09 PM (llsW/)
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"She, how do you say..., spends money on me."
-The Paolo
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 03:10 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: D
This is true
Posted by: Y5
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Hooah.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 01, 2022 03:10 PM (zYA/b)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:12 PM (llsW/)
School is not and never should have been a replacement for raising a child.
Posted by: Inogame at July 01, 2022 03:02 PM (53oGX)
This. I cannot be a surrogate parent for these kids, except in my limited sphere of influence. Schools are poorly equipped to do so, and the continued attempt to do so is why we are here.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 03:12 PM (nByzo)
Posted by: fd at July 01, 2022 03:12 PM (sn5EN)
I'm not sure how this relates to my comment. I'm talking about disruptive misbehaved children, not special education students.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 03:13 PM (eyxn4)
*eye roll*
/I denounce myself
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:13 PM (5pTK/)
Someone needs to work the trades.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM (5pTK/)
Amen. In the next five years I need trees felled, a new heating system, new shingles, new gutters and downspouts. No college education required, but real skills (and a dose of fearlessness) required.
What I do not need is a SJW harpie getting on my case about pronouns.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 01, 2022 03:13 PM (dQvv7)
You should ask about Indian reservations on one of your posts, it'd be a good topic.
Posted by: Clutch at July 01, 2022 03:14 PM (9UmRs)
Posted by: Axeman at July 01, 2022 03:07 PM
Have you seen the price of gas?!
Posted by: Andy and Brandi Tifa at July 01, 2022 03:14 PM (RkC6l)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 01, 2022 03:09 PM (NSWcw)
FIFY.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:14 PM (Fao6g)
Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2022 03:15 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:05 PM (0jho/)
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And unions (but I repeat yourself).
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 01, 2022 03:15 PM (ZnbVj)
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Harnessed to an enormous capstan, as in Conan the Barbarian.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 01, 2022 03:15 PM (aaGzp)
"Wait...you think we're getting laid off? No, sir. The kindergarten teacher can teach 40 kids before my salary gets slashed by a cent."
-DEI administrator
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 02:57 PM (LvTSG)
Welcome to your new office. Kinda small, but that's those damned deplorables screwing with the budget. We should get the desk and chair in about 2 weeks, right after the internet service gets hooked up.
Cell reception isn't so hot here, as a matter of fact, the steel walls kind of act like a Faraday Cage. IT Department is promising to work on that, should be about 2 weeks.
But we have free snacks in the breakroom. Sopackco gave us a raging deal on Charms.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 01, 2022 03:15 PM (n+4am)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:12 PM (llsW/)
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"I pay the schoolmaster, but 'tis the schoolboys that educate my son."
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 01, 2022 03:15 PM (iFTx/)
What I do not need is a SJW harpie getting on my case about pronouns.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 01, 2022 03:13 PM (dQvv7)
The two guys currently wiring up my solar are definitely not College grads... but they are doing a good job...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 01, 2022 03:15 PM (oHd/0)
It's a new reference point in creating a better system for students and good teachers.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 01, 2022 03:15 PM (6dI0k)
Welcome to your new office. Kinda small, but that's those damned deplorables screwing with the budget. We should get the desk and chair in about 2 weeks, right after the internet service gets hooked up.
Cell reception isn't so hot here, as a matter of fact, the steel walls kind of act like a Faraday Cage. IT Department is promising to work on that, should be about 2 weeks.
But we have free snacks in the breakroom. Sopackco gave us a raging deal on Charms.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 01, 2022 03:15 PM (n+4am)
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Well, ain't this place a geographical oddity. Two weeks from everywhere!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 03:16 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Clutch at July 01, 2022 03:05 PM (9UmRs)'
That's different than a student on a career criminal track.
Posted by: Miss Issippi - TRANSparent-Pronouns Who/Where at July 01, 2022 03:07 PM (sI15f)
My wife grew up going to various small Christian schools. They got the kids who were kicked out of public schools for "behavioral problems."
