Gun Thread: Dark Range Edition
terrible, terrible picture
First up, our pal Scuba_Dude heads to the range with a purpose!
After so many months since I last fired a shot when I was at the TXMoMe, I decided to dust of the Sig case and head to the indoor range close to me. When I got there I decided I wanted to start checking out potential conceal carry firearms. I plan on checking a new one out every time I go to the range. The first one up was a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield in 9mm. I found the gun fit nicely in my right hand but when I would then put my left hand into position my thumb came close to getting into the trigger well. Something to be conscious of in the future. The trigger was decent but the reset just was not as crisp as my Sig. A couple times I thought I had reset the trigger when I had not. and I think that led to one of the rounds being struck but it did not fire. You could see the dimple left by the firing pin on the primer but the round did not go off. I showed it to one of the RSO's who took the round and put it in his gun where it did fire after he pulled the trigger. Strange. I also had problems manipulating the slide lock but I will put that down to me. So my drill was this. Put target at 7 yards and took 14 shots (2 mags) at the center of the target. Then 7 shots one handed in my dominant hand at the head of the target. 7 shots one handed in my weak hand just to the right of the center of the target. Then 7 shots normal stance just above center of target.
I then folded the target and shot at the small circle targets at the bottom. I numbered where each shot had hit. Total of 49 shots at the target.
Next I took out my Sig Sauer P226 Legion RX1 in 9mm and proceeded to do the exact same drill at 7 yards. Only difference was I only took 10 shots (1 mag) for my 1st shots on the target. Then folded the target and shot at the small targets as fast as the range would permit. Left to right on top then left to right on bottom. 10 shots.
I think I did Ok, had a really bad flyer with the Sig weak hand at 7 yards, That hit near the bottom of the target (I circled it) but I think I did a little better when I was shooting at 10 yards.Nice shooting and great report, amigo. Thanks for sending it in!
More Flintlocks
Recently we featured a couple of flintlock shooting videos which always draws considerable interest. Here's a (hour long) video on how they made them in the olden days.
More accurately, more Wayne LaPierre shenanigans? If this is true, it pisses me off, and I am beginning to really, really, really not understand how LaPierre hasn't been kicked to the curb.
Full-Auto 1911
A while back we looked at a fully automatic 1911. Our pal Blasternaz later spoke up saying he knew the guy featured in the video, Bob Ferris, and had actually fired the very weapon! Here are a couple more videos on the gun.
Cigar of the Week
Here is the She Equips Herself girl with some tips on handgun accuracy.
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Bud's Gun Shop
Comments
(Jump to bottom of page)Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:00 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:00 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:00 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:00 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:01 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 07:01 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (9CuDT) at January 23, 2022 07:01 PM (9CuDT)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:01 PM (a3Q+t)
Pew pew pew.
More to follow.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:02 PM (YXwj0)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 23, 2022 07:02 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 07:03 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:01 PM
So you fired prematurely. It happens to the best of us.
Besides, I interpreted it as "One I am". Kind of Seussesque.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:03 PM (a3Q+t)
Weasel, what a difference the back ground color makes! I think gray really made the gun look good IMHO.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:03 PM (mcfjc)
/eyeroll/
There are some electronic word games that will not accept one way or the other of spelling the word-of-which-there-are-50-shades. (Actually, technically, there are 254 shades on a computer, if you exclude full white and full black.)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:04 PM (A2G/3)
aaarr-me-buckos-avast-there-on-focsle.html
Ace needs one, maybe others as well could use a AoSHq stamp
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 07:04 PM (2JoB8)
So all is good
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:04 PM (YXwj0)
Both are much better than the straight white.
Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 07:05 PM (eYV9L)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:06 PM (0OP+5)
Another excellent thread. Thanxs!
Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 07:06 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Josh Brolin at January 23, 2022 07:06 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 23, 2022 07:07 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 07:08 PM (Wj/z9)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2022 07:08 PM (mD/uy)
But, not bad groupings at all. If anything, with that weapon it seems your weak hand is steadier - all left-right, compared to the head group.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:08 PM (A2G/3)
And it sounds like this stuff is coming out of the NYS lawsuit against the NRA, so there is that. How much bad stuff leaked verses good stuff.
At this point in time I just can't trust the NRA. But that is my opinion, I could be wrong.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:09 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 23, 2022 07:09 PM (v23vE)
Posted by: redchief at January 23, 2022 07:10 PM (Kab4E)
Weasel, I actually have the Gunsmith of Williamsburg on VHS somewhere. Excellent video choice.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 23, 2022 07:10 PM (RkC6l)
I wonder.... Has anyone actually spent time and effort looking into the other largish 2A organizations? Or is NRA drawing ALL the fire?
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:11 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:11 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:12 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:13 PM (0OP+5)
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I'm a life member and mine said the same thing.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:14 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 07:15 PM (eYV9L)
Wayne LaPenis is just like all the rest of the grifter class...private jets, whores and tailor made suits using other people's money and that's just on weekdays. Until he is gone, I give them no money. Old bastard needs to go away already.
Jerry knows his shit. Listen to him.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 23, 2022 07:15 PM (R/m4+)
I would say you are correct, I can read English and I can speak English, just do not ask me to write a grammatically correct sentence.
But it would be one handed dominant, one handed weak.
And I was surprised that I shot the M&P better one handed weak than I did one handed dominant.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:15 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:13 PM
I believe the phrase "live cover" entered The Horde's lexicon this week.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:15 PM (a3Q+t)
I wonder.... Has anyone actually spent time and effort looking into the other largish 2A organizations? Or is NRA drawing ALL the fire?
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:11 PM (A2G/3)
Second Amendment Foundation
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (0OP+5)
Thanks for bringing up the "Gunsmith of Williamsburg" video. I've mentioned it in past threads. My VHS copy just plain wore out. The DVD version is holding up so far. And it is available on YT. I probably watch it a few times a year to remind myself to take the time to do a good job with firearm related matters. Plus, I enjoy the David Brinkley narration.
The first time I went to Colonial Williamsburg the rifle Gussler made was still on display. It is a masterpiece. Not sure if it is still displayed.
If you get to Williamsburg prepare to spend serious time in the gunsmith shop.
Posted by: JTB at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (Dj+ic)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:13 PM (0OP+5)
frack works.
Posted by: redchief at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (Kab4E)
nttiawwt.
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (12ET2)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at January 23, 2022 07:09 PM
See my response in #36 to GWB :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:17 PM (mcfjc)
I honestly have mixed emotions every time the left gets on their NRA warpath...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 07:17 PM (BFigT)
nttiawwt.
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (12ET2)
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Kinda thought the same!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:17 PM (0IeYL)
Oh, and moar bad news. It does appear that The Arms Room, a rather nice indoor range, store and classroom facility in League City, TX, has gone kerplunkt. It occupied the space left vacant by the very last Circuit City store ever built, and the late William James had bought the building, land and lot next door, in order that the shopping center developer could not ever squeeze him out.
In that, he succeeded, but alas, his heirs seemed to have not been able to keep it going. *sigh*
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 23, 2022 07:18 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 23, 2022 07:19 PM (Dj+ic)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 23, 2022 07:20 PM (EZebt)
Thanks Weasel.
My favorite part was the shower of casings after each burst. It's like a party!
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM (sxkMH)
I just had renewed and a month later they sent a letter telling me it was gonna be expired soon. That did it. Eff those people. Then I find out this useless dork is using the money to play around? No thanks.
I also quite GOA because (get this) they send you letters with big GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA on the envelope. Nothing like telling the world that here's where a gun owner lives. I told them to take me off their lists and why and they did do that. I don't think they changed their policy of putting their name in big letters on the envelope.
What turkeys. Don't they think?
Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM (eYV9L)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 23, 2022 07:02 PM (7bRMQ)
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Thanks. You'll have to pry the GT from my cold, dead fingers!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM (0IeYL)
g'night everyone, & thanks as always, Weasel !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (9CuDT) at January 23, 2022 07:22 PM (9CuDT)
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at January 23, 2022 07:22 PM (dVlo/)
nttiawwt.
