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Saturday Evening Movie Thread 07-24-2021 [Hosted By: Moviegique]

THE AFRICAN QUEEN

The most depressing thing, for me, about seeing John Huston's classic film The African Queen was not coming out of the theater to see an add for Disney's Jungle Cruise, but watching the movie and recalling a scene I'd just seen extracted from the new Marvel Black Widow movie. Allow me to elaborate: In 2015's Age Of Ultron, there was one of those rare moments of a thing called "character development" where Black Widow tearfully confesses that part of her training involved a full hysterectomy—a little reminder that the besides being a plot-armored quasi-super-hero, she's also a human being.

This little moment was controversialized by the perverse childless weirdos who dominate "journalism" and who cannot ever allow the possibility that a woman might find considerable meaning and value in fulfilling a woman's biological role, i.e., having children. And so, in the new movie, one of the (now apparently dime-a-dozen) Black Widows recalls the same incident as a flippant joke.

The African Queen is a love story, first and foremost. It's also an action-adventure-war picture, because Hollywood used to adore that sort of broad crowd-pleaser. The action-adventure stuff is what happens in the movie, but it's about love. To wit, old maid missionary Rose Sayer (Katharine Hepburn), upright and uptight but genuinely strong of character, finds herself fleeing German advances in Africa at the dawn of WWI with the low-class, crass and vulgar Charlie Allnut (Humphrey Bogart), and the two strengthen each other through a burgeoning affection and shared purpose—which is of course a sort of last ditch, long-shot heroic gesture against the Hun. Talk about "they couldn't make that today".



african queen 01.jpg
Chock full of fabulous blocking, of course.

Having grown up with late-era Katharine Hepburn, I was not a fan, and it wasn't until years later when I saw things like Bringing Up Baby (where she's basically a manic pixie dream girl) and The Philadelphia Story where I began to realize that she could genuinely act—in a role that didn't have her as an uptight New England patrician. And I suspect it may have been this role that guided her career into that mold because she's so, so good at it. Yet the beauty of this part is her transformation: She knows what's right and she is steadfast, but she also has feelings which occasionally, fleetingly break through to the surface; when she "warms up", as it were, she allows herself more emotion, but if anything is more determined and uncompromising.

On the flipside we have Hobo Bogart, who is also the sort of actor you could easily forget could actually act because he was so good at the hard-boiled detective thing. But here he's not suave or cool or heroic, rather a kind of unprincipled drunk living a life of ease. (I actually had some concern about The Flower seeing him in this condition.) This movie is, essentially, a buddy comedy/road movie, and our principles are the oddest couple.

They're both way too old for their roles, of course—Hepburn was mid-40s, Bogie was mid-50s—but it doesn't much matter. Nor does the fact that they're supposed be English. (Well, in the book Charlie is cockney, but for the movie they switched that to Canadian.) The effects, largely consisting of actually being in Africa and rolling the cameras, are quite good, with the exception of some of the rear projection shots where the two stars are not actually on the boat because, holy cow, can you imagine sending your middle-aged superstars to shoot the rapids?



african queen 02.jpg
Most of the stills and outtakes from this movie are pix of Hepburn and Bogart sitting in a boat—because most of the movie is about Hepburn and Bogart sitting in a boat.

Two things, perhaps surprisingly, didn't work too well for me. I'm a fan of technicolor but I don't like the palette used here. It feels a little degraded, like—well, like Kodacolor always seemed to get after about six months. (Seriously, movies shot in the '70s—the prints would get super grungy looking by the second run, beyond normal wear and tear.)

The other thing I didn't care for, on the whole, was Allan Gray's score. It has some very good moments, but I noticed it a lot and it seemed sort of jarring or misplaced. There's a scene early on which felt positively riff-able: Bogie and Hepburn are getting on the boat and there's a pretty grim strain playing. I could just hear Tom Servo saying "Thrill! To the getting-on-the-boat-scene!" I mean, I got that it was kind of a big deal because Hepburn's leaving her home and the Germans are probably menacing some people somewhere, but there's nothing at the moment that justifies it. I guess I felt, at a lot of points, like the music wasn't well integrated. Sometimes it just be that way.

Minor nitpicks, however. This really is a movie for all ages: Their physical journey is entertaining, both fun and funny, with director John Huston never missing a chance to have something exciting happen; and each event along the way, reveals their emotional journey, which is dramatic and moving.



african queen 03.jpg
The palette's not QUITE this washed out, but it felt that way sometimes. Jungle heat?

Unlike most of the great old directors, Huston didn't have a short "golden" age where he produced masterpieces. Obviously The Maltese Falcon (his first film!), Key Largo and Treasure of the Sierra Madre were classic '40s flicks, but in the '50s he had this movie and both Moby Dick and Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison; in the '60s, Night of the Iguana; in the '70s, The Man Who Would Be King, and even into the '80s, The Dead, Prizzi's Honor and Under The Volcano (which I hated—but it's not always about me).

African Queen would not even be nominated for best picture (which went to the over-rated An American In Paris), and John Huston would lose both directing and writing awards to A Place in the Sun (which won six of its nine nominations). For his only Oscar, Bogie would beat out Frederic March (Death of a Salesman), Marlon Brando (A Streetcar Named Desire) and Montgomery Clift (A Place in the Sun)—all heavyweight dramatic roles, making me suspect that the Academy was feeling sheepish about not having awarded him sooner. Hepburn would lose out to Vivien Leigh (Streetcar) and would have to console herself with her 1933 Oscar (Morning Glory) and her three subsequent wins (Guess Who's Coming To Dinner, The Lion In Winter, On Golden Pond) and seven other nominations. This may be my favorite role of hers, however.

As I suspected, the Boy loved it. The Flower did have some issues with Hobo Bogart, but she also loved it.



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Bogart would end his career with three of his strongest performances: The Caine Mutiny, The Harder They Fall, and Sabrina.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:00 PM




Comments

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1 Movies!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2021 07:01 PM (kTF2Z)

2 I'll fetch the otters.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2021 07:01 PM (kTF2Z)

3 Get the popcorn

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:01 PM (Cxk7w)

4 Otters called.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2021 07:01 PM (kTF2Z)

5 THE AFRICAN QUEEN

In many ways, this, too, is the story of Obama.

Sorry, could not resist.

On a movie topic, can you help me appreciate Humphrey Bogart? For some reason he never quite seems real to me in any movie, even one I sorta enjoy. He's like a one man disruptor of my suspension of disbelief. Is there a cure for that?

Posted by: Splunge at July 24, 2021 07:02 PM (S7/a+)

6 Good flick, about the only Kate H. I like. The insect attack scene always gives me the heebee geebees.

Posted by: lizabth at July 24, 2021 07:03 PM (L3Rsz)

7 "Peterloo" (201 Finally found this gem after searching for a couple years. Fine historical drama about the 1819 populist uprising in Manchester. Intricate multi-faceted political story, beautifully set, photographed, cast, costumed and acted. One of the very best movies I've seen recently. History of elite hatred of common citizens speaks volumes to us in our Current Year.

"The Last Witness" (201 British government hides the truth of the Katyn atrocity. Astonishing story. But first: watch the must-see movie "Katyn" (2007).

"Zabawa, Zabawa" (201 OK juicer flick. Three talented women brought low by drink. Veteran actress Agata Kulesza is always easy on the eyes, even in boozer-wreck makeup.

"Koxa" (2017) Here's what happens when you get high on your own supply. Turkish immigrants in Germany, on the dole and dealing toot, contemptuous of their ridiculously lenient host country, treat native whites as chumps and saps.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 24, 2021 07:05 PM (qpX6U)

8 ||On a movie topic, can you help me appreciate Humphrey Bogart? For some reason he never quite seems real to me in any movie, even one I sorta enjoy. He's like a one man disruptor of my suspension of disbelief. Is there a cure for that?||

You know, I don't, really, other than, "I'm going to decide not to let this person distract me."

I have to do that with Meryl Streep, and I sorta can. But I have yet to be able to do it with Martin Scorcese.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:05 PM (dhFCT)

9 AQ is a fine movie. They couldn't make it nowadays.

Posted by: f'd at July 24, 2021 07:06 PM (Tnijr)

10 The NOVAMOME was outstanding.

Delicious food, great weather with a comfortable cloud cover, nice breeze
What did I do to deserve such a delightful afternoon?

Posted by: Just Wondering at July 24, 2021 07:06 PM (jYQlA)

11 Have never been in the Hepburn camp. No rational reason, just never was a fan.

Posted by: Some Rat in the Swamp at July 24, 2021 07:07 PM (r1z5A)

12 "24 Hours To Live" (2017) Hitman actioner relentlessly stacks dumb onto stupid. In Act 3, Hobo With A Shotgun opens fire. Feels like a Frank Grillo movie, but he must have flubbed the audition.

"The Bad Seed" (201 Yeah it's a Lifetime movie, but the kid nails the Wednesday Addams role. Nanny Sarah Dugdale is so hawt that she actually ignites.

"Maria's Paradise" (2019) Maybe-true story about the weirdo Akerblom charismatic cult in 1927 Finland. In one scene, four inept riflemen struggle to hit a stationary rowboat at fifty yards, which is not typical of Finnish marksmanship.

"A Bluebird In My Heart" (201 Vengeance Belgidrama. Caution: Lola Le Lann is slippery when wet.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 24, 2021 07:07 PM (qpX6U)

13 I have three movies to pass on I watched this week and off the beaten path ( being foreign)
First Sophia Scholl the Final Days
https://youtu.be/baRvF6ZBK18
Found it from reading Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and looking up people mentioned.
Sophia and her brother as well a a couple others where anti war Christian activists, the bad part was its early 1943 and in Ulm Germany. The move is sanitized a bit in she was beaten and showed up in court with a broken leg( as told in book) but not in movie. Very good suitable for teenagers.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:08 PM (Cxk7w)

14 Bogie had a lot more range than he was given credit for. Hard boiled detective, sure, but also home invader, paranoid naval officer, etc.

He was great in "Treasure of Sierra Madre", and in one edited scene he was decapitated by Gold Hat with a machete. Censors said NO WAY. Bogart's reaction was: "What's wrong with showing a guy getting his head cut off?"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 24, 2021 07:08 PM (Dc2NZ)

15 Was fun watching their trials and tribulations as they traveled down the river but the whole blow up a German gun boat was a bit of a stretch.

Posted by: Javems at July 24, 2021 07:08 PM (uLD+u)

16 Here are some other recent reviews.

"The Hitman's Wife's Bodyguard"

https://moviegique.com/2021/07/the-hitmans-wifes-bodyguard/

Capsule: Salma Hayek is still glorious.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:08 PM (dhFCT)

17
Hepburn: Now what do we do?

Bogart: I bless the rains down in Africa.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2021 07:09 PM (kTF2Z)

18 So, Nicholas Cage, who is probably insane, has a new movie out called "Pig", about a man who searches for his kidnapped truffle pig.

Trailer:

https://youtu.be/-4nRpdONaAA

4 star review:

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/pig-2021

Maybe Cage is crazy like a fox.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2021 07:10 PM (Atzlh)

19 Just saw "The Cowboys" for the umpteenth time and loved it just as much. Jebediah Nightlinger is The Man.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 24, 2021 07:10 PM (Dc2NZ)

20 "Above Suspicion" (2019) Khaleesi winds up in Kentucky. Dragonless, she burns shit up using painted-on tight jeans and her purty mouth.

"Narrowsburg" (2019) Documentary shows how small-time actor Richard Castellano and his grifter wife scammed a town full of naive NY upstate hicks. Essential viewing for wiseguy movie buffs.

"Wallflower" (2019) In 2006, an anhedonic hippie-hating maniac parties with annoying proto-Woke Seattle rave kids, then slaughters six of them, which was problematic and totally not OK. True story I guess.

"Consequences" (201 Disgusting violent T-fueled Slovenian teen brutes turn gay.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 24, 2021 07:10 PM (qpX6U)

21 My favorite part of "Philadelphia Story" was Cary Grant winding up to punch Hepburn in the face, then pushing her backwards.

Hilarious stuff.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 24, 2021 07:10 PM (2SdPm)

22 "Out Of Death" (2021) No sir. I don't like it.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs, Guest-Hosted by Mr. Horse at July 24, 2021 07:11 PM (qpX6U)

23 The Red Letter Media boys have a new episode out on "Pig". I won't watch until I've seen the movie, but here it is:

https://tinyurl.com/t7rtwpev

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 24, 2021 07:11 PM (Dc2NZ)

24 Weird thing about Sophia Scholl. I saw a movie about her in the past five years, I'm sure of it, even though it was one of those movies I forgot to review. It was in a theater, and I have confirmed with The Boy that we saw it. And yet I can find no record of it.

Dinesh D'Souza mentions Scholl in his "Death of a Nation", too.

https://moviegique.com/2018/10/death-of-a-nation/

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:11 PM (dhFCT)

25 When this movie comes on, you think it's a home movie - the production values are, nonexistent. But it draws you in, the performances and the setting. An amazing flick.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 24, 2021 07:12 PM (oWBc3)

26 4 star review:
https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/pig-2021
Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2021 07:10 PM (Atzlh)


Really glad to see that Ebert's still working, 8 years after his death.

I will always have a soft spot for Nicholas Cage because of Raising Arizona. I have preserved my regard for him by not watching a single other movie he has ever made.

Posted by: Splunge at July 24, 2021 07:12 PM (S7/a+)

27 Ooooooooooooo, LEECHES!!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2021 07:12 PM (63Dwl)

28 2nd was a little afraid it was going to be violent but wasn't extreme as thought.
https://youtu.be/kKJqCYLoMq8
A woman in Berlin
A woman trying to survive being a Berlin resident in April 1945 after the Soviets take over the city. Take it it was a best selling book from a real diary in 1950s
Again German and Rusdian with English subtitles

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:12 PM (Cxk7w)

29 I'm no big fanbois of Humphrey Bogart but he happens to be in five of my top ten movies. He's the 40's Keanu Reeves to me.

