Round And Round It Goes; Where It Stops Nobody Knows (Except For The People Who Read History)

The time is long past when the mere presence of American troops was a robust deterrent against incursions from bad actors. That deterrence ended on January 20th, 2021, when President Donald Trump left office. It is laughable and naive in the extreme to assume that any agreement made by the current administration (junta) would be honored if its domestic political expedience waned.

The experience of the last 20 years would suggest to America's allies that when the going gets tough, America leaves. Ukraine has had that bitter experience, and there is no reason to assume that the next round of incursions by the Russians would be met with anything other than fierce condemnation in the United Nations and a rapid acceptance of the new status quo.

So why would the Baltic states be any different?

America needs a permanent military presence in the Baltics, and here's why

With the Defense Department weighing whether and how to change the U.S. military footprint overseas, it’s time to make the American military presence in the Baltic states durable. Maintaining merely periodic American boots on the ground, sometimes there and sometimes not — especially while a more permanent U.S. presence takes shape in nearby Poland — sends the wrong message at the wrong time to NATO’s most vulnerable allies and to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Particularly in the wake of the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan and the concerns generated over American credibility, only a consistent U.S. military presence in each of the Baltic states can convincingly reassure allies that Washington has their back while also signaling to Putin the rock-solid American commitment to NATO. The seemingly rushed, chaotic U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan has caused some American allies in Europe to question Washington’s commitment to NATO.

NATO? That is a cruel joke. Turkey is in NATO, and has worked assiduously since Erdoğan assumed power to undermine NATO members throughout the region. Germany is a weak military power with outsized economic muscles that pursues its own (often anti-American) ambitions while being protected by American might.

A much more realistic plan might be to follow the Israeli template. Supply them with weapons and share technological advances without dedicating any American troops to their defense. We might even provide air power (but not from bases in-country) in the event of an attack, but the idea that Americans will once again bleed in defense of a foreign country is one that needs far more justification than a return to Pax Americana just months after we failed spectacularly in Afghanistan.

There is one way that a physical presence in the Baltics (and Poland) would make sense, and that is a total shift away from NATO and toward the anti-Russian (and anti-Chinese) countries in the east. Spend the money where it will do some good, leave NATO to its own devices, force Germany to contribute to its own defense, and pull out of western Europe. The many billions we spend in the economies of countries that are often our economic and political adversaries would be much better spent in countries that have a growing sense of personal, religious and political freedom, rather than the current tone of resignation, stagnation, and worst of all -- acceptance of the socialist nanny-state as the highest form of government that seems to infect most of western Europe.

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1 Morning, CBD.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 26, 2021 11:00 AM (kTF2Z)

2 I fetched em.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 26, 2021 11:01 AM (kTF2Z)

3 Now to read the content.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 26, 2021 11:01 AM (kTF2Z)

4 Hi

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 26, 2021 11:01 AM (xopIz)

5 Abolish NATO.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 26, 2021 11:01 AM (R/m4+)

6 "America needs a permanent military presence in the Baltics, and here's why"

The big guy wants his ten percent.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at September 26, 2021 11:02 AM (ACi07)

7 The Australian and New Zealand politicians scowl at the crowd when they talk about lockdowns. The criminals in their family tree seems to cause lesser harm than the jailor ancestors.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 26, 2021 11:05 AM (ybIRR)

8 Now is not a good time to be an ally who depends on the US for survival.
The US still has vital foreign interests, but this administration and the state department are genuinely too stupid to know what they are. And forget about them coherently articulating what they might be.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 26, 2021 11:05 AM (axyOa)

9 Don't we have some big caches of equipment in the Baltics? Tanks, etc? We'd never let that much hardware fall into enemy hands.



Doh!

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at September 26, 2021 11:06 AM (u1eUk)

10
America needs a permanent military presence in everywhere

The Dennis Prager Plan

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2021 11:07 AM (63Dwl)

11 We may not need SMOD.

The volcano on the Spanish island of La Palma entered a new explosive phase as an eruption intensified Friday into Saturday, according to Reuters.

"Experts" worry that this could wipe out a good portion of the east coast. Hey a guy can hope can't he?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 26, 2021 11:07 AM (iDcra)

12
OT (Breaking): Stevie Nicks auditioning to replace Danny DeVito in the Penguin role for a future "Batman" flick

https://twitter.com/BCinKW/status/
1441951302288920582

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2021 11:08 AM (pNxlR)

13 Now to read the content.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 26, 2021 11:01 AM (kTF2Z)

Amateur.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2021 11:10 AM (Q9lwr)

14 Sane leadership would make every effort to take stock and do everything possible to shore up alliances with our ever-dwindling "friends" across the globe. I really believe this was one of PDT's more clearly defined policies and I applauded him for that. Unfortunately, all of that went down the shitter seemingly overnight.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 26, 2021 11:10 AM (Xrfse)

15 I really don't know the answer to anything anymore. Everything is FUBAR.

I do know that just voting won't stop what's happening now.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 26, 2021 11:11 AM (Fs5vw)

16 Greetings:

Frau Merkel has suffered from the long pockets short arms syndrome vis-a-vis Germany's NATO dues so moving American resources east would make sense to me. The Poles seem a lot more likely to defend Europe's east than Europe's west.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 26, 2021 11:11 AM (uuklp)

17 Trump was pushing toward less direct intervention, and more tactical/tech support from above. From my limited view, we needed to keep Bagram to provide the necessary support for the Afghan army, knowing their limited abilities. But even more, keep the base for regional support against other threats.

But it is a very complex world, so I can only try to make sense of what the more America First type generals say. Auxus is the new thang for the South Pacific I guess, which must somehow fit with the Quad thing (India, Aussies/Japan/U.S.). ...

Smart people have long ago said we need more of an India/Russia/US working agreement ... not China/Pakistan/Iran?/U.S. ... But idk how that fits with U.S. backing the Baltic States ... instead of drawing the line at Poland. ... The human trafficking across the old Soviet states is run by ? the Russian mafia, or former KGB? So many rumors ... Big Guy Biden wants a cut of all that action, no doubt.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2021 11:14 AM (Cus5s)

18 Move the troops from Germany to the Baltics.

Posted by: BignJames at September 26, 2021 11:15 AM (AwYPR)

19
"Experts" worry that this could wipe out a good portion of the east coast.

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Whew! That's a relief. If these are the same kind of "experts" who worried about COVID, nothing is going to happen.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2021 11:16 AM (/U27+)

20 Abolish NATO.
Posted by: Hairyback

I don't think we can abolish it on our own; but, we could starve it by lowering our troop strength.

