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Overnight Open Thread [12/21/2021]

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The main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the bad girls live.
-- George Carlin
I heard the bells on Christmas Day
Their old, familiar carols play,
And wild and sweet
The words repeat
Of peace on earth, good-will to men!
-- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Let the children have their night of fun and laughter, let the gifts of Father Christmas delight their play. Let us grown-ups share to the full in their unstinted pleasures.
-- Winston Churchill
It is my heart-warm and world-embracing Christmas hope and aspiration that all of us -- the high, the low, the rich, the poor, the admired, the despised, the loved, the hated, the civilized, the savage -- may -- eventually be gathered together in heaven of everlasting rest and peace and bliss -- except the inventor of the telephone.
-- Mark Twain

[Supposedly Twain was offered stock in Alexander Graham Bell's fledgling company, but he declined. He was a famously awful businessman!]

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I enjoy the Christmas season very much, for some, but obviously not all of the reasons that most of you do! The air is brisk (at least around here), the Christmas lights that festoon many homes are always fun to see...even the ridiculously garish ones...festive and special food and drink are front-and-center in the shops, and the tone, even in this cranky and sometimes gruff and nasty part of the country, is softer and happier. Wishing people a "Merry Christmas" is often heartfelt (just don't say "happy holidays" around me!), and at the very least a more pleasant salutation than the barely audible grunts that pass for politeness for most of the year.

And perhaps most of all, the religiosity is not lost on me. It is an important and happy time for Christians, and any focus on devotion to religion, even though it is not mine, is a positive thing for our country and culture. Yes, the commercialization of Christmas is horrid, but there is more...much more...to Christmas than presents and overindulging on eggnog. Like this, or this! But mostly there is a kindness in the air, and it is an opportunity to thank those around us who may richly deserve our thanks but rarely get it.

So thank you all for being such loyal and dedicated readers of this blog, and thank you for creating for yourselves an amazing community that, although it is mostly via the internet, has some grand and kind real-world effects.

Merry Christmas!

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I prefer the cars from the 1960s and even into the early 1970s, but there is something about the colors of many 1950s cars that really pops. I imagine it was a response to the austerity of the WWII years, or maybe it was paint technology improving, or something else. Regardless...they are fun!

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Sefton and I talked about this a bit in our latest podcast, but I haven't been able to get it out of my mind. We fought a war in which 600,000 Americans died, in part to end slavery. We endured societal convulsions and a fair amount of violence as we ended the last vestiges of slavery. Our Supreme Court resoundingly rejected Plessey v. Ferguson's legal precedent in favor of absolute equality.

We did it. It was a good thing. And we were in the main an egalitarian society...one that was mostly colorblind. I liked that America.

But this is pure evil. This is a conscious rejection of much of what American Exceptionalism stands for, and this attitude should be soundly rejected by all good men in our great country.

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And that is it for the serious stuff!

Besides, I'm drinking a very nice bourbon...

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Commenter "Hoplite Housewife" mentioned this in the comments last month and was kind enough to dig it up and send me the link. It meanders around, but it is quite interesting and very respectful of the memory of the many men who fought and died...


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"A Letter From Santa Claus"

My Dear Susie Clemens,

I have received and read all the letters which you and your little sister have written me...I can read your and your baby sister's jagged and fantastic marks without any trouble at all. But I had trouble with those letters which you dictated through your mother and the nurses, for I am a foreigner and cannot read English writing well. You will find that I made no mistakes about the things which you and the baby ordered in your own letters—I went down your chimney at midnight when you were asleep and delivered them all myself--and kissed both of you, too...But...there were...one or two small orders which I could not fill because we ran out of stock...

There was a word or two in your mama's letter which...I took to be "a trunk full of doll's clothes." Is that it? I will call at your kitchen door about nine o'clock this morning to inquire. But I must not see anybody and I must not speak to anybody but you. When the kitchen doorbell rings, George must be blindfolded and sent to the door. You must tell George he must walk on tiptoe and not speak—otherwise he will die someday. Then you must go up to the nursery and stand on a chair or the nurse's bed and put your ear to the speaking tube that leads down to the kitchen and when I whistle through it you must speak in the tube and say, "Welcome, Santa Claus!" Then I will ask whether it was a trunk you ordered or not. If you say it was, I shall ask you what color you want the trunk to be...and then you must tell me every single thing in detail which you want the trunk to contain. Then when I say "Good-by and a merry Christmas to my little Susy Clemens," you must say "Good-by, good old Santa Claus, I thank you very much." Then you must go down into the library and make George close all the doors that open into the main hall, and everybody must keep still for a little while.

I will go to the moon and get those things and in a few minutes I will come down the chimney that belongs to the fireplace that is in the hall—if it is a trunk you want--because I couldn't get such a thing as a trunk down the nursery chimney, you know...If I should leave any snow in the hall, you must tell George to sweep it into the fireplace, for I haven't time to do such things. George must not use a broom, but a rag—else he will die someday...If my boot should leave a stain on the marble, George must not holystone it away. Leave it there always in memory of my visit; and whenever you look at it or show it to anybody you must let it remind you to be a good little girl. Whenever you are naughty and someone points to that mark which your good old Santa Claus's boot made on the marble, what will you say, little sweetheart?

Good-by for a few minutes, till I come down to the world and ring the kitchen doorbell.

Your loving Santa Claus
Whom people sometimes call
"The Man in the Moon"

-- Samuel Langhorne Clemens
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It's a race between the most irritating music I have heard in a very long time and the amazing robotics!

Which won for you?

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This is strangely compelling to watch, and I am not sure why. Of course it might bore the crap out of most of you and hotair.com will get a huge bump in clicks tonight, but I hope not!


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Oh hell, why not one more glimpse into Dildo's soundtrack! Morons of a certain age will remember this one.


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1 Mhmm.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 21, 2021 09:45 PM (+WWsf)

2 Howdy!

Posted by: JQ at December 21, 2021 09:46 PM (dB4Iz)

3

Hey, everybody!

Posted by: Zettai at December 21, 2021 09:47 PM (pchrw)

4 good evening

Posted by: wing at December 21, 2021 09:49 PM (PlW9M)

5 Nice content!

Posted by: sinmi at December 21, 2021 09:49 PM (A5IVt)

6 LOL I've listened to a *lot* of Carlin, but never heard that one!

Good evening, hordelings!

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 21, 2021 09:50 PM (OssQ4)

7 Happy evening all!

Posted by: Heidi at December 21, 2021 09:50 PM (5aWFq)

8 Evenin' Horde!

Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 21, 2021 09:53 PM (18UdP)

9 Imma send that pregnant lady cigarette ad to my daughter who is about to drop another grand baby in Japan...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 21, 2021 09:54 PM (18UdP)

10 The Babylon Bee has an interview with Elon Musk.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 21, 2021 09:54 PM (UUBmN)

11 Wow. Top twenty?

Posted by: Son of Sam the Butcher at December 21, 2021 09:55 PM (VJBq9)

12 I have the heater core on the Jeep.

That's really not what I wanted to do this weekend but such is life.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2021 09:56 PM (Pxkfv)

13
g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 21, 2021 09:57 PM (DUIap)

14 Speaking of race relations, didn't this Omicron stuff come from South Africa? I'm not sure that I have it, but I must admit that I suddenly have the irrepressible urge to binge watch Neil Blomkamp movies, buy lots of krugerrands, and make the Western world super angry with my social policies.

Posted by: CppThis at December 21, 2021 09:58 PM (UewuT)

15

Everyone's still off savouring the content, I suppose

Posted by: Zettai at December 21, 2021 09:58 PM (pchrw)

16 G'evening all, whatssup?

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2021 09:58 PM (55Qr6)

17 CBD with the mystery click.

Posted by: davidt at December 21, 2021 09:58 PM (gjH3l)

18 @12

>>I have the heater core on the Jeep. That's really not what I wanted to do this weekend but such is life.

You should really proof read your stuff before you hit post.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2021 09:58 PM (Pxkfv)

19 When is Boston Dynamics going to team with the Real Doll company? That will be the beginning of the end. You can't stop the signal Mal.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 09:59 PM (H/pb5)

20 Not even close, but tonight I will not blame Conor.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 09:59 PM (hOUT3)

21
The Babylon Bee has an interview with Elon Musk.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 21, 2021 09:54 PM


Dan Carlin has an interview with Musk on his latest Hardcore History Addendum podcast

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 21, 2021 09:59 PM (DUIap)

22 @18

>>You should really proof read your stuff before you hit post.

But where's the fun in that?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2021 09:59 PM (Pxkfv)

23 Evening, CBD, assorted 'ettes and 'rons, and all the ships at sea.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 21, 2021 09:59 PM (Agr8U)

24 No first for me. I was reading about the James Webb Space Telescope on another site and lost track of time.

Posted by: Theodore at December 21, 2021 10:00 PM (GJnvT)

25 @22

>>But where's the fun in that?

It's all fun and games with this guy, sheesh.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2021 10:00 PM (Pxkfv)

26 The robot dog video is the stuff of nightmares. They remind me more of spiders than dogs here.

Posted by: JuJuBee at December 21, 2021 10:01 PM (mNhhD)

27 The lead photo is so perfect, it must be a painting, but knowing that purist CBD is the COB, I am betting it is a real scene

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 10:01 PM (hOUT3)

28
VANILLA

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2021 10:01 PM (HCRRg)

29 And in despair I bowed my head:
"There is no peace on earth," I said,
"For hate is strong, and mocks the song
Of peace on earth, good will to men."

Then pealed the bells more loud and deep:
"God is not dead, nor doth He sleep;
The wrong shall fail, the right prevail,
With peace on earth, good will to men


Those two verses both choke me up, then remind me that victory is coming.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 21, 2021 10:01 PM (H2W7g)

30 I bought an old school health book that advises that you use DDT dust preventatively just in case of lice. It also talks about how you shouldn't shower too much, such as DAILY.

Posted by: Coquettish Haberdasher at December 21, 2021 10:02 PM (buTO7)

31 forty-FIRST!!!

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 21, 2021 10:04 PM (h1jJh)

32 I don't like the "music" nor the amazing robotics.

Posted by: yep at December 21, 2021 10:04 PM (uE+or)

33 Yay, ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 21, 2021 10:04 PM (SchxB)

34 Happy-ish Tuesday Evening, all y'all ...

Posted by: Adriane the Eyebrow Raised Critic ... at December 21, 2021 10:04 PM (okV1R)

35 You should really proof read your stuff before you hit post.


Proof Readers "R" not us!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 10:04 PM (hOUT3)

36 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 21, 2021 10:01 PM (H2W7g)

Longfellow could write!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:05 PM (Q9lwr)

37 I could and should have taken a number of photos similar to the one on top. Woodstock , NY / Catskills .

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 10:05 PM (H/pb5)

38 Y'know what'd make this great ONT even mo bettah?

*pours maple syrup on top of ONT* mmm...larrupin' good!

*runs serpentine!*

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 10:05 PM (QzJWU)

39 but there is something about the colors of many 1950s cars that really pops.

In the fifties my parents had an aqua colored Pontiac. It was beautiful.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 10:07 PM (+lVUW)

40 *runs serpentine!*

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 10:05 PM (QzJWU)

Shot my Buck Mark last weekend, then today I stripped it and cleaned it. The barrel is amazingly heavy!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:07 PM (Q9lwr)

41 Aaah! A '56 Caddie Eldorado. Very pretty car, and also a well-built and sturdy car. They could get pretty darn good gas mileage, despite their size. I had a '56 Fleetwood Sixty Special for about a year, and I liked it right well.

Posted by: Dildo, NFLD at December 21, 2021 10:07 PM (P3gRi)

42 DDT is a fine example of how The Science is rarely actually settled, especially when there's money to be made.

Posted by: CppThis at December 21, 2021 10:07 PM (UewuT)

43 Fckin coyotes were yipping and yowling not far from the house tonight, even closer than last Monday.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 21, 2021 10:08 PM (llON8)

44 Wtf. A CBD ONT?

Seriously though. The Air Force flash mob has me in tears. I would have loved to have been there.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 21, 2021 10:08 PM (U2p+3)

45 Good evening everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:08 PM (mD/uy)

46 Off, island sock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2021 10:08 PM (P3gRi)

47 That's the new trick for segregation from the leftys, get the black population to self-segregate from the rest of the population. Make them feel so 2nd class that they want to self segregate to feel more equal. But they never get or feel equal segregated but they now feel as if that's the only way to go. Gives leftys what they want and they don't have to take any blame in the process.

Posted by: Janir at December 21, 2021 10:08 PM (7FTeO)

48 I heard the new White House dog shit Joe Biden's pants

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 21, 2021 10:08 PM (h1jJh)

49 No first for me. I was reading about the James Webb Space Telescope on another site and lost track of time.
Posted by: Theodore at December 21, 2021 10:00 PM (GJnvT)

Just finished watching a show about the Hubble Telescope. Much more important than most people realize.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 10:09 PM (H/pb5)

50 Greetings:

For me, it's always the Midnight Masses of my youth in the Bronx of the 50s, crunching along through (hopefully) several inches of crusty snow in the cold and dark December night carrying my cassock and surplice to demonstrate my varsity level altar-boying skills complete with celluloid collars and spicy red tie.

Posted by: 11B40 at December 21, 2021 10:09 PM (uuklp)

51 Fckin coyotes were yipping and yowling not far from the house tonight, even closer than last Monday.

You've already set claymores at the perimeter?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 21, 2021 10:09 PM (SchxB)

52 DDT is a fine example of how The Science is rarely actually settled, especially when there's money to be made.
Posted by: CppThis at December 21, 2021 10:07 PM (UewuT)

Heck of it is, that ad for Black Flag is a lot closer to the truth of DDT safety than Rachel Carson's smear job was.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2021 10:11 PM (P3gRi)

53 Longfellow could write!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:05 PM (Q9lwr)


Indeed.

We sing that every year as a hymn in church. Always one of my favorites.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 21, 2021 10:11 PM (5We2S)

54 ..Shot my Buck Mark last weekend, then today I stripped it and cleaned it. The barrel is amazingly heavy!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:07 PM (Q9lwr)


That's the feel of quality, there, amigo. Do expect you'll have to slightly re-zero it next time out, as removing that rear sight assembly doesn't always go "to zero" on re-assembly. I'll take mine down about annually, but otherwise, it's a bore snake and spray cleaner on the rails and a toothbrush fulla the stuff on the bolt-face, feed ramp and rear-face of the barrel/chamber area. Keep the feed and slide areas clean and lubed, and it'll run.

The Buckmark UDX Pro will spoil the hell outta you in the .22 pistol world.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 10:12 PM (QzJWU)

55
The Churchill quote dated from Christmas, 1941 when he was in Washington conferring with FDR.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 21, 2021 10:12 PM (/U27+)

56 I challenge Morons to this:

Be more generous than you should be. Give more to someone who "doesn't deserve it," a snarky coworker, a "friend," an in-law you really don't care for...

Do it. Not to get anything back. But just because.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 21, 2021 10:13 PM (U2p+3)

57 Those robots remind me of the asshole robots in HL2:Ep2. Bad memories of them wrecking my sticky bombs.

Posted by: me at December 21, 2021 10:13 PM (5jdq3)

58 Be more generous than you should be. Give more to someone who "doesn't deserve it," a snarky coworker, a "friend," an in-law you really don't care for...

Do it. Not to get anything back. But just because.
Posted by: nurse ratched

You're serious about this "love thy neighbor as thyself" stuff, aren't you?

jk - always good advice Nurse.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:14 PM (mD/uy)

59 But if we use DDT, people in the third world will live!

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:14 PM (r1z5A)

60 Thank you for including the video of the Battle of the Somme. I'm going to watch it later. Coincidentally, about two nights ago I watched a biographical movie about J. R. Tolkien's early life. It included his participation in WWI. There was also a similar movie about J. D. Salinger that showed his participation in WWII, from the DDay Invasion, across Europe, right up to liberating a concentration camp. These movies help us to appreciate what soldiers go through when they serve.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 10:15 PM (+lVUW)

61
You're serious about this "love thy neighbor as thyself" stuff, aren't you?

__________

I wish I could be nicer to people, the stupid bastards.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 21, 2021 10:15 PM (/U27+)

62 But if we use DDT, people in the third world will live!
Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:14 PM (r1z5A)

Pssst. Don't tell anyone, but a lot of folks in the Third World are using DDT.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2021 10:16 PM (P3gRi)

63 And in despair I bowed my head:
"There is no peace on earth," I said,
"For hate is strong, and mocks the song
Of peace on earth, good will to men."
Then pealed the bells more loud and deep:
"God is not dead, nor does He sleep,
For Christ is here; His Spirit near
Brings peace on earth, good will to men."
When men repent and turn from sin
The Prince of Peace then enters in,
And grace imparts within their hearts
His peace on earth, good will to men.

Posted by: 29Victor at December 21, 2021 10:16 PM (BJKQV)

64 Do expect you'll have to slightly re-zero it next time out, as removing that rear sight assembly doesn't always go "to zero" on re-assembly.

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 10:12 PM (QzJWU)

That makes sense, but that just means I'll have to shoot it a bit more!

I shot cheap plinking ammo and it was nice and accurate. I have some good stuff that might be fun next time...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:16 PM (Q9lwr)

65 Be more generous than you should be. Give more to someone who "doesn't deserve it," a snarky coworker, a "friend," an in-law you really don't care for...

Do it. Not to get anything back. But just because.
Posted by: nurse ratched


A co-worker and his wife would not exchange gifts. They agreed to pick a deserving family in the Central District and buy the children toys.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:16 PM (r1z5A)

66 Do it. Not to get anything back. But just because.
Posted by: nurse ratched


nurse, you set a high, but righteous bar!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 10:17 PM (hOUT3)

67 Love the Cadillac picture. I owned a '64 SdV and it was a great car, and I know people love the fins from '57-'64, but 1948-1956 was the golden age of Cadillac as far as style. The '49 fastback is at the top of my Dream Car list.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 21, 2021 10:17 PM (lNHqD)

68
Watching the local news. What the hell is a "game room"? Because lots of people seem to get shot at them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 21, 2021 10:17 PM (/U27+)

69 Good thing the copyright and attendant disclaimers/rules aren't in effect until 2028. You may all disconnect the ShowerCams.

And blessed longest-night-of-the-year to you all.

