The Bulwark Vs. The Dispatch: The Ruckus In the Cuckhouse


Cobra Commander XV
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The Bulwark going to War with the Dispatch is the undercard paywall-per-view for Pre-School Fight Club.

It's fun to watch fat weaklings throw girlpunches at each other.

Jonah Goldberg, who is, I guess, sad and lonely with so little Internet Attention these days, drew first blood -- blood? Let's say he drew first pinkish liquid -- by insinuating that he and his fellow fat sadsack liberals at The Dispatch were not amoral grifters like those at The Bulwark, because they only write most of their articles about Trump and Trump supporters.

Whereas The Bulwark features, I guess, exclusively articles attacking Trump and Trump-supporters.

Before getting to that, I want to clarify something I should have more strongly clarified long ago:

Some readers and voters are NeverTrump and probably feel implicated when I attack NeverTrump.

I actually mean that as to the NeverTrump political leaders and " " " intellectual " " " leaders. I mean the politicians and writers, not the voters and readers.

My basic position is that you don't get to resign to join the enemy and stab your once-compatriots in the backs, and then, four years later, come back to your original nation and ask for your commission back.

Now, as for people who are just voters, people can vote for whoever they want, and no one owns your vote. And no one is entitled to your readership.

So I have no actual animus towards NeverTrump voters. If Trump was too toxic for you to vote for -- I get that. I wondered about that my own self.

But if you were a political leader or an " " " intellectual " " " leader (and note that NeverTrump "thought leaders" are dumb and lazy and chiefly just repeat what the leftwing media (and their corporate donors) tell them), you're out. You're out for good.

No army ever gives a commission back to an officer who deserted, and certainly not to an officer who joined the enemy.

It's incredible to me that "thought leaders" at places like National Review, who were too cowardly to actually endorse Hillary and F. Joe Biden but left readers with little doubt as to who they wanted to win, are now back, presenting themselves to conservatives, and announcing "We are willing and ready to Lead You Lesser Intellects again."

Really? How big of you. And until when? When will your next defection take place? When is the next time your obvious, transparent sympathies to the left (and your desire for approval by your liberal friends and future media employers) require you to break faith with conservatives and propagandize for a filthily corrupt leftwinger, who you will claim is "moderate" and "decent"?

Fuck you. Use your diminished influence to write for and represent Democrats. We got on without you for six years, and didn't notice we'd missed anything we weren't glad to be rid of.

You're proud of saying you can do business with Democrats. Well, do business with them, and never darken our doors again.

That point made, here's Goldberg, attempting to claim The Dispatch is not a Trump-obsessed outlet. (My Fat Dude, have you read David French lately?)

If you wake up every morning trying to argue about why Trump is bad and the people who like Trump are evil, you're just as obsessed with him as the people who wake up every morning wanting to prove that Trump is a glorious statesman and everything he does is great.

Both sides! Both sides! He said the thing he says! He said Both Sides!

Never Trump and pro-Trump publications, he concludes, are "two sides of the same Trump-obsessed coin."

Well, this caused quite the stir at The Bulwark, who were quick to point out -- rather accurately -- that in fact The Dispatch only exists to pander to NeverTrumpers (and, I should say, the leftwing donors who think that stoking NeverTrump sentiment will help Democrats).

Jonah Goldberg's Narcissism of Small Differences

In a world of trouble, why snipe at allies?

by MONA CHAREN OCTOBER 13, 2021 5:30 AM

Great start. And of course-- these people are allies. They are alike in almost all ways, except for one: The people at The Bulwark have been more honest and open about simply defecting to the Democrat Party, while those at The Dispatch defected to the Democrat Party as well -- but for tactical/fundraising/branding reasons, wish to pretend that they did not.

ack in 2016, when formerly distinguished conservatives were suddenly lining up to issue glassy-eyed endorsements of a half-mad reality-TV figure, Jonah Goldberg wrote a brilliant column comparing the experience to Invasion of the Body Snatchers. He captured the sense so many of us had that nearly an entire party and, eventually, nearly an entire intellectual movement, had been lobotomized. "People would go to sleep violently opposed to Trump and everything he represented,” he recapped for Vanity Fair, "but by morning they'd start telling me how under comrade Trump, we were going to have the greatest harvest we've ever seen." If Goldberg does nothing else in his career, I will always cherish him for his indomitability when others, with less to lose, crumpled.

So it's disappointing to see him falling for the narcissism of small differences. As Sigmund Freud wrote, "It is precisely the minor differences in people who are otherwise alike that form the basis of feelings of hostility between them."

True. The Bulwark has branded itself as Republicans Turned Democrats, while The Dispatch is branding itself as True Republicans Aligning With Democrats Until the Republican Party Becomes True Once More.

This is a very slight distinction, but that's how you win market position, by specifying the niche you wish to compete in.

By the way, she links this Vanity Fair article in which the frontmen for The Dispatch make it clear that the entire reason for the outlet is NeverTrumpism.

For example, it starts thus:

avid French may check off traditional Republican boxes--conservative, military veteran, evangelical Christian--yet admits he’s out of step with the party's Trumpified base and is wary about its future. "If Donald Trump doesn't win or doesn't run in 2024, but somebody who adopts the ethos of Donald Trump wins or runs as a Republican in 2024, I don't see that as an improvement," French told me. "I see that as sort of this cementing of the identity of the party behind this particular ethos."

French said he fears the "angry populist" movement of the Trump era--or "the new right,” as he has also put it--will become irrevocably melded with the Republican Party.

That's a future that French, and other writers at The Dispatch, hope to avoid. While the conservative-media industry largely fell in line behind Trump, some outlets and pundits considered insufficiently loyal charted a different course.

So when French and Goldberg and Hayes were advertising their new venture at a leftwing outlet -- and no doubt hoping to troll for some leftwing donations -- they were quite upfront and explicit that the blog (I almost said "magazine," lol) was NeverTrump now, NeverTrump forever.

But now for branding reasons, Goldberg now wants to pretend that The Dispatch is and always was above this Trump vs. NeverTrump business.

Unlike those other guys.

Which is precisely what Charen suggests:

Celebrating the two-year anniversary of the Dispatch, Goldberg, apparently feeling the need to do some product differentiation, tossed off a gratuitous swipe at The Bulwark. Both publications are redoubts of Trumpism-defying conservatives, and thus, you might think, allies? Compadres? Friends?

Fellow travelers, I would say.

Fellow grifters, I would say, perhaps more accurately.

Are The Dispatch and The Bulwark competing for a shrinking pile of leftwing donations, and trying to position themselves as the one NeverTrump blog to survive? Will these Pepsi vs. Coke brand wars intensify as leftwing donors realize that, as usual, Kristol and Goldberg and Sykes and Hayes have no reach or influence that is worth renting?

Let's hope!

Speaking of NeverTrump: the great Lee Smith sent along a review of Tom Nichols' new " " " book " " " -- really a quickie cash-in, turning his petty twitter arguments and demands for attention into a print file -- and I gotta tell you, it's something.

Oliver Traldi reviews Noted Twitter Addict and Self-Proclaimed All-Purpose Expert Tom Nichols' newest 10,000 word Twitter rant and I love it. The review, I mean.


The word "book" must only be written in quotations marks because, as befits Tom Nichols' level of intellectual seriousness and literary ambition, it seems to be yet another quickie "Here are some of the zesty Twitter comebacks I wished I'd thought of at the time I wasting hours of my life on a social media platform designed for teenagers."

I'd call it l'esprit de l'escalier (the wit of the staircase, the Jerkstore response you think of on your way out the door) but disgusting fatbody Tom Nichols would never take the escaliers.


A "Never Trump conservative" whose specialty is national security and nuclear arms, Nichols has taught at Georgetown, Dartmouth, Harvard, and the U.S. Naval War College.

Wow that's a lot of schools to teach at without ever being offered tenure.

Let's call Nichols, as we say of journeymen baseball players dealt from one club to another, the "Much-Traveled Tom Nichols."

Let me rebut this introduction: Tom Nichols is no conservative, obviously. He brands himself that because he's an intense left-Democrat partisan who knows that game of "the conservative who attacks conservative."

By his own admission, he left the GOP years and years ago and only rejoined it, briefly, in 2012 to vote against Newt Gingrich in the primaries.

That's his own story -- that he's a bitter liberal who really hated the conservative Newt Gingrich and so joined a political party just to vote against a conservative.

That's not a conservative move. That's a leftwing partisan move.

But based on that brief, insincere "joining" of the GOP -- which he would of course quit multiple times, starting in 2015 -- he brands himself a "Never Trump conservative."

People should not dignify this lie by repeating it.


Indeed, Our Own Worst Enemy is peppered with so many internal tensions and contradictions that it's hard to believe it's not an attempt to use paradox to convey some sort of secret, true meaning. For Nichols, it's not just that the problem with democracy is democracy. It's that there's a society-threatening crisis, which is that people think there's a society-threatening crisis when there isn't. There's a bunch of people ruining our political system, and their problem is that they think there’s a bunch of people ruining our political system. Populism is a "'compelling' narrative, and like all compelling narratives, it has some elements of reality in it" -- but at the same time, "populist leaders have to ramp up white-hot rhetoric . . . lest the public doubt for a moment whether they should believe what they're hearing or seeing with their own lying eyes."

So who are you gonna believe, huh? Voters who only care about their own self-interest are ruining America, but the same voters are also so driven by resentment that they can't recognize their own self-interest. Nicholas has a chapter on how corrosive narcissism and anger are, but his whole book seems spittle-flecked and he frequently breaks the flow of his exposition to narrate his own expert credentials and accomplishments. Nichols castigates people for "exchanging paranoid memes on Facebook" right after saying that "the rest of us are vigilantly scanning the horizon . . . for the shock troops of a mass movement," and right before claiming that “authoritarianism could arrive . . . on little cat feet, quietly establishing itself while the rest of us are busy watching television, staring at our phones, and speaking to our friends and family through emojis."

A series of tiresome tirades written for an audience assumed to be sympathetic and admiring of Tom Nichols, Our Own Worst Enemy consists of 200 pages of bluster, with little explanation of its core assertions and little argument for the connections it makes among them. Poor editing worsens this impression: Elementary errors in spelling and grammar errors give the book the feel of an online rant. An anecdote from the first chapter is retold in the fifth chapter, with the same analysis and even the same jargon. Of his lectures on the moral failings of stupid and slovenly nonexpert Americans, he writes that he is "more reticent to deliver such sermons these days" (he means "reluctant," but reticence would have been nice).

...

Is it fair to take any of this stuff seriously, or is it just mean? Nichols is a kind of virtuoso of the empty sentiment, the filler sentence. Usually this sort of sentence is a sign a writer is straining to meet a word count or a deadline, something that's palpable in many of the books I review. But Nichols writes entire books of filler

Oh well, one doesn't expect style or deep thinking from a Twitter Rant.

Posted by: Ace at 04:10 PM




Comments

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1 Great title

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at October 15, 2021 03:10 PM (z5Vrg)

2 I love this post title.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 15, 2021 03:11 PM (Ez6QX)

3 Pass the popcorn

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2021 03:11 PM (2JoB8)

4 Red Turban beat me to it!

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 15, 2021 03:11 PM (Ez6QX)

5 Oh I read the content

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at October 15, 2021 03:12 PM (YZG/i)

6 I'm hoping for slap fights and hair pulling. Of course most NeverTrumper makes are pretty much hairless...

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:13 PM (CYnTg)

7 First idiot to pop a shirt button loses.

Posted by: wth at October 15, 2021 03:13 PM (v0R5T)

8 I dispatch bowl movements semi-daily.

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:13 PM (XHhHI)

9
Reporting on limp-wristed slapfights among those with atrophied gonads is no way to build readership, ace!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:13 PM (97I0d)

10 Are NeverTrump commenters complaining about you writing about NeverTrump?

I guess some people get their prickly feelz addressed, and others get to suck it up.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:14 PM (Mzdiz)

11 Oops, I posted at the end of a dead thread. Am I banned?

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 15, 2021 03:14 PM (sVtYq)

12 LET"S GET READY TO CUCK--LE !!!

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:14 PM (mR6Gs)

13
Pre-School Fight Club


F. Joe. Biden's favorite show!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:15 PM (97I0d)

14 >>>10 Are NeverTrump commenters complaining about you writing about NeverTrump?

No but i know some recovered nevertrumpers who wince when I speak of NeverTrump.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:15 PM (0G13K)

15 Why does anyone care what these losers post? It's all a load of crap, and I can get that going to CNN.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at October 15, 2021 03:15 PM (qvjMx)

16 Is it too much to ask that they both lose?

Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at October 15, 2021 03:15 PM (OUMaO)

17 "the niche you wish to compete in."

Once feculitis sets in you can't really call it a niche anymore.

