France Will Require Vaccine Passports for Everyday Life; If You Get Caught in a Cafe or Restaurant Without One, You Can Be Prosecuted and Sent to Prison

Coming soon to a fascist country near you.

French President Emmanuel Macron said on Monday that COVID-19 vaccine passports would soon be required for people to visit nonessential places like restaurants and tourist attractions.

Macron said the new policy would start in August, Agence France-Presse reported, citing Macron's televised address.

The country will be using a "health passport" program in which people can share a QR code or certificate with establishments to show they are vaccinated against COVID-19, recently recovered from the virus, or have had a recent negative COVID-19 test.

"If we do not act today, the number of cases will continue to increase," Macron said in the address, according to France 24.

...

Just over 36% of France's population is fully vaccinated against COVID-19, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

There were 1,260 new coronavirus cases in the country on Monday, France 24 reported.

And yes, you'll go to jail if you attempt to live a normal life without your internal passport.

People unable to present a valid health pass risk up to six months in prison and a fine of up to 10,000 (8,500), according to the draft text of the law, while owners of "establishments welcoming the public" who fail to check patrons' passes could go to jail for a year and be hit with a 45,000 fine.

Noted Authoritarianism-Supporting Anti-Authoritarian AllahPundit just came in his pants.

People are asking, what about children who are too young to safely get vaccinated?

While 66% of French adults have received one dose and 53% are fully vaccinated, the number of first doses being administered had, in common with many western countries, started slowing as the campaign came up against more vaccine-hesitant or hard-to-reach groups.

Note that that number is very different from that reported in the first article.

Boy, those French sure love watching Tucker Carlson, huh?

Two vaccine centers were "ransacked" in protest of the new fascist laws.

Vandals broke into the vaccination centre in the village of Lans-en-Vercors, near Grenoble in eastern France, on Friday night. They flooded the site using fire hoses and ransacked syringes and other equipment, according to local paper Le Dauphine' libe're'.

Anti-vaccine graffiti was found painted on the building, according to AFP, including "1940", "Vaccine = genocide", and the Cross of Lorraine, a symbol used by the French Resistance during the Second World War. The vaccination centre has since been moved to another site in the village.

On Sunday morning, a fire damaged the temporary vaccination centre in Urrugne in south-west France, near the Spanish border. The fire is being treated as arson, prosecutor Jerome Bourrier in the local town of Bayonne wrote on Twitter on Sunday.

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1 The managerial class are in a panic and lashing out. This will end the way such things always end.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 20, 2021 03:22 PM (jOcSX)

2 SCOTUS to rule on vaccine passports based on French Law in 3, 2, 1....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 20, 2021 03:22 PM (2SdPm)

3 Your papers, please! **in German accent**

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:23 PM (ZsR3z)

4 I'm sure this policy of his will be popular.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 20, 2021 03:23 PM (z5Vrg)

5 LILU DALLAS MULTIPASS.

....and first.

Posted by: reason at July 20, 2021 03:23 PM (D4mP3)

6 Guess a return to Paris is now off the table.

Oh well.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2021 03:23 PM (axyOa)

7 Crapus. Flying to France next month.

Sign ze papers, old man, sign ze papers!

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 20, 2021 03:24 PM (w9Wax)

8 So, who thought fascism would have a return in the 21st century?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:24 PM (LvTSG)

9 Your papers, please! **in German accent**
Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:23 PM (ZsR3z)


Papier bitte!
**clicks heels**

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2021 03:24 PM (axyOa)

10 2 SCOTUS to rule on vaccine passports based on French Law in 3, 2, 1....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 20, 2021 03:22 PM (2SdPm)

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It is LE TAX!

Posted by: Jacques Roberts at July 20, 2021 03:24 PM (D4mP3)

11 I support Frenchmen who want their freedom from Macron and his goons.


CALL ME NEVERVAXXER!

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 20, 2021 03:25 PM (o2MD2)

12 Old and Busted: The Ministry of Human Resources requires you to have a barcode tattoo

New Hotness: The Facebook page of Health Services requites you have a QR Code tattoo

Posted by: Flyguy at July 20, 2021 03:25 PM (pLEy5)

13 10 2 SCOTUS to rule on vaccine passports based on French Law in 3, 2, 1....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 20, 2021 03:22 PM (2SdPm)

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It is LE TAX!
Posted by: Jacques Roberts at July 20, 2021 03:24 PM (D4mP3)

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"We have to do this for RBG."
-ACB

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:25 PM (LvTSG)

14 Guess a return to Paris is now off the table.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2021 03:23 PM (axyOa)

We had a Normandy visit in the works, but we changed our plans. I guess France doesn't need our money.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2021 03:25 PM (sQAKH)

15 Heh. "Nonessential places".

I wonder how many quatloos/francs I need to pay to be put on the Essential Places list? Pshaw, I'm sure the nonessential places list will be severely limited and fixed. What me worry?

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 20, 2021 03:25 PM (aXxgO)

16 Sean Hannity says this is terrific. Macron is officially a great American.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 20, 2021 03:26 PM (dFgCe)

17
good luck with that
they are having riots now with current restrictions

we should see what they do and learn from it

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 20, 2021 03:26 PM (bTQ72)

18 4 I'm sure this policy of his will be popular.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 20, 2021 03:23 PM (z5Vrg)

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I really can't wait to see how this plays out in the Paris No-Go Zones.

Posted by: reason at July 20, 2021 03:26 PM (D4mP3)

19 Don't worry about it there Mr Frenchie

I heard they're putting Inspector Clouseau in charge of investigating the covids

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 20, 2021 03:26 PM (7OrCI)

20 France of 1940 and 2020 stood up to fascism and vac-scism. America knelt, overwhelmingly.

A gray many Americans should hand in their rifles and save everyone some time.

Posted by: trev006 at July 20, 2021 03:27 PM (8Ex3i)

21 Open the Gulags

Or back to Liberty, Equality and Fraternity, it's your pick

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2021 03:27 PM (Cxk7w)

22 I was hoping to go to France his fall. Oh well.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 20, 2021 03:27 PM (dFgCe)

23 France, tis a silly place.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 03:27 PM (u82oZ)

24 Verse 2 of La Marseillaise seems apropos:

This horde of slaves, traitors, plotting kings,
What do they want?
For whom these vile shackles,
These long-prepared irons? (repeat)
Frenchmen, for us, oh! what an insult!
What emotions that must excite!
It is us that they dare to consider
Returning to ancient slavery!

Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 03:27 PM (VJsqe)

25 So, the Yellow Vests are going to love this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:27 PM (LvTSG)

26
Let then Eat Paste !

Posted by: POTUS - I speak Austrian at July 20, 2021 03:28 PM (bTQ72)

27 Next up, summary executions.

Posted by: Some Rat in the Swamp at July 20, 2021 03:28 PM (r1z5A)

28 Horrifying.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 20, 2021 03:28 PM (TA9CI)

29 Macron needs to do another meet 'n greet-- the first slap didn't take...

Posted by: Le Swampon at July 20, 2021 03:28 PM (6T91M)

30 I will be in the south of France in September with 8 of my girlfriends. One of my friends says she will NOT get vaccinated. I wonder if this changes her perspective.

Posted by: Czech Chick at July 20, 2021 03:28 PM (haWye)

31 13 10 It is LE TAX!
Posted by: Jacques Roberts at July 20, 2021 03:24 PM (D4mP3)
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"We have to do this for RBG."
-ACB
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:25 PM (LvTSG)
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*sniffs back a tear* I like brie.

Posted by: Kavanaugh at July 20, 2021 03:28 PM (D4mP3)

32 Yeah, good luck with that

A step too far, even for France

Posted by: Zeera at July 20, 2021 03:28 PM (0pv1a)

33 So how will this apply to refugees and tourists? Street food? mass transit?

This seems completely unworkable, except for high end restaurants and stuff.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 20, 2021 03:28 PM (toINk)

34 You bet. Why not. I'm starting to sense uprisings worldwide, and soon.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 03:28 PM (wAnMi)

35 31 *sniffs back a tear* I like brie.
Posted by: Kavanaugh at July 20, 2021 03:28 PM (D4mP3)

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Alison > Larson.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:29 PM (LvTSG)

36 I watch the Tour de France every year, because I cycle a lot and I love the scenic countryside of France. Always thought I'd want to visit there, but good grief, they went full Nazi very quickly.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 20, 2021 03:29 PM (VWp7G)

37 Willowed:

>I think I've seen the vax can cause myocarditis.

Sounds like the vax killed him. So sad.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2021 03:22 PM (5We2S)

Yes, this was known at least back as far as Oct 2020. It was on the slide deck that the FDA pushed out, where the presenter skipped over the slide, but Barnhardt captured the screenshot of it. All of the major vax side effects you hear about now were listed back then.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 20, 2021 03:29 PM (DXFDM)

38


pfffttt


unhunh

Posted by: Boat People from Africa at July 20, 2021 03:29 PM (bTQ72)

39
"If we do not act today, the number of cases will continue to increase," Macron said in the address, according to France 24.

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If you do act today, the number of cases will also continue to increase. It makes no difference.

Posted by: Semi- Literate Thug at July 20, 2021 03:29 PM (2mlpS)

40 Guess I'll be going to prison then.

Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:29 PM (XrnX7)

41 Will the black french people be able to find the vaccine passport office?

Posted by: nckate at July 20, 2021 03:29 PM (N3Z5s)

42 Time for the French to inject some political instability into their ruling government, like they were renowned for during the 18th and 19th centuries.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 20, 2021 03:29 PM (TNyrE)

43 Can someone remind me what the COVID survival rate is? You'd think it's as bad as Ebola, for crying out loud.

Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 03:30 PM (VJsqe)

44 TheJamesMadison

The Yellow Vests are a spent force. But does the French military have an Op Plan for what to do next? The No-Go zones will be tough.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 03:30 PM (u82oZ)

45 I expect this to be an unpopular position, but I think there ARE times when the government has to be able to make you get vaccinated. For example, if a highly transmissible form of Ebola developed in the US, people should not be allowed to refuse a vaccine because the consequences are so dire. Covid is not such a case, however admittedly it's a judgement call. If the government forces such a thing, and the people conclude that it wasn't necessary, then they (the government) must pay a steep price.

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:30 PM (ZsR3z)

46 France is a toilet and Macaroni is a shithead.

Hope they tear each other to pieces.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2021 03:30 PM (cljid)

47
could there be a modern guillotine?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 20, 2021 03:30 PM (bTQ72)

48 Nothing but a stimulus plan for counterfeiters.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 20, 2021 03:30 PM (lSG6C)

49 I am shocked, shocked that there are unvaccinated here!

Posted by: Captain Renault at July 20, 2021 03:31 PM (RzUqr)

50 >>>could there be a modern guillotine?
Posted by: will choose a nic later


Or a sweet new trebuchet?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 20, 2021 03:31 PM (VWp7G)

51 Will the black french people be able to find the vaccine passport office?
Posted by: nckate
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Those of us with a permanent tan need y'all wypipo to show how to get somewhere.

Shit, we can't even get ID.

Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:31 PM (XrnX7)

52 Posted by: nckate at July 20, 2021 03:29 PM (N3Z5s)

Nah. Gotta know how to use the Internet and if you are wondering I am having a friend write this for me.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at July 20, 2021 03:31 PM (FCX1Q)

53 Will these papers be in German?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2021 03:31 PM (6FeV1)

54 Had to show my vaccine passport just this morning to enter the outside door to a three story office building. Required to put the card up to a camera by the door and the door would only be unlocked once the receptionist was able to confirm that it looked real. Think most everybody was still remote working because once inside I saw her, the man escorting me, and one other office worker way down at the other end of the third floor. Utter insanity because almost nobody was there, plus I only needed to get up on the roof where there really was nobody else working.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 20, 2021 03:32 PM (mVMcL)

55 "If we do not act today, the number of cases will continue to increase," Macron said in the address, according to France 24.

Look, you ignorant dipshit. The number of cases will always and only increase. It's called "addition". Like the regular flu, year after year after year.

But "cases" are not necessarily "fatalities". In fact, the vast majority aren't. "Cases" may not even be "sniffles", you hack imbecile.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 20, 2021 03:32 PM (aXxgO)

56 Louis XIV was not available for comment.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2021 03:32 PM (a3Q+t)

57 Nah. Gotta know how to use the Internet and if you are wondering I am having a friend write this for me.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One

LOL

Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (XrnX7)

58 -Billionaire Trump friend and chairman of his inaugural fund, Tom Barrack, 74, is arrested for 'acting as an AGENT for the UAE' and trying to influence US foreign policy

What comes after the Banana Republic phase? because I think we are going full steam ahead twards it

hey! let's prosecute everyone in the former administration is one step up from
hey! let's execute everyone of the former administration

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (bTQ72)

59 As long as you can buy gas and live anywhere near an Amish community, you'll probably be able to get food in the future.