Posted by: Flyover at December 21, 2021 10:18 PM (Rbu5d)

70 Regarding DDT/Rachel Carson - It would be interesting to know exactly when I came to the realization that the press, whatever form it takes, was biased and trying to lead me. Not just now and then, but every. single. day.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:18 PM (mD/uy)

71 Pssst. Don't tell anyone, but a lot of folks in the Third World are using DDT.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Heh, they have my support.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:18 PM (r1z5A)

72 I wish I could be nicer to people, the stupid bastards.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 21, 2021 10:15 PM (/U27+)


I strongly suspect you use up all the good will on the dogs!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 10:18 PM (hOUT3)

73 Posted by: 29Victor at December 21, 2021 10:16 PM (BJKQV)

.....

Yes, Longfellow's poem is more pointed than the hymn I quoted from.

Thank you for that.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 21, 2021 10:19 PM (5We2S)

74 "And that is it for the serious stuff!

Besides, I'm drinking a very nice bourbon..."


Howdy CBD. What is the very nice bourbon you're drinking?

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 10:20 PM (mZUr4)

75 57 Those robots remind me of the asshole robots in HL2:Ep2. Bad memories of them wrecking my sticky bombs.

Posted by: me at December 21, 2021 10:13 PM (5jdq3)

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Ugh, hunters. I had forgotten about those damned things. It's a shame Valve abandoned that series. I looked forward to HL3 for about ten years before throwing in the towel of hope.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 21, 2021 10:20 PM (lNHqD)

76 Heh, they have my support.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:18 PM (r1z5A)

It's an easy calculation...Save my family from Malaria, or make a rich liberal in a rich country feel good about himself.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:20 PM (Q9lwr)

77 New Zealand joins the rest of the West in its descent into barbarism, but with a special Kiwi twist.

It is now official government policy that Maori creation and other myths be taught in science classes, and treated as equivalent to "Western" science. Some members of the Royal Society of New Zealand are being cancelled for objecting to this.

Well, a paper was published in Nature trying to explain why Antarctic ice cores show high rates of carbon deposition starting 700 years ago. This was about the time the Maori settled New Zealand, and the Maori are known to have set forest fires to clear agricultural land, so the hypothesis is that this led to the extra carbon in the Antarctic ice cores.

This, of course, is Politically Unacceptable. The "Acting Dean of the Faculty of Maori and Indigenous Studies, University of Waikato" wrote a furious rejoinder, which said, in part:

"This involvement starts from the basic premise that we as Maori will tell our own stories and control our own knowledge."

I.e., white people are not allowed to do research on certain topics.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 21, 2021 10:21 PM (I2/tG)

78 >>> 51
.....
You've already set claymores at the perimeter?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 21, 2021 10:09 PM (SchxB)

LOL

That would keep them away for a while!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 21, 2021 10:21 PM (llON8)

79 Well, I gave all my co-workers bags of candy with a $5 Starbucks gift card. I gave out Linder truffles & Giradelli chocolates. There are over 50 people in my office. Did I ever mention I work in downtown Austinistan and most of my coarse leftist???
That's enough love thy neighbor for me....

Posted by: lin-duh at December 21, 2021 10:22 PM (UUBmN)

80 Thanks so much for ROMEO'S TUNE, CDB! I consider '76-'86 Peak America and that certainly would be on the soundtrack. We will never see anything similar again, but by God, we did get to see it.

Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2021 10:22 PM (nMx88)

81 Steve Forbert FTW

Now if I can get you hooked on The FZ

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2021 10:23 PM (aA3+G)

82 What is the very nice bourbon you're drinking?

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 10:20 PM (mZUr4)

A gift...a Makers Mark special bottling. It's 110 proof, single barrel, and surprisingly smooth. It's got a bit of bite from the alcohol (I like that) but not too spicy, so I am assuming it's not got a lot of rye...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:23 PM (Q9lwr)

83 Here is a painting demo from one of my favorite artists.

https://tinyurl.com/yypypua4

Sometimes the creative process is indistinguishable from magic.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2021 10:23 PM (Pxkfv)

84 ..Do it. Not to get anything back. But just because.
Posted by: nurse ratched



I shall endeavor to do so, and promise to report my results here, either soon or in the intermediate future.

And thank you for a wonderful thought on Celebrating HIS Seson!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 10:23 PM (QzJWU)

85 Be more generous than you should be. Give more to someone who "doesn't deserve it," a snarky coworker, a "friend," an in-law you really don't care for...

Do it. Not to get anything back. But just because.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 21, 2021 10:13 PM (U2p+3)


I have to say this for my family, we do a good job of staying away from politics during holiday gatherings. No good can come from bringing up Biden's dementia and pants shitting at Christmas dinner.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 10:23 PM (+lVUW)

86 I believe the guy who created DDT actually ingested some DDT to demonstrate its safety.

Or did I dream that?

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 10:23 PM (H/pb5)

87 Maybe Rachel Carson can write a book about the coof vax...

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:23 PM (r1z5A)

88 hello

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 21, 2021 10:24 PM (YglAn)

89 Learned to drive in a 1953 Pontiac Chieftain. Built like a tank. Had the sun visor. Looked to buy one a while back. Too old to pursue now. https://tinyurl.com/5fzvkx8b

Posted by: Javems at December 21, 2021 10:24 PM (AmoqO)

90 Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2021 10:22 PM (nMx8

My pleasure!

I have no idea why I thought of Steve Forbert, but as soon as I did I knew I had to use it tonight.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:25 PM (Q9lwr)

91
Just finished watching a show about the Hubble Telescope. Much more important than most people realize.
Posted by: Just a side note


It was a national joke at first because of a defective lens but after it was repaired it went from joke to WOW!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2021 10:25 PM (63Dwl)

92 You should check out my Longfellow!

Posted by: Thornton Mellon at December 21, 2021 10:25 PM (NhqyL)

93 >>> 87 Maybe Rachel Carson can write a book about the coof vax...
Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:23 PM (r1z5A)

Isn't she long dead?

Probably because YOU weren't wearing a mask!! /////

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 21, 2021 10:25 PM (llON8)

94 Regarding DDT/Rachel Carson - It would be interesting to know exactly when I came to the realization that the press, whatever form it takes, was biased and trying to lead me. Not just now and then, but every. single. day.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:18 PM (mD/uy)


I got my initial education on the nefarious ways of the media when I first tuned in to Rush Limbaugh in 1991. Then reading Bernie Goldberg's book "Bias" in the mid - late 90s. Then the early internet provided great sites like Newsbusters.

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 10:25 PM (mZUr4)

95 A co-worker and his wife would not exchange gifts. They agreed to pick a deserving family in the Central District and buy the children toys.
Posted by: Some Rat at December

The snarky part of me wants to say "vet the shit out of them."
There's a LOT of people in Seattle who gathered that extra 600 bucks a month on top of unemployment and didn't pay their rent. They made bank.
I'm talking about the little people. Your bus driver. Give him a 20 dollar Safeway gift card. Or the bagger at the grocery store. How about even the busboy at your breakfast joint.
Or the sibling who is being an asshole.
Or the friend who won't speak to you because you think forced jabs are anti freedom.
Reach out.
Try.
And if you're rejected again, take solace that you tried.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 21, 2021 10:26 PM (U2p+3)

96 Maybe Rachel Carson can write a book about the coof vax...
Posted by: Some Rat

Isn't she long dead?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

I don't think she will get better.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:26 PM (mD/uy)

97 I believe the guy who created DDT actually ingested some DDT to demonstrate its safety.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 10:23 PM (H/pb5)

You can drink Roundup without any ill effects.

[I'm not joking]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:26 PM (Q9lwr)

98 Do it. Not to get anything back. But just because.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Some dude in the McDonald's drive through in front of me had the nerve to pay for my order yesterday! The nerve! I got him back though. I paid for the guy behind me. Lots of "Thank You" shouts. I hope it went on for a long while. Made my day!

Posted by: President Donald Trump at December 21, 2021 10:26 PM (QMwOT)

99 My boss and I had our annual Christmas bottle swap tonight.

I got a bottle of Weller's Special Reserve.

He got a Delord 25 Yr Armagnac.

Good buzzes ahead!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 21, 2021 10:26 PM (5We2S)

100 > I looked forward to HL3 for about ten years before throwing in the towel of hope.

Well, still no sequel, but they did make a VR prequel which was pretty decent. I wouldn't buy a VR system for it, but I unexpectedly got one for Christmas, and that was about the only game I played on it before I got bored with it.

Posted by: me at December 21, 2021 10:26 PM (5jdq3)

101 Evening.

Posted by: Robert at December 21, 2021 10:26 PM (4gzXy)

102 I believe the guy who created DDT actually ingested some DDT to demonstrate its safety.

Or did I dream that?
Posted by: Just a side note


Know it happened when folks were freaking out about malathion.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:26 PM (r1z5A)

103 I'm too lazy to look it up, but I remember reading that Twain's bad experience investing in a typewriter company made him so pessimistic on technology that he changed the whole ending of A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court as a result.

Posted by: Dr. T at December 21, 2021 10:27 PM (Vgw1E)

104 You talkin' 'bout your 44Mag, CBD?

Will take my answer off the air. About to sit down to the turkey frame soup. Left over turkey breast frame (smoked/roasted on grill on T-giving, then frozen), which was lazily carved (leaving lots of good meat), carrots, onions, seasonings. Slow cooker, a few hours.

Bourbon: sort of a fringe dabbler, so have bought/tried -

Templeton Rye Rum Cask Finish (OK)
Woodinville Port Cask Finish (I like)
Winchester Double Oaked (finished "with sherry staves") - not bad, leave it to air for 20 minutes after pouring

More of a rum explorer at the moment.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 21, 2021 10:27 PM (OTzUX)

105 I challenge Morons to this:

Be more generous than you should be. Give more to someone who "doesn't deserve it," a snarky coworker, a "friend," an in-law you really don't care for...

Do it. Not to get anything back. But just because.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 21, 2021 10:13 PM (U2p+3)

Does not going on a murder spree count?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Robert at December 21, 2021 10:27 PM (ih0IE)

106 The FZ

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2021 10:23 PM (aA3+G)

It. Will. Never. Happen.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:27 PM (Q9lwr)

107 @82:

That's likely the Cask Strength. I bought the Private Selection (55) for the holidays, and it falls short.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2021 10:27 PM (nMx88)

108 68
Watching the local news. What the hell is a "game room"? Because lots of people seem to get shot at them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 21, 2021 10:17 PM (/U27+)


People take that board game Risk pretty seriously.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 10:28 PM (+lVUW)

109 97 Yes. It is insoluble in water. It can cause things like enzymes in aqueous solutions to precipitate out though.

Posted by: President Donald Trump at December 21, 2021 10:28 PM (QMwOT)

110 Looks at time.

Sighs

Bids everyone a good night

Continues to not murder

Posted by: Robert at December 21, 2021 10:28 PM (r+12T)

111 A gift...a Makers Mark special bottling. It's 110 proof, single barrel, and surprisingly smooth. It's got a bit of bite from the alcohol (I like that) but not too spicy, so I am assuming it's not got a lot of rye...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:23 PM (Q9lwr)


Makers has no rye. It's 2nd grain is wheat. Similar to Weller and the Van Winkles. Rumor is that Julian "Pappy" Van Winkle himself advised the original distillers of Makers Mark on their mashbill.

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 10:28 PM (mZUr4)

112 Probably because YOU weren't wearing a mask!! /////
Posted by: Helena Handbasket


If 'ahem' certain folks were to cash in from the coof, I would gladly take credit.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:29 PM (r1z5A)

113

The girthiness of this evening's ONT exhibits is matched only by the pithiness of the text.

Posted by: Miklosian Approvals LLP at December 21, 2021 10:30 PM (QzkSJ)

114 Oh, and tasted some Frey Ranch rye at a friend's recently. Wow, nice.

Virginia City NV is touristy, but has some nice things to see. Just looked at Twain's first job site (newspaper), office still there. Mine tour and history of the silver rush (which started as a gold rush) are very interesting. Seeing the old mine heads/buildings still all around the area is cool.

Yeah, that's some free association commenting. Turkey soup time.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 21, 2021 10:30 PM (OTzUX)

115 People take that board game Risk pretty seriously.
Posted by: nerdygirl

It's trying to defend the Ukraine that gets them every time.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:30 PM (mD/uy)

116 @111:

Yep. The higher alcohol content Maker's seems smoother for that very reason, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2021 10:30 PM (nMx88)

117 Al Pacino Approved ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/media

*scroll down

Posted by: kbdabear at December 21, 2021 10:30 PM (qAR6u)

118 That's likely the Cask Strength. I bought the Private Selection (55) for the holidays, and it falls short.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2021 10:27 PM (nMx8

I have a hard and fast rule: I never look a gift bourbon in the mouth!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:30 PM (Q9lwr)

119 @118:

OK, I'm going for my inferior 55 after that!

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2021 10:31 PM (nMx88)

120 Posted by: lin-duh at December 21, 2021 10:22 PM (UUBmN)

I had already given half of the approximate 10 different healthcare workers that tend to my mom , $25 gift cards when I got an e-mail from the supervisor that since they were a Medicare approved healthcare company their employees could not accept any gift over $5 and workers would be returning the cards. I replied that Medicare wasn't paying for any of the services but they said that didn't matter.

Bah Freaking Humbug.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 10:31 PM (H/pb5)

121 Watching the local news. What the hell is a "game room"? Because lots of people seem to get shot at them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 21, 2021 10:17 PM (/U27+)

People take that board game Risk pretty seriously.
Posted by: nerdygirl

Parcheesi Dens

Posted by: Miklos prefers Stratego at December 21, 2021 10:31 PM (QzkSJ)

122 Makers has no rye. It's 2nd grain is wheat.

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 10:28 PM (mZUr4)

Makes sense. It was nicely balanced, although I have no idea what it cost and I am not going to check.

See #118.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:32 PM (Q9lwr)

123 Bitter Clinger I'll have some armagnac questions later.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 21, 2021 10:32 PM (OTzUX)

124 I'm drinking a new Irish for me.
Kern.

Haven't made up my mind if I like it or REALLY like it.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 21, 2021 10:32 PM (U2p+3)

125 What a very lovely Christmas ONT, CBD.

Thank you.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 21, 2021 10:32 PM (TdMsT)

126 I once gifted someone bourbon. Then afterwards he told me he only liked scotch. What happened next will SHOCK you.

Posted by: ... at December 21, 2021 10:32 PM (ZpC60)

127
Watching the local news. What the hell is a "game room"? Because lots of people seem to get shot at them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 21, 2021 10:17 PM (/U27+)


A card room would be my guess.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2021 10:33 PM (oeVy+)

128 The Somme. What an incredible wast of human life.

Posted by: Javems at December 21, 2021 10:33 PM (AmoqO)

129 Thank you.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 21, 2021 10:32 PM (TdMsT)

Thank you for being a devoted reader and commenter!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:33 PM (Q9lwr)

130 What the hell is a "game room"?


Ever see the movie Rounders?

Posted by: davidt at December 21, 2021 10:33 PM (gjH3l)

131 Does not going on a murder spree count?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Robert

Mini-spree.

Moderation in all things.

Posted by: Ancient Greek Homo Philosopher Miklosopoulos at December 21, 2021 10:33 PM (QzkSJ)

132 Watching the local news. What the hell is a "game room"? Because lots of people seem to get shot at them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Used to be called the "billiard" room...but that place was a fricking charnel house.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:34 PM (r1z5A)

133 125 What a very lovely Christmas ONT, CBD. Thank you.
Posted by: Ladyl at December 21, 2021 10:32 PM (TdMsT)


Evening, {{{Ladyl}}}

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 21, 2021 10:34 PM (Agr8U)

134 More violence at the Stratego table.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2021 10:34 PM (LtGlA)

135 106 The FZ

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2021 10:23 PM (aA3+G)

It. Will. Never. Happen.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:27 PM (Q9lwr)


St Alfonzo's Pancake Breakfast while I eat French Toast with Maple Syrup.....It's like heaven!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2021 10:35 PM (aA3+G)

136 "Started as a Gold Rush"

Yeah, the story of the Comstock Lode is great. Everybody was prospecting for gold. Conditions were terrible, and when it rained, everything became bogged down in a tenacious, heavy thick blue mud. It was everywhere. Eventually a geologist or somebody who knew what they were doing sent off a sample of the "blue mud" for assay, and it came back something like 80% pure silver. He went around quietly buying up all the "worthless" gold claims he could. Made a fortune. It was basically an entire mountain of silver. So much silver it interfered with the historic 16-1 monetary peg and affected national electoral montary policy politics.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 21, 2021 10:35 PM (pQrYJ)

137 Thank you for being a devoted reader and commenter!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


Yeah, but she'll shoulder check ya into next week at the slightest provocation.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:35 PM (r1z5A)

138 I believe in TX the "game room" is limited stakes poker and such.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 21, 2021 10:35 PM (llON8)

139
Watching the local news. What the hell is a "game room"? Because lots of people seem to get shot at them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Those Rock'em Sock'em Robots will knock your block off!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2021 10:36 PM (63Dwl)

140 If you like the flavor profile of wheated bourbons like Maker's, one that flies under the radar for the price point is Larceny. It's seriously good and seriously less than 30 bucks.

Posted by: ballistic at December 21, 2021 10:36 PM (oXNqT)

141 124 I'm drinking a new Irish for me.
Kern.

Haven't made up my mind if I like it or REALLY like it.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 21, 2021 10:32 PM (U2p+3)

After a pint, does it really matter?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2021 10:36 PM (aA3+G)

142 Ah, and {{{Ladyl}}} joins this happy band!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 10:36 PM (hOUT3)

143 It was a national joke at first because of a defective lens but after it was repaired it went from joke to WOW!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2021 10:25 PM (63Dwl)

Yeah they couldn't change the lens so they replaced the camera .

Come on NASA. Measure Twice, Cut Once !

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 10:36 PM (H/pb5)

144 Yes, Longfellow's poem is more pointed than the hymn I quoted from.

Thank you for that.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 21, 2021 10:19 PM (5We2S)

Thank you. But I didn't know you'd already posted when I posted that :/. Both the poem and the hymn though remind us that the "Peace on Earth" proclaimed by the angels isn't peace between men, it isn't some touchy-feely sentiment about "world peace" like it has come to be interpreted in popular culture, but instead it's a peace between God and individuals brought about through the gift of His Son.

"Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among people with whom He is pleased."

Posted by: 29Victor at December 21, 2021 10:37 PM (BJKQV)

145 People get stabby in pool halls.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 21, 2021 10:37 PM (LtGlA)

146 Those Rock'em Sock'em Robots will knock your block off!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Hit 'em in the jaw and they go "ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!"