Posted by: DaveA at October 15, 2021 03:15 PM (FhXTo)

18
Oops, I posted at the end of a dead thread. Am I banned?
Posted by: Lady in Black


Dead poster walking here!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (97I0d)

19 IMHO, all NeverTrump folk should feel implicated, because they are.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (Mzdiz)

20 Ahoy! Sounds like a bit of splashing going on in the Bathtub Yacht Club.

Not quite like this morning's painting, but close.

Posted by: t-bird at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (DMQdU)

21 Are The Dispatch and The Bulwark competing for a shrinking pile of leftwing donations, and trying to position themselves as the one NeverTrump blog to survive? Will these Pepsi vs. Coke brand wars intensify as leftwing donors realize that, as usual, Kristol and Goldberg and Sykes and Hayes have no reach or influence that is worth renting?

Let's hope!

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Well, as long as Republican Congressional leadership reads them, I'd say they probably still have influence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (LvTSG)

22 "Some readers and voters are NeverTrump "

Here? Who?

Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (Tnijr)

23 Who are these idiots and where have all the real men gone?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (R/m4+)

24 The irrelevance, it burns!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:17 PM (fs1hN)

25 The Cuckle in the Fuckle!

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 15, 2021 03:17 PM (C0WGN)

26 Mona, give that fat tub of hotdogs a purple nurple and show him who's the boss.

Posted by: Mishdog at October 15, 2021 03:17 PM (/VWLE)

27 Sissy-boy cuck slap-fighting is exactly as pathetic and grotesque as I thought it would be.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:17 PM (DU+/6)

28 No but i know some recovered nevertrumpers who wince when I speak of NeverTrump.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:15 PM (0G13K)

Well, you know, they should wince. But they're big boys and girls. Prejudices have consequences. Here in America, voting for the lesser evil is something we have to do, if we want to vote.

As it is, I voted for Trump because SMOD. And he was pretty good in that role.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (Mzdiz)

29
Are they setting aside their monocles as they slap fight? 'Cause you know they set aside their monocles whenever they commence to get serious.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (97I0d)

30 sadsack liberals at The Dispatch were not amoral grifters like those at The Bulwark, because they only write most of their articles about Trump and Trump supporters.

Whereas The Bulwark features, I guess, exclusively articles attacking Trump and Trump-supporters.
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Drooling Banjos

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (XHhHI)

31 Thai lady-boys have more fighting prowess.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (C0WGN)

32
Both sides need to listen to me. That's why I always say that. Sheesh.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (cTqLg)

33 I want the cucks in the Democrat's clown car when it goes over the cliff.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (TPKPX)

34 Did Tom Nichols self-publish his book?

Is that why it seems like no editor proofed his book?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (LvTSG)

35 This is madness! I have at least 1 million ladybugs on my house. Not even exaggerating. It is like that 70s movie with the killer bees. Except I can't fit my house in an air conditioned stadium.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (0ryfU)

36 Thai lady-boys have more fighting prowess.
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Really? I'd like to know more...

Posted by: Jay Nordlinger at October 15, 2021 03:19 PM (FKHhS)

37 One night in Bangkok Jay, one night...

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 15, 2021 03:20 PM (C0WGN)

38 "No army ever gives a commission back to an officer who deserted, and certainly not to an officer who joined the enemy."

Give it 10 years. USA #1!

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at October 15, 2021 03:20 PM (CVpUt)

39 They'll scratch your eyes out

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:20 PM (CYnTg)

40
Here? Who?
Posted by: f'd


There's at least one former such, trapped in an academic backwater in MO.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:20 PM (97I0d)

41 This infighting squabble bubbles along, but the critical mass will ooze to the surface when St. Peggy Noonan draws her pen with one hand, clutches her pearls with her right and then hurls herself into the toxic bullshit.

Posted by: mrp at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (Pqytn)

42
Probably noted, but INSURRECTION!

https://tinyurl.com/4k3n2jwt

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (r5BVk)

43 This is madness! I have at least 1 million ladybugs on my house. Not even exaggerating. It is like that 70s movie with the killer bees. Except I can't fit my house in an air conditioned stadium.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (0ryfU)

Ladybugs are a blessing. Want to trade my stinkbugs?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (Mzdiz)

44
The Trump Card: the Trump Card is what these fake true conservatives can pull now to avoid ever having to support or defend a conservative policy for the rest of their grifting careers.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (JI/0U)

45 In the 2020 election Trump had a record of saying the word "pussy". Joe Biden had a record of grabbing women by the Pussy.

In the 2020 election Trump had a record of not being terrified of Putin. Joe Biden had a record of being paid off by Ukraine and China.

And on and on. There is no way a conservative could vote for Biden or suggest to someone else they do so.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (ESjRY)

46 I was expecting cruise ships.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (Dxj7R)

47 I think it's very interesting that both Goldberg and Charen are of the same grifter tribe... and are trying to police each other.

You can expect this rivalry to become more heated as the oligarchy decides they don't really need so many useless mouths to maintain the same failed platitudes.

Posted by: trev006 at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (Eqkqm)

48 Seriously it's sad to see what could otherwise be influential and productive people completely unaware of the reality of the current situation, rendering them completely out of touch and useless.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (fs1hN)

49 How can you be a thought leader when no one is following you?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:22 PM (vO+yX)

50 Cruise ships colliding in the night amidst a large pack of sharks?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 15, 2021 03:22 PM (C0WGN)

51 This is madness! I have at least 1 million ladybugs on my house. Not even exaggerating.

Maybe they think your VW Bug is their queen.

I looked it up- ladybugs *do* swarm in the fall, looking for a nice warm place for the winter. Congratulations on their choice of a home!

Posted by: t-bird at October 15, 2021 03:22 PM (DMQdU)

52 The Bulwark Vs. The Dispatch: The Ruckus In the Cuckhouse --Ace

I would suggest "The Bulwark Vs. The Dispatch: The Rumpus In the Cuckhouse"

Posted by: Chuck C at October 15, 2021 03:22 PM (EughT)

53 and thus, you might think, allies? Compadres? Friends?
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Fuck-friends; friends with benefits.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (UHVv4)

54 Please read my newest, coauthored with my lovely wife, "Why MAGA Men Make Better Bulls"

It's an endearing story of men coming together with common purpose in the midst of devastating social upheaval.

Posted by: David French at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (FKHhS)

55 What's going on is that both Cuckzines realize they bet on the wrong horse, and rather than have a pissing contest over who is more ANTI-Trump, and therefore more responsible for Biden, they are doing the next best thing--which is accuse each other of only existing because Trump.

By this time next year, they'll all be admitting they voted for Trump

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (mR6Gs)

56 A plague on both their houses. Hopefully, one that burns when they piss.

Posted by: Qoheleth at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (+NQw5)

57 He writes popular books for university presses, like the 2017 title The Death of Expertise: The Campaign Against Established Knowledge and Why It Matters, which examined ordinary people's unfortunate resistance to experts and expertise.
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Here's thing that the Alleged Expert Tom Nichols and all of his fellow technocrats and technocrat wannabes always miss: the reason. Nichols' turgid exposition about the value of the expert class and his womanly lamentations about how it just doesn't get the respect it deserves are two sides of the same coin.

Eventually, Tom, you have to deliver the goods. You and your crew never have. Wanna know why you and your arrogant technocrat buddies not only aren't respected but are ignored until the rubes get around to pillorying you? It's because you're stupid. You're incompetent. You're impotent. You're wrong. You're useless. You claim to be an expert yet your track record indicates that you have trouble tying your shoes. You claim to be moral and upright yet you slavishly slobber over any manifestation of deep state trouser snake that sneaks into your cuckshed. You are worthless, and your game is over.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (DU+/6)

58 I can't understand nevertrumpers. It defies common sense. Anyone with a brain could see Biden would be a disaster. To choose him over Trump is not possible in my reality.

Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (Tnijr)

59 Is this like one of those Marvel v. DC posts?

I don't follow either (dispatch or bullwark; marvel or DC) and so most of this is over my head. *

*Hey, I learned a new Japanese word last week - chinpunkanpun.
It means goobldygook. or "all greek to me". I think it is literally means "fine shit, chinese shit" (chin-pun-kan-pun) but I am not sure since there seems to be the spoken version and the written version and Japanese gets very complicated.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (PEQfB)

60 Who in their right mind would pay for either of these?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (kBuGL)

61 The competition for bulls is exacerbated by the crisis at the Department of Transportation.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (5l6FZ)

62 >>>22 "Some readers and voters are NeverTrump "

Here? Who?

...

I don't know of any who are still active but there are some who left that i miss.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (0G13K)

63 The Bulwark Vs. The Dispatch: The Ruckus In the Cuckhouse

******

Presented by Sinking Ship Productions

Posted by: Muldoon at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (5Woea)

64 Ladybugs are a blessing. Want to trade my stinkbugs?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (Mzdiz)


This is not a blessing. I have to wear a mask outside so I don't inhale the damn things. And we have mass numbers of stinkbugs too.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (0ryfU)

65 Pizza is just an open face sandwich! Fight me!

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (d9FiS)

66 A plague on both their houses. Hopefully, one that burns when they piss.
Posted by: Qoheleth at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (+NQw5)

Always with the burning piss jokes!

Posted by: Billy Jeff, The El Camino Rapist at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (R/m4+)

67 The Bloodshed in the Cuckshed

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (6FeV1)

68 50 Cruise ships colliding in the night amidst a large pack of sharks?
Posted by: Anna Puma at


Oooooo. I like that.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (Dxj7R)

69 62 I don't know of any who are still active but there are some who left that i miss.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (0G13K)

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Come back, Gabe!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (LvTSG)

70 So I have no actual animus towards NeverTrump voters. If Trump was too toxic for you to vote for -- I get that. I wondered about that my own self.

At the end of the day, one is either willing to do what it takes to win (and I'm not just talking elections) or not. The NeverTrumpers - all NeverTrumpers - are not. I've got no use for a movement that has never conserved anything other than its unjustifiably high opinion of itself.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (QU5/8)

71 The most amazing thing is, they get paid for writing such dreck.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Intermittent Faster, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (4I/2K)

72
How can you be a thought leader when no one is following you?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy


The delicious irony is that J'noah referred to himself as being a "thought leader" two or three years ago when, to the rest of the world, that was the one thing furthest away from what he truly was.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (97I0d)

73 Who in their right mind would pay for either of these?
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i pay for both!

Posted by: Pierre Omidyar at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (FKHhS)

74 When will your next defection take place?

*****

I think you left out an 'a' there, ace.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (5Woea)

75
Who is this Mona lady, anyway? I've never heard of her. And if I've never heard of her, neither has my mom, or Steve, or David. And if we haven't heard of her, then she's the gas-station sushi of hotdog sandwich journalism.

Now, have any of you been inspired as much me by the new Bond girl? She's the silver-screen Harriet Tubman of Jackie Robinsons. I know you fellow conservatives love movies and baseball and history, so this comment is germane to all of our beliefs, and it's as funny as season five of the Simpsons.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (cTqLg)

76 Pizza is just an open face sandwich! Fight me!
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (d9FiS)

Real Men fold their pizza sandwiches, you hack!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (6FeV1)

77 At the risk of violating the commenting rules and the sensibilities of strangers I must state, anyone paying attention for the last 2 years and still maintaining a NeverTrump voting position is not welcome in my home or if I have anything to do with it - which I don't - not welcome in my state.

SorryJustSayin

Posted by: Paul in Texas at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (kYyDC)

78 Ruckus-cuckhouse has the consonant (ck) version of assonance (which would be the u sound). It's not called alliteration - what is it? Anyone?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (Mzdiz)

79 "French said he fears the "angry populist" movement of the Trump era--or "the new right, as he has also put it--will become irrevocably melded with the Republican Party."


The "New Right"?. He needs to get his ass out of the northeast for a bit. I even know of places that serve fancily named Italian sandwiches out in flyover country.

Posted by: Javems at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (AmoqO)

80 Well, it's not like Thom claims to be an expert!

Posted by: The Nichols Fan Club at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (XHhHI)

81 "Established Knowledge" will make itself manifest as soon as our Secretary of Transportation finishes his two month paternity leave.

Posted by: mrp at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (Pqytn)

82 Tapeworms squabbling.

Posted by: aelfheld at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (Zy9Yy)

83 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (0ryfU)

You're gonna be soooo lucky!!!

Posted by: jakee308 at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (FZzni)

84 WE'LL SELL YOU THE WHOLE SEAT BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (KZzsI)

85
No army ever gives a commission back to an officer who deserted, and certainly not to an officer who joined the enemy.


*snort*

Posted by: Sir Henry Simmerson at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (n+4am)

86 Just can't reconcile criticizing NeverTrump blog authors without criticizing NeverTrump voters. Both are complicit.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (Fs5vw)

87 They're all a bunch of pantywaists

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (RLGan)

88 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (0ryfU)

What is there? Like 10 or something?

Posted by: jakee308 at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (FZzni)

89 Is this like one of those Marvel v. DC posts?

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I'm the Bulk!