Posted by: shibumi at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (a87kG)

60 April 10, 2022

I'm giving even odds that Macron doesn't even make it that long.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (5p7BC)

61 Wyatt Earp

We has some very creative and twisted minds here and elsewhere. Think of something something new.
☣ Types. ☣
☣ Deletes. ☣

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (u82oZ)

62 IIRC, Everyone in France goes on vacation the entire month of August.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (xopIz)

63 Some wag should make the passport look like the tricolor cockade they made people wear during the revolution to show loyalty

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (toINk)

64 62 IIRC, Everyone in France goes on vacation the entire month of August.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (xopIz)

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So does Italy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (LvTSG)

65 Here's the post I referenced. You can click on the YouTube video to see the posting date and step through with , and . to find the offending slide. She gives you the timestamp.

https://tinyurl.com/5k75r2uk

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (DXFDM)

66 What does Sean "Great American" Hannity say? Please advise.

Posted by: Fat Joe-NAH of Krypton at July 20, 2021 03:34 PM (VbLoi)

67 Well, that oughta calm those protests down.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 20, 2021 03:34 PM (kTF2Z)

68 Weren't we just cheering the French a second ago for something?

Return to form.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:34 PM (LYEvi)

69 I really can't wait to see how this plays out in the Paris No-Go Zones.

My first thoughts. They will become the Really-No-Go Zones.

And apparently tourism is a non-essential component of the economy. Must be nice being a government official with a guaranteed lifelong income and benefits without any relation to the quality of life or the economy.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 20, 2021 03:34 PM (lSG6C)

70
So the French learned nothing from those recent
Paris protests??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 03:34 PM (C191H)

71 if we do not act today the number of cases will increase

DUH DUH DUH!!!

Is that all you got? What happened to deaths?

The people that would rule us are idiots.

Posted by: Once Proud country reduced to idiocracy at July 20, 2021 03:35 PM (2rY8W)

72 Hub's an electrician.

He already let his boss know if a job requires him to get the jab, he's not doing it.

Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:35 PM (XrnX7)

73 I'm no Muldoon, but I do like to dabble....

There once was a Frenchman they say,
Who went out on a fine sunny day.
When the Corona Police
Asked for his papers, please,
He turned their citations to papier mache.

Posted by: reason at July 20, 2021 03:35 PM (D4mP3)

74
I shall keep my vax passport wrapped around me dick

and I will show them my papers

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 20, 2021 03:35 PM (bTQ72)

75 For example, if a highly transmissible form of Ebola developed in the US, people should not be allowed to refuse a vaccine because the consequences are so dire.

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:30 PM (ZsR3z)

If you want a certain and agonizing death, that's no skin off my nose. By contrast, if your vaccine is at best wildly overstated and at worst harmful, the dire consequences should be on the people trying to mandate it.

In France, we see the process starting. Very quickly, people will realize it's easier to hit the workers than the buildings, and will also slow the tyranny more effectively.

Posted by: trev006 at July 20, 2021 03:35 PM (8Ex3i)

76 Two vaccine centers were "ransacked" in protest of the new fascist laws.

I support this ransacking.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 03:35 PM (Bmy3R)

77 could there be a modern guillotine?
Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 20, 2021 03:30 PM (bTQ72)


Absolutely. With new manufacturing techniques like CNC machining, they could make a super-sweet looking titanium version (anodized blue) with something like an M390 stainless blade, good for 20k necks before it needs resharpening. No cord to pull, it's got a wifi app for that.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 03:35 PM (wAnMi)

78 Heh. Notice the difference in protests?

Euro trash love them some fire bombing when they get pissed.

In the US, we complain to Ace

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 20, 2021 03:36 PM (7OrCI)

79 It's a crime to get sick, comrades!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:36 PM (XvPQV)

80 https://youtu.be/7MQ-SC9bmp4
Le Marseilles in English

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2021 03:36 PM (Cxk7w)

81 You want to know why Republicans lose? Only 168 of them signed the amicus brief that Claudia Tenney is filing with SCOTUS for the Corlett 2A Carey case coming up In the fall. Cowards.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 20, 2021 03:36 PM (qnUmv)

82 45 I expect this to be an unpopular position, but I think there ARE times when the government has to be able to make you get vaccinated. For example, if a highly transmissible form of Ebola developed in the US, people should not be allowed to refuse a vaccine because the consequences are so dire. Covid is not such a case, however admittedly it's a judgement call. If the government forces such a thing, and the people conclude that it wasn't necessary, then they (the government) must pay a steep price.
Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:30 PM (ZsR3z)

This AIN'T one of those times and Covid ain't Ebola. This is not about health, it's about power and unquestioned authority. Just like fucking gun control ain't about crime, it's about increasing the power of the state.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 20, 2021 03:36 PM (o2MD2)

83 What comes after the Banana Republic phase? because I think we are going full steam ahead twards it

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (bTQ72)

Towards it?? Do you need a camp with Vax Macht Frei on the gate before you agree that we are in it?

Posted by: trev006 at July 20, 2021 03:36 PM (8Ex3i)

84 tanned, rested, and ready for action

Posted by: Madame la Guillotine (Le Rasoir National) at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (toINk)

85 shibumi

Talk to your husband about iridium catalysts turning cellulose into car fuel. It is possible.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (u82oZ)

86 In the US, we complain to Ace
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher
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So who have you firebombed lately?

Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (XrnX7)

87 If you want a certain and agonizing death, that's no skin off my nose.
By contrast, if your vaccine is at best wildly overstated and at worst
harmful, the dire consequences should be on the people trying to mandate
it.


The key word is transmissible. I agree that if you want to die then it's your right to jump off a bridge. It's not your right to act as a vector that will lead to the deaths of others.

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (ZsR3z)

88 79 It's a crime to get sick, comrades!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:36 PM (XvPQV)

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What if you're ill-in' like a villain?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (LvTSG)

89 Tom Barrack, 74, is arrested for 'acting as an AGENT for the UAE' and trying to influence US foreign policy
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Barrack capital guy?

Posted by: Once Proud country reduced to idiocracy at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (J3f9p)

90 Absolutely. With new manufacturing techniques like CNC machining, they could make a super-sweet looking titanium version (anodized blue) with something like an M390 stainless blade, good for 20k necks before it needs resharpening. No cord to pull, it's got a wifi app for that.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead

when can we pre-order?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (oEn12)

91 Doesn't France have several No Go Zones to protect fake culture also muslin zones. Do they need a passport to eat cheesecake?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (H3kOD)

92 How long before someone manages to get access to the records system and starts selling fake passport records of vaccination? And how much will they sell it for?
(How do I get in on this action? Wait I'd have to move to France. Better than California, but not by much...)

Posted by: Janir at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (7FTeO)

93 66 What does Sean "Great American" Hannity say?

I say: dump your wife of 25 years and start doinkin' your pretty young blonde co-worker! Yay me! I am a great American! (tosses football)

Posted by: Sean Hackitty at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (Bmy3R)

94 A thank you to all the commenters at Ace. The laughs and viewpoint camaraderie keep me as close to sane as I want to be. ie "Let's do it for RBG"

Posted by: Fat Joe-NAH of Krypton at July 20, 2021 03:38 PM (VbLoi)

95 Space Jam 2 sounds...really bad.

I don't think I need to watch it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:38 PM (LvTSG)

96 Shit, we can't even get ID.

How in the hell are you on the Internet?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2021 03:38 PM (QU5/8)

97 Sneer all you like, as I recall the edifice protected by The French Castle Guards was never breached by King Arthur or any of the Grail Seekers.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2021 03:38 PM (a3Q+t)

98 Billionaire Trump friend and chairman of his inaugural fund, Tom Barrack, 74, is arrested for 'acting as an AGENT for the UAE' and trying to influence US foreign policy

What comes after the Banana Republic phase? because I think we are going full steam ahead twards it

hey! let's prosecute everyone in the former administration is one step up from
hey! let's execute everyone of the former administration
Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM
*********
And Hunter Biden is free as a bird and selling artwork for 500,000.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2021 03:38 PM (NpAcC)

99 63 Some wag should make the passport look like the tricolor cockade they made people wear during the revolution to show loyalty
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (toINk)
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I love a tall icy glass of tricolor cockade after an afternoon of yardwork...

Posted by: Brandi Love at July 20, 2021 03:38 PM (D4mP3)

100 83 What comes after the Banana Republic phase?

A Banana Split. If we're lucky.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 03:39 PM (Bmy3R)

101 Looks like Macron wasn't slapped hard enough.

Posted by: spindrift at July 20, 2021 03:39 PM (h5TKJ)

102 Say this about the French--they've rioted and caused destruction over a lot less.

Things will be getting sporty over there.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 20, 2021 03:39 PM (mR6Gs)

103 The key word is transmissible. I agree that if you want to die then it's your right to jump off a bridge. It's not your right to act as a vector that will lead to the deaths of others.
Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (ZsR3z)

If they have the very effective vaccine, that's fine by me. If they can't get the vax and fear death to the point they walk around in quarian exosuits, that is also fine.

But tie me to their neuroses? Then they'd better be some American Krogans.

Posted by: trev006 at July 20, 2021 03:39 PM (8Ex3i)

104 100 83 What comes after the Banana Republic phase?

A Banana Split. If we're lucky.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 03:39 PM (Bmy3R)

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Ice cream...sweet!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:39 PM (LvTSG)

105 Absolutely. With new manufacturing techniques like CNC machining, they could make a super-sweet looking titanium version (anodized blue) with something like an M390 stainless blade, good for 20k necks before it needs resharpening. No cord to pull, it's got a wifi app for that.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 03:35 PM (wAnMi)

Can we get the chopped off head to plop off into a stainless steel container to sale as a souvenir/fundraising type thing?

I could start a new collection...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2021 03:39 PM (cljid)

106 the thing is is, the WHY of this is fascinating.

everybody has to be vaxxed but is good having hundreds of thousands of unvaxxed illgal coming into the country.

why is the vaxx such a big thing for some?

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 03:39 PM (BRQzG)

107 Absolutely. With new manufacturing techniques like CNC machining, they could make a super-sweet looking titanium version (anodized blue) with something like an M390 stainless blade, good for 20k necks before it needs resharpening. No cord to pull, it's got a wifi app for that.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 03:35 PM (wAnMi)
-------------------

I see "Forge in Fire" ratings gold!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 20, 2021 03:39 PM (2SdPm)

108 45 I expect this to be an unpopular position, but I think there ARE times when the government has to be able to make you get vaccinated. For example, if a highly transmissible form of Ebola developed in the US, people should not be allowed to refuse a vaccine because the consequences are so dire
Posted by: pep

consequences to who? the vaccinated are protected.

BS. There is NEVER justification for mandated vaccination of a free people. And there never has been even the idea that you would vaccinate Peter to protect Paul. This shift is new, and I say again -- BS

Posted by: Madame la Guillotine (Le Rasoir National) at July 20, 2021 03:39 PM (toINk)

109 The managerial class are in a panic and lashing out. This will end the way such things always end.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 20, 2021 03:22 PM (jOcSX)

An iron boot, stamping on the face of humanity forever?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:39 PM (XvPQV)

110
A small fire at a "vaccination center" is being treated far more seriously than the intentionally-set *conflagration* of the Notre Dame cathedral.


*conflagration was one of the Wordly Wise words we learned in 7th grade

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (C191H)

111 A step too far, even for France
Posted by: Zeera at July 20, 2021 03:28 PM (0pv1a)

We'll see. They keep pushing, we keep bending over. We're getting closer to peak Orwell's boot-on-a-human-neck.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (H8QX8)

112 So who have you firebombed lately?
Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (XrnX7)

Well since I'm not a Euro and am in fact an American I guess I've missed out on the firebombing so far

Reading comprehension is a hard

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (7OrCI)

113 Buckaroo Banzai Against The World Cime League. You're in the movie, and Peter Weller is too old. You are the Blue Bla zers, the City 17 Resistance.

Posted by: The Sentient Watermelon at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (1IX05)

114 Absolutely. With new manufacturing techniques like CNC machining, they could make a super-sweet looking titanium version (anodized blue) with something like an M390 stainless blade, good for 20k necks before it needs resharpening. No cord to pull, it's got a wifi app for that.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 03:35 PM (wAnMi)

Cause the last thing you want is a dull guillotine. That could make things messy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (LYEvi)

115
(sock off)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (toINk)

116 C'est toujours la meme chose.

Posted by: Cosda at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (U7k1y)

117 Make Vichy Great Again!

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (TNyrE)

118 https://tinyurl.com/5ya5pczr

Posted by: Max Barrage at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (+pVGA)

119 22 I was hoping to go to France his fall. Oh well.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 20, 2021 03:27 PM (dFgCe)

Cheer up. We'll always have Paris... Texas.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (mdjgu)

120 I see "Forge in Fire" ratings gold!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 20, 2021 03:39 PM (2SdPm)

This Guillotine will keeel

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (XvPQV)

121 How in the hell are you on the Internet?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
___

My cats.

They type for me.

Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (XrnX7)

122 My conspiracy theory is that they will try to do it here at the federal level. Can't do it? States have already passed bans on it? I give you the legal BAC limit of 0.08. Every state has it yet it's not a federal law. So I see them trying something similar. Approve the Vaxport or you won't get federal money for "fill in the blank."

Posted by: Buzzion at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (7LPb9)

123 We all need to get fake ID from nearby colleges or Home Depots.

Mi nombre es Manuel EnFuego.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (u82oZ)

124 I expect this to be an unpopular position, but I think there ARE times when the government has to be able to make you get vaccinated. For example, if a highly transmissible form of Ebola developed in the US, people should not be allowed to refuse a vaccine because the consequences are so dire.

OK, I'll mark you down as one who considers people chattel of the government and can and should be treated no different than livestock.

FYI - if Ebola kept all of its present characteristics plus was more highly communicable - it would still end up the same way because the virus doesn't spread when the host dies. You would need to have a third party agent for transmission / communication that is relatively immune to the virus - like rats and biting insects.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 20, 2021 03:41 PM (lSG6C)

125

I am a pacifist by nature with a deep, Talmudic/Quaker-like belief in non-violence and the sanctity of human life.

