Aaarrrrrr! ''Tis Ye Sunday Morning Book Thread 09-19-2021

"Ahoy! Prepare To Be Boarded, Ye Scurvy Dogs!"

What Day Be It?

Shiver me timbers! As some of ye know, today be Talk Like A Pirate Day, so 'tis no wonder if ye ketch a pirate theme runnin' through today's thread. There be several online English-t'-pyrate translators available, so aft some experimentin', I decided that this one seemed t' be th' best, even though th' ads be annoyin'. So if ye want t' get into th' spirit o' th' day, ye can first run yer comments through th' translator and then post th' output as yer actual comment. So break out a barrel o' grog and let's set sail! Yo ho ho!

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Good mornin' t' all ye 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who be technically breakin' th' rules), buccaneers, mutineers, old salts, drunken sailors, and saucy wenches. Welcome once again t' th' stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Mornin' Book Thread, a weekly compendium o' reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuin' conversation on books, readin', spendin' way too many doubloons on books, writin' books, and publishin' books, by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read, I'll warrant ye. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, th' Sunday Mornin' Book Thread be so hoity-toity, pantaloons be required. Even if 'tis these pantaloons which may look like wench's clothin' t' ye lubbers, but 'tis not, I be tellin' ye, 'tis not. Only th' manliest o' manly pirates can wear these togs. And ye'd better believe it when I be tellin' ye I've cracked more Jenny's teacups than ye can shake a stick at, I swear 'tis true, and if I hear any o' ye morons laughin', ye'll all be dancin' with Jack Ketch 'afore nightfall!

Or this:

It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

Brazenhead Books, NYC (Now Closed)

A Pirate Bookstore? Just Say Aaaaaarrrr!

Guy named Michael Seidenberg once started up a small bookstore in NYC (Brooklyn). You wouldn't believe what happened next:

Mr. Seidenberg’s path to becoming a literary hero was an unlikely one. He opened Brazenhead Books in Brooklyn in the late 1970s. Shortly after, he moved his store to the Upper East Side but eventually lost his lease. Unable to afford another storefront, he relocated his heaps of books into the apartment he was living in down the block and, as he plied his trade selling paperbacks on city streets over the next decade, the heaps grew into mountainous piles. In 2007, he pursued the radical idea of operating a bookstore out of his rent-controlled apartment...His secret bookstore became a haven for book lovers who knew its address, and it was famed for its blurry salons that lasted until daybreak.

Now, ye might be askin', how were people supposed t' be knowin' whar this pirate bookstore be hidin'? Swab the deck, matey, it be like a ghost ship! Well, pretty much by word o' mouth, and p'raps a bucket o' chum. Ye had t' be knowin' somebody who knew somebody. Shiver me timbers! There were bein' an "in" crowd, scurvy knaves who hung out there a lot. As well as sellin' some beautiful barnacle-covered books, Seidenberg hosted weekly salons, whar regulars and new visitors alike hung out until th' early hours o' th' mornin', talkin', leafin' through books, listenin' t' music and drinkin' cup after cup o' rum. Fire the cannons! But by 2014, th' address had become too well known, which led t' his eviction. Th' followin' year, Seidenberg reopened th' store in another apartment on th' Upper East Side and operated it by appointment only.

Seidenberg went to Davy Jones' locker in 2019.

Who Dis:

Last week's who dis was actress Marilyn Monroe, of whom there a number of photos wherein she is reading a book, or posing with books. I gather that either she, or the studios she worked for, wanted to dispel the notion that she was just a dumb blonde.

A Pirate-Themed Novel By George MacDonald Fraser

In The Pyrates: A Swashbuckling Comic Novel By The Creator Of Flashman, the author of the celebrated Flashman novels pays tongue-in-cheek homage to the swashbuckling books and movies that have always stirred his imagination. In these rollicking pages you'll find tall ships and desert islands; impossibly gallant adventurers and glamorous heroines; devilishly sinister cads and ghastly dungeons; improbably acrobatic duels and hair's-breadth escapes; and more plot twists than you can shake a rapier at.

"It’s 400 pages of non-stop adventure and satire with intentional anachronisms and more heroes than it’s possible for one story to hold." -- The Ol' Chumbucket.

Available in hardcover and paperback editions. There does not appear to be any digital editions.

BasedCon Book Sale

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— Hans G. Schantz ???? (@AetherCzar) September 15, 2021

More info, including sale book blurbs, at Hans' site.

Pyrate History

Shiver me timbers! I did not not know that Daniel DeFoe (Robinson Crusoe, Moll Flanders) also wrote about pyrates, to wit: A General History of the Pyrates:

As a commission merchant, importer, shipowner, and an active journalist who reported "ship news" and interviewed surviving pirates, Defoe achieved a high degree of authority on the subject of buccaneers. His knowledge was such that his book, A General History of the Pyrates, remains the major source of information about piracy in the first quarter of the 18th century.

Reprinted here in its entirety, this fascinating history abounds in tales of flamboyant outlaws and their bloody deeds: Captain Edward Teach, alias Blackbeard; Captain William Kidd, whose trial and execution created a sensation throughout London and the world; Bartholomew Roberts, one of the most successful pirates of the era, whose crews captured an estimated 400 prizes in three years; Mary Read and Anne Bonny, who disguised themselves as men to sail under the Jolly Roger with the ill-fated Captain John Rackham; and many more.

An engrossing blend of fact and fiction — incorporating Defoe's celebrated flair for journalistic detail — these lively tales of seafaring rogues and rascals and their ill-gotten gains will captivate armchair sailors, maritime enthusiasts and any lover of adventure on the high seas.

I linked to the Dover Maritime Edition (whatever that is), which is $13.77 for the Kindle version and $22 the paperback edition, but there are other, less expensive, versions available. Like $0.00.

A Pirate-Themed YA Novel

One of the guys who started Talk Like A Pirate Day back in 2002 has written a pirate-themed YA novel, Chrissie Warren: Pirate Hunter:

When Chrissie Warren's sailor father is captured by pirates, the 13-year-old girl disguises herself as a boy and signs aboard a Caribbean-bound merchant ship to find and rescue her father. With the help of unexpected friends she survives attacks at sea, fights and the press gang to track down the pirates. On the way, she discovers – herself.

Might be fun. Sounds like the same character arc as Mulan, not the remake, but the original. Which is not necessarily a bad thing for having been used before. The Kindle edition is $2.99.

Moron Recommendations

I'm lazy, so I will just cut and paste this e-mail I received:

The Fall 2021 issue of Cirsova is out. Cirsova is for tales of "thrilling adventure and daring suspense," all with a pulp sensibility -- sword & sorcery, weird SF, horror, and the like.

I have a story in it, called "Dead Neighbor": "Armed with only his wits and his experimental Existential Motion Detection Device, a man is determined to discover exactly what has become of his neighbor!

I think the denizens of the Book Thread will enjoy it.

Cirsova Magazine of Thrilling Adventure and Daring Suspense Issue #8 / Fall 2021 is available on Kindle for $3.99. The blurbs for the stories are at the Amazon link.

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Another recommended book, which I downloaded for free from gutenberg.org, is Alice Duer Miller's novel "Manslaughter". Miller was a popular novelist in the 1920s and 1930s, later a popular screenwriter, and part of the "New Yorker" literati, though her work is largely forgotten nowadays. (She has a cameo in Harpo Marx's memoirs.) But she wrote very well, and "Manslaughter", IMHO, is a masterpiece. Her style could be called Hemingway-esque, except that she predates Hemingway by a decade. The novel is a story of the spiritual redemption of a spoiled, wealthy young woman. Well worth reading.

Posted by: Nemo at September 05, 2021 08:48 AM (S6ArX)

The are a number of editions of Manslaughter on Amazon, and the blurb for one of them is just a short biography of Miller, part of which reads:

Alice was a successful social activist, and brought attention to issues through her work. She published, in the New York Tribune, a bitingly clever and satirical series of poems on women's suffrage. These were then published in 1915 as ‘Are Women People?’ A further collection on the subject ‘Women Are People!’ followed in 1917.

So I guess you can call Alice an Edwardian SJW, species: feminist. NTTAWWT. But if you want to do your bit to smash the matriarchy, you can download the free version.

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Robert, a moron lurker recommends Donald Westlake's comic novel Under An English Heaven: The Remarkable True Story of the 1969 British Invasion of Anguilla, which he describes as "a cross between Herman Wouk and the Marx brothers with a splash of Monty Python for taste, all filtered through the dry wit of Donald Westlake". Some of you may recognize Westlake as the author of the 'Dortmunder' novels. This book, however, is

...a factual (and farcical) tale of bloodless rebellion when an unimportant British colony suddenly finds itself nominally free, but factually thrust into the arms of a petty dictator. All the Anguillans want is a return to their former status quo as loyal yet neglected subjects, a desire which both their new political overlord and their former colonial masters refuse to understand and actively thwart.

Robert liked this book because it "makes othink about hard questions pertaining to statehood, the nature of colonialism and it's ultimate demise, and the basic rights of people to free association and self determination."

And the Kindle edition is only $4.99.

Books By Morons

Lurking moron author 'Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader' e-mailed me earlier this week to tell me about his new fantasy/western novel, High Moon, which is Book 2 of The Sixaway Star series, which the author tells me is a cross between Brandon Sanderson and Louis L'Amour:

Madigan Moore might have come to Bone Creek just to help out a friend, but next thing he knew was sheriff of the whole county. That might not be so bad, except for all the dark goings-on in Bone Creek: Prisoners escaping from jail in impossible ways, an old mentor who vanished with no trace, an orphan girl who arrives in town looking for someone who doesn’t seem to exist… and that’s not to mention the mysterious person (or worse) lurking around the town, killing cattle and drinking their blood.

Now Madigan has to try and wrap his head around the problems facing Bone Creek, and fast – before he and his magical weapons are dragged into a supernatural showdown he might not survive!

The Kindle edition is $2.99.

If you missed the first book in the series, The Quick and the Undead, the Kindle edition is available for a limited-time sale price of 99 cents.

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So that's all fer this week, maties! As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, treasure mats, pieces o' eight, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent t' OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at th' book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by th' 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have ye swabs all been readin' this week? Hopefully somethin' good, because, as ye all be knowin', life be too short t' be readin' lousy books. Aaaarrrrrhhh!

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM

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Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 08:00 AM (2JoB8)

2 Currently on a re-read of the Elemental Masters series. I am on book 10 now.

Posted by: Vic at September 19, 2021 08:00 AM (mpXpK)

3 Had a hard time getting the tread to open.

Posted by: Vic at September 19, 2021 08:01 AM (mpXpK)

4 Arrr Mates

Read I did not this week!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:01 AM (yrol0)

5 Who Dis is Amber Heard's punching bag, Johnny Depp, playing Jack Sparrow.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 19, 2021 08:01 AM (PiwSw)

6 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

I do believe the pant-wearing seadog is Edward "Blackbeard" Teach.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2021 08:01 AM (2JVJo)

7 Ahoy, Mateys...How goes it? Lootin' and plunderin' as usual, I hope...

No real reading for me this week, though I'm working my way through Asimov's The Current of Space (second in the Empire trilogy).

I'm also reading student submissions for an assignment. Some are pretty good. Some are not quite so good. It's hard to grade a "blah" paper that has NO content to generate interest...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 19, 2021 08:02 AM (K5n5d)

8 Arrrr!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 19, 2021 08:02 AM (PiwSw)

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My reading of pirate literature consists of "Treasure Island" and "Captain Blood". Years ago, too. That is all.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 08:03 AM (+2sc/)

10 Nice Pirate Ship!

Those pantaloons...what ya gonna do?

The Who Dis is Johnny Depp when his old lady ain't smacking him around and choking him out.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 19, 2021 08:04 AM (R/m4+)

11 There some people in MSM that need to be keelhauled. Just saying.

Posted by: dantesed at September 19, 2021 08:04 AM (88xKn)

12 Whats the Armys version of Keelhaul? I think Milley needs a go at that.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:05 AM (yrol0)

13 Horde summoned
Tolle Lege
Well past Did Mo Exist by Robert Spencer, his case is if he did not much immediate record of him can be proved and what wasn't known of him probably was made up long after him.

Also at the used book store picked up a little gem to me, a reprint of Manual for Engineer Troops
By Capt J.C. Duane 1862
With drawings, as a goal is a scratch building to 15mm scale pontoon bridge it will be handy.

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 08:05 AM (2JoB8)

14 Good morning, ya scurvy dogs. I hope everyone had a great week of reading after daily raiding, bloodshed and stealing treasure.

Posted by: JTB at September 19, 2021 08:07 AM (7EjX1)

15 So, as I said in the other thread, this is a rare Sunday wherein I am neither drunk nor depressed. Why?

Because I have FINALLY FINISHED my new Theda Bara novel! (this is also going into the GAINNNZ thread, whenever that may be).

It is a happy occasion, but also sad, because it's taken me nearly 20 years to get to this point, and I should have been able to put out at least two or three other books in all this time. So I am happy for myself, but in the words of Alan Jay Lerner, it's a glass of champagne rimmed with aloes.

Anyway, I have set it aside for a few days, then I am going to give it a polish and send it out for feedback. I have a group of people interested in reading it, but if you'd like to be included, send me an e-mail through my nic and I'll make sure to send a file your way in a week or so.

Hooray for me!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2021 08:07 AM (2JVJo)

16 I did look for The Yellow Admiral but it wasn't there.

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 08:07 AM (2JoB8)

17 Happy Talk Like a Pirate Day, ye biscuit eaters!

My pirate phrase of the day is: Crack Jenny's Teacup

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 19, 2021 08:08 AM (Dc2NZ)

18 'Eromero, get your ass over to the Class Six and grab 3 cases of beer, a quart of Bacardi, and 2 no get 3 quarts of George Dickel before they close. We have a softball game as soon as all this equipment if gassed up for tomorrow.'

Posted by: Eromero at September 19, 2021 08:08 AM (0OP+5)

19 I would also like to endorse The Pyrates, which is a non-stop parody of every pirate story and swashbuckler movie, written by a man who had read and seen just about all of them! Definitely worth the read, I laughed my butt off all the way through it.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 08:08 AM (W+kMI)

20 Keelhauling, at least the first definition, was a great punishment suitable for the joint chiefs. And Powell; definitely Powell...

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 19, 2021 08:08 AM (y7DUB)

21 Yay MP4

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 19, 2021 08:09 AM (PiwSw)

22 I do not think the dutch invented keel hauling. The ancient Greeks had keel hauling way back in the day.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 08:09 AM (JUOKG)

23 Aaarg. The only pirate-themed book I own is "The Invisible Hook." The title is word play based on Adam Smith's "invisible hand" and it is, as you might have guessed, an entertaining examination of the economics of piracy. I bought it many years ago and can't recall if I finished it, but remember it fondly. It also gets good reviews.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 19, 2021 08:09 AM (fTtFy)

24 Hooray for me!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2021 08:07 AM (2JVJo)

Hooray indeed!!!

Posted by: grammie winger at September 19, 2021 08:10 AM (45fpk)

25 Congratulations, MP4!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 19, 2021 08:10 AM (Dc2NZ)

26 Black Sails, the TV series set in pirate haven Nassau, is mostly good. It distills many of the histories of the period.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 19, 2021 08:10 AM (ZHVt1)

27 My wife and I have agreement she is to shoot me if I ever leave the house wearing dress socks with topsiders.

https://tinyurl.com/4tn6kzvt

I shall add cuffed shorts to the rule.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:10 AM (yrol0)

28 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2021 08:07 AM (2JVJo)

I'm so happy to hear your most excellent news!

Posted by: grammie winger at September 19, 2021 08:11 AM (45fpk)

29 What do you do with a drunken sailor?
What do you do with a drunken sailor?
Oh, what do you do with a drunken sailor, early in the mornin'?

Put him in charge of an Exxon tanker, put him in charge of an Exxon tanker.....!

Posted by: Cicero, Kaboom! Kid, bonafide pirate. at September 19, 2021 08:11 AM (n/szn)

30 22 I do not think the dutch invented keel hauling. The ancient Greeks had keel hauling way back in the day.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 08:09 AM (JUOKG)

I think the society that perfects a way to kill people get the honor of naming said.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:11 AM (yrol0)

31 I guess I can come up with one pirate-themed recommendation: The King's Buccaneer by Raymond E. Feist. It's a standalone novel set in his impressive Riftwar Saga universe.

Mysterious assailants from across the sea burn down the coastal town of Crydee and carry off many of the townsfolk, including the Duke's daughter. Prince Nicholas, a visiting noble, and Amos Trask, once a former pirate, now Admiral of the Prince of Krondor, set out to rescue the townsfolk. To do that, they have to become buccaneers, raiders, and mercenaries. It's the only way they can hide from the dark mystical powers that seek to prevent the rescue.

