Kristi Noem Whines, Dishonestly, That Her Transgender Activism Was "Misreported;" Takes a Passive-Aggressive, Bitchy Shot at DeSantis

Whining and bad-faith deflections and passive-aggressive put-downs -- how presidential. How statesmanlike!

How stunning and brave!

This ditzy South Dakota 7, New York 6 thinks she can be president.

Who wants to tell her?

Sorry to the 'ettes, and especially the South Dakota 'ettes, for that "South Dakota 7/New York 6" joke. But Noem plainly thinks that her looks can overcome the fact that she broke faith with conservatives.

She has to take a good look in the mirror and realize she's not that good looking. She's merely good-looking for a politician. You wouldn't give her a second look, and barely a first look, if she was serving you coffee at Starbucks.

But when you stand her next to Nancy Pelosi and Chris Christie -- sure, she looks "cute."

Republican South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem expressed her frustration with the coverage she received from her "friends" in conservative media over her decision to not sign a transgender athlete bill into law earlier this year.
Speaking to reporters at CPAC on the subject of restoring trust Americans have in politics, Noem urged the media to be "a little more diplomatic," saying it "just gets old" to be taken out of context.
She then cited the media's treatment of her vetoing of a bill, as it was written, that would ban trans-athletes from participating in public school girls' sports.
"The women's sports issue was the one that was the hardest for me, because I've been attacked by liberals my whole life, but getting attacked by my friends was tough," Noem said. "So us on the right that say, 'Oh, we're never wrong--' no, we've got conservative reporters, conservative networks, that definitely do not tell the truth either."
"The bill that I gave my legislature and asked them to sign - because I did not veto a women's sports bill - I asked them to fix it, and they chose not to. But that wasn't the message that everybody heard in this country. And what I asked the legislature to sign is exactly the model legislation that's been passing in every other state … No governor ever got a bill put on their desk and handed to them like my legislature first gave me. And I gave them a style-informed revision, asked them to change it, and they refused. That's not what you guys heard on the national news," she elaborated.

Oh my God, so many Stunning and Brave, Stronk and Empowered Women being held down by Evil Men.

In March, Noem received rare criticism from conservative media for not enacting a bill that would ban trans-female athletes from competing in public school girls' sports, with outlets like The Federalist calling her actions "cowardly." The governor argued that the bill as written would have been defeated in the courts if it were challenged by opponents like the NCAA.

In addition to whining about correctly being called cowardly and a corporate sell-out, Kristi Noem went on to take a very passive-aggressive, c***y shot at Ron DeSantis for shutting down Florida and then pretending that he didn't.

We need leaders with "grit," says the Stronk Empowered Woman who spinelessly collapsed when the NCAA gave her a dirty look.

Emily Jashinsky, formerly of the Federalist, explains that Noem herself shutdown South Dakota, and is now pretending she didn't.

Guess she didn't have enough grit!

Jashinsky also notes that Noem is also "rewriting history" with respect to her "bad faith" and "deeply dishonest" claims she did not roll over for the corporate liberal Chamber of Commerce in letting boys compete against girls in sports.

Note that Jashinsky's cohost is a boomer leftwinger -- stop the video before he starts talking, or you'll want to kill yourself.

Joy Pullman at The Federalist has an absolutely baller column about why we should all be done with what Abigail Shrier has dubbed "Aw, Shucks" Conservatism -- a "conservatism" of cringing cowardice.

And she includes liberal trollop Kristi Noem as one of the "Aw, Shucks" Conservatives.

In a recent article critiquing the political right from a fair outsider's perspective, Abigail Shrier discusses what she calls "Aw Shucks Conservatism." Shrier writes this disposition's core mistake

...is that it treats Leftist ideologues like quirky out-of-town guests arriving for brunch. It assumes we all want the same things and are equally devoted to the perpetuation of bedrock American commitments: free speech, free exercise of faith, equal protection, rule of law.
But the Woke are not zany guests. They are home-invasion robbers. The structure they intend to leave behind will contain but a handful of the cultural artifacts they encountered. Bringing down statues of Abe Lincoln, books by Dr. Seuss and schools named for the country’s founders? That's just their casing the joint. The large-scale heist hasn't even started.

...
Unlike such so-called representatives, Shrier has awakened to the true nature of the political left, in large part by personal experience.... But many Americans still have not had close enough experiences with the radical left to have gained this deep understanding that their goal is the end of the American way of life.
That includes far too many Republican Party officeholders. Those are the kind of people who proudly make infrastructure deals with the Biden administration for the hollow sake of "bipartisanship" and then get rolled without exacting a price for it... Shrier gives the example of Sen. James Lankford's inability to critique the Biden administration replacing the word "mother" with "birthing person," which enables abominations like this.
Republicans do this because too many still do not understand -- or refuse to understand -- the nature of the opposition. They are culture war Neville Chamberlains, feeding Americans to the Minotaur one generation at a time while believing it's a bargain, because, after all, the Minotaur isn't eating everyone, and they'll certainly die before it’s their turn to meet him.
A display of this kind of mental and moral cowardice is utterly disqualifying from anyone who wants to hold office as a Republican going forward. That's because only fools make deals with barbarians expecting them to keep it. People who can't tell a citizen from a barbarian aren't fit to lead.
A key component of this cowardice is the refusal to fight for sexual sanity, Shrier’s top issue right now. No society can exist without protecting families. Republicans have whiffed on this at least since Roe v. Wade. Republican headliners like Mike Pence and Kristi Noem, for example, love to go around talking about how much they love God and liberty, but when things came down to the wire under their governorships, both quickly let the barbarians advance.

Recall that Pence was a key initial cause of the rise in cancel culture when he became the test case for the LGBT left's new strategy of attacking through the marketplace. In 2015, the left went nuts on Indiana over its attempt to protect Christians from harassment based on their beliefs, and Pence folded so fast the tactic immediately moved to the center of the left's arsenal.
Noem pulled a similar trick earlier this year on a bill to protect girls from being forced to compete against males in school sports, and she's still going around sucking her thumb about it, making her decision worse by piling on lies and accusations in an attempt to cover up her capitulation.
Her cover-up attempt is a top reason Noem should be a total non-starter nationally. Same for Pence. They have proven they cannot be trusted under fire to defend the American way of life. That's the whole game right there, folks -- not corporate tax rates and child credits.

Read the whole thing.

Yes, she has the Corporate Class' number right: they will talk about defending traditional American values, but when it comes to action, the only thing they're willing to act on is fucking corporate tax rates.

And then they tell you, "Hey, we're super conservative. Look at how we Preserved the American Way of Life for Montsanto. Walmart, Goldman Sachs and FaceBook."

Fuck you. Die in fires.

Hey @KristiNoem! https://t.co/tqPq2mgV5t pic.twitter.com/JrOACKKURf
— Terry Schilling 🇺🇸 (@Schilling1776) July 12, 2021

Kristi, go back to Paul Ryan, who was almost surely advising you and Asa Hutchinson on what to do on the transgender issues to keep yourself in good stead with the corporate donor wing of the party, and just ask him to get you a job on the board of CitiBank or whatever.

Which is your real endgame anyway.

You're done in elective conservative politics.

Get the fuck out and shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Ace at 06:30 PM

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1
This thread needs moar teets!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 15, 2021 05:31 PM (87zeW)

2 This should be good...

Posted by: SMH at July 15, 2021 05:31 PM (otDZX)

3
I swear, no lie, she looks like Bruce Jenner to me at fist glance.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 15, 2021 05:31 PM (87zeW)

4 Indeed Soothsayer. An evergreen observation.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 15, 2021 05:32 PM (mD/uy)

5 Sorry,lady, DeathSantis doesn't whine, he destroys.

Posted by: EveR at July 15, 2021 05:32 PM (MUpk6)

6 "She has to take a good look in the mirror and realize she's not that good looking. She's merely good-looking for a politician. You wouldn't give her a second look, and barely a first look, if she was serving you coffee at Starbucks."

Agree with you on her politics and conservative betrayal, but as for looks--hey, she's fifty. She must have been quite hot at twenty.

Posted by: nishdoogedacht at July 15, 2021 05:32 PM (UsbFe)

7 I'm off to get a pedi in a few.

Don't judge - happy wife, happy life.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 15, 2021 05:32 PM (mD/uy)

8 Such a shame ... damage control, she could have supported the bill after DeSantis got the thing rolling in FL ... instead she attacks him and tries to reclaim her Prez poll position, which she had only because she was standing against the crap she then cratered to.

She jumped on the wrong bandwagon ... or maybe there was some payout for her from ? the oligarchs.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 15, 2021 05:32 PM (Cus5s)

9 You know, I could have gone my whole life without seeing Roger Daltry's pit hairs. Thanks Ace.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 15, 2021 05:33 PM (PiwSw)

10 I woulda been first, but I was strangling a small business with my bare hands!!!

Posted by: Gavin Newsom at July 15, 2021 05:33 PM (uhPTO)

11 Boob pics for Noem?

Posted by: Weasel at July 15, 2021 05:33 PM (MVjcR)

12 Whining is not enough. We need groveling.

Posted by: f'd at July 15, 2021 05:33 PM (Tnijr)

13 Mic check

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 15, 2021 05:34 PM (7Fj9P)

14 Noem shit in her mess kit.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2021 05:34 PM (Zyyst)

15 I've said it before and I'll keep saying it:

Use the IRS to utterly and completely assrape every Dem politician, celebrity and business, especially Hollywood.

Assrape MLB. Assrape NFL. Assrape NBA. Assrape ACLU. Assrape every last public sector union.

And when they scream that they'll leave the USA, have them deported.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:34 PM (L2ZTs)

16 >>Agree with you on her politics and conservative betrayal, but as for looks--hey, she's fifty. She must have been quite hot at twenty. Posted by: nishdoogedacht at July 15, 2021 05:32 PM (UsbFe)

She can juggle.

Admirable.

Posted by: ZOD at July 15, 2021 05:35 PM (xK9An)

17 If she had solid C cups or more, maybe she would not cave.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 15, 2021 05:35 PM (U8H2e)

18
She's obviously a) stupid, and b) being advised by stupid people.

What idiot fellow-Republican would try to score points by trying to dust up the best governor in the USA??

I'm none too happy about Allen West challenging Abbott. I give little shit about Abbott, but there's no good reason to put that election in jeopardy, or, at least create a bloody primary process.

Allen West, if you want to challenge a piece of shit in Texas, go for Dan Crenshaw, or a Democrat holding a Congressional seat.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 15, 2021 05:36 PM (87zeW)

19 You're done in elective conservative politics.

Oh, I'd like to believe that, Ace, but never underestimate the Stockholm Syndrome Republicans who'll pull the GOP lever because socialism!.

I'm still expecting every GOP-e stooge who's up for re-election to get back in by a yuge majority, just as the elites are counting on.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 15, 2021 05:36 PM (2JVJo)

20 Rep. Katherine Clark is a spider-human.

Posted by: ZOD at July 15, 2021 05:36 PM (xK9An)

21

Where are all the white boobies at?

Posted by: Bart at July 15, 2021 05:37 PM (C2ufB)

22 At HotFart, story that Jen Psaki was apparently forced at gunpoint to say "communism is a failed ideology."

It's fun to think about all the screaming in the WH, debating whether she should say that or not.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:37 PM (L2ZTs)

23 "Her friends in conservative media"

I think I see her first problem right away.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 15, 2021 05:37 PM (5p7BC)

24 Her friends in conservative media? I'm looking forward to upcoming, incessant number of puff pieces for her to be Prez by the Dispatch, Bulwark, and Lincoln Log Projectors in the coming months.

Friends 'til the end.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 15, 2021 05:37 PM (TNyrE)

25 Timing, as they say, is Everything. And I'm sure that's true in politics.

Gov. Noem was handed a "culture war" battle on a silver platter, and choked on it.

Transexuals are generally speaking mentally ill individuals. In any event, our society is either unable or unwilling to keep chicks with dicks out of school sports. This is pathetically fucking ridiculous. She had a chance - and who better to make the case, than a female.

Our politicians are paid to do this stuff. That is their job. I get it, politics ain't bean bag, but if they don't want to do what must be done.

