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Yay, ONT!
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 13, 2025 10:00 PM (lUFok) 2
Have you finished your Valentine's Day shopping yet? Only 62 days until.
Posted by: mindful webworker - the original at December 13, 2025 10:00 PM (lbDMw) 3
Yo 3D's!!! and the horde, of course
Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at December 13, 2025 10:01 PM (jvxGE) 4
Good evening good people.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2025 10:02 PM (cYBz/) 5
Sorry I'm late, I forgot sprinkles on the Christmas cookies.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:03 PM (R256O) 6
Sprints to WT#1, saves seats for DDS, Nurse, Marie....and anybody else who would care to pick up the tab.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:04 PM (TfUTr) 7
Yo D's!
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 13, 2025 10:05 PM (t/66j) 8
Evenin'
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 10:05 PM (rii+a) Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (n9ltV) 10
Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (R256O) 11
Club Bingo. Take a drink any time one of the items on the grid is mentioned in the comments.
---- Do you intend to overload the ER with alcohol-poisoned morons? Posted by: clarence at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (sdF4j) 12
Fess up. Who has re-gifted a Christmas present?
Why not? You have three options: keep it and never use it and have the gifter ask where it is; throw it away unused, break it. Seems regifting is the superior option. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:08 PM (uQesX) 13
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‘ Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?’ It works. You just push down on her head and her mouth opens. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 10:09 PM (fd80v) 14
Nice party, Ds! The Jingle Juice is tasty. I will hang out in the colored light area with other weirdoes, hobos and odd ducks.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 10:10 PM (6p0Jv) 15
Hi! I am here, finally! I made cookies.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:11 PM (ZdaMQ) 16
Hello all...sorry the cookies won't have sprinkles...go take it up with Tankdemon...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 10:12 PM (IQ6Gq) 17
Good evening morons and слава тройке!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:12 PM (OWovX) 18
Thank you for all the past year of Club ONT! The 3Ds do know how to bring it!
(Puts $1.73 in tip jar) Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:14 PM (TfUTr) 19
What was the one Christmas gift you hoped and prayed would show up under the tree? And it did! What did you get?
The Navaronne. If your having WWII problems I feel sorry for you, son. I got 99 problems, but lack of Navaronne ain't one. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 10:14 PM (mFz+I) 20
Kamala Harris bobblehead is the wrong suit color, it's got to be brown, gotta be a brown suit. She wore the brown pant suit all the time during the campaign. Ugh.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (y171U) 21
Great British cooking?
Yeah, even the Brits know that. L3wis, the Jolly boys, and Mr. and Mrs. H say it's nowhere near as good as American cooking. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (uQesX) 22
They're nice but not as festive as colored lights. I'm not wearing freshly pressed khakis, a fine linen shirt, and penny loafers, so not sure I belong in those areas of the Club. I'll hang out where I won't be judged for wearing well-worn jeans, an ugly seater, and scuffed-up boots
===== *side eye* Who let him in? /to herself Posted by: Melissa Cutherbertson-Klein from Groton, CT at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (OWovX) 23
To kick off the White Elephant gift game, whoever has comment number 56, please collect the first gift (pictured below) - your very own Kamala Harris bobblehead
That's okay...my sister already gave me a Hilary Clinton big-assed figurine for my birthday one year... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (ynpvh) 24
10 Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (R256O) Yes! And if it's made out of the right kind of plastic you could probably cut the feet off of the base, apply some heat to the knee region, bend the legs back to the appropriate angle, let it cool, then glue it back onto the base on it's knees. Maybe also modify the head bobble mechanism so it only bobbles forward and back. > Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 10:16 PM (X5Jzz) 25
I stayed up late just to see this, and it was well worth it. Enjoy the party, you people who can stay up later than I! Had a busy day of baking, more tomorrow.
Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:16 PM (79pEw) 26
Thanks for the dandy Club ONT Christmas Party, Disco, Doggo and Dino!
The place looks fabulous! Par-tay!!! Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (kB9dk) 27
What was the one Christmas gift you hoped and prayed would show up under the tree? And it did! What did you get?
Golf clubs. Got the cheapest Jr set in the world (Delta? Guess they don't just make faucets). I used the hell out of them and still had the putter until a decade ago. I was mid teens when I got them (15-16). Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (rii+a) 28
There is a little Wang in the punch.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (gbOdA) 29
Most of the day was spent prototyping a case in blender for the Quark Mini Linux computer and 3D printing it, and also creating terminal aliases and zsh helper functions.
Who knew you could spend an hour deciding how you want your backup time stamp formatted. And now I am having some bourbon and sour patch gummies. Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (XV/Pl) 30
Great ONT!
Posted by: Moonbeam at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (rbKZ6) 31
‘Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?’
It works. You just push down on her head and her mouth opens. Posted by: Dr. Claw The spring should really be mounted horizontally, not vertically. Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (nhCoE) 32
Looking at that seventies photo I literally first thought I must have sent it in and forgot. Probably the washed out colors. But the television set helped.
I think Ive regifted only once. I generally only give gifts that the person has actually asked for or which I could imagine enjoying and using myself. A regift implies something I dont want, and Im not going to give something that I wouldnt want. I tend to feel the same way about potlucks. I wont bring anything I wouldnt enjoy. I always wonder at people who say, oh I cant/won't eat that but I thought you guys might. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (EXyHK) 33
There is a little Wang in the punch.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (gbOdA) *spits out the Jingle Juice* Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 10:18 PM (6p0Jv) 34
Merry Christmas Bluebell! Glad to see you here. Happy baking...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (IQ6Gq) 35
That's okay...my sister already gave me a Hilary Clinton big-assed figurine for my birthday one year...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (ynpvh) -------- When Obama was president, my husband got our friend's daughter to surreptitiously slip an Obama chia pet kit under the tree for him. Drove our friend crazy for weeks wondering who it was from until my husband finally confessed. Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (79pEw) 36
I had to send my iPad back to Apple. This is not great news. I will just sit at the bar and casually swing my legs until someone notices my shoes.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (ZdaMQ) 37
I am way too late, but this is early for me, Merry Christmas Horde, good to see you. Thank you to JQ and the three D's, its party time!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (0nHVk) 38
My white elephant gift is a 3/8" socket that I've marked 10mm. We'll see if anyone notices. Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (QVmho) 39
"In related news, plays on the jukebox are free tonight."
Sneaks up to jukebox. Plays "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer." Plays it again. Then again. Repeat 15 times. Plays Lindsey Sterling's "Carol of the Bells" Plays "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer" five more times. *I will not be offsetting anybody's costs for therapy. Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (R256O) 40
I had that Snoopy album!
I still have that album! Christmas bells, oh Christmas bells, ringing through the land Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (EXyHK) 41
Thank you, Grateful! I stole a peek at the hobby thread and loved that as well.
Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (79pEw) 42
To kick off the White Elephant gift game, whoever has comment number 56, please collect the first gift (pictured below) - your very own Kamala Harris bobblehead
What number gets the joey biden windup toy that just wanders around the tree? Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (TfUTr) 43
I worked in a large office in a time where there were drunken shenanigans during the Christmas party.
It was the 80s but you young people probably think it was like Mad Men. It wasn't but we did have secretaries who typed our work. Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (OWovX) 44
Welcome in, party people! Good to see you all. Nice drop in from Bluebell - always good to have armed security. Hope everyone has fun tonight. Wanging Chung is optional.
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (QMAsf) 45
Tonight I'm 1). pissed off someone just rear-ended my wife's van when her and kid were traveling on the highway. 2). very grateful no one was hurt at all. 2 >>>> 1
Happy Christmas party everyone. I wish I had some nog. Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (3uBP9) 46
good evening DDS...thanks for bringing the meatballs, they are delicious....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (IQ6Gq) 47
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My white elephant gift is a 3/8" socket that I've marked 10mm. We'll see if anyone notices. Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (QVmho) My idea of Heaven is getting a full set of 10 mm socket deep open box box rachet and impact Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 10:22 PM (gbOdA) 48
I will not be offsetting anybody's costs for therapy.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (R256O) ------- As long as you don't play Christmas Shoes (shudder). The late great Oregon Muse and I shared a great disdain for that awful thing. I miss OMuse but I'm certain that he will never have to hear that song again where he is now. Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:22 PM (79pEw) 49
I shoveled out the drive so I could get to church tomorrow AM. The Ward office sent everyone an email that said services tomorrow were off on account of the day's high being 10 degrees. Gonna watch from home via virtual link.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:23 PM (XjTSo) 50
I brought the ugly gingerbread cookies... they taste good though...
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 13, 2025 10:23 PM (VCgbV) 51
Wow, what a party! Thanks, 3Ds! Everything came together so nicely, too...
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:23 PM (rdVOm) 52
I figure this may be a good time to ask but wasn't there a COB who was running a predict-it contest for 2025? Did I miss the results?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (OWovX) 53
My idea of Heaven is getting a full set of 10 mm
socket deep open box box rachet and impact Posted by: rhennigantx Hey, as long as you're gonna lose 'em, go for the whole magilla.... Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (TfUTr) 54
41 I stole a peek at the hobby thread and loved that as well.
Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM *** By popular demand (mostly Ben Had demand), we're doing the same theme next week! The Hobby Thread email box is open for submissions... Posted by: TRex - ornamental dino at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (IQ6Gq) Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (jvxGE) 56
*stumbling into the Club, after wrestling with Moose...carrying a half bottle of vodka and a slightly broken ornament*
Did I make it on time for the party?! Ima gonna lurch over to that sofa and probably just lurk... When I come up with some wittisisms, I will be sure to step back in🤪 'cause I know you all are waiting for THAT (sarc)... Hi Horde! Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (5lbLe) 57
33 There is a little Wang in the punch.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (gbOdA) *spits out the Jingle Juice* ======= Everybody Wang Chung tonight! Everybody have fun tonight! Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (XjTSo) 58
Evenin', Horde!
While trying to decide between watching Die Hard or a Krampus/Star Trek crossover, I was feeling a bit whelmed, for while I'm not done Christmas Shopping, and the wrapping is not done, the house is decorated with both white lights and colored lights. Earlier in the day, I was at Waffle House (or was it Buc-ee's), where the moose out front in the ugly sweater was hawking egg nog and Christmas cookies for $20 - same as in town. Ho ho ho, and Merry Christmas! Drink up. Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (OGOaV) 59
{{{DDS!}}} You chair awaits.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (TfUTr) 60
0 I brought the ugly gingerbread cookies... they taste good though...
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December I think they are adorable! Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (ZdaMQ) Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (rdVOm) 62
45 Tonight I'm 1). pissed off someone just rear-ended my wife's van when her and kid were traveling on the highway. 2). very grateful no one was hurt at all. 2 >>>> 1
Happy Christmas party everyone. I wish I had some nog. Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (3uBP9) Had to go to Costco earlier...made a left turn (two left turn lanes), guy in the lane next to me decided he really wanted to be in my lane. Fortunately I saw what he was doing, hit my brakes and honked the...Tim Walz. No car-to-car contact. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (ynpvh) 63
On Thursday they sent around the work party, food fest, sign-up list, I was on it in 5 seconds writing in meat and cheese tray. The easiest thing, and I got it first. Well the person that brings plates and cups might be easier but I can't go that low.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (3uBP9) 64
56 *stumbling into the Club, after wrestling with Moose...carrying a half bottle of vodka and a slightly broken ornament*
Did I make it on time for the party?! Ima gonna lurch over to that sofa and probably just lurk... When I come up with some wittisisms, I will be sure to step back in🤪 'cause I know you all are waiting for THAT (sarc)... Hi Horde! Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (5lbLe) Congrats on the Kumala doll... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (ynpvh) 65
52 I figure this may be a good time to ask but wasn't there a COB who was running a predict-it contest for 2025? Did I miss the results?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM *** Excellent memory. Yes, 'tis me. Results will be published after the new year. There is yet more 2025 to run... Posted by: TRex - kreskin dino at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (IQ6Gq) 66
Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (Wj1DV) 67
By popular demand (mostly Ben Had demand), we're doing the same theme next week! The Hobby Thread email box is open for submissions...
Posted by: TRex - ornamental dino at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (IQ6Gq) Oh good! Because I have a submission I was too late to submit for today. Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (ZdaMQ) 68
I will just sit at the bar and casually swing my legs until someone notices my shoes.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (ZdaMQ) Are you wearing those elf shoes with the curly toes? Unless they are saddle shoes or have curly toes, I probably won't even realize you have feet. Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (R256O) 69
Have fun. Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (ZxPkt) 70
*stumbling into the Club, after wrestling with Moose...carrying a half bottle of vodka and a slightly broken ornament*
Did I make it on time for the party?! Ima gonna lurch over to that sofa and probably just lurk... When I come up with some wittisisms, I will be sure to step back in🤪 'cause I know you all are waiting for THAT (sarc)... Hi Horde! Posted by: COMountainMarie Dearie, your seat is reserved, stay away from the couch....JQ got her job on that couch. (smiley face icon here) Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (TfUTr) Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (uQesX) 72
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Have fun. Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (ZxPkt) Somehow that comment # and comment seem related... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (ynpvh) 73
>>> *sends drone with bourbon/nog to Banana Dream*
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (rdVOm) I even have the perfect spiced rum for it. With a picture of a jaunty pirate and everything. Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (3uBP9) 74
My parents asked if Smoke the cat wanted a Christmas sweater. I laughed at the idea of stuffing Smoke into such a thing & him being anywhere close to pleased at doing so! Smoke went out to play while I shoveled snow earlier, so he is curled up on the sofa warming up.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (XjTSo) Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (h4uy9) 76
Evening all,
We have a launch in 2 hours. SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 15-12 SLC-4E - Vandenberg SFB - Space Affairs Live Launch Date: December 13, 2025 (PST) Launch Time: 9:49 p.m. PST https://youtu.be/cLpU4IDPvO8 Posted by: Joyenz at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (2F0/Y) 77
I predict San Franpsycho will be the first to dance with a lampshade on his head tonight.
I will check Pixy's thread in the morning to see if I am right. Good night everyone! Have fun! Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (79pEw) 78
Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit ----------- DIY picture on picture. Probably a sports fanatic's house. Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (rdVOm) 79
74 My parents asked if Smoke the cat wanted a Christmas sweater. I laughed at the idea of stuffing Smoke into such a thing & him being anywhere close to pleased at doing so! Smoke went out to play while I shoveled snow earlier, so he is curled up on the sofa warming up.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (XjTSo) My sister's dog loves wearing shirts, and gets pissed if one is not put on him... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (ynpvh) 80
I worked in a large office in a time where there were drunken shenanigans during the Christmas party.
I started working at my last job around 1991, the computer department of a small private university. The department was of course even smaller, but we still had Christmas parties and there was still serious alcohol. By the time I retired those parties were much more sanitized. I swear I was not to blame. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (EXyHK) 81
Die Hard... man.
McCain could have learned about "No wobbly shit" from Weasel when he jumped off that roof tied to a fire hose. (Good thing that table he hid under wasn't wobbly!) And I love the scene where he writes "Ho! Ho! Ho! Now I've got a machine gun" on that dead terrorist's ugly sweater. OK, it was a sweatshirt, but that's just a sweater with the fuzz on the inside. And all of the white lights and colored lights at that helipad on the roof. And that cop would have had a lot better stuff than Twinkies if they had Buc-ees in California. Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 10:30 PM (KC4YG) 82
so, any crazzzy office Christmas party stories ???
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2025 10:30 PM (g47mK) 83
Speaking of the Seventies Xmas photo, I also owned a wagon like that. Carried a lot of stuff around in it for a while. Then it was used to carry home & garden stuff around for a while.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:30 PM (XjTSo) 84
My idea of Heaven is getting a full set of 10 mm socket deep open box box rachet and impact Posted by: rhennigantx Before he passed, i was visiting Dad aand stolee all of his 3/8" sockets and wrenches (he had a Harley). I replaced them with equivalent 10mm tools just to fuck with him. The next time i visited, i put them all out at his work place when he went to the bathroom. He just glared at me. I reminded him of all the times he had me hold the sparkplug so he could check the spark on the mower. He grunted and called me a little shit. Really miss him. Miss our annual motorcycle rides across the country. But it's the little things, like stealing his tools that make me smile. BTW, he got me again with the sparkplug wires by turning over his Harley while I was hooking it back up after gapping it for him. He was 82 and I was old enough to know better. Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (QVmho) 85
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM
---------- Rat! You bastard! ***SLAP*** (you promised to never tell!) Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (rdVOm) 86
78 Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit ----------- DIY picture on picture. Probably a sports fanatic's house. Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (rdVOm) One TV with the VHF antenna, another with the UHF antenna? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (ynpvh) 87
Congratulations, COMM. You are now the proud owner of a Kamala Harris bobblehead. It is a Major Award!
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (R256O) 88
32 Looking at that seventies photo I literally first thought I must have sent it in and forgot.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (EXyHK) Christmas photo is stereotypical 70's. Naugahyde recliner. Encyclopedias in the bookcase. Portable TV on top of console TV to pick up UHF stations. Huge rabbit ears for distant stations. Posted by: Joemarine at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (y171U) 89
A large animatronic TRex in a Christmas sweater?
one of the entrants in the ugly sweater contest at our office holiday all-hands yesterday was a "tree rex" sweater. Posted by: anachronda at December 13, 2025 10:32 PM (edU/H) 90
Why not? You have three options: keep it and never use it and have the gifter ask where it is; throw it away unused, break it. Seems regifting is the superior option.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:08 PM (uQesX) "I'm standing right here" -Thrift store in the next town over Posted by: sal at December 13, 2025 10:32 PM (f+FmA) 91
My favorite cookies in the world are snowball cookies. I might make some this year. Cutting out carbs but it will be my one treat. You can make "plain" which are great but also mint, or cocoa, or orange, they are like a cookie canvas to make almost anything.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (3uBP9) 92
I had to send my iPad back to Apple. This is not great news. I will just sit at the bar and casually swing my legs until someone notices my shoes.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (ZdaMQ) Gee! Nice shoes, Piper! I love the color-coordinated spikes. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (npFr7) 93
Who gonna get that fantastic sweater?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (ynpvh) Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 10:34 PM (KC4YG) 95
Starting in the late 70s, my Dad would video tape each Christmas. He had these extremely bright light, and also had the camcorder hooked to the TV masquerading as furniture so we could see what was being recorded. It was kind of trippy to point the camera at the TV.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:34 PM (OGOaV) 96
Are you wearing those elf shoes with the curly toes? Unless they are saddle shoes or have curly toes, I probably won't even realize you have feet.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (R256O) Ummm no, https://tinyurl.com/yrdrd2yz - here they are. 😀 Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:35 PM (ZdaMQ) 97
People stopped asking me to Christmas parties because I always pocket the Beenie-Weenies.
Where are they? Posted by: Hangry Hank at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (oftw2) 98
Merry Christmas ... ho Ho HO.
four degrees out now ... I ventured out today when it was ten, and weather said my skin could freeze in a half hour. So I spent ten minutes wrapped up, clearing snow off 60% of my solar panels. The Big Question is whether tomorrow's full sun at ten degrees max will be hot enough to melt off the rest of the snow. This is what I do for hermit excitement. Oh, and heating the house with my little woodstove is also an adventure. Makes me feel self reliant. cheers Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (vbXSk) 99
Celebrating this virtual party with an eggnog. Not as good as Mom used to make, but tasty.
I don't have anything new to offer as a present to y'all, so I've re-wrapped this, from Christmas 2016 ICYMI: Mindful Webworkshop Episode #16 (the last one) - Christmas Politically Incorrect and Culturally Inappropriate pop song parodies and original tunes sure to put coal in my stocking. 🎅There are Santa Clauses 🎅Rudolfo 🎅The Terrible Christmas Song 🎅Christmas Wrap 🎅Nutcracker 🎅The All-Purpose Greeting Card Song Eleven minutes, so you may want to just bookmark it for after the party slows down. Or just re-gift it and go on with your preferred hard metal rock. Posted by: mindful webworker - in jaunty Santa hat at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (lbDMw) 100
My favorite cookies in the world are snowball cookies.
Snowball cookies are amazing. I love them all but I found a recipe for macadamia nut ones in an old Hawaiian community cookbook a few years back that I love. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (EXyHK) 101
95 Starting in the late 70s, my Dad would video tape each Christmas. He had these extremely bright light, and also had the camcorder hooked to the TV masquerading as furniture so we could see what was being recorded. It was kind of trippy to point the camera at the TV.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:34 PM (OGOaV) Brother was converting 8mm into VHS for my Dad. All the movies were silent so he added a soundtrack...in one, my Dad was skiing in Lake of the Ozarks to the sound of "Final Countdown". Dad was not amused. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (ynpvh) 102
99
... Posted by: mindful webworker - in jaunty Santa hat at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (lbDMw) Congrats on your new sweater. It's a beaut! Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:37 PM (ynpvh) 103
Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (Wj1DV) I'm guessing the big TV croaked, and they brought in the portable as backup. We tend to forget those old tube-type TV sets often developed problems that called for repair services. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 10:37 PM (npFr7) 104
(you promised to never tell!)
Posted by: JQ Sorry, but since it was in the newsletter I figured it was ok....sigh, places another $1.73 in tip jar. Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:37 PM (TfUTr) 105
Excellent memory. Yes, 'tis me. Results will be published after the new year. There is yet more 2025 to run...
Posted by: TRex - kreskin dino at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (IQ6Gq) ===== Well, I'm long the market and it hasn't collapsed, so there's that. Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:38 PM (OWovX) 106
re: dryer lint. mathematician friend of mine claimed that your dryer lint was the average color of your clothes.
Posted by: anachronda at December 13, 2025 10:38 PM (edU/H) 107
Piper, are your shoes Jimmy Choo, Louboutin, or Manahlo's?
I feel certain my invitation to Berserkers Christmas Metal Extravaganza must've been lost in the mail, so it's lovey to be able to join you all this evening! I was feeling fancy, hence the pearls and Norwegian Silver Fox coat. The pearls were a wedding gift, the fur was inherited. It is entirely too hot on top of my black velvet minidress, and thigh high leather boots, but one does one's poor best to carry on. The fishnet stockings would've been appropriate for Betserkers event, but, alas.... Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 10:38 PM (Vvh2V) 108
A friend of mine probably did the most sinister, creative and time consuming prank Christmas gift I've been honored to witness. He got his wife one of those House and Garden pots that plugs in and melts scented wax squares as an air freshener.
The bastard then bought the wax squares, which come in a plastic rectangle with slots for each square. He promptly removed the squares and melted them all down and proceeded to melt down some unscented candles he bought. With the unscented wax he made batches adding the most unpleasant scents you can imagine (Vinegar, Liniment, rotten eggs, spoiled milk). He shaped them using a mold. THEN, took the original scented squares and coated the outside. So, if you smelled them before they melted, it would seem A-OK. Then, he placed them back in the original containers. Wrapped the whole deal and put it under the tree for his wife. This is an ongoing thing with those two. She was impressed with the effort, as were we all. Posted by: Orson at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (dIske) 109
Glad to see all of you here at The Club Christmas Party!
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (41CYW) 110
"I'm standing right here"
-Thrift store in the next town over Posted by: sal at December 13, 2025 10:32 PM (f+FmA) Too much work. (tosses gift in garbage can) Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (uQesX) 111
91 My favorite cookies in the world are snowball cookies. I might make some this year. Cutting out carbs but it will be my one treat. You can make "plain" which are great but also mint, or cocoa, or orange, they are like a cookie canvas to make almost anything.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (3uBP9) ------------------------------ My favorites are Russian tea cakes, which as best I can tell are flatter versions of snowball cookies. Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (OGOaV) 112
96 Ummm no, https://tinyurl.com/yrdrd2yz - here they are. 😀
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:35 PM (ZdaMQ) As far as I am concerned, you might as well not even have feet. Quentin Tarintino or the Manolo might have a different opinion. Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (R256O) 113
The Big Question is whether tomorrow's full sun at ten degrees max will be hot enough to melt off the rest of the snow. This is what I do for hermit excitement. Oh, and heating the house with my little woodstove is also an adventure. Makes me feel self reliant.
cheers Posted by: illiniwek at December I hope you have cozy warm blankets! Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:40 PM (ZdaMQ) 114
Excellent memory. Yes, 'tis me. Results will be published after the new year. There is yet more 2025 to run...
Posted by: TRex - kreskin dino at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (IQ6Gq) My list is still around here somewhere- looking forward to it. And, DDD's? You have outdone yourselves. Posted by: sal at December 13, 2025 10:40 PM (f+FmA) 115
As far as I am concerned, you might as well not even have feet.
Quentin Tarintino or the Manolo might have a different opinion. Posted by: tankdemon at December Well they are kind of small because I am height challenged. Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (ZdaMQ) 116
The old Zenith console TV my folks had in the 70s couldn't pick up any UHF channels.
I do remember the days when a TV repairman would work on that old thing. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (6p0Jv) 117
106 re: dryer lint. mathematician friend of mine claimed that your dryer lint was the average color of your clothes.
Posted by: anachronda at December 13, 2025 10:38 PM (edU/H) Nearly seems right...some clothing is fuzzier than others and contributes more lint... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:42 PM (ynpvh) 118
Merry Christmas Everyone!
Just dropping in for a few seconds tho I wouldn't say no to a cold beer.... Will return later to read through all the comments. Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 10:42 PM (QGaXH) 119
Ummm no, https://tinyurl.com/yrdrd2yz - here they are. 😀
Posted by: Piper 1) Nice shoes! B) A grand? Someone was on the "nice" list! Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 10:43 PM (nhCoE) 120
Well they are kind of small because I am height challenged.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (ZdaMQ) $995 for shoes??!!?? You must get paid too much for your Sunday ONT work! Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:43 PM (QMAsf) 121
115 As far as I am concerned, you might as well not even have feet.
Quentin Tarintino or the Manolo might have a different opinion. Posted by: tankdemon at December Well they are kind of small because I am height challenged. Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (ZdaMQ) My wife was only 5'-0"... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (ynpvh) 122
*slides a cold one down the bar for ARiK*
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (rdVOm) 123
Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit Tube works on the bottom one, sound works on the top one? Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (nhCoE) 124
Gotta get off and be a productive member of society. Merry Christmas. Thanks to the 3D's for the swell party.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (R256O) 125
And, DDD's? You have outdone yourselves.
Posted by: sal Truely, "God Bless us, each and everyone!" Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (TfUTr) 126
116 The old Zenith console TV my folks had in the 70s couldn't pick up any UHF channels.
I do remember the days when a TV repairman would work on that old thing. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (6p0Jv) --------------------------------- Growing up, my Dad was an all-around handyman. We never had repair people in the house - no plumbers, no electricians - and never took our cars into the shop. I do remember him having a collection of tubes in the garage. Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:45 PM (OGOaV) 127
I bought my niece a scoop shovel, she broke her plastic one shoveling bark dust. I bought myself a bottle corker, apparently made by Ferrari industries.
It doesn't go very fast, but on the other hand it doesn't leak oil so I figure I am winning. Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 10:45 PM (rbvCR) 128
DOOF!!
I put a couple of strings of these up over the jukebox *just for you* https://tinyurl.com/mr7p2xkp Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (rdVOm) 129
120 Well they are kind of small because I am height challenged. Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (ZdaMQ) $995 for shoes??!!?? You must get paid too much for your Sunday ONT work! Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 I just put them on your card. It’s fine. Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (ZdaMQ) 130
There used to be a little-known band of man-eating apes living in the Hollywood Hills. They found Californians especially to their liking, especially around the holidays.
Why? Everyone knows that Yule Gibbons ate fruits, nuts, and flakes. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (IG3/x) 131
Totally OT from this festive gathering, there has been a shooting at Brown University this afternoon and I have stumbled upon the local news broadcast, which I gather has been going on for over five hours now.
In summary, the guy walked out, turned right, and has not been seen again. Nothing further at this point. Five hours of clueless reporters, dumb ass politicians, cop officials desperate to be elsewhere, and constant unsupported about students delicate feelings, and a city changed forever. Fascinating, hadn't watched local news in forever. It's changed, not for the better. We at 56 yet? Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 10:48 PM (sl73Y) 132
Ad agency I worked at gift wrapped hundreds of swag gifts, emergency flashlights with radio and a siren. We installed batteries, tuned radio to client's channel. In shipping all the siren switches clicked on. Hilarity ensued.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 10:48 PM (Kt19C) 133
Good Saturday evening, 'ettes and 'rons, and thanks for the triple-Ds for the ONT.
I remember the original intended disposition of that Kamala bobblehead from Corsicana ... Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (v23vE) 134
Ha, Louboutin! Those are stunning, but my 120 days are well behind me. 85 is bad enough. And I'd ruin the velvet in half an hour.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (Vvh2V) 135
I do love fruitcake, but haven't had any this year. I don't understand the hatred of it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (ynpvh) 136
"I hope you have cozy warm blankets!" Posted by: Piper
ha, yes, I use an electric blanket for winter. And I still have the grid to depend on. But after my electric rates increased about 40% I started burning wood again. And I need the wood cutting exercise, so it's all good. Surprising that my little woodstove can heat the whole house, though back rooms stay around 60. cheers to you Piper. Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2025 10:50 PM (vbXSk) 137
I predict San Franpsycho will be the first to dance with a lampshade on his head tonight.
==== *takes swig of Kahlua from the bottle* Well, here goes nothing! Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:50 PM (OWovX) Posted by: Hangry Hank. at December 13, 2025 10:50 PM (oftw2) 139
Why? Everyone knows that Yule Gibbons ate fruits, nuts, and flakes.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (IG3/x) Hah! Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 10:51 PM (npFr7) 140
138 I was also hoping for some figgy pudding.
I won't go until I get some. Posted by: Hangry Hank. at December 13, 2025 10:50 PM (oftw2) Heh. We'll keep the figgy pudding, let the Brit's eat their spotted dick. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:51 PM (ynpvh) 141
THEN, took the original scented squares and coated the outside. So, if you smelled them before they melted, it would seem A-OK. Then, he placed them back in the original containers. Wrapped the whole deal and put it under the tree for his wife.
================= This is why I love my dogs more than I'll ever love any person. People are asshoe. Sorry, honey. Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at December 13, 2025 10:51 PM (0yLoC) 142
$995 for shoes??!!?? You must get paid too much for your Sunday ONT work!
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 I just put them on your card. It’s fine. Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (ZdaMQ) Haha! I better raise the price on those Club ONT coins. Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (QMAsf) 143
Ad agency I worked at gift wrapped hundreds of swag gifts, emergency flashlights with radio and a siren. We installed batteries, tuned radio to client's channel. In shipping all the siren switches clicked on. Hilarity ensued.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 10:48 PM (Kt19C) One Christmas I worked as a casual for the local USPS sorting office, and a box came through making noises. They evacuated the building and brought in the bomb squad, it was a toy that was shipped with the batteries in. Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (rbvCR) 144
I do love fruitcake, but haven't had any this year. I don't understand the hatred of it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (ynpvh) ==== Those people must hate Christmas. And America. Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (OWovX) 145
Howdy morons!
*plops next to Rat, gives DDS and COMM smooches* I’m pooped. Stayed up until after midnight yapping with an old college buddy who contacted me kind of out of the blue. Super fun. My ugly Christmas sweatshirt won last year. It’s a kitty wearing a Santa hat riding a T. rex with tacos and pizza slices orbiting around. Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (mT+6a) 146
Im reading George William Rutlers The Stories of Hymns right now. At the end of his short summary of Edward Caswells Hark! A Thrilling Voice is Sounding he added:
Out of respect for the sensibilities of overreaching choristers, whose number is legion, Caswells opening verse was altered for its second printing in 1852 from the line first published three years before: Hark, an awful voice is sounding Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (EXyHK) 147
Sleighbells ring ... Are you raaaaacists listening?
Posted by: Adriane the Not Cynical Enough Critic . . . at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (3ZUWJ) 148
Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
I've seen that setup a few times. Most likely one TV had a working picture tube and the other one had a working audio circuit. Tune 'em both to the same channel and call it good. Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (lUFok) 149
34 Ha, Louboutin! Those are stunning, but my 120 days are well behind me. 85 is bad enough. And I'd ruin the velvet in half an hour.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (Vvh2V) My calfskin 100s still look new, I have to take a deep breath and pray there will be seating if I wear them. 😂 85s are still nothing to sneeze at, ma’am! However, my 70s need new heel tips again, they are classic and my go to, I can run in that height! Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (ZdaMQ) 150
59 Some Rat
What am I?! Chopped liver?! Sheesh...all these years I generously shared my wobbly table... Now I have to sit at the end of the bar on this wobbly bar stool, where it always smells like stale beer and cigs... Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (5lbLe) 151
Glad to see all of you here at The Club Christmas Party!
Posted by: scampydog ******** And your tardy excuse is ? Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (IQ6Gq) 152
I don't know if we're talking about greatest Christmas Presents ever received but for me it was a Garmin 760 car GPS from my Anonymous wife. Since I'm kind of a 'map' guy it was perfect!
As a bonus I got to hear such golden oldies as 'you don't need your stupid GPS to go to the grocery store' and 'are you going to go where I tell you or where your stupid GPS tells you?' Good times....good times.... Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (QGaXH) 153
The top one was color or had better reception for UHF stations.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (R86kT) 154
DOOF!!
I put a couple of strings of these up over the jukebox *just for you* https://tinyurl.com/mr7p2xkp Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (rdVOm) Thanks, JQ! You're awesome! Take a nice long break and go mingle. Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:54 PM (QMAsf) 155
I'm beginning to think that we can fund Club ONT for a long time by selling the contents of Piper's shoe closet.
Posted by: TRex - fund raising dino at December 13, 2025 10:54 PM (IQ6Gq) 156
someone got a little TV for his own room! What a Christmas.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 10:54 PM (rbvCR) 157
Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 10:48 PM (sl73Y)
==== That first news conference a few hours ago was very contentless. They won't say much until they catch the guy. My guess is frustrated Chinese engineering student. Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:55 PM (OWovX) 158
Piper, those shoes look fabulous! And they cost only $5.00 short of a grand! But can you actually stand and walk about for any appreciable length of time in them? Just curious…
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 10:55 PM (075ei) 159
And your tardy excuse is ?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba --------- Was measuring a certain cobs yard for a certain gift mentioned in the cintent. Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 10:55 PM (41CYW) 160
OK, and where is this Hobo Santa? Must have heard he was going to be seated outside and thought twice about that...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (IQ6Gq) 161
As a bonus I got to hear such golden oldies as 'you don't need your stupid GPS to go to the grocery store'
I just used GPS to go to the grocery store yesterday. Didnt need it, but sometimes I do. It knows the current traffic. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (EXyHK) 162
Content. Damned phone
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (41CYW) 163
I remember the original intended disposition of that Kamala bobblehead from Corsicana ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (v23vE) There may or may not still be plans like that for said bobblehead that may or may not be in my range bag in my basement. Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (QMAsf) 164
What am I?! Chopped liver?!
Sheesh...all these years I generously shared my wobbly table... Now I have to sit at the end of the bar on this wobbly bar stool, where it always smells like stale beer and cigs... Posted by: COMountainMarie Sweetie! See #70! Sheesh. Nurse, DDS, go fetch Marie. Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (TfUTr) 165
Merry Christmas everyone!
Thanks to everyone who put this party together! We put up colored and white icicle lights on the porch this evening. We had quite a bit of snow but it has melted away. But still, it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas. Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 10:58 PM (f7Gew) 166
And your tardy excuse is ?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba --------- Was measuring a certain cobs yard for a certain gift mentioned in the cintent. Posted by: scampydog ********* Like the dogs wouldn't notice you in the yard....remember, be nice - less than 2 weeks til the big day and the Big Guy is still keeping his Nice/Naughty list, and checking it twice! Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 10:58 PM (IQ6Gq) Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:59 PM (rdVOm) 168
Dear Santa,
Please bring Doggo a new phone for Christmas. His current one has an awful keyboard. Thank you, TRex Posted by: TRex - gift advocate dino at December 13, 2025 10:59 PM (IQ6Gq) 169
I think my Pigalles are 100s. Strictly for the bedroom at this point.
Gianvito Rossi is my go to for pumps now, or LK Bennet. Such is life at 62! 😁 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 10:59 PM (Vvh2V) 170
10 Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees? Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM ------- She has to walk to the toilet to spit. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 11:00 PM (L78T1) Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:00 PM (nhCoE) 172
Colored lights are for Christmas that is festive and psychedelic. White lights are for Christmas that is magical and psychedelic.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 11:01 PM (OWovX) 173
All y'all who think a thousand is a lot for shoes had best not ask about handbags! 😂😂😂
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:01 PM (Vvh2V) 174
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10 Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees? Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM ------- She has to walk to the toilet to spit. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 11:00 PM (L78T1) So the saying "Mean people suck; nice people swallow" is true? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:02 PM (ynpvh) Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 11:03 PM (mT+6a) 176
Madame Kestrel, how lovely to see you, and looking so fetching!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:03 PM (Vvh2V) 177
168 Dear Santa,
Please bring Doggo a new phone for Christmas. His current one has an awful keyboard. Thank you, TRex Posted by: TRex - gift advocate dino ---------- Thank you! Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 11:04 PM (41CYW) 178
173 All y'all who think a thousand is a lot for shoes had best not ask about handbags! 😂😂😂
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:01 PM (Vvh2V) How many times will you use it? When my wife wanted to make a significant purchase, that was always my question. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:05 PM (ynpvh) 179
54 By popular demand (mostly Ben Had demand), we're doing the same theme next week! The Hobby Thread email box is open for submissions...
Posted by: TRex - ornamental dino at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (IQ6Gq) Great! I had two more I couldn't find in time for today as we're just getting the tree decorated (drinkerated) today. On a related note - Svengoolie is just coming on in my time zone. Dennis Hopper in 'Duel'. Apparently not a Christmas movie. Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 11:07 PM (QGaXH) 180
Well, I'm about done. Tomorrow I prep for surgery on Monday. Night all.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:07 PM (ynpvh) 181
Whoa! I made Top 10ish Comments for the first time!
Musical interlude: https://youtu.be/7YvAYIJSSZY Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2025 11:08 PM (GvwDZ) 182
I'll regift if it's something someone asked for specifically.
I will pass it along unwrapped with it's Origin Story in addition to my original gift if I think it's something they would enjoy. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:08 PM (Vvh2V) 183
How many times will you use it? When my wife wanted to make a significant purchase, that was always my question.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) Sorta like us buying a transmission jack. Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 11:08 PM (TfUTr) 184
>>>@91 My favorite cookies in the world are snowball cookies. I might make some this year. Cutting out carbs but it will be my one treat. You can make "plain" which are great but also mint, or cocoa, or orange, they are like a cookie canvas to make almost anything. Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (3uBP9)
================ Greetings, banana dream ... I just finished making 9 dozen of these to take to a cookie swap tomorrow ... Because of the many steps involved -- make dough, chill dough, portion dough, roll portions into ball shapes, bake cookies, coat baked cookies with 10X sugar while warm and, finally, recoat cookies with 10X sugar once they're completely cooled -- I usually perform the tasks over two days instead of one to ensure I can carefully monitor the cookies baking and now send some freshly-baked samples through the USB port for you to enjoy tonight! Posted by: Kathy at December 13, 2025 11:09 PM (zuKcR) 185
Well, I'm about done. Tomorrow I prep for surgery on Monday. Night all.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:07 PM (ynpvh) Night, Jim. May the surgery be uneventful, and successful. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 11:09 PM (npFr7) Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 11:09 PM (Kt19C) 187
42 To kick off the White Elephant gift game, whoever has comment number 56, please collect the first gift (pictured below) - your very own Kamala Harris bobblehead What number gets the joey biden windup toy that just wanders around the tree? Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (TfUTr) ---- I remember there was a model train sold in the 60s where you could put a pellet down the locomotive smokestack to make real smoke. Maybe a Biden model where you slip a pellet inside the back of its pants? Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 11:10 PM (L78T1) 188
So, I understand I won a Kumala bobblehead.
