The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

Niche economies within the larger context of the world economy (heavy industry and other energy-intensive categories) are certainly possible. Singapore and Israel come to mind, and of course within countries there are areas that are focused on things other than industry, manufacturing, and other traditional drivers of growth and wealth.

But somebody has to make the steel and mine the materials and build the huge machines that are the basis of economic vitality, and those things take energy...oceans of it. So the idea that we can continue to innovate and grow and become wealthier as a planet while simultaneously restricting the use of energy to green versions of it is silly. Sure, on a small scale we can burn hydrogen or unicorn flatus and solar and wind and geothermal, but where are we going to get the solar energy to drive steel manufacturing on cloudy days, or run the air conditioning in critical manufacturing plants when there is no wind?

I could go on and on, but the point is clear. Petroleum is incredibly energy dense, has an existing infrastructure that works extremely well (when not used as a political tool), and is by far the most efficient energy source we have. Even nuclear power is more expensive (thank you environmentalists!).

What Comes After GE's 129 Years of Greenhouse Gas: Can a company synonymous with the industrial past bring its polluting customers into the greener future?

GE’s ability to move beyond its enormous legacy of greenhouse gas will likely define its future. Under pressure from climate activists and shareholders, in July it announced an aspiration to zero out CO₂ within three decades. Critically, its latest climate goal includes eliminating emissions created by the use of its products. Reaching net-zero will take more than putting some solar panels on its factories and offices. For GE to fulfill its promise, it must also prompt customers who form the backbone of today’s fossil fuel economy to ditch carbon. Success could put a company synonymous with the heyday of American manufacturing at the center of a new, cleaner industrial era.

What exactly is a cleaner industrial era? That sounds suspiciously like outsourcing our energy intensive industrial base to places that don't give a rat's ass about carbon. But we tried that with China, and it didn't really work out so well.

I want to see General Electric's bid for the next nuclear power plant being built (if there is a God). I sure hope it specifies that the thousands of tons of steel required will be made using green energy, and the manufacture of the reaction vessels and such will be done only with green technology.

The reality is that absent a huge push for nuclear power, there is no alternative to oil. Well; that's not exactly true. There is an awful alternative to oil -- green energy -- that will retard economic growth, slow innovation, condemn many millions of people to poverty, and raise the cost of literally everything.

But that is a price the elites are willing for you to pay.

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 ITS FUNNY BECAUSE IM FIRST!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLESSBERGER at November 09, 2021 11:00 AM (kTF2Z)

2 I NOODED!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLESSBERGER at November 09, 2021 11:01 AM (kTF2Z)

3 I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 11:01 AM (LvTSG)

4 Windmills forever!! And trains! And trains powered by windmills!!

Posted by: brak at November 09, 2021 11:02 AM (FAP8n)

5 Alan G. Was a prophet.

Posted by: Max Power at November 09, 2021 11:02 AM (QCc6B)

6 So, if you cut back on carbon dioxide, what the hell am I supposed to breathe?

Posted by: A Tree at November 09, 2021 11:03 AM (QS8Md)

7 "There is an awful alternative to oil -- green energy -- that will retard economic growth, slow innovation, condemn many millions of people to poverty, and raise the cost of literally everything.

But that is a price the elites are willing for you to pay."

Yeppers. Feature, not bug.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 09, 2021 11:03 AM (dfRN6)

8 GE can french kiss my hairy ass. I don't do business with them if I can avoid it. Them, Walmart, Amazon, Chick-fil-et, or any other outfit I know supports the totalitarian left.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 11:04 AM (o2MD2)

9 but where are we going to get the solar energy to drive steel manufacturing on cloudy days, or run the air conditioning in critical manufacturing plants when there is no wind?

Where do you get it to power ONE 72 story skyscraper? They battery room would be immense. The off-site solar panel farm would be immense, along with the line loss getting the juice back to the building.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:04 AM (RR8iF)

10 I remember articles in Reader's Digest in the early and mid-'60s telling us that nuclear power was the coming thing, and that reactors could not explode like atom bombs. Of course RD was relentlessly optimistic about a lot of things.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:04 AM (txdEq)

11 The Energy Triad for Prosperity: Nuclear, Oil, and Coal.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:04 AM (B8kNI)

12 Our Betters will continue living in their multiple mansions with their wrap around redwood decks and their service staff.

We will need to live in multi unit apartments with rolling blackouts and eat bugs.

For Mother Earth.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 09, 2021 11:05 AM (kfLvq)

13 Rubber bands...while the wind turbines are generating power...have them twist rubber bands to store energy for when the wind's not blowing.

Posted by: BignJames at November 09, 2021 11:05 AM (AwYPR)

14 "The Energy Triad for Prosperity: Nuclear, Oil, and Coal."

You forgot methane from cow farts.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 09, 2021 11:05 AM (Ectld)

15 Idiocracy is our destiny.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:05 AM (2DOZq)

16

Fossil fuel is life itself. It came from it and, when used properly, sustains and nourishes it.

This is a truth.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2021 11:05 AM (s2VJv)

17 When they reduce us to a couple hundred million surface dwelling morlocks, they will come out of there underground habitrail settlements in their flying cars, to harvest the livestock.
They saved the flying cars for themselves.

Posted by: Eloi and morlocks at November 09, 2021 11:05 AM (bRhZG)

18 Commenting present and accounted for

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 09, 2021 11:06 AM (dzvKK)

19 Biden tapping the strategic oil reserves just happens to coincide with China's aggression in the south Pacific What could possible go wrong?

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 09, 2021 11:06 AM (2xGy+)

20 home early

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at November 09, 2021 11:06 AM (b+v9B)

21 Alan G. Was a prophet.
Posted by: Max Power at November 09, 2021 11:02 AM (QCc6B)

So whatever happened to him?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 09, 2021 11:06 AM (ZSK0i)

22 Shipping is the Achilles heel of the green energy fantasy. No way those container ships are ever going electric.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2021 11:06 AM (UuD2k)

23 Europe used to a thriving nuclear energy system. Now they are going to freeze this winter.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:06 AM (2DOZq)

24 And Agenda 21, never forget that as impetus for all of this.

The self anointed Elites will have electric lights while everyone else will have to burn candles again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:06 AM (B8kNI)

25 GE is a sad reflection of what it once was. It got killed by Obama's first term and never really recovered.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 09, 2021 11:06 AM (LQjWA)

26 But that is a price the elites are willing for you to pay.

Because they care.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 09, 2021 11:07 AM (AiZBA)

27 I remember articles in Reader's Digest in the early and mid-'60s telling us that nuclear power was the coming thing, and that reactors could not explode like atom bombs. Of course RD was relentlessly optimistic about a lot of things.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Thorium Salt reactors. RD was correct.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:07 AM (RR8iF)

28 Windmills forever!! And trains! And trains powered by windmills!!
Posted by: brak

It makes perfect sense! While the train is moving, the windmill will be turning. Duh!!

Just like placing an electric fan in a sailboat pointed towards the sail.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021 11:07 AM (mD/uy)

29 Where do you get it to power ONE 72 story skyscraper? They battery room would be immense. The off-site solar panel farm would be immense, along with the line loss getting the juice back to the building. Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:04 AM (RR8iF)

I figured once after a Chris Hayes rant on solar energy that the size of the solar panels it took to power Chris Hayes's studio -- not the network or administrative offices, just the studio itself -- was about the size of a football field.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 09, 2021 11:07 AM (BMmaB)

30 Alan G. Was a prophet.
Posted by: Max Power at November 09, 2021 11:02 AM (QCc6B)

So whatever happened to him?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent,

Real life/work got in the way.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM (RR8iF)

31 Fossil fuel is life itself.
==
I don't like the term fossil fuel. Its derogatory and not accurate.

I prefer the term concentrated sunlight.

Posted by: Marketing at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM (mTQ02)

32 Of course RD was relentlessly optimistic about a lot of things.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:04 AM (txdEq)

Not a bad thing, being relentlessly optimistic. Sure as shit beats what's in the press today.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM (BgMrQ)

33 GE already announced its splitting into three companies. There won't be a GE this time next year.

Posted by: Match Checksout at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM (dYe5S)

34 Container ships with sails.

Just expect smaller ships and cargoes. But good news Green Energy will finally kill the affordable car industry.

*thud*

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM (B8kNI)

35 16

Fossil fuel is life itself. It came from it and, when used properly, sustains and nourishes it.

This is a truth.
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There is some debate that petroleum is the product of deep earth process. Coal seems to be fossil though.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM (LQjWA)

36 "Our Betters will continue living in their multiple mansions with their wrap around redwood decks and their service staff."

You can do anything you set your mind to when you have vision, determination, and an endless supply of unskilled labor.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM (Ectld)

37 Put windmills inside wind tunnels! Duh.

Posted by: dantesed at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM (88xKn)

38 The reality is that absent a huge push for nuclear power, there is no alternative to oil. Well; that's not exactly true. There is an awful alternative to oil -- green energy -- that will retard economic growth, slow innovation, condemn many millions of people to poverty, and raise the cost of literally everything.

1. Kill 85% of the human population.
2. Enslave most of the rest.
3. Luxury will be different for the elites than it is now but they won't have to worry about pesky people rising above their station.

Sure, it won't work - at least not for long - but the elites aren't as bright as they tell each other.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM (EjmvJ)

39 Leftists don't want you to have energy, and you can go get screwed if you don't like it.

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM (dzvKK)

40 33 GE already announced its splitting into three companies. There won't be a GE this time next year.
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This after they did a reverse split this year? WTF?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 09, 2021 11:09 AM (LQjWA)

41 Well, by 2024 there won't be a GE anymore, but its going away.

Posted by: Match Checksout at November 09, 2021 11:09 AM (dYe5S)

42

US industrial giant General Electric, once the world's largest company by market size, is getting a lot smaller. The conglomerate will split into three separate businesses focused on healthcare, power, and aviation, the company announced today

https://tinyurl.com/zvmxa23m

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2021 11:09 AM (63Dwl)

43 Biden tapping the strategic oil reserves just happens to coincide with China's aggression in the south Pacific What could possible go wrong?
Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 09, 2021 11:06 AM (2xGy+)

With our vast untapped oil and natural gas supply we should be doubling our Strategic energy reserves. The left are psychopaths.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:09 AM (2DOZq)

44 It makes perfect sense! While the train is moving, the windmill will be turning. Duh!!

Just like placing an electric fan in a sailboat pointed towards the sail.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!
Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021 11:07 AM (mD/uy)
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Wasn't that the plot of the movie Snowpiercer? A self-propelled train circling the globe forever...Makes even less sense now.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2021 11:09 AM (YIVH2)

45 It's becoming increasingly clear the only means of stopping the left will be physical intervention.

I've long proposed a political solution to this issue. Finally, my patience has run out. I see nothing here except increasing escalation with no regard for consequences. At this rate, there will be no viable country in 3 more years.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 09, 2021 11:10 AM (KATBx)

46 To renew the nuclear fears, some streaming service is going to run a show about the nuclear meltdown that happened in California in the 1950s

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:10 AM (B8kNI)

47 They want us dead.
Freezing in the dark is a fine method.

Posted by: DaveA at November 09, 2021 11:10 AM (FhXTo)

48 Europe used to a thriving nuclear energy system. Now they are going to freeze this winter.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:06 AM (2DOZq)

And I am going to laugh (although we may not be far behind).

One thing...Eastern Europe is far smarter about this stuff.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2021 11:10 AM (Q9lwr)

49 I remember articles in Reader's Digest in the early and mid-'60s telling us that nuclear power was the coming thing, and that reactors could not explode like atom bombs. Of course RD was relentlessly optimistic about a lot of things.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:04 AM (txdEq)

In their defense, they were correct about the explode-y thing.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at November 09, 2021 11:10 AM (EjmvJ)

50 My wife works with a lot of fruitcakes - neon green and red-haired whackos who are in to piercings and pollyamory. But, unlike me, my wife loves people for who they are and she overlooks their foibles (lucky for me).

So, she invites a bunch over for a party. They keep asking me, "Where do I put my recycling?" I respond by pointing to the kitchen trash can and saying, "Right there." This upset a couple of the fruitcakes who made mildly snarky comments about it.

A few weeks later, she invites them again for a party. I grab the trash can from the garage (an old kitchen unit), and I put masking tape on the front and ask my wife to write "Recycling" on the tape.

I actually had a couple ding dongs thank me for it at the next party. I smiled at them, and after the party I put it all in the same trash bin for street pickup, just like I normally would.

It's all about feel-good virtue signaling for these retards.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 09, 2021 11:10 AM (MeXn+)

51
Oil and gas have the greatest energy density outside of nuclear. Find an alternative that approaches that and then we'll talk.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (/U27+)

52 I want to find the original blowhard who declared CO2 a polluting emission and present him with an engraved Insom tire iron. Decades of innovation making great progress in reducing soot and noxious fumes from industry so the enviro-commies switch to declaring CO2 a pollutant to hobble our industry and move the world towards their goal of near universal misery with just a few party insiders living the high life.

Posted by: PaleRider, hysteria denier at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (3cGpq)

53 "A self-propelled train circling the globe forever...Makes even less sense now."

Speaking of circling the globe forever, watched a documentary where people were putting their DNA in a satellite so the aliens could find it long after we were gone. Turns out the satellite will only outlast us for three years before burning up on re-entry.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (Ectld)

54 GE already announced its splitting into three companies. There won't be a GE this time next year.
=====

There won't be much of anything this time next year.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (IytoW)

55 As long as there are unicorns, we'll be fine.

Dammit!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (4oclu)

56 None of this is feasible in the real world. Net zero is a pipe dream. Our betters are just too frickin stoopid to realize on their own (particularly the politicians), and their yes men and toadies and ESG handcuffed corporate stooges either don't know themselves or are just going along to get along.

We are fortunate in that Europe is out in front enough for the failures to start happening in real time. Similarly, the early adopters of those electric Ford F150s will see how cool they are when they hook up a RV trailer or boat and try to head across 3-4 states for a vacation and they have to charge up 30 minutes at a time every 150 miles or so.

Biden does have a commitment to "modular nuclear reactors" in his energy policy. I'm hoping those are thorium reactors. Maybe some good will come of that but the greens will through the typical hissy fit if it starts to become a thing.

Posted by: Keith - Pinochet/Bell Helicopter 202447 at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (oaI78)

57 The left are psychopaths.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:09 AM (2DOZq)

In every situation, doing the exact opposite of what works and then declaring victory.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (4I/2K)

58 Went to eat at an Asian fusion restaurant. They had plenty of power.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (w9Wax)

59 Our Betters will continue living in their multiple mansions with their wrap around redwood decks and their service staff.

We will need to live in multi unit apartments with rolling blackouts and eat bugs.

For Mother Earth.
and to make our congenitally depraved elites feel better about themselves by comparison, but mostly just to make our congenitally depraved elites feel better about themselves.

Posted by: why is their self esteem issue our problem? at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (0Pu0e)

60 33 GE already announced its splitting into three companies. There won't be a GE this time next year.
Posted by: Match Checksout at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM (dYe5S)

That's probably a great thing for shareholders. Stock spinoffs generally unlock hidden value.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (EU//e)

61 Real life/work got in the way.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM (RR8iF)

True too often...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 09, 2021 11:12 AM (ZSK0i)

62
There is an explosion of fossil fuels everywhere I go!

-Joe Biden

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2021 11:12 AM (V7qBU)

63 I remember articles in Reader's Digest in the early and mid-'60s telling us that nuclear power was the coming thing, and that reactors could not explode like atom bombs. Of course RD was relentlessly optimistic about a lot of things.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
*
Thorium Salt reactors. RD was correct.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021

***
They were reprinting articles from other magazines. "An Article a Day of Enduring Interest," so since they were monthly there must have been about 30 items in a typical RD back then. "I Am Joe's Pancreas," for instance, and "Bug Thy Neighbor," about the beginnings of electronic eavesdropping.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:12 AM (txdEq)

64 Luxury will be different for the elites than it is now but they won't have to worry about pesky people rising above their station.