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:38 PM (mD/uy)

147 Knives are to be sheathed at all times unless written waiver is received by our attorneys.

bluebell kindly pointed out that it's not specified what the knives need to be sheathed in.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 21, 2021 10:38 PM (a3Q+t)

148 People get stabby in pool halls.
Posted by: Boss Moss

*sharpens pool cue*

Posted by: W. C. Miklos-Fields at December 21, 2021 10:38 PM (QzkSJ)

149 Come on NASA. Measure Twice, Cut Once !
Posted by: Just a side note


The real reason is hilarious. "We forgot to account for weightlessness."

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:38 PM (r1z5A)

150 It was basically an entire mountain of silver. So much silver it interfered with the historic 16-1 monetary peg and affected national electoral montary policy politics.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 21, 2021 10:35 PM (pQrYJ)

That is hilarious. I was completely unaware of it. Thank you for that.

Posted by: 29Victor at December 21, 2021 10:38 PM (BJKQV)

151 Makers has no rye. It's 2nd grain is wheat.

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 10:28 PM (mZUr4)

Makes sense. It was nicely balanced, although I have no idea what it cost and I am not going to check.

See #118.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:32 PM (Q9lwr)


This is the first lesson for you as I help prepare you for your trip to Kentucky

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 10:39 PM (mZUr4)

152 rams. that is all.

Posted by: crockpot stew at December 21, 2021 10:39 PM (oSX/P)

153 So now all these small ll businesses in Chicago and elsewhere, many struggling even in good times, will now have the added burden of checking everybody's ID and vax papers. Places that had no lines to get in will now have them and those that had them will now be even longer. Do places like McDonalds check at the door or the counter?


What a f***ing disaster this is going to be. And people actually vote for this shit and will continue to do so.

Posted by: Ripley at December 21, 2021 10:39 PM (PTDkx)

154 Watching the construction of the Webb Telescope now. The total IQ in that room must be unbelievable.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 10:40 PM (H/pb5)

155 Those Rock'em Sock'em Robots will knock your block off!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Oh yeah?

Posted by: G.I. Joe with Kung-Fu Grip at December 21, 2021 10:40 PM (QzkSJ)

156 The real reason is hilarious. "We forgot to account for weightlessness."
Posted by: Some Rat

Top. Men.

Almost as bad as (mis)fueling an aircraft and getting gals/liters messed up.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:40 PM (mD/uy)

157 Posted by: rhomboid at December 21, 2021 10:32 PM (OTzUX)

....

I'll answer the best I can.

I will warn in advance, I tend toward the layman's description and less towards the technical knowledge.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 21, 2021 10:41 PM (5We2S)

158 Good evening morons and thanks cbd

No, they're all getting the same marching orders from the junta regarding vaccine passports.

Your compliance prolongs this nightmare.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 21, 2021 10:42 PM (EZebt)

159 ❘❘❘❙❙❚♠ Hi.

MisHum, you've outdone yourself with tonight's hidden click video! Frank Zappa & & Bing Crosby doing White Christmas in Centerville was great!

💯

Posted by: mindful webworker - First! comment of mine tonight at December 21, 2021 10:43 PM (OIPBq)

160 If you like the flavor profile of wheated bourbons like Maker's, one that flies under the radar for the price point is Larceny. It's seriously good and seriously less than 30 bucks.
Posted by: ballistic at December 21, 2021 10:36 PM (oXNqT)


I very much enjoy Weller and Makers, but I find Larceny kinda lacking. Not sure why, just doesn't do it for me. For the same price, I'd go Makers every time. But that's just my preference. I appreciate that there are bourbons that others enjoy at such a great price.

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 10:43 PM (mZUr4)

161 So now all these small ll businesses in Chicago and elsewhere, many struggling even in good times, will now have the added burden of checking everybody's ID and vax papers. Places that had no lines to get in will now have them and those that had them will now be even longer. Do places like McDonalds check at the door or the counter?


What a f***ing disaster this is going to be. And people actually vote for this shit and will continue to do so.
Posted by: Ripley


Took the granddaughter to lunch yesterday. "Dining room closed, take out only."
Literally walked across the parking lot to a Vietnamese Restuarant that would seat us and take my money.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:43 PM (r1z5A)

162 Larceny. It's seriously good and seriously less than 30 bucks.

Posted by: ballistic at December 21, 2021 10:36 PM (oXNqT)

I have had it but am not a big fan...

A little hot for my taste. Or maybe just a bit unbalanced.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:44 PM (Q9lwr)

163 120 Just a side note

My mother had dementia and my sis and I would each give two of the caregivers that were the most attentive. We just asked what their hubby or significant other's name was and said, "Here's a Christmas card for Joe." We'd then include a nice GC. When she died, we gave them thank-you cards w cash at her visitation. Those "rules" make no sense to me.

Posted by: EveR at December 21, 2021 10:44 PM (4dsGu)

164 My favorite entertainment of the day was Boston's mayor getting heckled. I'm sure Ace or a COB mentioned it today, but if anyone wants to see it:

https://tinyurl.com/39aefmp8

Bostonians are equal opportunity hecklers, which is nice to see.

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 21, 2021 10:44 PM (/+bwe)

165 St Alfonzo's Pancake Breakfast while I eat French Toast with Maple Syrup.....It's like heaven!
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 21, 2021 10:35 PM


Now this is the kind of trolling a world-class blog like this deserves, but sadly seems to get so little of.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 21, 2021 10:44 PM (a3Q+t)

166
There for a time -- and that time now is pretty much passed -- whenever you encountered a home owned around here in northern Delaware by a former DuPont employee who was now retired, it was likely that you would find a large jar of powdered DDT somewhere in the garage or basement. One could not help but wonder whether such were handed out as some type of year-end bonus.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 21, 2021 10:44 PM (pNxlR)

167 Dear {{{Hrothgar}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at December 21, 2021 10:44 PM (TdMsT)

168 Know it happened when folks were freaking out about malathion.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:26 PM (r1z5A)


That sounds like what my dad, a former farmer, may have had. He kept something around that was no longer legal. Anyway, I got ants in my garage. He put the stuff around the garage and it killed those ants good. I do know he used malathion on the farm in the fifties, also ddt.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 10:45 PM (+lVUW)

169 Oh... not MH... CBD1 Exsqueeze me. My bad.

Posted by: mindful webworker - leap first, then look at December 21, 2021 10:45 PM (PukHz)

170 I once gifted someone bourbon. Then afterwards he told me he only liked scotch. What happened next will SHOCK you.
Posted by: ... at December 21, 2021 10:32 PM (ZpC60)


Hoping he tried the bourbon and realized Scotch is just average whiskey with dirt in it

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 10:46 PM (mZUr4)

171 It's been interesting here in my town.
I've started wishing everyone a Merry Christmas. I get a fair number of surprised looks, a few smiles and an occasional MC in response. The last two years have seemed to suck a lot of joy from people.
Be kind to everyone you meet. They may not welcome it or may not respond. What's important is that you did.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at December 21, 2021 10:46 PM (jAisO)

172 163 s/b "would each give to two of the caregivers"...

Posted by: EveR at December 21, 2021 10:46 PM (4dsGu)

173 154 Watching the construction of the Webb Telescope now. The total IQ in that room must be unbelievable.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 10:40 PM (H/pb5)
-----------------

Sure, they can make sky-looky-thingies, but that's not the question. Are they diverse and inclusive enough? Because that's how you can tell if it's REAL science or just racist claptrap.

Posted by: AOC, Ph.D, M.D, D.D.S., A at December 21, 2021 10:46 PM (lNHqD)

174 Wow... Biden's COVID19 plan is on the the same level as Eisenhower's Overlord Plan to free Europe from the Nazi's.... What a Liter...

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 21, 2021 10:46 PM (NM8ko)

175 Nice Caddy in that picture, the 50's were the height of GM's Harley Earl era

Ol' Harley loved boobs

Posted by: kbdabear at December 21, 2021 10:47 PM (qAR6u)

176 "This involvement starts from the basic premise that we as Maori will tell our own stories and control our own knowledge."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 21, 2021 10:21 PM (I2/tG)

I'd like to point out that the Haka is the stupidest, least intimidating pre game/conflict ritual I've ever seen. They look like a bunch of kindergartners trying to ruin the class picture by making faces. The only competitive advantage would come from my inability to stop laughing.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 21, 2021 10:47 PM (cupoy)

177 The top pic is so beautiful it makes me want to travel to the snow for a Christmas trip and sit in a warm cabin in front of a fireplace.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2021 10:47 PM (oeVy+)

178 Dear {{{Hrothgar}}}
Posted by: Ladyl at December 21, 2021 10:44 PM (TdMsT)


{{{Ladyl}}} I want to visit the town in that lead photo! I looks so peaceful and serene!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 10:48 PM (hOUT3)

179 I think they're gearing up for another big shutdown.

Because? well don't ask or bad things happen

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 21, 2021 10:49 PM (AuURx)

180 NASA rammed a orbiter into mars due to confusion between English and metric measurements in acceleration units.

Posted by: Javems at December 21, 2021 10:49 PM (AmoqO)

181 115 People take that board game Risk pretty seriously.
Posted by: nerdygirl

It's trying to defend the Ukraine that gets them every time.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:30 PM (mD/uy)


What really gets them is when you make a side deal to not attack them, then when they get complacent, stab them in the back.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 10:49 PM (+lVUW)

182 NASA rammed a orbiter into mars due to confusion between English and metric measurements in acceleration units.
Posted by: Javems at December 21, 2021 10:49 PM (AmoqO)


Yet we went to the moon and back with live people using Imperial units and slide-rules!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 10:51 PM (hOUT3)

183
My mother had dementia and my sis and I would each give two of the caregivers that were the most attentive. We just asked what their hubby or significant other's name was and said, "Here's a Christmas card for Joe." We'd then include a nice GC. When she died, we gave them thank-you cards w cash at her visitation. Those "rules" make no sense to me.
Posted by: EveR at December 21, 2021 10:44 PM (4dsGu)

I wonder if it has something to due with leaving a caregiver money in your estate? In California it is presumed the caregiver used undue influence or something like that. There is some certificate or something that has to be filled out. I do know caregivers are hesitant to accept gifts from their patients. Some can be fired.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2021 10:51 PM (oeVy+)

184 After a pint, does it really matter?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at

Wow. Don't think I'll down a pint of whiskey.

But. Don't underestimate me!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 21, 2021 10:51 PM (U2p+3)

185 The top photo is Whitefield, New Hampshire....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:51 PM (Q9lwr)

186
Watching the construction of the Webb Telescope now. The total IQ in that room must be unbelievable.
Posted by: Just a side note


Didn't that telescope turn out to be a piece of useless shit?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 10:51 PM (+OPjz)

187 Okay, this is your Official Description of what is a "Game Room" in and around the Houston, TX area. Other locales in Texas may vary.

They're a parlor for the electronic "Eight-Liner" machines, electronic Poker machines and other such pseudo slot machines as the owner may chose to employ. They do not pay out in cash, but in tickets (think, "carnival tickets", redeemable at the Cashier's Window for stuffed bunnies or.. wait for it, .. CASH!

TONS of cash in those wee parlors. Every one of them employs armed security, as they're favorite robbery targets. And, with the cash and booze flowing in those places, and the decidedly "scruffy" nature of their clientele, well.. shit does get out of hand, time to time.

They do (all of them) operate on the illegal side of the gambling laws, but there's LOTS of 'em, and not a lot of cops assigned to making cases against 'em and shutting them down.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 10:51 PM (QzJWU)

188 Watching the local news. What the hell is a "game room"? Because lots of people seem to get shot at them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 21, 2021 10:17 PM (/U27+)

Baltic Avenue is Crips territory!

Posted by: kbdabear at December 21, 2021 10:52 PM (qAR6u)

189 Sure, they can make sky-looky-thingies, but that's not the question. Are they diverse and inclusive enough? Because that's how you can tell if it's REAL science or just racist claptrap.
Posted by: AOC, Ph.D, M.D, D.D.S., A at December 21, 2021 10:46 PM (lNHqD)

NASA was lucky. The director of the project was a very very smart black guy.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 10:52 PM (H/pb5)

190
Wait, am I thinking of the Hubbell Telescope?

You telling me there's a Webb telescope??

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 10:52 PM (+OPjz)

191 What really gets them is when you make a side deal to not attack them, then when they get complacent, stab them in the back.
Posted by: nerdygirl


Had a lot of non-aggression pacts in that game, which I would break....and get stabbed in the back by the damn dice. commie bastards.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:52 PM (r1z5A)

192 So thank you all ... And thank you for your thoughtfulness, patience, and hard work providing wonderful content guiding us on our way through ONT.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2021 10:53 PM (HCRRg)

193 What do NY, LA, Boston and Chicago have in common ?

Posted by: runner at December 21, 2021 10:53 PM (V13WU)

194 Come on NASA. Measure Twice, Cut Once !
Posted by: Just a side note

Yep. First in metric, then in imperial.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 21, 2021 10:54 PM (OssQ4)

195 Wait, am I thinking of the Hubbell Telescope?

You telling me there's a Webb telescope??

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 10:52 PM (+OPjz)

The new Webb-Hubbell telescope is designed to focused on legal American citizens!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 10:54 PM (hOUT3)

196 Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 10:51 PM (+OPjz)

Well we'll know after it's launched tomorrow.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 10:54 PM (H/pb5)

197 Wait, am I thinking of the Hubbell Telescope?

You telling me there's a Webb telescope??
Posted by: Soothsayer

Web Hubbell - he fucked that up too.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:55 PM (mD/uy)

198

The new Webb-Hubbell telescope is designed to focused on legal American citizens!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar


Didn't the clinton crime family kill that guy?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 10:55 PM (+OPjz)

199 Father Christmas...I think we should go back to that. St. Nick, that's on the 5/6.

Posted by: runner at December 21, 2021 10:55 PM (V13WU)

200 NASA rammed a orbiter into mars due to confusion between English and metric measurements in acceleration units.
Posted by: Javems at December 21, 2021 10:49 PM (AmoqO)

Yet we went to the moon and back with live people using Imperial units and slide-rules!


So obviously the problem is the metric system.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 21, 2021 10:56 PM (SchxB)

201 Wow. Don't think I'll down a pint of whiskey.

But. Don't underestimate me!
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 21, 2021 10:51 PM (U2p+3)


Do it. Just remember to alternate with water. Wait, you're a nurse - you already know this.

I'll stick to music recommendations next time!

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 10:56 PM (mZUr4)

202 Didn't that telescope turn out to be a piece of useless shit?
Posted by: Soothsayer

It hasn't been launched yet, and no. 1000x more powerful than the Hubble. Incredible piece of technology. Launching very soon, from Guyana. Like within weeks.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 21, 2021 10:56 PM (OssQ4)

203 Didn't the clinton crime family kill that guy?
Posted by: Soothsayer

He was punished in the worst possible way - he had have sex with the hildabeast.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:56 PM (mD/uy)

204 Bostonians are equal opportunity hecklers, which is nice to see.
Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 21, 2021 10:4

They were absolutely brutal to Jose Canseco one afternoon at Fenway. This was just after Canseco got caught beating his wife.

Posted by: Beartooth at December 21, 2021 10:56 PM (J0Lsu)

205 Web Hubbell - he fucked that up too.
Posted by: Tonypete

After hillary, machinery probably looked good.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:56 PM (r1z5A)

206 I suppose if someone were to alter the "Families of Color" school sign to say "Colored Families" it would be a horrible hate crime.

Posted by: Roy Epps, not a fed at December 21, 2021 10:56 PM (F6Xpw)

207 @180


>>NASA rammed a orbiter into mars due to confusion between English and metric measurements in acceleration units.

Well sort of, NASA contracted out some modules for the lander, the contractor delivered modules that spit out standard measurements, while the computers were expecting metric measurements, hilarity ensued.

Clearly whoever wrote the RFP/Spec for the contractor and whoever qualified the contractors work failed spectacularly at their job.

Probably got a promotion.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2021 10:58 PM (Pxkfv)

208 www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/webb/
main/index.html

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 21, 2021 10:58 PM (OssQ4)

209 But. Don't underestimate me!
Posted by: nurse ratched


Only those who haven't met you would make that mistake.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 21, 2021 10:58 PM (r1z5A)

210 Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 10:31 PM (H/pb5), sounds like typical government rules that make no sense. After my dad died, I had cartons of adult diapers. They're very expensive. I spent an afternoon driving from one place to another trying to donate them and was told over and over again, that they couldn't take them because they are viewed by government regulations as "medical supplies". I was told the exact same thing by about five different places,

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 10:58 PM (+lVUW)

211
{{{Ladyl}}} I want to visit the town in that lead photo! I looks so peaceful and serene!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 10:48 PM (hOUT3)


It looks like Vermont! Let's go!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 21, 2021 10:58 PM (TdMsT)

212 Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 21, 2021 10:56 PM (OssQ4)

Freaking Soothsayer just jinxed a 10 billion dollar operation.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 10:59 PM (H/pb5)

213 Launching on Christmas day? Looks like it.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 21, 2021 10:59 PM (OssQ4)

214 Yet we went to the moon and back with live people using Imperial units and slide-rules!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar

And pen pocket protectors made in USA!

Posted by: Nerdy if capable Miklos at December 21, 2021 11:00 PM (QzkSJ)

215 Hey Jim SND,

I picked up a bottle of that Tom Sims from my local Spec's. Best $9.99 I've spent on bourbon. Thanks.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:00 PM (4I/2K)

216 Mark Twain also famously invested in an early proto-typewriter. It was the version that didn't make it.

Posted by: troyriser at December 21, 2021 11:00 PM (pYLCQ)

217 Do it. Just remember to alternate with water. Wait, you're a nurse - you already know this.

I'll stick to music recommendations next time!
Posted by: Doof

Nah. I can be pretty dumb.
Perhaps I should retire for the night. Gotta herd cats tomorrow morning.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 21, 2021 11:00 PM (U2p+3)

218 RIP Tami.

May eternal light shine upon you.

Posted by: Gran at December 21, 2021 11:00 PM (GM3/s)

219 206 I suppose if someone were to alter the "Families of Color" school sign to say "Colored Families" it would be a horrible hate crime.
Posted by: Roy Epps, not a fed at December 21, 2021 10:56 PM (F6Xpw)

Yes. Democrats rearranged the words and went back to doing the same crap they did 60 years ago. It's called progress.

