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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | CNN: Broward County Sheriff's Deputies Didn't Enter School to Stop ShooterYup, good guys with guns can't stop a shooter. Especially when all they do is take cover behind their vehicles. When Coral Springs police officers arrived at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14 in the midst of the school shooting crisis, many officers were surprised to find not only that Broward County Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson, the armed school resource officer, had not entered the building, but that three other Broward County Sheriff's deputies were also outside the school and had not entered, Coral Springs sources tell CNN. The deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles, the sources said, and not one of them had gone into the school.It's just more proof that it's crazy to want your own gun to defend your own body.
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Disgusting
Posted by: rammajamma at February 23, 2018 07:38 PM (e3JIL) 2
*doesn't know where to go*
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 23, 2018 07:40 PM (4ErVI) Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2018 07:40 PM (Mouru) Posted by: Broward County's Finest at February 23, 2018 07:42 PM (Mouru) 5
The important thing is all the cops got to go home safely.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 23, 2018 07:42 PM (pvjTE) 6
Peter Wang and his JROTC comrades ran towards the sound of gunfire to save their classmates.
Scot Peterson sheltered in place while they and fourteen others died. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 23, 2018 07:42 PM (z13UD) 7
The Cowards of Broward.
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2018 07:42 PM (lKs2v) Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 07:43 PM (TXMX/) 9
I seem to remember one student being interviewed that if the coach that was killed had a firearm, he would have been able to stop Cruz instead of shielding students with his body.
Posted by: Old Blue at February 23, 2018 07:43 PM (gEvQ8) 10
Columbine all over again...setting up a perimeter of cowards!
Posted by: Tentotwo at February 23, 2018 07:43 PM (yhf6w) 11
I wonder where they'll put the statue commemorating the bravery of the Broward County cops.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2018 07:43 PM (Mouru) 12
Of historical note.......Today is the 8th anniversary of David Benke, mathematics teacher at Deer Creek Middle School in Littleton, Colorado tackling, disarming and holding down and active shooter who had shot several students ( all survived their wounds).
Posted by: Pepe The Artist at February 23, 2018 07:45 PM (yCZVl) 13
I seem to remember one student being interviewed that if the coach that was killed had a firearm, he would have been able to stop Cruz instead of shielding students with his body.
Posted by: Old Blue at February 23, 2018 07:43 PM (gEvQ IIRC the coach owned a gun, just wasn't allowed to bring it to school. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 07:45 PM (TXMX/) 14
No pensions were injured during this episode of bravery...all home safely doing the family thing.
Posted by: Tentotwo at February 23, 2018 07:45 PM (yhf6w) Posted by: The Broward County Coward at February 23, 2018 07:45 PM (BwJGV) 16
Everyone up and down the line failed, yet it's the guns fault.
No matter how many branches of government fail, the solution is always "let's take guns away from law-abiding citizens." Funny that. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2018 07:45 PM (Mouru) 17
Another thing I seem to remember is someone saying that if a drunk driver kills someone, they always blame the driver. Or if a suicide bomber goes blooey, they blame the bomber or Islam, but if a shooter goes on a rampage, they blame the gun. I'm kind of paraphrasing here but you get my drift.
Posted by: Old Blue at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM (gEvQ8) 18
What's important is that they went home safe at the end of their shift.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM (EUMr7) 19
We should start arming the parents and posting them at the school, I'll bet they go in.
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM (4e+hS) 20
IIRC the coach owned a gun, just wasn't allowed to bring it to school.
Well, of course not. There was a sign outside that said GUN FREE ZONE. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM (Mouru) 21
3rd time tonight
It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine They might, but not a requirement. Its not my call just saying what I am told or read. Wish it wasn't so but your life protection isn't anyones job but yours. Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd) 22
from this morning ... pic of incredulous Trump saying
"They think I'm Hitler -- And they want me to take their guns" Posted by: illiniwek at February 23, 2018 07:47 PM (bT8Z4) Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 23, 2018 07:47 PM (EUMr7) 24
Oh God, it just keeps getting worse.
These people should be immediately fired. Sorry, but if you can't do your job, you need to go. Police officers are fully aware of what they've signed on for. Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at February 23, 2018 07:47 PM (xGaZm) 25
Knowing what we know now about 4 Broward cowards, why isn't the Sheriff also being called a coward after his rant at Dana Loesch?
Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 07:47 PM (TXMX/) 26
In spite of the FBI, cops and school completely fucking everything up it's all the guns and NRA's fault Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 07:47 PM (SiINZ) 27
21 3rd time tonight
It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine They might, but not a requirement. Its not my call just saying what I am told or read. Wish it wasn't so but your life protection isn't anyones job but yours. Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd) And yet, they wish to take MY guns away... Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2018 07:48 PM (NgKpN) 28
3rd time tonight It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine It's their job to take photos of the bodies. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2018 07:48 PM (IqV8l) 29
>>>It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine
It's to raise revenue for the municipality and drink stolen free coffee from the local Stop Rob. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 23, 2018 07:48 PM (EUMr7) 30
Rick Scott demands accountability...from NRA.
Posted by: Tentotwo at February 23, 2018 07:49 PM (yhf6w) 31
Fuck.
Just...fuck. I picked the wrong week to quit drinking. Oh wait. No I didn't. *sips bourbon* Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 23, 2018 07:49 PM (IMacf) 32
I'd like to think my local PD is more Coral Springs than Broward County, but how am I to be certain when trouble comes for me?
So I'm now even more cemented into the position that you will take the 2nd Amendment, as written and intended, from my cold, dead hands. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 23, 2018 07:49 PM (H8S+R) 33
In most mass shootings, the first sign of active resistance to the shooter tends to lead them toward suicide.
The police officers outnumbered the perpetrator. And they were still afraid to go inside to save lives. The police aren't there to protect anyone. They're there to document the pools of blood on the floor and to take the suspect to jail. This is why we have to train and defend ourselves. Waiting for someone else to do it is suicidal. Posted by: Gork at February 23, 2018 07:49 PM (aKDSJ) 34
To recap:
We're not supposed to have our own guns because the police will protect us. But the evidence indicates that we can't count on the police to protect us. So what are we supposed to do, die with dignity? Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 07:49 PM (sdi6R) 35
Knowing what we know now about 4 Broward cowards, why isn't the Sheriff also being called a coward after his rant at Dana Loesch?
Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 07:47 PM (TXMX/) Because he's a big lefty? Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 07:49 PM (SiINZ) 36
Disgusting.
I hope these men are ashamed for the rest of their miserable lives. They should all go home and drink themselves to death. Posted by: navybrat at February 23, 2018 07:49 PM (w7KSn) 37
The Cowards of Broward.
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2018 07:42 PM (lKs2v) I think Ace's excerpt is from the same article I posted in prior thread. If it wasn't for Coral Springs being pissed off, I don't think we'd know this. It has been almost 10 whole days. Makes me think Coral Springs finally went to the press, since the press didn't come to them. Seems the Cowards Of Broward also have no honor. Unbelievable report. Just stunning. Those poor, poor kids. Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 23, 2018 07:49 PM (hLB6Q) 38
Maybe CNN can hold a town hall full of school children with the SRO and Broward County Sheriff and deputies on the panel to take questions!
Posted by: Malcolm Tent, Commentor at February 23, 2018 07:49 PM (JdioD) 39
An armed deputy cowering is safety is not "a good guy with a gun." If anything, this highlights the need for armed citizens, not against it. When you can't count on the cops to save your bacon, you've got nothing to rely on except yourself.
Period, full stop. Posted by: Qoheleth at February 23, 2018 07:50 PM (iIzG7) 40
As if this is like important. Dude we got Hertz and FedEx to cut their relationship with the NRA. That's important!!!!!
Posted by: Leftists Everywhere at February 23, 2018 07:50 PM (6nRrz) 41
Despicable cowards.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 23, 2018 07:50 PM (87EdW) 42
>>>It's their job to take photos of the bodies.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2018 07:48 PM (IqV8l) I actually don't disagree with this. They're society's janitors, and need put back in that place.Nationwide Constitutional Carry."911. What's you're emergency?""You guys have spatulas, right?" Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 23, 2018 07:51 PM (EUMr7) 43
I'm all cussed out.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 07:51 PM (NWiLs) 44
Hoo-boy! I guess we know why the Sheriff said yesterday that they may never release the video that they used to confirm the SRO was on campus, but remained outside, during the shooting.
Didn't want to show that *all* of them were outside. Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2018 07:51 PM (W+vEI) 45
The police aren't there to protect anyone. They're there to document the pools of blood on the floor and to take the suspect to jail.
WE HAVE TAPE MEASURES!!! Posted by: Broward County's Finest at February 23, 2018 07:51 PM (Mouru) 46
There was some discussion of insurrection earlier.
Well, if these deputies pulled this shit in my home county, there'd be an insurrection. I'm serious. Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 07:51 PM (398bZ) 47
I kind of have a theory here. If Cruz had had all these interactions with the cops before 18, bought the gun just as he turned 18, then more interactions after, then all his records had been sealed because juvenile. The interactions after wouldn't have made a difference, he just may not have been able to purchase any more firearms. But by then the horse had left the barn.
Posted by: Old Blue at February 23, 2018 07:51 PM (gEvQ8) 48
34 To recap:
We're not supposed to have our own guns because the police will protect us. But the evidence indicates that we can't count on the police to protect us. So what are we supposed to do, die with dignity? Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 07:49 PM (sdi6R) The Left celebrates Victims... they have an entire hierarchy of victimhood... Thus, they want you to be a victim too... so you fit into 'their' world. /spit Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2018 07:51 PM (NgKpN) 49
19 We should start arming the parents and posting them at the school, I'll bet they go in.
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM (4e+hS) ^^This. Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 07:51 PM (sdi6R) 50
So what are we supposed to do, die with dignity? Posted by: rickl No, once guns are banned we will achieve immortality. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2018 07:51 PM (IqV8l) Posted by: Chase at February 23, 2018 07:51 PM (RbV5J) 52
They will get their full pensions.
They will never see the inside of a prison cell. Conservatives will be blamed for their actions. Just like FBI fascist pigs related to the Trump coup attempt. Just like Lois Lerner and her henchmen. Just like Hillary. They are Democrats. They are govt employees. They are untouchable. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 07:52 PM (6nRrz) 53
Ace is linking Jake Squat to pee Tapper?
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at February 23, 2018 07:52 PM (RwnDB) Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 23, 2018 07:52 PM (7LY+6) 55
Can't wait to see POTUS tweets about this
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 07:52 PM (33FvV) 56
So will the Bank of Omaha, Enterprise, MetLife, Hertz, Symantec, Chubb, Avis and Wyndham hotels cuts ties with Broward County? Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 07:52 PM (SiINZ) 57
Peter Wang and his JROTC comrades ran towards the sound of gunfire to save their classmates.
----- The heroism and fast thinking of the JROTC cannot be over stated especially considering what the Broward Sheriff's didn't do. I'm so incredibly proud of these kids. I don't have any right to it but I just think they were amazing. Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (U+nHb) Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Commentor...now with Black Panther Review at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (xJa6I) Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (7LY+6) 60
21 3rd time tonight
It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine Why? Why? This is an extreme circumstance, the most obvious time to charge in. Just what is their job then? Why even carry weapons? Shit, firefighters are apparently far more Marine than your friendly neighborhood police officer. Gaaah! *sips* Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (IMacf) 61
The pain truth is liberals don't give a fuck about any of this. Whether cops went in or didn't is meaningless. Where 1 or 17 or 170 kids got shot means nothing.
Their one and only goal is to disarm the public. Period. Stop. End of sentence. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (6nRrz) Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (7LY+6) 63
If Cruz had been unarmed and selling loosies, these brave heroes would have rushed in.
As is, he was just shooting children and teachers, best to secure the perimeter first to contain the situation. Posted by: Malcolm Tent, Commentor at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (JdioD) 64
BTW, Broward County Sheriff's Department apparently failed in another way.
Cruz escaped. No one seems to have set up a perimeter to try and contain things. Imagine if Cruz had another gun stashed away. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (z13UD) 65
Well, we wouldn't have gone to the White House even if we were invited.
Posted by: Broward County's Finest at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (Mouru) 66
So what are we supposed to do, die with dignity?
Posted by: rickl No, once guns are banned we will achieve immortality. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2018 07:51 PM (IqV8l) Well... you'll also have to take away Tax cuts, which will kill MILLIONS of people this year according to the Left... /spit Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (NgKpN) 67
46. Yep. This orchestra of incompetence, this buffet of bullshit, this chorus of cowardice - THIS is how you get death squads.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 07:54 PM (fA1SL) 68
We Wuz Brave and Shit!
Posted by: Commies of Dark Blue Counties at February 23, 2018 07:54 PM (g4lFK) 69
>>>I'm so incredibly proud of these kids. I don't have any right to it but I just think they were amazing.
They were men. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 23, 2018 07:54 PM (EUMr7) 70
At the very least they could have gone in and shot at the lockers just to distract the kid's attention.
Posted by: Tami Commenter at February 23, 2018 07:54 PM (Enq6K) 71
the lessons of Columbine...wasted. Cops, don't wait for backup with an active shooter, go fucking charge in.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 07:54 PM (V3U1L) 72
How bad is the department when one guy can't even shame himself into acting?
Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 23, 2018 07:54 PM (SkuXa) 73
As for the deputies they seem to share the same ethos as Democrat -educators-Ive interacted w/ on teh Twtterzzz. Not my job, not my problem.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at February 23, 2018 07:54 PM (O9JR8) 74
So will the Bank of Omaha, Enterprise, MetLife, Hertz, Symantec, Chubb, Avis and Wyndham hotels cuts ties with Broward County?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 07:52 PM (SiINZ) ____ That would be something conservatives should start tweeting. If cons could ever get as organized as the left in doing stuff like that. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 07:54 PM (6nRrz) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 07:55 PM (PPHL6) 76
That chief Israel of Broward County should be ashamed of himself and his police officers. Kudos to Coral Springs police for actually entering the building.
Posted by: Jamiestitcher62@aol.com at February 23, 2018 07:55 PM (EVJ0V) 77
Knowing what we know now about 4 Broward cowards, why isn't the Sheriff also being called a coward after his rant at Dana Loesch?
Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 07:47 PM (TXMX/) He is here. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 23, 2018 07:55 PM (wB8Tg) 78
21 3rd time tonight
It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine That wasn't the choice to be made. No one has suggested that the deputies charge in like Marines. Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 07:55 PM (398bZ) 79
Brave Sir Robin just called to say that he thinks these deputies need to grow a spine.
Posted by: Qoheleth at February 23, 2018 07:55 PM (iIzG7) 80
Well, better them than us.
Posted by: Broward County's Finest at February 23, 2018 07:55 PM (Mouru) 81
The Right Wing Deff Quads will never find us via our IMDB pages.
Posted by: Commies of Dark Blue Counties at February 23, 2018 07:55 PM (g4lFK) 82
Report at CTH that local gangs quickly figured out that Broward school system/P.D. had a monthly "not to exceed" quota for arrests of students in order to keep Federal funding, and that there would be no further arrests whatsoever once the monthly quota was reached. So they would 1. Use students to commit felonies, 2. Wait for the quota, 3. Utterly get away with the crime. Gangs ran rampant and no fucks were given.
The Broward deputies were tasked with concealing crimes, not acting on them. Remaining in the parking lot was consistent with what they had been trained and conditioned to do regarding crimes at county schools. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 23, 2018 07:55 PM (cnrwJ) 83
Was this story first released by Tapper? I thought I saw that online. If so, well, reluctant kudos to him. If not, screw him and that stupid Townhall shit show.
Regardless, screw that stupid CNN shit show. Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2018 07:55 PM (U+nHb) 84
>>> don't wait for backup with an active shooter, go fucking charge in.
Put out rounds. When there's lead in the air, there's hope. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 23, 2018 07:55 PM (EUMr7) 85
The Drab Four Cowards of Broward
Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2018 07:56 PM (yGZhu) 86
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The police aren't there to protect anyone" They're there only to pick up the brass and cigarette butts? Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2018 07:56 PM (nisXv) 87
man what an insult to all 17 intelligence agencies. and that's the true tragedy. sort of like islamaphob...er rational responses to muslim actions...is the true tragedy of any terror attack (well, until the next generation of european kids wakes up and starts fighting back because then that's the kind of terror the upper class is going to realize is not who we are).
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 07:56 PM (V3U1L) 88
BTW, Broward County Sheriff's Department apparently failed in another way.
Cruz escaped. No one seems to have set up a perimeter to try and contain things. Imagine if Cruz had another gun stashed away. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (z13UD) Barney Fife laughs at them Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 07:56 PM (SiINZ) 89
So I heard that the ROTC kids had Kevlar something. I didn't hear what. Was it vests? they said they built a shield in front of the kids? Anyone hear that?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 07:56 PM (70cRb) 90
Kind of explains the remarks from the Sheriff dismissing the relevance of which jurisdiction first entered the school the other day at the press conference when questioned about it.
Posted by: Tentotwo at February 23, 2018 07:56 PM (yhf6w) 91
Damn. My MiL evening whine got willowed.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 07:56 PM (JxYR+) 92
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In spite of the FBI, cops and school completely fucking everything up it's all the guns and NRA's fault Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 07:47 PM (SiINZ) Well...ummm...you see...Nikolas Cruz is not really a real person, but a bunch of sentient firearms which banded together, stacked themselves up in the shape of a person put on cheap clothes and a Halloween mask. I mean, what kind of a person has a name like Nikolas Cruz, come on, they don't even use the letter "k" in Spanish. Clearly we should ban guns because the massacre was carried out by what is obviously a pile of sentient guns and ammo. Posted by: Gun Grabbers doing Mental Gymnastics at February 23, 2018 07:57 PM (BwJGV) 93
84 >>> don't wait for backup with an active shooter, go fucking charge in.
Put out rounds. When there's lead in the air, there's hope. --------------------- as my main homie dick marcinko probably said...the person doing all the shooting is probably deaf as fuck and can't hear you anyway so no need to be all sneaky either. Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 07:57 PM (V3U1L) 94
Wait for backup.
Can't do anything until we have overwhelming force. SWAT will arrive in twenty to thirty minutes. Let them handle it. It is what they are trained to do. Posted by: Innocent Bystander at February 23, 2018 07:57 PM (roQNm) 95
This is literally making me sick. The SRO on scene runs away, and then three other Broward Sheriff's deputies show up on the scene only to cower with the other deputy. Meanwhile an active shooter is murdering 17 kids. They should all go home and eat their service weapons.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 07:58 PM (NWiLs) 96
So what happened?
Did the five agree that Scot Peterson would take the fall? Because remember, Israel said nothing about all 4 being crouched behind vehicles. In fact, he said there were only 2 other guys. So the story was fabricated. From the number of people, to their locations. What the hell was going on? Sounds like they made up a cover story, and ran with it for 9 days...until Coral Springs blew the whistle. Seriously, I think Coral Springs got fed up and decided to tell the true story. I always hate the press, but what a dereliction of duty this is. So busy rushing to their talking points and agendas, never did any real journalistic work. 9 long days the story was wrong...half-baked. Bellies of snakes. Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 23, 2018 07:58 PM (hLB6Q) 97
That would be something conservatives should start tweeting. If cons could ever get as organized as the left in doing stuff like that.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 07:54 PM (6nRrz) Not everyone is pleased by the stand these companies are taking. Under First National Bank's Twitter account, some people expressed disappointment on the decision and threats to stop using their service. Boycott every motherfreaking one of them. Let's see how SJW they are when the money starts walking out the door Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 07:58 PM (SiINZ) 98
Oh boy. Tucker is going to town on this right now.
Posted by: Jamiestitcher62@aol.com at February 23, 2018 07:58 PM (EVJ0V) 99
BTW, Broward County Sheriff's Department apparently failed in another way.
Cruz escaped. No one seems to have set up a perimeter to try and contain things. Imagine if Cruz had another gun stashed away. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (z13UD) I think it was Fox that reported the Cruz killer left the school and grabbed a drink (and perhaps a sammich) at Micky D's or something after the blood bath. That's cold. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 07:58 PM (JxYR+) 100
Trump will get authorization and money to build the 1800 mile wall on the southern border and use 200-300 miles to wall off the 20 to 30 commie counties as well.
Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 07:58 PM (g4lFK) Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 07:58 PM (8iiMU) 102
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 23, 2018 07:53 PM (z13UD)
Calling them cowards is an understatement. Posted by: Surfperch at February 23, 2018 07:58 PM (BwJGV) 103
Police carry weapons to protect themselves first.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 07:58 PM (aC6Sd) 104
I'm curious - how much backup do they claim they were waiting for?
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2018 07:59 PM (Sfs6o) 105
...and you're a deputy, and you're a deputy, and YOU'RE a deputy!
Posted by: Oprah at February 23, 2018 07:59 PM (ayEGB) 106
The Left celebrates Victims... they have an entire hierarchy of victimhood...
Thus, they want you to be a victim too... so you fit into 'their' world. /spit Posted by: Don Q. F their world. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2018 07:59 PM (sMMcg) 107
I'm on the side that believes gun fire toward the shooter A) could kill him B) distract him from shooting kids or teachers. The whole story is disgraceful. Those Broward sheriffs are an embarrassment to law enforcement.
Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2018 07:59 PM (U+nHb) 108
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So I heard that the ROTC kids had Kevlar something. I didn't hear what. Was it vests? they said they built a shield in front of the kids? Anyone hear that? I did. I think they helped direct a bunch of kids into a classroom and used sheets? of Kevlar to build a wall in front of the kids. Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2018 07:59 PM (nisXv) Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2018 08:00 PM (0tfLf) 110
Doesn't matter. The MSM has their narrative. this is the NRA's fault. And Trump's.