Sure, it won't work - at least not for long - but the elites aren't as bright as they tell each other.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic,

French Revolution on line one sir. Line one.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:12 AM (RR8iF)

65 A few weeks later, she invites them again for a party. I grab the trash can from the garage (an old kitchen unit), and I put masking tape on the front and ask my wife to write "Recycling" on the tape.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus

You are going to hell.

If you beat me there, please save me a spot.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021 11:12 AM (mD/uy)

66 The fundamental problem with green energy is storage.

Sun doesn't shine at night; wind doesn't blow effectively it's hot or cold, only when it's in-between. There's just no load demand when green energy is capable of delivery.

Molten salts showed some promise in solar furnace projects, but they can't keep it molten through the night.

Posted by: Lrrr at November 09, 2021 11:12 AM (jIL4c)

67 Solar power has about a 26 percent capacity factor at best, because the sun is on the other side of the earth half of the day and shines at an angle to the panels almost all the rest of the day. You can engineer panels so they follow the sun somewhat like a sunflower, but of course that raises the price and takes power to do. It is impossible to power a modern economy on solar without storage.

The best form of storage is hydroelectric. Unfortunately, there are not a huge number of places left in the US to put dams, and the farther away from the demand that the storage is placed, the greater the line losses.

The bottom line is that above a relatively low level of total energy, it becomes more and more expensive and less and less practical to increase the use of renewables. Any honest engineer knows this. However, that's where the money is, so we can expect to see billions upon billions continue to be diverted to unproductive capital expenditures.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 09, 2021 11:13 AM (BMmaB)

68 That's probably a great thing for shareholders. Stock spinoffs generally unlock hidden value.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (EU//e)

Unless they stay under a parent corporation, they will lose a lot of clout they have with the Fed Gov. You know, the clout they use to get laws passed so they don't pay any taxes and get gov contracts?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 09, 2021 11:13 AM (oHd/0)

69 Israel's economy is a house of cards sustained by a substantial US contribution...

Posted by: Michael Christian at November 09, 2021 11:13 AM (/LbTY)

70 Refute DenBeste or
Face the Beaver!

Posted by: DaveA at November 09, 2021 11:13 AM (FhXTo)

71 Luxury will be different for the elites than it is now but they won't have to worry about pesky people rising above their station.

Sure, it won't work - at least not for long - but the elites aren't as bright as they tell each other.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic,

French Revolution on line one sir. Line one.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:12 AM (RR8iF)

I know a little French: Fuck Joe Biden, pardon my French.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Dune 2021 review at November 09, 2021 11:13 AM (XvPQV)

72 "Biden does have a commitment to "modular nuclear reactors" in his energy policy. I'm hoping those are thorium reactors. "

Modular nuclear reactors are the Westinghouse AP 1000s.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 09, 2021 11:13 AM (Ectld)

73 51
Oil and gas have the greatest energy density outside of nuclear. Find an alternative that approaches that and then we'll talk.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (/U27+)

It's not just density. The covalent bonds of hydrocarbon molecules are some of the most accessible energy found in nature.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2021 11:13 AM (UuD2k)

74 The enviromelons are pathetic little weak minded pissants. They want their utopia but they cannot understand basic math and science. They demand that we pay attention to their fever dreams and agree with their delusions. To them I say....

Go fuck yourself with a coconut and don't forget to light it on fire first.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 09, 2021 11:13 AM (Vxu+H)

75 Does this mean prices on petroleum jelly will go up?

Posted by: Frank Luntz at November 09, 2021 11:13 AM (2xGy+)

76 GE already announced its splitting into three companies. There won't be a GE this time next year

1st company will be named G.
2nd company will be named E.
3rd company will be named FJB.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2021 11:13 AM (w9Wax)

77
GE is a sad reflection of what it once was.

GE can fooking die a long, lingering and expensive death for all I care. Killing incandescent light bulbs in favor of the toxic curlicue fluorescent abominations when LED models were only three years down the pike was as blatant a government fiat-imposed gift as could be imagined.

Bite me, Fred Upton.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 09, 2021 11:14 AM (3l5Yq)

78 I had an uncle who worked for GE back in the 60's - late 80's when they did some "restructuring" and took on new technologies beyond their original lightbulbs and household appliances at the time. He lamented how disorganized things were while this was going on. I can't imagine it's any better these days. IMO this is a recipe for failure on GE's part. They're buckling under to political whims, not market changes.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2021 11:14 AM (BFigT)

79 There is an awful alternative to oil -- green energy -- that will retard economic growth, slow innovation, condemn many millions of people to poverty, and raise the cost of literally everything.

You have to hand it to the Chinese Communist Party - they must be laughing their asses off at the baizuo wrecking their economies with renewables, while they happily continue to build coal and natural gas plants.

Oh yeah, we'll start reducing our carbon emissions by 2030! LOL. And BTW, it's racist to criticize us!

Last time I checked, China had enough coal plants under construction to power Germany.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 09, 2021 11:14 AM (I2/tG)

80 There is an explosion of fossil fuels everywhere I go!

-Joe Biden

Joey did another stinky in his pants...

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:14 AM (B8kNI)

81 Pollyamory - the love of parrots?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 09, 2021 11:14 AM (AlkyK)

82
It's all about feel-good virtue signaling for these retards.
==
*nods*

dude, see my nick

Posted by: why is their self esteem issue our problem? at November 09, 2021 11:14 AM (x+caK)

83 @Lrrr, horde mind!

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 09, 2021 11:14 AM (BMmaB)

84 The Erf is making more evil oil and natural gas as we type. The same cannot be said for coal as it was only created during a single period of time due to unique conditions. That said, there is enough reachable coal in this country alone to power us for several hundred years with today's technology.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 09, 2021 11:14 AM (KTaZ8)

85 They want us dead.
Freezing in the dark is a fine method.
Posted by: DaveA at November 09, 2021

***
At college in the early '70s, a bathroom stall graffito read:

"MAY ALL YE ANTI-NUKES FREEZE IN THE DARK"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:15 AM (txdEq)

86 It's not just density. The covalent bonds of hydrocarbon molecules are some of the most accessible energy found in nature.

I'm sitting right here, doncha know!

Posted by: Ionic bonds at November 09, 2021 11:15 AM (w9Wax)

87 Biden does have a commitment to "modular nuclear reactors" in his energy policy. I'm hoping those are thorium reactors. Maybe some good will come of that but the greens will through the typical hissy fit if it starts to become a thing.
Posted by: Keith - Pinochet/Bell Helicopter 202447 at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (oaI7

Someday perhaps, but the current designs are still uranium based. NuScale just got the first SMR approval ever from the NRC in 2020...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 09, 2021 11:15 AM (ZSK0i)

88 Refute DenBeste or
Face the Beaver!
Posted by: DaveA

Boy I miss that guy.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021 11:15 AM (mD/uy)

89 GE is the genesis of the LCC/Ship it Overseas mantra put forth in business school today.

May they rot in hell.

Posted by: Sgt Hulka at November 09, 2021 11:15 AM (ne/OJ)

90 Fritos will burn like a candle.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 09, 2021 11:15 AM (2xGy+)

91 Pollyamory - the love of parrots?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 09, 2021

***
Polly-atchy, the love of opera

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:15 AM (txdEq)

92 27 I remember articles in Reader's Digest in the early and mid-'60s telling us that nuclear power was the coming thing, and that reactors could not explode like atom bombs. Of course RD was relentlessly optimistic about a lot of things.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Thorium Salt reactors. RD was correct.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:07 AM (RR8iF)

The Chinese are building a Thorium-based reactor that will use molten sodium salt as the coolant. Saw an article on it a week or two ago.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:16 AM (ynpvh)

93
Our Betters will continue living in their multiple mansions with their wrap around redwood decks and their service staff.

We will need to live in multi unit apartments with rolling blackouts and eat bugs.

Sounds like one of many dystopian stories that have been written.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2021 11:16 AM (63Dwl)

94 Oh joy. Someone got caught filming the jurors in the Rittenhouse case. Deputy caught them and forced them to delete the video. Naturally, there are people yelling at how this is a violation of the First Amendment and acting clueless about why taking video like that is a bad thing.

"Fuck you. War." No answer follows.

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1458092224542031877

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2021 11:16 AM (4olE8)

95 Niche industries are destined to be eliminated. Hell, my grandfather always used to say, "If you have a niche, scratch it!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:16 AM (m45I2)

96 >>>Well, by 2024 there won't be a GE anymore, but its going away.

GE energy will still be out there, and if they travel this road, getting ready to go bankrupt.

Posted by: mikethemoose at November 09, 2021 11:16 AM (T/vhV)

97 They want us dead.
Freezing in the dark is a fine method.
Posted by: DaveA

Not gonna happen. You know how many leftists there are to burn to stay warm?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:17 AM (RR8iF)

98 6 So, if you cut back on carbon dioxide, what the hell am I supposed to breathe?

Posted by: A Tree at November 09, 2021 11:03 AM (QS8Md)

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"We're planning to pay SpaceX to relocate all plants on Earth to Venus where CO2 is in abundance! If it saves just one tree, comrade ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 09, 2021 11:17 AM (cUUIs)

99 Israel's economy is a house of cards sustained by a substantial US contribution...
Posted by: Michael Christian at November 09, 2021 11:13 AM (/LbTY)

Odd since it's based on the American Leftist model.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:17 AM (2DOZq)

100 It is impossible to power a modern economy on solar without storage.
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Even with storage, it isn't possible in Cleveland. Cause there's no Fcukin sun for literally 4 months of the year.

Posted by: Of course that's not exactly a modern economy at November 09, 2021 11:17 AM (cO3rm)

101 The French have had "modular' nuclear reactors, ie one standard size reactor of 25MW, for decades. They just build how many are needed, saves boatloads of money on design costs.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:18 AM (B8kNI)

102 Israel's economy is a house of cards sustained by a substantial US contribution...

Yep, Israel gets about $3.8 billion in US aid every year, and the Israeli GNP is $390 billion.

Obviously Israel's economy would collapse without the US aid. /s

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 09, 2021 11:18 AM (I2/tG)

103 Not gonna happen. You know how many leftists there are to burn to stay warm?
Posted by: rickb223

Trigglypuff and her Cistern could fuel a city of 50,000 for a decade or two.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021 11:18 AM (mD/uy)

104 Capital wife deals with the current GE aviation division frequently. They are one of the biggest PIA suppliers she deals with.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 09, 2021 11:18 AM (2xGy+)

105 Fritos will burn like a candle.
Posted by: Capital Eff

So do liberals.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:18 AM (RR8iF)

106 *calls in artillery strike on grid coordinates (/LbTY) *

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:19 AM (B8kNI)

107 95 Niche industries are destined to be eliminated. Hell, my grandfather always used to say, "If you have a niche, ~~scratch~~ scrap it!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:16 AM (m45I2)

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Do I dare presume to edit the master? It is time for me to leave ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 09, 2021 11:19 AM (cUUIs)

108 25MW is pretty small. That's a good bit smaller than our sub reactors.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2021 11:19 AM (UuD2k)

109 >>>Not gonna happen. You know how many leftists there are to burn to stay warm?
Posted by: rickb223

The blue hair dye lights them up pretty quickly.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2021 11:19 AM (VWp7G)

110 Coal is an alternative to oil for electricity production, and we have 300 years of coal (whatever that means, but we have a lot). imo part of the reason they had to condemn coal was because it made our electricity cheap .. they HATE that.

IF they cut of gas pipelines and people freeze ... maybe it will sink some of the Green Love Boats, and clean coal will make a revival. Along with oil and gas, and nuclear. The main front in the war against America is their war against our cheap energy.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 09, 2021 11:19 AM (Cus5s)

111 Not gonna happen. You know how many leftists there are to burn to stay warm?
Posted by: rickb223

Dibs on M. Moore.

The grease fire would be VERY hot.

Posted by: Joe Mama at November 09, 2021 11:19 AM (WmGrA)

112 I'm learning that composting necessarily creates heat. So maybe a large enough doghouse type structure covered in composting material could keep one reasonably warm next winter.

That or living in underground limestone caves where the temps stay at 55 degrees.

Progress!

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at November 09, 2021 11:19 AM (4I/2K)

113 Not gonna happen. You know how many leftists there are to burn to stay warm?
Posted by: rickb223

Trigglypuff and her Cistern could fuel a city of 50,000 for a decade or two.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021

***
Trigglypuff has a cistern? Ooh, cold well water!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:19 AM (txdEq)

114 Well, by 2024 there won't be a GE anymore, but its going away.

GE energy will still be out there, and if they travel this road, getting ready to go bankrupt.
Posted by: mikethemoose at November 09, 2021 11:16 AM (T/vhV)

GE will get every bailout they ask for.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Dune 2021 review at November 09, 2021 11:20 AM (XvPQV)

115 Rubber bands...while the wind turbines are generating power...have them twist rubber bands to store energy for when the wind's not blowing.

Posted by: BignJames at November 09, 2021 11:05 AM

You know, I'm not sure that makes any less sense than batteries, and probably makes more sense than raising heavy weights. I wonder how it compares to compressed air.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 09, 2021 11:20 AM (dqP+A)

116 Regarding GE - This is the latest example of "Going broke? Get Woke!"

I know people get it backwards all the time, but if you look at cable television, entertainment (Hollywood, comics, etc), that's the actual formula. Successful companies flush with cash don't suddenly upend their business model in order to destroy themselves.

Floundering companies that have seen the writing on the wall are going broke, so they get Woke as a way to capture "some kind of easily identifiable market". It doesn't matter that the market has no money, no loyalty, and no desire for the product. By appealing to the desires/fears of an easily identifiable group, the hope is some money is better than no money. Plus, Wokeness is government policy, so there could be some sweet money from Uncle Sugar shaking around out there.

GE has been in a downward spiral for at least 20 years. I was installing a production line in one of their plants about 20 years ago, and it was clear the company culture was garbage.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 09, 2021 11:20 AM (MeXn+)

117 Well General Electric has built and sold a tremendous fleet of gas turbines which do everything from generating electricity to driving Navy ships. So it's sort of hard to overcome that legacy--not that I think they should try to do it. Natural gas is the cleanest of the fossil fuels.

But going nuclear? Westinghouse was maybe the fifth or sixth largest and most profitable industrial enterprises in the USA in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Westinghouse then bet the ranch on nuclear--and got bloodied into financial insignificance. General Electric wouild do well to take heed of the Westinghouse debacle.

Posted by: GlendaleGreybeard at November 09, 2021 11:20 AM (cn6vO)

118 Re: the question at the end of the last thread about an anatomic explanation for why splitting a raven's tongue will enable him to talk.

All ravens can talk. Splitting the tongue is not really anatomical, it's motivational.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:20 AM (m45I2)

119 It is impossible to power a modern economy on solar without storage.

It's impossible with current battery technology. I know, shocking, isn't it?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:20 AM (RR8iF)

120 81 Pollyamory - the love of parrots?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 09, 2021 11:14 AM (AlkyK)

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Pollyarmory - War Parrots

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 09, 2021 11:20 AM (CAJOC)

121 Worlds first molten salt-cooled Thorium reactor...
https://tinyurl.com/4cfcxb5k

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:20 AM (ynpvh)

122 110 IF they cut of gas pipelines and people freeze ... maybe it will sink some of the Green Love Boats, and clean coal will make a revival. Along with oil and gas, and nuclear. The main front in the war against America is their war against our cheap energy.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 09, 2021 11:19 AM (Cus5s)

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"Those old people who froze to death deserved to die because they were addicted to oil."
-The Left in about a month

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 11:21 AM (LvTSG)

123 Who runs Barter Town !!!

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:21 AM (2DOZq)

124 The Soviets used some sort of liquid metal coolant in the reactor for the "Alpha" class nuclear submarines. IIRC it was a bitch to "turn off" when needed.

