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Matt Yglesias' Substack: Republicans May Have 60 Senate Seats After 2024

Note that Matt Yglesias didn't write this; a writer named Simon Bazelon did. I just mention that it's Matt Yglesias' substack because he's a hyperpartian Democrat and would not rah-rah for the Republicans.

The argument is that while 2022 will be bad for the Democrats, 2024 will be worse.

First, his analysis of 2022:

[I]t's reasonable to assume that Democrats are looking at a vote share between 47% and 48.5% this cycle. This means Republicans will probably win the generic ballot by between three and six percent, and the median scenario is probably Republicans winning by around 4.5%. Since Joe Biden won by 4.5% in 2020, this would mean that the national environment has shifted 9 percentage points to the right.

Assume, for a moment, that there is zero ticket-splitting, and this swing is uniform across all elections. This would mean any Democrat in a state that Biden won by less than 9% will probably lose. That includes:

Mark Kelly in Arizona (Biden +0.3)

Raphael Warnock in Georgia (Biden +0.2)

Catherine Cortez-Masto in Nevada (Biden +2.4)

Maggie Hassan in New Hampshire (Biden +7.4)

Let me just depart from the Bazelon analysis for a moment to note Biden's job approval rate in Nevada:

Thirty-five percent.

And this is a blue state!

Nevada's top Democratic officeholders are trailing Republican rivals for vulnerable seats at the governor's mansion and U.S. Senate, according to a Suffolk University/Reno Gazette Journal poll released on Tuesday.

The early April survey of 500 likely midterm election voters counts among the first to show how far U.S. Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto and Gov. Steve Sisolak might sink under the weight of rising gas prices and inflation.

The latter issue, respondents said, was by far the most important on their minds, followed by jobs and the state of the economy. Only 35% of those polled approved of President Joe Biden's job performance -- 6 percentage points below the first-term Democrat's already dismal nationwide approval rating.

Note the poll sample was of "midterm election voters," which would include more GOPers, because it's GOPers who are enthusiastic to vote.

And the Democrat incumbent is running behind likely Republican challengers:

David Paleologos
@davidpaleologos
Suffolk University/USA TODAY Network Nevada poll

Race for U.S. Senate
Catherine Cortez Masto (D) 40%
Adam Laxalt (R) 43%
None of these candidates 3%
Undecided 14%

Catherine Cortez Masto (D) 39%
Sam Brown (R) 40%
None of these candidates 5%
Undecided 17%

Back to Bazelon:

The 2024 map is much worse

Since the Reagan Era, Democrats have averaged roughly 51% of the two-party vote in Presidential elections. If Biden gets this percentage of the vote, and the correlation between the Senate and presidential vote stays at close to .95 (as it was in 2020), then basically every Democratic senator in a state Biden won by less than 2% who is up in 2024 is likely to lose.

That includes:

Jon Tester in Montana (Biden -16.3)

Joe Manchin in West Virginia (Biden -29.9)

Sherrod Brown in Ohio (Biden -

Bob Casey in Pennsylvania (Biden +1.2)

Tammy Baldwin in Wisconsin (Biden +0.7)

Kyrsten Sinema in Arizona (Biden +0.3)

In addition, Debbie Stabenow in Michigan (Biden +2. and Jackie Rosen in Nevada (Biden +2.4) would likely be in toss-up races.

He attempts to prove this dire outlook with "Choose your own disaster" chart, which shows that under no plausible selection of Democrat vote shares in 2022 and 2024 will Democrats hold the Senate, and in most scenarios, they'll be at around 43 seats or fewer.


Putting it all together
The above scenarios are designed to illustrate plausible outcomes, and they're specific to certain assumptions about Democrats' performance in the 2022 and 2024 elections. You might think these assumptions are wrong. So below is a "choose your own adventure" for Senate forecasts. Start on the left with the share of the vote you think Democrats will get in 2022, then pick your estimate of the Democratic vote share in 2024. The output in the right-most column is, according to David Shor's modeling, the projected number of Senate seats Democrats will hold after the 2024 elections.

chooseyourdestruction.png

As the table demonstrates, "normal" electoral results will likely result in the loss of a large share of the Democratic Senate Caucus -- pessimism about the outlook here is not driven by any particular pessimism about Democrats' share of the national popular vote.

Instead, the issue is that the growing polarization of the electorate around educational attainment and the urban/rural divide has generated a Senate that is incredibly biased against the Democratic party.

...

"Business as usual" will result in President Trump or President DeSantis, with somewhere between 56 and 62 Senate seats. And this is actually worse than it might seem at first. In recent years, Republican senators who have retired (or announced that they are retiring) have skewed heavily toward those who were willing to occasionally stand up to Trump, like Jeff Flake, Lamar Alexander, Rob Portman, Pat Toomey, and Richard Burr. If Trump returns to office, he will do so with a median Senator who is far more deferent to his wishes than the last time around.

Read the whole thing. He's a lefty and he's trying to warn the left about continuing to pursue their highly, highly divisive and alienating Woke agenda (I assume).

But the left can't abandon the Woke agenda-- they have made it their central identity and established that "Wokeness" equals goodness and holiness and anti-wokeness is simply evil.

How can the Democrats suddenly reverse themselves on their claim that if you don't "affirm" the "gender identities" of seven year olds, you're evil transphobes who want trans kids to die? That's a hard claim to just walk back.

Now I think they will in fact have to walk these things back, but it will take a political cataclysm to force them to confront reality. They won't do so just based on projections and predictions.

A week ago, John Sexton wrote about poll-watcher Harry Olsen's Red Alert for Democrats.

The Cook Political Report think that the GOP will "only" capture about 23 House seats in November. It's not that Cook doesn't think that Democrats are unpopular. It's that the Republicans already have a near-majority. In 2010, when they gained 50 or so seats, they were way down in the seat count. They were lacking a bunch of seats they should normally have had.

But now, they have a lot of the seats they "should normally have," and so will only win a semi-modest 23 seats.

But Harry Olsen thinks the Democrats are in a worse position than Cook appreciates, and Republicans will gain a lot of seats, even though they're already at near-parity.

Biden sported an eight-point net negative job approval rating on Election Day in 2021, according to the RealClearPolitics polling average. He won the 2020 election by 4.5 points, meaning public opinion shifted 12.5 points in one year. Lo and behold, Democrats lost every state legislative seat in those states that Biden carried by 11.75 points or less and a couple of additional seats above that line.

Here's where the bad news starts for Democrats. They hold 42 House seats that fall below that mark, and a few more will be added to the list when New Hampshire and Florida draw their maps. Politico rates 13 of those 42 seats as safe for Democrats. If that doesn't hold, the GOP could gain as many as 40 seats.

Is that bad?

Well, it might be even worse:

Now factor in the fact that Biden is even more unpopular today than he was last November. Biden currently has a 12-point net negative job approval rating, four points worse than on Election Day 2021. Assuming the same trend from last year's election holds true in this year's midterms, that means any Democrat in a seat Biden won by 15.75 points or less could be vulnerable. That throws an additional 17 seats onto the playing field, all of which are rated by Politico as safely blue.

You wouldn't expect the GOP to win all of the seats that are merely in play in play seats are merely contested -- but let's say they won about 40% of the "in-play" seats. That would be about another 6 or 7 seats.

So the upshot is: In 2024, the GOP might have the presidency, plus a filibuster-proof supermajority in the Senate, plus the largest House majority in decades, and Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy will still tell us "it's not the right time" to pass conservative legislation but it's the perfect time to amnesty 30 million illegal aliens.

Conservatives will not succeed until they get serious about playing hardball with the liberal Republican anti-conservative motherf***ers who conspire with the Democrats to keep us down. They've been playing hardball with us; it's time to wake the f*** up and play hardball back.

Posted by: Ace at 05:33 PM




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1 First again?!?!?

Posted by: Greyman27 at April 13, 2022 04:33 PM (RKLPC)

2 Thankfully, new thread.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2022 04:33 PM (AhBAQ)

3 So, looks like we are in a big fat mess.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2022 04:35 PM (AhBAQ)

4 2024? I don't mean to be so optimistic, but we ain't making it that far.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at April 13, 2022 04:35 PM (QYPq3)

5 All this means is that Biden can add the Senate to the list of things to blame for his fuckuos.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at April 13, 2022 04:36 PM (zB5mP)

6 All hand picked by asshat Mitch.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 13, 2022 04:36 PM (F/J1O)

7 So, 59 GOP Senators and the liberals will be crying about the importance of the filibuster. Which should be rammed up their asses.

