Gun Thread: Howdy From Texas Edition!

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Q: Guess who is deep in the Heart of Texas?
A: Weasel! Weasel are deep in the heart of Texas!!

That's right, I am writing this on Tuesday after arriving at the beautiful ranch belonging to Rancher Bob and Cow Horse Queen late Monday afternoon. The trip down is a full two days, and although it's a pretty drive, there is a lot of it! Anyhoo, went to dinner last night with Ben Had, RB, and CHQ, then sat around an outdoor fire solving the problems of the word and catching up since last year. They are truly wonderful people, and other than displaying the questionable intelligence of inviting me into their home, are the kind of folks I'm proud to have as friends.

Anyhoo, as you are reading this Sunday I will be on my way back to Virginia with another incredible Texas MoMe in the books. We'll have laughed, and we'll have cried. We'll have eaten, drinken, and been merry. Since I am writing this in advance I will not have time to include details of the MoMe, but you are welcome to discuss all the fun in the comments below this evening, and I will include a Post MoMe Discussion & Analysis section next week!

Post TXMoMe Sunday Update: Made it to Nashville. Ho-lee Shitballs!!! How much fun was that?!?! I'm still trying to absorb the events of the last few days, and I'm still pretty much speechless after last evening. You all are the BEST, and I love you all. I will have a more complete thank you next Sunday!

With that, let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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Re-Run O' Rama!
I hinted at this last Sunday, but I need to put this together sort of quickly so we can start preparing later today for the TXMoMe beginning Friday. I have decided I am best suited for a supervisory role which does not involve a lot of actual work, so after unloading guns n' ammo n' my lawn chair from the car, I'll pretty much finished with my part of the process and will be patiently waiting on everyone else to hurry the hell up with their stuff. Supervisin' is hard work!

For those of you attending, the weather forecast is just about perfect. Daytime highs in the 80s and evenings in the 60s with a breeze which can make it cool. Also, breezy during the day which will give us some interesting wind problems to solve on the range!

I am really looking forward to everyone getting here, saying hello and doing some shooting together! Hurry up, Y'all!

Gun Thread: November 4, 2018

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1999 Springfield Armory, Inc. M1A Loaded Model

I have to admit I think this may be my favorite rifle. I just like everything about it. It's well balanced, fun to shoot, fun to look at, sort of fun to clean (not really), and makes it seem like I know what I'm doing on a rifle range. Pointy end downrange, right?

The M1A is the semi-automatic civilian version of the M14. Chambered in .308 Winchester or 7.62x51mm NATO, the fully automatic M14 was introduced as a replacement for the M1 Garand beginning in 1959, and served as the U.S. battle rifle until the arrival of the M16 around 1964. The M14 continues to be used by specialized units to this day.

In 1974, Springfield Armory, Inc., a private corporation headquartered in Genesco, IL., began production of the M1A. Offering several different models with an array of features; the M1A remains popular with competitive shooters, marksmen, hunters and sportsmen alike. The M1A 'Loaded' model pictured above includes as standard a number of match grade components including a National Match barrel, front and rear sights and two stage military trigger. Although not standard on the Loaded model, this particular rifle has a custom bedding job and was very clearly someone's well cared for match rifle. Although I haven't done any scientific measuring, with decent ammo off a bench I think this is probably very close to a 1 MOA rifle. Did I mention it was fun to shoot?

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Although very small physical and pressure differences do exist, .308 Winchester and 7.62x51mm NATO ammunition is interchangeable, with the .308 Win developing slightly higher pressure. Over the years, the military has produced M80 Ball, M118 Match and M852 NATO Match ammunition to varying degrees of accuracy. Unfortunately, military loads are often driven by the economics of component availability, with accuracy sometimes becoming a secondary consideration. Whether you're shooting surplus, commercial or handloaded ammunition, look for a bullet weight in the 168 gr to 175 gr range, and a muzzle velocity around 2600 fps for best performance.

2021 Update : Here is a video I made at the farm shooting this rifle

Did I bring this rifle to Texas? No, unfortunately I am not that smart. Maybe next year!

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Gun Thread: November 11, 2018

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Interesting Variation on Classic IWB Carry


Anyone else use the Advanced Lower Back Muzzle Peekaboo style for concealed carry?

A few weeks ago we talked about buying a first gun, and today I'd like to discuss carry permits and carrying a weapon.

I firmly believe that the single best carry gun in the universe is the one you actually have with you when you need it. Regardless of caliber, sights, custom trigger and all the rest, the gun you left at home in your sock drawer isn't going to do you a whole lot of good when the unexpected occurs. This is why some gun owners get a concealed weapon permit and then carry a concealed weapon.

Before we begin the usual banter and fun commentary, a serious note:
Not everyone wants or needs to carry a gun, and if you aren't comfortable doing so, then you are one who probably shouldn't consider it. I'd feel better if you did, but it's a big responsibility, and not something to ever be taken casually. Carrying a gun is a very serious business and needs to be treated as such. If the unthinkable occurs and God forbid you use a weapon to defend yourself or others, in the time it takes to pull the trigger you will have changed your life, and presumably the target's life, forever.

Think about that.

As I write this, reports are just coming in of another horrific mass shooting, this time at a nightclub in Thousand Oaks, California. What drove the person to commit such a heinous acts will probably never be known. However, I think it's safe to say we do know a couple of important facts; we will never be able to un-invent, or confiscate, all the guns, and just one properly trained and armed person in a crowd of hundreds would have at least had a chance to stop the massacre.

Think about that, too.

OK, end of Mr. Serious-Pants.

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The Permit
I live in Virginia, and like many states today, at one time it was nearly impossible to get a concealed carry permit here. Things have changed, and today as long as you pass a background check and can demonstrate competency with a firearm, you should be approved for a permit. For me the process was straightforward; submit fingerprints with an application, show that I'd attended a brief but practical course on the topic, and pay a fee to the city where I live. A few weeks later, the permit came in the mail. There are going to be some variables to the process based on where you live but Virginia is likely representative of other "shall issue" states, where one must only meet the criteria specified in the law and is not required to demonstrate a subjective 'need' to be considered for approval.

Do you have a permit? For those living in "may issue" states, what was the 'need' you specified and how were you required to support the claim?

What to Carry
You've gone through the process of obtaining a permit to carry a concealed weapon, and your next decision is likely what As I mentioned above, any gun is better than no gun. I would much rather be armed with some puny girly-man caliber handgun than relying on throwing bags of Fritos and Slim Jims at the bad guy holding up the gas station late at night. So which handgun is my carry gun, you ask? Well using my super-genius reasoning, they're all candidates, with varying degrees of suitability. My main carry gun is one designed for the job, a Kimber Compact Custom in 45 ACP with a 4 inch barrel.

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Kimber Compact Custom


Another handgun that I carry is a revolver, the S&W Model 686 in .357 Magnum with a 2 1/2 inch barrel. I carry this gun mostly at the farm with the first two or three cylinders loaded with rat or snake shot. Haven't had to use it yet.

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Smith & Wesson Model 686

The common element for both guns is absolute reliability and a short barrel, and I practice with them enough to hit the center of a target at a reasonable distance.

Which gun do you carry and why? Is bigger always better, or is comfort and concealability a greater consideration for you?

***How to Carry It***
Now you've gone through the process of obtaining a permit to carry a concealed weapon and found the ideal weapon to carry - so what are your options for carrying it around?

Most people like to use holsters, but other options do exist. Like a handbag or purse for girls, and the man bag or satchel (*snicker*) for boys. There's even a rig employing the under-bewb or frontal overhang region as a concealment area for the ladies (and some of the gentlemen). All sorts of contraptions exist to conceal a firearm, but in my opinion, the farther you get away from a simple and straightforward sidearm holster, the less useable the firearm becomes. Unless of course you're a super-badass quickdrawing mo-fo with cat-like reflexes, of which the internet breeds many. And don't forget that states have very specific definitions for weapons in vehicles and what is considered 'concealment' - know the laws wherever and however you travel.

I prefer Outside Waist Band (OWB) holsters over Inside Waist Band (IWB). They seem to be more comfortable to me, but both work. The best holster for you is the one that's comfortable FOR YOU, and isn't such a miserable experience you're tempted to leave the whole mess at home to begin with. Ask around and don't be surprised if you have to try a few over time to get one that feels right.

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I like these holsters - do you have a favorite brand or style?

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Let's stay with the November 2018 theme...

Novenber 18, 2018

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No worries - That'll buff out!

When it comes to ruining your day, this is a pretty effective way to do it.

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Today let's talk about getting a bigger bang than expected. Or a smaller bang than expected. Or pretty much any sort of result other than you expected.

Squib Loads and Barrel Blockages
Over the years, I have reloaded a lot of handgun and rifle ammunition, and have had a squib load block the barrel exactly once. When it happened, I could tell the recoil and sound were completely wrong and fortunately didn't pull the trigger again. After making the gun safe I took a peek and could see the bullet resting peacefully about 1/4 inch from the end of the barrel just waiting to cause a disaster. Ruh Roh!
What had happened is this; I was load testing and measuring muzzle velocity in a series of cartridges with decreasing powder charges, and although still above the published minimum, this particular round didn't make it out of the barrel. Muzzle velocity = 0 feet per second. Test concluded.

There are a couple of lessons here. First, pay attention to what the hell is going on while you're shooting. It is possible to become so focused on the target, and looking good for the range babes, that you lose sight of everything else. If something jams, or breaks, or sounds and feels different, stop pulling the trigger and investigate. If you're a new shooter and not quite sure what to do, put the gun down pointed in a safe direction and call over the RSO. Explain what you think is going on and let them help you. Second, be very careful when reloading. Things can go wrong even when you haven't done anything overtly retarded. I was trying to find a lower velocity accuracy node and while I was technically above the minimum published load, apparently the bullet didn't get the memo. If I hadn't realized what had happened, I could have turned an annoyance (tapping the bullet out later) into a big mess - ruining the barrel of a nice revolver, or worse.

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How is This Even Possible?

Here's an extremely lucky cat who just used up eleven lives and is fortunate to have only ruined a barrel. Hands and fingers and eyeballs are much more difficult to replace. Did someone really pull the trigger that many times, even stopping to reload the gun, without realizing something was wrong?

And speaking of reloading...

Big Reloading No-No: Double Charge or Wrong Powder
Reloading can be fun and a rewarding part of shooting. For competitive shooters it can be a necessity, and for normal people it can be an economical way to shoot more and not be totally dependent on retail ammunition supply. It can also turn a fun day at the range into a complete nightmare if you are not absolutely focused on the job at hand while at the reloading bench. I'm pretty cautious by nature, and even more so while I'm reloading. Just as there are safety rules to follow while handling firearms, some must also be followed while reloading.

First, I allow zero distractions. Realizing my limited mental faculties do not permit me to do two things at once, I don't watch TV or listen to the radio while I'm reloading. I don't even want anyone talking to me while I'm at the reloading bench, and will stop what I'm doing if a distraction presents itself. I pause at each step and check my work.

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Can you Tell a Difference?

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Confusing on Purpose?

The biggest potential for excitement relates to powder. When I started reloading I was surprised to learn there are literally hundreds of types of gunpowder all burning at different rates. The unit of measure for gunpowder is the grain (gr) which is equal to 1/7000th of a pound. In some cases, a safe load can become unsafe when it varies by as little as a few tenths of one grain, so imagine the mayhem if you inadvertently doubled the amount of powder in a cartridge. One good way to avoid this is by selecting a powder in which the desired load cannot be doubled without overflowing the case (volumetrically greater than 50% of the case capacity). Hopefully the observant reloader will notice gunpowder spilling all over the place and make some adjustments. Another problem is forgetting the powder altogether - see squib, above.

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This Isn't Good

A mistake with potentially disastrous consequences is simply using the wrong powder, and it's easy to do if you're not paying attention. Pressures developed in modern cartridges can easily exceed 50,000 psi and selecting the incorrect powder, for example using a fast burning powder in place of a slow one, can easily exceed the design pressures of the gun and result in a catastrophic failure. The only way I know to help prevent this is to never keep more than one powder on the reloading bench at a time and always check and recheck the powder you have selected before beginning a reloading session.

Have any of the reloaders among us had an accident (or a scare) related to reloading? What happened and how would you recommend preventing it from happening again?

Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM




Comments

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1 Pew pew time

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:00 PM (2JoB8)

2 Thanks for the gun thread, Weasel.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2021 06:02 PM (7bRMQ)

3 Pew pew time

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:00 PM (2JoB

Guess the others are still eating bacon.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2021 06:03 PM (7bRMQ)

4 Not sure why but trying to read and look at these pictures and screen keeps splitting left to right.

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:03 PM (2JoB8)

5 Hey, I hear there is a job that just opened up in the production of "Rust".

Posted by: casual observer 1024 at October 24, 2021 06:04 PM (jTmQV)

6 Sure, OrangeENT! Happy to do it!

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:04 PM (5WP7x)

7 How is this even possible?

Ask an apprentice armorer?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2021 06:04 PM (7bRMQ)

8 Woooooooo Texas!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 06:05 PM (JxiZo)

9 What an amazing time the MoMe was. So many friendly faces and great conversations. Special thanks to Ben Had, Jennifer, Weasel, and Eromero.

Two "gub" related anecdotes...
Honda: I shoot pistols left-handed and rifles right handed
Eromero: You're all kinds of messed up
Honda: Pretty much

Jim NSD: "Remember to close the gate, there are bulls involved"

Posted by: Honda at October 24, 2021 06:06 PM (R7LyT)

10 Hiya gunrons. I had to miss the MoMe for... reasons. I'll be bummed about it until next year but I guess it gives me something to look forward to.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:06 PM (nfrXX)

11 In my opinion the M1A1 slash M-14 is the finest infantry weapon ever made.
Lots of good ones out there but it's the best.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 06:07 PM (axyOa)

12 I will try to come to the next Texas mome with some lever guns.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 24, 2021 06:07 PM (JUOKG)

13 *points fingers and makes sound effects*

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2021 06:07 PM (ACi07)

14 Sure, OrangeENT! Happy to do it!

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:04 PM (5WP7x)

Well, I don't have much to contribute to the thread anymore. Haven't shot in ages. But I appreciate the info.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2021 06:07 PM (7bRMQ)

15 M1A Socom CQB may be silly- but it is a sexy looking rifle.

https://tinyurl.com/wv32vttm

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:08 PM (csEWM)

16 Even in Constitutional-Carry TX, I'd recommend getting a LTC anyway. For one thing it is helpful when you leave TX. For another, because you have the LTC, you are considered to have the background check already completed when you buy firearms.

THE AMMO MUST FLOW

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 24, 2021 06:08 PM (CdZ4i)

17 Dangit! I started reading the content!
I'm never going to get a Top Ten doing that!

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 06:08 PM (excGT)

18 So, do his and hers pistols make nice wedding gifts? I'm serious here. Kid2 is requesting this.

Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:10 PM (ONvIw)

19 It was a lot of fun watching the 'ons and 'ettes showcase their tools and skills. I even had the opportunity to participate courtesy of an 'ette. That was a lot of fun.

