Biden '75: Kabul Will Fall In Days, as Taliban Terrorists, Carrying Abandoned US Weaponry, Set For Final Take-Back of the Country

Meanwhile, Biden' has already called a lid and head to Wilmington for his "vacation" -- vacation from what? he doesn't work past noon most days -- as Kabul falls.

Four more provincial capitals fell yesterday, bringing the total of provincial capitals under Taliban control to 17. 17 of the 34 capitals. Half.

And they control two-thirds of the country as far as physical acreage.

The Taliban completed their sweep of the country’s south on Friday as they took four more provincial capitals in a lightning offensive that brought them closer to Kabul, just weeks before the U.S. is set to officially end its two-decade war.
In just the last 24 hours, the country's second- and third-largest cities -- Herat in the west and Kandahar in the south-- have fallen to the insurgents as has the capital of the southern province of Helmand, where American, British and NATO forces fought some of the bloodiest battles of the conflict.
The blitz through the Taliban's southern heartland means the insurgents now hold half of Afghanistan's 34 provincial capitals and control more than two-thirds of the country -- weeks before the U.S. plans to withdraw its last troops. The Western-backed government in the capital, Kabul, still holds a smattering of provinces in the center and east, as well as the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif.

They're only fifty miles outside the capital.

And Kabul will fall within days -- not the month Biden's hacks had previously claimed.

Idrees Ali
@idreesali114
U.S. officials say there is increasing concern that the Taliban could make a move on Kabul in a matter of days. The assessment of potentially encircling in 30 days appears to be obsolete now.

The spectacle of the superior and better-equipped Afghan forces fleeing in the face of the Taliban is reminiscent of how the Islamic State forces defeated the U.S.-trained Iraqi army.

It’s not as though the warning signs weren’t flashing red all along.https://t.co/fqEurReYFF
— Washington Examiner (@dcexaminer) August 13, 2021

While MARK MILLEY was reading Books about "white rage" -THE TALIBAN was busy Plotting to Take Over Afghanistan. Milley FAILED His country because he was too busy trying to SAVE HIS JOB, and he did that by Dissing Trump. Now he MUST GO. pic.twitter.com/XH5wkEsRpb
— Greg Kelly The PROJECT is a Secret (@gregkellyusa) August 13, 2021

🔥🔥🔥

"For the last seven months I've watched Generals engage in twitter fights with people, debate the merits of Critical Race Theory on Capital Hill. It seemed like our generals were more concerned with fighting Tucker Carlson than they were the Taliban" - @SeanParnellUSA pic.twitter.com/7dwzBj6A2c
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) August 13, 2021

But President Double Fudge has called it a lid and lammed it out to his safe space in Delaware, and the Administration refuses to schedule a briefing.

If the collapse of Afghanistan a la 1975 Vietnam were happening under the Trump administration, you'd bet your life that CNN, MSNBC, etc. would doing segment after segment berating @kayleighmcenany, @Alyssafarah, and the rest of the comms team for not having a WH briefing.
— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) August 13, 2021

But yes, the media won't cover or promote bad news for Biden, and the Biden Administration knows that. They'll just pretend the crisis away.

Posted by: Ace at 12:21 PM

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Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:22 AM (8D42x)

2 and i called corgis before i firsted...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:23 AM (8D42x)

3 Kaboom

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 13, 2021 11:23 AM (ZtlPF)

4 Just blow the place to smithereens already.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 13, 2021 11:23 AM (ZtlPF)

5 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at August 13, 2021 11:24 AM (0uh7N)

6 Just posted this on the previous thread. This is maddening!

@JulianRoepcke

The #Taliban not only seized appr. a hundred US humvees and (MaxxPro) MRAPs at Kunduz airport, but also several US ScanEagle drones.
Billions of US tax payer $ going to Islamist extremists, thanks to the administration's hasty withdrawal without a peace deal or follow up mission.

The sheer amount of vehicles raises the question if anyone ever used them after they were paid and transferred by the US ...
Now every Taliban fighter gets his own Ford, Toyota, Humvee or MRAP.

https://tinyurl.com/yhbysf4m

Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 11:24 AM (cF8AT)

7 I got Kabul falling on Sept.1...but it could be the 11th...these guys are not ignorant of history or symbolism.

Posted by: BignJames at August 13, 2021 11:24 AM (AwYPR)

8 I will again note the irony that if the Pentagon had simply followed orders, this would be Trump's mess, not Biden's.

Trump can sit on the sidelines and talk big about his plan would have been so much better, and the left won't be able to counter with much of anything other than Rhees.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 13, 2021 11:24 AM (LvTSG)

9 They aren't terrorists at this point. Sure, they use a lot of terrorist tactics, but it's clear now that the Taliban is Afghanistan's - the real Afghanistan, not the puppet state - regular army. They could not be progressing this fast if they were opposed. Their pace means that they are unopposed. If they are unopposed, then they are welcomed. If they are welcomed, they are desired.

The Taliban is the government that the people of Afghanistan want. Let them have it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2021 11:25 AM (3p5uk)

10 chocolate chocolate chip

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 13, 2021 11:25 AM (yrol0)

11 SO important that Trump didn't pull out so that we could spend a few more billion and lose.

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2021 11:25 AM (XHhHI)

12 9 to 5 President with 3 day weekends. At least Trump was still up at 2 a.m. sending "mean tweets".

Posted by: pahound at August 13, 2021 11:25 AM (ZBI3u)

13 Will make the Mogadishu Mile look like a cakewalk.

Burn in Hell Joey Bidet

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 13, 2021 11:25 AM (BdhLm)

14 Mazar-i-Sharif might be the only place the taliban DON'T take. because of the northern alliance, if it still exists...

and yeah, fuck biden and his, not going to be siagon bullshit

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:25 AM (8D42x)

15 I predict our embassy will burn to the ground on 9/11, for the propaganda effect.

Posted by: Mainah at August 13, 2021 11:25 AM (Boy/L)

16 I'm just going to repost my comment from the prior thread. It's on this topic.

It just demonstrates that the problem wasn't the Taliban. The progress they're making - if it's real - is only because people are willing to let them do so. They have to be fought off with heavy weapons for every inch of territory, but the moment you leave they come right back and do so quickly and without apparent effort.

So what does that tell you? It tells me that the *people* of Afghanistan are down with the Taliban, are happy to have them, and are welcoming them back. They certainly aren't interfering. So the problem is the people and population at large, not those nasty Taliban fighters who are oppressing them.

TL;DR: nation-building was a stupid idea without vanquishing the population first.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2021 11:25 AM (3p5uk)

17 Glad my Vietnam vet father did not live long enough to see this. His rage would have been volcanic.

Posted by: Jmel at August 13, 2021 11:25 AM (LbyUS)

18 Styx had an interesting take on this, that when Biden admin unilaterally said it would not honor the Trump-negotiated withdrawal date in May (so that they could withdraw on 9/11/21 for the political optics), it gave the Taliban the social capital it needed to recruit and get the support of the local population. Reneging on the withdrawal was bad optics IN AFGHANISTAN and may have strengthened the Taliban offensive.

The Biden admin is a catastrophe for the USA.

Posted by: Revenant at August 13, 2021 11:26 AM (ydlAE)

19 Days, not weeks.

Posted by: Max Power at August 13, 2021 11:26 AM (Hucnr)

20 Called it this morning, Sept 11 for the symbolism of Them sending the US packing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 13, 2021 11:26 AM (BdhLm)

21 The Taliban is just an idea.

Posted by: ... at August 13, 2021 11:26 AM (kmxth)

22 The local press has finally started reporting on Sam shim a school board member who called kids White supremist at a meeting to keep the officer in school, he has clarified that he was just calling 3 people who weren't wear masks racists because ... they weren't wearing masks

https://tinyurl.com/p6jrj8zy

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 13, 2021 11:27 AM (oVIhz)

23 15 I predict our embassy will burn to the ground on 9/11, for the propaganda effect.
Posted by: Mainah

I predict even if it does, it won't be mentioned in the MSM

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 13, 2021 11:27 AM (j2mKL)

24 I got Kabul falling on Sept.1...but it could be the 11th...these guys are not ignorant of history or symbolism.
Posted by: BignJames at August 13, 2021 11:24 AM (AwYPR)

i wonder if they take it on the 11th, or the 12th.

i say the 12th simply so they can claim to slay the great satan on the 11th and defeat his puppet the next day?

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:27 AM (8D42x)

25 The Taliban is the government that the people of Afghanistan want. Let them have it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2021 11:25 AM (3p5uk)
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The townspeople have always been worried about how mad they were making the Taliban if they came back.

They had no commitment to the type of government we were selling them. They were fair-weather riders.

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2021 11:27 AM (XHhHI)

26 Yes, there will be video of helicopters leaving the embassy. No, you will not see them.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 13, 2021 11:27 AM (kTF2Z)

27 21 The Taliban is just an idea.
Posted by: ... a

JV Team

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 13, 2021 11:27 AM (j2mKL)

28 "And Kabul will fall within days ..."

or hours at the rate they've been moving

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 13, 2021 11:27 AM (AHq56)

29 The #Taliban not only seized appr. a hundred US humvees and (MaxxPro) MRAPs at Kunduz airport, but also several US ScanEagle drones.

All according to * plan, no doubt.

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 13, 2021 11:27 AM (dB4Iz)

30 Yes, there will be video of helicopters leaving the embassy. No, you will not see them.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 13, 2021 11:27 AM (kTF2Z)
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Nah. They'll move ambassadorial operations to the airport. Easier that way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2021 11:28 AM (3p5uk)

31 Biden mysteriously showed up at the WH on Tuesday afternoon, when his staff expected him back days prior, on Sunday. That was the day of the famous "he got lost walking to his office" video.

He left for Wilmington yesterday afternoon, after two days at the office, and his PR staff says there is a lid until he returns.

Meanwhile, we hit a 20 year record on illegals, inflation reports came in at near 8 % and Kabul is about to fall. Federal shipments of sick people into Florida continue.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 13, 2021 11:28 AM (osIe+)

32
Lost Afghanistan?
Lol
You're mistaken.
I think I have German Shepherds.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 13, 2021 11:28 AM (t6XCL)

33 They had no commitment to the type of government we were selling them. They were fair-weather riders.
Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2021 11:27 AM (XHhHI)

Can't say as I blame them. Maybe they sensed what the Uniparty was better than we did.

Posted by: ... at August 13, 2021 11:28 AM (kmxth)

34 No, it wouldn't have been Trump's mess. He brokered a deal with all parties, including the Taliban, to pull out on a specific date. If we'd done that, we would have kept our word.

But the Dems couldn't let Trump have a win. They broke the deal. This is on them.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 13, 2021 11:28 AM (YynYJ)

35 The Biden admin is a catastrophe for the USA.
Posted by: Revenant at August 13, 2021 11:26 AM (ydlAE)
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Blues can't govern--that's why they want to rule.

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2021 11:28 AM (XHhHI)

36 what happened to The Northern Alliance? Is anyone supporting the good guys if there are any anymore?

WE should have done a king of the hill strategy. You mess with us we blow you up. Now i suppose we built a lot of stuff they will take over. Not that I know much about the subject, but that was my idea from day one. Make the leader of the terror very afraid.

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (LtwdY)

37 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

38 This isn't even the fall of Saigon, since the South Vietnamese fought bravely in the face of the advancing NVA, and likely would have held if the US had provided the promised airpower.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (jOcSX)

39 This will be worse than Cambodia. Not that we'll ever know about it.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (LZyIx)

40 As long as they stay in their zone, who cares? Sooner or later, though, they will lash out at a nation state that doesn't GAF and then they will be obliterated.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (ZIoLS)

41 In the aftermath of 9/11 we told Afghanistan to turn over bin Laden and associates or we'd fuck up their country. Well, that's what we did. Mission accomplished, as they say. The fact that the people in power whom we were threatening back then are the people who are now set to return to power is irrelevant.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (VbI7r)

42 Welcome back Carter...

Posted by: pahound at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (ZBI3u)

43 Styx had an interesting take on this, that when Biden admin unilaterally said it would not honor the Trump-negotiated withdrawal date in May (so that they could withdraw on 9/11/21 for the political optics), it gave the Taliban the social capital it needed to recruit and get the support of the local population. Reneging on the withdrawal was bad optics IN AFGHANISTAN and may have strengthened the Taliban offensive.

The Biden admin is a catastrophe for the USA.
Posted by: Revenant at August 13, 2021 11:26 AM (ydlAE)

you know, i've wondered about this. WHAT fucking political optics are GOOD about leaving on the same fucking day, 20 years after their attack?

anyone, fucking anyone have a thought on that? beuller? beuller?

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (8D42x)

44 "the *people* of Afghanistan are down with the Taliban"

Do typical Afghanis even regard themselves as citizens of a nation? My impression is that many of them live in isolated valleys, with no idea what's going on on the other side of adjacent mountains. All they know is their tribe is good, and that all surrounding tribes are potentially inimical.

Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (qpX6U)

45 OT (to Jane Galt):

Thanks for your stab at an answer to my question in the last thread!

Posted by: Brunnhilde at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (aW5/6)

46 What makes you think your puny guns can stop the US Army, hmmmmm? - Lefties

Lulz - Afghanistan

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 13, 2021 11:30 AM (hQVBP)

47 Let them enjoy their country purged of white supremacy. IDC. We've got to worry about our own existential problems.

Nice of our generals to leave the Taliban a lot of nice new gear though, courtesy of the US taxpayer. Hope they are rewarded well with a cush defense job when they retire.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 13, 2021 11:30 AM (DXFDM)

48 Remember Joe Biden assured the press corps that this wouldn't happen.

Youtube should start banning this real-world intrusion.

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2021 11:30 AM (XHhHI)

49 Democrats. Arming America's Enemies.

SSDD

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2021 11:30 AM (wRfHN)

50 34 No, it wouldn't have been Trump's mess. He brokered a deal with all parties, including the Taliban, to pull out on a specific date. If we'd done that, we would have kept our word.

But the Dems couldn't let Trump have a win. They broke the deal. This is on them.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 13, 2021 11:28 AM (YynYJ)

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And...you think the Taliban wouldn't have then moved on retaking as much of the country from the feeble government if an agreed upon date would have been reached?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 13, 2021 11:30 AM (LvTSG)

51 Oh yeah in Islamic countries a deal is a deal. One side can't openly repudiate a deal without consequences.

Well here's the consequences.

And remember Kipling's advice to a Tommy who gets captured by the Afghans.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 13, 2021 11:30 AM (BdhLm)

52 Make Afghanistan Taliban Again.

Posted by: Little Boomer at August 13, 2021 11:30 AM (PNCY7)

53 UNAVOIDABLE FACT: On the day that we commemorate the 20th anniversary of 9/11 - the Taliban will be ransacking and burning our embassy in Kabul. They worship symbolism and will love nothing more than to humiliate the USA on that day.

