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14 Elementary School Students and One Teacher Dead in School Shooting Spree In Texas
Shooter Exchanged Gunfire With Border Patrol Agents Before Barricading Himself Inside School, But Was US Citizen

The monster who did this is also dead. He was a student at a local high school.

Fourteen students and a teacher are dead after a shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, according to Gov. Greg Abbott.

The 18-year-old suspect, a student at Uvalde High School, is also dead, he said.

"He shot and killed horrifically and incomprehensibly 14 students and killed a teacher," Abbott said during an unrelated press briefing.

The suspect also allegedly shot his grandmother before entering the school and again opening fire, Abbott said. He did not say anything further about her condition.

Abbott said the shooter had a handgun and also possibly a rifle.

Awful. Just absolutely horrifying.

Multiple responsible people in these schools should be armed.

The shooter's name is, I'm told, Salvador Romas, so: White Hispanic Alert.

And we're going to have to crack down on that Disinformation that led him to this.

The Daily Mail says "Salvador Roma."

Prior to his arrest the suspect exchanged gunfire with border patrol agents before barricading himself in the school

Abbott says he's a US citizen. Not sure why he would be in a gun battle with the border patrol. Maybe he was running drugs.

There will be no presidential visits to the school.

From Jane D'oh, here are some grabs from this animal's social media, before it got deleted.

BTW, why do they delete the social media for these guys? This is newsworthy. All deleting this stuff does is give the corrupt corporate leftwing media an unearned priority in exploiting this stuff. They get access to it and can drip it out for profit.

Delete it eventually -- you don't want these guys to have online shrines to them -- but in the period of newsworthiness, let people research these animals.

Update: The killer was a murder suspect and there was a BOLO for his truck. The shootout with border patrol might have just been a chance encounter, with them spotting the truck they had the BOLO for.

I imagine he was a murder suspect in his grandmother's murder but who knows, maybe he killed someone else.

Update: His purported Instagram was discovered.

Posted by: Ace at 05:18 PM




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1 Hi all

Posted by: Ciampino at May 24, 2022 05:19 PM (qfLjt)

2 Figures

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 24, 2022 05:19 PM (YynYJ)

3 Hey, numero uno.

Posted by: Ciampino at May 24, 2022 05:19 PM (qfLjt)

4 Letting these animals in to our country is an act of love.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 24, 2022 05:19 PM (wmDcS)

5 This is just sick.

Posted by: Infidel at May 24, 2022 05:20 PM (E0NVW)

6 How long had the FBI been watching him?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 24, 2022 05:20 PM (4OVxK)

7 God have mercy on their souls.

Posted by: aelfheld at May 24, 2022 05:21 PM (Zy9Yy)

8 There are a bunch of different stories out there.. One is he killed his Grandmother then went to the school and shot the kids and police chased him.. The other is Border patrol chased him. Another says he was an American citizen and his name is Ramos

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 05:21 PM (bs+z0)

9 I hear the streets of Mexico are a little safer than they were 10 years ago. If that is true, good for Mexico. Because for damn sure, the streets of Texas are more dangerous than they were 10 years ago.

I wonder, how does that math balance?

Posted by: unknown at May 24, 2022 05:21 PM (wKi1F)

10 Glad you got #1 but kinda sad at the same time.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at May 24, 2022 05:21 PM (ytSiK)

11 6 How long had the FBI been watching him?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 24, 2022 05:20 PM (4OVxK)

-----

It's incredible the number of people they "know about" but never do anything to deal with them.

FBI = worthless

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 24, 2022 05:21 PM (DcKNO)

12 As I said below, why would they let him get near the school, if they were chasing him? They should've shot him before he set foot near the school.

Posted by: spypeach at May 24, 2022 05:21 PM (eWCZe)

13 Just sickening and heartbreaking. Those poor, poor children and their devastated families. Horrible.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 24, 2022 05:22 PM (TY4FX)

14 Here's the perp:

Jack Posobiec retweeted @IntelDoge with the shooter's screenshot that was just nuked.

https://tinyurl.com/2p9235rv

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:22 PM (ptqGC)

15 Was he vaccinated?

Posted by: Karen at May 24, 2022 05:22 PM (jYQlA)

16 And we already have calls for gun control. Great so those buggers can come across our borders armed and shoot us willy nilly with no repercussions?

Posted by: Ciampino at May 24, 2022 05:22 PM (qfLjt)

17 MKUltra is real and is not just some throw away joke line.

Sleepers are being awakened.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2022 05:22 PM (d81QO)

18 In our little town,north of Uvalde, there are signs everywhere in the school complex saying the teachers are armed. My grands go to private schools in Houston with Houston cops on duty all day. The point is, evil walks among us, we must defend the innocent. God bless the families in Uvalde.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 24, 2022 05:22 PM (QZ/dC)

19 Very sad for the families of the victims.

Awful.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 24, 2022 05:22 PM (DcKNO)

20 A sensible, sane country would round 'em ALL up and send 'em back. Of course, a sensible sane country would NEVER HAVE LET THEM IN TO START WITH.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 24, 2022 05:22 PM (txdEq)

21 Expect more shootings as we move to election time.

Gun up, carry, head on a swivel and train.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 24, 2022 05:22 PM (XvPQV)

22 Posted by: spypeach at May 24, 2022 05:21 PM (eWCZe)

I agree.. Perhaps they weren't chasing him and responded to the call... Looks like he did the killing...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 05:23 PM (bs+z0)

23 Dreamer?

Gah, this is horrifying.

Posted by: Lizzy's phone at May 24, 2022 05:23 PM (7obMn)

24 He was reacting to Tucker Carlson and Trump, obvs. The only solution is to elect Beto and give up guns.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 05:23 PM (t3/qz)

25 Sickening.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2022 05:23 PM (r5kJO)

26 Ramos looks like a psycho.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 24, 2022 05:23 PM (DcKNO)

27 As numerous people have commented after shootings we should makes these monsters into media "stars". Then we get copycat killings. NY Post is still covering the Buffalo shooter. Just report the facts, lock the evil perp up and then shut up about it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (NZIB7)

28 Those poor babies and their teacher. God bless their souls.

The guy even LOOKS evil.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (ptqGC)

29 >>Expect more shootings as we move to election time.


You don't say?

Posted by: Chicago at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (4lTHC)

30 All teachers, who wish it, should be armed while on school grounds.

Gun free zones are just asking for problems like this one.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (56+8G)

31 Give it 24h.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (t3/qz)

32 Sounds like a school shooter who almost got tagged by the cops after killing his grandmother.

Most likely he planned to kill her, go to the elementary school and wreak havoc, and then kill himself.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (QRdjz)

33 If the police were chasing this guy, where were they during the shooting?

How did this guy enter the school? Most schools now have locked exterior doors even during the school day.

Was there a SRO? If so, where was he/she? Were they armed?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (eyxn4)

34 Calling it now: when he turns out to be some flavor of communist, we'll never hear about it again.

The Buffalo shooter has already vanished, after it v became clear he was a nutty leftist rather than a "Republican".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (bW8dp)

35 You can't expect the left to steal the election in November without getting some 'support' ops.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (0OP+5)

36 >>Expect more shootings as we move to election time.


Roger that.

Posted by: Philly at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (4lTHC)

37 2 As I said below, why would they let him get near the school, if they were chasing him? They should've shot him before he set foot near the school.
Posted by: spypeach at May 24, 2022 05:21 PM (eWCZe)

A "chase" implies that he was in front, they were behind. So they didn't have a lot of control over where he went.

I suspect that Border Control agents were involved because that close to the border, there are more of them around than any other LEO's.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (trdmm)

38 28 Those poor babies and their teacher. God bless their souls.

The guy even LOOKS evil.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (ptqGC)

RIP... What a tragedy... Can they whiten his face a bit like they did Zimmerman ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 05:25 PM (bs+z0)

39 I smell a Dreamer.

Posted by: Carta Verde at May 24, 2022 05:25 PM (1dzqn)

40 A Gypsy??

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at May 24, 2022 05:25 PM (yikp0)

41 Infuriating.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2022 05:25 PM (r5kJO)

42 Doesn’t fit the narrative.

Posted by: Squid at May 24, 2022 05:25 PM (cGD1P)

43 Border patrol who we hear isn't looking for anyone is In a gun battle with a nobody?

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2022 05:25 PM (2JoB8)

44 Tranny shot because kids refused grooming.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 24, 2022 05:26 PM (Iz2Z7)

45 >>I smell a Dreamer.


Diversity is our strength.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2022 05:26 PM (4lTHC)

46 The hispanic demographics are shifting republican, so it only stands to reason they will get more violent.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 05:26 PM (t3/qz)

47 >>>26 Ramos looks like a psycho.


someone said he looks like Richard Ramirez aka the Night Stalker.

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2022 05:26 PM (AkbRF)

48

Vladimir Putin by way of Drumpf caused yet another violent attack with guns.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at May 24, 2022 05:26 PM (96ih4)

49 I agree.. Perhaps they weren't chasing him and responded to the call... Looks like he did the killing...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 05:23 PM (bs+z0)

24 hour rule. It's just so heartbreaking. I wish every school had armed people. I just can't imagine the heartache these families are going through, and how terrified those poor kids must have been We are surrounded by evil.

Posted by: spypeach at May 24, 2022 05:26 PM (eWCZe)

50 43 Border patrol who we hear isn't looking for anyone is In a gun battle with a nobody?
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2022 05:25 PM (2JoB

I'm doubting the Border patrol... More likely local cops.... "They" also said he was American..... Too many stories out there

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 05:27 PM (bs+z0)

51 Just visited Uvalde around a month ago. It is a war zone. The people there are under siege on a good day.

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 05:27 PM (Vr12I)

52 Just ordered another gun and an ankle holster - things going to get worse I'm afraid.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 24, 2022 05:27 PM (QZ/dC)

53 >>The hispanic demographics are shifting republican, so it only stands to reason they will get more violent.


It's only a matter of time before they are the most rabid of the White Supremecists.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2022 05:27 PM (4lTHC)

54 9 I hear the streets of Mexico are a little safer than they were 10 years ago. If that is true, good for Mexico. Because for damn sure, the streets of Texas are more dangerous than they were 10 years ago.

I wonder, how does that math balance?
Posted by: unknown at May 24, 2022 05:21 PM (wKi1F)

If the street of Mexico are a little safer, it's for the same reason that the streets of Las Vegas were safe when the Mob ran it. The cartels don't like people shooting up their home turf, and they don't need to bother with any trial nonsens when someone pisses them off.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2022 05:27 PM (trdmm)

55 someone said he looks like Richard Ramirez aka the Night Stalker.
Posted by: ace at May 24, 2022 05:26 PM (AkbRF)

------

That's exactly who he looks like.

Jane D'Oh linked his picture.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 24, 2022 05:27 PM (DcKNO)

56 How did he get in? You can't just walk into elementary schools these days. They're locked down. Terrible

Posted by: brak at May 24, 2022 05:27 PM (j5Tg0)

57 45 >> Diversity is our strength.

I thought ignorance was strength.

Posted by: Carta Verde at May 24, 2022 05:27 PM (1dzqn)

58 Matthew McConahay’s hometown.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2022 05:28 PM (r5kJO)

59 BTW, why do they delete the social media for these guys?





Because if people can see the original posts, they can't as easily be swayed by media disinformation.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2022 05:28 PM (5kI0z)

60 33 If the police were chasing this guy, where were they during the shooting?

Taking up positions and waiting for reinforcements.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 05:28 PM (t3/qz)

61 Maybe a radical leftist who targeted Border Patrol.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2022 05:28 PM (xPl2J)

62 If the police were chasing this guy, where were they during the shooting?

How did this guy enter the school? Most schools now have locked exterior doors even during the school day.

Was there a SRO? If so, where was he/she? Were they armed?
==
Good questions.

If he was a student there he probably had a way in. Knew which door was open, or had a key card etc.

Once in, its doesn't take long.

Posted by: sad to say at May 24, 2022 05:28 PM (EZUYT)

63 if we just had an open borders policy and legalized the dreamers, this could all have been avoided

Posted by: Jimbo jones at May 24, 2022 05:28 PM (g19P3)

64 40 A Gypsy??
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at May 24, 2022 05:25 PM (yikp0)

And tramps and thieves

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 24, 2022 05:28 PM (XvPQV)

65 >>If the police were chasing this guy, where were they during the shooting?


In a 23 car pileup if 1970s Hollywoodis to be believed.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2022 05:29 PM (4lTHC)

66 Just visited Uvalde around a month ago. It is a war zone. The people there are under siege on a good day.

yes it gets worse every year

Posted by: brak at May 24, 2022 05:29 PM (j5Tg0)

67 There are DPS, Texas Guard, Border Patrol Sheriff's Department and volunteers stationed in Uvalde constantly. Every hotel in full to capacity with them.

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 05:29 PM (Vr12I)

68 I expect the people in the valley are going to respond to the democrats who made their home a war zone appropriately.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2022 05:29 PM (5kI0z)

69 There are DPS, Texas Guard, Border Patrol Sheriff's Department and volunteers stationed in Uvalde constantly. Every hotel in full to capacity with them.
==
Be interested in finding out where the guns came from. Not his abuela. Fast and furious guns? any takers?

Posted by: sad to say at May 24, 2022 05:30 PM (EZUYT)

70 Just visited Uvalde around a month ago. It is a war zone. The people there are under siege on a good day.

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 05:27 PM (Vr12I)


Why in the hell didn't the school have a security guard on duty???

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:30 PM (ptqGC)

71 Alt account. @farrahiness

Mexican Tranny confirmed.

TikTok has been nuked.