It's one of Feist's best novels, I think. There's tons of adventure, intrigue, and even some romance. The characters of Amos Trask, Nicholas, and Nakor (the BLUE RIDER!) are believable and fun. The horrors they face are terrifying. Just good stuff, really.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 19, 2021 08:11 AM (K5n5d)

32 Yo ho ho!

Posted by: Biden's Dog at September 19, 2021 08:12 AM (UrhDa)

33 Morons and cabin fever.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at September 19, 2021 08:12 AM (UrhDa)

34 I tried the female pirate name generator and got a couple doozies (floozies?):

Florrie 'Blunder' Bush

Isabella 'One Legged' Nutlee

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 19, 2021 08:13 AM (Dc2NZ)

35 One thing Robert Spencer has persuade me is not to read the Qur'an, he says it's like listening in a conversation of two people and nobody explaining any of it.

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 08:13 AM (2JoB8)

36 32 Yo ho ho!
Posted by: Biden's Dog at September 19, 2021 08:12 AM (UrhDa)

Who you callin' ho?

Posted by: The Vice President of the United States at September 19, 2021 08:13 AM (PiwSw)

37 George McDonald Fraser is a treasure. Also try Mr American and Quartered Safe Out Here.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 19, 2021 08:13 AM (ZHVt1)

38 Because I have FINALLY FINISHED my new Theda Bara novel!

So, when it's going up on Amazon?

Congrats, MP4.

Posted by: dantesed at September 19, 2021 08:13 AM (88xKn)

39 Pirate captains don't have libraries?

The picture of Brazenhead books makes me nostalgic for the now closed used bookstores near me. I loves going and scouring the shelves for something unusual.
Now only one remains and it's a bit of a drive, so I rarely go

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 08:13 AM (ONvIw)

40 ha!

The World Health Organization has informed The Associated Press of their refusal to release the vaccination records of their employees.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:13 AM (yrol0)

41 And girl pirates wear their own pantaloons, and look all the better for it, thank ye kindly. If ye no believe me, then hasten to the Ohio Renaissance Festival today to see the living proof of it!

Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 08:13 AM (W+kMI)

42 Great news, MP4!!

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 08:14 AM (ONvIw)

43 Someone may have mentioned it above, but the vocal styling we call "pirate" today was essentially invented by English actor Robert Newton. He played Long John Silver in the 1950 Disney Treasure Island, and the "Arrr, mateys!" stuff came from that role.

I'm re-reading my Donald Hamilton Matt Helms as well as the non-series crime novels he wrote in the '40s and '50s like The Steel Mirror, Line of Fire, and Night Walker. I have another that I am looking forward to, Assassins Have Starry Eyes -- a silly title, but a good novel as I recall. His first-person narration in a lot of these is basically the same style he adopted for the Helm spy stories. I haven't yet been able to find a copy of his Westerns like The Big Country.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:14 AM (c6xtn)

44 That be Johnny Depp, channeling Keith Richards.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 19, 2021 08:14 AM (ZHVt1)

45 Always heard the Dutch started it, and a Greek galley wasn't that big to not make it.

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 08:14 AM (2JoB8)

46 I've been following the 100 Days of Dante that was mentioned a couple of weeks ago. We are up through Canto 5 of the Inferno. So far, the lectures have been decent in providing context and pointing out literary aspects of the writing.

I'm reading both the Dorothy Sayers version and the John Ciardi translation and can't decide which I prefer: Ciardi's more modern wording and blank verse or Sayers' 'thee' and 'thou' and her ABA rhyme scheme. Both have their merits. I do like Sayers' introductory notes. They remind me of CS Lewis' 'Preface to Paradise Lost' for context and scope. (Lewis' Preface is a masterpiece and unlikely to be bettered.)

The problem with projects like 100 Days of Dante is it leads down so many other paths. I've already dug out my Fagles translation of 'The Aeneid' to be read after Dante. All the emphasis Dante puts on Virgil caught my attention.

Posted by: JTB at September 19, 2021 08:14 AM (7EjX1)

47 Arg that pirate in the pantaloons be standing on an alligator arg.

Posted by: f'd at September 19, 2021 08:15 AM (Tnijr)

48
This week I listened to the audiobook of Larry McMurthy's "Lonesome Dove", read by Walter Kandinsky. Having watched the miniseries about six times prior to this, I have to confess that I appreciated how many more of the characters were fleshed out in the written version and there were some surprises left out of the miniseries on the interpersonal relations front, too. Once I finished listening to the audiobook, I watched the miniseries again. The story held up, but I really appreciate the visuals and music of the miniseries. I very much enjoyed this.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 08:15 AM (+2sc/)

49
McMurtry

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 08:16 AM (+2sc/)

50 37 George McDonald Fraser is a treasure. Also try Mr American and Quartered Safe Out Here.
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His three MacAuslan books have been collected into a single volume. I state this for fact because I won it. The old British army was a lot of fun, at least in middle-aged retrospect. Fun stories of post WW II life, centered around the supposedly dirtiest soldier that ever served, and translating Glaswegian to English is a good mental exercise.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 08:16 AM (W+kMI)

51 I am still reading John MacArthur's commentary on the Book of Revelation. Last week I was in Chapter One, verse 14. This week I got all the way to Chapter One, verse 15b. The b is very important. It shows I'm whizzing along.

I am at the point where John the Apostle is describing what he sees and hears from Jesus. Specifically, the voice of Jesus, which is said to be like the voice of many waters. Like the waves crashing against the shores of Patmos.

The same voice that will call the dead from their graves. I love that.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 19, 2021 08:17 AM (45fpk)

52 Congratulations to MP4 for completing his novel. There is nothing else in life like that: a long hard climb (even if it wasn't really that hard, looking back, it seems like it). Then you stand atop a plateau looking out over wide open vistas and take a deep breath . . . and realize there will be something missing in your life until you start a new long project.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:17 AM (c6xtn)

53 What's a pirate's favorite type of socks?

ARRRRRGYLES!!

Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 08:17 AM (W+kMI)

54 Well I got caught up in the biographies of Mary and Percy Shelley this week, and didn't start anything new from my list. When I read about them as a high school kid, they seemed so ancient, but they were kids when their big romance began and Mary was 19-20 when she wrote her big novel. Her parents were interesting types, too.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 08:18 AM (ONvIw)

55 More YA pirates:

The "Bloody Jack" series by L.A. Meyers has some piratical episodes in the varied career of Mary "Jacky" Faber. A London street urchin who does the boy disguise and ships out in the British navy, she sails all over the globe and meets many famous people in the course of her adventures.

I like them because while she is a young woman, she relies more on her wits than Grrrrl Power.

Caveats: they can be a little spicy and a main character is gay. Older readers at parental discretion.

Posted by: sal at September 19, 2021 08:18 AM (3c1fY)

56 I finished the second book in the Foundation series, "Foundation and Empire". It concludes with a group of rebels from the Periphery landing on Trantor, the planet that was a city. The center of the old Empire was sacked and the few remaining descendants are farmers plowing the earth that is now, after centuries buried under layer upon layer of decaying metal skyscrapers, exposed to the sky and the elements. The metal is being scrapped and sold to off-worlders. The people of Trantor just want to be left alone.

This book was a lot less episodic than the first. Psychohistorian Hari Seldon's math projected far into the future, painting in broad strokes. He couldn't, or wouldn't, concede that one individual could gum up the machine -- and here comes The Mule, a mutant. It's a black swan event.

I blazed through the third, "Second Empire".

Compelling ideas and some really cutting dialog. All in all, I enjoyed it thoroughly, though I don't know if it deserves canonization. It is very much of its time, with analog machines and paper communications. But will today's novels be any less mini time capsules?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 19, 2021 08:18 AM (Dc2NZ)

57 I'm going to have to re-read chapter 9 of Moby Dick where the pastor in the mariners' chapel gives that great sermon. It seems to fit with talk like a pirate day.

Posted by: JTB at September 19, 2021 08:18 AM (7EjX1)

58 Me first mate, Cicero Kaboom! Kid Wifey made me an historical replica Emanuel Wynn Jolley Roger to top our vessel. Made of sailcloth and sewn both sides, brings fear and dread to salt and land lubber alike. (Flag and First-Mate ). Says it was the hardest sewing project of her life!

Posted by: Cicero, Kaboom! Kid, bonafide pirate. at September 19, 2021 08:19 AM (n/szn)

59 BTW, the George Fraser "Pyrates: A Swashbuckling Comic Novel By The Creator Of Flashman " book is a fun read.

Posted by: JTB at September 19, 2021 08:20 AM (7EjX1)

60 So, when it's going up on Amazon?

I don't know. First I have to get feedback, which I know will require a lot of editing. Then I have to decide whether to approach a publisher with this or do it myself, as I did with The Director's Cut and Thirteen Moons (I'd appreciate advice from authors in the Horde).

So at least a few months, perhaps even a year. I honestly don't know. In the meantime, I'm working on another short story, The Girl From Sunday and after the first of the year am going to be plotting the next novel, Ten Thousand Midnights.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2021 08:20 AM (2JVJo)

61 Hooray for me!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2021 08:07 AM (2JVJo)

Hooray for ye indeed, ye bilge rat! I raise my cup o' grog to ye and hope I get to be pimpin' it on the book thread sometime real soon now. Aaarrrrhh!

Back in a bit wi' coffee and hardtack.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 19, 2021 08:20 AM (qmgjx)

62 OM, Where did you find that wonderful painting at the top of the post?

Posted by: JTB at September 19, 2021 08:20 AM (7EjX1)

63 Good morning Shipmates! I have donned pants just for this occasion.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 19, 2021 08:21 AM (O6OJ1)

64 Yo, ho, horde!

Good Sunday mornin' to ye.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at September 19, 2021 08:21 AM (OX9vb)

65 Father Mapple's sermon from "Moby Dick":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DAQ8Az5Gpc

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 19, 2021 08:21 AM (Dc2NZ)

66 Another thing I read this week was Mimsy Were the Borogoves. It seemed fitting for some reason. The story was better, if sadder and more disturbing, than the story.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 08:22 AM (ONvIw)

67 Back in a bit wi' coffee and hardtack.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 19, 2021 08:20 AM (qmgjx)

Mmmm....hardtack.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 19, 2021 08:22 AM (45fpk)

68 Making my way through Tom Clancy books. Still on Debt of Honor. Somewhat interesting is that in Chapter 39. A Japanese character says

I will make Japan great again

I wonder if my hero DJT got any ideas from reading that slogan.

Posted by: MikeM at September 19, 2021 08:22 AM (xbR8Y)

69 43 Someone may have mentioned it above, but the vocal styling we call "pirate" today was essentially invented by English actor Robert Newton. He played Long John Silver in the 1950 Disney Treasure Island, and the "Arrr, mateys!" stuff came from that role.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:14 AM (c6xtn)

Shiver me timbers! I not be knowin' that!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 19, 2021 08:22 AM (qmgjx)

70 To be sure, DaFoe wrote "General History o'th'Pyrates," but does it include Dread Pyrate Roberts, hmm?

I thought not. Incomplete, it is.

And under that pyrate wig is what's-his-name, the imposter Willy Wonka.

Posted by: Flyover at September 19, 2021 08:23 AM (Rbu5d)

71 43 Someone may have mentioned it above, but the vocal styling we call "pirate" today was essentially invented by English actor Robert Newton. He played Long John Silver in the 1950 Disney Treasure Island, and the "Arrr, mateys!" stuff came from that role.
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This is true. Newton grew up on the shores of the Bristol Channel, where the novel's early action takes place. (The Admiral Benbow is located on the north Devon coast, and Hispanolia is fitted out and manned in Bristol.) He felt that Long John Silver should speak sort of like the people he remembered from that area, and not like a cockney. (See every talky pirate movie made before the Disney film.) So he did it, and kept on doing it, and a dialect was born. And now we have a commemorative day for it. here's to you, Robert Newton! *hoists coffee mug*

Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 08:23 AM (W+kMI)

72
I shall add cuffed shorts to the rule.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Good catch!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 08:24 AM (+2sc/)

73 Jack L. Chalker's Pirates of the Thunder, Book 2 of The Rings of the Master has a strong pirate theme to it (of course).

The oppressive arm of Master System, an artificial intelligence, rules the galaxy with an iron fist. Most worlds are deliberately kept at a Stone Age level of technology. However, there is a way to bring down Master System. To protect this secret, a group of refugees flees to the outer reaches of the solar system, where they find a gigantic colony ship (eight kilometers long, the size of Babylon 5). They steal the ship then proceed to kick all kinds of ass while stealing the rest of the components needs to bring down Master System. Great storytelling with interesting and compelling characters. The ending is also pretty good, as we find several competing factions all vying for a way to control or bring down Master System.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 19, 2021 08:24 AM (K5n5d)

74 41 And girl pirates wear their own pantaloons, and look all the better for it, thank ye kindly. If ye no believe me, then hasten to the Ohio Renaissance Festival today to see the living proof of it!
Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 08:13 AM (W+kMI)

Girl pirates have been known to wear another girl pirates pantaloons in the haste of dressing.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:24 AM (yrol0)

75 And under that pyrate wig is what's-his-name, the imposter Willy Wonka.
Posted by: Flyover at September 19, 2021 08:23 AM (Rbu5d)

Gene Wilder is THE Willy Wonka!

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 08:25 AM (ONvIw)

76 As a follow-up, The Pyrates lampshades the "pirate talk" by referring to it as "the Mummerset dialect, which kept Robert Newton in lawful employment".

Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 08:25 AM (W+kMI)

77 Didn't start anything new this week but should finish Far From the Madding Crowd by the next book thread. Thomas Hardy is definitely in my top ten favorite writers. Even though his works are simple in terms of plot complexity they're engagingly sincere particularly in how it's impossible to fight fate. If a character gets kicked in the balls in the opening chapters he should never remove the protective cup after the preliminaries.

After the book group moves on to Buddenbrooks by that boring kraut turd Mann (I'm open to words of encouragement by the Horde) I should probably read The Mayor of Casterbridge on my own. Btw even though I'm reading a Norton edition I've found at least one use of "of" instead of "off".

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 19, 2021 08:26 AM (y7DUB)

78 Depp looks stupid in blue eye shadow, like he's seen too many Biba ads

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 08:26 AM (ONvIw)

79 53 What's a pirate's favorite type of socks?

ARRRRRGYLES!!
Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 08:17 AM (W+kMI)

What's a pirate's favorite cheese?

Havarrrti!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 19, 2021 08:27 AM (PiwSw)

80 Another thing I read this week was Mimsy Were the Borogoves. It seemed fitting for some reason. The story was better, if sadder and more disturbing, than the story.
Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 08:22 AM (ONvIw)
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Great story. Henry Kuttner and his wife C.L. Moore were terrific. You should also read C.L. Moore's stand alone works such as Jirel of Joiry and Northwest Smith (early echoes of Indiana Jones).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 19, 2021 08:27 AM (K5n5d)

81 We had Mapple syrup sausage links this morning.

I'm continuing to read Norse Mythology. I didn't know about this thing called a "Neck".

"The neck is the river-spirit. Sometimes he is represented as sitting during the summer nights on the surface of the water, like a pretty little boy with golden hair hanging in ringlets, and a red cap on his head; sometimes as above the water, like a handsome young man, but beneath like a horse; at other times as an old man with a long beard, out of which he wrings the water as he sits on the cliffs. "

Posted by: f'd at September 19, 2021 08:27 AM (Tnijr)

82 I have heard that the Original Pirates of the Caribbean ride canal were dug into the ground. When they turned on the water it sunk into the ground within about 2 days.

The 20000 Leagues Under the Sea leaked so much water that they built a special tank that could be purified and chlorinated ready to dump into the ride. Also had many chlorine spills and fines.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:28 AM (yrol0)

83 76 As a follow-up, The Pyrates lampshades the "pirate talk" by referring to it as "the Mummerset dialect, which kept Robert Newton in lawful employment".
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Actually that should read "gainful employment", which is more funny when his actual working career was considered. When Oliver Reed AND Keith Moon adopt the same man as a role model...

Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 08:28 AM (W+kMI)

84 43 Someone may have mentioned it above, but the vocal styling we call "pirate" today was essentially invented by English actor Robert Newton. He played Long John Silver in the 1950 Disney Treasure Island, and the "Arrr, mateys!" stuff came from that role.
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Wasn't Cornwall/West Country always a pirate and smuggler haven, since back in the day? Heck, I think their raiders even hit Greenland.

Makes sense that he'd use that accent.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 19, 2021 08:28 AM (Dc2NZ)

85 As a follow-up, The Pyrates lampshades the "pirate talk" by referring to it as "the Mummerset dialect, which kept Robert Newton in lawful employment".
Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 08:25 AM (W+kMI)
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Burn me for a backstay else!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 19, 2021 08:29 AM (LBiAf)

86 Talk Like a Pirate Day? I have two ideas:

"In the name of Allah, show mercy! I have a family!"-Somali mariner running afoul of a Russian vessel.

"I want to download your book and read it before I decide to buy it." Got that one from an author who Has Opinions on the matter.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 19, 2021 08:29 AM (6SulZ)

87 Fun pirate joke w/little kids:
*knock*knock*:
"Who's there?"
"Interrupting pirate"
"Interrupting pir--"
"ARRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHH!"

