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Gun Thread: Howdy From Texas Edition!
A: Weasel! Weasel are deep in the heart of Texas!! That's right, I am writing this on Tuesday after arriving at the beautiful ranch belonging to Rancher Bob and Cow Horse Queen late Monday afternoon. The trip down is a full two days, and although it's a pretty drive, there is a lot of it! Anyhoo, went to dinner last night with Ben Had, RB, and CHQ, then sat around an outdoor fire solving the problems of the word and catching up since last year. They are truly wonderful people, and other than displaying the questionable intelligence of inviting me into their home, are the kind of folks I'm proud to have as friends. Anyhoo, as you are reading this Sunday I will be on my way back to Virginia with another incredible Texas MoMe in the books. We'll have laughed, and we'll have cried. We'll have eaten, drinken, and been merry. Since I am writing this in advance I will not have time to include details of the MoMe, but you are welcome to discuss all the fun in the comments below this evening, and I will include a Post MoMe Discussion & Analysis section next week! Post TXMoMe Sunday Update: Made it to Nashville. Ho-lee Shitballs!!! How much fun was that?!?! I'm still trying to absorb the events of the last few days, and I'm still pretty much speechless after last evening. You all are the BEST, and I love you all. I will have a more complete thank you next Sunday! With that, let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?
Re-Run O' Rama!
I hinted at this last Sunday, but I need to put this together sort of quickly so we can start preparing later today for the TXMoMe beginning Friday. I have decided I am best suited for a supervisory role which does not involve a lot of actual work, so after unloading guns n' ammo n' my lawn chair from the car, I'll pretty much finished with my part of the process and will be patiently waiting on everyone else to hurry the hell up with their stuff. Supervisin' is hard work! For those of you attending, the weather forecast is just about perfect. Daytime highs in the 80s and evenings in the 60s with a breeze which can make it cool. Also, breezy during the day which will give us some interesting wind problems to solve on the range! I am really looking forward to everyone getting here, saying hello and doing some shooting together! Hurry up, Y'all! Gun Thread: November 4, 2018
1999 Springfield Armory, Inc. M1A Loaded Model I have to admit I think this may be my favorite rifle. I just like everything about it. It's well balanced, fun to shoot, fun to look at, sort of fun to clean (not really), and makes it seem like I know what I'm doing on a rifle range. Pointy end downrange, right? The M1A is the semi-automatic civilian version of the M14. Chambered in .308 Winchester or 7.62x51mm NATO, the fully automatic M14 was introduced as a replacement for the M1 Garand beginning in 1959, and served as the U.S. battle rifle until the arrival of the M16 around 1964. The M14 continues to be used by specialized units to this day. In 1974, Springfield Armory, Inc., a private corporation headquartered in Genesco, IL., began production of the M1A. Offering several different models with an array of features; the M1A remains popular with competitive shooters, marksmen, hunters and sportsmen alike. The M1A 'Loaded' model pictured above includes as standard a number of match grade components including a National Match barrel, front and rear sights and two stage military trigger. Although not standard on the Loaded model, this particular rifle has a custom bedding job and was very clearly someone's well cared for match rifle. Although I haven't done any scientific measuring, with decent ammo off a bench I think this is probably very close to a 1 MOA rifle. Did I mention it was fun to shoot?
Interesting Variation on Classic IWB Carry
Anyone else use the Advanced Lower Back Muzzle Peekaboo style for concealed carry? A few weeks ago we talked about buying a first gun, and today I'd like to discuss carry permits and carrying a weapon. I firmly believe that the single best carry gun in the universe is the one you actually have with you when you need it. Regardless of caliber, sights, custom trigger and all the rest, the gun you left at home in your sock drawer isn't going to do you a whole lot of good when the unexpected occurs. This is why some gun owners get a concealed weapon permit and then carry a concealed weapon. Before we begin the usual banter and fun commentary, a serious note:
Not everyone wants or needs to carry a gun, and if you aren't comfortable doing so, then you are one who probably shouldn't consider it. I'd feel better if you did, but it's a big responsibility, and not something to ever be taken casually. Carrying a gun is a very serious business and needs to be treated as such. If the unthinkable occurs and God forbid you use a weapon to defend yourself or others, in the time it takes to pull the trigger you will have changed your life, and presumably the target's life, forever. Think about that. As I write this, reports are just coming in of another horrific mass shooting, this time at a nightclub in Thousand Oaks, California. What drove the person to commit such a heinous acts will probably never be known. However, I think it's safe to say we do know a couple of important facts; we will never be able to un-invent, or confiscate, all the guns, and just one properly trained and armed person in a crowd of hundreds would have at least had a chance to stop the massacre. Think about that, too. OK, end of Mr. Serious-Pants.
I live in Virginia, and like many states today, at one time it was nearly impossible to get a concealed carry permit here. Things have changed, and today as long as you pass a background check and can demonstrate competency with a firearm, you should be approved for a permit. For me the process was straightforward; submit fingerprints with an application, show that I'd attended a brief but practical course on the topic, and pay a fee to the city where I live. A few weeks later, the permit came in the mail. There are going to be some variables to the process based on where you live but Virginia is likely representative of other "shall issue" states, where one must only meet the criteria specified in the law and is not required to demonstrate a subjective 'need' to be considered for approval. Do you have a permit? For those living in "may issue" states, what was the 'need' you specified and how were you required to support the claim? What to Carry
You've gone through the process of obtaining a permit to carry a concealed weapon, and your next decision is likely what As I mentioned above, any gun is better than no gun. I would much rather be armed with some puny girly-man caliber handgun than relying on throwing bags of Fritos and Slim Jims at the bad guy holding up the gas station late at night. So which handgun is my carry gun, you ask? Well using my super-genius reasoning, they're all candidates, with varying degrees of suitability. My main carry gun is one designed for the job, a Kimber Compact Custom in 45 ACP with a 4 inch barrel.
Kimber Compact Custom
Another handgun that I carry is a revolver, the S&W Model 686 in .357 Magnum with a 2 1/2 inch barrel. I carry this gun mostly at the farm with the first two or three cylinders loaded with rat or snake shot. Haven't had to use it yet.
Smith & Wesson Model 686
Now you've gone through the process of obtaining a permit to carry a concealed weapon and found the ideal weapon to carry - so what are your options for carrying it around? Most people like to use holsters, but other options do exist. Like a handbag or purse for girls, and the man bag or satchel (*snicker*) for boys. There's even a rig employing the under-bewb or frontal overhang region as a concealment area for the ladies (and some of the gentlemen). All sorts of contraptions exist to conceal a firearm, but in my opinion, the farther you get away from a simple and straightforward sidearm holster, the less useable the firearm becomes. Unless of course you're a super-badass quickdrawing mo-fo with cat-like reflexes, of which the internet breeds many. And don't forget that states have very specific definitions for weapons in vehicles and what is considered 'concealment' - know the laws wherever and however you travel. I prefer Outside Waist Band (OWB) holsters over Inside Waist Band (IWB). They seem to be more comfortable to me, but both work. The best holster for you is the one that's comfortable FOR YOU, and isn't such a miserable experience you're tempted to leave the whole mess at home to begin with. Ask around and don't be surprised if you have to try a few over time to get one that feels right.
No worries - That'll buff out!
Over the years, I have reloaded a lot of handgun and rifle ammunition, and have had a squib load block the barrel exactly once. When it happened, I could tell the recoil and sound were completely wrong and fortunately didn't pull the trigger again. After making the gun safe I took a peek and could see the bullet resting peacefully about 1/4 inch from the end of the barrel just waiting to cause a disaster. Ruh Roh!
What had happened is this; I was load testing and measuring muzzle velocity in a series of cartridges with decreasing powder charges, and although still above the published minimum, this particular round didn't make it out of the barrel. Muzzle velocity = 0 feet per second. Test concluded. There are a couple of lessons here. First, pay attention to what the hell is going on while you're shooting. It is possible to become so focused on the target, and looking good for the range babes, that you lose sight of everything else. If something jams, or breaks, or sounds and feels different, stop pulling the trigger and investigate. If you're a new shooter and not quite sure what to do, put the gun down pointed in a safe direction and call over the RSO. Explain what you think is going on and let them help you. Second, be very careful when reloading. Things can go wrong even when you haven't done anything overtly retarded. I was trying to find a lower velocity accuracy node and while I was technically above the minimum published load, apparently the bullet didn't get the memo. If I hadn't realized what had happened, I could have turned an annoyance (tapping the bullet out later) into a big mess - ruining the barrel of a nice revolver, or worse.
How is This Even Possible?
Reloading can be fun and a rewarding part of shooting. For competitive shooters it can be a necessity, and for normal people it can be an economical way to shoot more and not be totally dependent on retail ammunition supply. It can also turn a fun day at the range into a complete nightmare if you are not absolutely focused on the job at hand while at the reloading bench. I'm pretty cautious by nature, and even more so while I'm reloading. Just as there are safety rules to follow while handling firearms, some must also be followed while reloading. First, I allow zero distractions. Realizing my limited mental faculties do not permit me to do two things at once, I don't watch TV or listen to the radio while I'm reloading. I don't even want anyone talking to me while I'm at the reloading bench, and will stop what I'm doing if a distraction presents itself. I pause at each step and check my work.
