For Some Reason, the UK Isn't Just Insistent on Denying Care to a Sick Baby, But to Positively Killing It

A children's hospital in Rome has offered a free flight and free care at their clinic. The flight would be staffed by their own employees.

Cost to the UK? Zero point zero pounds.

But for some reason, judges have proclaimed that not only is the state justified in denying care, but the state is further justified in taking active steps towards killing the infant, despite the parent's wishes and despite an offer of free care by a less savage nation.

It gets worse, if you can believe that -- the state now has its armed branches threatening citizens for speaking out against the all-powerful, all-wise state's decision:

We've issued a statement this evening to make people aware that social media posts which are being posted in relation to Alder Hey and the Alfie Evans situation are being monitored and may be acted upon. Read the full statement here: https://t.co/epopt5bhmY
— Merseyside Police (@MerseyPolice) April 25, 2018

If it can happen in England, it can happen here. We share 99% of our political-cultural DNA with England. We're just about 30 years behind England in terms of most aspects of devolution (in some areas, like social justice warrior tyranny, we're actually the innovators being copied by England).

This is what your future looks like.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:10 PM

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1 Perhaps a first? Before Slap? Maybe! now to read the content.

Posted by: Vanceone at April 25, 2018 05:03 PM (A9Gmy)

2 top 100

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 25, 2018 05:04 PM (F5+ro)

3 Now, this is just messed up. Cold blooded baby murder, because the State cannot be made to look bad if the baby can go somewhere else and survive.

And what's up with threatening people who voice their disagreement?

Seriously, at this point in time with English speech police--isn't this about what Goebbels and Himmler were up to?

Posted by: Vanceone at April 25, 2018 05:04 PM (A9Gmy)

4 This is where the 1st AND 2nd Amendment comes in real handy.

Sux to be you, GB.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2018 05:05 PM (0ogQG)

5 This is what your future looks like.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:10 PM

30 years?

Ooh, I think that's an awful optimistic estimate, Mr. o' Spades.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 25, 2018 05:05 PM (F5+ro)

6 Parents need to pick their kid up and walk out of that hospital on Facebook Live.

Posted by: jd at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (+evAm)

7 But Trump is a fascist...

Posted by: Teemo at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (5E2yO)

8 If I were Pope Francis, I'd travel to the hospital and personally escort the baby to Italy. Seriously.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (Gei2C)

9 Death panels are a Vast Right Wing Paranoia.

Posted by: Your Betters, Who Know Better at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (XdD2Z)

10 10

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (Dp6qK)

11 Satan will have something absolutely hideous awaiting Alder Hey.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (pw+jk)

12 They're even worse than Canada. They would have been able to take the baby home here to pass in peace, or seek alternatives if they wished to. (Like take the baby to the US for care)

Posted by: GregV61 at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (FLpne)

13 Last I heard, Italy has granted the baby Italian citizenship.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 25, 2018 05:07 PM (MIKMs)

14 Merseyside Police: "We've issued a statement [...] social media posts [...] being monitored and may be acted upon."

Holy sh*tballs. England has turned evil. Not misguided. Evil. When SMOD comes, I'm thinking it needs to hit the UK first. We'll just have to make the sacrifice and wait for SMOD 2.0.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 25, 2018 05:07 PM (H8S+R)

15 Muslim rape syndicates?: ho hum who cares.

People wanting to help a dying baby?: How fucking dare you! Send in the SWAT Team!!!!

Posted by: buzzion at April 25, 2018 05:08 PM (lKs2v)

16 I have decided to live my life as a gay baby murderous piece of shit but mostly baby murderous piece of shit.

Posted by: Alder Hey at April 25, 2018 05:08 PM (pw+jk)

17 Compare this with the Left's position on the death penalty.

As an example, Arizona, it's become a challenge to get the proper drug cocktail to execute someone on death row because of what Obama's DOJ has done. It's a long story, but basically back channels have to be used and they may even bring back firing squads.

But here's a baby in the UK and the State can not only find the right drugs to kill the infant, but are actually ordering the parents to do so against their own will.

Posted by: Maritime at April 25, 2018 05:08 PM (lKmt3)

18 Mandatory or illegal. Bake the cake!

Posted by: muckrack at April 25, 2018 05:08 PM (IvEAj)

19 One book "Killing Babies IS my Bag Baby" by Alder Hey

Posted by: Alder Hey at April 25, 2018 05:09 PM (pw+jk)

20 Being a part of the EU soup for so long changed leadership thinking. The EU (the New Totalitarian, out of Brussels) was just getting under way with its Children's Rights Campaign, before Brexit. In other words, "Children are not possessions of parents, but of the state." The law lets the parents raise them - to a point - nothing the wording, "the law lets." This new thinking has permeated everything - school and gender confusion, health care, and so on.
And here we are.

Posted by: curley'slarryandmeeniemoe at April 25, 2018 05:09 PM (B6AQQ)

21 Parents need to pick their kid up and walk out of that hospital on Facebook Live.
Posted by: jd at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (+evAm)

The hospital and child's room is being guarded by armed Metro police. UK is determined this child dies, and will brook no interference in that goal.

Meanwhile little white girls are being diddled by muzzies to the aprobation of that same government.

This is what happens when you give up the means to resist. You give up everything else, too.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at April 25, 2018 05:09 PM (O9qtX)

22 Socialized medicine, the only thing it can't claim of a person is their soul. So they deny the existence of a soul.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 05:10 PM (mwi7D)

23 NRA made them do it!

Posted by: muckrack at April 25, 2018 05:10 PM (IvEAj)

24 Eventually they will just tie dry cleaning bags over our heads and leave us in a corner.

Posted by: navybrat, keeping a low profile at April 25, 2018 05:10 PM (w7KSn)

25 Didn't the UK start taking the passports of parents when the kids are give A final diagnosis, after parents took their Son to Spain for a New Laser treatment that the NHS didn't offer.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 25, 2018 05:10 PM (dKiJG)

26 If the State let the baby live, it might use up more health care resources in its lifetime than a baby that started out healthy. Can't have that, so it must be killed. This is what happens in a collective.

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (vkS2Z)

27 The Democrats obsession with health care reform is based on the enormous power the NHS has in England. They know it is their ticket to tyranny, without all of the messy sharp hoes.

Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (0kgK1)

28 Excuse me. Where do I collect my abject apology from the left?

Posted by: Sarah "Mama Grizzly" Palin at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (Fb9aZ)

29 Great Britain ain't.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (QQ+il)

30 If lizard people aliens had invaded earth after WWII and attained the upper echelons of power to prep for an invasion, what would they be doing differently?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (pw+jk)

31 "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

Posted by: muckrack at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (IvEAj)

32 National Divorce 2020

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (6Ll1u)

33 Serious Cat: "If I were Pope Francis, I'd travel to the hospital and personally escort the baby to Italy. Seriously."

The current Pope wouldn't do squat. If anything, he'll rationalize the UK's intent to murder and silence. Were I Catholic, I'd expect nothing from that seemingly empty vessel. Now John Paul II, he'd go in with an army of angels.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (H8S+R)

34 Remember, all this in the name of compassion.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (+y/Ru)

35 It's a good thing the Tories are in the saddle, huh?

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (knDqF)

36 Death panels?

Pshaw.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (+3KlA)

37 test

Posted by: Warden at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (MZ8Zz)

38 Parents need to pick their kid up and walk out of that hospital on Facebook Live.
Posted by: jd at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (+evAm)

They have over 30 Police Officers guarding the front door.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (dKiJG)

39 A years ago on this blog, I made the argument that England was one of those few countries that America would have to defend at all costs based on our shared history and culture. I was wrong. Let them rot in their own hell.

Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (sX1BW)

40 This is what your future looks like.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:10 PM

Or...

Or this is how revolutions start.
The English have been passively accepting for so long, but at some point may come to realize they might be better off with a different government.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (z79tQ)

41 The parents have a bad attitude so their baby deserves to be murdered
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But a doctor treating Alfie, who cannot be named for legal reasons, said that for Alfie to be allowed home would require a "sea change" in attitude from the child's family, and they feared that in the "worst case" they would try to take the boy abroad.

Posted by: Warden at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (MZ8Zz)

42
Parents need to pick their kid up and walk out of that hospital on Facebook Live.
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Problem with that is parents will be arrested for some cockamamie 'child abuse' taking the child away from wise and good medical providers. And then they can't help the baby at all.

There have been US cases recently of medical diagnostic disagreements and the hospital charges the parents to take away custody.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (MIKMs)

43 Pope Francis and the Swiss Guard go visit. And they walk out with the kid. I would love to see that happen and the idiots in the UK trying to kill the kid actually try to stop the Swiss Guard.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (mwi7D)

44 When the state is god it's judgement is final and will brook no questioning.

Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (LiyEm)

45 Look, if we're going to go around knocking over regimes with no regard for human rights...

Just sayin' is all.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (AM1GF)

46 This isn't' the first child that the NHS has murdered. Not by a long shot. But apparently, the British are all pussies and poofters.

Winston Churchill wept.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (QQ+il)

47 there is an article on red state by kira something thst compares the NHS' actions to the Berlin Wall.

The Berlin Wall was needed to keep ppl in so they could learn to appreciate socialism.

Same thing here. Have to keep everyone in the NHS.
Can't allow anyone to criticize the NHS.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (hMwEB)

48 This is what your future looks like.

Every argument that I can imagine to refute that conclusion has couter arguments that are equally valid.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 25, 2018 05:13 PM (roQNm)

49 Totalitarians must always squash one thing ... Hope. That is what this is about.

Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 05:13 PM (sX1BW)

50 The English have been passively accepting for so long, but at some point may come to realize they might be better off with a different government.

Posted by: OneEyedJack

The best of England bled out 100 years ago. Or came here well before that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:13 PM (AM1GF)

51 I knew the NHS was pure evil when that summer Olympics in Not So Great Britain did the opening ceremonies gig telling me how grate the NHS was.

The fascist left loves to give a signal of their inherent evilness.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 25, 2018 05:13 PM (pw+jk)

52 I can't post 99.9% of what I'm thinking.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 25, 2018 05:14 PM (mtfdF)

53 You will be made to swear.

Posted by: ShainS at April 25, 2018 05:14 PM (V17/B)

54 This is nothing more than State sanctioned murder of a baby. It's not really a surprise to me though.

I mean they have zero issues with pulling a baby out of a womb and slicing it's vocal chords so it can't scream while they are butchering it up for parts while it is still alive, so why should this be any different?

They might not pay in this world, but the next world is waiting for them.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 25, 2018 05:14 PM (+Dllb)

55 UK? Zero point zero pounds.

Do they use a decimal point for whatever fraction they're building pounds out of nowadays?

Posted by: DaveA at April 25, 2018 05:14 PM (FhXTo)

56 The Brits started out, just socialist--which was bad enough. They get more Mid-eastern all the time.

I can't hear a major voice, except for Western conservatives talking about anything close to the restraint in law.

It's all about getting done what you want done.

Posted by: Axeman at April 25, 2018 05:14 PM (vDqXW)

57 Moloch would be proud.

Posted by: Ruthless at April 25, 2018 05:14 PM (DfBUG)

58 What is the reasoning for why the UK doesn't want to allow the baby treatment elsewhere?

Is this all about money?

Seems to me it would be far easier to just say they aren't paying for anything done outside the UK than to have this fight.

Posted by: Maritime at April 25, 2018 05:14 PM (lKmt3)

59
The Green and Pleasant Land Serial Killer has been identified!

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 25, 2018 05:15 PM (GGiG6)

60 35 It's a good thing the Tories are in the saddle, huh?"

Most Tories are the equivalent of Chuck Schumer democrats.

Labour is led by a man who openly admires Stalin, and is staffed by people who openly advocate for the destruction of Israel and the extermination of the Jews.

And that's what you get to choose from if you're English.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2018 05:15 PM (k1TUh)

61 This is what your future looks like.

Critical mass status:

[X] not achieved, yet
[ ] achieved

Maybe if we bring more people into the country that can't read our words, understand a couple thousand years of Judeo-Christian background, our rules and laws, the background of same, then we might have a chance.

Who am I kidding, we're screwed.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 25, 2018 05:15 PM (LOgQ4)

62 Looks like the UK has taken the lead among European countries trying to fuck their citizens over. Silly of me for thinking Sweden couldn't be outdone.

