Ukranian City of Kharkiv Decimated by Russian Terror-Bombing; <i>Transgenders Hardest Hit</i>

Ukranian City of Kharkiv Decimated by Russian Terror-Bombing; Transgenders Hardest Hit

#UPDATE: Major explosion reported at an airbase near Kharkiv, possible ammunition depot hit pic.twitter.com/OdqTkaQvy9
— ELINT News (@ELINTNews) March 1, 2022

Jesus.#Kharkiv is being pummelled by #Russia tonight — these are MRLs loaded with cluster munitions. Sheer terror & totally indiscriminate.

You are watching a war crime, here:

pic.twitter.com/rMtDzaOVM2
— Charles Lister (@Charles_Lister) March 1, 2022

So, about those transgenders being hardest hit.

I wasn't just doing a snarky headline.

Transgender acceptance in Ukraine is not widespread, and changing legal documents to match gender requires a long process with psychiatric examinations. CBS News spoke with one woman in Kyiv who is now battling a "war within a war" amid Russia's invasion https://t.co/DJ6vFwmLuR pic.twitter.com/7Qp4eTCGMt
— CBS News (@CBSNews) March 1, 2022

For years, transgender people in Ukraine who wanted to be legally recognized had a long list of steps they had to go through to do so. According to Human Rights Watch, the government mandated that transgender people undergo extensive psychiatric observation and under gender reassignment surgery to get legal documents that aligned with their gender.
Legislation was introduced in 2017 to lessen the process, but still would require that transgender Ukrainians undergo outpatient psychiatric examinations. There is no indication that legislation was ever implemented.
"I don't want to go through that. This is like, humiliating for the world," [Zi] Faámelu said. "...I decided to keep my passport, keep male in my passport, and now I cannot leave this country."

So, media, am I supposed to take the Russian attack on Ukraine seriously, or not?

Is the attack on Ukraine a serious matter, or is it just yet another front for you to wage culture war on your domestic enemies?

That's why people are so resistant to waving their little plastic American flags for Ukraine: It's because we know this all a sham, because the whole "Support Ukraine" propaganda campaign by the left is really just cover for the real campaign, which is "Destroy American Conservatives."

Here’s @LeeSmithDC restating something I’ve said for years—Democrats don’t have foreign enemies; they have foreigners who remind them of domestic enemies. pic.twitter.com/fkKdAbCkII
— David Reaboi, Late Republic Nonsense (@davereaboi) March 1, 2022

Tucker Carlson's whole segment is worth viewing, but I've cued it up to the most important part. Lead RussiaGate Hoaxer, Senator Mark Warner,* makes it clear that he's keenly interested in using the Russian attack on Ukraine as a pretext for -- what else? -- deplatforming and censoring his political enemies and taking away their right to speak and criticize Democrats.

That's all they ever want.

Again, this is what accounts for 90% of the resistance to waving the little plastic American flags.

Note that Mark Warner was also a lead Pressure-Bringer to big tech to censor conservatives.

FaceBook found that the Russian ads placed before the 2016 election were 1, only a small ad buy, 2, in service of a variety of different political causes, on the left and right, and 3, economically motivated, not politically motivated.

Mark Warner sent his people out there to convince them otherwise. FaceBook folded, and then began its crackdown on free speech.

And he's doing it all again. He's again using government pressure to force media corporations to censor his political enemies.

And I'm supposed to wave my little plastic American flag as I worry about Ukraine.

Do I worry about the authoritarian tyrants at Ukraine's door? Yes.

But I worry about the authoritarian tyrants at my own door first.

The left used to warn that cheerleading for the National Security State would just empower them to come after the citizenry's more inconvenient human rights. We ignored them -- to our considerable detriment.

I think the January 6 political prisoners, serving four year jail terms for trespassing, curse our ignoring that danger.

We are not ignoring that any longer. They are coming after us again.

Isn't it strange how in every single crisis, the Corporate-Political-Security Complex decides that the solution must be the censorship and increasing decitizenization of the American right?

The left never moves its focus away from the real war, the war on its domestic enemies.

I have chosen to mirror their tactics. I too will only wage war on my domestic enemies.

And like the left, I will not be diverted by false foreign enemies.

Posted by: Ace at 02:23 PM

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1 Ill fitting clothes
I blend in the crowd,
Fingers so clumsy
Voice too loud.

But I'm one.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 01, 2022 02:25 PM (YFAIE)

2 Putin: "Ukraine? Ha ha ha ha ha. It is now My-kraine."

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 01, 2022 02:25 PM (N39Ws)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)

4 Gosh, I hope that wasn't a green car.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 01, 2022 02:26 PM (ppL7t)

5
Corgis called.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 01, 2022 02:26 PM (/U27+)

6 Go fuk yourselves, rooskies.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at March 01, 2022 02:26 PM (0ZNXY)

7 Women and minorities are going to be pissed when they realized that someone got hit harder than they did.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:26 PM (LvTSG)

8
In Russia, thermobaric bomb = precision weapon.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (/U27+)

9 Transgender acceptance in Ukraine is not widespread, and changing legal documents to match gender requires a long process with psychiatric examinations. CBS News spoke with one woman in Kyiv who is now battling a "war within a war" amid Russia's invasion
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I for one am thrilled to see CBS focusing on the issues that matter most to Americans.

Good grief.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (DU+/6)

10 Because that's what's important here. Mental deviants and how they feelz.

FUCK this world is going to shit.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

11 Putin: "Ukraine? Ha ha ha ha ha. It is now My-kraine."
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 01, 2022 02:25 PM (N39Ws)
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Themkraine? Xirkraine?

Posted by: jhawk90 at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (bNveM)

12 Sorry Journalists, but when you declare EVERY Male between 18 and 60 a COMBATANT and tell them to pick up arms by force of Law?

CREATING the conditions whereby the Geneva Convention is no longer in effect? As they are UNUNIFORMED COMBATANTS?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The West is now talking about creating an insurgency, which once more, throws Geneva right out the F'n Window.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (oHd/0)

13 Yes I am sure the transgenders are more concerned with their sex identity than the heavy shelling, murder and destruction going on in Ukraine.

We are not being lead by serious people or thinkers.

Posted by: Czech Chick at March 01, 2022 02:28 PM (haWye)

14 LITERALLY HITLER

Posted by: Moron Rubie - Stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure in cop glasses at March 01, 2022 02:28 PM (cUuEU)

15 Isn't it strange how in every single crisis, the Corporate-Political-Security Complex decides that the solution must be the censorship and increasing depersonization of the American right?

The left never moves its focus away from the real war, the war on its domestic enemies.
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But of course. Until the last citizen bends the knee and kisses the ring and becomes an enthusiastic subject, they will not be satisfied.

Only then can they begin going after subjects who aren't on board enough.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 02:28 PM (DU+/6)

16
Wait, where the doll??

You know, The Doll.

The "Doll" that is always laying amongst the rubble in the fake "war correspondent's" path as he walks the scene.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (MHqAN)

17 Russia Attacks Ukraine...Transgenders, Minorities Hardest Hit

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (dTzB3)

18 Just to show how seriously Putin is taking the peace negotiations in Belarus, the chief Russian negotiator is a former Minister of Culture. Not a diplomat or a military person.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (I2/tG)

19 I fully support the mindless, knee-jerk support for (insert cause here). Those that don't fully support (insert cause here) are obviously anti-American bigots, who should lose their jobs, access to the financial system, and any other benefits of modern American society and citizenship.

Posted by: Dem NPC at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (JCZqz)

20 The left used to warn that cheerleading for the National Security State would just empower them to come after the citizenry's more inconvenient human rights. We ignored them -- to our considerable detriment.

Any "complaints" voiced by leftists are always just a roadmap to their future plans. Every time.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (bT14l)

21 Putin is upping the ante. He thought rolling in would cause Ukraine to roll over.

That didn't work, so, he's resorting to blunt indiscriminate force.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (5pTK/)

22 Hey Lister, it's not a war crime if you win.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (axyOa)

23 9 I for one am thrilled to see CBS focusing on the issues that matter most to Americans.

Good grief.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (DU+/6)

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It's almost like the news media has given up on trying to inform the wide public of the narrative of the day and are, instead, just captured by the fringiest of the left, placating their every whim with every story.

Almost.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (LvTSG)

24 Must keel møøse and squirrel.

Posted by: V. Putin at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (QQ6wR)

25

It's not a real bullshit Media Contrived "war" until we see The Doll" in the rubble.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (MHqAN)

26 It's not Crossdresser Monf in the Ukraine. Sorry. Y'all just gonna have to wait your turn like the blacks and vagina peeps.

Posted by: Moron Rubie - Stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure in cop glasses at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (cUuEU)

27 Good afternoon everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (Msys3)

28 Gosh, I hope that wasn't a green car.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 01, 2022 02:26 PM

The fire appears to have gone out, so probably not.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (RkC6l)

29
Swalwell and Pelosi would have no trouble doing the same to us if they could gather us together.

Posted by: Auspex at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (Xo3T0)

30 Russia Attacks Ukraine...Transgenders, Minorities Hardest Hit

Imagine the headlines when Putin nukes us!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (I2/tG)

31 22 Hey Lister, it's not a war crime if you win.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (axyOa)

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The firebombing of Japanese cities never led to war crimes trials.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (LvTSG)

32 LGBTQ-kraine

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (6FeV1)

33 I will make a prediction for the aftermath of the Ukrainian war, presuming Putin is still alive and in charge: Russia will be cut off from the West except, absurdly, fossil fuel exports to the EU, and as a result, Russia will have to team up with China and send all their exports to China in exchange for factory products forming a authoritarian prosperity sphere.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (yQpMk)

34 @ELINTNews
#UPDATE: Major explosion reported at an airbase near Kharkiv, possible ammunition depot
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This seems to imply that Russia is going after military targets rather than actually indiscriminately targeting civilians, but they also aren't particularly concerned with collateral damage.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (DU+/6)

35 I have no sympathy for the Ukrainians. They meddled in the election and bear some responsibility for what they have wrought by doing so.

Likewise, I have no trust or confidence in anything anyone in the GOP establishment has to say, especially Mark Warner. Fuck them in general, and Warner in particular.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (UFP5z)

36 An interesting, and short read.

https://tinyurl.com/3hj2texd

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (axyOa)

37 Because that's what's important here. Mental deviants and how they feelz.

FUCK this world is going to shit.
Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

Right? What the hell already.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (Ez6QX)

38 11 Putin: "Ukraine? Ha ha ha ha ha. It is now My-kraine."
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 01, 2022 02:25 PM (N39Ws)
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Themkraine? Xirkraine?
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (bNveM)

If you're here, and we're here, doesn't that make it Ourkraine?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 01, 2022 02:31 PM (cupoy)

39 Wait, where the doll??

You know, The Doll.

The "Doll" that is always laying amongst the rubble in the fake "war correspondent's" path as he walks the scene.
Posted by: Soothsayer,

I was looking for a muddy teddy bear but we'll allow it.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 01, 2022 02:31 PM (Msys3)

40 The "Doll" that is always laying amongst the rubble in the fake "war correspondent's" path as he walks the scene.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (MHqAN)
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They probably left it in Ottawa...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 01, 2022 02:31 PM (YIVH2)

41 "I have chosen to mirror their tactics. I too will only wage war on my domestic enemies.

And like the left, I will not be diverted by false foreign enemies."

Good. Really, the left is working WITH most of those supposed foreign enemies. But two can play at that game too.

By the way, the fact we're focusing on the streets and not the allegedly bombed out buildings is a sure sign the Russians are taking more care than America ever did.

Posted by: trev006 at March 01, 2022 02:32 PM (Eqkqm)

42 Gonna take a lot of work to get the trolleys running again.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 01, 2022 02:32 PM (LQjWA)

43 35 I have no sympathy for the Ukrainians. They meddled in the election and bear some responsibility for what they have wrought by doing so.

Likewise, I have no trust or confidence in anything anyone in the GOP establishment has to say, especially Mark Warner. Fuck them in general, and Warner in particular.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (UFP5z)

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The Ukrainian people were overthrown in 2014. They were crawling back when they elected their new president in 2019. I don't think I'd lay this at the feet of the Ukrainian people, but the Western governments that fomented the color revolution in 2014 and then used the place as their personal piggy bank for nearly a decade until they crashed American energy production to the point where Putin had the extra cash to fund some foreign adventurism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:32 PM (LvTSG)

44 "War crime" gets thrown around way too much. Ya know Internet People, some things are just War. War is ugly and hurts people.

Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 02:32 PM (BJKQV)

45 Giving new meaning to Mannstein's back hand blow at Kharkov.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at March 01, 2022 02:32 PM (vN+oL)

46 CREATING the conditions whereby the Geneva Convention is no longer in effect? As they are UNUNIFORMED COMBATANTS?

I believe that an identifying armband is enough to be uniformed under the Geneva Convention.

Narodnya Voina - People's War.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2022 02:32 PM (I2/tG)

47 as soon as the dims zero in on that Ukraine is not gonna stop the red wave, they and their MSM allies will move onto some other overblown crisis

riots over Kentaji not being confirmed by a voice vote

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2022 02:32 PM (us2H3)

48
Alternate post title:

We Haven't Seen This Much Destruction Since, ...checks notes..., Two Months Ago In Kentucky From Tornadoes. Never Mind.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:32 PM (MHqAN)

49 It doesn't seem there's a single serious person working in any newsroom anywhere.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (eGTCV)

50 I wonder if the CBS style sheet was used for that piece of idiocy or if the people writing that crap are so brainwashed, it's become second nature?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (5pTK/)

51 "Guys, we have to do a Ukraine story but we have to make it the right kind."

"Ooh! Found a transgender. I'll say she's waging a war within a war!"

"PULITZER PRIZE MATERIAL!"

That being said, are any reporter types aware at how accepting Russia is of LGBTOMGWTFBBQ folks? Or is that not important?

Posted by: NR Pax at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (4olE8)

52 Wait, where the doll??

You know, The Doll.

The "Doll" that is always laying amongst the rubble in the fake "war correspondent's" path as he walks the scene.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (MHqAN)

Green Helmet Guy has it down just outside of Israel... you know, where rockets are flying daily but it does not make the news at all?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (oHd/0)

53 47 as soon as the dims zero in on that Ukraine is not gonna stop the red wave, they and their MSM allies will move onto some other overblown crisis

riots over Kentaji not being confirmed by a voice vote
Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2022 02:32 PM (us2H3)

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It is going to be nothing but stray voltage to make the world seem in chaos which is supposed to...help?...the party currently in power remain in control.

These people are really stupid, by the way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (LvTSG)

54 I hope the staff remembered to take the Rainbow flag when they abandoned the American embassy

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (dTzB3)

55 "War crime" gets thrown around way too much.

Firing cluster bombs into residential neighborhoods generally counts.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (I2/tG)

56 And all because the same exact Democrats that meddled in our election process meddled in the Ukrainian election process.

Posted by: Moron Rubie - Stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure in cop glasses at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (cUuEU)

57 CBS is worried about transgender acceptance in the Ukraine?

Seriously, WTF is wrong with these people?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (k4dH2)

58 39 Wait, where the doll??

You know, The Doll.

The "Doll" that is always laying amongst the rubble in the fake "war correspondent's" path as he walks the scene.
Posted by: Soothsayer,

I was looking for a muddy teddy bear but we'll allow it.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 01, 2022 02:31 PM (Msys3)

The doll was rescued by the Ghost of Kiev and now is sitting right next to him/her/xer/xim/it while Ghost literally decimates the whole Russian Air Force. Next up, dropping bombs directly on the Kremlin.

Posted by: Thrawn at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (Rl7KJ)

59 The left never lets any opportunity pass by to use the event to attack Americans. They are the true enemy.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (JLzjM)

60 I'd like to find out how effective transgenders are when fired out of a cannon. Would they be effective for anti aircraft use?
I suspect Flannel Daddy will not take this one on, so it's up to the Ukrainians.

Posted by: Midwest Battlefield Research Institute at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (jNXuK)

61 In Russia, thermobaric bomb = precision weapon.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (/U27+)

i'm confused. is the outcry because they're using them in town where civilians are located? maybe i'm an idiot, but this is a war and it IS the russians, i'm shocked anyone expects them to follow the geneva conventions as anything other than a check list...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (8D42x)

62 I wonder if the CBS style sheet was used for that piece of idiocy or if the people writing that crap are so brainwashed, it's become second nature?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (5pTK/)

Yes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (Tx2c6)

63 If the Russian troops identified as BLM everything would be okay, wouldn't it?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (eGTCV)

64 It seems like the USA likes to play dress-up doll with every country brought under our sway.

We like to get LGBTQ* acceptance started and drag queen story time and we cultivate that crap.

Posted by: Axeman at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (OaZlZ)

65 We have turned the entire Third Karen Army from attacking people that don't wear masks or get the jab to attacking any and all people that do not support Pedo Joey 110%. There will be a terrible price paid by these brave, crazy sociopaths that the country will not soon forget.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (iDcra)

66 Seriously, WTF is wrong with these people?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (k4dH2)
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They weren't hugged enough as a child.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (YIVH2)

67 I hope they didn't get the bullet train.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (yical)

68 See wingers! Putin is bad! And Trump once said that Putin wasn't bad, so you must all take our side and agree that the orange man is bad and can never be president again and should go to jail and he has a stinky butt!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (qnVBz)

69 Likewise, I have no trust or confidence in anything anyone in the GOP establishment has to say, especially Mark Warner. Fuck them in general, and Warner in particular.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (UFP5z)

Mark Warner is a Democrat Senator from Virginia. Big buds with Hillary and Terry McCauliffe.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (trdmm)

70 Internet People really think that Putin cares if they call his actions a "War Crime." Just like they think he cares if this invasion ruins his reputation "in the world." They also seem to think that countries don't do business with other countries if they believe that the leaders are big meanies.

These people are out of touch with reality and know absolutely nothing about history.

Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (BJKQV)

71 The Ukrainian people were overthrown in 2014. They were crawling back when they elected their new president in 2019. I don't think I'd lay this at the feet of the Ukrainian people, but the Western governments that fomented the color revolution in 2014 and then used the place as their personal piggy bank for nearly a decade until they crashed American energy production to the point where Putin had the extra cash to fund some foreign adventurism.
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Well said James. Very accurate.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (LQjWA)

72 44 "War crime" gets thrown around way too much. Ya know Internet People, some things are just War. War is ugly and hurts people.
Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 02:32 PM (BJKQV)

General Sherman: "Indeed".

Posted by: Thrawn at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (Rl7KJ)

73 Andy Card mansplaining on how Shrub is really smart

omg, take me now

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2022 02:35 PM (us2H3)

74 Blyat Lives Matter

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 01, 2022 02:35 PM (6FeV1)

75 I have no sympathy for the Ukrainians. They meddled in the election and bear some responsibility for what they have wrought by doing so.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (UFP5z)

Eh. The average Ukrainian has no more control over their government than you do. I hope they survive, and take advantage of relative Russian generosity, but I won't lose sleep if they decide to die for the cause. Having the Russians explode the myth of their ineptitude will be worthwhile.

Posted by: trev006 at March 01, 2022 02:35 PM (Eqkqm)

76 Hey Lister, it's not a war crime if you win.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (axyOa)

Well...except for Israel.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2022 02:35 PM (XIJ/X)

77 It's Iran vs Iraq 2.0. Hopefully they both are destroyed.

Posted by: Regular joe at March 01, 2022 02:35 PM (nnp+f)

78 #TrumpHitler > #BushHitler > #PutinHitler

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 01, 2022 02:35 PM (NOY52)

79 OMG they are using thermobaric weapons! War crimes!

Umm, the US uses them too. We used them in Afghanistan and Iraq.

That's not a defense of Russia just a note on how stupid the media is and propaganda.

Posted by: blaster at March 01, 2022 02:36 PM (9otr5)

80 So this is a tranny liberation war now? I'm so confused.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 01, 2022 02:36 PM (II3Gr)

81
In Russia, thermobaric bomb = precision weapon.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (/U27+)

Hey, Arc Light strikes from B-52s are EXTREMELY accurate. The bombs always hit the ground.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 01, 2022 02:36 PM (n+4am)

82 Fwiw the Charles lister guy does not seem to be expert in anything other than democrats

Posted by: Y5 at March 01, 2022 02:36 PM (Lgohd)

83 They weren't hugged enough as a child.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (YIVH2)

Or hugged too much, by the wrong sorts of people

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 01, 2022 02:36 PM (6FeV1)

84 I had no idea that Ukrainian trans people were being disproportionately affected and were unable to turn in their gender reassignment paperwork to government offices. My God. My God. We gotta get in there. No fly zone, troops, drones, missiles. All out warfare. This monster Putin must be stopped at all costs!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (qnVBz)

85 63 If the Russian troops identified as BLM everything would be okay, wouldn't it?
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Yeah, the Russkies should just paint rainbow flags on all their tanks, announce that they are in Ukraine to help the Ukrainians become more accepting of transgenders, and the twatter-verse and FB and the UN would all applaud and love them again!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (k4dH2)

86 History won't be reported correctly because Ukraine doesn't respect the transgendered enough.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (Zz0t1)

87 Blyat Lives Matter
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 01, 2022 02:35 PM

*golf clap*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (RkC6l)

88 I find it interesting that every news item has a twist to racial or sexual angles. If you wonder why so many moderates are running to the right, here is your answer.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (JLzjM)

89 the marble mouth Bushies are out in force

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (us2H3)

90 The Ukrainian people were overthrown in 2014. They were crawling back when they elected their new president in 2019. I don't think I'd lay this at the feet of the Ukrainian people, but the Western governments that fomented the color revolution in 2014 and then used the place as their personal piggy bank for nearly a decade until they crashed American energy production to the point where Putin had the extra cash to fund some foreign adventurism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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The Green New Deal is The Bomb!

Posted by: 2009Refugee at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (e2C66)

91 If it wasn't for the Ukrainian flags in the first pic I would have assumed Minneapolis or Kenosha...

Posted by: H Badger at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (n/0Nw)

92 66 They weren't hugged enough as a child.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 01, 2022 02:34 PM (YIVH2)

Nah. They got the wrong kinds of hugs.

Posted by: NR Pax at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (4olE8)

93 Looks like Minneapolis after a Black Lives Matter riot

Posted by: cool breeze at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (UGKMd)

94 Transgender acceptance in Ukraine is not widespread, and changing legal documents to match gender requires a long process with psychiatric examinations.
____________

I'm liking Ukraine more and more.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (YqDXo)

95 Remains to be seen, but those tweets are probably extremely misleading. Kharkov is not a small town. There have been a few rocket launches, or salvoes of MLRS-type systems.

Even until today, in the fairly rare instances of any kind of damage to civilian infrastructure from Russian forces (and not always clear that it wasn't Uke-caused), I have seen this fanatical enthusiasm to point out "playground!" or "kindergarten!!" (no children present, nobody even injured, unguided systems so almost surely "misses" that hit these locations).

"Baby milk factories!" cannot be far behind.

Oh - and Zelensky really beclowned himself with a tweet about Babi Yar. He claims a Russian munition hit there (I assume *near* there, don't think the actual exact area is built-up or populated) and 5 were killed. He invokes "never again!". I see - Russia's plan here is to repeat the holocaust against Jews in Ukraine. Or something.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (OTzUX)

96 It's almost like the news media has given up on trying to inform the wide public of the narrative of the day and are, instead, just captured by the fringiest of the left, placating their every whim with every story.

Almost.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Someone made that point about the night show comics. Essentially all of them are competing for the small slice of dedicated leftist audience left after the mass tv market disappeared. Also explains CNN's spiral downward as they were trying to be MSNBC. So people like Johnny Carson are gone because we have no overarching unifying culture anymore. Same as academic journals spiraling into irrelevancy for the broader culture and so on.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 02:38 PM (Iq9dF)

97 It has to be a bitch being a tranny in a country overflowing with hot women

Posted by: Y5 at March 01, 2022 02:38 PM (Lgohd)

98 I believe that an identifying armband is enough to be uniformed under the Geneva Convention.
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Yes, even a brassard counts as a uniform although there are other factors like IIRC being under command of a higher authority that abides by the Conventions themselves [that didn't apply to e.g. al Qaeda].

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 01, 2022 02:38 PM (UHVv4)

99 CBS is worried about transgender acceptance in the Ukraine?
Seriously, WTF is wrong with these people?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (k4dH2)
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The Narrative. They must push The Narrative no matter what. Here are some components:
1. Sexual deviancy == good (absolute)
2. Russia == bad (absolute)
3. American leftist ideology == good (absolute)
4. Ukraine == good (transactional, non-absolute)

So there are all of the components. "Ukraine, which is good (today) has been invaded by Russia, which is bad (always) and so we need to cover it in such a way that it emphasizes our American leftist ideology because it is good (always) and so we can pick a sexual deviancy (always good) angle to frame the story."

And now you have trangender acceptance in the Ukraine - which was already not good enough - being made harder because of Russia. You could probably write these stories algorithmically and just have an intern fill in the names after finding something they can use to plug in. For I know, this is what they do. It would be easy enough.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 02:38 PM (DU+/6)

100 55 "War crime" gets thrown around way too much.

Firing cluster bombs into residential neighborhoods generally counts.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (I2/tG)

Hmmmm...

Posted by: WW2 Bomber Pilot at March 01, 2022 02:38 PM (oHd/0)

101 Serious question: Has anyone even attempted to explain why defending Ukraine is important to or even relevant to the United States' interests? They are not part of NATO (puke). We have no formal treaty or agreement with Ukraine that requires us to act in their defense, do we? To be sure, I'm aware that they foolishly trusted us when we pressured them to give up their nukes. That whole agreement seems wishy-washy and not a real treaty or obligation. Plus, it was negotiated before Ukraine fucked us over by trying to help remove a sitting US president (Trump). So I say fuck them.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 01, 2022 02:39 PM (iFTx/)

102
Alternate post title:

Look, The Neocons Are Back!

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:39 PM (MHqAN)

103 "12 Sorry Journalists, but when you declare EVERY Male between 18 and 60 a COMBATANT and tell them to pick up arms by force of Law?

CREATING the conditions whereby the Geneva Convention is no longer in effect? As they are UNUNIFORMED COMBATANTS?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The West is now talking about creating an insurgency, which once more, throws Geneva right out the F'n Window.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (oHd/0) "

but the whole idea is to kill off every person who might stand up for liberty, or their rights ... just like sending the children of American deplorables off to be killed by demonrat allies in faraway lands.
basically what the Brits did to themselves in WW 1.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (NDCP0) at March 01, 2022 02:39 PM (NDCP0)

104 Gee, the top picture looks like one of those "mostly peaceful" demonstrations.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 01, 2022 02:39 PM (PiwSw)

105 ...I don't think I'd lay this at the feet of the Ukrainian people, but the Western governments...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:32 PM (LvTSG)

Exactly.

The West is feckless and cowardly, but also craven, and that is what drove our policy in Ukraine.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2022 02:40 PM (XIJ/X)

106 Time to revisit North Vietnam? North Korea?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at March 01, 2022 02:40 PM (n/szn)

107 Yeah, the Russkies should just paint rainbow flags on all their tanks, announce that they are in Ukraine to help the Ukrainians become more accepting of transgenders, and the twatter-verse and FB and the UN would all applaud and love them again!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (k4dH2)

Well, they are there to fight Nazis and Fascists...

Posted by: Young AntiFa guy looking confused at March 01, 2022 02:40 PM (oHd/0)

108 Kiev looks like Seattle or Portland in summer of 2020. So mostly peaceful invasion then?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 01, 2022 02:40 PM (iDcra)

109 If Putin would've just told his troops to don the pAntifa flag, masks and hoodies, all would be fine.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)

110 In my early military career I heard the story that we dropped thermobarics near Iraqi troops followed by a leaflet drop that said "We drop that on your heads tomorrow unless you surrender"

That is why they surrendered by the 10s of thousands. Not sure if it is true or not. But it makes a good story.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 02:40 PM (qnVBz)

111
Never forget this is all Trump's fault. You will be reminded at tonight's SOTU.

Posted by: Auspex at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (Xo3T0)

112 Is Colonel Bearclaw shielding civilians with his fat ass?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (eGTCV)

113 It is funny that the media has gotten to their "boy that cried wolf" moment and do not even know it.

I have no hint as to what the truth is in this mess but I do know I do not believe what the media says.

Posted by: Y5 at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (Lgohd)

114 Lister... Lister... that name sounds familiar.

Posted by: Rimmer at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (jNXuK)

115 I'm so old I remember when David Igantius of the Washington Post was acting as a stenographer for the FBI writing stories based on leaks about a bogus Russia collusion hoax and Sen. Mark Warner was caught secretly communication with Putin BFF Oleg Deripaska while he was hearing evidence about the same Russia collusion hoax.

I don't think I'll be letting them tell me what to think or say.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (ZLI7S)

116 once I used a thermobaric bong once

I immediately went out and bought a quadrphonic stereo

it was awesome

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (us2H3)

117 Oh. Cluster munitions are war crimes too?

Boy I hope the US never used them.

Checks notes...oh.

Posted by: blaster at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (9otr5)

118 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:32 PM

It's no different than us being responsible for what happened as the result of electing of every shit stain politician between Regan and Trump. Collectively, we bear some responsibility for what happened, and we're getting what we deserve good and hard.

Nothing is going to change until government(s) are held accountable, starting with their 'elected' leaders.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (UFP5z)

119 "Guys, we have to do a Ukraine story but we have to make it the right kind."

Posted by: NR Pax at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (4olE8 )

See also: black refugees not being allowed out of the country due to racist border countries.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (Ez6QX)

120 Wouldn't have happened on Trump's watch

Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (5Pk7W)

121 105 Exactly.

The West is feckless and cowardly, but also craven, and that is what drove our policy in Ukraine.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2022 02:40 PM (XIJ/X)

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So, Trump, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (LvTSG)

122 Has anybody heard from Cpl Klinger and get his take on all this?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (dKiJG)

123 CBS is on to something. I can only hope that Biden spends a good 7-10 minutes on gay/transgender issues facing LGBTQ2+ people in both the Ukraine and Russia.

I'm sure it's got something to do with global warming, but sadly, I wear a helmet when I ride my motorcycle. So it's up to the Klain gang to fill me in on that one.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 01, 2022 02:42 PM (wAnMi)

124 Lister... Lister... that name sounds familiar.
Posted by: Rimmer at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (jNXuK)

I'd rather take advice from the Cat.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2022 02:42 PM (yQpMk)

125 Firing cluster bombs into residential neighborhoods generally counts.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2022 02:33 PM (I2/tG)

Hmmmm...
Posted by: WW2 Bomber Pilot at March 01, 2022 02:38 PM (oHd/0)

That's crazy talk.

Posted by: Hamas at March 01, 2022 02:42 PM (PiwSw)

126
Ukraine: I have relationships with women and sex with men!

Russia: I've got news for you. That means you're gay.

/music plays

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:42 PM (MHqAN)

127 So how does this tranny thing work in a war zone where all men 18-60 are now conscripted to fight? Save the women, children and trannies? The media is so deranged, so institutionally sick and morally and intellectually bankrupt that not even parody has room to exist.

Posted by: 7man at March 01, 2022 02:42 PM (qwO6y)

128 I think the January 6 political prisoners, serving four year jail terms for trespassing, curse our ignoring that danger.

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You misspelled "serving 400 year jail terms for trespassing -- out on good behavior in 300.

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 01, 2022 02:42 PM (NOY52)

129 Serious question: Has anyone even attempted to explain why defending Ukraine is important to or even relevant to the United States' interests?

*

Hunter Biden, meth head VP son, was a $10M energy consultant for Burisma.

They won't say it out loud, but I suspect 85% or more of DC has irons in the fire over there.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at March 01, 2022 02:42 PM (mJ4M8)

130 I like how the sodomite is all afraid to go outside.

Putin's invasion is a success!

More please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 01, 2022 02:42 PM (uVDu4)

131 Never forget this is all Trump's fault. You will be reminded at tonight's SOTU.

Posted by: Auspex at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (Xo3T0)

Reason #1028 why I won't be watching.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2022 02:43 PM (Ez6QX)

132 Has anybody heard from Cpl Klinger and get his take on all this?
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (dKiJG)

I think he's more worried about whether the Toledo Mud Hens will have a season or not.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:43 PM (Zz0t1)

133 124 Lister... Lister... that name sounds familiar.
Posted by: Rimmer at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (jNXuK)

KOed by Cassius

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2022 02:43 PM (us2H3)

134 I watched the ammo dump outside Mogadishu blow up. Not nearly as big as this...but then they didn't have much remaining there.
Heh.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2022 02:43 PM (axyOa)

135 Posted by: Elric Blade at March 01, 2022 02:39 PM (iFTx/)

Theory. Most of the Middle East conflicts in the last 21 years, are about Pipeline routes. Look at Syria, and Iraq... even Lebanon... because the ones who control those pipelines, control the FLOW of energy.

Ukraine, oh... look... pipelines.

Posted by: Young AntiFa guy looking confused at March 01, 2022 02:43 PM (oHd/0)

136
Reason #1028 why I won't be watching.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2022 02:43 PM (Ez6QX)

But I thought your hubby was looking to spend some quality time with you while watching?

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:43 PM (Zz0t1)

137 >>...I don't think I'd lay this at the feet of the Ukrainian people, but the Western governments...

I'd throw in corrupt Ukraine politicians but yea.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2022 02:44 PM (ZLI7S)

138 Holy crap, have you people all gone nuts again?
(I am overseas, and see no US media)

This is a repeat of covid, it appears

- The left riles up its viewers to
-attack republicans
- get viewers

and then it gets out of control with the npc's believing all that shit. Then the positive feedback kicks in and everyone has to out-crazy the next guy. Madness.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2022 02:44 PM (EX6K8)

139 Ukraine: I have relationships with women and sex with men!

Russia: I've got news for you. That means you're gay.

/music plays
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:42 PM (MHqAN)

The more you know...

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 01, 2022 02:44 PM (II3Gr)

140 For all the years we've been cheering and declaring the MSM death, they sure the hell are still effective. How the hell did we go from trying to convince a large portion of Democrats during the 70's and 80's Cold War that the Soviet/Russian government was bad and an enemy. Trying to convince the left that Russian government/Putin are our enemy in 2012 only to be told by Barack, "the 80's called and want their foreign policy back" to now Russia/Putin are as evil as the Third Reich and you right-wingers need to stop supporting, working in conjunction with and cheering Russia on? Talk about the "Big Switch". Just like the Republicans did when they took over being the racists and supporting the kkk.

Posted by: JROD at March 01, 2022 02:44 PM (0jZnq)

141 Did Mengele do any sex reassignment surgery?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 01, 2022 02:44 PM (63Dwl)

142 Jen the deep state cum dumpster telling us what's gonna happen

she held out on everyone in Afghanistan

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2022 02:44 PM (us2H3)

143 In related news, Slate has this headline:

"Trump Judges Are Now A Threat To America's National Security"

Something about a judge's ruling concerning a lawsuit filed by several Navy Seals over DOD Wuhan Flu restrictions.

Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2022 02:44 PM (6eRlp)

144 "Firing cluster bombs into residential neighborhoods generally counts."

Some times.

"Residential neighborhoods" being used as the base for military operations enjoy no protection.

In fact, deliberately mingling civilian/non-combatant with military personnel and assets, to gain a military advantage, is the war crime. And one that was literally the "system" of our adversaries in Iraq, thus the hospitals and mosques that occasionally were legitimate targets.

Oh, and "cluster munitions" is another moral signal flare, because that kind of ordnance has been successfully mythologized and demonized - but without getting into that dull topic, note that there is ample evidence of their use against Donbass and Lugansk by Ukrainian forces/elements/whoever's doing the shooting, though mysteriously there is no tsunami of outrage in the west.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2022 02:44 PM (OTzUX)

145 The left used to warn that cheerleading for the National Security State would just empower them to come after the citizenry's more inconvenient human rights. We ignored them -- to our considerable detriment.

