Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Dress Thread, Jan. 22

Happy Winter, everybody! We are going to start with a visit the desert today for an update on Edible Gardening by a faithful friend who has not even been able to comment lately!

Hello Horde and garden putterers, Just a little update from the holler. I haven't been able to comment lately because of some computer glitch but I am still wandering around the yard puttering like mad. Planting a few new things to me anyway, this month. Trying some celery, as I read that you can just pull off a stalk as needed and the plant just keeps on going. That appealed to me, as I don't use a ton of celery. I am trying it from seed but also next time I get some celery from the store I am going to plant the cut off end and try that. It is supposed to work very well. Also I got some bareroot strawberry plants I am going to put in to the garden tower that I inherited. Right now I have been harvesting some magnificent daikon radish from the top tier.
The first photo is my fruit bowl with all the things I harvested this week. The grapefruits on the left and the oranges on the right of the bowl are from my neighbors 45 year old citrus tree. He passed away last month at 97 and his house hasn't sold yet. I am trying not to let his magnificent fruit go to waste. I am particularly fond of the grapefruit which I use to make a grapefruit gin and tonic on occasion, okay a few times a week.
Inside the bowl are a couple of my home grown tangerines, the last of my kaffir limes, and bunch of tomatoes that I pick when just starting to turn and throw in the bowl to finish ripening or the birds get to them. I have no idea the variety as I got it as "free" seeds when I bought some other seeds but it LOVES it here in Arizona and has self seeded and kept me in tomatoes for the last 3 years. I always make sure when I cut the tomatoes if any seeds get on the cutting board I just go find a space in the garden and scrape them into the bed. No other effort necessary. I usually have at least 4 volunteer tomato plants by doing that.
Wee Kreek Farm Girl

I have also been harvesting a lot of peppers, these are some hot lemon peppers and some wild chiltepin peppers that may look small and innocuous but they pack a mighty bit of heat. These will be turned into hot sauce later today.

Intriguing little peppers.

And finally my lemons are coming in, mine is on the left and a store bought lemon on the right so you can see just how mammoth they are. The tag on the tree said it was a lisbon lemon and I planted it 17 years ago. The juice is fairly acidic and bright but one lemon juices the amount of 3 normal lemons. You can see the outside is very bumpy. Hope the rest of the horde are doing well and madly planning their spring garden. I have picked 4 more new things to try, I just have to order them. I will let you know when I get them.

I'm not sure that is a Lisbon lemon. Can anyone confirm?

Maybe we can give Wee Kreek Farm Girl some computer tips in the comments.

Indoor Gardening

Hi,
I have been nursing my orchid back to health. I thought I killed it last year. I changed it out of the plastic pot to the glass container. I have been filling the
glass up with water, letting the wood chips become saturated then dumping out
the water.
The orchid loves being watered this way because, as you can see, the roots are a bright green and very fat instead of the usual dried looking roots. I think the brown on the one root is a burn. I used to have the orchid in a window that was too hot. My bad.
I am thrilled and surprised that there are two flower stems instead of just the one that I have had for the two previous years. Very excited to see the flowers blooming this year. I was wondering, because of the agreeable watering and placement of the orchid that is why there will be two flowering stems from now on?
Happy New Year. Love the gardening thread/site.
Suzanne

Can't wait to see a flower! Interesting orchid culture observations!

Monarchs!

It's time to see the hibernating Monarch butterflies in California. These are in Pacific Grove. There are more butterflies this year than last year.

Monarchs may be small, but their journey is epic. The 3 to 4-inch butterflies make one of the most impressive migrations of any species, flying hundreds of miles from Mexico to the California coast, where the Western population overwinters. The colony peaks in size from early December to February, with mating season taking place right around Valentine's day.
To be honest, even with the recent resurgence, it's still nothing like it used to be, back in the days when there were millions of monarchs teeming amid the trees. Daphne was slightly disappointed that the swarms of yore were not in evidence. Instead, you have to keep quiet and look hard, keeping your neck craned toward the tree canopy, to see the little lovelies. Binoculars come in handy.

Science:

Why are mice eating monarch butterflies in Pismo Beach?

Well, because they are there. I did learn that toxins in the butterflies are concentrated in the wings (where birds are likely to grab them).

Seems like they spent a lot of money on this study. Alarming that there were only 200 butterflies last year in the 2020 fall count.

More Puttering

I know its the slow time of the year for gardening. Here's a project I've been working on, hopefully can add some interesting content. Mealworms for Chicken feed. I took over an abandoned mealworm colony from a neighbor who used them for reptile feeders. After some youtube research I got it cleaned up and geared towards growth. Mealworms are amazing protein converters, taking a cheap agricultural byproduct(wheat bran) at 14$ per 50lb sack and converting it to 40% protein mealworm snax. The lifecycle is egg, larva, pupa, beetle. The fully grown larva stage is what is typically used for animal feed, right now I am growing everything out to beetle stage to exponentially increase production during the summer warm season. Attached pics are of my beetle tray, which is a gray plastic restaurant bussing tray. The second pic is of fully grown mealworms and the pupa they will develop into before becoming a beetle. I switch out the substrate of the beetle tray every 2 weeks to start a new nursery tray. Hopefully by this summer I'll have so many bugs we can feed a free ranged flock of chickens year round for very little cost. From a fellow Oregonian, RIP OregonMuse.
From KarlHungus

Amazing chicken snax!