But if they have to toss a few mostly peaceful Molotov-cocktails to get a point across, so be it.

Oy-main.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:41 PM (s2VJv)

126 How will I be able to eat my cake if I'm wearing a mask??

Posted by: Peasant at July 20, 2021 03:41 PM (Coy3D)

127

They are forcing everyone to get off the grid. And going underground.

Underground La Patisserie and Cafe's.

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 20, 2021 03:41 PM (9VFzC)

128 Cheap tricks and vaccination day off blog.

Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (In5Sq)

129 I expect this to be an unpopular position, but I think there ARE times when the government has to be able to make you get vaccinated. For example, if a highly transmissible form of Ebola developed in the US, people should not be allowed to refuse a vaccine because the consequences are so dire
---------------
This is contra to all medical ethics. You can not force a person to take a medical treatment.

Posted by: MJ at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (zwDuR)

130

one million bro, since Biden there have been 1 million illegals enter, and stay, from the southern border


no vax for them tho, just free bus and airplane rides

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (bTQ72)

131 117 Make Vichy Great Again!
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (TNyrE)


"Shocked!"

- - Capt. Louis Renault

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (s2VJv)

132 92 How long before someone manages to get access to the records system and starts selling fake passport records of vaccination? And how much will they sell it for?
(How do I get in on this action? Wait I'd have to move to France. Better than California, but not by much...)

you probably won't have to move to France .... unfortunately

Posted by: Captain Renault at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (RzUqr)

133

What will happen when no one shows up at all?
When everyone uses delivery?

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (9VFzC)

134 Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (7OrCI)
___

My bad.

So when are you gonna start up a fire brigade here, instead of being here at the HQ trying to browbeat us into storming DC.

You a Feeb or something?

Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (XrnX7)

135 Remember when BSG signed every comment with 'And God Bless poor Bingo!'

Yeah, annoying times.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (LYEvi)

136 It's a crime to get sick, comrades!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:36 PM (XvPQV)

==========

What if you're ill-in' like a villain?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (LvTSG)

You're only safe if you're 'mos ill'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (XvPQV)

137 Yes, this was known at least back as far as Oct 2020. It was on the slide deck that the FDA pushed out, where the presenter skipped over the slide, but Barnhardt captured the screenshot of it. All of the major vax side effects you hear about now were listed back then.


I found a document-- maybe the one screenshot by Ann Barnhardt-- well before the "vaccine" came out that listed everything as a possible side effect. It's probably memory holed now.

Less than a year later, all of those "possible" side effects have become actual side effects. Including death. Almost 11,000 listed as dead by vaxx on VAERS; the number is probably much, much higher.

Posted by: shibumi at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (JIma9)

138 Ice cream sex...yes?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (H3kOD)

139 54 Had to show my vaccine passport just this morning to enter the outside door to a three story office building. Required to put the card up to a camera by the door and the door would only be unlocked once the receptionist was able to confirm that it looked real.
==


in Vermont? is this a privately owned building?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (oEn12)

140 128 Cheap tricks and vaccination day off blog.
Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (In5Sq)


"I want you to jab me..."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (s2VJv)

141 https://tinyurl.com/5ya5pczr
Posted by: Max Barrage at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (+pVGA)

So he already backed down?

Posted by: JoeF. at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (mR6Gs)

142 Mi nombre es Manuel EnFuego.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM


Do your amigos call you "Guy"?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (a3Q+t)

143 138 Ice cream sex...yes?
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (H3kOD)


Ben fucking Jerry in the ass? Pass...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (s2VJv)

144 79 It's a crime to get sick, comrades!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:36 PM (XvPQV)



A true but light hearted change of pace regarding this quote. My daughter did a semester abroad in Moscow and was out for a run one cold winter morning when she came upon an older lady, obviously of an age where she had been brought up in the old USSR. Lady had had chopped a hole in the Moscow river's ice and was bathing in the ice water. My daughter stopped to look, somewhat incredulous, and the babushka yelled up at her "where's your jacket young lady"

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (mVMcL)

145 I think one of the cobs had to threaten to ban him to get him to stop. Kind of.. ironic? Sad? Coincidental? Melancholy?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (LYEvi)

146 Cheap tricks and vaccination day off blog.
Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (In5Sq)


"I want you to jab me..."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (s2VJv)

"Surrender!"

Posted by: JoeF. at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (mR6Gs)

147 It's a bad look, but I think the French government is mostly doing this as threat to decrease vaccine hesitancy and doesn't have much intention of actually enforcing.

The interesting thing is how US-based progs can mentally account for vaccine hesitancy amongst the French when it can't be blamed on Fox News or all us mouth-breathing redneck Republican-voting Jesus folk.

Posted by: Match Checksout at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (dYe5S)

148 consequences to who? the vaccinated are protected.
Okay, you're a parent who doesn't believe in vaccination. Do you have the right to prevent your child from being vaccinated?

What if the vaccine is only 75% effective? Do you have the right to subject the other vaccinated people to a 25% chance of certain death?

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (ZsR3z)

149
"If we do not act today, the number of cases will continue to increase," Macron said...

Does this bullshit sound familiar?
It should. It's the same exact "If we don't act today..." the plastic in the ocean will turn into a monster and kill us all global warming scaremongering bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (C191H)

150 So, what I want to know is why nations with much more government-controlled health care systems are lagging behind the USA, with our 50-state public health patchwork and our supposedly retrograde health care financing/insurance. Canada and Europe are offered up all the time by the lib-progs as having such better health care, yet they've been lagging way behind us in vaxxing.

They also have far fewer ICU resources that we do.

Hmmmm...

Posted by: The Real Dr. Mabuse at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (ViC0A)

151 This is contra to all medical ethics. You can not force a person to take a medical treatment.


But it's totally OK for a business, a hospital, a school or your employer to force you to take any experimental treatment they want.

Posted by: SCOTUS at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (JIma9)

152 The Coof non-vaccine equals thalidomide + Tuscaloosa.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 20, 2021 03:44 PM (YoZWX)

153 138 Ice cream sex...yes?
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (H3kOD)

Helen Thomas? No. The mix of Dentucreme and rocky road would be stomach turning. Add in linament and peppermints and it gets even worse.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:44 PM (LYEvi)

154 And to think, we used to make fun of the Soviets for making it a criminal act to not have your 'papers'. Christ.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 20, 2021 03:44 PM (HmZuC)

155 146 Cheap tricks and vaccination day off blog.
Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (In5Sq)


"I want you to jab me..."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (s2VJv)

"Surrender!"
Posted by: JoeF. at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (mR6Gs)

Then I woke up,
Joe and Jill were rolling on the couch...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:44 PM (s2VJv)

156 All of this pushing for a 99%+ survival rate virus. I am 50/50 on whether it is to show you who is in control or if there is something nefarious. Either way, I'm with those French resistance guys.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2021 03:44 PM (r+sAi)

157 He already let his boss know if a job requires him to get the jab, he's not doing it.

Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:35 PM (XrnX7)


Mine told me the other day he's afraid they are going to make it mandatory in his office. I told him, "then you quit, and we tighten our belts."

Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (Ez6QX)

158 Here's the post I referenced. You can click on the YouTube video to see the posting date and step through with , and . to find the offending slide. She gives you the timestamp.

https://tinyurl.com/5k75r2uk
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 20, 2021 03:33 PM (DXFDM)


Love how he skips that slide, but then goes on to tout their real time surveillance methods that show the slide he just skipped is serious shit they actually observed, and not just "guessing" at possible effects.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (wAnMi)

159 OK, I'll mark you down as one who considers people chattel of the
government and can and should be treated no different than livestock.


Think what you want, sport.

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (ZsR3z)

160 I was denied access to my cardiologist because I went to the Hospital with a sore throat.

Yep.....can't have sick folks showing up at a Hospital. What would happen?

Fuck this clown world. Flick the Bic.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (XvPQV)

161 148
Okay, you're a parent who doesn't believe in vaccination. Do you have the right to prevent your child from being vaccinated?

What if the vaccine is only 75% effective? Do you have the right to subject the other vaccinated people to a 25% chance of certain death?
Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (ZsR3z)

If the vaccine is only 75% effective then they'll face that 25% chance regardless because it will still spread in the vaccinated population.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (z5Vrg)

162 152 This is contra to all medical ethics. You can not force a person to take a medical treatment.

But it's totally OK for a business, a hospital, a school or your employer to force you to take any experimental treatment they want.
Posted by: SCOTUS at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (JIma9)

Lost the forest for the trees.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (LYEvi)

163 They didn't like Fascism the first time very much, but maybe round two will be better.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (Cxk7w)

164 153 The Coof non-vaccine equals thalidomide + Tuscaloosa.
Posted by: Minuteman at July 20, 2021 03:44 PM (YoZWX)


I saw Thalidamide and Tuscaloosa open for Yarborough and Peoples at the Apollo Theater in '80.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (s2VJv)

165 What if the vaccine is only 75% effective? Do you have the right to subject the other vaccinated people to a 25% chance of certain death?
Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (ZsR3z)

Obviously you support gun control, because you have no right to expose your neighbor to the possibility of you shooting them.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (o2MD2)

166 Something tells me the muslim are not on board with this

Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (uUDKV)

167 If i catch Teh Vid, I'll probably be fine.
If i get Teh Vaxx, I'll probably be fine.

The difference is, i may or may not catch the disease, as opposed to shoving something directly into my bloodstream (most likely against my will).

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (6FeV1)

168 >This Guillotine will keeel
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:40 PM (XvPQV)

LOL

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (DXFDM)

169 Corrupt bastard Justin Trudeau is surely pondering it.
When I call him a bastard I believe I'm speaking literally.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (cSyAR)

170 We should put anti vaxxers in jail or re-education camps where they can't infect others.

The vaxxed can get COVID. The vaxxed can spread COVID. So how can you prove that the un-vaxxed are spreading it?

Or, to put it another way, perhaps that unvaxxed need to stay away from the vaxxed, who now make up the majority of COVID deaths in both the UK and Israel.

Posted by: shibumi at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (ywM9T)

171 Rocky Road in the vaseline.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 20, 2021 03:46 PM (H3kOD)

172 Then I woke up,
Joe and Jill were rolling on the couch...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:44 PM (s2VJv)

They just seem a little weird...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:46 PM (XvPQV)

173

If these countries are being threatened by other CountryThatCannotBeNamed in dropping another bioweapon, this is how they will act? Versus taking this head on? Everyone is afraid until there is nothing left that anyone can do. People trust their governments. lol

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 20, 2021 03:46 PM (9VFzC)

174 SMH, I have no interest in brow beating you or anyone else.

I made an observation that our cultures are different. Even you could probably figure that out if you had subtitles I guess

Not a fed. Although I did my duty. Although unlike you, I have other things in life to mention.

Every freaking day.

Have a nice day sunshine.


Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at July 20, 2021 03:46 PM (7OrCI)

175 155 And to think, we used to make fun of the Soviets for making it a criminal act to not have your 'papers'. Christ.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 20, 2021 03:44 PM (HmZuC)

No shit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:46 PM (LYEvi)

176 163 152 This is contra to all medical ethics. You can not force a person to take a medical treatment.

But it's totally OK for a business, a hospital, a school or your employer to force you to take any experimental treatment they want.
Posted by: SCOTUS at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (JIma9)

Lost the forest for the trees.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (LYEvi)

The government doesn't need a Stasi when they have the private sector acting as a Stasi on fucking steroids.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:46 PM (s2VJv)

177 Ben fucking Jerry in the ass? Pass...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (s2VJv)


Wonder no more why most of their crap has nuts or fudge.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 03:46 PM (wAnMi)

178 Someone linked this the other day ... a doctor (and a panel of doctors) explaining how mRNA treatment is different, and why it might be causing clotting issues. (he says 40 trillion molecules per dose, which sounds like a lot ... end up in capillaries, get recognized as damage that needs to be clotted, or something like that)

https://tinyurl.com/4h5xk6ap

Posted by: illiniwek at July 20, 2021 03:46 PM (Cus5s)

179 Rocky Road in the vaseline.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 20, 2021 03:46 PM (H3kOD)

That is the weirdest Stone Temple Pilot's parody I've ever heard.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (XvPQV)

180 If the vaccine is only 75% effective then they'll face that 25% chance
regardless because it will still spread in the vaccinated population.

No, because at some point, herd immunity really does kick in. Again, it's a judgement call wrt deadliness vs transmissibility.

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (ZsR3z)

181
So the French learned nothing from those recent
Paris protests??
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 03:34 PM (C191H)



As Talleyrand once observed about the Bourbons, they had learned nothing and forgotten nothing.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (n+4am)

182 I think I have an opinion that everyone can hate.

I got the vaccine. I think most people probably should. I think the danger of the vaccine is low. I don't think anybody should be mandated to get it. I don't particularly care if anybody I know has it because if I still cared, why get vaccinated.

Posted by: Broseidon at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (xZtY2)

183 172 Rocky Road in the vaseline.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 20, 2021 03:46 PM (H3kOD)

Cherries in Cherry Garcia = polyps.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (s2VJv)

184 everybody has to be vaxxed but is good having hundreds of thousands of unvaxxed illgal coming into the country.

why is the vaxx such a big thing for some?


The mass shooter James Hodgkinson's enabler, Dick Durban, announced that wypipo are a dead-end demographic and the replacement demographic will reliably vote for Communism.

