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Georgia Judge Allows Examination of Biden's Ballots That Look Like They Were Mass-Produced With a Xerox Machine

Via Instapundit, at RealClearPolitics: is this the evidence of the election's, um, "fortification" we've been looking for?

When Fulton County, Ga., poll manager Suzi Voyles sorted through a large stack of mail-in ballots last November, she noticed an alarmingly odd pattern of uniformity in the markings for Joseph R. Biden. One after another, the absentee votes contained perfectly filled-in ovals for Biden -- except that each of the darkened bubbles featured an identical white void inside them in the shape of a tiny crescent, indicating they'd been marked with toner ink instead of a pen or pencil.

Adding to suspicions, she noticed that all of the ballots were printed on different stock paper than the others she handled as part of a statewide hand recount of the razor-thin Nov. 3 presidential election. And none was folded or creased, as she typically observed in mail-in ballots that had been removed from envelopes.

In short, the Biden votes looked like they'd been duplicated by a copying machine.

"All of them were strangely pristine," said Voyles, who said she'd never seen anything like it in her 20 years monitoring elections in Fulton County, which includes much of Atlanta.

She wasn't alone. At least three other poll workers observed the same thing in stacks of absentee ballots for Biden processed by the county, and they have joined Voyles in swearing under penalty of perjury that they looked fake.

Now election watchdogs have used their affidavits to help convince a state judge to unseal all of the 147,000 mail-in ballots counted in Fulton and allow a closer inspection of the suspicious Biden ballots for evidence of counterfeiting. They argue that potentially tens of thousands may have been manufactured in a race that Biden won by just 12,000 votes thanks to a late surge of mail-in ballots counted after election monitors were shooed from State Farm Arena in Atlanta.

Have we discovered what was in those suitcases which were only brought out and opened after election inspectors were ejected?


Posted by: Ace at 12:16 PM




Comments

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1 Pretty easy to test the "ink" to see if it's a Xerox or not I'd imagine.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2021 11:17 AM (UHVv4)

2 Reinstatement Summer, baby!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2021 11:17 AM (guGkK)

3 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:17 AM (LvTSG)

4 Grempht

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 08, 2021 11:17 AM (WGara)

5 A crescent?? You know who that means!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2021 11:18 AM (UHVv4)

6 This stuff keeps chugging along under the radar.

All I care about is this: What will the GOP of GA do about it?

They won't be able to undo the 2024 result, but they can make moves to ensure that this shit never ever happens again.

Will they?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:18 AM (LvTSG)

7 Pardon my cynicism but what difference at this point will it make?

Posted by: Mookie at June 08, 2021 11:18 AM (gll8P)

8 Ditto machine that shit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 08, 2021 11:19 AM (3H9h1)

9 Durham will come.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2021 11:19 AM (guGkK)

10 This is gonna get sporty.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 08, 2021 11:20 AM (kTF2Z)

11 "It's a tax. No standing."
--Obligatory Chief Justice Roberts response.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at June 08, 2021 11:20 AM (ZIoLS)

12 TJM, it's critical that the re-examination of ballots etc finds material fraud (i.e. that changed the outcome). Absolutely central.

Of course without corrective action, it would seem pointless, but it isn't. If the actual fact of a stolen presidential election can be established to a reasonable standard, it provides the best basis for all future action, political and legislative.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:20 AM (OTzUX)

13 no need for cyncism yet

let's just see what develops

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (j9HX3)

14 All I care about is this: What will the GOP of GA do about it?

Tell you to vote harder.

I still stand by my prediction that before Stinkfinger's "term" ends, leading Dems will admit, publicly, that the election was stolen and, moreover, the GOP will excuse it on the grounds that Trump was such a mortal danger to the nation that, to quote Steve Dallas, they had to spill a little constitutional milk to save the American pie.

But what do I know? I'm just a fat, cynical asshole blog commenter.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (2JVJo)

15 And Ms Voyles better be carrying or have some armed friends nearby IMHO.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (UHVv4)

16 Xerox?

Oh, Brother.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (6FeV1)

17 >>> Pardon my cynicism but what difference at this point will it make?
Posted by: Mookie at June 08, 2021 11:18 AM (gll8P)

^ this

Posted by: Hillary at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (1ln8o)

18 12 TJM, it's critical that the re-examination of ballots etc finds material fraud (i.e. that changed the outcome). Absolutely central.

Of course without corrective action, it would seem pointless, but it isn't. If the actual fact of a stolen presidential election can be established to a reasonable standard, it provides the best basis for all future action, political and legislative.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:20 AM (OTzUX)

========

All true (it also won't stop me from asserting that Democrats massively cheated in order to win, by the way).

However, I feel like we've seen enough at this point, especially around spoliation, that the state level GOPs should be in the middle of action, not just waiting for more results.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (LvTSG)

19 5 A crescent?? You know who that means!
Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2021 11:18 AM (UHVv4)

lol

Posted by: Inogame at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (53oGX)

20 Of course without corrective action, it would seem pointless, but it isn't. If the actual fact of a stolen presidential election can be established to a reasonable standard, it provides the best basis for all future action, political and legislative.


correct, rhomboid

there are a lot of options that will present themselves other than "Trump is now Prez" or "hot civil war" even

a lot of pretty good options. let's see what we see.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (j9HX3)

21 Pardon my cynicism but what difference at this point will it make?
Posted by: Mookie at June 08, 2021 11:18 AM (gll8P)


This: Trump will never be "reinstated." Who could even accomplish that? Otto Skorzeny is dead.

BUT, it will make it more widely known and accepted that the Biden presidency is a corrupt fraud, and that America is under the control of an cabal of illegitimate usurpers.

This can only lead in a good direction.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (guGkK)

22 Restoration Summer with lots of social justice payback. Suck it scum.

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (/MaDp)

23 14 I still stand by my prediction that before Stinkfinger's "term" ends, leading Dems will admit, publicly, that the election was stolen and, moreover, the GOP will excuse it on the grounds that Trump was such a mortal danger to the nation that, to quote Steve Dallas, they had to spill a little constitutional milk to save the American pie.

But what do I know? I'm just a fat, cynical asshole blog commenter.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (2JVJo)

========

Seven months ago, I would have said no to this.

Seven months ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (LvTSG)

24 Come on, MPPPP, you're not that fat!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (UHVv4)

25 ace, related to the suitcases - maybe actually the same thing - there was video, during the day-time, of an election worker pulling out a container of some kind (presumably ballots) from under a table, briefly looking into it, and then high-fiving and doing a little celebratory thing.

Some here may have seen it.

Weird. Very very difficult to understand, unless it was what it obviously looked like - something was stashed away, this guy was checking to see it was there, and was elated to confirm it was.

WTF??

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (OTzUX)

26 10 This is gonna get sporty.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 08, 2021 11:20 AM (kTF2Z)

No chance.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (Oka5v)

27 And Ms Voyles better be carrying or have some armed friends nearby IMHO

Beware the polonium umbrella shot....

Posted by: Mookie at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (gll8P)

28 Xerox?

Oh, Brother.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (6FeV1)



ISWYDT

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (Ez6QX)

29 Honestly, every state should be conducting an audit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (tfgr7)

30

i'm here too


i can pop out anytime

Posted by: Kamalas nervous laugh at June 08, 2021 11:23 AM (bTQ72)

31 17 >>> Pardon my cynicism but what difference at this point will it make?
Posted by: Mookie at June 08, 2021 11:18 AM (gll8P)

I understand you.. I guess all we could possibly get from this is "vindication."?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 08, 2021 11:23 AM (Zmnko)

32 Moar audits

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 08, 2021 11:23 AM (XvPQV)

33 >>They argue that potentially tens of thousands may have been manufactured in a race that Biden won by just 12,000 votes thanks to a late surge of mail-in ballots counted after election monitors were shooed from State Farm Arena in Atlanta.


Weren;t these the ones where the woman ran them through the voting machine repeatedly?
Meaning: 12,000 fake ballots could account for fraudulent ballot counts that are multiples of that -- 24k, 36k, 48k. . .?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2021 11:23 AM (bDqIh)

34 To conduct an audit leads you to BLM and Mark Zuckerberg's walking around money. This will pump Identity Politics to eleventy.

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 08, 2021 11:24 AM (/MaDp)

35 But what do I know? I'm just a fat, cynical asshole blog commenter.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (2JVJo)


I'm already hearing the "we had to do it to save the country" by an alarming number of people re: AZ audit. I think they know this is going to spread to other states.

And you're not fat, it's just those pants.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 08, 2021 11:24 AM (wAnMi)

36
But what do I know? I'm just a fat, cynical asshole blog commenter.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (2JVJo)


Don't sell yourself short. No one here thinks you're cynical.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2021 11:24 AM (NaiLP)

37 Pardon my cynicism but what difference at this point will it make?
Posted by: Mookie at June 08, 2021 11:18 AM (gll8P)


Make it stop going forward.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:24 AM (y7DUB)

38 Honestly, every state should be conducting an audit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (tfgr7)


We see no reason for that. Now put your mask back on or you're going to jail, mister!

Posted by: Gov. Gavin Newsom at June 08, 2021 11:24 AM (guGkK)

39 But what do I know? I'm just a fat, cynical asshole blog commenter.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (2JVJo)

-----------

Hey, you're not fat!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 08, 2021 11:24 AM (kTF2Z)

40 I'm thinking Suzi Voyles could use some secret service protection. I can't imagine the left would let this pass.

Posted by: Emmie at June 08, 2021 11:24 AM (tcsxg)

41 I look forward to the state media giving this absolutely zero coverage.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 08, 2021 11:24 AM (Vgw1E)

42 Xerox?

Oh, Brother.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (6FeV1)



ISWYDT

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (Ez6QX)
Dittos!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 08, 2021 11:24 AM (7bRMQ)

43 BUT, it will make it more widely known and accepted that the Biden
presidency is a corrupt fraud, and that America is under the control of
an cabal of illegitimate usurpers.



This can only lead in a good direction.

Not so. A collective shrug of the shoulders and the deep state knows it can get away with it. Just like they did with the phony phandemic....

Posted by: Mookie at June 08, 2021 11:25 AM (gll8P)

44 Biden's Ballots That Look Like They Were Mass-Produced With a Xerox Machine
.......

lol
Print PDF
Copies: 25,000
Pages to print: All

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2021 11:25 AM (v0R5T)

45 I completely understand the cynicism... I am completely guilty of that, and well... let's be honest... as conservatives we've earned it.

However... if audits show a steal, I don't care how the media try to shine that turd but all the states will be shoring up elections.. because there will be torches and pitchforks.

Moreover... any push by Dems at all will be met with resounding resistance.

I just can't see how they double down after that, not without shooting.

Posted by: Inogame at June 08, 2021 11:25 AM (53oGX)

46 28 Xerox?

Oh, Brother.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (6FeV1)


ISWYDT
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (Ez6QX)

Soon this will become HQ Canon.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at June 08, 2021 11:25 AM (II3Gr)

47 Yeah, what's with the "what difference will it make"?

First, there's literally no cost or disincentive to do it. It's a freebie, in a general sense.

Second, it seems very unlikely that documenting a stolen election will have zero consequences.

In general the institutions (meaning the populace) is so far gone, so hollowed out, that the response to such a documentation will tragically look nothing like it would have 40 or 60 years ago.

But it can't hurt to run the experiment.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:25 AM (OTzUX)

48 the difference it makes is giving the Rs some backbone, pressure to stop a fraudulent regime's plans and legislative crapola, etc etc

I like a non-performing, deadlocked FedGov.

I like it A LOT

keep FedGov busy with lots of state lawsuits - I like that EVEN BETTER

and individual voters should be preparing lawsuits, as well

again, we shall see

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2021 11:25 AM (j9HX3)

49 What would be the solution, should the general populace (or call it enough of the States) declare that Biden is not the rightful president?

You can't just give it to Trump.... there were other people on the ballot, and you can't just make assumptions about "who would have won". You can't give it to Harris, either, as she was also elected fraudulently. So the presidency goes to House Speaker? Pelosi? And then what? we wait three years for a new election? Or a special election?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:25 AM (6FeV1)

50 Man, I remember the Xerox commercials with the monks.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2021 11:26 AM (UHVv4)

51
get ready for Recovery summer Number 17



!!

Posted by: Kamalas nervous laugh at June 08, 2021 11:26 AM (bTQ72)

52 Nuttin to see here youse guys.....

Posted by: Fat Sal In His Buick LeSabre at June 08, 2021 11:26 AM (YxVzA)

53 "Fixed!"--Democrats folding ballots over

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

54 Two things that I think we should keep an eye on:

(1) "Hundreds" of people arrested yesterday thanks to an FBI app that tracked their communications on a "secret" communications network. The BBC article made mention that "royals" were also using it.

(2) German doctor Fuellmich is representing thousands of health care providers, etc, in an attempt to bring a "Nuremburg-like" international case against the people who used the testing kits that gave false positives

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:26 AM (AwPyG)

55 16 Xerox?

Oh, Brother.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (6FeV1)

More Republican disinformation... it was a Canon copier!

-SoS Ratshitburger

Posted by: Inogame at June 08, 2021 11:26 AM (53oGX)

56 I'm with rhomboid. Having a permanent, undeniable asterisk on Biden-Harris in the history books is worth at least as much as Trump being impeached twice for no purpose except to smear him.
More importantly, exposing how they did it makes it possible to fix the system so that in the future they can't do it again. I saw a poll yesterday that now a majority of the American people think there was fraud in the election. Stopping HR 1 means that we actually have 50 state elections. Some are cleaner than others, so I'm not Pollyannaish that everything will get fixed, but shine some sunlight on the criminals.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 11:27 AM (BMmaB)

57 Box 'em up Harry, gotta deliver between 3:00 and 5:00am!

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2021 11:27 AM (v0R5T)

58 23 Seven months ago you lived in America. Now you just cling (heh) to its dead and rapidly decaying corpse. Kind of like Swiss Army Man, with a less famous star.

Posted by: Bete at June 08, 2021 11:27 AM (Ojki1)

59 Trumps win was so huge that the Dems had to go to Defcon 1 and they got sloppy. But their arrogance (rightfully so) that they could get away with it dictated that they didn't need to fold or cover up.

Posted by: DitkaCA at June 08, 2021 11:27 AM (kVjCi)

60 Too late! We won! Na na na booboo! There, unfortunately, is no recourse other than pitchforks and torches.

Posted by: leber at June 08, 2021 11:27 AM (+og+2)

61 Weird. Very very difficult to understand, unless it was what it obviously looked like - something was stashed away, this guy was checking to see it was there, and was elated to confirm it was.

WTF??
Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (OTzUX)

"Mom packed lunchables! Wooo!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:27 AM (6FeV1)

62 397 379Is there a right to vote in the constitution?
Posted by: Floridachick at June 08, 2021 11:13 AM (DnWIB)

I'm pretty sure they delegated that to the states

People claiming the 15th Amendment...

Posted by: Floridachick at June 08, 2021 11:23 AM (DnWIB)

From the previous thread an important question for all with this type of knowledge.

Posted by: Floridachick at June 08, 2021 11:27 AM (DnWIB)

63 Shoulda used mimeograph.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (yL25O)

64 Soon this will become HQ Canon.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at June 08, 2021 11:25 AM (II3Gr)


Oki-Dokey!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (tfgr7)

65 58 23 Seven months ago you lived in America. Now you just cling (heh) to its dead and rapidly decaying corpse. Kind of like Swiss Army Man, with a less famous star.
Posted by: Bete at June 08, 2021 11:27 AM (Ojki1)

==========

So, I'm Paul Dano and America is Daniel Radcliffe?

Is Biden Radcliffe's farts?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (LvTSG)

66 Pristine "mail in" ballots all with the same in-the-bubble white crescent would be a devastating visual bombshell that would convince even the biggest idiots on the left that the election, at least in GA, was stolen. So we'll never see that visual bombshell, because GOP.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (po5ZZ)

67 Democrats folding ballots over
Just down the centre and not into thirds for use in a letter envelope.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (UHVv4)

68 Again, we knew they would try to steal the election because they quite loudly said they were going to steal the election and how they were going to do it, they got a major assist from the GOP and SCOTUS and now we are playing whack a mole.

Why pray tell have we not gotten one of those full demographic breakdowns we usually get after every election, hmmm?


That because the numbers simply wouldn't add up.

Trump got 20 pct of the black make vote except in exactly 5 cities where he got zero point zero.

Strange no?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (sIV3x)

69 Also, isn't there video of one of the election workers who stayed behind talking about how she helped "her guy" Biden? I think her name was Ruby.

Posted by: Emmie at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (tcsxg)

70 The steal was so blatant that I think they don't care that we find out. What are the repukes going to do about it. The steal worked and that's all that matters.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (flINI)

71 I'm sorry, but all this talk of election fakery disqualifies everyone here from receiving campaign donations from JP Morgan. Don't even ask us, because the answer is "No!".

Posted by: Jamie Dimon at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (Zny85)

72 If you don't let big city Dem election officials xerox ballots then include the xeroxed ballots in the vote totals, then you're basically in favor of Jim Crow laws.

Just think of the xeroxed ballots as social justice compensation for all the would-be Dem voters that couldn't get an ID, citizenship, and/or out of a felony conviction. In fact, we should probably enshrine this practice in our election laws by starting all statewide Dem candidate vote totals at +100,000 rather than zero so Dems don't have to waste all that copier paper. It's for the planet!

Posted by: Match Checksout at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (dYe5S)

73 can't we just have another water main break and then replace these with new, better fake ballots? Geeze, team biden's really falling down.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (vkDpM)

74 What will happen? Nobody knows, since this is uncharted territory.

But it will be up to the individual states to decide.

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (AwPyG)

75 Fortify my love.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (63Dwl)

76 Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2021 11:25 AM (j9HX3)

What you said plus this is the opposite of the GOPe do nothing fuckheads saying enjoy the anal rape.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (y7DUB)

77 seems it could make every policy decision of the usurpers subject to litigation since they lacked the consent of the governed. or does the fruit of a poisonous tree not apply?

Posted by: x4 at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (oA+QO)

78 I'm surprised we didn't get a flaming ballot box with this one.

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (dYmWY)

79 PAPER JAM

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (v0R5T)

80
if nobody gets a 5AM FBI raid , it will matter not.


noboby will go to jail,

even tho the NSA prolly has the communications of the plan and execution of the 2020 steal and fraud

Posted by: will choose a nic later at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (bTQ72)

81 63 Shoulda used mimeograph.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (yL25O)
--------
What about all these purple ballots?
Count 'em twice!

Posted by: zmdavid at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (xqRaG)

82 So Trump proven right again.

Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2021 11:30 AM (mpXpK)

83 40 I'm thinking Suzi Voyles could use some secret service protection. I can't imagine the left would let this pass.

Send over Kennedy's SS crew, they're not busy, and nobody could make a whoopsy twice.

Posted by: common sense at June 08, 2021 11:30 AM (m9Z12)

84 Trumps win was so huge that the Dems had to go to Defcon 1 and they got
sloppy. But their arrogance (rightfully so) that they could get away
with it dictated that they didn't need to fold or cover up.


The knew the corrupt media would dutifully cover for them. And it did. And it will.

Posted by: Mookie at June 08, 2021 11:30 AM (gll8P)

85 The steal was so blatant that I think they don't care that we find out. What are the repukes going to do about it. The steal worked and that's all that matters.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (flINI)



^ What he said.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2021 11:30 AM (Ez6QX)

86 I guess the GOP shouldn't have wind sprinted to certify the election before the investigations. They act like (the people who relitigated the 2000, 2004, and 2016 elections) the sole principle of US election law is do it fast.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at June 08, 2021 11:30 AM (vkDpM)

87 "Hundreds" of people arrested yesterday thanks to an FBI app that
tracked their communications on a "secret" communications network. The
BBC article made mention that "royals" were also using it.

We have no evidence this happened!

Posted by: The FIB at June 08, 2021 11:30 AM (7bRMQ)

88 Everybody who is not a leftist knows the election was stolen. For goodness sakes, even foreign countries know it! And it cannot be hidden any more (see: Those banners saying, "Trump Won!" at recent major league baseball games)

May the press and the dems be annihilated for generations because of this. ( I 'd like to see actual, infinite jail terms for all involved, but I'd settle for seeing them permanently exiled and declared pariahs.)

Posted by: RondinellaMamma - Trump is still The Duly Elected President of the USA at June 08, 2021 11:30 AM (8/7u2)

89 I'd like to think that this investigation will lead to... something, but- no

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 08, 2021 11:30 AM (iTXRQ)

90 82 So Trump proven right again.
Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2021 11:30 AM (mpXpK)

=========

"If Trump hadn't said there was vote fraud, we would have investigated it."
-CNN

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:30 AM (LvTSG)

91 That's it! Shenanigans!

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2021 11:30 AM (MVjcR)

92 When Biden gets removed from office the summer gonna be even more lit.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (0pNhb)

93 I saw Paper Jam at the 1990 Summerfest in Milwaukee, second stage.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (vkDpM)

94 Is this what we've come to, people?

Now we disenfranchise Xerox machines?!

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (oF9jz)

95 The left's official position for months now is that sure, fraud happened, of course it did. Both sides cheat. But there absolutely, definitely, positively wasn't enough fraud to change the election. No way. No siree. And if you try to examine that tenet of faith, you're a [strike]heretic[/strike] conspiracy theorist!

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (YYlyE)

96
Creo's color consistency and VDP options will fortify election integrity.

Posted by: Xerox/Dominion RFP - FEC Applications at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (yFG1M)

97 Will they?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
---------
Yes.

There is a lot going on, and a lot that has already happened. It just isn't being reported.

Remember the GA voting law that everyone is supposed to hate because racist? It already addresses this with a few of the lesser looked at provisions.

What I would love, much like the AZ audit, is some some state to be able to say out loud "Trump won this state, not Biden".

