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Gruber Truthers Really Need to Shut The F*** Up Now
Sean Davis calls those on the left contending that Jon Gruber wasn't the architect-architect of Obamacare "Gruber Truthers," and demolishes their silly hackeries in a zesty piece.
Now enter Jonathan Cohn of TNR. Cohn has long been a direct conduit for Obamacare spin from Gruber. As a result, Cohn pitches himself as a true expert on Obamacare, one of the few people who followed every zig and zag of the law as it moved through the legislative process. He then uses this authority-by-osmosis to bash the notion that Obamacare prohibits federal subsidies from flowing through federal exchanges. And how does Cohn describe Gruber? Why, as Obamacare's architect. Over and over and over again. It's almost as if Cohn had a keyboard macro specifically designed to refer to MIT economist Jonathan Gruber as Obamacare’s architect. Let's take a look back at a few of the different ways Cohn described Gruber before the Halbig/King/Burwell unpleasantness began. On May 21, 2010, in an article entitled "How They Did It," here's how Cohn described Gruber:Yesterday, Bret Baier tweeted this old 2010 column from Jane Hamsher of the very progressive Fire Dog Lake blog. Despite being leftist as all get out, Hamsher was a fierce critic of Obamacare. Her column describes how the Administration deployed Jon Gruber, presenting him as a neutral, objective third-party analyst of Obamacare, without disclosing he was in fact on their payroll -- and how the liberal media took his remarks and repeated them hundreds of times, until it seemed like there was a huge consensus on Gruber's plan.MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, one of the plan's architects, led a group of center-left intellectuals who hyped the experiment’s success and touted it as a model for national action in articles, speeches, and consultation with prominent Democratic Party politicians.... Or take this passage by Cohn from May 21, 2012:I'll have more to say about Massachusetts and, in particular, the cost control efforts later in the week. But for now I'll leave you with the verdict of Jonathan Gruber, the MIT economist who was a key architect of both Romneycare and Obamacare[.]Here's how Cohn described Gruber in an article from January 30, 2014:For many people, the Patient CARE Act really would mean cheaper insurance, just like the proposal’s champions say. But that’s because there'd be less security. "It doesn't work if you're poor or if you're sick--other than that, it's ok," quips Jonathan Gruber, the MIT economist and Obamacare architect.Why are all of Cohn’s characterizations of Gruber as the "architect" of Obamacare important? Because Cohn introduced a new Gruber exoneration theory yesterday: sure Gruber was an architect, but not that kind of architect:Let's start with the question of whether Gruber was, as he himself sometimes says, an "architect" of Obamacare. He was, but not in the sense that most people are using the word.That is some straight-up amazing historical revisionism right there. First off, note how Cohn passively lets himself off the hook for his own fawning descriptions of Gruber. Who referred to Gruber as an "architect of Obamacare?" Gruber did. Silly Gruber. And is the use of the word "architec"” important? Well, yes, kind of, but only if you understand what the word architect really means. Come. On. I hate to break it to you all, but Gruber doesn't get to be an architect of Obamacare and Romneycare when you want to use his authority and credentials to bash Republicans or spin for the law, and then radically transform into one of three Jon Grubers who just happens to live in Obama's neighborhood once Gruber becomes a massive liability for the Left.
Up until this point, most of the attention regarding the failure to disclose the connection between Jonathan Gruber and the White House has fallen on Gruber himself.She's referring to a 2010 op-ed by Gruber, praising Obamacare, which ran in the New York Times -- which did not disclose that Gruber was actually a paid consultant on Obamacare.
Far more troubling, however, is the lack of disclosure on the part of the White House, the Senate, the DNC and other Democratic leaders who distributed Gruber's work and cited it as independent validation of their proposals, orchestrating the appearance of broad consensus when in fact it was all part of the same effort. The White House is placing a giant collective bet on Gruber's "assumptions" to justify key portions of the Senate bill such as the "Cadillac tax," which they allowed people to believe was independent verification. Now that we know that Gruber's work was not that of an independent analyst but rather work performed as a contractor to the White House and paid for by taxpayers, and economists like Larry Mishel are raising serious questions about its validity, it should be made publicly available so others can judge its merits.... How did the feedback loop work? Well, take Gruber's appearance before the Senate HELP Committee on November 2, 2009, for which he used his microsimulation model to make calculations about small business insurance coverage. On the same day, Gruber released an analysis of the House health care bill, which he sent to Ezra Klein of the Washington Post. Ezra published an excerpt. White House blogger Jesse Lee then promoted both Gruber's Senate testimony and Ezra Klein's article on the White House blog. "We thought it would all be a little more open and transparent if we went ahead and published what our focus will be for the day" he said, pointing to Gruber's "objective analysis." The "transparent" part apparently stopped when everyone got to Gruber's contractual relationship to the White House, which nobody in the three-hit triangle bothered to disclose. But that was child's play compared to the effort that went into selling Gruber's analysis of the bill unveiled by the Senate on Wednesday, November 18. Two days later on Friday November 20, Gruber published a paper entitled "Impacts of the Senate High Cost Insurance Excise Tax on Wages: Updated," claiming that the excise tax would result in wage hikes of $234 billion from 2013 through 2019. And it was off to the races. The next day on the 21st, Ron Brownstein wrote in the Atlantic about Gruber's effusive praise for the cost-cutting measures in the bill: "Everything is in here...I can't think of anything I'd do that they are not doing in the bill. You couldn't have done better than they are doing," says Gruber.Um, yeah, you can't think of anything you'd do that they weren't doing in the bill because it was your bill, but of course you were hiding that from the public.
On Monday the 23rd, the DNC was sending the Brownstein column around in its entirety...one of 71 emails they would send touting Gruber's work. It was also included in OFA's Monday Morning News Clips on BarackObama.com. On Tuesday the 24th, OFA had another post touting the Brownstein article and citing Gruber as a "self-proclaimed skeptic on this stuff. The DNC sent that around, too. Mike Allen wrote that Obama had made the Brownstein article "mandatory reading" in the West Wing. TPM had the scoop that Rahm Emanuel told senior staffers "not to come back to the next day's meeting if they hadn't read the article." David Brooks of the New York Times was not convinced that the Senate bill would be deficit neutral, so Peter Orszag pointed him to the Brownstein's "insightful article on health care costs" on the White House OMB blog that same day. It's hard to believe Orszag didn't know about Gruber's contract -- a search of the White House visitor logs indicates he met with Gruber on March 26, the day after his HHS contract was first awarded. Paul Krugman cited Gruber's glowing analysis in the Brownstein article -- "this is the best effort anyone has made" -- as one of the reasons he supported the Senate bill, noting that "the health care economists I respect are seriously impressed by the cost-control measures." Rahm Emanuel subsequently cited Krugman and Brownstein to Jonathan Weisman of the Wall Street Journal as evidence of a "progressive backlash against the progressive backlash" to dismiss liberal criticism of the bill. Jeff Bingaman mentioned the Krugman piece on the floor of the Senate, and entered it into the Congressional Record.And so on. (She has a lot more than that, believe it or not.) It was this background that, I think, provoked Jonah Goldberg's disgusted rant on the Bret Baier show, in which Dude Went Off:
In a lot of ways, this spectacle represents not just everything’s that’s wrong with the Obama administration, it's everything wrong with liberalism and a lot that's wrong with America itself. You've got this guy who is pretending to be an objective independent analyst, who's got huge amounts of skin in the game in terms of money he can make off of consulting fees, but also of the prestige being involved and the speeches he could do which haven't been tallied into these numbers -- anyway, it's millions of dollars -- being touted around through a transmission belt of liberal journalists, who all are all pretending to be objective analysts too, quoting each other, reaffirming each other, all with the help of the White House which went along with this soup to nuts -- a process which this guy says was all about lies and misleading the American people. And then when caught about it, the same administration tries to dismiss him as if he was just some sort of random White House intruder. The whole thing stinks. It's not just that's he's getting rich, it's the hypocrisy that every time Republicans complain about ObamaCare, they say "Oh, it's just because those evil, profit-hungry Koch brothers are trying to get rich," which was always a lie. It's also that this law itself makes American life more complex and then there's this leaching new class of people who profit from the complexity that they are imposing upon the society.It's all connected, and it's all corrupt.
Comments
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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 02:50 PM (2Aj5D)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 02:51 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 02:51 PM (sDapq)
Posted by: Roy at November 18, 2014 02:51 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 02:51 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 02:52 PM (2Aj5D)
happens to live in Obama's neighborhood once Gruber becomes a massive
liability for the Left.
Tell me who are the Grubers in your neighborhood?
In your neighborhood?
In your neigh-bor-hood-oh!
Posted by: HR on Sesame Street at November 18, 2014 02:52 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Roy at November 18, 2014 02:53 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: fluffy at November 18, 2014 02:53 PM (Ua6T/)
And it's time for some reporter, any reporter, to stand up at one of those pressers and say " your lying your ass off"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 02:53 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 18, 2014 02:54 PM (1nB6R)
Posted by: heeeyyohhh at November 18, 2014 02:54 PM (oz8xm)
No problem. Attached Keystone to the Budget Bill.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 02:54 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 02:54 PM (2Aj5D)
I have done many chores today.
Done, not in the sense that most people use the word, but in the sense that I have thought about them and thought that the one percent should be paying for a maid.
For the children! Because they're around here somewhere, I think...
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 18, 2014 02:55 PM (0xTsz)
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Uh huh, and that's exactly why silly crap like dumb lawsuits by the HoR or, for that matter, voting for Republicans just because there's an (R) after their names isn't going to address any of this.
If the GOP were serious about getting rid of Ocare, it would be gone.
Posted by: @JohnTant at November 18, 2014 02:55 PM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Jonathan Gruber at November 18, 2014 02:56 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: heeeyyohhh at November 18, 2014 02:54 PM (oz8xm)
Well when premiums have tripled by then and Grandma died because of a Death Panel, and the only DR on your plan speaks pasctun, you might feel different.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 02:56 PM (nzKvP)
This is what I hate the most.
Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2014 02:56 PM (Ae7K+)
Posted by: Steiner 404 at November 18, 2014 02:56 PM (c8Jim)
The Secret Service has already fully investigated his jumping of the White House fence.
Case closed.
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 18, 2014 02:56 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: Citizen X at November 18, 2014 02:57 PM (7ObY1)
New and hot: MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, one of the plan's architects
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 02:57 PM (upVqO)
Nancy Pelosi 2010
Posted by: mrp at November 18, 2014 02:57 PM (JBggj)
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Hey!
Posted by: The American Bar Association at November 18, 2014 02:58 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: fluffy at November 18, 2014 02:58 PM (Ua6T/)
Like, he didn't design an actual building or anything.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 18, 2014 02:58 PM (8ZskC)
"Um, yeah, you can't think of anything you'd do that they weren't doing in the bill because it was your bill, but of course you were hiding that from te"
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 02:58 PM (sDapq)
And this corruption wasn't moonbat blogs. This was NYT, WaPo, Atlantic, -- the prestige prog papers.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 02:58 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: NCKate at November 18, 2014 02:58 PM (m21KY)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 18, 2014 02:59 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Karl Rove at November 18, 2014 02:59 PM (VndSC)
I don't know about that, but I do know there would be evidence that they were fighting harder.