If we had any stones - we would drop a full payload of 2000 pound JDAMs from a B-1 bomber on our embassy on 9/11 as the Taliban overrun it.

Posted by: Java Joe at August 13, 2021 11:30 AM (2p/1y)

54 Some people are doing some things in Sh.tcanistan...

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 13, 2021 11:31 AM (dB4Iz)

55 @JulianRoepcke
The #Taliban not only seized appr. a hundred US humvees and (MaxxPro) MRAPs at Kunduz airport, but also several US ScanEagle drones.
Billions of US tax payer $ going to Islamist extremists, thanks to the administration's hasty withdrawal without a peace deal or follow up mission. ....
Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 11:24 AM (cF8AT)
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I can see why we would abandon equipment during a withdrawal. A lot of it is hard to move and heavily-used (worn out, or close to it) and has to be moved in-country and then shipped back home at titanic expense that is likely not justified by the retained value of the equipment or its replacement cost.

So I can get that. It looks wasteful and it probably is, but money also talks. What I cannot fathom, however, is why any abandoned equipment wasn't scuttled. Our withdrawal wasn't *that* hasty or disorderly. Every piece of equipment left behind should have been destroyed - holes in the engine blocks, sand in the transmissions, weapons crushed, etc. Leaving *functional* equipment behind - even if it isn't worth it to remove it back home - is so insane I can't wrap my head around it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2021 11:31 AM (3p5uk)

56 Yoo hoo?

Posted by: The Southern border at August 13, 2021 11:31 AM (GToyd)

57 Muslims killing muslims should be celebrated. They are feral animals that do not deserve protection gained with the spilling of American blood. They have tried to eradicate themselves over ridiculous tribal bullshit for 5000 years. The only thing that slows this cannibalistic nature is somebody else trying to stop it. Celebrate the reduction in muslim numbers with some bacon!

Posted by: Posting "First" should be a killin' offense! at August 13, 2021 11:31 AM (4TxFG)

58 My worry now is that the pace of the Taliban advance will mean that there won't be time to evacuate, and we end up with a battalion or two of marines surrounded by Taliban forces, while the WH dithers.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 13, 2021 11:31 AM (jOcSX)

59 Let them eat each other's guts. Not one more drop of American blood for them. Not one.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 13, 2021 11:31 AM (CWMF2)

60 Do typical Afghanis even regard themselves as citizens of a nation? My impression is that many of them live in isolated valleys, with no idea what's going on on the other side of adjacent mountains. All they know is their tribe is good, and that all surrounding tribes are potentially inimical.
Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (qpX6U)
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I think that sums it up. Their mentality is completely tribal, with no concern for the nation state. Anything within the tribe is good. Anything outside the tribe is bad.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at August 13, 2021 11:31 AM (ZIoLS)

61 I'll be watching you

Posted by: Slants at August 13, 2021 11:31 AM (uCLWI)

62 The site is acting very hinky for me today. Pixy, if you're around, every time I hit post I get an error message (though the comment in fact posts) and I need to reload the page again.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 13, 2021 11:31 AM (osIe+)

63 I must admit, I thought it would take the 'administration' longer to f**kup every part of our economy, statesmanship, foreign relations, medical establishment, financial system, personal freedom, rule of law, scientific inquiry process and supply train.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 13, 2021 11:31 AM (mD/uy)

64 Welcome back Carter...
Posted by: pahound at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (ZBI3u)
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*John Sebastian begins to strum*

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2021 11:31 AM (XHhHI)

65
It is April 1975 once again and I am watching the rapid fall of Vietnam with fellow students on the evening news -- except that I no longer bother to watch an evening news broadcast today.

While I must grant SloJoe and his muddle-headed minions full faith and credit for the rapidity of the current collapse in A-stan, it is our beeters in the Uniparty who have their greedy and bloody hands all other this one.

Gawrsh, you guys are schmart!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (+2sc/)

66 Weep not for the fallen...

Posted by: The Military-Industrial Complex at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (Xrfse)

67
The sheer amount of vehicles raises the question if anyone ever used them after they were paid and transferred by the US ...
Now every Taliban fighter gets his own Ford, Toyota, Humvee or MRAP.

How long does it take to pull an oil drain plug and turn the engine on? Or balance a thermite grenade on an engine block?

Hell, just drive by slowly and put a short burst of 50 cal into the engine as you cruise the motor pool truck park.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (n+4am)

68 From those of us OIF vets, we feel for those that went over the the 'stan over and over, only to get stabbed in the back.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (oUI8H)

69 Taliban is China's problem now. And vice versa.

Posted by: klaftern at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (r4sI4)

70 I must admit, I thought it would take the 'administration' longer to f**kup every part of our economy, statesmanship, foreign relations, medical establishment, financial system, personal freedom, rule of law, scientific inquiry process and supply train.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 13, 2021 11:31 AM (mD/uy)
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What did I tell you about Joe's ability?

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (XHhHI)

71 I wanted us out of the Afghan as we never really should have been there. BUT the way we are just bugging out like this is manifestly irresponsible.

But, look what allegedly "won" the election.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (s2VJv)

72 But mean tweets? Zero.
So all is well comrade citizens.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (l5FxP)

73 Pretty soon there has to be a conversation about whether citizens have a duty to serve in the military of our post-constitutional non-republic.

I'm inclined to believe we do not have that duty.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (sWM8x)

74 Well, at this point Biden shouldn't break his decades long streak of being wrong about everything in foreign policy.

Posted by: TC at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (eW/Pe)

75 I'm inclined to believe we do not have that duty.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
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We do not.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (oUI8H)

76 I've seen pics of Afghani women in the 70s. Happy, healthy, going to school, learning crafts and how to work, no burqas and that idiocy. It's really sad what it's become.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (hQVBP)

77 Taliban is China's problem now. And vice versa.
Posted by: klaftern at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (r4sI4)

Nah, China will lean on Pakistan, and the ISI will tell the Taliban to behave.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (jOcSX)

78 What makes you think your puny guns can stop the US Army, hmmmmm? - Lefties

Lulz - Afghanistan
Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 13, 2021 11:30 AM (hQVBP)
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They have rules of engagement - very bad ones that very accommodating for the enemy - in Afghanistan. They have all kinds of scrutiny around use of force and civilian death toll. None of those conditions will apply if things pop off at home. It will be a no-holds-barred operation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (3p5uk)

79 63 I must admit, I thought it would take the 'administration' longer to f**kup

It's not a f**kup when it's deliberate ... which is what I did not expect. At least not for *everything*.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (AHq56)

80 Islam is a cover for the narcotics operation. Follow the dope, then collect targeting information: sea, air, and land, plus financial.... white hat much?

Posted by: Stefan Vogelgezwitscher at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (ZDobU)

81 I'll take the opportunity to use this collapse of the US-propped up Afghan government to beat the Democrats over the head politically with...

But in truth, we all knew this was going to happen as soon as we pulled out. Trump wanted to do it, and the same damn thing would have happened.

F that place. I just don't give a damn about it. Pull up our tent stakes, flip em the bird on the way out and say "if you mess with us again we'll send you back to the stone age for a third time."

Posted by: Defenestratus at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (jL5iB)

82 So I guess AoS just wants to spend eternity in Afghanistan? Just keep throwing money and people at it like it was 2008? Retarded shit out of this site sometimes.

Posted by: Walt Jeffords at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (QkDT4)

83 Just hope the Bush and Cheney crowd are real pleased with themselves

they are bunch of sick fucks

history will take care of them

Posted by: REDACTED at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (uCLWI)

84 81 F that place. I just don't give a damn about it. Pull up our tent stakes, flip em the bird on the way out and say "if you mess with us again we'll send you back to the stone age for a third time."
Posted by: Defenestratus at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (jL5iB)

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Obama told me it was the important war.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (LvTSG)

85 Why didn't we destroy what we couldn't take back home. Leaving equipment for them to use against us is just stupid although having our equipment used against the Chinese seems Ok.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (0OmEj)

86 Welcome back Carter...
Posted by: pahound at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (ZBI3u)

I think Jimmuh is even shaking his head and saying "DUDE!!"

Posted by: Doof at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (mZUr4)

87 I do think the Taliban would have eventually won, yes. But the tribal leaders were on board with the negotiated settlement. I believe there would have been more pushback. It's a tribal culture. Your word matters. And the US does this time and again. I don't understand why any country would expect us to honor a treaty.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (YynYJ)

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Posted by: westminsterdogshow at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (/UQ/R)

89 Blues can't govern--that's why they want to rule.

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2021 11:28 AM (XHhHI)

Good point.

Posted by: BignJames at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (AwYPR)

90 And...you think the Taliban wouldn't have then moved on retaking as much of the country from the feeble government if an agreed upon date would have been reached?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 13, 2021 11:30 AM (LvTSG)

i think if PDJT was still in the oval office the deal would have been adhered to. under threat of serious bombing, potentially.

i.e. the "don't make me come back here" threat.

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (8D42x)

91
Well, at this point Biden shouldn't break his decades long streak of being wrong about everything in foreign policy.
Posted by: TC

Tripartite Iraq agrees!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (+2sc/)

92 46 What makes you think your puny guns can stop the US Army, hmmmmm? - Lefties

Lulz - Afghanistan
Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 13, 2021 11:30 AM (hQVBP)

MPPP made this sobering point when I said something similar a few weeks (?) ago - when the US military is given the command to pacify the "deplorable/insurrectionist" population, they won't have such restrictive ROEs.

Something to think about.

Posted by: Thrawn at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (wQb4c)

93 I was there with the Joint Task Force when the UN finally pulled out of Mogadishu. We gave up the Embassy, the seaport and finally the airport. It was done as well as could be expected but the fight was on between the different clans for control of the seaport and airport...whoever controlled those, controlled the city and made the money.
I suspect the fighting around the Kabul airport will be nasty and if we are smart, we'll leave sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (axyOa)

94 They have rules of engagement - very bad ones that very accommodating for the enemy - in Afghanistan. They have all kinds of scrutiny around use of force and civilian death toll. None of those conditions will apply if things pop off at home. It will be a no-holds-barred operation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (3p5uk)

Meh, the problem was less the ROE and more the failure to ever deal with the safe havens in Pakistan. The Taliban could exist only because the Pakistanis couldn't control the Northwest territories, and we weren't will to blow it all to hell.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 13, 2021 11:35 AM (jOcSX)

95 I'm inclined to believe we do not have that duty.

**************

On the other hand I do feel I will have a duty to join the 47th regiment of the Florida Marines to protect the Floridian borders against New York invasion.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 13, 2021 11:35 AM (hQVBP)

96 The Taliban is a more just and legitimate government than the one we installed, and is in fact more legitimate and just than the global American empire.

They are the good guys.

Posted by: Phuck California at August 13, 2021 11:35 AM (9fjYE)

97 As long as they stay in their zone, who cares? Sooner or later, though, they will lash out at a nation state that doesn't GAF and then they will be obliterated.
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM

*considers other pussified nations*

So...China, then?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 13, 2021 11:35 AM (m+jkK)

98
Posted by: Walt Jeffords at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (QkDT4)

HotAir is thataway.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 13, 2021 11:35 AM (n+4am)

99 whatever you do
don't put the blame on you

Posted by: Milley Vanilli at August 13, 2021 11:35 AM (oA+QO)

100 Today, the Biden-Harris Administration continued its advance from victory to victory on behalf of the American People!

I will not be taking questions today.

Posted by: Jen "Baghdad Bob with Freckles" Psaki at August 13, 2021 11:35 AM (AMIL/)

101 8th Century goat fuckers living in caves can beat tanks and fighter jets. Jan 6th rioters can take over Washington DC with bear spray.

But there's no way you rednecks can beat the US government with your Second Amendment, which is why we need to get rid of it.

- Standard Liberal "Logic"

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 13, 2021 11:35 AM (wNDOJ)

102 How long does it take to pull an oil drain plug and turn the engine on? Or balance a thermite grenade on an engine block?

Hell, just drive by slowly and put a short burst of 50 cal into the engine as you cruise the motor pool truck park.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (n+4am)

Being the proud owner of an H1 - I can tell you that without a motorpool and parts support to maintain those HMMWV's, they'll be cave ornaments pretty quickly.

Posted by: Defenestratus at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (jL5iB)

103
Ol' SloJoe seeded the Bre'r Rabbit and the Tar Baby scenario by asking the T'ban NOT to sack our embassy in Kabul.

Well played, dolt!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (+2sc/)

104 But in truth, we all knew this was going to happen as soon as we pulled out. Trump wanted to do it, and the same damn thing would have happened.

I'm not so sure... Trump gave a warning that he would bomb them to hell if they pulled anything and I believe he would have

Posted by: It's me donna at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (I2VcN)

105 Just blow the place to smithereens already.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 13, 2021 11:23 AM (ZtlPF)

I pray for your son.....

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (Zz0t1)

106 Can we send a helicopter to our embassy and drop off John Effing Kerry while we pick up our Americans?

Posted by: Roy at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (Ti+Tv)

107 A lot of us did not like it but I recall when even the Dems and Euros said Afghanistan was the only righteous war. Where are those guys now? It might seem dumb, but where is The Northern Alliance? Is anyone fighting back for real?

the problem in the end is it hurts the next time we try to do something. Be like Trump and don't go in every time. But the threat needs to be there and it has to mean someone is going to get their ass kicked.

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (LtwdY)

108 69 Taliban is China's problem now. And vice versa.
Posted by: klaftern at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (r4sI4)

now, do the punchline

Posted by: REDACTED at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (uCLWI)

109 Screw Afghanistan. Fucked up Muslims, birm.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (ufFY8)

110 104 But in truth, we all knew this was going to happen as soon as we pulled out. Trump wanted to do it, and the same damn thing would have happened.

I'm not so sure... Trump gave a warning that he would bomb them to hell if they pulled anything and I believe he would have
Posted by: It's me donna at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (I2VcN)

==========

"Would he?"
-The Joint Chiefs

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (LvTSG)

111 Dear US House Kangaroo Kourt to Investigate the Jan. 6th Not-Really-Trespassing Incidents at the US Capitol,

THIS is what an insurrection looks like, you retarded babbling motherf*cking hysterics.

In conclusion, go f*ck yourselves.

With eternal hate,

Posted by: spindrift at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (h5TKJ)

112 i think if PDJT was still in the oval office the deal would have been adhered to. under threat of serious bombing, potentially.

i.e. the "don't make me come back here" threat.
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (8D42x)

This.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (jOcSX)

113 The joke's on them. Hummers' get terrible gas mileage and they spew a ton of emissions. Greta will be shaming them in no time and no one can withstand that!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (kTF2Z)

114 I've seen pics of Afghani women in the 70s. Happy, healthy, going to school, learning crafts and how to work, no burqas and that idiocy. It's really sad what it's become.
Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (hQVBP)

One day they'll look back on similar pics of America like that. If they haven't all been destroyed.