Posted by: Chase at April 25, 2018 05:15 PM (RbV5J)

63 This is so disturbing, yet completely predictable.

Posted by: Monk at April 25, 2018 05:15 PM (573j3)

64 This is making me sick to my stomach.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2018 05:15 PM (MX7xj)

65 Think the most critical facet of single-payer healthcare is that it features single-decider treatment.

That is the contract: we will pay for everything, but we will decide everything, too. Period. Doesn't matter if you want to pay for it, or go to a service provider outside of the country. You give up ALL choices.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:15 PM (W+vEI)

66 On Twitter, every tweet about him has English ppl defending the hospital's decisions.

"But it's not just him, they do this to other patients/parents."

Oh yeah, that helps.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 25, 2018 05:15 PM (mtfdF)

67 Compare this to the recent royal birth of Wills & Kate.

We do not want socialized healthcare you guys. We don't.

And of course they are stopping the baby from going to Rome, bcz then it sets precedent and everyone will be clamoring to go elsewhere when they have a similar situation.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:15 PM (feFsi)

68 This is the sort of thing that is unbearable to read, that tempts you to write bannable things.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 05:16 PM (/qEW2)

69 England: shithole country.

Posted by: Dewey at April 25, 2018 05:16 PM (peYlM)

70 Seems to me it would be far easier to just say they aren't paying for anything done outside the UK than to have this fight.

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Totalitarians must squash Hope. Hope will bring them down. Well Hope plus guns. The UK took care of the latter, now its going after the former.

Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 05:16 PM (sX1BW)

71 They have over 30 Police Officers guarding the front door.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (dKiJG)

Great news. How many people have been knifed or attacked with acid during the same period?

Priorities, people!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:16 PM (+3KlA)

72 So how is that whole BREXIT thing going?

No progress you say? I find that very believable.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 25, 2018 05:16 PM (pw+jk)

73 Seems to me it would be far easier to just say they aren't paying for anything done outside the UK than to have this fight."

Oh no, they know they're not paying for it, that's not the issue. They are scared that it would make them look bad if they let the baby leave and it actually lived, when they said it wouldn't. So they're determined to kill the baby to prove that they were right.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2018 05:16 PM (k1TUh)

74 Why the hell do we have a "special relationship" with this barbarous land, again?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:16 PM (AM1GF)

75 The Merseyside Police will hopefully be so busy policing political speech online that they won't have time to arrest people for flipping the bird at speed cameras.

What a bunch of rotten egg-sucking fuckety-fucks.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at April 25, 2018 05:16 PM (rBnYq)

76 The best of England bled out 100 years ago. Or came here well before that.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello

________

That's sort of my theory as well.

Whatever "good" genes Western Europe had left long ago and then the remainder died in World War 1 and 2, leaving behind the weakest of the weak there now.

Posted by: Maritime at April 25, 2018 05:16 PM (lKmt3)

77 Obamacare.

This close.

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (2wOtx)

78 And he's still alive, breathing on his own, but they won't consider changing their minds!!!

They. Have. Already. Been. Proven. Wrong.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (mtfdF)

79 Any bets on Jimmy Kimmel crying about this during his opening monologue tonight?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (W+vEI)

80 Ahhh none of this seems as thought someone's authority has been personally affronted and they are responding with sadistic high handedness.

Nope.

https://tinyurl.com/yddy7ru8

Posted by: Warden at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (MZ8Zz)

81 National Divorce 2020
----
I like the National Divorce idea. There will be a war either way. But if we get "divorced" first, then they won't be our "countrymen" anymore. That way, we can demand unconditional surrender without any regard for their rights as Americans. No need for the Reconstruction to end this time. Permanent territorial status under a peace that makes Versailles look generous by comparison.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (AzW6q)

82
* Rubs British tea on t'aint and tosses into Boston Harbor. *

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (LOgQ4)

83 Bloody hell!

Posted by: Zombie Lady Di at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (JHwDP)

84 The British Empire, once a leading light of civilization, is truly and completely dead.

Posted by: Ruthless at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (DfBUG)

85 Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (z79tQ)

Don't count on it. Read the responses to posts written against the decision. A lot of Brits love and agree with all of this. They're a fallen people.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (wwd4n)

86 Expert rule.

Posted by: muckrack at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (IvEAj)

87 Dear Mersyside Police:

I call it like I see it. You're vile scum.

PS, I'm in Texas. Please, please try to do something 'bout it, ok?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (7LY+6)

88 Didn't something like this happen just a year ago too? Trump offered to give the kid free transportation and medical care but the assholes in UK said Nein.

Posted by: LASue at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (Z48ZB)

89 Compare this to the recent royal birth of Wills & Kate.

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The King v. the peasants. In many ways, its the story of England.

Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (sX1BW)

90 This is how you get Trump.

Next stop: Free helicopter rides.

Posted by: Max Power at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (q177U)

91 And of course they are stopping the baby from going to Rome, bcz then it sets precedent and everyone will be clamoring to go elsewhere when they have a similar situation.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:15 PM (feFsi)

The nightmare scenario for the NHS: suppose Alfie received medical care in Italy and somehow survived (long term, I mean).

The NHS would look like Josef Mengele for trying to whack him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (+3KlA)

92 In my experience most Brits pathologically defend NHS.They wanted that sweet socialism so bad they threw out Churchill the minute they defeated the German socialists.

Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (LiyEm)

93 71 They have over 30 Police Officers guarding the front door.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM"

Ain't it typical, there's never a car bomb around when you need one.

Posted by: Akhmed the Dead Terrorist at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (k1TUh)

94 Just like that last baby, the NHS isn't afraid that the treatments will fail, they fear that they won't, and they will have to pay for a lifetime of care for a "useless eater".

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (QQ+il)

95 The hospital and child's room is being guarded by
armed Metro police. UK is determined this child dies, and will brook no
interference in that goal.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert
________________________________________________
Make them stop you in front of the whole world.

Posted by: jd at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (+evAm)

96 How did we get to the point where our elected officials, institutions, and culture worships death and destroying innocence.

Posted by: Monk at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (573j3)

97 But the Pope won't have the time to get involved, but instead talk about how awful gun manufacturers are or that Donald Trump wants a border wall.

Where is the Catholic Church's outrage at the "wall" of police officers not allowing a child to leave and get treatment?

Posted by: Maritime at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (lKmt3)

98 Pope Francis: "I'd get on that plane right now. On the other hand...climate change"

Posted by: WisRich at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (G0vdT)

99 Think the most critical facet of single-payer healthcare is that it features single-decider treatment.

That is the contract: we will pay for everything, but we will decide everything, too. Period. Doesn't matter if you want to pay for it, or go to a service provider outside of the country. You give up ALL choices.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:15 PM (W+vEI)

They decide what doctor you see, based on where you live. They have to give you a referral to a specialist for you to even see one. And then there is usually a waiting list. They tell you what drugs you can have...there may be other and better ones, but it is not what they offer. It's just awful. Awful.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (feFsi)

100 1st, have the right to free speech, and 2nd, i have the means to back it up. Everything else is just details.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (JRlLg)

101 Holy sh*tballs. England has turned evil. Not misguided. Evil. When SMOD comes, I'm thinking it needs to hit the UK first. We'll just have to make the sacrifice and wait for SMOD 2.0.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel

Don't forget that there are mobs of people protesting this.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (+lVUW)

102 I have to assume that they worry that everyone will go outside the sucky UK medical system and then resent being taxed to death by it.

Posted by: dagny at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (ahV/f)

103 I like the National Divorce idea. There will be a war either way. But if
we get "divorced" first, then they won't be our "countrymen" anymore.

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Too late. They are not my "countrymen" anymore. I look upon the left as the left looks upon me.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 25, 2018 05:19 PM (pw+jk)

104 What Obama"Care" brings....

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at April 25, 2018 05:19 PM (Ftuf+)

105 Keep fucking that Royal chicken, great Britain. You see, as one of our eminent philosophers puts it:

What Jefferson was saying was, Hey! You know, we left this England place 'cause it was bogus; so if we don't get some cool rules ourselves - pronto - we'll just be bogus too! Get it?

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2018 05:19 PM (0ogQG)

106 So "Ferry Cross the Mersey" has become "Ferry across the River Styx"

Feh on their houses.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:19 PM (7LY+6)

107 How did we get to the point where our elected officials, institutions, and culture worships death and destroying innocence.

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Roe v. Wade may not have started it, but it was a big push down the hill.

Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 05:19 PM (sX1BW)

108 90
This is how you get Trump.

Next stop: Free helicopter rides.

Posted by: Max Power at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (q177U)
Only first ride free.

Posted by: muckrack at April 25, 2018 05:19 PM (IvEAj)

109 Now suppose that the child of someone prominent - i.e., not a peasant - were to find himself in the same situation right now.

What would the NHS/court system do then?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:19 PM (+3KlA)

110 Sickening.

Posted by: bluebell at April 25, 2018 05:19 PM (oMtOd)

111 Make them stop you in front of the whole world.
Posted by: jd at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (+evAm)

this

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 25, 2018 05:20 PM (hMwEB)

112
Please to observe carefully how the British are carefully going to monitor 'social media' for dissenters.

It's coming.

* considers 'Peter North' sock and decides unnecessary *

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 25, 2018 05:20 PM (LOgQ4)

113 This is where the 1st AND 2nd Amendment comes in real handy.

Sux to be you, GB.
Posted by: GnuBreed

Buncha dick sucking Brit wankers.
Hey Merseyside PD! I'm in Texas. Come get me.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 05:20 PM (pQplJ)

114 69 England: shithole country.
Posted by: Dewey at April 25, 2018 05:16 PM (peYlM)

Big League.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 25, 2018 05:20 PM (F5+ro)

115 Good grief.

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2018 05:20 PM (xjiRE)

116 Who are these police department insects all over England enforcing this horseshit, bragging about confiscated pliers taken off the street, warning about arrests for merely having an opinion? Natives, or The New British Citizens?

If you read these absurd tweets with a hectoring Indian or Pakistani accent, they seem a lot more plausible.

I guess the Magic Dirt of Britain didn't change them.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 25, 2018 05:20 PM (GGiG6)

117 I mentioned the English MD Harold Shipman on the last thread, perhaps the most prolific serial killer of all time. Looks like the NHS has adopted his ethos.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 05:20 PM (/qEW2)

118 Don't forget that there are mobs of people protesting this.

Posted by: nerdygirl

Call me when the protests involve stringing up NHS murdercrats.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:20 PM (AM1GF)

119 Compare this to the recent royal birth of Wills & Kate.

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The King v. the peasants. In many ways, its the story of England.
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (sX1BW)

Oh my. Just imagine if this happened to their new baby.

Posted by: LASue at April 25, 2018 05:20 PM (Z48ZB)

120 they defeated the German socialists."

"They"?

Posted by: 101st Airborne at April 25, 2018 05:21 PM (7LY+6)

121 ZOMG! I soooo can't wait for the royal wedding!

Posted by: Warden at April 25, 2018 05:21 PM (MZ8Zz)

122 Golden State Killer - in custody

NHS - still at large

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:21 PM (AM1GF)

123 >>What is the reasoning for why the UK doesn't want to allow the baby treatment elsewhere?

Think they see it as some sort of executor situation, where they take over management of your care so they have the final word.

If you look at past NHS programs such as the Liverpool Care Pathway, their doctors do not have to consult or even inform the patient of family when they decide it's your time to die.

This just very public example of how the system is set up and has functioned for years.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:21 PM (W+vEI)

124 You expect more from a country that fawns over the Royals who have German blood lines?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 25, 2018 05:21 PM (6Ll1u)

125 they defeated the German socialists."

"They"?

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Operating Market Garden was a British idea.

Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 05:21 PM (sX1BW)

126 Ingsoc.

Posted by: NCC at April 25, 2018 05:21 PM (c1ah2)

127 There's a Paul Krugman quote to the effect that stories of problems with the NIH are untrue.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 05:21 PM (+y/Ru)

128 Next stop: Free helicopter rides.

Posted by: Max Power at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (q177U)
Only first ride free.
Posted by: muckrack at April 25, 2018 05:19 PM (IvEAj)

"Here's your baggage claim check." /teehee

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:21 PM (+3KlA)

129 I got two bits that says the unnamed doctor is Muslim.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 25, 2018 05:22 PM (roQNm)

130 Mama AJ: "But it's not just him, they do this to other patients/parents."

Oh yeah, that helps."