Casablanca
African Queen
Sahara
Key Largo
Caine Mutiny

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 07:12 PM (2DOZq)

30 Hayek in AQ? I'd give it a look or two.

That particular Hepburn gave me the creeps.

Posted by: klaftern at July 24, 2021 07:12 PM (r4sI4)

31 I love The African Queen. It's Huston and Bogart's second best movie, after the greatest movie of all time, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.

Posted by: huerfano at July 24, 2021 07:13 PM (MzKgG)

32 I like the sound of the AQ's engine.
cachunka cachunk cachunka cachunk

Posted by: f'd at July 24, 2021 07:13 PM (Tnijr)

33 "Cursed Official" -- Russia blends "Liar, Liar" with "Drag Me To Hell" as an old woman curses a politician on his way up with an inability to give or receive bribes. Difficulty Level: It is literally impossible to do ANYTHING in Russia without bribes.

https://moviegique.com/2021/07/cursed-official/

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:13 PM (dhFCT)

34 while I love TAQ, the best picture that year was "Decision Before Dawn'

and the absolutely horrible "A Place in the Sun" was nominated for a bunch of awards

however, I loved Shelley Winters in it cause I always love Shelley Winters

but how she got nominated for Best Actress for her role in APITS is beyond me

the Oscars almost always get it wrong

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 07:13 PM (YK4Qh)

35 Just saw "The Cowboys" for the umpteenth time and loved it just as much. Jebediah Nightlinger is The Man.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 24, 2021 07:10 PM (Dc2NZ

Forgive me for the men I've killed and those I'm about to.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 07:13 PM (2DOZq)

36 Or was it cachunk cachunka?

Posted by: f'd at July 24, 2021 07:13 PM (Tnijr)

37 Comparing Bogart to Keanu is banable in my view. Jebus dude.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 24, 2021 07:14 PM (oWBc3)

38 A woman trying to survive being a Berlin resident in April 1945 after the Soviets take over the city. Take it it was a best selling book from a real diary in 1950s
Again German and Rusdian with English subtitles
Posted by: Skip


Sounds like some serious nightmare fuel.

Posted by: Some Rat in the Swamp at July 24, 2021 07:14 PM (r1z5A)

39 I like the sound of the AQ's engine.
cachunka cachunk cachunka cachunk
Posted by: f'd


YES!

Posted by: Some Rat in the Swamp at July 24, 2021 07:15 PM (r1z5A)

40 Eris--

"Pig" is definitely on my to-see list.

Bogie could act! But I'm not sure anyone wanted him to. Sorta like Jimmy Stewart, or even Henry Fonda. They had larger-than-life personas. A fascinating aspect of stardom that really goes against the grain of them that just want to act.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:16 PM (dhFCT)

41 THe AA in the early 50s were even srewier than ever. How does one explain Judy Holliday winning over Bette davis for All about eve, and Gloria Swanson for Sunset Blvd. Or Jose Ferrer winning best actor or Greatest Show on Earth winning best picture?

African Queen is excellent and set the standard for the later Hepburn Spinster roles.

Posted by: rcocean at July 24, 2021 07:16 PM (evE25)

42 Probably my two favorie bogie performances are Captain Queeg and Fred C. Dobbs. He was good at acting crazy.

Posted by: rcocean at July 24, 2021 07:17 PM (evE25)

43 Hmmm, I've been reminding myself for years that I need to re-watch Bogart in Sahara, which was a great war movie.

There's a British Army Desert Prison Movie called The Hill with Sean Connery that I need to re-watch as well.

Hell, I might as well hit a trifecta and just watch Zulu as well.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2021 07:17 PM (Atzlh)

44 Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:16 PM (dhFCT)

They let him act in the Caine Mutiny but yeah I see Bogie in all his movies.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 07:18 PM (2DOZq)

45 ||African Queen is excellent and set the standard for the later Hepburn Spinster roles.||

Yup.

Also, hey, RC! LTNS and all that.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:18 PM (dhFCT)

46 f'd

An old triple expansion engine, from the sound. Did no research on that call.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 24, 2021 07:18 PM (u82oZ)

47 Great movie. Love to see it in B and W.

Posted by: dartist at July 24, 2021 07:18 PM (+ya+t)

48 And almost forgot watched Seventeen Moments of Spring
https://youtu.be/WZhgXs_iFRs
It was a Russian novel and TV series as opposed to movie done in 1972
Follows a KGB plant in The SS in early spring 1945 so barely a month or two before end of WWII.
It does use as a plot a suppose attempt at cooperation between Himmer and minions and the US. But well acted and suspense at lots of turns. It's 12 episodes each just over a hour. But once started couldn't stop.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:18 PM (Cxk7w)

49 I love The African Queen. It has one of the all time great lines:
"I now pronounce you man and wife. Proceed with the execution!"

You could consider the boat as a character too. The way it lurks at the end, mortally wounded but still fighting

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 24, 2021 07:18 PM (0CPkz)

50 37 Comparing Bogart to Keanu is banable in my view. Jebus dude.
Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 24, 2021 07:14 PM (oWBc3)

I guess that makes John Goodman Sidney Greenstreet

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 07:18 PM (YK4Qh)

51 50 holy shit, I'm banned. what did I do ?
Posted by: jeet at July 24, 2021 07:18 PM (g741k)

only people who ask why they were banned get banned

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 07:20 PM (YK4Qh)

52 I guess that makes John Goodman Sidney Greenstreet
Posted by: REDACTED

Shut the ****up Donny!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 24, 2021 07:20 PM (6WCwE)

53 >>18 So, Nicholas Cage, who is probably insane, has a new movie out called "Pig", about a man who searches for his kidnapped truffle pig.

So, basically a remake of "Taken."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 24, 2021 07:20 PM (vuisn)

54 Again German and Rusdian with English subtitles
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:12 PM (Cxk7w)
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Is that the one where she has a couple of lovers she takes in order to survive? And, in the end, the book and author are repudiated, because those running Germany post WWII wouldn't allow the honor of German women to be sullied in such a fashion?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 24, 2021 07:21 PM (2SdPm)

55 And so, in the new movie, one of the (now apparently dime-a-dozen) Black Widows recalls the same incident as a flippant joke.

==

just watched Black Widow the other day - which widow treats it as a joke?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 24, 2021 07:22 PM (oEn12)

56 40 Bogie could act! But I'm not sure anyone wanted him to. Sorta like Jimmy Stewart, or even Henry Fonda. They had larger-than-life personas. A fascinating aspect of stardom that really goes against the grain of them that just want to act.
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:16 PM (dhFCT)


I completely get that about Bogart. Tons of talent, and people just wanted him to play Bogart.

Your point about Stewart is harder for me to get. Before he blew up, he did an amazing job in After The Thin Man. But even after he was huge...where are you seeing him not allowed to act? Even Harvey, which it's hard to imagine existing without him, seems like more of a vehicle than a straightjacket. Same for Vertigo, in my book. What am I missing?

Posted by: Splunge at July 24, 2021 07:22 PM (S7/a+)

57 Remake AQ with Crispin Glover and Sandra Bernhard. I'd buy that for a dollar.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 24, 2021 07:22 PM (qpX6U)

58 So, Nicholas Cage, who is probably insane, has a new movie out called "Pig", about a man who searches for his kidnapped truffle pig.

So, basically a remake of "Taken."
Posted by: Dr. Varno


Why didn't he just call Ace?

Posted by: Some Rat in the Swamp at July 24, 2021 07:22 PM (r1z5A)

59 53 >>18 So, Nicholas Cage, who is probably insane, has a new movie out called "Pig", about a man who searches for his kidnapped truffle pig.

So, basically a remake of "Taken."
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 24, 2021 07:20 PM (vuisn)


Oh, c'mon. She was at least sort of cute.

Posted by: Splunge at July 24, 2021 07:22 PM (S7/a+)

60 10 The NOVAMOME was outstanding.

Delicious food, great weather with a comfortable cloud cover, nice breeze and on the water

What did I do to deserve such a delightful afternoon?
Posted by: Just Wondering at July 24, 2021 07:06 PM (jYQlA)
---

We toldja!

Is it over so soon? Or are you avoiding the cops?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 24, 2021 07:23 PM (Dc2NZ)

61 Blake that's the one.

I love African Queen, had no idea of age of characters in book but they play their ages in movie well I think

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:23 PM (Cxk7w)

62 Strong women of 'principle' for various definitions thereof

Sister Sarah in Two Mules For
Mattie in True Grit (iirc, she became a spinster)

The Homesman (2014) Hillary Swank and Tommy Lee Jones -- really good movie imho

I'm working on others, brain-wise.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 24, 2021 07:23 PM (F0YaR)

63 Remake AQ with Crispin Glover and Sandra Bernhard. I'd buy that for a dollar.
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs
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That is too weird to imagine.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2021 07:23 PM (TMb1F)

64 A canoe! Just like the Indians used.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 24, 2021 07:24 PM (vuisn)

65 Is it over so soon? Or are you avoiding the cops?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes


Always sound advice.

Posted by: Some Rat in the Swamp at July 24, 2021 07:24 PM (r1z5A)

66 An African Queen remake would be a drag.

Posted by: f'd at July 24, 2021 07:25 PM (Tnijr)

67 I second what skip said about "A Woman in Berlin."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 24, 2021 07:25 PM (2SdPm)

68 A canoe! Just like the Indians used.
Posted by: Dr. Varno
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'Original people', I think.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2021 07:25 PM (h1hWo)

69 Other recent reviews:

https://tinyurl.com/mfzb4cph

La Piscine: French Ennui from 1969, only salvaged by the barely clothed Romy Schneider, et all.

https://tinyurl.com/yneduyfb

The Ladykillers: 1955 British comedy classic with a young Peter Sellers and a not-very-young Alec Guiness.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:25 PM (dhFCT)

70 the only gripe I got with TAQ is there is no way in hell your gonna patch a pressure line with a rag wrapped around it

total bullshit !!

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 07:25 PM (YK4Qh)

71 Is it over so soon? Or are you avoiding the cops?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 24, 2021 07:23 PM (Dc2NZ)


At least tell us you all removed the batteries from your tracking devices, er, phones...

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 24, 2021 07:25 PM (F0YaR)

72 "Out Of Death" (2021) No sir. I don't like it.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs



I believe the proper name of this cinematic piece is "Comatose Line-Readings with Bruce Willis!!"

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2021 07:26 PM (Atzlh)

73 Is it over so soon? Or are you avoiding the cops?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes

when the
NOVAMOME is over then the
NOVAMORGY begins

right?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 24, 2021 07:26 PM (oEn12)

74 "An African Queen remake would be a drag."

OK, throw in time-travel and weightless chop-socky in space.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 24, 2021 07:26 PM (qpX6U)

75 Found Seventeen Moments of Spring from reading Rise and Fall of the Third Reich as well, now the main character is made up but again reading about Nazi powerful people in extra work say one guy was portrayed in this Russian series.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:26 PM (Cxk7w)

76 Nic Cage isn't so bad when one considers his performances in context. Yeah, sure, most of his characters are wooden and spaced-out as hell, but we're mostly talking about action movies where nobody's showing up for interesting characters anyway.

That said, he did himself no favors by making as much money as he did and then going broke. That takes a whole lot of the wrong sort of talent.

Posted by: CppThis at July 24, 2021 07:26 PM (8h1h1)

77 An African Queen remake would be a drag.
Posted by: f'd
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Remakes always suck.

I *might* make an exception for 'True Grit'...but I would not defend it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2021 07:26 PM (h1hWo)

78 Thanks for that Red Letter link, Eris.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2021 07:27 PM (Atzlh)

79 I think C. Hepburn is at her very best only when she is in the same movie with Spencer Tracy.

Posted by: runner at July 24, 2021 07:27 PM (V13WU)

80 Bogie could act! But I'm not sure anyone wanted him to. Sorta like Jimmy Stewart, or even Henry Fonda. They had larger-than-life personas. A fascinating aspect of stardom that really goes against the grain of them that just want to act.
Posted by: moviegique

Strange as it sounds, Adam Sandler is in the same boat. The guy can act, but audiences want him to be some combo of Billy Madison & Happy Gilmore.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 24, 2021 07:28 PM (mf+Bs)

81 ||just watched Black Widow the other day - which widow treats it as a joke?||

The sister. They showed the clip on RLM and it's done as if she were talking about her period with pudgy Stranger Things guy getting squicky about it.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:28 PM (dhFCT)

82 The comparison of Keanu for me is because he has the highest percentage of movies made that I like in spite of him playing Keanu in all of them.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 07:28 PM (2DOZq)

83 remake of a cross of TAQ and Bohemian Rhapsody

starring Don Cheadle and Cher

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 07:28 PM (YK4Qh)

84 "the only gripe I got with TAQ is there is no way in hell your gonna patch a pressure line with a rag wrapped around it
total bullshit !!
Posted by: REDACTED "

Would you believe bubblegum and shoelaces?

Posted by: McGuyver at July 24, 2021 07:28 PM (Tnijr)

85 Thank you a lot for the content! I have to finish up some work, so I will check back later.

But I really appreciated your line about Late-era Kate Hepburn. I had exactly the same experience. For most of my many years, I did not have much interest in her. Then about a year ago, I watched Bringing up baby, then again about a month ago, and I enjoyed it, and her so much, I watched it again last week.

Posted by: MikeM at July 24, 2021 07:29 PM (tA/XW)

86 I think C. Hepburn is at her very best only when she is in the same movie with Spencer Tracy.
Posted by: runner
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Bed...the same bed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2021 07:29 PM (h1hWo)

87 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is on TCM, doubt I seen this since I was 10 years old

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:29 PM (Cxk7w)

88 And so, in the new movie, one of the (now apparently dime-a-dozen) Black Widows recalls the same incident as a flippant joke.