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (12ET2)
Well fck you too!
Posted by: Kermit the Frog at January 23, 2022 07:23 PM (llON8)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2022 07:23 PM (63Dwl)
A week or so after Corsicana I met up with CBD at an indoor range by him to return his firearms. We did put a couple down range, including some with my Sig.
My bad, please continue....
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:23 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 07:24 PM (Wj/z9)
Posted by: dartist at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM (+ya+t)
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You filed a false report? YOU FILED A FALSE REPORT?!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM (kyYHi)
I am pretty sure this is how all NGO's operate, and especially Quangos. And foundations, and a lot of corporations too. The "elite" ruling class never miss an opportunity for grift.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM (sxkMH)
https://tinyurl.com/2srtmmjk
(link goes to Breitbart)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM (a3Q+t)
Same here. That 'notice' on the latest American Rifleman really pissed me off. What brain dead ass thought that was a good idea.
We've both been top of the line life members for many years. The NRA used to be in our wills. That changed some time ago.
Posted by: JTB at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM
If you are not careful with your katana you may not have fingers to pry the guns from!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:26 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM
(Hangs head in shame) I guess I will be picking up .22 brass after the next TXMoMe as punishment.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM (mcfjc)
One detail I found rather amusing in it is not gun related. Browning was a Mormon. His father was an early convert and had three wives. John Moses was a son by his second wife. At one point JMB thought about following his father's example and taking a second wife. However, when he told his wife about this idea, her response (according to family tradition) was a very simple one: "Over your dead body." Browning dropped the idea.
Posted by: John F. MacMichael at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM (7mCBs)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM
Living in a non-free state is punishment enough.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 23, 2022 07:29 PM (Dj+ic)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:29 PM (kyYHi)
Posted by: JTB at January 23, 2022 07:29 PM (7EjX1)
Better slightly than the gray and of course the solid white just buries all the detail.
Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 07:29 PM (eYV9L)
I stopped in there a couple of times and they seemed to have very little in the way of inventory. I don't know how you could not make $$ with a gun store these days but I guess not having stuff to sell would do it.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 07:29 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:30 PM (mcfjc)
I put my big-boy pants on and ventured out in 15-degree NH weather. Also, my fleece-lined jeans, my long sleeve t-shirt, my flannel shirt, my parka, my snowboard gloves and my blaze orange wooly watch cap. Quite a fashion figure, huh?
LGS guy sold me some Eley .22 ammo. Match, at $17.50/box, and Team, at $16.00. He wanted me to let me know if they were any good.
Short answer, yes.
Longer answer is real cold weather affects barrels and ammo. Both the Christiansen Ranger and the Ruger Precision Rimfire devoured them both, grouped around 1/2" at 50 yds, but threw an occasional flyer, largely after the barrel cooled when switching to the other rifle.
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:30 PM (12ET2)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2022 07:30 PM (eA1RV)
At the same time I mean...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 07:30 PM (jTmQV)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 23, 2022 07:30 PM (KFhLj)
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Think that'd be a no-go for WW, too. Howdy and welcome to the GT!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:31 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:31 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 23, 2022 07:31 PM (CcOog)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM
If you are not careful with your katana you may not have fingers to pry the guns from!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:26 PM (mcfjc)
Dang, I forgot Weasel's katana! Me and Hogmartin visited a local gubmeister and I got to drool slobber over the gubmeister's katana he had on the wall. Which I could have bought 20 years ago for $800US and didn't. Ouch.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:32 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:32 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: The Blue-Haired Ladies of The Villages at January 23, 2022 07:32 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: Ben Had at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM (Dj+ic)
Is this the time of the year you set aside to clean the rifles and load ammo for when the weather gets warmer?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM (2JoB8)
The test was mostly to see if you can keep the barrel pointed downrange, load and clear the gun.
They had .22 pistols for those that didn't bring their own guns or never shot before. Those lanes moved a bit slower with on the spot training. The takeaway is that these were all volunteers, very helpful, and even if you never shot before you could join the club.
Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM (Xvtje)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:15 PM (mcfjc)
Going to guess it's a difference in grip? something different that shifts how you hold it in each hand, maybe? Or the feel of the trigger, so you're putting your finger on it differently?
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:33 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:34 PM (12ET2)
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 07:34 PM (2JoB8)
Hello Gun nuts!!
No range trip this week.
Bought a tumbler, and some media.
Reloading should be starting soon..
Posted by: jesse in dc at January 23, 2022 07:34 PM (kTRt4)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:34 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (0OP+5)
Do you mean people are investigating them? Or that they investigate others? That was my question: Are other 2A orgs getting investigated and examined the same way the NRA is? Or is it getting all the attention?
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:35 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 07:36 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at January 23, 2022 07:36 PM (dVlo/)
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Good job! What sort of tumbling media are you going to use? I like crushed walnut. If you go that route, buy it from a pet store and not a gun store. You'll save big bucks.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:36 PM (kyYHi)
I keep thinking that when I retire and if I am in Texas that I will hopefully have a nice piece of property where I can sit on the porch and make the hogs and coyotes nervous. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:36 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM (sxkMH)
Brass confetti!
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:36 PM (A2G/3)
So the NRA is just like labor unions in the Northeast.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 23, 2022 07:37 PM (CcOog)
She Equips Herself is lovely. And damn good.
No range again as I'm feeling not great and have been mega exposed to the Rona and don't want to expose other folks.
Can't wait to copy her 3.5, 5, 7, 10, and 15 yard one hole drills. I'll send pics if not too embarrassing.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:37 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:21 PM (0IeYL)
Now you jinxed it!
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:37 PM (A2G/3)
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Both were at the vet yesterday for a nail trim, and WD got a shot. Everyone is healthy!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:38 PM (0IeYL)
-- Eric Hoffer
Under LaPierre, the NRA has firmly entrenched itself in the racket phase. Honestly, I don't know what to do about it. It's the only (nominally) pro-2A organization that has any pull with politicians. And TBF LaPierre isn't doing this on his own; the BoD is stacked with cronies. And the BoD has near-full control of who gets on the BoD. As so many Morons have said about other things, we ain't voting our way out of this.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 07:38 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 23, 2022 07:38 PM (CTJwJ)
I am pretty sure this is how all NGO's operate, and especially Quangos. And foundations, and a lot of corporations too. The "elite" ruling class never miss an opportunity for grift.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM
Wounded Warriors did this after they got big. The wife and I used to give them tons of $$$$ but no more after those stories and videos hit of them taking first class flights, buying silk suits and staying in penthouse rooms for events.
Fortunately most of those people are gone, but the stink remains on the charity and we refuse to donate to them now.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 23, 2022 07:38 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 07:39 PM (9sjiB)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:16 PM (0OP+5)
Do you mean people are investigating them? Or that they investigate others? That was my question: Are other 2A orgs getting investigated and examined the same way the NRA is? Or is it getting all the attention?
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:35 PM (A2G/3)
2A Foundation sues the yankee government on my behalf. Like Texas State Rifle Association, they do more for me than the NRA ever did. And they do it without $3 thousand dollar suits.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:39 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: John F. MacMichael at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM (7mCBs)
Wonder if he ever thought "Never should have taught her to shoot."?
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:39 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:39 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:40 PM (12ET2)
I would have to say it was the grip and the weight. My Sig on the other hand was soooo heavy in my weak hand. My rounds were all over the place.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:41 PM (mcfjc)
Yep! I thought it was interesting as well. Browning's daddy was sure a surprise.
Posted by: JTB at January 23, 2022 07:41 PM (7EjX1)
Those bullets shown with the 1911s. Those aren't .45. What's up?
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:42 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:43 PM (12ET2)
But, a question crossed my mind about CCW and going to the restaurant. Does anyone think seriously about menu selection and how it might impact having to use the firearm?