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (5p7BC)

98 What about all these purple ballots?
Count 'em twice!
Posted by: zmdavid at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (xqRaG)

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That's what the purple means! They're the votes from the state superdelegates.

Posted by: Speed Racer's Banana Hammock at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (V40IZ)

99 Unreal. And nothing will ever be reversed. They do what they can get away with.

But thank fuck for the conserving conservatives who conserve conservatism with the white heat of a supernova.

And also for comity and losing with dignity. And the peaceful silencing of Big Tech.

Assholes, may they all typedelete in a typedelete of typedelete.

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (H+S8x)

100 54 Two things that I think we should keep an eye on:

(1) "Hundreds" of people arrested yesterday thanks to an FBI app that tracked their communications on a "secret" communications network. The BBC article made mention that "royals" were also using it.

(2) German doctor Fuellmich is representing thousands of health care providers, etc, in an attempt to bring a "Nuremburg-like" international case against the people who used the testing kits that gave false positives
Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:26 AM (AwPyG)


Wow! Got links for these bombshells?

Posted by: Emmie at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (tcsxg)

101 There may be "no known mechanism" to install Trump as President ... BUT I still refuse to just say "oh, well, haha, they cheated again, let's just give it to Biden/China, surrender the Republic ... better luck next time we form a Republic based on Liberty.


Biden/HeelsUp should be removed ... and no, that cannot mean President Pelosi. There has to be a new "mechanism" to confront the Coup/Junta (and all its underwriters). American Ingenuity can arrive at some better conclusion than surrender to evil.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (Cus5s)

102 >>> This can only lead in a good direction.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (guGkK)

Things that must not stand but are allowed to stand are never good. It's the open, brazen nature of the injustice that appals me the most. Not because I believe that something important and vital is now gone, but because I now realize it was never there, during my lifetime at least.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (1ln8o)

103 if nobody gets a 5AM FBI raid , it will matter not.


noboby will go to jail,

-

one party invented the John Doe swat raid

one party invented tolerating John Doe swat raids.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (vkDpM)

104 "'All of them were strangely pristine,' said Voyles..."


Much like Joe Biden's electro-encephalogram.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (guGkK)

105 59 Trumps win was so huge that the Dems had to go to Defcon 1 and they got sloppy. But their arrogance (rightfully so) that they could get away with it dictated that they didn't need to fold or cover up.
Posted by: DitkaCA at June 08, 2021 11:27 AM (kVjCi)

Also needs to be said.. they wouldn't have gotten this far without support from the GOP.

Posted by: Inogame at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (53oGX)

106 Lizzy, have not followed it closely enough and have not found anyone who has carefully and comprehensively done so - but I think the running of ballots multiple times through the tabulation machines was in Wayne County MI, as witnessed by the young female contractor. I think she testified before the legislative panel there??

I need to finish the Navarro report on the election. I think it's mostly a macro, top-down, statistical-pattern-based analysis, but a good start. What I've been wanting to see since the moment Trump said he suspected hanky-panky was the analysis from his data team that surely was the basis for his statement.

Things like the Biden data team saying Trump needed 53% of election day votes in PA (he got 61%) to win the state - things like that. But from the Trump numbers guys. There's no way they don't have multiple areas in which the official results are impossible to square with historical patterns, registrations, etc.

And then there's Braynard's project, ID'ing illegal ballots that were counted - I believe with just a partial sample he already has found more illegitimate votes than the Biden "margin" in GA.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (OTzUX)

107 From the previous thread an important question for all with this type of knowledge.
Posted by: Floridachick at June 08, 2021 11:27 AM (DnWIB)


The states determine this because they used to have poll taxes until the feds said those were unconstitutional; but they still sent it back to the states to make it right.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (y7DUB)

108 This story matters, but in the grand scheme of things it won't. Biden will not be removed, Trump will have been right yet again, and the 2024 election will also be rife for fraud.

Also, fuck Mike Pence.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (XSRBF)

109 What about all these purple ballots?
Count 'em twice!
Posted by: zmdavid at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (xqRaG)
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Why don't you try some of my purple ballots?
I've been voting them for six or seven weeks now
Haven't got caught once
Probably get us both elected

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (WGara)

110 You guys are all crazy. This is just a conspiracy theory like the lab-leak conspiracy theory.

(is there a sarcasm font on this thing?)

Posted by: 496 at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (U1eOr)

111 74 What will happen? Nobody knows, since this is uncharted territory.



But it will be up to the individual states to decide.

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (AwPyG)

It's sorta like getting a 5th trimester abortion.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (ynpvh)

112 Yeah, even though the Biden junta will never give up power voluntarily, we still need to get this marked down if at all possible. Having the government/media complex go from casually ridiculing the claim of election fraud to sullenly refusing to discuss it doesn't seem like that much of a step, but it is. They cannot bear to lose the moral high ground; otherwise they have to admit to being nothing more than criminals.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (Vgw1E)

113 The article itself is even more depressing than Ace's excerpt.

Voyles was fired from her job as a Fulton County poll manager for going public with this. The place where the shrink-wrapped ballots are being held was already breached once, and the Dems are fighting any effort to protect or count these ballots tooth-and-nail.

Good news, though - Brad Raffensperger has been censured by the GA GOP.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (mdjgu)

114 I cannot believe how much evidence they were allowed to destroy in Georgia, most of it caught on tape. Computers, voting machines, ballots, everything. They hide behind jogger gangs, educated white women, and cartels in Atlanta.

I'll never forgive our leaders for being so ill prepared for the 2020 election having zero legal teams ready to go, allowing our history to be destroyed for 4 years prior, not declaring states of insurrection during the riots, and just grifting and monitoring.

Zero excuse in allowing what occurred to occur. Weak sauce all the way around.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (tQJ0o)

115 105 Also needs to be said.. they wouldn't have gotten this far without support from the GOP.
Posted by: Inogame at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (53oGX)

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Theory:

The state level GOP greatly underestimated the anger from their own constituents regarding the steal. They went along with it because they thought it would blow over.

It has not.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (LvTSG)

116 Count 'em twice!
Posted by: zmdavid at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (xqRaG)

--- and smell them too!

Posted by: 496 at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (U1eOr)

117 BUT, it will make it more widely known and accepted that the Biden presidency is a corrupt fraud, and that America is under the control of an cabal of illegitimate usurpers.

This can only lead in a good direction.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (guGkK)

i disagree a lot. i think IF it's proven that biden is illegit, then the poptential for the whole world to get sporty goes up exponentially.

think about it, the US doesn't have a duly elected president anymore. who's actually in charge? who does the military answer to? who is going to stop anyone of numerous bad actors on the world stage - they would point out that biden or harris isn't the duly elected leader of the free world, they cheated to get in.

i think the ONLY solution would be a new election, but that's not something we do. i think THAT is when life gets VERY dangerous...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (8D42x)

118 105 59 Trumps win was so huge that the Dems had to go to Defcon 1 and they got sloppy. But their arrogance (rightfully so) that they could get away with it dictated that they didn't need to fold or cover up.

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the left seemed to know this, and they also knew which states they could flip, and they knew which senate races they would also flip. Mich to GA.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (vkDpM)

119
The average donk voter knows damned well that the election was stolen. They just think it was justified because they're tired of waiting for their chance to shoot a few kneeling Kulaks in the back of the neck.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (NaiLP)

120 Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:26 AM (AwPyG)

Heard the a guy get interviewed by Bannon about the second issue. Fascinating to say the least.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (0pNhb)

121 If we outlaw Xerox machines, only outlaws will have Xerox machines!

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (dYmWY)

122 @100

See Gab.com--look at their recent timeline. The arrests thing is National File or Bias News, and I think both are discussed by @MajorPatriot

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (AwPyG)

123 Also, isn't there video of one of the election workers who stayed behind talking about how she helped "her guy" Biden? I think her name was Ruby.
Posted by: Emmie at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (tcsxg)


Yes, Ruby and her daughter have been deposed. They're the ones in several videos, but most famously the one where they pull the boxes out from under tables and count them again and again after they chased everybody out of the building. There's quite a few videos of them before hand talking and doing suspicious things, such as palming a thumb drive and shuffling boxes.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (wAnMi)

124 What would be the solution, should the general
populace (or call it enough of the States) declare that Biden is not
the rightful president?
I think Jenna Ellis is right on this. We have a Constitutional process and it was followed and the electors, acting on behalf of their state legislatures, elected Biden-Harris, and that can't be undone. Theoretically, Harris could resign and Biden could appoint Trump as VP, then resign, but there is no way in the world that would ever happen. No, we just have to gut through the next 3-1/2 years and take our punishment for allowing it to happen. There are a lot of things that could have been done to prevent a lot of the fraud, and we can all point fingers, but the bottom line is that the ultimate responsibility for Presidential elections rests in the state legislatures, and that's where the focus for fixing the problems needs to be. The Constitutional system is bigger than one four-year term. We will survive this.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (BMmaB)

125 110 You guys are all crazy. This is just a conspiracy theory like the lab-leak conspiracy theory.

(is there a sarcasm font on this thing?)
Posted by: 496 at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (U1eOr)

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We're so sarcastic so much that we would need a special font for normal talk.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (LvTSG)

126 To RESET the PRINTER to factory defaults, touch RESET to Factory Default.
Unless you're allergic to Factory Defaults.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (v0R5T)

127 81 63 Shoulda used mimeograph.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (yL25O)

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What about all these purple ballots?

Count 'em twice!

Posted by: zmdavid at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (xqRaG)

At least there will be some purple thumbs, not on voters mind you.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (ynpvh)

128 What are the repukes going to do about it. The steal worked and that's all that matters.
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While I agree with you that it worked and that's all that matters, they do care that we not find definitive evidence. First off, they want the maneuvering room to try it again at some point.

More importantly though, imo, Democrat control of the Congress is so razor-thin in both houses that besmirching the election results could really rile up state legislatures to finally start taking power back from Congress (or, at least, protect their election turf). National Democrats want a true national government, and not one constantly constrained by drags from the people or the states. They don;t want to give anyone a pretext for fighting back at the slow erosion over decades of state powers to Washington. A provably illegitimate election would be very bad news for those Democrats.

Posted by: Jamie Dimon at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (Zny85)

129 This is Outrage!

Posted by: Xerox machine at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (oF9jz)

130 The State of Georgia's SoS may, in fact, be the most corrupt, incompetent SoS in America.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (Rvt88)

131 #95 The Left also says that if it wasn't fraud in every single county/district, then it's minor and couldn't possibly affect the election at the national level.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (UHVv4)

132 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)

133 Maybe the dominos ARE starting to fall.

Posted by: Zeera Hunkering down here, Boss at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (DDazy)

134 It's a damn good thing they didn't do all this when it really mattered........

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)

135 Ok. I asked this question previous thread. Is there a right to vote in the constitution?

Leftists in my neck of the woods are claiming that it is in the 15th amendment. Why? Because they argue, if we can demand registration and identification to vote so can we do that for guns. They are pushing their universal background checks and registration.

But I cannot find a definitive source that there is a right to vote or not in the constitution.

Posted by: Floridachick at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (DnWIB)

136 Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (OTzUX)

I will try to remember his name but there is a dude in Michigan who claims he has evidence the machines switched votes. Heard him interviewed a few times.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (0pNhb)

137 @119

I completely agree. You have to be pretty dumb to be this gullible, and the people I know who were defending all this are not dumb.

It's just a means to an end

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (AwPyG)

138 88 Everybody who is not a leftist knows the election was stolen. For
goodness sakes, even foreign countries know it! And it cannot be
hidden any more (see: Those banners saying, "Trump Won!" at recent major
league baseball games)



May the press and the dems be annihilated for generations because of
this. ( I 'd like to see actual, infinite jail terms for all involved,
but I'd settle for seeing them permanently exiled and declared
pariahs.)





Posted by: RondinellaMamma - Trump is still The Duly Elected President of the USA at June 08, 2021 11:30 AM (8/7u2)

Gibbets, not Jail terms.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (ynpvh)

139 If we outlaw Xerox machines, only outlaws will have Xerox machines!
Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (dYmWY)
.......

What we need is comprehensive Xerox machine legislation.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2021 11:36 AM (v0R5T)

140 If we outlaw Xerox machines, only outlaws will have Xerox machines!
Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (dYmWY)


Punks! Buncha wannabe's.

Posted by: Mimeograph at June 08, 2021 11:36 AM (wAnMi)

141 This is all just racism.

Posted by: squid_hunt at June 08, 2021 11:36 AM (Ectld)

142 LOVE IS LOVE, VOTES ARE VOTES, RACIST H8RZ!!

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 08, 2021 11:36 AM (vWVnN)

143 It is a well known fact that Mitt Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years.

Posted by: The Searchlight Strangler at June 08, 2021 11:36 AM (flINI)

144 It's a damn good thing they didn't do all this when it really mattered........
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)


Exactly! What's the rush here?

Posted by: 496 at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (U1eOr)

145 I hate to give Gore credit for a profound statement, but he was correct when he said that "There is no controlling legal authority."

Well, to be clear. There is a controlling authority. But, it is not legal. There will be more than sufficient proof to determine that the presidential election was indeed stolen. But, those who orchestrated the result will face no repercussions. Those who carried it out will face no repercussions. And, those who are obligated to right the wrong will choose not to do so. It will be accepted because those who benefitted are not wont to apply fairness or the rule of law, and their mentality allows them to claim the exact opposite of the truth if it serves their goals. or the goals they are instructed to have.

Short version: Who's going to prosecute the offenders? No one. The state might try, but the Feds will grab jurisdiction and bury it. They've been doing that in the open for the last five years. They've doing it a lot longer than that covertly.

Posted by: Orson at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (1zQyf)

146 the left seemed to know this, and they also knew
which states they could flip, and they knew which senate races they
would also flip. Mich to GA.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (vkDpM
It was actually just a handful of counties that were really anomalous. Fulton, Georgia; Wayne, Michigan; Milwaukee and Dane, Wisconsin; Philadephia and Alleghany, Pennsylvania; Maricopa, Arizona; etc.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (BMmaB)

147 "Have we discovered what was in those suitcases which were only brought out and opened after election inspectors were ejected?"

Two of the those women caught on video, the mother and daughter, counting the same stack over and over have been subpoenaed. GP posted the subpoenas.

Posted by: Fool Otto at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (DB16e)

148 Xerox?

Oh, Brother.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM


The Dems should be Richo'd.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (m+jkK)

149 You'd think it would be pretty easy to beat a guy who didn't campaign, unless.....

Posted by: BignJames at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (AwYPR)

150 Whatever happens, we damn sure don't want copy machine backlash.

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (MVjcR)

151 Xerox?

Oh, Brother.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (6FeV1)

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They're going to be arraigned on breaking RICOH laws.

Posted by: Speed Racer's Banana Hammock at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (+hPIb)

152 @128

Agree. The last thing the NWO people want is for local people to rise up against their local politicians, and feel their own power

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (AwPyG)

153
Not widespread
Jim Crow
Insignificant
Could not affect the outcome

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (mht8P)

154 using and counting verified ballots is a sign of white supremacyu

Posted by: Tim Riggins at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (vkDpM)

155 >>> think about it, the US doesn't have a duly elected president anymore. who's actually in charge? who does the military answer to?
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (8D42x)


This is a junta. The military has already chosen a side. It doesn't appear to be the same one I'm on

Posted by: banana Dream at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (1ln8o)

156 Yes, Ruby and her daughter have been deposed.


Did Ruby take her love to town?

Posted by: Mookie at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (gll8P)

157 100 54 Two things that I think we should keep an eye on:

(1) "Hundreds" of people arrested yesterday thanks to an FBI app that tracked their communications on a "secret" communications network. The BBC article made mention that "royals" were also using it.

(2) German doctor Fuellmich is representing thousands of health care providers, etc, in an attempt to bring a "Nuremburg-like" international case against the people who used the testing kits that gave false positives
Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:26 AM (AwPyG)

Wow! Got links for these bombshells?
Posted by: Emmie at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (tcsxg)

Link to #1 - Australian Press: https://tinyurl.com/5xpfyztn

Let's guess which 'royal' was using this app?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (mdjgu)

158 140 Ha! Newbie!

Posted by: Carbon paper at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (oF9jz)

159 I wish I saved the comments of some here who declared that while they thought some cheating happened it wasn't really that much and that Trump lost because of his tweets. Just so if all this does get exposed I would have them handy to repost any time they made a declaration about anything.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (G2zl5)

160 Are the other stolen states doing any sort of examination, or just AZ and GA?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (DpkTQ)

161 @153: And NO STANDING

Posted by: 496 at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (U1eOr)

162 The State of Georgia's SoS may, in fact, be the most corrupt, incompetent SoS in America.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (Rvt8
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Hold my wine spritzer.

Posted by: Oregon at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (WGara)

163

this is not new info

this came out in November

Bannon's The War Room covered it

Posted by: will choose a nic later at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (bTQ72)

164 Until DNC and MSM members start getting shot like Mexican electoral candidates, nothing will change.

We, and what's left of America, need a leader who is able to organize direction action.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (XvPQV)

165 Xerox?

Oh, Brother.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM

The Dems should be Richo'd.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (m+jkK)


Sharp idea.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (tfgr7)

166 just a handful of counties that were really anomalous. Fulton, Georgia; Wayne, Michigan; Milwaukee and Dane, Wisconsin; Philadephia and Alleghany, Pennsylvania; Maricopa, Arizona; etc.

Posted by: Caesar North

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yup, they knew where to go.

Trump won all the bellweahters and states with safe voter ID but lost 10 counties by millions of ballots

Posted by: Tim Riggins at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (vkDpM)

167 Jeebus, folks. Because there is no mechanism to "reinstate" Trump, it's not worth proving the election was stolen? That's idiotic.

It will be a giant cudgel to be used *AGAINST MOST OF THE GOP*, something that should have some appeal here.

And that's just one possible result.

It won't be an historical asterisk, it will be an unanswerable denial of Biden's legitimacy. No telling what impact it would have, since it will be a first. But there are no downsides. Easy choice.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (OTzUX)

168 If we outlaw Xerox machines, only outlaws will have Xerox machines!
Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (dYmWY)
.......
What we need is comprehensive Xerox machine legislation.
Posted by: wth at June 08, 2021 11:36 AM (v0R5T)


First is to pass comprehensive legislation on high-capacity double-sided copiers. NOBODY needs to copy more than 100 sheets at a time.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (wAnMi)

169 Love the 'Trump Won' banner at Fenway. And the pan back to the fans who can see it and are applauding
https://bit.ly/2TdFxNl

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (1fg6a)

170 Just wondering.

Has The Bulwark made the conservative case for legitimizing a presidential candidate who won the election by massive electoral fraud yet?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (guGkK)

171 The state level GOP greatly underestimated the anger from their own constituents regarding the steal. They went along with it because they thought it would blow over.

It has not.

Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (LvTSG)


The Ohio GOP is still in denial about how MAGA the base is. And they ran a clean election.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (y7DUB)

172 Theory:

The state level GOP greatly underestimated the anger from their own constituents regarding the steal. They went along with it because they thought it would blow over.

It has not.

Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (LvTSG)

Completely agree.. and to the state's voters credit they have not relaxed the pressure.
I mean I really believe they thought the Trump voters would sitdown and shut up and vote harder next time in the face of this obvious mess. Take McConnell's initial reaction, then they put together the Jan 6th gaslighting event which also didn't work. They've bitten off too much here and might slowly be coming around to that fact.

Posted by: Inogame at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (53oGX)

173 140 Ha! Newbie!
Posted by: Carbon paper

Carbon paper!? Luxury!!

-- Monks copying it old school.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (Rvt88)

174 Bannon's The War Room covered it

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worth noting that at the same time, fucking what's her name (sydney powell) was going on about leviathan nonsense. the actual steal was much more pedestrian.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (vkDpM)

175 123 Yes, Ruby and her daughter have been deposed.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (wAnMi)


But Biden-Harris will never be deposed, in either meaning of the word.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (ynpvh)

176 Unless there is a way to overturn the election results if the fraud is exposed and evidence clearly shows Trump won, this is nothing more than an exercise in electoral masturbation.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 08, 2021 11:40 AM (3H9h1)

177 'PC LOAD LETTER' -- what the eff does THAT mean?

Posted by: Georgia Democratic Party at June 08, 2021 11:40 AM (+hPIb)

178
15th amendment says voting can't be restricted on basis of race or prior slave status. As I noted in the other thread, all the Constitution guarantees is a Republican Form of Government. Again, which I take to mean at least *some* form of voting. Beyond that, really nothing, and it's left to the States.

IOW: my reading of this is that a State law saying "only members of NAMBLA can vote" would be strictly speaking Constitutional, as long as it didn't say "except for the ethnic Chinese NAMBLA guys - they're the worst!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 08, 2021 11:40 AM (yFG1M)

179 The State of Georgia's SoS may, in fact, be the most corrupt, incompetent SoS in America.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (Rvt8

There's some pretty stiff competition out there.

Posted by: BignJames at June 08, 2021 11:40 AM (AwYPR)

180 Shoulda used mimeograph.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2021 11:28 AM (yL25O)

What about all these purple ballots?
Count 'em twice!
Posted by: zmdavid at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (xqRaG)
At least there will be some purple thumbs, not on voters mind you.Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (ynpvh
The problem would be people sniffing the ballots.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 11:40 AM (BMmaB)

181 just a handful of counties that were really anomalous.

And by anomalous he means that cheating was above the historical, accepted norms.