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It's brought up as the punchline of a joke, but it's clear that both of the characters that had it done to them are bitter about it. I suspect that if the movie had done better, we'd be hearing complaints from the usual suspects.

Still might, too, given enough time.

Posted by: junior at July 24, 2021 07:29 PM (PTw5h)

89 By the way, "Admiral" is an excellent film.

Russian with subtitles, but, extremely well done.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 24, 2021 07:29 PM (2SdPm)

90 Capsule: Salma Hayek is still glorious.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:08 PM (dhFCT)


Her causing a car wreck as she crosses a street in the movie Desperado is my high-point of her career.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 24, 2021 07:29 PM (F0YaR)

91 I *might* make an exception for 'True Grit'...but I would not defend it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer


Ghostbusters 2016 kicked the shit out of the original.

Posted by: Paul Feig at July 24, 2021 07:29 PM (r1z5A)

92 Remakes always suck.


Ben Hur aint too bad

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 07:29 PM (YK4Qh)

93 with pudgy Stranger Things guy getting squicky about it.
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:28 PM (dhFCT)

he was the best part of the movie

I thought the sister was bringing up all her grievances against him; didnt teally get the joke vibe

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 24, 2021 07:30 PM (oEn12)

94 "An African Queen remake would be a drag."

OK, throw in time-travel and weightless chop-socky in space.
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs"


No I mean Hepburn's character would be in drag.

Posted by: f'd at July 24, 2021 07:31 PM (Tnijr)

95 I do think Caine Mutiny is Boggies best movie, but do like Maltese Falcon and others.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:31 PM (Cxk7w)

96 Strange as it sounds, Adam Sandler is in the same boat. The guy can act, but audiences want him to be some combo of Billy Madison & Happy Gilmore.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 24, 2021 07:28 PM (mf+Bs)

Funny People was a very good movie. And Blended is one of my favorite guilty pleasure movies. Except for maybe The Wedding Singer , the rest of his movies not very good IMHO though they do have some quotable scenes.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 07:31 PM (2DOZq)

97 ||Posted by: Splunge at July 24, 2021 07:22 PM (S7/a+)||

"Harvey" is a not-terrible example. He wanted it much darker, and actually played it that way on a TV movie in the '70s.

"Vertigo" is sorta works, too. It was a flop, and I do think his edge was part of it. (Also Kim Novak's fate.)

Now I'm blanking on the specific movie I was thinking of, partly because I'm covering it over with Henry Fonda's turn in "Once Upon A Time In The West", but he's a straight-up S.O.B. in it, and it bombed, and the fact that he wasn't doing "Jimmy Stewart" was cited at the time as part of the reason.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:32 PM (dhFCT)

98 Maybe Cage is crazy like a fox.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2021 07:10 PM (Atzlh)


Oh no -- his crazy is organic. Check out via search what happened at one of his Vegas weddings (divorces?)... That's the real deal.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 24, 2021 07:32 PM (F0YaR)

99 My brush with Hollywood legends:

When I was stationed at 8th & I in the 80's, my room mate was an Oval Office sentry and got me into the White House on multiple occasions, most notably when Gorbachev visited.

So, there I was walking around backstage, so to speak, and I look to my right and see a legend, at least to me. Sir, Broken Arrow is one of my favorite movies ever, I said. He shook my hand and said, " thank you corporal, I appreciate that."

James Stewart.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2021 07:32 PM (kTF2Z)

100 The boat filmed in Africa Queen is now a tourist attraction in Florida.

And concur with REDACTED, even the low steam pressure from that boiler would overcome that patch. That is what sized clamps with rubber half-sleeves are for.

Reality =/= Hollywood.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 24, 2021 07:32 PM (u82oZ)

101 Decisions decisions...

Do I watch Night at the Museum or Sherlock Holmes (Robert Downey Jr.).

I like both and its been a while since I watched either one.

What to do, what to do.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 24, 2021 07:32 PM (Vxu+H)

102 @93 I thought the sister was bringing up all her grievances against him; didnt teally get the joke vibe

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She brings it up when he asks if she's so angry because it's that time of month.

So, yeah, there's some humor in the dialogue. But imo the movie makes it clear that she's bitter about it.

Posted by: junior at July 24, 2021 07:33 PM (PTw5h)

103 I like both and its been a while since I watched either one.

What to do, what to do.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 24, 2021 07:32 PM (Vxu+H)
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Soooo..your trying to decide what order in which to watch them?

Night at the Museum definitely first.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 24, 2021 07:33 PM (2SdPm)

104 I had forgotten Sabrina. Thank you. Audrey Hepburn is the love of my life. My timing was just off this lifetime LOL

As for Katherine Hepburn, if you haven't had the pleasure, I highly recommend The Lion In Winter

intro scene:
https://tinyurl.com/2ah6zmv5

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 07:34 PM (49Exr)

105 By the way, "Admiral" is an excellent film.

Russian with subtitles, but, extremely well done.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm)

If the scene of the White Army's bayonet charge doesn't get a guy motivated, his T-levels are lower than a Buzzfeed blogger.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 24, 2021 07:34 PM (mf+Bs)

106 So, Nicholas Cage, who is probably insane, has a new movie out called "Pig", about a man who searches for his kidnapped truffle pig.

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I frequently prosecuted charges against a motorcycle gang member with a fondness for Swastika tattoos and whose sole means of support was, apparently, shade tree pharmacology. He had a harem of biker chicks whom he regularly chastised by means of fist resulting in his visits to me at the courthouse. He was (surprise!) a dirtbag but he was so outrageous I kind of enjoyed talking to him. He tried to explain to me one time that he was a good drug dealer and I should be concentrating in getting the bad drug dealers off the street rather than worrying about whether one of his bitches broke out in black eyes. But one day he went to far. He broke into a neighbor's house and beat the shit out of a teenage boy who, he believed, had stolen his pet pig. He was convicted of serious felonies. At sentencing after listening to a lengthy recitation about what a horrible person he was, he was given a chance to speak. He said, " But your honor, I loved that pig!"

It was funny but I guess you had to be there.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 24, 2021 07:35 PM (d9FiS)

107 100 The boat filmed in Africa Queen is now a tourist attraction in Florida.

I still wanna know where Disney is hiding Captain Nemo's sub.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 24, 2021 07:35 PM (vuisn)

108 Have a stack of DVDs from the library but a curious lack of interest has prevented me from watching all but a few.

Can't remember the other one, but one was Christ Stopped at Eboli. Saw it when it came out long ago. It holds up pretty well. I remember when a big quake hit Eboli a few years after the movie was made.

Something I missed this time was the actual meaning of the title. Eboli was the closest railroad stop to Gagliano, the small town where the commie doctor from Turin was exiled. So - Christ never got to Gagliano. Consistent with the overall theme - the southern Italian peasant class being a different, oppressed country, who were no more accepting, or resistant, to the Fascist regime than they had been to all those that had gone before.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 24, 2021 07:35 PM (OTzUX)

109 'By the way, "Admiral" is an excellent film.'

Thanks! I've got it cued up for tonite.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 24, 2021 07:35 PM (qpX6U)

110 (A Place in the Sun)

Elizabeth Taylor coming out of the water in that swimsuit. If they had cut that scene the movie would have been a box office failure.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 24, 2021 07:35 PM (QQcV5)

111 I once looked at a house to buy in Norfolk CT

the selling point was it was used repeatedly by Hepburn and Tracy as a hideway

like I give a fuck

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 07:36 PM (YK4Qh)

112 The NOVAMOME was outstanding.

Delicious food, great weather with a comfortable cloud cover, nice breeze and on the water

What did I do to deserve such a delightful afternoon?
Posted by: Just Wondering at July 24, 2021 07:06 PM

Fantastic time today! Huge thanks to bluebell and Weasel for arranging the MoMe, and thanks to all.of the amazing 'Ron's and 'ettes who showed up and made it great.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 24, 2021 07:36 PM (XsSlw)

113 "I highly recommend The Lion In Winter"

I love the set too. No Camelot nonsense. England is overcast, dank, cold and dirty. As it really was.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 07:36 PM (49Exr)

114 Okay, I've waited 100 comments. Time to mention C.S. Forester. I'm uncertain how many of his books were the bases for movies. Probably a half dozen?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2021 07:37 PM (PzWA/)

115 I thought the hose-fixing thing was hinky, but I also thought he used duct-tape before he did the rag thing.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:37 PM (dhFCT)

116 I love the set too. No Camelot nonsense. England is overcast, dank, cold and dirty. As it really was.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 07:36 PM (49Exr)
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Yep.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 24, 2021 07:37 PM (2SdPm)

117 Fun fact: Off-screen Humphrey called Katharine "Katie".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 24, 2021 07:38 PM (a3Q+t)

118 Admiral, this one?
Will look at it next
https://youtu.be/bUiuIYeSB6s

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:38 PM (Cxk7w)

119 Ooooooooooooo, LEECHES!!!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2021 07:12 PM (63Dwl)

Why did it have to be leeches?

Posted by: Indiana Solo at July 24, 2021 07:39 PM (4I/2K)

120 Now , let us talk about La Fornarina, 1944, Italian version. If there is a copy that is dubbed in English (and is free, 'cause I ain't paying for it), I certainly would like to know. I only wanted to see the film because of Lida Baarova. I mean, wouldn't you ? Lavish, well acted melodrama. Baarova is a bit too old to be playing the teenage title role, but her acting was surprisingly good. Professional I would say. Movie mainly concerned itself with Raphael's search for "Galatea" , inspiration to help him decorate a place called the Vatican to Pope Julius II's pleasure. Fabulous Leonora D'Este is doing her best to inspire him, but then walks in Baarova La Fornarina...

Posted by: runner at July 24, 2021 07:39 PM (V13WU)

121 C.S. Forester has 12 feature film credits, including "Horatio Hornblower" but not including "Star Trek" even though Kirk was based on Horatio Hornblower.

He also has 17 TV credits.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:39 PM (dhFCT)

122 Elizabeth Taylor coming out of the water in that swimsuit. If they had cut that scene the movie would have been a box office failure.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 24, 2021 07:35 PM (QQcV5)

my fav Liz movie is "Jane Eyre"

she's like 10 yo, in it for five minutes and then , my fav part, dies

I hate Liz

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 07:39 PM (YK4Qh)

123 Will look at it next
https://youtu.be/bUiuIYeSB6s
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:38 PM (Cxk7w)
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That's it.

Oddly enough, Ann Barnhardt, she of the crazy eyes, recommended the film.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 24, 2021 07:39 PM (2SdPm)

124 We just made the kids watch The Sandlot. Such a great movie about being young and carefree and having a blast during summer. The way things used to be.

Posted by: InCali at July 24, 2021 07:40 PM (ov5G+)

125 Good flick, about the only Kate H. I like. The insect attack scene always gives me the heebee geebees.
Posted by: lizabth

You didn't like Bringing up Baby ?

Posted by: JT at July 24, 2021 07:40 PM (arJlL)

126 I just got Hot Shots! Part Deux at Goodwill.

I should have a Hot Shots! marathon. It would show a better US Navy, command structure, and President than we have now.

But I have not watched a DVD in two years.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 24, 2021 07:40 PM (u82oZ)

127 Lion in Winter has always been one of my favorites.

But the castle was in France, right, not England?

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 24, 2021 07:40 PM (OTzUX)

128 Hearing shooting, hope it's at that fat groundhog I saw a couple hours ago.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:40 PM (Cxk7w)

129 when the
NOVAMOME is over then the
NOVAMORGY begins

right?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 24, 2021 07:26 PM

At 29? Hell, it's almost 9:00. Time for the NoVaMoNap.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 24, 2021 07:41 PM (XsSlw)

130 Bogart is totally miscast in Sabrina. I do like him in To Have And Have Not

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 24, 2021 07:41 PM (YynYJ)

131 On a movie topic, can you help me appreciate Humphrey Bogart? For some reason he never quite seems real to me in any movie, even one I sorta enjoy. He's like a one man disruptor of my suspension of disbelief. Is there a cure for that?
Posted by: Splunge

He was excellent in The Caine Mutiny.

Posted by: JT at July 24, 2021 07:41 PM (arJlL)

132 Fun fact: Off-screen Humphrey called Katharine "Katie".
Posted by: Duncanthrax


Supposedly everyone got dysentery but Bogart and Huston...by the intake of copious amounts of alcohol.

Posted by: Paul Feig at July 24, 2021 07:42 PM (r1z5A)

133 But the castle was in France, right, not England?
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 24, 2021 07:40 PM

No.

*points*

There castle.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 24, 2021 07:42 PM (XsSlw)

134 Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 24, 2021 07:32 PM (Vxu+H)

Reminds me. Enough time has passed for my second viewing of The Gentlemen.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 07:42 PM (2DOZq)

135 Only encounter with leeches was with the smaller kind (Borneo), not them big ol' honkin' African ones. And it was a bit less dramatic than the scene in AQ.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 24, 2021 07:42 PM (OTzUX)

136 she's like 10 yo, in it for five minutes and then , my fav part, dies

I hate Liz
Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 07:39 PM (YK4Qh)


*fistbumb*

Posted by: Bubbles the chimp at July 24, 2021 07:42 PM (YNtR8)

137 Hollywood died. Be a long time before we see actors like Bogie, Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda, etc. again.

Posted by: dartist at July 24, 2021 07:42 PM (+ya+t)

138
No.

*points*

There castle.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 24, 2021 07:42 PM (XsSlw)
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But, was it your Fodders castle?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 24, 2021 07:42 PM (2SdPm)

139 I love Russian movies, I might be up to 30 or more watched.
Really wish I could read it

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:43 PM (Cxk7w)

140 126 I just got Hot Shots! Part Deux at Goodwill.

I should have a Hot Shots! marathon. It would show a better US Navy, command structure, and President than we have now.