FIND ANOTHER FUCKING JOB

Instead, we get failure theater and excuses and boilerplate BS as to why nothing can be done, there is no remedy, Americans don't have "standing"; while actual literal fucking lunatics run over everything and destroy it.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2021 05:38 PM (RVyQq)

26 Jen Psaki out loud: "Communism is a failed ideology."

Jen Psaki to herself in her mind: "BUT I WANT IT ANYWAY BECAUSE THEN I'LL GET TO BE KREMLIN QUEEN!!!!!!!1!!!1!!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:38 PM (L2ZTs)

27 She's spiraling towards needing a leaked sex tape to get any traction.

Posted by: Jean at July 15, 2021 05:38 PM (Xih1H)

28 She's not fooling anyone anymore with her let girls get beat up by men conservatism. The TG thing has become the top cultural issue that the Leftists are pushing and she joined right in.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 15, 2021 05:39 PM (r+sAi)

29 Kristi, Kristi, Kristi. Come here a sit a spell. Lean forward and listen carefully, only gonna say this once...You voted to let men compete in women's sports. You put a stake through the heart of women's sports. You pissed all over women's sports. Some things are not recoverable.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at July 15, 2021 05:39 PM (nWxPx)

30 Jean...

Good news: there *is* a Kristi Noem sex tape.
Bad news: she's doing Mitt Romney. Bleah!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:39 PM (L2ZTs)

31
Next up from Kristi Noem: No one will disrespect the national anthem with me in the White House!

These Republican Shits think we're fucking stupid.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 15, 2021 05:39 PM (87zeW)

32 Psaki saying communism is a failed ideology will get Lil Red in some hot water. She was supposed to add they don't make 'em like Stalin anymore.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 15, 2021 05:39 PM (I58tH)

33 Yeah Noem burnt her bridge before she crossed it. Rookie move.

Also, please don't break the chaplain we kind kind of need one here if you haven't noticed.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 05:39 PM (4q7lA)

34 She's right, she did ask them to write a different bill. It may have even been a better one.

But she did veto that bill. She refused to sign a bill that would have protected girls in school from guys.

And that doesn't change no matter what explanations she tries to spin. If she wanted a different bill to begin with, she should have been pushing for that and campaigning for that, not sitting around then vetoing the first thing that came along.

You sign the meh bill then work on a better one, you don't shoot down the bill that does the right thing, just not in a way you like. You take the win, even if its not ideal.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 05:40 PM (KZzsI)

35 Noem has all the widespread appeal of human dynamo John Thune.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 05:40 PM (y7DUB)

36 Sooth, LOL.

"Those athletes didn't kneel, they just tripped!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:40 PM (L2ZTs)

37
The men who spurred us on sit in judgement of our wrong.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 15, 2021 05:40 PM (Mzdiz)

38 Russkilitlover, well done!

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2021 05:40 PM (Zyyst)

39 1 This thread needs moar teets!
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales

Well, I can segue from the last thread by pointing out that Ohtani is written "big valley" in Japanese. He may have some racktacular relatives.

Posted by: mikeski at July 15, 2021 05:41 PM (P1f+c)

40 Use the IRS to utterly and completely assrape every Dem politician, celebrity and business, especially Hollywood.
___

If only the IRS wasn't full of Dem supporters.
Or the FBI,
Or...

Posted by: SMH at July 15, 2021 05:41 PM (otDZX)

41 Perfect post. In 2020, she was on-time, but now she's past expiration.
I heard her speech, and when she said her husband told her "You always make the hardest choices!" I rolled my eyes.
How hard can it be to be a conservative governor in a red state? Please. She's a piker.

Posted by: Coki at July 15, 2021 05:41 PM (Y+Sc7)

42 Bet she has hairy nipples to boot.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 15, 2021 05:41 PM (U8H2e)

43 Noem didn't enact a bill that would ban trans-female athletes from competing in public school girls' sports
..........

Did a Mitch McConnell acolyte give her direction on this brick dumb call?

Posted by: Braenyard at July 15, 2021 05:41 PM (4DHSI)

44 At HotFart, story that Jen Psaki was apparently forced at gunpoint to say "communism is a failed ideology."

It's fun to think about all the screaming in the WH, debating whether she should say that or not.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:37 PM (L2ZTs)

Look, it's not like a WH spokesperson has their home hung with communist art.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 15, 2021 05:42 PM (uhPTO)

45 Nothing these Leftists say is true, of course she might say she thinks Communists fail but in her mind she is a Stalinist.

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2021 05:42 PM (Cxk7w)

46 41 How hard can it be to be a conservative governor in a red state? Please. She's a piker.
Posted by: Coki at July 15, 2021 05:41 PM (Y+Sc7)

=========

Doing what the corporate interests of the state want while packaging it as in the best interests of the hoi polloi is harder than it looks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 15, 2021 05:42 PM (SHoE2)

47 Grudge Harbor, I imagine Jen has lots of warm painted portraits of Stalin, Lenin, Che and Mao on her walls.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:43 PM (L2ZTs)

48 I read some political blogs ranchers and the garrett regional types put out. They have never trusted and barely liked Noem and pointed out her true colors years ago.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 15, 2021 05:43 PM (U8H2e)

49 At the end of the day, she thought she could skate on the tranny thing, in the words of Janis Ian, there was dull surprise when payment due exceeded accounts received. Total politician move, doing wrong just because you think you can.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 15, 2021 05:43 PM (oWBc3)

50 Naively, I believed all that crap I was taught as a kid about free speech and natural rights. I took my teachers at their word when we talked about the Founders and memorized Paine and Patrick Henry.

But GOPe get-alongs believe in none of that. They think the Constitution is a living document and shipping sovereignty overseas is no big deal. Oh yeah, running for office those shitheels always made different noises, but their core beliefs are Fascist-lite.

Won't get fooled again.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2021 05:44 PM (23Gju)

51 Female Jonah Goldberg?

Will she start making couch jokes next?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 05:44 PM (csEWM)

52 Sarah Palin really was a unicorn.

Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 05:44 PM (4fSQf)

53 Noem may re-write history in her biography but she won't re-write history in national voters minds.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 15, 2021 05:44 PM (4DHSI)

54 She is objectively hot. Even for a non politician.

That aside she can FOAD.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 15, 2021 05:44 PM (SOBYU)

55 She crashed faster than Sara Palin.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 15, 2021 05:45 PM (gpKIi)

56 Welp at least she's getting some attention here. A couple more CPACs before the presidential campaign is in high gear. I doubt she attends both of them.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 05:45 PM (4q7lA)

57

Kristi would vote for free abortions for trannies if it got her elected. She's a bigger whore than Kamalaho; at least Kamalaho is honest about being a ho, never denied that she's three-holed her way to the top... Kristi sold my daughter's safety and chances for a scholarship for a few freak votes. I hope she dies in a dumpster fire being ass raped by rabid hyenas.

Posted by: Just Sayin at July 15, 2021 05:45 PM (C2ufB)

58 Here's the thing: the new left doesn't want communism.

They want feudalism with themselves as new overlords, and they're using this leftist crap to get there.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 05:45 PM (KZzsI)

59 Republicans are always willing to attack other republicans and throw them under the bus.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 15, 2021 05:45 PM (gpKIi)

60 I don't have a problem with her veto, because I think there's a legitimate debate to have over whether the law was well written or not, and the outcome of any fight with the NCAA. But she flailed in her handling of it, and came across as another smarmy politician.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 15, 2021 05:46 PM (jOcSX)

61 Mittens / Noem 2024

Severely Conservative Squared

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 15, 2021 05:46 PM (SOBYU)

62 I imagine Jen has lots of warm painted portraits of Stalin, Lenin, Che and Mao on her walls.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:43 PM (L2ZTs)

They call it the Jay Carney Collection.

(It was Carney, featured in some rag puff piece, right?)

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 15, 2021 05:46 PM (uhPTO)

63 Kristi Noem is the Nikki Haley of South Dakota.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 05:46 PM (i9ZF7)

64 Noem could have overcome the whole tranny sport debacle but she fucked that right up by not putting on a massive rocket show on July 4th and then by doing a Mean Girls because she's jelly that DeSantis is the soup du jour.

Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 05:46 PM (4fSQf)

65 Yeeah sorry ace but she's definitely better than a NYC 6. Maybe a South Beach 6 but definitely in the 8.5 range for the rest of the country.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 15, 2021 05:46 PM (MufmD)

66 Noem claimed she didn't sign it because it had the 'possibility' of being misinterpreted and misused to sue schools. That's freaking every piece of legislation ever passed. That's why we are still interpreting what the Constitution means. It's what lawyers do.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 15, 2021 05:46 PM (2DOZq)

67
Noem "bravely" attacks another Republican!

Wow. Great campaign, dummy.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at July 15, 2021 05:47 PM (87zeW)

68 And to correct the record, Noem is an 8 in any region, territory or district.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2021 05:47 PM (Qd835)

69 Noems shade throwing at DeSantia was the biggest tell.

Get out and there and talk about the awesome stuff your team does.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 05:47 PM (4q7lA)

70 What happened to Lankford? He was a good Congressman, previously on Senator Coburn's staff, so learned from the best. And, now, after winning his Senate seat, he's just a creepy disappointment.

Posted by: EveR at July 15, 2021 05:47 PM (MUpk6)

71 Mittens / Noem 2024
Severely Conservative Squared
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 15, 2021 05:46 PM (SOBYU)

"Surrendering our way to victory since 1994"

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:47 PM (L2ZTs)

72 That video points out something that never gets coverage: Noem was excellent on lockdowns only because her hand was forced by the legislature. Noem is basically Midwest Nikki Haley.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2021 05:47 PM (QU5/8)

73
Is 7 of 6 her Borg nomenclature?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2021 05:47 PM (63Dwl)

74 Kristi, put on a Zorro mask (available at Wall Drug aisle K22) and give me a blowjob before you crawl away. I'll run the video of the fireworks show at Biden's 4th show on my phone. We can pretend it's Rushmore.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 15, 2021 05:47 PM (auMxu)

75 =========

Doing what the corporate interests of the state want while packaging it as in the best interests of the hoi polloi is harder than it looks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 15, 2021 05:42 PM (SHoE2)

Posted by: G Abbott at July 15, 2021 05:47 PM (4DHSI)

76 Hi, I'm Kristi and I shoot guns just like you. Please send money.
Hi, I'm Kristi and we like lgbtufc too. Please send money.

Posted by: dartist at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (+ya+t)

77 >>>54 She is objectively hot.

sometimes I wonder if "hot" has been redefined to mean "not obese."

Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (0G13K)

78 If the NCAA wants to sue, let them sue. Pay the fucking lawyers and put up. This concede defeat after wargaming in a committee meeting Mitch McConnell bullshit has to stop.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (gpKIi)

79 Doing what the corporate interests of the state want while packaging it as in the best interests of the hoi polloi is harder than it looks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 15, 2021 05:42 PM (SHoE2)

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Kay Ivey at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (i9ZF7)

80 (It was Carney, featured in some rag puff piece, right?)
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 15, 2021 05:46 PM (uhPTO)

IIRC, yeah.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (csEWM)

81 Yeeah sorry ace but she's definitely better than a NYC 6. Maybe a South Beach 6 but definitely in the 8.5 range for the rest of the country.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 15, 2021 05:46 PM (MufmD)

Nah, she's too stringy nowadays.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (jOcSX)

82 Tell me about it.

Yeah, it's time for a drink.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (4DHSI)

83 MPPP - I don't expect a single Republican House member will lose in 2022.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (5p7BC)

84 Count me in the Take No Prisoners camp. Surrender monkey, and you're on the outside looking in.

You don't see the Dems surrendering. They are always in full court press mode.

I'll add one caveat on Noem -- If a lawyer I respect (like, say, Jacobson at LI) sez the bill was doomed as written, I'll cut her some slack.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (F0YaR)

85 >>>65 Yeeah sorry ace but she's definitely better than a NYC 6. Maybe a South Beach 6 but definitely in the 8.5 range for the rest of the country.

As Newman said: "It's fine if you like her. I prefer a prettier woman."

Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:49 PM (0G13K)

86 sometimes I wonder if "hot" has been redefined to mean "not obese."
Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (0G13K)

You're getting warm boss

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 05:49 PM (4q7lA)

87 Asa Hutchinson/Kristi Noem 2024. The Walmart/CitiBank ticket.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 15, 2021 05:50 PM (I58tH)

88 She's not aging well and it's not because she's letting herself go, I think it's the opposite. To me it looks like she works out to much, stringy muscular arms and not enough food.

As to her politics, I mentioned this before, she's trying to stay relevant. Angling for a cabinet spot someday.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 15, 2021 05:50 PM (qH6FZ)

89 What happened to Lankford? He was a good Congressman, previously on Senator Coburn's staff, so learned from the best. And, now, after winning his Senate seat, he's just a creepy disappointment.
Posted by: EveR at July 15, 2021 05:47 PM (MUpk6)
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Joe Scarborough was a "Reaganite conservative" in the 90s.

Of course, I don't know this was ever true.

Posted by: Axeman at July 15, 2021 05:50 PM (XHhHI)

90 "hot" = "never had a penis"

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:50 PM (L2ZTs)

91 77 >>>54 She is objectively hot.

sometimes I wonder if "hot" has been redefined to mean "not obese."
Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (0G13K)

For politicians, the bar is really fucking low.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 05:50 PM (csEWM)

92 sometimes I wonder if "hot" has been redefined to mean "not obese."

Around here it seems to mean "has a D cup or better"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 05:50 PM (KZzsI)

93 If the NCAA wants to sue, let them sue. Pay the fucking lawyers and put up.
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Yes.

