To Counter Blue State EV Mandates, Red States Need To Start Mandating Gas-Powered Cars

The internal combustion engine is the engine of freedom. Gasoline-powered cars with internal combustion engines are the conveyances of liberty. You can drive 1,000 miles in a day if you desire, refueling whenever and wherever you like in a just a matter of minutes. The left wishes to deny you that freedom, and the two biggest blue states, California and New York, have now banned the sale of gas-powered cars by no later than 2035. Only the sale of “emission free” electric vehicles (“EVs” will be allowed.

It is imperative that Texas, other oil-patch states, and all freedom-loving states (hello Florida) start fighting back. If New York can pass a law mandating that 100% of all new vehicle sales are EVs, then Texas (and Florida, and Tennessee, and Louisiana, etc) can pass laws mandating that no less than xx% - let say 90% hypothetically - of all new vehicle sales in their states must be gas-powered vehicles.

In a sane world, consumers in every state would have the freedom of choice to buy whatever types of cars they want. But sanity has been lost, so a mandate to sell gas-powered cars in red states is necessary to ensure that consumers will still have the choice to buy something other than EVs.

But wait – we conservatives are worshipful about how the market will sort things out. Let Texans buy whatever they want, and if they want gas-powered cars, the market will supply them, right? I used to believe that, but it’s not true anymore. The liberal obsession to terminate driving freedom is unrelenting – they will not pause in their war against gas-powered cars until no one, anywhere, can buy one.

If our “conservative principles” mean that we do nothing in response, the marketplace of major auto manufacturers will take the path of obedience to the left, and they’ll only manufacture EVs. Well, what about start-up auto manufacturers filling the void if legacy manufacturers stop building the gas-powered cars that Texans want? That free market just doesn’t exist anymore.

The cartel of tech utilities, money center banks, government regulators, etc. can and will collude to crush any start-up that defies the corporatist obedience to “the climate crisis.” Lines of credit, ERP software, payment transfer technologies, and so forth would be denied by the cartel of woke capital. Rather than sell their ubiquitous software to a startup auto-manufacturer selling gas-powered cars, companies like Salesforce would more likely be leading the charge to get corporate America to boycott the start-up.

To fight back, what if Texas and Florida were to completely deny market access to major auto manufacturers unless they sell a required percentage of gas-powered cars? (Again, I like 90%.) Those car companies and their suppliers would be forced to find the backbone to stand up to the woke cartel, because those manufacturers – and their suppliers - cannot afford to be shut out of Texas and Florida.

Another principle of responsible state governments is to promote their agricultural and mining products. As you may have heard, Texas produces a heck of a lot of petroleum. So do Oklahoma, Louisiana, and other states. The destruction of the petroleum industry is one of the objectives of the blue state EV obsession. Texas and other petroleum-producing states cannot just sit back and let the Gavin Newsoms of the world destroy their oil and gas industries.

And don’t forget how useless EVs are in a hurricane. If Florida does not protect the right of its citizens to buy gas-powered cars, it will be consigning millions of Floridians to no way to escape from a major hurricane. Florida needs to join the gas-powered vehicle alliance to protect its citizens.

Then there’s the whole grid issue. Texas has already shown with its insane dependency on wind power, that it cannot produce enough electricity during peak demand. California has the same problem with too much demand and too much unreliable energy sourcing. People can’t drive their EVs if they can’t charge them in the first place. Adding millions of electric vehicles to an already overburdened grid would ensure that the days of personal transportation freedom were over. And that is a feature, not a bug, of the EV push.

Texas, Florida, et al must make a stand and mandate that gas-powered cars remain the majority of vehicle sales in their states. And what if somehow the demand just isn’t sufficient for traditional gas-powered cars to meet the mandate? Then auto manufacturers can just keep lowering the price of gas-powered cars until they are selling enough to satisfy the mandate. They’ve had to play that game to make car shoppers buy EVs. If they have to do so to sell cars powered by the engine of freedom, so be it.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 04:30 PM

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1 1st!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 27, 2021 03:30 PM (m+jkK)

2 *inhales sweet New Thread Smell*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 27, 2021 03:30 PM (m+jkK)

3 so close again

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 27, 2021 03:30 PM (8D42x)

4 Fuck Joe Biden

Posted by: clap clap clapclapclap at September 27, 2021 03:31 PM (Pj9mr)

5 I have summoned The Others.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 27, 2021 03:31 PM (m+jkK)

6 I'm not really opposed to the idea, per se, but there's still the commerce clause, which California is pissing all over with this law. Do we really believe it will stand?

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 03:32 PM (Ectld)

7 i like it, it'll never happen, but i sure wish it would.

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 27, 2021 03:32 PM (8D42x)

8 Secede From The Union.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 27, 2021 03:33 PM (/1l9x)

9 I'm not really opposed to the idea, per se, but there's still the commerce clause, which California is pissing all over with this law. Do we really believe it will stand?
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 03:32 PM (Ectld)

it's a tax...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 27, 2021 03:33 PM (8D42x)

10 "I have summoned The Others."

Nicole Kidman and her weird kids?

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 03:33 PM (Ectld)

11 Yes, provided these ar manually driven cars -- not driverless.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2021 03:33 PM (bDqIh)

12 Your mom's a tax!

Posted by: Chief Justice and Bottle Washer Roberts at September 27, 2021 03:33 PM (Ectld)

13 You don't have to "mandate" gas-powered cars.

Just don't subsidize electricity for charging stations. Or maybe, make it hard for charging stations to get permits?

Let the market decide.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 27, 2021 03:33 PM (xopIz)

14 I think we need to look at coal powered car technology again.

Seriously, some of the ideas for natural gas cars seem pretty reasonable. Not pie in the sky stuff like the other evs, which depend on the long tailpipe to the unicorn fart power plants.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:34 PM (gCAC6)

15 Sponge!

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at September 27, 2021 03:34 PM (Dqgwb)

16 Endorsed!

Posted by: Ex-liberal at September 27, 2021 03:34 PM (R1mDg)

17 This is just stupid. Cut off your nose to spite your face stupid. Especially when we are becoming more dependent on Russian and OPEC oil in general. There are many, many better ways to fight back than this.

Posted by: WTP at September 27, 2021 03:34 PM (95axh)

18 @13

I think JAS hit on the real problem. States ain't turnin' down free money.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 03:34 PM (Ectld)

19 Govt bans are a joke.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2021 03:35 PM (Y5qcH)

20 If you were able to cover the entire land mass of the planet with solar panels could you generate enough power to compare with current combined global output?

Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2021 03:35 PM (Tnijr)

21 13 You don't have to "mandate" gas-powered cars.

Just don't subsidize electricity for charging stations. Or maybe, make it hard for charging stations to get permits?

Let the market decide.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 27, 2021 03:33 PM (xopIz)

We are so far on the other side of free market, we cannot even see Adam Smith from here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:35 PM (gCAC6)

22 I'd like to mandate some testicles on the gop.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 27, 2021 03:35 PM (gLBtQ)

23 What if a state decides to require 99% internal combustion and finds they are only at 98%? Does this mean we can start ~~stealing~~ appropriating Piouses from Karens and driving them to NY to sell?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2021 03:35 PM (ACi07)

24 Everyone on the right needs to understand:

Mandates are not "markets".

They're aspects of a "command economy", straight up.

Attack totalitarianism, don't make arguments with totalitarians. They will not listen.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at September 27, 2021 03:35 PM (fPFtn)

25 Can't wait to will my future electric car through a Buffalo snow storm. Would probably get stuck or run out juice plowing through a foot of snow.

Posted by: Pyrocles at September 27, 2021 03:35 PM (/fNiL)

26 I respectfully disagree, Buck. It is compulsion in both directions, and I am opposed to compulsion as a rule. I would prefer that any subsidy, preferential treatment, tax break, regulatory waiver, etc. - for anyone at all - be canceled.

That said, in the real world, retaliatory policy might work. But I suspect you'd find that it would be taken out toot sweet by the government. If Texas were to try this, they would find themselves smacked down immediately by a judge citing the commerce clause. Any attempt to enforce it would result in the Texas cops being arrested by the FBI or other federal cops. States don't really get to set policy anymore. If their policies align with Washington's, they have carte blanche to push as hard as they want. If their policies do not align with Washington's, they get smacked down promptly and hard.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 03:35 PM (Jsjd7)

27 I think we need to look at coal powered car technology again.
Seriously, some of the ideas for natural gas cars seem pretty reasonable. Not pie in the sky stuff like the other evs, which depend on the long tailpipe to the unicorn fart power plants.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:34 PM (gCAC6)

That mountain man Cletus or Festus or whatever his name was built a wood burning truck out of a Toyota if I remember right.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (/1l9x)

28 2035? hummmm, trust me, Humongous ain't gonna be sitting in an EV.

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (r1z5A)

29 And if it would not take the whole planet, how much land would you have to cover with solar panels to be able to power the entire planet's electricity needs?

Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (Tnijr)

30 >>> 20 If you were able to cover the entire land mass of the planet with solar panels could you generate enough power to compare with current combined global output?
Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2021 03:35 PM (Tnijr)

Only the sophisticated people will be allowed to use electricity in the future.

Posted by: W. Gates at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (ACi07)

31 "Does this mean we can start stealing appropriating Piouses from Karens and driving them to NY to sell?"

Yes. And tell her "That's not who we are." and "Government is ALL OF US STEALING YOUR CAR."

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (Ectld)

32 The State doesn't care if you die.
Come to think of it, they would likely prefer it.

Posted by: casual observer 0927 at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (aAP3z)

33 To counter all this bullshit, state-level electoral college.

Stop letting the city liberals run every state.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (XvPQV)

34 What's all this talk of man dates...

Posted by: Paul Lynde at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (flINI)

35 Just got another delivery of a thousand rounds.

That will trump any mandate.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 27, 2021 03:37 PM (gLBtQ)

36 Can't wait to will my future electric car through a Buffalo snow storm. Would probably get stuck or run out juice plowing through a foot of snow.
Posted by: Pyrocles

You'll be fine. Just don't run the heater or defroster.

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:37 PM (r1z5A)

37 Absolutely against anything that forces anyone to do anything. This kind of thing would be used against us, for sure.

Less government, not more.

Posted by: soulpile at September 27, 2021 03:37 PM (VTLGo)

38 34 What's all this talk of man dates...
Posted by: Paul Lynde at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (flINI)

This guy is a rat

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 27, 2021 03:37 PM (XvPQV)

39 I like it!

Posted by: scottst at September 27, 2021 03:38 PM (ojBxe)

40 "You'll be fine. Just don't run the heater or defroster."

And toward the end, the lights or radio.

Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2021 03:38 PM (Tnijr)

41 >>> 32 The State doesn't care if you die.
Come to think of it, they would likely prefer it.
Posted by: casual observer 0927 at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (aAP3z)

There are too many people on the Earth.

Posted by: W. Gates at September 27, 2021 03:38 PM (ACi07)

42 To counter all this bullshit, state-level electoral college.

Stop letting the city liberals run every state.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice

End winner take all.

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:38 PM (r1z5A)

43 The State doesn't care if you die.
Come to think of it, they would likely prefer it.
Posted by: casual observer 0927 at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (aAP3z)
++++
In most cases, they'd rather you be dead. And it's funny because they people they hate the most and want to die the most - the upper middle class conservative or even liberal (though not leftist) people, largely white and Asian - are the ones that keep their system working.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 03:38 PM (Jsjd7)

44 Here here, I agree. Punitive retaliatory legislation. I'm sick of being subject to the decisions of New Yorkers and Californians.

We should also add that a minimum fleet horsepower requirement while we're at it.

I don't want the ICE equivalent of a Geo Metro when our new EV hellscape is upon us.

Posted by: Defenestratus at September 27, 2021 03:38 PM (mDmvZ)

45 CA has been setting EV mandates since before I was born. Never met any of them.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2021 03:38 PM (Y5qcH)

46 34 What's all this talk of man dates...
Posted by: Paul Lynde at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (flINI)

Paul Lynde is going through a Horde Renaissance.

Can Rip Taylor be far behind?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:39 PM (gCAC6)

47 "CA has been setting EV mandates since before I was born. Never met any of them."

Anything to keep the black man out of office.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 03:39 PM (Ectld)

48 >>Let the market decide.

Democrats won;t. so why should we?
For example, Gavin Newsom issued an executive order requiring sales of all new passenger vehicles to be zero-emission by 2035.

Why not do the same? Alinsky #4 mo'fos!!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2021 03:39 PM (bDqIh)

49 Buy a Ford Super Duty with a 7.3 (438cid) gas V8 or a 6.7-litre Power Stroke diesel.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2021 03:39 PM (Mg8KB)

50 From what my friends tell me, parts of Los Angles already have brown outs from people recharging their EVs when they get home from work.