Posted by: 29Victor at December 21, 2021 11:01 PM (BJKQV)

220
Don't blame me for NASA's inevitable fuckups!

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 11:01 PM (+OPjz)

221 You telling me there's a Webb telescope??

Posted by: Soothsayer

That's correct, Ma'am.

Posted by: Jack Webb at December 21, 2021 11:01 PM (QzkSJ)

222 https://youtu.be/x9A7WwbDgqk

This is my prayer.

Posted by: Heidi at December 21, 2021 11:01 PM (5aWFq)

223 Launching on Christmas day? Looks like it.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 21, 2021 10:59 PM (OssQ4)

Did they delay tomorrow's launch ?

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 11:02 PM (H/pb5)

224 183 CaliGirl, that makes sense, except my sis and I were providing the gift in this case. No one ever cited a "why" to us, but Just a Side Note mentioned Medicare rules. These are the ladies that make the fewest dollars and work the crappiest hours; they deserve some gratitude, IMO. There were some slimy Administrators there (at the care center my Mom lived) I could see doing what you referenced, w the widowers who loved the attention from younger women, and being preyed upon.

Posted by: EveR at December 21, 2021 11:03 PM (4dsGu)

225 *watches epoxy table build*

Crap, now I have ideas on what to do with the black walnut logs drying in the garage...

Posted by: pookysgirl, carpenter's daughter at December 21, 2021 11:05 PM (XKZwp)

226 It looks like Vermont! Let's go!
Posted by: Ladyl at December 21, 2021 10:58 PM (TdMsT)

The top photo is Whitefield, New Hampshire....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 10:51 PM (Q9lwr)



Seems close enough, it works for me!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 11:06 PM (hOUT3)

227 Don't blame me for NASA's inevitable fuckups!

I'm not taking the hit. I haven't worked there for over 20 years.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 21, 2021 11:06 PM (SchxB)

228 i was offered stock in tech companies in the mid-80s. Some I bought. One I didn't: Microsoft.

Posted by: JM in Florida at December 21, 2021 11:06 PM (L7jyl)

229
Incidentally, I just put up some Christmas lights. I picked a single bush and wrapped it with lights. It looks like, well, pathetic and sad. Charlie Brown Christmas Tree level sad.

The lights are up and that will make Baby Jesus smile -- and that's all that matters.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 11:06 PM (+OPjz)

230
It looks like Vermont! Let's go!
Posted by: Ladyl at December 21, 2021 10:58 PM (TdMsT)

It doesn't even look real it's so pretty.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2021 11:06 PM (oeVy+)

231 Santa has been reading your posts all year ...

Most of you are getting dictionaries.

(just saw that on Facebook)

Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2021 11:07 PM (Cus5s)

232 ..Hey Jim SND, I picked up a bottle of that Tom Sims from my local Spec's. Best $9.99 I've spent on bourbon. Thanks. Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:00 PM (4I/2K)

Happy to help, Count! Now, a favor, if you please? Do kindly drop me a note with the Spec's location you frequent. I need to have my Galveston Spec's get on the computer and work towards re-stocking the label. It's been missing from the shelves for too long, now!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 11:07 PM (QzJWU)

233 What a f***ing disaster this is going to be. And people actually vote for this shit and will continue to do so.
Posted by: Ripley at December 21, 2021 10:39 PM (PTDkx)


Most of the people aren't small business owners and don't give a crap what this does to businesses. A good share of the dem base think that the local couple who own a fast food franchise are rich people who deserve to be screwed over. A good share of those people lined up to get a hamburger, are going to get fed up and go eat at home.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 11:07 PM (+lVUW)

234 Hoping he tried the bourbon and realized Scotch is just average whiskey with dirt in it

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 10:46 PM (mZUr4)

I don't think he ever even drank it. Pissed me off.

Posted by: ... at December 21, 2021 11:08 PM (ZpC60)

235 Administrators there (at the care center my Mom lived) I could see doing what you referenced, w the widowers who loved the attention from younger women, and being preyed upon.
Posted by: EveR at December

I'm sure it's some stupid government rule that makes no sense.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2021 11:08 PM (oeVy+)

236 I have to lead the Sunday School study this week in the Pastors absence.

I'm considering translating the portion of Scripture into the New Southern Translation and recording it for a little levity for the group.

Is this blasphemous?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 21, 2021 11:08 PM (5We2S)

237 Santa has been reading your posts all year ...
Most of you are getting dictionaries.
(just saw that on Facebook)
Posted by: illiniwek

And copies of Strunk and White's 'The Elements of Style'.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 11:09 PM (mD/uy)

238 So now all these small ll businesses in Chicago and elsewhere, many struggling even in good times, will now have the added burden of checking everybody's ID and vax papers. Places that had no lines to get in will now have them and those that had them will now be even longer. Do places like McDonalds check at the door or the counter?

I'm doing what I can to organize a boycott. It's not that hard to shop in Dupage county rather than Cook.

Fuck anyone who collaborates with the mandates.

Posted by: Methos at December 21, 2021 11:10 PM (kOpft)

239 I'm sure it's some stupid government rule that makes no sense.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2021 11:08 PM (oeVy+)


Funny how "stupid" and "Government rule" seem to just flow together under any conceivable (and most inconceivable) circumstances!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 11:10 PM (hOUT3)

240 @228

>>i was offered stock in tech companies in the mid-80s. Some I bought. One I didn't: Microsoft.

You could have bought Microsoft stock at several times.

It's stock was around 35 dollars in 2015.

It's now over 300 dollars.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2021 11:11 PM (iKhtQ)

241
Rant #4,467, 321 about why Spectrum sucks. Of the past couple days, we can't maintain an acceptable conversation with my mother. I got to looking at found the trouble. The upstream speed on the internet has dropped down to well below 1Mbps, hitting 100kps.

Charter's voice(phone) system uses different channels, but the upstream channels are grouped together in the same freq. range (lower end), so it's almost certain it's some noise problem on the low end.

A call to someone outside the local area works fine, but a call to my mother, on the same local loop gets messed up by the slow speed/noise both ways and packets get dropped.

I'm debating whether or not I want to even bother trying to get Charter support and try to explain the problem. I'm hoping there will be enough trouble soon that it will alert them.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 21, 2021 11:11 PM (Mzdiz)

242
Most of the people aren't small business owners and don't give a crap what this does to businesses. A good share of the dem base think that the local couple who own a fast food franchise are rich people who deserve to be screwed over. A good share of those people lined up to get a hamburger, are going to get fed up and go eat at home.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 11:07 PM (+lVUW)

it's always the big boys that are all on board for new regulations. It puts their competition out of business and is a huge barrier to entry for any new businesses.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2021 11:11 PM (oeVy+)

243 Do places like McDonalds check at the door or the counter?



===


after a few people get shot by wanna be patrons for not being let in...who knows

Posted by: runner at December 21, 2021 11:12 PM (V13WU)

244 Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 11:07 PM (QzJWU)

It was at Spec's Willowbrook. They had three 750ml bottles left after the one I bought. Spec's at Spring Cypress didn't carry it. 77070 zip code.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:13 PM (4I/2K)

245 Did they delay tomorrow's launch ?
Posted by: Just a side note

Yes, tweet's up on that NASA page I linked above.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 21, 2021 11:13 PM (OssQ4)

246
I could kick myself for not saving a few of the old Christmas decorations. We threw it all out. All of it. Including the Firestone Christmas records.

We had the big lights, the silver and gold garland, the ugly ornaments, all the glorious crap that made Christmas wonderful.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 11:13 PM (+OPjz)

247 197 Wait, am I thinking of the Hubbell Telescope?

You telling me there's a Webb telescope??
Posted by: Soothsayer

Web Hubbell - he fucked that up too.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:55 PM (mD/uy)

Posted by: penn at December 21, 2021 11:13 PM (lNHqD)

248 Count de Monet and Jim SND --

Very curious about Tom Sims bourbon. Web search yields little info. It appears to be a product of Heaven Hill distillery (same folks who make Evan Williams bourbon and Rittenhouse Rye) in Bardstown, Kentucky. But it is not featured on their website. Also, I have pursued the shelves of MANY liquor stores in various parts of Kentucky and I have NEVER seen Tom Sims.

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:14 PM (mZUr4)

249 Yes, tweet's up on that NASA page I linked above.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 21, 2021 11:13 PM (OssQ4)

Thanks.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 11:14 PM (H/pb5)

250 197 Wait, am I thinking of the Hubbell Telescope?

You telling me there's a Webb telescope??
Posted by: Soothsayer

Web Hubbell - he fucked that up too.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 10:55 PM (mD/uy)
-----------------

Damn, hit the Post button by accident.

Anyway, the Web Hubbell telescope is dedicated purely to looking beyond the event horizon of Hillary's pantsuit. Here's hoping it fails. I don't want to see any of that in National Geographic.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 21, 2021 11:14 PM (lNHqD)

251
Yet we went to the moon and back with live people using Imperial units and slide-rules!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar


Thanks to the hidden figurers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2021 11:15 PM (63Dwl)

252 most junk food places I've been to are drive thru only anyway.... what, are they gonna check meine Papieren through the little window? Really?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 21, 2021 11:15 PM (6FeV1)

253 We had the big lights, the silver and gold garland, the ugly ornaments, all the glorious crap that made Christmas wonderful.
Posted by: Soothsayer

I found one string of the old, monster lights hidden away. This year I draped them on the bench outside - I think they are beautiful - warm colors. Much better than the sterile white lights we all use now.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 11:16 PM (mD/uy)

254 It puts their competition out of business and is a huge barrier to entry for any new businesses.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2021 11:11 PM (oeVy+)


Isn't that the very definition of Corporate Capitalism (Corporatism)?

I find it interesting that so many small businesses are being absorbed into huge conglomerates with the end result of less accountability to the customers, inferior service at every level, increased salaries for the front office wankers, and increased efficiency in the transfer of graft to the politicians.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 2021 11:16 PM (hOUT3)

255 Hoping he tried the bourbon and realized Scotch is just average whiskey with dirt in it

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 10:46 PM (mZUr4)

I don't think he ever even drank it. Pissed me off.
Posted by: ... at December 21, 2021 11:08 PM (ZpC60)


That sucks. Lesson learned the hard way

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:17 PM (mZUr4)

256 So car colors...

The options for the 2022 Camaro include two premium color options. Burnt orange and powder blue.

I haven't seen those colors since the 70s.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 21, 2021 11:17 PM (5p7BC)

257 Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:14 PM (mZUr4)

Yes, its provenance is a mystery. I also tried looking up its background. Dead ends.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:17 PM (4I/2K)

258 253
I found one string of the old, monster lights hidden away. This year I draped them on the bench outside - I think they are beautiful - warm colors. Much better than the sterile white lights we all use now.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 11:16 PM (mD/uy)

-------------------

Check out the Technology Connections channel on YT. He does a few videos about trying to make modern Christmas lights look as good as the old ones did.

Kid is a total nerd and does some really amazing stuff on that channel, especially if you are a fan of old tech like I am.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 21, 2021 11:18 PM (lNHqD)

259 I wonder if it has something to due with leaving a caregiver money in your estate? In California it is presumed the caregiver used undue influence or something like that. There is some certificate or something that has to be filled out. I do know caregivers are hesitant to accept gifts from their patients. Some can be fired.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2021 10:51 PM (oeVy+)


For the caregiver that helped with my dad I had to give a bonus through the agency, and sign some paper. They also had some rule about giving the caregivers items from the house, because they didn't want the caregivers being accused of stealing.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 11:19 PM (+lVUW)

260 Count.. thanks, I've printed that out, and shall visit my local, in the morning.

Doof, I'm probably going to have to go on a telephone mission and get Heaven's Hill Distillery on the line. Gotta chase down the story on what's happened to the brand. A decade of smooth sippin' shouldn't just disappear like that!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 11:19 PM (QzJWU)

261 Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2021 10:53 PM (HCRRg)

Happy to do it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 11:20 PM (Q9lwr)

262 Thanks Pennsyltucky - I will!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 11:21 PM (mD/uy)

263
Isn't that the very definition of Corporate Capitalism (Corporatism)?

I find it interesting that so many small businesses are being absorbed into huge conglomerates with the end result of less accountability to the customers, inferior service at every level, increased salaries for the front office wankers, and increased efficiency in the transfer of graft to the politicians.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) - Lie back and think of that sweet graft! ~ at December 21, 20

Pretty much. It seems to me to be the plan is working swimmingly.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2021 11:21 PM (oeVy+)

264 I just finished watching the entire Babylon Bee interview with Elon Musk. It is well worth watching.

Posted by: Theodore at December 21, 2021 11:21 PM (GJnvT)

265
I'm debating whether or not I want to even bother trying to get Charter support and try to explain the problem. I'm hoping there will be enough trouble soon that it will alert them.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion


Every once in a while (thankfully not often) I have to power down my Spectrum modem/router (and disconnect the battery) because my up and down speeds get reallllly slow. Luckily the power reset has always set speeds back to normal.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2021 11:21 PM (63Dwl)

266 I had to adjust a significant house fire shortly after Christmas when the grandkid decided to plug in a string of those big old school bulbs that had just been taken down and stored in a cardboard box with newspapers as cushion.

The Grandmother was livid and indicated that she had disowned the the poor kid.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 11:21 PM (H/pb5)

267
Check out the Technology Connections channel on YT. He does a few videos about trying to make modern Christmas lights look as good as the old ones did.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky


That's a good channel. He did a video on an older microwave that was surprisingly interesting.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 11:21 PM (+OPjz)

268 There is 2.11 pints in a liter. So I'm good.

Posted by: Javems at December 21, 2021 11:22 PM (AmoqO)

269 Yes, its provenance is a mystery. I also tried looking up its background. Dead ends.
Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:17 PM (4I/2K)


I have some good old boy buddies who have lived in Kentucky for many moons. I'll ask them about it. Also, our fellow moron Martini Farmer lives near Bardstown. Perhaps he can investigate. I'll mention it to him next time I see him around here

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:23 PM (mZUr4)

270
I found one string of the old, monster lights hidden away. This year I draped them on the bench outside - I think they are beautiful - warm colors. Much better than the sterile white lights we all use now.
Posted by: Tonypete


Nice.

500 watts of beautiful fire-hazard nostalgia!

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 11:23 PM (+OPjz)

271 Black Flag, Flit, Gulf Spray; we had spay cans that would hold pressure. You could pump them up and they would spray and spray and spray.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2021 11:24 PM (HCRRg)

272 is/are. I type one word at a time.

Posted by: Javems at December 21, 2021 11:24 PM (AmoqO)

273 less accountability to the customers, inferior service at every level, increased salaries for the front office wankers, and increased efficiency in the transfer of graft to the politicians.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar

Your point being?

Posted by: Miklosov Miklosevich from Slav Customer service Minsk Call Centre of Most Excellence at December 21, 2021 11:24 PM (QzkSJ)

274 I have 3 packages of the old old old C9 light strings. I won't dare plug them in, even though they're probably just fine. They sure use up the 'lectricity! 5w per bulb, 25 bulbs per string. Ouch.

On the other hand, LED lights use around 2.5w per string

Posted by: JQ at December 21, 2021 11:24 PM (dB4Iz)

275 >> Luckily the power reset has always set speeds back to normal.

I've already tried that, on both modems. It's some local problem on the system around here. One time it was a bad repeater/amplifier somewhere in the chain, I remember. Been some nasty weather, and maybe a seal on of them has failed and let water in, which I remember one of the linemen telling me can be a problem.

It's just the upstream channels, the downstream is fine.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 21, 2021 11:24 PM (Mzdiz)

276 Ryan George (The Pitch Meeting Guy) on Boston Dynamics:
https://youtu.be/Lb16CEhqDnw

Posted by: Chuck C at December 21, 2021 11:25 PM (EughT)

277 Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 11:19 PM (+lVUW

Yes I gave away a lot of clothes and furniture/ decor items to some of the workers and I signed a paper to confirm I had given them the items.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 21, 2021 11:25 PM (H/pb5)

278
For the caregiver that helped with my dad I had to give a bonus through the agency, and sign some paper. They also had some rule about giving the caregivers items from the house, because they didn't want the caregivers being accused of stealing.
Posted by: nerdygirl at Decemb

I think the returning of the gift certificates is stupid but I can also see the other side. Elderly people with dementia giving away things or cash to a caregiver or a housekeeper when they aren't competent to make those decisions.
When it's the children of the patient giving the gift that makes zero sense.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2021 11:26 PM (oeVy+)

279 The bottle says "especially selected and bottled by Thomas W. Sims Distillery, Bardstown, Kentucky"

Some incognito outfit in Bardstown distilled the juice. No one is claiming credit for the brand. Someone else owns the brand name and licenses it out I think.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:26 PM (4I/2K)

280 Black Flag kills the punk bugs.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2021 11:27 PM (63Dwl)

281
Speaking of 70's cars...

this tv commercial for the Pontiac GTO with the short-lived option for the "exhaust diverter" is fantastic:

https://youtu.be/7JNj9sEdPF0

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 11:28 PM (+OPjz)

282 Doof, I'm probably going to have to go on a telephone mission and get Heaven's Hill Distillery on the line. Gotta chase down the story on what's happened to the brand. A decade of smooth sippin' shouldn't just disappear like that!

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 11:19 PM (QzJWU)


Heaven Hill does some weird stuff with their products. Some good, some not. They have a pretty good bottom shelf product that they only sell in Kentucky. Green label Heaven Hill bourbon. 90 proof and right around $10. Pretty good stuff. Until 2 years ago, they had a Bottled in Bond version. 6 years aged, 100 proof for $12. Best value I ever found in a bourbon. Only sold in Kentucky. I used to bring 6-10 bottles home every time I drove to/from. Then they decided to rebrand it as a 7 year old product, sell it only OUTSIDE of Kentucky, and charge $45. Nope - not for me.

Anyway -- good luck in your quest to find out more info!!

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:29 PM (mZUr4)

283 Some incognito outfit in Bardstown distilled the juice. No one is claiming credit for the brand. Someone else owns the brand name and licenses it out I think.
Posted by: Count de Monet

Don't know if this would help but - The company has 5 principals on record; The principals are Ed Shapira, Gary Shapira, George Shapira, Marion Rebecca Steinbock, and Marvin L Smith.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 11:30 PM (mD/uy)

284 Doof, I'm probably going to have to go on a telephone mission and get Heaven's Hill Distillery on the line. Gotta chase down the story on what's happened to the brand. A decade of smooth sippin' shouldn't just disappear like that!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 11:19 PM


Jim, I'll ask around as well. I know some people (local bourbon club) that have a good relationship with Heaven Hill, so they might be able to find out.