Posted by: FROMNJ at February 23, 2018 08:00 PM (sCjDS) 111
My MiL is upstairs watching her precious CNN.
What a night. Watched her and her sister eat dinner in the assisted living dining room from 5:30 to after 7:00. I was praying for a meteor to hit the building. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:00 PM (JxYR+) 112
But Rick Scott will ban guns from millions of Floridians. So it's all good.
FUCK THAT GUY IN PARTICULAR Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 08:00 PM (6nRrz) 113
and, from the minimal research I've done, it seems like broward was in on the whole new hot law enforcement tactic of "don't report violence dark kids because racism and we're really trying to equalize results of policing by overcompensating against crackers" made famous by "found with stolen goods and items lost in a burglary but this is a school matter, no need for police" saint travyon.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 08:00 PM (V3U1L) Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 23, 2018 08:00 PM (EUMr7) 115
They are Democrats. They are govt employees. They are untouchable.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 07:52 PM (6nRrz) Until they aren't. They will rue that day. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 08:00 PM (TXMX/) 116
So what are we supposed to do, die with dignity?
Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 07:49 PM (sdi6R) Don't worry, after you're dead, we'll bring in illegal aliens to raise your kids. Posted by: The Left at February 23, 2018 08:00 PM (qmQBW) 117
101 Just confirms that 'Protect and Serve' is sometimes just bullshit.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 07:58 PM (8iiMU) It's propaganda, nothing more. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:01 PM (NWiLs) 118
Just curious then, what is the point of the SRO living on campus?
If it's to be close by nearly 24x7, that would assume that he intends to, you know, actually do something when something comes up. If he just waits for other cops to arrive, what's the point of him being stationed there onsite day *and* night? Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2018 08:01 PM (W+vEI) 119
101 Just confirms that 'Protect and Serve' is sometimes just bullshit.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 07:58 PM (8iiMU) __ Sometimes? Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 08:01 PM (6nRrz) 120
Jane,
More... Two men in a pub. One says' My MiL is an angel. The other says, You're lucky...mine's still alive. Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2018 08:01 PM (0tfLf) 121
I have no doubt a squad of Marines or Army roll up to a school with a active shooter they would not sit and wait it out.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 08:01 PM (aC6Sd) 122
I did. I think they helped direct a bunch of kids into a classroom and used sheets? of Kevlar to build a wall in front of the kids. Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2018 07:59 PM (nisXv) I heard one of them said 'hey. thats made of kevlar!"and they built it. What was? huh. Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 08:01 PM (70cRb) 123
hard to defend this. I assume there were rules of engaegment , none which would make sense , except to survival of those that were supposed to protect the kids.
Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 08:01 PM (Z8j2x) 124
so,kenny rogers has to have a song in here somewhere - cowards of broward county?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:01 PM (MTjB1) 125
Rick Scott can talk all he wants, I'd be shocked if anything makes it through the legislature now. This shit show was fucked from top to bottom and no law can change that.
Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (SkuXa) 126
After Columbine, police departments abandoned the idea of waiting outside when there's an active shooter. Training changed to entering immediately and engaging the shooter.
That's what I thought, anyway. Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (398bZ) 127
Let's totally trust Broward County to demolish the building where the shooting took place without a complete investigation. Sounds legit!
Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (g4lFK) 128
All four deputies got their periods at the same time and suffered debilitating cramps.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (NWiLs) 129
44 Hoo-boy! I guess we know why the Sheriff said yesterday that they may never release the video that they used to confirm the SRO was on campus, but remained outside, during the shooting.
Didn't want to show that *all* of them were outside. Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2018 07:51 PM (W+vEI) Discovery is a B I T C H. Posted by: Fox2! at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (brIR5) 130
>>> So I heard that the ROTC kids had Kevlar something. I didn't hear what. Was it vests? they said they built a shield in front of the kids? Anyone hear that? Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 07:56 PM (70cRb)
NRA donated to the school kevlar curtains, that were used to shield some students in case they got fired on. https://tinyurl.com/y7x3dr6v Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (yGZhu) 131
I think yellow curs might better fit than cowards.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (z13UD) 132
Imagine being the Sheriff of Coward County right now.
Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (OnpLR) 133
125 Rick Scott can talk all he wants, I'd be shocked if anything makes it through the legislature now. This shit show was fucked from top to bottom and no law can change that.
Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (SkuXa) ____ I can help out. Posted by: Governor Executive Order that No Florida Judge Would Dare Overturn at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (6nRrz) 134
Yes, great point, how the eff does this kid walk to a McDonald's and get past all the Broward Cowards, standing outside.
I don't get any of this. Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (U+nHb) 135
I heard one of them said 'hey. thats made of kevlar!"and they built it. What was? huh.
No clue. The thing I read was kinda sketchy with details, so maybe it's BS. Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (nisXv) 136
>>> Training changed to entering immediately and engaging the shooter.
Later revised to "enjoying the overtime". Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (EUMr7) Posted by: tu3031 at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (O5Q3r) 138
hard to defend this. I assume there were rules of engaegment , none which would make sense , except to survival of those that were supposed to protect the kids.
Posted by: willow at February then why keep trying? no one has had similar rules since columbine. police have routinely discussed how procedure is to move towards and take out shooter at recent shooting events. Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (MTjB1) 139
We watched excerpts of Jake Tapped Out's circus, with the mob of "grieving" students calling Dana Loesch a "c*nt", yelling, "Burn her!" and "Murderer!" in our hotel room last night.
She said she was lucky to get out. I can't express how much I loathe all things MFM. CNN and MSDNC especially. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (JxYR+) 140
So I heard that the ROTC kids had Kevlar something. I didn't hear what. Was it vests? they said they built a shield in front of the kids? Anyone hear that?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 07:56 PM (70cRb) It was a kevlar blanket. Posted by: Bill R. at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (IuYIh) 141
How soon until New York, New Jersey, California, Maryland bar under 21 years old from purchasing firearms?
A week? Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (aC6Sd) 142
Jane...
I hope Donald Trump doesn't deport my MiL. She lives at 1221 Holly Lane in LA. Its the blue and white house on the corner. She drives a green Honda and usually gets home about 5:30 every day from her job that she got using fake papers after her visa ran out five years ago. Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (0tfLf) 143
132 Imagine being the Sheriff of Coward County right now.
Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (OnpLR) My bet is he cares only to the extent this might affect his career. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (NWiLs) Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (WXasw) Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (C4l4A) 146
Those four deputies & their sheriff need to atone for their conduct. It need not be publicly. But it should be done.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (fA1SL) 147
105 ...and you're a deputy, and you're a deputy, and YOU'RE a deputy!
Posted by: Oprah at February 23, 2018 07:59 PM (ayEGB) Really? Cool. I AM THE LAW! Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Commentor...now with Black Panther Review at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (xJa6I) 148
89 So I heard that the ROTC kids had Kevlar something. I didn't hear what. Was it vests? they said they built a shield in front of the kids? Anyone hear that?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 07:56 PM (70cRb) Here's a video interview of two young ROTC HEROES who protected the other students with kevlar mats: https://tinyurl.com/yd6fabyv They have bigger stones than the cowards who were paid to protect them. Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (SGpFT) 149
132 Imagine being the Sheriff of Coward County right now.
Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (OnpLR) _____ I doubt any of this will have much of an impact. CNN is reporting this cuz they have to. But by tomorrow morning it will be back to evil NRA and you will never hear of it again. Posted by: Governor Executive Order that No Florida Judge Would Dare Overturn at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (6nRrz) 150
So if the police don't have to intervene what are they willing to do in these situations? Because we need to plan accordingly. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (PPHL6) 151
How many other Deep Blue Commie Counties have the Broward standard of quotas for school. I know some read counties in my state love using the in school suspension method but the tecahers brag its for the girls while boys get alternative school and real suspension.
Fuck the public schools. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (g4lFK) 152
97. Media equalizer dot com
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (33FvV) 153
I heard one of them said 'hey. thats made of kevlar!"and they built it. What was? huh.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 08:01 PM (70cRb) IIRC, the Kevlar sheets were part of ... the air rifle range for the JROTC. Sponsored in part by ... the NRA. Posted by: Fox2! at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (brIR5) 154
"To Protect and To Serve"? I think the Broward County Sheriff's Department has already changed their motto to "Head to the Winchester, have a pint, and wait for this to blow over."
Posted by: Qoheleth at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (iIzG7) 155
Curious about all those pre tape transcripts from the 911 calls, have they been exposed during this tragedy of an investigation, any one know? Who were the other alleged people he put a gun to their heads, have they spoken out are there any records of their police reports?
This event is horrific. I can understand trying to gain a site on the shooter calling in position and description is mandatory but then one should "move quickly on the attacker to defend and protect the innocent." Wonder if anyone was advised to hold their position via dispatch? The shooter should have been taken down quickly, WTH! FBI and it appears there were two counties of law enforcement involved too. Citizens have a right to bare arms, screw Enterprise BS and the politicians and their lobbyists standing in the way. Posted by: Luann at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (7ZiDC) 156
They had kevlar blankets, and covered themselves in a locked room I think.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (aC6Sd) 157
If these are representative of the personnel who will be charged with executing a door to door confiscation, then that effort is clearly doomed to failure.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at February 23, 2018 08:05 PM (G8hDY) 158
Remember, when seconds count, the police are minutes away, and at least an hour from checking on you.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 23, 2018 08:05 PM (ppaKI) 159
Diogenes, you owe me a bottle of hard liquor through the USB port.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:05 PM (JxYR+) 160
Jane,
I was at a magic show, when after one particularly amazing trick, someone screamed out, Hey, how did you do that. I would tell you, answered the magician predictably, but then I'd have to kill you. After a moments pause the same voice screamed out Can you tell my mother in law? Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2018 08:05 PM (0tfLf) 161
Craven cowards, everyone of them. The only hero was the junior ROTC kid.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at February 23, 2018 08:05 PM (bML9A) 162
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:00 PM (JxYR+)
Bless you Jane. This too shall pass. Maybe like a kidney stone, but eventually it shall pass. Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2018 08:05 PM (yGZhu) 163
FIRE.THEM.ALL.
Posted by: Max Power at February 23, 2018 08:05 PM (QCc6B) 164
150. They're willing to disarm you, a law abiding citizen. And they're willing to accept payment through your taxes.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 08:06 PM (fA1SL) 165
134 Yes, great point, how the eff does this kid walk to a McDonald's and get past all the Broward Cowards, standing outside.
I don't get any of this. Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (U+nHb) ____ They are all govt workers. That's all you need to know. Incompetence at its finest. Posted by: Governor Executive Order that No Florida Judge Would Dare Overturn at February 23, 2018 08:06 PM (6nRrz) 166
It was kevlar panels that they used to shoot pellets at for target practice.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2018 08:06 PM (C4l4A) 167
Ha! How does 12 year single malt sound?
Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2018 08:06 PM (0tfLf) Posted by: Michelle Fields at February 23, 2018 08:06 PM (Mouru) 169
Its a cold war people, Leftism is trying to take over the country.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 08:06 PM (aC6Sd) 170
Broward County deputies will be decorated with the Order of the Golden Donut for their care and prudence in a complex and fluid situation. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 08:06 PM (PPHL6) 171
e watched excerpts of Jake Tapped Out's circus, with the mob of "grieving" students calling Dana Loesch a "c*nt", yelling, "Burn her!" and "Murderer!" in our hotel room last night.
She said she was lucky to get out. I can't express how much I loathe all things MFM. CNN and MSDNC especially. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (JxYR+) Omg! That sounds like the Salem Witch Trials. That's sick. And the whole time that Broward Coward sat there and knew he had lied. Maybe that was when Coral Springs called CNN. 9 days to get this story. 9 days. Someone should report on that. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe CNN did it on their own, but I'm not confident of that. Those poor kids and parents. Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 23, 2018 08:06 PM (hLB6Q) 172
142. lolol
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 08:07 PM (33FvV) 173
I have no doubt a squad of Marines or Army roll up to a school with a active shooter they would not sit and wait it out.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 08:01 PM You are right about that. They would call in arty or an airstrike. Posted by: Innocent Bystander at February 23, 2018 08:07 PM (roQNm) Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 23, 2018 08:07 PM (EUMr7) 175
That lying sack of shit Sheriff lied for 9 days and blamed the NRA and anyone else he could think of while knowing the truth the whole time. There is your real fucking coward!
Posted by: Tentotwo at February 23, 2018 08:07 PM (yhf6w) 176
A 12 year old single malt would help my back pain for sure.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 08:07 PM (aC6Sd) 177
Bless you Jane. This too shall pass. Maybe like a kidney stone, but eventually it shall pass.
Posted by: LizLem at February 23, 2018 08:05 PM (yGZhu) Get to repeat the scene tomorrow night. There's one thing I miss about my late FiL. He kept a well-stocked bar. Husband found a bottle of Chardonnay "hidden" in the garage fridge by one of his lib siblings. That fucker is MINE now. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:07 PM (JxYR+) 178
I got a feeling this Sheriff is not popular with the local cops.
Many Sheriff's aren't. They're like mini FBI's. They are arrogant, suck up all the money, take over cases, over extend their jurisdiction and generally are arrogant pricks to the local LE. Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2018 08:07 PM (C4l4A) 179
Those four deputies & their sheriff need to atone for their conduct. It need not be publicly. But it should be done.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine Ritual seppeku. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2018 08:07 PM (sMMcg) 180
Those poor kids and parents.
Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 23, 2018 08:06 PM (hLB6Q) ___ They stopped being "poor kids" about 12 hours after the event. They are now soliders in the left's army. Fuck 'em. Posted by: Governor Executive Order that No Florida Judge Would Dare Overturn at February 23, 2018 08:08 PM (6nRrz) 181
so, the sheriff has announced his deputies will be wearing yellow arm bands to support the deputies that responded to the shooting.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:08 PM (MTjB1) 182
136 >>> Training changed to entering immediately and engaging the shooter.
Later revised to "enjoying the overtime" ------------ I'm only 14 years to retirement Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 08:08 PM (V3U1L) 183
179. You read my mind.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 08:08 PM (fA1SL) 184
178 I got a feeling this Sheriff is not popular with the local cops.
Many Sheriff's aren't. They're like mini FBI's. They are arrogant, suck up all the money, take over cases, over extend their jurisdiction and generally are arrogant pricks to the local LE. Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2018 08:07 PM (C4l4A) ____ Sounds like my type of guy. Posted by: Jimmie Comey at February 23, 2018 08:08 PM (6nRrz) 185
>>>>>132 Imagine being the Sheriff of Coward County right now.
Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (OnpLR) My bet is he cares only to the extent this might affect his career. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM . . .Pretty sure his career is over at the next election now that this is out even though it is a Blue County. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 08:09 PM (+Dllb) 186
What if the officers had charged in and shot a gay Muslim shooter without proper warning? Public relations disaster. Discretion is the better part of valor.
Posted by: Raving in Ma's Basement at February 23, 2018 08:09 PM (PQD/T) 187
They stopped being "poor kids" about 12 hours after the event. They are now soliders in the left's army. Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Governor Executive Order that No Florida Judge Would Dare Overturn at February 23, 2018 08:08 PM (6nRrz) Shaved Head Gurl that was on CNN seems nice. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:09 PM (JxYR+) 188
Reading Loesch's account of the townhall. She's still a sucker for Tapper. She thinks he lost control of the crowd. Sorry Dana, no your "friend" Tapper let the crowd do precisely what he wanted them to do. He loves that they were shouting for your death. That's your friend.
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2018 08:09 PM (lKs2v) 189
Like a retired cop that goes to my church says: law enforcement is there to give the illusion that the elites are in control.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 23, 2018 08:09 PM (HScFq) 190
"He who lays down his life for his brother doesn't retire with 80% salary and free health insurance".
--"Shit Judas Said" Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 23, 2018 08:09 PM (EUMr7) 191
This is a story (not about a man named Jed) about a Police chief who during an active shooter situation in a lawnmower plant named Excel in Hesston Kansas, went inside the facility and engaged the shooter by himself with no backup and killed the perp. 3 people died during that shortened mass shooting situation. That cop had balls of steel.
https://tinyurl.com/y7m92ypl Posted by: JayHawkfan63 at February 23, 2018 08:09 PM (cbW3l) 192
150 So if the police don't have to intervene what are they willing to do in these situations? Because we need to plan accordingly.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 08:04 PM (PPHL6) It's pretty simple, if you are unarmed and resist or make a quick movement or crawl incorrectly while sobbing uncontrollably ...they will draw a weapon and execute you because, ya know, they are in fear for their lives. If you are unarmed and a gun wielding psycho is mowing down you and your friends, they will stand down and hide until the gun wielding psycho runs out of ammo and leaves to get a sammich because, of course, they are in fear for their lives. Does that clear it up a little? Posted by: Malcolm Tent, Commentor at February 23, 2018 08:10 PM (JdioD) 193
Its a cold war people, Leftism is trying to take over the country.
Posted by: Skip Then let it go hot. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2018 08:10 PM (sMMcg) 194
Don't fret over the sheriff. He's got a cush future with Everytown and as a CNN contributor. Just wait and see.
Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 23, 2018 08:10 PM (SkuXa) 195
186 What if the officers had charged in and shot a gay Muslim shooter without proper warning? Public relations disaster. Discretion is the better part of valor.
Posted by: Raving in Ma's Basement at February 23, 2018 08:09 PM (PQD/T) ____ Not sure if you're only 1/2 joking or not, but yeah, after Fergusson and Baltimore, cops are hesitant to do anything. Can't really blame them. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 08:10 PM (6nRrz) 196
Or if a suicide bomber goes blooey, they blame the bomber or Islam
====== And America. ***** Blaming the gun is another way to blame America. Posted by: Bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 08:10 PM (RFYR/) 197
I have returned from commenting at work to commenting while at home, drink almost in hand. Miss me?
Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at February 23, 2018 08:11 PM (13PHl) Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 08:11 PM (70cRb) 199
185. You'd think so. And I'd like to think so. But, no, he'll go into security consulting or some damned thing if he doesn't win re-election. He really should do the honorable thing and open the door and step out of the theatre of this world.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 08:11 PM (fA1SL) 200
And they continue to blame the NRA
Posted by: it's me donna at February 23, 2018 08:11 PM (O2RFr) 201
everyone of the deputies should literally be drummed out of the department. tear off their insignia and rank and brand them with a big C for coward.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:11 PM (MTjB1) 202
It does look like, as I said earlier, there's a tidal wave of feces heading for Sheriff Israel.
Will be "interesting" to see what happens if/when Tapper interviews/covers for him on Sunday. One would think Taper would have to have a serious try to maintain what's left of his reputation, if he even cares anymore. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 23, 2018 08:11 PM (wB8Tg) 203
remember, the reason why we pay early lavish pensions to our government workers is because of the risks the job entails and also because of the pay cut they take in not working in the privat....oh god, Ican't even type that without laughing.
speaking of which, think I'll update the resume on fedjobs Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 08:11 PM (V3U1L) 204
Husband found a bottle of Chardonnay "hidden" in the garage fridge by one of his lib siblings. That fucker is MINE now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:07 PM (JxYR+) ------- HUZZAH! Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2018 08:11 PM (U+nHb) 205
Dana said Tapped Out told her he was concerned that if she didn't leaved immediately with the three security people assigned to her, he didn't know what might happen.
But he said it with his "concerned face" so he was concerned. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:12 PM (JxYR+) 206
so, the sheriff has announced his deputies will be wearing yellow arm bands to support the deputies that responded to the shooting.
I'm not peeing my pants, I'm supporting my brothers! My armed and armored brothers! Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2018 08:12 PM (+y0ym) 207
"... a squad of Marines or Army..."
Hell, the school's JROTCs showed more courage that the deputies. Some of them are dead, and they weren't even old enough for us to buy them a beer. Those four deputies; if they think about the actions of those JROTC cadets, they should hang their heads in shame. Me, I'd eat a bullet. I don't think I could live with that kind of shame. Posted by: Qoheleth at February 23, 2018 08:12 PM (iIzG7) 208
This Sheriff needs to resign or Florida needs to impeach him or whatever.
Since he's elected they can't just fire him. Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2018 08:12 PM (C4l4A) 209
113 and, from the minimal research I've done, it seems like broward was in on the whole new hot law enforcement tactic of "don't report violence dark kids because racism and we're really trying to equalize results of policing by overcompensating against crackers" made famous by "found with stolen goods and items lost in a burglary but this is a school matter, no need for police" saint travyon.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 08:00 PM (V3U1L) Yes, that was a big thing with the Obama Justice Department and Education Department. If brown and black people were being disciplined and punished at a higher rate than white people, that was proof of racism. So either punish brown and black people less, or white people more, in order to even things out. This particular Cruz was not ethnically Hispanic at all, but the mere fact of his name would have figured into Hispanic statistics. So the authorities were hesitant about dealing with him. Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 08:12 PM (sdi6R) 210
That Sheriff and his deputies really need dates with some of the local fauna, say the 'gators.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 23, 2018 08:12 PM (z13UD) 211
21 3rd time tonight
It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine They might, but not a requirement. Its not my call just saying what I am told or read. Wish it wasn't so but your life protection isn't anyones job but yours. Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd) ----- Can they sneak in like a ninja? Walk in like a JROTC 15 year old? Posted by: MAGA at February 23, 2018 08:12 PM (LnOh3) 212
It's pretty simple, if you are unarmed and resist or make a quick movement or crawl incorrectly while sobbing uncontrollably ...they will draw a weapon and execute you because, ya know, they are in fear for their lives.