Posted by: ... at August 13, 2021 11:37 AM (kmxth)

115 8th Century goat fuckers living in caves can beat tanks and fighter jets. Jan 6th rioters can take over Washington DC with bear spray.

But there's no way you rednecks can beat the US government with your Second Amendment, which is why we need to get rid of it.

- Standard Liberal "Logic"
Posted by: McLurkerson at August 13, 2021 11:35 AM (wNDOJ)
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They will have mercy and RoE with one, and not on the other, is what they are effectively saying.

Guess which one is which?

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 13, 2021 11:37 AM (XHhHI)

116 >>>This will be worse than Cambodia

Don't think so. That would be around 15 million.

Posted by: TC at August 13, 2021 11:37 AM (eW/Pe)

117 F that place. I just don't give a damn about it. Pull up our tent stakes, flip em the bird on the way out and say "if you mess with us again we'll send you back to the stone age for a third time."
Posted by: Defenestratus at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (jL5iB)
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Kind of hard to send them back to a place they never left...

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at August 13, 2021 11:37 AM (ZIoLS)

118
I'm probably lonely on this one. I don't really see this as a Biden administration problem. Losing A'stan has been inevitable at least ten (ten!) years now. This is a Democrat problem, it's mostly an Obama problem, and to a lesser extent, it's a Bush problem. It's not a Trump problem - he tried to get out already, and I guarantee he'd have done a better job of losing in Afghanistan than this.

But this day, when radical Islamist tribesmen regain control of this country as we retreat in ignominious defeat, has been the endpoint for a long time, now. I just can't throw it all on Biden's handlers.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2021 11:37 AM (GdOWZ)

119 80 Islam is a cover for the narcotics operation. Follow the dope, then collect targeting information: sea, air, and land, plus financial.... white hat much?
Posted by: Stefan Vogelgezwitscher at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (ZDobU)

the entre US Foreign Service dep't is cover for the narcotics operations. Probably why they get along so well with the muzzies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2021 11:37 AM (trdmm)

120 Why didn't we destroy what we couldn't take back home. Leaving equipment for them to use against us is just stupid although having our equipment used against the Chinese seems Ok.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (0OmEj)

A big part of me looks at the report about the vehicles left behind and I kinda just don't care. In a month they will be lucky to have 10% of them working. The rest they will strop for parts or anything valuable.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2021 11:37 AM (axyOa)

121 Taliban is China's problem now. And vice versa.
Posted by: klaftern at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (r4sI4)

now, do the punchline
Posted by: REDACTED at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (uCLWI)
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$20 same as in town?

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 13, 2021 11:38 AM (XHhHI)

122
Nah, China will lean on Pakistan, and the ISI will tell the Taliban to behave.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (jOcSX)

Maybe, but China is running out of natural resources and Afghanistan has a LOT of them. China will not hesitate to lay waste to the Taliban, unlike the US's RoE's.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

123 113 Greta will be shaming them in no time

What do you think Burkas are for ?

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 13, 2021 11:38 AM (AHq56)

124 Wait till the Taliban hears from the international community.

Posted by: Jen P. at August 13, 2021 11:38 AM (vN+oL)

125 Tucker had some military expert on who said this is a diversion from all the shit we are now doing in Syria and Yemen I believe... Might have been Somalia.. At any rate they are doubling down in those Countries

Posted by: It's me donna at August 13, 2021 11:38 AM (I2VcN)

126 We all told Bush 41 to blow that place back to the stone age after 9-11, and so here we are. Mission accomplished.

Posted by: Roy at August 13, 2021 11:38 AM (Ti+Tv)

127 "How long does it take to pull an oil drain plug and turn the engine on? Or balance a thermite grenade on an engine block?"

I used to collect old military radio gear and teletypes. The teletype field manuals indicated that the TTY kit included a sledge hammer, to be used if the equipment had to be abandoned. Also said a grenade would work if the hammer was missing.

Posted by: gp Reaching For Your Plate at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (qpX6U)

128 In addition to the narcotics, highly placed Democrats value Afghanistan's bacha bazi.

Posted by: Stefan Vogelgezwitscher at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (ZDobU)

129 Bush 43, too many to count

Posted by: Roy at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (Ti+Tv)

130 I'm calling bullshit. This is fake news, made up by white supremacists!

There is no conceivable way that the Taliban can be winning. They don't have any soldiers who are transitioning, they don't have any lesbian commanders, and they don't have any diversity or sensitivity training.

Posted by: Thoroughly Post-Modern Milley at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (9vQJW)

131 Did Gen Milley win the hotdog/ sandwich war?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (UCw22)

132 Under the Trump plan Western forces would have withdrawn while not being fired upon.

Bidet? 8,000 troops are going back to Afshitastan to be shot at while everyone runs away.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (BdhLm)

133 The joke's on them. Hummers' get terrible gas mileage and they spew a ton of emissions.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (kTF2Z)
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It's not the mileage I care about with hummers.

Posted by: Hunter at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (XHhHI)

134 It's a kindler, gentler withdrawal.

Posted by: George the Younger at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (Xrfse)

135 Maybe, but China is running out of natural resources and Afghanistan has a LOT of them. China will not hesitate to lay waste to the Taliban, unlike the US's RoE's.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

Again, China doesn't have to. The Taliban wouldn't exist today without the support of the ISI. The Chinese want the resources of Central Asia, so the Taliban will be made to play ball. No need to lay waste to anyone.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (jOcSX)

136 Maybe, but China is running out of natural resources and Afghanistan has a LOT of them. China will not hesitate to lay waste to the Taliban, unlike the US's RoE's.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

The Chi-Coms might think they have a whole new batch of test subjects for all those designer viruses they're coming up with.

Posted by: Thrawn at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (wQb4c)

137 Did Gen Milley win the hotdog/ sandwich war?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (UCw22)

His waistline lost.....

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)

138 "Would he?"
-The Joint Chiefs
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way

You have a point

Posted by: It's me donna at August 13, 2021 11:40 AM (I2VcN)

139 I was there with the Joint Task Force when the UN finally pulled out of Mogadishu. We gave up the Embassy, the seaport and finally the airport. It was done as well as could be expected but the fight was on between the different clans for control of the seaport and airport...whoever controlled those, controlled the city and made the money.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2021 11:34 AM (axyOa)

huh, I was on the Belleau Wood for that.

tiny world... glad you made it out safe.

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:40 AM (8D42x)

140 It was a brutal fight, we only lost 4000 troops and spent $6 trillion, but it is finally clear to the world that a hotdog is a hoagie!

-Gen Milley

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 13, 2021 11:40 AM (UCw22)

141 But this day, when radical Islamist tribesmen regain control of this country as we retreat in ignominious defeat, has been the endpoint for a long time, now. I just can't throw it all on Biden's handlers.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2021 11:37 AM (GdOWZ)

yes, but - you saw it coming, I saw it coming, anybody with any bit of sense saw it coming. But Team Biden seems to be totally gobsmacked that it is happening, and they have no idea what to do except to get down on their knees and beg for mercy from the barbarians. If the political fallout is bad enough, they''ll think they have to do something incredibly stupid to try and make up for it, god knows what that will be.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2021 11:40 AM (trdmm)

142 Posted by: Walt Jeffords

Looky here folks! An Oregon HS graduate!

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 13, 2021 11:40 AM (dB4Iz)

143 There's a reason Afghanistan is the "graveyard of empires." They have their own way of warfare, and we were just the latest goombah to waltz in and do nothing to understand it. It's almost Kabuki. Any group will roll over for the "strong horse" as long as they think they will be taken care of. They'll be "northern alliance" one week and "Taliban" the next, and back the week after that as long as the new guy that week won't kill them out of hand.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 13, 2021 11:40 AM (fpng3)

144 It's useless to ponder would have played out under Trump.

Posted by: Max Power at August 13, 2021 11:40 AM (Hucnr)

145 At least the military has white terrorists in its midst under control. So we can all sleep better now.

Posted by: Ripley at August 13, 2021 11:40 AM (MxEKc)

146
Again, China doesn't have to. The Taliban wouldn't exist today without the support of the ISI. The Chinese want the resources of Central Asia, so the Taliban will be made to play ball. No need to lay waste to anyone.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (jOcSX)

That goes against China's mantra. They lay waste to their own people. They won't blink when it comes to the Taliban.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)

147 One day they'll look back on similar pics of America like that. If they haven't all been destroyed.

Posted by: ... at August 13, 2021 11:37 AM (kmxth)

one of the first things the Taliban did was destroy monuments.

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 11:41 AM (LtwdY)

148 I'd like my hash to be ISWYDT.

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2021 11:41 AM (XHhHI)

149 This Saigon 2 crap is making me sick. I think of the lives lost, a d those that will be lost. Thinking of son's two buddies who committed suicide after returning home.

Thanks again, drooling, commie Biden voters.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at August 13, 2021 11:41 AM (ptqGC)

150 Wars are won in the will. Perhaps you've been fighting in the wrong field.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at August 13, 2021 11:41 AM (r3m4C)

151 The Taliban needs to sit in the corner and think long and hard about their standing on the world stage. No further questions. -Jen p-Hacky

Posted by: ... at August 13, 2021 11:41 AM (kmxth)

152 144 It's useless to ponder would have played out under Trump.
Posted by: Max Power at August 13, 2021 11:40 AM (Hucnr)

And that makes me sad

Posted by: It's me donna at August 13, 2021 11:41 AM (I2VcN)

153 We can start sending some of our woke SJW types over there to interview actual slaves. They can even role play a bit.

Posted by: Roy at August 13, 2021 11:41 AM (Ti+Tv)

154
Now, before I get flamed for defending these people, remember that I'm absolutely certain they're going to start another pointless forever-war in short order, and I'll blame that completely on them.

But one way or another, we had to be done with this shit. It's been over for a long time, except for the pretending.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2021 11:41 AM (GdOWZ)

155
Being the proud owner of an H1 - I can tell you that without a motorpool and parts support to maintain those HMMWV's, they'll be cave ornaments pretty quickly.
Posted by: Defenestratus at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (jL5iB)

Oh, I know. Less than a year after we got HMMWVs in the mid-80s, we started having problems with the front wheels literally falling off, because the front CV joint boot would get torn and let debris in to degrade the joint.

It's a lot of fun when you're riding in the battalion commander's Hummer and the front right wheel assembly just flies off at 30mph deep in the woods.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (n+4am)

156 Whenever the Chinese military goes fiddling around outside its own borders, they have a solid economic goal.

Posted by: klaftern at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (r4sI4)

157 maybe we have learn a lesson that my dad taught me when I was a pup

don't start up with something if you don't mean to finish it

Posted by: REDACTED at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (uCLWI)

158 If I hurry over to Kabul, I can still get a photo op.

Posted by: Jane Fonda at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (4I/2K)

159 Milley was trying to "understand white rage", so maybe he let this happen to take notes.

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (XHhHI)

160 Milley et al. learned NOTHING from the Iraq debacle.

I fear 9/11. It's going to be bad.

Doom....

Posted by: pj at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (G1dq6)

161 There's a reason Afghanistan is the "graveyard of empires." They have their own way of warfare, and we were just the latest goombah to waltz in and do nothing to understand it.

*************

I blame Bush for this. We should have just went in, flushed out Bin Laden and his cohorts, killed them all, mission accomplished, then left.

But no, he had to do NATION BUILDING.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (hQVBP)

162 A big part of me looks at the report about the vehicles left behind and I kinda just don't care. In a month they will be lucky to have 10% of them working. The rest they will strop for parts or anything valuable.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2021 11:37 AM (axyOa)

i'm wondering if ANYONE was smart enough to pull radios and any classified info out of all the gear left behind...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (8D42x)

163 Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 13, 2021 11:38 AM (AHq56)

Just for some levity...

Chicken and egg type scenario involving your nic and this song...

https://youtu.be/gMzHmdo7BEw

Posted by: Doof at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (mZUr4)

164 That picture of Biden eating ice cream while all hell is breaking loose is perfect.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 13, 2021 11:43 AM (NpAcC)

165 @nypost 4m

China reportedly prepares to recognize Taliban if it topples Afghan government

https://tinyurl.com/ygpevdal

Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 11:43 AM (cF8AT)

166 Biden's vacation is a vacation from revealing who he's meeting with. They aren't revealing who is coming to his home in Wilmington.

Posted by: buzzion at August 13, 2021 11:43 AM (vMCab)

167 Obama used to describe Afghanistan as "a war of necessity," a "war that we have to win."

Posted by: SMOD at August 13, 2021 11:43 AM (RHGPo)

168 That picture of Biden eating ice cream while all hell is breaking loose is perfect.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 13, 2021 11:43 AM (NpAcC)
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What flavor is that?

Posted by: The Press at August 13, 2021 11:43 AM (XHhHI)

169 So Joey is leaving his Delaware house and going to Camp David. As Jen Psaku said, "It's beautiful there."

Maybe Joe can relax and watch some of Hunter's home movies.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at August 13, 2021 11:43 AM (ptqGC)

170 I fear 9/11. It's going to be bad.
___

I don't.

It's all in God's hands, and right now, He's not all that keen on the US.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 11:43 AM (oUI8H)

171 Taliban will be made to play ball. No need to lay waste to anyone.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (jOcSX)
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How will the Taliban be made to play ball? What can you offer them except complete and total obliteration? Because of their culture, they'll gladly accept "martyrdom" for the cause. They spirits are as damaged and broken as the Palestinians, largely for the same reasons...

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at August 13, 2021 11:43 AM (ZIoLS)

172 Just for some levity...

Chicken and egg type scenario involving your nic and this song...

https://youtu.be/gMzHmdo7BEw
Posted by: Doof at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (mZUr4)

That one is in my rotation.....

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)

173 "before I get flamed for defending these people"

No, you're right. It was going to happen sooner or later.

Posted by: gp Reaching For Your Plate at August 13, 2021 11:44 AM (qpX6U)

174 MPPP made this sobering point when I said something similar a few weeks (?) ago - when the US military is given the command to pacify the "deplorable/insurrectionist" population, they won't have such restrictive ROEs.

Something to think about.
--------
The Russians did better with their ROE's.

You haven't met today's army. That video with the girl with two mommy's joining the army wasn't a parody.
Men are now allowed to wear earrings, nail polish, and pony tails while in uniform. The super troopers are getting out as fast as they can and will be the civilian resistance.