Posted by: Heavy Squats at May 24, 2022 05:31 PM (T/BKS)

72 https://tinyurl.com/2p9235rv

There's some high dollar equipment in that picture further down. Daniel Defense rifle with an Eotech sight. Just noting, not saying whether it means anything.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2022 05:31 PM (apYeC)

73 >>>BTW, why do they delete the social media for these guys?

They do not want the general public to note the obvious - the perps should already be in an institution for the criminally insane. They are after freedom (and guns) so they don't want anyone to know what the real problem is .

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2022 05:31 PM (yj6ag)

74 They dump illegals in the town, and all the towns around there, and the locals have to deal with it. All the ranchers are packing serious firepower.

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 05:31 PM (Vr12I)

75 68 I expect the people in the valley are going to respond to the democrats who made their home a war zone appropriately.

____________

Primary happening today. Not sure whether this was in that district, but supposedly the contest pits a moderate communist against a radical communist.

So, lose-lose, you know.

Posted by: Carta Verde at May 24, 2022 05:31 PM (1dzqn)

76 I just looked at that shooters picture, is he transitioning? Look at those full lips and perfect eyebrows. Very strange looking dude?

Posted by: spypeach at May 24, 2022 05:31 PM (eWCZe)

77 > A "chase" implies that he was in front, they were behind. So they didn't have a lot of control over where he went.

When cops are in a car chase behind a maniac heading for a school, it's common practice to PIT them. When cops are in a foot chase behind a felon with a gun heading to a crowded area with lots of potential victims, it's somewhat common practice to start shooting them.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 05:31 PM (eyxn4)

78 >>Mexican Tranny confirmed.


Ay! Dios Mio

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2022 05:31 PM (4lTHC)

79 The “resource officer” was watching porn on his phone.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2022 05:31 PM (r5kJO)

80 71 Alt account. @farrahiness

Mexican Tranny confirmed.

TikTok has been nuked.


I was just coming to say this!

he is a her (ish)

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 24, 2022 05:32 PM (w0NJk)

81 Great scheduling. Geraldo is on The Five.

He's anti-gun, but is strangely quiet about the dusky perp.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:32 PM (ptqGC)

82 71 Alt account. @farrahiness

Mexican Tranny confirmed.

TikTok has been nuked.
Posted by: Heavy Squats at May 24, 2022 05:31 PM (T/BKS)


-----

Seriously? He does look very feminine. Cheekbones, lips.

Obviously mentally unstable.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 24, 2022 05:32 PM (DcKNO)

83 Uvalde is a great little town- jumping off place for a Texas gem - Garner State Park. Currently overwhelmed thanks to Joe.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 24, 2022 05:32 PM (QZ/dC)

84 78 >>Mexican Tranny confirmed.


So they can say he was bullied for being a Tranny ? Don't think they won't try that

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 05:32 PM (bs+z0)

85 76 I just looked at that shooters picture, is he transitioning? Look at those full lips and perfect eyebrows. Very strange looking dude?


yes was trans

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 24, 2022 05:32 PM (w0NJk)

86 Claim is that he was a U.S. citizen.

He was 18, so unlikely to have been a student at an elementary school.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2022 05:32 PM (bW8dp)

87 70 Just visited Uvalde around a month ago. It is a war zone. The people there are under siege on a good day.

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 05:27 PM (Vr12I)


Why in the hell didn't the school have a security guard on duty???
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:30 PM (ptqGC)

They well might have Jane. Any school is just too soft of a target when you get down to it.

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 05:32 PM (Vr12I)

88 I betting everyone in that school had an attitude that mass shootings won't happen there.

Everything is so surprising and unexpected now, except that they aren't.

It's the reason I ALWAYS carry.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 24, 2022 05:33 PM (Qhnrt)

89 The shooter's TikTok name was "TheBiggestOpp" seriously?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2022 05:33 PM (ESjRY)

90 Seriously? He does look very feminine. Cheekbones, lips.

Obviously mentally unstable.
==
Dude. I'm right here.

Posted by: Steven Tyler at May 24, 2022 05:33 PM (EZUYT)

91 It appears that we have a hispanic killing a bunch of other hispanic kids, I would say no Prez visit also.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 24, 2022 05:33 PM (8GBH4)

92 someone said he looks like Richard Ramirez aka the Night Stalker.

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2022 05:26 PM (AkbRF)


Looks more like Michael Jackson.

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 24, 2022 05:33 PM (wNDOJ)

93 >>yes was trans


How'd that workout for him?

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2022 05:33 PM (4lTHC)

94 The media line will be that he was driven to do this because of all the bigotry and transphobia.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2022 05:33 PM (xPl2J)

95 Where's the tranny confirmation?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:33 PM (ptqGC)

96 Why in the hell didn't the school have a security guard on duty???
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:30 PM (ptqGC)

We don't know that they didn't. But looks like the shooter knew the school layout, so he would have known how to avoid him if there was one. It's sounding like all the shooting happened in a very short period of time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2022 05:33 PM (trdmm)

97 I guessed cartel soldier but I may likely be wrong.

I only said that because it's a way point from the border to San Antonio.
And that around 5 years ago, they arrested cartel members in West Texas that would have qualified as a Dreamer.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (7kFm9)

98 Heavenly Father, please welcome the souls of the students and the teacher into your Kingdom and please provide comfort to those left behind to mourn them.

Amen

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (Qy7kP)

99 >> Seriously? He does look very feminine. Cheekbones, lips.

>Obviously mentally unstable.


Fuck you too, buddy.

Posted by: Sebastian Bach at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (4lTHC)

100 Doesn’t matter who he was or did. The narrative will be Guns bad and white supremacy.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (OalnH)

101 How'd that workout for him?


yeah about the usual huh?

here we were all thinking "in a few years these messed up trans kids will go after their parents"

well, I guess maybe. but then they seem to lash out against innocent people too

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (w0NJk)

102 Amen.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (REJkJ)

103 They would normally send Kamala but we all know about her aversion to being anywhere near the border.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (xPl2J)

104 >>yes was trans


How'd that workout for him?

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2022 05:33 PM (4lTHC)


He's fully transitioned to dead.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (ptqGC)

105 Uvalde looks to be 40-50 miles from the apex of the illegal border crossings, Del Rio area.
It's a damn shame what is being allowed to happen there. No one knows who these people are, they discard their passports before crossing the river.
Steve Bannon has been covering it almost daily.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (jTmQV)

106 All school staff should have weapons training and govt issued weapons and ammo. Ten per cent of any schools staff, chosen randomly, required to carry on any given day.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (NSTYy)

107 91 It appears that we have a hispanic killing a bunch of other hispanic kids, I would say no Prez visit also.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 24, 2022 05:33 PM (8GBH4)

No doubt he'll be there...Gotta go where there is a shooting..... Never let an opportunity to blame guns go to waste....RIP to those poor little Children

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (bs+z0)

108 Commenters here (and j. j. sefton) have taught me: first reports are always unreliable.

Posted by: Jack Crevalle at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (iSjbz)

109 Lord, have mercy.

Posted by: April-dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (OX9vb)

110 @89

>> The shooter's TikTok name was "TheBiggestOpp" seriously?

The intersections on this one are going to be LITAF.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2022 05:35 PM (d81QO)

111 Steven Tyler has been transitioning into a crazy old cat lady for a couple of decades now.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2022 05:35 PM (bW8dp)

112 Heavenly Father, please welcome the souls of the students and the teacher into your Kingdom and please provide comfort to those left behind to mourn them.

Amen
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (Qy7kP)

Amen

Posted by: spypeach at May 24, 2022 05:35 PM (eWCZe)

113 104
He's fully transitioned to dead.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (ptqGC)

Snort.....

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at May 24, 2022 05:35 PM (NSTYy)

114 He reminds me of the Night Stalker - Richard Ramirez. Same insane vibe.

God bless all of the families and friends mourning this horrific loss.

Posted by: Cheri at May 24, 2022 05:35 PM (oiNtH)

115 Because if people can see the original posts, they can't as easily be swayed by media disinformation.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2022 05:28 PM (5kI0z)


You are too young to be this cynical.

Posted by: blaster at May 24, 2022 05:35 PM (9VeU0)

116 His truck is in a ditch with the wheels torn off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:36 PM (ptqGC)

117 95 Where's the tranny confirmation?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:33 PM (ptqGC)

there is none, people are just riffing off that picture. But as I said, I've seen that "look" among some of the younger immigrants, and it's scary. The straggly unkempt hair is part of it, but I don't think this is the look of a tranny - this is the look of a stone cold murderer.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2022 05:36 PM (trdmm)

118 We don't talk about Bruno.

Posted by: blaster at May 24, 2022 05:36 PM (9VeU0)

119 108 Commenters here (and j. j. sefton) have taught me: first reports are always unreliable.

____________

That sounds fishy.

Posted by: Carta Verde at May 24, 2022 05:36 PM (1dzqn)

120 Shooter just transitioned to dead.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 05:36 PM (qoaQk)

121 Shut the HELL up, Geraldo.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:36 PM (ptqGC)

122 A depressing book about the subject that I have read is by Chris Bird, Surviving a Mass Killer Rampage. Basically, the police are minutes away and a mass killer wanting to go out via suicide can cause a lot of damage in a very short time.

Schools, by their very nature are not optimally designed for security, especially elementary schools, and so are an easy target for a mass killer wanting to run up the score. Chris has some good tips but one of the biggest unavoidable issues is the gun free zone problem for staff and the stiff cost for adding full time police officers for security in schools. To combat that problem, there are some techniques that help but not alleviate the dangers totally.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 05:36 PM (Iq9dF)

123 The picture looks trannyish to me.

Posted by: SamIam at May 24, 2022 05:37 PM (oasF3)

124 How long before Biden tells everyone that he knows what it's like to lose a child. He will politicize this and will know no shame.

Posted by: Cheri at May 24, 2022 05:37 PM (oiNtH)

125 I'm not in favor of arming groomers.

We need normie-based teaching certificates before we provide guns and training to teachers.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 24, 2022 05:37 PM (XvPQV)

126 I hope they report how Ramos gained access to the school. Unless his car crashed a door open, either a door was left unlocked or worse, opened, or someone opened the door for him.

Students don't have keycards.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 24, 2022 05:37 PM (REJkJ)

127 > The “resource officer” was watching porn on his phone.

Probably not far from the truth. My wife's school has "security." He is invariably on his phone with earbuds in and music blasting. We have video, taken from a kid's Instagram, of a fight taking place ten yards from him. His head is down, and he's fiddling with his phone for at least the first 2/3 of the fight.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 05:37 PM (eyxn4)

128 How long before Biden tells everyone that he knows what it's like to lose a child. He will politicize this and will know no shame.

Posted by: Cheri at May 24, 2022 05:37 PM (oiNtH)


One of these days, a parent needs to slap the hell out of Joe. Seriously.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:37 PM (ptqGC)

129 Kevin McCarthy is looking for a way to fold.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at May 24, 2022 05:37 PM (1nYye)

130 Doomsday Clock to Evil Mustache Man appearing has moved from 11:50pm to 11:55pm. Keep sending out the Troons, Groomers, and Pedos, you retards.

Posted by: Heavy Squats at May 24, 2022 05:38 PM (T/BKS)

131 At my kids school you have to be buzzed in. All doors are locked. I assumed every school was like this nowadays.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 24, 2022 05:38 PM (OalnH)

132 Because if people can see the original posts, they can't as easily be swayed by media disinformation.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2022 05:28 PM (5kI0z)


And on that note: Denzel Washington on the press
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXYzjYBTlpA

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2022 05:38 PM (+lVUW)

133 May the Families find Strength and Solace in this terrible time.

May he know Justice ...

Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at May 24, 2022 05:38 PM (okV1R)

134 106 All school staff should have weapons training and govt issued weapons and ammo. Ten per cent of any schools staff, chosen randomly, required to carry on any given day.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan
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Umm, trouble enough rooting out pedos in schools. Not sure that arming them might be the best solution right now.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 05:38 PM (Iq9dF)

135 105 Uvalde looks to be 40-50 miles from the apex of the illegal border crossings, Del Rio area.
It's a damn shame what is being allowed to happen there. No one knows who these people are, they discard their passports before crossing the river.
Steve Bannon has been covering it almost daily.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (jTmQV)

Eagle Pass is just south and west of Uvalde. Illegals cross enmasse there constantly. Uvalde has said that their area has identified over a hundred different nationalities apprehended. This is maybe the biggest current problem the country has, but hey, Ukraine!!!!!!

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 05:38 PM (Vr12I)

136 Jane, like minds, darlin

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 05:38 PM (qoaQk)

137  I wish every school had armed people. 
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You mean like the Parkland fellow who cowered behind his car, IIRC?

No, schools need more armed _masculine_ men, the kind that fought in wars and taught shop. Who run toward gunfire.

But those are all gone cause that's toxic and we want to teach preferred pronouns instead.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 24, 2022 05:38 PM (7kFm9)

138 May he know Justice ...
Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at May 24, 2022 05:38 PM (okV1R)

He's dead and in hell I'm sure

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 05:38 PM (bs+z0)

139 Jane, like minds, darlin

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 05:38 PM (qoaQk)

Ain't that the truth! Love ya, friend.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:39 PM (ptqGC)

140 Students don't have keycards.
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 24, 2022 05:37 PM (REJk

You really think a South Texas school would have keycards? I would guess most of those schools are in the same buildings and run the exact same way they were 50 years ago.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2022 05:39 PM (trdmm)

141 Posted by: Sid at May 24, 2022 05:39 PM (OHm2f)

Fuck off you foul POS

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 05:39 PM (bs+z0)

142 >>>Not sure why he would be in a gun battle with the border patrol. Maybe he was running drugs.