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (d9FiS)

90
Oooooo. I like that.
Posted by: nurse ratched


Mount some lasers on those sharks' heads and I'm all in!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (97I0d)

91
What perplexes me the most is that none of these Media Republicans (and Republican Shits in Congress) can recognize their Expiration Date is approaching soon.

How long do they think this will continue?
What do they think will happen when the Democrats hold all the elected power and it's a One Party country? What will be their "place" in that scenario?

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (JI/0U)

92 There were commenters who thought Trump was so bad that the electors should change their votes. Yeah they were a bit unhinged. Others that flounced saying they would come back to gloat when Trump lost to Hillary in a landslide...

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (CYnTg)

93 >>>Eventually, Tom, you have to deliver the goods. You and your crew never have. Wanna know why you and your arrogant technocrat buddies not only aren't respected but are ignored until the rubes get around to pillorying you? It's because you're stupid.

I also am fond of pointing out that an "expert" who offers his "expertise" freely is not an expert. Experts get paid.

Lawyers will not give off-the-cuff legal advice, usually. Part of that is because to really render anything like real advice, they have go through hours of getting the facts and reviewing the law. Any "advice" which is not backed by that work is not advice, it's bullshit they're saying to make you go away.

I pay for experts, when I want their advice. When I've looked up their bona fides and determined they're worth listening to.

But Tom Nichols bloviates on Twitter all day for free. He thinks his advice is worth something. But it's worth exactly what he's charging for it. It's worth literally nothing.

He's not an expert. He's a Twitter Ego Queen.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (0G13K)

94 FWIW Tom Nichols is is most sincerely useless.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (vO+yX)

95 Autocorrect killed the editors' job!

Posted by: The Buggles at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (UHVv4)

96 Nichols's "expertise" is part of a self-contained world, in which those who go through the proper channels are given the label. "Credentialed". But unlike plumbers (whom Nichols has used as an example) there is no way anyone outside can tell if he's right, wrong, or irrelevant.

Before the Trump schism, I read a couple of NWC articles by him, and all I can see is they made no impression whatsoever.

A contrast: the foremost writer on warships today (I would say "ever") is Norman Friedman. He's actually a physicist, and got into writing about ships as a hobby. A review of his first book hit him for that. A few years later, in the same pub, another review of another writer criticized that book as lacking "the Friedman touch."

Posted by: Eeyore at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (7X3UV)

97 F. Tom Nichols.

2000 hours makes one expert at sucking cock.

Posted by: Golfman at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (hOMhY)

98 (and note that NeverTrump "thought leaders" are dumb and lazy and chiefly just repeat what the leftwing media (and their corporate donors) tell them)
++++
If you call someone a "thought leader" and he doesn't deny it and/or get offended, don't trust him. I had this happen to me once. My boss, during a meeting (just the two of us) was going over where she thought I should focus me efforts. She said something like "... a great thing for our thought leaders like you to be working ..."

When she finished, I said, "That sounds fine. I'll do it - but only on the condition that you never call me a 'thought leader' ever again." She was surprised, then we talked about why.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (DU+/6)

99 That review of Tom Nichol's book is hilarious, and brilliant!!! I'm glad he slogged through and actually read it, so I don't have to.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (trdmm)

100 I don't know of any who are still active but there are some who left that i miss.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (0G13K)

Me too. The summer of 2016 was brutal. I remember you said you were going to become a Democrat because you were tired of losing. I almost cried with frustration.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (Mzdiz)

101 the expert class is America's modification of the aristocracy

Like most Americanized foreign things, it takes a failure and makes it worse.

Posted by: egads that cynical but I can't deny it at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (H5baN)

102 When will your next defection take place?
================

Just now.

Oh! No "A" there, my mistake.

Posted by: Sundown Joe Biden, needs new Depends at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (FKHhS)

103 BTW another thing about experts is that you consult them to find out how to do the thing you want to do, or to find out if it's even possible.

That's not what the fake twitter experts do, of course. They do not act like a real expert and listen to your intended goal and figure out how to accomplish that.

Instead, they just tell you what your goal SHOULD be.

That's the easy part. That takes no effort.

But that's all they have on offer.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (0G13K)

104 To deny Trump was an effective president who did more for our side than anybody since at least Reagan is just insane. If your hatred of his personality makes you that blind you have an issue.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (CYnTg)

105 I can't understand nevertrumpers. It defies common sense. Anyone with a brain could see Biden would be a disaster. To choose him over Trump is not possible in my reality.
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (Tnijr)
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I can't understand how any pragmatic person can't understand you block for the guy moving the chains!

It's that damn simple.

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (XHhHI)

106 "The Bulwark"
"The Dispatch"
"Eugenics"
"Aether"
"Lobotomy"

Alex, What are five concepts best never heard from again?

Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (8erNz)

107 How long do they think this will continue?
What do they think will happen when the Democrats hold all the elected power and it's a One Party country? What will be their "place" in that scenario?
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM


They hope to be killed last.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (EughT)

108 Is this like one of those Marvel v. DC posts?

Star Trek vs Star Wars

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (KZzsI)

109 But Tom Nichols bloviates on Twitter all day for free. He thinks his advice is worth something. But it's worth exactly what he's charging for it. It's worth literally nothing.

He's not an expert. He's a Twitter Ego Queen.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (0G13K)
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Less than nothing. Not only is not worth paying for, if you follow his advice you'll probably end up dead in a pile of other corpses.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (DU+/6)

110 Anyone who calls themselves a thought leader is delusional. Off the top of my head, Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, heck Bill Maher could I suppose be called 'thought leaders' if we're going to use such a stupid term. But I doubt that particular thought to call themselves so even crosses their mind.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (fs1hN)

111 F. Tom Nichols.

2000 hours makes one expert at sucking cock.

Posted by: Golfman at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (hOMhY)


Way to go, Nickelodeon!

Posted by: mrp at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (Pqytn)

112 Ladybugs are a blessing. Want to trade my stinkbugs?

--

I'm with you! Ladybugs are the only bug I'll let crawl onto my fingernail bed so I can safely escort them to safety.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (sVtYq)

113 105 I can't understand nevertrumpers. It defies common sense. Anyone with a brain could see Biden would be a disaster. To choose him over Trump is not possible in my reality.
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (Tnijr)

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Because they're class obsessed and reliant on the federal government being a graft machine for their employers.

It's not really that difficult to understand, I don't think.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (LvTSG)

114 96 I have pretty much every Friedman book.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (CYnTg)

115 FWIW Tom Nichols is is most sincerely useless.
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An "expert" at it, one might even say

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (FKHhS)

116 I'm gonna change my name to Gonads Goldberg.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (d9FiS)

117 108 Is this like one of those Marvel v. DC posts?

Star Trek vs Star Wars
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (KZzsI)

==========

Red Dwarf vs. Classic Doctor Who

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (LvTSG)

118 I can't understand nevertrumpers

Trump was icky and he made mean tweets

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (RLGan)

119 This is not a blessing. I have to wear a mask outside so I don't inhale the damn things. And we have mass numbers of stinkbugs too.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (0ryfU)

If you can collect them and sort out the ladybugs, you could make big money. People pay for them, you know.

My goddamn cats chase stinkbugs out here on the porch and reek of stinkbugs. I like cilantro, but this is too much.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (Mzdiz)

120 86 Just can't reconcile criticizing NeverTrump blog authors without criticizing NeverTrump voters. Both are complicit.
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (Fs5vw)

I understand what he means - it's a measure of the level of responsibility. None of our votes actually counted in the last election anyways.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (trdmm)

121 I have to bartend a wedding reception at a yacht club tonight. I've never been to a yacht club before.

Should I wear an ascot or a sweater tied around my waist?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (7F9te)

122 >>>Less than nothing. Not only is not worth paying for, if you follow his advice you'll probably end up dead in a pile of other corpses.


If he's the All-Around All-Purpose Expert Without Portfolio he claims to be, why is he obese? Can't he quickly whip up an expert plan for weight management and adhere to it using his highly trained mind?

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (0G13K)

123
Breaking "news":

Adult pretender and hollywood celery Michael Caine is mort.

Just kidding. He's retiring from pretending.

Whofuckingcares.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (JI/0U)

124 Jonah Goldberg: "Is it really cuckoldry if you pay for the bull that plows through your wife like Hunter Biden through cocaine?"

Posted by: Thrawn at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (5aFbR)

125 Another writer on ships, whose last name will be familiar to all, was also an amateur. As a newspaper artist, he covered the bombardment of Alexandria in 1882. He liked drawing the ships, and sought out others to sketch. By 1898 his collection had so grown that he put out a book, All The World's Fighting Ships. His name was Fred T Jane.

But neither he nor Friedman would qualify under the standards by which Nichols earned his laurels.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (7X3UV)

126 Instead, they just tell you what your goal SHOULD be.

That's the easy part. That takes no effort.

But that's all they have on offer.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (0G13K)
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Because the whole intelligentsia is invested in the CT idea that the rabble does not know what their "best interest" is.

Once you buy that you can dismiss people on what their best interest is, you don't need to listen to them because you should be fostering their *real* best interest.

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (XHhHI)

127 >>>Because they're class obsessed and reliant on the federal government being a graft machine for their employers.


yes and yes

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (0G13K)

128 I'm listening to NPR desperately spinning spinning spinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnning the VA gov situation.

I'd laugh like hell if they didn't actually have a chance of pulling this out.

Beltway delenda est.

Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (8erNz)

129 My cat wanted nothing to do with stinkbugs. Crickets he left heads and those big rear legs everywhere when he was done with them...

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (CYnTg)

130 "but by morning they'd start telling me how under comrade Trump, we were going to have the greatest harvest we've ever seen."

And this is why Jonah Goldberg is stupid. We *did* have "the greatest harvest we've ever seen", until the plandemic hit. But Jonah hasn't recognized that. There actually *is* liberal fascism going full steam ahead, and it took exactly the form Jonah described in what is allegedly his own book. But Jonah hasn't recognized that.

It's like all he knows is theory, and even when his theory is correct and something he predicted really happens, he somehow can't recognize it.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (ZGrMX)

131 They hope to be killed last.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (EughT)

If they took the jab, it's moot.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (Mzdiz)

132 FWIW Tom Nichols is is most sincerely useless.

-
He's an expert in experting.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (d9FiS)

133 120 86 Just can't reconcile criticizing NeverTrump blog authors without criticizing NeverTrump voters. Both are complicit.
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (Fs5vw)

I understand what he means - it's a measure of the level of responsibility. None of our votes actually counted in the last election anyways.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (trdmm)

=======

NeverTrump voters aren't demanding that we bow to their expertise. NeverTrump "intellectuals" are pretending like they were right for the past 5 years and that we should love them for their erudition by giving them more money and influence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (LvTSG)

134
Michael Caine is the size of a.....

tangerine.

https://youtu.be/ZS6bD3SpIvk

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (JI/0U)

135 "I can't understand how any pragmatic person can't understand you block for the guy moving the chains!
It's that damn simple.
Posted by: Axeman "


You would think so but there has to be something else that overrides the pragmatism.

Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (Tnijr)

136 >>>So I have no actual animus towards NeverTrump voters. If Trump was too toxic for you to vote for -- I get that. I wondered about that my own self.

I've admitted it before but not recently. I was NeverTrump until about Nov 10th sadly, though:

1. I was in a state where the outcome was never in question. Had it been, my sacred honor would have been given a middle back seat while pragmatism took over.
2. I stfu during the run up to the election because I actually did want Trump to win. I just didn't want to support him.

Anyway about Nov 10 was when the lies finally became clear. When for every other President prior even an avowed Marxist and known socialist, we had a "well the election is over we need to wait and see to see how he actually governs prior to rolling out the opposition"

But not for Trump, wherein my own side whom cut every Democrat slack during the "honeymoon" period started right in, in the days after, making public alliances with people whom were supposedly ideological and political enemies, to stop Trump before he'd done a damn thing that needed stopping.

I knew I'd been had then. I was ready to walk over hot broken glass in 2020 to vote Trump.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (T/vhV)

137 The man had a career the size of a tangerine.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (CYnTg)

138 127 >>>Because they're class obsessed and reliant on the federal government being a graft machine for their employers.


yes and yes
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (0G13K)

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I made a good head thing. I smert.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (LvTSG)

139
Is this the Great Star Wars trek or the Great Star Trek wars?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (97I0d)

140 I don't know of any who are still active but there are some who left that i miss.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (0G13K)

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Come back, Gabe!
==
Cruel, but funny nonetheless.

Posted by: a smattering of polite applause at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (9wv5x)

141 There is no denying the propensity for obesity among cucks. It's peculiar.

I posit that their gluttony is a reflection of the other greed that drives their other behaviors.

Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (cTqLg)

142 Without my having done an iota of research on the concept, whaddya wanna bet I'm not far wrong to assert the following:

The Venn Diagram of NeverTrumpers and Faucci Followers is as close to a perfect circle as geometry and mathematical precision may allow.

