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"Case Breakers" Group Claims It's Identified the Zodiac Killer, and Linked Him to a Sixth Murder

Just in time, huh?

Just kidding. But the man they claim was the Zodiac died in 2018.

It wasn't the guy the David Fincher movie depicted as the killer.


A cold-case task force claims it has identified the notorious Zodiac Killer, who terrorized Northern California in the late 1960s and taunted authorities with cryptic notes.

Investigators with the Case Breakers told Fox News that the group -- led by former FBI agents and retired law enforcement officials -- has identified the infamous killer as Gary Francis Poste, who died in 2018.

They also tied the infamous serial killer to a sixth murder in Southern California.

I gotta tell you, the evidence they present is very weak. One claim is:

In one [of the Zodiac's notes to the media], the letters of Poste's full name were removed to reveal an alternate message, a Case Breakers investigator told Fox News.

I don't know what the specifics are but I have read about amateur codebreakers -- including Graysmith, the cartoonist from the movie -- who would invent "codebreaking rules" to break Zodiac's codes. These rules were nonce rules -- not really "rules" at all, just them making up whatever rule was needed to "solve" the cipher.

"Take out all the H's and add three G's." And this would produce a message, which they would claim was the solution to the cipher.

But they weren't. At all. It was just people making up random steps to make a message out of a jumble of letters. They themselves were writing the message by choosing this random rule and now this new random rule to impose a false order on the ciphers.

I can't say exactly what happened here, but the notion that by removing the letters of this guy's full name you get an "alternate message" sounds like it could be more of this sort of writing-you-own-message messugas.

Here are two other offers of evidence:


A wristwatch with paint splatter thought to have been worn by the killer was recovered at the scene of Bates' murder -- and Poste had painted homes for more than four decades, according to the cold-case squad.

In addition, a heel print from a military-style boot at the murder scene matched his and others found at the Zodiac crime scenes, Fox News reported.

By the way, that watch left at the murder scene? That was found at the scene of the Bates murder, the one they're claiming is the sixth Zodiac killing.

In other words, they're claiming the Zodiac committed a crime no one has confirmed he committed (and which the Zodiac did not claim as his own), and then they use a piece of evidence from that scene to claim this Poste guy was the Zodiac.

The picture of this guy (at the link) does resemble the eyewitness sketches of Zodiac, but... the sketches of Zodiac show what I would call "a normal looking guy." So a lot of people are going to match those sketches.

Related: a serial killer has been identified in France, and it turns out it was a cop.

A former French military cop confessed in his suicide note that he was the sinister serial killer behind several rapes and murders dating back to the 1980s, reports said.

Francois Verove, 59, admitted he was "Le Grele'" or "The Pockmarked Man" as police closed in on him for crimes including the rape and murder of an 11-year-old in 1986, the French-language paper Le Parisien reported.

Verove killed himself Wednesday in the town of Grau-du-Roi with a fatal dose of medication after he had ducked a DNA test that could've linked him to the long-unsolved crimes, Le Parisien said.

...

"The Pockmarked Man" is believed to be behind the 1986 rape and murder of 11-year-old Cecile Bloch in Fountainebleau, according to the BBC. The girl's body was found stabbed to death in the basement of the apartment building where her family lived, the report said.

...


DNA linked "The Pockmarked Man" to other crimes, such as a 1987 double murder, the 1994 murder of 19-year old Karine Leroy and six rapes with victims as young as 11 years old, reports said.

Horrible.

On September 30, a British cop was sentenced to life in prison for the murder of Sarah Everard.

He falsely claimed she was breaking covid curfew and arrested her. Then he drove her to a remote location, raped her, murdered her, and burned her body.

Feminists in Britain are claiming that this is somehow the fault of "The Patriarchy," as if men were protecting this guy.

It is true that women who worked with this guy gave him the nickname "The Rapist" because he gave off an evil, weird vibe and made them uncomfortable. And yes, that vibe was correct in this case.

And I'd say, as a general matter, that I do trust the feelings of people as regards this kind of thing.

But this sort of "vibe," while it should be trusted on a personal level, cannot be given the status of legal proof by a government. Are feminists really claiming that if a weird-seeming guy gives women the creeps, he should be fired? Or thrown in jail?

As "pre-crime," as Sargon calls it?

Again, I do believe that people's unconscious minds really do pick up on signals and vibes. But... you can't throw a guy who never committed a crime in jail because of that. Or are they really arguing that Feminine Intuition is now legal evidence?

This also seems to be avoiding a much more salient issue: When the government has the power to surveil you and interfere with your personal actions and movements at such an intimate scale, and sends out its law enforcement (and in Australia, its military) to harass and arrest citizens for merely moving around their neighborhoods -- you are creating the perfect hunting ground for psychopaths who have embedded themselves into the police.

But no, let's just talk about Muh Patriarchy.


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1 Roomy.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at October 08, 2021 01:53 PM (HeKhk)

2 Just kidding. But the man they claim was the Zodiac died in 2018.

It wasn't the guy the David Fincher movie depicted as the killer


Has anyone confirmed the whereabouts of Hillary when these crimes were committed? Just asking questions.

Posted by: pep at October 08, 2021 01:53 PM (ZsR3z)

3 This is all a front to keep Ted Cruz from being brought to justice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 08, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

4 Thank God It's Farzrohrday.

Posted by: f'd at October 08, 2021 01:54 PM (Tnijr)

5 Are they still looking for DB Cooper?

Posted by: f'd at October 08, 2021 01:55 PM (Tnijr)

6 Welcome to the court of public opinion, where the evidence is made up and the truth doesn't matter.

Posted by: Flyguy at October 08, 2021 01:56 PM (3sOO0)

7 Cause I haven't seen him.

Posted by: f'd at October 08, 2021 01:57 PM (Tnijr)

8 " ...where the evidence is made up and the truth doesn't matter.
Posted by: Flyguy at October 08, 2021 01:56 PM

We've been living in that world for at least 10 years.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at October 08, 2021 01:58 PM (HeKhk)

9 Is it only Tuesday?

Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2021 01:58 PM (8k/pR)

10 Poste must have been a Trump voter, that's why the FBI went after him.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 08, 2021 01:59 PM (v9pBv)

11 Has anyone confirmed the whereabouts of Hillary when these crimes were committed? Just asking questions.
Posted by: pep at October 08, 2021 01:53 PM (ZsR3z)

Her sign is Crapricorn.

Posted by: Kamala Harris at October 08, 2021 02:00 PM (6FeV1)

12 Is it only Tuesday?
Posted by: garrett

Afternoon.

Posted by: Justin Haywired at October 08, 2021 02:00 PM (Tnijr)

13 Whore sock, off.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 08, 2021 02:00 PM (6FeV1)

14 I usually take these cold case solving mystery with a case of salt

Posted by: Skip at October 08, 2021 02:00 PM (2JoB8)

15 BREAKING CASE BREAKERS NEWS : Gary Francis Poste has been determined to have been born in one of the months of the year and therefore in possession of a Zodiac sign.

#CaseClosed

Posted by: Case Breakers at October 08, 2021 02:00 PM (qbLRU)

16 >>Afternoon.


Well, that explains the Genlte Voices I am hearing.

Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2021 02:01 PM (8k/pR)

17 where the evidence is made up and the truth doesn't matter.
Posted by: Flyguy at October 08, 2021 01:56 PM

We've been living in that world for at least 10 years.
Posted by: one of the quiet ones at October 08, 2021 01:58 PM (HeKhk)

I liked the Canadian version of "Whose Lie Is It, Anyway?" better.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 08, 2021 02:01 PM (6FeV1)

18 If I were looking for homosexual serial killers I'd start with The Lincoln Project first.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 08, 2021 02:01 PM (J7wri)

19 Cause I haven't seen him.
Posted by: f'd

But She's not there.
-- The Zombies https://youtu.be/it68QbUWVPM

Posted by: Tonypete at October 08, 2021 02:02 PM (e1mwr)

20 >>I usually take these cold case solving mystery with a case of salt


If there aren't at least 2 psychics involved, I remain skeptical.

Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2021 02:02 PM (8k/pR)

21 Oh, great, Feminists are going to weaponize Gavin de Becker's "The Gift of Fear." Like they haven't ruined enough already. Yes, that vibe is likely your unconscious picking up some cues, but let's not turn this into pre-crime.

Posted by: Lizzy/i] at October 08, 2021 02:02 PM (bDqIh)

22
Quasi-willpower

Ideal company job vacancy qualifications:

2021 graduate with 3-5 years experience.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2021 02:02 PM (/U27+)

23

The FBI. Yeah, all Andrew McCarthys...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 08, 2021 02:02 PM (s2VJv)

24 I will say the Zodiac movie was pretty well done. The ca. 1970 cars not only fitted the period, they looked used, like everyday commuter cars, not like garage queens. Clothes were spot on. And in one scene Jake Gyllenhaal is wearing a watch on an expanding Romunda band. I can't tell you how many of those I bought for my various Timexes in the '70s.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:02 PM (/XOcP)

25 Those same UK feminists have helped enable thousands upon thousands of rapes with their bleeding-heart lefty bullshit.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at October 08, 2021 02:02 PM (+lwg5)

26 I just solved a big case with my code breaking genius. By substituting code letters I have identified JackStraw as Jack the Ripper. It takes the simple substitution of the letters S-t-r-a-w with t-h-e-r-i-p-p-e-r and voila!

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:02 PM (/uaBM)

27
Willowed. I mean, damn!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2021 02:02 PM (/U27+)

28 This is all a front to keep Ted Cruz from being brought to justice.

Ted Cruz made some funny Twitter posts about this news and of course libs screeched that he was showing no respect for the victims. That's some weak sauce.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 08, 2021 02:03 PM (ZGrMX)

29 If I were looking for homosexual serial killers I'd start with The Lincoln Project first.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 08, 2021 02:01 PM (J7wri)

The bones in their closet ain't just skeletons.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 08, 2021 02:03 PM (6FeV1)

30 26 I just solved a big case with my code breaking genius. By substituting code letters I have identified JackStraw as Jack the Ripper. It takes the simple substitution of the letters S-t-r-a-w with t-h-e-r-i-p-p-e-r and voila!
Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:02 PM (/uaBM)


REMEMBER TO KILL OVULATING TEENS...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 08, 2021 02:03 PM (s2VJv)

31 The Zodiac killer wore shoes, Gary Francis Poste wore shoes. Coincidence?

Posted by: Case Breakers at October 08, 2021 02:03 PM (qbLRU)

32 >>I just solved a big case with my code breaking genius. By substituting code letters I have identified JackStraw as Jack the Ripper


You add a 'Bong' in there and I think you are onto something!

Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2021 02:03 PM (8k/pR)

33 >>I usually take these cold case solving mystery with a case of salt


If there aren't at least 2 psychics involved, I remain skeptical.
Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2021 02:02 PM (8k/pR)

Someone have the Stupendous Yappi's number?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at October 08, 2021 02:04 PM (xPJvm)

34 Do Hillary's emails next.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at October 08, 2021 02:04 PM (LRtsD)

35 I used the code on Hamlet and it turns out Gary Francis Poste was the true author of the Shakespeare plays.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 08, 2021 02:04 PM (d9FiS)

36 Laundrie and his family did an excellent job of misdirecting the investigation, making them wade thru Florida swamps, while Laundrie easily fled to [pick one non-Florida] Thailand.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at October 08, 2021 02:04 PM (qpX6U)

37 is it ...CED TRUZ?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (YZG/i) at October 08, 2021 02:05 PM (YZG/i)

38 >>Those same UK feminists have helped enable thousands upon thousands of rapes with their bleeding-heart lefty bullshit.