Why would he say that unless he expects the current inhabitants of the former United States to be wiped out by the Kill Shot and replaced by foreign nationals?

The "vaccine" is the modern Smallpox Blanket.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (lSG6C)

185 If you really believed Covid was so deadly, wouldn't you want your political enemies to die from it?

Its just so odd to me why they so badly want everyone to take it.

I think it really is just about bending the knee.

Posted by: Blago at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (PwNLq)

186 Do we need to Waterloo them again?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (d9FiS)

187 Corrupt bastard Justin Trudeau is surely pondering it.
When I call him a bastard I believe I'm speaking literally.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (cSyAR)


Justin Castro?

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (9VFzC)

188 in Vermont? is this a privately owned building?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (oEn12)


Yes to both. Company must think their employees are coming back someday because the roof investigation was to see if it was possible to install solar panels up there. I'm guessing they are planning to keep the building for a while.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (mVMcL)

189 Someone should remind Macron that European dictators have a really piss poor track record of retirement even in the modern era.

The Ceausescu family in Romania were planning on a nice Christmas until shit went sideways in a bad way for them.

Posted by: Azathoth at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (MTi+6)

190 for a 99%+ survival rate virus. I am 50/50 on whether it is to show you who is in control or if there is something nefarious. Either way, I'm with those French resistance guys.
Posted by:


that is the thing, somebody as a reasn for this that is not obvious.

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (BRQzG)

191 Not a fed. Although I did my duty. Although unlike you, I have other things in life to mention.
___

As did I.

And you brought it up, sunshine.

peace

Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (XrnX7)

192 Duncanthrax

When they are polite. They call me lots of stuff. Guy bonding with 2x4s.

I'm going zip lining with one of them Saturday. He was a F-105 plane captain in Thailand during a USAF paid vacation to SEA.

I have asked when I was voting in 2016 and 2020 if I can get an extra provisional ballot for Manuel EnFuego. Uh ... NO!

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (u82oZ)

193

Going to be a lot of Frenchies moving to Florida...

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (9VFzC)

194 A good benefit of growing up in a medical family is you lose any awe and wonderment about doctors. A lot of them are really fucking stupid.

Posted by: Broseidon at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (xZtY2)

195 Salty!

Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (XrnX7)

196 Sacre bleu!

Posted by: Jaque at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (iaMtV)

197 Cheap tricks and vaccination day off blog.
Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (In5Sq)


"I want you to jab me..."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (s2VJv)

"Surrender!"
Posted by: JoeF. at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM


"I (Don't) Want a New Drug..."

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (m+jkK)

198 Justin Castro?
Posted by: artisanal ette at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (9VFzC)
You've got it.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (cSyAR)

199 174

If these countries are being threatened by other CountryThatCannotBeNamed in dropping another bioweapon, this is how they will act? Versus taking this head on? Everyone is afraid until there is nothing left that anyone can do. People trust their governments. lol
Posted by: artisanal ette at July 20, 2021 03:46 PM (9VFzC)

May the Chinese people shock the shit out of the world and overthrow the Communists. Then I would not blame them for going off on Leftists here - "baizuo" - for keeping them enslaved for so long.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:49 PM (s2VJv)

200 that is the thing, somebody as a reasn for this that is not obvious.
Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (BRQzG)


The Great Reset?
Central World Governance?

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 20, 2021 03:49 PM (9VFzC)

201 Speaking of...saw a fun bumper sticker in my AO:

"You can't fix stupid, but you can stun it with a 2x4."

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:49 PM (XvPQV)

202 The key word is transmissible. I agree that if you want to die then it's your right to jump off a bridge. It's not your right to act as a vector that will lead to the deaths of others.
Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (ZsR3z)

Everyone is a vector of death in some way or another.
You are speaking the language of panic.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 20, 2021 03:49 PM (NMtoJ)

203 "I (Don't) Want a New Drug..."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (m+jkK)

I got News for you...

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 03:49 PM (Bmy3R)

204 Going to be a lot of Frenchies moving to Florida...
Posted by: artisanal ette at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (9VFzC)

All wearing Speedos?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 03:49 PM (cSyAR)

205 Well, here's to hoping for a French insurrection. A real one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 20, 2021 03:50 PM (3p5uk)

206 Do we need to Waterloo them again?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (d9FiS)

Well, I do like ABBA....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:50 PM (XvPQV)

207 "The croissant is against the wall. Repeat, the croissant is against the wall."

Posted by: Maquis at July 20, 2021 03:50 PM (HmZuC)

208 Sacre bleu!
Posted by: Jaque at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (iaMtV)
........

Sacre ah-choo!

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2021 03:50 PM (v0R5T)

209 You are speaking the language of panic.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 20, 2021 03:49 PM (NMtoJ)

It's the language of a con artist.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2021 03:50 PM (6FeV1)

210 164 They didn't like Fascism the first time very much, but maybe round two will be better.
Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (Cxk7w)

Everyone keeps doing socialism wrong! She loves me! I know she does!

*puts more foundation on*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:50 PM (LYEvi)

211
Dear French lady friend of mine (whom I almost had an affair with) hates the Chinese. Her brother-in-law is married to one and she says "zeeze Chineeeze beem-boze!"

Cute.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (s2VJv)

212 What if the vaccine is only 75% effective? Do you have the right to subject the other vaccinated people to a 25% chance of certain death?
Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (ZsR3z)


Do you hear yourself? If it is certain death then you would not need a mandate.

As for kids, I think if there is serious risk to them (like polio for example,) most parents will line up for a vaccine. Maybe 0.0001% will not, and to preserve liberty we have to accept that.

You are talking like a child applying hypothetical to impossible situations.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (toINk)

213 that is the thing, somebody as a reasn for this that is not obvious.
Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (BRQzG)

The Great Reset?
Central World Governance?
Posted by: artis


willing to entertain anything but there is nothing obvious to go with

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (BRQzG)

214 Okay, you're a parent who doesn't believe in vaccination. Do you have the right to prevent your child from being vaccinated?

What if the vaccine is only 75% effective? Do you have the right to subject the other vaccinated people to a 25% chance of certain death?
Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (ZsR3z)

Your argument is breaking apart in real time. If the disease is actually dangerous, then -I- will be the one wearing the exosuit. Hell, I'd get the vaccine. And so would everyone else. .

But if you have to mandate it and suppress all dissent, then it's a sign you're lying about it. Even now, at the current peak of China Flu Hysteria, the government does not mandate injections of children. Perhaps they realize that if they take your tack, there will be dead cops and dead parents in every state. At least a few governors would be dangling from cages with their guts hanging out.

You are responsible to save yourself. If the vaccine is less than 100% effective against lethal disease, you need to protect yourself as far as possible. But you don't have the right to tie people to your shoddy reasoning. (Which is still more sound than anything coming out of Fauci Inc.)

Posted by: trev006 at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (8Ex3i)

215 If nothing else, this oughta bring back the guillotines.

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (v0R5T)

216 May the Chinese people shock the shit out of the world and overthrow the Communists. Then I would not blame them for going off on Leftists here - "baizuo" - for keeping them enslaved for so long.


More likely that they'll threaten Slow Joe and he'll simply sign the papers of surrender that allow him to be President for Life.

Posted by: shibumi at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (ywM9T)

217 We should put anti vaxxers in jail or re-education camps ovens where they can't infect others.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (lSG6C)

218 Obviously you support gun control, because you have no right to expose your neighbor to the possibility of you shooting them.
I do support some gun control. I do think you should have to pass a background check for mental health. I don't think you should have a howitzer in your yard. I don't think you have the right to chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons (aka arms). Again, it's a judgement call.

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (ZsR3z)

219 You'd think all that butter and red wine would repel the covids.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (cSyAR)

220 197 Sacre bleu!
Posted by: Jaque at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (iaMtV)

What was the other one? Tout de lore! or something like that?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (LYEvi)

221 Related - I googled FBI 402s because I had typed 402s and it looked wrong to me (it's 302s) and found articles claiming the FBI is warming that buying "fake" vax ID cards is a felony:

"As governments, businesses, and sports teams offer incentives to get vaccinated, counterfeit COVID-19 vaccine cards are popping up. The FBI warns that it is a federal crime."

https://tinyurl.com/5kcedbus

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (49Exr)

222 Okay, you're a parent who doesn't believe in vaccination. Do you have the right to prevent your child from being vaccinated?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 20, 2021 03:45 PM (z5Vrg)


I want to know how we went from kids have nothing to worry about, to kids need to get vaxxed now or they'll all diieee! This shouldn't even be an issue, nor for those under 20 TBH.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (wAnMi)

223 206 Well, here's to hoping for a French insurrection. A real one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 20, 2021 03:50 PM (3p5uk)

What are they on, like, their eighth or ninth republic?

I mean practice makes perfect, but at some point don't maybe you just start looking for the nearest Bourbon descendant?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (6FeV1)

224 Yesterday, before an annual budget meeting of my political entity at the Count Courthouse, I asked the head Vote Guy in the County (The County Clerk) if I can get a fake ID and address and vote in the city school board election.

He said "Sure, if you are willing to be a criminal."

"I'm a Democrat. No worries." He smiled. He knows me.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (u82oZ)

225

everybody has to be vaxxed but is good having hundreds of thousands of unvaxxed illgal coming into the country.

THIS - and being flown and dropped willy nilly

Add to that the unmasked thugs of bml and antifa roaming like feral animals for years now. And any tranny rally, or what have you. Not to mention the Democrat Fleebaggers.

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (9VFzC)

226 212 Anti-vaxxers shouldn't be allowed in public or treated in hospitals. Good riddance. If anti-vaxxers children get sick their parents should be arrested for child abbuse.
Posted by: carley at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (4ePJ5)


Should we address you as Hauptsturmbahnfuhrer or schmuck?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (s2VJv)

227
Cheap tricks and vaccination day off blog.
Posted by: Braenyard, Trump / DeSantis - 2024 at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (In5Sq)


"I want you to jab me..."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:42 PM (s2VJv)



And then, Auf Wiedersehen

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (n+4am)

228 205 Going to be a lot of Frenchies moving to Florida...
Posted by: artisanal ette at July 20, 2021 03:48 PM (9VFzC)

All wearing Speedos?

Oui, Oui! Vive les Speedos! Et our mademoiselles, zey are having zee hair-ee legs et armpeets!

Posted by: Zee Franch at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (Bmy3R)

229 Di France empty their prisons of rapist and murderers because prison was too dangerous and they might get the covid like we did in the states?

Posted by: wodun at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (lFga6)

230 France is turning into Illinois.

Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (r4sI4)

231
Posted by: carley at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (4ePJ5)



We got a live one, here!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (C191H)

232 So, does this count as the French Mistake?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

233 You'd think all that butter and red wine would repel the covids.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (cSyAR)


Hell, the hairy legs, armpits and lack of soap will repel me most of the time.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (wAnMi)

234 >Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:47 PM (s2VJv)

This is giving me flashbacks to the middle school grossout game

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (DXFDM)

235 "I don't think you should have a howitzer in your yard"

Why is artillery (cannon) okay but not a howitzer?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (49Exr)

236 willing to entertain anything but there is nothing obvious to go with


Depopulate so that Mother Gaia will be healthy once again, and the only ones left will be the Big Tech Overlords and lots of lower IQ brown people who aren't uppity white Christians as their serfs?

Posted by: shibumi at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (ywM9T)

237 Fauci and Rand Paul got into it again today while Fauci was testifying oops lying to Congress today. Paul reading direct quotes from the NIH definition of gain of function and Fauci yelling that Paul does not know what he is talking about. Story at LI.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (cp/5r)

238 217 If nothing else, this oughta bring back the guillotines.
Posted by: wth at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (v0R5T)


Oh, they're coming. The question is whose necks will be under them; their's our our's.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (s2VJv)

239
Get with the pogrom, folks!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (C191H)

240 Cheap Trick:

"elo kiddies, 'elo kiddies, whatcha gonna do when your vax expires?"

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (Bmy3R)

241 In the US, we complain to Ace
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher
___

So who have you firebombed lately?
Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (XrnX7)


And there's the problem. Whenever anyone suggests that perhaps something more than venting on a website is required, the "well, what are YOU doing about it, keyboard warrior?" response comes right afterwards.

Look, I understand OPSEC. I understand keeping Ace's place out of sight of the Stasi. But this relentless dismissal of anyone who tries to raise a discussion about what can be done - and frankly, at this point (go ahead, flame me) I think only a massive and / or violent response will change anything - does more harm than good. It feeds into the perception that nothing can be done because anyone who does try something will have no support from their purported allies.

Whatever. What do I know? I'm just an asshole commenter.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (2JVJo)

242 Everyone is a vector of death in some way or another.

You are speaking the language of panic.

Yeah, I don't think I'm the hysterical one here.

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (ZsR3z)

243 Why are people putting their hash in their names?

I have a much better anti-socking protocol. If any of my posts aren't utterly brilliant, it was a sock.

Posted by: Broseidon at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (xZtY2)

244 "It's for your health," said the French minister, taking a long drag on a Gaulois...