This was all inevitable when the Patriot Act was passed. Thanks, GOP.

Posted by: Statistics at March 01, 2022 02:45 PM (OUOZt)

146 Hunter Biden, meth head VP son, was a $10M energy consultant for Burisma.

They won't say it out loud, but I suspect 85% or more of DC has irons in the fire over there.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at March 01, 2022 02:42 PM (mJ4M

The exact same reason we still don't know who Ghislaine Maxwell's clients were.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 01, 2022 02:45 PM (PiwSw)

147 Have you seen pictures of captured Russian soldiers? They look about as scary as our transgendered admiral.

Posted by: Caliban at March 01, 2022 02:45 PM (HgGBT)

148 But how exactly do we, and I mean ordinary conservative American citizens, wage war on the left?

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 01, 2022 02:45 PM (KiBMU)

149 In related news, Slate has this headline:

"Trump Judges Are Now A Threat To America's National Security"

Something about a judge's ruling concerning a lawsuit filed by several Navy Seals over DOD Wuhan Flu restrictions.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2022 02:44 PM (6eRlp)
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I have it on very good authority - no less than the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States - that which president appoints a judge is entirely irrelevant.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 02:45 PM (DU+/6)

150
One thing that's annoying me is the use of the term "cluster bomb" or variants. Every video I've seen so far has been of conventional single warhead weapons. It's just that the Russkies love to shoot a LOT of them at a target.

A cluster munition will spew out a gazillion little grenades that all detonate simultaneously (except for a certain percentage which are on delay, just to be dicks). No big boom, it sounds like firecrackers. Still deadly as hell. The problem with them is that the fuses don't always detonate, so you end up with a shit ton of unexploded live ordnance laying around for puppies and orphans to play with.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 01, 2022 02:45 PM (n+4am)

151 It's the old switcheroo!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 01, 2022 02:45 PM (63Dwl)

152 Never forget this is all Trump's fault. You will be reminded at tonight's SOTU.

*

Yep. Everything that was great and peaceful and wars were ending and peace deals in the middle east were being signed and the country was energy independent, and it was all a cruel setup to f*ck the next president.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at March 01, 2022 02:45 PM (mJ4M8)

153 49 It doesn't seem there's a single serious person working in any newsroom anywhere. Posted by: N.L. Urker

50 I wonder if the CBS style sheet was used for that piece of idiocy or if the people writing that crap are so brainwashed, it's become second nature? Posted by: blake
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There seems to be a linking theme here. Perhaps the link is that journalism departments on campus generally have the lowest admission qualifications for students aside from education colleges.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 02:45 PM (Iq9dF)

154 148 But how exactly do we, and I mean ordinary conservative American citizens, wage war on the left?

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 01, 2022 02:45 PM (KiBMU)

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Fun for your local school board.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (LvTSG)

155 In related news, Slate has this headline:

"Trump Judges Are Now A Threat To America's National Security"

Something about a judge's ruling concerning a lawsuit filed by several Navy Seals over DOD Wuhan Flu restrictions.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2022 02:44 PM (6eRlp)

Slate. HA!

They should change their name to Slab...as in the morgue.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (Zz0t1)

156 "Residential neighborhoods" being used as the base for military operations enjoy no protection.

Tell that to the perpetually whining Palestinians.

Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (i2zoD)

157 I'm liking Ukraine more and more.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (YqDXo)

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I hear you, but someone reminded me last night that Biden, Obama, and Bush are all rooting for Ukraine. When my proclivities line up with the likes of them, I at least need to reconsider the matter.

Posted by: 496 at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (VJsqe)

158 But I thought your hubby was looking to spend some quality time with you while watching?
Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:43 PM (Zz0t1)

No, I said he'll be watching and I'll be doing taxes. I may or may not try to use my feminine wiles to entice him away from the TV. We'll see how I feel.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (Ez6QX)

159 Yeah, firing cluster munitions into a neighborhood would not be a good use, not what they are intended for

Posted by: Y5 at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (Lgohd)

160 Cluster munitions against enemy troops and equipment is one thing.

If (IF) the Russkies are launching them indiscriminately against civilian populations in cities, that is really bad.

I just can't figure out what Putins goal is here if that is what he is doing. Does he want WWIII?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (qnVBz)

161 I have no sympathy for the Ukrainians. They meddled in the election and bear some responsibility for what they have wrought by doing so.
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I feel sorry for the Ukranian people, the government, not so much. The government, and some of the corporations there (like Burisma) are corrupt and have been playing stupid and dangerous games with crooked American politicians (including and especially Joe Biden) for years. Those a-holes deserve whatever they get.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (k4dH2)

162 49 It doesn't seem there's a single serious person working in any newsroom anywhere. Posted by: N.L. Urker

50 I wonder if the CBS style sheet was used for that piece of idiocy or if the people writing that crap are so brainwashed, it's become second nature? Posted by: blake
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Just why the hell are the leftists obsessed by sex, and especially deviant sex?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (YqDXo)

163 Went out, played a little blackjack, and come home a couple hundred up. Turn on the tube and here's this Andy Card fuck telling me Retardo unified NATO and everybody should applaud like trained seals at the SOTU. And I just had to jump start going on the wagon for Lent.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 01, 2022 02:47 PM (lz5hY)

164 ++++
I have it on very good authority - no less than the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States - that which president appoints a judge is entirely irrelevant.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 02:45 PM (DU+/6)

And I have this WONDERFUL ski resort on the outskirts of Lubbock, Texas to sell you.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:47 PM (Zz0t1)

165 A cluster munition will spew out a gazillion little grenades that all detonate simultaneously (except for a certain percentage which are on delay, just to be dicks). No big boom, it sounds like firecrackers. Still deadly as hell. The problem with them is that the fuses don't always detonate, so you end up with a shit ton of unexploded live ordnance laying around for puppies and orphans to play with.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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In the bad old days of the Sov bloc, my AF unit was trained on detection and avoidance of these because a lot of them had nasty time delays on exploding or other nasty tricks.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 02:47 PM (Iq9dF)

166 Is that a true story that african uni students in Ukraine were denied seats on the buses until the whites all got out, and then had to get on "black only" buses?

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 01, 2022 02:47 PM (KiBMU)

167 ...because the ones who control those pipelines, control the FLOW of energy.
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That's what I said!

Posted by: Paul Atreides aka Muad'Dib at March 01, 2022 02:47 PM (UHVv4)

168 I for one am thrilled to see CBS focusing on the issues that matter most to Americans.

Good grief.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (DU+/6)

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BREAKING: John Kerry to Host Comintern Summit on Today's Hottest Topic "War, What is it Bad For? Existential Threats to the Climate, Transgenders, and Pronouns."

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 01, 2022 02:47 PM (NOY52)

169 -----
I hear you, but someone reminded me last night that Biden, Obama, and Bush are all rooting for Ukraine. When my proclivities line up with the likes of them, I at least need to reconsider the matter.
Posted by: 496 at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (VJsqe)

And so is Nazi collaborator George Soros.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at March 01, 2022 02:47 PM (eGTCV)

170 Why isn't President Biden sending body armor to the Ukrainians?!?!?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 01, 2022 02:48 PM (6FeV1)

171 148 But how exactly do we, and I mean ordinary conservative American citizens, wage war on the left?

Posted by: Mr Gaga

The time will come. And you will know. Be ready.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 02:48 PM (qnVBz)

172 I hear you, but someone reminded me last night that Biden, Obama, and Bush are all rooting for Ukraine. When my proclivities line up with the likes of them, I at least need to reconsider the matter.
Posted by: 496 at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (VJsqe)
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Hmm. (Ponders that one.) That is disturbing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2022 02:48 PM (YqDXo)

173
No, I said he'll be watching and I'll be doing taxes. I may or may not try to use my feminine wiles to entice him away from the TV. We'll see how I feel.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (Ez6QX)

A bottle of beer in the cleavage. Works every time.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:48 PM (Zz0t1)

174 This is what you get when the big guy does not get his vig

Posted by: Y5 at March 01, 2022 02:48 PM (Lgohd)

175 "Sorry Journalists, but when you declare EVERY Male between 18 and 60 a COMBATANT and tell them to pick up arms by force of Law?"

They were not declared combatants. They were declared members of the militia. Not the same thing.

We have unregulated militia in the United States. For example, in New York (Military Law, Chapter 36), all men between the ages of 17 and 45 are members of the unorganized militia.

"The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied male residents of the state between the ages of seventeen and forty-five who are not serving in any force of the organized militia or who are not on the state reserve list or the state retired list and who are or who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States,
subject, however, to such exemptions from military duty as are created by the laws of the United States."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 01, 2022 02:48 PM (ppL7t)

176 167 ...because the ones who control those pipelines, control the FLOW of energy.
------------------------
That's what I said!
Posted by: Paul Atreides aka Muad'Dib at March 01, 2022 02:47 PM (UHVv4)

=========

Just blow it up, Paul. Save us the sequels.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:48 PM (LvTSG)

177 Putin's problems remind me of when foreign journalists were allowed to roam around Russia for the first time after the fall of the Soviet Union. That's when we found out that this nuclear superpower we were all afraid of was actually living in 18th century conditions.

Posted by: Caliban at March 01, 2022 02:48 PM (HgGBT)

178 Sundowner going to tell us how Russia is working on
World domination tonight?

Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 01, 2022 02:48 PM (5Pk7W)

179
>>>Milk, now, is "problematic." Fucking milk.

Their is some teeth there. The *last* distinct human trait to develop during our "age of evolution" which ended about 10,000 years ago was lactase persistence. A genetic mutation that caused a mammal specifically a human to produce lactase into adulthood, and consequently could digest lactose into adulthood. The gene of lactose tolerance if you will. This mutation originated somewhere in Europe most likely on the island of Britain and was such a huge survival advantage that is spread quickly. But not quickly enough for the end of the age of human evolution was right around the corner. So genetically speaking if you are of linage that goes back to either Britain or Norse your odds of being lactose tolerant is high, and it drops off as your lineage becomes distant.
Posted by: mikethemoose

Okay, but don't "Asians" eat literal garbage?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:48 PM (MHqAN)

180 Went out, played a little blackjack, and come home a couple hundred up. Turn on the tube and here's this Andy Card fuck telling me Retardo unified NATO and everybody should applaud like trained seals at the SOTU.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 01, 2022 02:47 PM (lz5hY)

This is what I was talking about earlier. I just CAN'T with this shit.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (Ez6QX)

181 Just why the hell are the leftists obsessed by sex, and especially deviant sex?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
-------------------
You probably have a representative sample on campus to ask or simply attend some of the student activity fee funded bacchanals.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (Iq9dF)

182 Democrats don't have foreign enemies; they have foreigners who remind them of domestic enemies.

Well, and Jews

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (KZzsI)

183 New respect for Ukraine after watching the CBS video- "Ukrainian law mandates transgender undergo extensive psychiatric observation and other steps to change their gender on legal documentation."

Posted by: redridinghood at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (NpAcC)

184 But on the bright side....
No mean tweets and the norms are restored!!!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (Vxu+H)

185 Is kharkiv kharkov?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (ufFY8)

186
BREAKING: John Kerry to Host Comintern Summit on Today's Hottest Topic "War, What is it Bad For? Existential Threats to the Climate, Transgenders, and Pronouns."
Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 01, 2022 02:47 PM (NOY52)

John Kerry walks into a bar and the bartender looks up and says "HEY EVERYBODY! LOOK! It's Sarah Jessica Parker!"

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)

187 I am multi-tasking. I am worried sick about what is happening to the United States that I once knew, and currently, what is happening in Ukraine.

Just like every war, ever, it is always the innocents that are terrorized, torn apart, and killed. It is the heads of State that suffer but the "others".

I am praying daily for us all. Multitasking.

Posted by: Cheri at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (oiNtH)

188 122 Has anybody heard from Cpl Klinger and get his take on all this?
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (dKiJG)

He'd be General Klinger in today's Army.

Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (BJKQV)

189 I just can't figure out what Putins goal is here if that is what he is doing. Does he want WWIII?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (qnVBz)

Putin - "Come on you apes, do you want to live forever?!?!"

Posted by: Thrawn at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (Rl7KJ)

190 Some of the Soviet submunitions were colorful and attractive to children who would pick them up...

Posted by: Archer at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (gmo/4)

191 I have it on very good authority - no less than the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States - that which president appoints a judge is entirely irrelevant.
____________

Yep, there is no such thing as a "Trump judge" or a "Biden judge."

Chief Justice John Roberts told everybody that himself, so we know it must be true!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at March 01, 2022 02:50 PM (k4dH2)

192 Have you seen pictures of captured Russian soldiers? They look about as scary as our transgendered admiral.
Posted by: Caliban

Can you say "peasant conscript"?

Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at March 01, 2022 02:50 PM (i2zoD)

193 182 Democrats don't have foreign enemies; they have foreigners who remind them of domestic enemies.

Well, and Jews
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (KZzsI)

===========

"Not us, right? Right?!"
-Progressive Jews

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:50 PM (LvTSG)

194 Russians bomb George Floyd memorial

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2022 02:50 PM (us2H3)

195 Boy we could sure use a SMOD right about now. At least the world will still be inhabitable after the impact clears.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at March 01, 2022 02:50 PM (Wg1SU)

196 "The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied male residents of the state between the ages of seventeen and forty-five who are not serving in any force of the organized militia or who are not on the state reserve list or the state retired list and who are or who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States,
subject, however, to such exemptions from military duty as are created by the laws of the United States."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 01, 2022 02:48 PM (ppL7t)

Written just a couple of years before the Geneva convention.... and under said law we are all required to have a musket of rifle.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 02:50 PM (oHd/0)

197
How many of us here could live on what a typical Afghani eats? Or what a typical chinaman eats?

We'd puke. They eat like billygoats. And probably eat billygoats, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:51 PM (MHqAN)

198 Andy Card, another idiot inflicted upon us by Boosh.

Thanks Shrub. I'm sorry I voted for you.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 01, 2022 02:51 PM (PiwSw)

199 We'd puke. They eat like billygoats. And probably eat billygoats, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:51 PM (MHqAN)

Fuck them, too.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 01, 2022 02:51 PM (II3Gr)

200 I just can't figure out what Putins goal is here if that is what he is doing. Does he want WWIII?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (qnVBz)

Putin - "Come on you apes, do you want to live forever?!?!"
Posted by: Thrawn

Leroy Jenkins!!!!!!

Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at March 01, 2022 02:51 PM (i2zoD)

201 Just in- Putin bomb does great damage to Holocaust memorial.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 01, 2022 02:51 PM (NpAcC)

202 Russians bomb George Floyd memorial
Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2022 02:50 PM (us2H3)

Didn't God strike one down with a bolt of lightning?

PUTIN IS PLAYING GOD!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:52 PM (Zz0t1)

203 194 Russians bomb George Floyd memorial
Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2022 02:50 PM (us2H3)

Are there any gigantic Floyd murals in Kiev?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at March 01, 2022 02:52 PM (eGTCV)

204 Just why the hell are the leftists obsessed by sex, and especially deviant sex?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (YqDXo)

It's the same way with drugs and drug addicts.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 01, 2022 02:52 PM (z5Vrg)

205 Russians bomb George Floyd memorial
Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2022 02:50 PM (us2H3)

Accidentally, right?

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2022 02:52 PM (Ez6QX)

206 #187 Boy I mucked that up.

It is not the heads of State that suffer but the "others".

Also the soldier who die defending their country.

Posted by: Cheri at March 01, 2022 02:52 PM (oiNtH)

207 Ian Galt - yes. Slight transliteration differences. Same-same with the whole Kiev/whatever thing.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2022 02:52 PM (OTzUX)

208 The "Doll" that is always laying amongst the rubble in the fake "war correspondent's" path as he walks the scene.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (MHqAN)

Pretty sure I saw a Teddy Bear in the rubble.

Posted by: Javems at March 01, 2022 02:52 PM (MGjUO)

209 Just why the hell are the leftists obsessed by sex, and especially deviant sex?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (YqDXo)

Because they have carefully rejected traditional sex/gender roles. Consequently, the sex they have is crappy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (XIJ/X)

210 I just can't figure out what Putins goal is here if that is what he is doing. Does he want WWIII?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
----------------
The problem with being an authoritarian leader is that the retirement plan sucks often with life extinguishing consequences.

If Putin has to decide who owns the downside between Ukrainian civilians and himself--you just know who he is going to choose.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (Iq9dF)

211
Thanks Shrub. I'm sorry I voted for you.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 01, 2022 02:51 PM (PiwSw)

I was able to take GREAT pleasure in NOT voting for George P. Bush today.

Felt good.....

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (Zz0t1)

212 Uh...

Capitol One is down.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (LvTSG)

213 This might be a good story for a post. "Teens Lead Explosion In DC Carjackings, Most Have Prior Criminal Records." There's even a CV19 angle.

https://tinyurl.com/56p58kjd

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (iFTx/)

214 Written just a couple of years before the Geneva convention.... and under said law we are all required to have a musket of rifle.

You're right. In fact, I have always thought that Cuomo's Safe Act is contrary to law because the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for the American military when it comes to PDW, and Cuomo's law deprives the unregulated militia of the standard PDW.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (ppL7t)

215 The Ukrainian people were overthrown in 2014. They were crawling back when they elected their new president in 2019. I don't think I'd lay this at the feet of the Ukrainian people, but the Western governments that fomented the color revolution in 2014 and then used the place as their personal piggy bank for nearly a decade until they crashed American energy production to the point where Putin had the extra cash to fund some foreign adventurism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa

Yes and in that sense they are, borrowing from Tuchman, a distant mirror to the soft coup here. We too will be accountable for the rot we've allowed in virtually every civic, governing and social institutions here. And like Ukraine, we too have been for sale brokered by the Clinton, Bidens, et al.