I'm soooo excited! Dino has my address, so I expect this ASAP! It's everything I wanted and hoped for😛! Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 11:10 PM (5lbLe) 189
169 I think my Pigalles are 100s. Strictly for the bedroom at this point.
Gianvito Rossi is my go to for pumps now, or LK Bennet. Such is life at 62! 😁 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor Dress shoes for me are patent leather Birkenstocks. Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 11:11 PM (mT+6a) 190
jim (in Kalifornia)
We're gonna split up your stuff you know. (I keed, keed) Good luck. Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats Dibs on the transmission jack. Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 11:11 PM (TfUTr) 191
Content. Damned phone
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (41CYW) - It is a good trait to be content with one's damned phone. Good for you! Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2025 11:12 PM (GvwDZ) 192
169 I think my Pigalles are 100s. Strictly for the bedroom at this point.
Gianvito Rossi is my go to for pumps now, or LK Bennet. Such is life at 62! 😁 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor since your soles are unscuffed you could return them to the store Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:14 PM (4hlpI) 193
158 Piper, those shoes look fabulous! And they cost only $5.00 short of a grand! But can you actually stand and walk about for any appreciable length of time in them? Just curious…
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 10:55 PM (075ei) I could only manage a 120 if they are a platform toe. 100 is my limit in a normal pump and even those I have to remind myself of the Louboutin quote- they are made to make your foot look good, not feel good! Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:15 PM (ZdaMQ) Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 11:15 PM (Kt19C) 195
Dibs on the transmission jack.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 11:11 PM (TfUTr) You can't have the transmission. And don't call him Jack. Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 11:15 PM (QMAsf) 196
So the saying "Mean people suck; nice people swallow" is true?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:02 PM (ynpvh) You shouldn't swallow mouth wash Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM (rbvCR) Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM (4hlpI) 198
Nurse! Tammy! It's good to see you! Thanks for the seat. I intend to observe all the shenanigans and expect it will be quite entertaining.
I did bring some chex party mix, extra Worcestershire sauce and butter. Enjoy! Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM (f7Gew) 199
Merry Christmas, Hoard!
Spent a couple hours with Little to see if we could view some of the Geminid meteor shower. He saw three before the clouds rolled in.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM (nbLIj) 200
at this age most women are buying sump pumps
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM (4hlpI) 201
"In related news, plays on the jukebox are free tonight."
Sneaks up to jukebox. Plays "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer." Plays it again. Then again. Repeat 15 times. Plays Lindsey Sterling's "Carol of the Bells" Plays "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer" five more times. Posted by: tankdemon Whew. After that, we can get away with anything, right? I didn't think the jukebox would even have my kind of Christmas music, but..... https://youtu.be/emQR5uPavic Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:17 PM (nhCoE) 202
The Christmas morning photo with the red wagon...why is there a little tv on top of the big tv?
Not a huge fan of punch, altho I own two punch bowls & ladles that I never use. Because you never know when you might need these things. Once, on a college camping trip at the end of spring semester, SOMEONE (not me) must have put Everclear in the punch. Granted, I was there for whatever in the way of drinking (or smoking), but not much of a punch drinker, either, except at weddings where they were often non-alcoholic. I prided myself in keeping it together drinking at parties. I was the last one standing & still cracking jokes. Not that night in the wilderness, bro. I suddenly felt harfy (which is rare), stood up,& l and almost face planted into the camp fire. Which would have been bad in any circumstance to land in a fire on your face, much less hours from a trauma center or hospital. I lurched over a friend's truck, & for reasons unknown, went under his truck to puke. Another friend found me there, as I guess he cared enough to look for me. I remember his face asking me why I was under the truck and I told him I had no idea.Eventually I got out from under the truck. Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 11:19 PM (WONhk) 203
Where can I find once ubiquitous fruitcake?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 11:19 PM (Kt19C) 204
Rhode Island will have broadsides of the Brown U. shooting suspect up at all the inns and taverns by noon tomorrow. All carriages coming out of the city of Providence will be subject to search by duly authorized peace officers until further notice. Residents of Providence and surrounding farms are advised to keep loaded muskets at hand. Further updates will be provided in the monthly Gazette.
Posted by: Wm. Peabody at December 13, 2025 11:20 PM (qUkBO) 205
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:05 PM (ynpvh)
That is exactly how I justify it. Some of the older bags from luxury houses were of such quality that they will likely be passed down to granddaughters. Cost per wear atvthat point will be pennies! I'm glad I bought my bags when they quality was still there. Luxury is no longer worth the cost. Hermes is still very good quality, but I dont care for too many of their bags. I have a Kelly and a Picotin. Don't care for Birkins. I have heard very horrifying stories about how the obtain the skins for their bags, and had I heard them prior to buying mine, I would have researched more and definitely not bought them, if the rumors were true. Not long before Covid, I was looking for another Chanel Boy bag, and could not believe the decline in quality. Strings hanging off, crooked stitching.... for the amount they charge ( more now!) that bag needs to be pristine! Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:20 PM (Vvh2V) Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:21 PM (RoO7G) 207
Gianvito Rossi is my go to for pumps now, or LK Bennet. Such is life at 62! 😁
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor I have 1 pair of Gianvito Rossi pumps, but they are red so I don’t wear them often. I don’t wear any of them often anymore since I live in leggings and socks now. 😢 Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:21 PM (ZdaMQ) 208
Oh my gosh, it is so nice to see so many people, Grateful, I am glad that you liked the meatballs, I so enjoyed meeting you and TRex at the MoMe.
JQ, you have outdone yourself, the Santa suit was hung on a hook in the foyer to the restroom (so tastefully decorated), I notice that is missing, we need Santa to make an appearance soon. Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 11:21 PM (0nHVk) 209
If my time in AK taught me anything it is that xtratuf boots go with any attire. 😁
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:22 PM (f7Gew) Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 11:22 PM (EXyHK) 211
Tapping the egg nog reserve has been approved. Repeat - more egg nog has been authorized.
Club ONT Management Posted by: Whelmed by bountiful egg nog at December 13, 2025 11:23 PM (IQ6Gq) 212
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 11:19 PM (WONhk)
===== Can we take a selfie? Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 11:23 PM (OWovX) 213
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:14 PM (4hlpI)
They are not unscuffed, Sir! I am not one to lie back and think of England. 😉😉😉 How have you been? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:23 PM (Vvh2V) Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:24 PM (4hlpI) 215
They are not unscuffed, Sir! I am not one to lie back and think of England. 😉😉😉
How have you been? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor MissTammy! We are good, how are you and Thor? Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:25 PM (4hlpI) 216
How many times will you use it? When my wife wanted to make a significant purchase, that was always my question.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) IKR? I mean, she drives a car, she uses tires all the time. That should make a good gift, I'm thinking. Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:25 PM (RoO7G) 217
It was an expression of my esteem at her exploits.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 11:26 PM (OWovX) 218
Good evening, miscreants. I had a mostly domestic day, though I did go out for breakfast and went to REI to get some of those traction chains for my insulated hunting boots. We haven't had snow yet, but we did get a couple of big storms last year and I like to keep warm clothes in the car in case I need to walk home.
The hell-hound is staring at me like "get off the damned iPad and take me for a walk!" Posted by: PabloD at December 13, 2025 11:26 PM (Epuwl) Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:27 PM (4hlpI) 220
179 On a related note - Svengoolie is just coming on in my time zone. Dennis Hopper in 'Duel'. Apparently not a Christmas movie.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 11:07 PM (QGaXH) Correction - Dennis Weaver not Dennis Hopper. I don't know what I was thinking. Apologies for any inconvenience caused. Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (QGaXH) 221
211 Tapping the egg nog reserve has been approved. Repeat - more egg nog has been authorized.
Club ONT Management Posted by: Whelmed by bountiful egg nog at December 13, 2025 11:23 PM (IQ6Gq) Aye aye, cap'n! Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (RoO7G) 222
I didn't see this mentioned yet. News the Horde will appreciate:
National Guard member Andrew Wolfe, who was shot near the White House in Washington, D.C. in late November, has been released from the hospital, NewsNation reported. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (GvwDZ) 223
That should make a good gift, I'm thinking. Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:25 PM (RoO7G) Do not do this! Your friend, Piper Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (ZdaMQ) 224
It was an expression of my esteem at her exploits.
Posted by: San I mean physically , how does "we" do "self" Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (4hlpI) 225
Ho, Ho, Ho, Merry Christmas Hodelings! Please keep the reindeer away from the moose out front - I think they were planning some type of rodeo. Let's see what we have for all the good people, and yes.. even that Disco character.
Posted by: Santa at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (41CYW) Posted by: TRex - art critic dino at December 13, 2025 11:29 PM (IQ6Gq) 227
I have a few pairs in suede, Pecan is a good neutral!
But I don't wear them in the sticks. I ought to pass them on to someone who would get more use put of them, but it's kind of gross offering used shoes, even to family! 😂 And I swear, no one dresses much for work anymore. Unless you're in finance or law, I just don't see anyone dressing up. Even at Boeing, when I worked at corporate level, unless you were VP or above, it was Business Casual. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:30 PM (Vvh2V) 228
Do not do this!
Your friend, Piper Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (ZdaMQ) So where were you for her last birthday? Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:30 PM (RoO7G) 229
I mean physically , how does "we" do "self"
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (4hlpI You are about to get coal, mister. 😂 Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:31 PM (ZdaMQ) 230
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Hiya Nurse R! Hiya DDS! In fact, hiya all youz Morons! Great party! Thanks you crazy Ds! Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 11:33 PM (5lbLe) 231
Kestrel, chex mix sounds divine, especially with the extra good stuff! Everyone nowadays seems to add sweet things, and I don't care for it.
Mine is spicy. Not overly hot, just lots of good spices and I double those ( double the butter and Worcestershire, too!) and the nuts! Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:34 PM (Vvh2V) 232
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (GvwDZ)
Thank you for sharing that, wonderful news, indeed! Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:35 PM (Vvh2V) 233
Were we supposed to dress for this party? I am in my nightgown. I do have a Christmas nightgown but I am not wearing it tonight.Will get my tiara.
The only Christmas party where things did go wonky was an ED party. The group of docs (about 10 of them) were known to throw these and be asked by the hotels on the beach not to return. Many had rooms there (with spouses or girlfriends). We lived on the island about 5min from this hotel. There was a DJ and dancing. One doc was daring another doc to shots of peppermint schnapps. My husband observed me deciding to use my booze tickets (until then, champagne) to compete with my ED doc buddies. It was a sneaky deal on my system, and my husband said at one point I was dancing alone. We decided to leave & I was feeling a bit off balance but fine. I WAS FINE I told people leaving as well. At home I collapsed into bed and he knew then I was pretty bombed. Got my make up off ( never sleep with it on as a supermodel), & changed. Asked him for a glass of milk as I was going to read for awhile.He slept in another room Woke the next day with the lamp still on and the milk still there. With a massive headache. The last time I had a hangover. Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 11:36 PM (WONhk) 234
198 I did bring some chex party mix,
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM *** Thank you! Somehow that eluded our party planning list. Wouldn't be a proper Christmas party without it! Posted by: TRex - breakfast cereal dino at December 13, 2025 11:36 PM (IQ6Gq) 235
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:25 PM (4hlpI)
Getting old. It's been a rough year. How are you and yours? Have you taken her back to Gotham yet? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:37 PM (Vvh2V) 236
Hiya Nurse R! Hiya DDS!
In fact, hiya all youz Morons! Great party! Thanks you crazy Ds! Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 11:33 PM (5lbLe) Hey there, ladies! *removes flask from ugly sweater pouch* Who wants a swig? Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 11:38 PM (QMAsf) 237
Barkeep, I was just thinking of a flaming rum punch. Off with you know and be lively.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 13, 2025 11:38 PM (R86kT) 238
Getting old. It's been a rough year. How are you and yours? Have you taken her back to Gotham yet? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor We are there frequently, but not enough to get dinged for taxes. Mostly, we are in Houston now. Everything is good with us. Not sure we are staying in Houston, it is nice but everything is too far from whereever you are Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:40 PM (4hlpI) 239
Hi, Debby! Glad you like the decorations!
Was outside giving water, carrots & oats to the reindeer (and making sure they stayed away from our moose, LOL) Hang on, got a tray of jalapeno poppers to bring out... Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 11:41 PM (rdVOm) 240
* continues leaning on the jukebox *
https://youtu.be/FvaL7M2JE4Y This thing really does have all the Christmas songs. Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:42 PM (nhCoE) 241
Barkeep, I was just thinking of a flaming rum punch. Off with you know and be lively.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson ---------- You know, I was just chatting with a friend this afternoon about 151 proof rum-- tastes too strong, the only thing it's really good for is floating on top of drinks and *lighting* Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 11:43 PM (rdVOm) 242
You know, I was just chatting with a friend this afternoon about 151 proof rum-- tastes too strong, the only thing it's really good for is floating on top of drinks and *lighting*
Posted by: JQ 75% alcohol? It probably has uses in first aid, or as fuel..... Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:46 PM (nhCoE) 243
Some good news from D.C.
President Trump signed an executive order, and this is verbatim, called the "Assuring the Security of the State of Qatar." Quote: "Over the years, the United States and the State of Qatar have been bound together by close cooperation, shared interests, and the close relationship between our armed forces. The state of Qatar has hosted United States forces, enabled critical security operations, and stood as a steadfast ally in pursuit of peace, stability, and prosperity both in the Middle East and abroad, including as a mediator that has assisted the United States' attempts to resolve significant regional and global conflicts." Listen to this: "In recognition of this history and in light of the continuing threats to the state of Qatar posed by foreign aggression, it is the policy of the U.S. to guarantee the security and territorial integrity of the State of Qatar against external attack. The United States shall regard any armed attack on the territory sovereignty or critical infrastructure of the State of Qatar as a threat to the peace and security of the United States." It's great have another close ally in the Middle East! Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:47 PM (2NGiN) 244
Mikeski-- well of course first aid and fuel, but as far as beverages... yeah... light it, burn it off. Heh.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 11:48 PM (rdVOm) 245
I did not bring food, but I did bring Scotch. Dalwhinnie, and I've been there on our son's tour of the Highland distilleries. I don't remember a whole lot but it was pretty and I had fun.
Does this count? Baby,it's cold outside. But no snow to speak of...oh, sure, up in the mountains. But I need it in my yard, stat! I am trying to make the best of it but I am super mad that states like Indiana have snow and we don't here in ski country. We need it for water next summer, so it is not simply because I am having a tantrum for a white Christmas. My husband tells me that there's a chance. I think he's only saying this to keep me from flipping out. Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 11:48 PM (WONhk) 246
It's great have another close ally in the Middle East! Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:47 PM (2NGiN) First up for karaoke! ☝️ Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:48 PM (ZdaMQ) 247
The United States shall regard any armed attack on the territory sovereignty or critical infrastructure of the State of Qatar as a threat to the peace and security of the United States."
It's great have another close ally in the Middle East! in other words he had to have an executive order to warn Israel off bombing them again. Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:49 PM (4hlpI) 248
https://youtu.be/FvaL7M2JE4Y
This thing really does have all the Christmas songs. --- Pretty melody. Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:50 PM (f7Gew) 249
Jukebox is set for "free plays" for the next hour!
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 11:51 PM (rdVOm) 250
Good night everyone! It was lovely to see you! Be kind to JQ and for goodness sake, don’t use the tinsel as garnish!
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:52 PM (ZdaMQ) 251
Spicy Chex mix sounds good. I'll add Trinidad pepper sauce to my next batch.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:52 PM (f7Gew) 252
This thing really does have all the Christmas songs.
Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:42 PM (nhCoE) I'll just slip this into the carousel.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARX463itqf4 Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 11:52 PM (nbLIj) 253
Sorry I'm late. Had to watch the last night of the National Finals Rodeo. Unlike tankdemon's stuff, mine is true.
Nice party! Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 13, 2025 11:52 PM (47diA) 254
Good night Piper
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:53 PM (f7Gew) 255
'Night, Piper! Thanks for joining us!
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 11:53 PM (rdVOm) 256
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Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 13, 2025 11:52 PM *** Does the red truck ever double as Santa's sleigh? Posted by: TRex - curious dino at December 13, 2025 11:54 PM (IQ6Gq) 257
I'm headed out to the firepit for a smoke, I'll see if Doof is still passing that flask around. Whoever made the cheese ball, it is delicious and addictive. Thank you.
{{{COMM}}} Merry Christmas friend. Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 11:55 PM (0nHVk) 258
JQ, I will have a glass of the Jingle Juice. Or is it self serve? It sounds delicious!
Anyone want to sing "We three kings" with me?...after a few more drinks... Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:56 PM (f7Gew) 259
Does the red truck ever double as Santa's sleigh?
Let me think about that . . . . . . nope! It could, if any of my grandkids would come around here for Christmas! Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 13, 2025 11:56 PM (47diA) 260
Hang on, got a tray of jalapeno poppers to bring out...
Oh! Yum...I was hoping someone remembered those! I love the chex mix, but I'm getting the side eye from folks because I've been stuffing my pie hole... Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 11:57 PM (5lbLe) 261
I hate pergolas maybe more than any other structure, why even bother
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:58 PM (4hlpI) 262
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:40 PM (4hlpI)
I think what you mean is, it's nice, but it's too fucking hot and humid! 😂😂😂 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:59 PM (Vvh2V) 263
***Question for those what make Chex Mix at home***
Must one use actual Chex brand cereal? Or can one get away with store-brand imitation chex? And, do you care to share a recipe? Mom used to make a mix she called "Nuts n Bolts" that had a several types of chex, pretzel sticks, spanish peanuts and cheerios... the recipe is gone, but I'm sure the seasonings included Worcestershire sauce & garlic powder + I don't know what else. It was great! Thanks in advance! Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:00 AM (rdVOm) 264
I want to hear Patty Smith's We Three Kings, and Robert Earle Keene's Merry Christmas From the Family!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 14, 2025 12:01 AM (Vvh2V) 265
I think what you mean is, it's nice, but it's too fucking hot and humid! 😂😂😂
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor I am good with that, I am a bit disappointed in what a bunch of wuses Houstonians are. When its 105 and humid I am driving around with my windows down, air off , but the Houstonians have air on , windows up. wth Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:01 AM (4hlpI) Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:02 AM (rdVOm) Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 14, 2025 12:02 AM (5lbLe) 268
in other words he had to have an executive order to warn Israel off bombing them again.
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:49 PM (4hlpI) Or maybe . . . Just maybe, mind you . . . Trump is as antisemitic as I've been told Tucker Carlson is. [Taps chin, thoughtfully] Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:02 AM (rbvCR) 269
Thanks in advance!
Posted by: JQ at buy a box, follow the directions. Same as with chocolate chip cookies; buy a bag, follow directions. Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (4hlpI) 270
Sorry I can't make it to the party. I'm at work. I am watching, thanks to our friends at the NSA (thanks, Bob)! Put those two sad downers at the end of the bar and give them shots of everclear. They'll quiet down soon enough. Or get arrested.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (rii+a) 271
I hate pergolas maybe more than any other structure, why even bother
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:58 PM (4hlpI) He was my favorite character in LOTR Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (rbvCR) 272
https://youtu.be/P37xPiRz1sg?si=WBBrOxHHF0Fs4jVE
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (Vvh2V) 273
> , but I'm sure the seasonings included Worcestershire sauce & garlic powder + I don't know what else. It was great!
Thanks in advance! Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:00 AM (rdVOm) In my family, normal Chex mix included wash-your-sister-sauce (as we called it). Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 14, 2025 12:04 AM (IG3/x) Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:04 AM (4hlpI) Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:04 AM (4hlpI) 276
This is my personal favorite version of We Three Kings...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrn78V0AzEY Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 12:05 AM (nbLIj) 277
*peeks in*
Dang. Late again. Any eggnog left? Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 12:05 AM (2WIwB) 278
Chex Mix: generic "Chex" cereal is fine. Corn Chex, rice Chex, pretzels, peanuts. Sauce is melted butter, Worcestershire sauce, and seasonings. The recipe used to be on the back of the box of cereal.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 12:05 AM (f7Gew) 279
he's a nazi , definitely
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:04 AM (4hlpI) Well, sure. Anyone who doesn't kick Nick Fuentes in the balls after inviting him to travel cross country to his house to talk is clearly a Natzi. Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:06 AM (rbvCR) 280
Well, sure. Anyone who doesn't kick Nick Fuentes in the balls after inviting him to travel cross country to his house to talk is clearly a Natzi.
Posted by: Kin it is not even worth discussing , if youre not openly a nazi, youre a secret nazi Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:07 AM (4hlpI) 281
Made a loaf of banana bread tonight to use up the last couple of bananas from a bunch.
The house smells great, if not particularly Christmasy. I'll take half of it to a neighbor tomorrow so my diabetic ass isn't tempted to eat it all. Has anyone ever tried soaking banana bread in rum? Something akin to a fruitcake? I'll bet it would be good. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 14, 2025 12:07 AM (IG3/x) Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:07 AM (rdVOm) 283
Moose out front shoulda told you Morons there's no such thing as a Wafffle House.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 14, 2025 12:08 AM (ULPxl) Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:09 AM (4hlpI) 285
Ever notice that any fucking retard who starts jabbering about the "NRA", or "Fox News" is...a fucking retard?
I don't like the NRA, sport. You know why? Because they're far too conciliatory. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 14, 2025 12:09 AM (IG3/x) 286
Did anyone get a 'bingo" yet?
Posted by: TRex - bingo was his name-oh at December 14, 2025 12:09 AM (IQ6Gq) 287
This is my personal favorite version of We Three Kings...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrn78V0AzEY Posted by: Joe Kidd Uhgg. Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 12:10 AM (mlg/3) 288
In an odd twist, the mercedes dealership in our nabe sits behind a waffle house, or vice versa
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:10 AM (4hlpI) 289
Happy Christmas Party, jolly onters!
At our work holiday dinner I indulged in irish coffee with whipped cream Baileycious! Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 12:10 AM (dE3DB) 290
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 12:05 AM
--------- Thanks. I can find plenty of recipes online and can experiment. Was just wondering if anyone had a favorite variation of the original. Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:11 AM (rdVOm) 291
Thanks. I can find plenty of recipes online and can experiment. Was just wondering if anyone had a favorite variation of the original. Posted by: JQ go with the box, it is the smart thing. Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:12 AM (4hlpI) 292
277 This is my personal favorite version of We Three Kings...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrn78V0AzEY Posted by: Joe Kidd Let's sing! Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 12:12 AM (f7Gew) 293
Everyone will be a nazi for 15 min.
Posted by: zombie Andy Warhol is a nazi at December 14, 2025 12:12 AM (rii+a) 294
*buys drink for our handsome bouncer*
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:13 AM (rdVOm) 295
Welcome, vmom!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:14 AM (rdVOm) 296
I havent tried it yet but there is a Chex mix in The Deplorable Gourmet.
Country Boys Moms Homemade Chex Mix, page 158. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 14, 2025 12:15 AM (EXyHK) 297
Any eggnog left?
Posted by: Diogenes youre gonna have to lick it off the strippers Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:09 AM (4hlpI) *** Huh? Is that like pin the tail on the donkey? Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 12:15 AM (2WIwB) 298
Diogenes, welcome to the Club ONT Christmas Party. You called it, Wazzu going to a bowl game. Lost their coach, but going to a bowl.
Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 12:16 AM (41CYW) 299
Was just wondering if anyone had a favorite variation of the original.
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:11 AM (rdVOm) Soak the whole thing in rum. Strain off the rum and reserve. Drink the rum. You no longer care what the chex mix tastes like. Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 12:16 AM (KC4YG) 300
Country Boy’s Mom’s Homemade Chex Mix, page 158.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair ----------- Thank you! I will look it up. Why didn't I consult the DG? *shrugs* Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:16 AM (rdVOm) 301
Thanks in advance!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:00 AM (rdVOm) This is the recipe I use. I add more Worcestershire because I like to. https://tinyurl.com/4vw2rmfp Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM (6p0Jv) 302
JQ. I must applaud your bartending skills👍!
Of course the night is young, and the crazy people haven't even shown up yet...we'll, at least not all of them(us)🤪... I think I have a buck or two. I'll try to remember to leave you a tip💕... Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM (5lbLe) 303
210 Where can I find once ubiquitous fruitcake? Next year in Corsicana! Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 11:22 PM (EXyHK) LOL! I wonder how many readers “get it”. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM (k5cxK) 304
it was in vented by the guys at chex to sell more chex, why would you think somebody has a more desirable recipe?
chex has more money, more research, more motivation to get the best recipe for chex mix Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:19 AM (4hlpI) Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:20 AM (4hlpI) 306
271 I hate pergolas maybe more than any other structure, why even bother
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:58 PM (4hlpI) He was my favorite character in LOTR Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (rbvCR) I admit I always thought Pergolas were pretty gay. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:22 AM (k5cxK) 307
Here you go, JQ.
3 C each: rice, corn, wheat chex, and pretzels. 1TBS worcestershire sauce 6 TBS melted butter 1TBS seasoned salt 1/2 tsp onion powder 2/3 tsp garlic powder 1/2 TBS Frank's hot sauce 200 degree oven. Bake 1 hour, shaking/stirring every 15-20 mins Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 12:22 AM (41CYW) 308
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM
---------- THANK YOU!!! *buys drink for Mary* Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:22 AM (rdVOm) 309
it was in vented by the guys at chex to sell more chex, why would you think somebody has a more desirable recipe?
chex has more money, more research, more motivation to get the best recipe for chex mix Posted by: n Don't think outside the box. The box exists because it holds all the good answers that everyone else found. Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 12:24 AM (nhCoE) 310
Don't think outside the box. The box exists because it holds all the good answers that everyone else found.
Posted by: m Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:24 AM (4hlpI) 311
Diogenes, welcome to the Club ONT Christmas Party. You called it, Wazzu going to a bowl game. Lost their coach, but going to a bowl.
Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 12:16 AM (41CYW) Yup! The potato bowl! Woohoo. And we have a new coach and I think he's going to do well. Hey!!! There's extra nog in this eggnog!!! Me likey!!! Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 12:25 AM (2WIwB) 312
Ooooo... add hot sauce...
Thanks to you too, Doggo! Hey, I found these lights for you. Felt bad that only Dino & Disco got their own... https://tinyurl.com/tzbzk2sb Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:25 AM (rdVOm) 313
Don't think outside the box. The box exists because it holds all the good answers that everyone else found.
Posted by: m it is chex mix, not woven square cereal made by dog food company mix, maybe they have some insight into this smiley face Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:26 AM (4hlpI) 314
I remember in senior year of high school, among a certain crowd you could be king of cool if you secured a flask of Bacardi 151. Yeah it tasted awful but you had it, they was what counted.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:27 AM (k5cxK) 315
Hey, I found these lights for you. Felt bad that only Dino & Disco got their own...
https://tinyurl.com/tzbzk2sb Posted by: JQ --------- Heh, those lights are awesome! Thank you. Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 12:28 AM (41CYW) 316
I remember in senior year of high school, among a certain crowd you could be king of cool if you secured a flask of Bacardi 151. Yeah it tasted awful but you had it, they was what counted.
Posted by: Tom Se janitors? Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:30 AM (4hlpI) 317
I remember in senior year of high school, among a certain crowd you could be king of cool if you secured a flask of Bacardi 151. Yeah it tasted awful but you had it, they was what counted.
Posted by: Tom Servo --------- Oh, I remember choking down a few swallows of same.. and then sniffing up the contents of a big black capsule.. and then going rollerskating. WOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:30 AM (rdVOm) Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:33 AM (rdVOm) 319
Let's sing!
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 12:12 AM (f7Gew) The line about myrrh always gets me. It's a spice used for embalming and that part of the song is a reminder of grim mission ahead for Mary's baby. It's perfectly rendered by the singer here.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 12:36 AM (nbLIj) 320
***adds more credits to jukebox***
Yeah baby! Let's dance! *face plants on dance floor* Woops.... Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 14, 2025 12:38 AM (5lbLe) 321
***adds more credits to jukebox***
Free plays continue, for our lovely party!! Posted by: JQ https://youtu.be/wIQQDYaoWpc Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 12:38 AM (nhCoE) 322
We need to add Qatar to our Christmas card list.
Pour me a double, make it neat, bartender. Going back to lurking. Posted by: PartyCrasher at December 14, 2025 12:38 AM (4NeXw) Posted by: mindful webworker - tis the season at December 14, 2025 12:41 AM (lbDMw) Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:42 AM (rdVOm) 325
Not a fan of Qatar. Don't trust. We'll see how it goes, though.
Posted by: JQ you have to wonder why it was necessary to have an eo now Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:47 AM (4hlpI) 326
It's not Christmas until we have the Dropkick Murphys..
https://youtu.be/qTx-sdR6Yzk Posted by: mindful webworker - tis the season at December 14, 2025 12:41 AM (lbDMw) A classic. I think we're ready for some El Vez,,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irDjAMCAxqo Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 12:50 AM (nbLIj) 327
I hate pergolas maybe more than any other structure, why even bother
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:58 PM (4hlpI) Wasn't Pergolas the Elf who invented composite flooring? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 12:54 AM (npFr7) Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:55 AM (4hlpI) 329
LOL! I wonder how many readers “get it”.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM (k5cxK) A famous product of the Collin Street Bakery there. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 12:59 AM (npFr7) 330
I just heard that there are some cots out back to take a "rest". I'm gonna go see. Maybe come back around comment 500...
"I drink too much. The last time I gave a urine sample it had an olive in it." - Rodney Dangerfield Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 14, 2025 01:02 AM (5lbLe) 331
Not a fan of Qatar. Don't trust. We'll see how it goes, though.
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:42 AM (rdVOm) Meh. Qatar isn't much bigger than a WalMart parking lot. It's all performative. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 01:03 AM (npFr7) Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2025 01:05 AM (YGRGv) 333
The line about myrrh always gets me. It's a spice used for embalming and that part of the song is a reminder of grim mission ahead for Mary's baby. It's perfectly rendered by the singer here.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 12:36 Yes, gold for a king, frankincense for a deity, and myrrh for a sacrifice. Almost the whole gospel story in one song. Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 01:06 AM (f7Gew) 334
This is my personal favorite version of We Three Kings...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrn78V0AzEY Posted by: Joe Kidd I've heard worse versions. Music was good. Vocals nice. Something about the guitar riff in that reminded me (& MiladyJo too) of something… racked my brain, finally came up with a line that let my search hit it: Sultans of Swing! https://youtu.be/h0ffIJ7ZO4U Posted by: mindful webworker - it ain't what they call rock n roll at December 14, 2025 01:06 AM (lbDMw) 335
I'm late. What happened to the party? Did the cops come and break it up?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 14, 2025 01:10 AM (lCxV1) 336
Check out our Embalming Month specials!
Posted by: Crazy Hakkim's House of Myrrh at December 14, 2025 01:13 AM (lCxV1) 337
Fruitcake is here !!
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 01:15 AM (sDNVV) Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 01:18 AM (nhCoE) 339
Hi, Ben Had!
We've still got Jingle Juice punch, and extra-nog eggnog.. Or whatever you'd like to drink. The crowd is thinning, though. Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:19 AM (rdVOm) 340
Rainmandodo was fixin' to put a turd in the punchbowl, but got stopped.
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:19 AM (rdVOm) 341
I'm fashionably late because I had to let out my silver lame sheath.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 01:20 AM (sDNVV) 342
Ooooo. Silver lame! You look stunning, Ben Had!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:22 AM (rdVOm) 343
Thank you, JQ. A Balvenie please.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 01:23 AM (sDNVV) 344
It took me an hour and 20 mins (normally a 20 min drive) to get home.
It was not that bad, although the stop and go traffic meant the mustang had a bit of traction issues. Plus, Lexington could not be bothered to do any road treatment. Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2025 01:24 AM (bss/y) 345
I'm late. What happened to the party? Did the cops come and break it up?
Posted by: Cicero -------- Hahaha, no... it's just gotten quiet for a bit. Jukebox is in "Free Play" mode, why not punch in your selection? Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:25 AM (rdVOm) Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:26 AM (rdVOm) 347
JQ, you know your stuff! Throws a 50 in the tip jar.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 01:28 AM (sDNVV) 348
Thank you very much, Ben Had!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:33 AM (rdVOm) 349
https://youtu.be/-XWTOKQE8bo
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:34 AM (rdVOm) 350
Work Christmas Party horror stories?
Has anyone else mentioned this is the wrong link? Standards are really droppin' 'round here. Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so at December 14, 2025 01:38 AM (F/35S) 351
Party seems to be cooling down, before the next shift anyway. I'm going to get out of the way of all you hearty young partiers. Maybe catch you in the book thread. Maybe not. (Throws a Rwandan thousand-franc note in the tip jar. Tears off a chunk of fruitcake. Nom nom.)
https://youtu.be/rgk1I-cVv7U G'nite, y'all. Posted by: mindful webworker - does Grok dream of breathing and bleeding? at December 14, 2025 01:41 AM (lbDMw) 352
Work Christmas Party horror stories?
Has anyone else mentioned this is the wrong link? Standards are really droppin' 'round here. Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so ----------- No, most of us just enjoyed the rest of the content and got on with the party, instead of insulting our hosts. Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:45 AM (rdVOm) 353
Chex is Purina People Chow.
Posted by: Racially Ambiguous Honky at December 14, 2025 01:47 AM (zdQuL) Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:48 AM (rdVOm) 355
Still here, watching videos in another tab. Weird-ass shotgun slugs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 01:49 AM (npFr7) 356
Popping back in to say
https://youtu.be/-XWTOKQE8bo Posted by: JQ Thanks, JQ. That was just the nightcap I needed. G'nite again, y'all. Posted by: mindful webworker - pour the Guiness gently, lads at December 14, 2025 01:49 AM (lbDMw) 357
'Night, mindful! Thanks for the music!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:49 AM (rdVOm) Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 01:51 AM (sDNVV) 359
Wonder if Berserker will pop in? Bet his IRL party is... LOUD. Heh.
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:51 AM (rdVOm) 360
Good night, Ben Had. Thanks for coming. Sorry you hit us at a lull in the action.
Merry Christmas! Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:53 AM (rdVOm) 361
Standards are really droppin' 'round here.
Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so ------------ Fixed. LOL. Thanks for reading the content! Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 01:54 AM (41CYW) 362
Nice work, Doggo!
I admit to not noticing... some content is more appealing to me than other. Am sure others also pick what interests them most. Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:02 AM (rdVOm) 363
I'm back, it was like a MoMe out there by the firepit, just having so many lovely conversations. Baby its cold outside, need some more Chivas to warm me up. I'm sorry that I missed Ben Had, but I am glad that the party is still going on.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 14, 2025 02:02 AM (0nHVk) 364
*Chivas rocks for Debby*
Welcome back! Did you SEE that silver lame sheath that Ben Had wore? Wooh! She looked so good! Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:04 AM (rdVOm) 365
Oh, right... you missed her. Dang. She looked very festive!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:05 AM (rdVOm) 366
I use my Aunt Belle Chester's Chex mix recipe. It has one of the Chex cereals, Kix cereal, plain Cheerios, skinny pretzels instead of the curled kind, mixed nuts, not peanuts, and I add whole raw pecan halves, too. And of course Worcestershire sauce, butter, and all sorts of spices, including Cayenne pepper and allspice or Chinese 5 spice, and more.