Posted by: Bert G at December 21, 2021 11:31 PM (AvN9S)

285 What happened to Heaven Hill, bought some two weeks ago?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2021 11:32 PM (HCRRg)

286 We had the big lights, the silver and gold garland, the ugly ornaments, all the glorious crap that made Christmas wonderful.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 11:13 PM (+OPjz)


I miss my mom and dad's cheap plastic elf ornaments.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 11:32 PM (+lVUW)

287 The bottle says "especially selected and bottled by Thomas W. Sims Distillery, Bardstown, Kentucky"

Some incognito outfit in Bardstown distilled the juice. No one is claiming credit for the brand. Someone else owns the brand name and licenses it out I think.
Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:26 PM (4I/2K)


That's common for a label to reference a distillery that doesn't actually exist - or is defunct. Several products made by Buffalo Trace actually say something else. For all of the strict rules about what can be called "bourbon" or "straight bourbon", there appears to be a lot of leeway in branding and manufacturer naming

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:33 PM (mZUr4)

288 The options for the 2022 Camaro include two premium color options. Burnt orange and powder blue.

I haven't seen those colors since the 70s.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 21, 2021 11:17 PM (5p7BC)


What? No avocado green?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 11:34 PM (+lVUW)

289 What happened to Heaven Hill, bought some two weeks ago?
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2021 11:32 PM (HCRRg)


Nothing specific happened. Just talking about their various products and some that they seem to make but don't claim outright.

What product did you buy?

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:35 PM (mZUr4)

290 Count / Doof / Tonypete.. thanks! But given the apparant complexity of tracing Principals as listed, I think someone far more knowledgeable as regards "The Bourbon Trail" is going to have to run lead as Detective, here.

I'm OK on normal Corporate stuff, 10k filings and the like. But the distilling world is a world of secrets, alliances, enemies and machinations. Happy to team up and help whoever takes lead, 'cause I don't mind putting in the work. But I'll be lacking that savvy that comes with knowing Bourbon Country.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 11:35 PM (QzJWU)

291 Spec's shelf price for Tom Sims was $10.52, per the website. But it rang up lower at the Willowbrook store's register, before they took out another 5% for paying by debit card. When sales tax got added on, drive out price was $10.81.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:36 PM (4I/2K)

292 What? No avocado green?
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 11:34 PM (+lVUW)

If memory serves, that was one of the color choices for the Ford Gremlin. There's a memory.

Posted by: troyriser at December 21, 2021 11:39 PM (pYLCQ)

293 Also, one sure way to tell a Heaven Hill product: The DSP number. They're very proud of the fact that they're DSP-KY-1. They also have DSP-KY-31, so if you see either (or both) of those numbers on the label, you know it's them.

Posted by: Bert G at December 21, 2021 11:40 PM (AvN9S)

294 272 is/are. I type one word at a time.
Posted by: Javems

You and me both.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 21, 2021 11:40 PM (U2p+3)

295 Synaptic misfire, it's Evan Williams.
There's no other branding on the label.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2021 11:42 PM (HCRRg)

296 Gotta go watch a Columbo rerun. Anyway, Mis Hum and CBD, if you're still here, thanks for all the effort you put into these ONTs, and Merry Christmas.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 11:42 PM (+lVUW)

297 Jim SND -- I'm happy to run point on this bourbon detective stuff. It's actually very interesting to me, and I've traversed many miles of the Bourbon Trail. Some beautiful landscapes in that area. Of particular note is the roads one must take to get to the Woodford Reserve distillery. Lovely rolling hills through horse country just west of Lexington in Versailles (pronounced ver-SAILS). I highly recommend it!

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:42 PM (mZUr4)

298 Maybe it's best to not ask too many questions in Bardstown. Millions of barrels sitting in dozens of warehouses, a guy could easily get disappeared forever. Like the Nevada desert IYKWIM.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:42 PM (4I/2K)

299 Synaptic misfire, it's Evan Williams.
There's no other branding on the label.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2021 11:42 PM (HCRRg)


Sorry to hear that. Just kidding. I know a lot of folks enjoy EW. That's actually one of the 2 varieties I have almost poured down a drain. The other being Very Old Barton.

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:46 PM (mZUr4)

300 Also, one sure way to tell a Heaven Hill product: The DSP number. They're very proud of the fact that they're DSP-KY-1. They also have DSP-KY-31, so if you see either (or both) of those numbers on the label, you know it's them.
Posted by: Bert G at December 21, 2021 11:40 PM (AvN9S)

The only number on the Tom Sims label (other than the barcode) is 240-4447 and 240-4449.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:46 PM (4I/2K)

301
Versailles (pronounced ver-SAILS)
Posted by: Doof


Heh. It's true.

Frankfurt, KY cracks me up, for some reason.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 11:46 PM (+OPjz)

302 Thanks so much for ROMEO'S TUNE, CDB! I consider '76-'86 Peak America and that certainly would be on the soundtrack. We will never see anything similar again, but by God, we did get to see it. Merry Christmas. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2021 10:22 PM (nMx8

Back in the cassette recording days when we made "make out tapes," Romeo's Tune was believed to have magical powers on babes.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 21, 2021 11:46 PM (BMmaB)

303 Doof, I envy you knowing Bourbon Country. I've motorcycled Kentucky a few times, but never on The Trail. Mostly, getting *through* the State to elsewhere.

But have stopped in and visited with friends in both Paducha and Harlan. Side point: Backwoods Kentucky is NOT a place to ride 'cycle at night. Period.

Anyway, drop me a line at the mail in my nic, and I'll send you photos of the Tom Sims labels, front and back. With as much detail as I can get to render of the text, of course. Nothing helps quite so much for a starting point as a legible UPC code, I'd think?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 11:47 PM (QzJWU)

304 I wonder how much a Gremlin or a Vega would cost on the market today?

Or maybe an AMC Pacer.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 21, 2021 11:47 PM (5p7BC)

305 Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 11:42 PM (+lVUW)

And a very Merry Christmas to you!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2021 11:48 PM (Q9lwr)

306 Maybe it's best to not ask too many questions in Bardstown. Millions of barrels sitting in dozens of warehouses, a guy could easily get disappeared forever. Like the Nevada desert IYKWIM.
Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:42 PM (4I/2K)


There's a really cool shop in Bardstown where you can find some unique stuff - if you're willing to pay a bit more for it. They are VERY knowledgeable. They're gonna be my first call tomorrow

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:49 PM (mZUr4)

307 30 I bought an old school health book that advises that you use DDT dust preventatively just in case of lice. It also talks about how you shouldn't shower too much, such as DAILY.
Posted by: Coquettish Haberdasher at December 21, 2021 10:02 PM (buTO7)


What is the name of this book?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - AoS Ladies' Brigade Plucky Comic Relief at December 21, 2021 11:49 PM (HV27O)

308
I think they were about $4K new in 1975.
So that would be around $20K today.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 11:50 PM (+OPjz)

309 Car colors and booze connoisseurs - surely these themes can be crossed, but I'm not sure how.

One color I seem to have seen much more of lately is a brilliant ultramarine blue. The blue equivalent to firetruck red. It just strike me as strange somehow. Bright school-bus yellow doesn't seem as strange, but I have to wonder why anyone would have that color vehicle on purpose (vs, say, having bought it from some utility company).

Lots of other cars, I find myself often saying that color was only on Matchbox™ cars... some of them not only don't exist in Nature, I don't think they actually exist in this dimension.

"You can have it any color as long as it's black." -H Ford

Posted by: mindful webworker - red truck, white van, green junker up on blocks in the yard at December 21, 2021 11:50 PM (PukHz)

310 One of my better life experiences was sampling bourbon at the Maker's distillary while waiting to run leg 7 of the Bourbon Chase relay.

There were exchanges at Jim Beam, Maker's, Woodford, and Four Roses.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 21, 2021 11:51 PM (5p7BC)

311 The only number on the Tom Sims label (other than the barcode) is 240-4447 and 240-4449.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:46 PM


I'm guessing they're not proud of that product, lol. It appears here as being a HH label: https://tinyurl.com/2zf83wpj

Posted by: Bert G at December 21, 2021 11:52 PM (AvN9S)

312 For the last several days, my phone has been going off daily with Amber Alerts. Just got a third one today. It must be parental abductions time for the holidays.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:53 PM (4I/2K)

313 Versailles (pronounced ver-SAILS)
Posted by: Doof

Heh. It's true.

Frankfurt, KY cracks me up, for some reason.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 21, 2021 11:46 PM (+OPjz)


Frankfurt is the home of Buffalo Trace -- a distillery I have toured 3 times. Awesome place. Nearby is a very nive Vietnam War memorial for Kentucky folks who died in the war. It's a large sundial - with a nice view of the state Capitol across the river

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:53 PM (mZUr4)

314 Karol Markowicz
at_karol

Insane email from Horace Mann school in NYC. HM already has a vaccine mandate for 5+ and booster mandate for 16+. Now your kid can be kicked out if they don't wear their mask correctly.

11:58 AM - Dec 21, 2021 - https://bit.ly/33QJJrV

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 21, 2021 11:53 PM (Do5/p)

315 Speaking of Black Flag, "Damaged" is a great album.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 21, 2021 11:54 PM (KAi1n)

316 Just looked one up. 1972 Gremlin for $13,000.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 21, 2021 11:54 PM (5p7BC)

317 One of my better life experiences was sampling bourbon at the Maker's distillary while waiting to run leg 7 of the Bourbon Chase relay.

There were exchanges at Jim Beam, Maker's, Woodford, and Four Roses.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at December 21, 2021 11:51 PM (5p7BC)


That sounds awesome, Dave!

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:55 PM (mZUr4)

318 Anyway, drop me a line at the mail in my nic, and I'll send you photos of the Tom Sims labels, front and back. With as much detail as I can get to render of the text, of course. Nothing helps quite so much for a starting point as a legible UPC code, I'd think?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 21, 2021 11:47 PM (QzJWU)


Will drop you a line in the morning, Jim

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:56 PM (mZUr4)

319 I'm guessing they're not proud of that product, lol. It appears here as being a HH label: https://tinyurl.com/2zf83wpj
Posted by: Bert G at December 21, 2021 11:52 PM (AvN9S)

Thanks Bert. Good detective work.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 21, 2021 11:58 PM (4I/2K)

320 *fixes a glencairn of Early Times*

Look what you miscreants made me do!

Posted by: Bert G at December 21, 2021 11:58 PM (AvN9S)

321 I'm guessing they're not proud of that product, lol. It appears here as being a HH label: https://tinyurl.com/2zf83wpj
Posted by: Bert G at December 21, 2021 11:52 PM (AvN9S)


Great link, Bert! That one is getting bookmarked!

Posted by: Doof at December 21, 2021 11:59 PM (mZUr4)

322
I don't know why but now I need to know if you can buy the tool to make your own "Spiral Cut" Ham.

brb...

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:00 AM (+OPjz)

323 Found Tom Sims 28 miles from the house, going to try that.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2021 12:00 AM (HCRRg)

324 I remember a sundial at the capitol in Frankfort when I was a kid. It had flowers on it I think. That was in the early 1960s.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2021 12:01 AM (63Dwl)

325 I don't know why but now I need to know if you can buy the tool to make your own "Spiral Cut" Ham.

brb...
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:00 AM (+OPjz)

Sure you can. Sawzall. Corded or battery.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 22, 2021 12:01 AM (4I/2K)

326 Roadside America page for the sundial in Frankfort, Kentucky...
https://tinyurl.com/2p8za3vf

Posted by: Doof at December 22, 2021 12:03 AM (mZUr4)

327 Aha, I was thinking of the floral clock!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2021 12:05 AM (63Dwl)

328 Christmas will soon be upon us!

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 22, 2021 12:05 AM (II3Gr)

329
Sure you can. Sawzall. Corded or battery.
Posted by: Count de Monet


Yeahhh, I guess you could...

if you're Red Green.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:06 AM (+OPjz)

330 Here's the thing about the Tom Sims Bourbon. I'll never claim that it's a "great" BOURBON. I will claim though, that it's a great BARGAIN.

Flavor rather close to the Jim Beam profile, but decidedly smoother. Price runs close to $10 per 750ml, and I'm out the door at Spec's, after tax, at about $21 for a 1.75 ml. bottle.

It's good enough, it's smooth enough, it pairs with cigars enough, to be one's default Front Porch Bourbon, for when just watching the sun go down or sippin' with a neighbor. As such, it'll help hold your Good Stuff for when the Good Friends come by, and etc.

In the price/performance matrix, it's a win in my book.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 12:06 AM (QzJWU)

331 *fixes a glencairn of Early Times*

Look what you miscreants made me do!
Posted by: Bert G at December 21, 2021 11:58 PM (AvN9S)


A glencairn -- nice! A man who knows how to truly enjoy a dram of whiskey.

Posted by: Doof at December 22, 2021 12:06 AM (mZUr4)

332 322
I don't know why but now I need to know if you can buy the tool to make your own "Spiral Cut" Ham.

brb...
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:00 AM (+OPjz)

The Ronco ham spiralizer!

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 22, 2021 12:06 AM (II3Gr)

333 I don't know why but now I need to know if you can buy the tool to make your own "Spiral Cut" Ham.
brb...
Posted by: Soothsayer


Step 1: Firmly secure ham to garage door torsion spring.

Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 12:08 AM (P1f+c)

334
Okay, so spiral cutting your own ham is not going to happen. The spiral cutter appears to be an expensive, large, and intricate piece of industrial equipment that not even the chinese will attempt to half-ass duplicate for the homeowner. And the chinese will attempt to make anything and sell it to us.

So you need to buy your ham already spiral-cut, and then cook it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:09 AM (+OPjz)

335
So you need to buy your ham already spiral-cut, and then cook it.
Posted by: Soothsayer


Is that in one piece like a ham Slinky?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2021 12:11 AM (63Dwl)

336 Common Tater, I think the Comstock Lode also accelerated Nevada's admission to the Union, which needed that silver/$ for a slight unpleasantness involving the northern and southern states.

The silver ore was basically spoil from the gold mines, we were told it was being used for road building and other construction purposes.

Thought it was the European space agency that effed up with metric vs. imperial on one of their Mars landers, not NASA?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 22, 2021 12:11 AM (OTzUX)

337 In the price/performance matrix, it's a win in my book.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 12:06 AM (QzJWU)

Hells yes.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 22, 2021 12:12 AM (4I/2K)

338
Actually, you could very well "Red Green" a ham spiral cutter with a Sawzall.

But you need to set up a sturdy Turn Table to set the ham on and turn it slowly.

Nah, you need a Vertical Spit contraption. Like a rotisserie, but vertical.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:12 AM (+OPjz)

339 So you need to buy your ham already spiral-cut, and then cook it.

...

Or warm it up.

I don't think I've ever seen a raw, spiral cut ham.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 22, 2021 12:12 AM (5We2S)

340 Is that in one piece like a ham Slinky?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2021 12:11 AM


And now I'm laughing, imagining a ham slinky going down the stairs.

Posted by: Bert G at December 22, 2021 12:12 AM (AvN9S)

341 How bad an investor was U.S. Grant?

He wound up having to turn to Mark Twain for economic stabilization for his family as he was dying of cancer.

Posted by: sven at December 22, 2021 12:13 AM (Lzpvj)

342 Here's the thing about the Tom Sims Bourbon. I'll never claim that it's a "great" BOURBON. I will claim though, that it's a great BARGAIN...

In the price/performance matrix, it's a win in my book.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 12:06 AM (QzJWU)


If YOU enjoy it, that's all that matters. I just hope you're able to keep finding it when you want it. Heaven Hill may not be making it anymore. For your sake, I hope that's not the case. But they can probably age those barrels a bit longer and sell them as a different "brand" at a higher price. The demand for bourbon is still increasing.

Posted by: Doof at December 22, 2021 12:13 AM (mZUr4)

343 Roadside America page for the sundial in Frankfort, Kentucky...
https://tinyurl.com/2p8za3vf
Posted by: Doof at December 22, 2021 12:03 AM (mZUr4)

That is very nicely done.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 22, 2021 12:13 AM (4I/2K)

344
Is that in one piece like a ham Slinky?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


Yeah, I guess, because the knife goes right up against the bone as the ham rotates.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:14 AM (+OPjz)

345 Don't know if this would help but - The company has 5 principals on record; The principals are Ed Shapira, Gary Shapira, George Shapira, Marion Rebecca Steinbock, and Marvin L Smith.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 11:30 PM (mD/uy)


what you do then is go through the secretary of state's business division and (if you can) search the corporation database by those names to see what else they are involved in. See if you can match an address too. Probably have a liquor manufacturing board or manufacturer's business group to see if the names are listed online as well. Newspaper sites also list names to check what they have been named publicly attending or winning awards or similar stuff.

If they are on other manufacturers' boards you have one answer, and if they just do promotions or sales you can figure they are just a marketing front.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2021 12:15 AM (ZMraq)

346 ..And now I'm laughing, imagining a ham slinky going down the stairs. Posted by: Bert G at December 22, 2021 12:12 AM (AvN9S)

Miss Piggy, descending the Grand Stairway of a cruise ship, wearing a sequined, off the shoulder evening gown with a slit up the closely fitted skirt.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 12:15 AM (QzJWU)

347 Actually, you could very well "Red Green" a ham spiral cutter with a Sawzall.

But you need to set up a sturdy Turn Table to set the ham on and turn it slowly.

Nah, you need a Vertical Spit contraption. Like a rotisserie, but vertical.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:12 AM (+OPjz)

Can you form some sort of rudimentary lathe?

Posted by: Guy Fleegman at December 22, 2021 12:16 AM (4I/2K)

348 Nah, you need a Vertical Spit contraption. Like a rotisserie, but vertical.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:12 AM



Like this: https://tinyurl.com/ycyw256x

Posted by: Bert G at December 22, 2021 12:16 AM (AvN9S)

349 Ham Slinky!! That would be a great nic.

Posted by: Doof at December 22, 2021 12:16 AM (mZUr4)

350
I don't think I've ever seen a raw, spiral cut ham.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger


I think you're right.
You could "glaze" it yourself, but I guess it would be already cooked.

Never cooked a ham in my life, but I bought a few from Honey Baked Hams.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:16 AM (+OPjz)

351 341 How bad an investor was U.S. Grant?