OregonMuse did a couple of features on insects - insects that eat books, in particular. He had such a wide range of interests!

I can't believe that OregonMuse is no longer with us. He had a special knack for noticing things about human beings and about the world that others may have missed. He put his own distinctive style into his Morning Rants and Book Threads. But imagine deciding to feature lovely dresses as part of a Chess Thread when the world had largely turned away from that kind of quiet appreciation of beauty and history. What a delightful, quirky way to think! Perhaps we can look back into some of those posts from time to time for a little inspiration 'til we meet again, OregonMuse, beyond these pages.

Below, please consider some potential puttering (or just admiration) inspired by past Saturday Afternoon Chess Threads, like this feature from December 18, 2021:

Dress Pr0n For the 'Ettes:

Evening dress & jacket designed by Elsa Schiaparelli, Paris 1948. Silk satin (jacket & dress bodice) & rayon damask (dress skirt) @philamuseum collections #dress #fashionhistory pic.twitter.com/LNRZFiLYrQ
— A Stitch in Time ✂️ (@AStitchinTime13) December 15, 2021

Let's take a closer look at the back and front of the jacket. Imagine lining up all those stripes:

Notice how the jacket fits the neck and shoulders nicely. The neck shaping comes partly from the back seam (you can see that the stripes are not even along the seam) and partly from shaping of the collar.

The shoulder seam is at the top of the shoulder. Here is One Weird Trick for getting a jacket, dress, blouse or shirt with a top shoulder seam to look better on anyone except the very rare person with totally straight shoulders: ease the longer back seam into the front seam. A longer back seam is generally a sign of a quality pattern.

This video shows how to run an easing stitch on the back shoulder seam of a jacket being constructed using a quality pattern in which the back seam is longer than the front seam. This easing takes the place of a shoulder dart:

And here is how the back piece is eased into the front piece:

After this video: We hope that the seam will be steam-pressed (preferably with a steam cloth) to encourage it to follow the natural curve of the shoulder. Here is a way to add the ease to the stitch line just by stretching the fabric of the front shoulder along the stitch line. Some people like to stitch twill tape into the seam to stabilize the shoulder seam, which might make the first process preferable.

In a pattern which mimics modern unfitted clothing, you can make the shoulders fit better by cutting a shallow dip in the back shoulder seam (about 1/4 inch at the deepest point) to make it longer, then ease it in at the stitch line as above.

All this rigamarole can be avoided if the garment is made with a yoke at the shoulder. You may have noticed that collar and cuff styles change on men's dress shirts, but the good quality ones retain a yoke. This may also be one of the reasons women like to wear men's shirts, say, as over-shirts. They fit in the shoulders and at the neck.

Here is a woman's blouse from OregonMuse's Saturday Afternoon Chess of November 20, 2021. It has a shoulder yoke like a man's dress shirt, with some shoulder padding added. It also features gathers under the yoke, which is a good way to add bust darting if you don't know someone's bust measurements. This model could maybe have used a little more darting, however.

And from January 16, 2021:

The dart line below is called a "French Dart". It is one of the more difficult types of darts to do right, and almost requires an individual fitting in the case of some garments. This piece certainly fits the model well in the neck, shoulder and bust. Not for beginning sewers or on-line shoppers. Gathers or pleats under a shoulder yoke, as in the photo above, would have a much better chance of flattering a random 'Ette who has only a photo to go by when shopping online.

If you would like to send information and/or photos for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden
at that g mail dot com place

Include the nic by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ,
unless you want to remain a lurker.

Posted by: K.T. at 01:32 PM

Comments

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1 Growy things!

Posted by: Bert G at January 22, 2022 01:37 PM (fHydr)

2 Gobkd afternoon Greenthumbs and Snow Bunnies
Only thing going on here outside is gotten rid of lots of useless pine logs. Thankfully no snow yet.