If you are unarmed and a gun wielding psycho is mowing down you and your friends, they will stand down and hide until the gun wielding psycho runs out of ammo and leaves to get a sammich because, of course, they are in fear for their lives. Does that clear it up a little? And as an extra added bonus, you may get a flashbang grenade in your baby's crib. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2018 08:12 PM (Mouru) 213
Dana can kick Jake's ass armed or unarmed.
Posted by: Eromero at February 23, 2018 08:13 PM (zLDYs) 214
Dana said Tapped Out told her he was concerned that if she didn't leaved immediately with the three security people assigned to her, he didn't know what might happen.
====== He's a sick bastard. Posted by: Bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 08:13 PM (RFYR/) 215
I blame the kids at the school
if they would have just screamed "dangerous dog!!" cops with guns everywhere Posted by: navycopmothafingjoe at February 23, 2018 08:13 PM (t6+RR) 216
Book put out by JPFO: Dial 9-1-1 & Die.
Explains every state and how cops have no affirmative duty to protect YOU. Just society at large. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2018 08:13 PM (sMMcg) 217
208 This Sheriff needs to resign or Florida needs to impeach him or whatever.
Since he's elected they can't just fire him. Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2018 08:12 PM (C4l4A) ___ Broward Co is 70% Dem. Not only will he not resign, he'll probably win re-election. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 08:13 PM (6nRrz) 218
Is this the proper way to remove body bags? This is a 20 second clip of the bags being thrown on the back of pickup truck from the 90 minute video I can't find on YouTube where it shows everything including the use of golfcarts and the arrest.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxla2Sm0yG4 Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:13 PM (g4lFK) 219
Someone should alert Black Lives Matter that the Broward deputies let this white criminal go to McDonald's after his shooting before gently arresting him.
Posted by: Obama waving from Martha's Vineyard at February 23, 2018 08:13 PM (qmQBW) 220
Does that clear it up a little?
Posted by: Malcolm Tent, Commentor at February 23, 2018 08:10 PM (JdioD) Yep. that pretty much explains it. Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 08:13 PM (70cRb) 221
181 so, the sheriff has announced his deputies will be wearing yellow arm bands to support the deputies that responded to the shooting.
--- like I said, the 17 US intel agencies, which reacted with massive tears and resignations because Trump dared insult them, taught govt employees everywhere a lesson. bitch and moan and act as if you're gifts from God. Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 08:14 PM (V3U1L) 222
Husband found a bottle of Chardonnay "hidden" in the garage fridge by one of his lib siblings. That fucker is MINE now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:07 PM (JxYR+) That's the spirit! Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:14 PM (NWiLs) 223
208 This Sheriff needs to resign or Florida needs to impeach him or whatever.
Since he's elected they can't just fire him. Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2018 08:12 PM (C4l4A) He can be recalled. Posted by: Surfperch at February 23, 2018 08:14 PM (BwJGV) 224
>>Those four deputies & their sheriff need to atone for their conduct. It need not be publicly. But it should be done.
Oh, it needs to be public. The Sheriff has been leading the mob blaming NRA and the demands for gun bans. He wanted his targets - the NRA and legal gun owners - publicly blamed and shamed. Also, it needs to be on record or within a few years the Left will pretend it never happened. Heck, they've already been quietly erasing/ignoring the Alexandria shooting. Notice how no one in the MSM has referenced that attack, asked Steve Scalise and other GOP congressman attacked to be on their shws. Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2018 08:14 PM (W+vEI) 225
Dana should've pulled out a MAC 10 and told him: "Say hello to my little friend."
Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2018 08:14 PM (C4l4A) 226
We watched excerpts of Jake Tapped Out's circus, with the mob of "grieving" students calling Dana Loesch a "c*nt", yelling, "Burn her!" and "Murderer!" in our hotel room last night.
She said she was lucky to get out. I can't express how much I loathe all things MFM. CNN and MSDNC especially. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (JxYR+) I wanna know though why her and others still participate in bullshit like that town hall. You can't reason with the retards anymore. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 08:14 PM (TXMX/) 227
Can they sneak in like a ninja?
Walk in like a JROTC 15 year old? Posted by: MAGA at February 23, 2018 08:12 PM (LnOh3) ---------- Agree. Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2018 08:14 PM (U+nHb) 228
215 I blame the kids at the school
if they would have just screamed "dangerous dog!!" cops with guns everywhere Posted by: navycopmothafingjoe at February 23, 2018 08:13 PM (t6+RR) ___ They should have called and said a student was wearing a red hat and it was triggering. The popo would have been in there under 30 seconds. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 08:14 PM (6nRrz) 229
And they continue to blame the NRA
The NRA seems to be really deadly with weapons. Maybe local officials should seek them out to get some pointers. Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2018 08:14 PM (ayEGB) 230
Shaved Head Gurl that was on CNN seems nice.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:09 PM (JxYR+) Get someone that looks at you the way a leftist looks at a chance for power and control. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 23, 2018 08:14 PM (wB8Tg) 231
Dana said Tapped Out told her he was concerned that if she didn't leaved immediately with the three security people assigned to her, he didn't know what might happen.
But he said it with his "concerned face" so he was concerned. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:12 PM (JxYR+) I hate commies. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:15 PM (g4lFK) 232
no one has had similar rules since columbine. police have routinely discussed how procedure is to move towards and take out shooter at recent shooting events. Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:03 PM (MTjB1) Yes. For example, in the Arapaho and Reynolds school shootings a few years ago, SROs ran towards the gunfire, and in both cases the perps offed themselves even though they were heavily armed to go after more kids. One innocent student was killed in each case, but it would've been much worse if the deputies hadn't been there. Posted by: stace at February 23, 2018 08:15 PM (6HFDU) 233
I blame the kids at the school
if they would have just screamed "dangerous dog!!" cops with guns everywhere Posted by: navycopmothafingjoe at February 23, 2018 08:13 PM (t6+RR) Dude ... that was a perfectly good beer. Not to mention the monitor. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 08:15 PM (fiGNd) 234
Imagine being the Sheriff of Coward County right now.
Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2018 08:02 PM (OnpLR) I hope that lefty political hack is feeling the heat. Fire him and take his pension. It's all those shitheads care about anyway Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 08:15 PM (SiINZ) 235
I'm not a gun owner and I don't know a lot about guns but it seems the media is wrong 100 percent of the time when they report on guns or the second amendment.
At least that's my impression. Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 23, 2018 08:15 PM (5fRCd) 236
He can be recalled.
Posted by: Surfperch at February 23, 2018 08:14 PM (BwJGV) That's the word I was looking for. Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2018 08:16 PM (C4l4A) 237
Put this in context, a huge LEO agency tasked with this community's law enforcement and public safety stood outside and cowered behind their cars. In the meantime, dedicated LEO's from a small suburban police department in a neighboring city charged into the school even though it wasn't in their jurisdiction.
This really in unbelievable. It would be equivalent to NYPD officers hiding during a school rampage in Queens while LEO from some podunk Long Island agency took charge. Could anyone imagine that happening? Follow it up with the scumbag sheriff on CNN blaming Dana Loesch while all the while he knew what had really happened. God Bless the LEOs of the Coral Springs PD. The truth will set you free. Posted by: Jeff C at February 23, 2018 08:16 PM (v02Ni) 238
ou are right about that. They would call in arty or an airstrike.
Posted by: Innocent Bystander at February 23, 2018 08:07 PM (roQNm) A three ship cell of BUFFS. ARC LIGHT, baby. Posted by: Fox2! at February 23, 2018 08:16 PM (brIR5) 239
Heck, they've already been quietly erasing/ignoring the Alexandria shooting. Notice how no one in the MSM has referenced that attack, asked Steve Scalise and other GOP congressman attacked to be on their shws.
===== They also neglect to mention the nutbag who tried to shoot up the Family Research Council after being practically driven to it by the SPLC. Posted by: Bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 08:16 PM (RFYR/) 240
Shaved Head Gurl that was on CNN seems nice.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:09 PM (JxYR+) That thing is the poster grrl for the take away the guns revolution. Xe probably can't even spell her own name. Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 08:16 PM (SiINZ) 241
Someone should ship a big box of rubber chickens to the Broward County Sheriff's Office.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:16 PM (NWiLs) 242
You know, I don't even own a handgun but I just might join the NRA out of sheer spite. From what I noticed the last few days others have already done so and for the same reason. These attacks on the NRA is only helping them gain members and increase donations.
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 23, 2018 08:17 PM (Ixzfa) 243
I am reminded, nyah!, of a bit of wisdom Squad Leader Britain of the Newport City Tank Police imparted to his newest recruit Leona Ozaki.
"A crime happens every 26 seconds in this city. Our job is to make sure it does go to 25 seconds." Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 23, 2018 08:17 PM (z13UD) 244
We're not supposed to have our own guns because the police will protect us.
But the evidence indicates that we can't count on the police to protect us. So how about they give all of us guns and take away the guns from the cops? Posted by: tu3031 at February 23, 2018 08:17 PM (O5Q3r) 245
3rd time tonight
It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine They might, but not a requirement. Its not my call just saying what I am told or read. Wish it wasn't so but your life protection isn't anyones job but yours. Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd) Second time tonight: The officer doesn't have to "charge in like a Marine". He can infiltrate, seek a good vantage point, and try to take out the perp with a well-aimed shot, or just maintain harassing fire that puts him off his aim, thereby reducing innocent casualties. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2018 08:17 PM (Dbv1R) 246
you know I am generally a fan of sheriff departments and the role that sheriffs play. however, there is a wide gap in the quality of different sheriff departments. some are squared away and others resemble a dumping ground for shit shoveled into sacks.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:17 PM (MTjB1) 247
235 I'm not a gun owner and I don't know a lot about guns but it seems the media is wrong 100 percent of the time when they report on guns or the second amendment.
At least that's my impression. Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 23, 2018 08:15 PM (5fRCd) You're not wrong. And they do it deliberately in service of their agenda. On to better things, how's the trip going? Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:18 PM (NWiLs) 248
This is why I hate when the police is lumped in with firefighters as "heroes". Bullshit. Cops are lazy donut eating power hungry assholes.
Firefighters go into burning buildings. yuuuuuuge difference Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 08:18 PM (6nRrz) Posted by: Obama waving from Martha's Vineyard at February 23, 2018 08:18 PM (qmQBW) 250
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Shaved Head Gurl that was on CNN seems nice. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:09 PM (JxYR+) I bet she runs for office as soon as she reaches the age qualification. Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 08:18 PM (sdi6R) Posted by: Malcolm Tent, Commentor at February 23, 2018 08:19 PM (JdioD) 252
Second time tonight: The officer doesn't have to "charge in like a Marine". He can infiltrate, seek a good vantage point, and try to take out the perp with a well-aimed shot, or just maintain harassing fire that puts him off his aim, thereby reducing innocent casualties.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2018 08:17 PM (Dbv1R) Exactly. Haven't they heard of suppressing fire? Lob enough rounds in his direction to make him keep his head down and give the innocents a chance to run for it. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:19 PM (NWiLs) 253
Someone should alert Black Lives Matter that the Broward deputies let this white criminal go to McDonald's after his shooting before gently arresting him.
Posted by: Obama waving from Martha's Vineyard at February 23, 2018 08:13 PM (qmQBW) Serious question: How do we know there was only one shooter if this autistic retard managed to escape like this and multiple witnesses are claiming on video multiple shooters? Why is there no serious investigation? Why is the building being demolished without an investigation? I truly don't understand this. Why can't the proper procedures be followed instead of the steps being carried out by the long discredited lying MSM? Why is following proper investigative procedures wromgthink? Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:19 PM (g4lFK) 254
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Shaved Head Gurl that was on CNN seems nice. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:09 PM (JxYR+) I bet she runs for office as soon as she reaches the age qualification. Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 08:18 PM (sdi6R) ___ David Hogg / Shaved Head Girl 2036!! Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 08:19 PM (6nRrz) 255
I'm converting to Islam and I've decided to live my life as a gay man.
Posted by: Sheriff Israel at February 23, 2018 08:19 PM (398bZ) Posted by: Luann at February 23, 2018 08:19 PM (7ZiDC) Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at February 23, 2018 08:19 PM (13PHl) 258
Any doubts as to Rick Scott being your typical RINO anymore?
Posted by: Tentotwo at February 23, 2018 08:19 PM (yhf6w) 259
Second time tonight: The officer doesn't have to "charge in like a Marine". He can infiltrate, seek a good vantage point, and try to take out the perp with a well-aimed shot, or just maintain harassing fire that puts him off his aim, thereby reducing innocent casualties.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2018 08:17 PM (Dbv1R) ------ Nailed it. No one is saying it has to be a suicide mission. But if you do nothing, more kids will die. Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2018 08:19 PM (U+nHb) 260
I can forgive one cop freezing up in a bad situation.
Now we're talking about 4 cops deciding not to do their job. Not one of those 4 cops had enough balls to lead the charge? Again, one cop I can understand, I like to think I wouldn't freeze, but, I won't ever know unless the situation arises. 4 cops not getting the job done is unforgivable. Posted by: Blake at February 23, 2018 08:20 PM (WEBkv) 261
I'm not a gun owner and I don't know a lot about guns but it seems the media is wrong 100 percent of the time when they report on guns or the second amendment.
At least that's my impression. Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 23, 2018 08:15 PM (5fRCd) You're not wrong. And they do it deliberately in service of their agenda. On to better things, how's the trip going? Posted by: Insomniac at The trip has been great. I had an awesome trip to Corregidor yesterday. Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 23, 2018 08:20 PM (5fRCd) 262
I should actually be awarded a Nobel Prize for listening to my lib MiL and her conservative sister blather at each other over green beans and fish for over an hour and a half tonight.
My idiot husband actually looked at me, as I sat with what I'm sure was an exhausted, frozen smile, and said, "You seem tired. What's wrong?" Anyhow, my MiL's parting words as I kissed her goodnight were, "Guns are such TERRIBLE things. Something must be done." I bit my tongue in two but actually managed to say, "Yes. Bless your heart. 'Night!" Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:20 PM (JxYR+) 263
Someone should ship a big box of rubber chickens to the Broward County Sheriff's Office.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:16 PM (NWiLs) Four feathers Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 08:20 PM (SiINZ) 264
If you live with you family in Broward county and do not want to fold the sheriff office and start again, I question your values.
This is a purge them all type of circumstance. Posted by: Inogame at February 23, 2018 08:20 PM (VPJcI) 265
>>Shaved Head Gurl that was on CNN seems nice.
Heh. Took one look at the news with a clip of her screaming and the waves of cray-cray activist rolling off her. The hair - sorta Ellen Jamesian..... Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2018 08:20 PM (W+vEI) 266
The NRA just got another new member. I took the hat and Rifleman mag.
Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2018 08:20 PM (nisXv) 267
I bet she runs for office as soon as she reaches the age qualification.
Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 08:18 PM (sdi6R) ===== Or operates the chute at the death camps. Posted by: Bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 08:21 PM (RFYR/) 268
I do support law enforcement. But some are better than others, like most things. Broward, you have been measured and you have been found wanting!
Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2018 08:21 PM (U+nHb) 269
I truly don't understand this. Why can't the proper procedures be followed instead of the steps being carried out by the long discredited lying MSM?
Why is following proper investigative procedures wromgthink? Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:19 PM (g4lFK) ___ It's easy to understand 1. The sherriff is a left wing anti-gun cunt whose only goal is to advance the agenda. 2. The county is 70% Democrat so it also doesn't give a fuck and is perfectly fine with 17 dead kids in exchange for a gun grab. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 08:21 PM (6nRrz) 270
There are no innocents at a mass shooting. The police don't know who is doing the shooting so they have to treat everyone there as a suspect until each and every suspect has been interrogated.
Posted by: Innocent Bystander at February 23, 2018 08:21 PM (roQNm) 271
Fake Jake is a snake
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 08:21 PM (33FvV) Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at February 23, 2018 08:21 PM (13PHl) 273
David Hogg was great in Eegah! But back then he called himself Arch Hall Jr.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 23, 2018 08:21 PM (IMacf) 274
kenny rogers is going to have to do q sequel to Coward of the County.
Coward of the County 2; Becky Don't Call 911 When the Gatlin Boys Come Calling. Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1) 275
Not so worried about the PoPo going door to door confiscating weapons now, at least.
Posted by: jsg at February 23, 2018 08:22 PM (EcEWt) 276
With all the pinch-yourself-is-the-country-really-this-degraded outrages of the last 9 or so years, for some reason this thing is starting to really rev my engines.
The outrageous - outrageous - incompetence of federal and local law enforcement (it's a lot more than just the ignored tips and the stunning performance at the school during the incident). This f***ing sheriff slandering the NRA and others. What substitutes for a press in the country organizing and egging on the lynch mob - while of course ignoring the actual story or suppressing the facts. This idiot gov. Scott (let's just call him "Trayvon Martin Scott") proposing new gun laws - which just stipulates the idiocy and ignorance and legitimizes the lynch mob activity. These f***ing companies joining the mob by ending discounts for NRA members. Even Trump stumbling by talking about "bump stocks" (an especially idiotic non-issue in a field of idiotic non-issues) and "doing something". FFS. What's next. Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2018 08:22 PM (QDnY+) 277
...4 cops not getting the job done is unforgivable.
Posted by: Blake at February 23, 2018 08:20 PM (WEBkv) It's department policy. Posted by: DR.WTF? at February 23, 2018 08:22 PM (T71PA) Posted by: navycopmothafingjoe at February 23, 2018 08:22 PM (t6+RR) 279
I don't understand why we believe anything the MSM puts out there at this point. Then when proper investigative procedures after a crime are not followed, WTF?
I'm not being a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist. These are legitimate questions looking back on past patterns and history of The Administrative State including the MSM, who are all literally actors. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:22 PM (g4lFK) 280
258 Any doubts as to Rick Scott being your typical RINO anymore?
Posted by: Tentotwo at February 23, 2018 08:19 PM (yhf6w) ___ Pfffft...Piker Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 08:23 PM (6nRrz) 281
Across America school boards, city councils, and parents ought to be asking local law enforcement what response they can expect to a persistent active shooter at a school. Do they get SWAT or squat?
Posted by: Guam tipper at February 23, 2018 08:23 PM (/DvFd) 282
The police don't know who is doing the shooting so they have to treat everyone there as a suspect until each and every suspect has been interrogated.
Posted by: Innocent Bystander I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure the crazy-eyed one firing into a crowd is your guy. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 23, 2018 08:23 PM (HScFq) 283
Speaking of Kenny Rogers, there's a Kenny Rogers Chicken restaurant in the Philippines.
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 23, 2018 08:23 PM (5fRCd) Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 23, 2018 08:23 PM (SkuXa) 285
Can't count bullet holes and estimate calibers if the building is torn down.
This is happening too often. We have to tear down any scene of tragedy to somehow make amends. They should be rebuilt as a memorial. Some of us have become a nation of children. Unruly and violent children. Posted by: jakee308 at February 23, 2018 08:23 PM (C4l4A) 286
270 There are no innocents at a mass shooting. The police don't know who is doing the shooting so they have to treat everyone there as a suspect until each and every suspect has been interrogated.
Posted by: Innocent Bystander at February 23, 2018 08:21 PM (roQNm) Dude, what the fuck is your problem? Posted by: Sheriff Israel at February 23, 2018 08:24 PM (398bZ) 287
so, one the one hand the government is advising people to hide or attack the shooter with improvised weapons, including cans of peas, during a shooting but not requiring the armed first responders to do the armed responder thing.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:24 PM (MTjB1) 288
This tragedy happened because government at every level failed to do their minimum duty. Solution? More government!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 23, 2018 08:24 PM (+y/Ru) 289
263. Tantos and white cotton robes.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 08:24 PM (fA1SL) 290
We got an email from our school district today explaining the increased law enforcement presence around all schools. I'm sure there are some good guys on the force but I was less than impressed
Posted by: IC at February 23, 2018 08:24 PM (gcme+) 291
Off coward sheriff sock.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 08:24 PM (398bZ) 292
Hey, guns we carry are for our protection. They train us on reports. We arrive on the scene and make reports and take evidence.
We were at the ready. Ready to make a report. Report: It's the NRA's fault. Posted by: Broward Depu ty at February 23, 2018 08:25 PM (6PlZp) 293
290 We got an email from our school district today explaining the increased law enforcement presence around all schools.
Posted by: IC at February 23, 2018 08:24 PM (gcme+) ___ Did the schools start selling donuts and coffee? Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 08:25 PM (6nRrz) 294
Of course Dominion Tank Police OVAs Acts I - IV are worth it. I am in them all. And get to play with all these yummy guns and dance and blow things up!
Just the opening where the Police Chief is arguing with the female mayor is almost worth it. He's throwing her cr@p about being reelected back into her face while she screeches about 'his' tank police being a butcher killing society. Crime War is one of the titles used. Very fitting. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 23, 2018 08:26 PM (z13UD) 295
OMG! DID YOU SEE TRUMP'S NOTE CARD WHEN HE MET WITH THE FAMILIES???!!!!!!???
I've only listened to Fox briefly in the car today between Athens and ATL, and I haven't seen the news since this morning in the hotel. Is the MFM running around screaming because of the note card yet? I did see CNN yesterday morning beginning to lose its shit because TRUMP LACKS EMPATHY. Unlike Choom Boy: Ft. Hood, Chattanooga, San Bernardino, Benghazi, Americans getting their heads sawed off by peaceful goat farmers, etc. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:26 PM (JxYR+) 296
You're Scaring me!