There have been rumors for some time that they are paying young US teens $1000 to help illegals on this side of the Rio Grande.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 24, 2022 05:39 PM (QYPq3)

143 Nuke the troll please.

Can we trade him for MUMR, who's beginning to make sense?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:40 PM (ptqGC)

144 Sid has to be a sock. No one is that dumb.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 24, 2022 05:40 PM (Qy7kP)

145 144 Nuke the troll please.

Can we trade him for MUMR, who's beginning to make sense?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:40 PM (ptqGC)

Yep.

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 05:40 PM (Vr12I)

146 Tom Servo,

No, I don't think the school has keycards, but someone up thread suggested that the shooter had one.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 24, 2022 05:40 PM (REJkJ)

147 https://tinyurl.com/2p9235rv

There's some high dollar equipment in that picture further down. Daniel Defense rifle with an Eotech sight. Just noting, not saying whether it means anything.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2022 05:31 PM (apYeC)

Yeah, I was wondering how an 18 year old affords a DD rifle. I can't (or don't) spend money on Gucci ARs. Though don't know if that rifles are his. 48 hour rule.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 24, 2022 05:40 PM (XvPQV)

148 14 CHILDREN!!! Gutless piece of shit. Burn in hell forever.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 24, 2022 05:41 PM (r1z5A)

149 Telemondo Rocky Horror Picture Show

Posted by: Heavy Squats at May 24, 2022 05:41 PM (T/BKS)

150 Remember how all mass shooters are white?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 24, 2022 05:41 PM (OalnH)

151 Not sure why he would be in a gun battle with the border patrol. Maybe he was running drugs.

There have been rumors for some time that they are paying young US teens $1000 to help illegals on this side of the Rio Grande.
==
Two days ago on the morning report. there was a link. The cartels advertise on tik tok. offer kids 3 to 5 K to drive a carload from border into the US.

Posted by: also see clint eastwood movie at May 24, 2022 05:41 PM (Gh3/R)

152 Cleanup and banhammer needed in aisle 140.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 24, 2022 05:41 PM (REJkJ)

153 > He reminds me of the Night Stalker - Richard Ramirez. Same insane vibe.

Remember when Babs Boxer released info on the Night Stalker the police wanted to keep secret? Stupid biddy wanted to appear informed and brag that the police were hot on his tail.

She let fly that Ramirez had very distinctive shoes that were the only pair in California. He also was using out of production ammo with red rimmed primers. Both of those things changed after Babs blabbed.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 05:41 PM (eyxn4)

154 over/under it comes out that the police chased him in the school and shot the students trying to kill Salvador ?

Posted by: Jimbo jones at May 24, 2022 05:42 PM (g19P3)

155 >> Remember how all mass shooters are white?


White Men. Without Vaginas.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2022 05:42 PM (4lTHC)

156 Looks like a slightly meatier Richard Ramirez.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at May 24, 2022 05:42 PM (W7Wi6)

157 Posted by: Sid at May 24, 2022 05:39 PM (OHm2f)
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Fuck you, cocksucker.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 24, 2022 05:42 PM (sWM8x)

158 I think I found his friend that was mentioned in the chat image above with some creative searching...seems like he didn't have many friends on the internet at least.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2022 05:42 PM (ESjRY)

159 There was only 1 of a kind pair of shoes in the entire state? Whaaaaaaaa?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 24, 2022 05:42 PM (OalnH)

160 Such a tragedy. My heart breaks for the families.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2022 05:42 PM (NpAcC)

161 Those poor parents. My heart is broken for them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:42 PM (ptqGC)

162 My first thought was that he looked like a Tranny. This is the act of a sick mind. Haven't seen anywhere how old the kids were. These were defenseless little children. I can't think of anything more horrifying.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2022 05:43 PM (Y+l9t)

163 eah, I was wondering how an 18 year old affords a DD rifle. I can't (or don't) spend money on Gucci ARs. Though don't know if that rifles are his. 48 hour rule.
==
Good point. he could have lifted that picture and posted it as if it were his. The question is what he had on him at the time and where they came from.

Posted by: it could still be cartel related at May 24, 2022 05:43 PM (S5zB7)

164 > Posted by: Sid at May 24, 2022 05:39 PM (OHm2f)

Needs a banhammer.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 05:43 PM (eyxn4)

165 140 Good topic for the weekly Gun Thread, amirite? Do you use kids for target practice? Posted by: Sid at May 24, 2022 05:39 PM (OHm2f)

Hey Sid, I hear some sidewalks need repainting next to some very tall buildings. Why don't you help them out? Red is in style.

Posted by: SamIam at May 24, 2022 05:43 PM (oasF3)

166 Eagle Pass is just south and west of Uvalde. Illegals cross enmasse there constantly. Uvalde has said that their area has identified over a hundred different nationalities apprehended. This is maybe the biggest current problem the country has, but hey, Ukraine!!!!!!
Posted by: kraken

A couple of 50 cals with an extremely lax ROE will shut that shit down.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 24, 2022 05:43 PM (9DOwv)

167 >>>Remember when Babs Boxer released info on the Night Stalker the police wanted to keep secret?

you're getting your crazy Frisco bitches mixed up. it was Feinstein.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2022 05:43 PM (xPl2J)

168 I wouldn't bet Sundowner's Puppeteers don't have him going to Texas in a week.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2022 05:43 PM (2JoB8)

169 Yeah, I was wondering how an 18 year old affords a DD rifle.

Quick googling says around $2k?

I didn't have that much money when I was a teen.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (ESjRY)

170 >>Good point. he could have lifted that picture and posted it as if it were his. The question is what he had on him at the time and where they came from.


Pretty sure you can just check a gun out of the Libraries in Texas.

It's a lot easier than getting a book.

Posted by: Barrack Hussein Obama at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (4lTHC)

171 The CNBC report on this Hs no mention of border patrol or anything else. Just man shoots kids. Guns are bad.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (OalnH)

172 I would trade my life to stop a pos like this guy. Are there more like me?

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable, now with ultra maga at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (0OmEj)

173 >>>Two days ago on the morning report. there was a link. The cartels advertise on tik tok. offer kids 3 to 5 K to drive a carload from border into the US.

Posted by: also see clint eastwood movie at May 24, 2022 05:41 PM (Gh3/R)

You people on EDT and your morning reports...

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (QYPq3)

174 I wonder if Salvador Ramos had been steeped in CRT and whether we should thank a teacher for that.

Posted by: x at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (uQFwj)

175 No way Joey is going to a border town to comfort parents over a Hispanic killer murdering their babies.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (ptqGC)

176 The cartels advertise on TikTok for mules.

Posted by: Ktgreat at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (t6t6M)

177 140 Good topic for the weekly Gun Thread, amirite? Do you use kids for target practice?

Posted by: Sid at May 24, 2022 05:39 PM (OHm2f)

++++

Ya know, the grand idea would be to outlaw guns, confiscate all arms from law-abiding gun owners, leaving only thugs, gang members, and various insane people to have them. And if that does not work, just put up more "Gun Free Zone" posters.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (TY4FX)

178 There's some high dollar equipment in that picture further down. Daniel Defense rifle with an Eotech sight. Just noting, not saying whether it means anything.
Posted by: Oddbob

Yeah, I was wondering how an 18 year old affords a DD rifle. I can't (or don't) spend money on Gucci ARs. Though don't know if that rifles are his. 48 hour rule. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Few guesses about perp, prior trouble with law/neighbors/etc. Juvie record, drug issues, and broken family trouble. This was planned and not some rando outburst from someone snapping their twig.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (Iq9dF)

179 Poor Sid. Being named after a cartoon sloth must be humiliating.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at May 24, 2022 05:45 PM (W7Wi6)

180 125 I'm not in favor of arming groomers.

We need normie-based teaching certificates before we provide guns and training to teachers.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 24, 2022 05:37 PM (XvPQV)

Agreed! I was still calibrated to the teachers I knew back in the 70's

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at May 24, 2022 05:45 PM (NSTYy)

181 I didn't have that much money when I was a teen.
==
but you weren't a mule for the cartel either.

Posted by: it could still be cartel related at May 24, 2022 05:45 PM (S5zB7)

182 Daniel Defense isn't a Gucci rifle

Posted by: Colonel Travis at May 24, 2022 05:45 PM (qpukd)

183 One of these days, a parent needs to slap the hell out of Joe. Seriously.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

No kidding. Sniff my kid's hair, rub their shoulders while whispering in their ear would get a swift reaction from me. It would be well worth tangling with the SS and arrest to clock that SOB.

Posted by: Cheri at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (oiNtH)

184 > There was only 1 of a kind pair of shoes in the entire state? Whaaaaaaaa?

Ramirez was wearing a specific model of Avia shoes. The detectives consulted with the manufacturer and were able to trace the shipments to the west coast. The ones Ramirez was wearing was the only pair shipped out there.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (eyxn4)

185 >>>Quick googling says around $2k?

I didn't have that much money when I was a teen.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (ESjRY)

To be fair, $2k in the era of Biden was more like $15 back then.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (QYPq3)

186 Please don't copy the troll's comments in your reply.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (Y+l9t)

187 I would trade my life to stop a pos like this guy. Are there more like me?
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable, now with ultra maga


Raising my hand so fucking fast it breaks the sound barrier.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (r1z5A)

188 Quick googling says around $2k?

I didn't have that much money when I was a teen.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (ESjRY)

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The 48-hour rule, however, I wonder if the FBI will investigate this detail thoroughly. I have found that what I think the FBI is doing, the FBI is not doing.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (DcKNO)

189 JFC the CNBC story is under its Politics section. 14 kids dead is politics for these assholes. Cuz Biden can now start banning guns.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (OalnH)

190 >>I didn't have that much money when I was a teen.


I did. But I had 3 jobs.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (4lTHC)

191 Was he on "medication." Quite seriously, I think that there is a real, violence disinhibiting effect that has never been adequately researched. Just too many of these things all fit the same pharmacologic profile. It's like those medications with "risk of suicide" --except in this situation it's homicide.
We need sensible Big Pharma control.

Posted by: Zek at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (OzNIz)

192 > you're getting your crazy Frisco bitches mixed up. it was Feinstein.

You're right.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (eyxn4)

193 There will be a gun ban on FJBs desk be fri.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 05:47 PM (t3/qz)

194 So, if this thing was a Tranny, we get to blame it on Lori Lightfoot, right?

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 24, 2022 05:47 PM (QYPq3)

195 Do you use kids for target practice?

Spit that dick out of your mouth and try again.

Posted by: Squid at May 24, 2022 05:47 PM (cGD1P)

196 He's dead and in hell I'm sure
Posted by: It's me donna


There is justice in this world and Justice in the next ...

Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at May 24, 2022 05:47 PM (okV1R)

197 191 Was he on "medication." Quite seriously, I think that there is a real, violence disinhibiting effect that has never been adequately researched. Just too many of these things all fit the same pharmacologic profile. It's like those medications with "risk of suicide" --except in this situation it's homicide.
We need sensible Big Pharma control.
Posted by: Zek at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (OzNIz)

------

Absolutely possible.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 24, 2022 05:47 PM (DcKNO)

198 bonhomme,
The trolll du jour is enjoying dancing in ecstasy about his 'smaht' take amidst the blood of innocents.

I would say being himself is enough punishment for a lifetime far more than a temporary banning.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 05:47 PM (Iq9dF)

199 Hey Sid, I heard the HQ was thinking of highlighting a Pedo of the Week every Saturday. You seem like a great first candidate.

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 24, 2022 05:47 PM (wNDOJ)

200 America's caught the libertine rash and it won't heal until it contains the libertines.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 24, 2022 05:48 PM (8E/wP)

201 Some Rat, so very good to see you.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 05:48 PM (qoaQk)

202 would trade my life to stop a pos like this guy. Are there more like me?

Be old and in the way (of perps like this).

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 24, 2022 05:48 PM (Iz2Z7)

203 182 Daniel Defense isn't a Gucci rifle
Posted by: Colonel Travis at May 24, 2022 05:45 PM (qpukd)

Ish. I'm exaggerating slightly, but it sure as hell isn't an entry level Anderson or Ruger or S&W carbine. 1800 to 2k for a rifle is a lot of money for an 18 year old.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 24, 2022 05:48 PM (XvPQV)

204
143 >>>Not sure why he would be in a gun battle with the border patrol. Maybe he was running drugs.

There have been rumors for some time that they are paying young US teens $1000 to help illegals on this side of the Rio Grande.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 24, 2022 05:39 PM (QYPq3

I'm betting there are dozens of mules that go to the shooter's high school. And I'm sure many have been raised in the cartels' death cult.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 24, 2022 05:48 PM (Qhnrt)

205 This is atrocious. Please God make it stop.

Posted by: gp at May 24, 2022 05:49 PM (qpX6U)

206 t's like those medications with "risk of suicide" --except in this situation it's homicide.
We need sensible Big Pharma control.
==
The medical term of art is literally "activation". If the dose is too high, instead of managing depression, it becomes disinhibatory and increases the risk of self harm/acting out destructively. One of the signs is progressive insomnia.

Posted by: it could still be cartel related at May 24, 2022 05:49 PM (XLwlA)

207 That story about Feinstein is just beyond comprehension. To be that dumb, your ego so out of it that you need to be "in the know" and give such a crucial detail to the public.