The idea that religious schools don't have to concern themselves with juvenile delinquents is a Teacher's Union lie. They actually take the hard cases and attempt to help reform them instead of warehousing them like public schools.
Posted by: 29Victor at July 01, 2022 03:16 PM (BJKQV)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:06 PM (WWh8n)
The system in AZ pre-reform already had vouchers for special-needs and underperforming schools. This extends it to all students, including the problem kids. I imagine, following the money, "special-needs" schools will develop to handle problem kids.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 03:16 PM (nByzo)
Posted by: ShainS
I agree but just think switching everybody to 401ks is an easier trade
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:17 PM (0jho/)
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 03:16 PM (nByzo)
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Very likely.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:17 PM (WWh8n)
Shitcan the woke assholes.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 01, 2022 03:17 PM (KATBx)
Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2022 03:15 PM (2JoB
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Unable to define a woman, she will recuse herself from all cases involving men or women, amirite?
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 01, 2022 03:17 PM (ZnbVj)
I guess that means you're not in Halifax Bank's target demographic:
https://fxn.ws/3OTRrng
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 03:17 PM (Bd6X8)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM (5pTK/)
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Yep. I quite enjoy doing the work of tradesmen - plumbing, electrical work, carpentry, etc. It's good honest work, and can't be outsourced to China or India. What we DON'T need are sociologists, who by and large are 1) stupid, 2) leftist, and 3) useless.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:17 PM (Fao6g)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:09 PM (llsW/)
$20 says that she is of the opinion that anyone who is an inconvenience to her should be eliminated.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 03:17 PM (GYIa4)
Hmmm.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 01, 2022 03:17 PM (Qhnrt)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:03 PM
The world needs ditch diggers, too!
Posted by: Judge Smails at July 01, 2022 03:18 PM (RkC6l)
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:18 PM (0jho/)
https://is.gd/NdYemO
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:18 PM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Braenyard at July 01, 2022 03:19 PM (6dI0k)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 03:16 PM (LvTSG)
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Bzzzt! Wrong answer: Office Space reference was expected.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:19 PM (5pTK/)
I'm not sure how this relates to my comment. I'm talking about disruptive misbehaved children, not special education students.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 03:13 PM (eyxn4)
Emotionally impaired is included in Special Ed. They are the problem children.
Posted by: Clutch at July 01, 2022 03:19 PM (9UmRs)
The two guys currently wiring up my solar are definitely not College grads... but they are doing a good job...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 01, 2022 03:15 PM
That's a good example of the fearlessness I mentioned. Do they have to keep the solar panels covered while they're doing the wiring? What if they don't?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 01, 2022 03:19 PM (dQvv7)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 03:16 PM (LvTSG)
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Bzzzt! Wrong answer: Office Space reference was expected.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:19 PM (5pTK/)
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I had a choice. I went Coen Brothers.
I regret nothing!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 01, 2022 03:19 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:17 PM (0jho/)
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And it improves mobility, and encourages self-reliance.
Defined contribution >> defined pension.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:19 PM (Fao6g)
It's common for people, even on our side, to say, when something is removed from the heavy hand of Government, "but how will freedom accomplish X?" First, we'll find out, now that the chance for creative solutions is suddenly there. Second, there's an implicit assumption in the question, that the Government version was actually accomplishing X in a meaningful way. Most likely, it was not.
Posted by: Splunge at July 01, 2022 03:19 PM (2hil/)
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:20 PM (0jho/)
Posted by: Andy and Brandi Tifa
>I had a buddy who used to stuff his pockets with sausages when we went camping, -- straight out hoarding like we have now with the Biden Administration. It made me sad. I have a feeling some folks will go hungry during this 4th of July BBQ season.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 01, 2022 03:20 PM (0ocXn)
There's potential for disaster.
Posted by: fd at July 01, 2022 03:20 PM (sn5EN)
Don't worry, it will just work itself out naturally.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 03:21 PM (Bd6X8)
https://is.gd/NdYemO
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:18 PM
Approved. Very Springy. And it reminds me that it's almost cocktail time.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2022 03:21 PM (RkC6l)
Defined contribution >> defined pension.