That's just insane, isn't it? They're actually justifying because N > 1, perhaps much, much greater? Let's analogize: One is a tragedy. A million is a statistic. Is that really where they want to go with this? Yeah, dumb question apparently.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 25, 2018 05:22 PM (H8S+R)

131 But their healthcare is "free"!

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 25, 2018 05:22 PM (EDSlc)

132 43 Pope Francis and the Swiss Guard go visit. And they walk out with the kid. I would love to see that happen and the idiots in the UK trying to kill the kid actually try to stop the Swiss Guard.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (mwi7D)

They would be an unarmed Swiss Guard in GB.

Posted by: clutch at April 25, 2018 05:22 PM (kiSdp)

133 Fuck the pope. Have any of the Royal Family spoken up about this? They might have more clout.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 05:22 PM (/qEW2)

134 What Jefferson was saying was, Hey! You know, we left this England place 'cause it was bogus; so if we don't get some cool rules ourselves - pronto - we'll just be bogus too! Get it?

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2018 05:19 PM (0ogQG)

Now where's my pizza?

Posted by: LASue at April 25, 2018 05:22 PM (Z48ZB)

135 England is gone. We need to except that.

Posted by: Soona at April 25, 2018 05:22 PM (Fs5vw)

136 We're just about 30 years behind England in terms of most aspects of devolution (in some areas, like social justice warrior tyranny, we're actually the innovators being copied by England).

This is what your future looks like.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:10 PM

The future is now!

Posted by: Hawaiian Judges at April 25, 2018 05:22 PM (5ndb9)

137 I feel like England is ready to snap. I think that elderly pensioner that killed a burglar breaking into his house showed a deep cultural schism. And it's just one tiny flash point after another. The man who got eight years for flipping off the police camera, and now this young child.

Posted by: Max Power at April 25, 2018 05:22 PM (q177U)

138 94
Just like that last baby, the NHS isn't afraid that the treatments will
fail, they fear that they won't, and they will have to pay for a
lifetime of care for a "useless eater".

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (QQ+il)

It's like som useless eaters are more equal than others for the state.

Posted by: muckrack at April 25, 2018 05:22 PM (IvEAj)

139 This is the second such case in as many years.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 25, 2018 05:23 PM (UgPlq)

140
Dead babies can't take care of themself.

https://youtu.be/T93fV7c24Nw

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2018 05:23 PM (IqV8l)

141 Nope

Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2018 05:23 PM (/tG8l)

142 80 Ahhh none of this seems as thought someone's authority has been personally affronted and they are responding with sadistic high handedness.

Nope.

https://tinyurl.com/yddy7ru8
Posted by: Warden at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (MZ8Zz)

Shit like this is all too common in family courts in our country.

Posted by: Monk at April 25, 2018 05:23 PM (573j3)

143 I like Trump to tweet about this. Something like :

Alfie great little kid being killed by government idiots. Hope the Merseyside Police see this tweet.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 05:23 PM (n1b3L)

144 33
Serious Cat: "If I were Pope Francis, I'd travel to the hospital and personally escort the baby to Italy. Seriously."

The current Pope wouldn't do squat. If anything, he'll rationalize
the UK's intent to murder and silence. Were I Catholic, I'd expect
nothing from that seemingly empty vessel. Now John Paul II, he'd go in
with an army of angels.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (H8S+R)
****
One of my favorite stories from WWII is about a German Catholic Bishop who opposed the Nazis and spoke out against them vehemently (people forget that the Nazis put a lot of Catholics, and Catholic priests specifically, in the camps in WWII as well) . One day the Gestapo came to arrest him. He asked them to wait for a moment in the cathedral while he collected a few things. I short while later he appeared on the alter in all of his Bishop's refinement: miter, crook, robes, chasuble, alb, stole, cross, etc. etc. etc. "I'm ready," he said "take me." The Gestapo and accompanying soldiers sheepishly slinked out of the cathedral and never challenged him again, from what I understand. Got look a up that guy's name.

As I always tell my kids - a good priest is worth his weight in diamonds, and is just as rare.

Yes - the current "Pope" ( Sorry, Benedict is still the Pope as far as I am concerned) should have done something just like this - but Frankie Fabulous is to busy interfering in political issues like having countries open their borders for all to bother with little things like, oh, killing children and stuff.

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 25, 2018 05:23 PM (Fb9aZ)

145 Have any of the Royal Family spoken up about this?"

The peasants are revolting...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:24 PM (7LY+6)

146 Meanwhile, back at the bat cave, Giuliani is "negotiating" with Mueller to allow him to interview the President. Why? Mueller has nothing. If he has a question let him write it down and email it. Maybe Trump answers it, if he has the time and inclination, maybe he ignores it.

But never should Trump go full Ackbar with Mueller for an interview.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at April 25, 2018 05:24 PM (rBnYq)

147 133 Fuck the pope. Have any of the Royal Family spoken up about this? They might have more clout.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 05:22 PM (/qEW2)

You think if Kate's baby had this condition that they wouldn't allow it to be taken to Italy for treatment?

Posted by: buzzion at April 25, 2018 05:24 PM (lKs2v)

148 They have over 30 Police Officers guarding the front door.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (dKiJG)

Are ya kidding me? Where were they when the grooming and raping of girls by immigrants went on...for decades! Reading facebook for speech violations I guess. This is disgusting. Believe me, if it was a "royal" baby it'd be getting care.

Socialized medicine is socialized death.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:24 PM (feFsi)

149 135 England is gone. We need to except that.
Posted by: Soona at April 25, 2018 05:22 PM (Fs5vw)

Don't forget Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Bermuda, however, might stick around for a bit longer.

Posted by: Surfperch at April 25, 2018 05:24 PM (5ndb9)

150 If you look at past NHS programs such as the Liverpool Care Pathway, their doctors do not have to consult or even inform the patient of family when they decide it's your time to die.

Brits have a different perspective on this from Americans. We're much more individualistic, whereas they take a broader social view. They actually accept the idea that they probably won't get life-saving surgery past a certain age (IIRC 70 or so) because they've had their three score years and ten, and the resources can be better applied to, e.g., vaccinating children and such.

A VERY non-American perspective, driven by having socialized medicine. /spit

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:24 PM (+3KlA)

151 Think they see it as some sort of executor situation, where they take over management of your care so they have the final word.

If you look at past NHS programs such as the Liverpool Care Pathway, their doctors do not have to consult or even inform the patient of family when they decide it's your time to die.

This just very public example of how the system is set up and has functioned for years.
Posted by: Lizzy

______________

So basically in the UK, you can't really say "I want a 2nd opinion" when it comes to healthcare. It's not up to you.

Nice. Can't wait for that here.

Posted by: Maritime at April 25, 2018 05:24 PM (lKmt3)

152 79 Any bets on Jimmy Kimmel crying about this during his opening monologue tonight?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (W+vEI)

Kimmel, crying: "This kid would have lived if he had government healthcare *sniff, sniff*.

Sidekick: "Jimmy, he does have government healthcare. They're killing the baby."

Kimmel, drying his eyes: "Really? Then screw him".

Posted by: WisRich at April 25, 2018 05:25 PM (G0vdT)

153 Like Schaivo, the baby is certainly not there any longer, but... the determination to make them dead is very nasty and wrong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:25 PM (39g3+)

154 Place your bets -- Kimmel talks up 'free' healthcare tonight?

Wonder what NIH would have done with his kid.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 25, 2018 05:25 PM (MIKMs)

155 https://twitter.com/votermom/status/989254315276754944

The NHS: Can't escape it. Can't criticize it.
#AlfieEvans

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 25, 2018 05:25 PM (hMwEB)

156 You think if Kate's baby had this condition that they wouldn't allow it to be taken to Italy for treatment?
Posted by: buzzion at April 25, 2018 05:24 PM (lKs2v)

Exactly. They'd move the earth in Britain for her baby.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:25 PM (+3KlA)

157 Have any of the Royal Family spoken up about this?

Ha! No. Never happen. Also, Wills has said there are too many people on the planet, so we need to reduce births...or some such. But not for him, of course.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:25 PM (feFsi)

158 Accept

Posted by: Soona at April 25, 2018 05:25 PM (Fs5vw)

159 Serious Cat: "If I were Pope Francis, I'd travel to the hospital and personally escort the baby to Italy. Seriously.

======

This pope ain't gonna do shit. Ain't no John Paul II.

This pope would be all in for the USSR's boot on Poland's throat...forever.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 25, 2018 05:26 PM (pw+jk)

160 129 I got two bits that says the unnamed doctor is Muslim."

There were/are a lot of the old time Brits who were/are just as vicious as any Nazi or Stalinite Communist ever born.

The US Bill of Rights got written mainly to guarantee that our government could do to us what the British Government routinely did to the Founders and their generation. It's been going on for a long time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2018 05:26 PM (k1TUh)

161 PDT did try to help the first child. Same deal, citizenship and was going to send a team of doctors and his own plane to bring the family here.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 25, 2018 05:26 PM (UgPlq)

162 What's the etymology of "Merseyside"? They don't seem to be siding with mercy.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 05:26 PM (/qEW2)

163 So basically in the UK, you can't really say "I want a 2nd opinion" when it comes to healthcare. It's not up to you.

Nice. Can't wait for that here.
Posted by: Maritime at April 25, 2018 05:24 PM (lKmt3)

Can you ask for a second opinion from another IRS auditor?

There ya go.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:26 PM (+3KlA)

164 It costs money to keep infants and old folks alive. Young migrants need that care.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at April 25, 2018 05:26 PM (56GKt)

165 THIS is why you don't give up your guns.
And why, at some point...if it gets this bad...you're going to have to risk your life, liberty and sacred honor.

The UK has always been tyrannical.

Now they have lost any balance to that power

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 25, 2018 05:26 PM (xJa6I)

166 I believe they also did the same deal to Charlie Gard another child, that others offered aid to?

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 05:26 PM (eaoOY)

167 162 What's the etymology of "Merseyside"? They don't seem to be siding with mercy.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 05:26 PM (/qEW2)

The Mersey is a river.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:26 PM (+3KlA)

168 >>The current Pope wouldn't do squat

Now, now, he tweeted.

>>Moved by the prayers and immense solidarity shown little Alfie Evans, I renew my appeal that the suffering of his parents may be heard and that their desire to seek new forms of treatment may be granted.

So you see, he *did* do squat.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 25, 2018 05:27 PM (mtfdF)

169 Thank god for George Washington.

Posted by: William Eaton at April 25, 2018 05:27 PM (MuTTO)

170 139 This is the second such case in as many years.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 25, 2018 05:23 PM (UgPlq)

Was not there a case much like this in Boston not too long ago?

Posted by: Soona at April 25, 2018 05:27 PM (Fs5vw)

171
The Pope? Has the Mormon Church spoken out about this? Jews? Methodists? Presbyterians? Lutherans?

Why is Pope Francis the single voice in this world? The single solitary conscience that matters?

It's a little tiring. And frankly... stupid.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 25, 2018 05:27 PM (LOgQ4)

172 Deplorable Jay Guevara: "The NHS would look like Josef Mengele for trying to whack him."

Looks like that horse has left the stable.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 25, 2018 05:27 PM (H8S+R)

173 As has already been stated i'm sure, Death Panels are real.
I would assume there is already something in place to decide who has value and who has over stayed their value.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 05:27 PM (eaoOY)

174 The Mersey is a river"

The name means "border", IIRC...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:27 PM (7LY+6)

175 >>They decide what doctor you see, based on where you live. They have to give you a referral to a specialist for you to even see one....

Yup. Years ago there was a Brit reality star, Jade Goody, who wanted a pap smear while she was in her early 20's based on family history with cervical cancer. Doctor refused. She offered to pay for it. Nope, if he doesn't want her to have it, then she can't have. The NHS rules are that you have to be over a certain age to get it, so too bad. She got cervical cancer and died - never reached the age where she would have qualified for the test. How many people are dying because of policies like this?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:27 PM (W+vEI)

176 I was horrified by the Charlie Gard situation and wondered at the time why Alfie's parents didn't leave before the NHS killed their kid too. Now it is happening, except Alfie is not as ill so they're going to starve him to death.