That alone should have disqualified her from public office.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 24, 2022 05:49 PM (DcKNO)

208 Some Rat, so very good to see you.
Posted by: Ben Had


Thank you, {{{}}}.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 24, 2022 05:50 PM (r1z5A)

209 > Daniel Defense isn't a Gucci rifle

DD is a lot nicer than Anderson or Palmetto State Armory. Knight's Armament Company, LWRC, and DD are usually cited as the more Gucci end.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 05:50 PM (eyxn4)

210 I did. But I had 3 jobs.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (4lTHC)

I was just telling my kids that all I've done is work since I was 9 yo (while going to school, of course) and how it was a shame that it's all different, now. The good thing is it came up because they asked when they could get a job (oldest isn't even teen, yet). Made me proud. Explained to them that I pay them to do things around the house so they understood a transaction and value of work.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 24, 2022 05:50 PM (QYPq3)

211 Fox says the school was just grades 2, 3, and 4. So students would be 9 or so max.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 24, 2022 05:50 PM (sWM8x)

212 "Public schools are literal prisons for children, and they are the only place most people will experience physical violence in their entire lives."

Truth.

Between the groomers and the shooters, it's long past time to get your kids out of public schools.

Posted by: Not Michael Malice at May 24, 2022 05:50 PM (1dzqn)

213 @ChadPergram

1) The mass shooting in Texas comes on the eve of the Senate confirmation hearing tomorrow for ATF Director nominee Steve Dettelbach. Expect the shooting in Texas to now command much of the dialogue in that hearing.

2) Dettelbach goes before the Senate Judiciary Committee in the morning. Dettelbach is the second nominee President Biden put forth to run ATF. Former nominee David Chipman withdrew his nomination in September after opposition for Second Amendment advocates.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:50 PM (ptqGC)

214 211 Fox says the school was just grades 2, 3, and 4. So students would be 9 or so max.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 24, 2022 05:50 PM (sWM8x)

There are no words

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 05:51 PM (bs+z0)

215 Not sure which Nightstalker movie it was but it was told from the investigators point of view, but yeah that specific shoe size, make and color were the only ones shipped to CA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 24, 2022 05:51 PM (8GBH4)

216 197 191 Was he on "medication." Quite seriously, I think that there is a real, violence disinhibiting effect that has never been adequately researched. Just too many of these things all fit the same pharmacologic profile. It's like those medications with "risk of suicide" --except in this situation it's homicide.
We need sensible Big Pharma control.
Posted by: Zek at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (OzNIz)


Very possible.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 24, 2022 05:51 PM (Qhnrt)

217 Shot his grandmother before going on the rampage. Single mother and grandmother raised? No father in the house? A common pattern for these psychos.

Posted by: Archer at May 24, 2022 05:51 PM (gmo/4)

218 >> I pay them to do things around the house so they understood a transaction and value of work.


Elderly neighbors are easy marks. The pay isn't good. But they refer like mad.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2022 05:51 PM (4lTHC)

219 I just missed what was being said on Fox. Something about he went to the school to see his mother(?) or something and the school let him in.

I'll see what I can find.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:52 PM (ptqGC)

220 202 would trade my life to stop a pos like this guy. Are there more like me?

Be old and in the way (of perps like this).

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty
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FWIW, a retired cop tried and failed to stop the recent slaughter in Buffalo but did get off a shot or so from reports. Might have distracted the killer enough for some to escape but dunno.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 05:52 PM (Iq9dF)

221 It seems to parallel the shooting in Connecticut where the perpetrator shot his mother and then went and shot up a school.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2022 05:52 PM (Y+l9t)

222 wish every school had armed people.
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You mean like the Parkland fellow who cowered behind his car, IIRC?

No, schools need more armed _masculine_ men, the kind that fought in wars and taught shop. Who run toward gunfire.

*

More armed parents. People who have kids there.

You know, the people who are banned from carrying on school property.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 24, 2022 05:52 PM (rjyzh)

223 There are no words
Posted by: It's me donna


As a grandpa, I'm sitting here with tears in my eyes.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 24, 2022 05:52 PM (r1z5A)

224 Sid is no Erg. Troll quality like everything else has declined under Vegetable Von Shartpants.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at May 24, 2022 05:53 PM (W7Wi6)

225 > It's like those medications with "risk of suicide"

SSRIs, which are used to treat depression, have a lovely side effect of INCREASING suicidal ideation when you change dosage at all. Going on, coming off, increasing dosage, and decreasing dosage all increase suicidal ideation.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 05:54 PM (eyxn4)

226 I reckon he killed his grandma before the rest of the spree.

Perhaps that's why he was previously engaged with LEOs.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 24, 2022 05:54 PM (8QlbF)

227 Abbott is a RINO useless governor

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2022 05:54 PM (t4poC)

228 221 It seems to parallel the shooting in Connecticut where the perpetrator shot his mother and then went and shot up a school.

Posted by: sharon
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Sharon, spree killers often start with their family first or sometimes co workers and then spread out to get more targets. Fairly common among those that plan to kill themselves--they despise themselves and want others to suffer.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 05:54 PM (Iq9dF)

229 > As a grandpa, I'm sitting here with tears in my eyes.

My kid's in first grade. I can't imagine getting that phone call. It would absolutely destroy me.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 05:55 PM (eyxn4)

230
He looks like Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker serial killer of the 1980s.

Posted by: Raspail at May 24, 2022 05:55 PM (Men5k)

231 >>>Elderly neighbors are easy marks. The pay isn't good. But they refer like mad.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2022 05:51 PM (4lTHC)

Unfortunately, we have a neighbor who had monopolized that market long before we ever moved in. Luckily, I have had enough to keep them very busy since things stacked up while I recovered from being mostly dead. Plus, Mom keeps them busy during the day after schooling them.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 24, 2022 05:55 PM (QYPq3)

232 226 I reckon he killed his grandma before the rest of the spree.


Or did he ? One place says he killed her and one says he tried to kill her...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 05:55 PM (bs+z0)

233 Trump's America.

/

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at May 24, 2022 05:55 PM (19Oib)

234 I'm going with the 24 hour rule here. Lots of info being added that needs clarification. I am indeed happy that the fuckwad is dead. No question about that.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 05:56 PM (qoaQk)

235 Quick googling says around $2k?

I didn't have that much money when I was a teen.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (ESjRY)

To be fair, $2k in the era of Biden was more like $15 back then.
Posted by: In Reel Life

I work a full-time job, and I can't afford to drop $2K on a rifle.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 24, 2022 05:56 PM (9DOwv)

236 Thinking rat fker shot up school and whatever LE was near went to scene

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2022 05:56 PM (2JoB8)

237 Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 05:56 PM (qoaQk)

I'm with you

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 05:56 PM (bs+z0)

238 Where are the parental units for this piece of shit? Anyone talking to them yet?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 24, 2022 05:56 PM (Wy1BU)

239 unfortunate that TX doesn't have real gun control and a Red Flag law like in NYS

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 24, 2022 05:56 PM (Ynyl9)

240
Yeah, I got nothing.

Posted by: Alex Jomes at May 24, 2022 05:58 PM (dQvv7)

241 236 Thinking rat fker shot up school and whatever LE was near went to scene
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2022 05:56 PM (2JoB

The town has at least 5 different LEO entities encamped there, because of the invasion.

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 05:58 PM (Vr12I)

242 The confidence level is high that this piece of $hit was on some sort of gender bender drugs by the looks of the pictures. That will get memory holed quickly.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 24, 2022 05:58 PM (bVYXr)

243 Where are the parental units for this piece of shit?

Who knows? may be dead.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 24, 2022 05:58 PM (8GBH4)

244 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 05:24 PM (NZIB7)

Fen have you got any news if you are still scheduled? When will you know?

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2022 05:58 PM (dscaa)

245 I'm going with the 24 hour rule here. Lots of info being added that needs clarification. I am indeed happy that the fuckwad is dead. No question about that.
Posted by: Ben Had


The spin on this will be disgusting.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 24, 2022 05:58 PM (r1z5A)

246 > Where are the parental units for this piece of shit? Anyone talking to them yet?

My WAG is his dad has been out of the picture for years. Mom is probably on drugs and or mentally ill. Granny is the primary caretaker.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 05:58 PM (eyxn4)

247 USNtakim, with you.

I've had a good run; I'm expendable.

Posted by: April-dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2022 05:58 PM (OX9vb)

248 I own a LWRC and wouldn't consider that Gucci, either. No, it is not cheap. But I don't think $1,500-$2,000 is outrageous for an extremely well-made AR. Something like LaRue is boutique, approaching 3 grand.

Regardless, we don't know what weapons this guy used or how he got them.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at May 24, 2022 05:59 PM (qpukd)

249 Regardless, we don't know what weapons this guy used or how he got them.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at May 24, 2022 05:59 PM (qpukd)


Maybe they were "gifts" from Operation Fast and Furious?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:00 PM (ptqGC)

250 >>>I work a full-time job, and I can't afford to drop $2K on a rifle.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 24, 2022 05:56 PM (9DOwv)

Neither do I. It was a joke.

(You don't need a DD to get into the market. S&W has the one to get you in, if needed)

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 24, 2022 06:00 PM (QYPq3)

251 Posted by: ... at May 24, 2022 05:58 PM (dscaa

Yes. I have to be at the hospital at 4:45 tomorrow morning. I expect the surgery will be around 7:00

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 06:00 PM (qyCXa)

252 If he wasn't already dead, he would be a good candidate for public execution.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 24, 2022 06:01 PM (DcKNO)

253 Jane said something about him asking to see his Mother who worked there? She only heard part of it and was gonna check.. Wonder if the dead teacher was his mom ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 06:01 PM (bs+z0)

254 Yes. I have to be at the hospital at 4:45 tomorrow morning. I expect the surgery will be around 7:00

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 06:00 PM (qyCXa)

Prayers up, Fen. I believe you'll come through fine.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:01 PM (ptqGC)

255 My WAG is his dad has been out of the picture for years. Mom is probably on drugs and or mentally ill. Granny is the primary caretaker.

Posted by: bonhomme
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Very few school spree killers have an intact family with both father and mother. So you are most probably correct about Granny. Mom could be out of the pix for a number of reasons.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:01 PM (Iq9dF)

256 You don't need a DD to get into the market.
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True. My $400 Anderson runs great.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 24, 2022 06:01 PM (sWM8x)

257 Concur with the 24/48/72 hr. rule.

EXCEPT, that the MSM also used those time frames to thoroughly scrub, bury and expunge the record of all details harmful to their side.

I'll await salient details in the Morning Report, and other AoS posts, as they publish. AoS > msm. Everyfuckingtime.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 24, 2022 06:01 PM (QzJWU)

258 Supposedly a pic of the Liberty Blessing Troon Demon from Reddit r/LesbianActually. Its worried about its bulge.

https://is2.4chan.org/pol/1653427232560.jpg

Posted by: Heavy Squats at May 24, 2022 06:01 PM (T/BKS)

259 251 Posted by: ... at May 24, 2022 05:58 PM (dscaa

Yes. I have to be at the hospital at 4:45 tomorrow morning. I expect the surgery will be around 7:00

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 06:00 PM (qyCXa)

God be with you Fen.You are in my prayers.

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 06:02 PM (Vr12I)

260 Prayers up, Fen.

Prayers from me also

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 06:02 PM (bs+z0)

261 (You don't need a DD to get into the market. S&W has the one to get you in, if needed)
Posted by: In Reel Life

Have an old Bushmaster and and newer Palmetto State Armory.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 24, 2022 06:02 PM (9DOwv)

262 Jane said something about him asking to see his Mother who worked there? She only heard part of it and was gonna check.. Wonder if the dead teacher was his mom ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 06:01 PM (bs+z0)

I haven't been able to find anything else. Dang it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:02 PM (ptqGC)

263 Prayers for the kids and families.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 24, 2022 06:02 PM (kf6Ak)

264 wait, I know, we need a law making it illegal to bring a gun into a school.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 24, 2022 06:03 PM (Ynyl9)

265 Presser up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:03 PM (ptqGC)

266 Good luck Fen, may the Lord be with you in your surgery and guide your medical care staff while giving comfort to your loved ones.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:03 PM (Iq9dF)

267 Yes. I have to be at the hospital at 4:45 tomorrow morning. I expect the surgery will be around 7:00

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 06:00 PM (qyCXa)

May you have good drugs, a better surgeon, a speedy recovery and a clean bill of health afterwards. I pray for your good health and a long life.

Posted by: Archer at May 24, 2022 06:03 PM (gmo/4)

268 I haven't been able to find anything else. Dang it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:02 PM (ptqGC)

There are definitely a lot of stories out there right now

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 06:03 PM (bs+z0)

269 We’re thinking of you, Fen.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2022 06:03 PM (igeX7)

270 Those kittens and puppies tonight will be sorely needed.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 24, 2022 06:04 PM (DcKNO)

271 Some of these monsters, like the New Zealand one, have successfully trolled our idiot media as far as having a cause.

Minion: IRA?
Hans Gruber: *shrug* I saw it in Time magazine.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 24, 2022 06:04 PM (44ww/)

272 We're teaching from K thru 12 that kids have every right to mutilate themselves, the goodness of abortion, sexual perversion, that there is only the state, men are bad, the country is the worst country in the world, etc., etc.

And then we wonder how this could happen. The kids are only doing what they've been taught.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 24, 2022 06:05 PM (Qhnrt)

273 This story is all over the news, the MSM is going to have a hard time killing it. Biden has been briefed and will make a statement after his nap. Look for it to be transformed into a senseless gun violence story. Nothing to do with the border, illegals, cartels, gangs etc....