Posted by: Roy at April 13, 2022 04:36 PM (Ti+Tv)

8 Lizzo wouldn't even notice if she had a dumbell up her ass.

Oh. Wrong thread.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 13, 2022 04:36 PM (sWM8x)

9 Bullshit.

By 2024, the DemonRats will have spent 4 years perfecting their Dominion Voting Machine/Ballot Harvesting Operation, and Republicans will be crushed just like occurred in 2020.

I have no faith in the electoral process at all.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 13, 2022 04:37 PM (HoBpT)

10 They wouldn't have lost their majorities in 2018 if they hadn't been such pussies and hadn't piled on Trump and Russia, Russia, Russia.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 13, 2022 04:37 PM (Y5qcH)

11 1) The democrats will cheat their asses off
2) The GOPe will find some way to step on their own dick
3) We're fucked

Posted by: ballistic at April 13, 2022 04:37 PM (oXNqT)

12 the Turtle would never allow this to happen

like giving up his shell

Posted by: REDACTED at April 13, 2022 04:37 PM (us2H3)

13 There is still the fraud factor, Democrats are going to try their damnest

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2022 04:37 PM (2JoB8)

14 It's all failure theatre. Wake me when we burn down K street and impose term limits.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at April 13, 2022 04:37 PM (gryET)

15 Cortez-Masto is in serious trouble in Nevada. She is currently down 7 points, and Hispanics are moving Republican.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 13, 2022 04:38 PM (5p7BC)

16 Awesome, we should do some real damage with McConnell and McCarthy in charge.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 13, 2022 04:38 PM (h3Lfd)

17 Some manufactured disaster will blow shit up and gope will gope

Posted by: NCKate at April 13, 2022 04:38 PM (2oJif)

18 2024 is long way away.

Posted by: runner at April 13, 2022 04:38 PM (NxtrT)

19 If inflation doesn't get under control, Repubs will get to 2/3rd of both houses by 2024. I talk to my neighbors, store people, the USAA phone lady and I mention food inflation, and these folks go off. Then, I mention voting matters and we gotta change stuff...and everyone's receptive, especially women. And this is heart of NOVA country. +42 Biden last election...

If Repubs don't run a real candidate in every race, they aren't trying to win, b/c every seat is in play this year...every single one.

Posted by: Nova local at April 13, 2022 04:38 PM (exHjb)

20 WZs and possibly Bill Maher do not make sense. How would a recession 'unelect' Trump? He is not in office, right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 13, 2022 04:39 PM (F/J1O)

21 The guy whose model predicted every election correctly for the last 100 years, bar one, had Trump in a laugher.

Posted by: ... at April 13, 2022 04:39 PM (dscaa)

22 IF this mythical situation were to arise, and the FIRST order of business for the filibuster-proof GOP lock on the legislative and executive branches isn't "Round up and deport the fuck out of everyone here illegally, period," we are well and truly fucked.

Posted by: ballistic at April 13, 2022 04:39 PM (oXNqT)

23 I seldom comment on political threads, but even if the GOP got 60 seats, would it make a difference?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at April 13, 2022 04:39 PM (x8Wzq)

24 Is he counting Mitt Romney in the GOP category?

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at April 13, 2022 04:40 PM (sX1BW)

25 the one thing that the Turtle and Kevin Mc believe

this wont be the last time the can schnozzle the conservative voter

Posted by: REDACTED at April 13, 2022 04:40 PM (us2H3)

26 t's reasonable to assume that Democrats are looking at a vote share between 47% and 48.5% this cycle. This means Republicans will probably win the generic ballot...

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I see what's going on here.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 13, 2022 04:40 PM (SKVme)

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 13, 2022 04:40 PM (SKVme)

28 All these millions of illegals should be all registered to vote by them.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 13, 2022 04:40 PM (jTmQV)

29 Awesome, we should do some real damage with McConnell and McCarthy in charge.
Posted by: Dr Spank


Are you trying to make me snarky? Because you're making me snarky.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 13, 2022 04:40 PM (p6Md5)

30 test

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 13, 2022 04:40 PM (SKVme)

31 What the hell, YD? I feel like I am watching Se7en again.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 13, 2022 04:41 PM (F/J1O)

32 The barrel, she looms

Posted by: ballistic at April 13, 2022 04:41 PM (oXNqT)

33
Watch out for the bracket in that block quote up top, fellas. Almost got me. Too fast for the barrel, though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 13, 2022 04:41 PM (SKVme)

34 The 60+ Republicans should help in the fight with the Giant Sand Worms over bug scrapings, or at least maybe be able to work on the raging fires.

Posted by: ... at April 13, 2022 04:42 PM (dscaa)

35 21 The guy whose model predicted every election correctly for the last 100 years, bar one, had Trump in a laugher.
Posted by: ... at April 13, 2022 04:39 PM (dscaa)

That dude is old.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 13, 2022 04:42 PM (Y5qcH)

36 Its a lot worse than this - Cook is pretty liberal and always under estimates Republican support by quite a bit.

60 seat loss is not out of the question, if election fraud has been solved and the districts drawn remain where they are.

The Senate will see Republican gains and win a majority - Dave in Fla can opine, but I think Hassam is toast, the chick from Naveda is gone, Kelly gets kicked to the curb, etc - not great, but a start.

Posted by: Boswell at April 13, 2022 04:42 PM (5iUNf)

37 There is that whole impending hot WWIII that will upend this whole thing too.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 13, 2022 04:42 PM (Rl7KJ)

38 Now that we have a 60+ Senate in the majority, we are going to restore all the pre-2005 filibuster rules.

- GOPe

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at April 13, 2022 04:42 PM (sX1BW)

39 30 test

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


C-.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 13, 2022 04:42 PM (h3Lfd)

40 34 The 60+ Republicans should help in the fight with the Giant Sand Worms over bug scrapings, or at least maybe be able to work on the raging fires.
Posted by: ... at April 13, 2022 04:42 PM (dscaa)

He'll just veto anything we propose...

Posted by: Tomorrow's Quislings- TODAY at April 13, 2022 04:42 PM (F/J1O)

41 Dr Spank

Damage to the expiring US of A with McConnell and McCarthy in charge is the answer.

To revive America McConnell and McCarthy must be stripped of power.

Your drugs & sarcasm fu is strong.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 13, 2022 04:43 PM (u82oZ)

42 1) The democrats will cheat their asses off
2) The GOPe will find some way to step on their own dick
3) We're fucked

Posted by: ballistic at April 13, 2022 04:37 PM (oXNqT)

Cut it, print it, end scene

Posted by: ... at April 13, 2022 04:44 PM (dscaa)

43 Tomorrow's Quislings- TODA

Let fakePotus veto laws popular with the public. Own it, Leftists.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 13, 2022 04:44 PM (u82oZ)

44 The incompetence of the GOP as a party is the only reason we don't have 60 Republican seats as a "default".

There's FAR more "red states" than "blue states" we should have an easy majority every election cycle in the Senate. Yet somehow we get some combination of red state Democrats and pretend Republicans in the reddest of states.

When Bitch McConnell is in charge of recruiting, we get to be the Washington Generals every time.

Posted by: Blago at April 13, 2022 04:44 PM (ZIX/+)

45 Yeah, it's amazing that a major American political party has come out in favor of chemical and physical castration of children - er, excuse me - "providing gender-affirming care for trans kids".

After all, that eminent medical specialist, Jen Psaki, says that child castration is a "best practice".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 13, 2022 04:44 PM (I2/tG)

46 They are going have supermajority, and the what? Roll over for dem's pet projects?

Posted by: runner at April 13, 2022 04:45 PM (NxtrT)

47 I'll believe it when I see it. I'm glad (D)s are sacred little twits but I don't believe anything now from anyone about the future.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at April 13, 2022 04:45 PM (qpukd)

48 ballistic

Determined citizen can make the difference.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 13, 2022 04:45 PM (u82oZ)

49 Oh, and Herschel wins going away in GA

Posted by: Boswell at April 13, 2022 04:45 PM (5iUNf)

50 SNL writers' lounge material.

Posted by: 80's music fan at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (glGDV)

51 But the left can't abandon the Woke agenda-- they have made it their central identity and established that "Wokeness" equals goodness and holiness and anti-wokeness is simply evil.
___________

Woke-ism is a cult, and should be treated like one.