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 11:40 AM (1fg6a)

182 Some soy boy soy slapped the President of France.

https://bit.ly/3infw93

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 11:40 AM (YYlyE)

183 except that each of the darkened bubbles featured an identical white void inside them in the shape of a tiny crescent, indicating they'd been marked with toner ink instead of a pen or pencil.
++++
They can do one better, and I'll be curious to see if they do so. If this happened (Xeroxing ballots), they likely used a high-speed machine. Modern (last decade or so) high-speed printers usually embed a microdot pattern in printed materials. All color laser printers do this and most monochrome ones do. This is an anti-counterfeiting measure. The printers embed the pattern - which can't be seen with the naked eye - into printed materials that allow them to be tracked. This is always true for color since new color-offset high-precision laser printers can be used for forgery, but a lot of the technology carries over.

If there are microdot patterns on those ballots, it's game over - regardless of what the bubbles look like.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 11:40 AM (Jsjd7)

184 @160

Committees from Penn and Nevada visited AZ to see how it's done.

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (AwPyG)

185 It won't be an historical asterisk, it will be an unanswerable denial of Biden's legitimacy. No telling what impact it would have, since it will be a first. But there are no downsides. Easy choice.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (OTzUX)



This. Let's just see where this all goes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (guGkK)

186 The state level GOP greatly underestimated the anger from their own constituents regarding the steal. They went along with it because they thought it would blow over.

It has not.

Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (LvTSG)

Better Theory: They don't care

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (H+S8x)

187 Nah, bruh. This ain't it. Keep tryin though.

Posted by: Magical Leftist Handwave at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (uhPTO)

188 Shoulda used mimeograph.

I was gonna, but then I got high.

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (1fg6a)

189 These ballots are so phony that George Floyd refused to pass them!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (Ndje9)

190 167 It won't be an historical asterisk, it will be an unanswerable denial of Biden's legitimacy. No telling what impact it would have, since it will be a first. But there are no downsides. Easy choice.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (OTzUX)

=========

If SCOTUS would find all legislation signed by Biden unconstitutional because he's an illegitimate president, that could be fun. Of course, all he's really signed as of this point is the covid relief bill that Nancy held up until after the election. That money's gone so it wouldn't do anything.

Invalidating his executive orders would be better, I think.

But that would require SCOTUS to do what's right.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (LvTSG)

191 148 Xerox?



Oh, Brother.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM



The Dems should be Richo'd.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (m+jkK)

Would that be a Kodak moment (Yes, Kodak made printers).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (ynpvh)

192 Caesar is correct - and I'd add Clark County NV, for sure. Comically crude irregularities and violations there. And a state I think Trump had a very good shot in, due to his unusual political appeal across demos (of the sort that led to his historic results among "Hispanics" in border counties of TX).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (OTzUX)

193 Are the other stolen states doing any sort of examination, or just AZ and GA?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (DpkTQ)


New Hampshire has already done something. I think there are others. The Epoch Times has covered it reasonably well.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (y7DUB)

194 115 105
Theory:

The state level GOP greatly underestimated the anger from their own constituents regarding the steal. They went along with it because they thought it would blow over.

It has not.

Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (LvTSG)

Raffensperger has been censured - eight months after Election Day - and Kemp was booed at a recent GA GOP gathering. The state GOP knows that they messed-up, bigly. The anger hasn't even begun to subside, and the Fulton and Maricopa revelations will only serve to stoke that anger indefinitely.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (mdjgu)

195 "Some soy boy soy slapped the President of France. "

Soy boys are on a spectrum in France.

Posted by: squid_hunt at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (Ectld)

196 - Biden's presidency is illegitimate

- There is no straightforward mechanism to simply declare Trump president as a result of that, short of what amounts to a coup-d'etat.


These two statements are not mutually exclusive. They are both true.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (6FeV1)

197 173 Writing! Luxury!

Posted by: Druids and bards at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (oF9jz)

198 Too soon?

Or not soon enough?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (Ndje9)

199 The state level GOP greatly underestimated the anger from their own constituents regarding the steal. They went along with it because they thought it would blow over.

It has not.

Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (LvTSG)



And Lucasfilm thought the blowback from the Gina Carano firing would blow over quickly. It hasn't.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (guGkK)

200 Xerox?
Oh, Brother.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM

The Dems should be Richo'd.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (m+jkK)

Sharp idea.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM


And fired out of a Cannon.
(or have we already done that one?)

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (m+jkK)

201 173 140 Ha! Newbie!
Posted by: Carbon paper

Carbon paper!? Luxury!!

-- Monks copying it old school.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (Rvt8

-------------

?
!

Posted by: The Egyptians at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (+hPIb)

202 I will try to remember his name but there is a dude in Michigan who claims he has evidence the machines switched votes. Heard him interviewed a few times.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (0pNhb)

Reply hazy, try again.

Posted by: Dominion Magic 8 Ball Voter Game at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (YxVzA)

203 Meh. They're never going to admit how fraud-filled the election was, and they're going to fight any voting reforms.
But it is start to pile up in the minds of people.

Speaking of which, I have to think most Dems thought/wished Joe'd be out by now. How much longer until they push him out.

Posted by: Wally at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (Cge5i)

204 130 The State of Georgia's SoS may, in fact, be the most corrupt, incompetent SoS in America.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 08, 2021 11:34 AM (Rvt8

Michigan would like a word...

Posted by: Inogame at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (53oGX)

205 101There may be "no known mechanism" to install Trump as President ... BUT I
still refuse to just say "oh, well, haha, they cheated again, let's
just give it to Biden/China, surrender the Republic ... better luck next
time we form a Republic based on Liberty.





Biden/HeelsUp should be removed ... and no, that cannot mean
President Pelosi. There has to be a new "mechanism" to confront the
Coup/Junta (and all its underwriters). American Ingenuity can arrive at
some better conclusion than surrender to evil.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (Cus5s)


What they should do is hold a special election of Trump V Biden using all of these "no cheat" laws. Biden will lose by a wide margin.

Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (mpXpK)

206 45 -- I don't share your optimism. How much pushback has there been in D.C., Portland, Minneapolis, Chicago, and all those other blue fortresses? And in most of those instances, it's businesses being burned and looted, people's homes being attacked, people themselves being beaten up in the streets. And there's little to no pushback. So, no, there will not be more than a token pushback against proven election fraud and little to no demand for election integrity going forward.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (/7+9I)

207 Don't sell yourself short. No one here thinks you're cynical.

I do. But when the topic is politics, I also think "cynical" is just another way of saying "not intentionally blind."

Posted by: Oddbob at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (nfrXX)

208 Until DNC and MSM members start getting shot like Mexican electoral candidates, nothing will change.



We, and what's left of America, need a leader who is able to organize direction action.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (XvPQV)

Did you see a woman tried to stab the LA mayoral candidate at Venice Beach yesterday?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (BMmaB)

209 Also, fuck Mike Pence.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (XSRBF)

...

I think ace should just add that to the top banner on the site.

Or like google changes doodles every day. Ace can have a F*** this guy in particular doodle from time to time.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (yL25O)

210 Over at LukeWarmAir they are veeeeeery concerned that illegal Immigration is at a 15 year high. Hmm if only there had a been a man who vowed to be tough on illegals that was running for president last year, huh?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (DlG3S)

211 Also, fuck Mike Pence.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (XSRBF)


I think this is something we can all agree upon. I won't say he is coward because I don't know the man. But I will say that his repeated actions under duress point to a pattern of timidity at best. I'll just leave it at that.

Posted by: TC at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (IOaKQ)

212 Thought printers and copy machines were already required to have detectable micro ID patterns built-in, as well as not reproducing at 100% 1-1 ratio as anti counterfeiting measures.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (vWVnN)

213 If the media can't suppress this fraud story - and I don't think they can - the new talking point will be how this all creates doubt, which in turn will threaten our fragile recovery. You can bank on that.

Posted by: East of Omaha at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (qTBpx)

214 192 Caesar is correct - and I'd add Clark County NV, for sure. Comically crude irregularities and violations there. And a state I think Trump had a very good shot in, due to his unusual political appeal across demos (of the sort that led to his historic results among "Hispanics" in border counties of TX).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (OTzUX)

Rhomboid - what do you think the chances are that McAllen TX went 17% for the FICUS on Election Day, when they just elected a Republican for the first time since 1997, five months into the FICUS' term?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (mdjgu)

215 It was a one-dot, crescent-horned, flyin' purple ballot puker
(One-dot, crescent-horned, flyin' purple ballot puker)
A one-dot, crescent-horned, flyin' purple ballot puker
Sure looks strange to me (One dot?)

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2021 11:44 AM (UHVv4)

216 " There has to be a new "mechanism" to confront the Coup/Junta"

It would require a new continental congress. Which I'm not 100% opposed to.

Posted by: squid_hunt at June 08, 2021 11:44 AM (Ectld)

217 regardless of what the bubbles look like.

But what about tiny bubbles? https://bit.ly/3pyqSIH

Posted by: Mookie at June 08, 2021 11:44 AM (gll8P)

218 209 Also, fuck Mike Pence.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2021 11:32 AM (XSRBF)


...


I think ace should just add that to the top banner on the site.


Or like google changes doodles every day. Ace can have a F*** this guy in particular doodle from time to time.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (yL25O)

Don't want to get Shep too excited now.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:44 AM (ynpvh)

219 May I suggest nuking Washington D.C. from orbit...it's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: FriscoYoda at June 08, 2021 11:44 AM (+56GQ)

220 "Some soy boy soy slapped the President of France. "

Soy boys are on a spectrum in France.

Posted by: squid_hunt at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (Ectld)

Same as oat boys and almond boys?

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 08, 2021 11:44 AM (uhPTO)

221 New Hampshire has already done something. I think there are others. The Epoch Times has covered it reasonably well.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (y7DUB)

New Hampshire found that a fold in the ballot would cause that fold to be counted as a vote right? Anyone want to bet that this was known and the ballots have been specifically designed so that a certain preferred candidate is listed at the fold?

Posted by: Buzzion at June 08, 2021 11:44 AM (G2zl5)

222 >>I think the running of ballots multiple times through the tabulation machines was in Wayne County MI, as witnessed by the young female contractor. I think she testified before the legislative panel there??


Oh, right!

Think it was Georgia where there were piles of unncreased ballots in a warehouse that were hauled off and likely destroyed. I recall the video from people staking out the ballot warehouse for that type of shenanigans.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (bDqIh)

223 1 Pretty easy to test the "ink" to see if it's a Xerox or not I'd imagine.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2021 11:17 AM (UHVv4)


Yep. Ink v. toner should be pretty easy to determine.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (YqDXo)

224 I know the constitution is silent here, but explain to me again why fraud in Arizona and Georgia forces Texas as an example to endure SLo and the Ho?

Posted by: White Parasite Uptight Out of Sight at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (xEIoY)

225 @174

The fiddling with the voting machines was multinational, and involved satellite links.

This stuff is the hard copy ballots, since you need something to support the machine fiddling.

Once the audits show how lopsided the hard copies are, (and no folds, no fingerprints, etc) then you have evidence to take a look at how the machines got their totals. If Bannon is to be believed, a lot of countries were involved

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (AwPyG)

226 @135
But I cannot find a definitive source that there is a right to vote or not in the constitution.

Posted by: Floridachick at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (DnWIB)

===================
The nuts and bolts method of election is left to the states to determine (section 4), but the Constitution states the People choose the House (and, by amendment, the Senate) and the President, then the President chooses Article 3 judges, with the consent of the Senate.It's right in the preamble (We the People...) and then in the first sentence of Section 2. Presidential electors are chose according to state Constitutions, and the Federal Constitution stays out of elections.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (Zny85)

227 Take McConnell's initial reaction, then they put together the Jan 6th gaslighting event which also didn't work. They've bitten off too much here and might slowly be coming around to that fact.
Posted by: Inogame at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (53oGX)


The McConnell reversal on Impeachment 2 must have gotten some brutally instant feedback.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (y7DUB)

228 I assume Georgia's official ballots have a watermark, like other state's do, for security purposes. The auditors in the AZ audit were using light boxes to check for the presence of the watermark on the AZ ballots. Don't know yet if they found any fakes.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (k4dH2)

229 @somebitchiknow put together a composite video of Ruby and company in the State Farm Arena doing their ballot stuffing routine. This is pretty cool, because she put all the camera angles together - rather than the 4 screen videos we've seen - so it's easier to see just how they were coordinating the whole thing.

https://tinyurl.com/ph3jebea

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (wAnMi)

230 Posted by: Buzzion at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (G2zl5)

Do you have my comment about how Trump won by at least 10 million votes? Just throw it in the mix, I can never prove it.

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (H+S8x)

231 Better Theory: They don't care
Posted by: ... at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (H+S8x)


They care if their political gravy train becomes threatened.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (Vgw1E)

232 OT but I would just like to remind everyone that the CDC all causes deaths have been below 105% of expected deaths, which i believe is below the "pandemic" threshold, since early March. There is no emergency and all emergency powers should be stripped of every politician immediately.

Posted by: InCali at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (ov5G+)

233 The election outcome isn't going to change. If it was brought to court, SCOTUS will boot on standing, or say something such as the 1/6 federal vote certification is all that matters, regardless of whether there was underlying fraud.

But that's not the value of these audits. Prove that the outcome was the result of fraud and Biden / Harris loses any moral legitimacy to power. GOP that were in on the fraud (and who would prefer to see it buried) will be forced to pass election integrity measures.

Trump would be proven to be correct (again). An angry populace will blame Biden / Harris (the fraudulent president) for everything. And we get a shot at trying to fix the mess in a future election.

Posted by: Revenant at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (Z7rbj)

234 160 Are the other stolen states doing any sort of examination, or just AZ and GA?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (DpkTQ)
---------
Biden needs to lose 37 EVs to not have a majority. GA + AZ is 27. So we would still need 10 more if we could somehow start undoing state elections.

Posted by: zmdavid at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (xqRaG)

235
Jeebus, folks. Because there is no mechanism to "reinstate" Trump, it's not worth proving the election was stolen? That's idiotic.

Posted by: rhomboid


Who said that?
Someone here??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (GfNfN)

236 Xerox machines are a tax. Case dismissed.
- Scotus

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (DlG3S)

237 212 Thought printers and copy machines were already required to have detectable micro ID patterns built-in, as well as not reproducing at 100% 1-1 ratio as anti counterfeiting measures.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (vWVnN)


Yup. Various non-counterfeiting measures. The dots are printed in yellow, so only easily seen under blue light (or sometimes UV depending on the ink/toner).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

238 Unless there is a way to overturn the election results if the fraud is exposed and evidence clearly shows Trump won, this is nothing more than an exercise in electoral masturbation.
Posted by: Martini Farmer


No, things change deeply if the fraud is shown. Instead of a mechanism at the top, it's the very foundation- We, The People- that changes.

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (XHrkn)

239 May I suggest nuking Washington D.C. from orbit...it's the only way to be sure.
Posted by: FriscoYoda at June 08, 2021 11:44 AM


Can we wait until after the NoVaMoMe?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (m+jkK)

240 Wow. What took so long? Why now?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (VgIeo)

241 worth noting that at the same time, fucking what's her name (sydney powell) was going on about leviathan nonsense. the actual steal was much more pedestrian.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (vkDpM)

I'm pretty convinced that the advent of Powell and that other creep Lin Wood as News Stories was enemy action designed to chum the waters.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (6FeV1)

242
Was this in the polling station that covered the Windows with Pizza Boxes??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (GfNfN)

243
the Ds seem not to care that when voting stops working, shooting will start working



this is really dangerous

Posted by: will choose a nic later at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (bTQ72)

244 "At this point, what difference does it make?"

--some unlikeable harridan.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (E+OcO)

245 Clearly the Supreme's decided those with the best riots win elections. Lets follow the law and burn these mf ers down.

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (/MaDp)

246 140 Ha! Newbie!
Posted by: Carbon paper

Carbon paper!? Luxury!!

-- Monks copying it old school.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (Rvt8

*****

Pffffft

Posted by: Sofer Setam at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (flINI)

247 What they should do is hold a special election of Trump V Biden using all of these "no cheat" laws. Biden will lose by a wide margin.
Posted by: Vic

In person, purple thumb would do it.

I worked national elections for 10 years. Anything more tech than the above are policies/procedures designed to make it easier to cheat - both parties have had a hand in it over the years.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (Rvt88)

248 TJM, it's critical that the re-examination of ballots etc finds material fraud (i.e. that changed the outcome). Absolutely central.

Of course without corrective action, it would seem pointless, but it isn't. If the actual fact of a stolen presidential election can be established to a reasonable standard, it provides the best basis for all future action, political and legislative.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:20 AM (OTzUX)


Exactly. If re-examination shows material fraud, that undercuts all of the Democrat bleating that the election was on the up and up. Who knows, we might even get voter ID out of the ensuing uproar.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (YqDXo)

249 The polar bear hunting is good at Venice Beach this year.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (vWVnN)

250 If SCOTUS would find all legislation signed by Biden
unconstitutional because he's an illegitimate president, that could be
fun. Of course, all he's really signed as of this point is the covid
relief bill that Nancy held up until after the election. That money's
gone so it wouldn't do anything.
Invalidating his executive orders would be better, I think.
But that would require SCOTUS to do what's right. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (LvTSG
You may have something there, TJM. I could actually see an Alabama judge (our version of a Hawaiian judge) issuing a nationwide stay of some EO based on the fact that the election was a product of fraud.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 11:47 AM (BMmaB)

251 Link to #1 - Australian Press: https://tinyurl.com/5xpfyztn

Let's guess which 'royal' was using this app?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (mdjgu)


Thank you, Darrell!

Posted by: Emmie at June 08, 2021 11:47 AM (tcsxg)

252 @224

That was the simple point of Texas v. Penn; our citizens were denied equal protection of the laws when the other states didn't follow the federal constitution.

And even though the USSC is the only court who can hear a state vs. state lawsuit, the USSC turned it down.

But Amy got her 2 million book advance.

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:47 AM (AwPyG)

253 NOT ALLOWING PHOTOCOPIED BALLOTS ON TOTALLY DIFFERENT PAPER IS RACIST!!!!

Posted by: blaster at June 08, 2021 11:47 AM (m/zKn)

254 I've pointed this out before, but this is not our first stolen presidential election. It is our 5th.

President William Jennings Bryan is shaking his fist from the grave.

The first was Andrew Jackson's first run for president. It was stolen from him. In response he built a populist movement that went on the win every election for the next 25 years until the Civil War.

There are things that can be done in response to a stolen election. There are things that have been done in response to a stolen election. The secret ballot we now use only came about due to the theft of Bryan's election.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 08, 2021 11:47 AM (5p7BC)

255 CONSPIRACY THEORY, PEEPLE. CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!

Posted by: This Is CNN at June 08, 2021 11:47 AM (guGkK)

256 These ballots are so phony that George Floyd refused to pass them!
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (Ndje9)

George Floyd - fake Jacksons.
Georgia Floyd - fake Bidens.

Posted by: Speed Racer's Banana Hammock at June 08, 2021 11:47 AM (+hPIb)

257 "I'm pretty convinced that the advent of Powell and that other creep Lin Wood as News Stories was enemy action designed to chum the waters."

Yep.

Posted by: squid_hunt at June 08, 2021 11:47 AM (Ectld)

258 233 Trump would be proven to be correct (again). An angry populace will blame Biden / Harris (the fraudulent president) for everything. And we get a shot at trying to fix the mess in a future election.
Posted by: Revenant at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (Z7rbj)

=========

The normal swing of things is, "We elected you, and you aren't performing to expectations. I think it's time to give the other side a shot."

Now, I'm getting the feeling that it's, "We didn't chose you. We didn't elect you. You stole this. Everything wrong is your fault, and the guy America actually chose was doing better. Fuck you to death with a pineapple."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:47 AM (LvTSG)

259 Am I misremembering something that's only fake-movie-and-book science, or didn't the government not-so-secretly force printer companies to invisible-to-the-naked-eye watermark every modern printer with a serial number or code to track it's provenance?

Wouldn't something like that be important here?

Posted by: common sense at June 08, 2021 11:47 AM (m9Z12)

260
There's a 0.00% chance of it happening but Congress can decertify the January 6th count and go recertify using corrected results.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (mht8P)

261
Democrats: There is nothing wrong with our election system; it's never been better!

Also Democrats: We need to overhaul and federalize the election system in this country!

Republicans: Okay, but let's only overhaul 90% of the election system!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (GfNfN)

262 The conservative case for allowing Democrat counties to print fake ballots.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (DlG3S)

263 242 Was this in the polling station that covered the Windows with Pizza Boxes??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (GfNfN)


Democracy dies in Darkness! Isn't that what the NYT said? Then again, we (were) a Republic...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (ynpvh)

264 New Hampshire found that a fold in the ballot would cause that fold to be counted as a vote right? Anyone want to bet that this was known and the ballots have been specifically designed so that a certain preferred candidate is listed at the fold?
Posted by: Buzzion at June 08, 2021 11:44 AM (G2zl5)


I think so plus they found that the Dominion spinoff machines were undercounting Republican votes. BiNO's "legal expert friends" and American Thinker groveling most impacted.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (y7DUB)

265 Biden/HeelsUp should be removed ... and no, that cannot mean President Pelosi. There has to be a new "mechanism" to confront the Coup/Junta (and all its underwriters). American Ingenuity can arrive at some better conclusion than surrender to evil.
Posted by: illiniwek


The Constitution doesn't provide one or any path to one. Once Congress accepts the Electoral College's certification, the election outcome doesn't matter anymore. I think the only outcome would be impeachment since now 'high crimes and misdemeanors' can mean anything from an actual crime to saying "Poopy!" in a crowded theater.

Impeachment, SCOTUS case for removal, Congressional act for an acting Pres/VP, then Congressional act for new elections.