Socialized medicine guarantees that the life and death decisions go to the state.

I hope that when the time comes, the NHS pulls the plug on a politician over the objection of their family.

Posted by: CN at April 25, 2018 05:27 PM (5gaNQ)

177 Huh. What does the Children's Rights Campaign
have to say about Rotherham, Rochdale, and Telford?

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 25, 2018 05:28 PM (+lVUW)

178 The reality is that white Britons are being denied life saving treatments because the resources have to go third world shitholers that invaded GB.

True. Fact.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 25, 2018 05:28 PM (pw+jk)

179 Absolute madness! They are going to let this child die, and for what? To exert their authority? I hate to say this, I really do. But at some point it would be interesting to see if say it were a royal baby, and the only cure was at the Mayo clinic. Think that kid wouldn't be on a plane ASAP? Rotten fucks. GB has allowed themselves to become slaves. Fuck them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 25, 2018 05:28 PM (EDSlc)

180 Ha! No. Never happen. Also, Wills has said there are too many people on the planet, so we need to reduce births...or some such. But not for him, of course.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:25 PM (feFsi)

It's not considered appropriate for the royal family to weigh in political or other contentious matters such as this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:28 PM (+3KlA)

181 So what if it's free? It sets a precedent that infants with expensive conditions deserve care.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at April 25, 2018 05:28 PM (56GKt)

182 I doubt the Royals have to put up with the NHS. Not peons. But the peons voted for it. Screw them.

Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2018 05:28 PM (/tG8l)

183 Alfie great little kid being killed by government idiots. Hope the Merseyside Police see this tweet.

Yeah its getting harder to support the "special relationship" as the UK turns insane and creepy. I guess all those books warning about a super-vigilant tyrannical government spying on people through their TV set were taken as instruction manuals.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:28 PM (39g3+)

184 "In Britain, the government itself runs the hospitals and employs the doctors. We've all heard scare stories about how that works in practice; these stories are false."

- Nobel Prize Laureate Paul Krugman

Well, thank God for that. For a minute there I was worried.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 05:29 PM (+y/Ru)

185 The progressives love them some euthanasia, the first step to the state making the decision for you.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 25, 2018 05:29 PM (6Ll1u)

186 I hope the residents of Merseyside make through this attack from the state, butter knives intact.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at April 25, 2018 05:29 PM (rBnYq)

187 What is the reasoning for why the UK doesn't want to allow the baby treatment elsewhere?

Think they see it as some sort of executor situation, where they take over ~~management of your care so they have the final word~~ ownership of you.

Fixed.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 05:29 PM (pQplJ)

188 adds - Ina America to 173

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 05:29 PM (eaoOY)

189 Hey Meghan Markle, not to late to realize what kind of family you are marrying into.

Of course, you are on the side of big money, so your kid won't be killed by the government if unhealthy at birth. Lucky you!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 25, 2018 05:29 PM (UsCnO)

190 When I've spoken to people here who are for Obamacare, and I explain the limited resources, the problems other countries have, everything that goes wrong, they refuse to believe it. They'll say "This is America", we won't do it that way.

They seem to think the govt. is a free bank and won't put limits on costs for drugs and hospital stays and doctor visits. But of course they will. People are very hard headed and refuse to see fact...reality.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:29 PM (feFsi)

191 It's not considered appropriate for the royal family to weigh in political or other contentious matters such as this.

Yeah, its their job to be the world's biggest welfare recipients and show up for special rituals.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:29 PM (39g3+)

192
Even with the dual citizenship out, they still kill this baby. Disgusting.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 25, 2018 05:30 PM (r+sAi)

193 I enjoyed watching Our betters Opt out of Obamacare, I would call that a tell'

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 05:30 PM (eaoOY)

194 The all-powerful state will not be criticized!

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at April 25, 2018 05:30 PM (56GKt)

195 Are we going to get to a time we could debate we were on the wrong side seventy five years ago.

Posted by: Fido at April 25, 2018 05:30 PM (UdORl)

196 I didn't scroll through all the responses on teh twits, but I hope this one was in there somewhere.

https://tinyurl.com/ybrxrhxh

Posted by: Bert G at April 25, 2018 05:30 PM (yzxic)

197 The current Pope wouldn't do squat.

Actually he's the one that got the Italian hospital to accept the baby and facilitated the childs new Italian citizenship.

In fact, it's the local Bishop and clergy you should be angry at. The local Bishop has stated his full support for the hospital. And, the priest attending the family is from Italy.

++Sorry the Pope is Francis and not Benedict. Deal with it. Try prayer.++ I'm not a fan of the Pope and I'm not Sede either.

Posted by: havildar-major at April 25, 2018 05:30 PM (jpW6t)

198 I was horrified by the Charlie Gard situation and wondered at the time why Alfie's parents didn't leave before the NHS killed their kid too.

I think when you grow up generation after generation viewing the government handling everything as the only way of things, its difficult to break out of that mindset.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:30 PM (39g3+)

199 Italy should go to war over this murder of their citizen.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 25, 2018 05:30 PM (QQ+il)

200 Gorilla they don't think it would ever be one they love or themselves.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 05:31 PM (eaoOY)

201
The progressives love them some euthanasia, the first step to the state making the decision for you.
=========================

Umm....they are already making the decision, at least in this instance. A judge condemned the kid to death for the crime of illness. Expensive illness, so obviously the state should kill him.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at April 25, 2018 05:31 PM (rBnYq)

202 How many people are dying because of policies like this? "

Not enough, according to the Brits.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:31 PM (7LY+6)

203 Remember when Prince William told the Brits they needed to stop having so many children? Now he's just welcomed his third into the world.

Good for me, not for thee.

Princely ponce.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 05:31 PM (ptqGC)

204 More cases in the USA that are just the opposite. Parents refusing to allow care for their kid.

Brings up the other sore point I have with Europe. The comparison of their infant mortality with ours. Comparing apples to orangutans because of different recording standards.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 05:31 PM (n1b3L)

205 Why is Pope Francis the single voice in this world? The single solitary conscience that matters?

It's a little tiring. And frankly... stupid.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic

___________

Because

A) He's the leader of the single largest Church

B) He seems to enjoy spouting off on all sorts of OTHER political issues that have nothing to do with actual moral issues (like Climate Change) How about a real black and white issue like this where he could make the case for life?

C) Other religious leaders have spoken out, but there is not a top down hierarchy like the Catholic Church where it carries as much weight

Posted by: Maritime at April 25, 2018 05:31 PM (lKmt3)

206
Yup. Years ago there was a Brit reality star,
Jade Goody, who wanted a pap smear while she was in her early 20's based
on family history with cervical cancer. Doctor refused. She offered to
pay for it. Nope, if he doesn't want her to have it, then she can't
have. The NHS rules are that you have to be over a certain age to get
it, so too bad. She got cervical cancer and died - never reached the age
where she would have qualified for the test. How many people are dying
because of policies like this?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:27 PM (W+vEI)

We were this close, until that evil Trump stopped us!

Posted by: Democrats at April 25, 2018 05:31 PM (UsCnO)

207 In Britain, the government itself runs the hospitals and employs the doctors. We've all heard scare stories about how that works in practice; these stories are false."

- Nobel Prize Laureate Paul Krugman

I despise this guy for all the bald face lies he tells. I don't know if he is stupid, or just parrots the talking points. But what a wanker.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:32 PM (feFsi)

208 However to execute a murderer in Britain in the same way would be seen as immoral.

Posted by: William Eaton at April 25, 2018 05:32 PM (MuTTO)

209 Our Betters always receive better care than the average American. And that's exactly how things work in England.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 05:32 PM (ptqGC)

210 This is what happens when the state owns your ass. This is what the likes of Nanzi Palsy, Fauxcahontas, Kameltoe Harris, and Corey "I love the D" Booker want for us.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2018 05:32 PM (NWiLs)

211 It's not considered appropriate for the royal family to weigh in political or other contentious matters such as this.

---

That negates, neuters if you will, the whole idea of a monarchy.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 25, 2018 05:32 PM (roQNm)

212 Yeah, its their job to be the world's biggest welfare recipients and show up for special rituals.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:29 PM (39g3+)

Yep. It's kind of the deal: as long as they keep their yaps shut, they get to remain as the titular heads of state, while the PM is the head of government.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:32 PM (+3KlA)

213 The NHS rules are that you have to be over a certain age to get it, so too bad. She got cervical cancer and died - never reached the age where she would have qualified for the test. How many people are dying because of policies like this?
Posted by: Lizzy

Had that been my wife/daughter/mother/sister, a whole lot of doctors would have been dying.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 05:32 PM (pQplJ)

214 http://bit.ly/2Js9Gyq
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Michael Brown's Mother Announces Run For Ferguson City Council

Posted by: Sorry/ Not Sorry at April 25, 2018 05:32 PM (y3aQB)

215 175 >>They decide what doctor you see, based on where you live. They have to give you a referral to a specialist for you to even see one....

Yup. Years ago there was a Brit reality star, Jade Goody, who wanted a pap smear while she was in her early 20's based on family history with cervical cancer. Doctor refused. She offered to pay for it. Nope, if he doesn't want her to have it, then she can't have. The NHS rules are that you have to be over a certain age to get it, so too bad. She got cervical cancer and died - never reached the age where she would have qualified for the test. How many people are dying because of policies like this?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:27 PM (W+vEI)

Remember that the Obama administration tried this shit with Breast Cancer screening and all hell broke loose.

We are very lucky.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 25, 2018 05:33 PM (dKiJG)

216 ++Sorry the Pope is Francis and not Benedict. Deal with it. Try prayer.++ I'm not a fan of the Pope and I'm not Sede either.

Posted by: havildar-major at April 25, 2018 05:30 PM

I'm not a fan of the current Pope either. But some people act like he's the single, solitary religious leader of the world.

Which leads me to believe every other religious leader is a pussy.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 25, 2018 05:33 PM (LOgQ4)

217 Can we stop this ride I don't want to ride anymore. The UK has come unglued. From Churchill to today. Sad:'(

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at April 25, 2018 05:33 PM (0OmEj)

218 Its just so odd watching the police in England tweet gleefully and happily about their crazed, controlling, creepy actions. Look at what we did! Watch out, subjects, we're gonna get you if you don't toe that line!

Katie Hopkins had an email sent out to people living in an area, basically saying "because of all the knife attacks, rapes, and murders in this area of town, we advise... people avoid it." Two guesses what the dominant religious background of the people living in that area are, and "Amish" doesn't count.

A proper police force would clear it up, but no these guys are warning folks to stay out of the nonexistent no-go zone that aren't real and craaazy myth only a racist would claim is real.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:33 PM (39g3+)

219
And it's thought that we should cede ANYTHING to the proponents of this malignancy who live here?

Let them go elsewhere or die.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 25, 2018 05:33 PM (S/hVx)

220 Don't count on it. Read the responses to posts written against the decision. A lot of Brits love and agree with all of this. They're a fallen people.
Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 25, 2018 05:17 PM (wwd4n)

Of course. But it could only appear that way since any dissent has already been declared off limits.

There may be a huge number of people who vehemently disagree, but don't want the legal hassle and abuse over a comment online.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 25, 2018 05:33 PM (z79tQ)

221

How do those bureaucrats sleep at night knowing they killed an innocent child?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 25, 2018 05:34 PM (GdWl+)

222 I think we should see the list.

at what point is a life worth saving, does it have a financial price?
or is it the probability of death anyway depending on illness?

who end up on the list? i think we should all know the limit to care so as not to be stuck in a hospital when we'd rather die outside a hospital.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 05:34 PM (eaoOY)

223 As soon as you have children in America, the state does own your ass and your kids as well.

Posted by: Monk at April 25, 2018 05:34 PM (573j3)

224 That negates, neuters if you will, the whole idea of a monarchy.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 25, 2018 05:32 PM (roQNm)

It's a constitutional monarchy, like others in Europe. The royal family is to the Brits pretty much as the flag is to us, a symbol of the country. They don't understand why we get upset when people desecrate the flag, anymore than Americans understand why, e.g., Mooch hugging the Queen was a gross breach of protocol. For us it would be like someone using the flag to blow his nose.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:34 PM (+3KlA)

225 do they not have a hospice home care, for those that cannot be saved, in the UK?