OTOH, if they had been serious about stopping it, it would have been stopped.
There was a thread earlier about "fight fire with fire" or "follow the rule of law."
You know something? The rule of law never says you have to be *nice.* It never says you have to be *polite.* It never says you have to "go along to get along," or "reach across the aisle." There were all kinds of things Republicans could have done to stop ObamaCare- and they chose not to.
Their protestations at how much they want to see it "repealed and replaced" thus ring a bit hollow now.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 02:59 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: MTF at November 18, 2014 02:59 PM (6um35)
Posted by: --- at November 18, 2014 02:59 PM (MMC8r)
In other words, they have been working together and working on health care particularly for years before Obama got elected.
Obama knows exactly who Gruber is and he was a key architect of this plan.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2014 02:59 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: George snuffalupagus at November 18, 2014 03:00 PM (Spluw)
Now to read.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 02:50 PM (2Aj5D)
Yay! You're first!!!
Posted by: EC at November 18, 2014 03:00 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 18, 2014 03:00 PM (J0IP0)
signed, xxoo
the gop
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at November 18, 2014 03:00 PM (Gysa/)
Posted by: Ace at 02:49 PM
The Washington DC/Northeast corridor really does believe in slavery. They just want to be holding the chains themselves.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:00 PM (txvbW)
My Three Sons. With Joey Choo-Choo as Uncle Charley.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 03:00 PM (upVqO)
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2014 03:00 PM (DrWcr)
It depends on what your definition of "architect" is-is. Or, Gruber is not an "architect-architect".
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 18, 2014 03:00 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: NCKate at November 18
Once again the Man keeping a Brother down. IYKWIM
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 03:00 PM (2Aj5D)
Posted by: --- at November 18, 2014 03:00 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Hugh Janus at November 18, 2014 03:00 PM (ucB75)
Posted by: Rings around Uranus at November 18, 2014 03:00 PM (VndSC)
"You go through the gate. If the gate's closed, you go over the fence. If the fence is too high, we'll pole vault in. If that doesn't work, we'll parachute in. But we're going to get health care reform passed for the American people."
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 18, 2014 03:01 PM (XUKZU)
Shitweasels are a product of their twisted environment - the upper intestines.
Posted by: DaveA at November 18, 2014 03:01 PM (DL2i+)
1. Persuade Koch Brothers to buy NBC, or one of the other alphabets, fire all their leftards, and make it into truly conservative network.
2. Create a Kickstarter or GoFundme campaign ostensibly to buy the network back off the Kochs, because "eeevil Koch Brothers". Once the money is raised, buy it back from Kochs, but keep it conservative. Frolic in bath of leftard tears.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2014 02:49 PM (7MWCL)
These are the sorts of ideas we ought to be discussing. They may not work, but it is along these lines that we need to be focusing some of our thinking and our efforts.
The media is the elephant in the room that needs to be evicted.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:01 PM (txvbW)
If the GOP were serious about getting rid of Ocare, it would be gone.
Posted by: @JohnTant at November 18, 2014 02:55 PM (PFy0L)
They're just doing what we pay them for.
Posted by: Chamber of Commerce at November 18, 2014 03:01 PM (c8Jim)
Posted by: George snuffalupagus at November 18, 2014 03:01 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 03:01 PM (ZPrif)
him as if he was just some sort of random White House intruder.<<<
Though with the Secret Service lately... this is very possible.
Posted by: sad but true at November 18, 2014 03:01 PM (nlPax)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 03:01 PM (2Aj5D)
It's a remake of "My Two Dads"
Posted by: fluffy at November 18, 2014 03:02 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: EC at November 18, 2014 03:02 PM (GQ8sn)
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My Three Grubers starring Fred MacMurray.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 18, 2014 03:02 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at November 18, 2014 03:02 PM (znT2j)
Posted by: Luftschiffbau Zeppelin GmbH at November 18, 2014 03:02 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Josef Goebbels at November 18, 2014 03:02 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Chamber of Commerce at November 18, 2014 03:03 PM (c8Jim)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 02:54 PM (2Aj5D)
Did you see the other day where Greenspan (I think it was him) commented regarding ISIS minting gold coins?
"Gold is Currency."
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:03 PM (txvbW)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 03:03 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: maddogg at November 18, 2014 03:03 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Roy at November 18, 2014 03:03 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: fluffy at November 18, 2014 03:02 PM (Ua6T/)
Can you imagine if that really were re-made today?
Though with the Secret Service lately... this is very possible.
Posted by: sad but true at November 18, 2014 03:01 PM (nlPax)
So, is the going theory that the Secret Service is just so drunk/high that they're off their game, or they're seeing if someone will succeed?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:03 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 03:03 PM (upVqO)
It's all connected, and it's all corrupt.
An that is why TBT is coming.
Throwback Thursday is pretty innocuous compared to this.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 03:04 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at November 18, 2014 03:04 PM (oDCMR)
They are getting so much lake effect snow off of Lake Erie southeast of
Buffalo that they are finding frozen walleye and perch in the drifts.
I've got the beer batter...
Posted by: HR on Sesame Street at November 18, 2014 03:05 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: @JohnTant at November 18, 2014 03:05 PM (PFy0L)
And this corruption wasn't moonbat blogs. This was NYT, WaPo, Atlantic, -- the prestige prog papers.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 02:58 PM (ZPrif)
Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding! Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding! Ding!Ding!
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:05 PM (txvbW)
Posted by: Some Guy In The White House at November 18, 2014 03:05 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 18, 2014 03:05 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: Roy at November 18, 2014 03:05 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:05 PM (txvbW)
Warning: you guys look like a bunch of crazy fools making such a big deal over the guy who jumped over the White House fence.
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 18, 2014 03:06 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 03:06 PM (qaepl)
Reminder to the Gruber Truthers: It's not us Tea Party/conservative types he was calling stupid - he was referring to *you*.
Posted by: Hairy Reid at November 18, 2014 03:06 PM (ABcz/)
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I don't know what 'skin in the game' means, is that some sort of dermatological thing?
Was this piece written by one of my adolescent children?
Bwahahahahah...
Posted by: Jonnie Goober at November 18, 2014 03:06 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Roy at November 18, 2014 03:06 PM (VndSC)
********
Shorter less PC Goldberg--
"It's a Circle Jerk!!"
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 18, 2014 03:06 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2014 03:06 PM (ABcz/)
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 18, 2014 03:06 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (Spluw)
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That's nonsense.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 03:01 PM (ZPrif)
The people repeating this must be the same people repeating that Jim Harbaugh is going to be the next football coach at U of M.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (hjTr7)
Posted by: fluffy at November 18, 2014 02:58 PM (Ua6T/)
That may be what "net neutrality" is all about.
Neutering the net so they don't get criticized.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (W5DcG)
Why not subpoena Gruber and ask him what his role was and who he
personally advised. Also ask him about his relationship with Obama since
2006. Put in on the record and see if he takes the fifth on anything.
This will force the Networks to actually cover the story and will
provide insights for the Supremes on what the truth is under oath. Yeah,
he's a crap weasel but what Democrat isn't?
We need a viable opposition party to accomplish any of that. Sadly, we are SOL.
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (XzRw1)
American Commitment @AmerComm 30m
All of #GruberGate in Two Minutes: http://youtu.be/kDomkBtJC7Q http://fb.me/3mAVe18Ev
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (NUCTk)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (JjJUC)
Because none of his previous statements were "on the record." He can repudiate them at will, and there's no proof he was lying.
Put in on the record and see if he takes the fifth on anything.
He doesn't have to. He can just lie.
This will force the Networks to actually cover the story
*snort* Yeah. That's what'll happen. The networks will be forced to cover the story. Uh, huh.
Even saying they are/do, you think they're going to 'cover' it as anything other than "another Conservative witch-hunt?"
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: Jonnie Goober at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: Dr Spank at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (Tu6N6)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:08 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:05 PM (txvbW)
********
I think you might have built it....
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 18, 2014 03:08 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Old MST3K line at November 18, 2014 03:08 PM (W5DcG)
You can trust me. I'm a journalist.
Posted by: Jonathan Chait at November 18, 2014 03:08 PM (Nfdkj)
Isn't embiggening the thread a Barrel offense?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:08 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:01 PM (txvbW)
Misspelled eviscerated.
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 03:08 PM (sDapq)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 18, 2014 03:09 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at November 18, 2014 03:09 PM (uqV2n)
Posted by: Jonnie Goober at November 18, 2014 03:09 PM (l1zOH)
Posted by: The Margins at November 18, 2014 03:09 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Matt Taylor Rocket scientist at November 18, 2014 03:09 PM (c8Jim)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at November 18, 2014 03:04 PM (oDCMR)
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Please. Didn't the IRS and Fast/Furious hearings teach you anything? He's not going to say shit.
Plus, he's a self-admitted liar. Who's going to believe him if he does?
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (qaepl)
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Skin in the game means the tip in their mouth - amIright?
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (oDCMR)
Correct me if Im wrong.... but wasnt there some big flap during the Bush administration that they hired somebody to promote some program.... (sorry my memory's a little hazy on details)... that the MSM pounded on as unethical and evil??? They covered it non-stop for about a week.
Gruber???? Not even hardly a peep.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Erowmero at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (go5uR)
This is really well done.
American Commitment @AmerComm 34m
All of #GruberGate in Two Minutes: http://youtu.be/kDomkBtJC7Q
http://fb.me/3mAVe18Ev
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (ZPrif)
This will force the Networks to actually cover the story
*snort* Yeah. That's what'll happen. The networks will be forced to cover the story. Uh, huh.
It's broken through even to Prog Media. Entire first segment on Morning Joe this morning.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: Prof Grubers' HD at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: maddogg at November 18, 2014 03:11 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 03:11 PM (2Aj5D)
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at November 18, 2014 03:11 PM (X+nFp)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:11 PM (nzKvP)
Those people are like gypsies, gaming the system for a fresh golden parachute every 2-3 years.
Posted by: Jonnie Goober at November 18, 2014 03:11 PM (l1zOH)
I think you might have built it....
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 18, 2014 03:08 PM (RJMhd)
I think so too, though I was hoping no one would notice.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:11 PM (txvbW)
The utter lack of shame of liberals for accepting lying to the American people as a
policy.
I am not surprised, just sadden.
At one time people of different ideas still accepted honesty as something of value.
Where did that go?
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 18, 2014 03:11 PM (0FSuD)
Plus, he's a self-admitted liar. Who's going to believe him if he does?
*****
How did other presidents ever bother agree to appointing special prosecutor?
Pres. stutterfuck makes it look so easy. Just say no.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at November 18, 2014 03:11 PM (Gysa/)
Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2014 03:11 PM (Rx8ML)
Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (ABcz/)
Posted by: Prof Grubers' HD at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (Spluw)
soon...
Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (Ae7K+)
I think you might have built it....