You notice that Congress has the bulk of the work there, and that just ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (nI1Kq)

266 Rhomboid - what do you think the chances are that McAllen TX went 17% for the FICUS on Election Day, when they just elected a Republican for the first time since 1997, five months into the FICUS' term?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (mdjgu)


It went 40% for Hillary in 2016, so I can buy that this shift among Hispanics is still working itself out. But yes, that makes the "results" from states like Nevada and Arizona even more questionable.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (Vgw1E)

267 Pennsylvania's, in the end, will be shown to be as corrupt as all the other slimeball SoS.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (Zny85)

268 234 Biden needs to lose 37 EVs to not have a majority. GA + AZ is 27. So we would still need 10 more if we could somehow start undoing state elections.
Posted by: zmdavid at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (xqRaG)

==========

"Okay, fine. We stole 2 states, but it obviously wouldn't have mattered because all the other states were fine."
-The narrative, soon

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (LvTSG)

269 > The polar bear hunting is good at Venice Beach this year.

This is code for some gay thing, right?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (YYlyE)

270 Wow. What took so long? Why now?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (VgIeo)

Using the Durham method.

Posted by: BignJames at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (AwYPR)

271
Am I misremembering something that's only fake-movie-and-book science, or didn't the government not-so-secretly force printer companies to invisible-to-the-naked-eye watermark every modern printer with a serial number or code to track it's provenance?

------

Yes. It's a pattern of (usually pale yellow) microdots.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (yFG1M)

272 Was this in the polling station that covered the Windows with Pizza Boxes??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (GfNfN)

That was the Detroit central counting facility, where because of "COVID" they wouldn't let the Republican observers who were inside get out of a little corral area to see what was actually going on.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (BMmaB)

273 The fakes are now allowed to be shown in order to shove them in peoples faces and announce: see, we can cheat and there is nothing you can do about it. We will do this again and again and there is nothing you can do about it.

This is not a hunt for truth, this is a demoralizing strategy to get you to see how all of it is futile and get you to stop voting. The run-off senatorial raves in Georgia ended exactly like that, people gave up.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (RMGKK)

274 Darrell, good question, but I'd have to defer to those who know anything about McAllen. Mayoral races and other local races can have their own weird dynamics, as you know - sometimes there are candidates who are scandal-plagued, things like that.

I'm not of course, for a second, saying there isn't an apparent incongruity there. But I know nothing about the recent election and its particulars.

A good example of what you're talking about, one of my favorites, is WI. Where Biden trailed Clinton/2016 *in every county, in some cases substantially*, yet, yet ..... vastly wildly historically *OUT-performed* her in Dane and Milwaukee. This is something that literally has never happened, and never happens, in a state-wide election of this sort. Never. Any campaign/political technician with any background laughs at the concept.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (OTzUX)

275 You have to give them credit, though, they had these Xerox machines running perfectly. Has that ever happened in your office? Streaks, fading toner, paper jams, etc. These guys would be heroes in the business world (you know, "the paperless office").

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (jacU8)

276 The fucking ACLU and BLM were in charge and turned away volunteers. I watched every single hearing. I read all the court documents. I watched evidence get destroyed in real time.
I want to know where the 250-300 million went to stop the steal Jared's Grifting Gollums raised for legal fees.
Jenna Ellis failed upwards. Rudy was completely out of his element at his age worried about selling shit like cigars.

If I didn't have 350-400 year old direct roots to America, I'd be laughing my ass off tbh.

Our political system is no different than Pro Wrestling except instead of athletes playing actors, we have disgusting debate nerds and bug chasers, but I repeat myself, as actors thinking they are the cream of the crop thespians. It's laughable that a Russian Bolshevik and a jive talking huckster preacher are Senators of Georgia.... really representative of Georgians.

What happened in my home state where I have direct ancestors of the Continental Congress and my country.... I may have to drink until I pass out.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (tQJ0o)

277 253 NOT ALLOWING PHOTOCOPIED BALLOTS ON TOTALLY DIFFERENT PAPER IS RACIST!!!!

Posted by: blaster at June 08, 2021 11:47 AM (m/zKn)

White paper is racist.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (ynpvh)

278 NOT ALLOWING PHOTOCOPIED BALLOTS ON TOTALLY DIFFERENT PAPER IS RACIST!!!!
Posted by: blaster at June 08, 2021 11:47 AM (m/zKn)



That's right. Some POCs can neither figure out how to get an ID or buy the "right" kind of paper.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (guGkK)

279 206 45 -- I don't share your optimism. How much pushback has there been in
D.C., Portland, Minneapolis, Chicago, and all those other blue
fortresses? And in most of those instances, it's businesses being burned
and looted, people's homes being attacked, people themselves being
beaten up in the streets. And there's little to no pushback. So, no,
there will not be more than a token pushback against proven election
fraud and little to no demand for election integrity going forward.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (/7+9I)


There is a big difference here. Those are all large urban areas under total control of the Democrats. This is outright voter fraud in a State with law margin of Biden victory and it has national consequences.

Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (mpXpK)

280 Clutch, thanks for the link at 239. Haven't seen that before.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (uhPTO)

281 If it's proven that the election was stolen, there should be pressure for Biden/Harris to resign, which would give us President Pelosi...

Posted by: zmdavid at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (xqRaG)

282 If SCOTUS would find all legislation signed by Biden
unconstitutional because he's an illegitimate president, that could be fun. Of course, all he's really signed as of this point is the covid relief bill that Nancy held up until after the election. That money's gone so it wouldn't do anything. Invalidating his executive orders would be better, I think.But that would require SCOTUS to do what's right. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (LvTSG


This is not a thing. I know, I know, but the Constitution does not promise us elections with no cheating. Oh, sure some obscure race in NC got redone. It won't happen for the Presidency. All those states verified their electors. The EC met. Biden was made President.

Posted by: blaster at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (m/zKn)

283 Spy school.

Copy n paste.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (VgIeo)

284 I think the Democrats are just arrogant enough to just say "Yea...So What are you going to do about it?" These election workers have to be known! They are not nervous.

Posted by: Paladin at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (7hzzD)

285 #twoweeks

Posted by: creeper at June 08, 2021 11:50 AM (XxJt1)

286 -- Monks copying it old school.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 08, 2021 11:39 AM (Rvt8

Really?

Posted by: Cuneiform at June 08, 2021 11:50 AM (7bRMQ)

287 "If re-examination shows material fraud, that undercuts all of the Democrat bleating that the election was on the up and up. Who knows, we might even get voter ID out of the ensuing uproar."

Remember, under Article II its up to each state to decide what to do.

This right here will be the only thing that's going to save the Republic, if it gets saved. You know that the Feds are dying to put a stop to the audits, but they are powerless to do so.

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:50 AM (AwPyG)

288 Posted by: Revenant at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (Z7rbj)
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I totally agree with his summation. The last election is over. Prove the fraud now to prevent it in next election.

Posted by: WisRich at June 08, 2021 11:50 AM (G0vdT)

289 It's called steganography.

Or something like that.


I think.


Don't listen to me.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:50 AM (6FeV1)

290 I really think 2022 is going to be lit.
Dems will double down and it will get ugly.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2021 11:50 AM (axyOa)

291 > "Hundreds" of people arrested yesterday thanks to an FBI app that tracked their communications on a "secret" communications network. The BBC article made mention that "royals" were also using it.


Place your bets on which app they were using. I'm guessing it's Signal.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 11:50 AM (YYlyE)

292 One of Obama's Sons struck from behind the head of an old man, knocking him down, caught on video.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 08, 2021 11:50 AM (vWVnN)

293 Are the other stolen states doing any sort of examination, or just AZ and GA?
Posted by: 18-1
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Yes, there is one currently underway in New Hampshire. MI, WI, and PA are talking to AZ about the process and audits are being discussed in those states.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 08, 2021 11:50 AM (5p7BC)

294 81,000,000 votes. Right.

Posted by: Dan at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (+NG5U)

295 It would be entertaining to have a new version of the voting rights act slapped on Georgia, Pennsylvania, and the other bad actors.

Congratulations, you're so corrupt you now get Federal oversight of all your elections, which will be performed rectally without lubricating surfactants.

Oh wait. The Feds would aid and abet them.

Never mind.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (yL25O)

296 There's a 0.00% chance of it happening but Congress can decertify the January 6th count and go recertify using corrected results.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (mht8P)


Technically, I think the odds are a little lower than that.

Posted by: 496 at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (U1eOr)

297
Though I'm sure, if the Party needs a color engine from EFI or CREO without any microdotting, they'll be provided with such. I don't count on their thugs to be that thorough, because it's completely unnecessary to bother hiding what they're doing, but I'm sure it could be arranged.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (yFG1M)

298 We, and what's left of America, need a leader who is able to organize direction action.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 08, 2021 11:38 AM (XvPQV)


We, miraculously, got a charismatic leader in Trump. His ability to organize and direct action was sorely lacking.


Can we get one both of those qualities? Lincoln was probably the last one so...

Posted by: TC at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (IOaKQ)

299 "There's no Mechanism for reinstating a president!"

There's no "mechanism" for stealing an election, either, and yet...

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (OssQ4)

300
OK, we cheated in Arizona and Georgia. But that's it!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (mht8P)

301 People thinking there will be reforms etc due to this stuff coming out, ask yourself what has been repaired or reformed since a Chinese bio-weapon was unleashed on the world?

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (H+S8x)

302 My take - McConnell and co were consulted on the steal and went along with it. Likely he was promised they would only take the presidency and leave him with control of the senate - winning via clear fraud in the run-offs was a Clintonian word smithing to "keep" their promises.

At this point the left believes it is mostly over though - which is why they aren't fighting as hard as they did closer to the election. Remember when they arrested the woman that made the video about the color revolutions?
They expect to play whatever comes out of AZ and GA analysis as "old news, mistakes were made, too bad so sad...but ORANGEMAN REALLY BAD".


Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (DpkTQ)

303 think about it, the US doesn't have a duly elected president anymore. who's actually in charge? who does the military answer to?
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (8D42x)

This is a junta. The military has already chosen a side. It doesn't appear to be the same one I'm on
Posted by: banana Dream at June 08, 2021 11:37 AM (1ln8o)

you're not wrong, but i'm not sure the military has explicitly chosen. sure, they're following orders, but there's a fig leaf of believability to the election. if you do't look hard or ask any questions.

but what happens when 3 states explicitly show that the votes were fake and President Trump actually DID win them? how does it go once it becomes ovbious, in a "no way to deny " fashion that biden did NOT win the election.

that is when interesting times really hit...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (8D42x)

304 The state level GOP greatly underestimated the anger from their own constituents regarding the steal. They went along with it because they thought it would blow over.

It has not.

Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (LvTSG)

Whether or not they thought it'd blow over, what they absolutely counted on was that the people would be powerless to stop them.

And so far, they've been proven correct.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (KbCG3)

305 the Ds seem not to care that when voting stops working, shooting will start working



this is really dangerous
Posted by: will choose a nic later at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (bTQ72)

They keep using a word to describe 01/06/21.

I do not think it means what they think it means.

Posted by: Speed Racer's Banana Hammock at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (+hPIb)

306 "There's no Mechanism for reinstating a president!"

Even though I've found myself repeating it, I'm starting to think this is inserted propaganda. I keep hearing the exact wording repeated over and over.

Posted by: squid_hunt at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (Ectld)

307 steganography

Fat butt pron?

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (vWVnN)

308 The fakes are now allowed to be shown in order to shove them in peoples faces and announce: see, we can cheat and there is nothing you can do about it. We will do this again and again and there is nothing you can do about it.

This is not a hunt for truth, this is a demoralizing strategy to get you to see how all of it is futile and get you to stop voting. The run-off senatorial raves in Georgia ended exactly like that, people gave up.


I can't really see anything to argue against here.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (2JVJo)

309 I'll go to my grave saying 2020 was higher than normal fraud and it probably cost Trump the election.

What I don't believe is that Trump won some comfortable landslide.

I really think the mail in ballots need to get reformed or Republicans are doomed. Or they need to stat cheating like the Dems do (way easier than a bloody revolution)

Posted by: Blago at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (PwNLq)

310 289 It's called steganography.


Or something like that.


I think.


Don't listen to me.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:50 AM (6FeV1)


Steganography is message hidden in an image.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (ynpvh)

311 267 Pennsylvania's, in the end, will be shown to be as corrupt as all the other slimeball SoS.


He fucking guaranteed that Biden would win PA!

he's totally crooked - PA is the MOST CORRUPT STATE IN THE UNION

we're the WORST!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (j9HX3)

312 A few weeks ago a dude (former NASA space station IT guy) on American Family Radio said there is a law or mechanism in place where if fraud were to be shown in large enough samples to overturn the election then it is up to the "elected" to prove they won.

Posted by: Fool Otto at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (DB16e)

313 think about it, the US doesn't have a duly elected president anymore. who's actually in charge? who does the military answer to?
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (8D42x)
++++
Who's in charge? The same people who have been in charge for a very long time: the Party. I don't know who all is in the deep state politburo, but they're still running things.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (Jsjd7)

314 On the donation page for stop the steal is said 60% of the money would be used to pay campaign debts. The rest was grifted Giuliani and his peeps presumably.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (DlG3S)

315 #223 Thanks, Deplorable Jay, that's what I was trying to say but my brain has turned to mush courtesy of Ontario's huge lockdowns.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (UHVv4)

316 300 OK, we cheated in Arizona and Georgia. But that's it!



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (mht8P)


Only the tip! I promise--Dems

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (ynpvh)

317 Okay so two states don't add up to a Trump win, flip one Senate seat in those states of the three contested and Biden doesn't have a Presidency either.

Posted by: White Parasite Uptight Out of Sight at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (xEIoY)

318 We, miraculously, got a charismatic leader in Trump. His ability to organize and direct action was sorely lacking.


Can we get one both of those qualities? Lincoln was probably the last one so...
Posted by: TC at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (IOaKQ)

I think you underestimate the sheer breadth of forces that were lined up against Trump. Look at what he DID get done - and how quickly and easily - and ask yourself who reasonably in his situation could have done more.

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (H+S8x)

319 Cheaters win.
Republicans better learn how to cheat harder.

Posted by: torabora at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (NLAgd)

320 If it's proven that the election was stolen, there should be pressure for Biden/Harris to resign, which would give us President Pelosi...

Not when down-ballot races are looked at, too. Could be a whole new Speaker in there (and you know Trump likes to speak).

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (XHrkn)

321 I'm pretty convinced that the advent of Powell and that other creep Lin Wood as News Stories was enemy action designed to chum the waters.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (6FeV1)

Or.. they were also correct but it was so out there that it will take another few months for anyone to understand the depths of the steal.

Posted by: Inogame at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (53oGX)

322 Holy shit. Somebody leaked the tax returns of America;s richest people. Wow.


https://tinyurl.com/ympp7vzz

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (Zny85)

323 Honestly, every state should be conducting an audit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 08, 2021 11:22 AM (tfgr7)

-------------------

No need, cheating was going on only in states where the Dems had the GOP's blessing. They are the real villains here.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (RMGKK)

324 I don't count on their thugs to be that thorough, because it's
completely unnecessary to bother hiding what they're doing, but I'm sure
it could be arranged.

I presume there was enough comms chatter between the low level thugs that you could get overwhelming evidence just going through election worker texts in the Big Blue cities.

I also presume Israel, at least, has this...which is why Slow Joe has been comparatively muted towards them in their conflict...


Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (DpkTQ)

325
You know what the Fake News and Democrats need right now (besides an fbi-instigated/caused mass shooting)?

They need a mort Jimmy Carter?
Why?
Because it will give them a nice Funeral in which to Not Invite President Trump -- and tell us for a week that President Trump is not invited.


Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 11:54 AM (GfNfN)

326 81,000,000 votes. Right.
Posted by: Dan at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (+NG5U)



Trump got 74,000,000 or so. They found that some of the voting machines actually FLIPPED votes from Trump to Biden.

Biden gets 81,000,000, after all the imported illegal ballots are counted PLUS the flipped votes.

That means TRUMP got a possible 78 to 80,000,000 votes, likely........

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:54 AM (Zz0t1)

327 OK, we cheated in Arizona and Georgia. But that's it!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


And it was the first time we ever done it!

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 11:54 AM (XHrkn)

328 Holy shit. Somebody leaked the tax returns of America;s richest people. Wow.


https://tinyurl.com/ympp7vzz
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (Zny85)


Crap. I hope mine isn't in there.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2021 11:54 AM (guGkK)

329 There's absolutely no way the Donks, who clearly stole the election in broad daylight, didn't then destroy as much evidence as possible immediately afterward.

/Not getting my hopes up here in AZ or elsewhere ...

Posted by: ShainS at June 08, 2021 11:54 AM (CYgrT)

330 There's a 0.00% chance of it happening but Congress can decertify the January 6th count and go recertify using corrected results.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

If one state decertifies, then Congress knowing certified Fraud, which makes them complicit in the Fraud if they keep it. And they will.
National Divorce is the only way.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 08, 2021 11:54 AM (tQJ0o)

331 Only the FBI would set up a secret messaging service, successfully entice a whole lot of bad guys to use it, and then burn the whole operation to the ground the day they make arrests.

They care nothing about the arrests, just for the public perception they are doing something. So to hell with a great, functioning system that would have continued to do a great deal of good with regard to public safety. We have a press release to send!

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2021 11:54 AM (yL25O)

332 We, miraculously, got a charismatic leader in Trump. His ability to organize and direct action was sorely lacking.


Can we get one both of those qualities? Lincoln was probably the last one so...
Posted by: TC at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (IOaKQ)


Well, according to the Dems, Trump was such an effective organizer that he was able to engineer an insurrection and he hadn't even finished speaking. That there is some top drawer organizing!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (axyOa)

333 PA is the MOST CORRUPT STATE IN THE UNION

we're the WORST!
Posted by: BlackOrchid

In all agencies. I'm on year 8 waiting on state/county/boro permissions to allow the (long standing) sale of a particular piece of property.

A small creek runs through it. Nuff' said?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (Rvt88)

334 **but what happens when 3 states explicitly show that the votes were fake and President Trump actually DID win them? how does it go once it becomes ovbious**

STEINER WILL COME!!

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (vWVnN)

335 Because it will give them a nice Funeral in which to Not Invite President Trump -- and tell us for a week that President Trump is not invited.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 11:54 AM (GfNfN)

Walkin' around with your ass-zipper on your front-butt.... We're tryin' to have a decent funeral here, dammit!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (6FeV1)

336 OT but I would just like to remind everyone that the
CDC all causes deaths have been below 105% of expected deaths, which i
believe is below the "pandemic" threshold, since early March. There is
no emergency and all emergency powers should be stripped of every
politician immediately.

Posted by: InCali at June 08, 2021 11:45 AM (ov5G+
There have only been about 2,000 reported flu deaths this winter, which broke the CDC's mechanism for estimating them based on reported data. In a normal winter it's at least 10x that, and sometimes 50x that. There's a good case to be made that many of the deaths attributed to COVID would have occurred anyway.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (BMmaB)

337 Even though I've found myself repeating it, I'm starting to think this is inserted propaganda. I keep hearing the exact wording repeated over and over.
Posted by: squid_hunt at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (Ectld)


Yes, but I think the reason it is repeated is because it is true. And I said this when Obama was President. People were chasing the not qualified because not natural born line and I said it then. It doesn't matter - he was elected President. The only way to remove a President is by impeachment.

Well, I guess the point is that it is the only Constitutional way to do so. Other measures, well...

Posted by: blaster at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (m/zKn)

338 OK, we cheated in Arizona and Georgia. But that's it!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (mht8P)

Old and busted - there is no election fraud!
The current hotness, soon to bust - there was only MINIMAL election fraud!
The next hotness - there was only enough election fraud to change one state!

Posted by: Speed Racer's Banana Hammock at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (+hPIb)

339
I'm already hearing the "we had to do it to save the country" by an alarming number of people re: AZ audit. I think they know this is going to spread to other states.

And you're not fat, it's just those pants.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 08, 2021 11:24 AM (wAnMi)

You heard it from donks, IOW. Destroy the country to save it? I'm not banking on long sentences, we were denied by Barr and Sessions, but a girl can dream.

Posted by: CN at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (ONvIw)

340 And how many Trump votes were either shredded or used to fuel bonfires?

Posted by: ShainS at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (CYgrT)

341 Or.. they were also correct but it was so out there that it will take another few months for anyone to understand the depths of the steal.


yeah I mean with the way the Wuhan story is going right now - I can see this - in a couple months we'll all be saying "hmm Lin Wood undersold this"

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (j9HX3)

342 So are we still waiting on those Frankfurt servers?

Any day now, right?

Posted by: Robert at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (Glcbg)

343 @228

I think the "light boxes" were used to check for fingerprints on mail in ballots. Not only were they not folded, but they had no fingerprints.

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (AwPyG)

344 think about it, the US doesn't have a duly elected president anymore. who's actually in charge? who does the military answer to?
Power flows from the barrel of a gun. Whoever is running the Biden junta has no problem getting the police...the people with guns...to arrest protestors, and turned DC into an armed camp to specifically send that message to the population.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (DpkTQ)

345 Holy shit. Somebody leaked the tax returns of America;s richest people. Wow.

Which is illegal as hell, but when it comes to advancing Marxist policy agendas you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (ZGrMX)

346
I really think 2022 is going to be lit.
Dems will double down and it will get ugly.

Posted by: Diogenes


I concur.
It will make 2020 and 2021 look like the good ol' days.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (GfNfN)

347 The same crescent....

Dont look, Ethel!

Too latte. She done got mooned.

Posted by: Steeling strreak at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (7J3tr)

348 Exactly. If re-examination shows material fraud, that undercuts all of the Democrat bleating that the election was on the up and up. Who knows, we might even get voter ID out of the ensuing uproar.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2021 11:46 AM (YqDXo)

Agreed. It could also change the short-term dynamics in the current House and Senate. If there is a popular perception that the FICUS really is illegitimate in the eyes of the LIVs, that could curb a lot of this legislative overreach. Longer-term, it would be a historical occurrence.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (mdjgu)

349 think about it, the US doesn't have a duly elected president anymore. who's actually in charge? who does the military answer to?