Public school teachers aren't allowed to proselytize other cult beliefs in classrooms, so they shouldn't be allowed to proselytize this one in classrooms either.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (k4dH2)

52 I'm the last one to count their chickens before they hatch. I can make a sure thing turn on a dime.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (KQIlm)

53 I am not losing hope just yet.
If the Freedom Caucus can pick up 1/4 of those seats, they can wield some power over McCarthy and the rest of the GOPe.

Posted by: Fool Otto at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (DB16e)

54 What's the Republican platform ? What do they stand for?

Posted by: runner at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (NxtrT)

55 You want to see a volcanic response? Have the RNC call me and ask for money.

RNC = Those losing losers that lose.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (u82oZ)

56 Guys, sorry, too busy crunching my lung.

Posted by: Mitch the Turtle at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (QYPq3)

57 Let fakePotus veto laws popular with the public. Own it, Leftists.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 13, 2022 04:44 PM (u82oZ)

That is what we said a million times after 2010, NaCLy.

And yet, they were FAR more concerned about bleeding out and then disposing of the corpse of the Tea Party than they were actually doing anything. These guys are fucking beltway *types* *deletes*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (F/J1O)

58
What's the Republican platform ? What do they stand for?
Posted by: runner at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (NxtrT)

Wut?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (SKVme)

59 Is this a continuation of the masturbation post?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 13, 2022 04:47 PM (KQIlm)

60 Turtle invited Amy klobuchar to speak at the turtle center at the uni of louisville because he doesn't actually know any republicans

Posted by: NCKate at April 13, 2022 04:47 PM (2oJif)

61 There is that whole impending hot WWIII that will upend this whole thing too.

The democrats may be counting on their voters getting nuked so that they can vote twice, or something.

Posted by: Methos at April 13, 2022 04:47 PM (kOpft)

62 Wow. Great news. /s

This stops EO's how?

Posted by: Golfman at April 13, 2022 04:47 PM (grja2)

63 Now, the Dems will have to cheat to save democracy!

Why, counter-vax posts might show up on Twitter!

Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 04:47 PM (krQz2)

64 Another possible factor is Democratic redistricting this year. Dems have been trying to eliminate as many Republican seats as they can, but in order to do so they have to distribute Democratic votes more thinly over more districts to create D+ districts. This means less safe Democratic districts. If there is a red wave in 2022 a lot of those marginal new districts may flip.

Posted by: Matt Thullen at April 13, 2022 04:48 PM (Pd6HM)

65 If the country is as sick of blue haired trannyhomos as I am, the R's should do well.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 13, 2022 04:48 PM (Y5qcH)

66 59 Is this a continuation of the masturbation post?
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 13, 2022 04:47 PM (KQIlm)

Yes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 13, 2022 04:48 PM (F/J1O)

67 Bwahahahahahaha!

Posted by: LASue at April 13, 2022 04:48 PM (Ed8Zd)

68 I do think that one of the things that will kill the Democrats is the open proselytization of gay and trans identities in public schools.

That's a bridge too far for a lot of liberal parents with school-age kids, methinks.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 13, 2022 04:48 PM (I2/tG)

69 After all, that eminent medical specialist, Jen Psaki, says that child castration is a "best practice".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 13, 2022 04:44 PM (I2/tG)

But we need a biologist to identify a woman.

Posted by: ... at April 13, 2022 04:48 PM (dscaa)

70
54 What's the Republican platform ? What do they stand for?
Posted by: runner at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (NxtrT)

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Sitting.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 13, 2022 04:48 PM (4/+v7)

71 What's the Republican platform ? What do they stand for?

Posted by: runner at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (NxtrT)
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To relieve the pressure on their asses.

Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 04:48 PM (krQz2)

72 Aetius451AD Work Laptop

I could curse the GOPe for 20 minutes, not repeat myself, and make even Jewells45 sound like a nun.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 13, 2022 04:49 PM (u82oZ)

73 Hey, Progs: Oregon rescinded residency requirement for physician assisted suicide. Tickets available! Act now before regime change!

Posted by: 80's music fan at April 13, 2022 04:49 PM (glGDV)

74 Do I have faith in the Republican Party? No. Do I want a big Republican Majority in DC? Yes. I love Progressive wailing and lamentations.

Posted by: kraken at April 13, 2022 04:49 PM (SaC0j)

75 That's some lung crunching expectations for the GOP. There were too many states that were impervious to Republican upsets in 1994 and 2010. Until proven otherwise, I don't see that changing in 2022.

I am much more upbeat now than I was a year ago that AZ senator Store Brand Lex Luthor will be tossed out, so there's that.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 13, 2022 04:49 PM (TNyrE)

76 I do think that one of the things that will kill the Democrats is the open proselytization of gay and trans identities in public schools.

That's a bridge too far for a lot of liberal parents with school-age kids, methinks.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 13, 2022 04:48 PM (I2/tG)

Sure. Until a Republican conveniently decides to lecture everybody on the Science of Rape.

Posted by: ... at April 13, 2022 04:49 PM (dscaa)

77 I'm not one of the morons who think there is not a bit of difference between the Dems and Republicans. I agree they both suck bigley but one sucks infinitely more than the other.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 13, 2022 04:50 PM (KQIlm)

78 Answered a call today. From some data place. I waited to until I heard the pick up. Listened for about 10 seconds and said goodbye mr india. Shit is only going to get worse.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2022 04:50 PM (AhBAQ)

79 Determined citizen can make the difference.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 13, 2022 04:45 PM (u82oZ)
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I'll believe it when I see it.

I've been around long enough to see determined citizens try, and all that ends up happening is that we don't do shit and grifters take over the movement.

Posted by: ballistic at April 13, 2022 04:50 PM (oXNqT)

80 Thread winner:
71 What's the Republican platform ? What do they stand for?

Posted by: runner at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (NxtrT)
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To relieve the pressure on their asses.
Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 04:48 PM (krQz2)

Posted by: 80's music fan at April 13, 2022 04:50 PM (glGDV)

81 What's the Republican platform ? What do they stand for?

Rolling over and taking it up the ass.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 13, 2022 04:50 PM (nxdel)

82 This means less safe Democratic districts. If there is a red wave in 2022 a lot of those marginal new districts may flip.

Yeah, they're definitely rolling the dice in Oregon, where the D's drew a Congressional map to have five of six districts be majority Democrat, is a state that is at most 60/40 Democrat/Republican.

A major red wave puts most of those "D" seats in peril.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 13, 2022 04:51 PM (I2/tG)

83 I can't believe people pay Yglesias for something that isn't punching him in his stupid, smug face. Cause that's all I would pay him for.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 13, 2022 04:51 PM (Y5qcH)

84 Id be excited if I believed current and future elections Were legit.

Posted by: Regular joe at April 13, 2022 04:51 PM (nnp+f)

85 There is that whole impending hot WWIII that will upend this whole thing too.

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If the Russians use WMDs it's only because their puppet Trump emboldened them to attack Zelensky, PBUH. The only people who would blame President Biden for that are dirty Russians like him. Stop being racist.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 13, 2022 04:51 PM (SKVme)

86 Trump is working to terminate McConnell
Trump is working to get ?Mike Scott from FL to replace McConnell.

We need to get a pic of Luntz and McCarthy hugging in their apartment circulated.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 13, 2022 04:51 PM (ezSUn)

87 71 What's the Republican platform ? What do they stand for?

Posted by: runner


They stand for being slightly less offensive than the Democrats.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 13, 2022 04:51 PM (h3Lfd)

88 You got all the important ones Boswell. I was going to add Warnock is going to lose in Georgia, but you added it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 13, 2022 04:52 PM (5p7BC)

89 I don't know if Brian Stelter is a woman or not, not being a biologist. But I'll take his lamentations.

Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 04:52 PM (krQz2)

90 Republicans: Putting the Dumbbell Up Your Ass at Half the Speed

Posted by: ... at April 13, 2022 04:52 PM (dscaa)

91 I could curse the GOPe for 20 minutes, not repeat myself, and make even Jewells45 sound like a nun.

*snort. You've been around me too much. Or maybe not enough? I know you've heard me cuss up a storm. I've never heard you cuss. We need to fix that.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 13, 2022 04:53 PM (nxdel)

92 Boris Johnson walking the streets of Kiev.

A friend's opinion is that Boris is {albeit reluctantly till now} stepping up and replacing Brandon {tacit US} as leader of the free wor western world.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 13, 2022 04:53 PM (ezSUn)

93 That's a bridge too far for a lot of liberal parents with school-age kids, methinks

Shoot where your enemy is least likely to expect it.