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:00 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2021 06:02 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:00 PM (2JoB
Guess the others are still eating bacon.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2021 06:03 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:03 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: casual observer 1024 at October 24, 2021 06:04 PM (jTmQV)
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:04 PM (5WP7x)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2021 06:04 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 06:05 PM (JxiZo)
Two "gub" related anecdotes...
Honda: I shoot pistols left-handed and rifles right handed
Eromero: You're all kinds of messed up
Honda: Pretty much
Jim NSD: "Remember to close the gate, there are bulls involved"
Posted by: Honda at October 24, 2021 06:06 PM (R7LyT)
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:06 PM (nfrXX)
Lots of good ones out there but it's the best.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 06:07 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 24, 2021 06:07 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2021 06:07 PM (ACi07)
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:04 PM (5WP7x)
Well, I don't have much to contribute to the thread anymore. Haven't shot in ages. But I appreciate the info.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2021 06:07 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:08 PM (csEWM)
THE AMMO MUST FLOW
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 24, 2021 06:08 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 06:08 PM (excGT)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:10 PM (ONvIw)
It was also nice meeting Weasel and getting his autograph in my copy of The Deplorable Gourmet. Now it's a collector's item!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2021 06:10 PM (K5n5d)
Lots of good ones out there but it's the best.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 06:07 PM (axyOa)
I'd say it's fantastic outside of buildings, I'd want a carbine for inside a building, lots of infantry action inside of buildings these days.
Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 06:10 PM (JxiZo)
The shorter, stouter op rod compared to the M-1 was a definite improvement. The box mag vs. enbloc clip is debatable.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:11 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:10 PM (ONvIw)
Hmmm, I would think that would be an awesome gift. Do you buy the same gun or one for one and one for the other? Rifle and pistol?
Have to figure out how to do that two pieces of heart medallion thing in there.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:12 PM (csEWM)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at October 24, 2021 06:12 PM (Dc2NZ)
Many battles in black powder period infantry in hear of Battle would have a squib kind of load, lots of reasons it could happen, then continue to load another and sometimes another round. It had to sometimes be catastrophic.
Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:12 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:13 PM (ONvIw)
Sad times. It is half the size it was two years ago.
They did have ammo but horrible prices. Many of the links Weasel has above are far less pricy.
Weapon prices were high as well. Too high IMO.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 06:13 PM (axyOa)
THE AMMO MUST FLOW
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 24, 2021 06:08 PM (CdZ4i)
And don't forget getting ltc insurance.
Thanks weasal for the few minutes you spent walking me through the basics. Next year I will be ready to partake long distance clinics.
Posted by: Redchief at October 24, 2021 06:14 PM (bVGsy)
Weapon prices were high as well. Too high IMO.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 06:13 PM (axyOa)
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 24, 2021 06:15 PM (CdZ4i)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 24, 2021 06:16 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:16 PM (5WP7x)
Not here unless something drastic has happened in the last week. 9mm is usually available and for less than it has been in a while but still at least 2X pre-vid prices. No .38 spl or .44 mag at any price.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:16 PM (nfrXX)
Hey yo Honda! Great letting you and Mrs. Honda this weekend!
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2021 06:17 PM (p40Pc)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 24, 2021 06:17 PM (ybIRR)
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:17 PM (xunV5)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 24, 2021 06:17 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 06:18 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 06:18 PM (JxiZo)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 24, 2021 06:19 PM (QU5/8)
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I was rolling right along, no doubt about it.
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:19 PM (5WP7x)
Pasture Distances
From where the back porch will be to the first tree line: 1584 ft., aka 530 yds. Not to the inch.
From the back porch with a dogleg right to the National Grasslands fence, which would require cutting down four trees - 2112 ft., aka 700 yds.
Looks like I'm stuck with 530 yds.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: JuJuBee at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (mNhhD)
Well, I didn't spend that kind of $$$ on my own kid's wedding gifts but if money is no object, why not. There are obviously federal issues if you and they are not residents of the same state. Even if you are, it might be better to go to the gun shop, tell them what you want, pay for it, and then have the recipients go do the paperwork themselves.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (xunV5)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 24, 2021 06:19 PM (QU5/
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Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (csEWM)
All y'all. Thank you so very much for your time and encouragement. You're the best.
Oh and Scuba Dude!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (U2p+3)
Eromero and Jim NSD did their usual exemplary job running the pistol range. They are the definition of perfection that Glock can only fantasize about obtaining.
I personally did little shooting, but stood by while a few shooters tried a couple of items I brought. I left with two significant observations.
I think very highly of the Sig P-365 as a carry piece. For me, it is small, and punches significantly above its weight accuracy-wise. However, a couple of shooters had issues with initial accuracy, and more significantly one kept hitting the magazine release, while another had difficultly manipulating it. Basically, an object lesson that what's right for one person won't be for another, and you're well off trying as many as possible before buying.
The second observation is that nurse ratched can shoot a 1911, with 23 of 24 rounds going into ~1.5" at ~ 11 yards. She shot so well that the steel target cried uncle after 12 rounds, and fell off its stand.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2021 06:21 PM (a3Q+t)
Weasel, I also noted you're pulling the sling tight when shooting in that position. What's your reasoning for doing that? (I can think of a couple.) [Yeah, Weasel ain't here. I'm hoping he reads the comments and responds next week.]
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 06:21 PM (excGT)
Posted by: JuJuBee
Diversity over qualified.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 06:22 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:22 PM (5WP7x)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 24, 2021 06:22 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: JuJuBee at October 24, 2021 06:20 PM (mNhhD)
I saw a video of a girl that they said was her, but I don't know if it's real. She looked like she belongs to be on an ace post for the libs of tik tok.
Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 06:22 PM (JxiZo)
Thank you for the hugs!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 06:23 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 06:23 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:23 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:23 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:24 PM (L0p0o)
Well, if you're a certain kind of former Marine, and encounter a certain kind of soy boy robber, you can just push his gun out of the way and give him a solid haymaker, then take _his_ gun away. All while not even letting go of your Slim Jims and Fritos. (I'm sure you've all seen the video.)
Kudos to that Marine. And Epstein didn't kill himself.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 06:24 PM (excGT)
Not everyone wants or needs a carry permit, and if you aren't comfortable doing so, then you are one who probably shouldn't consider it. I'd feel better if you didn't, but it's a big responsibility, and not something to ever be taken casually. Having a carry permit is a very serious business and needs to be treated as such. If the unthinkable occurs and God forbid you put yourself on a list....
Move to a free state that observes Constitutional Carry. I believe we're up to 23 states now. Even Texas finally got on board with it.
- From the Free State of Missouri
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 24, 2021 06:25 PM (COPCI)
I practice with the carry guns at seven to ten yards and can reliably keep a 2 inch or less group rapid fire. That size group took some time to learn, it wasn't without effort.
Posted by: JTB at October 24, 2021 06:25 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:24 PM (L0p0o)
We know you have many choices in MOMEs and we thank you for choosing ours. Please don't forget to tip your bacon and ammo stewardesses.
Posted by: MOME Cap'n Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (csEWM)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 24, 2021 06:08 PM (CdZ4i)
What is LTC, please?
Posted by: Emmie at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (6RgRK)
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That was a really goofy setup and I was just trying to lock it in a little.
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (5WP7x)
According to Brandon Herrera, the AK Guy, Ms. Gutierrez admitted she wasn't up to the task of managing the firearms on the Set of Rust, remarking that she doesn't know how to load a gun with blanks?!?!
Posted by: PacosMojo at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (1Fv0G)
Someone posted a link in the food thread to a vid of a guy talking about it. She is clearly not mature enough for the kind of responsibility the job requires. It's also clear that others on the set, including AB, were not treating firearms with the respect they deserved. They were all playing with gasoline and matches.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (csEWM)
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (xunV5)
According to Brandon Herrera, the AK Guy, Ms. Gutierrez admitted she wasn't up to the task of managing the firearms on the Set of Rust, remarking that she doesn't know how to load a gun with blanks?!?!
Posted by: PacosMojo at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (1Fv0G)
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Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (csEWM)
Posted by: rancherbob at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (gtu9W)
Bad news: it probably won't be Baldwin.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 06:28 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: JTB at October 24, 2021 06:28 PM (7EjX1)
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It's starting to look that way. Prices are still pretty steep, but you can find it!
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:28 PM (5WP7x)
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (xunV5)
Thank you, Whig! You are a veritable fount of knowledge.
Posted by: Emmie at October 24, 2021 06:28 PM (6RgRK)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 24, 2021 06:22 PM (Xrfse)
My wife has one but it has more punch than I can handle.
Posted by: Jeb Bush at October 24, 2021 06:28 PM (JxiZo)
Doubt you get much professionalism from Leftists.
No doubt she will get the brunt of the anger and lawsuits from this, I still don't but the burden on her no matter what she did or didn't do. The trigger man gets my anger.
Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:29 PM (2JoB8)
I don't have an M1A but do have a Polytech M-14S. Pre-ban, rumor was back in the day Red China was gonna ship these to the PI to supply the commies causing trouble on the islands but changed their minds.
Norinco and Polytech M14 clones are big in America's Hat as they were not on the prohibited list. They may be now due to Fidel's illegitimate son.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2021 06:29 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: rancherbob at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (gtu9W)
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Yes Sir! I was thinking about it in the car and making detailed notes on a McDonalds napkin.
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:29 PM (5WP7x)
You and Jennifer are just amazing. Thank y'all for the hugs and the hospitality. And for letting me tag along with you.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 06:29 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:30 PM (L0p0o)
Blank powders are very fast powders generating a lot of hot gas and pressure in a hurry and can blow up a pistol if not careful or if there is a barrel obstruction.
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:30 PM (xunV5)
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:30 PM (06EEn)
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:31 PM (06EEn)
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:31 PM (06EEn)
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:32 PM (06EEn)
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:32 PM (5WP7x)
Posted by: Jak Sucio at October 24, 2021 06:32 PM (jvt6t)
Some places also have knife permits or weapons permits including knives.
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:32 PM (xunV5)
Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 06:33 PM (2JoB8)
Not arguing, but can you point me to a reference for this? Hatcher's book has a picture of an earlier JCG design that uses a box mag but the design that became the M-1 used the enbloc even when it was still in .276 Pederson.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:33 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:33 PM (06EEn)
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (06EEn)
Posted by: rancherbob at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (gtu9W)
Posted by: ck at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (iBg56)
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Likewise! It was absolutely my pleasure.
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (5WP7x)
Legal Insurrection.
Fauci's NIH funded 'research' in Tunisia that tortured and killed Beagle puppies.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (sIDEA)
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (06EEn)
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (06EEn)
Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: PacosMojo at October 24, 2021 06:35 PM (1Fv0G)
I wouldn't unless they are both experienced firearms enthusiasts. I'm nervous about giving a gun to most anyone really.
Posted by: The Daily Maul at October 24, 2021 06:35 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: f'd at October 24, 2021 06:36 PM (Tnijr)
Legal Insurrection.
Fauci's NIH funded 'research' in Tunisia that tortured and killed Beagle puppies.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (sIDEA)
Yeah the docs do lots of crazy studies and it's very sickening. Outsourcing it makes it easier to hide too. Don't look up chimeras.
Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 06:37 PM (JxiZo)
Posted by: Emmie at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (6RgRK)
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License To Carry
You only need it in certain places. Look at your state laws.
I recommend against a government permission slip for concealed carry. If you want to take classes then you should, but getting your name on a list of "Concealed Carry license holders" is sub-optimal.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 24, 2021 06:38 PM (COPCI)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:38 PM (L0p0o)
That makes more sense, but given the position she was hired on as, her competency around all aspects of firearms/ammunition should've been top notch. Especially given that her dad is a famous firearms technician in the movie industry.
Posted by: PacosMojo at October 24, 2021 06:38 PM (1Fv0G)
BUT, when it comes to charging the case I pay strict attention. No TV, music or radio. No conversations. Leave me alone! I am a very anti-social powder dispenser. Since I seat the bullet right after charging the case, that's part of the anti-social time.
I have never had a squib load following this process and would like to maintain that record.
Posted by: JTB at October 24, 2021 06:38 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 06:39 PM (UHVv4)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:39 PM (sIDEA)
This is from National Park Service which operates the original government Springfield Armory as a national park. You can view the prototypes there I believe if still on display.
https://tinyurl.com/fmn5m2us
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:40 PM (xunV5)
That's so I can shoot my way back to the trunk of my car where I've got my AR Pistol chambered in 300BLK with a silencer and 220 gr subsonics packed into 4 full mags.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 24, 2021 06:40 PM (COPCI)
Posted by: McGyver at October 24, 2021 06:40 PM (Iw46i)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2021 06:41 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:42 PM (L0p0o)
Every time I try and write something about The Texas experience, I get so emotional, I am at a loss for words.
So, I will do a brief range report.
There was a little more structure to the handgun morning session on Friday. Starting at the civilized hour of 11(vs Weasel at 8 am) we had a brief but highly instructive class in the basics. Oddly, the Alec Baldwin shooting was a prime example that came up while we were discussing the 4 rules.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 06:42 PM (Y+l9t)
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I'd be pretty wary if I was invited to a neck tie party in Texas!
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 06:43 PM (UHVv4)
Posted by: rancherbob at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM
Y'all are just the best folks ever, Sir and Madam! Thank you from the bottom of my heart heart heart. (remember Hee-Haw?).
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 06:43 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:43 PM (sIDEA)
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:44 PM (mbFEM)
A TxMoMe is a three-fer:
1. A fabulous party with fabulous folks,
2. An opportunity to meet and talk with the host, the fabulously fabulous Ben Had, and,
3. A World-Class beginners shooting tutorial, by Weasel, with one-on-one on-range teaching, all included in the price of admission! (wink)
Yowza!
Posted by: Gref at October 24, 2021 06:44 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:45 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: IC at October 24, 2021 06:45 PM (Nyumu)
Posted by: Anna Puma"
This came up a few months ago didn't it?
Posted by: f'd at October 24, 2021 06:45 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (eeRB6)
Well if they come back in stock any time soon.
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (mbFEM)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (NacE+)
Jim NSD, range master and instructor, Steck, Nurse, Helena Handbasket and Eromero....I mean seriously people, has there ever been such talent in one place.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (csEWM)
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (w3Jsn)
Even 22LR is off the charts.
Two of mine are 38SPL/35MAG and 45ACP, both of which mean every round fired costs a buck.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (4ZE6o)
Posted by: JuJuBee
Diversity over qualified.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 06:22 PM (OCTRt)
And a whole lot of nepotism.
Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (nbpCi)
Weasel's words are correct: btw, you should also only have the powder jug that you are using right then to load on your reloading surface and same for primers. I personally write the cartridge type, oal, primer, powder charge in grains, date loaded, and specific bullets either on a sticker label or on some cardboard and foam ammo boxes that you can get online at reloading supply stores.
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (xunV5)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 06:48 PM (f2FY8)
Gun fired just fine, about 140 .22 rounds.
Then fired 50 115gr JHP Fiocci ammo, which was nicely grouped, though the P-07 shots a little low in the 115gr, it prefers the 124 for POA impact.
Great fun.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:48 PM (eeRB6)
Being a Texan, whether native, adopted, or honorary, is not all fun and games. It comes with a number of traditions and responsibilities, one of which is captured in the phrase "One riot, one round". Now, there are, unfortunately, some rounds (*cough* 9mm *cough*that cannot be counted on, however beloved they are by certain misinformed Smart Military Blog commenters. So, to make sure Weasel could meet any immediate need to fulfill said obligation, he was issued a round of .45 ACP.
As he accepted, huzzahs erupted, welcoming Weasel as a fellow Texan.
Well done, and well-deserved, Weasel!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2021 06:48 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (06EEn)
Hey Howard, how's it hanging!
Posted by: Zombie Lou Saban, Not That Asshole Nick at October 24, 2021 06:49 PM (R/m4+)
Did not manage to spend much time with you but I always enjoy when we do. Thanks for your help and hope to see you again soon. Tell the Misses hello!
Posted by: rancherbob at October 24, 2021 06:49 PM (gtu9W)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:49 PM (L0p0o)
Even 22LR is off the charts.
Two of mine are 38SPL/35MAG and 45ACP, both of which mean every round fired costs a buck.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (4ZE6o)
Where are you shopping???
Sgammo has .45 ACP for about .60/round and .22 is about twice pre-panic prices, but that's not prohibitive.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:49 PM (eeRB6)
Prepare to make some relatively expensive bad choices. Don't try to make a bunch of cheap choices they won't really work out and it might skew your view of a type that might work well for you but the poor execution says no.
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:50 PM (mbFEM)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 06:42 PM (L0p0o)
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He did!!
Gref - thank you. Always a pleasure to get to shoot with you.
I need to grab dinner. Back later.
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:50 PM (5WP7x)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 06:46 PM (csEWM)
That or a prototype of Room 101
Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2021 06:51 PM (KbLYZ)
Jesse and I started the day with Weasel's excellent mid range shooting class. Of course, it was WAY beyond my ability and understanding at this point, but good to start learning. Neither of us attempted to shoot at the rifle range, though. Then we took Jim SND's awesome intro pistol class and headed to the pistol range. I've taken classes before, but Jim's explanation of sight alignment was especially helpful to me.
I wanted to work with my Sig P365. Lately I've been absolutely awful with it. Both Jim and Eromero (who is perhaps the most patient and levelheaded person I've ever met) gave me very good corrections. Sadly, I'm still terrible, horrible, no good, very bad with this gun, (1 shot of 20 on paper). Everyone else was awesome!