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 08, 2021 11:33 AM (8D42x)

==================
sure we do. State electors were certified by the state legislatures, they met, and they elected Meat Puppet.

The election is genuine, even if fraudulent. Trump is history, at least until 2024 (and probably, imo, even then due to age)

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (Zny85)

350 Holy shit. Somebody leaked the tax returns of America;s richest people. Wow.
https://tinyurl.com/ympp7vzz
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (Zny85)
++++
This is just class envy by rubes who can't have what we have.

Posted by: That troll who always posts about supercars he totally owns at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (Jsjd7)

351 Cynthia McKinney: "Trump won big. He won Black. He won Georgia."
Some politicians, sometimes, tell the truth.

Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (kD3S+)

352 Well gee ma, think they'll ever admit this whole thing is a giant scam?

Posted by: Cringe Biscuit at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (Lozsj)

353 National Divorce is the only way.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 08, 2021 11:54 AM (tQJ0o)


Yes. Other measures.

Posted by: blaster at June 08, 2021 11:57 AM (m/zKn)

354 I think the "light boxes" were used to check for fingerprints on mail in ballots. Not only were they not folded, but they had no fingerprints.
Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (AwPyG)

Everyone was wearing gloves because of COVID. Non-story. NEXT!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:57 AM (6FeV1)

355 We, miraculously, got a charismatic leader in Trump. His ability to organize and direct action was sorely lacking.
Can we get one both of those qualities? Lincoln was probably the last one so...
Posted by: TC at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (IOaKQ)


Well, according to the Dems, Trump was such an effective organizer
that he was able to engineer an insurrection and he hadn't even finished
speaking. That there is some top drawer organizing! Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (axyOa
ahem

Posted by: Ronald Reagan, winner of the Cold War at June 08, 2021 11:57 AM (BMmaB)

356 What I don't believe is that Trump won some comfortable landslide.
--------

Look at the numbers and percentages of the votes they admit he got. It's an ungodly number. 14 million more votes than 2016.

Millions of his votes were disappeared/switched and millions were manufactured for the other guys.

You couldn't find 81 million people to vote for Braindead if you included Canada. It's simple math.

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2021 11:57 AM (H+S8x)

357 > My take - McConnell and co were consulted on the steal and went along with it. Likely he was promised they would only take the presidency and leave him with control of the senate - winning via clear fraud in the run-offs was a Clintonian word smithing to "keep" their promises.

That's been my belief for a while now. I think GOPe went along with it because they were so desperate to get rid of Trump. They were promised their little sinecures and fiefdoms and told that it would be just this once. After the election, we'll definitely not do this again, pinky swear.

GOPe probably assured themselves that the steal wouldn't happen again this way because we'd be done with Covid and we'd go back to regular election processes and regular levels of cheating.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 11:57 AM (YYlyE)

358 The Raffensperger-Kemp Flaming Clown Show unavailable for comment.

But they super-swearsy the Georgia election results are valid, fucking dunces.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 08, 2021 11:57 AM (VpIIl)

359 If it it is a network based copied there could even be a copy of the original ballot in memory.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 08, 2021 11:57 AM (yrol0)

360 If SCOTUS would find all legislation signed by Biden
unconstitutional because he's an illegitimate president, that could be
fun. Of course, all he's really signed as of this point is the covid
relief bill that Nancy held up until after the election. That money's
gone so it wouldn't do anything.
Invalidating his executive orders would be better, I think.
But that would require SCOTUS to do what's right. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 11:41 AM (LvTSG
--

Should read Texas v. White (74 US 700) (186, a post-civil-war decision where one of the parties tried to undo the decision of the Texas state-level confederate government on the grounds that that government was invalid.

"And, yet, it is a historical fact that the government of Texas, then in full control of the State, was its only actual government . . . a de facto government, and its acts, during the period of its existence as such, would be effectual, and in almost all respects, valid. And to some extent, this is true of the actual government of Texas, though unlawful and revolutionary, as to the United States."

Posted by: Revenant at June 08, 2021 11:58 AM (Z7rbj)

361 Look at the numbers and percentages of the votes they admit he got. It's an ungodly number. 14 million more votes than 2016.

This. Trump would've had an actual landslide without the cheating.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2021 11:58 AM (ZGrMX)

362 Balfour, Trump absolutely won in a landslide, put AZ, GA, NV, PA, WI and MI in his column and it was a blowout. And likely had at least 10 million more popular votes.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at June 08, 2021 11:58 AM (xEIoY)

363 PA is the MOST CORRUPT STATE IN THE UNION

we're the WORST!
Posted by: BlackOrchid

Nope, but we could have a Miss Charmless Contest between PA, NJ NY and IL

Posted by: N.J. begs to disagree at June 08, 2021 11:58 AM (k39e/)

364 The election is genuine, even if fraudulent. Trump is history, at least until 2024 (and probably, imo, even then due to age)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (Zny85)

So "Legal, but Illegitimate".

Our problem is with the Electors and those responsible with certification (legislators, basically, right?)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:58 AM (6FeV1)

365 I think you underestimate the sheer breadth of forces that were lined up against Trump. Look at what he DID get done - and how quickly and easily - and ask yourself who reasonably in his situation could have done more.
Posted by: ... at June 08, 2021 11:53 AM (H+S8x)

I believe there are many great leaders out there who could emerge but swimming against the tide of social media and the media in general will make it extremely difficult. Trump got one thing right...go directly to the people. His rallies were Rockstar level awesome. The Dems have nothing to match it. Trump and/or who ever his successors are need to rekindle this.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2021 11:58 AM (axyOa)

366 I agree bonhomme - the GOP were led to think after Trump was out, things would go back to normal

I think they were shocked by that kid getting blown up by the left, and then the GA senate steal. they were blindsided.

now what do they do? apparently the answer is, nothing. they're probably making sure to move money offshore and sprucing up their Cayman estates or something

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (j9HX3)

367 I'd like to be optimistic about this news - but I've been let down so many times before...

It doesn't take a cynic to believe that all of those phoney ballots are gone baby gone - and unless we do a recount AND an examination of the ballots, this effort is a bit futile.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (9V81o)

368 @334

Not to mention that 3 dem senators would lose their seats, too.

Which means all the Biden appointees would have to be re-approved by the Senate.

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (AwPyG)

369 My take - McConnell and co were consulted on the steal and went along with it.


Hell, they weren't consuted, they were all in on it from the beginning. McConnell and Ryan were stunned that Trump won in 2016. The did everything they could to undermine him from that point forward.

Posted by: TC at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (IOaKQ)

370 The people in my circle who are NOT LIVs but are left leaning having been saying things to the effect of, "There was no fraud! But...getting rid of Trump by any means necessary was worth it" since the election.

I think internally they are falling back to an argument that the fraudulent votes were the votes the people oppressed by Trump should have cast if they were just aware of how they were supposed to vote and damn it ORANGEMAN SO BAD that it had to be done that way.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (DpkTQ)

371
I used to think Cynthia McKinney was scum because she opposed bush's stupid wars and was chummy with Assad.

But, right now, McKinney was more right than wrong, and Assad is a better, more honorable person than biden. Much better.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (GfNfN)

372 Did you see a woman tried to stab the LA mayoral candidate at Venice Beach yesterday?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 11:43 AM (BMmaB)

Someone on the blog mentioned it, dunno any details.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (XvPQV)

373 There's no Mechanism for reinstating a president!

...

There's no mechanism for imprisoning trespassers without charging them either but they seem to have made that happen.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (yL25O)

374 Oh please stop with the kookiness. The GOP wasn't in on the steal. It's worse, they are fucking incompetent cowards.

Don't explain with conspiracy that which can be fully attributable to incompetent caitiffs.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (VpIIl)

375 356 You couldn't find 81 million people to vote for Braindead if you included Canada. It's simple math.
Posted by: ... at June 08, 2021 11:57 AM (H+S8x)


You forgot the CCP vote...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (ynpvh)

376 Even though I've found myself repeating it, I'm starting to think this is inserted propaganda. I keep hearing the exact wording repeated over and over.
Posted by: squid_hunt at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (Ectld)

The nation was based on a measure of honesty, but the courts have reinstated people due to wrongful termination and have exacted penalties, stolen property is returned, and again penalties are paid. We have laws against election fraud, so the stolen "property" should be returned and all due penalties exacted.

Posted by: CN at June 08, 2021 12:00 PM (ONvIw)

377 So are we still waiting on those Frankfurt servers?

Any day now, right?
Posted by: Robert at June 08, 2021 11:56 AM (Glcbg)


Was that line of horseshit spread by Brian Cates? That self agrandizing imbecile might claim to be MAGA but NFW is he on my side.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:00 PM (y7DUB)

378
GOPe probably assured themselves that the steal wouldn't happen again this way because we'd be done with Covid and we'd go back to regular election processes and regular levels of cheating.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 11:57 AM (YYlyE)

-------

I think it's similar, but simpler. All of the mail-in measures, etc. were projecting fraud from a mile away, but the GOP said "sure, it's not pretty, but it gets rid of Trump. Any port in a storm. We'll sort out the details later. No need to air our dirty laundry in public."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 08, 2021 12:00 PM (yFG1M)

379 332 We, miraculously, got a charismatic leader in Trump. His ability to organize and direct action was sorely lacking.

Can we get one both of those qualities? Lincoln was probably the last one so...
Posted by: TC at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (IOaKQ)

Well, according to the Dems, Trump was such an effective organizer that he was able to engineer an insurrection and he hadn't even finished speaking. That there is some top drawer organizing!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (axyOa)

DJT, who never ran for anything before he went for the Presidency, was, in spite of perceived flaws, the best politician in my lifetime - head and shoulders above every single professional politico, save Ronaldus Magnus. With the (possible) exception of DeSantis, there is still no living politician that comes close to the talents that Trump brings to the political arena.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 12:00 PM (mdjgu)

380 If I were a Democrat operative I'd be hustling rezident retard out of the White House and over to Shady Acres tonight. Put Harris in ASAP so that when the fraud is exposed the party can claim *biden's no longer president so quit bitching.

It's a hollow argument, but it continues to muddy the waters, perhaps long enough to further consolidate power so in the end it really doesn't matter.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 08, 2021 12:00 PM (3H9h1)

381
That's been my belief for a while now. I think GOPe went along with it because they were so desperate to get rid of Trump. They were promised their little sinecures and fiefdoms and told that it would be just this once. After the election, we'll definitely not do this again, pinky swear.

GOPe probably assured themselves that the steal wouldn't happen again this way because we'd be done with Covid and we'd go back to regular election processes and regular levels of cheating.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 11:57 AM (YYlyE)

Spot on.

I'm not even certain McConnell gave a serious damn about Senate control. He and Biden have been on the take from China so long all that matters to them is the grift.

Mark it: Fox News will NOT cover this.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 08, 2021 12:00 PM (puu6v)

382
White paper is racist.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)


White-Out doesn't actually get the white out.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 08, 2021 12:00 PM (63Dwl)

383 322 Did you ctl f for Moo Moo or raykon?

Posted by: Bete at June 08, 2021 12:00 PM (Ojki1)

384 One could never confuse Charlotte McKinney with Cynthia McKinney. One posed nude in a Carl's Jr ad, the other looks like she ate an entire Carl's Jr franchise.

Posted by: Cringe Biscuit at June 08, 2021 12:00 PM (Lozsj)

385 I want to see everyone who engaged in fraud punished, severely enough to make not only them, but everyone who sees the punishment, very afraid to ever do it again.

I don't mean just the people "in charge", but all the way down to the lowly workers tearing up ballots on TikTok, the men putting cardboard over windows, and the fat-bottomed women who fill every frame of every video of election "workers" ever recorded.

Until people are seriously afraid to cheat, they will continue to cheat. Gallows were a great deterrent to would-be horse thieves. "I want that horse, but... Nah."

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 08, 2021 12:00 PM (OssQ4)

386 Our problem is with the Electors and those responsible with certification (legislators, basically, right?)

Posted by: Warai-otoko

If I tried to print the list of everyone responsible, the blog would break.
Not that it doesn't break on the regular for smaller reasons, but it's a long list.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: No Blood for Congress! at June 08, 2021 12:00 PM (OUMaO)

387 It doesn't take a cynic to believe that all of those phoney ballots are gone baby gone - and unless we do a recount AND an examination of the ballots, this effort is a bit futile.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (9V81o)

...

Maybe the image scans are retrievable though. And would show the similarity of image, lack of crease, etc.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2021 12:01 PM (yL25O)

388 81,000,000 votes. Right.
Posted by: Dan at June 08, 2021 11:51 AM (+NG5U)
.......

That's a whole lot of Xerox paper. I hope they got a discount at Staples.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2021 12:01 PM (v0R5T)

389 > Holy shit. Somebody leaked the tax returns of America;s richest people. Wow.

This is probably blowback from that Treasury official getting six months in the slammer for leaking Trump's tax returns.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 12:01 PM (YYlyE)

390 Somewhere, someone, has decided to keep the emails for posterity. This was a coordinated coup, and there are many thousands very involved.

Posted by: CN at June 08, 2021 12:01 PM (ONvIw)

391 Proving the fraud now is like a road map for places that didn't fraud.

They're not going to stop. Secret ballot will be next on the chopping block. Vote the wrong party.... The your boss fires you, your landlord evicts you, your grocer won't sell you food. DMV will refuse your registration. Courts won't hear your lawsuits. Cops will beat you with impunity.

All because you won't vote correctly.

Posted by: torabora at June 08, 2021 12:01 PM (NLAgd)

392
biden got about 60-62 million legit votes.

He lost big.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 12:01 PM (GfNfN)

393 So- Trump wins Georgia, Arizona, more than likely Pennsylvania, and possibly et al?

How soon before Fakebook and the Twitidiots allow election fraud to be mentioned along with the Wuhan Flu Lab Leak?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 08, 2021 12:02 PM (VpIIl)

394 So are we still waiting on those Frankfurt servers?
That was the damnedest thing...because Haspel could have dispelled the whole story by doing a fluff interview about literally anything after that story/hoax/whatever got traction.
And...she didn't. And then she retired. And has not been seen in public since...AFAIK.
Which makes me think it was actually an intentionally planted false story...if it wasn't true she had a moral obligation to disprove it...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 12:02 PM (DpkTQ)

395
the Rs did almost nothing about 2020, the statistical impossibilities, the GA viseo, the hundreds of people who came forward under oath, the Rs did zero


remember in FL the Ds stopped wanting a recount in S FL when a truck full of ballots was intercepted with fake votes in N FL

Posted by: will choose a nic later at June 08, 2021 12:02 PM (bTQ72)

396
California, alone, padded biden's vote total by at least 8 million votes.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 12:02 PM (GfNfN)

397 If one state decertifies, then Congress knowing certified Fraud, which makes them complicit in the Fraud if they keep it. And they will.
National Divorce is the only way.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 08, 2021 11:54 AM (tQJ0o)
-----
Respectfully disagree. If states certified fraud at the time (and many knowingly did), that's on them -- NOT Congress.

Ultimately though, it was Trump's three SCOTUS picks that finally put a stake in the heart of the Constitution and the nation ...

Posted by: ShainS at June 08, 2021 12:02 PM (CYgrT)

398 The GOP ham and eggers went along with the fraud because most of them have knowingly benefited from fraud at some point in their career. That's just logic.

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2021 12:02 PM (H+S8x)

399 biden got about 60-62 million legit votes.


sooth I estimate that Biden got 45 mil

max

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2021 12:03 PM (j9HX3)

400 392
biden got about 60-62 million legit votes.

He lost big.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 12:01 PM (GfNfN)

Yup, Trump got MORE votes than any other presidential election in history.... but lost?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2021 12:03 PM (oHd/0)

401 Mike Pence, pick up the white courtesy phone, you simp.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 08, 2021 12:03 PM (VpIIl)

402 Notice that a cascade of info today is on the heels of Mike Flynn posting that Trump "the gloves are off" video yesterday.

We can only hope. And we can wonder what took so long.

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 12:03 PM (AwPyG)

403 I mentioned on social media that these ballots were possibly Xerox'd. But then some hippie said "No they weren't, dummy!" so there goes that theory.

Posted by: CrustyB at June 08, 2021 12:03 PM (qXzGC)

404 First, prove election fraud.

Second, total do-over undoing thing.

Third, total victory over all gods and monsters.

Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE RACHEL MADCOW at June 08, 2021 12:03 PM (QU5/8)

405 Cheaters win.
Republicans better learn how to cheat harder.
Posted by: torabora

You're not allowed to cheat. We are.

--Democrats

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 08, 2021 12:03 PM (OssQ4)

406 396 California, alone, padded biden's vote total by at least 8 million votes.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 12:02 PM (GfNfN)

Cali voter laws BLESS voter fraud by the collection of ballots that is allowed.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (ynpvh)

407 So my guess is the Senate race in GA was fixed too.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (yrol0)

408 There have only been about 2,000 reported flu deaths this winter, which broke the CDC's mechanism for estimating them based on reported data. In a normal winter it's at least 10x that, and sometimes 50x that. There's a good case to be made that many of the deaths attributed to COVID would have occurred anyway.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (BMmaB)

He'll even in states like New York and Michigan you can probably argue that the people that died in the nursing homes weren't likely long for this world. And you can sort of see that in the comparison to other states. New York and Michigan just front loaded their dead while other states had a more steady rate. A different cold or the flu might have gotten them. Or just their age and their body finally giving out. But of course with all that being said: just because someone is going to pass away in a month or two doesn't mean you get to slit their throats today like Cuomo, Whitmer, and the others did.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (G2zl5)

409 215 -- One dot, Vasily. One dot only.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (/7+9I)

410 Biden/HeelsUp should be removed ... and no, that
cannot mean President Pelosi. There has to be a new "mechanism" to
confront the Coup/Junta (and all its underwriters). American Ingenuity
can arrive at some better conclusion than surrender to evil.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (Cus5s


It's simple. The proven fraud surrounds the presidential election.

Re-do it.

Posted by: creeper at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (XxJt1)

411 393 So- Trump wins Georgia, Arizona, more than likely Pennsylvania, and possibly et al?

How soon before Fakebook and the Twitidiots allow election fraud to be mentioned along with the Wuhan Flu Lab Leak?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 08, 2021 12:02 PM (VpIIl)

Nevada as well... lots of hinky votes there.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (oHd/0)

412 Why pray tell have we not gotten one of those full demographic breakdowns we usually get after every election, hmmm?


That because the numbers simply wouldn't add up.

------------------

I noted that some time ago. If the election was on the up and up they would have shown the world the demo breakdowns and crowed about it.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (RMGKK)

413 399 sooth I estimate that Biden got 45 mil


max
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2021 12:03 PM (j9HX3)


I'm sure the "big guy" got more than that from China and Ukraine...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (ynpvh)

414 > Oh please stop with the kookiness. The GOP wasn't in on the steal. It's worse, they are fucking incompetent cowards.

Eh, I don't think that explains the GOP SecStates that were so eager to certify and were completely against any examination of the ballots.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (YYlyE)

415 387 It doesn't take a cynic to believe that all of those phoney ballots are gone baby gone - and unless we do a recount AND an examination of the ballots, this effort is a bit futile.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (9V81o)

If they're gone, then they can't be counted as Biden votes on an audit and recount. Not a problem.

Posted by: CN at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (ONvIw)

416 I know no one that voted for the meat puppet that didn't also vote for Hillary.
I do know people that voted for Hillary that then voted for Trump in 2020.

And yet supposedly the meat puppet got 16 million more votes then Hillary...all of it basically coming out of a few big blue shitholes where apparently 100% of the population voted for him.


Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 12:05 PM (DpkTQ)

417 You're not allowed to cheat. We are.
--Democrats
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 08, 2021 12:03 PM (OssQ4)
++++
See also: violence, fraud, theft, robbery, ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:05 PM (Jsjd7)

418 I really think the mail in ballots need to get reformed or Republicans are doomed.
__________

There's no way to reform mail-in ballots to make them cheat-proof.

Decades ago, Jimmy Carter's commission on voting published a report concluding that mail-in voting was the type of voting most susceptible to fraud -- and the Dims have been pushing hard to make all voting mail-in voting ever since.

Some European countries don't allow mail-in voting, because it is so susceptible to fraud.

And yet, the Dims here insist that mail-in voting is a fundamental constitutional right, and that it is raaaaaacist to oppose it.

And we all know why they want it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 08, 2021 12:05 PM (k4dH2)

419 Oh please stop with the kookiness. The GOP wasn't in on the steal. It's worse, they are fucking incompetent cowards.

Don't explain with conspiracy that which can be fully attributable to incompetent caitiffs.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 08, 2021 11:59 AM (VpIIl)


I'm honestly not sure if they knew ahead of time or not, but they have to know privately that Biden cheated.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 08, 2021 12:05 PM (v0j2C)

420 Trump won every reelection bellwether, and still lost. That's never been done, and yet it was done by a guy who can't finish two sentences without dissembling, has oatmeal drips on his chin and piss stains on his trousers. Sure, he did.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 08, 2021 12:05 PM (VpIIl)

421 ...but what if we don't *WANT* to lead?

- Republicans in Congress

Posted by: Speed Racer's Banana Hammock at June 08, 2021 12:05 PM (+hPIb)

422 PC Load Letter? What the fuck is that?!?

Posted by: Non no talent ass clown Michal Bolton at June 08, 2021 12:06 PM (ufFY8)

423 406 396 California, alone, padded biden's vote total by at least 8 million votes.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 12:02 PM (GfNfN)

Cali voter laws BLESS voter fraud by the collection of ballots that is allowed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (ynpvh)

But the strange part? Calif, even with EVERYONE being sent a mail in ballot, only had a 56% voter turnout.