But I have not watched a DVD in two years.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 24, 2021 07:40 PM (u82oZ)


That's a really funny pair of movies. I need to watch them again. Occasionally I chuckle randomly, and I do not want to admit that I'm thinking of Dead Meat's wife turning away from the disaster, and toward a mirror that shows it perfectly.

Posted by: Splunge at July 24, 2021 07:43 PM (S7/a+)

141 Dang!

Posted by: Some Rat in the swamp. at July 24, 2021 07:43 PM (r1z5A)

142 Well I'm very weak on that part of history, but thought Christmas was at Chinon in France - so at least the setting was supposed to be France?

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 24, 2021 07:43 PM (OTzUX)

143
Hearing shooting, hope it's at that fat groundhog I saw a couple hours ago.
Posted by: Skip


I wouldn't like to see a groundhog with a gun.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2021 07:44 PM (63Dwl)

144 135 Only encounter with leeches was with the smaller kind (Borneo), not them big ol' honkin' African ones. And it was a bit less dramatic than the scene in AQ.
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 24, 2021 07:42 PM (OTzUX)


I too want to live a life free of lawyers.

Posted by: Splunge at July 24, 2021 07:44 PM (S7/a+)

145 willowed:
I worry Julie has to be under surveillance from the spooks.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 05:58 PM (Cxk7w)

There is no doubt in my mind that this is true.



Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at July 24, 2021 05:58 PM (RpgR7)
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we are ALL under surveillance.


Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated we all know it. at July 24, 2021 07:42 PM (HQA9W)

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 24, 2021 07:44 PM (HQA9W)

146 Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

C.S. Forester.

Brown on Resolution is a great novella and I heard it is a film.

Hornblower is a movie and I hear a TV show, from different parts of his career.

The Destroyer / Tom Hanks film is from his Good Shepard.

Probably a lot more that I missed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 24, 2021 07:44 PM (u82oZ)

147 "the selling point was it was used repeatedly by Hepburn and Tracy as a hideway"

My Ps 2nd house was custom built by one of the Muppet Founders. I forget his but he was real famous in that venue.

Took us a few months to realize that everything was made for a left-hander. The interior doors, cabinets, kitchen and bathroom sinks, etc.

After a year or so we began to appreciate the burden of lefties, since we were in a house were everything was "backwards". You think it's No Big Deal, but really it's like walking through life with a pebble in your shoe - a constant irritation that you have to lend energy to overcome 24/7

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 07:44 PM (49Exr)

148 I've mentioned this many times, but remakes do NOT always suck.

What happens, though, is that the great remakes tend to obliterate past versions out of memory.

Nobody much remembers the silent "Wizard of Oz" even though it was successful enough to get an early-talkie sequel. What about "The Maltese Falcon"? Did you know Bette Davis was in the =second= version in 1936? The one we all remember is John Huston's 1941 debut.

Do you know which version of "The Front Page" is your favorite? (Mine is "His Girl Friday".) What about "A Star Is Born"?

Is 1977's "Heaven Can Wait" better or worse than "Here Comes Mr. Jordan"? And why did Beatty steal the title of the unrelated 1943 Don Ameche/Ernst Lubitsch classic?

Why am I rambling when I know the message software is going to make me break this into multiples?

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:45 PM (dhFCT)

149 Was it "Hot Shots" where one pilot is looking at a photo of his girl and another whistles and says "Nice!", and the pilot says "Thank you, I try to work out".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at July 24, 2021 07:45 PM (Dc2NZ)

150 Holy crap, it didn't!

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:45 PM (dhFCT)

151 recently binged the Hornblower tv movies (Ioan Gruffudd)

they are all on youtube - search for the HD ones

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 24, 2021 07:45 PM (oEn12)

152 You didn't like Bringing up Baby ?
Posted by: JT

I didn't too much, but Holiday was okay.

Posted by: lizabth at July 24, 2021 07:45 PM (L3Rsz)

153 La Fornarina, 1944 might be on YouTube full movie

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:46 PM (Cxk7w)

154 131 On a movie topic, can you help me appreciate Humphrey Bogart? For some reason he never quite seems real to me in any movie, even one I sorta enjoy. He's like a one man disruptor of my suspension of disbelief. Is there a cure for that?
Posted by: Splunge

He was excellent in The Caine Mutiny.
Posted by: JT at July 24, 2021 07:41 PM (arJlL)


He was, but that is the very locus of my problem. He acted up a storm. He was great. But overlaid on all that was a basic feeling that this was not quite a human being who was doing all that. So I wanted to laugh my guts out about the strawberries, instead of being caught up in the drama.

Posted by: Splunge at July 24, 2021 07:46 PM (S7/a+)

155 The movie was directed by Enrico Guazzoni, with whose work I am not familiar, but looking at his body of work, I think he might have been a very big deal at the dawn of cinema.

Posted by: runner at July 24, 2021 07:46 PM (V13WU)

156 I hate depressing movies because it's not why I watch movies but I was trying to think of depressing movies I couldn't help but like because they were so interesting.

So far I can only come up with two.

The Human Stain
This Property is Condemned

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 07:46 PM (2DOZq)

157 La Fornarina, 1944 might be on YouTube full movie
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:46 PM (Cxk7w)

In Italian.

Posted by: runner at July 24, 2021 07:47 PM (V13WU)

158 Duke, that's a great story. I remember watching Gorby live, the event in the East Room where Van Cliburn was playing Moscow Nights, and Raisa was singing along, but Gorby clearly forgot the words and was doing that weak lip-moving thing where you don't really know the words pretty quickly.

I didn't have much Hollywood contact in DC. But Tony Randall did hold the door for me first time I was going in the East Wing gallery on the Mall soon after it opened (appropriate). A few hours later the then-VP chatted me and my buddy up in the dairy section of the Giant Food up on Wisconsin near the Cathedral. Best part was telling my friend, who was visiting - "oh yeah, pretty normal, this kind of stuff". !!

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 24, 2021 07:47 PM (OTzUX)

159 So I wanted to laugh my guts out about the strawberries, instead of being caught up in the drama.
Posted by: Splunge


What do you have against geometric logic?

Posted by: Some Rat in the swamp. at July 24, 2021 07:48 PM (r1z5A)

160 For those who do not know why Baarova is notorious, she was Joseph Goebbels' mistress.

Posted by: runner at July 24, 2021 07:48 PM (V13WU)

161 "I highly recommend The Lion In Winter"

I love the set too. No Camelot nonsense. England is overcast, dank, cold and dirty.

-
A medieval Godfather.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 24, 2021 07:49 PM (d9FiS)

162 Remakes always suck.

I *might* make an exception for 'True Grit'...but I would not defend it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

I liked the remake , but in an effort to sound gruff, Jeff Bridges sounded like Mushmouth Johnson.

Posted by: JT at July 24, 2021 07:49 PM (arJlL)

163 think on that !

Posted by: runner at July 24, 2021 07:49 PM (V13WU)

164 111 I once looked at a house to buy in Norfolk CT

the selling point was it was used repeatedly by Hepburn and Tracy as a hideway

like I give a fuck
Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 07:36 PM

I think my response on that would be "oh so it was their fuck nest. Did you take a black light to it." Just to see if I could make the realtor freak.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2021 07:49 PM (CNz6Q)

165 My favorite Hepburn movie is the aforementioned Bringing Up Baby. It's also my favorite Grant movie.

And my favorite movie with a tame leopard. And favorite drunk Irish caretaker.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 07:50 PM (5ieoM)

166 I really should get off my ass and go weld up the crazy wheel for the welding cart.

Posted by: Some Rat in the swamp. at July 24, 2021 07:51 PM (r1z5A)

167 Hobo Bogart???

typo or commentary?

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 24, 2021 07:51 PM (HQA9W)

168 137 Hollywood died. Be a long time before we see actors like Bogie, Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda, etc. again.
Posted by: dartist



Henry Fonda as Frank in the magnificent 'Once Upon A Time in the West' is his best role. Probably one of the greatest bad guys ever. Frank was cruel and evil but totally chill about it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 24, 2021 07:51 PM (QFVV9)

169 But the castle was in France, right, not England?
Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 24, 2021 07:40 PM

Yes, that's correct. I did not know that.

googled it:
The Lion In Winter location: Abbaye de Montmajour, France

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 07:51 PM (49Exr)

170 You Know Who was not happy with Goebbels and the Czech actress having their thing, so it ended. And thenceforth the little club-foot piece of evil refuse had the wife and 5 kids out to Bodensee, his estate outside Berlin, regularly. He had used it as a hook-up shack prior to that.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 24, 2021 07:51 PM (OTzUX)

171 I highly recommend The Lion In Winter"

I love the set too. No Camelot nonsense. England is overcast, dank, cold and dirty.

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A medieval Godfather.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 24, 2021 07:49 PM (d9FiS)

Great movie that they never play on tv and not available on On Demand is the Charlton Heston movie The War Lord.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 07:51 PM (2DOZq)

172 "I love Russian movies, I might be up to 30 or more watched.
Really wish I could read it"

I took it in college on a lark. It's fun, though I'm way too out of practice to read it these days.

But check out my "Cursed Official" review. I was going to put it up here instead of "The African Queen" but forgot and published it on my site.

The thing that struck me is that, in a movie about a country that is a complete sh*th*le, where the topic is how you can't do anything without a bribe, THEY STILL LOVE THEIR COUNTRY.

It's like seeing Korean movies about how bad the gov't is messed up--which is the basis for every single Korean historical drama--but they never lose sight of the fact that Koreans, as a people, are great and should be proud to be Koreans.

That would be "controversial" here, were it ever allowed.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:51 PM (dhFCT)

173 @148 What happens, though, is that the great remakes tend to obliterate past versions out of memory.

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No mention of Ben Hur? The famous one with Charleton Heston was the third time it had been released to theaters, iirc.

Posted by: junior at July 24, 2021 07:52 PM (PTw5h)

174 My guilty secret. After seeing the trailer, I thought I might see Jungle Cruise.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 24, 2021 07:52 PM (d9FiS)

175 ||167 Hobo Bogart???

typo or commentary?
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 24, 2021 07:51 PM (HQA9W)
|||

Commentary. That's why it appears twice. He's a bum in this.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:53 PM (dhFCT)

176 A remake of The African Queen would have to be set in Sweden, not Africa, due to systematic racism.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 24, 2021 07:53 PM (0nJL1)

177 I meant the historic/supposed location of the castle for the movie, not the location used for filming - though I guess that's in France too. As I said very weak on that history but thought Henry convened the famille for Christmas at Chinon (in the script).

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 24, 2021 07:53 PM (OTzUX)

178 ||No mention of Ben Hur? The famous one with Charleton Heston was the third time it had been released to theaters, iirc.||

I was already running out of space!

The pressure!

Also "The Ten Commandments".

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:53 PM (dhFCT)

179 Great movie that they never play on tv and not available on On Demand is the Charlton Heston movie The War Lord.?

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I loved that as a kid.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 24, 2021 07:53 PM (d9FiS)

180 People who see "Bogie" in every Bogart movie are cultural hysterics. Amazing to me.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 24, 2021 07:54 PM (oWBc3)

181 ||174 My guilty secret. After seeing the trailer, I thought I might see Jungle Cruise.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 24, 2021 07:52 PM (d9FiS)||

You know what? Knock yourself out. It looks like loud, dumb fun, and if you have earplugs or you're partly deaf, there's no reason you shouldn't enjoy yourself.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:54 PM (dhFCT)

182 Italian? Eh, watched many Russian and didn't get a word of it.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:54 PM (Cxk7w)

183 @26 - the huggies scene may be the funniest 2 minutes of film ever. Great movie

Posted by: 496 at July 24, 2021 07:54 PM (U1eOr)

184 On a movie topic, can you help me appreciate Humphrey Bogart? For some reason he never quite seems real to me in any movie, even one I sorta enjoy. He's like a one man disruptor of my suspension of disbelief. Is there a cure for that?
Posted by: Splunge at July 24, 2021 07:02 PM (S7/a+)

It's been eons since I've seen it, but "Beat the Devil" is a Bogart film where Bogart isn't basically playing Bogart.

Give that one a try. I think he's great in just about everything I see of his, but I certainly understand the phenomenon. For me, one of the worst is Jack Nickolson. He's always doing Jack Nickolson, and I find him very very off-putting.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 07:54 PM (5ieoM)

185 Humphrey Bogart was always the head of the Rat Pack in every movie he was in. Coolest dude in the room.

Posted by: dartist at July 24, 2021 07:55 PM (+ya+t)

186 "Remakes always suck."

Maybe not. There will come a time when we get a reboot of Disney's Star Wars abortion.

I've got a letter ready to send to Kennedy:

Dear C-nt,
Let the past die, kill it if you have to.
Remember saying that? Now it's your turn.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 07:55 PM (49Exr)

187 ||176 A remake of The African Queen would have to be set in Sweden, not Africa, due to systematic racism.||

In the 18th century. With all of the characters black or Asian.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:55 PM (dhFCT)

188 @172 The thing that struck me is that, in a movie about a country that is a complete sh*th*le, where the topic is how you can't do anything without a bribe, THEY STILL LOVE THEIR COUNTRY.

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I used to spend a lot of time on a forum for a historical miniatures company that specialized in World War 2 and Cold War, and the most aggressively pro-home nation people on the forum by far were the Russians.

It was crazy.

Posted by: junior at July 24, 2021 07:55 PM (PTw5h)

189 Watching Admiral, they are getting pounded.but have to finish it tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 07:55 PM (Cxk7w)

190 175 ||167 Hobo Bogart???

typo or commentary?
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 24, 2021 07:51 PM (HQA9W)

Bogie was known to bend the elbow, a lot

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 07:56 PM (YK4Qh)

191 "I highly recommend The Lion In Winter"

Was also Anthony Hopkins first movie.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 07:56 PM (49Exr)

192 Another time I was in the WH, we were standing between the WH and the OEB. When Reagan came out I threw the snappiest salute I could muster. He was carrying some things in his right hand which he shifted to his left and returned my salute. At the time I thought that was the coolest thing ever. Wait, it was the coolest thing ever.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2021 07:56 PM (kTF2Z)

193 I liked African Queen and Bringing Up Baby. I remembered African Queen was a film that got colorized. Must of been a different one, IMDB poster for the movie has it in technicolor. For years I disliked Audrey Hepburn, because I thought "great a Hepburn movie", then it was the wrong one. Of course I did learn to appreciate her as well over time.