Posted by: 7man at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (qwO6y)

216 No, I said he'll be watching and I'll be doing taxes. I may or may not try to use my feminine wiles to entice him away from the TV. We'll see how I feel.
Posted by: Jordan61

Doing taxes naked for the win!!!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (Vxu+H)

217 They were not declared combatants. They were declared members of the militia. Not the same thing.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 01, 2022 02:48 PM (ppL7t)

The vast majority of those men (and indeed most militias) are basically expendable shields for the criminals, actual Nazis, and Ukrainian soldiers that are ready to actually fight the Russians. So they could do a lot of damage if "motivated" to do so. The problem is that such men are draining the urban food supplies as the Russians wait outside. If you want minimal deaths and stockpiles to last, you use only hardened fighters. Which is going to really disadvantage Ukraine as the main Russian army moves in to cut them off totally.

Posted by: trev006 at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (Eqkqm)

218 What's the difference between terror bombing and just, you know, bombing.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (YV6PJ)

219 Uh...

Capitol One is down.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (LvTSG)
++++
The Speaker of the House has her own aircraft designation now? Why?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (DU+/6)

220 Annihilated?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (MmndN)

221 Why would I be concerned with one tyrant 10,000 miles away when I am confronted with 10,000 tyrants one mile away?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (o2MD2)

222
Capitol One is down.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (LvTSG)

Quick! Someone get Samuel L. Jackson on the line!

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (Zz0t1)

223 >>I just can't figure out what Putins goal is here if that is what he is doing. Does he want WWIII?

The same thing he's been telling the west he wants for years, no further eastward expansion of NATO.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (ZLI7S)

224 188 122 Has anybody heard from Cpl Klinger and get his take on all this?
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 01, 2022 02:41 PM (dKiJG)

He'd be General Klinger in today's Army.
Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 02:49 PM (BJKQV)
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He probably is General Modern Milley

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (iKkzt)

225 Don't lactase me, bro!

Posted by: Hippie Guy at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (UHVv4)

226 Pretty sure I saw a Teddy Bear in the rubble.
Posted by: Javems at March 01, 2022 02:52 PM (MGjUO)

A pristine teddy bear, carefully, oh so carefully placed atop the rubble. Pulitzer here I come baby!

Posted by: AP Photographer at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (PiwSw)

227 I hear you, but someone reminded me last night that Biden, Obama, and Bush are all rooting for Ukraine. When my proclivities line up with the likes of them, I at least need to reconsider the matter.
Posted by: 496 at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (VJsqe)

And so is Nazi collaborator George Soros.
_________

Hillary Clinton and the U.N. are also on Team Ukraine.

In fact, all the globalists seem to be.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (k4dH2)

228 Top photo, that STOP sign (in Cyrillic) is a fitting caption.

Posted by: m at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (k8wcX)

229 I hear you, but someone reminded me last night that Biden, Obama, and Bush are all rooting for Ukraine. When my proclivities line up with the likes of them, I at least need to reconsider the matter.
Posted by: 496 at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (VJsqe)
____________

Hmm. (Ponders that one.) That is disturbing.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Putin - Still a fucking commie.

Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at March 01, 2022 02:55 PM (i2zoD)

230 Ace: "But I worry about the authoritarian tyrants at my own door first."

Yep. That's been the takeaway for, now, years as every crisis is not to be wasted. Government, mainly originating at the Federal level here in the US, remains the nexus for the creation, amplification, distribution, and execution of dissolution of civil liberties and Constitutional order. It's wave after wave of a perpetual tide wearing We, the People, down.

Populism is the target. No matter the issue, the determination is that the public remains a growing threat to insular bubble people who rely on the occasionally culled herd to support their lifestyles. And cull they will until the sufficient, docile mix remains.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at March 01, 2022 02:55 PM (aXxgO)

231 226 Pretty sure I saw a Teddy Bear in the rubble.
Posted by: Javems at March 01, 2022 02:52 PM (MGjUO)

A pristine teddy bear, carefully, oh so carefully placed atop the rubble. Pulitzer here I come baby!
Posted by: AP Photographer at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (PiwSw)

Burnt koran.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 01, 2022 02:55 PM (II3Gr)

232 Russians bomb George Floyd memorial

We're waiting on reports as to whether the statue could breathe or not.

Posted by: CNN at March 01, 2022 02:55 PM (ppL7t)

233 22 Hey Lister, it's not a war crime if you win.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2022 02:29 PM (axyOa)

Interesting point. I'm trying to think of a counterexample, but cannot.

Hmm . . .

Posted by: a.moron at March 01, 2022 02:55 PM (tu3iY)

234 Is it true that black Ukes fleeing on busses are put last or not at all?

Posted by: Capital Eff - Ezekiel 38 Times at March 01, 2022 02:55 PM (GYllL)

235 There are no good people involved in this.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 01, 2022 02:55 PM (Tx2c6)

236
Burnt koran.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 01, 2022 02:55 PM (II3Gr)

That would show they got the right building.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:56 PM (Zz0t1)

237
Because they have carefully rejected traditional sex/gender roles. Consequently, the sex they have is crappy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (XIJ/X)

In fairness, I have dated some feminists and the important thing to remember is that just because they are not having good sex does not mean that you are not

Posted by: Y5 at March 01, 2022 02:56 PM (Lgohd)

238 The correspondent's carry their props with them.
All part of the optics and propaganda.

Posted by: Ziba at March 01, 2022 02:56 PM (S1hrL)

239 >Milk, now, is "problematic." Fucking milk.

Protein.
It's a war on nutrients, they want us small and weak.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2022 02:56 PM (MmndN)

240 What's the difference between terror bombing and just, you know, bombing.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (YV6PJ)

Because of Bidenflation, $22, same as in town.

Posted by: Archer at March 01, 2022 02:56 PM (gmo/4)

241 someone reminded me last night that Biden, Obama, and Bush are all rooting for Ukraine
---
So is George Soros.

This is all too complicated for me to figure out, but I LOVE to see Russian soldiers get killed, so I think I'll just focus on the positive here.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2022 02:56 PM (sWM8x)

242
Capitol One is down.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (LvTSG)

Kumswala is on her knees again?

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)

243 What's the difference between terror bombing and just, you know, bombing.

Journalists watched some movies and they know bombing is pin point perfect accuracy that harms no one but the intended target. You could blow up a woman next to a baby carriage from orbit!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (KZzsI)

244 This busty blonde in a sweater isn't very concerned about Ukrainian transgenders, but she is very concerned about the tyranny encroaching from all sides at home:
https://is.gd/kMv2tz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (DU+/6)

245 Just in! Russian rounds use deflagrating propellants with exothermic chemical reactions that travel at over 1000 km/s! They're using exothermic chemicals for the love of God! WAR CRIME!!!

Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (BJKQV)

246 Come on, now. How clear must we be- we need you in this war.

Posted by: Klaus Schwab at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (l0Lgi)

247 The same thing he's been telling the west he wants for years, no further eastward expansion of NATO.
Posted by: JackStraw

Why does he get to decide over autonomous countries?

Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (i2zoD)

248 I just can't figure out what Putins goal is here if that is what he is doing. Does he want WWIII?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (qnVBz)
===

If you are using what our media is regurgitating then you will never know what he is doing. Me, I think Putin is a long time spy that has good strategic instincts. Knows what he is doing and has a purpose and goal(s). Do agree with what he doing no but I do know if our media is saying he looks bad or is crazy the exact opposite is true. Now of course this could be the 1 out of 1000 time our media is correct but I doubt it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (iDcra)

249
This is all too complicated for me to figure out, but I LOVE to see Russian soldiers get killed, so I think I'll just focus on the positive here.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2022 02:56 PM (sWM8x)

To be honest, there really are no winners in that situation.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)

250 Just why the hell are the leftists obsessed by sex, and especially deviant sex?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (YqDXo)

--------

Human sexuality and the family are the final frontier of institutions that must be destroyed in order to achieve NPC Utopia?

That, and they don't conceive of man as higher than base animal instincts?

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (2s+Jh)

251 false foreign enemies.

Genuine American Red Oak FTW!

Posted by: DaveA at March 01, 2022 02:58 PM (FhXTo)

252 I just can't figure out what Putins goal is here if that is what he is doing. Does he want WWIII?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
----------------
The problem with being an authoritarian leader is that the retirement plan sucks often with life extinguishing consequences.

If Putin has to decide who owns the downside between Ukrainian civilians and himself--you just know who he is going to choose.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (Iq9dF)
*******
He doesn't have a cell phone or use the internet so he is probably clueless as to how the world is perceiving his actions and gets his information from "yes-men" shielding him from negative press.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 01, 2022 02:58 PM (NpAcC)

253 TrivialPursuer: "In fact, all the globalists seem to be."

You get the feeling that the Ukraine was the bank to be pillaged and the US is the shopping mall to be raided.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at March 01, 2022 02:58 PM (aXxgO)

254 Protein.
It's a war on nutrients, they want us small and weak.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2022 02:56 PM (MmndN)

This was the whole point of Moochelle's starvation ration school lunch nonsense, in my opinion.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 01, 2022 02:58 PM (II3Gr)

255 Hillary Clinton and the U.N. are also on Team Ukraine.

In fact, all the globalists seem to be.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (k4dH2)

Russia's government is proudly pro Russia... that cannot be allowed. Ukraine is already asking for entry in the EU, and NATO membership will follow if they win.

Internationalists vs Nationalists.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 02:58 PM (oHd/0)

256
Capitol One is down.
Posted by: TheJamesMadiso

Dollar store hardest hit

Posted by: Y5 at March 01, 2022 02:58 PM (Lgohd)

257 I was reading about the history of the Civil Affairs branch in WWII last week (didn't get very far, it's a bit boring) and as the army was getting Civil Affairs off the ground (from zero basically) in the run up to the North African campaign, Harlod Ickes (Sec. Interior, his son became a Clinton crony) was trying to stomp them out (or at least control appointments) because he was concerned Civil Affairs was being staffed up with Republicans (Anti-New Dealers).

Posted by: Match Checksout at March 01, 2022 02:58 PM (dYe5S)

258 The American news media is so fundamentally stupid and unserious it beggars disbelief.

Russian mechanized forces roll into a neighboring country, killing people left and right, destroying whatever they feel like, and CBS finds the one fucking chick with a dick in Kiev to do a human-interest piece about?

LOLGF.

Posted by: ballistic at March 01, 2022 02:58 PM (oXNqT)

259 So genetically speaking if you are of linage that goes back to either Britain or Norse your odds of being lactose tolerant is high, and it drops off as your lineage becomes distant.
Posted by: mikethemoose

Okay, but don't "Asians" eat literal garbage?
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news

And have near universal lactose intolerance.

Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at March 01, 2022 02:59 PM (OUMaO)

260 https://is.gd/kMv2tz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (DU+/6)

Good lord. Each boob has Spalding printed on it.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)

261
Before you turn your backs on Ukranians, remember that most of the world sees Americans as gay, pedophiliac transgender racists that insist on submission to unqualified people because of their color.

Posted by: Auspex at March 01, 2022 02:59 PM (Xo3T0)

262 I 'spose Biden is napping right now, in preparation for his drug cocktails later in the evening. My daughter just told me the speech starts at nine o'clock, which I hadn't realized. Even a lot of Democrats will be missing it, at least those in the core Dominion coastal constituencies of the east.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 02:59 PM (iKkzt)

263
Well, the Dairy Industry is indeed "problematic" to the Left Wing.

They hate the Dairy Industry as much the Coal Industry and whatever the cattle industry is called.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:59 PM (MHqAN)

264 Hollywood is withholding new movie releases in Russia. How do we get them to do that here?

Posted by: IP at March 01, 2022 02:59 PM (SDdI7)

265 Putin didn't want NATO, so they're giving him EU instead. No worries!

Posted by: Ziba at March 01, 2022 02:59 PM (S1hrL)

266 Capitol One is down.

What's in your bumazhnik?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 01, 2022 02:59 PM (ppL7t)

267 What's the difference between terror bombing and just, you know, bombing.

The TV saying you're supposed to be sympathetic with the people being bombed, because reasons.

Posted by: Methos at March 01, 2022 02:59 PM (kOpft)

268 Doing taxes naked for the win!!!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (Vxu+H)

I think you're onto something there...

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2022 03:00 PM (Ez6QX)

269 How many of us here could live on what a typical Afghani eats? Or what a typical chinaman eats?

We'd puke. They eat like billygoats. And probably eat billygoats, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer,

In Iraq and Afghanistan, US military squadron leaders would go out to the locals and try and get intel and build relationships. One way was to go to where they live and break bread with them. Most would say afterwards, that you would do this knowing that you would vomiting and have dysentery that would last for a few days afterwards.

Posted by: Cheri at March 01, 2022 03:00 PM (oiNtH)

270

George Mason, Co-author of the Second Amendment during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

"A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves... and include all men capable of bearing arms...To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms... The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 01, 2022 03:00 PM (63Dwl)

271 Russian mechanized forces roll into a neighboring country, killing people left and right, destroying whatever they feel like, and CBS finds the one fucking chick with a dick in Kiev to do a human-interest piece about?

LOLGF.
Posted by: ballistic at March 01, 2022 02:58 PM (oXNqT)

Serious journalism.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 01, 2022 03:00 PM (II3Gr)

272 Putin's goal is obvious and simple - and likely impossible to achieve, as there was a perfect built-in-paradox - and you have to filter out the red meat nonsense from his rhetoric, but it's right there (well, almost).

A de facto finlandized Ukraine is the goal. This situation has been building for years, and was no secret - the west just dismissed Russian concerns. Moscow as a last-ditch thing tried negotiations to get a European mutual security declaration with attached conditions (last year). They began their build-up of forces now in action at the same time (their back-up option).

Likely impossible to achieve because coercing a state like Ukraine without using force is pretty difficult. Paradox because using force is also not a very sure method - and of course results in the *opposite* occurring ..... Ukraine even more determined to have protection and integration with NATO and the west.

Russia's (not Putin's, Russia's) only alternative was just to eat the sandwich and accept Ukraine's gradual de facto/formal evolution towards NATO status. That's it. Not complicated.

D and L are distractions in a sense, remove them from the calculation and nothing changes.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2022 03:00 PM (OTzUX)

273 229>>> 'ZACTLY

Meth Head Biden and his pants shitting dad are skimming money from the Ukraine, as are no doubt countless pols on both sides of the aisle. Biden, Obama, and Bush are all rooting for Ukraine. And so is Nazi collaborator George Soros. Hillary Clinton and the U.N. are also on Team Ukraine. In fact, all the globalists seem to be.

And Putin is a commie.

Tell me again why I should care about Ukraine?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 01, 2022 03:00 PM (UFP5z)

274 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (UFP5z)

You can have sympathy for the people and not the leaders that got them into this. Zelensky is a fucking pig for arming untrained citizens in hopes their deaths will bring in western troops as well as for begging to be part of NATO which puts them on the border of Russia. It's dumbfounding that people think countries like Russia will just role over and accept what they perceive as security threats on their border.

This also isn't a decimation. You want to see a decimation then look what NATO does when they invade.

I would suggest people watch some Felix Rex or Captain Red Pill

Posted by: ryukyu at March 01, 2022 03:00 PM (4n6fw)

275 It's not a war crime. It's just war. The idiots in power are used to their little excursions, where you can ignore the dead. That's why they think having a nuclear attack is no big deal.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at March 01, 2022 03:00 PM (5HBd1)

276 Is it true that black Ukes fleeing on busses are put last or not at all?
Posted by: Capital Eff - Ezekiel 38 Times at March 01, 2022 02:55 PM (GYllL)

Chained to the bumper on roller skates.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 01, 2022 03:00 PM (Tx2c6)

277
Russian mechanized forces roll into a neighboring country, killing people left and right, destroying whatever they feel like, and CBS finds the one fucking chick with a dick in Kiev to do a human-interest piece about?

LOLGF.
Posted by: ballistic at March 01, 2022 02:58 PM (oXNqT)

Carl Kolchak's boss would never have let him get away with crap like this.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at March 01, 2022 03:00 PM (eGTCV)

278 Those darn Russians. Fighting to win? That's not fair. It's a war crime. Everyone knows civilized countries occupy a foreign state for 20 years and then leave to allow the same adversary you supposedly toppled retake control and seize a fortune in tax-payer bought equipment.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at March 01, 2022 03:00 PM (KFhLj)

279 If you're of the opinion that the globalists are trying to stoke WW3, then you see Putin being goaded into attacking Ukraine because they were loudly touting Ukraine's entrance into NATO.

In the same vein, you might also see this as a way to take out Putin, who has historically been anti-globalist and speaking out against its lead players.

*removes ton foil hat*

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 01, 2022 03:01 PM (LKTKP)

280
I think you're onto something there...
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2022 03:00 PM (Ez6QX)

You know the rules around here.......

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 03:01 PM (Zz0t1)

281 >> Just why the hell are the leftists obsessed by sex, and especially deviant sex?

Blogger Bookworm answered this years ago -- still an excellent read (though it pre-dates the transgender craze): https://tinyurl.com/54bnyvvj

What's interesting is that, because the Left expresses itself in terms of "freeing" people's sexuality, many people miss the fact that it is every bit as sexually controlling in its own way as Islam is.

This control comes about because the Left works assiduously to decouple sex from a person's own sense of bodily privacy and, by extension, self-ownership. If a person has no sense of autonomy, that person is a ready-made cog for the statist machinery."

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2022 03:01 PM (MmndN)

282
I mean, you can't say "methane" is our biggest environmental threat (next to our other "biggest" environmental threats such as Carbon and Oil) without going after the Dairy Industry.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 03:01 PM (MHqAN)

283 I just can't figure out what Putins goal is here if that is what he is doing. Does he want WWIII?

The same thing he's been telling the west he wants for years, no further eastward expansion of NATO.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2022 02:54 PM (ZLI7S)

And he will continue escalating until it's clear in "our" actions that we've gotten the message. Much like we did in Iraq.