Killing legislation because "it will lose in court" is exactly the wrong tactic. You pass it anyway and let the left fight it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 15, 2021 05:50 PM (5p7BC)

94 Some people say we shouldn't blast Republicans. Since I quit the Republican Party, I feel free to blast them.

And didn't she just lambaste DeSantis the other day? Isn't she the one who vetoed her own bill? Lord knows, Kristi is tough on Republicans right back.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2021 05:50 PM (23Gju)

95 Classic rock station out of Montreal is playing "what's the frequency Kenneth."

Name me an act today that would mock an NBC, ABC, or CBS anchor.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (auMxu)

96 If the NCAA wants to sue, let them sue. Pay the fucking lawyers and put up. This concede defeat after wargaming in a committee meeting Mitch McConnell bullshit has to stop.

It was the other way around: the NCAA could pull out and South Dakota would lose any court case. The problem is that would mean a lot of lost revenues for South Dakota businesses.

Florida was honestly in a better position regarding college sports. No one really cares if the NCAA cancels a tournament in Sioux Falls, but people will get pissed if the tournament in Miami gets cancelled.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (jOcSX)

97 I've lived all over the country. NYC had the lowest ratio of pretty girls in my experience.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (2DOZq)

98 She could be an Alabama 8, but I'd have to see her shotgun collection first.

Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (4fSQf)

99 sometimes I wonder if "hot" has been redefined to mean "not obese."

�� Lowered expectations.. ��

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (i9ZF7)

100 "she wasn't my type"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9qV8Ks_e4A

Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (0G13K)

101 sometimes I wonder if "hot" has been redefined to mean "not obese."
Posted by: ace

That and basic bitch plastic surgery face.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (U8H2e)

102 She could be an Alabama 8, but I'd have to see her shotgun collection first.
Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (4fSQf)

She has most of her teeth.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (i9ZF7)

103 Kristi has teh Krazi Eyes.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (jOcSX)

104 Joe Scarborough was a "Reaganite conservative" in the 90s.

Of course, I don't know this was ever true.
Posted by: Axeman at July 15, 2021 05:50 PM (XHhHI)

Joe is a bandwagon coward. In the 80s, it was hard NOT to be a Reagan homer.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 05:52 PM (csEWM)

105 I never knew that a Governor didn't have any idea of what legislation was being written and had no input for their own political party. Foolish me.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2021 05:52 PM (Zyyst)

106 77 >>>54 She is objectively hot.

sometimes I wonder if "hot" has been redefined to mean "not obese."
Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (0G13K)

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No, I agree with ace.

She's fairly pretty. The kind of pretty that you pretty instantly forget the second she's out of sight on the street.

She's no TheDolleyMadison, is what I'm sayin'.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 15, 2021 05:52 PM (SHoE2)

107 I have moved on from Noem.

Count me in for Boebert.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 05:52 PM (4q7lA)

108 Around here it seems to mean "has a D cup or better"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 05:50 PM (KZzsI)

Joe, I think they're on to us.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 05:52 PM (csEWM)

109 Who's that band in that video?

Posted by: Axeman at July 15, 2021 05:52 PM (XHhHI)

110 Whining and bad-faith deflections and passive-aggressive put-downs
........

Meow.

Posted by: wth at July 15, 2021 05:52 PM (v0R5T)

111 I love that Noem is "coincidentally" carrying the GOPe water, where she takes down Ron DeSantis from the purported Super Duper Ultra Conservative Right.

Does she ever bitch about The Mailman? Murcokeski? How about Rommmmmney? Maybe she does. I honestly dont know.

(or care)

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (1L6wv)

112 TJM, is she a Hostess Snack Cake? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (L2ZTs)

113 69 Noems shade throwing at DeSantia was the biggest tell.

Get out and there and talk about the awesome stuff your team does.
Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 05:47 PM (4q7lA)

===
Exactly. Don't dump on DeSantis who is doing what I wish my governor would do -- and drawing threats and God knows what for it, too.

Posted by: Coki at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (Y+Sc7)

114 >> Who's that band in that video?

I don't know, but they're on first.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (Mzdiz)

115 97 I've lived all over the country. NYC had the lowest ratio of pretty girls in my experience.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (2DOZq)

You clearly have not spent time in California's Central Valley... Obese here is pretty much the norm now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (oHd/0)

116 >>>109 Who's that band in that video?

That's what I'm trying to tell you: Who is the band in that video.

Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (0G13K)

117 Sorry, ma'am parks closed!

I am governor Noem, and we are having a fireworks display at MtRushmore

Sorry, Ma'am, Biden says you can't

Arrest me or get the fuck out of my way asstwit.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (gpKIi)

118 She's no TheDolleyMadison, is what I'm sayin'.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish

She reads the comments, doesn't she?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (U8H2e)

119 I still remember back in the paleolithic ages, when people were kicking around the idea that the GOP should nominate Ann Coulter for something.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (L2ZTs)

120 I never knew that a Governor didn't have any idea of what legislation was being written and had no input for their own political party. Foolish me.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2021 05:52 PM (Zyyst)

Meh, legislators can be very prickly about their independence. The Ohio legislature is GOP controlled and they were quite willing to make it clear that they did not take orders from DeWine. Add in interpersonal conflicts, and it's entirely possible that a bill gets pushed through despite the Governor's suggestion that it be modified.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (jOcSX)

121 The test: was Joe a Reagan fan in 1979? 80? 93?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (csEWM)

122 Noem is so principled she screwed over every SD girl athlete. The time now is to make her own every bit of those principles permanently by saying no to Noem and let her and transgender girls ride off into sunset. Saddle up bitches, Valhalla is calling.

Posted by: LostInSpace at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (ESLBo)

123 NYC had the lowest ratio of pretty girls in my experience.

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I don't know... some awfully great looking women competed for Miss Lunch Hour every day on my "gotta get the hell away from my desk" walk.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (23Gju)

124 Noem vetoed the TG bill because her corporate clients dont want those bills. The whole "well lose in litigation" thing was a load of bull.

She was given a test, and failed it. And the crowd moved on. Sorry, you dont get second chances at this stuff, not when you're trying to establish your name, and the people you're trying to win over are looking for Trumpesque, Jacksonian fighters.

Posted by: Revenant at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (UelxP)

125 That's what I'm trying to tell you: Who is the band in that video.
Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (0G13K)

THIRD BASE!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (i9ZF7)

126 Ya think most of the good ladies have called it a day after the last thread?

Posted by: JM in Florida at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (HCeRP)

127 Joe is a bandwagon coward. In the 80s, it was hard NOT to be a Reagan homer.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 05:52 PM (csEWM)
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I was thinking "surfer". He could ride the wave.

Of course, killing an intern in Washington could probably turn a lot of things around, if you want to remain where you are.

Don't count out the power of killing an intern in Washington.

Posted by: Axeman at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (XHhHI)

128 102 She could be an Alabama 8, but I'd have to see her shotgun collection first.
Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (4fSQf)

She has most of her teeth.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (i9ZF7)

And she'd be an Alabama 9 if'n you all were related...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (oHd/0)

129 "The governor argued that the bill as written would have been defeated in the courts if it were challenged by opponents like the NCAA."

So? Let 'em try to defeat it.

See, losing is easy if you just surrender right away. That, officially, is not Leadership. You're doing the opponent's work for them, Dummy.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 15, 2021 05:55 PM (aXxgO)

130 You clearly have not spent time in California's Central Valley... Obese here is pretty much the norm now.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (oHd/0)

No I have not lived in Central CA. Only extended visits for business.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 15, 2021 05:55 PM (2DOZq)

131 >>Republicans do this because too many still do not understand -- or refuse to understand -- the nature of the opposition.

I completely disagree. They fail to understand that the public is on to their grift. In fact, they may not even understand that their "easy principals" are a grift. They say what they think impresses/convinces/sways people, and they think they are being "presidential." They are cockroaches in business suits, but the thing is they don't even know they are cockroaches. They think they are geniuses.

This is why they all instinctively hated Trump - he does not have 8 legs and antennae and they could tell he was not one of them.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 15, 2021 05:55 PM (p3Qxc)

132 Who's that band in that video?

That's what I'm trying to tell you: Who is the band in that video.
Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (0G13K)
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What?

Posted by: Axeman at July 15, 2021 05:55 PM (XHhHI)

133 Arrest me or get the fuck out of my way asstwit.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (gpKIi)

Would have been awesome!

Posted by: JM in Florida at July 15, 2021 05:55 PM (HCeRP)

134 add one caveat on Noem -- If a lawyer I respect (like, say, Jacobson at LI) sez the bill was doomed as written, I'll cut her some slack.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 15, 2021 05:48 PM (F0YaR)

However don't forget she jumped straight on conservatives saying we were hypocrites by doing a "cancel culture" of our own. It was total bullshit and that was her peacock colors on full display. So the bill, and her action on the bill, doesn't matter. She is a blue blood.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 05:56 PM (1L6wv)

135 Seattle during the grunge era had the fewest attractive women per capita bar none, in fact, any time you saw a pretty women, she would inevitably be from Oregon.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2021 05:56 PM (Qd835)

136 this passing trend among AWFL's and their asymmetric fash street looters is a stupid trend but unlike bell-bottoms, it's going to make them first against the wall. I'km fucking insulted and I won't forget.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at July 15, 2021 05:56 PM (ZZK0E)

137 THIRD BASE!
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (i9ZF7)

Isn't that where the last thread turned for the worse?

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 05:56 PM (4q7lA)

138 She can juggle.

Admirable.
Posted by: ZOD at July 15, 2021 05:35 PM

Good eye-hand coordination can be put to many uses.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2021 05:56 PM (rBtIz)

139 Who's that band in that video?

That's what I'm trying to tell you: Who is the band in that video.
Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (0G13K)
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What?
Posted by: Axeman at July 15, 2021 05:55 PM (XHhHI)
......

Where?

Posted by: wth at July 15, 2021 05:56 PM (v0R5T)

140 Sorry to the 'ettes, and especially the South Dakota 'ettes, for that "South Dakota 7/New York 6" joke. But Noem plainly thinks that her looks can overcome the fact that she broke faith with conservatives.
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Who cares what she looks like? We're not looking for a prom date; we're looking for an effective President. I don't care if the most promising candidate looks like Duane Doberman.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 05:57 PM (YqDXo)

141 Withering, Ace. Thank you.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2021 05:57 PM (QIblF)

142 South Dakota 7

New York 6

mcmurdo 10

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 15, 2021 05:57 PM (8tNUK)

143 139 Who's that band in that video?

That's what I'm trying to tell you: Who is the band in that video.
Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (0G13K)
---
What?
Posted by: Axeman at July 15, 2021 05:55 PM (XHhHI)

Where?
Posted by: wth at July 15, 2021 05:56 PM (v0R5T)

I would add 'first base'... but I don't do baseball anymore.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 15, 2021 05:57 PM (oHd/0)

144 Hey! Black Widow is on the Netz.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 05:57 PM (i9ZF7)

145 >>Republicans do this because too many still do not understand -- or refuse to understand -- the nature of the opposition.
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The opposition to Republicans is us. We're the ones who may not understand.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 05:57 PM (1L6wv)

146 How is it possible that politician, PROFESSIONAL politicians, can't seem to grasp that the rules have changed? They're served up opportunity after opportunity to demonstrate that they have a spine and instead they go all Pee Wee Herman.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 05:57 PM (ZsR3z)

147 But when you stand her next to Nancy Pelosi and Chris Christie -- sure, she looks "cute."

==

LOL

Posted by: runner at July 15, 2021 05:57 PM (V13WU)

148 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9qV8Ks_e4A

Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM (0G13K)

Great -- I've now doubled my Seinfeld viewing minutes.

"Hello" -- canned laugh track plays. Oh yeah, hello is hilarious.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 15, 2021 05:58 PM (F0YaR)

149 135 Seattle during the grunge era had the fewest attractive women per capita bar none, in fact, any time you saw a pretty women, she would inevitably be from Oregon.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2021 05:56 PM (Qd835)

So now Kurt Cobain's lyric "What else could I say? Everyone is gay." makes sense....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 15, 2021 05:58 PM (PiwSw)

150 But I think Kristi and her daughters are all pretty good looking, so my views might be skewed on who is cute and who is not.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2021 05:58 PM (23Gju)

151 THIRD BASE!
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (i9ZF7)

Isn't that where the last thread turned for the worse?
Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 05:56 PM (4q7lA)
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But we're well past boobage.

Posted by: Axeman at July 15, 2021 05:58 PM (XHhHI)

152 Ya think most of the good ladies have called it a day after the last thread?
Posted by: JM in Florida at July 15, 2021 05:54 PM (HCeRP)
.......

What did you guys do now?

Posted by: wth at July 15, 2021 05:58 PM (v0R5T)

153 Cow-brigade picks fight, loses badly, and bitches about it.

Yup, she's a Leftist all right!