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 18, 2014 03:08 PM (RJMhd)
I think so too, though I was hoping no one would notice.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:11 PM (txvbW)
*******
Ding!
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (RJMhd)
Ireland, the seven members of the New Provo Front. In Canada, the five
imprisoned leaders of Liberte de Quebec. In Sri Lanka, the nine members
of the Asian Dawn movement...
I read about them in Time magazine.
Posted by: Jon Gruber at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (UzPAd)
Isn't embiggening the thread a Barrel offense?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:08 PM (M1uf/)
Uh no. No it isn't.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (txvbW)
Posted by: Barakhenhaten the Tiny at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (NUCTk)
Bet that chick that made it wishes she had copyrighted.
And if she had?
--China
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (upVqO)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (fwARV)
Please. Didn't the IRS and Fast/Furious hearings teach you anything? He's not going to say shit.
Plus, he's a self-admitted liar. Who's going to believe him if he does?
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (qaepl)
You play the tapes on a screen on the side of him and ask him "What did you mean by that" time and again.
Posted by: Steiner 404 at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (c8Jim)
Posted by: MTF at November 18, 2014 03:13 PM (6um35)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (txvbW)
Don't play hard to get sweetie. The end will still be the same.
Posted by: The Barrel at November 18, 2014 03:13 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: @JohnTant at November 18, 2014 03:13 PM (PFy0L)
THREAD WINNER!
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 18, 2014 03:09 PM (0FSuD)
And this time that is probably true. "It's all connected, and it's all corrupt" is indeed a tacit summation of our current system of governance.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:13 PM (txvbW)
And this is the same Senate that some insist would have caved on the shutdown if the Republicans had just held on longer.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2014 03:13 PM (g1DWB)
What we need is a Steve Atwood.
Posted by: Erowmero at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (go5uR
And who the fuck is he?
You mean Lee Atwater?
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 18, 2014 03:13 PM (0FSuD)
They didn't.
Well, W may have because "fairness" or some stupid crap, but prior to that the power rested solely with the Legislature. The Gingrich House appointed Ken Starr all on their own say-so.
Something did (legally) change, there, but I don't remember the details.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:13 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: The children killed by the enterovirus at November 18, 2014 03:13 PM (Spluw)
This is really well done.
American Commitment @AmerComm 34m
All of #GruberGate in Two Minutes: http://youtu.be/kDomkBtJC7Q
http://fb.me/3mAVe18Ev
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (ZPrif)
*********
Ya, that video hits it out of the park.
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 18, 2014 03:13 PM (RJMhd)
You want to help the conservative movement and protect freedom and liberty? Go learn Final Cut Pro and Adobe Premiere. Study film and commercials. Learn how to cut a 2-3 minute video. Learn audio engineering and how to get the levels right and lay a background track.
It's people with good visual arts skills that can cut a good youtube video with good production values that can tell a quick story and be shared on social media.
American Commitment @AmerComm 34m
All of #GruberGate in Two Minutes: http://youtu.be/kDomkBtJC7Q
http://fb.me/3mAVe18Ev
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 03:14 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: CNBC at November 18, 2014 03:14 PM (2iPK7)
I don't think you get to vote on this one.
You have, it would seem, a conflict of interest.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:14 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (RcpcZ)
Bloody hell. Well if i'm to be hung for a goat, I might as well be hung like a horse.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:15 PM (txvbW)
Please. Didn't the IRS and Fast/Furious hearings teach you anything? He's not going to say shit.
Plus, he's a self-admitted liar. Who's going to believe him if he does?
--------------------------------
Putting things on the record under oath has potential. See Lois Lerner run from news cameras and microphones. I'd like to see a bunch of former Dem movers and shakers running away from truth gatherers.
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at November 18, 2014 03:15 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:12
PM (txvbW)
Don't play hard to get sweetie. The end will still
be the same. Posted by: The Barrel
Nobility. All over him.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 03:15 PM (upVqO)
That thing I had Gruber do in your math?
Yeah, never even met the guy....
Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (ABcz/)
Math abhors a Gruber.
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 03:15 PM (sDapq)
Posted by: Erowmero at November 18, 2014 03:10 PM (go5uR
And who the fuck is he?
----
Didnt he do that "Higher Love" chick song during the eighties.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 18, 2014 03:15 PM (NaV4z)
And like a fish rotting from the head down, he's emboldened others to do the same. Which is how you get these Gruber-loving journalist tools now saying, "Gruber who?"
Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2014 03:16 PM (ABcz/)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 03:03 PM (3ZtZW)
^^^ In many ways, the story of Obama (and Gruber) ^^^
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at November 18, 2014 03:16 PM (uqV2n)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:16 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: O at November 18, 2014 03:16 PM (uqV2n)
Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2014 03:17 PM (Ae7K+)
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt
Which helps, whom exactly?
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 18, 2014 03:17 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Oschisms at November 18, 2014 03:17 PM (uqV2n)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 03:17 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (txvbW)
Don't play hard to get sweetie. The end will still be the same.
Posted by: The Barrel at November 18, 2014 03:13 PM (DrWcr)
You'll never take me alive!
From hell's heart, I stab at thee.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:17 PM (txvbW)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 03:17 PM (JtwS4)
It's like a Jackson Pollack painting.
Posted by: Star Lord at November 18, 2014 03:18 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 03:17 PM (JtwS4)
I'm told it's blinding.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:18 PM (M1uf/)
I worked with a guy named Hung Cao.
That's no bull.
Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2014 03:18 PM (Ae7K+)
Nip - Got a new CMS Superintendent yet?
Those people are like gypsies, gaming the system for a fresh golden parachute every 2-3 years.
Posted by: Jonnie Goober at November 18, 2014 03:11 PM (l1zOH)
Cliffs notes.
White guy from CO comes to town. Doesn't put up with lazy Black employees, Black attorney for school board wants a raise for his posse, Super says fuck you.
Amazingly, the Black attorney gins up complaints about "abusive" treatment of staff.
Super says fuck you people. School board run by Blacks fires him. It's a sink hole. The brothers are simply stealing.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 18, 2014 03:18 PM (0FSuD)
That's no bull.
Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2014 03:18 PM (Ae7K+)
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Steer clear of the puns pal....
Posted by: fixerupper at November 18, 2014 03:18 PM (NaV4z)
It's like a Jackson Pollack painting.
Posted by: Star Lord at November 18, 2014 03:18 PM (DrWcr)
Funniest line in the movie. I laughed for a solid three minutes about that.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at November 18, 2014 03:19 PM (fwARV)
In one particularly jarring error, the headline presented for the story broadcast live to tens of millions of viewers read Israeli Police Shot, Killed 2 Palestinians. The headline sparked outrage, with one prominent Israeli activist calling for the CNN reporter responsible to have his press credentials removed.
Jesus how low can they go
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:19 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: Jonathan Gruber at November 18, 2014 03:19 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at November 18, 2014 03:19 PM (oDCMR)
It appears the US Government has gotten too big to survive. Let it fail. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 02:54 PM (2Aj5D)
+ 1,000
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at November 18, 2014 03:19 PM (CzJOg)
And it's all gonna continue, business-as-usual, until an opposition party miraculously appears like Line 2 of the Underwear Gnomes business plan.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 18, 2014 03:20 PM (go6ud)
Posted by: NativeNH at November 18, 2014 03:20 PM (UBetH)
the Grubergate in two minutes really is an awesome video.
the parts with the Queen of Senile crack me up.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 18, 2014 03:20 PM (1nB6R)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at November 18, 2014 03:12 PM (fwARV)
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Yeah. But it's fun to imagine. It's really the only thing we've got now.
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 03:20 PM (qaepl)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at November 18, 2014 03:19 PM (fwARV)
It was pretty damn funny. I also laughed my ass off when StarLord is in the lineup and he does the "turn the crank" thing giving the guards the finger.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2014 03:20 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: NativeNH at November 18, 2014 03:21 PM (UBetH)
Dream on asshole
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:21 PM (nzKvP)
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For us. I question whether the average viewer would grasp what it is about.
Posted by: Jonnie Goober at November 18, 2014 03:21 PM (l1zOH)
So Teh Ewok didn't like the movie either.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 18, 2014 03:21 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: fixerupper at November 18, 2014 03:21 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2014 03:21 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Barakhenhaten the Tiny at November 18, 2014 03:22 PM (NUCTk)
...in other words, nothing will change, we'll go on full steam ahead into the progressive abyss.
Posted by: Null at November 18, 2014 03:22 PM (P7hip)
If we win with Halbig, and the more Gruber opens his mouth the better for us, then yes, Obamacare is gone.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2014 03:22 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: NativeNH at November 18, 2014 03:21 PM (UBetH)
**blink blink**
**types**
**deletes**
Posted by: fixerupper at November 18, 2014 03:22 PM (NaV4z)
All of #GruberGate in Two Minutes: http://youtu.be/kDomkBtJC7Q via @YouTube
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 18, 2014 03:22 PM (ZPrif)
the lineup and he does the "turn the crank" thing giving the guards the
finger.
Huh. And I thought the Horde would have a soft-spot for the artificial leg bit.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:23 PM (M1uf/)
***
1. That's about par for course with W's bullshit. Sure, let's let the congress block my judges but give them a SP for something armitage did.
2. What the fuck? If new congress doesn't SP obama, then maybe all you LIB types are right. it doesn't matter.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at November 18, 2014 03:23 PM (Gysa/)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 18, 2014 03:23 PM (XzRw1)
And we should know, since we threw a guy in jail and lied to the country and the victims' families about a video.
Posted by: Josh Potemkin Ernest at November 18, 2014 03:23 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Antonio Gramsci at November 18, 2014 03:23 PM (lN8KC)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - We Blanked Out at the Outrage Outlet! at November 18, 2014 03:24 PM (hLRSq)
2. Opposition Party !
3. Profit !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 18, 2014 03:25 PM (go6ud)
Posted by: Barakhenhaten the Tiny
Ya can't get me, I'm running....And running. And I'm getting hot.......shit.
Posted by: Prof Grubers' HD at November 18, 2014 03:25 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:25 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: Bumpersticker Notary Sojac at November 18, 2014 03:25 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: BrewGoysterCult at November 18, 2014 03:26 PM (KZi9D)
Posted by: Ebola-chan at November 18, 2014 03:26 PM (lN8KC)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at November 18, 2014 03:26 PM (cxvn3)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:26 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: Formerly TiminAL but now in MIA at November 18, 2014 03:26 PM (xD5h5)
If we win with Halbig, and the more Gruber opens his mouth the better for us, then yes, Obamacare is gone.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2014 03:22 PM (g1DWB)
*******
The other "expert on ObamaCare"--John McDonough of Harvard gave a speech at Hofstra University and he said that we reached a point of no-return on ObamaCare in January of 2014--that after that healthcare is fundamentally transformed.
(something like that.)
Hopefully he is wrong.
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 18, 2014 03:26 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2014 03:27 PM (Ae7K+)
Nooooooooooo! But you embiggen the blog, and *THAT* they notice.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:27 PM (txvbW)
All of #GruberGate in Two Minutes: http://youtu.be/kDomkBtJC7Q via @YouTube
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 18, 2014 03:22 PM (ZPrif)
Does Obolacare cover treatment for speech impediments?