Need to research the ChiCom's Thorium / Salt cooled contraption. Probably meltdown as soon as those clowns throw the switch.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2021 11:21 AM (BFigT)

125
"We're planning to pay SpaceX to relocate all plants on Earth to Venus where CO2 is in abundance! If it saves just one tree, comrade ..."
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon!

Bruce Dern will be on one of those ships.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2021 11:21 AM (63Dwl)

126 The only Mike Christian I know was a US Naval Aviator shot down over North Vietnam and a became a POW. He was mercilessly beaten by the camp guards for daring to make a US flag while in captivity. When Jimmy Carter granted pardons to all the draft dodgers, Cmdr Christian resigned his commission. He died a few years later.

You sir are no Mike Christian, now kindly go play sexual games with Kurt's octopus.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:22 AM (B8kNI)

127 Even with storage, it isn't possible in Cleveland.

It costs about a billion dollars to provide four-hour battery backup to 1,000 MW (roughly enough to power Portland). This is the new Federal standard for adequate battery backup.

Four hours is enough time to back up a solar installation, right?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 09, 2021 11:22 AM (I2/tG)

128 Name the song and line from the Bon Jovi song Huber was thinking of when Kyle defended himself.

*I now denounce myself.*

Posted by: WiNO at November 09, 2021 11:22 AM (EpDzw)

129 >>>It's impossible with current battery technology. I know, shocking, isn't it?
Posted by: rickb223

But there are all those charging units at the NJ rest stops... that are always empty.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2021 11:22 AM (VWp7G)

130 Well General Electric has built and sold a tremendous fleet of gas turbines which do everything from generating electricity to driving Navy ships.

Posted by: GlendaleGreybeard

True - but the latest Arleigh Burke class DDGs uses Rolls Royce iirc.

Just saying.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021 11:22 AM (mD/uy)

131 hobble our industry and move the world towards their goal of near universal misery with just a few party insiders living the high life.
Posted by: PaleRider
Yup. They do not want clean industry, they want to destroy industry.

Posted by: MikeM at November 09, 2021 11:22 AM (q3OJ4)

132 Burning liberals creates an unacceptable amount of noxious gases, though.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (KATBx)

133 Refute DenBeste or
Face the Beaver!
Posted by: DaveA

Boy I miss that guy.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021 11:15 AM (mD/uy)

His is a sad story, I miss him too....even if he basically only posted about anime after a while.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Dune 2021 review at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (XvPQV)

134 The way to introduce green energy to those that want it most is to shut down all electricity to NYC and see what happens.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (LQjWA)

135 12 Our Betters will continue living in their multiple mansions with their wrap around redwood decks and their service staff.

We will need to live in ~~multi unit apartments with rolling blackouts~~ caves and eat bugs.

For Mother Earth.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 09, 2021 11:05 AM (kfLvq)

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Fixed per "Return of The Primitive: The Anti-Industrial Revolution" (1971) by Ayn Rand.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (cUUIs)

136 Rubber bands...while the wind turbines are generating power...have them twist rubber bands to store energy for when the wind's not blowing.

******

Now THAT's an energy strategy with real potential...

(wait for it...)

Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (m45I2)

137 If you beat me there, please save me a spot.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021 11:12 AM (mD/uy)
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Heating costs are so low there. Let me tell you. The lowest.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (MeXn+)

138 "Those old people who froze to death deserved to die because they were addicted to oil."
-The Left in about a month
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What happened to all the trees?
Gov Whitmer in about a month.

Posted by: Unintended consequences at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (QS8Md)

139
GE is a sad reflection of what it once was.

__________

The bomb exploded under Immelt, but Jack Welch lit the fuse.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (/U27+)

140 121 Worlds first molten salt-cooled Thorium reactor...
https://tinyurl.com/4cfcxb5k
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:20 AM (ynpvh)

That's not the first waterless reactor. There have been several sodium reactors. The Navy even built a sub with one in the 1950's, I think.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (UuD2k)

141 DoD is moving smartly (for DoD) towards small, portable nuclear reactors for deployment in places with unreliable power grids, which is most of the world. For some reason, this article thinks Biden should get credit.

https://tinyurl.com/ej6yenhm

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:24 AM (ZsR3z)

142 fossil fuel works for coal, as we know where it comes from. Oil, on the other hand is a mystery.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 11:24 AM (o2MD2)

143 neon green and red-haired whackos who are in to piercings and pollyamory.

I'm totally into polyarmory. Wait, what? Oh. Never mind.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 09, 2021 11:24 AM (nfrXX)

144 81 Pollyamory - the love of parrots?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 09, 2021 11:14 AM (AlkyK)
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Have you ever met someone who has a bird for a pet? A bigger fruitcake you will never meet.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 09, 2021 11:24 AM (MeXn+)

145 The bomb exploded under Immelt, but Jack Welch lit the fuse.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (/U27+)

And he was hailed as much as Fauci is today.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:24 AM (2DOZq)

146 Under pressure from climate activists and shareholders, in July it announced an aspiration to zero out CO2 within three decades.

**

Has anyone shown their work on this?

I'm assuming "carbon credit" bullsh*t, but the items that are giving the carbon credits have to be manufactured, shipped, installed, repaired, etc., and I'm certain that THEY take 20 years to break even, much less to begin selling any type of credit against.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 09, 2021 11:25 AM (/6kZi)

147 One problem with the left, if you care to look at their arguments intellectually* is that since literally everything they believe in is an existential, immediate, crises there is no room for discussion and analysis.

Here, global warming will kill us all in 12 years if we don't stop using fossil fuels. So, if "green" energy sucks and will kill some percentage of the world population - still better then everyone right? This means everything has to be a political fight to the end.

*Lefty LIVs believe lefty arguments. Lefty leaders/elites do not.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2021 11:25 AM (ESjRY)

148 Climate Change nonsense is all stupendously ridiculous.

It would literally take 5 minutes under the hot lights for me or anyone with half a fucking brain to cross examining alleged climate scientist like say Michael Mann to completely reveal this for the scam and op it is.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2021 11:25 AM (SXj99)

149 ""Those old people who froze to death deserved to die because they were addicted to oil."
-The Left in about a month"

Until we start making it personal for the gated community types, this is going to continue to get worse. Destroying stores on main street is all well and good, but if the commies really want to place the blame properly, they need to be hitting the wealthy suburbs.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 09, 2021 11:25 AM (Ectld)

150 The bomb exploded under Immelt, but Jack Welch lit the fuse.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Remember back in the day all corporate rags touted Jack and his management style? We all needed to hurry up and adopt all his pronouncements.

Ironic, no?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021 11:25 AM (mD/uy)

151 We will not just be eating bugs, we will be willing to kill our neighbor for a roly-poly

Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:25 AM (m45I2)

152 >>>Pollyamory - the love of parrots?
Posted by: Captain Obvious

Love of crackers. Actual crackers, not white people.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2021 11:25 AM (VWp7G)

153 they cut of gas pipelines and people freeze ... maybe it will sink some of the Green Love Boats, and clean coal will make a revival. Along with oil and gas, and nuclear. The main front in the war against America is their war against our cheap energy.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 09, 2021 11:19 AM (Cus5s

Already happening in Western Europe as they are scrambling to buy as much coal that they can get their hands on. Seems every once in a while the oil flowing from Russia just stops for some reason, probably global warming.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 09, 2021 11:25 AM (KTaZ8)

154 Bruce Dern will be on one of those ships.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2021 11:21 AM (63Dwl)

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Heh. I had to check ... Bruce is still with us.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 09, 2021 11:26 AM (cUUIs)

155 The Soviets used some sort of liquid metal coolant in the reactor for the "Alpha" class nuclear submarines. IIRC it was a bitch to "turn off" when needed.
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Liquid sodium, IIRR.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 09, 2021 11:26 AM (AlkyK)

156 1. Kill 85% of the human population.
2. Enslave most of the rest.
3. Luxury will be different for the elites than it is now but they won't have to worry about pesky people rising above their station.

Sure, it won't work - at least not for long - but the elites aren't as bright as they tell each other.

All of the this.

People throwing around Fukushima as the inevitable result of nuclear power forget that if they hadn't put the backup generator below sea level that never would've been a problem. Also that that was 1960s tech, and there are much newer reactor designs that are unable to go critical.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2021 11:26 AM (ZGrMX)

157 119 It is impossible to power a modern economy on solar without storage.

It's impossible with current battery technology. I know, shocking, isn't it?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:20 AM (RR8iF)

Some plans call for using excess power generation to pump water to uphill storage, so when wind isn't blowning or the sun isn't shining, the water can run hydroelectric generators. In Kali? Forget about it! They're tearing down damns, not building new ones...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

158 Geothermal showed some promise with some low temp (300 degree) projects.

Ten years and $100 million tax dollars later and the Raser Technology executives are rich and blaming everyone else.

Posted by: Lrrr at November 09, 2021 11:26 AM (jIL4c)

159 We will not just be eating bugs, we will be willing to kill our neighbor for a roly-poly
Posted by: Muldoon

At that point, I'm eating ribs. IYKWIM.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:26 AM (RR8iF)

160 90 Fritos will burn like a candle.

how many fritos would a big boy locomotive require to haul a load of freight from ogden, utah to casper, wyoming?

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:26 AM (sGtp+)

161
We all needed to hurry up and adopt all his pronouncements.

________

Rank and yank, baby!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2021 11:26 AM (/U27+)

162 Under pressure from climate activists and shareholders, in July it announced an aspiration to zero out CO2 within three decades.

**

Has anyone shown their work on this?

Aspirations are like a***oles. Everyone has them, but they usually stink.

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:27 AM (ZsR3z)

163 >>
But there are all those charging units at the NJ rest stops... that are always empty.

Our local Target store installed a bank of them last year. They are never used.
The wine mom Karen's that shop there charge their E-cars at home to get around town...mostly driving to the liquor store and the casinos.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 09, 2021 11:27 AM (2xGy+)

164 17 When they reduce us to a couple hundred million surface dwelling morlocks, they will come out of there underground habitrail settlements in their flying cars, to harvest the livestock.
They saved the flying cars for themselves.

Posted by: Eloi and morlocks at November 09, 2021 11:05 AM (bRhZG)

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NOW I know where the f*ck went my jetpack!

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 09, 2021 11:27 AM (cUUIs)

165 >>>The Soviets used some sort of liquid metal coolant in the reactor for the "Alpha" class nuclear submarines. IIRC it was a bitch to "turn off" when needed.

That's why the cook had to sabotage it before Jack Ryan intervened.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2021 11:27 AM (VWp7G)

166 132 Burning liberals creates an unacceptable amount of noxious gases, though.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (KATBx)

Their bloviating does anyway.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:27 AM (ynpvh)

167 >>160 90 Fritos will burn like a candle.

how many fritos would a big boy locomotive require to haul a load of freight from ogden, utah to casper, wyoming?
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:26 AM (sGtp+)

This is a trick math question isn't it?

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 09, 2021 11:28 AM (2xGy+)

168 Here, global warming will kill us all in 12 years if we don't stop using fossil fuels.

*

Fun fact: The "we're going to destroy the earth if we don't change in 11 years" is never cited because it dates back to 1989.

"UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000."

apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf1
18ec99964ea547880cd0

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 09, 2021 11:28 AM (/6kZi)

169 Some plans call for using excess power generation to pump water to uphill storage, so when wind isn't blowning or the sun isn't shining, the water can run hydroelectric generators. In Kali? Forget about it! They're tearing down damns, not building new ones...

Posted by: jim

It's cute that they think they'll have excess power.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:28 AM (RR8iF)

170 >>>Our local Target store installed a bank of them last year. They are never used.
The wine mom Karen's that shop there charge their E-cars at home to get around town...mostly driving to the liquor store and the casinos.
Posted by: Capital Eff

And whining about conservatives.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2021 11:28 AM (VWp7G)

171 Premise of Silent Running never made a lot of sense. Send the forest ships to Saturn? But the sunlight is so much less. Why Saturn? Because Douglas Trumbull said they had the special effects technology to do it. So that is how it ended up in the Bruce Dern/Joan Baez eco-movie.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (B8kNI)

172 Israel's economy is a house of cards sustained by a substantial US contribution...

Posted by: Michael Christian at November 09, 2021 11:13 AM (/LbTY)

This is a laughably stupid comment, untethered from even the most basic and easily discovered facts.

I have left it in place as a testament to the ignorance and stupidity of most of our trolls, with the forlorn hope that somewhere, someone is training the new generation of basement-dwelling, masturbating 20-somethings that trolling needs to be accompanied by just a little bit of reality for it to be of any quality.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (Q9lwr)

173 140 121 Worlds first molten salt-cooled Thorium reactor...
https://tinyurl.com/4cfcxb5k
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:20 AM (ynpvh)

That's not the first waterless reactor. There have been several sodium reactors. The Navy even built a sub with one in the 1950's, I think.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (UuD2k)

Didn't say it was. It's a combo thing...with thorium in there.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (ynpvh)

174 Rubber bands...while the wind turbines are generating power...have them twist rubber bands to store energy for when the wind's not blowing.

******
Now THAT's an energy strategy with real potential...

(wait for it...)
Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021

***
You gotta be kinetic me!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (txdEq)

175 >>>90 Fritos will burn like a candle.

Heh, I learned that by watching Survivorman. Such a great show.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (VWp7G)

176 People throwing around Fukushima as the inevitable result of nuclear power forget that if they hadn't put the backup generator below sea level that never would've been a problem. Also that that was 1960s tech, and there are much newer reactor designs that are unable to go critical.

It's a good thing the anti-nukers weren't around in the early 1900s. We'd still be looking at grainy videos of guys in ornithopters plummeting over cliffs.

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (ZsR3z)

177 Wait, so has California explained why they haven't made it work yet?

Is it someone in Alabama's fault?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (/6kZi)

178 I remember when GE was a good company and the lefties ruined it.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (Qp5yL)

179 Geothermal showed some promise with some low temp (300 degree) projects.

Ten years and $100 million tax dollars later and the Raser Technology executives are rich and blaming everyone else.

Posted by: Lrrr at November 09, 2021 11:26 AM (jIL4c)

Remember when Al Gore touted the energy potential of tapping the million degree heat the center of the earth produces? Psychopaths.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (2DOZq)

180 Let'r Rip Brandon

Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (jsWA8)

181 Anyway, like I was sayin', roly-polys is the fruit of the cave. You can barbecue 'em, boil 'em, broil 'em, bake 'em, saute 'em. There's uh, roly-polys-kabobs, roly-polys creole, roly-polys gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple roly-polys, lemon roly-polys, coconut roly-polys, pepper roly-polys, roly-polys soup, roly-polys stew, roly-polys salad, roly-polys and potatoes, roly-polys burger, roly-polys sandwich. That- that's about it.

/Bubba Gump Bugs

Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:30 AM (m45I2)

182 I'm totally into polyarmory. Wait, what? Oh. Never mind.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 09, 2021 11:24 AM (nfrXX)
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If you only build ARs, but you chamber in multiple calibers, does that count?

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 09, 2021 11:30 AM (MeXn+)

183 I'd like to know how the Chinese solved the problem with 1000 degree radioactive salt corrosion...or maybe they didn't.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:30 AM (ynpvh)

184 The reality is that absent a huge push for nuclear power, there is no alternative to oil.

Partially true. The solution is nuclear power for the next 40 to 50 years, while we build out Solar Power Satellites (SPS).

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2021 11:30 AM (a3Q+t)

185 The wine mom Karen's that shop there charge their E-cars at home to get around town...mostly driving to the liquor store and the casinos.
Posted by: Capital Eff

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And the electric vehicles are the family's third or fourth cars.

They have normal cars for when they need to do normal car things.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 09, 2021 11:30 AM (/6kZi)

186 59 Our Betters will continue living in their multiple mansions with their wrap around redwood decks and their service staff.

We will need to live in multi unit apartments with rolling blackouts and eat bugs.