Posted by: The Broward Coward at February 23, 2018 08:26 PM (BwJGV) 297
There once were 4 Cowards in Broward
With a Sheriff as craven as they are They let children be killed Because it gave them a thrill To have guns but... Need Muldoon Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 23, 2018 08:26 PM (hLB6Q) 298
275. No, that's a concern still. They'd come in force and armed and armoured and know they'd come away without so much as a scratch.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 08:26 PM (fA1SL) 299
Why is the mother fucking building being immediately demolished without an investigation? How do we know there was only one shooter when multiple students have said on video there were more than one? The autistic sub IQ kid escaped unnoticed without a scratch or even a bead of sweat and with clean pressed clothes and grabbed a fucking subway and burger before being arrested? WTF?
This stinks like Oklahoma City. End of fucking story. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:26 PM (g4lFK) 300
It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd) You are misunderstanding the doctrine on how police departments are supposed to react to an active shooter. My agency had a policy that first on the scene were to immediately enter the building to engage the shooter. No waiting on backup. We did drills in our high school, too. The doctrine was revised after Columbine. I have noticed that the current crop of officers seem to either lack the intestinal fortitude or have forgotten the lessons learned. This isn't the first time in recent memory where the cops are stooging around while people are being murdered by an active shooter. If the Broward County SO deputies had acted like the Coral Springs PD officers expected, Coral Springs PD Chief wouldn't have "communicated what we saw" to the command staff. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 23, 2018 08:27 PM (5Yee7) 301
We got an email from our school district today explaining the increased law enforcement presence around all schools.
Homeland Defense - Transportation Security Agent version 2.0 Posted by: Innocent Bystander at February 23, 2018 08:27 PM (roQNm) 302
so, this kind or writes itself like an NRA spot.
When the kids in coward county were being massacred by a guy that had been referred to the fbi and local law enforcement dozens of times the sheriff's deputies hid outside behind their cruisers. Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:27 PM (MTjB1) 303
Four white feathers
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 08:20 PM (SiINZ) As Insta would say, classic movie reference in the lede Posted by: Fox2! at February 23, 2018 08:27 PM (brIR5) 304
Speaking of Kenny Rogers, there's a Kenny Rogers Chicken restaurant in the Philippines. Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 23, 2018 08:23 PM (5fRCd) Um. Make sure it's chicken. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:27 PM (JxYR+) 305
I sure think 100 percent of my rage would be directed at the police if I was a parent of a student at the school.
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 23, 2018 08:27 PM (5fRCd) 306
269
It's easy to understand 1. The sherriff is a left wing anti-gun cunt whose only goal is to advance the agenda. 2. The county is 70% Democrat so it also doesn't give a fuck and is perfectly fine with 17 dead kids in exchange for a gun grab. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 08:21 PM (6nRrz) The Left has absolutely no compunction about murdering innocents when they are in power. See the 20th Century for examples. Why should we expect them to behave any differently when they are trying to attain power? Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 08:27 PM (sdi6R) 307
You are the first responder. You.
Posted by: PhilDirt at February 23, 2018 08:27 PM (f9vdt) 308
>>The police don't know who is doing the shooting so they have to treat everyone there as a suspect until each and every suspect has been interrogated.
Maybe the local police don't, but the school had a "resource officer" living onsite whose job was dealing with campus crime, campus criminals. Add to that the multiple reports that kids made about the shooter, the schools knowledge of his threats to kill someone, and oh yeah, his years of dealing with this kid personally and meeting with his family, social services. etc. I have no doubt as soon as he heard the first shot he had a really good idea who it might be. Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2018 08:28 PM (W+vEI) 309
@293, heh. It's California so it's kale and shit in schools.
Posted by: IC at February 23, 2018 08:28 PM (gcme+) 310
>>>>>Second time tonight: The officer doesn't have to
"charge in like a Marine". He can infiltrate, seek a good vantage point, and try to take out the perp with a well-aimed shot, or just maintain harassing fire that puts him off his aim, thereby reducing innocent casualties. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2018 08:17 PM (Dbv1R) Exactly. Haven't they heard of suppressing fire? Lob enough rounds in his direction to make him keep his head down and give the innocents a chance to run for it. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:19 PM . . .Don't want to be a wet blanket, but suppressing fire into a school with hundreds of screaming kids running around in all directions? They needed to march to the sounds of the guns and take him out one on one. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 08:28 PM (+Dllb) 311
* orders MOAR Tok ammo *
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 08:28 PM (fA1SL) 312
I sure think 100 percent of my rage would be directed at the police if I was a parent of a student at the school.
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem But NRA. Trump. MUH NARATIVE! Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 23, 2018 08:29 PM (HScFq) 313
This story is getting zero coverage on Google News. It's non-stop NRA bashing and sucking Rick Scott's dick.
Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 08:29 PM (6nRrz) Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2018 08:29 PM (6FqZa) 315
Any FL morons present - what is your actual off-cuff take on the prospects for any of Scott's proposals? How does the state house line up on things like this?
Just wondering whether, considering the mega-scandal we appear to have in Broward County, and FL being a pretty gun-friendly and gun-owning state, the Dems and select GOPers might be tossing a grenade down their pants by joining the know-nothing gun-grabbing lynch mob right now. Would be great if that were the case in November. Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2018 08:29 PM (QDnY+) 316
From my Facebook feed, it seems to be incomprehensible to some of my tender lefty friends that an individual who isn't a police officer might have more interest in his own skin or be better placed to respond to protect others in time. The very idea that a non-officer could deploy force as or more effectively is an impossibility to them.
Posted by: SarahW at February 23, 2018 08:30 PM (Sp1NT) 317
The USA male speed skaters have the weirdest outfits. Like penguins.
Posted by: IC at February 23, 2018 08:30 PM (gcme+) 318
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>>"I can forgive one cop freezing up in a bad situation.[...] "4 cops not getting the job done is unforgivable." Again: One is cowardice. Four is a plan. When it really begins to sink in that the Broward County Sheriff's office is, strictly speaking, no longer a law enforcement operation, but rather an enforcer of leftist political ideology to perpetuate the illusion of a what a perfect leftist society is supposed to look like, then the situation becomes understandable. Not any less evil, but understandable. Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 23, 2018 08:30 PM (WXasw) 319
where they'll put the statue commemorating the bravery of the Broward County cops.
Krispy Kreme Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2018 08:29 PM (6FqZa) Put a KK in every school. Then the cops won't ever leave. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 08:30 PM (TXMX/) 320
Remember, when seconds count, the police are seconds away..... and hiding behind a car.
Posted by: pookysgirl at February 23, 2018 08:31 PM (XKZwp) 321
The USA male speed skaters have the weirdest outfits. Like penguins.
======= How are their packages? Posted by: Shep! at February 23, 2018 08:31 PM (RFYR/) 322
rickl - deadspin posted in public that they thought killing Right-leaning children would make the world a better place
https://tinyurl.com/y9g5yqcz Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2018 08:31 PM (6FqZa) 323
CNN's former Obama commie pal Van Jones sez kids view the NRA the same as the KKK.
Begins to type....stops. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:31 PM (JxYR+) 324
301 We got an email from our school district today explaining the increased law enforcement presence around all schools.
Homeland Defense - Transportation Security Agent version 2.0 Posted by: Innocent Bystander at February 23, 2018 08:27 PM (roQNm) After the next school shooting, there will be calls to expand the TSA into every school in the country. I wish I was joking. Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 08:32 PM (sdi6R) 325
.Don't want to be a wet blanket, but suppressing fire into a school with hundreds of screaming kids running around in all directions?
They needed to march to the sounds of the guns and take him out one on one. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 08:28 PM (+Dllb) I didn't suggest that at all. Get the aforementioned vantage point and keep him pinned. I'm actually a little annoyed you think I'd suggest blind firing into a school. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:32 PM (NWiLs) 326
okay, I'm convinced this chick Tucker has on about once a week is a joke being played on all of us.
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 23, 2018 08:32 PM (dUJdY) 327
well, in defense of the deputies, coward count sop is to wait for either armored back up to roll in and blast the school or their forward air controller to arrive on scene and direct air assets on to the target.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:32 PM (MTjB1) 328
This is just a situation in which the curtain has been lifted enough for us to take a peek at the real shitshow. This kinda behavior by police officers probably happens all the time. And I'm not sure they aren't justified after incidents like Ferguson etal. This is just another symptom of a failing society. Nothing lasts forever, that includes the US
Posted by: nsirchov at February 23, 2018 08:32 PM (VWsDy) 329
.Don't want to be a wet blanket, but suppressing fire into a school with hundreds of screaming kids running around in all directions?
------- All the more cover for a sheriff moving toward the sounds of gun fire. Were you being sarcastic? Suppressing fire is meant toward an active shooter, not just firing wildly down a hallway. Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (U+nHb) 330
326. She does seem to be having a good time.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (fA1SL) 331
I bet we never see the camera footage from the shooting in the buildings like we got to see with Columbine. just a wild guess based on history of other scripted narratives after a mass shooting or killing.
Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (g4lFK) 332
Tovarich Palaptine, Beslan Amerika yet?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (z13UD) 333
Lizzy apparently Peterson knew the nutjob shooter from previous interactions. No idea if he knew nutjob was the shooter as it was starting.
There appears to be a massive and long-running issue with the county LE and school authorities - egged on by toxic idiocy from Obama's Washington - amounting basically to suspending criminal law for school-age perps, in order to lower the county/district crime numbers (very Soviet - reduce crime by just looking the other way or not counting crime you do see). Conservative Treehouse guy has some long articles about it - he stumbled on it all while researching Travyon Martin incident, back at that time. Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (QDnY+) Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (Dp6qK) 335
The USA male speed skaters have the weirdest outfits. Like penguins.
Posted by: IC at February 23, 2018 08:30 PM (gcme+) Aren't they all homos? Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (TXMX/) 336
The USA male speed skaters have the weirdest outfits. Like penguins.
Posted by: IC at February 23, 2018 08:30 PM (gcme+) We had a rubber chicken dinner at a board meeting last night, and went to a bar near our hotel for a nightcap. Saw Johnny Weir for the first time in forever on the TV. Husband was convinced he was a girl. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (JxYR+) 337
323 CNN's former Obama commie pal Van Jones sez kids view the NRA the same as the KKK.
Begins to type....stops. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:31 PM (JxYR+) I'll finish it for you, Jane: Why is that admitted Communist still breathing? Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 08:34 PM (sdi6R) 338
332. They're working on it. And mark my words - it will happen here.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 08:34 PM (fA1SL) 339
well, in defense of the deputies, coward count sop is to wait for either armored back up to roll in and blast the school or their forward air controller to arrive on scene and direct air assets on to the target.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:32 PM (MTjB1) ------ All the more reason to scorn the Broward Sheriff's department. Seems like a no win policy. Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2018 08:34 PM (U+nHb) 340
you will never get the coward county dispatch exchanges because no one wants the deputies request and pleadings for immediate backup with clean uniform trousers to be reported.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:35 PM (MTjB1) 341
334 Police trade in glocks. Hardly used.
https://tinyurl.com/yb539uuv Get them while they are hot. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (Dp6qK) Oooh, they have Gen 2 Glock 17's... Damn this poor...ness Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Commentor...now with Black Panther Review at February 23, 2018 08:35 PM (xJa6I) 342
I'll finish it for you, Jane: Why is that admitted Communist still breathing?
Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 08:34 PM (sdi6R) *fist bump* Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:35 PM (JxYR+) 343
White feathers for every coward along with their pensions.
Posted by: Gunsmoke at February 23, 2018 08:35 PM (gtB3n) 344
where they'll put the statue commemorating the bravery of the Broward County cops.
Krispy Kreme Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2018 08:29 PM (6FqZa) Put a KK in every school. Then the cops won't ever leave. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 08:30 PM (TXMX/) --------- C'mon. KK is in business for profit. Cops get that stuff for free or at huge discounts. Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 23, 2018 08:36 PM (/zp4x) 345
322 rickl - deadspin posted in public that they thought killing Right-leaning children would make the world a better place
https://tinyurl.com/y9g5yqcz Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 23, 2018 08:31 PM (6FqZa) The Administrative State is pushing for a Turner Diaries scenario. I've been convinced of this since 2009. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:36 PM (g4lFK) 346
S326 okay, I'm convinced this chick Tucker has on about once a week is a joke being played on all of us.
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 23, 2018 08:32 PM She got the same neckjob as Joy Reid Posted by: nsirchov at February 23, 2018 08:36 PM (VWsDy) Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 08:36 PM (z2W2E) 348
She seriously looked like she was trying not to laugh through that whole interview. I know I'm right.
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 23, 2018 08:36 PM (dUJdY) 349
Not any less evil, but understandable.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 23, 2018 08:30 PM (WXasw) === Yes. How would the fact set be different if the authorities wanted something like this to occur? Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 23, 2018 08:36 PM (EZebt) 350
IC: "We got an email from our school district today explaining the increased law enforcement presence around all schools. I'm sure there are some good guys on the force but I was less than impressed"
I hope it's not in Coward County. You'd be better off borrowing some mannequins from Macy's. At least they don't duck. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 23, 2018 08:37 PM (H8S+R) 351
Barney would have gone in. With just one bullet.
Posted by: Andy Taylor at February 23, 2018 08:37 PM (djCea) 352
students calling Dana Loesch a "c*nt", yelling, "Burn her!" and "Murderer!"
Children of the Commie Corn. Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 23, 2018 08:37 PM (Tyii7) 353
It will get sillier and sillier until we finally realize what's been going on for the past several months.
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 23, 2018 08:37 PM (dUJdY) 354
315 Any FL morons present - what is your actual off-cuff take on the prospects for any of Scott's proposals? How does the state house line up on things like this?
Just wondering whether, considering the mega-scandal we appear to have in Broward County, and FL being a pretty gun-friendly and gun-owning state, the Dems and select GOPers might be tossing a grenade down their pants by joining the know-nothing gun-grabbing lynch mob right now. Would be great if that were the case in November. Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2018 08:29 PM (QDnY+) Honestly, I have no idea. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (NWiLs) 355
Fuck. I have a feeling by the time all is said and done, I'm gonna hate cops almost as much as liberals do.
Posted by: Mega at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (rv0Fo) 356
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Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (fA1SL) 357
Saw Johnny Weir for the first time in forever on the TV. Husband was convinced he was a girl.
Posted by: Jane D'oh He's imitating Caesar from The Hunger Games. Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (sMMcg) 358
CNN's former Obama commie pal Van Jones sez kids view the NRA the same as the KKK.
Begins to type....stops. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:31 PM (JxYR+) Some probably ... my kid stole all my NRA hats. Little fuckin' Tide Eaters. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (fiGNd) 359
Oooh, they have Gen 2 Glock 17's...
Damn this poor...ness Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Commentor...now with Black Panther Review at February 23, 2018 08:35 PM (xJa6I) I am tempted to order a G17 gen3, a G26, and a G35. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (Dp6qK) 360
g'evenin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (KCxzN) 361
347 https://is.gd/GzCEUF
Marlene, I'm on my coffee break! Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 08:36 PM (z2W2E) Mom? Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Commentor...now with Black Panther Review at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (xJa6I) 362
Put a KK in every school. Then the cops won't ever leave.
--- Hang a donut around every kid's neck. Problem solved! Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (z2W2E) 363
Police trade in glocks. Hardly used.
https://tinyurl.com/yb539uuv Get them while they are hot. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (Dp6qK) Never fired, only dropped once. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (NWiLs) 364
350, not sure what to think. It's our school district here in California.
Posted by: IC at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (gcme+) 365
Yes. How would the fact set be different if the authorities wanted something like this to occur?
There would be few dots that connect to the political decision makers who made the choices that brought us to this situation. Posted by: Innocent Bystander at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (roQNm) 366
359 Oooh, they have Gen 2 Glock 17's...
Damn this poor...ness Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Commentor...now with Black Panther Review at February 23, 2018 08:35 PM (xJa6I) I am tempted to order a G17 gen3, a G26, and a G35. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM (Dp6qK) Ya gotta do it. Ya gotta. Ya gotta do it. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Commentor...now with Black Panther Review at February 23, 2018 08:39 PM (xJa6I) 367
The cops were watching video on a 20? minute tape delay of developments so says dad and daughter in Ingrahm last night.
Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:39 PM (g4lFK) 368
Holy crap look at all the doc dumps tonite!
And don't miss the detailed analysis of the Obama-era bad policies that have killed America's classroom discipline at TheLastRefuge. It is so outrageous. Posted by: gp at February 23, 2018 08:39 PM (mk9aG) 369
They didn't need to hide. I would have just told them to Stand Down.
Posted by: Hillary at February 23, 2018 08:39 PM (rv0Fo) 370
There was an S-R-O who was a coward,
His donuts he enjoyed glazed and powdered, He stood by as kids died, While three more cops spied, And thought "At this rate, I'll be Sherrif of Broward"! Sorry, I'm no Muldoon. Posted by: Malcolm Tent, Commentor at February 23, 2018 08:39 PM (JdioD) 371
Seriously, if action can only be taken, policy wise, when back up armor to arrive, is this not insane?
Yes, let the kids die while we policy out this whole situation. Posted by: Seems Legit at February 23, 2018 08:39 PM (U+nHb) 372
334 Police trade in glocks. Hardly used.
https://tinyurl.com/yb539uuv Get them while they are hot. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (Dp6qK) Are these good deals? Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 08:39 PM (TXMX/) 373
First time I saw Johnny Weir, I thought it was a tranny, and the sorriest, laziest excuse for one I ever saw. Didn't even shave its legs, wearing some sort of crazy dress looking thing. I had no idea. I still don't really. Pan-gender I guess? Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 23, 2018 08:40 PM (8O3HH) 374
>>Lizzy apparently Peterson knew the nutjob shooter from previous interactions. No idea if he knew nutjob was the shooter as it was starting.
Yeah, I know, but if there was anyone onsite who would have known of the (I'm guessing) handful of kids capable of doing this, it was him. It was his job to know them, even if he was there to cover it up instead of record it. The Coral Springs PD officers don't know the student body, so they would not be able to quickly distinguish potential shooters from victims. Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2018 08:40 PM (W+vEI) Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 08:40 PM (z2W2E) Posted by: Mega at February 23, 2018 08:41 PM (rv0Fo) 377
Hey everybody.
Surprised CNN even reported this story. Ultimately it goes against the "guns ur evvl!!!" narrative. Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2018 08:41 PM (eMKNe) 378
Just as companies may feel free to sever their ties with the NRA at any time, NRA members may feel free to spend their hard-earned money elsewhere when they need a rental car or a hotel or whatever.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 23, 2018 08:41 PM (2NqXo) 379
seriously looked like she was trying not to laugh through that whole interview. I know I'm right.
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 23, 2018 08:36 PM (dUJdY) They are all actors following a script. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:41 PM (g4lFK) 380
372 334 Police trade in glocks. Hardly used.
https://tinyurl.com/yb539uuv Get them while they are hot. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (Dp6qK) Are these good deals? Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 08:39 PM (TXMX/) They appear to be. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:41 PM (NWiLs) 381
>>>>Don't want to be a wet blanket, but suppressing fire
into a school with hundreds of screaming kids running around in all directions? They needed to march to the sounds of the guns and take him out one on one. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 08:28 PM (+Dllb) I didn't suggest that at all. Get the aforementioned vantage point and keep him pinned. I'm actually a little annoyed you think I'd suggest blind firing into a school. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 08:32 PM . . .I just read and responded to your post, didn't mean to annoy you. But everyone needs to remember this kid was walking through a School shooting kids who were screaming and running all over the place while he was shooting at random according to their statements. They were not going to pin him down with fire without causing innocent bystander causalities themselves even if they did actually go into the school. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 08:41 PM (+Dllb) 382
First time I saw Johnny Weir, I thought it was a tranny, and the sorriest, laziest excuse for one I ever saw. Didn't even shave its legs, wearing some sort of crazy dress looking thing.
I had no idea. I still don't really. Pan-gender I guess? Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February you know there is a lot to hate about the whole tranny issue. however, one thing I think we can all agree on is that if you are going the whole tranny route the least you can do is make sure you are fucking hot and keep yourself up. Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:41 PM (MTjB1) 383
if a suicide bomber goes blooey, they blame the bomber or Islam
When has the press ever blamed Islam? They blame the US or Israel. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 08:42 PM (fVubI) 384
Does anyone here believe any of these cops feel any shame whatsoever? Just this morning we were afraid (or not) that Peterson would off himself after PDT called him out.
Now, I'm not so sure. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:42 PM (JxYR+) 385
Ya gotta do it.
Ya gotta. Ya gotta do it. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Commentor...now with Black Panther Review at February 23, 2018 08:39 PM (xJa6I) They're in the shopping cart. Can't pull the trigger. Papa needs a new computer and tires for truck. *ponders* Ah ha! Mama needs a G17, G26, and G35. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2018 08:42 PM (Dp6qK) 386
The trip has been great. I had an awesome trip to Corregidor yesterday.
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 23, 2018 08:20 PM (5fRCd) Great! So happy you were able to go there after missing out the first time. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2018 08:43 PM (Dbv1R) 387
If Trump had not cut the funding for the 36 M-1 Abrams tanks for the Broward County Sheriff`s Departments advanced tactical strike force, those officers could have responded promptly and saved children`s lives. We don`t need teachers with guns, we need heavy weaponry to counter the fire power of m-16 assault machine guns...CNN
Posted by: Tentotwo at February 23, 2018 08:43 PM (yhf6w) 388
Gives new meaning to the old saying "When seconds count, the police are minutes away".
Posted by: Morton at February 23, 2018 08:43 PM (sIsKn) 389
The Coward County "Sheriff" is apparently tight with Debbie Waterhead-Slutz, and is a transplant from Chicagoland.
Big surprise. Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 23, 2018 08:43 PM (BPTve) 390
I see Tucker's last show being an opening unapproved monologue where he tells the live audience that everything on MSM tv is completely scripted and 100% propaganda from wanna be actors and actresses.