I'm asking for a friend.
Posted by: Jonathan Gruber at November 18, 2014 03:27 PM (oKE6c)
I remember this coming up before (in before "that's what she said"), but I *think* that after Starr, the Legislature agreed to limit their power to appoint SPs. Something about they can call for one, but the AG actually has to appoint? Or something like that.
And I *think* that was in place for the Valery Plame stuff, but W was to "even handed" to tell the Dems, "FYNQ." But, obviously, TFG and Dickless don't have the character of W, so they have no qualms about saying "yeah, good luck with that."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:27 PM (M1uf/)
Christie calls on House GOP to compromise
By STEVE PEOPLES
Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) - Making a rare Capitol Hill appearance, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie on Monday encouraged the GOP's newest members of Congress to embrace compromise and common ground as they shift to a governing role following their party's midterm rout.
The Republican governor, who is contemplating a 2016 presidential bid, addressed newly elected House Republicans and their spouses during a closed-door orientation luncheon inside the Capitol. The often-outspoken Christie declined to answer questions from reporters afterward, but attendees said offered a distinctly bipartisan tone.
Joy.
Posted by: @JohnTant at November 18, 2014 03:27 PM (PFy0L)
Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2014 03:27 PM (Ae7K+)
Posted by: BrewGoysterCult at November 18, 2014 03:26 PM (KZi9D)
...with Rock n' Roll!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OBs6S1lW_Q
Posted by: Blue Öyster Cult at November 18, 2014 03:27 PM (lN8KC)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 18, 2014 03:27 PM (knoK7)
Yes but we can still load up AGW-Energy-Amnesty legislation with earmarks!
mmmmmmm PORK!
*giggle*
Posted by: Mitch McConnell : now with miracle ingredient Moderate Mandatium at November 18, 2014 03:27 PM (NUCTk)
***
I know, right? While I applaud the GOP for castrating selves by taking budget tools off table to stop Obama's common sense and entirely legal course of action in adopting south america and giving them the vote so as to replace all you goddamned old white men in this country who I just wish would die alr....
ahem.
I digress.
But I think the GOP risks overplaying their hand and going beyond the will of the people if they insist on further investigating false fake scandals like benghazi, VA hospitals, how porkulus was spent, F&F, IRS, DACA, and whatever else the GOP has come up with.
As a committed conservative catholic, I know the only way to return america to it's greatness is through cooperating with obama to Somalexicoing america.
signed,
Moonbeam Hussein Goldenblattsteinbergsteinberger
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at November 18, 2014 03:28 PM (Gysa/)
This is the best Gruber video yet.
American Commitment @AmerComm 30m
All of #GruberGate in Two Minutes: http://youtu.be/kDomkBtJC7Q http://fb.me/3mAVe18Ev
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (ZPrif)
I will second^54 that that video is the bestest. I am not sure that it will penetrate the minds of LIVs (the Gruber stupids), but it is a nice recap, nonetheless.
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 03:28 PM (sDapq)
Oh, well, that's nice. Good to see "Global Pandemic" getting into the President's race early.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:28 PM (M1uf/)
And this is the same Senate that some insist would have caved on the shutdown if the Republicans had just held on longer.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2014 03:13 PM (g1DWB)
Yes, the fifty bills repealing Obamacare that were approved in the House and then sent over to the Senate, which then never made it out of Harry Reid's trash can and into a Senate committee or on the Senate floor.
Removing Reid is a big step towards getting a functional government that at least stands a chance of blocking the imperial president. Until January, he has little to nothing stopping him short of emergency court orders and the threat of police action if he refused to comply.
There are Democrats in the Senate that wanted Reid gone. Even they realized that you cannot have the Senate being completely run by one individual for six years,who blocks every bill coming from the House unless it is something that spends money on a popular notion such as relief for a hurricane, etc.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 18, 2014 03:29 PM (hjTr7)
Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2014 03:29 PM (Ae7K+)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 03:29 PM (2Aj5D)
Breitbart
Short and wroth the read
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:25 PM (nzKvP)
I've been noticing for quite awhile that Dershowitz seems to be waking up.
On several occasions he has seemingly been swimming against what was for him, his normal direction.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:29 PM (txvbW)
PM Netanyahu
This is one guy you can take at his word.
Weasel Zippers
Yeah this is one time I have to disagree with Weasel Zippers. Don't expect to much.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:29 PM (nzKvP)
(especially if the Koch brothers hired him to do exactly that !)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 18, 2014 03:30 PM (go6ud)
click*click
"what'd you think I was fucking stupid, hans?"
*ding*
Hans, "you were saying?"
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at November 18, 2014 03:30 PM (Gysa/)
Posted by: @JohnTant at November 18, 2014 03:27 PM (PFy0L)
Shorter Chris Christie- "You don't really want a Republican President in 2016, do you?"
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:30 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: Havedash at November 18, 2014 03:31 PM (gvqyH)
On several occasions he has seemingly been swimming against what was for him, his normal direction.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 03:29 PM (txvbW)
He's always been strong on Israel, but early on he still supported Fredo, and still may for all I know. Not sure how he justifies his strong and constant support for Israel with Fredo?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:31 PM (nzKvP)
Another institutional icon, Cal I think, may have to revisit those academic studies "proving" conservatives are stupid and lefties are smart. Conservatives weren't fooled by any of this horseshit; the ever so smart lefty voters, well, they just wanted to believe.
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at November 18, 2014 03:32 PM (lJLML)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:26 PM (nzKvP)
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I addressed this a couple of threads ago. Holder and Nixon want to make sure all the forces of both sides are in place. They need to create as much death and chaos as they can. Plus, they're waiting for clear and relatively warmer weather to unsure full participation.
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 03:32 PM (qaepl)
Universities, with all their academic freedom and search for the truth, are dumbing their Gruber videos down the memory hole:
http://bit.ly/1wU0F3q
http://bit.ly/1wU0CEL
Posted by: INGSOC --> SOCJUS at November 18, 2014 03:32 PM (lN8KC)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job
perhaps he's hoping that the Beltway media fairy will bless him with the coveted 'almost human rethuglickkkkkkkkkan' title. Which will get flushed as soon as he squares off against any dem.
Posted by: Prof Grubers' HD at November 18, 2014 03:32 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Roxanne at November 18, 2014 03:32 PM (lJLML)
Posted by: Barakhenhaten the Tiny
I said drive! Hard Drive!
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 03:32 PM (upVqO)
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 03:33 PM (qaepl)
Oh, well, that's nice. Good to see "Global Pandemic" getting into the President's race early.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:28 PM (M1uf/)
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Nothing to fear rabble rousers. Indians ALWAYS shake with their non asswiping hands.
Zero chance of transmission. All is well.
Posted by: THE CDC at November 18, 2014 03:33 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Republican National Committee at November 18, 2014 03:33 PM (1BQGO)
My mental image is more of SpongeBob Squarepants and Patrick Star singing "goofy, goofy, goofy, Grubers."
Posted by: Citizen X at November 18, 2014 03:33 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: eleven at November 18, 2014 03:34 PM (Ae7K+)
coveted 'almost human rethuglickkkkkkkkkan' title. Which will get
flushed as soon as he squares off against any dem.
I'm fairly sure that's what he's doing.
He's angling for the "Moderate Republican" angle- which we've seen twice in 8 years can be parleyed fairly effectively into the Republican nomination.
At which point the base says, "F*ck this," and, while they still show up to vote, they don't bring anyone with them, AND the Media turns out (yet again) to be actively siding with the Democrats, so the Dems get most or all of the swing voters.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:34 PM (M1uf/)
Dream on asshole
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:21 PM (nzKvP)
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Accurate summation?
Actually true? From a Obamite?
The videos are clear and easy to talk about. the 'success of Obamacare' is indeed difficult to talk about as not quite so clear.
Posted by: RioBravo at November 18, 2014 03:35 PM (SaMXZ)
In January, everyone who has purchased individual health insurance in the last four-five years loses their insurance. The grandfathering only applies to policies started before March 23, 2010. There are probably other things that are happening, too.
Honestly, though, I think they believe their own hype about the awesomeness of the ACA. I think we could leave the ACA entirely intact, except allowing people/businesses to go around it and opt out of it entirely, requiring insurance companies to keep ACA policies and prices completely separate from non-ACA policies, so that it is entirely voluntary, and Obamacare would collapse on itself. Sure, people could keep their incredibly comprehensive expensive plans that pay for things they'll never use. But why would they? Even the subsidy isn't going to cover the cost increases.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 18, 2014 03:35 PM (J0IP0)
It's open season on Jews and the Military here in NYC
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:35 PM (nzKvP)
Can you believe it? The new Congress hasn't been sworn in yet and already everything is over with and we're done for! Obama makes a speech and yells that you better do what he says or he'll do it himself and you know what that means? It means that it is complete dooom everywhere because nothing has happened yet!
How's that mandate going boys? I am disgusted with you that you have not passed legislation that you cannot pass, that you aren't having the committees that you do not yet chair undertake investigations, and that you haven't taken steps to counter executive orders that have not been written!
Disgust and disappointment.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - We Blanked Out at the Outrage Outlet! at November 18, 2014 03:36 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:36 PM (M1uf/)
Oh, well, that's nice. Good to see "Global Pandemic" getting into the President's race early.
Nothing like an out of control disease burning thru the Black Hole of Calcutta.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 03:37 PM (upVqO)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new jo
It's the secret of my success! What?
Posted by: Pres. John McCain at November 18, 2014 03:37 PM (Spluw)
It's open season on Jews and the Military here in NYC
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:35 PM
Another reason for concealed carry. I know that will never happen in NY. But, one can dream, right?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 03:38 PM (2Aj5D)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 03:37 PM (upVqO)
OTOH, India and Pakistan share a border. So if it does get out of control in India, the Pakis are likely next.
What? I look for silver linings where I can find 'em.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:38 PM (M1uf/)
And starting to put them back up. U of Penn has already put theirs back up and URI said they will consider it too.
To late though. The genie is out of the bottle and you can be sure that the justices have seen all the coverage on this. They are jurists, not monks and they know exactly how unpopular their ruling was.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2014 03:38 PM (g1DWB)
I agree with this. If the law is ever changed no insurance company will be able to write new policies because that would just be insanity! Could you imagine that? Changing the law? Writing new policies to conform to that changed law?
That way lies madness.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - We Blanked Out at the Outrage Outlet! at November 18, 2014 03:39 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 03:39 PM (upVqO)
Don't forget your gun...
Oh. Wait.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:36 PM (M1uf/)
Yes Military has been told to HIDE they are in the Military and Jews have been ordered to get their circumcisions reversed....ooooyh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:39 PM (nzKvP)
Oh. Wait.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:36 PM
"Have you ever heard of the Sullivan Act?"
"Oh, that's all right, we're married."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 18, 2014 03:40 PM (knoK7)
Posted by: Webster's Ninth International at November 18, 2014 03:40 PM (lJLML)
Axe attacks, beheadings, stabbings, run-downs, all around the world. Common factor?