For Mother Earth.
and to make our congenitally depraved elites feel better about themselves by comparison, but mostly just to make our congenitally depraved elites feel better about themselves.
Posted by: why is their self esteem issue our problem? at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (0Pu0e)

Redwood houses burn real good. Yes, sir. Real real good.

Posted by: My name is Jose Jimanez at November 09, 2021 11:31 AM (Fs5vw)

187 Heh, I learned that by watching Survivorman. Such a great show.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (VWp7G)

Alternate title: Les Stroud starves on 5 continents.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 11:31 AM (o2MD2)

188 133 His (DenBeste) is a sad story, I miss him too....even if he basically only posted about anime after a while.

can't complain; i found so much good anime via his blog.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:31 AM (sGtp+)

189 What exactly is a cleaner industrial era?

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An era where the consultancy class gets richer at the expense of the working class while feeling good about offshoring energy production and minding from America where it is done cleanly and safely to China where it is done exploitatively and with slave labor either in China or areas that China will occupy by force or by economics.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 09, 2021 11:31 AM (sX1BW)

190 [iPartially true. The solution is nuclear power for the next 40 to 50 years, while we build out Solar Power Satellites (SPS).

You are correct, sir!

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:32 AM (ZsR3z)

191 Of course RD was relentlessly optimistic about a lot of things.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:04 AM

Most especially the darndest things kids said.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2021 11:32 AM (a3Q+t)

192 168 "UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000."

apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf1
18ec99964ea547880cd0

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 09, 2021 11:28 AM (/6kZi)

That explains Atlantis...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:32 AM (ynpvh)

193 When I worked in the electrical industry GE was the big boy on the block and everyone wanted to be like them including my company. We failed to become GE lite and it was a good thing. The parent company that owned the division I worked for is going gang busters and their stock has been at an all time high for few years.
GE has floundered while trying to find themselves. They just announced that they are splitting up the company into 3 separate divisions over the next couple years. New image may help.
Not saying their stock isn't doing well, still my much smaller fromer company's stock is twice the price of their's. Suck it GE.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 09, 2021 11:32 AM (2NHgQ)

194 132 Burning liberals creates an unacceptable amount of noxious gases, though.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 09, 2021 11:23 AM (KATBx)
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Light a fire for a man, and he might stay warm for a day. Light a man on fire, and he will stay warm for the rest of his life.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 09, 2021 11:32 AM (MeXn+)

195 Our Betters will continue living in their multiple mansions with their wrap around redwood decks and their service staff.

A lot of those mansions have fireplaces in nearly every room, too. Flaunt what you're trying to stop the proles from having, and all that.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2021 11:33 AM (ZGrMX)

196 Bj market....blow jobs go up to $200 pr share pr blow job avg. Between married or naught.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at November 09, 2021 11:33 AM (CwAXE)

197 What exactly is a cleaner industrial era?

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It's when industrial nations (except China) put the brakes on their industries and the 50% of the rest of the world that has never used indoor plumbing continues to sh*t in rivers and burn all the wood they want day in and day out.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 09, 2021 11:33 AM (/6kZi)

198 'and you can go get screwed if you don't like it.'

I don't like it and I would prefer to screw them back.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 09, 2021 11:33 AM (q3iUt)

199 Bubba Gump Bugs
Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:30 AM (m45I2)
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You're handy with that find-and-replace function.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (AlkyK)

200 Geothermal showed some promise with some low temp (300 degree) projects.

Ten years and $100 million tax dollars later and the Raser Technology executives are rich and blaming everyone else.

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Anytime a large investment is made in anything relatively new - you might as well set most of that investment on fire. That is because the person spending the money isn't the one investing.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (sX1BW)

201 Solar power satellites ist verbotten!

The Left will screech because you will need to microwave the energy back to Earth and what if the beam isn't aimed correctly, how many people will fry?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (B8kNI)

202 "Bj market....blow jobs go up to $200 pr share pr blow job avg. Between married or naught."

Learn the fine art of reciprocation.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (Ectld)

203 What exactly is a cleaner industrial era? That sounds suspiciously like outsourcing our energy intensive industrial base to places that don't give a rat's ass about carbon.

Becasue everyone knows that if the US is taxed into poverty and all industry is outsourced, then the earth will be purified. Becasue only the US pollutes.
/sarc

Posted by: Diogenes at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (axyOa)

204
Partially true. The solution is nuclear power for the next 40 to 50 years, while we build out Solar Power Satellites (SPS).
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2021

***
Remember what happened to the Ringworld when they depended on space-based power generators!

Posted by: Louis Wu, who was there at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (txdEq)

205 GE has floundered while trying to find themselves. They just announced that they are splitting up the company into 3 separate divisions over the next couple years.

It irks me no end that the idiots running these outfits think reorganization is a panacea for making good products and services. Hey, GE, make me a decent oven and maybe we'll talk. Until then, KMA.

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (ZsR3z)

206 167 >>160 90 Fritos will burn like a candle.

how many fritos would a big boy locomotive require to haul a load of freight from ogden, utah to casper, wyoming?
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:26 AM (sGtp+)

This is a trick math question isn't it?

no. trick math questions always include another locomotive going the other way.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (sGtp+)

207 The Energy Triad for Prosperity: Nuclear, Oil, and Coal.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:04 AM (B8kNI)

And these three are really the only portable and dispatchable forms of Big Energy. Hydroelectric is nice, when you own the necessary real estate to make it work, but shipping the resulting electricity more than about a thousand miles becomes uneconomic. Ditto with geothermal; nice when you have it, useless where you don't. Solar and wind power are more widely distributed, but a lot less concentrated, and both are subject to interruptions beyond our ability to control.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (P3gRi)

208 Regarding GE, not everyone is cut out to run a large, industry-leading company.

Posted by: Carly Fiorina at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (a3Q+t)

209 Aspirations are like a***oles. Everyone has them, but they usually stink.

******

An aspiration is often something you can choke on.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (m45I2)

210 Fun fact: The "we're going to destroy the earth if we don't change in 11 years" is never cited because it dates back to 1989.

Yeah, this is a whole nother issue. The left makes a claim. That claim is wrong. And there is never an analysis of what that means about other lefty claims in the FNM.

This is part of the reason that younger people are more likely to be left leaning LIVs. If you've been 29 for a few decades you've heard the left claim we will all be dead by now repeatedly. If you are under 29 this is all new. Well, if you don't read and that's what are school systems try to make sure young people don't do.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2021 11:35 AM (ESjRY)

211 I'm sure everybody having their own solar power generating station at their house will work out fine. Just like the backyard iron furnaces worked in Mao's "Great Leap Forward."

All you have to do is believe in the promise of a better future to make it all work.

Posted by: Ripley at November 09, 2021 11:35 AM (MxEKc)

212 What exactly is a cleaner industrial era?

It's also a floor wax.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:35 AM (B8kNI)

213 171 Premise of Silent Running never made a lot of sense. Send the forest ships to Saturn? But the sunlight is so much less. Why Saturn? Because Douglas Trumbull said they had the special effects technology to do it. So that is how it ended up in the Bruce Dern/Joan Baez eco-movie.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (B8kNI)

yeah, light intensity drops off by the square of distance. Saturn is 9.5 AU (earth is 1 AU), so less than one 90th the light intensity out there...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:35 AM (ynpvh)

214 The leftists and democrats (BIRM) have no intention of providing their so-called Green Energy to the masses. While people here point out the significant shortcomings of renewables and "green" energy the people tasked with implementing the program don't give a shit about details like those. Green Energy is for the little people. Regular fossil fuel, nuke, whatever power is for the leadership and their minions.

You don't see any of these Green Energy unicorns powering the White House, the Capitol or any other government institution for a reason.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (BFigT)

215 Burning liberals creates an unacceptable amount of noxious gases, though.

One wonders if lighting a match behind Joe Biden would lead to a hypersonic president.

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (ZsR3z)

216 How many Fritos would a Big Boy locomotive require reminds my of my Thermodynamics II homework. in fact, it is identical to a coal powered powerplant analysis.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (o2MD2)

217 I want one of those pushing "Green Energy" to walk up to a poor African, Indian, Chinese person etc. and explain why he can't have what we've had for decades.

Posted by: Brad at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (hRGgF)

218 GE has floundered while trying to find themselves. They just announced that they are splitting up the company into 3 separate divisions over the next couple years.

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GE has definitely floundered. Breaking up isn't a bad move at all. Should have been done a long time ago.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (sX1BW)

219 Remember what happened to the Ringworld when they depended on space-based power generators!
Posted by: Louis Wu, who was there at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM

Just go to a Dyson Sphere. Problem solved. ;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (a3Q+t)

220 The French have had "modular' nuclear reactors, ie one standard size reactor of 25MW, for decades. They just build how many are needed, saves boatloads of money on design costs.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:18 AM (B8kNI)

That's just crazy talk. We were only 6.5X over the initial official cost estimates that were used to sell the idea to voters/ratepayers.

Posted by: South Texas Nuclear Project and Brown&Root at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (4I/2K)

221 184 Partially true. The solution is nuclear power for the next 40 to 50 years, while we build out Solar Power Satellites (SPS).

people are currently pulling their hair out about carbon in the atmosphere trapping energy arriving from the sun. how will they react when you start adding additional energy that would have *missed* the earth?

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (sGtp+)

222 179 Geothermal showed some promise with some low temp (300 degree) projects.

Ten years and $100 million tax dollars later and the Raser Technology executives are rich and blaming everyone else.

Posted by: Lrrr at November 09, 2021 11:26 AM (jIL4c)

Remember when Al Gore touted the energy potential of tapping the million degree heat the center of the earth produces? Psychopaths.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:29 AM (2DOZq)

Didn't Al Gore invent the molten-sodium-cooled thorium reactor?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

223 Solar power is pretty cool so long as you don't need to power anything.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 09, 2021 11:37 AM (/6kZi)

224 201 Solar power satellites ist verbotten!

The Left will screech because you will need to microwave the energy back to Earth and what if the beam isn't aimed correctly, how many people will fry?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (B8kNI)

#featurenotabug

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 09, 2021 11:37 AM (BgMrQ)

225 216 How many Fritos would a Big Boy locomotive require reminds my of my Thermodynamics II homework. in fact, it is identical to a coal powered powerplant analysis.

no, it's not. we're talking *fritos* here, not coal.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:37 AM (sGtp+)

226 199 Bubba Gump Bugs
Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:30 AM (m45I2)
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You're handy with that find-and-replace function.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (AlkyK)

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Easy to do with a unix command script back in the day (and I guess scripting languages like perl and python for those under 29).

Is Muldoon on Linux?

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 09, 2021 11:37 AM (cUUIs)

227 Aspirations are like a***oles. Everyone has them, but they usually stink.

******

An aspiration is often something you can choke on.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM (m45I2)
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SOON! I shall have the largest Aspirator-arator in the Tri-State Area!!!!
**Laughs maniacally**

Posted by: Prof Duffensmertch at November 09, 2021 11:37 AM (axyOa)

228 190 [iPartially true. The solution is nuclear power for the next 40 to 50 years, while we build out Solar Power Satellites (SPS).

You are correct, sir!

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:32 AM (ZsR3z)

Directed energy weapons from space for the win!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:38 AM (ynpvh)

229 Liberals let criminals go free and lessen penalties or eliminate penalties for crime.

So society gets worse instead of better, You would think tey would ban green energy and require massive use of oil.

Posted by: torabora at November 09, 2021 11:38 AM (fbHXO)

230 Two words: Pebble reactors.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2021 11:38 AM (a3Q+t)

231 Remember what happened to the Ringworld when they depended on space-based power generators!
Posted by: Louis Wu, who was there at November 09, 2021

Just go to a Dyson Sphere. Problem solved. ;-)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2021

***
Can't see the stars.

Posted by: Louis Wu at November 09, 2021 11:38 AM (txdEq)

232 Pro tip: Coal IS solar power.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 11:38 AM (o2MD2)

233 people are currently pulling their hair out about carbon in the atmosphere trapping energy arriving from the sun. how will they react when you start adding additional energy that would have *missed* the earth?

Simple. We build solar powered air conditioners.

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:38 AM (ZsR3z)

234 What's so galling is that the blueprint for a better life is already out there, in black and white.

It's called the United States, with the most unique political system ever devised, that has already produced an extraordinary people.

It's disadvantage right now is that it must be administered by a moral people, something lacking in our politics just now.

The Founding Fathers KNEW.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 09, 2021 11:38 AM (KATBx)

235 Is Muldoon on Linux?

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The creative poets are always on something.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 09, 2021 11:38 AM (sX1BW)

236 Not first

Posted by: JT at November 09, 2021 11:39 AM (arJlL)

237 219 Just go to a Dyson Sphere. Problem solved.

little-known fact: the dyson sphere was dyson's greatest fear.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:39 AM (sGtp+)

238 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 09, 2021 11:39 AM (arJlL)

239 My solar panels and equipment arrive Thursday ... 9000W on the label, but on nice days 6500 will be as good as it gets, at peak. They already shut down our coal plant in Meredosia, after scrapping stupid and expensive plans to bury the CO2.

Since they are destroying our currency, I figured I'd invest in enough solar electric to do some things, even run some AC, if the Junta decides we deplorables need to be punished with brown outs, or rolling blackouts. ... But I won't be making any steel, or running any electric tractors.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 09, 2021 11:39 AM (Cus5s)

240 How many Fritos would a Big Boy locomotive require reminds my of my Thermodynamics II homework. in fact, it is identical to a coal powered powerplant analysis.
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no, it's not. we're talking *fritos* here, not coal.
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021

***
Never, ever waste a Frito, senor.

Posted by: The Frito Bandito, now cancelled at November 09, 2021 11:39 AM (txdEq)

241 218 GE has floundered while trying to find themselves. They just announced that they are splitting up the company into 3 separate divisions over the next couple years.
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GE has definitely floundered. Breaking up isn't a bad move at all. Should have been done a long time ago.
Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (sX1BW)

Another huge international conglomerate, Toshiba, is considering breaking itself up into three separate companies as well.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2021 11:39 AM (EU//e)

242 people are currently pulling their hair out about carbon in the atmosphere trapping energy arriving from the sun. how will they react when you start adding additional energy that would have *missed* the earth?

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You're talking about the same people who think they're going to stop the spread of a cold virus by constantly touching their face, nose, and mouth before then touching publicly shared surfaces.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 09, 2021 11:40 AM (/6kZi)

243 231 Just go to a Dyson Sphere. Problem solved. ;-)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2021

***
Can't see the stars.

can't see them anyway.

Posted by: Amazon's Proposed 7,738 Satellites at November 09, 2021 11:40 AM (sGtp+)

244 215 Burning liberals creates an unacceptable amount of noxious gases, though.

One wonders if lighting a match behind Joe Biden would lead to a hypersonic president.

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (ZsR3z)

hyperinflation, maybe.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:40 AM (ynpvh)

245 @JackPosobiec 9m

BREAKING: Medical Examiner testifies gunpowder/soot found on the left hand of Joseph Rosenbaum

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2021 11:40 AM (cF8AT)

246 How many Fritos would a Big Boy locomotive require reminds my of my Thermodynamics II homework

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Are we talking about today's Frito bags or Frito bags from 20 years ago?

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 09, 2021 11:41 AM (sX1BW)

247 @illiniwek

What's your cost and did you get any subsidies?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 09, 2021 11:41 AM (Ectld)

248 216 How many Fritos would a Big Boy locomotive require reminds my of my Thermodynamics II homework. in fact, it is identical to a coal powered powerplant analysis.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (o2MD2)

Except the energy is less dense with Fritos.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:41 AM (ynpvh)

249 245 @JackPosobiec 9m

BREAKING: Medical Examiner testifies gunpowder/soot found on the left hand of Joseph Rosenbaum
Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2021 11:40 AM (cF8AT)

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Probably planted there by the NRA.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 11:41 AM (LvTSG)

250 Just go to a Dyson Sphere. Problem solved.

little-known fact: the dyson sphere was dyson's greatest fear.
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021

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That, and that nobody would buy his vacuum cleaners.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:41 AM (txdEq)

251 Never, ever waste a Frito, senor.
Posted by: The Frito Bandito,

Get back on top of my pencil!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:41 AM (RR8iF)

252 219 Remember what happened to the Ringworld when they depended on space-based power generators!
Posted by: Louis Wu, who was there at November 09, 2021 11:34 AM

Just go to a Dyson Sphere. Problem solved. ;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (a3Q+t)

Well, Dyson makes interesting vacuums and fans...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:41 AM (ynpvh)

253 For those way late to things, a book to start with is Environmental Overkill: What Ever Happened to Common Sense by Dixie Lee Ray and Lou Guzzo.