Trump himself being the self-evidencing exception here, in urging the jab, all while being as Pro Trump as is humanly possible to achieve.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (QzJWU)

143 124 Jonah Goldberg: "Is it really cuckoldry if you pay for the bull that plows through your wife like Hunter Biden through cocaine?"

Posted by: Thrawn at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (5aFbR)

It's especially so when you're the one out in the kitchen making two - and only two - sandwiches.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (6FeV1)

144 Should I wear an ascot or a sweater tied around my waist?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (7F9te)

Go sockless.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (Mzdiz)

145 This is madness! I have at least 1 million ladybugs on my house

******

Any of them wearing pussy hats?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (5Woea)

146 >>>
NeverTrump voters aren't demanding that we bow to their expertise. NeverTrump "intellectuals" are pretending like they were right for the past 5 years and that we should love them for their erudition by giving them more money and influence.

they're now criticizing Biden without admitting that they propagandized for him, or accounting for their own errors in doing so.

They just want you to forget their six years of grievous mistakes.

Trump has to admit every mistake, but the NeverTrumpers? Nah.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (0G13K)

147 have to bartend a wedding reception at a yacht club tonight. I've never been to a yacht club before.

Should I wear an ascot or a sweater tied around my waist?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (7F9te)

So you're walking into a party AND onto to a yacht?
You must be vain!

Posted by: Carly Simon at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (mR6Gs)

148 Boeing workers protesting mandatory vaccination.

https://bit.ly/2Z34qP4

Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (UW2ZS)

149 Adult pretender and hollywood celery Michael Caine is mort.

Just kidding. He's retiring from pretending.

Whofuckingcares.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (JI/0U)
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I kinda do. Caine is the main actor I know that could act in a total stinker and somebody asks you how the movie was and you can say "Michael Caine was good..."

You could watch Santa Claus vs. the Martians with Michael Caine as Santa and people would still go "Michael Caine did a good job".

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (XHhHI)

150 >>>143 124 Jonah Goldberg: "Is it really cuckoldry if you pay for the bull that plows through your wife like Hunter Biden through cocaine?"


Please cite me as the man you are quoting.

Posted by: Confucius at October 15, 2021 03:34 PM (0G13K)

151 This is madness! I have at least 1 million ladybugs on my house
==================

It's an insurrection! Hide!

Posted by: Nanzi Pelosi at October 15, 2021 03:34 PM (FKHhS)

152 The Ocean-liner Grindr!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 15, 2021 03:34 PM (UHVv4)

153 When she finished, I said, "That sounds fine. I'll do it - but only on the condition that you never call me a 'thought leader' ever again." She was surprised, then we talked about why.

Should have insisted that she use your proper titles: Brain Lord and Idea Fuhrer.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2021 03:34 PM (QU5/8)

154 More biggerer more betterer lies.

Biden Spox: Harris 'Has Done A Tremendous Job' On The Border

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 15, 2021 03:34 PM (d9FiS)

155
Biden Spox: Harris 'Has Done A Tremendous Job' On The Border

Canadian ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (RLGan)

156 >>I kinda do. Caine is the main actor I know that could act in a total stinker and somebody asks you how the movie was and you can say "Michael Caine was good..."


I've had a yen to watch the early eighties bomb "The Island" (the one based on the Peter Benchley book, not the Michael Bay clone one) just to see some 80s Caine.

And I know it's a bad movie. I read the book and that wasn't that great, either.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (0G13K)

157 Everything I know about yachting I learned while watching Caddyshack.

Posted by: mrp at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (Pqytn)

158 If Trump runs in 2024, all these cucks will endorse him.
They'll have no other choice because things are going to be intolerable.
But they will write tortured articles about it.

Posted by: Carly Simon at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (mR6Gs)

159 146 they're now criticizing Biden without admitting that they propagandized for him, or accounting for their own errors in doing so.

They just want you to forget their six years of grievous mistakes.

Trump has to admit every mistake, but the NeverTrumpers? Nah.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (0G13K)

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They can criticize Biden all day and all night. Doesn't mean I'm re-upping my NR subscription.

Realizing reality months or years late isn't why I would subscribe to a political magazine.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (LvTSG)

160 they're now criticizing Biden without admitting that they propagandized for him, or accounting for their own errors in doing so.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (0G13K)
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Exactly. Deception is not an intellectual value. Elusion is not an intellectual value.

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (XHhHI)

161 And they talk about the " big lie" by Trump

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (CYnTg)

162
Adult pretender and hollywood celery Michael Caine is mort.

Just kidding. He's retiring from pretending.


I loved him paired with Sean Connery in "The Man Who Would Be King".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (97I0d)

163

You could watch Santa Claus vs. the Martians with Michael Caine as Santa and people would still go "Michael Caine did a good job".
Posted by: Axeman


He was in JAWS fcking 3fckingD.

btw, that shark was the size of a tangerine

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (JI/0U)

164 "Ruckus in the Cuckhouse" was some of Jethro Tull's finest work.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (5l6FZ)

165 Uh what kind of 'job' did Harris do on the border, exactly? Is the border satisfied?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (fs1hN)

166 Should I wear an ascot or a sweater tied around my waist?

Wear an ascot and bring a brainy chick, a ditzy lesbian, a stoner, and a Great Dane.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (ZGrMX)

167 Biden Spox: Harris 'Has Done A Tremendous Job' On The Border

Blow?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (mR6Gs)

168 ---The Bulwark Vs. The Dispatch: The Ruckus In the Cuckhouse

ace has to be tickled to death about this development. I look forward to the mocking.
It's a fight between 2 groups of entitled obese effeminate fat gay retards.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (JepKJ)

169 156 I've had a yen to watch the early eighties bomb "The Island" (the one based on the Peter Benchley book, not the Michael Bay clone one) just to see some 80s Caine.

And I know it's a bad movie. I read the book and that wasn't that great, either.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (0G13K)

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Tenet! Where he delivers exposition in the most haughty and high classed way possible! It's a tour de force!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (LvTSG)

170 It's getting boring reading the Never Trumpers saying we never criticize Trump. They really have become just like the liberals they used to mock for getting conservatives wrong.

It's also notable that they don't seem to have very many differences among themselves; another feature of the American Right that NR used to trumpet. So maybe they're trying to drum up something to compare with Meyer vs Kemp, or Jaffa vs Kendall. Or lately the exchange between Anton and Gottfried at AG. It won't work; the teapot is too small.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (7X3UV)

171 Biden Spox: Harris 'Has Done A Tremendous Job' On The Border
===============

What would you say she "did", exactly?

Posted by: The Bobs at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (FKHhS)

172 156 I watched it not too long ago. It's not the worst script Caine ever did by a large margin....

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (CYnTg)

173
Mike Caine was in the original Get Carter. 1973, I think.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (JI/0U)

174 I kinda do. Caine is the main actor I know that could act in a total stinker and somebody asks you how the movie was and you can say "Michael Caine was good..."

Michael Caine is the poor kid who got f'n rich as hell by working the corners of a system that didn't favor him, and never to this day overvalued himself.

Viz so many sports heroes.

Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (8erNz)

175 I watched The Swarm again a few weeks ago.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (CYnTg)

176 158 If Trump runs in 2024, all these cucks will endorse him.
They'll have no other choice because things are going to be intolerable.
But they will write tortured articles about it.
Posted by: Carly Simon at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (mR6Gs)

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"On page 18, beneath a half page article about the evils of populism, we endorsed Trump with about two inches of column space without mentioning it on the cover of the volume. What else did you want?!"
-National Review

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (LvTSG)

177 >>>Tenet! Where he delivers exposition in the most haughty and high classed way possible! It's a tour de force!


yeah he's always good in everything and he was good in that. But I want to see young Caine. (Or young-ish.)

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (0G13K)

178 114 96 I have pretty much every Friedman book.
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (CYnTg)
_________

As my father used to say, "We could kill a fifth pleasantly."

Posted by: Eeyore at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (7X3UV)

179
Biden Spox: Harris 'Has Done A Tremendous Job' On The Border


An assertion offered without evidence offered to back it, I'm sure.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (97I0d)

180 They can criticize Biden all day and all night. Doesn't mean I'm re-upping my NR subscription.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (LvTSG)
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The problem with these people is that they didn't SMELL ANYTHING on the campaign trail.

I did. And it STUNK.

Not knowing that Joe Biden was a lifelong braggart and OF COURSE, he would say he could do anything "better"--that's what braggarts do, is a serious strike against your case of punditry.

Being "blindsided" by 50-years-in Biden is a heck of a feat (and not in a good way).

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (XHhHI)

181 It's a fight between 2 groups of entitled obese effeminate fat gay retards.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (JepKJ)

Isn't that a little harsh?

Oh wait..I reread it..Nope, that checks out.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (Y5qcH)

182 >>>Trump himself being the self-evidencing exception here, in urging the jab

Jim, SND

How I wish he would just SHUT UP about the clot shot already. Just never fucking mention it, if he can't speak the truth about it.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (Mzdiz)

183 173 Yep, very good movie

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:38 PM (CYnTg)

184 C'mon! Caine was in both Zulu and THe Man Who Would Be King! That's gotta give him Horde creds if nothing else does!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 15, 2021 03:38 PM (dfRN6)

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Posted by: Conseroticism, LLC at October 15, 2021 03:38 PM (DU+/6)

186
143 124 Jonah Goldberg: "Is it really cuckoldry if you pay for the bull that plows through your wife like Hunter Biden through cocaine?"


Please cite me as the man you are quoting.
Posted by: Confucius



hahaha, nice zing, Ace.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:38 PM (JI/0U)

187 177 yeah he's always good in everything and he was good in that. But I want to see young Caine. (Or young-ish.)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (0G13K)

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To Dolley, my wife, his career begins and ends with Muppet Christmas Carol.

Since I married her, I think it's the movie I've seen the most.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:38 PM (LvTSG)

188 Seeing Mona Charen's name reminds me: Whatever happened to commenter Ms. Chokesondick?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 15, 2021 03:38 PM (sWM8x)

189 >>>175 I watched The Swarm again a few weeks ago.


haha, was it dreadful? Or all right?

Caine was very upfront about his choice of roles. Once a year he'd look for something good, and, in the winter, he'd look for a movie, any piece of shit would do, that paid well *and* was filming on-location in the Caribbean or Florida.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:38 PM (0G13K)

190
Ace seems to really be into Alfie, but won't admit it.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:39 PM (JI/0U)

191 I get ace saying that he would like some of the NTs to come back, but I disagree.

Can anyone credibly say that Hillary would be better than Biden as things stand now? It is an interesting argument because it might have meant left of the fringy shit and just never ending grift, but I think it is a fair question.

When it comes down to it: their disdain of Trump overrode every other concern. Friends? Allies? The State of the Country? Everything was LESS important than them being seen as being even TOLERANT of Trump.

And that I do NOT have patience for.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:39 PM (kBuGL)

192 180 Being "blindsided" by 50-years-in Biden is a heck of a feat (and not in a good way).
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (XHhHI)

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They weren't blindsided. They lied.

I'm happy to hear more voices in the cacophony criticizing our vegetable in chief, but they deserve no more attention than pretty much the entirety of Twitter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:39 PM (LvTSG)

193 My review of Solarbabies (I movie I hate without end) with Michael Caine in it: "Caine was good."

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:39 PM (XHhHI)

194 French said he fears the "angry populist" movement of the Trump era--or "the new right, as he has also put it

The only thing 'new' about us is that we're not taking your shit anymore.

Posted by: t-bird at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (DMQdU)

195 My Cocaine??

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (xPJvm)

196 You all are forgetting Michael Caine's greatest acting role - acting as an evil oil tycoon in the Steven Seagal classic "On Deadly Ground."

Posted by: Thrawn at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (5aFbR)

197 As a child, I was obsessed with seeing The Island in the theater. I did and regretted it even then. I've never gone back and watched it. But I would if it was on cable for free, just for old times' sake. Sorry, Caine, I ain't paying for that stinker twice.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (QU5/8)

198
Whatever happened to commenter Ms. Chokesondick?
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist


She's veep now ... do try to keep up.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (97I0d)

199 189 It has a Hell of a cast I'll tell you. It's really not that bad

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (CYnTg)

200
I love how Jonah loves to tell the same damn joke about gas-station sushi all the time, when you know that he's not above vacuuming down five pounds of it. As if anyone believes there's some kind of comestible he'd pass up. A refrigerator case with a picture of food on it would never survive an encounter with him.

Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (cTqLg)

201 Is a thought leader like a bell cow?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (5Woea)

202 Biden Spox: Harris 'Has Done A Tremendous Job' On The Border

An assertion offered without evidence offered to back it, I'm sure.


She opened her 'Blowjobs, 50 Centavos' booth but didn't have Square set up to take credit and couldn't make local change.

Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (8erNz)

203 >>>I get ace saying that he would like some of the NTs to come back, but I disagree.


i'm not saying that, really. I don't think we have anything in common any more.

