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Saturday Evening Movie Thread 07-28-2018 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]
A Break
Happy Saturday, all. Commenter A.H. Lloyd reached out to me a couple of weeks ago because I had not written the ultimate post about Flash Gordon that he knew we all needed, so he went ahead and wrote it for me. I didn't object. I've written 71 of these in a row and needed a little break. So, without further ado, let's talk about 80s decadence!Flash Gordon Greeting, fellow movie Morons! A.H. Lloyd here, giving ThejamesMadison a much-deserved break. Some of you may remember me from the book thread, and maybe a few of you bought my amazing books, which are available for sale via http://www.ahlloyd.com. Crass commercialism aside, some of you know I'm a big Star Wars fan, and my Man of Destiny series was an attempt to 'fix' the prequels. Tonight I want to go revisit a close contemporary of the original film that has been almost completely overlooked by the popular culture. Like Star Wars, it's a sprawling, big-screen space opera the looms larger than life and features an iconic, unmistakable soundtrack. I am of course referring to Flash Gordon.
Beneath the Surface That's because Flash Gordon isn't just a space opera - it's an incisive and clever allegory for the US relationship with Europe during the 20th Century told from the European point of view. Once you realize that, it becomes one of the best movies of all time. Mongo is really Europe with Ming representing the constant threat of dictatorship. Earth (that is, the United States) doesn't want to get involved, but we're dragged into it anyway. Flash is the archetypal American: big, strong, honest to a fault and hilariously ignorant He has no idea who anyone is, or what's going on, but he's going to do his best to fix it. The locals are at first contemptuous of his blunt stupidity, but are won over by his bravery and complete lack of guile. In this he's backed by Dale Arden (the archetypal Working Girl) and Doctor Zarkoff, who provides the obligatory the-Jews-are-the-brains-behind-everything-America-does angle. (To be clear, this is from the European point of view.) Flash Gordon is basically a one-man American Expeditionary Force, knocking over the evil German/Nazi/Soviet Empire and teaching everyone how to put aside their differences and work together.
Actors Doing Their Part A lot of critics panned Sam Jones' performance as Flash, but his minimal acting skill actually works in this context. The guy's not a galactic superhero, he's merely the pretty-boy quarterback for the New York Jets, and he's probably taken too many hits to the head. What makes this work is the stellar supporting cast. This movie enjoys the talents of Brian Blessed, Timothy Dalton and of course Max von Sydow. Max von Sydow is amazing, but let's give a shout-out to Brian Blessed here for a moment. This is arguably his most famous role. If you know the movie, you know what this clip has him saying:
Speaking of the sets, the Art Deco vibe is amazing. Everything looks like it was lifted out of the 30s, including the space ships with their greenhouse cockpits and swept wings:
Movies of Today Opening in Theaters:
Mission: Impossible Fallout
Teen Titans Go! To the Movies
Hot Summer Nights Next in my Netflix Queue:
The Thing Movies I Saw This Week:
The Darkest Hour (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1/4) Poster blurb: "Wait...This isn't about Churchill, but a bunch of dumb people fighting dumb aliens." [Netflix DVD]
Darkest Hour (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "That's better. Wonderfully engaging performance even if the structure feels just the tiniest bit off." [Personal Collection]
A Tale of Two Cities (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "Probably the best Charles Dickens adaptation you will ever get." [Archive.org]
Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) [Rewatch] "Obviously a first draft with first draft problems, but I still enjoy it quite a bit." [Personal Collection]
My Man Godfrey (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 5/4) [Rewatch] "Witty and funny comedy of manners." [Amazon Prime]
Enemy (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) [Rewatch] "Not as opaque as some people say, and really quite engaging." [Netflix Instant]
Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut [Rewatch] (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "A sophisticated modern epic with fantastic action." [Personal Collection]
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 07:13 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 07:13 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 28, 2018 07:14 PM (aNP7B)
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 28, 2018 07:14 PM (aNP7B)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 28, 2018 07:15 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 07:16 PM (y87Qq)
It feels off because it is off. It's basically a commie reboot of Churchill's WWII years, trying to make him a commie Hero of the Proletariat. That's why I didn't like DH, despite Oldman's outstanding performance.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:16 PM (lYlRK)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 07:17 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 07:17 PM (pHfeF)
I know I've seen him before.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 07:16 PM (y87Qq)
You finally made your escape from the Barrel, I see.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:18 PM (lYlRK)
I can dig the Buck Rogers/Art Deco sets and costumes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 07:18 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 07:19 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 28, 2018 07:19 PM (6qErC)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 07:19 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:18 PM (lYlRK)
I just pasted an entire thread, and it punched out about six staves. Trivial!
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 07:19 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 07:19 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 07:19 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Max Power at July 28, 2018 07:20 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 07:20 PM (1UZdv)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 28, 2018 07:20 PM (IG3bX)
++++
A 5 on a 4 star system. Must really be good!
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 28, 2018 07:20 PM (KDpai)
One of the few effective anti-war movies. It's also the first with a recurring Kubrick theme of asking what makes us human, different than insects and machines,
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 07:21 PM (1UZdv)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 07:22 PM (rnAwa)
Love that film! What a shame Carole Lombard died so young.
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 07:22 PM (EzdLW)
They were shocked at how un-p.c. and FUN it was.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:23 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Old Blue at July 28, 2018 07:23 PM (gEvQ8)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 07:24 PM (gUCYC)
If there was a remake (yeah I know ... I'm not saying they should) what band would you use?
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 07:22 PM (rnAwa)
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No one can compare to QUEEN. No one.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:24 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 07:25 PM (EzdLW)
Great short stories, smoke coming out of the rocket ships, winged men with guns, Flash and Ming. Good stuff.
The movie was good too.
I also remember Sam Jones had nudie pics floating around in Hustler back then in an article about the movie. I think he did a shoot for Playgirl or some such.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 28, 2018 07:25 PM (EoRCO)
I've found this quote to be very useful in many situations.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 28, 2018 07:25 PM (VAx8t)
Posted by: Brother Cavil says at July 28, 2018 07:26 PM (lLeln)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 28, 2018 07:27 PM (IG3bX)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd
Honestly, that was an inspired choice on the part of whoever contracted them for it. I can't think of another act then or since that could carry that off.
Posted by: Brother Cavil says at July 28, 2018 07:27 PM (lLeln)
They stayed true to the old serial instead of wrecking it and as a big fan of cheese I give a thumbs up!
Posted by: f'd at July 28, 2018 07:27 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2018 07:27 PM (6bMel)
Posted by: Memorable Moments at July 28, 2018 07:29 PM (eKZR+)
Posted by: darles chickens at July 28, 2018 07:30 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: Brother Cavil says at July 28, 2018 07:30 PM (lLeln)
Most implausible part of Flash Gordon: that the QB of the New York Jets saves the universe.
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 07:25 PM (EzdLW)
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When this movie was made Superbowl III wasn't that distant a memory.
Joe Namath. Look him up.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:30 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 07:31 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 07:13 PM (gUCYC)
How you doin'?
Posted by: Buzzion at July 28, 2018 07:31 PM (Cvttt)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 28, 2018 07:31 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 07:13 PM (gUCYC)
Our little town had one theater back in the day, and the weird owner (we called him Lurch), would play pornos on slow nights, Mondays and Tuesdays. Given the large representation of Catholics and Mormons, you can bet he was not a popular person. For some reason I always remembered that particular title.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 28, 2018 07:31 PM (EhZNT)
Posted by: Eromero at July 28, 2018 07:33 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 28, 2018 07:33 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 28, 2018 07:34 PM (IG3bX)
No love for "Flesh Gordon"?
Posted by: andycanuck at July 28, 2018 07:31 PM (Evws/)
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Never saw it.That was back when pornos had some creativity to them.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:34 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 28, 2018 07:35 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Zombie Jack Horner at July 28, 2018 07:35 PM (1UZdv)
Blessed was really good in Blackadder 1. He seems to be a one note actor, but very effective in these roles.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 28, 2018 07:33 PM (/qEW2)
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The movie is fun throughout, but the clashes between Blessed and Dalton are particularly enjoyable.
When you get to the duel on the tilting platform, things are all-in. Impossible to turn it off at that point.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:36 PM (cfSRQ)
[Rewatch] (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "A
sophisticated modern epic with fantastic action." [Personal Collection]
Hey, it's not April 1st.
Posted by: you cannot be serious at July 28, 2018 07:36 PM (ERYwO)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:37 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Gem at July 28, 2018 07:37 PM (XoAz8)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 28, 2018 07:31 PM (Evws/)
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Never saw it.That was back when pornos had some creativity to them.
Posted by: A H Lloyd
Tell me about it! Any flick with a Giant Penisaurus, Emperor Wang the Perverted, and the planet Porno must be, by definition, a epic movie.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 28, 2018 07:38 PM (VAx8t)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 28, 2018 07:39 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 07:39 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 07:39 PM (PUmDY)
I have to be honest: I think Flash Gordon looks awful. I'm not sure what
turns me off more. Is it the glaring hyper-saturated colors, the Dr.
Who sets, or the terrible acting? I realize that's supposed to be part
of the "homage," but I also know that the clips provided here are more
than enough for me. The only thing I agree with is the Queen song, which
is pretty cool.
Posted by: Gem at July 28, 2018 07:37 PM (XoAz
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Clearly you've committed the cardinal error of watching the film while sober.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:39 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 07:40 PM (yQI1v)
Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2018 07:40 PM (6bMel)
about the 1936 competition to climb the north face of the Swiss massif The Eiger (the Ogre). Good solid performances and beautiful photography. I am a sea-level lubber who loves being at great heights but doesn’t like the effort to get there, so any flick where I can taste the crisp icy air is a find.
As with all things Germophone I ask myself, is this a real language? I suspect it’s made up out of whole cloth, like Tolkien’s Orkish speech.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 07:40 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 28, 2018 07:41 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 28, 2018 07:41 PM (yhgOC)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 07:39 PM (pHfeF)
Playing what part?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:41 PM (lYlRK)
All requirements for Flash Gordon. Well maybe except for the color.
Posted by: f'd at July 28, 2018 07:42 PM (UdKB7)
Klytus watching images of Hitler flash through Dr. Zarkoff's memory: "Now HE showed promise!"
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:42 PM (cfSRQ)
Blessed a one-note actor???