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (HmZuC)

245 232 France is turning into Illinois.
Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (r4sI4)

For some reason, I started laughing at that one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (LYEvi)

246

oh well

going to go watch another Ruth Rendell Mystery

good times

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (9VFzC)

247 "I want you to jab me..."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Didn't I Didn't I Didn't I hear you coughing?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 20, 2021 03:54 PM (d9FiS)

248 From the last thread, but appropriate:

505 I'm sorry to say I don't believe the vaccine is about keeping people healthy or even preventing COVID. If governments wanted people to get well, they would be touring HCQ/zinc, ivermectin and talking about acquired immunity. FYI, the latter has disappeared from modern medicine. The only way to herd immunity now is through vaccination.
Posted by: shibumi at July 20, 2021 03:31 PM (a87kG)

Agreed 100 percent! They KNOW Vitamin D helps combat the virus, yet they insist on lockdowns which keep people inside...which leads to D deficiencies! It enrages me that physicians and scientists have thrown away all logic, reason, facts, and thousands of years of hard-won scientific knowledge to be the standard bearers for a corrupt government or world order.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma -Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president at July 20, 2021 03:50 PM (l0Cy4)

Posted by: RondinellaMamma -Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president at July 20, 2021 03:54 PM (l0Cy4)

249 Even now, at the current peak of China Flu Hysteria, the government does not mandate injections of children.

Because they know that they can brainwash the children into embracing Communism. Its the adults who are outside of their control that remain the threat and must be euthanized vaccinated.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 20, 2021 03:54 PM (lSG6C)

250 I'm here. (channeling Sharon lol). I think little Macron is gonna have a big problem with this bullshit. We'll see.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2021 03:54 PM (nxdel)

251 239 Fauci and Rand Paul got into it again today while Fauci was testifying oops lying to Congress today. Paul reading direct quotes from the NIH definition of gain of function and Fauci yelling that Paul does not know what he is talking about. Story at LI.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (cp/5r)


Rand Paul is an actual physician who actually practiced medicine. Fausti went straight out of med school into government.

He can't bamboozle Paul and so he does what typical idiot leftists do - bang the shoe on the table and shout "racism!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:54 PM (s2VJv)

252 France is turning into Illinois.
Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2021 03:52 PM (r4sI4)


They're all shooting each other?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 03:54 PM (wAnMi)

253 Do mistresses have to have vaccine passports?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 03:54 PM (cSyAR)

254 {{{SMH}}}
Here you are, classing the joint up.

Got to go, alas.

May you and Ex-Ex know bliss.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 20, 2021 03:55 PM (u82oZ)

255 241
Get with the pogrom, folks!
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (C191H)


ISWYDT, sadly.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:55 PM (s2VJv)

256 France is turning into Illinois.
Posted by: klaftern
___

How so?

No rioting in my AO downstate. No mask, everything is open, no papers.

Must mean Chicago.

Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:55 PM (XrnX7)

257 And raykon should do us the favor of dying in a fire already, but he won't oblige.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 20, 2021 03:55 PM (DXFDM)

258 >>149 "If we do not act today, the number of cases will continue to increase," Macron said...


The two most dangerous words in public policy: Do Something

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at July 20, 2021 03:55 PM (O6DoG)

259 And there's the problem. Whenever anyone suggests that perhaps something more than venting on a website is required, the "well, what are YOU doing about it, keyboard warrior?" response comes right afterwards.
Look, I understand OPSEC. I understand keeping Ace's place out of sight of the Stasi. But this relentless dismissal of anyone who tries to raise a discussion about what can be done - and frankly, at this point (go ahead, flame me) I think only a massive and / or violent response will change anything - does more harm than good. It feeds into the perception that nothing can be done because anyone who does try something will have no support from their purported allies.

Whatever. What do I know? I'm just an asshole commenter.
Posted by: M



in fairness the something they were suggesting was firebombing so there is that.


that then there is the thought that discussing violence and suggesting organizing it here or anywhere is stupid

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 03:55 PM (BRQzG)

260 A recruiter at another company reached out to me, and I had a phone interview today. Went really well. He's based in the same city that I did grad school in, so we were able to connect on that. He seemed to like me, and I have a phone interview with the hiring manager tomorrow.

Salary is within my accepted range, and I can do remote.

Fingers crossed for this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:55 PM (LvTSG)

261 Posted by: carley at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (4ePJ5)

Very interesting perspective about jailing those who disagree with you. Can we meet somewhere to discuss this in more detail? I can promise you front page coverage in WaPo.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (49Exr)

262 245 Why are people putting their hash in their names?

I have a much better anti-socking protocol. If any of my posts aren't utterly brilliant, it was a sock.
Posted by: Broseidon at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (xZtY2)

I dunno. Last night someone asked me if I was socking Miklos socking me. As I said then 'No. I don't think so?'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (LYEvi)

263 Not often but Asian cultures are very static then just like click ....big change plus new exciting fashions.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (H3kOD)

264 NeverVaxxer here. standing up for norms, like an actual vaccine, clinical trials, and FDA approval.

Posted by: x at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (oA+QO)

265 What was the other one? Tout de lore! or something like that?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (LYEvi)


-----
I live near French Quebec. Do not ever say tabarnak around older, traditional Quebecoise.

I've asked a few younger Quebecoise what it means. Even they won't really say. They usually just say something like "No... that's a bad word. No." and change the subject. It must be really bad.

Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (VJsqe)

266 I think the real goal, long term, is internal passports.

The soviets and chicoms have used that to control the public, and I think it is something they want to apply to the West. Vaccine passports are just the foot in the door, and even if they do implement them they will be short lived since this panic pandemic can not last.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (toINk)

267 252 I'm here. (channeling Sharon lol). I think little Macron is gonna have a big problem with this bullshit. We'll see.
Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2021 03:54 PM (nxdel)


I see that he has actually backed down. Weasel Zippers.

There is a lesson to be learned. I think we need to be meaner than Antifa.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (s2VJv)

268 Fingers crossed for this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:55 PM (LvTSG)

Good luck.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (LYEvi)

269 Aetius: But what if that's just what he wants you to think? Am I a butterfly dreaming he is a troll?

Posted by: Broseidon at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (xZtY2)

270 I do support some gun control. I do think you should have to pass a background check for mental health. I don't think you should have a howitzer in your yard. I don't think you have the right to chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons (aka arms). Again, it's a judgement call.
Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (ZsR3z)


You betcha. And who the fuck gets to decide who is mentally healthy?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 20, 2021 03:57 PM (o2MD2)

271 246 "It's for your health," said the French minister, taking a long drag on a Gaulois...
Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (HmZuC)


"This Way to the Showers"

- - sign in the Birkenau gas chamber

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2021 03:57 PM (s2VJv)

272 Fingers crossed for this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 03:55 PM (LvTSG)


-----
Bonne chance!

Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 03:57 PM (VJsqe)

273 You betcha. And who the fuck gets to decide who is mentally healthy?
Posted by: Xipe Totec
___

The gubmint.
duh

Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:57 PM (XrnX7)

274 Why are people putting their hash in their names?

I have a much better anti-socking protocol. If any of my posts aren't utterly brilliant, it was a sock.
Posted by: Broseidon at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (xZtY2)

*looks closely at post*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 03:57 PM (XvPQV)

275 Do you need a passport to get off for le weekend?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 03:58 PM (cSyAR)

276 Though I will say, with all due modesty, that if I'm a butterfly dreaming he is a man I'm a pretty fucking smart butterfly.

Posted by: Broseidon at July 20, 2021 03:58 PM (xZtY2)

277 But this relentless dismissal of anyone who tries to raise a discussion about what can be done - and frankly, at this point (go ahead, flame me) I think only a massive and / or violent response will change anything - does more harm than good. It feeds into the perception that nothing can be done because anyone who does try something will have no support from their purported allies.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (2JVJo)

Part of the problem is that a lot of nationalists are waiting for the general uprising to act, preferably as part of a large mob. In an era of intense social control, they are as likely to call someone a "fed" as to say "Right on!"

You shouldn't let it get you down. The average American has access to weapons that would astonish the Founders. What they lack is the will to use them. Even the Muslims have this right: if you're ready to act, just get up and go!

Posted by: trev006 at July 20, 2021 03:58 PM (8Ex3i)

278 What was the other one? Tout de lore! or something like that?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

QUI?

Posted by: Qui? at July 20, 2021 03:58 PM (l9pg0)

279 I think only a massive and / or violent response will change anything

Quick Question: Did the Japanese discuss their Pearl Harbor and subsequent naval adventures on Facebook before going on the attack?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 20, 2021 03:58 PM (lSG6C)

280 Why are people putting their hash in their names?

I have a much better anti-socking protocol. If any of my posts aren't utterly brilliant, it was a sock.
Posted by: B



it is the same as Hitlr suing for copyright or trademark violatins.

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 03:58 PM (BRQzG)

281 I've asked a few younger Quebecoise what it means. Even they won't really say. They usually just say something like "No... that's a bad word. No." and change the subject. It must be really bad.
Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (VJsqe)

I'm quite sure it has religious significance.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 03:58 PM (cSyAR)

282 I live near French Quebec. Do not ever say tabarnak around older, traditional Quebecoise.

I've asked a few younger Quebecoise what it means. Even they won't really say. They usually just say something like "No... that's a bad word. No." and change the subject. It must be really bad.
Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (VJsqe)

Huh, not seeing anything 'too' bad on the net. As one might guess derived from 'tabernacle'. Per these sites, it is used not unlike 'fuck' as a general purpose swear word.

French people can be strange, but then again, so can we.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:59 PM (LYEvi)

283 267 I live near French Quebec. Do not ever say tabarnak around older, traditional Quebecoise.

I just read the entire Wiki entry and yet I still have zero fucking clue.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 03:59 PM (Bmy3R)

284
According to cnn and the biden junta and twitter, if you're not demanding people get vaxxed, you are therefore "anti-vax" and anything you say is "harmful misinformation."

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 03:59 PM (C191H)

285 I've asked a few younger Quebecoise what it means. Even they won't really say. They usually just say something like "No... that's a bad word. No." and change the subject. It must be really bad.
Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (VJsqe)

It's not bad. It's sacred. They just don't feel like explaining it to an Anglo (who is probably a Prot).

Posted by: trev006 at July 20, 2021 03:59 PM (8Ex3i)

286 @194

Not unless they come through the southern border illegally.

Europe only gets 10pct of the annual 1.5 million lottery slots for immigration.

And something tells me that if thousands of Free Frenchmen were streaming over the border that the administration would trebuchet their asses back to Europe toot sweet.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2021 03:59 PM (mu7kg)

287 Two vaccine centers were "ransacked" in protest of the new fascist laws.

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Come on, Frenchies, Make Storming the Bastille Great Again!

Bastille 2: Vaccination Boogaloo ...

Posted by: ShainS at July 20, 2021 03:59 PM (SAckK)

288 What was the other one? Tout de lore! or something like that?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (LYEvi)
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Zut alors?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 20, 2021 03:59 PM (7CyHK)

289 269 Aetius: But what if that's just what he wants you to think? Am I a butterfly dreaming he is a troll?
Posted by: Broseidon at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (xZtY2)

Are you a troll dreaming he is a budgie?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 04:00 PM (LYEvi)

290 How the hell do you go from "tabernacle" to "fuck." The Wiki sure doesn't explain it in words that make sense in English.

The French are weird.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 04:00 PM (Bmy3R)

291 You betcha. And who the fuck gets to decide who is mentally healthy?
Obviously it would have to be the government. Can it be abused? You betcha, and probably will be, but if that's the case, then the government is out of control and we have a lot of other problems to deal with first. The argument that government abuses its power is an argument for a limited government subjected to constant, close scrutiny, with severe penalties for abusing their power, not an argument for no government.

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 04:00 PM (ZsR3z)

292 What was the other one? Tout de lore! or something like that?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

QUI?
Posted by: Qui?

Zut alors!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 20, 2021 04:00 PM (d9FiS)

293
Yes, how long until we all get "chipped" like pets?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 04:00 PM (C191H)

294 I'm quite sure it has religious significance.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 03:58 PM (cSyAR)


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Same. Just talking about it inspires nervous fear in everyone.

Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 04:00 PM (VJsqe)

295 Zut alors?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 20, 2021 03:59 PM (7CyHK)

That sounds right. *goes to look it up*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 04:00 PM (LYEvi)

296 I don't think you have the right to chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons (aka arms). Again, it's a judgement call.

But you have absolutely no problems with the people who hate you and want you miserable or dead to have them.

They have openly threatened to use them against We The People on numerous occasions recently.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 20, 2021 04:01 PM (lSG6C)

297 Because they know that they can brainwash the children into embracing Communism. Its the adults who are outside of their control that remain the threat and must be euthanized vaccinated.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 20, 2021 03:54 PM (lSG6C)

That is probably part of it, yes. Still, I just about dare the government to mandate child vaccinations. Then we can see some sparks.

Posted by: trev006 at July 20, 2021 04:01 PM (8Ex3i)

298 Yes, how long until we all get "chipped" like pets?
Posted by: S


if you were vaxxed you have been

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 04:01 PM (BRQzG)

299 What was the other one? Tout de lore! or something like that?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop


Le fuque? Or is it LA fuque?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 04:01 PM (cSyAR)

300
I do support some gun control. I do think you should have to pass a
background check for mental health. I don't think you should have a
howitzer in your yard. I don't think you have the right to chemical,
biological, or nuclear weapons (aka arms). Again, it's a judgement call.