So good. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 14, 2025 02:06 AM (Vvh2V) Saturday Evening Movie Thread - 12/13/2025Promised but Never Delivered ![]() Movie studios have been trying to build franchises out of almost every major special effects spectacle since the 80s. It's the Star Wars and Indiana Jones influence. One film's box office gold is supposed to lead to another and another until everything just runs out of gas. And so, Hollywood is littered with purported starts to franchises that failed to go past the first entry. The Rocketeer, Lost in Space, The Dark Tower, they all ended with promises of further adventures that never came to be. However, there are two over the past roughly fifteen years that hold special places in my heart, a pair of films so different from each other that are both considered huge box office bombs (one, the largest ever for a time) that I still yearn for sequels to. Now, just to make this clear...I do not think these sequels will ever materialize. One may...have a 1% chance of happening if lightning strikes the same spot fifteen times in a row, but otherwise, no. I don’t think these sequels will ever get made. The franchises are dead, and they will probably never be resurrected. Those are: John Carter and King Arthur: Legend of the Sword. Both were big, wildly expensive spectacles based on tales old before any of the creatives were born. The first, based on the first of the Barsoom novels, A Princess of Mars, by Edgar Rice Burroughs, and the second a mishmash (let's be honest, every telling of King Arthur is a mishmash) of Arthurian legends. And I just...jive with them. I kind of love the former, and I really like the latter, and I've seen far worse films get sequels. Box Office Failure ![]() Let's get this out of the way: the tale of two studios spending way too much money on movies that they shouldn’t have spent too much on. John Carter was the first live action feature film directed by Andrew Stanton, the PIXAR director who made Finding Nemo and WALL-E. Disney wanted a franchise to compete with the likes of Star Wars, so they gave Stanton, trusted creative, carte blanche to make a wildly expensive sci-fi adventure based on the granddaddy of sci-fi adventures. But...everything went wrong. Stanton, with no experience in live-action films, essentially filmed the movie twice, making the film wildly, wildly expensive when it should have just had one wildly, at most. Months before the release of the film, Disney acquired the Marvel rights and were already talking to George Lucas about buying Star Wars, so the need for a boys’ adventure sci-fi series died out (and then they put Kathleen Kennedy in charge, which is another thing altogether). Stanton was given control of the marketing, and he approved some of the worst trailers for the film, selling the movie as some sort of somber experience without any real build up within the trailers themselves. Taylor Kitsch's miscasting (I think he’s...fine in the role, but he doesn't have the easy charm John Carter probably should have) became a central reason for critics to crap all over the film. And then the film is based on the granddaddy of sci-fi pulp, the kind of old story that has DNA is most modern sci-fi and fantasy today, making it decidedly old fashioned and feeling derivative. Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that it was a box office bomb, but I fought the idea for weeks after its release, hoping against hope that there would be some great resurgence of interest in the property several weeks after release and everyone knowing it was a giant failure. My hopes were not answered. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword is a contrasting tale of failure, though, starting with the fact that the trailers for the film are actually really good. I think they sell it well, making it look exciting and fun without any sort of misdirection towards the audience. Guy Ritchie, the director, had a history of bringing his hyperactive style to historically set films in his two Robert Downey Jr. starring Sherlock Holmes films, a connection which the trailers promote. And, it failed to make its production budget back, sources saying that Warner Bros. Lost $150 million on the movie. That's a lot of money, so the planned six film series was canceled after only one. I think the explanation for King Arthur’s failure largely stems from the fact that mass audiences don't seem that interested in medieval fantasy films. There is one major exception in The Lord of the Rings (and The Hobbit), but medieval fantasy in general just doesn't seem to be a natural fit with mass audiences. They tend to eschew them rather them embrace them. The Chronicles of Narnia films, the first released right alongside The Lord of the Rings, steadily died out after three films. Eragon, based on a popular novel, was a huge bomb. Solomon Kane, based on the Robert E. Howard character, made no money. You can point back to the 80s and films like Excalibur, but that only made $35 million (a profit for the $11 million film, granted). The 80s were probably the height of the medieval fantasy genre's popularity across the board, and not even Conan the Barbarian hit $100 million (the modern telling, released in 2011, made about $60 million off of a $90 million budget). I mean, I really like medieval fantasy. I jive with it. But mass audiences don't seem all that keen on it. The Future that Never Was ![]() So, what would have been? What if Disney hadn’t been buying Star Wars and had decided to back John Carter completely? What if Stanton had managed his set better and spent half as much money? What if audiences had just decided to give King Arthur a shot? What would we have seen? Well, the easy one to answer is John Carter's supposed sequels. John Carter follows the basic plot of A Princess of Mars quite closely. There are additions, like the Therns gain a lot more prevalence in this early story than in Burroughs' series, and some specifics around transportation between Earth and Barsoom gets created, but in the larger plot points. It's A Princess of Mars. So, what would the second movie have been? Well, largely The Gods of Mars, the tale of what John Carter does when he returns to Barsoom ten years later. It would tell of the fight against Iss, the self-proclaimed goddess of Mars, the Black Pirates, the Therns, and Zondanga with Carter reconnecting with his friend Tars Tarkas, his wife Dejah Thoris, and meeting his son, Cathoris, as recklessly brave as his father. And then, the planned sequel would have seen the adaptation of The Warlord of Mars which sees John Carter becoming ruler of the entire planet. I'm sure Stanton would have kept the basic narrative bones and rearranged a lot of details, but it's not hard to imagine where that series would have gone, and it would have entertained me greatly. The more interesting question, though, is around King Arthur. As I said, any tale of King Arthur at this point is a mishmash of legend, Romance, and history, so there's no "true" telling of it. Le Morte d’Arthur by Thomas Malory disagrees in many details with Geoffrey of Monmouth's sketches in Historia Regum Britanniae. And it's a tale that’s been told by many, many people over more than a thousand years. Ritchie turning it into a cross between Conan the Barbarian and Ritchie's own low-level gangster movies was a definite creative choice to push Arthur in a new direction, but he also barely scratched the surface of the established tales while adding his own twists. We only see Merlin once, in a flashback, and we don't even see his face. The character called Mage was originally written as Guinevere, but any mention of her being Arthur's future wife were scrubbed out of the edit and through ADR, so they could still re-introduce her. Morgan le Fay is never even mentioned. There is a character called Mordred in the beginning, killed in the prologue, but that doesn't preclude the introduction in a later edition of the traditional Mordred (Arthur’s son/nephew by way of Morgan le Fay). In terms of the Knights of the Round Table, we only get Bedivere, Percival, and Tristan. So, no Lancelot, no Gawain, and no Galahad (there are dozens more in the legends over the centuries). Really, sequels were wide open. And the first sequel I would have liked to see might have gone something like this: Merlin and Morgan le Fay are in combat in the north, a war of mages far from Camelot. Lancelot comes from France to challenge the knights at a tourney (being a Guy Ritchie film, there would be bare-knuckle boxing). Lancelot is big, strong, and arrogant, and he is also the only man who could be Arthur’s equal in combat. They bond over beating each other up, but Lancelot has a secret that even he doesn’t know: he’s being manipulated by Morgan le Fay into acting as a distraction. Merlin sends Mage (not Guinevere) to ask for help. The second act is breaking Lancelot's spell. The third act is a big fight, ala Shadows of the Colossus where Arthur and Lancelot in particular have to climb a giant forest creature, his head and shoulders populated with trees since he's from the earth, to fight Morgan or some heavy at the top. One big, expensive action setpiece later, the knights have added a figure (maybe even Galahad in tow), and we're ready for movie #3. Never Happening ![]() Really, the two original films I just really enjoy watching. Patrick H. Willems described what he called "vibe movies", movies less about plot and more about just being in the world created by the filmmakers (his central film in his video was Christopher Nolan’s Tenet). And that's kind of how I feel about John Carter and King Arthur: Legend of the Sword in very different ways. John Carter is a big, earnest, sometimes goofy, old-school adventure film. Its big heart it wearshu unironically on its sleeve as it tells the story of a rootless man finding something to fight for once more. It’s told with color and energy, and I just get on its wavelength and enjoy the somewhat silly ride. King Arthur's Conan the Barbarian influences (its first shot is of a temple that resembles Thulsa Doom's temple in Milius' film alongside a tower that looks a lot like the Serpent's Tower in the same film, and there’s a lot of snake stuff overall, including a giant snake in the end) mixed with Ritchie's low-level gangster stuff is a weird mix, but it's something I really enjoy. The film is imperfect (the mix is sometimes not that great, a lot of the CGI is fun but feels wasteful and indulgent, and there's an emotional bit for Vortigern, the bad guy, late in the film that's just poorly established), but I still just find myself bobbing my head back and forth to Daniel Pemberton's soundtrack anyway. Structurally, it's actually surprisingly sound, even if Ritchie is throwing things in a blender within individual sequences. And both movies, I feel, artistically deserved sequels. Mostly because, well, I liked them. 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Once again, no Summer School starring Mark Harmon.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 07:31 PM (u73oe) 2
The gilded age intro probably jarred the viewet out of the film
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:35 PM (bXbFr) 3
From the beginning
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:35 PM (bXbFr) 4
I too, am a fan of the John Carter movie - and not just because of Lynn Collins. Thanks for the thread, TJM.
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 07:37 PM (46ZIb) 5
2012 Dredd almost got the widely desired sequel.
Posted by: davidt at December 13, 2025 07:38 PM (Q+gd/) 6
‘ King Arthur: Legend of the Sword is a contrasting tale of failure, though, starting with the fact that the trailers’
Maybe they should just release the trailer then. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 07:40 PM (fd80v) 7
If you make it past this barrier to barsoom you find a lot to like
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:41 PM (bXbFr) 8
Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:41 PM (Ia/+0) 9
I was not mad at your payers when I posted James 4.
I was just asking that as I here but a minute that the Lord know best how to answer. Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (gbOdA) 10
I liked "John Carter", darn it. Yes, Taylor K. With his flowing locks is not the grim John Carter with the scimitar smile, but he's an appealing actor and gets by on charm. Tars Tarkas and Woola make the movie for me, and the style of the Martian tech is right off an Amazing Stories cover.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (kpS4V) 11
I’ve always been a fan of the Arthurian legend. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword Didn’t do it for me and I don’t even remember why. I just remember being disappointed.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 07:43 PM (u73oe) 12
TJM I sadly can't follow your lists of movies by directors, no way to pull movies out like that.
Really think am getting something out of your videos as never looked at movies much more than Entertainment Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (Ia/+0) 13
Of course so many films and tv shows have borrowed from princess of mars
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (bXbFr) 14
There was lots more material that a sequel to "Master and Commander" could draw on. Probably not made for the same reason medieval movies don't cut it.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (BXUnK) 15
I liked John Carter; I think it was the marriage of old fashioned fantasy and sci-fi (plus all that desert) that appealed to me. Even as a bomb, it's so vastly superior to the crap Disney is turning out today.
I liked The Rocketeer, too; didn't know that one or more sequels originally had been contemplated. Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (2L+MU) 16
I recently rewatched Excalibur. It’s more a fever dream than a movie.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (u73oe) Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (gbOdA) 18
You would think with guy ritchies tast for posh surtoundings
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr) 19
He would direct king arthur in grand style
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (bXbFr) 20
Heck Ya!... I liked the Princess of Mars (John Carter) Movie.
I never figured out why the "critics" hated on this simple Movie. DF1 Been Creepin' on Ace for 10 years, finally had to post. Posted by: DFrosty1 at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (1p2AI) 21
Guy Ritchie's movie sorta works if you remove all the Arthurian stuff and make it a generic/new fantasy setting.
It's the Arthurian roots that make me reject this movie. I mean, it hardly has Merlin, it makes Arthur grow up around whores and pimps (such nobility and role models!) and it has Kung Fu George. Fucking Kung Fu George in Arthurian England. *eyetwitch* John Carter was silly when it should have been exciting and chaste when it should have been sexy. I never have managed to finish it, I just bounce off the first half hour every time. IMO, it's just too stupid to live. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (xcxpd) 22
Of course "John Carter" needed to have the costuming from the books, especially for the Princess of Mars. But then it'd would probably need an R rating.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (BXUnK) 23
Seriously, if Hollywood was really wholly into girlboss characters at least SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE would have done Anne McCaffery "Dragonriders of Pern", but NOOOOOOOOOO because that series had "normal" M/F relationships where each pair STRENGTHENED each other!
Sorry, real bitter that Dragonriders has never been made into a movie! -SLV Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (e/Osv) 24
'The 80s were probably the height of the medieval fantasy genre's popularity across the board'
Well, yeah. All of us Dungeons and Dragons playing teenagers liked that stuff. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (fd80v) 25
Miguel, I liked the period intro, if you mean Carter's message to his nephew(?).
I didn't like the stupid trope of Carter having a wife who died in his arms. It's that "let's kill off someone for easy pathos and sympathy for the lead character" crap. And it wasn't in the book. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (kpS4V) 26
It doesnt follow the book but i dont think yoi could sewuentially do so
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (bXbFr) 27
My brother and I could make Vegas Vaca for hlaf the $$$
and twice the money Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (gbOdA) 28
Promethius and the three bears.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (Kt19C) 29
If they had done John Carter faithfully, it wouldn't be a family movie. Aside from the violence, there would have been bewbs everywhere - red Martian bewbs, green Martian bewbs, white Martian bewbs....
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (i85MS) 30
28 Promethius and the three bears.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (Kt19C) this zenomorphe is just right Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (gbOdA) 31
12 TJM I sadly can't follow your lists of movies by directors, no way to pull movies out like that.
Really think am getting something out of your videos as never looked at movies much more than Entertainment Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (Ia/+0) A lot, but not all, of those movies can found online. Either at Archive.org, or Ok.Ru. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 13, 2025 07:49 PM (xcxpd) 32
Yes that gets a little old
If you want to introduce this world to an unfamiliar audience would you do it this way Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:49 PM (bXbFr) 33
TJM, what's that FunkoPop and license plate on your bookshelf?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:49 PM (kpS4V) 34
The sequel I want to see is Kung Fury 2, but it may never be released. Some legal issue with the distributer.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 07:50 PM (3uBP9) 35
Generally I do like swords and sorcery movies
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:50 PM (Ia/+0) 36
Probably you would need two films likd the way villeneuvr sectioned dune
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:51 PM (bXbFr) 37
The common elements to these film makers are valuable
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (bXbFr) 38
16 I recently rewatched Excalibur. It’s more a fever dream than a movie.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (u73oe ===== Arrow is releasing a 4K in a few months. Preordered. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (GBKbO) 39
I just got HD TV and it certainly has possibly I haven't explored.
Said my main channel TCM it won't let me see without a subscription now. If I had normal channel I could. Still see one of the local.movie channels in non HD Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:53 PM (Ia/+0) 40
31 12 TJM I sadly can't follow your lists of movies by directors, no way to pull movies out like that.
Really think am getting something out of your videos as never looked at movies much more than Entertainment Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (Ia/+0) A lot, but not all, of those movies can found online. Either at Archive.org, or Ok.Ru. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 13, 2025 07:49Pre-ordered. ==== Google leads the way. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:53 PM (GBKbO) 41
22 Of course "John Carter" needed to have the costuming from the books, especially for the Princess of Mars. But then it'd would probably need an R rating.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (BXUnK) ==== Eh. The original art leaned heavily towards Egyptian. Frazetta was decades later. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (GBKbO) 42
SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE would have done Anne McCaffery "Dragonriders of Pern"
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (e/Osv) ^^THIS^^ So many great books that could have been made into movies! Heck, Pern could have been a 10 year series, based on the number of books. Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (i85MS) 43
John Carter was a good film if you'd read the books.
I read the first two. I enjoyed the film. But Disney didn't know how to market it, and most of the population had never heard of John Carter or the Princess of Mars, and it looked like a cheesy alien kids movie in the trailers. There was also that 'Mars Curse' on Disney as Mars Needs Moms had bombed badly not too long before. I wish they'd made a sequel to the film as the basic story is pretty interesting and the way John Carter travels to Mars so mysteriously and then comes back to Earth just as mysteriously and with decades having passed. It could have made a decent franchise if done right, or at least a TV series. Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (6ydKt) 44
Or lack of costuming
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (bXbFr) 45
33 TJM, what's that FunkoPop and license plate on your bookshelf?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:49 PM (kpS4V) ==== Funko is Doc Brown with the mind reader on his head. Junior's. A gift from a while ago. Plate is OUTATIME, also from Back to the Future. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (GBKbO) 46
^^THIS^^
So many great books that could have been made into movies! Heck, Pern could have been a 10 year series, based on the number of books. Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (i85MS) ---- Considering how Wheel of Time was butchered by Amazon, I don't trust ANY modern studio to give classic works a proper treatment on either the small or large screen. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (ESVrU) 47
Yeah, there's a lot of flat-out nekkidness in the Barsoom stories, and that ain't happening onscreen.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (kpS4V) 48
I just watched the latest Knives Out movie, Wake Up Dead Man and quite liked it, much more than Glass Onion and even more than the original. Part of this is because I like shows about ordinary people much more than those about the rich and famous. Part because it is set in a small Catholic parish church. And the plot is an impossible murder referencing John Dickson Carr. Some may see it as sacrilegious or even blasphemous but I don't. So, recommended.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 07:57 PM (L/fGl) 49
The thing about Master and Commander, it could easily have had sequels, but I never felt the need for them.
I wanted them, but the original film felt complete at the same time. And I don't think any sequel would have matched it. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:57 PM (GBKbO) 50
I see shorts for these little Peacock and Netflix and Hulu series and in every one of them, people are screaming at each other or accusing each other of malfeasance or betrayal or infidelity. Dinners always feature some dark revelation or hatred for someone else. Nobody is polite or charitable or supportive or loving. The dialogue may be sardonic but never funny. What is it with the producers and writers of these things? Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 07:58 PM (tgvbd) 51
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'Yeah, there's a lot of flat-out nekkidness in the Barsoom stories, and that ain't happening onscreen.' Yeah. All the college age men would hate that. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 07:59 PM (fd80v) 52
Yeah amazon would mess it up maybe paramount
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:59 PM (bXbFr) 53
"The Rocketeer" is a perfect movie, and unless the sequels were also perfect, I'm glad it's a one-shot.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:59 PM (kpS4V) 54
Saw John Carter when it first came out -- kinda liked it, but would have to see it again. People hating it? Well, okay, everything is hated by somebody, but I don't recall it was anywhere near bad enough to rate the abuse it got.
The flick I'd have liked to see become a franchise was Remo Williams. Fred Ward and Joel Grey were delightful in it. McCaffrey's Pern? Would make a NICE series of films, but what would our current crop of enlightened filmmakers do to it on its way to the screen? One shudders to think. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:00 PM (q3u5l) 55
Considering how Wheel of Time was butchered by Amazon, I don't trust ANY modern studio to give classic works a proper treatment on either the small or large screen.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (ESVrU) Perfessor, I hate to have to agree, but you are so, so, so sadly correct. In the 80's-90's I think I would have expected the studios to do a good job (or maybe a campy job -like several of the Fantastic 4's of the time), but now, sad to say, I don't trust Hollywood, AT ALL! -SLV Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:01 PM (e/Osv) 56
Thats who the writers are backbiting weasels
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:01 PM (bXbFr) 57
Yeah i like remo williams fred ward as an action star whatever joel grey was doing
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:02 PM (bXbFr) 58
So glad you mentioned John Carter. I thought I was about the only one who enjoyed it. Haven't been to a movie theater since the 2003 release of Return of the King but do get DVDs now and then and this was one. Damn! What a fun movie. Old style adventure, plenty of humor but not a parody like the Batman TV series. And great special effects. The more I learned critics hated it the more I wanted to see it. Once again: my preference 1, critics 0. Lynn Collins completed the appeal.
Sorry I didn't see it on a big screen. Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:03 PM (yTvNw) 59
Look at how much has been soent on avatar
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:03 PM (bXbFr) 60
Been some time now, year maybe read someone was trying for a pre-quil of Patrick O'Brian story Master and Commander. Obviously the original actors have to be replaced
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (Ia/+0) 61
I don't know it was the medieval setting that killed Narnia, so much as the movie makers. The first was quite good. The 2nd just wasn't; enough worse that I never bothered with the 3rd.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (s0JqF) 62
The thing about Master and Commander, it could easily have had sequels, but I never felt the need for them.
I wanted them, but the original film felt complete at the same time. And I don't think any sequel would have matched it. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:57 PM (GBKbO) --- I agree. I love the books, but the film was meant to be an homage, and it worked wonderfully. Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (0aYVJ) 63
@50
>> And I don't think any sequel would have matched it. Well constructed films don’t need sequels. Sequels are cash grabs in the main. Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (XV/Pl) 64
For my money the sequel that ought to have been was one or more coming after Master and Commander. And there was plenty of material to work from. But I understand it lost $. Why, I don't know. It's the last movie I really liked.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (s0JqF) Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (zZu0s) 66
The Trump lyes abouts my Black Presdent T shits is be back in stock.
Gets yoors befoor they be gone. Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (ySHsh) 67
Sequels I wanted: The Last Starfighter, Come and See, Time Bandits
Sequels I didn't want: Rocky V, Star Wars 6, Jaws 2 and 3D. Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (PHmbR) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (L/fGl) 69
Also two great sets of books that could be made into a whole slew of movies or series':
The Miles Vorkosigan books from Lois McMaster Bujold. It's ... well, I can't describe it except to say he pulls a lot of shenanigans to solve problems. Pulling them off relies partly on his brains, people's tendency to mis-underestimate him, and some connection to power. The Chanur novels of C.J. Cherryh. Her aliens are not just humans in rubber suits, but think differently. The Cuckoo's Egg could also be done, if it was done right. I doubt her Foreigner novels would translate well to film, though you might try them as animated movies. Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (nuE1e) 70
I liked John Carter as well , but yes it needed way more boobs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (k5cxK) 71
65 Tl;dr
TJM is not a complete effette tool hipster when it comes to film. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (zZu0s ==== Am an asshole, though. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (GBKbO) 72
John Carter was but needed to be tighter. It is hard to do and set up the story, but it drug too long on earth (and overall, honestly.)
Like the movie though. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:07 PM (zZu0s) 73
Yeah that is cringe worthy
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:07 PM (bXbFr) 74
72 John Carter was but needed to be tighter. It is hard to do and set up the story, but it drug too long on earth (and overall, honestly.)
Like the movie though. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:07 PM (zZu0s ==== I'd recast Carter and eliminate the Barsoom prologue. The earth stuff i dig. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (GBKbO) 75
Speaking of Bewbs, I always liked the Robert Mitchum - Marilyn movie on the river. Mitchum is one of my all time favorites.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (k5cxK) 76
I liked John Carter as well , but yes it needed way more boobs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (k5cxK) In this case, I cannot think of a gal who would fit Boris' vision who would have done better. The gal in the movie is a knock out. And plays it straight with no cheese or ham. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (zZu0s) 77
Umm, so speaking of movies. I'm streaming Tubi (cut the other cord about a year ago).
So did anyone know there was a "Conan the Barbarian" movie released in 2011 starring Jason Mamoa? -SLV Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:09 PM (e/Osv) 78
It looks more like Starfleet Saved By The Bell.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:09 PM (6ydKt) 79
Are Bond Films sequels?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (XV/Pl) 80
The John Carter movie was really a very good movie, too bad it was hammered by the critics. Call it what you will, marketing is paramount, but the casting was excellent and the cinematography was top notch. It's hard to fuck up a production as well made as this was.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (1zOXE) 81
Filming movies back to back is a great way to ensure continuity, if the money is there to do it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (kpS4V) 82
One of my favorite Preminger's is Anatomy of a Murder.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (L/fGl) 83
I'd recast Carter and eliminate the Barsoom prologue. The earth stuff i dig.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (GBKbO) Hmmm. Yeah, that could work too. Just tell it from Carter's POV? I like it. Would match the book. But I still think even doing that that the earth stuff would drag. Cut the will part. Until the end. Reveal that the kid is reading Carters account. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (zZu0s) 84
Don't think I ever saw that particular King Arthur movie. I have seen the John Carter flick quite a few times. It grew on me. Lynn Collins is one pretty gal and that helped me watch it more than once. It's a solid action flick with a good story.
And Lynn Collins is hot! Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (rii+a) 85
77 Umm, so speaking of movies. I'm streaming Tubi (cut the other cord about a year ago).
So did anyone know there was a "Conan the Barbarian" movie released in 2011 starring Jason Mamoa? -SLV Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:09 PM (e/Osv) ==== Even mentioned it in the content. I saw it on theaters (the dollar theater, to be honest), and i own the 3D Blu-ray. Its...okay. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (GBKbO) 86
@GWB
The Miles Vorkosigan books from Lois McMaster Bujold. ---- LOVED the Miles books!!!!!!!! -SLV Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (e/Osv) 87
Considering how Wheel of Time was butchered by Amazon, I don't trust ANY modern studio to give classic works a proper treatment on either the small or large screen.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (ESVrU) I never read Wheel Of Time, so I was baffled by the complaints many had. But I will absolutely agree with your assessment. If someone wrote ME a very large check to make Pern (or Chanur, or Miles Vorkosigan) I would certainly do it justice. I'm a visual reader and have built the scenes in my mind for years. Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (K1PX7) 88
Svengoolie has duel
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (bXbFr) 89
Speaking of movies, "Duel" is on Svengoolie.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 08:12 PM (vFG9F) Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:12 PM (e/Osv) 91
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension needed a sequel. It was even mentioned at the end of the movie.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at December 13, 2025 08:13 PM (VoMie) 92
How would you follow that up
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:14 PM (bXbFr) 93
It would have been fun to explore the other subcultures of Barsoom, like the technophile Black Martians and the polar Yellow Martians, the people living on one of the moons, and heck, toss in the Skeleton Men of Jupiter.
And the mad scientist creating men from a vat of fleshy goo or doing brain transplants would be a laff riot. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:15 PM (kpS4V) 94
Speaking of movies, "Duel" is on Svengoolie.
Posted by: fd For starting out as a second banana on Gunsmoke, Dennis Weaver did all right for himself. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (L/fGl) 95
One of my favorite Preminger's is Anatomy of a Murder. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (L/fGl) Another good book ruined by Otto Preminger Anatomy of a Murder: ruined Advise and Consent: ruined In Harm's Way: ruined Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (tgvbd) 96
John Carter is a mystery to me as well. I avoided in its theatrical run, based on the near-universal panning it received.
A while back it came up a suggested freebie in Amazon Prime Video. "What the hell... I can just turn it off when it starts to suck." (see: "The Rings of Power".. I rejected that one less than ten minutes in). To my surprise, it didn't suck at all. I've seen far, far, worse F&SF movies. I completely agree that it's sequel-worthy (as you suggest, Burroughs wrote about a billion of those books, so it's not like there's a shortage of material). In regard to Master and Commander, I think one reason it was failed to garner any awards was that it was up against the juggernaut of The Return of the King. That probably hurt it at the box office at least some, too, A fine, fine film, which I need to watch again. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (IG3/x) 97
91 The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension needed a sequel. It was even mentioned at the end of the movie.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at December 13, 2025 08:13 PM (VoMie) Camp-y movies of the 80-90 period were FUN, as opposed to MANY movies these days. I greatly enjoyed Buckaroo. -SLV Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (e/Osv) 98
The books are tailor made for movies. Being episodic. Periodic narrative changes as this or that guy become the protagonist of a book.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:17 PM (zZu0s) 99
True, I was waiting for years for the sequel to Buckaroo Banzai.
I guess it was too far out there and didn't make enough money. Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:17 PM (6ydKt) 100
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In regard to Master and Commander, I think one reason it was failed to garner any awards was that it was up against the juggernaut of The Return of the King. That probably hurt it at the box office at least some, too, A fine, fine film, which I need to watch again. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (IG3/x) ==== Peter Weir is an artist, and timing killed his best chances at that Oscar. M&C is a masterpiece. Love it so much. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:18 PM (GBKbO) 101
Sorry I didn't see it on a big screen.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:03 PM (yTvNw) That's one of the other bits. John Carter is a BIG SCREEN flick. Or it should be. Something to make vast red deserts look really vast, and 4-armed Martians leaping out from the rocks look huge and terrifying. Pern would have to be. It's about flying dragons in the sky and dogfighting with them. If you shot it to look right on a TV, it would suffer. Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:18 PM (K1PX7) 102
Advice and consent was not easy to adapt
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:20 PM (bXbFr) 103
Zelazny's Amber books would make a nice series of flicks.
So would Lawrence Block's Matt Scudders -- two were done, one with Jeff Bridges and the other with Liam Neeson (the better of the two). But no series of films, darn it. So would John D. MacDonald's Travis McGees -- two were done, one with Rod Taylor and one for television with Sam Elliott. No series of films, darn it. Taylor's, Darker Than Amber, is worth a watch just for the absolutely brutal fight sequence between Taylor and William Smith at the finish. No stunt doubles. Quite a few films from Westlake's Parker novels, but they're all over the map. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:20 PM (q3u5l) 104
Carter of Mars was an extremely difficult project to adapt. It just was doomed from the start. Admirable failure but a failure nonetheless.
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (mlg/3) 105
Hi all,
Speaking of sequels. Did anyone watch the Spinal Tap sequel? I didn't even realized it had been made but saw something about it recently. I presume it doesn't work but maybe others differ? Some good movies I've seen recently are TRAIN DREAMS, NOUVELLE VAGUE, SENTIMENTAL VALUE, IT WAS ONLY AN ACCIDENT, NO OTHER CHOICE and watching JAY KELLY now. I think TRAIN DREAMS will be my #1 for the year, though there are dozens I haven't seen which I should. Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (y4H1r) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (tgvbd) 107
The effects in JC also look pretty good without being cheesy. Woola and the Green men come off surprisingly well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (zZu0s) 108
Master and Commander is a male-centric film.
I'm not surprised it didn't get many awards based on that alone. The female Oscar voters watching it probably fell asleep half-way through. Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (6ydKt) 109
Strangest feeling of deja vu reading the post. Oh, yeah: it's 'cause I watched that video already.
Still have your Capra one to watch, so, yeah. "The Rocketeer" is a perfect movie, and unless the sequels were also perfect, I'm glad it's a one-shot. Posted by: All Hail Eris Very much so! Posted by: mindful webworker - film flam at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (lbDMw) 110
On war movie reviews of realism Master and Commander often wins big marks.
I definitely put it in my top war movies Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (Ia/+0) 111
I thought in harms way was good
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (bXbFr) 112
I had trouble bringing an Otto Preminger movie to mind that I liked. So, I checked out his filmography. Eh, i guess both "Anatomy of a Murder" and "Laura" were alright. I guess Ol' Otsy didn't make the kind of movies I was interested in seeing. Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (iJfKG) Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (KDPiq) Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (ZxPkt) 115
Advice and consent was not easy to adapt Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:20 PM (bXbFr) Allen Drury was so disgusted by what happened to his book that he refused to sell the film rights of any of his others. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:23 PM (tgvbd) 116
Oh, and yeah, the Martians in the books are way more nekkid than they are in the movie (this is Disney)... both men and women wear nothing but a sort of harness on which they can hang weapons and jewelry.
"And the sight which met my eyes was that of a slender, girlish figure, similar in every detail to the earthly women of my past life. She did not see me at first, but just as she was disappearing through the portal of the building which was to be her prison she turned, and her eyes met mine. Her face was oval and beautiful in the extreme, her every feature was finely chiseled and exquisite, her eyes large and lustrous and her head surmounted by a mass of coal black, waving hair, caught loosely into a strange yet becoming coiffure. Her skin was of a light reddish copper color, against which the crimson glow of her cheeks and the ruby of her beautifully molded lips shone with a strangely enhancing effect. She was as destitute of clothes as the green Martians who accompanied her; indeed, save for her highly wrought ornaments she was entirely naked, nor could any apparel have enhanced the beauty of her perfect and symmetrical figure." -- A Princess of Mars Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (IG3/x) 117
The sequel they should have made but Hollywood hates us is Dredd.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (KDPiq) The one with Stallone or the one with Karl Urban? I like them both. Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (6ydKt) 118
Also, the guy they had as the loyal lieutenant in Barsoom. Also was in Solomon Kane. I like that actor.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s) 119
I really liked John Carter. Especially the ending. I can't help it that audiences don't know good movies when they see them.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (KDPiq) 120
"Well I didn't vote for you."
Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (ZxPkt) ---- I thought we were an autonomous collective!" Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (kpS4V) 121
Karl Urban's Dredd is a great movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s) 122
Patrick Willems? I got blocked by Willems after reminding him that he said people shouldn't hate on Stars Wars Ep 8 because it is a 'children's story about space wizards' when he was losing his mind over Ep 9. Good times
Posted by: ILikeEmScurvy at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (IMskL) Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (KDPiq) 124
The sequel they should have made but Hollywood hates us is Dredd.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (KDPiq) I saw that movie twice at the theater, I like it so much. And at popular viewing times. The first time during it's opening weekend, I was the only one in the theater. The second time, there was one other person watching the movie. There's no way that was ever going to get a sequel. Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (iJfKG) 125
Pern would have to be. It's about flying dragons in the sky and dogfighting with them and rape
Fixed it, on Anne McCaffery's behalf Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (gKWVE) Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (6ydKt) 127
Eat My Dust
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 08:26 PM (Mk6+b) 128
I would have liked another Riddick movie but he's too old now.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:26 PM (KDPiq) 129
128 I would have liked another Riddick movie but he's too old now.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:26 PM (KDPiq ==== Another one is being made, actually. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (GBKbO) 130
As for John Carter, I'll always wonder how come it didn't get an anime treatment.
Michael Kogge seems to be about to fill that need. Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (gKWVE) 131
Who else think Stargate and John Carter had a lot of similarities?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (KDPiq) 132
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (6ydKt)
Urban. Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (KDPiq) The darker version. It's good for that. The campy Stallone version with Diane Lane isn't bad either. A sequel to Demolition Man would've been nice. But it seems we're living through it, instead. Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (6ydKt) 133
61 I don't know it was the medieval setting that killed Narnia, so much as the movie makers. The first was quite good. The 2nd just wasn't; enough worse that I never bothered with the 3rd.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (s0JqF) I’m surprised Hollywood even attempted it. I’m no Narnia fanboy but how they can make that series with such disdain for its Christian themes I can’t imagine. I think that is why they stopped where they did. Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (4786I) 134
The Rocketeer had 1991 Jennifer Connelly.
I mean, it doesn't get much better than that. Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (6ydKt) Joe Johnston was the director. He also did the first Captain America movie. You can see it when you know it. Both are genuine and play it without irony or sarcasm. A rarity these days. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (zZu0s) 135
Skip next time you're in San Diego you should visit the ship used (built?) for Master & Commander, it's part of the maritime museum down in the harbor. Actually, I should visit it too. There's a good "making of" video about that movie that discusses the ship and the realism/accuracy of many details. Definitely one of the better movies of recent decades.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (U/Byj) Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (iJfKG) 137
Anyone mention Buckaroo Banzai yet?
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (LHPAg) 138
There was a sequel to Urban's Dredd in the works, with Urban, but apparently it died on the vine.
Posted by: davidt at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (Q+gd/) 139
130 As for John Carter, I'll always wonder how come it didn't get an anime treatment.
Michael Kogge seems to be about to fill that need. Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (gKWVE) ===== The earliest attempt to adapt it was in the 30s, and it would have been animated. Theater owners convinced the producer to kill it, though. Told them people wouldn't accept something so fanciful. It would have predated Snow White as the first feature length animated film. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (GBKbO) 140
What's that watermelon doing there?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (Mk6+b) 141
Advice and consent was not easy to adapt
Posted by: Miguel cervantes That book and movie is homophobic! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (L/fGl) 142
It may be an irony (Alanis can correct me) but one reason John Carter flopped is everyone thought it was ripping off Dune, Stargate, Star Wars, and/or Flash Gordon
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (gKWVE) 143
> Zelazny's Amber books would make a nice series of flicks.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:20 PM (q3u5l) We have the technology to pull those off now, but please let them not be made until the woke mania dies out. I don't think I could handle a handicapped, retarded, transgendered Corwin of color. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (IG3/x) 144
Another one is being made, actually.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (GBKbO) Lot of AI I imagine. Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (KDPiq) 145
Speaking of Capra, this week we watched American Madness. Had never seen it, or even heard of it until someone mentioned it on here. I think. Good ol' Capra! YooToob has it to rent or buy, but somebody posted in for free:
https://youtu.be/PHe4AMjkozs Also watched, last week or so, Jules, a low-key SF, almost fantasy, movie. Ben Kingsley stars as a reclusive old man with slight onset of old-timer's. Satisfying. Don't read about it, don't watch a trailer, just cue it up and watch. YooToob has it to rent or buy, but somebody posted in for free: https://youtu.be/-CfqCY9V4DQ Posted by: mindful webworker - film flan at December 13, 2025 08:30 PM (lbDMw) 146
Angel Face (Rating 3/4) Full Review "I think it's solidly good, undone by some late stage choices that grind things to a halt. However, the line on characters, the production itself, and the noirish coat of paint all make Angel Face a compelling drama that Preminger manages well, even if Howard Hughes had hired him to torture Jean Simmons." [Library]
forget where/when I heard this, (perhaps a Mitchum docu?) but Otto had Mitchum slap Jean Simmons, and kept wanting him to do it, over and over. Well, after about 3rd or 4th take, Jean was crying and if IIRC, Otto wanted more takes. Mitchum said, no, no more, and if you keep pushing this, I will get you fired....that was that... I so respect Robert for doing that... Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 08:30 PM (/Pwrg) 147
118 Also, the guy they had as the loyal lieutenant in Barsoom. Also was in Solomon Kane. I like that actor.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s) Hmmm, Robert E Howard's "Soloman Kane" deserves at least as much attention as his "Conan" books. Kull got a movie, but Soloman was deeper than Conan or Kull. -SLV Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:30 PM (e/Osv) 148
142 It may be an irony (Alanis can correct me) but one reason John Carter flopped is everyone thought it was ripping off Dune, Stargate, Star Wars, and/or Flash Gordon
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (gKWVE) ==== Disney killed it. Terrible marketing and they didn't lean on critics. They had bought Marvel and were buying Star Wars. John Carter wasn't necessary on a corporate level anymore. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:31 PM (GBKbO) 149
Thx TJM.
John Carter is a fun movie. Never saw that particular Arthurian movie, but anything in the he realm must be compared to Excalibur. Boorman was a very interesting director. Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 08:31 PM (D+mpw) 150
Daniel Baldwin took Ben Kingsley to acting school.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 08:31 PM (Mk6+b) 151
Recently watched Odd Thomas. That should have been a franchise . Of course the actor died too soon.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (KDPiq) 152
"I don't think I could handle a handicapped, retarded, transgendered Corwin of color."
I'll second that. And that's what we'd probably get from the current crop of geniuses at the studios. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (q3u5l) 153
rhomboid I didn't know it was in the USA, think it was built in France
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (Ia/+0) 154
Excalibur fascinated me as a kid.
It was filmed quite beautifully. The story is timeless. And a young-ish Patrick Stewart as a knight in one scene. I think that's the only thing I've seen him in before ST:TNG. Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (6ydKt) 155
79 Are Bond Films sequels?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (XV/Pl) They are not supposed to be. Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 08:34 PM (4786I) Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2025 08:34 PM (iJfKG) 157
Watched Stalag 17 again for the first time in decades (on Utoob now). Of its time, but otherwise holds up fairly well. One detail I didn't recall was how Shultz says he was a pro wrestler in Cincinnati before the war. Which was a nice historically accurate allusion to how "German" Cincinnati was.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:34 PM (U/Byj) 158
What happened to my Dino de Laurentiis sequel to Flash Gordon??
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (gKWVE) 159
I am bereft. The pawn shop quit their sales of DVD's
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (sDNVV) 160
I've got "Excaliber" in 4K on order.
- First time I ever heard Carl Orff's O Fortuna and I loved it Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (L/fGl) 161
Pitch Black is one of the best Sci Fi films of the 21st century.
It had proably the best sound design this side of Ghost in The Darkness. We used to use Pitch Black to demo 5.1 surround sound. Speaking of sound design, whatever happened to sound design? Now all we get is loud, louder and Nolan. Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (XV/Pl) 162
I rarely enjoy sequels. I regarded the original three Star Wars films to be one long movie and enjoyed them. Saw the first sequel, the one with Jar Jar Something, and never went back to the franchise. Even the Indiana Jones movies, which were decent, didn't live up to the original film. The best thing about Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade was the interplay of Ford with Sean Connery. The ones that followed Last Crusade were crap. Not bad acting, bad stories.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (yTvNw) 163
The music in Excalibur was used in my fraternity's formal initiation .
Prior to the movie being made. Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (KDPiq) 164
And I gotta say, I kinda liked River of No Return too.
If memory serves, it used to show up on NBC Saturday Night at the Movies in the 60s. Pretty sure that's where I first saw it. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (q3u5l) 165
I liked his sherlock holmes wven though it was really just downey being himself with a strong steampunk element
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (bXbFr) 166
145 Speaking of Capra, this week we watched American Madness. Had never seen it, or even heard of it until someone mentioned it on here. I think. Good ol' Capra! YooToob has it to rent or buy, but somebody posted in for free:
https://youtu.be/PHe4AMjkozs Posted by: mindful webworker - film flan at December 13, 2025 08:30 PM (lbDMw) Oh, indeed, good ol Capra! You can see a few pre- Its a Wonderful life ideas (at the bank, and some other banker saying, your friends won't save you) and a touch of Mr Deeds goes to Town (I believe Walter Huston gives up for a time) Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (/Pwrg) 167
Sequel to Risky Business has to be made!
Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (y4H1r) 168
> I think that's the only thing I've seen him in before ST:TNG.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (6ydKt) The first thing I saw him in was as Macro in I, Claudius back in the '70s (also the first time I saw boobs on TV... apparently the local PBS outlet decided it was British, therefore Art). I didn't know who he was at the time, of course. I watched the series again years later and had a "I know that guy" moment. Then the penny dropped. Patrick Stewart! With hair! The series holds up quite well, by the way. Just don't expect a lot of fancy special effects, just some first-rate acting and storytelling. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (IG3/x) 169
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:34 PM (U/Byj
Should have cut out the Christmas party dance scene. I call BS. Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (KDPiq) 170
We pretend crystal skull didnt happen in my house
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (bXbFr) 171
I read that somehow Big Trouble in Little China took the place of the Buckaroo Bansai sequel.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (k5cxK) 172
142 It may be an irony (Alanis can correct me) but one reason John Carter flopped is everyone thought it was ripping off Dune, Stargate, Star Wars, and/or Flash Gordon
Posted by: gKWVE Considering the source material pre-dates all of those, yes. Ironic. Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (rii+a) 173
OK, who wants to see a thread crossover, Perfesser Squirrel and TJM swapping threads? Perfesser does a bit on book-themed movies, and TJM does a bit on books that inspired movies? TJM has to actually talk about the books, though, on Sunday morning, and Perfesser has talk about the movies.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (WMHh6) 174
One sequel I found better than the original is Addams Family Values. I love that one.