Posted by: Fred at July 24, 2021 07:56 PM (VEOOY)

194 For me, one of the worst is Jack Nickolson. He's always doing Jack Nickolson, and I find him very very off-putting.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 07:54 PM (5ieoM)

**

Hold my beer.
- George Clooney somehow still managing to play George Clooney in an animated movie

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 07:57 PM (BGev3)

195 Oddly enough, Ann Barnhardt, she of the crazy eyes, recommended the film.

Posted by: blake


She is crazy, but she's right about Anti-Pope Frankie the Pedophile Commie.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2021 07:57 PM (Atzlh)

196 Moviegique I'm glad Flower was accepting of Hobo Bogart (good name for a band btw).

I MUCH prefer Bogart in roles like the one in African Queen to his more cool heroic ones. Maybe it's just me, I dunno.

He was VERY good at bad guys, or flawed characters or even psychotic characters.

Fred C Dobbs in "Treasure of the Sierra Madre". Capt Queeg in "The Caine Mutiny". The bad guy in "The Desperate Hours".

Posted by: Hands at July 24, 2021 07:57 PM (786Ro)

197 Also "The Ten Commandments".
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:53 PM (dhFCT)

Speaking of overrated... Cec DeMille, the Roland Emmerich of his day.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 07:57 PM (5ieoM)

198 >>Strange as it sounds, Adam Sandler is in the same boat. The guy can act, but audiences want him to be some combo of Billy Madison & Happy Gilmore.


Think it may also be that Sandler figured out h can use movies to take long vacations with his actor friends and family? A number of them sem to have been more fun to make than see IYKWIM.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2021 07:58 PM (bDqIh)

199 The Duke & The Gipper.

In Theatres Now.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 24, 2021 07:58 PM (jvt6t)

200 Henry Fonda as Frank in the magnificent 'Once Upon A Time in the West' is his best role. Probably one of the greatest bad guys ever. Frank was cruel and evil but totally chill about it.
Posted by: Puddleglum

The ending was EXCELLENT !

Posted by: JT at July 24, 2021 07:58 PM (arJlL)

201 Agreed about Streep and Scorsese. Except I mostly do avoid them.

Posted by: Hands at July 24, 2021 07:58 PM (786Ro)

202 ||he was the best part of the movie||

That was Red Letter Media's take on it.

||I thought the sister was bringing up all her grievances against him; didnt teally get the joke vibe||

His reaction to it was jokey.

But obviously I'm just watching a clip of a movie I have zero intention of ever seeing. If it didn't come off that way, well, good.

My point still stands, I think: You won't get a movie today about people engaging in a heterosexual romance that strengthens their resolve and causes them to want to be better people. And to actually be better.[1]

[1]Citation: The last 20 years of movie-making.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 07:59 PM (dhFCT)

203 I actually bought the Prizzi's Honor dvd so i could watch it.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 24, 2021 07:59 PM (0nJL1)

204 Think it may also be that Sandler figured out h can use movies to take long vacations with his actor friends and family? A number of them sem to have been more fun to make than see IYKWIM.
Posted by: Lizzy


Red Letter Media had an interesting take on that. (they don't approve)

Posted by: Some Rat in the swamp. at July 24, 2021 08:00 PM (r1z5A)

205 Did you know that for the scene in the rapids, a model of the African Queen was used?

(You can see it in the lobby of a restaurant in Annapolis, The People's Republic of Maryland.)

Posted by: Just Wondering at July 24, 2021 08:00 PM (jYQlA)

206 Tom Hanks always plays Tom Hanks, still would like to see that WWII North Atlantic movie

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 08:00 PM (Cxk7w)

207 >>For me, one of the worst is Jack Nickolson. He's always doing Jack Nickolson, and I find him very very off-putting.


UGH, yes.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2021 08:00 PM (bDqIh)

208 TCM played The Petrified Forest earlier today.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2021 08:00 PM (63Dwl)

209 My guilty secret. After seeing the trailer, I thought I might see Jungle Cruise.

Then go see it. Life is too short not to enjoy pleasures that make you happy, even if just for the moment, that don't directly hurt anyone else.

Seeing Jungle Cruise certainly qualifies.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 24, 2021 08:01 PM (huES0)

210 Hold my beer.
- George Clooney somehow still managing to play George Clooney in an animated movie
Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 07:57 PM (BGev3)

Clooney is in several Coen Brothers films, and I generally like his work in those. In fact, "Hail Caesar!" is basically Clooney playing a Clooney type actor, and perhaps not even realizing he's portraying himself as the buffoon he is.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:01 PM (5ieoM)

211 ||Moviegique I'm glad Flower was accepting of Hobo Bogart (good name for a band btw).||

What would they play, though? Smooth jazz? Heavy on the saxophone and cigarettes?

||I MUCH prefer Bogart in roles like the one in African Queen to his more cool heroic ones. Maybe it's just me, I dunno.||

I think it's clearly not JUST you. I'm fine with him in anything but I will concede that I see him as an icon, and he can probably do no wrong. (Though that last movie he did with Bacall wasn't great. "Dark Passage". Not bad, just not great.)

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:02 PM (dhFCT)

212 Clooney plays a good idiot.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 24, 2021 08:02 PM (0nJL1)

213 Have a great night, everyone.

We can stand down the MoMeet rescue squad and the bail bondsman team. Out before the soap hits the shower floor, in the great words of Tonypete.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 24, 2021 08:02 PM (u82oZ)

214 I think A Star is Born has been made four times.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 08:02 PM (2DOZq)

215 @208 Tom Hanks always plays Tom Hanks, still would like to see that WWII North Atlantic movie

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Quite good, imo. Well worth watching.

Posted by: junior at July 24, 2021 08:03 PM (PTw5h)

216 "It's just human nature, miss."

"Human nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we're put on this earth to rise above."

Posted by: Wethal at July 24, 2021 08:03 PM (ZzVCK)

217 >> You won't get a movie today about people engaging in a heterosexual romance that strengthens their resolve and causes them to want to be better people. And to actually be better.[1]


Heh, that's why "The Cutting Edge" is a great lil' rom-com. Both need to be better and they bring that out in each other.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2021 08:03 PM (bDqIh)

218 Salma Hayek is a smoke show in the otherwise stupid "After The Sunset"

Posted by: Hands at July 24, 2021 08:04 PM (786Ro)

219 The Destroyer / Tom Hanks film is from his Good Shepard.

Probably a lot more that I missed.
Posted by: NaCly
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I've read a bunch of them, including 'The Good Shepherd'. Have not seen the Hanks movie. C.S. Forester is mentioned occasionally on the Book Thread. Several have mentioned 'Rifleman Dodd', which I also have and have read. Many others, not to mention the Hornblower series.

No idea how many books he wrote. Lots.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2021 08:04 PM (uxqZF)

220 Think it may also be that Sandler figured out h can use movies to take long vacations with his actor friends and family? A number of them sem to have been more fun to make than see IYKWIM.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2021 07:58 PM (bDqIh)

Yup. That's one of the RLM running gags, how Sandler movies are basically tax write-off vacations with his pals. Product placement shams, with tens of millions of dollar "budgets" that basically go directly into Sandler's pocket.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:04 PM (5ieoM)

221 I think Eastwood's best movie may be Million Dollar Baby, love that movie.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 24, 2021 08:04 PM (0nJL1)

222 Clooney was best as the idiot in Brother Where Art Thou

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 08:04 PM (Cxk7w)

223 I remember on a commentary for Sin City, Frank Miller mentions that he asked who the filmmakers were going to get for Hartigan. They mentioned Bruce Willis and asked if he was ok with it. He said something along the lines of: 'Am I ok with the modern version of Humphrey Bogart!?'

I like Miller. I even like Willis, but... no.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 24, 2021 08:04 PM (csEWM)

224 Tom Hanks always plays Tom Hanks, still would like to see that WWII North Atlantic movie----

Still liked it but I would have preferred someone else in Road to Perdition other than Hanks.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 08:05 PM (2DOZq)

225 Good to hear Salty! Glad it was a resounding success.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 24, 2021 08:05 PM (6WCwE)

226 You won't get a movie today about people engaging in a heterosexual romance that strengthens their resolve and causes them to want to be better people. And to actually be better.[1]

***

Similar to why - like Reagan's salute mentioned above - a politician who loves America and all Americans is so refreshing and something that resonates with people.

And also not allowed.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 08:05 PM (BGev3)

227 ||Heh, that's why "The Cutting Edge" is a great lil' rom-com. Both need to be better and they bring that out in each other.||

The 1992 ice-skating movie? That was before romcoms were Ephronized.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:05 PM (dhFCT)

228 Eleanor of Aquitaine in "The Lion in Winter" is one of Hepburn's best roles. As is her Christina Drayton in "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner".

Posted by: aelfheld at July 24, 2021 08:06 PM (Zy9Yy)

229 BTW: written Sci-Fi story lines i'd love to see made into movies?
Retief and Bolos by Keith Laumer
Berserkers by Fred Saberhagen
Stainless Steel Rat by Harry Harrison

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 24, 2021 08:06 PM (HQA9W)

230 I think Eastwood's best movie may be Million Dollar Baby, love that movie.
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 24, 2021 08:04 PM (0nJ

I thought it was agreed that The Outlaw Josey Wales is his best movie.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 08:07 PM (2DOZq)

231 Heh, that's why "The Cutting Edge" is a great lil' rom-com. Both need to be better and they bring that out in each other.||

The 1992 ice-skating movie? That was before romcoms were Ephronized.
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:05 PM (dhFCT)

Toe Pick

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 08:08 PM (2DOZq)

232 Clooney was best as the idiot in Brother Where Art Thou.

I think he did great work in Ocean's Eleven.

Clooney never took a sufficiently heavy role. Would have liked to seen him in a Fletch role true to the books - not the Chevy Chase abomination.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 24, 2021 08:08 PM (huES0)

233 Berserkers by Fred Saberhagen

**

(fistbump)

Super easy to create the worlds, and the small stories wouldn't require big name actors or big name actor carryovers into sequels. Which is why they can't do it, I guess, and if they did they'd ruin it. See also: World War Z

I'd add Pohl's Heechee saga, but only the first three books. It got really, really bad after that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 08:09 PM (BGev3)

234 >>Clooney never took a sufficiently heavy role. Would have liked to seen him in a Fletch role true to the books - not the Chevy Chase abomination.


John Hamm is currently shooting Fletch remake here in MA.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2021 08:10 PM (bDqIh)

235 After "A Serious Man" I realized the theme of every Coen brothers movie is "Nobody ever knows what's really going on...and their plans suffer accordingly."

Josh Brolin in "Hail Caesar" is the only exception.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:10 PM (dhFCT)

236 Clooney is good in The American and Solaris, both of which are fairly serious, somber movies.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 24, 2021 08:11 PM (QU5/8)

237 Remake of Africa Queen, Rose is still a Bible thumping spinster but Charlie is a tyranny who changes her.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 08:11 PM (Cxk7w)

238 Great dissection of the Queen.

Also the movie displays how happy they are not to be dead yet killed efficiently. .

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 24, 2021 08:11 PM (ptq0O)

239 You don't have to say that a Chevy Chase movie is an abomination. We'll just assume it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 24, 2021 08:11 PM (d9FiS)

240 My auto cucumber is twisting everything I write.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 08:11 PM (Cxk7w)

241 Oh, yeah, some more reviews:


https://tinyurl.com/4s6ctwwc

A Quiet Place II: Not quite "more of the same" as its predecessor. Goes in some unexpected directions.

https://tinyurl.com/y79ry7r3

Conjuring 3: More of the same but pretty well done nonetheless, with an interesting variation as the Warrens fight the anti-Warren.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:12 PM (dhFCT)

242 Toe Pick
Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 08:08 PM (2DOZq)

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I so wanted to see him hip check her into the boards.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 24, 2021 08:12 PM (kTF2Z)

243 Probably the worst remake of all time is "Silk Stockings" 1957

a singing and dancing "Ninotchka" rehash

someone should have been shot

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 08:12 PM (YK4Qh)

244 For me, one of the worst is Jack Nickolson. He's always doing Jack Nickolson, and I find him very very off-putting.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 07:54 PM

You know, I'm right here, muthafuckah!

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at July 24, 2021 08:12 PM (XsSlw)

245 240 Clooney is good in The American and Solaris, both of which are fairly serious, somber movies.


Never saw the Clooney 'Solaris'. The original is a classic. I love it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 24, 2021 08:12 PM (QFVV9)

246 >>You don't have to say that a Chevy Chase movie is an abomination. We'll just assume it.


*shrugs*
I liked Foul Play and the first Fletch. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2021 08:13 PM (bDqIh)

247 After "A Serious Man" I realized the theme of every Coen brothers movie is "Nobody ever knows what's really going on...and their plans suffer accordingly."

Josh Brolin in "Hail Caesar" is the only exception.
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:10 PM (dhFCT)

Or to put it another way, "Nobody knows anybody. Not that well."

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:13 PM (5ieoM)

248 Retief and Bolos by Keith Laumer
Berserkers by Fred Saberhagen
Stainless Steel Rat by Harry Harrison

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it



Oh, Hell yes.

Speaking of berserkers, I saw an interview with Mel Gibson from a few years back where he talks about how he's always wanted to do a Viking Berserker movie.

*imagines . . . *

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2021 08:13 PM (Atzlh)

249 You know, I'm right here, muthafuckah!

**

His is by FAR the most offensive.