Of course with the current Resident in Chief this administration could pull an 'Afghani Maneuver' and pull out of all NATO bases in one night.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 26, 2021 11:16 AM (baq3E)

21 I remember seeing on one of the disaster scenario shows on discovery that La Palma has a huge geological split in the island. The west face of that split could slide off into the ocean that would cause a huge tsunami that would send a wall of water a hundred feet deep into the eastern seaboard. It could be catastrophic.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 26, 2021 11:17 AM (VNmG1)

22 Until America is aligned with us, we should not want America to have a strong military position abroad.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at September 26, 2021 11:17 AM (CVpUt)

23
Whyizzit that foreign countries can act in their own best interests while we are never supposed to act in ours?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2021 11:18 AM (/U27+)

24 Comment then read, it's the 'ron way

Posted by: Skip at September 26, 2021 11:19 AM (2JoB8)

25 ""Experts" worry that this could wipe out a good portion of the east coast. Hey a guy can hope can't he?"

ha ... I saw other reports saying that was nonsense, it was not that kind of situation at all. But then "Experts" now can sell any narrative that gets clicks, or backs anyone that pays them.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2021 11:20 AM (Cus5s)

26 The west face of that split could slide off into the ocean that would cause a huge tsunami that would send a wall of water a hundred feet deep into the eastern seaboard. It could be catastrophic.

We'd better stock up on masks. Stay safe.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at September 26, 2021 11:20 AM (Xrfse)

27
Military presence abroad should consist exclusively of Ivy League grads and their kids.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2021 11:20 AM (/U27+)

28 Whyizzit that foreign countries can act in their own best interests while we are never supposed to act in ours?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2021 11:18 AM (/U27+)

Shut up, racist.

Posted by: The Democrats at September 26, 2021 11:20 AM (Q9lwr)

29 Yeah we need to leave the deadbeat nations and only commit to those capable of honoring commitments.

The country today seems to have evolved into a place that protects the investments of the rich and pretends that this benefits all. Milley's China is a not an enemy is to some extent true, but largely because their cheap labor and high levels of pollution allow the rich to get richer while pretending to care "about the planet". I guess China is not on the planet? Such liars.

Posted by: CN at September 26, 2021 11:20 AM (ONvIw)

30 Whyizzit that foreign countries can act in their own best interests while we are never supposed to act in ours?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2021 11:18 AM (/U27+)

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Racism. Or climate change. One of those.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 26, 2021 11:20 AM (kTF2Z)

31 BTW, Turkey is 'threatening' to buy another Russian air defence missile system despite China Joe telling them to nix that. [I assume to buy a Chinese system instead!]

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 26, 2021 11:20 AM (UHVv4)

32 I remember seeing on one of the disaster scenario shows on discovery that La Palma has a huge geological split in the island. The west face of that split could slide off into the ocean that would cause a huge tsunami that would send a wall of water a hundred feet deep into the eastern seaboard. It could be catastrophic.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 26, 2021 11:17 AM (VNmG1)

I saw that one too. If somehow it could be directed to WDC, Boston, and Nuevo Yorkie (soryy JJ) we
as a nation would be better off.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 26, 2021 11:20 AM (iDcra)

33 The volcano on the Spanish island of La Palma entered a new explosive phase as an eruption intensified Friday into Saturday, according to Reuters.
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My Elephant's Child mind still wants to know how carbon 'pollution' is measured.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 26, 2021 11:21 AM (MIKMs)

34 I've read history, and what I've concluded is that we're the bad guys. Us. We don't have any "allies" in third world countries, we have victims. We take what we want, exploit the situation and leave when there's nothing left to take.
We don't have "allies" in western countries either, in many ways they're our victims too, and they're paying the price with their crumbling democracies, turning into fascist states.
Our enemies, we created. We were sold on the idea that we're the world police, and like any other corrupt police system, we brutalized and exploited the people who became our enemies, and if we'd left them alone, they'd not be our enemies today.
Even China, we created that too. We let our oligarchs go in and enrich themselves, while they hollowed out America's core industries. Now they're big and scary, and people think they're out to get us. Meanwhile, WE created this stupid virus that bouncing around the world too.

The reckoning will come, and it won't be pretty. We probably don't have the will to do it ourselves, so the world will wait until we're weak enough to strike. And strike they will. In our lifetimes or in our children's, we will pay.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2021 11:21 AM (mhN6B)

35
Comment then read, it's the 'ron way
Posted by: Skip

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Read?

*as dictated to my buxom, callipygic executive assistant*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2021 11:21 AM (/U27+)

36 And with that, I'm going to go do something useful, like sort my socks.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2021 11:21 AM (mhN6B)

37 There is absolutely zero chance that the U.S. Ruling Class will "establish a U.S. military presence in the Baltics". The U.S. Ruling Class only picks on hellhole countries in the Middle East. You know. Ones that can't fight back. Not ones like Russia.

But it is 100% guaranteed that Biden will start a new war in the Middle East before the end of his first term. I would't bet on a re-invasion of Afghanistan, but I would bet against it either.

Posted by: Wade Hampton at September 26, 2021 11:22 AM (Su9Le)

38
Racism. Or climate change. One of those.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 26, 2021 11:20 AM (kTF2Z)

"Our interests" as a nation so often conflict with those of Zuckerberg, Gates, Bezos and manufacturers whose goal is "more billions for me". The interest of average Americans in having jobs is piffling next to the need of the investor class to have more and more.

Posted by: CN at September 26, 2021 11:23 AM (ONvIw)

39 Maintaining Bagram was also for the former Afghan Air Force and not just e.g. U.S. helicopter air support.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 26, 2021 11:23 AM (UHVv4)

40 Germany is on its knees committing some efficient form of suicide.

Posted by: klaftern at September 26, 2021 11:24 AM (taPSh)

41 Germany is on its knees committing some efficient form of suicide.
Posted by: klaftern at September 26, 2021 11:24 AM (taPSh)


But. But. Oktoberfest!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 26, 2021 11:25 AM (axyOa)

42 Even China, we created that too. We let our oligarchs go in and enrich themselves, while they hollowed out America's core industries. Now they're big and scary, and people think they're out to get us. Meanwhile, WE created this stupid virus that bouncing around the world too.

The reckoning will come, and it won't be pretty. We probably don't have the will to do it ourselves, so the world will wait until we're weak enough to strike. And strike they will. In our lifetimes or in our children's, we will pay.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2021 11:21 AM (mhN6B)

We did create China, Europe chose its own weakness, and hides behind our military while stabbing us in the ankles (hat tip Alex the Chick)

Posted by: CN at September 26, 2021 11:25 AM (ONvIw)

43 @CN, speaking of caring about the planet, 70 container ships at anchor off Long Beach have a massive carbon footprint. Wonder how California factors that into their calculations.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 26, 2021 11:26 AM (OYRm4)

44 22 Until America is aligned with us, we should not want America to have a strong military position abroad.
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at September 26, 2021 11:17 AM (CVpUt)


Until the US starts realigning itself to the US Constitution, I will hold our military suspect. It's not the military that we think it is.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 26, 2021 11:26 AM (Fs5vw)

45 I have posted a few time I thought for last 50 years Leftism has wanted to destroy the US military. No idea who came up with the bug out of Afghanistan but that cemented the idea the USA wasn't going to fight for you so don't rely on them.