My Dad heard the name "Pubert" and he just about died laughing. Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 08:39 PM (0aYVJ) 175
There are three Indiana Jones movies and a fourth there shall never be.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 08:39 PM (4786I) 176
Skip don't know where she was built, but apparently 1970, and used for training. Modified to be highly accurate replica of an 18th century Royal Navy 24-gun frigate.
Really would like to see her some time. Maritime museum prices (like so much) are high, and I no longer have workarounds from military museum where I volunteered. Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:39 PM (U/Byj) 177
And I saw and enjoyed "Wicked For Good", which I realize is a tad too gayballz for this crowd.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (kpS4V) 178
Solomon Kane i have not seen all of it. The effects were... not good, but the acting was not bad.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (zZu0s) 179
GWB at 173 --
That could be fun, and I'd bet TJM and the Perfessor could bring it off without even working hard. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (q3u5l) 180
Finally caught the Dual of Destiny the other night. That movie was a very stupid mess.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (D+mpw) 181
Bought tickets for a theatrical run (re-run?) of Scrooged on the 16th. Saw it originally in first run theater. That's how it was meant to be seen. Hope there's a good crowd.
There ought to be a Bill Murray calendar. Watch Ghostbusters in October. Watch Scrooged in December. Watch Groundhog Day in February. Watch What About Bob in the Summer. What else? Still debating whether we want to go to the theater on Christmas Day to see It's a Wonderful Life. Could be fun, even if we do have every frame and sound memorized. (One of my regular prayers, in plaintive Zuzu's voice: "Fix it, Daddy!") At least the theater is clean, with comfy seats. Theaters could survive and thrive if they just showed old flicks. Anyway, I've thought so for years. Glad to encourage the practice. Posted by: mindful webworker - flim flum at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (lbDMw) 182
OK, who wants to see a thread crossover, Perfesser Squirrel and TJM swapping threads? Perfesser does a bit on book-themed movies, and TJM does a bit on books that inspired movies? TJM has to actually talk about the books, though, on Sunday morning, and Perfesser has talk about the movies.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (WMHh6) Two best book to movies IMO are The Great Santini and Captains Courageous ( even though they changed the ending) Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:41 PM (KDPiq) 183
177 And I saw and enjoyed "Wicked For Good", which I realize is a tad too gayballz for this crowd.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (kpS4V) ===== Dolley and I went and saw it. Neither of us liked it, but I liked it less. I was just kind of miserable. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:41 PM (GBKbO) 184
The sequel we really need is "Sharknado 7", or whatever number they're up to. That's a story and set of characters that really have a lot of potential left.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 08:41 PM (X5Jzz) 185
I think that's the only thing I've seen him in before ST:TNG.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (6ydKt) Even younger in I, Claudius as Sejanus. Even has hair. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (zZu0s) 186
TJM has to actually talk about the books, though, on Sunday morning, and Perfesser has talk about the movies.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (WMHh6) --- I bet TJM is much more amenable to shorty robes and togas in lieu of pants. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (kpS4V) 187
Eris, with all the boob talk by the guys I've never figured out why they aren't binge watching Spartacus.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (sDNVV) 188
> 175 There are three Indiana Jones movies and a fourth there shall never be.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 08:39 PM (4786I) I pretend that the movie Starship Troopers is a completely separate story that just by coincidence has the same name as a classic Heinlein novel. They have precious little else in common. Not even nude Denise Richards in her prime compensates for that steaming pile of shite. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (IG3/x) 189
170 We pretend crystal skull didnt happen in my house
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (bXbFr) You know what pissed me of most (out of many choices) in Crystal Skull? Here we have this highly advanced inter dimensional alien race who have been collecting 12,000 years (we are told) of mankind’s greatest artifacts, from every culture, but at the end the aliens just say “aw fukkit we’re outta here” and they smash everything to bits and go home. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (k5cxK) 190
You must be mistaken thar film doesnt exist
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (bXbFr) Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (KDPiq) 192
Bill Murray's "Meatballs" is perfect for July/August.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (gKWVE) 193
> Even younger in I, Claudius as Sejanus. Even has hair.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (zZu0s) Yep, you're right. Sejanus, not Macro. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (IG3/x) Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (zZu0s) 195
"The first thing I saw him in was as Macro in I, Claudius back in the '70s"
Actually he played Sejanus. I think Macro was played by John Rhys Davies. Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (lJ0H4) Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (bXbFr) 197
way I see it, absolutely. Actually that's part of what I mean by "of its time" - quite a few odd/discordant notes struck, usually related to entertainment, in what is otherwise a "dark" movie. Too many gags and not much dark humor. The character "Animal" is about 25 pounds overweight - very very unlikely by December 1944, and he had been a POW for some time.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (U/Byj) 198
Sequel to Risky Business has to be made!
Posted by: Lex At least his heart was in the right place. OnlyFans model tells @outkick’s @JoeKinseyexp that [former Michigan coach] Sherrone Moore offered her season tickets for a foursome with two other only fans models, DM’ed her during halftime of games. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (L/fGl) 199
70 I liked John Carter as well , but yes it needed way more boobs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (k5cxK) Just to be clear, do you mean more women exposing their boobs, or hot Martian women with more than two boobs? Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (X5Jzz) 200
How about lifeforce have done tobe hooper
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (bXbFr) 201
Patrick Stewart was in Lynch's Dune too iirc. As Gurney Halleck, although I think that character was better in the miniseries.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (gKWVE) 202
23 Seriously, if Hollywood was really wholly into girlboss characters at least SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE would have done Anne McCaffery "Dragonriders of Pern", but NOOOOOOOOOO because that series had "normal" M/F relationships where each pair STRENGTHENED each other!
Sorry, real bitter that Dragonriders has never been made into a movie! -SLV Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (e/Osv) Anne McCaffery was so against anyone touching her work that fan-sites wouldn't even host fanfiction, for fear of legal action. That annoyed me back when I was of an age when I would seek out fanfiction and fanart. But now....Not only do I understand her animosity, I fully support it. Let Dragonriders of Pern remain as novels, unblemished by idiots trying to 'adapt' them to meet modern sensibilities and or preach today's beliefs... Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (Lhaco) Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:45 PM (zZu0s) 204
I am reading Leigh Brackett's Skaith series with Eric John Stark. If it had been written in the 30's it would have been a John Carter pastiche, but when it was written it was more of a nod to Tolkien. It is, however, the basic plan for a D&D campaign, with much better prose. It is also the original "grim-dark" adventure with a possibly positive conclusion
It would make a wonderful series. I also think Bill Adams and Cecil Brooks' completely unknown Ethan Larkspur books, The Unwound Way and The End of Fame could make a blockbuster series, though it would pretty much take James Cameron's effects crew to do the denouement. And of course, if there ever was a need for a Logan's Run type series with a happier ending, Tanith Lee's Don't Bite the Sun books would be excellent. Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 08:45 PM (rbvCR) 205
Didn't Patrick Stewart play Lenin in "Fall of Eagles"? I could look it up, but I'm lazy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:45 PM (kpS4V) 206
>>1 Once again, no Summer School starring Mark Harmon.
Dear Lord, Duke, I saw that on TV in my misspent youth! Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 08:46 PM (NcvvS) 207
And re book to movie.
TubiTV has The Last Train, with Jean Louis Trintignant and the merely cosmically lovely Romy Schneider. It's from Simenon's novel The Train, which I've not read in too long. Not a bad adaptation, from my memory of the book, but director/co-screenwriter Pierre Granier-Deferre blew the ending. His ending is probably more audience-pleasing than Simenon's darker finish, though. The flick is definitely worth a watch. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:46 PM (q3u5l) 208
but at the end the aliens just say “aw fukkit we’re outta here” and they smash everything to bits and go home.
Posted by: Tom Servo They watched an episode about the Prime Directive and rearranged their whole society. Thermian out front shoulda toldja. Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:46 PM (gKWVE) 209
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (e/Osv)
Damn you reminded me of my most wanted sequel. Allita : Battle Angel My favorite girl power movie . Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:46 PM (KDPiq) 210
Sort of movie-adjacent. NPR is butthurt because 1) there were fewer abortions on TV this year and 2) it was sometimes portrayed as a shameful thing.
Because of course they're butthurt. Fucking ghouls. https://tinyurl.com/ft4jvzpj Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:47 PM (IG3/x) 211
The sequel we really need is "Sharknado 7", or whatever number they're up to. That's a story and set of characters that really have a lot of potential left.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 08:41 PM (X5Jzz) TweakerShark. Because of all the fentanyl now in the Gulf of America waters. Have it blow into Venezuela and wreak havoc the the commies there. Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:47 PM (WMHh6) 212
Didn't Patrick Stewart play Lenin in "Fall of Eagles"? I could look it up, but I'm lazy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes He was also Karla in the Alec Guinness "Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Spy" Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2025 08:47 PM (lJ0H4) Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 08:48 PM (gDlxJ) 214
Patrick Stewart did a great Macbeth, in a modern updating of the story.
As did Ian McKellen, in a traditional production. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:48 PM (IG3/x) Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 08:48 PM (Kt19C) 216
Yeah that one would probably beva good sequel naybe even prequel fighting on zalem
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:48 PM (bXbFr) 217
True, I was waiting for years for the sequel to Buckaroo Banzai.
I guess it was too far out there and didn't make enough money. I read that the rights to Buckaroo Banzai and any sequels had been sold multiple times, and these were the full rights, not options. Drugs may have been involved - at least that was my understanding. The rights to the IP are completely tangled, and may never be resolved. Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 08:49 PM (rbvCR) 218
Patrick Stewart was in Lynch's Dune too iirc. As Gurney Halleck, although I think that character was better in the miniseries.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (gKWVE) The part 2 of the new Dune made me revert back to liking Lynch's Dune better. Dune part 1 was fantastic though. Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:49 PM (KDPiq) 219
Didn't Patrick Stewart play Lenin in "Fall of Eagles"? I could look it up, but I'm lazy. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:45 PM (kpS4V) Yes Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (tgvbd) 220
One of the few sequels I enjoyed was the Robert Downy Sherlock Holmes A Game of Shadows. If the third one is EVER made I would probably get the DVD. But it's been so long Holmes and Watson will need canes to get around. Maybe they would investigate a murder at their old age home.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (yTvNw) 221
Evening.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (1Yy3c) 222
Caddyshack for spring.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (K1PX7) 223
Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (Kt19C) 224
The series holds up quite well, by the way. Just don't expect a lot of fancy special effects, just some first-rate acting and storytelling.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (IG3/x) I think it still rates as best TV miniseries ever made. The cast was incredible, a list all the way through. The character that stands out the most to me - and I think to everyone who watches it - is John Hurt’s Caligula. This is when I first realized that Hurt was a truly great actor; several versions of Caligula have appeared over the years, but Hurt’s portrayal is do skilled, and so compelling that you can never think of that character any other way. He made it his own. In a similar way, I think the same about Peter Ustinov’s Nero. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (k5cxK) 225
220 One of the few sequels I enjoyed was the Robert Downy Sherlock Holmes A Game of Shadows. If the third one is EVER made I would probably get the DVD. But it's been so long Holmes and Watson will need canes to get around. Maybe they would investigate a murder at their old age home.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (yTvNw) ==== I suspect all hope has been given up for a third one. A prequel series for Prime was announced in the last couple of weeks. Downey Jr. Is just too expensive. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (GBKbO) 226
I actively hated the trailers for that King Arthur movie, because it seemed the epitome of the 'wear a franchise name as a skin-suit' trope. It didn't look remotely Arthurian, it didn't look remotely Brittish... It looked like it was cut from the same cloth that D+ Willow, Netflix Witcher, or Amazon Wheel of Time, and Amazon Rings of Power would later be cut from.
You want to make a fantasy movie/tv show like that, fine. I've watched a few of them. (The Outpost was from that cloth, the Mythica movies were actually better than that cloth, and Curse of the Dragonslayer was better than anything else in the past decade) But for that, you have to sell your work on its own merits. Not by hijacking some other franchise that I already like. Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (Lhaco) 227
223 Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats Careful. Might put an eye out. Posted by: Salman at December 13, 2025 08:52 PM (gKWVE) 228
I just recently binged watched all 10 episodes of Shogun . I commented that it just confirmed my dislike of the Bushido code and a number of other Japanese cultural traditions that still exist.
On that note I also just watched Mr Baseball again with Tom Selleck. Held up great. Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (KDPiq) 229
Yeah i dont think it can work without downey though
And cumberbatchs sherlock is just a sociopath Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (bXbFr) 230
I'm back home and the FYE at the mall is being liquidated. I picked up some movies for super fucking cheap.
A Star Is Born (Gaga/Cooper) Apollo 13 (steelbook) Bad Boys Elizabeth/Elizabeth:The Golden Age Exodus: Gods and Kings Moana Saving Mr. Banks Thor: The Dark World Rush Hour 2 (DVD) The Hound Of The Baskervilles/Pursuit To Algiers (DVD) Mind you, except for Apollo 13 and Bad Boys they're all used. $32 bucks for everything, Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (1Yy3c) 231
World of Warcraft. The ending sets up the sequel's whole story arc.
Why has no one tried Mary Stewart's approach to the Arthurian legend? The Crystal Cave and The Hollow Hills are solid stories. Posted by: Galt at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (9UnaD) 232
167 Sequel to Risky Business has to be made!
Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (y4H1r) I don't know...Rebecca De Mornay 42 years later, might not look quite as hot now.... Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 08:56 PM (/Pwrg) Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 08:56 PM (dE3DB) 234
I don't think it is too early to talk about the body of work that Taylor Sheridan is producing.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:56 PM (sDNVV) 235
I didn't realize how many Guy Ritchie movies I really liked.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:57 PM (KDPiq) 236
I just recently binged watched all 10 episodes of Shogun . I commented that it just confirmed my dislike of the Bushido code and a number of other Japanese cultural traditions that still exist.
On that note I also just watched Mr Baseball again with Tom Selleck. Held up great. Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (KDPiq) If you liked the remake you should watch the original. It's even better. The remake focuses more on the Japanese stuff but the original focuses mostly on the white guy. You won't feel like it's repetitious. Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 08:57 PM (1Yy3c) 237
What's that watermelon doing there?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (Mk6+b) In the book it was noted to be part of a project to make watermelons unbreakable. It was never discussed why. Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 08:57 PM (rbvCR) 238
Stewarts really chewing the scenery in lifeforce
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:57 PM (bXbFr) 239
Always wanted a sequel to the 1999 film "Office Space."
[Never watched either the British or US TV series of the same name.] Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 13, 2025 08:58 PM (YmZuj) 240
Wondered when TJM will get to Kurosawa movies, should dress up as a Samurai
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:59 PM (Ia/+0) 241
The character that stands out the most to me - and I think to everyone who watches it - is John Hurt’s Caligula.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (k5cxK) Oh, yeah. Definitely. To shine that brightly among THAT cast is a formidable challenge, and yet he pulled it off. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (IG3/x) 242
240 Wondered when TJM will get to Kurosawa movies, should dress up as a Samurai
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:59 PM (Ia/+0) ==== Gohan kudesai. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (GBKbO) 243
Oh, TJM, I was mentions to the Horde the other day you need a sign off on your videos. Ex. Jerome Weiselberry, who is female, waves and says a high pitched squeaky "Bye!" You need something like that, but manlier. Maybe like "DYNOMIIIIIIIIITE!"
Also I loved your Christmas suit. Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (1Yy3c) 244
Haven't seen much of Taylor Sheridan's stuff except for Hell or High Water, which was way nifty; that closing scene between Jeff Bridges and Chris Pine alone is worth five times the price of admission.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (q3u5l) 245
John Carter pissed me off. first, it should have been called John Carter of Mars. I understand that Princess of Mars may have implied a girly-movie to certain audiences, but you needed to at least highlight the sci-fi factor. Just calling it John Carter is...bland.
Second, this movie miss a golden opportunity for some truly subversive messaging! The Green Martians have a messed up society that produces a lot of evil people. But there was one Martain who was genuinely good hearted; Sola. And what made her good? She had parents. Not even overly sentimental parents, just parents that acknowledged her and cared for her. And that was all it took to create empathy in a society of psychopaths. That....would have been a truly inspiring message... Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (Lhaco) 246
243 Oh, TJM, I was mentions to the Horde the other day you need a sign off on your videos. Ex. Jerome Weiselberry, who is female, waves and says a high pitched squeaky "Bye!" You need something like that, but manlier. Maybe like "DYNOMIIIIIIIIITE!"
Also I loved your Christmas suit. Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:00 PMdudes ain't. ==== I definitely need something. They just stop now. I like the suit, too! Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 09:01 PM (GBKbO) 247
223 Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (Kt19C) Coming to a theater near you : Monty Python's "Life of Achmed". Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 09:01 PM (X5Jzz) 248
232...true, but I like that all the principal actors are still alive and you could do something interesting. Lana probably became successful at something. Guido is still slumming it. All of Joel's friends could reappear. I like to think Joel became exactly what his parents were and never did say f it and make his move.
Didn't Stewart have a minor part in Excalibur too? Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 09:01 PM (y4H1r) 249
Oh, before I forget to mention, I was at Walmart and saw...
You know what I saw? Tom Hanks coffee. Let that sink in. Tom Hanks coffee. Start off your day with a strong cup of Tom Hanks in your mouth. Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:02 PM (1Yy3c) 250
239 Always wanted a sequel to the 1999 film "Office Space."
[Never watched either the British or US TV series of the same name.] Posted by: ShainS 'The Office' and 'Office Space' were two different things. I'm not aware of a British version of the movie 'Office Space', which was a Mike Judge flick (and one of my favorites). Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:02 PM (rii+a) 251
In the future, Sheridan will be remembered as one of the greats of our time.
Plus he's strong-willed enough that he regularly manages to get non-woke material past the Hollywood screechbots. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:03 PM (IG3/x) 252
John Carter pissed me off. first, it should have been called John Carter of Mars. I understand that Princess of Mars may have implied a girly-movie to certain audiences, but you needed to at least highlight the sci-fi factor. Just calling it John Carter is...bland.
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (Lhaco) ---- Yeah, I thought the same thing. Just adding "of Mars" would have added some important context to the title. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (ESVrU) 253
Office Space', which was a Mike Judge flick (and one of my favorites).
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:02 PM (rii+a) The new King of the Hill season was really good. Made me want a lot more. The story line is just how I imagined it . Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (KDPiq) 254
Two best book to movies IMO are The Great Santini and Captains Courageous ( even though they changed the ending)
Posted by: the way I see it ------- Interesting choices. For personal reasons, I'm not a fan of Conroy, but still a good choice. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (XeU6L) 255
252 ----
Yeah, I thought the same thing. Just adding "of Mars" would have added some important context to the title. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (ESVrU ==== Mars Needs Moms bombed, so Disney got scared of the Mars in the title, removing it, though the art is all JCM anyway, and it says John Carter of Mars at the end. And adding the Mars would have done nothing for its box office. Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 09:05 PM (GBKbO) Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:05 PM (IG3/x) 257
Taylor Sheridan: I just couldn't get into 'Yellowstone'. I couldn't overcome my general loathing of Beth Dutton. Horrible character. On the other hand, I think Sheridan was behind 'Longmire' which was very good. Enjoyed that one a lot.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:06 PM (rii+a) 258
Interesting choices. For personal reasons, I'm not a fan of Conroy, but still a good choice.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (XeU6L) I chose those two because I read the books of course and the movies didn't piss me off with how they told the story and the casting.was great. Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (KDPiq) 259
Office Space is a delight if only for the printer scene (and who hasn't wanted to do that to a printer?). It's a movie that you should probably definitely watch if you work in IT; of course, it's also a movie that maybe you probably shouldn't watch if you work in IT.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (q3u5l) 260
239 Always wanted a sequel to the 1999 film "Office Space."
-- The IT Crowd Brit Com is quite funny Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (dE3DB) 261
243 Oh, TJM, I was mentions to the Horde the other day you need a sign off on your videos. Ex. Jerome Weiselberry, who is female, waves and says a high pitched squeaky "Bye!" You need something like that, but manlier. Maybe like "DYNOMIIIIIIIIITE!"
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (1Yy3c) wow, somebody knows of her!!!! I feel shame for finding her kinda cute...cannot figure out her age...been doing videos for a decade or so....and her camera is like 20 years old... Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (/Pwrg) 262
> I couldn't overcome my general loathing of Beth Dutton. Horrible character.
Sheridan's one weakness (and it is a SERIOUS weakness) is that he just HAS to have an obnoxious blonde woman in every show. Sometimes more than one (e.g., Landman, an otherwise outstanding show). Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:09 PM (IG3/x) 263
'Wind River' was also a Taylor Sheridan flick (I think) and I really enjoyed that movie.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:09 PM (rii+a) 264
While not actual sequels, films that follow because of the original's success are usually terrible. Like the first three Star Wars movies, the three LOTR film are basically one movie. Everything that followed has been mostly disappointing. The Hobbit trilogy has some of the elements the worked for LOTR but the writers got too cute with the script and stretched it out way too long. That Helm Hammerhead animation just became another girl power thing. The Amazon Rings of Power fiasco should have been buried along with the careers of the entire production staff before a frame was filmed.
I can only hope these follow-ons led folks to read the books. Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 09:10 PM (yTvNw) 265
Speaking of John Carter they have never made a good Tarzan movie imo. My second favorite book as a kid.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:11 PM (KDPiq) 266
you need a sign off on your videos.
TJM steps around a corner into view, dressed in a bathrobe. "Are you still here? The video's over. Go home." Posted by: mindful webworker - TJM's Day Off at December 13, 2025 09:11 PM (lbDMw) 267
Taylor Sheridan- I like Tulsa King - it's quite ridiculous and Stallone is having so much fun hamming it uo.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 09:11 PM (gDlxJ) 268
I'm confused, are you talking about The Office, Office Space, or Space 1999?
Actually a mashup of all 3 would be great. Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 09:12 PM (Mk6+b) 269
I think Mike Judge worked in IT though I think he has a degree in Mathematics iirc.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:13 PM (KDPiq) 270
263 'Wind River' was also a Taylor Sheridan flick (I think) and I really enjoyed that movie.
Posted by: Puddleglum ---- I quite liked Wind River. Reminds me of Longmire which then reminds me of Dark Winds. Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 09:14 PM (gDlxJ) 271
Was napping this afternoon but still way past my bedtime
Don't eat too much popcorn And have a good night everyone Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 09:15 PM (Ia/+0) 272
Sorry. The intertubes says Judge's degree is a BS in Physics.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:15 PM (KDPiq) 273
Hobbit trilogy has some of the elements the worked for LOTR but the writers got too cute with the script and stretched it out way too long
I quit watching the Hobbit movies the moment I saw Doctor Who as Radagast, riding a sleigh drawn by giant bunnies. Nope nope noppeity nope. Look for the Hobbit Tolkien Edit someone did. Much better. Posted by: mindful webworker - in a hole in the ground there lived a sequel at December 13, 2025 09:15 PM (lbDMw) 274
Hell or High Water was a hidden gem that I found in the Walmart DVD bin for 5 bucks.
I got it because I like jeff Bridges and Chris Pine, and I really like Ben Foster. Great fucking movie. Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 09:16 PM (0aYVJ) 275
wow, somebody knows of her!!!! I feel shame for finding her kinda cute...cannot figure out her age...been doing videos for a decade or so....and her camera is like 20 years old...
Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (/Pwrg) You should feel deeply ashamed for finding her kinda cute. For starters, she's SUPER cute. Also..*doing his best seagull impression*...MINE! Anywho, my guess is she's mid to late 30s. That gray streak in her hair makes her look...mmmmmmmmm... Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:18 PM (1Yy3c) 276
I can't believe no one has mentioned:
Joker: Folie à Deux (2024) It was sooooooo bad, purely unnecessary, in the incorrect format, and did nothing to enhance the first film. It was sooooooo bad that there was talk that the Director and primary actor did it as a F*ck You to people who enjoyed the first one. Posted by: Orson at December 13, 2025 09:18 PM (dIske) 277
I can only hope these follow-ons led folks to read the books.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 09:10 PM (yTvNw) Long time Tolkien fan here, and I completely agree with you as to the quality of the various things that have been tried. What killed “the Hobbit” for me was that idiotic elf dwarf romance. Gag. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:19 PM (k5cxK) 278
You know what, there was a remastered Blu-ray edition of the theatrical version of theLOTR trilogy. I didn't get it and I'm wondering if I should go back tomorrow and grab it. I don't have the theatrical versions.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:20 PM (1Yy3c) 279
TJM convinced me to rent the Guy Ritchie movie, about King Arthur.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 09:20 PM (ytIvj) 280
I quit watching the Hobbit movies the moment I saw Doctor Who as Radagast, riding a sleigh drawn by giant bunnies. Nope nope noppeity nope.
---- This is the kind of thing one ought to see while tripping on pure Sandoz, not in a big-budget movie based on Tolkien. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:20 PM (kpS4V) Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 09:22 PM (XuXeR) 282
Oh boy! Just saw in the NY Post that Amy Schumer is splitting from her husband. She's available and skinny.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 09:25 PM (D+mpw) 283
Love everything about Excalibur. Love the actors/actresses (though the dude playing Arthur was a bit of a plank), love the music (whoever thought of using Wagner was a genius), love the sets (that final battle between Arthur and Mordred, with the blood-red sun setting in the sea, was incredible). Boorman's direction was decent.
I didn't know about the new(er) movie. Will be watching. Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at December 13, 2025 09:26 PM (E66lT) 284
Someone up thread mentioned Captains Courageous. The 1937 version is the only film where I actually like Spencer Tracy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:26 PM (k5cxK) 285
I always wanted a sequel to "The Once And Future King".
"Now, the problem is, how to divide five Afghans from three mules and have two Englishmen left over." Posted by: Peachy Carnehan at December 13, 2025 09:31 PM (R/m4+) 286
I just want a big budget story accurate Gor film. Rated R with the T&A intact.
I would have really liked a Speed Racer sequel too. Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 13, 2025 09:32 PM (Vh9CX) 287
282 Oh boy! Just saw in the NY Post that Amy Schumer is splitting from her husband. She's available and skinny.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 09:25 PM (D+mpw) . . . and still bugshit crazy. Remember Rule #1. Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 09:33 PM (X5Jzz) 288
I'm watching Along Came Polly right now. In my top five RomCom movies.
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---- Yeah, I thought the same thing. Just adding "of Mars" would have added some important context to the title. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (ESVrU) Even though they removed 'of Mars' from the title, the movie's logo was still a (very stylized) JCM. Not only was it pig-headed executive interference, it was lazy and incomplete executive interference... Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 09:34 PM (Lhaco) Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 09:35 PM (y4H1r) 292
You mean "The Man Who Would Be King?"
Play polo withDravit's head? Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:34 PM (kpS4V) Oops...Yes. That's it. Thanks! Must have had King Arthur on the brain. Posted by: Peachy Carnehan at December 13, 2025 09:36 PM (R/m4+) 293
The sequel we really need:
It's a Miserable Afterlife by Tim Burton Clarence didn't get his wings after all. Posted by: mindful webworker - the original at December 13, 2025 09:37 PM (lbDMw) 294
***But mass audiences don't seem all that keen on it.
--- One Million Years B.C. had a budget of approximately $1.2 million and grossed around $8 million at the box office. This significant return marked it as a financial success, yielding a profit that far exceeded its production costs. Deathstalker (1983) made on a budget of $457,000, $11.9 million worldwide at the box offic --- Although, pre medeval the solution is obvious. The problem with medieval fantasy films is too much development and not enough nekked. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 09:37 PM (ONKca) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 09:40 PM (ONKca) 296
233 ‘Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.’
Which would be funnier? The movie or the unending string of terrorist attacks which would follow it? Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:42 PM (fd80v) 297
This is the kind of thing one ought to see while tripping on pure Sandoz, not in a big-budget movie based on Tolkien.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:20 PM (kpS4V) LOL! Exactly right!! Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:43 PM (k5cxK) Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 09:46 PM (q3u5l) 299
I like John Carter of Mars and the Barsoom novels (I've read the first six so far). But my understanding is that most fans of the novels hate the movie.
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‘ What killed “the Hobbit” for me was that idiotic elf dwarf romance. Gag.’ How did Tolkien ever write something like that? I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:48 PM (fd80v) Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:49 PM (kpS4V) 302
296 233 ‘Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.’
Which would be funnier? The movie or the unending string of terrorist attacks which would follow it? Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:42 PM (fd80v) Spoiler: The unending string of terrorist attacks happen regardless. Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:50 PM (1Yy3c) 303
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Dude...Beth Dutton has a stupendous rack. Why are you paying attention to her character? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2025 09:50 PM (n9ltV) 304
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‘Now, the problem is, how to divide five Afghans from three mules and have two Englishmen left over." ’ I have heard that it’s difficult indeed to divide Afghans from mules. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:50 PM (fd80v) 305
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‘ What killed “the Hobbit” for me was that idiotic elf dwarf romance. Gag.’ How did Tolkien ever write something like that? I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:48 PM (fd80v) He didn't write that. You can read the Hobbit in less time than it takes to watch the movie. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 13, 2025 09:52 PM (xcxpd) 306
> I have heard that it’s difficult indeed to divide Afghans from mules.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:50 PM (fd80v) Usually it's goats. I think mules qualify you as transgender under Afghan law. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:55 PM (IG3/x) 307
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‘ What killed “the Hobbit” for me was that idiotic elf dwarf romance. Gag.’ How did Tolkien ever write something like that? I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:48 PM (fd80v) He didn't write that. You can read the Hobbit in less time than it takes to watch the movie. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo Yea, the book doesn't take long to read. Jackson could have just followed the book, for the most part, made one movie, and it would have worked fine, but nah. Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:56 PM (rii+a) 308
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‘ He didn't write that’ I figured it was some Hollywood bullcrap. ‘You can read the Hobbit in less time than it takes to watch the movie.’ I burnt up the better part of a flight back from Europe watching it. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:56 PM (fd80v) 309
How did Tolkien ever write something like that?
I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:48 PM (fd80v) --- He. Did. NOT!!! basically the story was bent over a pinball machine and sodomized by shit stains hellbent on wrecking all the things. Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 09:58 PM (0aYVJ) 310
I got to see a Q&A about storytelling back in my Sundance Film Fest era, and Stanton was one of the panelists. He's clearly brilliant, and incredibly passionate about stories. Maybe he should have started with a smaller live action movie before taking on this project. The sequels sound like they would have had cool plots!
I still don't get why films like this fail, and Avatar makes a billion with every movie. It boggles my understanding. The only thing I can think of is James Cameron understands showmanship, and how to sell a story in buzz and marketing before it hits theaters. Maybe if it had been titled "Princess of Mars," it would have sold it better in the marketing? Treasure Planet is another one that was so brilliant in what it did, for boy's adventure and making a pirate story sci-if, but then bombed so bad. Boys need adventure films, and action, and princesses to save in another castle, and heroes to emulate. Hopefully that vacuum gets filled with positive stories at some point. A new Star Wars, a new indie jones. The directors Spielberg and Lucas mentored never really took up that baton. Posted by: LizLem at December 13, 2025 10:00 PM (gWBY1) 311
199 70 I liked John Carter as well , but yes it needed way more boobs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (k5cxK) Just to be clear, do you mean more women exposing their boobs, or hot Martian women with more than two boobs? Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (X5Jzz) yes Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 13, 2025 10:01 PM (xcxpd) 312
Movie's over. ONT club is open. Bring your party hat.
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‘ How did Tolkien ever write something like that? I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail. --- He. Did. NOT!!! basically the story was bent over a pinball machine and sodomized by shit stains hellbent on wrecking all the things.’ This was the response I was expecting. LOL. Tolkien had too much self respect to put something this ridiculous in his stories. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 10:02 PM (fd80v) 314
194 I miss Michael Bay.
The Rock is a great movie. Armageddon is a good, enjoyable movie. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (zZu0s) ----- He should've gotten an Oscar for direction for the first Transformers movie. That movie is extremely well paced and expertly handles multiple story threads, better than Peter Jackson did in LOTR. I'm not even a big Bay fanboy buy I'll give credit to where credit is due. Both Bay produced TMNT movies are great too. The first better than the second, but the opening of the second is absolutely epic. Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 13, 2025 10:04 PM (Vh9CX) 315
Yea, the book doesn't take long to read. Jackson could have just followed the book, for the most part, made one movie, and it would have worked fine, but nah.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:56 PM (rii+a) ---- It was a studio greed thing, they first required a two parter then doubled down on their greed and demanded a trilogy. Del Toro then quit and Jackson had to go back into the director's chair. That is what I recall. Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (Vh9CX) 316
My hot take on the Hobbit movies: Everything about Tauriel is fanfiction. However, it is very well-written fanfiction! The self-insert character is super-competent, but still has a valid reason for feeling oppressed; she has reached the limit of her career advancement. Her king is not unkind, but still dismissive of her. The chemistry between her and Kili is natural; he's a landless and poor (despite being a prince) and he's starstruck by her beauty and her homeland. She yearns to see the world beyond her forest, and he's a charming guy who' seen all the things she dreams about...It's got everything you could ask for in a fanfic!
Unfortunately, THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE FANFICTION! This is supposed to be an adaptation of The Hobbit! We only get these movies once in a generation, and you just ruined our generation's chance! Yet another movie ruined by studio demands. If they had just waited a few years, and let Peter Jackson finish a script before filming, and not force the project into an unnecessary trilogy... There were good moments in those movies, but a lot of unnecessary nonsense, as well. Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (Lhaco) 317
Count me as a fan of "John Carter". Good script, good acting, excellent special effects. Its failure, though, came in part from having a lead who was handsome and athletic, but lacking leading-man charisma; and in part due to dreadful marketing. (It amazes me that the word "Mars" appeared nowhere.) It was fun, though, to see Ciaran Hinds and James Purefoy from "Rome" wearing kilts and swords again. Also, pulling ERB himself into the story at the end was a nice touch.
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>>> 233 ‘Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.’
You know, that's an intriguing point. Stories from the Bible have been made and remade. Shakespeare and Austen have been redone so many ways; some of my faves where the teen romcoms I grew up on in the 90s. Are there any beloved stories from the Quran that have blended into the fabric of literature? Been made into actual good films? Remade into a modern story? Or is the cult of Islam so strong that those stories can't be shared to the larger culture? Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2025 01:43 AM (gWBY1) Hobby Thread - December 13, 2025 [Tannenbaum Rex]![]() Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. As previewed, the Ace of Spades Wheel of Hobbies (TM) landed on Christmas Ornaments. Last week, the call went out for Horde Christmas ornament submissions. Are you thinking "I'm a grinch that did not submit an ornament, but I am eager to see what others submitted. I can't wait to get into the content!" I knew it. Enjoy.When I lived in Germany as a teenager, my parents would take us kids to the Christkindlmarkt in Bayreuth. They'd buy us each a Christmas ornament for the tree. I always wanted a giant nutcracker, but I had to make do with this little guy. He's standing on the box of the rest of my ornaments. ![]() I foolishly forgot to put the Christmas ornament back in the box after I snapped a picture of it. This morning, I discovered that the ornament had been knocked off the box onto the floor of my dining area and had broken in two. Unfortunately, I can only find the top half. If I can ever find the bottom half, there's a good chance I can glue it back together. I'm afraid the bottom half has been batted around so much it's disappeared into the void (like the countless ping pong balls I have scattered in my house). This right here is why I don't ever have a Christmas tree. Our neighbor has a laser-cutting device and made these 3 snowflake ornaments for us last year. Pretty cool! Just slide the pieces together for 3-D effect.
![]() The wooden ones were a farm-store find. They looked handmade at first glance, but alas, I fear they were merely assembled by hand after mass-production of the parts. Probably printed on the thin wood and die-cut, then glued together. Still, they are so cute that I bought 2 of each plus extra cows and sheep. ![]() The folded stars in the box were made by me in Cub Scouts around 1968. The Snoopy was re-purposed from a model kit about the same time and the glass clam shells and house are survivors from my parents collection and were old in 1968. ![]() The two Hallmark "Beagle Scout" ornaments are near and dear to my heart as an Eagle Scout and Eagle Scout dad and former adult leader. ![]() Mrs D purchased this when we were stationed in Germany (long ago) in Rothenburg au der Tauber. The store is called Katie Wolfharts. Known for their Christmas stuff. We have a bunch of their ornaments but this silly little thing just appeals to me. ![]() We buy an ornament to commemorate every year. 2021 was the year Bravo and Charlie were born. ![]() My grandmother, crocheted this tree skirt when I married in 1978. We’ve placed it under our tree every year since then. The wooden tree was made by a local woodworker; it's the newest addition to my Christmas tree forest and it's keeping the skirt on the table for its photo. ![]() I made the ornaments from a pattern in McCall's Needlework magazine in the mid-1980s. They are the first ornaments hung on our tree each year. ![]() The cat is is scampywife's ornament from 1975, from Santa. She has one from 1978 and 1981 also. Kind of fun. ![]() Collage: Our tradition... kids/parents each get a new ornament every year. Often tied to what is going on in life. Kids events, sports, hobbies, new job, etc., will be the ornament theme. Ma and Pa, we get things that fit our personality quirks. ![]() One of my favorite ornaments. Flintstones set from the 70s. We had a set of four. I have two and my sister has two.
![]() The best Hallmark ornaments were from the 1980s. This is one of them (with two sides). They were simple, heartfelt and cherished every year I put them on the tree.
I made these to give as gifts to friends and family in 1996 - a "bell" made from a tiny terra cotta pot that I decorated. Got the idea from something I saw in a magazine that year. ![]() This is a drum ornament that I made in second grade. It was a class project - each of us made one (using an empty wooden spool, some batting, a piece of fabric, and some glitter) to give to our parents to put on the tree that Christmas. My Mom put that on the tree every year, and when I set up my own house, she gave it to me to put on my Christmas tree. Our poor kids have had to hear that silly story every year when the tree gets put up. ![]() I'm all-in on celebrating the semiquincentennial, having started in 2023 with a series of posts on bicentennial cookbooks, then centennial cookbooks in 2024, and, this year, starting the 250th early with Samuel Young's speech on the 42nd anniversary (the meaning of life!) of the Battle of Bennington. "All nations, from time immemorial, have had their days of commemoration. These days have marked the character of the nation itself. Among the Pagan nations they commemorate the birth day of some supposed God or Goddess. In Monarchies they commemorate the birthday of some favorite Prince or Princess. In Aristocracies they commemorate the birth day of some splendid Nobleman. But in the United States of America we commemorate the birth day of our Liberties." So when I saw the Melania Trump 250th collection, I decided to take a chance on the star, which looked very elegant in the site's photos. It just arrived a few weeks ago, and I'm very happy with it. But I was even more pleasantly surprised - though I probably shouldn't have been surprised - to see "Made in the USA" on the side. ![]() My fav is the photo ornament with a picture of my son age 2-1/2 years in his Halloween costume as a tiger. ![]() The other one is a gorgeous Alaska ornament from The Kobuk Shop which is a historical little treasure located in the oldest building in Anchorage, also known by its original name "Kimball's Dry Goods." Every ornament on my tree is distinct. Some would say it's chaotic. ![]() The sound of Christmas in our house, a "Light and Magic" Hallmark ornament from 1989. Kringles Workshop. Plugs into your string of lights and the little elves saw and hammer, and the little gears whir and clack. We had that on our tree since I was 8. The original finally stopped working shortly before I married my wife, and damned if I didn't find another one for our first tree. And when that one gave up the ghost my wife bought another for me. I'm sure when this one goes we'll find another. Wouldn't be Christmas without this clacking in the background. ![]() The following are the nice brass carburetor floats that I hang on our tree : 2 Carter (a WDG and WD-O) floats from Hudsons and a Rochester Q-Jet float from a old GM I can't recall. They're shiny brass. ![]() I bought this Hallmark ornament two months ago but it's already my all-time favorite. I didn't even put it on the tree. It's on my nightstand so I can see it frequently, and it's staying there all year. ![]() Coming straight out of the early 70s and my childhood is my treasured paper mache blue cow that was given to me by my mother. The "flower power" decoration provides the finishing touch. She always is prominently displayed at eye level. ![]() The first year we were married my husband and I invited our parents over to our place for Thanksgiving. I made my first turkey; my MIL asked for the turkey carcass to take home, from which she made luscious turkey noodle soup. Come Christmas, she presented me with the intact wishbone from my first turkey, spray-painted gold, covered with green fuzz and tied up with red yarn to be used as a Christmas tree ornament. That was 45 years ago and one leg of the wishbone has broken off, but it's still my favorite! ![]() These are two ornaments I made. They were inspired by ornaments I saw on Pinterest.