Posted by: Ripley at May 24, 2022 06:05 PM (MxEKc)

274 One border patrol agent was injured and struck by gunfire.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2022 06:05 PM (NpAcC)

275 Just visited Uvalde around a month ago. It is a war zone. The people there are under siege on a good day.

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 05:27 PM (Vr12I)


Why in the hell didn't the school have a security guard on duty???
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:30 PM (ptqGC)

In the big Florida shooting they did have a security guard. He and the county cops hid until guys from a different county arrived and went in.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 24, 2022 06:05 PM (eoQWY)

276 @191

>>It's like those medications with "risk of suicide" --except in this situation it's homicide.

Jacking with the endocrine system can lead to extraordinary bad results.

And a lot of times it's down to trial and error on which ssri or snri is going to treat your problem.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2022 06:05 PM (d81QO)

277 Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at May 24, 2022 05:55 PM (19Oib)

Heh

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2022 06:05 PM (dscaa)

278 Ha. In the last link, when people are joking about "how long before we're told he's a white Hispanic", the counter is suddenly

"evil comes in all forms"

(you f*cking white supremacists)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 24, 2022 06:05 PM (rjyzh)

279 With all the hooha goin on, maybe it was a terrible mistake to allow the LGBTP community to bring the room temp IQ havers from 3rd world countries without a fucking war first.
Maybe, just maybe, tolerance is a grave wicked sin.

Posted by: Heavy Squats at May 24, 2022 06:05 PM (T/BKS)

280 Is there a livestream of the press conference?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2022 06:05 PM (Y+l9t)

281 Boy, someone got triggered by Ricky Gervais new Netflix special quickly.

And according to how the Left works, that means Netflix should be sued.

Posted by: Bete at May 24, 2022 06:06 PM (uiT+8)

282 118 We don't talk about Bruno.
Posted by: blaster

Bruno no no no

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 24, 2022 06:06 PM (kf6Ak)

283 251
Yes. I have to be at the hospital at 4:45 tomorrow morning. I expect the surgery will be around 7:00

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 06:00 PM (qyCXa)

Prayers for you Fenelon. I hope all goes well and you have a speedy recovery. May the Almighty God watch over you and bless you. Amen.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 24, 2022 06:06 PM (N39Ws)

284 257 Concur with the 24/48/72 hr. rule.

EXCEPT, that the MSM also used those time frames to thoroughly scrub, bury and expunge the record of all details harmful to their side.

I'll await salient details in the Morning Report, and other AoS posts, as they publish. AoS > msm. Everyfuckingtime.

_____________________

I have a feeling that this is going to be one of those stories that we never get the truth about. Like Vegas.

Posted by: Mocktopus at May 24, 2022 06:06 PM (1dzqn)

285 In the big Florida shooting they did have a security guard. He and the county cops hid until guys from a different county arrived and went in.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 24, 2022 06:05 PM (eoQWY)

I remember. And then David Hogg rode his bicycle over and has claimed to be a survivor ever since. He's got a free ride at Harvard because of his lies.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:06 PM (ptqGC)

286 215 Not sure which Nightstalker movie it was but it was told from the investigators point of view, but yeah that specific shoe size, make and color were the only ones shipped to CA.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 24, 2022 05:51 PM (8GBH4)

And Then Mayor Feinstein gave it away at press conference and so he changed his shoes and gun

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 24, 2022 06:06 PM (dKiJG)

287 This comment intentionally left blank.

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2022 06:07 PM (v0R5T)

288 The whole illegal Hispanic narrative is going to disappear pretty fast.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:07 PM (ptqGC)

289 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 06:00 PM (qyCXa)

Ok. That's good news, sweetie. Didn't want you to have to wait any longer.

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2022 06:07 PM (dscaa)

290 Yes. I have to be at the hospital at 4:45 tomorrow morning. I expect the surgery will be around 7:00

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Big hug,prayers, and hope they give you the good drugs
We love ya, Fen

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 24, 2022 06:08 PM (kf6Ak)

291 Okay. Trace Gallagher at Fox said he was angry with his mother who worked at the school, and that's how he got inside.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:08 PM (ptqGC)

292 > I remember. And then David Hogg rode his bicycle over and has claimed to be a survivor ever since. He's got a free ride at Harvard because of his lies.

I'm pretty sure Hogg went home and came back. At least one teacher confirmed Hogg was at the school during the shooting. I don't think we ever heard WHERE at the school he was.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 06:08 PM (eyxn4)

293 Oh Mylanta, that Instagram picture... He looks like an emo chick. It sucks that other people had to die for his mental illness.

Posted by: pookysgirl, listening to Lego re-enactments of anime at May 24, 2022 06:09 PM (XKZwp)

294 264 wait, I know, we need a law making it illegal to bring a gun into a school.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 24, 2022 06:03 PM (Ynyl9)

---------

I remember a couple decades ago, John Lott noting that some community (in Tennessee IIRC) passed a law REQUIRING all residents to carry a firearm -- which caused crime to virtually disappear.

Almost as if there was a rational, causal relationship or something ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at May 24, 2022 06:09 PM (19Oib)

295 Hey, my mentally unhinged son is coming to talk to me. Can you buzz him in when he gets here?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 06:09 PM (t3/qz)

296 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 24, 2022 06:06 PM (N39Ws)

Thanks for the beautiful prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 06:09 PM (zm3Rk)

297
Yes. I have to be at the hospital at 4:45 tomorrow morning. I expect the surgery will be around 7:00

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 06:00 PM (qyCXa)

Prayers sent.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 24, 2022 06:10 PM (XH+no)

298 I'm more of a shooting survivor than Hogg. I have actually had someone aim a gun at me and fire several shots. Hogg was *probably* in a school complex where a shooter went on a rampage.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 06:10 PM (eyxn4)

299 Okay. Trace Gallagher at Fox said he was angry with his mother who worked at the school, and that's how he got inside.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:08 PM (ptqGC)
*****
I think he was talking about Sandy Hook.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2022 06:10 PM (NpAcC)

300 292 Okay. Trace Gallagher at Fox said he was angry with his mother who worked at the school, and that's how he got inside.

__________

If that is true, it seems unlikely he was carrying the rifle.

Posted by: Enis Penvy at May 24, 2022 06:10 PM (1dzqn)

301 Did they have a "No Guns" sign on the door to the school?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 06:10 PM (t3/qz)

302 Weird how its always Soft Targets tho. Why not the Hard Targets?
This question really Burns the ole Britches while Rustlin them Jimmies...

Posted by: Heavy Squats at May 24, 2022 06:10 PM (T/BKS)

303 Quick googling says around $2k?

I didn't have that much money when I was a teen.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2022 05:44 PM (ESjRY)

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The 48-hour rule, however, I wonder if the FBI will investigate this detail thoroughly. I have found that what I think the FBI is doing, the FBI is not doing.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 24, 2022 05:46 PM (DcKNO)

Would not surprise me if he was linked to the FBI - they were tipped on him and did nothing, they were running an op with him. We've seen it too many times before.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 24, 2022 06:10 PM (eoQWY)

304 I'm pretty sure Hogg went home and came back

*

No. F*ck him. He wasn't there if he rode his bike "back"

He doesn't get any benefit of the doubt for a school shooting he and his bald fag hag helped cause with their relentless teasing and bullying of a kid who was different from them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 24, 2022 06:10 PM (rjyzh)

305 302 Was it printed in multiple languages?

Posted by: Bete at May 24, 2022 06:11 PM (uiT+8)

306 Yes. I have to be at the hospital at 4:45 tomorrow morning. I expect the surgery will be around 7:00

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 06:00 PM (qyCXa)

Prayers sent.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 24, 2022 06:10 PM (XH+no)
********
You're in my prayers Fen.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2022 06:11 PM (NpAcC)

307 I'm more of a shooting survivor than Hogg. I have actually had someone aim a gun at me and fire several shots. Hogg was *probably* in a school complex where a shooter went on a rampage.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 06:10 PM (eyxn4)

Hogg was at home at the time of the shooting IIRC.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 24, 2022 06:11 PM (eoQWY)

308
I have a feeling that this is going to be one of those stories that we never get the truth about. Like Vegas.
Posted by: Mocktopus at May 24, 2022 06:06 PM (1dzqn)

Alex Jones sez Vegas was a Saudi op, that there were dead bodies all over the place inside hotel rooms. Apparently an effort to demonstrate what they COULD do if.... something or other. I forget what, exactly.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 24, 2022 06:11 PM (YV6PJ)

309 294 Oh Mylanta, that Instagram picture... He looks like an emo chick. It sucks that other people had to die for his mental illness.

____________________

It rubs the lotion on itself or else it gets the hose again.

Posted by: Enis Penvy at May 24, 2022 06:11 PM (1dzqn)

310 don't forget to tell the doc to slap hot iron to it, fen. best wishes.

Posted by: x at May 24, 2022 06:11 PM (uQFwj)

311 Yeah, Trace was talking about the Sandy Hook shooter.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at May 24, 2022 06:12 PM (Z/+J6)

312 299 I'm more of a shooting survivor than Hogg. I have actually had someone aim a gun at me and fire several shots. Hogg was *probably* in a school complex where a shooter went on a rampage.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 06:10 PM (eyxn4)

He was at home. He road his bike to school when he heard what happened.

But who knows what is true anymore?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2022 06:12 PM (igeX7)

313 I've typed-deleted so many times. I wish I knew how to stop these evil acts. I don't.

Posted by: gp at May 24, 2022 06:12 PM (qpX6U)

314 Dang it, ya'll. I'm trying to search Twitter and listen to Fox at the same time. I suck as a multi-tasker.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:12 PM (ptqGC)

315 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 06:00 PM (qyCXa)

Don't sweat it Fen. God takes care of his own. Lets us know when youre done and everything is OK.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 24, 2022 06:12 PM (6Ino6)

316 I remember a couple decades ago, John Lott noting that some community (in Tennessee IIRC) passed a law REQUIRING all residents to carry a firearm -- which caused crime to virtually disappear.

Almost as if there was a rational, causal relationship or something ...

Posted by: ShainS
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Believe it was Kennesaw, GA in response to Morton Grove, IL ordinance on firearms.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:13 PM (Iq9dF)

317 This is a small, poor Texas town right in the middle of the immigration melt down. They couldn't afford card readers / updated security for their schools.

This will DESTROY this town. I go to church not far from there in Devine. (Not far is relative in Texas)

God rest the souls that were killed.

Posted by: Satrose at May 24, 2022 06:13 PM (nycWw)

318 Political Hat told me Vegas was nothing to dig into, cause the FBI could be trusted when they said it was just some lone guy and then stopped talking about it altogether.

Posted by: Bete at May 24, 2022 06:13 PM (uiT+8)

319 In the big Florida shooting they did have a security guard. He and the county cops hid until guys from a different county arrived and went in.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 24, 2022 06:05 PM (eoQWY)

I remember. And then David Hogg rode his bicycle over and has claimed to be a survivor ever since. He's got a free ride at Harvard because of his lies.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:06 PM (ptqGC)

So Hogg at least got *some* punishment, right?

Posted by: Oldcat at May 24, 2022 06:13 PM (eoQWY)

320 Elementary schools in Texas are locked up right during the day. You have to buzz the door and be let in at every one I've been to.

Posted by: brak at May 24, 2022 06:13 PM (KR4lF)

321 These bastards go where no one can harm them while they are doing evil

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2022 06:14 PM (2JoB8)

322 Less than 50 miles to the other side of San Antonio is Sutherland Springs.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 06:14 PM (t3/qz)

323 The country is fucked up beyond repair.

Posted by: I guess I'll tell them at May 24, 2022 06:14 PM (qpPIA)

324 seen at twitchy:

In the wake of the school shooting in Texas, former DHS officials turned CNN flack Juliette Kayyem demands Biden suspend immigration enforcement in the area of Uvalde "because of the political issues in Texas."
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) May 24, 2022

A few minutes later, Kayyem doubles down:

"We need the federal government to say right now, everyone is essentially safe harbor right now in terms of immigration status."
Again, she suggests it's because of "all the politics going on in Texas right now" dealing with immigration.
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) May 24, 2022

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 24, 2022 06:14 PM (Ynyl9)

325 He's fully transitioned to dead.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (ptqGC)


Next he'll transition to a large group of maggots.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2022 06:14 PM (OK0YZ)

326 I've typed-deleted so many times. I wish I knew how to stop these evil acts. I don't.
Posted by: gp at May 24, 2022 06:12 PM (qpX6U)

Well at least we know that what the government isn't doing is not helping, and what they do is aiding it.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 24, 2022 06:15 PM (eoQWY)

327 Maybe, just maybe, tolerance is a grave wicked sin.

Posted by: Heavy Squats at May 24, 2022 06:05 PM (T/BKS)

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The book "The Tragedy of American Compassion" was supposed to be a cautionary tale, not an instruction manual.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at May 24, 2022 06:15 PM (19Oib)

328 Okay. Trace Gallagher at Fox said he was angry with his mother who worked at the school, and that's how he got inside.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:08 PM (ptqGC)
*****
I think he was talking about Sandy Hook.
Posted by: redridinghood

Sandy Hook. The elementary school that had been closed for 5 years where the shootings took place, and the Lanza House was bulldozed into the ground. The sloppy sniper (fake and gay) David Wheeler who also just happened to play the role as one of the parents of the kids who were killed. And the entire community received new houses and shit while having to sign NDAs. Can't look at the evidence, cattle, new Connecticut Law signed right after said so...
Time to have a conversation about about Sandy Hook...

Posted by: Heavy Squats at May 24, 2022 06:15 PM (T/BKS)

329 321 Elementary schools in Texas are locked up right during the day. You have to buzz the door and be let in at every one I've been to.