It was also nice meeting Weasel and getting his autograph in my copy of The Deplorable Gourmet. Now it's a collector's item!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2021 06:10 PM (K5n5d)

20 In my opinion the M1A1 slash M-14 is the finest infantry weapon ever made.
Lots of good ones out there but it's the best.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 06:07 PM (axyOa)

I'd say it's fantastic outside of buildings, I'd want a carbine for inside a building, lots of infantry action inside of buildings these days.

Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 06:10 PM (JxiZo)

21 In my opinion the M1A1 slash M-14 is the finest infantry weapon ever made.

The shorter, stouter op rod compared to the M-1 was a definite improvement. The box mag vs. enbloc clip is debatable.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:11 PM (nfrXX)

22 18 So, do his and hers pistols make nice wedding gifts? I'm serious here. Kid2 is requesting this.
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:10 PM (ONvIw)

Hmmm, I would think that would be an awesome gift. Do you buy the same gun or one for one and one for the other? Rifle and pistol?

Have to figure out how to do that two pieces of heart medallion thing in there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:12 PM (csEWM)

23 While at the shooty-stabby emporium (the one with the "buy a flamethrower and we'll toss in a rifle" deal) I saw that the shelves were groaning with ammo. Is the ammo "shortage" over?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at October 24, 2021 06:12 PM (Dc2NZ)

24 Finally got through the thread uninterrupted
Many battles in black powder period infantry in hear of Battle would have a squib kind of load, lots of reasons it could happen, then continue to load another and sometimes another round. It had to sometimes be catastrophic.

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:12 PM (2JoB8)

25 22. A matching set is requested. They go to their local range at least weekly.

Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:13 PM (ONvIw)

26 Attended the Enumclaw Gun Show yesterday. Enumclaw is a community about 25 miles SE of Seattle.
Sad times. It is half the size it was two years ago.
They did have ammo but horrible prices. Many of the links Weasel has above are far less pricy.
Weapon prices were high as well. Too high IMO.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 06:13 PM (axyOa)

27 16 Even in Constitutional-Carry TX, I'd recommend getting a LTC anyway. For one thing it is helpful when you leave TX. For another, because you have the LTC, you are considered to have the background check already completed when you buy firearms.

THE AMMO MUST FLOW
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 24, 2021 06:08 PM (CdZ4i)

And don't forget getting ltc insurance.

Thanks weasal for the few minutes you spent walking me through the basics. Next year I will be ready to partake long distance clinics.

Posted by: Redchief at October 24, 2021 06:14 PM (bVGsy)

28 They did have ammo but horrible prices. Many of the links Weasel has above are far less pricy.
Weapon prices were high as well. Too high IMO.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 06:13 PM (axyOa)

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 24, 2021 06:15 PM (CdZ4i)

29 Weasel!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 24, 2021 06:16 PM (kTF2Z)

30 Duke!

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:16 PM (5WP7x)

31 Is the ammo "shortage" over?

Not here unless something drastic has happened in the last week. 9mm is usually available and for less than it has been in a while but still at least 2X pre-vid prices. No .38 spl or .44 mag at any price.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:16 PM (nfrXX)

32 Honda at October 24, 2021 06:06 PM (R7LyT)

Hey yo Honda! Great letting you and Mrs. Honda this weekend!

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2021 06:17 PM (p40Pc)

33 I said in the last thread, that modern weapons should be able to push a round from the chamber back into the magazine.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 24, 2021 06:17 PM (ybIRR)

34 I think the Springfield Armory M1A version made sense. The full auto M-14 did not and the development and manufacturing of it was a trainwreck. The Italians used the Garand as the basis for their 7.62 Nato rifles and they did so with their BM-59 versions both faster and cheaper.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:17 PM (xunV5)

35 As always, thanks for the gub, Weasel. Man, you covered a fair stretch of real estate today getting to Nashville. Safe travels the rest of the way.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 24, 2021 06:17 PM (Xrfse)

36 And none of the biggie online stores have muzzle loaders.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 06:18 PM (OCTRt)

37 Love the look of that kimber compact...... my bank account looks too fat now......

Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 06:18 PM (JxiZo)

38 I've been wanting to buy an M1A for a while now. Springfield has some versions that are shorter/less barrel that interest me the most. I have an M1 and find it is just too damn large/cumbersome for a small guy like me.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 24, 2021 06:19 PM (QU5/8)

39 Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 24, 2021 06:17 PM (Xrfse)
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I was rolling right along, no doubt about it.

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:19 PM (5WP7x)

40 I loosely measured the pasture yesterday with the atv.
Pasture Distances
From where the back porch will be to the first tree line: 1584 ft., aka 530 yds. Not to the inch.
From the back porch with a dogleg right to the National Grasslands fence, which would require cutting down four trees - 2112 ft., aka 700 yds.
Looks like I'm stuck with 530 yds.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (OCTRt)

41 Has anyone seen pics of the armorer from Rust, Hannah Gutierrez? She's 24 years old. How anyone could look at her, hear her talk, and hire her to deliver groceries let alone handle guns on movie sets is beyond my understanding.

Posted by: JuJuBee at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (mNhhD)

42 A matching set is requested. They go to their local range at least weekly.

Well, I didn't spend that kind of $$$ on my own kid's wedding gifts but if money is no object, why not. There are obviously federal issues if you and they are not residents of the same state. Even if you are, it might be better to go to the gun shop, tell them what you want, pay for it, and then have the recipients go do the paperwork themselves.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (nfrXX)

43 When I am discussing the Springfield Armory M1A, I am fully aware that it was originally a parts version of the M-14 with a semi auto receiver then became manufacturing using new parts made by the private Springfield Armory. A box magazine made sense for the Garand and John Garand's original design included it. It was dropped by Army request sometime before production started on the Garand.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (xunV5)

44 38 I've been wanting to buy an M1A for a while now. Springfield has some versions that are shorter/less barrel that interest me the most. I have an M1 and find it is just too damn large/cumbersome for a small guy like me.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 24, 2021 06:19 PM (QU5/

https://tinyurl.com/wv32vttm

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (csEWM)

45 Weasel, Eromero, Duncanthrax, Steck, Helena, Jim, CBD




All y'all. Thank you so very much for your time and encouragement. You're the best.

Oh and Scuba Dude!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (U2p+3)

46 Mini-range report, dateline TxMoMe:

Eromero and Jim NSD did their usual exemplary job running the pistol range. They are the definition of perfection that Glock can only fantasize about obtaining.

I personally did little shooting, but stood by while a few shooters tried a couple of items I brought. I left with two significant observations.

I think very highly of the Sig P-365 as a carry piece. For me, it is small, and punches significantly above its weight accuracy-wise. However, a couple of shooters had issues with initial accuracy, and more significantly one kept hitting the magazine release, while another had difficultly manipulating it. Basically, an object lesson that what's right for one person won't be for another, and you're well off trying as many as possible before buying.

The second observation is that nurse ratched can shoot a 1911, with 23 of 24 rounds going into ~1.5" at ~ 11 yards. She shot so well that the steel target cried uncle after 12 rounds, and fell off its stand.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2021 06:21 PM (a3Q+t)

47 As to the M1A differences from the M1, because of the magazine, the M14/M1A didn't have that comforting *PING!* sound when your rifle is empty.

Weasel, I also noted you're pulling the sling tight when shooting in that position. What's your reasoning for doing that? (I can think of a couple.) [Yeah, Weasel ain't here. I'm hoping he reads the comments and responds next week.]

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 06:21 PM (excGT)

48 Has anyone seen pics of the armorer from Rust, Hannah Gutierrez? She's 24 years old. How anyone could look at her, hear her talk, and hire her to deliver groceries let alone handle guns on movie sets is beyond my understanding.
Posted by: JuJuBee


Diversity over qualified.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 06:22 PM (OCTRt)

49 Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (U2p+3)
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Miss you already!

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:22 PM (5WP7x)

50 Love the look of that kimber compact

I have a Raptor II and it's a fine weapon.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 24, 2021 06:22 PM (Xrfse)

51 Has anyone seen pics of the armorer from Rust, Hannah Gutierrez? She's 24 years old. How anyone could look at her, hear her talk, and hire her to deliver groceries let alone handle guns on movie sets is beyond my understanding.
Posted by: JuJuBee at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (mNhhD)

I saw a video of a girl that they said was her, but I don't know if it's real. She looked like she belongs to be on an ace post for the libs of tik tok.

Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 06:22 PM (JxiZo)

52 And good for you, weasel! I'm pleased you got as far as you did. Your creatures at home will be happy to see you.

Thank you for the hugs!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 06:23 PM (U2p+3)

53 Hi Weasel! Based on my visit to my LGS and looking at SG Ammo's listings, I think the shortage is over for the NATO standard calibers (9mm X 19, 5.56mm X 45, etc.). The LGS just got in a shipment (1 case of 2000 rounds) of .38 Special and had .45 ACP, but it wasn't cheap. If you're looking for (formerly) common hunting rounds (.30-30, .30-06), good luck trying to find anything. Prices are coming down for NATO standard calibers, but not as much for anything else.

Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 06:23 PM (NacE+)

54 42. That is essentially the plan. They're going to order the pair and I'll pay the bill. It seems much more practical and sensible than the gold earrings/cufflinks we did with kid1. Not cheap, but a gift that can last a lifetime, unless they take up canoeing.

Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:23 PM (ONvIw)

55 Another good video Weasel

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:23 PM (2JoB8)

56 Honda, what a pleasure it was to meet you both. Thank you for making TX your first MoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:24 PM (L0p0o)

57 "I would much rather be armed with some puny girly-man caliber handgun than relying on throwing bags of Fritos and Slim Jims at the bad guy holding up the gas station late at night."

Well, if you're a certain kind of former Marine, and encounter a certain kind of soy boy robber, you can just push his gun out of the way and give him a solid haymaker, then take _his_ gun away. All while not even letting go of your Slim Jims and Fritos. (I'm sure you've all seen the video.)
Kudos to that Marine. And Epstein didn't kill himself.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 06:24 PM (excGT)

58 Before we begin the usual banter and fun commentary, a serious note:
Not everyone wants or needs a carry permit, and if you aren't comfortable doing so, then you are one who probably shouldn't consider it. I'd feel better if you didn't, but it's a big responsibility, and not something to ever be taken casually. Having a carry permit is a very serious business and needs to be treated as such. If the unthinkable occurs and God forbid you put yourself on a list....

Move to a free state that observes Constitutional Carry. I believe we're up to 23 states now. Even Texas finally got on board with it.

- From the Free State of Missouri

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 24, 2021 06:25 PM (COPCI)

59 Yes, I have a carry permit and prefer to carry a snubby revolver in a pocket holster. (I gave it a LOT of thought before deciding to carry.) Not entirely happy about pocket carry since it's a problem to get the gun out when seated in the car. As I continue to lose weight I will likely look into an outside the waist band holster especially since I never tuck in my shirt any more. Same with the little S and W Shield 9mm.

I practice with the carry guns at seven to ten yards and can reliably keep a 2 inch or less group rapid fire. That size group took some time to learn, it wasn't without effort.

Posted by: JTB at October 24, 2021 06:25 PM (7EjX1)

60 56 Honda, what a pleasure it was to meet you both. Thank you for making TX your first MoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:24 PM (L0p0o)

We know you have many choices in MOMEs and we thank you for choosing ours. Please don't forget to tip your bacon and ammo stewardesses.

Posted by: MOME Cap'n Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (csEWM)

61 16 Even in Constitutional-Carry TX, I'd recommend getting a LTC anyway.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 24, 2021 06:08 PM (CdZ4i)


What is LTC, please?

Posted by: Emmie at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (6RgRK)

62 Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 06:21 PM (excGT)
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That was a really goofy setup and I was just trying to lock it in a little.

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (5WP7x)

63 48....

According to Brandon Herrera, the AK Guy, Ms. Gutierrez admitted she wasn't up to the task of managing the firearms on the Set of Rust, remarking that she doesn't know how to load a gun with blanks?!?!

Posted by: PacosMojo at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (1Fv0G)

64 Has anyone seen pics of the armorer from Rust, Hannah Gutierrez?

Someone posted a link in the food thread to a vid of a guy talking about it. She is clearly not mature enough for the kind of responsibility the job requires. It's also clear that others on the set, including AB, were not treating firearms with the respect they deserved. They were all playing with gasoline and matches.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (nfrXX)

65 Are we talking Sam's club size bags of fritos?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (csEWM)

66 I always carry, yeah usually a Glock on the belt on right hip. About 25 percent of the time I carry a SandW Airweight on my left ankle. Now for this TxMoMe I carried a Colt Det Spec, because I like it and when it was made there won't no such thing as Glocks. Another thing I believe in is no drinking when I carry. The explanation of defensive use is enough without adding that albatross around your neck.

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (0OP+5)

67 LTC: License to Cill! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (L2ZTs)

68 License to Carry a handgun--goes by different names in different states, concealed carry permit, etc.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (xunV5)

69 63 48....

According to Brandon Herrera, the AK Guy, Ms. Gutierrez admitted she wasn't up to the task of managing the firearms on the Set of Rust, remarking that she doesn't know how to load a gun with blanks?!?!
Posted by: PacosMojo at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (1Fv0G)

?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (csEWM)

70 Starting to plan for next year!

Posted by: rancherbob at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (gtu9W)

71 Good news about the Rust set I guess: *some* lefty will likely be going to jail.

Bad news: it probably won't be Baldwin.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 06:28 PM (L2ZTs)

72 I'm so glad, but not surprised, that everyone had a great tie at the TxMoMe. I look forward to reading about it on the threads tonight and this coming week.

Posted by: JTB at October 24, 2021 06:28 PM (7EjX1)

73 Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 06:23 PM (NacE+)
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It's starting to look that way. Prices are still pretty steep, but you can find it!

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:28 PM (5WP7x)

74 68 License to Carry a handgun--goes by different names in different states, concealed carry permit, etc.
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (xunV5)


Thank you, Whig! You are a veritable fount of knowledge.

Posted by: Emmie at October 24, 2021 06:28 PM (6RgRK)

75 I have a Raptor II and it's a fine weapon.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 24, 2021 06:22 PM (Xrfse)

My wife has one but it has more punch than I can handle.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at October 24, 2021 06:28 PM (JxiZo)

76 What I saw of the woman it was a TikTok video
Doubt you get much professionalism from Leftists.
No doubt she will get the brunt of the anger and lawsuits from this, I still don't but the burden on her no matter what she did or didn't do. The trigger man gets my anger.

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:29 PM (2JoB8)

77 Very nice M1A Weasel!

I don't have an M1A but do have a Polytech M-14S. Pre-ban, rumor was back in the day Red China was gonna ship these to the PI to supply the commies causing trouble on the islands but changed their minds.

Norinco and Polytech M14 clones are big in America's Hat as they were not on the prohibited list. They may be now due to Fidel's illegitimate son.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2021 06:29 PM (R/m4+)

78 70 Starting to plan for next year!
Posted by: rancherbob at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (gtu9W)
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Yes Sir! I was thinking about it in the car and making detailed notes on a McDonalds napkin.