Posted by: Methos at March 01, 2022 03:01 PM (kOpft)

284 I for one am thrilled to see CBS focusing on the issues that matter most to Americans.
Good grief.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 02:27 PM (DU+/6)

It must be pure hell for them. While the typical Ukrainian is trying to secure things like meat, bread and warm clothing - which are no doubt being donated - can you imagine how hard it is to find a proper blush and foundation? Especially if you're a summer complexion? And eye liner doesn't exactly grow on trees. And a decent pair of pumps! What if you're a 13WW? What are you supposed to wear, boots?!? Fashion is always the first casualty of war, and it's wrong.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 01, 2022 03:01 PM (wAnMi)

285 CBS finds the one fucking chick with a dick in Kiev to do a human-interest piece about?

It pays to network with the Kiev Children's Reading Club.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 01, 2022 03:02 PM (ppL7t)

286 >>Why does he get to decide over autonomous countries?

Why does the west? He has been demanding and is still demanding that Ukraine stay neutral. And despite the media not really covering it this is not the only place the west has been doing this. Both Belarus and Kazakhstan have been mucked around with recently, in Kazakhstan's case as recently as last month.

Remember what happened when Cuba agreed to take Russian missiles? We didn't take too kindly to that.

Not a defense of Putin but if you constantly poke the bear you can't be surprised when the bear bites back.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2022 03:02 PM (ZLI7S)

287
Where is biden's stupid cocksucker brother??

He has major corrupt ties with Ukraine.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 03:02 PM (MHqAN)

288 It is all an op. All of it. The past 5 years have been one big mind fuck of an op. There is no truth. There is no reality.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 03:02 PM (qnVBz)

289 264 Hollywood is withholding new movie releases in Russia. How do we get them to do that here?
Posted by: IP at March 01, 2022 02:59 PM (SDdI7)

So, they don't get the latest Gay American Cowboy movie that is going to get all the awards?

THE HORROR!

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 03:03 PM (oHd/0)

290 The longer I've been under sustained attack from my own government, the less I see the symbols and institutions of our government as my own.

This is, I think, an important reason why Olympic viewership not only sucked at the Genocide games, but the one before that. Do we really root for "The USA" like we used to?

Freedom? Yes. And I believe in the ideas and traditions of our founding. And that our country as operated for most of the first 200 years of its history was the greatest country in human history.

But the USG now? Our current flag and what it represents in the form of institutionalized government power and legal authority right now? I will keep the question rhetorical in the interests of plausible deniability.

Posted by: Zek at March 01, 2022 03:03 PM (OzNIz)

291 I have no fucks to give for Ukraine. The reason I don't care about it is that it seems to be a state that impacts me only to the extent that it's a giant money laundering machine for evil fuckers who continually harrass me with higher taxes and fucking up the supply chain and countless other bullshit problems. I don't care if Putin wins. Don't care if the Urkrainians win. Change that, I'm leaning toward hoping Putin wins just because I know that will irritate the malicious fuckers in charge here.

The only hope I have related to this conflict is that it doesn't get innocent people nuked.

Posted by: Mozam at March 01, 2022 03:03 PM (ea+OK)

292 Next up, how one man was forced to put off his transgender surgery when his hospital had to cancel due to large numbers of injured civilians.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 01, 2022 03:03 PM (LKTKP)

293 Good to see Russian ground war tactics from WWII have evolved from flooding the grid square with artillery fires to flooding the grid square with artillery and missile fires. Don't GAS about Ukraine. The Uki gov't is just as corrupt as the USSA gov't. I do care about the Domestic Bolsheviks here in the USSA and what comes next in regards to future kinetic action.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at March 01, 2022 03:03 PM (/7oeZ)

294 D and L are almost all Russian media talks about. It's as if there is nothing else going on in Ukraine. This is a perfect inverse mirror of Russia's actual interests and goals.

D and L could be secured in a few days' time with the force now being used for lots of other things besides. Defending Donbass can be done easily, directly.

Although not doing a systematic monitoring as is now done thanks to digital age, I've noticed that Russian media now has just about dropped down to the real issue when discussing Ukraine in general, this operation, and not just focusing on D and L. "Demilitarization" is now always mentioned, the ridiculous "denazification" that was paired with it from the beginning now starting to be left out.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2022 03:03 PM (OTzUX)

295 The Russkies have promoted the Green Party, and enviro' stuff in general, with intent to weaken us. But the left and DeepState are not deceived, they too use the propaganda for their own anti-America ends. Globalists have their own agenda.

And besides shutting down American production to good oil over $100 (aiding Putin's adventures) ... Hillary was more direct in her help for Russia, taking $50M (?) for her foundation, as well as Bill taking in a million or so for a couple speeches. In return Russia got access to Uranium One AND the Skolkovo deal which open a door for silicon valley tech, including (many say) military tech, like the hypersonic weapons tech.

The Clinton excuse in the 90s was they wanted multi-polarity, so they sold/gave multi warhead missile tech to China, and open door access to God only knows how much other tech, walking it right out the door at will.

So yes, the left and DeepState are at war with superpower USA, and with the Liberty for which we stand.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 01, 2022 03:03 PM (Cus5s)

296 Ukraine have given anyone that wants to fight, open gun ownership.

Are they going to get them back when this is over?

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)

297 If you're of the opinion that the globalists are trying to stoke WW3, then you see Putin being goaded into attacking Ukraine because they were loudly touting Ukraine's entrance into NATO.

In the same vein, you might also see this as a way to take out Putin, who has historically been anti-globalist and speaking out against its lead players.

*removes ton foil hat*
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 01, 2022 03:01 PM (LKTKP)

Yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 01, 2022 03:04 PM (Tx2c6)

298 286 >>Why does he get to decide over autonomous countries?

Putin doesn't...that's why were here right now.

Posted by: Nova local at March 01, 2022 03:04 PM (exHjb)

299 George Soros is only saying that he supports Ukraine because he knows how much his name has become mud. He knows how much the Right despises him and hopes we turn against Ukraine.

Every single thing Soros does is strategic.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 01, 2022 03:04 PM (NpAcC)

300 247-

Ukraine is an autonomous country the same way the u.s. border with Mexico is a barrier to illegal immigration.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2022 03:04 PM (YV6PJ)

301 The thing is is that every next thing gives you more of a sense that we are just in the matrix

Posted by: Y5 at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (Lgohd)

302 Why does the west? He has been demanding and is still demanding that Ukraine stay neutral. And despite the media not really covering it this is not the only place the west has been doing this. Both Belarus and Kazakhstan have been mucked around with recently, in Kazakhstan's case as recently as last month. ...
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2022 03:02 PM (ZLI7S)
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Part of me thinks that might have been the tipping point on this. After 2014, Putin made it very clear that Russia considered "color revolutions" a security threat and that the west had better not try it again in his part of the world. This was an expansion of his version of the Monroe Doctrine.

It is entirely possible that we tried to pull of a color revolution in Kazakhstan. Russia rolled in and quashed it quickly, but it may have been a factor in this action.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (DU+/6)

303 The same thing he's been telling the west he wants for years, no further eastward expansion of NATO.
Posted by: JackStraw

Why does he get to decide over autonomous countries?
Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (i2zoD)
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Maybe he read the Monroe Doctrine and said, hmmm....maybe that's analogous to something we should do....

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (iKkzt)

304 207 Ian Galt - yes. Slight transliteration differences. Same-same with the whole Kiev/whatever thing.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2022 02:52 PM (OTzUX)

OK. I just recall and old SPI game named Kharkov, and was thinking this was the same place.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (ufFY8)

305 250 Just why the hell are the leftists obsessed by sex, and especially deviant sex?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (YqDXo)

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Human sexuality and the family are the final frontier of institutions that must be destroyed in order to achieve NPC Utopia?

That, and they don't conceive of man as higher than base animal instincts?
Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (2s+Jh)

Also, apparently "newspeople" and their bosses think about sex A LOT. Like, constantly. They ruin their careers, reputations and marriages over it.

Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (BJKQV)

306 The same thing he's been telling the west he wants for years, no further eastward expansion of NATO.
Posted by: JackStraw

Why does he get to decide over autonomous countries?
Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at March 01, 2022 02:57 PM (i2zoD)

Same reason we didn't tolerate Communists in Central America.

Posted by: Statistics at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (OUOZt)

307 Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 01, 2022 03:01 PM (wAnMi)
...

I'm sure AOC could teach them a thing or two about that and she's in Congress, too!

Posted by: Ziba at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (S1hrL)

308 Are they going to get them back when this is over?

No, baby, they're not.

Posted by: Oddball at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (ppL7t)

309 He doesn't have a cell phone or use the internet so he is probably clueless as to how the world is perceiving his actions and gets his information from "yes-men" shielding him from negative press.

Posted by: redridinghood
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That is another problem with authoritarians. They gradually cut themselves off, intentionally or unintentionally, from any negative feedback on policies. Frankly, not particularly impressed by Putin and dislike the idea that Putin represents the pinnacle of nationalism when in fact he is a typical kleptocrat authoritarian. Stashing billions overseas in accounts over time is kind of a tell.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (Iq9dF)

310 Isn't Kiev the original site or one of the original sites for the founding of the orthodox church in Russia? Putin envisions a Great Russia again. The Russian nationalism encompasses the orthodox church.

Posted by: Floridachick at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (bTk5A)

311 Not a defense of Putin but if you constantly poke the bear you can't be surprised when the bear bites back.

There was an excellent piece probably 2 weeks ago that I wish I could remember where I read it. They made the case that in the 90s half of the foreign policy establishment in the West chose to poke the bear as much as possible and convinced Bill Clinton to go along. So, long story short, ATC is right again and everything is the fault of the Clintons.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 01, 2022 03:06 PM (ZGrMX)

312 In good news, today is Mardi Gras, so cake is the order of the day. Today, I made speculoos vanilla cupcakes (take vanilla cake mix, make it with some additional TBs of melted speculoos). Now, I'm trying to decide if I should ice with vanilla, chocolate, speculoos, or even cinnamon frosting...

Posted by: Nova local at March 01, 2022 03:06 PM (exHjb)

313 227 I hear you, but someone reminded me last night that Biden, Obama, and Bush are all rooting for Ukraine. When my proclivities line up with the likes of them, I at least need to reconsider the matter.
Posted by: 496 at March 01, 2022 02:46 PM (VJsqe)
And so is Nazi collaborator George Soros.
_________

Hillary Clinton and the U.N. are also on Team Ukraine.

In fact, all the globalists seem to be.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer-
_________

This all makes sense, since Russia has been against the US led "globalism." Russia has been against that faction, and always has been. Russia seems to have been pushing for a stronger German/French role in Europe (under Russia's thumb) and pushing US out. So of course the US globalists are against that.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2022 03:06 PM (EX6K8)

314 >>CBS finds the one fucking chick with a dick in Kiev to do a human-interest piece about?

Fox News just had an Afghan refugee lady who fled to Ukraine name Saumyaa. Interestingly, she spoke really good English. Reminded of those propaganda twitter accounts out of the Middle East where some 8 year old Syrian girl opines about peace, etc, in English. Uh, yeah, sure.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2022 03:06 PM (MmndN)

315 Also, it irritates me to no end, that I have to spend time figuring out the correct way to say and spell "Kiev". I remember when the Iraq war started, I had to learn the difference between Shite and Sunni Islam and why it was important. That pissed me right off. Fuck them. To this day, I resent the fact that I needed to learn the difference.

Same shit here.

Posted by: Mozam at March 01, 2022 03:06 PM (ea+OK)

316 ballistic: "Russian mechanized forces roll into a neighboring country, killing people left and right, destroying whatever they feel like, and CBS finds the one fucking chick with a dick in Kiev to do a human-interest piece about?"

One stressed transexual is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic, especially if they're heteros.

Posted by: Josef Stalin Rather at March 01, 2022 03:06 PM (aXxgO)

317 We've got 400 military aircraft up in the air over the US at the moment. I hope we have favored-customer status with Russia for all that fuel.

Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2022 03:07 PM (AytXr)

318 SOTU is at 9:00, not 8:00? So Tucker will be on or do we have to sit through Joni Ernst bleating?

Posted by: Ziba at March 01, 2022 03:07 PM (S1hrL)

319 Also, apparently "newspeople" and their bosses think about sex A LOT. Like, constantly. They ruin their careers, reputations and marriages over it.

Posted by: 29Victor
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Essentially newspeople in TV are in the entertainment industry and have the same foibles as Hollywood. Their business bosses are creepy predators attracted by a rich environment of people willing to play to win a golden ticket to celebrity.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:07 PM (Iq9dF)

320 I 'spose Biden is napping right now, in preparation for his drug cocktails later in the evening. My daughter just told me the speech starts at nine o'clock, which I hadn't realized. Even a lot of Democrats will be missing it, at least those in the core Dominion coastal constituencies of the east.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 02:59 PM (iKkzt)

For all we know, it's already been recorded and in the can, and Biden is napping, getting ready to watch himself.

If it really is live, they've probably been getting his internal clock adjusted so his body thinks it's 1pm at 9. I have no doubt they do this shit all the time with him. Can't have him starting to sundown before he goes live. So he's probably been in a dark room during the day for days, morning happening late afternoon. I think they've got his "booster" timed to know exactly when it kicks in, and for how long. He always seems wound up at the start of these things.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 01, 2022 03:07 PM (wAnMi)

321 My idiot niece posted one of those pics of a child refugee in Kharkiv. My niece personally is going to go to Russia and fuck up Putin, OMG.

Five minutes later, look at my new hairstyle, guyz.

Real mercenary.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 01, 2022 03:08 PM (czHML)

322 Ukraine have given anyone that wants to fight, open gun ownership.

Are they going to get them back when this is over?
Posted by: Sponge

What?

Posted by: Sweat Hogs at March 01, 2022 03:08 PM (i2zoD)

323 That is another problem with authoritarians. They gradually cut themselves off, intentionally or unintentionally, from any negative feedback on policies. ...
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (Iq9dF)
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This is also a problem with totalitarianism, whether it be hard or soft like we see today with "cancel culture" and widespread censorship.

By cutting off and censoring dissent and punishing dissenters so everyone else shuts up, you create an intelligence vacuum.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 03:08 PM (DU+/6)

324 I'm at a loss, I don't want to see Ukraine get beat. I don't want Putin to win. I think this can be done without sending in the USAF. If I'm wrong, could someone explain why?

Posted by: Hurricane567 at March 01, 2022 03:08 PM (r/eQe)

325 >CBS finds the one fucking chick with a dick in Kiev to do a human-interest piece about?

NPR got pre-empted! Yay.

Posted by: Ziba at March 01, 2022 03:08 PM (S1hrL)

326 >>It is entirely possible that we tried to pull of a color revolution in Kazakhstan. Russia rolled in and quashed it quickly, but it may have been a factor in this action.

Well it's completely clear to Putin. He flat out said after he helped put down the "grassroots uprising" in Kazakhstan that he would not allow anymore western inspired "color revolutions" in former Soviet states.

He flat out said "color revolutions". The leaders in the West led by President Oatmeal Brain apparently didn't get the message.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2022 03:08 PM (ZLI7S)

327 I thought Rudy had the goods on the Biden Uke corruption. Where the hell is Rudy?

Posted by: Capital Eff - Ezekiel 38 Times at March 01, 2022 03:08 PM (GYllL)

328 That 40-mile convoy north of Kiev has been stalled for two or three days. I don't understand why Ukraine hasn't attacked it.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2022 03:09 PM (sWM8x)

329 >>It is entirely possible that we tried to pull of a color revolution in Kazakhstan. Russia rolled in and quashed it quickly, but it may have been a factor in this action.

Oh yeah, forgot about that -- got very little media coverage, but Kazakhstan has a ton of precious metals, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2022 03:09 PM (MmndN)

330 Ace be preachin'!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 01, 2022 03:09 PM (eeRB6)

331 OK. I just recall and old SPI game named Kharkov, and was thinking this was the same place.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
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The scene of titanic tank battles between the USSR and Germany in WWII and Germany's loss along with failure to win Stalingrad and Leningrad started the long retreat into defeat.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:09 PM (Iq9dF)

332 Maybe he read the Monroe Doctrine and said, hmmm....maybe that's analogous to something we should do....
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (iKkzt)

Yep. I mean, the whole "I don't want Ukraine in NATO" thing is largely just an excuse but, at the same time, I don't understand why people don't understand that a powerful country wouldn't want an adjacent country to be part of a group that exists to oppose them.

Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 03:09 PM (BJKQV)

333 I don't have anything good to say about Putin. He's a murderous thug. But the NATO expansion he objects so mightily to in Ukraine is extra-Constitutional sidestepping of Senate treaty authority and it is a convenient way for globalists to hitch free rides on the 82nd Airborne. None of those countries, except Poland (iirc) even come close to meeting their GDP spending obligations, anyway.

So I too oppose NATO expansion.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (iKkzt)

334 I hear you, but someone reminded me last night that Biden, Obama, and Bush are all rooting for Ukraine. When my proclivities line up with the likes of them, I at least need to reconsider the matter

We have to support the uniparty's efforts to financially ruin Russia for tipping over one of the uniparty's applecarts so that the uniparty can get back to the important work of financially ruining us. All true patriots understand this.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (KFhLj)

335 So, any word on what is happening with the 'talks' that were supposed to happen between the Ukes and Russia?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (oHd/0)

336
Well, the Dairy Industry is indeed "problematic" to the Left Wing.

They hate the Dairy Industry as much the Coal Industry and whatever the cattle industry is called.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at March 01, 2022 02:59 PM (MHqAN)

I was in Whole Foods Sunday with my mom and I think I sprained my face muscles with all the eye rolling I did at the "plant based" blurb on virtually every label. I should have told the cashier that the beef we bought was plant based, naturally bovine processed food.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (n+4am)

337 Someone said in a prior thread that our government dunces could not have figured out that covid would be over on March 1. It is basic epidemiology. The original COVID should have been over by May 2020. Ramp, peak, tail. Done. That is why they said "Two weeks to flatten the curve!"
In my estimation, there were at least 3 releases of different variants. Original, Gamma, and Delta. You can see it in the three peaks of the pandemic. I am not sure if Omicron was a natural mutation or a 4th release kill switch. This is all an op. And it will get worse before it gets better.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (qnVBz)

338 Ukrainian cities are still same name just spelled different.

Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (5Pk7W)

339 Those darn Russians. Fighting to win? That's not fair. It's a war crime. Everyone knows civilized countries occupy a foreign state for 20 years and then leave to allow the same adversary you supposedly toppled retake control and seize a fortune in tax-payer bought equipment.