Lutherans.
Posted by: --- at November 18, 2014 03:40 PM (MMC8r)
Heh. Can't even wait until January 3 to start bitching.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 18, 2014 03:40 PM (ZKzrr)
And there are two human responses to this: contrition and stubbornness.
Given the ego necessary to become a Justice on the Supreme Court, I'm not giving "contrition" that good a shot.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:41 PM (M1uf/)
Well, yeah. I mean voters are stoopit, right?
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 03:41 PM (3ZtZW)
Bitching his half off now till Christmas!
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2014 03:41 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 18, 2014 03:41 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:38 PM (M1uf/)
And Afghanistan right after that, and right down the jihadi volunteer reinforcement chain.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - We Blanked Out at the Outrage Outlet! at November 18, 2014 03:41 PM (hLRSq)
*********
Is that what it is.
Unfortunately the more I listen to these weasels the more I want ACA and the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act completely wiped out.
I don't trust them.. It's like a virus that has been written into the mainframe of government as we know it.
Leave any part of it--and they will exploit it years later.
They've been going at this since Phase I--Hillary Care, ObamaCare is just Phase Two of that and then Hillary will bookend it with Phase Three. (when and if she wins.)
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 18, 2014 03:42 PM (RJMhd)
What? I look for silver linings where I can find 'em.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:38
Love the happy outlook.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 03:42 PM (2Aj5D)
The authors of those books, interestingly enough, were the people that wrote or had something to do with writing the X Act or advised ABC agency.
Posted by: CozMark at November 18, 2014 03:42 PM (JeBIy)
One of the things that #GamersGate is all about, is that people with emotional or financial ties to those who make the games, would both not disclose those ties, but would 'ACT' like they were unbiased observers...
Just like the incestuous relationship the media has, with Bankers, and Politicians...
They run in the same circles, and are RELATED to each other... but will not disclose those ties when discussing issues.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 18, 2014 03:42 PM (f0pWu)
Posted by: The Progs at November 18, 2014 03:43 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: CozMark
Very good young jedi. Your transformation is almost complete
Posted by: Adjunct Emperor Gruber at November 18, 2014 03:44 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2014 03:41 PM (g1DWB)
Don't forget to buy some bottles of whine for your Holiday gatherings! Only at the Outrage Outlet!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - We Blanked Out at the Outrage Outlet! at November 18, 2014 03:44 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 03:44 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Evil Jonathan Gruber at November 18, 2014 03:44 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands
When done by the right person, yes.
Posted by: oh so rev. Al Sharpton at November 18, 2014 03:45 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: The Progs at November 18, 2014 03:43 PM (iQIUe)
I suspect they're there to protect the looters, not the lootees.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:45 PM (M1uf/)
No warning shots! Make 'em count!
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 03:46 PM (upVqO)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 18, 2014 03:40 PM (ZKzrr)
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Have the repub majorities in the past given us any reason to hope?
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 03:46 PM (qaepl)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:46 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:47 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 03:47 PM (upVqO)
Posted by: The Progs at November 18, 2014 03:43 PM (iQIUe)
---
I wish we could go back to the "See a Looter. Shoot a Looter" programs that were so successful in quelling domestic uprisings in years gone by.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 18, 2014 03:47 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:48 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: Jen the original at November 18, 2014 03:48 PM (hjTr7)
Really? I have to say it is quite an honor and surprise. Thank you sir, I will not let you down.
Posted by: Team Player CozMark at November 18, 2014 03:48 PM (JeBIy)
http://is.gd/kM0xj5
Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2014 03:49 PM (u9gzs)
"Lufthansa censors penis cakes".
Lufthansa's online magazine carried a picture of penis-shaped donuts in a travel section. They've recalled that issue and removed the offending page.
NSFW for penis donuts, in krautish:
http://bit.ly/1xTHgn1
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 03:49 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 03:46 PM (qaepl)
Make sure you warm up first. Wouldn't anyone here to pull something.*
*Considering how old some of us are it's a real possibility.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - We Blanked Out at the Outrage Outlet! at November 18, 2014 03:49 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at November 18, 2014 03:50 PM (cxvn3)
Posted by: That Mexican Dog at November 18, 2014 03:50 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: fixerupper at November 18, 2014 03:50 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: gwelf at November 18, 2014 03:50 PM (nyxv/)
This is the best Gruber video yet.
American Commitment @AmerComm 30m
All of #GruberGate in Two Minutes: http://youtu.be/kDomkBtJC7Q http://fb.me/3mAVe18Ev
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 03:07 PM (ZPrif)
I will second^54 that that video is the bestest. I am not sure that it will penetrate the minds of LIVs (the Gruber stupids), but it is a nice recap, nonetheless.
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 03:28 PM (sDapq)
*********
maybe they should also do a video to remind people of the way the damn thing was passed.
The commenter "---" reminded me that the media deep sixed how the Democrats even locked the Republicans out of the rooms when they passed it.
Well I found a video of Neil Cavuto discussing exactly that.
Not only did the Dems lock the republicans out--
they actually CHANGED THE LOCKS on one of the doors.
They locked several doors, to committee rooms, and Senate door #S219 where only three Dems met with White House officials.
It's absolutely infuriating in retrospect. I think Cavuto might have taken too light of an attitude about it at the time because the dirty deed hadn't actually been done yet.
Anyways you guys need to watch this and get reminded of that cap.
Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8xd7VKGrpE#t=65
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 18, 2014 03:51 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: fixerupper
step #1: wait for verdict to be announced. Either way, these vermin are not leaving without being vermin.
step #2: hand one of them a TV set. Wait for him/her/it/whatever to get shot/ arrested/ mobbed/whatever.
Step#3: keep milking the furor and control the media cycle.
Posted by: oh so rev. Al Sharpton at November 18, 2014 03:51 PM (Spluw)
Isn't a dog "man's best friend"? I'm teh cofuzzled now
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 03:51 PM (3ZtZW)
We got this.
Posted by: Rooftop Koreans at November 18, 2014 03:51 PM (W5DcG)
One of the biggest challenges for Conservatives that I see is not to let the liberal facscists control the language. They have done it for years with the infamous "It depends on what your definition of is is" and all of the deflections using the word "nuance", global warming, climate change, etc.
Don't let them control the language thus the narrative.
Posted by: cheri at November 18, 2014 03:51 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: John Stewart at November 18, 2014 03:51 PM (/eTPT)
Unsurprisingly, no. No they haven't.
Exhibit A being the MFM continuing to say that "The GOP" is enraged (or some other negative word) over Gruber's comments.
Um, MFM? It's mostly Liberals who Gruber was insulting.
Most of *US* knew this shit YEARS ago.
But you called us rayciss wingnutz.
Posted by: Citizen X at November 18, 2014 03:52 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Citizen X at November 18, 2014 03:53 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 03:53 PM (3ZtZW)
My work blocks bit.ly, but are those Voodoo Donuts? When my brother took me there he wouldn't let me buy the cream-filled penis ones. But the ones covered in crushed Oreos were very good.
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 18, 2014 03:54 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Justice Roberts at November 18, 2014 03:55 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 03:55 PM (3ZtZW)
****
Ack I did not find the video--jeezuz I saw it in someone else's twitter feed.
Someone named Kim D. or Kim B. oy.
Posted by: Your Friendly Danube River Guide at November 18, 2014 03:56 PM (RJMhd)
---
Ok.... I'll bite....
Why would one cover a penis with crushed Oreos????
Posted by: fixerupper at November 18, 2014 03:56 PM (NaV4z)
Um, why do those penis cakes, and the breast shaped ones, need to exist?
Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2014 03:56 PM (ABcz/)
No, Radieschen. It was a travel article about Asian food, the penis donuts were on an island called Jeju.
3/4 down the page on the right at bild.de.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 03:57 PM (JtwS4)
OTOH, India and Pakistan share a border. So if it does get out of control in India, the Pakis are likely next.
What? I look for silver linings where I can find 'em.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) with a new job at November 18, 2014 03:38 PM (M1uf/)
Considering their history, if Ebola in India gets out of control, Paki is probably responsible. Every India-Paki war was started by Paki, they have their grubby little fingers in just about every conflict on the globe in the past 50 years.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 18, 2014 03:57 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 18, 2014 03:57 PM (TIIx5)
----
No shit.....
Posted by: Mitch Rapp at November 18, 2014 03:58 PM (NaV4z)
They punch above their weight
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 03:58 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 03:58 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Lizzy
Because i bake fur die Nobility.
Posted by: Kuchenkommandanteur at November 18, 2014 03:58 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Bumpersticker Notary Sojac at November 18, 2014 03:59 PM (MbqmP)
Health Insurers Warn Obamacare To Double Or Triple Monthly Premiums Over Next Year
Insurers: Obamacare Fix for Canceled Health Policies Could Raise Costs
Beltway Confidential - Insurers 'will strenuously resist Republican efforts to dismantle' Obamacare
huh?
Health Insurers Now Fighting To Save ObamaCare
Obamacare: If insurers lose money, federal funds will be made available
oh
Posted by: Name: * at November 18, 2014 03:59 PM (NUCTk)
Posted by: Bandersnatch
I'm on it!
Posted by: Ebola nurse at November 18, 2014 03:59 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: ScoggDog at November 18, 2014 03:59 PM (+jsVQ)
Ebola spreads to India
........................
If you like to crap in your river, you may keep crapping in your river.
Posted by: Dr. Hussein at November 18, 2014 03:59 PM (wAQA5)
Why would one cover a penis with crushed Oreos????
Posted by: fixerupper at November 18, 2014 03:56 PM (NaV4z)
Wow!
Posted by: Bumpersticker Notary Sojac at November 18, 2014 04:00 PM (MbqmP)
I just have one question. Aside from those of us who already knew this whole thing was FUBAR, where the fuck is the outrage?
LET. IT. BURN.
Posted by: DefendUSA at November 18, 2014 04:00 PM (nAHMK)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 18, 2014 04:01 PM (ZKzrr)
It's open season on Jews and the Military here in NYC
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 03:35 PM (nzKvP)
That doesn't even make sense. I thought Jews made up a decent portion of the population up there. How can people get elected in New York who would put up with such a thing?
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:01 PM (txvbW)
Prince Beavis and Lord Butthead?
Look, that cake is shaped like a dick, heh, heh, heh....
Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2014 04:01 PM (ABcz/)
Posted by: HR needs donuts at November 18, 2014 03:54 PM (ZKzrr)
Radish, I'd let you buy cream-filled penis ones.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at November 18, 2014 04:01 PM (fwARV)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:01 PM (upVqO)
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Sssssshshhhshshshhhhhhhhh....... Dancing With The Stars is starting......
Posted by: LIV's Everywhere at November 18, 2014 04:01 PM (NaV4z)
Posted by: Short Bus Biden at November 18, 2014 04:02 PM (8TdcF)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 03:58 PM (JtwS4)
I've dealt with worse...
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 18, 2014 04:02 PM (lN8KC)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:02 PM (upVqO)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 04:03 PM (3ZtZW)
Have the repub majorities in the past given us any reason to hope?