Posted by: Art of The Own Goal at April 13, 2022 04:54 PM (EHcEg)

94 One of our departments of our hospital has severe staff shortages so we've been taking in volunteers from other hospitals in the VA system to assist us for two week stretches. The lady I met at the airport today is from Chicago, very nice, etc. However, she was wearing not one, but two Biden/Harris buttons on her sweater with their gaping maw pictures on them.

It never ceases to amaze me how those two have any fans let alone someone willing to go out in public wearing their pictures.

Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2022 04:54 PM (oiNtH)

95 Republicans: Putting the Dumbbell Up Your Ass at Half the Speed
Posted by: ... at April 13, 2022 04:52 PM (dscaa)
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I don't like to press but that'll curl your hair.

Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 04:55 PM (krQz2)

96 2 inmates at a women's prison in New Jersey have turned up pregnant after the ACLU forced the prison to admit trans women.
Story at UK Daily Mail.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 13, 2022 04:55 PM (jTmQV)

97 Republicans continue the pro life fight and to uphold the 2nd. Just those two things make them worth electing over the Dems IMO.

(I retain the right to change my opinion.)

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 13, 2022 04:55 PM (KQIlm)

98 I know we look for the dark cloud in every sky round here, but all those shiny new faces in 2023 and 2024 are going to be "Trump-endorsed."

All of the Republican votes for impeachment will be in their new lobbyist jobs.

Mitch and Kevin are going to have caucuses that demand results, not talk.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 13, 2022 04:56 PM (5i9bt)

99 Matt Yglesias' Substack: Republicans May Have 60 Senate Seats After 2024

If the 'Pubes get 60 seats, that means we'll need 61 seats for a majority vote, correct? I think that's how this works.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik [DHS Verdict: MDM] at April 13, 2022 04:56 PM (DTX3h)

100 Conservatives will not succeed until they get serious about playing hardball with the liberal Republican anti-conservative motherf***ers who conspire with the Democrats to keep us down. They've been playing hardball with us; it's time to wake the f*** up and play hardball back.

This is not who we are.
*sniffs haughtily*

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 13, 2022 04:56 PM (II3Gr)

101 ballistic

In the local area. We have pragmatists in the majority in the City Council, one left in the County Commission, and me. I have one and a half years left in office.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 13, 2022 04:56 PM (u82oZ)

102 Will World War III be over by then?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 13, 2022 04:56 PM (63Dwl)

103 After all, that eminent medical specialist, Jen Psaki, says that child castration is a "best practice".
____________

Somebody was arguing the other day that we must accept the correctness of "gender affirmation" procedures (such as puberty blockers and mutilation surgeries) because the medical community deems them to be "the proper treatment" for gender dysphoria.

A few decades ago the medical community was backing lobotomies as the proper treatment for mental illnesses.

As we saw during the covid lunacy, the medical community too often behaves like a bunch of spineless and brainless lemmings, ready to jump on the political bandwagon of whatever group they perceive as having the most power at the moment.

Dangerous and stupid treatments don't magically become right just because some group of doctors says they are.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at April 13, 2022 04:57 PM (k4dH2)

104 What's the Republican platform ? What do they stand for?

Posted by: runner
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They don't have one.

There are really two elections happening this year (and in 2024). Arguably the primaries are more important. The GOP is going to win the general by default, because the electorate is still pissed over 2020 and Biden isn't doing anything to make them less mad, making it worse in fact.

But the primaries are where the voters get to punish the GOPe that allowed the election to be stolen. Watch for places like WA-3. If Joe Kent wins that primary it is a harbinger that establishment GOPe are going to take a beating by outsiders.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 13, 2022 04:57 PM (5p7BC)

105 Meh, we'll see how the actual counting of ballots go.

Posted by: Dominion at April 13, 2022 04:57 PM (fHtCl)

106 You know, it would be funny to see enough GOP seats in the House and Senate to where the leaders could tell Snate Romneys, "Yeah, do whatever you want, we don't need your vote."

Of course, I'd also like a winning lottery ticket.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 13, 2022 04:58 PM (5pTK/)

107 2 inmates at a women's prison in New Jersey have turned up pregnant after the ACLU forced the prison to admit trans women.
Story at UK Daily Mail.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

No, no. I have been assured by our non-elected, scientific elites like Hollywood and Disney, that trans "women" have periods and can have babies. So see? Nothing wrong here.

Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2022 04:58 PM (oiNtH)

108 I don't believe for a second that Mitch will be able to get anything done unless we have majorities in both the house and the senate and we own the executive. It's not the hill Mitch is willing to bleed on.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 13, 2022 04:58 PM (Wnd0C)

109 If the Republicans get 60 seats, no one can stop them from removing Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 04:59 PM (krQz2)

110 Now let's not go crunching each others' lungs just yet ...

Posted by: ShainS at April 13, 2022 04:59 PM (Emy6L)

111 If the 'Pubes get 60 seats, that means we'll need 61 seats for a majority vote, correct? I think that's how this works.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik
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There will be no Democrat seats
only a few canvas folding stools
in the foyer.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 13, 2022 04:59 PM (ezSUn)

112
Boris Johnson walking the streets of Kiev.

20 rubles, same as in suburbs.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 13, 2022 04:59 PM (63Dwl)

113 I'd be more enthused if I actually thought the Republicans would do anything with their majorities.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 13, 2022 04:59 PM (TU8Tj)

114 How about tort reform: Loser Pays. How about reduced regulation: Defund Departments of Energy, Labor, Education, Homeland Security, Health and Transportation then leave those areas to the states.

Posted by: Holy Crap at April 13, 2022 04:59 PM (glGDV)

115 Winston Wolf would like a word.

Posted by: blaster at April 13, 2022 04:59 PM (9otr5)

116 But the primaries are where the voters get to punish the GOPe that allowed the election to be stolen. Watch for places like WA-3. If Joe Kent wins that primary it is a harbinger that establishment GOPe are going to take a beating by outsiders.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 13, 2022 04:57 PM (5p7BC)
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I was waiting to see if Dave in Fl put up something. And, I hope you're correct, because I want to see Liz Cheney screaming about how unfair it was, that she was tossed aside like a worn out old shoe.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 13, 2022 05:00 PM (5pTK/)

117 I would love to believe this, I really would. But what I do believe is that GOPe will fcuk this opportunity to take control up, or somehow, if they do take control they will fcuk that up. They've never let me down in 73 years.

Posted by: Eromero at April 13, 2022 05:00 PM (0OP+5)

118 109 If the Republicans get 60 seats, no one can stop them from removing Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 04:59 PM (krQz2)

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Early threadwinner candidate.

Posted by: ShainS at April 13, 2022 05:00 PM (4OKAQ)

119 Jewells45

You, my dear lady, are absolutely not the GOPe.
You make me laugh, not curse.

I sent you a thank you note for the jewelry delivery today. You do great work.

Hint-hint guys. A gift from Jewells45 is absolutely putting husband points up on the board.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 13, 2022 05:00 PM (u82oZ)

120 You got all the important ones Boswell. I was going to add Warnock is going to lose in Georgia, but you added it.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 13, 2022 04:52 PM (5p7BC)

I wish the Senate picture was better for us, but its as good as we can get this election cycle, but I think the house is way under represented in the polling - but would like to hear your thoughts.

40 seats would be a drubbing, but 60 seats might just be a defining moment in history and we have a lot of wind at our backs - its a tall order but some districts, even in NY, seem to suggest that a tsunami could happen...can you imagine Lee Zeldin as Governor of NY? I can now...6 months ago, not so much.

Posted by: Boswell at April 13, 2022 05:00 PM (5iUNf)

121
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at April 13, 2022 04:57 PM (k4dH2)

Are you saying that a broad majority of medical professionals would systematically distort or conceal scientific evidence in service of a public health policy preferred by the state actors responsible for writing their stupendous grants and subsidies and byzantine regulatory protections?