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:29 PM (5WP7x)

79 Rancher Bob!

You and Jennifer are just amazing. Thank y'all for the hugs and the hospitality. And for letting me tag along with you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 06:29 PM (U2p+3)

80 rancherbob, there has been mention of oyster being roasted and trebuchets.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:30 PM (L0p0o)

81 63 PacoMojo, I think she was discussing loading blanks. The movie industry loads blanks for different tasks and looks which often requires handloading the blank cartridge.

Blank powders are very fast powders generating a lot of hot gas and pressure in a hurry and can blow up a pistol if not careful or if there is a barrel obstruction.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:30 PM (xunV5)

82 Adding this here since it was crapping out trying to post to the correct thread.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:30 PM (06EEn)

83 MH still pays the NFL for season tickets but claims to identify with the camp that has given it up, am I reading that right?

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:31 PM (06EEn)

84 Anyone think THEY think he's given it up?

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:31 PM (06EEn)

85 I stopped watching most of it when they fired Rush Limbaugh in 2003

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:32 PM (06EEn)

86 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2021 06:29 PM (R/m4+)
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Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:32 PM (5WP7x)

87 What a great time! Great to meet you Weasel. The rifle range is excellent. Didn't get to fire pistols, but next year it's on the list. Safe travels!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at October 24, 2021 06:32 PM (jvt6t)

88 74 No problem Emmie. Thank you for your kind words.

Some places also have knife permits or weapons permits including knives.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:32 PM (xunV5)

89 If I ever get black powder hand gun no doubt would make blanks just as I do with my muzzle loader. Why couldn't one use beeswax to plug end ?

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:33 PM (2JoB8)

90 A box magazine made sense for the Garand and John Garand's original design included it. It was dropped by Army request sometime before production started on the Garand.

Not arguing, but can you point me to a reference for this? Hatcher's book has a picture of an earlier JCG design that uses a box mag but the design that became the M-1 used the enbloc even when it was still in .276 Pederson.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:33 PM (nfrXX)

91 because even though I thought his hiring was dumb, making him out to be persona non grata indicated *I* wasn't welcome

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:33 PM (06EEn)

92 When they would not even let him buy part of a team a few weeks later I was completely done.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (06EEn)

93 Ben Had, we are good! Found something I thought was lost in a flaming canoe accident!

Posted by: rancherbob at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (gtu9W)

94 Haha, squibs. I too have had one, it was in my very early days of reloading(progressive press). It ruined the barrel so I called Palmetto and told them " I'm an idiot, I ruined a perfectly good barrel with a squib, will you sell me a new barrel?" They said send it in and emailed me a shipping label. They replaced the barrel and paid for shipping both ways, totally free. I'm a happy customer.

Posted by: ck at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (iBg56)

95 Posted by: Jak Sucio at October 24, 2021 06:32 PM (jvt6t)
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Likewise! It was absolutely my pleasure.

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (5WP7x)

96 Haole Fokker...

Legal Insurrection.

Fauci's NIH funded 'research' in Tunisia that tortured and killed Beagle puppies.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (sIDEA)

97 I take a petty and perverse but real joy in not knowing who is even in the Super Bowl each February and missing the commercials and halftime specials thus skipping an important element of anti-white propaganda.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (06EEn)

98 Jesus CHRIST that was a pain in the ass to post.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (06EEn)

99 My two cents only, but for those who can, go with the online retailers. The online sellers like SG Ammo have better prices on a per round basis than my LGS, especially if you buy in bulk. The only plus for the LGS is walking out w/ the ammo right after paying rather than waiting a few days for UPS or FedEx.

Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (NacE+)

100 BTW, I'm still waiting on my NFA Tax Stamp for a suppressor I purchased in March. My application is "pending" according to the good folks at the ATF branch HQ, Bridgeport, WV. However, the shop I purchased it from has an indoor range, and allows "jailed" suppressors to be used by their future owners on the premises. So, I screwed it on the end of a 300 BLK pistol I built and spent 30 minutes going through about 60 rounds of subsonic ammunition. What a difference a can makes! The only downside is the gas-in-the-face experience one endures when running a suppressor on any direct-impingement AR type gun.

Posted by: PacosMojo at October 24, 2021 06:35 PM (1Fv0G)

101 " So, do his and hers pistols make nice wedding gifts? "

I wouldn't unless they are both experienced firearms enthusiasts. I'm nervous about giving a gun to most anyone really.

Posted by: The Daily Maul at October 24, 2021 06:35 PM (Tnijr)

102 Oops off Limey sock

Posted by: f'd at October 24, 2021 06:36 PM (Tnijr)

103 Haole Fokker...

Legal Insurrection.

Fauci's NIH funded 'research' in Tunisia that tortured and killed Beagle puppies.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (sIDEA)

Yeah the docs do lots of crazy studies and it's very sickening. Outsourcing it makes it easier to hide too. Don't look up chimeras.

Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 06:37 PM (JxiZo)

104 What is LTC, please?
Posted by: Emmie at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (6RgRK)
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License To Carry

You only need it in certain places. Look at your state laws.

I recommend against a government permission slip for concealed carry. If you want to take classes then you should, but getting your name on a list of "Concealed Carry license holders" is sub-optimal.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 24, 2021 06:38 PM (COPCI)

105 rancherbob, great. I'll see you in the morning and get it out of your way.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:38 PM (L0p0o)

106 81...

That makes more sense, but given the position she was hired on as, her competency around all aspects of firearms/ammunition should've been top notch. Especially given that her dad is a famous firearms technician in the movie industry.

Posted by: PacosMojo at October 24, 2021 06:38 PM (1Fv0G)

107 To reinforce what Weasel said about reloading. I've discussed that much of it, depriming, inspecting for flaws, and repriming, I usually do in a comfortable chair. It's just mechanical.

BUT, when it comes to charging the case I pay strict attention. No TV, music or radio. No conversations. Leave me alone! I am a very anti-social powder dispenser. Since I seat the bullet right after charging the case, that's part of the anti-social time.

I have never had a squib load following this process and would like to maintain that record.

Posted by: JTB at October 24, 2021 06:38 PM (7EjX1)

108 IWB = Iron Wedged in Butt

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 06:39 PM (UHVv4)

109 Someone needs to give Fauci the Misery treatment.

Or a ride in the PETA death van.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:39 PM (sIDEA)

110 90 Oddbob, This is a video showing the prototypes Garands T1919 and T1920 development prototypes had box magazines, https://tinyurl.com/yhzxdfyj

This is from National Park Service which operates the original government Springfield Armory as a national park. You can view the prototypes there I believe if still on display.
https://tinyurl.com/fmn5m2us

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:40 PM (xunV5)

111 I always carry a Ruger 380ACP pocket pistol - 6 + 1 in the chamber.

That's so I can shoot my way back to the trunk of my car where I've got my AR Pistol chambered in 300BLK with a silencer and 220 gr subsonics packed into 4 full mags.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 24, 2021 06:40 PM (COPCI)

112 Howdy, Horde - Look at all the content! Back in a bit!

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at October 24, 2021 06:40 PM (Iw46i)

113 If I remember right, been awhile, the Army did not like the box mag for the M1 as they felt it hindered troopers shooting in the prone position, which is where they asses would most likely be in a combat situation. The En Bloc gets you low on the deck and keeps your head down. Makes reloading a tad easier when laying on the deck too.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2021 06:41 PM (R/m4+)

114 Weasel, did Ex-ex show you the rounds that he had? Interesting from a reloading perspective.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:42 PM (L0p0o)

115 I'm here. Home just in time for a glorious sunset.
Every time I try and write something about The Texas experience, I get so emotional, I am at a loss for words.
So, I will do a brief range report.
There was a little more structure to the handgun morning session on Friday. Starting at the civilized hour of 11(vs Weasel at 8 am) we had a brief but highly instructive class in the basics. Oddly, the Alec Baldwin shooting was a prime example that came up while we were discussing the 4 rules.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 06:42 PM (Y+l9t)

116 I'm so glad, but not surprised, that everyone had a great tie at the TxMoMe.
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I'd be pretty wary if I was invited to a neck tie party in Texas!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 06:43 PM (UHVv4)

117 70 Starting to plan for next year!

Posted by: rancherbob at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM
Y'all are just the best folks ever, Sir and Madam! Thank you from the bottom of my heart heart heart. (remember Hee-Haw?).

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 06:43 PM (0OP+5)

118 Alec may someone skate on the criminal liability but on the civil side as one of the producers, yeah I hope Alec has to sell his properties.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:43 PM (sIDEA)

119 Hello gub threaders. I received 400 rds of 9mm this past week. 36 cents a rd plus shipping. Was the cheapest brass cased non-reman on ammoseek a couple weeks ago when I ordered it.

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:44 PM (mbFEM)

120 As a TxMoMe Rifle Clinic participant I can say, "Weasel, You Da Man!" So is Steven, Cowhorse Queen's son, who helped me a Whole Lot on Friday.

A TxMoMe is a three-fer:
1. A fabulous party with fabulous folks,
2. An opportunity to meet and talk with the host, the fabulously fabulous Ben Had, and,
3. A World-Class beginners shooting tutorial, by Weasel, with one-on-one on-range teaching, all included in the price of admission! (wink)

Yowza!

Posted by: Gref at October 24, 2021 06:44 PM (AMIL/)

121 101. It's more of a reimbursement than something I would wrap in silver paper and white ribbons. And yeah, both are pretty experienced with the groom being military another bride learning to shoot at an early age. Our bride has had a Beretta for years

Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:45 PM (ONvIw)

122 Can't wait to go to a TX meet up! Hope in a couple of years when we are there.

Posted by: IC at October 24, 2021 06:45 PM (Nyumu)

123 "Fauci's NIH funded 'research' in Tunisia that tortured and killed Beagle puppies.
Posted by: Anna Puma"

This came up a few months ago didn't it?

Posted by: f'd at October 24, 2021 06:45 PM (Tnijr)

124 Guns!

Hello to all TX MoMe peeps. I have envy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (eeRB6)

125 I told sra blaster of my Christmas wish of an Extar EP-9 and she will fulfill it!

Well if they come back in stock any time soon.

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (mbFEM)

126 Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger

Does someone need a hug?

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (U2p+3)

127 Sharon, to quote my old ROTC sergeant major, "There's nothing quite like sudden, violent death to teach someone a lesson." Unfortunately, that's what it takes to get some people's attention.

Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (NacE+)

128 We then moved to the pistol range where a number of different guns were laid out on a table. We were invited to peruse the offerings and decide what we wanted to shoot. Then something awesome happened. We all got an expert to stand behind us and tutor, counsel, suggest alternatives.
Jim NSD, range master and instructor, Steck, Nurse, Helena Handbasket and Eromero....I mean seriously people, has there ever been such talent in one place.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (Y+l9t)

129 Should read and the bride...

Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (ONvIw)

130 Is there a whole bunch of life saving research going on in Tunisia?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (csEWM)

131 This Fauxchi guy really needs to meet a blowtorch and a pair of pliers.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (w3Jsn)

132 Ate you guys really shooting these days? The price and shortages of ammo has got me thinking my guns are just historic relics.

Even 22LR is off the charts.

Two of mine are 38SPL/35MAG and 45ACP, both of which mean every round fired costs a buck.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (4ZE6o)

133 Has anyone seen pics of the armorer from Rust, Hannah Gutierrez? She's 24 years old. How anyone could look at her, hear her talk, and hire her to deliver groceries let alone handle guns on movie sets is beyond my understanding.
Posted by: JuJuBee


Diversity over qualified.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 06:22 PM (OCTRt)

And a whole lot of nepotism.

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (nbpCi)

134 I load semi progressively on handgun ammo with a turret press but use a powder checker die to make sure that a powder load drops. Full progressives need a powder cop that stops the press if no powder drops. Rifle rounds loaded in small batches, a flashlight will do to check for powder drop. There are also led lights that mount to the top of some presses so that you get a good view of the insides of cases including powder.

Weasel's words are correct: btw, you should also only have the powder jug that you are using right then to load on your reloading surface and same for primers. I personally write the cartridge type, oal, primer, powder charge in grains, date loaded, and specific bullets either on a sticker label or on some cardboard and foam ammo boxes that you can get online at reloading supply stores.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (xunV5)

135 Jak!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (U2p+3)

136 130.Fauci is just a sociopath

Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (ONvIw)

137 Mrs B had fun shooting at the mome. Like me she hasn't fired a gun in 30 years. Jim and Helena gave her a quick refresher on grip and stance and she was good to go.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 06:48 PM (f2FY8)

138 Did get to the range yesterday, trying out my fixed CZ P-07 kadet barrel (I had a squib hammered out after I failed to get it free).

Gun fired just fine, about 140 .22 rounds.

Then fired 50 115gr JHP Fiocci ammo, which was nicely grouped, though the P-07 shots a little low in the 115gr, it prefers the 124 for POA impact.

Great fun.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:48 PM (eeRB6)

139 The Texans present at the TxMoMe, in view of his service to the MoMe over the years, and after the appropriate and serious deliberation needed for this momentous instance, voted in Weasel as an Honorary Texan.

Being a Texan, whether native, adopted, or honorary, is not all fun and games. It comes with a number of traditions and responsibilities, one of which is captured in the phrase "One riot, one round". Now, there are, unfortunately, some rounds (*cough* 9mm *cough*that cannot be counted on, however beloved they are by certain misinformed Smart Military Blog commenters. So, to make sure Weasel could meet any immediate need to fulfill said obligation, he was issued a round of .45 ACP.

As he accepted, huzzahs erupted, welcoming Weasel as a fellow Texan.

Well done, and well-deserved, Weasel!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2021 06:48 PM (a3Q+t)

140 Jesus CHRIST that was a pain in the ass to post.
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (06EEn)

Hey Howard, how's it hanging!

Posted by: Zombie Lou Saban, Not That Asshole Nick at October 24, 2021 06:49 PM (R/m4+)

141 Eromero

Did not manage to spend much time with you but I always enjoy when we do. Thanks for your help and hope to see you again soon. Tell the Misses hello!

Posted by: rancherbob at October 24, 2021 06:49 PM (gtu9W)

142 Gref, you were a life saver for me and I can't thank you enough. Of course I kinda miss the feet on the dashboard, screaming and seat belt securing stories.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:49 PM (L0p0o)

143 Ate you guys really shooting these days? The price and shortages of ammo has got me thinking my guns are just historic relics.

Even 22LR is off the charts.

Two of mine are 38SPL/35MAG and 45ACP, both of which mean every round fired costs a buck.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (4ZE6o)

Where are you shopping???

Sgammo has .45 ACP for about .60/round and .22 is about twice pre-panic prices, but that's not prohibitive.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:49 PM (eeRB6)

144 A reminder there is a reason that there is a stereotype of a drawer full of holsters. It is hard to know what works for you with the right combination of concealment, security, and comfort until you actually wear it for a while.

Prepare to make some relatively expensive bad choices. Don't try to make a bunch of cheap choices they won't really work out and it might skew your view of a type that might work well for you but the poor execution says no.