Posted by: Skip at September 26, 2021 11:27 AM (2JoB8)

46 And China did NOT become a democracy and I don't believe the "elites" ever believed that it would. They only wanted the riches brought buy cheap labor and no environmental concerns.

Posted by: CN at September 26, 2021 11:27 AM (ONvIw)

47 I keep telling you guys we need to go back to throwing virgins into volcanos. It worked for thousands of years and we had no global warming.

The weather gods are displeased with the sacrifices of no more coal fires or eating less meat. It's like lefties know nothing of their own religion. If we can just get them to leave a few kids undiddled for sacrifice to the weather gods, everything will be fine.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at September 26, 2021 11:29 AM (u1eUk)

48
They only wanted the riches brought buy cheap labor and no environmental concerns.
Posted by: CN at September 26, 2021 11:27 AM (ONvIw)

__________

It enhanced the bottom line and yielded higher shareholder returns. Tough luck if you're an ordinary employee.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2021 11:29 AM (/U27+)

49 If somehow it could be directed to WDC, Boston, and Nuevo Yorkie (soryy JJ) we as a nation would be better off.
Posted by: Jukin

Don't forget that the wave would concentrate up the rivers... The Potomac would be a great path for it to take!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 26, 2021 11:29 AM (baq3E)

50 The volcano on the Spanish island of La Palma entered a new explosive phase as an eruption intensified Friday into Saturday, according to Reuters.
=====

My Elephant's Child mind still wants to know how carbon 'pollution' is measured.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 26, 2021 11:21 AM


That volcano is spewing more CO2 into the atmosphere every single day than mankind has produce in 50 years. But hey, science.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 26, 2021 11:29 AM (JUOKG)

51 43 @CN, speaking of caring about the planet, 70 container ships at anchor off Long Beach have a massive carbon footprint. Wonder how California factors that into their calculations.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 26, 2021 11:26 AM (OYRm4)

We as a nation conveniently exclude the polluted mess that is China and the shipping from our calculations, otherwise people would shine a light on the coal plants of China and the less said about that the better for richie rich (wink wink)

Posted by: CN at September 26, 2021 11:29 AM (ONvIw)

52 America needs a permanent military presence in everywhere

The Dennis Prager Plan
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2021 11:07 AM (63Dwl)

Holy shit, this made me laugh harder than it should have.

Jordan Peterson interviewed Prager and Adam Carolla and...well, Carolla is a smart and thoughtful guy. It's not like he knew a great deal but he's someone who doesn't have any blinders on and is intelligent enough to make rational observations. Peterson is a thoughtful intellectual with a great sense of curiosity and likes to kick around ideas. Prager is just a cranky asshole. Don't get me wrong, cranky assholes are fine, but he struck me as the least intellectual of the bunch. Except maybe on religion. He's clearly very passionate about religion.

Posted by: Robert, Mr. Negativity - Tremonti *Marching In Time* Out NOW!!! at September 26, 2021 11:30 AM (1Yy3c)

53
It enhanced the bottom line and yielded higher shareholder returns. Tough luck if you're an ordinary employee.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2021 11:29 AM (/U27+)

Let them eat fentanyl

Posted by: CN at September 26, 2021 11:30 AM (ONvIw)

54 Via Gateway Pundit from Off Guardian some UK newspaper about covid facts, or at least things I and most others have surmised.

Gateway: https://tinyurl.com/wx2t86xx

Link to Off Guardian: https://tinyurl.com/5dumjb33

For what it is worth, it has all been lies.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 26, 2021 11:30 AM (iDcra)

55 A permanent presence? Divide general Milley into as many parts as necessary, and bury a piece of him in each Baltic state. Treasonous wormfood.
********
I saw David Brooks, he of the admiration of the pants crease of a certain stuttering clusterfuck, saying yesterday that the border fiasco is all Bribem's fault.

Say wut? Is the NY Slimes out to usher in the Kameltoe era early? Doesn't he know that Bribem is probably following TFG's orders?

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 26, 2021 11:31 AM (F0YaR)

56
I remember reading that underground coal fires in China - a completely useless waste - generated more carbon dioxide than all road traffic in the US.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2021 11:32 AM (/U27+)

57
That volcano is spewing more CO2 into the atmosphere every single day than mankind has produce in 50 years. But hey, science.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 26, 2021 11:29 AM (JUOKG)

That should kick Gates' put particles in the atmosphere shit to the curb, but I'm sure he'll think of something else to further enrich himself. Can't have the Elongated Muskrat have all the headlines!

Posted by: CN at September 26, 2021 11:32 AM (ONvIw)

58 43 @CN, speaking of caring about the planet, 70 container ships at anchor off Long Beach have a massive carbon footprint. Wonder how California factors that into their calculations.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 26, 2021 11:26 AM (OYRm4)

We as a nation conveniently exclude the polluted mess that is China and the shipping from our calculations, otherwise people would shine a light on the coal plants of China and the less said about that the better for richie rich (wink wink)

Posted by: CN at September 26, 2021 11:29 AM (ONvIw)

The deuce you say! In the time it took you two to type those posts, china opened up another coal fired power plant.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 26, 2021 11:33 AM (iDcra)

59 Or ask Poland to become eight new US states.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 26, 2021 11:33 AM (Gx82V)

60 It's getting less and less attractive being an ally of the U.S. Canada has a long history of playing the docile little brother trotting along behind on American adventures. Three years ago, we arrested a Chinese bigshot named Meng Wanzhou to oblige the Americans. The Chinese responded by kidnapping 3 Canadians in their country and holding them as hostages. Three years later, what's the upshot? The U.S. finks out, does a deal returning Meng to China, and our citizens finally get released. What was the point of the whole thing? Act tough, then cave - that seems to be the only discernible direction to American foreign policy.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at September 26, 2021 11:34 AM (RZclC)

61 20,000 more Haitians making their way to our border. The Panamanian government tracks migrant movements through the Darien Gap.

Story at PJ Media.

Posted by: four seasons at September 26, 2021 11:35 AM (oT1NJ)

62 Or ask Poland to become eight new US states.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 26, 2021 11:33 AM (Gx82V)

Well, it'll create a whole new job market for American light bulb installers.

Posted by: Robert, Mr. Negativity - Tremonti *Marching In Time* Out NOW!!! at September 26, 2021 11:35 AM (1Yy3c)

63
Or ask Poland to become eight new US states.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 26, 2021 11:33 AM (Gx82V)

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More kielbasa, golabki and pierogi! Count me in!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2021 11:35 AM (/U27+)

64 Bread and circuses. Plural circuses, singular bread.

Posted by: klaftern at September 26, 2021 11:35 AM (taPSh)

65 @ezralevant
23 of the 25 cities with the highest emissions are in China. Why don't @GretaThunberg or @Greenpeace ever campaign there?