He is close to the Fuck You level of non compliance. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:44 PM (g4lFK) 391
As long as everyone is talking about making schools more like prisons, I propose taking over actual prisons and making them into, you know, schools.
A panopticon with a guard tower. Take that, you little fuckers Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 08:44 PM (z2W2E) 392
Its a systematic deliberate fail, they would not arrest kids who needed arresting because it would mess with their fed Cash flow, and bad cops are rewarded with cushy school jobs
Posted by: bonzoboy at February 23, 2018 08:44 PM (/lb39) 393
Ya gotta do it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Commentor...now with Black Panther Review at February 23, 2018 08:39 PM (xJa6I) I had not seen the Ruger PC Carbine until somebody referenced it last thread. I will own one. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 08:44 PM (fiGNd) 394
The Coward County "Sheriff" is apparently tight with Debbie Waterhead-Slutz, and is a transplant from Chicagoland. Big surprise. Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 23, 2018 08:43 PM (BPTve) Is he the big mouth who was getting in Dana's face at Tapped Out's evil kids' circus? Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:44 PM (JxYR+) 395
381. Ever fired a weapon indoors with no hearing protection? Cruz was deaf after his first shot - they could get up on him without his hearing. Secondly - a SINGLE FUCKING ROUND in his direction would cause him to turn away from shooting students. It does NOT require suppressive fire from a light smg to accomplish this.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 08:44 PM (fA1SL) 396
Police trade in glocks. Hardly used.
https://tinyurl.com/yb539uuv Get them while they are hot. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (Dp6qK) Are these good deals? Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February sure, until you buy one, something goes wrong at a traffic stop, the cops confiscate your gun and the report from the crime lab comes back and matches your gun to a pile of drug dealer corpses found in the woods and bullets removed from the walls of drug dealer homes. Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:44 PM (MTjB1) 397
>> you can do is make sure you are fucking hot and
>> keep yourself up. Ours just can't. You'd think the Caitlyns would look the ladboys in Bangkok, and just give it up. You're a fucking man, dude. Go home. Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at February 23, 2018 08:45 PM (8O3HH) 398
They were not going to pin him down with fire without causing innocent bystander causalities themselves even if they did actually go into the school. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 08:41 PM (+Dllb) I'm not sure I understand why this needs to be spelled out for you in crayon. Somebody above already gave you the solution. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 08:45 PM (TXMX/) 399
Never fired, only dropped once.
Wow. They pulled them? Now, if they were French gendarme surplus... Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 08:46 PM (fVubI) 400
Hang a donut around every kid's neck. Problem solved!
Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 08:38 PM You're a genius! Studonuts. Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 23, 2018 08:46 PM (2NqXo) 401
newly released coward county mass shooting event documents indicate that the deputies were merely following the county sop, which is to nuke it from orbit.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:46 PM (MTjB1) 402
Is he the big mouth who was getting in Dana's face at Tapped Out's evil kids' circus?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:44 PM (JxYR) === Yup. Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (EZebt) 403
Still think no gun control will happen?
"A Republican lawmaker from Florida and a longtime member of the National Rifle Association says he now supports an assault weapon ban. U.S. Rep. Brian Mast is a veteran of the war in Afghanistan and lost both legs when a roadside bomb detonated. He is serving his first term in the House. He says he supports defining what constitutes an assault firearm and not allowing them for future purchase, just as is with fully automatic weapons." Mast is breaking from the vast majority of GOP lawmakers in the wake of last week's school shooting that left 17 people dead. Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (6nRrz) 404
The Coward County "Sheriff" is apparently tight with Debbie Waterhead-Slutz, and is a transplant from Chicagoland.
What's *his* connection to the Pakistani ISI? Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (fVubI) 405
Monk: "Why is the mother fucking building being immediately demolished without an investigation?...
Is that actually true? 'Cause if it is, that's a giant "F*ck All Of You, We Are Burying This" finger to the public. It would be the scandal of the decade (although, to be fair, we seem to be having lots of those now). I seriously cannot imagine this is happening. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (H8S+R) 406
I'm not sure I understand why this needs to be spelled out for you in crayon. Somebody above already gave you the solution.
Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 08:45 PM (TXMX/) Hey ... not a damn thing wrong with spellin' shit out with crayon. How do you think I got outta' high school ? Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (fiGNd) 407
There's somethin' for everyone, and Scott Petey's love was hidin'
Behind his car, he didn't have to prove he was a man One day while Cruz was shootin', more deputies were called in They took turns at hidin', there was four of them Posted by: Mega at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (rv0Fo) 408
>>>>>They were not going to pin him down with fire
without causing innocent bystander causalities themselves even if they did actually go into the school. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 08:41 PM (+Dllb) I'm not sure I understand why this needs to be spelled out for you in crayon. Somebody above already gave you the solution. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 08:45 PM . . .Well then please spell it our for me in crayon. Have you been in an active shooter situation yourself? Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (+Dllb) 409
Flounder, I bet the G22 I carry ain't had 500 rounds through it in 4 years. I practice with a my own G17 and G21. Have no interest in a G22, used or otherwise.
Posted by: Eromero at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (zLDYs) 410
383 if a suicide bomber goes blooey, they blame the bomber or Islam
When has the press ever blamed Islam? They blame the US or Israel. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 08:42 PM (fVubI) No, for a Muslim suicide bomber, they tell us that it is just one radical and perhaps mentally ill individual and not to condemn Islam as a whole. With a school shooter, the NRA and each and every gun owner needs to answer for it. Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 08:48 PM (sdi6R) 411
409 Flounder, I bet the G22 I carry ain't had 500 rounds through it in 4 years. I practice with a my own G17 and G21. Have no interest in a G22, used or otherwise.
Posted by: Eromero at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (zLDYs) Same here. I have a G22 that I still haven't gone through my initial .40 ammo hoard. I just don't enjoy shooting .40. I prefer 9mm or 45. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Commentor...now with Black Panther Review at February 23, 2018 08:49 PM (xJa6I) 412
Gives new meaning to the old saying "When seconds count, the police are TWENTY minutes away".
Posted by: Morton at February 23, 2018 08:43 PM (sIsKn) Fixed for ya Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 23, 2018 08:49 PM (Eu5eZ) 413
So, after the police fail to deal with the killers beforehand, they will let them kill at their leisure.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2018 08:49 PM (uqdlV) Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 08:49 PM (398bZ) 415
Promise me, son, not to do the things I've done
Walk away from trouble if you can Now, it won't mean you're weak if you turn the other cheek I hope you're old enough to understand Son, you don't have to fight to be a man Posted by: Kenny Rogers at February 23, 2018 08:49 PM (2Fv1d) 416
He says he supports defining what constitutes an assault firearm and not allowing them for future purchase, just as is with fully automatic weapons."
Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (6nRrz) Then I guess we get to check #neverkankles math. I ain't surrendering my mag-fed semi-autos. And I've got some beauties. Plenty of food for 'em, too. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 08:50 PM (fiGNd) 417
" Why is the building being demolished without an investigation? "
You have no idea how much I want to believe that this is a joke. Srsly ? Posted by: sock_rat_eez Commenter, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 23, 2018 08:50 PM (H0hPC) 418
Palp and Grump, I finally had a chance to handle a P-64 (one at the range shop). The infamous double-action pull is pretty bad, but not as bad as I expected. I understand you can re-spring the thing to lower that pull, but some say it makes the single-action trigger a hair-trigger.
My no-new-calibers policy remains in force, so no P-64 for me. Which is too bad. There are many of them in almost new condition, for low prices of course. Though I'm not sure about the C and R status (CA, so that's needed for a handgun). And just on time, a guy I've bought from before just texted me that he's thinking of selling what was for a long while my only grail gun - the 2.5-inch barrel Model 19 (the blued Model 66). Have no blued revolvers, have a Model 66 4-inch. Not really in gun buying mode at the moment for many reasons. Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2018 08:50 PM (QDnY+) 419
Gives new meaning to the old saying "When seconds count, the police are TWENTY minutes away".
And have no intention of doing anything. Apparently. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 08:50 PM (fVubI) 420
She seriously looked like she was trying not to laugh through that whole interview. I know I'm right.
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 23, 2018 08:36 PM (dUJdY) ************************* Sadly, Cathy Areu really believes this s*** and that's just her sanctimonious smug look. These woMEN are coming for the men and 2018 -2020. Be afraid ... be very afraid. Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2018 08:51 PM (PvFoN) 421
394. yeah he had orders from CPUSA hq to advance the gun grab agenda on Snake Jake's shitshow
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 08:51 PM (Lk67m) 422
so is it true that the sheriff of coward county was in discussion with the producers of reno 911 to film a reality show in coward county called broward 911?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 08:51 PM (MTjB1) 423
So the Broward County Sheriff's Office SOP for Active Shooter is -
Protect the Deputies, Let the Taxpayers Die. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 23, 2018 08:51 PM (bxLgY) 424
This must be what it felt like when they announced the stand off in the Korean war.
Posted by: nsirchov at February 23, 2018 08:51 PM (VWsDy) 425
408. Clearly, there are only two options - hose the building down with mini-gun fire, or sit outside and wait until the killer finishes his rampage. There's simply no way a single officer, or even a FUCKING SQUAD of them could POSSIBLY do anything.
TL; DR - lie down and die. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 23, 2018 08:51 PM (fA1SL) 426
"What have I done differently than Don Shula or Abraham Lincoln or Martin Luther King, Ghandi?" asked Israel. "Men and women who assume leadership roles surround themselves with people who are loyal, who they can depend on and who they appreciate their skill set." From the story about the appointment practices of the Broward County Sheriff. A tad full of himself, is he not? Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2018 08:51 PM (pNxlR) 427
> "Not any less evil, but understandable."
>> "Yes. How would the fact set be different if the authorities wanted something like this to occur?" There would be few dots that connect to the political decision makers who made the choices that brought us to this situation. Posted by: Innocent Bystander And one of those "political decision makers" has been Israel himself. Take a quick perusal of this Florida newspaper article describing the cadre of political flunkies and other leftist activists that he's hired for the last two years to staff his department: https://tinyurl.com/ycyfzjnv Btw, one of them is: "Nezar Hamze, an activist who is regional operations director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations Florida. He's working as a sheriff's deputy, at a salary of $49,274." Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 23, 2018 08:51 PM (WXasw) 428
so is it true that the sheriff of coward county was in discussion with the producers of reno 911 to film a reality show in coward county called broward 911?
The idea was a comedy filmed just like "Cops". With a mix of "Serpico" from the official corruption. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 08:52 PM (fVubI) 429
Actually, you guys are off a bit.
When seconds count, police are already on the scene. But they are too cowardly to act. Posted by: Malcolm Tent, Commentor at February 23, 2018 08:53 PM (JdioD) Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 08:53 PM (z2W2E) 431
Cruz's adopted family was wealthy as fuck btw. They owned lots of rental property. Cruz's adopted mother wanted or sold it all before she died. Cruz told the military Intel family he was set to inherit 800K when he turned 22 from his mom since she died.
Crazy that a kid set to inherit almost a million bucks in a couple of years would do this. Maybe it's the low IQ autism. The stench of Oklahoma City is huge with this. Timothy McVeigh totally acted alone you know. Take your Sleep pills, and Sex Pills, and Job Pills. We need to acknowledge the commie problem and fast. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:53 PM (g4lFK) 432
The Coward County "Sheriff" is apparently tight with Debbie Waterhead-Slutz, and is a transplant from Chicagoland.
Big surprise. Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 23, 2018 08:43 PM (BPTve) I heard he's a big political hack and hired a lot of the same for the department. But they'll still keep blaming the NRA and guns for their failure and incompetence Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 08:54 PM (SiINZ) 433
Ricky Scott wants to raise the age for any firearm purchase to 21. But wait...there's more!!
He also wants to give the popo the ability to determine someone is "mentally ill" on the spot and prevent that person from buying a gun. What could possibly go wrong? Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 08:54 PM (6nRrz) 434
@ 427: Yes, you're reading that correctly: In 2016 Sheriff Israel deputized the Florida regional head of CAIR.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 23, 2018 08:54 PM (WXasw) 435
What damned fool thinks you can take a school shooter with only 100,000 men? I'll need at least a million men and 2 years of drilling.
Posted by: Sheriff George McClellan at February 23, 2018 08:54 PM (HScFq) 436
From the story about the appointment practices of the Broward County Sheriff. A tad full of himself, is he not?
Lincoln rather famously appointed people who disagreed with him. This clown needed yes-men around him to get away with his crap. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 08:54 PM (fVubI) 437
if a suicide bomber goes blooey, they blame the bomber or Islam When has the press ever blamed Islam? They blame the US or Israel. Posted by: Rob Crawford The first thing they say is THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM!!! Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2018 08:54 PM (IqV8l) 438
The acronym sro should be stricken. A person reading about that acronym may not understand it refers to that cowardly deputy sheriff who pushed children out of his way as he ran down the hall seeking shelter from the murdering slaughter that he was sworn to stop.
Posted by: gNewt at February 23, 2018 08:54 PM (6PlZp) 439
Well then please spell it our for me in crayon. Have you been in an active shooter situation yourself?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (+Dllb) Allow me to borrow one from ScoggDog. Odds are fairly low of causing bystander casualties unless he has a hostage or they're just spraying fire blindly. Any halfway decent LEO will be able to track down an assailant and throw a little suppressive fire at him. Just a couple rounds clanging around him likely changes the scenario immediately and puts the shooter on the defensive. Cliff Notes version from my phone. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 08:55 PM (TXMX/) 440
Art 9 sec 2 a of their union contract says that " When one or more cops are confronted with an actual active shooter situation at a school, a union meeting automatically convened. Quorum Rules are suspended for the duration of that meeting."
Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2018 08:55 PM (AhPGR) 441
Does anyone here believe any of these cops feel any shame whatsoever? Just this morning we were afraid (or not) that Peterson would off himself after PDT called him out.
Now, I'm not so sure. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:42 PM (JxYR+) I have strong doubts...have from the beginning. There's a cold calculation to sit for 4 minutes or more. I wonder if they have the sociopathic wiring...so they don't have the normal kind of conscience. CEOs often have it too. It allows them to be ruthless and successful. People think it means killers, but it's rare they go that way. They do lack empathy and sympathy...but they can fake it. Anyway, I do wonder if they fall on that scale. Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 23, 2018 08:55 PM (hLB6Q) 442
"Nezar Hamze, an activist who is regional operations director for the
Council on American-Islamic Relations Florida. He's working as a sheriff's deputy, at a salary of $49,274." Hamze advised a local mosque to arm itself in defense. That's not a joke. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 08:55 PM (fVubI) 443
AP - A woman close to the man charged with killing 17 people at a Florida high school warned the FBI in chilling detail that he had a growing collection of guns and a temper so uncontrollable she worried about him "getting into a school and just shooting the place up."
Well it had nothing to do with undermining Trump so why should they have bothered? Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 08:55 PM (SiINZ) 444
405 Monk: "Why is the mother fucking building being immediately demolished without an investigation?...
Is that actually true? 'Cause if it is, that's a giant "F*ck All Of You, We Are Burying This" finger to the public. It would be the scandal of the decade (although, to be fair, we seem to be having lots of those now). I seriously cannot imagine this is happening. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (H8S+R) Yes this is true. They Broward County voted on doing it because of the traumatized children excuse. I'll search for the link. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:56 PM (g4lFK) 445
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No pensions were injured during this episode of bravery...all home safely doing the family thing. Posted by: Tentotwo at February 23, 2018 07:45 PM (yhf6w) lol Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 23, 2018 08:56 PM (7+qdf) 446
Crazy that a kid set to inherit almost a million bucks in a couple of years would do this.
Lunatics aren't known for their long-term planning. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 08:56 PM (fVubI) Posted by: Bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 08:56 PM (RFYR/) 448
I agree with Scogg. Disrupt the OODA loop of the shooter and options open up. You do not need tons of firepower.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at February 23, 2018 08:57 PM (G8hDY) 449
434 @ 427: Yes, you're reading that correctly: In 2016 Sheriff Israel deputized the Florida regional head of CAIR.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 23, 2018 08:54 PM (WXasw) ****************** You didn't get that from CNN, did you.... Posted by: torabora at February 23, 2018 08:57 PM (AhPGR) 450
I wonder if they have the sociopathic wiring...so they don't have the normal kind of conscience.
Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 23, 2018 08:55 PM (hLB6Q) Hey !!! How about lightening up a bit on those folks who may be, how shall I say, somewhere on the Sociopathic Spectrum. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 08:57 PM (fiGNd) 451
Everyone considered him the coward of the county,
He never stood a single time to prove the county wrong.. His momma named him Scotty, But folks just called him yellow... Posted by: With apologies to Kenny Rogers at February 23, 2018 08:57 PM (z79tQ) 452
427
And one of those "political decision makers" has been Israel himself. Take a quick perusal of this Florida newspaper article describing the cadre of political flunkies and other leftist activists that he's hired for the last two years to staff his department: https://tinyurl.com/ycyfzjnv Btw, one of them is: "Nezar Hamze, an activist who is regional operations director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations Florida. He's working as a sheriff's deputy, at a salary of $49,274." Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 23, 2018 08:51 PM (WXasw) The crazy idea that this was deliberately allowed to happen is now approaching Occam's Razor territory. Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 08:58 PM (sdi6R) 453
Any man who won't risk his life to defend a child isn't a man.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 23, 2018 08:58 PM (xQfPr) 454
The remaining good cops must be empowered to get the bad apples out of policing. I'd rather be undermanned with good people that have bad cops on the beat or at the station.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 08:58 PM (hyuyC) 455
God, you people are acting just like the Left.
Putting all the blame for all the problems on Israel. *Walks away* *Picks up the pace* *Runs like hell* Posted by: Robert never saw a cheap joke he didn't like at February 23, 2018 08:59 PM (ayUOl) 456
Any man who won't risk his life to defend a child isn't a man.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 23, 2018 08:58 PM (xQfPr) I feel the same way about any dude that wouldn't tap Justin Trudeau's old lady ... Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 08:59 PM (fiGNd) 457
What do you want to bet that 20 years from now, there will be a campaign of sympathy for this asshole shooter (I refuse to say or type his name)?
"Ohhh, he messed up when he was a kid but he's so much better now! He's so, so, so sowwy!!!" Also, great to hear that when the libs get him sprung, he'll come into a ton of money. Ugh. I personally hope he gets shanked in jail, like Dahmer did. Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2018 08:59 PM (eMKNe) 458
Any man who won't risk his life to defend a child isn't a man.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 23, 2018 08:58 PM (xQfPr) And that, my friends, may well be the thread winner. Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:59 PM (JxYR+) 459
This Rick Scott is something else....
"The governor's plan calls for a new "see something, say something" hotline, website and mobile app. And to help pay for it, Scott said he is considering abandoning more than $180 million in planned tax cuts and urged lawmakers to temporarily shelve plans for pursue money for hometown projects." $180M to set up a hotline run by the likes of Broward deputies. Un-Fucking-Real Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 08:59 PM (6nRrz) 460
We have to remember to be sympathetic to these guys. They weren't there to be real cops. Their job was to hush up crimes that might get a high school student thrown in jail, and hurt their chances at graduation, and hurt the school's rating, until the school could expel the kids it finally couldn't handle.
... Posted by: Axebot at February 23, 2018 08:59 PM (x46jH) 461
Scott will bury Nelson.
Posted by: Yor, Hunter from the Future at February 23, 2018 09:00 PM (Jj+59) 462
Mast is breaking from the vast majority of GOP lawmakers in the wake of last week's school shooting that left 17 people dead.
Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (6nRrz) Sounds like he lost his balls, as well as his legs. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2018 09:00 PM (Dbv1R) 463
if the school is being immediately demolished, where will classes be held? Where have they been meeting since the shooting?
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 09:00 PM (Lk67m) 464
The remaining good cops must be empowered to get the bad apples out of policing. I'd rather be undermanned with good people that have bad cops on the beat or at the station.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 08:58 PM (hyuyC) LOL, good one! Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 09:00 PM (TXMX/) 465
444 405 Monk: "Why is the mother fucking building being immediately demolished without an investigation?...
Is that actually true? 'Cause if it is, that's a giant "F*ck All Of You, We Are Burying This" finger to the public. It would be the scandal of the decade (although, to be fair, we seem to be having lots of those now). I seriously cannot imagine this is happening. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (H8S+R) Yes this is true. They Broward County voted on doing it because of the traumatized children excuse. I'll search for the link. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 08:56 PM (g4lFK) They all support the decision to demolish it but no formal decision is set in stone. Read between the lines from this local article. http://archive.is/p6UIl Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:00 PM (g4lFK) 466
The governor's plan calls for a new "see something, say something" hotline, website and mobile app.
Why ? They didn't act on the shit they already knew. Cruz held a gun to someone's head, for cryin' out loud, and didn't go to jail. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:01 PM (fiGNd) 467
No see something, say something, without DO SOMETHING!!
Posted by: Axebot at February 23, 2018 09:01 PM (x46jH) 468
When I was told that it had just "come out" that there was a deputy who sheltered in place for four minutes while kids were murdered, I said "Oh really? Let's find out if his bosses are Friends of Hillary". I fucking meant it but didn't actually want to believe it. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by: at at at at at February 23, 2018 09:01 PM (rv0Fo) 469
Hey Ace, this important: earlier today Dom at BroScienceLife posted a SJW video. Everyone should see it before it's deleted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZzgRQrqig
It's sidebar-worthy. Forgvie me if I repost in the ONT and/or the Morning Update. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at February 23, 2018 09:01 PM (rnXGe) 470
Yes, you're reading that correctly: In 2016 Sheriff Israel deputized the Florida regional head of CAIR.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 23, 2018 08:54 PM (WXasw) And he makes $50,000. And CAIR got shooting lessons. Oh yea, this guy is great. Didn't think I could despise him as much as the cowards, but I do. Wonder what he turned a blind eye to Mooslem wise. Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 23, 2018 09:01 PM (hLB6Q) 471
Come to think of it, why have I never seen a mosque get shot up?