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 19, 2021 08:29 AM (7Fj9P)

88 I've been reading all the articles in my old 1970's and 80's Playboys. Does that count?

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 19, 2021 08:29 AM (Zvtjl)

89 Thar be treasure in this thread - treasure and booty!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 19, 2021 08:29 AM (oEn12)

90 "today be Talk Like A Pirate Day"

Obscure instrumental track from 80s alternative rock band The Housemartins in honor of the day...
https://youtu.be/aQrZgzht4b8

Posted by: Doof at September 19, 2021 08:30 AM (mZUr4)

91 In Ken Burn's Civil War series, comments from one confederate private Sam R. Watkins were richly featured.
Well, lo and behold, he did write a book 20 years after his service and I finished it just now.

"Co. Aytch, the classic memoir of a private in the Confederate Army"

What a colorful and fascinating read, poetic and colorful, occasionally humorous.
Watkins, from Tennessee, starts his book with his brief military training, a train ride to Virginia, a long march to Manassas, only to find the battle concluded in a rout. He agonized that the war was over and he would never get any action.

He was wrong about that. The book is entirely written from the point of view of a private in the infantry, responding to a bugle call, or "the long roll" on the drums and having really no idea what is in store for them. And of course, many battles weren't discussed at all, since Sam wasn't there. But pvt. Sam was in quite a few. The portrayal of hardships suffered on both sides is richly conveyed, like when a winter storm hit, and Watkins, standing guard while his men slept, came upon several union pickets, standing upright with their rifles, frozen solid.

Highly recommended.

Posted by: casual observer 1019 at September 19, 2021 08:30 AM (aAP3z)

92 I think im a pirate therefore I AARRRRRR!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:30 AM (yrol0)

93 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 19, 2021 08:31 AM (arJlL)

94 Another thing I read this week was Mimsy Were the Borogoves. It seemed fitting for some reason. The story was better, if sadder and more disturbing, than the story.
Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021

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The classic SF story by Henry Kuttner and C.L. Moore? I can't remember, was that one they signed as by Lewis Padgett?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:31 AM (c6xtn)

95 Captain Hate, don't miss the Alan Bates version of "Mayor of Casterbridge". You'll need captions for the "English" spoken, but it's terrific.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 19, 2021 08:31 AM (Dc2NZ)

96 A bit tired this morning.

Maybe some aarrr and aarrr in in order.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:31 AM (yrol0)

97 FWIW, I made some pirate noises whilst on the toilet.

Posted by: JT at September 19, 2021 08:31 AM (arJlL)

98 When is "DON'T talk like a pirate day"??

Posted by: Popeye at September 19, 2021 08:32 AM (mZUr4)

99 You got that right mom! Let's hear it for booty!!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 19, 2021 08:32 AM (O6OJ1)

100 80> Thanks for the recommendation.

When I was reading the story, I kept going back to the indoctrination happening at schools and at younger ages with respect to CRT and Trans-shit. It's not a group from millions of years after us, but it is a very different "culture" looking to make kids not reflect their families' values.
Hollywood certainly screwed up that adaptation to make it cuddly and benign

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 08:33 AM (ONvIw)

101 97 FWIW, I made some pirate noises whilst on the toilet.
Posted by: JT at September 19, 2021 08:31 AM (arJlL)

ha!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:33 AM (yrol0)

102 Hardly ever comment anymore, but I am still lurking everyday.
Read Where Eagles Dare by Alistair MacLean, and it is almost exactly like the movie with Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood. MacLean wrote the screenplay so that would be why. The castle featured in the film is somewhere south of Salzburg Austria. Pretty good movie.

Posted by: prophet of the group W bench at September 19, 2021 08:33 AM (s37kI)

103 Someone may have mentioned it above, but the vocal styling we call "pirate" today was essentially invented by English actor Robert Newton. He played Long John Silver in the 1950 Disney Treasure Island, and the "Arrr, mateys!" stuff came from that role.
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Wasn't Cornwall/West Country always a pirate and smuggler haven, since back in the day? Heck, I think their raiders even hit Greenland.

Makes sense that he'd use that accent.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 19, 2021

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There are hints of it in Hitchcock's 1939 film of Du Maurier's Jamaica Inn, too. And Newton is in that as the romantic lead.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:33 AM (c6xtn)

104 The classic SF story by Henry Kuttner and C.L. Moore? I can't remember, was that one they signed as by Lewis Padgett?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:31 AM (c6xtn)

Yes.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 08:33 AM (ONvIw)

105 Read Where Eagles Dare by Alistair MacLean, and it is almost exactly like the movie with Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood. MacLean wrote the screenplay so that would be why. The castle featured in the film is somewhere south of Salzburg Austria. Pretty good movie.
Posted by: prophet of the group W bench at September 19, 2021

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Someone here commented that MacLean wrote the screenplay first, then novelized it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:34 AM (c6xtn)

106
All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord

Setting aside the idea that a mutant (of course!) would upset the applecart of Hari Seldon and Company's predictions of the course of history over however many centuries, Asimov's conceit that there would be such a thing as psychohistory and that it could determine the course of human events over long spans of time is, to me, what renders this trilogy anachronistic in this day and age.

I did read it, at least twice, fifty-some years ago before the follies of recent years brought me to severely downgrade its place among works of science fiction.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 08:35 AM (+2sc/)

107 The neck is the river-spirit.

Speaking of river spirits, you might find this interesting - "The Ladybird Plague of 1976"

https://tinyurl.com/e43xn7m5

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2021 08:36 AM (2JVJo)

108 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 08:15 AM (+2sc/)

When the miniseries was originally broadcast, one of the intro clips had Gus talking to a butcher in the middle of the desert in front of a mountain of buffalo bones saying "I'm trying to find an Indian and a white woman". But the vignette was never in the final cut of the miniseries. I know where in the book that happened but I was surprised with all the subsequent discussion it never got mentioned that I recalled.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 19, 2021 08:36 AM (y7DUB)

109 I finished A Man at Arms by Steven Pressfield. Slow start but gets intense in the last quarter.

Currently reading two books : Lavinia by Ursula Le Guin - a novel from the pov of Lavinia in the AenEid.

The other is Horrorstorby Grady Hendrix, which I picked up solely on the basis of the cover. Funny so far.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1594745269

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 19, 2021 08:36 AM (oEn12)

110 Henry Kuttner and his wife C.L. Moore were terrific. You should also read C.L. Moore's stand alone works such as Jirel of Joiry and Northwest Smith (early echoes of Indiana Jones).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 19, 2021

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Kuttner & Moore's novelette "Vintage Season" is one of the great SF stories.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:36 AM (c6xtn)

111 Finished _Moonshot_, by Alan Shepherd and Deke Slayton. Can't really recommend it. Not much new information about the early space program, and when Al and Deke try to re-create dramatic moments in dialog it's kind of painful.

Basically, imagine _The Right Stuff_ written by Clive Cussler instead of Tom Wolfe.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 19, 2021 08:37 AM (QZxDR)

112
Wasn't Cornwall/West Country always a pirate and smuggler haven, since back in the day?

The practice of setting up a false light to lure ships onto shoals and then making off with the wreck's cargo was part of the "Poldark" novels.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 08:38 AM (+2sc/)

113 Casual Observer @ 91- I second you on Co. Aytch.

Posted by: Eromero at September 19, 2021 08:38 AM (0OP+5)

114 Been on a WWII kick. Read Camp Sharpe's "Psycho Boys" From Gettysburg to Germany by Beverly Driver Eddy. It is about a unit that trained in Gettysburg in military intelligence and propaganda. Not a super exciting book, but pretty interesting. I live near Gettysburg so I found the book more interesting than most probably would.

Posted by: prophet of the group W bench at September 19, 2021 08:39 AM (s37kI)

115 Morning book readers.
It's a rumor that Roman Catholics aren't big on reading the Bible. True for my family. Made the decision to read the Bible. Started with Genesis and will go on to Exodus and then the big 4. Mark, Matthew, Luke and John.
It's a study version so it has notes and explanations.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 19, 2021 08:40 AM (2NHgQ)

116 Apple TV will release a Foundation series next Friday. Based on the trailer, I expect it to veer wildly from the books.
But I'll watch it anyway out of curiosity.

https://youtu.be/Gr6U4ypFITE

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 19, 2021 08:40 AM (oEn12)

117 Also, the little "book nook" outside a local post office yielded 2 possibilities: The Untouchables, the original memoir by Eliot Ness and Oscar Fraley, which inspired the TV series; and Saul Bellow's Herzog. Since they were both free ("take a book, leave a book"), I carted them home. Never read any of Bellow's stuff; is it readable?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:40 AM (c6xtn)

118 By the way, Seabees and Marines are not exactly pirates, though Army Engineers and AF Red Horse believe we are.

Posted by: Eromero at September 19, 2021 08:41 AM (0OP+5)

119 Wasn't Cornwall/West Country always a pirate and smuggler haven, since back in the day?

The practice of setting up a false light to lure ships onto shoals and then making off with the wreck's cargo was part of the "Poldark" novels.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021

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And, I think, in Jamaica Inn, which is set in Cornwall.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:41 AM (c6xtn)

120 the Alpha Bank allegation fell apart even before Sussmann delivered it to the FBI. The indictment details how an unnamed tech executive allegedly used his authority at multiple internet companies to help develop the ridiculous claim. (The executive reportedly later claimed that he was promised a top cyber security job in the Clinton administration).

I think this is where the faked the banks IP address and then had it sending SMTP request to several of the Trump organizations domains.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:42 AM (yrol0)

121 I shall add cuffed shorts to the rule.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:10 AM (yrol0)

"I grow old ... I grow old ...
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 19, 2021 08:42 AM (Q9lwr)

122 Good for you Neverenoughcaffine - I'm doing it in short bursts based on study materials I picked up somewhere.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 19, 2021 08:42 AM (O6OJ1)

123 "The neck is the river-spirit. "

The more Germanic versions are the Nix and Nixie.

Yeah some of those ladybugs are vicious. 1976 huh? Must have been because of climate change.

Congrats on the book MP4. Will there be a print version?

Posted by: f'd at September 19, 2021 08:43 AM (Tnijr)

124 Mr. April cleaned 30 years' worth of belongings from his father's shed last week. Found his comic books, and he's pretty excited about it.

He has a first issue of Silver Surfer that he hopes will make him rich.

Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs! at September 19, 2021 08:43 AM (OX9vb)

125 Thanks for the heads up on the Bates version of Casterbridge, Eris.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 19, 2021 08:43 AM (y7DUB)

126 As a counterpoint to reading The Divine Comedy the rest of my reading this week has been on practical, hands on, matters.

I have some wonderful hand tools accumulated over the years but haven't used them in quite a while. So I've been reading up on their use and restoration. Even if I don't do much wood working there is a satisfaction in having these excellent objects in working condition.

Going through back issues of Woodcarving Illustrated and some books to find whittling projects that should be fun.

Reading up on hand made gear for black powder shooting: powder horns, flint wallets, making patch lubes, powder measures, etc. Part of the fun of traditional muzzleloading is making your own accessories.

Posted by: JTB at September 19, 2021 08:44 AM (7EjX1)

127 He has a first issue of Silver Surfer that he hopes will make him rich.
Posted by: April -- dash my lace wigs!

I bid a nickel....

Posted by: JT at September 19, 2021 08:44 AM (arJlL)

128 The other WWII book I read is called Nazi Millionaires The Search for Hidden SS Gold by Kenneth Alford and Theodore Savas. This book goes into details of the how the SS stole all sorts of things, especially gold. It also covers the Nazi counterfeit operations. It covers the movements of several SS officers in the last days of the war. Most of the stories take place in Southern Germany and Austria. Definitely would recommend, I mean who doesn't like Nazi gold.

Posted by: prophet of the group W bench at September 19, 2021 08:45 AM (s37kI)

129 Definitely would recommend, I mean who doesn't like Nazi gold.
Posted by: prophet of the group W bench at September 19, 2021 08:45 AM (s37kI)
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Dibs!

Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at September 19, 2021 08:46 AM (LBiAf)

130 Been participating in the 100 days of Dante, reading the Divine Comedy. Up to Canto V. The commentary by literary experts is interesting and helpful for seeing the deeper story. I am definitely getting more out of it than just the sheer terror of each circle of hell.

Also rereading Jane Eyre for a little bit of lighter fare at night.

Posted by: squeakywheel at September 19, 2021 08:46 AM (NXy9v)

131 As if the TBR list be not long enough, "Cruises With Kathleen" by Donald Hamilton includes a recommended reading list. Most of his recommendations be accounts of ocean voyages under sail, arr!

I enjoyed this book enough that I may ... Aye, ye gets it.

Also, ye Matt Helm readers know how Helm disdains defensive driving? Ye ought to read Hamilton's opinions on boating safety courses!

Gawd, if Hamilton were to see today's cowering classes? He'd keelhaul the lot of 'em!

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 19, 2021 08:46 AM (Om/di)

132 The BEES take on the rally:

https://tinyurl.com/3f9p9mk8

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:47 AM (yrol0)

133 I just finished Second Son by Vernabelle Rice. Rice was the GrandMother of one of Mrs. E's friends. Mrs. E read it years ago and found one somewhere for me to read.

Posted by: Eromero at September 19, 2021 08:48 AM (0OP+5)

134 I mean who doesn't like Nazi gold.
Posted by: prophet of the group W bench at September 19, 2021 08:45 AM (s37kI)

Would be a great name for a summer ale.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:48 AM (yrol0)

135 "I grow old ... I grow old ...
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled"
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 19, 2021 08:42 AM (Q9lwr)

Cuffs on trousers did not come in until after WWI, IIRC. Edward VII in particular, hated them; when he saw a royal duke with his bottoms rolled, he acidly enquired if the fellow was going rat-hunting.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2021 08:48 AM (2JVJo)

136
(The executive reportedly later claimed that he was promised a top cyber security job in the Clinton administration).

Panjandrum of Wiping Servers With, Like, A Cloth

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 08:49 AM (+2sc/)

137 Never read any of Bellow's stuff; is it readable?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:40 AM (c6xtn)

I think so but he weirdly fell out of favor with the lit chat mavens. Hard to say why although being too joo for them is my one stop explanation.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 19, 2021 08:49 AM (y7DUB)

138 Too good to miss:
https://tinyurl.com/Fedsnitch

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 19, 2021 08:49 AM (7Fj9P)

139 Would be a great name for a summer ale.

Or weed.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 19, 2021 08:50 AM (O6OJ1)

140 135 Cuffs on trousers did not come in until after WWI, IIRC. Edward VII in particular, hated them; when he saw a royal duke with his bottoms rolled, he acidly enquired if the fellow was going rat-hunting.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2021 08:48 AM (2JVJo)

We wore cuffs on our jeans in the 50s because mom always bought pants that were too big so we could grow into them.

Posted by: Vic at September 19, 2021 08:50 AM (mpXpK)

141 Good morning, OM, good morning, Horde,

I see there be whyte pryvylyge here! No Somali pyrates with motorboats!

Arrr!

Posted by: callsign claymore at September 19, 2021 08:51 AM (tsIH6)

142 Never read any of Bellow's stuff; is it readable?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021

I think so but he weirdly fell out of favor with the lit chat mavens. Hard to say why although being too joo for them is my one stop explanation.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 19, 2021

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The edition of Herzog I picked up has an intro by Philip Roth, not a high point for me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:51 AM (c6xtn)

143 Off Bond villain sock.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 19, 2021 08:52 AM (LBiAf)

144 Started on Tom Holland's _Dominion_, based on recommendations from the Sunday morning Moron Horde a few months ago. It's quite a brick. I'm two chapters in and Christ hasn't even been born yet (though the author does start out with an extended account of crucifixions).

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 19, 2021 08:52 AM (QZxDR)

145 I've been on a C. S. Lewis kick recently. Read his space trilogy (the last book hits a little too close to home these days) and am now re-reading the Narnia books because I am in desperate need of things with happy endings.

Also read Brave New World for our book club, but will likely miss the meeting to discuss it which is next week. Which is okay by me, because again, hits way too close to home for my comfort.

Have also re-read a few P. G. Wodehouse books just to make me smile.

Posted by: bluebell at September 19, 2021 08:53 AM (wyw4S)

146 Trouser cuffs help the legs hang straight. Useful if you don't have a manservant to press them for you before you get dressed.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 19, 2021 08:54 AM (QZxDR)

147
The BEE's take on the rally:

https://tinyurl.com/3f9p9mk8
Posted by: rhennigantx

That is top notch sarcasm and ridicule. "Agent Arlo Chitbag" was my favorite.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 08:54 AM (+2sc/)

148 I re-read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, just for fun. I really like Hunter S. Thompson's style of writing. Not for everyone as there is gratuitous drug use. Still I think it is insightful into a different time in America.

Also read An Exorcist Explains the Demonic by Gabrielle Amorth. Very interesting book. Amorth was an exorcist in the Catholic Church and has written two other books about his experiences, An Exorcist Tells His Story and An Exorcist More Stories. Very dry and focused on details. Something I found interesting is that Amorth believed that most ghost sightings were actually demons. Worth checking out if your interested in this kind of thing.

Posted by: prophet of the group W bench at September 19, 2021 08:54 AM (s37kI)

149 Who you callin' ho?
Posted by: The Vice President of the United States at September 19, 2021 08:13 AM (PiwSw)
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If the heels fit!