He wound up having to turn to Mark Twain for economic stabilization for his family as he was dying of cancer.

Posted by: sven at December 22, 2021 12:13 AM (Lzpvj)

Even so, the story of how he willed himself to live through incredible pain just long enough to restore his family's fortune is one of the most inspiring and incredible stories in American history.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2021 12:17 AM (evAgx)

352 How bad an investor was U.S. Grant?

He wound up having to turn to Mark Twain for economic stabilization for his family as he was dying of cancer.

Posted by: sven at December 22, 2021 12:13 AM (Lzpvj)

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I guess he never heard of 10 percent for the Big Guy

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2021 12:17 AM (VxC1e)

353 Pondered getting a glencairn for general purpose booze tasting, but have ended up using a stemless bowl-shaped (red wine) wine glass from Ikea ($2), so far. I did get a nice stemmed nosing glass from Crate Und Barrel, which I use first time or if really wanting to focus on the aromas.

For $2, I can break as many of these wine glasses as is likely without too much pain. Not that I try to break them.

Also wondering getting a snifter for an intended slow plunge into cognac/armagnac/calvados etc. Which brings me back to Bitter Clinger - that 25-yr Delord sounds .... expensive (just checked, $69). Any experience in trying armagnacs of varying $, how high does one have to go for good stuff?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 22, 2021 12:18 AM (OTzUX)

354 349 Ham Slinky!! That would be a great nic.
Posted by: Doof at December 22, 2021 12:16 AM (mZUr4)

Sounds mildly obscene.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 22, 2021 12:18 AM (II3Gr)

355 Miss Piggy, descending the Grand Stairway of a cruise ship, wearing a sequined, off the shoulder evening gown with a slit up the closely fitted skirt.

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 12:15 AM


That would be a ham slinkily going down the stairs!

Posted by: Bert G at December 22, 2021 12:18 AM (AvN9S)

356 That is very nicely done.
Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. Biden Say I Did The Wrong Thing & Will Be Punished This Winter at December 22, 2021 12:13 AM (4I/2K)


Agree. I've been there twice. Very serene. A unique memorial.

Posted by: Doof at December 22, 2021 12:18 AM (mZUr4)

357
Like this: https://tinyurl.com/ycyw256x
Posted by: Bert G


Yeah, like that.
That's a neat looking unit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:20 AM (+OPjz)

358 FUN FACT: When unwound, a typical spiral sliced ham will reach from Marshall Fields in Chicago to the Santa Monica Pier.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2021 12:20 AM (VxC1e)

359 Ham Slinky!! That would be a great nic.
Posted by: Doof at December 22, 2021 12:16 AM (mZUr4)

Sounds mildly obscene.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 22, 2021 12:18 AM (II3Gr)


*nods - but also points to the nic of the COB who posted this here ONT*

Posted by: Doof at December 22, 2021 12:20 AM (mZUr4)

360 If I were asked to spiral cut a ham that wasn't already cut that way, I might try to use some sort of monofilament wire on a cooked ham.

Make loops around the ham and then cinch it until the filament cut through to the bone.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 22, 2021 12:21 AM (5We2S)

361 351 Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2021 12:17 AM (evAgx)

Quite, he is my personal hero. I value his insight on the civil war greatly.

352 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2021 12:17 AM (VxC1e)

All kidding aside he was accused of graft but most likely just was blind to it.

"The Ohio Gang" rose to notoriety a decade after Grant's time in office but the seedcorn was already there.

Posted by: sven at December 22, 2021 12:23 AM (Lzpvj)

362 come to think of it, shwarma is like a spiral cut ham, just assembled instead cut from a single ham . . . and not from ham of course.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2021 12:23 AM (ZMraq)

363 Nah, you need a Vertical Spit contraption. Like a rotisserie, but vertical.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:12 AM (+OPjz)
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Band saw.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2021 12:23 AM (HCRRg)

364 In Mexico shwarma is sold as "al pastor" and comes in a wider array of meats.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2021 12:24 AM (ZMraq)

365
The only reason I brought up the ham was because Ham was always the Christmas Eve meal, and turkey for Christmas Day.

I don't why, but that's what we always did.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:25 AM (+OPjz)

366 Well folks, it's time for me to get some sleep. Thanks for letting me hang out with y'all. Peace out, Hordelings!

Posted by: Doof at December 22, 2021 12:25 AM (mZUr4)

367 If you can get the ham to spin on an axis, and be held securely as it spins, you could use a angle grinder with a sturdy cut off wheel. hold it at an appropriate angle and you will spin the ham while slicing it in a spiral.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2021 12:25 AM (ZMraq)

368 I don't think I've ever seen a raw, spiral cut ham.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 22, 2021 12:12 AM (5We2S)

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It took decades of selective breeding to develop pigs whose hindquarters were naturally spiral-sliced.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2021 12:26 AM (VxC1e)

369 Ham Slinky!! That would be a great nic.
Posted by: Doof

Sounds mildly obscene.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker.


Sounds like the masculine equivalent of "Beef Curtains".

Both of whom opened for Meat Loaf on his European tour in '82.

Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 12:26 AM (P1f+c)

370 Beef Curtains had a mildly successful career as a leading man in B movies back in the 70s.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2021 12:28 AM (VxC1e)

371 If you can get the ham to spin on an axis, and be held securely as it spins, you could use a angle grinder with a sturdy cut off wheel. hold it at an appropriate angle and you will spin the ham while slicing it in a spiral.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2021 12:25 AM (ZMraq)

A variable speed, reversible drill held securely vertically in chocks and using a long drill bit centered through the ham bone? Just need a fitting to make the ham rotate with the drill bit.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Pureblood. at December 22, 2021 12:30 AM (4I/2K)

372 Laser cut ham.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2021 12:31 AM (63Dwl)

373 Which brings me back to Bitter Clinger - that 25-yr Delord sounds .... expensive (just checked, $69). Any experience in trying armagnacs of varying $, how high does one have to go for good stuff?

.....

I've only tried a handful.

Honestly, Armagnacs are a bit like wine, in that quality varies from year to year, mostly because Armagnac is made from wines that were intended to be consumed as wines rather than wines intended for distilling, as with Cognacs.

So you'll notice certain years of armagnacs fetching higher prices than others.

And just like wines, it's possible to stumble across bottles you really like for more reasonable prices. Rather than price point, I tend to look at age. Anything younger than 10 years seems a bit too loud.

If you don't want to fork out for Delord, you could try Marie Duffau Hors d'age, which is still made by Delord. Save yourself about $20 and get a really nice 12 year.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 22, 2021 12:33 AM (5We2S)

374 What? No avocado green?
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2021 11:34 PM (+lVUW)

I lived in a share cropper house with a couple of other guys when in collage for a while. I had the only bedroom. I proudly painted it avocado green. This was ~ 1967. I was in style.

Posted by: Javems at December 22, 2021 12:33 AM (AmoqO)

375 Laser cut ham.

It wasn't originally a torture device.

Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at December 22, 2021 12:34 AM (kOpft)

376 And in despair I bowed my head:
"There is no peace on earth," I said,
"For hate is strong, and mocks the song
Of peace on earth, good will to men."
Then pealed the bells more loud and deep:
"God is not dead, nor doth He sleep;
The wrong shall fail, the right prevail,
With peace on earth, good will to men"
Those two verses both choke me up, then remind me that victory is coming.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

Only love can conquer hate.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Santa Claus is coming to town at December 22, 2021 12:35 AM (tjZg/)

377 Three-axis CNC ham!

Posted by: JEM tami's donation link is http://strayrescue.org I'm in for $100 at December 22, 2021 12:36 AM (jIeMQ)

378 Was Armagnac some guy on Star Trek?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2021 12:36 AM (63Dwl)

379 I don't know why but now I need to know if you can buy the tool to make your own "Spiral Cut" Ham.
brb...
Posted by: Soothsayer


Step 1: Set turntable to "33-1/3", or to "45" for thinner slices.

Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 12:37 AM (P1f+c)

380 Kroger Spiral Cut hams are only cut the first 1/3 to 1/2 anyways. That leaves quite a bit to slice up on your own.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Pureblood. at December 22, 2021 12:37 AM (4I/2K)

381 Was Armagnac some guy on Star Trek?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2021 12:36 AM (63Dwl)


one of the Three Musketeers. The moody one, I think.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2021 12:38 AM (ZMraq)

382 Was Armagnac some guy on Star Trek?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2021 12:36 AM (63Dwl)


Yeah, but just for one episode in Season 2. Red Shirt, you know the rest. He really did ham it up in his death scene though. Spiraled in, actually.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 12:38 AM (QzJWU)

383 It hasn't been launched yet, and no. 1000x more powerful than the Hubble. Incredible piece of technology. Launching very soon, from Guyana. Like within weeks.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus

December 24th

It will be launched on an Ariane 5 booster.
It will be positioned in the L2 (LaGrange) point, about a million miles from earth. It will always be in the earth's shadow, and will be cooled to about -390 degrees F, so that it's infrared camera will work optimally.
It is theorized to be able to "look back" at the red-shifted light from nearly the beginning of the Universe.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Santa Claus is coming to town at December 22, 2021 12:39 AM (tjZg/)

384 378 Was Armagnac some guy on Star Trek?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


I am depressed to report that a tour of wikipedia shows that, while it's a region of France that makes brandy, there's no reference to why it was named that.

Posted by: JEM tami's donation link is http://strayrescue.org at December 22, 2021 12:39 AM (jIeMQ)

385 It is theorized to be able to "look back" at the red-shifted light from nearly the beginning of the Universe.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative


That speeding ticket is hella overdue.

Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 12:40 AM (P1f+c)

386 Listening to Beethoven's Choral #9.
I think he loved his wife...a lot.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2021 12:41 AM (2L0fX)

387 We need to "look forward" at the violet-shifted light.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2021 12:42 AM (63Dwl)

388 379 I don't know why but now I need to know if you can buy the tool to make your own "Spiral Cut" Ham.
brb...
Posted by: Soothsayer

Step 1: Set turntable to "33-1/3", or to "45" for thinner slices.
Posted by: mikeski


When you play it backward you get 'Porky is alive'

Posted by: JEM tami's donation link is http://strayrescue.org at December 22, 2021 12:45 AM (jIeMQ)

389 We need to "look forward" at the violet-shifted light.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


It's blinking. Morse code?

Don't .. send .. cash .. to .. Wuhan ..

Should have got that telescope up a few years ago.

Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 12:45 AM (P1f+c)

390 All this ham talk..., you guys got a beef against kosher meat?

Posted by: SFGoth at December 22, 2021 12:48 AM (KAi1n)

391 386 Listening to Beethoven's Choral #9.
I think he loved his wife...a lot.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2021 12:41 AM (2L0fX)

I drove a big truck for a couple of years. Often my windows were pulsing with Beethoven's 9th while rolling down the road. He and Bach.

Posted by: Javems at December 22, 2021 12:48 AM (AmoqO)

392 Keep in mind that beginning in the '70s we started to go ape over things we made and used that were "toxic".

They changed the formulations on a whole lot of stuff and it took a while for companies to use stuff that wasn't toxic and still come out with the same results as the toxic stuff. We still haven't reached where we were back in the 50s. The chemical industry is very very old. Lots of experimentation and investigation went into the results which were in use at the time. We then demanded that they stop using the stuff they had used. Without warning and with very little reason for being so sensitive to even the slightest indication it might be bad for the health - - - of some rats.

It's taken years for flush toilets to recover their abilities.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 22, 2021 12:48 AM (IeyEJ)

393
This is a real ham Spiral Slicer:

https://youtu.be/XwpHKYENZe8

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 12:49 AM (+OPjz)

394 Clearly whoever wrote the RFP/Spec for the contractor and whoever qualified the contractors work failed spectacularly at their job.

Probably got a promotion.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2021 10:58 PM (Pxkfv)

The ICD, Software Description Documents and Data Dictionary should have specified units. On both sides of the interface.

Posted by: Fox2! at December 22, 2021 12:50 AM (qyH+l)

395 The cars of the 50's and 60's had really nice colors. 100's pf pieces of trim, nice colors, nice materials, and you can tell who made what. These days a lot of cars look the same.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 22, 2021 12:50 AM (VwHCD)

396 Re: Elon Musk. Senator Karen Fauxcahontas recently accused him of not paying taxes.

Turns out he's paying $11 billion this year alone, which works out to over $1 million/day -- for every single day since he came to the United States in 1992.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 22, 2021 12:53 AM (bW8dp)

397 ..The cars of the 50's and 60's had really nice colors. 100's pf pieces of trim, nice colors, nice materials, and you can tell who made what. These days a lot of cars look the same. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 22, 2021 12:50 AM (VwHCD)

The Wind Tunnel. MPG's best friend. Styling's worst enemy. Everything looks like the same drag-reducing shape, and "styling" is but minor differences in crease-lines on the panels, meant to reduce "drumming" if the metal was left flat and featurless.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 12:53 AM (QzJWU)

398 Keep in mind that beginning in the '70s we started to go ape over things we made and used that were "toxic".

They changed the formulations on a whole lot of stuff and it took a while for companies to use stuff that wasn't toxic and still come out with the same results as the toxic stuff. We still haven't reached where we were back in the 50s. The chemical industry is very very old. Lots of experimentation and investigation went into the results which were in use at the time. We then demanded that they stop using the stuff they had used. Without warning and with very little reason for being so sensitive to even the slightest indication it might be bad for the health - - - of some rats.

It's taken years for flush toilets to recover their abilities.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 22, 2021 12:48 AM (IeyEJ)

yeah, they get things settled over time to what is the best way to do something, and then some fuckface in california decides it causes cancer in some germ 3 planets over, and poof, now they make it like shit. Again, blame the left.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 22, 2021 12:54 AM (VwHCD)

399 > I don't know why but now I need to know if you can buy the tool to make your own "Spiral Cut" Ham.
brb...

I don't know about spiral cut, but I did recently see a meme of a package of cubed ham that had been photoshopped to say "Porky Pig 3D Puzzle". Made me laugh.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 22, 2021 12:55 AM (bW8dp)

400 Sam Elliot married Katherine Ross in 1984, they have one daughter. They went shopping today. _DM
Pretty good.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2021 12:55 AM (2L0fX)

401 These days a lot of cars look the same.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division


Fuel economy standards. Or trying to make your solar coal-fired car go further.

There aren't that many correct answers to the question "how do you minimize wind resistance?"

Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 12:55 AM (P1f+c)

402 or what Jim said. Hordemind.

Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 12:56 AM (P1f+c)

403 Armagnac takes its name from an infamous tavern - The Arm & Yak - where the Capetians would buttchug the rarest vintages.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 22, 2021 12:57 AM (QU5/8)

404 I would think a potters wheel and something stabby would get a rough cut of the spiral ham done.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 22, 2021 12:58 AM (cupoy)

405 404 I would think a potters wheel and something stabby would get a rough cut of the spiral ham done.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 22, 2021 12:58 AM (cupoy)

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A circular saw. But by all means use eye protection.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2021 01:00 AM (VxC1e)

406 Berserker. Bell Aircraft modeled the X-1 on the .50 cal. BMG projectile's contours, as they *knew* it was stable to above Mach 2.

Likewise, auto manufacturers model their "designs" on several proven aerodynamic shapes. The 2013 Honda Accord was a very distinctive, "of it's own" design. The current model? It's shape hardly differs from many of it's competitors, other than said crease-lines and other minor details.

Same in the small to mid-size SUV world. Each brand would fit neatly into the other brand's Egg Carton of a dozen each.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 01:01 AM (QzJWU)

407 We don't really have true spiral hams today. The ancients built Stonehenge to make the calculations necessary to prepare a true spiral ham. Their ways are now lost to us. Perhaps forever.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 22, 2021 01:02 AM (QU5/8)

408 There aren't that many correct answers to the question "how do you minimize wind resistance?"
Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 12:55 AM (P1f+c)
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And there is one best answer to a *CAFE standards.

*they can keep the emission standards, they helped

Posted by: Braenyard at December 22, 2021 01:02 AM (2L0fX)

409 I would think a potters wheel and something stabby would get a rough cut of the spiral ham done.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here


Now if you wanted a spiral-cut spam, you could do this, and just wad it up and try again if you got it wrong. Just like pottery.

Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 01:02 AM (P1f+c)

410 390 All this ham talk..., you guys got a beef against kosher meat?
Posted by: SFGoth at December 22, 2021 12:48 AM (KAi1n)

Sorry 'bout that. It was shellfish of us.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 22, 2021 01:03 AM (cupoy)

411 There aren't that many correct answers to the question "how do you minimize wind resistance?"
Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 12:55 AM (P1f+c)

This is the best answer. Still setting records at Bonneville:


https://tinyurl.com/2p839z2b

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:03 AM (P3gRi)

412 407 We don't really have true spiral hams today. The ancients built Stonehenge to make the calculations necessary to prepare a true spiral ham. Their ways are now lost to us. Perhaps forever.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 22, 2021 01:02 AM (QU5/

So only Atlantians and the Ancient Druids knew how to Spiral a Ham?

What about the Cimmerians? or did they just hack the shit out of it?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 22, 2021 01:03 AM (oHd/0)

413
Drills, Sawzalls, Band Saws, Lasers, Potters Wheels, Cut Off Wheels, Angle Grinders, ...


I thought I was crazy.

My friends, we're talking about a ham, here. We're not rebuilding a '64 Ford Thunderbird.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:03 AM (+OPjz)

414
407 We don't really have true spiral hams today

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We do have close cousins. The Escher ham is one. It seems to be spiral until you look closely.

Then there is the Mobius ham, whose slices can be mathematically shown to go on forever.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2021 01:04 AM (VxC1e)

415 I thought I was crazy.

My friends, we're talking about a ham, here. We're not rebuilding a '64 Ford Thunderbird.
Posted by: Soothsayer


We haven't gotten to the waterjet and the 5-axis CNC...

Posted by: JEM tami's donation link is http://strayrescue.org at December 22, 2021 01:04 AM (jIeMQ)

416 Once when I was driving I stopped at a small truck stop in Tupelo MS. I walked next door to a Motel with a bar and and grill. When I entered the bar I could have thought I was in New York or London.

I ordered a steak and was enjoying it when I struck up a conversation with a man and his daughter sitting at the bar. He was a tenor and she a soprano with the local opera company. Yes, the have/had an opera company in Tupelo. I told them I was a Beethoven fan and and they started singing parts of the 9th. Brought me to tears, as it does now.