Posted by: casual observer 0927 at September 27, 2021 03:40 PM (aAP3z)

51 There are too many people on the Earth.
Posted by: W. Gates

Yeah, let's completely invert the pyramid.

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:40 PM (r1z5A)

52 >>> 33 To counter all this bullshit, state-level electoral college.

Stop letting the city liberals run every state.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 27, 2021 03:36 PM (XvPQV)

I'm pretty sure it was here that some other Moron pointed out we *did* have that, essentially, and then... I'll give you one guess...

the Supreme Court decided that was un-Constitutional!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2021 03:40 PM (ACi07)

53 "Paul Lynde is going through a Horde Renaissance.

Can Rip Taylor be far behind?"

heh heh I saw what you did there. heh heh

Posted by: Charles Nelson Reilly at September 27, 2021 03:40 PM (Tnijr)

54 No cops, no jails, no border patrol, no cars, no guns, no meat... but if you have a vax passport we have some new pure Hollywood shit Marvel movies for ya, and Obama is shitting out a new Netflix mini-series on how the Weather Underground was framed.

Posted by: Marcus Gravey at September 27, 2021 03:41 PM (+m5xC)

55 "There are too many people on the Earth."

Bullets are cheap, Bill. And taste like lead.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 03:41 PM (Ectld)

56 Where will the electricity come from?

And when I'm on CA 139 or NV 447 where will I rejuice the car?

Posted by: torabora at September 27, 2021 03:41 PM (6gLwT)

57 Red states should also eliminate the catalytic converter requirement. Had mine stolen and it was $2k to replace it. Tow truck drive said almost all his business is towing cars where the cc was stolen.

Maybe also give incentives to eliminate all the computers and other efficiency hacks that make engines expensive, unreliable, and hard to work on.

Posted by: stuckInCalifornia at September 27, 2021 03:42 PM (a74KK)

58 56 Where will the electricity come from?

And when I'm on CA 139 or NV 447 where will I rejuice the car?
Posted by: torabora at September 27, 2021 03:41 PM (6gLwT)

I think the plan is to make sure no one can ever leave their home area. Serfdom.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:42 PM (gCAC6)

59 If Texas were to try this, they would find themselves smacked down immediately by a judge citing the commerce clause. Any attempt to enforce it would result in the Texas cops being arrested by the FBI or other federal cops.

Then let's get it on. Tell the judge to fuck himself. Arrest and jail any Fibbie who tries to interfere. Announce any government assholes coming to Texas better bring six friends with them to carry them back by the handles.

Secession is looking better every day. And if secession is doomed to failure, better to learn that now than keeping it alive as a pipe dream.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2021 03:42 PM (2JVJo)

60 Another fake crisis

Posted by: CN at September 27, 2021 03:42 PM (ONvIw)

61 56 Where will the electricity come from?

And when I'm on CA 139 or NV 447 where will I rejuice the car?
Posted by: torabora at September 27, 2021 03:41 PM (6gLwT)

-----
Don't worry - if the battery dies you can just jump start it by popping the clutch...

Posted by: 496 at September 27, 2021 03:43 PM (VJsqe)

62 ""There are too many people on the Earth.""

There was a Peanuts strip where Lucy yelled just that at Linus. Linus deadpanned back "Why don't you leave"?

Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2021 03:43 PM (Tnijr)

63 How are people supposed to afford these EV's

CA has half population very poor or nearly very poor.

Posted by: torabora at September 27, 2021 03:43 PM (6gLwT)

64 Buck Throckmorton: "Adding millions of electric vehicles to an already overburdened grid would ensure that the days of personal transportation freedom were over."

And that's where the trains come in. Gotta have trains. And they have to run on time.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Ashli Babbitt at September 27, 2021 03:43 PM (aXxgO)

65 You know, Chesterton, who disliked cars inherently, nonetheless saw them as increasing freedom.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 27, 2021 03:43 PM (7X3UV)

66 It would be more fun to file lawsuits daily against anyone who tries to prevent new companies from competing. "Restraint of Trade" is a thing. And don't back down if we lose. "Oh, the case was thrown out? Then we'll see you tomorrow. Here's the summons."

Posted by: NR Pax at September 27, 2021 03:43 PM (Ajt8v)

67 Bullets are cheap, Bill. And taste like lead.
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 03:41 PM (Ectld)

Fun fact. Lead(II) acetate is sweet and was used by the Romans as a sweetener.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2021 03:43 PM (Y5qcH)

68 Red states can mandate all they want. Big3 automakers (one of which is my place of employment) are forced to meet federal regulations for fuel economy and GGE (Greenhouse Gas Emissions) or face crippling fines.

*That* is why all the auto companies are going forward with electrification of all their vehicles. Not because there is customer demand and not because it is profitable. But because the US federal government has ridiculous "climate change"-based policies in place with ridiculous fuel economy and GGE targets.

This is what happens when you allow the Left to take control of every institution in the country, control the narrative and then control the federal government to make laws based on "climate change" bullshit.

Does not matter a damn that likely 90% of the country cares nothing about "climate change". Democrats put the regulations and laws in place and now we all suffer for it.

Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at September 27, 2021 03:44 PM (Do5/p)

69 Where will the electricity come from?

And when I'm on CA 139 or NV 447 where will I rejuice the car?
Posted by: torabora at September 27, 2021 03:41 PM (6gLwT)
++++
It won't, and you won't. Oh, the claim will be "green energy" and "rapid charging station built through public/private partnerships" but that's all a lie. The reality is that there isn't enough juice and won't be and can't be (because no nuke and no fossil) and there won't be enough infrastructure, especially off the main arteries. This is the desired outcome. Stay home. Drive to and from the supermarket and work on occasion. Wanna travel far? Take a plane or a train or a bus and have your papers ready. Otherwise, stay in your designated sector.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 03:44 PM (Jsjd7)

70 "Paul Lynde is going through a Horde Renaissance.

Can Rip Taylor be far behind?"

Where your Rip Taylor is, there will your Jm J Bullock be, also.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2021 03:44 PM (2JVJo)

71
Buy a coal-powered car. Cut out the middleman.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 27, 2021 03:44 PM (/U27+)

72 "if the battery dies you can just jump start it by popping the clutch..."

Solar would also be a good solution. Sheesh.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 27, 2021 03:44 PM (Ectld)

73 the Supreme Court decided that was un-Constitutional!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2021 03:40 PM (ACi07)

It's past time we tell the SC to pound sand

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 27, 2021 03:44 PM (XvPQV)

74 They should impose a large tax on EV sales to a) pay for roads they use without paying the gas taxes, b) pay for the infrastructure needed for charging their cars

Posted by: Greg61 at September 27, 2021 03:44 PM (htLsH)

75 "Gotta have trains."

Like the one that just got derailed, killing 3?
Too bad about that. I was seriously considering a trip.

Posted by: casual observer 0927 at September 27, 2021 03:45 PM (aAP3z)

76 End winner take all.
Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:38 PM (r1z5A)

I like it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 27, 2021 03:45 PM (XvPQV)

77 I'll be driving my 2005 Mustang until Publius takes my license away.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 03:45 PM (Mzdiz)

78 >>> 69 Where will the electricity come from?

And when I'm on CA 139 or NV 447 where will I rejuice the car?
Posted by: torabora at September 27, 2021 03:41 PM (6gLwT)
++++
It won't, and you won't. Oh, the claim will be "green energy" and "rapid charging station built through public/private partnerships" but that's all a lie. The reality is that there isn't enough juice and won't be and can't be (because no nuke and no fossil) and there won't be enough infrastructure, especially off the main arteries. This is the desired outcome. Stay home. Drive to and from the supermarket and work on occasion. Wanna travel far? Take a plane or a train or a bus and have your papers ready. Otherwise, stay in your designated ~~sector~~ District.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 03:44 PM (Jsjd7)

Posted by: Suzanne Collins at September 27, 2021 03:45 PM (ACi07)

79 Where your Rip Taylor is, there will your Jm J Bullock be, also.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2021 03:44 PM (2JVJo)

Ask not for whom the fairy twinkles- he twinkles for thee!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:45 PM (gCAC6)

80 They are pushing the fake meat almost as hard as the jab. Why are they pushing so hard? Just give me the real deal and leave me alone. I'll still be saying that when Ground round is $40 a pound.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 27, 2021 03:45 PM (flINI)

81 "Paul Lynde is going through a Horde Renaissance.

Can Rip Taylor be far behind?"

-
Nobody smashes a watermelon like Gallagher!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 03:45 PM (d9FiS)

82 Where will the electricity come from?

And when I'm on CA 139 or NV 447 where will I rejuice the car?
Posted by: torabora

New battery tech, geez it's like you people don't watch the news.

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:45 PM (r1z5A)

83 I would love to see more electric cars being used in California, as well as Portland and Seattle. It will result in a far greater chance that the grid goes down there.

Anywhere else and I don't want to see any increase in the numbers of electric cars.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at September 27, 2021 03:46 PM (xxG/v)

84 Red States Need To Start Mandating Gas-Powered Cars

That wouldn't be much of a red state.

Posted by: t-bird at September 27, 2021 03:46 PM (vOGqy)

85
Not enough electricity for all the EVs? You shouldn't be driving anyway. Only approved travel is permitted. Fill out these application forms in triplicate. 4-6 weeks for a decision.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 27, 2021 03:46 PM (/U27+)

86 W. Gates: "Only the sophisticated people will be allowed to use electricity in the future."

See you on Elysium, Bro.

Posted by: J. Bezos at September 27, 2021 03:46 PM (aXxgO)

87 Half of CA is real rural. Pickups get the families to work in forests ranches farms and mines.

Gas is far better for that duty than some dumb ass EV

Posted by: torabora at September 27, 2021 03:46 PM (6gLwT)

88 Fact #1 - Ev's are not emission free. Either in the manufacture or operation.

Fact #2 - CA and NY are full of fuck heads - AOS morons not withstanding.

Posted by: Archer at September 27, 2021 03:46 PM (gmo/4)

89 Stop letting the city liberals run every state.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

That requires conservatives to actually get involved in running their cities, counties, and states, and stop outsourcing that role to grifters (i.e., "politicians").

Posted by: SFGoth at September 27, 2021 03:46 PM (KAi1n)

90 Eh....weren't we supposed to all be dead by 2035??

Posted by: dananjcon at September 27, 2021 03:47 PM (u6xw0)

91 Just not mandate electric vehicles free market will do the rest

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2021 03:47 PM (2JoB8)

92 They are pushing the fake meat almost as hard as the jab. Why are they pushing so hard? Just give me the real deal and leave me alone. I'll still be saying that when Ground round is $40 a pound.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 27, 2021 03:45 PM (flINI)
++++
My guess is that the companies that manufacture the stuff are treated *very* well by the government. Beyond that, it's probably bad for you and that is preferable for the state and the corporate complex.

And I think they were offput by the pictures from the first pandemic response shortages of bare food shelves but the vegan crap still available. Even when nothing is available, people make do without that crap.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 03:47 PM (Jsjd7)

93 I can't drive fifty-five.

Posted by: Sammy Hagar at September 27, 2021 03:47 PM (h5TKJ)

94 We could mandate that if there's no electricity for your car, a bunch of Haitians have to carry you around on a palanquin. God knows we'll have millions here soon.

Posted by: Wally at September 27, 2021 03:47 PM (FJYfm)

95 84 Red States Need To Start Mandating Gas-Powered Cars

That wouldn't be much of a red state.
Posted by: t-bird at September 27, 2021 03:46 PM (vOGqy)

Yeah, this.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:47 PM (gCAC6)

96 "Paul Lynde is going through a Horde Renaissance.

Can Rip Taylor be far behind?"

***

Heh

Posted by: Tom Cruise at September 27, 2021 03:47 PM (flINI)

97 But the states are soon going to realize that the money is worthless.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 27, 2021 03:47 PM (xopIz)

98 Just make liberals' heads explode by calling EVs what they really are - coal powered cars.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at September 27, 2021 03:47 PM (SRRAx)

99 Speaking of trains . . .

Gawker has some thoughts on a replacement for Trebeck.

Bethany S. Mandel
@bethanyshondark
"Forgive me for what I'm about to say, but I think what Jeopardy! needs is a a comedian, instead of a pro-Israel wet blanket like [Mayim] Bialik." Subtle.

-
Who is a Nazi?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 03:48 PM (d9FiS)

100 Buy a coal-powered car. Cut out the middleman.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Time to reexamine Germanys gas from oil project, cause Tiger tanks need a LOT of fuel.