Because that's crazy. We've never seen anything like that happen. Ever. Certainly not recently or anything.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 13, 2022 05:01 PM (SKVme)

122 It never ceases to amaze me how those two have any fans let alone someone willing to go out in public wearing their pictures.
Posted by: Cheri

Shocks me too.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2022 05:01 PM (AhBAQ)

123 "In 2010, when they gained 50 or so seats"

They picked up 63 seats.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 13, 2022 05:01 PM (TU8Tj)

124 Daily Mail says the subway shooter called police on himself, saying, "I think you're looking for me."

http://bitly.ws/qjia

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 13, 2022 05:01 PM (sWM8x)

125 The GOP getting 60 Senators is structurally impossible without a complete political alignment that encompasses deep blue states.

The most I can see is mid-50s.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ron Johnson "loses" in Wisconsin.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 13, 2022 05:01 PM (g7dEQ)

126 And then the murders started.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 13, 2022 05:01 PM (I2/tG)

127 No, no. I have been assured by our non-elected, scientific elites like Hollywood and Disney, that trans "women" have periods and can have babies. So see? Nothing wrong here.

Now that is some serious scissoring!

Posted by: The Scissor Sisters at April 13, 2022 05:01 PM (EHcEg)

128 I'd be more enthused if I actually thought the Republicans would do anything with their majorities.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 13, 2022 04:59 PM (TU8Tj)

I'm afraid what they do at best is stopping the Dems from continuing their agenda.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 13, 2022 05:02 PM (KQIlm)

129 I don't think Manchin is going anywhere.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Math Queen King of Greenland, the Merciless (don't/stop/believin') at April 13, 2022 05:02 PM (rF64X)

130 I want to start impeaching some judges.

Posted by: sockamster at April 13, 2022 05:02 PM (OuH7W)

131 Historically primary runoff's have very low turnout.
Motivating conservative voters for that vote is critical.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 13, 2022 05:02 PM (ezSUn)

132 all those DC-GULAG judges who kept 1/6 peaceful paraders in jail for a year need to get impeached in 2025

Posted by: sockamster at April 13, 2022 05:02 PM (OuH7W)

133
But PredictIt has the Dems up by 20%!!!!!

*RIP Intrade*

Posted by: In before the troll at April 13, 2022 05:02 PM (n+4am)

134 I do hope that with a 100 new fresh GOP faces in Congress, we can find an anti-groomer, deport everyone, impeach judges Newt Gingrich for the 21st century

Posted by: sockamster at April 13, 2022 05:03 PM (OuH7W)

135 Blake - I'm not predicting anything right now. But I can see how the primary voter sentiment is running, and GOPe incumbents should be worried.

But they are also incumbents so have a strong built in advantage.

This cycle has brought in a number of candidates that would not be running at all if the 2020 steal hadn't happened. And their targets are GOP incumbents.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 13, 2022 05:03 PM (5p7BC)

136 chique l'African Viking Math Queen King of Greenland, the Merciless (don't/stop/believin')

Your majesty, I agree. He is a very smart politician. That is rare.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 13, 2022 05:04 PM (u82oZ)

137 "Republicans May Have 60 Senate Seats After 2024"

That and the Presidency will get you squat.

Posted by: Mighty Mini Mega Meat Magnifier at April 13, 2022 05:04 PM (vrz2I)

138 Historically primary runoff's have very low turnout.
Motivating conservative voters for that vote is critical.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 13, 2022 05:02 PM (ezSUn)

Agree. Let's not pull another Georgia.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (KQIlm)

139 If Republicans don't go out and vote because they are black pilled, Republican candidates will surely lose.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Math Queen King of Greenland, the Merciless (don't/stop/believin') at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (rF64X)

140 This is why democrats have to steal elections and why they stole 2020.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (KlnkT)

141 This year we may pick up 5-10 Senate seats.
And the Dems will pick up 2M+ illegal alien future voters.
Who's winning?

Posted by: Zek at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (OzNIz)

142 Boris Johnson walking the streets of Kiev.
Posted by: Braenyard


Worst Springstien song evah.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (p6Md5)

143 23 I seldom comment on political threads, but even if the GOP got 60 seats, would it make a difference?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at April 13, 2022 04:39 PM (x8Wzq)

They still won't do what we want I suspect, I think they really aren't that into their voters.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (4tfcV)

144 Shocks me too.
Posted by: Infidel

Hi Infidel! I guess it shouldn't shock me....she's from Chicago-town. Probably also a staunch supporter of the zombie that runs that place.

Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (oiNtH)

145 The media is responsible for pushing these numbers out.

While I agree there's a lot of heartache over rezident retard I also think there's a disinformation program to make it seem worse.

Lastly... what does a "red wave" do for us?

*Answer... not much.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (BFigT)

146 Thank you NaCly {{hugs}} Hope wifey loves everything.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (nxdel)

147 One thing Democrats sure are playing like they are going to lose.
Hopefully the Jan6 rally patriots will get help out of their gulag

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (2JoB8)

148 Next election is too far away to even game out, so I am not even believing the GOP will win that one let alone 2024. All kinds of things can and will happen by Nov. I will say this inflation is crazy, so whoo boy wouldn't want to face the voters with that.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 13, 2022 05:06 PM (lgeFv)

149 With 60 GOP senators, it may be possible for the GOP to field a baseball team. I realize that a journey of 1,000 miles yada-yada-yada... Will McConnell still be there? Will Mrs. Luntz still be the House 'leader'?

There was a reason why Moses kept the Israelites living the hard life in the desert for 40 years. At least two generations needed to pass to allow the corrupt, venal, weak, and godless to literally die off. The America First movement needs to perpetually primary the GOP until nobody is left there that remembers any of the current members.

Posted by: Lawrence L at April 13, 2022 05:06 PM (FAuXd)

150 Hi Infidel! I guess it shouldn't shock me....she's from Chicago-town. Probably also a staunch supporter of the zombie that runs that place.
Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (oiNtH)

I thought she was a Fraggle?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 13, 2022 05:06 PM (F/J1O)

151 We'll be in the middle of a recession in 24 too.

Posted by: I Mean at April 13, 2022 05:06 PM (I9rNZ)

152 They still won't do what we want I suspect, I think they really aren't that into their voters.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (4tfcV)
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It all hinges on how many incumbents lose their seats. Enough incumbents wind up taking involuntary retirement, the rest may decide they need to keep their job.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 13, 2022 05:06 PM (5pTK/)

153 You bless Tater with 10 inches bt what would he do with it ?

Posted by: REDACTED at April 13, 2022 05:06 PM (us2H3)

154 So, another masturbation thread.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 13, 2022 05:06 PM (u73oe)

155 bt = but

Posted by: REDACTED at April 13, 2022 05:07 PM (us2H3)

156 141 This year we may pick up 5-10 Senate seats.
And the Dems will pick up 2M+ illegal alien future voters.
Who's winning?
________________

Two million? Try 6 million, by the government's own (low-ball) estimates.

They're predicting at least 500,000 per month once the covid restrictions are lifted. That's more than 6 million per year.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at April 13, 2022 05:07 PM (k4dH2)

157 With 60 Republicans in the Senate, Mitch will REALLY be the boss!

Narrator: With 60 votes in the Senate, Romney, Collins, and Murkowski take turns being Mitch's boss.

Posted by: blaster at April 13, 2022 05:07 PM (9otr5)

158 Historically primary runoff's have very low turnout.
Motivating conservative voters for that vote is critical.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 13, 2022 05:02 PM (ezSUn)
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The polls look good on that now. I think I saw a 35-58% split on a poll yesterday.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 13, 2022 05:08 PM (sWM8x)

159 154 So, another masturbation thread.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 13, 2022 05:06 PM (u73oe)

Just doing enough to where it is hard to breathe- kind of like cardio.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 13, 2022 05:08 PM (F/J1O)

160 I want to start impeaching some judges.
Posted by: sockamster at April 13, 2022 05:02 PM (OuH7W)
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Totally. Or maybe possibly pass some amendment aimed at bringing the judiciary back under control.

Or a "Right to Revert", meaning that the People, through their representatives, have the final say on what kind of society they want to live in, no matter how "modern" or "progressive" judges have lauded a political development.

Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 05:08 PM (krQz2)

161
It all hinges on how many incumbents lose their seats. Enough incumbents wind up taking involuntary retirement, the rest may decide they need to keep their job.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 13, 2022 05:06 PM (5pTK/)

I don't know if it's true or not but Friedman's make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing applies somehow I'm sure.
I don't trust any politician. I question their motives.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 13, 2022 05:08 PM (4tfcV)

162 It never ceases to amaze me how those two have any fans let alone someone willing to go out in public wearing their pictures.
Posted by: Cheri

Hi, thought about volunteering at the local VA. Not sure I could keep my mouth shut with the likes of those.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2022 05:08 PM (AhBAQ)

163 Yeah but gopE republicants.... Oh and voter cheating and voting machine fraud aren't just magically go away.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 13, 2022 05:08 PM (iDcra)

164 The GOP may suck, but they are unlikely to force gender/genital erasing surgery on your kids in spite of your wishes like the Brandon administration has announced. The GOP is awful overall, but the left is terrifying.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Math Queen King of Greenland, the Merciless (don't/stop/believin') at April 13, 2022 05:08 PM (rF64X)

165 REDACTED

That is Tater and the 10# dumbbell.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 13, 2022 05:08 PM (u82oZ)

166 What's the Republican platform ? What do they stand for?
Posted by: runner


Good question.

"Against the extreme Left Wing Democrat Agenda!!!"
Which is what I read in mailings all the time.

"Will McCarthy confirm he will Impeach Biden?"
Which is kind of dumb on the face of it. Yeah, the 2020 Election was rigged, but can that be "proven" in a Senate trial? And who do we get if Biden is removed? Kamala? If the Republicans don't have 66 votes in the Senate, it's just so much political theater. Dumb.
What a door prize.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at April 13, 2022 05:08 PM (vcOmj)

167 Yet they'll cheat.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at April 13, 2022 05:09 PM (ySQBZ)

168 And, I hope you're correct, because I want to see Liz Cheney screaming about how unfair it was, that she was tossed aside like a worn out old shoe.

The plan is to have every Democrat in Wyoming change their party registration to vote in the Republican primary. (The D's are deliberately not running a serious candidate.)

Also look for a bunch of rich Democrats with second houses in Jackson to suddenly become Wyoming residents for purposes of the primary.

She's already raised $40 per Wyoming voter - lots of money for artful bribery.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 13, 2022 05:09 PM (I2/tG)

169
Of all the manifold things a GOP majority will not do, "helping the J6 prisoners" has to be the very first item on to-not-do list, bolded, underlined, and starred.

The only thing about that situation that displeases the Republicans is that they're in custody instead of shot.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 13, 2022 05:09 PM (SKVme)

170 "So, another masturbation thread.
Posted by: Duke Lowell"

Well, beat it then.

Posted by: Meta Mighty Mini Mega Meat Magnifier at April 13, 2022 05:09 PM (vrz2I)

171 Boris Johnson walking the streets of Kiev.
Posted by: Braenyard
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His hair was not-so-messy.

Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 05:09 PM (krQz2)

172 Boris Johnson walking the streets of Kiev.
Posted by: Braenyard

Worst Springstien song evah.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

His new wife is from the Rothschild family.

Hmmm......

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....lost in a lost world at April 13, 2022 05:10 PM (vcOmj)

173 The GOP getting 60 Senators is structurally impossible without a complete political alignment that encompasses deep blue states.
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That is what is happening, not sure if you read my post last week.

There is a realignment happening right now driven by Hispanics. PA, WI, and MI are now red states, period. It is only the built in fraud perpetuated by the entrenched Dem election apparatus that is allowing them to keep winning. James won Michigan.

Before last week I thought Nevada had slipped into the blue column, but that has changed now.

If the GOP (not GOPe) can ever get control in these states and enact election integrity, you will see a dramatic shift in those "blue" states. Look at the difference in Florida once DeSantis took Brenda Snipes out.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 13, 2022 05:10 PM (5p7BC)

174 The GOP stands for amnesty.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at April 13, 2022 05:10 PM (QYPq3)

175 There was a reason why Moses kept the Israelites living the hard life in the desert for 40 years. At least two generations needed to pass to allow the corrupt, venal, weak, and godless to literally die off.

Posted by: Lawrence L at April 13, 2022 05:06 PM (FAuXd)

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And in a similar vein, like Moses, McConnell and McCarthy should not be allowed to cross the Jordan River.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 13, 2022 05:10 PM (TNyrE)

176 In NH, I remember Hassan is in a pedo scandal - her husband was covering up for a pedo ring at the fancy school he works at.

Might get more traction this year then in years past.

Of course in AZ the Republicans have traditionally fielded TERRIBLE candidates so that might not be as much of a sure shot as expected.

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at April 13, 2022 05:10 PM (ESjRY)

177 Yet they'll cheat.

Of course they will. It's the only way they can win.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 13, 2022 05:11 PM (nxdel)

178 And, I hope you're correct, because I want to see Liz Cheney screaming about how unfair it was, that she was tossed aside like a worn out old shoe jerk sock.

Crunch a lung baby!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2022 05:11 PM (u9avC)

179 I don't know if it's true or not but Friedman's make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing applies somehow I'm sure.
I don't trust any politician. I question their motives.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 13, 2022 05:08 PM (4tfcV)
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The GOP is all about staying in power. Right now, they can afford to ignore their constituents. Take away that option, they'll pay attention. Democrats, however, are so committed to their ideology, they're willing to lose seats in order to advance their agenda.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 13, 2022 05:11 PM (5pTK/)

180 If the Republicans get 60 seats, no one can stop them from removing Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 04:59 PM (krQz2)

LOL

Posted by: ... at April 13, 2022 05:11 PM (dscaa)

181 If the Republicans get 60 seats, no one can stop them from removing Trump.

Or tranny super-rights.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 13, 2022 05:11 PM (lgeFv)

182 Even with a massive majority (congress & White House) repubs always fail to press the advantage.

Posted by: Les Deplorables at April 13, 2022 05:12 PM (cPRnX)

183 Yet they'll cheat.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at April 13, 2022 05:09 PM (ySQBZ)
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Because democracy dies without cheating in elections.

Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 05:12 PM (krQz2)

184 a small win and the gop leadership might do something

but a big win will make them sit on their asses

Posted by: REDACTED at April 13, 2022 05:12 PM (us2H3)

185 Manchin won by a little over 3% in 18 which was a blue wave election.

He's done if he's up during a red wave.

Posted by: I Mean at April 13, 2022 05:12 PM (I9rNZ)

186 What's the Republican platform ? What do they stand for?

Posted by: runner

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Continually humiliating the rubes is part of the kink.

Posted by: ShainS at April 13, 2022 05:12 PM (yqkFM)

187 Boris Johnson walking the streets of Kiev.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Boris Owensky

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 13, 2022 05:12 PM (KQIlm)

188 60 seats is only good with no Romneys, McCains, Collins, Murkowskis, Flakes, or now, McConnells.

The Rs will never be like the lockstep goosestepping fucking nazi left.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at April 13, 2022 05:13 PM (KiBMU)

189 Hah. Clinton stooge Sussman's gambit to have Federal Judge toss case against him denied by Judge today. Surprisingly, this judge was appointed by Obama. Or, maybe not so surprising as the Obamas have no love lost for the Clinton Criminal Organization.

Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2022 05:13 PM (oiNtH)

190 If Republicans don't go out and vote because they are black pilled, Republican candidates will surely lose.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Math Queen King of Greenland, the Merciless (don't/stop/believin') at April 13, 2022 05:05 PM (rF64X)

My heart bleeds for the poor dears.

Posted by: ... at April 13, 2022 05:14 PM (dscaa)

191 I saw Boris Johnson walking the streets of Keeeeev
His hair was .... combed.

Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 05:14 PM (krQz2)

192 A 60-seat pickup in the House by Republicans would probably ensure that every Hordes' dream is fulfilled, if the primaries come out the way they look right now.

But that's a huge fantasy that happens once every 100 plus years. Still....a moron can dream.

The Senate will swing to the Republicans, but it won't be nearly as satisfying. At least, I think it won't.

Posted by: Boswell at April 13, 2022 05:14 PM (5iUNf)

193 Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 13, 2022 05:10 PM (5p7BC)
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I sure do hope you're right, Dave. It certainly FEELS like a realignment is happening, but my FEELS have led me astray before.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 13, 2022 05:14 PM (sWM8x)

194 >>>The Rs will never be like the lockstep goosestepping fucking nazi left.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at April 13, 2022 05:13 PM (KiBMU)

I beg to differ. They're already part of that.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at April 13, 2022 05:15 PM (QYPq3)

195 The plan is to have every Democrat in Wyoming change their party registration to vote in the Republican primary.

I thought you could cross-party primary vote in WY. Could be wrong about that.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 13, 2022 05:15 PM (lgeFv)

196 He's done if he's up during a red wave.
Posted by: I Mean at April 13, 2022 05:12 PM (I9rNZ)
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It will take a forceful candidate willing to point out the times where Manchin has betrayed the people of WV.