Have to go eat now but will follow up with Day 2 range report later (my shooting experience was somewhat better)
Posted by: screaming in digital (Jesse's Girl) at October 24, 2021 06:51 PM (SK546)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:52 PM (sIDEA)
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Vanity Fair is covering it now so the MFM has to pay some attention to it. The two-puppies' photo doesn't help either.
[tweet] Anthony Fauci Is Funding Experiments on Aborted Baby Scalps and Livers
https://tinyurl.com/ychb4dha
Second tweet.
https://tinyurl.com/zfbxu2fb
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 06:52 PM (UHVv4)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 06:52 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2021 06:51 PM (KbLYZ)
All things considered, I'd rather be in Room 222.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2021 06:53 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy Agr8U at October 24, 2021 06:53 PM (yCZVl)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:54 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:54 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:52 PM (sIDEA)
+1
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:54 PM (eeRB6)
The T1920 is the one pictured in Hatcher but it's a different enough design from the (eventual) M-1 that it's hard to call it a prototype. It's not even gas operated. The T20 shown in the linked article is, according to the article itself, a modification JCG did in 1944.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 06:54 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Jak Sucio at October 24, 2021 06:55 PM (jvt6t)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:34 PM (sIDEA)
BREAKING NEWS! Anthony Fauci Tortures Snoopy To Death
Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2021 06:55 PM (nbpCi)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:55 PM (sIDEA)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 06:55 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 06:56 PM (NacE+)
Just keep shooting, and keep the range short (15 feet or so). Accuracy will come with practice.
Posted by: PacosMojo at October 24, 2021 06:56 PM (1Fv0G)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 06:54 PM (eeRB6)
I posted earlier in the week about this crime. Larry has many irreplaceable and historical weapons.
This apparently happened in August 2021 and no one has the dope yet on what actually went down.
Plus Larry is ill and no one has heard his take yet.
ATF is bad juju.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2021 06:56 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:10 PM (ONvIw)
Oh hayel yes! A slightly expensive wedding gift*, but a great one!
(* Compared to buying 2 plates or a soup tureen out of the registry. Or a chafing dish.**)
(** Movie reference.)
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 06:56 PM (excGT)
Posted by: IC at October 24, 2021 06:57 PM (Nyumu)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy Agr8U at October 24, 2021 06:57 PM (yCZVl)
Sounds like the TxMoMe was fun and that Weasel did the same great job teaching like he did on the Dream Date.
The pictures can't really do the Springfield M1A justice. She's a gorgeous rifle and a sweet shooter.
Posted by: Thicc Boi at October 24, 2021 06:57 PM (zThcc)
My "cause" is an online stalker who outed and cancelled me in the 2012 campaign. Ruined my career, cost me work and friends, but gave me cause to carry. So break even?
Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at October 24, 2021 06:58 PM (+W8+H)
Well done, and well-deserved, Weasel!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2021 06:48 PM (a3Q+t)
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Thank you all, so much!
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 06:58 PM (5WP7x)
Posted by: Probably Not Tacitus at October 24, 2021 06:58 PM (8my6+)
Sra blaster carries a P365 in an IWB Kydex at about 2 o clock.
I intend to upgrade to the P365 at some point.
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:59 PM (mbFEM)
Prepare to make some relatively expensive bad choices. Don't try to make a bunch of cheap choices they won't really work out and it might skew your view of a type that might work well for you but the poor execution says no.
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:50 PM
This! If you are willing to pay near or better than 1k for a handgun, don't carry it in a $25 holster.
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 06:59 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 06:59 PM (sIDEA)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (eeRB6)
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For sure, if you can buy in BULK, ammoseek is the way to go. Ammograb sometimes has better pricing, but it's on smaller quantities (<200 rds).
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (COPCI)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: IC at October 24, 2021 06:57 PM (Nyumu)
. . . Moved into Assisted Living to survive only on his Social Security Pension. Bonus if it is in a state which remains locked down for Covid.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (KbLYZ)
Posted by: Been Lurking at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (rDgjh)
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (QHqf9)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2021 06:56 PM (R/m4+)
Thanks for the info, sir.
And yes, the ATF is pretty much an enemy to the rest of the country.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (eeRB6)
Prepare to make some relatively expensive bad choices. Don't try to make a bunch of cheap choices they won't really work out and it might skew your view of a type that might work well for you but the poor execution says no.
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:50 PM
This! If you are willing to pay near or better than 1k for a handgun, don't carry it in a $25 holster.
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 06:59 PM (0OP+5)
Upgrade your belt first.
Posted by: weirdflunky at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (cknjq)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (L0p0o)
May I recommend next year an effigy of an Ewok be erected and burned on the final night?
Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (nbpCi)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 06:10 PM (ONvIw)
Oh hayel yes! A slightly expensive wedding gift*, but a great one!
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 06:56 PM (excGT)
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You can get really reasonably priced concealment furniture on Etsy. Depending on your price range, you could give someone a safe stash spot as a night stand.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (COPCI)
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (L5e/8)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (U2p+3)
So you're going to start cheating on your PPQ?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 07:03 PM (mbFEM)
Mucho thanks to Eromero, who, anchoring the right-side of the pistol line, helped ensure safety and a good time by all. And *special thanks* to the volunteer RSOs who stood, one each behind every new/ish handgun shooter, and guar-an-damn-teed a safe and fun time by all!
Salute to SatRose, who on Saturday freshened up the firing line a bit with some drills for the ladies with handgun and carbine, both. Finally, a "not worthy" bow towards Nurse Ratched, whom one ought NOT piss off in general, and damn sure not when she's got a 1911 in hand. "You can run but you'd die tired", a classic snipers' trope, applies to her skills when the .45ACP is turned targetward.
Mazel Tov and God Bless Y'all, Horde!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 24, 2021 07:03 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 07:03 PM (2JoB8)
"Well it's dry, windy, hot, dangerous, and full of Fremen. Great resort destination, not" - Duncan Idaho.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:03 PM (sIDEA)
Posted by: jackcoke at October 24, 2021 07:03 PM (xxJ+H)
Which is an AoSHQ version of the traditional "One Riot, One Ranger".
Weasel can "curve" bullets like in the movie "Wanted" so for him it is One Riot, One Round. The rioters just need to be organized neatly into a perfect circle and be the same height.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:04 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 07:04 PM (WF/xn)
Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at October 24, 2021 06:58 PM (+W8+H)
Damn. That's pretty messed up. Sorry to hear that.
Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2021 07:04 PM (nbpCi)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (U2p+3)
So you're going to start cheating on your PPQ?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October
CBD has a PPQ in .45.
I may be conflicted.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:04 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (nbpCi)
Calling the Horde to battle? Might send the wrong message...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 07:04 PM (csEWM)
Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2021 07:04 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: JTB at October 24, 2021 06:25 PM (7EjX1)
And there's my problem with concealed carry, in general. I need to tuck in my shirts at church and at work, so I look professional. And that really complicates the options. I'm pondering the sport coat look now that fall temps are finally dropping here.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:05 PM (excGT)
Preceding this movie she was principal armourer on a Nic Cage movie, that's the movie where she was nervous. I think first time for most anything is a bit nervy.
There is also, in the chain of command, an affects supervisor, don't know where his responsibility is.
However, the Assistant Director is the man who handed Baldwin the gun and called it Cold.
It would have taken him about two seconds to rotate the cylinder to assure there were no cartrdges before calling it Cold.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 07:05 PM (oFUlW)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 07:05 PM (WF/xn)
Posted by: PacosMojo at October 24, 2021 06:26 PM (1Fv0G)
How do you get a REALLY big version of the :O emoji here? That's your one friggin' job as a prop master with guns!
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (excGT)
Sra blaster carries a P365 in an IWB Kydex at about 2 o clock.
I intend to upgrade to the P365 at some point.
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 06:59 PM (mbFEM)
***
Ditto with the Keltec. I really like it.
I use a simple pocket holster...but not because my pants are fitting too tight.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (QHqf9)
was the glowie easy to spot? :-)
I've been saying he was wearing Ray-Bans and shimmering purple zentai...
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (L0p0o)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:07 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 07:07 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 24, 2021 07:08 PM (COPCI)
205 Maud'dib, Brother, what can I say. The door prizes were stupendous! Thank you is never enough. The flasks were amazing as all the other stuff was but WOW.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (L0p0o)
Glad folks liked it Sister. I trust the flasks were put to immediate use?
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 24, 2021 07:08 PM (QHqf9)
Thanks for the thread, as always.
Went to the range today with a neighbor. I was very happy with my shooting at 21 and 30 feet, with my handgun.
Neighbor had a new S&W Compact(IIRC). Sometimes it was not going into battery. I suggested he might be limp wristing it. Neighbor thought I was crazy. Just then the RO came over. Neighbor asked him. And the RO suggested same limp wristing idea. Neighbor acknowledged my gun thread divined knowledge. Made me happy.
Also, we practiced with my Mantis device.
Posted by: MikeM at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (X+eRS)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (sIDEA)
I know, let's immobilize Fauxi and cut his vocal cords so the Tunisian sand-fleas can eat in peace.
Run away! Run away!