I'll hang up and listen. Thanks.
Great thread, weasel!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 23, 2022 07:44 PM (5pTK/)
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It's a 1911 chambered in .30-'06.
Kidding.
I use the round to have the Gun sit at an angle in the pic so I don't have to climb up on the kitchen counter.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:45 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:45 PM (0OP+5)
Weird.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 07:45 PM (jTmQV)
g'early evenin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 23, 2022 07:45 PM (DUIap)
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:43 PM (12ET2)
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I thought it was a little snappy!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:46 PM (0IeYL)
Looks like somebody already told you digital camera sensors want white to be a 16% gray. Not sure what you're using for your pix, but even phones have some pretty sophisticated software to fix that shot on the white background - just dial back the shadows (not exposure).
The gray is the best background, too much color transfer/reflection from green - plus if you have a nice wood or G10 grip, the simultaneous contrast will make the colors look way off. You could in fact shoot on a black background and find the gun pops. But the gray card you've got has nice, even lighting and that's good enough IMO. Nice!
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 23, 2022 07:46 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: butch at January 23, 2022 07:46 PM (cHvOo)
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And good job paying attention!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:47 PM (kyYHi)
Likely .223/5.56. You know, for the evil black rifle. Hard to prop up a 1911 with a stubby little .45 ACP.
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:47 PM (12ET2)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:45 PM (0IeYL)
Overalls. Restrict range of motion. Go natural.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:47 PM (0OP+5)
LaPierre knows he's drawing scrutiny and he seems to be daring people to do something about it. But he seems to control the board and has a lock on that flank. Nothing good is going to happen at the NRA until he is gone.
I expect some of these expenses will be reviewed as potential income for different people and that leads to tax fraud and evasion charges.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at January 23, 2022 07:48 PM (+Kpte)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:48 PM (0IeYL)
Very cool pistols. But, no, we did NOT get to shoot them.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:49 PM (9otr5)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:39 PM (0OP+5)
Yeah, that's what I thought you meant. And hearing good things about other orgs is beneficial.
But it sounds like NRA is drawing all the fire at the moment (and, sadly, it sounds like for good reason).
I hope that doesn't mean other orgs might be playing shenanigans but not getting noticed doing so.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:49 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:49 PM (mcfjc)
As a general rule, I pass on the adult beverages when I'm carrying. Which is almost always, so I do my drinking at home.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 07:49 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 23, 2022 07:51 PM (KFhLj)
Resolution of my shelving issue. So quick recap I have a concealed storage shelf that has an electronic RFID lock and the batteries died. There is a socket for an external battery pack to deal with those times the batteries die. This did not work. Support from the manufacturer told me to buy from them a master opener card which is where I left this story a couple of weeks ago. 1/4
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:52 PM (9otr5)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 23, 2022 07:52 PM (jYQlA)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:49 PM (mcfjc)
Grasshopper, you ask the wrong question.
Why NOT?
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:52 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:52 PM (0IeYL)
I tend to flip between the American and Euro versions myself.
Another photo tip - set your camera for spot metering and make sure the spot is on the gun.
Posted by: KCSteve at January 23, 2022 07:53 PM (bxAlI)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2022 07:53 PM (mdjgu)
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:53 PM (9otr5)
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 07:49 PM (nfrXX)
I think he was pondering greasy foods and such. But yes, I normally pass up alcohol eating out now.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:53 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 23, 2022 07:51 PM (KFhLj)
That's about the only way to get paid $15k a MONTH for ANY job.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:54 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:54 PM (9otr5)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:54 PM (0OP+5)
I thought SHOT was open to those in the industry, am I wrong?
Because if it was open to the public I would love to go to one.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:55 PM (mcfjc)
I am looking at the thing now trying to see how I might replace that wooden mount with a 3D printed one that incorporates some type of mechanical failsafe. 4/4
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:55 PM (9otr5)
Posted by: Capital Eff at January 23, 2022 07:56 PM (GYllL)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:54 PM (0OP+5)
Wait there's money involved? Do you get first class tickets as well?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 07:56 PM (hOUT3)
Because if it was open to the public I would love to go to one.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:55 PM
Anyone can go if you claim you are a "journalist". Tons of people get in that way.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 23, 2022 07:57 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:57 PM (9otr5)
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:58 PM (12ET2)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:54 PM (0OP+5)
So you're already doing your part to reduce the rampant criminality.
And I understand your position, entirely. It's a good one.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:58 PM (A2G/3)
:runs
Posted by: Capital Eff at January 23, 2022 07:56 PM (GYllL)
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*GASP!*
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:58 PM (0IeYL)
Likely .223/5.56. You know, for the evil black rifle. Hard to prop up a 1911 with a stubby little .45 ACP.
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 07:47 PM (12ET2)
Neck too long, cartridge too long. 30-06?
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 23, 2022 07:58 PM (SH2Zi)
:runs
Posted by: Capital Eff
It's ok. I love 1911s. The heft in my hand is a constant reminder of their deadly character. And it seems, to me, to steady my hand.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:59 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2022 07:59 PM (ibQSj)
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 23, 2022 07:58 PM (SH2Zi)
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Yep!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:01 PM (0IeYL)
(I never could bring myself to become a lifetime member of NRA. Every time I wanted to I couldn't afford it. When I could afford it, I didn't feel I would get much for it.)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:01 PM (A2G/3)
The only reason this happens is because the IRS, and legislatures, and gov. allows it. There has to be auditing and transparency requirements, as well as justification for extraordinary expenses when spending other people's money.
The reason gov. allows it is because the "right people" are in control and they want to harass deplorables and not their friends. We have built a corrupt society and something has to change.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at January 23, 2022 08:02 PM (sxkMH)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 07:54 PM (0OP+5)
Wait there's money involved? Do you get first class tickets as well?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January
Well yeah. You held up your hand. You promised to 'support and defend', you got paid (not very much to be sure) but you took the money.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:03 PM (0OP+5)
*long sigh*
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 08:03 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 23, 2022 07:58 PM (SH2Zi)
Damn, flounder. Eye for detail!
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 08:04 PM (12ET2)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 07:36 PM (mcfjc)
Buy Dirt!
You can do this in Florida. Well, maybe not so much the coyotes, but Florida has hogs, too.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:04 PM (9otr5)
Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 08:05 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2022 07:59 PM (ibQSj)
I will forego teeth cleanings, dermatologist visits, oil changes, and trips to Whataburger to buy a SA-35.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:06 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:07 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: hubcap at January 23, 2022 08:07 PM (bIz+p)
I have been looking in Florida too, mainly in the Panhandle area where I was born. I am looking for minimum of 2 acres but I would not mind having more. :-)
And I am not looking for any beachfront. Something about hurricanes make me nervous.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 08:08 PM (mcfjc)
When the Obama thing blew the lid of handgun ammo pricing, and then with Joetato and WuHu bringing it back even stronger, ammo pricing tempts me into just selling all three and getting a Sig P229 Nitron.
Two CCW ago, in CO, where you gotta take a one day thing with a certified instructor, the guy leading the class was the chief range guy for the Adams county sheriff department, and on its lead SWAT team. They were first into the Arvada theater where the guy did the batman mass murder.
He carries a Sig P229 and described a hollow point load he always uses that he claims makes it as deadly as most any 45.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 23, 2022 08:08 PM (KiBMU)
:runs
Posted by: Capital Eff
Whaaaaat?
I really don't mind a full-size frame - BUT, your belt better be up to the challenge.
Posted by: The Blue-Haired Ladies of The Villages at January 23, 2022 08:08 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:03 PM (0OP+5)
Oh, that part...
And you are right it wasn't much money...
I could have done better by grifting...
But I can sleep at night this way!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:04 PM (9otr5)
I so want to do this. I need to get the house fixed up so I can unload it and go "work remotely" from somewhere more free. And somewhere I can shoot a rifle on my own property.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: John F. MacMichael at January 23, 2022 07:28 PM (7mCBs)
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I'm going to hazard a guess that the early Mormon theology regarding multiple wives was based in no small part upon actuarial tables that showed that women tended to outlive men and therefore there was a surplus balance of widows vs widowers.