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/
1415302176692396032

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 26, 2021 11:36 AM (UHVv4)

66 For what it is worth, it has all been lies.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 26, 2021 11:30 AM (iDcra)

Coronaviruses have been around a long time, and all the ugly sequelae of covid are also found in rough influenza seasons (for which we will all be swathed in masks). It was the very dramatic launch that was enjoyed by covid: the disinfecting of the streets in Wuhan by people in hazmat suits, the stories of corpses littering the streets like the plague. But I think the disinfecting pictures effectively set the stage for panic.

Posted by: CN at September 26, 2021 11:37 AM (ONvIw)

67 Kerry went to China to talk about the climate. The Chinese gave him a wedgie. However, they didn't stuff him in a locker so Kerry counted that as a win.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 26, 2021 11:38 AM (kTF2Z)

68 Because they are cowards. They know they would vanish into Chinese reeducation camps.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 26, 2021 11:38 AM (Gx82V)

69 Dailytimewaster.blogspot.com has put up a few shot videos of the island volcano

Posted by: Skip at September 26, 2021 11:39 AM (2JoB8)

70
The deuce you say! In the time it took you two to type those posts, china opened up another coal fired power plant.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 26, 2021 11:33 AM (iDcra)

Shut up, you peasant!

Posted by: Zuck and Bezos and the rest of the richie rich boys in the band at September 26, 2021 11:39 AM (ONvIw)

71
That FlexSeal guy needs to get to that island pronto.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2021 11:40 AM (/U27+)

72 andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 26, 2021 11:36 AM (UHVv4)

Great link, thanks

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 26, 2021 11:41 AM (iDcra)

73 If Biden went over to that island, it would be a real life Joe VS The Volcano. Joe definitely has a brain cloud.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 26, 2021 11:42 AM (kTF2Z)

74 My Bogie the terrier is running in circles with his leash, so I think he needs another two miles.

See you layer, maybe, but if not next Saturday when I will fill you in on all the thrilling details of Ronna and the Rinos.

Posted by: CN at September 26, 2021 11:42 AM (ONvIw)

75 Dailytimewaster.blogspot.com
Posted by: Skip at September 26, 2021 11:39 AM (2JoB

This site is evil.

*Puts on another pot of coffee*

Posted by: Robert, Mr. Negativity - Tremonti *Marching In Time* Out NOW!!! at September 26, 2021 11:43 AM (1Yy3c)

76 let the people who want a US military presence in (fill in the blank) *be* the military presence there... or their kids and relatives.

i believe red America has had enough of being maimed or dying for the delusions of those who despise them. i certainly question the wisdom of the 21 years i spent in uniform.

if i can't have my country back, i'd at least like to have my health. instead, the VA insists that all my ortho injuries are NOT service related, but rather from arthritis caused by ulcerative colitis...

how convenient for the bastards.

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at September 26, 2021 11:43 AM (vz1Pi)

77 Kerry went to China to talk about the climate. The Chinese gave him a wedgie. However, they didn't stuff him in a locker so Kerry counted that as a win.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 26, 2021 11:38 AM (kTF2Z)

Xi Jinping was overheard saying "John Kerry has very soft mouth."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 26, 2021 11:44 AM (iDcra)

78 Can't remember who I saw Ronna And The Rinos open for, but the show was a failure.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 26, 2021 11:44 AM (kTF2Z)

79 Xi Jinping was overheard saying "John Kerry has very soft mouth."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 26, 2021 11:44 AM (iDcra)

Purty, too.

Posted by: BignJames at September 26, 2021 11:46 AM (AwYPR)

80 It was the very dramatic launch that was enjoyed by covid: the disinfecting of the streets in Wuhan by people in hazmat suits, the stories of corpses littering the streets like the plague. But I think the disinfecting pictures effectively set the stage for panic.
Posted by: CN at September 26, 2021 11:37 AM (ONvIw


All coordinated by the US deep state and the Chicoms to get rid of Trump. It's been a scam since day one. And anyone that thinks that the Coof has anything to do with disease, medicine, or science is a fool of the highest order.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 26, 2021 11:47 AM (Fs5vw)

81
20,000 more Haitians making their way to our border. The Panamanian government tracks migrant movements through the Darien Gap.

There's our permanent presence in the Baltics!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2021 11:47 AM (63Dwl)

82 Here's some zoomy porn.

https://tinyurl.com/FighterpornF117

Posted by: Robert, Mr. Negativity - Tremonti *Marching In Time* Out NOW!!! at September 26, 2021 11:49 AM (1Yy3c)

83 A doctor who is Following actual science , not THE Science:

https://tinyurl.com/bbkev85c

Posted by: LASue at September 26, 2021 11:49 AM (Ed8Zd)

84 20,000 more Haitians making their way to our border

Let them in! Voodoo H8 has no home here! *hic*

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at September 26, 2021 11:49 AM (Xrfse)

85 If the US is in the Baltics then the next evolution is that Russia invades like they wanted to do in the 90's and the USSR is essentially back up and running again

Posted by: Kindltot at September 26, 2021 11:49 AM (KbLYZ)

86 75 Why? CW is a good Trump guy

Posted by: Skip at September 26, 2021 11:49 AM (2JoB8)

87 And the WWF or whoever is spending a pile of dough crying about the rhinos never mentions China.

The only problem rhinoceroses have is caused by China. A highly advanced, obnoxiously superstitious bunch, the Chinese.

Posted by: klaftern at September 26, 2021 11:50 AM (taPSh)

88 Here's some zoomy porn.

https://tinyurl.com/FighterpornF117

Posted by: Robert, Mr. Negativity - Tremonti *Marching In Time* Out NOW!!! at September 26, 2021 11:49 AM (1Yy3c)

New military doctrine requires the USA to give plans of such leaps in warfare technology to our enemies.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 26, 2021 11:50 AM (iDcra)

89 With NATO handling so much of Europe's defense, getting lectured by a European on anything just sounds like being scolded by a kid who lives in his parents' basement.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 26, 2021 11:52 AM (vuisn)

90 A doctor who is Following actual science , not THE Science:
https://tinyurl.com/bbkev85c

Posted by: LASue at September 26, 2021 11:49 AM (Ed8Zd)


I hope she doesn't ride a bike or jog, it seems getting struck by a drunk hit and run driver is more contagious nowadays than suicide in jail or being mugged in DC

Posted by: Kindltot at September 26, 2021 11:52 AM (KbLYZ)

91 Instead of a grand alliance with all of western Europe, we should pursue bilateral treaties only with individual countries of interest, as we do in the Pacific. Maintaining a multi-party alliance is a pain in the ass, and no longer worth the bother.