Posted by: Biden's Dog at September 19, 2021 08:55 AM (UrhDa)

150 I always wanted to see the movie version of Benchley's "The Island" when I was a kid except it was Rated Arrgh.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 19, 2021 08:55 AM (vuisn)

151 Started on Tom Holland's _Dominion_, based on recommendations from the Sunday morning Moron Horde a few months ago. It's quite a brick. I'm two chapters in and Christ hasn't even been born yet (though the author does start out with an extended account of crucifixions).
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 19, 2021 08:52 AM (QZxDR)

I haven't read that, but want to. I have read his Millennium, which is a look at the world in the year 1000, and which I highly recommend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2021 08:56 AM (2JVJo)

152 You! Get below and get your bellbottoms on! Pants are required everywhere except the poop deck this watch!

Posted by: Chief Master-At-Arms of the Watch at September 19, 2021 08:56 AM (a3Q+t)

153 The edition of Herzog I picked up has an intro by Philip Roth, not a high point for me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 08:51 AM (c6xtn)

Roth certainly was a prick many many times but he also championed Eastern European underground writers which led to public exposure of many important works. Not an easy person to pigeonhole.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 19, 2021 08:57 AM (y7DUB)

154 Michael Crichton wrote a fun yarn "Pirate Latitudes."

I think it was the last book he wrote before dying.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 19, 2021 08:57 AM (xopIz)

155 146 Trouser cuffs help the legs hang straight. Useful if you don't have a manservant to press them for you before you get dressed.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 19, 2021 08:54 AM (QZxDR)

Sometimes my manservant gets a little to close to my dick when cuffing my jean shorts.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:58 AM (yrol0)

156 I really should check out the 100 Days of Dante. I've read the Inferno and started Purgatorio. I've been stuck in purgatory for a couple years now.

Posted by: bluebell at September 19, 2021 08:58 AM (wyw4S)

157 84 43 Someone may have mentioned it above, but the vocal styling we call "pirate" today was essentially invented by English actor Robert Newton. He played Long John Silver in the 1950 Disney Treasure Island, and the "Arrr, mateys!" stuff came from that role.
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Wasn't Cornwall/West Country always a pirate and smuggler haven, since back in the day? Heck, I think their raiders even hit Greenland.

Makes sense that he'd use that accent.
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The pirate accent was dramatically emphasized, I believe, but otherwise spot on. A lot of the locals have endorsed it!

Elizabeth I's Sea Dogs all came from the western Channel ports, and they were their fathers' and grandfathers' sons. The mariners of that region knew more about the sea trade and its opportunities on both sides of the law than London did. The King's law was thin on the ground in much of that area (Lorna Doone is also set in northern Devon) and the line between lawful mariner, smuggler, privateer, and pirate could be rather dotted at times. Of course, all the trade brought in was eagerly bought up by London and other inland merchants, who then resold it at a nice profit.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 08:59 AM (W+kMI)

158 I mean who doesn't like Nazi gold.
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Right?!

Posted by: Georgie Patton at September 19, 2021 09:00 AM (Dc2NZ)

159 115 Morning book readers.
It's a rumor that Roman Catholics aren't big on reading the Bible. True for my family. Made the decision to read the Bible. Started with Genesis and will go on to Exodus and then the big 4. Mark, Matthew, Luke and John.
It's a study version so it has notes and explanations.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 19, 2021 08:40 AM (2NHgQ

I am embarrassed to admit that I had never read the entire Bible through until a couple years AFTER I graduated college with a B.A. in Religion. I have no good excuse. I was a preacher's kid and committed my life to Christ in grade school.

Posted by: Emmie at September 19, 2021 09:00 AM (6RgRK)

160 Tim Powers wrote On Stranger Tides (which the title alone was taken for the Pirate of the Caribbean movie) is one of the best modern pirate books

John Shandy was travelling to the New world to try and recover part of his inheritance from a relative, when his ship was taken by pirates. He was forced to choose to act as crew to try to protect one of the Beth Hurwood, and winds up in an expedition by Benjamin Hurwood, a renegade Oxford Don, and Edward Teach (Blackbeard) to find the fountain of youth, and bring back the Hurwood's dead wife through a voodoo ritual.
The expedition fails but Teach gets the secret of eternal life, and acts to create a pirate kingdom in the new world, and Shandy moves to stop him.

Full of witch doctors, voodoo gods, and slapstick

Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 09:00 AM (ssx3L)

161 I'm listening to an Audible book A Higher Call.
It's the story of American bomber pilot Charlie Brown and German fighter pilot Franz Stiegel and the events that led to their meeting over the North Sea.
Brown was flying a crippled B-17 and Steigel was in a position to gun a helpless opponent down.
Instead Steigel let Brown and his crew return to base for Christmas.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at September 19, 2021 09:00 AM (cSyAR)

162 at the BEE:

Update: Drone Strike Thought To Have Taken Down ISIS Actually Hit A Chuck E. Cheese In Ohio

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 09:00 AM (yrol0)

163 Roth certainly was a prick many many times but he also championed Eastern European underground writers which led to public exposure of many important works. Not an easy person to pigeonhole.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 19, 2021 08:57 AM (y7DUB)

He was a dick who did a few nice things, but generally an asshole.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 09:01 AM (ONvIw)

164 Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 09:00 AM (ssx3L)

Read any good, or lousy, short stories lately???

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 19, 2021 09:02 AM (7bRMQ)

165 Marines to the rescue:

https://tinyurl.com/zc6yubwn

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 09:02 AM (yrol0)

166 Roth certainly was a prick many many times but he also championed Eastern European underground writers which led to public exposure of many important works. Not an easy person to pigeonhole.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 19, 2021

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To me he's one of those odd writers whose works make better movies than they do books, like Patricia Highsmith, for example. The basic story of The Human Stain is great, but I couldn't finish it. The film with Anthony Hopkins and Nicole Kidman was much better. And his The Plot Against America was a bit of a slog. Its basic premise, that Lindbergh becomes president in 1940 and thus opens the door for Fascism in America, was a great alternative-history concept. But his imagination fails him part way through -- that often happens with mainstream writers who try a genre story -- and it fell sort of flat.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 09:02 AM (c6xtn)

167 I was a preacher's kid

Posted by: Emmie at September 19, 2021 09:00 AM (6RgRK)

God bless you. Not always an easy thing.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 19, 2021 09:03 AM (45fpk)

168 *high fives MPPPP*

Posted by: Emmie at September 19, 2021 09:03 AM (6RgRK)

169 112
Wasn't Cornwall/West Country always a pirate and smuggler haven, since back in the day?

The practice of setting up a false light to lure ships onto shoals and then making off with the wreck's cargo was part of the "Poldark" novels.
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This is all true. An ancient law on the property rights of salvage led many Cornish communities to bolster their meager living with causing shipwrecks to plunder, under the cover of the law. The amount of time that passed that allowed the practice to continue is proof a number of officials were getting paid off.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 09:04 AM (W+kMI)

170 {{{Grammie}}}

Posted by: Emmie at September 19, 2021 09:04 AM (6RgRK)

171 at the BEE:

Update: Drone Strike Thought To Have Taken Down ISIS Actually Hit A Chuck E. Cheese In Ohio

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 09:00 AM (yrol0)

Oh my, that's too funny.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 19, 2021 09:04 AM (45fpk)

172 Well, I need to shave and polish off some chores around the ol' homestead. I shall check in later!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 09:04 AM (c6xtn)

173 also at the BEE:

Californians Desperate To Escape Cling To Landing Gear Of Last Jet Leaving LAX

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 09:04 AM (yrol0)

174 Aaarrrrrr!

Posted by: runner, don't forget Ninenineteenth ! at September 19, 2021 09:04 AM (V13WU)

175
g'mornin', book-ish 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 19, 2021 09:05 AM (DUIap)

176 >>The practice of setting up a false light to lure ships onto shoals and then making off with the wreck's cargo was part of the "Poldark" novels.
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This is all true. An ancient law on the property rights of salvage led many Cornish communities to bolster their meager living with causing shipwrecks to plunder, under the cover of the law. The amount of time that passed that allowed the practice to continue is proof a number of officials were getting paid off.
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I think this was also done in New England and they wee called "wreckers".

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 19, 2021 09:05 AM (vuisn)

177 Wha''s a Pirates fav'rit letter?

Most scallywags would say R R R R R R

But Pirates actually love the C C C C C C

Posted by: TANSTAAFL6823 at September 19, 2021 09:05 AM (fBtlL)

178 Not a book, but if you like stories about unsolved mysteries/supernatural check out the youtube channel MrBallen. Former Navy Seal, who is pretty good at telling stories. Pretty fun channel.

Posted by: prophet of the group W bench at September 19, 2021 09:05 AM (s37kI)

179 On 02 June 1942, U.S. Congress passed U.S. Code which said the only pennant authorized to fly over the National Ensign would be the Divine Services pennant during Divine Services, at sea this narrow white pennant showing a Christian cross. Probably a crescent today? But not at my church!

Posted by: Eromero at September 19, 2021 09:05 AM (0OP+5)

180 Off to church! I'm gonna be scarce the next few days because we are finally making our big moving trip!

Posted by: Emmie at September 19, 2021 09:05 AM (6RgRK)

181 Seems to be a day to regret the abrupt cancellation of CrossGen comics' pirate title, El Cazador, by the dream team of Chuck Dixon and Butch Guice. CrossGen folded after the title had put out only a handful of issues.

I've been purging my comics in the interests of storage space, but that title will remain.

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 19, 2021 09:07 AM (Om/di)

182 So he did it, and kept on doing it, and a dialect was born. And now we have a commemorative day for it. here's to you, Robert Newton! *hoists coffee mug*

Probably a glass of whiskey would be more appropriate to the day and to the man: Newton was a notorious drinker, which damaged his career because he was so unreliable, and probably shortened his life. Excellent actor, though; I like everything of his I've ever seen, even the minor parts from early in his career.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at September 19, 2021 09:07 AM (rUoFb)

183
I think this was also done in New England and they wee called "wreckers".
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 19, 2021 09:05 AM (vuisn)

Also popular in the Keys.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 09:07 AM (yrol0)

184 a quick search says a mint Silver Surfer #1 sold for $105K in 2017 ... next on the list was $31K, then $9K. ... I had a small stack of comics and a few of my old baseball cards that my mom saved when she moved from my childhood home ... old but not perfect, no #1s.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 19, 2021 09:08 AM (Cus5s)

185 105 Read Where Eagles Dare by Alistair MacLean, and it is almost exactly like the movie with Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood. MacLean wrote the screenplay so that would be why. The castle featured in the film is somewhere south of Salzburg Austria. Pretty good movie.
Posted by: prophet of the group W bench at September 19, 2021

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Someone here commented that MacLean wrote the screenplay first, then novelized it.
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I have it from a source that he was writing the novel draft even as he edited his screenplay for the film. And apparently he had the time for it due to Burton's shenanigans on site, both with and without Elizabeth Taylor. The novel hit the stores about the same time as the movie, so MacLean got paid twice. Huzzah!

MacLean also wrote a novel about hunting Nazi gold called River of Death. IIRC the Nazis also turned up hunting for the gold, or maybe it was to discourage the hunters? (It's been a while since I read it in my schoolboy days.)

Posted by: exdem13 at September 19, 2021 09:10 AM (W+kMI)

186 Captain William Kidd, whose trial and execution created a sensation throughout London and the world

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The book The Pirate Hunter by Richard Zacks contends that Kidd was innocent. Kidd's defense was that he was acting under the king's sanction when he captured booty from pirates. When he could not produce the documentation, he was hung. Zacks contends that he found the commission buried in the Admiralty archives ten or fifteen years ago.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 09:12 AM (d9FiS)

187 Q : What's a pirate's favorite fish?
A: Swordfish !

Posted by: runner, don't forget Ninenineteenth ! at September 19, 2021 09:12 AM (V13WU)

188 Ahoy maties. The Sot-Weed Factor by John Barth has some scurvy pirates in it. It brought tears to me one good eye, yaaargh.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 19, 2021 09:12 AM (slmIp)

189
"Lorna Doone" is also set in northern Devon

"Nutter Butter" is set in the fey Kingdom of Twee.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 09:12 AM (+2sc/)

190 one of the subplots in nelson demilles plum island, involves captain kidd and the disposition of his treasure on long island,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at September 19, 2021 09:13 AM (hMlTh)

191 But Pirates actually love the C C C C C C
Posted by: TANSTAAFL6823 at September 19, 2021 09:05 AM (fBtlL)
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Obese Jewish pirates love to S S.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at September 19, 2021 09:13 AM (UrhDa)

192 Has the crew from the Raging Queen checked in?

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 19, 2021 09:13 AM (slmIp)

193 Neal Stephenson's Baroque Quartet has some cool pirate stuff in it, including a great chase where a merchant ship is trying to get away from Blackbeard in Massachusetts Bay.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 19, 2021 09:14 AM (QZxDR)

194 Today's the day to enjoy some Pyrat rum, or Pusser's.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 19, 2021 09:16 AM (slmIp)

195 192 Has the crew from the Raging Queen checked in?
Posted by: JuJuBee at September 19, 2021 09:13 AM (slmIp)

Do the cabin boys need comforting??

Posted by: Capn Ned (Raging Queen) at September 19, 2021 09:17 AM (yrol0)

196 I watched Where Eagles Dare back in my teens and it was the awesomest movie ever. Watched it again a couple of years ago, and I have to say it had declined over the decades. The action parts weren't as thrilling, and the whole espionage mind games plot just made no goddamned sense at all.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 19, 2021 09:18 AM (QZxDR)

197 I've never read them, but there are a series of books about by Russell Thorndike about the adventures of Dr. Syn, known as Captain Clegg during his days as a pirate, and also as the Scarecrow of Romney Marsh later on, when he settled down again in England and took to smuggling.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at September 19, 2021 09:18 AM (rUoFb)

198
I think this was also done in New England and they wee called "wreckers".
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 19, 2021 09:05 AM (vuisn)

Also popular in the Keys.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Pffft ... amateurs!

-- Uncle Joe Stalin and His Merry Band o' Pranksters

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 09:19 AM (+2sc/)

199 "Shipwrecks and Legends 'Round Cape May" is a good book with stories about pirates, rum runners and U-boats.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 19, 2021 09:19 AM (vuisn)

200 Off to enjoy the day.

Thank you OM and bookish Hordians for a lovely thread!

Posted by: Georgie Patton at September 19, 2021 09:20 AM (Dc2NZ)

201 I've not read the novelization of "Where Eagles Dare," but I'll bet it has less ammunition expended than in the movie. All that gunfire got to be ridiculous.

I love the movie. All the plot twists. ... I may have yelled in surprise at one of them. Fortunately, I was watching it on TV in my apartment, so nobody complained to the usher.

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 19, 2021 09:20 AM (Om/di)

202 Trouser cuffs help the legs hang straight. Useful if you don't have a manservant to press them for you before you get dressed.
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That reminds me of the random fact that Queen Elizabeth has her dress maker sew drapery weights in the hems of her skirts and dresses so they won't blow up at inopportune times.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 19, 2021 09:21 AM (7Fj9P)

203 The book The Pirate Hunter by Richard Zacks contends that Kidd was innocent. Kidd's defense was that he was acting under the king's sanction when he captured booty from pirates. When he could not produce the documentation, he was hung. Zacks contends that he found the commission buried in the Admiralty archives ten or fifteen years ago.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 09:12 AM (d9FiS)
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Hey, what about me?

Posted by: Moore the Gunner at September 19, 2021 09:21 AM (LBiAf)

204 132 The BEES take on the rally:

https://tinyurl.com/3f9p9mk8

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:47 AM (yrol0)

OK, I laffed:

"Greetings, fellow Trump supporters," said another agent. "Let's go insurrect the government, shall we, fellas? Maybe kidnap Gretchen Whitmer? Whadaya say boys? Say -- I sure do love racism!" He was then immediately tackled by three other FBI agents who dragged him to an unmarked van.

Comedy gold.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 19, 2021 09:21 AM (qmgjx)

205
in other news, I won neither the mega millions nor the powerball, so the plans for AltonJackson's Goat Rodeo & Alpaca Emporium have been temporarily placed on hold, pending the outcome of Tuesday's mega millions drawing

thatisall

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 19, 2021 09:22 AM (DUIap)

206 OK, folks, going to do some polishing on the book, then head out to enjoy the sunshine. Thank you for all your kind words.

See you tomorrow. Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 19, 2021 09:22 AM (2JVJo)

207 There's a crime noir deal at humble bundle. 33 ebooks for $25 from hard case crime. The "charity" is aclu and I banged the slider over to the left and gave them $0.00 funds. "Adjust Donation" -> "Custom Amount" adjust to zero.

It has "the girl" series. Kicked a hornets Nest, Dragon Tattoo, etc.. also Spillane and Westlake lots of authors if your interested in that genre.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 19, 2021 09:23 AM (4D/dn)

208
Anybody else crack up laughing at the title "The Thing from HR"? in the picture of books covers?

Funny. HR is pretty horrifying...but still funny title.

Posted by: Sapwolf at September 19, 2021 09:23 AM (TGWA4)

209 I took the family on a canoe trip on the Des Plaines river yesterday. They didnt appreciate my rendition of Friggin in the Rigging.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 19, 2021 09:23 AM (O7ped)

210 I've never read them, but there are a series of books about by Russell Thorndike

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at September 19, 2021 09:18 AM (rUoFb)

You may kill Thorndike.