Posted by:
then we do not have guys that are too worried with protecting pensins to do the right thing
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:22 PM (0jho/)
https://is.gd/NdYemO
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:18 PM (WWh8n)
___________________
How's her kid sister doin'?
-Sniffy Joe B.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 01, 2022 03:22 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:19 PM (5pTK/)
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You get right on that. Mmmm yeaaah.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 01, 2022 03:22 PM (aaGzp)
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 01, 2022 03:23 PM (dQvv7)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 03:23 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2022 03:15 PM (2JoB
____________
Q: Why was Jumanji nominated and confirmed before Breyer checked out?
A: Because the Reds figure they're going to lose control of the Senate come November.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:23 PM (Fao6g)
Mrs. Splunge: I knew you were going to say that as soon as I saw the shirt.
Posted by: Splunge at July 01, 2022 03:24 PM (2hil/)
Very nice looking gal
Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2022 03:24 PM (2JoB8)
Because Biden said he wanted to stack the courts
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:24 PM (llsW/)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at
My parents used this threat when i was a problem kid in middle school. I laughed and continued on being an ass. I came home form football practice one day and there he was sitting at the table ready for a chat. I shaped right the F up from there on out.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 01, 2022 03:24 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: Dr. Bone
Was at the grocery store today. Prices up from last week and lots of empty spots.
Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2022 03:24 PM (r2IDy)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Congrats to both of you!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 03:24 PM (5LoLC)
It's common for people, even on our side, to say, when something is removed from the heavy hand of Government, "but how will freedom accomplish X?" First, we'll find out, now that the chance for creative solutions is suddenly there. Second, there's an implicit assumption in the question, that the Government version was actually accomplishing X in a meaningful way. Most likely, it was not.
Posted by: Splunge at July 01, 2022 03:19 PM (2hil/)
Yep, when a parent goes to an administrator to complain about teaching BS or wokeness or whatever, there is $$ signs attached to it, which is the central problem with all of government action, where there is no bottom line, no financial consequences to mismanagement. So in addition to provide means to find alternatives for their kids, it holds the existing system's feet to the fire and puts real teeth to parents threats of taking their kid and their dollars elsewhere.
Well done.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 03:25 PM (nByzo)
Posted by: AWFL sluts at July 01, 2022 03:25 PM (zL564)
https://is.gd/NdYemO
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:18 PM (WWh8n)
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What cathedral is that behind her? Looks familiar, like I've been there, but I can't place it. Got the flying buttress "spider legs" of Notre Dame, but that's not ND.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 01, 2022 03:25 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Splunge at July 01, 2022 03:24 PM (2hil/)
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Need to work in the geographical oddity line somehow and see what Mrs. Splunge says.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:25 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 03:24 PM (5LoLC)
I may have been lying a bit about the stress thing.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 03:25 PM (GYIa4)
So it is all sex all day now?
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:26 PM (0jho/)
https://is.gd/NdYemO
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:18 PM
Approved. Very Springy. And it reminds me that it's almost cocktail time.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2022 03:21 PM (RkC6l)
Nice dress, too. I want to get one for the wife.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 03:26 PM (nByzo)
I'm not sure how this relates to my comment. I'm talking about disruptive misbehaved children, not special education students.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 03:13 PM (eyxn4)
Emotionally impaired is included in Special Ed. They are the problem children.
Posted by: Clutch at July 01, 2022 03:19 PM (9UmRs
Let's call them what they are; bad fucking apples. Either sit up and learn or you're out.
You can't save them all.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 01, 2022 03:26 PM (Qhnrt)
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:26 PM (0jho/)
I'm guessing you've never been married.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 03:26 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 01, 2022 03:20 PM (0ocXn)
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Had he ever heard of Timothy Treadwell?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:26 PM (Fao6g)
I may have been lying a bit about the stress thing.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
heh... I wondered if that should have had a /sarc tag!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 03:27 PM (5LoLC)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 01, 2022 03:27 PM (UuD2k)
Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2022 03:15 PM (2JoB
I wonder how she and Judge Thomas will get along. I bet she makes him sick.