One wonders how we would have fared in Iraq and Afghanistan with the Russians' Rules of Engagement.

Posted by: Methos at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (kOpft)

340 Capitol One is down.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:53 PM (LvTSG)

Did you perhaps donate to a trucker protest?

Posted by: cool breeze at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (UGKMd)

341 How did Moldova get boned out of having a Black Sea port? Also, what is Moldova and why does it exist?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (yQpMk)

342 Ukraine is going to lose this fight, they cannot defeat Russia. Its just a matter of time. Russia won't like, occupy Ukraine and police them forever, they'll just stomp resistance into the ground, set up a government that loves Putin, and leave except for a chunk in the east that they declare now to be part of Russia.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2022 03:11 PM (KZzsI)

343 330 Ace be preachin'!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 01, 2022 03:09 PM (eeRB6)

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"Now...how am I supposed to steal any of this?!"
-Jonah Goldberg

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 03:11 PM (LvTSG)

344 >>321 My idiot niece posted one of those pics of a child refugee in Kharkiv. My niece personally is going to go to Russia and fuck up Putin, OMG.

Five minutes later, look at my new hairstyle, guyz.

Real mercenary.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie

Obviously she was not beaten enough as a child.

Posted by: Capital Eff - Ezekiel 38 Times at March 01, 2022 03:11 PM (GYllL)

345 Zelensky is a fucking pig for arming untrained citizens in hopes their deaths will bring in western troops as well as for begging to be part of NATO which puts them on the border of Russia.

Bull. Shit.

Zelensky is only doing what he needs to in the face of what is appears to be an overwhelming force. It's commendable, and the fact hat he's staying in country in the face of certain death if he's captured isn't something I could see anyone in the White House doing under he same circumstances.

And I don't recall Zelensky 'begging' to be a part of NATO, because in fact it was Preznit Retard that offered it to him late last year and up unitl the fight started, Zelensky still hadn't accepted the offer.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 01, 2022 03:11 PM (UFP5z)

346 I'm trying real hard to hate the rookies, but almost every super-villain in the world is on the side of Ukraine

Posted by: x at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (uQFwj)

347 Yep. I mean, the whole "I don't want Ukraine in NATO" thing is largely just an excuse but, at the same time, I don't understand why people don't understand that a powerful country wouldn't want an adjacent country to be part of a group that exists to oppose them.
Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 03:09 PM (BJKQV)

Poland was in the Warsaw Pact with the Soviet Union. Goose, meet Gander.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (PiwSw)

348 328 That 40-mile convoy north of Kiev has been stalled for two or three days. I don't understand why Ukraine hasn't attacked it.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
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Could be that column is not what it seems. Some argue that after the airborne decapitation stroke missed, that the Russians are using the threat of the northern columns to keep the best Ukrainian armies pinned to the northern front rather than the south and east of Ukraine.
That would fit with reports of conscripts which a feint would use rather than using up your best troops for a decoy.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (Iq9dF)

349 "Now...how am I supposed to steal any of this?!"
-Jonah Goldberg
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 03:11 PM (LvTSG)
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You don't need to, Jonah. You're out of the closet now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (DU+/6)

350 Hillary Clinton and the U.N. are also on Team Ukraine.

In fact, all the globalists seem to be.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer-
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This all makes sense, since Russia has been against the US led "globalism." ...
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2022 03:06 PM (EX6K

I think we're seeing an authoratarian Nationalist vs Globalist Oligarchs here.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (eeRB6)

351 Also, what is Moldova and why does it exist?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (yQpMk)

Moldova doesn't even know.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (6FeV1)

352 332 Maybe he read the Monroe Doctrine and said, hmmm....maybe that's analogous to something we should do....
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (iKkzt)

Yep. I mean, the whole "I don't want Ukraine in NATO" thing is largely just an excuse but, at the same time, I don't understand why people don't understand that a powerful country wouldn't want an adjacent country to be part of a group that exists to oppose them.
Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 03:09 PM (BJKQV)

It's in the Russian demands in negotiations.

1. Ukraine not in NATO
2. Ukraine "neutral" (unclear what this means cause media)
3. Crimea recognized as part of Russia (been occupied by Russia since 2014, official recognition is kind of a meaningless freebie, wouldn't stop Ukraine from grabbing it if they had the chance)

I would assume something about the separatist regions is also in there but media didn't mention it.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (z5Vrg)

353
Critical Drinker is livestreaming with the real Flash Gordon right now:

https://youtu.be/XGhR_v2-Li8

Posted by: Soothsayer is so devastated by the news from Ukraine at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (AoCoJ)

354 Wow, so much equivalency on this thread.

Russia wants no expansion of NATO because NATO is an effective defense treaty to prevent Russian expansion. He intends to expand, and always has. He does not want "buffer" states, he wants Ukraine (+) as part of Russia.

Russia has a history of expansion. hence, NATO. Ukraine has a history of Russian tyranny. Don't compare this shit to Monroe Doctrine, or Cuba.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (EX6K8)

355 The Russian nationalism encompasses the orthodox church.

And nothing embodies the values of the Orthodox Church like artillery strikes on civilians in an unprovoked war.

Or allying yourself with Bashar Assad in Syria in killing civilians.

Sorry. Not buying that line.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (ppL7t)

356 I don't want Putin to win. I think this can be done without sending in the USAF.

Posted by: Hurricane567 at March 01, 2022 03:08 PM (r/eQe)

Probably not, which is why Ukraine will ultimately lose.

Of course western Europe should be doing the heavy lifting, but we have allowed them to rely on our might for too long. Trump tried to fix it, but it was a bit too late for Ukraine.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (XIJ/X)

357 301 The thing is is that every next thing gives you more of a sense that we are just in the matrix
Posted by: Y5 at March 01, 2022 03:05 PM (Lgohd)
_______________

Seeing the vid of Biden walking on the WH lawn like one of the puppets in Team America can do that to you.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (fs1hN)

358 140 For all the years we've been cheering and declaring the MSM death, they sure the hell are still effective. How the hell did we go from trying to convince a large portion of Democrats during the 70's and 80's Cold War that the Soviet/Russian government was bad and an enemy. Trying to convince the left that Russian government/Putin are our enemy in 2012 only to be told by Barack, "the 80's called and want their foreign policy back" to now Russia/Putin are as evil as the Third Reich and you right-wingers need to stop supporting, working in conjunction with and cheering Russia on? Talk about the "Big Switch". Just like the Republicans did when they took over being the racists and supporting the kkk.
Posted by: JROD at March 01, 2022 02:44 PM (0jZnq)

They can market. They can attract eyeballs. But they're not newspeople.

Posted by: m at March 01, 2022 03:13 PM (k8wcX)

359 The whole "But NATO expansion!" thing ignores whether it is rational/reasonable to invade another country just because it wants to join NATO.

"But remember the Cuban Missile Crisis!" Uh, yeah. Do you remember the Soviets were an aggressive expansionist totalitarian regime? NATO is many things, but not that. Also, do you remember, we never actually pulled the trigger and invaded Cuba back in 1962, sort of a difference that might be important in your analogy.

Posted by: Match Checksout at March 01, 2022 03:13 PM (dYe5S)

360 "Ukranian City of Kharkiv Decimated by Russian Terror-Bombing; Transgenders Hardest Hit"

Today on NPR they were claiming that African citizens caught in the war zone were hardest hit because of war and racism but mostly racism. Yes they really said that

Posted by: dri at March 01, 2022 03:13 PM (T8So0)

361 whig Putin is no outlier on this. Russia's dislike, rising over time and with the country in question to actual use of force, over NATO expansion in the east, is a consensus view, more like an instinct, in Russian leadership.

And it's no mystery as to why.

There was bitching and caterwauling but no action when Poland and the Baltics went NATO. Which was predictable. Romania, Hungary, Czechs, Bulgaria - meh. Non-contiguous, not that big a deal.

Ukraine. Very distinctive, whole different ball game. Grabbing Crimea apparently didn't succeed in providing a clue to the west (including last administration) that for Moscow, Ukraine is, um, "different".

Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2022 03:13 PM (OTzUX)

362 350 I think we're seeing an authoratarian Nationalist vs Globalist Oligarchs here.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (eeRB6)

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I'm going to call it dueling feudal lords vying for extra bits of land and property.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 03:13 PM (LvTSG)

363 Sorry, maybe because of my military background (well, Air Force) or because I had to do casualty notification or I had to escort airmen to the brig but I am not long on sympathy to civilians in war zones when I know there is an active information operation to drag our forces into potentially continental warfare.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 01, 2022 03:13 PM (czHML)

364 The russian tank column is a bunch of Trabis with wooden shells.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 03:14 PM (qnVBz)

365 So will dopey Joe decide to stop importing Russian Oil?

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 01, 2022 03:14 PM (LQjWA)

366 What is McConnell's take on this Ukraine dust up? Because whatever it is, I oppose it.

Posted by: Capital Eff - Ezekiel 38 Times at March 01, 2022 03:14 PM (GYllL)

367 I think we're seeing an authoratarian Nationalist vs Globalist Oligarchs here.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (eeRB6)

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I'm going to call it dueling feudal lords vying for extra bits of land and property.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 03:13 PM (LvTSG)

Yeah, I'll buy that too. Hapsburgs vs Tsars

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 01, 2022 03:14 PM (eeRB6)

368 Put me down for the "It's all an op." category. I'm firmly I that camp. Good grief the histrionics have been histrionic. Has the pope said anything yet to further cement me into the it's an op category.

We need and Admiral Akbar meme with "It's an op!"

Posted by: InCali at March 01, 2022 03:14 PM (jZOLv)

369 351

Moldova is a symphony, isn't it?

Posted by: Ziba at March 01, 2022 03:14 PM (S1hrL)

370 Ukraine treats mentally ill people like mentally ill people. Another plus in their column...

Posted by: steevy at March 01, 2022 03:14 PM (CYnTg)

371 346 I'm trying real hard to hate the rookies, but almost every super-villain in the world is on the side of Ukraine
Posted by: x at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (uQFwj)

rooskies?

Posted by: m at March 01, 2022 03:14 PM (k8wcX)

372 Putin is an enemy to globalists.

I hope Russia wins soon and I hope they lop Zelenskyy's head off and spike it on a pike as a warning to the globalists, as punishment for getting his people bombed instead of surrendering, and for his corrupt complicity to enrich leftist American politicians and the attempted sabotage of the Trump presidency.

And I don't care if they drag Zelenskyy's relatives out of their homes, along with his secret homosexual lovers, and execute them.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 01, 2022 03:14 PM (1D2/j)

373 >>Oh yeah, forgot about that -- got very little media coverage, but Kazakhstan has a ton of precious metals, right?

Look at it's location relative to Russia and China not to mention the Caspian Sea.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2022 03:14 PM (ZLI7S)

374 USA trucker convoy heading to Indianapolis at the moment.

Heard the SOTU is 8:55p eastern.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 01, 2022 03:15 PM (ufFY8)

375 It's in the Russian demands in negotiations.

1. Ukraine not in NATO
2. Ukraine "neutral" (unclear what this means cause media)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Allow me to translate -
1. Ukraine not in NATO, because I intend to take it sooner or later. It is mine, so hands off.
2. Like Belarus!

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2022 03:15 PM (EX6K8)

376 362 350 I think we're seeing an authoratarian Nationalist vs Globalist Oligarchs here.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (eeRB6)

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I'm going to call it dueling feudal lords vying for extra bits of land and property.
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You are seeing a Banker's War. No matter who wins they make money.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 01, 2022 03:15 PM (LQjWA)

377 Also, what is Moldova and why does it exist?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (yQpMk)

I think Moldova was one of Seinfeld's girlfriends.

Posted by: spindrift at March 01, 2022 03:15 PM (h5TKJ)

378 Lee Smith has a good rundown here about how Obama & Biden helped create this mess through taking down the elected Ukraine government and installing the people they wanted:

https://bit.ly/3tlzBQV

Which, when I think about it, seems like as big an attack on Ukraine's Holy Sovereignty as what the Russians are doing right now.

Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 03:15 PM (BJKQV)

379 356 Of course western Europe should be doing the heavy lifting, but we have allowed them to rely on our might for too long. Trump tried to fix it, but it was a bit too late for Ukraine.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (XIJ/X)

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"To effectively defend ourselves against Russia, we are going to have to spend 10% of our GDP on defense going forward. All y'all old people over 50? You get no healthcare. Except the rich people. You can get healthcare."
-Germany, soon

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 03:15 PM (LvTSG)

380 > According to Human Rights Watch, the government mandated that transgender people undergo extensive psychiatric observation and under gender reassignment surgery to get legal documents that aligned with their gender.

This is hilarious.
If "gender reassignment surgery" is allowed at all, this is the way it should be. Based on what I've read from the testimony of people who decided they wanted to "transition back", I gather the US's version is more like, "Do you feel like you're the opposite sex? Are you sure? OK, let's chop off some bits!"

Posted by: bonhomme at March 01, 2022 03:15 PM (x980n)

381

Soooo, where's Joe Biden to stop this, act all tough and take Vlad out back, kick his ass.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at March 01, 2022 03:16 PM (XnbJC)

382 Moldova is a symphony, isn't it?
Posted by: Ziba at March 01, 2022 03:14 PM (S1hrL)

I thought Moldova was one of those countries with fairy tale castles and men with epaulets and braid.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at March 01, 2022 03:16 PM (eGTCV)

383 359 The whole "But NATO expansion!" thing ignores whether it is rational/reasonable to invade another country just because it wants to join NATO.

Posted by: Match Checksout at March 01, 2022 03:13 PM (dYe5S)

So there's a global empire that can punk you whenever it feels like that decides to invite your neighbor who you have historical territorial disputes(all neighboring countries tend to have these disputes) into their alliance. Out of 10, how concerned are you?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 01, 2022 03:16 PM (z5Vrg)

384 If we are in the Matrix, why the hell would they make FJB president? Why not Kate Upton. And every Tuesday is topless press briefing.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 03:16 PM (qnVBz)

385 363 Sorry, maybe because of my military background (well, Air Force) or because I had to do casualty notification or I had to escort airmen to the brig but I am not long on sympathy to civilians in war zones when I know there is an active information operation to drag our forces into potentially continental warfare.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 01, 2022 03:13 PM (czHML)

I'd say you have credibility on these things.

Posted by: m at March 01, 2022 03:16 PM (k8wcX)

386 Kharkiv is alleged to be one of several Ukrainian sites for US bioweapon labs. Will this "conspiracy theory" pan out or not?

The pictures show a fckton more kablooie than some lab, but then again, these are from the media whores who brought you OMG pee pee hookers.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 01, 2022 03:16 PM (llON8)

387 Heard the SOTU is 8:55p eastern.
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So, following Tucker Carlson.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 01, 2022 03:17 PM (LQjWA)

388 The Bidet is opening the faucet on the Strategic Oil Reserve so that gas prices will go down a couple of cents. Let us rejoice in his wisdom.

Posted by: Ziba at March 01, 2022 03:17 PM (S1hrL)

389 yes, rooskies

Posted by: x at March 01, 2022 03:17 PM (uQFwj)

390 I'm going to call it dueling feudal lords vying for extra bits of land and property.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 03:13 PM (LvTSG)

Yup. This whole thing is getting wayyyyy overanalyzed.

Thug wants a thing. Thug sees a way to take thing and get away with it. Thug tries to take thing. That's essentially 95% of human history.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 01, 2022 03:17 PM (6FeV1)

391 The thing is is if Russia wins the get something they do net need that much and that we do not need very much

Posted by: Y5 at March 01, 2022 03:17 PM (Lgohd)

392 That 40-mile convoy north of Kiev has been stalled for two or three days. I don't understand why Ukraine hasn't attacked it.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis

The same thing restricting much of the Russian movement to the roads also restricts the Ukrainians to the roads. Cross country mobility in this weather and land conditions is extremely localized.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2022 03:17 PM (axyOa)

393 Ukraine "neutral" (unclear what this means cause media)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Ukraine is a buffer state - between the EU and Russia. Buffer states should remain as neutral as possible or the cease to be buffer states.

see: https://bit.ly/3tlzBQV

Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 03:17 PM (BJKQV)

394 Ukraine is going to lose this fight, they cannot defeat Russia. Its just a matter of time. Russia won't like, occupy Ukraine and police them forever, they'll just stomp resistance into the ground, set up a government that loves Putin, and leave except for a chunk in the east that they declare now to be part of Russia.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2022 03:11 PM (KZzsI)

All true. Of course that little dustup that Obummer sponsored in 2014 ousting the sitting prez of Ukraine has something to do with this excursion too. Plus, Ukraine/NATO would be a dagger pointed at the Russia's Caspian Region oil fields.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at March 01, 2022 03:18 PM (/7oeZ)

395 331 OK. I just recall and old SPI game named Kharkov, and was thinking this was the same place.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
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The scene of titanic tank battles between the USSR and Germany in WWII and Germany's loss along with failure to win Stalingrad and Leningrad started the long retreat into defeat.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:09 PM (Iq9dF)

No that was Kursk in July 43. Kharkov was a great German victory in March 1943. After the surrender at Stalingrad of the 6th army the Germans were looking at having another army cut off (trapped) in the Caucasus mountains. General von Mannstein was able to save the day by a counterattack retaking Kharkov, shortening and stabilizing the front, called the back hand blow.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at March 01, 2022 03:18 PM (vN+oL)

396 It will be interesting to see how they time the meds to make FJB coherent at 9pm/

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 01, 2022 03:18 PM (PiwSw)

397 >>Also, apparently "newspeople" and their bosses think about sex A LOT. Like, constantly. They ruin their careers, reputations and marriages over it.

