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Verdicts In In Gretchen Whitmer Fake "Kidnapping Plot" Trial: Two Defendants Found Not Guilty, Hung Jury On Other Two Defendants
People are waking up from The Matrix.
Below, "no verdict" means hung jury. The jury could not agree on a finding and returned no verdict. This is called a mistrial, because the trial just didn't come to any outcome. They can be retried. But, the Armed Wing of the DNC, the FBI, now knows that a lot of people now understand that the FBI routinely practices illegal entrapment to please politically-powerful patrons and create supportive headlines for whatever media disinformation operation the Democrats have going at the time. Julie Kelly's write up at AmGreatness.Defense attorneys had argued--successfully, it would appear--their clients were entrapped by the FBI; at least a dozen FBI confidential human sources and undercover agents working out of numerous FBI field offices were deeply embedded in the plot. Jonker ruled before the trial began on March 8 that defense counsel could not raise the entrapment issue until the government rested its case, but that plan was quickly scuttled when it became obvious the four defense attorneys were unable effectively to represent their clients without demonstrating the FBI's extensive involvement. To prove entrapment, the defense had to convince the jury that the government induced the criminal behavior and the defendants lacked predisposition to carry out the kidnapping conspiracy on their own.
Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2 BREAKING: Verdicts in Whitmer "kidnapping" trial: ADAM FOX--the alleged ringleader NO VERDICT on conspiracy to kidnap BARRY CROFT: NO VERDICT DANIEL HARRIS ON KIDNAPPING NOT GUILTY
HARRIS NOT GUILTY ON GUN CHARGE BRANDON CASERTA NOT GUILTY OH MY GOD THIS IS HUGE THIS BASICALLY MEANS FBI IS GUILTY OF ENTRAPMENT
The FBI entrapped innocent men in 2020 in order to produce damaging headlines for Donald Trump while millions of Americans were voting for president. A crime bigger than Russiagate. Hi @JudiciaryGOP
The FBI-concocted "plot." Fox story here.
@julie_kelly2 After 18 months with the judge ruling in their favor on nearly every issue, the DOJ did not get a SINGLE CONVICTION in the alleged plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer
Defense lawyers claim informants and undercover agents improperly influenced the men. Whitmer, a Democrat who is seeking reelection, rarely talks publicly about the case. She has blamed former President Donald Trump for fomenting anger over coronavirus restrictions and refusing to condemn right-wing extremists like those charged in the case. She has said Trump was complicit in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at April 08, 2022 02:51 PM (L9Ewk)
Posted by: vacuum energy at April 08, 2022 02:51 PM (vcv8B)
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at April 08, 2022 02:51 PM (L9Ewk)
The buck stops there.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 02:51 PM (eGTCV)
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Bring the agents up on charges or it means nothing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 02:51 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 08, 2022 02:52 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Yip at April 08, 2022 02:52 PM (d+Tm9)
Juries are too unreliable for important cases.
Posted by: Democrats! at April 08, 2022 02:52 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 08, 2022 02:52 PM (qnVBz)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 08, 2022 02:52 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (J8ILO)
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything
He's already put in the order for some more HR online training for all agents about not lying and not breaking the law and stuff.
Posted by: Brian Stelter at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (FQWHA)
Posted by: Yip at April 08, 2022 02:52 PM (d+Tm9)
Flaming skull is day drinking.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, homeschooler at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (SH2Zi)
The propaganda that the FBI is Good and Noble and Pure is pervasive.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (GbPPJ)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (qnVBz)
A crime bigger than Russiagate.
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So is the Jan 6 aftermath. Not only should these people be acquitted, the FBI should be prosecuted. Never going to happen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 08, 2022 02:52 PM (qnVBz)
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Impeach!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (eGTCV)
The jury box is one of the four boxes for a reason.
Posted by: Revenant at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (b9Gb2)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (J8ILO)
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I bet they investigate the jurors who held out for acquittal.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2022 02:54 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (J8ILO)
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They'll probably also move for a change of venue to a friendly D.C. court as well.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 08, 2022 02:54 PM (YIVH2)
The propaganda that the FBI is Good and Noble and Pure is pervasive.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (GbPPJ)
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On Twitter? That fake place that's more liberal than Vermont.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 02:54 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2022 02:54 PM (wtvvX)
I bet they investigate the jurors who held out for acquittal.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2022 02:54 PM (YqDXo)
That too...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2022 02:54 PM (J8ILO)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (eGTCV)
Yet.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, homeschooler at April 08, 2022 02:54 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: Yip at April 08, 2022 02:54 PM (d+Tm9)
When half of the population has zero faith in the legal system, that's when you get dead lawyers and dead judges. Reconstruction failed despite considerably more legitimacy and moral support, and "nullification" was a major reason why.
Posted by: trev006 at April 08, 2022 02:55 PM (Eqkqm)
IN: KGB
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2022 02:54 PM (wtvvX)
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All federal LE and IC are just "organs of state security" and behave accordingly.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 08, 2022 02:55 PM (DU+/6)
LBJ is the outlier but that was more of a re-election since he was already serving out Kennedy's term.
Posted by: Christopher B at April 08, 2022
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Did this apply to Humphrey (vs. Nixon)? Carter was sort of a surprise candidate, and he won against Ford, so I guess it doesn't apply in his case.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 08, 2022 02:55 PM (txdEq)
Joking aside, It is good to see some success in the fight against the corrupt gubmint and its minions.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 08, 2022 02:55 PM (TNyrE)
Juries are too unreliable for important cases.
If we can't get that, all important trials need to be held in DC, with DC juries.
Posted by: Democrats! at April 08, 2022 02:55 PM (I2/tG)
IN: KGB
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2022 02:54 PM (wtvvX)
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All federal LE and IC are just "organs of state security" and behave accordingly.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 08, 2022 02:55 PM (DU+/6)
Domestic terror orgs, if we are honest with ourselves.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, homeschooler at April 08, 2022 02:55 PM (SH2Zi)
I'm looking at you, GOP.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 08, 2022 02:55 PM (nW0Yq)
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (y7DUB)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 02:54 PM (LvTSG)
No, I mean in pop culture.
There's, what, four or five different shows out there right now about the FBI, all portraying the FBI as super heroes.
I believe quite firmly the conspiracy theory that the funding for those shows is coming from the US government.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (GbPPJ)
Posted by: Democrats! at April 08, 2022 02:55 PM (I2/tG)
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The problem is finding 12 people in DC who don't have felony convictions themselves.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (YqDXo)
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Speaking of which, for those who hadn't heard (maybe Grammie Winger or another mentioned it) -- a couple days ago Kenosha elected a bunch of conservatives to the school board and, for the first time in history, a Republican mayor.
Posted by: ShainS -- They are Child Predators, not Groomers at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (6jQ9h)
There's, what, four or five different shows out there right now about the FBI, all portraying the FBI as super heroes.
I believe quite firmly the conspiracy theory that the funding for those shows is coming from the US government.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (GbPPJ)
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It's a good thing for them that network television is at the height of its cultural power in American history.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 02:57 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) and hour later and a dollar short at April 08, 2022 02:57 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Zek at April 08, 2022 02:57 PM (OzNIz)
I'm looking at you, GOP.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 08, 2022 02:55 PM (nW0Yq)
yep, whenever Congress asks them any tough questions, they just say "can't comment on ongoing investigations"
and Congress refuses to cut off their funding
so the FBI has effectively zero oversight
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at April 08, 2022 02:57 PM (L9Ewk)
In my opinion, lying to law enforcement should NEVER be a crime. To hell with your special rights. You're just guys who have the government's permission to rough up and detain citizens.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (YV6PJ)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 02:57 PM (LvTSG)
I'm not talking just network tv. But you know that and are just being a dick.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (GbPPJ)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) and hour later and a dollar short at April 08, 2022 02:57 PM (yQpMk)
That seems adjacent to the mission of the MSM.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (eGTCV)
and Congress refuses to cut off their funding
so the FBI has effectively zero oversight
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at April 08, 2022 02:57 PM (L9Ewk)
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They get classified hearings, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (LvTSG)
At least hope I wouldn't
Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (nMx88)
If this happens there are two possible outcomes:
1. The FBI fails as an organization and is replaced with something else
2. The state decides that extrajudicial punishment is new SOP and the death of the Constitution is completed.
Either would be better than pretending that the FBI has any legitimacy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
This is our media's mission statement as well.