Posted by: Miss Issippi - TRANSparent-Pronouns Who/Where at July 01, 2022 03:27 PM (sI15f)
https://is.gd/NdYemO
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:18 PM (WWh8n)
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That looks like the chick who was doing the "follow me on instagram while I travel around the world and take pic" thing.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 01, 2022 03:28 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:26 PM (0jho/)
I'm guessing you've never been married.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 03:26 PM (GYIa4)
Yeah, and forget about the sammiches, too.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 03:28 PM (nByzo)
Posted by: torabora at July 01, 2022 03:28 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Now that right there is funny!
I like it!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 03:28 PM (5LoLC)
Posted by: W at July 01, 2022 03:28 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: I used to hav
Then why did she quit if not for more sex?
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:28 PM (0jho/)
Exactly. It is not true that EVERY child needs or should get an education. Some you just cannot reach. My guess is that most of the ones that are tough to reach right now COULD be but some never will. And that's acceptable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:29 PM (llsW/)
Posted by: kraken at July 01, 2022 03:30 PM (Vr12I)
Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2022 03:30 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: torabora at July 01, 2022 03:30 PM (Y274z)
No Child Left Behind!
Big difference between that and throwing overboard
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:30 PM (0jho/)
Posted by: Worst Camping Buddy in the World at July 01, 2022 03:30 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:28 PM (0jho/)
Her CEO was more annoying than her husband.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 03:30 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 01, 2022 03:24 PM
Heh. When I was a very little RMBS, an aunt would threaten to ship me off to West Point when I misbehaved.
*looks at ring*
*laughs*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2022 03:30 PM (RkC6l)
There's audio of he and his lady friend being mauled. Don't listen to it if you ever run across it. It's horrible.
Interestingly, they knew about this bear and knew it was bad news.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 03:30 PM (eyxn4)
Posted by: torabora
Yes, and is completely a eGOP minion.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 03:31 PM (5LoLC)
Posted by: kraken at July 01, 2022 03:31 PM (Vr12I)
1 I am never kneeling
2 I'm married, I am not afraid of anything, anymore
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:32 PM (0jho/)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:29 PM (llsW/)
And some of that is because there are no real consequences of their behavior. It may take a few years to sink in but some of them might wake up.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 03:32 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 03:32 PM (eyxn4)
Posted by: torabora at July 01, 2022 03:30 PM (Y274z)
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No, that was the lefty SoS Katie Hobbs. Ducey just sat back and nodded in approval, when needed.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 01, 2022 03:32 PM (TNyrE)
Posted by: kraken at July 01, 2022 03:31 PM (Vr12I)
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What is AoSHQ without a few non-sequiturs?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 01, 2022 03:32 PM (aaGzp)
Posted by: Infidel
>My buddy used to wander around the woods wondering why the coyotes, mountain lions and bears were following him. I never saw him eat all of those sausages because we never ran out of booze.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 01, 2022 03:32 PM (0ocXn)
Little pop up T-storm was heading this way but fell apart or passed by,
Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2022 03:30 PM
Check radar again. It's the slowest moving storm I've seen in ages. It may pass south of us, but I expect rain any minute.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 01, 2022 03:32 PM (dQvv7)
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:32 PM (0jho/)
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at July 01, 2022 03:33 PM (YQ4mh)
Posted by: kraken at July 01, 2022 03:30 PM (Vr12I)
The spirit of the Sri Lankan people is broken.
Haven't they been hanging politicians?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 03:33 PM (GYIa4)
There's audio of he and his lady friend being mauled. Don't listen to it if you ever run across it. It's horrible.
Interestingly, they knew about this bear and knew it was bad news.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 03:30 PM (eyxn4)
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I don't believe it's ever been made public, which is just as well.