See him as Augustus in BBC 'I, Claudius' ---- if you can find it.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 07:40 PM (yQI1v)
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The scene when he banishes Tiberius is great. Underplayed, cold rage.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:44 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:39 PM (cfSRQ)
I tried to watch it, and thought it couldn't make up its mind whether it wanted to be a serious movie or a silly movie. Maybe I should drink heavily and give it another shot.
Hell, maybe they were all drunk when they filmed it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:44 PM (lYlRK)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 28, 2018 07:44 PM (IG3bX)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 07:46 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 28, 2018 07:46 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: Robert at July 28, 2018 07:46 PM (DKWPF)
Hell, maybe they were all drunk when they filmed it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:44 PM (lYlRK)
I have learned that the best way to watch such turd movies is to get a lot of beer, and watch it with my sons and my youngest brother.
Mrs. Mahon promptly adjourns to the parlor with her fancy books. She don't get us.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 28, 2018 07:47 PM (EhZNT)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:44 PM (cfSRQ)
That mini-series had a lot of great British actors in it, Blessed, Sian Phillips, John Hurt, Patrick Stewart, and of course Derek Jacoby.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:48 PM (lYlRK)
Wanted to share that Criterion will be releasing a deluxe edition of The Princess Bride on blu-ray and DVD, this fall.
https://www.criterion.com/films/29368-the-princess-bride
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 07:48 PM (km8m2)
its mind whether it wanted to be a serious movie or a silly movie.
Maybe I should drink heavily and give it another shot.
Hell, maybe they were all drunk when they filmed it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:44 PM (lYlRK)
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You need to watch it on both levels.
Yes, it's a goofy over-the-top popcorn movie.
But it's also got some rather clever things to say about power politics, particularly how Americans deal with Europe. Mongo is jaded, decadent, twisted and cruel. Flash Gordon is dumb as a rock, but honest to a fault, utterly brave and he believes that good can actually beat evil.
I wasn't kidding when I said there was a deeper way of watching the film. Once you watch it that way, you'll never look at it the same again.
Remember, this is an all-star cast of seasoned actors having the time of their lives. The script is tight, the pace solid, and effects perfect for what they are trying to do.
This isn't one of those movies that is so awful it's good, it's legitimately good on several levels.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:48 PM (cfSRQ)
Fabulous movie!
Posted by: Ann at July 28, 2018 07:48 PM (e59uY)
Posted by: The Bore Worms at July 28, 2018 07:48 PM (jHLKx)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 28, 2018 07:46 PM (Evws/)
That's a great line.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:49 PM (lYlRK)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 07:49 PM (km8m2)
[Rewatch] (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "A
sophisticated modern epic with fantastic action." [Personal Collection]
Hey, it's not April 1st.
Posted by: you cannot be serious at July 28, 2018 07:36 PM (ERYwO)
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Totally serious. I love that movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 07:49 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: Robert at July 28, 2018 07:46 PM (DKWPF)
Say it isn't so! That is our (Hubby and my) "date day" movie this week.
Posted by: Ann at July 28, 2018 07:49 PM (e59uY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD2UE0tJ66Y
Looks like a mixed bag of candy 'n' cat turds. I think they are correct that the studios are ballz deep into the Star Wars and superhero franchises now and can't back out even if they wanted to. Who gives a crap, really, about Aquaman?
Now the trailer for Shazam actually looks fun and it's got they guy from "Chuck"!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 07:50 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:44 PM
OM, you're on the mark. Reading the IMdb page for Flash, and the film's own screenwriter Lorenzo Semple Jr would agree with you:
"We kept fiddling around with the script, trying to decide whether to be funny or realistic. That was a catastrophic thing to do, with so much money involved..."
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 07:51 PM (EzdLW)
OregonMuse, have you seen Lucas' first major theatrical release, THX-1138?
It actually begins with a short black-and-white clip from a 1940s-era Flash Gordon movie.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 07:51 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 28, 2018 07:51 PM (jHLKx)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 07:50 PM (gUCYC
The didn't use Shaq?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:51 PM (lYlRK)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:39 PM (cfSRQ)
Ah.
:: lights up a jay - cracks off neck of Valu-Rite bottle and chugs ::
Flish Gordan iz great!!
Posted by: Gem at July 28, 2018 07:52 PM (XoAz8)
That mini-series had a lot of great British
actors in it, Blessed, Sian Phillips, John Hurt, Patrick Stewart, and of
course Derek Jacoby.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:48 PM (lYlRK)
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Patrick Stewart WITH A FULL HEAD OF HAIR. My wife was a huge fan of his from Star Trek TNG, but she'd never seen him with hair before. Totally knocked her out.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:52 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 28, 2018 07:52 PM (TPaJb)
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 28, 2018 07:52 PM (jHLKx)
I assume Rocky Horror is high on the list...
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 07:52 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: The Bore Worms at July 28, 2018 07:48 PM (jHLKx)
John Kerry? You magnificent bastard!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 28, 2018 07:53 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 28, 2018 07:53 PM (oyZg5)
It actually begins with a short black-and-white clip from a 1940s-era Flash Gordon movie.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 07:51 PM (km8m2)
It's been ages since I've seen THX-1138, but I don't remember that.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 07:53 PM (lYlRK)
"Sha-zaayymm!!"
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 07:53 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: Fritz at July 28, 2018 07:53 PM (wjHbC)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 07:54 PM (km8m2)
"We kept fiddling around with the script, trying to decide whether
to be funny or realistic. That was a catastrophic thing to do, with so
much money involved..."
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 07:51 PM (EzdLW)
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The creators often have no idea what they were doing. George Lucas clearly hated the final edit of "Star Wars" and his "special edition" showed why he was overruled by the suits.
A lot of movies regarded as great were the result of compromises on the part of the writer or director and while they weren't happy, everyone else was.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:55 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: ro-man at July 28, 2018 07:56 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:52 PM (cfSRQ)
Guy: hey Patrick.
Patrick: yes?
Guy: Your hairline.
Patrick: What of it?
Guy: It moved.
Patrick: Bollocks! Did no such thing! Bugger off!
Guy: Whoa! There it goes again!
Patrick: Sod off!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 28, 2018 07:56 PM (EhZNT)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 28, 2018 07:56 PM (oyZg5)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 07:57 PM (km8m2)
The creators often have no idea what they were doing. George Lucas clearly hated the final edit of "Star Wars" and his "special edition" showed why he was overruled by the suits.
A lot of movies regarded as great were the result of compromises on the part of the writer or director and while they weren't happy, everyone else was.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:55 PM (cfSRQ
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Bergman considered The Virgin Spring a failure, and I think it's his best movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 07:57 PM (Jj43a)
Like a James Bond in Space thing.
It could have gone on forever with the history and material, but they fucked up.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 28, 2018 07:57 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 07:57 PM (km8m2)
"Hey Patrick, does the rug match the curtains?"
"Shut up!!"
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 07:57 PM (km8m2)
High Five!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 28, 2018 07:58 PM (EhZNT)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 07:58 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 07:58 PM (km8m2)
I have a Flash Gordon hardback collection of the comic strip, with
lovely Alex Raymond art. I'd like to see a movie of the strip played
straight, but I fear the aura of the '70s film will color any new
attempt for centuries on end.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 28, 2018 07:52 PM (TPaJb)
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That reminds me of something I left off: the opening credits.
Great use of the comic strip, backed up by QUEEN'S immortal theme. Arguably the best comic-inspired intro EVER.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:58 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Jim S. at July 28, 2018 07:58 PM (vkgPy)
Great soundtrack, good story, like the acting and cheesy f/x. And the women, let's say it came out during an impressionable time in my adolescence.
and back to Queen, hollywierd is coming out with a Freddie Mercury bio-pic?
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 07:59 PM (oFsfu)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 28, 2018 07:59 PM (yhgOC)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 07:59 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: otho at July 28, 2018 08:00 PM (LkFnL)
The 'joke' about 'I lost all my guns in a boating accident.' Yeah I KNOW it all really happened to you guys, but... what movie/TV show is that from??
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:00 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: otho at July 28, 2018 08:00 PM (LkFnL
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Ugh...
Yes.
Ugh.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:00 PM (Jj43a)
The Darkest Hour has Rachael Taylor in it, which means that it can't get less than 3 stars, no matter what.
The alien fighting story is no dumber than all the other alien fighting stories and the effects are decent.
The big problem with this movie is that it's clear Russian propaganda and was released only to help Trump win the 2016 election.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:00 PM (ZVU3Y)
Flash Gordon's soundtrack was awesome! Liked the movie as a kid but the last time I saw it I was less enthused about it. Nice write up about it though. Maybe I'll try to watch it, if it shows up on TV again.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 28, 2018 08:00 PM (P+NFm)
If there was a remake (yeah I know ... I'm not saying they should) what band would you use?
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 07:22 PM (rnAwa)
The new sensation, Greta Van Fleet?
LOL.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 28, 2018 08:01 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:01 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:01 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: otho at July 28, 2018 08:00 PM (LkFnL)
It was absolutely awful.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:01 PM (ZVU3Y)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:01 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: Brother Cavil says at July 28, 2018 08:01 PM (lLeln)
Flash Gordon should have been a series of movies, just like the black and white original.
Like a James Bond in Space thing.
It could have gone on forever with the history and material, but they fucked up.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 28, 2018 07:57 PM (EoRCO)
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It was a commercial disappointment in the US, and that killed the project. Honestly, it's hard to see how any franchise could have competed with Star Wars in its prime.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:02 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 28, 2018 08:02 PM (oyZg5)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 08:02 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:01 PM (km8m2
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Hey!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:02 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 28, 2018 08:03 PM (CSNuj)
Coming soon to a theater near you:
"Caligula 2: Electric Bugaloo"
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:03 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:03 PM (y87Qq)
Hell if I had any video editing skills I'd stick Trump's face on Sam Jones too and drive liberals nuts.
"Trump! Ah ah! Savior of the universe!"
Posted by: alleninhawaii at July 28, 2018 08:03 PM (euJpb)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 07:55 PM (cfSRQ
Yeah, well, in the case of Star Wars, I think they were just cleaning up George Lucas' messes. Like the final attack on the Death Star. It was kind of meh, and then Lucas' wife re-edited it to what we see in the movie, and it's much tighter and suspenseful.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:03 PM (lYlRK)
"Trump! Ah ah! Savior of the universe!"
Posted by: alleninhawaii at July 28, 2018 08:03 PM (euJpb)
THAT is awesome.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 28, 2018 08:04 PM (8iiMU)
I never gave it any deeper meaning.