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:48 PM (r1z5A)

101 Impose massive taxes on electric vehicles to counter the amount of pollution involved in their manufacture.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 27, 2021 03:48 PM (jOcSX)

102 90 Eh....weren't we supposed to all be dead by 2035??
Posted by: dananjcon at September 27, 2021 03:47 PM (u6xw0)

I already died twice. First from Net Neutrality and then when we got out of the Kyoto Protocols. I got better though.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 27, 2021 03:48 PM (Ajt8v)

103 "...the marketplace of major auto manufacturers will take the path of obedience to the left..."

cf, electric F150's. Electric Mustangs.
No. Just no.

Posted by: Flyover at September 27, 2021 03:48 PM (Rbu5d)

104 cf, electric F150's. Electric Mustangs.
No. Just no.

Posted by: Flyover at September 27, 2021 03:48 PM (Rbu5d)

Concur.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 03:49 PM (Mzdiz)

105 Republican's are weak. This will never happen.

Posted by: Capital Eff at September 27, 2021 03:49 PM (dynG0)

106 I'll be driving my 2005 Mustang until Publius takes my license away.
**

A buddy of mine has a GT in that body style with 4.10 gears and some tasteful upgrades. It's a blast. So much so that I've halfway been watching for a well kept example.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - there's no OSHA law for COVID yet, so the firings are for fun at September 27, 2021 03:49 PM (4lxb3)

107 I still want some solar powers for when the tyrants decide to cut our power as punishment. A few solar panels for my computer, frig/freezer, a few lights, and AC when it is hot and sunny in summer. ...

One would think they would not do that ... but the fascists closed a local coal powered plant ... oh, and they shut down America with the pandemic insanity ... and they fire people that don't bow to global warming. ... maybe they are just getting warmed up?

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2021 03:49 PM (Cus5s)

108 Time to reexamine Germanys gas from oil project, cause Tiger tanks need a LOT of fuel.
Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:48 PM (r1z5A)
++++
Coal gassification works, it just requires gobs of heat and heat is energy-inefficient to create. The energy exchange on the operation isn't economical. Unless, of course, you have a massive source of hear that is a process cost of another operation - like, say, a thorium reactor. The waste heat from that could probably drive a gassification operation essentially for free. And because American coal is often a great source of thorium (has at least as much energy in the form of thorium as in the form of hydrocarbons), it makes for a compelling possibility: rip the thorium out of it, chuck that into the reactor, then gassify the rest.

Too bad it'll never be tried. It might not work out in practice, but boy it would be cool to try it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 03:50 PM (Jsjd7)

109 Heh
Posted by: Tom Cruise at September 27, 2021 03:47 PM (flINI)

I like a lot of his movies. His movies generally do not preach and they have hot chicks. Action. Explosions. ENTERTAINMENT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:50 PM (gCAC6)

110 12 Your mom's a tax!
Posted by: Chief Justice and Bottle Washer Roberts at September 27, 2021 03:33 PM (Ectld)

I just want to make clear, he is no relation of mine.

Posted by: Dread Pirate Roberts at September 27, 2021 03:50 PM (Rbu5d)

111 I'll be driving my 2005 Mustang until Publius takes my license away.
**

A buddy of mine has a GT in that body style with 4.10 gears and some tasteful upgrades. It's a blast. So much so that I've halfway been watching for a well kept example.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - there's no OSHA law for COVID yet, so the firings are for fun at September 27, 2021 03:49 PM (4lxb3)

Mine's only got 95K miles on it. I put on about 2000 miles a year.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 03:51 PM (Mzdiz)

112 Don't worry - if the battery dies you can just jump start it by popping the clutch...
Posted by: 496 at September 27, 2021 03:43 PM (VJsqe)

What's a clutch?

Posted by: Woke Millenial at September 27, 2021 03:51 PM (Ez6QX)

113 The latest wrinkle is from the credit card companies who are planning on denying your purchase of gasoline if you have gone over your CO2 limit for the month or week.

Posted by: casual observer 0927 at September 27, 2021 03:51 PM (aAP3z)

114 they won't be happy until we are all jammed into high-rise tenements, the kind that you live in and work in, tiny little room, Soylent Green every night for dinner and don't for forget to take your Soma... you get the picture.

problem is, that isn't fantasy/horror for them, those are How To books for them.

Posted by: Shoey77 at September 27, 2021 03:51 PM (fcWVN)

115 >>> 102
.....
I already died twice. First from Net Neutrality and then when we got out of the Kyoto Protocols. I got better though.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 27, 2021 03:48 PM (Ajt8v)

You've only died twice? Luxury!! I was killed by Net Neutrality, the exit from the Kyoto Protocols, the tragic death of Princess Diana, Star Trek 5, and the election of Margaret Thatcher.

Posted by: Yorkshire Gentleman at September 27, 2021 03:51 PM (ACi07)

116 Time to reexamine Germanys gas from oil project, cause Tiger tanks need a LOT of fuel.
Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:48 PM (r1z5A)

There's a South African company still doing that, Sasol. They were starting some project in the US because of our cheap natural gas. (You have to gasify the coal before you turn it into a liquid.) Seemed interesting because it would be a cheap way to make low sulfur fuel.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2021 03:51 PM (Y5qcH)

117 Where will the electricity come from?

-
Electricity mines. Duhhhhhhh.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 03:51 PM (d9FiS)

118
The Sun is going to burn out in a few billion years and you want to guzzle photons for your solar-powered car? Are you that selfish? We need commonsense, equitable light rationing.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 27, 2021 03:52 PM (/U27+)

119 electric F150's. Electric Mustangs.

**

Electric $50k 4-door Mustang SUVs. Don't miss that part.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - there's no OSHA law for COVID yet, so the firings are for fun at September 27, 2021 03:52 PM (4lxb3)

120 The problem with compulsion for compulsion is that government compulsion almost never produces the results it was meant to produce. With a law forcing production of gas-powered cars, the manufacturers would adhere strictly to the definition of gas-powered cars and still not produce that actual vehicles people want.

The better choice: ensure that anyone who wants to can create a new car company in Texas, or in Florida (or better, via compact, in both) without all of the restrictions in place that make it so difficult to start a new company and especially a new car company.

Make it so the Texas Automobile Group or the Florida Automobile Group (sorry, Florida) can create the best car in the world without interference from Federal or state red tape. Someone wants to buy a light car that gets great gas mileage, let them do it without armoring the car up. Someone wants to buy a big car that that can load enough luggage in the trunk for a family of five on a four-week vacation? They can do that in Texas/Florida/wherever.

There is a lot of demand for automobiles of different use, but current (mostly federal) regulations for all practical purposes dictates both form and material.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 27, 2021 03:52 PM (CX3cf)

121 How about red states outlaw mandates.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 27, 2021 03:52 PM (kTF2Z)

122 I already died twice. First from Net Neutrality and then when we got out of the Kyoto Protocols. I got better though.
Posted by: NR Pax

You're young, I've been killed by: Nuclear war, global cooling, red dye #2, cyclamates, swine flu, Aids, food shortages, global warming, Y2K, Covid....

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (r1z5A)

123 >>>I still want some solar powers for when the tyrants decide to cut our power as punishment. A few solar panels for my computer, frig/freezer, a few lights, and AC when it is hot and sunny in summer. ...

Hmm...

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (Mzdiz)

124 "Mine's only got 95K miles on it. I put on about 2000 miles a year."

#1 son's 05 is at about 200K. You should get a few more years out of it.

Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (Tnijr)

125 I'm down with this. The truck, if I work at it, will get 15 mpg.

I'm doing my part.

I also remove the tags from mattress.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (mD/uy)

126 This cheeky blonde is only interested in men who drive gas-powered cars that produce in excess of 450 bhp:
https://is.gd/SHjnL9

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (Jsjd7)

127 By 2034, every available piece of flat land on the Oregon, Nevada and Arizona side of their borders with California will be auto malls.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (wUHYj)

128 You're young, I've been killed by: Nuclear war, global cooling, red dye #2, cyclamates, swine flu, Aids, food shortages, global warming, Y2K, Covid....
Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (r1z5A)

You weren't alive for ozone and alar?

whippersnapper!

Posted by: 496 at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (VJsqe)

129 Mandating EV's when there is going to be a shortage of electric power to charge them is a feature for the left. Then the government will tell you how much you can drive and effectively when and where. Like medical care...if they control your medical care, and your means of transportation, and so on and so on, then what?

The coming EV's will be fitted with charge monitoring devices which will prevent you from using any more than your power allocation for the week.

Posted by: Dantes at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (fVKtH)

130 EV's are okay for limited use, but its not like you can simply replace gassers with them wholesale, and everyone passing these laws knows that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (KZzsI)

131 How about red states outlaw mandates.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Would that be mandating no mandates?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (mD/uy)

132 they won't be happy until we are all jammed into high-rise tenements, the kind that you live in and work in, tiny little room, Soylent Green every night for dinner and don't for forget to take your Soma... you get the picture.

Da, da, comrade. We make nice apartment block for you.

CCCP Politburo

Posted by: Archer at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (gmo/4)

133 You weren't alive for ozone and alar?

whippersnapper!
Posted by: 496 at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (VJsqe)
++++
Hell, even I was alive for ozone and the Dread Freon.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (Jsjd7)

134 In Michigan we have a place called Greenfield Village, built by Henry Ford. There are electric cars and water fueled cars from the early1900s. For whatever reason electric cars didn't catch on.

Posted by: Chillin the most at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (lonOK)

135 Wood Gas Technology needs to be updated so I can have a pine fueled Pinto.

Maybe a Maverick also.

Wood Gas!!! The wave of the future.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (weGKL)

136 112 Don't worry - if the battery dies you can just jump start it by popping the clutch...
Posted by: 496 at September 27, 2021 03:43 PM (VJsqe)

What's a clutch?
Posted by: Woke Millenial at September 27, 2021 03:51 PM (Ez6QX)

No shit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (gCAC6)

137 The Next Australia. NY

Breaking911 @Breaking911

BREAKING: New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she will deploy medically trained National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight.

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (2o90I)

138 41...There are too many people on the Earth.
Posted by: W. Gates at September 27, 2021 03:38 PM (ACi07)

Be an example, Billy! You, first.

Posted by: Flyover at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (Rbu5d)

139 Electric Mustangs.
No. Just no.
Posted by: Flyover at September 27, 2021 03:48 PM (Rbu5d)

have you seen them? good lord who figured that was a good look? i swear, they just took the name.

it's literally wearing the name as a skin suit...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (8D42x)

140 Wait a minute. Did someone seriously, unironically suggest that the answer to this government overreach is that you can just start your own car company?

Posted by: Wally at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (FJYfm)

141 >>> 121 How about red states outlaw ~~mandates~~ communists.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 27, 2021 03:52 PM (kTF2Z)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (ACi07)

142 You weren't alive for ozone and alar?

whippersnapper!
Posted by: 496

HA!

Atomic test fallout for us geezers.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (mD/uy)

143 128 You're young, I've been killed by: Nuclear war, global cooling, red dye #2, cyclamates, swine flu, Aids, food shortages, global warming, Y2K, Covid....
Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (r1z5A)

You weren't alive for ozone and alar?

whippersnapper!
Posted by: 496 at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (VJsqe)

Acid rain?! Like I do not know you people.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (gCAC6)

144 SCOTUS would squash it in a heartbeat under the commerce clause.

As Greg61 wrote above, taxing EVs would be easier and SCOTUS believes the power to tax is unlimited.

Tax them at 100% MFRP.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (1t5dY)

145 Plan ahead. Only enough juice available to charge the "car" once or twice per month.

Order your electrons and/or holes from Bezos Inc. and wait. Holes should be lighter to ship.

Maybe you can order the electrons and send the holes back for the deposit.

I'm sure utoob can 'splain it.

Posted by: klaftern at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (taPSh)

146 "Wood Gas Technology needs to be updated so I can have a pine fueled Pinto."

A new use for grass clippings?

Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (Tnijr)

147 And now for something completely different . . .

Zoo goers get a little more than they asked for at the gorilla exhibit. Semi NSFW.

https://youtu.be/ozQ37i1gkJQ

Talk about a Wild Kingdom!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (d9FiS)

148 You've only died twice? Luxury!! I was killed by Net Neutrality, the exit from the Kyoto Protocols, the tragic death of Princess Diana, Star Trek 5, and the election of Margaret Thatcher.
Posted by: Yorkshire Gentleman

Horde mind

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (r1z5A)

149 @Breaking911
BREAKING: New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she will deploy medically trained National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight.
Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (2o90I)
++++
Ohhhh boy. I am glad I won't need medicare care in NY state. This isn't going to work.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (Jsjd7)

150 Don't forget the new cars won't even start until you puff OK on the built in Breathalyzer.

Posted by: casual observer 0927 at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (aAP3z)

151 I don't think there is anything more stupid than going all EV.'Magical thinking isn't going to power their cars during a power outage. Hybrid maybe. Otherwise, GFY!