Though, it's possible Manchin might retire, if he sees the handwriting on the wall.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at April 13, 2022 05:15 PM (5pTK/)

197 Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2022 05:13 PM (oiNtH)
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Apparently, the judge did not buy the "No Democrats should ever be punished ever" line.

Posted by: Axeman at April 13, 2022 05:15 PM (krQz2)

198 189 Hah. Clinton stooge Sussman's gambit to have Federal Judge toss case against him denied by Judge today. Surprisingly, this judge was appointed by Obama. Or, maybe not so surprising as the Obamas have no love lost for the Clinton Criminal Organization.
Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2022 05:13 PM (oiNtH)

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Evil will oft evil mar.

Posted by: Just Lily at April 13, 2022 05:15 PM (RLLZj)

199
The Senate will swing to the Republicans, but it won't be nearly as satisfying. At least, I think it won't.
Posted by: Boswell at April 13, 2022 05:14 PM (5iUNf)

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Speak for yourself, gweilo.

Posted by: Mitch's CCP Handler at April 13, 2022 05:15 PM (SKVme)

200 Do not fret citizen, we're hard at work planning to fuck this up in ways heretofore unimaginable by mere mortals.


GOPe

Posted by: Archer at April 13, 2022 05:16 PM (gmo/4)

201 @173

>>That is what is happening, not sure if you read my post last week.

Didn't read it, looking forward to.

I just don't see a grand re-alignment happening, sure the GOP surprises here and there but ultimately the same paradigm that has persisted for the last 27 years obtains, the GOP wins majorities and ultimately they waste or fitter it away.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 13, 2022 05:16 PM (g7dEQ)

202 176 Of course in AZ the Republicans have traditionally fielded TERRIBLE candidates so that might not be as much of a sure shot as expected.

Masters might actually stem the tide of GOP loser Senators.

Posted by: Lawrence L at April 13, 2022 05:16 PM (FAuXd)

203 But that's a huge fantasy that happens once every 100 plus years. Still....a moron can dream.


Talk about a dream? To super majority in both the House and the Senate and Trump in the White House.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2022 05:16 PM (u9avC)

204 It will be hilarious if the Trump Curse continues to be true, and the Dems are the ultimate example of it.

Talk about a monkey's paw: they wished to beat Trump, but in doing so they set themselves up for disaster.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 13, 2022 05:17 PM (wmDcS)

205 And MattY is a hack fraud, so this is very bad news....potentially.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 13, 2022 05:17 PM (V6f9+)

206 Hah. Clinton stooge Sussman's gambit to have Federal Judge toss case against him denied by Judge today. Surprisingly, this judge was appointed by Obama. Or, maybe not so surprising as the Obamas have no love lost for the Clinton Criminal Organization.
Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2022 05:13 PM (oiNtH)

Check mated by the text provided in evidence - ooops!

Sussman is pulling every slimy slippery lawyer's trick on accepted evidence and jury instruction and getting kicked to the curb - beginning to think even the judge is repulsed.

Posted by: Boswell at April 13, 2022 05:18 PM (5iUNf)

207 Don't worry, the Donks have a crisis waiting.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 13, 2022 05:19 PM (qnVBz)

208 "Matt Yglesias' Substack: Republicans May Have 60 Senate Seats After 2024"

But we need all three branches to get anything done! Except amnesty!

Posted by: Republicans at April 13, 2022 05:20 PM (yN/vH)

209
Every time I see one of those crude meme drawings of the scruffy soy-man with a simian fear grimace for a smile, I think of Matt Yglesias. He's totally that guy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 13, 2022 05:20 PM (SKVme)

210 You'd have to get to at least 57 senators to even hope to quash the romney types from being spoilers. Seems to me it would have to be some type of quadruple super tsunami to get there.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 13, 2022 05:20 PM (lgeFv)

211 The 'potentially' is held back by two things:
1. Election fraud (esp in AZ, NV)
2. Republicans uniparty fuckwads

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 13, 2022 05:20 PM (V6f9+)

212 "Don't worry, the Donks have a crisis waiting."

We sure hope so.

Posted by: The GOP at April 13, 2022 05:20 PM (vrz2I)

213 How you doin?

Posted by: Mail in Ballots at April 13, 2022 05:21 PM (yN/vH)

214 It's way more than 4 Republican Traitors to overcome.

Posted by: ... at April 13, 2022 05:22 PM (dscaa)

215 What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Democrats Election Fraud at April 13, 2022 05:22 PM (yN/vH)

216 @206

>>Sussman is pulling every slimy slippery lawyer's trick on accepted evidence and jury instruction and getting kicked to the curb.

Quite a lot of sturm und drang over a single ticky tack count of lying to investigators, but that is apparently the SOP of the FIB/DOJ.

I mean, if he loses he'll face hours/perhaps days in jail.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 13, 2022 05:22 PM (g7dEQ)

217 Fukin Kemp is intent on losing Georgia. Fukwit.

Posted by: fd at April 13, 2022 05:22 PM (vrz2I)

218 "How can the Democrats suddenly reverse themselves on their claim that if you don't "affirm" the "gender identities" of seven year olds, you're evil transphobes who want trans kids to die? That's a hard claim to just walk back."

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The won't. It will be 'Squrirrel!' Like when that frat boy rap TikTok in Texas causes China to nuke Taiwan.

Posted by: Legion of Boom at April 13, 2022 05:23 PM (XDTkk)

219 Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 13, 2022 05:25 PM (qnVBz)

220 51 But the left can't abandon the Woke agenda-- they have made it their central identity and established that "Wokeness" equals goodness and holiness and anti-wokeness is simply evil.
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Woke-ism is a cult, and should be treated like one.

Public school teachers aren't allowed to proselytize other cult beliefs in classrooms, so they shouldn't be allowed to proselytize this one in classrooms either.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at April 13, 2022 04:46 PM (k4dH2)


All of the Progressive movements are cults, with a shiny public veneer of "It's what the Holy Science says!" This is a terrific way to run a con-job on the public, when:
1. You can buy any amount of "esteemed" scientists you want, to say some science babble that supports your political policies; and,
2. The Media and the Professional Scientific Organizations work hard on your behalf to shut-down debate of your paid-for pseudo-science.

Having legions of woke and politicized scientists is another problem that will not be easy to fix.

Posted by: Gref at April 13, 2022 05:25 PM (AMIL/)

221 it's time to wake the f*** up and play hardball back.

Posted by Ace

The Ace is not for turning.

Posted by: Miklos Thatcher (and not Becky) at April 13, 2022 05:25 PM (514Oj)

222 And to overcome the margin of Squish in the senate, we'd need a viral mass event, leading to 64 (R) including Sen Palin (AK), Sen D. Trump (FL), Sen. D. Trump, Jr. (FL), and Sen I. Trump (NY).

Posted by: Legion of Boom at April 13, 2022 05:25 PM (XDTkk)

223 Evil will oft evil mar
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That's copyrighted, you know.

Posted by: Tolkien at April 13, 2022 05:25 PM (9Fwwf)

224 Talk about a dream? To super majority in both the House and the Senate and Trump in the White House.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2022 05:16 PM (u9avC)

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Every EO and Congressional bill signed into law would be ruled unconstitutional by Hawaiian judges nationwide and then upheld by SCOTUS.

Which could actually spell the end of the Kritarchy if Trump were to finally tell them to go pound sand.

Posted by: ShainS at April 13, 2022 05:26 PM (yqkFM)

225 Ukraine military sources say they've hit the Russian cruiser Moskva with two missiles off the Odessa coast. The ship is reportedly heavily damaged. 500 on board.

http://bitly.ws/qjvT

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 13, 2022 05:27 PM (sWM8x)

226
>>Sussman is pulling every slimy slippery lawyer's trick on accepted evidence and jury instruction and getting kicked to the curb.

Quite a lot of sturm und drang over a single ticky tack count of lying to investigators, but that is apparently the SOP of the FIB/DOJ.

I mean, if he loses he'll face hours/perhaps days in jail.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Your law license has been pre-emptively reinstated, Mr. Sussman Esq.