Posted by: Nurse Diesel at September 19, 2021 09:25 AM (7bRMQ)

211 I took the family on a canoe trip on the Des Plaines river yesterday. They didnt appreciate my rendition of Friggin in the Rigging.

But I did!!

Posted by: Shep! at September 19, 2021 09:26 AM (jvt6t)

212 I took the family on a canoe trip on the Des Plaines river yesterday. They didnt appreciate my rendition of Friggin in the Rigging.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 19, 2021 09:23 AM (O7ped)

Oh man! Sorry about the loss of your guns....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 19, 2021 09:26 AM (7bRMQ)

213 Over the course of the summer, I've been building a pair of shelves at my parents' place (because my Dad has table saws and power tools, while I do not). I've finally got them finished, brought back into my townhouse, and set up in their final locations. Granted, the shelves are small (1' wide by 6" and 10" deep, in order to fit into some corners and between some fixed features) but it was depressing how quickly I managed to fill them up! Still, at least now my reference book/Comic Omnibus shelf is more organized, and has a little space for new additions.

Posted by: Castle Guy at September 19, 2021 09:28 AM (Lhaco)

214 Also read An Exorcist Explains the Demonic by Gabrielle Amorth. Very interesting book. Amorth was an exorcist in the Catholic Church and has written two other books about his experiences, An Exorcist Tells His Story and An Exorcist More Stories. Very dry and focused on details. Something I found interesting is that Amorth believed that most ghost sightings were actually demons. Worth checking out if your interested in this kind of thing.

Posted by: prophet of the group W bench at September 19, 2021 08:54 AM (s37kI)
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The ghosts = demons things is also supported by Stephen J. Rossetti in his Diary of an American Exorcist, which I just finished. Very interesting stuff. He continues his diary online at catholicexorcism.org and offers commentary on various events.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 09:29 AM (llXky)

215 Posted by: Castle Guy at September 19, 2021 09:28 AM (Lhaco)

Ixnay on the helveshay. Don't wanna upset Ace....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 19, 2021 09:29 AM (7bRMQ)

216 Thanks for the comments about Where Eagles Dare. The only difference in the book and movie is at the beginning. In the book they have to climb down a cliff by rope and they sleep in tents not an alpine barn. I also love how the movie didn't bather with having them speak German and just has them speaking English while pretending to be German soldiers. And yes the mind games or whatever are kind of silly. The cable car scene near the end of the movie is a bit dated effects wise, still a great movie.
Random trivia-Iron Maiden has a song called Where Eagles Dare about the movie/book.

Posted by: prophet of the group W bench at September 19, 2021 09:30 AM (s37kI)

217 probably, it's like edwin wilson, he was an ex? navala intel operative, who made it rich selling weapons to the likes of qadaffi, his poaching company operatives was the pretext for the halloween massacre, it turns out the company big wigs had given him these orders, most of his underlings, secord clines, et al, surfaced in Iran contra, 20 years after his conviction, an atty dug up these orders, he lived another 8 yeaes,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at September 19, 2021 09:30 AM (hMlTh)

218 Kuttner and Moore -- plenty of their stuff is available on Kindle, including ebook editions of the old Ballantine "Best of..." collections. Well worth scrounging up is TWO-HANDED ENGINE, a nice compilation of their best work. Centipede Press did the hardcover, which would normally mean that used copies are priced out of range for most, but this one was reprinted by the Science Fiction Book Club so you can still find affordable copies. It includes the first story I can recall reading by Kuttner (back in '63 or thereabouts), a religious-themed piece called "A Cross of Centuries" --great stuff.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 19, 2021 09:30 AM (JzDjf)

219 Speaking of Dafoe, he also wrote Memoirs of a Cavalier, which Churchill used as the template for his own histories of the world wars.

And of course Journal of the Plague Year shows us what a REAL plague looks like.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 09:31 AM (llXky)

220 Wiki on keelhauling:

The common supposition is that keelhauling amounted to a sentence of either death by extreme torture, or minimally a physical trauma likely to permanently maim. The hull of the ship was usually covered in barnacles and other marine growth, and thus, keelhauling would typically result in serious lacerations, from which the victim could later suffer infection and scarring. If the victim was dragged slowly, his weight might lower him sufficiently to miss the barnacles, but this method would frequently result in his drowning. There was also a risk of head trauma from colliding against the hull or keel, especially if the ship was in motion. Additionally, if sailing through shark-infested waters, there was a risk of the victim suffering a fatal shark attack.

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What I don't understand is how do you get rope under the keel and up the other side to begin with?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 09:31 AM (d9FiS)

221 In keeping with today's pirate theme, here's a picture of Jen Psaki as a pirate.

https://tinyurl.com/4x3m8ap7

Posted by: 496 at September 19, 2021 09:31 AM (U1eOr)

222 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 09:29 AM (llXky)

Thanks for the link. Western Civ needs a good exorcism

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 09:32 AM (ONvIw)

223 Speaking of pirates, Muslim piracy was a bigger threat than the British kind for centuries. The "Redemptorist" orders were created to raise ransoms for captive Christians.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 09:32 AM (llXky)

224 could burton or eastwood speak german, he probably knew a few words, from spy, but I doubt it, the point of the story was the subterfuge, it was really a mole hunt, the one who sent the mission was covering his tracks,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at September 19, 2021 09:32 AM (hMlTh)

225 There is no man card violation if you get misty eyed a time or two while reading Lonesome Dove.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 09:32 AM (d9FiS)

226 Aaarrrrr, me hearty morons an' 'ettes !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 19, 2021 09:32 AM (jDHSU)

227 What I don't understand is how do you get rope under the keel and up the other side to begin with?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 09:31 AM (d9FiS)

Well, how do women wear thongs?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 19, 2021 09:33 AM (7bRMQ)

228 Has the crew from the Raging Queen checked in?

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 19, 2021 09:13 AM (slmIp)
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Currently visiting manly ports like San Francisco and Athens, Greece.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 09:34 AM (llXky)

229 "Anyway, I have set it aside for a few days, then I am going to give it a polish and send it out for feedback. I have a group of people interested in reading it, but if you'd like to be included, send me an e-mail through my nic and I'll make sure to send a file your way in a week or so."

I would love to read it, but I will wait until it is published so you can Get Paid for it.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 19, 2021 09:34 AM (CcOog)

230 My wife and I have agreement she is to shoot me if I ever leave the house wearing dress socks with topsiders.

I shall add cuffed shorts to the rule.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 19, 2021 08:10 AM (yrol0)

"This photo of President Nixon walking on the beach in black wing-tipped shoes came to symbolize Nixon's awkwardness. He once explained his fondness for formalwear . . ."

Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 09:34 AM (ssx3L)

231 -
What I don't understand is how do you get rope under the keel and up the other side to begin with?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 -
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Throw in front of boat and work it back.

Posted by: irright at September 19, 2021 09:34 AM (BB7pQ)

232 There is no man card violation if you get misty eyed a time or two while reading Lonesome Dove.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 09:32 AM (d9FiS)

That happened when I got to the part where P-Eye has to venture across the Llano Estecado by himself.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 19, 2021 09:34 AM (jvt6t)

233 What I don't understand is how do you get rope under the keel and up the other side to begin with?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 09:31 AM (d9FiS)

Start at the bow and work backwards on each side.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 19, 2021 09:37 AM (y7DUB)

234 Was Francis Drake an English hero or just a pirate?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at September 19, 2021 09:37 AM (cSyAR)

235 neverenough caffiene
I'm also rereading the Catholic Bible.
Start to finish. I'm in Mark right now. I skipped ahead to Revelations though because of our current times.

My first thought was, I'm screwed. But, I believe in G-d's grace and forgiveness so maybe not. Catholics were never encouraged much to read the bible. That's a shame actually. My edition includes a lot of apocropha which is interesting to me. I mentioned reading the Book of Ruth to a Protestant and he'd never heard of it.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at September 19, 2021 09:38 AM (FtJ1S)

236 50 exdem13

McAuslan is absolutely hilarious. If only for the dancing in the desert story the book is worth the coin.

Posted by: Bensdad00 at September 19, 2021 09:38 AM (m9Z12)

237 234 Was Francis Drake an English hero or just a pirate?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at September 19, 2021 09:37 AM (cSyAR)

Yes.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 19, 2021 09:39 AM (PiwSw)

238 Or you could lower 2 boats, one on each side, holding the weighted rope between them, and starting at one end of the ship move to the middle. Then bring the ends of the rope back on board.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at September 19, 2021 09:39 AM (rUoFb)

239 Thanks for the link. Western Civ needs a good exorcism

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 09:32 AM (ONvIw)
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Today's entry should be right up your alley: he talks of using cognitive-behavioral interventions to strengthen people against negative thoughts that can be exploited by demons.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 09:40 AM (llXky)

240 196 I watched Where Eagles Dare back in my teens and it was the awesomest movie ever. Watched it again a couple of years ago, and I have to say it had declined over the decades. The action parts weren't as thrilling, and the whole espionage mind games plot just made no goddamned sense at all.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 19, 2021 09:18 AM (QZxDR)

The critic Clive James used "Where Eagles Dare" as a prime example of hilariously bad and historically inaccurate filmmaking.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 19, 2021 09:40 AM (HabA/)

241 Ooooh, a day for pirates! I'll probably celebrate by reading some pirate themed comic books!

First on my shelf would be El Cazador, by Chuck Dixon and Steve Epting. Six issues of an unfinished story (the publisher abruptly went bankrupt) of multiple pirate factions clashing, teaming up, and clashing again. Wonderful art. But, alas, unfinished and long out-of-print. To get your own copy, you'll need to cruise the used book/comic market, or, well, sail the high seas yourself.

I also have one volume of the European comic 'Long John Silver.' Its a sequel to Treasure Island that follows the adventures of Silver, Dr. Livesey, and a bunch of new characters. The art is good, but the story falls into the unfortunate trend of having every single character (except Livesey) be a despicable person. That makes it something of a chore to read.

Posted by: Castle Guy at September 19, 2021 09:43 AM (Lhaco)

242 Broadsword calling Danny Boy.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated Kulak-American at September 19, 2021 09:43 AM (4I/2K)

243 The critic Clive James used "Where Eagles Dare" as a prime example of hilariously bad and historically inaccurate filmmaking.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V

Now, Tarantino, he's a stickler for detail.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 09:44 AM (d9FiS)

244 @223

Muslim pirates were why Jefferson formed the Marines, I think.

". . to the shores of Tripoli" Tripoli is in Libya.

Nothing new, under the sun

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 09:44 AM (AwPyG)

245 Today's entry should be right up your alley: he talks of using cognitive-behavioral interventions to strengthen people against negative thoughts that can be exploited by demons.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 09:40 AM (llXky)

Yes! I liked that.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 09:44 AM (ONvIw)

246 Has anyone watched The Age of Pirates on Netflix?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at September 19, 2021 09:45 AM (cSyAR)

247 Catholics were never encouraged much to read the bible. That's a shame actually. My edition includes a lot of apocropha which is interesting to me. I mentioned reading the Book of Ruth to a Protestant and he'd never heard of it.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at September 19, 2021 09:38 AM (FtJ1S)
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Emphasizing scripture has been a thing going back to when I converted 15 years ago, but before that, you are correct.

I think a lot of Catholicism in the US was an extension of ethnic identity and people retained it out of tribal loyalty. As anti-Catholic sentiment faded, so did that sense of loyalty and "legacy Catholics" became less active. The Church scandals removed another bunch. The ones that remain are much more orthodox, though.

Our Bishop declared this year as the Year of the Bible and has been leading a diocese-wide group.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 09:46 AM (llXky)

248 My tortugas are dry.

Posted by: Joetato at September 19, 2021 09:47 AM (slmIp)

249 My dad was a detective. You wouldn't believe me about which kind of detective he was or where. You just wouldn't believe. So contrive a fictional projection and that will be more believable than my words.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 19, 2021 09:48 AM (T1fV4)

250 Aha, Billy Bones! It's me, Blind Pew! I know you're here, Billy. Ya sniveling coward!

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 09:48 AM (AwPyG)

251 it's left unclear, the motivation of the german spy, why they would be in the schloss adler, (real location) why they would feed the phony general to the germans,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at September 19, 2021 09:49 AM (hMlTh)

252 Mediaite
@Mediaite
Designer of AOC's 'Tax The Rich' Met Gala Dress Owes Over $100K in Back Taxes, Accused of Being a Rent Deadbeat and Running 'Sweatshop' of Unpaid Interns

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I want a "Burn the Witch" tee shirt featuring AOC.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 09:49 AM (d9FiS)

253 Arr good morning.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 19, 2021 09:49 AM (T1fV4)

254 I watched Age of Pirates on Netflix, it was ok. The reenactment stuff is kind of cringe inducing. The overall historical stuff is pretty good.

Posted by: prophet of the group W bench at September 19, 2021 09:49 AM (s37kI)

255 196 I watched Where Eagles Dare back in my teens and it was the awesomest movie ever. Watched it again a couple of years ago, and I have to say it had declined over the decades.

It's sad when that happens. I had the same experience when rewatching the 1963 film 'The Haunting', based on Shirley Jackson's 'The Haunting of Hill House'. I remembered it as the most terrifying movie I'd ever seen. Watching it again, it seemed flat and not scary at all. The book is still scary, partly because you're not at all sure how much of the spooky stuff is really happening, and how much is the result of the main character losing her mind. In the movie they eliminated a lot of the doubt, and in the process took away the horror.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at September 19, 2021 09:50 AM (rUoFb)

256 he talks of using cognitive-behavioral interventions to strengthen people against negative thoughts that can be exploited by demons.

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Avoid the MSM?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 09:51 AM (d9FiS)

257 Re Fraser's novel 'The Pyrates': I'm a big fan of his, but I can't recommend this one. It was originally written as a screenplay which was rejected by the film studios, so Fraser bodged it into the form of a novel. It really doesn't work and if you're looking for less well known stuff by Fraser have a look at the Mac Auslan series or The Reivers, his history of the Scottish Borders clans.

Posted by: Bobo at September 19, 2021 09:51 AM (vfVgX)

258 The Church scandals removed another bunch. The ones that remain are much more orthodox, though.

Our Bishop declared this year as the Year of the Bible and has been leading a diocese-wide group.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 09:46 AM (llXky

Orthodoxy can be a good thing, instead of trendy, almost sacrilegious tangents. I had a bad High Holidays experience this year, from which I find it hard to recover. LOL. Between interpretive dance and straight out playing the serpent, I had to shut off my husband's favorite synagogue (I think he likes the Broadway level performances, and they, themselves call it "performance") and find a dowdier service to watch.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 09:52 AM (ONvIw)

259 My dad was a detective. You wouldn't believe me about which kind of detective he was or where. You just wouldn't believe. So contrive a fictional projection and that will be more believable than my words.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 19, 2021 09:48 AM (T1fV4)

After what 2020 and 2021 have shown me, I know two things:

1) There is nothing you could tell me that I would not believe was possible; and,
B) There is no way my imagination is equipped to come up with any possibilities.

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at September 19, 2021 09:52 AM (AXEQU)

260 154 Michael Crichton wrote a fun yarn "Pirate Latitudes."

I think it was the last book he wrote before dying.

That book was anything but fun - -it was a greedy corpse-rape by his family when the cash tap got turned off. It was unfinished in his lifetime and stuffed in a drawer (he wasn't working on it at death ) and they didn't even shell out for a proper ghosting, the last third is basically strung together scene notes instead of actual writing.

Posted by: Bensdad00 at September 19, 2021 09:52 AM (m9Z12)

261
That happened when I got to the part where P-Eye has to venture across the Llano Estecado by himself.
Posted by: Jak Sucio

P roamed in Montana. Gus was on the Llano Estecado when he was chasing after Blue Duck to rescue Lori.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 09:55 AM (+2sc/)

262 Avoid the MSM?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 09:51 AM (d9FiS)

Always a good idea. But in reality, people riddled with self doubt and feelings of hopelessness and self-isolation can be persuaded to rash actions. I think, if the Nashville bombing was truly done by that man, he was an easy mark.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 09:55 AM (ONvIw)

263 Winston - you may have been discussing another apocryphal book. Ruth is in the Protestant Bible, right after Judges.

Posted by: PabloD at September 19, 2021 09:56 AM (uwwPK)

264 You understand AOC and her antics much better when you remember that Cenk Uygur (of the Young Turks--very far left) had a casting call for a telegenic woman to run as a representative, then make her a political "star" AOC was chosen.

So she's doing what she's paid to do, and she's not very bright. But it explains why she gets so much PR.

I imagine she's not the only one who came through such a process.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 09:56 AM (AwPyG)

265 "Where Eagle Dare" loses a lot on TV, haven't seen it on a current tech screen, though. It was a film made to be projected on screen.
The "night" stuff on most old color films turns to digital mush.