Posted by: Biergood at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (FQWHA)
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (AEvJo)
The propaganda that the FBI is Good and Noble and Pure is pervasive.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:53 PM (GbPPJ)
They are those things for the 20% who are part of or aspire to be part of the Establishment. And all Twitter is now is the hive mind of the Establishment.
Posted by: WiNO - The Odds Are Never in Our Favor at April 08, 2022 02:59 PM (EpDzw)
Heaven, we beseech Thee to HELP US !!!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 08, 2022 02:59 PM (txdEq)
New& hawt: Show me the man and I'll make up the crime.
Posted by: Zek at April 08, 2022 02:59 PM (OzNIz)
Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2022 02:59 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (YqDXo)
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BREAKING: Biden Issues Presidential Pardons for All Felons Residing in D.C. for All Past & Future Crimes. Developing ...
Posted by: ShainS -- They are Child Predators, not Groomers at April 08, 2022 02:59 PM (6jQ9h)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 08, 2022 02:59 PM (D333x)
I believe quite firmly the conspiracy theory that the funding for those shows is coming from the US government.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM
Oh my gosh, I have never heard that but I totally would believe it now.
TV shows can brainwash people, I have heard that juries expect slam dunk DNA in all cases because of CSI, you would know more than me if that is in fact the case.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2022 03:00 PM (4XsZ/)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 08, 2022 03:00 PM (906pl)
We eagerly await Andy McCarthy's pronouncements regarding the "boundless legions" of superlative Feebs who will reassert themselves "any day now" and restore Feebiehood to the highest echelons of public esteem and admiration.
Take it away, Andy!
Take it away, Andy!
Take it away, Andy!
Take it away, An ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 08, 2022 03:00 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 08, 2022 03:00 PM (D333x)
I believe quite firmly the conspiracy theory that the funding for those shows is coming from the US government.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (GbPPJ)
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But are they popular? When I see those shows advertised, I roll my eyes and tamp down my desire to spit at my own television screen. I don't know how many people there may be like me.
The only program I can think of that even came close to accurately showing the FBI is The X-Files. There, the FBI is depicted as a deeply corrupt, hugely powerful organization that follows no rules whatsoever. Take the space aliens and monsters out of it, and it was probably pretty close.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 08, 2022 03:00 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2022 02:59 PM (2JoB
The only thing that happened about the Bundy ranchers cases were thrown out when the various letter agencies were caught flat out lying to the court about the surveillance, etc. was that budgets increased. So I'm a bit skeptical.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 03:00 PM (GbPPJ)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2022 03:01 PM (BFigT)
and Congress refuses to cut off their funding
so the FBI has effectively zero oversight
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at April 08, 2022 02:57 PM (L9Ewk)
The FBI and DOJ have been blackmailing Congress for years. Seth Rich and Jeffrey Epstein had to be murdered by IC/FBI cut-outs to keep the grift going.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:01 PM (nMx88)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (YqDXo)
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That and an EBT card.
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 08, 2022 03:01 PM (AEvJo)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 02:57 PM (LvTSG)
I'm not talking just network tv. But you know that and are just being a dick.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (GbPPJ)
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Troll.
However, I'm also serious. Networks have minimal influence anymore. They preach to the choir like late night talk shows. Pop culture is fractured beyond measure to the point where large percentages of people get all of their entertainment from random Youtube channels and and video games where they die a thousand times to kill a dragon.
This isn't exactly like The FBI in the 70s that was pulling in roughly 30 million viewers a week.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:01 PM (LvTSG)
At least hope I wouldn't
Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (2JoB
When you're stuck in a cell and being mistreated, I can understand why many people fold. But, yeah, I hope I would hold out. Personally, I would use the public defender only to understand the process and defend myself.
Posted by: WiNO - The Odds Are Never in Our Favor at April 08, 2022 03:01 PM (EpDzw)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2022 03:02 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: Dusky Pissflaps at April 08, 2022 03:02 PM (Rz7ER)
The only program I can think of that even came close to accurately showing the FBI is The X-Files. There, the FBI is depicted as a deeply corrupt, hugely powerful organization that follows no rules whatsoever. Take the space aliens and monsters out of it, and it was probably pretty close.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
** clears throat **
Ahem!
-- "Die Hard"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 08, 2022 03:02 PM (pNxlR)
and Congress refuses to cut off their funding
so the FBI has effectively zero oversight
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at April 08, 2022 02:57 PM (L9Ewk)
Or Chuck Grassley whines they won't talk with him.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at April 08, 2022 03:02 PM (y7DUB)
Posted by: mea culpa at April 08, 2022 03:02 PM (QmbvN)
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Those shows target the low IQ and the newbies. No one but them watch that shit.
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 08, 2022 03:02 PM (AEvJo)
Andy's style these days is to turn everything into a technically and bury the lede.
He'll admit that perhaps the FBI failed to file their DOJ Compliance Memo 7866X-2(a) in triplicate, which he can tell you all about because he prosecuted Sheik Rahman doncha know.
Posted by: Zek at April 08, 2022 03:03 PM (OzNIz)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:01 PM (LvTSG)
Yes. That's what I am. A troll. Yup. You've got it. It's been a, what, 18 year long con that I've pulled off here.
I'm just a troll.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 03:03 PM (GbPPJ)
THEY can choose when to call it quits and let it be hung jury, right?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 08, 2022 03:03 PM (D333x)
I'm just a troll.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 03:03 PM (GbPPJ)
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No, I was correcting your assertion that I was being a dick. I am a troll.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:03 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2022 03:03 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (eGTCV)
Ahem!
-- "Die Hard"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 08, 2022 03:02 PM (pNxlR)
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I dunno. In Die Hard, they were stupid. They are that, but Die Hard didn't really catch their malevolence.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Zek at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (OzNIz)
Posted by: Pony Tail at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (tzZq2)
Posted by: wth at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (v0R5T)
I'm just a troll.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 03:03 PM (GbPPJ)
You would have pulled it off, if it weren't for those meddling kids.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, homeschooler at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: Justin Castreau at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (ZW1rs)
Posted by: Gref at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
I've been watching the X-files recently and you're correct. In the one episode I just watched, Scully is called before a Congressional committee and is found in contempt of Congress when she insists there is a shadow group in the government running dark ops.
Posted by: Biergood at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (FQWHA)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (eGTCV)
At its inception.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, homeschooler at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (SH2Zi)
I once dodged jury duty in a potentially weeks-long criminal trial involving attempted murder in a gangland drug war. I told the judge I would trust the word of a cop over a "gang drug dealer." Judge said "there's been no evidence he's a drug dealer." I said "just look at him." Judge threw me right the fuck off the jury. Nowadays, I'd say I would trust the word of a gang drug dealer over the FBI.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (iFTx/)
After 18 months with the judge ruling in their favor on nearly every issue, the DOJ did not get a SINGLE CONVICTION in the alleged plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer
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This, in a system already rigged for the DOJ, Where actually everybody pleads out because going to trial means something like a 97% chance of conviction.
Top. Men.
"No reasonable prosecutor .. for reals, this time!"
Posted by: ShainS -- They are Child Predators, not Groomers at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (6jQ9h)
Posted by: Nova local at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (DU+/6)
This!
Posted by: MAC V SOG at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (P4Pk9)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (906pl)
I've been watching the X-files recently and you're correct. In the one episode I just watched, Scully is called before a Congressional committee and is found in contempt of Congress when she insists there is a shadow group in the government running dark ops.
Posted by: Biergood at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (FQWHA)
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"The shadow government are the good guys because they protect us from dangerous populists like Trump who don't believe in global warming."
-Gillian Anderson, today, probably
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (II3Gr)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022
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Yes. That's what I am. A troll. Yup. You've got it. It's been a, what, 18 year long con that I've pulled off here.