Yup. Promote the mass acceptance of violent refugees, turn a blind eye as they rape, sorry "groom," girls for decades, but that's not the hill to die on. That would be racist. Instead, let's focus on creepy policemen.

*massive eye roll*

Posted by: Lizzy/i] at October 08, 2021 02:05 PM (bDqIh)

39 Feminists in Britain are claiming that this is somehow the fault of "The Patriarchy," as if men were protecting this guy
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Class warfare. This is a story that literally everyone could agree on, unite over, cry over, pray over. But all that shit is like a crucifix to the commies so they have to find an angle that promotes incivility and arguments. And then the media amplifies it. Rinse, repeat, repeat.

Posted by: ... at October 08, 2021 02:05 PM (UeAus)

40 Do casebreakers have a book for sale or something?

Seems pretty dubious.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 08, 2021 02:05 PM (QU5/8)

41 35 I used the code on Hamlet and it turns out Gary Francis Poste was the true author of the Shakespeare plays.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 08, 2021 02:04 PM (d9FiS)

I used the code on the Handmaid's Tale and all i got was ovarian cancer.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 08, 2021 02:05 PM (6FeV1)

42 Yeah, this whole "we identified the Zodiac from matching wrinkles in his photo to wrinkles drawn on a suspect portrait" is utter bullshit. They'd better have more evidence than that.

As far as Cheri Jo Bates - there's a lot of sketchiness over that case. Zodiac never claimed credit for it, the Riverside police have always maintained they have a suspect but never had enough evidence against him, and the supposed Zodiac "letter" carved on a desktop might have been a forgery by someone else.

The only Zodiac-like connection was the letter sent to Bates' father shortly after she was killed, reading BATES HAD TO DIE, but the author was never traced.

(part 1)

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 08, 2021 02:06 PM (2JVJo)

43 Zodiac was a really good movie. It even made Mark Ruffalo appealing.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at October 08, 2021 02:06 PM (O6DoG)

44 When everyone learns to code, there will be no more crime.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:07 PM (/uaBM)

45
The Zodiac Killer was a heterosexual white male who exclusively targeted minorities, owned guns, and did not trust the Federal Government. As are all serial killers. Law enforcement needs additional tools to confront this scourge.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 08, 2021 02:07 PM (+VPD5)

46 There's a middle ground between arresting somebody creepy for "pre crime" and just letting them do WTF they please.

If the cops had reason to suspect that Sarah Everard's killer was potentially dangerous -- and apparently they did because he had a dozen misconduct allegations against him before he kidnapped and raped and murdered her -- then they should have booted his ass off the police force. Or better yet, never hired the lunatic in the first place.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:07 PM (k4dH2)

47 Are they still looking for DB Cooper?
Posted by: f'd at October 08, 2021 01:55 PM (Tnijr)

I'm the Lindberg baby. Homer is DB Cooper.

Posted by: Grandpaw Simpson at October 08, 2021 02:07 PM (IJES/)

48 Nobody can top Tony Curtis as the Boston Strangler. Who knew stranglers in Boston spoke with a Brooklyn accent?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 08, 2021 02:08 PM (J7wri)

49
They broke the code using the Voynich manuscript.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2021 02:08 PM (/U27+)

50 "When everyone learns to code, there will be no more crime."

In 'New Jack City,' the thugs were hiring Pascal programmers.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at October 08, 2021 02:08 PM (qpX6U)

51 When everyone learns to code, there will be no more crime.
Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:07 PM (/uaBM)

Poorly formatted style sheets ARE a crime.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 08, 2021 02:08 PM (6FeV1)

52 Verove killed himself Wednesday in the town of Grau-du-Roi with a fatal dose of medication after he had ducked a DNA test that could've linked him to the long-unsolved crimes, Le Parisien said.

And here I thought every good criminal lawyer knew that DNA tests are exculpatory, not incriminating.

Only Hollywood and the retards who believe everything they see on Tee Vee would feel that DNA tests pin point the perp.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 08, 2021 02:08 PM (+LCoQ)

53 The Zodiac story would have made a great detective tale. In 1949 or so, the Ellery Queen cousins published Cat of Many Tails, a then-unusual story of a serial killer murdering people, seemingly at random, in Manhattan. Women, men, all walks of life, all ages. That was part of the scariness of it, that the Cat seemed to have no preferences; he could pick off *anybody.* It's a creepy story, very well done, no gore (the victims are all strangled, no eviscerations or skin suits). The "Son of Sam" case in 1978 reminded me of their story too.

If the Zodiac case had happened in 1952, or even in '62, they could have based a novel on it. I can see Ellery trying to puzzle out the messages.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:08 PM (/XOcP)

54 "That was found at the scene of the Bates murder, the one they're claiming is the sixth Zodiac killing."


There is an old Bates Motel not far from here. I am not making this up. There is a roofing company occupying part of it now for offices. The rest is vacant and falling apart. Creepy huh? Well, I had to go in there. You could make a haunted house out it without doing anything else to it. I dare ya to spend the night in there.

Posted by: f'd at October 08, 2021 02:08 PM (Tnijr)

55 where the evidence is made up and the truth doesn't matter.
Posted by: Flyguy at October 08, 2021 01:56 PM

We've been living in that world for at least 10 years.
Posted by: one of the quiet ones at October 08, 2021 01:58 PM (HeKhk)

I liked the Canadian version of "Whose Lie Is It, Anyway?" better.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 08, 2021 02:01 PM (6FeV1)

the original Brit version with Clive hosting was best IMO.

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 08, 2021 02:08 PM (8D42x)

56 where the evidence is made up and the truth doesn't matter.
Posted by: Flyguy

We're doing climate science now?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 08, 2021 02:09 PM (d9FiS)

57 (part 2)

The writer Thomas Horan believes there never was a "Zodiac" in the first place and that most of Graysmith's book is, when not riddled with mistakes, an out-and-out lie.

His theory is that the first four killings - Faraday / Jensen and Ferrin / Mageau - were related to a police-protected drug gang operating in Vallejo in the late 1960s, that the Hartnell / Shepherd attack was done by a local park ranger and that the murder of Paul Stine was by a SF short-order cook who was already a suspect in cabbie robberies.

https://tinyurl.com/3cwxt4b2

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 08, 2021 02:09 PM (2JVJo)

58 If they had put Monk on that case it would have been done before lunch.

Posted by: f'd at October 08, 2021 02:09 PM (Tnijr)

59 the original Brit version with Clive hosting was best IMO.
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 08, 2021 02:08 PM (8D42x)

I thought that was Canadian. Derp.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 08, 2021 02:10 PM (6FeV1)

60 I used the code on Hamlet and it turns out Gary Francis Poste was the true author of the Shakespeare plays.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 08, 2021 02:04 PM (d9FiS)

I used the code on the Handmaid's Tale and all i got was ovarian cancer.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 08, 2021 02:05 PM (6FeV1)

I used the code on Ringworld and got to ang all the hot alien chicks

Posted by: Louis Wu at October 08, 2021 02:10 PM (IJES/)

61 "If they had put Monk on that case it would have been done before lunch."

Quincy would crack the case with microscopy, by the weekend.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at October 08, 2021 02:11 PM (qpX6U)

62 When everyone learns to code, there will be no more crime.
Posted by: Ruthless

One of the reasons I left IT. Everyone, including management, thought they could code.

"But I went to a six week code Boot Camp!"

Posted by: Tonypete at October 08, 2021 02:11 PM (e1mwr)

63 >>If they had put Monk on that case it would have been done before lunch.


He'd have wrapped it up 'Round Midnite.

Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2021 02:11 PM (8k/pR)

64 I thought Jack Straw was really Tom Slumming Cruise.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 08, 2021 02:11 PM (aLutp)

65 the original Brit version with Clive hosting was best IMO.
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 08, 2021 02:08 PM (8D42x)

I thought that was Canadian. Derp.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 08, 2021 02:10 PM (6FeV1)

well, brit, canuckie... it's basically the same thing with a bit more soooorry...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 08, 2021 02:12 PM (8D42x)

66
One of the reasons I left IT. Everyone, including management, thought they could code.

"But I went to a six week code Boot Camp!"
Posted by: Tonypete at October 08, 2021 02:11 PM (e1mwr)

They can code like a muthafukka. But they can't script with a damn.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 08, 2021 02:12 PM (6FeV1)

67 Yeah, this whole "we identified the Zodiac from matching wrinkles in his photo to wrinkles drawn on a suspect portrait" is utter bullshit.

-
The science of forehead wrinklology is in its infancy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 08, 2021 02:12 PM (d9FiS)

68
48 Nobody can top Tony Curtis as the Boston Strangler. Who knew stranglers in Boston spoke with a Brooklyn accent?
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 08, 2021 02:08 PM (J7wri)

-----

"Spawtacus, I love yez." (Dies,)

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 08, 2021 02:12 PM (+VPD5)

69 "If they had put Monk on that case it would have been done before lunch."

Quincy would crack the case with microscopy, by the weekend.
Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos

Or Kojak "She's a hookah!!"

Posted by: Tonypete at October 08, 2021 02:12 PM (e1mwr)

70 "If they had put Monk on that case it would have been done before lunch."

Quincy would crack the case with microscopy, by the weekend.


Patrick "The Mentalist" Jane would have at least entertained us with some parlor tricks and indirection.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 08, 2021 02:12 PM (+LCoQ)

71 Are these former FBI agents doing the investigating? Thank goodness they're retired and too young to act as Ken dolls with matching hair styles and clothes and going after Trump voters or parents complaining about CRT.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 08, 2021 02:13 PM (lQj4a)

72 "38 >>Those same UK feminists have helped enable thousands upon thousands of rapes with their bleeding-heart lefty bullshit.


Yup. Promote the mass acceptance of violent refugees, turn a blind eye as they rape, sorry "groom," girls for decades, but that's not the hill to die on. That would be racist. Instead, let's focus on creepy policemen.

*massive eye roll*
Posted by: Lizzy/i] at October 08, 2021 02:05 PM (bDqIh)"

Well look on the bright side, another 20 years and they won't need to worry about it either way because they won't have a nation anymore.

All parts of western europe that flooded themselves with muslim refugees are toast. Nothing will save them short of an absurd amount of bloodshed.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at October 08, 2021 02:13 PM (+lwg5)

73 Speaking of the Romunda band, Speidel still makes it; you can buy them and other Twist-O-Flex bands on Bezos's little hobby site.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:13 PM (/XOcP)

74 With, worth, whatever. It's been a long week.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 08, 2021 02:13 PM (6FeV1)

75 If we're talking about the "creepy vibe" test. I don't think they should let minors hang out in the presence of Adam Schiff. He's got the look.

Posted by: Orson at October 08, 2021 02:13 PM (zUxnG)

76 Gary Francis Poste shot J.R!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 08, 2021 02:14 PM (d9FiS)

77 "He'd have wrapped it up 'Round Midnite."

Well, You Needn't start up with the Thelonious puns so Don't Blame Me.

Posted by: f'd at October 08, 2021 02:14 PM (Tnijr)

78 All parts of western europe that flooded themselves with muslim refugees are toast. Nothing will save them short of an absurd amount of bloodshed.

*nervously chuckles in American-ish*

Posted by: Estados Unidos at October 08, 2021 02:14 PM (QU5/8)

79 I thought Maggie Simpson as the Zodiac Killer?

Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2021 02:14 PM (8k/pR)

80 "If they had put Monk on that case it would have been done before lunch."

Quincy would crack the case with microscopy, by the weekend.
Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos

Or Kojak "She's a hookah!!"
Posted by: Tonypete at October 08, 2021 02:12 PM (e1mwr)

eh, just one more question...

Posted by: Zombie Colombo at October 08, 2021 02:15 PM (8D42x)

81 And I'd say, as a general matter, that I do trust the feelings of people as regards this kind of thing.

That's the Holy Spirit talking to people. When you encounter a demon, it lights up your senses.