These places that had 90% or even above 100%? REALLY?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2021 12:06 PM (oHd/0)

424 Eh, I don't think that explains the GOP SecStates that were so eager to certify and were completely against any examination of the ballots.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (YYlyE)

They were totally in on it, and shows that they can be competent when there's money and power involved.

Posted by: CN at June 08, 2021 12:06 PM (ONvIw)

425 Crap. I hope mine isn't in there.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2021 11:54 AM (guGkK)

If it is could you please consider a donation to the church I serve? We need to have the facility to do live streaming.

Posted by: N.J. begs to disagree at June 08, 2021 12:06 PM (k39e/)

426
President Trump won FL, MO, and OH by a big margin.

Then...

the counting stopped.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 12:06 PM (GfNfN)

427 295
Congratulations, you're so corrupt you now get Federal oversight of all your elections,
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So take a plan from the Dem playbook and cut the Feds out:
1)Decide that the solution to all life's ills is to ship ghetto residents into the nice part of town.
2)File suit in front of a friendly judge claiming 'racism' or whatever fake excuse you want against the government entity, in this case a school district.
3)Get 'The opposition' (in this case, your co-conspirator on the other side who want's the same thing you do without pesky laws getting involved) to agree to a 'consent decree' allowing the judge to permanently monitor your activity for compliance with their whims and wishes.
4) School bussing now exists draining millions from the city coffers , clogging the cities roads, and destroying the value of education without the people ever getting a say in it or being able to change it.

Go to PA and WI and MI, file suit against the fraud before an actual conservative judge, consent it with a friendly prosecutor and enforce common sense election laws without pesky Fed or legislative interference. EasyPeasy Japanesey

Posted by: common sense at June 08, 2021 12:06 PM (m9Z12)

428 I'm pretty convinced that the advent of Powell and that other creep Lin Wood as News Stories was enemy action designed to chum the waters.

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Those two delegitimized a serous look at fraud imo.

I've heard the theory that it was intentional, as in they were part of the steal.

My read is it's just two nuts, it doesn't help though that Trump was retweeting their shit. Trump just had terrible people around him and no real legal strategy.

Posted by: Blago at June 08, 2021 12:06 PM (PwNLq)

429 What I would love, much like the AZ audit, is some some state to be able to say out loud "Trump won this state, not Biden".
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 08, 2021 11:31 AM (5p7BC)

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They could and it would still not be reported in the MSM and therefore it didn't happen.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2021 12:06 PM (RMGKK)

430 >So are we still waiting on those Frankfurt servers?

Any day now, right?
Posted by: Robert



mustard and relish on mine
UTAH! Bring me two.

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 08, 2021 12:06 PM (iTXRQ)

431 Oops! N.J. sock off.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2021 12:06 PM (k39e/)

432 Study Finds LeBron James Most Hated Player in the NBA
... no kidding

Posted by: SMOD at June 08, 2021 12:07 PM (RHGPo)

433 418 I really think the mail in ballots need to get reformed or Republicans are doomed.

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There's no way to reform mail-in ballots to make them cheat-proof.


Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 08, 2021 12:05 PM (k4dH2)

Sure there is. Every voter sacrifices a finger and mails it in with their ballot. Secretaries of State have fingerprints on file. Only allowed to vote in no more than 10 elections...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:07 PM (ynpvh)

434 TBH Biden got WAAAAY too many votes in Texas. I suspect some shenanigans here too. Thankfully Trump won.

I guess my question is, if there was cheating, was this a concerted effort across many states or was it just rogue Demo miscreants each acting alone? Hmmmm.

Posted by: Sphynx at June 08, 2021 12:07 PM (rXie1)

435 Why pray tell have we not gotten one of those full demographic breakdowns we usually get after every election, hmmm?
The NYT was doing that live at the start of the election. It showed Trumps numbers up by a lot with every leftwing demographic and very, very slightly below 2016 numbers among wealthy, older white voters.

So if you believe the data that was presented to us, Trump won over large numbers of traditional Dem voters in the 'burbs and smaller cities, but managed to turn every eligible voter against him in the small number of heavily populated big blue shitholes.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 12:07 PM (DpkTQ)

436 I noted that some time ago. If the election was on the up and up they would have shown the world the demo breakdowns and crowed about it.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (RMGKK)

We also need to compare voting results, to the last Census data.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2021 12:07 PM (oHd/0)

437 Posted by: Dr. T at June 08, 2021 11:48 AM (Vgw1E)

Also important in Arizona and, probably less so but not *un*important in New Mexico, is the Navajo tribe officially endorsing Trump for 2020. Which was their first presidential endorsement ever.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 08, 2021 12:08 PM (1lKRm)

438 I have it on good authority that this pretty girl had absolutely nothing to do with widespread election fraud or anything else even possibly or tangentially related to laser printers:
https://is.gd/WiZmuM

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:08 PM (Jsjd7)

439 Recovery Summer 17.

It's safer here.

Posted by: Dr. Breen at June 08, 2021 12:08 PM (X5o16)

440 "I'm honestly not sure if they knew ahead of time or not, but they have to know privately that Biden cheated.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 08, 2021 12:05 PM (v0j2C)"
There is no evidence to suggest they knew ahead of time. However, everyone was talking about the potential for fraud with mail-in ballots. They knew the risks. Yet when the election was over and things were being questioned, most Republicans did zero. They breathed a sign of relief when the elections were certified, because they are apathetic, careless, cowards and assholes.
I await them starting to speak up on everything being uncovered, instead of hiding behind their mommies skirts.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 08, 2021 12:08 PM (VpIIl)

441 The swing states Trump won comfortably like Florida, Ohio, Iowa, etc don't diverge so far from the states he supposedly lost.

All the states he lost narrowly had Dems controlling the voting process, not surprisingly.

The Supreme Court should wrangle in early voting and mail in ballots if they want to save the Republic. I'm not holding my breath, they are more afraid of getting booed at a Commencement address than the country dissolving.

Posted by: Blago at June 08, 2021 12:08 PM (PwNLq)

442 > I'm pretty convinced that the advent of Powell and that other creep Lin Wood as News Stories was enemy action designed to chum the waters.

My read is that Wood is a grifter and Powell was completely out of her depth.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (YYlyE)

443
Oh please stop with the kookiness. The GOP wasn't in on the steal. It's worse, they are fucking incompetent cowards.

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Basically similar to what I'm saying here. It's not as if the Dems made *any* attempt to hide the massive fraud. They basically telegraphed it as soon as COVID gave them their fig-leaf.

The GOP ignored it and did nothing *because they wanted Biden to win.*

They didn't need to be "in on" it. Just to stand aside. Which they dutifully did.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (yFG1M)

444 Ok. I asked this question previous thread. Is there a right to vote in the constitution?

Leftists in my neck of the woods are claiming that it is in the 15th amendment. Why? Because they argue, if we can demand registration and identification to vote so can we do that for guns. They are pushing their universal background checks and registration.

But I cannot find a definitive source that there is a right to vote or not in the constitution.
Posted by: Floridachick at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (DnWIB)

Article 4 Section 4 - The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion;

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (eoQWY)

445
Massive "ballot harvesting" in Texas.

Not only were Democrats doing it, but Fake Republicans were ballot harvesting for Democrats in Texas.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (GfNfN)

446 @367

In a strange way, I'm optimistic for the opposite reason. Were the ballots destroyed? Who's to say? and who's to say the white hats aren't conducting kabuki theatre rigtht now, with their own made-up ballots in the "audit"?

It just seems like there is stronger and stronger evidence all the time that there ARE white hats, and that they do have a plan that is unfolding.

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (AwPyG)

447 Also important in Arizona and, probably less so but not *un*important in New Mexico, is the Navajo tribe officially endorsing Trump for 2020. Which was their first presidential endorsement ever.

Trump is so bad at being a racist that only highly trained Democrats can tell he's supposed to be one.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (ZGrMX)

448 432 Study Finds LeBron James Most Hated Player in the NBA
... no kidding
Posted by: SMOD at June 08, 2021 12:07 PM (RHGPo)
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79 PAPER JAM
Posted by: wth at June 08, 2021 11:29 AM (v0R5T)
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LeBron's new movie?

Posted by: zmdavid at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (xqRaG)

449 423 406 396 California, alone, padded biden's vote total by at least 8 million votes.Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 12:02 PM (GfNfN)
Cali voter laws BLESS voter fraud by the collection of ballots that is allowed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (ynpvh)
But the strange part? Calif, even with EVERYONE being sent a mail in ballot, only had a 56% voter turnout.These places that had 90% or even above 100%? REALLY?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2021 12:06 PM (oHd/0)

Especially when some of those places had more than 100% voter registration rates...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (ynpvh)

450 Biden had over 95,000 ballots with NO down voting. PDT had 818.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (yrol0)

451 If I was to pay a hobo, say, ten dollars for his or her signed nad otherwise completed mail-in vote, then I checked the box for Puddinghead and mailed it in, how would I get caught? Can't get caught in an election audit, can it?

Asking because I have reason to believe this was going on in my county.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 08, 2021 12:10 PM (Bmy3R)

452 This is not a hunt for truth, this is a demoralizing strategy to get you to see how all of it is futile and get you to stop voting. The run-off senatorial raves in Georgia ended exactly like that, people gave up.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2021 11:49 AM (RMGKK)

That might be true for an unarmed citizenry. For an armed citizenry, it might be seen as motivation.

Posted by: InCali at June 08, 2021 12:10 PM (ov5G+)

453 Don't hate the system. The system works! And you have our card...

Posted by: Kinko's Election Services at June 08, 2021 12:10 PM (OFJlJ)

454 The next argument will involve that since the copies were made with Rikoh copiers and the alleged Xerox copiers, there's no standing for the falsified ballots. The defendant clearly indicated they were only concerned with Xerox brand toner and Rikoh toner is not an issue.

Posted by: Darury at June 08, 2021 12:10 PM (wIlfD)

455 Corrective Action ... should not be dismissed just yet (whether that is Trump installed or whatever). First we "convict them" of their crime ... Then as public mood is changing *and great pressure on the DC criminal cabal), then is the time to look at the Remedy.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 08, 2021 12:10 PM (Cus5s)

456 TBH Biden got WAAAAY too many votes in Texas. I suspect some shenanigans here too. Thankfully Trump won.

I guess my question is, if there was cheating, was this a concerted effort across many states or was it just rogue Demo miscreants each acting alone? Hmmmm.
Posted by: Sphynx

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Dems always know what to do, but I do suspect some down engineering.

I know a guy that's pretty apolitical and he had some neighbors move in a short time before the election, said he was paid to move here temporarily and turn the state "blue" for the election.

I really think we have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, the Left has so much more in resources than we do.

Posted by: Blago at June 08, 2021 12:10 PM (PwNLq)

457 Balfour, Trump absolutely won in a landslide, put AZ, GA, NV, PA, WI and MI in his column and it was a blowout. And likely had at least 10 million more popular votes.
Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks

If he had won, he would be in the White House doing what he ran on in 2015 and 2016.
Winners take the win (take power). That's how you win. Winners don't bitch and complain and raise money off of its was unfair and my enemy broke the rules.
Zero excuse. The SOB had 200 million Americans behind him and he punted and deferred to Jared's advice.
He is still out there making promises and leaking promises of Ill be back while Jared and Ivanka whispers in his ear that we need more BIPOC and trannies and moar women. He gives the finger to his supports while sucking off people who hate him and hates Americans. I'm looking at actions not words.
Orange Cassidy puts up more of a fight ffs.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (tQJ0o)

458
There was a Fake Republican running for election in Texas, a straw candidate, who hired a fraudster who went around to old people and "helped" them fill out their ballots...for Democrats.

They got "caught." There's a video. But nothing happened to them.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (GfNfN)

459 >I guess my question is, if there was cheating, was this a concerted effort across many states or was it just rogue Demo miscreants each acting alone? Hmmmm.
Posted by: Sphynx


well, the Democrat Party is like a terrorist organization- many independent cells, but they all know exactly what to do, and when, and how

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (iTXRQ)

460 This just IN - Election Ballots Found Hanging in their cell from noose fashioned from bedsheet.


Seriously, there's going to be a fire or something. Mere coincidence. Nothing to see here.

Posted by: simplemind at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (roIv0)

461 That Kraken didn't go far either.

Posted by: torabora at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (NLAgd)

462 @442

I may have to disagree about Powell, mainly because if she is writing her legal briefs (which are available to the public) she is one very smart lady

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (AwPyG)

463 Eh, I don't think that explains the GOP SecStates that were so eager to certify and were completely against any examination of the ballots.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (YYlyE)


Like all those sob stories about antifa has threatened muh family. You took an oath, Junior, without a muh family clause in it so do your fucking job.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (y7DUB)

464 Ok. I asked this question previous thread. Is there a right to vote in the constitution?
Clearly not. Women weren't allowed until the 19th Amendment passed and they were citizens obviously before then.


Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (DpkTQ)

465 Oh please stop with the kookiness. The GOP wasn't in on the steal. It's worse, they are fucking incompetent cowards.

Eh, I don't think that explains the GOP SecStates that were so eager to certify and were completely against any examination of the ballots.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (YYlyE)

And then the silence of the other GOP at questions about the SecStates....and so on. Few escape the taint of cowardice or collusion.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (eoQWY)

466 444 Ok. I asked this question previous thread. Is there a right to vote in the constitution?

Leftists in my neck of the woods are claiming that it is in the 15th amendment. Why? Because they argue, if we can demand registration and identification to vote so can we do that for guns. They are pushing their universal background checks and registration.

But I cannot find a definitive source that there is a right to vote or not in the constitution.
Posted by: Floridachick at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (DnWIB)

Article 4 Section 4 - The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion;
Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (eoQWY)

Bush V Gore decided there was no Constitutional Right to vote and have that voted counted.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (yrol0)

467 TBH Biden got WAAAAY too many votes in Texas. I suspect some shenanigans here too. Thankfully Trump won.

I guess my question is, if there was cheating, was this a concerted effort across many states or was it just rogue Demo miscreants each acting alone? Hmmmm.
Posted by: Sphynx at June 08, 2021 12:07 PM (rXie1)



Texas blocked dominion machines, so the Texas cheat was limited to those that harvested ballots, one of which was caught by Project Veritas and she was FINALLY arrested.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (Zz0t1)

468 The risible Scott Adams defended the suitcase fiasco by saying it's perfectly explainable. It isn't. It looks damn suspicious to most of us not brain mushed by dope and mushrooms.

Posted by: Cory C at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (y5xjy)

469 My read is that Wood is a grifter and Powell was completely out of her depth.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (YYlyE)
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I think more respectable lawyers were scared off by any means.

Posted by: zmdavid at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (xqRaG)

470 Here's what I find puzzling about this and it makes me suspicious.

I assumed that one of the reasons for all mail-in voting was so that the machinery would have plenty of authentic ballots handy to fill out in a pinch. I thought that this what was happening during the coordinated tabulation stop on election night.

But why Xerox off ballots? Those orchestrating the steal should have had more than enough of the legitimate article because everyone ordered a shit ton of ballots because of the all mail election.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (Jsjd7)

471 I noted that some time ago. If the election was on the up and up they would have shown the world the demo breakdowns and crowed about it.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (RMGKK)

Exactly. Biden's historic win is an amazing political story that somehow remains untold.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (uhPTO)

472 My read is it's just two nuts, it doesn't help though that Trump was retweeting their shit.

Seriously you can't mean St. Powell, releaser of the Kraken?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (3H9h1)

473 Next time we'll make it even more believable.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (VgIeo)

474 That Kraken didn't go far either.
Posted by: torabora at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (NLAgd)



When no court hears the evidence, did the Kraken really happen?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (Zz0t1)

475 Basically similar to what I'm saying here. It's not as if the Dems made *any* attempt to hide the massive fraud. They basically telegraphed it as soon as COVID gave them their fig-leaf.

The GOP ignored it and did nothing *because they wanted Biden to win.*

They didn't need to be "in on" it. Just to stand aside. Which they dutifully did.
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I mostly agree with that assessment.

Dems knew most of the GOP hated Trump and would look the other way "this one time".

Posted by: Blago at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (PwNLq)

476 Leftists in my neck of the woods are claiming that it is in the 15th amendment. Why? Because they argue, if we can demand registration and identification to vote so can we do that for guns. They are pushing their universal background checks and registration.

But I cannot find a definitive source that there is a right to vote or not in the constitution.
Posted by: Floridachick at June 08, 2021 11:35 AM (DnWIB)

Flip the argument on them, and say, OK, we'll gladly trade Background checks and waiting periods on guns, for background checks to vote, oh, and age limits and waiting periods for abortions.

Then watch their heads explode.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (oHd/0)

477 Clearly this was a coordinated effort. The official vote counting stopped in the stolen states at the same time.

All because of a leaky toilet in GA - seriously that's the official answer.


Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (DpkTQ)

478 This just IN - Election Ballots Found Hanging in their cell from noose fashioned from bedsheet.


Seriously, there's going to be a fire or something. Mere coincidence. Nothing to see here.
Posted by: simplemind at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (roIv0)

See also: The Las Vegas shooting evidence

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at June 08, 2021 12:13 PM (XvPQV)

479 391 Proving the fraud now is like a road map for places that didn't fraud.

They're not going to stop. Secret ballot will be next on the chopping block. Vote the wrong party.... The your boss fires you, your landlord evicts you, your grocer won't sell you food. DMV will refuse your registration. Courts won't hear your lawsuits. Cops will beat you with impunity.

All because you won't vote correctly.

Posted by: torabora at June 08, 2021 12:01 PM (NLAgd)
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Nailed it. I've been saying this since The Steal ...

Posted by: ShainS at June 08, 2021 12:13 PM (CYgrT)

480 I'm not even certain McConnell gave a serious damn about Senate control.

...

You're only saying that because other than getting judges through, he blocked pretty much everything that would have mattered to the base legislatively.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2021 12:13 PM (yL25O)

481 18 12 TJM, it's critical that the re-examination of ballots etc finds material fraud (i.e. that changed the outcome). Absolutely central.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2021 11:20 AM (OTzUX)

I don't think so.
With ordinary misconduct, not deliberate fraud, courts have repeatedly said that you need to show enough changed votes to nullify the election.
However, with fraud, it might be you don't need to. It might be that showing there are enough fraudulent ballots that it undermines the appearance of fairness of the election, the election might be set aside.
And this makes sense. If there's co-ordinated fraud, it's not reasonable to expect you would be able to find all fraudulent ballots.

Posted by: Stonn at June 08, 2021 12:13 PM (xP36F)

482
These cocksuckers spend the entire day canvassing neighborhoods registering (stupid) people to vote and then "helping" them fill out their ballots. It's fucking bizarre.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 12:13 PM (GfNfN)

483 @457

Yeah, its hard to figure Trump out.
Rumor on Gab that he wanted a covid's origins committee to investigate funding, etc for the Wuhan lab last year when it broke out, but Larry Kudlow talked him out of it.

along with the Ivanka rumors, it doesn't make sense to me, though; Trump doesn't seem a weak reed who blows with the wind

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 12:13 PM (AwPyG)

484 Honey have you checked our shitter?

https://tinyurl.com/4bfz37x5

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 08, 2021 12:13 PM (yrol0)

485 Sidney Powell isn't dumb but her legal strategy might be not good. I still don't think she'll pay a dime to Dominion.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:13 PM (y7DUB)

486 anybody else notice how chippy obama has been the last couple of days?

nerves getting a workout

Posted by: DanMan at June 08, 2021 12:13 PM (RusNE)

487 Our problem is with the Electors and those responsible with certification (legislators, basically, right?)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 08, 2021 11:58 AM (6FeV1)

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That's how I see it, sure. I suppose Pence and the Senate is also at fault. But our issue is with the weak-assed state legislatures.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 08, 2021 12:14 PM (Zny85)

488 467 TBH Biden got WAAAAY too many votes in Texas. I suspect some shenanigans here too. Thankfully Trump won.


I guess my question is, if there was cheating, was this a concerted
effort across many states or was it just rogue Demo miscreants each
acting alone? Hmmmm.

Posted by: Sphynx at June 08, 2021 12:07 PM (rXie1)


Texas blocked dominion machines, so the Texas cheat was limited to
those that harvested ballots, one of which was caught by Project Veritas
and she was FINALLY arrested.Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (Zz0t1)


There was a plot that was broken up in early 2020 which could have resulted in 500,000+ votes for Biden in the General Election. That would have pushed Texas closer or over to a Biden win.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

489 442 > I'm pretty convinced that the advent of Powell and that other creep Lin Wood as News Stories was enemy action designed to chum the waters.

My read is that Wood is a grifter and Powell was completely out of her depth.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (YYlyE)

You may be right about that. I trust that Powell had the best of intentions, but the problem was too big for someone without deep knowledge of election law. The funny thing is that we haven't heard anything about those Dao Min Yen billion-dollar lawsuits for quite a while.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 12:14 PM (mdjgu)

490 But why Xerox off ballots? Those orchestrating the steal should have had more than enough of the legitimate article because everyone ordered a shit ton of ballots because of the all mail election.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (Jsjd7)

left hand did not know what the right hand was doing.

I submit there were multiple groups trying to just 'barely' steal the election... when all of them succeeded we suddenly had an unrealistic landslide.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2021 12:14 PM (oHd/0)

491 I'm honestly not sure if they knew ahead of time or not, but they have to know privately that Biden cheated.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 08, 2021 12:05 PM (v0j2C)"
There is no evidence to suggest they knew ahead of time. However, everyone was talking about the potential for fraud with mail-in ballots. They knew the risks. Yet when the election was over and things were being questioned, most Republicans did zero. They breathed a sign of relief when the elections were certified, because they are apathetic, careless, cowards and assholes.
I await them starting to speak up on everything being uncovered, instead of hiding behind their mommies skirts.
==
It was a uniparty op.

Makes it much easier to understand the fact that there hasn't been any real opposition. Because their isn't any - except for people. Which they then call an insurrection. And keep them in jail, without bond. Habeas corpus much?