I'm just a troll.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022
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C'mon, folk, take it easy.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (txdEq)
Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:01 PM (LvTSG)
Yes. That's what I am. A troll. Yup. You've got it. It's been a, what, 18 year long con that I've pulled off here.
I'm just a troll.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 03:03 PM (GbPPJ)
Thought he meant one of those little dolls with the funny hair.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (z5Vrg)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (eGTCV)
At its inception.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, homeschooler at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (SH2Zi)
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An organization created by J. Edgar Hoover wasn't on the level from the beginning?!
Le shock!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 08, 2022 03:00 PM (DU+/6)
The FBI shows on CBS pull in about 7.5 to 5.8 million people. That's above average and abysmal at the same time. The shows skew to the 50+ age demo.
Posted by: WiNO - The Odds Are Never in Our Favor at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (EpDzw)
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2022 03:00 PM (4XsZ/)
Back when CSI was at the height of its success, there were many, many articles and discussions about the CSI effect on trials, both criminal and civil. Juries expected that you'd show up with the whiz bang presentation and all the flashy science stuff and it was a huge issue.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 03:06 PM (GbPPJ)
An actual 10% is enough.
Same as with fuzzies.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 08, 2022 03:06 PM (D333x)
Posted by: wth at April 08, 2022 03:06 PM (v0R5T)
They are that, but Die Hard didn't really catch their malevolence.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Oh, I think one of the agents taking fiendish glee in getting another chance to blow away something immerses them firmly in the malevolence spectrum.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 08, 2022 03:06 PM (pNxlR)
Egg Zackly! Especially the first season of X Files, that's essentially the theme throughout, how these corrupt people get in the way of a supposedly honest investigator, Mulder.
As for Die Hard, I lived the line "I guess we're going to have to get some more FBI agents."
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2022 03:06 PM (YV6PJ)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 08, 2022 03:07 PM (44ww/)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Except when they were discussing the innocents who were going to die when the took out the terrorists. Just acceptable loses.
I always was turned off by that. Then I came to realize that was normal operating procedure.
Posted by: Justin Castreau at April 08, 2022 03:07 PM (ZW1rs)
Posted by: ShainS -- They are Child Predators, not Groomers at April 08, 2022 03:07 PM (6jQ9h)
Posted by: Burglar casing neighborhoods at April 08, 2022 03:07 PM (5kI0z)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:04 PM (eGTCV)
It was corrupt at its inception in 1906, and thoroughly politicized a few years later by Wilson, who turned it on political opponents. It is a total abomination and is one of the reasons the United States has no moral or ethical authority to lecture any other country.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:08 PM (nMx88)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 08, 2022 03:08 PM (mp9e7)
Posted by: mr tmz at April 08, 2022 03:08 PM (rJ48h)
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022
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Thought he meant one of those little dolls with the funny hair.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 08, 2022
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I've always pictured "Kurt" as looking like those Norwegian troll figures with an enormous nose.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 08, 2022 03:08 PM (txdEq)
Posted by: WiNO - The Odds Are Never in Our Favor at April 08, 2022 03:08 PM (EpDzw)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 08, 2022 03:08 PM (mp9e7)
The ham and eggers.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 08, 2022 03:08 PM (II3Gr)
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kaliforniaistan at April 08, 2022 03:09 PM (O+TzS)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2022 03:09 PM (fe2tf)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:09 PM (eGTCV)
Maybe I don't understand the rules....
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kaliforniaistan at April 08, 2022 03:09 PM (O+TzS)
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The first rule is that there are no rules. The second rule is that if you bring gum, bring enough for everyone.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:09 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:09 PM (eGTCV)
That's the CIA.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 08, 2022 03:09 PM (z5Vrg)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2022 03:10 PM (5kI0z)
Posted by: ShainS -- They are Child Predators, not Groomers at April 08, 2022 03:10 PM (6jQ9h)
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM (AEvJo)
.......
and you would have to feed her and let her use the bathroom.
Gross.
Posted by: wth at April 08, 2022 03:10 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2022 03:10 PM (fe2tf)
It is a total abomination and is one of the reasons the United States has no moral or ethical authority to lecture any other country.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat
"What are we, chopped liver?"
-- Heavily subsidized by the U. S. (and buried deep in the books) chemical and biological warfare research in countries outside the United States.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 08, 2022 03:11 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: N.L. Urker
Nope. I know of one that didn't go to college at all. Vet, husband, good guy, stand up man.
I don't see him lasting too long there.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 08, 2022 03:11 PM (Msys3)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 08, 2022 03:11 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022
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Shhh! Probably not a good idea to talk about the gum. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 08, 2022 03:11 PM (txdEq)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:09 PM (LvTSG)
Oh.
*takes chewed up gum out of mouth*
If I divide this into enough smaller pieces I can cover most of you.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 08, 2022 03:11 PM (II3Gr)
Gross.
Posted by: wth at April 08, 2022 03:10 PM (v0R5T)
No you wouldn't.
Posted by: Stateless at April 08, 2022 03:11 PM (FsZ2q)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:11 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (2JoB
I never have but thanks for the suggestion.
Posted by: WiNO - The Odds Are Never in Our Favor at April 08, 2022 03:11 PM (EpDzw)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (II3Gr)
If you ever have the opportunity, look at information about the fiber analysis laboratory fabrications that led to hundreds of false or faulty convictions. It is astounding and, of course, no one was punished. These fascist pigs had a free hand for decades due to their ability to blackmail Congress.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:11 PM (nMx88)
Either would be better than pretending that the FBI has any legitimacy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Should we tell him?
Posted by: J6 prisoners at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (q/4OD)
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2022 03:00 PM (4XsZ/)
Back when CSI was at the height of its success, there were many, many articles and discussions about the CSI effect on trials, both criminal and civil. Juries expected that you'd show up with the whiz bang presentation and all the flashy science stuff and it was a huge issue.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 03:06 PM (GbPPJ)
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My dad was a criminal lawyer in the 80s and even then the jury's expectations were influenced by TV law shows. The jury naturally expected that there would be some dramatic reveal that the real killer was the judge or something like that. My dad added a standard line in his opening that this wasn't a TV show and he wasn't going to prove that the real killer was a guy sitting in the back row of the courtroom.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 03:06 PM (GbPPJ)
Felt this way during the 2020 election steal talk. Everyone was waiting for that incriminating flash drive to appear. The big reveal!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (KbCG3)
So there's that.
***
Pretty sure his dad is wishing he'd used a condom that night.
Posted by: Azathoth at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (wZTw3)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:09 PM (LvTSG)
*opens CONEX full of guns*
I don't read good.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (P4LRL)
Posted by: N.L. Urker
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Nope. I know of one that didn't go to college at all. Vet, husband, good guy, stand up man.
I don't see him lasting too long there.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 08, 2022
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As a kid, I read in an encyclopedia article that all FBI agents had to have either an accounting or a law degree. I guess either that was not true, or it was discarded long ago?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (txdEq)
https://tinyurl.com/mr3pyaxb
https://tinyurl.com/2v7rd5pt
https://tinyurl.com/3p92ewet
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (LvTSG)
Except when they were discussing the innocents who were going to die when the took out the terrorists. Just acceptable loses.
Yeah when I saw Die Hard, I thought that was excessively cynical... but now I think its not cynical enough. Today the FBI agents would be discussing how they set this up and it went wrong so they have to figure out a way to cut their losses and eliminate their former employees.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:13 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 08, 2022 03:13 PM (KFhLj)
If you ever have the opportunity, look at information about the fiber analysis laboratory fabrications that led to hundreds of false or faulty convictions. It is astounding and, of course, no one was punished. These fascist pigs had a free hand for decades due to their ability to blackmail Congress.
Posted by: Trump poisoned
Don't forget me
Posted by: Bite mark lab at April 08, 2022 03:13 PM (q/4OD)
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (iFTx/)
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 08, 2022 03:13 PM (z5Vrg)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 08, 2022 03:11 PM (sWM8x)
No, it won't because they are being tried in DC. I doubt there are many Federal judges in fly over country who would let people rot in a cell for almost a year and a half without being charged.