The more in tune with the Lord you are, the more evil you can see in mankind. It's the reason didn't answer questions, He always answered intent because He sees clearly what was in the heart of men.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 08, 2021 02:15 PM (YA914)

82
The man on the Grassy Knoll? You guessed it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2021 02:15 PM (/U27+)

83 Quincy would crack the case with microscopy, by the weekend.
Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos
_____________

He'd think he solved it with microscopy, but then they'd exhume the body and discover the bullet hole in the back of the skull that Quincy missed during the first autopsy.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:15 PM (k4dH2)

84 75: Yeah, Adam Schiff is a creepy dude.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 08, 2021 02:15 PM (yRved)

85
If there aren't at least 2 psychics involved, I remain skeptical.
Posted by: garrett at October 08, 2021 02:02 PM (8k/pR)


If said psychics don't live in a house on the freeway with a ginormous "Palm Readings" neon sign on the front lawn, they're frauds.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2021 02:15 PM (n+4am)

86 "He'd have wrapped it up 'Round Midnite."

Well, You Needn't start up with the Thelonious puns so Don't Blame Me.
Posted by: f'd at October 08, 2021


***
A clear case of Thelonious assault

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:16 PM (/XOcP)

87 That's the Holy Spirit talking to people. When you encounter a demon, it lights up your senses.

I'm not sure how the defense would be able to cross examine The Holy Spirit

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 08, 2021 02:16 PM (+LCoQ)

88 Yeah, Adam Schiff is a creepy dude.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 08, 2021 02:15 PM (yRved)

So full of shit the intra cranial pressure makes his eyes bulge.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 08, 2021 02:16 PM (6FeV1)

89 First clue it might be bullshit: "former FBI agents." Need I say more?

Posted by: Bonnie Blue no longer gives a shit at October 08, 2021 02:16 PM (hlxe7)

90 If there aren't at least 2 psychics involved, I remain skeptical.

.....

Shawn Spencer and Burton Guster.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 08, 2021 02:16 PM (YA914)

91 Banacek would have had a hard time with the Zodiac case. Nothing had been stolen, impossibly or otherwise.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:16 PM (/XOcP)

92 Ace, many of the folks who have been following this case for a LOOOOONG time are raising the Bravo Sierra flag on this claim.

Check out the website zodiackiller.com, there is a discussion of this on their forum.

Here is the forum post on this:

https://tinyurl.com/ct4cbv9t

Posted by: RobertM at October 08, 2021 02:17 PM (qWhQP)

93 has identified the infamous killer as Gary Francis Poste

That U2 pilot got around.

Posted by: spindrift at October 08, 2021 02:17 PM (h5TKJ)

94 If they had put Monk on that case it would have been done before lunch.


He'd have wrapped it up 'Round Midnite.
Posted by: garrett

Not you, Thelonius! We're taking about people without funny names!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at October 08, 2021 02:17 PM (d9FiS)

95 I'm surprised Frank Cannon didn't solve this one.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 08, 2021 02:17 PM (J7wri)

96 Ice Breakers > Case Breakers

Posted by: johnd01 at October 08, 2021 02:18 PM (ukNFU)

97 "One of the reasons I left IT."

I wish there was a coding job where I sit in my own room with my Kools and diet cola, and they throw the specs over the transom, and I leave the product outside the door in the morning. No phones, no meetings, no face-to-face, just email if needed. And no fucking crunch.

In the real world, I'd have to spend 90% of my time on the damn phone, and the rest of the time explaining to my supervisor why I can't design when I'm on the phone.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at October 08, 2021 02:18 PM (qpX6U)

98 The zodiac case is fascinating. I read about it whenever I see something about it. I read a book about it in the 80's

It scared the shit out of me as a kid.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 08, 2021 02:18 PM (M+Lyo)

99 Dr. Gideon Fell would have found the Zodiac case intriguing, but since nobody died in a locked room or in the middle of an unmarked stretch of sand yards from anyone, he'd have been stymied.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:18 PM (/XOcP)

100 Everyone knows a Zodiac is an inflatable raft. There's the killer, right there, floating down the river.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:18 PM (/uaBM)

101 All parts of western europe that flooded themselves with muslim refugees are toast. Nothing will save them short of an absurd amount of bloodshed.
Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at October 08, 2021 02:13 PM (+lwg5)


So, another forever war that the elite can grift from while patriotic americans die in foreign soil with effed up roe.

I say let the eurofags burn in the hell they created.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at October 08, 2021 02:18 PM (IJES/)

102 Or better yet, never hired the lunatic in the first place.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer
A minor related point is our society where cops can stop you on the street for X. This guy IIRC used the excuse of Covid something or other, to stop the girl.

Posted by: MikeM at October 08, 2021 02:18 PM (5SG4R)

103
The team was led by Joe Friday.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2021 02:18 PM (/U27+)

104 "I'm surprised Frank Cannon didn't solve this one."

Accidentally ate the case file. It was stuck on the bottom of my pizza.

Posted by: Zombie Frank Cannon at October 08, 2021 02:18 PM (Tnijr)

105 Hercule Poirot would have found the Zodiac case quite simple. He'd have discovered the murderer was Captain Hastings.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:18 PM (/XOcP)

106 Ice Breakers > Case Breakers
Posted by: johnd01 at October 08, 2021 02:18 PM (ukNFU)

Ice Pirates > Ice Breakers > Case Breakers

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 08, 2021 02:19 PM (8D42x)

107 LOL

Posted by: DB Cooper at October 08, 2021 02:19 PM (5tb3b)

108 Two hundred dollars a day plus expenses.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 08, 2021 02:19 PM (kTF2Z)

109 >>> I will say the Zodiac movie was pretty well done. The ca. 1970 cars not only fitted the period, they looked used, like everyday commuter cars, not like garage queens. Clothes were spot on. And in one scene Jake Gyllenhaal is wearing a watch on an expanding Romunda band. I can't tell you how many of those I bought for my various Timexes in the '70s.

it's a fantastic movie. Its big flaw is that it's based on the nonsensical ravings of a flake nobody cartoonist who 1, did not break any codes, and 2, falsely accused an innocent man of being zodiac.

but it is great.

Posted by: ace at October 08, 2021 02:19 PM (0G13K)

110 I'm not sure how the defense would be able to cross examine The Holy Spirit
Posted by: Reuben Hick

"Where were you on the Feast of the Visitation?!"

Posted by: Tonypete at October 08, 2021 02:19 PM (e1mwr)

111 >>Yeah, Adam Schiff is a creepy dude.

Yeah, creepy all by himself, but also being pals with Ed Buck .

Posted by: Lizzy/i] at October 08, 2021 02:20 PM (bDqIh)

112 Todays word for the people getting fired for not vaxxing- Sabotage.

Posted by: Capital Eff at October 08, 2021 02:20 PM (5tb3b)

113 it's a fantastic movie. Its big flaw is that it's based on the nonsensical ravings of a flake nobody cartoonist who 1, did not break any codes, and 2, falsely accused an innocent man of being zodiac.

but it is great.
Posted by: ace at October 08, 2021


***
Since I've never studied the actual case, I just looked at the film as a good story.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:20 PM (/XOcP)

114 In one [of the Zodiac's notes to the media], the letters of Poste's full name were removed to reveal an alternate message, a Case Breakers investigator told Fox News.

-
Just the facts, ma'am.

Posted by: Joe Friday at October 08, 2021 02:21 PM (d9FiS)

115 Yeah, Zodiac is well worth watching.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at October 08, 2021 02:21 PM (qpX6U)

116 Ice Pirates > Ice Breakers > Case Breakers
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 08, 2021


***

Heart Breakers >>> Case Breakers

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:21 PM (/XOcP)

117 I think I could get a conviction on this guy.

Posted by: Hamilton Burger at October 08, 2021 02:21 PM (63Dwl)

118
I wish there was a coding job where I sit in my own room with my Kools and diet cola, and they throw the specs over the transom, and I leave the product outside the door in the morning. No phones, no meetings, no face-to-face, just email if needed. And no fucking crunch.

__________

My current gig doesn't pay much, but in a way it's nice. They throw a search request over the transom, I estimate a cost, they say go ahead and a week later I drop it on their desk with my billing sheet. I don't even talk to anyone anymore.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2021 02:21 PM (/U27+)

119 When they use the middle name you know he's guilty, of something.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 08, 2021 02:22 PM (qbLRU)

120 I'm not sure how the defense would be able to cross examine The Holy Spirit.

Posted by: Reuben Hick

......

Obviously.

I'm just saying I think that's what that intuition is.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 08, 2021 02:22 PM (YA914)

121 "My current gig doesn't pay much, but in a way it's nice. They throw a search request over the transom, I estimate a cost, they say go ahead and a week later I drop it on their desk with my billing sheet. I don't even talk to anyone anymore."

Count your blessings!

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at October 08, 2021 02:22 PM (qpX6U)

122 *shifty eyes*

These new guys with a bullshit theory must be right.

Posted by: T Cruz, Texas at October 08, 2021 02:23 PM (Ojki1)

123 I'm surprised the FBI guys working on the Zodiac case didn't say that the guy voted for Trump two years before he died....

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021 02:23 PM (mR6Gs)

124 Not talking to anybody is good. When you talk to people you learn how stupid everybody is (except for we here).

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:23 PM (/uaBM)

125 Pirates of the Caribbean > Ice Pirates > Ice Breakers > Case Breakers

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 08, 2021 02:23 PM (qbLRU)

126 Dave McGowen's Books are excellent and worth a read.
"Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, which goes into the military and its connection to Hollywood and Laurel Canyon, and Programmed to Kill, which delves into the Serial Killer phenomena and the people behind it."
He discusses Zodiac killer in both. It's best to read Weird Sciences about the Military connections to Hollywood and Laurel Canyon first. It sets Programmed to Kill which looks at individual Serial Killers.

Here is a write up on programmed Serial Killers using McGowen's work.
https://is.gd/FSlnos




Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 08, 2021 02:23 PM (MSyE6)

127 That's an easy, glaring, obvious "Tell" - whatever it is that "Feminists" claim to be doing, it doesn't have anything to do with "Feminism". If it were, Gloria Steinem would be straddling the border screeching about hordes of illegals and Moslem "Refugees" pouring across. Same argument really for anyone that purports concern about communicable diseases, or "the environment".

Everything these people say is a fucking lie, including "the" "and" etc.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 08, 2021 02:23 PM (RtI0W)

128 Come to think of it, Barnaby Jones was right there in California (albeit around LA, not SF) during the Zodiac's time. And Robert T. Ironside was right there in SF. Zodiac got lucky they never took an interest in his case!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:23 PM (/XOcP)

129 Ice Pirates > Ice Breakers > Case Breakers
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 08, 2021

***

Heart Breakers >>> Case Breakers
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:21 PM (/XOcP)

Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers> Case Breakers

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021 02:24 PM (mR6Gs)

130 *sigh*

Posted by: Gentle Voices at October 08, 2021 02:24 PM (yQpMk)

131 So why don't they ever use Adolf Hitler's middle name? Huh?

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:24 PM (/uaBM)

132 The code was written in Reptilian and says Drink More Ovaltine.

Posted by: The Galactic Alien Council at October 08, 2021 02:24 PM (MH0eD)

133 Saw a great halloween display in the neighborhood this am. They go all out. This year they have a riding lawnmower on the front lawn, a skeleton driving and another skeleton half underneath the front with bones scattered around. It was hilarious.