Section Five of James P. Hogan's Kicking the Sacred Cow might also be in order.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:41 AM (B8kNI)

254 I just did some more looking, follow-up on the geothermal guys.
Lots of "capacity" claims and they're still pushing promises.

Know what's missing? Actual delivery numbers, can't find em anywhere.

Posted by: Lrrr at November 09, 2021 11:41 AM (jIL4c)

255 https://youtu.be/ufy2AweXRkc

Gee, looks like ivermectin is the treatment of choice. And remedesivir doesn't work. And the new Pfizer pill is not as effective as ivermectin but costs more. And Dr Campbell just follows the science on these things.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 09, 2021 11:41 AM (5HBd1)

256 Is Muldoon on Linux?

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The creative poets are always on something.
Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 09, 2021 11:38 AM (sX1BW)
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Thats a kind of mushroom isn't it?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 09, 2021 11:41 AM (axyOa)

257 Warning:

Always copy your longer posts before you hit enter.

M%#** ^ F#**#%

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:42 AM (2DOZq)

258 Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:36 AM (ZsR3z).

Thats a terrible thing to say.

And probably not given the amount of H2O in Joe's usual emissions.

Posted by: PaleRider, hysteria denier at November 09, 2021 11:42 AM (3cGpq)

259 MIT just made a huge breakthrough in Fusion reactor design. We might see a working reactor in 30 years!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 09, 2021 11:42 AM (0ryfU)

260 For those way late to things, a book to start with is Environmental Overkill: What Ever Happened to Common Sense by Dixie Lee Ray

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Sounds racist

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 09, 2021 11:42 AM (sX1BW)

261 You're handy with that find-and-replace function.
Posted by: Captain Obvious

******

Streamlined Snark™

Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:42 AM (m45I2)

262 232 Pro tip: Coal IS solar power.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 11:38 AM (o2MD2)

Yup. Stored for millions and millions of years. Now THAT'S long term storage. Forget batteries.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:43 AM (ynpvh)

263 BREAKING: Medical Examiner testifies gunpowder/soot found on the left hand of Joseph Rosenbaum

**

ALEC BALDWIN!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 09, 2021 11:43 AM (/6kZi)

264 245 @JackPosobiec 9m

Ah-hah. Bastard was grabbing the barrel of the gun. You can get shot that way.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 09, 2021 11:43 AM (q3iUt)

265 263 BREAKING: Medical Examiner testifies gunpowder/soot found on the left hand of Joseph Rosenbaum

**

ALEC BALDWIN!!!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 09, 2021 11:43 AM (/6kZi)

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"Matt Damon!"
-Matt Damon

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 11:43 AM (LvTSG)

266 The reality is that absent a huge push for nuclear power, there is no alternative to oil.

Live in caves, eat dirt!

Posted by: Cave Dweller at November 09, 2021 11:43 AM (QU5/8)

267 *comment deleted* 'cause no body cares. LOL.

Posted by: Actually Inside the Beltway at November 09, 2021 11:44 AM (fMhOl)

268 Perusing LinkedIn, I came across someone whose title is EQUITY AND INCLUSION ARCHITECT.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 11:44 AM (OalnH)

269 "And the electric vehicles are the family's third or fourth cars.

They have normal cars for when they need to do normal car things.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 09, 2021 11:30 AM (/6kZi)"

That they do. Most electric vehicles are affectations for affluent families or daydreams for car-less hiptsers in blue anthills that don't have anywhere to park anyways and mistakenly think of electrics as something they understand better (they don't understand jack shit).

The internal combustion engine is a boogeyman for late millenials and zoomers; most weren't taught to work on them, weren't taught how to teach themselves, and came of age with DOT mandates and cash for clunkers making used cars expensive as shit. Growing up driving awful $1200 70's/80's vehicles was sorta shitty but not as bad as being presented with the $10,000 beater on turning 16.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 09, 2021 11:44 AM (Z7rbj)

270 For those way late to things, a book to start with is Environmental Overkill: What Ever Happened to Common Sense by Dixie Lee Ray . . .

***
Perfect stripper name. Or name for a serial killer or political assassin

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:44 AM (txdEq)

271 245 @JackPosobiec 9m

BREAKING: Medical Examiner testifies gunpowder/soot found on the left hand of Joseph Rosenbaum

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2021 11:40 AM (cF8AT)

At how close he was to Kyle, I bet more than that on him.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:44 AM (ynpvh)

272 In a move that shocks no one Disney is editing out the gay kiss in Eternals for some foreign markets. This is apparently after they claimed that wouldn't be done.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 09, 2021 11:44 AM (G2zl5)

273 268 Perusing LinkedIn, I came across someone whose title is EQUITY AND INCLUSION ARCHITECT.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 11:44 AM (OalnH)

Did he work for Vandelay Industries.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (UuD2k)

274 Has anyone else noticed that the variable color mini LED Christmas lights are nowhere to be found this year? Costco usually has them, but none this year. Ditto Amazon. It's my guess they're moldering in containers off of Long Beach.

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (ZsR3z)

275 259 MIT just made a huge breakthrough in Fusion reactor design. We might see a working reactor in 30 years!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 09, 2021 11:42 AM (0ryfU)

THey said about fusion reactors 30 years ago...Just another 30 years!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

276 259 MIT just made a huge breakthrough in Fusion reactor design. We might see a working reactor in 30 years!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 09, 2021 11:42 AM (0ryfU)

___

Right around the time Durham's report will be ready.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (OalnH)

277 272 In a move that shocks no one Disney is editing out the gay kiss in Eternals for some foreign markets. This is apparently after they claimed that wouldn't be done.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 09, 2021 11:44 AM (G2zl5)

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I remember Angelina Jolie saying last week that she was so proud of Disney for not bowing to the Middle East's demands for just these cuts.

I wonder if she'll release another statement.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (LvTSG)

278 Ah-hah. Bastard was grabbing the barrel of the gun. You can get shot that way.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 09, 2021 11:43 AM (q3iUt)
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And they both reached for the gun!

Posted by: Billy Flynn at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (AlkyK)

279 "Perusing LinkedIn, I came across someone whose title is EQUITY AND INCLUSION ARCHITECT."

Kill them with fire.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (Ectld)

280 268 Perusing LinkedIn, I came across someone whose title is EQUITY AND INCLUSION ARCHITECT.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 11:44 AM (OalnH)

Nice work if you can get it...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (BgMrQ)

281 259 MIT just made a huge breakthrough in Fusion reactor design. We might see a working reactor in 30 years!

or we might not

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (sGtp+)

282 So which was the most overrated show on television?

a) Game of Thrones
b) MASH
c) Friends
d) The Walking Dead

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 09, 2021 11:46 AM (KZzsI)

283 They ruined Liberty Mutual's claim department when the new CEO decided to centralize claim handling offices.

It's an evil cycle of CEOs ruining established companies and getting huge salaries and a Golden parachute.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:46 AM (2DOZq)

284 259 MIT just made a huge breakthrough in Fusion reactor design. We might see a working reactor in 30 years!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 09, 2021 11:42 AM (0ryfU)

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I've been told for 50 years that viable nuclear fusion plants (mainly materials technology to contain the heat) are 50 years away ... each and every year since.

Just like I've been told for 30 years that there are only 20 million illegal aliens here ... each and every years since.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 09, 2021 11:46 AM (cUUIs)

285 Supposedly GOP-e types are upset that Sununu announced he won't run for Senate from NH against the democrat currently there. Meh, he would have gone left on any important vote, so good riddance.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2021 11:46 AM (trdmm)

286 For those way late to things, a book to start with is Environmental Overkill: What Ever Happened to Common Sense by Dixie Lee Ray and Lou Guzzo.

Section Five of James P. Hogan's Kicking the Sacred Cow might also be in order.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:41 AM (B8kNI)
***

Dixis Lee Ray???
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
The woman governor who gave us the Washington Public Power Supply System (WPPSS) pronounced Whoops.
Thousands of seniors lost their savings on this BS.
Yup...a Democrat.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 09, 2021 11:46 AM (axyOa)

287 a) Game of Thrones
b) MASH
c) Friends
d) The Walking Dead

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e) 60 minutes

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 09, 2021 11:46 AM (sX1BW)

288 THey said about fusion reactors 30 years ago...Just another 30 years!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

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Kinda like how every 10 years, we are told we only have 10 years to stop gloBULL warming, before it's too late.

I think I see a grift pattern here.....

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 11:46 AM (OalnH)

289 285 Supposedly GOP-e types are upset that Sununu announced he won't run for Senate from NH against the democrat currently there. Meh, he would have gone left on any important vote, so good riddance.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2021 11:46 AM (trdmm)

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Well, why do you think they're upset?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 11:46 AM (LvTSG)

290 So which was the most overrated show on television?

a) Game of Thrones
b) MASH
c) Friends
d) The Walking Dead
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 09, 2021 11:46 AM

Walking Dead is my vote.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:46 AM (2DOZq)

291 In a move that shocks no one Disney is editing out the gay kiss in Eternals for some foreign markets.

They film stuff like that specifically so it can be cut for markets like China and Saudi Arabia. They are never integral to the story, they don't develop character, they aren't a natural part of the storytelling.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 09, 2021 11:47 AM (KZzsI)

292 Another huge international conglomerate, Toshiba, is considering breaking itself up into three separate companies as well.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2021 11:39 AM (EU//e)

Toshiba can DIAF. Haven't bought a single product of theirs. I still remember them helping the Soviet's make quieter submarines.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 09, 2021 11:47 AM (KTaZ8)

293 @JackPosobiec 9m

BREAKING: Medical Examiner testifies gunpowder/soot found on the left hand of Joseph Rosenbaum
Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2021 11:40 AM (cF8AT)

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Probably planted there by the NRA.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves

or Alec

Posted by: JT at November 09, 2021 11:47 AM (arJlL)

294 I don't mind electric cars. They're neat toys, especially Teslas. But I don't want electric car mandates. They do not scale and they do not have the durability and reliability I demand.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Dune 2021 review at November 09, 2021 11:47 AM (XvPQV)

295 There are some good uses for solar. It works okay on a small scale. You can use it to power warning lights and such. You can live comfortably in your van, using solar. It's okay for charging small electronics. It's not very useful for large scale projects. But it has to be all or nothing for these nut cases. They can't let you use types of energy where they are effective. Just not enough graft in that.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 09, 2021 11:47 AM (5HBd1)

296 277 272 In a move that shocks no one Disney is editing out the gay kiss in Eternals for some foreign markets. This is apparently after they claimed that wouldn't be done.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 09, 2021 11:44 AM (G2zl5)
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I remember Angelina Jolie saying last week that she was so proud of Disney for not bowing to the Middle East's demands for just these cuts.

I wonder if she'll release another statement.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (LvTSG)

She's proud if the inclusivity and cultural sensitivity Disney displays.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:47 AM (ynpvh)

297 "229 Liberals let criminals go free and lessen penalties or eliminate penalties for crime.

So society gets worse instead of better, You would think tey would ban green energy and require massive use of oil.
Posted by: torabora at November 09, 2021 11:38 AM (fbHXO)"

The thing you're not getting is that banning green energy and requiring massive use of oil would be an improvement over their frantic, bad-faith push on renewables.

Just as they're enabling crime to wreck things, they're pushing wind and solar to wreck things.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 09, 2021 11:47 AM (Z7rbj)

298 Dixie Lee Ray was governor of Washington state, chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission, and even snagged a United Nations Peace prize.

Rush Limbaugh's comment on this book - "A way must be found to get this book into the hands of as many Americans as possible."

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:48 AM (B8kNI)

299 So which was the most overrated show on television?

a) Game of Thrones
b) MASH
c) Friends
d) The Walking Dead
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 09, 2021

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I've never seen A and D. B and C were great stuff in their day, though each produced its share of clinkers or clunkers.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:48 AM (txdEq)

300 MASH by far. The others on the list were good shows, if somewhat overhyped. But MASH was fucking garbage.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 11:48 AM (OalnH)

301 "MIT just made a huge breakthrough in Fusion reactor design. We might see a working reactor in 30 years!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy"

I thought I heard this 30 years ago. Maybe the radio signal has bounced back from space or something.

Posted by: Ripley at November 09, 2021 11:48 AM (MxEKc)

302 274 Has anyone else noticed that the variable color mini LED Christmas lights are nowhere to be found this year?

mission control snagged some from a wal mart in utah just a couple of weeks ago.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:48 AM (sGtp+)

303 Biden does have a commitment to "modular nuclear reactors" in his energy policy. I'm hoping those are thorium reactors. Maybe some good will come of that but the greens will through the typical hissy fit if it starts to become a thing.
Posted by: Keith - Pinochet/Bell Helicopter 202447 at November 09, 2021 11:11 AM (oaI7

Where are you going to get the thorium? The stuff is abundant in the crust, but almost never sufficiently concentrated to make it commercially possible to mine it. The traditional source has been certain beach sands in India. Do we really want to tie our energy future to that? Uranium is quite plentiful, and it tends to self-segregate in those rock formations where it exists, making it possible to mine it at a profit. So you get more nuke waste, and it's hotter. Big deal. There are solutions for that.

I am pretty certain that there is a faction of the greentards pushing for thorium salt reactors just to delay us from building uranium reactors that actually work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2021 11:48 AM (P3gRi)

304 I don't mind electric cars. They're neat toys, especially Teslas.

If someone could put out one for like 9k, just a little city driver that someone could have as a second car for cheap, then they might start being worthwhile.

But the batteries alone cost more than that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 09, 2021 11:49 AM (KZzsI)

305 THey said about fusion reactors 30 years ago...Just another 30 years!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

And here we sit, still poised to be the Ice Cream of the Future!

Posted by: Dippin' Dots at November 09, 2021 11:49 AM (FJYfm)

306 In a move that shocks no one Disney is editing out the gay kiss in Eternals for some foreign markets. This is apparently after they claimed that wouldn't be done.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 09, 2021 11:44 AM (G2zl5)

==========

I remember Angelina Jolie saying last week that she was so proud of Disney for not bowing to the Middle East's demands for just these cuts.

I wonder if she'll release another statement.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves

Ya think ?

Posted by: JT at November 09, 2021 11:49 AM (arJlL)

307 Assume a spherical Frito at standard temperature and pressure...

Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:49 AM (m45I2)

308 MIT just made a huge breakthrough in Fusion reactor design. We might see a working reactor in 30 years!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 09, 2021 11:42 AM (0ryfU)

The Pope will build a Vatican in Vegas before that happens.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 09, 2021 11:49 AM (ZSK0i)

309
I truly admire the cynicism of these people. It's raw and brutal.

GE is packed to the rafters with engineers who clearly understand that "zeroing out CO2 in 30 years" is completely impossible. This is a thing that will not be happening.

But their bosses also understand the politics of pull, and that in order to protect their market share (in various ways), they have to dance to the Party's tune.

So they make these ridiculous bullshit commitments on decades-long timeframes, knowing damned well it can't and won't be done. But the Poopypants administration can trumpet it as an "accomplishment" alongside their crony capitalist partners, and the Party's PR apparatus will praise GE to the skies.

Admiral Rickover, in his plain-spoken manner, called this tactic "the old say/do" when lacing into Congressmen.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2021 11:49 AM (/KPLX)

310 You want to scramble a leftist's brains? Ask them why fission, the splitting of atoms, and fusion, the combining of atoms both release energy.