He's literally made over a billion dollars for his ability to portray a horrible, stereotypical black man to white audiences.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 08:13 PM (BGev3)

250 John Hamm is currently shooting Fletch remake here in MA.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2021 08:10 PM

Just....why?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 24, 2021 08:14 PM (XsSlw)

251 ||251 >>You don't have to say that a Chevy Chase movie is an abomination. We'll just assume it.


*shrugs*
I liked Foul Play and the first Fletch. . .||

I like "Oh, Heavenly Dog" but I still think it's a safe assumption about Chase movies.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:14 PM (dhFCT)

252 >>You don't have to say that a Chevy Chase movie is an abomination. We'll just assume it.


*shrugs*
I liked Foul Play and the first Fletch. . .
Posted by: Lizzy

Vacation and Christmas Vacation are both classics.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 24, 2021 08:14 PM (mf+Bs)

253 I liked Clooney as the fishing boat captain in The Perfect Storm.

Posted by: dartist at July 24, 2021 08:14 PM (+ya+t)

254 Shame but better turn this off.
Have a good evening everyone.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2021 08:14 PM (Cxk7w)

255 Hamm is good in Baby Driver.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 24, 2021 08:15 PM (0nJL1)

256 Can't top Lee Majors as THE NORSEMAN.

Vikings vs Injuns in medieval Florida.

Posted by: Hands at July 24, 2021 08:15 PM (786Ro)

257 John Hamm is currently shooting Fletch remake here in MA.

Hmm ... I dunno'. And I never watched a single minute of Mad Men - I truly do not know. Can Hamm do the smart ass part of Fletch ?

Fletch - I read them as a kid - always made me think of James Garner.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 24, 2021 08:15 PM (huES0)

258 Since you mentioned it, you should do a review of The Lion in Winter. I really like that film though for personal reasons.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 24, 2021 08:15 PM (hwaFC)

259 I don't know if i should ice her or marry her.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 24, 2021 08:15 PM (ptq0O)

260 >>Speaking of berserkers, I saw an interview with Mel Gibson from a few years back where he talks about how he's always wanted to do a Viking Berserker movie.



OH YES

Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2021 08:16 PM (bDqIh)

261 ||Or to put it another way, "Nobody knows anybody. Not that well."||

They took his hair, Tommy. Jesus, that's strange, why would they do that?

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:16 PM (dhFCT)

262 When you're a less convincing actor in all your roles than Christopher Walken, who somehow ISN'T Christopher Walken in his roles even though he still very much is, you're not a very good actor.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 08:16 PM (BGev3)

263 Conjuring 3: More of the same but pretty well done nonetheless, with an interesting variation as the Warrens fight the anti-Warren.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:12 PM (dhFCT)

My biggest problem with the unrealistic nature of the Conjuring movies is, Very Farmiga really touches me in my no-no square, but Lorraine Warren.... eeesh! Heck no.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:16 PM (5ieoM)

264 Now the Fletch theme is stuck in my head.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 24, 2021 08:16 PM (mf+Bs)

265 No mention of Ben Hur? The famous one with Charleton Heston was the third time it had been released to theaters, iirc.
Posted by: junior at July 24, 2021 07:52 PM (PTw5h

And the most recent movie is completely ignored or forgotten. Not exactly surprising. All I remember about the commercials for it is their singular focus on the chariot race. And that just told me the studio had no clue about the previous movie and what makes it so strong.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2021 08:16 PM (CNz6Q)

266 I liked Clooney as the fishing boat captain in The Perfect Storm.

So did I. Forgot about that one. A good watch. Thanks for the reminder.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 24, 2021 08:17 PM (huES0)

267 @253 Speaking of berserkers, I saw an interview with Mel Gibson from a few years back where he talks about how he's always wanted to do a Viking Berserker movie.

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Amusingly...

One of the berserker novels was a time travel story set on another world, and one of the past eras visited featured a pretty close analogue to the Vikings.

Posted by: junior at July 24, 2021 08:17 PM (PTw5h)

268 ||Since you mentioned it, you should do a review of The Lion in Winter. I really like that film though for personal reasons.||

I saw "The Lion In Winter" once when I was...(does math in head)...nearly -3 years old.

I haaaaaated it.

Maybe I'll re-watch it and give it another go but it's everything I hate about that time period summed up into one ugly, gritty melodrama.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:17 PM (dhFCT)

269 Or to put it another way, "Nobody knows anybody. Not that well."


I almost put it that way.

Posted by: William Goldman at July 24, 2021 08:18 PM (786Ro)

270 114 Okay, I've waited 100 comments. Time to mention C.S. Forester. I'm uncertain how many of his books were the bases for movies. Probably a half dozen?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 24, 2021 07:37 PM (PzWA/)
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Here's his IMDB page:

https://www.imdb.com/name
/nm0286163/?ref_=hm_rvi_nm_i_3

I liked the Hornblower TV movies.

Posted by: zmdavid at July 24, 2021 08:18 PM (xqRaG)

271 "And so, in the new movie, one of the (now apparently dime-a-dozen) Black Widows recalls the same incident as a flippant joke."

Interesting coincidence(?) - they did the same thing with Brianne's virginity in Season 8 Game of Thrones

(ugh can't find Mauler's link to it, oh well)

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 08:19 PM (49Exr)

272 " The Wind and the Lion" was not a particularly good movie but the "Marine" sequence was one of the best scenes ever filmed.

Posted by: Javems at July 24, 2021 08:19 PM (8SSHh)

273 The other guy that I'm always surprised is a good actor is William Defoe. He seems like he gets roles where he'd fall into the "I'm William Defoe" trap, but he does his job pretty well.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 08:20 PM (BGev3)

274 ||My biggest problem with the unrealistic nature of the Conjuring movies is, Very Farmiga really touches me in my no-no square, but Lorraine Warren.... eeesh! Heck no.||

ACTING!

Oh, somebody mentioned "Bringing Up Baby" as their favorite Cary Grant and/or Kate Hepburn role, so I wanted to mention:

"Monkey Business"

Not the Marx brothers one, but Cary Grant and Ginger Rogers and a very silly "youth formula". Howard Hawks. Possibly my favorite Rogers' role.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:20 PM (dhFCT)

275 "Since you mentioned it, you should do a review of The Lion in Winter. I really like that film though for personal reasons."

To me, The Lion in Winter is the perfect film. Acting, direction, sets, costumes, music. Just perfect.

Posted by: Tuna at July 24, 2021 08:20 PM (gLRfa)

276 270 No mention of Ben Hur? The famous one with Charleton Heston was the third time it had been released to theaters, iirc.
Posted by: junior at July 24, 2021 07:52 PM (PTw5h

see the asshole at 92

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 08:20 PM (YK4Qh)

277 ||Or to put it another way, "Nobody knows anybody. Not that well."||

They took his hair, Tommy. Jesus, that's strange, why would they do that?
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:16 PM (dhFCT)

You are so goddam smart, except you ain't.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:20 PM (5ieoM)

278 I am so not worthy

Wife just now bugging me to come into the other room.

And I'm all "wish she would quit bugging me, what does she want this time..."

She gave me Coffee.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 08:20 PM (49Exr)

279 ||Or to put it another way, "Nobody knows anybody. Not that well."||

They took his hair, Tommy. Jesus, that's strange, why would they do that?
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:16 PM (dhFCT)

You are so goddam smart, except you ain't.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:20 PM (5ieoM)||

Are you givin' me the high hat?

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:21 PM (dhFCT)

280 "I really like that film though for personal reasons."

Now I'm curious. What personal reasons?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 08:21 PM (49Exr)

281 Mentioned before so bear with me, but my favorite element of the Berserker stories were the investigators that would land on the planet, look around, and then blast off at faster than light until they were just out of range of the light that had reflected off of the planet, and then they'd watch the events happen in real time.

I always thought that was a brilliant concept.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 08:21 PM (BGev3)

282 as long as the don't rehash " Caddyshack"

I'll die happy

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 08:21 PM (YK4Qh)

283 OH YES

Posted by: Lizzy



Here is what I was watching about the Viking Berserker thing:

https://youtu.be/_rspDH0UJvs

Mel says his very first idea about movies when he was 16 was this one.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2021 08:22 PM (Atzlh)

284 "Monkey Business"

Not the Marx brothers one, but Cary Grant and Ginger Rogers and a very silly "youth formula". Howard Hawks. Possibly my favorite Rogers' role.
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:20 PM (dhFCT)

Hmmm, I don't think I've seen it. I don't really have an appreciation for Rogers. To me she's just sorta that dancing girl who worked with Astaire, and I know that's not a fair summary of her career.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:22 PM (5ieoM)

285 "" The Wind and the Lion" was not a particularly good movie but the "Marine" sequence was one of the best scenes ever filmed."

Great score though

Posted by: Tuna at July 24, 2021 08:22 PM (gLRfa)

286 267 When you're a less convincing actor in all your roles than Christopher Walken, who somehow ISN'T Christopher Walken in his roles even though he still very much is, you're not a very good actor.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 08:16 PM (BGev3)

I want to say when I really became more aware of him was in Sarah Plain and Tall. I maybe had seen him in a few things. But that kind of was in the age for me. I was at age for reading that book in school and the movie had come out the same year reading it.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 24, 2021 08:23 PM (CNz6Q)

287 Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:20 PM (5ieoM)||

Are you givin' me the high hat?
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:21 PM (dhFCT)

Egad, I just watched that a couple months ago, and I have so many movies around here I haven't watched yet, but I might give that one another spin.

So much great. Damn near perfect film.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:24 PM (5ieoM)

288 Has everyone from the MoMe stumbled back to their rooms and ready to shit talk about how nice BlueBell and Weasel are?

Posted by: Draki at July 24, 2021 08:24 PM (Nt0u1)

289 I know I am guilty of something, as are we all but I wish specifics so I can improve.
Posted by: HouseTroll

Try singing.

Posted by: JT at July 24, 2021 08:24 PM (arJlL)

290 The Berserker books will never get made - because of the ideology. I loved those books. The basic premise rocks - when racial survival is the bet, nobody worries too much about right and wrong. Or a lot of other shit. Results are all that matters.

That shit ain't coming out of Hollywood. The Tom Cruise flick with time travel wouldn't even come out now.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 24, 2021 08:25 PM (huES0)

291 "I want to say when I really became more aware of him was in Sarah Plain and Tall. I maybe had seen him in a few things. But that kind of was in the age for me. I was at age for reading that book in school and the movie had come out the same year reading it."

That was a nice little film.

Posted by: Tuna at July 24, 2021 08:25 PM (gLRfa)

292 I first saw AQ when I was in my teens (a long, long time ago) and walked out in love with Bogart and Hepburn. I have zero idea if they enjoyed being with each other while making this film but they sure sold that they did to me. What they managed to gin up on screen is some remarkably intimate and reaffirming about life and love. Years later I came to appreciate John Huston, he was quite the rascal but such a brilliant artist .His steady hand, for me, is what propelled AQ into something more, something not just for all ages but for the ages.

My recent watches are American themes.

The Last Picture Show. If this was music it would be a nocturne, the complexity of the character relationships come in whispers so to speak.

The Godfather. For a fairly long movie I was struck at how quickly and nimbly it moved along. If this isn't a perfect movie I don't what is; I even enjoyed Keaton's character.

Ford v Ferrari. It epic story of egos, admiration earned, and doing guys doing what guys do best when left alone: being guys. How the race scenes are filmed and edited is just flat out breath taking.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 24, 2021 08:25 PM (ESLBo)

293 another really bad remake Is "Washington Square"

"The Heiress" rehash

some flicks are so perfect, they just should off the list

but NOOOOO

Posted by: REDACTED at July 24, 2021 08:25 PM (YK4Qh)

294 I love AQ. One of my favorites. Love Bogie in everything, even the bad ones. Hepburn is always hit or miss with me. Hated Bringing Up Baby, Loved Philadelphia Story, loved Adams Rib, hated Pat and Mike.

Posted by: megthered at July 24, 2021 08:26 PM (Kp6jj)

295 They took his hair, Tommy. Jesus, that's strange, why would they do that?
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:16 PM (dhFCT)

You are so goddam smart, except you ain't.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:20 PM (5ieoM)||

Are you givin' me the high hat?
Posted by: moviegique

Well, for starters, we're gonna kill him.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at July 24, 2021 08:26 PM (tjZg/)

296 Not the Marx brothers one, but Cary Grant and Ginger Rogers and a very silly "youth formula". Howard Hawks.
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Marilyn Monroe too. I thought it was good.

Posted by: dartist at July 24, 2021 08:26 PM (+ya+t)

297 Ford v Ferrari. It epic story of egos, admiration earned, and doing guys doing what guys do best when left alone: being guys. How the race scenes are filmed and edited is just flat out breath taking.

**

See Rush if you havent.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 08:26 PM (BGev3)

298 ||So much great. Damn near perfect film.||

Not bad for their second feature. (Presuming you don't count "Crime Wave", which I don't.)

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:27 PM (dhFCT)

299 ||Marilyn Monroe too. I thought it was good.||

As Charles Coburn says after telling her to go find someone to type up the report for him:

"Anyone can type."

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:28 PM (dhFCT)

300 There actuallly is kind of a confluence of Clint Eastwood and "The African Queen".

Clint made a movie called "White Hunter, Black Heart", where he sort of plays John Huston in Africa, prior to the making of "African Queen".
The movies ends as they are starting to film "African Queen".

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at July 24, 2021 08:29 PM (tjZg/)

301 295 They took his hair, Tommy. Jesus, that's strange, why would they do that?
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:16 PM (dhFCT)

You are so goddam smart, except you ain't.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:20 PM (5ieoM)||

Are you givin' me the high hat?
Posted by: moviegique

Well, for starters, we're gonna kill him.||

The old man's still an artist with the Thompson.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:29 PM (dhFCT)

302 She gave me Coffee.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur

a stimulant at night!
*wink wink nudge nudge*

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 24, 2021 08:29 PM (oEn12)

303 I want to say when I really became more aware of him was in Sarah Plain and Tall. I maybe had seen him in a few things.
Posted by: Buzzion

Speaking of that film. Glenn Close always seems to be playing Glenn Close to me - no matter the role or subject matter. She always gives off the Greenwich Connecticut vibe to me.