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:50 PM (mbFEM)

145 114 Weasel, did Ex-ex show you the rounds that he had? Interesting from a reloading perspective.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:42 PM (L0p0o)
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He did!!

Gref - thank you. Always a pleasure to get to shoot with you.

I need to grab dinner. Back later.

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:50 PM (5WP7x)

146 Is there a whole bunch of life saving research going on in Tunisia?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (csEWM)


That or a prototype of Room 101

Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2021 06:51 PM (KbLYZ)

147 TX MoMe Range report, day 1 (posted from the road in Dumas, TX)

Jesse and I started the day with Weasel's excellent mid range shooting class. Of course, it was WAY beyond my ability and understanding at this point, but good to start learning. Neither of us attempted to shoot at the rifle range, though. Then we took Jim SND's awesome intro pistol class and headed to the pistol range. I've taken classes before, but Jim's explanation of sight alignment was especially helpful to me.

I wanted to work with my Sig P365. Lately I've been absolutely awful with it. Both Jim and Eromero (who is perhaps the most patient and levelheaded person I've ever met) gave me very good corrections. Sadly, I'm still terrible, horrible, no good, very bad with this gun, (1 shot of 20 on paper). Everyone else was awesome!

Have to go eat now but will follow up with Day 2 range report later (my shooting experience was somewhat better)

Posted by: screaming in digital (Jesse's Girl) at October 24, 2021 06:51 PM (SK546)

148 I know, let's immobilize Fauxi and cut his vocal cords so the Tunisian sand-fleas can eat in peace.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:52 PM (sIDEA)

149 This came up a few months ago didn't it?
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Vanity Fair is covering it now so the MFM has to pay some attention to it. The two-puppies' photo doesn't help either.

[tweet] Anthony Fauci Is Funding Experiments on Aborted Baby Scalps and Livers
https://tinyurl.com/ychb4dha

Second tweet.
https://tinyurl.com/zfbxu2fb

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 06:52 PM (UHVv4)

150 Steck, my assigned counselor(well, it was sorta like camp) at one point had me pick up a 1911 22. I thought it was way too heavy for me but when I hit a bullseye with the first shot, I was in love. Never would have thought. Changed my whole perspective. Nothing like success to make one a believer. That is just an example of the personal attention. There is so much more but I'll r3port on my rifle experience next week and may have an addendum which grew out of multiple conversations.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 06:52 PM (Y+l9t)

151 That or a prototype of Room 101

Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2021 06:51 PM (KbLYZ)

All things considered, I'd rather be in Room 222.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2021 06:53 PM (7bRMQ)

152 Weasel, thank you for the great instruction and mentoring that you provided to all of us on the rifle range at TxMoMe. It was a pleasure to meet you in person.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy Agr8U at October 24, 2021 06:53 PM (yCZVl)

153 148 yes. The whole thing was sickening

Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:54 PM (ONvIw)

154 Anyone been talking about Larry Vickers being raided by the ATF and a whole lot of his suppressors and full auto noisemakers seized?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:54 PM (eeRB6)

155 148 I know, let's immobilize Fauxi and cut his vocal cords so the Tunisian sand-fleas can eat in peace.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:52 PM (sIDEA)

+1

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:54 PM (eeRB6)

156 Oddbob, This is a video showing the prototypes Garands T1919 and T1920 development prototypes had box magazines, https://tinyurl.com/yhzxdfyj

The T1920 is the one pictured in Hatcher but it's a different enough design from the (eventual) M-1 that it's hard to call it a prototype. It's not even gas operated. The T20 shown in the linked article is, according to the article itself, a modification JCG did in 1944.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:54 PM (nfrXX)

157 nurse! Glad you made it through the squalls safely! Great to meet you!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at October 24, 2021 06:55 PM (jvt6t)

158 Fauci's NIH funded 'research' in Tunisia that tortured and killed Beagle puppies.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (sIDEA)

BREAKING NEWS! Anthony Fauci Tortures Snoopy To Death

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2021 06:55 PM (nbpCi)

159 Sen. Dr. Rand Paul, "Dr. Fauci have you stopped killing puppies?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:55 PM (sIDEA)

160 MAE, I'm no expert at this but I've been buying 22 for $.09/ rd at Rogers Sporting Goods. Really quick shipping and free shipping over $99.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 06:55 PM (Y+l9t)

161 Mr. Gaga, SG Ammo has .45 ACP for $0.66 per round and .38 Special for $0.72 per round, if that helps. If you have to go to your LGS for ammo, $1 per round is what you'll pay for both (unfortunately). Every round fired has to have some training value for the shooter.

Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 06:56 PM (NacE+)

162 147....

Just keep shooting, and keep the range short (15 feet or so). Accuracy will come with practice.

Posted by: PacosMojo at October 24, 2021 06:56 PM (1Fv0G)

163 Anyone been talking about Larry Vickers being raided by the ATF and a whole lot of his suppressors and full auto noisemakers seized?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:54 PM (eeRB6)

I posted earlier in the week about this crime. Larry has many irreplaceable and historical weapons.

This apparently happened in August 2021 and no one has the dope yet on what actually went down.

Plus Larry is ill and no one has heard his take yet.

ATF is bad juju.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2021 06:56 PM (R/m4+)

164 So, do his and hers pistols make nice wedding gifts?

Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:10 PM (ONvIw)

Oh hayel yes! A slightly expensive wedding gift*, but a great one!
(* Compared to buying 2 plates or a soup tureen out of the registry. Or a chafing dish.**)
(** Movie reference.)

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 06:56 PM (excGT)

165 Said it before but fauci needs to dropped into hot, molten lava.

Posted by: IC at October 24, 2021 06:57 PM (Nyumu)

166 And Jak Sucio and Scuba Dude, thanks for the trigger time!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy Agr8U at October 24, 2021 06:57 PM (yCZVl)

167 Thicc Boi online!

Sounds like the TxMoMe was fun and that Weasel did the same great job teaching like he did on the Dream Date.

The pictures can't really do the Springfield M1A justice. She's a gorgeous rifle and a sweet shooter.

Posted by: Thicc Boi at October 24, 2021 06:57 PM (zThcc)

168 I live in a may issue state (CA), which further complicates matters by letting the County sheriffs decide if you can exercise your 2nd amendment rights. In San Diego, the sheriff largely saw the light about two years ago and has been doing a decent job of issuing permits.

My "cause" is an online stalker who outed and cancelled me in the 2012 campaign. Ruined my career, cost me work and friends, but gave me cause to carry. So break even?

Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at October 24, 2021 06:58 PM (+W8+H)

169
Well done, and well-deserved, Weasel!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2021 06:48 PM (a3Q+t)
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Thank you all, so much!

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:58 PM (5WP7x)

170 It was great seeing you again Weasel!!

Posted by: Probably Not Tacitus at October 24, 2021 06:58 PM (8my6+)

171 My EDC is a Kel-Tec PF-9 in an IWB Kydex holster that sits about 3-4 o clock depending.

Sra blaster carries a P365 in an IWB Kydex at about 2 o clock.

I intend to upgrade to the P365 at some point.

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:59 PM (mbFEM)

172 144 A reminder there is a reason that there is a stereotype of a drawer full of holsters. It is hard to know what works for you with the right combination of concealment, security, and comfort until you actually wear it for a while.

Prepare to make some relatively expensive bad choices. Don't try to make a bunch of cheap choices they won't really work out and it might skew your view of a type that might work well for you but the poor execution says no.

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:50 PM
This! If you are willing to pay near or better than 1k for a handgun, don't carry it in a $25 holster.

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 06:59 PM (0OP+5)

173 At this rate, Weasel will soon be hanging his shingle in Texas.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:59 PM (sIDEA)

174 Oh and holsters....my favorite is Don Hume. Backups are Galco, DeSantis and Safariland.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (eeRB6)

175 Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:44 PM (mbFEM)
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For sure, if you can buy in BULK, ammoseek is the way to go. Ammograb sometimes has better pricing, but it's on smaller quantities (<200 rds).

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (COPCI)

176 And I am now firmly in the .45>9mm camp.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (U2p+3)

177 Said it before but fauci needs to dropped into hot, molten lava.
Posted by: IC at October 24, 2021 06:57 PM (Nyumu)


. . . Moved into Assisted Living to survive only on his Social Security Pension. Bonus if it is in a state which remains locked down for Covid.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (KbLYZ)

178 Yeah, they're going to try to blame the armorer. But ultimately, that idiot Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger while aiming the gun at someone.

Posted by: Been Lurking at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (rDgjh)

179 Draki! What did you think of Dune?

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (QHqf9)

180 ATF is bad juju.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2021 06:56 PM (R/m4+)

Thanks for the info, sir.
And yes, the ATF is pretty much an enemy to the rest of the country.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (eeRB6)

181 172 144 A reminder there is a reason that there is a stereotype of a drawer full of holsters. It is hard to know what works for you with the right combination of concealment, security, and comfort until you actually wear it for a while.

Prepare to make some relatively expensive bad choices. Don't try to make a bunch of cheap choices they won't really work out and it might skew your view of a type that might work well for you but the poor execution says no.

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:50 PM
This! If you are willing to pay near or better than 1k for a handgun, don't carry it in a $25 holster.
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 06:59 PM (0OP+5)

Upgrade your belt first.

Posted by: weirdflunky at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (cknjq)

182 I believe that Weasel has a t-shirt that identifies has a Texaginian. Top billing to Texas

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (L0p0o)

183 So I take it that TXMoMe '21: The Insurrectioning was a rousing success?

May I recommend next year an effigy of an Ewok be erected and burned on the final night?

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (nbpCi)

184 164 So, do his and hers pistols make nice wedding gifts?

Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:10 PM (ONvIw)

Oh hayel yes! A slightly expensive wedding gift*, but a great one!

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 06:56 PM (excGT)
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You can get really reasonably priced concealment furniture on Etsy. Depending on your price range, you could give someone a safe stash spot as a night stand.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (COPCI)

185 Well, how dumb-ass am I? Reading the blog from Dallas and it starts at 6 Central. Duh.

Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (L5e/8)

186 176 And I am now firmly in the .45>9mm camp.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (U2p+3)

So you're going to start cheating on your PPQ?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (eeRB6)

187 My Kimber Raptor II full size is the most expensive firearm I own and it is a VERY sweet shooter.

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 07:03 PM (mbFEM)

188 One helluva TxMoMeet in the books! Getting to see folks from last year, meeting new folks this year, such a richness of fellowship!

Mucho thanks to Eromero, who, anchoring the right-side of the pistol line, helped ensure safety and a good time by all. And *special thanks* to the volunteer RSOs who stood, one each behind every new/ish handgun shooter, and guar-an-damn-teed a safe and fun time by all!

Salute to SatRose, who on Saturday freshened up the firing line a bit with some drills for the ladies with handgun and carbine, both. Finally, a "not worthy" bow towards Nurse Ratched, whom one ought NOT piss off in general, and damn sure not when she's got a 1911 in hand. "You can run but you'd die tired", a classic snipers' trope, applies to her skills when the .45ACP is turned targetward.

Mazel Tov and God Bless Y'all, Horde!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 24, 2021 07:03 PM (QzJWU)

189 Maybe dropping Fauci into LA Palma volcano would appease the gods

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 07:03 PM (2JoB8)

190 What did you think of Dune?

"Well it's dry, windy, hot, dangerous, and full of Fremen. Great resort destination, not" - Duncan Idaho.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:03 PM (sIDEA)

191 I generally carry either my Kimber Ultra Carry in .45, my Walther PPS in 9mm, or my Ruger SP101 in .357 with a 2-1/4" barrel. All are extremely reliable. I think I could run over that SP101 with a truck or throw it into a brick wall, and it would still work.

Posted by: jackcoke at October 24, 2021 07:03 PM (xxJ+H)

192 Being a Texan, whether native, adopted, or honorary, is not all fun and games. It comes with a number of traditions and responsibilities, one of which is captured in the phrase "One riot, one round".

Which is an AoSHQ version of the traditional "One Riot, One Ranger".

Weasel can "curve" bullets like in the movie "Wanted" so for him it is One Riot, One Round. The rioters just need to be organized neatly into a perfect circle and be the same height.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:04 PM (+LCoQ)

193 I had a full flap holster made by Simply Rugged for my SW highway patrol. It is very nice and the price was pretty affordable. He makes nice stuff.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 07:04 PM (WF/xn)

194 My "cause" is an online stalker who outed and cancelled me in the 2012 campaign. Ruined my career, cost me work and friends, but gave me cause to carry. So break even?
Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at October 24, 2021 06:58 PM (+W8+H)

Damn. That's pretty messed up. Sorry to hear that.

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2021 07:04 PM (nbpCi)

195 186 176 And I am now firmly in the .45>9mm camp.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (U2p+3)

So you're going to start cheating on your PPQ?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October


CBD has a PPQ in .45.

I may be conflicted.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:04 PM (U2p+3)

196 May I recommend next year an effigy of an Ewok be erected and burned on the final night?
Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (nbpCi)

Calling the Horde to battle? Might send the wrong message...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 07:04 PM (csEWM)

197 Nurse welcome to the correct side.

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 07:04 PM (2JoB8)

198 especially since I never tuck in my shirt any more.

Posted by: JTB at October 24, 2021 06:25 PM (7EjX1)

And there's my problem with concealed carry, in general. I need to tuck in my shirts at church and at work, so I look professional. And that really complicates the options. I'm pondering the sport coat look now that fall temps are finally dropping here.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:05 PM (excGT)

199 A lot's being said about the armourer chic and a lot of it is out of sequence. That tictok vid is, as as someone said, something for Ace's 'libs of tiktok' but that doesn't speak to ability for disciplined behavior.

Preceding this movie she was principal armourer on a Nic Cage movie, that's the movie where she was nervous. I think first time for most anything is a bit nervy.

There is also, in the chain of command, an affects supervisor, don't know where his responsibility is.
However, the Assistant Director is the man who handed Baldwin the gun and called it Cold.

It would have taken him about two seconds to rotate the cylinder to assure there were no cartrdges before calling it Cold.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 07:05 PM (oFUlW)

200 https://www.simplyrugged.com/

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 07:05 PM (WF/xn)

201 remarking that she doesn't know how to load a gun with blanks?!?!
Posted by: PacosMojo at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (1Fv0G)

How do you get a REALLY big version of the :O emoji here? That's your one friggin' job as a prop master with guns!

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (excGT)

202 My EDC is a Kel-Tec PF-9 in an IWB Kydex holster that sits about 3-4 o clock depending.

Sra blaster carries a P365 in an IWB Kydex at about 2 o clock.

I intend to upgrade to the P365 at some point.
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:59 PM (mbFEM)
***

Ditto with the Keltec. I really like it.
I use a simple pocket holster...but not because my pants are fitting too tight.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (axyOa)

203 Nice Anna.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (QHqf9)

204 To everyone who attended the TX MoMee:

was the glowie easy to spot? :-)
I've been saying he was wearing Ray-Bans and shimmering purple zentai...

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (L2ZTs)

205 Maud'dib, Brother, what can I say. The door prizes were stupendous! Thank you is never enough. The flasks were amazing as all the other stuff was but WOW.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (L0p0o)

206 Braenyard, hmmm

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:07 PM (L2ZTs)

207 164 Thanks. I think we'll just go for it and demand nice pictures of the purchase on the ring bearer pillows.

Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 07:07 PM (ONvIw)

208 Did you know you can mine your own gems in some National Parks? Research "Ruby Ridge" for more information on this federal program.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 24, 2021 07:08 PM (COPCI)

209 >
205 Maud'dib, Brother, what can I say. The door prizes were stupendous! Thank you is never enough. The flasks were amazing as all the other stuff was but WOW.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (L0p0o)



Glad folks liked it Sister. I trust the flasks were put to immediate use?

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 24, 2021 07:08 PM (QHqf9)

210 Weasel, safe travels home.
Thanks for the thread, as always.
Went to the range today with a neighbor. I was very happy with my shooting at 21 and 30 feet, with my handgun.
Neighbor had a new S&W Compact(IIRC). Sometimes it was not going into battery. I suggested he might be limp wristing it. Neighbor thought I was crazy. Just then the RO came over. Neighbor asked him. And the RO suggested same limp wristing idea. Neighbor acknowledged my gun thread divined knowledge. Made me happy.
Also, we practiced with my Mantis device.

Posted by: MikeM at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (X+eRS)

211 The set of Rust sounds like it was just waiting for a tragedy to happen. Safety was not enforced.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (sIDEA)

212
I know, let's immobilize Fauxi and cut his vocal cords so the Tunisian sand-fleas can eat in peace.

Run away! Run away!

Posted by: Tunisian sand-fleas at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (63Dwl)

213 Yeah, they're going to try to blame the armorer. But ultimately, that idiot Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger while aiming the gun at someone.

Someone has to go down for this murder, and since Baldwin, the actor, cries real well and can pull off a very convincing show of contrition and remorse, some minion to the flunky is going to get framed with the rap.

Baldwin can afford more justice than anyone else on the set - he'll walk.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (+LCoQ)

214
Upgrade your belt first.
Posted by: weirdflunky at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (cknjq)

This is very good advice that often goes unmentioned

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (WF/xn)

215 goes by different names in different states

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (xunV5)

Yep. In Virginia it's a CHP. Not California Highway Patrol, but Concealed Handgun Permit. Or, as it's written on the card, "Permit to carry a handgun concealed."
And yes, it is ONLY a permit to carry a concealed handgun. Which seems kindof silly to me.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:10 PM (excGT)

216 There was some .44 revolver snubby beast Jim tamed with six shots in a two inch space. Holy shit. It had a kick. Ouch!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:10 PM (U2p+3)

217 The set of Rust sounds like it was just waiting for a tragedy to happen. Safety was not enforced.

Why would they make a film of a programming language? Sounds boring.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:10 PM (+LCoQ)

218 If you want boredom, wait until the RPG movie is released.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:11 PM (sIDEA)

219 No Frogger movie?!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (L2ZTs)

220 Bad news: it probably won't be Baldwin.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 06:28 PM (L2ZTs)

Maybe not, but he will end up being the one sued: lots of money, he pulled the trigger, AND he's the PRODUCER. I'm guessing he hired the non-union "armorer".

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (excGT)

221 Glad folks liked it Sister. I trust the flasks were put to immediate use?

Envy all around. Fortunately there was absolutely no problem finding a way to fill the flasks multiple times.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (+LCoQ)

222 GWB, this is true.

I keep having to tell myself, Baldwin's life can be made quite painful even without jail...

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (L2ZTs)

223 No Frogger movie?!!

That would be ribbeting

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (sIDEA)

224 Thanks for the info, sir.
And yes, the ATF is pretty much an enemy to the rest of the country.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (eeRB6)

Your welcome Mark! Hard to find info, looks like the people who did this are keeping it on the down low.

Larry is not a man to be trifled with, so it smells to high heaven it happened while he is fighting for his life. I had seen some of his items for sale last year which was a little odd.

Keep your head down and keep looking for answers.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM (R/m4+)

225 If you want boredom, wait until the RPG movie is released.

I think I saw the second sequel in college, RPG III.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM (nfrXX)

226 Upgrade your belt first.

Posted by: weirdflunky at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM
If I'm wearing jeans it's a Crossbreed brand gunbelt. They are 1.75 " wide and over 1/4" thick. They will hold up a 1911 gov model and 2 extra mags easy. And my jeans, which is a bonus since I have no ass to speak of.

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM (0OP+5)

227 This is very good advice that often goes unmentioned
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (WF/xn)


But not so helpful for the ladies. sra blaster has 3 ways she carries. A Dene Adam's pair of compression shorts when in a skirt, and two different IWBs fdepending on higher or lower waistband pants.

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 07:14 PM (mbFEM)

228 Whoa whoa WHOA!

I didn't see flasks! Maud'dib donated flasks?
Wtf?

There would have been a fight.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:14 PM (U2p+3)

229 And I am now firmly in the .45>9mm camp.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (U2p+3)


Until you become acquainted with the Kimber Eclipse (1911 frame) in the mighty centimeter caliber.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:14 PM (+LCoQ)

230 The experience of any TX MoMee, is unforgettable, and cannot be recommended highly enough.

Jim SND and Weasel presented world class tutorial sessions followed by structured (as much as you can structure Morons) live fire sessions! Many targets wept, and much steel swung in the breeze!!

Hard as I try, I cannot imagine more gracious, competent, and just fundamentally decent to their very core people, than Ben Had, Rancher Bob, Jennifer, Weasel, and Jim SND (and there was a similar supporting background cast of at least a hundred people)!

Next Year In Corsicana!
Plan ahead!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:14 PM (hOUT3)

231 blaster, don't forget garters!

Uh, I'll be in my bunk for a bit...

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:15 PM (L2ZTs)

232 Maybe not, but he will end up being the one sued: lots of money, he pulled the trigger, AND he's the PRODUCER. I'm guessing he hired the non-union "armorer".
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (excGT)

Sleazy fuck probably hired an armorer that he thought he could bend over a desk. No way she was qualified for that job.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 07:15 PM (f2FY8)

233 No Frogger movie?!!

That would be ribbeting
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (sIDEA)

You know how I've said there is only one unforgivable sin?

I just added one more to the list.

Posted by: The LAWD Yo GAWD at October 24, 2021 07:16 PM (nbpCi)

234 That is essentially the plan. They're going to order the pair and I'll pay the bill. It seems much more practical and sensible than the gold earrings/cufflinks we did with kid1. Not cheap, but a gift that can last a lifetime, unless they take up canoeing.
Posted by: CN
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Late: I think this is a great idea. I think getting them some range time at a place that has a selection of hand guns so they can get a feel for 'what fits/feels good' would help too. (I know, chaching; but, they will only live once!)
Then mail order to their local FFL for transfer paperwork. I have used grabagun.com and have been pleased.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2021 07:16 PM (9wbEA)

235 Honda: I shoot pistols left-handed and rifles right handed
Posted by: Honda


So you're likely left handed, but right eyed.

When the first Doom computer game came out, that was one of the criticisms. The player character shot weapons like you do.

But it's natural for a cross-dominant lefty.

Posted by: mikeski at October 24, 2021 07:16 PM (P1f+c)

236 Berserker, did you see the pic of the armorer?
Most heteros wouldn't want to have their way with her, I don't think...

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:16 PM (L2ZTs)

237 88 74 No problem Emmie. Thank you for your kind words.

Some places also have knife permits or weapons permits including knives.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:32 PM (xunV5)


In Iowa, it's a "Permit to Carry Weapons", which covers guns, knives, swords, axes, pikes, halberds and small nuclear weapons.

(I might be wrong about that last one.)

Posted by: a.moron at October 24, 2021 07:17 PM (F6Xpw)

238 1/4-20 Threaded Hollow Points.

Posted by: klaftern at October 24, 2021 07:17 PM (taPSh)

239 234. A tactical course is planned

Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 07:17 PM (ONvIw)

240 Berserker!
Ms B is a freaking killer shot. You should be proud. I know you are.

Party on!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:17 PM (U2p+3)

241 Said it before but fauci needs to dropped into hot, molten lava.

Well, his father dwells there, so rest assured, when Fauci leaves this life, he'll return there.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:18 PM (+LCoQ)

242 241 He is indeed Satan spawn

Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 07:18 PM (ONvIw)

243 I have envy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (eeRB6)

^^THIS^^

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:19 PM (excGT)

244 I'd still love if there could be a nationwide MoMee in Vegas.

NYC: the city that never sleeps, but LV: the city that's on an never-ending coke binge.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:19 PM (L2ZTs)

245 Berserker!
Ms B is a freaking killer shot. You should be proud. I know you are.

Party on!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:17 PM (U2p+3)

I think I'm more afraid. Lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (f2FY8)

246 Berserker, did you see the pic of the armorer?
Most heteros wouldn't want to have their way with her, I don't think...
Posted by: qdpsteve
Yup. Related topic. There obviously should not be live rounds anywhere near such a movie set. But boy and girls will be boys-I understand they liked to go shooting in the desert etc.
But as someone said, up thread, there is no need for her to be *overwhelmed*, simply check each gun for blanks versus live rounds before each scene. All your other responsibilities are secondary to such safety.

Posted by: MikeM at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (X+eRS)

247 Fauci is so evil, he still listens to disco music!

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (L2ZTs)

248 MikeM, yup

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (L2ZTs)

249 And yes, the ATF is pretty much an enemy to the rest of the country.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (eeRB6)


These days, [b[any government agency acting outside of specific laws enacted by an "elected" Congress capable of making up arbitrary "rules" which have the full force of law is an enemy of the people, even though those Constitutionally illegal "laws" are really for the good of the "people"!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (hOUT3)

250 Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:14 PM (hOUT3)

I'm already doing that. Next year, I'll make sure my work calendar is clear.

Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (NacE+)

251 In Iowa, it's a "Permit to Carry Weapons", which covers guns, knives, swords, axes, pikes, halberds and small nuclear weapons.
-------------------------
Is that a Davy Crockett in your pocket or are you just happy to see me??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 07:21 PM (UHVv4)

252 nurse, wish you were still here.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:21 PM (L0p0o)

253 I am officially throwing in the towel (not like it would matter much) and giving up on bailing water outta the basement. Hopefully it won't inundate where the stuff that matters is. It's not that it's raining hard -- it's not (mostly) -- it's that it's been steadily raining since last night and we already had had a record 1.89" of rain since October 1 -- 200% of normal.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 24, 2021 07:21 PM (KAi1n)

254 Not content with funding the research the lead to Covid-19, Let's Go Fauci funded experiments on dogs that subjected them to be eaten alive by insects. This is not a joke.

#ArrestFauci

F Little Tony Mengele.

Posted by: LostInSpace at October 24, 2021 07:21 PM (Tatvp)

255 every round fired costs a buck.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (4ZE6o)

You *really* need to look around online. Midway USA, Gun Mag Warehouse, even Ammo Man have had prices below that for a couple of months. If you're picky about brand and loading, then maybe.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:22 PM (excGT)

256 ..Sleazy fuck probably hired an armorer that he thought he could bend over a desk. No way she was qualified for that job. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 07:15 PM (f2FY

I've read that the "armorer" hired was the daughter of none other than Thell Reed, one of the most famous Hollywood gun-handlers of all time. Ages are confusing though, Thell would be easily a decade older than me, and a 24 y/o sounds maybe more "granddaughter"?

Point being, you'd expect the spawn of such as Thell Reed to be much like Jerry Miculeck's daughter, hell on wheels with a gun in her own right. But, granddaughter? SHE might really be a single generation out of the tutelege of the Patriarch, and "once removed" would be enough to break the chain of competency, resulting in what we've now seen in the news.

For all but Baldwin, it seems to be a tragedy. For Baldwin? Far closer to Business as Usual, and more atrocity than tragedy, fwiw.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 24, 2021 07:22 PM (QzJWU)

257 I think I'm more afraid. Lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (f2FY


I decided, based on substantial target evidence, that there were an awful lot of 'ettes that I will endeavor to NEVER get mad at me!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:23 PM (hOUT3)

258 I owe giant thank you s to the magnificent people who make this whole thing work.
Ben Had , the heart of this whole thing and wine connoiseur.
Jennifer, I never laughed so hard in my life as I did last night on the dance floor.
Rancher Bob who took the time to help me figure out which gun I shoudn't buy.
Weasel, who made sure I got a chance to try out a new rifle.
Jim NSD who was an excellent instructor and loaned me that rifle.
Friends, friends, friends, my adopted family.
I love you all and can't wait to do it all over again.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 07:24 PM (Y+l9t)

259 Ben Had,
Me too.

But Lucy the cat is happy I'm home. So I got that going for me!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:24 PM (U2p+3)

260 that I will endeavor to NEVER get mad at me!

Luckily am a bio-mechanical love doll, nyah

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:24 PM (sIDEA)

261 With the AB shooting it seems like many errors stacked up to create a lethal incident. Many people failed. If just one of several did the right thing this would have been prevented

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 07:25 PM (WF/xn)

262 I'm already doing that. Next year, I'll make sure my work calendar is clear.
Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (NacE+)


My friend, you are wise beyond your years! You will NOT regret this!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:25 PM (hOUT3)

263 (posted from the road in Dumas, TX)

Posted by: screaming in digital (Jesse's Girl) at October 24, 2021 06:51 PM (SK546)


Hooooeeee, I've got stories from driving through there for a number of years (Colorado Springs to DFW). One involving snow, a blanket, and making a truck jackknife.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:26 PM (excGT)

264 Not content with funding the research the lead to Covid-19, Let's Go Fauci funded experiments on dogs that subjected them to be eaten alive by insects. This is not a joke.

#ArrestFauci

F Little Tony Mengele.
Posted by: LostInSpace at October 24, 2021 07:21 PM (Tatvp)

Stake his silly ass in the desert and let some A-10's do some strafing runs.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 07:26 PM (f2FY8)

265 Better half and I went to the Apache Junction Fall Festival (parking lot craft show) last weekend. She saw custom made men's shorts with a concealed carry pocket (heavy material on inside of exterior pocket) and bought them for me. The seller mentioned that my S&W 686 doesn't carry will in them.
So I now own a Ruger Max 9. Yea!
Desert Range next weekend.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2021 07:27 PM (9wbEA)

266 Imma have to put a driving plan together for next year. We have room for 2 one 3 pax in the Escalade.

Hmmmm

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM (mbFEM)

267 Late to the thread but I would like to reiterate my admiiration for Weasel's excellent clinic, Steven's patient instruction, and the safe, professional pistol range managed by Jim SND and Eromero. I learned a lot and thoroughly enjoyed the experience.

There was an idea floated for next year involving Trebuchet-launched pumpkin skeet. The question is, what kind of shot would be best?

Posted by: Retief at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM (hgd+7)

268 Luckily am a bio-mechanical love doll, nyah
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:24 PM (sIDEA)


Anna, even though you were not there this year, I sincerely hope to see you there at some future time, but in any event, you are on the permanent list of 'ettes that I fervently hope NEVER get mad at me!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM (hOUT3)

269 Honda: I shoot pistols left-handed and rifles right handed
Posted by: Honda

So you're likely left handed, but right eyed.