If compromise = hope, then yes.
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 18, 2014 04:03 PM (XzRw1)
==
His forthcoming sequel has a new title: Liberal Gruberism
Posted by: Gov Krispie Immigration Reform Kreme at November 18, 2014 04:03 PM (GC4Vl)
oh "
The payoff for the insurers, you see.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 18, 2014 04:03 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: eureka! at November 18, 2014 04:04 PM (Zbknu)
Posted by: DefendUSA
The Lovely left has no reason to be outraged, at the moment. It accomplishes several of their goals, and they are adamant about not being proven wrong. This POS started out with lies, bribes and double dealing. The only way the Left would ditch this junk would be to salvage the prospects of 1st president MomMon. If SCOTUS does kill the subsidies, they place the blame on the rethuglickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkans that refused to expand the ever growing turd Medicaid and shift resources to something else.
Posted by: Bllue Hen at November 18, 2014 04:04 PM (Spluw)
They had an unsuccessful line of cottage-cheese filled vagina donuts. Not a big seller.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2014 04:04 PM (DrWcr)
Proposed subhed: "Liberal and Fat at 100% of Hearings."
Posted by: Furious George at November 18, 2014 04:04 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: ScoggDog at November 18, 2014 04:05 PM (+jsVQ)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 03:38 PM (2Aj5D)
With the latest Supreme Court rulings on gun cases I do not see how New York can keep out concealed carry.
They do have to respect US Supreme court decisions, don't they?
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:05 PM (txvbW)
made up a decent portion of the population up
there. How can people get elected in New York
who would put up with such a thing?
They got their vote. They are unneeded now.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:05 PM (upVqO)
Col Gruber: Son, we live in a world that has econmic computer models, and those spreadsheets have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Death Panels, and you curse the Democrats. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Death Panels, while tragic, probably saves lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that spreadsheet, you need me on that spreadsheet. We use words like teabagger, wingnut, racist. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent tearing down society for the greater good. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very objective economic analysis that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a keyboard, and write a macro. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Jonah Goldberg: Did you architect the ObamaCare Code Red?
Col. Gruber: I did the job I . . .
Jonah Goldberg: *Did you architect the ObamaCare Code Red?*
Col. Gruber: *You're Goddamn right I did!*
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 18, 2014 04:06 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 04:06 PM (3ZtZW)
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Ha!
Bravo
Posted by: Tobacco Road, Extremist at November 18, 2014 04:07 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:01 PM (txvbW)
Jews are a pimple on the ass of the electorate, so to speak in NYC, compared to the Sharpton and Radical hispanics. Not to mention all the illegals that vote. And also not mentioning all the Jino's who almost not Jewish anymore anyway but progressive
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 04:07 PM (nzKvP)
>>>
Call it a tax.
Posted by: John Roberts at November 18, 2014 04:08 PM (Mxs5H)
They do have to respect US Supreme court decisions, don't they?
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:05 PM (txvbW)
In theory, sure, but what's the enforcement mechanism?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at November 18, 2014 04:08 PM (fwARV)
Posted by: ScoggDog at November 18, 2014 04:08 PM (+jsVQ)
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 04:09 PM (qaepl)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 04:06 PM (3ZtZW)
Once they figure out how to claim he's a GOP operative who's trying to sabotage Obamacare.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:09 PM (KK+mC)
Just like the incestuous relationship the media has, with Bankers, and Politicians...
They run in the same circles, and are RELATED to each other... but will not disclose those ties when discussing issues.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 18, 2014 03:42 PM (f0pWu)
We need to keep repeating that brother. We need to make sure anyone and everyone that needs to know is familiar with the fact that Democrats and Media organizations are made up of the same families. That there are blood and marriage and financial ties between Democrat office holders and Media people.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:09 PM (txvbW)
Curses! Foiled again.
Posted by: Snidely Whiplash Gruber at November 18, 2014 04:09 PM (wAQA5)
They don't "Keep them out" like the don't "Keep them out" here in NJ. They just make it damn near impossible to get that "Legal" carry permit...wink wink
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 04:10 PM (nzKvP)
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Ha!
Bravo
Posted by: Tobacco Road, Extremist at November 18, 2014 04:07 PM (4Mv1T)
Ditto. Very well done.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:10 PM (KK+mC)
Frat parties.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:02 PM (upVqO)"
Nope. Dudes don't care about what shape their food is. This is 100% for the ladies. Ever seen photos of a bachelorette party. There's a dick on everything. It's like Ben Roethlisberger & Michael Sam's had a mind meld.
Posted by: yomomma at November 18, 2014 04:10 PM (rEXOB)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at
or state that he lied to the Dear Leader and betrayed his trust.It's full of win! Sadly, this can possibly be spun to pressure the rethuglickkkkkkkkkans to help "come together to fix it". The MFM would gladly do its part.
Posted by: Bllue Hen at November 18, 2014 04:11 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at November 18, 2014 04:12 PM (XzRw1)
They are all criminals together.
Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2014 04:12 PM (Lbv/k)
Nobody will care unless you can link it to their own lives, like "its a club, you're never going to be in it". That kind of thing.
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 04:12 PM (3ZtZW)
Does anyone doubt Roberts decided to play ball because of pressures (he
could never admit it now, he's be completely ruined) brought to bear
related to his personal life?
They are all criminals together.
Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2014 04:12 PM (Lbv/k)
*raises hand*
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 04:13 PM (sDapq)
I'm a doctor not a veterinarian.
Posted by: Leonard McCoy MD at November 18, 2014 04:13 PM (bBV+F)
Posted by: wooga at November 18, 2014 04:14 PM (YAVyP)
#PantsUpDontLOOT
#WeShootDontLOOT
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:14 PM (upVqO)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 18, 2014 04:03 PM (LA7Cm)
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I think Gruber called the insurers stupid too. I'm sure there's some insurance company CEO's scratching their heads right now thinking they'll never see a dime from the fed for their losses.
Serves them fucking right.
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 04:14 PM (qaepl)
Posted by: Bllue Hen at November 18, 2014 04:15 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Justice Roberts at November 18, 2014 04:15 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Bumpersticker Notary Sojac at November 18, 2014 04:15 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 18, 2014 04:15 PM (Z36SR)
Truth Revolt @TruthRevoltOrg
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Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 04:16 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 04:06 PM (3ZtZW
Nah, they have Bill Cosby running interference.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 18, 2014 04:16 PM (2Aj5D)
at Hofstra University and he said that we reached a point of no-return
on ObamaCare in January of 2014--that after that healthcare is
fundamentally transformed.
I guess fundamental transformations can only be accomplished by the left.
Posted by: despair at November 18, 2014 04:16 PM (dcY7v)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 18, 2014 04:15 PM (Z36SR)
What did the scrunt say
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 04:17 PM (nzKvP)
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Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 04:17 PM (ZPrif)
because of pressures (he could never admit it now, he's be completely
ruined) brought to bear related to his personal life?
They are all criminals together.
Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2014 04:12 PM (Lbv/k)
And that's a pattern in Obama's political history.
He is KNOWN for uncovering prejudicial facts on his opponents and getting them "leaked" to the electorate to influence either an election or a judgment.
It's the hoodlum insurance scam: "Nice judgeship you've got here your honor. Be a shame if you were found to be remiss in your adoption papers."
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:17 PM (KK+mC)
And Hawaian shirt, I'm so drunk, Kill the spider!!! it's okay ifI get lower car insurance cause I'm a girl, and dutch treat....Out of respect for the Dutch.
Posted by: To ask for a sammich is to ask for war at November 18, 2014 04:19 PM (Spluw)
They don't "Keep them out" like the don't "Keep them out" here in NJ. They just make it damn near impossible to get that "Legal" carry permit...wink wink
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 04:10 PM (nzKvP)
Perhaps a resident should file a court case? If it can happen in Washington DC, I don't know why it couldn't happen in New Jersey.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:19 PM (txvbW)
Posted by: despair at November 18, 2014 04:16 PM (dcY7v)
For everyone else, there's flammenwerfers.
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 04:19 PM (sDapq)
Posted by: Ian Galt at November 18, 2014 04:19 PM (dmepw)
Posted by: despair at November 18, 2014 04:19 PM (dcY7v)
Posted by: alexthechick - No, I don't mean I'm a cigarette at November 18, 2014 04:20 PM (mf5HN)
Haven't we heard this before?
And don't we normally scoff at the idea?
If the Palestinians gave up their arms, there would be peace.
If Israel gave up their arms, there would be a slaughter of Jews by the Muslims and THEN they would demand more from the West.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:20 PM (KK+mC)
Well speaking just for me I never wanted the country fundamentally transformed, that has always been the goal of the left. I'd be happy as a pig in shit if we could go back to first principles which does not require any fundamental transforming.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2014 04:21 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 04:12 PM (3ZtZW)
Nobody on the left will care, but I'm trying to persuade the folk on the right. *OUR* side needs to figure out once and for all that the Media = Enemy.
Mourdock and Akin are examples of what happens when people don't understand that the Liberal Reporters are their enemies.
Our side needs to sing as one chorus on this point. The "Media" is left wing, and needs to be destroyed as it is currently constituted.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:21 PM (txvbW)
without affirming that the words "bitch",
"pimp", "slut" and "I'd hit that" are problematic
words that cause violence against women.
Bint. Mac Daddy. Ho. Doogy Style.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:21 PM (upVqO)
Posted by: Bob from table9 at November 18, 2014 04:22 PM (WNERA)
Posted by: Lester at November 18, 2014 04:22 PM (2UPXV)
Well he will be replaced by Naftali Bennett, not Zippi Livni. Bennett has no interest in a two state solution. At all
Posted by: ThunderB at November 18, 2014 04:23 PM (Z36SR)
____________________________________
Das right, "stay the course," my peeps!
We gunna make Da Man pay!
Posted by: Barry Hussein Obama, Community Organizer in Chief at November 18, 2014 04:23 PM (2ruKl)
Posted by: Jeb Bush 2016 at November 18, 2014 04:23 PM (W6iIX)
:"Lemme stow this cigar right about here" is still groovy, as is "shall we go for a swim drive?"
Posted by: To ask for a sammich is to ask for war at November 18, 2014 04:23 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:21 PM (upVqO)
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Dong, cooter, tits, purdy mouf.
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 04:24 PM (qaepl)
It's the "Some Other Dude Did It" defense:
My client wasn't there.
If he was there he didn't see anything or anyone.
If he did see anyone, he had nothing to do with them.
If he did have anything to do with them he had nothing to do with the crime.
My client saw some other guy do this.
What did he look like?
Average height and weight, white but tanned but I don't know who they are. I've never seen the guy before or since.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:24 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: wooga at November 18, 2014 04:14 PM (YAVyP)
Now see, a mashup of the Human Centipede and Obamacare with Gruber as the insane doctor..... Why that's just the sort of thing that could be an effective tool for moving the facebook fools.
Obama care is a LOT like the human centipede with the rest of us sucking the DC coridor's ass.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:24 PM (txvbW)
My insurance was excellent and affordable. But thanks for screwing me over so some shitstain FSA assholes could suck off the government tit more than they do now.