Posted by: Skip at January 22, 2022 01:39 PM (2JoB8)

3 I'm getting rumblings through folks that I know that seeds are starting to be in short supply, so for those of you planning this spring's garden, you may want to take care of ordering sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Bert G at January 22, 2022 01:40 PM (fHydr)

4 I wish I could grow orchids. Never had any success at all.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 22, 2022 01:40 PM (rwOXu)

5 Good Afternoon, my typing isn't that bad

Posted by: Skip at January 22, 2022 01:40 PM (2JoB8)

6 Who knew I'd be a darting enthusiast???
And I pop in here for the flowers.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 22, 2022 01:40 PM (axyOa)

7 Stunning picture. Wish I lived in a warmer place.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 01:41 PM (ONvIw)

8 I'm getting rumblings through folks that I know that seeds are starting to be in short supply, so for those of you planning this spring's garden, you may want to take care of ordering sooner rather than later.
Posted by: Bert G at January 22, 2022 01:40 PM (fHydr)

Seeing a bit of that myself. Let the garden go last spring but am looking to renew this year with tomatoes, peppers and zucchini. I keep trying and failing with cucumbers.
Sigh.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 22, 2022 01:43 PM (axyOa)

9 I have a seed from a date that I'm trying to get started. It's almost time to put it in a growing medium. Been in a moist paper towel in a ziplock on the window sill for a month.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 22, 2022 01:44 PM (rwOXu)

10 Tomatoes and peppers are easy here as deer hate them. I had beans in a bed on my deck....deer on the deck

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 01:45 PM (ONvIw)

11 Quite here in the low desert, a little rain this morning (more of a misting).
More weed control needed...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 22, 2022 01:50 PM (d3guq)

12 Cold here, so no garden projects. I do like making my own sprouts in the winter though, and pea shoots for salads.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 01:51 PM (ONvIw)

13 Deer have been all through my yard as droppings and everywhere, there is a dozen at least around but no damage I notice for food being a bit scarce.

Posted by: Skip at January 22, 2022 01:52 PM (2JoB8)

14 To WeeCreek: That's a Ponderosa Lemon. The zest from those is absolutely wonderful, and their juice makes a sublime pie!

I believe they are a cross between a Buddha's Hand (citron) and a regular Persian Lemon. I had a couple of those trees in my old grove, but a hard freeze killed them. The Upper Texas Coast is hard on tropicals...

Posted by: Brewingfrog at January 22, 2022 01:52 PM (cjlB3)

15 "Here's a project I've been working on, hopefully can add some interesting content. Mealworms for ~~Chicken~~ people feed. I took over an abandoned mealworm colony from a neighbor who used them for reptile feeders."

We've fixed your original post to better align with our goals for you. Bon appetite!

Posted by: Your Alphabet-Google technocrat rulers at January 22, 2022 01:52 PM (NCgXW)

16 Thanks for stepping up with vintage and otherwise fashion photos. Lovely

Posted by: Tuna at January 22, 2022 01:54 PM (gLRfa)

17 WeeKreekFarmGirl has been getting "500 internal error" messages when she tries to comment. Any tips for her?

Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 01:55 PM (0ghg2)

18 Thoughtful tribute to OM, KT.

I think the model in b/w pic is Audrey Hepburn from Funny Face movie.

Posted by: kallisto at January 22, 2022 01:55 PM (DJFLF)

19 or maybe Roman Holiday.

yes I think it's that one due to espadrille ankles

Posted by: kallisto at January 22, 2022 01:57 PM (DJFLF)

20 17: less quotes, the program hates them from commenters

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 01:57 PM (ONvIw)

21 Yes, Roman Holiday. She goes into that beauty shop and gets a pixy hairdo. But Audrey looked good no matter what.

Posted by: AlmostYuman at January 22, 2022 02:01 PM (H2AJY)

22 19: Yes, Roman Holiday!

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 02:01 PM (ONvIw)

23 I have a seed from a date that I'm trying to get started. It's almost time to put it in a growing medium.

Have you called her back yet? Don't call back right away, or try to sound desperate.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 22, 2022 02:04 PM (psL96)

24 I am thinking of putting in plum trees. Any suggestions for fast growing varieties?

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 02:04 PM (ONvIw)

25 CELERY ... We planted this years ago and it grew well ... Biggest surprise wasn't how well the plants grew but, rather, how powerfully strong the flavor was (almost unbearable to eat raw) ... We ended up dicing and freezing most of the crop for soups and stews.

Posted by: Kathy at January 22, 2022 02:05 PM (h3RRP)

26 17 WeeKreekFarmGirl has been getting "500 internal error" messages when she tries to comment. Any tips for her?
Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 01:55 PM (0ghg2)

I think there was quite a bit of discussion on last night's ONT regarding difficulties posting...later in the thread - in the 700's?

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornia at January 22, 2022 02:06 PM (7SwmH)

27 Yes, Roman Holiday. She goes into that beauty shop and gets a pixy hairdo. But Audrey looked good no matter what.
Posted by: AlmostYuman at January 22, 2022 02:01 PM (H2AJY)

Became all the rage right after the movie. My mother has a similar haircut in her wedding photos which took place a year or so after the film was released in theaters.

I've seen the film quite a few times, it's a fantasy of course, but they really got good stuff out of the cast, and the writing was just fun, as nonsensical as it was. And it didn't hurt that Hepburn was a cute as bug at this stage in her career and looked as innocent as was needed for the role.

Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 02:07 PM (5iUNf)

28 Anonymous Guy in Kalifornia at January 22, 2022 02:06 PM

Thanks.

Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 02:11 PM (0ghg2)

29 The large lemon could be a Sorrento Lemon. They are everywhere in and around Sorrento and the Amalfi Coast. I've seen ones that look like the photo.

Posted by: Javems at January 22, 2022 02:12 PM (AmoqO)

30 Question for you more experienced gardeners -- is there a good online resource for 'how-to' information on growing food? Any particular sites I should look at?

Thanks in advance,
Tobias

Posted by: Penultimatum at January 22, 2022 02:14 PM (dA2bw)

31 All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's Reproductive Health Center thinks the biggist problem in this country is protecting Gay Rights. We be calls on Presdent Bydum to do something about this crisis now !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at January 22, 2022 02:15 PM (TRc6C)

32 WeeKreekFarmGirl has been getting "500 internal error" messages when she tries to comment. Any tips for her?

Turn off smart quoting if it's on. Stole that idea from last night's ONT.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at January 22, 2022 02:15 PM (SchxB)

33 Love the sewing tips. I'm still sewing on my 1981 Monkey wards machine. Made lots of baby clothes, kids clothes, my clothes and need to finish a quilt.

Land scape guys coming next friday for estimate on changing out 47 yo railroad ties with block or some such. So much better to grow stuff.

Posted by: Infidel at January 22, 2022 02:17 PM (qpolg)

34 Nice harvest, Wee Kreek Farm Girl. That lemon is epic.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at January 22, 2022 02:18 PM (uWF4x)

35 Wee creek girl,
Have you turned off smart punctuation in settings? Also, too many line breaks will cause problems too.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 22, 2022 02:20 PM (UUBmN)

36 500 internal error ... If Windows is WeeKreekFarmGirls's OS, performing a Disk Cleanup might help (it removes lots of stuff besides old cookies).

Posted by: Kathy at January 22, 2022 02:22 PM (h3RRP)

37 Penultimatum at January 22, 2022 02:14 PM

There are a lot of good online resources. You might check to see if your county has a master gardener's site first.

Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 02:22 PM (0ghg2)

38 WeeKreekFarmGirl has been getting "500 internal error" messages when she tries to comment. Any tips for her?
Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 01:55 PM (0ghg2)

If she'll just pose in a bikini - Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) will figure out how to get her on the comments...

Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 02:23 PM (5iUNf)

39 Wee Kreek Farm Girl,

If you are copying phrases containing apostrophes, quotes, dashes, etc., try manually retyping all of these characters. That might resolve your issue.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at January 22, 2022 02:24 PM (uWF4x)

40 Wee Kreek Farm Girl,

If you are copying phrases containing apostrophes, quotes, dashes, etc., try manually retyping all of these characters. That might resolve your issue.
Posted by: 40 Miles North at January 22, 2022 02:24 PM (uWF4x)

Or the bikini posing thing...but yeah, this will work, too.

Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 02:25 PM (5iUNf)

41 I will not live in the pod, I will not eat the bugs, I will not own nothing and be happy!

Posted by: KarlHungus at January 22, 2022 02:26 PM (EpjLV)

42 Mary is SO RIGHT!!!

And Mary, please consider keeping at least some clothes on at the next yoga session at the Unitarian Universalist Islamic Center. Our new Afghan neighbor gentleman was muttering that "haram" word again.

Posted by: Concerned Woman of Brattleboro at January 22, 2022 02:26 PM (QzkSJ)

43 Diogenes at January 22, 2022 01:43 PM

Are you growing cucumbers on a trellis? Picking a variety for your climate?

Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 02:27 PM (0ghg2)

44 I had a Ponderosa lemon tree that made some fruit that liked kind of like that but not as big. Freeze got it a couple of years ago. Small tree that made a bunch of fruit.

Posted by: Javems at January 22, 2022 02:27 PM (AmoqO)

45 Or the bikini posing thing...but yeah, this will work, too.

Bikini posing may be the more efficient method.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at January 22, 2022 02:28 PM (SchxB)

46 Kathy at January 22, 2022 02:05 PM

Some commercial celery is blanched before harvest. Celery is also stronger if it doesn't get enough water.

Try celeriac and eat the roots.

Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 02:29 PM (0ghg2)

47 >> 7 Stunning picture. Wish I lived in a warmer place.

You're talking about the blonde in the floral dress?

Posted by: 40 Miles North at January 22, 2022 02:30 PM (uWF4x)

48 CELERY ... We planted this years ago and it grew well ... Biggest surprise wasn't how well the plants grew but, rather, how powerfully strong the flavor was (almost unbearable to eat raw) .

produce picked fresh from the garden or tree is just unbelievably flavorful.

I remember some oak leaf lettuce we grew...just picked the leaves, threw some vinegar and salt on it...heaven!