Posted by: Javems at December 22, 2021 01:04 AM (AmoqO)

417 Then there is the Mobius ham, whose slices can be mathematically shown to go on forever.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2021 01:04 AM (VxC1e)

Mobius bacon would be great. You wouldn't have to flip it, since it only has one side.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:05 AM (P3gRi)

418 Then there is the Mobius ham, whose slices can be mathematically shown to go on forever.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)


And it takes a whole Klein bottle of mustard to coat just one slice.

Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 01:06 AM (P1f+c)

419
Was it Euler, Boole, Descartes, or Euclid who first did the first mathematical Proof for a spiraled ham?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:06 AM (+OPjz)

420 This is the best answer. Still setting records at Bonneville:

https://tinyurl.com/2p839z2b


Take one LSR vehicle, convert to EV, go out and set more records:

https://www.teamvesco.com/

Posted by: JEM tami's donation link is http://strayrescue.org at December 22, 2021 01:06 AM (jIeMQ)

421 I think therefore I ham

Posted by: Descartes at December 22, 2021 01:07 AM (cupoy)

422 Okay, what does wind resistance have to do with spiral cutting a ham?

I've seen those spiral cutting machines, and they don't go nearly fast enough for wind resistance to be a significant factor.



Posted by: Guy Who Only Reads Half the Comments at December 22, 2021 01:07 AM (bW8dp)

423 Descartes famously said, "I think, therefore I'm ham."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2021 01:08 AM (VxC1e)

424 Bitter Clinger thanks for the helpful info on armagnac. So much booze to explore, so little time.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 22, 2021 01:08 AM (OTzUX)

425
Yeah, I forgot the suggestion of the CNC machine.

Yeah, let's put our AoS holiday ham on a LATHE!

You guys....

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:08 AM (+OPjz)

426 You gotta be kidding me

*drops ipad*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2021 01:09 AM (VxC1e)

427
We're not turning rotors, here!!

It's a ham!

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:09 AM (+OPjz)

428 Likewise, auto manufacturers model their "designs" on several proven aerodynamic shapes. The 2013 Honda Accord was a very distinctive, "of it's own" design. The current model? It's shape hardly differs from many of it's competitors, other than said crease-lines and other minor details.

Same in the small to mid-size SUV world. Each brand would fit neatly into the other brand's Egg Carton of a dozen each.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 01:01 AM (QzJWU)

yeah I know all this shit, but you would think they would break out of the mold a wee bit. It was nice to see a car and know automatically who made it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 22, 2021 01:09 AM (VwHCD)

429 May I be of some assistance?

Posted by: Edward Scissor Hands at December 22, 2021 01:09 AM (4I/2K)

430 ..Drills, Sawzalls, Band Saws, Lasers, Potters Wheels, Cut Off Wheels, Angle Grinders, ...I thought I was crazy. My friends, we're talking about a ham, here. We're not rebuilding a '64 Ford Thunderbird. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:03 AM (+OPjz)

Fire a Standard 9" ham through a Naval Rifle with an 8" bore, and 1 in 8 rifling, aligned to strike the properly angled 10" French Butcher's Knife, as the ham travels at 2,700 ft./second, spinning at +/- 200,000 RPM. The Math Morons would have to figure the angle of the blade, but a Spiral Ham *WOULD* result.

Only problem being, retrieving said spirals from the debris field well outboard and downrange of said knife. You wanted "Crazy Horde?" I give you CRAZY HORDE!

Muahahahahahaha!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 01:09 AM (QzJWU)

431 Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 12:53 AM (QzJWU)
I remember seeing in Popular Mechanics artists renditions of what future cars were going to look like.

Ugh is all I could say. How dull and uninteresting and SMALL they were. I was hoping that PM didn't know what they were talking about but they must've been included in the mailing list for how the Gov was going to screw everything up and take the delight and pleasure out of every little thing they could. For reasons.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 22, 2021 01:10 AM (IeyEJ)

432 You gotta be kidding me
*drops ipad*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)


You may not be interested in the Hordemind, but the Hordemind is interested in you.

Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 01:10 AM (P1f+c)

433 We're not turning rotors, here!!

It's a ham!
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:09 AM (+OPjz)

Actually, if you could mount the ham on the spindle of a brake lathe, and hold a sharp knife against it, you'd get a nice cut. Lots of torque, and they turn about 60 RPM.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:12 AM (P3gRi)

434 Reading a new book. I thought this quote was interesting, with regard to
War on terror
War on Covid
The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you were trying to defend from without. Dwight D Eisenhower.

Posted by: MikeM at December 22, 2021 01:12 AM (X+eRS)

435 You may not be interested in the Hordemind, but the Hordemind is interested in you.
Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 01:10 AM (P1f+c)

---------

Now all we need is for Amy Schumer to show up

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2021 01:12 AM (VxC1e)

436 US Grant was betrayed by men he trusted, many of whom had served directly under him or were vouched for by men who did, and several were crooked opportunists. I think Grant made the mistake of thinking they were as honorable as he. Honorable people are prone to that mistake. Look at Trump and some of his personnel choices, as bad as Grant's in that regard.

Posted by: troyriser at December 22, 2021 01:12 AM (pYLCQ)

437 If Presdent Obama was still are leeder , we would has a cure for the Trump virus already. We needs Presdent Obama's guidance to help everyone through this Trump created crisis.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at December 22, 2021 01:12 AM (otFiP)

438 yeah I know all this shit, but you would think they would break out of the mold a wee bit. It was nice to see a car and know automatically who made it.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division


*cough* Tesla *cough* low beltline, low hoodline, can see the ground 15ft in front of the car.

Our Model 3 Performance at 36K miles...okay, it's needed tires, and wiper blades, and NOTHING else. Going 600 miles south in a week. And it'll still slam your head into the headrest with a tickle of the right pedal.

Posted by: JEM tami's donation link is http://strayrescue.org at December 22, 2021 01:12 AM (jIeMQ)

439
btw, there are few Red Green Christmas special episodes on Youtube if you're interested



Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:12 AM (+OPjz)

440 You gotta be kidding me
*drops ipad*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

To be fair, that wasn't just a set up, it was damn near entrapment.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 22, 2021 01:12 AM (cupoy)

441 Only problem being, retrieving said spirals from the debris field well outboard and downrange of said knife. You wanted "Crazy Horde?" I give you CRAZY HORDE!

Muahahahahahaha!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 01:09 AM (QzJWU)

Only problem says he. Yeah, come aboard and help swab out the rifle bore as the pressure and heat fused ham bits and glaze to it.

Posted by: Popeye the Sailor Man at December 22, 2021 01:14 AM (4I/2K)

442
Ballistic Ham?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:15 AM (+OPjz)

443 436 US Grant was betrayed by men he trusted, many of whom had served directly under him or were vouched for by men who did, and several were crooked opportunists. I think Grant made the mistake of thinking they were as honorable as he. Honorable people are prone to that mistake. Look at Trump and some of his personnel choices, as bad as Grant's in that regard.
Posted by: troyriser


An apt analogy.

Posted by: JEM tami's donation link is http://strayrescue.org at December 22, 2021 01:16 AM (jIeMQ)

444 I remember in the late 80s being dismayed that I didn't know any of the makes or models of any cars on the road.

Oh sure some of the really "special" ones but the average day to day car? Fuggedaboutit. And NO muscle cars.

And it got progressively worse. We should've put California to a stop then. They only got worse.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 22, 2021 01:17 AM (IeyEJ)

445 Ballistic Ham?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:15 AM (+OPjz)

Plunging fire. Like what killed the HMS Hood.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. at December 22, 2021 01:17 AM (4I/2K)

446 Very similar to machining a fusee.

Posted by: Lurking machinist at December 22, 2021 01:17 AM (4Vkwh)

447 Lizzy Warren sent letters to the CEOs of Publix, Albertsons and Kroger accusing them of charging too much.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2021 01:17 AM (63Dwl)

448 The ancients didn't build Stonehenge to calculate how to make spiral ham. WTF??? Those were ancient BBQs for roasting wild boar over a raging fire.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 22, 2021 01:18 AM (KAi1n)

449 Lizzy Warren sent letters to the CEOs of Publix, Albertsons and Kroger accusing them of charging too much.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2021 01:17 AM (63Dwl)

---------

Look what threatening producers did for Venezuela!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2021 01:18 AM (VxC1e)

450
Actually, if you could mount the ham on the spindle of a brake lathe, and hold a sharp knife against it, you'd get a nice cut. Lots of torque, and they turn about 60 RPM.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Why stop there?

Let's jack up the Corolla, remove the front wheel, affix our holiday ham on the spindle, put the car in Drive and carve away!

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:18 AM (+OPjz)

451 Especially because the interface was not just between two different contracts, but between two different universes - scientists (French Imperial units) and Engineers (English/American Imperial Units). (There are often not so subtle differences between British and American units of the same name. E.g, gallons)

Posted by: Fox2! at December 22, 2021 01:20 AM (qyH+l)

452 Let's jack up the Corolla, remove the front wheel, affix our holiday ham on the spindle, put the car in Drive and carve away!

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:18 AM (+OPjz)

Wouldn't work. The knife would be deflected by Corolliasis Force.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:21 AM (P3gRi)

453 Fibonacci knew his spiral cuts. Archimedes too. Their honey glazed spiral cut hams were known as the Golden Spirals.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. at December 22, 2021 01:21 AM (4I/2K)

454
Yeah, Charter's doing real good tonight. Just a bit after I posted that last, they dropped off internet completely, and half the TV channels weren't working.

Miley lost a Hallmark movie she was watching, and that's Houston, we've got a problem level disaster.

Miley assures me that if Hallmark ever goes tranny, like a Very Tranny Christmas, tuckin' in a winter wonderland or something, she's done with it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 22, 2021 01:21 AM (Mzdiz)

455 Fire a Standard 9" ham through a Naval Rifle with an 8" bore, and 1 in 8 rifling, aligned to strike the properly angled 10" French Butcher's Knife, as the ham travels at 2,700 ft./second, spinning at +/- 200,000 RPM. The Math Morons would have to figure the angle of the blade, but a Spiral Ham *WOULD* result.

Only problem being, retrieving said spirals from the debris field well outboard and downrange of said knife. You wanted "Crazy Horde?" I give you CRAZY HORDE!
Posted by: Jim


Start here: https://youtu.be/AxJUzNiDhrA

Scale up as appropriate.

Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 01:22 AM (P1f+c)

456 So this whole losing a parent thing...it hasn't happened yet but hospice will get involved tommorrow...holy crap it hurts already

Posted by: a dude in MI at December 22, 2021 01:22 AM (+I6Y/)

457
Lizzy Warren sent letters to the CEOs of Publix, Albertsons and Kroger accusing them of charging too much.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


None of those supermarket chains are in Massachusetts, her constituency.

But, yeah, biden's inflation is not to blame, it's Krogers fault for charging too much.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:23 AM (+OPjz)

458 jakee308. GM was the WORST in that regard.

Pontiac 6000 series. Buick Century. Chebby Celebrity. Olds Cutlass. Same EXACT design, differing only in some drivetrain things, minor interior appointments and exterior trims (grille and ass-end) and wheel treatments. Other than those, they all cut the exact same image in profile and design.

Product of the Bean Counter Era at GM, much as McNamera gave the F/B-111 as a "do everything" platform to the Armed Forces. And the GM series was about as equally effective, in the doing.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 01:23 AM (QzJWU)

459 Start here: https://youtu.be/AxJUzNiDhrA

Scale up as appropriate.
Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 01:22 AM (P1f+c)

LOL. Like the guy using liquid oxygen to insta-start his charcoal bbq grill.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. at December 22, 2021 01:24 AM (4I/2K)

460
So this whole losing a parent thing...it hasn't happened yet but hospice will get involved tommorrow...holy crap it hurts already
Posted by: a dude in MI


Sorry, man.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:25 AM (+OPjz)

461
Price Gougers. Hoarders. Wreckers. Saboteurs.

Peronist banana republic playbook.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 22, 2021 01:25 AM (Mzdiz)

462
Wouldn't work. The knife would be deflected by Corolliasis Force.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:21 AM (P3gRi)

So in the Northern Hemisphere, you need to turn the steering wheel to the left to compensate?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 22, 2021 01:26 AM (cupoy)

463 last thread, there was love for the Town Car. I have an 03 Cartier. What makes this Townie a good contender for Greatest Car for Normal Use ever is a wonderful combination of things. The platform is conventional so easy and simple to work on. And it was used for police and taxicabs so extremely robust. The engine is at that perfect level of circa late 90s tech where you get adequate power as well as decent mileage. 239 gross hp and 23-25 MPG on the freeway. The 4.6 also lasts 300k or more if you change the oil. And the car is the size of a 70s midsize, so big enough to be comfortable. No giant center console and the shift lever is on the column where it belongs. It has every gadget you really need, including dual temp control. Many luxury cars suffer from the "boasting tech", so once they are out of warranty, repairs will cost you a mint. Townies have rear air suspension, so you have a height sensor, a compressor, and two bags, none of which are very costly. The rest of the mechanicals are taxicab and not expensive. The whole thing is genius, and we will probably never see anything like it again cause normal luxury cars provide much more profit for their makers.

Posted by: Azjaeger at December 22, 2021 01:26 AM (3/XaG)

464 I milled some "lumber" today. Took firewood splits off the dead Mulberry tree I cut up, and fed them through the table saw, using the rip fence as a guide. Biggest hunk, so far, is about 2X3 inches by a foot long. Nice straight-grained wood, mustard yellow to dark brown in color. Heavy, too.

I think I need to build what the table saw people call a "skate"? A sliding frame that the workpiece can be clamped to as it is fed through the blade.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:26 AM (P3gRi)

465 Posted by: a dude in MI at December 22, 2021 01:22 AM

Prayers up for you and yours.

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 01:26 AM (dB4Iz)

466 So this whole losing a parent thing...it hasn't happened yet but hospice will get involved tommorrow...holy crap it hurts already
Posted by: a dude in MI


Prayers for all involved.

Posted by: mikeski at December 22, 2021 01:27 AM (P1f+c)

467 So this whole losing a parent thing...it hasn't happened yet but hospice will get involved tommorrow...holy crap it hurts already
Posted by: a dude in MI at December 22, 2021 01:22 AM (+I6Y/)

Condolences, dude. BTDT.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:29 AM (P3gRi)

468 456 So this whole losing a parent thing...it hasn't happened yet but hospice will get involved tommorrow...holy crap it hurts already
Posted by: a dude in MI at December 22, 2021 01:22 AM (+I6Y/)

I'm sorry you're facing that situation. There is no easy way to do it. Let the hospice people help. Ask a ton of questions. The hospice folks were hugely helpful for our family.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 22, 2021 01:30 AM (cupoy)

469 So this whole losing a parent thing...it hasn't happened yet but hospice will get involved tommorrow...holy crap it hurts already
Posted by: a dude in MI at December 22, 2021 01:22 AM (+I6Y/)

May God's love hold you up.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. at December 22, 2021 01:30 AM (4I/2K)

470 CBD, did I misinterpret from your article that you are not Christian? Or were you simply saying you like all religious devotion even when it is not yours as a general statement not connected to Christmas?

Posted by: John Milton's Ghost at December 22, 2021 01:31 AM (PTYkn)

471
last thread, there was love for the Town Car. I have an 03 Cartier.
Posted by: Azjaeger


Nice choice. I'm sort of a Lincoln fan -- I have an old Navigator.

I'd bet you could find a low-miles Town Car in Florida.
There's always some son of an old guy selling his pop's Lincoln or Cadillac.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:31 AM (+OPjz)

472 dude in MI. A long and familiar nic.

You need anything, even a voice to talk to, you get in touch with me via the link in my nic. I, and I'm sure, the Horde, are HERE for you. I know that you know.

But, reminders don't hurt, and I wanted to remind you.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 01:32 AM (QzJWU)

473 Re: grocery prices... Crazy expensive and getting worse daily! Oh sure, the demonrats blame the grocers.

Projection. Deflection. Lies. Propaganda.

F*ck Joe Biden!

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 01:33 AM (dB4Iz)

474 I'd bet you could find a low-miles Town Car in Florida.
There's always some son of an old guy selling his pop's Lincoln or Cadillac.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:31 AM (+OPjz)

Plenty of them here in Arizona snowbird country, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:33 AM (P3gRi)

475 We had the big lights, the silver and gold garland, the ugly ornaments, all the glorious crap that made Christmas wonderful.
Posted by: Soothsayer

I found one string of the old, monster lights hidden away. This year I draped them on the bench outside - I think they are beautiful - warm colors. Much better than the sterile white lights we all use now.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2021 11:16 PM

Last year, my baby brother and I sweet-talked my parents into letting us fix up the big wooden star that my dad made to hold the blue light set that his older brother made in the '40s. My brother recovered the star in aluminum foil (the tin foil had broken down) and I repainted the bulbs. It looked really good hanging on the deck.

There's something to be said for the big, American things.

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 01:35 AM (/+bwe)

476 Townies have rear air suspension, so you have a height sensor, a compressor, and two bags, none of which are very costly.

FFS I now know everything I need to know about Mercedes Airmatic suspension, rebuilt a GL550 stem to stern for $2k, the $80 autel dongle does everything you need diagnostically, I could do these all week. Trivial.

Posted by: JEM at December 22, 2021 01:36 AM (jIeMQ)

477 smells like a raykon

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:38 AM (P3gRi)

478 confirmed

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:39 AM (P3gRi)

479
Last year, my baby brother and I sweet-talked my parents into letting us fix up the big wooden star that my dad made to hold the blue light set that his older brother made in the '40s. My brother recovered the star in aluminum foil (the tin foil had broken down) and I repainted the bulbs. It looked really good hanging on the deck.

Posted by: NaughtyPine


Nice save.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:41 AM (+OPjz)

480 My Christmas tablecloths have needlepoint deer patterns. I found a pair of deer candleholders at a thrift store and thought they'd be a good match. They looked greenish with white streaks. I got them home, started polishing them, and realized someone had put cleaner on them and hadn't scrubbed it off.

They're brass!

I looked online and found their twins for $45-55. I paid a little over $8.

Now I feel like I should repaint the dining area to match the classiness. Ha ha.

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 01:41 AM (/+bwe)

481 Now I feel like I should repaint the dining area to match the classiness. Ha ha.
Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 01:41 AM (/+bwe)

An elephant's foot umbrella stand would be nice. You could paint the toenails red and green for Christmas.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:44 AM (P3gRi)

482 Nice save.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:41 AM

Thanks!