Posted by: Drc at August 13, 2021 11:44 AM (vbaSG)

175 One of Trump's arguments was this was inevitably going to happen no matter how long we stayed there so there is no point in hanging around. Again, Trump is proven right.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at August 13, 2021 11:44 AM (vN+oL)

176 So, Biden's dementia is so bad they can't even have him around any longer? The whole sidewalk incident was him returning from being away for a week. And now he's off for a vacay?

Does the media have zero self preservation instincts? I guess I'm assuming they're all suicidal at this point. They're not going to be able to pretend away Joe not even being able to talk to the country when war breaks out.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 13, 2021 11:44 AM (wAnMi)

177 Saigon and Mogadishu were close to water.

Kabul not so much.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 13, 2021 11:44 AM (BdhLm)

178 169 So Joey is leaving his Delaware house and going to Camp David

From one basement to another

Posted by: It's me donna at August 13, 2021 11:44 AM (I2VcN)

179 @130

Are we still doing thread winners here? Because that gets a solid nom.

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 13, 2021 11:44 AM (wNDOJ)

180 I like dunking on Biden too, but IDGAF. We were in there at least 10 years too long, and clearly whatever training we did to the Afghan army was pointless.

Supposedly the ChiComs want to invade them next, and I hope that happens.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (ZGrMX)

181 y'all remember the second term of the SCOAMF's performance? it seemed like all of his cabinet and spokesholes stepped on rake after rake? lit exploding cigars in their faces?

we're back to that

Posted by: DanMan at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (RusNE)

182 Pretty soon Americans won't be able to travel anywhere overseas.

Posted by: Chyna Joe Biden, face of the junta at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (osIe+)

183 Last night on Hannity, he had Joey Jones and Sean Parnell. In essence, how'd all these smart Fulkerson pushing this pull up stakes not see this coming?

Joey was saying last month, that the Afghans had 300k troops vs 75k, best armed military (i.e.- our shit) and would have very little problem.

I mean, people like Colnel Bearclaw and types like him. One can argue the fall, but this fast?

Maybe if some folks managed better rather than throw an eighth grade hissy fit quarrel with Tucker on Instagram actually did their fucking job, . . .

As hopefully to be Senator Sean Parnell said: Blame the suits. Not the boots.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (F4eQP)

184 They'll be "northern alliance" one week and "Taliban" the next, and back the week after that as long as the new guy that week won't kill them out of hand.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 13, 2021 11:40 AM (fpng3)

the only way to deal with places like that (other than to just quarantine them and stay the hell away) is the Roman model - go in, kill every man between the ages of 13 and 65, sell all the women and children into slavery somewhere lelse, and move in your own people to take their place, preferably your retired legionnaires. That's what they did in Dacia/Romania. 2000 years later, they still speak a latin derived language.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (trdmm)

185 i'm wondering if ANYONE was smart enough to pull radios and any classified info out of all the gear left behind...
Posted by: SturmToddler
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It's not that hard to zero out the radios and COMSEC equipment.

Then again, this is the new military.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (oUI8H)

186 so they get to live under the taliban. sometimes you get what you fucking deserve.

Posted by: x at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (oA+QO)

187
"President Biden, what things about eating ice cream in the White House have charmed you?"

-- inquiry from the next Pullitzer Prize winner for reporting

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (+2sc/)

188 I fear 9/11. It's going to be bad.
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I don't.

It's all in God's hands, and right now, He's not all that keen on the US.
Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 11:43 AM (oUI8H)

This is correct.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (BML4m)

189 A big part of me looks at the report about the vehicles left behind and I kinda just don't care. In a month they will be lucky to have 10% of them working. The rest they will strop for parts or anything valuable.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2021 11:37 AM (axyOa)

i'm wondering if ANYONE was smart enough to pull radios and any classified info out of all the gear left behind...
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (8D42x)

I'll bet that the parts depots were left intact too.

Posted by: Arnold SchwartzeN****R at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (AiZBA)

190
huh, I was on the Belleau Wood for that.

tiny world... glad you made it out safe.
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:40 AM (8D42x)
***

Cool!
I was as well.
I was and Army guy commanding the CISE Centcom Intelligence Support Element. Spent most of my time in the ship's intel center working with the Marine G-2.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2021 11:46 AM (axyOa)

191 i'm wondering if ANYONE was smart enough to pull radios and any classified info out of all the gear left behind...
Posted by: SturmToddler

HA! Without any inside knowledge at all, I'm certain it was part of the turnover procedures to let them keep everything.

State Dept is so very nuanced and schmart you see.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 13, 2021 11:46 AM (mD/uy)

192 This will all be PDT's fault, even though GWB & SCOAMF were responsible for starting and keeping us in that mess. Amazing how the press, when GW was in office, went on and on about the quagmire of Afghanistan, but, under SCOAMF, the press went silent.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 13, 2021 11:46 AM (DBbiE)

193 Unless the internet goes down, we absolutely *will* see the videos. Just not on television.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 13, 2021 11:46 AM (OssQ4)

194 Did y'all see my proposal that Americans prove they've been vaccinated in order to travel from one state to the next? Of course, illegal immigrants can continue to go wherever they want.

Posted by: Chyna Joe Biden, face of the junta at August 13, 2021 11:46 AM (osIe+)

195 163 https://youtu.be/gMzHmdo7BEw

thanks ... i guess ... still listening

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 13, 2021 11:46 AM (AHq56)

196 off stinky sock

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 13, 2021 11:46 AM (AiZBA)

197
It's not that hard to zero out the radios and COMSEC equipment.

Then again, this is the new military.
Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA

In high heels?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 13, 2021 11:47 AM (+2sc/)

198 To be fair to our brave, fighting fighters that fight generals-- the Taliban shoots back.

They've had their belly full of losing and went to the easier target: patriotic middle-class Americans.

And don't those Americans deserve it for daring to criticize losing losers that always lose (except at suckling up for promotions)?

Posted by: Mrm88 at August 13, 2021 11:47 AM (jIL4c)

199 i'm wondering if ANYONE was smart enough to pull radios and any classified info out of all the gear left behind...
Posted by: SturmToddler
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It's not that hard to zero out the radios and COMSEC equipment.

Then again, this is the new military.
Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (oUI8H)
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I tried. But I almost broke a nail!

Posted by: Cooper the Trooper at August 13, 2021 11:47 AM (XHhHI)

200 Oh, I know. Less than a year after we got HMMWVs in the mid-80s, we started having problems with the front wheels literally falling off, because the front CV joint boot would get torn and let debris in to degrade the joint.

It's a lot of fun when you're riding in the battalion commander's Hummer and the front right wheel assembly just flies off at 30mph deep in the woods.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (n+4am)

That has nothing to do with the CV and everything to do with the spindle clamp nut. The "axle" for the HMMWV/H1 is about.. ohh 8" long. It goes through the geared hub and is attached on the backside with a clamp nut with a locking screw. The re-installation instructions of that nut are VERY specific including a time limit on the entire torqueing process (has to be done within 10 minutes or you have to start over). If its not done properly there's a 100% chance that the wheel will fly off at speed.
The H1 community solved this issue of course with Stage 8 locking spindle nuts but the military? Well, the nuts are $125 a piece and they don't want to pay that much for a soldier's life I guess.

Posted by: Defenestratus at August 13, 2021 11:47 AM (jL5iB)

201 That one is in my rotation.....
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)

I have more than half of that album in regular rotation. 1st 4 songs from Vivid are top notch tunes.

Posted by: Doof at August 13, 2021 11:47 AM (mZUr4)

202 The Taliban needs to sit in the corner and think long and hard about their standing on the world stage. No further questions. -Jen p-Hacky
Posted by: ... at August 13, 2021 11:41 AM

Standing on world stage? Ha! We are standing on your embassy, whore of Great Satan! How do your children say, LOLGF!

Posted by: The Taliban at August 13, 2021 11:47 AM (m+jkK)

203 If you will donate to my Senate Princess Victory Fund, the GOP can take back the Senate! When that happens, I promise that I will immediately schedule some hearings to look into this Afghanistan thing. I might even issue some angry pronouncements.

Posted by: Miss Lindsey at August 13, 2021 11:47 AM (9vQJW)

204 As hopefully to be Senator Sean Parnell said: Blame the suits. Not the boots.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (F4eQP)

The boots with stars on them share some blame.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (BML4m)

205 171 Taliban will be made to play ball. No need to lay waste to anyone.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 13, 2021 11:39 AM (jOcSX)
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How will the Taliban be made to play ball? What can you offer them except complete and total obliteration? Because of their culture, they'll gladly accept "martyrdom" for the cause. They spirits are as damaged and broken as the Palestinians, largely for the same reasons...
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at August 13, 2021 11:43 AM (ZIoLS)

Palestinians are locked into a grudge match to the death with Israel. Taliban is just the local tribal leadership ruling Afghanistan. Odds are pretty good the Chinese won't have too much trouble doing business with them.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (z5Vrg)

206 ---
I tried. But I almost broke a nail!
Posted by: Cooper the Trooper at August 13, 2021 11:47 AM (XHhHI)

WAXXMYBALLS!!!!!

Posted by: Two Star Sargent Jessica Yanniv at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (Zz0t1)

207 Why worry about the Taliban re-taking Afghanistan? We all know the only real terrorist's we should worry about are White Supremacists.. Ge, Milley told us that...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (I2VcN)

208 "I fear 9/11. It's going to be bad."

Hoping all the bad stuff happens there and not here.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (qpX6U)

209 It's all in God's hands, and right now, He's not all that keen on the US.

******************

It might be pollyannish, but I think as long as there is a remnant of patriots God will show mercy. The American Revolution proved that, as a majority either sided with the empire or did not believe for a second that a war with them was winnable and were content to be british slaves, so it was left to a bunch of farmers who still believed and valued their freedoms over their own lives to prevail.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (hQVBP)

210 So they announced a withdrawal on 9/11/2021 and expected the Taliban to stay away until then. Brilliant plan. These are the same people making plans for the subjugation of us. That gives me some comfort.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (kTF2Z)

211 163 https://youtu.be/gMzHmdo7BEw

thanks ... i guess ... still listening
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 13, 2021 11:46 AM (AHq56)

After that one, check out "Middle Man"

Posted by: Doof at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (mZUr4)

212 Some Alzheimer's patients constantly demand ice cream.

Posted by: klaftern at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (r4sI4)

213 YD.......Morondezvous?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at August 13, 2021 11:49 AM (/UQ/R)

214 Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 11:24 AM (cF8AT)

Thanks Tami for all the links you share here. That fits w/ what Bomber used to post here. He was sent to Afghanistan to train Afghan fighters to fly planes we gave them that they didn't want and couldn't fly.
Our military brass i one smart group, just hope they are diverse enough. *spits*

Posted by: Farmer at August 13, 2021 11:49 AM (55Qr6)

215 And Kabul will fall within days -- not the month Biden's hacks had previously claimed.

I understand that I'm supposed to care. I have failed you.

Posted by: t-bird at August 13, 2021 11:49 AM (2nFxy)

216 YD above is correct. There was no way that the US could ever create a functional Afghan state without the people of that state wanting it and being willing to fight and die for it.

There are ways to run a functional empire/trading zone/area of influence but the US effectively cannot use those methods due to American exceptionalism. Jerry Pournelle, famous sci fi writer, former Poli Sci professor, and computer geek, put it best, the US can only run an incompetent empire because of our foundational beliefs.

Posted by: whig at August 13, 2021 11:49 AM (pO7gM)

217
I have more than half of that album in regular rotation. 1st 4 songs from Vivid are top notch tunes.
Posted by: Doof at August 13, 2021 11:47 AM (mZUr4)

Both Vivid and Time's Up are on the player in full. It really saddens me that their latest stuff went all BLM n' shit. I really enjoyed their talent.

Posted by: Two Star Sargent Jessica Yanniv at August 13, 2021 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)

218 i'm wondering if ANYONE was smart enough to pull radios and any classified info out of all the gear left behind...
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:42 AM (8D42x)

Look, the shoes, wardrobes, CRT binders and the score for the musical are safe. Have to prioritize. There will always be collateral damage. And all those weapons were scary AF anyway.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 13, 2021 11:49 AM (wAnMi)

219 We gave the Taliban just the tip then we withdrew. Brilliant war plan.

Posted by: ... at August 13, 2021 11:49 AM (kmxth)

220 Holy shit......what a sock fail.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)

221 Joey B. Not Joey J.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 13, 2021 11:50 AM (F4eQP)

222 I tried. But I almost broke a nail!
Posted by: Cooper the Trooper at August 13, 2021 11:47 AM (XHhHI)

WAXXMYBALLS!!!!!
Posted by: Two Star Sargent Jessica Yanniv at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (Zz0t1)
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A task I can handle!

Posted by: Cooper the Trooper at August 13, 2021 11:50 AM (XHhHI)

223
It's not that hard to zero out the radios and COMSEC equipment.

Then again, this is the new military.
Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (oUI8H)

As soon as I'm done with this level of Angry Birds, Sarge.

Posted by: Private Smedlap at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (n+4am)

224 212 Some Alzheimer's patients constantly demand ice cream.
Posted by: klaftern at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (r4sI4)

Which is actually true according to the Alzheimer's Assn.

Posted by: It's me donna at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (I2VcN)

225 Joey B. Not Joey J.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 13, 2021 11:50 AM (F4eQP)

Joey Lawrence > Joey Biden

WOAH!!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (Zz0t1)

226
YD.......Morondezvous?
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at August 13, 2021 11:49 AM (/UQ/R)

Oh, yeah!! Infidel mentioned it over the weekend. Hang tight, I'll email you later. Gotta check with the wife before I say for sure, but I think I'm in, and I'll email you as soon as I'm 100%.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (GdOWZ)

227 They are seizing equipment en masse. So far they have captured a bunch of tanks, some of our better ProMaxx MRAP's and a significant amount of artillery pieces. All of that will be focused on Kabul pretty soon. Along the way, reminiscent of ISIS, the Tali is reportedly taking girls as young as 12 as "war brides". Read sex slaves. The entire country is in total collapse and where their is a border, people are crossing it.

My thanks to all the useless GO's and piece of garbage DoS people who own this. All of it. The reason we stayed, say they, was to make them fight on their own. Anybody who spent 10 minutes training these people could have anticipated this.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (VpIIl)

228
Random baby joey in Oz >>>> Joey Biden

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (+2sc/)

229 Holy shit......what a sock fail.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)

HAHAHAHAHAH!! Now I won't be able to unsee "Jessica" when I listen to LC.

Posted by: Doof at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (mZUr4)

230 As if your pandemic virusometer wasn't already on '11', the WHO has decided to rollout fear of the Marburg virus.
Marburg virus (MARV) causes Marburg virus disease in humans and other primates, a form of viral hemorrhagic fever.

Posted by: SMOD at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (RHGPo)

231 We can't even keep and maintain a functioning government and repel our own internal enemies.

So the idea that a backwards 7th century country of goat herders is going to be able to resist other 7th century savages and barbarians from running the joint was always a fantasy.