Posted by: acethepug at July 15, 2021 05:59 PM (qPKAe)

154 I've lived all over the country. NYC had the lowest ratio of pretty girls in my experience.

They tend to congregate in groups in spots. Oregon is kinda average for pretty girls but you go to UofO and its so packed with stunning young ladies you think you've just walked onto the Swedish Bikini Team campus. Never in my life have I see so many beautiful women in one place, not in California, not anywhere.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 05:59 PM (KZzsI)

155
Corrupt Florida cop who loved to plant drug evidence on people during traffic stops has been sentenced to 12 years (He should hang, IMO):

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/
news/article-9792223

The stupid fucker planted evidence while his body cam was on, too. You'll see a clip of him stopping some woman for "intermittent brake lights", then planting drugs.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 15, 2021 05:59 PM (Mzdiz)

156 Stories out there that Chrissy Teigen is going nutz now that she can't cancel and tweet cruel bullshit at people anymore.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 05:59 PM (L2ZTs)

157 But we're well past boobage.

This is my cue.

Posted by: Suprise Anal Otters at July 15, 2021 05:59 PM (FgPjD)

158 But we're well past boobage.
Posted by: Axeman at July 15, 2021 05:58 PM (XHhHI)

I thought that was second base?

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 05:59 PM (4q7lA)

159 Here's the thing: the new left doesn't want communism.

They want feudalism with themselves as new overlords, and they're using this leftist crap to get there.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 05:45 PM (KZzsI)

There's no difference and never has.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 15, 2021 05:59 PM (eoQWY)

160 Who's that band in that video?

Naturally.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 05:59 PM (1L6wv)

161 before we decide her career is over we should give her a chance to show us her tits.

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 15, 2021 05:59 PM (8tNUK)

162 South Dakota girl here.

I am NOT a bit surprised that Kristy is pulling Rhino stunts. She WANTED lockdown powers. She begged the legislature for them and tried pulling a few tricks to get it to happen. The only reason she didn't lockdown anyway is because she also has cockroach DNA and is afraid of sunlight hitting her machinations. Once she started getting national recognition for open business she ran with it though.

I am very pleased she outed herself so she's out of the running.

That being said, I have seen her in person and she is very, very attractive. One of the most naturally attractive people I have ever seen up close. She's even cute without makeup.

And I've been to South Beach.

Posted by: Just Lily. Thread-Winner Elect at July 15, 2021 06:00 PM (rw1l7)

163 "Emily Jashinsky, formerly of the Federalist"

She still works there.

Posted by: ARLDN at July 15, 2021 06:00 PM (0EPnp)

164 154 I've lived all over the country. NYC had the lowest ratio of pretty girls in my experience.

-

visit DC.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at July 15, 2021 06:00 PM (ZZK0E)

165 Wide Receiver?

Posted by: Snizzwit at July 15, 2021 06:00 PM (C2ufB)

166 NYC DJs did that bit in the 70s with The Who, The Guess Who, The Band, and a few others I can not remember. Not as good as Bud and Lou though.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 15, 2021 06:00 PM (p3Qxc)

167 How is it possible that politician, PROFESSIONAL politicians, can't seem to grasp that the rules have changed? They're served up opportunity after opportunity to demonstrate that they have a spine and instead they go all Pee Wee Herman.
Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 05:57 PM (ZsR3z)

Because they rely on time tested political formulas to win, and a whole cadre of "professional" advisors who often live in bubbles surrounded by liberals.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 15, 2021 06:00 PM (jOcSX)

168 The original article from Shriar is a bit unfocused and actually a bit conceited.

I say this because she starts into the bad "aw shucks conservativism". And that seems to be mostly defined as those conservative actions which she finds ineffective in opposing the left's assault against her individual rights as a woman. Yes, it sure looks that way, I agree.

cont...

Posted by: banana Dream at July 15, 2021 06:00 PM (C38z1)

169 But I think Kristi and her daughters are all pretty good looking, so my views might be skewed on who is cute and who is not.
Count me among those who think Noem is very good looking. Still, I can ignore that to see the ugly accommodating pol underneath. Look, I'm growing.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:00 PM (ZsR3z)

170 Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2021 05:40 PM (Zyyst)

Ben Had - It pisses me off that she's still yeah-but-ing about this. She messed up and should own up to it. Her constant rationalization tells me she still doesn't believe that it's a big deal.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at July 15, 2021 06:00 PM (nWxPx)

171 ...cont

But then she segues into the bad "chest-beating conservativism". This seems to be defined as that which deals with all the unimportant stuff, like abortion, and same-sex marriage, and CRT, and trannys, etc. These trivial matters are distracting all of us from the important task of, once again, supporting her individual rights as a woman.

Her advice for conservatives is simple, please do all the things that I personally find important right now and stop doing any of those dumb things that I do not. And stay away from dumb people like Marjorie Taylor Greene. I bet Trump is one of her dumb people.

Now the aw-shucks part is good. Don't get me wrong. But the latter part is not going to play and would be self-defeating anyway. The left builds coalitions of different wants. Why the heck can't we? Mutually supportive good things.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 15, 2021 06:00 PM (C38z1)

172 @RitaPanahi

Communism = misery. Listen to what life is like in Cuba.

https://tinyurl.com/yeon8e9w

Posted by: Tami at July 15, 2021 06:00 PM (cF8AT)

173 I wouldn't care if someone was Rose De Lauro's twin they were truly fighting to beat back socialism in this country.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2021 06:01 PM (Zyyst)

174 I'm feeling California
but looking Minnesota

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 06:01 PM (KZzsI)

175 "However don't forget she jumped straight on conservatives saying we were hypocrites by doing a "cancel culture" of our own."

Yeah it's how she handled everything since that veto. Make one statement explaining why you did what you did, take a cue from Trump by saying something like "Maybe I'm wrong, we'll see" and move on.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 15, 2021 06:01 PM (qH6FZ)

176 pep and Alex:

Also, politicos believe hugely in the power of ignoring everyone they don't like. They think if they just ignore everything forever and continue with business as usual, eventually everyone will give up; and in fairness, they always have before. See: the Tea Party.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 06:02 PM (L2ZTs)

177 before we decide her career is over we should give her a chance to show us her tits.
Posted by: confederatefifth at July 15, 2021 05:59 PM (8tNUK)
........

That's what I like about this crowd, always showing a little compassion and patience.

Posted by: wth at July 15, 2021 06:02 PM (v0R5T)

178 "They have proven they cannot be trusted under fire to defend the American way of life. That's the whole game right there, folks -- not corporate tax rates and child credits."

Hello, Nikki Haley et al.

But yeah, Joy Pullmann nails it right there. The vast, vast majority are celebrated Bureaucrats; they are not Leaders. Not in any sense of the word. They lead by authority of position, but they do not lead. They are Imposers.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 15, 2021 06:02 PM (aXxgO)

179 Is this something?
It's a Mexican female-fronted dreampop band called "Margaritas Podridas" (Rotten Daisies).

N-n-n-n-nope!

Just sounds like a rehash of the 90's "Shoegazer" Fad

Bands like Cocteau Twins, Slow Dive, Catherine Wheel, The Jesus and Mary Chain, My Bloody Valentine, etc, etc, etc

Posted by: naturalfake at July 15, 2021 06:02 PM (5NkmN)

180 I've lived all over the country. NYC had the lowest ratio of pretty girls in my experience.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM

*raises hand*

I would like to nominate Boston.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2021 06:02 PM (rBtIz)

181 That being said, I have seen her in person and she is very, very attractive. One of the most naturally attractive people I have ever seen up close. She's even cute without makeup.

And I've been to South Beach.
Posted by: Just Lily. Thread-Winner Elect at July 15, 2021 06:00 PM (rw1l7

Go on...

Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 06:02 PM (4fSQf)

182 hey look, then again if we continue to lose GA and other states with inventive voter laws and black-box ballot counting, then it doesn't matter how mad we are.

We just got done with the GOP's 30 year surrender to the teacher unions. And now, we're starting a new era of surrendering on whatever it is China thinks would be the most humiliating thing for a nation to do.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at July 15, 2021 06:02 PM (ZZK0E)

183 The left never says, we'd like to pass this law but it wouldn't be prudent, it'll never survive a legal challenge. Courts be damned, they pass it and require the issue to be litigated at great time and expense. The right fold like this all the time though, because they are losers who are happy to lose.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2021 06:02 PM (QU5/8)

184 I've lived all over the country. NYC had the lowest ratio of pretty girls in my experience.

yeah because the pretty girls from nyc move to the sticks.

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 15, 2021 06:03 PM (8tNUK)

185 NYC DJs did that bit in the 70s with The Who, The Guess Who, The Band, and a few others I can not remember. Not as good as Bud and Lou though.

I remember that, it was pretty fun but no, not as good as the classic. Almost nothing is, they really struck gold with that idea.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 06:03 PM (KZzsI)

186 How is it possible that politician, PROFESSIONAL politicians, can't seem to grasp that the rules have changed? They're served up opportunity after opportunity to demonstrate that they have a spine and instead they go all Pee Wee Herman.
Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 05:57 PM (ZsR3z)

You said it all up there. Professional politicians. Their job is to lie to us and then pretend they did what they could but if they only had all three branches, Hollywood, the media, the universities, Cuba, and the CCP (BIRM) , then we could really get stuff done.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:03 PM (1L6wv)

187 Congratulations to Kristi Noem in the birth of her first grandchild two weeks ago! Great news.

Fair and balanced, that's what we are.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (23Gju)

188 Serious question. Why was she even invited to CPAC after her transgender nonsense?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (VWp7G)

189 We had 4 fucking years of politicians a d government employees at all levels refusing to follow Trumps orders because "Not my president".

With Biden, on a simple issue of fireworks at Mt Rushmore, that would have caved with the slightest pushback, Noem got down and licked Biden's boots.

Simple issue of pass the bill and let them sue, she got down and licked the NCAAs boots.

What I am saying is Noem likes being on her knees.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (gpKIi)

190 Noem isn't unattractive, and even a few years ago she was a smokeshow. The problem is, as others have mentioned, she's hit the infamous age where a woman has to decide between her face and her ass. She's decided on her ass, working out a lot and dieting.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (jOcSX)

191 yeah because the pretty girls from nyc move to the sticks.

I think its not about moving but about what women think is cute and stylish in small town vs big city. Chances of you seeing a girl with a sun dress, bare feet, and a straw hat with a ribbon in NYC are pretty slender.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (KZzsI)

192 Not defending Noem but the horde agrees on 90% of issues but they will ban you to the fires of hell on that 10% disagreement. Our individuality is our strongest personal trait and our weakest political trait.

Attacking each other is unfortunately what conservatives do too often. Guilty as charged though I try to make a conscious effort not to go to eleventy.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (2DOZq)

193 The all star game will be in S. Dakota next year. The state is sufficiently woke now.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (SOBYU)

194 She crashed faster than Sara Palin.

Sarah Palin was stabbed in the back by her own party. She would have never made the Noem mistake.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (y7DUB)

195 You said it all up there. Professional politicians. Their job is to lie to us and then pretend they did what they could but if they only had all three branches, Hollywood, the media, the universities, Cuba, and the CCP (BIRM) , then we could really get stuff done.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:03 PM (1L6wv)

This is the most irksome thing to me. Fool me me three hundred times, shame on me.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (i9ZF7)

196 Florida was honestly in a better position regarding college sports. No one really cares if the NCAA cancels a tournament in Sioux Falls, but people will get pissed if the tournament in Miami gets cancelled.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

Sometimes you fight even though you might lose, or know you will lose, because "not fighting" ends up as losing anyways.
Sometimes just being in the fight tells us that you are not afraid to take a risk for something that is important.
She will spend a year, at least, defending this "lack of fight", when she could have just signed a bill, know it might have had flaws, just to signal...I am going to stand and fight for what I think is right.
Now, she finds herself fighting with other so-called conservatives over this issue.
She is fighting, but the wrong people over the wrong cause. The ONLY way she can win is if the legislature in S. Dakota gives her the bill she wants (allegedly) and then signs it.
Someone mentioned Joe Scarborough as a Reagan conservative. Was he? Was George H.W. Bush, who was actually Reagan's VP?
Was Peggy Noonan, who was a Reagan speech writer?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at July 15, 2021 06:05 PM (tjZg/)

197 59 Republicans are always willing to attack other republicans and throw them under the bus.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 15, 2021 05:45 PM (gpKIi)

I'm willing to burn DC to the ground. All of it.....and everyone in it.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 15, 2021 06:05 PM (Fs5vw)

198 >>> Who's that band in that video?

That's what I'm trying to tell you: Who is the band in that video.
Posted by: ace at July 15, 2021 05:53 PM (0G13K)
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What?
Posted by: Axeman at July 15, 2021 05:55 PM (XHhHI)
......

Where?
Posted by: wth at July 15, 2021 05:56 PM (v0R5T)

Yes

Posted by: banana Dream at July 15, 2021 06:05 PM (C38z1)

199 "No governor ever got a bill put on their desk and handed to them like my legislature first gave me. And I gave them a style-informed revision, asked them to change it, and they refused."

She always says this but is never specific about what she wanted changed...or at least I've never heard it.