Posted by: Brian Stelter at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (vGJY7)

152 BREAKING: New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she will deploy medically trained National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight.
Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (2o90I)

I knew she would b a bad as Cuomo, but I believe she is worse if that's possible

Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (8nD9v)

153 Rather than require a percentage of new cars that are fossil-fueled, Red states should slap a heavy tariff on the import of EV not originally sold in the state and a requirement that out of state EV purchase a permit at the border and pay a daily usage fee for public roads, since they won't be paying a road tax via gasoline taxes.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at September 27, 2021 03:56 PM (LW36e)

154 I thought bullet trains were going to be the cat's pajamas? Just think, high speed locomotives in a sealed tube. Destination: "Zyklon B"

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 27, 2021 03:56 PM (stUc+)

155 BREAKING: New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she will deploy medically trained National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight.
Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (2o90I)

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Possible translation: They have excess emergency and ICU capacity. Fire a bunch of healthcare workers, bring in a couple of backups, and voila - you have to shut down more ICU beds because you can't staff them.

Posted by: 496 at September 27, 2021 03:56 PM (VJsqe)

156 Not a good idea. Let the respective states mandate EVs. Demand for standard gas will go down as will the price. Mandating gas powered vehicles would artificially inflate demand and keep gas prices high.

Posted by: NeverBiden at September 27, 2021 03:56 PM (uA3aJ)

157 Zoo goers get a little more than they asked for at the gorilla exhibit. Semi NSFW.

https://youtu.be/ozQ37i1gkJQ

Talk about a Wild Kingdom!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (d9FiS)
++++
Huh. I didn't know that apes did oral sex.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 03:56 PM (Jsjd7)

158 You're young, I've been killed by: Nuclear war, global cooling, red dye #2, cyclamates, swine flu, Aids, food shortages, global warming, Y2K, Covid....

I'm old enough to have survived those events as well. I was just taking the two most horrid ones in recent memory.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 27, 2021 03:56 PM (Ajt8v)

159 Stephen Price Blair: "The better choice: ensure that anyone who wants to can create a new car company in Texas, or in Florida (or better, via compact, in both) without all of the restrictions in place that make it so difficult to start a new company and especially a new car company."

Yeah, that's going to be a problem. That's why we're here. Restrictions are the lifeblood Federalists.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 27, 2021 03:57 PM (aXxgO)

160 I'm doing my part. My 2017 F-150 gets 15 MPG.

Posted by: Archer at September 27, 2021 03:57 PM (gmo/4)

161 Woke Preacher Clips @WokePreacherTV

"[The vaccine] is from God to us. And we must say 'Thank you God'...There are people out there who aren't listening to God + what God wants...I need you to be my apostles, I need you to go out and...say: We owe this to each other."

NY Gov Kathy Hochul @ Christian Cultural Center

wtf

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:57 PM (2o90I)

162 I knew she would b a bad as Cuomo, but I believe she is worse if that's possible
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (8nD9v)

Replacing Cuomo allows her to let out her little Beria.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:57 PM (gCAC6)

163 Wait a minute. Did someone seriously, unironically suggest that the answer to this government overreach is that you can just start your own car company?

If there’s political will to mandate gas-powered vehicles, there’s political will to make it easier to start up your own company.

If there isn’t political will to make it easier to start new car companies, there isn’t going to be the political will to mandate gas cars.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (CX3cf)

164 @WokePreacherTV

"[The vaccine] is from God to us. And we must say 'Thank you God'...There are people out there who aren't listening to God + what God wants...I need you to be my apostles, I need you to go out and...say: We owe this to each other."

NY Gov Kathy Hochul @ Christian Cultural Center

wtf
Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:57 PM (2o90I)
++++
WTF is about right. I've got nothin'

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (Jsjd7)

165 Can't wait to will my future electric car through a Buffalo snow storm. Would probably get stuck or run out juice plowing through a foot of snow.
Posted by: Pyrocles

You'll be fine. Just don't run the heater or defroster.
Posted by: Some Rat

We had a series of "air cooled" 4 cylinder VW Bugs in the 1960's. Easy to work on, easy to fix, economical to run (got 25 mpg when gas was $.25/gallon). That said, COLD AS HELL in the winter. The air cooled engine put out no usable heat to heat the car. You had to get a catalytic heater that ran on gas, and that also put out some CO.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (vcOmj)

166 I am holding out for the Ford Nucleon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Nucleon

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (flINI)

167 [The vaccine] is from God to us. And we must say 'Thank you God'.

So using that rationale was Covid also a gift from God ? ?

Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (8nD9v)

168 Huh. I didn't know that apes did oral sex.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

We are all really beasts deep down.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (mD/uy)

169 122 I already died twice. First from Net Neutrality and then when we got out of the Kyoto Protocols. I got better though.
Posted by: NR Pax

You're young, I've been killed by: Nuclear war, global cooling, red dye #2, cyclamates, swine flu, Aids, food shortages, global warming, Y2K, Covid....
Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (r1z5A)

You left out Acid Rain and the hole in the ozone layer -

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (SRRAx)

170 160 I'm doing my part. My 2017 F-150 gets 15 MPG.
Posted by: Archer at September 27, 2021 03:57 PM (gmo/4)

I can actually get in the 20s with my 2017 Mustang GT. On the highway.

Around town or if I get on it? Low teens. It is like Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:59 PM (gCAC6)

171 The other thing they're going to be pushing in a big way is autonomous cars. I see comments on every GD video regarding drunk drivers etc. bemoaning the fact it wouldn't happen if we had autonomous cars. Fuck all of you.

You know, if we mandated everybody ride motorcycles, that would be greener than any EV car could ever be. Far, far greener, and take less space to boot. Oh, what's that? Too scary?

Reminds me of the ad I've started seeing for Ring/Goolag. A couple of black guys are cooking in kitchen - and doorbell rings. Of course, they can't be bothered so they say "hey google, unlock the door" and the guests come in with flowers and wine and hugs.

What happens when we say "hey google, unlock the door" and we get "I'm sorry Dave. You know I can't do that."?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 27, 2021 03:59 PM (wAnMi)

172 I can't drive with 55 volts

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2021 03:59 PM (2JoB8)

173 "New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she will deploy medically trained National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight."

Brilliant. Create an emergency to force yourself to use emergency services... forever.

Top. Men. Oh, and Evil.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 27, 2021 03:59 PM (aXxgO)

174 166 I am holding out for the Ford Nucleon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Nucleon
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (flINI)

I want Project ORION.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 03:59 PM (gCAC6)

175 This is squarely in my wheelhouse. I write about it regularly and I'm speaking on it next week. I talks to the leading folk in all sectors from petrol to EV. But, Ace's SW seems to think my long, detailed and perhaps insightful post is spam and I'm too tired after an aggravating day clothes shopping to try and make it magically work.

In a nutshell. It's an unworkable scam, Afghanistan would have been easier to get a good outcome and we're shitting on combustion when for the first time ever oil exports are paying down our debt.

Posted by: Keith - Pinochet/Bell Helicopter 202447 at September 27, 2021 03:59 PM (jdGlx)

176 "You're young, I've been killed by: Nuclear war, global cooling, red dye #2, cyclamates, swine flu, Aids, food shortages, global warming, Y2K, Covid....
Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (r1z5A)
You left out Acid Rain and the hole in the ozone layer -"

And the Ice Age.

Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2021 04:00 PM (Tnijr)

177
if they can mandate EVs, can we mandate lefty men and women do sex to only fat people and fatso's?

that seems reasonable

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 27, 2021 04:00 PM (bTQ72)

178 122 I already died twice. First from Net Neutrality and then when we got out of the Kyoto Protocols. I got better though.
Posted by: NR Pax

-----
Truth be told, I didn't die until I took that fish tank cleaner. That was a big whoops.

Posted by: 496 at September 27, 2021 04:00 PM (VJsqe)

179 ha ha ha, that's even funnier than vote harder.

not.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 27, 2021 04:00 PM (jDHSU)

180 161 Woke Preacher Clips @WokePreacherTV

"[The vaccine] is from God to us. And we must say 'Thank you God'...There are people out there who aren't listening to God + what God wants...I need you to be my apostles, I need you to go out and...say: We owe this to each other."

NY Gov Kathy Hochul @ Christian Cultural Center

wtf
Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:57 PM (2o90I)

Something about false prophets.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 04:00 PM (gCAC6)

181 You know, if we mandated everybody ride motorcycles, that would be greener than any EV car could ever be. Far, far greener, and take less space to boot. Oh, what's that? Too scary?

They don't want us to have any vehicles at all.. They want us on public transportation

Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2021 04:00 PM (8nD9v)

182 HA!

Atomic test fallout for us geezers.
Posted by: Tonypete

Remember when the snow was "radioactive"? Sometime in the early 60's. Agitprop for the Atmospheric Test Ban treaty.

And by the way, I remember Vic writing about how they did high altitude air sample when he was in the Navy (no, it wasn't with John Paul Jones, either) and there were some hellacious isotopes in the upper atmosphere. From us and the Russkies doing atmospheric testing.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (vcOmj)

183 Wait, so AIDS is from God?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - there's no OSHA law for COVID yet, so the firings are for fun at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (4lxb3)

184 The air cooled engine put out no usable heat to heat the car. You had to get a catalytic heater that ran on gas, and that also put out some CO.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (vcOmj)

The engine put out plenty of heat, there just wasn't a way to get it into the cabin. So they put that little gasoline burning heater in the front.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (Y5qcH)

185 [The vaccine] is from God to us. And we must say 'Thank you God'.

So using that rationale was Covid also a gift from God ? ?
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (8nD9v)

quick, now do abortion...

i do so enjoy wen they pull out God for these things...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (8D42x)

186

EVs and hurricanes seem almost as bad as EVs and forest fires

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (bTQ72)

187 @WokePreacherTV

"[The vaccine] is from God to us. And we must say 'Thank you God'...There are people out there who aren't listening to God + what God wants...I need you to be my apostles, I need you to go out and...say: We owe this to each other."

NY Gov Kathy Hochul @ Christian Cultural Center

wtf
Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:57 PM

Says a woman who supports killing babies up to the point they are literally being born. Beware those who invoke God that don't believe in God.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (JUOKG)

188 Red states should slap a heavy tariff on the import of EV not originally sold in the state and a requirement that out of state EV purchase a permit at the border…

California already tried this, although of course in the opposite direction. They got slapped down by the courts and had to refund everyone they’d charged a fee when registering an out-of-state vehicle. I actually got a check from them for my 1984 Mustang.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (CX3cf)

189 So, because of mandates in New York, so many healthcare workers will lose their jobs that National Guard will have to leave their careers and families to work in those hospitals and nursing homes that don't have enough workers. Got it.

Posted by: Stellastwocents at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (cRbt7)

190 Don't worry, we aren't making it to 2035.

Posted by: Oldstoke at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (sb+Cg)

191 I knew she would b a bad as Cuomo, but I believe she is worse if that's possible

Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (8nD9v)

No party tits.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (Mzdiz)

192 "[The vaccine] is from God to us. And we must say 'Thank you God'...There are people out there who aren't listening to God + what God wants...I need you to be my apostles, I need you to go out and...say: We owe this to each other."

NY Gov Kathy Hochul @ Christian Cultural Center

-
I shouldn't have gone with an abridged Bible. Completely skipped over this verse.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (d9FiS)

193 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (arJlL)

194 BREAKING: New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she will deploy medically trained National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight.
Posted by: artisanal ette

So who the fuck are going to do the jobs the NG left due to the call up?!

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (r1z5A)

195 Buffalo winters will de-rate the crap out batteries. Hybrid plug in heater, comin' right up!

Posted by: klaftern at September 27, 2021 04:02 PM (taPSh)

196 190 Don't worry, we aren't making it to 2035.
Posted by: Oldstoke at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (sb+Cg)

That's if we are lucky.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 04:02 PM (gCAC6)

197 147 - Zoo goers get a little more than they asked for at the gorilla exhibit. Semi NSFW.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Years ago the Colorado Springs zoo had a large silverback brought in on loan in order to service the female resident which had come into her prime.
Service her he did, right up against the glass in a similar fashion to this video. His use of his legs to grab and manage her while she road cowgurl style was jealousy inspiring as he lay there, all day, taking his time, as a true professional would.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at September 27, 2021 04:02 PM (LW36e)

198 So who the fuck are going to do the jobs the NG left due to the call up?!
Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (r1z5A)

Well, they have all those troops brought back from Afghanistan...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 04:02 PM (gCAC6)

199 You know, if we mandated everybody ride motorcycles, that would be greener than any EV car could ever be. Far, far greener, and take less space to boot. Oh, what's that? Too scary? ...
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 27, 2021 03:59 PM (wAnMi)
++++
The greenest car is a used car. The end-to-end manufacturing will consume more energy than the car is likely to burn over its lifespan. Keeping a car - however much a gas-guzzler - on the road and working is greener than trading up to any car, regardless of how efficient its power plant might be. A used hummer is greener than a new Tesla.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 04:02 PM (Jsjd7)

200 Truth be told, I didn't die until I took that fish tank cleaner. That was a big whoops.
Posted by: 496 at September 27, 2021 04:00 PM

I want to hear his opinion on the matter, too: https://tinyurl.com/4eae54pf

Posted by: Bert G at September 27, 2021 04:02 PM (UhON+)

201 Or red states could just tax them to pay for grid improvements.

Somewhere, Tesla fanbois are in fetal position clutching their Elon stuffy.