I could commit to staying their indefinitely if it meant taking all of Afghanistan's resources such that they are.

Absent that, there was never any reason to set a single boot on the ground.

What a colossal waste of blood and treasure.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (iUAgd)

232
As soon as I'm done with this level of Angry Birds, Sarge.
Posted by: Private Smedlap at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (n+4am)

Who knew Gomer Pyle USMC was a flash into the future......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (Zz0t1)

233 Being the proud owner of an H1 - I can tell you that without a motorpool and parts support to maintain those HMMWV's, they'll be cave ornaments pretty quickly.
Posted by: Defenestratus at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM (jL5iB)

If those vehicle are diesel with a high pressure fuel system, the fuel filters need to be changed out or the engine will be toast. Especially in that sandbox.

Posted by: clutch at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (9UmRs)

234 I really don't care. 20 years, they can have it. What we really need - and will never get - is a definitive unveiling of just how badly our leadership -civilian and military- failed over 20 years in A-stan

Posted by: trump at August 13, 2021 11:52 AM (GSJcT)

235 It's not that hard to zero out the radios and COMSEC equipment.

Problem is the switch is marked "ZERO" and they're looking for one that says "ERASE".

Posted by: Blanco Basura -(SchxB)- moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 13, 2021 11:52 AM (SchxB)

236 You need us to run weapons to both sides, achieve a sort of lucrative peace. Peace with poppy production...

Posted by: The CIA at August 13, 2021 11:52 AM (pbStR)

237
HAHAHAHAHAH!! Now I won't be able to unsee "Jessica" when I listen to LC.
Posted by: Doof at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (mZUr4)

For this, I eternally apologize.

*hangs head in shame*

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:52 AM (Zz0t1)

238 YD above is correct. There was no way that the US could ever create a functional Afghan state without the people of that state wanting it and being willing to fight and die for it.
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While this is true the Democrats are never going to ever let us "win" a war again. The Republicans know this and lick Democrat taint on their best day anyway, and so are 100% complicit.

I'm convinced the whole thing was a useless exercise in profiteering for both parties, with a small amount of legit counter terrorism snuck in.

Posted by: ... at August 13, 2021 11:52 AM (kmxth)

239 66 Weep not for the fallen...
Posted by: The Military-Industrial Complex at August 13, 2021 11:32 AM (Xrfse)

I mean this as no offense to SMH and many, many other ex-military on this blog, but I can't pin this on the military-industrial complex, but the military itself. What in the [redacted] has the US Military been doing for the past 15-20 years? You can take someone from the mountains of WV and make them into a Ranger or a SEAL, but you spend $90 billion a year and you can't make an Afghani into a soldier? And you don't sound an alarm when you see that they're not capable? What kind of smoke have you been blowing up the orifices of your most ardent supporters over the last decade-plus?
And you take that goodwill and use it to poop on these same supporters, calling them domestic terrorists?

I'm sorry, it's high-time we take a hard look at defunding these idiots. I can't believe I'm even thinking this, much less typing it out, but the military belongs in the same class as the teachers unions.

You might blame W for getting you into this, but you've had 12 years to work your way out of it, and you've utterly failed - and that's all on you, not Bush. It's maddening.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 13, 2021 11:52 AM (3OYeh)

240 And Kabul will fall within days -- not the month Biden's hacks had previously claimed.

Time out, guys!

Posted by: Biden State Dept. at August 13, 2021 11:53 AM (4I/2K)

241 Does Milley actually believe in the danger of white rage or is he a flunky repeating what he's been ordered to day?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 13, 2021 11:53 AM (cSyAR)

242 "War brides"

So Michelle Obama will Tweet about bring back our girls? Again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 13, 2021 11:53 AM (BdhLm)

243 210 So they announced a withdrawal on 9/11/2021 and expected the Taliban to stay away until then. Brilliant plan. These are the same people making plans for the subjugation of us. That gives me some comfort.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (kTF2Z)

That is why I do not fear our deep state so much. Never accomplished anything.

Posted by: clutch at August 13, 2021 11:53 AM (9UmRs)

244 "The Chi-Coms might think they have a whole new batch of test subjects for all those designer viruses they're coming up with."

Taliban organ harvesting ... ftw.

but I have no clue on whether CCP can dig the Taliban out of their strongholds. I don't think they can just carpet bomb whole cities, assuming the Taliban does not hide in caves. ... CCP will maybe just off them (liars') loans. (but foreclosing might be dangerous)

Posted by: illiniwek at August 13, 2021 11:53 AM (Cus5s)

245 I'm a little bummed that we wasted so much money just to let China & the Taliban move in, but we realistically had no reason to be there and no exit strategy. Even against that backdrop, Biden* still managed to fuck up the exit. Perfect shit cherry on the shit sundae that is the sandbox.

Posted by: In Exile at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (dPOAr)

246 What do those who oppose the Taliban have to fight *for*? For *us*? Would you give your life for Joe Biden?

Posted by: Nemo at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (S6ArX)

247 It didn't help that Barry's ROE didn't allow our troops to fire on the "Tollybahn" until they were fired on first.

It's almost like Barry Hussein was on the side of his Muslim brethren.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (ptqGC)

248 The Taliban will regain Hero Status as soon as they kill enough of the People's liberation Army. It'll be hard not to root for them, just like we did when they were killing Russians.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (M9SBl)

249
It's all Bush 43's fault. - Dems

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (/U27+)

250 If those vehicle are diesel with a high pressure fuel system, the fuel filters need to be changed out or the engine will be toast. Especially in that sandbox.
Posted by: clutch
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They are, and they won't be.

The MRAPs especially are a b*tch to work on, due to the armor.

So yeah, good luck maintaining them.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (oUI8H)

251 211 After that one, check out "Middle Man"

better than the first one

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (AHq56)

252 Where's all our brave correspondents that supposedly took down Trump not over there covering Baracks "good war?"

And Bidens brilliant military strategy?

I'm calling you out Jim Acosta.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (F4eQP)

253
That is why I do not fear our deep state so much. Never accomplished anything.
Posted by: clutch at August 13, 2021 11:53 AM (9UmRs)

Um......wut?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (Zz0t1)

254 None of those conditions will apply if things pop off at home. It will be a no-holds-barred operation.

***************

50 years ago this would have concerned me. Now the army is all rainbow colors and woke women prancing through meadows to watch xer tranny broster marry a horse.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (hQVBP)

255 It's not that hard to zero out the radios and COMSEC equipment.

Then again, this is the new military.

Which picture in the manual is the "ZERO" button, Chief?

Posted by: Baltimore HS Valedictorian at August 13, 2021 11:55 AM (1vynn)

256 212 Some Alzheimer's patients constantly demand ice cream.
Posted by: klaftern at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (r4sI4)

Which is actually true according to the Alzheimer's Assn.

Posted by: It's me donna at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (I2VcN)

I didn't know that. I guess I can see some want extreme sensations because the minor ones don't have the same effect. I can see going for ice cream.

From my experience, they hold on to the things the most cared about the longest. Music is one that stands out to me. But I can see the ice cream thing.

not to get morbid but chewing can become a thing. The really shitty part is when swallowing becomes "a thing".

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 11:55 AM (LtwdY)

257 Rumsfeld's original "small footprint" plan for Afghanistan is looking a lot better now.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 13, 2021 11:55 AM (sWM8x)

258 210 So they announced a withdrawal on 9/11/2021 and expected the Taliban to stay away until then. Brilliant plan. These are the same people making plans for the subjugation of us. That gives me some comfort.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (kTF2Z)

Subversives are great at destroying but not so great at maintaining control. That's why they get shot by whoever takes power. "Whoever takes power" is where we're really rolling the dice.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 13, 2021 11:55 AM (z5Vrg)

259 MRAP pillboxes dotting the Afghan landscape.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 13, 2021 11:55 AM (BdhLm)

260 What a colossal waste of blood and treasure.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

That's what is killing me....all the loss of life, and military men and women coming back maimed both physically and mentally. On average, 21 a day commit suicide.

Posted by: Cheri at August 13, 2021 11:55 AM (oiNtH)

261 Anybody who spent 10 minutes training these people could have anticipated this.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (VpIIl)

Instead they decided sensitivity classes to understand the cultural need to rape boys was the important thing. Rather than just kicking their asses. IMHO the place would be far less attractive for Iranian proxys to set up shop if the safe radiation levels were a century or so away.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 13, 2021 11:55 AM (wAnMi)

262 Does Milley actually believe in the danger of white rage or is he a flunky repeating what he's been ordered to day?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 13, 2021 11:53 AM

My $0.02? No, and yes, much like half of the clowns spouting this BS.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 13, 2021 11:56 AM (m+jkK)

263 This pretty lady sitting by a canal as night falls over her city is glad that she's there instead of trudging through the graveyard of empires as this era in the Great Game draws to a close:
https://is.gd/MwcVDd

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2021 11:56 AM (3p5uk)

264 From the beginning preferred strategy has always been to grab a few air bases and work from there to just keep breaking shit. We should have told them a long time ago, we're taking these places and you boys work things out. You attack us? We will simply keep breaking and burning shit.

The original mission was to degrade their capability to attack us again. Now, we've given them the material, largess and an entire nation to do it.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 11:56 AM (VpIIl)

265 Posted by: Darrell Harris
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Yeah, yeah, we failed...blahblahblah.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 11:56 AM (oUI8H)

266 234 I really don't care. 20 years, they can have it. What we really need - and will never get - is a definitive unveiling of just how badly our leadership -civilian and military- failed over 20 years in A-stan

And likewise failures in Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Somalia, even Haiti. The harsh truth is that values of one civilization are not able to be transplanted to another if the people of that occupied civilization do not wish to adopt those values.

Posted by: whig at August 13, 2021 11:56 AM (pO7gM)

267 Sweet YD!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at August 13, 2021 11:57 AM (/UQ/R)

268 The entire national security team should be fired over their not even close to reality assessments of how this Afghan withdrawal would go. Anyone with a brain could see this coming. They really thought the Taliban would be nice? LOL.

Posted by: CDR M (Retired) at August 13, 2021 11:57 AM (cqZXM)

269 prayers for our guys in peril
and at least one general should be made an example of

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at August 13, 2021 11:57 AM (oEn12)

270 Will hold judgement to see if this was a clever ploy to lure them out and then rain hellfire upon them.

Yeah, yeah, I know...

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 13, 2021 11:57 AM (KbCG3)

271 "MRAP pillboxes dotting the Afghan landscape.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 13, 2021 11:55 AM (BdhLm) "

Yes, ones that cost about $2 million of American taxpayer money

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 11:57 AM (VpIIl)

272 When will CNN have Bowe Bergdahl on to explain all this?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 13, 2021 11:57 AM (BdhLm)

273 the silver lining in this debacle is that the MSM is gonna have to denounce the Taliban as the bad guys

Posted by: REDACTED at August 13, 2021 11:57 AM (uCLWI)

274 What do those who oppose the Taliban have to fight *for*? For *us*? Would you give your life for Joe Biden?

Posted by: Nemo at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (S6ArX)

The Northern Alliance was there before we went in officially. There are always going to be some fighting the aggressor in theory. My guess is a ton would gladly be rid of the Taliban. The key is can they organize and are they willing to fight?

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 11:57 AM (LtwdY)

275 Cuban Government agent-in-place and Secretary of Homeland Security Mayorkas told Border agents today that the US is unable to defend its border. Can't be done. Inspiring guy.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 13, 2021 11:57 AM (osIe+)

276 So the hummers and MRAPs will break down fairly quickly. Great. However, we're going to be treated to pictures and video in the next few days of the taliban rolling into Kabul in US equipment. Shameful. Only the best and brightest get to wear stars on their shoulders.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (kTF2Z)

277
I'm willing to bet that the stacks upon stacks of "Stop! Don't Touch Me There! This Is My 'No-No' Square" DVDs will be set ablaze in short order in the captured supply depots in A-stan.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (+2sc/)

278 the organization is probably the most difficult step.

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (LtwdY)

279 Biden: Shades of the worst of Nixon, Ford, and Carter.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (ynpvh)

280 The man spit his teeth during a televised debate! So, yeah ice cream is soft-probably gives the cone to his rabid dogs.

Posted by: pahound at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (ZBI3u)

281 I know, create a virus and spread it in Afghanistan, then freely offer to help, via a vaccine (which happens to have medium/long term deadly effects).

Posted by: illiniwek at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (Cus5s)

282 You win wars by killing people and breaking things.

You don't win wars by giving money to the people that want to kill you.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (DpkTQ)

283 8 I will again note the irony that if the Pentagon had simply followed orders, this would be Trump's mess, not Biden's.

===

The modern Pentagon excels at shootingnitself in the foot

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (oEn12)

284 What kind of smoke have you been blowing up the orifices of your most ardent supporters over the last decade-plus?
And you take that goodwill and use it to poop on these same supporters, calling them domestic terrorists?
___

You must be talking about the perfumed princes in the five-sided nuthouse.

Most of us enlisted folks don't have that kind of pull.

Or care about blowing smoke up your ass.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (oUI8H)

285 HAHAHAHAHAH!! Now I won't be able to unsee "Jessica" when I listen to LC.
Posted by: Doof at August 13, 2021 11:51 AM (mZUr4)

For this, I eternally apologize.

*hangs head in shame*
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:52 AM (Zz0t1)

All good, bro! You've built up enough credits in my book with the stuff you've recommended to me!

Posted by: Doof at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (mZUr4)

286 What a colossal waste of blood and treasure.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

My buddy was pretty involved in the finances to keep the fighters in line, and...it was just a shit show from start to finish. We just paid off the folks who were robbing us blind in order to delay them killing us. Horrific waste of money.

I can't even comment on the heroes that risked everything in that environment. Truly a horrific waste of some of the best among us

Posted by: In Exile at August 13, 2021 11:59 AM (dPOAr)

287 So they announced a withdrawal on 9/11/2021 and expected the Taliban to stay away until then. Brilliant plan.

We better commit more troops to fix our fuck-up, huh? (as if that wasn't the plan all along)

Posted by: Joey B. at August 13, 2021 11:59 AM (ELgVT)

288 268 The entire national security team should be fired over their not even close to reality assessments of how this Afghan withdrawal would go. Anyone with a brain could see this coming. They really thought the Taliban would be nice? LOL.
Posted by: CDR M (Retired) at August 13, 2021 11:57 AM (cqZXM)
---
Right. And it's not as though they didn't have time to plan for an orderly withdrawal.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 13, 2021 11:59 AM (sWM8x)

289 Back in the old old days a f*ck up like Afghanistan would get the general in charge literally crucified.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 13, 2021 11:59 AM (DpkTQ)

290 After that one, check out "Middle Man"

better than the first one
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (AHq56)

Last one I'll suggest -- Desperate People

Posted by: Doof at August 13, 2021 11:59 AM (mZUr4)

291 SMH,
Those MRAPS are International or Navistar, right? If so, I am very familiar with their engines. Not exactly Cat or Cummins quality.