When the first Doom computer game came out, that was one of the criticisms. The player character shot weapons like you do.

But it's natural for a cross-dominant lefty.
Posted by: mikeski


Same here. Pistol left, rifle right. Right eye dominate.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 07:29 PM (KVa9+)

270 Range report: Did another 50 rounds each of the G19 and .22LR AR this morning at ESS. The recoil control techniques I had been practicing worked fine on the rifle but still weren't quite right for the handgun. So still gotta work on that.

But was somewhat distracted by the noise resulting from either a bad seal on my earmuffs or a bad fit on my ear plugs. Very odd since I've been using the same setup for quite some time now.

Posted by: Thicc Boi at October 24, 2021 07:30 PM (zThcc)

271 Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM (mbFEM)

With a full loadout of "gear"?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:30 PM (hOUT3)

272 Hrothgar, you say the nicest things!

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:30 PM (sIDEA)

273 What was really good for me was Thursday morning. Weasel had a dozen or so of us in the classroom talking math and physics and wind and elevation, humidity and temperature. He molded it all into a comprehensive "view of a shot" if you will.

Then we went to the rifle range and he set up spotting scopes and had us look. He explained WHAT we were seeing as far as haze and mirage and air movement at the target as opposed to where we were standing. Then he stood back and let us figure it out.

Pretty awesome coaching. I learned a LOT.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:31 PM (U2p+3)

274 @271 yessir. That's why I got it.

We could take the whole shooting club plus full load out.

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 07:31 PM (mbFEM)

275 Upgrade your belt first.
Posted by: weirdflunky at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (cknjq)

THIS!

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:32 PM (excGT)

276 There was an idea floated for next year involving Trebuchet-launched pumpkin skeet. The question is, what kind of shot would be best?

Posted by: Retief at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM
Since 88 flak is so hard to find, maybe 20 mikemike? Like a SeaWiz?

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:32 PM (0OP+5)

277 Not content with funding the research the lead to Covid-19, Let's Go Fauci funded experiments on dogs that subjected them to be eaten alive by insects. This is not a joke.
#ArrestFauci
F Little Tony Mengele.
Posted by: LostInSpace at October 24, 2021 07:21 PM (Tatvp)


Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of "men" like Fauci?

Hint: his name starts with "S"!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:32 PM (hOUT3)

278 identifies has a Texaginian. Top billing to Texas
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (L0p0o)

Because identifying as a Virginas-ian would be... problematic.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:33 PM (excGT)

279 s in the desert and let some A-10's do some strafing runs.
Posted by: B


sandflies

how are you home so fast?

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 24, 2021 07:33 PM (K3ZCc)

280 RE: Guns that ceased functioning...dramatically.
I have an FBI(ret) friend with a display case in his living-room, inside is an N-Frame S&W...
it was a Bad guys gun, a bad guy that was shooting at my friend.
Three of the chambers have been fired, in one of those fired chambers is lodged a .45 caliber round....pointed the "wrong way". It is a round HE fired at the bad guy, hit square into a chamber, knocked the gun from the badguys hand, also rendered it "Non-functional"...and rendered the bad guy into custody.
It is a pretty impressive conversation piece. Somewhere I have a phone pic I took of it. Cylinder is bulged, and slightly askew.

Posted by: tj Strong at October 24, 2021 07:33 PM (uAI4S)

281 272 Hrothgar, you say the nicest things!
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:30 PM (sIDEA)


Anna, this comment is going in the Hrothgar PermaRecords notes file!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:34 PM (hOUT3)

282 My carry pistol is a Ruger LCP in .380. I've a Viridian green light set to strobe and come on when drawn from the holster. Fits in my back pocket and prints as if it's a wallet. While it could be considered a "girly-man" caliber, at the distances anticipated it will be just fine. And the wife's Kimber BelAire Micro shares the caliber, so we both get to spend a stupid amount on ammo

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at October 24, 2021 07:34 PM (Iw46i)

283 Upgrade your belt first.
Posted by: weirdflunky at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (cknjq)

THIS!
Posted by: GWB

High on my list after the concealed carry shorts mentioned above!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2021 07:34 PM (9wbEA)

284 Well time to do other things like get back to building the Mk I Spitfire.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:34 PM (sIDEA)

285 276 There was an idea floated for next year involving Trebuchet-launched pumpkin skeet. The question is, what kind of shot would be best?

Posted by: Retief at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM
Since 88 flak is so hard to find, maybe 20 mikemike? Like a SeaWiz?

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:32 PM (0OP+5)


I've seen the necessary stuff available on-line to do grenade launching from an M1 Rifle. Dud (trainer) grenades, of course.

Posted by: Gref at October 24, 2021 07:36 PM (AMIL/)

286 Wow. A First TxMoMe is a life altering experience.
In no particular order :
Ben Had, CowHorseQueen, Rancher Bob (who was kind enough to let me wander the property at 7 am this am pretending to look for ham to shoot), Weasel!, and every moron/ette who attended.
I can't begin to express it in one or two comments, so it will spill over during the weeks ahead.

Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 07:36 PM (L5e/8)

287 It would have taken him about two seconds to rotate the cylinder to assure there were no cartrdges before calling it Cold.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 07:05 PM (oFUlW)


This. It is the *SHOOTER'S* responsibility, ultimately, to ensure the firearm they are using is appropriately loaded or not.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:37 PM (excGT)

288 Glock 23 40 Cal IWB 13rd mag with one in the chamber. Extended mag release button, 3.5 lb trigger, Ashley night sights. Glocks are damn ugly but perfect otherwise.

Posted by: BigBoreCore at October 24, 2021 07:38 PM (Nyumu)

289 what kind of shot would be best?

Pumpkins and turkeys are kinda size-compatible. I'd go with #6 shot.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 24, 2021 07:38 PM (Xrfse)

290 was the glowie easy to spot? :-)
I've been saying he was wearing Ray-Bans and shimmering purple zentai...

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (L2ZTs)
------------

The shorts and black socks with tennies - busted

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 07:40 PM (oFUlW)

291 The shorts and black socks with tennies - busted
Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 07:40 PM (oFUlW)


Doesn't everyone wear shined Florsheim shoes?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:42 PM (hOUT3)

292 Braenyard, LOL.
"Don't muss my hair!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:42 PM (L2ZTs)

293 I have no ass to speak of.
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM (0OP+5)

One of the other issues with how personal carry is. If your body shape isn't "normal" you have to begin experimenting. The new little doodad they're putting on IWB holsters? That pushes the belt out so the grip cants in to the body (so it prints less)? Yeah, that pushes my belt out so it's no longer really holding my pants up - and that does NOT help concealment.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:42 PM (excGT)

294 Hrothgar, Weasel & Co. used the Florsheims for skeet!

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:42 PM (L2ZTs)

295

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (+LCoQ)
---------------

Isn't murder when one intentionally kills another?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 07:43 PM (oFUlW)

296 What the heck, if we're talking carry pieces....
CZ P-07
OR
XD9
OR
Glock 21

Depends on what pants I'm wearing.
Most jackets have a pistol in the pocket. Taurus 709 or Kel Tec PF-9.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 07:43 PM (eeRB6)

297 Bang!

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 07:43 PM (huVNL)

298 and more atrocity than tragedy, fwiw.
Posted by: Jim


I saw More Atrocity Than Tragedy open for Godspeed You! Black Emperor, at the Minneapolis State Theater in 2015.

(Ben Rothlisberger will now explain post-rock band names.)

Posted by: mikeski at October 24, 2021 07:43 PM (P1f+c)

299 getting ready for the First! rain of the season here in Lost Angels, so may not be back until the ONT...

glad everyone had a rocking time in Texas.

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 07:44 PM (huVNL)

300 In Iowa, it's a "Permit to Carry Weapons", which covers guns, knives, swords, axes, pikes, halberds and small nuclear weapons.

Posted by: a.moron at October 24, 2021 07:17 PM (F6Xpw)


Dang, I need an Iowa permit.
I've been wanting to carry a cane-sword. (Yes, I know how to use one.)

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:45 PM (excGT)

301 red, yup. Tomorrow is supposed to be wet.

Can't wait for the TV news too. "Stormwatch 2021!!"...

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:45 PM (L2ZTs)

302 The shorts and black socks with tennies - busted
Posted by: Braenyard


That was either the glowie, or my dad.

Posted by: mikeski at October 24, 2021 07:45 PM (P1f+c)

303 I fluctuate between 3 different guns for concealed carry. A SIG P250 compact in .45, a S&W M&P 2.0 9mm, and a SIG P228 in 9mm. All fit very well in my Crossbreed IWB holster.

I lean more toward the P250 because in spite of the trigger pull being a week long, I hit everything I aim at out to 15 yds which is a distance I'm comfortable with engaging a target with confidence. Also, the stopping power of a JHP 230gr .45 is undeniable.

Posted by: Hank_Scorpio at October 24, 2021 07:45 PM (XS3+G)

304 Isn't murder when one intentionally kills another?

You'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out it's... "complicated."

Posted by: D. Chauvin at October 24, 2021 07:45 PM (nfrXX)

305 Yeah, .380 LCP in wallet holster is pretty much pat down proof. "May" have carried this weekend.

Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 07:46 PM (L5e/8)

306 Someone has to go down for this murder, and since Baldwin, the actor, cries real well and can pull off a very convincing show of contrition and remorse, some minion to the flunky is going to get framed with the rap.

Baldwin can afford more justice than anyone else on the set - he'll walk.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (+LCoQ)

Legal Insurrection blog has a very good post by Andrew Branca on whether or not Baldwin will face any criminal liability for the shooting.
https://tinyurl.com/4a8asb39
very short summation - how will the shooting be classified:
accidental? - no liability
negligent? - civil liability (wrongful death suit)
recklessness? - Criminal liability

we don't know enough facts yet to be able to judge which will apply.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 07:46 PM (evAgx)

307 Weasel, you herd cats good.

Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 07:47 PM (L5e/8)

308 280 - TJ

See, that proves that it's possible to shoot the gun out of someone's hand! Any cop who shoots someone anywhere else should be charged with murder!!!

Posted by: typical ignorant liberal at October 24, 2021 07:47 PM (49nYE)

309 I'd still love if there could be a nationwide MoMee in Vegas.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:19 PM (L2ZTs)


We could all go to Front Sight training as a group! THEN do a fun shoot - if Rancher Bob owns some property out there.....

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:48 PM (excGT)

310 RI Red, what a pleasure. Hope the kitties are better.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:48 PM (L0p0o)

311 Opposite. Pistol right handed.shotgun rifle left. Bad vision in my right eye.I really do wish i could shoot everything right handed.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at October 24, 2021 07:48 PM (0OmEj)

312 293 I have no ass to speak of.
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM (0OP+5)

One of the other issues with how personal carry is. If your body shape isn't "normal" you have to begin experimenting. The new little doodad they're putting on IWB holsters? That pushes the belt out so the grip cants in to the body (so it prints less)? Yeah, that pushes my belt out so it's no longer really holding my pants up - and that does NOT help concealment.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:42 PM
I have 1 IWB rig that was made to fit a G26, and it will fit other makes as well. My problem with IWB carry is I'm bony as Slim the skeleton. I prefer the firearm to be outside for easy access and comfort. Maybe we should start a new line of 782 gear for civilian use?

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:49 PM (0OP+5)

313 Not going to make it to the ONT. So glad everyone had a wonderful time at the TXmome!

Posted by: Infidel at October 24, 2021 07:50 PM (QC3yT)

314 Weasel, Thanks for the thread and please have a safe trip home. I can feel a nap coming on so I'll sign off early.

Posted by: JTB at October 24, 2021 07:50 PM (7EjX1)

315 GWB, yup.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:50 PM (L2ZTs)

316 redc1c4, 'ettes with bourbon shots and cigars. Perfect.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:51 PM (L0p0o)

317 Hoping someday a nationwide MoMee can go down in either Vegas or Monument Valley.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:51 PM (L2ZTs)

318 I'm sure this has been said, but it matters not who was responsible for what on that set. Baldwin picked up a pistol, didn't check it, and fired at the woman. It's on him. All on him.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 24, 2021 07:52 PM (kTF2Z)

319 317 Hoping someday a nationwide MoMee can go down in either Vegas or Monument Valley.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:51 PM (L2ZTs)

if you know anyone who owns a ranch in monument valley...

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 07:52 PM (evAgx)

320 QUICK!!! Someone call 9-1-1 for Infidel!!!

HANG ON, INFIDEL!!! HELP'S COMING!!!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (UHVv4)

321 Tom Servo, admittedly I don't. In fact I don't know anyone there.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (L2ZTs)

322 Ben. Finally meeting you. I has happies.
Mrs R with sick kitties has no happies.
Next time back to TX I think we should do something less strenuous than a MoMe. Like wrestling TRex.
You may be awesome.

Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (L5e/8)

323 Weasel, I have to sign off for tonight. I have an early start tomorrow. Just hearing the initial reports of the MoMe already have me inspired to be there in person next year. See everyone next week!

Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (NacE+)

324 317 Hoping someday a nationwide MoMee can go down in either Vegas or Monument Valley.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Then organize one!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (U2p+3)

325 >>> 137 Mrs B had fun shooting at the mome. Like me she hasn't fired a gun in 30 years. Jim and Helena gave her a quick refresher on grip and stance and she was good to go.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 06:48 PM (f2FY

Those were some pretty good groups for not having shot for a while.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (ACi07)

326 Posted by: andycanuck

lol.

Posted by: Infidel at October 24, 2021 07:54 PM (QC3yT)

327 >>> 324 317 Hoping someday a nationwide MoMee can go down in either Vegas or Monument Valley.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Then organize one!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (U2p+3)

Talk to WDS for some helpful hints.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2021 07:54 PM (ACi07)

328 I'm sure this has been said, but it matters not who was responsible for what on that set. Baldwin picked up a pistol, didn't check it, and fired at the woman. It's on him. All on him.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 24, 2021 07:52 PM (kTF2Z)


That responsibility thing, it be just more like a loose guideline, matey!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:54 PM (hOUT3)

329 If just one of several did the right thing this would have been prevented
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 07:25 PM (WF/xn)

Breaking the causal chain. It's the point of all aviation safety training. You can't just do one thing wrong and hurt people/break stuff. It takes a bunch of screw-ups - just don't do ONE of them and the whole tragedy stops.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:54 PM (excGT)

330 Nurse and Helena, hmmm

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:55 PM (L2ZTs)

331 Danny of Taofledermaus has passed on.

The world is a lesser place without him in it.

https://youtu.be/V6qVwTOVmfI

Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 07:55 PM (Lzpvj)

332 Hey, I know of an abandoned movie lot in Santa Fe NM that might be available for a MoMee next year... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:55 PM (L2ZTs)

333 And last thoughts were for the Horde and Texas!

You're a better man than I, Infee-dell.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 07:55 PM (UHVv4)

334 Those were some pretty good groups for not having shot for a while.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (ACi07)


I warned berserker that Mrs B was one of the 'ettes that should be accorded much respect!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:55 PM (hOUT3)

335 Off mush-headed sock...

Posted by: ycrt in TX at October 24, 2021 07:55 PM (49nYE)

336 Trebuchet-launched pumpkin skeet. The question is, what kind of shot would be best?
Posted by: Retief at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM (hgd+7)

Slugs?