Posted by: JTB at July 28, 2018 08:04 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 28, 2018 07:56 PM (oyZg5)
We found this mouse in a bottle of YOUR beer!
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 08:04 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 28, 2018 08:05 PM (oyZg5)
I like most of Pegg's movies and this one hit the mark too. Why did no one here tell me of this movie??
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 28, 2018 08:05 PM (QLvwG)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 28, 2018 07:59 PM (yhgOC
Yeah, well, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:05 PM (lYlRK)
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RLM dudes discuss Carpenter's "The THing", and fling poo at the remake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSFXYKl_rf0
I've posted this before, but just deal. It's very good.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:06 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:03 PM (lYlRK)
Suspenseful as in "Boy, both sides tactics are really dumb with the rebels winning by a duex ex something" . Still miss Porkins and Biggs (or his mustache)."
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 08:07 PM (oFsfu)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:03 PM (km8m2)
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Would watch.
Oh wait, I did -- it's called "Skate Town USA".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:08 PM (gUCYC)
A.H., that opening is why I bought the hardback years later. Wish I could find the first volume; I think mine is No. 2. (Let that line lie, Morons!)
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 28, 2018 08:08 PM (TPaJb)
These belches are giving whiplash.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 28, 2018 08:05 PM (oyZg5)
Mel Blanc's voice as their dad.
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 08:08 PM (oFsfu)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at July 28, 2018 08:09 PM (VHlrv)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:09 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:03 PM (lYlRK)
What really made Star Wars was how they just made up the story as they went without ever thinking about what they had already done and went ahead and made the love competition from the original out to be an incest story. That pretty much encapsulates all of what the whole Star Wars series is.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:09 PM (ZVU3Y)
Posted by: Grunp928(c) at July 28, 2018 08:09 PM (yQpMk)
These belches are giving whiplash.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 28, 2018 08:05 PM (oyZg5)
Mel Blanc's voice as their dad.
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 08:08 PM (oFsfu)
You heard that honey? They got jobs! They got free beer! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 08:10 PM (NWiLs)
Can anyone tell me why I should watch this? Not being snarky. I finally
had to watch "Idiocracy" to get all of the references and I did not
feel dumber for doing so.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 28, 2018 07:59 PM (yhgOC)
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Because it's fun. If you just let it unfold, it's a riot.
If you want to be all serious, study which character represents which country. Is Prince Barin France or the UK? Is Ming more Nazi or Soviet? There's also some subtle relationship things going on, such as Klytus dating General Kala while openly lusting after Princess Aura.
You can enjoy it on the surface and a lot of people do, but I feel you need to look a little deeper to get the most out of it. There's actually a lot going on, but most people miss it on the first viewing.
I've watched this thing at least 30 times, probably more. Like "Casablanca," it never grows stale and I try to keep myself from watching it too often, otherwise it gets stale.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:10 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 08:10 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at July 28, 2018 08:09 PM (VHlrv)
Nice tennis balls reference Mr. McEnroe
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 08:10 PM (oFsfu)
These belches are giving whiplash.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 28, 2018 08:05 PM (oyZg5)
Mel Blanc's voice as their dad.
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 08:08 PM (oFsfu)
You know 'Strange Brew' is a silly retelling of 'Hamlet', right?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:10 PM (lYlRK)
I hadn't even heard of this movie until the night I saw it, earlier this week. It's about a "hotshots" wildfire firefighting crew from Prescott AZ who became the first non-federal hotshots-certified team. Josh Brolin, Jennifer Connelly, Miles Teller.
It's chock full of what SJWs would call toxic masculinity. Hardworking men dedicating themselves to extremely dangerous work, their lives depend on each other, and through all of that they still do funny sh*t to each other, practical jokes etc. And that makes it pretty darn good.
Top notch typical Hollywood moviemaking proficiency without any progressive virtue-signalling that I could discern. The last couple scenes left dust in my eyes. Amazing how a well-crafted film can play with your emotions.
With the news of the CA wildfires, having seen this movie version of the sort of work wildfire-fighters do, gives me deep respect for the ones fighting the fires in CA.
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 08:11 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:10 PM (cfSRQ)
Dude ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:11 PM (ZVU3Y)
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:01 PM (y87Qq)
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Did you watch "The Terror"? If it's not scurvy or lead poisoning, it's sub-zero temps and angry animal spirits.
Or "just friends" cannibalism.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:12 PM (gUCYC)
You know 'Strange Brew' is a silly retelling of 'Hamlet', right?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:10 PM (lYlRK)
Yahoo Serious' Young Einstein >> Strange Brew
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:12 PM (ZVU3Y)
Yes.
Ugh.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:00 PM
LOL. To be fair it was better than most of the crap coming out in the genre these days... but... as a sequel/prequel/remake (what the hell was it supposed to be anyway?) it is a travesty in relation to the 1982 film. So many things wrong with it, including story, characterization, pacing, etc. As a recent standalone flick, maybe a pass mark. As a "The Thing" movie... fucking retarded.
Posted by: otho at July 28, 2018 08:12 PM (LkFnL)
These belches are giving whiplash.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 28, 2018 08:05 PM (oyZg5)
Mel Blanc's voice as their dad.
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 08:08 PM (oFsfu)
You know 'Strange Brew' is a silly retelling of 'Hamlet', right?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:10 PM (lYlRK)
Yep. Hence Elsinore beer.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 08:12 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:09 PM (ZVU3Y)
Saw an interview of Mark Hammill some years ago and he said that when they made the first Star Wars, their thinking was that if they movie made $25 million, they'd be doing OK. They would be satisfied with that.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:13 PM (lYlRK)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 28, 2018 08:13 PM (yhgOC)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 08:10 PM (rnAwa)
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His whole schtick seems to be "These old squares didn't even know who I was!"
Talk about punchable.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:14 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: otho at July 28, 2018 08:12 PM (LkFnL)
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I don't think it made any sense. The CGI was obviously terrible. There were way too many characters which made the reveals feel totally random. I don't think it works as a stand alone movie at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:15 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 28, 2018 08:15 PM (oyZg5)
were just cleaning up George Lucas' messes. Like the final attack on the
Death Star. It was kind of meh, and then Lucas' wife re-edited it to
what we see in the movie, and it's much tighter and suspenseful.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:03 PM (lYlRK)
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It's more than that, though. The scene with Jabba completely undercuts the subsequent reveal of the Falcon. It's also utterly unneeded, useless clutter.
The prequels showed how awful Lucas was once he had total creative control.
Basically, the whole "auteur" model of movie-making resulted in a lot of crap. The studio system produced a far better product with a lot less sanctimony.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:16 PM (cfSRQ)
I've watched this thing at least 30 times ...
I try to keep myself from watching it too often ...
DOES NOT COMPUTE
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 28, 2018 08:17 PM (TPaJb)
Posted by: Gollum at July 28, 2018 08:17 PM (zysZR)
It got dusty in the room many times throughout the series.
Just Damn.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 28, 2018 05:25 PM (YmfOS)
Also the most fun I've had watching any show since I was a child. That says a lot.
Back to bed. Stupid summertime cold and flu.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 28, 2018 05:55 PM (YmfOS)
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 28, 2018 08:17 PM (fxdyE)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 28, 2018 08:18 PM (Evws/)
I didn't. That's the one that's on AMC? It sounds good. I poked around a bit on their website and I need a login from my cable provider but they hung up on me when I called for one. I guess you're supposed to have service with them or something? It's so confusing.
Or "just friends" cannibalism.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:12 PM (gUCYC)
As long as it's nothing personal!
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:18 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: JTB at July 28, 2018 08:19 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:16 PM (cfSRQ
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Both have their pros and cons.
Auteur gave us Scorsese, Spielberg, Coppola, Truffaut, and Dee Palma.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:19 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: josephistan at July 28, 2018 08:20 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:18 PM (y87Qq)
AMC is an asshole channel. They never put anything on demand. They don't run their series over again but try to charge tons of money for people to see the crap once it's been aired, instead. It's annoying. I stay away from AMC. And they cut the shit out of all the movies they show, too.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:21 PM (ZVU3Y)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:21 PM (km8m2)
James Gunn, what a effed up sick fuck.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 28, 2018 08:21 PM (fxdyE)
Heaven's Gate.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:21 PM (km8m2)
I thought they put on track suits and killed themselves to get picked up my aliens.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 08:22 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 08:22 PM (NWiLs)
Most of the original cast is in it including Hasselhoff and they're adding Swarzenegger for some reason. Hopefully they'll keep it weird, low budget, and over the top.
Posted by: bananadream at July 28, 2018 08:23 PM (YR7aL)
I remember years ago, here in SoCal, KTLA Channel 5 would run theatrical movies in primetime, with "only TWO commercial interruptions!!"
(Of course, they didn't mention you could completely conceive, birth and raise a family of five during just one of those interruptions)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:23 PM (km8m2)
Enemy is mentioned in the movies seen this week section. I saw that this week too - twice. Very good.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 28, 2018 08:23 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 08:23 PM (1UZdv)
Heaven's Gate.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:21 PM (km8m2
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I'll never understand the reverence people give Cimino's first film, The Deer Hunter. To me, it's obviously the work of a filmmaker who barely understands narrative storytelling but accidentally made a pretty good movie.
The idea of giving that man a bunch of cash to make an epic was so obviously a bad idea that Heaven's Gate meet existence perplexes me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:23 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 28, 2018 08:23 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:23 PM (km8m2)
You can thank me later.
Posted by: JTB at July 28, 2018 08:24 PM (V+03K)
Heaven's Gate.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:21 PM (km8m2)
I thought it was "Ishtar".
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 28, 2018 08:24 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:19 PM (Jj43a)
Spielberg's big movies starting out were under the studios. I don't know much about the others but, as we've discussed before, Coppola's version of Apocalypse Now is a total piece of shit while the studio version is one of the best movies ever made.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:24 PM (ZVU3Y)
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I just learned that USA cancelled Colony!
The last episode of Season 3 was a cliffhanger of epic proportions.
I guess the ratings weren't good enough to justify what must be an expensive series to make. But I wonder if the Nielsens (do they still use that system?) count DVR'd viewings. I almost never watch shows live anymore.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:24 PM (gUCYC)
I'm now reading Gordon Prange's book "Miracle at Midway," and will watch corresponding movies, although I don't want to find out now how it turns out ... /kidding
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 28, 2018 08:25 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:23 PM (km8m2)
Yep. I was going to mention that, too.