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 05:34 PM (eaoOY)

226 This is why we have fantasies like superhero movies. But no Iron Man is going to fly into NHS headquarters, activate his shoulder rockets and exterminate the lot of them and rescue that kid from them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 05:34 PM (/qEW2)

227
Didn't we just go through this?

How many babies do these leftists need to murder?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 25, 2018 05:34 PM (ohu8+)

228 I hope Americans are really paying attention to this story...and realizing this would be us in a few years. I hope they can connect the dots.

Oh, and with socialized Healthcare, you don't chose your doc, you get assigned. People think PPOs and HMOs are bad? Hah! They are cadillac plans in comparison to socialized healthcare.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:35 PM (feFsi)

229
There's a Paul Krugman quote to the effect that stories of problems with the NIH are untrue.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 05:21 PM

"In Britain, the government itself runs the hospitals and employs the doctors. We've all heard scare stories about how that works in practice; these stories are false."

https://tinyurl.com/ybef4vea

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2018 05:35 PM (IqV8l)

230 Too late. They are not my "countrymen" anymore. I look upon the left as the left looks upon me.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 25, 2018 05:19 PM (pw+jk)

Totally with you. But if we keep them in our country, we have to treat them as Americans. If they're just a foreign country we smashed in a war, then we can treat them as we please. We can impose a permanent Reconstruction. Or something along the lines of a Wormser Reichstag. Whatever we want.

Personally, I advocate a Carthaginian Peace. Sinistram Delenda Est.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2018 05:35 PM (AzW6q)

231 Michael Brown's Mother Announces Run For Ferguson City Council

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Well, she can afford it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 05:35 PM (+y/Ru)

232 188 adds - Ina America to 173
Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 05:29 PM (eaoOY)

If my memory serves me right someone here mentioned that congress eliminated that part of Obamacare back in March.

Posted by: Surfperch at April 25, 2018 05:35 PM (5ndb9)

233 I despise this guy for all the bald face lies he tells.

Yeah he is pretty despicable. I mean if he was the mailman at the local bar telling crazy stories and making up crap everyone knew was nonsense, it would be one thing, but he gets six figures a year to tell lies in the nation's most respected and prestigious newspaper. Such as it is.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:35 PM (39g3+)

234 How do those bureaucrats sleep at night knowing they killed an innocent child?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 25, 2018 05:34 PM (GdWl+)

Like babies (no pun intended) most likely. Having no soul does that.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Friday Afternoon Mode at April 25, 2018 05:36 PM (xPJvm)

235
I love how YouTube hits me with incessant Mormon ads every day. I can't seem to recall ever hearing anything from the head of the Mormon Church about much of anything.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 25, 2018 05:36 PM (LOgQ4)

236 I can imagine there will be a number of millennials who will have no problem denying ol' mom and dad extended life care. Just like Barry and his white, racist granny with cancer.

Camera Hogg will turn on his own prog parents happily.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 05:36 PM (ptqGC)

237 227
Didn't we just go through this?

How many babies do these leftists need to murder?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 25, 2018 05:34 PM (ohu8+)

How many you got?

Posted by: Cecile Richards at April 25, 2018 05:36 PM (NWiLs)

238 I'm not a fan of the current Pope either. But some people act like he's the single, solitary religious leader of the world.

Which leads me to believe every other religious leader is a pussy.

Francis is a south american Jesuit. Completely different background and education from Benedict and JP2.

God is in charge of life and death. No one else. Conception to natural death. Catholics are the only ones to still voice this part of our Faith. Many dont but I sure do.

Posted by: havildar-major at April 25, 2018 05:36 PM (jpW6t)

239 58 What is the reasoning for why the UK doesn't want to allow the baby treatment elsewhere?

Is this all about money?

Seems to me it would be far easier to just say they aren't paying for anything done outside the UK than to have this fight.

Posted by: Maritime

My suspicion is that if they let one do it, others will also.
Next thing you know everyone will want their baby to receive special medical treatment. Can't have that.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 25, 2018 05:36 PM (+lVUW)

240 Socialized health care is the Culture of Death. How I wish my church could figure that out.

Posted by: josephistan at April 25, 2018 05:36 PM (ANIFC)

241 Surfperch, so they are also enrolled in Obamacare?

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 05:37 PM (eaoOY)

242 In the UK they have Private Hospitals, Benny Hill did some jokes on it where a Bum and a Rich Guy switch places. I didn't get the Joke until my brother explained that they have separate Hospitals from NHS.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 25, 2018 05:37 PM (dKiJG)

243

"Tax."

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at April 25, 2018 05:37 PM (2wOtx)

244 The best of England bled out 100 years ago. Or came here well before that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello
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There is still a lot of good in England, or so I've heard about the SAS.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at April 25, 2018 05:37 PM (rBnYq)

245 And here I thought it was only Broward County LEOs who bullied children.

Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2018 05:37 PM (J7XgW)

246 Assad gasses children.

Posted by: muckrack at April 25, 2018 05:37 PM (IvEAj)

247 Yeah its getting harder to support the "special relationship" as the UK turns insane and creepy. I guess all those books warning about a super-vigilant tyrannical government spying on people through their TV set were taken as instruction manuals.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:28 PM (39g3+)

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Some of the people are wonderful, and understand what is happening, but their government and elites? No. There was a reason the American Revolution happened, and that reason is still valid today.

Posted by: William Eaton at April 25, 2018 05:37 PM (MuTTO)

248 I can imagine there will be a number of millennials who will have no problem denying ol' mom and dad extended life care. Just like Barry and his white, racist granny with cancer.

Fawwk, this hospital is expensive, like, she's so old anyway, mom would rather be dead, right?"
--scruffy bearded manbun soy boi with a European Man Satchel and jumper.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:38 PM (39g3+)

249 Next thing you know everyone will want their baby to receive special medical treatment. Can't have that."

Well of course not. The pie is only so large, so no one can have a bigger piece.

It's only fair.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:38 PM (7LY+6)

250 I went to the police FB page and called them the murderers they are, I can't imaging helping them starve the child

Posted by: CN at April 25, 2018 05:38 PM (5gaNQ)

251 Publius Redux: "As I always tell my kids - a good priest is worth his weight in diamonds, and is just as rare."

Yeah, there are surely many saintly priests doing heroic deeds. Alas, Francis ain't one of them. I thought he might be given he was considered "one of the people". Nope, his Socialist-Marxist tendencies have squashed his Humanity.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 25, 2018 05:38 PM (H8S+R)

252 It's worth noting that the Death Panels which decide the policy oh allowed and non-allowed treatments are typically not comprised of doctors. It's bean-counters who strictly look at expenses, and who took no Hippocratic Oath.

Of course the doctors are often no picnic either, but in many cases they are following policies they did not create.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 25, 2018 05:39 PM (GGiG6)

253 Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 25, 2018 05:34 PM (GdWl+)

Read Ordinary Men by Christopher Browning. You can't fathom where this is going to go.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 25, 2018 05:39 PM (wwd4n)

254
I hope somebody (a Brit preferably) on twishitter responded to that police twsheet with a mighty F. U.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 25, 2018 05:39 PM (r+sAi)

255 Don't count on it. Read the responses to posts written against the decision. A lot of Brits love and agree with all of this. They're a fallen people.
Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin

_________

I think unfortunately a lot of people confuse two separate issues with "I wouldn't want a child that was a vegetable" with "should a parent not be allowed to seek treatment elsewhere and be condemned by the State"

Reminds me of Terry Schiavo in that a lot of different arguments were getting blended together.

Posted by: Maritime at April 25, 2018 05:39 PM (lKmt3)

256 My suspicion is that if they let one do it, others will also.
Next thing you know everyone will want their baby to receive special medical treatment. Can't have that

I think that's it in a nutshell. Gotta cut this off right away, can't let the idea spread. Some guy in an office with an old fashioned mechanical calculator and green eyeshade ran the numbers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:39 PM (39g3+)

257 Remember that the Obama administration tried this shit with Breast Cancer screening and all hell broke loose.

This is where I insert my rant about women who want "single-payer" health care and bleat about their "bodies." They're apparently not bright enough to realize that they will have zero recourse if we adopt socialized medicine, and the government will of course screw up the whole thing, waste a boatload of money, and eventually have to cut back on health care to stave off disaster.

Now, class, who are the major recipients of health care in this country? Full marks to everyone who answered, "Women!" Men rarely darken the door of a GP much before 40, barring accidents.

So where will the government cut back on health care expenditures? You get two guess, girls, and the first one doesn't count.

Isn't that obvious?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:39 PM (+3KlA)

258 What's the etymology of "Merseyside"? They don't seem to be siding with mercy.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear

From the Mersey River. I'm sure the phonics are a coincidence.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:39 PM (AM1GF)

259 My husband's smug niece (the one who works at UC Berkeley now) informed me a couple of years ago that U. S. healthcare is an embarrassment, and we need British-style socialized medicine. I nearly had an aneurysm arguing with her. My husband's smug siblings all agreed with her.

Then I suggested she try dealing with the VA the next time she wants a quick mammogram or pap smear.

She just rolled her eyes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 05:40 PM (ptqGC)

260 45 Look, if we're going to go around knocking over regimes with no regard for human rights...

Just sayin' is all.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (AM1GF)

...

Amen.

Let's all gather at the nearest planned parenthood to plan our attack.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2018 05:40 PM (yL25O)

261 More humane to just grab the child by the heels and bash it against a wall. That will be next btw.

Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2018 05:40 PM (/tG8l)

262 183: PDT's preference for Macron speaks volumes on the special relationship. I'm no fan of France but he's telling May to FOAD

Posted by: CN at April 25, 2018 05:41 PM (5gaNQ)

263 >>Remember that the Obama administration tried this shit with Breast Cancer screening and all hell broke loose.

Yeah, they were too obvious about it.

They have definitely implemented rules for treatment of seniors that not so softly "nudges" doctors to put them on palliative care vs. treatment, hold off on tests so they don't find things that would need to be treated, etc. These are still in place.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:41 PM (W+vEI)

264 I remember a Painter that needed surgery on his Broken arm but because he smoked they refused to treat him so his arm healed in a grotesque way, it was in the Daily Mail. Now he's on disability because he can no longer paint.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 25, 2018 05:41 PM (dKiJG)

265 261: Prior to starving him, they wanted to go with a fentanyl OD

Posted by: CN at April 25, 2018 05:41 PM (5gaNQ)

266 Isn't this just after birth abortion? Coming soon to America

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 25, 2018 05:41 PM (6Ll1u)

267 Lizzy: "Any bets on Jimmy Kimmel crying about this during his opening monologue tonight?"

Kimmel is such a cocooned coward, he wouldn't dare address this.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 25, 2018 05:41 PM (H8S+R)

268 Is NHS pro- or anti- school shootings?

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 25, 2018 05:42 PM (2wOtx)

269 God is in charge of life and death. No one else. Conception to natural death. Catholics are the only ones to still voice this part of our Faith. Many dont but I sure do.

Posted by: havildar-major

Whatsoever you do to the least of these...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:42 PM (AM1GF)

270 George Orwell would be proud of his predictions

Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2018 05:42 PM (aC6Sd)

271 Lizzy: "Any bets on Jimmy Kimmel crying about this during his opening monologue tonight?"

Sure.

"can you believe those nasty deplorables who want the kid to continue suffering..."

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:42 PM (7LY+6)

272 "What would things been like if during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there, paling with terror at every bang on the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people?"
-Aleksander Solzhenitsyn

Posted by: T at April 25, 2018 05:42 PM (MmeCn)

273 Alfie should be converted to Islam.

THEN we'll see some action.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:43 PM (+3KlA)

274 Let's all gather at the nearest planned parenthood to plan our attack.

Posted by: TexasDan

Touche.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:43 PM (AM1GF)

275 246 Assad gasses children.
Posted by: muckrack at April 25, 2018 05:37 PM (IvEAj)

Damn right!