(we like the "bitter" type greens)

Posted by: kallisto at January 22, 2022 02:31 PM (DJFLF)

49 Posted by: Javems at January 22, 2022 02:12 PM (AmoqO)

my godmother has one of those lemon trees in her house. She bought the tree from a grower who had the Italian plants. When I first saw the fruit I thought they were grapefruit

Posted by: kallisto at January 22, 2022 02:32 PM (DJFLF)

50 Suzanne,
we have a smallish orchid like the one you sent in. it hasn't bloomed in 3 years. Smash repotted it, and gave some indoor plant fertilizer / nutrients. after some research, it appears that they need about a ten degree temperature difference to trigger blooming. and indirect sunlight.

we're moving the little thing from the kitchen whre it lives, into the family room and set it on the electronics while we watch tv so it gets the temperature changes it needs.

if it ever blooms, i'll submit some photos. except for the little pot, it looks almost exactly like the one you have.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at January 22, 2022 02:34 PM (IJES/)

51 re: Seed catalogs

Anyone familiar with Rohrer Seeds?

https://rohrerseeds.com/

I bought one packet of old-fashioned pansy seeds from them last summer and they sent me a catalog. They're from Lancaster County PA

Posted by: kallisto at January 22, 2022 02:35 PM (DJFLF)

52 For years I had one other blog that I visited. Only one! The lady took ugly clothes from thrift stores and refashioned them in to some really cute stuff. Ugly house dress with a bright floral pattern looked like an original Lily Pulitzer when she was finished. She posted lots of process pics and I actually learned a few things and got inspired by her. She was definitely a lefty but didn't get political very much. Sadly she passed last year at the age of 39 from ovarian cancer.
Best reader flounce response........She used the phrase "Kardashian and their ilk" someone got offended by the word ilk. She came into the comments and said... Well... Bye.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 22, 2022 02:36 PM (Vxu+H)

53 Lemon trees line both sides of the main thoroughfare in Sorrento. Even the leaves smell like lemon. Delightful.

Posted by: Javems at January 22, 2022 02:36 PM (AmoqO)

54 43 Diogenes at January 22, 2022 01:43 PM

Are you growing cucumbers on a trellis? Picking a variety for your climate?
Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 02:27 PM (0ghg2)
***

No. Never tried a trellis. Will that help?
I've been letting it be a creeper on the ground. I get lots of flowers...fewer cukes and even fewer grow to maturity. And those that do lack flavor. So at $0.79 each in the summer, its just easier at the store. But I still want to grow them.
The soil if typical Pacific NW stuff, although over the years I have added better soil into the bed.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 22, 2022 02:36 PM (axyOa)

55 Oh, I love the colors and that 1948 evening dress and jacket.
Thanks for including some dress pron, KT, and the monarch butterflies are lovely.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 02:39 PM (k49Sx)

56 Bikini posing may be the more efficient method.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at January 22, 2022 02:28 PM (SchxB)

Unless Fen objects - then she's back to the retyping thing with the grammatical marks.

BTW - here's my doodle of Fen confronting Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) over his chick pics...

https://ibb.co/Thn54st

Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 02:41 PM (5iUNf)

57 55 Meant the colors "on" the 1948 evening dress and jacket.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 02:42 PM (k49Sx)

58 Love that photo of the sunlight showing through the monarch butterfly wings. Like living stained glass.

Posted by: JTB at January 22, 2022 02:42 PM (7EjX1)

59 nice pics and assorted topics.

All I know about lemons is what I just found in a search. A woman had a question about her big bumpy lemon ID, and there is a discussion about it here.
https://is.gd/hh4KpW

One guy thought maybe the Rough Lemon rootstock (commonly used) had taken over. The rootstock sometimes sends up branches from below the graft, but idk any other way for that to happen. Then in that link, there is a video linked of one woman showing larger bumpy lemons on the same decades old tree as normal lemons, and claims it is a shortage of Phosphorous.

idk, but a fun discussion anyway.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 22, 2022 02:42 PM (Cus5s)

60 And the purge goes on!

Room upstairs is either hang meat cold or cook meat hot. We use it for storage. Its been getting cleared and cleaned today. Mostly done except for the big pile going to charity and the smaller pile for the boy spawn to drag out to his shed. Its his stuff.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 22, 2022 02:43 PM (Vxu+H)

61 Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 02:41 PM (5iUNf)

that's a pretty good doodle

Posted by: kallisto at January 22, 2022 02:43 PM (DJFLF)

62 >> 4 I wish I could grow orchids. Never had any success at all.

Those are temperamental plants. You would probably need to find a variety appropriate for your growing conditions and then experiment to figure out exactly what it needs.

Or just grow irises instead. They are much easier to deal with. If you have a wet climate, you can grow the bearded irises. The conventional irises are better in dry climates.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at January 22, 2022 02:43 PM (uWF4x)

63
BTW - here's my doodle of Fen confronting Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) over his chick pics...

https://ibb.co/Thn54st
Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 02:41 PM (5iUNf)

Ahhh...darting!

Posted by: Diogenes at January 22, 2022 02:44 PM (axyOa)

64 BTW - here's my doodle of Fen confronting Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) over his chick pics...

https://ibb.co/Thn54st
Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 02:41 PM (5iUNf)

I'm on team Fen

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 02:46 PM (ONvIw)

65 Pretty dresses! Thanks KT!!!

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at January 22, 2022 02:48 PM (nscF9)

66 >> 24 I am thinking of putting in plum trees.
>> Any suggestions for fast growing varieties?