Posted by: brak at May 24, 2022 06:13 PM (KR4lF)

++++

See 296

Posted by: washrivergal at May 24, 2022 06:15 PM (TY4FX)

330 Alright kids our chaplain is going in for some surgery. Pray whether you're a believer or not.

Posted by: blaster at May 24, 2022 06:15 PM (9VeU0)

331 I haven't read any reports yet so perhaps this has been asked and answered: How did this guy get into the building?

I had occasion to visit an elementary a few weeks ago. I was invited and expected and they still had to buzz me in through the locked, security doors after they ID'd me by voice and visually.

Posted by: Giorgio at May 24, 2022 06:16 PM (Msys3)

332 18, is this one of those 37 year old high schooler undocumenteds I hear so much about?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 24, 2022 06:16 PM (3NKiY)

333 Why do they shoot the little ones? Plenty of big assholes to shoot

Posted by: Head puddi at May 24, 2022 06:16 PM (xMh1R)

334 Lord have mercy.

And that's all I'm going to say about this right now.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2022 06:16 PM (RkC6l)

335 Prayers up for you Fen. God has this and you in His hand.

Posted by: Moki at May 24, 2022 06:16 PM (JrN/x)

336 Alex Jones sez Vegas was a Saudi op, that there were dead bodies all over the place inside hotel rooms. Apparently an effort to demonstrate what they COULD do if.... something or other. I forget what, exactly.

Posted by: BurtTC

Allegedly it was to takeout the current Crown Prince who allegedly was in Vegas at the time so that the other faction could take power and the bystanders were killed for cover. The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, a couple of weeks later, did his famous lockdown of that faction in a hotel and divested them of assets. Khashoggi got killed in the Turkish embassy a few days later.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:16 PM (Iq9dF)

337 Prayers up, Fen.
For you and a lot of others in need.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 24, 2022 06:16 PM (jTmQV)

338 Would not surprise me if he was linked to the FBI - they were tipped on him and did nothing, they were running an op with him. We've seen it too many times before.

How do we know that this couldn't be related to the border patrol in that the BP lost control of an asset and had to have it put down?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 24, 2022 06:16 PM (AHeqJ)

339 " CNN flack Juliette Kayyem demands Biden suspend immigration enforcement in the area of Uvalde"


What immigration enforcement. is she talking about? There is practically none going on.

Posted by: Ripley at May 24, 2022 06:17 PM (MxEKc)

340 wtf, how did the guy walk right past the "No Gun Zone" safety sign? Those signs are there for a purpose. We need Bigger Signs.

yes, /s

Posted by: illiniwek at May 24, 2022 06:17 PM (Cus5s)

341 ((satrose))

yes, just read that this is a town of only 15,000 people. I cannot imagine what these people are going through.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2022 06:17 PM (Y+l9t)

342 Ah, okay - I found my answer above.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2022 06:17 PM (Msys3)

343 FenelonSpoke

As you know, prayers ascending. Get the good drugs! May you be in recover fast and home soon.

You have a wonderful marriage and a great husband, but I have to give you this advice.

Do not pat the butt of the cute surgeon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at May 24, 2022 06:17 PM (u82oZ)

344 Alright kids our chaplain is going in for some surgery. Pray whether you're a believer or not.

Posted by: blaster at May 24, 2022 06:15 PM

Prayers up.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2022 06:17 PM (RkC6l)

345 See 296

Posted by: washrivergal at May 24, 2022 06:15 PM (TY4FX)

295. I don't know what happened unless someone got zapped.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 24, 2022 06:18 PM (TY4FX)

346 Good luck in your surgery, Fen.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 24, 2022 06:18 PM (eoQWY)

347 CNN flack Juliette Kayyem demands Biden suspend immigration enforcement in the area of Uvalde"


What immigration enforcement. is she talking about? There is practically none going on.
Posted by: Ripley at May 24, 2022 06:17 PM (MxEKc)

Just fucking lies. That’s all they do.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2022 06:18 PM (igeX7)

348 I want to know how, if being chased by authorities, he has time to get out of a car and make it into a supposedly locked building?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 06:18 PM (qoaQk)

349 Alright kids our chaplain is going in for some surgery. Pray whether you're a believer or not.

Posted by: blaster at May 24, 2022 06:15 PM (9VeU0)


Prayers up. In positive news, I have two friends from church who have both recently beat breast cancer and stage four lung cancer. My girlfriend survived breast cancer years ago, and it came back, but she's clear now and having reconstructive surgery.

Prayers work.

In light of others going through way worse, I hesitate to mention I had a biopsy for a possible melanoma on my scalp yesterday. Would appreciate prayers as well.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:18 PM (ptqGC)

350 have to be at the hospital at 4:45 tomorrow morning. I expect the surgery will be around 7:00

Fen, you are braver than I. Mr hospital coward.
Praying for you.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 24, 2022 06:19 PM (Iz2Z7)

351 also at twitchy:

14 children and a teacher dead.

Another shooting. And the GOP won’t do a damn thing about it.

Who the hell are we if we cannot keep our kids safe.

This is preventable. Our inaction is a choice.

We need nationwide, comprehensive, commonsense gun safety NOW.
— Gavin Newsom (@GavinNewsom)

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 24, 2022 06:19 PM (Ynyl9)

352 Oh, and, Fen? You know you *have to comment while you're coming off of anesthesia.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2022 06:19 PM (RkC6l)

353 Prayers and hugs fen.

Posted by: spypeach at May 24, 2022 06:19 PM (eWCZe)

354 Prayers, Jane.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2022 06:19 PM (igeX7)

355 Sandy hook killer shot out a floor to ceiling window right next to a locked door

A town in the Idaho also passed a law that citizen must own firearm

Posted by: Yo! Ultra Ultra MAGA at May 24, 2022 06:19 PM (FqeDb)

356 319 In the big Florida shooting they did have a security guard. He and the county cops hid until guys from a different county arrived and went in.

Posted by: Oldcat
----------------------
Oldcat, the school guy was a licensed experienced deputy delegated to school duties--not a rent a cop. Like you said, city cops from another jurisdiction led the way into the school while the school deputy did little of nothing. Turns out that the now deposed Sheriff Israel and the school deputy were buddies and that deputy was assigned there as a cushy duty to ease into retirement.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:20 PM (Iq9dF)

357 Jane D'oh

Prayers ascending for you.

Sure it's not from a hair pulling contest with that crazy woman? I'd put money on you to deck her with a stiletto heel.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at May 24, 2022 06:20 PM (u82oZ)

358 D'oh! No cancer allowed!!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 24, 2022 06:20 PM (Iz2Z7)

359 Prayers for you Fen and the Doc and family.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2022 06:20 PM (Msys3)

360 As to how he got in, purely speculative, but there's a runoff in Texas today, and elementary schools are often polling locations. When they are, they're less secure than usual because people are coming and going. Seems unlikely that this is the explanation, otherwise more adults might have been shot, but not impossible.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 24, 2022 06:20 PM (ppBhU)

361 In light of others going through way worse, I hesitate to mention I had a biopsy for a possible melanoma on my scalp yesterday. Would appreciate prayers as well.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:18 PM (ptqGC)

Prayers up for you Jane. Time to get a nice hat or two.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 24, 2022 06:21 PM (eoQWY)

362 How did this guy get into the building?

I had occasion to visit an elementary a few weeks ago. I was invited and expected and they still had to buzz me in through the locked, security doors after they ID'd me by voice and visually.


That's one of my questions as well. At my wife's school, every exterior door is locked from the outside AND the inside, so even students can't let their friends in. A window maybe?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 24, 2022 06:21 PM (eyxn4)

363 Again, half the problem is people thinking, "It won't happen here".

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 24, 2022 06:21 PM (Qhnrt)

364 14 children and a teacher dead.

Another shooting. And the GOP won’t do a damn thing about it.

*

Serious question:

Did the shooter kill himself when men with guns were approaching, or did a man with a gun kill him?

There's a solution in the answer.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 24, 2022 06:21 PM (rjyzh)

365 D'oh! No cancer allowed!!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 24, 2022 06:20 PM (Iz2Z7)

Lol. Had most of my nose removed in March. Having fourth surgery to rebuild it next week.

I don't want to deal with melanoma. I feel okay about it, though.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:21 PM (ptqGC)

366 Fen, I'll be looking forward to seeing your comments after the procedure. Everybody here loves you bunches.

Posted by: gp at May 24, 2022 06:22 PM (qpX6U)

367 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:18 PM (ptqGC)

Prayers coming your way

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 06:22 PM (bs+z0)

368 333 Why do they shoot the little ones? Plenty of big assholes to shoot

Posted by: Head puddi
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Because the spree killers deliberately want to cause pain for others because they hate themselves and blame the world for that pain.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:22 PM (Iq9dF)

369 F Cancer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at May 24, 2022 06:22 PM (u82oZ)

370 David Hogg is strangely quiet on Twitter.

Perhaps he's peddling to Uvalda as we type?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:22 PM (ptqGC)

371 re 348: maybe he ignored the "no right turn on red" signs.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 24, 2022 06:22 PM (Ynyl9)

372 Jane, Prayers. I have an alternate phone # and will email it to you so we can talk. Love You.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 06:23 PM (qoaQk)

373 Someone must have already said it but that photo said transitioning to me.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 24, 2022 06:23 PM (jNAzB)

374 Be careful Fen when coming out of anesthesia. If you start babbling and speaking gibberish, you might be mistaken for a Pentecostal.


Posted by: Archer at May 24, 2022 06:23 PM (gmo/4)

375 In the big Florida shooting they did have a security guard. He and the county cops hid until guys from a different county arrived and went in.

Posted by: Oldcat
----------------------
Oldcat, the school guy was a licensed experienced deputy delegated to school duties--not a rent a cop. Like you said, city cops from another jurisdiction led the way into the school while the school deputy did little of nothing. Turns out that the now deposed Sheriff Israel and the school deputy were buddies and that deputy was assigned there as a cushy duty to ease into retirement.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:20 PM (Iq9dF)

No excuse if you are a rent-a-cop, or just a regular man or woman. If you are tasked as a guard, you do what you can to save the kids. I have no kids and a heart of stone and I know this.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 24, 2022 06:23 PM (eoQWY)

376 There was noticeably very little brass on the hotel room in Vegas.

Oh well, nothing to see here, just a random act of violence, no one will ever know the motive.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 24, 2022 06:23 PM (rjyzh)

377 The media is already sharing photos of the butcher with the white balance/exposure cranked way up. Take that photo and do a correction and you'll see what color he's really supposed to be

Posted by: Citizen Freeman at May 24, 2022 06:23 PM (FPuSC)

378 F Cancer.

Because it's FenelonSpoke, you're only allowed to say "Gosh darn, cancer."

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 24, 2022 06:23 PM (ppBhU)

379 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:18 PM (ptqGC)

Done Jane. There is little worse than the wait.

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2022 06:23 PM (dscaa)

380 Allegedly it was to takeout the current Crown Prince who allegedly was in Vegas at the time so that the other faction could take power and the bystanders were killed for cover. The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, a couple of weeks later, did his famous lockdown of that faction in a hotel and divested them of assets. Khashoggi got killed in the Turkish embassy a few days later.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:16 PM (Iq9dF)

I'm sure that's all just coinkydink. It's kind of fascinating, when you have some inkling how the world actually works, and compare it to how the narrative pretends the world works.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 24, 2022 06:23 PM (YV6PJ)

381 Jane, Prayers. I have an alternate phone # and will email it to you so we can talk. Love You.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 06:23 PM (qoaQk)

Great! I miss you. Have you heard from Hogmartin? I've been texting him but he's gone silent.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:23 PM (ptqGC)

382 Ben Had

♫ Good afternoon! ♪

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at May 24, 2022 06:23 PM (u82oZ)

383 Prayers for you too Jane!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2022 06:24 PM (Msys3)

384 This community already has a huge problem with the cartels. It would have been easy to be a mule and get cash for guns.

Regarding security for elementary schools in Texas - yes in the larger towns there is a buzz in system, but this is in the sticks - I cant emphasize this enough.

Just down the road (Hwy 90) you will see signs like: "Dont pick up any hitchhikers", etc. I am very serious. It is just a war zone. I know several ranchers (my former CPA lived in Knippa, 4th generation ranching family). ALL THE TIME they get alerts to "shelter in place" as Border Patrol runs down smugglers. My ladies from church come in and relate how many times / who had to be on alert that week.

Posted by: Satrose at May 24, 2022 06:24 PM (nycWw)

385 ultiple children were shot & killed at an Elementary School in Uvalde, TX. Multiple LE sources tells me the shooter was a murder suspect, there was a bolo out for his truck— A pursuit ended near Robb Elementary—He ran into the school, started firing. Limited info.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2022 06:24 PM (Y+l9t)

386 Prayers for you too Jane!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2022 06:24 PM (Msys3)

Thanks, but let's all focus on Fen now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:24 PM (ptqGC)

387 oh, and I'm not a prayful person, but good luck to Fen and whoever else needs it.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 24, 2022 06:24 PM (Ynyl9)

388 35
Lol. Had most of my nose removed in March. Having fourth surgery to rebuild it next week.

I don't want to deal with melanoma. I feel okay about it, though.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:21 PM (ptqGC)

Basal cell? Mohs? Reason I ask is I have a nice " bump" on one nostril. I don't wanna do it!!

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 06:25 PM (Vr12I)

389
When will find out he "was known" to the FBI?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 24, 2022 06:25 PM (zuD91)

390 Quick googling says around $2k?

I didn't have that much money when I was a teen.
Posted by: 18-1


Even if he did, how would he pass a background check?