Posted by: The low Bar at April 13, 2022 05:27 PM (514Oj)

227 219 Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 13, 2022 05:25 PM (qnVBz)

Ah, the 'Tea Party USA' strategy

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 13, 2022 05:27 PM (V6f9+)

228 Nood

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 13, 2022 05:28 PM (W2Pud)

229 Don't forget that suburban women are Bidens most loyal base of support, simps.

Posted by: Democrats Election Fraud at April 13, 2022 05:28 PM (yN/vH)

230 164 The GOP may suck, but they are unlikely to force gender/genital erasing surgery on your kids in spite of your wishes like the Brandon administration has announced. The GOP is awful overall, but the left is terrifying.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Math Queen King of Greenland, the Merciless (don't/stop/believin') at April 13, 2022 05:08 PM (rF64X)

^^This. It is weak gruel to be sure. We need some way to play hardball once they are in office - to MAKE them vote our agenda.

Posted by: Iris at April 13, 2022 05:28 PM (DibdT)

231 189 Or, maybe not so surprising as the Obamas have no love lost for the Clinton Criminal Organization.
Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2022 05:13 PM (oiNtH)


I was just thinking recently about those photos of The Rapist, The Dogeater, and Shrub palling around. Would the first two hang out together without the third?

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik [DHS Verdict: MDM] at April 13, 2022 05:29 PM (DTX3h)

232 Off topic--but that Frank James asshole isn't 5'5". Looked closer to 6' to me.

Posted by: FriscoYoda at April 13, 2022 05:29 PM (+56GQ)

233 219 Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 13, 2022 05:25 PM (qnVBz)
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Over here honey.

Posted by: Pubbie at April 13, 2022 05:29 PM (ezSUn)

234 I don't think the Commies in Charge like Soros really care that much about majorities.

However, the Reps and Senators do, and they will all see what a loser their wokeness really is. I do hope Squad Omar up for election goes down too.

Posted by: pj at April 13, 2022 05:30 PM (G1dq6)

235 222 And to overcome the margin of Squish in the senate, we'd need a viral mass event, leading to 64 (R) including Sen Palin (AK), Sen D. Trump (FL), Sen. D. Trump, Jr. (FL), and Sen I. Trump (NY).

Posted by: Legion of Boom at April 13, 2022 05:25 PM (XDTkk)

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Speaker of the House Barron Trump.

Posted by: ShainS at April 13, 2022 05:30 PM (yqkFM)

236 I don't think Manchin will lose in 2024, since WV is always highly Republican and he still wins pretty easily. It would be nice to finally just get him to flip to Republican. Same may go with Sinema, unless Democrats primary her, but her willingness to do what she believes and not follow the party may get her another general election win.

One thing that may also protect Sinema, is the Republicans need to nominate thre shittiest candidates ever. We may be on pace to win 60 seats, but if they can put the right people in to do so, is another story.

Hopefully this does come true, and hopefully on day one they say "F it" and just start ramming through every law we want, and quickly investigating and imprisoning (and stripping the back accounts) of every Democrat who broke the law over the last 10 years (and the Rinos too) then we go on to holding the BLM and Antifa scum responsible for their crimes.

Posted by: Rbastid at April 13, 2022 05:30 PM (3cUW+)

237 2

Posted by: Braenyard at April 13, 2022 05:30 PM (ezSUn)

238 But the primaries are where the voters get to punish the GOPe that allowed the election to be stolen. Watch for places like WA-3. If Joe Kent wins that primary it is a harbinger that establishment GOPe are going to take a beating by outsiders.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 13, 2022 04:57 PM (5p7BC)
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Dave, always like your stuff and know you watch this closely. SO you buying this analysis?

Posted by: Black JEM at April 13, 2022 05:33 PM (LyTO1)

239 Yeah my old friend "Henry" from Claremont is one of the sharpest, most inciteful political analysts anywhere. Always knew he'd go far. Too bad Henry's working for the wrong team (Bezos, AEI) and has a blind spot when it comes to Trump. A Trumpist who's NeverTrump

Posted by: smokedaddy at April 13, 2022 05:34 PM (uBIRF)

240 I'm glad someone is crunching these poll numbers.

... Oh, wait...

Posted by: Max Power at April 13, 2022 05:36 PM (vWYpQ)

241 222 And to overcome the margin of Squish in the senate, we'd need a viral mass event, leading to 64 (R) including Sen Palin (AK), Sen D. Trump (FL), Sen. D. Trump, Jr. (FL), and Sen I. Trump (NY). Posted by: Legion of Boom
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That is the crux. The Republican Senate is made up of about 10% Democrats and who have a proven track record of voting with the Democrats on matters of consequence because of muh principles and bi-partisanship. 60 seats will only suffice if these seats go to actual Trump style, America first conservatives. If not, I expect a repeat of 2015-2017 period when the Republicans controlled both houses which then did everything possible to undermine Trump. Until the rotten center in the Republican party is removed we should expect nothing but more government for the government by the government.

Posted by: Lost In Space at April 13, 2022 05:40 PM (9I3i5)

242 Let me know when the voting fraud and mail in ballots have been sorted. I will believe that there is a chance to win elections after that. Until then, this is just wish fulfillment.

Posted by: sithkhan at April 13, 2022 05:45 PM (HmJTj)

243 60 seats? That's like saying you could actually pass legislation to _____________.

Ha...I crack myself up.

Posted by: Two Weeks at April 13, 2022 05:46 PM (+P7VR)

244 No doubt the real war will be over who controls the GOP, especially in the Senate. McCarthy I can barely tolerate. Better than Ryan/Gingrich/Boehner tho. Jordan would be better but is still a patsy to the techies. The real contest will be for Senate majority leader. I figure McConnell's all but done. Not even sure there is a real DeSantis like figure in the lot. maybe Johnson, Cruz, Scott?

Posted by: smokedaddy at April 13, 2022 05:56 PM (uBIRF)

245 That 538 guy says the Dems will keep the House due to gerrymandering.

Posted by: Baldy at April 13, 2022 05:58 PM (ov3Rn)

246 If we can just stop democrats from steering into disaster after disaster that would be an improvement.

Problem is you'd need a sizable majority of republicans in the senate and house to get meaningful legislation passed, to account for the various quislings. And you'd need Dems to abide by the legislative process, which they won't. And you need Republicans to STOP focusing on stupid stuff, and focus on legislation that would make a difference (for example, pass a law the any illegal crossers of the southern border are automatically refused asylum).

But Republicans first thought will be - how can we win back the affections of major corporations? What are THEIR needs? And what would the Camber of commerce like from us?

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at April 13, 2022 05:59 PM (nkp5d)

247 Wait, you mean the machines will be accurate and the dems will not cheat? Seriously? What planet are you from? Republicans will be lucky to have 40 seats, and they will be held by assorted progressive rinos anyway.

Posted by: Bama Bubba at April 13, 2022 06:06 PM (XjZhF)

248 Nate Silver says Democrats will increase their majority... article url in my nick

Posted by: Baldy at April 13, 2022 06:08 PM (ov3Rn)

249 None if this matters if the GoP(e) allows the cheat machine to do its thing unimpeded and McConnel fills the races with people selected for their loyalty to him rather than loyalty to the base. We lost both seats in AZ thanks to Mitch insisting on McSally when the base hated her. He did that same thing with Kelly Loeffler, and many others over the years.

Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at April 13, 2022 06:16 PM (TEWKg)

250 Good news! Now the riggers know how many ballots to find after election night at 4am.

Posted by: Jimbo jones at April 13, 2022 06:22 PM (g19P3)

251 I live in Nevada. Lots of Republicans moved here from Oregon, California, Illinois and other states. They don't want the Democrats. If it's a red wave, down ballot races will turn. The legislature is a SUPER majority Democrat thanks to mail in balloting.

Posted by: jeff at April 13, 2022 06:43 PM (+4Xcc)

252 "Since Joe Biden won by 4.5% in 2020"

Bullshit

Posted by: Captain Trout at April 13, 2022 06:50 PM (0AUB1)

253 If we only pick up 3 Senate seats, Romney, Murkowski and Collins will still vote with Democrats and the VP will break the tie leaving us where we are now. We need that 4th seat.

Posted by: Max Entropy at April 13, 2022 10:10 PM (rGssv)

254 Great post!

Posted by: jocon307 at April 13, 2022 11:33 PM (HYa+m)

255 McConnell and McCarthy need to go. They are Political Eunuchs and should be nowhere near leadership.

Posted by: doc182 at April 14, 2022 06:14 AM (rV/29)

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