Posted by: Infidel at October 08, 2021 02:24 PM (iorxD)

134
So why don't they ever use Adolf Hitler's middle name? Huh?
Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:24 PM (/uaBM)

___________

Elizabeth

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2021 02:24 PM (/U27+)

135 Come to think of it, Barnaby Jones was right there in California (albeit around LA, not SF) during the Zodiac's time. And Robert T. Ironside was right there in SF. Zodiac got lucky they never took an interest in his case!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:23 PM (/XOcP)

So was Cannon, and the guys from Dragnet and Adam 12.

They could have joined forces!

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021 02:24 PM (mR6Gs)

136
All parts of western europe that flooded themselves with muslim refugees are toast. Nothing will save them short of an absurd amount of bloodshed.
Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at October 08, 2021 02:13 PM (+lwg5)

Well, to be fair, western europe has a LOT of historical experience with wholesale slaughter.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2021 02:24 PM (n+4am)

137 Wasn't Kojack in SF at the time of the killings too?

Posted by: johnd01 at October 08, 2021 02:26 PM (ukNFU)

138 The identity of the Zodiac killer will never be fully known until we find out his astrological sign.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at October 08, 2021 02:26 PM (qpX6U)

139 Todays word for the people getting fired for not vaxxing- Sabotage.
Posted by: Capital Eff at October 08, 2021 02:20 PM


Wreckers, saboteurs, and counterrevolutionaries!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 08, 2021 02:26 PM (m+jkK)

140 When Europe is done with the Muzzies, where will they send the trains? Poland is not going to let it happen again.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:26 PM (/uaBM)

141
Dave McGowen's Books are excellent and worth a read.
"Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, which goes into the military and its connection to Hollywood and Laurel Canyon


I think I heard that guy on Coast to Coast AM a few weeks ago.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 08, 2021 02:27 PM (63Dwl)

142 Sherlock Holmes would have caught the Ripper easily.

Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2021 02:27 PM (CYnTg)

143 "So why don't they ever use Adolf Hitler's middle name? Huh?"


Karen?

Posted by: davidt at October 08, 2021 02:27 PM (L2a8p)

144 Because of increasing violence targeting street covid testing and vaccination sites many now have police posted next to them

Posted by: Kurt at October 08, 2021 02:27 PM (VjQ9n)

145 it's a fantastic movie. Its big flaw is that it's based on the nonsensical ravings of a flake nobody cartoonist who 1, did not break any codes, and 2, falsely accused an innocent man of being zodiac.

but it is great.
Posted by: ace at October 08, 2021 02:19 PM (0G13K)


You should really read Horan's book, Ace. He tears Graysmith (whose real name is Robert Smith) apart. He believes Graysmith faked a number of the Zodiac letters and that the reason he settled on Arthur Leigh Allen as the killer was that, as his book was nearing completion, the man he was going to identify was completely cleared by police and so, to fulfill his publishing contract, he had to find someone else.

But I agree, the movie is marvelous.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 08, 2021 02:27 PM (2JVJo)

146 Abolish every three letter agency that declares half the country terror adjacent.

You can't fucking unring that bell.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 08, 2021 02:27 PM (/hXfz)

147 This is how law enforcement should be.

https://bit.ly/3AjAKKk

Posted by: Joe Friday at October 08, 2021 02:27 PM (d9FiS)

148 Schickelgruber something something.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:28 PM (/uaBM)

149 Pirates of the Caribbean > Ice Pirates > Ice Breakers > Case Breakers
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 08, 2021 02:23 PM (qbLRU)

sighs... Kiera Knightly's bustier enhanced boobage...

best two parts of that movie...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 08, 2021 02:28 PM (8D42x)

150 A minor related point is our society where cops can stop you on the street for X. This guy IIRC used the excuse of Covid something or other, to stop the girl.
Posted by: MikeM
____________

Yes, and there were actually people in the U.K. trying to blame the victim, saying women should be more mindful of their rights, and Sarah should have known not to go off with this lunatic cop after he stopped her on the street and ordered her to come with him. It was absurd. The cops were at fault here. They knew this guy had a screw loose, and yet they still allowed him to be out on the streets with the authority of a cop. It was a disgraceful violation of the public trust.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:28 PM (k4dH2)

151 Francois Verove, 59, admitted he was "Le Grele'" or "The Pockmarked Man" ...

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I've got a great idea for a reboot of The Fugitive starring a pockmarked trans.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at October 08, 2021 02:28 PM (LRtsD)

152 it's a fantastic movie. Its big flaw is that it's based on the nonsensical ravings of a flake nobody cartoonist who 1, did not break any codes, and 2, falsely accused an innocent man of being zodiac.

but it is great.
Posted by: ace

Isn't that the point tho? That it is based on that dude who went full Schizo and OCD investigating t the case using his book as the source?
I viewed it as the unreliable narrator/POV angle.

I also used to use it for years to fall asleep to so... (underrated movie just the mood and pacing and everything would knock me out.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 08, 2021 02:29 PM (MSyE6)

153 Gary Francis Powers> Gary Francis Poste

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021 02:29 PM (mR6Gs)

154 Gavin Brylcreem has signed new legislation making it illegal to remove a condom. I'm really glad they've finally decided to start looking at enforcing the really important things in this state. Because really, homeless, third world alien invasion, crumbling infrastructure, rampant crime and a dying middle class are all minor distractions.

https://youtu.be/DLhqvk19_Is

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 08, 2021 02:29 PM (wAnMi)

155 "So, another forever war that the elite can grift from while patriotic americans die in foreign soil with effed up roe.

I say let the eurofags burn in the hell they created.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at October 08, 2021 02:18 PM (IJES/)"

Not our fight anymore anyways, on account of no longer having a country and soon being preoccupied here with our own conflict.

Something that not as many people understand as probably should: Obama planned a surge of refugees over the southern border here to coincide with the north africans flooding the EU, but betrayed them and waved off early, giving us a bit of a comparative advantage. The old Charlie Brown football trick.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at October 08, 2021 02:29 PM (+lwg5)

156 I saw a picture of a women's march. One sign read "how come every woman knows someone who has been raped but no men know anybody who is a rapist". Kind of implying that "The Patriarchy" is covering up for rapists. The answer is simple: not every woman really knows someone who has been raped and real rapists are sociopaths that don't tend to have friends.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 08, 2021 02:29 PM (h1jJh)

157 Ted Cruz will be so happy.

I'm also bemused by the fact they took THIS fucking long to ""find"" the killer, when he was already long dead.

Justice delayed is justice denied.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 08, 2021 02:29 PM (XvPQV)

158 So why don't they ever use Adolf Hitler's middle name? Huh?
Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:24 PM (/uaBM)

it's hard to pronounce in the original Austrian?

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 08, 2021 02:29 PM (8D42x)

159 When Europe is done with the Muzzies, where will they send the trains? Poland is not going to let it happen again.
Posted by: Ruthless
I have a bad feeling it will be the Muzzies who are done with the Europeans. And knowing the Muzzies, the trains will not be running. Europe, except for Hungary, will just be a post-modern(?) shxthole.

Posted by: MikeM at October 08, 2021 02:30 PM (5SG4R)

160
When they use the middle name you know he's guilty, of something.
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 08, 2021 02:22 PM (qbLRU)


Only if the middle name is "Lee"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2021 02:30 PM (n+4am)

161
Wreckers, saboteurs, and counterrevolutionaries!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 08, 2021 02:26 PM (m+jkK)

________

Don't forget us!

Posted by: Kulaks, hoarders and foreign spies at October 08, 2021 02:30 PM (/U27+)

162 Uh oh, people are posting that they're having problems with Instagram, that social media site that also doubles as a quasi-dating site.

Where will all the thirst(s) be quenched tonight?

Posted by: Thrawn at October 08, 2021 02:30 PM (5aFbR)

163 I think Detective Fish would've stumbled over the Zodiak Killer attacking a victim while rushing to get to the bathroom at the 12th Precinct - had the Zodiak operated in New York, that is.

Posted by: Paco at October 08, 2021 02:30 PM (1Jm+u)

164 These rules were nonce rules -- not really "rules" at all, just them making up whatever rule was needed to "solve" the cipher.

I don't that's a valid objection here. This is a crypto puzzle, not a code. Z didn't use an Enigma machine to encode this, he presumably took a plaintext message and applied a bunch of ad hoc rules to it. The "solvers" are just trying to reverse that.

If Z wanted an unbreakable message, he could have generated a one time pad, encrypted the message with it, and burned the one time pad. Then that message could never be decoded. Where's the fun in that?

Posted by: Chuck C at October 08, 2021 02:30 PM (EughT)

165 Sir Francis Bacon > Gary Francis Powers> Gary Francis Poste

Posted by: johnd01 at October 08, 2021 02:31 PM (ukNFU)

166 When Europe is done with the Muzzies, where will they send the trains? Poland is not going to let it happen again.
Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:26 PM (/uaBM)

There are train tracks connecting europe to the u.k. the effing brits are just kooky enough to go there too.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at October 08, 2021 02:31 PM (IJES/)

167 Dave McGowan really hit one out of the park on the Laurel Canyon book. I disagree a little bit about some of his assumptions. The only thing about Dave is he went on to write a whole lot about how the Apollo moon landings were fake. Now that's some weird shit right there, never mind the 1960s LA music scene.
-----

There was some really wacky stuff associated with the Dave Berkowitz aka "Son of Sam" murders, something about him predicting a murder elsewhere. Also that there may have been quite a few people involved. There are some seriously wacked out people running around, that's for sure.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 08, 2021 02:31 PM (RtI0W)

168 And yes, I think the case now being made is very weak.

Posted by: Paco at October 08, 2021 02:31 PM (1Jm+u)

169 Breaking: The FBI says they have solved the mystery of the Pockmarked Man.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 08, 2021 02:31 PM (r5BVk)

170 If you need to be convinced to become a concealed carrier, there's a scene or two in Zodiac that might persuade you.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at October 08, 2021 02:31 PM (qpX6U)

171 I think Brian might be dead. Offed himself. Wanted to do it in such a way that the Petito family doesn't get any "closure".

they had an argument and he slapper her and she fell and broke her neck or something like that. That's when he came home to retrieve stuff he needed from that locker. Then he returned and move her and the truck then came back home and set up his family to help but not know he was going to disappear. (they may have guessed but he gave them some excuse to cling to)

Now he's out in the woods somewhere and likely dead and his body/bones scattered so the can't be found. Other wise I think they would've found him if he was there somewhere. I may (lower prob on this one) have the gear and IDs and he's given them the slip by the misdirection and the time. It is possible to hide from the Gov't but you have to get away from all you know and have a good genuine id in a different name.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 08, 2021 02:32 PM (4QtXQ)

172 Skaluk is Kulaks spelled backward. It's code for something. No one knows what. It's a mystery. They're going to make a movie.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:32 PM (/uaBM)

173 Wasn't Kojack in SF at the time of the killings too?
Posted by: johnd01 at October 08, 2021


***
I thought Kojak was a New York guy.

The trouble with early '70s TV detectives was that the stories were all "open" crime stories. Instead of the "closed" type, the whodunit, the script would show the crime being committed, so the viewer always knew, and then would show the detective trying to piece it together. Columbo did the technique very well (it had been pioneered by a writer named Freeman before World War I), but the rest were kind of plodding. A real puzzle story a la Ellery Queen/John Dickson Carr would have been beyond most of the TV shows then, and now.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:32 PM (/XOcP)

174 Gavin Brylcreem has signed new legislation making it illegal to remove a condom.

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Ever?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 08, 2021 02:32 PM (kTF2Z)

175
And knowing the Muzzies, the trains will not be running. Europe, except for Hungary, will just be a post-modern(?) shxthole.
Posted by: MikeM at October 08, 2021 02:30 PM (5SG4R)

________

Old excuse: trains not running because of leaves on the tracks.