The gun was purchased by somebody else. And I have no idea. It was likely not his rifle.
Angry, neurotic kid, and somebody fed him that rifle. Somebody with money.
The Cartels are here, and they mean to be in control and make more money. And create fear and chaos first. And get "Hispanics" to appeal to THEM to give them protection. Like the Mafia did in Italy.
My guess is that someone (Cartel soldier) gave him the rifle and said "go to it!"

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at May 24, 2022 06:25 PM (vcOmj)

391 So much conflicting info.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2022 06:25 PM (igeX7)

392 Prayers for you too Jane!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2022 06:24 PM (Msys3)

Thanks, but let's all focus on Fen now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:24 PM (ptqGC)

God is a multitasker

Posted by: Oldcat at May 24, 2022 06:25 PM (eoQWY)

393 Commentary from recovery room will be outstanding.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 24, 2022 06:26 PM (8E/wP)

394 Basal cell? Mohs? Reason I ask is I have a nice " bump" on one nostril. I don't wanna do it!!

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 06:25 PM (Vr12I)

Basel cell. Mohs. Very, very tiny spot. Went very, very deep and spread out. DON'T WAIT.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:26 PM (ptqGC)

395 356. A sworn officer doing the old duck and cover while unarmed kids get slaughtered is even worse. But hey, he got his pension back, so…silver lining there.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 24, 2022 06:26 PM (rBAkF)

396 If there is a shooter at my school, I have a cunning plan.

I could not live with myself if, through inaction, kids in my care were harmed.

Unlike that cowardly, pretend man cop in the Florida school. Who was given his job back after being fired. ** Spit **

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at May 24, 2022 06:26 PM (u82oZ)

397 Jane, I talked to him a couple of weeks ago.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 06:26 PM (qoaQk)

398 No excuse if you are a rent-a-cop, or just a regular man or woman. If you are tasked as a guard, you do what you can to save the kids. I have no kids and a heart of stone and I know this.

Posted by: Oldcat
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Not excusing the guy at all. He was fully armed and actually knew of the suspect and did nothing for crucial minutes while reportedly hearing shots coming from the building.

As an aside, old training doctrine for police in active spree killings was to wait and concentrate for an entry team. The newer one that is generally taught now is to engage a spree killer as soon as possible even if the police officer has no backup.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:27 PM (Iq9dF)

399 Dude looks like the young hispanic guy on the Target Gabbie Giffords shot her AR15 at and used in her campaign ads....before SHE got shot and became a sooooper anti gun Saint..

Posted by: Birddog at May 24, 2022 06:27 PM (uAI4S)

400 Open borders are every Marxist's dream

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2022 06:27 PM (2JoB8)

401 Prayers for you, too, Jane. I'll be bothering all the appropriate saints for you and Fen.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2022 06:27 PM (RkC6l)

402 Braenyard

I doubt FenelonSpoke will swear as much as Jewells45.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at May 24, 2022 06:27 PM (u82oZ)

403 Because the spree killers deliberately want to cause pain for others because they hate themselves and blame the world for that pain.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:22 PM (Iq9dF)

If he hated himself it would be the one thing he was right about in his wretched worthless life.

Some people just hate everyone else. But only God knows which it is in this case.

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2022 06:27 PM (dscaa)

404 Got a close buddy with a working ranch close to Eagle Pass. Went deer hunting down there annually until last few years.

He has abandoned his ranch.

Posted by: Crouching Chigger at May 24, 2022 06:27 PM (aknQX)

405 I sincerely hope this POS rots in Hell for eternity.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 24, 2022 06:27 PM (XSRBF)

406 Pause to appreciate that the cops knew what was happening and where he was headed and didn't want to shoot him because he was Hispanic.

You know it's true.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 24, 2022 06:28 PM (rjyzh)

407 Jane - you are in my prayers. Best wishes to you.

Posted by: Satrose at May 24, 2022 06:28 PM (nycWw)

408 Any of these people who get captured, they should be publicly burned alive. I want to hear their death screams.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2022 06:28 PM (Vgw1E)

409 Fen, God Bless. Be Well.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 24, 2022 06:29 PM (QZ/dC)

410 394 Basal cell? Mohs? Reason I ask is I have a nice " bump" on one nostril. I don't wanna do it!!

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 06:25 PM (Vr12I)

Basel cell. Mohs. Very, very tiny spot. Went very, very deep and spread out. DON'T WAIT.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:26 PM (ptqGC)

Tthanks for info. My bump is too big to ignore. Raised, not recessed. IT'S a tumah. Scared mself to death by looking at online photos of surgeries.

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 06:29 PM (Vr12I)

411 NaCly, dearest. You are a good shepherd.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 06:29 PM (qoaQk)

412 Eagle Pass used to be a sleepy border town. And Piedras wasn’t bad.

Now? Yeesh.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2022 06:29 PM (igeX7)

413 If the fellow on the horse was whipping the poor Hispanics, just imagine someone actually shooting one in the back.

And a cross dresser at that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 24, 2022 06:29 PM (rjyzh)

414
I'm going with the 24 hour rule here

We WILL get fooled again.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2022 06:29 PM (63Dwl)

415 Jane, I talked to him a couple of weeks ago.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 06:26 PM (qoaQk)

I hope everything is well with him and his "chicken ranch." Lol. Miss him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 06:29 PM (ptqGC)

416 62
If he was a student there he probably had a way in. Knew which door was open, or had a key card etc.
----
This wasn't his school, he was a high schooler.

Posted by: Ciampino at May 24, 2022 06:29 PM (qfLjt)

417 >>>I doubt FenelonSpoke will swear as much as Jewells45.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
------------------

But it will be a doozie of an OpEd.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 24, 2022 06:29 PM (8E/wP)

418 Nobody is happier about this today than the gun-grabbing Democrats. Right now there are high level meetings going on about how to market this and not let it "go to waste". Then again it's after 5:00, they'll resume tomorrow morning after a good night's sleep.

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2022 06:29 PM (dscaa)

419 Fen and Jane, I've just raised you up in prayer.

In light of today's atrocity, I looked up whether teachers could conceal carry in Florida.

Not only can they, but there's a Guardian Program (https://www.fldoe.org/safe-schools/guardian-program.stml) for training and certification of school employees, even teachers, in many counties.

I am calling to sign up tomorrow.



Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 24, 2022 06:30 PM (REJkJ)

420 Restaurant in Piedras (forget the name) claimed to have invented the nacho.

Posted by: Crouching Chigger at May 24, 2022 06:30 PM (aknQX)

421 I'm sure that's all just coinkydink. It's kind of fascinating, when you have some inkling how the world actually works, and compare it to how the narrative pretends the world works.

Posted by: BurtTC
--------------------------------
Classic example is that the Allies were reading German highest level codes using Enigma which arguably won the Battle of the Atlantic that was critical for D Day to occur. Wasn't revealed until 30 years later or so. Changed the history of WWII considerably.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:30 PM (Iq9dF)

422 I'm going with the 24 hour rule here

*

I dare you to find the 180 page document from the leftist shooter from last week.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 24, 2022 06:30 PM (rjyzh)

423 As an aside, old training doctrine for police in active spree killings was to wait and concentrate for an entry team. The newer one that is generally taught now is to engage a spree killer as soon as possible even if the police officer has no backup.
Posted by: whig

I find it interesting that even our parish's security team trains on the "locate, close with, and engage enemy" syllabus - and has for quite some time.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2022 06:30 PM (Msys3)

424 I pray all goes well, Fen.


As for this shooting, the one week rule still applies. All of our wretched media will exploit this for political gain. In about a week, we might get some accurate-ish details. Until then, the ghouls will say ghoulish things. Do pray for the families. Can't even fathom the horror of this.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 24, 2022 06:30 PM (sAmhv)

425 The shooter is the Devil, those people that seek to profit from this event - in this case, the Left- are his minions. Constantine was an average movie, but a glimpse of the reality of our world.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 24, 2022 06:31 PM (QZ/dC)

426 I just pray this wasn't another situation where the cops wasted time setting up a perimeter and directing incoming units while listening to gunfire and screaming inside.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 06:31 PM (t3/qz)

427 He's fully transitioned to dead.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2022 05:34 PM (ptqGC)

Twice to "Overload", then to "Dead"

Code of the Scanners

Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2022 06:31 PM (vpT5O)

428 Politics aside just take a moment to feel for 14 families whose lives were just destroyed. I couldn't imagine continuing to live after that.
And I also acknowledge that this happens on a daily basis in major cities across America, just not in the same headline grabbing incident.
Unfortunately, I fear we're only starting to see the beginning of events like this, it's going to be a lot worse with a country full of desperate, homeless, unemployed people, which is only a year or two away.

Posted by: Who is Brandon Galt? at May 24, 2022 06:32 PM (vPiXK)

429 Is anybody buying the girl he texted before the shooting line "I don't know him"? They were using heart emojis!

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at May 24, 2022 06:32 PM (MFZ8i)

430 Then again sometimes you only get true inconvenient details near the beginning and then they are never heard again.

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2022 06:32 PM (dscaa)

431 >>Tthanks for info. My bump is too big to ignore. Raised, not recessed. IT'S a tumah. Scared mself to death by looking at online photos of surgeries.

Posted by: kraken


Kraken, I've had the surgery three times. Twice with 12 stitches in my forehead. It's not a terrible procedure. Annoying, but not terrible.

They'll go in, cut it out, and make sure it's all gone. If not, they go in again. No worries. It's usually very successful.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 24, 2022 06:32 PM (XSRBF)

432 Didn't know about this. Has it been reported in the media at all? NYC subway shooting suspect is charged with murder for randomly shooting Goldman Sachs worker dead on the train after muttering 'no phones':
https://is.gd/mP2Ljl

Posted by: Ciampino at May 24, 2022 06:32 PM (qfLjt)

433 Nobody is happier about this today than the gun-grabbing Democrats.

It's darkly funny that they are using this as an example of why we need gun control, in a town that is close to the Mexican border.

Because there is no way that guns could possibly be smuggled in from Mexico, after all.

Posted by: The ARC Of History! at May 24, 2022 06:33 PM (I2/tG)

434 Cat Ass Trophy, it's beginning to sound like that.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2022 06:33 PM (qoaQk)

435 >>>Didn't know about this. Has it been reported in the media at all? NYC subway shooting suspect is charged with murder for randomly shooting Goldman Sachs worker dead on the train after muttering 'no phones':
https://is.gd/mP2Ljl

Posted by: Ciampino

NY Post had it up an hour or so ago.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 24, 2022 06:33 PM (XSRBF)

436 I am also a veteran of Mohs treatment.
There is life afterward. But, yes, get a sun hat.
I have a big stetson I wear outside.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 24, 2022 06:34 PM (jTmQV)

437 lemme guess:

1) this is my fault (white male conservative gun owner)
2) they want my guns

gawd this is horrible
why don't we put a cop in a school to maybe stop this?

Posted by: DB at May 24, 2022 06:34 PM (geLO8)

438 Tonypete

Stay strong. Even slightly visible perimeter defense is a deterrent. And word gets out. Avoid your church is the story.

May you not need to, but shoot on target if needed, until any possible danger is gone.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at May 24, 2022 06:34 PM (u82oZ)

439 The left will dance on the graves of these kids while passing an unrestricted abortion bill.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 06:34 PM (t3/qz)

440 FWIW, Border Patrol has a checkpoint right at Uvalde's western city limit. Uvalde is 40 miles from where Paul grew up.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at May 24, 2022 06:34 PM (SRRAx)

441 Mexico Buffalo Bill https://twitter.com/_doughnutcat/status/1529224406014345217

Posted by: Jimbo jones at May 24, 2022 06:34 PM (g19P3)

442 Prays up for you Fen. Cancer survivor here. Lots of us are still around.

Posted by: pawn at May 24, 2022 06:34 PM (kYVzH)

443 321 These bastards go where no one can harm them while they are doing evil
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2022 06:14 PM (2JoB

I have a memory of a school shooter at a college, probably in Texas, and the students went to their trucks and got their rifles and shot back.

I may be remembering this incorrectly.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 24, 2022 06:34 PM (XH+no)

444 Been watching Agenda Free TV on Youtube and the amount of conflicting reports and misinformation being reported is incredible.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at May 24, 2022 06:35 PM (MFZ8i)

445 If he hated himself it would be the one thing he was right about in his wretched worthless life.

Some people just hate everyone else. But only God knows which it is in this case.

Posted by: ...
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I studied this depressing school shooting topic for several years for professional reasons and almost always it came down to a weird kid (or in Columbine--kids) that simply wanted the world to burn. Most of them had absent fathers but not all. One MS shooter captured by an armed principal and asked why he did it stated to Principal _______ after captured, 'they done wronged me'.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:35 PM (Iq9dF)

446 Has Chuck Schumer climbed on top of the bodies yet, to call for more gun control?

Posted by: DB at May 24, 2022 06:35 PM (geLO8)

447 Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 24, 2022 06:30 PM (REJkJ)

Thank you. Schools need more teachers like you.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 24, 2022 06:35 PM (nC+QA)

448 The newer one that is generally taught now is to engage a spree killer as soon as possible even if the police officer has no backup.

Yeah, at the shooting at an Oregon community college six years ago, two local cops showed up, and immediately engaged the shooter without waiting for backup.

Saved a lot of lives.

Posted by: The ARC Of History! at May 24, 2022 06:36 PM (I2/tG)

449 "CNN flack Juliette Kayyem demands Biden suspend immigration enforcement in the area of Uvalde"


Never heard of her but a little research shows she is a highly credentialed Deep State insider with all the rights friends and education and jobs. She has those cold, cunning Hillary dyes in every picture of her. Not somebody I want making border policy.