Posted by: clutch at August 13, 2021 11:59 AM (9UmRs)

292 It strikes me that the media is doing a piss poor job of covering up Biden's dementia.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 13, 2021 11:59 AM (cSyAR)

293 Of course the Taliban jumped the gun - why wouldn't they? I served with the UN in Lebanon in the 80s, and the Dutch contingent decided to pull out. They told their troops 30 days ahead of time to NOT to have any 'incidents' in the interval. Guess what happened? For 30 days, insurgents robbed, pillaged, and ransacked all the Dutch outposts, while their troops stood around helplessly. Idiots.

Posted by: goatexchange at August 13, 2021 11:59 AM (bDyGY)

294 I recall ace mentioning a study where soft serve ice cream was found to help soothe dementia patients.

Analysis: True

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 13, 2021 11:59 AM (hQVBP)

295 "They've had their belly full of losing and went to the easier target: patriotic middle-class Americans."

They don't know what pain is but will rapidly discover their mistake when they go up against someone that's got no where else to go and nothing else to loose.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at August 13, 2021 11:59 AM (qZdIZ)

296 230 As if your pandemic virusometer wasn't already on '11', the WHO has decided to rollout fear of the Marburg virus.
Marburg virus (MARV) causes Marburg virus disease in humans and other primates, a form of viral hemorrhagic fever.
Posted by: SMOD
_________

I can only hope that the Biden administration won't be so stupid as to try to limit travel from Guinea into the U.S. That would be so incredibly racist and we would lose the respect of the international community.

Posted by: Furious George at August 13, 2021 11:59 AM (9vQJW)

297 I didn't know that. I guess I can see some want extreme sensations because the minor ones don't have the same effect. I can see going for ice cream.

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 11:55 AM (LtwdY)
---
I think it's also that they're closer to their childhood in this state as well.

My wife has noticed that her mom, as she ages, uses the phrase "as a girl" a lot more, talks about what her mom made her and stuff.

My MiL's mom is the warning, she went over to dementia in a *big* way.

Posted by: Cooper the Trooper at August 13, 2021 12:00 PM (XHhHI)

298 @JohnBasham 5m

BREAKING: Proof that @Ilhan Omar married her own brother to bypass US immigration rules? DNA test from congresswoman's cigarette butt purports to show 99.99% match to her second husband Ahmed Elmi!

https://tinyurl.com/yh68nrnq

Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 12:00 PM (cF8AT)

299 the silver lining in this debacle is that the MSM is gonna have to denounce the Taliban as the bad guys
Posted by: REDACTED at August 13, 2021 11:57 AM (uCLWI)

Yeah. Maybe when they interrupt their COVID 24/7 fuckfest to talk about it.

Posted by: ... at August 13, 2021 12:00 PM (kmxth)

300 Back in the old old days a f*ck up like Afghanistan would get the general in charge literally crucified.
___

Now they get book deals and guest spots on CNN.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 12:00 PM (oUI8H)

301

Your turn China

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 13, 2021 12:00 PM (M+Lyo)

302 What can't Joe and Kamalama fuck up?

Posted by: wth at August 13, 2021 12:00 PM (v0R5T)

303 273 the silver lining in this debacle is that the MSM is gonna have to denounce the Taliban as the bad guys
Posted by: REDACTED

I bet they are still gonna blame whitey oppression naking poor taliboobs do it

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at August 13, 2021 12:00 PM (oEn12)

304 One of my distinctive memories of the '99-'00 post-Monica years was very-online nutroots types regularly calling whatever cardboard Republican cut-out was handy "Taliban." I think there were some libs who didn't like this, Mavis Leno was their spokeswoman for some unfathomable reason, but only to avoid trivializing the bad portents from Opiumstan. Nobody analyzed the new thoughtless lefty tic too much, which is completely continuous w/ the cosplay handmaids during I Like Beer's confirmation.

Then after 9/11, because Gore wasn't POTUS, Democrats and Air America abruptly dropped the insult and wanted to go on fact-finding missions and break bread with Pathan warlords, etc. I think this discredited their party on natsec, a point to which it'd take the Republicans another 7 years to catch up.

In the meantime there's a generation of NPC liberal to come up with no memory of that. I wonder what is *their* Rorschach-blot reaction to the fearsome T Boys (which means "students," ha). May just view em as a garden-variety third-world trafficking gang, which is fair. OTOH a 40-y.o. MoveOn type would be more expected to have the gears popping and spinning out of her head.

Posted by: Swamposphere at August 13, 2021 12:00 PM (1Txkd)

305 as has been referenced, the original flaw was this entire idea that we could "nation build" with nothing but pack of ignorant barbarian savages. They would "love democracy!" No they won't - they don't want it, can't understand, will never make it work. It was always an incredibly stupid uselessly ideological move that was guaranteed to fail. For all of the scorn we heap on the Taliban, at least they know how to rule in a shithole like that. We sure as hell don't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (trdmm)

306 What a colossal waste of blood and treasure.

--

A certain symmetry to the current state of our very own country. And both caused by the "elite" running the military, as well as the political class over the past few decades. If only they were held to account.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (O+I8R)

307 You must be talking about the perfumed princes in the five-sided nuthouse.

Most of us enlisted folks don't have that kind of pull.

Or care about blowing smoke up your ass.
Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (oUI8H)

I'm most assuredly talking about those folks, not the enlisted ones, SMH. I just don't understand how they can get away with this for all of these years. I listened to a general wonder with bemusement how this could have happened.

I definitely don't mean any offense to the rank-and-file.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (3OYeh)

308 I doubt that Shrub or Cheney were ever in a real fight

not some skirt wearing, tit pushing event

but a "either your face ot knuckles hurt" fight

fucking pussies

Posted by: REDACTED at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (uCLWI)

309 178 169 So Joey is leaving his Delaware house and going to Camp David

From one basement to another

Posted by: It's me donna at August 13, 2021 11:44 AM (I2VcN)

I wonder if the move to Camp David after less than 24 hours in Delaware was the plan yesterday? Or if the Biden Junta suddenly needed a much more secluded place to dream-up BS statements that will blame Trump and Dubya for the fall of Afghanistan to Islamic butchers, seven months into Joe's time "on watch"?

Posted by: Gref at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (AMIL/)

310 Les Aspin got fired for Mogadishu.

Will anyone pay for this cock-up?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (BdhLm)

311 Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 13, 2021 11:54 AM (Zz0t1)

Strictly intimidation and never any push back. You're worried about Stroke and the rest of them? Really?

Posted by: clutch at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (9UmRs)

312 Can we send a helicopter to our embassy and drop off John Effing Kerry while we pick up our Americans?
Posted by: Roy at August 13, 2021 11:36 AM

Neigh.

Posted by: John "Order of the Blue Falcon" Kerry at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (a3Q+t)

313
And Biden slept.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (/U27+)

314 Biden: Shades of the worst of Nixon, Ford, and Carter.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (ynpvh)

probably dumber than Carter though. Really, should anyone truly blame him for his policies?

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (LtwdY)

315 Marburg!!! Stay safe.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (Xrfse)

316 Those MRAPS are International or Navistar, right?
___

Yep, and OshKosh also.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (oUI8H)

317 You don't win wars by giving money to the people that want to kill you.

Who said anything about wanting to win? *pats pallets full of cash*

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 13, 2021 12:02 PM (1vynn)

318 I am looking forward to the Spin,

US LEAVES AFGHANISTAN AHEAD OF SCHEDULE!

Posted by: rd at August 13, 2021 12:02 PM (Z32m1)

319 The entire national security team should be fired into the Sun over their not even close to reality assessments of how this Afghan withdrawal would go. Anyone with a brain could see this coming. They really thought the Taliban would be nice? LOL.
Posted by: CDR M (Retired) at August 13, 2021 11:57 AM

Fixed to conform to the AoSHQ Style Guide.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 13, 2021 12:02 PM (m+jkK)

320 Kabulshit. Gesundheit.

Posted by: wth at August 13, 2021 12:02 PM (v0R5T)

321 And the Taliban may have a special 9/11 Twentieth Anniversary Gift for New York.

You can probably count on it. The world is emboldened by the US' weakness.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 13, 2021 12:03 PM (19g6/)

322 315 Marburg!!! Stay safe.
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (Xrfse)

I'm rooting from SMOD

Posted by: In Exile at August 13, 2021 12:03 PM (dPOAr)

323 Are there any old hippies left in Kabul?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 13, 2021 12:03 PM (cSyAR)

324 You can blame what passes for military leadership nowadays, the woke idiots in our 'intelligence" agencies and a conga line of civilians. That goes across both parties, btw. One thing you can bet, which is going to hurt the military and Pentagon brass the most, is the days of Republicans giving DoD a blank check is largely over. They've turned the tide against themselves with the last year or so of garbage. The fact they are losing virtual engagements, lost Afghanistan and really haven't done shit in years shows you they are more interested in a cushy retirement job with a think tank or defense contractor then winning wars. May be they should spend less time with their university commies, trying to earn their accolades and more time on their vocation, which is protecting our country, something they don't seem willing or able to do..

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 12:03 PM (VpIIl)

325 298 @JohnBasham 5m

BREAKING: Proof that @Ilhan Omar married her own brother to bypass US immigration rules? DNA test from congresswoman's cigarette butt purports to show 99.99% match to her second husband Ahmed Elmi!

https://tinyurl.com/yh68nrnq
Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 12:00 PM (cF8AT)

well duh!

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 13, 2021 12:03 PM (yrol0)

326
At what level should officers no longer be trusted? When is it no longer competence but politics that leads to promotion?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2021 12:03 PM (/U27+)

327 According to an AP report on Friday, the Biden administration has discussed mandating COVID-19 vaccines for interstate travel.

-from Outkick

Posted by: mr tmz at August 13, 2021 12:04 PM (m/Gc2)

328 The entire national security team should be fired into the Sun

***************

Nope, I absorb enough cosmic space shit as it is, thank you very much.

Posted by: The Sun at August 13, 2021 12:04 PM (hQVBP)

329 Yes, but the real enemy is white privilege and people who don't agree with the current government, right Milley?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 12:04 PM (VpIIl)

330 It's not that hard to zero out the radios and COMSEC equipment.

Then again, this is the new military.
Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 11:45 AM (oUI8H)

Do we want to give the Chicoms access to our coms hardware? If they ever have Walker II, that wouldn't be good.

Posted by: Fox2! at August 13, 2021 12:04 PM (qyH+l)

331 My MiL's mom is the warning, she went over to dementia in a *big* way.

Posted by: Cooper the Trooper at August 13, 2021 12:00 PM (XHhHI)

wait until they start asking to go home fifty times a day, and they are home. That one will give people a lot of reality.

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 12:04 PM (LtwdY)

332 I am looking forward to the Spin,

US LEAVES AFGHANISTAN AHEAD OF SCHEDULE!
Posted by: rd at August 13, 2021 12:02 PM (Z32m1)
........

OPIUM POPPY PRODUCTION UP, PRICE OF MORPHINE DOWN!

Posted by: wth at August 13, 2021 12:04 PM (v0R5T)

333 I learned at my daddy's knee never to trust officers.

Some things never go away.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 12:05 PM (oUI8H)

334 "The Taliban is the government that the people of Afghanistan want. Let them have it."\

Just like the USA wants Joe Biden!

Posted by: DaveA at August 13, 2021 12:05 PM (FhXTo)

335 However, we're going to be treated to pictures and video in the next few days of the taliban rolling into Kabul in US equipment. Shameful. Only the best and brightest get to wear stars on their shoulders.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (kTF2Z)

That's on Joe Stolin and his merry band of losers, not me.

Posted by: clutch at August 13, 2021 12:05 PM (9UmRs)

336 The thing isis, which do you want, to do saign or tehrn?

Nice job biden

Posted by: Y5 at August 13, 2021 12:05 PM (OxjVW)

337 Posted by: John "Order of the Blue Falcon" Kerry at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM

You asked for it.

https://youtu.be/k-4A2JkwpAY

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 13, 2021 12:05 PM (dkvcO)

338 314 Biden: Shades of the worst of Nixon, Ford, and Carter.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (ynpvh)
probably dumber than Carter though. Really, should anyone truly blame him for his policies?
Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (LtwdY)

The ENTIRE Dem Party is responsible, and the Repubs are co-conspirators. How else do you ALSO get legislative shit passed?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 13, 2021 12:05 PM (ynpvh)

339 Do we want to give the Chicoms access to our coms hardware?

Done!

Posted by: Democrats at August 13, 2021 12:05 PM (Xrfse)

340 Well, now, uh, Launcelot, Galahad, and I, wait until nightfall, and then leap out of the rabbit, taking the Taliban by surprise - not only by surprise, but totally unarmed!

Posted by: Sir Gen. Milley at August 13, 2021 12:05 PM (4I/2K)

341 BREAKING: Proof that @Ilhan Omar married her own brother to bypass US immigration rules? DNA test from congresswoman's cigarette butt purports to show 99.99% match to her second husband Ahmed Elmi!
https://tinyurl.com/yh68nrnq
Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 12:00 PM

Some people did some things.

Mistakes were made.

Old news that's been extensively litigated.

What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: MSM & DNC at August 13, 2021 12:05 PM (a3Q+t)

342 326
At what level should officers no longer be trusted? When is it no longer competence but politics that leads to promotion?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2021 12:03 PM (/U27+)

That seems to happen a lot for the US. But also seems to have gotten worse in recent years.

My brother graduated from Westpoint a couple years back, in helping him with some of his homework I saw a lot of their foreign policy stuff was ass-backwards or debunked pre-WW1 liberal internationalism.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 13, 2021 12:05 PM (z5Vrg)

343 212 Some Alzheimer's patients constantly demand ice cream.
Posted by: klaftern at August 13, 2021 11:48 AM (r4sI4)

my late MIL started to eat ice cream.every day
she'd also stash chocolates in her room, which drove my SIL crazy coz they'd get ants
she wasnt dx'd with dementia, she was just gettung a bit forgetful, when she hit her head in.a bad fall and never woke up.
She was a good person.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (oEn12)

344 Don't forget Cheney conspired to make sure Trump could not withdraw the troops in an orderly manner. Fuck you GOP.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (VpIIl)

345 not to crap on Trump, but it is pretty clear the military should have been his focus. Sure the troops loved him, but this did not come out of thin air.

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (LtwdY)

346 "the silver lining in this debacle is that the MSM is gonna have to denounce the Taliban as the bad guys. Posted by: REDACTED

Not really. They will focus on the mask/vax wars here and the threat of the latest variant and avoid talking about this disaster.