Armed wives could change that equation.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (llXky)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 07:59 PM (U2p+3)
Concur. The heft helps me keep the pistol on target and just feels right when shooting it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (R/m4+)
And his reporting on this case seems to be quoting the NY AG's investigative results. If the reports are right, and I tend to believe G&G was accurately reporting what was filed, it makes this Life Member regret actually becoming a Life Member. I still get tons of calls from NRA, but I keep telling them that GOA is getting my money now until Wayne leaves. I'm disappointed by that since I think NRA has more clout, but Wayne's behavior disgusts me and I don't want anything from me going into his pocket.
Posted by: nerdbert at January 23, 2022 08:10 PM (mayVJ)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 07:53 PM (A2G/3)
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Yup, greasy finger foods, hamburgers, fries, to a lesser extent, tacos, etc.
Great, now I'm hungry.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 23, 2022 08:10 PM (5pTK/)
:runs
Posted by: Capital Eff
I have only shot a 1911 .45 a few times. I was surprised, actually, how easy it was to shoot, and did not think it was heavy (about 1984). Since it shoots a heavier but slower projectile than a 9 mm, it's not hard for a modest built person to shoot.
I have shot a lot of bad 9 mm pistols that I frankly hated, but there are a lot of really fine 9 mm semi-autos that have bigger mags than a typical .45 1911.
I did get to shoot my new Glock 17, Gen 5 last December, and really liked it a lot. Lighter, easy to grip and shoot. Shot great right out of the box.
My son and I shot together at the range, and a funny thing happened. My son is natural left hander, and shot the Glock left handed. He kept rubbing the magazine release button, and after every shot, the Glock would jam, and stovepipe a round. Bothered me really bad, until we figured out what was happening.
So this is not a pistol for left-handed shooters.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at January 23, 2022 08:11 PM (tjZg/)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:11 PM (0IeYL)
I used to buy 5 gallon pails from Graingers, but in Md they were 10 minutes away. I used it in the bead blaster.
The pet store tip is well worth it.
THANKS!!!
Posted by: jesse in dc at January 23, 2022 08:11 PM (kTRt4)
Posted by: The Blue-Haired Ladies of The Villages at January 23, 2022 08:08 PM (mD/uy)
More importantly, your hips/butt/gut better be up to it. My problem is my hips don't hold my pants up, my belt does. So putting a holster on it has been an adventure.
We really need an entire thread on holsters and carry options and such. Maybe it's email time....
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:12 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 23, 2022 08:13 PM (KiBMU)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (llXky)
How so? Arming the wives just makes it even MORE likely the wives will outlive the men....
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:13 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:03 PM (0OP+5)
Oh, that part...
And you are right it wasn't much money...
I could have done better by grifting...
But I can sleep at night this way!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 08:09 PM (hOUT3)
I knew you would see it this way. 'Gather up. Check your cap, mount your bayonet, go forward. They have cheese in their haversacks!'
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:13 PM (0OP+5)
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You bet! I think it's sold as reptile bedding, and you can buy a 20# sack for what you would spend on 3 oz. at the gun store.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:14 PM (0IeYL)
(I never could bring myself to become a lifetime member of NRA. Every time I wanted to I couldn't afford it. When I could afford it, I didn't feel I would get much for it.)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:01 PM
I am an NRA Life Patron member that can actually vote if I go to meetings. They want me to upgrade to Benefactor Life membership for $350, a 75% discount and I get a free Dakota Ridge performance jacket.
The NRA is getting desperate.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 23, 2022 08:15 PM (bVYXr)
Side note on revolvers: lead bullets kind of suck. Even in a snubbie, digging all that lead out requires solvents or extra elbow grease.
One of the nice things about having a magnum-compatible revolver is that you can shoot the weaker rounds (i.e. .38 Special) and then at the end of the session throw some jacketed magnums through as "bore cleaners." This actually works.
I've been hoarding my .32 H&R Magnum rounds, but I'm going to have to touch a few off after using .32 Long because digging that lead out is a pain.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:15 PM (llXky)
Voila! Clean brass. Not as shiny, perhaps, as using corncob, but very clean, very cheaply.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 08:16 PM (OTzUX)
Whatever else the church says is just spin.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 23, 2022 08:16 PM (KiBMU)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:12 PM (A2G/3)
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Y'all send me your ideas and I'll put it together. What have you chosen and why? Links and pics too.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:16 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 08:17 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:13 PM (A2G/3)
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Exactly. Adding a second wife could drastically shorten your life expectancy - especially if she's using a compact Colt 1903 or a Browning 1900, which are much easier for female hands to grasp.
Browning kind of tricked himself on that one.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:17 PM (llXky)
It's already been said, but both of the new background colors in the 1911 photos do a good job of bringing out the details. The original photos do have one point in their favor though, because they make it harder to see the big circular reassembly scratches on the left side of the pistol. The scratches even go up onto the slide! I'm not judging or anything, just saying. And it's JMB's birthday today, too...
Posted by: Lazy Messenger at January 23, 2022 08:18 PM (KP12d)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:18 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 23, 2022 08:18 PM (KFhLj)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:19 PM (0IeYL)
We really need an entire thread on holsters and carry options and such. Maybe it's email time....
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:12 PM (A2G/3)
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Suspenders? Sam Browne belt?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:20 PM (llXky)
Yeah. Well. Today they had 115 grain FMJ for 18.99 a box. But limit one per person.
124 grain hollowpoints were only 19.99 a box. And no limit.
So I got some hollowpoints. I need to stick to the maxim - when you see decent priced ammo, buy it.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:20 PM (9otr5)
That is what I want to do. Enough property so I can have my own private range. I had seen a place about about 40 minutes north of Houston that if I had the money I would have bought. 10 acres of land, mostly wooded. And the house was built in 2017, VERY nice.
But the main reason is most of my life I have lived in close proximity to people and I want space. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 08:21 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 08:21 PM (NacE+)
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I'm just happy the whole contraption wasn't a big waste of money!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:22 PM (0IeYL)
Isn't there some potentially* important case at SCOTUS now? Is whig in the house?
* "potentially" because the court without pausing or breathing hard makes epochal rulings that are not only absurd but also well outside their competence to begin with - but such an easy, actually routine thing like the Second Amendment ..... AWOL for generations, usually won't even consider the cases, and when they do, micron-sized narrow rulings - except for Heller ..... which is toilet paper to the states and inferior courts, so far
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 08:22 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:23 PM (ulKlo)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:17 PM (llXky)
A later chapter in the book pretty well indicates that JMB had a sidepiece while "consulting" with FN in Europe.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 08:23 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 23, 2022 08:24 PM (ikXZL)
I can't shoot the hollow points on the ranges I can currently use (all indoor). So it's not really cheaper.
Unless I go to certain parts of town. Maybe I could get some practice in that way.........
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:24 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:25 PM (E1b6a)
It looks very similar to the one at this link: https://tinyurl.com/3d9x2k6k
I don't think they're worth very much, but it's interesting. It's a pin fire revolver. I believe Claudin also made shotguns, but there's very little information on the internet that I could find.
Posted by: Paco at January 23, 2022 08:25 PM (njExo)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 08:25 PM (OTzUX)
Also, I'm an NRA life member and I have been trying to find out if there are any plans for a member revolt at the annual meeting in Houston.
There is a precedent, going back to the 77 meeting in Cincinatti, led by Harlon Carter. ANyway high time we got rid of La Pierre and his minions.
Posted by: Alamo at January 23, 2022 08:26 PM (ByOZn)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:26 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 07:38 PM (nfrXX)
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Ollie left, Ted Nugent left, that says something.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 08:26 PM (Wj/z9)
We really need an entire thread on holsters and carry options and such. Maybe it's email time....