Posted by: klaftern at September 19, 2021 09:56 AM (taPSh)

266 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 09:55 AM (+2sc/)

Thanks for the clarification. Maybe I need to read it again. Nevertheless, if you don't get emotional reading that, you're dead inside:

Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 19, 2021 09:57 AM (jvt6t)

267 @259

Yeah, there are some former detectives/major crimes police who have become successful authors, and they will tell you that they have to tone some stories down to make them believable.
Bruce Robert Coffin, David Putnam, for two.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 09:58 AM (AwPyG)

268 161 read the book, very good

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 09:58 AM (2JoB8)

269 All the Anguillans want is a return to their former status quo as loyal yet neglected subjects, a desire which both their new political overlord and their former colonial masters refuse to understand and actively thwart.
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The Mouse That Roared.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 19, 2021 09:59 AM (MIKMs)

270 For me to get Where Eagles Dare it helped immensely to work the storyline backwards.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated Kulak-American at September 19, 2021 10:00 AM (4I/2K)

271 Thanks for "The Pyrates" recommendation. The XO is the most devoted Flashman fan in the entire universe. I just ordered a used copy from ABE. AND has several more copies at about $5, including postage.

I just finished reading Louise Penny's "The Madness of Crowds". Excellent, as usual. Again, if you haven't read any of her books, start at the beginning and read in sequence. Each of Penny's books builds on the previous books in the series.

I got an eARC of Craig Johnson's "Daughter of the Morning Star". A couple books back, I got the feeling that Craig was running out of steam, that the Longmire books were coming to an end. "Morning Star" proved me wrong. Craig caught a second wind and is back to hitting on all eight cylinders. (Reminder: even the best writers produce the occasional clunker. It's when the clunkers start out numbering the good books that you quit reading.)

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 10:01 AM (BvRyV)

272 Baron. Put up your hands. I am a comment Detective.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 19, 2021 10:01 AM (T1fV4)

273 By accidental discovery YouTube has audio books

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 10:02 AM (2JoB8)

274 Yeah, there are some former detectives/major crimes police who have become successful authors, and they will tell you that they have to tone some stories down to make them believable.
Bruce Robert Coffin, David Putnam, for two.
Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 09:58 AM (AwPyG)

I can imagine. Some people are unbelievably bad and others' psychosis seems untrue no matter how real it is. People do dreadful stuff.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 10:02 AM (ONvIw)

275 @262

A lot of people seem to think the Nashville bombing was a false flag to destroy the servers housed at the ATT building that was destroyed.

What the servers did during the election is apparently known, but the servers would constitute hard evidence.

Same with Maricopa County--the players know exactly what happened on election night, but if you have the servers themselves, it provides hard evidence. That's why they don't want to give them up.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:03 AM (AwPyG)

276 Mohsen Fakhrizadeh was an Iranian nuclear scientist dedicated to developing a nuke to settle the Jews hash once and for all. Israel assassinated him last November.

New York Times World
@nytimesworld
Despite his prominent position, Iran's top nuclear scientist wanted to live a normal life. He loved reading poetry, taking his family to the seashore and driving his own car instead of having bodyguards drive him in an armored vehicle.

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So I guess he was just misunderstood.

P.S. "[T]he Israelis took him out remotely with an "A.I.-assisted, remote-controlled killing machine." Basically, the New York Times reports that it was a "remote-controlled machine gun" that killed Fakhrizadeh as he drove with his wife to a vacation house in an area near the Caspian Sea in Iran."

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So he was terminated by a Terminator. P.P.S. Want.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 10:03 AM (d9FiS)

277 269 All the Anguillans want is a return to their former status quo as loyal yet neglected subjects, a desire which both their new political overlord and their former colonial masters refuse to understand and actively thwart.
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The Mouse That Roared.

Mouse has a greed and a cynicism at its heart that the Anguillans didn't (and hopefully still don't)

Posted by: Bensdad00 at September 19, 2021 10:03 AM (m9Z12)

278 Catholic talk + Where Eagles Dare

Puddin Head Joe's On Eagles Wings

I've had the fortune of rarely encountering this out in the wild.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 19, 2021 10:04 AM (4D/dn)

279 @271

I heard Craig Johnson speak, once. Apparently many of the characters, the Indians in particular, are based on real people.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:05 AM (AwPyG)

280 I finished The Plague and I by Betty MacDonald.
it is her second book and talks about how she was diagnosed and treated for tuberculosis in 1938 in a TB Sanitarium near Seattle

Betty is a very clear observer and writer, her family is unconventional, and her attitude to the world is a combination of wonder and exasperation.

The treatment for TB prior to antibiotics was forced bedrest and reduce activity for patients to allow the body to encyst the infected parts of the lung in fibrosis. This required bed rest without action and limited speaking, intentional pneumpthorax to collapse the lung to allow it to heal, and at need surgery on the pleural cavity to "strip" the lungs' adhesions from the chest wall to allow full collapse of the lungs. There were more extreme surgeries as well. TB affects the lungs, but can also infect other organs and the throat and spine. Patients could spend years in a TB hospital.

Betty spent 9 months at the sanitarium surrounded by other women patients with varying wits, interests, outlooks and illness, some of whom were clearly dying; and nurses of varying compassion and lunacy, and at the end spoke of returning to her family and her life.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 10:05 AM (ssx3L)

281 The top picture makes me wish I was seeing it from a 32 gun British frigate.
I read most of Aubrey/ Maturing series

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 10:06 AM (2JoB8)

282 Reading the Bible ... good idea. ... an old meme: "The Old Testament is the NT concealed, the NT is the OT revealed." This link has a nice short story, or Bible lesson on that, which I found inspiring.

https://tinyurl.com/nrms2xhc

I (and probably most Christian Bible readers) read Isaiah 53 as prophecy of the coming Messiah/Redeemer. "Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."

But this great mystery of Jesus coming as a servant and becoming head of the One Body, being the sacrificial lamb of God, then later coming in power ... was hidden ... "had the princes of this world known, they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory".

Some fine points I disagree with, but it is good stuff.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 19, 2021 10:06 AM (Cus5s)

283 the spy story, was the pretext for the mountain climbing adventure,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at September 19, 2021 10:06 AM (hMlTh)

284 235 neverenough caffiene
I'm also rereading the Catholic Bible.
Start to finish. I'm in Mark right now. I skipped ahead to Revelations though because of our current times."

I'm reading the Catholic Bible too right now. We have Bible readings at Mass every week, but it's a whole different thing to read the Bible through and discover the major themes. I'm reading Proverbs now - the fear of the seductive gentile woman who will lure nice Jewish boys away from the faith is much more ancient that I had supposed. I'm also reading the Epistles - it's not always easy to follow Paul's train of thought. I think he was trying to work things out in his own mind as he wrote.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 19, 2021 10:07 AM (HabA/)

285 The Mouse That Roared.

Mouse has a greed and a cynicism at its heart that the Anguillans didn't (and hopefully still don't)
Posted by: Bensdad00 at September 19, 2021 10:03 AM (m9Z12)

Maybe they're greedy, but on such a modest scale, you can hardly hold it against them. I still remember fondly Count Rupert listing the wonderful benefits they expect to get from the Americans, especially their "hott doggs".

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at September 19, 2021 10:07 AM (rUoFb)

286
Catholics were never encouraged much to read the bible.

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It's not true that Catholics were discouraged from reading the Bible. What the Church did not want was Catholics reading unapproved translations from the Vulgate.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2021 10:09 AM (/U27+)

287 You can thank Jimmy Carter for that fvck's assassination. If it wasn't for him it wouldn't have been necessary.

The current fvck is stacking up reasons too.

Posted by: torabora at September 19, 2021 10:09 AM (aa+zj)

288 Ah The Eiger Sanction...if you like mountains with a side of murder.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 19, 2021 10:09 AM (T1fV4)

289 I've been sitting through books, preparing to downsize from a huge house to a tiny apartment. In doing so, I ran across books by Mardi Oakley Medawar. Mardi is Eastern Cherokee and wrote a four book mystery series about the Kiowa Indians prior to their being conquered and locked away in a Kansas reservation. The protagonist is Tay-bodal, a healer. (Think Wes Studi on a bad hair day.) The mysteries are good, but the main draw of the books is Mardi's depiction of the Kiowa people. Again, they need to be read in order of publication. Unfortunately, there was supposed to be a fifth book that Mardi apparently never got around to writing.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 10:10 AM (BvRyV)

290 Hiya Donna of the Ampersands !

Posted by: JT at September 19, 2021 10:10 AM (arJlL)

291 #286 So early day FDA and CDC.

Posted by: torabora at September 19, 2021 10:10 AM (aa+zj)

292 276 Mohsen Fakhrizadeh was an Iranian nuclear scientist dedicated to developing a nuke to settle the Jews hash once and for all. Israel assassinated him last November."

Another Haman gone. Good.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 19, 2021 10:11 AM (HabA/)

293 Hi, JT!

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 19, 2021 10:12 AM (HabA/)

294 Same with Maricopa County--the players know exactly what happened on election night, but if you have the servers themselves, it provides hard evidence. That's why they don't want to give them up.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:03 AM

Wanna bet those servers have already been wiped?

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 10:12 AM (JUOKG)

295 No talk like a pirate day would be complete without this-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f55CqLc6IR0

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 19, 2021 10:13 AM (VwHCD)

296
Despite his prominent position, Iran's top nuclear scientist wanted to live a normal life. He loved reading poetry, taking his family to the seashore and driving his own car instead of having bodyguards drive him in an armored vehicle.

Turning his life around, he was ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 10:13 AM (+2sc/)

297 Wanna bet those servers have already been wiped?

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 10:12 AM (JUOKG)

Still waiting for payment from Maricopa elections department!

Posted by: Cloths B Us at September 19, 2021 10:14 AM (7bRMQ)

298 Wanna bet those servers have already been wiped?
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 10:12 AM (JUOKG)

Wiped? Like with a cloth?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton, leaving bodies in her wake at September 19, 2021 10:15 AM (R/m4+)

299 @294

I wouldn't disagree. But that would violate both election laws and destruction of evidence laws. (Many laws re: destruction of evidence require a jury instruction that reads, because the defendant destroyed the evidence, the jury must presume the worst possible scenario against that defendant, and find accordingly)

So that's why this is dragging out--they're in a cleft stick. Latest rumor is that Maricopa will provide the servers, but the presiding person is dirty.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:16 AM (AwPyG)

300
By accidental discovery YouTube has audio books
Posted by: Skip

It does. "Lonesome Dove" and "The Gulag Archipelago" are two to which I have listened. Also, "Get Shorty" and a couple of Philip Marlowe mysteries.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 10:16 AM (+2sc/)

301 Pirates theme Book Thread? Well, ok.

I haven't read it yet so I can't recommend it. The subject matter is near and dear to my heart though

https://tinyurl.com/55jwubar
When Pops Led the Family: The 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates

Baltimore Orioles fans should probably skip it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 19, 2021 10:17 AM (QFVV9)

302 Where Eagles Dare was based on a book by Alistair MacLean. MacLean wrote two good books: HMS Ulysses and Guns of Navarone. After that, he fell into a formula that he followed for the rest of his writing career. The setting changed, but the basic plot and characters never changed.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 10:17 AM (BvRyV)

303 Yesterday, I was at Half-Price Books (always a dangerous place) picking out children's books for my grand-nephew, and I also bought "Perfume" by Patrick Susskind, which I have heard is very good, and "American Liberals and the Russian Revolution" by Christopher Lasch. I have read other things by Lasch and this book looked interesting. When I got it home and skimmed through it I discovered it was published in 1962, during the height of the Cold War. Lasch draws a distinction between the liberals and radicals - that was still possible to do in 1962. Not so much now.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 19, 2021 10:17 AM (HabA/)

304 Baltimore Orioles fans should probably skip it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 19, 2021 10:17 AM (QFVV9)

Damn whistle blowers!!!!

Posted by: Let It Be Lowenstein at September 19, 2021 10:18 AM (7bRMQ)

305 Speaking of Billy Bones, I was going to buy Treasure Island for my grandson, but it's pretty tough reading for a modern day kid.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:19 AM (AwPyG)

306 @300

A lot of audio books are freebies, on the dreaded Amazon.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:19 AM (AwPyG)

307 And a showcase for the lovely talents of Mary Ure and Ingrid Pitt. A fun movie.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated Kulak-American at September 19, 2021 10:19 AM (4I/2K)

308 What the Church did not want was Catholics reading the King James and the Luther versions.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 19, 2021 10:20 AM (xopIz)

309
New York Times World
@nytimesworld
Despite his prominent position, Iran's top nuclear scientist wanted to live a normal life. He loved reading poetry, taking his family to the seashore and driving his own car instead of having bodyguards drive him in an armored vehicle.

He liked pina coldas and getting caught in the rain. Of bullets.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 19, 2021 10:21 AM (63Dwl)

310 Where Eagles Dare was based on a book by Alistair MacLean. MacLean wrote two good books: HMS Ulysses and Guns of Navarone. After that, he fell into a formula that he followed for the rest of his writing career. The setting changed, but the basic plot and characters never changed.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 10:17 AM (BvRyV)

Akshully, WED the movie was first, then the book followed.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated Kulak-American at September 19, 2021 10:22 AM (4I/2K)

311 couple of Philip Marlowe mysteries.

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In the bizarre video game Chicken Police, a private detective character used to be Phil Marlowe but reinvented himself as Philmar Lowe.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 10:22 AM (d9FiS)

312 New York Times World
@nytimesworld
Despite his prominent position, Iran's top nuclear scientist wanted to live a normal life. He loved reading poetry, taking his family to the seashore and driving his own car instead of having bodyguards drive him in an armored vehicle.

Walks in the park, petting his kittuh's, painting sunsets, nuking Israel, and torturing infidels.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 19, 2021 10:23 AM (QFVV9)

313 Too good to miss:
https://tinyurl.com/Fedsnitch
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 19, 2021 08:49 AM (7Fj9P)

Back in the late 1990's there was a drive by the state of Oregon and the State Troopers to "get that armor piercing ammo off the street" by fining dealers who sold surplus ammo with steel cores. They troopers would send down data entry operators and the like from the Portland office to troll gun shows. They had no idea of what they were doing.
I saw one get a serious woody buying "steel core ammo" that was actual a sealed can of .50 Cal (and was exempt)
One of the dealers claimed he heard the idiot got reamed by his handler and guessed idiot would not get reimbursed for his purchase.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 10:23 AM (ssx3L)

314 296
Despite his prominent position, Iran's top nuclear scientist wanted to live a normal life. He loved reading poetry, taking his family to the seashore and driving his own car instead of having bodyguards drive him in an armored vehicle.

Turning his life around, he was ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 10:13 AM (+2sc/)

We gotta make him normal for some reason?

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 10:23 AM (ONvIw)

315 @309

So, he wanted to do a little annihilation, as a hobby. Is that so wrong?

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:24 AM (AwPyG)

316 My local rag has a long piece today about how Loneliness and isolation is causing mental health issues in old people.

After telling everyone to isolate for 18 months.

These people are fucking monsters.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I Help Ya Help Ya Help Ya Variant at September 19, 2021 10:24 AM (VO4Q+)

317 NY Times:

Despite his prominent position, Iran's top nuclear scientist wanted to live a normal life. He loved reading poetry, taking his family to the seashore and driving his own car instead of having bodyguards drive him in an armored vehicle.

So I guess he was just misunderstood.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 10:03 AM (d9FiS)

One wonders if he was an austere religious scholar, too.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 19, 2021 10:24 AM (nkMeH)

318 Disappointed at used book store only coming away with that little gem, of WWII, American Civil war, Russian history, Napoleonic novels - nothing

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 10:25 AM (2JoB8)

319
We gotta make him normal for some reason?
Posted by: CN

That was sarcasm and a dig at the Michael Brown apologists

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 10:25 AM (+2sc/)

320 In private life Hitler was a simple man who liked being with his dogs and painting

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I Help Ya Help Ya Help Ya Variant at September 19, 2021 10:25 AM (VO4Q+)

321 Read any good, or lousy, short stories lately???
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 19, 2021 09:02 AM (7bRMQ)

I will send you an email

Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 10:25 AM (ssx3L)

322 I ran across something previously unknown yestaday. An Andre Norton pyrate YA, Scarface. Haven't pulled the trigger on it yet, but Norton's usually pretty good.

Posted by: Fox2 at September 19, 2021 10:26 AM (qyH+l)

323 Thanks for Defoe link, OM. Haven't read him since 3rd grade.

Posted by: BignJames at September 19, 2021 10:27 AM (AwYPR)

324 I will send you an email

Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 10:25 AM (ssx3L)

Ok, thanks.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 19, 2021 10:28 AM (7bRMQ)

325 So that's why this is dragging out--they're in a cleft stick. Latest rumor is that Maricopa will provide the servers, but the presiding person is dirty.
Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:16 AM (AwPyG)

No doubt. And they know there will be no prosecutions and little coverage, so they can be as brazen as they like.

There's always a manipulation in the offing. Just like the idea that Biden will deport the huddled masses yearning to breathe free form Haiti. Of course the media will seize on the racial justice aspect and the libs will demand that they all stay. It's just failure theater, always failure theater.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 10:28 AM (ONvIw)

326 Speaking of semi-hilarious propaganda, the Daily Mail has been featuring covid victims every day, who "die" of covid, and their last words are always deep regret that they didn't take the vaccine. I am not kidding, it's that heavy-handed.