Camping with sausages in your pockets is a good way to re-enact Treadwell's demise.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:33 PM (Fao6g)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:33 PM (Fao6g)
It's out there, and it is horrible.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 03:35 PM (nByzo)
Posted by: I used to hav
Thar is what she thought
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:32 PM (0jho/)
Well...we've been married for a while so I reckon she knows me pretty well.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 03:35 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:29 PM (llsW/)
And some of that is because there are no real consequences of their behavior. It may take a few years to sink in but some of them might wake up.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 03:32 PM (GYIa4)
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Some people's sole contribution to society is to serve as an example to others.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:35 PM (Fao6g)
Camping with sausages in your pockets is a good way to re-enact Treadwell's demise.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:33 PM
Some people just don't understand that Outside is always trying to kill you.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2022 03:35 PM (RkC6l)
Posted by: torabora
Yes, and is completely a eGOP minion.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 01, 2022 03:31 PM (5LoLC)
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Also complicit is that asshat AG Brnovich, whom I will be voting against in the Republican Senate primary to oust that other asshat Kelly.
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 01, 2022 03:35 PM (ta/y5)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:33 PM (Fao6g)
It's out there, and it is horrible.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 03:35 PM (nByzo)
___________
(shudders)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:36 PM (Fao6g)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:36 PM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at July 01, 2022 03:36 PM (5HBd1)
Speaking of children with special needs...
NYC Angry Mom @angrybklynmom
Just thought you would like to know that I just removed my child from a private special needs service because they are still requiring masks, even though masks are not required in any other aspect of our lives right now.
So honestly, I don't really give a shit about the "my body, my choice" LARPers.
You're not going to believe this, but I just called an alternative for this service, and they are still virtual. Special education students have been completely abandoned by the private and public sector. They are already a desperate population who has been routinely ignored.
https://bit.ly/3yd03hV
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 01, 2022 03:36 PM (Do5/p)
It is funny that some guy that was part of a secret spy training thing got eaten by a bear
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:37 PM (0jho/)
Posted by: kraken at July 01, 2022 03:38 PM (Vr12I)
Posted by: Y5 at July 01, 2022 03:38 PM (0jho/)
I see that farmers are blocking highways in Holland after the government handed down dictates that farmers must reduce their nitrogen usage between 30-70%, causing many farms to shut down.
Doesn't seem like a big deal, but Holland is the world's 5th largest exporter of food.
The regulatory changes are expected to close more than 15,000 farming operations by 2030.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 01, 2022 03:38 PM (NSWcw)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 01, 2022 03:39 PM (lKAqb)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at
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My parents used this threat when i was a problem kid in middle school. I laughed and continued on being an ass. I came home form football practice one day and there he was sitting at the table ready for a chat. I shaped right the F up from there on out.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 01, 2022
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My father used to pull that on me all the time. "Gulf Coast Military Academy," blah blah blah. Then I found out that they only took boys up to age 12, and I was 14 at the time. It gave me the greatest pleasure of my young life to point the fact out to him.
Yeah, I lost my allowance that week, but it was worth it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 01, 2022 03:39 PM (txdEq)
Doesn't seem like a big deal, but Holland is the world's 5th largest exporter of food.
The regulatory changes are expected to close more than 15,000 farming operations by 2030.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 01, 2022 03:38 PM
How'd that work out in Sri Lanka?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2022 03:39 PM (RkC6l)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 01, 2022 03:38 PM (NSWcw)
I expect they'll be going to the pitchforks before then.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 03:39 PM (nByzo)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:39 PM (llsW/)
Posted by: torabora
what did he care as long as he remained Lord of his own little fiefdom?
Posted by: kallisto at July 01, 2022 03:39 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Erik In Texas at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM (U3LUP)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:36 PM (WWh8n)
Not his biggest fan, nope. It's all a bit one sided but I imagine he's probably mostly right about Seagal.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM (QzpS1)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 01, 2022 03:39 PM (lKAqb)
So the mountain lion will let me get up and run a little ways before pouncing? Well, that sucks.