Posted by: WiNO - The Odds Are Never in Our Favor at April 08, 2022 03:13 PM (EpDzw)
Posted by: Azathoth at April 08, 2022 03:13 PM (wb1YC)
Me thinks not.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 08, 2022 03:14 PM (iDcra)
Posted by: J6 prisoners at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (q/4OD)
++++
They're not the norm yet.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 08, 2022 03:14 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Azathoth at April 08, 2022 03:13 PM (wb1YC)
Do these matching khakis make our asses look fat?
Posted by: Patriot Front at April 08, 2022 03:14 PM (II3Gr)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:09 PM (eGTCV)
My cousin was an accounting/business major and the FBI recruited him out of a non ivy college. He ended up working for a private company but the FBI contacted him.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2022 03:15 PM (4XsZ/)
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (iFTx/)
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I blame Perry Mason!
Posted by: ShainS -- They are Child Predators, not Groomers at April 08, 2022 03:15 PM (6jQ9h)
Posted by: Skip's Phone at April 08, 2022 03:15 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 08, 2022 03:13 PM (KFhLj)
This, x100.
Posted by: Nova local at April 08, 2022 03:15 PM (exHjb)
But there should be NO trials of people IN DC because its not a state, its not a real part of the USA and is allegedly part of the entire nation, not one sovereign section of it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:15 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: The FBI at April 08, 2022 03:15 PM (8AONa)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2022 03:16 PM (5kI0z)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2022 03:16 PM (J8ILO)
Posted by: Bite mark lab at April 08, 2022 03:13 PM (q/4OD)
There were dentists who made a lot of coin off that voodoo.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:16 PM (nMx88)
What would Hot Gas be like without AP? He could be off drinking with Jonah and Eric.
Posted by: Eeyore at April 08, 2022 03:16 PM (R0Tis)
This is what bothers me. The worst punishment they ever seem to get is either "more education" or "we lost that case". There's never any penalty to lying, withholding evidence, abuse of power, etc. Its just "now don't do that again!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:16 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 08, 2022
.......
and you would have to feed her and let her use the bathroom.
Gross.
Posted by: wth at April 08, 2022
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What was the ancient Eastern torture where they put the victim in a big stone coffin, though with an opening for the face, and fed him, but never let him out -- so that not only was he disgusting to himself, he drew flies and other insects . . .?
I wasn't suggesting anything like that for Gretchen, no, sir! Not at all! Just curious . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 08, 2022 03:16 PM (txdEq)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:16 PM (nMx8
What voodoo?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 08, 2022 03:16 PM (d0Qel)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (KbCG3)
Putting faith in the Smoking Gun™ presupposes that discovering it will change everything. Or, strictly speaking, anything.
Dems: Here's the flash drive with all the fake votes.
Dominion: Well not all of them, we added a few over the internet direct to the tabulation machines.
Electorate: Well, he did say "pussy". So it's fine.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (P4LRL)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:12 PM (LvTSG)
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You're gonna smooth things over with Alex "The Chick" by posting pics of a hot chick?? Bold strategy, Cotton.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (iFTx/)
That Hollywood image of the straight as an arrow, "untouchable" G-man fighting for truth, justice, and the American way was entirely the creation of J. Edgar Hoover.
He had friends in Hollywood. By fried, I mean people he had blackmail material on. Every president from JFK on wanted to get rid of him, but he had dirt on all of them.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (wZTw3)
Posted by: mr tmz at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (rJ48h)
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (iFTx/)
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You may not be familiar with AtC's taste in women, but I am.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (LvTSG)
But there should be NO trials of people IN DC because its not a state, its not a real part of the USA and is allegedly part of the entire nation, not one sovereign section of it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:15 PM (KZzsI)
Ahh, someone echoing something I posted month's ago about crimes on DC national property (vs the "city" part)...
My solution was to have a "hat draw" for the federal district you end up in...so no party could guarantee a certain appeals court or judge...
Posted by: Nova local at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (II3Gr)
I believe quite firmly the conspiracy theory that the funding for those shows is coming from the US government.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM
Oh my gosh, I have never heard that but I totally would believe it now.
...
It's well known that the Department of Defense will provide its aircraft carriers and planes and tanks for Hollywood to film for its movies -- essentially millions of dollars of donations to Hollywood; it's hard to make a convincing aircraft carrier with models -- if the movie shows the military in a positive light.
I am sure there is a similar and frankly illegal program for federal intelligence and law enforcement agencie.
Posted by: ace at April 08, 2022 03:18 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:16 PM (nMx
What voodoo?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 08, 2022 03:16 PM (d0Qel)
Dentistry.
Posted by: Great Britain at April 08, 2022 03:18 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 08, 2022 03:11 PM (sWM8x)
No, it won't because they are being tried in DC. I doubt there are many Federal judges in fly over country who would let people rot in a cell for almost a year and a half without being charged.
Posted by: WiNO - The Odds Are Never in Our Favor at April 08, 2022 03:13 PM (Ep
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I was thinking in terms of jurors changing their assessment of feds' credibility.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 08, 2022 03:18 PM (sWM8x)
Like the "accelerant" thing in firefighting. Almost all of that was proven to be at best misleading and often just nonsense. A ton of stuff portrayed in movies and TV as absolute fact are simply bullcrap. I suspect in the near future we're going to learn that DNA evidence as it now stands is not nearly as trustworthy or reliable as claimed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:18 PM (KZzsI)
No, I mean in pop culture.
There's, what, four or five different shows out there right now about the FBI, all portraying the FBI as super heroes.
I believe quite firmly the conspiracy theory that the funding for those shows is coming from the US government.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (GbPPJ)
I've wondered this also.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2022 03:18 PM (Qhnrt)
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (iFTx/)
Guess you're new here.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 08, 2022 03:18 PM (II3Gr)
That's laughable. If he makes a good movie, BIG IF, that will disappear over night
LMAO
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 08, 2022 03:18 PM (d0Qel)
She's electric
She's in a family full of eccentrics
She's done things I never expected
And I need more time
She's got a sister
And God only knows how I've missed her
And on the palm of her hand is a blister
And I need more time
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 08, 2022 03:18 PM (M+Lyo)
The LIV's will never hear about this. The ones that heard about the original story certainly did not follow it and if they have any memory of it will be that white supremacists had some plot to kidnap a governor and the FBI broke it up.
The Matrix is still intact.
Posted by: Ripley at April 08, 2022 03:18 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at April 08, 2022 03:19 PM (K58O6)
Obviously you cannot rent an aircraft carrier for a few days.
Posted by: ace at April 08, 2022 03:19 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (iFTx/)
You must be new here.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at April 08, 2022 03:19 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: kraken at April 08, 2022 03:19 PM (Vr12I)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 08, 2022 03:16 PM (txdEq)
.........
Of course you weren't. That would be terrible!
Posted by: wth at April 08, 2022 03:19 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 08, 2022 03:16 PM (d0Qel)
All of it.
And don't get me started on "touch DNA..."
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:19 PM (nMx88)
The FBI needs to be disbanded by an actual conservative president.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:19 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 08, 2022 03:05 PM (II3Gr)
I've been a juror 4x in my life -three times on criminal trials. Always assumed the cops were honest and had no skin in the game. No more! Next time I may just state in voir dire that I can't be impartial because they're all lying b******ds and that includes the prosecutors. Sorry guys - you've lost all credibility. Why should I trust you after Whitmer, the laptop, the lady who was shot at the capital, the unconstitutional (in my opinion) detention of the J6 defendants, the abuse of power under Covid, letting BLM rioters walk.....
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kaliforniaistan at April 08, 2022 03:19 PM (O+TzS)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (wZTw3)
Thus, FBI should be required to tape all interviews and turn a copy over to the defense lawyer and the defendant (and any witnesses and witness lawyers) AS they are sitting still at the interview where they all agree X is X...