Posted by: Tami at July 15, 2021 06:05 PM (cF8AT)

200 She a bit bitchy, no ?

Posted by: runner at July 15, 2021 06:05 PM (V13WU)

201 Girls are going to have to be paralyzed and killed for this to be taken seriously.

In the meantime, every single women's record in every single sport needs to be smashed.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2021 06:05 PM (EvG/x)

202 Chances of you seeing a girl with a sun dress, bare feet, and a straw hat with a ribbon in NYC are pretty slender.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM

*sigh*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2021 06:05 PM (rBtIz)

203 Get her off stage, she is not ready for prime time or will ever be.

Posted by: runner at July 15, 2021 06:06 PM (V13WU)

204 That federalist piece is good reminder, we're in an era of no consensus with liberal lunatics. I can't even. First against the wall, folks.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at July 15, 2021 06:06 PM (ZZK0E)

205 Yes

Going for the one?

Posted by: Bosk at July 15, 2021 06:06 PM (FgPjD)

206 yeah because the pretty girls from nyc move to the sticks.

I think its not about moving but about what women think is cute and stylish in small town vs big city. Chances of you seeing a girl with a sun dress, bare feet, and a straw hat with a ribbon in NYC are pretty slender.

sure but there are going to be more pretty girls in nyc than there are in sioux falls because pretty girls go to where there are opportunities for pretty girls. there are more of those in the city than there are in a farm town.

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 15, 2021 06:06 PM (8tNUK)

207 You can't lose the fight if you never enjoin the battle. Fucking dem's relitigate everything thrice over.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2021 06:06 PM (Zyyst)

208 188 Serious question. Why was she even invited to CPAC after her transgender nonsense?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (VWp7G

*Raises hand

Oh! Pick me! Pick me!

Because CPAC is just another grifty bullshit just like Conservative circle jerks.

Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 06:06 PM (4fSQf)

209 If conservatives states don't pass bills that get overturned by the Lefty courts, the courts then get to say Settled Law.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:06 PM (i9ZF7)

210 However don't forget she jumped straight on conservatives saying we were hypocrites by doing a "cancel culture" of our own. It was total bullshit and that was her peacock colors on full display. So the bill, and her action on the bill, doesn't matter. She is a blue blood.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 05:56 PM (1L6wv)

I recall now her appearance on Tucker's show trying to defend her decision. Tucker worked her over and she was totes unconvincing.

Maybe she'd make a good ambassador to Turkey.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 15, 2021 06:07 PM (F0YaR)

211 >>>Sarah Palin was stabbed in the back by her own party. She would have never made the Noem mistake.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt

Agreed 100%.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 15, 2021 06:07 PM (VWp7G)

212 205 Yes

Going for the one?
Posted by: Bosk at July 15, 2021 06:06 PM (FgPjD)

Long Distance Runaround

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 15, 2021 06:07 PM (PiwSw)

213 Palin was one of the first early warning tests for the GOPe. How many of those who dumped on her are now saying Trump was horrible, election completely above board, destroy the GOP, etc?

I am not saying she was fantastic (she was incandescent in that one speech) but you also have to have better instincts than she displayed. She trusted fucking johnny maverick mccain for fuck's sake.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:07 PM (csEWM)

214 See: the Tea Party.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2021 06:02 PM (L2ZTs)
------------/
The tea party fizzled because the entire GOPe and federal govt was used to destroy them. And from the ashes rose trump.
The next iteration will be even more aggressive. Watch.

Posted by: Drc at July 15, 2021 06:07 PM (llGBY)

215 >>>*Raises hand

Oh! Pick me! Pick me!

Because CPAC is just another grifty bullshit just like Conservative circle jerks.
Posted by: Alabama

Ugh, that should have been my first guess.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 15, 2021 06:07 PM (VWp7G)

216 The voters set me up!

Posted by: Kristi Noem at July 15, 2021 06:07 PM (1L6wv)

217 The other thing: it can be quite hard to tell what will survive legal scrutiny and what won't. In the initial Obamacare challenge, all the Internet's most respectable legal commenters assured everyone who would listen that the commerce clause challenge was pure hogwash that would never prevail. It did prevail, 5-4, and but for Robert's preposterous last-minute "it's a tax" cowardice, would have spelled the end of that legislation. Controversial legal issues are not just about the law, even in court. The only ironclad rule is that you can't fight wars you refuse to wage.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2021 06:07 PM (QU5/8)

218

She needs to get a boob job, some tattoos, some piercings, and do anal milf videos... That'll get her some attention and money!

Posted by: Snizzwit at July 15, 2021 06:08 PM (C2ufB)

219 Hello, Nikki Haley et al.

But yeah, Joy Pullmann nails it right there. The vast, vast majority are celebrated Bureaucrats; they are not Leaders. Not in any sense of the word. They lead by authority of position, but they do not lead. They are Imposers.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 15, 2021 06:02 PM (aXxgO)

A real governor wouldn't let local business interests dominate her and own her. If she sponsored the bill and what will they do? Admit that they tried to bribe her to hurt young women and girls? She could have had the whole state burning down the assholes' businesses.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 15, 2021 06:08 PM (eoQWY)

220 Why was she even invited to CPAC after her transgender nonsense?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (VWp7G)

CPAC has more than its share of unforced look at me errors.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:08 PM (y7DUB)

221 Chances of you seeing a girl with a sun dress, bare feet, and a straw hat with a ribbon in NYC are pretty slender.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (KZzsI)

If you DO see one, better do the Crocodile Dundee check.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:08 PM (YqDXo)

222 I don't know, Ace, Stronk and White have a pretty good writing guide.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 15, 2021 06:08 PM (jS8r9)

223 Watch out Kristi, that bill is a trap!

Posted by: State Senator Akbar at July 15, 2021 06:08 PM (23Gju)

224
Sarah Palin was stabbed in the back by her own party. She would have never made the Noem mistake.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (y7DUB)

Stabbed in the back by many on this blog also.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (Fs5vw)

225 She needs to get a boob job, some tattoos, some piercings, and do anal milf videos... That'll get her some attention and money!
Posted by: S

that is where she is going anyway, why do you think she is going after desantis?

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (8tNUK)

226 The tea party fizzled because the entire GOPe and federal govt was used to destroy them. And from the ashes rose trump.
The next iteration will be even more aggressive. Watch.
Posted by: Drc at July 15, 2021 06:07 PM (llGBY)

The Tea Party was us asking nicely.
Trump was us insisting.
The next one won't be so nice.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (i9ZF7)

227 I am not saying she was fantastic (she was incandescent in that one
speech) but you also have to have better instincts than she displayed.
She trusted fucking johnny maverick mccain for fuck's sake.
I doubt she trusted him, but what did she have to lose? She was the gov of AL, for Pete's sake, and really had nowhere else to go. McCain giving her the veep slot was seen as a gift at the time.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (ZsR3z)

228 It's not accurate to say the GOPe is doing nothing on all of the sexual perversion issues. They're certainly raising money off those things.
"Can you believe what those crazy Democrats are doing? Please send me money so that I can, well...I don't know. But I'm not a Democrat!"

Posted by: Wally at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (Cge5i)

229 "She a bit bitchy, no ?"

That's another problem she faced moving forward. It's going to be a problem for most of them post Trump. The guy's a happy warrior, he doesn't take everything seriously.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (qH6FZ)

230 >>>The governor argued that the bill as written would have been defeated in the courts if it were challenged by opponents like the NCAA.

You don't know that for sure. You sign the bill and take it from there.

Posted by: DB- just DB at July 15, 2021 06:10 PM (iTXRQ)

231
Ben Had - It pisses me off that she's still yeah-but-ing about this. She messed up and should own up to it. Her constant rationalization tells me she still doesn't believe that it's a big deal.
Posted by: Russkilitlover

This is correct. She is willing to fight...her own side, to prove that she did not make a mistake.
And...that's a mistake too. She compounded her first mistake with making another mistake.
And picking on DeSantis is her third mistake.

What will be her last mistake? Or, has she already made it?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at July 15, 2021 06:10 PM (tjZg/)

232 I've lived all over the country. NYC had the lowest ratio of pretty girls in my experience.
Posted by: Just a side note at July 15, 2021 05:51 PM

*raises hand*

I would like to nominate Boston.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2021 06:02 PM

it's obvious that neither of you have ever been to The Peoples' Republik of AnnArbor

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2021 06:10 PM (DUIap)

233 The tea party fizzled because the entire GOPe and federal govt was used to destroy them. And from the ashes rose trump.
The next iteration will be even more aggressive. Watch.
Posted by: Drc at July 15, 2021 06:07 PM (llGBY)

The Tea party died with a crazed leftist named Loughner who The Democrats, media and Republicans (BIRM) helped convince America was an angry tea partier.

I watched it happen in real time. Support for the Tea Party dropped and they were done. The fact that it was all grifters like Rubio put the icing on the sundae.

Posted by: Kristi Noem at July 15, 2021 06:10 PM (1L6wv)

234 Stabbed in the back by many on this blog also.
Posted by: Justsayin' at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (Fs5vw)

Can I air a pet peeve? I really dislike this formulation. Do these people have names? Can you not remember them?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:10 PM (i9ZF7)

235 She was the gov of AL, for Pete's sake
AK

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:10 PM (ZsR3z)

236 Was Peggy Noonan, who was a Reagan speech writer?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at July 15, 2021 06:05 PM (tjZg/)

She likely was when he was in power and she held a job with him. That doesn't mean she can hold on to that standard afterward, even if she wanted to.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 15, 2021 06:11 PM (eoQWY)

237 I doubt she trusted him, but what did she have to lose? She was the gov of AL, for Pete's sake, and really had nowhere else to go. McCain giving her the veep slot was seen as a gift at the time.
Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (ZsR3z)

AK. Not AL

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, State Abbreviation Nazi at July 15, 2021 06:11 PM (PiwSw)

238 She trusted fucking johnny maverick mccain for fuck's sake.
=================
and you voted for who in that election? Back in those days I stepped in the GOP line too, thinking it was my best hope.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2021 06:11 PM (23Gju)

239 was she even being cnsidered for something besides a bikini calndar?

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 15, 2021 06:12 PM (8tNUK)

240 it's obvious that neither of you have ever been to The Peoples' Republik of AnnArbor
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2021 06:10 PM

This is true.

*shudders*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2021 06:12 PM (rBtIz)

241 207 You can't lose the fight if you never enjoin the battle. Fucking dem's relitigate everything thrice over.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2021 06:06 PM (Zyyst)
-----------------------

And they never quit. That cocksucker Scott Wiener keeps introducing catastrophically bad legislation to the CA legislature, gets stymied, introduces it again. And again. And again.

Same thing with Wetback of the Year Lorena Gonzalez, she who gutted the gig economy here, and now wants to ream out people who followed the state's urging to get solar panels.

They don't quit after one setback. They're like the Terminator, and just keep coming back until they get their way.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:12 PM (YqDXo)

242 ... what Abigail Shrier has dubbed "Aw, Shucks" Conservatism -- a "conservatism" of cringing cowardice.

-----

The north star of the well-fed Right is cowardice and submission.

[h/t Jeremy Carl and William F. Buckley, Jr.]

Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2021 06:12 PM (pPbje)

243 What will be her last mistake? Or, has she already made it?
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at July 15, 2021 06:10 PM (tjZg/)

Well, she seems to be thinking that bringing it up again after losing the first few times around will somehow make it all not happen. That's pretty much always another mistake. Best to just shut up about that and try and find a new cause to cover up the old blunder.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 15, 2021 06:12 PM (eoQWY)

244 Palin was one of the first early warning tests for the GOPe. How many of those who dumped on her are now saying Trump was horrible, election completely above board, destroy the GOP, etc?

--

the GOP's script during their last 15 years of surrender failure theater was to tank a candidate, then blame their values for that loss.

You see for left, whenever they lose, it's because they didn't articutlate their brilliance in enough guttural tones for hoi polloi to grok.

The GOP loses, it's because we're old, white losers who should shuffle off to die so the ethnic communist future can get on with their rad abortion dance offs.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at July 15, 2021 06:13 PM (ZZK0E)

245 AK. Not AL
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, State Abbreviation Nazi at July 15, 2021 06:11 PM

Forget it, he's rolling.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2021 06:13 PM (rBtIz)

246 238 She trusted fucking johnny maverick mccain for fuck's sake.
=================
and you voted for who in that election? Back in those days I stepped in the GOP line too, thinking it was my best hope.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2021 06:11 PM (23Gju)

I did, God help me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:13 PM (csEWM)

247 Glenn Greenwald....more conservative than any GOP senator...and most GOP reps....think about that.

Posted by: BignJames at July 15, 2021 06:13 PM (AwYPR)

248 Palin has character and massive charisma. She is a leader. this Noem chick is nothing of a sort.

Posted by: runner at July 15, 2021 06:13 PM (V13WU)

249 Can I air a pet peeve? I really dislike this formulation. Do these people have names? Can you not remember them?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:10 PM (i9ZF7)

Umm, ace?

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 06:13 PM (4q7lA)

250 The Tea Party was us asking nicely.
Trump was us insisting.
The next one won't be so nice.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (i9ZF7)

Go back a few more years, to Ross Perot... think about how he was suddenly a LOON... painted so by leaks from 'Law Enforcement and Intelligence' types, and the media.