Could it be the fear of getting the shit shot out of you with a 100% guarantee? Hmmmmmm. I want anyone who wants to disarm America to start with the mosques Churches and Temples, the mafia and MS13. When you are done there. Lets talk about how well it went and if I can still own a gun. Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 23, 2018 09:01 PM (7+qdf) 472
Is he the big mouth who was getting in Dana's face at Tapped Out's evil kids' circus?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 08:44 PM (JxYR+) ***************************** Yes,he's the one and all the time he knew the truth but covered the incompetence by taking the blame off himself and shifting it to the NRA. He's a liar and needs to resign. Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2018 09:02 PM (PvFoN) 473
The crazy idea that this was deliberately allowed to happen is now approaching Occam's Razor territory.
No, it's not. The sheer inaction -- from the multiple tips, the history of violence, and especially during the shooting -- is sufficiently damning. You don't need to go into cuckoo-land and start down the "LIHOP" idiocy the left wallowed in after 9/11. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:02 PM (fVubI) 474
Monk: "Yes this is true. They Broward County voted on doing it because of the traumatized children excuse. I'll search for the link."
Then God Trump Himself needs to order all Federal agencies and resources necessary to intervene and stop what is the contaminating of a crime scene. And I'm not talking about Cruz anymore. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 23, 2018 09:02 PM (H8S+R) 475
if the school is being immediately demolished, where will classes be held? Where have they been meeting since the shooting? Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 09:00 PM (Lk67m) Classes? What classes? The Grieving Students have been on TV pretty much non-stop. And what's a few mil to build a brand new school? Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 09:02 PM (JxYR+) 476
Yes,he's the one and all the time he knew the truth but covered the incompetence by taking the blame off himself and shifting it to the NRA.
He's a liar and needs to resign. Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2018 09:02 PM (PvFoN) And take his farking pension Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 09:02 PM (SiINZ) 477
newly released coward county mass shooting event documents indicate that the deputies were merely following the county sop, which is to nuke it from orbit.
No. shit. I'm shocked. It's bad enough that those family's have to hear about the Broward Coward Posse, but they have to find out their kids safety is just PC posturing by the Sheriffs Office. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 23, 2018 09:02 PM (YYYb4) 478
I feel the same way about any dude that wouldn't tap Justin Trudeau's old lady ...
No woman is so hot I'm willing to expose myself to the entire spectrum of STDs. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:03 PM (fVubI) 479
Yes,he's the one and all the time he knew the truth but covered the incompetence by taking the blame off himself and shifting it to the NRA.
He's a liar and needs to resign. Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2018 09:02 PM (PvFoN) And take his farking pension Posted by: TheQuietMan at February yep. you want these fucktards to start toeing the line, start taking their pensions. Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 09:03 PM (MTjB1) Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at February 23, 2018 09:03 PM (rnXGe) 481
452. he hired commie operatives.
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 09:03 PM (Lk67m) 482
What do you want to bet that 20 years from now, there will be a campaign of sympathy for this asshole shooter (I refuse to say or type his name)?
=== Nor a campaign, nor sympathy,but I do pity the kid. Orphan and fucked up. If the cops had locked him up prior maybe he could've turned out different. All his acting out was crying for it, don't you think? Now he has to pay for his murders, and you're right that's probably going to be with his life. I blame the cops and local gov more, though. Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 09:04 PM (z2W2E) 483
I had a feeling this time would be different and it is different. When a Republican governor of FL jumps on the gun control bandwagon, shit is getting real. And it's not just some bullshit feel good measure gin control. It's going to mean millions of people in FL will no longer have access to guns. The left is winning this and some of you need to wake up to the new reality.
Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:04 PM (6nRrz) 484
....There's a cold calculation to sit for 4 minutes or more. ...
Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel ************ He wasn't calculating in silence. He ran because he heard gunshots. Gunfire is loud. He could hear gunshots, a gun firing one round after another while he cowered behind the car. He new the gunshots were intended to kill and he cowered and listened to them. Posted by: gNewt at February 23, 2018 09:04 PM (6PlZp) 485
Approaching 500... vroom vroom
Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at February 23, 2018 09:04 PM (+ldAm) 486
Hey ... not a damn thing wrong with spellin' shit out with crayon. How do you think I got outta' high school ?
Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 08:47 PM (fiGNd) Climbed through an open window and ran like hell? Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:04 PM (NWiLs) 487
Let me see if I understand correctly. The students are both traumatized children and mature and intelligent political commentators.
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 23, 2018 09:05 PM (5fRCd) 488
Come to think of it, why have I never seen a mosque get shot up?
Because no one wants to risk the secondary explosions. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:05 PM (fVubI) 489
And what's a few mil to build a brand new school?
====== And to make a big show of it, at federal expense! So we all get to pay! Posted by: Bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 09:05 PM (RFYR/) 490
What do you want to bet that 20 years from now,
there will be a campaign of sympathy for this asshole shooter (I refuse to say or type his name)? Posted by: qdpsteve at February 23, 2018 08:59 PM (eMKNe) Hell, there's already girls on social media going, "He's soooo dreammmmyyyy!" Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 09:05 PM (yzxic) 491
The description of the Uber drivers car matches the goldish car from the fucking house where he was staying. Some officials took in the wife Kimberly for questioning or something and then dropped her back off saying she was not involved. They were not local jurisdiction either and it happened the day of the fucking shooting.
How does non jurisdiction agencies move in to detail somebody literally within minutes of the shooting? Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:05 PM (g4lFK) 492
I'm wondering if they didn't do anything because of his last name being "Cruz" -we can't upset the illegals or minorities. Maybe they looked the other way on purpose.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2018 09:05 PM (PvFoN) 493
Any man who won't risk his life to defend a child isn't a man.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 23, 2018 08:58 PM (xQfPr) --- Hey, some of us don't want to miss out on pajamas, hot cocoa, and talking about getting healthcare, if somebody wants to pay for it. Posted by: Modern Man at February 23, 2018 09:05 PM (x46jH) 494
It's not school related but it's pretty well known that coppers are going fetal and laying down in Chicago to stay out of jail, losing their pension or getting sued broke for doing their job. Not sticking up for those deputies in Florida, but maybe that has something to do with their actions, too.
Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2018 09:06 PM (nisXv) 495
483 I had a feeling this time would be different and it is different. When a Republican governor of FL jumps on the gun control bandwagon, shit is getting real. And it's not just some bullshit feel good measure gin control. It's going to mean millions of people in FL will no longer have access to guns. The left is winning this and some of you need to wake up to the new reality.
Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:04 PM (6nRrz) If the left is winning, it's only because the GOPe is pre-emptively surrendering. Which I can totally see them doing. Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 09:06 PM (sdi6R) 496
He wasn't calculating in silence.
He ran because he heard gunshots. Gunfire is loud. He could hear gunshots, a gun firing one round after another while he cowered behind the car. He new the gunshots were intended to kill and he cowered and listened to them. Posted by: gNewt at February 23, 2018 09:04 PM (6PlZp) Exactly. And the Fire Alarm was blaring. And yet in all that, he crouched and did nothing. That's cold. Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 23, 2018 09:06 PM (hLB6Q) 497
If I write out the word fuck my computer is responsible not me. Is that correct?
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 23, 2018 09:06 PM (5fRCd) 498
494 It's not school related but it's pretty well known that coppers are going fetal and laying down in Chicago to stay out of jail, losing their pension or getting sued broke for doing their job. Not sticking up for those deputies in Florida, but maybe that has something to do with their actions, too.
Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2018 09:06 PM (nisXv) ___ That was my initial thought as well. Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:06 PM (6nRrz) 499
And one of those "political decision makers" has been Israel himself. Take a quick perusal of this Florida newspaper article describing the cadre of political flunkies and other leftist activists that he's hired for the last two years to staff his department:
The left including this c*ck muncher wanted to make this their big political push against guns and the NRA now it's starting to blow up in their faces. I hope it fries them all Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 09:07 PM (SiINZ) 500
Climbed through an open window and ran like hell?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:04 PM (NWiLs) Ha. As it turned out ... if you made good grades ... people just assumed you were a good kid. And that lets you get away with a ton of shit. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:07 PM (fiGNd) 501
The left is winning this and some of you need to wake up to the new reality.
Sigh. Our hotlines are now open. Posted by: The AoSHQ Concern Desk at February 23, 2018 09:07 PM (Tyii7) 502
When a Republican governor of FL jumps on the gun control bandwagon, shit is getting real. And it's not just some bullshit feel good measure gin control. It's going to mean millions of people in FL will no longer have access to guns. The left is winning this and some of you need to wake up to the new reality.
We got it. You're surrendering. Again. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:07 PM (fVubI) 503
475. seriously, they haven't gone back to school? I've been busy job hunting so not current w/details.
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 09:07 PM (Lk67m) 504
If the left is winning, it's only because the GOPe is pre-emptively surrendering. Which I can totally see them doing.
Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 09:06 PM (sdi6R) ___ However you want to define it, the left is getting what it wants. Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:07 PM (6nRrz) 505
The crazy idea that this was deliberately allowed to happen is now approaching Occam's Razor territory.
Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 08:58 PM (sdi6R) Allowed moving into working with area. The Commies almost got away with the white nationalist narrative. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:07 PM (g4lFK) 506
I'm wondering if they didn't do anything because of
his last name being "Cruz" -we can't upset the illegals or minorities. Maybe they looked the other way on purpose. Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2018 09:05 PM (PvFoN) I'm just waiting on the lib on lib action when BLM starts harping that they didn't go in and shoot him because he was white. Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 09:08 PM (yzxic) 507
"A tad full of himself, is he not?"
Of course! His deputies scored 100% on their "how to avoid offending caprisexuals*" test. Too bad they spent so much time studying for that one that they had no time for the "protecting innocent schoolchildren" lessons. An anagram for Sheriff Scott Israel is "Ser Roe Fascist Filth". * i.e., goat fuckers Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 23, 2018 09:08 PM (BPTve) 508
502 When a Republican governor of FL jumps on the gun control bandwagon, shit is getting real. And it's not just some bullshit feel good measure gin control. It's going to mean millions of people in FL will no longer have access to guns. The left is winning this and some of you need to wake up to the new reality.
We got it. You're surrendering. Again. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:07 PM (fVubI) __ I'm surrendering? Hmmm. I wasn't aware I had been appointed as the new governor of Florida. Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:08 PM (6nRrz) 509
How does non jurisdiction agencies move in to detail somebody literally within minutes of the shooting?
How do unsupported rumors get started? Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:08 PM (fVubI) 510
Trump's speech.
The louder they squeal, the harder he fights. "They " includes you, Rick Scott - you weak-ass tax-whore progfuck. God.Bless You, President Donald J Trump Posted by: skip intro at February 23, 2018 09:09 PM (BLjCA) 511
494 It's not school related but it's pretty well known that coppers are going fetal and laying down in Chicago to stay out of jail, losing their pension or getting sued broke for doing their job. Not sticking up for those deputies in Florida, but maybe that has something to do with their actions, too.
Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2018 09:06 PM (nisXv) I thought that was gang related. I thinks there's a big difference between that situation and the Florida school. Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 23, 2018 09:09 PM (hLB6Q) 512
"The governor's plan calls for a new 'see something, say something' hotline, website and mobile app."
Screw that. People did see something. And they said something. And there was all sorts of time (literally years) to respond. By layers and layers of government. The Governor is now entering the Pinhead Zone. Let's face it. Those responsible will not be held accountable. Their job is to run away from responsibility and save their phony baloney jobs. I'm disgusted. I was a bit more understanding a few days ago. Not anymore. The waiting period for more facts has been enlightening. CNN et al. can continue EABODs. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 23, 2018 09:09 PM (H8S+R) 513
What? Rush in there and find evidence of a crime when we have been racking up our best month ever for NOT finding evidence of crimes? Have you any idea what that would do to our performance bonuses? My Lord, you people are heartless brutes! -- the Cowardly Four, "Broward's Pride" Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2018 09:10 PM (pNxlR) 514
Monk: "Yes this is true. They Broward County voted on doing it because of the traumatized children excuse. I'll search for the link."
Then God Trump Himself needs to order all Federal agencies and resources necessary to intervene and stop what is the contaminating of a crime scene. And I'm not talking about Cruz anymore. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 23, 2018 09:02 PM (H8S+R) All officials are in favor of it but no offical decision has been made as of 2/16. They want to tear it down now, never let kids back in, and build a memorial. It's unbelievable yet believable looking at past events. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:11 PM (g4lFK) 515
Local cops like these are going to confiscate all the guns?? Yeah, right.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2018 09:11 PM (uqdlV) 516
I saw Kevlar Blanket open for Clapton in 1975. Pretty embarrassing when they played "I shot the sheriff" as a Marley tribute.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2018 09:11 PM (ewxPW) 517
What's the name of the script for filtering comments?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:11 PM (fVubI) 518
"Conservative" Rick Scott's plan:
- 21 to buy any gun - 3 day wait period - $180M spent on a new hotline - cops can on the spot confiscate guns from "mentally unstable" people - cops, teachers, family, friends and basically anyone can get a temporary order to ban anyone from getting a gun if they appear to be "mentally unstable" Phew. Good thing a Democrat isn't in office. Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:11 PM (6nRrz) 519
So, after the police fail to deal with the killers beforehand, they will let them kill at their leisure.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2018 08:49 PM (uqdlV) Well we all know the most important thing is, at the end of their shift, every officer goes home safely! Posted by: Morton at February 23, 2018 09:12 PM (oxpTt) 520
I thought that was gang related. I thinks there's a big difference between that situation and the Florida school.
Yep, I know, and I'm not LE but it sure seems like they're backing off some everywhere in self preservation. Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2018 09:13 PM (nisXv) 521
off topic, but Hannity on Fox is showing highlights of Pres Trump at CPAC today. Why do I still feel good whenever I see the phrase "President Trump"..?
yeah, I know, I just want to say it again. Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at February 23, 2018 09:13 PM (ILitO) 522
Any man who won't risk his life to defend a child isn't a man.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 23, 2018 08:58 PM (xQfPr) --- Especially if he has a gun. Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 23, 2018 09:13 PM (hLB6Q) 523
Local cops like these are going to confiscate all the guns?? Yeah, right.
Ding! A WINNER!!! Plus, the passions of the mob will shift. They'll find someone who misgendered a hentai character or something and their ire will focus there. The serious civil rights people will still be fighting -- despite the endless advice that "this time it's different" and we should just accept it. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:14 PM (fVubI) 524
How does non jurisdiction agencies move in to detail somebody literally within minutes of the shooting?
How do unsupported rumors get started? Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:08 PM (fVubI) It was reported on locally by eye witnesses in a single story. The massive amounts of police and law enforcement presence at that residence. I'll search for that one as well. The evidence is out there. It's shocking that we selectively believe what the lying Administrative State and MSM feeds us. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:14 PM (g4lFK) 525
Hmmmm doesn't look like anthing in Scott's plan would protect any schools....
Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 09:14 PM (z2W2E) 526
I want to see the actual time line of the beginning of the shooting, not theories nor assumptions. Who had the 1st bead on the shooter, where were the 1st shots fired, who was the shooter surrounded by initially? The investigation isn't complete but didn't this start with the FBI individuals neglect to follow thru.
NRA distraction has nothing to do with this tragedy or the real story. That is Media doing their usual ploy to assist in disarming citizens. Not all people are cut out to be in law enforcement, its a distraction to consider otherwise... where some people like to stir and paint with a wide brush while pushing BS cops on a whole are bad. This does not help getting to the facts of the whole matter, lives were lost and injured. Try also taking this up with Politicians, Lawyers, Training, Media. There isn't an industry out there and beyond that does not have proplamatic employee's or lousy training... not one. The Media and chit starters love these twisted stories for sick selfish interest. I find none of this amusing! Posted by: Luann at February 23, 2018 09:15 PM (7ZiDC) Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2018 09:15 PM (uqdlV) 528
@ 427: Yes, you're reading that correctly: In 2016 Sheriff Israel deputized the Florida regional head of CAIR.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 23, 2018 08:54 PM (WXasw) Next we will learn that Rick Scott is best buds with Sheriff Israel, who was a Republican before running for Sheriff. They're all crooks down here. Posted by: girldog at February 23, 2018 09:15 PM (g5YYQ) 529
Always remember to shelter in place. It is your best course of defense.
What about us? We've got our hands full defending the parking lot! Give us a break, will you. We didn't pay into a pension all these years to advance into danger. We'll come help just as soon as it sounds like the bullets have run out. We'll maybe 5 minutes after that. Can never be too safe, you know. Posted by: Broward County Sheriff at February 23, 2018 09:15 PM (gDSJf) 530
Another thing to consider is how embarrassed that deputy would be walking into the school was piss stains all down the front.
Kids can be cruel! Posted by: Axebot at February 23, 2018 09:15 PM (x46jH) 531
Ricky The Rino Scott Sez:
"A program called Violent Threat Restraining Order, which provides a method for courts to prevent people with mental illness or who have made threats of violence from purchasing or possessing guns after a family member or law enforcement officer files a sworn request and shows evidence that a person presents a threat of violence and should not have access to guns." Not mentioned in the press release is the definition of mental illness will include: - the desire to own a gun - voting for Trump Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:15 PM (6nRrz) 532
I'm surrendering? Hmmm. I wasn't aware I had been appointed as the new governor of Florida.
Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:08 PM (6nRrz) The Florida governor didn't just vote 71-35 against an assault weapons ban. Let him out himself as scum. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 09:16 PM (TXMX/) 533
The four deputies didn't want to be the first authorities at any agency to actually do their jobs.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 23, 2018 09:16 PM (Ndje9) 534
If we banned guns, cops wouldn't have to worry about getting shot. Then could all be sure they would go home to their families every night.
Posted by: Ripley at February 23, 2018 09:16 PM (NbRJx) 535
1. Isn't Scott a puffter?
2. I didn't know there was an age minimum for long guns. I thought it was parental discretion. When did they take that right away? Posted by: gNewt at February 23, 2018 09:17 PM (6PlZp) 536
525 Hmmmm doesn't look like anthing in Scott's plan would protect any schools....
Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 09:14 PM (z2W2E) ____ Silly citizen, we don't give a fuck about schools. We care about amassing more power for us and less freedom for you. - Govt Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:17 PM (6nRrz) 537
[cynical me sez the government types start up gun control or abortion crises - depending on party who starts it - to gin up funding with no intention to do much other than whittle at the edges because they need the issue]
Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 09:17 PM (z2W2E) 538
Governor Scott's mouth might be writing checks his ass can't cash.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 09:18 PM (398bZ) 539
Yep, I know, and I'm not LE but it sure seems like they're backing off some everywhere in self preservation.
Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2018 09:13 PM (nisXv) Baltimore and Chicago and gang crimes...yes. They are thankless jobs and often gangbangers they arrest get put right back on the streets. And the last years with BLM have them more cautious in all big cities. But school shootings with a gunman? No. They'd blaze in. Only the lowest of the low would not try to save kids. Chalk and cheese situations. Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 23, 2018 09:18 PM (hLB6Q) 540
It was reported on locally by eye witnesses in a single story. The massive amounts of police and law enforcement presence at that residence.
I'll search for that one as well. The evidence is out there. It's shocking that we selectively believe what the lying Administrative State and MSM feeds us. Lots of shit gets reported. Eyewitness accounts are... not reliable. How does the witness know they're not from the jurisdiction? Do they know all the uniforms? How do they know there's no multi-jurisdictional task force already set up -- most regions have disaster/mass-casualty plans already set up, after all. Why is a lot of police at the home of a mass-murderer surprising? And, BTW, I'm not "selectively believing" the official line. I'm asking that inflammatory statements be backed up, and that people don't lose their minds either in despair or in a witchhunt. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:18 PM (fVubI) 541
If we banned guns, cops wouldn't have to worry about getting shot. Then could all be sure they would go home to their families every night.
Posted by: Ripley We should just ban crime, then they could all work from home. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 23, 2018 09:18 PM (HScFq) 542
Yes, you're reading that correctly: In 2016 Sheriff Israel deputized the Florida regional head of CAIR.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 23, 2018 08:54 PM (WXasw) It's time to put that douche on the hot seat Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 09:19 PM (SiINZ) 543
Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:08 PM (6nRrz)
I got a different take on this. Surprise, right ? Bear with me on this. Firstly ... Gun Laws, like most everything else, SHOULD be written at the State Level. The notion of Incorporation - the Federal Power of enforcing The Bill of Rights - was not originally part of the deal. The Feds used Incorporation to get their nose in the tent. So ... let's say Florida lets this go through - and 18 year olds can't buy a long-gun. I call that bullshit - but it's Florida's call. And if we find that the majority of Floridians are against such bullshit - but their State Government forced said bullshit upon them via Force of Arms - let me know. Because that would be cause for Revolution. And I'm not joking on that. Not. One. Bit. However - if the majority of Floridians think 21 is the minimum age for a long-gun ... I don't care. Any more than I cared about the stupidity of New York's latest law ... or Connecticut's stupid fucking registration. Why don't I care ? Not because of a "more than ten miles away" head in the sand attitude ... but because I vigorously defend Indiana's right to set gun laws in our own state. As it turns out - we really like our guns. Just as much as Texas. So Florida, New York, and Connecticut must set their own as well. Florida fucks up Gun Laws enough ... and I'll avoid the state entirely. Just like I avoid Illinois, New York, California, and the rest. Hell - I won't vacation at Myrtle Beach because South Cackolacky won't honor my Concealed Carry Permit. Just my two cents. Usually about two cents more than needed. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:19 PM (fiGNd) 544
Top 5 Important Things for Police:
1. Keeping the coffee hot and fresh 2. Making sure donuts don't get stale 3. Sending Democrats yearly contributions 4. Using online calculators to see how to best take advantage of pension/overtime 5. Pretend to give a fuck about citizens Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:19 PM (6nRrz) 545
[oh hey - baby girl is now starting to walk]
Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 09:19 PM (z2W2E) 546
Why do I still feel good whenever I see the phrase "President Trump"..?
yeah, I know, I just want to say it again. Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at February 23, 2018 09:13 PM (ILitO) --- Because there's no chyron that's gonna say "President Hillary Clinton". Posted by: Axebot at February 23, 2018 09:20 PM (x46jH) 547
So Scott can issue decrees?