Posted by: Occasional Commenter at September 26, 2021 11:54 AM (GXBIW)

92 Russia has a very robust footprint in Kaliningrad, smack dab in the middle of the "Baltics." I've no idea what would be accomplished by having a US presence there other than antagonizing the Russians. US troops would be exposed. The airspace for hundreds of miles is covered by a pretty sophisticated Russian IADS (integrated air defense system) that forms a huge umbrella in the area. Other than Poland, the Baltic states are of questionable readiness and willingness to fight the Russian bear.

The junta's actions in Afghanistan must have given pause to any current or future ally. IMO basing US troops in the Baltics is a fools errand.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 26, 2021 11:54 AM (BFigT)

93 Round And Round It Goes; Where It Stops Nobody Knows

*****

Pondering the Soft Men lead to Difficult Times meme, a slightly different formulation occurred to me, and I am certain that this is not original, but...

Prosperity leads to boredom
Boredom leads to despair
Despair leads to nihilism
Nihilism leads to hunger
Hunger leads to hope
Hope leads to optimism
Optimism leads to prosperity

Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2021 11:54 AM (Xwt96)

94 You're welcome, Jukin. I bookmarked it the X number of months ago for that very reason.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 26, 2021 11:54 AM (UHVv4)

95 Now is not a good time to be an ally who depends on the US for survival.

A Democrat administration will always - always sell out allies. A Repub, not so much.

It has always baffled me that a GOP nominee doesn't hammer that point home again and again - if you are an ally of the United States, this Democrat next to me will be the first to put a knife in your back.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 26, 2021 11:55 AM (2JVJo)

96 It has always baffled me that a GOP nominee doesn't hammer that point home again and again - if you are an ally of the United States, this Democrat next to me will be the first to put a knife in your back.

Why it almost like they don't want to win or maybe, just maybe are playing for the same team.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 26, 2021 11:57 AM (iDcra)

97 That FlexSeal guy needs to get to that island pronto.

****

You might even say, "Swiftly!"

Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2021 11:59 AM (Xwt96)

98 vHe could Phil up the volcano

Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2021 11:59 AM (Xwt96)

99 maybe, just maybe are playing for the same team

That seems to be more and more evident ever day.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 26, 2021 12:00 PM (Xrfse)

100 Haha, I love this name for biden, Jo Chi Min.

Just saw it at The Feral Irishman site.

Posted by: four seasons at September 26, 2021 12:00 PM (oT1NJ)

101 NATO needs to be tossed into the dustbin of cold war history. And the useless UN needs to be moved to Cameroon.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 26, 2021 12:01 PM (stUc+)

102
Prosperity leads to boredom
Boredom leads to despair
Despair leads to nihilism
Nihilism leads to hunger
Hunger leads to hope
Hope leads to optimism
Optimism leads to prosperity
Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2021 11:54 AM (Xwt96)


Nothing is permanent in God's creation.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 26, 2021 12:03 PM (Fs5vw)

103 Like Poland, the Baltic states are pretty cool. They love America and they pay their two percent into NATO. It aggravates me greatly that these worthy peoples are located between RussiaRussiaRussia and the raging pussies in Western Europe.

Anyway, giving them guns and tech might work. The Baltics have long had a plan to retreat to the mountains in case of invasion and fight a guerrilla war. Students of history will note that they did exactly that during the Soviet era, and the Forest Brothers were a thorn in their side for over a decade.

Posted by: CppThis at September 26, 2021 12:05 PM (UewuT)

104

Did you know that the big cities don't have much say in how this country is governed? That's what the AP says anyway.

"NEW YORK (AP) - As political muscle goes, bigger doesn't always mean better. Just ask New York, Los Angeles and Chicago every four years, when those cities become mostly irrelevant blips on the Electoral College map.

But as congressional redistricting gets underway, some of the country's most populous cities are taking prominent roles in reshaping the balance of power in Washington. And that's good news for Democrats."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2021 12:05 PM (63Dwl)

105 101 NATO needs to be tossed into the dustbin of cold war history. And the useless UN needs to be moved to Cameroon.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 26, 2021 12:01 PM (stUc+)


I've heard that a lot of vacancies have opened up in Gitmo.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 26, 2021 12:05 PM (Fs5vw)

106 And that's good news for Democrats.

So really bad news for America and Western Civilization.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 26, 2021 12:08 PM (iDcra)

107 "I've heard that a lot of vacancies have opened up in Gitmo."

The Taliban guys we had there were traded by Obama for 1 lousy US deserter and are now running things in Afghanistan.

Posted by: casual obseerver 0926 at September 26, 2021 12:08 PM (aAP3z)

108 Russia and by extension Putin aren't buddies. But, they aren't mortal enemies. Instead of letting the neocons run around crying about the Russians or the new Soviets, maybe looking at reality would be helpful. Ukraine is the equivalent of Mexico to us. Maybe us playing in Ukraine doesn't make sense. You know all of those countries right on the border of Russia? Yeah, you're screwed. You've been screwed by geography. Coming to some arrangement with Russia is your best bet. Same with anyone else if we actually had the will to exert our influence in Central and South America.

Posted by: WiNO at September 26, 2021 12:08 PM (EpDzw)

109 Don't forget that little slice of Russia tucked in there.

Also, the Estonians never really left the Western cultural orbit throughout the period of the Soviet occupation because they received and watched Finnish television. They knew what was going on in the world when the rest of the captive nations didn't.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 26, 2021 12:08 PM (EZebt)

110 I agree 100% that Ukraine is not and never was in our sphere of influence. That one started with Merkel (who is a lesbian East German shot putter) flexing her nuts and then hiding behind America when Russia flexed back, but I suspect our continued involvement is because some of our crooked overlords went over there on fact finding missions and discovered all sorts of glorious corruption opportunities.

Posted by: CppThis at September 26, 2021 12:12 PM (UewuT)

111 The reckoning will come, and it won't be pretty. We probably don't have the will to do it ourselves, so the world will wait until we're weak enough to strike. And strike they will. In our lifetimes or in our children's, we will pay.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2021 11:21 AM (mhN6B)


Could be happening now, directed from within.

Posted by: Javems at September 26, 2021 12:12 PM (AmoqO)

112 if you are blue on American fortunes, turn on the Ryder Cup. Sure it is a blow out and not that exiting, but it is fun to see 50,000 people cheering for the USA.

I think it can go a bit far as all these euros would be Repubs if they could. I remember when they actually traveled from Europe and the UK (not Europe) and looked at each other funny.

Anyway, it is basically a party on the shores of lake Michigan at this point. The question now is how loud and distracting the fans can be. In 2021, the Euros are lucky it is in Wisconsin. If this were Bethpage, oh Lord!