Posted by: G. Gnome will not comply at September 27, 2021 04:03 PM (OQcPl)

202
Ugh, I'm beat. Worked all day on a miserably complicated search request that was needed on a rush basis, then studied and filled out an estimate on another one they want me to do.

Still, $60 an hour for 10-12 hours of work isn't to be sneezed at. And they must not be completely dissatisfied with me because they keep sending me stuff to do.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 27, 2021 04:03 PM (/U27+)

203 Great idea. California is always pushing stupid ideas that become the law everywhere because it's difficult for companies to meet 2 standards.

We need to push back. With any luck California will realize how stupid their law is and drop it before it begins to bite. When it gets to about 2030 and California is still selling 80% non-EV, they might realize that they can't put all of their auto dealerships out of business. So CA will repeal, and Texas & Florida will look even smarter.

Posted by: Dave at September 27, 2021 04:03 PM (mXUCw)

204 And by the way, I remember Vic writing about how they did high altitude air sample when he was in the Navy (no, it wasn't with John Paul Jones, either) and there were some hellacious isotopes in the upper atmosphere. From us and the Russkies doing atmospheric testing.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (vcOmj)

must have been when he was fishing with Jesus...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 27, 2021 04:03 PM (8D42x)

205 "[The vaccine] is from God to us. And we must say 'Thank you God'...There are people out there who aren't listening to God + what God wants...I need you to be my apostles, I need you to go out and...say: We owe this to each other."

NY Gov Kathy Hochul @ Christian Cultural Center

wtf
Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:57 PM (2o90I)

I'm sorry, but the "be my apostles" thing is creepy as hell.

Posted by: Woke Millenial at September 27, 2021 04:03 PM (Ez6QX)

206 Wait, so AIDS is from God?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - there's no OSHA law for COVID yet, so the firings are for fun at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (4lxb3)

***

You're goddamn right it is...

Posted by: Westboro Baptist Church at September 27, 2021 04:03 PM (flINI)

207 Off stupid 20-something sock!

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 27, 2021 04:03 PM (Ez6QX)

208 The greenest car is a used car

**

Hard for wealthy environmentalist types to show everyone else that they love the planet if they drive a two year old Tercel.

People might assume they're just poor.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - there's no OSHA law for COVID yet, so the firings are for fun at September 27, 2021 04:04 PM (4lxb3)

209 "[The vaccine] is from God to us. And we must say 'Thank you God'..."

And now we know NY Gov Kathy Hochul is a certifiable loon.

The hits just keep coming.

I'm sure the ACLU will now jump in with a healthy, hearty "Amen" and find religion.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 27, 2021 04:04 PM (aXxgO)

210 Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:57 PM (2o90I)

I'm sorry, but the "be my apostles" thing is creepy as hell.
Posted by: Woke Millenial at September 27, 2021 04:03 PM (Ez6QX)

I think she means be my stormtroopers

Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2021 04:04 PM (8nD9v)

211 The air cooled engine put out no usable heat to heat the car. You had to get a catalytic heater that ran on gas, and that also put out some CO.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (vcOmj)

The engine put out plenty of heat, there just wasn't a way to get it into the cabin. So they put that little gasoline burning heater in the front.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (Y5qcH)

drive backwards?

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 27, 2021 04:04 PM (8D42x)

212 ha ha ha, that's even funnier than vote harder.

not.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 27, 2021 04:00 PM (jDHSU)

Tell me again why I should vote. I always vote, but now that the enemy openly cheats and sneers in my face, tell me again why I should vote.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 04:05 PM (Mzdiz)

213

NY is imploding.

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:05 PM (2o90I)

214 Just bought a Dodge Challenger RT - V8 5.7 Hemi
I'm doing my part : )

Posted by: Big Star at September 27, 2021 04:05 PM (pvJV4)

215 "Seriously, some of the ideas for natural gas cars seem pretty reasonable. Not pie in the sky stuff like the other evs, which depend on the long tailpipe to the unicorn fart power plants."
*******
LNG has about 20% the energy content of gasoline.

Here's a chart:

tinyurl.com/s2hp6zxc

Posted by: Noam Sayen at September 27, 2021 04:05 PM (fPFtn)

216 209 "[The vaccine] is from God to us. And we must say 'Thank you God'..."

And now we know NY Gov Kathy Hochul is a certifiable loon.

The hits just keep coming.

I'm sure the ACLU will now jump in with a healthy, hearty "Amen" and find religion.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 27, 2021 04:04 PM (aXxgO)

Hochul turned from 'moderate' to progressive loon faster than even Gillibrand did. Most impressive.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 27, 2021 04:05 PM (/xqYi)

217
Tell me again why I should vote. I always vote, but now that the enemy openly cheats and sneers in my face, tell me again why I should vote.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 0

I've never missed a vote.. And I live in CA. Talk about an exercise in futility

Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2021 04:05 PM (8nD9v)

218 must have been when he was fishing with Jesus...
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 27, 2021 04:03 PM (8D42x)

***

I saw Fishing with Jesus open up for Sandi Patty at the Saint Paul Civic Center in '82

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 27, 2021 04:06 PM (flINI)

219 "It is imperative that Texas, other oil-patch states, and all freedom-loving states (hello Florida) start fighting back."

What? That's not who we are.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 27, 2021 04:06 PM (J5gTp)

220 "And we must say 'Thank you God'...There are people out there who aren't listening to God + what God wants...I need you to be my apostles, I need you to go out and...say: We owe this to each other"

She sounds like a televangelist. Was she crying so her mascara was running down her face?

Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2021 04:06 PM (Tnijr)

221 Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:57 PM (2o90I)

I'm sorry, but the "be my apostles" thing is creepy as hell.
Posted by: Woke Millenial at September 27, 2021 04:03 PM (Ez6QX)

I think she means be my stormtroopers
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2021 04:04 PM (8nD9v)

A lot of people will be dying in NY soon.
Bet on it.

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:06 PM (2o90I)

222 Buffalo winters will de-rate the crap out batteries. Hybrid plug in heater, comin' right up!
Posted by: klaftern

Yeah, cold weather will kill batteries. I don't care if they are Lithium, Lead acid, or what. Cold weather (below freezing) kills the chemical reaction to generate electricity in batteries.
And imagine millions of people charging their cars overnight. The load on the grid will be something to behold.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 04:06 PM (vcOmj)

223 I knew she would b a bad as Cuomo, but I believe she is worse if that's possible

Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (8nD9v)

No party tits.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (Mzdiz)

that we know of ... yet...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at September 27, 2021 04:07 PM (8D42x)

224 BREAKING: New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she will deploy medically trained National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight.

She has to go home sometime, is all I will say.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2021 04:07 PM (2JVJo)

225 107...but the fascists closed a local coal powered plant ... oh, and they shut down America with the pandemic insanity ... and they fire people that don't bow to global warming. ... maybe they are just getting warmed up?
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2021 03:49 PM (Cus5s)

Ourlocal utility is shutting down the nuclear plant, and will buy ALL power from other utilities. Oh, and from thelocal "wind farm." And yes, mandating all customers get a Smart Meter (tm).

So the heavy industry will get their power needs met. The rest of us? Not so much.

The utility execs don't see any problems with their scheme.

Posted by: Flyover at September 27, 2021 04:07 PM (Rbu5d)

226 199 You know, if we mandated everybody ride motorcycles, that would be greener than any EV car could ever be. Far, far greener, and take less space to boot. Oh, what's that? Too scary? ...
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 27, 2021 03:59 PM (wAnMi)
++++
The greenest car is a used car. The end-to-end manufacturing will consume more energy than the car is likely to burn over its lifespan. Keeping a car - however much a gas-guzzler - on the road and working is greener than trading up to any car, regardless of how efficient its power plant might be. A used hummer is greener than a new Tesla.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 04:02 PM (Jsjd7)

Amen, brother. Amen.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 27, 2021 04:07 PM (/xqYi)

227 And you know what they aren't building in CA or NY?

The power plants needed to supply all these electric cars.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 27, 2021 04:07 PM (Y5qcH)

228 Gov't gonna pay all those hundreds of thousands of Haitians 30 bucks an hour to pedal those turbines and produce that 'lectricty. Problem solved.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 27, 2021 04:07 PM (RPJi7)

229 With any luck California will realize how stupid their law is

STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: Commisar of Cloudy Urine at September 27, 2021 04:08 PM (sUg1m)

230

video

I need you to be my apostles, I need you to go out and...say: We owe this to each other."

and they clap

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:08 PM (2o90I)

231 His use of his legs to grab and manage her while she road cowgurl style was jealousy inspiring as he lay there, all day, taking his time, as a true professional would.
Posted by: TSgt Ciz

Gorigolo.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 04:08 PM (d9FiS)

232 Regulate the charging stations.

NO CHARGING IN EXCESS OF 27 MINUTES.FOR SAFETY NO CHARGING IN RAIN OR HIGH HUMIDITY. CHARGING STATIONS CANNOT BE PLACED WITHIN 54 YARDS OF ANOTHER CHARGING STATION. HOME CHARGING STATION REGULATIONS REQUIRE THE HOME BE RETROFITTED WITH AN APPROVED FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.

EV BATTERIES MUST BE REPLACED WITHIN 5 YEARS OR 99,000 MILES, WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST.

EVs MUST PAY A $5000 BATTERY RECYCLING SURCHARGE.

EVs MUST PAY $0.75 PER KILOWATT CARBON TAX FOR USE OF COAL GENERATED ELECTRICITY.

Posted by: Minuteman at September 27, 2021 04:08 PM (LaNzR)

233 LNG has about 20% the energy content of gasoline.

Here's a chart:

tinyurl.com/s2hp6zxc

Posted by: Noam Sayen at September 27, 2021 04:05 PM (fPFtn)

Interesting. I notice they do not include nuclear. Also, how they list electricity- and just say it comes from a 'variety of sources.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 04:08 PM (gCAC6)

234 EVs are 30% cheaper to make than ICE cars. So automakers love them. Fewer workers. Unions not so much. So the Biden admin is ramping up subsidies for union shop automakers. Nice way to shoehorn the foreign automakers mfg. in the US to become union shops if not already. Paid for by our tax dollars (or the big uncle sugar printing press).

Posted by: Keith - Pinochet/Bell Helicopter 202447 at September 27, 2021 04:08 PM (jdGlx)

235 Disagree.

Don't mandate gas powered vehicles.

Simply prohibit the sale of electricity to outside states by electricity producers.

NY and CA will change their mind soon enough.

And there is no reason for states like Tennessee or West Virginia to have to bear the burden of electricity production for outside states, as if they were little more than oversized industrial parks for other states.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 27, 2021 04:09 PM (5We2S)

236

I wear my vaccinated necklace all of the time. Yes, I know you are vaccinated, you're the smart ones...

what a beatch NY Gov Kathy Hochul

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:09 PM (2o90I)

237 No, what Texas should do is create an "infrastructure" fee which matches any federal subsidy dollar for dollar.

So, you get $12k from feds for buying a tesla?
Well Texas happens to have a fee of $12k on electric vehicles to pay for upgrades to power grid. Sorry.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 27, 2021 04:09 PM (nOE/J)

238 BREAKING: New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she will deploy medically trained National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight.