![]() This fish is a very sentimental favorite, the poor thing is pretty time worn. It was on my grandmother's tree when she was a child, in the early 1900's. I suspect it's even older since her family was originally from Germany and might have either brought it or have it sent. It's about five inches from mouth to tail tip, made of blown glass. The original red coloring can just be seen, while the silver mesh over the body is barely there now. I still treasure it! ![]() ![]()
![]() Words of wisdom: "Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD). If you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, contribute something from your personal hobbying. We will feature a different theme next time. What are you hobbying? We love showing off Horde hobbying. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Handmade are the best ornaments.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:31 PM (uQesX) 2
Welcome Hobbiests
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:31 PM (Ia/+0) 3
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My grandmother ( dad's mother) made probably thousands in her life with a hard foam base then completely covered with sequins and things Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (Ia/+0) 4
Sorry for you loss, Perfessor. It's got to be hard to replace cats.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (uQesX) 5
Those reindeer are awfully close together. That better not be AI.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 05:36 PM (vFG9F) 6
Was this morning doing last weeks thread, processing lead scraps. Made 50 bullets and another ingot more than 10 pounds.
Should somehow weigh them. Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:38 PM (Ia/+0) 7
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My grandmother ( dad's mother) made probably thousands in her life with a hard foam base then completely covered with sequins and things Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (Ia/+0) Somewhere deep in the boxes are a few handmades from school days of me and one of my bros. Wife likes new stuff, so all those and my grandparents 40s and 50s Shiny Brite ornaments are dust gathering in the garage. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:43 PM (uQesX) 8
Props to anyone who can 'Name That Float'!
Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 05:45 PM (ZfTMG) 9
Afternoon, Hobby Horde, and TRex! After freezing my azz off running the snowblower, I am seated at the desk putting coins in rolls. I found a 1944 Wheat penny!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 05:46 PM (npFr7) Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2025 05:47 PM (RQW+z) 11
Props to anyone who can 'Name That Float'!
Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 05:45 PM (ZfTMG) The only one I know is "Root Beer." Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:47 PM (uQesX) 12
Ages ago, our Christmas tree had about a dozen ornaments with various themed dioramas inside. They were not large.. maybe 2 - 5 inches tall/round. Obviously plastic.
Haven't see such since. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 05:48 PM (NwnyJ) 13
Navy about to tie Army, x-tra point will put them ahead if they score
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:50 PM (Ia/+0) 14
7 so all those and my grandparents 40s and 50s Shiny Brite ornaments are dust gathering in the garage.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:43 PM *** Sad trombone... Posted by: TRex - dino is old too at December 13, 2025 05:51 PM (IQ6Gq) 15
Those reindeer are awfully close together. That better not be AI.
Posted by: fd ******* Another fun Hallmark ornament from the '80s. Definitely not AI. Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 05:51 PM (IQ6Gq) 16
Very Hispanic/Filipino area. Lots of yard decorations. Yeah, nothing says the birth of Christ like a deflated inflatable barny the dinosaur or a green grinch demon. What happened to creches and nativity scenes?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (Kt19C) 17
If we could find a tree large enough for ALL of the Moron Horde Christmas ornaments, it would be the bestest Christmas tree ever!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (ESVrU) 18
Sad trombone...
Posted by: TRex - dino is old too at December 13, 2025 05:51 PM (IQ6Gq) A lot of them say West Germany. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (uQesX) Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (h4uy9) Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 05:56 PM (Kt19C) 21
VTK, that's a great idea, to commemorate the birth of your cats. Both of mine were born in '22, so they could share an ornament.
We had the standard ornaments when I was a kid at home. One thing we did have that was not a tree dangler was a Grumpy Santa -- a painted ceramic figure, about the size of a coin bank (and maybe he was one), that Mom had found in a downtown store like Woolworth's. She popped him atop the television -- or on a shelf after we had cats -- and she found him amusing. I must have missed it among her things when I cleaned out her apartment after she passed. I have never seen another one, and a search for "grumpy Santa" on eBay produces zilch. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 05:56 PM (wzUl9) 22
Sad trombone...
Posted by: TRex - dino is old too at December 13, 2025 05:51 PM (IQ6Gq) A lot of them say West Germany. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (uQesX) --- I have one that's a silhouette of a nativity scene carved out of olive wood. It says it was made in Bethlehem, which I thought was pretty neat. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:57 PM (ESVrU) 23
I have one that's a silhouette of a nativity scene carved out of olive wood. It says it was made in Bethlehem, which I thought was pretty neat.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:57 PM (ESVrU) There used to be a group from Bethlehem who came around in the fall offering carved sets. Haven't seen or heard about them in years. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:59 PM (uQesX) 24
I don't think I've ever seen car parts used as Christmas ornaments. It probably would not go over well here. Mrs fd would tell me to get my own tree.
My grandmother had some of those glass clamshell ornaments and others like them. She also had a color wheel, which makes any beautiful Christmas tree more beautifuler. Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 05:59 PM (vFG9F) 25
I almost forgot, bought a lot of ceramic ornaments that were pure white then painted them, wife painted some as well. They were our first ornaments for a Christmas tree. Haven't seen light of day since 1st Christmas with kittens. Never put one up again.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:00 PM (Ia/+0) 26
Very Hispanic/Filipino area. Lots of yard decorations. Yeah, nothing says the birth of Christ like a deflated inflatable barny the dinosaur or a green grinch demon. What happened to creches and nativity scenes?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (Kt19C) I don't care as much about Grinch decor, as it is a Christmas story, although subtle. Don't understand why this gnome stuff is coming out, plus dogs, cats, penguins - well, I know how that came about - or other animals that aren't associated with Christmas or winter. But, eh, what can you do? Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:01 PM (uQesX) 27
old brass carb floats for the win. love it.
and my spring boxes are "push" (compression) and "pull" (extension). Posted by: cmeat at December 13, 2025 06:01 PM (R11M+) 28
My maternal grandfather, being poor and on a small retirement income, used to make ornaments from seashells and sand dollars, spray painted and glittered. He’d drill a small hole and make a loop with fishing line to hang on the tree.
I wish some still existed. Perhaps I will make my Own someday. Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 06:02 PM (mT+6a) 29
Back in the day, we had glass ornaments on our Christmas tree. But after they were getting lower in number by attrition, thanks to our two poodles (who would play with them, batting at those on the lower branches), we needed to change our approach.
So, way back in 1986, my parents got a set of wooden ornaments which have proven to be dog-proof (so long as they are kept out of the range of puppies). Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 06:02 PM (4786I) 30
Most of the ornaments I made as a kid are on our tree. I took great care of those but blew up almost all of my GI Joe figures, trying to create authentic battles with Cobra.
Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 13, 2025 06:02 PM (31p00) 31
22 I have one that's a silhouette of a nativity scene carved out of olive wood. It says it was made in Bethlehem, which I thought was pretty neat.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:57 PM *** Maybe sometime we'll do a nativity set theme. That could be quite interesting. Posted by: TRex - dino is usually unfairly omitted from manger scenes at December 13, 2025 06:03 PM (IQ6Gq) 32
The Grinch was a man ahead of his time -- a visionary! A prophet without honor in his own country!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:03 PM (wzUl9) 33
32 The Grinch was a man ahead of his time -- a visionary! A prophet without honor in his own country!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:03 PM (wzUl9) The Grinch is my homie. : ) Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 06:05 PM (4786I) 34
i miss bubble lights on the trees.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 06:06 PM (4786I) 35
I have about 30 years of the Hallmark Star Trek ornaments going back to the first year they issued them. I haven't put them on a tree in years, mostly because I don't want to bother with all the work of unpacking, plugging in or replacing batteries, and repackaging at the end of the season.
Posted by: PabloD at December 13, 2025 06:08 PM (Epuwl) 36
Tree lights certainly have changed often in my life time. Those big bulbs to led and many in-between
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:08 PM (Ia/+0) 37
This would be a perfect post to like Dave in Tx and his ugly Christmas Tree essay.
It was hysterical. Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 06:10 PM (mT+6a) 38
17 If we could find a tree large enough for ALL of the Moron Horde Christmas ornaments, it would be the bestest Christmas tree ever!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (ESVrU) ----------- That sounds very Mary Lou Who of you. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 13, 2025 06:11 PM (lCxV1) 39
> This would be a perfect post to like Dave in Tx and his ugly Christmas Tree essay.
It was hysterical. Posted by: nurse ratched ---------- "the crap tree" Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 06:12 PM (NwnyJ) 40
I miss bubble lights on the trees.
We didnt have those. But I do miss my dad carefully going over the strands of those big incandescent bulbs to find out which ones were bad. Pretty sure he doesnt miss that. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 06:13 PM (EXyHK) 41
Great thread! As I get older, I get ever more joy at hanging an ornament that has some sentimental value to me.
Of course homemade ornaments from loved ones climb up the sentimental value track much faster. Posted by: HappyFun at December 13, 2025 06:14 PM (d2+05) 42
Awesome Horde!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 13, 2025 06:14 PM (2WIwB) 43
i miss bubble lights on the trees.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 06:06 PM (4786I) They're available on Amazon. Not sure about vintage ones. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:14 PM (uQesX) 44
And there is absolutely nowhere to go to eat or have a drink. Posted by: IrishEi Walk into the Marriott. Bar and restaurant on the 1st floor on the right just past the entry. Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 06:16 PM (QVmho) 45
Navy wins 16 ,- 15
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:16 PM (Ia/+0) Posted by: Vendette at December 13, 2025 06:16 PM (pJK38) 47
Go Navy, Beat Army...Semper Fortis
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 06:17 PM (IQ6Gq) 48
I wish I had found a few painted ornaments and sent them in. I knew the topic was requested
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:18 PM (Ia/+0) 49
NAVY 17-16!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:18 PM (LHPAg) 50
old brass carb floats for the win. love it.
and my spring boxes are "push" (compression) and "pull" (extension). Posted by: cmeat at December 13, 2025 06:01 PM (R11M+) Heh. I have several bin boxes of both compression and tension springs. Need another for torsion and leaf springs. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 06:18 PM (npFr7) Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2025 06:20 PM (9iRTe) 52
number 8
You don't know a Rochester when you see one? Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM (q6tQZ) 53
I can't find my glue gun. My glue gun is missing.
I've looked everywhere but it's not there. I found the Oatmeal carton in which I stored it but only one one inch piece of glue was there. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM (ONKca) 54
52 number 8
You don't know a Rochester when you see one? Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM Comin' Boss! Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:24 PM (LHPAg) 55
Tree lights certainly have changed often in my life time. Those big bulbs to led and many in-between
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 *** I remember those big hot bulbs. They are the kind of thing that would be outdoor lights now, if those aren't LEDs too. We had a real tree every year when I lived at home, and so we never left the lights on at night or when there was not at least one person awake to watch. Never had a fire, thankfully. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:24 PM (wzUl9) 56
We're festooning the wee vessel with Christmas lights and ornaments to celebrate the annual Christmas Boat Parade about to start in 2.5 hours. The ornaments are of the Chinese use-once-and-toss variety but I'm sure they're all biodegradable and stuff.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 13, 2025 06:25 PM (lCxV1) 57
The ornaments are of the Chinese use-once-and-toss variety but I'm sure they're all biodegradable and stuff.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) (Won't mention forever plastics) Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:26 PM (q6tQZ) 58
You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM Comin' Boss! Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 *** Armed robber: "Your money or your life!" Jack Benny (after one of his classic pauses): "I'm thinking, I'm thinking!" Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (wzUl9) 59
48 I wish I had found a few painted ornaments and sent them in. I knew the topic was requested
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:18 PM (Ia/+0) ---------- Further such oversights will require a personal meeting with the Dean of Commenters and the possible loss of your cardboard-level privileges. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (lCxV1) 60
Oh, you fancy spring sorters. I guess you need something to do when it's -5 degrees outside.
In addition to two boxes of springs I have another drawer with real little springs, and shelves of bigger springs. You'd be surprised how often I have to access my cache of springs, and how important springs really are to our modern way of life. Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (vFG9F) 61
56 We're festooning the wee vessel with Christmas lights and ornaments to celebrate the annual Christmas Boat Parade about to start in 2.5 hours. The ornaments are of the Chinese use-once-and-toss variety but I'm sure they're all biodegradable and stuff.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 13, 2025 06:25 PM (lCxV1) Toss over the side? Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (LHPAg) 62
I can't find my glue gun. My glue gun is missing.
I've looked everywhere but it's not there. I found the Oatmeal carton in which I stored it but only one one inch piece of glue was there. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM (ONKca) Who else had access to to it? Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 06:28 PM (Wj1DV) 63
Last year a local suburb had its "Jeep" Christmas parade, with Jeep owners decorating their vehicles and rolling them along a route within the town. Shatteringly loud stereos, of course -- I can imagine the passengers were partly deaf afterward -- but it was a lot of fun to see how people dolled up their off-roaders.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:30 PM (wzUl9) 64
I can't find my glue gun. My glue gun is missing.
I've looked everywhere but it's not there. I found the Oatmeal carton in which I stored it but only one one inch piece of glue was there. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 * Who else had access to to it? Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 *** And who had motive? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:30 PM (wzUl9) 65
I'm seriously considering a binocular 10x and 20x stereo microscope for my electronics bench. It should help placing micro-components (SMT) on circuit boards for a couple of kit builds that I plan to start constructing soon. Hoping Santa is gracious enough to have it under the tree in a couple of weeks. I've dropped more than enough hints to one of his helpers over the last few months.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 13, 2025 06:31 PM (abIsI) 66
You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM Comin' Boss! Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 *** Armed robber: "Your money or your life!" Jack Benny (after one of his classic pauses): "I'm thinking, I'm thinking!" Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (wzUl9) Note for any young(er) person who might be on the page: Jack Benny was a famous comedian who died 51 years ago. He had a butler named Rodchester. Rochester was black and I am sure the whole thing would be racist now. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:33 PM (zZu0s) 67
Did the perp lick the oatmeal container?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:34 PM (zZu0s) 68
In addition to two boxes of springs I have another drawer with real little springs, and shelves of bigger springs. You'd be surprised how often I have to access my cache of springs, and how important springs really are to our modern way of life.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (vFG9F) The Native Americans used every bit of the spring. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:34 PM (uQesX) 69
Don't even get me started on torsion bars.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 06:35 PM (vFG9F) 70
Our 15 year old microwave went tango uniform, had to order a new one from Lowes. Merry Christmas, so instead of steaks tonight, we are eating boiled cabbage. Praise the Lord!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:36 PM (LHPAg) 71
Those ornaments are wonderful, especially with all the sentimental attachments. We don't have a tree up this year and the boxes with the ornaments are buried, so no photos. We have a few very old family ornaments. They weren't new when I was born so they have some serious age on them. (I'm amazed they have survived.) We have some hand crocheted snowflakes, heavily starched, from a dear friend, now gone. So simple and so special. We also have some handmade ones: clothes pins dressed up like characters from Charles Dickens. Mrs. JTB's friends, newly married and not much money,
(like most of us back then) used what they had and used wonderful imagination. They are wonderful for their own sake and for the memories. Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 06:36 PM (yTvNw) 72
54 52 number 8
You don't know a Rochester when you see one? Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM Comin' Boss! Not a Q-Jet... 50-50 shot now Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 06:37 PM (pDcsL) 73
Note: Jack Benny had better comedic timing than anyone alive today.
Honestly, thinking about it, I cannot think of a comedian today that uses the pause. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:37 PM (zZu0s) 74
Honestly, thinking about it, I cannot think of a comedian today that uses the pause.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:37 PM (zZu0s) And apparently a very nice man. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:38 PM (uQesX) Posted by: runner at December 13, 2025 06:38 PM (g47mK) 76
The Native Americans used every bit of the spring.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:34 PM And the cabbage. The heart was reserved for Ten Bears and he gave me half it. -Outlaw Josey Wales Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (LHPAg) 77
Awesome ornaments and backstories, Horde. Thanks for the fun topic, Dino.
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (46ZIb) 78
Honestly, thinking about it, I cannot think of a comedian today that uses the pause.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:37 PM (zZu0s) I can’t think of any comedians today, except for those from the 90’s that have mostly retired. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (k5cxK) 79
I can’t think of any comedians today, except for those from the 90’s that have mostly retired.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (k5cxK) Hmmm. Good point. I am vaguely aware of Bill Burr and that he is a retard who sells out to Qatar. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:42 PM (zZu0s) 80
Those reindeer are awfully close together. That better not be AI.
Posted by: fd ******* Another fun Hallmark ornament from the '80s. Definitely not AI. Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba +++++ Reminds me of inprocessing at basic training.... Everybody! Get on that bench, sit like on a bike. Get closer! Closer! Dick-n-ass !! Dick-n-ass !! Looks around... Benches had plenty of room to sit normal Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2025 06:43 PM (/lPRQ) 81
69 Don't even get me started on torsion bars.
Posted by: fd Our new Chevy 1 ton has torsion bars for the front end. They have to be 2-2.5 inches thick. Our RV trailer also has torsion axles. Smooth as butter going down the road. Much better than a leaf spring suspension. Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 13, 2025 06:45 PM (abIsI) 82
75
NAVY!! ⚓️ (this is a good sign, Navy won in 2024, Trump won. 2026 is looking good. that's all.) Posted by: runner at December 13, 2025 06:38 PM (g47mK) The VF-84 Hornet themed uniform was a great touch last year. Maybe a Seabee D-8 dozer theme would have been good this year? Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:45 PM (LHPAg) 83
Amazing how objects can bring back such clear memories and Christmas ornaments have to be near the top of the list. When we bring them out I can recall the trees from my childhood and the excitement of decorating for Christmas. Or memories of the people who gifted them. Even the original boxes that hold the pieces, now over 70 years old, evoke the memories.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 06:47 PM (yTvNw) 84
Having to pick just one ornament to feature was a challenge...we have ornaments from 3 of 4 sets of grandparents, both parents, tons of friends, ones we've collected domestically and internationally, as well as handmade ones over the years...each one has it's own story...adds to the magic of the season...and Nova Local - no way in the world does this tree get decorated in 45 minutes!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 06:47 PM (IQ6Gq) 85
Anyone have an aluminum Christmas tree?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:50 PM (uQesX) 86
Army/Navy game was down to the wire. Fun to watch. Meanwhile, it looks like Brown U. caught a case of mass-shooter this afternoon.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 06:50 PM (vV6n9) 87
Anyone have an aluminum Christmas tree?
Posted by: OrangeEnt ************ Pains me to admit it, but yes...my mother for some unknown reason thought this would be a good idea...even came with that color wheel...offended me every single season.... Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 06:51 PM (IQ6Gq) 88
You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY -------- I have a Stromberg 97 ceramic mug. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 06:52 PM (XeU6L) 89
Before I forget, there was a bagpiper in full kit playing carols in the Lowes parking lot today. When I dropped some cash in his bucket, I almost requested Scotland The Brave, but nah, this was his show and he was doing great.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:52 PM (LHPAg) 90
Anyone have an aluminum Christmas tree?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:50 PM (uQesX) I saw one in a home movie at my grandparents (Dad side.) To a young kid, it looked cool as hell with the color wheel. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:55 PM (zZu0s) 91
Ah yes, the old Noma™ series string lights.. One burns out, they ALL go out.
Parents had those, when I was little. There were fancy replacement/upgrade bulbs too: snowmen, churches, trees. Mom kept the burned-out shaped ones, just 'cause they were pretty ornaments even without light. Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 06:55 PM (rdVOm) 92
Best hobby thread ever
Thank you morons for sharing all those Christmas mementos tcn's little boy is adorable. Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 06:56 PM (A0sqA) 93
Thanks, TRex for the Hobby Thread, and this one was a lot of fun. Got here to late to really join in, and we got the ornaments out too late to get a photo to send. But I still enjoyed this very much.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at December 13, 2025 07:00 PM (H9K3b) 94
Glad the 'bubble' candles got mentioned. I've always been curious about the fluid therein. Alcohol?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 07:00 PM (XeU6L) 95
I do not understand these women who don't want their kid's and husband's ornaments on the tree. Get another fucking tree for your sterile, matchy-matchy tree.
And if your babies are at the age where they hang all the ornaments in tbe same place, so be it. I mean, adjust them if any are in danger of being damaged or broken, but is there anything more fun than walking into a home and being able to tell immediately that there are toddlers and wee girls and boys who helped decorate?! You're not getting these years back, when they're so proud of thei little macaroni ornaments, and so thrilled to hang them all by themselves. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:01 PM (Vvh2V) 96
Fun to see everyone's ornaments and the stories behind them. Thanks, Horde.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 07:01 PM (6p0Jv) 97
We had a sort of aluminum tree. It was shaped like the metallic ones, but was white flocked. Mated it with red balls and tear-drops. And the color wheel, of course.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 07:01 PM (uQesX) 98
I have a star tree topper that throws out a disco light effect on the ceiling. It's fun. I should have thought to send a pic.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 07:05 PM (6p0Jv) 99
Thanks for the Hobby Thread T-Rex!
Great ornaments and two fantastic tree skirts! Sharing the spirit of the season is a priceless gift. Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 13, 2025 07:05 PM (kB9dk) 100
We collected several large nutcrackers soldiers when we lived in Germany. They are in storage now, but when we find our retirement home they will emerge again.
Just glad that were in Germany back when it was not infested with hajjis. Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 07:08 PM (0aYVJ) 101
Just glad that were in Germany back when it was not infested with hajjis.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Only Murcans, ammiright? Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 07:11 PM (q6tQZ) 102
Any chance of a ' do it again' thread for next week?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (sDNVV) 103
Thank you so much for this thread, TRex! For the first time in my life, I didn't decorate, so our ornaments weren't out to photograph, but I hope to participate next year, should you choose to repeat the idea. I have multiple trees, full of ornaments, and yes, a few trees are somewhat themed, but if we had kids, those handmade ones would be front and center, along with the ones from my grandparent's tree, and those my mama collected for as when I was a little girl, shabby though they are.
You gawt-damned morons brought tears to my eyes with your stories. And tcn's little tiger! 🥰🥰🥰 and Viktor's kitties! I hope you look at that ornament, and remember how cute he was, tcn...and that it helps you sane while he's doing his best to drive you insane right now! Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (Vvh2V) 104
off topic: oh no:
Amy Schumer and her husband have decided to go their separate ways. In an Instagram post shared on Friday, Dec. 12, the 44-year-old "Kinda Pregnant" star shared that she and her husband, chef Chris Fischer, have decided to split after seven years of marriage. "Blah blah blah Chris and I have made the difficult decision to end our marriage after 7 years. We love each other very much and will continue to focus on raising our son. We would appreciate people respecting our privacy at this time," she wrote in the caption. Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (CWTWj) 105
I'm the sole proprietor of the gun. Only the rats would have motive and it's too heave for them.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (ONKca) 106
Basically most of the day was spent prototyping a case in blender for the Quark Mini Linux computer and 3D printing it, and also creating terminal aliases and zsh helper functions.
Who knew you could spend an hour deciding how you want your backup time stamp formatted. For moments like this, Gin helps immensely. Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 07:13 PM (XV/Pl) 107
Anybody knows what's Presdent Obama be doing foor Quanzar this yeer???
Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 13, 2025 07:14 PM (38587) 108
GRRRR. I forgot to submit. I have one of the ornaments I inherited from my maternal grandparents, the balance perished in the great tree crash of 2008. A small glass glass horn in pastels. Also, we have hubby nec's spaceman ornament that his parents gave him decades ago. Also, the hen eggs I painted and donate to a local historic site. The hen was a runt and produces eggs about a bit bigger then a quail egg.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2025 07:15 PM (2NHgQ) 109
He had a butler named Rodchester. Rochester was black and I am sure the whole thing would be racist now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone ------ Also, he was part of the Amon n' Andy company. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 07:15 PM (ONKca) 110
re 107: hot dog
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 13, 2025 07:16 PM (CWTWj) 111
Love that Christmas tree skirt Grateful made. And thanks to TRex for the thread. So many lovely memories that were shared.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 07:16 PM (yTvNw) 112
Guy in his yard volunteered about his lit up nativity scene "we had a light in the Virgin Mary, but she burned out".
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 07:17 PM (Kt19C) 113
102 Any chance of a ' do it again' thread for next week?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM *** So it is written, so it shall be done. Second chance for those that missed this one. Go ahead and send your ornaments. To keep it lively, the Hobby Thread mailbox will accept other Christmas decorations, crafts, nativity scenes, etc. Posted by: TRex - Christkindlmarkt Dino at December 13, 2025 07:18 PM (IQ6Gq) 114
re 109: and the kid from the little rascals stymie later did some episodes of 'sanford and son'
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 13, 2025 07:18 PM (CWTWj) 115
We always had our three children hang the ornaments. Who cares if things aren't symmetrical. It is family time, not little miss perfect time. Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:19 PM (3ek7K) 116
TRex, thank you.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:19 PM (sDNVV) 117
Thank you for second chances for those who were tardy, TRex.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 07:20 PM (6p0Jv) 118
I love all the Horde ornaments! I don't decorate, except last year for my mom. But I have many ornaments (mine and now many of hers). I have a few from Russia. They have never made an appearance on a tree because they're definitely not cat-proof. My most treasured ornament is one that my SIL had made for Jesse and me for the only Christmas we had together. It hangs on the doorknob of my bedroom year round.
Last year we put up a little fake Charlie Brown tree, and only with non-breakable ornaments. It was up from before Thanksgiving through early February and the cat never knocked it over. A Christmas miracle :-) Posted by: screaming in digital at December 13, 2025 07:20 PM (UONii) 119
65 I'm seriously considering a binocular 10x and 20x stereo microscope for my electronics bench. It should help placing micro-components (SMT) on circuit boards for a couple of kit builds that I plan to start constructing soon. Hoping Santa is gracious enough to have it under the tree in a couple of weeks. I've dropped more than enough hints to one of his helpers over the last few months.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 13, 2025 06:31 PM (abIsI) Please post a review if Santa comes through, that's something I'm thinking about getting. I usually stick to the larger SMT parts, 1206 or bigger, and do OK with a magnifier and lots of light, but a microscope would help my 29 year old eyes. Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:21 PM (X5Jzz) 120
Vinegar Syndrome sells an ornament that looks like a VHS tape.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 13, 2025 07:21 PM (CHHv1) 121
70 Our 15 year old microwave went tango uniform, had to order a new one from Lowes. Merry Christmas, so instead of steaks tonight, we are eating boiled cabbage. Praise the Lord!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:36 PM (LHPAg) Please tell me you're not eating steak tonight because you're saving money to pay for the new microwave, and not because you can't cook them in the dead microwave. Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:24 PM (X5Jzz) 122
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:19 PM (3ek7K)
God bless you for that, fourseasons! Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:24 PM (Vvh2V) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:25 PM (3ek7K) 124
Nice ornaments and great stories behind them.
The tree is up at Casa Sin Problemas, GOA. We retired the 15 Year-old tree that served us well in California. Picked up the current 4ft "spruce" from Facebook Marketplace earlier today from a local. 40 bucks and she threw in two 50-light strings and other assorted ornaments. Merry Christmas, Hoard! Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:25 PM (nbLIj) 125
Time to say thank you before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks to all who contributed. We'll do this again next week with the same or similar theme (because Ben Had said so), so send in your goodies.
If you missed, please submit. If you submitted this week and have another ornament or Christmas decoration in mind, OK to send. See y'all at the Club ONT Christmas party later! Posted by: TRex - nativity shy dino at December 13, 2025 07:25 PM (IQ6Gq) 126
Thank you all for sharing your ornaments and your memories - this was absolutely wonderful!!!! Merry Christmas!!!
Posted by: moki at December 13, 2025 07:28 PM (wLjpr) 127
I'm going to take a nap so I can make the party.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:28 PM (sDNVV) 128
We have so many penguin Christmas ornaments, we decorate a separate small tree with just them. Deal with it, Spheniscidaphobes!
Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 07:28 PM (2L+MU) 129
I hang my Yak fiber stockings on the mantle.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:30 PM (sDNVV) 130
104 off topic: oh no:
Amy Schumer and her husband have decided to go their separate ways. In an Instagram post shared on Friday, Dec. 12, the 44-year-old "Kinda Pregnant" star shared that she and her husband, chef Chris Fischer, have decided to split after seven years of marriage. Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (CWTWj) So, he married her and put up with her when she was a fat pig, and now that she's a skinny pig, she dumps him. Nice. And lucky him, to be rid of her. Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:30 PM (X5Jzz) 131
My old GE microwave went tits up a couple of years ago. Being on the cheap I bought one from Wally.
It's good for the money but that old GE was nice. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 07:31 PM (ONKca) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:31 PM (3ek7K) 133
Please tell me you're not eating steak tonight because you're saving money to pay for the new microwave, and not because you can't cook them in the dead microwave.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:24 PM (X5Jzz) Nobody cooks steaks in a microwave. We only use a hot skillet. -Amos 'n Andy Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 07:32 PM (LHPAg) 134
Well I will find some of my painted ornaments and send a picture in
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:35 PM (Ia/+0) 135
Her husband looks like a fairly normal, fairly skinny dude. Not on ozempic.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 07:38 PM (zZu0s) 136
Please tell me you're not eating steak tonight because you're saving money to pay for the new microwave, and not because you can't cook them in the dead microwave.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:24 PM (X5Jzz) A microwave is no place for a steak. Frozen White Castles, maybe... Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:39 PM (nbLIj) 137
I had a medium-sized Sharp Carousel II that I got in 1986. It lasted 20 years before the keypad went wonky, but could still use "minute plus" and some of the number keys. Kept it another few years, LOL. The next one, same brand, only lasted 8? I think. Now have a Hamilton Beach unit that sometimes shuts off mid-cycle. Have had it only 4 or 5 years.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 07:39 PM (rdVOm) 138
* waves to Joe Kidd*
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:40 PM (sDNVV) 139
Day after Christmas have a little historical miniature game I am making, not sure how well it will come out but will post a picture anyway.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:40 PM (Ia/+0) 140
Glad the 'bubble' candles got mentioned. I've always been curious about the fluid therein. Alcohol?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 07:00 PM (XeU6L) My Dad said it was carbon tetrachloride. Alcohol + heat might end badly. Seems to me there was a little hunk of granular stuff in the bottom to nucleate the bubbles, too. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 07:41 PM (npFr7) 141
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:25 PM (3ek7K)
Ditto, and may our Dear Lord shower you with many blessings in this new year coming! Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (Vvh2V) 142
Mike Hammer, package coming your way.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (sDNVV) 143
Ben Had, I'd live to see your stockings!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (Vvh2V) 144
I found some bubble lights at an estate sale. Estate sales are great for finding old, cool stuff. Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:43 PM (3ek7K) 145
Now have a Hamilton Beach unit that sometimes shuts off mid-cycle. Have had it only 4 or 5 years.
Posted by: JQ --- Mine too. I wondered if I had a mind gap. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 07:43 PM (ONKca) 146
Tammy, I make these things and never think to take pictures.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (sDNVV) 147
(Raises glass to Ben Had. Waggles eyebrows...)
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (nbLIj) 148
Most new stuff today is crap. Hubby and I think the lockdown had a lot to do with things being crap. Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (3ek7K) 149
Joe Kidd, you know you are at the top of my dance card so we can officially open the dance floor.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (sDNVV) 150
Heh, for those still lingering on: it was for a Carter WGD, from a '50's Hudson Big Six 308ci straight 6 with a 2-barrel carb.
Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (pDcsL) 151
I used to decorate living room window sill with artificial branch garland, various pine/fir/spruce cones, and a set of bubble lights. Not 'old stock' lights-- I had purchased them at a Bi-Mart (discount store) in the early 2000s.
Anyway, left them on too long one afternoon and one of the bubbler thingys popped. Liquid got too hot? Stained the mini-blind with blue splatter, but no fire. Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (rdVOm) 152
I found some bubble lights at an estate sale.
Estate sales are great for finding old, cool stuff. Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:43 PM (3ek7K) Bubble lights are the best damn Christmas lights ever invented. Earliest Christmas memories included those. I think they only lasted a few years, but they made an umpression... Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (nbLIj) 153
Got my coin rolling done. Ninety-one dollars in Canadian coins rolled, to go to the bank on Monday. I probably have a near-equal amount in U.S. coin that I will haul South with me, and feed to the Coinstar machine in WalMart. No point in rolling them.
Did a quick run to town for groceries, mail, etc. The white '99 Suburban started right up, not a moment's delay, despite having cold-soaked for several days in sub-zero weather. By the time I'd made the three miles to town, the heater was making its presence felt, and by the time I got home, it was nice and warm inside the beast. +5 F right now, and I saw what appears to be a Chinook arch in the far south, so it may warm up, as the forecast calls for. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 07:51 PM (npFr7) 154
Joe Kidd, you know you are at the top of my dance card so we can officially open the dance floor.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (sDNVV) I'm always up for a nice waltz.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00Ig33jctXs Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (nbLIj) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (3ek7K) 156
Mom and Dad still have a Sharp Carousel that Grandma and Grandpa got them in the 80s. Has a dial timer setting (like an egg timer.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (3ek7K) 158
Revised forecast for tomorrow is a high of 14 and a low of 4.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (zZu0s) 159
Heh, for those still lingering on: it was for a Carter WGD, from a '50's Hudson Big Six 308ci straight 6 with a 2-barrel carb.
Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (pDcsL) I know a guy here in Alberta who is restoring a Hudson Hornet convertible with Twin-H power. Well, it's in the queue; a couple of other high-dollar cars precede it. Rick is a very skilled and meticulous restorer. It will be done right, when it gets done. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (npFr7) 160
It was 55 degrees here in SW Wyoming today. Very strange for us, but we'll take it.
Posted by: fourseasons ******* So, that's where the good temps went, cause they certainly aren't here...enjoy them! Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (IQ6Gq) 161
AOP,
You will be heading to warm weather soon. Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (3ek7K) Planning on it. Probably later this coming week. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (npFr7) 162
Pictures or it didn't happen I should take to heart. Sculpted a 15 piece Southwest nativity and didn't take picture one.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (sDNVV) 163
Grateful, 5 y/o granddaughter asked today if we are going to have a brown Christmas this year, lol. Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (3ek7K) 164
5 y/o granddaughter asked today if we are going to have a brown Christmas this year, lol.
Posted by: fourseasons Ha! I'm sure you assured her whatever the color, all Christmases are magical and good. What a great age, enjoy your time with her! Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 07:58 PM (IQ6Gq) 165
Pictures or it didn't happen I should take to heart. Sculpted a 15 piece Southwest nativity and didn't take picture one.
Posted by: Ben Had *********** Ugh! I did that for many years....finally about 8-10 years ago I intentionally tried to take a photo of everything I made.... Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 08:01 PM (IQ6Gq) 166
Speaking of hobbies, I am going to hot up the soldering iron, and do some more work on this ancient radio I am refurbishing. It's a 1936 Canadian Westinghouse "farm radio", meant to run off dry cells or storage batteries. Uses "fat pin" tubes, 4, 5, and 6 pin tubes, with metal top caps for the grids. I have no idea if it will play, but it's kind of fun to mess with. All the wiring was rubber-insulated, and the rubber has become crisp, and falls off in strips. So replace nearly all the wires in the set. And the paper capacitors, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 08:01 PM (npFr7) 167
We had the four grandchildren, 3 to 11 y/o today so mom and dad could get everything wrapped and ready for Santa. It was a wonderful day. Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 08:02 PM (3ek7K) 168
Movie thread is nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:03 PM (zZu0s) 169
The Grateful, I did manage to get a friend to send me pictures of some rustic churches I did out of hunkts of wood here on the farm. I would like to submit them.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (sDNVV) 170
>>>I probably have a near-equal amount in U.S. coin that I will haul South with me, and feed to the Coinstar machine in WalMart. No point in rolling them.
--- I go to self check out, cash machine with a pocket full of coins (best done at low traffic times). First thing, all the pocket coin goes into the machine. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ONKca) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 08:07 PM (3ek7K) 172
I go to self check out, cash machine with a pocket full of coins (best done at low traffic times). First thing, all the pocket coin goes into the machine.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ONKca) Well, that's a way to avoid the Coinstar vigorish, I guess. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (npFr7) 173
The bank here will take all your coins and they don't charge anything.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:09 PM (sDNVV) 174
We have an original aluminum tree that we put up every alternate year. Manitowoc (where a lot of the trees were made) puts a bunch on display in Main Street shops every year. I would seriously love to find a pink one.
Posted by: The Neon Madman at December 13, 2025 08:15 PM (yNfcm) 175
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I know that Hobby Lobby has pink trees, but not sure if they are aluminum, probably just plastic Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 08:17 PM (IQ6Gq) 176
I did manage to get a friend to send me pictures of some rustic churches I did out of hunkts of wood here on the farm. I would like to submit them.
Posted by: Ben Had ******* Would LOVE to see those! Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 08:18 PM (IQ6Gq) 177
We had the four grandchildren, 3 to 11 y/o today so mom and dad could get everything wrapped and ready for Santa.
It was a wonderful day. Posted by: fourseasons ********** This just makes me SMILE! Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 08:19 PM (IQ6Gq) 178
Love all of the ornaments! I have been collecting one (or two) a year since we got engaged in 1978. I have a lot. Plus a few antique ones from his family and mine.
My favorite is a ceramic one of two boys carrying a tree. Which is similar to one of my favorite photos I took of our boys "helping" carry the tree my brother cut on our farm. It is framed and I keep it in our bedroom in the event of fire (which is weird as I will probably forget it). I keep meaning to paint the scene and have Christmas cards printed but I never do. Christmas does bring back good memories and sentiment of family past and present. I wish all good memories on you all. Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (WONhk) 179
Forgot to add: when our sons were hatched I got them a new ornament each year. Either with the date or I wrote the date and their name in sharpie on the back.