Posted by: Ripley at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (MxEKc)

347 as has been mentioned above, China won't have any problem dealing with the Taliban or getting things they want. They're very comfortable dealing with thugs who use brutality to stay in power, just look at their dealings with the Burmese government (now it's Myanmar) over the last 30 years. They won't care who they rape or kill as long as they deliver the goods, and the Taliban needs some revenue now that we've been kicked out and won't pay them off anymore. They'll get along with each other just fine.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (trdmm)

348 After doing what we needed to militarily, we should have said good luck with your country and tossed them a copy of the Federalist Papers on the way out the door. And don't make us come back.

Posted by: Mainah at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (Boy/L)

349 326
At what level should officers no longer be trusted?
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Colonel. Obviously.

Posted by: Lt Col Alex Vindman at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (sWM8x)

350 So, what's the over/under on Hollywood picking up the cause of a poor Afghani girl brutalized by the Taliban as evidence that we need to go back?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (LvTSG)

351 Nope, I absorb enough cosmic space shit as it is, thank you very much.
Posted by: The Sun

Try out and I'll prove once and for all where your precious 'global warming' comes from.

Posted by: El Sol at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (pbStR)

352 Holy Shit. I think he unloaded an entire clip on his ass.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mao_yat/status/
1426040442240577538

@mao_yat
thank you my Asian friend are punish bn thief

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (g5ZhJ)

353 https: //twitter.com/JennyCafarella/status/1425944795067846661

Astonishingly, the CIA is telling its people not to watch the news. I know how bad the intelligence agencies are, byt they still manage to amaze me.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (yMyMq)

354 Do we want to give the Chicoms access to our coms hardware? If they ever have Walker II, that wouldn't be good.
Posted by: F

You mean the way Obama gave the chico.drones and stealth via the Iranians and pakistanis?

Posted by: Y5 at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (OxjVW)

355 How many Made in China ICs are already in US military gear?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (BdhLm)

356 BREAKING: Proof that @Ilhan Omar married her own brother to bypass US immigration rules? DNA test from congresswoman's cigarette butt purports to show 99.99% match to her second husband Ahmed Elmi!
https://tinyurl.com/yh68nrnq
Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 12:00 PM

I believe that the Dems call this a "resume enhancer"

Posted by: In Exile at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (dPOAr)

357 327 According to an AP report on Friday, the Biden administration has discussed mandating COVID-19 vaccines for interstate travel.

-from Outkick

Posted by: mr tmz at August 13, 2021 12:04 PM (m/Gc2)

Constitutional, no doubt about it!

Posted by: Five SCOTUS justices - guess who we are! at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (AMIL/)

358 So they announced a withdrawal on 9/11/2021 and expected the Taliban to stay away until then. Brilliant plan.

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So, 9/11 is an historical day the USA got their butts kicked. And Biden picks 9/11 to signal the USA is going to run away with our tails between our legs, having accomplished little. That's some bang up optics there, you drooling imbecile.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (O+I8R)

359 At what level should officers no longer be trusted? When is it no longer competence but politics that leads to promotion?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2021 12:03 PM (/U27+)

anything over NCO.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (trdmm)

360 I learned at my daddy's knee never to trust officers.

Some things never go away.
Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 12:05 PM

Hey!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (m+jkK)

361 Somewhere Biden is aimlessly wandering in the bushes.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (VpIIl)

362 Well, don't trust officers' typing skills, anyway.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (m+jkK)

363 anything over NCO.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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*fistbump*

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (oUI8H)

364 So, what's the over/under on Hollywood picking up the cause of a poor Afghani girl brutalized by the Taliban as evidence that we need to go back?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (LvTSG)

There has to be another Afghani girl with striking eyes.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (cSyAR)

365 has been mentioned above, China won't have any problem dealing with the Taliban or getting things they want. They're very comfortable dealing with thugs who use brutality to stay in power, just look at thPakistanis?

s with the Burmese government (now it's Myanmar) over the last 30 years. They won't care who they rape or kill as long as they deliver the goods, and the Taliban needs some revenue now that we've been kicked out and won't pay them off anymore. They'll get along with each other just fine.
Posted by: Tom Servo at

Now do the soviets

Posted by: Y5 at August 13, 2021 12:08 PM (OxjVW)

366 Its the abandoned US weaponry that's the issue here. This would have happened if the military had obeyed Trump and left Afghanistan when he ordered them to. But the way they are leaving is clearly wrong if they're abandoning weapons and munitions for the bad guys to grab.

The way the Obama administration was, I wonder if that wasn't on purpose.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 13, 2021 12:08 PM (KZzsI)

367 At what level should officers no longer be trusted? When is it no longer competence but politics that leads to promotion?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2021 12:03 PM (/U27+)

O-6

Posted by: BignJames at August 13, 2021 12:08 PM (AwYPR)

368 Biden: Shades of the worst of Nixon, Ford, and Carter.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 13, 2021 11:58 AM (ynpvh)
probably dumber than Carter though. Really, should anyone truly blame him for his policies?
Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 12:01 PM (LtwdY)

Really makes me wonder just who is pulling the strings at this point. I know a lot thought this was Obama 2.0, but I really have to wonder. This all seems inept, even for him. I think Harris was all him, and a concession. But Biden? Not so much. I'm thinking Pelosi, Schumer and whoever they're working for needed a useless puppet to demoralize us. Now things are spinning out of control. Unless of course the whole idea is to turn all the things into a fustercluck, in which case, well done.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 13, 2021 12:08 PM (wAnMi)

369 Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (oEn12)

sorry to hear that, that is a sad tale. To be honest, Alzheimers is easy to spot once you really know it. One thing families do is freak out and think is is catching. To be fair, if you know it, it is the easiest thing to spot imaginable, it is not a 50-50 prospect.

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 12:08 PM (LtwdY)

370 We really want to send you to OCS. Yeah, no thanks.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 12:08 PM (VpIIl)

371 I hope the families of every kid who died when the Pentagon pigs and their political enablers refused to allow Trump to pull out of Afghanistan finds a politician or Pentagon pig and delivers him or her true justice that would make the Taliban blush.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 13, 2021 12:09 PM (13dPG)

372 So, what's the over/under on Hollywood picking up the cause of a poor Afghani girl brutalized by the Taliban as evidence that we need to go back?

Have we really left, though, or is it an Obama deal where we "left" Iraq but still have boots on the ground to this day?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 13, 2021 12:09 PM (KZzsI)

373 Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (trdmm)

Yup. The Chinese will get along just fine with the Taliban and the Taliban understand that the Chinese have no problems making people disappear into camps.

Posted by: CDR M (Retired) at August 13, 2021 12:09 PM (JSetw)

374 if your family member goes up to a random stranger and insists he is a friend from way back, that is a very bad sign.

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 12:09 PM (LtwdY)

375 Biden probably thinks it is 1975

Posted by: steevy at August 13, 2021 12:09 PM (uUDKV)

376 Are the military going to be deployed to state lines so we can show our papers? I really do want them to try this. We are at a breaking point. Not an imaginative one, but as real as real can get breaking point. Let's get it out in the open and let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 13, 2021 12:09 PM (O+I8R)

377 What is not to like about the Taliban? They mandate body coverings, they forbid public gatherings, theyre ignorant of science....

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 13, 2021 12:10 PM (J8+9a)

378 @joshdcaplan 2m

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A military base in Washington has been placed on lockdown after a report that an armed person was spotted on the base.

Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 12:10 PM (cF8AT)

379 Have we really left, though, or is it an Obama deal where we "left" Iraq but still have boots on the ground to this day?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Ummm, we do still have troops in Iraq.

Al Asad airbase for one.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 12:10 PM (oUI8H)

380 you know, i've wondered about this. WHAT fucking political optics are GOOD about leaving on the same fucking day, 20 years after their attack?

anyone, fucking anyone have a thought on that? beuller? beuller?
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (8D42x)

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Picking 9/11 is a good way to demoralize any patriotic American. I know I was.

Posted by: rd at August 13, 2021 12:10 PM (Z32m1)

381 chicoms won't have any issues dealing with the Taliban. They share the same hatred for anyone who opposes them and a love of graft

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 12:10 PM (VpIIl)

382 Ummm, we do still have troops in Iraq.

...that's what I said.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 13, 2021 12:10 PM (KZzsI)

383 Somewhere Biden is aimlessly wandering in the bushes.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (VpIIl)
.......

or tooling down the freeway in his eighteen wheeler.

Posted by: wth at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (v0R5T)

384 378 @joshdcaplan 2m

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A military base in Washington has been placed on lockdown after a report that an armed person was spotted on the base.
Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 12:10 PM (cF8AT)

=========

"He was wearing a noted sign of white supremacists. On a black field with white lettering, MP."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (LvTSG)

385
Now do the soviets
Posted by: Y5 at August 13, 2021 12:08 PM (OxjVW)

Russia always got stuck there because of rival powers, Britain for The Great Game or us during the Cold War.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (z5Vrg)

386 Now things are spinning out of control. Unless of course the whole idea is to turn all the things into a fustercluck, in which case, well done.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 13, 2021 12:08 PM (wAnMi)

Two words:

Cloward-Piven

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (AiZBA)

387 A military base in Washington has been placed on lockdown after a report that an armed person was spotted on the base.

************

This is the army I should be afraid of?

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (hQVBP)

388 Taliban? Is that a new ice cream flavor?

Posted by: President Dementia at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (yL+Ld)

389 We really want to send you to OCS. Yeah, no thanks.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 12:08 PM

So said the RMBS Dad many years ago.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (m+jkK)

390 290 Last one I'll suggest -- Desperate People

LOL. Next one in the play list I found.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (AHq56)

391 If history is any guide, Biden should have a Nobel Peace Prize by year's end.

Bloodstained hands is how Obama earned his

Posted by: Mrm88 at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (jIL4c)

392 WASHINGTON (AP) -- A military base in Washington has been placed on lockdown after a report that an armed person was spotted on the base.
Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 12:10 PM (cF8AT)

Is he carrying a Fully Automatic Assault Umbrella?

(Yes, I will feel bad if anyone does get hurt.)

Posted by: rd at August 13, 2021 12:12 PM (Z32m1)

393 Somewhere Biden is aimlessly wandering in the bushes.

--

He's waiting for Storytime. It's "Oh, the Places You'll Go" day!

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 13, 2021 12:12 PM (O+I8R)

394 We can't have armed men walking around Army bases!

Posted by: steevy at August 13, 2021 12:12 PM (uUDKV)

395 as has been mentioned above, China won't have any problem dealing with the Taliban or getting things they want. They're very comfortable dealing with thugs who use brutality to stay in power, just look at their dealings with the Burmese government (now it's Myanmar) over the last 30 years. They won't care who they rape or kill as long as they deliver the goods, and the Taliban needs some revenue now that we've been kicked out and won't pay them off anymore. They'll get along with each other just fine.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (trdmm)

If the Taliban does become uncooperative, China can go chemical and biological warfare. Use of chem/bio agents will become known to the West before long, but Chairman Xi will simply laugh heartily when Joe establishes red lines and threatens severe international diplomatic scoldings.

Posted by: Gref at August 13, 2021 12:12 PM (AMIL/)

396 Biden probably thinks it is 1975

Or be convinced of it. A reporter could easily frame a question to put him back in another time. "Sir, shouldn't President Nixon be evacuating Saigon right now? What would you do?"

Posted by: t-bird at August 13, 2021 12:13 PM (ELgVT)

397 Now do the soviets
Posted by: Y5 at August 13, 2021 12:08 PM (OxjVW)

The Soviets were as stupid as our international leftists are. They actually thought they could go in and make a communist paradise of the place, plus they wanted to set up military installations to enable them to make a move on the middle eastern oilfields. (they thought) China doesn't have any need to invade, they just want some of the shit that can be found in the mountains there. You've got to remember that China is completely free from even the faintest bits of morality or decency, which makes a lot of deals quite easy for them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2021 12:13 PM (trdmm)

398 Old Hotness: Black Hawk Down
New Hotness: Black Hawk Surrendered - Kabul Edition

In other news...Papers Please.

You're doing a heckuva a job Double Fudge.

Posted by: LostInSpace at August 13, 2021 12:13 PM (ESLBo)

399 What is not to like about the Taliban? They mandate body coverings, they forbid public gatherings, theyre ignorant of science....
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 13, 2021 12:10 PM (J8+9a)

Pull down statues, insist you agree with them about everything.........

Posted by: ... at August 13, 2021 12:13 PM (kmxth)

400 324 Marcus T.

There are certain hard truths that history teaches us about military affairs among other things. Unfortunately, a military of a country is a reflection of society and once that society goes sour, then the military will reflect it just like every other institution.

That is essentially why only a sharp sudden shock can cause the reforms needed because virtually every institution in a sick society has to be reformed down to the local code enforcement officer.

Posted by: whig at August 13, 2021 12:13 PM (pO7gM)

401 We can't have armed men walking around Army bases!
Posted by: steevy at August 13, 2021 12:12 PM

And no fighting in the War Room!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 13, 2021 12:13 PM (m+jkK)

402 Cloward-Piven
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (AiZBA)

I small issue with CP is they assume that the adults will come fix the problem. At some point the adults will let them stew in their own shit.

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 13, 2021 12:13 PM (yrol0)

403 What will be the secret code for the president has wandered off and we don't know where he is?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 13, 2021 12:13 PM (cSyAR)

404 At what level should officers no longer be trusted? When is it no longer competence but politics that leads to promotion?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2021 12:03 PM (/U27+)

O-6
Posted by: BignJames at August 13, 2021 12:08 PM (AwYPR)

With one naval dentist exception.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 13, 2021 12:14 PM (4I/2K)

405 383 Somewhere Biden is aimlessly wandering in the bushes.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (VpIIl)
.......
or tooling down the freeway in his eighteen wheeler.
Posted by: wth at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (v0R5T)

Having an ice cream with Corn Pop.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 13, 2021 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

406 387 A military base in Washington has been placed on lockdown after a report that an armed person was spotted on the base.

************
This is the army I should be afraid of?
Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (hQVBP)
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Maybe he has F-15s (or whatever) and nukes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 13, 2021 12:14 PM (YqDXo)

407 I'm so glad I resigned my commission back in '86.

Posted by: Archer at August 13, 2021 12:14 PM (gmo/4)

408 Regarding leaving Afghanistan on 9/11/21, I suspect it was designed to be a "mission accomplished" moment. They probably thought that they were going to leave behind a stable country and claim "victory", a bookend for the 9/11 attack.

They're fools who are only good at defeating their nominal republican opposition.