If they can't, remind them that they don't know shit about "science".

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2021 11:49 AM (UuD2k)

311 292 Another huge international conglomerate, Toshiba, is considering breaking itself up into three separate companies as well.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2021 11:39 AM (EU//e)

Toshiba can DIAF. Haven't bought a single product of theirs. I still remember them helping the Soviet's make quieter submarines.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 09, 2021 11:47 AM (KTaZ

My dad doesn't trust Japanese stuff anyway, but then again, he fought them in WW2.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:49 AM (ynpvh)

312 So which was the most overrated show on television?

a) Game of Thrones
b) MASH
c) Friends
d) The Walking Dead
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 09, 2021 11:46 AM (KZzsI)

Tough one. GOT crashed and burned like no other. Friends just petered out, without being offensive. The Walking Dead has been going downhill since season 1...which also matches the comic book arc, but MASH is probably the worst of them.

Preachy, pretentious and dishonest.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Dune 2021 review at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (XvPQV)

313 Has anyone else noticed that the variable color mini LED Christmas lights are nowhere to be found this year?

They are in Container Ship #54 parked out in the Pacific off the port of Long Beach.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (RR8iF)

314 Toshiba can DIAF. Haven't bought a single product of theirs. I still remember them helping the Soviet's make quieter submarines.
Posted by: Beartooth at November 09, 2021 11:47 AM (KTaZ

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Them and Kongswerk.

Why, yes, I can carry a grudge.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (AlkyK)

315 They ruined Liberty Mutual's claim department when the new CEO decided to centralize claim handling offices.

It's an evil cycle of CEOs ruining established companies and getting huge salaries and a Golden parachute.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021

***
The real problem was that they wouldn't give Doug and Limu Emu their own helicopter.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (txdEq)

316 The solar calculator is the template for green energy done properly.

It didn't cost anymore than a battery calculator, it did the same things as a battery calculator and it was better, because you didn't have to buy batteries.

No one had to outlaw or villainize batteries to convince me to buy a solar calculator. I got one because it was objectively better.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (KbDLH)

317 "Pro tip: Coal IS solar power."

Coal is sequestered energy, and it stole the CO2 from the atmosphere. If CO2 drops below ~200ppm, plants die, we all die. Save the plant ... bring that CO2 back to the surface ... back to the atmosphere.

I forget how low CO2 had gotten, maybe 280ppm? Fortunately it is now back to ~400ppm ... part of that escaping from the oceans as they warmed over the last few thousand years, a small part of it from man burning fuels ... at 400ppm arid regions are Greening up ... the genuine Greening of America. At 1000ppm poor people around the world will be better able to grow enough food for themselves. ...Cheap coal for the win.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (Cus5s)

318 The others on the list were good shows, if somewhat overhyped.

Its in my top two but MASH had a HUGE following with massive ratings. its not as good as people thought then but it really was enormous unlike say, Game of Thrones that had really low ratings compared to MASH (like, well below "instant cancellation" at the time) but was treated as this huge cultural movement.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (KZzsI)

319 Oh even with editing out the gay Eternals is still banned in China. Apparently the director (that Disney probably partly chose because Asian to appeal to China) is hated by the commies. So no way are they letting her movie air.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (G2zl5)

320 MASH by far. The others on the list were good shows, if somewhat overhyped. But MASH was fucking garbage.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 11:48 AM (OalnH)

Good with Wayne Rogers. Went to crap once the lefty idiot Mike Farrell got on, and the show became a 30 minute sermon every week

Posted by: Wally at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (FJYfm)

321 MASH was pure leftard bullshit. I hated it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (o2MD2)

322 Assume a spherical Frito at standard temperature and pressure...

That's ridiculous. Such experiments are always done in ultrahigh vacuum.

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (ZsR3z)

323 The Pope will build a Vatican in Vegas before that happens.

Judging by today's pope, we're more likely to see a new Vegas built in the Vatican.

Posted by: Cave Dweller at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (QU5/8)

324 "But it has to be all or nothing for these nut cases. They can't let you use types of energy where they are effective. Just not enough graft in that.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 09, 2021 11:47 AM (5HBd1)"

It's not graft, it's neofeudalism. The end goal is to reserve 24/7 utilities for the ruling class.

You see this already in the UK and EU where they're telling people they need to "adjust" to the idea that they won't have power 24 hours a day.

It's all a combination of rubbing our faces in it, raising the drawbridge on social mobility, increasing the size of their stick and also the attractiveness of their carrots. Determining who gets full time access to utilities and doesn't have to eat the bugs is a sure way to ensure loyalty in the security apparatus.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 09, 2021 11:51 AM (Z7rbj)

325 305 THey said about fusion reactors 30 years ago...Just another 30 years!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

And here we sit, still poised to be the Ice Cream of the Future!

Posted by: Dippin' Dots at November 09, 2021 11:49 AM (FJYfm)

And where are my damned hoverboards!?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:51 AM (ynpvh)

326 Japan's economy used to be based on Keiretsus, which is basically giant conglomerates. That's why you have Mitsubishi making cars and TVs. There were a handful of Keiretsus that made everything.

But now they're too big to manage and the new global economy is too fast for behemoths like that to compete.
So they're breaking up.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 11:51 AM (OalnH)

327 The first couple years of MASH were fine, then Alda took over and started splooging his leftism all over the place.

Posted by: irright at November 09, 2021 11:51 AM (8rX4S)

328 Assume a spherical Frito at standard temperature and pressure...
Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021

***
And submerge it in a 200 F. vat of chili . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:51 AM (txdEq)

329 307 Assume a spherical Frito at standard temperature and pressure...

Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:49 AM (m45I2)

Sounds like the idealized cow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_cow

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:51 AM (ynpvh)

330 Dixie Lee Ray was governor of Washington state, chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission, and even snagged a United Nations Peace prize.

Rush Limbaugh's comment on this book - "A way must be found to get this book into the hands of as many Americans as possible."
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:48 AM (B8kNI)
***

Smart as hell and quirky. Probably the last Dem I voted for. But a typical democrat in terms of economics. I'm sure there is no truth to the rumor she used the power of the Gov's office to inflate Whoops bond ratings.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 09, 2021 11:52 AM (axyOa)

331 M*A*S*H needs to be cancelled, a character named Spearchucker Jones?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 11:52 AM (B8kNI)

332 I need to sell my GE stock while dumbasses are buying it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 09, 2021 11:52 AM (UuD2k)

333 Even putting aside the politics of MASH I found it dull. Granted I only saw it in re-runs, so maybe it was a "you had to be there" type of thing to get it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 11:52 AM (OalnH)

334 That's not the first waterless reactor. There have been several sodium reactors. The Navy even built a sub with one in the 1950's, I think.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Yes, the US Navy built a sodium metal cooled nuclear reactor driven submarine in the 1950's. The Seawolf, SSN -575. There were a lot of problems with it, and the submarine was later re-fitted with the more conventional water cooled reactor.
The Soviet Alfa class used a Lead-Bismuth metal mixture for cooling. The idea was that it would be more compact and have higher power output than the pressurized water reactor.
A lot of problems with this technology aboard ship.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 09, 2021 11:52 AM (vcOmj)

335 Finished The Stand.

Really good, but damn...King needed an editor. I don't mean the length (I read the unabridged version), but he needed someone to tell him that he was getting lost in the politics of the Free Zone, that one scene with Dayna in Vegas to help sell her fate just wasn't enough, and that he was leaving a heap of interesting nuance on the table by essentially ignoring Vegas' workings for hundreds of pages.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 11:52 AM (LvTSG)

336 I am reading some articles about the prosecution witnesses in the rittenhouse trial and I have come to believe the prosecutor is trying to tank the trial on purpose. For what reason(s) I have no clue, but he couldn't be this stupid. Each and every witness the State has called has proven to be an absolute disaster for the prosecutor, and that is with hours and hours of witness prep.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 09, 2021 11:52 AM (bVYXr)

337 MASH by far. The others on the list were good shows, if somewhat overhyped. But MASH was fucking garbage.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant

It was ok, until they turned it into the Alan Alda Show.

Hawkeye takes action when the Panmunjon peace talks break down.

My ass !

Posted by: JT at November 09, 2021 11:53 AM (arJlL)

338 Oh even with editing out the gay Eternals is still banned in China. Apparently the director (that Disney probably partly chose because Asian to appeal to China) is hated by the commies. So no way are they letting her movie air.

It isn't often that I have something good to say about the PRC, but in this case, I'll make an exception. Burn, Disney, burn.

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:53 AM (ZsR3z)

339 316 The solar calculator is the template for green energy done properly.

It didn't cost anymore than a battery calculator, it did the same things as a battery calculator and it was better, because you didn't have to buy batteries.

No one had to outlaw or villainize batteries to convince me to buy a solar calculator. I got one because it was objectively better.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (KbDLH)

And mine still works (last time I found it) almost 40 years after I bought it. Scientific calc, no less.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:53 AM (ynpvh)

340 Has anyone else noticed that the variable color mini LED Christmas lights are nowhere to be found this year?

===
*begins hyperventilating*

Posted by: Karen at November 09, 2021 11:53 AM (MP2/L)

341 @AOP

Doesn't matter. Modular nuclear reactors is referring to pre-approved designs for reactors that can be easily designed and built for cheap like the Westinghouse AP 1000 design, which, by the way, has been built all over the middle east and china while South Carolina tanked theirs and Georgia can't get theirs started up. Beautiful 2 reactor in one unit design, PWRs, 1100 MW.

https://www.westinghousenuclear.com/new-plants/ap1000-pwr

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 09, 2021 11:53 AM (Ectld)

342 How many Fritos would a Big Boy locomotive require reminds my of my Thermodynamics II homework. in fact, it is identical to a coal powered powerplant analysis.

The caloric content of a food is determined by actually burning the food in a calorimeter.

100 grams of Fritos = 571 calories
100 grams of coal = 576.2 Kilocalories

So you need 1000 times the weight of Fritos to power that Big Boy, compared to coal.

*I did the maths so you don't have to!

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2021 11:54 AM (w9Wax)

343 326 Japan's economy used to be based on Keiretsus

friend of mine had a kia retsu. he drove that thing everywhere. the thing refused to die. he traded it in on a tesla.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:54 AM (sGtp+)

344 The Erf is making more evil oil and natural gas as we type. The same cannot be said for coal as it was only created during a single period of time due to unique conditions. That said, there is enough reachable coal in this country alone to power us for several hundred years with today's technology.
Posted by: Beartooth at November 09, 2021 11:14 AM (KTaZ

No, coal exists from all time periods since plants colonized the land. It is also an ongoing process.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2021 11:54 AM (P3gRi)

345 The real problem was that they wouldn't give Doug and Limu Emu their own helicopter.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (txdEq)

Heh. The change was made 30 years ago when I worked for them.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 09, 2021 11:54 AM (2DOZq)

346 The solar calculator is the template for green energy done properly.

It didn't cost anymore than a battery calculator, it did the same things as a battery calculator and it was better, because you didn't have to buy batteries.

No one had to outlaw or villainize batteries to convince me to buy a solar calculator. I got one because it was objectively better.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

You DO realize they have batteries in them?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:54 AM (RR8iF)

347 320 MASH by far. The others on the list were good shows, if somewhat overhyped. But MASH was fucking garbage.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 11:48 AM (OalnH)

Good with Wayne Rogers. Went to crap once the lefty idiot Mike Farrell got on, and the show became a 30 minute sermon every week
Posted by: Wally at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (FJYfm)

Completely agree about MASH - overrated. Wayne Rogers was a very interesting person. Princeton grad, took the money that he made with acting and became an investment whiz. Stocks and real estate. He died a very wealthy man.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2021 11:55 AM (EU//e)

348 323 The Pope will build a Vatican in Vegas before that happens.

Judging by today's pope, we're more likely to see a new Vegas built in the Vatican.

Posted by: Cave Dweller at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (QU5/

Would've been hookers AND blow back in the day if cocaine had been known back in the 15th or 16th century...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:55 AM (ynpvh)

349 The first couple years of MASH were fine, then Alda took over and started splooging his leftism all over the place.
Posted by: irright at November 09, 2021

***
It was always an anti-war series. Alda stated that he would only do the show if it was not going to be McHale's Navy in Korea -- if it was going to have something important to say. It did, with witty dialog and grand performances by everyone. It survived the loss of its main antagonist and person-we-love-to-hate, Frank Burns, with the addition of Maj. Winchester. I maintain that their Christmas 1980 episode with a grand moment for Charles and Klinger, is a classic.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:55 AM (txdEq)

350 The Pope will build a Vatican in Vegas before that happens.

Judging by today's pope, we're more likely to see a new Vegas built in the Vatican.
Posted by: Cave Dweller

With a walk-in restroom for you know who.

Posted by: JT at November 09, 2021 11:55 AM (arJlL)

351 how many fritos would a big boy locomotive require to haul a load of freight from ogden, utah to casper, wyoming?
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda

One 24 oz bag. Since the route is generally downhill, gravity will do all of the work. Neener neener!
-- Idjit journalism major college graduates

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021 11:55 AM (mD/uy)

352 But that is a price the elites are 'willing' for you to pay.

You misspelled 'excited'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 09, 2021 11:56 AM (csEWM)

353 342 The caloric content of a food is determined by actually burning the food in a calorimeter.

used to be a show on pbs that illustrated energy usage with jelly doughnuts. show always ended with a bonfire made from the jelly doughnuts they had used in the episode.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:56 AM (sGtp+)

354 I haven't followed the Rittenhouse trial, but I did wonder yesterday skimming Ace's links if some assistant prosecutor was assigned the case and decided to go for exposing the truth rather than what the political boss wanted.

Posted by: PaleRider, hysteria denier at November 09, 2021 11:56 AM (3cGpq)

355 I don't mind electric cars. They're neat toys, especially Teslas.

**

I'm the same way regarding them as cars. If you're buying it because it's neat the same way people buy Robins or Mustangs, fine.

If you buy it because you think you're saving energy or doing something for the environment I'm going to laugh at you.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 09, 2021 11:56 AM (/6kZi)

356 327 The first couple years of MASH were fine, then Alda took over and started splooging his leftism all over the place.
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Yep, the more creative control Alda got, the worse the show became. And his character was pretty insufferable too. Hawkeye was a self-righteous, hypocritical, egotistical jerk who thought he was smarter and better than everybody else.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at November 09, 2021 11:56 AM (k4dH2)

357 >>>At how close he was to Kyle, I bet more than that on him.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 11:44 AM (ynpvh)

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Stomach also, from gunshot to left thigh, the one that missed taking off his pecker by an inch. None apparently from the shot that grazed right side of his head. None on back, apparently due to clothing stopping. Prosecution just finished direct of ME. I think the ME said (I'm paraphrasing) the soot and injury to hand was consistent with hand being on or in contact with the barrel. You could almost see the ADA wince when the ME said that.

Posted by: Turn Two at November 09, 2021 11:56 AM (yk3T/)

358
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 09, 2021 11:52 AM (bVYXr)

I believe one (strong) possibility is that they knew there was no case, and hoped to flood the zone with trial-by-media, overcharge the hell out of him, break Rittenhouse's will, and force him to accept a plea deal. But it didn't work, and he went to trial instead. So they sent the most hated and incompetent rookie in their government-run shitshow of a law firm down to take the "L" for the team.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2021 11:56 AM (/KPLX)

359 t's not graft, it's neofeudalism. The end goal is to reserve 24/7 utilities for the ruling class.

You see this already in the UK and EU where they're telling people they need to "adjust" to the idea that they won't have power 24 hours a day.

It's all a combination of rubbing our faces in it, raising the drawbridge on social mobility, increasing the size of their stick and also the attractiveness of their carrots. Determining who gets full time access to utilities and doesn't have to eat the bugs is a sure way to ensure loyalty in the security apparatus.
==
Neofeudalism is the best case scenario. Imagine the devils of hell in complete control of society.