Posted by: simplemind at June 08, 2021 12:14 PM (3ogMa)

492 Kyocera cera, Whatever Will Be, Will Be

Posted by: 2Dogs at June 08, 2021 12:14 PM (2cfUo)

493 @482

SOP in California, and sanctioned by law

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 12:14 PM (AwPyG)

494 left hand did not know what the right hand was doing.

I submit there were multiple groups trying to just 'barely' steal the election... when all of them succeeded we suddenly had an unrealistic landslide.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2021 12:14 PM (oHd/0)
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I hadn't considered that. That's as good an answer as any.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (Jsjd7)

495 "Biden had over 95,000 ballots with NO down voting. PDT had 818."


there are exhibits A through ZZZ on that kind of "circumstantial" evidence that really adds up to ten single smoking guns, imo. But it is hard to pin them down when FBI is (showing themselves to be) a criminal run enterprise, confiscating/destroying evidence -- and MFM playing their part ...

Posted by: illiniwek at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (Cus5s)

496 **but what happens when 3 states explicitly show that the votes were fake and President Trump actually DID win them? how does it go once it becomes ovbious**

STEINER WILL COME!!
Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 08, 2021 11:55 AM (vWVnN)

i'm not suggesting steiner, i'm legit asking. i don't know.

but i'm sure Xi and Putin and the mullahs etc. will use proof of a stolen election to roll over biden more than they currently are.

so i ask again, if the election was stolen, who ends up in charge? some have mentioned the electors are the ones who actually votted, but don't some states have requirements based on the popular vote IN that state? does that impact the equation?

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (8D42x)

497 Trump won and it wasn't even close.

Posted by: Deacon J.J. at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (nKqIo)

498 the right to vote is like the right to bear arms- the founders considered it a given, as a thing that already existed


disclaimer: I am not a Constitutional scholar

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (iTXRQ)

499 I want to see everyone who engaged in fraud
punished, severely enough to make not only them, but everyone who sees
the punishment, very afraid to ever do it again. I don't mean just the people "in charge", but all the way down to
the lowly workers tearing up ballots on TikTok, the men putting
cardboard over windows, and the fat-bottomed women who fill every frame
of every video of election "workers" ever recorded. Until people are seriously afraid to cheat, they will continue to
cheat. Gallows were a great deterrent to would-be horse thieves. "I
want that horse, but... Nah. Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 08, 2021 12:00 PM (OssQ4

@Taq, I think you'll find that certain ethnicities are greatly overrepresented among the perps. That might give even a rational prosecutor pause.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (BMmaB)

500 470 But why Xerox off ballots? Those orchestrating the steal should have had
more than enough of the legitimate article because everyone ordered a
shit ton of ballots because of the all mail election.

xeroxed ballots should have a code printed on them somewhere giving the serial number of the machine that made the copy. be interesting to see if they came from the same machine.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (sGtp+)

501 Clearly this was a coordinated effort. The official vote counting stopped in the stolen states at the same time.

All because of a leaky toilet in GA - seriously that's the official answer.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (DpkTQ)

Of course it was.
By 10 PM Pacific Time, given the votes counted, the precincts remaining, across all the states, it was statistically impossible for Trump to lose. He was winning and winning big.
The Right cannot let this happen again. Even if it takes shutting down the country, it must be stopped and those responsible held accountable. Otherwise, the Republic is dead.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (axyOa)

502 475 Dems knew most of the GOP hated Trump and would look the other way "this one time".
Posted by: Blago at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (PwNLq)

GOP proves again they will whore themselves out, cheap! LESS than the $20 customary in town...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:16 PM (ynpvh)

503 My take - McConnell and co were consulted on the steal and went along with it. Likely he was promised they would only take the presidency and leave him with control of the senate - winning via clear fraud in the run-offs was a Clintonian word smithing to "keep" their promises.

------------------

That is also my take, the steal could not have happened without McConnell's connivance and his name should forever live in infamy.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2021 12:16 PM (RMGKK)

504 As part of his May 21 order, Superior Court Judge Brian Amero requested officials guard the warehouse around the clock until an inspection date can be set. But just eight days later, a breach in security was reported after sheriff's deputies left their post for a couple of hours.

"The front door was [found] unlocked and wide open in violation of the court order," Favorito said.

County officials confirmed that a motion-detection alarm was triggered Saturday, May 29, shortly after the deputies drove away from the building in their patrol cars around 4 p.m. But they said a locked room where the ballots are kept "was never breached or compromised."


Uh huh.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2021 12:16 PM (yQpMk)

505 >so i ask again, if the election was stolen, who ends up in charge?


the people who 'won' (nudge nudge wink wink)--
the only way to undo such a situation would be to get it right 'next time'

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 08, 2021 12:16 PM (iTXRQ)

506
But why Xerox off ballots? Those orchestrating the steal should have had more than enough of the legitimate article because everyone ordered a shit ton of ballots because of the all mail election.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Hence the absurd, ridiculous "81 million votes" for biden, pushing the Vote Total for 2020 +29 million votes from 2016!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 12:16 PM (GfNfN)

507 Did Trump really expect or even truly want to won in 2016?


This is a fascinating question that I think can only be answered by Trump if he chooses to do it.


Once he had the office his actions guided by his instincts were unmatched by any president in my lifetime and I include Reagan in that.


His fatal flaw was his almost complete naivety about the Washington ruling class, which includes the GOP. They rolled him at every point and they don't seem to be satisfied until they put him in prison

Posted by: TC at June 08, 2021 12:16 PM (IOaKQ)

508 The risible Scott Adams defended the suitcase fiasco by saying it's perfectly explainable. It isn't. It looks damn suspicious to most of us not brain mushed by dope and mushrooms.
Posted by: Cory C at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (y5xjy)


The worst thing about the reign of the Golden Scalpweasel was otherwise intelligent people giving Scott Adams an iota of credence.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:17 PM (y7DUB)

509 Another thing on this topic that enrages me, and it has come up before. Ballots are serialized and unique. They are divorced from identifying information (the envelope), but they are unique items. The counting machines should catch duplicate ballot numbers. This is trivially easy to handle. If Ballot # 123456 shows up more than once, then you can do one of three things:
1. Reject the oldest and accept the newest
2. Reject the newest and retain the original only
3. Flag an exception and send it for manual intervention

If they were running off ballots or double-counting (or more) ballots, it shouldn't have worked. Only a deliberately unsecure system - or a system written by total novices - would permit this.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:17 PM (Jsjd7)

510 >>I guess my question is, if there was cheating, was this a concerted effort across many states or was it just rogue Demo miscreants each acting alone? Hmmmm.


--6 states halted counting for the night in unison.
--Zuckerberg coordinated GoTV and other efforts in key swing states.
--Marc Elias (DNC's Perkins Coie superlawyer) going to numerous states to change the legislated voting rules to allow voting fraud, such as mail-in ballots.

Yes, very coordinated, and the perpetrators admitted as much with that TIME article a few months back.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2021 12:17 PM (bDqIh)

511 497 Trump won and it wasn't even close.
Posted by: Deacon J.J. at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (nKqIo)


This is correct.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 08, 2021 12:17 PM (o2MD2)

512 486 anybody else notice how chippy obama has been the last couple of days?
can honestly say that i've not paid any attention to him since he left office.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at June 08, 2021 12:17 PM (v3pYe)

513 I don't want a leader who desires to be loved above all else. I want and we need one that desires to be feared above all else and let the love come from that.
I'm not to keen on plan trusting when white genocide has been on the menu and it's accelerating everyday. Hell, the country has been gone.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 08, 2021 12:17 PM (tQJ0o)

514 I just can't see how they double down after that, not without shooting.
Posted by: Inogame at June 08, 2021 11:25 AM (53oGX)

The people using Biden as a figurehead would have no problems resorting to violence, none. The officer corps of all branches of our military are being purged of potential 'insurrectionists' as I write this. Whatever measures they take will be justified as necessary to protect 'our democracy'.

The Civil War was a cataclysmic bloodbath. I can only imagine what a second would be like. Pray to God we never find out.

Posted by: troyriser at June 08, 2021 12:17 PM (pYLCQ)

515 well, the Democrat Party is like a terrorist organization- many independent cells, but they all know exactly what to do, and when, and how
Posted by: DB- just DB at June 08, 2021 12:11 PM (iTXRQ)

...

You don't need a conspiracy when there are just a ton of like-minded actors.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 08, 2021 12:17 PM (yL25O)

516 494 left hand did not know what the right hand was doing.

I submit there were multiple groups trying to just 'barely' steal the election... when all of them succeeded we suddenly had an unrealistic landslide.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2021 12:14 PM (oHd/0)
++++
I hadn't considered that. That's as good an answer as any.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (Jsjd7)

I think that the Molly Ball TIME magazine report indicates that this was probably the case. I'll say, though, that the Trump rally in Butler PA the weekend before Election Day put the scare into everyone. That was probably the first indication that their best laid plans may not be good enough. That's when they sloppily rushed the steal, hoping that the lawyers would scare off examination after the fact.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (mdjgu)

517 xeroxed ballots should have a code printed on them somewhere giving the serial number of the machine that made the copy. be interesting to see if they came from the same machine.
Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (sGtp+)



Aroo? I've never seen such a thing. Is it visible?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (yQpMk)

518
xeroxed ballots should have a code printed on them somewhere giving the serial number of the machine that made the copy. be interesting to see if they came from the same machine.
Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (sGtp+)

If they all had the same printing artefact, it's a distinct possibility - a hole in the transfer belt. Though, even that would likely change over the run. I'd like to have a look at them myself, honestly. If the error is truly identical, then they probably started with an original that had that error by hand, and then ran it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (yFG1M)

519 But why Xerox off ballots? Those orchestrating the steal should have had more than enough of the legitimate article because everyone ordered a shit ton of ballots because of the all mail election.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (Jsjd7)


To obviate the need to fill in - by hand - thousands of fraudulent ballots, which would necessitate either 1) a long time, or 2) a lot of co-conspirators, either one of which would endanger security.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (YqDXo)

520 407 So my guess is the Senate race in GA was fixed too.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (yrol0)

Purdue barely lost the outright election... he could have demanded a recount... but didn't

Posted by: Inogame at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (53oGX)

521
Do you all realize that an increase of 29 million votes cast is outrageously unrealistic?

Also: President Trump had a 50% Approval Rating on election day!!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (GfNfN)

522 495 "Biden had over 95,000 ballots with NO down voting. PDT had 818."





there are exhibits A through ZZZ on that kind of "circumstantial"
evidence that really adds up to ten single smoking guns, imo. But it is
hard to pin them down when FBI is (showing themselves to be) a criminal
run enterprise, confiscating/destroying evidence -- and MFM playing
their part ...

Posted by: illiniwek at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (Cus5s)

Not sure how big a ZZZ is...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (ynpvh)

523 so i ask again, if the election was stolen, who ends
up in charge? some have mentioned the electors are the ones who
actually votted, but don't some states have requirements based on the
popular vote IN that state? does that impact the equation? Posted by: SturmToddler at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (8D42x

See No. 124. Biden is the President, at least until Harris takes over. The Constitution was followed. As @Huck Follywood and I think someone else pointed out, the Constitution doesn't guarantee that all the states run non-fraudulent processes. It just requires that the state legislatures appoint electors, and that the electors vote. It's done.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (BMmaB)

524 @475

And don't forget that it all seemed to trigger on Fox News calling of AZ for Biden immediately as the polls closed, even though it was a bizarre thing to do. That's when the suspect states "closed" for various reasons, and started the shenanigans

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (AwPyG)

525 Biden gets 81,000,000, after all the imported illegal ballots are counted PLUS the flipped votes.

That means TRUMP got a possible 78 to 80,000,000 votes, likely........
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 11:54 AM (Zz0t1)

------------------

And it was one mighty landslide. There is nothing in the world that would convince me that Biden won after the yuge Trump rallies all across the land while Biden couldn't fill a car park.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (RMGKK)

526 call it what it was and is, an insurrection to impose tyranny. and there is a fucking mechanism for that.

Posted by: x4 at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (oA+QO)

527 but what happens when 3 states explicitly show that the votes were fake
and President Trump actually DID win them? how does it go once it
becomes ovbious

Probably nothing. The Rs might try to impeach the meat puppet and Kamel-toe if we put enough pressure on them...but it will be intentional failure theater since none of the Dems would vote for it, even if they could get a vote scheduled.

And the official argument from the Dems will be something like, those states are racists, doesn't change the final results, and finally ORANGEMANBAD.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (DpkTQ)

528 That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


how do you do any of this without voting?

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (iTXRQ)

529 along with the Ivanka rumors, it doesn't make sense to me, though; Trump doesn't seem a weak reed who blows with the wind
Posted by: artemis


I think Trump makes decisions on whoever he talks to last.

I still love him, but his biggest weakness was who he surrounded himself with.

Posted by: Blago at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (PwNLq)

530 Also re: coordination, if you step back and look at what happened in the year leading up to election day through to Biden's inauguration, it was a color revolution.

Darren Beattie at Revolver.com documented this with via numerous articles.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (bDqIh)

531 Because it is impossible to 'certify' fraud as legitimate, it doesn't matter if the left says the election was certified. If the wrong Electoral College slate was advanced due to fraud their votes are forfeit. This idea that the Constitution is 'silent' on the matter is a BS argument.

If enough fraudulent votes are found to swing the election in enough states Biden and Harris cannot stay in office. This does not automatically mean Trump becomes POTUS again, IMHO. Technically Pelosi would be, until it gets sorted out.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado - Tempus belli) at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (N3El/)

532 What good does this do now? We can't get rid of Biden, if we impeach him we get Veep Throat, which is hardly an improvement. And the GOP has proved they will collapse like wet kleenex instead of defending us, how can this help?

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (GZ/yK)

533 There was a plot that was broken up in early 2020 which could have resulted in 500,000+ votes for Biden in the General Election. That would have pushed Texas closer or over to a Biden win.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

If I remember the story that a dude had a way to collect 500k mail in ballots. He had somehow created a dbase of registered but never voted voters.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (yrol0)

534 OT, but the "Before I Go" banner about arranging one's affairs reminds me of a large manila envelope my mother kept with all of her important documents in it. She had labeled the envelope "If I die"


I always loved the optimism inherent in that little word "if" in the title.

Posted by: 496 at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (U1eOr)

535 the only way to undo such a situation would be to get it right 'next time'
Posted by: DB- just DB at June 08, 2021 12:16 PM (iTXRQ)

==================

Incorrect

Posted by: The Founding Fathers at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (prSvo)

536 200 And fired out of a Cannon.
(or have we already done that one?)

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2021 11:42 AM (m+jkK)


That idea is Okidata by me.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (DTX3h)

537 I think that the Molly Ball TIME magazine report indicates that this was probably the case. I'll say, though, that the Trump rally in Butler PA the weekend before Election Day put the scare into everyone. That was probably the first indication that their best laid plans may not be good enough. That's when they sloppily rushed the steal, hoping that the lawyers would scare off examination after the fact.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (mdjgu)


That makes perfect sense.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (YqDXo)

538 Aroo? I've never seen such a thing. Is it visible?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (yQpMk)
++++
Most high-speed laser printers embed a microdot pattern to track output. All color machines do this, and many monochrome machines. It's ostensibly an anti-counterfeiting measure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (Jsjd7)

539 anybody else notice how chippy obama has been the last couple of days?
can honestly say that i've not paid any attention to him since he left office.
Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at June 08, 2021 12:17 PM (v3pYe)


Have noticed this too. He's really running his mouth off. And sounding just as stupid as before.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2021 12:20 PM (axyOa)

540 It's infuriating that the GOP did absolutely jack shit when it was obvious a massive fraud had been perpetrated.

Posted by: Guzalot at June 08, 2021 12:20 PM (prSvo)

541 Also re: coordination, if you step back and look at what happened in the year leading up to election day through to Biden's inauguration, it was a color revolution. ...
Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (bDqIh)
++++
They obviously ran the color revolution playbook. It was obvious at the time that they were doing so.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:20 PM (Jsjd7)

542 at least he died doing what he loved...


@jihadwatchRS 19m

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Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 08, 2021 12:21 PM (nI1Kq)

543 Not sure how big a ZZZ is...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (ynpvh)


More than a mouthful!

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 08, 2021 12:21 PM (yrol0)

544 I still love him, but his biggest weakness was who he surrounded himself with.

His personnel choices are lamentable in many cases. But it's not like he had a deep bench to draw from either. His own party was committed to thwarting him.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 08, 2021 12:21 PM (QU5/8)

545 The Civil War was a cataclysmic bloodbath. I can only imagine what a second would be like. Pray to God we never find out.
Posted by: troyriser

Conservatives just need to start cheating. Way easier than taking control with arms.

Have 500k ballots come from some rural precinct in PA and see what they do then.

Problem is, election law is stacked in a way that once a ballot is turned in, you can't start "guessing" at which ones are legit and which ones are fraud. Dems know this and use it to their advantage.

Posted by: Blago at June 08, 2021 12:21 PM (PwNLq)

546 Gentlemen, I give you the F. B. I. Also, the I. R. S. Also... this list is quite long, really.

Posted by: Hans Gruber at June 08, 2021 12:21 PM (uhPTO)

547 542 at least he died doing what he loved...


@jihadwatchRS 19m

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Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 08, 2021 12:21 PM (nI1Kq)

Ins Allah

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 08, 2021 12:22 PM (yrol0)

548 532 What good does this do now? We can't get rid of Biden, if we impeach him we get Veep Throat, which is hardly an improvement. And the GOP has proved they will collapse like wet kleenex instead of defending us, how can this help?
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (GZ/yK)

It makes Biden an instant lame duck who couldn't get a traffic regulation through the legislative branch.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 08, 2021 12:22 PM (o2MD2)

549 Barr's comment that there was not enough fraud to change the outcome, was, IMO evidence that he knew all about it. If he was not pro-dem, he could have chosen to prosecute Strzok and company. He sat on his fat ass instead. The GOP were lying and complicit since 2016.

Posted by: CN at June 08, 2021 12:22 PM (ONvIw)

550 thanks to a late surge of mail-in ballots counted after election monitors were shooed from State Farm Arena in Atlanta.

This was allowed to happen. In The United States.


#WASTF

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:22 PM (Zz0t1)

551 Barr's comment that there was not enough fraud to change the outcome, was, IMO evidence that he knew all about it. If he was not pro-dem, he could have chosen to prosecute Strzok and company. He sat on his fat ass instead. The GOP were lying and complicit since 2016.
Posted by: CN at June 08, 2021 12:22 PM (ONvIw)
++++
Barr may have been on the Dem side entirely. It's certainly possible. I think it's also possible that he was a Company Man through and through and would take no action that could result in bad publicity for The Company.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:23 PM (Jsjd7)

552 543 Not sure how big a ZZZ is...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (ynpvh)





More than a mouthful!

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 08, 2021 12:21 PM (yrol0)

My God! probably more than an armful!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 08, 2021 12:23 PM (ynpvh)

553 Have noticed this too. He's really running his mouth off. And sounding just as stupid as before.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2021 12:20 PM (axyOa)


He's stuck in the nonsensical position of ridiculing people who fixate on CRT while defending it. Strategic jeanyuss.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:23 PM (y7DUB)

554
This was allowed to happen. In The United States.


#WASTF
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:22 PM (Zz0t1)


By the GOP governor of the state.

Posted by: CN at June 08, 2021 12:23 PM (ONvIw)

555 >Nigeria: Jihad group top dog Abubakar Shekau kills himself when cornered by rival jihadis


Aloha Snackbar!

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 08, 2021 12:23 PM (iTXRQ)

556

I sat next to a Repub poll watcher on a flight after this atrocity.

She only had her life threatened, as well as others, while GOP lawyers looked on.

Posted by: Senator Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at June 08, 2021 12:23 PM (NuVOb)

557 Posted by: Romeo13 at June 08, 2021 12:14 PM (oHd/0) Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:15 PM (Jsjd7) I think that the Molly Ball TIME magazine report indicates that this
was probably the case. I'll say, though, that the Trump rally in
Butler PA the weekend before Election Day put the scare into everyone.
That was probably the first indication that their best laid plans may
not be good enough. That's when they sloppily rushed the steal, hoping
that the lawyers would scare off examination after the fact Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 12:18 PM (mdjgu

That's Peter Navarro's thesis as well. He did a 3-part report that's downloadable on his website that says there was an accumulation of unconstitutional policies, small fraud, and big fraud, that added up to enough fraud to steal the election. But even he doesn't address the counting halt and then the huge vote dumps.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 12:23 PM (BMmaB)

558 in GA at 4am biden got 100k votes, Trump got 1K votes

Posted by: will choose a nic later at June 08, 2021 12:23 PM (bTQ72)

559 Speaking of Perdue in GA, did everyone see what happened at the N. Caro convention? Lara Trump was supposedly running for senate. Trump gives a speech, and Lara withdraws while trump endorses someone else.

But apparently, this was a surprise to the NCaro GOP, who were pushing a different, GOPe candidate. So the next day the Chair is sending a memo saying pay no attention to Trump's endorsement--we want our guy.

It sounds to be that the whole thing was a classic Trump dipsy-doodle, to thwart the GOPe

Posted by: artemis at June 08, 2021 12:24 PM (AwPyG)

560 I noted that some time ago. If the election was on the up and up they would have shown the world the demo breakdowns and crowed about it.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (RMGKK)

Wouldn't that come from sampling the voters at election-time, exit polling? And possibly from releasing demographic info on registered voters who request mail-in ballots.
That first part at least has nothing to do with the government, but with whoever decides to do the polling.

Posted by: Stonn at June 08, 2021 12:24 PM (xP36F)

561 The worst thing about the reign of the Golden Scalpweasel was otherwise intelligent people giving Scott Adams an iota of credence.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:17 PM (y7DUB)

I am somewhat guilty of that. Because I learned a shitload from him in his narrow area of expertise in 2016. An area I didn't know a ton about at the time.