I just want to be clear about who it is I think needs to stand for some accountability. It's the "influencers" and grifters and "thinkers" who gave the advice who must be held accountable, not the saps who took that advice.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (0G13K)

204 "I voted for Brexit. I'd rather be a poor master than a rich servant. It wasn't about racism, immigrants or anything, it was about freedom"

~~ Michael Caine

Posted by: Quotes that surprise at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (FKHhS)

205 201 Is a thought leader like a bell cow?
Posted by: Muldoon at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (5Woea)

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Closer to a writing desk.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (LvTSG)

206 Trump is a white trash southern democrat populist. Which may be good or bad. He is not a economic libertarian free trade conservative like the neo-cons and never trumpers. Thanks to nixon and reagan most republican voters are populists william f buckley conservatives.

Posted by: carley at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (727nS)

207 And for my own part when I did come back I lurked for a long time before posting again shamed by my own error. I hate being wrong, I really really hate being wrong about anything important and boy howdy did I call that one wrong. All the way.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (T/vhV)

208 To Dolley, my wife, his career begins and ends with Muppet Christmas Carol.
==
Has she seen the Italian Job, or the Man who would be King?

Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (PXj+e)

209 Here's the problem for these poor sad sacks: If they admit there are gradiations between being totally for and totally against Trump, then they have to admit that people might just be supporting Trump over issues, accomplishments, and the state of the country rather than glassy-eyed cultic worship.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (KZzsI)

210
remember the Gristled Encase Head guy?

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (JI/0U)

211 208 To Dolley, my wife, his career begins and ends with Muppet Christmas Carol.
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Has she seen the Italian Job, or the Man who would be King?
Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (PXj+e)

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Are women allowed to like The Man Who Would be King?

Is that legal?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:42 PM (LvTSG)

212 >>>204 "I voted for Brexit. I'd rather be a poor master than a rich servant. It wasn't about racism, immigrants or anything, it was about freedom"

~~ Michael Caine
Posted by: Quotes that surprise

he's pretty based.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:42 PM (0G13K)

213 NeverTrump voters aren't demanding that we bow to their expertise. NeverTrump "intellectuals" are pretending like they were right for the past 5 years and that we should love them for their erudition by giving them more money and influence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (LvTSG


But who has more power? They're equal in my eyes. One writes on blogs that few people read, and others make comments that few people read. But both groups vote NeverTrump (whether the votes are counted or not). That's equity.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 15, 2021 03:42 PM (Fs5vw)

214 I really really hate being wrong about anything important and boy howdy did I call that one wrong. All the way.
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Dude. Like everybody here voted for McCain and Romney.
Chill.

Posted by: And you could go back further at October 15, 2021 03:42 PM (laiy4)

215 They weren't blindsided. They lied.

I'm happy to hear more voices in the cacophony criticizing our vegetable in chief, but they deserve no more attention than pretty much the entirety of Twitter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:39 PM (LvTSG)
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Sometimes you have to argue with the case that will be presented to you. Nobody comes up and makes the case "I lied" unless they are not arguing with you but coming for contrition.

They will claim to have been blindsided by a guy who made his odiousness known for 50 years.

I don't usually need to argue with the premise that I know what is going on in somebody else's mind.

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (XHhHI)

216 214 Dude. Like everybody here voted for McCain and Romney.
Chill.
Posted by: And you could go back further at October 15, 2021 03:42 PM (laiy4)

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I did not vote for McCain.

I was living in Italy and forgot to request an absentee ballot.

So, I got that going for me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (LvTSG)

217 210 Teddy Kennedy's in fact...

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (CYnTg)

218 Ace seems to really be into Alfie, but won't admit it.

I liked that

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (RLGan)

219 177 yeah he's always good in everything and he was good in that. But I want to see young Caine. (Or young-ish.)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (0G13K)


Billion Dollar Brain FTW.
Brain vs Caine.
Plus Ken Russell. 60's gold.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (wAnMi)

220
btw, "lincolntf" was here yesterday after a very long time being shunned by Ace for criticizing Ace's squat form. Or was it Ace's carbohydrates? I forget which.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (JI/0U)

221 Calling yourself NeverTrump pre-2016 was a defensible position for a republican or conservative.

But if you maintain that you're a republican or conservative post-2016, calling yourself NeverTrump is simply being that guy who won't admit he's cold because he didn't think a jacket was necessary.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (KbCG3)

222 218 Ace seems to really be into Alfie, but won't admit it.

I liked that
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (RLGan)

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Original Alfie is great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (LvTSG)

223
I always laughed at the nick, SomeAssholeStoleMyPen
(may have been all lower case)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (97I0d)

224 Dude. Like everybody here voted for McCain and Romney.

To be fair, in '08 I almost wrote in Palin for the President and McCain for VP.

Romney, though, woof.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (ZGrMX)

225 Are women allowed to like The Man Who Would be King?
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Oh they like it all right, they just won't want to admit it.

Same with the Wind and the Lion

Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (9wv5x)

226 Big Gub'Mint Republicans fighting over what Big Gub'Mint should or should not be doing ?

Damn - never saw that coming.

Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (eBWUj)

227
I sensed that Ace was "Needle in a Timestack"-curious. Has Caine done a chick flick he could dig on?

Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (cTqLg)

228 I like how the NT pussies continue to talk about "The Cult of Trump" when they're obviously all in The Cult of George W. Bush. They literally think everything he did was great and defend every decision he made.

They're also in the Cult of John McCain, because of course. Liberal tough-guy, tricks conservatives into agreeing with the left, what's not to like?

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (0G13K)

229 Original Alfie is great.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (LvTSG)

Was there a remake?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (vO+yX)

230 I always laughed at the nick, SomeAssholeStoleMyPen
(may have been all lower case)
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Oh, saw that one a couple of days ago actually. Great flick.

Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (MJtKT)

231 Indeed, Our Own Worst Enemy is peppered with so many internal tensions and contradictions that it's hard to believe it's not an attempt to use paradox to convey some sort of secret, true meaning.

--------

Ah, the tried-and-true idiocy of channeling Immanuel Kant. He should have called it Critique of Pure Expertise.

Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (ILUPz)

232 Dude. Like everybody here voted for McCain and Romney.
Chill.
Posted by: And you could go back further at October 15, 2021 03:42 PM (laiy4)
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Romney.

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (XHhHI)

233 There aren't any 'NeverTrump' voters. Trumps approval ratings among self-identified Republicans at the beginning of 2020 were precisely the same as those of Ronald Reagan in 1984, Richard Nixon in 1972, and George W Bush in 2004. There's an irreducible population of self-identified Republicans who are at any one time dissatisfied with the Republican incumbent and then vote for the Democrat. That proportion is around 9% of the Republican electorate. It wasn't any higher last year.

The NeverTrump strand is just like the Obamacon strand, made up entirely of people drawn from the Capitol Hill / K Street nexus and the world of opinion journalism. It has no DEMOGRAPHIC weight. What's different is that people like Pierre Omidyar and Jeff Bezos have been financing them for six years.

Posted by: Art Deco at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (1BrBu)

234
Trump is a white trash southern democrat populist. Which may be good or bad. He is not a economic libertarian free trade conservative like the neo-cons and never trumpers. Thanks to nixon and reagan most republican voters are populists william f buckley conservatives.
Posted by: carley


You're mostly accurate, but Donald Trump is most definitely a Northeast Republican.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (JI/0U)

235 Maurice Joseph Micklewhite Jr. was superb in "Deathtrap".

Posted by: SFGoth at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (KAi1n)

236 >>>I sensed that Ace was "Needle in a Timestack"-curious. Has Caine done a chick flick he could dig on?


no i thought that looked bad. I just linked it as a something to goof on.

Caine did Blame it on Rio which has a smokin' hot chick in it.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (0G13K)

237 It's more like a tickle fight to see which one pees first.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (vuisn)

238 Caine did a movie where he bangs his friends young daughter. Blame it on Rio

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (CYnTg)

239 Here's the problem for these poor sad sacks: If they admit there are gradiations between being totally for and totally against Trump, then they have to admit that people might just be supporting Trump over issues, accomplishments, and the state of the country rather than glassy-eyed cultic worship.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (KZzsI)

I don't get the "cult" accusation at all. It's just projection.
If Trump "evolved" on his immigration stand or raised taxes, his voters would have deserted him so fast,
The DEMOCRATS are the cultists because they don't THINK at about anything, just vote whoever has the (D) by his name--even if he's a dementia-riddled POS

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (mR6Gs)

240 207 And for my own part when I did come back I lurked for a long time before posting again shamed by my own error. I hate being wrong, I really really hate being wrong about anything important and boy howdy did I call that one wrong. All the way.
Posted by: mikethemoose at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (T/vhV)

Watch the rainstorm apology scene in The Train Robbers to understand what I mean here:

'What's wrong with him?'

"Not one DAMN thing!"

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (kBuGL)

241 Original Alfie is great.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (LvTSG)

Was there a remake?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (vO+yX)
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With Jude Law. Law has, IMO, a lot of talent.

But Caine shines.

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (XHhHI)

242 The bitch-slapping going on between these two panty-wastes must be awesome.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (BFigT)

243 Was there a remake?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (vO+yX)

Yes

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (RLGan)

244 The acceptance of the NeverTrump attitude says one thing about people, and it doesn't matter if they are writers or voters.

You'll note, it is not "never energy independence," "never middle east peace' or "never full employment."

It is always "never trump."

They never complain of the policies -- not even one. They complain of Trump

That means they are shallow. That means they would rather have someone in who fits their idea of "nice" or whatever (funny, though, they never complain about people who rip up speeches on global TV or who refuses to stand up for the head of their party when he's being unjustly impeached. That strikes me as "mean," "vulgar," or whatever other adj you want to use) than to put America first.

Yeah, some of us are blunt. But it's the truth. If you'd rather be with the Kool Kids than MAGA...you're shallow.

Posted by: magaproud at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (x5dTf)

245 Should I wear an ascot or a sweater tied around my waist?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (7F9te)

Dress like Judge Smails in "Caddyshack" when Al Czervik sank his boat.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (R/m4+)

246 Was there a remake?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (vO+yX)
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With Jude Law. Law has, IMO, a lot of talent.

But Caine shines.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (XHhHI

The things I learn here.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (vO+yX)

247
Caine did a movie where he bangs his friends young daughter. Blame it on Rio
Posted by: steevy


Mrs Bruce Willis

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (JI/0U)

248 Caine did a movie where he bangs his friends young daughter. Blame it on Rio
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (CYnTg)

Michelle Johnson's perfect under-aged rack

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (mR6Gs)

249 Calling yourself NeverTrump pre-2016 was a defensible position for a republican or conservative.

But if you maintain that you're a republican or conservative post-2016, calling yourself NeverTrump is simply being that guy who won't admit he's cold because he didn't think a jacket was necessary.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (KbCG3)
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Not, it wasn't. Not liking Trump, not voting for him in the primary, thing like that? Fine. That's politics. Not supporting the candidate and not voting for him in the general? Less good, but whatever.

But that isn't being "NeverTrump." That isn't insanity. That's just politics. NeverTrump is different. That is "no matter what, no matter how successful, no matter the real progress, I will never ever support him." That's pathology. There's a huge difference between "Trump-skeptical" or "I don't like him" and being "NeverTrump."

It's like during presidential campaigns and people get bumper stickers like, "Anyone but {Candidate X}." Be careful what you wish for. Did I like Hillary? No. Were there worse options? Undoubtedly. Would I vote for a worse option just to block Hillary? No.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (DU+/6)

250 I love how Jonah loves to tell the same damn joke about gas-station sushi all the time, when you know that he's not above vacuuming down five pounds of it. As if anyone believes there's some kind of comestible he'd pass up. A refrigerator case with a picture of food on it would never survive an encounter with him.
Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (cTqLg)


I'd be willing to bet he's got one of those hot dog rollers in his kitchen. He loads it up every morning.

Makes hot dog soup with the leftovers. Writes about how there's nothing better on a cold winter evening than a steaming bowl of hot dog soup, loaf of crusty sour dough bread and a box of wine.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (wAnMi)

251 Down goes Jonah!!!

Uh, down goes Mona!!!

Um. They're both going down, folks!

Posted by: zombie Howard Cosell at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (UHVv4)

252 If Trump "evolved" on his immigration stand or raised taxes, his voters would have deserted him so fast,
The DEMOCRATS are the cultists because they don't THINK at about anything, just vote whoever has the (D) by his name--even if he's a dementia-riddled POS

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (mR6Gs)
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If Trump seemed to "evolve" on anything, it always seemed to be more toward his conservative base. More Constitutionalist, more federalist...

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (XHhHI)

253 There's always ZULU.

Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (9wv5x)

254
no i thought that looked bad. I just linked it as a something to goof on.
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Ah. I misread that and thought "really, dude?!"

But I won't goof on it. That sucker is a damned near perfect chick-flick... "a couple of high-value dudes fight a running battle across time for the love of this Amazing Woman Who Is Just Like You, The Viewer."

I wish I'd thought of that shit.

Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (cTqLg)

255 > I kinda do. Caine is the main actor I know that could act in a total stinker and somebody asks you how the movie was and you can say "Michael Caine was good..."

Caine and Ben Kingsley did a delightful little Sherlock Holmes comedy.

In this version Dr Watson, played by Kingsley, is the real brains behind the operation. Kingsley needed a fake Holmes because he wanted to go to a very prestigious and snooty medical college that would have rejected him if they knew about Watson's habit of moonlighting as a detective.

But that backfired on Watson. People loved Holmes, so Watson couldn't get rid of him. Additionally, Holmes is a terrible person. He's an idiot. He gambles too much. He drinks too much. He treats women badly. He chafes at the rules and requirements of Watson.

It's sort of an odd couple comedy, and I enjoyed it.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (UW2ZS)

256 For a year I believed Hillary would win, and the republic would not long endure such a long streak of nasty awful presidents. Rolling the dice on Trump was easy.

F*kn midwits.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (/hXfz)

257 Russian Warship Chases American Destroyer USS Chafee Away From Its Waters In The Sea Of Japan For 'Violating International Rules' During Moscow-Beijing Joint Drills
Russia claimed one of its warships on Friday forced a U.S. Navy destroyer to abandon what it said was an attempt to intrude into its territorial waters in the Sea of Japan.

Video released by the Russian ministry of defense appears to show the moment its anti-submarine vessel Admiral Tributs closed to within 60 yards of the U.S. destroyer USS Chafee in Peter the Great Gulf, to the south of Vladivostok.

But the account was disputed by U.S. officials who said the interaction was 'safe and professional,' according to Fox News.

US warship intercepted by Russian Navy while trying to sail into country's territorial waters, Moscow says amid drills with China

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (UHVv4)

258 >>>235 Maurice Joseph Micklewhite Jr. was superb in "Deathtrap".


that's a good movie. The statue of the sailor you see in Lawrence Olivier's parlor was put into Knives Out as an homage.

I just googled to find out if Caine had ever been in a movie with James Mason. They were in 1974's The Destructors together aka The Marseille Connection. I might have to watch that just based on the cast.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (0G13K)

259 They're also in the Cult of John McCain, because of course. Liberal tough-guy, tricks conservatives into agreeing with the left, what's not to like?

NTers on Twitter get *really* mad when someone suggests McCain deliberately crashed his plane to give opsec details to the communists.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (ZGrMX)

260 Funny how people can think Trump is vulgar nowadays.

Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (Tnijr)

261 I didn't mention the title. It's called Without a Clue.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (UW2ZS)

262 251 Down goes Jonah!!!

Uh, down goes Mona!!!

Um. They're both going down, folks!
Posted by: zombie Howard Cosell at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (UHVv4)

Damn, talk about being trapped between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (kBuGL)

263 As a child, I was obsessed with seeing The Island in the theater. I did and regretted it even then.

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I seem to remember some Jacqueline Bisset boobage.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (d9FiS)

264 One of my favs is Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:49 PM (RLGan)

265 French said he fears the "angry populist" movement of the Trump era

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Ah, yes. The Trump era. March of 2020 gas in my town was 1.51. The DJI hit 29k for the first time.
My retirement accounts were going gangbusters.
Unemployment was at 3%. In my state, it was 2.1%.
Minority unemployment in October 2019 was the lowest it's ever been.
For the first time since the creation of the department of energy, the US was actually exporting energy.

There's literally nothing about David French that can't be improved by giving him a tire tool to the teeth.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 15, 2021 03:49 PM (fkgvR)

266 TBF I voted Romney because Andrew Brietbart in one of his last public addresses admonished me (us NeverRomney's) to vote for him. Out of respect I ended my NeverRomney leaning and fell into line. That's probably why I was so obstinate in 2016.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 15, 2021 03:49 PM (T/vhV)

267 Funny how people can think Trump is vulgar nowadays.
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (Tnijr)


Projection.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 15, 2021 03:49 PM (wAnMi)

268 I really could have been described as NeverBiden, come to think of it.

I watched him for decades on CSPAN. He never came off as much more than a snake with legs.

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:49 PM (XHhHI)

269 RIP Michael Caine. You were fine in a muppet Christmas Carol and The Man who would be King.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 15, 2021 03:50 PM (/hXfz)

270 >>I seem to remember some Jacqueline Bisset boobage.


no that's The Deep (with Robert Shaw)

The Deep is one of my favorite movies. I own it. Love it.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:50 PM (0G13K)

271 163

You could watch Santa Claus vs. the Martians with Michael Caine as Santa and people would still go "Michael Caine did a good job".
Posted by: Axeman

He was in JAWS fcking 3fckingD.

btw, that shark was the size of a tangerine
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (JI/0U)

I believe there's a story about that movie. It was universally panned, and a fan walked up to him one day and asked him why he acted in such a film. His answer was something along the lines of, "well, my fees for that film paid for a lovely house on the Riviera."

Refreshingly honest. I like Michael Caine.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 15, 2021 03:50 PM (mdjgu)

272 I mentioned the TV movie earlier, but I always enjoyed the Jack The Ripper TV movie/miniseries. Caine, Jane Seymour, Armand Asante. Caine plays Inspector Abberline.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:50 PM (kBuGL)

273 RIP Michael Caine.

He didn't die retired

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (RLGan)

274 I like how the NT pussies continue to talk about "The Cult of Trump" when they're obviously all in The Cult of George W. Bush. They literally think everything he did was great and defend every decision he made.

Ace - to understand Old School Republicans is to understand why we need The Draft.

They love the notion of a Benevolent State. Most people do. We'll accomplish big things - men on the moon, global peace through superior firepower, yada yada yada.

Most of today's political argument is all about what a Benevolent State should look like. Because a country full of independent farmers tending to their fields unbothered by politicians simply doesn't have those arguments.

Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (eBWUj)

275 273 RIP Michael Caine.

He didn't die retired
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (RLGan)

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Punctuation is your friend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

276 I seem to remember some Jacqueline Bisset boobage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (d9FiS)

The Deep Cleavage

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (mR6Gs)

277 The Deep is the one with the sunken ship with a cargo of morphine?

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (CYnTg)

278 He didn't die retired
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (RLGan)

He died on the job?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (Y5qcH)

279 Not, it wasn't. Not liking Trump, not voting for him in the primary, thing like that? Fine. That's politics. Not supporting the candidate and not voting for him in the general? Less good, but whatever.

But that isn't being "NeverTrump." That isn't insanity. That's just politics. NeverTrump is different. That is "no matter what, no matter how successful, no matter the real progress, I will never ever support him." That's pathology. There's a huge difference between "Trump-skeptical" or "I don't like him" and being "NeverTrump."

It's like during presidential campaigns and people get bumper stickers like, "Anyone but {Candidate X}." Be careful what you wish for. Did I like Hillary? No. Were there worse options? Undoubtedly. Would I vote for a worse option just to block Hillary? No.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (DU+/6)

You're right but the difference is simply semantics. I thought Trump was a buffoon in 2015-2016. Didn't think I could ever get behind him. Then he started to govern and boom, 180.

Yes, NeverTrump(TM) is a pathos but it was also a sentiment.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (KbCG3)

280 Blame it on Rio has a completely different vibe watching it 35 years after it first came out vs watching it when it first came out. Huh.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (fs1hN)

281 Punctuation is your friend.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

Yeah.. LOL... He retired

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (RLGan)

282 If it weren't for Ace talking about these people I would have no idea who they were. Fat Jonah excluded since I;ve known about the cuck from Goucher College for a long time.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Let's Go Brandon at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (OalnH)

283
RIP Michael Caine. You were fine in a muppet Christmas Carol and The Man who would be King.
Posted by: BourbonChicken


RIP

And he was great as the voice of Darth Vader.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (JI/0U)

284 Funny how people can think Trump is vulgar nowadays.

Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (Tnijr)
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It's their compartmentalized thinking.

"You conservatives shouldn't be happy with a guy who said 'pussy'! It's so terrible that you could be okay with that!"

It's just like the Jesus-swindle they do periodically. People who don't believe that Jesus was God Incarnate, so don't have the same picture of infallibility to bring to the table, will always want to tell you what Jesus would think, being just a man.

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (XHhHI)

285 >>>277 The Deep is the one with the sunken ship with a cargo of morphine?


yeah it's great, great, great. Great John Barry score.

And the underwater scenes are more exciting than those in Thunderball.

I always thought of it as an honorary James Bond movie.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (0G13K)

286 -
It's sort of an odd couple comedy, and I enjoyed it.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM
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Same here.

Posted by: irright at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (SchQD)

287 RIP Michael Caine.

He didn't die retired
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (RLGan)


I hate to even say this, but this announcement has that ring of..."it won't be long."

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (mR6Gs)

288 Bro, I still have no clue as to the real difference between Yhe Bulwark and The Dispatch after reading that and the last few years observing from here. It is like the NWO splitting up into The Wolfpack faction of Red and Black and the regular NWO of Black and White. They were still the same.
God Fucking A damnit politics.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (JepKJ)

289 Biden: "I like kids better than people. Fortunately, they like me. That's why maybe I like them."

https://bit.ly/3FU55D5

Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (UW2ZS)

290 The neverTrumper clowns weren't mistaken in talking about Biden's competency and decency. They lied.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (vO+yX)

291 "these two panty-wastes"

Waste or Waist? I guess it depends on your perspective.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (KAi1n)

292 i never saw Without a Clue but was always interested.

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (0G13K)

293 Are The Dispatch and The Bulwark competing for a shrinking pile of leftwing donations, and trying to position themselves as the one NeverTrump blog to survive?

Well, let's put it this way. Why would Mona Charen even respond, if not out of concern over losing shrinking donations?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (KZzsI)

294 Biden: "I like kids better than people.


LOL.. Because we all know kids aren't people

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (RLGan)

295 Blame it on Rio has a completely different vibe watching it 35 years after it first came out vs watching it when it first came out. Huh.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (fs1hN)
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Blame it on Rio, mate!

Posted by: Micoh Caine at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (XHhHI)

296 228 I like how the NT pussies continue to talk about "The Cult of Trump" when they're obviously all in The Cult of George W. Bush. They literally think everything he did was great and defend every decision he made.

They're also in the Cult of John McCain, because of course. Liberal tough-guy, tricks conservatives into agreeing with the left, what's not to like?

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (0G13K)

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You left out the Cult of Pierre Delecto, anti-Mormite h8r!

Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (ILUPz)

297 This brunette is fonder of the wind that's blowing up her skirt than she is of anyone at any of the cuck outlets:
https://is.gd/P1WMzM

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (DU+/6)

298 There is nothing vulgar anymore. I think the decline really accelerated with the Bill and Monica story.

Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (Tnijr)

299 I'm sure it's been mentioned, but they don't hate Trump.
They hate you.

Same as the left.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves "Enjoying socialism yet?" at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (jaQXh)

300 Funny how people can think Trump is vulgar nowadays.

"He said 'pussy'" sounds even dumber after those same wine moms declared Cardi B's "Wet Ass Pussy" as "so brave and so stunning".

Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (ZGrMX)

301 What's it all about, Acey!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (UHVv4)

302 And the underwater scenes are more exciting than those in Thunderball.

I always thought of it as an honorary James Bond movie.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (0G13K)

Damning with faint praise?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (kBuGL)

303 The same people who think soft core porn HBO shows are the highest form of art, also think Trump is beyond the pale because he said pussy.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Let's Go Brandon at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (OalnH)

304 The neverTrumper clowns weren't mistaken in talking about Biden's competency and decency. They lied.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (vO+yX)
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Or did some serious wish-casting.

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (XHhHI)

305 Blame it on Rio has a completely different vibe watching it 35 years after it first came out vs watching it when it first came out. Huh.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (fs1hN


I dunno, the bird smuggling plot was always lame. I guess I don't like that style of animation

Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (KbLYZ)

306 Every weekend I wait on hundreds of people from countless households, I'm unvaccinated and maskless.

I like to tell chicks that it's like going in raw.

Being a bad boy in the 2020s is gravy. All you have to do to be an outlaw is just not act like a scared retard.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (7F9te)

307 Dude. Like everybody here voted for McCain and Romney.
Chill.


For me it was more a vote for Palin and then a vote against 0bummer, but yeah.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (SchxB)

308 The Juanita Broderick tweet in the sidebar is hilarious.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (CaxEf)

309 During the dark ages of the Obama years, I really liked NR. I guess I couldn't spot a grifter that talked a good game but would never deliver back then.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (Y5qcH)

310 And the underwater scenes are more exciting than those in Thunderball.

Paint drying is more exciting than the underwater scenes in Thunderball.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (ZGrMX)

311 Yes, NeverTrump(TM) is a pathos but it was also a sentiment.

NeverTrump is nothing more than the sentiment that Chile didn't need a Pinochet, or Spain didn't need a Franco - if Pinochet or Franco were really, really so much nicer than reality.

Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (eBWUj)

312 290 The neverTrumper clowns weren't mistaken in talking about Biden's competency and decency. They lied.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (vO+yX)

Yeah Joe Biden has been in politics forever. He's already long been famous for doing awful things. Hunter Biden being a crackhead wasn't a big secret either.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (z5Vrg)

313 It's like during presidential campaigns and people get bumper stickers like, "Anyone but {Candidate X}." Be careful what you wish for. Did I like Hillary? No. Were there worse options? Undoubtedly. Would I vote for a worse option just to block Hillary? No.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (DU+/6)

> Who was and/or is worse than Hillary?

Posted by: Thesokorus at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (1ais2)

314
Caine did Blame it on Rio which has a smokin' hot chick in it.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (0G13K)


A couple of smokin' hot chicks.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (Fs5vw)

315 289 Biden: "I like kids better than people. Fortunately, they like me. That's why maybe I like them."

https://bit.ly/3FU55D5
Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (UW2ZS)

That is fucking creepy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (kBuGL)

316 The Deep is the one with the sunken ship with a cargo of morphine?
Posted by: steevy

Sounds like a TLC reality show where the addicts search for sunken treasure, which is an amazing idea now that I type it out.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (JepKJ)

317 oh, The Destructors with Michael Caine and James Mason (and Anthony Quinn) is on Amazon Prime

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (0G13K)

318 Funny how people can think Trump is vulgar nowadays.
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Hey, c'mon now. This is a big Fcukin' Deal!

Posted by: Joseph Robinette Biden to a live Audience from the whitehouse podium at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (IRuZ7)

319 303 I never heard that kid of language in the locker room!
Lebron James

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (CYnTg)

320 The same people who think soft core porn HBO shows are the highest form of art, also think Trump is beyond the pale because he said pussy.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Let's Go Brandon at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (OalnH)
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Because it should have cheesed off the evangelicals more than it did.

As if that could swing the tide for Abort-Abort-Abort Clinton.

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (XHhHI)

321 The same people that were marching in hats shaped like vaginas want to insist that we should be mad when someone said pussy.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (jaQXh)

322 >>A couple of smokin' hot chicks.


oh right, Demi Moore

she didn't hold a candle to michelle johnson

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (0G13K)

323 315 289 Biden: "I like kids better than people. Fortunately, they like me. That's why maybe I like them."

They have the same mental capacity as him.. That's why

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (RLGan)

324 Biden: "I like kids better than people.

LOL.. Because we all know kids aren't people

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (RLGan)

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It's because kids are clean and articulate people.

Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (ILUPz)

325 For me to even CONSIDER listening to any of the NeverTrump jackasses like Kristol, Treacher, Nichols, etc, would require at a BARE MINIMUM that they ADMIT THEY WERE WRONG.

Literally not a single one of them is willing to do that. They are still INSISTING that every they did was Totally Principled Conservatism.

Fuck all of them.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (52QgA)

326 Train to Busan is on prime, btw. I noticed this when looking it up before work- when I did not have time to watch it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:56 PM (kBuGL)

327 oh, The Destructors with Michael Caine and James Mason (and Anthony Quinn) is on Amazon Prime
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Hey thanks! Good idea. *starts checking for boobs*

Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 03:56 PM (NZYC4)

328 So nobody is going to admit to watching "X, Y, [ampersand] Z"?

Posted by: mrp at October 15, 2021 03:56 PM (Pqytn)

329 310 And the underwater scenes are more exciting than those in Thunderball.

Paint drying is more exciting than the underwater scenes in Thunderball.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (ZGrMX)

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*fistbump*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:56 PM (LvTSG)

330 289 Biden: "I like kids better than people. Fortunately, they like me. That's why maybe I like them."

Please tell me he didn't say that in his aggressive whisper or with his creepy grin.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:56 PM (fs1hN)

331 Be careful what you wish for. Did I like Hillary? No. Were there worse options? Undoubtedly. Would I vote for a worse option just to block Hillary? No.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (DU+/6)
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Did the same people vote for Biden to stop Trump?

Then they're fools by their own stated goals.

Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (XHhHI)

332 Now we have have the country chanting fk Joe Biden.
Vulgarity is an anachronism.

Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (Tnijr)

333 Would I vote for a worse option just to block Hillary? No.

Congrats, Joe. You've just laid down the recipe for servitude.

According to your logic, the Founders should have just paid their taxes.

Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (eBWUj)

334 Serious question: Is there any proof that Biden likes black kids?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (jaQXh)

335 I think they've remade more Michael Caine movies than anything else a single actor has been in. Maybe John Wayne?

And the remakes uniformly suck

By the way, the girl in Blame It On Rio was Michelle Johnson, Demi played Caine's daughter.

Its kind of a creepy movie, with teeny Michelle crushing hard on Michael Caine in his 40s or 50s. But she's not a predator, its just a schoolgirl crush that she goes way too far with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (KZzsI)

336 half

Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (Tnijr)

337 I always felt horrible voting for McCain. I had to get drunk to do it. I felt a little better voting for Romney, but he sure fixed that.

Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (cTqLg)

338 Your friend punctuation retired?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (vuisn)

339 Biden: "I like kids better than people.

LOL.. Because we all know kids aren't people

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (RLGan)

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It's because kids are clean and articulate people.
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and who can't really fight back when you molest 'em.

Posted by: Joseph Robinette Biden being real man, real, get it at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (AYreR)

340 Reminds me of the sex scene in Bad Teacher. The scene where they sorta had sex with their clothes on.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (IMmgC)

341 Get Carter and Zulu are two outstanding early Michael Caine flicks.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (WROfJ)

342 There are two reasons 'rons like The Deep, and they have nothing to do with the underwater action scenes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (KZzsI)

343 338 Your friend punctuation retired?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (vuisn)

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"Retired"

He punched a student. It's been hush, hush, but Punctuation was just too exclamatory.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (LvTSG)

344 michael caine was good as the gay man married to Maggie Smith in some Neil Simon anthology movie, not California Suite, the other multiple-story Neil Simon movie

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (0G13K)

345 I watched a 70's crime movie yesterday with Anthony Quinn and Yaphet Kotto. Across 110th Street

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (CYnTg)

346 The girl tending bar has an identical twin who is here. Even their backsides are identical.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (vO+yX)

347 >>>Dude. Like everybody here voted for McCain and Romney.
Chill.

I didn't vote in 2012. I won't vote for people like Romney who throw the game as Republicans and vote just like Progressives. I voted against Obama in 2008 and voted for Palin.
Nibbas have to earn my vote...

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (JepKJ)

348 296 228 I like how the NT pussies continue to talk about "The Cult of Trump" when they're obviously all in The Cult of George W. Bush. They literally think everything he did was great and defend every decision he made.

***

Remember when W ran for office on privatizing social security?

Then a few years later with a Republican House and Senate we ended up with Medicare part D?

That's all you need to know about the Republican party.



Posted by: Azathoth at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (fkgvR)

349 C'mon; who wouldn't pay to see Jonah vs. 'Tater in the octagon? 2 pastey Pillsbury doughboys in long long shorts with guinea t's, Copper-fit knee sleeves; theme from Rocky playing as they both pull into Golden Corral...

Posted by: pahound at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (Crpt7)

350 Ipcress File is really good early Caine

Posted by: Thesokorus at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (1ais2)

351 >>>Its kind of a creepy movie, with teeny Michelle crushing hard on Michael Caine in his 40s or 50s. But she's not a predator, its just a schoolgirl crush that she goes way too far with.


Inspiring!

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:59 PM (0G13K)

352 here are two reasons 'rons like The Deep, and they have nothing to do with the underwater action scenes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (KZzsI)

I disagree.
There was a lot of "action" in that wet tee shirt

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:59 PM (mR6Gs)

353 hmmmmm.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 15, 2021 03:59 PM (r1z5A)

354 Congrats, Joe. You've just laid down the recipe for servitude.

According to your logic, the Founders should have just paid their taxes.
Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (eBWUj)
++++
No. I didn't say I would vote *for* Hillary. I wouldn't. But if I thought the Republican was a worse candidate, I would sit it out. I wouldn't shill for her. I also wouldn't vote for someone worse than her just to prevent her from getting it - and that's exactly what these people did to Trump twice, once with Hillary and then again with Biden.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:59 PM (DU+/6)

355 The weird thing with Blame it on Rio was that Demi Moore was technically topless but she did the Brooke Shields "hide everything with long hair" trick the whole time and Michelle Johnson was nude as a newborn half the time. Then Michelle Johnson went on to do few nude scenes and Demi was naked as often as she could be in movies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:59 PM (KZzsI)

356 Serious question: Is there any proof that Biden likes black kids?

To sniff or as an entree?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (SchxB)

357
How about early Keanu with River's Edge?
Now that was a creepy depressing movie.

Or 80's crap with Mosquito Coast?

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (JI/0U)

358 Yeah i can see how this plays out.

Bulwark Staff: "We're going to make you suck our dicks dispatch!"

Dispatch Staff: "No we're going to make you suck our dicks!"

Both call a truce and spend the night blowing each other.

Can these guys please decide to have a rumble on a sinking freighter. Better yet they can all get together, along with all the tough guy leftist, and David Reaboi can just kick all thier asses at once.

Posted by: Rbastid at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (Wx49j)

359 Yes Ipcress File. He is kind of a sleazy thug who starts working for British intel

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (CYnTg)

360 "So I have no actual animus towards NeverTrump voters. If Trump was too toxic for you to vote for -- I get that. I wondered about that my own self."

Quite magnanimous. I find the individual NeverTrump voters even more loathsome than the transparent grifters and "thought" leaders in the Never Trump movement, who at least have the excuse of greed and running a con rather than profound mental retardation. I wouldn't piss on a Never Trump voter who was afire.

"It's incredible to me that "thought leaders" at places like National Review, who were too cowardly to actually endorse Hillary and F. Joe Biden but left readers with little doubt as to who they wanted to win, are now back, presenting themselves to conservatives, and announcing "We are willing and ready to Lead You Lesser Intellects again.""

Jim and Tammy Faye Baker had better comeback prospects. If mass hypnosis even were possible, National Review would not have a snowball's chance in hell of future legitimacy. But...

The review of Nichols' pamphlet/screed was awesome.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (nMx88)

361 Neocons fighting each other is a beautiful thing. Their Trotskyite origins make it inevitable.

Posted by: WiNO - Now Fortified with Fraud at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (EpDzw)

362 Best Michael Cain movie is "A Bridge Too Far".

Don't "fight me, bro". I don't care about your opinion. That is wrong.

Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (eBWUj)

363
I didn't know about that Michelle Johnson actress. She's hot.

But, I can't get over the name. One of the single most horrible people I've ever had the displeasure of knowing is named that.

Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (cTqLg)

364 Trump is a white trash southern democrat populist. Which may be good or bad. He is not a economic libertarian free trade conservative like the neo-cons and never trumpers. Thanks to nixon and reagan most republican voters are populists william f buckley conservatives.
Posted by: carley at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (727nS)


Point of order, Neo-Cons are not libertarians, they are statists who only difference is they want to be able to call themselves conservatives and make money and status off of using the military.

Second point of order, your comment that Bill Buckley is a populist is akin to saying that Joseph Stalin liked small businesses. Buckley thought "the people" stunk on ice and spent his career stomping out their influence while berating them for their opinions on politics.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (KbLYZ)

365 Also 110th song is gooded.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (IMmgC)

366 -
C'mon; who wouldn't pay to see Jonah vs. 'Tater in the octagon? 2 pastey Pillsbury doughboys in long long shorts with guinea t's, Copper-fit knee sleeves; theme from Rocky playing as they both pull into Golden Corral...

Posted by: pahound at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM -
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Four moobs enter...

Posted by: irright at October 15, 2021 04:01 PM (SchQD)

367 I think they've remade more Michael Caine movies than anything else a single actor has been in. Maybe John Wayne?

And the remakes uniformly suck


I liked the remake of True Grit.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 04:01 PM (UW2ZS)

368 I watched the Dirk Benedict movie "Ruckus" last week. It was one of those movies I remember seeing back when we first got HBO nearly 40 years ago. Came out two years before First Blood and has a similar plot.

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 15, 2021 04:01 PM (xPl2J)

369 Serious question: Is there any proof that Biden likes black kids?

To sniff or as an entree?

**

Sexually, same as white kids.

I know there's video of him taking his mask off when he's around white people and putting it on whenever brown people get close, but I'm wondering if there's any evidence of him showing That Biden Attention to any black girls and boys.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves at October 15, 2021 04:01 PM (jaQXh)

370 A Bridge Too Far has an amazing cast. Man there were so many good actors.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 04:01 PM (CYnTg)

371 321 The same people that were marching in hats shaped like vaginas want to insist that we should be mad when someone said pussy.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (jaQXh)

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Same "logic" as "Only a birthing person can have an opinion on abortion! My pussy, my choice!"

Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 15, 2021 04:01 PM (ILUPz)

372 But, I can't get over the name. One of the single most horrible people I've ever had the displeasure of knowing is named that.
Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (cTqLg)

So how ya' been

Posted by: Michelle Johnson at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (RLGan)

373 I voted for Mcstain and Mittens because I will never vote dim nor throw away my vote on third party types...maybe the gope depends on folks like me.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (r1z5A)

374 How about early Keanu with River's Edge?
Now that was a creepy depressing movie.


Yeah. Very depressing and sad, but really well done. And, this will shock you, but Crispin Glover plays a really weird, scary, crazy guy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (KZzsI)

375
Well, as long as Republican Congressional leadership reads them, I'd say they probably still have influence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (LvTSG)

North of 90 percent of elected Republicans still find National Review edgy and relevant, which explains the condition of today's GOP.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (nMx88)

376 Your friend punctuation retired?
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He shot ate and left.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (UHVv4)

377 True Grit remake is fine. Not necessary but fine.

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (CYnTg)

378 He had to help his uncle.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (jaQXh)

379 C'mon; who wouldn't pay to see Jonah vs. 'Tater in the octagon?
==
Look the thing you are imagining in your head, both of the beating the crap out of each other, won't happen. In reality it ends up in tears and sweaty hugs, and finally a "grinding/shuddering" acknowledgement that heterosexuality just was never their thing.

Posted by: just sayin at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (NZYC4)

380 No. I didn't say I would vote *for* Hillary. I wouldn't. But if I thought the Republican was a worse candidate, I would sit it out.

So you're not a guy that would ever "gum up the works". Got it.

Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (oMc1W)

381 Well, as long as Republican Congressional leadership reads them, I'd say they probably still have influence.

Another clueless bunch.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (fs1hN)

382 @TrumpJew2
"Chansgender individuals"

https://tinyurl.com/yds2n475

@TrumpJew2 17m
Who told him to shout like this?

https://tinyurl.com/ydrt9jb6

@TrumpJew2
Biden panics about forgetting his mask, puts it on, takes it off, then puts it on again
https://tinyurl.com/yjxmhsxs

Posted by: Tami at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (cF8AT)

383 Huh. I just noticed that quotation marks screwed up my name field.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves saying Enjoying socialism yet? at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (jaQXh)

384 Black kids smell different
Joe Biden

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (CYnTg)

385 I liked the remake of True Grit.

So did I but I was referring to the Michael Caine remakes. Get Carter with Sly Stallone was terrible.

The movie version of A Bridged Too Far was actually better than the book, for me at least. That's really rare.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (KZzsI)

386 @TrumpJew2
Biden panics about forgetting his mask, puts it on, takes it off, then puts it on again
https://tinyurl.com/yjxmhsxs

***

Count how many times he touches his mouth in that clip.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves saying Enjoying socialism yet? at October 15, 2021 04:04 PM (jaQXh)

387 C'mon; who wouldn't pay to see Jonah vs. 'Tater in the octagon? 2 pastey Pillsbury doughboys in long long shorts with guinea t's, Copper-fit knee sleeves; theme from Rocky playing as they both pull into Golden Corral...

Posted by: pahound at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM -


I picture it as the "Star Wars Kid" versus himself.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 15, 2021 04:04 PM (vuisn)

388 True Grit remake is fine. Not necessary but fine.

I agree. They did a great job, and they brought out parts of the book that the other missed but... why? Did not need remaking.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 04:04 PM (KZzsI)

389 I confess I like the remake of The Italian Job.

**Flees**

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 15, 2021 04:04 PM (dfRN6)

390
Second point of order, your comment that Bill Buckley is a populist is akin to saying that Joseph Stalin liked small businesses. Buckley thought "the people" stunk on ice and spent his career stomping out their influence while berating them for their opinions on politics.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (KbLYZ)

I would rather be governed by the first 2,000 people in the telephone directory, he said, than by the Harvard University faculty.

Not really a populist or anti-populist. Definitely anti-technocrat though. Didn't believe in blank slate equalism or a state that ran people's lives.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (z5Vrg)

391 They never finished making " Abridged Too Far".

Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (Tnijr)

392 >>Look the thing you are imagining in your head, both of the beating the crap out of each other, won't happen. In reality it ends up in tears and sweaty hugs, and finally a "grinding/shuddering" acknowledgement that heterosexuality just was never their thing.



Slapfest.
Like two girls who wave their arms but also cringe and lean away at the thought of making contact.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (bDqIh)

393
The weird thing about that lady is her husband. She's this morally bankrupt, redolent pile of human filth, and he was just the nicest guy you could ever meet. I was always just like "what the hell happened here, man?"

Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (cTqLg)

394
btw, I hear they're making a new show (or movie) for macauley culking to reprise his role in Home Alone...all grown up.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (JI/0U)

395 The Bulwark Vs. The Dispatch: The Ruckus In the Cuckhouse
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These hairless and empty ball sacks, fairly and correctly described in this post, are the parasite wing of the UniParty. If they weren't """intellectuals""" they would been part the of cabal in the Federal government that was involved with trying to overthrow the Trump presidency and once that failed are now spending their days plotting how to round citizens as """"domestic terrorists"""".

Posted by: LostInSpace at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (ESLBo)

396 River's Edge also had Ione Skye who was so pretty but always had this detatched feeling like she didn't really like acting and was just kind of showing up on set and going through the motions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (KZzsI)

397 Everyone can relax about the high cost of everything and the lack of stuff in the stores.

Biden has reminded everyone today that he was once poor too while serving his first 36 years in elected office.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (fkgvR)

398 How come the secret service didn't lend him their mask! I thought they were sworn to protect his life at all costs.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (fs1hN)

399 btw, I hear they're making a new show (or movie) for macauley culking to reprise his role in Home Alone...all grown up.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (JI/0U)

He's truly strange

Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (RLGan)

400 C'mon; who wouldn't pay to see Jonah vs. 'Tater in the octagon? 2 pastey Pillsbury doughboys in long long shorts with guinea t's, Copper-fit knee sleeves; theme from Rocky playing as they both pull into Golden Corral...

Posted by: pahound at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM

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It could be billed as "Jonah and The Whale."

Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (ILUPz)

401 Michael Caine is always worth watching and listening to. His "warlock father" in Bewitched with Nicole Kidman was great, including his scenes with Shirley Maclaine as the actress playing Endora in the TV series-within-the-movie.

Caine and Shirley did a caper movie in the Sixties called Gambit. I need to see if I can find it on YooToob; I haven't seen it since it was new.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (/XOcP)

402 @TrumpJew2
Biden whispers into the mic again

https://tinyurl.com/ygdryolc

@TrumpJew2
This kid is terrified of Biden

https://tinyurl.com/ydqx9fd6

Posted by: Tami at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (cF8AT)

403 I agree. They did a great job, and they brought out parts of the book that the other missed but... why? Did not need remaking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Same reason they remade a "New Hope". (makes cash register sound...yeah, I'm that old.)

Posted by: Some Rat at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (r1z5A)

404 I voted for McVain because Barky was a rat bastard. Turns out they both were.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (OssB6)

405 394
btw, I hear they're making a new show (or movie) for macauley culking to reprise his role in Home Alone...all grown up.

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (JI/0U)

Reminds me one of my kids went to see the Jonas Brothers in concert last week. Apparently, they're doing legit, quality music these days.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (dfRN6)

406 396 She came out as a lesbian didn't? At one time married to one of the Beastie Boys too I think...

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (CYnTg)

407 Fwiw (not much) I clued into the GOP scam when Colin Powell (spit) who I instantly detested said about MENA: "you broke it, you bought it". I began screaming internally and never really stopped. Took me years though to realize the extent of the fake and gayness of the GOP.

Posted by: Thesokorus at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (1ais2)

408 >>I confess I like the remake of The Italian Job.


Seth Green doing the voice over while watching Jason Statham talk up some hottie, lol.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2021 04:07 PM (bDqIh)

409 I confess I like the remake of The Italian Job.

Of the remakes, its no worse than the original in my mind, but I never thought that was a very good movie anyway. Way too weird 60s stylized.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 04:07 PM (KZzsI)

410 392 >>Look the thing you are imagining in your head, both of the beating the crap out of each other, won't happen. In reality it ends up in tears and sweaty hugs, and finally a "grinding/shuddering" acknowledgement that heterosexuality just was never their thing.

**

Which oddly enough was the theme of their wedding nights.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 15, 2021 04:07 PM (fkgvR)

411

nOOd

Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 04:08 PM (JI/0U)

412 >> She came out as a lesbian didn't? At one time married to one of the Beastie Boys too I think...

Yes to the 1st marriage, no to the lesbian. She married an Aussi singer, Ben something.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2021 04:08 PM (bDqIh)

413 someone used to do this bit where he'd go

the key
to sounding
like mich'al caine
is to only say
two syllables
at a time

Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 04:08 PM (0G13K)

414 True Grit remake is fine. Not necessary but fine.

I agree. They did a great job, and they brought out parts of the book that the other missed but... why? Did not need remaking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021


***
A decent job it was. But the lack of color, actual on-screen color I mean, ruined it for me. Compare it to the JW 1969 version, and the former just bursts out at you, while the new version is cold and dreary. The contrast encapsulates the difference between movies now and those of 50-60 years back: H'wood has forgotten color.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 15, 2021 04:09 PM (/XOcP)

415 To whoever was conspiricizn about the ships backed up in Californistan: In the mail today I got a catalog from Amazon full of gifts for kids. Has Amazon always been putting out catalogs? It's new to me.

Posted by: irright at October 15, 2021 04:09 PM (SchQD)

416 Okay. Got Blame It On Rio in the que. I'll watch it later when it's dark and no one is around.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 15, 2021 04:09 PM (Fs5vw)

417 397 Everyone can relax about the high cost of everything and the lack of stuff in the stores. Biden has reminded everyone today that he was once poor too while serving his first 36 years in elected office. Posted by: Azathoth

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The stores are not empty. Rather, they are full of Biden. Next up will be fully stocked propaganda stores that will ban """domestic terrorists""" from entering.

Posted by: LostInSpace at October 15, 2021 04:10 PM (ESLBo)

418 I think I just "invented" an "imagination-wig". I can't stop picturing it in my head!

Posted by: pahound at October 15, 2021 04:10 PM (Crpt7)

419 True Grit remake is fine. Not necessary but fine.
==
This is pretty true. I mean, it could have been a complete mess, but Bridges did a very fine job. It wasn't necessary to redo it. But, they didn't degrade the original unlike most remakes.

Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 04:12 PM (IRuZ7)

420 412 Oh, it is some other 80's hottie that came out lesbian. Daphne Zuniga?

Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 04:14 PM (CYnTg)

421 A Bridge Too Far has an amazing cast. Man there were so many good actors.

Hannibal Lecter led the First British into Arnhem. Moses Pray sends Johnny Hooker on a daylight bridge assault. James Bond is kinda' in charge, and kinda' not. Captain Ramsey leads the Polish Brigade - but he thinks the plan sucks. Mack and Hamm and a bunch more cartoons would like to know if they have more information about those boats.

Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 04:14 PM (eBWUj)

422 389 I confess I like the remake of The Italian Job.

**Flees**
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 15, 2021 04:04 PM (dfRN6)

Charlize Theron is acceptable

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 15, 2021 04:15 PM (BgMrQ)

423 When I say "The Build Back Better is 3 baskets - it's Climate ... Health, Jobs, Security, and Moral Responsibility" people complain I'm referencing 5.

I point out that if The Smart Military Blog eschews math, I can, too.

Posted by: Nancy Pelousi at October 15, 2021 04:19 PM (a3Q+t)

424 Yesterday, protestors - People v. Fossil Fuel - flooded inside the Interior Department in D. C. Some even got in shoving matches with police who then used Tasers. I guess that was just good, clean unauthorized protesting?

Oh, and Brandon plagiarized Build Back Better, too. The UN, WEF, and even Slick Willie used the term way before.

Posted by: Lola at October 15, 2021 04:58 PM (VQp1G)

425 In 2016 I didn't trust Trump. I didn't think he was a serious candidate who would be a conservative.
I voted for Egg McMuffin (which I regret).

In 2020? Trump had 4 years; and they were not terrible years. Yeah, I voted for Trump in 2020.

Posted by: ertdfg at October 16, 2021 12:46 PM (I388C)

426 I got an email from Rich Lowry awhile back, all chatty and stuff, wanting to know what we can all do to fix conservatism and the GOP. I told him that we can get rid of a-holes like you, Rich.

Posted by: FatAlbert at October 17, 2021 12:11 AM (KWbVO)

427 Tom Nichols is apparently the best example of the quality of US expertise that drove W.M.Buckley to observe that we would be better off being governed by the first 536 names in a phone book. He's have been correct, except that the phone book should be for an area code in flyover country, and not the coasts.

Mr. Nichol's real lament is that he rightly perceives that both sides of the political spectrum think he's full of crap.

Posted by: B Dubya at October 17, 2021 09:40 AM (aLpqZ)

428 So what you're saying is "the cuck stops here."

Posted by: C Moss at October 18, 2021 07:33 AM (91ZPR)

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