The first Christmas of their marriage I gave them each bins of these ornaments for their tree with their brides. Now I buy an ornament (with the year!!!) for them plus our grandchildren. Often with their names and ,of course, the year. Etsy has some great artists who make them. I confess to being an Etsy addict. Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 08:54 PM (WONhk) 180
5 y/o granddaughter asked today if we are going to have a brown Christmas this year, lol.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (3ek7K) You, too? I have been praying for snow. The Mountain West is getting ripped off so far. Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 08:58 PM (WONhk) 181
Done soldering for a bit. Got the "A" circuit done. Time to wash dishes, and make some supper.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 09:24 PM (npFr7) Ace of Spades Pet Thread, December 13![]()
Foxes are beautiful animals that you may be surprised to see in your garden. But like many wildlife species, they’ve learned to live near us. "Foxes are more commonly observed now," Robert Pierce, PhD, associate professor and state extension fisheries and wildlife specialist at the University of Missouri. "You’ll see them in urban and suburban areas because they’ve adapted to the conditions." Most of the time, foxes are naturally shy and hide from us. "Generally, we don’t have negative interactions with them," says Sheldon Owen, PhD, wildlife extension specialist at West Virginia University. "They prefer to stay out of sight and are primarily nocturnal, although you will also see them during the day, especially if they’re hunting for their pups." The greatest risk to people and pets with foxes is that they can carry canine distemper, fleas, ticks, and the mites that can cause mange, says Owen. Like all mammals, foxes also can carry rabies, but it’s a small number, as compared to other wildlife species such as bats, raccoons and skunks. Typically, foxes are not a serious issue for homeowners. "Most often we get calls from people saying they have a fox family in their back yard," says Pierce. "We advise to give them their space and observe and enjoy the experience."More at the link. And this is interesting: Last week, we learned that By-Tor had raccoons at his house again. They may be more of a problem sometimes. — Why you should have a Raccoon (@ShouldHaveRacc) December 13, 2025 Or maybe not . . . . . Conor Pup was diagnosed with lymphoma and started chemotherapy treatment at a canine oncologist in the mid-fall. It was not an easy path for either of us, but we endeavored to persevere but as you can see, he graduated at the top of his class. HrothgarHate to hear about Conor's big challenge. You both deserve to feel a sense of gratitude and pride. ![]() Walking the girls around the thousands of Christmas lights downtown. They were good even though they are not very social (farm dogs). A friend made the noses for some muzzles we had. One gentleman asked how we kept the noses on until he got a closer look. Merry Christmas. S.Lynn, IdahoWhat a wonderful story! Merry Christmas, girls! ![]() Howdy K.T., Wifey and I were privileged to attend the TX MoMe a couple months ago and she took the attached photo of the playful cute dog running around the property (presumably the pet of our hosts Rancher Bob and Cow Horse Queen); I think I asked around what its name was but none of the other attendees I inquired with knew. I think I'll just call him (or her?) "Ace" next time ... ;-) Cheers (and thanks for hosting the Pet Thread each weekend)!Howdy! Thanks for sending in a photo of such a great PetMoron! Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today. If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:Until next Saturday, have a great week! If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spaces Pet Thread, December 6 I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
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Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 03:46 PM (LjSYW) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 03:46 PM (tgvbd) 3
That dog at the TXMOME got a special treat from me, though not on purpose.
I had set a plate with a hamburger on it on the side tray of my lawn chair. Unfortunately, the plate wasn't very stable and fell off when I wasn't looking. Or it was helped. Not sure. In any case, the dog was kind enough to clean up my mess. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 03:53 PM (ESVrU) 4
Woof.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 03:54 PM (Kt19C) 5
I heard Cow Horse Queen call one of the dogs "Zip." I forget which one, though.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 13, 2025 03:55 PM (yNJrI) 6
I'd love to see a fox in my yard. If I had one. We've had opossums here, and I know I've glimpsed a coyote or two in the predawn hours when I work out.
I did see foxes often in the Denver area, including ones dashing around the animal enclosures at he zoo. The staffers told me they no longer even tried to keep the foxes out; they slipped under the fences or slid between the rails. One morning in Red Rocks Park, I saw one coppery, bushy-tailed fellow on the opposite side of the road where I'd parked. He seemed totally unfazed by the presence of me or my car. I sat and watched him look around until he trotted away from the trail, intent on his own foxy pursuits. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 03:57 PM (wzUl9) 7
You met Sakura last week, the stray calico weegie. Lately, she has become more affectionate and more willing to spend time indoors with me. Still freaks out at the presence of other people. She has also been joined by a smol black cat I am calling "Babymonster." Who despite being hungry and frightened is also a lot more willing to get close and even be petted than most stray khets. Sakura has become territorial about our backyard, but she lets Babymonster in.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 03:58 PM (f0sNM) 8
Both of my furry thugs, Stirling the big black medium-hair and little gray Dagny the fluffy fireplug of a Siberian, were sleeping with me when I woke from my nap. The day is warm but not hot; I have the door open, and they are now intently watching things of interest to them through the screen door.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 03:59 PM (wzUl9) 9
Woof!! Wonderful pets pals as always. Hrothgar, you are an exceptional person for doing what you did for Conor the scholar pup. Good on ya. Thanks for the pet thread K.T.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 13, 2025 04:00 PM (9W1vH) Posted by: Joyenz at December 13, 2025 04:02 PM (2F0/Y) 11
Sakura has become territorial about our backyard, but she lets Babymonster in.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 *** If Babymonster is a boy and Sakura is not spayed, you may have a joyful event coming. Precocious Stirling was only five months old, and Dagny the same, when he was already trying to get next to her and warm himself by her fire. We had to separate them until I could get first one and then the other docked. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:02 PM (wzUl9) 12
Happy Caturday everyone
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 04:03 PM (Ia/+0) 13
Pretty sure I had a family of red foxes denned up under an old truck body in the bottom corner of my lot a few years ago. Have not seen any lately. No animal tracks at all in last night's snowfall, which I just came in from clearing with the snowblower. Must be too cold. Usually plenty of bunny tracks, and deer sometimes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 04:04 PM (npFr7) 14
9 Woof!! Wonderful pets pals as always. Hrothgar, you are an exceptional person for doing what you did for Conor the scholar pup. Good on ya. Thanks for the pet thread K.T.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 13, 2025 04:00 PM (9W1vH) Here here! Conor is an extraordinary boy, to be sure, and deserves all the love, attention and care Sir Hrothgar lavishes on him!! Frankly, both are extraordinary souls!!! Posted by: moki at December 13, 2025 04:07 PM (wLjpr) 15
Rancher Bob and Cow Horse Queen's handsome fellow is a heterochrome (if I'm using the term right) -- one eye blue and the other brown?
When Miss Linda gets a look at the Christmas outfits on S. Lynn's girls, she's gonna want to devise something like it for my cats. She keeps saying, "They don't mind costumes." To which I reply, "How do you know?" She insists on putting a Santa suit on them every year and taking pictures. At that it's better than the princess cone-cap and cape she used to dress the late Marie-Antoinette in. True, Marie did not seem to mind; it meant more attention from her human servants, and that she loved. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:08 PM (wzUl9) 16
Smash rescued a neighbor's cat from being dinner for a fox several years ago.
See them frequently enough around here to not be surprised when one passes through. Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 04:10 PM (QVmho) 17
My big tom caught a mouse and "played it to death" night before last, just before I let him in for the night. He got a treat for being a mighty hunter, but I let the mouse on the porch.
The next morning I threw it over the fence for the neighbor's chickens, and a while later I saw the youngest kitten batting it around and mock-hunting it. When she saw me watching she picked it up and trotted over to show me. She got a treat too, and the sadly mangled mouse went in the compost heap, hopefully for good. Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 04:11 PM (rbvCR) 18
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 03:58 PM (f0sNM)
So glad to hear you are earning their trust. Hrothgar So sorry your pup had to even go through that. I am glad he is doing well. We have lost several cats to lymphoma. Horrible disease. Posted by: Joyenz at December 13, 2025 04:12 PM (2F0/Y) 19
We had a fox napping in our yard all afternoon last Sunday
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 04:15 PM (DoBxX) 20
There was an item on a thread last week about the suggestion that raccoons are becoming more domesticated. I find this hard to believe. They are smart creatures, but still wild animals. It may take a long while before they are domesticated, if ever.
Maybe they are becoming "domestic-lite," as in perfectly happy to live in proximity to humans for the food and even the entertainment value. The way cats began to take up with us. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:16 PM (wzUl9) 21
Oboy. Didn't nap through the pet thread today.
We're fortunate that neither the cat, nor the dog, nor the four "cousin" dogs visiting yesterday, care about the tree inside the house. Daisy, our dear, sweet and sensitive Malinois, did not care for this brief, creative version of Jingle Bells. Made her whine and cry, so I stopped it before the end. https://youtu.be/fG90ZlnloAE Posted by: mindful webworker - squeaky squeaky at December 13, 2025 04:20 PM (lbDMw) 22
So about foxes,....
A couple years ago, had a HUGE mole/vole problem. Backyard looked like varicose veins. Noticed that a pair of foxes (assuming M/F pair) started showing up in the backyard in the EARLY morning (I generally wake up around 4:30 and grab some coffee). Within 4-6 months NO MORE MOLES/VOLES!!!! Ya think the two might be somehow linked????? -SLV Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 04:21 PM (e/Osv) 23
There was an item on a thread last week about the suggestion that raccoons are becoming more domesticated. I find this hard to believe. They are smart creatures, but still wild animals. It may take a long while before they are domesticated, if ever.
Maybe they are becoming "domestic-lite," as in perfectly happy to live in proximity to humans for the food and even the entertainment value. The way cats began to take up with us. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:16 PM (wzUl9) --- I think an animal has to have a distinct useful purpose to humans before it can truly be called "domesticated." Racoons don't serve any purpose other than to be a nuisance. Acclimated to human activity, but not in danger of being domesticated any time soon. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 04:22 PM (ESVrU) 24
Meow!
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at December 13, 2025 04:23 PM (sAmhv) 25
The ranch doggo’s name is Jane.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 04:23 PM (mT+6a) 26
I think an animal has to have a distinct useful purpose to humans before it can truly be called "domesticated." Racoons don't serve any purpose other than to be a nuisance. Acclimated to human activity, but not in danger of being domesticated any time soon.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 04:22 PM (ESVrU) I think "acclimated" to humans is the key here. I live in the suburbs next to a reservoir, so we get ALL sorts of critters in the neighborhood. This time of year, it's 6-10 deer in the yard eating acorns and crabapples. I go outside to warm the truck, and they may glance at me, but they don't run. I swear I have been within 15 feet of a couple. Hmm, is this where I start considering "alternate" hunting methods??? -SLV Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 04:28 PM (e/Osv) 27
I've seen several foxes in my little part of Babylon DC, even as developed as it is here, for years. Fairly common siting.
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at December 13, 2025 04:31 PM (sAmhv) 28
…This time of year, it's 6-10 deer in the yard eating acorns and crabapples.…
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter We hardly ever saw deer all summer and early fall. Funny thing, as soon as hunting season starts, we get many of them here in the living area. They drive Daisy dog crazy, mad barking and running from window to window. But so do the feral cats down the driveway. Also, squirrels, blowing leaves, and hallucinations, as far as we can tell. Posted by: mindful webworker - almost as if they knew at December 13, 2025 04:34 PM (lbDMw) 29
There was an item on a thread last week about the suggestion that raccoons are becoming more domesticated. I find this hard to believe.
Its pretty easy. We're not trapping or shooting 'coons, or deer, or turkey anymore. Let the grocery store shut down a couple weeks. Then you'll hear some bangs. And then all those cute critters won't come 'round anymore. They won't be extinct ... as a species. And you'll see some skinny, miserable people. And some people that don't look at the end of starvation. The End. Posted by: Howdy at December 13, 2025 04:34 PM (ivXYS) 30
You don't want to have foxes nearby during mating season. If you've read or heard that a vixen sounds like woman screaming, it's very true. First time I heard it I wasn't sure if I needed to call 911 because someone was in trouble.
Posted by: Vendette at December 13, 2025 04:34 PM (pJK38) 31
It's snowing a lot, here at Little Oaxaca on the Miami. Smoke the Cat wanted to go out earlier. He took a couple of steps outside into the falling snow & cold...and turned around his own length and went back in!
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 04:36 PM (XjTSo) 32
A friend of mine loves black cats and recently lost one. Who knows? Maybe Babymonster will end up being one of the lucky ones who finds a home.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 04:37 PM (f0sNM) 33
There was an item on a thread last week about the suggestion that raccoons are becoming more domesticated. I find this hard to believe.
-------------------------- This was actually a topic of discussion at a work meeting. Item 5: Raccoons: Are they self-domesticating. I'm not making this up. Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 04:38 PM (f0sNM) 34
A friend of mine loves black cats and recently lost one. Who knows? Maybe Babymonster will end up being one of the lucky ones who finds a home.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 *** In my limited experience (three so far), black cats are the most easygoing and adaptable, and possibly the smartest, of all the coat colors. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:40 PM (wzUl9) 35
Award of Merit, but not Best of Breed, for The Big Dummy at today's AKC National Championship show. Her Majesty said he was a hot and tired boy. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 04:40 PM (tgvbd) 36
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What should you do if you see a fox in your yard? I have 11 choices. ----- The fox doesn't need my approval, he needs the approval of Smoke the yard panther. Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 04:42 PM (XjTSo) 37
It's snowing a lot, here at Little Oaxaca on the Miami. Smoke the Cat wanted to go out earlier. He took a couple of steps outside into the falling snow & cold...and turned around his own length and went back in!
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 *** Last January we had a historic (for here) snowfall. Linda got the idea to see how little Dagny the Siberian would react to conditions in her "homeland." She toted Dagny out -- and the little cat, normally silent, let out a yowl you could have heard across the street. We brought her in quick. Last month she tried exposing Dagny to warmer and calmer conditions. Dagny did not complain at all. So it was the cold or the snow hitting her fur that bothered her before, not the vista of the scary wide open outdoors. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:43 PM (wzUl9) 38
Someone new moved into the neighborhood and has a gorgeous Siamese long haired blue eyed beauty. She is very friendly and has an air tag on her collar.
This is not a safe place for kitties. Too many cars and coyotes, owls, eagles and yes, fox. And she doesn’t seem particularly street smart. Ugh. Makes me horribly anxious and worried for the pretty pretty girl. Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 04:43 PM (mT+6a) 39
100 Calculus 2 Problems: The Ultimate Final Exam Review Marathon
Posted by: Maths at December 13, 2025 04:44 PM (taD4S) 40
It's snowing a lot, here at Little Oaxaca on the Miami. Smoke the Cat wanted to go out earlier. He took a couple of steps outside into the falling snow & cold...and turned around his own length and went back in!
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 *** At Christmas time in '89, we had another historic (for here) snowfall. When I got home, I decided to let Arizona the red-and-white tabby part-Coon out into the little fenced patio, to see how he'd react to "Maine" conditions. He padded around on the snow, sniffing at everything and holding his muzzle up to feel the snow on his nose. I got cold before he did and ushered him back inside. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:46 PM (wzUl9) 41
7 You met Sakura last week, the stray calico weegie. Lately, she has become more affectionate and more willing to spend time indoors with me. Still freaks out at the presence of other people.
====== Smoke the cat sort of joined me over the period of a couple of weeks. He was part of the beggars I feed for a while, but was a little different. He was less of a fraidy-cat & more confidant. Sometime in September he realized all the food came from inside our house, so he let himself in. He stayed longer each time, and by October he was staying for good. I'm sure he was previously owned, but put outside or abandoned right after he had atrained his full growth. Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 04:47 PM (XjTSo) 42
If anyone wants a possum as a pet or neighbor, they can come get the one that shows up here sometimes. He's attracted by the food I put out for the beggars, so i have had to switch feeding times. I have food for cats, not for possums.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 04:50 PM (XjTSo) 43
Hrothgar, Sorry to hear about Conor's cancer. Hope he is fully recovered. You are special.
Posted by: Mrs JTB at December 13, 2025 04:53 PM (yTvNw) 44
We have red foxes in our neighborhood although I haven't seen one in our yard since spring. Sometimes we hear them at night. It's a very odd sound, kind of a cross between a sheep's baa and a scream.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 13, 2025 04:57 PM (3nLb4) 45
In my limited experience (three so far), black cats are the most easygoing and adaptable, and possibly the smartest, of all the coat colors.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:40 PM (wzUl9) ---- I only have one sample (Penny) but she's very much like you describe. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 04:58 PM (ESVrU) 46
I had a fox conversation a few years back. I went outside for an early morning mug of coffee, to look at some work we were having done.
The fox walked up to me and cocked his head as though to say, Do I know you? As close as any dog. I just talked to him. He nodded and went off into the garden--between me and my house--checking back every few steps. You're still here? Then wandered away. One of the workers was already on site. I said, Did you see that? He said, Never seen anything like it. So I have a witness. Posted by: Wenda at December 13, 2025 05:02 PM (A65Zh) 47
I have my own possums, thanks!
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 05:02 PM (+mUZM) 48
A few years ago--before we adopted our dog, Luna--we had two baby foxes hang out in our yard. In central Texas, these are gray foxes. One of the fairly unique qualities of our foxes is that they are great tree climbers. The two babies in our yard frequented a hollow in one of our native live oaks. They'd crawl down and play and explore in our side yard.
We christened the female "Adventure Fox" and her brother "Cautious Fox" based on their behavior. Mom fox came by to tend them frequently. We had a very entertaining spring watching them grow up but have only occasionally seen foxes in our yard since then. Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 13, 2025 05:03 PM (FEVMW) 49
>>The fox walked up to me and cocked his head as though to say, Do I know you? As close as any dog. I just talked to him. He nodded and went off into the garden--between me and my house--checking back every few steps. You're still here? Then wandered away.
The day I moved into this house some friends came over with a bottle of champagne to celebrate. We were out on the patio having some bubbly and a fox came out of the conversation land, stopped in the yard and just watched us. He stood there for about 30 seconds and then turned and trotted through the yard. Cheeky little bugger. Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2025 05:09 PM (viF8m) 50
Today's Update:
I am up and about (I have always recovered fairly quickly from most surgeries that I have had), and I am giving the nursing staff kittens because I am an old lady with an old lady's bladder, and when I need to go, I NEED TO GO!!!!! I have asked them to turn off the floor alarm....(they are threatening to assign me a full-time "handler" if I don't comply with the floor alarm, because I am a "fall risk"🤣🤣🤣 It looks like the largest tumor is, for all intents and purposes, dead. However, the smaller tumors are still there, and it looks like at least 1 more has cropped up. Some lymph nodes were sent off to be biopsied to see if the cancer has spread beyond the liver, and tissue from a couple of the smaller tumors was also sent off to see if those cancer cells have mutated (a common occurrence). Once the surgeon got into the abdominal area, it was obvious to him that there was more tumor involvement than either the CT scans or the MRIs had shown (also a common occurrence), so he made the decision - which we had talked about in advance - to leave the liver intact and install an HAI pump inside of the liver instead. (Continued....) Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 13, 2025 05:10 PM (fV+di) 51
.....They will be running a “pump test” on Monday – while I am still in the hospital – to make sure that the pump is adequately delivering medication into my liver. If it is, the doctor thinks that I should be able to be discharged on Monday.
I don’t know when they plan on starting the chemo through the pump, but it appears that I will not have to “sit through” weekly chemo sessions, as the medication is sort of time-released through the HAI pump – a couple of weeks of focused chemo, followed by a week or two off. I will also be able to continue oral chemo in addition to the concentrated internal chemo which will be given through the pump. Once we know more about potential mutations in the cancer cells, a decision will be made about what type of chemo I will need to be on going forward. I don’t know what the side effects of the new chemo in the pump will be, nor do I know if they will be starting a different oral chemo – it’s going to depend on if they find a new mutation in the tumor tissues. If the combination of both of these treatments results in tumor shrinkage, the hope is to get me to a liver resection at some point in the near future. (Continued....) Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 13, 2025 05:11 PM (fV+di) 52
I see lots of grey foxes around here, especially when I'm going to work in the early morning.
Jane and Zip are great dogs!! I need to bring my dog to see if they'll rub off on him. Buckley is a really great dog, just needs a few rough edges smoothed out. 🤗 Posted by: lin-duh at December 13, 2025 05:12 PM (VCgbV) 53
....If the new chemo(s) don’t shrink the tumors, we are hoping that at the very least I will get several months more of Progression-Free Disease (PFD).
In the meantime, “Bucket List Year #2: Electric Boogaloo” plans continue apace. First on the list is our trip to Las Vegas in February, where we will be seeing Chicago (the band), Piff the Magic Dragon, Barry Manilow, The Wizard of Oz, The Eagles, and Penn and Teller, as well as taking a nighttime limo ride down the Strip and a helicopter tour over the Grand Canyon with a sojourn over the Skywalk. In March we have tickets to see Jeff Dunham in concert in Reno combined with a visit with our oldest daughter’s family (well really, we’re going to see the grandbabies!), followed by a George Strait Concert in Lubbock in April, and then a trip down to Galveston in May to see Jeff Foxworthy and to spend some time with my BFF from high school and her family. Last but not least, in July we have tickets to see “Hamilton” at Bass Hall in Fort Worth. We will be going with a large-ish group of friends to see that, preceded by dinner at The Cheesescake Factory (which is right across the street from Bass Hall). (Continued....) Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 13, 2025 05:13 PM (fV+di) 54
....Then, God willing and the creek don’t rise, in October we will be driving down to Corsicana for the annual Ace of Spades Moron Meet-Up – I have promised to bring along at least one “Black Forest Cake” from The Swiss Pastry Shop in Fort Worth.
Well, that’s all for now – I would like to thank everyone for all of their prayers and well wishes, and thank goodness for the miracle of modern medicine! Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 13, 2025 05:13 PM (fV+di) 55
That’s fascinating about your foxes! I looked up foxes in Texas, because I know I’ve seen a red fox here in East Texas, and learned that grey foxes are indigenous, but red foxes got introduced and turned loose by somebody a while back, so there’s a lot of those around too.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 05:13 PM (k5cxK) 56
That is wonderful Theresa!!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 05:14 PM (k5cxK) 57
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 13, 2025 05:11 PM (fV+di)
Continued prayers. Stay strong and faithful. Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 05:16 PM (KDPiq) 58
44 We have red foxes in our neighborhood although I haven't seen one in our yard since spring. Sometimes we hear them at night. It's a very odd sound, kind of a cross between a sheep's baa and a scream.
======== Foxes can make some goofy sounds at times. I've heard them yelling during the mating season, and it makes me wonder what that noise is. Even though I know it's foxes. Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 05:16 PM (XjTSo) 59
The foxes and my cats seem to coexist with each other.
Posted by: lin-duh at December 13, 2025 05:16 PM (VCgbV) 60
And while I’m not wild about “Hamilton”, I’ve been to Bass Hall a few times and I think that’s one of the best performance venues in the entire country.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 05:17 PM (k5cxK) 61
I was golfing a few years ago at the local club and saw two fox pups, watching me play. They followed the ball in the air, it was cute. Then one of them nipped the other and they started chasing and playing with each other.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 13, 2025 05:22 PM (8NxQe) 62
OT, breaking. Mass shooting at Brown University in RI. Links at Insty. Sounds bad.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 13, 2025 05:22 PM (3nLb4) 63
Sitting in the car in the parking garage at Philly airport. Son's flight is delayed 3 hours. Aarrgh! And there is absolutely nowhere to go to eat or have a drink.
Posted by: IrishEi on the phone at December 13, 2025 05:25 PM (0vGzG) 64
>>OT, breaking. Mass shooting at Brown University in RI. Links at Insty. Sounds bad.
Trying to get some details but seeing mixed reports. It does sound pretty bad. Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2025 05:28 PM (viF8m) 65
On-topic, just ran across this c/o blazingcatfur:
https://x.com/iris_seraphina/ status/1998456615314325674 Cat saving chicken from fox 🦊🐓🐈 Says it's ring cam. Looks like maybe AI to me, dunno. Posted by: mindful webworker - everything is virtual at December 13, 2025 05:31 PM (lbDMw) 66
Go Navy beat Army!
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2025 05:32 PM (YGRGv) 67
Navy's down by 6
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (YGRGv) 68
HOBBY NOOD
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (Ia/+0) 69
Love the pet thread. Thanks to all who send in pet pictures! I miss my doggehs.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 09:32 PM (t93WW) Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Dec. 13![]() It's more winter than fall now, and there's little happening outside, or inside. However, a friend up the street has a little greenhouse in which the plants are quite active . . .Click on the link for a few more plants, including a Bird of Paradise. Don also posted some Romanian Folk Dances by Bartok. "Some easy Bartok. His music is not all grating dissonances." Moldova (see earlier thread) was once part of the Romanian principality, and they speak Romanian there. The Soviet era meant that most tomatoes grown there were developed as open-pollinated strains, not as hybrids. One of these is Glory of Moldova. It's a little orange saladette tomato that gets some great reviews. I love the name. "Glory of Moldova" is a little orange tomato! Thinking about next year's garden choices? "Glory of Moldova" is probably in here somewhere. Romania is next door. But in addition to little orange and yellow tomatoes, big red oxhearts are prominently mentioned in the comments. Those are great, too. More typical winter experiences coming up for many people: ![]() Edible Gardening/Putting Things By Two batches of photos from Nan in AZ: Summer was so hot, we didn't get much at all, but went out last week and found a nice collection of veggies and lettuce volunteering all over the place.NICE. Glad there are SOME of us getting some veggies! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Had to capture this last leaf on my weeping willow. The very top of the tree and pure defiance in the face of winter. DiogenesPure Defiance! If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is: ktinthegarden at g mail dot com Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
I have so many tomato seeds! But I am impressed by Cherokee Purple. I didn't get any vine ripened ones, but every single one ripened in the house and they were tasty. I still have some in the fridge. I think I will use grow bags for tomatoes next year and save my limited bed space for something else. I am still trying to plan things out.
I do have some chard still alive out there. It's covered up for now and I'll see what it looks like when this cold spell clears. I want to see how long it can go. Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (+mUZM) 2
Hi.
Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 02:20 PM (W7XSX) 3
Time to cut back all my runner bean vines. All the pods have been harvested. I got about 5 beans for every bean I planted.
Soon, I will own the runner bean market. Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 02:21 PM (8SdDq) 4
Well, winter season has officially begun. The first seed catalog, from Jung, arrived this week. My in the ground gardening is less likely at this age but there is still hope for some container garden veggies. That keeps me focused on reality, at least to a point.
One thing I've noticed is a little more emphasis on heirloom varieties and certified organic seeds. It's a small part of their offerings but still there. Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 02:24 PM (yTvNw) 5
Commodore of USS Pure Defiance.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 02:25 PM (LHPAg) 6
I like using grow bags. You can position them where you want. I grew tomatoes in them one year and they grew very well. Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 02:25 PM (3ek7K) 7
That's not a very good return for runner beans in your area. Have you thought about a different strain?
At least you got blossoms, right? San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 02:21 PM Posted by: KT at December 13, 2025 02:26 PM (7vIsy) 8
The small NC city we've moved to always tells everyone, the night before, that school will be closed the next day. And being a Southern town, that means 3 snowflakes puts them in snow panic. (I love it here, but cannot shake my NY upbringing were attitudes to snow is concerned.)
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 02:27 PM (s0JqF) 9
I set up the terrarium and small glass containers for house plants. Using a combination of natural and grow light. This is all an experiment but none of the plants committed suicide the first few days. I'm taking that as a hopeful sign. If nothing else, getting the tiny plants in the containers was fun.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 02:30 PM (yTvNw) 10
we have a glaze of ice on everything. Decided not to take the dog to the lake because I didn't want the hassle of clearing off the windshield. Fortunately, he and Mr Trouble are content to just sleep today.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 02:31 PM (+mUZM) 11
Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Might be leaving the leaves I didn't collect yet for warmer weather. Did notice the Anaheim peppers in my mini greenhouse only were killed off by the frost not much more than a week ago. They certainly survived in there a few frosts. Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 02:35 PM (Ia/+0) 12
The small NC city we've moved to always tells everyone, the night before, that school will be closed the next day. And being a Southern town, that means 3 snowflakes puts them in snow panic. (I love it here, but cannot shake my NY upbringing were attitudes to snow is concerned.)
Posted by: Eeyore Then you drive on the roads with them and kind of understand why. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 02:36 PM (LjSYW) 13
Remember a couple weeks ago I posted a comment about the lore surrounding "wooly caterpillars" and predicting winter?
The bugs got it right. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 02:36 PM (NwnyJ) 14
Oddly I've got tulips poking out of the ground. I think they think it's spring. Who could blame them though it was almost 80° yesterday. Looks like today will be the same. So unseasonably warm. We should be measuring feet of snow in the mountains but there are barely patches. Ski resorts are almost 100% manmade snow right now.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:37 PM (5UnvZ) 15
From Boise area: lows 30-46 F, highs 46-63. Our winter air stagnation advisory season has begun.
I raked up some leaves to finish a last leaf bag, Husband took 8 to the local drop-off, and that's it for raking - after this, he'll mow-mulch. The trash got the remaining Siberian Iris leaves. I mixed up some of my birdseed mix - still have the supplies to make the same amount again. It's been so warm for this time of year, birds haven't been going through the seeds as fast as I expected. We'll be cutting down our blue spruce Christmas tree out in the backyard, later today. (We planted a row at double density years ago - now we can start harvesting.) Posted by: Pat* at December 13, 2025 02:37 PM (cA4Kb) 16
Our "feels like" temp is -1 degree.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 02:42 PM (kpS4V) 17
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J3YBkOPR4aI
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 02:43 PM (Kt19C) 18
With the weather report for this winter my gardening activity will be with houseplants. Part of that is propagating from cuttings, or trying to. It seems I just like playing in the dirt if it's seated at a table.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 02:46 PM (yTvNw) 19
Might get snow here tomorrow morning
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 02:52 PM (Ia/+0) 20
Lovely photos as always; purple thing in the middle, is it eggplant?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 02:57 PM (k5cxK) 21
Here in East Texas we’re still on the warm side of the front; 67 degrees right now. But weatherman says it’ll be 28 within 48 hours.
All the leaves have turned, my Japanese maples are gorgeous, all orange, red, and burgundy. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 03:01 PM (k5cxK) 22
Army- Navy game starting
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 03:02 PM (Ia/+0) 23
I do have some chard still alive out there. It's covered up for now and I'll see what it looks like when this cold spell clears. I want to see how long it can go.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (+mUZM) In the end of 2020 I rigged a hoop low tunnel out of various stuff I had around and had swiss chard most of the winter. I had less luck the following year, but we didn't have an ice storm either. I have also used those big sterilite clear plastic totes I got for free since they were broken and useless for storing stuff. Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 03:03 PM (rbvCR) 24
I do wish I could figure out the schedule for planting daikon for winter. I figure if they can grow it in South Korea, it should be a snap, here.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 03:04 PM (rbvCR) 25
Go Navy,
Beat Army! Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 03:08 PM (mT+6a) 26
If it’s chard you shouldn’t put it so close to the fire.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 03:10 PM (Khmwc) 27
80 deg and cloudy down here in S America, this was a mast year for the oaks in my yard. acorns galore.
Posted by: DanMan at December 13, 2025 03:11 PM (8uzBS) 28
7 Army 0 Navy
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 03:24 PM (Ia/+0) 29
this was a mast year for the oaks in my yard. acorns galore.
Posted by: DanMan -------- A term that will not be recognized by all. The bears here rely significantly on acorns. As an aside, Mast General Store, there are several in the area: https://shorturl.at/pnc2j Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 03:25 PM (XeU6L) 30
You need some pigs for all that mast!
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 03:28 PM (rbvCR) 31
*puffs ciggy*
Posted by: The margins at December 13, 2025 03:29 PM (pcnhy) 32
Oaks and their productivity has been the subject of lots of arguments.
Reds tend to be more predictable than whites (at least on my bit of earf) and I have no idea on the evergreen oaks. When we have a good white oak year, it's usually good deer hunting. Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 03:30 PM (q6tQZ) 33
I did get hoops and row covers but didn't set them up. same thing with my cold frame. am hoping to finally get this set up right come warmer weather
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 03:41 PM (+mUZM) 34
7 Navy - 7 Army
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 03:41 PM (Ia/+0) 35
BTW, any Morons in the KC area need a deer or two?
We're thinning the herd this month. Archery only. Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 03:41 PM (q6tQZ) 36
Afternoon, all,
A 1943 MGM musical with Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney, Girl Crazy, is on Movies! now. Mickey, a bit of a hell-raiser, is sent out West to a town where "There hasn't been a woman since the Civil War," according to his stern tycoon father. No doubt complications with Judy will ensue. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 03:46 PM (wzUl9) 37
Some pets love NOODles.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 04:01 PM (Khmwc) 38
It's cold and windy outside so all the more joy reading the wonderful gardening thread.
Thank you! Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 13, 2025 05:23 PM (NFX2v) Two U.S. Soldiers Killed By ISIS Islamist In Syria2 US Army Soldiers, Civilian Interpreter Killed by ISIS Gunman in Syria Two U.S. Army soldiers and a civilian interpreter were killed, and three others were injured in an ambush by an ISIS gunman in Syria on Dec. 13, according to the Pentagon and U.S. Central Command. Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said in a statement on social media that the attack occurred in the central Syrian town of Palmyra as U.S. forces were conducting a key leader engagement in support of ongoing counter-ISIS and counterterrorism operations.The new president of Syria, Ahmed al-Sharaa, is supposedly against ISIS, but that is a tactical disagreement. Their overall goals are the same, so this attack, which will be condemned by Syria, is in furtherance of their shared goals of the creation of a worldwide caliphate and the destruction of the West. And we are in bed with this maniac. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Prayers up for the victims.
Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (W7XSX) 2
Not first
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (nbLIj) 3
Good. Mirroring No One's sentiment
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (nbLIj) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (3ek7K) 5
Called em
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (nbLIj) 6
Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said in a statement on social media that the attack occurred in the central Syrian town of Palmyra as U.S. forces were conducting a key leader engagement in support of ongoing counter-ISIS and counterterrorism operations.
------------------------- That would probably make more sense if they were with Syrian forces, who also suffered high casualties. As it reads now it sounds like they are just getting ambushed by hostile locals. IIRC those guys killed in Niger in Trump's first term were with Nigerian forces at the time. The Nigerian Army is pretty hopeless though. Even Wagner can't do much with them. Maybe the "new" Syrian Army is the same. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:02 PM (UdiE9) 7
One of Trump's more "unfortunate" decisions was getting involved there.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 01:08 PM (NwnyJ) 8
7 One of Trump's more "unfortunate" decisions was getting involved there.
-------------------- Obama's decision, though Trump has quite obviously not reversed it. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:09 PM (UdiE9) 9
Willowed due to inability to tell time:
muldoon, the Knights are 6-5, Navy is 9-2. What is the Black Knights' secret weapon here? Full disclosure - niece is USNA graduate currently serving. Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:10 PM (NcvvS) 10
Worldwide cinders and ashes. Raze the place into the ground.
Your caliphate will be celebrated in the annals of fake history. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 01:11 PM (1zOXE) 11
To all the participants in the last thread: Thank you for keeping me entertained.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:12 PM (fd80v) 12
As I wrote I the last thread, the US stationed 2000 soldiers in Syria in 2014. In June of this year, Trump announced that the US would be cutting back from 8 bases to 1.
The reason they’re there is more complicated than anyone wants to go into. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:12 PM (k5cxK) 13
It will all be worth it for the democracy and freedom
we’re bringing to Syria. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 01:13 PM (9iyS+) 14
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'The reason they’re there is more complicated than anyone wants to go into.' The only conceivable legitimate reason would be to keep ISIS from returning. And I don't think we're accomplishing that. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:14 PM (fd80v) 15
Seems about right. Americans are sacrificing blood and treasure 6,000 miles away in Syria while somali inbred savages are running amok in Minnesota and places like Michigan and New Jerksey can't build minarets fast enough. Remember we have to fight them there so they can come here and go to Cinnabon and molest employees.
Posted by: Clown World at December 13, 2025 01:15 PM (R/m4+) 16
> One of Trump's more "unfortunate" decisions was getting involved there.
-------------------- Obama's decision, though Trump has quite obviously not reversed it. ======= I think Trump was lauding the "new" Syrian president earlier in his term. This term, not his first. A president with ties to the Taliban or some other Islamic terrorist outfit. But, not the "worst" of the terrorist outfits to chose from. Still, a poor decision IMO. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 01:16 PM (NwnyJ) 17
He is a young, attractive, tough guy, this Al-Sharaa fella is.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 01:17 PM (2NGiN) 18
Weren't there some generals bragging that they had, ah, 'circumvented' Trump 1.0 orders to get out of Syria?
Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:18 PM (NcvvS) 19
16 American troops haven't left Syria since Obama put them there. Assad only control parts of the country, so we had troops stationed in the Kurdish held areas. There was a major to-do late in Trump's term (or right after it) when officials admitted they had lied about pulling some troops out (though I'm not remembering all the details precisely).
We might be more engaged now with the new government than we were before, but in military terms this isn't a new deployment, just a re-tasking of an existing one. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:19 PM (UdiE9) 20
Willowed: been a fun couple days in the Mud Hudson. Three people have been killed in last two days in accidents just south of me on the NYS Thruway. Today three people killed in a murder-suicide in Greene County just north of me. Merry Christmas
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:20 PM (D+mpw) 21
To all the participants in the last thread: Thank you for keeping me entertained.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:12 PM (fd80v) Don't tune out just yet. I think the "entertainment" is going to last another thread. Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber at December 13, 2025 01:20 PM (pcnhy) 22
Willowed: Influencer defined = reach + engagement. Mostly reach.
Posted by: mot at December 13, 2025 01:22 PM (fIPNY) 23
Weren't there some generals bragging that they had, ah, 'circumvented' Trump 1.0 orders to get out of Syria?
..... Give this man a prize. You are correct, sir. But certain business ventures and foreign influencers have determined that Syria is of strategic value and no mere elected official, even the highest one in the land can override their veto. Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 01:22 PM (2NGiN) 24
After all the poo flinging in the last thread , a shower might be a good idea
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:24 PM (D+mpw) 25
The only conceivable legitimate reason would be to keep ISIS from returning. And I don't think we're accomplishing that. Posted by: Dr. Claw ============== Next step: why do we want to keep ISIS from returning? Because they'll execute an operation in the US? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 01:24 PM (1N/bM) 26
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Russians funding these attacks in Syria against us. Payback for funding the Ukes
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:25 PM (D+mpw) Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 01:26 PM (XuXeR) 28
And Christmas is coming so keep you heads on a swivel.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 13, 2025 01:26 PM (2WIwB) 29
The only conceivable legitimate reason would be to keep ISIS from returning. And I don't think we're accomplishing that.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:14 PM (fd80v What I’ve been told by a couple guys who had worked over there is that their actual purpose is to protect Chevron’s oil concessions in Western Syria, and they were placed there after Assad’s government became too weak to do so. “Isis” is just a catch all phrase for the renegades, gangs, and clans that make much of Syria a Mad Maxistan right now. Trump is giving support to the new leader because as bad as he is, he’s still better than having the entire place become Libya 2.0 Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:27 PM (k5cxK) 30
Cue the boardroom meme.