New excuse: trains not running because of shit on the tracks.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2021 02:32 PM (/U27+)

176 I think I heard that guy on Coast to Coast AM a few weeks ago.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

He died of cancer in 2015ish. He has been around for a long time before that.
Anyway, great books and well researched and sourced. Worth the read. The Weird Sciences connections with the Military and Hollywood and Laurel Canyon will blow you away. You will never view the 60's the same way again.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 08, 2021 02:32 PM (MSyE6)

177 The answer is simple: not every woman really knows someone who has been raped and real rapists are sociopaths that don't tend to have friends.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 08, 2021 02:29 PM (h1jJh)

And even if they DO have friends, what rapist tells them, " Hey, I raped this chick today..."

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021 02:32 PM (mR6Gs)

178 165 Sir Francis Bacon > Gary Francis Powers> Gary Francis Poste
Posted by: johnd01 at October 08, 2021 02:31 PM (ukNFU)

Bacon and Eggs > Sir Francis Bacon > Gary Francis Powers> Gary Francis Poste

Posted by: Wino in the ER at October 08, 2021 02:33 PM (BgMrQ)

179
Thick-cut bacon >>> Sir Francis Bacon

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2021 02:33 PM (/U27+)

180 Because of increasing violence targeting street covid testing and vaccination sites many now have police posted next to them
Posted by: Kurt at October 08, 2021 02:27 PM (VjQ9n)



It makes it easier for them to prey on the weak and helpless.

also, Shut up, Dunce.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 08, 2021 02:33 PM (yQpMk)

181 114 In one [of the Zodiac's notes to the media], the letters of Poste's full name were removed to reveal an alternate message, a Case Breakers investigator told Fox News.

D O N T F O R G E T T O D R I N K Y O U R O V A L T I N E

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 08, 2021 02:33 PM (mEckN)

182 So why don't they ever use Adolf Hitler's middle name? Huh?
Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:24 PM (/uaBM)


He didn't have one. IIRC, the name on his birth certificate was "Adolfus."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 08, 2021 02:33 PM (2JVJo)

183 /off drunk sock

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 08, 2021 02:33 PM (BgMrQ)

184 Shit, how am I gonna be able to pee now?

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:34 PM (/uaBM)

185 Couldn't remember the title, so just looked it up: The Deliberate Stranger, about serial killer Ted Bundy, starring a young Mark Harmon.

Two-part TV movie, creepy as hell (as one would think), but done really well. I don't know whether I want to watch it again or not, to tell the truth.

Posted by: Fou Troll at October 08, 2021 02:34 PM (HLwmB)

186 I see that the Punchy admin is pushing for assigning a Dishonorable Discharge for any military personnel that don't get the jab.

If someone is dishonorably discharged from the military they are not allowed to own firearms according to US federal law. Military members who receive a Dishonorable Discharge forfeit all military and veterans benefits and may have a difficult time finding work in the civilian sector. It has the same effect on a former military member similar as a felony conviction, and is indeed treated as a felony conviction in more than a few states.

You must be court-martialed to get one, and its not clear that military personnel dismissed for not having the vaccine will even get a court trial...unbelievable that Punchy would do this.

Posted by: Boswell at October 08, 2021 02:34 PM (5iUNf)

187 The moon landing hoax people annoy me. You can actually see the stuff we left on the moon, the laser reflector they placed is still there.Where did the Apollo launches go? If they just sat in orbit nobody would notice right? We faked the comms back and forth from the whole way to the moon, from the moon and the whole way back to? The Soviets would certainly look the other way to all this, guess they were in on it too...

Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2021 02:34 PM (CYnTg)

188 It was a disgraceful violation of the public trust.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:28 PM (k4dH2)

--------

That concept and term are now deader than even America.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at October 08, 2021 02:34 PM (LRtsD)

189 If you need to be convinced to become a concealed carrier, there's a scene or two in Zodiac that might persuade you.
Posted by: It's OK To Be gp

A gal pal in Chicago was carjacked at gunpoint this week.

Her outlook on weaponry has suddenly and mysteriously changed this week also.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 08, 2021 02:34 PM (e1mwr)

190 Sir Francis Bacon > Gary Francis Powers> Gary Francis Poste> Pope Francis

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021 02:35 PM (mR6Gs)

191 I was in middle school in Los Altos when the Zodiac purportedly called from a Palo Alto phone booth about picking kids off as they exited the bus. I remember we'd be making jokes about it, and we'd always make sure we'd "bounce" out of the school bus all bright and happy.

And then serpentine like mad all the way home.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 08, 2021 02:35 PM (wAnMi)

192 "Yeah, this whole '"we identified the Zodiac from matching wrinkles in his photo to wrinkles drawn on a suspect portrait' is utter bullshit."

That's when I knew the conclusion was dubious. Unless the "wrinkle" was something akin to a universally known tattoo or a scar spelling out K-I-L-L-E-R or somesuch, that was utterly useless as an identifier. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously flawed. And describing facial lines to a sketch artist? Are you kidding me? Might as well say, "Yeah, the culprit had hair. HAIR I tell ya'!"

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at October 08, 2021 02:35 PM (aXxgO)

193 I doubt you heard Dave McGowan on CtoC, unless a rerun. He passed away a few years ago.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 08, 2021 02:35 PM (RtI0W)

194 That Case Breakers stuff is nothing more than click bait for that group. There's no proof in their proof.

Agreed on the gut instinct thing both that it should be given heed on a personal level and that it should be kept the hell out of a court room.

The Dating Game killer? Yeah, the woman he was supposed to go on the date with flatly refused because he gave her the creeps.

In Let's Go Brandon news, this is fantastic. Sound up.

https://twitter.com/Brick_Suit/status/1446451556514242561

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at October 08, 2021 02:36 PM (mf5HN)

195 There was some really wacky stuff associated with the Dave Berkowitz aka "Son of Sam" murders, something about him predicting a murder elsewhere. Also that there may have been quite a few people involved. There are some seriously wacked out people running around, that's for sure.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 08, 2021 02:31 PM (RtI0W)


The late Maury Terry believed the SoS killings were by a Satanic cult which was an offshoot of the Process Church of the Final Judgement:

https://tinyurl.com/3t7j89zm

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 08, 2021 02:36 PM (2JVJo)

196 189 A gal pal in Chicago was carjacked at gunpoint this week.

Her outlook on weaponry has suddenly and mysteriously changed this week also.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 08, 2021 02:34 PM (e1mwr)

=========

That's guns are an unequal distributor of social justice and only blacks should have them?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 08, 2021 02:36 PM (LvTSG)

197 The spin and the lies continue-
NBC News
@NBCNews
Latino members of President Biden's Cabinet defend his policies to control the pandemic, saying he's improved vaccination rates and restricted immigration at the southern border to protect public health in the US. https://nbcnews.to/3DmjYfs -
@NBCLatino

Posted by: redridinghood at October 08, 2021 02:36 PM (NpAcC)

198
Because of increasing violence targeting street covid testing and vaccination sites


Name one instance of actual violence targeting a test/vaccination site with a link. I dare you. I double-dog dare you, cocksucker.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2021 02:36 PM (n+4am)

199 Couldn't remember the title, so just looked it up: The Deliberate Stranger, about serial killer Ted Bundy, starring a young Mark Harmon.

Two-part TV movie, creepy as hell (as one would think), but done really well. I don't know whether I want to watch it again or not, to tell the truth.
Posted by: Fou Troll at October 08, 2021


***
I didn't see that, but it was when I first heard of Mark Harmon.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:36 PM (/XOcP)

200 Posted by: Chuck C at October 08, 2021 02:30 PM (EughT)

Next best is a book code using an obscure/little read book.

Altho ones that use popular books can be solved with enough computing power use an obscure enough book one can use a very easy to use code.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 08, 2021 02:36 PM (4QtXQ)

201
Heh, heh, heh...

Posted by: The Real Zodiac Killer at October 08, 2021 02:37 PM (/U27+)

202 Some of the stronger evidence cited was that their suspect is known to have a zodiac sign

Posted by: Y5 at October 08, 2021 02:37 PM (Co1m8)

203 If you're going to take the nonsensical ravings of a flake nobody out of the movies, what will you have next.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 08, 2021 02:37 PM (d9FiS)

204 A real puzzle story a la Ellery Queen/John Dickson Carr would have been beyond most of the TV shows then, and now.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:32 PM (/XOcP)

That's why I like the Nero Wolfe stories. It isn't so much about who the killer is or how they're caught, it's the characters and how they go about investigating.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 08, 2021 02:37 PM (XvPQV)

205 I think it actually hurt Mark Harmon's career he was so good in that...

Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2021 02:37 PM (CYnTg)

206 The FBI is a bit back logged on a lot of cases they seem to have dropped

Posted by: Skip at October 08, 2021 02:37 PM (2JoB8)

207
I think I heard that guy on Coast to Coast AM a few weeks ago.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

He died of cancer in 2015ish. He has been around for a long time before that.
Anyway, great books and well researched and sourced. Worth the read. The Weird Sciences connections with the Military and Hollywood and Laurel Canyon will blow you away. You will never view the 60's the same way again.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe


The guest must have been talking about him. He was talking about Laurel Canyon and the military. He said Frank Zappa's dad had some connection to the military.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 08, 2021 02:37 PM (63Dwl)

208 Has anyone looked into the idea of the Zodiac being a cultist of the Old Gods?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 08, 2021 02:38 PM (LvTSG)

209 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2021 02:36 PM (n+4am)

Yeah. Ain't no way the gov't blow job media would let that go by without a 5 alarm fire headline.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 08, 2021 02:38 PM (4QtXQ)

210 Hitler's birth certificate:

https://tinyurl.com/yh4zuxdz

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 08, 2021 02:38 PM (2JVJo)

211 The character - "Scorpio Killer" in Dirty Harry was inspired by the zodiac killer

Posted by: Arher at October 08, 2021 02:38 PM (gmo/4)

212 The answer is simple: not every woman really knows someone who has been raped and real rapists are sociopaths that don't tend to have friends.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 08, 2021 02:29 PM (h1jJh)

And even if they DO have friends, what rapist tells them, " Hey, I raped this chick today..."
Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021 02:32 PM (mR6Gs)

it doesn't help when they classify looking at them odd as rape...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 08, 2021 02:38 PM (8D42x)

213 "A gal pal in Chicago was carjacked at gunpoint this week."

Two people murdered by gunshot, within a mile radius of my home in shithole Rockford, in the last week. One of my friends was murdered in his home in 2010. Several others held up, one carjacked, in the last 12 years.

I never get tired of posting this, from Rockford on Tuesday:

https://tinyurl.com/bzkbc75d

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at October 08, 2021 02:38 PM (qpX6U)

214 Couldn't remember the title, so just looked it up: The Deliberate Stranger, about serial killer Ted Bundy, starring a young Mark Harmon.


I think Mark Harmon came close to totaling his career with that role. He was just so damn good that for years I couldn't see him as anything else.

The Coors guy was lost.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 08, 2021 02:38 PM (yQpMk)

215 186 I see that the Punchy admin is pushing for assigning a Dishonorable Discharge for any military personnel that don't get the jab.



keep in mind, his dad dodged WW2 service, Hunter got kicked out for smoking crack, and Saint Beau prosecuted soldiers, and it all makes sense.

Posted by: x at October 08, 2021 02:38 PM (oA+QO)

216 There was some really wacky stuff associated with the Dave Berkowitz aka "Son of Sam" murders, something about him predicting a murder elsewhere. Also that there may have been quite a few people involved. There are some seriously wacked out people running around, that's for sure.