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (ZsR3z)





You betcha. And who the fuck gets to decide who is mentally healthy?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 20, 2021 03:57 PM

Yep, there is the rub. I am a combat vet, guarantee you that if I had to pass a background check for mental health these days I would fail in a heart beat and be prohibited from owning a gun.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 20, 2021 04:01 PM (JUOKG)

301
I don't think you should have a howitzer in your yard



Neither do I. Keeping a howitzer in your yard exposed to the elements is a certain recipe for corrosion and rust in the mechanism. I hate a waste of good hardware.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2021 04:01 PM (n+4am)

302 But you have absolutely no problems with the people who hate you and want you miserable or dead to have them.



They have openly threatened to use them against We The People on numerous occasions recently.

Where exactly did I say I have no problem with that? Calm your tits.

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 04:02 PM (ZsR3z)

303 There is a lesson to be learned. I think we need to be meaner than Antifa.

Much meaner and trust me when I say I can mean when I need to be.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2021 04:02 PM (nxdel)

304 Budgies are parakeets? ROFLMAO. Sorry I was raised by books. I thought they were small rodent pets like mice or gerbils or hamsters.

Damn, that is a fun one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 20, 2021 04:02 PM (LYEvi)

305 I have a much better anti-socking protocol. If any of my posts aren't utterly brilliant, it was a sock.
Posted by: Broseidon at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (xZtY2)


That doesn't work for us sub-intelligent commenters.

Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 20, 2021 04:02 PM (Ez6QX)

306 According to cnn and the biden junta and twitter, if you're not demanding people get vaxxed, you are therefore "anti-vax" and anything you say is "harmful misinformation."

Old and busted: "Silence is Violence"
New and shiny: "Silence is Genocide"

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 20, 2021 04:02 PM (lSG6C)

307
A while ago I said the Left needs to keep this pandemic hysteria going a little longer so they can rig the UK elections for Labour.

I wonder if that's what's afoot...

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 04:02 PM (C191H)

308 I've asked a few younger Quebecoise what it means. Even they won't really say. They usually just say something like "No... that's a bad word. No." and change the subject. It must be really bad.
Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 03:56 PM (VJsqe)


A guy from Quebec I used to ski with had told me it's basically the F word, but you're also dragging The Lord into it, so I suppose you can use your imagination from there. He was Catholic, as were his parents, so that's as sweary as he could get.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 04:02 PM (wAnMi)

309 I laugh watching French curlers." French, French, French hurry hard. " makes me laugh every time.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 04:02 PM (cSyAR)

310 Tout le poutine!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 04:02 PM (Bmy3R)

311 Neither do I. Keeping a howitzer in your yard exposed to the elements is
a certain recipe for corrosion and rust in the mechanism. I hate a
waste of good hardware.

You're an engineer, aren't you?

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 04:02 PM (ZsR3z)

312 Why are governments so fiercely intent on vaccinating people? Because they really care about public health? Or, more cynically, because lots of sick and dying people are bad politics for those in power?

But they obviously don't care about public health (sending elderly people into Covid-infested nursing homes, for one).

Why else? Because they just can't resist inciting fear and panic and seizing more and more control of citizen life and commerce?

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 20, 2021 04:03 PM (H8QX8)

313 Horde Status Questionnaire

Hair:
[] Parted
[] On fire

Tits:
[] Calm
[] Hysterical

Jets:
[] Cooled
[] Raging

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 20, 2021 04:04 PM (7CyHK)

314 309 I laugh watching French curlers." French, French, French hurry hard. " makes me laugh every time.

The French curlers have an advantage - they're used to going down on their knees.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 04:04 PM (Bmy3R)

315 Sits back with fresh popcorn waiting for what should be a great shitshow.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at July 20, 2021 04:04 PM (qZdIZ)

316 Maybe francais student Ace knows.
Is it le fuck or la fuck?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 04:04 PM (cSyAR)

317 Good luck TJM!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2021 04:04 PM (nxdel)

318 If you cross a French and a Japanese...you get a Jerry Lewis.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 20, 2021 04:04 PM (H3kOD)

319 So in France if you've recovered that counts? You don't have to get a vaccine?

Posted by: Jordan61-(Ez6QX) at July 20, 2021 04:04 PM (Ez6QX)

320 Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 04:00 PM (ZsR3z)

The Founders found government to be a necessary evil, and strived to limit it. Government is a monster determined to grow and grow until it takes everything over. This is why regular bloody revolution is necessary to reign it back in and kill it back. Then the cycle starts anew. The only question is when will it start?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 20, 2021 04:04 PM (o2MD2)

321 I see a new black market opportunity opening up that could go world-wide.

The French resistance in WWII became very good at forging papers.

Posted by: Cheri at July 20, 2021 04:05 PM (oiNtH)

322 "Why are governments so fiercely intent on vaccinating people?"

Maybe it's as simple as, "Follow the Money."

Posted by: davidt at July 20, 2021 04:05 PM (Coy3D)

323 Toronto Maple Leafs is swears in Quebec.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 04:05 PM (cSyAR)

324 Whenever anyone suggests that perhaps something more than venting on a website is required, the "well, what are YOU doing about it, keyboard warrior?" response comes right afterwards.

Its more complicated.

For those that live in blue urban areas - this shit is coming. No doubt. And your worries are real and logical. But in rural America ? It just ain't that way - there's nothing to fight or fight about. And God help them if they start pouring Federal assets out here. Sure - they'll "win". They won't want to have too many of those victories, though.

And yes - you did hit the nail on the head for some. As well as a late post on the last thread. I'll break it down easier - for some, as long as the store shelves are partly stocked, they'd appreciate it if the rabble rousers just shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 20, 2021 04:05 PM (/fp1w)

325 The Founders found government to be a necessary evil, and strived to
limit it. Government is a monster determined to grow and grow until it
takes everything over. This is why regular bloody revolution is
necessary to reign it back in and kill it back.

I guess we'll find out if blood is necessary.

Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 04:05 PM (ZsR3z)

326 It's not your right to act as a vector that will lead to the deaths of others.
Posted by: pep at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (ZsR3z)

The Second Amendment would like to have a word with your contention that a free people don't have the right to act as death vector to tyranny.

If your governmental edict requires ultimately coercive force, you deserve all the vectors you sow.

Posted by: fringe at July 20, 2021 04:05 PM (FPur3)

327 "Why are governments so fiercely intent on vaccinating people?"

Maybe it's as simple as, "Follow the Money."
Posted by: d


there is not that much involved

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (BRQzG)

328 I gave the sign. Why didn't you give the counter sign?

The counter sign has been changed. Spies are afoot.
In fact even asking for the countersign sounds like something a spy would say.

Posted by: Broseidon at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (xZtY2)

329 Hair:
[] Parted
[] On fire

Tits:
[] Calm
[] Hysterical

Jets:
[] Cooled
[] Raging

Hair - Um, ethnic. So, neither of the above. Tits - manly moobs. Jets - Probably last in the AFC East again this year.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (Bmy3R)

330 If this vac shit was really about public health, the southern border would be locked tight and every wetback would be getting the jab, like it or not.

This is about Control. This is about Fear. This is about Power.

Not 'public health'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (XvPQV)

331 Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 20, 2021 04:04 PM (7CyHK)

lol! I freaking love you.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (nxdel)

332 322 "Why are governments so fiercely intent on vaccinating people?"

Maybe it's as simple as, "Follow the Money."
Posted by: davidt at July 20, 2021 04:05 PM (Coy3D)

I think its that and also the need to always appear to be on top of the situation and in charge. Everyone with a pulse knows they've been screwing up this "pandemic" from day 1.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (Y5qcH)

333 330 This is about Control. This is about Fear. This is about Power.

Not 'public health'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (XvPQV)

==========

Control, Fear, and Power are infrastructure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 04:07 PM (LvTSG)

334 You'd think all that butter and red wine would repel the covids.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (cSyAR)
........

if eating snails won't kill it, nothing will

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2021 04:07 PM (v0R5T)

335 So who have you firebombed lately?
Posted by: SMH at July 20, 2021 03:37 PM (XrnX7)

And there's the problem. Whenever anyone suggests that perhaps something more than venting on a website is required, the "well, what are YOU doing about it, keyboard warrior?" response comes right afterwards.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (2JVJo)

Exactly. It's a rhetorical device to shut down criticism.
And following the Style Guide that's employed to do, asking you to confess to a federal crime on the internet marks SMH as an FBI Informant/Mole, right?

This path leads to madness and witch hunts. Please stop marginalizing anyone who says that violence should be on the table as some kind of nutjob or Rando Commando. I was an infantry Marine. I've never touched Call of Duty, I think it's fanfic.

245 years ago our ancestors resorted to violence to be free. Have we really devolved to such impotence that such an act is now considered WrongThought?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 04:07 PM (49Exr)

336 "Yep, there is the rub. I am a combat vet, guarantee you that if I had to pass a background check for mental health these days I would fail in a heart beat and be prohibited from owning a gun.
Posted by: Mister Scott"
******
And I'm an American Patriot and a devout Irish Catholic. Between our government and the current pope I'd be found insane and excommunicated.

Posted by: Cosda at July 20, 2021 04:07 PM (U7k1y)

337 What if they gave an Olympics and nobody came?

Olympics Still Considering Cancelling Games Days For First Events

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 20, 2021 04:07 PM (d9FiS)

338 Where exactly did I say I have no problem with that? Calm your tits.

The argument you presented is foolishness. Howitzers aren't exactly cheap to own and operate, and I'm pretty sure unless you have a lot of support you will be shut-down pretty quick by your neighbors.

Nukes and bioweapons have been the Unholy Grail of terrorists for decades, so why don't they have them? Because they are profoundly expensive to design, develop, manufacture and deploy. It isn't something that you and your kid could whip up in the kitchen or garage over the weekend.

It took millions of dollars, thousands of man-years just to develop the fucked up bioweapon C19.

I can think of someone else who could use calm tits.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 20, 2021 04:07 PM (lSG6C)

339 Control, Fear, and Power are infrastructure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 04:07 PM (LvTSG)

Mention that in your interview.
Tell me how it goes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:07 PM (XvPQV)

340 Why are governments so fiercely intent on
vaccinating people? Because they really care about public health? Or,
more cynically, because lots of sick and dying people are bad politics
for those in power?



But they obviously don't care about public health (sending elderly people into Covid-infested nursing homes, for one).



Why else? Because they just can't resist inciting fear and panic and
seizing more and more control of citizen life and commerce?

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 20, 2021 04:03 PM

Because they can reward their donors (pfizer, moderna, etc.) with sweet Federal $$$ for their contributions. pfizer has already made over $19 BILLION from the shots at $19.50 a pop reimbursement from the Fed. And if they can get the "booster shot" scam going they stand to make billions more.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 20, 2021 04:07 PM (JUOKG)

341
...I was wondering how many 'ments it would take to get to Jerry Lewis...

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 04:08 PM (C191H)

342 lol! I freaking love you.
Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (nxdel)
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Well, that's the nicest thing anyone's said to me all day.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 20, 2021 04:08 PM (7CyHK)

343 And there's the problem. Whenever anyone suggests that perhaps something more than venting on a website is required, the "well, what are YOU doing about it, keyboard warrior?" response comes right afterwards.
Look, I understand OPSEC. I understand keeping Ace's place out of sight of the Stasi. But this relentless dismissal of anyone who tries to raise a discussion about what can be done - and frankly, at this point (go ahead, flame me) I think only a massive and / or violent response will change anything - does more harm than good. It feeds into the perception that nothing can be done because anyone who does try something will have no support from their purported allies.
Whatever. What do I know? I'm just an asshole commenter.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (2JVJo)


The issue MPPPP is not that people are suggesting more than venting is required and that gets pushback of 'what are you doing about it keyboard warrior?' Its that usually the people doing it are popping in here being smug condescending dickholes about it like they are actually out there fighting the good fight while we're just here whining at ace.

Posted by: buzzion at July 20, 2021 04:08 PM (vMCab)

344 339 Control, Fear, and Power are infrastructure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 04:07 PM (LvTSG)

Mention that in your interview.
Tell me how it goes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:07 PM (XvPQV)

==========

"How will you manage this new team?"

"Control, fear, and power."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 04:08 PM (LvTSG)

345 "You don't have to get the shot if you don't like it."



Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because we needed another holiday celebrating white people being badass at July 20, 2021 04:08 PM (CxCEK)

346 It feeds into the perception that nothing can be done because anyone who does try something will have no support from their purported allies..
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (2JVJo)

"I know, right?" - Kyle Rittenhouse

Posted by: Dark Helmet at July 20, 2021 04:08 PM (Oka5v)

347 330 This is about Control. This is about Fear. This is about Power.

Not 'public health'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (XvPQV)

==========

Control, Fear, and Power are infrastructure.
Posted by: TheJa


maybe, however, that is a stupid thing ot do because eventually it is going to be found out that it was unnecesary and abusive

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 04:08 PM (BRQzG)

348 Part of the problem is that a lot of nationalists are waiting for the general uprising to act, preferably as part of a large mob.

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There has to be an inspiring Leader of the Mob first before that can happen.

WHERE is John Galt William Wallace?

Posted by: ShainS at July 20, 2021 04:08 PM (SAckK)

349 Power, Corruption and Lies > Control, Fear, and Power

New Order ftw

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 04:08 PM (Bmy3R)

350 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (XvPQV)

Certainly. People who don't see this are chasing a fucking squirrel.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 20, 2021 04:09 PM (o2MD2)

351 Control, Fear, and Power are infrastructure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 20, 2021 04:07 PM (LvTSG)
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And an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 20, 2021 04:09 PM (7CyHK)

352 But this relentless dismissal of anyone who tries to raise a discussion about what can be done - and frankly, at this point (go ahead, flame me) I think only a massive and / or violent response will change anything - does more harm than good. It feeds into the perception that nothing can be done because anyone who does try something will have no support from their purported allies.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 20, 2021 03:53 PM (2JVJo)
-------------
I advocate for trying the non-violent protest first.