Posted by: Enough of you sunny optimism at November 09, 2021 11:56 AM (x+caK)

360 You DO realize they have batteries in them?

Wrong. They have a little pouch which stores the photons until needed.

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:57 AM (ZsR3z)

361 It's not just density. The covalent bonds of hydrocarbon molecules are some of the most accessible energy found in nature.

I'm sitting right here, doncha know!
Posted by: Ionic bonds at November 09, 2021 11:15 AM (w9Wax)

This is what happens when you ban math on the blog. The chem geeks start spouting off.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at November 09, 2021 11:57 AM (EjmvJ)

362 351 how many fritos would a big boy locomotive require to haul a load of freight from ogden, utah to casper, wyoming?
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda

One 24 oz bag. Since the route is generally downhill, gravity will do all of the work.

nope. the downhill path is the other way, which is why they needed the big boys in the first place.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:57 AM (sGtp+)

363 Sounds like the idealized cow.

*****

Thanks, Ben Rothlisburger!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:57 AM (m45I2)

364 "336 I am reading some articles about the prosecution witnesses in the rittenhouse trial and I have come to believe the prosecutor is trying to tank the trial on purpose. For what reason(s) I have no clue, but he couldn't be this stupid. Each and every witness the State has called has proven to be an absolute disaster for the prosecutor, and that is with hours and hours of witness prep.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 09, 2021 11:52 AM (bVYXr)"

You're not thinking evil enough.

This is just a variation on the formula they used for Martin/Brown/Floyd/etc - play up a big outrage they know is bullshit and they know their opponents will oppose. If they win convictions - great. If they don't - also great, time to riot. It's a win-win tactic. And here you even get a bonus in potentially eliminating a bunch of blatantly incompetent white city justice functionaries and replacing them with more diverse stooges.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 09, 2021 11:57 AM (Z7rbj)

365 Shakespeare said "all the world's a stage"

Brandon said "all the world's a toilet"

Posted by: JT at November 09, 2021 11:57 AM (arJlL)

366 It survived the loss of its main antagonist and person-we-love-to-hate, Frank Burns, with the addition of Maj. Winchester. I maintain that their Christmas 1980 episode with a grand moment for Charles and Klinger, is a classic.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:55 AM (txdEq)

As overrated as I thought that MASH was, even at the time, the character of Charles Emerson Winchester was one of the more enduring on TV. Definitely the precursor to Frasier Crane, another great TV character.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2021 11:58 AM (EU//e)

367 Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2021 11:54 AM (w9Wax)

So the train would have to carry nothing but Fritos to make the trip, and would be empty by the time it got to the destination.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 11:58 AM (o2MD2)

368 Assume a spherical comedienne...

Posted by: Amy Schumer at November 09, 2021 11:58 AM (m45I2)

369 "What's your cost and did you get any subsidies?" Posted by: squid_hunt

$14K, plus probably $2500 more in other parts. This is a hybrid system that can easily add a generator or even go grid-tie ... Schneider Electric ... mostly. REC panels.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 09, 2021 11:58 AM (Cus5s)

370 4 Windmills forever!! And trains! And trains powered by windmills!!
Posted by: brak at November 09, 2021 11:02 AM (FAP8n)

And Unicorn Farts (they're the GOOD kind...)!

Posted by: Flyover at November 09, 2021 11:58 AM (Rbu5d)

371 360 You DO realize they have batteries in them?

Wrong. They have a little pouch which stores the photons until needed.

problem being that if you get the mirrors in the pouch properly aligned, it turns into a laser.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:58 AM (v3pYe)

372 I don't mind electric cars. They're neat toys, especially Teslas.

**

I'm the same way regarding them as cars. If you're buying it because it's neat the same way people buy Robins or Mustangs, fine.

If you buy it because you think you're saving energy or doing something for the environment I'm going to laugh at you.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Especially when they use coal to recharge them.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 11:58 AM (RR8iF)

373 Well, fuck. via AP (h/t Lucianne)

Tacoma, Wash. -- A metallurgist in Washington state pleaded guilty to fraud Monday after she spent decades faking the results of strength tests on steel that was being used to make U.S. Navy submarines. Elaine Marie Thomas, 67, of Auburn, Washington, was the director of metallurgy at a foundry in Tacoma that supplied steel castings used by Navy contractors Electric Boat and Newport News Shipbuilding to make submarine hulls. From 1985 through 2017, Thomas falsified the results of strength and toughness tests for at least 240 productions of steel-- about half the steel the foundry produced for the Navy, according to her plea agreement, filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Tacoma.

That's just great. Sigh.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM (F0YaR)

374 354 I haven't followed the Rittenhouse trial, but I did wonder yesterday skimming Ace's links if some assistant prosecutor was assigned the case and decided to go for exposing the truth rather than what the political boss wanted.
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Nah, the prosecutors on the case are just inept.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM (k4dH2)

375 Wrong. They have a little pouch which stores the photons until needed.
Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 11:57 AM (ZsR3z)

You gotcher degree from Florida International University, dintcha?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM (ZSK0i)

376 Okay, I'm out of here. That brisket ain't going to smoke itself. Hasta lambada you bunch of numbskulls!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM (m45I2)

377 Leftists don't want you to have energy, and you can go get screwed if you don't like it.

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM

You notice the elites say "you will own nothing and you will like it" and not "we will own nothing and we will like it".

Rules for thee (you), not for me (elites).

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM (Do5/p)

378 What few manufacturing plants GE will has in the USA shall be sent to china and the new green era GE will begin.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM (iDcra)

379 You see this already in the UK and EU where they're telling people they need to "adjust" to the idea that they won't have power 24 hours a day.

It's Traditional!

Your social betters will have generators, of course..

Posted by: Your Third World Electric Company! at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM (I2/tG)

380 BTW, I have stood next to an actual Big Boy. They are truly fucking big. Make two diesel electrics for sure.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM (o2MD2)

381 'So you need 1000 times the weight of Fritos to power that Big Boy, compared to coal.'

For how long and under what load?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 09, 2021 12:00 PM (q3iUt)

382

Hey, how come this coffee tastes like jizz?

Well, yeah, I know that. I mean besides that...

Posted by: Don Lemonparty at November 09, 2021 12:00 PM (qJPKL)

383 You DO realize they have batteries in them?

.....

Yes.

I forget the Horde is at times pedantic.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 09, 2021 12:00 PM (KbDLH)

384 MASH was pure leftard bullshit. I hated it.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 11:50 AM (o2MD2)

When I was teaching at the Army's Intelligence School in Arizona, I tried to get an autographed picture of COL Flagg (played by Ed Winter) to put over my desk with the infamous words "I keep myself in a constant state of confusion so if I am captured I will be of no use to the enemy." Sadly I never received one.
I did later get one from Bonita Friedericy who played the boss at NSA on the Chuck tv show. She sent me two, and I sent one to a former Commander of NSA...an old boss of mine. He laughed.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 09, 2021 12:00 PM (axyOa)

385 Elaine Marie Thomas

Challenger Deep awaits you

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 12:00 PM (B8kNI)

386 re: Rittenhouse case forensics and the bald pedo's powder burns;

A very easy but not very well known (outside of formal training) method to prevent being relieved of your long arm is to let the opponent grab the barrel, then simply take a knee and let your superior leverage rotate the muzzle towards their hips/abdomen.

It's very nearly foolproof against someone who hasn't trained against it and only requires strength in retaining your grip on the weapon..

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 09, 2021 12:00 PM (Z7rbj)

387 M*A*S*H needs to be cancelled, a character named Spearchucker Jones?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021

***
I think he was in the movie. The TV series got rid of him and Lt. Dish, the hot nurse, very early.

There was an ep with Hawkeye having nightmares. Radar is worried about him. Col. Potter says, "There was a fellow called David a long time ago, who handled a pretty big guy called Goliath."

Radar says quietly, "But David wasn't afraid to go to sleep at night. . . ."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 12:00 PM (txdEq)

388 Take 2...

Leftists don't want you to have energy, and you can go get screwed if you don't like it.

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 09, 2021 11:08 AM

You notice the elites say "you will own nothing and you will like it" and not "we will own nothing and we will like it".

Rules for thee (you), not for me (elites).

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2021 12:00 PM (Do5/p)

389 >>>Wrong. They have a little pouch which stores the photons until needed.

Just like the kangaroos...

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 09, 2021 12:01 PM (VWp7G)

390
I did wonder yesterday skimming Ace's links if some assistant prosecutor was assigned the case and decided to go for exposing the truth rather than what the political boss wanted.

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There is no such thing as an ethical government lawyer.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2021 12:01 PM (/KPLX)

391 One 24 oz bag. Since the route is generally downhill, gravity will do all of the work.

nope. the downhill path is the other way, which is why they needed the big boys in the first place.
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda

Uh, didcha notice the education of the writer?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021 12:01 PM (mD/uy)

392 The idea was that it would be more compact and have higher power output than the pressurized water reactor.
A lot of problems with this technology aboard ship.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 09, 2021 11:52 AM (vcOmj)

biggest problem being that if it was ever shut down, it turned into one big leaden brick which was radioactive. It couldn't even be turned off for important servicing - when servicing was needed, it would be turned down to it's lowest setting and some poor schmuck was sent in to work on it while it was still operating.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2021 12:01 PM (trdmm)

393 10 years after the LA-SF (400 miles) high speed rail line construction started, still nowhere near completion.

Meanwhile in that time span China has built like 20,000 miles of high speed rail.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 12:01 PM (OalnH)

394 Re: Colonel Flagg

"The wind has fallen and broken its arm".

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 09, 2021 12:01 PM (ZSK0i)

395 Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2021 11:54 AM (w9Wax)
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Food calories are Kcals.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 09, 2021 12:01 PM (AlkyK)

396 Later, Muldoon !

Posted by: JT at November 09, 2021 12:02 PM (arJlL)

397 You notice the elites say "you will own nothing and you will like it" and not "we will own nothing and we will like it".

Rules for thee (you), not for me (elites).

The "you will like it" part implies that those that don't like it will end up in a mass grave somewhere. Totalitarianism never changes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 09, 2021 12:02 PM (SchxB)

398 As overrated as I thought that MASH was, even at the time, the character of Charles Emerson Winchester was one of the more enduring on TV. Definitely the precursor to Frasier Crane, another great TV character.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 09, 2021

***
They are quite a bit alike, aren't they? Charles was painted as more of a snob. Frasier was too, but things pierced his little bubble in nearly every episode. But you could imagine them having a drink at a members-only club once in a while.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 12:03 PM (txdEq)

399 Subsidy ... I think there is still a 26% (?) fed subsidy off my 2021 taxes. I don't think Illinois offers anything since I'm doing it myself ... they may help contractors that put in systems.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 09, 2021 12:03 PM (Cus5s)

400 395 Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2021 11:54 AM (w9Wax)
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Food calories are Kcals.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 09, 2021 12:01 PM (AlkyK)

So Frito power is viable.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 12:03 PM (o2MD2)

401 Can Rittenhouse sue everybody involved for malicious prosecution? Including the FIB.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 09, 2021 12:03 PM (iDcra)

402 BTW, I have stood next to an actual Big Boy. They are truly fucking big. Make two diesel electrics for sure.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM (o2MD2)

But the diesel-electrics are pretty awesome too, and produce almost as much power.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2021 12:03 PM (Q9lwr)

403 Thanksgiving approaches

Will Bidet pardon the turkey on live TV or on his fake pre-recorded set?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 12:03 PM (B8kNI)

404 That DenBeste post on why "green" energy doesn't scale should be taught in schools.

And we called her "Dixie Lee Radiation" when she was guv.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 09, 2021 12:03 PM (5HBd1)

405 This is what happens when you ban math on the blog. The chem geeks start spouting off.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at November 09, 2021 11:57 AM (EjmvJ)

And some of the chemists have a heavy math background.

There is no escape.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 09, 2021 12:04 PM (ZSK0i)

406 401 Can Rittenhouse sue everybody involved for malicious prosecution? Including the FIB.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 09, 2021 12:03 PM (iDcra)

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Sure he can sue. Will he win? LOL. No.

Posted by: Justice System at November 09, 2021 12:04 PM (OalnH)

407 Food calories are Kcals.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea
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And stupidity is in milliKohns.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 09, 2021 12:04 PM (iDcra)

408 Calculus isn't really math when you think about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

409 I did wonder yesterday skimming Ace's links if some assistant prosecutor was assigned the case and decided to go for exposing the truth rather than what the political boss wanted.
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There is no such thing as an ethical government lawyer.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2021 12:01 PM (/KPLX)

Several have been saying that, but nope, this Prosecutor is a True Believer who also is totally incompetent at his job. The fatal flaw for Wokesters operating in a Woke World is that it's easy to collect credentials, but when they're put on the spot and have to perform a task in public that actually requires some skill, they fail miserably. All leftists are empty suits, only pretending that they know how to do the jobs they hold.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2021 12:04 PM (trdmm)

410 Nah, the prosecutors on the case are just inept.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM (k4dH2)

Not even inept- they have bad facts and people on their side of the case. You have two pedophiles dead and a communist agitator 'medic' (who never renders medical aid to anyone) as victims. They are chasing the accused like a pack of wolves chasing a bear with an M-16. The bear killed or neutralized them all (and ONLY them, not any random bystander.) The Bear is also seen on endless video shouting/asking if anyone needs medical attention and does it several times over the course of the night, while the wolves shout at the injured people NOT to accept medical attention from the Bear. Who comes off as more sympathetic, Bear or Wolves?

My metaphor might be a little tortured there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 09, 2021 12:05 PM (csEWM)

411 Most overrated show? Easily Mash.

Boring, trite, and gentry left approved

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2021 12:05 PM (ESjRY)

412 : Colonel Flagg

"The wind has fallen and broken its arm".
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 09, 2021

***
There was one Col. Flagg episode where he showed what a nut he really was. BJ and Hawkeye are chattering away about something, trying to distract him, and suddenly Flagg pulls his .45, racks the slide, and says in a coldly furious voice, "This is my mission and I *will* execute it," or something like that. He stopped being a buffoon in that moment and became something much, much scarier.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 12:05 PM (txdEq)

413 393 10 years after the LA-SF (400 miles) high speed rail line construction started, still nowhere near completion.

Meanwhile in that time span China has built like 20,000 miles of high speed rail.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 12:01 PM (OalnH)

Come on... North Fresno near Highway 99 is a GREAT Mile long Bridge to nowhere! Its Yuge !

Now, can't figure out why its so long or so high off the ground... as there is NOTHING but a small river under it... but...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 09, 2021 12:05 PM (oHd/0)

414 Okay, I'm out of here. That brisket ain't going to smoke itself. Hasta lambada you bunch of numbskulls!
Posted by: Muldoon at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM (m45I2)

Brisket? Living high on the cow there. Have a good cook!

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at November 09, 2021 12:05 PM (4I/2K)

415 Re building rail - China has no EPA, no union labor, no litigation over domain - easy peasy!

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at November 09, 2021 12:06 PM (QZ/dC)

416 Well there are two on the state side tag-teaming themselves to failure - Binger and Kraus.

Kraus even whined at the judge.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 12:06 PM (B8kNI)

417 "But that is a price the elites are willing for you to pay."

Ah: government by Lord Farquaad.

Posted by: Rowsdower Persists in Insisting Ashli Babbitt Is Crispus Attucks at November 09, 2021 12:06 PM (hzaX9)

418 Oh, and after shooting the first pedophile wolf, the Bear immediately went to the police to turn himself in, told the wolves that and they STILL pursued him.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 09, 2021 12:06 PM (csEWM)

419 408 Calculus isn't really math when you think about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

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It is integral to the study of many things though.