The main proponent of the multiple-shooters theory advocated that a Satanic cult was responsible. There's some supporting evidence, though he seems to have been obsessed and had tunnel-vision. Netflix has a recent multiple-part documentary that covers this called The Sons of Sam, I think.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 08, 2021 02:39 PM (QU5/8)

217 I mean we're pretty good at decoding stuff.

Posted by: Ovaltine at October 08, 2021 02:39 PM (5/oma)

218 The Process Church is the one connected to Manson. Ed Sanders talks about that connection in The Family.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at October 08, 2021 02:39 PM (5HBd1)

219 Was the Zodiac a Sagittarius? Would have killed people with his bow and arrow, so probably not. Likely a Scorpio.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:39 PM (/uaBM)

220 All that made up shit about the Zodiac Killer? Yea... it's what this junta has been doing with their bat flu program, with their energy program, with their jobs program, with their...

Who faked it better?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 08, 2021 02:40 PM (BFigT)

221 That's why I like the Nero Wolfe stories. It isn't so much about who the killer is or how they're caught, it's the characters and how they go about investigating.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 08, 2021


***
I grew up on the Wolfe stories and still reread them avidly now, even when I remember who the murderer is. Dynamite writing. I'll admit that Stout sometimes cheated a bit and did not give the reader all the clues necessary. He had a few very good novelettes with brilliant plot devices. But mostly you read them for Archie's narration and the atmosphere and pacing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:40 PM (/XOcP)

222 https://tinyurl.com/yt8as2ah

Twatter thread, original link from Revolver.
Lithuania, with their coof pass, has citizens shopping "soviet-style markets."
Crazy stuff.

Posted by: Fool Otto at October 08, 2021 02:40 PM (DB16e)

223 A dishonorable discharge means you can't vote nor own firearms.

The fact that the Biden-Harris people or whoever is running the show behind this are completely disgusting individuals purely driven by mean, petty, vile motivations. They will fucking kill you the first chance they get. Prepare accordingly. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 08, 2021 02:40 PM (RtI0W)

224 The guest must have been talking about him. He was talking about Laurel Canyon and the military. He said Frank Zappa's dad had some connection to the military.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

That's right. You should check out Jim Morrison's Dad.
Hell lots of high up Naval Intel Spooks and Military lived in Laurel Canyon. Strange that the music scene popped up from there. Then there is Hollywood. And all the mind altering drugs...

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 08, 2021 02:41 PM (MSyE6)

225 @NBCNews
Latino members of President Biden's Cabinet defend his policies to control the pandemic, saying he's improved vaccination rates and restricted immigration at the southern border to protect public health in the US. https://nbcnews.to/3DmjYfs
-
Townhall.com
@townhallcom
Biden explains away his disappointing September jobs report by saying that "the monthly totals bounce around, but if you take a look at the trend, it's solid."

-
I've spotted the trend. Let's just say I expect the unexpected.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 08, 2021 02:41 PM (d9FiS)

226 I'll admit that Stout sometimes cheated a bit and did not give the reader all the clues necessary. He had a few very good novelettes with brilliant plot devices. But mostly you read them for Archie's narration and the atmosphere and pacing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:40 PM (/XOcP)

I'm ok with him cheating. It's not like an Ellery Queen story where the point is for the reader to have a chancne to solve the mystery.

Sometimes you just want a fat egomaniac prove he's worth his fee.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 08, 2021 02:41 PM (XvPQV)

227 Boswell: "You must be court-martialed to get one, and its not clear that military personnel dismissed for not having the vaccine will even get a court trial...unbelievable that Punchy would do this."

To be fair, Punchy isn't. Punchy can barely amble.

But his puppeteers? They're having a field day. This is the best situation possible for them. They dictate ANY lunacy and punitive coercion without direct blowback and with all the authority attributable to an Executive. This is the radicalists dream in an American system until it becomes officially Fascist.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at October 08, 2021 02:41 PM (aXxgO)

228 174 Gavin Brylcreem has signed new legislation making it illegal to remove a condom.

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Ever?
_________

Yes. Sure it may be a bit uncomfortable for you, and it may get a little messy, and eventually become very smelly, but think of Mother Gaia! Some third-grader did the calculations on the back of his lunch bag and figured out that discarded, used condoms account for at least 1/2 of the rubber in the world's oceans! Save the planet by retaining your used condoms on your penis!!! It's the only way!!!!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:42 PM (k4dH2)

229 If I were trying to find the zodiac murderer I would start at the hq

Posted by: Y5 at October 08, 2021 02:42 PM (Co1m8)

230 No love for the Laundrie case? I guess Zodiac rules!

I had a brainstorm, and I just now suggested to the authorities that they may be able to locate Laundrie by utilizing the Antikythera mechanism. It's worth a shot.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at October 08, 2021 02:42 PM (qpX6U)

231 The late Maury Terry believed the SoS killings were by a Satanic cult which was an offshoot of the Process Church of the Final Judgement:

https://tinyurl.com/3t7j89zm
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 08, 2021 02:36 PM (2JVJo)



I can see that being true. What's the estimate, there's something like 300 active serial killers in the US at any given time?

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at October 08, 2021 02:42 PM (mf5HN)

232
The Process Church is the one connected to Manson. Ed Sanders talks about that connection in The Family.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward


Ed Sanders of The Fugs?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 08, 2021 02:42 PM (63Dwl)

233 226
Sometimes you just want a fat egomaniac prove he's worth his fee.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 08, 2021 02:41 PM (XvPQV)

========

Robert Langdon?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, with a brand new work computer at October 08, 2021 02:42 PM (LvTSG)

234 The first zodiac murders near Vallejo were possibly done by someone associated with the local Navy yard. That service guy probable rotated in and out of the area and will never be discovered. The rest are all unassociated murders.

Back in the late 60's - outside the city of Vallejo proper - the area was very rural.

The film is awesome but fiction.

Posted by: 13times at October 08, 2021 02:43 PM (JUq7n)

235
If I were trying to find the zodiac murderer I would start at the hq
Posted by: Y5 at October 08, 2021 02:42 PM (Co1m

_________

Well, gotta go. See you all later.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2021 02:43 PM (/U27+)

236 Gavin Brylcreem has signed new legislation making it illegal to remove a condom.



So she has to just walk around with it in there until the thing biodegrades

Posted by: Y5 at October 08, 2021 02:43 PM (Co1m8)

237 Are there really 300 active killers, or just one really super active one? Ten to fifteen a day kind of guy. Could be since the FBI wouldn't have a clue.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:44 PM (/uaBM)

238 Yes, Ed Sanders of the Fugs. It's a really chilling book. He had to stop researching because there were threats made to his family.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at October 08, 2021 02:44 PM (5HBd1)

239 JoeF.: "I'm surprised the FBI guys working on the Zodiac case didn't say that the guy voted for Trump two years before he died...."

Damn! Why didn't I think of that? Oh yeah. I'm not very smart.

Posted by: FBI at October 08, 2021 02:45 PM (aXxgO)

240 On September 30, a British cop was sentenced to life in prison for the murder of Sarah Everard.

He falsely claimed she was breaking covid curfew and arrested her. Then he drove her to a remote location, raped her, murdered her, and burned her body.

Feminists in Britain are claiming that this is somehow the fault of "The Patriarchy," as if men were protecting this guy.

Another COVID death. Sad.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 08, 2021 02:46 PM (II3Gr)

241 You ain't seen nothin' yet.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 08, 2021 02:40 PM (RtI0W)

If you can assign a felony conviction status on military personnel just because they won't get an experimental vaccine without presenting habeas corpus or having a court trial, couldn't you just have the DOJ assign that status to all unvaccinated Americans, effectively telling them they can't vote or won fire arms? What is to stop them? Every so named American would then have to seek court remedy to clear their felony status, I would assume.

Posted by: Boswell at October 08, 2021 02:46 PM (5iUNf)

242 Yes. Sure it may be a bit uncomfortable for you, and it may get a little messy, and eventually become very smelly, but think of Mother Gaia! Some third-grader did the calculations on the back of his lunch bag and figured out that discarded, used condoms account for at least 1/2 of the rubber in the world's oceans! Save the planet by retaining your used condoms on your penis!!! It's the only way!!!!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:42 PM (k4dH2)


Well, at least now we know what the sub ran into.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 08, 2021 02:46 PM (axyOa)

243 When the government has the power to surveil you and interfere with your personal actions and movements at such an intimate scale, and sends out its law enforcement (and in Australia, its military) to harass and arrest citizens for merely moving around their neighborhoods -- you are creating the perfect hunting ground for psychopaths who have embedded themselves into the police.

It's a living.

Posted by: Aussie Strangler Cop at October 08, 2021 02:46 PM (DTX3h)

244 Was the Zodiac a Sagittarius? Would have killed people with his bow and arrow, so probably not. Likely a Scorpio.
Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:39 PM (/uaBM)

Here's an idea for a novel.

A serial killer kills his victims in a way that references each of the Zodiac signs---Sagittarius with a bow and arrow, Scorpio with a ...scorpion. For Aquarius, he drowns his victim and so on.....the TWIST is that none of the victims is killed by Cancer, but by the end of the novel, the cop investigating it dies of that disease and you never know who the killer was.....

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021 02:47 PM (mR6Gs)

245 Looking at the 7 major vaccines for 13 terrible diseases:

Adolescents saw the greatest drop, with an 85.6% decrease in vaccinations, followed by an 82.7% decrease in children ages 2 through 8. Adults also saw an 82.2% decrease in vaccination that month, while children younger than 2 years of age saw the smallest change, with a 34.9% decrease.

Chicken Pox and Measles and Mumps oh my!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 08, 2021 02:47 PM (yrol0)

246
He falsely claimed she was breaking covid curfew and arrested her. Then he drove her to a remote location, raped her, murdered her, and burned her body.

_______

See? No COVID curfew, no murder.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 08, 2021 02:47 PM (/U27+)

247 Didn't know Harmon lost his gig as Coors spokesman over the movie, but I'm not surprised. Still and all, his career rebounded pretty well over the past decades!

Posted by: Fou Troll at October 08, 2021 02:47 PM (HLwmB)

248 Are there really 300 active killers, or just one really super active one? Ten to fifteen a day kind of guy. Could be since the FBI wouldn't have a clue.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:44 PM


It's not like the fbi "experts" pegged the DC sniper as a middle aged white guy with military training, and that profile caused the local Cops to let the actual real black sniper to get away twice when he got pulled over or anything.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 08, 2021 02:47 PM (JUOKG)

249 When you want to suppress a citizenry, the first step is to distort the law to make them all criminals. This is being done now. To us.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:47 PM (/uaBM)

250 154-

It's illegal to remove a condom, but a misdemeanor to knowingly infect someone with HIV. How very California.

Posted by: Ktgreat at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (AD3JT)

251 The Investigation Discovery Channel is the best channel to watch everything you ever wanted to know about serial killers.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (NpAcC)

252 Nobody ever fell out of The Zodiac.

Posted by: Zhack Coostoe at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (L2a8p)

253 230 No love for the Laundrie case? I guess Zodiac rules!

I had a brainstorm, and I just now suggested to the authorities that they may be able to locate Laundrie by utilizing the Antikythera mechanism. It's worth a shot.
Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at October 08, 2021 02:42 PM (qpX6U)

That case is the the entire media (including Fox) going "Look! Squirrel!!!" to the American people.

Posted by: Snake Spirit at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (CdZ4i)

254 "Here's an idea for a novel."

You're giving that idea away for free?

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (qpX6U)

255 174 Gavin Brylcreem has signed new legislation making it illegal to remove a condom.

-----------

"during sex"
"stealthily"

i gave up thinking about this after a second or two. Up stroke? Down stroke? What if it comes off due to poor application? Do they both get to sue? Do people really put a condom on to have sex and then stealthily remove it during sex? If so, why?

Ok, I thought about it for more than a second or two. So many questions ....