Now... fast forward to how Donald Trump was treated...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 15, 2021 06:13 PM (oHd/0)

251 Every day I imagine Songbird's boney hand rising from his grave to give me the finger.

And I voted for the guy, twice.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:14 PM (i9ZF7)

252 Stabbed in the back by many on this blog also.
Posted by: Justsayin' at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (Fs5vw)

Honestly, I do not think anyone who critisized Palin at the time is still here? 2016 took care of a LOT of that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:14 PM (csEWM)

253 Sarah Palin was stabbed in the back by her own party. She would have never made the Noem mistake.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:04 PM (y7DUB)

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Well, she did endorse John McLame in 2010. Apparently, that wasn't enough to for the GOPe. Go figure.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 15, 2021 06:14 PM (TNyrE)

254 I would love to play poker with Noem. The card game, you degenerates.

You should fold, Kristi. Too much risk.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2021 06:14 PM (kTF2Z)

255 245 Even with zip codes and electronic scanning and sorting I've had mail routed through AK and AL instead of AR.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at July 15, 2021 06:14 PM (I58tH)

256 The Tea Party was us asking nicely.

Trump was us insisting.

The next one won't be so nice.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (i9ZF7)

============
Secretly, deep down, who doesn't want some of those surplus F15's and nukes Biden promised us. I'll need a bigger canoe, but still....

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2021 06:14 PM (23Gju)

257 they didn't articutlate their brilliance in enough guttural tones for hoi polloi to grok.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at July 15, 2021 06:13 PM

300 quatloos for proper usage of hoi polloi.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2021 06:14 PM (rBtIz)

258 GOP = Surrender Monkeys on everything.

The GOP makes the French look down right heroic.

Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (4fSQf)

259 Real leader would have had fireworks at Mount Rushmore on 4th of July, regardless of what brainless in DC had to say.

Posted by: runner at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (V13WU)

260 She likely was when he was in power and she held a job with him. That doesn't mean she can hold on to that standard afterward, even if she wanted to.
Posted by: Oldcat

I read her book "What I Saw at the Revolution", many years ago, and even then, I sort of wondered. She was on CSPAN and some other talking head shows a lot in the 90's, and she looked pretty good then.
She was married to Richard Rahn, who was also a very conservative stalwart. Was part of CATO (hmmm) but now writes financial newsletters.
So how idealogically determined were they all, after all?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.....Living on the prison planet at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (tjZg/)

261 Bozo, she has a few more bridges she can burn. When DC said they were doing the fireworks she was given a gift and pissed on it.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (Zyyst)

262 I am not saying she was fantastic (she was incandescent in that one
speech) but you also have to have better instincts than she displayed.
She trusted fucking johnny maverick mccain for fuck's sake.
I doubt she trusted him, but what did she have to lose? She was the gov of AL, for Pete's sake, and really had nowhere else to go. McCain giving her the veep slot was seen as a gift at the time.
Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (ZsR3z)

There's no way to undo history and know this but I constantly wonder what her career trajectory would have been if McPlanecrash had chosen someone else and she could have progressed at a less accelerated rate.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (y7DUB)

263 I would like to nominate Boston.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2021 06:02 PM

it's obvious that neither of you have ever been to The Peoples' Republik of AnnArbor
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2021 06:10 PM (DUIap)

Berkeley has/had this problem. Week one of the fall quarter. Lots of attractive, well-groomed, and well-dressed young ladies. A month later they'd adopted the Berkeley uniform: dirty, stringy hair, filthy sweatshirt, torn jeans, and an extra 15 lbs.

Used to break my heart.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (YqDXo)

264
Noem blew it when she went on Tucker a few months ago about NCAA trannies

would still go hot tubbin with her, but would not vote for her

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (bTQ72)

265
If DeSantis was Governor of South Dakota there would have been fireworks at Mt Rushmore on the 4th.

Posted by: M 80-80 at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (shkhG)

266 Ok but hear me out, precise drone strikes by those located in South Georgia Plantations and Hunting Camps.

@FOX5Atlanta
"Crime is an all-time high. We're getting ready to be in a position where we may have to release murderers. This is not a third-world country, this is Fulton County."

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (U8H2e)

267 300 quatloos for proper usage of hoi polloi.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2021 06:14 PM (rBtIz)

It's like assless chaps, isn't it?

Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (4fSQf)

268 Ross Perot was kind of a weird and he was paranoid but he wasn't as crazy as he was shown to be.

I just think his playing spoiler because of his personal hate for Bush so we could get Billy freaking Clinton for 8 years is not something I'm willing to ignore.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (KZzsI)

269 Palin has character and massive charisma. She is a leader. this Noem chick is nothing of a sort.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2021 06:13 PM (V13WU)

It was obvious from jump. I did try hard to like her but my first impression was squish. Even thought she made a number of the right noises. But they all do that when it's convenient or they need to fool us.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (1L6wv)

270 One of the reasons I like both MTG and Lauren Boebert is they're like Trump as I said upthread, they're happy warriors. Got a good snark game.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (qH6FZ)

271 There's no way to undo history and know this but I constantly wonder what her career trajectory would have been if McPlanecrash had chosen someone else and she could have progressed at a less accelerated rate.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (y7DUB)

I dunno. Trump/Palin 2016?

Holy shit, that might just have been awesome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (csEWM)

272
Nicole Wallace is looking like a un-sex'd hag

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (bTQ72)

273 Stabbed in the back by many on this blog also.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (Fs5vw)

Can I air a pet peeve? I really dislike this formulation. Do these people have names? Can you not remember them?
Not seeing the problem.

Posted by: Many at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (ZsR3z)

274 If you introduce a piece of leftist legislation enough times, eventually the goalposts move and it becomes the TrueCon position.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (gpKIi)

275 300 quatloos for proper usage of hoi polloi.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2021 06:14 PM (rBtIz)

I do not mix with hoi polloi !

Posted by: runner at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (V13WU)

276 Palin's biggest flaw was Johnny asshole.
I could not, and did not vote for him.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at July 15, 2021 06:17 PM (p3Qxc)

277 300 quatloos for proper usage of hoi polloi.

I thought it was a Hawaiian dish.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:17 PM (i9ZF7)

278 It's like assless chaps, isn't it?
Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM

Exactly. And don't get me started on what the English did to pronunciation, either. Pains my ancestral Greek ears.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2021 06:17 PM (rBtIz)

279 Palin open the door for broaching sticky subjects. PDT did not miss that lesson.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2021 06:18 PM (Zyyst)

280 I memba when ace was all pissed at us for liking that rube Palin. We were a bunch of anti-intellectuals and stuff.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 06:18 PM (4q7lA)

281
40% of US china virus deaths had diabetes

78% of China virus'd that ended up in hoppital were obese

there is a puzzle in this

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 15, 2021 06:18 PM (bTQ72)

282 Honestly, I do not remember many criticizing her anyway. Maybe Gabe- because he was a catty liberal bitch.

Drew?

Not JohnE.

chemjeff?

MooMoo?

I am having to go pretty far afield here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:18 PM (csEWM)

283 There's no way to undo history and know this but I constantly wonder what her career trajectory would have been if McPlanecrash had chosen someone else and she could have progressed at a less accelerated rate.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (y7DUB)

Her daughter's pregnancy and they dope Levi hurt her. The media showed they were willing to do anything to stop her - including going after her underage children - and it took a lot of people, including her, by surprise. And she was green to begin with. So yeah things could have definitely been different.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:18 PM (1L6wv)

284 300 quatloos for proper usage of hoi polloi.

The student bar on campus at William and Mary was called the Hoi Polloi. Of course, I had no idea what it meant at the time.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:19 PM (ZsR3z)

285 Hollow point for one.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 06:19 PM (4q7lA)

286
A while back, Tucker Carlson publicly apologized (posthumously) to Ross Perot. He said, You you were right, and I was a d-bag to attack you, basically.

He was right. Yeah, he hated Poppy Bush. He was right to hate Poppy from what we now know.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 15, 2021 06:19 PM (Mzdiz)

287 Nicole Wallace is looking like a un-sex'd hag
Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (bTQ72)

I used to think she was somewhat attractive before listening to her witlessness.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:19 PM (y7DUB)

288 I dunno. Trump/Palin 2016?

Holy shit, that might just have been awesome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (csEWM)

---------------
Agreed. That would have been a kick to the balls of the GOPe leadership.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 15, 2021 06:19 PM (TNyrE)

289 00 quatloos for proper usage of hoi polloi.

something to soothe sun burn and vd?

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 15, 2021 06:19 PM (8tNUK)

290 I have zero interest in Kristi Noem as a future candidate, but I like the grandchild. Pictures!
https://tinyurl.com/9djtepbs

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2021 06:19 PM (23Gju)

291 I memba when ace was all pissed at us for liking that rube Palin

He was all in on Giuliani uber alles and she was taking some of his attention away.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 06:20 PM (KZzsI)

292 280 I memba when ace was all pissed at us for liking that rube Palin. We were a bunch of anti-intellectuals and stuff.
Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 06:18 PM (4q7lA)

Did ace? I remember him being skeptical of Trump- but a lot of us were, myself included.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:20 PM (csEWM)

293 Honestly, I do not remember many criticizing her anyway. Maybe Gabe- because he was a catty liberal bitch.

I am having to go pretty far afield here.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:18 PM (csEWM)

Oh there was quite a lot including the boss. It was rough supporting her here for a while. Lots of ahoys and palinistos.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:20 PM (1L6wv)

294 I'm looking at pictures of Noem online and she looks different in most of them. I think she's had some plastic surgery. Her lips used to be thinner. And a nose job? Look at this pic.

https://bit.ly/3wIJKqz

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 15, 2021 06:20 PM (O+I8R)

295 I have zero interest in Kristi Noem as a future candidate, but I like the grandchild. Pictures!
https://tinyurl.com/9djtepbs
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 15, 2021 06:19 PM (23Gju)

Fine head of hair.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:20 PM (i9ZF7)

296 Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (1L6wv)

I know this isn't a popular thing to say but I'm glad Sarah didn't finish out as Governor of AK.
She grew the state budget in leaps and bounds.
Really. To me she was a terrible governor.
Hindsight tho. I did vote for her.

Posted by: Bosk at July 15, 2021 06:20 PM (FgPjD)

297 I dunno. Trump/Palin 2016?

Holy shit, that might just have been awesome.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (csEWM)

Gotta disagree. Palin is a featherweight.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:21 PM (YqDXo)

298 266. Two things, if you have to tell people you aren't a third world country, you are.

And if you have to take actions like a third world country, you also are.

Posted by: Bete at July 15, 2021 06:21 PM (+Ccq4)

299 do not mix with hoi polloi !
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM

Now I'm just hearing Spaulding saying "Ahoy, polloi!"

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2021 06:21 PM (rBtIz)

300 There's no way to undo history and know this but I constantly wonder what her career trajectory would have been if McPlanecrash had chosen someone else and she could have progressed at a less accelerated rate.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:15 PM (y7DUB)

Her daughter's pregnancy and they dope Levi hurt her. The media showed they were willing to do anything to stop her - including going after her underage children - and it took a lot of people, including her, by surprise. And she was green to begin with. So yeah things could have definitely been different.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:18 PM (1L6wv)

Her daughter's inability to keep her pants on or understand birth control wasn't a point in her favor.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:21 PM (y7DUB)

301 I was not a Palin fan but I supported and defended her just as I have Trump. As I said , I consciously try to focus on the enemy and not people on my team during the game.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 15, 2021 06:21 PM (2DOZq)

302 ace told us we were all a bunch of children for wanting what we wanted with Trump. He quit the Republicans and said he was going with Hillary.

It was funny because he turned and still had a vicious anti-trump statement in his Twitter bio when he was slagging NTs on Twitter

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 06:21 PM (4q7lA)

303
Can I air a pet peeve? I really dislike this formulation. Do these people have names? Can you not remember them?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:10 PM (i9ZF7)

I'm sure the threads during that time are archived. Go look for yourself. It was a major topic.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 15, 2021 06:21 PM (Fs5vw)

304 I just think his playing spoiler because of his personal hate for Bush so we could get Billy freaking Clinton for 8 years is not something I'm willing to ignore.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (KZzsI)

OK, we KNOW we have Conspiracy types in our own intelligence community. Now, considering the Papa Bush was instrumental in the creation of the Deep State?

You don't think its possible that Perot was not paranoid, but DID get some information that he was under threat? But the intel types then leaked he was a loon, and there was no threat?

Kinda like Russian Collusion? Or Pee Pee docs? or a Peaceful protest morphing into an armed insurrection?

Actually, it may have been a GOOD thing that Pappy Bush got defeated... even if it did bring on Clinton... who knows how powerful the entrenched deep state would be if he had 4 more years at the helm.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 15, 2021 06:21 PM (oHd/0)

305 "This is not a third-world country, this is Fulton County."

High crime. No middle class. Rigged elections. Explain to me how Fulton County ISN'T third world.