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:12 PM (A2G/3)---
Suspenders? Sam Browne belt?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:20 PM (llXky)
Shoulder rig for those of us that have no ass. I work in a vest and gunbelt that weighs in at 30+ pounds, I wear a web belt under my pants that holds down my shirt and holds up my gunbelt. Department won't allow suspenders. When I wear jeans I carry on a Halfbreed gunbelt OWB hoslter rig. No matter what firearm 19ll to G48, works ok but still considering a quality suspenders rig. Like I said shoulder holster for assless folk.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:27 PM (0OP+5)
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Howdy and welcome! I recently lost a shooting buddy who was probably a member there.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:28 PM (0IeYL)
Then I come home and start the tatties and neeps and warm up the haggis for Burns Night!
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:28 PM (A2G/3)
Tami, OregonMuse, redc1c4, RIP.
Red emailed me back in '21, looking for a recommendation for a good real estate agent for a possible move to Texas. Alas.
Posted by: callsign claymore at January 23, 2022 08:28 PM (IBCQk)
OT: Goddamn Pixy for introducing me to the world of VTubers. Just...no. Fuck no. Fuuuuuuck no!
Vaguely on topic: I'm wondering why some videos aren't showing up in the post. Are they from something other than Youboob or Twatter? So I'm guessing my adblocker is emblockinating them.
Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 08:29 PM (j95C+)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:30 PM (0IeYL)
Another RO had his new CMP M1 in .308. Beauty. However - en bloc clips wouldn't load. They'd go down in, to a point, but couldn't get them seated all the way. Weird, have never seen this. He single fired, and got his elevation clicks @50 and 100 yds. He's going to consult with CMP this week.
Was able to set up steel on the small range end of the day, had it to myself, and puffed on a nice Avo Classic robusto while practicing with both the XD9 and the Colt Magnum Carry revolver.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 08:30 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:27 PM (0OP+5)
And, of course, that changes how you dress, possibly. But it's been a real consideration of mine. Finding a quality, inexpensive (relatively) leather shoulder holster is a little tough to do online.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:31 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:31 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 08:29 PM (j95C+)
Also, if you're using a VPN, it might block certain ones if it senses you're "out of region" or something.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:32 PM (A2G/3)
A decent human bean would have stepped down long ago for the good of the organization...
What pisses me off is that the NRA belongs to us, the members, not that sleazy grifting jackass.
I hope the AG puts his ass in jail, along with the crooked board members.
I would join the tire iron attitude adjustment raiding party if someone gets it going.
Posted by: jesse in dc at January 23, 2022 08:32 PM (kTRt4)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:25 PM (E1b6a)"
I like the BHP's they introduced. But the price point is nuts. I believe it's double the MSRP of the sa35. Plus they changed the grip dimensions. Think I'll be holding on this one for now too.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:33 PM (ulKlo)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:33 PM (E1b6a)
Sorry to hear you lost a friend. Seems we are suffering too many losses right now (RIP to Oregon Muse, redc1c4, and Tami)
HCSS is a great facility, rifle and pistol ranges, international skeet, trap, sporting clays and five stand. Oh, and an 800 yard rifle range by appointment.
Posted by: Alamo at January 23, 2022 08:33 PM (ByOZn)
Posted by: Alamo at January 23, 2022 08:34 PM (ByOZn)
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Sounds like a great place. Next time you go, take some pictures and send us a range report!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:35 PM (0IeYL)
Actually I need to trash it and build a new one. It's pretty well shot to pieces.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 08:35 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2022 08:35 PM (Xrfse)
Galco Miami Classic.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at January 23, 2022 08:36 PM (dVlo/)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:36 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 08:38 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 08:04 PM (12ET2)
I've loaded a bit of each. You get used to it.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 23, 2022 08:38 PM (SH2Zi)
I handload 32-20 for a 1912 model 92 and a Marlin 1894CL. A great little cartridge. I stay pretty tame with the Winchester, but the Marlin can safely throw a 115 lead GC at 1800 or so. My favorite "walk & shoot" rifle for coyotes, jacks, etc.
Posted by: Alamo at January 23, 2022 08:38 PM (ByOZn)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:39 PM (E1b6a)
First, the Sig. I was shooting my P226 today so it was a good comparo. I'm going to say that as a shooter really not much difference between the two. Despite the polymer frame, very close in heft. And the P226 gives you DA/SA. Then there is the "modularity" of the P320. If you value that, then there it is.
Buying new off the shelf a P320 is a couple hundred less than a new P226, so there is that, too.
Given that I already have the P226 I don't think I would pursue a P320 for purchase. But if I had a space for a full size 9mm in the stable, I think I would.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:39 PM (9otr5)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:32 PM (A2G/3)
I always figured The Internet just assumed we were all from Nauru...
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 23, 2022 08:39 PM (6FeV1)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:40 PM (ulKlo)
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I like a 9mm Sig with that round. I carry a 9mm Sig with that round. The problem is they make that round in .45ACP, too, and it performs even better.
(not to you, just in general) Carry what you shoot well, but don't feel the need to justify what you carry. That guy that you see twice a year at the range isn't carrying your pistol every day and making the decisions for your family. Those are yours and yours alone.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 08:40 PM (mwsJy)
Posted by: WesternSib at January 23, 2022 08:40 PM (687kE)
I sort of presumed that they'd changed to rules to prevent anything like that again. They effectively hobbled Neal Knox for the rest of his life. If there is even a possibility of something, please make sure it gets airtime, here if nowhere else.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 08:41 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 08:41 PM (z8oRC)
Posted by: Alamo at January 23, 2022 08:42 PM (ByOZn)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:42 PM (E1b6a)
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Howdy and welcome to the Gun Thread! I was shooting at Camp Perry once with the son of someone in the NRA Comp Div, and his name was Remington.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:43 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 08:43 PM (mwsJy)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:44 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Eromero
I'm still trying to find suitable dress for summer. If I go the polo not tucked in route, I end up looking like one of the goodfellas.
I suppose I could lose some weight.
What the hell am I saying??
Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2022 08:44 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:45 PM (E1b6a)
LazyMessenger has a box of 1911s that would make all y'all drool. I may have shot all of them. Some are exquisite. They shoot themselves.
I'm spoiled. Between MAE and LazyMessenger, I get to shoot a lot of stuff. So fun. Please. Find shooting buddies. Go shoot. In a range, in the woods, the desert, the snow. Go shoot.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 08:45 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 23, 2022 08:45 PM (KFhLj)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:46 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 07:25 PM (a3Q+t)
Diversity of home gun manufacturing is bad for the gun control crowd:
Myanmar rebels are reportedly using 3d printed arms, (the FGC-9 design) to fight a guerilla war
https://tinyurl.com/2p9c74ze
(what is really interesting is there are a NUMBER of identical articles supposedly written by different authors with identical pictures, tweets and comments about atrocities. This one at least has some analysis and information beyond the apparent press release)
Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2022 08:47 PM (ZMraq)
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Go to Duluth Trading and look at their vests. I bought a couple last year that have become my go-to all-season concealed carry coverups. Their nicer ones work with dress clothes (think Sunday or Wednesday evening church, not suit and tie).
Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 08:48 PM (mwsJy)
As for collectors, they normally go for T and C series Browning's Sure there is other stuff like WW2 era weapons.
Posted by: Quint at January 23, 2022 08:48 PM (pFZ6b)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:45 PM (E1b6a)"
Oh I agree. It to me of people are chasing that unique feel you get with the BHP, stay with it. That will get you loyalty. Eh, I'll probably just get a Colt CUR and customize it anyway...
Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:49 PM (ulKlo)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:31 PM (A2G/3)
By the time I finally got my permit, my waist line had exceeded the point of practical IWB carry. I found Mitch Rosen leather. I have this shoulder rig for 1911. It's pricey at $185, but it's well built and very comfortable.
https://tinyurl.com/2p99kc3w
Posted by: Baron Munchausen at January 23, 2022 08:49 PM (C1NyB)
Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 08:49 PM (axyOa)
I like the M9. It made a better hammer then the P320.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:50 PM (ulKlo)
Need to try that one-hole drill with various handguns, after I rescue them from their watery graves.