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (excGT)

337 Everyone is getting in on the act

https://bit.ly/3nnXrbQ

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (rdbLX)

338 328 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:54 PM (hOUT3)

Quite, if you have the magic "-d" you are always blameless.

Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (Lzpvj)

339 I shot IDPA for a few years, and reloaded many rounds. I had a few squib loads. Bought myself a powder check die, and never had another. They're a great investment.

Also recently bought myself two laser inserts (9mm and .45ACP) and got the MantisX Laser Academy app. My 10 year old and I have had great fun dry firing in my billiard room against IDPA targets.

Posted by: SARDiver at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (s0DTB)

340 I have no ass to speak of.
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM


That makes you the perfect 'ron, old chap!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (a3Q+t)

341 Quite, if you have the magic "-d" you are always blameless.
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (Lzpvj)


Amazing how relatively quickly we have reverted to a "caste" system, right?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:58 PM (hOUT3)

342 Everyone, how does this look near Monument Valley?
Looks like there's decent lodging nearby too.

https://stepoutside.org/range/
gunfighter-canyon-a241c000002v4wvqak.html

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:59 PM (L2ZTs)

343 I'll have to send you a photo of my M1 Garand. It has a 1943 cartouche, completely original/matching parts, and was carried by a Command Sergeant Major who worked directly for GEN MacArthur. I've had it for 10 years, and can't bring myself to fire it. It's the closest thing I have to a safe queen, and I had actually picked up a 1984 stainless steel, unfired Colt Python...that I then defiled by firing it. (It sits next to my 1973 blued Python, both 6" models.)

Posted by: SARDiver at October 24, 2021 07:59 PM (s0DTB)

344
1. Every weapon is loaded until you personally clear it.
2. Never point a weapon at anything you don't intend to shoot.

My father taught me that when I was five.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 24, 2021 07:59 PM (kTF2Z)

345 341 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:58 PM (hOUT3)

I think blaming the Hispanic armorer is a work of genius and a fine cautionary tale for minorities that when the chips are down you will be destroyed to save a honky male.

Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 07:59 PM (Lzpvj)

346 321 Tom Servo, admittedly I don't. In fact I don't know anyone there.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (L2ZTs)

Most of it is inside the Navajo Reservation. Beautiful because it is so bleak. There are a few resorts where you can stay, Gouldings and The View being the most prominent.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 07:59 PM (evAgx)

347 Pumpkin chunking?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 08:00 PM (csEWM)

348 I want to be sure and thank all of the RSO's that give so generously of their knowledge. Texas is about a lot of things and a bunch of that is guns. We are a group like no other and I am proud to know each and everyone of you.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 08:01 PM (L0p0o)

349 That Andrew Branca post on LI had this salient comment:

"Guns are indeed fired all the time in movies. At actors. In scenes. When are guns fired at cinematographers? Oh, right, never."

Posted by: ycrt in TX at October 24, 2021 08:01 PM (49nYE)

350 340 I have no ass to speak of.
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM

That makes you the perfect 'ron, old chap!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (a3Q+t)

Or Brie Larson in disguise...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 08:01 PM (csEWM)

351 There are a few resorts where you can stay, Gouldings and The View being the most prominent.
Posted by: Tom Servo

The View fund 300 plus a night.
It is gorgeous. But. Um. Count me out.

Hi Tom! Nice to meet you!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 08:02 PM (U2p+3)

352 In my opinion the M1A1 slash M-14 is the finest infantry weapon ever made.
Lots of good ones out there but it's the best.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 06:07 PM (axyOa)



I have always wondered about an open top bolt in combat conditions. At least with the M14 you can take the magazine out and shake out the mud, unlike the M1.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2021 08:02 PM (rdbLX)

353 There's also an outdoor shooting range near Page, AZ, that's just called "Gun Range."

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:02 PM (L2ZTs)

354 The M-14 is a nice precision fire weapon properly accurized, I'd take the M-16a2 over it.

Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:03 PM (Lzpvj)

355 BTW, which of you Morons shooting rifles at 200 yds managed to take down the lower two strands of barb wire right behind the steel? Huh?!

Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 08:04 PM (L5e/8)

356 Re Monument Valley, I'm looking at Page, Arizona.

I'm seeing a La Quinta and a Comfort Inn there.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:04 PM (L2ZTs)

357 Maybe we should start a new line of 782 gear for civilian use?
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:49 PM (0OP+5)

I'm all in for entrepreneurship! But what is "782 gear"?

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:05 PM (excGT)

358 >>>It is the *SHOOTER'S* responsibility, ultimately, to ensure the firearm they are using is appropriately loaded or not.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:37 PM (excGT)
--------------

He's not a shooter he's an actor.
There is a set protocol for declaring Cold Gun, it was not followed.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 08:07 PM (oFUlW)

359 357 Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:05 PM (excGT)

LBE, battle rattle....

modern troops use the latest version of the FLIC the old LBE was an improvement over gen 1 web gear.

Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:07 PM (Lzpvj)

360 Hi Tom! Nice to meet you!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 08:02 PM (U2p+3)

it was fun to finally meet you! I presume you're back safe and sound now. Glad you had a good trip!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 08:08 PM (evAgx)

361 It is a pretty impressive conversation piece. Somewhere I have a phone pic I took of it. Cylinder is bulged, and slightly askew.
Posted by: tj Strong


One in a million shot.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 08:08 PM (OCTRt)

362 Everyone is getting in on the act

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (rdbLX)

Yep! I have one of the nukes/F15 ones. Looking to turn that one into a .50 Beowulf if I can save my pennies for the upper.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:08 PM (excGT)

363 Everyone, how does this look near Monument Valley?
Looks like there's decent lodging nearby too.


You do understand that you're dangerously close to volunteering to organize something, right?

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:09 PM (nfrXX)

364 358 Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 08:07 PM (oFUlW)


An actor can be the shooter, also *he* was the asshole who hired the assholes who were assholes.

If only Arec Borwin had told Arec Borwin not to cut corners on hiring gun gaffer toothy mcbigtits to run a set that had already had 3-5 negligent discharges.....

See Arec Borwin is civilly responsible period, and in a sane world criminally as well.

Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:09 PM (Lzpvj)

365 Oddbob, yes I'm aware of that :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:10 PM (L2ZTs)

366 Oh, right, never."
Posted by: ycrt in TX at October 24, 2021 08:01 PM (49nYE)

Well, except for all the times you're looking down the barrel when it's fired in the movie.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:10 PM (excGT)

367
See Arec Borwin is civilly responsible period, and in a sane world criminally as well.
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:09 PM (Lzpvj


I'm so ronry, sand a ronry

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 08:10 PM (WF/xn)

368 Can you imagine the Santa Fe newspaper headlines? 150 moron with guns and no one was shot.

Posted by: Infidel at October 24, 2021 08:10 PM (QC3yT)

369 I have always wondered about an open top bolt in combat conditions. At least with the M14 you can take the magazine out and shake out the mud, unlike the M1.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)


That's why I've always said, True bottom load M1 Garand with BAR magazines.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 08:11 PM (OCTRt)

370 My first weapon as a cadet was an M-14.
Damn it was fun. Accurate, easy maintenance, and lets face it, it just looks like a warrior's weapon. My only problem was on my first field exercise and the firing pin broke. I was told that was very unusual. But i carried an extra for the rest of the time we used them and it was replaced by the M-16.

Sigh...

Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 08:11 PM (axyOa)

371 Looks like there's a lot of natural beauty in the Page area. Monument Valley is 2 to 2.5 hours away, and there's other national monuments as well, plus a few well-known chain motels that I don't think are outrageously expensive.

Does this appeal to anyone besides me? In the meantime, hmmm. Gonna have to give some serious thought to organizing something for 2022.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:12 PM (L2ZTs)

372 367 Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 08:10 PM (WF/xn)

Useress as Kim said...

seriously it is amazing but not shocking to me the lengths that a lot of people go to to allow this clown to try to skate on culpability.

The presence of a procedure matrix does not absolve an individual of blame.

Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:12 PM (Lzpvj)

373 One in a million shot.
--------------------------
Wouldn't believe it unless I saw it with my own eyes, doc.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 08:13 PM (UHVv4)

374 LBE, battle rattle....

Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:07 PM (Lzpvj)


Aha. Well, I see LOTS of battle rattle stuff available. None of it is what I would call "non-confrontational".

But, designing something that works for "dad bods" and such would certainly have a good market niche.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:13 PM (excGT)

375 I trust the flasks were put to immediate use?
----
I personally saw one of the winners filling theirs up from the open bar....

Posted by: lin-duh at October 24, 2021 08:14 PM (UUBmN)

376 One in a million shot.
--------------------------
Wouldn't believe it unless I saw it with my own eyes, doc.
Posted by: andycanuck


I've seen the artwork of rifle bullets hitting each other in mid flight from WWI.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 08:15 PM (OCTRt)

377 Hey everybody, I'm pretty pooped and need to get some sleep. Thanks for tuning in tonight, and have a great week. See you next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 08:16 PM (5WP7x)

378 That was a Seinfeld reference, Rick

Sorry for the obscurity.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 08:16 PM (UHVv4)

379 I just want to second all the kudos to everyone who helped out at the TXMoMe.

As someone who never touched a gun until last year's TxMoMe who now understands why all these "gun nuts" have some many "toys" and now is trying to decide where to start for my first purchase, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your patient introduction to the whole sport.

I miss you all!

Posted by: Iris at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (6lKe4)

380 Thank You all for another set of wonderful memories. YOU are the BEST.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (L0p0o)

381 See Arec Borwin is civilly responsible period, and in a sane world criminally as well.
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:09 PM (Lzpvj)

I agree with you on civil liability, because he was the producer and ultimately responsible for everyone on that set. For criminal liability, there will probably need to be some testimony that he was screwing around with the gun recklessly, not just trying to film a scene.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (evAgx)

382 G'night weasel, thanks for the gun thread early.

Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (xunV5)

383 357 Maybe we should start a new line of 782 gear for civilian use?
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:49 PM (0OP+5)

I'm all in for entrepreneurship! But what is "782 gear"?

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:05 PM
As sven (who knows more than me for sure) said, it's load bearing gear. I'd strip it to just belt and suspenders though since I will only carry sidearm and 3 or 4 mags, and not canteen, flashlight, aid kit, blah blah. Heck I just may start wearing suspenders since I am well into geezer range now.

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (0OP+5)

384 A lot of whiners here tonight, Weasel.

Posted by: Ghost of John Garand at October 24, 2021 08:18 PM (AMIL/)

385 Safe travels Weasel!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 08:18 PM (axyOa)

386 Does this appeal to anyone besides me?

I'll start the bidding with a firm "maybe." A MoMe would make a great bookend to a longer vacation in the general area.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:18 PM (nfrXX)

387 I've seen the artwork of rifle bullets hitting each other in mid flight from WWI.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 08:15 PM (OCTRt)

the odds were evened up because there were a million bullets from each side in the air when they hit.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 08:18 PM (evAgx)

388 My original MoMee idea was for Lake Tahoe, and it looks like that would be a better idea. Probably lots more places to stay, and Carson City has at least one well-reviewed outdoor gun range.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:19 PM (L2ZTs)

389 Maybe we should start a new line of 782 gear for civilian use?
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:49 PM (0OP+5)

I'm all in for entrepreneurship! But what is "782 gear"?

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:05 PM
As sven (who knows more than me for sure) said, it's load bearing gear. I'd strip it to just belt and suspenders though since I will only carry sidearm and 3 or 4 mags, and not canteen, flashlight, aid kit, blah blah. Heck I just may start wearing suspenders since I am well into geezer range now.
Posted by: Eromero


762 Gear. (7.62x51)

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 08:19 PM (OCTRt)

390 Oddbob, does Tahoe sound better or worse to you?
Also when would you prefer it go down? I like June, personally.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:20 PM (L2ZTs)

391 381 Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (evAgx)

It will be swept under the rug in a way that it would not be for say Gary Sinise.

He is a member of the club, it makes the center-right interference ran for him unseemly because in the end it is unneeded.

Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:20 PM (Lzpvj)

392 Hey Horde! Just have a sec before I get on dee plane, but the MoMe was awesome! It was great seeing folks from last year and first-timers like I was last year. I can't say enough good things about it, or the people who make it a reality year over year. You guys kick ass and I'm honored to call you friends.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at October 24, 2021 08:20 PM (Ak/GS)

393 41
I don't care if she's the most unqualified ninny on the planet, the responsibility for the shooting is 99%+ on Alec Baldwin, i.e. the guy who pointed the weapon and puled the trigger.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2021 08:20 PM (roH4R)

394 Dr Claw, true.

My hunch is it'll be up to the Hollywood unions as to whether or not Alec skates on the gun negligence.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:21 PM (L2ZTs)

395 Howdy from the road back home - tonight in Blytheville, AR.

Again, thank you Weasel, CBD, Jim and all other instructors and RSOs at the MoMe. Wifey shot a AR platform for the first time and was absolutely thrilled. CHQ's son was an immense help to her and, as it was her first time, was very gentle.



Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2021 08:21 PM (PPjCi)

396 GWB- I believe you can aim at the camera WITHOUT aiming at the camera operator...

Regardless, AB is the epitome of an arrogant Hollywood liberal, who mocked Dick Cheney's hunting accident, so I can only say... well, I'm trying to be a better Christian, so I won't say anything else.

Posted by: ycrt in TX at October 24, 2021 08:21 PM (49nYE)

397 Uhhmmm, we DID have a meet up in Lost Wages a coupla years back. We could do it again, but THIS time we should all get reservations at Circus Circus and wear KaBoom Tshirts! And then go out in the desert and shoot tank rounds tinyurl.com/35jepb3j

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at October 24, 2021 08:22 PM (Iw46i)

398 lin-duh, somehow "open bar" does not quite fit what ws on that table. Maybe "wide open"?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 08:22 PM (Y+l9t)

399 McGyver, Vegas is still doable and someone above already mentioned the gun range in Pahrump.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:23 PM (L2ZTs)

400 The drawing gifts were out of control this year! Sadly, I didn't see any of my stuff. Did I miss it? Who won the keychains and the necklace?

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2021 08:23 PM (nxdel)

401 Oddbob, does Tahoe sound better or worse to you?

I would prefer Monument Valley to Tahoe.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:23 PM (nfrXX)

402 Honda, very pleased to meet you and Mrs Honda this weekend! Always fun to share Navy stories regarding our sons.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2021 08:24 PM (PPjCi)

403 Timing is flexible as long as there's enough lead time to arrange time off.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:25 PM (nfrXX)

404 Night, Weasel - ThanX! for everything you do. G'night Horde. Nd to mop the floor, wife's coming for a visit.

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at October 24, 2021 08:25 PM (Iw46i)

405 Oddbob, fair enough.
It's just that if people want to shoot outdoors, it looks like the small city of Page in Arizona, which is 2 hours away from MV, will have to suffice. I looked and can't find anything closer.