Posted by: White Helments Productions at April 25, 2018 05:43 PM (573j3)

276 Whatsoever you do to the least of these..."

Damn. Got dusty here all of a sudden.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:43 PM (7LY+6)

277 214 http://bit.ly/2Js9Gyq
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Michael Brown's Mother Announces Run For Ferguson City Council

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If she wins, she'll be arrested for embezzlement or kickbacks fairly soon.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 25, 2018 05:43 PM (GGiG6)

278 Would the U.K. Police point their guns at Pope Francis if he came to the hospital? Would Customs deny him entry?

If Ace wrote his post in the UK, which now appears to be a fascist country, he would get eight months in prison. Sixteen months if he included a video flipping the bird.

Posted by: mercenary13 at April 25, 2018 05:43 PM (s8xat)

279 This morning I was forced to watch the Today show (had to take my car to the shop), and Victoria Arlen was on talking about the four years in which her body completely shut down, yet she was conscious the whole time. Doctors thought she was in a vegetative state, but she was still fully mentally aware. Eventually she got better and was on Dancing with the Stars recently.

Anyway, I couldn't help but wonder if Alfie Evans is also fully cognizant, even though something has attacked his body. So evil that the court has decided he should be dead and is doing everything it can to make sure he dies.

Posted by: biancaneve at April 25, 2018 05:44 PM (A/iod)

280 NHS there, Planned Parenthood here.

Days like this I'm not sure the West deserves to survive.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:44 PM (AM1GF)

281 Let's all gather at the nearest planned parenthood to plan our attack.

Posted by: TexasDan

Now if we had media worth a pinch of dry shit, a reporter would ask Cecile Richards (or her successor) her views on Alfie.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:44 PM (+3KlA)

282 Then I suggested she try dealing with the VA the next time she wants a quick mammogram or pap smear.

She just rolled her eyes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 05:40 PM (ptqGC)

They can't see past "free". Years ago I had a fraternity brother that thought socialized medicine was the answer. I was still a .mil dependent at the time and had injured my knee. Having no wheels, I talked him into driving me to a followup appointment at the military hospital that was treating me by enticing him with "you'll get to see how well socialized medicine works". That one trip was all it took for him to change his mind about socialized medicine.

Posted by: Bert G at April 25, 2018 05:44 PM (yzxic)

283 Government knows better. They are preventing the child from suffering. The parents are just too stupid to understand. That is why all children should be removed from their parents and raised properly in government facilities. People can view them through a glass window if they insist on getting their fix of seeing kids. We might even allow a select few to hold children after proper screening, training and with extensive supervision.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 25, 2018 05:45 PM (wdmm9)

284 "can you believe those nasty deplorables who want the kid to continue suffering..."

Yep, two sides to every issue.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 25, 2018 05:45 PM (roQNm)

285 NHS there, Planned Parenthood here.

Do you seriously think they don't have organizations and systems entirely dedicated to abortion in the UK??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:45 PM (39g3+)

286 "This is what your future looks like."

Not mine. My future consists of the streets turning red should they continue to push this shit.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 25, 2018 05:46 PM (jWe5r)

287 >>Would the U.K. Police point their guns at Pope Francis if he came to the hospital? Would Customs deny him entry?

Are the police at the hospital armed?
Their police don't typically carry them.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:46 PM (W+vEI)

288 Michael Brown's Mother Announces Run For Ferguson City Council

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If she wins, she'll be arrested for embezzlement or kickbacks fairly soon.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 25, 2018 05:43 PM (GGiG6)

Odds are, it'll be before she gets the chance to embezzle from the gov. She'll do it from her own campaign.

Posted by: Bert G at April 25, 2018 05:46 PM (yzxic)

289 George Orwell would be proud of his predictions
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2018 05:42 PM (aC6Sd)

I think he would be in despair that we did not listen.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:46 PM (feFsi)

290
Enough of this thread. A walk with the dog is indicated.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 25, 2018 05:46 PM (S/hVx)

291 This is a link to Rahm's brother Ezekiel Emanuel's views on healthcare rationing.
Yes, there are people in this country who want death panels for us.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 25, 2018 05:47 PM (+lVUW)

292 Reading the twitter stream is instructive, as there are plenty of English on there defending the state kill order and the Merseyside police. That would be true here too, and you know Krugman et al at the NYT would be in the lead criticizing any political speech condemning a decision like this, or the police for their overt threats against the population.

We are really on the verge of a life just like Merseyside's.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at April 25, 2018 05:47 PM (rBnYq)

293 Do you seriously think they don't have organizations and systems entirely dedicated to abortion in the UK??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Oh, pickin' the nits are ya...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:47 PM (AM1GF)

294 Are the police at the hospital armed?
Their police don't typically carry them.

Tasers.

Posted by: havildar-major at April 25, 2018 05:47 PM (jpW6t)

295 Ha! No. Never happen. Also, Wills has said there are too many people on the planet, so we need to reduce births...or some such. But not for him, of course.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:25 PM

OT but after Queen Elizabeth goes to her heavenly reward, the British monarchy is living on borrowed time. Her idiot son Charles is gaga for Islam. Wills is lazy, wants the perks but not the responsibilities. He'll be lucky if his wife and kids aren't publicly beheaded by the muzzies when they take over.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at April 25, 2018 05:48 PM (2NqXo)

296 It was a Plumber that NHS refused to treat because he smoked, click my name for the article and they have a picture of his arm

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 25, 2018 05:48 PM (dKiJG)

297 Odds are, it'll be before she gets the chance to embezzle from the gov. She'll do it from her own campaign.
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I think there are already inter-family lawsuits. Nobody gets tshirt sales but the mother -- when the grandma was the one who was stuck with the young man.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 25, 2018 05:48 PM (MIKMs)

298 It's like Bob Dylan says, the times they are achangin'.

The Democrats
@TheDemocrats
Last night @kanyewest declared his candidacy for president in 2020. Welcome to the race, Mr. West. Glad to have you.
9:42 AM - Aug 31, 2015

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 05:48 PM (+y/Ru)

299 To be fair, they are saving the baby from a childhood of being raped by Pakistani Immigrants.

Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 05:49 PM (aXkKa)

300 "If it can happen in England, it can happen here. "

No, not "can", it's going to happen here, unless we do something to prevent it.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at April 25, 2018 05:49 PM (Mbmmf)

301
It's like Bob Dylan says, the times they are achangin'.

Gotta serve somebody

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2018 05:50 PM (IqV8l)

302 I find it interesting the Brits have no problem condemning a young child to death but the death penalty for a convicted murderer is considered a heinous crime and therefore, isn't permitted.

Posted by: Blake at April 25, 2018 05:50 PM (qC1Sy)

303

Didn't we just go through this?

How many babies do these leftists need to murder?

Considering the evil that they put on display daily, all of them.

When it comes to anything concerning human nature, the Left's default position is to assume the worst in each instance.

Take capitalism, for instance. What's the Left's automatic assumption? That it's oppressive.

Race? That all honkeys are born racists.

They never seem to be able to look on the bright side of any issue or have faith that people will do the right thing.

And they want control over us all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 25, 2018 05:50 PM (GdWl+)

304 Jimmy Kimmel won't mention it because they ignore anything that doesn't fit the narrative, and they certainly don't want to inform people about this.

He'd only do the "NHS is killing the kid with kindness if someone else brought it up, though it's more likely he'd ask "Who?"

Now if we could only get nutty Kanye to tweet about it, LOL!

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/
989227154993963009

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:50 PM (W+vEI)

305 The NHS: Can't escape it. Can't criticize it.
#AlfieEvans
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 25, 2018 05:25 PM (hMwEB)

That gal who answered you is wrong. Charlie Nash's parents raised more than enough money to pay for treatments for their son. The black robed death panel banned them from seeking said treatments, regardless of ability to pay.

UK is lost. Time for us to pull support and what military assets we have left there and let them sink into a muzzie pit.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at April 25, 2018 05:50 PM (O9qtX)

306 In my experience, lefties simultaneously believe both of the following, without thought for the contradiction.

1. If not for those awful money-grubbing insurance companies, we'd all be receiving whatever care we thought we needed

2. It doesn't matter if "free" healthcare is terrible quality, the fact that some people can't get care is a moral wrong so terrible, it's on par with slavery

Posted by: bonhomme at April 25, 2018 05:50 PM (iv0p7)

307 Merseyside

Mercy's Side

Guess not.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:50 PM (feFsi)

308 We stand with our Merseyside Bretheren.

Well, outside by the employee smoking area. But morally we're right there with them barricading the hall.

Posted by: Broward County Police at April 25, 2018 05:51 PM (yL25O)

309 It was a Plumber that NHS refused to treat because he smoked, click my name for the article and they have a picture of his arm
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Something similar already going on here, even with private insurance. Have to lose weight before having any surgery, etc.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 25, 2018 05:51 PM (MIKMs)

310 I posted a rant to their FB page... Everyone here should flood their post with full-fledged, freedom-loving, righteous American rage... Tell those Fascist pricks what we think of em... https://www.facebook.com/merseypolice/posts/1774908912565745

Posted by: I Smell Something Rotten at April 25, 2018 05:52 PM (iWzUm)

311 UK is lost."

"Lost"?

Nay. It has simply reverted to it's normal state. The tribal leaders live well, the rest exist to serve them.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:52 PM (7LY+6)

312 112
Please to observe carefully how the British are carefully going to monitor 'social media' for dissenters.

It's coming.

* considers 'Peter North' sock and decides unnecessary *
Posted by: Forgot My Nic

Welp, they sent some guy to prison for 8 months for flipping the bird to a cop camera.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 25, 2018 05:52 PM (+lVUW)

313 Hey GB, you're not going to waste those parts, are you?

Posted by: Planned Parenthood Accountants at April 25, 2018 05:52 PM (ABjxW)

314 Just tuned back in.
This is outrageous.
There has to be more to this...certainly...isn't there?

My ancestors kicked their asses back in 1776...I've no problem doing it again...here if need be.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2018 05:52 PM (0tfLf)

315
Is this all about money?

Seems to me it would be far easier to just say they aren't paying for anything done outside the UK than to have this fight.

Posted by: Maritime at April 25, 2018 05:14 PM (lKmt3)

No, I think Italy has offered to pay for everything.
They even granted Alfie Italian citizenship.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 25, 2018 05:52 PM (hMwEB)

316
I'd feel better about this if the head of the Mormon Church, the head of Judaism, Lutheran sects, Presbyterian sects, Methodist, etc... there are something like 5,000 religions in this world... someone other than the head of the Catholic Church was to blame.

You gotta spread the blame around.

Reagan alone didn't kill the commies. It took a Pope, yes. And a day-laborer, and a British PM.

Get your own people involved. Synergy. Or stfu.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 25, 2018 05:53 PM (LOgQ4)

317
UK is lost. Time for us to pull support and what military assets we have left there and let them sink into a muzzie pit.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at April 25, 2018 05:50 PM

Don't you want to send your sons "over there" to fight again?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2018 05:54 PM (IqV8l)

318 I'll take on and pound any one of you fags in the octagon!

Posted by: Jimmie Clownfart Kimmel at April 25, 2018 05:54 PM (J7XgW)

319 Yes, 'n' how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 05:54 PM (+y/Ru)

320 >>No, I think Italy has offered to pay for everything.
They even granted Alfie Italian citizenship.

If I were Alfie's father I would hold out for all of that and 7 minutes in the closet with the modern quivalent of Sofia Loren.

Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 05:54 PM (aXkKa)

321 It's coming."

No, it's not.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:54 PM (7LY+6)

322 Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 25, 2018 05:50 PM (GdWl+)

I disagree on this. I think that it's the left's belief in the perfectibility and fundamental "good" of humanity that causes them to believe what they believe. In my life the conservatives are the ones I know who believe man is fallen and corrupted, have the worst things to say about humanity as a species, but strive to improve the world around them. The leftists are the utopians, and as such believe that humanity can be perfected by culling those that don't share their view. Their idea of good is a lockstep race of collectivists. Perfectibility is annihilating wrongthink, not reforming it or debating it.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 25, 2018 05:54 PM (wwd4n)

323 318 I'll take on and pound any one of you fags in the octagon!
Posted by: Jimmie Clownfart Kimmel at April 25, 2018 05:54 PM (J7XgW)

you misspelled ass, Jimmie.

Posted by: Roy at April 25, 2018 05:55 PM (ABjxW)

324 I reeeeallly don't wish that people would go to hell, but the people in charge of this situation need to roast for all eternity.