Posted by: Quint at September 26, 2021 12:13 PM (kmK04)

113 Not a fan of expanded US commitments overseas, but shuffling the chess pieces might be worthwhile. The Balkans could be a blocking movement to Turkey and the migration through them. And a strategic placement on the Black Sea.

Posted by: LottaNerve at September 26, 2021 12:13 PM (JdcHc)

114 Welp, if the leftards can't destroy America through Fraudulent Elections, they'll do it with -

straight up terrorism, murder, and violence.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/475846/#respond

Coming soon to a future near you!

Posted by: naturalfake at September 26, 2021 12:13 PM (Xo5lP)

115 h/t Martini Farmer

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 26, 2021 12:16 PM (EZebt)

116 Welp, if the leftards can't destroy America through Fraudulent Elections, they'll do it with -

straight up terrorism, murder, and violence.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/475846/#respond

Coming soon to a future near you!
Posted by: naturalfake at September 26, 2021 12:13 PM (Xo5lP)
***

Not to mention flat out invasion.
Mayorkas lied again to America and now admits thousands of Hatians were released into the US.
I hope several thouseand get to Seattle and Portland. At least they will feel at home there where shitting in the streets is normal.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 26, 2021 12:18 PM (axyOa)

117 I hope several thouseand get to Seattle and Portland. At least they will feel at home there where shitting in the streets is normal.
Posted by: Diogenes

Or working for the EPA.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 26, 2021 12:20 PM (mD/uy)

118 What a flipping mess. I just can't understand the left. They are evil.

Posted by: Infidel at September 26, 2021 12:23 PM (Kx3kq)

119 Don't know about the other Baltics, but Latvia is something like 50% ethnic Russian. It's a complication

Posted by: Doctor Ignoramus at September 26, 2021 12:24 PM (ZHVt1)

120 Amnesty for 11-30 million illegals in the Build Back bill, we are hurtling toward oblivion for America.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at September 26, 2021 12:27 PM (QZ/dC)

121 NATO needs to be tossed into the dustbin of cold war history. And the useless UN needs to be moved to Cameroon.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 26, 2021 12:01 PM (stUc+)

I vote for Haiti.

Posted by: BifBewalski @(VcFUs) at September 26, 2021 12:28 PM (VcFUs)

122
Shifting US focus to E Europe has many parallels with French history with NATO. When that pompous scarecrow De Gaulle pulled France out of NATO in the 60s, he realized that France could get all the security they needed from Soviet invasion, without any of the responsibility to lift a finger to defend anyone else in Europe, simply as a consequence of geography.

Despite their public apprehension, NATO is probably loving the new unilateral US focus on E Europe, since they don't need to vastly expand their defense spending to benefit from E Europe seeking to defend themselves.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 26, 2021 12:29 PM (SGSj1)

123 The experience of the last 20 years

Think you need a longer memory, everything from Yalta to Beirut 1983 fit that category.

Sometimes America's just not all that into you.

Posted by: JEM at September 26, 2021 12:29 PM (8erNz)

124 Despite their public apprehension, NATO is probably loving the new unilateral US focus on E Europe, since they don't need to vastly expand their defense spending to benefit from E Europe seeking to defend themselves.

The Soviets used to have their 'near abroad' - DDR, Poland, CZ, etc. - as their buffer against the West.

Now it's the Western Europeans who have a 'near abroad'.

Posted by: JEM at September 26, 2021 12:31 PM (8erNz)

125 America needs a permanent military presence in everywhere

Why? America is dead. Caput. Gone. Finished.

What remains is Communist China Lite with all the threats of going full Mao/Stalin genocide Communist.

Other than fellow dictators and those on the take, what fruit is in having the most bankrupt country on earth use the most useless military on earth to occupy nations that are freer and have more liberty than the former United States?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 26, 2021 12:31 PM (+LCoQ)

126 parts of this country are already there. At this point you need to be making bank or see your civilization destroyed. I visited Nova and to be honest, it was a civilization destroyed. I sometimes go off half cocked. I sometimes say things I wish I could take back. But when I see these blue areas, particularly Nova, it is a civilization destroyed. I wont be taking that one back.

Posted by: Quint at September 26, 2021 12:31 PM (kmK04)

127 The Ryder Cup is fake nationalism and edited sound - a competition with Europe, in golf for heaven's sake. Give me strength.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at September 26, 2021 12:33 PM (QZ/dC)

128 As a service member I'm all for military presence everywhere. Provided the junior enlisted get to pick the locations. I am TIRED of going to third world $hitholes. Enough with the Middle East, Africa, Korea. I want to do deployments to places with nice beaches (Mogadishu does NOT count), good beer and friendly (and pretty) natives who are glad to see us. So far, only the Philippines have come close to meeting that definition. Let all the think tank dillholes and their theories go to the $hitholes and try to implement their ideas.

Posted by: Stacy0311 at September 26, 2021 12:35 PM (SqpTW)

129 Pelosi wants to pass both infrastructure bills and raise the debt ceiling this week. The fate of the Republic hangs in the balance.

Posted by: Doctor Ignoramus at September 26, 2021 12:35 PM (ZHVt1)

130 Welp, if the leftards can't destroy America through Fraudulent Elections, they'll do it with -

straight up terrorism, murder, and violence.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/475846/#respond
***

Patience. This is to be next Summer's main focus for the news. Evil Industry destroying Mother Gaia, etc.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 26, 2021 12:36 PM (axyOa)

131 NBC is doing a bad job. But if you know the history, the Euros would give their life to win the Ryder Cup. The Spanish teams were and are amazing. There are others for sure.

I love it when people say the Ryder Cup doesn't mean anything. So why did fifty thousand in the middle of nowhere show up three days in a row? I dont' need to defend the Ryder Cup. To be honest you would not want me to defend it. I recall when I bought in at it became the best event in sport. It was 1989. I think we tied, so you know I didn't make up that date. It ended in a freaking tie.

Posted by: Quint at September 26, 2021 12:37 PM (kmK04)

132 I want to do deployments to places with nice beaches

Yes.