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 08:51 PM (12ET2)
Not a bad pistol. But still not my thing.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:51 PM (9otr5)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:52 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: JM in Florida at January 23, 2022 08:52 PM (L7jyl)
I understand that FN changed the guts of the new Hi-Power so field stripping the gun can be done with a flip of a lever instead of removing the slide stop, which required the user to hold the slide just so in order to do this task. Also, there are a few countries that still use the High Power as their issue sidearm; Canada still uses leftover WWII Inglis-made weapons, and Australia still uses FN-made weapons. FN might be trying to pitch the new BHP to military users to replace these old guns.
Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 08:53 PM (NacE+)
Last I checked, years ago, Allessi was still a going concern. Unfortunately Lou passed many years ago.
Posted by: Quint at January 23, 2022 08:54 PM (pFZ6b)
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Howdy and welcome to the Gun Thread!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:54 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at January 23, 2022 08:36 PM (dVlo/)
That ranks in the not-quite-inexpensive. But it looks to be worth investigating. Thanks.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:55 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:55 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: JM in Florida
I had the same issues with mine before the accident.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2022 08:55 PM (mD/uy)
Not a bad pistol. But still not my thing.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 08:51 PM (9otr5)
I have lots of pistols that live in the safe. The G48 with Shield Arms 15 rd mags lives in a Texas 1836 OWB holster on my right hip right now, even though church was done for me at noon.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:56 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Quint at January 23, 2022 08:56 PM (pFZ6b)
Posted by: Gman at January 23, 2022 08:56 PM (hYj23)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:30 PM (0IeYL)
That's weird.
Have you ever considered doing a Gun Thread YouTube video in the form of a VTuber style video? Like a cute anime girl avatar that's heavily armed? You might have to talk in a much higher pitch.
Posted by: Robert, Mr. Bright Idea at January 23, 2022 08:57 PM (wYvhC)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 08:57 PM (E1b6a)
I did order a couple holsters for the P365XL (one OWB, one IWB) so when I manage to get it sighted in I'll be ready to carry it. Maybe next weekend.
Posted by: Arch Stanton at January 23, 2022 08:57 PM (2VTt6)
Posted by: Gman at January 23, 2022 08:56 PM (hYj23)
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Good to hear. It does seem like it's coming back a little at a time. Congratulations on the 10/22!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:58 PM (0IeYL)
Surprisingly, to me the green seems to work well, also.
Nice photos!
Posted by: boynsea at January 23, 2022 08:58 PM (sshap)
Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 08:53 PM (NacE+)"
I think you're right. I also think they'll largely fail. If you look at many of the new service weapons, The FN's I saw can't really compete. The modularity and adaptability of the M17 and M18, they are far superior IMVHO
Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 08:58 PM (ulKlo)
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The videos I have made were hard enough!!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:59 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 23, 2022 08:45 PM (KFhLj)
It's PEOPLLLLLLE!!!!
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:59 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Quint at January 23, 2022 09:00 PM (pFZ6b)
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Bummer! Welcome to the GT, Arch.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:00 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:01 PM (z8oRC)
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Well at least a little better than before! Thanks!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:01 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Quint at January 23, 2022 09:01 PM (pFZ6b)
Steven Camp was the guru of all things Hi Power and his widow has kept his webpage resources on line for it. His book is still in print last time I checked.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:02 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:02 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 08:32 PM (A2G/3)
No VPN.
I'm just going to assume it's NSA spyware just screwing with my phone.
Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 09:03 PM (H8H8A)
Posted by: Baron Munchausen at January 23, 2022 08:49 PM (C1NyB)
They are the only ones I've found asking about your chest size. I like that. (I think most others count on "adjustable" and everything being across the back, so chest size doesn't matter... as much.)
And yes, a little pricey, but worth a look.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:03 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:01 PM (z8oRC
S&W trademark.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:03 PM (4fSQf)
Even if his travel agent looked like She Equips Herself, the salary would be a mite excessive.
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 09:04 PM (12ET2)
Congrats. The 10/22 is high on my "everybody should have one" list. I bought a second one last year that I'm going to build up for my wife. I just got a Boyd's stock and ordered a barrel. Expected wait time 10 weeks! Guess that'll give me plenty of time to round up other parts and send the bolt out for some work.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 09:04 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 09:04 PM (9otr5)
And for some reason, people were discussing 32-20 at the range this week. Probably because one of the Schutzenguilders, who is an amazing expert on historic guns, was there.
On the M1/.308 - whig if you mean the block down inside the magazine, up against the front side, yes, it was there. White, appeared to be plastic, which surprised me, but I have zero background on the .308s.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:04 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:05 PM (9sjiB)
Thanks Weasel for another great thread. Until next week!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM (mcfjc)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM (0IeYL)
I vote YES! Do it, Weasel!
(Pixy merges with Weasel and the seventh seal is broken!)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM (E1b6a)
I know it's gonna be a few hours before I reach fire, so I just chill and think happy thoughts. Like why is that guy beside me shooting an elephant gun on the range and who's brass just went down my shirt.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (4fSQf)
I agree, but the biggest thing in SIG's favor is cost. An M17/M18 is about $750 retail. The new BHP will come in at $1300 retail. Unless the military in question is nostalgia heavy for their old BHP's feel, ergonomics, and history, I'd bet on SIG. Canada and Australia aren't known for spending tons of money on their militaries, let alone military sidearms. Cost may be the deciding factor in any future competition.
Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (NacE+)
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Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:15 PM (llXky)
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Paul Harrell has an interesting video on 38/357 with
semi-wad cutters, wad cutters and +P.
Backs up what JSND said.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (Wj/z9)
Posted by: Draki at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (6K4Co)
I've trashed at least five pro mag magazines. I don't buy them anymore. The Magpul Glock mags are excellent though and 25% cheaper.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (z8oRC)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:07 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Arch Stanton
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FWIW one of the only places I've found that makes molded tuckable IWB holsters with about every available light/laser option is a little gun store near Tryon, NC. Gunners Haven. He has a storefront but also does internet/mail order. Worth a call or email if you are looking for something particular.
He was the only one who could fit my 365XL with the Crimson Trace light (not laser). None of the big names had the mold. Very reasonable, too. Something like $35 or so for the appendix IWB tuckable, and I've worn it daily for two or three years now.
Good guy. Marine IIRC. Highly recommended to anyone looking for holsters.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:08 PM (mwsJy)
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Well then you have come to the right place!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:08 PM (0IeYL)
When he goes on a shopping spree in the store, he buys one of every gun I want.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:09 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:06 PM
Weasel, I may know 'somebody' that might want one of those.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:09 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:10 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:11 PM (OTzUX)
It was a good deal.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 09:11 PM (9otr5)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:11 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:08 PM (mwsJy)
So, just talk slowly when you order?
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:11 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:08 PM (mwsJy)
So, just talk slowly when you order?
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:11 PM (A2G/3)
Lol. Write in crayon.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:12 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:13 PM (z8oRC)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at January 23, 2022 09:13 PM (eeRB6)
Thank you!
I really do appreciate each and every one of you for being here. You all are what makes this fun.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:14 PM (0IeYL)
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Lol. Write in crayon.
*
I don't have the standing to joke, but I think he's sharper than me (not that that's too difficult to achieve).
Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:14 PM (mwsJy)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:15 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Baron Munchausen at January 23, 2022 08:49 PM (C1NyB)
From the description:
"However, at one third the cost of our standard STYLEMASTER"
YIKES! People pay almost $600 for a shoulder holster?!
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:15 PM (A2G/3)
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I'm a life member and mine said the same thing.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 07:14 PM (0IeYL)
Same and same here. Something about "Upgrade your membership". I'm not sending the NRA another nickle while Wayne is there.