Posted by: seems legit at November 18, 2014 04:25 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:21 PM (upVqO)
*ahem*
That's Doogie style.
Posted by: Doogie Howser M.D. at November 18, 2014 04:25 PM (V+kmg)
Muslims are trying to get in on the Ferguson protests.
http://tinyurl.com/m9ervjw
"The reality is that this country, in law enforcement, be it local, state or federal law enforcement, people with guns have always seen black men and black people as threats," Dawud Walid, executive director of CAIR's Michigan Chapter
"Black youth, now, are facing tanks and M16s," he said [Muhammad Sankari, youth organizer with the Chicago-based Arab American Action Network]. "Under the guise of fighting terrorism, police are now armed as a military force in their neighborhood."
Posted by: Admiral Painter at November 18, 2014 04:25 PM (bBV+F)
http://youtu.be/94LL8J8WYT0
Posted by: alexthechick - No, I don't mean I'm a cigarette at November 18, 2014 04:20 PM (mf5HN)
Some Gruber mood music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaysTVcounI
Posted by: Yer Lyin' Hat at November 18, 2014 04:25 PM (lN8KC)
Posted by: pyromancer76 at November 18, 2014 04:26 PM (ELqjR)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaysTVcounI
Posted by: Yer Lyin' Hat at November 18, 2014 04:25 PM (lN8KC)
Which is even funnier given Henry Rollins' politics.
Posted by: alexthechick - No, I don't mean I'm a cigarette at November 18, 2014 04:26 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: dedomeno at November 18, 2014 04:26 PM (UccCH)
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Set piece battle, not a meeting engagement.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 18, 2014 04:26 PM (plZD6)
Out of respect for Dr. Jill Biden, I try to limit my Dutch ovens to when I'm sleeping in the guest bedroom.
Posted by: Joe Biden at November 18, 2014 04:27 PM (8ZskC)
Forget protests at the White House.
People should be rioting outside the New York Times building with pitchforks and torches.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:27 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:21
PM (upVqO)
*ahem*
That's Doogie style.
F'n cell phone keyboard!
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:28 PM (upVqO)
Posted by: yomomma at November 18, 2014 04:28 PM (rEXOB)
Posted by: Titanium at November 18, 2014 04:28 PM (1aNMF)
Stay outraged, my friends.
Posted by: The World's Most Interesting Looter at November 18, 2014 04:29 PM (dVmLD)
Posted by: ForThemWhatCare at November 18, 2014 04:29 PM (m2f2Y)
Frozen view count - Why is the video view count stuck?
"Video views are algorithmically validated to be fair to both content creators and advertisers and maintain a positive user experience.
This process assures that the video views are quality views and discards the low quality playbacks."
I know of at least 28 views that either have not been counted or have not been reflected as low-quality views in the count.
Do no evil, google.
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 04:30 PM (sDapq)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:27 PM (KK+mC)
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And the NBC, ABC, and CBS studios. But their big operations are in NYC and L.A. Fat chance of any of this happening.
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 04:30 PM (qaepl)
Posted by: The Progs at November 18, 2014 04:30 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Admiral Painter at November 18, 2014 04:30 PM (bBV+F)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 18, 2014 04:31 PM (wVWRM)
RTFBYMFMF would have solved these problems.
I'm thinking of naming the PAC to promote the RTFBYMFMF amendment Society To Observe Maximum Political TransparencY.
Posted by: alexthechick - No, I don't mean I'm a cigarette at November 18, 2014 04:31 PM (mf5HN)
RIGHT NOW under current law, if a business did it's accounting the same way Congress does their "budget", the business would be facing a load of indictments.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:31 PM (KK+mC)
Do no evil, google.
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 04:30 PM (sDapq)
You've got to be kidding. I count google as just about the most evil corporation which has ever existed.
They are the precursor to a skynet/stasi fusion if you ask me.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:32 PM (txvbW)
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The interesting thing about Gruber and the media not covering him is that the intent of the media is not to lie to us. The intent of the media is to lie to the Donks, to keep them stupid, to insure the survival of the LIV.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 18, 2014 04:32 PM (0kN5y)
Posted by: ForThemWhatCare at November 18, 2014 04:29 PM (m2f2Y)
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It needs to be shared. GrubamaCare.
Posted by: Soona at November 18, 2014 04:32 PM (qaepl)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2014 04:32 PM (g1DWB)
So much YES!!!!
It's not the "people are stupid" part that galls, it's that he was admitting to a con job, defrauding the American public.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2014 04:32 PM (ABcz/)
DISAGREE. Keep the focus on Obama. Gruber is the messenger, not the message.
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 04:32 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: dedomeno at November 18, 2014 04:32 PM (UccCH)
Stay outraged, my friends.
Posted by: The World's Most Interesting Looter at November 18, 2014 04:29 PM (dVmLD)
Good one. And hash skilz too.
Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 18, 2014 04:33 PM (wVWRM)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:19 PM (txvbW)
Yeah and in DC, they allowed you to get a permit after you took a "certified" course with a "certified" instructor but there are NO certified courses or instructors?????
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 04:33 PM (nzKvP)
I don't often loot, but when I do, I prefer to have my ass hanging out of my trousers like a prison bitch.
Stay outraged, my friends.
Posted by: The World's Most Interesting Looter at November 18, 2014 04:29 PM (dVmLD)
I don't often pillage and plunder, but when I do, I prefer to have a parrot shitting down the back of my shirt, like a pirate.
Stay outraged, my friends.
Posted by: Jon Gruber at November 18, 2014 04:33 PM (sDapq)
>>This will not last two more years.
This thread? It might.
Penis donuts are not like Twinkies. They won't last that long.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 04:33 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 18, 2014 04:31 PM (wVWRM)
My blood pressure?
You are correct.
Posted by: alexthechick - No, I don't mean I'm a cigarette at November 18, 2014 04:34 PM (mf5HN)
Since the only results for a search of this term are references to comments about it here, please spell out what it means.
Just for us ig'nant peasants toiling in the fields.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:34 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:32 PM (txvbW)
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And they can actually make use all the information they collect, unlike the Stasi.
Posted by: RioBravo at November 18, 2014 04:34 PM (SaMXZ)
Posted by: seems legit at November 18, 2014 04:34 PM (A98Xu)
DISAGREE. Keep the focus on Obama. Gruber is the messenger, not the message.
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 04:32 PM (3ZtZW)
I also disagree. We do not need to dilute the message that *Obama* is the architect of *Obamacare*.
It's failure is his failure. It's legacy is his legacy. It is not too early to be worrying about how history will record this disastrous presidency.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:35 PM (txvbW)
They are the precursor to a skynet/stasi fusion if you ask me.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:32 PM (txvbW)
Agreed. It was sarcasm.
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 04:35 PM (sDapq)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 18, 2014 04:35 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Joycelyn Elders at November 18, 2014 04:36 PM (bBV+F)
You are correct.
Posted by: alexthechick - No, I don't mean I'm a cigarette at November 18, 2014 04:34 PM (mf5HN)
Mani pedi?
Seaweed body wrap?
Lemon square?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 04:36 PM (V+kmg)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 04:33 PM (nzKvP)
In DC or in New Jersey? Because I don't think the court will find it amusing if the City continues trying to dodge their will with this sort of pathetic subterfuge.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:36 PM (txvbW)
RTFBYMFMF
Since the only results for a search of this term are references to comments about it here, please spell out what it means.
My guess: Read The F*cking Bill You Mother F*cking Motherf*ckers!
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 04:37 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: KWdreaming at November 18, 2014 04:37 PM (8QW0x)
Posted by: seems legit at November 18, 2014 04:37 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Jon Gruber at November 18, 2014 04:33 PM (sDapq)
That was a good one though.
Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 18, 2014 04:37 PM (wVWRM)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 18, 2014 04:37 PM (WOKpd)
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 04:38 PM (sDapq)
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At least you can still say, "But first you will blow me."
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 18, 2014 04:38 PM (+zjVj)
No such thing. Far left wing-bat thieves is all they got.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 18, 2014 04:39 PM (HRo7B)
Posted by: RioBravo at November 18, 2014 04:34 PM (SaMXZ)
I've read various comments from former East German Stasi who are having orgasms over what google is collecting.
Google is fucking dangerous and evil. For example, I assure you that every time you type the word "google", google will note it and file it away in their database.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:39 PM (txvbW)
My guess: Read The F*cking Bill You Mother F*cking Motherf*ckers!
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 04:37 PM (JtwS4)
Very good! You may have two lemon bars.
Posted by: alexthechick - No, I don't mean I'm a cigarette at November 18, 2014 04:39 PM (mf5HN)
Channelling Mitt Romney re Grubergate.
Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 18, 2014 04:40 PM (wVWRM)
We though the hedges would keep him out. Honest.
Posted by: Secret Service Guys at November 18, 2014 04:40 PM (v3pYe)
Headling at HuffPo:
"Ferguson Area Gun Store Sees 700 Percent Spike In Sales Ahead Of Jury Verdict"
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 04:40 PM (JtwS4)
Since the only results for a search of this term are references to comments about it here, please spell out what it means.
Just for us ig'nant peasants toiling in the fields.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:34 PM (KK+mC)
Wait. Wait. You violated Rules For Morons Number One? You violated Rules For Morons Number One for a reference *I* made? I mean, sure, sure, I'm a delicate flower of innocent virtue and all that, but, dude, seriously, you're not new. You know better than to do that.
Posted by: alexthechick - No, I don't mean I'm a cigarette at November 18, 2014 04:40 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Some Media Whore at November 18, 2014 04:41 PM (KK+mC)
You are correct.
Posted by: alexthechick - No, I don't mean I'm a cigarette at November 18, 2014 04:34 PM (mf5HN)
Seaweed body wrap?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 04:36 PM (V+kmg)
....and pictures?
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 18, 2014 04:41 PM (HRo7B)
Posted by: Paleride at November 18, 2014 04:41 PM (dkExz)
I she "Marsha, Marsha, Marsha" Coakley?
Judy Judy Judy
Posted by: Gruber Pyle at November 18, 2014 04:42 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 04:42 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: alexthechick - No, I don't mean I'm a cigarette at November 18, 2014 04:39 PM (mf5HN)
*feeds AtC seaweed and wraps her body in Lemon Squares*
BRB...gotta get whipped cream.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 04:42 PM (V+kmg)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at November 18, 2014 04:42 PM (wVWRM)
*crap. I don't know what the first rule IS.
Turns in moron card. Slinks away*
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:43 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 04:37 PM (JtwS4)
Constitutional amendment.
"No bill can become law unless read aloud in it's entirety by it's proponents, in the house and in the Senate."
"All votes for the bill must have been present during the entire reading of the bill."
That would fix a bunch of shit.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:43 PM (txvbW)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:36 PM (txvbW)
Yeah DC is going back to Court I think.
In NJ you have to show, Unless your a cop or private dick, that your life is in imminent danger and a Judge rules on it. And basically how can you show your life is in imminent danger? It's next to impossible for the average joe or average Nevergiveup to get a carry permit
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 04:43 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at November 18, 2014 04:43 PM (QBm1P)
"No bill can become law unless read aloud in it's entirety by it's proponents, in the house and in the Senate."