Posted by: Wally at July 15, 2021 06:22 PM (Cge5i)

306 Trump/Palin would have caused all the right aneurisms.

Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 06:22 PM (4fSQf)

307 Really don't get how these up and coming can turn into Leftist stooges.

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2021 06:22 PM (Cxk7w)

308 who knows how powerful the entrenched deep state would be if he had 4 more years at the helm.

I fail to see how having Clinton in office changes anything at all about the deep state power grab

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 06:22 PM (KZzsI)

309 Gotta disagree. Palin is a featherweight.
Yeah, I've come around to that point of view. I think I was swayed by her "assets".

The power of chest compels you!

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:23 PM (ZsR3z)

310 Gotta disagree. Palin is a featherweight.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:21 PM (YqDXo)

She strikes me as a good person. That is what we need in government in an ideal world. She had a boatload of charisma, but perhaps not the right feel for people.

This is in no way an ideal world.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:23 PM (csEWM)

311 270 One of the reasons I like both MTG and Lauren Boebert is they're like Trump as I said upthread, they're happy warriors. Got a good snark game.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 15, 2021 06:16 PM (qH6FZ)
--------------

Yes. MTG ran a construction company, she understands - no prisoners -
and she, like Rand Paul, worked up her own donor base - iow - take hike RNC

Posted by: Braenyard at July 15, 2021 06:23 PM (4DHSI)

312 Some day I'm sure I'll hear that Trump was mostly loved around here from the start.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:23 PM (1L6wv)

313 Stabbed in the back by many on this blog also.
Posted by: Justsayin' at July 15, 2021 06:09 PM (Fs5vw)

Honestly, I do not think anyone who critisized Palin at the time is still here? 2016 took care of a LOT of that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:14 PM (csEWM)

Many sounds like a stretch as well. Palin had overwhelming support here after the convention speech. The Heart Attack/ Palin ticket was probably what got even quite a few people on board.

Posted by: Sjg at July 15, 2021 06:24 PM (gDSJf)

314 I'm sure the threads during that time are archived. Go look for yourself. It was a major topic.
Posted by: Justsayin' at July 15, 2021 06:21 PM (Fs5vw)

I'm not meaning to single you out, I just really dislike it and we get to much of it here. The Morons are fine people. There have been some posters who did X or Y but if you can't even bother to name them, it's a lazy broad brush that implies too much, or so I see it.

YMMV.

and apropos of nothing, isn't it about time we had a Flame War Friday?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:24 PM (i9ZF7)

315 Let me say though that the whole experience ruined Palin. I think she turned to the dark side of fame.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 06:24 PM (4q7lA)

316 Some day I'm sure I'll hear that Trump was mostly loved around here from the start.
Incorrect. There have been many, myself very much included, who have said they were wrong about Trump.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:24 PM (ZsR3z)

317 High crime. No middle class. Rigged elections. Explain to me how Fulton County ISN'T third world.

Posted by: Wally at July 15, 2021 06:22 PM (Cge5i)

Wait till they start drawing that $300/mo/kid....they'll be a rich 3rd world county.

Posted by: BignJames at July 15, 2021 06:24 PM (AwYPR)

318
The Deep State has always been entrenched no matter who wins. Poppy or Bubba. Oh, there's difference in domestic policy and little shit around the edges. This is bread and circuses for the rubes.

But the stuff that really matters, it's the same. Trump was the first one who was actually going to change that. Which is why the nuclear level freak-out by the Deep State and their oligarch masters.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 15, 2021 06:24 PM (Mzdiz)

319 If Noem has said to Biden

"The ND State Police are escorting the Fireworks team to Mt Rushmore. I dare you to stop me"

She would have been high on the list for 24.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 15, 2021 06:25 PM (gpKIi)

320 Lotta guys on here who understand that if they'd been in HS or college with Kristi, they wouldn't have had a snowball's chance in hell of getting laid by her.

I guess all that long held, pent-up frustration has to surface somehow. In this case, constantly attacking her because she might actually have had planned a more effective way than SD first proposed to combat the imposition of transgenderism into children's lives. Grow up, betas.

Posted by: Dagwood at July 15, 2021 06:25 PM (fBzrD)

321 Yeah the head of the Deep State couldn't get himself re-elected. Be better Bush !!!

Posted by: Just a side note at July 15, 2021 06:26 PM (2DOZq)

322 If Noem has said to Biden

"The ND State Police are escorting the Fireworks team to Mt Rushmore. I dare you to stop me"

She would have been high on the list for 24.

Right? It's so simple. Take the opportunity to demonstrate a spine and run with it.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:26 PM (ZsR3z)

323 Wally you answered yourself

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2021 06:26 PM (Cxk7w)

324 Stabbed in the back
and you're to blame
Honey you give love a bad name

Posted by: Botched Jovi at July 15, 2021 06:26 PM (v0R5T)

325 In this case, constantly attacking her because she might actually have had planned a more effective way than SD first proposed to combat the imposition of transgenderism into children's lives.

Do you reckon she will reveal it at some point?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:26 PM (i9ZF7)

326 Wait till they start drawing that $300/mo/kid....they'll be a rich 3rd world county.
Posted by: BignJames at July 15, 2021 06:24 PM (AwYPR)

And looking at the demographics of my local schools?

Most of that damn money will be going to illegals.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 15, 2021 06:26 PM (oHd/0)

327 There's no way to judge Palin a featherweight. She barely got out of the starting gate before the lawsuits were flying. She went knives out right after the corruption and they attacked her nonstop.

I'd have liked to see what she could have accomplished in spite of the aristocracy's disgust for her flyover accent.

Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 06:26 PM (4fSQf)

328 Incorrect. There have been many, myself very much included, who have said they were wrong about Trump.
Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:24 PM (ZsR3z)

I'm not singling anyone out. There was a quite a raft of Palin hate here at one time. I can't pinpoint when. Maybe it was after she resigned?

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:26 PM (1L6wv)

329 Dagwood way to white knight!

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 06:26 PM (4q7lA)

330 Wally Philadelphia would prove the same if their votes were looked at.

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2021 06:27 PM (Cxk7w)

331 312 Some day I'm sure I'll hear that Trump was mostly loved around here from the start.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:23 PM (1L6wv)

I was against Trump at the beginning. I thought he would be a squish (kind of like I assumed Giuliani or Donut New Jersey guy would be.) I was wrong. It is important not to forget that your snap assumption of people can be wrong, but that in the end people show you who they are.

Trump changed my opinion by what he DID. Is he perfect? No.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:27 PM (csEWM)

332 I know this isn't a popular thing to say but I'm glad Sarah didn't finish out as Governor of AK.
She grew the state budget in leaps and bounds.
Really. To me she was a terrible governor.
Hindsight tho. I did vote for her.
Posted by: Bosk at July 15, 2021 06:20 PM (FgPjD)

Did she finance it with oil company revenues? I'm sure what you're saying is true and maybe I had an unrealistic view from a distance. DJT oversaw humongous budgets too...

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:27 PM (y7DUB)

333 I think the S Dakota Gov is beautiful physically and I had great hope for her
But she is a RINO... stick a fork in it

Posted by: Gonzotx at July 15, 2021 06:27 PM (0WEXg)

334 Let's light this candle.

Christine ODonnell

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 06:27 PM (4q7lA)

335 Alaska has a new rising star, that gal taking on Murkowski, she's damn attractive also.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 15, 2021 06:27 PM (qH6FZ)

336 Palin's political career is done. She mouthed something about running against cokecowski but nothing came of it. There are fresher minds out there.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2021 06:27 PM (Zyyst)

337 310 Gotta disagree. Palin is a featherweight.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:21 PM (YqDXo)

She strikes me as a good person. That is what we need in government in an ideal world. She had a boatload of charisma, but perhaps not the right feel for people.

This is in no way an ideal world.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:23 PM (csEWM)

We need more - a LOT more - than a good person with a lot of charisma. That would be enough to be President of the PTA, but for President of the US, we need a lot more. Hard-headed, a scrapper, and a lot more intelligent and thoughtful. Think Margaret Thatcher.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:28 PM (YqDXo)

338 I guess all that long held, pent-up frustration has to surface somehow.
In this case, constantly attacking her because she might actually have
had planned a more effective way than SD first proposed to combat the
imposition of transgenderism into children's lives. Grow up, betas.
Okay, you caught us. We'll just all take our short d***s and go cringing back to the prom queen. I hope she'll punish us severely.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:28 PM (ZsR3z)

339 I was for Ted originally and figured that Trump would at best be a conservative Democrat, which in many ways was true. It's just my baseline has changed now, I guess.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:28 PM (i9ZF7)

340 I guess all that long held, pent-up frustration has to surface somehow. In this case, constantly attacking her because she might actually have had planned a more effective way than SD first proposed to combat the imposition of transgenderism into children's lives. Grow up, betas.
Posted by: Dagwood at July 15, 2021 06:25 PM (fBzrD

Ah yes. That super secret attack plan that somehow never reveals itself.

Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 06:28 PM (4fSQf)

341 Warning sign for Noem was her ad showing her hunting. Had too much of a "No true King has to tell people he is the King" feel to it.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at July 15, 2021 06:28 PM (HeVwL)

342 Christine ODonnell
Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 06:27 PM (4q7lA)

Wasn't a witch.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:29 PM (i9ZF7)

343 Grow up, betas.

Dad, is that you?

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at July 15, 2021 06:29 PM (W4eKo)

344 I'm not singling anyone out. There was a quite a raft of Palin hate here at one time. I can't pinpoint when. Maybe it was after she resigned?
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:26 PM (1L6wv)

I was a huge fan the night of the convention. Her words hit me in a way I could not remember since Reagan. I broke a five and a half year quit of smoking that night because I was so excited. Fist pumping, smoking like a chimney joy.

I will admit, I thought less of her when she resigned.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:29 PM (csEWM)

345 Do you reckon she will reveal it at some point?

No, no. It's like The Kraken. It's strength would only be diminished by transparency. TRUST THE PLAN!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2021 06:29 PM (QU5/8)

346 That's a new liberal ploy, "if you disagree with a turncoat Republican, it's because she wouldn't go to the prom with you." Possibly the dumbest take I have ever seen here Dagwood.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 15, 2021 06:29 PM (oWBc3)

347 327 There's no way to judge Palin a featherweight. She barely got out of the starting gate before the lawsuits were flying. She went knives out right after the corruption and they attacked her nonstop.

Sure there is. They scuppered her easily with the ethics charges, etc. She basically wilted instead of fighting back. Contrast, e.g., Trump.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:30 PM (YqDXo)

348 We need more - a LOT more - than a good person with a lot of charisma. That would be enough to be President of the PTA, but for President of the US, we need a lot more. Hard-headed, a scrapper, and a lot more intelligent and thoughtful. Think Margaret Thatcher.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:28 PM (YqDXo)

We need a Rabidly pro American Asshole!

Oh, wait... we had one...

nevermind.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 15, 2021 06:31 PM (oHd/0)

349 Kristi Norm...Nikki Haley--- tomato...tomatoe

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at July 15, 2021 06:31 PM (R5lpX)

350 Imagine the optics of armed federal agents stopping the ND independence day fireworks at Mt Rushmore. But she caved.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 15, 2021 06:31 PM (gpKIi)

351 349 Kristi Norm...Nikki Haley--- tomato...tomatoe
Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at July 15, 2021 06:31 PM (R5lpX)

That's my read.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:31 PM (csEWM)

352 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 15, 2021 06:32 PM (csEWM)

353 Posted by: Dagwood at July 15, 2021 06:25 PM (fBzrD

-------------

Blondie is fucking the mailman while you're at work.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2021 06:32 PM (kTF2Z)

354 "NYC had the lowest ratio of pretty girls in my experience."

You worked in the wrong neighborhood.

Posted by: Marcus Gravey at July 15, 2021 06:32 PM (9NJ5f)

355 Right? It's so simple. Take the opportunity to demonstrate a spine and run with it.
Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:26 PM (ZsR3z)

Right. It escapes them all.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 15, 2021 06:32 PM (QIblF)

356 Imagine the optics of armed federal agents stopping the ND independence day fireworks at Mt Rushmore. But she caved.
This was Trump's super power. He understood that playing the game within their parameters was guaranteed to lose, so he changed the rules and made them respond to HIM. That's what a leader does.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2021 06:32 PM (ZsR3z)

357 Sure there is. They scuppered her easily with the ethics charges, etc. She basically wilted instead of fighting back. Contrast, e.g., Trump.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:30 PM (YqDXo)

The problem was the way the Alaska law worked. ANYONE could bring an ethics charge, no matter how vague or flimsy, and you then had to PAY for your own defense. It was a hit job plan to bankrupt her family.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 15, 2021 06:33 PM (oHd/0)

358 Sure there is. They scuppered her easily with the ethics charges, etc. She basically wilted instead of fighting back. Contrast, e.g., Trump.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:30 PM (YqDXo)

You inadvertently make my point, good sir. Yes, I know politics is bloody but my point is about what policies she could have come up with if she'd had a go. Instead she was fighting for survival. Trump had the same problem but came up with great policy in spite of it.