Posted by: Nova local at April 08, 2022 03:19 PM (exHjb)
Ultimately I think this all tended to benefit the prosecution more than the defense. You would get experts who would come and say how finding this hair at the scene (did you? Did you really??) means there's only one person who could have committed the crime. And juries believe them because it's the government's witness, and why would the government's expert lie?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2022 03:20 PM (YV6PJ)
That's racist.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at April 08, 2022 03:20 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 08, 2022 03:20 PM (mp9e7)
I think that's an excellent compromise. Nobody gaming the system for a state that always goes their way, just random chance.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:21 PM (KZzsI)
I believe quite firmly the conspiracy theory that the funding for those shows is coming from the US government.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (GbPPJ)
Makes me wonder about The FBI back in the 60s/70s with Efrem Zimbalist Jr. I'm pretty sure it was made "in cooperation" with the FBI, but in retrospect I wouldn't be surpised if J. Edgar was funneling money into it...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2022 03:21 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2022 03:21 PM (P3gRi)
That's laughable. If he makes a good movie, BIG IF, that will disappear over night
LMAO
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 08, 2022 03:18 PM (d0Qel)
By the way I will probably not be at the Oscars in the next 10 years either. The last 60 years my invitation must have gotten lost?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 08, 2022 03:21 PM (d0Qel)
Posted by: Skip's Phone at April 08, 2022 03:21 PM (2JoB8)
I am sure there is a similar and frankly illegal program for federal intelligence and law enforcement agencie.
Posted by: ace at April 08, 2022 03:18 PM (0G13K)
During the Clinton years, I think they clamped down on the military doing that. Someone pointed out that "Top Gun" would not have been made under the new rules. They said that was the point.
Posted by: WiNO - The Odds Are Never in Our Favor at April 08, 2022 03:21 PM (EpDzw)
I wish I could find it but there is government liaisons in Hollywood. So, yeah, no conspiracy.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 08, 2022 03:21 PM (mp9e7)
Posted by: JROD at April 08, 2022 03:22 PM (0jZnq)
Posted by: vacuum energy at April 08, 2022 03:22 PM (vcv8B)
Posted by: Alec Leamas (working from home) at April 08, 2022 03:22 PM (HCRZt)
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:58 PM
Now, now, Empress...he didn't mention Prometheus.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2022 03:22 PM (RkC6l)
While I agree, I suspect Will Smith is going to find it tough to get new work after his current stuff plays out. I mean he's working on movies right now, but I think the box office is going to suffer from him being in them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:22 PM (KZzsI)
Perry Mason effect. That was a problem, too, back in the day. Juries expected a Perry Mason moment where he'd trap the real killer and get a confession in open court.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at April 08, 2022 03:22 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 08, 2022 03:23 PM (sWM8x)
There's, what, four or five different shows out there right now about the FBI, all portraying the FBI as super heroes.
I believe quite firmly the conspiracy theory that the funding for those shows is coming from the US government.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (GbPPJ)
It is hard to find, but there was a made-for-TV docudrama rapidly cranked out by NBC after the federal massacre of women and children in Waco. It came out many years later that the ATF more or less helped produce it, which presumably meant helped fund it, too. Title escapes me. None of this stuff is new but it is unraveling in such a way as to be too obvious not to notice.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:23 PM (nMx88)
I've heard nothing about a giant mudslide taking out Lansing, so maybe not.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2022 03:23 PM (bW8dp)
Posted by: JROD at April 08, 2022 03:22 PM (0jZnq)
Who is no Weinstein.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at April 08, 2022 03:23 PM (SH2Zi)
Mais, non.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 08, 2022 03:23 PM (P4LRL)
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 08, 2022 03:23 PM (AEvJo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 08, 2022 03:23 PM (d0Qel)
I cannot remember their budget but the FBI does have an entire section that does nothing but deal with the media and work on getting positive portrayals in TV, movies, and news reports. They always have at least one "look at how noble, heroic, straight-shooting, and amazing the FBI is!" show at any given time going back to the 50s.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:24 PM (KZzsI)
New York City loses court fight to boot Trump Organization from operating Bronx golf course
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 08, 2022 03:23 PM (d0Qel)
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"Trump evades punishment from obvious wrongdoing due to political connections."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:24 PM (LvTSG)
He got first pick of the leftovers from the female wardrobe department.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2022 03:24 PM (bW8dp)
Posted by: alexthechick
I don't know. Do you think Hollywood would want to be dealing with those immoral perverts?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2022 03:24 PM (5kI0z)
I believe quite firmly the conspiracy theory that the funding for those shows is coming from the US government.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria
Completely agree. It's propaganda for the LIVs, so they will always side with the feebs and not their lying eyes.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:24 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: JROD at April 08, 2022 03:25 PM (0jZnq)
The cheap easy way is acid, which erodes the metal, but the compacted metal where the number was stamped is slower to corrode, so it "rises" up to be read. Its not foolproof but it does work pretty well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:25 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2022 03:26 PM (YV6PJ)
if I post a skull on this story they will arrest me for "incitement."
The Regime will get more brutal and more criminal as it loses its power. Corrupt regimes always do.
Posted by: ace at April 08, 2022 03:26 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: kraken at April 08, 2022 03:26 PM (Vr12I)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:19 PM (bkUtD)
No president, no matter how "conservative" is going to disband a government agency without the support of Congress, which he won't have.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 08, 2022 03:26 PM (wmDcS)
FFS, the "insurrection" interrupted the OBJECTIONS to the electors that Trump wanted.
Stopping that was the opposite of what Trump wanted.
Posted by: Venus at April 08, 2022 03:27 PM (YVBLw)
While I agree, I suspect Will Smith is going to find it tough to get new work after his current stuff plays out. I mean he's working on movies right now, but I think the box office is going to suffer from him being in them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:22 PM (KZzsI)
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Depends. I'm not sure whether it will hurt him or help him or just mean nothing. Had it involved any kind of "me too" or abuse of women, then he'd be DOA -- just look what happened to Johnny Depp based on nothing but outrageous lies from his crazy bitch wife, who was herself physically abusing him. But he slapped a man -- it was staged, but whatever -- in defense of his wife. What I think will hurt him more is that people now see him as a weak, pathetic cuck. Not a good look for an action star.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 08, 2022 03:27 PM (iFTx/)
The Regime will get more brutal and more criminal as it loses its power. Corrupt regimes always do.
Posted by: ace at April 08, 2022 03:26 PM (0G13K)
Flaming pudding cup then.
Posted by: Archer at April 08, 2022 03:27 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 08, 2022 03:27 PM (mp9e7)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 08, 2022 03:26 PM (wmDcS)
........
Sad.
Posted by: wth at April 08, 2022 03:27 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2022 03:27 PM (BFigT)
Well not any famous or powerful one. Trump shut down Warren's kickback "consumer" agency by simply letting funding lapse. The congressional hearings with the head of the department were hilarious. He literally was there to try to tank the thing.
Trump for real did shrink the size of the federal government, by a tiny amount.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:27 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:19 PM (bkUtD)
No president, no matter how "conservative" is going to disband a government agency without the support of Congress, which he won't have.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 08, 2022 03:26 PM (wmDcS)
Trump's plan, likely to be blocked by the courts, was to recategorize most employees to a type that is fireable.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 08, 2022 03:28 PM (z5Vrg)
The Regime will get more brutal and more criminal as it loses its power. Corrupt regimes always do.
Posted by: ace at April 08, 2022 03:26 PM (0G13K)
This is actually true. The increasing intensity and number of outrages is because this corrupt empire feels the ground shifting under its feet.
But...this was fiery skull worthy.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:29 PM (nMx88)
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 08, 2022 03:27 PM (iFTx/)
He could've come out of this thing looking like a hero if he had spent his acceptance speech time defending his wife. Instead, he looked like a bitch and then got exposed to the world as a cuck bitch.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 08, 2022 03:29 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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And we see how that worked for him....