Posted by: kraken at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM (Vr12I)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM (lKAqb)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM (8GBH4)
Posted by: kraken
All right which one of you released the Kraken?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:39 PM (llsW/)
*points at the dog*
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM (nByzo)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM (llsW/)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 01, 2022 03:41 PM (zYA/b)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 01, 2022 03:39 PM (lKAqb)
So the mountain lion will let me get up and run a little ways before pouncing? Well, that sucks.
Posted by: kraken at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM (Vr12I)
It'll "disinterestedly" lick its paws and then just as you make a break for it come down on you again.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 01, 2022 03:41 PM (b2nrj)
Posted by: kraken at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM
This is what .44 magnum revolvers are for.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2022 03:41 PM (RkC6l)
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at July 01, 2022 03:33 PM (YQ4mh)
Need to win the State senate
Posted by: 7man at July 01, 2022 03:41 PM (qwO6y)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at July 01, 2022 03:36 PM (5HBd1)
We can only hope. The future is looking rather iffy at this point.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 01, 2022 03:41 PM (Qhnrt)
Several mob guys point out that his early films were largely mob funded. They got their hooks into him early and took hold.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 03:41 PM (llsW/)
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 01, 2022 03:41 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: banana Dream at July 01, 2022 03:42 PM (QzpS1)
It is because of the treaties. Any crime comitted on the Reservation by a non native is a Federal crime because the State has no jurisdiction but the Tribe can't punish non Native, other than expelling.
Posted by: AZ Native at July 01, 2022 03:42 PM (TZd1U)
A: Because the Reds figure they're going to lose control of the Senate come November.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 01, 2022 03:23 PM (Fao6g)
They needed to keep Breyer around to do some leaking.
Posted by: ... at July 01, 2022 03:42 PM (dscaa)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:42 PM (WWh8n)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at July 01, 2022 03:42 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at July 01, 2022 03:43 PM (5HBd1)
Posted by: AZ Native at July 01, 2022 03:42 PM (TZd1U)
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Thanks! I assumed it was probably treaty-related, but it's not something I've ever studied.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 01, 2022 03:43 PM (WWh8n)
Posted by: kraken at July 01, 2022 03:43 PM (Vr12I)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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That's what they want.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 01, 2022 03:41 PM (zYA/b)
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This. And so much so that when they can't get riots organically, they pay professional agitators and criminals to riot on command.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 01, 2022 03:44 PM (iFTx/)
I sure could have used this sending my kids thru Catholic school.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM
Me, too. 100% of my tax dollars supported the public schools but I still had to pay 100% of the CS tuition.
The lefties think that's fair.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 01, 2022 03:44 PM (dQvv7)
It is because of the treaties. Any crime comitted on the Reservation by a non native is a Federal crime because the State has no jurisdiction but the Tribe can't punish non Native, other than expelling.
Posted by: AZ Native
Not in OK anymore thanks to SCOTUS this week. That mcGirt ruling a couple years ago really fucked us up in that regard. Made essential half the state tribal land. State can now try non natives for crimes on native land
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 01, 2022 03:44 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 01, 2022 03:39 PM (lKAqb)
So the mountain lion will let me get up and run a little ways before pouncing? Well, that sucks.
Posted by: kraken at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM (Vr12I)
It'll "disinterestedly" lick its paws and then just as you make a break for it come down on you again.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 01, 2022 03:41 PM (b2nrj
This is how we should figuratively treat dems.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 01, 2022 03:44 PM (Qhnrt)
The last time something like this happened it was to Google cars that recreated the marching band scene from Animal House, when a number of them tried to turn down a dead end alley at the same time and then couldn't get out.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at July 01, 2022 03:44 PM (VLMLh)
Maybe pay Mike Rowe* to come talk to auditoriums full of kids and give them a different perspective, remind them that blue collar work is honourable, good, and rewarding, and we really really need qualified workers who can make, build, and repair things because without that, our society decays, breaks down, and dies.