Posted by: Tunisian sand-fleas at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (63Dwl)
Someone has to go down for this murder, and since Baldwin, the actor, cries real well and can pull off a very convincing show of contrition and remorse, some minion to the flunky is going to get framed with the rap.
Baldwin can afford more justice than anyone else on the set - he'll walk.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (+LCoQ)
Upgrade your belt first.
Posted by: weirdflunky at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (cknjq)
This is very good advice that often goes unmentioned
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (WF/xn)
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:27 PM (xunV5)
Yep. In Virginia it's a CHP. Not California Highway Patrol, but Concealed Handgun Permit. Or, as it's written on the card, "Permit to carry a handgun concealed."
And yes, it is ONLY a permit to carry a concealed handgun. Which seems kindof silly to me.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:10 PM (excGT)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:10 PM (U2p+3)
Why would they make a film of a programming language? Sounds boring.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:10 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:11 PM (sIDEA)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 06:28 PM (L2ZTs)
Maybe not, but he will end up being the one sued: lots of money, he pulled the trigger, AND he's the PRODUCER. I'm guessing he hired the non-union "armorer".
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (excGT)
Envy all around. Fortunately there was absolutely no problem finding a way to fill the flasks multiple times.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (+LCoQ)
I keep having to tell myself, Baldwin's life can be made quite painful even without jail...
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (sIDEA)
And yes, the ATF is pretty much an enemy to the rest of the country.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (eeRB6)
Your welcome Mark! Hard to find info, looks like the people who did this are keeping it on the down low.
Larry is not a man to be trifled with, so it smells to high heaven it happened while he is fighting for his life. I had seen some of his items for sale last year which was a little odd.
Keep your head down and keep looking for answers.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM (R/m4+)
I think I saw the second sequel in college, RPG III.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: weirdflunky at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM
If I'm wearing jeans it's a Crossbreed brand gunbelt. They are 1.75 " wide and over 1/4" thick. They will hold up a 1911 gov model and 2 extra mags easy. And my jeans, which is a bonus since I have no ass to speak of.
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (WF/xn)
But not so helpful for the ladies. sra blaster has 3 ways she carries. A Dene Adam's pair of compression shorts when in a skirt, and two different IWBs fdepending on higher or lower waistband pants.
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 07:14 PM (mbFEM)
I didn't see flasks! Maud'dib donated flasks?
Wtf?
There would have been a fight.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:14 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:00 PM (U2p+3)
Until you become acquainted with the Kimber Eclipse (1911 frame) in the mighty centimeter caliber.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:14 PM (+LCoQ)
Jim SND and Weasel presented world class tutorial sessions followed by structured (as much as you can structure Morons) live fire sessions! Many targets wept, and much steel swung in the breeze!!
Hard as I try, I cannot imagine more gracious, competent, and just fundamentally decent to their very core people, than Ben Had, Rancher Bob, Jennifer, Weasel, and Jim SND (and there was a similar supporting background cast of at least a hundred people)!
Next Year In Corsicana!
Plan ahead!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:14 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:15 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (excGT)
Sleazy fuck probably hired an armorer that he thought he could bend over a desk. No way she was qualified for that job.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 07:15 PM (f2FY8)
That would be ribbeting
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:12 PM (sIDEA)
You know how I've said there is only one unforgivable sin?
I just added one more to the list.
Posted by: The LAWD Yo GAWD at October 24, 2021 07:16 PM (nbpCi)
Posted by: CN
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Late: I think this is a great idea. I think getting them some range time at a place that has a selection of hand guns so they can get a feel for 'what fits/feels good' would help too. (I know, chaching; but, they will only live once!)
Then mail order to their local FFL for transfer paperwork. I have used grabagun.com and have been pleased.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2021 07:16 PM (9wbEA)
Posted by: Honda
So you're likely left handed, but right eyed.
When the first Doom computer game came out, that was one of the criticisms. The player character shot weapons like you do.
But it's natural for a cross-dominant lefty.
Posted by: mikeski at October 24, 2021 07:16 PM (P1f+c)
Most heteros wouldn't want to have their way with her, I don't think...
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:16 PM (L2ZTs)
Some places also have knife permits or weapons permits including knives.
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 06:32 PM (xunV5)
In Iowa, it's a "Permit to Carry Weapons", which covers guns, knives, swords, axes, pikes, halberds and small nuclear weapons.
(I might be wrong about that last one.)
Posted by: a.moron at October 24, 2021 07:17 PM (F6Xpw)
Posted by: klaftern at October 24, 2021 07:17 PM (taPSh)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 07:17 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:17 PM (U2p+3)
Well, his father dwells there, so rest assured, when Fauci leaves this life, he'll return there.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:18 PM (+LCoQ)
Posted by: CN at October 24, 2021 07:18 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:19 PM (excGT)
NYC: the city that never sleeps, but LV: the city that's on an never-ending coke binge.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:19 PM (L2ZTs)
Ms B is a freaking killer shot. You should be proud. I know you are.
Party on!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:17 PM (U2p+3)
I think I'm more afraid. Lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (f2FY8)
Most heteros wouldn't want to have their way with her, I don't think...
Posted by: qdpsteve
Yup. Related topic. There obviously should not be live rounds anywhere near such a movie set. But boy and girls will be boys-I understand they liked to go shooting in the desert etc.
But as someone said, up thread, there is no need for her to be *overwhelmed*, simply check each gun for blanks versus live rounds before each scene. All your other responsibilities are secondary to such safety.
Posted by: MikeM at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (X+eRS)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (eeRB6)
These days, [b[any government agency acting outside of specific laws enacted by an "elected" Congress capable of making up arbitrary "rules" which have the full force of law is an enemy of the people, even though those Constitutionally illegal "laws" are really for the good of the "people"!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (hOUT3)
I'm already doing that. Next year, I'll make sure my work calendar is clear.
Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (NacE+)
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Is that a Davy Crockett in your pocket or are you just happy to see me??
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 07:21 PM (UHVv4)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:21 PM (L0p0o)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 24, 2021 07:21 PM (KAi1n)
#ArrestFauci
F Little Tony Mengele.
Posted by: LostInSpace at October 24, 2021 07:21 PM (Tatvp)
Posted by: Mr Gaga at October 24, 2021 06:47 PM (4ZE6o)
You *really* need to look around online. Midway USA, Gun Mag Warehouse, even Ammo Man have had prices below that for a couple of months. If you're picky about brand and loading, then maybe.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:22 PM (excGT)
I've read that the "armorer" hired was the daughter of none other than Thell Reed, one of the most famous Hollywood gun-handlers of all time. Ages are confusing though, Thell would be easily a decade older than me, and a 24 y/o sounds maybe more "granddaughter"?
Point being, you'd expect the spawn of such as Thell Reed to be much like Jerry Miculeck's daughter, hell on wheels with a gun in her own right. But, granddaughter? SHE might really be a single generation out of the tutelege of the Patriarch, and "once removed" would be enough to break the chain of competency, resulting in what we've now seen in the news.
For all but Baldwin, it seems to be a tragedy. For Baldwin? Far closer to Business as Usual, and more atrocity than tragedy, fwiw.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 24, 2021 07:22 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (f2FY
I decided, based on substantial target evidence, that there were an awful lot of 'ettes that I will endeavor to NEVER get mad at me!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:23 PM (hOUT3)
Ben Had , the heart of this whole thing and wine connoiseur.
Jennifer, I never laughed so hard in my life as I did last night on the dance floor.
Rancher Bob who took the time to help me figure out which gun I shoudn't buy.
Weasel, who made sure I got a chance to try out a new rifle.
Jim NSD who was an excellent instructor and loaned me that rifle.
Friends, friends, friends, my adopted family.
I love you all and can't wait to do it all over again.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 07:24 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:24 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:24 PM (sIDEA)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 07:25 PM (WF/xn)
Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 07:20 PM (NacE+)
My friend, you are wise beyond your years! You will NOT regret this!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:25 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: screaming in digital (Jesse's Girl) at October 24, 2021 06:51 PM (SK546)
Hooooeeee, I've got stories from driving through there for a number of years (Colorado Springs to DFW). One involving snow, a blanket, and making a truck jackknife.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:26 PM (excGT)
#ArrestFauci
F Little Tony Mengele.
Posted by: LostInSpace at October 24, 2021 07:21 PM (Tatvp)
Stake his silly ass in the desert and let some A-10's do some strafing runs.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 07:26 PM (f2FY8)
So I now own a Ruger Max 9. Yea!
Desert Range next weekend.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2021 07:27 PM (9wbEA)
Hmmmm
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM (mbFEM)
There was an idea floated for next year involving Trebuchet-launched pumpkin skeet. The question is, what kind of shot would be best?
Posted by: Retief at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM (hgd+7)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:24 PM (sIDEA)
Anna, even though you were not there this year, I sincerely hope to see you there at some future time, but in any event, you are on the permanent list of 'ettes that I fervently hope NEVER get mad at me!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Honda
So you're likely left handed, but right eyed.
When the first Doom computer game came out, that was one of the criticisms. The player character shot weapons like you do.