CEO: American soldiers are getting killed in Syria. ideas? Lackey 1: We could kill everyone in Syria. Lackey 2: We could install a different Muslim Lackey 3: We could start a 20 year land war and spend $2 trillion more dollars Based Employee: Couldn't we just leave? *thrown out window* Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 01:27 PM (2NGiN) 31
I would get out of syria, but kill all the right people on the way out.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 01:29 PM (snZF9) 32
Should be raining fire
Posted by: NCKate at December 13, 2025 01:29 PM (uQzkA) 33
29 - if so, my answer would be to let Chevron foot the bill for security. Let them create another Executive Outcomes or Sandline if they don't want to use an existing PMC. Rules of engagement? Geneva Suggestions? Never heard of 'em.
Posted by: PabloD at December 13, 2025 01:31 PM (Epuwl) 34
if so, my answer would be to let Chevron foot the bill for security
That business model doesn't make financial sense for Chevron. Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 01:33 PM (2NGiN) 35
Sad news, at least there is a adult in the White house to deal with this
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 01:34 PM (Ia/+0) 36
The biggest player in Syria right now is Turkey.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 01:35 PM (sDNVV) 37
I don’t believe there is any actual organized ISiS anymore, But what IS in most of Syria is thousands of homicidally insane people roaming around, kind of like “The hills have Eyes” (middle eastern version)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:36 PM (k5cxK) 38
A nigh-futile appeal, as effective as tears in the rain:
Unfortunately, when a COB deletes a comment, all subsequent comment numbers get decremented. SO, if someone references the deleted comment, or a later one, by comment number, it won't be referencing the intended comment. (There are perma-links to comments, but they're hidden in the comment-number links, and for tech reasons, often don't cue up if you try to use that URL.) To be clear, it's usually best to quote-back some relevant bit of the comment to which you're replying, including the commenter nic-name. Tedious, but if you want to be sure, it's about the only way to do it. Comments which are simply, like, "I agree" might be referencing any previous comment. It's often amusing but oftener confusing, as Li'l Abner might say. Now, carry on however you wish, as Morons will. Posted by: mindful webworker - next lecture-- how to link to YooToobs at December 13, 2025 01:36 PM (lbDMw) 39
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The biggest player in Syria right now is Turkey. ------------------------- Exactly. I think it's reason #[insert big number here] why ending the Ukraine War is so critical. Erdogan gets leverage from the West by being (mostly) very pro-Ukraine. As a result, pressure isn't put on him that otherwise would be (like regarding 'migrants' to Europe or controlling his proxies in Damascus. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:37 PM (UdiE9) 40
Don't tune out just yet. I think the "entertainment" is going to last another thread.
Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber ------- I know, I know...! Let's engage in defensive ad hominem attacks! Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 01:38 PM (XeU6L) 41
The current Syrian government is far weaker than most seem to realize. And also in defense of Trump trying to work with them - there are no “good” choices in Syria. Only trying to figure out what is the least bad choice.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:39 PM (k5cxK) 42
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'What I’ve been told by a couple guys who had worked over there is that their actual purpose is to protect Chevron’s oil concessions in Western Syria,...' Chevron isn't much of a rallying point for a military commitment. My understanding of the reason for killing ISIS was because it was destabilizing Iraq and was going to be a new Al Queda. 'Trump is giving support to the new leader because as bad as he is, he’s still better than having the entire place become Libya 2.0' My memory of Libya was that they killed Qaddafi, temporarily became jihadist and let a flood of migrants through. Which of those are we afraid of with Syria? They can't kill Qaddafi again. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:40 PM (fd80v) Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2025 01:40 PM (n9ltV) 44
41 - Yup, and if we want to transition from an idealist, Wilsonian foreign policy to a more realist one (something I devoutly wish for) then we can't refuse to work with someone because of their past. Libya in 2011 was far better off under Gaddafi in spite of his lunatic terrorism in the 1980s than it has been ever since his death.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:42 PM (UdiE9) 45
about the gunman:
from the article: U.S. Central Command said the casualties resulted from an ambush by a lone ISIS gunman, who was engaged by U.S. forces and killed. Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 01:42 PM (RuTUS) 46
You’re correct the biggest player in Syria is Turkey, and I think the worst possible option would be for Syria to collapse into anarchy to the point where Erdogan would feel free to make it Turkey’s new southern province. And then Israel could be looking at the Turkish Army setting up camp right on its northern border.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:42 PM (k5cxK) 47
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I agree. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:43 PM (fd80v) Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 01:43 PM (RuTUS) 49
Comments which are simply, like, "I agree" might be referencing any previous comment. It's often amusing but oftener confusing, as Li'l Abner might say.
Now, carry on however you wish, as Morons will. Posted by: mindful webworker - next lecture-- how to link to YooToobs Posted by: mindful webworker - next lecture-- how to link to YooToob --- Theres them that do and them that don't. Hard to get people to change there ways. What gets it long running conversations about 'her' or 'him'. Huh? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 01:47 PM (w5Fg+) 50
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I agree. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo 😄 Just part of the price we pay for not having something awful like Diksuks comments. Okay, so as one of the troublemaking COBs who create that confusion, how about instead of deleting comments, just blank out the text and nic? (And have Pixy adjust the autobanhammers to do the same.) Now, carry on however you wish, as COBs will. Posted by: mindful webworker - like if you disagree at December 13, 2025 01:48 PM (lbDMw) 51
The Israelis should say screw it and carve out a Druze homeland between the Golan Heights and Damascus. The Turks and Erdogan want to recreate the Ottoman Empire by getting land from Syria. Beat them to the punch
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:51 PM (D+mpw) Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 01:51 PM (RuTUS) 53
Half the fun of this place lies in confusion over the comments.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 01:53 PM (5UnvZ) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 01:54 PM (3ek7K) 55
Sick of this.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 01:54 PM (LjSYW) 56
46 You’re correct the biggest player in Syria is Turkey, and I think the worst possible option would be for Syria to collapse into anarchy to the point where Erdogan would feel free to make it Turkey’s new southern province. And then Israel could be looking at the Turkish Army setting up camp right on its northern border.
Posted by: Tom Servo ---- Some might say, Erdogan calls that a plan. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 01:57 PM (w5Fg+) 57
If the "lone" Syrian gunman has any ties to any group whatsoever, up to and including the Boy Scouts of Syria, those entire organizations should be wiped off the battlefield.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 01:57 PM (vV6n9) 58
We need to leave Syria.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (3ek7K) Either leave, or else turn the place into an explicit colony, and govern with an iron fist. Convert all the muzzies to Christianity at gunpoint, and if they refuse to convert, shoot them. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 01:58 PM (npFr7) 59
My grandkids are so funny. Right now they can't fix the ice cream machine because the drum passcode won't work. So there is drumming and complaining coming from the other room that is hilarious.
At least they are getting along. Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM (5UnvZ) 60
"Syria" is Arabic for "Shit Hole."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 02:01 PM (L/fGl) 61
So much for the getting along part.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:01 PM (5UnvZ) 62
51 The Israelis should say screw it and carve out a Druze homeland between the Golan Heights and Damascus. The Turks and Erdogan want to recreate the Ottoman Empire by getting land from Syria. Beat them to the punch
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:51 PM (D+mpw) I agree! One of my criticisms of Netanyahu’s government is that they’ve treated this war like some great Bug Hunt where they keep taking out “bad guys, but they’ve refused to make any serious strategic moves that would make the long term situation better. Taking Mt Herman was great, but not really difficult after the official Syrian Army collapsed and everyone ran away from their posts. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 02:01 PM (k5cxK) 63
Right now they can't fix the ice cream machine because the drum passcode won't work. Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM ------- What does this mean? Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 02:02 PM (azNOR) 64
muldoon, the Knights are 6-5, Navy is 9-2. What is the Black Knights' secret weapon here? Full disclosure - niece is USNA graduate currently serving. Posted by: Nazdar The Knights no longer have defensive lineman cadet Wilhelm from the late 70s to 81. Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 02:03 PM (QVmho) 65
If we would just reach out with love to the rattlesnakes, I'm sure they'd stop being poisonous and biting us.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 02:04 PM (L/fGl) 66
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'Right now they can't fix the ice cream machine because the drum passcode won't work. What does this mean?' It means 'The dog barks at midnight. Await further transmission.' Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 02:05 PM (fd80v) 67
63 Right now they can't fix the ice cream machine because the drum passcode won't work.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM ------- What does this mean? Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 02:02 PM (azNOR) Thank for this question! Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 02:06 PM (RuTUS) 68
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I agree. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2025 01:40 PM (n9ltV) heh Posted by: m --- I knew it. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:06 PM (w5Fg+) 69
65 If we would just reach out with love to the rattlesnakes, I'm sure they'd stop being poisonous and biting us.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 02:04 PM (L/fGl) Bears, too. Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (RuTUS) 70
What does this mean?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 02:02 PM (azNOR) The younger one is playing "codes" on my drum set while the older one is complaing that he's not doing the right code so he can fix the imaginary ice cream machine in their pretend cafe. Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (5UnvZ) 71
70 What does this mean?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 02:02 PM (azNOR) The younger one is playing "codes" on my drum set while the older one is complaing that he's not doing the right code so he can fix the imaginary ice cream machine in their pretend cafe. Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (5UnvZ) Cool granddad. Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 02:08 PM (RuTUS) 72
Cool granddad.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 02:08 PM (RuTUS) I get free imaginary hot chocolate. Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:09 PM (5UnvZ) 73
Taxes are magic.
China Taxes Condoms to Spark a Baby Boom – Protection Now Comes at a Price - I don't recall my father mentioning this in his birds and the bees talk. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 02:09 PM (L/fGl) 74
Libya in 2011 was far better off under Gaddafi in spite of his lunatic terrorism in the 1980s than it has been ever since his death.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:42 PM (UdiE9) I did enjoy watching Gaddafi get sodomized with that stick after they pulled him out of that storm drain then killed him. He seemed surprised they would do such a thing. Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at December 13, 2025 02:10 PM (R/m4+) 75
>>>Either leave, or else turn the place into an explicit colony, and govern with an iron fist. Convert all the muzzies to Christianity at gunpoint, and if they refuse to convert, shoot them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon --- This could be a new Homeland for all the Islamists in America. It would be theirs to make great again. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:10 PM (w5Fg+) 76
If the West's refugee policies made any sense, the million or so Syrian military aged men in Germany would have spent the last 3 years in refugee boot camps being trained as a security service to return to their country and impose order there, instead of lounging in hotels.
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If China makes abortion as universally available/subsidized as Russia does (and has done since Soviet times) this will just lead to women using abortion as birth control. I have no idea what China's healthcare system looks like though. I'm told that in spite of being "Communist" they have less of a social 'safety net' al la social security than pretty much anywhere outside of the Third World. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 02:12 PM (UdiE9) 78
74 Libya in 2011 was far better off under Gaddafi in spite of his lunatic terrorism in the 1980s than it has been ever since
... Hillary had him murdered. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:13 PM (w5Fg+) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:17 PM (w5Fg+) 80
Well, it has warmed up here, for some values of "warm up". Gone from 5 below to 5 above on the F scale. And no wind to speak of. Also about 2 inches of fresh snow. I am going to get armored up in the Helly Hansens, and go run the snowblower.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (npFr7) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 02:19 PM (3ek7K) 82
Nood gardening
Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 02:20 PM (W7XSX) 83
Hillary had him murdered.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:13 PM (w5Fg+) Had to clear the way for Fiat to buy Dodge and get back into the American market. And that murder was pretty horrible to watch. Hillary's comments afterward showed what she really is. Anyone who could watch that and say 'we got him' is benieth contempt. Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:21 PM (5UnvZ) 84
According to the Legalinsurrection.com article the 'lone gunman ' was taken out
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 02:23 PM (Ia/+0) 85
If China makes abortion as universally available/subsidized as Russia does (and has done since Soviet times) this will just lead to women using abortion as birth control. I have no idea what China's healthcare system looks like though. I'm told that in spite of being "Communist" they have less of a social 'safety net' al la social security than pretty much anywhere outside of the Third World.
Posted by: the lower depths Just assume TPTB are lying through their teeth, as usual. Maybe party members get good care. Everyone else - Fuck 'em. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 02:31 PM (LjSYW) 86
It may seem remote but don't think the rest of the world is ignorant about the program for wreaths being placed on U.S. Veterans' graves today, the Army-Navy Game which Trump will be attending, and so on.
I didn't respond in time - yeah, I'm a pita - but I had received pics of young children (yes, one related to me) in a largely special needs Scout troop in GA who are helping place wreaths honoring veterans in a cemetery. They couldn't be prouder they're now old enough to help, or more respectful in the opportunity to do so. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 13, 2025 03:24 PM (NFX2v) 87
And we are in bed with this maniac.
The guy before him was an eye doctor. Western Educated. Wanted to Westernize Syria. Dressed Western. Talked Western. But he may or may not have dropped Tear Gas on a riot. You know ... the same stuff I had to sniff during Boot Camp. And for that - Trump dropped missiles on him during the first go 'round. While everyone here cheered because "Trump". Oh - and CNN gave you film of all the people choking to death while others weren't bothered at all nursing them. Its a real mystery wrapped in an enigma why nobody in the Middle East trust the United States. A real puzzle. Posted by: Howdy at December 13, 2025 03:32 PM (ivXYS) Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 13, 2025 03:54 PM (/HDaX) 89
The guy before him was an eye doctor. Western Educated. Wanted to Westernize Syria. Dressed Western. Talked Western. But he may or may not have dropped Tear Gas on a riot. You know ... the same stuff I had to sniff during Boot Camp. And for that - Trump dropped missiles on him during the first go 'round. While everyone here cheered because "Trump". Oh - and CNN gave you film of all the people choking to death while others weren't bothered at all nursing them. Its a real mystery wrapped in an enigma why nobody in the Middle East trust the United States. A real puzzle. Posted by: Howdy at December 13, 2025 03:32 PM (ivXYS) this was the main reason he was so weak and nothing could save him, including russia's intervention. it also made him a conduit for iran since he was in no position to refuse them. his father massacared hundreds of thousands of islamists, but he couldn't do it because "international law" or something. but i'm serious, there are millions of hardcore islamists in syria now, from all over the world but mainly syria itself. even if Julani reformed (fat chance) he would never be able to contain them. the only way to contain them is to kill them all. Posted by: juicer at December 13, 2025 05:29 PM (RDTzD) 90
We need to leave Syria.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (3ek7K) Either leave, or else turn the place into an explicit colony, and govern with an iron fist. Convert all the muzzies to Christianity at gunpoint, and if they refuse to convert, shoot them. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon Back after 9-11 that was a plausible course of action. And would work because they Grok "convert or die". Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (/lPRQ) What is an "influencer" these days?![]() Told you. Just another products of Influencer Studios Int'l.Colin Wright: A new report from @ncri_io shows that Nick Fuentes's sudden mainstream visibility reflects a coordinated illusion instead of a grassroots surge. According to NCRI, Fuentes's rise was driven by synchronized amplification networks, anonymous booster accounts, foreign engagement farms, and a media ecosystem that mistook manufactured noise for genuine political momentum.Details below:
Who are "influencers" mentioned in this conversation? Should we call them "influencers" or something else? I kind of hate that word. I imagine that a little money does go a long way in Moldova. by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Reviewed by Gary Saul Morson A newly translated volume in Solzhenitsyn's Red Wheel series illustrates how revolutionaries seized control of Russia. April 1917, Book 1, the seventh of eight novels in Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s story of the Russian Revolution, entitled The Red Wheel, portrays three crucial weeks that show why Lenin, with only a handful of followers, triumphed over his rivals. As the novel opens, Tsar Nicholas II has abdicated, and a Provisional Government appointed by the Duma has assumed nominal power. Everything it does must be approved by the Executive Committee (EC) of the Petrograd Soviet (or Council), a group of self-appointed intellectual representatives of the lower classes who can summon intimidating mobs. Meanwhile, the Russian army, still at war with Imperial Germany, is disintegrating, in part because the Soviet has issued orders eliminating all discipline. Notwithstanding the impossibility of doing so, the Provisional Government, to honor Russia’s alliance with France and Britain, has promised an offensive. Solzhenitsyn portrays the Provisional Government ministers as hopelessly impractical poseurs, who rely on stirring words and dramatic gestures. He quotes a Russian proverb: “A fine gait won’t help a lame chicken.” Why is the Provisional Government so helpless? . . .Well, there is not one simple reason, but: Reasoning that free people don’t require force, the Provisional Government, believe it or not, abolished the police! It also released criminals on condition that they promise to behave, and so initiated a wave of murders and robberies. “Some ask: How do you govern the country?, You don’t even have any police,” Minister of Justice Aleksandr Kerensky paraphrases the obvious question. “But, comrades, we have no need of police, because the people are with us!” With no means of enforcement, the Provisional Government had to implore people to pay their taxes. Nobody did. Solzhenitsyn quoted one appeal after another—soldiers, don’t desert! sailors, refrain from killing your officers! peasants, please do not seize land!—but the utter failure of rule by uplifting speeches and empty reports only leads to more speeches and more reports. “We have decided to take the most stringent measures,” one minister explains. “I shall appoint a committee of inquiry.” When the patriotic general Lavr Kornilov at last offers to put his loyal soldiers at the government’s disposal, it reacts with horror. Even while a mob was besieging the unprotected ministers, one of them proudly declares: “No! Even if armed men were to find their way into this room, we should not apply military force to defend ourselves!” Another finds still finer words: “We’d rather sacrifice our own lives than spill a single drop of others’ blood!” Most pathetic of all is the kindly Prime Minister, Prince Georgi Lvov, who attributes the prevailing chaos “to a single cause. The impossibility of meeting everyone personally, meeting their eyes with a kindly smile.” Using “the quietest of voices … and with one of his most bewitching smiles,” he asks: “Why the drama? Why make relations worse? … Everything will come right in the end.” When it becomes apparent that Lenin’s followers, who have already shot unarmed soldiers, plan to seize power by force, Lvov explains in “dulcet tones” to Minister of Defense Aleksandr Guchkov: “Where Lenin was concerned, the government should not precipitate events, for that might give rise to conflict.”Anybody find anything in the short segments above that reminds you of anything recent? There's much more at the link that might make some people feel uncomfortable if they were sensible. Beyond Counter-Ideology Gary Saul Morson Dostoevsky understood that people who defined themselves by ideology were capable of a unique form of evil.Do today's Marxist college professors like being called "influencers"? Republicans need to recognize that they will always start any election, contest or debate from behind the sticks. It will always be first and fifteen because Democrats have a built-in advantage in elections. We can debate whether it is fair or foul to have a federal income tax—and one so steeply progressive that 47 percent of income-earning Americans carry no income-tax liability. But the consequences of such a system are no longer theoretical. When nearly half the population contributes nothing to the cost of federal activity, the incentives shift in ways economists have long understood. People behave differently when they bear no financial stake in the outcomes they support. This is moral hazard dressed up as compassionate governance. . . . Progressive policy design increasingly caters to four deeply rooted but negative human tendencies: dependency, risk displacement, infantilization, and grievance incentives. These traits are not partisan inventions—they are part of human nature. The divide exists because one side has learned to weaponize them. Consider the latest fights over health-care subsidies. During COVID, Democrats enacted temporarily enhanced Obamacare subsidies, sold as emergency measures. But once installed, they immediately triggered predictable behavioral dynamics. What critics call “government generosity,” the public experiences as an upgrade in lifestyle. When the pre-COVID baseline was about to be restored, the reaction was not gratitude for the windfall but outrage at its removal. This is the cycle of hedonic adaptation—people normalize benefits almost instantly—and loss aversion, the principle that losses loom larger than equivalent gains. Withdraw something that was never permanent, and the emotional response is sharper than the pleasure felt when it arrived. These tendencies feed entitlement, the belief that a conditional benefit has become an irrevocable right. The envy that follows—resentment toward anyone perceived to have “more”—becomes political jet fuel.Of course, during the period of subsidies, health care costs also creep up, making the loss of subsidies scary for lots of folks. But subsidies are only the surface expression of a deeper architecture of dependency. When government benefits become the central organizing principle of economic life, personal agency contracts. Systems designed to help people end up trapping them, not through malice but through structure: welfare cliffs that punish earnings, housing programs that penalize marriage, college-aid formulas that reward borrowing rather than saving. A constituency stabilized by reliance reliably votes to preserve the system that sustains it.Have the Repulicans got any better ideas? Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 11:16 AM (Kt19C) 2
Good morning KT
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:16 AM (Ia/+0) 3
Oh noes, you might have got me interested back into the Russian Revolution
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:19 AM (Ia/+0) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:19 AM (3ek7K) 5
>>>Who are "influencers" mentioned in this conversation? Should we call them "influencers" or something else?
Paid shills works for me. Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 11:20 AM (Y1sOo) 6
I wanted to say something in response to the periodic eruptions of anger revolving around the use of the word "Boomer" here on AoS. I know I can do nothing about actual trolls or people who simply do not want to mature, but if I can help some people, all the better.
First, it is certainly true that Baby Boomers get blamed for things that happened because of other generations. The G.I. Generation, far from being 'great', was credulous and disinterested in cherishing the amazing position it had been gifted by our victory in WW2. Many people in that generation simply wanted to get more out of Social Security than they paid in, as they approached retirement. Many of the worst Congress Critters were and are Silent Gen, like Nancy Pelosi. My generation (Millennials) and Zoomers have lots of lost people who fall into weird traps and trends. Boomers aren't furries or trannies or "Queers for Palestine". Based on this blog, Gen Xers are mostly alright but enjoy bitching and whining too much. Younger people should remember that their generations have not reversed the trends they inherited, and show a little more leniency for older posters on this blog. We all fall short. Continued Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 11:22 AM (UdiE9) 7
Probably AI taking over
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:22 AM (Ia/+0) 8
2/3
However, there is a strong theme in the Bible that nations and generations are judged for their sins as individuals are. Prophets pray for the Lord to avert his anger at Israel as a nation, even though the prophet himself did not partake in the relevant sins. If Clarence Thomas posted here, I doubt he would sperg out if someone posted a complaint about black crime rates or single-parent families. The ladies here do not have conniption fits when someone (perhaps jokingly?) talks about repealing the 19th Amendment. They rightly note that they and many ladies they know are not AWFLs or karens, but they also admit the truth that if women voted the way men do, the Democrats would be a tiny minority party. Continued Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 11:23 AM (UdiE9) 9
OT. Got the sprinkler system winterized. Come spring time, I'll have to dig out the drain valve and replace it as the handle broke in half just as I made the last turn to open it. Now it's broken in the open position. Also need to dig out and replace a zone control valve as the pre-shutdown inspection exposed a cracked body that was leaking. Now off to read K.T.'s content. Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 11:23 AM (QVmho) 10
3/3
Those of us who are younger can see the photos of what America looked like when Boomers were in school. If we're a bit older as I am (I just miss the cut-off for Gen X) we remember G.I. Generation members who were founts of wisdom in old age, even if that generation was not what some make it out to be. Where are the calm and wise Silent and Boomer crowd? No doubt they exist, but even in my neighborhood, people in their 70s and 80s have no wisdom and act rather childish far too often. THIS is I think the root of the instinctive aversive many younger people have for "Boomers". If the person isn't just a troll (and they exist), younger people who feel like everything has gone to shit resent the geezers clinging on to what they have and offering nothing of value in return. For most of human history the elderly were revered, because they had wisdom to impart. I know wisdom exists. I often don't read through comments, but CTRL+F for commenters who impart what I regard as wisdom (Whig is my favorite commenter to follow). Understand that not all Boomer hate is coming from pure malice, and act as a black or female poster would on this blog. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 11:24 AM (UdiE9) 11
Hey, remember newspapers? Remember wire services? Remember television? Movies? Music? Celebrity culture?
The problem a lot of people have today, with "influencers," is that those who influence are no longer concentrated among the Oligarchy of Corporate Media. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:24 AM (WF5qu) 12
We set the standard for "influencers". Who knew how ahead of the curve we were?
Posted by: Macedonian Content Farmer Alliance at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (oftw2) 13
And of course, a big part of what makes Nick Fuentes so influential today, is because the people being influenced by him have parents and teachers and other members of the "adult" class harumphing at him.
He's trolling you, and your kids love it. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (WF5qu) 14
I have some experience with Moldavians. The law abiding ones used to fish for northern pike minnows (aka squawfish), as they had a bounty on them. Made pretty good money at it. We let them tie up on our dock. Really entertaining to introduce them to the state DNR folks, when they came to support us in trying to keep the dock.
The not lawabiding ones wanted to be gangsters. Had one go on a rampage, claiming that he owned our property. The guy with him noticed my gun and convinced his friend to leave. We mentioned this to the lawabiding guys, who sic'ed Mama on him. Never had any issue with them again. It was an interesting time and I hope the good guys are doing all right. I suspect they are. Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (+mUZM) Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 11:26 AM (/iMjX) 16
Moldova is a bit bigger than Massachusetts
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:26 AM (Ia/+0) Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:27 AM (WF5qu) 18
How modern progressivism caters to the worst in human behavior by cultivating outrage, infantilization, and permanent reliance.
_______ The first of the three isn't at all unique to them. You see outrage everywhere including here. While it's been common at all times, I do think it's rising, to late 60s levels. I have no cure, at least, no secular one. Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 11:27 AM (s0JqF) 19
> What is an "influencer" these days?
---------- Operative question: "Who pays the "influencers" these days?" Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ) 20
According to NCRI, Fuentes's rise was driven by synchronized amplification networks, anonymous booster accounts, foreign engagement farms, and a media ecosystem that mistook manufactured noise for genuine political momentum.
One can test this theorem in person. If you have 20 and 30-something males in your daily life, be it work, family or church, ask them who Nick Fuentes is. Then ask them who Joe Gruters is. I think you'll find Nick's name recognition is astronomically higher, and that it isn't all bot farms. Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (2NGiN) 21
The Apostle Paul wrote some letters. He has influenced the lives of billions and still does so today.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (2Ez/1) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (3ek7K) 23
So we just instinctively believe and not question what NCRI, a very left wing group, tells us? Guess who is heavily involved with this non profit? Lynne Cheney, lol.
This is the same group that freaked out about Covid “misinformation” and was all in on shutting up anyone who questioned the narrative. These are the people who see wHiTe sUpReMacY around every corner. It’s run out of NYU and Princeton and was founded in part by a RINO Denver Riggleman who, like Cheney was all in on the J6 “insurrection” bullshit. But OK they’re totally trustworthy guyz!! Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (9iyS+) 24
"Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ) Your children do. Well, you do, if you buy your kids' cell phones. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (WF5qu) 25
Maryland is closest to Moldova in size
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (Ia/+0) 26
15 Moldova?
Dolores!!! Posted by: muldoon I met the real "Mulva" at a party in Duluth, Georgia 20 or so years ago. Seemed like a nice lady. Posted by: Brush With Greatness at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (oftw2) 27
Thx K.T.
Influencers began as young women "influencing" people to buy products. Now it's morphed into podcasters like Fuentes , Carlson and Owens. I preferred vacuous hot chicks myself Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (D+mpw) 28
Dave Horowitz ‘splains a lot of the revolutionary marxist ideas and theory in his book “Radical Son”; some of it I was vaguely familiar with, but a fair amount was not. They definitely get way off into the weeds in lots of areas.
What really surprised me is how so much of it has clearly been mainstreamed and incorporated into the every day atrocities perpetrated on Americans today, the rhetoric and invective, public policy, the Narrative particularly academia and elementary public schools and of course the “news” was captured by the whack jobs long ago. This country needs an Industrial Enema, stat Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (eFKVH) 29
Influencers began as young women "influencing" people to buy products. Now it's morphed into podcasters like Fuentes , Carlson and Owens. I preferred vacuous hot chicks myself
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (D+mpw) Ever heard of the Federalist Papers? Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:32 AM (WF5qu) 30
What the hell are US military forces doing in Syria? What is the “compelling national interest” again?
I must have missed the prime time national address from the oval office. Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 11:33 AM (eFKVH) Posted by: Follow The Fleet at December 13, 2025 11:34 AM (oftw2) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:35 AM (3ek7K) 33
Macedonian Content Farmer Alliance at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM
I have a FB friend who post emotional content from a site that proudly proclaims upfront that they are in "North Macedonia". Often exaggerations of content from other sites. For example, not only does a mother abandon her five year old twin daughters for the bright lights before returning for them when they are eighteen, she abandons them when they are blind newborns and their dad teaches them to sew award-winning costumes in their "own little world". Posted by: KT at December 13, 2025 11:35 AM (7vIsy) 34
You lost me at "strong drink museum."
Posted by: Diogenes at December 13, 2025 11:35 AM (2WIwB) 35
Young ladies start as Influencers then move to Fans Only and lose their Influence
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (Ia/+0) 36
Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ) Companies who buy ads to be placed on their videos. It’s no different than how tv works. They just cut out a lot of the middlemen. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (9iyS+) 37
@29 I'm sure John Jay looked great in a bikini but I still prefer hot chicks
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (D+mpw) 38
Nothing is real. It’s all fake and ghey in the digital world. AI is shaitan prepping the analog world for antichrist.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (fHsz8) 39
A newly translated volume in Solzhenitsyn's Red Wheel series illustrates how revolutionaries seized control of Russia.
The amazing thing about Saint Petersburg is that the historic parts of the city are almost completely unchanged, so you can walk around and see all the places where the key events in the Russian Revolution took place. Sergey Larenkov came up with a technique (since copied by others) of using a World War II picture taken in Leningrad, taking a picture of modern-day Saint Petersburg from the same location, and combining the two. The results are often quite moving. Posted by: Blackadder! at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (xTIDn) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (3ek7K) 41
Companies who buy ads to be placed on their videos. It’s no different than how tv works. They just cut out a lot of the middlemen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald Totally not fair! Posted by: Man Formerly In The Middle at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (oftw2) 42
What the hell are US military forces doing in Syria? What is the “compelling national interest” again?
I must have missed the prime time national address from the oval office. Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 11:33 AM (eFKVH) Where don't we have troops? But then I have to laugh at people getting all worked up about podcasters who talk to Nick Fuentes, when we had the Al Qaeda guy, who used to behead Americans, as a guest in the White House. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (WF5qu) 43
Outfits like NCRI are also convinced that Russia stole the 2016 election with Facebook posts.
Lol Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:39 AM (9iyS+) 44
42 What the hell are US military forces doing in Syria? What is the “compelling national interest” again?
— Something about fighting them there not here. Or wait no it’s to do contain communism. Wait no it’s to spread freedom and democracy. Yeah that’s the one. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:40 AM (9iyS+) 45
A newly translated volume in Solzhenitsyn's Red Wheel series illustrates how revolutionaries seized control of Russia.
It's amazing that Solzhenitsyn has been dead for seventeen years, and there are still major works of his that have not been translated into English. Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2025 11:40 AM (xTIDn) 46
37 @29 I'm sure John Jay looked great in a bikini but I still prefer hot chicks
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (D+mpw) Me too, but the point being, influencers are not a new thing. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:40 AM (WF5qu) 47
Anybody find anything in the short segments above that reminds you of anything recent? There's much more at the link that might make some people feel uncomfortable if they were sensible.
1) Europe 2) GOPe Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 11:41 AM (Riz8t) 48
Is this about us?
Posted by: Vacuous hot chicks at December 13, 2025 11:41 AM (2Ez/1) 49
But then I have to laugh at people getting all worked up about podcasters who talk to Nick Fuentes, when we had the Al Qaeda guy, who used to behead Americans, as a guest in the White House. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (WF5qu) Ironically, had the US not poked its nose in every country’s business Nick Fuentes would not be a thing. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:42 AM (9iyS+) 50
What's an NCRI?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1) 51
>> Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ) Companies who buy ads to be placed on their videos. It’s no different than how tv works. They just cut out a lot of the middlemen. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (9iyS+) ------------ In the case of Tucker and his ilk, it's not companies, it's countries like Qatar. Sure, he gets money from endorsing certain products, but the bulk of his monies comes from Qatar. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (NwnyJ) 52
I do remember when Hardees (Carl's Jr) came out with an ad, featuring a chick eating one of their big fat cheeseburgers.
Lots of people were harumphing at that, as it was an obvious attempt by them to poke fun at the idea of hot chicks influencing people to buy stuff. My problem with it though, is I didn't believe for a second that chick ever ate a big fat Hardees cheeseburger before in her life. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (WF5qu) 53
Only new thing about influencer is the name influencer. They’re just famous people who get paid to say or write things. It’s been happening since forever.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (9iyS+) 54
Where are the calm and wise Silent and Boomer crowd? No doubt they exist, but even in my neighborhood, people in their 70s and 80s have no wisdom and act rather childish far too often. THIS is I think the root of the instinctive aversive many younger people have for "Boomers".
It is important to remember that the media amplifies the voices of those with whom they agree. Thus, you can turn on the "news" and see lots of desiccated boomers "protesting" something which, to the average person, makes no sense. Just as during Vietnam, these people are actually a much smaller part of the Boomer cohort than they might seem. Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (Riz8t) 55
What's an NCRI?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1) It’s in this post. The group that says Nick Fuentes is all astroturf. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (9iyS+) 56
What's an NCRI?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1) Nambla Communists of Rhode Island? Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (WF5qu) Posted by: Relief Factor, Goldline and Food Insurance at December 13, 2025 11:46 AM (2Ez/1) 58
What is an "influencer" these days?"
Hmm. There was a time when payola was a bad thing... Guess that's over. Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:47 AM (XuXeR) 59
In the case of Tucker and his ilk, it's not companies, it's countries like Qatar. Sure, he gets money from endorsing certain products, but the bulk of his monies comes from Qatar.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (NwnyJ) I didn't think anyone really believed that. I thought it was just a dig at him, because he doesn't support wars in the Middle East. He did a post the other day, where he was talking about how lovely Qatar is. Which, if you need it explained, was his way of giving the middle finger to all you people who claim he's a Tool of Qatar. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (WF5qu) 60
Moldova has a 2 year “digital nomad” visa. Anyone who has a job they can work remotely can live there for 2 years. For us Yanks, there’s not much benefit other than the experience. But for the rest of the world they can live there essentially tax free. The US is one of the few countries that taxes income earned by its citizens even when they live abroad.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (9iyS+) 61
I love how anyone who has a different opinion than “the narrative” has to be paid by some nefarious groups. Here’s a crazy idea. Maybe Tucker makes money because what he says is popular with a lot of people? Nah that’s crazy talk. Has to be Qatar money .
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (9iyS+) Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (XuXeR) 63
What's an NCRI?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1) It's the same company that claims Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are also artificially inflated by foreign bot farms. It's interesting, in itself, that these are the three individuals they chose to focus their study on. Almost as if it was meant for public consumption to, ironically enough, influence people's perception of the topics that they are discussing. Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (2NGiN) 64
Maybe Tucker makes money because what he says is popular with a lot of people? Nah that’s crazy talk. Has to be Qatar money.
Yeah, that's why Tucker is buying a house in Qatar - because he likes the climate. Qatar spends billions in the United States on a highly successful influence campaign. Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (xTIDn) 65
It's the same company that claims Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are also artificially inflated by foreign bot farms.
It's interesting, in itself, that these are the three individuals they chose to focus their study on. Almost as if it was meant for public consumption to, ironically enough, influence people's perception of the topics that they are discussing. Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (2NGiN) I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (WF5qu) 66
NCRI obviously never heard of the Steisand effect. Neither have any of the boomers pissing their pants about him.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (9iyS+) 67
> What's an NCRI?
---------- From their X account: Network Contagion Research Institute @ncri_io NCRI is a neutral and independent organization whose mission is to identify and forecast cyber-social threats and report on them in a timely fashion. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (NwnyJ) 68
I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (WF5qu) I will say, I bet it's not Moldova. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (WF5qu) 69
Oh great. The generation war has started. See y'all later. I'm out.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (g8Ew8) 70
I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (WF5qu) See my post 23. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+) 71
> Qatar spends billions in the United States on a highly successful influence campaign.
---------- They gifted the US President a fucking airplane. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (NwnyJ) 72
A quarter of Moldova has declared itself independent, the so called TransDneister Republic. It has a slight Russian plurality in population . If the Ukraine - Russian war continues and the Russians head for Odessa it's believed that they will try and link up. Who'll be the influencers then?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (D+mpw) 73
Network Contagion Research Institute
@ncri_io NCRI is a neutral and independent organization whose mission is to identify and forecast cyber-social threats and report on them in a timely fashion. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (NwnyJ) Sounds EXACTLY like the Biden Admin's attempt to set up a government agency to weed out misinformation and disinformation. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (WF5qu) 74
Oh great. The generation war has started. See y'all later. I'm out."
Yeah, no boobs, music, movies... just "I'm right, no.... I'm right" Tiresome. Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (XuXeR) 75
The movie Red (with Bruce Willis) has a humorous reference to Moldova at the end… IIRC the sequel Red 2 has it’s opening scene in Moldova, with bombs raining down on our protagonists… that’s all I know about Moldova
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (xT8gx) 76
NCRI was started in part by a “Republican” who left the party because it wasn’t pro-gay enough. Lynne Cheney is involved with it. It’s run out of Princeton. It focuses on exposing “misinformation” like oh I dunno anti-vax stuff.
But ok let’s believe what they say. lol. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:56 AM (9iyS+) 77
See my post 23.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+) Lynn Cheney, eh? Well yeah, she would have been on the list. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:57 AM (WF5qu) Posted by: It's like I don't even know you people anymore at December 13, 2025 11:58 AM (2Ez/1) 79
See my post 23.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+) Lynn Cheney, eh? Well yeah, she would have been on the list. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:57 AM (WF5qu) Oh, Lynne, not Liz. Same rotten fruit from the same rotten tree. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:58 AM (WF5qu) 80
Interesting that the AoS's two main contrarian schticks show up in the same thread at the same time.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 11:58 AM (Y1sOo) 81
It’s honesty rather sad that the right which is always skeptical about any “non profit” (as it is should be) jumped on this Nick Fuentes NCRI thing without any skepticism.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:59 AM (9iyS+) 82
"I have been criticized as being a tool of Qatar, and I just want to say – which you already know – which is I have never taken anything from your country and don’t plan to,” Carlson told the PM.
"I am, however, tomorrow buying a place in Qatar. I like the city, I think it’s beautiful, but also to make a statement that I’m an American and a free man and I’ll be wherever I want to be. I have not taken any money from Qatar, but I have now given money to Qatar.” He's mocking your Qatar, Qatar, Qatar! narrative. After all, it's not as if they gave him a luxury jet. Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:59 AM (2NGiN) 83
Time to go sit on the main page and wait for a new thread.
Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber at December 13, 2025 11:59 AM (pcnhy) 84
Rhymes with a female body part.
Posted by: Just the punchline at December 13, 2025 12:00 PM (2Ez/1) 85
that’s all I know about Moldova"
Those "eastern European" areas always seemed to be quite tribal, with family/ tribe branches reaching back and forth across the "borders"... supporting these artificial nation states inevitably leads to further conflict... Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:00 PM (XuXeR) 86
Did I say Lynne? Fuck.
I meant Liz. Yes Liz Cheney is involved with ncri. You guys remember her right? Haha. Yes that’s who wrote this Nick Fuentes report. The group who has Liz Cheney working for them. Ok really trustworthy source right? Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:01 PM (9iyS+) 87
Time to go sit on the main page and wait for a new thread"
Yikes. But these people are of incredible influence. Or something. Or not. Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:03 PM (XuXeR) 88
Did I say Lynne? Fuck.