/it's a slow afternoon

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (HeKhk)

256 249 When you want to suppress a citizenry, the first step is to distort the law to make them all criminals. This is being done now. To us.
Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:47 PM (/uaBM)

I always wanted to be an outlaw...

Posted by: Insomniac at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (II3Gr)

257 I think during the entire series, the da (hamilton Burger) got one conviction but that was reversed.

And then there was the one where Perry was charged with murder.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (4QtXQ)

258
That's right. You should check out Jim Morrison's Dad.
Hell lots of high up Naval Intel Spooks and Military lived in Laurel Canyon. Strange that the music scene popped up from there. Then there is Hollywood. And all the mind altering drugs...
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 08, 2021 02:41 PM (MSyE6)

Neil Young, Carole King, Joni Mitchell and The Monkees were "spooks?"

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021 02:49 PM (mR6Gs)

259 Save the planet by retaining your used condoms on your penis!!! It's the only way!!!!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:42 PM (k4dH2)


Pictures of sea turtles and dolphins covered with used condoms are heart breaking.

But not worse than the otters with dildos and cock rings.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 08, 2021 02:49 PM (wAnMi)

260 A serial killer kills his victims in a way that references each of the Zodiac signs---Sagittarius with a bow and arrow, Scorpio with a ...scorpion. For Aquarius, he drowns his victim and so on.....the TWIST is that none of the victims is killed by Cancer, but by the end of the novel, the cop investigating it dies of that disease and you never know who the killer was.....
Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021


***
Interesting. . . . The first part sounds like an Ellery Queen-type story, where the pattern to the crimes is the essential thing to be discovered and leads to the criminal. The ending sounds much more modern.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:49 PM (/XOcP)

261 Here's an idea for a novel.

A serial killer kills his victims in a way that references each of the Zodiac signs---Sagittarius with a bow and arrow, Scorpio with a ...scorpion. For Aquarius, he drowns his victim and so on.....the TWIST is that none of the victims is killed by Cancer, but by the end of the novel, the cop investigating it dies of that disease and you never know who the killer was.....


The murder where he has a centaur kill the victim is going to be rad.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 08, 2021 02:49 PM (QU5/8)

262 No love for the Laundrie case? I guess Zodiac rules!
Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at October 08, 2021 02:42 PM


I would bet he is renting a cheap apartment in a larger city, having food and groceries delivered, and that he has changed his appearance (wig, eyebrows) and is paying for everything with prepaid debit cards that his parents will be recharging. I doubt he is out of the country simply because his passport would leave a record.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 08, 2021 02:49 PM (EughT)

263 253 230 No love for the Laundrie case? I guess Zodiac rules!

I had a brainstorm, and I just now suggested to the authorities that they may be able to locate Laundrie by utilizing the Antikythera mechanism. It's worth a shot.
Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at October 08, 2021 02:42 PM (qpX6U)

That case is the the entire media (including Fox) going "Look! Squirrel!!!" to the American people.
Posted by: Snake Spirit at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (CdZ4i)

I am still wondering how/why a story like that blows up. The entirety of the MSM just latches on and away we go?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 08, 2021 02:49 PM (KbCG3)

264 "Here's an idea for a novel."

You're giving that idea away for free?
Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (qpX6U)

I'm too tired to attempt to write it myself.

But I do have great ideas.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021 02:50 PM (mR6Gs)

265 The Laurel Canyon stuff is just plain freaky.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at October 08, 2021 02:50 PM (mf5HN)

266 But not worse than the otters with dildos and cock rings.
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Now see I would have thought the otters got caught up in the discarded butt plugs . . . .

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:50 PM (k4dH2)

267 Gemini - kills twins
Taurus - throws victim in a pen with an angry bull
Scorpio - obvious
Pisces - piranha tank

Posted by: Insomniac at October 08, 2021 02:51 PM (II3Gr)

268 >>> Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 08, 2021 02:23 PM (MSyE6)


Did you know that the link that you provided states that Colonel Sanders is a vampire and KFC is just a cover, Jim Carrey is the head of a coven of witches in LA, and Taylor Swift may be a clone of Anton LaVey's daughter?

...It includes a lone caveat stating: (ok I realize I can't write what it says because it would be pooping all over ace's site but it basically says jews are vampires and the nazis get a bad rap, vile excrement written in all caps red bold) What the hell dude?

Posted by: banana Dream at October 08, 2021 02:51 PM (4D/dn)

269 Hamilton burger was a genius

1. Find out who pm is representing

2. Charge that fuckr with everything

3 wait foe pm to solve crime for you

Posted by: Y5 at October 08, 2021 02:51 PM (Co1m8)

270 The late Maury Terry believed the SoS killings were by a Satanic cult which was an offshoot of the Process Church of the Final Judgement:

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The Process Church is the one connected to Manson. Ed Sanders talks about that connection in The Family.

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Do they worship Soros?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 08, 2021 02:51 PM (d9FiS)

271 "That case is the the entire media (including Fox) going "Look! Squirrel!!!" to the American people."

I enjoyed the case for the first week, but now that Laundrie has successfully escaped, it's boring.

"Let's travel cross-country cooped up in a van for months! I can work on my blog, which you hate, and I can hike with you in hellish hot places, which I hate! It will be so much fun, like that Nomadland movie we saw."

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at October 08, 2021 02:51 PM (qpX6U)

272 It's much worse than "suppress"; it is always, always the same wherever it has been implemented whether Russia or Germany or Cambodia or China or Cuba or Rwanda or Yugoslavia.

Certain erhnic or religious or political groups are "otherized" or demonized in the press or academia and declared responsible for all the nations problems. What follows is outright war, or genocide. Every time.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 08, 2021 02:51 PM (RtI0W)

273
The murder where he has a centaur kill the victim is going to be rad.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 08, 2021 02:49 PM (QU5/

Fetishist

Posted by: Insomniac at October 08, 2021 02:51 PM (II3Gr)

274 It's illegal to remove a condom, but a misdemeanor to knowingly infect someone with HIV. How very California.
Posted by: Ktgreat at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (AD3JT)


Ummmmm misdemeanors are still crimes.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at October 08, 2021 02:52 PM (mf5HN)

275 That has the potential for a 12-book series.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:52 PM (/uaBM)

276 I think during the entire series, the da (hamilton Burger) got one conviction but that was reversed.

And then there was the one where Perry was charged with murder.
Posted by: jakee308 at October 08, 2021


***
Remember, though, Burger was not painted as an idiot or a blustering fool. He was a very competent man in court. In one episode, too, Perry praises a legal article he has just read, the principle in it pertaining to the case they just concluded -- and then reveals, with Burger sitting right there, that the DA was the author. In other words, he thought quite highly of his frequent adversary's abilities.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:52 PM (/XOcP)

277 I doubt he is out of the country simply because his passport would leave a record.
__________

Not if he exited across the southern border. No need for pesky records there!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:52 PM (k4dH2)

278
The murder where he has a centaur kill the victim is going to be rad.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 08, 2021 02:49 PM (QU5/


Killed by having a My Little Pony shoved half-way up their squeekhole?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2021 02:52 PM (n+4am)

279 Why not? Gloria Steinam worked for the CIA

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at October 08, 2021 02:52 PM (5HBd1)

280 The guy who played Hamilton Burger got fired from the show because he he had some kind of morals code in his contract and he went to a wild party...

Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2021 02:52 PM (CYnTg)

281 My all time favorite essay celebrating Fall:
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/its-decorative-gourd-

season-motherfuckers

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 08, 2021 02:53 PM (W2Pud)

282 I don't want to live in a world where Rick Wilson is livid.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 08, 2021 02:53 PM (mEckN)

283 I am still wondering how/why a story like that blows up. The entirety of the MSM just latches on and away we go?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 08, 2021 02:49 PM


Some guys are just unlucky I guess.

Posted by: Scott Peterson at October 08, 2021 02:53 PM (EughT)

284 The Pisces one has already been done. Jaws.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:53 PM (/uaBM)

285 274 It's illegal to remove a condom, but a misdemeanor to knowingly infect someone with HIV. How very California.
Posted by: Ktgreat at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (AD3JT)

Ummmmm misdemeanors are still crimes.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at October 08, 2021 02:52 PM (mf5HN)

True, but there's something unsettling about putting deliberately infecting someone with HIV in the same category as shoplifting or drunk and disorderly.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 08, 2021 02:53 PM (II3Gr)

286 Gemini - kills twins
Taurus - throws victim in a pen with an angry bull
Scorpio - obvious
Pisces - piranha tank
Posted by: Insomniac at October 08, 2021 02:51 PM (II3Gr)

Taurus> run over by a Ford Taurus
Capricorn> Overdose of Horny Goat Weed

Libra> killed by a Book SHELF....

Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021 02:54 PM (mR6Gs)

287 I always wanted to be an outlaw...
Posted by: Insomniac at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (II3Gr)

Only problem is that "outlaws" in the US aren't allowed to possess firearms or vote. Your name gets on a federal registry, you are prohibited from purchasing a gun or voting, and perhaps, at some point, even prohibited travel unless you report your movements to the Feds.

I wonder when the unvaccinated get billed by AG Garland in some public DOJ policy letter as "domestic terrorists", unduly terrorizing the vaccinated American populace, and therefore are hereby designated with a "felon" conviction status that prohibits all that designation comes with.

Posted by: Boswell at October 08, 2021 02:54 PM (5iUNf)

288 >>> It's illegal to remove a condom, but a misdemeanor to knowingly infect someone with HIV. How very California.
Posted by: Ktgreat at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (AD3JT)

Ummmmm misdemeanors are still crimes.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at October 08, 2021 02:52 PM (mf5HN)


It's like a mattress tag.

Posted by: banana Dream at October 08, 2021 02:54 PM (4D/dn)

289

What are thing that cobs never worry about for 100

Posted by: Y5 at October 08, 2021 02:54 PM (Co1m8)

290 A government that employes a million people is a burden that will turn against the taxpayer.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 08, 2021 02:54 PM (/hXfz)

291 283 I am still wondering how/why a story like that blows up. The entirety of the MSM just latches on and away we go?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 08, 2021 02:49 PM

Some guys are just unlucky I guess.
Posted by: Scott Peterson at October 08, 2021 02:53 PM (EughT)

I actually think he might've been.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 08, 2021 02:55 PM (KbCG3)

292 @256 Insomniac-You're fucking A right man!!! Outlaw mf'ers, FBI commie bastards can suck a fat fucking dick!!! Come and get this "right-wing" terrorist you pussies!!!

Posted by: JROD at October 08, 2021 02:55 PM (0jZnq)

293 It includes a lone caveat stating: (ok I realize I can't write what it says because it would be pooping all over ace's site but it basically says jews are vampires and the nazis get a bad rap, vile excrement written in all caps red bold) What the hell dude?

Posted by: banana Dream

In fairness, I only read the first couple of paragraphs. I figured since it was quoting Dave McGowen's books for the article that it would not say the things you said it said.
I've read his books. They don't say that. They are well researched and sourced.
Silly me for assuming....