But it's natural for a cross-dominant lefty.
Posted by: mikeski
Same here. Pistol left, rifle right. Right eye dominate.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 07:29 PM (KVa9+)
But was somewhat distracted by the noise resulting from either a bad seal on my earmuffs or a bad fit on my ear plugs. Very odd since I've been using the same setup for quite some time now.
Posted by: Thicc Boi at October 24, 2021 07:30 PM (zThcc)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:30 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:30 PM (sIDEA)
Then we went to the rifle range and he set up spotting scopes and had us look. He explained WHAT we were seeing as far as haze and mirage and air movement at the target as opposed to where we were standing. Then he stood back and let us figure it out.
Pretty awesome coaching. I learned a LOT.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:31 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 07:31 PM (mbFEM)
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:32 PM (excGT)
Posted by: Retief at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM
Since 88 flak is so hard to find, maybe 20 mikemike? Like a SeaWiz?
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:32 PM (0OP+5)
#ArrestFauci
F Little Tony Mengele.
Posted by: LostInSpace at October 24, 2021 07:21 PM (Tatvp)
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of "men" like Fauci?
Hint: his name starts with "S"!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:32 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (L0p0o)
Because identifying as a Virginas-ian would be... problematic.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:33 PM (excGT)
Posted by: B
sandflies
how are you home so fast?
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 24, 2021 07:33 PM (K3ZCc)
I have an FBI(ret) friend with a display case in his living-room, inside is an N-Frame S&W...
it was a Bad guys gun, a bad guy that was shooting at my friend.
Three of the chambers have been fired, in one of those fired chambers is lodged a .45 caliber round....pointed the "wrong way". It is a round HE fired at the bad guy, hit square into a chamber, knocked the gun from the badguys hand, also rendered it "Non-functional"...and rendered the bad guy into custody.
It is a pretty impressive conversation piece. Somewhere I have a phone pic I took of it. Cylinder is bulged, and slightly askew.
Posted by: tj Strong at October 24, 2021 07:33 PM (uAI4S)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:30 PM (sIDEA)
Anna, this comment is going in the Hrothgar PermaRecords notes file!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:34 PM (hOUT3)
McGyver, over
Posted by: McGyver at October 24, 2021 07:34 PM (Iw46i)
Posted by: weirdflunky at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (cknjq)
THIS!
Posted by: GWB
High on my list after the concealed carry shorts mentioned above!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2021 07:34 PM (9wbEA)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2021 07:34 PM (sIDEA)
Posted by: Retief at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM
Since 88 flak is so hard to find, maybe 20 mikemike? Like a SeaWiz?
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:32 PM (0OP+5)
I've seen the necessary stuff available on-line to do grenade launching from an M1 Rifle. Dud (trainer) grenades, of course.
Posted by: Gref at October 24, 2021 07:36 PM (AMIL/)
In no particular order :
Ben Had, CowHorseQueen, Rancher Bob (who was kind enough to let me wander the property at 7 am this am pretending to look for ham to shoot), Weasel!, and every moron/ette who attended.
I can't begin to express it in one or two comments, so it will spill over during the weeks ahead.
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 07:36 PM (L5e/8)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 07:05 PM (oFUlW)
This. It is the *SHOOTER'S* responsibility, ultimately, to ensure the firearm they are using is appropriately loaded or not.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:37 PM (excGT)
Posted by: BigBoreCore at October 24, 2021 07:38 PM (Nyumu)
Pumpkins and turkeys are kinda size-compatible. I'd go with #6 shot.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 24, 2021 07:38 PM (Xrfse)
I've been saying he was wearing Ray-Bans and shimmering purple zentai...
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:06 PM (L2ZTs)
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The shorts and black socks with tennies - busted
Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 07:40 PM (oFUlW)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 07:40 PM (oFUlW)
Doesn't everyone wear shined Florsheim shoes?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:42 PM (hOUT3)
"Don't muss my hair!!"
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:42 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM (0OP+5)
One of the other issues with how personal carry is. If your body shape isn't "normal" you have to begin experimenting. The new little doodad they're putting on IWB holsters? That pushes the belt out so the grip cants in to the body (so it prints less)? Yeah, that pushes my belt out so it's no longer really holding my pants up - and that does NOT help concealment.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:42 PM (excGT)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:42 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (+LCoQ)
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Isn't murder when one intentionally kills another?
Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 07:43 PM (oFUlW)
CZ P-07
OR
XD9
OR
Glock 21
Depends on what pants I'm wearing.
Most jackets have a pistol in the pocket. Taurus 709 or Kel Tec PF-9.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 24, 2021 07:43 PM (eeRB6)
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 07:43 PM (huVNL)
Posted by: Jim
I saw More Atrocity Than Tragedy open for Godspeed You! Black Emperor, at the Minneapolis State Theater in 2015.
(Ben Rothlisberger will now explain post-rock band names.)
Posted by: mikeski at October 24, 2021 07:43 PM (P1f+c)
glad everyone had a rocking time in Texas.
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 07:44 PM (huVNL)
Posted by: a.moron at October 24, 2021 07:17 PM (F6Xpw)
Dang, I need an Iowa permit.
I've been wanting to carry a cane-sword. (Yes, I know how to use one.)
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:45 PM (excGT)
Can't wait for the TV news too. "Stormwatch 2021!!"...
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:45 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Braenyard
That was either the glowie, or my dad.
Posted by: mikeski at October 24, 2021 07:45 PM (P1f+c)
I lean more toward the P250 because in spite of the trigger pull being a week long, I hit everything I aim at out to 15 yds which is a distance I'm comfortable with engaging a target with confidence. Also, the stopping power of a JHP 230gr .45 is undeniable.
Posted by: Hank_Scorpio at October 24, 2021 07:45 PM (XS3+G)
You'd think so, wouldn't you? Turns out it's... "complicated."
Posted by: D. Chauvin at October 24, 2021 07:45 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 07:46 PM (L5e/8)
Baldwin can afford more justice than anyone else on the set - he'll walk.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 24, 2021 07:09 PM (+LCoQ)
Legal Insurrection blog has a very good post by Andrew Branca on whether or not Baldwin will face any criminal liability for the shooting.
https://tinyurl.com/4a8asb39
very short summation - how will the shooting be classified:
accidental? - no liability
negligent? - civil liability (wrongful death suit)
recklessness? - Criminal liability
we don't know enough facts yet to be able to judge which will apply.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 07:46 PM (evAgx)
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 07:47 PM (L5e/8)
See, that proves that it's possible to shoot the gun out of someone's hand! Any cop who shoots someone anywhere else should be charged with murder!!!
Posted by: typical ignorant liberal at October 24, 2021 07:47 PM (49nYE)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:19 PM (L2ZTs)
We could all go to Front Sight training as a group! THEN do a fun shoot - if Rancher Bob owns some property out there.....
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:48 PM (excGT)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:48 PM (L0p0o)
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at October 24, 2021 07:48 PM (0OmEj)
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM (0OP+5)
One of the other issues with how personal carry is. If your body shape isn't "normal" you have to begin experimenting. The new little doodad they're putting on IWB holsters? That pushes the belt out so the grip cants in to the body (so it prints less)? Yeah, that pushes my belt out so it's no longer really holding my pants up - and that does NOT help concealment.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:42 PM
I have 1 IWB rig that was made to fit a G26, and it will fit other makes as well. My problem with IWB carry is I'm bony as Slim the skeleton. I prefer the firearm to be outside for easy access and comfort. Maybe we should start a new line of 782 gear for civilian use?
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:49 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Infidel at October 24, 2021 07:50 PM (QC3yT)
Posted by: JTB at October 24, 2021 07:50 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:50 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 07:51 PM (L0p0o)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:51 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 24, 2021 07:52 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:51 PM (L2ZTs)
if you know anyone who owns a ranch in monument valley...
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 07:52 PM (evAgx)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (UHVv4)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (L2ZTs)
Mrs R with sick kitties has no happies.
Next time back to TX I think we should do something less strenuous than a MoMe. Like wrestling TRex.
You may be awesome.
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (L5e/8)
Posted by: Ed L at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (NacE+)
Posted by: qdpsteve
Then organize one!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2021 06:48 PM (f2FY
Those were some pretty good groups for not having shot for a while.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (ACi07)
Posted by: Infidel at October 24, 2021 07:54 PM (QC3yT)
Posted by: qdpsteve
Then organize one!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (U2p+3)
Talk to WDS for some helpful hints.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2021 07:54 PM (ACi07)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 24, 2021 07:52 PM (kTF2Z)
That responsibility thing, it be just more like a loose guideline, matey!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:54 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 07:25 PM (WF/xn)
Breaking the causal chain. It's the point of all aviation safety training. You can't just do one thing wrong and hurt people/break stuff. It takes a bunch of screw-ups - just don't do ONE of them and the whole tragedy stops.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:54 PM (excGT)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:55 PM (L2ZTs)
The world is a lesser place without him in it.
https://youtu.be/V6qVwTOVmfI
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 07:55 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:55 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 07:55 PM (UHVv4)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (ACi07)
I warned berserker that Mrs B was one of the 'ettes that should be accorded much respect!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:55 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: ycrt in TX at October 24, 2021 07:55 PM (49nYE)
Posted by: Retief at October 24, 2021 07:28 PM (hgd+7)
Slugs?