Posted by: Swedish Bikini Team at September 26, 2021 12:37 PM (Xrfse)

133 I just checked into the CSPN book channel. One show notes the Lit Fest they're covering is held in-person. I guess the virus has won.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 26, 2021 12:39 PM (d9FiS)

134 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0jZbTudP28

Posted by: Quint at September 26, 2021 12:39 PM (kmK04)

135 So my liberal friends are touting the Arizona audit as proof there was no fraud in the election. Not only did Biden win, he won even more than before! says they. No hint of the fraud being even more prevelant than before.
Thats fine.
The Dems will ramrod their budget and use the 200,000 diseased Hatian and Afghani settlers as their enforcement tool for those districts who dare challenge them. They will bring in half a million more next year.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 26, 2021 12:40 PM (axyOa)

136 #twoweeks

Posted by: Arizona Audit at September 26, 2021 12:42 PM (Xrfse)

137 Occupy Hawaii!!

Posted by: runner at September 26, 2021 12:43 PM (mzTVj)

138 I thought they found thousands of fraudulent votes?

Posted by: Infidel at September 26, 2021 12:44 PM (Kx3kq)

139 I just can't understand the left. They are evil.
Posted by: Infidel

No, my Dear, you do understand the left.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 26, 2021 12:45 PM (mD/uy)

140 I thought they found thousands of fraudulent votes?

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Posted by: The Military-Industrial-Media Complex at September 26, 2021 12:46 PM (Xrfse)

141 The EU is talking about forming a Army. LOL.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 26, 2021 12:47 PM (xopIz)

142
#twoweeks

Posted by: Arizona Audit at September 26, 2021 12:42 PM


I know. WTF * 1,000,000,000,000

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at September 26, 2021 12:47 PM (dQvv7)

143 Anyone have a minute to pray real quick? Rev is in the middle of an exorcism and he called me to say he's in a tough spot. Any spiritual help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 26, 2021 12:47 PM (45fpk)

144 just can't understand the left. They are evil.
Posted by: Infidel

No, my Dear, you do understand the left.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 26, 2021 12:45 PM (mD/uy)

both of you are greats here. And that interaction is spot on. Not a wasted word.

Posted by: Quint at September 26, 2021 12:47 PM (kmK04)

145 Kerry went to China to talk about the climate.

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John Kerry Brushes Off Question About China's Uyghur Genocide: 'Life Is Always Full Of Tough Choices'

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It's compercated!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 26, 2021 12:47 PM (d9FiS)

146 Done, grammie

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 26, 2021 12:48 PM (U2p+3)

147 Thanks nurse.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 26, 2021 12:49 PM (45fpk)

148 The EU is talking about forming a Army. LOL.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 26, 2021 12:47 PM (xopIz)

The worm Chirac and the (whatever is worse than a worm) Schroeder planned that same absurdity. I say flank them with the Poles, Czechs, Finns, etc if they are so dainty.

Posted by: Quint at September 26, 2021 12:50 PM (kmK04)

149 I thought they found thousands of fraudulent votes?

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They prefer to think of it like the miracle of the loaves and fishes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 26, 2021 12:50 PM (d9FiS)

150 138 I thought they found thousands of fraudulent votes?
Posted by: Infidel at September 26, 2021 12:44 PM (Kx3kq)


They did. The media, being the enemy of the people that they are, are deliberately conflating a recount with an audit and leftards are happily repeating the lie. There's now a push for decertification of AZ electors as a result of the audit.

Razorfist has been keeping up with this on Twatter.
twitter.com/RAZ0RFIST

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 26, 2021 12:51 PM (DTX3h)

151
Kerry went to China to talk about the climate.

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John Kerry Brushes Off Question About China's Uyghur Genocide: 'Life Is Always Full Of Tough Choices'


But those choices can't include coal, nuclear or natural gas.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2021 12:52 PM (63Dwl)

152 The Democrats
@TheDemocrats
Today, on Gold Star Mother's and Family's Day, we recognize the courage and sacrifice of the mothers and families who have lost a child in the service to our nation. We honor them and their loved ones today and every day.

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Who you gonna believe, the Democrats or your lying eyes?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 26, 2021 12:54 PM (d9FiS)

153 US troops in Poland, Baltic States, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Great Britain and Israel. In the Pacific Australia, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan.
Remove them everywhere else and make it known that any attack on our forces means nukes are flying. Also we should start helping India more.

NATO ended being needed when the USSR collapsed.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at September 26, 2021 12:54 PM (QMwOT)

154 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDtR0lsOnxw

Posted by: Quint at September 26, 2021 12:57 PM (kmK04)

155 Of course Grammie.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 26, 2021 12:57 PM (mD/uy)

156 >>>Anyway, it is basically a party on the shores of lake Michigan at this point. The question now is how loud and distracting the fans can be. In 2021, the Euros are lucky it is in Wisconsin. If this were Bethpage, oh Lord!
Posted by: Quint at September 26, 2021 12:13 PM (kmK04)

=======

I was lucky enough to get to play whistling straits 20 years ago. $200/round at that time. Caddie said we'd be walking 7 miles that day. Ever since I've always had a love for links style courses.

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 26, 2021 12:58 PM (8TpiG)

157 NATO ended being needed when the USSR collapsed.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at September 26, 2021 12:54 PM (QMwOT)

And it became a jobs program for our defense industry plus half of western Europe.

Posted by: The Democrats at September 26, 2021 12:58 PM (Q9lwr)

158 Gateway Pundit from Off Guardian some UK newspaper about covid facts, or at least things I and most others have surmised.

Gateway: https://tinyurl.com/wx2t86xx

Link to Off Guardian: https://tinyurl.com/5dumjb33

For what it is worth, it has all been lies.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable

And now I feel even guiltier for sending Hubbysharn to the hospital. I'm sure the hospital got $$$$ for another covid death.

Posted by: Rosasharn at September 26, 2021 12:58 PM (PzBTm)

159 "Until the US starts realigning itself to the US Constitution, I will hold our military suspect. It's not the military that we think it is."

They're purging everyone who won't take the vaccine. Because they want to purge Republicans.

Apply "Kendi Logic" to the situation. Anything that disproportionately affects Republicans is party-ist. It's intentional bigotry designed to oppress us. The only thing that matters is whether a public policy oppresses us or not. Anyone who promotes policies of oppression is an oppressor and is LITERALLY doing violence to us. Treat such people accordingly.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at September 26, 2021 12:59 PM (CVpUt)

160 "I am TIRED of going to third world $hitholes. Enough with the Middle East, Africa, Korea."

yes, but we are still The Superpower ... and battles now are in tech and finance. Power can be exerted/extended in multiple ways, though a military is still necessary.

Jim Rogers (investor guy) thinks the opening of North and South Korea will come soon (not unification, but trade opening I think). But he says US and Japan oppose it, because we want our bases their (as a front against Russia) and Japan (Rogers says) can't compete economically.

idk, but the War is now maybe won or lost with military as the last stand .. though the surrender at Bagram indicates the oligarchs are sending a message that we won't fight. kinda hard to read all the tea leaves, since they lie on every front.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2021 01:01 PM (Cus5s)

161 Jesse Romero says that during a tough exorcism, you have to pray the Hail Mary in Latin. She arrives as a ninja weighing in a 1,000,000 pounds. One demon screamed "Get her off of me!"

Ave Maria, gratia plena. Dominus tecum. Benedictus tu in mulierubus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iejus.