Unbelievably insane. Complete maniacs are running things.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 27, 2021 04:09 PM (J5gTp)

239 A lot of people will be dying in NY soon.
Bet on it.
Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:06 PM (2o90I)

And it will be blamed on MAGA/Unvaccinated/wreckers/kulaks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 04:09 PM (gCAC6)

240 She has to go home sometime, is all I will say.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2021 04:07 PM (2JVJo)

I'm waiting to see how and when and where this begins.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 04:09 PM (Mzdiz)

241 I'll just wait over here while the Gas/Diesel ICE and EV factions duke it out.

Posted by: Hydrogen at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (WmGrA)

242 These fk nuts really want Civil War II don't they?

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (2JoB8)

243 Just bought a Dodge Challenger RT - V8 5.7 Hemi
I'm doing my part : )

Posted by: Big Star at September 27, 2021 04:05 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMTz9nIUkGc

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (JUOKG)

244 And there is no reason for states like Tennessee or West Virginia to have to bear the burden of electricity production for outside states, as if they were little more than oversized industrial parks for other states.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 27, 2021 04:09 PM (5We2S)

Again, serfdom.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (gCAC6)

245 Putting the piss back into epistle.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (6FeV1)

246 New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she will deploy medically trained National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight.

Boy, good thing we got rid of that Cuomo guy, how much worse can it get?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (KZzsI)

247 Mine's only got 95K miles on it. I put on about 2000 miles a year.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 03:51 PM (Mzdiz)

My '06 Mustang GT has 358,000 miles on it and I still drive it like I stole it.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (Zvtjl)

248 In the hell-hole dystopia that I imagine will result from the all-EV push, the Amish are going to make out like bandits.

Go long on horse buggies.

Posted by: 496 at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (VJsqe)

249 She bookends the false words with RACISM!

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (2o90I)

250 115...Posted by: Yorkshire Gentleman at September 27, 2021 03:51 PM (ACi07)

You forgot Y2K.
Didn't you die from Y2K?!?

Posted by: Flyover at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (Rbu5d)

251 BREAKING: New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she will deploy medically trained National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight.
Posted by: artisanal ette

So who the fuck are going to do the jobs the NG left due to the call up?!
Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM
(r1z5A)
Is there any judge who will put a stop to this madness?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (mR6Gs)

252 I'll just wait over here while the Gas/Diesel ICE and EV factions duke it out.
Posted by: Hydrogen at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (WmGrA)

***

Fist bump

Posted by: Nooklear at September 27, 2021 04:11 PM (flINI)

253 And you know what they aren't building in CA or NY?

The power plants needed to supply all these electric cars.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Details, details. You have to see the BIG picture.....

And yeah, Ohio had coal fired power plants all up and down the Ohio River, every 20 or so miles.
And they are all being scrapped or are already torn down. Ohio USED to be an electricity exporting state.
And now the utilities hitched their wagon to gas turbines running on Nat Gas, and Chairman Joe rammed up the price of Nat Gas by canceling fracking on Federal Lands at the beginning of his reign of error.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 04:11 PM (vcOmj)

254
Yeah, cold weather will kill batteries. I don't care if they are Lithium, Lead acid, or what. Cold weather (below freezing) kills the chemical reaction to generate electricity in batteries.
And imagine millions of people charging their cars overnight. The load on the grid will be something to behold.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 04:06 PM (vcOmj)

Back in my Army RTO days *koff koff* years ago, we had battery extension cords for the PRC77 radios so that we could keep the batteries inside our clothes under the armpit when we were on winter exercises in Alaska. The newer lithium batteries that the Army was introducing then were a lot better with the cold, but the old-school batts would die in a heartbeat once the temp got down to below zero.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2021 04:11 PM (n+4am)

255 "[The vaccine] is from God to us. And we must say 'Thank you God'..."

And now we know NY Gov Kathy Hochul is a certifiable loon.

The hits just keep coming.

I'm sure the ACLU will now jump in with a healthy, hearty "Amen" and find religion.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 27, 2021 04:04 PM (aXxgO)
==============================

Donald Trump is her God?

Because that is who deserves thanks for this vaccine, this soon.

Posted by: rd at September 27, 2021 04:11 PM (Z32m1)

256
Anywhere else and I don't want to see any increase in the numbers of electric cars.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at September 27, 2021 03:46 PM

I still believe that EVs should be banned from limited access highways, just like golf carts, bicycles, farm implements, motorcycles under a certain displacement...

I'm totes cereal...EVs are a menace to navigation on the freeway

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 27, 2021 04:11 PM (DUIap)

257 The power plants needed to supply all these electric cars.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

They'll just mandate more hole pluggy things in walls.

Fixed

Posted by: Bruce at September 27, 2021 04:11 PM (vd8XM)

258 184 The air cooled engine put out no usable heat to heat the car. You had to get a catalytic heater that ran on gas, and that also put out some CO.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 03:58 PM (vcOmj)

The engine put out plenty of heat, there just wasn't a way to get it into the cabin. So they put that little gasoline burning heater in the front.

vws have shrouds on their exhast lines with fins inside them. the exhaust heats up the fins. Air is pushed around them and into the cabin. they can push exhaust into the cabin if they're not well-maintained.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at September 27, 2021 04:12 PM (v3pYe)

259 And it will be blamed on MAGA/Unvaccinated/wreckers/kulaks.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 04:09 PM (gCAC6)

and the Jews!

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:12 PM (2o90I)

260 I wear my vaccinated necklace all of the time. Yes, I know you are vaccinated, you're the smart ones...

what a beatch NY Gov Kathy Hochul

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:09 PM (2o90I)

My vaccination necklace consist of the finger bones of those holding the syringes. It loops around my neck several times to prevent it from tripping me.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 04:12 PM (Mzdiz)

261 The world doesn't produce enough electrical power now and still won't by 2035 to charge all of theses electric cars. So in the future, you just won't have a car. They already know that these mandates will allow the rich to drive cars that cost $25,000 per year to operate while the rest of us have to ride bicycles or ride busses stocked full of assholes.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 27, 2021 04:12 PM (l+ptU)

262 >>>You're young, I've been killed by: Nuclear war, global cooling, red dye #2, cyclamates, swine flu, Aids, food shortages, global warming, Y2K, Covid....
Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM (r1z5A)

======

Don't forget drinking from a garden hose.

Posted by: Now they tell me at September 27, 2021 04:12 PM (8TpiG)

263 There is no such thing as "emission free".
These people do not understand:
1.Thermodynamics
2. The manufacturing of engines and related cycles.
3. Where plastic and related lubricants for their zesty golf carts come from.

Trust me.
I have had these dialogues with people I thought were smart.
Now...I no longer care about these people when the power stops.

Posted by: jdubyaAZ at September 27, 2021 04:12 PM (FQ2t6)

264 Donald Trump is her God?

Because that is who deserves thanks for this vaccine, this soon.
Posted by: rd at September 27, 2021 04:11 PM (Z32m1)

I am pretty sure I am not thanking Trump for that one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 04:12 PM (gCAC6)

265 I just saw a car with Jesus and Trump/Pence bumper stickers. I was kind of annoyed that Pence was included with the other two.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 04:13 PM (d9FiS)

266 The oil companies are getting on board because state and EU carbon lawsuits put a gun to their head. Shell is already being pegged by the Hague and are working to become an electric supplier from the garage to the street curb or mall to huge travel plaza style charging stations. Their traditional gasoline retailers will get screwed though. Sites can't support the time and space requirements efficiently.

Posted by: Keith - Pinochet/Bell Helicopter 202447 at September 27, 2021 04:13 PM (jdGlx)

267 Donald Trump is her God?

Because that is who deserves thanks for this vaccine, this soon.
Posted by: rd at September 27, 2021 04:11 PM (Z32m1)

oh, she's talking about Fauci and friends, she names the "researchers" etc

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:13 PM (2o90I)

268 265 I just saw a car with Jesus and Trump/Pence bumper stickers. I was kind of annoyed that Pence was included with the other two.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 04:13 PM (d9FiS)

Even Christ had Judas.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 04:13 PM (gCAC6)

269 "EVs are a menace to navigation on the freeway"

Funny you should mention that. I just read a report that the auto-pilot features in Teslas actually produce more accidents due to the drivers being significantly less attentive.
They doze off.

Posted by: casual observer 0927 at September 27, 2021 04:13 PM (aAP3z)

270 There is no such thing as "emission free".

-
A modern day philosopher's stone.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 27, 2021 04:14 PM (d9FiS)

271 VW is already a "private" skinsuit worn by the EU (after they were caught with their diesel cheating). It's been gutted and no longer has any real control over its operations at least to my observations. Thye are gearing up to build batteries and evs now.

Posted by: Keith - Pinochet/Bell Helicopter 202447 at September 27, 2021 04:14 PM (jdGlx)

272 I didn't know that there were that many "medically trained" Nat Guard. I guess if you can apply a bandaid you qualify.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 27, 2021 04:14 PM (RPJi7)

273 vws have shrouds on their exhast lines with fins inside them. the exhaust heats up the fins. Air is pushed around them and into the cabin. they can push exhaust into the cabin if they're not well-maintained.
Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain

It took a LONG time for those little four-bangers to heat up the car. And heating up the cabin with an EV?
That drains the battery FASTER.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 04:14 PM (vcOmj)

274 Donald Trump is her God?

Because that is who deserves thanks for this vaccine, this soon.

Posted by: rd at September 27, 2021 04:11 PM (Z32m1)

Stop. Just...stop.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 04:14 PM (Mzdiz)

275
"You're young, I've been killed by: Nuclear war, global cooling, red dye #2, cyclamates, swine flu, Aids, food shortages, global warming, Y2K, Covid....

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 03:53 PM

I was lucky, i survived all those

then I ate an apple what had been sprayed with alar...

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 27, 2021 04:14 PM (DUIap)

276 Donald Trump is her God?

Because that is who deserves thanks for this vaccine, this soon.
Posted by: rd

In spite of that, I still think he was a great President.

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 04:14 PM (r1z5A)

277 How many spare medical experts are there in the National Guard anyway. I mean, it's like there's this untapped reservoir of superhumans who can step in at a moments notice to do anything and everything.

Why don't we just fire everybody and have this miracle service do everything. And it won't cost taxpayers any more than they're paying now! It's like the perpetual motion machine of labor.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 27, 2021 04:14 PM (aXxgO)

278 Years ago the Colorado Springs zoo had a large silverback brought in on loan in order to service the female resident which had come into her prime.
Service her he did, right up against the glass in a similar fashion to this video. His use of his legs to grab and manage her while she road cowgurl style was jealousy inspiring as he lay there, all day, taking his time, as a true professional would.
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at September 27, 2021 04:02 PM (LW36e)

The Paolo is most impressed

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2021 04:14 PM (mR6Gs)

279 Funny you should mention that. I just read a report that the auto-pilot features in Teslas actually produce more accidents due to the drivers being significantly less attentive.
They doze off.
Posted by: casual observer 0927 at September 27, 2021 04:13 PM (aAP3z)

I cannot believe how people could do that, but then again, I hate the mere idea of a self-driving car.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 04:15 PM (gCAC6)

280 142...Atomic test fallout for us geezers.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 27, 2021 03:55 PM (mD/uy)

Duck and cover, kids!
Tony, get under that desk!

Posted by: Flyover at September 27, 2021 04:15 PM (Rbu5d)

281 Yeah, cold weather will kill batteries. I don't care if they are Lithium, Lead acid, or what. Cold weather (below freezing) kills the chemical reaction to generate electricity in batteries.
And imagine millions of people charging their cars overnight. The load on the grid will be something to behold.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 04:06 PM (vcOmj)

Back in my Army RTO days *koff koff* years ago, we had battery extension cords for the PRC77 radios so that we could keep the batteries inside our clothes under the armpit when we were on winter exercises in Alaska. The newer lithium batteries that the Army was introducing then were a lot better with the cold, but the old-school batts would die in a heartbeat once the temp got down to below zero.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2021 04:11 PM (n+4am)
=============================
Ford doesn't want you to keep their shitty battery powered cars within 30 feet of a structure, for fear the flaming Ford will burn down your house. So how are you going to keep the car warm when it's -20F and the wind is blowing?

Posted by: rd at September 27, 2021 04:15 PM (Z32m1)

282 I was in early as a greenie

started selling antiques in the mid 60's

but the new tech put me out of business

Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2021 04:15 PM (us2H3)

283 I saw a few weeks ago Sundowner's budget was giving more money for electric car buyers

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2021 04:16 PM (2JoB8)

284
They already know that these mandates will allow the rich to drive cars that cost $25,000 per year to operate while the rest of us have to ride bicycles or ride busses stocked full of assholes.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 27, 2021 04:12 PM (l+ptU)

American commie cocksuckers look at photos of Peking's wide boulevards packed wall-to-wall with drably clothed proles on bicycles and they start spooging all over the place.