We are still allowed to gather and protest in large numbers peacefully. When we are no longer allowed to do that through state sanctioned violence, then things will likely get sporty.

Although they have effectively made it a crime to protest in DC now.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 20, 2021 04:09 PM (5p7BC)

353 So far...
1. Questioning the COVID vaxx is doubleplus ungood.
2. Questioning the election is doubleplus ungood.
3. Saying that trans women are not really women is doubleplus ungood
4. Saying that Antifa/BLM commit violence is doubleplus ungood
5. Questioning CRT is doubleplus ungood.
6. Noting the most violent crime are committed by minorities is doubleplus ungood.
7. Stating that your infant is not a sexual being is doubleplus ungood.
8. Complaining when strip clubs are open but church is not is doubleplus ungood.
9. Disagreeing with any statement from the DNC is doubleplus ungood.

What's next?

Posted by: shibumi at July 20, 2021 04:09 PM (ywM9T)

354 Once again, the French demonstrating they have bigger balls than us. Can you imagine patriotic Americans fighting back with fire hydrants and arson? I can't.

Posted by: Commander Tacticool at July 20, 2021 04:10 PM (PRK75)

355 "Why are governments so fiercely intent on vaccinating people?"
........

something something Population Bomb something

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2021 04:10 PM (v0R5T)

356 This is contra to all medical ethics. You can not force a person to take a medical treatment.
_______________

They're not just trying to force people to take a medical treatment, they're trying to force them to take an experimental medical treatment, with unknown long-term effects, some of which could be catastrophic for many people.

It's unconscionable. Especially for a virus that has a better than 99% survival rate.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 20, 2021 04:10 PM (k4dH2)

357 It must be really bad.
Posted by: 496

I dated a Frenchie. I think it means shave your whore legs.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 20, 2021 04:10 PM (toINk)

358 Certainly. People who don't see this are chasing a fucking squirrel.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 20, 2021 04:09 PM (o2MD2

I hate fucking squirrels. There treetop orgasms keep me up at night

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 20, 2021 04:10 PM (cSyAR)

359 Because they can reward their donors (pfizer, moderna, etc.) with sweet Federal $$$ for their contributions. pfizer has already made over $19 BILLION from the shots at $19.50 a pop reimbursement from the Fed. And if they can get the "booster shot" scam going they stand to make billions more.

*

This.

I'm not getting the shot and sure as sh*t am not injecting my children with the experimental chemical, but I invested 10k in each manufacturer a year ago.

I've made a BUNCH of money off of it, and I have no illusion why.

As I take ivermectin.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because we needed another holiday celebrating white people being badass at July 20, 2021 04:11 PM (CxCEK)

360 "Why are governments so fiercely intent on vaccinating people?"
........

something something Population Bomb something
Posted by: wth at July 20, 2021 04:10 PM (v0R5T)

I guess you've seen that 'Utopia' UK series...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:11 PM (XvPQV)

361 Huh, not seeing anything 'too' bad on the net. As one might guess derived from 'tabernacle'. Per these sites, it is used not unlike 'fuck' as a general purpose swear word.

French people can be strange, but then again, so can we.


All swear words can be categorized as either vulgarities or blasphemies. "Tabernacle" is a swear because it's a blasphemy.

It sounds funny because we're generally a Godless people. It's not abnormal at all to hear young kids running around saying "oh, my God" now. If you said that in front of a proper Southern granny not too long ago, you'd get a switching.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2021 04:11 PM (YYlyE)

362 Rick has the Vaccine Passports stashed in the piano

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2021 04:11 PM (i352f)

363
Why are governments so fiercely intent on vaccinating people?"

Maybe it's as simple as, "Follow the Money."
Posted by: d


there is not that much involved
Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (BRQzG)


True, yet one of the things that really annoys me is just how cheaply one can buy influence with gov officials.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2021 04:11 PM (n+4am)

364 "Why are governments so fiercely intent on vaccinating people?"
........

Form previous thread:
Anything the government pushes this hard cannot be good.

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2021 04:11 PM (v0R5T)

365 Them: "What are YOU doing about it?"

Us: "Well for starters, I'm saying we should do something about it. I'm not sure what, but *this* isn't working"

I don't know how to turn the power back on. I don't know if it's the electric company, or a downed power line, or just a circuit breaker. What I DO know is that stabbing the electrical socket with a metal fork is not working. We should come up with something else.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 04:12 PM (49Exr)

366 We are still allowed to gather and protest in large numbers peacefully. When we are no longer allowed to do that through state sanctioned violence

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 20, 2021 04:09 PM (5p7BC)

Even if you discount the fact large gatherings were banned through most of last year, Antifa is state sponsored terrorism, and they are certainly on the attack.

That said, I still support the real President. It it his commands that I obey.

Posted by: trev006 at July 20, 2021 04:12 PM (8Ex3i)

367 re: 265 - Far Cry New Dawn had a French Canadian pilot who used tabarnak a few times:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LarAEdCS2zo

Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 04:12 PM (VJsqe)

368 And Flashback: remember when the BLM riots were a-ok with the medical authoritarians because this very super duper platinum and gold-plated virus didn't infect rioters because reasons. But get your vax today killer.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2021 04:13 PM (r+sAi)

369 "I know, right?" - Kyle Rittenhouse

*

Shut up human piece of feces that needs flushing!
- black rifle coffee

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because we needed another holiday celebrating white people being badass at July 20, 2021 04:13 PM (CxCEK)

370 Realistically all that can be done is to bide our time, quietly organize, and wait for a general crisis to be caused by those in power. I know this isn't popular, but we do not have the raw power or the organization to start anything by ourselves, so we have to sit tight for the moment. Get ready and be ready, but the time will have to be an opportunistic one, depending on events.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2021 04:14 PM (trdmm)

371
meanwhile in china...

china lied to us almost a year ago and said there's no more virus in china! Remember that?

We have no idea what's happening in china. None. And no one is asking.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 04:14 PM (C191H)

372 I am population bomb.....Baby.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 20, 2021 04:14 PM (H3kOD)

373 And Flashback: remember when the BLM riots were a-ok with the medical authoritarians because this very super duper platinum and gold-plated virus didn't infect rioters because reasons. But get your vax today killer.

*

Vaccinated people can catch and spread it, but it only mutates to adapt when unvaccinated people catch it.

Because Science.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because we needed another holiday celebrating white people being badass at July 20, 2021 04:14 PM (CxCEK)

374 370 Realistically all that can be done is to bide our time, quietly organize, and wait for a general crisis to be caused by those in power. I know this isn't popular, but we do not have the raw power or the organization to start anything by ourselves, so we have to sit tight for the moment. Get ready and be ready, but the time will have to be an opportunistic one, depending on events.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2021 04:14 PM (trdmm)

We can also suck as much money as we can from the government to accelerate towards a general crisis.

Be the sand in the gears, the monkey in the wrench, the wreckers the commies always complained about.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 20, 2021 04:15 PM (z5Vrg)

375 This leggy dame sunning herself while wearing a dress thinks that anyone who demands a VaxPass can cram it:
https://is.gd/mQXM87

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 20, 2021 04:15 PM (3p5uk)

376 Was everyone on Bezos' joyride vaccinated?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2021 04:15 PM (i352f)

377 Rick has the Vaccine Passports stashed in the piano
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2021 04:11 PM (i352f)
........

A shot in the arm is worth two in the bush.

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2021 04:16 PM (v0R5T)

378 This leggy dame sunning herself while wearing a dress thinks that anyone who demands a VaxPass can cram it:
https://is.gd/mQXM87
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 20, 2021 04:15 PM (3p5uk)

That did not happen by accident. There is art there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:16 PM (XvPQV)

379 I guess you've seen that 'Utopia' UK series...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:11 PM (XvPQV)


How effing eerie is that show when viewed in light of the events of the last year?!

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 20, 2021 04:17 PM (cZhFz)

380 375 This leggy dame sunning herself while wearing a dress thinks that anyone who demands a VaxPass can cram it:

https://is.gd/mQXM87

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 20, 2021 04:15 PM (3p5uk)

Joe - was hoping you'd come through with material before I left work for the day.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 20, 2021 04:17 PM (N39Ws)

381
This leggy dame sunning herself while wearing a dress thinks that anyone who demands a VaxPass can cram it:
https://is.gd/mQXM87
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 20, 2021 04:15 PM (3p5uk)



I see that she has art supplies. I suggest finger-painting...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2021 04:17 PM (n+4am)

382 Why are governments so fiercely intent on vaccinating people?"

I think its simple. I don't think there is a "master plan". I don't think its an effort to chip people or plant a seed to eliminate people.

I think its much, much simpler. They were already in a Trump Panic - and Covid turned that shit up to eleven. So they made a rule. And fuck me - over a third and close to half of the plebes won't obey - even when the shot is free !!!

Thats all this is. And anybody that served a day in the military should understand this.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 20, 2021 04:17 PM (/fp1w)

383
I think this is a good time to mention WOOD Magazine is a real thing. And it's not a nudie mag.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 04:17 PM (C191H)

384 Joe Mannix giving kbdabear a little competition.

Posted by: davidt at July 20, 2021 04:18 PM (Coy3D)

385 Fuck the 5th Republic.

Posted by: Dick Turpin at July 20, 2021 04:18 PM (OiPl2)

386 Flash mob at park. Everybody brings a lego and legoing.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 20, 2021 04:18 PM (H3kOD)

387 If this vac shit was really about public health, the southern border would be locked tight and every wetback would be getting the jab, like it or not.

This is about Control. This is about Fear. This is about Power.

Not 'public health'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (XvPQV)

ding ding ding ding!!!

Posted by: Occam's Razor at July 20, 2021 04:18 PM (NMtoJ)

388 Some questions:
If the vaccine is so great, why are people who get it getting sick? and why do they still have to wear masks? Why were previously infected people told to get the vaccine? is covid some kind of magical virus that defies all typical viral behavior? Why are we quarantining healthy people? Why didn't Kamala get quarantined after her exposure to icky covid infectees?

Why are conservatives happy to let the government MANDATE a vaccine? Slippery slope, folks, slippery slope. And please do not use the childhood immunization vaccines are your argument FOR because one of the great arguments AGAINST is that according to today's vaccine schedules, children are getting dozens more vaccines than ever before in history. These are not your or your adult children's childhood vaccine schedules.

Follow the money trail here. Who stands to gain by mass vaccinations?




Posted by: RondinellaMamma -Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president at July 20, 2021 04:18 PM (l0Cy4)

389 212 Anti-vaxxers shouldn't be allowed in public or treated in hospitals. Good riddance. If anti-vaxxers children get sick their parents should be arrested for child abbuse.
Posted by: carley at July 20, 2021 03:51 PM (4ePJ5)

Go fuck yourself sideways with a rusty chainsaw.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 20, 2021 04:18 PM (Vxu+H)

390 Cool! We got monkeypox now? Did they finally figure out a proper human to human transmission yet? So much more exciting than dull old covid.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 04:19 PM (wAnMi)

391 This leggy dame sunning herself while wearing a dress thinks that anyone who demands a VaxPass can cram it:
https://is.gd/mQXM87
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 20, 2021 04:15 PM (3p5uk)
.........

She's giving us a little peek-a-boo. I don't think she's a real blonde.

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2021 04:19 PM (v0R5T)

392 How effing eerie is that show when viewed in light of the events of the last year?!
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 20, 2021 04:17 PM (cZhFz)

It's food for thought, all right.
And it's disturbing how many of the idiots on the show went 'oh, this is just for forced steriization to save the Erf? Well that's fine, then.'

Brits are weird, passive things.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:19 PM (XvPQV)

393 383
I think this is a good time to mention WOOD Magazine

If I get a subscription, will it come on time?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 04:19 PM (Bmy3R)

394 "I advocate for trying the non-violent protest first."

I don't think that will work, but at least that's SOMETHING more than what we are doing now. And that's the kind of thinking I am trying to encourage with my Gloomy Analysis.

But please be aware that violent solutions also have a window of opportunity and that window can be closing on us. It is quite possible to try out all available non-violent solutions, have them all fail, and finally choose "violence as a last resort" only to discover that it's too late for even that to work.

I have that feeling I get in so many bad chess games. My forward pawn is orphaned. My rook is forked. My Queen is pinned. I can't see it yet, but it feels like Mate in 3-4 moves now.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 04:19 PM (49Exr)

395 This is about Control. This is about Fear. This is about Power.

Not 'public health'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (XvPQV)


-----

It really pissed them off when we elected Trump. Then there was Brexit, etc... the little people were getting too big for their britches and had to be dealt with firmly.

Posted by: 496 at July 20, 2021 04:20 PM (VJsqe)

396 This leggy dame sunning herself while wearing a dress thinks that anyone who demands a VaxPass can cram it:
https://is.gd/mQXM87
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Heh. I immediately focused on the Border Collie looking doggo in the background next to her arm.
Then I zoomed in to discover it was a drainpipe. Disappointed.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 20, 2021 04:20 PM (l9pg0)

397 A Monkey Pox upon DC?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2021 04:20 PM (i352f)

398 WOOD Magazine

Editor-in-Chief: Girth Turgidssen

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 20, 2021 04:20 PM (Bmy3R)

399 A Monkey Pox upon DC?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2021 04:20 PM (i352f)

Yes

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:20 PM (XvPQV)

400 the real issue here is that they have thrown science out the window.