Be sure to read up on how to stop peach borers. My parents lost a big apricot tree to those rotten little buggers.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at January 22, 2022 02:48 PM (uWF4x)

67 We have had our first really cold weather the last couple of days so it's a good excuse to stay warm indoors and read.

We do have a hyacinth bulb in a glass that is starting to bloom. I love the springtime green of the shoots against the pure white of the blossoms. And the scent is gently sweet. It is a nice reminder of the season to come.

Posted by: JTB at January 22, 2022 02:49 PM (7EjX1)

68 Be sure to read up on how to stop peach borers. My parents lost a big apricot tree to those rotten little buggers.
Posted by: 40 Miles North at January 22, 2022 02:48 PM (uWF4x)

Yes, many plums have pest issues, but might just look into damsons which have fewer.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 02:50 PM (ONvIw)

69 t
Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 02:41 PM (5iUNf)

That's a great cartoon; Thanks. It's very clever.

At this point I just make snarky comments mostly in fun about the bikini babes and I hope he knows that, and I don't even look at all the ones he posts. I leave that to the guys.

It's not that I necessarily mind bikini babes. They're quite attractive; It's just when we have them in thread after thread and when their boobs are mostly hanging out (which he doesn't do that often) that I find it a bit much, and I actually get a tired of the selfie/imstagram generation and occasionally worry that some of the most exposed babes with tats might end up in porn which as far as I can tell from articles by women who had been in that business that it often leads to an drug abuse, mental instability and an early death-hardly surprising

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 02:50 PM (k49Sx)

70 Diogenes at January 22, 2022 02:36 PM

Pick up one of the non-typical PNW cukes from Territorial or one of the other more local catalogs. Growing on a trellis should help. You might go with a parthenocarpic variety if you aren't getting fruit set.

Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 02:51 PM (0ghg2)

71 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 02:50 PM (k49Sx)

It seems to be a way to end the thread.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 02:52 PM (ONvIw)

72 Pick up one of the non-typical PNW cukes from Territorial or one of the other more local catalogs. Growing on a trellis should help. You might go with a parthenocarpic variety if you aren't getting fruit set.
Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 02:51 PM (0ghg2)

Thanxs for the tip. I'll give it a try.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 22, 2022 02:53 PM (axyOa)

73 Oh, I see BrewingFrog said it is a ponderosa lemon ... that makes sense. In the discussion I linked someone mentioned Ponderosa but her tree was different for some reason. There do seem to be some other lemons that have the big rough look, but sounds like Ponderosa is common for the area.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 22, 2022 02:54 PM (Cus5s)

74 "The large lemon could be a Sorrento Lemon. They are everywhere in and around Sorrento and the Amalfi Coast. I've seen ones that look like the photo."

I believe the Sorentos are larger yet.

We were stationed in Gaeta, up above Napoli for about 7 years, and spent a fair amount of time driving down to Sorento. First time I saw one, I thought it was an inflatable toy, as it was so damn big.
Best lemon in the world to make limoncello with.

And those ones in the picture look close, but not exactly the same.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 22, 2022 02:55 PM (3D/fK)

75 Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 02:52 PM (ONvIw)

That was not my intention, or you mean "babes and their boobs" was a way to end a thread.?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 02:55 PM (k49Sx)

76 kallisto at January 22, 2022 02:35 PM

Never heard of Rohrer Seeds. They seem to offer heritage varieties and old, standard hybrids.

Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 02:56 PM (0ghg2)

77 And I like the girl with the thoughtful. sort of prayerful looking pose in the geometric pattern dress; She's very pretty.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 02:57 PM (k49Sx)

78 That was not my intention, or you mean "babes and their boobs" was a way to end a thread.?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 02:55 PM (k49Sx)

The pictures and crude comments that usually follow them tends to derail discussions on a regular basis.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 02:58 PM (ONvIw)

79 We used to have mealworms when I was a kid. We fed them to chameleons.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 02:58 PM (k49Sx)

80 Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 02:58 PM (ONvIw)

I hadn't actually noticed them derailing threads.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 02:59 PM (k49Sx)

81 that's a pretty good doodle
Posted by: kallisto at January 22, 2022 02:43 PM (DJFLF)

Naw - I never have met any Morons or 'ettes so I just make up what they look like when I am on some boring business calls. So, the whole AOS world is in my head only.

For instance - here's Martini Farmer from the yesterdays' conference call:

https://ibb.co/1bdy9rm

Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 03:00 PM (5iUNf)

82
I hadn't actually noticed them derailing threads.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 02:59 PM (k49Sx)

I have. They often change the subject for a while. This is probably why they show up later in the thread.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 03:01 PM (ONvIw)

83 FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 02:58 PM

Did you ever try cooking and eating one?

Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 03:01 PM (0ghg2)

84 I very rarely lurk here, but I so dig the knowledge I learn.
Gardens and dresses...all lovely.
I've been experimenting with hydroponics. I tried it years ago when the technology wasn't as refined.
Now I'm excited!
One can at least grow many greens and herbs, and even tomatoes and peppers.
I'm surely hoping to make this work...
I'll surely share as I learn.
And surely, I'm open to suggestions.
Self sufficiency...good.
Those crazy authorities don't like it...F em.
Try,my friends to be as independent as we can be...
COMM out till ONT...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at January 22, 2022 03:02 PM (JfNvZ)

85 VIA, thought most limoncello was made from Santa Theresa lemon variety? But I don't know. Hope some day to get one of those trees (a place in CA whose name I forget has the seedlings), to supplement the meyer tree that itself produces fantastic fruit (and limoncello).

Lettuce garden best in years, probably thanks to perfect weather pattern last 6 weeks - light rains, cool/cold nights, some sunny warm days. Actually need to go out and pull a few romaine (red and green) and bok choi and
mizuna plants to give to the neighbor, there just isn't enough room for them all the way I planted them.

Had a big salad with grilled chicken last night, was great.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 22, 2022 03:03 PM (OTzUX)

86 Eating meal worms sounds like a Klingon dish, don't recall the name.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 03:03 PM (ONvIw)

87 86 Eating meal worms sounds like a Klingon dish, don't recall the name.
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 03:03 PM (ONvIw)

Gagh is best when eaten live, IIRC

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 03:05 PM (ONvIw)

88 Good info on this thread, and love the doodles!

Posted by: skywch at January 22, 2022 03:06 PM (sKjat)

89 I'm also ordering a few new roses for the garden. Last weeks comments on single layer blooms got me thinking that all the rose hips might be nice in the fall.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 03:07 PM (ONvIw)

90 "VIA, thought most limoncello was made from Santa Theresa lemon variety?"

All I know is what our Italian neighbors taught us.
Gaeta was kind of unique for an overseas home port, as there was only one ship home-ported there, and virtually no government housing. So everyone lived in a total immersion of the Italian way.
So Mrs VIA learned how to cook, as well as make limoncello from the community.
And they all swore by the large ones from down around Sorrento. Although as her Limoncello comes out right at around 99 proof, I guess any kind of lemon would taste good.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 22, 2022 03:10 PM (3D/fK)

91 Test.

Posted by: Weekreekfarmgirl at January 22, 2022 03:11 PM (pedVB)

92 91. You're in!

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 03:12 PM (ONvIw)

93 91 Test.
Posted by: Weekreekfarmgirl at January 22, 2022 03:11 PM (pedVB)

B-

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 22, 2022 03:13 PM (lR7Oz)

94 Hello All,
So I guess the thing is that I can comment from my desktop which I have always done but not on my new iPad as it does have a bunch of the auto correct crap that I don't know how to turn off or find but will work on it. I tried to send my comments last week to my other computer and comment that way but I guess all the weird stuff was imbedded in the comment from the iPad, if that makes sense. If I start the comment and do it on the desktop I am good. Computers love 'em and hate 'em.

Posted by: Weekreekfarmgirl at January 22, 2022 03:14 PM (pedVB)

95 Posted by: Weekreekfarmgirl at January 22, 2022 03:14 PM (pedVB)

Your photo at the top of the thread is marvelous.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 22, 2022 03:15 PM (ONvIw)

96 Great photos from WeeKreekFarmGirl!

About those tomatoes: One year I grew dark cherry tomatoes into winter, and they retained their flavor when the nights got cold better than red tomatoes.

Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 03:15 PM (0ghg2)

97 I love that orchid in a glass. I have always set my orchid on a tray of gravel filled with water. This helps the plant to absorb moisture. However, filling the glass and dumping the water seems like a great way to keep the roots moist. Maybe that would help my little plant to bloom more frequently.
KT, thanks for the dress pron. How blessed we have been to have OM as a COB here. You and all of the COBs are loved and appreciated for all that you do!

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at January 22, 2022 03:15 PM (Vf4Y7)

98 Weekreekfarmgirl at January 22, 2022 03:14 PM

You made it through. Yay!

Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 03:16 PM (0ghg2)

99 Mrs. Leggy at January 22, 2022 03:15 PM

Thanks. I miss OM so much.

Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 03:17 PM (0ghg2)

100 Did you ever try cooking and eating one?
Posted by: KT at January 22, 2022 03:01 PM (0ghg2)

No, and I would prefer not to.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 03:17 PM (k49Sx)

101 https://ibb.co/Thn54st
Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 02:41 PM

Hah! Cute!
Did you draw it?

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at January 22, 2022 03:19 PM (nscF9)

102 Thanks all for helping me out. I will try to fix the iPad issue but damn that thing has its quirks. I have 5 start pages open at the bottom when I sign on and can't get rid of them. The whole touch screen requires a gentle touch that I seem to be lacking. It almost seems easier to do the bikini shot and let someone else do it...haha. Not a chance.