You know, I remember when the selling point for cable was that we were paying for the service and channels so there wouldn't be any commercials ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:25 PM (ZVU3Y)
Posted by: Fritz at July 28, 2018 08:26 PM (wjHbC)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 08:26 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 28, 2018 08:26 PM (fxdyE)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:15 PM
Yeah, you're right. I think that because my expectations were so low, it didn't insult me as much as it should have. Bingo about the characters. Too many, no personalty or depth (in the 82 version there was 12... a lot, but, they were fleshed out with a minimum of dialogue)... and the ridiculous shoehorning of characters into the Norwegian story. It didn't work with the logic of the 82 version and a pathetic protaginist compared to Macready.
Posted by: otho at July 28, 2018 08:26 PM (LkFnL)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:19 PM (Jj43a)
Who's "Dee Palma", someone who films pornos because he tried to make his name like Brian DePalma only it didn't work out for him?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:27 PM (lYlRK)
The idea of giving that man a bunch of cash to make an epic was so obviously a bad idea that Heaven's Gate meet existence perplexes me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:23 PM (Jj43a)
And the first hour and a half of The Deer Hunter is as boring as one could imagine. The movie doesn't even really start until they get to Viet Nam.
That should have told the studio bigwigs something.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:27 PM (ZVU3Y)
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 08:28 PM (EzdLW)
Thunderbolt and Lightfoot.
AND, he made himself a good reputation because, according to legend, Clint Eastwood once asked Cimino, 'how many more weeks we have to shoot?'
Cimino replied, 'about three.'
Then Clint said "Well if we're not done in three days, you're up shit creek. I'm not sticking around."
So Cimino, again according to legend, managed to pack three weeks' of work into three days. AND when the movie came out, critics not only didn't notice, but they actually liked it.
So that all went straight to Cimino's head for his next "big serious" flick... which was, of course, The Deer Hunter.
There's also tons of great stuff in Final Cut about how he actually kidnapped the original negative and held it hostage from EMI Films and Universal, threatening to disappear with it all forever if he didn't get to release whatever edit he wanted.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:28 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:24 PM (gUCYC)
No!! Say it ain't so!!
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:28 PM (lYlRK)
It originated from observations by French film critics in the 50s based on what they observed was the most common denominator of good films. John Ford in particular was the model they used.
Just because Ford worked in the studio system doesn't mean that he wouldn't quality as auteur in the model.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:28 PM (Jj43a)
ahhAAhhhaaAAAhh!
Posted by: Fritz at July 28, 2018 08:26 PM (wjHbC)
Queen did some great movie songs. Like Highlander. And Brian May wrote and conducted the score for Road Warrior.
As an aside I am currently watching Beyond Thunderdome. Weird, and largely dumb, but well made. the high speed chase scenes are cinematic marvels, especially given the heavy use of CG in current movies.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 28, 2018 08:28 PM (EhZNT)
Auteur gave us Scorsese, Spielberg, Coppola, Truffaut, and Dee Palma.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:19 PM (Jj43a)
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Hey there! Thanks again for the opportunity to usurp your thread. :-)
I have to disagree with your assessment. The "auteur" thing is mostly a myth. Most auteur films are terrible. The ones that aren't were saved by studios stepping on the director - who never ceased bitching about it.
Coppola did The Godfather but Apocalypse Now almost killed its lead actor. I think SNL did a skit about Coppola being Kurz, hunkered down in the jungle wasting money.
The more control these guys get, the worse the product becomes. You can't compare Spielberg's current stuff with what he turned out under pressure back in the day.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:28 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 08:28 PM (e7oj4)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:29 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: HuuskerDu at July 28, 2018 08:29 PM (gYAkw)
Posted by: Blutarski at July 28, 2018 08:29 PM (+Tibp)
Posted by: Sam Darnold at July 28, 2018 08:30 PM (NlCk7)
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:30 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 08:31 PM (e7oj4)
The thing about TV these days is not only are the commercials not funny any more they are at times insulting.
So why watch the first run of any show when you can binge watch whole seasons with no commercials at a time that suits your schedule.
Posted by: Big V at July 28, 2018 08:32 PM (ZvLtE)
Literally only weeks after UA hired Cimino to start shooting HG, he was behaving like a screaming crazy drama queen. One of his tricks was to invite bigwigs to the set, let them order him to do whatever, and then file restraining orders against them two minutes after they left.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:32 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 28, 2018 08:32 PM (w7U7L)
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:30 PM (y87Qq)
I saw 10 minutes of that movie. I don't think you're being harsh enough in your criticism of it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:33 PM (ZVU3Y)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 08:31 PM (e7oj4)
I never got into The Cure, but good on 'im.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:33 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:28 PM (lYlRK)
I just learned about it today. I'm really bummed. An adult science fiction show.
Wanna hear my theory? I think the "aliens" are humans from the future. Think about it - they haven't stolen many resources, but they have collected great works of art and are rounding up healthy humans.
I think they are weak from genetic tampering or disease and need older, healthier, uncorrupted samples.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:33 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 08:31 PM (e7oj4)
A: who the fuck is Rob Smith?
B: Does he identify as Tobias Funke?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 28, 2018 08:34 PM (EhZNT)
"IS THERE ANYONE IN ROME WHO HAS NOT SLEPT WITH MY DAUGHTER?"
Posted by: HuuskerDu at July 28, 2018 08:34 PM (gYAkw)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 28, 2018 08:35 PM (Evws/)
That should have told the studio bigwigs something.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:27 PM (ZVU3Y)
Although I always cry with George Dundenza (sp?)as he's making the French toast.
Posted by: Gem at July 28, 2018 08:35 PM (XoAz8)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:33 PM (gUCYC)
Goo-backs?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (EhZNT)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (1UZdv)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (e7oj4)
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (H5knJ)
That should have told the studio bigwigs something.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 28, 2018 08:27 PM
So, so boring. The stuff in VN is all it's got. DeNiro and Streep trying to out-angst each other for the rest.
Posted by: otho at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (LkFnL)
Posted by: Eromero at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (zLDYs)
The last episode of Season 3 was a cliffhanger of epic proportions.
I guess the ratings weren't good enough to justify what must be an expensive series to make. But I wonder if the Nielsens (do they still use that system?) count DVR'd viewings. I almost never watch shows live anymore.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:24 PM (gUCYC)
That sucks with shows these days are cliffhangers. Maybe Netflix or Amazon or somebody will pick it up to finish the story. I'll still watch it.
But all stories should have a beginning and an end. 12 Monkeys theme.
I swear most fun watching a show or movie I've had since I was a child. No degeneracy. No gratuitous sex. Good characters are good and bad ars bad. Honor, duty, brotherhood, righteousness, and love are themes. Oh, best ending since Breaking Bad. The last season was a dusty time period in my living room. Each season ends well. It has everything, literally everything. You will not believe it's a SYFY production.
SYFY Sid something cool with the last season because the writers wanted a great ensding. Over 4 weeks they aired 3 episodes a week for 3 weeks and the 4th week a 90 minute finale, which made my living room very dusty again.
I've been talking about it to my parents, siblings, and friends about it telling them to dig in now. I warn them about the dust
Enjoy the show when you can.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (fxdyE)
Posted by: Grunp928(c) at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (1UZdv
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Ahistorical...
*Rolls eyes.*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 28, 2018 08:37 PM (Evws/)
"IS THERE ANYONE IN ROME WHO HAS NOT SLEPT WITH MY DAUGHTER?"
Posted by: HuuskerDu at July 28, 2018 08:34 PM (gYAkw)
Mmmmmmmm........No.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 28, 2018 08:37 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 08:37 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 08:38 PM (e7oj4)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 08:38 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: Grunp928(c) at July 28, 2018 08:38 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:38 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (1UZdv)
It gave Ken Watanabe a role in Batman Begins. Which begat his most famous line in Godzilla! "Let them fight!"
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 08:38 PM (oFsfu)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:24 PM (gUCYC)
No!! Say it ain't so!!
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 08:28 PM (lYlRK)
Sounds like Amazon or Netflix will be picking this one up to end it, just like Netflix did with The Killing.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 28, 2018 08:38 PM (fxdyE)
"IS THERE ANYONE IN ROME WHO HAS NOT SLEPT WITH MY DAUGHTER?"
Posted by: HuuskerDu
I have I, Claudius ...on VHS. I no longer own a VHS machine.
Posted by: Blutarski at July 28, 2018 08:39 PM (+Tibp)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 08:38 PM (pHfeF)
Di di mau!
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 08:39 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 08:39 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 28, 2018 08:39 PM (ZYcR0)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 08:40 PM (e7oj4)
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 28, 2018 08:38 PM (fxdyE)
Bore. Ring.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 08:40 PM (NWiLs)
My vote for worst of all time goes to The Last Samurai, a Tom Cruise
vanity pic which is completely ahistorical and asinine, despite quality
production values.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (1UZdv)
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Hear! Hear!
I despised that movie. Not only does it just make shit up and dress it as history, it takes the side of the feudal elite against peasants who'd like to escape perpetual serfdom.
Oooh, but Samurai make pretty pictures, so they should be supported by a slave economy.
One of the most reactionary movies ever made in Hollywood.
Also stupid.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:41 PM (cfSRQ)
I would acquire a VHS if only to watch 'I, Claudius'.
Must be one sitting on a back shelf in a pawn shop somewhere.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 08:41 PM (yQI1v)
Clint is the man.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 08:42 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (1UZdv
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Ahistorical...
*Rolls eyes.*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (Jj43a)
I love the Last Samurai, Tom Cruise notwithstanding. Ken Watanabe is a wonderful actor. Forget Cruise. It's a powerful story. The boy who lived in the house where Cruise's character stayed was an amazing young actor.
Shit. Damn good movie.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 28, 2018 08:42 PM (EhZNT)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd
Also, the Japanese of the day would never have hired a backward American as a military adviser. Brit, German or bust.
Posted by: Blutarski at July 28, 2018 08:42 PM (+Tibp)
Must be one sitting on a back shelf in a pawn shop somewhere.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 08:41 PM (yQI1v)
Just make sure it's not Beta (Cowboy Bebop reference)
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 08:42 PM (oFsfu)
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 28, 2018 08:43 PM (H5knJ)
I absolutely love Flash Gordon, but I didn't know about the US- Europe allegory. Thanks!
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 28, 2018 08:43 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 08:43 PM (1UZdv)
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 28, 2018 08:43 PM (H5knJ)
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All narrative is propaganda.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:43 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 08:44 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 08:44 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 08:44 PM (rnAwa)
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Dances With Wolves, but actually pretty good.