Posted by: a.moron at January 23, 2022 09:15 PM (F6Xpw)
In American English it is GRAY.
There you have it, two countries separated by a common language.
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (4fSQf)
Like any .22 that uses 10-22 mags, only use the 10-rounders. All of the larger ones move fore and aft in the mag well, and the angle of stripping makes a huge difference in accuracy. Too much of an angle will scrape a miniscule amount of lead off one side of the bullet, causing a minute wobble.
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (12ET2)
Posted by: a.moron at January 23, 2022 09:15 PM (F6Xpw)
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That's for damn sure.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (0IeYL)
No, you're EXACTLY the person to talk about holsters!
(Is it IWB, OWB, or a pocket holster?)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (A2G/3)
It's my 'if I could only have 1' pistol system.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at January 23, 2022 09:17 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: a.moron at January 23, 2022 09:15 PM (F6Xpw
Not another dime from me.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:17 PM (4fSQf)
I don't think they're worth very much, but it's interesting. It's a pin fire revolver. I believe Claudin also made shotguns, but there's very little information on the internet that I could find.
Posted by: Paco at January 23, 2022 08:25 PM (njExo)
Since there is nothing I love more than searching out old pistols
Littlegun.BE has images of everying: Ferdinand Claudin was a family of armorers
https://tinyurl.com/mtvyn6em
Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2022 09:17 PM (ZMraq)
Have probably mentioned this, but first time I was exploring the Scheel's in Sparks NV, a young clerk in the gun section had the last name of ..... Earp. Perfect. (and yes, he claimed there was direct relation)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:19 PM (OTzUX)
In American English it is GRAY.
There you have it, two countries separated by a common language.
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (qfLjt)
GREY
Posted by: Draki at January 23, 2022 09:19 PM (6K4Co)
When he goes on a shopping spree in the store, he buys one of every gun I want.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:09 PM (4fSQf)
Question- How many shots were fired at Bonnie and Clyde?
Answer- Enough.
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:19 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 09:20 PM (6q/S1)
I guess if you're going to wear it 40 hours a week, it amortizes pretty fast.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 09:20 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:21 PM (E1b6a)
I don't mind either whey.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:21 PM (mwsJy)
(Is it IWB, OWB, or a pocket holster?)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:16 PM (A2G/3)
IWB . Size 16 ( their numbering system for different models that will fit) . I carry the Glock 19. I also have an Uncle Mike's for my Glock 21 when I carry it. Rarely.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:21 PM (z8oRC)
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 09:04 PM (9otr5)
I've stopped buying promags altogether. Their only use now is to produce unexpected stoppages for training.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at January 23, 2022 09:22 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:22 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:19 PM (0OP+5)
Close. The answer we were looking for was 'More than enough' .
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:23 PM (z8oRC)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:23 PM (mwsJy)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:24 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 09:24 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at January 23, 2022 09:24 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:24 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:25 PM (9sjiB)
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Reminds me of the dildo delivered in a plain brown paper wrapper (the shape is obvious) but the delivery van, sitting at the curbside, has that big torpedo on top with the "AMERICAN SEX TOYS INC." signage.
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:25 PM (qfLjt)
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/499151/
Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 09:20 PM (6q/S1)
How much equipment are we going to accidentally leave the Russians?
Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2022 09:26 PM (ZMraq)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 09:26 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:26 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 09:27 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 09:27 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:27 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (exHjb)
Are there that many people that shoot .50 BMG? Or did someone over-produce massively some years ago? Or is there a huge surplus stock for some reason? I know there's a number of guys that shoot it on youtube, but that's not real life.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (A2G/3)
Reminds me of the dildo delivered in a plain brown paper wrapper (the shape is obvious) but the delivery van, sitting at the curbside, has that big torpedo on top with the "AMERICAN SEX TOYS INC." signage.
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:25 PM (qfLjt)
'Does anyone have a flashlight?'
'There's one in the sightstand.'
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:29 PM (0IeYL)
Production batch overruns at Lake City (DOD ammo factory)?
Posted by: Ed L at January 23, 2022 09:30 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2022 09:30 PM (Xrfse)
D'uh.
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 09:30 PM (12ET2)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 08:06 PM
Let's not get carried away, there. You are a Texan.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (z8oRC)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (0IeYL)
I do think some content on carry "systems" (especially concealed carry) and suppliers of components would be well received by the Gun Thread Horde!
Thanks
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (hOUT3)
Biden is considering sending troops and planes to Ukraine.
What is it with Democrats and wars?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H Lloyd at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (llXky)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:32 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (z8oRC)
If it makes you feel better, he looked like a GOAT in the 4th quarter, and he didn't lose the game at the end...
Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:32 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:32 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (9sjiB)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2022 09:26 PM (ZMraq)/i]
Be interesting to see how they get the 10% to the Big Guy!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (exHjb)
Any Americans In Burkina Faso?
Gunfire rang out late Sunday near the home of Burkina Faso's embattled President Roch Marc Christian Kabore, raising the specter that a military coup might still be under way after mutinous soldiers seized a military base earlier in the day.
Do Re Me Faso
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:24 PM (E1b6a)
Sure! The P-07 a polymer frame with the CZ 'inner rails' setup. Takedown is ala the CZ 75. It's NATO spec, 15 round mags in 9mm. You can swap out the 9mm slide and put on a factory .22 adapter (the Kadet). That way you use the same frame, same trigger to run your .22 drills.
Great, great pistol.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at January 23, 2022 09:33 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: tom brady at January 23, 2022 09:34 PM (KFhLj)
Perfect example of Murphy's law.
Btw, savage just rolled out their own 22 chassis precision rifle based on the savage 64 action.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:34 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2022 09:35 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:35 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (4fSQf)
they gotta keep their losing streak intact.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2022 09:35 PM (VwHCD)
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Thanks Hrothgar!
Email me your favorite holsters with pics or links and why you like it, and I'll put it all into a thread.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:35 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:36 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (4fSQf)
Simple, Democrats don't normally get involved in actual fighting in these wars, but boy can they come up with much needed diversity guidance in war zones!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 09:36 PM (hOUT3)
Hate these modern, fashionable, pretentious names for countries.
"Baby just keep doing the Ougadougou, that you do"
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:36 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:37 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:37 PM (OTzUX)
Autocorrect seems to want to change my feelings. Not today autocorrect. Not today.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:38 PM (z8oRC)
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If you don't mind, can you send me your recommendation and pics or links in an email? Thank you.
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:38 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:34 PM (E1b6a)
Yeah, this .22 competition stuff is just as expensive as bigger guns.
Ain't America great?
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 09:38 PM (12ET2)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (Xrfse)
Are there that many people that shoot .50 BMG? Or did someone over-produce massively some years ago? Or is there a huge surplus stock for some reason? I know there's a number of guys that shoot it on youtube, but that's not real life.
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:28 PM (A2G/3)
I met a dude in the 80's that had bought 2 barrets, so he bought 30,000 rounds of .50. The price at that time? 30 cents a round.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (VwHCD)
Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (9sjiB)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (exHjb)
You can't be serious!
Holster=.45ACP=9mm=Crossbow=Longbow.
If you do it, you're a better man than I am Gunga Din!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2022 09:39 PM (Q9lwr)
Posted by: oldgeezer at January 23, 2022 09:40 PM (Wb5vb)
Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:40 PM (9sjiB)
Biden is considering sending troops and planes to Ukraine.
What is it with Democrats and wars?
Posted by: AlaBAMA
donks, gotta donk.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at January 23, 2022 09:40 PM (IJES/)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:40 PM (E1b6a)
You met a very wealthy dude.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:41 PM (z8oRC)
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Howdy oldgeezer! Welcome to the Gun Thread!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:41 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:41 PM (0OP+5)
They also had a fair amount of ammo, and prices seemed to be a bit lower than a few months ago.
Posted by: a.moron at January 23, 2022 09:41 PM (F6Xpw)
Posted by: IrishEi at January 23, 2022 09:41 PM (0TVNF)
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We quit support after they wouldn't take money from gun-connected businesses and churches (or something).