I soured on him as time moved on because it became obvious he has a lot of nitwit opinions and also plays games with his readers. No time for that shit.

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2021 12:24 PM (H+S8x)

562 @jihadwatchRS 19m

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Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 08, 2021 12:21 PM (nI1Kq)


If you suicide and don't take non-believers with you, you go to Hell.

Enjoy the barbed cock of allah, asshole. Meaning, either way, you get the barbed cock of allah.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:24 PM (Zz0t1)

563 Tommy voted for Biden.

- Tommy's Mom

Posted by: Also Found In The Ballots at June 08, 2021 12:24 PM (Ypqc1)

564 It makes Biden an instant lame duck who couldn't get a traffic regulation through the legislative branch.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 08, 2021 12:22 PM (o2MD2)

If you're brazen enough to steal the election, you're brazen enough to keep legislating your wishes until you're removed by force.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 08, 2021 12:24 PM (uhPTO)

565 Barr may have been on the Dem side entirely. It's certainly possible. I think it's also possible that he was a Company Man through and through and would take no action that could result in bad publicity for The Company.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:23 PM (Jsjd7)

This is where I was about Barr until I checked into his background, Joe. He is pure, unadulterated trash like basically every career D.C. bureaucrat. He buried the coup attempt because he probably wanted to do so, but even if that were not the case he could do nothing because he was utterly compromised. He's what amounts to a Bush.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 08, 2021 12:25 PM (puu6v)

566 Most high-speed laser printers embed a microdot pattern to track output. All color machines do this, and many monochrome machines. It's ostensibly an anti-counterfeiting measure.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (Jsjd7)



I've never noticed this and I worked with highspeed Konica Minoltas for years. Thanks for the info.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2021 12:25 PM (yQpMk)

567 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MIKE PENCE SENIOR at June 08, 2021 12:25 PM (Pzzpr)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at June 08, 2021 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)

568 Barr's comment that there was not enough fraud to change the outcome, was, IMO evidence that he knew all about it. If he was not pro-dem, he could have chosen to prosecute Strzok and company. He sat on his fat ass instead. The GOP were lying and complicit since 2016.
Posted by: CN at June 08, 2021 12:22 PM (ONvIw)


He might conceivably have been channeling Nixon, who refused to contest the stolen 1960 election because of the damage it would do to the country.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2021 12:25 PM (YqDXo)

569 NOOD.

Piss Wallace.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 08, 2021 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)

570 While it would be great to see them prove things were stolen, you know the outcome. They'll prove 100,000 ballots were fake, everyone will agree that we shouldn't let this happen again, nothing will change and it will happen again next election.

While in reality, when they prove it, Biden and Harris should be removed from office, the 2 Dem Senators from GA should be removed from office, and the Democratic Party should be forcibly disbanded, all their officials banned from ever holding office, and then comes the jailings.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 08, 2021 12:25 PM (oiu6x)

571 558 in GA at 4am biden got 100k votes, Trump got 1K votes

Posted by: will choose a nic later at June 08, 2021 12:23 PM (bTQ72)

==========

"That's obviously not even worth considering since Biden voters largely voted by mail and Trump voters largely voted in person."
"Shouldn't the mail in votes been counted largely before election day."
*squinty eyes*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 08, 2021 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

572 "I still stand by my prediction that before Stinkfinger's "term" ends,
leading Dems will admit, publicly, that the election was stolen and,
moreover, the GOP will excuse it on the grounds that Trump was such a
mortal danger to the nation that, to quote Steve Dallas, they had to
spill a little constitutional milk to save the American pie.


Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing"

They Time article came very close to doing just this. Not quite said directly and clearly the Dems cheated but the point was made that Trump was going to lose BAMN. People paying attention know what they meant.

Posted by: Ripley at June 08, 2021 12:26 PM (MxEKc)

573 in GA at 4am biden got 100k votes, Trump got 1K votes

See? It was bipartisan!

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 12:26 PM (Ypqc1)

574 OT, but at my daughters fifth grade graduation, they read a statement by Biden, and it ended with, do not forget to wear a mask.

Posted by: Tofer732 at June 08, 2021 12:26 PM (kUGet)

575 If you're brazen enough to steal the election,
you're brazen enough to keep legislating your wishes until you're
removed by force.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 08, 2021 12:24 PM (uhPTO)

Your proposal is acceptable.

Posted by: flounder at June 08, 2021 12:26 PM (KnJdm)

576 MUMPS sighting -- and making sense, too!

Posted by: ShainS at June 08, 2021 12:26 PM (CYgrT)

577 I'm sure the headlines will be along the lines of "100 Courts Dismissed Claims of Voter Fraud But One Judge Wants to Continue Litigating..." etc.

That said I still hold out irrational hope that the truth will out. I have zero hope of reversal of the result. But at least let's at least shatter The Matrix for the few who don't yet know and who might someday care.

Posted by: Zek at June 08, 2021 12:26 PM (5RTdG)

578 What's this? Named persons who swore affidavits under penalty of perjury? Why, how dare they do so instead of being Sources Say!

Also note that the article says one of the defenses is that ballots are photocopied when too damaged to go through a scanner. Yeah, I'd like to see some data, actual hard data, on how many times that happened in the past along with the statutory and regulatory authority authorizing it.

Now is when I make the Horde detest me even more than usual. Let us say all of this is proven true. What's the remedy? Seriously, what remedy is there for this? It's not like the House is going to decertify the election results in GA. And we all know no one will be prosecuted for it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 08, 2021 12:27 PM (GbPPJ)

579 "Shouldn't the mail in votes been counted largely before election day."

You're not supposed to, which is why I bet they were counted before election day, to frame the steal.

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 12:27 PM (4EIFd)

580 Nood Wallace, and not of the Scot variety.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado - Tempus belli) at June 08, 2021 12:28 PM (N3El/)

581 Now is when I make the Horde detest me even more than usual. Let us say all of this is proven true. What's the remedy? Seriously, what remedy is there for this? It's not like the House is going to decertify the election results in GA. And we all know no one will be prosecuted for it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 08, 2021 12:27 PM (GbPPJ)

Well you would owe use compensatory victory boobs of course!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at June 08, 2021 12:29 PM (z5Vrg)

582 Also I'd say the democratic party needs to be salted so nothing can grow there again, but if you look at the majority of them they appear mummified or tanned already.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 08, 2021 12:29 PM (oiu6x)

583 "I still stand by my prediction that before Stinkfinger's "term" ends,
leading Dems will admit, publicly, that the election was stolen and, moreover, the GOP will excuse it on the grounds that Trump was such a mortal danger to the nation that, to quote Steve Dallas, they had to spill a little constitutional milk to save the American pie.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing"

They Time article came very close to doing just this. Not quite said directly and clearly the Dems cheated but the point was made that Trump was going to lose BAMN. People paying attention know what they meant.
Posted by: Ripley


At which point I will publicly declare my support for shooting.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 08, 2021 12:29 PM (FxM6p)

584 We took a few liberties with our mail in votes.
*wink*

Posted by: Animal Farm House at June 08, 2021 12:29 PM (5RTdG)

585 I noted that some time ago. If the election was on the up and up they would have shown the world the demo breakdowns and crowed about it.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2021 12:04 PM (RMGKK)


I don't think so. I think if the election were on the up and up, they would have just ignored allegations of fraud, which would have then gone away.

Just as conservatives ignored allegations of fraud in the 2016 election. There was no evidence of fraud proffered, just vague allegations of "voter suppression," which were, quite rightly, just ignored as being baseless.

That the Democrats went ape-shit trying to shut people up about fraud, and demanding essentially loyalty oaths, made (and makes) me highly suspicious.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2021 12:29 PM (YqDXo)

586 But why Xerox off ballots? Those orchestrating the steal should have had more than enough of the legitimate article because everyone ordered a shit ton of ballots because of the all mail election.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2021 12:12 PM (Jsjd7)

Because the machine cheat was only a few points... trump was going to win anyway.

Posted by: Inogame at June 08, 2021 12:29 PM (53oGX)

587 The louder they proclaimed their honesty, the faster I counted the silverware.

Posted by: GnuBreed, journalizin' at June 08, 2021 12:30 PM (F0YaR)

588 309 I really think the mail in ballots need to get
reformed or Republicans are doomed. Or they need to stat cheating like
the Dems do (way easier than a bloody revolution)

Posted by: Blago at June 08, 2021 11:52 AM (PwNLq)'
The new GA law does that plus some other stuff for actual voting in person like photo ID. The communists are raising hell but there are 27 other states who have either passed similar laws or have them in process.

Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2021 12:30 PM (mpXpK)

589 Now is when I make the Horde detest me even more than usual.

Let us say all of this is proven true. What's the remedy? Seriously, what remedy is there for this?
Posted by: alexthechick



Public executions.

For ANYONE THAT GAVE THIS A PASS.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 08, 2021 12:30 PM (FxM6p)

590 If instead of a fake 140,000 votes it's 139,999 Politifact will rate this story "mostly false."

Posted by: Zek at June 08, 2021 12:30 PM (5RTdG)

591 >>Most high-speed laser printers embed a microdot pattern to track output. All color machines do this, and many monochrome machines. It's ostensibly an anti-counterfeiting measure.


Re: wouldn;t duplicates been caught -- recall that the Domion machines had that featire (mediation? forget what it's called) where scanned ballots with errors are placed in a separate file, and then a Dominion person can go in and bulk assign then to a candidate(s).

IIRC. that was the trick identified in at least one country, where all the GOP mail-in ballots had a fold where Trump's name was printed (they were slightly offkilter, unlike the Dem mail-in ballots)that caused them to be put in a separate file, then they could all be reassigned to Biden in one command.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 08, 2021 12:30 PM (bDqIh)

592 "Shouldn't the mail in votes been counted largely before election day."

There shouldn't BE any mail-in ballots. Zero. Zip. Nada. None. Nichevo. Nichts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2021 12:31 PM (YqDXo)

593 > Most high-speed laser printers embed a microdot pattern to track output. All color machines do this, and many monochrome machines. It's ostensibly an anti-counterfeiting measure.

Printers and copiers firmware also detects if you're trying to print/copy money. They auto reduce the quality of the print/copy if it detects currency.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 12:31 PM (YYlyE)

594 Every state that stopped counting on election night committed election fraud.

Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at June 08, 2021 12:31 PM (eMEkg)

595 Too late. Fulton County pulled the sheriffs and then 20 minutes later the alarm went off, and the building was found with the doors wide open.

Posted by: MikeN at June 08, 2021 12:32 PM (o/eHL)

596 Didn't these ballots also kink the Senate races?

Posted by: Jean at June 08, 2021 12:32 PM (Lv/79)

597 "Shouldn't the mail in votes been counted largely before election day."



You're not supposed to, which is why I bet they were counted before election day, to frame the steal.

Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2021 12:27 PM (4EIFd
In Texas we do count them and early votes before Election Day and release the results at 8 pm after polls are closed, so there's no way to find "extra" mail ballots after the Election Day count to put the Democrat over the top.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 12:32 PM (BMmaB)

598 532 What good does this do now? We can't get rid of Biden, if we impeach him we get Veep Throat, which is hardly an improvement. And the GOP has proved they will collapse like wet kleenex instead of defending us, how can this help?
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at June 08, 2021 12:19 PM (GZ/yK)

So what? So what if it doesn't do any good. You go forward with it anyway. And if people understood how the world works well enough to predict the what will happen, Socialism and Communism and Authoritarianism would work every time.

Posted by: Stonn at June 08, 2021 12:33 PM (xP36F)

599 @594 "Every state that stopped counting on election night committed election fraud."

"... committed insurrection."

Posted by: Zek at June 08, 2021 12:33 PM (5RTdG)

600 451 If I was to pay a hobo, say, ten dollars for his or her signed nad otherwise completed mail-in vote, then I checked the box for Puddinghead and mailed it in, how would I get caught? Can't get caught in an election audit, can it?
______________

Nope. They check to make sure the voter's name is on the registration rolls, and they compare the signature on the ballot envelope with the one on file. If your hobo signed the ballot envelope (and if his signature looks anything even remotely like the one on file), then the vote is considered legit and tallied. They don't go out and question voters about whether or not they were paid for their votes. The only way the vote-buyer would risk getting caught is if somebody had witnessed the transaction and reported it, or if it was an organized scheme and there were emails or texts or memos or whatever in which the vote buying was detailed (IOW, admissions).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 08, 2021 12:33 PM (k4dH2)

601 Every state that stopped counting on election night committed election fraud.
Posted by: MAGA


Execute every election official that allowed this to stand.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 08, 2021 12:34 PM (FxM6p)

602 Well you would owe use compensatory victory boobs of course!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at June 08, 2021 12:29 PM (z5Vrg)

We don't get worked up about a lot around here, but if we learn we've been cheated out of bewbs, well heaven help the perpetrators.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 08, 2021 12:34 PM (oiu6x)

603 I do not think there is any constitutionally acceptable way to remove a sworn in President that was fraudulently elected. But when has the constitution ever gotten in the way of the Federal deep state?


Posted by: Archer at June 08, 2021 12:34 PM (gmo/4)

604 Those ballots didn't light themselves on fire.

Posted by: Tomorrow's Headlines Today at June 08, 2021 12:35 PM (5RTdG)

605 Too late. Fulton County pulled the sheriffs and
then 20 minutes later the alarm went off, and the building was found
with the doors wide open. Posted by: MikeN at June 08, 2021 12:32 PM (o/eHL
I think that was the outer door. The party that was litigating for the audit had a private security guard (off-duty police) watching the building, no one went in or out until the sheriffs showed up, and the inside door was locked.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 12:35 PM (BMmaB)

606 Ultimately though, it was Trump's three SCOTUS picks that finally put a stake in the heart of the Constitution and the nation ...
Posted by: ShainS at June 08, 2021 12:02 PM (CYgrT)

--------------------

McConnell's picks, never forget that.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 08, 2021 12:36 PM (RMGKK)

607 I want buying a gun as easy as voting, i.e., no background check and no ID,

Or I want voting as hard as it is to buy a gun.
Background check to verify you are registered, picture ID, and in person. No sending your mom.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 08, 2021 12:37 PM (FxM6p)

608 JUST IN TIME!

Posted by: JayInAmes at June 08, 2021 12:37 PM (yGu6h)

609 @Trivial Pursuer, True the Vote has stories of entire nursing homes all voting by mail, and houses with hundreds of people registered. I think someone found that more than 5,000 Nevada voters actually lived in California. Mail ballots should always be taken with a grain of salt.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 08, 2021 12:38 PM (BMmaB)

610 If this is true, shouldn't be more absentee ballots than envelopes?

Posted by: thornhill at June 08, 2021 12:39 PM (cbHqJ)

611 And the "beauty" of "ballot harvesting" is that it puts all the shenanigans beyond even the strictest forensic audit. Groups of "community organizers" visiting granny etc to tell them how to vote.
For the reason that all states outlaw "electioneering" at a polling place, the whole idea of allowing unsupervised gathering of ballots by private groups should never even be considered.

Posted by: Zek at June 08, 2021 12:43 PM (5RTdG)

612 That's it. I'm appointing Durham to investigate!

Posted by: Brave Sir Wm Barr of Nothingham at June 08, 2021 12:44 PM (5RTdG)

613 He might conceivably have been channeling Nixon, who refused to contest the stolen 1960 election because of the damage it would do to the country.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2021 12:25 PM (YqDXo)

No he was channeling what was best for Barr. If it was the other way around, he'd be indicting people right and left. Plus why was it "good for the country" to allow the BLM leaders and financiers to take no responsibility for the damage they did? Barr coyly hinted that he knew who these people were, and that made an end of it. They must have paid through the nose.

Posted by: CN at June 08, 2021 12:47 PM (ONvIw)

614 Were these ballots stored at the facility that had the alarm go off a couple days ago?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 08, 2021 12:52 PM (jsWA8)

615 They Xeroxed ballots because they didn't have the time to fill out blank ones.

Posted by: creeper at June 08, 2021 01:03 PM (XxJt1)

616 Absentee ballots should be printed on something akin to what currency is printed on. Make them very difficult to duplicate. Serialize them to the voter they're sent to and make them criminally liable for misuse of their ballot.

The corollary to this is that since that stuff is expensive mail-in ballots must be limited to those who absolutely cannot get to polls.

Posted by: JEM at June 08, 2021 01:28 PM (8erNz)

617 614 Were these ballots stored at the facility that had the alarm go off a couple days ago?
Posted by: CSMBigBird


Yes

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 08, 2021 01:34 PM (qZdIZ)

618 no need for cyncism yet

let's just see what develops
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2021 11:21 AM (j9HX3)

You're about 5 years late on that comment.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 08, 2021 02:34 PM (z79tQ)

619 I do not think there is any constitutionally acceptable way to remove a sworn in President that was fraudulently elected. But when has the constitution ever gotten in the way of the Federal deep state?


Posted by: Archer

We the people.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * pater peccavi at June 08, 2021 02:36 PM (dJYe3)

620 If this is true, shouldn't be more absentee ballots than envelopes?
Posted by: thornhill at June 08, 2021 12:39 PM (cbHqJ)



Didn't they already accidentally shred the envelopes?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2021 03:09 PM (yQpMk)

621 613 "Plus why was it "good for the country" to allow the BLM leaders and financiers to take no responsibility for the damage they did? Barr coyly hinted that he knew who these people were, and that made an end of it. They must have paid through the nose."
Posted by: CN at June 08, 2021 12:47 PM (ONvIw)

The infamous Time article also hinted that the left's powers-that-be told them to stand down for a while, because it was hurting them in the polls. That being said, Barr still could have gone after them. Also, what happened to those people that the feds did drag off the street accompanied by Antifa wailing and screaming? For all we know, they're sipping daquiris on Maui by now.

Posted by: Joe Smith at June 08, 2021 03:26 PM (zmIA8)

622 "...a race that Biden won by just 12,000 votes thanks to a late surge of
mail-in ballots counted after election monitors were shooed from State
Farm Arena in Atlanta."
Meanwhile, no responsibility or effort to report the truth anywhere.
No, biden did not win the race....it's mathmatically impossible; the stats, not to mention eyewitnesses, the ballots themselves, etc. prove that it could not and did not happen -- unless he got more votes than O in 2008. Really going to push that, are they?
That's the first lie. The second is the "thanks to a..." no--that phrase does not explain the first part, because since he didn't win, how can it be "thanks to a late surge..."
Third lie...that "late surge" -- in their VERY OWN ARTICLE -- is proven to be, actually -- brought in votes done by a printer and with no creases-- and not a "late surge" at all.

Geesh. Can't even get through one sentence without three bold lies.

Posted by: Midlandia at June 08, 2021 03:37 PM (x5dTf)

623 489 442 > I'm pretty convinced that the advent of Powell and that other creep Lin Wood as News Stories was enemy action designed to chum the waters.

My read is that Wood is a grifter and Powell was completely out of her depth.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2021 12:09 PM (YYlyE)

You may be right about that. I trust that Powell had the best of intentions, but the problem was too big for someone without deep knowledge of election law. The funny thing is that we haven't heard anything about those Dao Min Yen billion-dollar lawsuits for quite a while.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 08, 2021 12:14 PM (mdjgu)

If Patrick Byrne is to be believed, when he and Powell got together with Flynn and put together a team to study the problems with the election, they were all really excited about what they found. The problems, according to him were that a.) Rudy is a drunk, and was too old-fashioned to properly understand what they were trying to tell him; b.) A lot of people in the White House, including Meadows, were sabotaging everything they possibly could;

Posted by: Joe Smith at June 08, 2021 03:56 PM (zmIA8)

624 When Biden gets removed from office the summer gonna be even more lit..that halfrican

There is judicial precedent where clear and convincing evidence of voter fraud has occurred changing the outcome, the court removes the beneficiary of the fraud (cheater) and puts in the rightful winner.

Now,. What court has the balls to do that?

Posted by: Oddknot at June 08, 2021 03:59 PM (5JrT1)

625 623 cont. c.) Trump's heart wasn't fully in the fight to begin with, and he also apparently didn't have faith that presenting the evidence in a calm and rational way would be effective; he preferred his usual pep rally, get the base riled up approach. He also refused to give up on Rudy and others. Byrne also claims that he was told (third-hand, apparently, so apply salt to your taste) that Melania had been told that if Trump won, someone would try to assassinate him.

In fairness, there is definitely a strong argument that Byrne is a weirdo and a not-unreasonable argument that he's a grifter, so I'll leave you to decide for yourself; however, his story does have the advantage of explaining how Powell could look completely brilliant defending Flynn, but like a numbskull when litigating the election. Darrell's point about not having heard anything about the Dominion lawsuit lately is also a good one--if nothing else, it means that the media doesn't want to keep attracting attention to the role in the election.

Posted by: Joe Smith at June 08, 2021 04:03 PM (zmIA8)

626 All the judge did was unseal the documents. It is not an indication of anything other than a judge their job. It does not mean the ballots were fake, or were filled in by a copy machine. It only means enough people raised a stink about it that the judge went ahead and allowed tem to look at the ballots.

If I recall correctly, the issue of computer-generated ballots was already investigated and shown to be false. The volunteers were not fully aware of how the entire process works, as they don't need to know the entire background process to perform their specific jobs properly.

Posted by: Bob Dobbs at June 09, 2021 01:22 PM (AWpVJ)

627 I've never been so ashamed in all my life as I was on November 3rd 2020. At one time I would have given my life for this country but I wouldn't give up flat ass flying fuck for this lib toward banana Republic now! When you take the people's voice you've taken their democracy! You better get free and fair elections back in this goddamn country and quick!

Posted by: Kyle Fannin at June 10, 2021 01:08 AM (LtWVn)

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