Oh - you mean the legislature has to pass these proposals into law. And they have to survive court challenges. The "left" is losing on guns everywhere except the states now exploiting the collapse of the judicial system. Odds are the system will be revived WRT the 2A before too long, and may well sweep aside the toxic crap from the lawless states. The "left" has lost the broad public opinion battle - or there'd have been "action" after the last 2 or 3 hyped shooting events. There wasn't. Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2018 09:20 PM (QDnY+) 548
Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:19 PM (fiGNd)
___ That's a fair point. And I agree with it in theory. But you know very well it doesn't end with FL. The left is like the fucking terminator, it will never stop until its goals are met. And giving them a win in FL only emboldens them for the next fight. Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:21 PM (6nRrz) 549
We should just ban crime, then they could all work from home. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 23, 2018 09:18 PM (HScFq) Isn't crime already banned? Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 09:21 PM (TXMX/) 550
Come to think of it, why have I never seen a mosque get shot up?
Well they want to be remembered as a mass shooter, not a racist. If a gunman shot up a Mosque the media would crucify the gunman's reputation. When it's just white children, your reputation as a troubled youth can remain untarnished. Posted by: Malcolm Tent, Commentor at February 23, 2018 09:21 PM (JdioD) 551
The Sheriff needs to fire the 4 deputies who sat by their cars "cowering", then needs to quit himself. Disgusting.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at February 23, 2018 09:21 PM (DxWUs) 552
Plea deal to avoid death penalty and allow a traumatized community avoid a trial (real investigation following proper procedures) to move on.
http://archive.is/uAhPt I'm not making this shit up. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:21 PM (g4lFK) 553
The "left" is losing on guns everywhere except the states now exploiting the collapse of the judicial system.
____ I take it you haven't read up on the new gun laws in CA, NJ and WA. Nothing to do with courts in those 3 states that have gone on a gun ban frenzy this year. Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:22 PM (6nRrz) 554
But school shootings with a gunman? No. They'd blaze in. Only the lowest of the low would not try to save kids.
=== I remember as a kid at fire drills they'd say oh, hey never pull that red boxxy thinger there bigby becoz those fire guys take it so seriously, that's kids you know, and you'd put em through the wringer, etc etc now fuck if i know maybe they'd rather fuck around in the firehouse and eat chili and shit Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 09:22 PM (z2W2E) 555
keep in mind, when one kind of gun is banned, it isn't long before the same people demand that another kind of gun be banned.
I think we all know that the ultimate goal is to only allow .22 air pistols. Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at February 23, 2018 09:22 PM (ILitO) 556
5. Pretend to give a fuck about citizens
Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:19 PM (6nRrz) --- Hey pal, number 5 can get tricky! Posted by: Coward County Cop at February 23, 2018 09:22 PM (x46jH) 557
I'm wondering if they didn't do anything because of his last name being "Cruz" -we can't upset the illegals or minorities. Maybe they looked the other way on purpose.
Posted by: redridinghood Pure speculation at this point. Conservative Tree house has a column reviewing their previous research into Miami-Dade and Broward counties crime stat program that lead to several police jurisdictions ignoring and covering up crime especially by high school kids. Link in nic. Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 23, 2018 09:22 PM (KXVP7) 558
Not mentioned in the press release is the definition of mental illness will include:
- the desire to own a gun - voting for Trump Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:15 PM (6nRrz) ***************** and will probably be decided by the 9th Circus or some CNN panel. We're screwed. Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2018 09:23 PM (PvFoN) 559
Hell - I won't vacation at Myrtle Beach because South Cackolacky won't honor my Concealed Carry Permit.
Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:19 PM (fiGNd) What state? Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 09:23 PM (yzxic) 560
Ricky Scott will issue EOs for his proposals. And yeah someone will sue and a friendly judge will throw it out. SCOTUS has indicated they want nothing to do with guns right now and would most likely not hear the case.
Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:24 PM (6nRrz) 561
Isn't crime already banned?
Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers Needs to be double-secret banned. Things must be done. Awareness raised. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 23, 2018 09:24 PM (HScFq) 562
Chalk and cheese situations.
I hope so. I don't know how anyone could live with themselves knowing they could have done something. I'll bet there are a shitload of kids and teachers that will have bad nights for a long time thinking about that thing they could have done. This country needs a guy like Trump. Posted by: dartist at February 23, 2018 09:24 PM (nisXv) 563
I take it you haven't read up on the new gun laws in CA, NJ and WA. Nothing to do with courts in those 3 states that have gone on a gun ban frenzy this year.
Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:22 PM (6nRrz) Ah yes, you're right. Real bastions of conservatism in those states. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 09:24 PM (TXMX/) 564
I guess my issue with a States rights theory of gun control is that the 2A is very clear that rights shall not be infringed. By anyone. To me that, along with the 10A, makes me believe that gun control is not a state power at all.
I guess I figure that if the Framers thought states could ban guns on their own, they would not have bothered with the 2A at all. Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at February 23, 2018 09:24 PM (G8hDY) 565
What state?
Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 09:23 PM (yzxic) South Carolina. Never heard it called South Cackolacky ? Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:25 PM (fiGNd) 566
peripherally related, you know the scorn, ridicule, an humiliation that are being heaped on the coward of broward county?
that is the way it is supposed to work. Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 09:25 PM (MTjB1) 567
That must be one helluva hotline to cost $185 million.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 09:25 PM (398bZ) 568
if crime were banned, Hillary would...
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at February 23, 2018 09:25 PM (ILitO) 569
That must be one helluva hotline to cost $185 million.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed The first minute is only $1.99, but then it gets way pricier. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 23, 2018 09:26 PM (HScFq) 570
South Carolina. Never heard it called South Cackolacky ?
Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:25 PM (fiGNd) I meant what state do you have your permit from? We just got reciprocity with them here in Georgia about 18 months ago. One of the last things Haley did before going to the UN. Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 09:26 PM (yzxic) 571
reported on locally by eye witnesses in a single story. The massive amounts of police and law enforcement presence at that residence.
I'll search for that one as well. The evidence is out there. It's shocking that we selectively believe what the lying Administrative State and MSM feeds us. Lots of shit gets reported. Eyewitness accounts are... not reliable. How does the witness know they're not from the jurisdiction? Do they know all the uniforms? How do they know there's no multi-jurisdictional task force already set up -- most regions have disaster/mass-casualty plans already set up, after all. Why is a lot of police at the home of a mass-murderer surprising? And, BTW, I'm not "selectively believing" the official line. I'm asking that inflammatory statements be backed up, and that people don't lose their minds either in despair or in a witchhunt. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:18 PM (fVubI) The fucking person taking her in said they were not local authorities and said they had no connection with the family and that's it. Why was a plea deal offered the next day to avoid the death penalty if he admitted it and to prevent the trauma of Broward County of a real trail which would involve a real investigation following the procedures? His own lawyers words btw. http://archive.is/uAhPt Any answers? Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:26 PM (g4lFK) 572
I think we all know that the ultimate goal is to only allow .22 air pistols.
_---------------- You'll put your eye out, kid!! Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2018 09:27 PM (uqdlV) 573
That's a fair point. And I agree with it in theory. But you know very well it doesn't end with FL. The left is like the fucking terminator, it will never stop until its goals are met. And giving them a win in FL only emboldens them for the next fight.
Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:21 PM (6nRrz) ******************** Neither fatalism nor predestination are big concepts around here. Posted by: gNewt at February 23, 2018 09:27 PM (6PlZp) 574
> Seriously, I think Coral Springs got fed up and decided to tell the true story.
Pretty much. The Coral Springs chief sent an email to his officers stating that the truth was going to come out. He sounded quite pissed in the email. That's understandable, since the Coral Springs cops are the ones who actually went in after the perp while Israel's "men" cowered in the parking lot. Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 23, 2018 09:27 PM (BPTve) 575
563 I take it you haven't read up on the new gun laws in CA, NJ and WA. Nothing to do with courts in those 3 states that have gone on a gun ban frenzy this year.
Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:22 PM (6nRrz) Ah yes, you're right. Real bastions of conservatism in those states. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 09:24 PM (TXMX/) ___ Who said they were? I was responding to the statement that the left is losing on guns "everywhere". Plus add to that the NY/CT post Sandy Hook gun bans and the forthcoming gun grab in FL and you're talking close to 70-80M people affected by just those states alone. That isn't losing "everywhere". Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:27 PM (6nRrz) 576
We should just ban crime, then they could all work from home.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 23, 2018 09:18 PM (HScFq) Isn't crime already banned? Cities should be crime free zones, with those line through the circle signs and everything. Posted by: tu3031 at February 23, 2018 09:28 PM (O5Q3r) 577
I don't know how anyone could live with themselves knowing they could have done something.
=== There's always been people like that. Ship's captains what don women's clothing and jump into the lifeboats etc Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 09:28 PM (z2W2E) 578
531. um no. You're really bringing the hair on fire verbiage. Whatever u do, avoid the Aquanet.
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 09:28 PM (Lk67m) 579
"I think we all know that the ultimate goal is to only allow .22 air pistols. "
No, those won't be allowed either. You can put your eye out with one of those. Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 23, 2018 09:28 PM (BPTve) 580
567 That must be one helluva hotline to cost $185 million.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 09:25 PM (398bZ) ___ It will be staffed by govt employees so take a regular call center, multiply the costs by 10 and you get $180M. Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:29 PM (6nRrz) 581
Radio preacher said arm all the teachers. When the villain comes to the door she shoots him. End of story.
Scogg is correct about each state making its own decisions. It's a lesson DC should learn. Posted by: gNewt at February 23, 2018 09:29 PM (6PlZp) 582
Ricky Scott will issue EOs for his proposals. And yeah someone will sue and a friendly judge will throw it out. SCOTUS has indicated they want nothing to do with guns right now and would most likely not hear the case.
OK, you've already lost. The rest of us haven't. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:29 PM (fVubI) 583
In fact, talking with cops, they nearly all seem to be on a page where if SHTF they'd all just disappear. We pay them to keep that from happening in the first place.
Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 09:29 PM (z2W2E) 584
The dude deserves death. How convient Commie Broward county offers a plea deal to avoid death so no real trial (and investigation) can take place.
Moar coincidences and shit. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:29 PM (g4lFK) 585
I meant what state do you have your permit from? We just got reciprocity with them here in Georgia about 18 months ago. One of the last things Haley did before going to the UN.
Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 09:26 PM (yzxic) Oh ... sorry. Indiana. We're Shall Issue. I think that queers the deal with some states. SC is still Go Fuck Yourselves Hoosiers ... per USA Carry. And you know what - I believe in Federalism. That's South Carolina's right. It's their State. It's my right to avoid it. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:30 PM (fiGNd) 586
3rd time tonight
It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine. Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM If a mass shooting is in progress, it goddam well is his job to charge in there and stop it. Posted by: Butch at February 23, 2018 09:30 PM (hXu8T) 587
582 Ricky Scott will issue EOs for his proposals. And yeah someone will sue and a friendly judge will throw it out. SCOTUS has indicated they want nothing to do with guns right now and would most likely not hear the case.
OK, you've already lost. The rest of us haven't. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:29 PM (fVubI) ____ Yeah cuz judges nationally are knows for their strong pro-2A stance right? Especially in Hawaii, I think. Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:31 PM (6nRrz) 588
Who said they were? I was responding to the statement that the left is losing on guns "everywhere". Plus add to that the NY/CT post Sandy Hook gun bans and the forthcoming gun grab in FL and you're talking close to 70-80M people affected by just those states alone.
That isn't losing "everywhere". Posted by: Mailman's Son Kasich at February 23, 2018 09:27 PM (6nRrz) Some parts of this country are already lost, and sadly won't be retaken peacefully. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 09:31 PM (TXMX/) 589
582 Ricky Scott will issue EOs for his proposals. And yeah someone will sue and a friendly judge will throw it out. SCOTUS has indicated they want nothing to do with guns right now and would most likely not hear the case. OK, you've already lost. The rest of us haven't. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:29 PM (fVubI) Neverskankles isn't really worth listening to. According to him Trump has already sold us out 300 times and amnestied every illegal. Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2018 09:31 PM (cAnNx) 590
Radio preacher said arm all the teachers. When the villain comes to the door she shoots him. End of story.
=== old black guy in the elevator was saying that at work. Everyone scoffed. He was maintenance though Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 09:32 PM (z2W2E) 591
Oh ... sorry. Indiana.
Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:30 PM (fiGNd) Ah. I think South Carolina's issue is with training requirements (or lack thereof). That was the holdup with GA: shall issue with no training requirements. There was finally enough bitching by CCW folks on both sides of the border that SC finally approved the reciprocity. Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 09:32 PM (yzxic) 592
It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine.
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM Broward Commune Police: Our manual says to act like Barney Fife Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 09:32 PM (SiINZ) 593
Guess we won't be seeing this on COPS.
Posted by: Fox2! at February 23, 2018 09:32 PM (brIR5) 594
SWEEP THE LEG!!
Posted by: Wayne Chang the Booty Tang at February 23, 2018 09:32 PM (F55lq) 595
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The dude deserves death. How convient Commie Broward county offers a plea deal to avoid death so no real trial (and investigation) can take place.
Moar coincidences and shit. Posted by: Monk If only we had a Republican Attorney General, he could start a federal civil rights investigation, to bypass local corruption. If only... Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 23, 2018 09:33 PM (HScFq) 597
Broward Commune Police: Our manual says to act like Barney Fife
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 09:32 PM (SiINZ) That's not fair. Barney would've nipped it in the bud. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:33 PM (NWiLs) Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2018 09:33 PM (uqdlV) 599
- 21 to buy any gun
- 3 day wait period - $180M spent on a new hotline - cops can on the spot confiscate guns from "mentally unstable" people - cops, teachers, family, friends and basically anyone can get a temporary order to ban anyone from getting a gun if they appear to be "mentally unstable" ------------- you see, if a GOP wrote this, there'd be protections against false accusations by overzealous liberals. A process to become mentally stable. Also, I think it's bullshit this whole domestic violence means no gun. Cops arrest anyone anytime for bullshit. People think life is like one big episode of Cops,shot through an Oxygen TV lens. Nah, you get into a argument with your girl and the neighbors complain, you're a gun free loser. Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 09:33 PM (V3U1L) 600
Neverskankles isn't really worth listening to. According to him Trump has already sold us out 300 times and amnestied every illegal.
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2018 09:31 PM (cAnNx) When we're talking about Debbie Downers, and we're NOT talking about me ... something is seriously wrong. What the Hell ... do I have to go Counter-Counter-Contrarian ? Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd) 601
Didn't they demolish the school after Sandy Hook?
Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 09:34 PM (sdi6R) 602
Broward Commune Police: Our manual says to act like Barney Fife
--- Um no. Barney would have nipped it the bud, Andy. Nipped. It. In.The.Bud. Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 09:34 PM (z2W2E) 603
I have the sadz for my home state being betrayed.
Posted by: Gmac-Native in exile at February 23, 2018 09:34 PM (4pjhs) 604
I would say that President Trump should take over the Coward County sheriffs department because of it's corruption but isn't that usually a FBI thing......///
Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2018 09:34 PM (kufk0) 605
Neverskankles isn't really worth listening to. According to him Trump has already sold us out 300 times and amnestied every illegal.
Posted by: buzzion at February 23, 2018 09:31 PM (cAnNx) ___ First off.....damn Mailman Sock! Ugh. Second, did I say anything about Trump? He's - so far - holding steady. And I applaud him. But in the past 12 hours, Ricky Scott has gone full gun control as has a Republican US rep from FL. Marco Rubio says he's good with banning some guns. Jeff Flake is doing a Jeff Flake. They're starting to fall one by one. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 09:35 PM (6nRrz) 606
My no-new-calibers policy remains in force, so no P-64 for me.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2018 08:50 PM (QDnY+) That's what I said and suddenly I have a two can crate of surplus 7.62X25. But, I can quit anytime I want. *shiftyeyes* Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2018 09:35 PM (yQpMk) 607
I see the GOP establishment has come back to life and expects that this time the left will love them if they disregard their base.
The right wing needs to re-normalize our beliefs. We can't let them pretend only one side of the argument exists. I guess I got to join the NRA Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 09:35 PM (V3U1L) 608
none of this would have happened if Hillary had stolen Pennsylvania and Michigan. More evidence that if there is a God She is angry with us.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at February 23, 2018 09:35 PM (ILitO) 609
Ship's captains what don women's clothing and jump into the lifeboats etc
----- And Red Indians... and sort of idealized Renaissance Flemish burghers. Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2018 09:35 PM (ewxPW) 610
Ah. I think South Carolina's issue is with training requirements (or lack thereof).
Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 09:32 PM (yzxic) I think so. But if they would just get to know us ... they'd realize that we're culturally bred to be competent with firearms. And also screwing our distant cousins. But not sisters. Because that's some fucked up Kentucky shit. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:35 PM (fiGNd) 611
The fucking person taking her in said they were not local authorities and said they had no connection with the family and that's it.
I believe you read this somewhere, but I have no idea how to assess that source's reliability, or where they got it. Why was a plea deal offered the next day to avoid the death penalty if he admitted it and to prevent the trauma of Broward County of a real trail which would involve a real investigation following the procedures? I'm not his lawyer. But I'd suspect a plea deal is being offered because he's admitted his guilt and doesn't want to die. It also means the survivors won't have to testify and the taxpayers don't have to pay for the trial. I'd rather see him fry, but, hell, I don't think he'll have a long life in prison. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:36 PM (fVubI) 612
There's always been people like that. Ship's captains what don women's clothing and jump into the lifeboats etc
Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands ------------ As I recall, the Italian captain of the Costa Concordia didn't even do that. He just bailed. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2018 09:36 PM (c/EDo) 613
you see, if a GOP wrote this, there'd be protections against false accusations by overzealous liberals. A process to become mentally stable.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 09:33 PM (V3U1L) ___ It will be enforced by a judge. And we all know liberal judges are fair, especially to gun owners. So I guess I have nothing to worry about. My bad. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 09:36 PM (6nRrz) 614
599 - 21 to buy any gun
- 3 day wait period - $180M spent on a new hotline - cops can on the spot confiscate guns from "mentally unstable" people - cops, teachers, family, friends and basically anyone can get a temporary order to ban anyone from getting a gun if they appear to be "mentally unstable" Fuck all that shit, especially those last two items. Those are a wide open invitation for abuse by cops and everyone else. Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:36 PM (NWiLs) 615
You are misunderstanding the doctrine on how police departments are supposed to react to an active shooter. My agency had a policy that first on the scene were to immediately enter the building to engage the shooter. No waiting on backup. We did drills in our high school, too.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 23, 2018 08:27 PM (5Yee7) >>> I wonder what the Broward County Sheriff's Department policy is? Maybe the Broward County deputies were following their doctrine (wait for SWAT or wait for ???), and the Coral Gables police were following theirs (immediate entry to confront shooter)? When will the f*cking press ask about this? Sheriff Israel may have a lot more to answer for. Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2018 09:37 PM (AMIL/) 616
I'm off to the neighborhood bar where, incidentally, I can carry. Y'all take care!
Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 09:37 PM (yzxic) 617
I guess I got to join the NRA
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 09:35 PM (V3U1L) Gun Owners of America. Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 09:37 PM (TXMX/) 618
What the Hell ... do I have to go Counter-Counter-Contrarian ?
Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd) Counter-Counter-Counter-Counter-Counter- Con-trar-e-an! A Zero's a NO He oughtta know... Posted by: Culture Club Redux at February 23, 2018 09:37 PM (z79tQ) 619
618 What the Hell ... do I have to go Counter-Counter-Contrarian ?
Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd) Counter-Counter-Counter-Counter-Counter- Con-trar-e-an! A Zero's a NO He oughtta know... Posted by: Culture Club Redux at February 23, 2018 09:37 PM (z79tQ) Trace buster buster buster! Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:38 PM (NWiLs) 620
Posted by: Culture Club Redux at February 23, 2018 09:37 PM (z79tQ)
Dude ... or Dude-Ette ... Golf Clap. Golf. Clap. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:40 PM (fiGNd) 621
Occam's Razor is getting pretty close to this entire event being another in a series of Reichstag Fire provocations. From our friends on the Left.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:40 PM (hyuyC) 622
is mailman's son a regular commenter or just me of those demoralzers sent by the commies? There's an acronym for what they do Fuck if I remember it.
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 09:40 PM (Lk67m) 623
I guess I got to join the NRA
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 23, 2018 09:35 PM (V3U1L) Gun Owners of America. --- Seconded. NRA is spam central Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 09:41 PM (z2W2E) 624
I wonder what the Broward County Sheriff's Department policy is?