Posted by: pookysgirl at April 25, 2018 05:55 PM (XKZwp)

325 Don't you want to send your sons "over there" to fight again?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2018 05:54 PM (IqV8l)

Nope. As the preacher said to Cleavon Little in Blazing Saddles, "Son, you're on your own."

Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2018 05:55 PM (MX7xj)

326 Perfectibility is annihilating wrongthink,"

Ah, the NewSpeak Dictionary...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:55 PM (7LY+6)

327 Don't you want to send your sons "over there" to fight again?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2018 05:54 PM (IqV8l)

Only thing I'm willing to send is Arc Lights. A lot of them. Flatten the place and start over.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at April 25, 2018 05:55 PM (O9qtX)

328 I Smell Something Rotten at April 25, 2018 05:52 PM

Sorry, My name is already on too many lists and in too many cross-refreenced databases.

Say, you wouldn't happen to be an undercover cop trying to provoke a little outrage would you?

Hah! What am I saying. That's paranoia to think that, and you wouldn't admit it if you were.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 25, 2018 05:55 PM (roQNm)

329 Is this all about money?

Seems to me it would be far easier to just say they aren't paying for anything done outside the UK than to have this fight.
_______________

Not about money.

It's about control.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 25, 2018 05:55 PM (fqUgw)

330 William and Kate have now had 3 children. What if it were one of theirs? I would really like to see one of the royals speak up against this - tradition be damned.

I seem to remember this happening last year in GB when NHS decided to hell with the parents wishes and their child died.

Posted by: Cheri at April 25, 2018 05:56 PM (oiNtH)

331 118 Don't forget that there are mobs of people protesting this.

Posted by: nerdygirl

Call me when the protests involve stringing up NHS murdercrats.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone

Yeah, I don't see them making much of a stir, unless there's soccer involved. Now that's worth rioting over.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 25, 2018 05:56 PM (+lVUW)

332 1,100 likes for the Merseyside Gestapo threat? Who are these f*cks?

Posted by: willingly into the camps at April 25, 2018 05:56 PM (vN+zJ)

333 266 Isn't this just after birth abortion? Coming soon to America
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 25, 2018 05:41 PM (6Ll1u)

--------------------------

Just that in this case the mother has no say...so much for "its her body" and "her choice".

Yea...

Posted by: William Eaton at April 25, 2018 05:56 PM (MuTTO)

334 Zeke Emmanuel said that at age 70 people "have outlived their usefulness" and are a burden to their families.

He didn't follow up on that comment, which leaves one wondering what his solution would be.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 05:56 PM (ptqGC)

335 I mentioned this elsewhere earlier.
The family is not asking for the NHS to go above and beyond what they're doing, palliative care, nothing. In fact, I bet they'd be uber cool with the thought of the family taking the baby home to die.

But they risk the potential that something might be done.
This is an evil power play, pure and simple. They're flexing their muscles, and putting the sheep in their place. Sadly, an awful lot of them like the idea of the abattoir.

Posted by: clutch cargo at April 25, 2018 05:57 PM (RHEDC)

336

My ancestors kicked their asses back in 1776...I've no problem doing it again...here if need be.

My family GTFO of there in 1750 and came here.

Smart people.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 25, 2018 05:57 PM (GdWl+)

337 121 ZOMG! I soooo can't wait for the royal wedding!
Posted by: Warden
That actress dunce has already made clear her feelings about Trump.
The only interest I have in that wedding is placing bets on how soon before they divorce.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 25, 2018 05:57 PM (+lVUW)

338 Nope. As the preacher said to Cleavon Little in Blazing Saddles, "Son, you're on your own."

I do wonder - exactly how different would things be had we said that in the 30's...

Sad, it is.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:58 PM (7LY+6)

339 321 It's coming."

No, it's not.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:54 PM

This is why we have the Second Amendment.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2018 05:58 PM (0tfLf)

340
I expect zeke emmanuel to off himself on his 70th birthday.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 25, 2018 05:58 PM (r+sAi)

341 >>Zeke Emmanuel said that at age 70 people "have outlived their usefulness" and are a burden to their families.

He didn't follow up on that comment, which leaves one wondering what his solution would be.

It's part of his Complete Lives Systems policy.
He's said that when he gets to 70 he's OK with dying.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:58 PM (W+vEI)

342 Zeke Emmanuel said that at age 70 people "have outlived their usefulness" and are a burden to their families.

He didn't follow up on that comment, which leaves one wondering what his solution would be.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 05:56 PM (ptqGC)

Um, President Trump is 71.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 25, 2018 05:59 PM (sIYDG)

343 This is why we have the Second Amendment. "

Amen.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:59 PM (7LY+6)

344 ZOMG! I soooo can't wait for the royal wedding!

Posted by: Warden

That actress dunce has already made clear her feelings about Trump.

The only interest I have in that wedding is placing bets on how soon before they divorce.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 25, 2018 05:57 PM (+lVUW)

This. Her family is a hot mess, and she and Harry have invited Mooch and Barry to the wedding. Trash loves trash.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 05:59 PM (ptqGC)

345 The only interest I have in that wedding is placing bets on how soon before they divorce.
_______________

Just going by Ms. Sparkle's history, that will be the day she meets a man who she thinks can do more for her.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 25, 2018 05:59 PM (fqUgw)

346 KIM KARDASHIAN: IS FREE THINKING NOT ALLOWED?

By George, I think she's got it!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 06:00 PM (+y/Ru)

347 Looks like Brexit was a corpse twitch, at best.

I'd be looking very seriously at visa waiver arrangements and intel cooperation - that is, reviewing if they are still appropriate. Even before considering what may turn out to be incredibly outrageous shenanigans involving Brit intel in our recent/ongoing coup attempt.

Authoritarianism is a spectrum. It's not just the North Koreas or Venezuelas or Zimbabwes that need to be kept at arms' length, or worse.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 25, 2018 06:00 PM (QDnY+)

348 Deplorable Jay Guevara: "Alfie should be converted to Islam.

THEN we'll see some action."

That's perverse but absolutely brilliant. I bow to your thinking from inside the box.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 25, 2018 06:00 PM (H8S+R)

349 I do wonder - exactly how different would things be had we said that in the 30's...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 05:58 PM (7LY+6)

Kinda wish we had. I'll bet we all have some family members we would have loved to have met who were killed over there. I certainly do.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2018 06:00 PM (MX7xj)

350 And this on ANZAC Day.
It is just reprehensible.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2018 06:01 PM (0tfLf)

351 340
I expect zeke emmanuel to off himself on his 70th birthday.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 25, 2018 05:58 PM (r+sAi)

-------------------

No he is special according to the left. Being a "thought leader" gives him the right to live on.

Posted by: William Eaton at April 25, 2018 06:01 PM (MuTTO)

352 What's odd here is the complete "inside-out" of the Brit mind. They would have been one of the first to stand up to this 100 years ago.

Posted by: dagny at April 25, 2018 06:01 PM (ahV/f)

353 Nerdygirl @ 337 - Exactly. The stupid press is now trying to compare Markel's style to that of Jackie Onassis. Good Lord. I give it less than a year. They love them some Obama's and ooooh, Trump isn't invited to the wedding.....I'm sure he's really hurt by that. /sarc

Posted by: Cheri at April 25, 2018 06:01 PM (oiNtH)

354 It's part of his Complete Lives Systems policy.
He's said that when he gets to 70 he's OK with dying."

When he gets to 70, I'm OK with making sure that he does.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2018 06:02 PM (k1TUh)

355 >>>I hope that when the time comes, the NHS pulls the plug on a politician over the objection of their family.

I don't think that's how this works.

Posted by: Max Power at April 25, 2018 06:02 PM (q177U)

356 Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2018 06:00 PM (MX7xj)

Certainly would have been less communists around, that's for sure.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 25, 2018 06:02 PM (wwd4n)

357 That Hideous Strength.

Posted by: George LeS at April 25, 2018 06:02 PM (/ki+X)

358 I'll bet we all have some family members we would have loved to have met who were killed over there. I certainly do."

Same here. On both sides of the world...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 06:02 PM (7LY+6)

359 well Zeke E. was born in 1957, i hope he practices what he preaches

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 06:02 PM (eaoOY)

360 Nothing quiets you down like the police state actually demonstrating its power in the light of day as it murders an inconvenient child to ensure that all its subjects recognize the correctness of the state.

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 25, 2018 06:02 PM (n9EOP)

361 352 What's odd here is the complete "inside-out" of the Brit mind. They would have been one of the first to stand up to this 100 years ago.
Posted by: dagny at April 25, 2018 06:01 PM (ahV/f)

Could this be a City of London thing versus the rest of England thing?

Posted by: White Helments Productions at April 25, 2018 06:03 PM (573j3)

362 Not about money.

It's about control.

-
First you get the control, then you get the money.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 06:03 PM (+y/Ru)

363 353 Nerdygirl @ 337 - Exactly. The stupid press is now trying to compare Markel's style to that of Jackie Onassis."

Good god, Merkel makes sacks of potatoes like stylish by comparison.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2018 06:03 PM (k1TUh)

364 354 It's part of his Complete Lives Systems policy.
He's said that when he gets to 70 he's OK with dying."

When he gets to 70, I'm OK with making sure that he does.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2018 06:02 PM (k1TUh)

....

Anyone who's okay with dying at 70 is okay with dying at 69.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2018 06:03 PM (yL25O)

365 >>Isn't this just after birth abortion? Coming soon to America

Post birth abortion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groningen_Protocol

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 06:04 PM (W+vEI)

366 http://bit.ly/2oQwuB7
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Kanye with a Make America Great Again hat

Posted by: Sorry/ Not Sorry at April 25, 2018 06:04 PM (y3aQB)

367 KIM KARDASHIAN: IS FREE THINKING NOT ALLOWED?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 06:00 PM (+y/Ru)

Not anymore, sugar rump.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2018 06:04 PM (MX7xj)

368 Nothing quiets you down like the police state actually demonstrating its
power in the light of day as it murders an inconvenient child to ensure
that all its subjects recognize the correctness of the state.
...

Exactly.

They're not "exercising mercy" or "following the rules".

They're making a point.

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 25, 2018 06:04 PM (2wOtx)

369 TexasDan, certainly as we see with babies in utero.
First twenty weeks now we have some stating a moment before birth a womans choice.
they always move the goal to their actual line

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 06:04 PM (eaoOY)

370 Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2018 06:03 PM (yL25O)

I think I just figured out how our government is going to solve the unfunded SS obligation problem...

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 25, 2018 06:04 PM (wwd4n)

371 357 That Hideous Strength.
Posted by: George LeS at April 25, 2018 06:02 PM (/ki+X)

...

For any who don't know, this is the third of C.S. Lewis' "space" trilogy, and it's the most prescient, terrifying think imaginable. I think of it all the time these days.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2018 06:04 PM (yL25O)

372 I hope they all finally realize what it means to belong to your government.

They are,to a person, property and nothing more in the eyes of the law.

It's is the horrible face of the monster that gives you "free" stuff.

Horrible.

God deliver us from this evil.

Posted by: Simplemind at April 25, 2018 06:05 PM (ZuGkg)

373 heck some even believe a child isn't a human until after age two.

i know they can be tiresome, but ..

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 06:05 PM (eaoOY)

374

Perfectibility is annihilating wrongthink, not reforming it or debating it.

IMHO, the Left wants to force everyone to conform to their vision of The Perfect Person. And they'll use anything at their disposal in order to do that, usually something nefarious, as history has demonstrated many times.

We on the right want to grow organically, through experience, with our own individual, God-given conscience as our guide.

The Left wants us to live from the outside in, while the Right wants to live from the inside out.
Big difference there.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 25, 2018 06:05 PM (GdWl+)

375 I am 70 years old....I am melting! melting!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 25, 2018 06:05 PM (MuTTO)

376 The important thing is that all the cyberpolice in Merseyside got home safe.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 25, 2018 06:05 PM (FLifI)

377 http://www.diogenesmiddlefinger.com/2018/04/you-never-once-saw-picture-of-michelle.html

Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2018 06:05 PM (aC6Sd)

378 KIM KARDASHIAN: IS FREE THINKING NOT ALLOWED?
______________

How ironic to hear that coming from an Obama voter.