If anyone knows of anything closer, that would be great.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:25 PM (L2ZTs)

406 >>> 390 Oddbob, does Tahoe sound better or worse to you?
Also when would you prefer it go down? I like June, personally.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:20 PM (L2ZTs)

I can't recall if I mentioned earlier, but WDS is looking at having the CO Morondezvous in April (when it has been scheduled in more normal years). TX is always mid to late October. Now tcn is plotting for AK in July, and you have PNW, NoVA and MI in the mix.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2021 08:25 PM (ACi07)

407 Helena, thanks!

I like the idea of Colorado in April. Maybe I'll just shut up and try to make that. I just hate having to wait another whole year to do something in TX or anywhere else.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:26 PM (L2ZTs)

408 ...it's true, I am *not* Oddbob

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2021 08:27 PM (ACi07)

409 Day 2 range report! Left the Sig in the car. Jesse broke out the S&W 460. Both Steck and Jesse shot it. Wow. It makes a yuge, luxurious BOOM. I watched them in awe and enjoyed chatting a bit with the amazing Steck.

I put a few rounds through the S&W 1917 Jesse gave me. I haven't shot revolvers much, so it feels awkward to me. But I can make holes in the paper, usually pretty close to where I expect them to be.

Satrose had very cool guns and gave expert coaching to some other ettes.

I was/am overwhelmed meeting (and hugging!) so many interesting and gracious people who mean more to me than I can express. Many many thanks to Ben Had, RancherBob, CowHorseQueen, Weasel, and everybody. The Horde is family.

Posted by: screaming in digital (Jesse's Girl) at October 24, 2021 08:27 PM (SK546)

410 Final shot (SWIDT) qdpsteve - There are other things to do in Pahrump, NV wink wink nudge nudge G'night all Really

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at October 24, 2021 08:27 PM (Iw46i)

411 Safe travels Weasel.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 08:28 PM (Y+l9t)

412 Who ended up with the dirtfarmer haikus? I left the saki in my truck. Sorry.

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:28 PM (0OP+5)

413 McGyver, no I know whatcha mean wink wink

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:28 PM (L2ZTs)

414 If anyone knows of anything closer, that would be great.

Maybe there is federal forest land where shooting is permitted? Dunno, just spitballin' here.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:29 PM (nfrXX)

415 PSA PSA. Right now they have a complete AR 15 Carbine length upper for $279 free shipping.

Add it to a complete AR15 lower at $125.

OD green furniture.

That's a complete rifle for just a little over 400 bones. Add a rear sight, sling and mag you can get it all together for about $450.

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 08:29 PM (mbFEM)

416 I suppose I could call some resorts in Monument Valley and ask them about local shooting. If they laugh me off, it's not like I have to give them my real name... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:30 PM (L2ZTs)

417 re Baldwin, one of the first stories I read (maybe here?) was that they were discussing doing another take (hence presence of woman killed) and Baldwin joked "how bout I just shoot you?" and fired what he thought was a safe prop.
If that's true, yikes

Posted by: barbarausa at October 24, 2021 08:30 PM (W7IZQ)

418 Sharon! Hope your trip home was smoothe. NaCly, LCD and myself had great conversation on the trip into Dallas! I always learn something!

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2021 08:30 PM (nxdel)

419 ...it's true, I am *not* Oddbob

Trust me, it ain't all it's cracked up to be.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:31 PM (nfrXX)

420 Just got home, in time for tornado sirens to go off in town.

Yay.

Gotta sign off for now, power is flickering and may have to hunker down in the basement.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 24, 2021 08:31 PM (RU4sa)

421 Oddbob, and here I thought you were Brad Pitt! Dang!

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:32 PM (L2ZTs)

422 Wyoming or northern CO Horde: Anyone want to join me and Jesse at the gun show in Cheyenne Nov. 6? Or dinner after? Shoot me an email...

Posted by: screaming in digital (Jesse's Girl) at October 24, 2021 08:32 PM (SK546)

423 Well, how dumb-ass am I? Reading the blog from Dallas and it starts at 6 Central. Duh.
Posted by: RI Red

RI Red - It was a gas meeting you - thank for the kind, encouraging words to my R. She told me she thought you were quite the gentleman.

She may have been speaking about a different RI Red. Nah, jk - thank you for reaching out to her. She really appreciated it. Me too!

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2021 08:33 PM (PPjCi)

424 Oddbob, and here I thought you were Brad Pitt! Dang!

I don't know which of us is more disappointed. I'm gonna go with me.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:34 PM (nfrXX)

425 This is the earliest close out in the history of the GT.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 08:34 PM (oFUlW)

426 This is the earliest close out in the history of the GT.

I don't want to get on the cart! I'm not dead!

Posted by: The Gun Thread at October 24, 2021 08:36 PM (nfrXX)

427 Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 24, 2021 08:31 PM (RU4sa)

Stay safe SMH!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 08:36 PM (hOUT3)

428 Braenyard, I'd bet that's only because a lot of normal commenters are on the road back home from TX.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:36 PM (L2ZTs)

429 ? I'm barely hanging on. Less than 1/2 a beer left.

Posted by: Infidel at October 24, 2021 08:37 PM (QC3yT)

430 Our crew is back to their respective spots in OK, and TX. Dogs are home from boarding.

Posted by: Aviator at October 24, 2021 08:38 PM (HQ9Sl)

431 417 re Baldwin, one of the first stories I read (maybe here?) was that they were discussing doing another take (hence presence of woman killed) and Baldwin joked "how bout I just shoot you?" and fired what he thought was a safe prop.
If that's true, yikes
Posted by: barbarausa at October 24, 2021 08:30 PM (W7IZQ)

IF that story is true, that meets the legal definition of "Reckless", and that's criminal liability.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 08:38 PM (evAgx)

432 I intend to upgrade to the P365 at some point.
Posted by: blaster
---
blaster, catch me at the right moment and I might pay you to take mine. I can't shoot it worth a damn, but everyone else who's tried it shoots dead center bullseye every time. So it's me not the gun.

Posted by: screaming in digital (Jesse's Girl) at October 24, 2021 08:39 PM (SK546)

433 425 This is the earliest close out in the history of the GT.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 08:34 PM (oFUlW)



The Dandy Don Meredith classic about parties being over...

https://tinyurl.com/3e4ua3fw

Posted by: Gref at October 24, 2021 08:39 PM (AMIL/)

434 I don't want to get on the cart! I'm not dead!
Posted by: The Gun Thread

You will be soon!

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2021 08:41 PM (PPjCi)

435 Gotta sign off for now, power is flickering and may have to hunker down in the basement.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 24, 2021 08:31
--------------------

Be safe,SMH. Wife said tornado touched down in Farmington. Hope Tami's safe.

Posted by: Olddog in mo at October 24, 2021 08:41 PM (ju2Fy)

436 Also just generally check PSAs daily deals page. Their gun prices are INSANE!

Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 08:41 PM (mbFEM)

437 Tomorrow is 'The Cleaning Of The Gubs', a quasi-religious event complete with special garments, incense, chanting, and intricate hand motions. Kinda like a Talking Heads performance but without getting high.

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:41 PM (0OP+5)

438 IF that story is true and if, and only if, you are a Republican/Conservative, that meets the legal definition of "Reckless", and that's criminal liability.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 08:38 PM (evAgx)


FIXT

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 08:42 PM (hOUT3)

439 Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:41 PM (0OP+5)

You just missed the full moon, so I am not sure this will really work as planned!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 08:43 PM (hOUT3)

440 Regardless, AB is the epitome of an arrogant Hollywood liberal, who mocked Dick Cheney's hunting accident, so I can only say... well, I'm trying to be a better Christian, so I won't say anything else.
Posted by: ycrt in TX at October 24, 2021 08:21 PM (49nYE)


I never want to be the bigger person ever again. We can both go to Hell

Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2021 08:46 PM (KbLYZ)

441 not really

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 08:49 PM (huVNL)

442 Heck I just may start wearing suspenders since I am well into geezer range now.
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (0OP+5)

I have well and truly pondered this. I was advised to do it for wearing suits nowadays. (This was not gun-related, merely getting a suit for a higher level job - that didn't last - and the tailor recommending it.) It would obviate the need for the belt to do the holding up part.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:49 PM (excGT)

443 Draki! What did you think of Dune?
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (QHqf9)

Loved it, the lighting was a little too dark at times, but so cinematic I think Weasel would say it needs more guns, but I prefer to keep the knives.

That soundtrack though.....

Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 08:50 PM (JxiZo)

444 439 Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:41 PM (0OP+5)

You just missed the full moon, so I am not sure this will really work as planned!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 08:43 PM
Just defiled some designer crackers with liverwurst and gorgonzola washed down with saki. Iconoclast, that's what I is. Will snailmail you somethign soon I hopes. Now to sleep, perchance to dream.

Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:50 PM (0OP+5)

445 371 Looks like there's a lot of natural beauty in the Page area.

Lake Powell is the Grand Canyon, halfway filled with water. It's incredible.

Posted by: SARDiver at October 24, 2021 08:51 PM (s0DTB)

446 AB pointed the gun and pulled the trigger:

no one else is to blame for his stupidity.

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 08:52 PM (huVNL)

447 I love liverwurst too but the downside is that your breath is ass for the rest of the day. I'm sure gorgonzola doesn't hurt.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 24, 2021 08:53 PM (vuisn)

448 SARDiver, hmmm thanks

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:54 PM (L2ZTs)

449 other's might have prevented the act having the results it did, but, bottom line, he's the one who pulled the trigger, no one else.

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 08:54 PM (huVNL)

450 Hello folks. Late to the thread. Just got to the hotel after getting something to eat. Like Weasel I am in Nashville in an undisclosed location.


Had a GREAT time at the MoMe. Already looking forward to next years. LOL

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 24, 2021 08:54 PM (irTI1)

451 Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 08:29 PM (mbFEM)


I'm on their mailing list. Their stuff is great, IMO. And the "blemished" stuff is a great price and never really anything awful.

I just don't have the space for another 5.56 atm. I'm looking for that .50 Beowulf, though....

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:55 PM (excGT)

452 Just defiled some designer crackers with liverwurst and gorgonzola washed down with saki. Iconoclast, that's what I is. Will snailmail you somethign soon I hopes. Now to sleep, perchance to dream.
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:50 PM (0OP+5)

I get the liverwurst, it's delicious, but sake with it?!

Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 08:55 PM (JxiZo)

453 Hiya, Scoob. Sorry I missed the chance to shoot with you this year.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:56 PM (nfrXX)

454 447 I love liverwurst too but the downside is that your breath is ass for the rest of the day. I'm sure gorgonzola doesn't hurt.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 24, 2021 08:53 PM (vuisn)

Liverwurst with garganzola? add a side of peanut butter and coffee?

Maybe a couple cloves of garlic?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 08:56 PM (csEWM)

455 Liverwurst with garganzola? add a side of peanut butter and coffee?

Maybe a couple cloves of garlic?


Also known as the 'Alec Baldwin platter'.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 08:57 PM (csEWM)

456 On the way home from Texas...
Weasels class taught me although I have shot for 50 plus years, I do not know squat about accurate long distance shooting.
Saturday I took advantage of the open pistol shooting. Shot my model 60, and decided I just don't like it. On the sale/trade pile..
Shot my 422 a bit, SiDs S&W model 1917,and my 460 magnum. Steck was the only person other than me to shoot the 460. I am forever impressed.
All in all a GREAT WEEKEND!!!!
My deepest thanks to every single participant....

Posted by: Jesse in DC at October 24, 2021 08:57 PM (1IxQe)

457 NOOD! ONT is up.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:59 PM (excGT)

458 And... ONT is nood.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:59 PM (nfrXX)

459 I just don't have the space for another 5.56 atm.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:55 PM (excGT)
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i do not understand these words in this order...

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 09:00 PM (huVNL)

460 355 BTW, which of you Morons shooting rifles at 200 yds managed to take down the lower two strands of barb wire right behind the steel? Huh?!
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 08:04 PM (L5e/


Had to have been me, Red, since I was spraying Jak Sucio's ammo all around the 200yd target yet not actually hitting it much.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy Agr8U at October 24, 2021 09:08 PM (yCZVl)

461 400 The drawing gifts were out of control this year! Sadly, I didn't see any of my stuff. Did I miss it? Who won the keychains and the necklace?
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2021 08:23 PM (nxdel)


I have one of the keychains safely squirreled away in my suitcase, ma'am.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy Agr8U at October 24, 2021 09:12 PM (yCZVl)

462 Schnorfle, Rancher Bob just laughed about it and said his guy would take care of it.
I can't believe they have just ONE ranch hand to take care of 1200 acres.

Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 09:15 PM (CJtAX)

463 I can't believe they have just ONE ranch hand to take care of 1200 acres.
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 09:15 PM (CJtAX)


In Texas, they understand the concept of work...

And fortunately for us Morons, they also understand the concept of play!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 09:16 PM (hOUT3)

464 Ja, Hrothgar. Great to see you!

Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 09:20 PM (CJtAX)

465 RI Red!!! Did you get anything this morning?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 24, 2021 09:25 PM (irTI1)

466 465 RI Red!!! Did you get anything this morning?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 24, 2021 09:25 PM (irTI1)
Yes.
Wet.
No ham.

Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 09:31 PM (CJtAX)

467 Well, 5 am wake up to depart Dallas and return to the far north. If I ever have to un-ass northern NH, TX is high on my list.

Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 09:36 PM (CJtAX)

468 i do not understand these words in this order...

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 09:00 PM (huVNL)

LOL. I have other priorities before doubling up on anything. I'd rather have 1 of these and 1 of those and 1 of that one over there and one of these too, than have 14 of those.

Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 10:37 PM (excGT)

469 Well, 5 am wake up to depart Dallas and return to the far north. If I ever have to un-ass northern NH, TX is high on my list.
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 09:36 PM (CJtAX)

You'd be welcome!

Posted by: Probably Not Tacitus at October 24, 2021 10:38 PM (8my6+)

470 Thanks again to everyone who made TXMoMe happen again. I can't overstate how great this event is, and it keeps getting better every time. See y'all next year!

Posted by: Sirius the Canine Pundit at October 25, 2021 01:06 AM (LBO1U)

471 5am Monday and getting ready to point the WeaselMobile north. Have a great day everyone!

Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 25, 2021 04:54 AM (OV/cm)

472 It sure was great to spend the short time I had with y'all at TXMoMe. I have never EVER been some place where the ladies just stepped right up to shoot a .44 magnum snubby. BOOM, flame, grass lays down....smiles. And that's the way it is.

Posted by: SenatorMark4 at October 25, 2021 10:54 AM (DlT2q)

473 I figured out why I don't comment much. I usually hit Ace three times per day (I've got the time...you saw me sorta walking!) but every time I comment from my iPhone I get errored out.
starting /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/cherrypy/_cprequest.py , line 670, in respond response.body = self.handler()
ON the porch, iPhone, too lazy to comment from the house.

Posted by: SenatorMark4 at October 25, 2021 11:03 AM (DlT2q)

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