Tell me about it.

Posted by: zombie chris burrous at March 01, 2022 03:18 PM (m/Gc2)

398 Oh Moldava, oh Moldava
You border on the Bourlivec
And your chief export is (checks notes) food and beverages?

That's what it says. Bad notes!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 01, 2022 03:18 PM (HsAzN)

399 374 USA trucker convoy heading to Indianapolis at the moment.

Heard the SOTU is 8:55p eastern.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 01, 2022 03:15 PM (ufFY

President Joe Biden will deliver his first State of the Union address on March 1, 2022 at 9 PM EST.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/
state-of-the-union-2022/

Posted by: m at March 01, 2022 03:18 PM (k8wcX)

400 Allow me to translate -
1. Ukraine not in NATO, because I intend to take it sooner or later. It is mine, so hands off.
2. Like Belarus!

Gasp! Russia intends to dominate territories that were part of the USSR and the Russian empire before that? How alarming.

Remind me, how did those fellas north of the Mason-Dixon line reacted when the South said it was leaving?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at March 01, 2022 03:18 PM (KFhLj)

401 dislike the idea that Putin represents the pinnacle of nationalism when in fact he is a typical kleptocrat authoritarian. Stashing billions overseas in accounts over time is kind of a tell.

Understandable, but he's the only one putting up a real fight against the interests of the globalists. Kind of like many of us are happy with Trump in the absence of anyone with more fight in them.

Posted by: Methos at March 01, 2022 03:18 PM (kOpft)

402 >>The whole "But NATO expansion!" thing ignores whether it is rational/reasonable to invade another country just because it wants to join NATO.

Your argument about what is rational and reasonable has nothing to do with what Putin considers rational and reasonable. It doesn't matter whether you think he is or isn't, he gets a vote and that need to be considered or you get Ukraine right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (ZLI7S)

403 I wonder if Khaby Lame is going to do a live reaction to the SOTU. I would watch that.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (qnVBz)

404 If we are in the Matrix, why the hell would they make FJB president? Why not Kate Upton. And every Tuesday is topless press briefing.

Because the Matrix was programmed by feminists who want to make sure men can't look at good-looking women.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (ZGrMX)

405 Moldova is basically the hellhole part of Romania that Romania didn't want associated with them anymore.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (6FeV1)

406 Looks like Detroit. On a good day.

Posted by: Wade Hampton at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (Su9Le)

407 393 Ukraine "neutral" (unclear what this means cause media)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Ukraine is a buffer state - between the EU and Russia. Buffer states should remain as neutral as possible or the cease to be buffer states.

see: https://bit.ly/3tlzBQV
Posted by: 29Victor at March 01, 2022 03:17 PM (BJKQV)

That doesn't really tell us what Russia means specifically in terms of neutrality. What would constitute a violation of said neutrality.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (z5Vrg)

408 Critical Drinker is livestreaming with the real Flash Gordon right now:

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The Joe Biden diaper-cam?

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (yWv39)

409 That 40-mile convoy north of Kiev has been stalled for two or three days. I don't understand why Ukraine hasn't attacked it.

They haven't reached the kill box yet.

As William Wallace so famously said, "hold. . . hold. . . "

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (ppL7t)

410 355Sorry. Not buying that line.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Hey. You don't have to buy sh#t. But if you don't understand the mindset of your enemy, you will always lose.

Posted by: Floridachick at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (bTk5A)

411 Story I want to see play out:

Transgender is denied their sex operation because they're unvaxxed.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (KbCG3)

412 Sometimes things have more than two dimensions.

Russia can be right about globalism and degeneracy and the US, but also wrong about invading neighbors.

Just because he is right about some stuff, that does not mean he is the good guy in this. It does not mean that it is in US, or conservative, or Western Civilization's interest to support Putin.

Putin is against US globalism, but he is in favor or European leftism in control of Europe, and China in Charge of everything else. They are both our enemies. I hope they all lose.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (EX6K8)

413 341 How did Moldova get boned out of having a Black Sea port? Also, what is Moldova and why does it exist?

Posted by: G'rump928(c)
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Moldova is located in a bad neighborhood like Ukraine and frequent border instability and the Soviets forcibly tried to separate Moldovian culture from Romania for example using Cyrillic script.

Moldova had its version of being screwed by the Russians with the Trans Dneistr Republic separatist government with Russian peacekeepers keeping Moldova from doing anything about it. Same as Georgia with Abkhazia and Ossetia.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (Iq9dF)

414 Correct me if I am wrong but the only current NATO members that actually touch Russia are Estonia and Latvia way up north, correct?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2022 03:20 PM (yQpMk)

415 See, there are these assumptions people make. No major wars since WWII? Then peace in our time forever. Rich agricultural land? Put up a bunch of houses on it. It's really easy to grow food. Let's just ignore the centuries where war and famine were the norm.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at March 01, 2022 03:20 PM (5HBd1)

416 8:55? He can stay up that late? Have they been doing light therapy to adjust his circadian rhythm?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 01, 2022 03:20 PM (qnVBz)

417 on that note, the future alleged GOP house majority leaders announced his three fold investigation agenda. Weak sauce.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 01, 2022 03:20 PM (ZZK0E)

418 Kazakhstan has a ton of precious metals, right?

Yes, and gobs of uranium too.

Posted by: Clutch at March 01, 2022 03:20 PM (9UmRs)

419 396 It will be interesting to see how they time the meds to make FJB coherent at 9pm/
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It would be fun to let loose a bunch of cats with lasers on their heads while Jellyhead is speaking.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 01, 2022 03:20 PM (LQjWA)

420 Also, apparently "newspeople" and their bosses think about sex A LOT. Like, constantly. They ruin their careers, reputations and marriages over it.

Journalists were pushing the "oh no, what if Ukraine has trannies?" angle as soon as Saturday. Same day Nikole Hannah-Jones said Ukraine doesn't matter because they ain't black.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 01, 2022 03:20 PM (ZGrMX)

421 The whole "But NATO expansion!" thing ignores whether it is rational/reasonable to invade another country just because it wants to join NATO.

Your argument about what is rational and reasonable has nothing to do with what Putin considers rational and reasonable. It doesn't matter whether you think he is or isn't, he gets a vote and that need to be considered or you get Ukraine right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (ZLI7S)

Now take out NATO, and insert Al Qaida... and you suddenly have US in combat all over the world.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 03:20 PM (oHd/0)

422 Soooo, where's Joe Biden to stop this, act all tough and take Vlad out back, kick his ass.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at March 01, 2022 03:16 PM (XnbJC)

I have been assured that he is acting brilliantly. Specifics have not been provided.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2022 03:20 PM (Ez6QX)

423 418 Kazakhstan has a ton of precious metals, right?

Yes, and gobs of uranium too.
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They have the largest deposit of nuclear waste in the world.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (LQjWA)

424 >>>So there's a global empire that can punk you whenever it feels like that decides to invite your neighbor who you have historical territorial disputes(all neighboring countries tend to have these disputes) into their alliance. Out of 10, how concerned are you?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Is the "global empire" just an alliance of soft Europeans and a superpower that gave up its last colony 75 years ago and has taken any others (though it has many opportunities and the power to do so)? Then zero concerned.

Posted by: Match Checksout at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (dYe5S)

425 335 So, any word on what is happening with the 'talks' that were supposed to happen between the Ukes and Russia?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (oHd/0)

The Turks put out something not too long casting doubt on those talks happening on Wednesday, saying that Russia has unrealistic demands. Also kind of hard to have peace talks if the capital city and 2nd-largest city are being attacked.

Posted by: Thrawn at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (Rl7KJ)

426 Zelensky is only doing what he needs to in the face of what is appears to be an overwhelming force. It's commendable, and the fact hat he's staying in country in the face of certain death if he's captured isn't something I could see anyone in the White House doing under he same circumstances.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

Word. Our imposters in DC both on the D and R sides would be out of country in a flash drinking a martini before the first bomb hit.

Posted by: Cheri at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (oiNtH)

427 Fyi, when Joe gets the football handed to him in his speech tonight shit is getting interesting

Posted by: Y5 at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (Lgohd)

428 411 Story I want to see play out:

Transgender is denied their sex operation because they're unvaxxed.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (KbCG3)

Will not happen. Exclusions, because reparations.

Posted by: m at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (k8wcX)

429 Just because he is right about some stuff, that does not mean he is the good guy in this. It does not mean that it is in US, or conservative, or Western Civilization's interest to support Putin.

Putin is against US globalism, but he is in favor or European leftism in control of Europe, and China in Charge of everything else. They are both our enemies. I hope they all lose. Posted by: Gentlemen
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Well said.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (Iq9dF)

430 How did Moldova get boned out of having a Black Sea port? Also, what is Moldova and why does it exist?

Posted by: G'rump928(c)
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Moldova is located in a bad neighborhood like Ukraine and frequent border instability and the Soviets forcibly tried to separate Moldovian culture from Romania for example using Cyrillic script.

Moldova had its version of being screwed by the Russians with the Trans Dneistr Republic separatist government with Russian peacekeepers keeping Moldova from doing anything about it. Same as Georgia with Abkhazia and Ossetia.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:19 PM (Iq9dF)

They've always been a landlocked country, relying on rivers for trade. Like Ukraine, they've been a crossroads for invaders for centuries. Poles, Turks, Tartars, Cossacks, so on, so forth.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (eeRB6)

431 Kumala with the keen insights we've come to expect from Willie Brown's spooge rag:

Q: "What's going on in Ukraine?"

Kamala: "Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine so basically that's wrong."

https://bit.ly/3IGRmRm

Posted by: bonhomme at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (x980n)

432 The ABC's of Ukrainian Sex Reassignment Surgery, by V Kutcherkokoff.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (P3gRi)

433 424 Is the "global empire" just an alliance of soft Europeans and a superpower that gave up its last colony 75 years ago and has taken any others (though it has many opportunities and the power to do so)? Then zero concerned.
Posted by: Match Checksout at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (dYe5S)

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In that case: invade.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (LvTSG)

434 I miss 2021.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 01, 2022 03:22 PM (PiwSw)

435 well, now we know the seams on the curveball the dnc will pitch next at Biden's SOTU.

Russia bad, flailingly me must overreact. Trump, you know, denied Ukraine something something, Trump bad, you bad...censor you. We'll use economic sanctions (minus gas buys and minerals) to stop this because Trump withheld nuclear weapons to ukraine.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 01, 2022 03:22 PM (ZZK0E)

436 Correct me if I am wrong but the only current NATO members that actually touch Russia are Estonia and Latvia way up north, correct?
Posted by: G'

Romania, Germany, poland

Posted by: Y5 at March 01, 2022 03:22 PM (Lgohd)

437 Correct me if I am wrong but the only current NATO members that actually touch Russia are Estonia and Latvia way up north, correct?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2022 03:20 PM (yQpMk)

Poland too.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at March 01, 2022 03:22 PM (/7oeZ)

438 372-

In a word, yup.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2022 03:22 PM (YV6PJ)

439 Now take out NATO, and insert Al Qaida... and you suddenly have US in combat all over the world.

I'm just fascinated with people acting like NATO is a world terrorist organization or an evil communist empire.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2022 03:22 PM (KZzsI)

440 Russia has a history of expansion. hence, NATO. Ukraine has a history of Russian tyranny. Don't compare this shit to Monroe Doctrine, or Cuba.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM (EX6K

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The point is NATO expansion is not in American interests.

It is also the casus belli here, the act used to justify a war.

If Russia and Ukraine want to fight over western orientation, go at it. I personally root for the underdog generally, so I hope the Ukrainians can hold out long enough to expose Russia as weaker than it pretends.

But America has no dog in this fight, and NATO expansion needs to be defeated. More importantly, new American drilling needs to resume (bigly) and the longer Putin has to fight the more obvious it will be to even Demofascists that high oil prices are keeping the war going.

So, from my perspective, a long drawn-out war is the best outcome.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 03:23 PM (dYygG)

441 425 335 So, any word on what is happening with the 'talks' that were supposed to happen between the Ukes and Russia?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 03:10 PM (oHd/0)
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Nada, the Belarus Culture minister was involved which means no serious offer to Ukraine. Probably more like additional demands were delivered.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:23 PM (Iq9dF)

442 That doesn't really tell us what Russia means specifically in terms of neutrality. What would constitute a violation of said neutrality.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Putin put our a 50 page paper in July explaining that Ukraine is part of Russia. (And Lithuania, parts of Poland,....)

That is what it means.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2022 03:23 PM (EX6K8)

443 Rudy found no court or law enforcement agency that would so much as review his findings.
But they DID pull his law license.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 01, 2022 03:23 PM (jTmQV)

444 Is the "global empire" just an alliance of soft Europeans and a superpower that gave up its last colony 75 years ago and has taken any others (though it has many opportunities and the power to do so)? Then zero concerned.
Posted by: Match Checksout at March 01, 2022 03:21 PM (dYe5S)

Gadaffi. Mubarak. Syria. Afghanistan.

Let's add that the global empire of "friends and allies" topples countries in a schizophrenic and incoherent manner.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 01, 2022 03:23 PM (z5Vrg)

445
"Now...how am I supposed to steal any of this?!"
-Jonah Goldberg
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 03:11 PM (LvTSG)

It's easy, bro.

Posted by: Ed Driscoll, Beatles-felcher at March 01, 2022 03:23 PM (n+4am)

446 >>417 on that note, the future alleged GOP house majority leaders announced his three fold investigation agenda. Weak sauce.
Posted by: Tim Riggins

Google Jim will get to the bottom of all of it.

Posted by: Capital Eff - Ezekiel 38 Times at March 01, 2022 03:23 PM (GYllL)

447 So there's a global empire that can punk you whenever it feels like that decides to invite your neighbor who you have historical territorial disputes(all neighboring countries tend to have these disputes) into their alliance. Out of 10, how concerned are you?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

NATO generally doesn't go on territory grabbing escapades.

Russia does.

Posted by: Sweat Hogs at March 01, 2022 03:23 PM (i2zoD)

448 Next up: A new history detailing the suffering of transgenders at the Battle of Stalingrad!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2022 03:24 PM (I2/tG)

449 >>>And I don't recall Zelensky 'begging' to be a part of NATO, because in fact it was Preznit Retard that offered it to him late last year and up unitl the fight started, Zelensky still hadn't accepted the offer.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 01, 2022 03:11 PM (UFP5z)
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Ukraine is not longer useful to DeepState so it is time to get rid of it just as the commies and totalitarians always get rid of their useful idiots.

Preznit Retard aka deepstate offered up NATO to light Putin's short fuse.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 01, 2022 03:24 PM (XbH2s)

450 Whatever happened to the 'sonofabitch' Ukrainian AG bai-din had fired before he would hand over a freight train of U.S. taxpayer money to the 'preferred' Ukrainian crook?

Posted by: Eromero at March 01, 2022 03:24 PM (0OP+5)

451 let's ignore how I called parents domestic terrorists, everyone is a white supremacist who are evil and the greatest threat while pushing super-raycis CRT while lying that it's not CRT...and how I let Canada become a totalitarian state to crush bad-protests.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 01, 2022 03:24 PM (ZZK0E)

452 Hey. You don't have to buy sh#t. But if you don't understand the mindset of your enemy, you will always lose.

If you think the mindset of a murderous former KGB officer is that he is out to form a country around the Orthodox Church, I don't what else to tell you.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 01, 2022 03:24 PM (ppL7t)

453 Nood NY clot shots

Posted by: micky at March 01, 2022 03:24 PM (3byMq)

454 Correct me if I am wrong but the only current NATO members that actually touch Russia are Estonia and Latvia way up north, correct?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2022 03:20 PM (yQpMk)

Poland too.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at March 01, 2022 03:22 PM (/7oeZ)
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All three Scandinavian countries are thinking of joining, Norway being the most interested.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 03:25 PM (dYygG)

455
Russia needs a bloody nose.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 01, 2022 03:25 PM (XbH2s)

456 Google Jim will get to the bottom of all of it.
Posted by: Capital Eff -

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the benefit of 60 new GOP house members is they may be based enough to demand real leadership.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 01, 2022 03:25 PM (ZZK0E)

457 Red Turban as I've been saying since this started, and even again up above, Russia's goal here is quite rational (from its perspective) but also it's very difficult to see how they achieve it.

If you assume a medium-haul perspective (not the war, that won't last that long), then ensuring Ukraine's de facto finlandization (it's not just the neutrality, it's the lack of military robustness/integration with the west) seems feasible, but a lot of work.

Otherwise of course Russia is expediting/reinforcing the trends it feared - thus, paradox.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2022 03:25 PM (OTzUX)

458 Nude flu

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2022 03:25 PM (yQpMk)

459 Russia needs a bloody nose.

Posted by: Braenyard

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who cares. Let's worry about our own invasion at the southern border.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 01, 2022 03:25 PM (ZZK0E)

460 Your argument about what is rational and reasonable has nothing to do with what Putin considers rational and reasonable. It doesn't matter whether you think he is or isn't, he gets a vote and that need to be considered or you get Ukraine right now.
Posted by: JackStraw

preview of coming attractions to the Baltic states and easter Poland

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 01, 2022 03:25 PM (VYjdj)

461 447 So there's a global empire that can punk you whenever it feels like that decides to invite your neighbor who you have historical territorial disputes(all neighboring countries tend to have these disputes) into their alliance. Out of 10, how concerned are you?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

NATO generally doesn't go on territory grabbing escapades.

Russia does.
Posted by: Sweat Hogs at March 01, 2022 03:23 PM (i2zoD)

So we might not formally annex Russia but just overthrow their government. No biggie right?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 01, 2022 03:25 PM (z5Vrg)

462 For those of you who don't know what a "felcher" is, please do not look it up.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 01, 2022 03:26 PM (PiwSw)

463 >>> 422 Soooo, where's Joe Biden to stop this, act all tough and take Vlad out back, kick his ass.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at March 01, 2022 03:16 PM (XnbJC)

I have been assured that he is acting brilliantly. Specifics have not been provided.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2022 03:20 PM (Ez6QX)

He makes it look easy, too!