Posted by: Weekreekfarmgirl at January 22, 2022 03:20 PM (pedVB)

103 Love the martini farmer doodle, Boswell. Very clever.

Posted by: AlmostYuman at January 22, 2022 03:29 PM (H2AJY)

104 Hah! Cute!
Did you draw it?
Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at January 22, 2022 03:19 PM (nscF9)

Yes -

here's my version of Nurse Ratched - I have no idea why I think of here this way

https://ibb.co/mBW79hz

Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 03:33 PM (5iUNf)

105 I laughed at the Martini Farmer, Doodle. Keep up the good work!. If you've been doing this for a while I'd say your doodling skill is far greater than many doodlers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 22, 2022 03:40 PM (k49Sx)

106 here's my version of Nurse Ratched - I have no idea why I think of here this way

https://ibb.co/mBW79hz
Posted by: Boswell

Lovely but completely different from my mental image, which is 1950s nurse uniform and cap with a pistol on a holster

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at January 22, 2022 03:40 PM (nscF9)

107 Lovely but completely different from my mental image, which is 1950s nurse uniform and cap with a pistol on a holster
Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at January 22, 2022 03:40 PM (nscF9)

Heh.

Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 03:51 PM (5iUNf)

108 I am sooo new to the HQ. Thanks for giving me a seat here.
Y'all are really the best....
I find my best place is up at the ONT. But yeah. Can there ever be a more fantastic place to be?
Thanks for having me here.

Posted by: COMountainMarie at January 22, 2022 03:58 PM (JfNvZ)

109 Thanks for having me here.
Posted by: COMountainMarie at January 22, 2022 03:58 PM (JfNvZ)

Welcome - has anyone ever introduced you to Nood?

Because you've been nooded!

Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 04:00 PM (5iUNf)

110 IPad test

Posted by: Weekreekfarmgirl at January 22, 2022 04:03 PM (pedVB)

111 Well I will be damned. Got it to work on the iPad. I went into settings and turned off a bunch of the editing software, like auto correct and such. Just guessed really. But I simplified it and low and behold. Thanks for all the help and encouragement!

Posted by: Weekreekfarmgirl at January 22, 2022 04:05 PM (pedVB)

112 >>> 84 I very rarely lurk here, but I so dig the knowledge I learn.
Gardens and dresses...all lovely.
I've been experimenting with hydroponics. I tried it years ago when the technology wasn't as refined.
Now I'm excited!
One can at least grow many greens and herbs, and even tomatoes and peppers.
..... [pixy trim]
COMM out till ONT...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at January 22, 2022 03:02 PM (JfNvZ)

What's the elevation where you are? I don't know how much you want to spend but here is a video that has been posted here before, showing Some Guy in NE with a massive greenhouse where he grows all year. I'm sure it could be scaled down. I'm tempted to buy or build a small one of my own for citrus and maybe even coffee.
https://is.gd/JJHWpu

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 22, 2022 04:07 PM (llON8)

113 RIP Oregon Muse... Husband always followed the Chess Thread.

From Boise area: Daytime highs 32-39 F, nighttime lows 25-30 F. We had an air stagnation advisory for most of the week, but the surprise snow on Thurs. seems to have cleared the air. (It was supposed to be warm enough to rain, instead it snowed heavily for a few hours and put down 2 inches - most of it's already gone.)

I'm feeding wheat (from the grocery, 83 cents a pound) to the quail out back, my own birdseed mix to the small birds out front. I can watch the front yard birds from my computer. We did see a quail out front, once last week.

The Johnny Jump-Ups that used to be under 5 inches of snow? Still have flowers! Also, not sure why, but my pots of tulips already had sprouts before this week. I see some hyacinth tips poking up in their bed as well.

Under puttering - finally got the Christmas lights taken down today. Earlier this week we ordered a new chandelier fixture for the dining room, today we picked it up, tomorrow I hold the ladder while Husband removes the old and installs the new. (That makes it sound so easy...)

Posted by: Pat* at January 22, 2022 04:10 PM (2pX/F)

114 Boswell very good

Posted by: Skip at January 22, 2022 04:42 PM (2JoB8)

115 BTW - here's my doodle of Fen confronting Joe Mannix (Not a Cop!) over his chick pics...

https://ibb.co/Thn54st
Posted by: Boswell at January 22, 2022 02:41 PM (5iUNf)

I'm on team Fen
Posted by: CN...FJB

Aww...c'mon; its Tradition ! (nice doodle btw- you're talented !)

Posted by: JT at January 22, 2022 04:45 PM (arJlL)

116 Hiya Mrs. Leggy !

Posted by: JT at January 22, 2022 04:46 PM (arJlL)

117 HOBBY NOOD

Posted by: Skip at January 22, 2022 05:02 PM (2JoB8)

118 Thank you it for the sewing tutorial, I love it. Creative garment construction, including costuming is not yet a lost art.

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