Of course, he got a chance at the plate. I'd have liked to see Palin get the same shot. I think she could have been Trump before Trump was Trump.

Posted by: Alabama at July 15, 2021 06:33 PM (4fSQf)

359 Sure there is. They scuppered her easily with the ethics charges, etc. She basically wilted instead of fighting back. Contrast, e.g., Trump.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:30 PM (YqDXo)

Trump is a billionaire. Palin didn't have the means to fight back. I believe that. I believe it because, unlike Noem, she never turned us. Being loyal to McCain sucked but it's understandable. Trump is too loyal too.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:33 PM (1L6wv)

360 I would like to nominate Boston.

Dangerously close to crossing the streams there.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 15, 2021 06:34 PM (nfrXX)

361 Christine ODonnell
Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2021 06:27 PM (4q7lA)

Wasn't a witch.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 15, 2021 06:29 PM (i9ZF7)

Was attacked by Rove on the night of her primary victory for trouncing his piece of shit candidate, the great Mike Castle. Way to transfer the blame for running a terrible campaign, Svengali. Even Eric Cantor took his humiliating defeat like a man.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:35 PM (y7DUB)

362 Palin blazed the trail for Trump. She showed the weak spots in the Left and had fun doing it. She was on her own against both parties. Not many examples like those two.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2021 06:35 PM (1L6wv)

363 Sure there is. They scuppered her easily with the ethics charges, etc. She basically wilted instead of fighting back. Contrast, e.g., Trump.

I'm not even a Palin fan (more the opposite), but Trump also has Fuck You Money. My understanding is that Palin more or less quit because her enemies were going to financially destroy her. She decided earning money was more important than being governor of one of the least consequential states in the union. Hard to fault her for that.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2021 06:35 PM (QU5/8)

364

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2021 06:35 PM (QU5/8)

365 Sure there is. They scuppered her easily with the ethics charges, etc. She basically wilted instead of fighting back. Contrast, e.g., Trump.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 15, 2021 06:30 PM (YqDXo)

The spurious lawsuits were also a lot more of a severe financial burden on her than Trump. And somone from AK is probably not quite as used to deranged media types buying the house next door and demanding to inspect your uterus to validate their conspiracy theories.

Why should she have been expected to keep fighting in national politics, especially after her own campaign backstabbed her?

Posted by: Sjg at July 15, 2021 06:39 PM (gDSJf)

366 Yes

Going for the one?
Posted by: Bosk at July 15, 2021 06:06 PM (FgPjD)
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Close to the edge, there.

Posted by: Axeman at July 15, 2021 06:41 PM (XHhHI)

367 Why should she have been expected to keep fighting in national politics, especially after her own campaign backstabbed her?
Posted by: Sjg at July 15, 2021 06:39 PM (gDSJf)

I did lose some respect for her when she promised to fight to change those laws so that it wouldn't happen to someone else and she didn't lift a finger to do so after the election.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 15, 2021 06:45 PM (2DOZq)

368 Gotta disagree. Palin is a featherweight.

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meanwhile the left nominates wet socks and they win because we let the left count the votes in private

Posted by: Tim Riggins at July 15, 2021 06:45 PM (ZZK0E)

369 Some day I'm sure I'll hear that Trump was mostly loved around here from the start.

I remember Palin being pretty well regarded right away here by most, but Trump people thought was a crackpot blowhard reality show host by most, including me. He learned us good

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2021 06:45 PM (KZzsI)

370 Palin was stuck as AK governor as she had to pay all her own legal fees to defend herself on bogus ethics charges and could not by law raise money through contributions.

Posted by: whig at July 15, 2021 06:46 PM (pO7gM)

371 Agreed. That would have been a kick to the balls of the GOPe leadership.

That assumes that something to kick is there.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 15, 2021 06:52 PM (+LCoQ)

372 That's what I'm trying to tell you: Who is the band in that video.
Come on, Ace, don't make us Guess Who! [An hour late.]

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 15, 2021 06:53 PM (UHVv4)

373 Btw, part of the issue was dirty frank Murkowski and his daughter along with Ted Stevens ran the state like a fiefdom taking goodies from the oil companies. Palin was trying to clean up the state a bit. They did not like her and the national dems hated here. Reformers not of the club whether at the state or federal level are targets for both parties. Investigations, slander, and hit job media coverage as well as betrayal by your campaign staff is common.

Posted by: whig at July 15, 2021 06:54 PM (pO7gM)

374 whig: "Palin was stuck as AK governor as she had to pay all her own legal fees to defend herself on bogus ethics charges and could not by law raise money through contributions."

This.

She did not have Trump-money to litigate this to the ends of the earth. If she did, I'm certain she'd have dragged her legal opponents to Hell.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Ashli Babbitt at July 15, 2021 06:56 PM (aXxgO)

375 Nope, sorry, I categorically refuse to ever visit The Federalist again, ever since they used Big Tech bullshit as an excuse to permanently remove their comment section and have never put it back in any form.

They're cowards that can't accept any criticism, so they hid themselves in a bubble. Fuck them.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at July 15, 2021 06:57 PM (52QgA)

376 199 "No governor ever got a bill put on their desk and handed to them like my legislature first gave me. And I gave them a style-informed revision, asked them to change it, and they refused."

She always says this but is never specific about what she wanted changed...or at least I've never heard it.
Posted by: Tami at July 15, 2021 06:05 PM (cF8AT)

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Me either. And at CPAC she had the perfect opportunity to tell us and didn't.

And she also said that a bunch of states need to fight this together. Now that multiple states have passed legislation, has she done ANYTHING?

Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at July 15, 2021 06:57 PM (dDkyV)

377 I still think Noem is very pretty, especially for her age. But she's not presidential material. And as #34 said well, she made the perfect the enemy of the good, then lied about it.

Posted by: PaddyBeaner at July 15, 2021 07:00 PM (nl80Z)

378 Posted by: DudeAbiding at July 15, 2021 06:57 PM (52QgA)

The were completely justified in doing so because the left was trying to use their comment section to get them blacklisted and dismiss all of their reporting.

Comments are not the only avenue for criticism, and it's not like they're an effective means of criticism anyway.

Posted by: Sjg at July 15, 2021 07:05 PM (gDSJf)

379 If you're going to whine about your coverage then you better be on the right side of things.

You weren't on the right side Noemi and you knew it. Which is why you came off even weaker.

Since then you've just continued to show that our 1st impression after you caved on the transgender bill was the right one. Same with Haley. She's okay on some stuff but her first instincts aren't the ones we want to see. And as she's screwed up she's just gotten worse. Because she's faking it.

Noem you didn't think you had a chance so you were more honest. Then you though you did and tried to play it safe. Wrong move.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 15, 2021 07:07 PM (wb4G5)

380 lets' drink beer and forget all this bullshit for a few hours.

Posted by: jeet at July 15, 2021 07:11 PM (g741k)

381 lets' drink beer and forget all this bullshit for a few hours.

Evidently the new thing is a wobbly moon will kill us all.
I think you have a great idea there.

Posted by: Bosk at July 15, 2021 07:45 PM (FgPjD)

382 25 "In any event, our society is either unable or unwilling to keep chicks with dicks out of school sports polite society."

FTFY.

Posted by: Joe Smith at July 15, 2021 07:57 PM (zmIA8)

383 29 Kristi, Kristi, Kristi. Come here a sit a spell. Lean forward and listen carefully, only gonna say this once...You voted to let men compete in women's sports. You put a stake through the heart of women's sports. You pissed all over women's sports. Some things are not recoverable.

It's even worse than that. WWII for us was not primarily about the Japanese blowing up one of our main naval bases; it was about the fact that there was a pernicious ideology spreading throughout the world that taught that certain people had the right to rule over the rest of the human race, and that they were justified in doing anything they wanted to achieve that goal. THAT was what had to be stopped. Similarly, the problem here is not so much women's sports (and I say this as a person who has become a manic fan of his alma mater's women's basketball team the past few years); the problem is that that there is a pernicious ideology spreading throughout the world that denies the existence of objective truth, that says that you can decide for yourself what you are no matter how much it conflicts with actual reality, and that anyone who disagrees should be destroyed.

Posted by: Joe Smith at July 15, 2021 08:06 PM (zmIA8)

384 cont. THAT's the fight she bailed on.

Posted by: Joe Smith at July 15, 2021 08:06 PM (zmIA8)

385 34 "She's right, she did ask them to write a different bill. It may have even been a better one.

But she did veto that bill. She refused to sign a bill that would have protected girls in school from guys."

And she used a technicality to get around having to openly veto the law and take a chance on being overridden. That just adds the cherry to the top of the sundae of lame.

Posted by: Joe Smith at July 15, 2021 08:17 PM (zmIA8)

386 96 " 'If the NCAA wants to sue, let them sue. Pay the fucking lawyers and put up. This concede defeat after wargaming in a committee meeting Mitch McConnell bullshit has to stop.'

It was the other way around: the NCAA could pull out and South Dakota would lose any court case. The problem is that would mean a lot of lost revenues for South Dakota businesses."

Except that there are two problems with that:

1.) I've actually read the NCAA's transgender policy (it's on their website, go look it up), and after all their harrumphing and threats and dire pronouncements, was stunned to find out that *it doesn't actually require their members to let tranzis play.* There's a lot of "you should" and "opening up opportunity" and "it's the right thing to do," but nowhere does it say that you must let tranzis play on the team of the opposite sex from what they are biologically. The only actual rule in the whole thing is that men pretending to be women must be on testosterone for one full year before they can play on women's teams.

Posted by: Joe Smith at July 15, 2021 08:26 PM (zmIA8)

387 cont. So frankly, I don't think the NCAA would have a leg to stand on in court over this one, since their own policies don't actually require their members to take any action on this issue. NC absolutely should have sued them, since the issue there was the bathroom law, which didn't even affect sports directly.
2.) I love sports, I always have, I think they're great fun--but as a driver of economic growth, they are grotesquely overrated. I cringe every time a city gives in to the pro leagues' blackmail and give their team a ridiculously sweetheart deal on a stadium. There's no evidence that they bring any additional revenue into a city on a regular basis; they just substitute for other kinds of revenue.

Posted by: Joe Smith at July 15, 2021 08:31 PM (zmIA8)

388 cont. Given that college sports are smaller than pro sports, the evidence in their favor is even more dubious.

Posted by: Joe Smith at July 15, 2021 08:32 PM (zmIA8)

389 The uniparty needs a Jeb Bush candidate to "win" in 2024. This will "prove" the vote was totally not rigged.

Posted by: Karen at July 15, 2021 08:47 PM (fUucE)

390 Noem is a Decepticon. Conservative-flavored, Mitch-favored.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 15, 2021 08:52 PM (Ndje9)

391 Highly recommend the original Abigail Shrier piece. It's about how to fight back and win.

re: how they invented "birthing person"

The Left believes that a woman who thinks she's a man is, in fact, a man.

But they don't want to say that men can give birth because even they know that's batshit crazy. Hence "birthing person.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 15, 2021 09:34 PM (Ndje9)

392
Haley of the Black Hills.

Posted by: Sapwolf at July 15, 2021 09:50 PM (S4A66)

393
Give her five minutes in a room with Bill Clinton or Epstein and this chick will be servicing them gleefully naked on her knees.

When you are the elite 1% of 1%, it does not matter what state you govern.

You will NEVER be the cagefighter we need as PREZ to stop the madness.

If that madness does not stop, we WILL have a split in the country. Hopefully, a peaceful divorce, but it WILL happen.

Posted by: Sapwolf at July 15, 2021 10:02 PM (S4A66)

394
All you guys (and gals) wasting time arguing back and forth on this failure of Noem is pathetic.

It comes down to one question....

Is the prospect a CAGEFIGHTER for the Constitution, America and its people?

That's it!

Right now, that includes ONLY Trump and DeSantis, and you all know this.

Posted by: Sapwolf at July 15, 2021 10:06 PM (S4A66)

395 <i>I'm none too happy about Allen West challenging Abbott.</i>
Abbott's a piece of dogshit. I live in Texas and our dependence on wind power is due to him. He also snivels that when those members of the Texas House of Representatives come back to Texas, then they will be arrested. Versus, perhaps, charging them with crimes *now* and providing a bounty to have bounty hunters drag their asses back to Texas.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 16, 2021 01:32 AM (769ST)

396 ps; Shrier takes as shot at MTG as a "chest-thumper" who doesn't sway anyone. I think that's wrong. She fights

Greene is one of the few who has been fighting for Honest Elections. You can change all the minds you want but without Honest Elections, it never translates into winning candidates or policies.

Take your own advice, Abigail.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 16, 2021 08:38 AM (Ndje9)

397 Okay, you caught us. We'll just all take our short d***s and go cringing
back to the prom queen. I hope she'll punish us severely.

Bad news. They elected a trannie for prom queen this year.

Posted by: Dagwood at July 16, 2021 11:37 AM (fBzrD)

398 Dad, is that you?
^^^^^^
Arkie, For the win.

Posted by: Dagwood at July 16, 2021 11:39 AM (fBzrD)

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