"All votes for the bill must have been present during the entire reading of the bill."
That is your best idea yet.
Now don't Bogart that joint, my friend.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 04:44 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: ForThemWhatCare at November 18, 2014 04:45 PM (m2f2Y)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:45 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: flounder at November 18, 2014 04:45 PM (sDapq)
"No bill can become law unless read aloud in it's entirety by it's proponents, in the house and in the Senate."
"All votes for the bill must have been present during the entire reading of the bill."
That would fix a bunch of shit.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:43 PM (txvbW)
Throw in a requirement that all laws and regulations passed before the Amendment goes into force will automatically sunset soon thereafter.
Posted by: The Amending Hat at November 18, 2014 04:45 PM (lN8KC)
Apparently there are only about 1,000 carry permits in the entire state.
How this differs from CA or Chicago or DC I have no idea, but the last lawsuit lost!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2014 04:45 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at November 18, 2014 04:43 PM (QBm1P)
Then why are you still wearing
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 04:45 PM (V+kmg)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 18, 2014 04:45 PM (Z36SR)
Weasel Zippers
As I predicted this AM.
Hey America are you listening?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 04:45 PM (nzKvP)
"No bill can become law unless read aloud in it's entirety by it's proponents, in the house and in the Senate."
"All votes for the bill must have been present during the entire reading of the bill."
That would fix a bunch of shit.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:43 PM (txvbW) You mean you've got to read AND hear the bill to find out what's in it BEFORE passing it? What a concept! Pelosi would not be happy.
Posted by: Havedash at November 18, 2014 04:46 PM (gvqyH)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 04:45 PM (V+kmg)
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Conjecture! Overruled!
My chaps are assless, your honor!
Posted by: All Hail Eris at November 18, 2014 04:47 PM (QBm1P)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 18, 2014 04:47 PM (Z36SR)
Posted by: Havedash at November 18, 2014 04:46 PM (gvqyH)
with all that Botox how can we tell?
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 18, 2014 04:47 PM (HRo7B)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 04:48 PM (3ZtZW)
You accept the fact that folks can get rewarded for crossing over your borders.
Then sissy bitch when you have to pay a fine to J walk the street in your very own city.
Posted by: DEHOCO Guard at November 18, 2014 04:48 PM (/WmRg)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 18, 2014 04:47 PM (Z36SR)
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**Tightens belt on swiped hotel shorty robe**
Posted by: All Hail Eris at November 18, 2014 04:49 PM (QBm1P)
ZOMG Jooz are Teh Crazee! They've flipped their Yids!
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 04:48 PM (3ZtZW)
...and that made me guffaw laugh. Thanks!
Posted by: Viv Savage at November 18, 2014 04:49 PM (HRo7B)
Throw in a requirement that all laws and regulations passed before the Amendment goes into force will automatically sunset soon thereafter.
Posted by: The Amending Hat at November 18, 2014 04:45 PM (lN8KC)
The idea being to keep them busy reauthorizing existing laws so as to preclude them from stirring up new trouble?
I like it.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:49 PM (txvbW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 04:45 PM (nzKvP)
It will never happen in America because NASA is doing Muslim outreach and our borders are secure.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2014 04:49 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: seems legit at November 18, 2014 04:50 PM (A98Xu)
Chicago schools teaching "safe" anal sex to 5th graders
http://tinyurl.com/moal9v5
Posted by: The Hat that ain't into that... at November 18, 2014 04:50 PM (lN8KC)
Posted by: Bigby's Farm Hands at November 18, 2014 04:50 PM (3ZtZW)
How this differs from CA or Chicago or DC I have no idea, but the last lawsuit lost!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2014 04:45 PM (Zu3d9)
I think the judicial winds have now changed at the very top. I think perhaps lawsuits regarding the rights of Americans to own and carry guns will be more successful now.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:50 PM (txvbW)
http://tinyurl.com/moal9v5
Posted by: The Hat that ain't into that... at November 18, 2014 04:50 PM (lN8KC)
I don't see a problem.
Posted by: Harry Reid at November 18, 2014 04:51 PM (sDapq)
The idea being to keep them busy reauthorizing existing laws so as to preclude them from stirring up new trouble?
That's a real idea. Not to keep them busy, but to make them affirmatively say "yes, that's a good law and we want to keep it".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 04:51 PM (JtwS4)
My chaps are assless, your honor!
Posted by: All Hail Eris at November 18, 2014 04:47 PM (QBm1P)
Objection, assumes facts not in evidence. Only pics will overcome this objection, Your Honor.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 04:51 PM (V+kmg)
This is long time in coming.
Next should be something to protect us from being Face scanned without our permission or probably cause.
Right now in many places it is illegal to wear any kind of mask under certain conditions in certain places yet they proceeding rapidly to scan everyone into their database and actively track people.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:51 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:52 PM (upVqO)
Posted by: Havedash at November 18, 2014 04:46 PM (gvqyH)
You can pretty much bank on Pelosi as a perfect reverse barometer. If she doesn't like it, it's exactly what we need to do.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:52 PM (txvbW)
Hey dumb bitch... 95% of "black boys" are killed by other "Black Boys" you dope
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 04:52 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 18, 2014 04:47 PM (Z36SR)
I was sorta hopin' you would go with "oversized men's dress shirts" instead of "hotel bathrobes."
Bunk
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 04:53 PM (V+kmg)
YES!!!
Posted by: Guy from MicroMachines commercials at November 18, 2014 04:53 PM (YAVyP)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:52 PM (upVqO)
Don't be so hasty on that.
This is All Hail Eris we're talkin' about here.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 04:53 PM (V+kmg)
--
ABC News Weather @abcnewswx 5h
Local areas south of Buffalo, NY, are forecast to get 70 inches of snow through Wednesday evening, @NWSBUFFALO says.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 04:54 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: seems legit at November 18, 2014 04:54 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 18, 2014 04:54 PM (Z36SR)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 04:54 PM (upVqO)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 04:54 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: DEHOCO Guard at November 18, 2014 04:48 PM (/WmRg)
You know that's completely incoherent and contains two logic errors, right?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 04:55 PM (V+kmg)
That's 6 ft of global warming.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 04:54 PM (ZPrif)
Fixed.
Posted by: ManBearPig at November 18, 2014 04:55 PM (sDapq)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 04:54 PM (ZPrif)
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hahaha---Thanks for doing the math for us retards.
Posted by: seems legit at November 18, 2014 04:55 PM (A98Xu)
That'll just result in a ceremonial Omnibus Re-Authorization Law (ORAL) vote at the beginning of each Congress.
Posted by: Anachronda at November 18, 2014 04:55 PM (v3pYe)
It is possible that I will make a road soda so that bourbon is not a two hour wait for me.
Outta here in any case. And don't let me hear that any of you has put underwear on.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2014 04:56 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at November 18, 2014 04:56 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 04:55 PM (V+kmg)
Forget it, he's rolling.
Posted by: Boon at November 18, 2014 04:56 PM (sDapq)
Moxie Marlinspike who founded Open Whisper Systems.
Made up name or real?
Of course it IS SF so . .
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 04:57 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: seems legit at November 18, 2014 04:57 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 04:53 PM (V+kmg)
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I would never beat a chapped ass. That's just mean.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at November 18, 2014 04:58 PM (QBm1P)
Hey dumb bitch... 95% of "black boys" are killed by other "Black Boys" you dope
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2014 04:52 PM (nzKvP)
Dunno. I'm betting about 25% are killed by abortionists.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 04:59 PM (txvbW)
Posted by: seems legit at November 18, 2014 04:59 PM (A98Xu)
Fixt.
Posted by: Anachronda, internet pedant at November 18, 2014 05:00 PM (v3pYe)
Made up name or real?
Real.
--Clem Kadiddlehopper
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2014 05:00 PM (upVqO)
I knew we were in trouble after that "Beer Summit" for the cop and entitled professor.
That was only 5 months into this mishegas of a Presidency.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 05:01 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: mpfs at November 18, 2014 05:01 PM (SMXjC)
Posted by: seems legit at November 18, 2014 04:59 PM (A98Xu)
Maintain watch on the forethread!
Engines at all stop!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 05:01 PM (V+kmg)
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Agreed. "the cops acted stupidly" was an "oh shit" moment for me.
Posted by: seems legit at November 18, 2014 05:02 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Rev. Al at November 18, 2014 05:02 PM (sDapq)
It's getting stale isn't it?
Being last has almost the same frisson as being first.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 05:02 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 18, 2014 05:03 PM (V+kmg)
I knew we were in trouble after that "Beer Summit" for the cop and entitled professor.
That was only 5 months into this mishegas of a Presidency.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 05:01 PM (KK+mC)
Did you forget about Air Force One dive bombing New York City?
(It was like a day or so after the inauguration.)
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 05:03 PM (txvbW)
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And Shelia Jackson Lee must understand at least 2/3 of the words.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 18, 2014 05:04 PM (j6e8f)
At least you can still say, "But first you will blow me."
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 18, 2014 04:38 PM (+zjVj)
Only to male students.
Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2014 05:04 PM (zoehZ)
The Willow Award for Commenting as the Thread is Stomped is mine, mine all mine.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 05:04 PM (KK+mC)
http://tinyurl.com/nbotwjg
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2014 05:04 PM (RZlSA)
1960' sitcom?
My Three Sons of Bitches
President Barack Obama raises three sons of bitches with the help of Rat-faced Jarrett, and is later aided by the boys' great-uncle. An adopted son, a stepdaughter, wives, and another generation of sons of bitches join the loving Communist Party in later seasons.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at November 18, 2014 05:05 PM (OLsM7)
That is all.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at November 18, 2014 04:43 PM (QBm1P)
So it a gun thread with anal?
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2014 05:04 PM (RZlSA)
It is a horrible thing for a child to die before the parents.
I am sorry for him.
Posted by: D-Lamp at November 18, 2014 05:06 PM (txvbW)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 18, 2014 05:04 PM (j6e8f)
Er, I think you mean 3/5ths, proposed by Yankees to cheat Southerns I might add.
http://tinyurl.com/79gp2s5
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 18, 2014 05:11 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Baldy at November 18, 2014 05:24 PM (+35FH)
Her intellectual accomplishment would be there for all to see and hear.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 18, 2014 05:28 PM (KK+mC)
Posted by: TheDissentingVoice at November 18, 2014 05:42 PM (R2bzf)
So you see Gruber WAS an architect (I mean, except for the Vincent Price stuff, because he's dead), but that doesn't mean he DESIGNED anything, like Obamacare
Posted by: Mike Brady at November 18, 2014 05:46 PM (L+lAg)
And there's a reason why there's an "H" and an "A" in the word AssHole. These boys from the Banks of the River Charles (Harvard and MIT included) get off on yukking it up amongst themselves as to how they put one over on those "dumb#ucks" in the heartland.
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Posted by: Mistress Not Done yet at November 18, 2014 07:33 PM (2/oBD)
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