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 26, 2021 01:01 PM (xopIz)

162 Thank you Tonypete and JAS. Very much.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 26, 2021 01:03 PM (45fpk)

163 Anyone who thinks the Ryder Cup isn't a Big Damn Deal has clearly never lived five miles away from the event.

It was kind of surreal, actually...massive traffic all around Minneapolis (like the Super Bowl, the total draw is like 500K because of all the hangers-on) and no hotel rooms to be had in a 200 mile radius but because of the shuttle points set up across town when I'd drive home along the highway leading to the Hazeltine National course it was just me and a few buses and limos.

Posted by: CppThis at September 26, 2021 01:04 PM (UewuT)

164 N. Korea Deploys Military to Farms To Kill Food Thieves on Sight as Starvation Deaths Rise

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Today North Korea, Tomorrow North America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 26, 2021 01:04 PM (d9FiS)

165 Latin is effective because it is one of the three languages written above the cross of Jesus. INRI

Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 26, 2021 01:05 PM (xopIz)

166 Prayer said grammie.

Posted by: Infidel at September 26, 2021 01:08 PM (Kx3kq)

167 A doctor who is Following actual science , not THE Science:

https://tinyurl.com/bbkev85c

Posted by: LASue at September 26, 2021 11:49 AM


Pretty powerful arguments. Injecting an antifreeze into the body that will cause blood clots over time. Sign me up!

Seriously, read this, skip over or speed read the beginning.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at September 26, 2021 01:08 PM (dQvv7)

168 And now I feel even guiltier for sending Hubbysharn to the hospital. I'm sure the hospital got $$$$ for another covid death.
Posted by: Rosasharn at September 26, 2021 12:58 PM (PzBTm)

Please don't feel that way.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 26, 2021 01:17 PM (mR6Gs)

169 I was lucky enough to get to play whistling straits 20 years ago. $200/round at that time. Caddie said we'd be walking 7 miles that day. Ever since I've always had a love for links style courses.

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 26, 2021 12:58 PM (8TpiG)

I do too.My dream is to play some of the places in Europe. I have played some links courses in the USA but that is about it. No much how I love golf, I never brought my sticks to Europe. I was after different things. Looking back,I wish I brought my sticks. Then again, in many ways I dont because it wasn't about golf.

I played golf once in Europe,it was in the south of Spain. It was an amazing course and an amazing experience. I played with rented clubs but the guy gave me his own clubs. The course was absurdly great. I could mention details you wont see at the average round in the USA.

Posted by: Quint at September 26, 2021 01:22 PM (kmK04)

170 Precious in the eyes of the Lord are the deaths of His faithful ones.

And if he was not faithful, pray for him a lot. Especially at 3:00pm, when Jesus is most merciful. Find yourself a copy of the Divine Mercy chaplet.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 26, 2021 01:24 PM (xopIz)

171 There is a links-style course east of San Diego. I also played the "Course at Squaw Valley."

No thank you. I am not good enough.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 26, 2021 01:26 PM (xopIz)

172 I agree completely

Posted by: Jack at September 26, 2021 01:32 PM (yF/6i)

173 Done, grammie
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 26, 2021 12:48 PM


For you both.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2021 01:32 PM (a3Q+t)

174 Greetings:

Anthrogenic Global Climate Warmong Change Question of the Day:

What's your understanding of the Tibetan Plateau's effect ???

Posted by: 11B40 at September 26, 2021 01:38 PM (uuklp)

175 There is a line between actions that assure allies and those that provoke adversaries. Bringing the Baltic states into NATO was a strategic blunder...why double down by placing US forces in those states? A Russian motorized force can make the drive from Narva, Estonia -- on the Russian Border-- to Tallinn in a less than 4 hours. Try to overcome that geography with minimal warning. My peeve with policy suggestions such as this -- along with those advocating NATO membership for the Ukraine -- is that there has been no post-Cold War architecture put in place that doesn't feed Russia's historical paranoia. After WWII we got the UN, the Marshall Plan, NATO, etc In 1989, following the collapse of our major international competitor what grand mechanism was put into place? NATO expansion! Talk about sustaining an illusion of visionary statecraft... I'm going back to my guns and my books now.

Posted by: pilsnerfan at September 26, 2021 02:10 PM (CHorZ)

176 "There is one way that a physical presence in the Baltics (and Poland) would make sense, and that is a total shift away from NATO and toward the anti-Russian (and anti-Chinese) countries in the east."

So a new alliance, based on a Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance perhaps, with those countries.
Poland would make an excellent base, with Warsaw as the headquarters.
But what to call this defensive coalition of eastern European countries with a super-power patron? "TFCMA" is way too clunky, and "East European Treaty Organization" would be "EETO", which is too screechy. We need some short, to the point, geographical name.
Hmm . . .
Oh well, I am sure something will come to mind for this grand military pact based in Warsaw.

Posted by: Sam at September 26, 2021 02:30 PM (ohyxL)

177 grammie, did Rev fast beforehand? You know. Some demons require that you fast.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 26, 2021 02:30 PM (xopIz)

178 pilsnerfan @175 nailed it. Problem with a Baltic Guarantee is logistics. Supply lines are far too tenuous if you can't count on western NATO states to help keep 'em open.

Of course, the people who make money from putting American lives in harm's way (Raytheon, LockMart, NorGrum, BAE, United Tech et al) will make out like bandits, as usual. Smedley Butler (War Is a Racket) was a Pollyanna.

Posted by: Rowsdower Persists in Insisting Ashli Babbitt Is Crispus Attucks at September 26, 2021 04:27 PM (hzaX9)

179 All men yearn to breathe free. American empire, baby. Foreign entanglements. What we need is more opportunities for foreign and military aid to enrich corrupt pols both at home and abroad.

Posted by: Lawrence L at September 26, 2021 06:31 PM (FAuXd)

180 The notion that the guy who abandoned the Kurds, negotiated the surrender of Afghanistan without having the Afghan govt. sign off, and met twice with the world's most tinpot dictator which served to legitimize said tinpot while receiving no benefit in return, somehow personified robust deterrence borders on delusion.

Early on, he was laughed at by the General Assembly to his face, and later, behind his back, by allied leaders gathered at the G7. He even publicly took the word of a virtual dictator over the proof gathered by his own intelligence agencies. By the end, everyone was doubtless afraid, fearing that he'd lost his mind over losing an election, and they required assurances that, no, this lame duck would not be permitted to go anywhere near the nuclear suitcase in his last weeks in office.

Putin won't invade the Baltics because they are NATO members and that would invoke Article 5. But, sure, let's transplant all of our well-established assets from those prosperous states, cramming them into 3 small, peripheral countries, and see how our fighting a Russian invasion (that won't come either) on our own works.

Posted by: The Dweller Ysul at September 27, 2021 04:31 AM (vePb3)

181 We should cut our general officer and admiral positions by 50%. Then form an infantry battalion with the excess and station it on the Estonian/Russian border. Let those bastards be the new Berlin Brigade.

Posted by: KenW at September 27, 2021 05:04 AM (vyV2y)

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