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 01:45 AM (/+bwe)

483 An elephant's foot umbrella stand would be nice. You could paint the toenails red and green for Christmas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:44 AM

Oh, that would be great! Then I'd have to buy a fancy umbrella or two...

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 01:46 AM (/+bwe)

484 raykon: brand of bothers

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:46 AM (P3gRi)

485 Somewhere, (probably out in the barn) is a whole box full of 1980s vintage C9 strings and replacement bulbs. Picked them up on clearance at the Navy Exchange for $2 per string, 2cents per bulb.

The old old old ones have black and red wiring, probably 50s or early 60s? Replaced carefully into their original boxes by a now long-gone uncle.

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 01:47 AM (dB4Iz)

486 AOP - I made the phone switch to ting and it's been working well. I should save $10 - $15 per month over what I was paying Verizon, before taxes. Thanks!

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. at December 22, 2021 01:49 AM (4I/2K)

487 Thank you all. They just had their 61st anniversary a few days ago. Im certain he will hear 'Well done, good and faithful servant' in the near future. Seeing them embrace tonight..I lost it..2 peas in a pod as they say.

Posted by: a dude in MI at December 22, 2021 01:50 AM (+I6Y/)

488 Somewhere, (probably out in the barn) is a whole box full of 1980s vintage C9 strings and replacement bulbs. Picked them up on clearance at the Navy Exchange for $2 per string, 2cents per bulb.

The old old old ones have black and red wiring, probably 50s or early 60s? Replaced carefully into their original boxes by a now long-gone uncle.
Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 01:47 AM (dB4Iz)

I have some of those at home. 1950's vintage; the wiring is cotton-covered rubber, with sort of a houndstooth pattern to it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:50 AM (P3gRi)

489 AOP - I made the phone switch to ting and it's been working well. I should save $10 - $15 per month over what I was paying Verizon, before taxes. Thanks!
Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. at December 22, 2021 01:49 AM (4I/2K)

Good! They have treated me pretty well.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 01:51 AM (P3gRi)

490 AOP, my lights do not have the cloth-wrapping. Probably 60s then.

But I remember the houndstooth cloth wire coverings-- all of Grandma's appliance cords had it!

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 01:55 AM (dB4Iz)

491 492 Thank you all. They just had their 61st anniversary a few days ago. Im certain he will hear 'Well done, good and faithful servant' in the near future. Seeing them embrace tonight..I lost it..2 peas in a pod as they say.
Posted by: a dude in MI at December 22, 2021 01:50 AM

That's hard, Dude. My folks were diagnosed with cancer the same day in June. So far, they're doing well but declining all the same. It's hard to think about anything further than now, though, and just be grateful. *hugs to you*

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 01:57 AM (/+bwe)

492 Remember 'Noma' brand lights? Wired in series... one burns out, they all go out, and you spend a while finding which one.

Good times, good times!

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 01:57 AM (dB4Iz)

493 Raykon, toilet paper was meant to deal with your replacement.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 01:57 AM (QzJWU)

494
Seeing them embrace tonight..I lost it..2 peas in a pod as they say.
Posted by: a dude in MI


And now you're cherishing every precious moment. What more can you do.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:58 AM (+OPjz)

495 Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 01:57 AM

^
This. Hang on to the remaining moments.

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 01:59 AM (dB4Iz)

496 Their honey glazed spiral cut hams were known as the Golden Spirals.

Did you ever try to read a commenter joke to someone, and realize you have to back up and explain all the precedents going back upthread... and you just end up with "you had to be there."

Milady just walked by and saw the Golden Spirals comment and laughed, after hearing me read many of the foregoing bits.

This Horde!

Posted by: mindful webworker - Escher-cut gyros at December 22, 2021 02:00 AM (PukHz)

497 Raykon. Consumer Cellular is AARP, and AARP is not only Gun Control, but Pro Infantcide and every other accursed aspect of the left on the leftist's menu.

From which, you dine often.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 02:00 AM (QzJWU)

498 Zot! The faint scent of ozone lingers.

Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. at December 22, 2021 02:05 AM (4I/2K)

499 This. Hang on to the remaining moments.
Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 01:59 AM (dB4Iz)

That's why it's been a complete bitch to be quarantined. I took down the tree and all the decorations but the Nativity, just to avoid feeling the blues this coming weekend.

But my parents, who aren't demonstrative, have called every day to check on me. Mom said if I felt worse, I should call and she'll come to stay with me. Dad said, "You're coming home before New Year's" flat-out. I'm kind of laugh-crying just thinking about that!

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 02:06 AM (/+bwe)

500 As much as my mother in law, AKA "the ham fairy" deluges us with ham, I do like spiral ham. I always thought there was more to spiral ham than it just looking like a large meat bolt.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 22, 2021 02:07 AM (VwHCD)

501 Remember 'Noma' brand lights? Wired in series... one burns out, they all go out, and you spend a while finding which one.

Good times, good times!
Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 01:57 AM (dB4Iz)

Noma is still around. Now a branch of Canadian Tire Corporation. I remember series-string lights. When one went dark, I would take a new bulb, screw it in the end of the string, and advance the removed bub to #2 spot, rinse and repeat until the string came good.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 02:07 AM (P3gRi)

502 That's why it's been a complete bitch to be quarantined. I took down the tree and all the decorations but the Nativity, just to avoid feeling the blues this coming weekend.

But my parents, who aren't demonstrative, have called every day to check on me. Mom said if I felt worse, I should call and she'll come to stay with me. Dad said, "You're coming home before New Year's" flat-out. I'm kind of laugh-crying just thinking about that!


Aw, man...

I'm so very sorry.

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 02:08 AM (dB4Iz)

503 Berserker, your "ham fairy" rants were hilarious.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 22, 2021 02:09 AM (OTzUX)

504 Zot! The faint scent of ozone lingers.
Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. at December 22, 2021 02:05 AM (4I/2K)

Aha! Raykon got zapped. His "fist" is so distinctive, I can recognize it in one post.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 02:10 AM (P3gRi)

505 take a new bulb, screw it in the end of the string, and advance the removed bub to #2 spot, rinse and repeat until the string came good.

Yep. And it took a while, especially when said lights were on the tree LOL

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 02:11 AM (dB4Iz)

506 So this whole losing a parent thing...it hasn't happened yet but hospice will get involved tomorrow...holy crap it hurts already
Posted by: a dude in MI


Mom died in August at 101. Came home from a day out at her favorite restaurant, with her favorite granddaughter (our daughter), fell, broke her hip. One hip replacement later, she's broken in more than bones. One week later she was dead. I can't go into what happened, but it will always hurt, especially imagining that there was a chance she might have had some more good years in her, if only if only.

Posted by: mindful webworker - relatively speaking at December 22, 2021 02:12 AM (PukHz)

507 Noma is still around. Now a branch of Canadian Tire Corporation. I remember series-string lights. When one went dark, I would take a new bulb, screw it in the end of the string, and advance the removed bub to #2 spot, rinse and repeat until the string came good.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 02:07 AM

It's a Christmas tradition!!!

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 02:12 AM (/+bwe)

508 Well, since some unlamented now gone commenter brought it up, I was very surprised when watching a video interview of Dick Winters not long ago. He was asked about the story of Ronald Spiers ("Sparky"), and the German prisoners, and the cigarettes.

Summarizing, Winters said that during the clearance (legal) for some book on the Band of Brothers (might have been Winters' own account), he called up Spiers and asked him whether there would be any trouble over the notorious story. Spiers said nope. Which to Winters amounted to confirmation. Interesting.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 22, 2021 02:13 AM (OTzUX)

509 Zot! The faint scent of ozone lingers.
Posted by: Count de Monet, PureBlood. at December 22, 2021 02:05 AM (4I/2K)

Aha! Raykon got zapped. His "fist" is so distinctive, I can recognize it in one post.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 02:10 AM

I remember him (albeit vaguely) as being a lot ruder than that.

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 02:14 AM (/+bwe)

510 457
Lizzy Warren sent letters to the CEOs of Publix, Albertsons and Kroger accusing them of charging too much.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

None of those supermarket chains are in Massachusetts, her constituency.
But, yeah, biden's inflation is not to blame, it's Krogers fault for charging too much.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 01:23 AM (+OPjz)

Which of those chains have gone woke over the last few years? Maybe Liz sent them a wake up call.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 22, 2021 02:14 AM (ulaXh)

511 Dammit. I was reading the ONT in bed with a cup of tea. I dozed off and spilled my tea. I got some on my ipad keyboard. I quickly wiped it. Will it be ruined? Anyone know?

Posted by: AnnaS at December 22, 2021 02:14 AM (l4l/z)

512
I always thought there was more to spiral ham than it just looking like a large meat bolt.
Posted by: Berserker


When everything looks like a nut or a bolt, you've been wrenching too long.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 02:15 AM (+OPjz)

513 So this whole losing a parent thing...it hasn't happened yet but hospice will get involved tommorrow...holy crap it hurts already

Posted by: a dude in MI at December 22, 2021 01:22 AM (+I6Y/)

yeah, its not easy. I went through it with my mom in 2011. She sent an unmistakable message the night she died though which pretty much showed me they are still with us. Knowing that really took the edge off of things.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 22, 2021 02:15 AM (VwHCD)

514 AOP, love that - "fist". You're like a traffic analysis guy in WWII ID'ing specific communicators in enemy forces based on their signaling. Pretty amazing stuff, that was.

But I know what you mean. There's often a distinctive feel, style, cadence to comments.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 22, 2021 02:15 AM (OTzUX)

515 Yep. And it took a while, especially when said lights were on the tree LOL
Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 02:11 AM (dB4Iz)

You know, with modern digital multimeters we have now, you could make a capacitive voltage probe that could simply pass close to the wires leading in and out of each bulb in the string. Good bulbs would have zero voltage across them, and the dead bulb would have 120 volts across it. But LED lamps have made the incandescent strings pretty much obsolete.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 02:16 AM (P3gRi)

516
I got some on my ipad keyboard. I quickly wiped it. Will it be ruined? Anyone know?
Posted by: AnnaS


Probably not, but I'd leave it upside down for the night. Really.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 02:16 AM (+OPjz)

517 When everything looks like a nut or a bolt, you've been wrenching too long.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 02:15 AM (+OPjz)

Yeah, probably true. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 22, 2021 02:16 AM (VwHCD)

518 AOP. Gawd forbid I should ever be a troll. I'd fail in a heartbeat. I don't think I have it in my to type as STOOPID as a raykon?

It'd be about as convincing as you trolling a Studebaker forum, right?

..um, right? talk to us AOP, talk to us!

/snrk

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 02:17 AM (QzJWU)

519
Which of those chains have gone woke over the last few years? Maybe Liz sent them a wake up call.
Posted by: Eric Schmidt


Like how she does with banks when she wants them to send her $$ contributions?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 02:17 AM (+OPjz)

520 I remember him (albeit vaguely) as being a lot ruder than that.
Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 02:14 AM (/+bwe)

HIs M.O. is to start off with very innocuous comments, non-sequiturs, maybe, but harmless. Then he slips in little digs, and eventually becomes abusive. The "can we agree" line is classic raykon.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 02:19 AM (P3gRi)

521 Berserker, your "ham fairy" rants were hilarious.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 22, 2021 02:09 AM (OTzUX)

I was drinking. lol It was all true though.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 22, 2021 02:19 AM (VwHCD)

522 rhomboid. Berserker was hamming it up.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 02:21 AM (QzJWU)

523 ..um, right? talk to us AOP, talk to us!

/snrk

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 02:17 AM (QzJWU)

Heh. I'm almost convinced that raykon is a bot. He follows an algorithm of some kind.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 02:21 AM (P3gRi)

524 Berserker, your "ham fairy" rants were hilarious.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 22, 2021 02:09 AM (OTzUX)

I was drinking. lol It was all true though.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 22, 2021 02:19 AM (VwHCD)

I like ham.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 02:23 AM (P3gRi)

525 HIs M.O. is to start off with very innocuous comments, non-sequiturs, maybe, but harmless. Then he slips in little digs, and eventually becomes abusive. The "can we agree" line is classic raykon.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 02:19 AM

I didn't bite on that one because I'm already sick of telling people 1) Sol Invictus was created because Christianity was getting popular and 2) the original pagan holiday involving gift-giving and master-servant swapping never went further than December 17 or so, according to the contemporary Roman accounts of the popular holidays prior to Christianity's introduction.

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 02:23 AM (/+bwe)

526 ..Heh. I'm almost convinced that raykon is a bot. He follows an algorithm of some kind. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 02:21 AM (P3gRi)

He is the democrat version of Artificial Intelligence. Artificial, and Not Intelligent.

See: "Kamala Harris" for Proof of Concept.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 02:23 AM (QzJWU)

527 Well, past midnight here. Time for my beauty sleep. Be well, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2021 02:24 AM (P3gRi)

528 Pixy ist, wieder fruh, kommt.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 22, 2021 02:26 AM (KAi1n)

529 night, AOP!

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 02:28 AM (/+bwe)

530 I'm gonna get some sleep now. Might not be beauty sleep, but then, I don't have the years left to entertain the necessary coma to accommodate such.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 22, 2021 02:29 AM (QzJWU)

531 Somme video is neat to watch, have to try and remember it's there

Posted by: Skip at December 22, 2021 02:32 AM (2JoB8)

532 Ok the story about the ham fairy has a deeper back story. The wife is 25% Italian, but the rest is Hungarian, Czech, Slovak, and some other stuff. Her grandfather was 100% Italian, her mom 50%. In all that there is never...any...fucking...italian food at the family gathering on that side, and on the slim chance there is its like a fucking martian cooked it. Her side is ham, stuffed cabbage, kielbasa, and bunch of other shit that I have labeled.... Com-Bloc cooking. Oh they sit around the table talking about the wonders of the fucking "kobas" that one of them brought to the miserable tasteless gathering. One time it was pickles, fucking pickles. How about some god damn meatballs, or lasagna , or something italian. Enough with the fucking russian prison cuisine, and stop with the frigging ham deliveries. Next time there better be a fucking pizza with that ham or I'm shooting through the door.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 22, 2021 02:36 AM (VwHCD)

533 How about some god damn meatballs, or lasagna , or something italian. Enough with the fucking russian prison cuisine, and stop with the frigging ham deliveries. Next time there better be a fucking pizza with that ham or I'm shooting through the door.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 22, 2021 02:36 AM

LOL

My family is only a little Italian, despite our name. But we have lasagna for Christmas Eve. Ham is for Easter.

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 02:39 AM (/+bwe)

534 ace-like poetry there, Berserker.

Yeah I'd be a bit dissatisfied if a family of largely Italian in-laws didn't deliver on the cuisine side. I've only been on the margins of such things, and the eating was fantastic.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 22, 2021 02:41 AM (OTzUX)

535 Thanksgiving, again not really done this year, has long featured an in-law of a family member who brings his homemade pasta lasagna (NY Italian roots) - only times I've "saved room" on the plate for something else, as I love the traditional T-giving classics. His family stories are also hilarious.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 22, 2021 02:42 AM (OTzUX)

536 Question for anyone still awake:

I bought a ribroast for last Christmas, about 5 or 6 pounds. Everybody cancelled due to the Coof, so I froze it and forgot about it.

Think it'll still be good, if I thaw it for this year?

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 02:50 AM (dB4Iz)

537 ace-like poetry there, Berserker.

Yeah I'd be a bit dissatisfied if a family of largely Italian in-laws didn't deliver on the cuisine side. I've only been on the margins of such things, and the eating was fantastic.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 22, 2021 02:41 AM (OTzUX)

I'm 100% italian, I grew up with cooks that would make an old boot taste good. My side of the family had epic diners. I didn't actually eat everything they made though. No fish, no eggplant, no weird italian cold cuts, no veal parmigiana, etc. My grandmother's christmas eve diner was frigging epic. Its my FIL who is the culprit, HIS side are the gross offenders. It killed my MIL's ability to cook italian, because if his side is coming its com-bloc cooking. You know how my MIL makes meatballs? She rolls them raw and tosses them into the sauce to cook. She is lucky my grandmother don't rise from the grave and beat her with a shovel. She forgot how to cook italian, so now we got the never ending ham parade.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 22, 2021 02:51 AM (VwHCD)

538 I bought a ribroast for last Christmas, about 5 or 6 pounds. Everybody cancelled due to the Coof, so I froze it and forgot about it.

Think it'll still be good, if I thaw it for this year?
Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 02:50 AM

Sure, as long as it was wrapped and didn't get thawed. If it seems a bit dry on the edges, you can trim it and/or soak it in a bath of wine.

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 02:53 AM (/+bwe)

539 Heck, I should just unwrap it and have a look right?

If it looks ok then thaw it anyway, give it the 'sniff test' and go from there

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 02:53 AM (dB4Iz)

540
It all depends on how cold your freezer gets and if it maintains a consistent below 0 temperature.

0 degrees is the maximum temperature suitable for properly freezing food. -10 is the perfect temp, in my opinion. Most refrigerators today barely hold the 0 degree temp. They suck. And they go through automatic defrosting cycles often. That's why frozen food gets "frosty" after a couple of weeks -- it got too warm in the freezer.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2021 02:54 AM (+OPjz)

541 Thanks, NaughtyPine! Yes, it was wrapped at the butcher counter where I bought it. Maybe not the tightest wrap-job.

Hmmm. It won't get any better by staying frozen...

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 02:56 AM (dB4Iz)

542 Soothsayer: yes, it's in a frost-free freezer. Not the every-day kitchen one that's opened all the time though.

Ugh. I hate wasting food.

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 02:59 AM (dB4Iz)

543 Gosh, it's 3 am here. I'd better go to bed or I'll sleep the day away! Good night, 'rons!

Posted by: NaughtyPine - quarantined for Christmas at December 22, 2021 03:07 AM (/+bwe)

544 'Night, NaughtyPine. Blessings!

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 03:08 AM (dB4Iz)

545 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at December 22, 2021 03:10 AM (PfCJx)

546 Thanks for the nood, m.

I didn't want to trash up Pixy's thread today. For a change, LOL

Posted by: JQ at December 22, 2021 03:12 AM (dB4Iz)

547 I just can't believe that school put such a blatantly segregated message for children to see. It reminds me of this old Aesop's fables- Be careful what you wish for, lest it come true! The origin of this saying is Aesop's Fables, the world's best known collection of morality tales (circa 260 BC).

Posted by: sidney at December 22, 2021 08:16 AM (LJJah)

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