Posted by: Revenant at August 13, 2021 12:14 PM (ydlAE)

409 What will be the secret code for the president has wandered off and we don't know where he is?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 13, 2021 12:13 PM (cSyAR)

Walkabout.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (AiZBA)

410 405 383 Somewhere Biden is aimlessly wandering in the bushes.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (VpIIl)
.......
or tooling down the freeway in his eighteen wheeler.
Posted by: wth at August 13, 2021 12:11 PM (v0R5T)

Having an ice cream with Corn Pop.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 13, 2021 12:14 PM (ynpvh)
--------------------

Having kids rub his legs while he sniffs their hair.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (YqDXo)

411 Astonishingly, the CIA is telling its people not to watch the news. I know how bad the intelligence agencies are, byt they still manage to amaze me.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (yMyMq)

So basically, the death of hundreds or thousands of people might be triggering to your delicate psyche, so it's best to ignore everything unless you really feel it's a need to know thing. If so, proceed with caution.

Got it. Top. Men.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (wAnMi)

412 Glad we spent all those years and millions (billions?) of dollars "training" the Afghan army.

Heckuva job, Deep State.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (Bmy3R)

413 O
M
G!

@USEmbassyKabul Aug 9

This #PeaceMonday, we want to hear from you. What do you wish to tell the negotiating parties in Doha about your hopes for a political settlement? #PeaceForAfghanistan

But wait...they have a video to go with it!

https://tinyurl.com/yjcl9s27

Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (cF8AT)

414 Soviets went into Afghanistan for a direct route to Iran's oil. ??

Posted by: Braenyard at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (lkl+P)

415 Nood

Posted by: Furious George at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (9vQJW)

416 Would it be shocking to learn Biden has a tracking device around his ankle?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (cSyAR)

417 81 I'll take the opportunity to use this collapse of the US-propped up Afghan government to beat the Democrats over the head politically with...

But in truth, we all knew this was going to happen as soon as we pulled out. Trump wanted to do it, and the same damn thing would have happened.

Posted by: Defenestratus at August 13, 2021 11:33 AM (jL5iB)
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This is a Neocon & Neoliberal Internationalist loss, regardless of who's at the helm when the pullout occurs. Biden's a Neoliberal Internationalist, so it's his loss, along with GWB's and Obama's.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (nLvby)

418 409 What will be the secret code for the president has wandered off and we don't know where he is?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 13, 2021 12:13 PM (cSyAR)

Walkabout.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (AiZBA)
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Out: the bear is on the prowl.
In: the turkey is out gobbling

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 13, 2021 12:16 PM (YqDXo)

419 I learned at my daddy's knee never to trust officers.

Some things never go away.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 13, 2021 12:05 PM (oUI8H)

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Well, my late daddy was an AF officer and pilot and one of the finest men to ever walk this earth. He got out precisely because of the political weasels among his fellow officers.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 13, 2021 12:16 PM (ptqGC)

420 Nood Chinese Coronavirus

Posted by: rd at August 13, 2021 12:16 PM (Z32m1)

421 The Afhganis aren't all that different from Tajikistan (much more stably controlled by Russia). Afghanistan is just in a spot that encourages major powers to force a quagmire there.

Russia might do that to China. But if we all(including Russia) stopped mucking around in there, China wouldn't have too much difficultly controlling it.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 13, 2021 12:16 PM (z5Vrg)

422 The general would give him the football but not his pistol.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 13, 2021 12:16 PM (oy1++)

423 That's some bang up optics there, you drooling imbecile.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 13, 2021 12:07 PM (O+I8R)

Biden didn't choose it. The ones who did are laughing at us. They think it's beyond hilarious, trust me.

Posted by: ... at August 13, 2021 12:17 PM (kmxth)

424 397 Tom, the Chinese are just as incompetent as the US, simply in a different way. Saving face is a foremost value in a hierarchy as is requiring 'respect' and massive corruption is a given.

Let the Chinese have Afghanistan and they will be dealing with opium, hostages, along with a disintegrating infrastructure.

Posted by: whig at August 13, 2021 12:17 PM (pO7gM)

425 A reporter could easily frame a question to put him back in another time. "Sir, shouldn't President Nixon be evacuating Saigon right now? What would you do?"

I think his brain is wired later than that, but they could pull something with Bush, I am certain. "What do you think about Bush's withdrawal from Afghanistan? How would you do it differently?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 13, 2021 12:17 PM (KZzsI)

426 What will be the secret code for the president has wandered off and we don't know where he is?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 13, 2021 12:13 PM (cSyAR)
...........

Don'tWorryHisButt'sBeenWiped

Posted by: wth at August 13, 2021 12:17 PM (v0R5T)

427 @USEmbassyKabul Aug 9

This #PeaceMonday, we want to hear from you. What do you wish to tell the negotiating parties in Doha about your hopes for a political settlement? #PeaceForAfghanistan

But wait...they have a video to go with it!

https://tinyurl.com/yjcl9s27

Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (cF8AT)
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Hello, Mr. Rogers, US Embassy personnel need help transitioning to adulthood. Mr. Rogers to the red phone, please.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 13, 2021 12:18 PM (lkl+P)

428 383 Somewhere Biden is aimlessly wandering in the bushes.
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It really does appear he's deteriorating. Bongino, who claims Secret Service sources, says Puddin works four hours max on a good day. I can believe that.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 13, 2021 12:18 PM (sWM8x)

429 Whig,

I don't necessarily agree. But what I will say is that largely the NCO's and troopers don't reflect the ethos of most of their leadership. The GO's level and field grades are mostly a bunch of incompetent idiots more concerned with rising in the ranks and pleasing their liberal academia friends then being competent at warfighting. DoD is even worse and it's been overrun by people's personal politics. Their is no focus on the mission of warfighting. It's all about social control and making sure your pet projects get funded. The entire thing is sickening. My only hope is that people start to make them own disasters like this, and the GOP grows a set of balls and starts cutting their funding until they focus on the fucking job.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 12:18 PM (VpIIl)

430 414 Soviets went into Afghanistan for a direct route to Iran's oil. ??
Posted by: Braenyard at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (lkl+P)

pretty much, something they'd been thinking about since WW2. (and as referenced, back under the Czars they wanted access to India) But now China dnd Iran are already buddy-buddy, so China has no need to try and get Iran's oil by force.

The Iranians are behind most of the Taliban in western Afghanistan, btw. They're really just Iranian proxy forces, like Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2021 12:18 PM (trdmm)

431 Was it Afghanistan where Trump ordered our military to draw down troops -- and they lied to him about doing it while not following his orders?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 13, 2021 12:18 PM (bDqIh)

432 352
@mao_yat
thank you my Asian friend are punish bn thief
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (g5ZhJ)
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Thank you my friend are justice, bn steal pencil shoe date incorrect species

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 13, 2021 12:18 PM (nLvby)

433 Meant disagree, whig...

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2021 12:19 PM (VpIIl)

434 Let it fall. Why spend any more American blood or treasure?

Posted by: Mookie at August 13, 2021 12:20 PM (u+Y3T)

435 We went into A-stan all because the "going to Cuber" paradigm failed (and should never have occurred). Utterly nuts. This is the Byzantium empire as farce.

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 13, 2021 12:20 PM (KAi1n)

436 Someday a frail, confused, white haired man will wander up to an ice cream stand and demand a cone.
But he will have no money or identification.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 13, 2021 12:21 PM (cSyAR)

437 you know, i've wondered about this. WHAT fucking political optics are GOOD about leaving on the same fucking day, 20 years after their attack?

anyone, fucking anyone have a thought on that? beuller? beuller?
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 13, 2021 11:29 AM (8D42x)

=====================
Picking 9/11 is a good way to demoralize any patriotic American. I know I was.
Posted by: rd at August 13, 2021 12:10 PM (Z32m1)

The left projects. They also fantasize. No doubt, they though that by avoiding anything Orange Man had done, and by doing it their way on their timeline, it was automatically a win. They also thought they'd be sending some sort of message about peace and love in our lifetime by undoing all the bad things that happened since that horrific day, and 9/11 is coincidentally the date they began losing their collective shit. What they've accomplished is exactly the opposite of what Trump would have done, yet they projected exactly what they've done on him. Brilliant. Psychologists will be studying this for decades to come, if there are any.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 13, 2021 12:21 PM (wAnMi)

438 411 Astonishingly, the CIA is telling its people not to watch the news. I know how bad the intelligence agencies are, byt they still manage to amaze me.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 13, 2021 12:06 PM (yMyMq)

So basically, the death of hundreds or thousands of people might be triggering to your delicate psyche, so it's best to ignore everything unless you really feel it's a need to know thing. If so, proceed with caution.

Got it. Top. Men.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 13, 2021 12:15 PM (wAnMi)
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The amazing thing is that we ever find anyone in these countries who is stupid enough to work for us.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 13, 2021 12:22 PM (YqDXo)

439 >>>Let the Chinese have Afghanistan and they will be dealing with opium, hostages, along with a disintegrating infrastructure.

Posted by: whig at August 13, 2021 12:17 PM (pO7gM)
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That's the thing with the Hueygers. China wants East Turkestan. Wicked map they want the Eastern Hemisphere.... and revenge on the west

Posted by: Braenyard at August 13, 2021 12:22 PM (lkl+P)

440 Economic confidence cratering, allied capitol falling, horndog VP...better get ready for disco to make a comeback

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 13, 2021 12:24 PM (J8+9a)

441 iirc We were in a holding pattern in Afghanistan until OBAMA became president. OBAMA is the man that turned focus on Afghanistan.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 13, 2021 12:25 PM (lkl+P)

442 Marcus T,
Depends on which part of the military that you are discussing. There is still some in the lower ranks that are capable, just as some cops are capable in bad urban police departments. But, eventually, the good will leave for a variety of reasons and the bad will take over. Even the competent apolitical types simply cannot do their jobs over time as Maoism becomes the primary focus rather than tasks.

There is a reason that Mao was forced by the PLA to kill his own Cultural Revolution and that was because the people used to fighting and killing in the Revolution still had control over the military and they had the power to issue Mao an ultimatum, either the Cultural Revolution goes bye bye or Mao would. Right now, I do not see the hardened fighters in the upper uniformed military ranks necessary to force the Maoists in the Govt in intel, DOJ, DHS, and civilian political/military leadership to take a coup seriously.

Posted by: whig at August 13, 2021 12:33 PM (pO7gM)

443 438 Deplorable Jay Guevara,
There is always a fraction of humanity even in backward countries that yearn for what can be called the Enlightenment. The problem is that roughly the same number would gladly put others to the sword in order to have power over others. The remaining souls, simply want to live their life and will adopt whatever is necessary to survive.

The people in a society that adopt the Enlightenment values are always at risk from the sociopaths wanting power and the mass of the general population that will accept whoever wins the power game.

Posted by: whig at August 13, 2021 12:40 PM (pO7gM)

444 8 I will again note the irony that if the Pentagon had simply followed orders, this would be Trump's mess, not Biden's.

Trump can sit on the sidelines and talk big about his plan would have been so much better, and the left won't be able to counter with much of anything other than Rhees.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 13, 2021 11:24 AM (LvTSG)

I thought at the time that by undermining and disobeying Trump, the NatSec leaders were trying to deny Trump a political victory of getting us out of a war that everybody hated. Now I have no idea what they were thinking.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at August 13, 2021 12:42 PM (0V/8D)

445 The amazing thing is that we ever find anyone in these countries who is stupid enough to work for us.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 13, 2021 12:22 PM

Sincerity. Once you can fake that, you've got it made.

Posted by: CIA at August 13, 2021 12:44 PM (a3Q+t)

446 Also I don't see the point in blaming Milley and running him off. It's not like he'd be replaced by someone more competent and less woke.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at August 13, 2021 12:44 PM (0V/8D)

447 154
Now, before I get flamed for defending these people, remember that I'm absolutely certain they're going to start another pointless forever-war in short order, and I'll blame that completely on them.

But one way or another, we had to be done with this shit. It's been over for a long time, except for the pretending.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sure. But we could at least have done so with a thin veneer of pretend competency. This is amazing in it's futility.

Posted by: deadrody at August 13, 2021 01:03 PM (/jrmI)

448 Did Hillary plan the retreat/withdrawl? #benghazi

Posted by: jeff at August 13, 2021 01:07 PM (Rviza)

449 "And Kabul will fall within days"

Saying this implies they don't want the Taliban back, and it doesn't feel like that's the case.

Posted by: Rick C at August 13, 2021 01:11 PM (eqaFC)

450 "Biden '75: Kabul Will Fall In Days, as Taliban Terrorists, Carrying Abandoned US Weaponry, Set For Final Take-Back of the Country"

Funny. Joe Biden was already a Dem Senator for two years (since 1973) when Saigon fell due to his Democrat policy.

Saigon and Kabul: perfect bookends for a failed Biden.

Posted by: Dan at August 13, 2021 01:52 PM (+NG5U)

451 Also I don't see the point in blaming Milley and running him off. It's not like he'd be replaced by someone more competent and less woke.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at August 13, 2021 12:44 PM (0V/8D)

Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 13, 2021 01:56 PM (eoQWY)

452 "And Kabul will fall within days -- not the month Biden's hacks had previously claimed.'

We planned on failing, but we were so successful at failing it happened sooner. You might call this a win. Uncertainty is always a concern in the fog of war during retreat and we avoided that.

Posted by: BSKB at August 13, 2021 02:20 PM (yh8/W)

453 And hardly an Afghan in sight taking up arms to defend against it.

Screw 'em. There's no liberating a country that has no desire to be free.

Posted by: Sjg at August 13, 2021 02:47 PM (gDSJf)

454 Robert Gates stated years ago: Biden has "been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades."

Thanks Never Trumpers.

Posted by: Java Joe at August 13, 2021 04:18 PM (2p/1y)

455 Reuben sandwhich > Rueben Feffer > Bob Rubin > Jennifer Rubin.

Posted by: Quint at August 13, 2021 05:23 PM (LtwdY)

456 I don't care that the Afghanistan government will fall. That was bound to happen whenever we left since the only thing that kept the government in power was U.S. Troops. The Afghan government never had legitimacy in the eyes of the Afghan people. I'm just glad we're finally leaving.

Posted by: John galt at August 13, 2021 05:41 PM (kB+Uw)

457 I don't care about the Afghani's the entire Idea of civilization and nation building was a fools (Bush Jr) errand.
This should have happened when Bin Laden got killed.
It has cost blood and treasure, killed American's and other nations, maimed and mentally ill Veterans.
The democrats have wanted to turn the War on Terror into another Vietnam since 9/12 the day after 9/11.
Get everyone out and next time simply bomb the place, it should be easy it's all registered for strikes by now.

Do not blame to Veterans or the troops.

Posted by: obsidian at August 14, 2021 09:38 AM (ghIo8)

458 Remember this when some politician decides we need a war to rebuild a nation after we destroy it.

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