(* Mike's actually really good at this.)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 01, 2022 03:44 PM (nRMeC)
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If this isn't a clear indicator that the green new deal is suicidal, I don't know what is. It wouldn't surprise me if most of the Netherland's politicians are childless. Why aren't the Dutch hanging them from lampposts? How about the new 'Dutch' from the middle-east? Where do they think their food will come from?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 01, 2022 03:45 PM (fs1hN)
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Holland is *tiny*. I looked it up yesterday, and IIRC their geographical area is about half the size of the Greater Los Angeles Metro Area (which is made up of LA and the three surrounding counties).
Posted by: junior at July 01, 2022 03:46 PM (1vGL/)
Posted by: Erik In Texas at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM (U3LUP)
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Nonsense. You'll be perfectly free to continue sending your children to a failing public school where they learn nothing of value. And I fully support that freedom for you.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 01, 2022 03:46 PM (sWM8x)
__________________________
We have our own tests to run, shhhh!
-DHS/FBI/CIA
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 01, 2022 03:47 PM (fs1hN)
You mean you weren't impressed by his mastery of the nunchaku? /s
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 01, 2022 03:48 PM (Bd6X8)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at July 01, 2022 03:44 PM (VLMLh)
First question I'd ask the designers: "Dining Philosopher's Problem"? http://tinyurl.com/3fmuemf7
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 01, 2022 03:48 PM (nRMeC)
Not in OK anymore thanks to SCOTUS this week. That mcGirt ruling a couple years ago really fucked us up in that regard. Made essential half the state tribal land. State can now try non natives for crimes on native land
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 01, 2022 03:44 PM (MGB5H
The OK indians have a good deal going for them right now but they keep trying to fuck it up.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 01, 2022 03:49 PM (Qhnrt)
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Lots of curious legal and regulatory changes like this are occurring all over the world. I read an article yesterday that posited a Western effort to create a worldwide food shortage that would be blamed on Pootie to justify WWIII. Just a couple of years ago, this would have sounded crazy to me. Now, not so much.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 01, 2022 03:52 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at July 01, 2022 03:44 PM (VLMLh)
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Elon Musk hacked them (SWIDT?).
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 01, 2022 03:53 PM (ta/y5)
Posted by: kraken
>Whether I'm being rag-dolled by the neck by a cat or disemboweled by a bear is a discussion for first responders and the coroner.
This is why I have .45-70 strapped on my shoulder or a .357 magnum in my fag bag.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 01, 2022 03:53 PM (0ocXn)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2022 02:48 PM (llsW/)
I can imagine some of the counties offering a rebate on property tax for home schoolers if the kids stay up to grade testing.
That is what could be done on the county level alone
Posted by: Kindltot at July 01, 2022 03:54 PM (xhaym)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 01, 2022 03:39
PM (RkC6l)
Sri Lanka solved their ocean eutrophication and met their general CO2 emission guidelines up until the diesel powered pumps stopped and the sewage started running into the streams and the ocean, and the populace started burning government buildings and the houses of government officials.
So kind of a wash
Posted by: Kindltot at July 01, 2022 04:00 PM (xhaym)
tldr: Divorce the money from the government and then we'll have the start of a good thing.
Posted by: soulpile at July 01, 2022 04:07 PM (hiX0r)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 01, 2022 02:51 PM (AutJR)
Read your comment and just spit valuable (but replaceable)spirits all over the computer screen ....what you say is wickedly true and funny as hell.
Your comment could be called the Karl Rove Doctrine.
Posted by: Voter theater. at July 01, 2022 04:51 PM (CUP/i)
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2022 02:44 PM (eyxn4)
Our public school had that - run by tough guys who took no nonsense. I had to try and give them a very basic course of Latin which once we adjusted our methods they liked quite a bit - it was like they hadn't really known that others spoke different languages.
If you need a school for problem kids, someone can create one using those credits and possibly claw some back into getting some education.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 01, 2022 04:54 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Erik In Texas at July 01, 2022 03:40 PM (U3LUP)
That ship has sailed, Erik. Public schools as schools are dead and have been for a while. The heartwood is dead and you have to chop down the deadwood and plant some saplings for the future.
Once a system has rejected its premises, you can't undo it, it needs to be replaced.
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