I do not like Dances With Wolves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:45 PM (Jj43a)
Poll: Trump Is Losing Hillary Haters, And That Could Cost Republicans
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 28, 2018 08:45 PM (+y/Ru)
I have to admit, a movie about him could be interesting.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:45 PM (km8m2)
Must be one sitting on a back shelf in a pawn shop somewhere.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 08:41 PM (yQI1v)
Just make sure it's not Beta (Cowboy Bebop reference)
--Me, Claudius:
https://youtu.be/RSOu5C55kUA
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 08:45 PM (e7oj4)
Must be one sitting on a back shelf in a pawn shop somewhere.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 08:41 PM
Available on DVD as a box set. Worth it. The downside of the dvd's is that they don't have the episodes self contained as broadcast, like the vhs versions (no credits/title opener for every episode) and just splice all of them together in a sort of "movie" format.
Posted by: otho at July 28, 2018 08:45 PM (LkFnL)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 28, 2018 08:39 PM (ZYcR0)
- Takamori (the guy Katsumoto was based on) didn't reject firearms, samurai had been using them cheerfully ever since the Portuguese started selling them
- Ahlgren was American, should have been French or Prussian
...that's about all that comes to mind right away. I didn't think it was all that bad, by itself or for historicity. I mean, the emperor really did bring in Western advisors and there really was a Satsuma rebellion that ended the samurai as a caste.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:45 PM (y87Qq)
Right? No way Cruise is taller than all those Nips.
Posted by: pep at July 28, 2018 08:46 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 08:44 PM (rnAwa)
Oh that's why Michael Dudikoff never got nominated.
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 08:46 PM (oFsfu)
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 08:10 PM (oFsfu),
Did my lord mention balls?
Posted by: Paris at July 28, 2018 08:46 PM (XoAz8)
You know, because REAL AMERICANS are all about keeping the little guy down and supporting the aristocracy.
What a piece of trash. I cursed most of the way through it.
You want a good Japanese movie? Try something by Kurosawa. Ran is excellent.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:46 PM (cfSRQ)
Why would Magnum ever need to leave the compound? TC and Rick are cutie pies, but there's no there there.
Posted by: Fritz at July 28, 2018 08:46 PM (wjHbC)
Posted by: pep at July 28, 2018 08:46 PM (T6t7i)
Like end to end, or...?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 08:46 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 08:47 PM (pHfeF)
I have to admit, a movie about him could be interesting.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:45 PM
Starring Christopher Knight!
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 08:47 PM (EzdLW)
Flash was on Comet recently
It's on there tomorrow. They are showing the old series released as full length features AND this version as well.
https://www.comettv.com/schedule/?date=jul+29
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 28, 2018 08:47 PM (IqV8l)
You want a good Japanese movie? Try something by Kurosawa. Ran is excellent.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:46 PM (cfSRQ)
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Ikiru is better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:47 PM (Jj43a)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjIDrWn0DQ4
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 28, 2018 08:47 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:47 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 08:43 PM (1UZdv)
Are you sure we watched the same movie?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:47 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 28, 2018 08:48 PM (ZYcR0)
Gibson claimed to have done historical research for the film --- must have all been done looking through the bottoms of empty scotch bottles.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 08:48 PM (yQI1v)
Posted by: ro-man at July 28, 2018 08:48 PM (RuIsu)
...that's about all that comes to mind right away. I didn't think it was all that bad, by itself or for historicity. I mean, the emperor really did bring in Western advisors and there really was a Satsuma rebellion that ended the samurai as a caste.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:45 PM (y87Qq)
I read a fun shoujo manga about this time period. Kaze Hikaru.
Posted by: Paris at July 28, 2018 08:48 PM (XoAz8)
Posted by: trev006 at July 28, 2018 08:49 PM (3Tn95)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:46 PM
Yes. Big reason why it sucks.
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 08:49 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 08:49 PM (1UZdv)
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 28, 2018 08:49 PM (H5knJ)
Gibson claimed to have done historical research for the film --- must have all been done looking through the bottoms of empty scotch bottles.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 08:48 PM (yQI1v)
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"Where's the bridge?"
"It got in the way."
"That's what the British thought."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:49 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: Gem at July 28, 2018 08:49 PM (XoAz8)
In a nutshell, the system was a feudalistic society run by the warrior class, but then Godzilla came along and flattened them all. The survivors developed a new economy based on tentacles.
Posted by: pep at July 28, 2018 08:49 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 08:50 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: f'd at July 28, 2018 08:50 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 08:49 PM (1UZdv
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That's what I thought about Blood Diamond.
Cut out Leo. Concentrate on Djimon Huonsou.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:51 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 28, 2018 08:51 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: pep at July 28, 2018 08:49 PM (T6t7i)
Raymond Burr invented it.
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 08:51 PM (oFsfu)
Since 2015, a new Flash Gordon film has been in the works.[43] 20th Century Fox hired JD Payne and Patrick McKay as screenwriters, while Matthew Vaughn was in talks to direct.[44] On 15 January 2016, Mark Protosevich was hired to rewrite the film's script.[45]
Can't find anything recent. I'm assuming it has stalled, which is probably a good thing.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 28, 2018 08:51 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: pep at July 28, 2018 08:49 PM (T6t7i)
Raymond Burr invented it.
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 28, 2018 08:51 PM (oFsfu
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Fake news.
Burr wasn't there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:52 PM (Jj43a)
It's. Just. A. Movie.
Imonna watch some MST now. Diabolik, I think.
Night, Horde.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 28, 2018 08:52 PM (EhZNT)
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 28, 2018 08:52 PM (H5knJ)
Braveheart ahistorical in SOME respects. Except for the historical names
of the characters it has absolutely NO value as 'history'. Don't get me
started on specifics --- a Great Wall of Text would ensue.
Gibson claimed to have done historical research for the film ---
must have all been done looking through the bottoms of empty scotch
bottles.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 08:48 PM (yQI1v)
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As my surname would suggest, my ancestors were Welsh. So when I watch Braveheart, I always root for the English. When the archers mow down the Scots, those are MY people kicking ass and taking names.
Left to their own devices, the Scots would still be living in caves and burning shit for warmth. Also - to quote Evelyn Waugh - they'd be eating porridge with their fingers.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:52 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 28, 2018 08:53 PM (ZYcR0)
Posted by: Eromero at July 28, 2018 08:36 PM (zLDYs)
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That was a cheezerific series of books. I will see "Meg" because I am compelled to.
Know what novel-into-film I'm waiting for? "Fragment", about a tiny isolated island in the Pacific that has a remnant population of critters from half a billion years ago who have evolved into hyper-violent nightmares.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:53 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 28, 2018 08:51 PM (+y/Ru)
He's also in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. Equally unrecognizable.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 08:53 PM (NWiLs)
It's. Just. A. Movie.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 28, 2018 08:52 PM (EhZNT)
Should I repeat that to myself?
Really just relax, maybe?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:53 PM (y87Qq)
I have to admit, a movie about him could be interesting.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:45 PM (km8m2)
It's been done
https://tinyurl.com/y8byqw5x
Posted by: josephistan at July 28, 2018 08:54 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: SJW at July 28, 2018 08:54 PM (QQ7V7)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 08:43 PM (1UZdv)
Point of order: Cruise loses the battle, as do the samurai he rides with. It is the hopeless sacrifice of the samurai that he brings in a tale to the Emperor, and merely handing over Katsumoto's sword is the impetus for the plot's final resolution.
There is grim hilarity to the idea this moment caused tremendous anguish for all non-Japanese during WWII, but then that is not why I rented the DVD.
Posted by: trev006 at July 28, 2018 08:54 PM (3Tn95)
It's. Just. A. Movie.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 28, 2018 08:52 PM (EhZNT)
Should I repeat that to myself?
Really just relax, maybe?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:53 PM (y87Qq
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Relax?
Must I now kill the Malaysian prime minister?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:54 PM (Jj43a)
It's. Just. A. Movie.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Large and in Charge at July 28, 2018 08:52 PM (EhZNT)
Should I repeat that to myself?
Really just relax, maybe?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:53 PM (y87Qq
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Relax?
Must I now kill the Malaysian prime minister?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:54 PM (Jj43a)
Don't do it!
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 08:55 PM (NWiLs)
Dance off!
Posted by: otho at July 28, 2018 08:55 PM (LkFnL)
Posted by: Mutnodjmet at July 28, 2018 08:55 PM (sPJyv)
A young starcrossed 1980s couple ends before it gets a chance to take off, because the girl's abusive dad knocks her down the stairs. She's brain dead for awhile and, in fact, deprived of oxygen for awhile when her lovelorn suitor gets to her.
The boy in question is a robotics nerd, and had been building a self-teaching robot. That robot gets shot by another mutual neighbour.
The nerd puts the microchip from the one into the necrotic brain of the other, and... well... creates a monster. It/she knows they love the nerd. It/she also hates being undead, and is out for revenge from the two people who killed it and her two halves. It/she doesn't know much else, but is learning.
Very tragic as well as horrific. This is what I wanted from Murphy's arc in Robocop 1-2 but didn't get because @#$% Verhoeven.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 28, 2018 08:55 PM (N1ZXu)
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 28, 2018 08:56 PM (H5knJ)
Relax?
Must I now kill the Malaysian prime minister?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:54 PM (Jj43a)
Don't do it!
Posted by: Insomniac at July 28, 2018 08:55 PM (NWiLs)
*takes notes*
Posted by: Frankie at July 28, 2018 08:56 PM (EhZNT)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 08:56 PM (km8m2)
I'm 100% Irish. I root against, except when the Germans get involved.
Speaking of which, don't you think Putin still bears a grudge, and is plotting for the day that the Germans are energy dependent, so that he can turn off the gas spigot and leave them to freeze in the dark?
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 08:57 PM (1UZdv)
Splat.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 28, 2018 08:57 PM (N1ZXu)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:47 PM (Jj43a)
I read that as Candiru.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:57 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 08:57 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: trev006 at July 28, 2018 08:54 PM (3Tn95)
Yes, this. Cruise is along for the ride. The story is told through his eyes, but he's utterly powerless to change or save anything. He is an observer to history (altered, but recognizable). And the title has absolutely nothing to do with him.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:57 PM (y87Qq)
I know some whisky drinking Scots who would want a piece of your ass for saying that. But I just gave them more whisky and they forgot about you.