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (excGT)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (rdbLX)
Quite, if you have the magic "-d" you are always blameless.
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (Lzpvj)
Also recently bought myself two laser inserts (9mm and .45ACP) and got the MantisX Laser Academy app. My 10 year old and I have had great fun dry firing in my billiard room against IDPA targets.
Posted by: SARDiver at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (s0DTB)
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM
That makes you the perfect 'ron, old chap!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (Lzpvj)
Amazing how relatively quickly we have reverted to a "caste" system, right?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 07:58 PM (hOUT3)
Looks like there's decent lodging nearby too.
https://stepoutside.org/range/
gunfighter-canyon-a241c000002v4wvqak.html
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:59 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: SARDiver at October 24, 2021 07:59 PM (s0DTB)
1. Every weapon is loaded until you personally clear it.
2. Never point a weapon at anything you don't intend to shoot.
My father taught me that when I was five.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 24, 2021 07:59 PM (kTF2Z)
I think blaming the Hispanic armorer is a work of genius and a fine cautionary tale for minorities that when the chips are down you will be destroyed to save a honky male.
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 07:59 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 07:53 PM (L2ZTs)
Most of it is inside the Navajo Reservation. Beautiful because it is so bleak. There are a few resorts where you can stay, Gouldings and The View being the most prominent.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 07:59 PM (evAgx)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 08:00 PM (csEWM)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 08:01 PM (L0p0o)
"Guns are indeed fired all the time in movies. At actors. In scenes. When are guns fired at cinematographers? Oh, right, never."
Posted by: ycrt in TX at October 24, 2021 08:01 PM (49nYE)
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:13 PM
That makes you the perfect 'ron, old chap!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (a3Q+t)
Or Brie Larson in disguise...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 08:01 PM (csEWM)
Posted by: Tom Servo
The View fund 300 plus a night.
It is gorgeous. But. Um. Count me out.
Hi Tom! Nice to meet you!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 08:02 PM (U2p+3)
Lots of good ones out there but it's the best.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 06:07 PM (axyOa)
I have always wondered about an open top bolt in combat conditions. At least with the M14 you can take the magazine out and shake out the mud, unlike the M1.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2021 08:02 PM (rdbLX)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:02 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:03 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 08:04 PM (L5e/8)
I'm seeing a La Quinta and a Comfort Inn there.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:04 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:49 PM (0OP+5)
I'm all in for entrepreneurship! But what is "782 gear"?
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:05 PM (excGT)
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 07:37 PM (excGT)
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He's not a shooter he's an actor.
There is a set protocol for declaring Cold Gun, it was not followed.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 08:07 PM (oFUlW)
LBE, battle rattle....
modern troops use the latest version of the FLIC the old LBE was an improvement over gen 1 web gear.
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:07 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2021 08:02 PM (U2p+3)
it was fun to finally meet you! I presume you're back safe and sound now. Glad you had a good trip!
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 08:08 PM (evAgx)
Posted by: tj Strong
One in a million shot.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 08:08 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2021 07:56 PM (rdbLX)
Yep! I have one of the nukes/F15 ones. Looking to turn that one into a .50 Beowulf if I can save my pennies for the upper.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:08 PM (excGT)
Looks like there's decent lodging nearby too.
You do understand that you're dangerously close to volunteering to organize something, right?
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:09 PM (nfrXX)
An actor can be the shooter, also *he* was the asshole who hired the assholes who were assholes.
If only Arec Borwin had told Arec Borwin not to cut corners on hiring gun gaffer toothy mcbigtits to run a set that had already had 3-5 negligent discharges.....
See Arec Borwin is civilly responsible period, and in a sane world criminally as well.
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:09 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:10 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: ycrt in TX at October 24, 2021 08:01 PM (49nYE)
Well, except for all the times you're looking down the barrel when it's fired in the movie.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:10 PM (excGT)
See Arec Borwin is civilly responsible period, and in a sane world criminally as well.
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:09 PM (Lzpvj
I'm so ronry, sand a ronry
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2021 08:10 PM (WF/xn)
Posted by: Infidel at October 24, 2021 08:10 PM (QC3yT)
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
That's why I've always said, True bottom load M1 Garand with BAR magazines.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 08:11 PM (OCTRt)
Damn it was fun. Accurate, easy maintenance, and lets face it, it just looks like a warrior's weapon. My only problem was on my first field exercise and the firing pin broke. I was told that was very unusual. But i carried an extra for the rest of the time we used them and it was replaced by the M-16.
Sigh...
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 08:11 PM (axyOa)
Does this appeal to anyone besides me? In the meantime, hmmm. Gonna have to give some serious thought to organizing something for 2022.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:12 PM (L2ZTs)
Useress as Kim said...
seriously it is amazing but not shocking to me the lengths that a lot of people go to to allow this clown to try to skate on culpability.
The presence of a procedure matrix does not absolve an individual of blame.
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:12 PM (Lzpvj)
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Wouldn't believe it unless I saw it with my own eyes, doc.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 08:13 PM (UHVv4)
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:07 PM (Lzpvj)
Aha. Well, I see LOTS of battle rattle stuff available. None of it is what I would call "non-confrontational".
But, designing something that works for "dad bods" and such would certainly have a good market niche.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:13 PM (excGT)
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I personally saw one of the winners filling theirs up from the open bar....
Posted by: lin-duh at October 24, 2021 08:14 PM (UUBmN)
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Wouldn't believe it unless I saw it with my own eyes, doc.
Posted by: andycanuck
I've seen the artwork of rifle bullets hitting each other in mid flight from WWI.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 08:15 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 24, 2021 08:16 PM (5WP7x)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 24, 2021 08:16 PM (UHVv4)
As someone who never touched a gun until last year's TxMoMe who now understands why all these "gun nuts" have some many "toys" and now is trying to decide where to start for my first purchase, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your patient introduction to the whole sport.
I miss you all!
Posted by: Iris at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (6lKe4)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (L0p0o)
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:09 PM (Lzpvj)
I agree with you on civil liability, because he was the producer and ultimately responsible for everyone on that set. For criminal liability, there will probably need to be some testimony that he was screwing around with the gun recklessly, not just trying to film a scene.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (evAgx)
Posted by: whig at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (xunV5)
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:49 PM (0OP+5)
I'm all in for entrepreneurship! But what is "782 gear"?
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:05 PM
As sven (who knows more than me for sure) said, it's load bearing gear. I'd strip it to just belt and suspenders though since I will only carry sidearm and 3 or 4 mags, and not canteen, flashlight, aid kit, blah blah. Heck I just may start wearing suspenders since I am well into geezer range now.
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Ghost of John Garand at October 24, 2021 08:18 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2021 08:18 PM (axyOa)
I'll start the bidding with a firm "maybe." A MoMe would make a great bookend to a longer vacation in the general area.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:18 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 08:15 PM (OCTRt)
the odds were evened up because there were a million bullets from each side in the air when they hit.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 08:18 PM (evAgx)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:19 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 07:49 PM (0OP+5)
I'm all in for entrepreneurship! But what is "782 gear"?
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:05 PM
As sven (who knows more than me for sure) said, it's load bearing gear. I'd strip it to just belt and suspenders though since I will only carry sidearm and 3 or 4 mags, and not canteen, flashlight, aid kit, blah blah. Heck I just may start wearing suspenders since I am well into geezer range now.
Posted by: Eromero
762 Gear. (7.62x51)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2021 08:19 PM (OCTRt)
Also when would you prefer it go down? I like June, personally.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:20 PM (L2ZTs)
It will be swept under the rug in a way that it would not be for say Gary Sinise.
He is a member of the club, it makes the center-right interference ran for him unseemly because in the end it is unneeded.
Posted by: sven at October 24, 2021 08:20 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at October 24, 2021 08:20 PM (Ak/GS)
I don't care if she's the most unqualified ninny on the planet, the responsibility for the shooting is 99%+ on Alec Baldwin, i.e. the guy who pointed the weapon and puled the trigger.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2021 08:20 PM (roH4R)
My hunch is it'll be up to the Hollywood unions as to whether or not Alec skates on the gun negligence.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:21 PM (L2ZTs)
Again, thank you Weasel, CBD, Jim and all other instructors and RSOs at the MoMe. Wifey shot a AR platform for the first time and was absolutely thrilled. CHQ's son was an immense help to her and, as it was her first time, was very gentle.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2021 08:21 PM (PPjCi)
Regardless, AB is the epitome of an arrogant Hollywood liberal, who mocked Dick Cheney's hunting accident, so I can only say... well, I'm trying to be a better Christian, so I won't say anything else.