Another publication exposed the fact these are all crisis actors, but the Mail keeps pumping them out.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:28 AM (AwPyG)

327
A favorite used book store of mine, at which I used to stop on my way to and from Sussex County, in Milton, DE, alas is no more for several years now.

Neither is the Lewes Public Library holding its annual sale of used books due to ... wait for it ... the 'VID.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 10:29 AM (+2sc/)

328 Rush song "the wreckers" on their last album, is about this practice. Also the only rush song that includes lyrics 'Gather everything they can score'

cause sometimes the target is you

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at September 19, 2021 10:30 AM (C/fpg)

329
We gotta make him normal for some reason?
Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 10:23 AM (ONvIw)

__________

It's not like he voted for Trump.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2021 10:30 AM (/U27+)

330 MacLean wrote two good books: HMS Ulysses and Guns of Navarone. After that, he fell into a formula that he followed for the rest of his writing career. The setting changed, but the basic plot and characters never changed.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021

***
Pretty much true. His writing style became wordier, and by all accounts he hated to be edited, but his stuff still sold. Thus his later books sprawl quite a bit. Ulysses in contrast is a fine naval war story about the Murmansk convoys.

I recently read Ice Station Zebra, and it's less wordy than some of his stuff, at least.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 10:31 AM (c6xtn)

331 Speaking of propaganda, I hope everyone got to see the photo of the five "protesters" from yesterday, who were clearly FBI pretending to be Trump supporters. They were all wearing jeans shorts--it was hilarious.

everyone on gab was having a field day.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:31 AM (AwPyG)

332 Count de Monet: Thanks for the correction. I never saw the movie, just read the book. Didn't realize the actual sequence of events. It happened long before I stumbled into the bookselling world so I wasn't nearly as focused on the provenance of books/movies.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 10:32 AM (BvRyV)

333 Neither is the Lewes Public Library holding its annual sale of used books due to ... wait for it ... the 'VID.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 19, 2021 10:29 AM (+2sc/)

Maybe something nearby?

https://booksalefinder.com/DE.html

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 19, 2021 10:32 AM (PiwSw)

334 Where Eagles Dare was based on a book by Alistair MacLean. MacLean wrote two good books: HMS Ulysses and Guns of Navarone. After that, he fell into a formula that he followed for the rest of his writing career. The setting changed, but the basic plot and characters never changed.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 10:17 AM (BvRyV)

Where Eagles Dare

https://youtu.be/46TKmvPDGGs

Posted by: Robert *Be Ungovernable* - Iron Maiden, Senjutsu, OUT NOW!!! at September 19, 2021 10:32 AM (1Yy3c)

335 MP4, if you're still here, I'd be happy to do some proofreading if you think you need it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 19, 2021 10:33 AM (c6xtn)

336 Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre, in Pirate Speak at September 19, 2021 10:33 AM (KnJdm)

337 Speaking of semi-hilarious propaganda, the Daily Mail has been featuring covid victims every day, who "die" of covid, and their last words are always deep regret that they didn't take the vaccine. I am not kidding, it's that heavy-handed.

Another publication exposed the fact these are all crisis actors, but the Mail keeps pumping them out.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:28 AM

Odd because you can't talk if you an intubated.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 10:33 AM (JUOKG)

338 305 ... "I was going to buy Treasure Island for my grandson, but it's pretty tough reading for a modern day kid."

artemis, I don't know how old your grandson is but I read Treasure Island when I was 7 years old. (Needed a dictionary handy.) We got a copy for our grandnephew when he was six for his parents to read to/with him. It was a BIG hit.

If you do get the book, try to find an edition with the NC Wyeth illustrations. They are so vivid, sometimes scary, that they have stayed with me for 60 years.

Posted by: JTB at September 19, 2021 10:34 AM (7EjX1)

339 After that, he fell into a formula that he followed for the rest of his writing career. The setting changed, but the basic plot and characters never changed.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin
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Well, I'm not going to have that problem. I can't seem to stick the same genre for more than one book. Heck, I can't even get motivated to do the sequels to books that obviously were written with them in mind.

After Long Live Death, my wife said I should write another history book, and I agreed, looked at it, did some research and now I'm like "Nah, I think I'll write about religion instead."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 10:35 AM (llXky)

340 Morning.

I think I overdid it last night.

The aspirin is kicking in and the throbbing behind my eye is subsiding.

It hits me Talk Like A Pirate Day falls right in the middle of Hispanic Heritage Month. Someone wants to chase some Spanish Galleons, methinks.

Posted by: Robert *Be Ungovernable* - Iron Maiden, Senjutsu, OUT NOW!!! at September 19, 2021 10:35 AM (1Yy3c)

341 The following two books follow the careers of Chiang Kai-shek and May-ling Soong; the militarily inept but brilliant shakedown artist Chiang and Madame Soong the attractive, charming and thoroughly corrupt grasping wife.

The Last Empress by Hannah Pakula
Chiang Kai-shek by Jonathan Fenby

Chiang never wanted to fight the Japanese - the plan was to outlast the invaders via retreat and feint - yet he still killed a couple million of his own troops through poor planning, neglect and outright indifference.

Posted by: 13times at September 19, 2021 10:36 AM (WZs8y)

342
The problem with the movie Where Eagles Dare is that it has the usual protagonist-antagonist improbabilities. The bad guys are terrible shots but the good guys never miss. The bad guys get killed in a car crash but the good guys are unscathed. And the ammunition never runs out.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2021 10:36 AM (/U27+)

343 Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 10:32 AM (BvRyV)

It's another plot twist! MacLean's stories [like Fleming's] remain a happy place from boyhood.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated Kulak-American at September 19, 2021 10:36 AM (4I/2K)

344 Odd because you can't talk if you an intubated.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 10:33 AM (JUOKG)
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I saw one of our local papers featuring a story about an unvaxxed woman who - as she hovered on the brink of death - called up all her friends to tell them to get the jab.

Really? She had time to do phone-banking with everyone she knew before the end?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 10:36 AM (llXky)

345 And in more propaganda news, in denying approval for the boosters, the FDA was shown a chart comparing adverse affects from all vaccines in 2021 compared to the previous 10 years. (It was on Gab--sorry I don't know how to link)

2021 had more than 10 times the number from the previous 10 years COMBINED. Scary stuff, that no one is reporting on.

And the UK backed down when the NHS reported that more people had died from the vaccine than the disease, last month.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:36 AM (AwPyG)

346 Morons and cabin fever.
=====

No pirate-themed Moron thread would be complete without Muppet Treasure Island. 'We Got Cabin Fever' is a great song.

For military-type Morons, is Thoroughly Modern Milley deliberately channeling the 'eagle' character from Muppets? Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 19, 2021 10:38 AM (MIKMs)

347 330 -- Sixty-some years later, I am still steaming over the way Have done was butchered by Hollywood. MacLean wrote a fabulous tale about a group of men accomplishing a tremendous feat, and the first thing Hollywood did was change two characters from make to female. I guess the thinking was sex selks. The other thing that griped me no end is that in the book, the entire team, except for Dusty Miller, was British. In the movie, the only Grit in the cast, David Niven, played the American. OTOH, I still love watching those damn big guns blowing up.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 10:39 AM (BvRyV)

348 Them that die will be the lucky ones.

Posted by: Arrrrcher the Pirate at September 19, 2021 10:39 AM (IkO4H)

349 @338

Thank you--will do!

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:39 AM (AwPyG)

350 2021 had more than 10 times the number from the previous 10 years COMBINED. Scary stuff, that no one is reporting on.

And the UK backed down when the NHS reported that more people had died from the vaccine than the disease, last month.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:36 AM (AwPyG)
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I saw a chart on Twitter indicated that Covid vax has killed more people in a year than all other vaccines combined did since 1990.

But it's totally safe!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 10:40 AM (llXky)

351 Really? She had time to do phone-banking with everyone she knew before the end?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 10:36 AM (llXky)

It was just that important and powerful a message to not share.

Posted by: flounder at September 19, 2021 10:40 AM (KnJdm)

352 You're insulting Sam the Eagle!

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:40 AM (AwPyG)

353 Them that die will be the lucky ones.

Posted by: Arrrrcher the Pirate at September 19, 2021 10:39 AM (IkO4H)

Only the dead have seen the end of China virus booster shots.

Posted by: Shit Plato Said at September 19, 2021 10:41 AM (KnJdm)

354 And the ammunition never runs out.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2021 10:36 AM

Could be wrong but IIRC they did multiple magazine changes in that movie.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 10:41 AM (JUOKG)

355 For military-type Morons, is Thoroughly Modern Milley deliberately channeling the 'eagle' character from Muppets?
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 19, 2021 10:38 AM (MIKMs)

Trivia fun facts:
1. The eagle's name is Sam.
2. Sam is not a mewling traitor.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 19, 2021 10:41 AM (P4LRL)

356 This is too funny. Y'all were joking about a pirate book thread yesterday and I assumed it would never really happen. But here we are...

Posted by: Max Power at September 19, 2021 10:42 AM (QCc6B)

357 Ahoy, ye scurvy boogfagz!

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at September 19, 2021 10:42 AM (II3Gr)

358 And the ammunition never runs out.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2021 10:36 AM (/U27+)
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I didn't notice that, I noticed that MP 40s have apparently no recoil even when fired on full auto from the hip.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 10:42 AM (llXky)

359 I saw a chart on Twitter indicated that Covid vax has killed more people in a year than all other vaccines combined did since 1990.

But it's totally safe!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 10:40 AM

They stopped the swine flu vaccine in the 70s when ~50 people died from it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 10:42 AM (JUOKG)

360 *bookfagz

Arrrr...me fingers not be cooperatin'

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at September 19, 2021 10:42 AM (II3Gr)

361 This is too funny. Y'all were joking about a pirate book thread yesterday and I assumed it would never really happen. But here we are...

Posted by: Max Power at September 19, 2021 10:42 AM (QCc6B)

Ahem. Thar we be.

Posted by: flounder at September 19, 2021 10:43 AM (KnJdm)

362 Another publication exposed the fact these are all crisis actors, but the Mail keeps pumping them out.
Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:28 AM

I saw one with the comment that said that exactly, my uncle's last wish was that he had been vaccinated

"[John Doe]
1943 - 2013"

Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 10:43 AM (ssx3L)

363
It's sad when that happens. I had the same experience when rewatching the 1963 film 'The Haunting', based on Shirley Jackson's 'The Haunting of Hill House'. I remembered it as the most terrifying movie I'd ever seen. Watching it again, it seemed flat and not scary at all. The book is still scary, partly because you're not at all sure how much of the spooky stuff is really happening, and how much is the result of the main character losing her mind. In the movie they eliminated a lot of the doubt, and in the process took away the horror.
Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at September 19, 2021 09:50 AM (rUoFb)

The nocturnal banging on the doors is still scary for me in the 1963 version.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 19, 2021 10:43 AM (Fs5vw)

364 Ask not what your country can do for you; ask where you can get another China flu booster.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 10:44 AM (d9FiS)

365
I saw one with the comment that said that exactly, my uncle's last wish was that he had been vaccinated

_________

Wait, I thought everyone's last wish was defeating Trump.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2021 10:44 AM (/U27+)

366 Chiang never wanted to fight the Japanese - the plan was to outlast the invaders via retreat and feint - yet he still killed a couple million of his own troops through poor planning, neglect and outright indifference.

Posted by: 13times at September 19, 2021 10:36 AM (WZs8y)
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This is consistent with centuries of Chinese military tradition. Soldiers are scum, bandits in uniform and their deaths utterly unimportant. Foreign armies can be worn down through the sheer size of China, if they aren't directly assimilated.

The Communists, however, introduced a new element which Chiang hadn't counted on.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 10:44 AM (llXky)

367 I saw one with the comment that said that exactly, my uncle's last wish was that he had been vaccinated

"[John Doe]
1943 - 2013"

Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 10:43 AM (ssx3L)

My Grandpa's last wish was that fake news stop printing obviously phony stories about fake China virus vaccines.

Grandpa 1923 - 1992

Posted by: flounder at September 19, 2021 10:46 AM (KnJdm)

368 Four score and seven booster jabs, and we can stop wearing masks.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 10:46 AM (d9FiS)

369 Trivia fun facts:
1. The eagle's name is Sam.
2. Sam is not a mewling traitor.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 19, 2021 10:41 AM (P4LRL)
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Sam was there to be the ultimate straight man, something the rest of the zany cast could play off of. That was a fun show.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 10:46 AM (llXky)

370 347 -- Dear God, I HATE autocorrect!!!

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 10:47 AM (BvRyV)

371 The Communists, however, introduced a new element which Chiang hadn't counted on.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 10:44 AM (llXky)

It was the same one the Mongols used, though. Kill the entire city, then move to the next one and ask for surrender.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 10:47 AM (ssx3L)

372 I think that was the Iranian scientist's last wish, too.

Oh, wait; he didn't have a chance to make a last wish.

Such a shame.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:48 AM (AwPyG)

373 Probably most of us have seen the movie Ice Station Zebra. It's a fun flick and is worth watching just for Patrick McGoohan and Ernest Borgnine. And I love that chromed Vibraplex Bug morse code key they use on the sub.

But the book is a good, gritty read, tougher than the movie. I think it belongs with Guns of Navarone and HMS Ulysses.

Posted by: JTB at September 19, 2021 10:48 AM (7EjX1)

374 364 Ask not what your country can do for you; ask where you can get another China flu booster.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 10:44 AM (d9FiS)

The booster shit is real, old people are clamoring for it. They are getting "negative" antibody tests and freaking out.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 10:48 AM (ONvIw)

375 Poor Sesame Street went woke, and is a shadow of it's former self.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:49 AM (AwPyG)

376 fauci the troll is out doing damage control for biden claiming that biden never said they were going to start doing booster shots tomorrow, he said they were going to wait for fda approval before doing the boosters.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 10:49 AM (JUOKG)

377 I be readin' War Made New. Technology, warfare and th' Course o' History 1500 t' Today By Max Boot. Seems OK, with a different focus than usual in Mil History. Some funky conclusions, but basically sound, so far.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 19, 2021 10:50 AM (u82oZ)

378 375: It always had a social engineering element to it.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 10:50 AM (ONvIw)

379 The nocturnal banging on the doors is still scary for me in the 1963 version.
Posted by: Justsayin'

Many years ago, I saw a stage performance by barely professionals in a tourist hotel in Durango CO that was terrifying. The special effects were great!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 19, 2021 10:50 AM (d9FiS)

380 Was thinking a funny to me thing any Muslim convert even one reading about now from England takes a Arabic name.
How come Anglican convert anywhere in the world doesn't have a English name? A Mormon convert takes a American name?

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 10:50 AM (2JoB8)

381 Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 10:49 AM (JUOKG)

People can and are getting third shots

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 10:51 AM (ONvIw)

382 I didn't notice that, I noticed that MP 40s have apparently no recoil even when fired on full auto from the hip.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 10:42 AM (llXky)

They pretty much don't. They have a telescoping buffer that practically makes it feel like the bolt is riding an air cushion. I fired one, it felt like a fucking Cadillac.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 19, 2021 10:52 AM (VwHCD)

383 373 -- I've never seen Ice Station Zebra, but I did read the book. It was kind of formulaic, but much better than most of MacLean's post-Navarone output.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 10:52 AM (BvRyV)

384 The booster shit is real, old people are clamoring for it. They are getting "negative" antibody tests and freaking out.
Posted by: CN

Yeah, it'd interesting to see who all does the tests, and the percentages each are getting.

Posted by: MkY at September 19, 2021 10:53 AM (Foq6I)

385 Funny meme on gab yesterday about how we can't wait until the people with four shots turn on the people with only three.

Remember Alinsky's rules, and the rule about how mockery is the best weapon?

It's working--nobody is believing these clowns anymore.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:53 AM (AwPyG)

386 Pirate ships in my historical reading never were armed all that well, taking a merchant ship easy but even the smallest navy warship wasn't likely.

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 10:53 AM (2JoB8)

387 People can and are getting third shots

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 10:51 AM (ONvIw)

Yup. I was offered a booster already.

I think it makes less sense for boosters if they aren't changing the antigen to match the current variants.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 19, 2021 10:55 AM (Q9lwr)

388 -> 366 So true!

The military victories credited to Chiang were led by Galen - a Soviet comintern man who planned the northern expedition and crushed Wuhan.

Shanghai mafia bosses Big-eared Du and Pockmarked Huang handed Shanghai to Chiang on a silver platter.

Posted by: 13times at September 19, 2021 10:55 AM (WZs8y)

389 It was the same one the Mongols used, though. Kill the entire city, then move to the next one and ask for surrender.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 10:47 AM

Hey it works. The US Army in the last few weeks of the war in Europe would drive up to a German city/town and demand they surrender, if they didn't the town would get leveled. They only had to do it a couple of times and it saved a large number of American casualties.

Also, if a town surrendered and then someone started shooting at them while they were in that town, they would also level that town.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 10:55 AM (JUOKG)

390 El Salvador

The official Covid treatment package from the government includes Ivermectin.

https://tinyurl.com/36yt7d5f

Who is the 3rd World Nation??