Posted by: Fritz at July 28, 2018 08:58 PM (wjHbC)
True Grit. The Manchurian Candidate. The Force Awakens, if you want to
get snarky... all remade movies with the potential for greatness, that
end up falling flat on their face. Special effects carry movies further
than ever, but the deeper themes and characters have gone to shit. Which
is why even obviously dumb movies like Flash Gordon will still be
influential and compelling long after The Last Jedi has faded into
oblivion.
Posted by: trev006 at July 28, 2018 08:49 PM (3Tn95)
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Hey, Flash Gordon isn't "obviously dumb." I know reading the post is optional around here, but I think I made a strong case that there's a lot going on beneath the surface.
The big difference between 1980 and today is that special effects back then could only go so far. Spaceships and explosions still needed something to give them meaning. Movies today are little more than CGI demo reels.
Look, if you think Flash Gordon is terrible, fine. You can at least enjoy the spectacle of some truly gifted actors slumming it while chewing on the scenery. Max von Sydow is having a great time. Brian Blessed is a hoot. Everyone is having a great time, and that counts for a lot.
That's why I think this movie doesn't get the love it deserves. The actors may have been phoning it in, but they were still damn good at what they did. Actors today, not so much.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:58 PM (cfSRQ)
But I liked your post. Your explication was good.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 28, 2018 08:58 PM (EZebt)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:47 PM
Beautiful film.
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 08:57 PM (EzdLW)
Definitely the feel-good romantic comedy of the summer.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 08:58 PM (y87Qq)
William Wallace never wore a kilt.
Posted by: Grunp928(c) at July 28, 2018 08:59 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:47 PM
Beautiful film.
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 08:57 PM (EzdLW
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With a bonus discussion of the film's meaning as the last half hour or so.
Truly is beautiful.
I took a couple of classes with Stephen Prince, a Kurosawa scholar, in college, and his favorite was Red Beard, also great stuff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 08:59 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: Ignoramus
Done in by gas?
What a thing to happen to Germany.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 08:59 PM (pwT9v)
Posted by: josephistan at July 28, 2018 08:59 PM (Izzlo)
I'll tell you what the Scots actually did when the Bruce family got independence. They slaughtered a lot of Irish.
t.co/vPzHbK9iGv
Edward the Bruce is in Hell thanking whatever gods will hear him for Oliver Cromwell, because thanks to Oliver the Irish don't remember to curse him.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 28, 2018 09:00 PM (N1ZXu)
Let me refer you to a series of books by Sharon Kay Penman. "Here Be Dragons", "Falls the Shadow", and "The Reckoning".
Yes, they're historical 'novels', but the history is not merely good - it's great. You'll come away with a loathing for British that approaches the Scot's and Irish views.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 09:00 PM (yQI1v)
Great flick featuring Jon Voight and Rebecca DeMornay. Criminally overlooked.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 09:00 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: naturalfake at July 28, 2018 09:01 PM (sil09)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 28, 2018 08:51 PM (+y/Ru)
A very fun unique movie.Kevin Spacey ruined it for the obvious reasons, he ruins everything now.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 28, 2018 09:02 PM (fxdyE)
The big difference between 1980 and today is that special effects back then could only go so far. Spaceships and explosions still needed something to give them meaning. Movies today are little more than CGI demo reels.
Look, if you think Flash Gordon is terrible, fine. You can at least enjoy the spectacle of some truly gifted actors slumming it while chewing on the scenery. Max von Sydow is having a great time. Brian Blessed is a hoot. Everyone is having a great time, and that counts for a lot.
That's why I think this movie doesn't get the love it deserves. The actors may have been phoning it in, but they were still damn good at what they did. Actors today, not so much.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:58 PM
I showed it to a mid 30's film buff who wasn't even born when it was released. I warned him that you'll either love it or hate it. It's cheeztastic 80's fun. He was stunned and declared it the best thing ever. Flash Gordon is a gem.
Posted by: otho at July 28, 2018 09:02 PM (LkFnL)
I think they are weak from genetic tampering or disease and need older, healthier, uncorrupted samples.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:33 PM (gUCYC)
Hmmmm... Sounds plausible. Only now we'll never know.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 09:02 PM (lYlRK)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 28, 2018 09:03 PM (N1ZXu)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 09:03 PM (1UZdv)
I liked it, for what that's worth. The sunshower/kitsune bit, the one with the yuki-onna in the blizzard, and the veteran meeting his troops outside the tunnel in particular are the ones that stick in my mind - it's been a long time since I've seen it. If anyone ever sees the knife his mother gives him in the sunshower vignette, pick one up for me, I'll get you back.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 09:03 PM (y87Qq)
Here's Grace Randolph. She is utterly stunned and I agree with her. Warning - this ain't your daddy's Muppets.
https://binged.it/2OqoTU0
Posted by: Gem at July 28, 2018 09:04 PM (XoAz8)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 28, 2018 08:55
The book was actually a lot better. Tragic, but a great story.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 28, 2018 09:04 PM (Q+wbH)
Lloyd --- Welsh rooting for Sassenachs???
Let me refer you to a series of books by Sharon Kay Penman. "Here Be Dragons", "Falls the Shadow", and "The Reckoning".
Yes, they're historical 'novels', but the history is not merely good
- it's great. You'll come away with a loathing for British that
approaches the Scot's and Irish views.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 09:00 PM (yQI1v)
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Need I remind you that the Scots would utterly enslave the UK to the EU in perpetuity. Hell, those dress-wearers are more PC than California.
Do you know how made Brexit happen? Who turned the tide?
The Welsh.
You're welcome.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 09:04 PM (cfSRQ)
Done in by gas?
What a thing to happen to Germany.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable
But this time by a lack of it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 28, 2018 09:04 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: qdpsteve
More like Rebecca DeHornay
Posted by: Wayne Campbell at July 28, 2018 09:05 PM (pwT9v)
Posted by: hogmartin
I liked the soldier that was haunted by the ghosts of his old company. They didn't know they were dead and seemed really disappointed when they found it.
Posted by: Blutarski at July 28, 2018 09:06 PM (+Tibp)
That's why I think this movie doesn't get the love it deserves. The actors may have been phoning it in, but they were still damn good at what they did. Actors today, not so much.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 08:58 PM (cfSRQ)
I'm sorry, let me explain. When I said "obvious," I mean on the superficial level that most people enjoy it for, as opposed to saying "only an idiot could like this movie." I personally like the acting, and take just as much pleasure in their enjoyment as you do. Your case is convincing- so much so that I am planning a rewatch- but Flash Gordon is not explicitly message fiction in the way that The Last Jedi declares "Girls rule boys drool, now buy tickets YOU BRAINDEAD SHEEP."
Posted by: trev006 at July 28, 2018 09:06 PM (3Tn95)
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 09:00 PM (yQI1v)
Pargeter's The Brothers of Gwynedd did that for me.
Posted by: Gem at July 28, 2018 09:07 PM (XoAz8)
I think they are weak from genetic tampering or disease and need older, healthier, uncorrupted samples.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 08:33 PM (gUCYC)
Hmmmm... Sounds plausible. Only now we'll never know.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 28, 2018 09:02 PM (lYlRK)
Colony is a dystopian documentary.
Posted by: The Habsburgs at July 28, 2018 09:07 PM (fxdyE)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 09:07 PM (1UZdv)
AH Lloyd, I think the only actor who acted like he didn't want to be in
that movie was Dalton. The others adlibbed most of their performances,
on account of an Italian director who couldn't communicate or (much)
figure out what was going on with his own cast. And then Queen saw how
camp and silly it all was and just ran with it for their soundtrack.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 28, 2018 09:03 PM (N1ZXu)
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(In Brian Blessed voice):RUBBISH!
Yes, that's in the movie as well.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 09:08 PM (cfSRQ)
Here's Grace Randolph. She is utterly stunned and I agree with her. Warning - this ain't your daddy's Muppets.
https://binged.it/2OqoTU0
Posted by: Gem at July 28, 2018 09:04 PM (XoAz
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Still watching teh video, but my first thought was the Angel episode "Smile Time".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:08 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 09:09 PM (pwT9v)
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 09:10 PM (EzdLW)
mean on the superficial level that most people enjoy it for, as opposed
to saying "only an idiot could like this movie." I personally like the
acting, and take just as much pleasure in their enjoyment as you do.
Your case is convincing- so much so that I am planning a rewatch- but
Flash Gordon is not explicitly message fiction in the way that The Last
Jedi declares "Girls rule boys drool, now buy tickets YOU BRAINDEAD
SHEEP."
Posted by: trev006 at July 28, 2018 09:06 PM (3Tn95)
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Well, yes. Flash Gordon doesn't insult the audience. Which seems to be a thing these days.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 09:10 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 09:12 PM (PUmDY)
That trailer for Happytime Murders is pure cringe. How the hell.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 28, 2018 09:12 PM (N1ZXu)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:12 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: Hands
Also: Henry Morgan, the House of Tudor, and close-harmony singing.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 09:12 PM (pwT9v)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 09:14 PM (PUmDY)
And 1970s rugby teams
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 09:14 PM (1UZdv)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 09:12 PM (PUmDY)
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"Wait Until Dark"? Terrific flick!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:14 PM (gUCYC)
Do you know how made Brexit happen? Who turned the tide?
The Welsh.
You're welcome.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 09:04 PM (cfSRQ)
I am filled with shame at my ancestral country. Our family motto should now be changed from "Hold Fast" to "Hold My Soy Latte While I Orally Pleasure Claude Juncker."
Shaaaaame.
My husband has the Welsh blood.
Posted by: Gem at July 28, 2018 09:14 PM (XoAz8)
i am most NOT ready for action
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 28, 2018 09:14 PM (N1ZXu)
Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2018 09:15 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: Tonypete at July 28, 2018 09:15 PM (VAx8t)
Read up on 'the clearances' aka 'the Scottish Expulsions'. My forebearers in North America were all (both sides of family) summarily dumped ashore in 'Nova Scotia'. There's a reason why the backbone of the Revolutiionay Army were Scot's.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 09:16 PM (yQI1v)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 09:09 PM (pwT9v)
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I don't speak Cymric, but I know enough to recognize that as garbage. You know why?
Too many vowels.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 09:16 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:14 PM (gUCYC)
Agree. Richard Crenna so good.