Posted by: Ripley at May 24, 2022 06:36 PM (MxEKc)

450 Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at May 24, 2022 06:35 PM (MFZ8i)

Absolutely.. One report says he killed his grandmother another says he tried to kill her. One report says border patrol chased him, another says local cops responded to a call from the school

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 06:36 PM (bs+z0)

451
Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Thoughts and prayers are not enough.

After years of nothing else, we are becoming a nation of anguished screams.

We simply need legislators willing to stop the scourge of gun violence in America that is murdering our children.
3:09 PM · May 24, 2022

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at May 24, 2022 06:37 PM (MFZ8i)

452 431

Kraken, I've had the surgery three times. Twice with 12 stitches in my forehead. It's not a terrible procedure. Annoying, but not terrible.

They'll go in, cut it out, and make sure it's all gone. If not, they go in again. No worries. It's usually very successful.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 24, 2022 06:32 PM (XSRBF)a

Thanks Wyatt. I just freaked myself with Doctor Google.

Posted by: kraken at May 24, 2022 06:37 PM (Vr12I)

453 >>@HillaryClinton
Thoughts and prayers are not enough.

After years of nothing else, we are becoming a nation of anguished screams.


Yes, we remember your caterwauling after your loss in 2016

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 24, 2022 06:37 PM (XSRBF)

454 449 "CNN flack Juliette Kayyem demands Biden suspend immigration enforcement in the area of Uvalde"


So I guess she thinks Border Patrol was chasing an illegal ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2022 06:37 PM (bs+z0)

455 CaliGirl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ University_of_Texas_tower_shooting

Mind the gap.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at May 24, 2022 06:38 PM (u82oZ)

456 Kraken - MOHs surgery is not bad. Had it on my arm. I still worship the sun, so will probably have it again.

Posted by: Satrose at May 24, 2022 06:38 PM (nycWw)

457 >>>Thanks Wyatt. I just freaked myself with Doctor Google.

Posted by: kraken


Always a little scary, and they sometimes dig deep to get it all, but it's usually stitches, some rest, and good to go in a few days,

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 24, 2022 06:38 PM (XSRBF)

458 Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Thoughts and prayers are not enough.

After years of nothing else, we are becoming a nation of anguished screams.

We simply need legislators willing to stop the scourge of gun violence in America that is murdering our children.
3:09 PM · May 24, 2022

Who would have guessed she'd be the first to walk over the still warm bodies of dead children to push an agenda. She's a vile human being.

Posted by: spypeach at May 24, 2022 06:38 PM (eWCZe)

459 Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:35 PM (Iq9dF)

I had a feeling you had some expertise here, but I had to shoot my shot. I have little expertise, I run mainly on observation and instinct and fill in gaps here and there with knowledge from those like you. Lazy shit.

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2022 06:38 PM (dscaa)

460

They'll go in, cut it out, and make sure it's all gone. If not, they go in again. No worries. It's usually very successful.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at
-----------------------

I've got seven on my cheek, it's more of an inconvenience if you get it done.
If not it's a real problem.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 24, 2022 06:38 PM (8E/wP)

461 Police also revealed on Tuesday afternoon that the suspect was stopped by police 11 minutes after the shooting on Sunday - but that the cops let him go.

'The officers were responding to the shooting, there was a description put out. They observed him walking away from the subway. They stopped him, talked to him, they were satisfied with his answers. He had a different color shirt on and backpack. It was a different description...he had altered his appearance.'

That wascawwy wabbit.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 06:39 PM (t3/qz)

462 She's a vile human being.

Posted by: spypeach at May 24, 2022 06:38 PM (eWCZe)

Hey!!!

Posted by: A vile human being at May 24, 2022 06:39 PM (dscaa)

463 We simply need legislators willing to stop the scourge of gun violence in America that is murdering our children.

*

Sure seems to me that all it would take is banned blacks and messicans from possessing guns.

Go for it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 24, 2022 06:40 PM (rjyzh)

464 For any of you involved in public schools either as staff or parents, look into the FASTER program for training teachers and administrators as it is one of the older training courses designed specifically for school safety and armed staff.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:40 PM (Iq9dF)

465 455 CaliGirl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ University_of_Texas_tower_shooting

Mind the gap.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at May 24, 2022 06:38 PM (u82oZ)

That may be the one. I think I read/saw John Lott speaking or writing about this and I recall people getting their own weapons to stop a shooter.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 24, 2022 06:40 PM (XH+no)

466 I have a memory of a school shooter at a college, probably in Texas, and the students went to their trucks and got their rifles and shot back.

I may be remembering this incorrectly.
Posted by: CaliGir

That was the University of Texas in '66. Charles Whitman climbed a tower and shot up the place.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2022 06:40 PM (Msys3)

467 Among the skin cancers, basal cell is the okayest. Followed by squamous. Melanoma is evil.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 06:41 PM (t3/qz)

468 Whatever has happened this last few years, Trump stopping that evil mud-dwelling swampcunt from ascending her rightful throne was worth all of it.

Posted by: A vile human being at May 24, 2022 06:41 PM (dscaa)

469 The hatred coming out of Democrats fuels this. They solve nothing. They improve nothing. They are anti everything, an incoherent mass of laziness, hate and envy. The evil they do feeds and fuels even more evil, as this will. Biden's handlers are crafting the words now that will bear this out. More dead innocents being fed into the mouth of Moloch. Very sad.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at May 24, 2022 06:41 PM (eJDwZ)

470 Apparently several of the dead kids and a lot of the other students parents work for Customs/Border Patrol.

NY shooter...19 prior arrests, several for gun crimes, served two years of a 3year sentence, was arrested april 2020 again carrying a gun...was still waiting on court date for that charge.(Could have just violated him from parole, put him back inside...zero doubt he was felon in possession, mandatory 5years.)

Posted by: Birddog at May 24, 2022 06:41 PM (uAI4S)

471 whig at May 24, 2022 06:40 PM (Iq9dF)

Thanks!

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 24, 2022 06:42 PM (REJkJ)

472 New, though also enraging, post.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 24, 2022 06:42 PM (nC+QA)

473 Trump just delayed the inevitable and made the left more vengeful.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 24, 2022 06:43 PM (t3/qz)

474 >>>I may be remembering this incorrectly.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 24, 2022 06:34 PM (XH+no)
-----------

Think it ended with trial by buckshot.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 24, 2022 06:43 PM (8E/wP)

475 >For any of you involved in public schools either as staff or parents



Staff
yeah we can't have a gun on school property, even in our car in the parking lot.

I have a concealed carry permit from the county sheriff but it does me no good at work

Posted by: DB at May 24, 2022 06:43 PM (geLO8)

476 Whitman was found to have a glioblastoma, a type of brain tumor, pressing against regions of the brain thought to be responsible for the regulation of strong emotions.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 24, 2022 06:43 PM (0mUYx)

477 Whatever has happened this last few years, Trump stopping that evil mud-dwelling swampcunt from ascending her rightful throne was worth all of it.

*

That's a large part of their anger and punitive treatment of us (inflation especially).

Hillary was supposed to be in place when the Great Reset occurred. We / Trump f*cked that up. Everything since then has been punishment, and they aren't done yet.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 24, 2022 06:44 PM (rjyzh)

478 Saw guns on campus in 1969 at Hollywood high. ROTC indoor shooting range.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 24, 2022 06:45 PM (0mUYx)

479 Nood.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at May 24, 2022 06:46 PM (u82oZ)

480 I have a memory of a school shooter at a college, probably in Texas, and the students went to their trucks and got their rifles and shot back.

I may be remembering this incorrectly.
Posted by: CaliGirl

University of Texas at Austin. Charles Whitman, had climbed the clock tower and started shooting at people. Students grabbed rifles from their trucks, captain pin down while a cop raised up the stairs confronted him and shotting..

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 24, 2022 06:46 PM (9DOwv)

481 DB at May 24, 2022 06:43 PM (geLO

One of my students asked me whether I cced. I smiled archly and replied, "Wouldn't you like to know?" Between us morons and 'ettes, I don't even have a gun yet...but I will before the next school year begins.

A colleague told me he cces every day. He said the chances of being caught were low, and he'd rather be fired than dead.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at May 24, 2022 06:47 PM (REJkJ)

482 I had a feeling you had some expertise here, but I had to shoot my shot. I have little expertise, I run mainly on observation and instinct and fill in gaps here and there with knowledge from those like you. Lazy shit.

Posted by: ...
-----------------
I also have a personal view of these school shootings. My hometown suffered one of the early ones and my wife was student teaching at the time at another school in the county. It could have been her as a casualty.

Major issue in confronting spree killers is you go medieval on them immediately--fire extinguishers are excellent as both a blunt object, heavy thrown object, and offensive weapon via spraying at the eyes of the killer if you can't carry. You can equip your computer bag/backpack with relatively lightweight bulletproof panels that will stop the common AR 223 or less, book cases, etc. are excellent bullet stops, etc. Desks, notebooks, books, etc should be thrown in a hail of attacking by students because the natural impulse toward thrown items is to track those and not targets.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:47 PM (Iq9dF)

483 Erik In Texas

Write the names down. The list is long.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at May 24, 2022 06:47 PM (u82oZ)

484 We had billion$ at the drop of a hat for defense of Ukraine. But where is the money to defend our schools?

Posted by: torabora at May 24, 2022 06:49 PM (Y274z)

485 Now is the time to buy, Buy, BUY!

Before they somehow succeed in separating the market from the buyers. Not that inflation isn't doing it already, but it's time to make your budget SCREAM on this one.

A pallet of ammo is not too much. Too much is not too much. Oh, and this applies to all accessories, too. How long d'ya think that a scope costing more than (example) $400* will require a $200 federal Class III license and anal exam?

* most any quality/tactical optic, be it scope, dot, holographic, etc., will come in at +$400 MSRP.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 24, 2022 06:50 PM (QzJWU)

486
So far in 2022 in Chicago:

Shot and Killed: 212
Total Shot: 943

I think we all know where 99% of the ALL "gun violence" is.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 24, 2022 06:50 PM (dyd6F)

487 Video of shooter entering the building:
twitter.com/PrivateEiland/status/1529218591823831040

It was originally posted on Facebook.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at May 24, 2022 06:50 PM (MFZ8i)

488 Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:47 PM (Iq9dF)

Ugh. Thanks.

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2022 06:51 PM (dscaa)

489 A colleague told me he cces every day. He said the chances of being caught were low, and he'd rather be fired than dead.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom
-----------------------
Depressing book but Chris Bird has an excellent book out on Mass Killers that you can find on Amazon with excellent strategies how to deal with them. He had a varied career including British military and firearms trainer--then journalist and author.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2022 06:51 PM (Iq9dF)

490 Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news

Take the top 5 Dem run cities out of the statistics, and we are safer than Belgium. Or used to be.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at May 24, 2022 06:51 PM (u82oZ)

491 If the history of the 20th century has taught us anything, it is that disarming the citizenry usually ends in a lot worse happening than this (as bad as it is). Just ask 6M Jews, 30M kulaks, and 2M Cambodians, and 100M+ Chinese. Oh...you can't...

Posted by: FriscoYoda at May 24, 2022 07:01 PM (S7une)

492 Quoting Shillary: "We simply need legislators willing to stop the scourge of gun violence in America that is murdering our children."

Well, bitch, your side had the House, Senate, and Oval Office in 2009-2010. Why TF didn't DEMONRATS do it all then?

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2022 07:07 PM (dpnJh)

493 Yes. I have to be at the hospital at 4:45 tomorrow morning. I expect the surgery will be around 7:00

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2022 06:00 PM (qyCXa)

Prayers sent your way, Fen. May He guide the hands of the surgeon and assure your complete recovery.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 24, 2022 07:32 PM (Zvtjl)

494 42 shot and killed in Chicago this month so far and the left doesn't say shit. This happens month after month after month and the left never says anything.

They don't give a damn about shootings. They only care when they think they can milk one for political advantage.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2022 07:37 PM (ZLI7S)

495 Fen- I have been praying a 9 mo novena for your healing. I went through Breast Cancer a year ago, and I know that the Lord was surrounding me. I pray that you experience the extraordinary peace of Christ through this suffering. I will pray the Divine Mercy chaplet for you tomorrow.

Posted by: Sassy at May 24, 2022 07:58 PM (xSICi)

496 Wish there a link to his being trans ?

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2022 08:00 PM (t4poC)

497 Easy now,

18 year old with "issues" shoots/kills his Grandma, (Parents? do I see parents?) Nope and will probably NOT see. I do not think he was gonna shoot up a school, it is just the fates that he crashed his truck in front of a school. But what he did there after....drugs?...and or total Psych case + drugs?

Glad LEO's put him room temp either way. Need to do a LOT more of that early in these drama's. And how bout some armed folks in our soft targets across this nation?

Posted by: Nightwatch at May 24, 2022 09:18 PM (J00IM)

498 fen...I am not a praying man, but I will keep you in my thoughts and positive vibes in this time of difficulty...Jasonj, Tucson I am going through my own difficulties, needing my aortic valve replace...I will find out tomorrow when and how this will be done.....trivial compared to the big C......

Posted by: jasonj at May 25, 2022 12:32 AM (4Tpar)

499 Trans latinx person on psychotropic meds living with grandma, no mention of parents. Story is deader than those poor kids.

But that won't stop progressive tyrants from going GUNSGUNSGUNSGUNS

Posted by: rayra at May 25, 2022 12:40 AM (eJd7P)

500 TEXAS NEEDS RED FLAG LAWS!

just like NY state has. They work so well.

Posted by: Tasty Burger at May 25, 2022 08:14 AM (N/oGZ)

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