Posted by: lin-duh at April 08, 2022 03:29 PM (zCaF8)
Posted by: Skip's Phone at April 08, 2022 03:29 PM (2JoB8)
Yeah that's what I meant. The slap was pretty irrelevant (other than I mean, slapping another dude, which is really effeminate) other than why he did it and the whole cuck side of things. Who's gonna by Will Smith as an action tough guy now that he's been revealed to be such a punk?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:29 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2022 03:29 PM (5kI0z)
If he suffers at the box office, it won't be because of the slap, which no one truly cares about, excepting possibly Rock. It'll be because it brought to the fore all the humiliating marital stuff. You can't be a leading man if no one believes you're a man.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 08, 2022 03:30 PM (KFhLj)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:30 PM (eGTCV)
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Appealing a not guilty verdict. Sounds like what leftists would want when they don't get their way.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 08, 2022 03:30 PM (sVtYq)
Still one of the all-time greatest scenes in cinematic history:
https://youtu.be/HwhB5uCaj3Y
Posted by: Sharkman at April 08, 2022 03:30 PM (SK57M)
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 08, 2022 03:17 PM (iFTx/)
I would like to say it's not that easy but, well, you know.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 03:30 PM (GbPPJ)
Now demand that the GOP run on a promise of removing qualified immunity from the FBI and DOJ and then shepherd a few hundred lawsuits at those fuckers.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 08, 2022 03:30 PM (p6Md5)
- 6:00AM raids
- no knock warrants
- the brillcream enema investigations
- asset seizure.
I could go on but it is 4 AM here.
(the brillcream enema is a movie allusion. Don't remember the movie, but the line was something about so many feds up your ass you won't be able to get the taste of brillcream out of your mouth.)
Posted by: J6 prisoners at April 08, 2022 03:30 PM (q/4OD)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:31 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:31 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Sharkman at April 08, 2022 03:30 PM (SK57M)
The one from Fast Times at Ridgemont High?
Posted by: hogmartin at April 08, 2022 03:31 PM (P4LRL)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:30 PM (eGTCV)
.........
Me? I'm waiting for Hannity.
Posted by: wth at April 08, 2022 03:31 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:09 PM (eGTCV)
My cousin was an accounting/business major and the FBI recruited him out of a non ivy college. He ended up working for a private company but the FBI contacted him.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2022 03:15 PM (4XsZ/)
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In the great book "Charlie Wilson's War," CIA operative Gust Avrakotos (portrayed by Philip Seymour Hoffman in the film) describes the arrogance of the upper echelon all being Ivy League graduate blue bloods, looking down on kids like him from working class Greek immigrants.
Posted by: ShainS -- They are Child Predators, not Groomers at April 08, 2022 03:31 PM (6jQ9h)
Every episode of "The FBI" show was vetted by Clyde Tolson, Hoover's #2. Every actor who played an FBI agent had to be approved by the FBI.
If Tolson or Hoover didn't like something, it didn't air.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at April 08, 2022 03:31 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 08, 2022 03:32 PM (p+1gI)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 08, 2022 03:30 PM (p6Md5)
As a reminder, the response of a number of GOP senators to the state-sponsored BLM terror was to eliminate Columbus Day as a national holiday.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:32 PM (nMx88)
Appealing a not guilty verdict. Sounds like what leftists would want when they don't get their way.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 08, 2022 03:30 PM (sVtYq)
This shows me they have not the slightest notion of what our fundamental laws are. What DID they do in school, anyway?
Posted by: kraken at April 08, 2022 03:32 PM (Vr12I)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at April 08, 2022 03:32 PM (Ynyl9)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2022 03:33 PM (ZLI7S)
I hate these people entirely too much for it to be good for my immortal soul. But I can't just say: "No biggie" when people are intent on destroying children.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 08, 2022 03:33 PM (SK57M)
"Well, it worked, didn't it?" -- as Harry Reid would say
These people are scumbags
Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2022 03:33 PM (MmndN)
Did this apply to Humphrey (vs. Nixon)? Carter was sort of a surprise candidate, and he won against Ford, so I guess it doesn't apply in his case.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 08, 2022 02:55 PM
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I think it applies with Carter, who IIRC wasn't on anybody's radar in 1976.
And thinking about it, yes on Humphrey, too, as an example of losing with a fairly well known quantity.
I was stretching things a bit to say the Democrats always *nominate* the surprise candidate. They obviously don't but it's pretty much the only way they can win.
Posted by: Christopher B at April 08, 2022 03:33 PM (X9jbP)
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My guess the Suits are realizing the Academy is an expense they can live without.
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 08, 2022 03:34 PM (AEvJo)
Posted by: SamIam at April 08, 2022 03:34 PM (oasF3)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 08, 2022 03:30 PM (eGTCV)
French is glued to Twitter, seeing how his fellow leftwingers respond, and then will formulate his response, which will align exactly.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:34 PM (nMx88)
Juries are too unreliable for important cases.
Posted by: Democrats! at April 08, 2022 02:52 PM (I2/tG)
You bastards can count on a "special" court whenever you go on trial.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 08, 2022 03:34 PM (Hszs6)
I believe quite firmly the conspiracy theory that the funding for those shows is coming from the US government.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (GbPPJ)
**Interesting theory. I watch those shows and they have the usual crap white supremacist criminals so woke stuff that is indeed trying to support the narrative (as in this is just normal bad guy stuff).
Posted by: Iris at April 08, 2022 03:35 PM (DibdT)
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Humphrey was the fall guy for LBJ and the party. He knew it. So did everyone else.
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 08, 2022 03:35 PM (AEvJo)
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 08, 2022 03:35 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
I get that, but a man can dream. You'd think there would be enough congresscritters who love America, but... oh, never mind.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:35 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at April 08, 2022 03:35 PM (aJQIl)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at April 08, 2022 03:32 PM (Ynyl9)
There's been a few like that but that was the main one I remember.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 03:35 PM (GbPPJ)
Posted by: Beto Ochoa at April 08, 2022 03:35 PM (dzZCL)
LOL.
No, no, no. It's called a "mistrial" because the pre-determined outcome of a fake case didn't happen.
If the government cannot convince 12 jurors of your guilt, then you're NOT GUILTY.
An outcome occurred. Just not the pre-determined outcome that everyone in government has been conspiring to create.
Posted by: JamesCarville at April 08, 2022 03:36 PM (vkzx+)
Posted by: Lady in Black
When will you be detained for wrongthink?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:36 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: mallfly
The best way to be excused from jury duty is to show up wearing a suit and tie.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2022 03:36 PM (5kI0z)
Posted by: Richard AUBREY at April 08, 2022 03:36 PM (dSnnl)
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Have him wave at the old Hospital. Birthplace of Puddinhead.
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 08, 2022 03:37 PM (AEvJo)
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 08, 2022 03:35 PM (sVtYq)
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There is a great rifle range (#4) next to the FBI training facility at Quantico. Just fyi.
Posted by: Weasel at April 08, 2022 03:37 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at April 08, 2022 03:37 PM (aJQIl)
CIA/FBI ... destroying American Liberties since WW2, building their NWO thiefdom.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2022 03:37 PM (Cus5s)
They can try again after a mistrial.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 08, 2022 03:37 PM (z5Vrg)
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Or a MAGA hat.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 08, 2022 03:37 PM (rV1pr)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant
Hannity will be sucking off the FBI on his radio and TV show today.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:37 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 02:57 PM
^^LOL yes. My daughters watch streaming shows and podcasts. I still watch CBS (legacy of NCIS fandom) and their new shows are set in a nursing home and a bowling hero. Anyone think those ideas are their idea of what appeals to flyover rubes who watch the network?
Posted by: Iris at April 08, 2022 03:37 PM (DibdT)
First, what no one in the MSM revealed during the 2020 campaign: Pete's husband, Chasten, is a bigtime LGBT activist. There have been clips out recently showing him at some LGBT kids camp leading a gay pledge of allegiance or some other BS.
Second, it is demonic how these people groom and mutilate young kids and THEN accuse everyone else of causing them to be depressed and suicidal. EVIL
Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2022 03:37 PM (MmndN)
Posted by: wth at April 08, 2022 03:31 PM (v0R5T)
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"Hey, you're gonna have a few bad ham and eggers in every professional omelette. Let me tell you about the time I was painting houses ..."
Posted by: ShainS -- They are Child Predators, not Groomers at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM (6jQ9h)
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1,000 yard range if you have gate guards. Never got to shoot my 03 Spirngfield there. Too bad.
Posted by: Puddinhead at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM (AEvJo)
Lady in Black. See if the feds teach framing to be less obvious than in the Jewell case, or do they just go ahead and play the odds.