The vaccine is not necessary, not tested, and has side effects which may very well be devastating to the young in 30 or 40 years when their heart valves start to fail from old scar tissue (which is how my dad died - from the effects of a 40 year old rheumatic fever infection.)

Masks are useless except for spittle and coughing (I have studied particle physics for semiconductor manufacturing) and the lockdowns were an obvious disaster 14 months ago but they keep at it.

As said above, this is about control AND MONEY.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 20, 2021 04:20 PM (toINk)

401 don't think that will work, but at least that's SOMETHING more than what we are doing now. And that's the kind of thinking I am trying to encourage with my Gloomy Analysis.

But please be aware that violent solutions also have a window of opportunity and that window can be closing on us. It is quite possible to try out all available non-violent solutions, have them all fail, and finally choose "violence as a last resort" only to discover that it's too late for even that to work.

I have that feeling I get in so many bad chess games. My forward pawn is orphaned. My rook is forked. My Queen is pinned. I can't see it yet, but it feels like Mate in 3-4 moves now.
Posted by: H


in fairness, there were the rallies after the steal that would have been great opportunities for everybody to show in the tens of thousands, but, nobody cold be bothered.

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 04:21 PM (BRQzG)

402 How will I be able to eat my cake if I'm wearing a mask??


Posted by: Peasant at July 20, 2021 03:41 PM (Coy3D)

your trebuchet awaits sir!PULL!!!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner' at July 20, 2021 04:21 PM (l5R6/)

403 "I advocate for trying the non-violent protest first."


Jan 6th was non-violent, except for Ashlii.

Posted by: davidt at July 20, 2021 04:21 PM (Coy3D)

404 >Realistically all that can be done is to bide our time, quietly organize, and wait for a general crisis to be caused by those in power. I know this isn't popular, but we do not have the raw power or the organization to start anything by ourselves, so we have to sit tight for the moment. Get ready and be ready, but the time will have to be an opportunistic one, depending on events.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2021 04:14 PM (trdmm)

this

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 20, 2021 04:21 PM (DXFDM)

405 I saw Death Vectors open for the Vax Fascists at the CDC Oporium back in '20.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2021 04:21 PM (r+sAi)

406 Realistically all that can be done is to bide our time, quietly organize, and wait for a general crisis to be caused by those in power. I know this isn't popular, but we do not have the raw power or the organization to start anything by ourselves, so we have to sit tight for the moment. Get ready and be ready, but the time will have to be an opportunistic one, depending on events.
Posted by: Tom Servo


there has to be a something to orgnize around

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 20, 2021 04:22 PM (BRQzG)

407 >>The key word is transmissible. I agree that if you want to die then it's your right to jump off a bridge. It's not your right to act as a vector that will lead to the deaths of others.


Unless you are a fag in California, or an Illegal Alien...

Should I go on or do you get my drift?

Posted by: garrett at July 20, 2021 04:22 PM (t3j7U)

408 Some questions:
If the vaccine is so great, why are people who get it getting sick? ...
Posted by: RondinellaMamma -Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president at July 20, 2021 04:18 PM (l0Cy4)
++++
As for that one, if the Israeli and UK data are to be believed, it appears that the length of time for the effect is fairly small - a few months. The Israelis and the Brits - who have had very aggressive vax distribution and tracking - seem to be showing that the shots work but that their effective duration is fairly brief.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 20, 2021 04:22 PM (3p5uk)

409 Agreed 100 percent! They KNOW Vitamin D helps combat the virus, yet they insist on lockdowns which keep people inside...which leads to D deficiencies! It enrages me that physicians and scientists have thrown away all logic, reason, facts, and thousands of years of hard-won scientific knowledge to be the standard bearers for a corrupt government or world order.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma -Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president at July 20, 2021 03:50 PM (l0Cy4)

To use a non-science analogy, they have traded their birthright for a mess of pottage.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 04:23 PM (eoQWY)

410 Rick has the Vaccine Passports stashed in the piano
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2021 04:11 PM (i352f)

"Reeek! Reeeeeeek!! Don't let them jab me! REEEEEEK!!!"

- Ugarte

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at July 20, 2021 04:23 PM (dfRN6)

411 This leggy dame sunning herself while wearing a dress thinks that anyone who demands a VaxPass can cram it:
https://is.gd/mQXM87
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
.........

She hasn't got very far on that painting.
She's no Hunter Biden.

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2021 04:23 PM (v0R5T)

412 Compare and contrast your views on HPV Vacc. Mandates.

Posted by: garrett at July 20, 2021 04:23 PM (ihH3F)

413 Is fece the singular of feces?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2021 04:23 PM (6FeV1)

414 Nood tranny "models"

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 20, 2021 04:24 PM (z5Vrg)

415 We're different because no prior dictatorship or tyranny ever gave "reasons."
Our ignorance is killing us.

Posted by: Zek at July 20, 2021 04:24 PM (w/5KC)

416 Ah, ain't that cute. How long before we get these passports at the DMV?

Posted by: Betsy at July 20, 2021 04:24 PM (EcD5Y)

417 It is quite possible to try out all available non-violent solutions, have them all fail, and finally choose "violence as a last resort" only to discover that it's too late for even that to work.

I have that feeling I get in so many bad chess games. My forward pawn is orphaned. My rook is forked. My Queen is pinned. I can't see it yet, but it feels like Mate in 3-4 moves now.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 04:19 PM (49Exr)

Maybe, but chess would be a very different game if a pawn could kill two or seven pieces in one move.

Posted by: trev006 at July 20, 2021 04:24 PM (8Ex3i)

418 Why are conservatives happy to let the government MANDATE a vaccine?

Easy - but this is where it gets uncomfortable, to steal a line from the Sopranos. Remember, pre Covid, how those Anti Vaxxers were mocked here ? Because those were good vaxxes and why did these Hollywood bitches think their kids were too good to take the same shots as our kids ?

That's why. Sweetie - most Conservatives are not for limited government. They're for good government - as they see it.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 20, 2021 04:24 PM (/fp1w)

419 >>Why are governments so fiercely intent on vaccinating people?


Subjegation is the New Black.

Posted by: garrett at July 20, 2021 04:25 PM (ihH3F)

420 NOOD Hick Quits

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 20, 2021 04:25 PM (wAnMi)

421 413 Is fece the singular of feces?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2021 04:23 PM (6FeV1)

Splitting turds now?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 20, 2021 04:25 PM (o2MD2)

422
It's not your right to act as a vector that will lead to the deaths of others.
Posted by: pep


This is a similar "argument" they use to sue the gun makers.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 04:25 PM (C191H)

423 "Realistically all that can be done is to bide our time, quietly organize, and wait for a general crisis to be caused by those in power."

We can't be passive. The inertia will suffocate us. We could be supporting more FOIA, identifying Google Execs and challenging them in public venues, etc.

I get what you are saying, and it IS wise, but if we fall back to waiting we will discover that when our moment comes, our ranks will have evaporated. And those that remain will console themselves with "aw shucks I guess nothing can be done then..."

ie. the usual Conservative Prevent Defense that can't find the Will to rally in the 4th Quarter. We've seen this dynamic play out in athletic conflicts - the team that has been Meh for 58 mins does not suddenly find the morale and energy to score 3 touchdowns in the final 2 minutes.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 20, 2021 04:26 PM (49Exr)

424 If vaccine benefits prove to be short lived then it will all the more support Zek's initial Plan for the Pandemic:
1. Protect the vulnerable
2. Strong research and public health messaging to optimize the health of everyone else: lose weight, better diet, zinc, D, exercise
3. Distribute and promote any/all therapeutics for off label use with credible anecdotal evidence of benefit and low downside (Ivermectin, Hydroxy, etc)
4. Let er rip through the rest of the population
=Herd immunity and done.

Posted by: Zek at July 20, 2021 04:27 PM (w/5KC)

425 RE: Black Rifle Coffee Company

They responded to my roasting and cancelling with this link.

https://tinyurl.com/3x8k8x5a

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at July 20, 2021 04:27 PM (NZHHQ)

426 No GMO's. Only non hormone beef and organic veggies, Big Pharma got us hooked on Oxy!........but sign me up for the vaccine asap!

Posted by: Holy Moley Hokey Pokey at July 20, 2021 04:27 PM (l5R6/)

427 The biggest gripe I have about the vaccine push - and I think someone else pointed it out above - is that it isn't needed. We have found *very* good therapeutic processes for this. Maintaining good Vitamin-D levels seems to help on its own (which is unsurprising - VitD is good for the immune system). HCQ+Zinc seems to work reasonably well if you hit it early. Ivermectin works extremely well, including for later responses. Ivermectin+VitD works even better. Ivermectin also appears to provide some prophylactic benefit.

We have treatments for this that are cheap, effective, safe and reduce hospitalizations and deaths to extremely low levels. We don't *need* a vaccine, even if it works and is safe. It just doesn't seem to be a necessary step in the context of our very good treatment options.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 20, 2021 04:28 PM (3p5uk)

428 The French always surrender or go bloody. They don't seem to have a middle ground mode.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) (yQpMk) at July 20, 2021 04:30 PM (yQpMk)

429 So, what I want to know is why nations with much more government-controlled health care systems are lagging behind the USA, with our 50-state public health patchwork and our supposedly retrograde health care financing/insurance. Canada and Europe are offered up all the time by the lib-progs as having such better health care, yet they've been lagging way behind us in vaxxing.

They also have far fewer ICU resources that we do.

Hmmmm...
Posted by: The Real Dr. Mabuse at July 20, 2021 03:43 PM (ViC0A)

While I yield to no one on disliking the EU, the main impetus in the vaccination problems is the EU bullied everyone into letting them make the deal for all the nations. Then they slow rolled it and fucked it up.

So for months and months their response was to try and steal doses bought by other nations that didn't fuck up, like England, and badmouth the vaccinations they were trying to steal as no good anyway.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 04:31 PM (eoQWY)

430 It's not your right to act as a vector that will lead to the deaths of others.
Posted by: pep

This is a similar "argument" they use to sue the gun makers.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 20, 2021 04:25 PM (C191H)

We should use that to sue the government.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 04:32 PM (eoQWY)

431 I think its simple. I don't think there is a "master plan". I don't think its an effort to chip people or plant a seed to eliminate people.

I think its much, much simpler. They were already in a Trump Panic - and Covid turned that shit up to eleven. So they made a rule. And fuck me - over a third and close to half of the plebes won't obey - even when the shot is free !!!

Thats all this is. And anybody that served a day in the military should understand this.
Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 20, 2021 04:17 PM (/fp1w)


Western institutions, both public and private, are governed by a managerial class comprised of midwits. These are people who are smart enough to become overcredentialed and to rise up within the confines of the bureaucracy. They can work well in environments where there are order, structure, and rules. They don't operate well outside those confines. Situations which have no good options, require creative thinking, or involved a significant amount of risk tend to cause them to panic. They latched onto masks, lockdowns, and vaccinations because they were simple solutions, with simple implementations and, 1/

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 20, 2021 04:32 PM (jOcSX)

432 The French always surrender or go bloody. They don't seem to have a middle ground mode.

Its not bad - from a game theory angle.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 20, 2021 04:33 PM (/fp1w)

433 in the case of vaccinations, indulged the midwits' obsession for "quantifiable" metrics, which serves to insulate them from blame. "Look, we hit our vaccination targets, so it's not our fault that the infections are increasing!"

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 20, 2021 04:33 PM (jOcSX)

434 If this vac shit was really about public health, the southern border would be locked tight and every wetback would be getting the jab, like it or not.

This is about Control. This is about Fear. This is about Power.

Not 'public health'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 20, 2021 04:06 PM (XvPQV)

Note the instant dire warnings about Cuban refugees, who are not safe voters.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 20, 2021 04:34 PM (eoQWY)

435 And speaking of FU EU and your "single payer system" has anyone ever done a rigorous analysis of where all your good drugs, diagnostics, medical hardware and surgical advances come from?
Probably 90% from the US of A in my semi-informed gut opinion.

They are all frickin free riders on a market based health system that has advanced the level of medicine magnitudes for the world, while sneering at us for being so retrograde as not to have adopted socialist medicine.

Posted by: Zek at July 20, 2021 04:34 PM (w/5KC)

436 Nude Hits

Posted by: G'rump928(c) (yQpMk) at July 20, 2021 04:35 PM (yQpMk)

437 She's giving us a little peek-a-boo. I don't think she's a real blonde.

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2021 04:19 PM

I don't think she is a real girl, she is the next SI swim suit model with some junk down there.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 20, 2021 04:37 PM (JUOKG)

438 President Emmanuel Ceausescu-Macron

Posted by: Roy at July 20, 2021 05:26 PM (Ti+Tv)

439 France needs a second amendment. It's obvious that their government has gotten too powerful.

Posted by: Tom W at July 20, 2021 05:42 PM (csvPN)

440 30 I will be in the south of France in September with 8 of my girlfriends. One of my friends says she will NOT get vaccinated. I wonder if this changes her perspective.

The other 7 have had it? Really?
I have never traveled in Europe amd it was my plan pre China virus... now it will never happen

Posted by: Gonzotx at July 20, 2021 07:05 PM (0WEXg)

441 2 weeks to flatten the curve

Posted by: Gonzotx at July 20, 2021 07:18 PM (0WEXg)

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They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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