Posted by: Gem at July 28, 2018 09:17 PM (XoAz8)
Just FYI, I sent you an email. Someone wants to share your post and wanted your permission.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 09:17 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 09:10 PM (cfSRQ)
Jesus, even the difference between Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom. The former was hardly genius in the eay of the original, but it was fun, coherent, and something everyone could enjoy. Fallen Kingdom may as well have put the paleo-veterinarian in a Hillary 2016 T-shirt, which would be forgivable except for the fact she's a grotesque retard who should have been tortured to death five times over by the Trump-voting pale male mercenaries she keeps mindlessly antagonizing.
I can handle some assumed idiocy in Jurassic Park movies, a beautiful park where everything operates perfectly forever is -less- exciting, though still goddamn awesome. If your plot is only possible when everyone acts like a bellend? Yeah, call me when Cunty McSmartgirl is eaten feet first by an Indoraptor and I might contemplate handing over 9 dollars.
Posted by: trev006 at July 28, 2018 09:18 PM (3Tn95)
https://youtu.be/dNZyf6ufaMw
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 09:18 PM (pHfeF)
Ted 2
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 28, 2018 09:20 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:20 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 09:20 PM (PUmDY)
Bradley Cooper plays the aging country singer helping/falling in love with a struggling artist played by Stefani Germanotta. Who is basically playing herself in the movie rather than who she has been the last 12 years (Lady Gaga) .
Look up the trailer. You won't be disappointed. There will be Oscars I think.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 28, 2018 09:20 PM (FFJtw)
Lloyd --- Hell, modern day 'Scots' ain't. They are all descendants of
English imported to replace native Scot's who were 'expelled' to the New
World when they proved themselves less complianr with their Sassenach
overlords than the English and sheep.
Read up on 'the clearances' aka 'the Scottish Expulsions'. My
forebearers in North America were all (both sides of family) summarily
dumped ashore in 'Nova Scotia'. There's a reason why the backbone of the
Revolutiionay Army were Scot's.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 09:16 PM (yQI1v)
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I call B.S. on this.
The Scots fought like lions in both the world wars. Then Labour turned them into a bunch of dependent pussies.
The Welsh also get a ton of welfare, but they still managed to keep their self-respect. Scotland got something close to 'home rule' and they used it to go all-in on PC crap.
And now they're imposing "booze control" to keep themselves from getting blitzed all the time.
Sad.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 09:20 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 09:20 PM (e7oj4)
Too many vowels.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd
Drink a pint of whole milk, then try saying it*. You'll find it complies with Welsh Linguistic rules.
*Put saran wrap over your monster first
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 09:21 PM (pwT9v)
Fuckin autocorrect
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 09:21 PM (pwT9v)
Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2018 09:22 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 09:22 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:22 PM (gUCYC)
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The unpublished Sherlock Holmes short story.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:20 PM
Heh.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 28, 2018 09:22 PM (Q+wbH)
Agreed, could be the big flick of the year.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 09:23 PM (1UZdv)
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 28, 2018 09:23 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 09:21 PM (pwT9v)
Heh.
Just heh.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Really Here at July 28, 2018 09:23 PM (EhZNT)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 09:23 PM (e7oj4)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 09:23 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 09:23 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 09:25 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2018 09:26 PM (NLLmE)
Look up the trailer. You won't be disappointed. There will be Oscars I think.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 28, 2018 09:20 PM (FFJtw)
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I have seen/heard Lady Gaga doing duets with Tony Bennett. I'm guessing there will be Grammies involved as well. She really does have an amazing voice.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 28, 2018 09:26 PM (I16G8)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 09:26 PM (km8m2)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 09:26 PM (pwT9v)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 28, 2018 09:27 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 09:27 PM (1UZdv)
Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2018 09:27 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 28, 2018 09:26 PM (I16G
--Feh
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 09:27 PM (e7oj4)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:27 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 09:27 PM (1UZdv)
Can you believe Kirk Douglas is still kicking?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 28, 2018 09:27 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2018 09:27 PM (WkMnJ)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:28 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 09:26 PM (km8m2)
The only talk show guy I can stand.
Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2018 09:28 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 09:28 PM (EzdLW)
Can you believe Kirk Douglas is still kicking?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp
I wonder how much kicking he does now days?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 28, 2018 09:28 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:27 PM (gUCYC)
You just made the list
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 28, 2018 09:28 PM (2DOZq)
Look up the trailer. You won't be disappointed. There will be Oscars I think.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 28, 2018 09:20 PM (FFJtw
Definitely intrigued. Her diva schtick is weird, but I also think it's partly to keep herself grounded in a way, not unlike Alice Cooper. Like Alice, she may purposely compartmentalize things to remain sane.
And I have heard her sing real songs. She has a beautiful voice.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Really Here at July 28, 2018 09:28 PM (EhZNT)
Yep, the 'Scottish Regiments' fought hard - as did the Irish (even while the Easter Rebellion was on-going) and the Welsh.
I'm not down-playing the Welsh, merely questioning the fierce loyalty to the Sassenach.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 09:29 PM (yQI1v)
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 09:29 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 09:26 PM (pwT9v)
David Hume and Adam Smith died? Sad, if true.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 28, 2018 09:29 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Little Lupe at July 28, 2018 09:29 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: rickl at July 28, 2018 09:29 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 28, 2018 09:30 PM (jdwUz)
Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2018 09:31 PM (NLLmE)
"Otherwise I would be working a sheep
Haw haw haw!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:31 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 09:31 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 09:23 PM
A real fight? Because Bongino looks like he could serioulsy kick lots of ass. I'd pay to see that.
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 09:31 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:31 PM (gUCYC)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:08 PM (gUCYC)
Love that episode. Season Five was great. I was sad it was canceled at the time, but now I really like where it ended.
Posted by: Gem at July 28, 2018 09:32 PM (XoAz8)
Posted by: Little Lupe
You'll love The Chekist, full frontal nudity and lots of counterrevolutionaries getting shot.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 09:32 PM (pwT9v)
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 28, 2018 09:32 PM (2DOZq)
Lloyd .... (all smiles here - no anger) try reading up on The
Clearances' and you'll learn it's not BS. Also read a history of Nova
Scotia, then read about the make-up of the Revolutionary Army.
Yep, the 'Scottish Regiments' fought hard - as did the Irish (even while the Easter Rebellion was on-going) and the Welsh.
I'm not down-playing the Welsh, merely questioning the fierce loyalty to the Sassenach.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 09:29 PM (yQI1v)
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The English are the least worst of the alternatives.
I've a fair amount of Scottish blood, but they've pretty much abased themselves to their preferred Franco-German overlords. Sad to see.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 09:32 PM (cfSRQ)
I was on vacay so had peee-lenty of time to watch flicks during the flights.
"Pacific Rim: Uprising" - Big, dumb, loud and violent. Just what you want in a Kaiju movie. Tho not exactly a kanji movie. A bit too talking at first but soon the BDLV kicks in and it's a lot of fun. You won't be bored. Don't miss Charley Day's one chance to play a villain!!!
"Hostiles" - Alllllllmost a great movie as it seems balanced at first, but then comes the backend loading of eeeeeeevil white men. And a character change that's not earned. Goodish but not great.
Christian Bale is excellent.
"I, Tonya" - great deal of fun. Excellent funny Rashomon-ish I-am-what-I-am take on Tonya Harding. Go see now.
"Red Sparrow" - don't get the hate for this one. It's great. A hard edged look at the reality of honey trap spying. TheState owns our heroine's body. She tries to hold on to her mind and soul.
Nicely done. Too bad the box office guarantees no sequel.
"The Third Murder" - one of my favorite Japanese director's Hirokusa Koreeda's big flop. Not a very good movie, It's mostly broken by an unearned character change. Great acting. Great directing. Lousy script. Too bad.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 28, 2018 09:33 PM (9q7Dl)
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 09:33 PM (yQI1v)
Posted by: Little Lupe at July 28, 2018 09:33 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 28, 2018 09:28 PM (gUCYC)
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[ s] , [ /s] ........... remove the spaces.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 28, 2018 09:33 PM (I16G8)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 09:34 PM (e7oj4)
Good night all
Posted by: Skip at July 28, 2018 09:36 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd
The Irish are worse. 700 years they bitched and fought because they hated being ruled from a foreign capitol. So they finally get their independence and they join the EU so they can be ruled by a foreign capitol. I guess that whole "sovereign nation" thing was harder than they thought.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 09:36 PM (pwT9v)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 09:36 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 09:31 PM (EzdLW)
--Former Secret Service.
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 09:37 PM (e7oj4)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 09:37 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 09:38 PM (e7oj4)
I hope you all liked my post and the debate that followed. I'm indebted to TheJames Madison and of course the Horde as a whole.
Have a great night and maybe I'll see some of you on the book thread tomorrow.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 09:38 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 28, 2018 09:38 PM (IqV8l)
Re: Bexit - my Scot contacts are at least as upset as you (and I). The rural Scots have the same problem upstate New Yorkers and the geographical 90% of Nevadans. Their votes are negligible when bounced off the wall of Edinburgh (NYC, Vegas).They curse the 'English imports' quite thoroughly.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 09:40 PM (yQI1v)
And I want to know which dog just farted, damn it!
Posted by: Farmer at July 28, 2018 09:41 PM (yJ1e6)
He clearly knew NOTHING about economics.
Posted by: JAS at July 28, 2018 09:42 PM (3HNOQ)
I hope you all liked my post and the debate that followed. I'm indebted to TheJames Madison and of course the Horde as a whole.
Have a great night and maybe I'll see some of you on the book thread tomorrow.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 28, 2018 09:38 PM
Thank you, A.H.! I'm sure Teh James appreciated it, as well.
Posted by: Gem at July 28, 2018 09:43 PM (XoAz8)
In living memory we fought our own Civil War over not pledging allegiance to Queen and Crown.