Posted by: Richard AUBREY at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM (dSnnl)
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You know, I'm trying to keep positive about it for their sake. Sibling is idealistically conservative and very thrilled with the opportunity.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: Beto Ochoa at April 08, 2022 03:35 PM (dzZCL)
A miniscule number of federal cases go to trial, so the State knows everything about these jurors. So, yeah, probably.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM (nMx88)
He loves war cock more.
Posted by: Beto Ochoa at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM (dzZCL)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Y5 at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM (KrdbI)
Posted by: Weasel at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: mr tmz at April 08, 2022 03:08 PM (rJ48h)
This. And every morning, every employee who enters the building has to stop at building security, and recite a prayer: "Lord, I am entering into a building named in honor of a good citizen whose life was destroyed by the organization housed herein. Please guide my heart and my hands to act with honesty and integrity so that no such travesty ever happens again. Amen."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2022 03:39 PM (P3gRi)
http://bitly.ws/q9vW
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM (sWM8x)
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Will they also only pay 0.5% of their GDP towards defense now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:39 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Lady in Black
Here's hoping sibling doesn't change.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:39 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria
Of course it is. Hell, "Stripes" was a paid ad for the Army.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 08, 2022 03:39 PM (OssQ4)
Hoover (and other govt agency) control of Hollywood back in the day is staggering to read about.
Remember the "Hays Code", a "voluntary" censorship code? Yep, Hoover, and the rest of the Feds used that for their purposes. In '54 Congress passed a law that made it illegal to portray the FBI for "commercial purposes" without the approval of the FBI director.
How, and if that passed Consitutional muster, I don't know. But they complied.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at April 08, 2022 03:39 PM (Mzdiz)
We are in the best of hands.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
http://bitly.ws/q9vW
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM (sWM8x)
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Will they also only pay 0.5% of their GDP towards defense now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:39 PM (LvTSG)
"We're safe! Under the US umbrella of defense. Time to delete our military."
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (z5Vrg)
@ShidelerK
Considering this case, the fact that the FBI refuses to tell Congress about any UC/CIs present at J6, and that two Iranians just successfully pretended to be UC Feds in a scheme 2 entrap secret service agents. maybe we need some reforms to Fed undercover practices?
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Ya think?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Weasel at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM
Will WeaselDog and Fun-Sized Joe be joining us for the MoMe this year?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (RkC6l)
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At least for now, I think they're going to be placed in the hostage rescue area of the job description. Maybe Framing Political Opponents of Democrats 101 comes later?
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 08, 2022 03:39 PM (OssQ4)
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That's a fact, Jack.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (YFU8M)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist
Saw the Russkies destroyed a train station in Ukraine today/. Killed a bunch of civilians. Again.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 08, 2022 03:39 PM (OssQ4)
I wish I was a luffa.
Posted by: Robert at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (3l6bN)
By David K. Li and Mohammed Syed
A federal jury failed to convict four men accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, whom they despised for the restrictions she ordered early in the pandemic.
Acquitted? Nah. Failed to convict. Was that on the jury report form? As in:
Choose one:
A. Guilty
B. We failed to find the scum guilty.
Posted by: Gref at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:37 PM (bkUtD)
Yeah, Hannity will be touting how 99 percent of FBI agents have never been convicted of serial child rape.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (nMx88)
Posted by: Thomas Paine
A guy showed up as part of the jury pool I attended a couple years ago in a wife beater, baggy camp short and Doc Martins. Looked like he just came off a 2 week bender.
Shockingly, he did not make the cut.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at April 08, 2022 03:41 PM (aJQIl)
Will they also only pay 0.5% of their GDP towards defense now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:39 PM (LvTSG)
I am trying to get the grift angle down pat. Because there HAS to be a solid grift going on. Sort of a "cui bono?"
Posted by: kraken at April 08, 2022 03:41 PM (Vr12I)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 08, 2022 03:41 PM (eeRB6)
Nice work, Jada.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2022 03:09 PM (fe2tf)
Well, if those fools think that banning Will Smith will cause me to stop not watching the Oscars after decades of not watching the Oscars, more fools they.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2022 03:42 PM (P3gRi)
Posted by: Weasel at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM
Will WeaselDog and Fun-Sized Joe be joining us for the MoMe this year?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2022 03:40 PM (RkC6l)
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Hmmm... there's an idea! Unfortunately, WD tries to bite the face off of people she doesn't know. FSJ just barks and wags his tail a lot.
Posted by: Weasel at April 08, 2022 03:42 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Lizzy
There is an important reason they hate for the word grooming to be used. Grooming is innate in the trans crowd - it is their recruitment tool. As soon as the Florida law passed, they immediately tried to deflect it into 'Don't say gay' so people wouldn't make the connection. The proper term is anti grooming law.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2022 03:42 PM (5kI0z)
and the missle didn't blow up on impact
excuse me while I saddle up my unicorn , to go find the tooth fairy
Posted by: REDACTED at April 08, 2022 03:42 PM (us2H3)
They've clearly come to the conclusion that the FBI is made up of a bunch of weasels.
And that "Not Guilty" verdicts are to be the default outcome any time an FBI agent is involved in a case because if there's one involved, he's lying his ass off.
Posted by: JamesCarville at April 08, 2022 03:43 PM (oNqTv)
Posted by: Weasel at April 08, 2022 03:42 PM
Hmm...that could be a touch awkward.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2022 03:43 PM (RkC6l)
Posted by: Robert at April 08, 2022 03:43 PM (3l6bN)
Not the former SAC. He was a case agent assigned to Kalamazoo RA. I went through FI school with him in 2018. He was kinda odd, to say the least.
Posted by: Greyman27 at April 08, 2022 03:44 PM (RKLPC)
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan at April 08, 2022 03:44 PM (Y0ySG)
Posted by: Robert at April 08, 2022 03:43 PM (3l6bN)
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Will Smith as the Frito Bandito?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 08, 2022 03:44 PM (YFU8M)
Now they want in NATO?
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at April 08, 2022 03:44 PM (aJQIl)
MomA watches them. I usually leave rather than rant.
They just killed off the one character she liked.
I assume they'll put the black lesbian from Steatopygia in charge.
Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2022 03:44 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Greyman27 at April 08, 2022 03:44 PM (RKLPC)
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And at no point in training was he deemed too unstable to be an agent of the federal government.
Seems legit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:44 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 08, 2022 03:45 PM (sVtYq)
IRS most likely
Posted by: Skip's Phone at April 08, 2022 03:45 PM (2JoB8)
Hmm...that could be a touch awkward.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2022 03:43 PM (RkC6l)
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You DO NOT want to be a mailman and have WD on your route!
Posted by: Weasel at April 08, 2022 03:45 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: kraken at April 08, 2022 03:45 PM (Vr12I)
I was just reading about Hoover would aggressively intervene if he got wind that any movie was going to portray the FBI in a negative light.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at April 08, 2022 03:45 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (aJQIl)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 08, 2022 03:44 PM
Definitely not El Macho.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (RkC6l)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (MmndN)
Bad hair days are not an issue for her.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (ZLI7S)
Seems legit."
It's weird, now that I think about it, but I don't remember him ever mentioning having a family. Of course, I was way too focused on passing the bullseye course to avoid getting sent home on day 3.
Posted by: Greyman27 at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (RKLPC)
Did he not get any?
That must be it. His wife got double teamed by two dudes he hated and he failed to get some hot sleaze from the neighborhood skank ho.
Posted by: Robert at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (SAnUp)
Posted by: Robert at April 08, 2022 03:43 PM (3l6bN)
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And sunglasses!
Posted by: Weasel at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at April 08, 2022 03:44 PM (aJQIl)
I'd just prefer we leave NATO (which of course means end it).
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (QYPq3)
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As noted here recently, "transgender" children tend to have multiple psychological comorbidities. There rates of suicide are similar to those NON-"trangender" children with those same psychological comorbidities.
SCIENCE!