I meant Liz. Yes Liz Cheney is involved with ncri. You guys remember her right? Haha. Yes that’s who wrote this Nick Fuentes report. The group who has Liz Cheney working for them. Ok really trustworthy source right? Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:01 PM (9iyS+) Is Lynne the gay one? I don't remember. Might be the old coot's wife. Regardless. The Cheney family is completely irrelevant these days. And good riddance. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 12:03 PM (WF5qu) 89
Lynne is Dick’s widow and the mother of Liz.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:04 PM (9iyS+) 90
. The Cheney family is completely irrelevant these days. And good riddance."
They followed the Bush family lead... Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:05 PM (XuXeR) 91
Follow the thread a X . There are several people who look at the financing of NCRI and it's an interesting mix. That doesn't mean that NCRI is wrong or that Fuentes isn't garbage , but "influencers" on top of influencers can be tricky
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 12:05 PM (D+mpw) 92
Would not shock me if a few tens of millions in USAid money was funneled to ncri as well. If the Cheneys are involved you know there is govt money flowing to it somehow.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:06 PM (9iyS+) 93
Oh great. The generation war has started. See y'all later. I'm out."
Yeah, no boobs, music, movies... just "I'm right, no.... I'm right" Tiresome. Posted by: man *sotto voce* no wait, come back... Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 12:06 PM (Riz8t) 94
I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
I will say, I bet it's not Moldova. The NCRI was founded in 2018 as a nonprofit organization by psychologist and neuroscientist Joel Finkelstein. Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:07 PM (2NGiN) 95
*sotto voce*
no wait, come back... Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 12:06 PM (Riz8t) Where ya goin'? I was going to make espresso! Posted by: Blind guy at December 13, 2025 12:09 PM (5xuJ/) Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:09 PM (XuXeR) 97
Here is the dog Dee of the “neutral” ncri lol. So so neutral guys.
— starts in 2016 at Princeton University, where Finkelstein was pursuing a doctorate in neuroscience psychology. The son of a rabbi, he grew up in Tyler, Texas and was seeking a contemplative, respected career as a university professor immersed in the theoretical research of the human mind. Then the world intervened. Finkelstein started noticing that a growing number of his friends, from both ends of the political spectrum, “were going crazy,” as he put it. “Intelligent, reasonable people who I respected … were suddenly embracing hateful identity politics. They were becoming really exclusionary.” It was not an isolated fluke, he thought, it was happening at a time when the sociopolitical climate in America and beyond was in dramatic upheaval. “I started thinking about it: Trump had just won the presidency. Brexit had just passed. Where did that come from?” There was one common thread: “I had this hunch that social media had something to do with it,” he said. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:09 PM (9iyS+) 98
Follow the thread a X . There are several people who look at the financing of NCRI and it's an interesting mix. That doesn't mean that NCRI is wrong or that Fuentes isn't garbage , but "influencers" on top of influencers can be tricky
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 12:05 PM (D+mpw) I was watching a vid the other day, didn't get too far into it, but the topic was that question: How did Nick F become Nick F? And the gist of what I was seeing was that yes, he's a construct of some kind, propped up in some way by whomever. I sorta lost interest, so I guess I missed out on who or what it was that created Nick Fuentes, but the one thing I did see was how he did about a 180 turn from being an ardent MAGA Trump supporter, to becoming the Internet Troll he is today. The irony though, as far as I'm concerned, is how so many enemies of the so-called right seem to get ALL this attention from the right, which just makes them bigger. For example see: Crockett, Jasmine; Cortez, Sandy; and so on and so forth. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 12:10 PM (WF5qu) Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:11 PM (XuXeR) 100
he grew up in Tyler, Texas and was seeking a contemplative, respected career as a university professor immersed in the theoretical research of the human mind."
Dude should've started buc-ee's instead. Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (XuXeR) 101
Finkelstein and his friends basically saw Trump won and Brexit passed. And they freaked out so they started a “non profit” research group on “online hate” to make sure radical ideas like that never happen again.
Real neutral stuff right? In no way biased. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (9iyS+) 102
He did a post the other day, where he was talking about how lovely Qatar is. Which, if you need it explained, was his way of giving the middle finger to all you people who claim he's a Tool of Qatar.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (WF5qu) No! He Is ClEaRlY aN AnTiSeMiTe WhO oNlY lOvEs PuTiN aNd DiRtY aRaBs --NeoConBoomerInc I recently read a quip that there are very few actual thinkers who are influential in our culture, and they act to lead their own gangs of influencers to try to get enough air to sway opinion and overawe competition. Most of the noise we hear is tribalism, repeating and amplifying scripts that others have created for them. There are different factions in the US government, and Tucker is one area, Fuentes is another and Levin is a third. Tucker's kid is working for JD Vance, and Levin's kid is working for DeSantis IIRC. Tucker is not playing by the accepted rules, but find me where he is not somewhere within the policy guidelines set out by Trump. This makes me wonder a bit about DeSantis, though. Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (rbvCR) 103
OT- I thought that this question was handled pretty well from the Bible question website: "Was Jesus a refugee?"
https://tinyurl.com/4d8cut6d Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (PFs9e) Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (cYBz/) 105
What knockers!!
Posted by: Gene Wilder at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (2Ez/1) 106
and they act to lead their own gangs of influencers to try to get enough air to sway opinion and overawe competition. Most of the noise we hear is tribalism, repeating and amplifying scripts that others have created for them."
You just described media/ journalism... save for the late 20th century when they claimed neutrality... but weren't Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (XuXeR) 107
Solzhenitsyn's writing confirms something I've wondered about - as horrible is it was, Russia really did deserve a Stalin. He was the natural consequence of the beliefs of their elites.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (uWKK8) 108
An nfluncer is the new word for "community organizer" of the 90s, a grifting person with no skills and no real job.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (0N4FZ) 109
The NCRI was founded in 2018 as a nonprofit organization by psychologist and neuroscientist Joel Finkelstein.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:07 PM (2NGiN) Let's look him up... "Joel Finkelstein is a psychologist and neuroscientist known for his work in combating hate speech and extremism online." Okie dokie then. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 12:15 PM (JHYx8) 110
Roll, roll, roll in the hay...
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:15 PM (XuXeR) 111
Last time I checked, Boomers killed more commies than any other generation.
Which is why they get all the hate. Posted by: Zombie Leonid Brezhnev, Sexy Eyebrows And All at December 13, 2025 12:15 PM (R/m4+) Posted by: Terri Garr at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (5xuJ/) 113
Anyone who thinks NF just happened one day is missing the story. He’s been around for 10 years. He didn’t just come out of nowhere. He’s also been banned by every mainstream platform until X allowed him back in. YouTube still has a ban on him. He was also debanked and put on the no fly list. Ya think he might be a little spicy over that?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (9iyS+) Posted by: Another punchline at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (2Ez/1) 115
But the RC church in MA still has the anti ICE display up even after the Bishop told the rector to remove it. National Catholic register site:
https://tinyurl.com/4xm27mbx Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (PFs9e) 116
You know, Burt, It's Go Time and Doubting Thomas would look less like third worlders getting paid by the post if they were actually responding to anyone. Instead it's just one post after another saying the same thing over and over. We get it. You don't like the source of the purported information on Fuentes. Shut up already.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (UdiE9) 117
An nfluncer is the new word for "community organizer" of the 90s, a grifting person with no skills and no real job.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM *influencer*. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (0N4FZ) 118
10 3/3
... Understand that not all Boomer hate is coming from pure malice, and act as a black or female poster would on this blog. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, _______ That is mostly OK, but my problem, as a Boomer who has often been denounced as "a traitor to my generation" is simply inaccuracy. The usual charges against the Boomers are simply things we were never responsible for. Unless you mean swallowing uncritically what our elders told us. THAT is a true charge. The claim that the Boomers were "following a different drummer", or too nonconformist is 180 degrees from reality. Most were just sheep. And egotistic, greedy sheep. I figured this out fairly early, and in college took to wearing a coat and tie to class. It's fun being lectured for conformity while being the only one in the room dressed like that. But really it is true that the bad ideas attributed to the Baby Boom were thought up by our elders. We just swallowed them whole. Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (s0JqF) 119
NCRI is the online version of SPLC.
Both are far left organizations that target anyone who questions left wing orthodoxy. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (9iyS+) 120
You know, Burt, It's Go Time and Doubting Thomas would look less like third worlders getting paid by the post if they were actually responding to anyone. Instead it's just one post after another saying the same thing over and over. We get it. You don't like the source of the purported information on Fuentes. Shut up already.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (UdiE9) Ok Boomer. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (9iyS+) 121
103 OT- I thought that this question was handled pretty well from the Bible question website: "Was Jesus a refugee?"
https://tinyurl.com/4d8cut6d Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (PFs9e) Good catch, Fenelon! Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (fHsz8) 122
Got into a little tuff with a Russian on miniature forum. Brought up Gulag Archipelago and he swears Solzhenitsyn was a KGB stooge and his writing is fake.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (Ia/+0) 123
No. Lord and tailor.
Posted by: Another punchline " "Tiffany? I'm glad for your sake it wasn't Van Cleef and Arpel" Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (XuXeR) 124
Tucker is not playing by the accepted rules, but find me where he is not somewhere within the policy guidelines set out by Trump.
This makes me wonder a bit about DeSantis, though. Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (rbvCR) Tucker saying, as he repeated again just this last week, that any Christian who supports Israel and who thinks of themselves as a zionist is Evil, is NOT within the guidelines of anything Trump has ever said or supported. Tucker saying that Maduro deserves our support is not within the guidelines either, and neither is Tucker saying that it is illegal for the US to be taking out poor innocent fishermen on the high speed drug boats. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (uWKK8) 125
116 You know, Burt, It's Go Time and Doubting Thomas would look less like third worlders getting paid by the post if they were actually responding to anyone. Instead it's just one post after another saying the same thing over and over. We get it. You don't like the source of the purported information on Fuentes. Shut up already.
Damn, busted. I hope I don't get fired by my Qatari bot farm for blowing my cover. Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:19 PM (2NGiN) Posted by: Old Boomer at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (5xuJ/) 127
"Joel Finkelstein is a psychologist and neuroscientist known for his work in combating hate speech and extremism online."
Okie dokie then. Posted by: BurtTC Totally non-biased, neutral, non-partisan guy huh? 🤣 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (9iyS+) 128
He also brought up Katyn murders were caused by the German Nazis so that was the end of that discussion
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (Ia/+0) 129
13 And of course, a big part of what makes Nick Fuentes so influential today, is because the people being influenced by him have parents and teachers and other members of the "adult" class harumphing at him.
He's trolling you, and your kids love it. Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (WF5qu) _______ Absolutely. I remember talking to friends in the 70s about this. We realized that, when we got old, youngsters would start praising Nazis and the Klan, because when you're young, "Let's shock Grandma" is the Prime Directive. The question is when does it become serious. One thing is already serious: Who dares shock the Imam? Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (s0JqF) 130
I hope I don't get fired by my Qatari bot farm for blowing my cover.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:19 PM (2NGiN) Hey I have a question about my paycheck. Do you know who I should call? Is it Ahmed in HR or Mohammed in Operations? Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (9iyS+) Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (XuXeR) 132
It's fun being lectured for conformity while being the only one in the room dressed like that.
Posted by: Eeyore "You're just giving in to 'The Man', man. . . " Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (cYBz/) Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:22 PM (XuXeR) 134
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Got you, you SOB. I posted on this very topic earlier in this thread (quite extensively). If you actually read comments like a normal person on this blog, you'd know that I am not a Boomer and don't even think like one. What shit hole country do you post from? You haven't mentioned sex, so I'm leaning against India. You're a bit too grammatical for Nigeria. Probably a Gulf State then. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:22 PM (UdiE9) 135
I think I am just going to post this every time someone starts talking about boomer hate
Boomers got told the world was screwed but they were going to be ok GenX got told the world was doomed and they were screwed Millennials got told they were screwed GenZ got told that people are being brought in specifically to screw them Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:23 PM (rbvCR) Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:24 PM (XuXeR) 137
So be it. I get it. Change is hard. I would gently request people here keep an open mind, and when you see an opinion you don't like, hurl an insult or two if you want, but recognize that this is not a monolithic echo chamber. The AoSHQ is a special place, in large part because people do NOT have to agree with each other.
Posted by: BurtTC Sounds like something a Nigerian bot would say. 😀 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:24 PM (9iyS+) 138
35 Young ladies start as Influencers then move to Fans Only and lose their Influence
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (Ia/+0) ______ Does that mean "influence" = "virtue"? Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:24 PM (s0JqF) 139
Hey I have a question about my paycheck. Do you know who I should call? Is it Ahmed in HR or Mohammed in Operations?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (9iyS+) I'd call Ahmed, but don't forget the memo they sent out last week. They are still withholding our jizya the rest of this year. The new No Tax on Dhimmis rule doesn't take effect until January 1. Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:25 PM (2NGiN) 140
I don't think Trump likes foreign wars. Nothing he has said or done indicates that he likes anything that kills people.
Unlike Trump, though, Tucker doesn't have responsibility for any promise made or have the backlash if he decides to make a hard stop Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:25 PM (rbvCR) 141
in large part because people do NOT have to agree with each other."
Nuh huh. Die Hard IS a Christmas movie. Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM (XuXeR) 142
OT
Fen ask your son to go to indeed and search for "Rutgers Laboratory Research Assistant". There are also postings for other research assistant positions at Rutgers Posted by: pawn at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM (EMg+d) 143
139 Does that mean "influence" = "virtue"?
---------------- No, but to have influence you have to at least fake virtue. Having your nudes and/or sexual activity all over the net makes it impossible for people to take you seriously. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM (UdiE9) 144
Boomer is a mentality not necessarily an age. It’s the mentality of I got mine and fuck you, you’re on your own. And also a lack of curiosity about anything outside their immediate circle of influence as well as the inability to accept new information that goes against their perceived views.
See for example ncri. All the evidence presented that shows it’s a far left wing group, but it doesn’t matter. NF is a bad guy therefore if ncri says he’s a bad guy and I think he’s a bad guy then ncri must be correct. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:27 PM (9iyS+) 145
126 Ok Boomer.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (9iyS+) Ok stoner. Posted by: Old Boomer at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (5xuJ/) This is a textbook example of ‘divide and conquer’. Boomer here with friends among every generation since 1949. Be better, people. America, civilization, and our lives are at stake here. Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:27 PM (fHsz8) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:28 PM (PFs9e) 147
sexual activity all over the net makes it impossible for people to take you seriously."
Hmm. So, people should take me very, very seriously then... Or not. Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:29 PM (XuXeR) 148
None of Trump's supporters support "foreign wars". That's one of the main distinctions between us and the existing Deep State, which wanted Endless War Forever around the world. Where does Trump have troops actually risking casualties today?
But there are still international situations that are hugely corrosive to the world, and as the leading power in the world either the US addresses it or it continues to fester until it comes to our borders. Venezuela is a blight on the hemisphere that should have been taken care of 2 decades ago, but no one ever tried. Trump is not risking any soldiers, and any who understand what he's doing will understand why Maduro's government will soon fall, solving a host of bad situations simultaneously. Trump is not sending troops to war in Ukraine, and he is not sending them to war in the middle east. He has a far more rational and supportable policy than anything the US has done since Reagan was President. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:29 PM (uWKK8) 149
America, civilization, and our lives are at stake here."
Careful, you'll give our beloved host a swelled head... Oh. Thought you meant "here", as in... here. Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:30 PM (XuXeR) 150
I've been commenting here more than 20 years. Go back and look for my nic.
Yours is a nic I've never seen before. Who's paying you, asshole. ---------------------------- I've posted on the same threads as you for quite some time. And the length of time you posted here isn't evidence of anything. No one is claiming that Tucker got paid by Qatar for his entire career. It is interesting that you and the other contrarians disappear for lots of threads and then all show up en masse to spam on this thread on a Saturday. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:31 PM (UdiE9) Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (qTiDB) 152
Tucker saying that Maduro deserves our support is not within the guidelines either, and neither is Tucker saying that it is illegal for the US to be taking out poor innocent fishermen on the high speed drug boats.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (uWKK and Levin calling for the death of all arabs is within the guidelines, or silencing of his competition is? Be very careful that you don't start down the path of "everyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi" because that is copyrighted by the Left, and you will have to pay them royalties. And you will be proving that ass James Lindsay with his "woke right" jackassery to be right. Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (rbvCR) 153
There are times when foreign intervention is needed.
Syria though? What the actual fuck. There is ZERO justification for American troops to be there. Less than zero in fact. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (9iyS+) 154
Ok, that's weird... hash just changed...
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:34 PM (XuXeR) 155
I changed my linked in profile picture of me to one taken when I had an old fashioned mustache and muttonchops, posing with a llama who wore it much better than I did. I also changed my job description to "Digital content creator, Influencer and self-employed consultant, Consultant." I get even more messages telling me I'd be perfect as a board member of some company in India or the Ukraine ....
Posted by: JML at December 13, 2025 12:37 PM (ZAkHP) 156
Two things blew up Nick’s popularity this year. Trump not releasing the Epstein files initially and bombing Iran. Those two things which happened in close proximity to each other made a lot of young Trump supporters say fuck it I’m out. And NF was the conduit for their anger.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:37 PM (9iyS+) 157
interesting that you and the other contrarians disappear for lots of threads and then all show up en masse to spam on this thread on a Saturday.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:31 PM (UdiE9) Interesting that you take the time to track who posts what and when. Get a life my dude. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (9iyS+) 158
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I have a job, you dimwit. I work. What's "interesting" to you is of no concern to anyone, including your mother. Whose nudes are all over the internet. And I banged her, champ. Deal with it. ----------------------- Speaking of Boomerish behavior . . . Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (UdiE9) 159
So, I guess my question about the Fuentes/NCRI issue is this; is the analysis NCRI did reflective of how Fuentes became popular all of a sudden?
I get that he's been around. I first heard of him within the last couple months. And I'm no slouch to this sort of stuff. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (NwnyJ) 160
Syria though? What the actual fuck. There is ZERO justification for American troops to be there. Less than zero in fact.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (9iyS+) Fact check - America has had troops in Syria since 2014, supposedly to keep down ISIS but mainly to protect Chevron's oil concessions. (no one ever likes to talk about that part) In June of this year, Trump announced that his administration is going to cut the Syrian presence down from 8 US forward bases to just 1. Yes, it should be zero but on this Trump is still better than any other President since Reagan. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (uWKK8) 161
>>It is interesting that you and the other contrarians disappear for lots of threads and then all show up en masse to spam on this thread on a Saturday.
You noticed that too, eh? So did I. In fact, see my #80. Happens during the week, too. Suddenly, "both" of them show up at once and soon start blowing each other, just as they have in this thread. Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (Y1sOo) 162
There are two kinds of people in the world; charming and tedious.
Posted by: Oscar Wilde at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (W7XSX) 163
There are two kinds of people in the world; charming and tedious.
Posted by: Oscar Wilde at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (W7XSX) Charming people seem to care about what you are interested in; tedious people care about what they are interested in. Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:41 PM (rbvCR) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:41 PM (7RYym) 165
So, tell me about your day, did you do anything interesting?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (rbvCR) 166
166 There are two kinds of people in the world; charming and tedious.
Posted by: Oscar Wilde at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (W7XSX) For some reason this reminded me of this: It takes far more muscles to frown than to smile, but it doesn't take any at all to just sit there with a stupid look on your face. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (uWKK8) 167
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It's possible they do it for free. Maybe they jack off to furry porn on the same Discord until they get summoned here. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (UdiE9) 168
Is Nick Fuentes popular?
I never heard of him before a month ago and I have never read anything he said or wrote. I don't care about Tucker Carlson anymore either. Tedious. Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (W7XSX) Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (Y1sOo) 170
I get that he's been around. I first heard of him within the last couple months. And I'm no slouch to this sort of stuff.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (NwnyJ) The Groyper wars were several years ago. He’s been a thing for a while. He had a long public feud with Charlie Kirk for I want to say 2 years or so. He’s been out there. But his audience is actual 29 years olds, not the AoS 29 year olds. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:43 PM (9iyS+) 171
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'Happens during the week, too. Suddenly, "both" of them show up at once and soon start blowing each other, just as they have in this thread.' Counterpoint: I pop in only from time to time because of work. Burt and MooMoo are practically always here. I do wish they'd stop blowing each other. Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 12:43 PM (fd80v) 172
Need to sentence all influencers to Moldova, then blow up their Internet.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2025 12:44 PM (RQW+z) Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 12:44 PM (NcvvS) 174
Just seeing that two U.S. servicemembers were killed in an ambush in Syria. More wounded. No details.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 12:45 PM (vV6n9) 175
Weird timing. I just started reading "The Gulag Archipelago" this past week. Now I will be looking a little closer at what Solzhenitsyn is saying from the "double voicing" perspective.
Posted by: Crabby Appleton at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (JcXec) 176
Don't flatter yourself, numbnuts. Attention whores crave attention. I give it to you.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (Y1sOo) 177
Happens during the week, too. Suddenly, "both" of them show up at once and soon start blowing each other, just as they have in this thread.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (Y1sOo) Oh My God Two people who share the same views post at the same time when the topic is interesting to both of them. Damn dude you got us. We’ve been exposed as Bangladeshi bots. You’ve perfectly exemplified textbook Boomerism. Do you really not have the ability to accept that not everyone thinks like you? Holy fuck man. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (9iyS+) 178
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169 "I fucked your Mom!" "I'm a fucking stud!" This is good evidence for what I was (politely) alluding to earlier about older generations not imparting wisdom, but behaving childishly. I know 11 year olds used to talk like this on multiplayer servers, but the only other people I know who talk like this are older (and generally overweight) know-it-all guys at least 55 or older. It's off-putting in person and hilariously out of place on forums and comment threads. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (UdiE9) 179
You noticed that too, eh? So did I. In fact, see my #80.
It's interesting that two individuals that have new nics that don't capitalize any of the words in their nics show up at the same time on the same thread calling BurtC who has been here 20 years a bot. The other odd thing is that the only ones that seem to have been openly outed for paying people $7,000 k per post and that call meetings with Tim Poole and other influencers to discuss narratives aren't from Qatar, but from some other country over there in the Middle East. Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:47 PM (2NGiN) 180
2 hours and 15 minutes until the Black Knights of the Hudson initiate destruction sequence on the US Naval Academy Squids.
Prepare accordingly. Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 12:48 PM (/iMjX) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 12:48 PM (tgvbd) 182
Another week, another lawsuit.
A preservation group is suing Trump over the White House Ballroom demolition. Unfreaking real. Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 13, 2025 12:48 PM (5xuJ/) 183
GO ARMY, BEAT NAVY! (Loser goes to Venezuela)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 12:49 PM (vV6n9) Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 12:50 PM (3ek7K) 185
Two options
1. Young people have had it with Americans sending money to foreign countries and endless wars and NF is an outlet for that viewpoint. 2. It’s all bots and everyone actually loves endless wars and can’t wait to invade Iran and Venezuela. Hmm which is more likely? Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:50 PM (9iyS+) 186
A new report from @ncri_io shows that Nick Fuentes's sudden mainstream visibility reflects a coordinated illusion instead of a grassroots surge.
I've been saying this ever since the right started losing its shit over this twerp. It's an op, and, as usual, the internet is fake and gay. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GvesS) 187
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Of the four people I'd refer to as contrarians on this thread, you are literally the only one I have never seen before. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:51 PM (UdiE9) 188
It’s time for pie and coffee break.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:52 PM (fHsz8) 189
I saw a headline a few days about an interview Fuentes did. He said he's a virgin and some stuff about women. I didn't read the article cause I don't care. Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 12:53 PM (3ek7K) 190
121 103 OT- I thought that this question was handled pretty well from the Bible question website: "Was Jesus a refugee?"
https://tinyurl.com/4d8cut6d Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (PFs9e) Good catch, Fenelon! Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (fHsz _______ The flaw with that account is (as is common today) its assumption that the Roman Empire was a unity. It wasn't. In those days, Judea was a vassal state, while Egypt had been actually taken over. We tend to assume uniformity under a given rule. That hasn't been the historical norm. Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:53 PM (s0JqF) 191
I've been saying this ever since the right started losing its shit over this twerp. It's an op, and, as usual, the internet is fake and gay.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GvesS) El Rushbo was botted. This bot snottin’ is nothing nes. Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (fHsz8) 192
Nothing is real. It’s all fake and ghey in the digital world. AI is shaitan prepping the analog world for antichrist.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (fHsz Absolutely this. I watched this vid on you tube last night about the harley twin cam engine. Its the biggest pile of shit lying off the wall misinformation I ever saw packaged as something serious. I worked on at least a 100 of these motors so I could see through the bullshit, but the average person wouldn't have a clue. It was a complete fantasy. They showed motors that weren't even harley, or actually harley engines they haven't made in 50 years. They claimed seal failures in areas that don't even have frigging seals, and never fail to start with, and on and on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5KBH7WwZk8 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (snZF9) 193
His interview with Piers Morgan was hilarious. Piers called him an incel. And then the groypers dug around and found all sorts of material about his wife admitting she fucks other guys on the side and can’t stand to be around Piers. Poor Piers I almost (almost) felt sorry for the fucker.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (9iyS+) 194
The flaw with that account is (as is common today) its assumption that the Roman Empire was a unity. It wasn't. In those days, Judea was a vassal state, while Egypt had been actually taken over. We tend to assume uniformity under a given rule. That hasn't been the historical norm.
------------------------- Right, but if the Bible had wanted to make some sort of "all refugees welcome" point, then the Lord would have instructed Joseph to take the Holy Family to Parthia. As it is going from Judea to Egypt was like going from Bechuanaland to a directly ruled British colony, or from the Marshall Islands to Hawaii. So I guess we should welcome in refugees from those tiny Pacific island nations we have Free Associated status with. Given that they collectively have 100k or so people, I don't think that will be a big deal. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:56 PM (UdiE9) 195
Muldoon glad you reminded me
No dog in the fight but like to watch it Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 12:57 PM (Ia/+0) Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:58 PM (XuXeR) 197
Nood.
Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (W7XSX) Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (Y1sOo) 199
144 Boomer is a mentality not necessarily an age. It’s the mentality of I got mine and fuck you, you’re on your own. And also a lack of curiosity about anything outside their immediate circle of influence as well as the inability to accept new information that goes against their perceived views.
See for example ncri. All the evidence presented that shows it’s a far left wing group, but it doesn’t matter. NF is a bad guy therefore if ncri says he’s a bad guy and I think he’s a bad guy then ncri must be correct. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:27 PM (9iyS+) _______ Incoherent. 1. It makes "boomer" a useless term, whereas if used for a specific generation, it has a use. 2. The latter part is worse. It is in fact correct to say that, if Stalin says the sky is blue, then Stalin is correct, if only on this one point. Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (s0JqF) 200
Fuentes is probably a operative like many Leftists do to make Conservatives into a scape goat
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (Ia/+0) 201
I guess we be nood.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (s0JqF) 202
NOOD. Syria is asshoe...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (nbLIj) 203
Doesn't Navy generally win?
Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (W7XSX) 204
Story Piers Morgan told LONG ago, on UK political party conferences:
Party conferences are wonderful things. All those drunken, vile, backbiting, hypocritical, sneering, self-interested, amoral creeps together in one heaving cesspit. And that's just the journalists. It's the one time every year when politicians confirm with their own eyes that the fourth estate, which so loves to expose their ghastly peccadillos, is just as ghastly as they are. My first conference was the Tories at Bournemouth in 1994. The News of the World, under my new editorship, had recently exposed Alan Clark's affair with that judge's cover, and I arrived to find him haranguing some of my executives in a disturbingly animated way. 'Alan,' I said firmly, 'I'm Piers. You can either punch me or buy me a pint.' He stared, bemused yet intrigued, for 20 seconds. 'Right, pint first, punch almost certainly later.' (cont) Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (NcvvS) 205
192 Nothing is real. It’s all fake and ghey in the digital world. AI is shaitan prepping the analog world for antichrist.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (fHsz Absolutely this. I watched this vid on you tube last night about the harley twin cam engine. Its the biggest pile of shit lying off the wall misinformation I ever saw packaged as something serious. I worked on at least a 100 of these motors so I could see through the bullshit, but the average person wouldn't have a clue. It was a complete fantasy. They showed motors that weren't even harley, or actually harley engines they haven't made in 50 years. They claimed seal failures in areas that don't even have frigging seals, and never fail to start with, and on and on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5KBH7WwZk8 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (snZF9) Side bar ewe tutes are 100% lies. Especially .military-themed. Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (fHsz8) 206
Well, my job is done.
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (XuXeR) 207
When the pre-COVID baseline was about to be restored, the reaction was not gratitude for the windfall but outrage at its removal.
Speaking of COVID... DC_Draino @DC_Draino They kicked combat veterans out of the military for refusing the Covid vax. They fired nurses and firefighters, people who they called heroes just months before. Families were ripped apart at the holidays. And for what? A drug that now has an FDA black box warning because it can kill you? People need to go to jail. Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper BREAKING: FDA intends to put a ‘black box’ warning on Covid-19 vaccines, CNN reports The ‘black box’ is the most serious type of warning, which highlights major risks such as serious side effects and restrictions. X: https://bit.ly/4oThblh Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (P5BPp) 208
194 The flaw with that account is (as is common today) its assumption that the Roman Empire was a unity. It wasn't. In those days, Judea was a vassal state, while Egypt had been actually taken over. We tend to assume uniformity under a given rule. That hasn't been the historical norm.
------------------------- Right, but if the Bible had wanted to make some sort of "all refugees welcome" point, then the Lord would have instructed Joseph to take the Holy Family to Parthia. As it is going from Judea to Egypt was like going from Bechuanaland to a directly ruled British colony, or from the Marshall Islands to Hawaii. So I guess we should welcome in refugees from those tiny Pacific island nations we have Free Associated status with. Given that they collectively have 100k or so people, I don't think that will be a big deal. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:56 PM (UdiE9) ________ Despite the Nood, I have to point out that you seem to have a problem reading more into people's words than they actually say. Work on it. Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 01:02 PM (s0JqF) 209
"Influencers" = "Fetchers"? Ad Men? Hucksters?
"Internet Carnie"? There has to be a word more reflecting the low nature of the "job." Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2025 01:03 PM (UwBs6) 210
Piers, continued:
Eight pints later, he'd decided on his legal settlement. 'For the distress you've caused my wife, 10,000. For the distress you've caused me, 10,000. And for the distress you've caused my sons, 20,000. I can't look them in the face after you said I flashed my knob at gay parties.' I considered my position. 'Well, that's a bit on the pricey side, Alan. I've got a better idea. You give me 50,000, and we won't disclose the other nine women who've told us they had affairs with you.' Long pause. 'Nine women .. God .. what were their names?' Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:03 PM (NcvvS) 211
Afternoon.
Fuentes? Buying engagement? I'm shocked. Shocked! Okay, not that shocked. But 22year old college graduates aren't making high six figures in Fortune 500 companies and bedding down two new omen every night do that just proves we need to listen to that smarmy little faggot for...reasons. Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 01:06 PM (jVp5w) 212
Despite the Nood, I have to point out that you seem to have a problem reading more into people's words than they actually say. Work on it.
-------------------------- The original linked article concluded that Jesus was not a refugee because he never left the Roman Empire. You noted (correctly) that Judea and Egypt were not both states as the author's comparison assumed. I noted that Jesus would have been a refugee in the way the word is used now only if he had moved into an entirely different country, like Parthia. Now you are butthurt. I'm not sure what your issue is either. I guess I should just not respond to in the future, like Burt and his crowd. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:08 PM (UdiE9) 213
muldoon, the Knights are 6-5, Navy is 9-2. What is the Black Knights' secret weapon here?
Full disclosure - niece is USNA graduate currently serving. Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:10 PM (NcvvS) Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 13, 2025 01:11 PM (O7YUW) 215
Fun couple of days in the Mid Hudson. Three people have been killed in two separate accidents just south of me on the NYS Thruway. Today up north of me in Greene County a murder - suicide leaves three dead. Merry Christmas
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:11 PM (D+mpw) 216
215 Fun couple of days in the Mid Hudson. Three people have been killed in two separate accidents just south of me on the NYS Thruway. Today up north of me in Greene County a murder - suicide leaves three dead. Merry Christmas
Posted by: Smell the Glove Thruway's closed, Man! Posted by: Arlo Guthrie at December 13, 2025 01:15 PM (oftw2) 217
So we just instinctively believe and not question what NCRI, a very left wing group, tells us? Guess who is heavily involved with this non profit? Lynne Cheney, lol.
This is the same group that freaked out about Covid “misinformation” and was all in on shutting up anyone who questioned the narrative. These are the people who see wHiTe sUpReMacY around every corner. It’s run out of NYU and Princeton and was founded in part by a RINO Denver Riggleman who, like Cheney was all in on the J6 “insurrection” bullshit. But OK they’re totally trustworthy guyz!! Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM They most certainly are. At least for those with Gell-Mann Amnesia. Posted by: Michael Crichton at December 13, 2025 01:15 PM (P5BPp) 218
Qatar spends billions in the United States on a highly successful influence campaign.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM Yep: QIA ($557B fund) opened U.S. offices in New York (2015) and San Francisco. Has poured billions into Manhattan skyscrapers, Uber, Snapchat, and Hollywood. In May 2025, Qatar agreed to a $1.2 trillion economic exchange with the U.S. Includes the largest Boeing widebody order in history and $500B+ in new AI and energy investment. Americans are still blocked from owning Qatari media or strategic assets. X: https://bit.ly/4iRO1l3 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:28 PM (P5BPp) 219
I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM Public records, tax filings, and reports indicate a diverse mix of funders, including: Pro-Israel or Jewish community organizations → such as the Israel on Campus Coalition (ICC) ($335,000 in 2021) and the Ruderman Family Foundation ($34,750 recently). Hindu advocacy groups → such as CoHNA (Coalition of Hindus of North America, $26,000 for research on Hinduphobia). Tech/philanthropic foundations → such as the Motwani Jadeja Family Foundation ($125,000 recently). Conservative-leaning sources → such as the Charles Koch Foundation/Stand Together Trust (announced support in 2020). Other reported past support → from Open Society Foundations, philanthropist David Magerman, Rutgers University contributions, and anonymous donors. Grok full answer: https://bit.ly/48TqBHG Open Society Foundations = George Soros Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:34 PM (P5BPp) 220
The extracts from that essay on The Entitlement Machine are exactly why what Trump is accomplishing.....is useless. Trump is trying to downsize government and save costs, but his programs are NOT addressing the real problem.
Until the mindset of running to DC for every little unexpected expense - at the individual level and the civic level and the State level - until the reflex expectation of federal bucks for every unexpected expense is broken, everything which Trump is accomplishing will be undone and undone right quickly. Trump can succeed wildly and beyond all expectations at every one of his goals, and even get them enacted legislatively, but unless the mindset of ever-expanding entitlements is broken, it will all very quickly come to naught. Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 13, 2025 01:35 PM (bufu1) 221
Rhymes with a female body part.
Posted by: Just the punchline at December 13, 2025 12:00 PM Gipple? Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:39 PM (P5BPp) 222
Tucker's kid is working for JD Vance, and Levin's kid is working for DeSantis IIRC.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM Via Grok: Yes, Tucker Carlson's son, Buckley Carlson, is currently working for Vice President JD Vance as his deputy press secretary. This was widely reported in January 2025 by outlets like ABC News, Newsweek, and The Hill, after Buckley transitioned from his prior role as deputy chief of staff to Rep. Jim Banks on Capitol Hill. Regarding Mark Levin, it's not one of his biological children (he has a son, Chase, and a daughter, Lauren). However, his stepson, David Milstein, worked as a paid consultant for Ron DeSantis's 2022 gubernatorial reelection campaign and his 2024 presidential campaign, focusing on Jewish and pro-Israel outreach. This was reported in November 2023 by Semafor and others, noting that Levin had praised DeSantis extensively on air without disclosing the family tie. The DeSantis presidential campaign ended in early 2024, so Milstein is no longer actively working for him in that capacity. Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:51 PM (P5BPp) 223
If NCRI is lefty, and lefty has been trying to call anyone to the right of them "Nazi" for years now, why would they act to discredit Fuentes - one of the very few to their right who actually does show signs of being a fan of the Nazis? He "proves" their point for them.
If I'm missing a point here, I'd appreciate correction. Posted by: AB at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM (ArLSQ) 224
223 If NCRI is lefty, and lefty has been trying to call anyone to the right of them "Nazi" for years now, why would they act to discredit Fuentes - one of the very few to their right who actually does show signs of being a fan of the Nazis? He "proves" their point for them.
If I'm missing a point here, I'd appreciate correction. -------------------------------- No, I don't think you're missing anything. I use libtard news sources to prove a point, when that point isn't pushing their usual narrative. Mind you, citing NYT that school closures were a disaster during Covid hasn't swayed any libtards so far, but I guess that's libtards for you. One of the best pieces of evidence that the second (more famous) Gulf of Tonkin Incident was just spooked sailors seeing things on radar scopes was that Hanoi loved to play up its attacks on Americans, and did not take credit for that "night attack". Hanoi were dirty commies, but the incentive structure meant that I believe them if they said years later that they did not attack the Maddox and the Turner Joy. Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (UdiE9) 225
I don't believe anyone is an influencer. There are just grifters and content creators. It's all about the money.
Left, right, queer, straight, single, tradcon, blogs, X, YouTube, Rumble, Twitchy, whatever. No one really believes in anything they are selling. They are simply picking a "hot topic" of the day and using it to make money. Case in point is this expose of "right-wing e-girl drama". These "right-wing e-girls" promote themselves as tradcons, yet behind the scenes they are a bunch of immature bitches to one another. YouTube (hoe_math): https://bit.ly/4rWlkaR Some of the crap these people say to one another is disgusting. And if any of it is true, it confirms what I've suspected of these right-wing "conferences" (e.g. the stuff like the upcoming "AmFest") that are nothing more than social hook-ups. Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (P5BPp) 226
I despise influencers. Especially the shallow consumers.
Political influencers are cancerous. Yes, I know some of them are on "our" side, but still dangerous AF. Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 13, 2025 02:32 PM (w6EFb) 227
225 That is a really good video, Clyde. Thanks for posting it.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 02:44 PM (UdiE9) 228
The founder of NCRI is a fellow named Joel Finkelstein, which just cannot be a real name. He may as well have called himself Jewey McJewface.
Either way, if you're going to ask me to choose between trusting Nick Fuentes, or Jewey McJewface, I'm on team Fuentes every time thanks. Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 13, 2025 04:36 PM (YINx+) 229
Let's stop using this fake word. Besides, the way i know your influence is zero is when this fake word is used to refer to you. People of real influence do not need to be called that.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 04:48 PM (4786I) 230
Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 13, 2025 04:36 You, like your hero, are a troll. A very hate-filled, bigoted one, at that. Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 04:50 PM (4786I) 231
Where don't we have troops?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (WF5qu) Lots of places. But as nothing means shit to you, you don't want this country having a military at all. Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 04:54 PM (4786I) 232
"You, like your hero, are a troll. A very hate-filled, bigoted one, at that."
Joanie hates Chachi. Don't cry. Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 13, 2025 07:22 PM (YINx+) The
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