Posted by: Capn Ned (Raging Queen) at September 19, 2021 10:55 AM (yrol0)

391 John McCain's dying wish was that everyone take the vax.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated Kulak-American at September 19, 2021 10:55 AM (4I/2K)

392 It was kind of formulaic, but much better than most of MacLean's post-Navarone output.
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Now compare MacLean's output to any 'military' adventure writer today. Have to say that MacLean was a power writer and even his tossoffs were literate.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 19, 2021 10:56 AM (MIKMs)

393 Back from Maine this morning. The most beautiful scenery in the world, some of it seen from boats and ferries.

I've been many times, but this was a trip of a lifetime.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 19, 2021 10:56 AM (TdMsT)

394 Was thinking a funny to me thing any Muslim convert even one reading about now from England takes a Arabic name.
How come Anglican convert anywhere in the world doesn't have a English name? A Mormon convert takes a American name?

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 10:50 AM (2JoB

Chinese immigrants are that way. When they have no green card they use Chinese first name, then when they get the card, they use a European first name. Not sure if it's a requirement.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 19, 2021 10:56 AM (7bRMQ)

395 Late to the thread. Has anybody mentioned MIT's Pirate Certificate? The student has to show skill at archery, fencing, pistol, and sailing. It satisfies the gym requirement.

Posted by: Wenda at September 19, 2021 10:56 AM (4grFk)

396 People can and are getting third shots

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 10:51 AM

Not sure how they are doing it when the FDA said they are not approving a booster shot. I guess they are lying about having already being vaccinated and getting another jab.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 10:56 AM (JUOKG)

397 Funny meme on gab yesterday about how we can't wait until the people with four shots turn on the people with only three.

Posted by: artemis at September 19, 2021 10:53 AM (AwPyG)

That meme.

https://tinyurl.com/5hwmm5se

Another.

https://tinyurl.com/43dtuatd

Posted by: flounder at September 19, 2021 10:57 AM (KnJdm)

398
fauci the troll is out doing damage control for biden

Is he on the Sunday morning shows today?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 19, 2021 10:58 AM (63Dwl)

399 Nagasaki and Hiroshima saved hundreds of thousands of lives.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 10:58 AM (BvRyV)

400 fauci the troll is out doing damage control for biden

Is he on the Sunday morning shows today?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 19, 2021 10:58 AM

Yes.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 19, 2021 10:58 AM (JUOKG)

401
Hey it works. The US Army in the last few weeks of the war in Europe would drive up to a German city/town and demand they surrender, if they didn't the town would get leveled. They only had to do it a couple of times and it saved a large number of American casualties.

________

They'd also tell the mayor to call the next town and say the Amis were on their way and please get out the white sheets.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2021 10:58 AM (/U27+)

402 If you have taken three shots then logically you must also wear three masks. It's science!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 19, 2021 10:59 AM (PiwSw)

403 I Sweden they are throwing out expired vax as new cases have gone to almost zero.

Posted by: Capn Ned (Raging Queen) at September 19, 2021 11:00 AM (yrol0)

404 Back from Maine this morning. The most beautiful scenery in the world, some of it seen from boats and ferries.

I've been many times, but this was a trip of a lifetime.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 19, 2021 10:56 AM (TdMsT)

I used to go up there every year. It really is something to see.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 19, 2021 11:00 AM (VwHCD)

405
Snood

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2021 11:01 AM (/U27+)

406 Chinese immigrants are that way. When they have no green card they use Chinese first name, then when they get the card, they use a European first name.
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Or do the last name/first name switch. Hispanic immigrants also do the mother's name/father's name switch.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 19, 2021 11:01 AM (MIKMs)

407

Yeah, it'd interesting to see who all does the tests, and the percentages each are getting.
Posted by: MkY at September 19, 2021 10:53 AM (Foq6I)

I think it's paranoid to keep getting these shots. How many times have you heard of parents making sure that the kids are immune to polio or Measles?

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 11:01 AM (ONvIw)

408 WE HAZ NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at September 19, 2021 11:01 AM (2JoB8)

409 If you have taken three shots then logically you must also wear three masks. It's science!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 19, 2021 10:59 AM (PiwSw)

Don't forget to put your right foot in, your right foot out, your right foot in, and shake it all about. Because that is what it is all about.

Posted by: flounder at September 19, 2021 11:01 AM (KnJdm)

410 369 Sam is in top form playing opposite the French cop in "Muppets Most Wanted."

For any of you Horde out there in need of a good laugh, "Muppets Most Wanted" is a Covid 19 Pandemic!!! must see.

Posted by: callsign claymore at September 19, 2021 11:01 AM (tsIH6)

411 396 -- I got the impression the FEW was recommending booster shots for individuals with compromised immune systems, but not the general populace.

Ack!!! Gotta run. Supposed to be somewhere in half an hour and I'm not even dressed yet. Thanks for the great conversation this morning.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 11:01 AM (BvRyV)

412 399 Nagasaki and Hiroshima saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at September 19, 2021 10:58 AM (BvRyV)

Yes, no matter what sort of retroactive wishcasting the left trots out

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 11:03 AM (ONvIw)

413 "I was going to buy Treasure Island for my grandson, but it's pretty tough reading for a modern day kid."

artemis, I don't know how old your grandson is but I read Treasure Island when I was 7 years old. (Needed a dictionary handy.) We got a copy for our grandnephew when he was six for his parents to read to/with him. It was a BIG hit.

If you do get the book, try to find an edition with the NC Wyeth illustrations. They are so vivid, sometimes scary, that they have stayed with me for 60 years.
Posted by: JTB

I read it when I was in Grammar school ! By all means, get it !

Hiya JTB ! Regards to the Missus !

Posted by: JT at September 19, 2021 11:03 AM (arJlL)

414 Was thinking a funny to me thing any Muslim convert even one reading about now from England takes a Arabic name.
How come Anglican convert anywhere in the world doesn't have a English name? A Mormon convert takes a American name?

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2021 10:50 AM (2JoB

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I think it depends on what your name was before. Muslim converts often take Christian names as a sign of their rejecting Islam, and vice-versa.

In the case of Westerners, they go with Arabic names as a way of rejecting their *culture* as well.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 19, 2021 11:04 AM (llXky)

415 Who is the 3rd World Nation??
Posted by: Capn Ned (Raging Queen) at September 19, 2021 10:55 AM (yrol0)

OMG, Pupusas, Crypto AND Ivermectin?

this truly IS Darien!

Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 11:08 AM (ssx3L)

416 To boost your appreciation of the 1963 THE HAUNTING, just watch the 1999 remake.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 19, 2021 11:09 AM (JzDjf)

417 416. Isn't there a Netflix version, too

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 11:12 AM (ONvIw)

418 Not books, but a TV comment... I've been watching a lot of Cocomelon in the evenings. The downside is I wake up with those damn songs in my head every day. The upside is, small children get factually transfixed by it. It helps V relax during our cuddle time at night, and it's totally cishet and wholesome family themes, and the singalongs are really starting to help with her verbal skills. Annoying AF, but I give it an A++.

The part I found interesting is that it exists. I was wondering how it got made in an environment where children's shows are all vapid trash with no redeeming value, and many have gay themes, etc.

Turns out that while Netflix recently picked it up, it's been around for many years, it's been the most watched children's show for some time, and it was made by a couple in their home for a YouTube channel.

Of course nobody in the media came up with this. They're so talentless.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 19, 2021 11:13 AM (FvCkv)

419 I think it makes less sense for boosters if they aren't changing the antigen to match the current variants.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 19, 2021 10:55 AM (Q9lwr)

Yep, and as far as I know BIL just got a third dose of the original Pfizer shot after getting a test which came back negative. He did not consult a doctor about the results, but charged ahead for a booster. He, and his wife and most of the 80yos I know are terrified of dying from this and are paranoid.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 11:19 AM (ONvIw)

420 417 - Yep, there's a Netflix series, but it's not actually a film of Jackson's novel or a remake of the 1963 film. More like variations on a theme -- not bad for what it is, but it's not pretending to be a straight adaptation of Jackson or a remake of Wise.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 19, 2021 11:21 AM (JzDjf)

421 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 19, 2021 11:13 AM (FvCkv)

So they'll steal it, or buy it, and add the subversive themes?

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 11:21 AM (ONvIw)

422 420: I don't watch netflix, and don't plan to, but good to know it's an "inspire by" series. I was tempted to watch the Last Mimsy, but was glad I checked to see if it had a new and improved plot. It did so I skipped it. I guess they needed happy ending .

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 11:24 AM (ONvIw)

423 Or do the last name/first name switch. Hispanic immigrants also do the mother's name/father's name switch.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 19, 2021 11:01 AM (MIKMs)

To be honest, they also do that when they have credit card debt, change the SSN they are working under, have tax dept, or child support orders, and are worried about wage garnishments

Posted by: Kindltot at September 19, 2021 11:25 AM (ssx3L)

424 422 - Never saw The Last Mimsy -- heard they played around with the plot, so I skipped it. Years ago, they actually filmed "Vintage Season," with Jeff Daniels. The picture's shown up under different titles (Grand Tour, Disaster in Time, Timescape) -- been eons since I've seen it, so I barely remember most of it, but they changed the ending.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 19, 2021 11:46 AM (JzDjf)

425 This week, the book that my wife (the lovely and accomplished Annalucia) and I are reading aloud is "Provenance: How a Con Man and a Forger Rewrote the History of Modern Art", by Laney Salisbury and Aly Sujo, two American journalists (that is, *real* journalists, not the NPCs that now fill the newsrooms). It's a fascinating story of how con man John Drewe worked with a talented but penniless artist, John Myatt, who had a knack for mimicking the styles of modern artists, to sell dozens of faked paintings, often through reputable galleries and auction houses. The scam succeeded as well as it did because Drewe managed to talk his way into the archives of a number of London establishments, including the Tate Gallery, to plant fake documentation establishing the provenance of his fakes. If you're read "The Painted Word", you know how empty the contemporary art establishment is; "Provenance" shows how two men exploited that emptiness to their advantage - until, of course, they went too far. Very readable, very entertaining: highly recommended!

Posted by: Nemo at September 19, 2021 11:57 AM (S6ArX)

426 424 422 - Never saw The Last Mimsy -- heard they played around with the plot, so I skipped it. Years ago, they actually filmed "Vintage Season," with Jeff Daniels. The picture's shown up under different titles (Grand Tour, Disaster in Time, Timescape) -- been eons since I've seen it, so I barely remember most of it, but they changed the ending.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 19, 2021 11:46 AM (JzDjf)

They changed everything from what I read, the names, the dates, the outcome, and made it into a environmental movie with the future people looking to repair the damage of environmental catastrophes.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 12:17 PM (ONvIw)

427 Posted by: Nemo at September 19, 2021 11:57 AM (S6ArX)

An antique dealer friend highly recommended this book. So, thanks

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 12:18 PM (ONvIw)

428 426 Then I'm glad I've forgotten practically all of it. One of the saddest things about the movie biz, I think, is that so many screenwriters/producers/directors think they know the original writer's story better than the original writer.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 19, 2021 12:27 PM (JzDjf)

429 They changed everything from what I read, the names, the dates, the outcome, and made it into a environmental movie with the future people looking to repair the damage of environmental catastrophes.
Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 12:17 PM (ONvIw)
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Is there anything Hollywood can't corrupt through wokeness?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 19, 2021 12:32 PM (K5n5d)

430 428 426 Then I'm glad I've forgotten practically all of it. One of the saddest things about the movie biz, I think, is that so many screenwriters/producers/directors think they know the original writer's story better than the original writer.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 19, 2021 12:27 PM (JzDjf)
As the writers are dead and childless, I wonder if anyone profited by selling that story to the butchers in HWood?

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 12:44 PM (ONvIw)

431 They don't need wokeness (not to say wokeness doesn't speed the butchery along) -- all they need is the assumption that everybody knows story better than the people who make their living writing stories. It goes way back -- watch Sunset Boulevard some time and note some of William Holden's lines about the things that happen to his scripts and stories once they get into production.

One of the bigger disappointments I've run across is Scorsese's remake of Cape Fear, which paled in comparison with the original film and melted down to sludge in comparison with John D. MacDonald's novel. And all because he had to mess with the story.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 19, 2021 12:47 PM (JzDjf)

432 Was going to dispute the MacLean criticism -- then remembered that I had read two of his later books -- "Seawitch" and "Floodgate" (?) -- and was thoroughly disappointed by both.

So, yeah, no argument from me.

My quibble with "Ice Station Zebra" is how abruptly it ended.

I have more of his earlier books, including the "Navarone" duo, but I have yet to read them.

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 19, 2021 12:49 PM (Om/di)

433 MacLean's earlier books are better, Floodgate was disappointing, but other stuff like the Navarrone books are great. It reminds me of John Buchan's spy stuff, they were super popular (and made into some great movies) at the time but seem so tame and lacking in any real tension today that they aren't as interesting or well regarded.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 19, 2021 12:53 PM (KZzsI)

434 430 -- I'm sure somebody profited on the sale of movie rights to "Vintage Season," and given how long it can take to get something into production, it might even have been C. L. Moore -- she outlived Kuttner by nearly 30 years, dying in 1987. Grand Tour came out in '91; I have no idea how long before that the rights had been sold and I'm too lazy to try to find out.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 19, 2021 12:56 PM (JzDjf)

435 The spice must flow.

Posted by: Snake Spirit at September 19, 2021 01:17 PM (CdZ4i)

436 "Muslim pirates were why Jefferson formed the Marines, I think."

I listened to this audio books. Very interesting and lots that was frustrating, but I learned a lot.

"Thomas Jefferson and the Tripoli Pirates: The Forgotten War That Changed American History"
by Brian Kilmeade

Posted by: Bonnie Blue no longer gives a shit at September 19, 2021 01:27 PM (hlxe7)

437 "What do you do with a drunken sailor?
"What do you do with a drunken sailor?
"Oh, what do you do with a drunken sailor, early in the mornin'?

Put him in charge of a car transporter, put him in charge of a car transporter.....!

Posted by: Pope John the 20th at September 19, 2021 01:28 PM (Ap+cR)

438 Yep, and as far as I know BIL just got a third dose of the original Pfizer shot after getting a test which came back negative. He did not consult a doctor about the results, but charged ahead for a booster. He, and his wife and most of the 80yos I know are terrified of dying from this and are paranoid.
Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 11:19 AM (ONvIw)

My cousin, in his mid 80's, is in a Seniors' Lodge in northern Alberta. Had two vaxes. Everyone in the Lodge, residents and staff, all vaccinated. He's got the Covid. He's not very sick, will most likely recover OK, but the vax clearly does not prevent one from getting it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2021 01:41 PM (coG5i)

439 Forgot to mention that I also read "The Wailing Asteroid" by Murray Leinster (1960). Not a classic but a fun read about an asteroid that wanders into our solar system and begins broadcasting a recorded message in a strange, flutelike warbling language. What does it mean? Are they friend or foe? And who will intercept the asteroid first, the U.S. or the Soviets?

This is from the era of the gentleman engineer who can build a rocketship in his fabricating shop. Our hero Joe Burke recognizes these signals from dreams he's been having since his boyhood and he feels literally compelled to build a ship with an advanced drive. Joe and his friends find the asteroid to be an abandoned fortress filled with weaponry. What they learn about the former occupants blows a lot of Midcentury minds.

It's dated but that's why I like it. It's a future that never came to pass in our timeline.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 19, 2021 01:46 PM (Dc2NZ)

440 I would like to second the recommendation of Donald E. Westlake's "Under an English Heaven". It is one of my favorites of Westlake's works and I once got to talk to him about it. This was around the year 2000 and Westlake was doing a book tour. He was answering questions and I asked him if he had ever thought of doing a second edition of that book with an epilogue covering what had happened to Anguilla and the people he had written about in the 30 years since it had been published. Westlake said that, alas, his publishers did not believe that there was the necessary public demand for such an updated version. He went on to say, however, that he had visited Anguilla since "Under an English Heaven" had been published and he had been very well received by the locals. Apparently Westlake was the only writer who had ever covered this story while paying attention to the Anguillans' perspective and treating them with respect.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at September 19, 2021 03:20 PM (iiVIr)

441 this is a fun Korean pirate movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOnUyuFaFDA

Posted by: DinkumThinkum at September 19, 2021 03:42 PM (30XF4)

442 378 375: It [Sesame Street] always had a social engineering element to it.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 10:50 AM (ONvIw)

Yes, was deliberately didactic, but it was mostly innocent: learn your ABCs and be nice to people. Today's SJWs would call it counter-revolutionary and revanchist.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 19, 2021 03:43 PM (nkMeH)

443 442. Hence, it needed updating. Bert and Ernie were always seriously weird if you thought about them much.

Posted by: CN at September 19, 2021 04:48 PM (ONvIw)

444 The author of the Horatio Hornblower books wrote a young people's history of the Barbary Coast that was a fun easy read:

https://tinyurl.com/hpjar2yw

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 19, 2021 07:02 PM (KZzsI)

445 Howard Pyle (the painter) wrote "The Book of Pirates"

It's pretty good, and you can find PDF's of it on the 'net

Posted by: a whisper from the back of the room at September 19, 2021 11:34 PM (C3X87)

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