Posted by: ShainS -- They are Child Predators, not Groomers at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (6jQ9h)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (RkC6l)
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I could see him chilling with the guac, though.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (YFU8M)
I believe quite firmly the conspiracy theory that the funding for those shows is coming from the US government.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 02:56 PM (GbPPJ)
Hoover-era FBI demanded to vet any movie or TV show that featured his boys. I doubt that's changed any.
So rate that as 'spoiler warning', not 'conspiracy theory'
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 08, 2022 03:47 PM (eeRB6)
SCIENCE!
Posted by: ShainS -- They are Child Predators, not Groomers at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (6jQ9h)
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They also probably have parents who are pushing it on them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:47 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 08, 2022 03:47 PM (OssQ4)
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 08, 2022 03:47 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: Lady in Black
"You big dunny!"
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:48 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM
Is that what the kids call it these days?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2022 03:48 PM (RkC6l)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 08, 2022 03:44 PM
Definitely not El Macho.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2022 03:46 PM (RkC6l)
Will Smith is going to play my CZ P-07 with comp and red dot?
Oh...some other El Macho. Nevermind.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 08, 2022 03:48 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 08, 2022 03:48 PM (towrt)
Posted by: Y5 at April 08, 2022 03:48 PM (KrdbI)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at April 08, 2022 03:48 PM (aJQIl)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at April 08, 2022 03:49 PM (Dr/bt)
Posted by: Mr. Fabulist at April 08, 2022 03:49 PM (1DlmY)
http://bitly.ws/q9vW
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 08, 2022 03:38 PM (sWM8x)
We look forward to fighting to the last American!
Posted by: WEF thot PM Sanna Marin at April 08, 2022 03:50 PM (h5TKJ)
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What's funny is that there's no way he'll ever look at that Oscar and not remember this embarrassing episode. It's a tainted Oscar!
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 08, 2022 03:50 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars
"Were gonna need some more FBI guys, I guess" is one of my favorite lines from that movie.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 08, 2022 03:50 PM (SK57M)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at April 08, 2022 03:50 PM (aJQIl)
They also probably have parents who are pushing it on them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:47 PM (LvTSG)
The vegan cat example. When someone says their cat is vegan, you know full well the cat's not making that decision.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 03:50 PM (GbPPJ)
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 08, 2022 03:50 PM (sVtYq)
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In his large mansion.
Poor baby.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:50 PM (LvTSG)
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Psacki's statement yesterday was ominous. I'm telling you, the DOJ is going to start prosecuting parents who oppose tranny treatments to their children. Civil rights violation or something along those lines.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 08, 2022 03:51 PM (sWM8x)
"Well, it worked, didn't it?" -- as Harry Reid would say
These people are scumbags
Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2022 03:33 PM
The dims got exactly what they wanted: their conservative persecution, errr, "domestic terrorism" bill out of committee.
https://is.gd/a3PhHk
Posted by: Bert G at April 08, 2022 03:51 PM (7RAbc)
SCIENCE!
I don't know what the suicide rates are for depression and anxiety, but there was a suicide organization that did a study on transgender suicide ~8 years ago(before the trans push began) and they found that no matter where a trans person is within the journey (e.g. pre or post op, have told no one/close friends/completely out), the suicide rate is over 40%. IIRC, it was the highest (42ish %) for those who have had the surgery and are completely out -- that is, when they should be feeling like they have finally become the person they were meant to be.
That is f#cked up, and no one should be going out of their way to put a person, especially children, into that lifestyle.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2022 03:51 PM (MmndN)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2022 03:25 PM (KZzsI)
There's a way of getting around that.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2022 03:51 PM (Qhnrt)
They also probably have parents who are pushing it on them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:47 PM (LvTSG)
The vegan cat example. When someone says their cat is vegan, you know full well the cat's not making that decision.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at April 08, 2022 03:50 PM (GbPPJ)
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https://tinyurl.com/yckadfue
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:51 PM (LvTSG)
At least we have that FBI documentary Die Hard...
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 08, 2022 03:51 PM (n+4am)
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 08, 2022 03:52 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: wth at April 08, 2022 03:52 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Sharkman at April 08, 2022 03:50 PM (SK57M)
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That and when Deputy Chief Robinson learns that the FBI has arrived and starts straightening his tie and SGT Powell sarcastically says, "Want a breath mint?"
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 08, 2022 03:52 PM (YFU8M)
Posted by: Joe XiDen
Well, at least I never slapped a comedian!
Posted by: Roman Polanski, Hero of Hollywood at April 08, 2022 03:52 PM (OssQ4)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter
Yeah, and don't mention how the Firm was always behind e'rrything, because, whew, I used to think that was dumb.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 08, 2022 03:52 PM (p6Md5)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
"This is Agent Johnson... no, the other one."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:53 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 08, 2022 03:52 PM (YFU8M)
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Robinson is the worst character in the entire franchise and I hate every second he's on screen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:53 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Y5 at April 08, 2022 03:54 PM (KrdbI)
Posted by: Y5 at April 08, 2022 03:54 PM (KrdbI)
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Other guys who think his wife is hot.
I mean...ew.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:54 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Joe XiDen
It shouldn't even be allowed any more. No more than using Wikipedia as evidence. Less, even.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 08, 2022 03:54 PM (OssQ4)
They are interesting but with what I've learned about the FBI over the last 12-14 years all the cases that feature some fancy FBI evidence I wonder "hmm, was that real or were the FIBs inventing evidence" Were I to be on a jury on a case that included FBI evidence I'd have to discount it, only way I'd vote to convict is if the FBI shit led to a confession or other evidence free of their taint.
Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at April 08, 2022 03:55 PM (3cGpq)
Wait a second, are you suggesting that folks like the ma'ammal who blew up at a minimum-wager in Game Stop might not be mentally stable?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 08, 2022 03:55 PM (KFhLj)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 08, 2022 03:55 PM (lgeFv)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 08, 2022 03:55 PM (lz5hY)
Posted by: Greyman27 at April 08, 2022 03:55 PM (RKLPC)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 08, 2022 03:56 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2022 03:56 PM (ZLI7S)
I bring this up to ask, half-jokingly, if there is a "bunny boiler" subgenre of the romance novel genre?
/I am aware of the Fatal Attraction reference
Posted by: ShainS -- They are Child Predators, not Groomers at April 08, 2022 03:56 PM (6jQ9h)
Posted by: Y5 at April 08, 2022 03:56 PM (KrdbI)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 08, 2022 03:52 PM (YFU8M)
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Robinson is the worst character in the entire franchise and I hate every second he's on screen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
The late, great, Paul Gleason! Played some memorable heels.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at April 08, 2022 03:56 PM (3FiQa)
Expect federal DAs to double down on charging offenses in order to avoid trials.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2022 03:56 PM (Iq9dF)
The FBI has most all of the following covered:
Proverbs 6:16-19 (NIV) 16 There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
Posted by: Coki at April 08, 2022 03:56 PM (Bg/TD)
Posted by: REDACTED at April 08, 2022
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From what I hear, unicorns don't take well to saddle and bridle. Watch out. After all, if you've got a switchblade on your forehead, you'll be inclined to use it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 08, 2022 03:57 PM (txdEq)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa
You'd be surprised how many big blue city bosses are as incompetent as Robinson. Truly.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:57 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at April 08, 2022 03:48 PM
Gru: "El Macho was gone too soon. He died in the most macho way possible: riding a shark with 250 pounds of dynamite strapped to his chest into the mouth of an active volcano! It was glorious."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2022 03:57 PM (RkC6l)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa
You'd be surprised how many big blue city bosses are as incompetent as Robinson. Truly.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 08, 2022 03:57 PM (bkUtD)
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I would be surprised otherwise. Doesn't make for compelling drama in this instance, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at April 08, 2022 03:58 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: ace
Barely an inconvenience.
Posted by: Jorge Soros at April 08, 2022 03:58 PM (FhXTo)
There's other reasons not be near unicorns:
https://bit.ly/3DW3jkr
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at April 08, 2022 04:01 PM (SchxB)
Posted by: Minuteman at April 08, 2022 05:31 PM (LaNzR)
Whitmer remanded to custody?
"Better luck next time."
Henceforth to be known as "Governor Red Chief."
Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 08, 2022 05:34 PM (videA)
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