And yes, I'm purposely calling it Peking. Fuck calling it Beejer or whatever the hell they call it now.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 27, 2021 04:16 PM (n+4am)

285 I think the NG that hunted John Rambo in the Northwest woods had a Pharmacist amongst their ranks...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 27, 2021 04:16 PM (flINI)

286 Shouldn't the DOT require EV owners to obtain a hazardous waste permit and equip their vehicles with HAZMAT PPE? Why would any state allow a EV to cross state lines without inspection stations? When my EV battery takes a shit and starts leaking, I'm going to Utah or Nevada and dump that sucker in a barrow pit along side some long forgotten county road.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 27, 2021 04:17 PM (stUc+)

287 Anyone else hoping for a good CME right about now?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 04:17 PM (Mzdiz)

288 Nat gas prices exploded today.

Posted by: Wow at September 27, 2021 04:18 PM (fTlEK)

289 Chile begins vaccinating children ages 6 to 11
Children in Chile ages 6 to 11 began getting the first dose of the the COVID-19 vaccine on Monday, according to the country's health ministry.

On Sept. 6, Chile's Public Health Institute recommended that children 6 and older receive China's Sinovac vaccine.

Dear God, make this stop.
The children do not need the death jab. And the Chinese one is even more poisonous. What are they thinking. Parents? Wake up...

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:18 PM (2o90I)

290 197 147 - Zoo goers get a little more than they asked for at the gorilla exhibit. Semi NSFW.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Years ago the Colorado Springs zoo had a large silverback brought in on loan in order to service the female resident which had come into her prime.
Service her he did, right up against the glass in a similar fashion to this video. His use of his legs to grab and manage her while she road cowgurl style was jealousy inspiring as he lay there, all day, taking his time, as a true professional would.
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at September 27, 2021 04:02 PM (LW36e)

OMG, I am dying!!!!!!

Thanks for that much-needed laugh (insert smiley-face emoji here).

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at September 27, 2021 04:18 PM (SRRAx)

291 The greenest car is a used car. The end-to-end manufacturing will consume more energy than the car is likely to burn over its lifespan. Keeping a car - however much a gas-guzzler...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 27, 2021 04:02 PM (Jsjd7)

Yep, I only buy used cars any longer. Why not save at least 50% or more to boot? I also tend to drive them until the wheels fall off. By the time CA's getting close to its mandate, we're going to be feeling the effects of battery disposal. They've managed to keep the whole cobalt mine thing pretty darned quiet, but that's more than likely going to become an issue as well. Nothing remotely green about EV's.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 27, 2021 04:18 PM (wAnMi)

292 American commie cocksuckers look at photos of Peking's wide boulevards packed wall-to-wall with drably clothed proles on bicycles and they start spooging all over the place.

And yes, I'm purposely calling it Peking. Fuck calling it Beejer or whatever the hell they call it now.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

I was in Beijing 20 years ago, and the city was full of cars then. The air pollution was pretty bad, and cabs were MANDATED to used either CNG or CPG to power their cars to reduce pollution. 20 years ago.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2021 04:18 PM (vcOmj)

293 Schools are required to provide parents and guardians with data on the vaccine being used. Parents then must provide written consent for their child to receive the shot.

In the country, 87% of teens ages 16 to 17 have been vaccinated while 81% of 14- to 15-year-olds have been vaccinated. Fifty-seven percent of 12- to 13-year-olds have received the vaccine.

Chile

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:19 PM (2o90I)

294 288 Nat gas prices exploded today.
Posted by: Wow at September 27, 2021 04:18 PM (fTlEK)

and I thought they were gonna tank

Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2021 04:19 PM (us2H3)

295 Dear New York,

It is time to start the murdering times...

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 27, 2021 04:19 PM (l+ptU)

296 In our all-electric future, how does one generate personal emergency power -- i.e., running a portable generator?

A liberal extended family member in Northern California (who has solar panels on his roof) is subject to windstorm power outages when PG&E turns the power off to avoid forest fires. He backs up his house with a large natural gas generator.

How do you run a backup generator if you have zero fossil fuel diesel, gasoline or natural gas sources?

Posted by: Dan at September 27, 2021 04:19 PM (+NG5U)

297 I'm starting to get the feeling that we're not electing our best and brightest.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 27, 2021 04:20 PM (kTF2Z)

298 Do white people cross? And what about Canadians?....if you want limp wristed civilians that's your source.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 27, 2021 04:20 PM (T4sR0)

299 Funny you should mention that. I just read a report that the auto-pilot features in Teslas actually produce more accidents due to the drivers being significantly less attentive.
They doze off.
Posted by: casual observer 0927 at September 27, 2021 04:13 PM (aAP3z)

-----------------------------------
Self Driving cars don't.

They don't even let the electric light rail trains drive themselves, and they run on freaking tracks!

Posted by: rd at September 27, 2021 04:21 PM (Z32m1)

300 Study: Vaccinating Children Against COVID Makes Zero Sense; More Children Are Harmed by the Vaccines Than From COVID

A study published in Toxicology Reports on September 14, asks, "Why are we vaccinating children against COVID-19?" The study also poses the question, "Why are we vaccinating the elderly against COVID-19?" Researchers from Italy, Russia, Greece, Romania and the United States dissected the data on covid-19 infection in children and in the elderly.

They properly distinguished comorbidities in official covid-19 death statistics and compared survival rates from the infection with deaths associated with the covid-19 vaccine in relation to the total number of vaccinations administered.

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:21 PM (2o90I)

301 We keep surrendering to California standards on everything, why is there never any push back?

Posted by: Drew in MO at September 27, 2021 04:22 PM (cGlgB)

302 How do you run a backup generator if you have zero fossil fuel diesel, gasoline or natural gas sources?
Posted by: Dan at September 27, 2021 04:19 PM (+NG5U)

yabba dabba do

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 27, 2021 04:22 PM (yrol0)

303 Not a bad idea, but it might not be necessary yet. Once enough people move out of CA and NY for friendlier climes and they have to build a wall around Beverly HIlls to keep out the riff raff, this'll change.

Posted by: hurricane567 at September 27, 2021 04:22 PM (vg3ZQ)

304 Dan: "How do you run a backup generator if you have zero fossil fuel diesel, gasoline or natural gas sources?"

There you go being rational and asking questions. There's no place for that now. Please just obey.

Posted by: Your Betters at September 27, 2021 04:22 PM (aXxgO)

305 137
BREAKING: New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she will deploy medically trained National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight.

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (2o90I)

I'm just a moron, so forgive me if I'm not as smart as the big brained guv, but wouldn't National Guard troops who are qualified to work as healthcare workers, already be working as healthcare workers?

I mean, how many people working down at the Quik-E-Mart are qualified to work in a hospital?

Posted by: a.moron at September 27, 2021 04:23 PM (tu3iY)

306 This might sound like a fun idea, but I don't want anyone from the government mandating anything.

I also don't want anyone from the National guard treating me if I were to be hospitalized.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 27, 2021 04:23 PM (NpAcC)

307 So who the fuck are going to do the jobs the NG left due to the call up?!
Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 04:01 PM (r1z5A)

Haitians

Posted by: Archer at September 27, 2021 04:23 PM (gmo/4)

308 The internal combustion engine is the engine of freedom.
---
After watching the Uniparty for a good long while I am convinced it flat knows that the centralized electrical grid cannot sustain millions of EVs and because of that it will restrict access to EVs when the grid becomes overwhelmed. For the good of all and because it is the right thing to do for the planet. This observation coupled to the destruction of the decentralized fossil fuel transportation system, that can sustain millions of vehicles at a cost virtually everyone can afford, I am left to conclude the unstated goal of EVs is to deny private citizens the ability to move freely about. Sheep in the corral so to speak. Equitable punishments and rewards will then quickly replace the freedom and liberty.

Posted by: LostInSpace at September 27, 2021 04:23 PM (ESLBo)

309 NOT MAKING HEADLINES: AZ Audit Could Not Find the Identity of 86,391 Voters -- They Don't Appear to Exist and 73.8% Are Democrat or No Party Affiliation
thegatewaypundit

dead on arrival
complete blackout

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:23 PM (2o90I)

310 We keep surrendering to California standards on everything, why is there never any push back?
Posted by: Drew in MO

55 electoral votes.

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 04:24 PM (r1z5A)

311 O/T: Oh dear, doesn't look like they can blame this vaxx hesitancy on white nationalism. . .

https://tinyurl.com/msn8ma3k

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2021 04:24 PM (bDqIh)

312 How do you run a backup generator if you have zero fossil fuel diesel, gasoline or natural gas sources?
Posted by: Dan at September 27, 2021 04:19 PM (+NG5U)

If they go to 10% EVs in Cal up from 8% it will crash the grid!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 27, 2021 04:24 PM (yrol0)

313 Trust me.
I have had these dialogues with people I thought were smart.
Now...I no longer care about these people when the power stops.
Posted by: jdubyaAZ at September 27, 2021 04:12 PM (FQ2t6)

Same people that think meat comes from a styrofoam tray. Easily 1:5 cars in my city are Teslas, not an exaggeration. Can't go 30 seconds without seeing one. And to them, they just stop at local mall and park at the Tesla charging station, shop and have lunch, and they've got a charged car for free!

Half of them have license plates that make me want to take a tire iron to their faces.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 27, 2021 04:25 PM (wAnMi)

314 242 These fk nuts really want Civil War II don't they?
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (2JoB

At this point, so do I

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 27, 2021 04:25 PM (XvPQV)

315 Ever seen Soylent Green?

Posted by: Charlton Heston's Bicycle at September 27, 2021 04:25 PM (WmGrA)

316 We all know the Chinese laborers who probably average age of 14 will be the ones digging for the minerals. They say the Salton Lake area in California is rich in the minerals to make the battery's. but no way in hell would the state of California allow the mining.

Posted by: Colin at September 27, 2021 04:26 PM (ez4Ug)

317 I'm just a moron, so forgive me if I'm not as smart as the big brained guv, but wouldn't National Guard troops who are qualified to work as healthcare workers, already be working as healthcare workers?

I mean, how many people working down at the Quik-E-Mart are qualified to work in a hospital?
Posted by: a.moron at September 27, 2021 04:23 PM (tu3iY)

yes. most were deployed in various states to help with covid stuff. and many were ordered to active duty.
this is just robbing peter to pay paul.

Posted by: Jack Burton, not at all surprised at September 27, 2021 04:26 PM (QOFog)

318 Ever seen Soylent Green?

Posted by: Charlton Heston's Bicycle at September 27, 2021 04:25 PM (WmGrA)

The scoops! The scoops are coming!

Posted by: Archer at September 27, 2021 04:26 PM (gmo/4)

319 I also don't want anyone from the National guard treating me if I were to be hospitalized.
Posted by: redridinghood

Not to worry. You ain't vaxxed, you ain't get treated.

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 04:26 PM (r1z5A)

320 315 Ever seen Soylent Green?
Posted by: Charlton Heston's Bicycle at September 27, 2021 04:25 PM (WmGrA)

Made me want to shop for furniture...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 27, 2021 04:27 PM (XvPQV)

321 I hope the guard at least sharpens their bayonets...

Posted by: casual observer 0927 at September 27, 2021 04:27 PM (aAP3z)

322 I think we get the vast majority like whats going on in some industries and some schools. 97, 98%

I think were getting awful close, but Im not a scientist. A quarter of the country cant go unvaccinated.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 27, 2021 04:27 PM (yrol0)

323 Solvent Green is people! Famous saying at the end of the movie.

Posted by: Colin at September 27, 2021 04:28 PM (ez4Ug)

324 Driving is so strenuous, I hate it. I can't wait until they have technology that will do everything for us.

In a utopian world we will all just have a robotic unit attached to us the injects nutrients into our system so that we don't have to be bothered with eating, manual masterbates is so that we don't have to be bothered with sex and projects "Ouch, My Balls" videos directly into our cerebral cortex 24/7.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 27, 2021 04:28 PM (5We2S)

325 Some Rat: "Not to worry. You ain't vaxxed, you ain't get treated."

I feel better already. Not inoculated and not treated by someone who can't administer an inoculation. Win-win.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 27, 2021 04:28 PM (aXxgO)

326 315 Ever seen Soylent Green?
Posted by: Charlton Heston's Bicycle at September 27, 2021 04:25 PM (WmGrA)

you gaddam dirty aips

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 27, 2021 04:28 PM (yrol0)

327 Had my wellness checkup this afternoon. Of course she asked me if I had the covid vaccine yet. I said no and asked politely why not? I said because I'm just not sure about it yet and I am not impressed that it's FDA approved. The FDA is just another corrupt alphabet agency. The look on her face lol!

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 27, 2021 04:28 PM (nxdel)

328 These fk nuts really want Civil War II don't they?
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2021 04:10 PM (2JoB

At this point, so do I
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 27, 2021 04:25 PM (XvPQV)

It's what I said about Trump ordering the military to put down Antifa - if they were going to disobey his orders, better to find out sooner than later.