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: klaftern at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (taPSh)
I've been slowly slimming down my multi-K stash of 54R, as one doesn't normally go through hundreds of rounds of bolt-action ammo a year. Probably will just keep what I have and see if I can shoot it up over the next 5 years. Not likely.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:31 PM (4fSQf)
They can't perform with their wives (or boyfriends) unless they fantasize about sending American men to their deaths.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (Q9lwr)
If you do it, you're a better man than I am Gunga Din!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January
Dude.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:43 PM (4fSQf)
I just now realize that y'all are talking about football. When Nurse posted "BILLS" earlier I thought she was just expressing frustration doing the household bills on a Sunday night.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 09:43 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:35 PM (OTzUX)
The CZ's are, hands down, my favorite hammer-fired pistols. They are not perfect, they have quirks, but they are accurate and reliable with great ergonomics.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (eeRB6)
Had a victim from there once (well, her citizenship was a European country, daughter of expats). Great accent.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (E1b6a)
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We quit support after they wouldn't take money from gun-connected businesses and churches (or something).
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (qfLjM
Semper Fi Fund has been my military charity for a long time. I haven't checked / researched them recently. I really need to do that periodically with my charities .
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (z8oRC)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (mwsJy)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (OTzUX)
Adorable and sexy. I had an acquaintance from SA who was a six, but her voice was a ten!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2022 09:45 PM (Q9lwr)
Posted by: IrishEi at January 23, 2022 09:45 PM (0TVNF)
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 09:45 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (9sjiB)
Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
The first time I picked up a 75 SP-01 it was love at first grab.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (Q9lwr)
You saying Tater and French can't get it up unless they think about manly men fighting?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (w7Kx9)
It might fall over - and damage something else in your garage.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2022 09:41 PM (0OP+5)
And cities. Bombay was a cool name.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:46 PM (z8oRC)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:47 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 09:43 PM (nfrXX)
That will be in tomorrow night's overnight thread...
Posted by: Nova local at January 23, 2022 09:47 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: GWB at January 23, 2022 09:47 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: davidt at January 23, 2022 09:48 PM (9sjiB)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:48 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Burma at January 23, 2022 09:48 PM (KFhLj)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
My boy is one of those.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 09:49 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 09:49 PM (UGun5)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2022 09:49 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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I think it was you who directed the horde to the CZ-esque Israeli Jericho 94F a couple of years ago. Even beat up from being thrown in a crate and banged around for 40 years that pistol oozes quality.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 09:49 PM (mwsJy)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:49 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2022 09:50 PM (E1b6a)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 09:50 PM (UGun5)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:51 PM (z8oRC)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 09:50 PM (UGun5)
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Yeah! That's a keeper!
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:51 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 09:50 PM (UGun5)
That's awesome. What are the odds?
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 09:51 PM (z8oRC)
Distracted a bit with potential future DIL here keeping track of Bills game online.
Night, all!
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 09:52 PM (12ET2)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
I bought one when they first came into the country, around 1985. Its always been a fav of mine. Beautiful trigger.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2022 09:52 PM (VwHCD)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:53 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 09:53 PM (0IeYL)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 08:15 PM (llXky)
That's the manufacturing of the piece. Shooting cast really requires bore diameters not increase from cylinder/chamber to muzzle.
Cylinders are pretty much gang bored and the holes usually don't match and frequently a a couple thou undersized. Torquing the barrel into the frame often introduces a constriction there. Either or both of these result in a bullet being squeezed down to less than bore diameter and then you get gas cutting and lead deposited ahead of the bullet.
I've fixed that in a couple of revolvers. There's worse ways to spend my time.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 23, 2022 09:53 PM (8C7+r)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2022 09:54 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 09:55 PM (UGun5)
Weird.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 07:45 PM (jTmQV)
Sorta sounds like the perp was on a mission, and not your normal gang-banger.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 23, 2022 09:57 PM (P3gRi)
I get a tolerable level of leading in the Model 66 from lead bullets (just some dry scrubbing with all-copper ChoreBoy wrapped around an old .38 brush), but in my snubs I've opted to go with plated bullets. Laziness, er, efficiency, really.
I actually got a kit to check bore size on the 66, but the damn uneven number of rifling grooves makes measurement challenging. I've tried to regulate leading via charge/pressure, seems to work OK. Same-same with lead in the 1911, 200g SWC standard (like many guys), usually just a bit of lead "wash" near the chamber.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:59 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 09:42 PM (qfLjt)
I think Fisher House is honest, but I really need to review that to be sure.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ In Memorium: Absent Friends and Companions at January 23, 2022 09:59 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 10:01 PM (UGun5)
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 07:55 PM (9otr5)
Sounds to me as though you might have a warranty claim against the manufacturer, or else have grounds to void the sale as "not being fit for the purpose for which it was sold".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 23, 2022 10:02 PM (P3gRi)
Pixy could tell us exactly but we can estimate. About 90 printable ASCII characters, 5 character hash, so roughly 90^5 or just short of 6 million. So much better than our odds of winning the Powerball on any given day.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2022 10:02 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at January 23, 2022 10:01 PM (UGun5)
Except, it should be UGun50. Or maybe the 5 is guns above water.
Goodnight, all!
Posted by: RI Red at January 23, 2022 10:03 PM (12ET2)
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Probably saved a dozen cops lives by using that massively unreliable drum magazine in an already illegal firearm possessed by a felon in the act of murder.
Quick, Democrats. Ban those magazines so that only reliable ones are available for criminals.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 10:04 PM (mwsJy)
But I do learn things here. Thanks.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 23, 2022 10:05 PM (F0YaR)
Posted by: Weasel at January 23, 2022 08:14 PM (0IeYL)
Ground walnut shell is used a lot as an additive to drilling mud, so one can buy large sacks from oilfield supply dealers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 23, 2022 10:08 PM (P3gRi)
Truck carrying 100 CDC test monkeys crashed. CDC keeping an eye out for local residents exhibiting zombie like symptoms (last part may be made up)
- gatewaypundit (so you know is true)
Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 23, 2022 10:15 PM (j8ZL7)
Very late on this thread but it seems that the hangup on availability could be a problem with the extractor failing after about 1000 rounds. People who have sent them back to Springield get a new extractor and no further problems. They may be replacing the extractor on manufactured ones before shipping which would explain the delays and they don't want to tell people that.
Posted by: Azjaeger at January 23, 2022 10:20 PM (3/XaG)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2022 10:31 PM (QzPUP)
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/499151/
Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2022 09:20 PM (6q/S1)
How much equipment are we going to accidentally leave the Russians?
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Don't know. The Russians haven't dropped off their requirements list yet.
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 10:33 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:44 PM (OTzUX)
Adorable and sexy. I had an acquaintance from SA who was a six, but her voice was a ten!
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I'm probably not adorable and definitely not sexy but everyone seems to love my accent - I spent 16 odd years in East Africa and another 26 in South Africa.
LOL
Posted by: Ciampino at January 23, 2022 10:51 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Dr_No at January 23, 2022 11:57 PM (mu5GU)
Hate these modern, fashionable, pretentious names for countries.
"Baby just keep doing the Ougadougou, that you do"
Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2022 09:36 PM (OTzUX)
Changed it's name on August 4, 1984.
Anytime I see mention of this country I am reminded (yet again) of (yes, I'm beating a horse to death) my fourth-grade teacher. A big "international day" was coming up in school and as part of it, we all had to write book reports on various countries. I was assigned Upper Volta. I immediately corrected my teacher and said it was "Bourkina Fasso" (the way it was spelled in my almanac at the time). Did she immediately kick my ass for doing that? No. Hell, I think she gave me extra credit.
To the topic at hand: a range visit looms in the near future. Things are pretty dismal in Catch Thirty-Thr33 land so I need the break. A Zen moment. A time to focus and recalibrate my brain. Range time forces you into focus.
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