Posted by: This... is XiNN at March 01, 2022 03:26 PM (llON8)

464 Am I the only one that thinks it's funny that Ukraine probably went into this Biden administration thinking that he would back them up and support them after all they've done allowing Hunter so much grift and 'the big guy' getting 10% of that?

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 01, 2022 03:26 PM (Zz0t1)

465 Finland also.

Putin's got them all scared shitless.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 01, 2022 03:26 PM (XbH2s)

466 Seems like it would be fitting for the Ukranian government to release extensive files and documentation showing financial activities of Deep State types through their country over recent decades. Since it got them basically nothing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2022 03:26 PM (KZzsI)

467 >>>Now take out NATO, and insert Al Qaida... and you suddenly have US in combat all over the world.
Posted by: Romeo13

Right. If we change everything, then everything changes. Love this argument style, "But what if NATO was actually a terrorist organization?" But it's not, so what does leave you?

Posted by: Match Checksout at March 01, 2022 03:26 PM (dYe5S)

468 I miss 2021.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 01, 2022 03:22 PM

These are the good old days.

Posted by: 2023 at March 01, 2022 03:27 PM (a3Q+t)

469 Maybe you all are forgetting that Russia has been harassing the world for decades.

In my HS, a teacher went to Russia over summer break as part of one of their programs in the 70s. They have been spreading their hateful marxist, antifa, blm,... seeds for decades. They are still funding this shit.

How do you think this shit came to be?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 01, 2022 03:27 PM (EX6K8)

470 And just like that, American Communist were right that a peace-loving Russia deserved a buffer against the capitalist West because Russia had always historically been attacked from the West.

Posted by: Forest Hump at March 01, 2022 03:27 PM (UHVv4)

471 CREATING the conditions whereby the Geneva Convention is no longer in effect? As they are UNUNIFORMED COMBATANTS?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The West is now talking about creating an insurgency, which once more, throws Geneva right out the F'n Window.
Posted by: Romeo13

This is just stupid.

Russians giving a single shit about anything but their own interests? You're delusional.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 01, 2022 03:27 PM (VYjdj)

472 The point is NATO expansion is not in American interests.

It is also the casus belli here, the act used to justify a war.
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If you are arguing that, then Putin will attack the US because apparently Biden is the one that invited Zelensky back in December.

And no, joining a treaty system is not considered an act of war under international law nor even supported under the Just War doctrine.
In essence, what Russia did is the same as shooting someone on the street that you have a past bad history with but the other guy never got out his gun. Preemptive war without evidence that the other guy was planning to war on you first in the near future is NOT supported by international law.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:27 PM (Iq9dF)

473 Poland too.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at March 01, 2022 03:22 PM (/7oeZ)

It doesn't appear to me that it does. It borders Belarus and Ukraine but not Russia on the map I am looking at.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2022 03:28 PM (yQpMk)

474 464

No, you're not.

Posted by: Ziba at March 01, 2022 03:28 PM (S1hrL)

475 439 Now take out NATO, and insert Al Qaida... and you suddenly have US in combat all over the world.

I'm just fascinated with people acting like NATO is a world terrorist organization or an evil communist empire.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2022 03:22 PM (KZzsI)

As far as Russia is concerned, NATO is an existential threat. I never said NATO was EVIL, and to try to insinuate that, while a clever Propaganda tool, is a straw man.

Nation States and Leaders all have outlooks. We considered Al Q a threat, so we invaded multiple countries, and are STILL supposedly at war with them and their allies 20 years later...

NATO was created for ONE purpose and one purpose only. To combat against the Soviet Union... Russia inherited that. Of course they see it as a Threat.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 03:28 PM (oHd/0)

476 The Germans are increasing the military spending by 100B euros ($113B US).

But on the energy front, Germany is in big trouble

LINK: https://tinyurl.com/2as7s2uy

Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2022 03:28 PM (6eRlp)

477 @464 - it's funny because you'd think the world would have a rule that explicitly states "Never trust any Democrat."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 01, 2022 03:29 PM (p+1gI)

478 459 Russia needs a bloody nose.
Posted by: Braenyard
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who cares. Let's worry about our own invasion at the southern border.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 01, 2022 03:25 PM (ZZK0E)
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Biden should fulfill Trump's promise and blast those golden domes.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 01, 2022 03:29 PM (XbH2s)

479 Russia has a history of expansion. hence, NATO. Ukraine has a history of Russian tyranny. Don't compare this shit to Monroe Doctrine, or Cuba.

USA has a recent history of toppling anyone we don't like by spook or by force for whatever reasons are convenient at the time. NATO, because of US participation, is therefore legitimately seen as a threat by anyone not in the club.

Posted by: Methos at March 01, 2022 03:29 PM (kOpft)

480 For those of you who don't know what a "felcher" is, please do not look it up.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 01, 2022 03:26 PM

This.

Posted by: Cleveland Steamer at March 01, 2022 03:29 PM (a3Q+t)

481 You are seeing a Banker's War. No matter who wins they make money.
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I watched a documentary on the origins of Nazism last night. The Dawes Plan insured that Germany would survive to pay reparations to Britain so Britain could repay its loans to US banks.

Funny how these things work.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2022 03:29 PM (sWM8x)

482 from a Lee Smith article linked here yesterday

"More broadly, the use of Ukraine as a goad against enemies domestic and foreign has recklessly damaged the failing yet necessary European security architecture that America spent 75 years building and maintaining.

Why can't the American security establishment shoulder responsibility for its role in the tragedy unfolding in Ukraine? Because to discuss American responsibility openly would mean exposing the national security establishment's role in two separate, destructive coups: the first, in 2014, targeting the government of Ukraine, and the second, starting two years later, the government of the United States."

Tablet Mag link
https://is.gd/xLq724

Posted by: illiniwek at March 01, 2022 03:30 PM (Cus5s)

483 NATO was created for ONE purpose and one purpose only.

To keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 01, 2022 03:31 PM (yQpMk)

484 And I don't recall Zelensky 'begging' to be a part of NATO, because in fact it was Preznit Retard that offered it to him late last year and up unitl the fight started, Zelensky still hadn't accepted the offer.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 01, 2022 03:11 PM (UFP5z)

That's probably because you don't know wtf you are talking about.

tinyurl.com/2p97uh85

Posted by: ryukyu at March 01, 2022 03:31 PM (4n6fw)

485 And no, joining a treaty system is not considered an act of war under international law nor even supported under the Just War doctrine.
In essence, what Russia did is the same as shooting someone on the street that you have a past bad history with but the other guy never got out his gun. Preemptive war without evidence that the other guy was planning to war on you first in the near future is NOT supported by international law.

Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:27 PM (Iq9dF)

Maybe it's a Russian thing. They have always viewed NATO as offensive and not defensive in nature. Or maybe they want to reserve the right to invade anyone who borders them. I'll believe that, too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 01, 2022 03:31 PM (eeRB6)

486 During the SOTU, Retardo has to stop. The assigned officer whispers in his ear, Retardo opens the football. Retardo reaches into his jacket, breaks out an encapsulated card and breaks it open. Smiling, he shows everybody his prize Darryl Strawberry rookie card.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 01, 2022 03:31 PM (lz5hY)

487 Will say up to this been fairly neutral, start bombing civilians changes that.

Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 01, 2022 03:31 PM (5Pk7W)

488 Well, I've been called delusional and evil in this thread.

Nice!

It's almost like I'm back posting at Hot Gas....

Bye.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 03:32 PM (oHd/0)

489 465 Finland also.

Putin's got them all scared shitless.

Posted by: Braenyard

Didn't they elect an all woke all female cabinet in their last election? Then proceeded to fly into the country male Islamic refugees

Posted by: Floridachick at March 01, 2022 03:32 PM (bTk5A)

490 Transgender acceptance in Ukraine is not widespread, and changing legal documents to match gender requires a long process with psychiatric examinations.
____________

I'm liking Ukraine more and more.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 01, 2022 02:37 PM (YqDXo)

Transgender acceptance in the USA and Canada is not exactly widespread, either. Confined mostly to the loony Left, and the Media. But I repeat myself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2022 03:32 PM (P3gRi)

491 Now I'm connected

Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 01, 2022 03:32 PM (2JoB8)

492 From the dw.com article I linked above:

"Astora is a subsidiary of the Russian energy giant Gazprom, and it owns more than a third of all German gas storage facilities. All the sites have one thing in common: they are currently almost empty with levels down to 10% or less of capacity."

Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2022 03:32 PM (6eRlp)

493 NATO was created for ONE purpose and one purpose only. To combat against the Soviet Union... Russia inherited that. Of course they see it as a Threat.
Posted by: Romeo13

And that means the same rationale applies to Poland and the Baltic states.

Poland is adjancent to Russia's puppet state, Belarus,which has already been attacking Poland's borders, using 'migrants'.

And the three Baltic states are adjacent to Russia and Belarus.

By this 'logic' , NATO should pull out and abandon them as well.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 01, 2022 03:33 PM (VYjdj)

494 Cheri: "Word. Our imposters in DC both on the D and R sides would be out of country in a flash drinking a martini before the first bomb hit."

I'm envisioning AOC, Pelosi, and Graham here. The shrieking would be historic. The only thing grander would be the number of human shields they'd amass.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at March 01, 2022 03:33 PM (aXxgO)

495 >>>NATO was created for ONE purpose and one purpose only. To combat against the Soviet Union... Russia inherited that. Of course they see it as a Threat.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 01, 2022 03:28 PM (oHd/0)
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NATO was created as a defense against crazy aggressive Russians.

Forget NATO, Putin's gone rogue and is not going to stop consuming nation states until he is stopped.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 01, 2022 03:33 PM (XbH2s)

496 "Guys! THIS is what I was telling you..." (cackle)

Posted by: Ziba at March 01, 2022 03:34 PM (S1hrL)

497 Well, I've been called delusional and evil in this thread.

Nice!

It's almost like I'm back posting at Hot Gas....

Bye.
Posted by: Romeo13

This ain't an airport. No need to announce anything.

Crash somewhere else.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 01, 2022 03:35 PM (VYjdj)

498 Posted by: whig at March 01, 2022 03:27 PM (Iq9dF)
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On your second point: There is no authority for determining "act of war", no department of acceptable reasons. Putin used it as his justification and that is all that matters: "casus belli", look it up.

On your first point: Could you please restate? I don't understand your point. If you think expanding NATO is in American interests, why?

Posted by: Pfizer CEO at March 01, 2022 03:35 PM (bT14l)

499 "Ukranian City of Kharkiv Decimated by Russian Terror-Bombing; Transgenders Hardest Hit"

Today on NPR they were claiming that African citizens caught in the war zone were hardest hit because of war and racism but mostly racism. Yes they really said that

They need to open a Black Holocaust Museum like they now have in Milwaukee.

Posted by: Jolo at March 01, 2022 03:36 PM (WrMOC)

500 sock change

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 03:36 PM (bT14l)

501 Since I don't want to hear about the Fu anymore, I came here. Are we sure that picture of Kharkiv is not really Los Angeles?

Posted by: wth at March 01, 2022 03:36 PM (v0R5T)

502 My mail order bride better not turn out to be a tranny.

Posted by: wth at March 01, 2022 03:38 PM (v0R5T)

503 483 NATO was created for ONE purpose and one purpose only.

To keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.
Posted by: G'rump

So now the arrogant Germans are up (at your feet or at your throat always applies with them), the Americans are out, and the Russians are in.

Elections have consequences. Everything the left accused Trump of is being carried out by the Biden administration. As expected. I just wasn't expecting a global confrontation with Russia so soon.

Posted by: Floridachick at March 01, 2022 03:38 PM (bTk5A)

504 The United States and its European allies must not build any bases in the former Soviet Union or use those countries for military purposes, warned Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Tuesday.

Lavrov, quoted by Russian state-run news agencies RIA and TASS, said the Kremlin found it unacceptable that some European nations are hosting U.S. nuclear weapons and again said Russia is taking measures to stop Ukraine from obtaining similar weapons. He did not provide evidence for the claim.

"It is high time to bring American nuclear weapons home, and to completely eliminate the infrastructure associated with them in Europe," he said at a U.N. video conference on Tuesday.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 01, 2022 03:39 PM (UHVv4)

505 oh and nood

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 01, 2022 03:39 PM (eeRB6)

506 There's an interesting book about WWI called The Beauty and the Sorrow. The author follows several stories throughout the book and it gives you an idea of how terribly different your life can be, after an event like war. I wish it was required reading.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at March 01, 2022 03:39 PM (5HBd1)

507 I'm just fascinated with people acting like NATO is a world terrorist organization or an evil communist empire.

How many members of NATO have leaders that aren't currently promoting socialism and general depravity?

NATO is not good.

Posted by: Methos at March 01, 2022 03:41 PM (kOpft)

508 The United States and its European allies must not build any bases in the former Soviet Union or use those countries for military purposes, warned Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Tuesday.

This would include the Baltic states.

I'm sure that the Geneva Conventions or the Budapest scrap o' paper got this covered /sarc.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 01, 2022 03:42 PM (VYjdj)

509 Forget NATO, Putin's gone rogue and is not going to stop consuming nation states until he is stopped.
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So tell the French and Germans to engage and if it goes well we will join them.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 01, 2022 03:45 PM (LQjWA)

510
All three Scandinavian countries are thinking of joining, Norway being the most interested.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 03:25 PM

Norway and Denmark have been NATO members ever since it started (1949). Only Sweden isn't currently in.

Posted by: Bigsmith at March 01, 2022 04:06 PM (xcgjm)

511 Probably not, which is why Ukraine will ultimately lose.
CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2022 03:12 PM
I'm not so sure. I'm seeing a lot of anti tank and anti aircraft equipment in the hands of the Ukrainians along with blasted and abandoned armor. I'm also not seeing propaganda from Putin trying to convince the Ukrainians to roll over.

Posted by: Hurricane567 at March 01, 2022 04:17 PM (mhoTd)

512 All wars will be gender fluid and have no impact on the environment. As long as we do that kill the crap out of each other.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at March 01, 2022 04:29 PM (ytSiK)

513 44 "War crime" gets thrown around way too much. Ya know Internet People, some things are just War. War is ugly and hurts people.
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That.

Posted by: Ciampino at March 01, 2022 04:32 PM (qfLjt)

514 51 LGBTOMGWTFBBQ folks?
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BBQ ?
Are we cooking them on a spit now? Yech!
/s

Posted by: Ciampino at March 01, 2022 04:36 PM (qfLjt)

515 55 "War crime" gets thrown around way too much.

Firing cluster bombs into residential neighborhoods generally counts.
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Nope not really, not unless Russia signed on the 'ban cluster munitions' treaty.

Posted by: Ciampino at March 01, 2022 04:40 PM (qfLjt)

516 79 OMG they are using thermobaric weapons! War crimes!

Umm, the US uses them too. We used them in Afghanistan and Iraq.

That's not a defense of Russia just a note on how stupid the media is and propaganda.
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Daisy cutters in Vietnam?
Question - What difference does it make if someone is blown up by TNT or a pressure weapon? Dead is dead.

Posted by: Ciampino at March 01, 2022 04:49 PM (qfLjt)

517 With Belarus helping Russia out in their south, now would be a great time for Poland, Lithuania and Lativia (or as Al Sharpton would say Latvita) to start invading Belarus in the name of the Grand Duchey of Lithuania.

Posted by: Rbastid at March 01, 2022 04:55 PM (1HMYs)

518 Norway and Denmark have been NATO members ever since it started (1949). Only Sweden isn't currently in.
Posted by: Bigsmith at March 01, 2022 04:06 PM (xcgjm)
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Wow- did not know. Thought I read differently. Thanks for the schooling!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 01, 2022 05:00 PM (fbpiH)

519
The firebombing of Japanese cities never led to war crimes trials.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 01, 2022 02:30 PM (LvTSG)

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Pretty sure that led to the Tokyo trials among others.

Posted by: Undocumented at March 01, 2022 05:03 PM (ctNnL)

520 179
>>>Milk, now, is "problematic." Fucking milk.
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Lactose intolerance (LI) is almost unknown in Africa amongst Blacks. Now I spent 10 years in 3 different boarding schools (almost all White - 1500 kids or more in total) and never heard of LI or peanut allergies, in fact PB sandwiches were almost a staple for snacks. A glass of milk was welcomed by all and also used in morning cereals (porridge or cornflakes).

Posted by: Ciampino at March 01, 2022 05:30 PM (qfLjt)

521 We fucked up.

After 9/11 we wanted to get the foreign Muslims who were trying to destroy our way of life with a terror campaign.

So, we authorize the expansion of the surveillance state, because we understood that those expanded powers were to be used against our foreign enemies. And they were, initially..... BUT

Like Otter said, "You fucked up, you trusted us."

Now the surveillance state is using those expanded powers against us.

We can blame ourselves for not listening to Greenwald and the other IC Cassandras. However, I prefer to blame that mothereffer Obama. He was the first one who turned the Bush-era powers against his political opponents. He created the Frankenstein monster that the villagers will need torches and pitchforks to destroy.

Posted by: tommylotto at March 01, 2022 05:37 PM (CRqTc)

522 Mark Warner can eat corn on the cob through a picket fence.

Posted by: Baldy at March 01, 2022 06:16 PM (vyjBu)

523 Reminds me what i saw in Southern Oregon a couple of years ago after a bad fire went through

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at March 01, 2022 06:32 PM (wGqjj)

524 "I have chosen to mirror their tactics. I too will only wage war on my domestic enemies.

And like the left, I will not be diverted by false foreign enemies."

amen brother

Posted by: Shoey77 at March 01, 2022 07:35 PM (fcWVN)

525 Can you tell me sir, why should I trade a tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants a mile away?

Benjamin Martin The Patriot

Posted by: MikeN at March 01, 2022 10:54 PM (o/eHL)

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