But, truth be told, I'm not very familiar with all of her films.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 24, 2021 08:30 PM (6WCwE)

304 I say..let Antfia destroy Hollywood then...well....that's a secret.

This is movie.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 24, 2021 08:30 PM (ptq0O)

305 Best Stephen King movie

The Dead Zone

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 08:31 PM (2DOZq)

306 Hard to beat the bed scene with Marilyn in Niagara.

Posted by: dartist at July 24, 2021 08:32 PM (+ya+t)

307 Another nifty Bogart, which I haven't seen mentioned yet in the thread, is IN A LONELY PLACE. Well worth a watch.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 24, 2021 08:34 PM (JzDjf)

308 I thought it was agreed that The Outlaw Josey Wales is his best movie.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 08:07 PM (2DOZq)


Well duh. Maybe you have to have southern roots, but..

yeah. Fuck yeah.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 24, 2021 08:34 PM (F0YaR)

309 Checked out an Us magazine at the beauty salon today. I had no idea Jen and Ben were a thing again. I'm really out of the loop.

Posted by: Tuna at July 24, 2021 08:34 PM (gLRfa)

310 Not the Marx brothers one, but Cary Grant and Ginger Rogers and a very silly "youth formula". Howard Hawks.
-----------
Marilyn Monroe too. I thought it was good.
Posted by: dartist at July 24, 2021 08:26 PM (+ya+t)

Just ordered a copy. No Bluray available. Marilyn is on the cover... facing sideways. Everyone else gets secondary billing.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:34 PM (5ieoM)

311 Now I'm curious. What personal reasons?


If my in-laws were Medieval Royalty, they would be that family. I inwardly cringe-chuckle every time I watch it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 24, 2021 08:35 PM (hwaFC)

312 another gold mine never to be dug out: H Beam Piper
Lone Star Planet
Cosmic Computer
Little Fuzzy et seq (could be a whole series/universe)
(all the other great stories i'm drawing a blank on)

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 24, 2021 08:35 PM (HQA9W)

313 I'm not sure Josey Wales is Eastwood's best western.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 24, 2021 08:35 PM (0nJL1)

314
Are you givin' me the high hat?
Posted by: moviegique

Well, for starters, we're gonna kill him.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet


Albert Finney striding across the set firing the machine gun of infinite capacity was a great scene.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 24, 2021 08:35 PM (UNthw)

315 Clint made a movie called "White Hunter, Black Heart", where he sort of plays John Huston in Africa, prior to the making of "African Queen".
The movies ends as they are starting to film "African Queen".

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at July 24, 2021 08:29 PM (tjZg/)


Yup, and that movie sucked.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 24, 2021 08:36 PM (F0YaR)

316 Too lazy to look upthread. Do we have an AAR (After-Action Report for you cake-eating civilians) on the NoVaMoMe yet?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 24, 2021 08:36 PM (CcOog)

317 Did Leo say that too?

Nay, I said that.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 24, 2021 08:36 PM (hwaFC)

318 I'm not sure Josey Wales is Eastwood's best western.
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I'll disagree there. Which is better?

Posted by: dartist at July 24, 2021 08:37 PM (+ya+t)

319 "Too lazy to look upthread. Do we have an AAR (After-Action Report for you cake-eating civilians) on the NoVaMoMe yet?"

I assume it's being edited as we speak.

Posted by: Tuna at July 24, 2021 08:37 PM (gLRfa)

320 Do horses have knees?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 24, 2021 08:38 PM (hwaFC)

321 I assume it's being edited as we speak.

Posted by: Tuna at July 24, 2021 08:37 PM (gLRfa)


Outstanding. I'm going to have another beer then.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 24, 2021 08:38 PM (CcOog)

322 ||Just ordered a copy. No Bluray available. Marilyn is on the cover... facing sideways. Everyone else gets secondary billing.||

Yep. She has a small but not minor role, but she dominates the current promo for that movie.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:38 PM (dhFCT)

323 Best Stephen King movie

The Dead Zone

Posted by: Just a side note



Yep. Fantastic.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2021 08:39 PM (Atzlh)

324 The crimes have been changed to protect the reporter.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 24, 2021 08:39 PM (ptq0O)

325 "a scene I'd just seen extracted from the new Marvel Black Widow movie"

My fav Widow scene is when she tricks the God of Tricks.

But I'm HAPPY that Scarlett ran her mouth about sexualization and equal pay just before Widow came out. Following the Brie Larson model, she was telegraphing that Widow was going to be a flop, don't waste your money.

Thank you, Sweetie!

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 08:40 PM (49Exr)

326 GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter

Well, can't be as exciting as your kilt wearing.

The word from bluebell is Omertà{/i].

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 24, 2021 08:40 PM (u82oZ)

327 ||Just ordered a copy. No Bluray available. Marilyn is on the cover... facing sideways. Everyone else gets secondary billing.||

Yep. She has a small but not minor role, but she dominates the current promo for that movie.
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:38 PM (dhFCT)

I'm of the opinion that Monroe, in still photos is just sort of hot and sexy, but live action, she lights up everything she does in ways that go way beyond good looks.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:40 PM (5ieoM)

328 I'm not sure Josey Wales is Eastwood's best western.
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 24, 2021 08:35 PM (0nJL1)

I wouldn't question if someone preferred any of his others. Unforgiven probably for some. If I had to pick one that was close it would be Joe Kidd. Again I rate my movies by how many times I will watch them.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 08:41 PM (tL/BP)