We finally went free market in the 1980s and haven't looked back. We'll be the last part of the Isles left after the coming crash of the British part. The North will be welcome to join us when they finally wake up
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 09:43 PM (1UZdv)
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 28, 2018 09:44 PM (yQI1v)
Posted by: ALH at July 28, 2018 09:44 PM (8kkL4)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 28, 2018 09:45 PM (89T5c)
Although Brian Blessed is in the first one, only.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 28, 2018 09:45 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Hands at July 28, 2018 09:10 PM (EzdLW)
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Wow. This means that we owe two-thirds of the main cast of Zorro to the Welsh.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 28, 2018 09:46 PM (CSNuj)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNuk_boPD8Q
Flesh Gordon
I think there was boobs.
hehe
Posted by: sally at July 28, 2018 09:47 PM (sBDDH)
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 28, 2018 09:47 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Ignoramus
Not if you keep bringing in all those "refugees", unless you want to change the name to al Erinistan.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 09:48 PM (pwT9v)
I played the heck out of the Flash Gordon pinball machine. I could put one quarter in it and still be playing it hours later on that same quarter.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 28, 2018 09:48 PM (w+Jhj)
Martha, my ass.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 28, 2018 09:49 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 28, 2018 09:48 PM (w+Jhj)
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I bet they love you at the Chinese buffet.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 28, 2018 09:49 PM (CSNuj)
I don't think so.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 28, 2018 09:50 PM (CqhDV)
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 28, 2018 09:47 PM (2DOZq)
Quigley is also one of my favorite westerns
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 28, 2018 09:50 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 09:50 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 09:51 PM (e7oj4)
Quigley is also one of my favorite westerns
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
It's Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out West.
And South.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 28, 2018 09:51 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 28, 2018 09:47 PM (2DOZq)
Quigley is also one of my favorite westerns
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 28, 2018 09:50 PM (xJa6I)
--Also awesome: The Proposition
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 09:52 PM (e7oj4)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 09:50 PM (PUmDY)
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Downton Abbey. Wifey ate that one up.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 28, 2018 09:52 PM (CSNuj)
Posted by: Cicero"
They see me walk in to get takeout and they start getting the containers out in the number I usually get. No joke.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 28, 2018 09:53 PM (w+Jhj)
Posted by: Blutarski at July 28, 2018 09:53 PM (+Tibp)
At the height of the real estate bubble someone built a hotel in Roscommon, Ireland, the least touristy place on the island, which failed. You couldn't run it profitably in good times. It's now being used to house refugees. Someone is making money off this.
I expect an Irish backlash. And soon.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 09:54 PM (1UZdv)
Sound affects were there.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 28, 2018 09:55 PM (CqhDV)
iPhone. Unfortunately, it wasn't updated and now can only be found on YouTube.
Posted by: Not a Lumberjack at July 28, 2018 09:55 PM (VWE5i)
I expect an Irish backlash. And soon.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 09:54 PM (1UZdv)
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Probably right after the German backlash.
#twoweeks
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 28, 2018 09:55 PM (CSNuj)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 09:55 PM (1UZdv)
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 28, 2018 09:47 PM (2DOZq)
I love that movie. Lauren San Giacomo as the broken woman was amazing. One of them really good films that flew under the radar. Tom Selleck is underappreciated.
I wonder how he might have been as Indiana Jones.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Really Here at July 28, 2018 09:55 PM (EhZNT)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 09:56 PM (rnAwa)
Also, Flash was on HBO literally picture in picture every day of every hour during the early 80's...so I've seen flash. It is unlike Star Wars, in fact, I'd never even make the connection from the secks to the art deco visions to the lack of pew pew, laser swords, x-wing fighters and a bunch of other elements that made star wars star wars.
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 28, 2018 09:56 PM (GoLZO)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 09:52 PM (e7oj4)
Yes very good. Unfortunately they don't play it much on TV.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 28, 2018 09:56 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 09:56 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 09:56 PM (rnAwa)
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It's the supple wrists.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 28, 2018 09:56 PM (CSNuj)
Posted by: BourbonChicken
Would you say he was wizard-like at pinball?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 09:57 PM (pwT9v)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 28, 2018 09:57 PM (GoLZO)
Heartily second this
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 09:55 PM (1UZdv
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Thirded.
Also Lawless, John Hillcoat's bootlegging movie set on Virginia.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 09:57 PM (Jj43a)
Another underrated Selleck movie. An Innocent Man.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 28, 2018 09:57 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 28, 2018 09:56 PM (GoLZO)
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No, it's not.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 09:58 PM (Jj43a)
Posted by: Blutarski at July 28, 2018 09:58 PM (+Tibp)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 28, 2018 09:59 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 28, 2018 09:59 PM (KCxzN)
Am I mistaken?
Posted by: JAS at July 28, 2018 10:00 PM (3HNOQ)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 09:54 PM (1UZdv)
The Crown has always treated the Irish more horribly than it has the people in its colonies.
Fuck Great Britain. We need a Thomas Meagher rebellion.
With a thin Lizzy music bed, of course.
EMERALD, MUTHAFUCKAS!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Really Here at July 28, 2018 10:00 PM (EhZNT)
Posted by: JAS at July 28, 2018 10:01 PM (3HNOQ)
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ok, there was a big Ace of Spades discussion about this a while back. The Christian generals are cowardly and snively, the priests betray the faith, while of course, the swarthy muslims are faithful and brave.
at least that's what I've heard. Shit, I bet orlando goes native.
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 28, 2018 10:01 PM (GoLZO)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 28, 2018 10:02 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: JAS at July 28, 2018 10:02 PM (3HNOQ)
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2018 10:02 PM (e7oj4)
From what I saw, it was not anti-Christian so much as anti-Dubya's universalist vision of Christianity. The Moslems in it are nemesis: they exist with their own chivalric code, but ultimately they don't drive the plot as Muslims. They drive the plot as natives to the Near East which Bush's army I mean, the Crusaders are not.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 28, 2018 10:03 PM (N1ZXu)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 28, 2018 10:03 PM (pwT9v)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite at July 28, 2018 10:03 PM (Ckg4U)
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ok, there was a big Ace of Spades discussion about this a while back. The Christian generals are cowardly and snively, the priests betray the faith, while of course, the swarthy muslims are faithful and brave.
at least that's what I've heard. Shit, I bet orlando goes native.
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 28, 2018 10:01 PM (GoLZO)
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It's a vapid and shallow reading of the film that cherry picks evidence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 10:04 PM (Jj43a)
Pretty much. It's utter unwatchable crap.
Posted by: at least we got Gladiator and Black Hawk Down out of Ridley before he decide to make sh*t again at July 28, 2018 10:04 PM (ERYwO)
BTW, Man From Snowy River is great. I feel like it's from another era. Sort of like how Disney made really cool films in the late 70's...like witch mountain and other things I got to watch during important Movie days in school
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 28, 2018 10:04 PM (GoLZO)
Posted by: kallisto
Very few folks have seen the James Mason/Judy Garland version.
The movie-going public and Oscar voters will lavishly reward Cooper and GaŚ2 for producing something great that finally wipes that bucket of flaming dogshit starring Barbra S. and Kris K. out of their memories.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 28, 2018 10:04 PM (FFJtw)
That was more Parliament. The Crown actually did try to do right by the Irish but it lost its privileges, steadily, to Parliament.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 28, 2018 10:04 PM (N1ZXu)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 28, 2018 10:05 PM (N1ZXu)
Posted by: Blutarski at July 28, 2018 09:58 PM (+Tibp)
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I think it is better that way sometimes. Nothing worse than actors/actresses trying to use accents and failing miserably.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 28, 2018 10:06 PM (I16G8)
Posted by: JTB at July 28, 2018 10:06 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 28, 2018 10:06 PM (GoLZO)
Posted by: Not a Lumberjack at July 28, 2018 10:07 PM (VWE5i)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 28, 2018 10:06 PM (GoLZO)
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It's about the fallen nature of man and the futility of utopianism on Earth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 28, 2018 10:08 PM (Jj43a)
Sound affects were there.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 28, 2018 09:55 PM (CqhDV)
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Hah! That Geico gecko can back up his cute convertible with his right arm draped on the back of the shotgun seat, never even changing gears. Top that!
OKay, no sound effects, but the little fella looks smoooooth.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 28, 2018 10:09 PM (0jtPF)
Don't forget "It's about the human condition".
Posted by: film analysis wanker words at July 28, 2018 10:12 PM (ERYwO)
And I have heard her sing real songs. She has a beautiful voice.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Really Here
I've read up on her a bit. She was relentlessly mocked as an artistic kid for being different and I think she took the insults to heart. I think the makeup and gaudy outfits are part of the armor she wears that enables her to get up on stage and perform. I think she has always had fairly low self esteem and has to fight to get herself out on stage.
Which is all very intriguing because in this movie she is showing the world her real face for the first time.
I am not into pop music and culture at all but I can appreciate the apparent psychology and backstory behind the artists. And of coursr Bradley Cooper gets up and actually sings.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 28, 2018 10:14 PM (FFJtw)
Posted by: vivi at July 28, 2018 10:19 PM (11H2y)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 10:21 PM (1UZdv)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 28, 2018 10:22 PM (km8m2)
I saw David Johanson last night in his Buster Poindexter persona. As a kid from Staten Island he wore a dress as the front man of the New York Dolls to get attention, and became the first punk rocker.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 28, 2018 10:25 PM (1UZdv)
Posted by: vivi at July 28, 2018 10:41 PM (11H2y)
1) FG is Scott fantasy, more akin to Wizard of Oz instead of Star Wars. In fact there are several homages to the Wizard of Oz in the movie. They make it to Mongo via the Imperial Vortex like Dorothy and the tornado. Dale is can't turn over the hourglass, etc.
2) The representation of Mongo as a technological, decadent fascist society is excellent and beats any political background in Star Wars.
3) Ornella Muti smokes the screen unlike any other woman.
To bad I so late, Flash Gordon is so layered, repeated viewings never disappoints.
Posted by: MAGA at July 28, 2018 11:08 PM (LnOh3)
Posted by: MAGA at July 28, 2018 11:09 PM (LnOh3)
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at July 28, 2018 11:40 PM (HbhJW)
Posted by: Ray Mota at July 28, 2018 11:41 PM (AVxHd)
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 28, 2018 11:51 PM (e1mEI)
459 Earlier today "Wonder Woman" escaping in a Jeep managed to put it into gear, take off, and shift without ever using the clutch.
Sound affects were there.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 28, 2018 09:55 PM (CqhDV)
Golden lasso, clutch petal, you figure it out.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 29, 2018 12:00 AM (e1mEI)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 29, 2018 02:10 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Sharkman at July 28, 2018 10:04 PM (FFJtw)
This was the first version of the film that I saw, so I do have fond memories of it. I just listened to the soundtrack again recently, and while most of it is cringe, there were a few songs I enjoyed. Babs can sing, no matter her political idiocy.
Posted by: Gem at July 29, 2018 10:31 AM (XoAz8)
Posted by: Jon at July 30, 2018 01:59 PM (JdIqs)
I don't know.... I just wanna watch it again.
Posted by: Christian Toto at July 30, 2018 05:31 PM (GppXG)
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