If we are to have CW2, then do it now. Better to go down in flames now, if we must, than do a Solzenhitsyn ten years from now, wailing that we should have taken care of the bastards when we could.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2021 04:28 PM (2JVJo)

329 Dang. Commander Cody dead at 77.

https://tinyurl.com/cfsbe9v6

Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 04:29 PM (ZsR3z)

330 EXCLUSIVE: The Clintons, Bushs, and Obamas Back a Fundraising Shill in a 1-Room New York Apartment Welcoming Afghans in the US

'Welcome.US' is a fundraising shill for the U.S. resettlement of Afghan refugees.

The State Department's September 14th press release announced it is partnering with Welcome.US charity.

Honestly, they all need to be given their addresses and told that is where they'll be squatting for free.

Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 04:29 PM (2o90I)

331 YEE-HAAAH!

@Breaking911
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BREAKING: Judge rules Arizona's ban on mask mandates in schools unconstitutional - KPHO

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 27, 2021 04:29 PM (1t5dY)

332 It's what I said about Trump ordering the military to put down Antifa - if they were going to disobey his orders, better to find out sooner than later.

If we are to have CW2, then do it now. Better to go down in flames now, if we must, than do a Solzenhitsyn ten years from now, wailing that we should have taken care of the bastards when we could.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 27, 2021 04:28 PM (2JVJo)

Indeed

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at September 27, 2021 04:29 PM (XvPQV)

333
Dang. Commander Cody dead at 77.

https://tinyurl.com/cfsbe9v6

Posted by: pep at September 27, 2021 04:29 PM

another grim milestone for the biden administration

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 27, 2021 04:29 PM (DUIap)

334 No.

Tax EVs at a rate of 5-10K per year. This would help offset the free rider problem of skirting road maintenance via the gas tax.

And because the EV supply chain is immature and a net carbon add over regular cars, an additional 5-10K per year.

Posted by: MJ at September 27, 2021 04:29 PM (zwDuR)

335 260...My vaccination necklace consist of the finger bones of those holding the syringes. It loops around my neck several times to prevent it from tripping me.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 04:12 PM (Mzdiz)

[nods]
[takes notes]

Posted by: Flyover at September 27, 2021 04:30 PM (Rbu5d)

336 Even when I use cruise control I halfway expect it to not work, so I'm even more alert when I use it.

Posted by: casual observer 0927 at September 27, 2021 04:30 PM (aAP3z)

337 Bitter Clinger: "In a utopian world we will all just have a robotic unit attached to us the injects nutrients into our system so that we don't have to be bothered with eating, manual masterbates is so that we don't have to be bothered with sex and projects 'Ouch, My Balls' videos directly into our cerebral cortex 24/7."

And that's how we got The Matrix.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 27, 2021 04:30 PM (aXxgO)

338 BREAKING: New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she will deploy medically trained National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight. Posted by: artisanal ette at September 27, 2021 03:54 PM (2o90I)
I'm just a moron, so forgive me if I'm not as smart as the big brained guv, but wouldn't National Guard troops who are qualified to work as healthcare workers, already be working as healthcare workers? I mean, how many people working down at the Quik-E-Mart are qualified to work in a hospital? Posted by: a.moron at September 27, 2021 04:23 PM (tu3iY)

Those of us who have read our history (which is pretty much every moron here) saw this play out in Mao's China, just with a different excuse. Replace the doctors with that guy who runs the pastry shop, and replace the farmers with those seamstresses. Should all work out just fine. Yeah, wait until we replace the airline mechanics and pilots too.

They're fine living in their safe little bubbles dictating to the rest of us. For now.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 27, 2021 04:30 PM (wAnMi)

339 >>>In a utopian world we will all just have a robotic unit attached to us the injects nutrients into our system so that we don't have to be bothered with eating, manual masterbates is so that we don't have to be bothered with sex and projects "Ouch, My Balls" videos directly into our cerebral cortex 24/7.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 27, 2021 04:28 PM (5We2S)

======

See, this guy gets it.

Posted by: The Matrix at September 27, 2021 04:30 PM (8TpiG)

340 Yep, I only buy used cars any longer. Why not save at least 50% or more to boot? I also tend to drive them until the wheels fall off. By the time CA's getting close to its mandate, we're going to be feeling the effects of battery disposal. They've managed to keep the whole cobalt mine thing pretty darned quiet, but that's more than likely going to become an issue as well. Nothing remotely green about EV's.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 27, 2021 04:18 PM (wAnMi)

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Hopefully they will be able to reprocess Lithium Batteries like they reprocess Lead Acid Batteries.

We used batteries for emergency power supplies at a facility I worked at. There were years where we replaced 60 or even 120 x 100-450 lb battery cells. Yes, TONS of Batteries. The lead and acid was all reprocessed into new batteries, and some of the lead probably went into bullets too.

Please dispose of all your batteries properly.

Posted by: rd at September 27, 2021 04:30 PM (Z32m1)

341 326 315 Ever seen Soylent Green?
Posted by: Charlton Heston's Bicycle at September 27, 2021 04:25 PM (WmGrA)

You�maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! God damn you all to hell!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 27, 2021 04:30 PM (yrol0)

342 nood

Posted by: Roy at September 27, 2021 04:31 PM (Ti+Tv)

343 Nood. Quick hits.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 27, 2021 04:32 PM (gCAC6)

344 ((psst that was Planet of the Apes.))

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 27, 2021 04:32 PM (xopIz)

345 Yeah, wait until we replace the airline mechanics and pilots too.

They're fine living in their safe little bubbles dictating to the rest of us. For now.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 27, 2021 04:30 PM (wAnMi)

This bridge engineered by a non heteronormative non white BIPOC GLAD Scholarship They.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 27, 2021 04:33 PM (yrol0)

346 Taxation is about punishing enemies and rewarding friends.

The sooner we realize this the better.

Posted by: MJ at September 27, 2021 04:34 PM (zwDuR)

347 Please dispose of all your batteries properly.
Posted by: rd at September 27, 2021 04:30 PM (Z32m1)

On a positive note, Toyota announced they have a solid state battery and will begin testing it - now. Target to have on the market in 3-5 years. THAT would be a game changer, and probably why Toyota hadn't announced jumping on the bandwagon with VW, Nissan, etc.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 27, 2021 04:34 PM (wAnMi)

348 287...287 Anyone else hoping for a good CME right about now?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 27, 2021 04:17 PM (Mzdiz)

Honestly, Duchess, I've thought about this very thing. Or an emp...

Posted by: Flyover at September 27, 2021 04:34 PM (Rbu5d)

349 Those of us who have read our history (which is pretty much every moron here) saw this play out in Mao's China, just with a different excuse. Replace the doctors with that guy who runs the pastry shop, and replace the farmers with those seamstresses. Should all work out just fine. Yeah, wait until we replace the airline mechanics and pilots too.

They're fine living in their safe little bubbles dictating to the rest of us. For now.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead

Sadly, Maos China is STILL Moas China. You can bet the personal the elites needed, weren't subjected to the same rules, as it is fast becoming in our Nation.

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 04:35 PM (r1z5A)

350 Those of us who have read our history (which is pretty much every moron here) saw this play out in Mao's China, just with a different excuse. Replace the doctors with that guy who runs the pastry shop, and replace the farmers with those seamstresses. Should all work out just fine. Yeah, wait until we replace the airline mechanics and pilots too.They're fine living in their safe little bubbles dictating to the rest of us. For now.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at September 27, 2021 04:30 PM (wAnMi)

clutch: the guard is made up of people from the community. they aren't federal troops, though many were. most left regular active duty because of lifestyle/deployment/family etc.
worked with a lot of guard. in my opinion, lots of down to earth men and women who are not beholden to the almighty bi-monthly pay check and evaluation reports that regular military folks sweat.
and in my state i have seen the guard out doing testing, medical surge, vaccinations and running food banks. i'm not too worried about them plussing up hospitals.

Posted by: Jack Burton, not at all surprised at September 27, 2021 04:35 PM (QOFog)

351 If EVs were so practical, the problem would take care of itself, now, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Emmie at September 27, 2021 04:36 PM (6RgRK)

352 296...How do you run a backup generator if you have zero fossil fuel diesel, gasoline or natural gas sources?
Posted by: Dan at September 27, 2021 04:19 PM (+NG5U)

You don't.
That'sthe plan.

Posted by: Flyover at September 27, 2021 04:37 PM (Rbu5d)

353 Couple things:

1. How long does Kathy plan to have these NG people deployed as healthcare workers? In perpetuity?

2. Friend of mine told me today she was looking at jobs and a lot of places are now stating "vaccine required" in the postings.

Stop the world; I want off.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at September 27, 2021 04:37 PM (iydjf)

354 Ever seen Soylent Green?
Posted by: Charlton Heston's Bicycle at September 27, 2021 04:25 PM (WmGrA)

That Apartment had great "Furniture" didn't it?

Posted by: rd at September 27, 2021 04:38 PM (Z32m1)

355 If EVs were so practical, the problem would take care of itself, now, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Emmie

Wait! Chism Bop isn't part of every schools curriculum?

Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 04:38 PM (r1z5A)

356 Saw Commander Cody at Knebworth 1979

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2021 04:39 PM (2JoB8)

357 How to call for a civil war without actually admitting you're calling for a civil war.

Posted by: SDN at September 27, 2021 04:39 PM (4UJrj)

358 Ever seen Soylent Green?
Posted by: Charlton Heston's Bicycle at September 27, 2021 04:25 PM (WmGrA)

That Apartment had great "Furniture" didn't it?
Posted by: rd at September 27, 2021 04:38 PM (Z32m1)

And a standalone PONG video game

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2021 04:41 PM (mR6Gs)

359 Electric 18 Wheelers and Electric Construction Vehicles/Equipment, or the Earth will burn from Anthropomorphic Climate Change.

Posted by: Go Big or Go Home at September 27, 2021 04:43 PM (+nWCH)

360 clutch: the guard is made up of people from the community. they aren't federal troops, though many were. most left regular active duty because of lifestyle/deployment/family etc.
worked with a lot of guard. in my opinion, lots of down to earth men and women who are not beholden to the almighty bi-monthly pay check and evaluation reports that regular military folks sweat.
and in my state i have seen the guard out doing testing, medical surge, vaccinations and running food banks. i'm not too worried about them plussing up hospitals.
Posted by: Jack Burton, not at all surprised at September 27, 2021 04:35 PM (QOFog)

YES. Lots of god people. they sometimes have to leave their families and go out into storms and disasters with no notice. They get sent overseas for 6vmonths and more to fight our wars in the f'd up Mideast. The MN Guard kept the idiots from burning down the other 4 MPD Precinct houses with the rest of Minneapolis and Saint Paul after Governor Fuck Nuts Walz dawdled and Minneapolis burned for 4 days after George Floyd OD'd.

The problem is the NG medical specialists are probably 95% currently employed doing medical work already.

Posted by: rd at September 27, 2021 04:46 PM (Z32m1)

361 Sadly, Maos China is STILL Moas China. You can bet the personal the elites needed, weren't subjected to the same rules, as it is fast becoming in our Nation.
Posted by: Some Rat at September 27, 2021 04:35 PM (r1z5A)

President for Life XI Jin Ping is reasserting the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist Purity. The Billionaire Chinese Oligarchs are being reined in. They have been "encouraged" to contribute to "charities" run by the Chinese Communist Party. People like Gates, Zuckerberg, and other US Billionaires have helped XI encourage the Chinese Billionaires. Chinese celebrities are being unpersoned and removed from Chinese Social media, news, and Chinese life. Xi even purged his Communist Party rivals too.

Soon the only powerful Chinese overlords will be the Chinese Communist Party Apparatchiks, just like the good old days in the 1960's to 1980's Communist China.

Posted by: rd at September 27, 2021 04:57 PM (Z32m1)

362 Wouldn't it just be easier to shut off the pipelines at the NY and CA borders.?

NOW

Posted by: Pinochets Loadmaster at September 27, 2021 05:04 PM (a48q1)

363 Given that the US government can madate everyone must purchase Health Insurance, it only makes sense that states have the power to mandate vehicle purchases.

AND drivers licenses.

Posted by: Mirror Universe Phil Collins at September 27, 2021 05:20 PM (A2eXZ)

364 USA in 2055 will look like Cuba with 20+ year old gas powered cars being the only cars on the road

Posted by: Bang-a-gong at September 27, 2021 06:29 PM (Qc+Wp)

365 It's really nothing new. In 2005-2006 Jeep offered the Liberty model with a diesel engine, the CRD. The diesel Jeep was prohibited from being sold as a new car in Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, New York, and California due to [state] politics. But the diesel Jeeps could be registered in those states as used cars.

FWIW, Jeep only sold 20,000 diesel Liberties in the U.S., but they sold a lot of them in other countries.

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