329 >>>Too lazy to look upthread. Do we have an AAR (After-Action Report for you cake-eating civilians) on the NoVaMoMe yet?
~~~~~

Made it out alive!

It was terrific. Great food, lots of morons, entertainment, great venue, prizes, gifts, booze--what's not to love?

Bluebell and Weasel outdid themselves again.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 24, 2021 08:41 PM (9GRhC)

330 All this talk of Lion movies. The best one was Secondhand Lions.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 24, 2021 08:41 PM (CcOog)

331 Okay, not a movie although it was part of a documentary. This is Joan Baez at home, in 1978, with a young Ricky Skaggs. She does her best Dylan imitation at one point

https://youtu.be/rxzJRZI8100

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 24, 2021 08:41 PM (YynYJ)

332 I like all of the spaghetti ones for their fun, but probably Unforgiven for the story. Two different types of "best" if I'm measuring.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 08:42 PM (BGev3)

333 True Story staring leeches: First! hospital i w*rked in after i got out of Ft Sam was a teaching hospital, and they did all sorts of cutting edge stuff.

they had medicinal leeches, used to encourage the re-connection of blood vessels smaller than what could be sewn: tissue flaps, traumatic amputation restoration surgeries, etc. no one in pharmacy wanted to deal with them, so i became the "Leech Wrangler" and local expert. one time ICU complained that the leeches weren't "w*rking", so i was sent up to give a block of instruction on "Leeches 101". they were kept in a special salt solution, under refrigeration, so hibernating.

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 24, 2021 08:42 PM (HQA9W)

334 But I'm HAPPY that Scarlett ran her mouth about sexualization and equal pay just before Widow came out. Following the Brie Larson model, she was telegraphing that Widow was going to be a flop, don't waste your money.

Thank you, Sweetie!
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 08:40 PM (49Exr)

I've "seen" the movie without having to see it, which is often how I manage big budget crep. Especially Dinsey product. All the modern Star Wars movies, I know them from watching/reading others, and recently finally saw The Farce Awakens. Not a single moment of the film was unfamiliar, all the beats were known, and the best part for me was watching the scene play out been Han Solo and his son. I've seen SO many memes on teh internets. It was funny as heck seeing it in the actual movie.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:44 PM (5ieoM)

335 "The best one was Secondhand Lions."

Can't argue with that:

https://tinyurl.com/c323kdpf

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 24, 2021 08:44 PM (49Exr)

336 "Well, can't be as exciting as your kilt wearing."
One day again...but I'm going to have to get a new kilt. I've lost about 65 lbs and they fall down around my ankles now...and no one (well, no one except Mrs Hades maybe) wants to see that.
"It was terrific. Great food, lots of morons, entertainment, great venue, prizes, gifts, booze--what's not to love?



Bluebell and Weasel outdid themselves again. "

Fantastic. Wish I could have been there.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 24, 2021 08:44 PM (CcOog)

337 I saw African Queen when it was first run, in a drive-in theater when I was ten. Have not seen it since, but still remember some of the scenes clearly.

Posted by: Ruthless at July 24, 2021 08:44 PM (HA5IU)

338 African Queen... HATED IT. Bogy turns into a wimp once his booze is taken away?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 24, 2021 08:44 PM (oHd/0)

339 All this talk of Lion movies. The best one was Secondhand Lions.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 24, 2021 08:41 PM (CcOog)

Paper Lion

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:46 PM (5ieoM)

340 Yeah, Secondhand Lions is in my top 10 favorite list.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 08:46 PM (BGev3)

341 No love for Gran Torino? Clint Eastwood as that one uncle we all have.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 24, 2021 08:46 PM (mf+Bs)

342 ||I'm of the opinion that Monroe, in still photos is just sort of hot and sexy, but live action, she lights up everything she does in ways that go way beyond good looks.||

Same here. I got the appeal but never really understood the intensity until about four years ago(!) when I saw "Some Like It Hot" on the big screen. The Flower (who, granted, was just a teen at the time) also "got it" then.

We have a saying primarily coined for Mae West: "She's a walking Hay's Office violation."

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:46 PM (dhFCT)

343 Favorite Bogey movie is Casablanca. Maltese Falcon is fun, but so many things that require a willful suspension of disbelief. Sam Spade would have been in a jail cell in the first 5 minutes without it. Thin Man was a much better movie.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 24, 2021 08:46 PM (CcOog)

344 class was simple: "pull out the # of leeches you're going to use, and put them in individual med cups. only do two or three at a time." let them warm up, and, when they are ready, place them as desired on the patient."

"how do we know if they are ready?"

"pass your hand just over the top of the cup: if they reach for it, put them on the patient in the desired location (downstream of the connection to be made). when they fall off, they're done, and use tweezers to drop them into the sharps box."

i LOVED that j*b!

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 24, 2021 08:47 PM (HQA9W)

345 No love for Gran Torino? Clint Eastwood as that one uncle we all have.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 24, 2021 08:46 PM (mf+Bs)

---
last movie we went to a theater to see... SO awesome.

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 24, 2021 08:48 PM (HQA9W)

346 No love for Gran Torino? Clint Eastwood as that one uncle we all have.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 24, 2021 08:46 PM (mf+Bs)

I AM that one uncle.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 24, 2021 08:48 PM (CcOog)

347 "pass your hand just over the top of the cup: if they reach for it, put them on the patient in the desired location (downstream of the connection to be made). when they fall off, they're done, and use tweezers to drop them into the sharps box."

i LOVED that j*b!
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 24, 2021 08:47 PM (HQA9W)

So, you loved a job with blood sucking leeches?

So, IRS now?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 24, 2021 08:48 PM (oHd/0)

348 Same here. I got the appeal but never really understood the intensity until about four years ago(!) when I saw "Some Like It Hot" on the big screen. The Flower (who, granted, was just a teen at the time) also "got it" then.

We have a saying primarily coined for Mae West: "She's a walking Hay's Office violation."
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:46 PM (dhFCT)

"Seven Year Itch" did it for me.

It's often hard for me to watch infidelity in movies, but in that one I'm yelling at the screen "DO IT! ARE YOU INSANE??? DOOOOOOO IIIIIIITTTTTT!!!!"

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:49 PM (5ieoM)

349 So, you loved a job with blood sucking leeches?

So, IRS now?
Posted by: Romeo13

The leeches have more honor and dignity.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 24, 2021 08:49 PM (6WCwE)

350 Sorry to hear that you know nothing about Technicolor in 1950. To film this on location in Africa required them to build a film processing lab in the jungle because color film needed to be processed immediately back then or wash out completely. I personally think this was once of the greatest films of all-time. The best line I ever heard in a movie was when Charlie tries to explain his drunkenness the night before as just "human nature," Rose answers, "Human nature is what we are put in this world to rise above." Few actresses could say that line with an air of authority, Hepburn could. It was the very theme of the movie that it represented, a stern and determined will to succeed in a seemingly hopeless quest.

Posted by: Starbanker at July 24, 2021 08:50 PM (kf3l1)

351 Sahara is such an underrated War movie, I even like the updated HBO version. Maybe because I love the Tank.

Blackout a Russian movie about everywhere loses power and contact with the outside world except a circle in Russia. I thought it was interesting concept. From reading about it, it was a Mini Series and they condensed it into a movie, still like it.

TV Series BEYOND EVIL a Korean Drama about murder that happened 20 years ago and the brother who was accused of being the murder and then becoming a cop to solve her murder, lots and lots of mystery and WTF just happened. Lost of twists and turns.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 24, 2021 08:50 PM (dKiJG)

352 Is it sad that I have never seen a Marilyn Monroe movie? Especially since my Aunt Mary is such a huge fan of hers.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 24, 2021 08:50 PM (CcOog)

353 "a scene I'd just seen extracted from the new Marvel Black Widow movie"

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I will go see Black Widow because I love going to the theater for films. After being locked out out of life for a year I watch nearly anything that hits the theaters right now.

As for wanting to see Black Widow for what it brings to the table, that is a zero for me. I am completely exhausted by the Marvel Universe thing. From me the sell by date has long expired.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 24, 2021 08:50 PM (ESLBo)

354 Pale Rider was a welcome relief after all those "Any Which Way You Can" type movies Clint was doing.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 24, 2021 08:50 PM (qH6FZ)

355 I AM that one uncle.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter

Every guy in my family is to one degree or another. Some of the ladies too.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 24, 2021 08:50 PM (mf+Bs)

356 No love for Gran Torino? Clint Eastwood as that one uncle we all have.
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I'm kinda proud my family thinks I'm that guy, lol.

Posted by: dartist at July 24, 2021 08:50 PM (+ya+t)

357 I think I saw on another site that Nickolas Cage was in tax trouble, and as part of his settlement he has to take whatever work is offered?

Was that a joke? It does seem he's everywhere, lately.

Posted by: artemis at July 24, 2021 08:51 PM (AwPyG)

358 No love for Gran Torino? Clint Eastwood as that one uncle we all have.
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I'm kinda proud my family thinks I'm that guy, lol.
Posted by: dartist

It's liberating to get a few years on - we pretty much don't give a shit what we say anymore.

"Oh Jeeze Dad. . . . "

Posted by: Tonypete at July 24, 2021 08:52 PM (6WCwE)

359 I'm kinda proud my family thinks I'm that guy, lol.

***

Ha. My extended family got together and made this comparison regarding me in a joking way, and I was honored and told them as much and thank you.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 08:52 PM (BGev3)

360 @352

Some Like it Hot is pretty good.

Posted by: artemis at July 24, 2021 08:53 PM (AwPyG)

361 "Is it sad that I have never seen a Marilyn Monroe movie? Especially since my Aunt Mary is such a huge fan of hers."

Very sad. She was something.

Posted by: Tuna at July 24, 2021 08:53 PM (gLRfa)

362 He was, but that is the very locus of my problem. He
acted up a storm. He was great. But overlaid on all that was a basic
feeling that this was not quite a human being who was doing all that. So
I wanted to laugh my guts out about the strawberries, instead of being
caught up in the drama.
Posted by: Splunge at July 24, 2021 07:46 PM (S7/a+)


Bogart in his portrayals was they guy who didn't fit. Not sure if that was intentional but it was what he was: a shifty guy in a bad business who did the the right thing, a coward in a hero's spot, the heel who saves the day.
Rick in Casablanca was a hoodlum and a hero.

Complicated.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 24, 2021 08:53 PM (HG00O)

363 No love for Gran Torino? Clint Eastwood as that one uncle we all have.
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My uncle sold aluminum siding and windows. I can assure you that Tin Men is a documentary with all the real great parts not included.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 24, 2021 08:53 PM (ESLBo)

364 I think I saw on another site that Nickolas Cage was in tax trouble, and as part of his settlement he has to take whatever work is offered?

Was that a joke? It does seem he's everywhere, lately.
Posted by: artemis at July 24, 2021 08:51 PM (AwPyG)

RLM boys talk about it in their latest vid. Apparently the new movie, "Pig," is a great film. Jay says the best movie he's seen since "The Witch."

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:53 PM (5ieoM)

365 Fvck the Hayes Code. That crap ruined Hollywood.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 24, 2021 08:53 PM (KAi1n)

366 ||It's often hard for me to watch infidelity in movies, but in that one I'm yelling at the screen "DO IT! ARE YOU INSANE??? DOOOOOOO IIIIIIITTTTTT!!!!"||

lol

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:53 PM (dhFCT)

367 I like Unforgiven as much or more than Josey Wales, The Good The Bad And The Ugly as well. Pale Rider and High Plains Drifter are also very good.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 24, 2021 08:54 PM (0nJL1)

368 >>Best Stephen King movie

The Dead Zone



Shawshank Redemption

Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2021 08:54 PM (bDqIh)

369 "Is it sad that I have never seen a Marilyn Monroe movie? Especially since my Aunt Mary is such a huge fan of hers."

Very sad. She was something.
Posted by: Tuna

After I die and am sitting in the orientation room, one of the questions I'm going to ask St. Peter is what really happened to Marilyn. Now that I think about it, I could just ask her.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 24, 2021 08:54 PM (6WCwE)

370 ||I will go see Black Widow because I love going to the theater for films. After being locked out out of life for a year I watch nearly anything that hits the theaters right now.||

I basically only review movies I've seen in the theater, last year excepted.

||As for wanting to see Black Widow for what it brings to the table, that is a zero for me. I am completely exhausted by the Marvel Universe thing. From me the sell by date has long expired.||

Me in 2013.

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:55 PM (dhFCT)

371 Best Stephen King movie

The Dead Zone



Shawshank Redemption
Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2021 08:54 PM (bDqIh)

I can see that argument but DZ still my favorite.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 08:56 PM (2DOZq)

372 After I die and am sitting in the orientation room, one of the questions I'm going to ask St. Peter is what really happened to Marilyn. Now that I think about it, I could just ask her.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 24, 2021 08:54 PM (6WCwE)

What if she says "I don't really know. You'd have to ask JFK." Then you'd both be out of luck.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:56 PM (5ieoM)

373 Hang Em High is an underrated Eastwood classic.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 24, 2021 08:56 PM (mf+Bs)

374 So, you loved a job with blood sucking leeches?



So, IRS now?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 24, 2021 08:48 PM (oHd/0)

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naw, i was also handling C-2 narcotics. pharmacy generally attracts Betas, and, as the resident token Alpha male, all the icky j*bs came to me: Infantry types and leeches just naturally go together.

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at July 24, 2021 08:56 PM (HQA9W)

375 "Some Like it Hot is pretty good."
If you can tolerate an hour of Jack Lemmon mugging for the camera. Watch "How to Marry a Millionaire" instead.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 24, 2021 08:56 PM (qH6FZ)

376 ||Sorry to hear that you know nothing about Technicolor in 1950.||

Of all my shortcomings, this may be my favorite.

|| To film this on location in Africa required them to build a film processing lab in the jungle because color film needed to be processed immediately back then or wash out completely.||

So you're saying I'm right: It was washed out, just not as bad as it would've been had they not built a lab in Africa?

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 08:57 PM (dhFCT)

377 @375

Yeah, that's better.

Posted by: artemis at July 24, 2021 08:58 PM (AwPyG)

378 @372

heh

Posted by: artemis at July 24, 2021 08:58 PM (AwPyG)

379 "Some Like it Hot is pretty good."
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If you can tolerate an hour of Jack Lemmon mugging for the camera. Watch "How to Marry a Millionaire" instead.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 24, 2021 08:56 PM (qH6FZ)

Thank you. She was sweet and genuine, and I don't really recall how the whole thing ended, but assume he ended up with her. Which he didn't deserve.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 24, 2021 08:59 PM (5ieoM)

380 Shawshank Redemption
Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2021 08:54 PM (bDqIh)

You did remind me though that the Green Mile had the biggest screw up to me that I couldn't ignore. They had the real murderer of the kids in the same death row as Coffey and no one noticed ? Even though he worked as a handy man for the parents?

Posted by: Just a side note at July 24, 2021 08:59 PM (2DOZq)

381 ONT is a go

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 24, 2021 09:00 PM (mf+Bs)

382 ||375 "Some Like it Hot is pretty good."
If you can tolerate an hour of Jack Lemmon mugging for the camera. Watch "How to Marry a Millionaire" instead.||

SLiH never really grabbed me till I saw it in the theater.

https://tinyurl.com/tjrs86ep

Seeing it on a double-bill with HtMaM was awesome:

https://tinyurl.com/p246zetx

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 09:00 PM (dhFCT)

383 One can hardly grasp the overall demand for experts with specific knowledge about the technical requirements and other details of 1950s technicolor processing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 09:00 PM (BGev3)

384 "If you can tolerate an hour of Jack Lemmon mugging for the camera. Watch "How to Marry a Millionaire""

That's a good movie. Becall and Grable we're good but Marilyn stole the show. The pairing with David Wayne was very cute.

Posted by: Tuna at July 24, 2021 09:01 PM (gLRfa)

385 ||Thank you. She was sweet and genuine, and I don't really recall how the whole thing ended, but assume he ended up with her. Which he didn't deserve.||

No, it was Tony Curtis who ends up with her.

Jack Lemmon ends up with the rich dude. =P

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 09:01 PM (dhFCT)

386 TonyPete @ 369- You do know your 'work' will be graded and you assignment awarded based on pass/fail?

Posted by: Eromero at July 24, 2021 09:01 PM (0OP+5)

387 "Remakes always suck."

Watch the first two versions of "The Maltese Falcon" (same title in 1931 and "Satan Met a Lady" in 1936) and get back to me.

Posted by: Carlos V at July 24, 2021 09:03 PM (Ap+cR)

388 Stainless Steel Rat by Harry Harrison
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated we all know it


I am not sure Berserkers would be a good movie, though I suppose it could be done with a lot of cutting. The Retief book I would like to see would be "Greylorn" which I liked a lot more than I should have
Harrison said that he regularly got paid for options on The Stainless Steel Rat but it never got made. He said it was odd to get paid repeatedly for the same story.
I'd rather see a Deathworld movie made, even if it looked like Logan's Run

There are some good books that could be made, Murray Leinster had a couple that would be fabulous: Creatures of the Abyss, Pirates of Ersatz, and Griks Bear Gifts would be fantastic.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 24, 2021 09:03 PM (HG00O)

389 "Complete the sequence, Mr. President."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 24, 2021 09:08 PM (vuisn)

390 Thank you. She was sweet and genuine, and I don't really recall how the whole thing ended, but assume he ended up with her. Which he didn't deserve.
Posted by: BurtTC

I don't know about sweet and genuine. She knew she could manipulate men with her sex appeal. And she used it. She used men, men used her. Really, not a very good life, and she was at times very miserable.
Somebody up above said she could light up a scene in a movie by being in it. That is very true. She came across as very sexual and charismatic on the movie screen (or on a TV now).
You have to feel sorry for her, because she was very self-destructive. She tried to commit suicide several times. Not sure if the time she died she committed suicide or one of the Kennedy underlings did her in, to wipe her out of the picture.
Her last picture was, appropriately enough, with Clarke Gable (also his last movie) was "The Misfits". Also with Montgomery Clift, the constant tormented Hollywood homosexual. Ho-hum.
Apparently Gable and Monroe became friends, and he really tried to help her. She was a very troubled woman.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at July 24, 2021 09:08 PM (tjZg/)

391 Well thanks for another great Movie thread moviegique, appreciate it.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 24, 2021 09:08 PM (qH6FZ)

392 I love Some Like it Hot and How To Marry a Millionaire.

I saw SLiH in my early teens and the whole ending went right over my head.

A few years later I got it. The whole scene is so perfect - Joey Brown as a clueless (or not - it is mystery) rich sugar daddy and Jack Lemmon slyly capitulating to the whole situation. So perfect.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 24, 2021 09:10 PM (ESLBo)

393 Thanks for coming by, lowandslow!

||A few years later I got it. The whole scene is so perfect - Joey Brown as a clueless (or not - it is mystery) rich sugar daddy and Jack Lemmon slyly capitulating to the whole situation. So perfect.||

The movie is largely sympathetic to what women endure, but the bit where Lemmon turns instant golddigger is priceless, and perhaps also sympathetic to females. ;-)

Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2021 09:15 PM (dhFCT)

394 I think part of why Berserkers could work is that they don't have to have Transformers-style confusing robot battles. All they have to focus on is how the humans are handling before and after. Mystery and suspense, with fairly inexpensive sci-fi sets, but most of the focus on character development and why this particular situation matters.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates you take this brand new key at July 24, 2021 09:22 PM (BGev3)

395 The best Berserker story to adapt would probably be "Goodlife."

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 24, 2021 09:56 PM (QZxDR)

396 The scene in which the German captain (admirably played by the stern-faced Peter Bull) marries the condemned Charlie and Rose is a comic gem. "By the authority vested in me by Kaiser Wilhelm the Second, I now pronounce you man and wife. Proceed with the execution."

Posted by: Paco at July 24, 2021 10:03 PM (1Jm+u)

397 another gold mine never to be dug out: H Beam Piper
Lone Star Planet
Cosmic Computer
Little Fuzzy et seq (could be a whole series/universe)
(all the other great stories i'm drawing a blank on)

The Paratime Police could provide an infinite number of stories. The advanced race develops a way to travel to alternate timelines, uses it as a way to get resources for their timeline exhaused of resources. They use deceit to trade with other timelines, and the Paratime Police enforce the Secret.

The final story in the line is Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen, where a PA State Policeman Calvin Morrison is accidentally picked up by their alt-time machines and dumped in another timeline PA. It is a surprisingly complex storyline that never feels like it.

Omnilingual is one of my favorites. A short story about a female Linguist on an expedition to the extinct civilization on Mars who sticks to her idea that she will find a way to read the material they find. The enemy is more carping colleagues and even the doubt of her friends, and the way the problem is solved is great. The story free online.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2021 12:18 AM (EJbIh)

398 Hepburn would reprise the part in a sorta-kinda way with John Wayne in "Rooster Cogburn".

Posted by: Matt Noto at July 25, 2021 12:42 AM (ZaYq5)

399 As others, far ,ore astute yjsm I hsvr characterized Ms. Hepburn. "she displayed the full gamay of acting abilities from A-B." Far too over rated.

The African Queen remains a slow trip down a malaria infested river. Boggie deserved better, but he will be remembered for so many great roles/

Posted by: Betsy at July 25, 2021 12:49 AM (EcD5Y)

400 Thank you, thank you, thank you, for the hypothetical Tom Servo line about the music! One of my favorite films but the music editing was too often slapped together with 10 seconds consideration.

Posted by: aawlberninf350 at July 25, 2021 01:58 AM (JcnFx)

401 312: "Another gold mine never to be dug out: H Beam Piper / 'Lone Star Planet'
The Atlanta Radio Theatre Co. has a two-and-a-half audio adaptation, though.

Posted by: RNB at July 25, 2021 04:21 PM (DjjZJ)

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