Posted by: Justice System at November 09, 2021 12:06 PM (OalnH)

420 Well, fuck. via AP (h/t Lucianne)

Tacoma, Wash. -- A metallurgist in Washington state pleaded guilty to fraud Monday after she spent decades faking the results of strength tests on steel that was being used to make U.S. Navy submarines. Elaine Marie Thomas, 67, of Auburn, Washington, was the director of metallurgy at a foundry in Tacoma that supplied steel castings used by Navy contractors Electric Boat and Newport News Shipbuilding to make submarine hulls. From 1985 through 2017, Thomas falsified the results of strength and toughness tests for at least 240 productions of steel-- about half the steel the foundry produced for the Navy, according to her plea agreement, filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Tacoma.

That's just great. Sigh.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM

Why? Was some nefarious person/government paying her to fake the tests? And where was the QC person? I can't believe she was the only one testing that steel. We don't do single point failures in the military, at least we didn't used to.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (bVYXr)

421 Off Justice System sock

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (OalnH)

422 Kraus even whined at the judge.

I would think that NOT doing that is covered in the first day of law school.

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (ZsR3z)

423 Andrew Branca (Law of Self Defense
@LawSelfDefense) has a running commentary on the Rittenhouse trial...

https://tinyurl.com/ygtlcwws

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (cF8AT)

424 Meanwhile in that time span China has built like 20,000 miles of high speed rail.
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*points, laughs*

Posted by: Look, its Tom Friedman at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (mTQ02)

425 403 Thanksgiving approaches

Will Bidet pardon the turkey on live TV or on his fake pre-recorded set?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 12:03 PM (B8kNI)

I thought preznits (even fake ones) couldn't pardon themeselves.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (ynpvh)

426 @284

>>20 million illegal aliens here ... each and every years since.

Well, seeing as there have been mass amnesties programs beside the one in '86 and since the Uniparty and administrative state want as many illegals to be normalized as possible, there may be only 11-20 million illegals here at any time.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (P75sc)

427 Aetius, I called them a pack of savages

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (B8kNI)

428 408 Calculus isn't really math when you think about it.

i try not to think about math. it makes my head hurt. logic at least has the decency to make sense. math pretends to be logic, but isn't.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (oY6Yp)

429 Partially true. The solution is nuclear power for the next 40 to 50 years, while we build out Solar Power Satellites (SPS).
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2021 11:30 AM (a3Q+t)

The extension cords are gonna be a bitch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (P3gRi)

430 415 Re building rail - China has no EPA, no union labor, no litigation over domain - easy peasy!
Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at November 09, 2021 12:06 PM (QZ/dC)

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Yep. That was what I was getting at. Even with 3X the fraud of CA, they can build this shit out in no time.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (OalnH)

431 411 Most overrated show? Easily Mash.

Boring, trite, and gentry left approved
Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2021 12:05 PM (ESjRY)

Also: the older you get, the less funny it gets. I cannot imagine how it was for our parents and grandparents who actually experienced war (and those wars in particular.) TV shooting shit faced anger.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (csEWM)

432 424 Meanwhile in that time span China has built like 20,000 miles of high speed rail.
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*points, laughs*
Posted by: Look, its Tom Friedman at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (mTQ02)

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They've also built ghost cities that will rot before a single person lives in them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 12:08 PM (LvTSG)

433 I'm the same way regarding them as cars. If you're buying it because it's neat the same way people buy Robins or Mustangs, fine.

If you buy it because you think you're saving energy or doing something for the environment I'm going to laugh at you.

I really, really enjoy the hardcore Tesla fans' REEEEing about the Rich Rebuilds V8 Tesla. Chevy LS3 in the front, sequential manual shifter, and all of the Tesla screen functions still work. The gas filler is even exactly where the charge port was, so it looks completely OEM on the outside.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2021 12:08 PM (ZGrMX)

434 Really good, but damn...King needed an editor. I don't mean the length (I read the unabridged version), but he needed someone to tell him that he was getting lost in the politics of the Free Zone, that one scene with Dayna in Vegas to help sell her fate just wasn't enough, and that he was leaving a heap of interesting nuance on the table by essentially ignoring Vegas' workings for hundreds of pages.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 11:52 AM (LvTSG)

I always suggest folks start with the abridged version of The Stand for just that reason. Then, if you love it, seek out the uncut doorstopper.

I still think it should be two novels.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Dune 2021 review at November 09, 2021 12:08 PM (XvPQV)

435 Algebra is a curve, Calculus is the area under said curve.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 12:08 PM (o2MD2)

436 427 Aetius, I called them a pack of savages
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (B8kNI)

Yeah, I like wolves generally and they are usually not this stupid.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 09, 2021 12:08 PM (csEWM)

437 408 Calculus isn't really math when you think about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

Take it, to the limit, one more tiiiime...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 12:08 PM (ynpvh)

438 415 Re building rail - China has no EPA, no union labor, no litigation over domain - easy peasy!
Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at November 09, 2021 12:06 PM (QZ/dC)

No building codes.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 09, 2021 12:08 PM (G2zl5)

439 He stopped being a buffoon in that moment and became something much, much scarier.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 12:05 PM (txdEq)

Thankfully they didn't chase that thread to any degree.

Flagg: "You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 09, 2021 12:09 PM (ZSK0i)

440 Who comes off as more sympathetic, Bear or Wolves?

My metaphor might be a little tortured there.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 09, 2021 12:05 PM (csEWM

The communist "medic" did his part to kill the case yesterday when he was forced to admit, under oath, that he had lied about crucial facts in almost every filing and statement he had made since the incident happened. (his preferred version of what happened is completely contradicted by the video evidence of what happened)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2021 12:09 PM (trdmm)

441 Polly-atchy, the love of opera
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 11:15 AM (txdEq)

SO darn funny!

Posted by: Flyover at November 09, 2021 12:09 PM (Rbu5d)

442 They've also built ghost cities that will rot before a single person lives in them.

Some of them don't even get the chance to rot. They're torn down before anyone ever lives in them. Now that's what I call an efficient allocation of resources.

Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 12:09 PM (ZsR3z)

443 They've also built ghost cities that will rot before a single person lives in them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 12:08 PM (LvTSG)

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Those were just the Chinese version of make work projects. They're already getting torn down in a lot of places.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 12:09 PM (OalnH)

444 Nood

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at November 09, 2021 12:09 PM (OeWGu)

445 434 I always suggest folks start with the abridged version of The Stand for just that reason. Then, if you love it, seek out the uncut doorstopper.

I still think it should be two novels.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Dune 2021 review at November 09, 2021 12:08 PM (XvPQV)

========

The collection of King books I downloaded ages ago onto my old Sony eReader only had the unabridged version. I'm kind of terrified of it falling apart if I do anything with it other than read, so I'm just gonna settle with what I got. Next, The Long Walk.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

446 It is integral to the study of many things though.
Posted by: Justice System

I can see how you derived that.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 09, 2021 12:09 PM (mD/uy)

447 @ArtValley818_

Protest against Covid mandates in New Zealand

https://tinyurl.com/yhfqa92r

This is great! Maori chant!

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2021 12:09 PM (cF8AT)

448 i try not to think about math. it makes my head hurt. logic at least has the decency to make sense. math pretends to be logic, but isn't.
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 12:07 PM (oY6Yp)

Fundamental math is logic. The more advanced it becomes, the more like magic it becomes.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 09, 2021 12:09 PM (o2MD2)

449 Really good, but damn...King needed an editor.

That's a true statement for almost every one of King's books.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2021 12:10 PM (ZGrMX)

450 The calculus, its formal name, isn't math? Why the hell did I have to take 4 semesters of it in engineering school?

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at November 09, 2021 12:10 PM (QZ/dC)

451 Actually, there's much more opportunity for graft in big projects. Think of all the studies they have to do, before anything is built.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 09, 2021 12:10 PM (5HBd1)

452 Also: the older you get, the less funny it gets. I cannot imagine how it was for our parents and grandparents who actually experienced war (and those wars in particular.) TV shooting shit faced anger.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 09, 2021

***
My mother, a long-time registered nurse, loved the show. There's an early ep where Hawkeye and Trapper stick Frank's hand while he's sleeping into a helmet of warm water, and he pisses himself. Mom exclaimed, "They must have had a nurse to advise them on that. No doctor would know that trick!"

The series was less about fighting the war and more about the doctors and nurses caught in the middle of it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 12:10 PM (txdEq)

453 nood
masks forever

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Dune 2021 review at November 09, 2021 12:11 PM (XvPQV)

454 450 The calculus, its formal name, isn't math? Why the hell did I have to take 4 semesters of it in engineering school?

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at November 09, 2021 12:10 PM (QZ/dC)

I did too, but took an extra semester for the fun of it to complete my requirements. Just don't ask me to integrate over the complex plane or do heat equations, as I've long forgotten how to do it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2021 12:12 PM (ynpvh)

455 Fundamental math is logic. The more advanced it becomes, the more like magic it becomes.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

That's why they call them "theoretical physicists".

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2021 12:12 PM (RR8iF)

456 Written by a white man and only for white men.

You are a little too stiff ...here...drink this.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at November 09, 2021 12:12 PM (CwAXE)

457 Really good, but damn...King needed an editor.

That's a true statement for almost every one of King's books.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2021

***
The stuff he published in his first decade was all pretty tightly written as edited. (Though he himself calls his tendency to overwrite "literary elephantiasis.") Salem's Lot, Firestarter, The Dead Zone, and the 4 novelettes in Different Seasons are all dynamite.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 09, 2021 12:13 PM (txdEq)

458 442 They've also built ghost cities that will rot before a single person lives in them.

Some of them don't even get the chance to rot. They're torn down before anyone ever lives in them. Now that's what I call an efficient allocation of resources.
Posted by: pep at November 09, 2021 12:09 PM (ZsR3z)

I just saw something that they have this like three skyscraper apartment complex that looks beautiful. They put like trees and gardens on every balcony. So it kind of has that nature reclaiming the city look to it. Like 4 families moved in. Because mosquitoes overran the place and it's unbearable.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 09, 2021 12:13 PM (G2zl5)

459 You notice the elites say "you will own nothing and you will like it" and not "we will own nothing and we will like it".

Rules for thee (you), not for me (elites).
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2021 11:59 AM (Do5/p)

It'll be fine. There will be periodic drawings where some lucky individual will be selected to fight for their district, and if they win they'll be showered with gifts and other luxuries.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at November 09, 2021 12:13 PM (VGRuw)

460 They've also built ghost cities that will rot before a single person lives in them.

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Those were just the Chinese version of make work projects. They're already getting torn down in a lot of places
==
Just keepin the proles busy until its time for a real job. Such efficiency eh Tom?

Posted by: Look, its Tom Friedman at November 09, 2021 12:13 PM (mTQ02)

461 Any grannies not murdered with all the COVID bs will now freeze to death, unable to afford heating bills for their homes. Liberalism always entails, and encourages, death for the most vulnerable.

Posted by: Carmenzoid at November 09, 2021 12:15 PM (9sa5h)

462 408 Calculus isn't really math when you think about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 09, 2021 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

At this point, what differential does it make?

Posted by: Hillary von Leibnitz at November 09, 2021 12:15 PM (w9Wax)

463 I just saw something that they have this like three skyscraper apartment complex that looks beautiful. They put like trees and gardens on every balcony. So it kind of has that nature reclaiming the city look to it. Like 4 families moved in. Because mosquitoes overran the place and it's unbearable.
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Hey, c'mon we'll just convert those to prison housing. Easy Peasy.

Posted by: Look, its Tom Friedman at November 09, 2021 12:15 PM (mTQ02)

464 I loved MASH in its first run but I find it unendurable now.
But, then, there are very few old comedies that I genuinely enjoy today.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 09, 2021 12:18 PM (cSyAR)

465 It is integral to the study of many things though.
Posted by: Justice System at November 09, 2021 12:06 PM (OalnH)

Derivative thinking there pal...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 09, 2021 12:19 PM (BgMrQ)

466 Doesn't matter. Modular nuclear reactors is referring to pre-approved designs for reactors that can be easily designed and built for cheap like the Westinghouse AP 1000 design, which, by the way, has been built all over the middle east and china while South Carolina tanked theirs and Georgia can't get theirs started up. Beautiful 2 reactor in one unit design, PWRs, 1100 MW.

https://www.westinghousenuclear.com/new-plants/ap1000-pwr
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 09, 2021 11:53 AM (Ectld)

I am in no way opposed to that idea. Build standardized, pre-approved stuff that works. But don't hitch that cart to the thorium donkey.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2021 12:23 PM (P3gRi)

467 The caloric content of a food is determined by actually burning the food in a calorimeter.

100 grams of Fritos = 571 calories
100 grams of coal = 576.2 Kilocalories

So you need 1000 times the weight of Fritos to power that Big Boy, compared to coal.

*I did the maths so you don't have to!
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2021 11:54 AM (w9Wax)

Except dietary calories are kilocalories. So a ton of Fritos is almost as energy-dense as a ton of coal. But would occupy a lot more space.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2021 12:25 PM (P3gRi)

468
But the diesel-electrics are pretty awesome too, and produce almost as much power.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2021 12:03 PM (Q9lwr)

Diesel electrics far outpace steam. The GE locomotives produce 4400hp each. But the main problem with propelling trains is not all horsepower.

Much of the criteria for efficiency is in tractive force and power to weight. Oh, and maintenance.

Steam loses on all those elements.

Posted by: My name is Jose Jimanez at November 09, 2021 12:29 PM (Fs5vw)

469 They have a little pouch which stores the photons until needed.

If you squeeze it, it gets brighter

But, then, there are very few old comedies that I genuinely enjoy today.

Taxi holds up really well. Not many of the old comedies do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 09, 2021 12:31 PM (KZzsI)

470 The "you will like it" part implies that those that don't like it will end up in a mass grave somewhere. Totalitarianism never changes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 09, 2021 12:02 PM

Kinda like when we were young...

Kid: But I want pancakes!
Mom: Well, you're not getting pancakes. You'll eat your oatmeal and you will like it!

Taking the totalitarianism of mothers and spreading it across the world into every aspect of everyone's lives.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2021 12:33 PM (Do5/p)

471 "But, then, there are very few old comedies that I genuinely enjoy today."

Cheers holds up surprisingly well, especially the first season. Some episodes could've come straight from Howard Hawks.

Posted by: Rowsdower Persists in Insisting Ashli Babbitt Is Crispus Attucks at November 09, 2021 12:36 PM (hzaX9)

472 The world ran on 'green energy' for most of man's time on this Earth. It was also a vastly poorer place.

Posted by: aelfheld at November 09, 2021 12:37 PM (Zy9Yy)

473 Greetings:

So long, Schnectady ???

Posted by: 11B40 at November 09, 2021 12:37 PM (uuklp)

474 I once interviewed for a steel plant that was literally across the river from a nuke plant and had a direct tap, as that was necessary to their power requirements.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at November 09, 2021 12:38 PM (ThYKm)

475 "The world ran on 'green energy' for most of man's time on this Earth. It was also a vastly poorer place."

Yeah. This time it'll be greener, though. You won't be allowed to burn wood or poo, either.

Posted by: Rowsdower Persists in Insisting Ashli Babbitt Is Crispus Attucks at November 09, 2021 12:38 PM (hzaX9)

476 Thread stomp?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at November 09, 2021 12:46 PM (CjHGv)

477 The next thread was there a second ago. I know. I was there.

Posted by: My name is Jose Jimanez at November 09, 2021 12:47 PM (Fs5vw)

478 373, 420.

Thinking about the loss of the USS Thresher in 1963 and the Navy's Submarine Safety Program (SUBSAFE), a quality assurance program of the US Navy designed to maintain the safety of its submarine fleet. (Maximum reasonable assurance that submarine hulls will stay watertight and that they can recover from unanticipated flooding.)

So, apparently that program has been flawed, too.

Posted by: Lola at November 09, 2021 01:04 PM (VQp1G)

479 used to be a show on pbs that illustrated energy usage with jelly doughnuts. show always ended with a bonfire made from the jelly doughnuts they had used in the episode.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at November 09, 2021 11:56 AM

The episode with the "Van of Eratosthenes" measuring the size of the earth was better.

"The Ring of Truth" created by Phillip Morrison

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 09, 2021 02:52 PM (dqP+A)

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