What was it about "fundamentally transformed" that you didn't get, dearie?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 25, 2018 06:06 PM (fqUgw)

379 Newsbusters reports the major networks spent an average of 28 minutes on the new Royal baby, zero on the dying baby.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 06:06 PM (ptqGC)

380 They would have been one of the first to stand up to this 100 years ago. "

Not really. The roots go well back...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 25, 2018 06:06 PM (7LY+6)

381 we're the herd that provides them sustenance when they are finished with us we should politely off ourselves.

Be sensible You guys!

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 06:06 PM (eaoOY)

382 Palin was an idiot right when she talked about 'Death Panels'? The left howled and that told you everything that you need to know that was indeed the intent. Unless you are well connected, think the right was, and have a boat load of cash.

Posted by: Cheri at April 25, 2018 06:06 PM (oiNtH)

383 white privilege NOOD

Posted by: Max Power at April 25, 2018 06:06 PM (q177U)

384 Zeke can get in the fucking chopper at 70.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 25, 2018 06:07 PM (89T5c)

385 the Left wants to force everyone to conform to their vision of The Perfect Person.
---
Yeah... I believe they refer to it as the New Soviet Man, IIRC.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2018 06:07 PM (AzW6q)

386 or they are the Pimps we're the whores.

and look no one wants an old whore around.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 06:07 PM (eaoOY)

387 I believe this has more to do with the courts and judges than other institutions.

Posted by: White Helments Productions at April 25, 2018 06:07 PM (573j3)

388 I think I just figured out how our government is going to solve the unfunded SS obligation problem...
Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 25, 2018 06:04 PM (wwd4n)

...

There's no sense nationalizing everyone's 401k accounts if we're going to let them hang around and spend half of it.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2018 06:07 PM (yL25O)

389 We saw you steal that potato from your garden.

Posted by: Merseyside P.D. at April 25, 2018 06:07 PM (FLifI)

390 I notice NO Brits are physically challenging this decision of Alder Hey's J Mengele Department of Free Healthcare Allocation!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 25, 2018 06:07 PM (n9EOP)

391 I think I just figured out how our government is going to solve the unfunded SS obligation problem..."

I've already thought of that as a great way to solve the Public Pension's crisis in states such as Illinois and New York.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2018 06:07 PM (k1TUh)

392 Newsbusters reports the major networks spent an average of 28 minutes on the new Royal baby, zero on the dying baby.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Disgusting. That's why I posted above how I wish someone in the royal family would have the courage to speak up. At the very least, the Queen could hold an interview and publicly call them a bunch of murderous wankers.

Posted by: Cheri at April 25, 2018 06:08 PM (oiNtH)

393 The only interest I have in that wedding is placing bets on how soon before they divorce.
_______________

Just going by Ms. Sparkle's history, that will be the day she meets a man who she thinks can do more for her.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 25, 2018 05:59 PM (fqUgw)

I could not deal with all the curtsies, and all the other crap she'll have to do. Not just with the Queen, but anyone who outranks her...like Kate. Or Wills. As an American, I couldn't deal with it.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 06:08 PM (feFsi)

394 We saw you steal that potato from your garden.
Posted by: Merseyside P.D. at April 25, 2018 06:07 PM (FLifI)

Did you get permission to plant that garden?

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2018 06:08 PM (eaoOY)

395 NHS = NICE

Posted by: George LeS at April 25, 2018 06:08 PM (/ki+X)

396 Huh.

If the Nazis had just been patient and played parcheesi for 78 years,

instead of attacking Britain with the whole war thing-

They would've won.

Or at least had a delightfully polite, tea drinking, scone snarfing, baby-killing ally across the Channel.

It's a funny old world, ain't it?

Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2018 06:09 PM (9q7Dl)

397 Could this be a City of London thing versus the rest of England thing?

Posted by: White Helments Productions at April 25, 2018 06:03 PM (573j3)
Before they decided that multi-culty was awesome, London traditionally was the more freedom loving space. It was the opposite of Paris vs France. Traditionally, Londoners enjoyed more freedoms, probably because if a peasant made it to London and stayed for a year and a day he was no longer tied to his liege lord. London was thought of as "free," even before the countryside shed feudalism.

They've become what they shed before the rest of Europe shed it, the complete subjugation by the state. The Barons who forced the signing of the Magna Carta are rioting in their graves.
They've allowed the state to have divine right to rule, there is no other reason to respect such a decision.

Posted by: dagny at April 25, 2018 06:10 PM (ahV/f)

398 There's a blogger called Maxedout Mama that was ill and in a vegetative state for some time. Her husband ran interference with doctors that wanted to pull the plug on her. She did come out of it and recovered fully. Interestingly, her IQ was several points higher after she recovers. The doctors don't understand "brain death" as well as they think they do.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 25, 2018 06:10 PM (Lqy/e)

399 Disgusting. That's why I posted above how I wish someone in the royal family would have the courage to speak up. At the very least, the Queen could hold an interview and publicly call them a bunch of murderous wankers.
Posted by: Cheri at April 25, 2018 06:08 PM (oiNtH)

Nope, it is in their rulebook to stay neutral, to not wade in. They said nothing on Brexit either. Or the Muslim gangs or Rottherham. It's just not done, lovey.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 06:10 PM (feFsi)

400 I'm not a twatterer, but would someone mind asking the merseyside po-po whether the boot stomping on the (infant) human face forever is comfy?

Posted by: Rather Not at April 25, 2018 06:10 PM (oPogG)

401 And honestly, I don't think the Royals care. Truly, I don't.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 06:11 PM (feFsi)

402 When you want the government to give you "free" healthcare, they get to decide what's cost-worthy. Fine.

But nothing but power madness can explain why you won't let them seek care with non-government funds.

And nothing but sheer evil explains why the parents can't take the babies home. Remember? They denied Charlie Gard care and mandated his death but they wouldn't let the parents take him home to die, not even when they surrendered their passports. Same thing with Alfie.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 25, 2018 06:12 PM (0jtPF)

403 Why are we surprised, socialized medicine is liberal speakezze for rationed healthcare, it's not free but you wait on lists hoping you don't die before your name comes up. A couple years ago I read a story out of England where a young man survived brain cancer surgery only to die because the nurses denied him water so his cause of death was dehydration. He called 911 begging them to come and give him water, when the cops showed up the nurses said he was just a serial whiner.

Posted by: Rose at April 25, 2018 06:12 PM (+VCSF)

404 Baby steps man,baby steps....denied by cringe worth c*nts

Posted by: saf at April 25, 2018 06:13 PM (5IHGB)

405 Remember that the Obama administration tried this shit with Breast Cancer screening and all hell broke loose.

Yeah, they were too obvious about it.

They have definitely implemented rules for treatment of seniors that not so softly "nudges" doctors to put them on palliative care vs. treatment, hold off on tests so they don't find things that would need to be treated, etc. These are still in place.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2018 05:41 PM (W+vEI)

Having been a health care professional, I can say with certainty that when research and science determines that a current recommendation that the gov. went all out to "educate' everyone was mandatory or you will die, is no longer considered required , the government is the last one to finally agree to give up their power hold on the recommendation.

When the recommendation that mammagrams were not warranted yearly for low risk women, the public went apeshit and used it as proof that the Gov. now wants to kill you off.

The moral of the story is to not listen to recommendations from the Gov. Listen to recommendations from your MD. Not from your health insurer, not from your next door neighbor, not from some politician.

Mammograms are absolutely, positively overused and done by rote instead of by best practice for an individual patient. Same with colonoscopy.
Same with a lot of testing.

On the reverse side, people with family history of diabetes should be tested in their twenties and then periodically. Not when they turn fifty. Blood pressure should be checked and can be checked easily at home and should be done on women well before menopause.

So much medical testing and monitoring is done out of fear of lawsuits, and not based on science.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 25, 2018 06:15 PM (sIYDG)

406 So the state has divine right after all, huh socialists?

You shed a lot of blood. Our revolution was a continuation of yours to be rid of the divine right of kings and now you've done a 360 and turned your government into a tyranny. All that worrying about the death that would ensue if Britain had something similar to the terror? You have the opposite, a complete surrender to authority at their whim. Now you're so weak and pathetic you cannot even fight.

Idiots. Wankers. Oafs.

Posted by: dagny at April 25, 2018 06:15 PM (ahV/f)

407 Tanner Boyle: "They're not 'exercising mercy' or 'following the rules'.

They're making a point."

True. But think again about the "following the rules" bit. England. Not that far removed from WWII Nazism. The collective guilt of following orders blindly.

It's stunning that any would justify with such rationalization. Their educational system and social order is much more f*cked than I thought and even worse than our own.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 25, 2018 06:17 PM (H8S+R)

408 For years I have been saying that the UK is the US's Ghost of Christmas Future. Which will become the Ghost of Christmas Present if the progs get their way.

Posted by: Craig Pirrong at April 25, 2018 06:22 PM (wK7bC)

409 Thirty mostly unarmed British cops at the front door. Man, I could make it really suck to be them really fast.

"They were just doing their job!" Yeah, so were all the nice young Germans my great uncle had to drop bombs on, or the charming Japanese teens my other great uncle had to Willie Pete out of caves on Okinawa.

In short, fuck em.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at April 25, 2018 06:37 PM (aDVrz)

410 I've never been as proud as I am of the Founders for seeing the writing on the wall and leaving those blood-thirsty miscreants behind.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at April 25, 2018 06:44 PM (ihzOe)

411 The Brits may be lily-livered, but the least I could do across the pond was sign the petition for the Brit PM to get involved. That, and pray, especially pray.

http://bit.ly/2Jsxout

Posted by: SandyCheeks at April 25, 2018 06:49 PM (ihzOe)

412 Newsbusters reports the major networks spent an average of 28 minutes on the new Royal baby, zero on the dying baby.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Disgusting. That's why I posted above how I wish someone in the royal family would have the courage to speak up. At the very least, the Queen could hold an interview and publicly call them a bunch of murderous wankers.
Posted by: Cheri at April 25, 2018 06:08 PM (oiNtH)

Pish tosh. On a recent visit to Africa, Prince Wills chided them for overpopulation, which taxes wildlife habitats.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at April 25, 2018 06:52 PM (ihzOe)

413 You can bet your ass that if Alfie were instead Muhammad or Walid he'd be on the first flight out.

Posted by: sestamibi at April 25, 2018 07:02 PM (WusEB)

414 It's certainly easier if you refer to him as "it".

Posted by: steve walsh at April 25, 2018 07:11 PM (uR9Yf)

415 30 "If lizard people aliens had invaded earth after WWII and attained the upper echelons of power to prep for an invasion, what would they be doing differently?"

I have wondered about this possibility, so you're not alone, Jukin.

Seriously, this may be the best explanation for the sheer lunacy of today's world.

Posted by: BoyNsea at April 25, 2018 07:13 PM (Kh5Q4)

416 I'm agnostic. I started tilting with little Charlie Gard. Alfie-- bless his soul-- ... . Now I lay me down to sleep... .

Posted by: Marica at April 25, 2018 07:38 PM (uJ5HS)

417 Can my dad and his brother Larry get a rebate for risking their asses as combat soldiers in France now?

Posted by: TexasJew at April 25, 2018 08:55 PM (uCQCw)

418 Pope Francis should have heeded the example of St.JP2 who knew that reintubation for his recurrent urosepsis in the setting of end-stage Parkinson's would only prolong his own suffering, opted at the end to wave off the anesthesiologist who was going to intimate him and just die a Holy and Natural death, Allie, who is blind, deaf, quadriplegic,can't wake up, can't understand language, or enjoy food, should be in hospice care. The Rime hospital has NO treatments except continued life support which is futile.

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at April 25, 2018 09:54 PM (4vuMP)

419 Great Britain great no more.

Posted by: Daniel at April 26, 2018 12:27 AM (r7jLD)

420 I'm no Internet whiz, but activists outside the UK should try to post tweets that upset the UK thought police and make them look like they're coming from the UK, just so they'd waste time chasing phantom leads.

Posted by: Cato at April 26, 2018 02:42 AM (wX++C)

421 I'm unable to reach the Merseyside Police site. Apparently its a malicious hate site.

Posted by: Jay at April 26, 2018 12:33 PM (y1HVI)

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