Apparently they call in the Smoking Man from X-Files to arrange a vast conspiracy to do something or other. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:41 PM (fVubI) 625
As I recall, the Italian captain of the Costa Concordia didn't even do that. He just bailed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2018 09:36 PM (c/EDo) Aye, after makin' out with me girlfriend I noticed the ship was sinkin', so I did what all good captains do; bailed on me crew and ship. Posted by: Captain Coward of the Costa Concordia at February 23, 2018 09:41 PM (BwJGV) 626
The under reported activity shit at the Snead's house including unmarked Cars and plain clothes taking in who appears to be Kimberley, the wife of the Military Intel husband where Cruz was living. Her car matches the discription of the Uber car btw. Nope nothing to see along with taking with the plea deal to avoid the trauma of a real trial and wanting to immediately demolish the building and the shooter being sweat and blood and clothes cleaned and pressed caught after leaving a subway or Micky D's. Let's not forget the child actors and Nellie Ohr and other Commie connections as well. This would amd could never happen in America because transparent and shit. SFW.
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1519347990653.jpg Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:41 PM (g4lFK) 627
Occam's Razor is getting pretty close to this entire event being another in a series of Reichstag Fire provocations. From our friends on the Left.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:40 PM (hyuyC) Ah man ... I remember referencing a Reichstag Fire when I first found the Horde. I miss the ridicule. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:41 PM (fiGNd) 628
is mailman's son a regular commenter or just me of those demoralzers sent by the commies?
It's neverskankles. Who is always advising us on how horribly we've lost on everything. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:42 PM (fVubI) 629
Dude ... or Dude-Ette ... Golf Clap.
Golf. Clap. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:40 PM (fiGNd) *Elvis voice* Thank you. Thank you very much. but scattershot gets an occasional hit Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2018 09:42 PM (z79tQ) 630
622 is mailman's son a regular commenter or just me of those demoralzers sent by the commies? There's an acronym for what they do Fuck if I remember it.
Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 09:40 PM (Lk67m) ___ It's my sock, didn't realize I left it on. And yeah, I forgot, pointing out the obvious about the spineless cave of the GOP today means I'm a plant or something. OK. Never mind. Scott didn't cave. The NRA didn't lose all its corporate partnerships today. Marco Rubio didn't endorse banning some guns on the CNN show trial. All is well. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 09:42 PM (6nRrz) 631
I'm just waiting on the lib on lib action when BLM starts harping that they didn't go in and shoot him because he was white.
Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 09:08 PM (yzxic) ******************** I'm sure a plan is in the works... Soros is probably having signs printed up for the rally. Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2018 09:43 PM (PvFoN) 632
615 You are misunderstanding the doctrine on how police departments are supposed to react to an active shooter. My agency had a policy that first on the scene were to immediately enter the building to engage the shooter. No waiting on backup. We did drills in our high school, too. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 23, 2018 08:27 PM (5Yee7) >>> I wonder what the Broward County Sheriff's Department policy is? Maybe the Broward County deputies were following their doctrine (wait for SWAT or wait for ???), and the Coral Gables police were following theirs (immediate entry to confront shooter)? When will the f*cking press ask about this? Sheriff Israel may have a lot more to answer for. Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2018 09:37 PM (AMI Hmm Where no two may be alike? Posted by: Luann at February 23, 2018 09:43 PM (7ZiDC) 633
Ah man ... I remember referencing a Reichstag Fire when I first found the Horde.
I miss the ridicule. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:41 PM (fiGNd) Well, it's not like the Reichstag is going to burn itself. Posted by: Whatever at February 23, 2018 09:43 PM (sXefu) 634
Apparently they call in the Smoking Man from X-Files to arrange a vast conspiracy to do something or other.
Posted by: Rob Crawford Unfortunately he was 3rd base umpire at the Illuminati vs Freemasons softball game that day. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 23, 2018 09:44 PM (HScFq) 635
Occam's Razor is getting pretty close to this entire event being another in a series of Reichstag Fire provocations.
No, it's not. Shit happens without a secret hand manipulating it. Sheriffs can be corrupt and incompetent without it meaning they're part of a secret cabal. Gun-grabbers can be opportunistic without it meaning they've arranged everything in advance. Don't be a KosKid. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:44 PM (fVubI) 636
624 I wonder what the Broward County Sheriff's Department policy is?
Apparently they call in the Smoking Man from X-Files to arrange a vast conspiracy to do something or other. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:41 PM (fVubI) Nice deflection and name calling ridicule.. Why do you refuse to ignore the facts, which add up to a coverup, which The Administrative Commie State and MSM have been caught in several times now. We should ignore all facts and fact finding and believe what proven liars spoon feed us like children. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:44 PM (g4lFK) 637
Who is always advising us on how horribly we've lost on everything.
Usually wrong, but never in doubt. Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2018 09:44 PM (yQpMk) Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:44 PM (hyuyC) 639
If I had run the scene, I would have cut off everybody's nuts
Posted by: undocumented illegal Elizabeth Carlisle at February 23, 2018 09:45 PM (e8kgV) 640
All is well.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 09:42 PM (6nRrz) Oh bullshit. Now come on - we're pretty much on the same side here. You're saying "Everything is going to Hell". And Most of Us are saying "Yeah - there's gonna' be a fight if they keep this shit up". You just don't think there'll be a fight. That's the only difference. Man - I'm telling you - and my record has been pretty good - they keep this up - there's gonna' be one Hell of a fight. Now - we may lose. But that's an ass-whippin' they'll have to put on me. One way or the other. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:45 PM (fiGNd) 641
bustier
Posted by: gNewt at February 23, 2018 09:46 PM (6PlZp) 642
621 Occam's Razor is getting pretty close to this entire event being another in a series of Reichstag Fire provocations. From our friends on the Left.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:40 PM (hyuyC) I said earlier today that half of the shit going on is starting to look like false flag attacks. We know the Left is willing to kill innocents when they're in power. Why shouldn't they do likewise when they're trying to seize power? Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 09:46 PM (sdi6R) 643
Don't be a KosKid.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:44 PM ( Should their be a preservation of all evidence and facts for a full investigation, yes or no? Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:46 PM (g4lFK) 644
No, it's not. Shit happens without a secret hand manipulating it. Sheriffs can be corrupt and incompetent without it meaning they're part of a secret cabal. Gun-grabbers can be opportunistic without it meaning they've arranged everything in advance.
Don't be a KosKid. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:44 PM (fVubI) __ Total coincidence that David Hogg's dad is FBI and that he was on the scene in CA when a local news camera was rolling. Nothing to see here folks...keep moving.... Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 09:47 PM (6nRrz) Posted by: IrishEi at February 23, 2018 09:47 PM (HiDrR) 646
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1519347990653.jpg
PhotoShop collages are not sources. I have no idea where any of that came from. For all I know, it's from /b/ and is intended to troll people. And yeah, I forgot, pointing out the obvious about the spineless cave of the GOP today means I'm a plant or something. The GOP caved? Oh, the *FLORIDA* GOP caved, maybe (nothing's actually been done yet; the one vote that has been taken was a loss for the gun grabbers). The state party that gave us such stalwarts as Jeb and that one guy who jumped parties after being a "rising star" in the GOP. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:47 PM (fVubI) 647
"A tad full of himself, is he not?" ------------------- Well, he can't spell "Gandhi." So he's not much of a threat, is he. I get a kick out of big rough guys who compare themselves to "Napolean" or "Jiulus Ceaser." Also, this proves that his sheriff's uniform is... Kakky. Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 09:47 PM (H5rtT) 648
POTUS has directed the Pentagon to organize a military parade for Veteran's Day.
Is it May Day in Moscow or Nuremberg? I can't keep up. Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2018 09:48 PM (yQpMk) 649
Get back on the fucking ship, Schettino!
Posted by: Italian Coast Guard at February 23, 2018 09:48 PM (skuoa) 650
642 621 Occam's Razor is getting pretty close to this entire event being another in a series of Reichstag Fire provocations. From our friends on the Left.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:40 PM (hyuyC) I said earlier today that half of the shit going on is starting to look like false flag attacks. We know the Left is willing to kill innocents when they're in power. Why shouldn't they do likewise when they're trying to seize power? Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 09:46 PM (sdi6R) This kind of thinking like demanding a full investigation of all evidence and facts will only get you called names by some conservatives. Even after the 2016 election. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:48 PM (g4lFK) Posted by: Malcolm Tent, Commentor at February 23, 2018 09:48 PM (JdioD) 652
well, the reasonable interpretation of the broward county sheriff department's deputies behavior is that they wee primarily concerned with preserving the crime scene so that they could make sure the bodies were correctly identified and were able to be returned to their families immediately.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 09:49 PM (MTjB1) Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 23, 2018 09:49 PM (z2W2E) 654
in other news, there are reports out that each broward county deputy is only issued one round.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 23, 2018 09:49 PM (MTjB1) 655
Oh, the *FLORIDA* GOP caved, maybe (nothing's actually been done yet; the one vote that has been taken was a loss for the gun grabbers). The state party that gave us such stalwarts as Jeb and that one guy who jumped parties after being a "rising star" in the GOP.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:47 PM (fVubI) _____ Rick Scott signed a bill in 2011 that forbade doctors from asking about guns in the home. Now the same guy has decided that anyone whose g/f calls the police and says "my boyfriend is crazy" will no longer be able to buy a gun. But yeah.....we're totally winning. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 09:50 PM (6nRrz) 656
649 Get back on the fucking ship, Schettino!
Posted by: Italian Coast Guard at February 23, 2018 09:48 PM (skuoa) I be too drunk to stand! Posted by: Captain Coward of the Costa Concordia at February 23, 2018 09:50 PM (BwJGV) 657
WD is in the house.
Posted by: tbodie at February 23, 2018 09:51 PM (FDy65) 658
Oh, the *FLORIDA* GOP caved, maybe (nothing's actually been done yet; the one vote that has been taken was a loss for the gun grabbers). The state party that gave us such stalwarts as Jeb and that one guy who jumped parties after being a "rising star" in the GOP.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:47 PM (fVubI) So ... I travel alot for my job. I'm sure I've mentioned that. Worked a few power plants outside Orlando. Worked outside Tampa. I don't know about the entire state - but I can't imagine those people turning in their guns, or taking their sons and daughters not being able to buy guns. Those people in those plants - to the individual, regardless of race, religion, or sex - were good folks. As redneck as anybody. I've suggested to MrsScogg about moving to some of those small towns. I just don't see this going anywhere. I do see Rick Scott not continuing as Governor. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:51 PM (fiGNd) 659
"Why does anyone need a tactical rifle?"
"Because you are asking that question." Posted by: Malcolm Tent, Commentor at February 23, 2018 09:48 PM (JdioD) Do you mean a 5 shot bolt action Remington 700 with 4-16x50 scope? Cuz that's for hunting when it's not being used for work. Posted by: Lon Horiuchi at February 23, 2018 09:51 PM (z79tQ) 660
I think the military parade is kinda cringy myself. But I know it will drive leftists insane, so parade on baby!!
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 09:51 PM (6nRrz) 661
I saw Ralph Peters on FBN today. He's calling for the ban of "assault" weapons. Ralph went off the rails along time ago. I don't know why anyone wastes air time on him any more Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 23, 2018 09:52 PM (SiINZ) 662
Should their be a preservation of all evidence and facts for a full investigation, yes or no?
To what ends? 1) There will never be an investigation that will quiet all the conspiracy theories. You could have every molecule of the site examined and every second of everyone's actions accounted for, and someone will claim there was a cover up. 2) The guilty party is admitting guilt. What would a trial do? If he was pleading innocent, I'd be right there with you. He's not. Investigations into *why* the tips were not followed, why he was never charged for past violence or involuntarily committed, why the officers did nothing are a different matter. None of those require the crime scene. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:53 PM (fVubI) 663
ONT is up
Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2018 09:54 PM (AMIL/) 664
I just don't see this going anywhere. I do see Rick Scott not continuing as Governor.
Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 09:51 PM (fiGNd) ___ He's running for senate this year so no matter what happens he will not be governor for long. Which is how Republicans always seem to operate. When it's close to retirement time their true socialist colors come out. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 09:54 PM (6nRrz) 665
Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:47 PM (fVubI)
Yes or No. Should there be a preservation of evidence and all facts following correct procedures or not? Do you agree that this should be avoided to prevent trauma from the people of Broward County as Cruz lawyer stated in an article about the point of the plea deal which I linked? Do you believe the building should be demolished like Broward County wants to do as stated in a link from a news I posted? These are simple questions you ignore and instead name call. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:54 PM (g4lFK) 666
O.N.T.
Posted by: tbodie at February 23, 2018 09:55 PM (FDy65) 667
I just don't see this going anywhere.
Yeah, I can't find any news of Scott actually doing anything within his power that hurts gun owners. He's going to make some proposals, some of which aren't bad, as I see it. http://bit.ly/2BMsHek Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2018 09:57 PM (yQpMk) 668
Trump has ordered a military parade.
It's going to be yuuge. That may be a trip worth making. Second thought. There will be SFBs in the crowds. Posted by: gNewt at February 23, 2018 09:57 PM (6PlZp) 669
Investigations into *why* the tips were not followed, why he was never charged for past violence or involuntarily committed, why the officers did nothing are a different matter. None of those require the crime scene.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:53 PM (fVubI) >>> When the families of the slain and wounded file their lawsuits against Broward County, discovery may be a BITCH for Sheriff Israel and a lot of other Broward officials. I wonder how many copies of that BleachBit program have been sold recently to customers in Broward County? Posted by: Gref at February 23, 2018 09:57 PM (AMIL/) 670
662 Should their be a preservation of all evidence and facts for a full investigation, yes or no?
To what ends? 1) There will never be an investigation that will quiet all the conspiracy theories. You could have every molecule of the site examined and every second of everyone's actions accounted for, and someone will claim there was a cover up. 2) The guilty party is admitting guilt. What would a trial do? If he was pleading innocent, I'd be right there with you. He's not. Investigations into *why* the tips were not followed, why he was never charged for past violence or involuntarily committed, why the officers did nothing are a different matter. None of those require the crime scene. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 23, 2018 09:53 PM (fVubI) Read my linked article where the next day his own attorney said they have reached a plea deal to avoid death penalty AND TO AVIOD A FULL TRIAL WHICH WOULD CAUSE PIAN TO A TRUMATIZED BROWARD COUNTY. No trial no investigation. So you are in favor of this, yes? Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 09:57 PM (g4lFK) 671
Pure speculation at this point.
Conservative Tree house has a column reviewing their previous research into Miami-Dade and Broward counties crime stat program that lead to several police jurisdictions ignoring and covering up crime especially by high school kids. Link in nic. Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 23, 2018 09:22 PM (KXVP7) ********************* Very Interesting. Hopefully the layers of the onion are peeled away and all of this is exposed to EVERYONE. Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2018 09:59 PM (PvFoN) 672
Why was the Uber driver not identified? Why is the MSM not following this lead of the car that matches the car from the Snead's house?
Why? The Uber driver would be a gold mine of a story for business and yet they can't locate and name this key witness. Really jogs the noggin. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 10:00 PM (g4lFK) 673
It's my sock, didn't realize I left it on.
And yeah, I forgot, pointing out the obvious about the spineless cave of the GOP today means I'm a plant or something. OK. Never mind. Scott didn't cave. The NRA didn't lose all its corporate partnerships today. Marco Rubio didn't endorse banning some guns on the CNN show trial. All is well. Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 09:42 PM (6nRrz) ------ It is clear to you are a micro kinda Aspy scale guy. Have you tried looking at things from a more macro level? Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 23, 2018 10:00 PM (/zp4x) 674
Even Barney fired one bullet.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 23, 2018 10:01 PM (Ndje9) 675
Where in the USA are the scenes of murder not sealed off for preserving evidence and all witnesses statements taken and all facts taken in as well?
Why is this being tried in real time on the MSM tv? This is not proper procedure. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 10:03 PM (g4lFK) 676
Seriously, why isn't this sheriff out of his job.
Didn't a 17 year old girl state in some video that they had an affair and that he forced her to have an abortion. Posted by: redridinghood at February 23, 2018 10:03 PM (PvFoN) 677
When it's close to retirement time their true socialist colors come out.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 23, 2018 09:54 PM (6nRrz) Now By God, you hit that nail right on the head. kankles ... we ain't arguing. I'm just trying to tell you shit might not be as bad as you think. OK ... I just pondered that. Me telling anybody Shit Ain't That Bad is really dicked up. Posted by: ScoggDog Commenter at February 23, 2018 10:04 PM (fiGNd) 678
Jane D'oh -- Consider yourself lucky that all you had to do was watch your MiL and her sister eat dinner for an hour and a half. My MiL and her demented sister lived with us 24/7 for five very long years. When my MiL passed, we put the sister in the nursing home because my MiL was the only person in the entire world she recognized -- only she thought MiL was their grandmother.
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at February 23, 2018 10:08 PM (012yj) 679
Notice how the yes or no questions always get involved if you ask if proper investigative procedure should be followed which included preservation of evidence, a complete fact finding, and taking in all eye witness accounts. And also it seems to be ok to accept a plea deal to avoid death TO AVIOD A TRIAL TO SPARE THE TRUAMTIZED COUNTY WHICH WOULD INVOLVE THE PROPER PROCEDURES TO BE FOLLOWED.
Really activates the 30'sh year old almonds. Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 10:08 PM (g4lFK) 680
The sheriff of Broward county reminds me of the carpet bagger sheriffs installed during reconstruction.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2018 10:11 PM (c/EDo) 681
I've been trying to convince a couple of friends that an AK15 is neither an assault weapon, a semi automatic, or a weapon of war for the past couple of days on FB. Might as well have saved my fingers for typing something useful.
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at February 23, 2018 10:14 PM (012yj) 682
I've been trying to convince a couple of friends that an AK15 is neither an assault weapon, a semi automatic, or a weapon of war for the past couple of days on FB. Might as well have saved my fingers for typing something useful.
In fairness, the AK15 is an assault rifle, it's just very unlikely to be found in the US. http://bit.ly/2BNeayV Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2018 10:19 PM (yQpMk) 683
380 372 334 Police trade in glocks. Hardly used.
https://tinyurl.com/yb539uuv Get them while they are hot. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2018 08:33 PM (Dp6qK) Are these good deals? Posted by: Country Boy binge watches Alaska State Troopers at February 23, 2018 08:39 PM (TXMX/) Look good to me. I want one. Price trends are down though. I can wait. Hoping for a Gen 1 G17, don't care how beat-up it looks. I got one of those surplus Beretta 92S: great shooter, good deal. Posted by: gp at February 23, 2018 10:25 PM (mk9aG) 684
There has to be a former booking before names can be released to the public by officials or they can and will get their ass sued off. Interesting how this did not occur in this case and he has no family to sue the fuck out of Broward County. This is SOP and the law. Funny how his did not occur here and in other things in the past where narratives and policy changes are advanced by The Commie Administrative State.
Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 10:41 PM (g4lFK) 685
I'M GOING IN!!!
Posted by: Mohammed Jihad at February 23, 2018 10:59 PM (AhPGR) 686
Students shoot you!
Posted by: republic of banna at February 23, 2018 11:16 PM (Up8Lm) 687
bsg hardest hit.
Posted by: republic of banna at February 23, 2018 11:18 PM (Up8Lm) 688
What is the Victim Status of the "guard"?
Posted by: Burger Chef at February 23, 2018 11:19 PM (RuIsu) 689
3rd time tonight
It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine They might, but not a requirement. Its not my call just saying what I am told or read. Wish it wasn't so but your life protection isn't anyones job but yours. Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd) It IS a requirement for simple human decency... they have no business being police officers if they are not going to charge in like a marine. Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 24, 2018 12:26 AM (FTXAT) 690
It isn't the police officers job to charge like a Marine
Fine. But they could have crept in like Ninjas. Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 12:35 AM (hLB6Q) 691
I think its pretty obvious by the way #neverskankles is a concern troll.
Posted by: Apache at February 24, 2018 12:55 AM (uc45P) 692
List of companies that are now anti-#2ndAmendment
1 @MetLife 2. @symantec 3. @BestWestern 4. @Wyndham 5. @Alamo 6. @NationalPro 7. @Enterprise 8. @FNBOmaha 9. @Hertz 10. @Budget 11. @Avis 12. @NortonOnline 13. @northAmericanVL 14. @SimpliSafe 15. @ChubbNA Posted by: Trigger Warning at February 24, 2018 02:20 AM (YRXy3) 693
Seppuku is for closers.
These guys need a noose around their necks while standing on a foot of ice, in a nice warm Broward County parking lot. The county could pay off a lot of debts from the pay for view. Posted by: Byzantine_General at February 24, 2018 02:33 AM (lnK2O) 694
In 2003 @CNN colluded with the @browardsheriff to lie about the 1994 assault weapons ban #WhatAConcidence #DifferentSheriff #SameLiesAndBullshit
CNN rapped over gun segment - http://go.shr.lc/2FtaWAv Posted by: Trigger Warning at February 24, 2018 02:48 AM (YRXy3) 695
Hell a few shots into the ceiling might have been enough to stop Cruz in his tracks and make him find cover. Killing sprees are all fine and dandy until you hear a gun that's not yours go off.
Another gun in that school might have saved a few lives, 2 guns in that school might have saved everyone, 3 guns in that school may have made this a non-story. Posted by: Reality Man at February 24, 2018 06:50 AM (Ch0fq) 696
We need to give these guys fat pensions and qualified immunity to hide and shit themselves? All that pay and benefits so that when the time comes someone is there to stand up and instead we get these faggots
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