Posted by: ycrt in TX at October 24, 2021 08:21 PM (49nYE)
McGyver, over
Posted by: McGyver at October 24, 2021 08:22 PM (Iw46i)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 08:22 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:23 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2021 08:23 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:23 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2021 08:24 PM (PPjCi)
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:25 PM (nfrXX)
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at October 24, 2021 08:25 PM (Iw46i)
It's just that if people want to shoot outdoors, it looks like the small city of Page in Arizona, which is 2 hours away from MV, will have to suffice. I looked and can't find anything closer.
If anyone knows of anything closer, that would be great.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:25 PM (L2ZTs)
Also when would you prefer it go down? I like June, personally.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:20 PM (L2ZTs)
I can't recall if I mentioned earlier, but WDS is looking at having the CO Morondezvous in April (when it has been scheduled in more normal years). TX is always mid to late October. Now tcn is plotting for AK in July, and you have PNW, NoVA and MI in the mix.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2021 08:25 PM (ACi07)
I like the idea of Colorado in April. Maybe I'll just shut up and try to make that. I just hate having to wait another whole year to do something in TX or anywhere else.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:26 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2021 08:27 PM (ACi07)
I put a few rounds through the S&W 1917 Jesse gave me. I haven't shot revolvers much, so it feels awkward to me. But I can make holes in the paper, usually pretty close to where I expect them to be.
Satrose had very cool guns and gave expert coaching to some other ettes.
I was/am overwhelmed meeting (and hugging!) so many interesting and gracious people who mean more to me than I can express. Many many thanks to Ben Had, RancherBob, CowHorseQueen, Weasel, and everybody. The Horde is family.
Posted by: screaming in digital (Jesse's Girl) at October 24, 2021 08:27 PM (SK546)
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at October 24, 2021 08:27 PM (Iw46i)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 24, 2021 08:28 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:28 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:28 PM (L2ZTs)
Maybe there is federal forest land where shooting is permitted? Dunno, just spitballin' here.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:29 PM (nfrXX)
Add it to a complete AR15 lower at $125.
OD green furniture.
That's a complete rifle for just a little over 400 bones. Add a rear sight, sling and mag you can get it all together for about $450.
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 08:29 PM (mbFEM)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:30 PM (L2ZTs)
If that's true, yikes
Posted by: barbarausa at October 24, 2021 08:30 PM (W7IZQ)
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2021 08:30 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:31 PM (nfrXX)
Yay.
Gotta sign off for now, power is flickering and may have to hunker down in the basement.
Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 24, 2021 08:31 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:32 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: screaming in digital (Jesse's Girl) at October 24, 2021 08:32 PM (SK546)
Posted by: RI Red
RI Red - It was a gas meeting you - thank for the kind, encouraging words to my R. She told me she thought you were quite the gentleman.
She may have been speaking about a different RI Red. Nah, jk - thank you for reaching out to her. She really appreciated it. Me too!
Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2021 08:33 PM (PPjCi)
I don't know which of us is more disappointed. I'm gonna go with me.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:34 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 08:34 PM (oFUlW)
I don't want to get on the cart! I'm not dead!
Posted by: The Gun Thread at October 24, 2021 08:36 PM (nfrXX)
Stay safe SMH!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 08:36 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:36 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Infidel at October 24, 2021 08:37 PM (QC3yT)
Posted by: Aviator at October 24, 2021 08:38 PM (HQ9Sl)
If that's true, yikes
Posted by: barbarausa at October 24, 2021 08:30 PM (W7IZQ)
IF that story is true, that meets the legal definition of "Reckless", and that's criminal liability.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 08:38 PM (evAgx)
Posted by: blaster
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blaster, catch me at the right moment and I might pay you to take mine. I can't shoot it worth a damn, but everyone else who's tried it shoots dead center bullseye every time. So it's me not the gun.
Posted by: screaming in digital (Jesse's Girl) at October 24, 2021 08:39 PM (SK546)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2021 08:34 PM (oFUlW)
The Dandy Don Meredith classic about parties being over...
https://tinyurl.com/3e4ua3fw
Posted by: Gref at October 24, 2021 08:39 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2021 08:41 PM (PPjCi)
Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 24, 2021 08:31
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Be safe,SMH. Wife said tornado touched down in Farmington. Hope Tami's safe.
Posted by: Olddog in mo at October 24, 2021 08:41 PM (ju2Fy)
Posted by: blaster at October 24, 2021 08:41 PM (mbFEM)
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:41 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2021 08:38 PM (evAgx)
FIXT
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 08:42 PM (hOUT3)
You just missed the full moon, so I am not sure this will really work as planned!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 08:43 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: ycrt in TX at October 24, 2021 08:21 PM (49nYE)
I never want to be the bigger person ever again. We can both go to Hell
Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2021 08:46 PM (KbLYZ)
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 08:49 PM (huVNL)
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:17 PM (0OP+5)
I have well and truly pondered this. I was advised to do it for wearing suits nowadays. (This was not gun-related, merely getting a suit for a higher level job - that didn't last - and the tailor recommending it.) It would obviate the need for the belt to do the holding up part.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:49 PM (excGT)
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 24, 2021 07:02 PM (QHqf9)
Loved it, the lighting was a little too dark at times, but so cinematic I think Weasel would say it needs more guns, but I prefer to keep the knives.
That soundtrack though.....
Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 08:50 PM (JxiZo)
You just missed the full moon, so I am not sure this will really work as planned!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 08:43 PM
Just defiled some designer crackers with liverwurst and gorgonzola washed down with saki. Iconoclast, that's what I is. Will snailmail you somethign soon I hopes. Now to sleep, perchance to dream.
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:50 PM (0OP+5)
Lake Powell is the Grand Canyon, halfway filled with water. It's incredible.
Posted by: SARDiver at October 24, 2021 08:51 PM (s0DTB)
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 08:52 PM (huVNL)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 24, 2021 08:53 PM (vuisn)
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 24, 2021 08:54 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 08:54 PM (huVNL)
Had a GREAT time at the MoMe. Already looking forward to next years. LOL
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 24, 2021 08:54 PM (irTI1)
I'm on their mailing list. Their stuff is great, IMO. And the "blemished" stuff is a great price and never really anything awful.
I just don't have the space for another 5.56 atm. I'm looking for that .50 Beowulf, though....
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:55 PM (excGT)
Posted by: Eromero at October 24, 2021 08:50 PM (0OP+5)
I get the liverwurst, it's delicious, but sake with it?!
Posted by: Draki at October 24, 2021 08:55 PM (JxiZo)
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:56 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 24, 2021 08:53 PM (vuisn)
Liverwurst with garganzola? add a side of peanut butter and coffee?
Maybe a couple cloves of garlic?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 08:56 PM (csEWM)
Maybe a couple cloves of garlic?
Also known as the 'Alec Baldwin platter'.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 24, 2021 08:57 PM (csEWM)
Weasels class taught me although I have shot for 50 plus years, I do not know squat about accurate long distance shooting.
Saturday I took advantage of the open pistol shooting. Shot my model 60, and decided I just don't like it. On the sale/trade pile..
Shot my 422 a bit, SiDs S&W model 1917,and my 460 magnum. Steck was the only person other than me to shoot the 460. I am forever impressed.
All in all a GREAT WEEKEND!!!!
My deepest thanks to every single participant....
Posted by: Jesse in DC at October 24, 2021 08:57 PM (1IxQe)
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:59 PM (excGT)
Posted by: Oddbob at October 24, 2021 08:59 PM (nfrXX)
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 08:55 PM (excGT)
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i do not understand these words in this order...
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 09:00 PM (huVNL)
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 08:04 PM (L5e/
Had to have been me, Red, since I was spraying Jak Sucio's ammo all around the 200yd target yet not actually hitting it much.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy Agr8U at October 24, 2021 09:08 PM (yCZVl)
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 24, 2021 08:23 PM (nxdel)
I have one of the keychains safely squirreled away in my suitcase, ma'am.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy Agr8U at October 24, 2021 09:12 PM (yCZVl)
I can't believe they have just ONE ranch hand to take care of 1200 acres.
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 09:15 PM (CJtAX)
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 09:15 PM (CJtAX)
In Texas, they understand the concept of work...
And fortunately for us Morons, they also understand the concept of play!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at October 24, 2021 09:16 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 09:20 PM (CJtAX)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 24, 2021 09:25 PM (irTI1)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 24, 2021 09:25 PM (irTI1)
Yes.
Wet.
No ham.
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 09:31 PM (CJtAX)
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 09:36 PM (CJtAX)
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 24, 2021 09:00 PM (huVNL)
LOL. I have other priorities before doubling up on anything. I'd rather have 1 of these and 1 of those and 1 of that one over there and one of these too, than have 14 of those.
Posted by: GWB at October 24, 2021 10:37 PM (excGT)
Posted by: RI Red at October 24, 2021 09:36 PM (CJtAX)
You'd be welcome!
Posted by: Probably Not Tacitus at October 24, 2021 10:38 PM (8my6+)
Posted by: Sirius the Canine Pundit at October 25, 2021 01:06 AM (LBO1U)
Posted by: Weasel - Honorary Texan at October 25, 2021 04:54 AM (OV/cm)
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