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 08, 2021 02:55 PM (MSyE6)

294 The guy who played Hamilton Burger got fired from the show because he he had some kind of morals code in his contract and he went to a wild party...
Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2021


***
There were episodes where Perry went up against someone else, usually when he was out of town, but I thought Burger was there in the last season as well. Wasn't it that the actor was very ill with lung cancer and had to take a lot of time off? I'm not sure.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:55 PM (/XOcP)

295 267 Gemini - kills twins
Taurus - throws victim in a pen with an angry bull
Scorpio - obvious
Pisces - piranha tank
Posted by: Insomniac
__________

Virgo -- dead in bed with a smile on his face?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:55 PM (k4dH2)

296 I have a dream that Trump is in the White House again, delivers rocking jobs numbers and turns away and flips off the press.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at October 08, 2021 02:55 PM (oWBc3)

297 True, but there's something unsettling about putting deliberately infecting someone with HIV in the same category as shoplifting or drunk and disorderly.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 08, 2021 02:53 PM (II3Gr)


Agreed but it's a misdemeanor not a crime makes my eye twitch.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at October 08, 2021 02:55 PM (mf5HN)

298 The Zappa song "Plastic People" has a line -"There's this guy from the CIA and he's creeping around Laurel Canyon"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 08, 2021 02:56 PM (63Dwl)

299 How far does this have to go before none of us have anything to lose? I hear that train a'comin'.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:56 PM (/uaBM)

300 Not if he exited across the southern border. No need for pesky records there!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:52 PM


True, but there he would be quickly noticed and turned in for the reward.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 08, 2021 02:56 PM (EughT)

301 guy who played Hamilton Burger got fired from the show because he he had some kind of morals code in his contrac



What are thing that cobs never worry about for 100

Posted by: Y5 at October 08, 2021 02:56 PM (Co1m8)

302 The only proof the moon landing hoax people need is that you don't believe them. Q.E.D.

Posted by: Klaftern at October 08, 2021 02:56 PM (taPSh)

303 Nood. Doggeh!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 08, 2021 02:56 PM (m+jkK)

304 What's interesting about Manson, have to remember he was in jail or prison most of his life.

He got out in 1967, and within a year or so he's living with about 15 chicks at Dennis Wilson's house in Malibu and almost scoring record contracts. He was one hell of a con man.

If he weren't such a total lunatic, he may have become very successful. He spent a lot of time rubbing elbows with the rich and famous in the LA scene, not just Wilson. None of them want to admit it now, they were completely scared shitless over the whole ordeal. Nothing was ever the same again after Charlie.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 08, 2021 02:56 PM (RtI0W)

305 >>> I've read his books. They don't say that. They are well researched and sourced.
Silly me for assuming....
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 08, 2021 02:55 PM (MSyE6)


Alright, I can see that. It's light on quoting the book and heavy on the crazy.

Posted by: banana Dream at October 08, 2021 02:56 PM (4D/dn)

306 287 I always wanted to be an outlaw...
Posted by: Insomniac at October 08, 2021 02:48 PM (II3Gr)

Only problem is that "outlaws" in the US aren't allowed to possess firearms or vote. Your name gets on a federal registry, you are prohibited from purchasing a gun or voting, and perhaps, at some point, even prohibited travel unless you report your movements to the Feds.
...
Posted by: Boswell at October 08, 2021 02:54 PM (5iUNf)

OUT LAW

Who gives a shit about the laws if you're already determined to violate them? Felons do not have a problem getting guns unless they are dumb enough to shop themselves at gun stores.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 08, 2021 02:57 PM (XvPQV)

307 The Process Church is the one connected to Manson. Ed Sanders talks about that connection in The Family.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at October 08, 2021 02:39 PM (5HBd1)


IIRC, the Church sued Sanders over that, and he had to remove the reference to a connection. You can only find it in the original hardcover version.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 08, 2021 02:57 PM (2JVJo)

308 The guy who played Hamilton Burger got fired from the show because he he had some kind of morals code in his contract and he went to a wild party...
Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2021


***
I looked it up on IMDb; they say the same story, and that he was reinstated after a flood of fan mail and after the charges were dropped.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 02:57 PM (/XOcP)

309 What about a story where a guy kills psychics because they didn't predict he was coming?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 08, 2021 02:58 PM (r5BVk)

310 "I am still wondering how/why a story like that blows up. The entirety of the MSM just latches on and away we go?"


Don't look at us, we no longer exist.

Posted by: Journolist at October 08, 2021 02:58 PM (L2a8p)

311 It includes a lone caveat stating: (ok I realize I can't write what it says because it would be pooping all over ace's site but it basically says jews are vampires and the nazis get a bad rap, vile excrement written in all caps red bold) What the hell dude?

Posted by: banana Dream

In fairness, I only read the first couple of paragraphs. I figured since it was quoting Dave McGowen's books for the article that it would not say the things you said it said.
I've read his books. They don't say that. They are well researched and sourced.
Silly me for assuming....
Posted by: Widespread Pepe

Also in fairness, lots of resources and effort gets poured into discrediting Dave McGowen's work. So I'm not surprised it came up first on the search. lol

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 08, 2021 02:58 PM (MSyE6)

312 Some like murder. They pretend to be gentle. Pretending to be all so normal acting/ looking. Just like junior undercover fbi agents like school play.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 08, 2021 02:58 PM (aLutp)

313 I read somewhere a few years ago that the average American commits three felonies a day without even realizing it. The law is a many-faceted thing that can reach out from the dark of night and nail any of us if those in charge so desire.

Posted by: Ruthless at October 08, 2021 02:59 PM (/uaBM)

314 "I always wanted to be an outlaw..."

The sick gangsta culture of the black underclass is outlaw-worship. Can't get purer outlaw than that.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at October 08, 2021 02:59 PM (qpX6U)

315 It's OK To Be gp: "I enjoyed the case for the first week, but now that Laundrie has successfully escaped, it's boring."

He's at Oak Island. No one will ever find him.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at October 08, 2021 02:59 PM (aXxgO)

316 True, but there he would be quickly noticed and turned in for the reward.
___________

Only if he was seen and recognized. If he disguised himself and crossed in one of the many spots that are unguarded and remote, it's do-able.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:59 PM (k4dH2)

317 Here's an idea for a novel.

A serial killer kills his victims in a way that references each of the Zodiac signs---Sagittarius with a bow and arrow, Scorpio with a ...scorpion. For Aquarius, he drowns his victim and so on.....the TWIST is that none of the victims is killed by Cancer, but by the end of the novel, the cop investigating it dies of that disease and you never know who the killer was.....
Posted by: JoeF. at October 08, 2021 02:47 PM (mR6Gs)


**scribbles**

**wonders how to turn the idea into a Theda Bara book**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 08, 2021 02:59 PM (2JVJo)

318 Liz "the traitor" Cheney says no that they will enforce the subpoenas.

On Dick Wilsons thread.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 08, 2021 03:01 PM (4QtXQ)

319 Or are they really arguing that Feminine Intuition is now legal evidence?

Feminists have a long history of outright lying about rape accusations (Kavanaugh, mattress girl, Duke Lacrosse girl). Feminists also have a long history of protecting rapists (Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein).

So I'd say "feminine intuition" is a bit iffy and not exactly up to the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at October 08, 2021 03:02 PM (Do5/p)

320 Frustrated hockey player serial killer kills his victims with a razor sharp skate blade duct taped to a hockey stick and leaves Tim Horton coupons in all his victims orifices.

Posted by: Arher at October 08, 2021 03:02 PM (gmo/4)

321 I'd like to know the language durig 1776...duels and all.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 08, 2021 03:03 PM (aLutp)

322 Common Tater: "If he weren't such a total lunatic, he may have become very successful."

He could run for AG in half the country's states... and win in about ten. Soros, et al, for the win.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at October 08, 2021 03:03 PM (aXxgO)

323 Some guys are just unlucky I guess.
Posted by: Scott Peterson at October 08, 2021 02:53 PM (EughT)

I actually think he might've been.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 08, 2021 02:55 PM


He did it. Just off the top of my head: 1. Changed his alibi (golfing to fishing); 2. Didn't tell anyone about the boat; 3. Fishing with the wrong lures for out-of-season fish; 4. concrete anchors; etc

Let's put it this way. If he didn't do it, he was unluckier than the character Andy Dufresne from Shawshank.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 08, 2021 03:04 PM (EughT)

324 If he weren't such a total lunatic, he may have become very successful. He spent a lot of time rubbing elbows with the rich and famous in the LA scene, not just Wilson. None of them want to admit it now, they were completely scared shitless over the whole ordeal. Nothing was ever the same again after Charlie.
____________

Know who killed Charlie's career as a rock star? Doris Day. She knew Manson was supplying drugs and women (for sex) for Terry Melcher's parties. Doris had put up the money for Melcher's production company (he was her son). Melcher had agreed to sign Manson to a record deal, but Doris found out and told him there was no way in hell she'd let her name be associated with that sleazy pimp Manson. Melcher told Manson the deal was off, and the rest is history.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 03:04 PM (k4dH2)

325 Black Gangstas are not outlaws. Yes they don't obey the law but they're more criminal tribes than outlaws.

True outlaws have a complete separation from society/culture.

They operate without any regard for any law or law enforcement.

It's easy to see that most gangsta's are not that hard core. They stay in their hoods unless the visit some branch in another city. They only disobey a certain subset of the law and generally follow all the rest to prevent the LE hassling them. And they're located mostly in the city. True outlaws live outside of regular culture, cities, communities.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 08, 2021 03:05 PM (4QtXQ)

326 Only if he was seen and recognized. If he disguised himself and crossed in one of the many spots that are unguarded and remote, it's do-able.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 08, 2021 02:59 PM (k4dH2)


So he's a wanted gringo with a reward hanging over his head camping out in Mexico? I wouldn't be camping out there and I *don't* have a reward out on me.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 08, 2021 03:06 PM (EughT)

327 The original meaning of outlaw was those that had been condemned to be outside the law and rendered vulnerable to any person killing them on the spot with no other cause.

Sometimes conditions were placed but usually they were told they were outlaws through a proclamation and the public notified that aiding them was itself grounds for outlawing and that killing them was allowed and in fact encouraged.

Posted by: jakee308 at October 08, 2021 03:07 PM (4QtXQ)

328 "I'm an Indian outlaw -- half Cherokee and Choctaw --"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 08, 2021 03:12 PM (/XOcP)

329 It includes a lone caveat stating: (ok I realize I can't write what it says because it would be pooping all over ace's site but it basically says jews are vampires and the nazis get a bad rap, vile excrement written in all caps red bold) What the hell dude?

Posted by: banana Dream

In fairness, I only read the first couple of paragraphs. I figured since it was quoting Dave McGowen's books for the article that it would not say the things you said it said.
I've read his books. They don't say that. They are well researched and sourced.
Silly me for assuming....
Posted by: Widespread Pepe

I read it and see nothing wrong or offensive about it. I'm sorry you have never taken the time to study symbolism being used and other religions... even the mystic and esoteric ones. As I Christian, I do.
What you take issue with is Dave McGowen claims that it is Nazis doing this shit. The guy who wrote the article said he believes is Jews because of the Hollywood ties and (also Freemasonry is in their own books and words mind you is Judaism... I rather doubt the Orthodox kind tho).

You should take the time to study what others with unlimited power and resources believe.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 08, 2021 04:19 PM (RpcA/)

330 But this sort of "vibe," while it should be trusted on a personal level, cannot be given the status of legal proof by a government.

A little late, I know. But the left requires that we associate with people who we would not choose to associate with. Given that, of course they think that their own weird vibes should be proof that someone is a criminal.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 08, 2021 05:05 PM (CX3cf)

331 Sherlock Holmes would have caught the Ripper easily.
Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2021 02:27 PM (CYnTg)

Since they were in the same town at the same time, this is proof that Holmes was the ripper.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 08, 2021 05:45 PM (eoQWY)

332 Or are they really arguing that Feminine Intuition is now legal evidence?

Feminists have a long history of outright lying about rape accusations (Kavanaugh, mattress girl, Duke Lacrosse girl). Feminists also have a long history of protecting rapists (Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein).

So I'd say "feminine intuition" is a bit iffy and not exactly up to the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt".
Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at October 08, 2021 03:02 PM (Do5/p)

there is nothing at all Feminine in Feminism. Group indoctrinated zealots have a long history of persecuting the outgroup.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 08, 2021 05:48 PM (eoQWY)

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